Steve Bannon Drops Milo - but Hangs With Holocaust Denier Chuck C. Johnson at the CA GOP Convention

“Dead to me”
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Palmer Luckey, Chuck C. Johnson and Steve Bannon pose with white power signs at the California GOP convention

Buzzfeed is reporting today that former White House “chief strategist” Stephen Bannon has decided he can no longer work with race-baiting creepazoid Milo Yiannopoulos, after the revelations of his connections to white supremacists and neo-Nazis emerged.

Breitbart News executive chairman Steve Bannon has told multiple people that he will never work with Milo Yiannopoulos again in the aftermath of a BuzzFeed News exposé linking Breitbart’s former tech editor to white nationalists, BuzzFeed News has learned.

Yiannopoulos, Bannon told at least one acquaintance, is “dead to me.”

But members of the Mercer family, Bannon’s and Yiannopoulos’s key, shared patrons and partners on the new right, have not signaled whether they will continue to bankroll the controversial culture warrior. Their decision may shed light on the extent to which the hedge fund billionaires are motivated by the raw ethnonationalist politics a cache of leaked documents related to Yiannopoulos and Breitbart revealed.

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BuzzFeed News’s story demonstrated that Breitbart, which the Mercers partly own, ran numerous stories that were conceived and coedited by white nationalists. The central figure in this effort was Yiannopoulos, who, the story revealed, once sang “America the Beautiful” in a karaoke bar as a crowd, including the white nationalist Richard Spencer, gave Nazi salutes.

According to half a dozen people in Bannon’s orbit, the story’s revelations were enough to push the brawling former White House chief strategist to disavow Yiannopoulos, telling those close to him that there will never be a place for him at Breitbart again. (Yiannopoulos resigned from the site in February 2017, after a video surfaced in which he appeared to condone pedophilia. After Bannon left the government in August, Yiannopoulos had told friends that he expected to be rehired.)

But before you conclude that Bannon had an actual attack of scruples, please note the photograph above, because it shows him posing with none other than Holocaust denier/white supremacist Chuck C. Johnson — arguably an even more blatantly hateful racist than Yiannopoulos. Johnson (who is NOT ME) has written articles for white supremacist sites, raised money for neo-Nazis, made numerous disgusting racist comments, and has been permanently banned from Twitter for these and other reasons. (He’s also a stalker, a Birther, a homophobe and a misogynist, by the way. He’s the full right wing package.)

In the photo, Chuck and his pal Palmer Luckey are displaying the now-familiar “ironic” white power hand sign that they like to pretend is just an innocuous “OK” symbol.

This picture was taken at the official California Republican Party Convention last night — in case you had any remaining doubt about where the Republican Party stands in 2017.

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319 comments

1
Citizen K  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:43:21pm

Chuck C. Johnson: The posterchild for the mediocre right-wing white male’s ability to fail upward in the US by hating PoCs hard enough.

2
HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:43:23pm

Aww poor Milo.// discarded like the right wing trash he is for a new model.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:46:07pm

Given a choice to apologise and acknowledge his vicious remarks against Rep. Wilson last week, after being pummelled all weekend and today by veterans across the nation on the BlueFalconKelly hashtag, John Kelly did the honourable thing.

BWAHAHAHA no he didn’t, he cowardly deleted his Twitter account.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:48:25pm
…has written articles for white supremacist sites, raised money for neo-Nazis, made numerous openly racist comments, and has been permanently banned from Twitter… (He’s also a stalker, a Birther, a homophobe and a misogynist, by the way. He’s the full right wing package.)

A one-man basket of deplorables.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:48:37pm

Palmer Luckey who’s very wealthy after taking Valve’s early VR technology and selling it to Facebook. His current project is selling VR to the military. He financed a shit-posting site during the election to help Trump.

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KGxvi  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:48:43pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Given a choice to apologise and acknowledge his vicious remarks against Rep. Wilson last week, after being pummelled all weekend and today by veterans across the nation on the BlueFalconKelly hashtag, John Kelly did the honourable thing.

BWAHAHAHA no he didn’t, he cowardly deleted his Twitter account.

In fairness, we’d all be better off if everyone deleted their twitter accounts.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:48:53pm

How much you want to bet that the yam isn’t paying one iota of attention to this Dunford presser?

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makeitstop  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:49:08pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

A one-man basket of deplorables.

Ain’t no basket big enough to hold that tub o’goo.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 1:50:19pm

re: #8 makeitstop

Ain’t no basket big enough to hold that tub o’goo.

At least he’d have something to poop in?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:02:11pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:04:06pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Aww poor Milo.// discarded like the right wing trash he is for a new model.

Bannon is shocked, SHOCKED, to find Nazi’s working for his racist website!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:04:33pm

The only thing that stops me from wanting to smack the rage furby is that I know he’s going to get himself in trouble all by himself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:09:43pm

BTW how is Ginger Snapped’s pal Daleiden and his attorneys? Did the Mercer’s cover their contempt fines????????

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:09:59pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

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Only 54%?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:11:35pm

Hashtag winning?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:16:37pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Hashtag winning?

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I’m so tired of winning.//

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:22:06pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Hashtag winning?

“If you’d just let me destroy Obamacare, everyone would have health insurance.” - Trump, soon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:24:26pm

Surprise inspection from the state health department on our village water system.

Good news, I’m not being carted off to jail (we passed).

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:25:52pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Surprise inspection from the state health department on our village water system.

Good news, I’m not being carted off to jail (we passed).

Well, that’s no good. How are you going to become governor if your water supply is clean? Oh, wait, that’s Michigan.

21
sizzzzlerz  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:26:29pm

California GOP, eh? What did they do with all the extra room in the closet the convention was held in?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:27:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:28:57pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

PRATT (point refuted a thousand times)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:30:16pm

Thursday will be the 50th anniversary of McCain’s capture and imprisonment as a POW, wonder how trump will celebrate tweet about that….

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Skip Intro  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:33:43pm

re: #21 sizzzzlerz

California GOP, eh? What did they do with all the extra room in the closet the convention was held in?

We have a lot of racists here in CA. They didn’t have any problem filling the room.

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:36:26pm

re: #18 Belafon

“If you’d just let me destroy Obamacare, everyone would have health insurance.” - Trump, soon.

i didnt kill it - it was already dying before i got here

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:36:54pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Surprise inspection from the state health department on our village water system.

Good news, I’m not being carted off to jail (we passed).

did he drink any of it?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:39:45pm
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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:40:55pm

Nerd alert: I’m going to recommend a book. Some of you undoubtedly have read it: V. S. Naipaul’s “The Suffrage of Elvira,” publ. 1958. It concerns a national legislature election in a poor and remote district (“Elvira”) in Trinidad in 1950. It was the second full-adult-suffrage democratic election in Trinidad’s history, the previous one having been in 1946. Elvira is majority Hindu with notable minorities of Muslims, blacks, and “Spanish” (apparently something like “Creoles” in the current Louisiana sense).

Besides being packed with humor and humanity in all its characters, the short novel is a microcosm of democracy in its childhood with all its flaws just becoming noticeable.

Here’s one quotation from a man who later accepts a bribe to run for the legislative seat only to split the Muslim and black votes to the benefit of the Hindu frontrunner: “What you say about 1946 is true. Nobody did spend much money. But that was only the fust election. People did just go and vote for the man they like. Now is different. People learning. You have to spend on them.”

Earlier, this man’s wife speaks what I can only see as a sad prophecy for our times: “”Everybody just washing their foot and jumping in this democracy business. But I promising you, for all the sweet it begin sweet, it going to end damn sour.”

Anyway, read it and weep.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:45:08pm

re: #27 dangerman

did he drink any of it?

LOL. I wouldn’t recommend drinking straight from the wells (1000% of the Federal maximum for arsenic, we don’t measure for old lace).

He did get a drink from the village hall RO unit though.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:45:17pm
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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:48:35pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

LOL. I wouldn’t recommend drinking straight from the wells (1000% of the Federal maximum for arsenic, we don’t measure for old lace).

He did get a drink from the village hall RO unit though.

fair enough that he didnt stick to his own brought in bottle ;-)

and +1 for old lace

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:48:49pm

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:51:01pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

[Embedded content]Elon Musk says Tesla’s artificial intelligence will let cars predict your destination

i was going to the church next to it, not the video store….

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garzooma  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:51:19pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

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Actually, that was a fairly solid burn from Paul.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:51:48pm

Party over country:

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:52:05pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

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Uhhh… If the car is deciding where to drive, it can predict your destination with 100% accuracy.

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A Cranky One  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:52:11pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

LOL. I wouldn’t recommend drinking straight from the wells (1000% of the Federal maximum for arsenic, we don’t measure for old lace).

He did get a drink from the village hall RO unit though.

Not the elderberry wine I hope.

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:52:52pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

Elon Musk says Tesla’s artificial intelligence will let cars predict your destination

Oh, fuck, not this shit again. I’m still celebrating Microsoft getting rid of the damn paperclip in Word.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:54:32pm

re: #39 whitebeach

Oh, fuck, not this shit again. I’m still celebrating Microsoft getting rid of the damn paperclip in Word.

A Tesla would just have to throw up its hands (tires?) around here… .

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:55:19pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹

A Tesla would just have to throw up its hands (tires?) around here… .

The cars will learn from your driving, not just maps.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 2:56:22pm

re: #39 whitebeach

Oh, fuck, not this shit again. I’m still celebrating Microsoft getting rid of the damn paperclip in Word.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:01:30pm

re: #41 Belafon

The cars will learn from your driving, not just maps.

“No dear, I have no idea why my car keeps driving itself to the strip club”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:02:20pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

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Now just imagine advertising subverting the software. You want to go to Wendy’s and find yourself diverted to McDonalds…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:03:15pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

I never understood what the purpose of that paperclip was.

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:03:19pm

re: #39 whitebeach

Elon Musk says Tesla’s artificial intelligence will let cars predict your destination

What, like relying on Siri (or any navsys) not just to find your route, but take you there?

“We have arrived at our destination”
“No, Tessie: this is 184 Grand Street”
“Yes. 184 Grant Street”
“No, Tessie: Grant Street. G-R-A-N-T”
I’m sorry, Jay: I don’t have a listing for ‘Jiarentee Street”. Are you sure you wouldn’t rather be here??”

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:03:30pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

“I have no idea whose house this is.”

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calochortus  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:03:44pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

I never understood what the purpose of that paperclip was.

Annoying people, apparently.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:04:42pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

“No dear, I have no idea why my car keeps driving itself to the strip club”

“No, I don’t know why it keeps cruising the hooker district at night… .”

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:05:53pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

I never understood what the purpose of that paperclip was.

It was to gradually drive us insane and enslave us: “It looks like you want to write a check to the Republican National Committee.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:08:07pm

re: #50 whitebeach

It was to gradually drive us insane and enslave us: “It looks like you want to write a check to the Republican National Committee.”

So Elon Musk wants to put the Microsoft paperclip in his cars?

I think I’ll stick to driving dumb cars. How long before someone figures out how to hijack his AI and drive your car off a bluff, or into the ocean?

(I never understood why a toaster or my thermostat needed to be connected to the Internet either.)

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:08:24pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

I never understood what the purpose of that paperclip was.

Paperclip for a helpful hint
Lightbulb for an idea . .

???

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:10:51pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

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How did you know my sin? Heath Blizzard, that’s it! As of today, no longer allowed on my diet. (very sad face!)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:12:02pm
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calochortus  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:12:07pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

So Elon Musk wants to put the Microsoft paperclip in his cars?

I think I’ll stick to driving dumb cars. How long before someone figures out how to hijack his AI and drive your car off a bluff, or into the ocean?

(I never understood why a toaster or my thermostat needed to be connected to the Internet either.)

I think a lot of cars can be hacked already. However, I can’t figure out why my household appliances need to be involved in “the internet of things” either. Since I don’t have a smart phone I can’t have a meaningful conversation with my refrigerator from afar.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:12:36pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Hashtag winning?

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If it wasn’t for a fortunate set of circumstances, I’d be one of the millions getting screwed by Cheeto Benito. My old job had no benefits to speak of because our boss is the very model of a “successful businessman” today (fucking cheapskate who sees employees as disposable), which is why I had to get a plan through the Exchange that Anthem is now putting the kibosh on because El Grande Fuckwit’s efforts to sabotage the ACA have chased them out. But thankfully, my new job is for a corporate hotel which includes health insurance as part of the benefits package that kicks in after your 90-day probationary period.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:12:58pm
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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:19:01pm

Riverboy-Thanks for taking the time to post a response in the last thread.

I think you are correct and will henceforth be using your wording.

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:21:11pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

So Elon Musk wants to put the Microsoft paperclip in his cars?

I think I’ll stick to driving dumb cars. How long before someone figures out how to hijack his AI and drive your car off a bluff, or into the ocean?

(I never understood why a toaster or my thermostat needed to be connected to the Internet either.)

I know: when I hear about plans to “smarten” up machinery and appliances, I always think of Talkie Toaster.

And AI cars usually remind me of the scene in S2E1 of Extant: Goran Visnjic’s character is murdered by The Sinister Government Conspiracy when they hack the controls on his “autonomous” taxi: and then stall it on a train track just in front of a speeding train.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:21:13pm

re: #46 Jay C

Elon Musk says Tesla’s artificial intelligence will let cars predict your destination

What, like relying on Siri (or any navsys) not just to find your route, but take you there?

“We have arrived at our destination”
“No, Tessie: this is 184 Grand Street”
“Yes. 184 Grant Street”
“No, Tessie: Grant Street. G-R-A-N-T”
I’m sorry, Jay: I don’t have a listing for ‘Jiarentee Street”. Are you sure you wouldn’t rather be here??”

I HATE GPS or just about any other machine that talks. Alarm clocks, washers and drivers with beeps.

Perhaps it’s just a sign of a defiant personality. No one likes being told what to do, and i will not be told what to do by a machine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:21:19pm

re: #55 calochortus

I think a lot of cars can be hacked already. However, I can’t figure out why my household appliances need to be involved in “the internet of things” either. Since I don’t have a smart phone I can’t have a meaningful conversation with my refrigerator from afar.

I can’t have a meaningful conversation with my refrigerator in person. Why would I want to talk to it over the Internet?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:21:49pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t have a meaningful conversation with my refrigerator in person. Why would I want to talk to it over the Internet?

exactly!

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:22:21pm

I can see how a business would benefit from “smart” appliances for inventory control, but my house?

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Cheechako  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:22:51pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

So Elon Musk wants to put the Microsoft paperclip in his cars?

I think I’ll stick to driving dumb cars. How long before someone figures out how to hijack his AI and drive your car off a bluff, or into the ocean?

(I never understood why a toaster or my thermostat needed to be connected to the Internet either.)

I thought you drove Smart cars. Why the change?

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calochortus  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:24:10pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t have a meaningful conversation with my refrigerator in person. Why would I want to talk to it over the Internet?

I did once thank a timer that rang. In my defense, I was reading and was very distracted. Fortunately, I was not so distracted that I neglected to remove the item in the oven that was ready to come out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:24:51pm

re: #63 Birth Control Works

I can see how a business would benefit from “smart” appliances for inventory control, but my house?

“BCW, I see you are low on eggs. Would you like a coupon for 50¢ off a dozen “Brand X Eggs?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:25:34pm

re: #64 Cheechako

I thought you drove Smart cars. Why the change?

LOL. I have a dumb Smart car. It’s on the left-hand side of the bell curve of Smart car intelligence.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:27:19pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

“BCW, I see you are low on eggs. Would you like a coupon for 50¢ off a dozen “Brand X Eggs?”

“Fu&^-off!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:28:31pm

re: #68 Birth Control Works

“Fu&^-off!”

“Would you like a $10 coupon for Adam & Eve products?”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:28:53pm

I have the dumbest van I could buy a couple of years ago. I have to push a button to start it, and I don’t have a computer screen instead of knobs and buttons.

Apparently, my particular model is in great demand. I got a recorded message from the Dealer offering me a great deal if I would sell it back to them.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:29:19pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

“Would you like a $10 coupon for Adam & Eve products?”

“How about a geek who will unplug you?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:30:32pm

re: #71 Birth Control Works

“How about a geek who will unplug you?”

“I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:31:59pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

“I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

“My name is not Dave.”

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:32:43pm

Annual cardiologist exam today. It’s a game you won’t win in the long run, but sometimes you can get in a shot or two:

Cardio (a good guy, BTW): Let’s see, I think your previous cardiologist did a heart catheter, right?

Me: Huh? No, my previous cardiologist, well, I think he’s passed on, now. The one before him, he retired but I don’t know if he’s still alive. I think you’re talking about four cardiologists ago, a young guy from St. Croix working at the University of Texas Teaching Hospital in Tyler. He did the catheter. Held my interest, watching on the monitor. Came out fine.

Cardio: Huh.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:32:50pm

Anyone who has crank-started a truck, please raise your good arm.

(Raises left).

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:34:19pm
I cannot believe how soothing I’m finding this video of a German man in full Medieval costume explaining how people used to walk in the Middle Ages, before the advent of fixed-sole shoes.

Historical Body Mechanics: Walk Medieval!

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:34:43pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

re: #71 Birth Control Works

“How about a geek who will unplug you?”

“I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

“Dave’s not here, man!!!”

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:35:07pm

re: #73 Birth Control Works

“My name is not Dave.”

“Dave’s not here!” It used to seem funnier.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:35:50pm

re: #73 Birth Control Works

“My name is not Dave.”

“Dave’s not here, man.”

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:36:03pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Anyone who has crank-started a truck, please raise your good arm.

(Raises left).

Anyone who has kick-started a Harley on a winter morning in Wisconsin, please hop to the microphone.

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Cheechako  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:36:14pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Anyone who has crank-started a truck, please raise your good arm.

(Raises left).

Raises hand. Had a college roommate who had a “52 MGB. Right hand drive with hand crank starting. Very easy to start (when it was warmed up)!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:36:30pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Given a choice to apologise and acknowledge his vicious remarks against Rep. Wilson last week, after being pummelled all weekend and today by veterans across the nation on the BlueFalconKelly hashtag, John Kelly did the honourable thing.

BWAHAHAHA no he didn’t, he cowardly deleted his Twitter account.

The twitter account was fake anyway.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:36:48pm

republicanz iz weeird

In three years, Trump will pull out of NAFTA. You’ll have nominated either Booker or Cuomo, and that nominee will be pressured to say something favorable about NAFTA

yeah?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:38:02pm

The real secret to the iOT is that companies can gather all kinds of data about what you consume and how you consume it and use that to sell you more stuff.

That’s all it is, Big Data using cool stuff to lure you in so they can then monitor you 24/7.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:38:46pm

re: #83 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

republicanz iz weeird

In three years, Trump will pull out of NAFTA. You’ll have nominated either Booker or Cuomo, and that nominee will be pressured to say something favorable about NAFTA

yeah?

Talking to a “serious” wingnut on another board who is sure the DNC will get slammed next year for “embracing Obamacare, illegal immigration, and against tax cuts.”

*sigh*

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:40:06pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

Talking to a “serious” wingnut on another board who is sure the DNC will get slammed next year for “embracing Obamacare, illegal immigration, and against tax cuts.”

*sigh*

Well, one of the abilities of exercising the franchise in a democratic republic is you have the ability to vote away democracy.

It’s a little tougher getting it back though.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:40:28pm

I turned on MSNBC to get ready for Ari Melber’s show and MTP Daily with Steve Kornacki had John Podhoretz talking about Bannon. I didn’t catch it all, but he made mention that many Republicans are basically asking Bannon what they need to do and say to keep Big Steve happy and call off the dogs on them.

Big leaders in that party I tell you. Such individuals.

Do we need anymore evidence they are in it for the money and title because they are admitting they can be directed by whoever has the power? It sure isn’t any of them. They are powerless in the onslaught of Trump and Bannon.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:41:24pm

re: #81 Cheechako

Raises hand. Had a college roommate who had a “52 MGB. Right hand drive with hand crank starting. Very easy to start (when it was warmed up)!

Did my 2200 cc. Land Rover once, experimentally. Thought of driving it to the ER parking lot first, just to be cautious.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:42:22pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

“Would you like a $10 coupon for Adam & Eve products?”

I’ll just count at you.

1, 2, 3…

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Cheechako  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:43:43pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Did my 2200 cc. Land Rover once, experimentally. Thought of driving it to the ER parking lot first, just to be cautious.

That little MGB had such poor compression it was very easy to spin by hand.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:44:22pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

“Dave’s not here, man.”

“There is no Dave in this house!!!”

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:45:42pm

re: #74 whitebeach

Annual cardiologist exam today. It’s a game you won’t win in the long run, but sometimes you can get in a shot or two:

Cardio (a good guy, BTW): Let’s see, I think your previous cardiologist did a heart catheter, right?

Me: Huh? No, my previous cardiologist, well, I think he’s passed on, now. The one before him, he retired but I don’t know if he’s still alive. I think you’re talking about four cardiologists ago, a young guy from St. Croix working at the University of Texas Teaching Hospital in Tyler. He did the catheter. Held my interest, watching on the monitor. Came out fine.

Cardio: Huh.

May you outlive the rest of them.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:46:20pm

re: #46 Jay C

Elon Musk says Tesla’s artificial intelligence will let cars predict your destination

What, like relying on Siri (or any navsys) not just to find your route, but take you there?

“We have arrived at our destination”
“No, Tessie: this is 184 Grand Street”
“Yes. 184 Grant Street”
“No, Tessie: Grant Street. G-R-A-N-T”
I’m sorry, Jay: I don’t have a listing for ‘Jiarentee Street”. Are you sure you wouldn’t rather be here??”

I think it would be more like: It’s 8:30 in the morning on Friday. “We” always go to McDonalds on Oak Street to get a McMuffin on Fridays…so that is where Tesla is taking you even though you may have decided to change your mind and go to Tim Horton’s on Main St.

A friend and I were talking about all the new gizmos on modern cars. Things like stay-in-your-lane warning, emergency stopping if someone gets in front of the car and automatic parking. Add in Tesla and AI…are we asking for drunks to get behind the wheel and count on their cars to take them home relying on all the gizmos to get you there without looking like a drunk to the police?

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KGxvi  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:46:27pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

“What the hell am I doing in the Diary Queen drive-thru again?
Medium Heath Blizzard please.”

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Nope. Hard pass.

I generally love technology, but I am not interested in self driving cars, I am especially not interested in self driving cars with artificial intelligence that will try and figure out where I want to go.

Because, here’s the thing… I actually really enjoy driving. I don’t like sitting in traffic, but actually driving? Shifting gears and passing people, windows down along the coast, music playing… gimme that stuff, straight into my veins.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:49:54pm

re: #94 KGxvi

Nope. Hard pass.

I generally love technology, but I am not interested in self driving cars, I am especially not interested in self driving cars with artificial intelligence that will try and figure out where I want to go.

Because, here’s the thing… I actually really enjoy driving. I don’t like sitting in traffic, but actually driving? Shifting gears and passing people, windows down along the coast, music playing… gimme that stuff, straight into my veins.

I’d be interested in button that produced a car and chauffeur

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:50:00pm

re: #46 Jay C

Elon Musk says Tesla’s artificial intelligence will let cars predict your destination

What, like relying on Siri (or any navsys) not just to find your route, but take you there?

“We have arrived at our destination”
“No, Tessie: this is 184 Grand Street”
“Yes. 184 Grant Street”
“No, Tessie: Grant Street. G-R-A-N-T”
I’m sorry, Jay: I don’t have a listing for ‘Jiarentee Street”. Are you sure you wouldn’t rather be here??”

personally, i refuse to speak to siri

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:50:12pm

re: #94 KGxvi

I don’t like sitting in traffic, but actually driving? Shifting gears and passing people, windows down along the coast, music playing… gimme that stuff, straight into my veins.

Anything else is, in the immortal words of Barry Goldwater in another connection, “just plain un-American.”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:50:22pm

re: #96 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

personally, i refuse to speak to siri

I don’t even enable her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:50:28pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

BWAHAHAHAAA!

Louise thinks the Comey twitter account is fake while at the same time believing the General Kelly account to be the real thing.

Louise is such an eejit.

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stpaulbear  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:51:12pm

The New Yorker has a fairly sickening long read about the family that got stinking rich off of Oxycontin. I hope this story goes viral.

the family that built an empire of pain

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:51:35pm

re: #97 whitebeach

Anything else is, in the immortal words of Barry Goldwater in another connection, “just plain un-American.”

The Eisenhower Expressway into the City from the Far Western Suburbs in Chicago.

I had a girlfriend that made it in 22 minutes once —in rush hour traffic.

I was the passenger.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:52:52pm

My money detector is working. Two guys brought in a wheel that the other shop couldn’t fix or replace, I found a bike that had the wheel they needed, and I sold them the whole bike. For more than twice what I had paid for it.

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KGxvi  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:53:39pm

re: #101 Birth Control Works

The Eisenhower Expressway into the City from the Far Western Suburbs in Chicago.

I had a girlfriend that made it in 22 minutes once —in rush hour traffic.

I was the passenger.

Orange County California to the Las Vegas Strip, approximately 250 miles, personal best is just over 3 hours.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:55:16pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:56:00pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:58:21pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:59:15pm
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Dizzy  Oct 23, 2017 • 3:59:50pm

re: #46 Jay C

Reminds me of this

YouTube

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:01:33pm

We’re back from a visit to Florida Man and Woman, only two incidents of note:

1) Overheard two huge guys, one Black, one White in a McD’s at the FL-GA border. Both were rigged out in Harley gear, dewrags, etc.

“I’m sure at the last meeting, the congregation didn’t get the drift of your message. They need someone with your sense of vision.”

2) We call Rt 19 down the Gulf coast “The BBQ Trail” Last year we skipped our favorite place because they had a marquee sign in the parking lot: “Closed for Renovation”. This year, same place, same sign, but there were a few cars, so we checked it out. There were a couple locals eating, so we went in as usual—no renovations. Wife said: “They haven’t even dusted the deer’s antlers.” At the checkout I asked the girl if that was their sign in the lot. We had almost skipped the place.

Cashier: “Yeah, we’re down to one waitress, and if we don’t put the sign out we get swamped.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:02:48pm

re: #94 KGxvi

Nope. Hard pass.

I generally love technology, but I am not interested in self driving cars, I am especially not interested in self driving cars with artificial intelligence that will try and figure out where I want to go.

Because, here’s the thing… I actually really enjoy driving. I don’t like sitting in traffic, but actually driving? Shifting gears and passing people, windows down along the coast, music playing… gimme that stuff, straight into my veins.

I know where you are coming from. I don’t do it so much anymore, but when I was working insane hours a few years back to relax I would take one of my VWs (had two at the time) out for a run on the great triple digit state routes that run through Ohio’s hilly Appalachia country. Nice thing about Ohio is the hills are not too big so no switchback type turns. It is up and down, left and right, some places nothing but turn after turn with very little straightaway. I know just about every Ohio roller coaster road. My favorites are around the Hocking Hills area and around Coshocton Ohio. Give me those rolling turns. I love it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:09:47pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Wow, that number 2 is all kinds of fail.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:12:10pm
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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:13:07pm

re: #111 ObserverArt

I used to love to drive.

Now, it hurts to be in a vehicle that is moving.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:13:59pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart

Bill Browder ✔ @Billbrowder
GREAT NEWS! My ESTA (US visa waiver) was restored. I successfully checked into a US flight. Now we need to fix bogus Interpol arrest warrant
5:44 PM - Oct 23, 2017
252 252 Replies 1,003 1,003 Retweets 3,065 3,065 likes

McCain tweeted earlier today about the revocation of the visa. I wonder if his intervention helped restore the visa.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:14:27pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, that number 2 is all kinds of fail.

I’m guessing they spit one pig per day, and the locals scarf it. She said she was glad we stopped by, though. That part of the Big Bend is notorious drug country—It’s possible no job applicant can pass a piss test.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:14:50pm

Bill O’Reilly: The Politically-Motivated Revelation Of My $32M Sex Settlement Is A Horror Show For My Family (goes to Joe My God), more at the link:

The Associated Press reports:

Bill O’Reilly says he’s being attacked for political purposes and that it’s been a “horror show” for him and his family. The former Fox News Channel host was interviewed by one-time colleague Glenn Beck on this weekend’s story in The New York Times that Fox paid a $32 million settlement to a former legal analyst who had accused O’Reilly of harassment.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:15:26pm

re: #111 ObserverArt

I know where you are coming from. I don’t do it so much anymore, but when I was working insane hours a few years back to relax I would take one of my VWs (had two at the time) out for a run on the great triple digit state routes that run through Ohio’s hilly Appalachia country. Nice thing about Ohio is the hills are not too big so no switchback type turns. It is up and down, left and right, some places nothing but turn after turn with very little straightaway. I know just about every Ohio roller coaster road. My favorites are around the Hocking Hills area and around Coshocton Ohio. Give me those rolling turns. I love it.

I have the great big brown boat in the garage, which is completely the opposite experience. Doesn’t matter if the hills are rolling or the turns are sweeping - I’m driving a 5000 lb couch down the freeway. You don’t feel a damn thing behind the wheel of that car.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:15:49pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, that number 2 is all kinds of fail.

I wonder why the restaurant can’t get another waitress? Not paying enough?

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calochortus  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:18:11pm

I can’t wait for self driving cars. I don’t particularly enjoy driving, but more than that, with Mr. C. and I being in our 60s I know there will come a point where we can’t drive any more. Then we will have to move. I don’t want to have to move.

edit: we will still drive for the foreseeable future, but eventually…

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:18:43pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

Bill O’Reilly: The Politically-Motivated Revelation Of My $32M Sex Settlement Is A Horror Show For My Family (goes to Joe My God), more at the link:

because when he does it, it’s not a crime?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:19:20pm

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

I wonder why the restaurant can’t get another waitress? Not paying enough?

Hey. You want to run a pit? Move to Perry, FL.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:19:21pm

It’s being explained as: there is a statue of the fictional boxer in Philadelphia, the exiled cleric lives in Pennsylvania, therefore he must have had something to do with this.

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:20:26pm

Grammar Nazis

Downfall of Grammar

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:20:36pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

Bill O’Reilly: The Politically-Motivated Revelation Of My $32M Sex Settlement Is A Horror Show For My Family (goes to Joe My God), more at the link:

Murderer complains about how revelations about his act of murder are hurting his family.

/////

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:21:00pm

Hubby and I just watched a movie with Stallone in it. Recent. He is still in good shape.

OK movie. He was a hitman.

I don’t rememer much more.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:21:05pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

Hey. You want to run a pit? Move to Perry, FL.

I’ve been to Perry, though it’s been a long time (in the mid Eighties).

I don’t know the first thing about running a restaurant. I was just taking a shot in the dark at the restaurant’s problems with its lack of waitstaff.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:21:39pm

re: #124 gocart mozart

Grammar Nazis

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grammar like language evolves.

I am still upset about the 2 paces after a period, but it is what it is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:22:35pm

re: #126 Birth Control Works

Hubby and I just watched a movie with Stallone in it. Recent. He is still in good shape.

OK movie. He was a hitman.

I don’t rememer much more.

I think his best role was in “Deathrace 2000” but I have a low standard for entertainment with movies… .

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:22:58pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been to Perry, though it’s been a long time (in the mid Eighties).

I don’t know the first thing about running a restaurant. I was just taking a shot in the dark at the restaurant’s problems with its lack of waitstaff.

Before we define it as a problem, we have to determine their purpose in running the BBQ. It’s Florida, NORTH Florida.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:23:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:23:11pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:23:27pm

re: #118 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have the great big brown boat in the garage, which is completely the opposite experience. Doesn’t matter if the hills are rolling or the turns are sweeping - I’m driving a 5000 lb couch down the freeway. You don’t feel a damn thing behind the wheel of that car.

You know your cars. The couch is a give-a-way. I hated those big American cars of the late 60s through the mid 80s. I drove a big ol’ Buick one time (boss’ car) and it was like driving a cotton ball. I had no idea where the wheels were until it moved and I could gauge the direction it was wanting to go. Yuck.

Another boss got to ride in one of my old much-tuned VW Rabbits and he complained he was riding in a damn buckboard wagon. That car was a bit too much for the daily streets, but I did like it for the spirited drives. You could drive over a quarter and know the year it was cast.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:25:58pm

re: #131 Birth Control Works

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So O’Reilly complains that the $32 million revelation is to hurt him getting a new job, then jams a dagger right in his old company’s back by revealing they’ve paid out way more money to way more accusers. And does not in any way see how this might be related.

FFS.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:27:28pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:27:59pm

re: #133 ObserverArt

You know your cars. The couch is a give-a-way. I hated those big American cars of the late 60s through the mid 80s. I drove a big ol’ Buick one time (boss’ car) and it was like driving a cotton ball. I had no idea where the wheels were until it moved and I could gauge the direction it was wanting to go. Yuck.

Another boss got to ride in one of my old much-tuned VW Rabbits and he complained he was riding in a damn buckboard wagon. That car was a bit too much for the daily streets, but I did like it for the spirited drives. You could drive over a quarter and know the year it was cast.

That’s kind of like how my current daily driver is. It’s a little sport hatch (well, the sedan version of a sport hatch), basically equivalent to a VW Jetta. I drive the big Lincoln to take a break from the intensity of driving that little thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:28:51pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Anyone who has crank-started a truck, please raise your good arm.

(Raises left).

not only a truck, but also a tractor (tractor had a tiller instead of a steering wheel, also, too!)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:28:52pm

Back on the Internet of Things:

If everything in my house from my oven to my thermostat to my furnace was connected to the IoT, would that mean none of it would work the 15% of the time my Internet service is out?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:28:53pm

Why Smartphones Will Become Extinct by 2025

I’m predicting that, by 2025, voicebots will become so prevalent, so powerful, and so useful in all areas of business and our personal lives that we won’t need smartphones anymore.

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KGxvi  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:28:53pm

Anyone have Hulu Live TV?

They apparently figured out that there was a glitch in their system and that they hadn’t been charging me for their regular system for about a year or so. I figure it’s time to upgrade, but wondering if I should go with Hulu or Sling.

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KGxvi  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:30:27pm

re: #140 Birth Control Works

So, how good are voicebots at letting you read things? Or watch videos? Or view/post photos?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:30:44pm

re: #136 Birth Control Works

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Classy.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:30:44pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Back on the Internet of Things:

If everything in my house from my oven to my thermostat to my furnace was connected to the IoT, would that mean none of it would work the 15% of the time my Internet service is out?

Everything would still work locally, you just wouldn’t be able to access it remotely.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:30:58pm

re: #140 Birth Control Works

Why Smartphones Will Become Extinct by 2025
I’m predicting that, by 2025, voicebots will become so prevalent, so powerful, and so useful in all areas of business and our personal lives that we won’t need smartphones people anymore.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:31:15pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

not only a truck, but also a tractor (tractor had a tiller instead of a steering wheel, also, too!)

Hand-started a tractor by using the flywheel. My dad collects John Deeres and I’m well-versed in pull-starting, hill-starting, and hand-starting.

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:31:22pm

re: #137 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s kind of like how my current daily driver is. It’s a little sport hatch (well, the sedan version of a sport hatch), basically equivalent to a VW Jetta. I drive the big Lincoln to take a break from the intensity of driving that little thing.

Mazda 3 by any chance?

I love that class of car. I love hatchbacks too. I’m stuck on VWs. No diesels though. I can get some 8’ lumber into that hatch and get it home like a little wagon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:31:28pm

re: #140 Birth Control Works

Why Smartphones Will Become Extinct by 2025

That’s about the time we’ll get touch-tone telephones here.

We’re moving up since we did get 911 service in 2012.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:31:45pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

not only a truck, but also a tractor (tractor had a tiller instead of a steering wheel, also, too!)

Bicycles have cranks. I crank-start my bicycle every time! But not by hand. That would be a trick.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:32:33pm

How Far Must Trump ‘Unravel’ Before the 25th Amendment Kicks In?

Foreign Policy Mag (usually has a firewall). I thought the headline was worth sharing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:33:04pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

Mazda 3 by any chance?

I love that class of car. I love hatchbacks too. I’m stuck on VWs. No diesels though. I can get some 8’ lumber into that hatch and get it home like a little wagon.

Chevy Sonic. I’m a GM guy. I liked the VW I had, actually wanted to buy a Jetta (TDI was my first choice), but when the sales lady completely went cold after I asked to see a gas-powered model for comparison, I basically said, “Screw it.”

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:34:36pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

That’s about the time we’ll get touch-tone telephones here.

We’re moving up since we did get 911 service in 2012.

you are in Cincinnati?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:36:04pm

First, let’s start with the recondite quote. You know, this one:

“When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it’s always 20 years behind the times.”

No one knows for sure if Twain said it, but quoteinvestigator.com, a website that does what its URL implies and has been referenced dozens of times in media reports, seems to land on the side of ‘no.’

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mmmirele  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:36:04pm

re: #140 Birth Control Works

I only talk to my phone when there is nobody else in the office. Otherwise I type in commands/text with my one finger.

That’s one thing these guys don’t consider—when multiple people are in the same place talking to their smart bots, the smart bots are likely to get confused. Plus some of us don’t want our searches played out in front of our families, coworkers, etc.

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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:36:05pm

re: #80 whitebeach

Anyone who has kick-started a Harley on a winter morning in Wisconsin, please hop to the microphone.

Never a Harley but a 750cc Triumph can be entertaining. Especially if you’re intoxicated enough to forget to ensure you’re not in gear…

Oh, of course not me, that was a friend of mine…. < whistles innocently >

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:36:26pm

re: #150 Birth Control Works

How Far Must Trump ‘Unravel’ Before the 25th Amendment Kicks In?

Foreign Policy Mag (usually has a firewall). I thought the headline was worth sharing.

The final two paragraphs of that are the most noteworthy to me:

Each citizen should draw his or her own conclusion about presidential disability. But make no mistake: Invoking Section 4 would have a dramatic and potentially dangerous effect on our politics. Even if meticulously executed, the process is fraught with political pitfalls that could further undermine divisions among the public and legitimacy in U.S. institutions.

So, although [Steve] Bannon might have been right that the 25th Amendment could pose a real threat to the Trump presidency, it should give the president’s political opponents little, if any, solace.

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freetoken  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:37:47pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

25A is like playing with gasoline near an open fire.

You better be ready for unintended consequences.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:38:10pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

The final two paragraphs of that are the most noteworthy to me:

Reagan’s Alzheimers didn’t seem to be a problem …

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:38:11pm

re: #155 William Lewis

Never a Harley but a 750cc Triumph can be entertaining. Especially if you’re intoxicated enough to forget to ensure you’re not in gear…

Oh, of course not me, that was a friend of mine…. < whistles innocently >

Been kickstarting the 500 thumper for 35 years—it has no infernal “starter” contraption.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:39:34pm

re: #158 Birth Control Works

Reagan’s Alzheimers didn’t seem to be a problem …

The government didn’t invoke the XXV Amendment either.

(He invoked it on himself when he was about to go into surgery after the assassination attempt on him, but that was a prudent decision on Mr. Reagan’s part.)

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freetoken  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:39:54pm

The real answer to Trump is to make sure the GOP loses the House in 2018, and then force impeachments (of not just Trump but many of his cronies.)

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:40:04pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Chevy Sonic. I’m a GM guy. I liked the VW I had, actually wanted to buy a Jetta (TDI was my first choice), but when the sales lady completely went cold after I asked to see a gas-powered model for comparison, I basically said, “Screw it.”

Has the Sonic been a good value for you and are you happy with it?

I know a guy that was involved with Red Bull Global Rallycross racing and he was trying to run a Sonic hatchback. I don’t know if he still drives or not. Not a cheap sport and he was having trouble getting sponsors.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:41:14pm

re: #161 freetoken

The real answer to Trump is to make sure the GOP loses the House in 2018, and then force impeachments (of not just Trump but many of his cronies.)

Trump has not yet fulfilled his earthly purpose—discrediting the GOP beyond recovery.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:42:19pm

Hilarity ensues on this thread:

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:42:20pm

re: #28 GlutenFreeJesus

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So once again Conservatives are embracing their sexual predators (O’Reilly, Trump) while Liberals unanimously condemn Weinstein.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:42:55pm

re: #162 ObserverArt

Has the Sonic been a good value for you and are you happy with it?

I know a guy that was involved with Red Bull Global Rallycross racing and he was trying to run a Sonic hatchback. I don’t know if he still drives or not. Not a cheap sport and he was having trouble getting sponsors.

The Sonic has been a fantastic car for me driving-wise, aside from winter performance. The only complaint I have is that the computer systems are apparently very glitchy; there was a programming issue with the heated seats when I bought it, and now the steering wheel radio controls don’t work because of a known issue with the radio computer programming. Since it’s no longer under warranty, I’m not sure I want to know how much they’ll charge me just to fix the steering wheel controls.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:44:11pm

Top story on Reddit

reddit.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:44:39pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Sonic has been a fantastic car for me driving-wise, aside from winter performance. The only complaint I have is that the computer systems are apparently very glitchy; there was a programming issue with the heated seats when I bought it, and now the steering wheel radio controls don’t work because of a known issue with the radio computer programming. Since it’s no longer under warranty, I’m not sure I want to know how much they’ll charge me just to fix the steering wheel controls.

The seats in my 73 Rover are heated, too. Only the left gas tank shields the driver from the exhaust pipe run.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:45:40pm

re: #162 ObserverArt

I think the Sonic, the Cruze, and the Camaro are the only models available from Chevy with stick shifts. It’s why we have a red Cruze.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:45:51pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

The seats in my 73 Rover are heated, too. Only the left gas tank shields the driver from the exhaust pipe run.

The 79 radiates heat from the steering column onto my legs when the engine is fully warmed up. I think it’s actually a similar concept, as the steering column runs right over the manifold in the byzantine nightmare of the engine compartment.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:46:11pm

re: #169 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I think the Sonic, the Cruze, and the Camero are the only models available from Chevy with stick shifts. It’s why we have a red Cruze.

I wanted a stick, but Mrs. Fish can’t drive one.

[Sulk.]

Edit: The Corvette also has a manual option.

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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:48:08pm

re: #101 Birth Control Works

The Eisenhower Expressway into the City from the Far Western Suburbs in Chicago.

I had a girlfriend that made it in 22 minutes once —in rush hour traffic.

I was the passenger.

Downtown Minneapolis at a record store with a friend (Oar Folkjokeopus?) and he suddenly realized he had a radio show in an hour. In Eau Claire. About 90 miles at 4:00 in the afternoon.

He’s lucky(?) I was driving my mother’s 76 Trans Am. The one with the BIG firebird decal overtop of a 7.5 Liter V8 with 4 barrel carb. We were never doing less than three digits once I hit the first on ramp & we made it to Eau Claire with 1 minute to spare before his show. I was home on leave from the Army, there was nothing I was scared of & Mike (my friend) probably still remembers that drive as one long “ohshitohshitohshitohshit” moment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:48:16pm

re: #171 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I wanted a stick, but Mrs. Fish can’t drive one.

[Sulk.]

Edit: The Corvette also has a manual option.

I wanted a manual Smart, but you apparently can’t get one in the USA. (They are very popular in Europe.) The best you can do here is the slapstick automatic transmission I have in mine.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:48:48pm
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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:49:05pm

re: #155 William Lewis

Never a Harley but a 750cc Triumph can be entertaining. Especially if you’re intoxicated enough to forget to ensure you’re not in gear…

“One a these days, Alice. Bang, zoom. Off to the moon.”

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:50:56pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

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Seriously, the excuse now is “Trump is a moron”? A bit unconventional, but I’m willing to see where this goes…

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:51:12pm

re: #175 whitebeach

“One a these days, Alice. Bang, zoom. Off to the moon.”

Why am I reminded of Ralph Cramden?

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ObserverArt  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:51:19pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #169 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I found some info on the guy I know and he is running a Sonic in Global Rallycross. Looks like he runs a limited schedule. Link to story and some pictures of his Rally Sonic if Sonic fans are interested.

Red Bull Global Rallycross Sonic

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:52:51pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

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Oh he misspeaks a lot. That makes him being insensitive that much better.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:52:59pm

Security costs skyrocket at EPA for Scott Pruitt.
cnn.com

The Environmental Protection Agency is beefing up security measures surrounding Administrator Scott Pruitt to an unprecedented level, CNN has learned, as members of Congress are asking if the costs are a “potential waste or abuse of taxpayer dollars.”

Pruitt’s security detail is in the process of expanding by hiring a dozen more agents, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, as the number of threats against the agency leader increase. The incoming agents will grow the team that works in shifts to provide him around-the-clock protection, something unheard of for Pruitt’s predecessors.

Salaries alone for the full team will cost at least $2 million per year, according to figures compiled by CNN from public documents. The numbers do not include costs such as training, equipment, and travel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:53:29pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

pretty sure I know who at least one of the guys in (1) were.

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:54:24pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

The government didn’t invoke the XXV Amendment either.

(He invoked it on himself when he was about to go into surgery after the assassination attempt on him, but that was a prudent decision on Mr. Reagan’s part.)

I wonder if the anesthesia for that surgery didn’t kick his Alzheimer’s into higher gear. My husband had several surgeries late in his life, and he lost ground with the anesthesia each time.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:55:24pm

Here’s the thing, Trumpers: We’re not getting on him for being an insensitive clod, we’re getting on him for denying he is and ATTACKING THE WITNESSES!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:55:39pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure I know who at least one of the guys in (1) were.

One rode an overdressed blue Harley, the other was subdued, almost matte, black.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:56:26pm

off to photoshop

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:56:48pm

re: #182 retired cynic

I wonder if the anesthesia for that surgery didn’t kick his Alzheimer’s into higher gear. My husband had several surgeries late in his life, and he lost ground with the anesthesia each time.

I can’t really say; I neither know enough about Alzheimer’s Disease nor anaesthesia to say.

On an unrelated note, you go by the name “Retired Cynic” here. My wife goes by “Headcynic” on her YouTube account … did she take over the Department of Cynicism from you? /s

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 4:59:07pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:00:12pm

Roy Edroso’s take on warwidowslanderghazi
villagevoice.com

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:00:36pm

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t really say; I neither know enough about Alzheimer’s Disease nor anaesthesia to say.

On an unrelated note, you go by the name “Retired Cynic” here. My wife goes by “Headcynic” on her YouTube account … did she take over the Department of Cynicism from you? /s

Absolutely. I got tired.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:03:58pm

Dog juice

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:04:12pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been to Perry, though it’s been a long time (in the mid Eighties).

I don’t know the first thing about running a restaurant. I was just taking a shot in the dark at the restaurant’s problems with its lack of waitstaff.

No waitstaff is paid a living wage.

None.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:04:56pm
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nines09  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:06:04pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

It’s being explained as: there is a statue of the fictional boxer in Philadelphia, the exiled cleric lives in Pennsylvania, therefore he must have had something to do with this.

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and that’s with only one napkin a straw wrapper or two and no wit on it…..

At the window at Pat’s Steaks, forever and always….You can stand there too and say “WIT!”

Rocky pounding sides of hanging beef was filmed at Cross Brothers Meat packing at Front and Venango Philly. Smelling distance from my move from Fairhill to Kenzo. You can see the rail, and they took bull haulers….. Messy business. The “product” knew. Yeah. Insane. Vegan start..
It all burned down. Had a buddy who worked there. Short timer. Had nightmares, and he was street fighter… They got him up on the ramp and any animal that didn’t go down from the pneumatic bolt was his. They issued him a snub nosed PS 38. Of course he fucked up the first few times… Made him put a couple of rounds in a few on command….Feed the line…
On certain hot summer nights when the air was right and the rail light…
I grew up where Rocky was mostly filmed. I remember being stunned in a theatre seeing my hood on the screen. It looked better up there, trust me.
Ahhhh, Rocky.

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:06:07pm

re: #161 freetoken

The real answer to Trump is to make sure the GOP loses the House in 2018, and then force impeachments (of not just Trump but many of his cronies.)

That’s totally pointless without having 2/3 in the Senate to convict. Senate Republicans are so spiteful that they are 100% certain to not convict if a D-controlled House does the impeachment, and only 99.9999% to not convict if an R-controlled House does the impeachment.

The real reason to hope for the Democrats to win the House in 2018 is simply to end total R control of Congress.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:06:21pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:08:26pm

So behind on thread. Sorry if posted

A Weinstein settlement woman just broke her NDA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:08:42pm

re: #153 Birth Control Works

The quote refers to Kentucky, not Cincinnati.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:12:05pm

Hizballah. Didn’t that used to be a joke around here a few years back?

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garzooma  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:12:07pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

If any of u really think Trump purposely insulted Myeshia Johnson u need to watch some of his un scripted raw footage, he misspeaks a lot…[Embedded content]

Nobody thinks Trump purposely insulted Myeshia Johnson. We think he insulted Myeshia Johnson because he’s lazy, insensitive, and unfocused: you know, an f***ing moron.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:12:09pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

So behind on thread. Sorry if posted

A Weinstein settlement woman just broke her NDA.

“Cow” was not the word I uttered (no pun intended)

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:13:08pm

re: #194 EPR-radar

That’s totally pointless without having 2/3 in the Senate to convict. Senate Republicans are so spiteful that they are 100% certain to not convict if a D-controlled House does the impeachment, and only 99.9999% to not convict if an R-controlled House does the impeachment.

The real reason to hope for the Democrats to win the House in 2018 is simply to end total R control of Congress.

The real reason is that with a dem majority we can have real investigations with real subpoena powers. We will need a smoking gun perhaps several to get the 2/3 necessary for impeachment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:13:12pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

One rode an overdressed blue Harley, the other was subdued, almost matte, black.

the preacher has a biker BBQ/entertainment/souvenir shop/Harley bike parts shop/church in Georgia.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:14:58pm

re: #198 Ace Rothstein

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Hizballah. Didn’t that used to be a joke around here a few years back?

And we must do everything we can to ensure the British gov’t does not launch another war upon us like the one they waged against us in 1812.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:16:33pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

46% of people are dumber than rocks. Not coincidentally, that is about the same percentage as voted for the Rancid Papaya in the first place.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:19:00pm

Lot of Reefer Madness types among the commenters:

Facebook Post

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:20:09pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

the preacher has a biker BBQ/entertainment/souvenir shop/Harley bike parts shop/church in Georgia.

Heh. This would have been in the Cairo/Thomasville area.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:20:52pm

re: #203 Targetpractice

And we must do everything we can to ensure the British gov’t does not launch another war upon us like the one they waged against us in 1812.

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But Nazis and Russians are cool……

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:22:24pm

Hey Donny, promise you’ll show the same “bravery” that Reagan did after Beirut.

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:27:44pm

re: #199 garzooma

Nobody thinks Trump purposely insulted Myeshia Johnson. We think he insulted Myeshia Johnson because he’s lazy, insensitive, and unfocused: you know, an f***ing moron.

I think Trump’s malignant narcissism also plays a part here. Trump put in zero effort on this because he doesn’t give a shit about anyone else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:28:22pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Heh. This would have been in the Cairo/Thomasville area.

I’m trying to remember who the preacher is.

Norman Reedus visited his “establishment/church” in his first season of Ride With Norman Reedus.

Just found it…my bad…not Georgia…it was Ashville, NC.

Freedom Biker Church Asheville on AMC’s RIDE w/ Norman Reedus

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:28:40pm

re: #171 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I wanted a stick, but Mrs. Fish can’t drive one.

[Sulk.]

Edit: The Corvette also has a manual option.

The Chevy SS sedan too. But the last one rolled off the line in AUS just a few days ago. A really sweet car, and if I had that much disposable income, I’d have one. But future availability of parts/body panels would be scarce and $$$.

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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:29:13pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Hey Donny, promise you’ll show the same “bravery” that Reagan did after Beirut.

That would imply a wag the dog military operation which he’d be stupid enough to try in Korea rather than a nearly unarmed third world country. Just 25th the fucker & let’s get on with finding something to impeach Pence over.

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:29:17pm

re: #201 gocart mozart

The real reason is that with a dem majority we can have real investigations with real subpoena powers. We will need a smoking gun perhaps several to get the 2/3 necessary for impeachment.

The Senate will convict Trump on articles of impeachment if and only if Republican tax cuts fail to get done, and Trump is at fault for this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:29:55pm

DON’T READ THE COMMENTS

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:31:52pm

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

DON’T READ THE COMMENTS

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I’m not that much of a masochist.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:32:20pm

re: #198 Ace Rothstein

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:32:25pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m trying to remember who the preacher is.

Norman Reedus visited his “establishment/church” in his first season of Ride With Norman Reedus.

Just found it…my bad…not Georgia…it was Ashville, NC.

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Different pew, same message.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:36:55pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Different pew, same message.

indeed.

But I have to admit that I watched that episode when it first aired. That preacher gave a good sermon.
Mind you, not good enough for me to sit in the pew, but a fairly decent sermon nonetheless.

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sagehen  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:37:42pm

re: #161 freetoken

The real answer to Trump is to make sure the GOP loses the House in 2018, and then force impeachments (of not just Trump but many of his cronies.)

Or just keep him from nominating anymore “judges”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:37:58pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

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Decatur Deb  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:38:51pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed.

But I have to admit that I watched that episode when it first aired. That preacher gave a good sermon.
Mind you, not good enough for me to sit in the pew, but a fairly decent sermon nonetheless.

Just go to church for the outhouse races.

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:39:03pm

“WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS!”

“Trump was callous and said things that outraged my grieving family.”

“FUCK YOU, YOU BRAINWASHED PUPPET! HOW MUCH DID THE DNC PAY YOU TO SAY THAT?!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:39:39pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Just go to church for the outhouse races.

omg, yes! Those were great!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:41:02pm

After a day like today we all need this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:42:24pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Just go to church for the outhouse races.

Port-a-Potty Race Debut

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:43:20pm

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

DON’T READ THE COMMENTS

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I only wish that the six soldiers standing there watching could deal with the freaking comments and those who make them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:46:40pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

Hey Donny, promise you’ll show the same “bravery” that Reagan did after Beirut.

I was on workups aboard the USS America (CV-66) in the Caribbean Sea at the time of the bombing in Beirut. We were prepared for a few days at sea.

The orders came in to augment the USS Nimitz (CVN-68), then in the Mediterranean Sea. Our little six-day workup turned into three months. Sudden unannounced deployments happen in the Navy, and evacuating British, French, and American personnel was a good thing. However, it sort of made Reagan’s “we don’t run from terrorists” statement rather hollow (since that’s exactly what we did).

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:46:45pm

re: #219 sagehen

Or just keep him from nominating anymore “judges”.

The House is irrelevant for judicial nominations. That’s the Senate.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:48:26pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

Trump has not yet fulfilled his earthly purpose—discrediting the GOP beyond recovery.

Yep. We need the Ana Navarro’s and the Jennifer Rubin’s in the party to decide it’s time to leave, and the Mitt Romney’s to begin paying for a new party. Until then, removing Trump will just make room for the next one.

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:49:11pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

So behind on thread. Sorry if posted

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A Weinstein settlement woman just broke her NDA.

What I’m really waiting for is for Trump NDAs to get broken.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:49:23pm

re: #226 whitebeach

I only wish that the six soldiers standing there watching could deal with the freaking comments and those who make them.

I guess it’s a good thing that the FOX comment section will not load on my computer. Being FOX, I imagine it’s a Dumpster fire of racism, hatred, and derp.

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Jay C  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:53:36pm

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹

However, it sort of made Reagan’s “we don’t run from terrorists” statement rather hollow (since that’s exactly what we did).

Well, not exactly: IIRC, the Reagan Admin’s response to Beirut was more like: “We aren’t going to run from terrorists, but we WILL scuttle back here just out of reach, and make a lot of “tough” speeches about how “tough” we are, and so “F*** You, Wogs

Tough.

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BeachDem  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:53:47pm

re: #230 EPR-radar

What I’m really waiting for is for Trump NDAs to get broken.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:55:57pm

My wife just got an E-mail from the White House in response to an Executive Order she objected to.

She got back an answer weighing in on an entirely different Executive Order, Trump’s EO on so-called “Religious Freedom” referring to the Johnson Amendment and thanking my wife for her support.

Not only is Trump clueless, so is the White House staff. (As an atheist, I seriously doubt my wife would like to see the Johnson Amendment repealed so churches can become taxpayer supported political action committees.)

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 5:57:10pm

re: #198 Ace Rothstein

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:01:27pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

I guess it’s a good thing that the FOX comment section will not load on my computer. Being FOX, I imagine it’s a Dumpster fire of racism, hatred, and derp.

Running theme is Johnson is a “puppet” or “being paid” by the DNC, and so disrespecting her husband’s sacrifice. That Trump gave a sincere call (that none of them have actually heard) and she’s lying about what was said.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:03:09pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

Running theme is Johnson is a “puppet” or “being paid” by the DNC, and so disrespecting her husband’s sacrifice. That Trump gave a sincere call (that none of them have actually heard) and she’s lying about what was said.

Sigh. Who the hell do they think they are?

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:05:04pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

Running theme is Johnson is a “puppet” or “being paid” by the DNC, and so disrespecting her husband’s sacrifice. That Trump gave a sincere call (that none of them have actually heard) and she’s lying about what was said.

Eventually it will expand to Johnson was sent by Wilson to Africa to be killed so she could go after Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:06:00pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Sigh. Who the hell do they think they are?

Fascists.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:06:27pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

Running theme is Johnson is a “puppet” or “being paid” by the DNC, and so disrespecting her husband’s sacrifice. That Trump gave a sincere call (that none of them have actually heard) and she’s lying about what was said.

I can almost believe “Trump meant well” and that he did what Trump does, which is brag about himself, and think that he fulfilled his “duty” with a “score of 10 out of 10.”

He was so proud of himself with that disgusting spectacle of a Stalinesque “standing ovation” at the SOTU.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:06:48pm

re: #235 Belafon

Buried in the replies:

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:08:05pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

I can almost believe “Trump meant well” and that he did what Trump does, which is brag about himself, and think that he fulfilled his “duty” with a “score of 10 our of 10.”

He was so proud of himself with that disgusting spectacle of a Stalinesque “standing ovation” at the SOTU.

The comments smack so strongly of the USSR-era “You should be grateful your loved one gave his life in service of the state” mentality, that her husband’s death was somehow a fulfillment of an obligation to Dear Leader.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:10:51pm

re: #242 Targetpractice

The comments smack so strongly of the USSR-era “You should be grateful your loved one gave his life in service of the state” mentality, that her husband’s death was somehow a fulfillment of an obligation to Dear Leader.

Along with some good old-fashioned all-American racism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:11:11pm

re: #242 Targetpractice

The comments smack so strongly of the USSR-era “You should be grateful your loved one gave his life in service of the state” mentality, that her husband’s death was somehow a fulfillment of an obligation to Dear Leader.

I was a Navy Recruiter at one time, so my ex-wife (when my son graduated from high school) jumped on me to tell me “don’t you dare try to get him to join the Navy.” (My wife then started talking to him about the Air Force, which really set my ex- off.)

He didn’t go into the military, and if he was thinking about it now, I’d do my level-best to talk him out of it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:13:42pm

re: #242 Targetpractice

The comments smack so strongly of the USSR-era “You should be grateful your loved one gave his life in service of the state” mentality, that her husband’s death was somehow a fulfillment of an obligation to Dear Leader.

I wonder how many of the commentators are our home-grown FOX drones, and how many of them are foreign interference?

Russia’s SVR isn’t stupid: If they figured out they could manipulate Faceborg and Twitterplant, then manipulating FOX News shouldn’t be any tougher (or Yahoo, or Huffington Post, &c)

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:16:22pm

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Along with some good old-fashioned all-American racism.

Oh true, I forgot to mention the open racism and the insinuations (oh, who am I kidding, outright claims) that she’s looking to “profit” off her husband’s “sacrifice.”

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bratwurst  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:17:37pm
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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:19:53pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:20:17pm

re: #247 bratwurst

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Another paragon of “personal responsibility.”

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:21:51pm

This is brutal

It’s not exactly a news flash at this point that Donald Trump isn’t very fluent on questions of public policy, but his interview over the weekend with Fox Business Channel’s Maria Bartiromo is really a sobering reminder of the levels of ignorance and dishonesty that the country is dealing with

That makes the extent to which he manages to flub the interview all the more striking. He’s simply incapable of discussing any topic at any length in anything remotely resembling an informed or coherent way

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:22:30pm

re: #247 bratwurst

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Go get a safe space.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:23:40pm

re: #242 Targetpractice

The comments smack so strongly of the USSR-era “You should be grateful your loved one gave his life in service of the state” mentality, that her husband’s death was somehow a fulfillment of an obligation to Dear Leader.

Well Bannon is a Lenin fan so it’s no surprise that he’s got the Trumpers seeing Donnie akin to how the Soviets saw Lenin.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:23:57pm

Florida Man moves to Oklahoma:

Police Discover Speeding Driver Nearly Naked And Covered In Vaseline (Goes to Huffington Post).

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:24:26pm

NYT 9-25
How South Koreans Cope With Kim Jong-un

As the child of a South Korean woman who married an American airman in the 1970s, I’ve enjoyed being a product of two worlds: this land of my upbringing and the Korean Peninsula through anecdotal stories.

I’ve often heard of the autocrat due north of the demilitarized zone running his country by the myths of his reputation. Perhaps we Americans can learn from the South Korean approach to Kim Jong-un (and his predecessor).

South Koreans carry on with life, ignoring his infantile antics and his macho militarism. They don’t live in fear of him and certainly don’t provoke his fragile ego to war.

The worst punishment (and most effective correction) for this man-child is to ignore his tantrums. This is done as much for peace of mind in Seoul as for peace with Pyongyang.

Let’s try to help a populace hurting with hunger and humiliation, but leave the autocrat forlorn, boasting about his toys.

RICK HARRINGTON
SALISBURY, MASS.

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garzooma  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:25:00pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

I can almost believe “Trump meant well” and that he did what Trump does, which is brag about himself, and think that he fulfilled his “duty” with a “score of 10 out of 10.”

He also tries to wing it, which is how you end up not having the soldier’s name. It’s also how the whole mess started: he didn’t have an answer to the question of why there had been no statement about the deaths in Niger. But he’s also too lazy to learn Crash Davis’s lesson that cliche’s are your friend, and just say something like “we’re working on a response and will issue it shortly.” Instead he started talking about calling people, which no one had asked about, and stupidly blundered into an even worse minefield.

Short version: F***ing Moron.

256
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:25:05pm

re: #247 bratwurst

Hey, I thought Christians were always blaming atheists for being mad at God? /s

Is O’Reilley an atheist now? /s (I don’t want him in our club)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:26:37pm

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹

Florida Man moves to Oklahoma:

Police Discover Speeding Driver Nearly Naked And Covered In Vaseline (Goes to Huffington Post).

More likely Texas Man getting a little lost.

258
gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:31:49pm

re: #247 bratwurst

That’s because even Jesus Christ thinks he’s a fucking asshole.

259
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:33:10pm

Speaking of Texas Man, this happened in Lubbock today:

Facebook Post

A man has been taken into custody Monday night after he shot and killed a horse that was running around his neighborhood at the 2200 block of 47th Street.

A neighbor in that area, James Morillo, said there were two horses running down the street and one went up to his neighbors fence.

After seeing the horse near his fence, a man came out of his house with a rifle and shot at the horse about three times. After being shot, the horse came near Morillo, then collapsed and died.

“It’s wrong, it was cruelty to animals. I mean, the horse wasn’t trying to get in his fence,” Morillo said. “I’d understand if it was a stray dog or something, but it’s just a horse.”

Neighbors said the horses may belong to someone in that area. Officials are trying to contact the owner of the horses to notify them about its death.

Btw, from the pictures this looks like some semi-rural fringe area. It is actually in the middle of town, one of many decaying “forgotten neighborhoods” in Lubbock as new Mcmansion development speeds into formerly rural areas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:33:40pm

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹

He seems nice:

“Beebe checked Kellerman’s license and discovered he was driving on a revoked license. In fact, the license hadn’t been valid since 1985.

Kellerman has spent most of the past 27 years in state prison on a variety of charges, including domestic assault, car theft, burglary and narcotics possession.”

Why is it almost always men doing stupid shit like this?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:36:19pm
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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:37:24pm

re: #255 garzooma

He also tries to wing it, which is how you end up not having the soldier’s name. It’s also how the whole mess started: he didn’t have an answer to the question of why there had been no statement about the deaths in Niger. But he’s also too lazy to learn Crash Davis’s lesson that cliche’s are your friend, and just say something like “we’re working on a response and will issue it shortly.” Instead he started talking about calling people, which no one had asked about, and stupidly blundered into an even worse minefield.

Short version: F***ing Moron.

And then add to that ….after he steps in it still he can never ever be wrong

264
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:38:36pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

He seems nice:

“Beebe checked Kellerman’s license and discovered he was driving on a revoked license. In fact, the license hadn’t been valid since 1985.

Kellerman has spent most of the past 27 years in state prison on a variety of charges, including domestic assault, car theft, burglary and narcotics possession.”

Why is it almost always men doing stupid shit like this?

It almost makes me want to turn in my man membership club card. /s

Such things simply never occurred to me to do. I guess the Feminazis got to me when I was really young or something. (Well, by my tweens there were no men older than me in my family so there may be something to that.)

265
Varek Raith  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:42:18pm

Hello.
I hurt.
I hurt bad.
Stupid sinus infection.

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:42:20pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Why is it almost always men doing stupid shit like this?

Because when was the last time you heard a woman say, “Hold my beer”?

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:43:11pm

re: #262 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]
In Bill O’Reilly’s most dramatic claim for victimhood yet, the former Fox News host admits, “Am I mad at God? Yeah.”

Cause he made you do it and so you didn’t have the strength to stop yourself?

Or because you couldn’t stop yourself and God didn’t step in?

I mean in how many ways are you not responsible for your own self?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:44:50pm

huffingtonpost.com

Eric Bolling asks Bill O’Reilly to keep his son’s death out of O’Reilly’s troubles.

Memo to Bill O’Reilly: Your former Fox News colleagues want you to leave them out of your mess.

The latest of those colleagues is Eric Bolling, who said Monday that O’Reilly’s claims regarding the recent death of Bolling’s son are “beyond inappropriate” and asked he cease discussing it.

Bolling released the statement in response to O’Reilly blaming The New York Times for the death, a puzzling accusation related to media coverage of Bolling’s departure from Fox News after Bolling was accused of sending unsolicited lewd text messages to colleagues.

(more)

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dangerman  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:49:03pm

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, I thought Christians were always blaming atheists for being mad at God? /s

Is O’Reilley an atheist now? /s (I don’t want him in our club)

re: #267 dangerman

Cause he made you do it and so you didn’t have the strength to stop yourself?

Or because you couldn’t stop yourself and God didn’t step in?

I mean in how many ways are you not responsible for your own self?

Things can be so much easier when you don’t have to explain why a nonexistent god did or didn’t do something

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Varek Raith  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:50:27pm

Bill O - Why didn’t God stop me?!!?!

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:50:30pm

re: #269 dangerman

Things can be so much easier when you don’t have to explain why a nonexistent god did or didn’t do something

But then you might apologize.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:53:42pm

re: #269 dangerman

Things can be so much easier when you don’t have to explain why a nonexistent god did or didn’t do something

O’Reilly can blame God but he knows better than to try and blame the nuns who taught him…..one of those yields true vengeance.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:54:07pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:55:21pm

Wingnuts think Myeshia Johnson is trying to profit off her husband’s death. Meanwhile…

Lesson of the day: The way to get sympathy from Trump is to be white, male, and a bitter ex-husband. If you’re a black woman, you best accept Trump’s half-assed “condolences” or he will personally work to tear you down.

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Skip Intro  Oct 23, 2017 • 6:59:05pm

re: #272 b.d. (bill d.)

They didn’t teach him very well.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:03:39pm

re: #274 Targetpractice

Wingnuts think Myeshia Johnson is trying to profit off her husband’s death. Meanwhile…

[Embedded content]

Lesson of the day: The way to get sympathy from Trump is to be white, male, and a bitter ex-husband. If you’re a black woman, you best accept Trump’s half-assed “condolences” or he will personally work to tear you down.

When it’s all said and done, we will want an emolument monument. To remind us what mistake we must never repeat.

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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:06:49pm

re: #266 whitebeach

Because when was the last time you heard a woman say, “Hold my beer”?

I was still on active duty, so 1985? Yeah, Lawrence KS. She then started the biggest bar fight I’ve had the mispleasure to be involved in (off post, in Kansas with Army, Air Force, some Marines on TDY & lots of the local college kids. One of those college had hit on her girlfriend really crudely and she was drunk enough to take offense. After she got knocked out I used the “Gotta get my GF out of here” routine to get past the bouncer despite my Army haircut. Her actual GF got out ok sans a stop at the PD too but yeah, that’s the last time I ever heard a woman do the proverbial “hold my beer” thing.

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whitebeach  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:13:07pm

re: #277 William Lewis

I was still on active duty, so 1985? Yeah, Lawrence KS. She then started the biggest bar fight I’ve had the mispleasure to be involved in (off post, in Kansas with Army, Air Force, some Marines on TDY & lots of the local college kids. One of those college had hit on her girlfriend really crudely and she was drunk enough to take offense. After she got knocked out I used the “Gotta get my GF out of here” routine to get past the bouncer despite my Army haircut. Her actual GF got out ok sans a stop at the PD too but yeah, that’s the last time I ever heard a woman do the proverbial “hold my beer” thing.

Love the story.

1985? Shit, even I was fairly young then, and in NYC. If I searched my rotting memory I could probably find a similar incident, but then I didn’t specify women saying “Hold my martini.”

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Varek Raith  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:13:37pm

I don’t drink at all, so I’m immune. :P

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Kilroy was here  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:15:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:20:45pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:21:01pm

For those keeping score, the Johnson family neither said or did anything to elicit a phone call from Trump, it only came days after Trump had publicly ignored the matter to golf and bitch at the NFL.

By contrast, Mr. Baldridge got a call from Trump, during which he basically begged for a handout by moaning that the Survivor’s Benefits were going to his ex-wife while he didn’t have any money. Trump promised to cut him a check for $25K, and only did so after the press called attention to it.

Yet the Johnson family is being presented as ungrateful for the call, while the Baldridges are being presented as happy that the check finally came to them.

283
Varek Raith  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:21:20pm

50% off Civ 6 coupon.
Thanks, Steam.
I guess.
Not really.

284
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:21:50pm

Liberal Redneck (Trey Crowder) weighing in on the American love affair with guns, and there is always “nothing we can do” when it’s a white guy who shoots up people.

Liberal Redneck - On Guns

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:24:13pm

re: #283 Varek Raith

50% off Civ 6 coupon.
Thanks, Steam.
I guess.
Not really.

Yeah, thanks Firaxis. Now you wanna get off your ass and give us an expansion already? Or at the very least announce one? Or are we just getting a few piddly DLCs?

286
retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:26:44pm

re: #276 Unshaken Defiance

When it’s all said and done, we will want an emolument monument. To remind us what mistake we must never repeat.

We can use the Trump “hotel” in the old post office in DC. Rededicate it.

287
retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:28:14pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

Maybe Melania could give that anti-bullying speech again?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:29:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:31:50pm
290
goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:32:26pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

It’s been a target rich environment for preemptively banning assholes on Twitter.

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:32:46pm

Fred Clark at Slacktivist has a nice column about archaeology and the bible, but the real fun is in the comments section afterwards.

Example:

mattmcirvin • 5 hours ago
I remember wondering what the hell Ronald Reagan meant when he asserted that recent discoveries in modern physics had only served to confirm ancient religious truths.

(In hindsight, I think what it meant was “Peggy Noonan wrote this and is being Peggy Noonan.”)

And I saw our friend Gocart Mozart there! Hi!

292
Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:41:40pm

As we’ve seen time and again, wingnuts only have a use for widows when they play to the script, which is generally to be seen and not heard unless they attack a Democrat or liberal. It’s why they loved Mrs. Owens, because the most she did was sit in a balcony seat and accept applause when Trump called attention to her attendance. If she’d publicly criticized Trump or his administration, the wingnuts would have been just as gleeful in attacking her as they are Myeshia Johnson.

293
William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:52:40pm

re: #291 retired cynic

Fred Clark at Slacktivist has a nice column about archaeology and the bible, but the real fun is in the comments section afterwards.

Example:

And I saw our friend Gocart Mozart there! Hi!

Nothing new in the article (nicely written though) and nothing new in the comments (generally less well written). Reminds me that I’m supposed to be atheist because all those horrible contradictions in a collection of human written documents with human agendas couldn’t possibly have even a little hint of a bigger truth to them :O I’ll ask Father Art about it at mass tomorrow noon & see which of us gets the bigger laugh out of it.

294
Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:53:29pm

Trae Crowder notes there is a way to get rid of the Confederate Flag once and for all but it would be a tall order to get liberals to accept the idea:

Get the LGBT movement to adopt the flag. He predicts that within two weeks the flag would be gone across the South; you’d here a giant ripping sound of cloth across every Dixie state.

295
gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 7:58:33pm

re: #284 Anymouse 🌹

Where does he live? He should run for congress.

296
retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:00:16pm

re: #293 William Lewis

Sorry, that’s not the way I took it at all.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:03:18pm

re: #274 Targetpractice

Wingnuts think Myeshia Johnson is trying to profit off her husband’s death. Meanwhile…

[Embedded content]

Lesson of the day: The way to get sympathy from Trump is to be white, male, and a bitter ex-husband. If you’re a black woman, you best accept Trump’s half-assed “condolences” or he will personally work to tear you down.

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William Lewis  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:05:05pm

re: #296 retired cynic

Sorry, that’s not the way I took it at all.

Don’t get me wrong that’s not from the article at all. I was thinking of other people places and times in my life. Even when we’re disagreeing about religion around here no one is like that. Sorry if I came across otherwise.

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:05:38pm

re: #298 William Lewis

No sweat!

300
Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:07:57pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Gets better. Here’s the letter enclosed with the check:

So his lawyers took months to sign off on his sending this check…the day that the media called him on it. Better yet, he labels it a “contribution,” probably because “pay-off” was too harsh.

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:08:58pm

Better cash it quick.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:10:35pm

re: #293 William Lewis

Nothing new in the article (nicely written though) and nothing new in the comments (generally less well written). Reminds me that I’m supposed to be atheist because all those horrible contradictions in a collection of human written documents with human agendas couldn’t possibly have even a little hint of a bigger truth to them :O I’ll ask Father Art about it at mass tomorrow noon & see which of us gets the bigger laugh out of it.

Well, the basic issues are:

a) Most people who adhere to a particular religious sect were raised in that sect. It is rarer for a person to move to a different sect than it is to abandon faith.

5) Discussion about overt contradictions in the Bible aren’t meant to “deconvert” someone; they are meant to dethrone the idea that the Bible is the “literal word of God” as held by many Protestant fundamentalists. The “literal word of God” should not have contradictions, if the book is meant as an important message that God wants humans to know about. There should be no way to misinterpret the message of an omniscient being by different people in different cultures (let alone the same culture).

iii) Many discussions of the inherent contradictions of all faiths (not just Christianity) aren’t aimed at the person with whom a person is having the discussion. In a back-and-forth commentary (such as Yahoo Religion and Spirituality), there are many people who never ask or answer questions, but read what’s going on. Many answers are aimed at them. If such people are questioning why they take accept assertion without evidence (that being faith), and moreover this particular assertion rather than another (such as Islam or Hinduism), that helps advance the idea that nothing should either be beyond question or not subjected to sceptical enquiry.

§) The Great Commission in the New Testament (1 Peter 3:15), that one should always be ready to give a reason for his or her faith) is what compels people from out-of-town to come to my door on Saturday mornings (not so much any more since the word got out I answer the door on Saturdays in the nude because Christians are scared of human bodies). I’ll give ‘em props if they can stand there and make their pitch while I am standing in my doorway in the nude. They cannot give a reason though, because reason is suspended in the case of faith.

%) That article isn’t written for the person secure in faith. It is written for those who have questions. Probably a lot of Christians will have a good laugh at it. Not all will though, and it is them the article is aimed at.

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plansbandc  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:12:33pm

Does Scott Adams have a brain cell? Asking for a friend.

304
goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:15:10pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:16:30pm

These people are fucked in the head.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:18:30pm

This is a massive takedown of one of 45’s unqualified secretaries, although it doesn’t take much to make them look stupid

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:20:09pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart

So when does the check bounce?

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VegasGolfer  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:21:15pm

— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) October 23, 2017

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:21:37pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart

What disgusting manipulation … and Trump once again gets the press to focus on him rather than the Dumpster fire in the White House.

Moreover, what’s special about this guy (other than he complained his son’s SGLI was designated to be paid to his ex-wife)? Why don’t the other three get $25,000?

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:24:38pm

re: #309 Anymouse 🌹

What disgusting manipulation … and Trump once again gets the press to focus on him rather than the Dumpster fire in the White House.

Moreover, what’s special about this guy (other than he complained his son’s SGLI was designated to be paid to his ex-wife)? Why don’t the other three get $25,000?

A lot more than the other three. This man lost his son (his estranged son, it sounds like) much earlier this year.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:26:26pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:26:59pm

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

They loved the fantasy because it fit into their tidy little worldview, i.e. Trump had been totally sincere and caring, so Wilson was fabricating a call and exploiting the family of this fallen hero to attack him. They’ll even tell themselves that perhaps he was “misunderstood,” that he made a “poor choice of words,” but his feelings were sincere and we should accept that he’s not the most articulate person.

So a faux Myeshia who declared Wilson a liar and quoted from the stock script approved by Kelly was exactly what they wanted to hear. And that fantasy is so important to them that they’re telling themselves that she’s lying due to force or manipulation, at least the ones who aren’t accusing her of wishing to profit off her husband’s death.

I would not be surprised for a sec if some of these morons tell themselves that, if Sgt. Johnson were still alive, he’d be outraged by Wilson’s actions and speaking in support of his Commander-in-Chief, because all soldiers are brainwashed minions except when a Democrat is in office.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:29:52pm

...

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:30:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:33:33pm

re: #306 VegasGolfer

That was painful to watch. I hope Dr. Carson can find the shiv that was left in him.

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:52:14pm

re: #291 retired cynic

Funny, I hadn’t visited that blog in months. Hi back at you.

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:54:22pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart

Am I the only one that thinks Trump’s signature looks like the results of a failed polygraph exam?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 23, 2017 • 8:58:18pm

re: #305 teleskiguy

These people are fucked in the head.

My money’s on Maxine; TKO in the second.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 23, 2017 • 9:33:23pm

re: #305 teleskiguy

These people are fucked in the head.

[Embedded content]

What in the fuck.


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