An Absolutely Gorgeous Track by Acoustic Guitarist Michael Kobrin: “Stay”

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Composition & Performance: Michael Kobrin
Mix & Mastering: Antoine Dufour
Recording engeneer: Yonatan Kossov
Filming (Camera) : Ami Bornstein
Edditing: Ami Bornstein
Makeup: Iveta Safronyak
Filming assistant: Maayan Reznik

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retired cynic  Dec 26, 2017 • 8:59:34pm

Just gorgeous!

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BeachDem  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:11:42pm

Continuing the Chrissie Teigen flight mystery (I just love that woman)

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:31:59pm
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austin_blue  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:36:26pm

We saw The Shape of Water yesterday. See it, see it, see it.

Easily the most breathtaking, emotional, and true movie we’ve seen this year.

Stunning piece of work. GDT at the top of his game. Thought Pan’s Labyrinth couldn’t be topped. Wrong. This one contains a shred of hope within the beauty of destruction.

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allegro  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:41:01pm

Hmmm now none of the buttons here work for me. I’ve rebooted. Reloaded. DIsabled all extensions. Just started doing this earlier today. Haven’t been anywhere new, nothing added or deleted.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:41:21pm
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allegro  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:41:41pm

Aaaaand bounced to the home page when I post.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:41:54pm
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Kragar  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:45:05pm

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sagehen  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:51:24pm

wow. Does he honestly not know that the war was started by the South, to protest Lincoln’s election, even before his inauguration?

Or is he just pretending to not know that?

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:53:13pm

re: #10 sagehen

He’s a Nazi. Truth is someone else’s problem.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2017 • 9:53:51pm

re: #10 sagehen

wow. Does he honestly not know that the war was started by the South, to protest Lincoln’s election, even before his inauguration?

Or is he just pretending to not know that?

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austin_blue  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:00:08pm

re: #10 sagehen

wow. Does he honestly not know that the war was started by the South, to protest Lincoln’s election, even before his inauguration?

Or is he just pretending to not know that?

To be accurate, the Union occupied the unfinished fort in December, 1860, after SC’s secession from the Union because of Lincoln’s election. P. G.T. Beauregard attacked the fort in April, 1861 after Lincoln’s inauguration, and after his declaration that he would reinforce the fort.

But still, Wohl is a fucking secessionist apologist and a neo-nazi.

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BeachDem  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:00:08pm

re: #11 jaunte

He’s a Nazi. Truth is someone else’s problem.

And so aptly named—Jacob Ahole. (I’m hooked on phonics)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:04:37pm

re: #4 austin_blue

We saw The Shape of Water yesterday. See it, see it, see it.

Easily the most breathtaking, emotional, and true movie we’ve seen this year.

Stunning piece of work. GDT at the top of his game. Thought Pan’s Labyrinth couldn’t be topped. Wrong. This one contains a shred of hope within the beauty of destruction.

A girl friend and I saw it today. Original, amazing, a fairy tale for adults, but not for everyone, especially those who do not enjoy fantasy. I also have to confess that I averted my gaze to avoid certain scenes of violence and brutality.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:12:01pm

re: #13 austin_blue

re: #9 Kragar

re: #8 jaunte

He’s only 19 years old and already an ignorant racist and grifter. See bloomberg.com

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austin_blue  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:12:01pm

re: #15 Hecuba’s daughter

A girl friend and I saw it today. Original, amazing, a fairy tale for adults, but not for everyone, especially those who do not enjoy fantasy. I also have to confess that I averted my gaze to avoid certain scenes of violence and brutality.

We did too. But you know, that’s the “adult” part of it. That kind of raw violence is a real thing in our world and must be acknowledged. Look, or not look, it’s real. I also loved the fact that it was set in 1962, and brought the “win at all costs” mentality of Dr. Strangelove in as a flavor to the plot. Brilliant piece of film making, we thought. Just blubbered at times. Just thunderstruck at the imagery and sense of wonder at others. Oh, and the casting and acting were just killer bee.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:39:28pm

re: #17 austin_blue

We did too. But you know, that’s the “adult” part of it. That kind of raw violence is a real thing in our world and must be acknowledged. Look, or not look, it’s real. I also loved the fact that it was set in 1962, and brought the “win at all costs” mentality of Dr. Strangelove in as a flavor to the plot. Brilliant piece of film making, we thought. Just blubbered at times. Just thunderstruck at the imagery and sense of wonder at others. Oh, and the casting and acting were just killer bee.

Physically, the creature reminded me of Abe Sapien in the movie Hellboy. And didn’t Abe like eggs too?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:40:25pm

Nice short, fast, small earthquake. I didn’t even feel it since I was standing up, just heard the house creak. mr. klys felt it since he’s sitting on the couch.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:51:16pm

re: #19 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nice short, fast, small earthquake. I didn’t even feel it since I was standing up, just heard the house creak. mr. klys felt it since he’s sitting on the couch.

I totally missed ours yesterday, a 2.8 just 0.7 miles from here.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 26, 2017 • 10:52:49pm

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

I totally missed ours yesterday, a 2.8 just 0.7 miles from here.

Anything under 3 is tricky. I have felt them, but only when sitting on the floor directly.

mr. klys describes this one as feeling like a truck hit the house. (As opposed to the normal description of a truck driving by.)

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2017 • 11:00:45pm

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

Physically, the creature reminded me of Abe Sapien in the movie Hellboy. And didn’t Abe like eggs too?

Even though I have yet to see it (The Shape of Water hasn’t opened here yet) one hint I gathered from the trailer is that the creature is “from the Amazon, where the locals worshiped him as a god”.

To me, that sounds a hell of a lot like a direct reference to the Gill-Man from The Creature From the Black Lagoon. IIRC, Del Toro was briefly involved in an attempted remake of CFTBL a few years back, but apparently, no one at Universal Studios was interested (much like he’s unfortunately never been able to find much Hollywood interest in making a feature-length film of Lovecraft’s “At The Mountains of Madness” - he’s got a screenplay ready to go and everything).

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austin_blue  Dec 26, 2017 • 11:06:24pm

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

Physically, the creature reminded me of Abe Sapien in the movie Hellboy. And didn’t Abe like eggs too?

Same Director, same actor. Rhyming plot points are often seen in a Director/Writers’ films (GDT co-wrote this one), just for fun.

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austin_blue  Dec 26, 2017 • 11:11:36pm

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

Even though I have yet to see it (The Shape of Water hasn’t opened here yet) one hint I gathered from the trailer is that the creature is “from the Amazon, where the locals worshiped him as a god”.

To me, that sounds a hell of a lot like a direct reference to the Gill-Man from The Creature From the Black Lagoon. IIRC, Del Toro was briefly involved in an attempted remake of CFTBL back a few years back, but apparently, no one at Universal Studios was interested (much like he’s unfortunately never been able to find much Hollywood interest in making a feature-length film of Lovecraft’s “At The Mountains of Madness” - he’s got a screenplay ready to go and everything).

CFTBL was definitely an influence, as was Beauty and the Beast. But he puts so many twists on it that it feels entirely new.

I’ll go ahead and call it:

Sally Hawkins will be nominated for the Oscar as Best Actress, and will also win it. She is just stunning in this role.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 26, 2017 • 11:25:44pm

re: #24 austin_blue

I’ll have to go see it; it opens next month here, as does Coco, the latest animated flick from Pixar, which is getting rave reviews as well.

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austin_blue  Dec 26, 2017 • 11:29:07pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams!

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:07:12am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:09:04am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:09:46am

Israel to Name Western Wall Train Station in Jerusalem After Donald Trump

Decision made following U.S. president’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, Yedioth Ahronoth daily reports.

Fuck me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:08:03am

re: #28 Ace-o-aces

Laughable to think a tape of Trump paying hookers to pee on a bed would change anything. If a tape exists and leaked today, we’d make some memes about it, Paul Ryan would say “It’s not my job to comment on gossip”, Mike Huckabee would gargle piss on Fox News and we’d all move on.

if a pussy grabbing peeping tom did not change things, then peeing hookers would not either.

the only thing that I hope is that his tax returns get subpoenaed - it will also still not be enough to topple him but it would damage him and his party to a great extent and have repercussions on upcoming elections…I assume that is why they are fighting any further investigations tooth and nail.

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:31:26am

Sailor Moon - Koibito ga Santa Claus

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:55:02am

-6º F this morning in Upstate NY. Although this may seem tropical to Anymouse, I have to go out and work in it today.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:00:21am

Heard on the way into work this morning on 102.7 WEQX, kids don’t listen to radio anymore, they got a data plan to burn through.

Royal Blood - I Only Lie When I Love You (Official Video)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:42:42am

re: #10 sagehen

wow. Does he honestly not know that the war was started by the South, to protest Lincoln’s election, even before his inauguration?

Or is he just pretending to not know that?

See what happens when you homeschool kids with TexAss Textbooks?

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:54:09am

So I went out to see Star Wars yesterday and I really, really liked it! Spoiler alert, just a few observations:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:59:39am

re: #10 sagehen

Abraham Lincoln made Vladimir Putin look like an Angel. Lincoln was a tyrant and crony capitalist who imprisoned journalists, conscripted slaves, disobeyed the Supreme Court and started a war over taxes/tarrifs that led to the death of 600K+ Americans.

wow. Does he honestly not know that the war was started by the South, to protest Lincoln’s election, even before his inauguration?

Or is he just pretending to not know that?

Southern revisionism starts with the premise that slavery was not the only cause of the Civil War and then moves on to “slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War”.

Just as alt-right revisionists proceed from the statement “Not every thing the Nazis did was evil” to conclude that “Nazis are just normal next-door-neighbor types”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:22:27am

Lot of Knopfler’s Local Hero in the Kobrin track.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:34:16am

re: #7 allegro

Aaaaand bounced to the home page when I post.

This sounds very similar to what was happening to Teliskiguy

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:48:47am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why the pretense that slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War when the apologists are straight up racists who are okay with slavery in the first place? They’ve shown how they feel about Black and Brown people so we know they’d be perfectly fine with defending slavery.

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jeffreyw  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:49:22am

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Good morning!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:52:34am

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

See what happens when you homeschool kids with TexAss Textbooks?

He’s from Corona, California. My guess is that his historical “knowledge” was acquired from articles on the Internet.

It’s certainly possible that the Civil War was not covered in depth in his schools; either that, or like many Americans, he learned what was needed to pass his classes, and then promptly forgot the lessons entirely.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:53:12am

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

Why the pretense that slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War when the apologists are straight up racists who are okay with slavery in the first place? They’ve shown how they feel about Black and Brown people so we know they’d be perfectly fine with defending slavery.

they are trying to appeal to people who for some reason do not see black slavery as part of God’s natural social order…

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:57:48am

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

Why the pretense that slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War when the apologists are straight up racists who are okay with slavery in the first place? They’ve shown how they feel about Black and Brown people so we know they’d be perfectly fine with defending slavery.

He may realize that the typical teenager doesn’t know anything about history and he’s trying to replace their ignorance with lies. It is far more effective to recruit naifs to your cause than to persuade those who have a real grounding in history to change their views.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:58:13am

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

Why the pretense that slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War when the apologists are straight up racists who are okay with slavery in the first place? They’ve shown how they feel about Black and Brown people so we know they’d be perfectly fine with defending slavery.

Slavery was explicitly the reason for Southern Secession and Insurrection.

It’s right their in their articles of secession. They repeatedly point to their intent to protect the institution of slavery.

Everything else is revisionist history.

This wasn’t the war of Northern Aggression. The first shots were fired by the South. The South broke the covenant of the Union. The South decided that insurrection was the only way they could protect their economy that was slavery based.

Wohl is a white supremacist fucking loon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:38:59am

re: #44 lawhawk

Wohl is a white supremacist fucking loon typical Trump supporter.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:40:25am

Laugh? I thought I’d die.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:42:49am

re: #29 Single-handed sailor

I’ve been doing a bit of digging into this, and it’s misleading to call it Western Wall Station.

The high speed rail train that is being inaugurated April 2018 between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and runs via Ben Gurion Airport doesn’t stop anywhere near the Western Wall.

It ends at the Jerusalem Central Bus Station, which is several miles from the Old City/Western Wall.

It’s still an abomination to consider that Trump’s name will appear on anything in Israel given that Trump equates goddamned Nazis with the people protesting them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:47:18am

re: #47 lawhawk

It’s still an abomination to consider that Trump’s name will appear on anything in Israel given that Trump equates goddamned Nazis with the people protesting them.

Didn’t Netanyahu’s son retweet Nazis? So this isn’t surprising at all.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:52:54am

re: #47 lawhawk

More to the point - this is a vaporware story. It’s a proposed extension of the soon to be completed rail station that currently terminates at the Jerusalem Central Bus Station.

The extension would supposedly extend the high speed rail line to underneath the Cardo.

Let’s just say this is a pipe dream. Orthodox Jewish community would oppose on any number of grounds, and they’re already fighting to shut down the rail service on Shabbat. Then there’s the whole political dimension with the Palestinians and what it would mean to the peace process.

So of course right wingers would push this ahistorical nonsense.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:58:27am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Let’s not forget that Wohl is a teenager. Teenagers are not known for good judgement so it is possible that he may eventually see the light. OTOH, probably not since he is a grifter too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:58:33am

re: #29 Single-handed sailor

Israel to Name Western Wall Train Station in Jerusalem After Donald Trump

Fuck me.

*vomits*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:59:41am

There is the international and diplomatic aspect to Jerusalem

There numerous religious aspects: starting with the native Jewish and Muslim aspects as well as the Christian (and especially fundamentalist) aspect

Then there are the aspects of politicians using Jerusalem to position themselves

Which makes it really difficult to discuss in our current nuance-challenged climate of discourse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:01:01am

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s not forget that Wohl is a teenager. Teenagers are not known for good judgement so it is possible that he may eventually see the light. OTOH, probably not since he is a grifter too.

He has already learned that if he sticks to the established narrative and finds talking points and arguments to support it, that he will gain approval and a following….which he can monetize.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:15:40am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has already learned that if he sticks to the established narrative and finds talking points and arguments to support it, that he will gain approval and a following….which he can monetize.

Now that you mention monetization, are our year-end Soros bonuses going to be taxed at the new rates?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:17:13am

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Now that you mention monetization, are our year-end Soros bonuses going to be taxed at the new rates?

are bitcoins subject to taxation?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:17:14am

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Now that you mention monetization, are our year-end Soros bonuses going to be taxed at the new rates?

I heard we’ll be paid in Bitcoin, or maybe Monero to keep it on the DL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:17:42am

beat you by a bit

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:18:10am

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Now that you mention monetization, are our year-end Soros bonuses going to be taxed at the new rates?

What-you’re on the payroll? Dayum-how did you pull that one off-I’m a freaking 1099’er, on the hook for everything….

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:19:29am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

are bitcoins subject to taxation?

Interesting question, in all seriousness. I believe the IRS considers Bitcoin as a commodity, like gold, so you would need to pay capital gains if you sell Bitcoin for dollars, assuming you turn a profit.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:20:15am

re: #59 wheat-dogg

Interesting question, in all seriousness. I believe the IRS considers Bitcoin as a commodity, like gold, so you would need to pay capital gains if you sell Bitcoin for dollars, assuming you turn a profit.

That’s becoming less and less of a problem.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:21:13am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

beat you by a bit(coin)

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wheat-dogg  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:21:31am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

That’s becoming less and less of a problem.

Certainly true for the last week or so. But the price has rebounded somewhat.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:22:27am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

are bitcoins subject to taxation?

Yes. They are. The IRS guidance on virtual currencies.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:22:47am

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s not forget that Wohl is a teenager. Teenagers are not known for good judgement so it is possible that he may eventually see the light. OTOH, probably not since he is a grifter too.

As evidence of the grifter wiz-kid I give you one Ben Shapiro….

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:24:18am

re: #58 The Major

What-you’re on the payroll? Dayum-how did you pull that one off-I’m a freaking 1099’er, on the hook for everything….

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All I know is that there’s a box of fresh small forint notes on the lawn on the 3rd of every month. I think he uses a drone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:27:45am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

All I know is that there’s a box of fresh small forint notes on the lawn on the 3rd of every month. I think he uses a drone.

or a mole

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Semper Fi  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:30:27am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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What a great pic that is…

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:33:46am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

are bitcoins subject to taxation?

Must be, if any income is not specifically exempt, it’s taxed by at least the Feds, and likely the state, better check with your city and lastly your neighborhood watch. ///

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:36:53am

re: #68 Unshaken Defiance

Must be, if any income is not specifically exempt, it’s taxed by at least the Feds, and likely the state, better check with your city and lastly your neighborhood watch. ///

Just have your bitcoins credited to your satanic cult LLC. First amendment, y’all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:46:24am

re: #68 Unshaken Defiance

Must be, if any income is not specifically exempt, it’s taxed by at least the Feds, and likely the state, better check with your city and lastly your neighborhood watch. ///

it was a rhetorical question: is the whole point of bitcoins not to be able to hide them from fiscal authorities and law enforcement?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:48:23am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it was a rhetorical question: is the whole point of bitcoins not to be able to hide them from fiscal authorities and law enforcement?

If you sell them on a major exchange the sale will be reported. They collect the same info that banks do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:49:40am

re: #71 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If you sell them on a major exchange the sale will be reported. They collect the same info that banks do.

I gathered that, but people often seem to use them to buy things far removed from the usual “exchanges”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:51:51am

shit. shit shit shit.
i was peeling a butternut squash for soup & the peeler slipped & sliced off a piece of thumb.

i’m sitting here with my hand wrapped in paper towel waiting for the bleeding to stop.

should i go to the er? it’s like -eleventy billion degrees outside.

shitshitshitshitshit

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:52:53am

the bathroom sink is full of blood, looks like somebody got murdered in here.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:53:48am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

shit. shit shit shit.
i was peeling a butternut squash for soup & the peeler slipped & sliced off a piece of thumb.

i’m sitting here with my hand wrapped in paper towel waiting for the bleeding to stop.

should i go to the er? it’s like -eleventy billion degrees outside.

shitshitshitshitshit

Ouch! Keep your hand elevated!

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:54:13am

re: #11 jaunte

I’m stealing this. : )

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:55:37am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Heh, yes well I thought that is what gold is for.. No online tracks. Please forgive my tax snark. But as these “currencies” (remember when that was a power only sovereign governments had?) got popular, well known and listed on exchanges, (CBOE) that ship kinda sank. Old rule-As soon as the schnooks can buy in it’s over. Will Bitcoin break that? maybe but I’m wait and see.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:56:46am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

shit. shit shit shit.
i was peeling a butternut squash for soup & the peeler slipped & sliced off a piece of thumb.

i’m sitting here with my hand wrapped in paper towel waiting for the bleeding to stop.

should i go to the er? it’s like -eleventy billion degrees outside.

shitshitshitshitshit

Get that looked at!

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:57:02am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Yes. Go. Even though it always sucks to go to the ER, that is what it is for. Use it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:58:37am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

GO!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:59:23am

Turns out the elderly couple busted here in York, Nebraska taking a bunch of cannabis across the country for “gifts” are the parents of a Vermont prosecutor. His office says he is shocked by all this, but he has nothing to do with this.

burlingtonfreepress.com

Cannabis in small amounts was decriminalised some years ago, but the amount the California couple had doesn’t qualify as small amount. They are charged with possession with intent to distribute.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:00:09am

Well that’s a first. “Butt Slap” as a tag in an LGF Page.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:00:43am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

shit. shit shit shit.
i was peeling a butternut squash for soup & the peeler slipped & sliced off a piece of thumb.

i’m sitting here with my hand wrapped in paper towel waiting for the bleeding to stop.

should i go to the er? it’s like -eleventy billion degrees outside.

shitshitshitshitshit

If it’s bad enough “it looks like someone was murdered in your bathroom,” you probably ought to have it looked at if you cannot stop the bleeding.

Disclaimer: Anymouse is not a doctor and nothing I say should be construed as medical advice.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:02:43am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

VB get some help now. If you lost that much blood you may not have you balance etc. Might pass out. I swear if we were not so far apart I’d send a car.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:02:59am

re: #82 Unshaken Defiance

Well that’s a first. “Butt Slap” as a tag in an LGF Page.

Considering what’s going on with harassment, that will probably get used more frequently as more news comes out about various men (and possibly a few women).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:05:18am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

Turns out the elderly couple busted here in York, Nebraska taking a bunch of cannabis across the country for “gifts” are the parents of a Vermont prosecutor. His office says he is shocked by all this, but he has nothing to do with this.

burlingtonfreepress.com

Cannabis in small amounts was decriminalised some years ago, but the amount the California couple had doesn’t qualify as small amount. They are charged with possession with intent to distribute.

Nice gifts. I need friends like that. No one should be arrested for possession of a much safer, non-addictive, alternative to alcohol.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:06:01am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Ouch… sounds like an urgent care/er visit is a good idea no matter how cold it is. Depending on where the cut on your finger is, medical glue might do the trick, but if you can’t get it to stop, a suture may be required.

Elevate your hand in the meantime while keeping pressure on the cut.

If there’s someone else there with you, have them help you get to the ER/urgent care.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:12:08am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

shit. shit shit shit.
i was peeling a butternut squash for soup & the peeler slipped & sliced off a piece of thumb.

i’m sitting here with my hand wrapped in paper towel waiting for the bleeding to stop.

should i go to the er? it’s like -eleventy billion degrees outside.

shitshitshitshitshit

If you have an urgent care center close by I would go there instead. A lot easier on the pocketbook than the ER. Either way, get it looked at/treated.

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:13:51am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Get thee to Urgent Care STAT….

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:14:20am

re: #86 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Nice gifts. I need friends like that. No one should be arrested for possession of a much safer, non-addictive, alternative to alcohol.

Well, making it legal would help. I suppose transporting a crapload of alcohol would get you in trouble as well.

Nebraska cannabis busts went way up after Colorado made it legal, but that might be due to more patrolling rather than Colorado’s law.

Testimony given in the Unicameral after decriminalisation for small amounts showed different counties enforced the law differently: Some counties are very strict while other counties emphasise not prosecuting for minor infractions.

The counties that border Colorado all strictly enforce the law. That said, York County is a couple hundred miles from Colorado. The couple was pulled over for a traffic violation and the cops noted the strong smell of maryjane from the bed of their truck.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:19:04am

Wow, between the party puritans and this attitude, I worry about the mid terms.
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“I don’t believe that it’s in the Democratic Party’s interest to pursue, to seriously pursue impeachment of Donald Trump,” he said.

Um ‘scuse me but it’s the country that’s important.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:19:13am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this doesn’t bode well…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:23:34am

re: #93 Unshaken Defiance

Wow, between the party puritans and this attitude, I worry about the mid terms.
politico.com

Um ‘scuse me but it’s the country that’s important.

It would get us President Pence, for starters

It is important as heck that Trump’s business connections be brought to light in connection with the role they play in his political decision making.

whether or not that gets him run out of office, I still think that releasing his tax records will have a serious effect on how effectively he governs and how his party does in upcoming elections

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:24:04am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Hopefully you have already left for the ER or an urgent care center. If you haven’t, GO THERE NOW!

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I cannot.  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:24:15am

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

We can set up ski ramps starting from the tops of buildings in Chicago.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:26:04am

If you can wonder if you have to go to the ER, you have to go to the ER.

You may call that a “Rule of Thumb”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:26:21am

climate science is real rocket science, so many minor variables that have far-reaching consequences.

Which is why we should fire all qualified climate research people and replace them with ones who respect the official White House version of things…

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:27:02am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

I heard we’ll be paid in Bitcoin, or maybe Monero to keep it on the DL.

BTW, is Bitcoin still collapsing or did it stabilize? I was all about family and entertainment this weekend.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:28:10am

LOL, a comment on another blog:

You want to know how cold it is? The Jehovah’s Witnesses are telemarketing today.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:28:14am

re: #98 I cannot.

We can set up ski ramps starting from the tops of buildings in Chicago.

I’m trying to imagine a ski jump starting from the top of the Sears Building, say the observation deck. The thought leaves me unable to know whether to curl up in a fetal position in the corner whimpering or simply crouch at the porcelain throne and lose my breakfast.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:29:32am

re: #98 I cannot.

We can set up ski ramps starting from the tops of buildings in Chicago.

So far we really haven’t gotten that much snow in the Windy City. Hopefully we’ll escape the onslaught. But it is somewhat cool — single digits yesterday and today, but tomorrow it should be double digits, just in time for some snow.

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I cannot.  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:29:56am

re: #103 William Lewis

Not a jump, a winding route starting from there, and anchored to shorter buildings.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:31:51am

re: #93 Unshaken Defiance

Wow, between the party puritans and this attitude, I worry about the mid terms.
politico.com

Um ‘scuse me but it’s the country that’s important.

I’m not much of a fan of the sometimes right-leaning Politico.

As for impeachments, how many bills were filed over President Nixon? About ten? (Some before Watergate, such as the illegal Cambodia bombing campaign.)

Impeachment bills keep the issue in front of the public. It was a pending impeachment that finally got Nixon to resign.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:32:56am

re: #105 I cannot.

Not a jump, a winding route starting from there, and anchored to shorter buildings.

Oh. Then do it right like the Skyway in Minneapolis…

The Replacements - Skyway

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:33:20am

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this doesn’t bode well…

Sounds like we are in this cold spell for the rest of this week and into the weekend.

Brrr.

And I hope VB is on her way to an urgent care or ER.

I saw some of the crew saying she should elevate her hand (above her heart, preferably).

It is also good to wrap some ice cubes in a towel and place them around the cut…it helps the coagulation.

And not to gross anyone out, but if some skin was cut off, take it with you to the ER just in case it can be saved and glued back on, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:34:42am

finger injuries really creep me out. I can watch movies where entire limbs get hacked off and it is not half as skin-crawling for me as watching anything happen with hands or fingers…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:35:52am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Well, making it legal would help. I suppose transporting a crapload of alcohol would get you in trouble as well.

Nebraska cannabis busts went way up after Colorado made it legal, but that might be due to more patrolling rather than Colorado’s law.

Testimony given in the Unicameral after decriminalisation for small amounts showed different counties enforced the law differently: Some counties are very strict while other counties emphasise not prosecuting for minor infractions.

The counties that border Colorado all strictly enforce the law. That said, York County is a couple hundred miles from Colorado. The couple was pulled over for a traffic violation and the cops noted the strong smell of maryjane from the bed of their truck.

They didn’t properly package it. Massive amounts of pot are delivered by the USPS every day in well-sealed packages, and nobody notices.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:37:56am

re: #101 Big Beautiful Door

BTW, is Bitcoin still collapsing or did it stabilize? I was all about family and entertainment this weekend.

Ups and downs. It’s down from yesterday.
worldcoinindex.com

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:39:14am

Here’s hoping VB is at Urgent Care already.

OT: this is really fascinating! Painting with Fire. It didn’t sound like that much until I watched the video.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:40:02am

re: #111 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Ups and downs. It’s down from yesterday.
worldcoinindex.com

also keep in mind that a shift of of 3% would be considered highly volatile for a national currency, but since Bitcoins are purely speculative, that is just par for the course.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:40:46am

re: #93 Unshaken Defiance

Wow, between the party puritans and this attitude, I worry about the mid terms.
politico.com

Um ‘scuse me but it’s the country that’s important.

They’re in the minority, so the effort would get them precisely nowhere at this time. (And success at this time would give us President Pence.) After the midterms the Democrats have a good chance of regaining the House, and an impeachment twofer would give us a Democratic president. Also, the evidence for impeaching the VP now isn’t here yet.

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jeffreyw  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:42:59am

re: #110 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They didn’t properly package it. Massive amounts of pot are delivered by the USPS every day in well-sealed packages, and nobody notices.

Um.. got any packaging tips? Asking for a friend…

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:44:19am

re: #115 gocart mozart

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ThomasLite  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:44:47am

re: #116 jeffreyw

Um.. got any packaging tips? Asking for a friend…

I’m fairly sure those food vacuum sealing home appliances get used about ten times more for ‘herb’ than for actual herbs, if you’re looking for a good start.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:45:05am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love how Imani is able to come back with the quick jabs and still be elegant, humorous and classy. Love her. It’s got to be exhausting having to answer clueless folks like Oates.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:45:10am

re: #114 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

They’re in the minority, so the effort would get them precisely nowhere at this time. (And success at this time would give us President Pence.) After the midterms the Democrats have a good chance of regaining the House, and an impeachment twofer would give us a Democratic president. Also, the evidence for impeaching the VP now isn’t here yet.

At this point Trump has probably done all the damage he can. The rest, judicial nominations and such, would be no better, and perhaps worse, under Pence.

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garzooma  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:46:12am

re: #93 Unshaken Defiance

“I don’t believe that it’s in the Democratic Party’s interest to pursue, to seriously pursue impeachment of Donald Trump,” he said.

If Obama had fired Comey to stop an investigation, the Republicans would be talking about nothing else.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:47:34am

re: #118 ThomasLite

I’m fairly sure those food vacuum sealing home appliances get used about ten times more for ‘herb’ than for actual herbs, if you’re looking for a good start.

Yep, vacuum sealed, and in heat sealed packages like electronic parts are shipped in.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:49:00am

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this doesn’t bode well…

This is global warming in action. The know nothings will point to the snow and claim how can it be global warming if it’s snowing.

They ignore that if the lakes aren’t freezing, then the cold air sweeping over it picks up the moisture and deposits it downwind - and it continues to pump out the snow until either it warms up or the winds abate/change direction.

Higher temperatures means more moisture is in the atmosphere.
Higher temps also means more energy in the water/air, so more aggressive storms/currents too.

All this feeds into more extreme weather.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:49:12am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

At this point Trump has probably done all the damage he can. The rest, judicial nominations and such, would be no better, and perhaps worse, under Pence.

I would say that Trump can still do a lot of damage eroding democratic norms, destroying our global relationships, possibly blundering into war, and doing Dog knows what for bribes or due to blackmail.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:50:03am

re: #114 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Couldn’t Pence be impeached for okaying Flynn as the NSA despite his dealings with Russia? Pence was warned about Flynn by the Obama administration before “vetting” him for a high level security position with the Trump regime. That should be enough to bring him down along with Trump.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:50:47am

After waiting 20+ days for my 3D printer to arrive from China, Gearbest issued me a partial refund of my payment less $30. I’m very annoyed. I bought a lot of filament that I planned to use with this printer, so I’m locked into getting a 3D printer, but not at the black friday price I paid for this one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:51:11am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Couldn’t Pence be impeached for okaying Flynn as the NSA despite his dealings with Russia? Pence was warned about Flynn by the Obama administration before “vetting” him for a high level security position with the Trump regime. That should be enough to bring him down along with Trump.

Pence gets impeached, then we get President Paul Ryan…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:53:20am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence gets impeached, then we get President Paul Ryan…

Maybe not if it happens after the 2018 election.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:53:47am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right. We’re screwed. But if the House and Senate flip, he doesn’t get to pass any further legislation so that’s the upside of all this.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:53:58am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

At this point Trump has probably done all the damage he can. The rest, judicial nominations and such, would be no better, and perhaps worse, under Pence.

Not that I want to test this, but Pence might want competent people in Cabinet positions. If they’re competent evil people, that could cause a lot more damage. On the other, international hand, he might cool off the NK situation, and maybe others (just silencing the Twitter logorrhea would help).

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:54:07am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

At this point Trump has probably done all the damage he can. The rest, judicial nominations and such, would be no better, and perhaps worse, under Pence.

Vice-President Pence isn’t out of the woods yet … especially since it was Flynn that promoted him to Donald Trump for the VP slot.

Pence also has his E-mail scandal back in Indiana.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:55:39am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Couldn’t Pence be impeached for okaying Flynn as the NSA despite his dealings with Russia? Pence was warned about Flynn by the Obama administration before “vetting” him for a high level security position with the Trump regime. That should be enough to bring him down along with Trump.

Sure, once the investigation is completed and the case built. Not yet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:55:40am

The morning paper here has a front-page photo of our Winter Wonderland … Scott’s Bluff National Monument covered in snow… .

starherald.com

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:57:04am

re: #126 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

After waiting 20+ days for my 3D printer to arrive from China, Gearbest issued me a partial refund of my payment less $30. I’m very annoyed. I bought a lot of filament that I planned to use with this printer, so I’m locked into getting a 3D printer, but not at the black friday price I paid for this one.

End-of-year sales are coming. Patience.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:57:05am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

Couldn’t Pence be impeached for okaying Flynn as the NSA despite his dealings with Russia? Pence was warned about Flynn by the Obama administration before “vetting” him for a high level security position with the Trump regime. That should be enough to bring him down along with Trump.

If Democrats control the House, they could impeach him. But that’s nowhere near enough to get a bunch of GOP Senators to vote to remove Pence from office.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:57:21am

re: #124 Big Beautiful Door

I would say that Trump can still do a lot of damage eroding democratic norms, destroying our global relationships, possibly blundering into war, and doing Dog knows what for bribes or due to blackmail.

Pence can be expected to do the same, with an overlayer of sticky piety.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:57:42am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still not writing articles about Clinton voters (that would be the majority) … sigh.

Hey, CBS. Come and interview me. Only eight people in my township voted for Hillary Clinton out of hundreds of Trump voters. Why aren’t you asking us how we feel about all this?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:58:06am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 8:59:29am

re: #136 Big Beautiful Door

True because we’d need 2/3rds of Senators to vote to impeach Trump so the Senate would have to flip big time to the Dems for that to happen.

senate.gov

Trump is forcing me to become educated on civic matters. Sigh.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:01:05am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

In fairness, Obama remained popular throughout his Presidency, unlike the current incumbent. (So no “despite… they still” stories were needed.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:01:54am

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Pence can be expected to do the same, with an overlayer of sticky piety.

I’m not sure that Pence has the same level of comfort with engaging in utter criminal corruption as Trump does. Its Trump’s business model. Plus actually getting enough GOP Senators to vote to remove Trump from office would fracture the GOP base and leave Pence as the lamest of ducks placeholding the rump of Trump’s term.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:02:05am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still firmly believe worrying about Pence is not a good reason to hesitate to remove Trump. He can be hamstrung pending the next election. Marginalized if we could take both houses.

I do agree Politico is terribly uneven in quality.

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:03:27am

It’s gunhumper Santa!

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:03:50am

re: #114 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Well, in terms of ideology, legislative goals, nominations, etc. it’s hard to see where a President Pence might do worse than Trump: at least, Mike Dense might not want to make the whole Administration over into an ass-kissing personality cult (that paucity of “personality” would be a main factor): at least with a Democratic Congress (or at least a Senate Majority - even if slim) there’s a chance that some of the worst executive/judicial nominees might get rejected. Though, as has been repeatedly pointed out: Trump has already done a great of damage: which, unfortunately, will probably require a Democratic President to put right.

And btw, as for impeachment: barring the revelation of some truly heinous wrongdoing on The Donald’s part (and not even then, I’m afraid) - I think it’s a wishful-thinking fantasy to imagine that, in 2018 (?), enough Senate Republicans would be willing to risk their careers donations to vote out the Moron-In-Chief. But who knows…..

PS: I noticed VB hasn’t posted in an hour: hopefully she’s on her way to (or better yet, at) an ER to get that finger seen to. My advice (“go and go NOW!!!”) would have been based on experience: I once had a kitchen-based wouldn’t-stop-bleeding finger injury: the ER doc was able to sew it up so as to heal properly: always best to leave these things to someone who knows what they’re doing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:04:03am

re: #135 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

End-of-year sales are coming. Patience.

I was having a hard time being patient enough to wait a month for delivery from China, when I’m used to 2-day from Amazon, but I will take your advice. I may take it as an opportunity to get a smaller printer with dual extruders at a similar price to the big one I’d ordered.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:04:35am

re: #141 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

In fairness, Obama remained popular throughout his Presidency, unlike the current incumbent. (So no “despite… they still” stories were needed.

He did not remain popular with a lot of people because he didn’t magically fix everything.
Look at the difference in 2008 vs 2012 vote totals.
Hell, Bernie Sanders wanted Obama primaried in 2012, and a lot of people agreed.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:05:28am

Looks like Says Who Cohen’s got a problem here.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:06:35am

Joy Villa has filed sexual assault charges against Corey Lewandowski. She says he slapped her butt twice at a Trump Campaign event.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:06:50am

re: #145 Jay C

The threat from Pence is that he knows the mechanisms of government. Trump is attenuated a good bit by his utter amateurism. The boy keeps walking into walls.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:10:13am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

The threat from Pence is that he knows the mechanisms of government. Trump is attenuated a good bit by his utter amateurism. The boy keeps walking into walls.

Pence won’t be able to get any legislation passed if the Democrats win control of either House of Congress (a necessary precursor, I think, to impeaching Trump). And the people Trump has put in charge of deconstructing the executive branch like Pruitt and Mulvaney certainly know what they are doing, even if Trump doesn’t.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:10:19am

re: #148 makeitstop

Looks like Says Who Cohen’s got a problem here.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:12:58am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

He did not remain popular with a lot of people because he didn’t magically fix everything.
Look at the difference in 2008 vs 2012 vote totals.
Hell, Bernie Sanders wanted Obama primaried in 2012, and a lot of people agreed.

Sure, but he never came close to DT’s low 30’s and trending downward.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:14:37am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Right. We’re screwed. But if the House and Senate flip, he doesn’t get to pass any further legislation so that’s the upside of all this.

Ummm, that’s not the whole problem, Patricia: even assuming that Congress flips Dem in 2019, the fact is that (realistically speaking) the President is still going to be a Republican - either Trump or Pence. And still have that veto pen to wield. Not that a steady stream of vetoes of popular legislation would be a positive factor for the GOP going into the 2020 Presidential election….

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:15:29am

re: #144 plansbandc

I’m surprised no one’s gotten to it with a pellet gun. It needs deflating.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:16:32am

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Trump now blaming Sessions for the loss in the Alabama special election, noting if Sessions hadn’t vacated his seat, there would not have been an election.

Clueless doesn’t begin to describe the orange flotation device at Mar-a-Lago.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:17:12am

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:17:24am

re: #145 Jay C

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PS: I noticed VB hasn’t posted in an hour: hopefully she’s on her way to (or better yet, at) an ER to get that finger seen to. My advice (“go and go NOW!!!”) would have been based on experience: I once had a kitchen-based wouldn’t-stop-bleeding finger injury: the ER doc was able to sew it up so as to heal properly: always best to leave these things to someone who knows what they’re doing.

This will be a week old tomorrow:

And if your boss ever cuts himself, when he gets back he hovers over all knifework like a hungry pest. As though YOU were the one who needs watching.

He got a tiny graft on his finger. But it was a carrot.

If you need a graft, you need an ER. Only your doctor knows for sure.

{{{VB and all her digits}}}

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:18:00am

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:18:05am

re: #119 Patricia Kayden

I love how Imani is able to come back with the quick jabs and still be elegant, humorous and classy. Love her. It’s got to be exhausting having to answer clueless folks like Oates.

She also must be pretty sick of white people telling her that she’s the racist.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:18:11am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

msn.com

Trump now blaming Sessions for the loss in the Alabama special election, noting if Sessions hadn’t vacated his seat, there would not have been an election.

Clueless doesn’t begin to describe the orange flotation device at Mar-a-Lago.

Y.
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M.!!!!!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:18:47am

Speaking of flipping the House, Swing Left just sent me a fundraising appeal — first ever. If you have a few coins to spare, this is a good place to put them (as I mentioned earlier, they’ve been working in red districts all this year and will be doing more as the midterms draw nearer).

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:20:54am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

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Trump now blaming Sessions for the loss in the Alabama special election, noting if Sessions hadn’t vacated his seat, there would not have been an election.

Clueless doesn’t begin to describe the orange flotation device at Mar-a-Lago.

“What? You say I nominated him? Fake news! Didn’t, didn’t, didn’t either’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:21:39am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:25:26am

re: #151 Big Beautiful Door

Pence won’t be able to get any legislation passed if the Democrats win control of either House of Congress (a necessary precursor, I think, to impeaching Trump). And the people Trump has put in charge of deconstructing the executive branch like Pruitt and Mulvaney certainly know what they are doing, even if Trump doesn’t.

That was the point of the Nixon impeachment bills. Initially, the Democrats did not have momentum or a majority in either house. The point was to highlight the alleged criminal activity and abuse of power even before Watergate.

The GOP got on board precisely when they suffered a bloodbath in special elections (including Ford’s safe Republican seat flipping to the Democrats). That bloodbath is happening now in special elections.

For those who aren’t part of the nihilist caucus in the GOP and just want to strip the country for parts and leave it on cinder blocks, they will come around.

You don’t need a majority of the GOP to press for impeachments, just enough to pass it.

This is looking amazingly like Watergate in the way it’s playing out, the difference being the break in of the DNC was done in real life in 1972, and over the Internet this time round.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:27:01am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:30:43am

re: #164 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Speaking of flipping the House, Swing Left just sent me a fundraising appeal — first ever. If you have a few coins to spare, this is a good place to put them (as I mentioned earlier, they’ve been working in red districts all this year and will be doing more as the midterms draw nearer).

Swing Left tells me on their Website my nearest swing district is CO-6.

I would rather donate to the candidate that takes on Adrian Smith in NE-3 (my own district). Even if the candidate has no chance of winning against Mr. Smith, I want Mr. Smith to actually come campaign in his district.

If no one stands up here to run, I’ll do it myself.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:32:05am

re: #165 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

“What? You say I nominated him? Fake news! Didn’t, didn’t, didn’t either’

No, you did! You did!

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:32:08am

re: #143 Unshaken Defiance

I still firmly believe worrying about Pence is not a good reason to hesitate to remove Trump. He can be hamstrung pending the next election. Marginalized if we could take both houses.

I do agree Politico is terribly uneven in quality.

That has been my thinking.

Pence being the excuser he is would be seen as damaged goods.

And to hurt him further, get the people of Indiana to explain that he was on his way out as a politician in his own state. They hated him.

And I am not sure, but I get a feeling Pence really isn’t all that liked by all of the Republicans. He is such a do-gooder he probably is a pain in the ass to be around.

We have to paint the whole party as being Trump. That includes Ryan and McConnell and the Freedom Caucus bozos. All need to be seen as facilitating Trump and helping ruin the country.

The word Republican needs to be made toxic. The current approval polls of congress and Trump are all on our side.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:39:26am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

msn.com

Trump now blaming Sessions for the loss in the Alabama special election, noting if Sessions hadn’t vacated his seat, there would not have been an election.

Clueless doesn’t begin to describe the orange flotation device at Mar-a-Lago.

And people wonder how you can get Republicans to boot Trump.

The fact that he is a complete ass to everyone in his own party and blames everything on others is a start. Once the Republicans figure out he is not needed and damages the party further they can turn on him.

Trump has no friends.

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:40:30am

Some time back “we” were talking on here about Elon Musk’s Big Battery to back up power in South Australia. Evidently working as promised! Damn!

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garzooma  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:44:34am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

This is looking amazingly like Watergate in the way it’s playing out, the difference being the break in of the DNC was done in real life in 1972, and over the Internet this time round.

“Over the Internet” for now. If Trump is allowed to squash investigations into crimes on his behalf, there’s no reason for the Russians not add break-ins, or even murders to their toolkit.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:46:00am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

Swing Left tells me on their Website my nearest swing district is CO-6.

I would rather donate to the candidate that takes on Adrian Smith in NE-3 (my own district). Even if the candidate has no chance of winning against Mr. Smith, I want Mr. Smith to actually come campaign in his district.

If no one stands up here to run, I’ll do it myself.

If you do, I’ll make sure to contribute. And we can both scream at the DSA & DNC to support you.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:46:18am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JFC

Easy pickings. You want hits, readers and comments? Do something on Clinton. It is guaranteed attention.

I know one thing, I wouldn’t want to be at a New Years party with any of those idiots in the video. Smug assholes, all.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:47:23am

re: #173 ObserverArt

The word Republican needs to be made toxic. The current approval polls of congress and Trump are all on our side.

Couldn’t agree with you more about the first point. But I can’t disagree more about the second. The value of “approval polls” tends to range between zero and diddly-squat when it comes to actual voter preferences (still less actual voting). For instance, “Congressional Republicans”, as a category, usually have approval ratings down there with STDs; yet they still have a huge majority in the House, and (despite the thin margin) control of the Senate. Actually translating poor approval-ratings into solid electoral gains is an uphill trudge: one can only hope that the Opposition can manage it next year….

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Sir John Barron  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:49:15am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

msn.com

Trump now blaming Sessions for the loss in the Alabama special election, noting if Sessions hadn’t vacated his seat, there would not have been an election.

Clueless doesn’t begin to describe the orange flotation device at Mar-a-Lago.

But GOP is 5-0 in congressional elections since I’m president, media won’t tell! 5-0!!! Landslide!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:50:40am

re: #165 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

“What? You say I nominated him? Fake news! Didn’t, didn’t, didn’t either’

Another great job by Obama and Hillary, making Sessions quit Senate, take cabinet post.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:53:08am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

Joy Villa has filed sexual assault charges against Corey Lewandowski. She says he slapped her butt twice at a Trump Campaign event.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:53:14am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

Despite poor approval ratings, President Trump remains profoundly popular among white working-class voters cbsnews.com pic.twitter.com

— CBS News

There’s something about this headline, I just can’t put my finger on it, something….

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:53:25am

re: #179 William Lewis

If you do, I’ll make sure to contribute. And we can both scream at the DSA & DNC to support you.

Put Anymouse in Your House. (Potential campaign sign.)

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:53:27am

re: #176 retired cynic

Some time back “we” were talking on here about Elon Musk’s Big Battery to back up power in South Australia. Evidently working as promised! Damn!

VERY cool! And, even more impressively, he did it in the 100 days promised (so presumably got paid). Now all he has to do is try to get the Tesla production lines moving at the same pace….

PS: Cynic: the Washington Post site has a paywall: a free report is HERE

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:54:13am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

Swing Left tells me on their Website my nearest swing district is CO-6.

I would rather donate to the candidate that takes on Adrian Smith in NE-3 (my own district). Even if the candidate has no chance of winning against Mr. Smith, I want Mr. Smith to actually come campaign in his district.

If no one stands up here to run, I’ll do it myself.

Most of us live a lot closer to the nearest swing district, and Swing Left is an appropriate choice for “our” grassroots organization. If you’re interested, Sister District might be something to consider, as they’re focusing more on red states. (They don’t seem to have anything active in NE yet, but they’re recruiting. And they can’t do a thing without local people to do it.)

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:54:15am

re: #181 Jay C

Couldn’t agree with you more about the first point. But I can’t disagree more about the second. The value of “approval polls” tends to range between zero and diddly-squat when it comes to actual voter preferences (still less actual voting). For instance, “Congressional Republicans”, as a category, usually have approval ratings down there with STDs; yet they still have a huge majority in the House, and (despite the thin margin) control of the Senate. Actually translating poor approval-ratings into solid electoral gains is an uphill trudge: one can only hope that the Opposition can manage it next year….

We are in different times with Trump and this group of Republicans. Ordinarily you may be right. This is not ordinary.

Can you name one time in the past where the Republicans have done things like kill healthcare and mess with taxes while both were not wanted by even their own party backers?

Add in so much Trump regret and those low approval polls take on a different meaning.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:55:01am

re: #184 lawhawk

Amazing reading Fox news comments. Nearly all are attacking the alleged victim claiming she’s a liar, isn’t a true Trump supporter, etc.

Her politics is quite besides the point.

Lewandowski has history of treating women badly. That’s the point.

— lawhawk

A true Trump supporter would shrug it off, take it as a compliment, all for the good of the cause of sticking it to the Libs.

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Skip Intro  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:55:17am

re: #175 ObserverArt

And people wonder how you can get Republicans to boot Trump.

The fact that he is a complete ass to everyone in his own party and blames everything on others is a start. Once the Republicans figure out he is not needed and damages the party further they can turn on him.

Trump has no friends.

Pro golfers seem to like him which is why I no longer play golf.

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electrotek  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:57:05am

Speaking of handwriting, is it on par to have your handwriting quality decrease as you are more reliant on keyboards and touch screens?

I’m struggling with my handwriting, I have realized.

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:57:13am

re: #187 Jay C

VERY cool! And, even more impressively, he did it in the 100 days promised (so presumably got paid). Now all he has to do is try to get the Tesla production lines moving at the same pace….

PS: Cynic: the Washington Post site has a paywall: a free report is HERE

I know. I pay. smile

Quite the NYT, though. Tired of sending them money for some the crap they were putting out, even if much of what they published was good and worth reading.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:58:23am

re: #192 Skip Intro

Pro golfers seem to like him which is why I no longer play golf.

Do they really like him or are they like everyone else that fakes it…out to get something out of him?

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:58:45am

re: #152 Ace-o-aces

Wait? Are you saying that someone involved in the New York real-estate business is associated with mobsters?! I am SHOCKED sir, SHOCKED!

Hard to believe, I know.
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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:58:46am

re: #193 electrotek

Speaking of handwriting, is it on par to have your handwriting quality decrease as you are more reliant on keyboards and touch screens?

I’m struggling with my handwriting, I have realized.

Use it or lose it….

I stopped with cursive years ago because I could barely read it. My signature could be interchangeable with a doctor’s. Nearly all of my communications with folks is via computer: emails, etc. Only time I have to write something longhand is various cards - birthdays, anniversaries, etc.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:58:48am

re: #175 ObserverArt

And people wonder how you can get Republicans to boot Trump.

The fact that he is a complete ass to everyone in his own party and blames everything on others is a start. Once the Republicans figure out he is not needed and damages the party further they can turn on him.

Trump has no friends.

Except his hard-core base, which sticks to him like glue, and makes the difference between defeat and victory in a lot of districts. If the Repubs abandon him, that group likely to abandon the Repubs, at least to the extent of not bothering to vote. A magnificent dilemma for the party.

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:59:01am

re: #196 ObserverArt

Do they really like him or are they like everyone else that fakes it…out to get something out of him?

In that case, they are just a bunch of dishonest suck-ups.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:01:20am

re: #200 retired cynic

In that case, they are just a bunch of dishonest suck-ups.

In case you hadn’t noticed, and I know you have, I think there is a lot of that going on in DC and around the country these days.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:06:12am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:07:30am

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I certainly hope so.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:12:49am

re: #193 electrotek

Speaking of handwriting, is it on par to have your handwriting quality decrease as you are more reliant on keyboards and touch screens?

I’m struggling with my handwriting, I have realized.

My handwriting is nearly perfect Palmer Method cursive. It hasn’t suffered from computer usage.

I’m not sure why that is … lots of people around here tell me “you write like a girl (?)” when they take a cheque from me.

It might be because I frequently write handwritten letters and mail them to family and friends.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:14:29am

re: #198 lawhawk

Use it or lose it….

I stopped with cursive years ago because I could barely read it. My signature could be interchangeable with a doctor’s. Nearly all of my communications with folks is via computer: emails, etc. Only time I have to write something longhand is various cards - birthdays, anniversaries, etc.

My handwriting changed a lot when I became a draftsman. 95% of my writing is in ALL CAPS now. People tend to appreciate my writing when I’m filling out forms and no one has accused me of SHOUTING at them. It’s getting a bit more free form as I get older - notes that I write to myself can be close to illegible for anyone else.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:15:56am

re: #184 lawhawk

Republican voters only believe sexual harassment claims aimed at Democratic/left leaning men. They didn’t believe Moore’s accusers. They don’t believe Trump’s accusers. It’s not surprising at all that they are going after Villa. Given her outspoken support of Trump, her career is probably going to suffer because of this since I assume only rightwingers buy her albums. To be honest, I’d never heard about her until she wore that awful Trump dress to the Grammy’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:16:57am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

My handwriting is nearly perfect Palmer Method cursive. It hasn’t suffered from computer usage.

I’m not sure why that is … lots of people around here tell me “you write like a girl (?)” when they take a cheque from me.

It might be because I frequently write handwritten letters and mail them to family and friends.

I write things down to help memorize them. song lyrics. I cannot learn them if I just print out the lyrics from the screen.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:17:21am

Just got NYE plans for the first time in several years (normally we’re up in Tahoe skiing). Going to see Maceo Parker with friends. Gonna get our funk on.

Maceo Parker - Make it funky

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:17:27am
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And we all know the pundits who do this kind of crap: folks like Cillizza and other guys who have no problem with losers like Bernie sticking around, but demand Hillary exit stage left.

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sagehen  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:19:24am

re: #136 Big Beautiful Door

If Democrats control the House, they could impeach him. But that’s nowhere near enough to get a bunch of GOP Senators to vote to remove Pence from office.

If they start by having the Ways & Means committee release his tax returns, show how he’s enriched himself with emoluments, show how the tax bill was narrowly constructed deliberately to benefit him above all others… his support will collapse.

Then they can do almost anything.

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darthstar  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:20:12am

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Hey, Melania got 1%…that counts for something.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:21:08am

Re: Golfers liking Trump

A lot of pro golfers are relatively well off white guys. Golf clubs and green fees ain’t cheap.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:21:32am

Lefty site CounterPunch accused of racist practices in addition to sexism:

meldungen-aus-dem-exil.noblogs.org (somewhat long)

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:22:28am

re: #210 lawhawk

That’s why Democrats can’t listen to the MSM and its idiotic rage against Secretary Clinton (and President Clinton) which has been raging for decades. I’m especially furious with the NYT’s coverage of Mrs. Clinton during the election cycle. How many times did we have to read about the nonsense email “scandal”? There were so many important issues to cover when it came to the policies Secretary Clinton was promoting. Sigh.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:22:48am

re: #203 TedStriker

As a Tennessean, I love that Phil Bredesen is running for Corker’s seat; he’s got the best shot out of any Democrats that could have gone for it. Having had two terms apiece as mayor of Nashville (my city) and as governor and that he was fairly popular and very competent in both positions, he’s definitely got name recognition, but the question is: is that enough to overcome the seemingly increasing reddening and polarization of the state, even since he was governor seven years ago?

I certainly hope so.

If Alabama can elect a Democrat, so can Tennessee!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:23:23am

Why exactly is the media trying so hard to get me to feel sorry for Trump voters?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:23:57am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

Why exactly is the media trying so hard to get me to feel sorry for Trump voters?

Access.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:24:06am

re: #209 darthstar

Just got NYE plans for the first time in several years (normally we’re up in Tahoe skiing). Going to see Maceo Parker with friends. Gonna get our funk on.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:24:59am

re: #211 sagehen

If they start by having the Ways & Means committee release his tax returns, show how he’s enriched himself with emoluments, show how the tax bill was narrowly constructed deliberately to benefit him above all others… his support will collapse.

Then they can do almost anything.

Are you referring to Trump or Pence?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:25:28am

re: #184 lawhawk

She’s a scientology cult recruiter, so I’m hoping there’s some way they can both lose.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:27:14am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

From the sort of material shared from CounterPunch in left-leaning circles on Facebook, one could easily get the impression that it is a left media outlet that only occasionally publishes voices from the right. In reality, however, CounterPunch offers a very steady diet of white supremacist and other reactionary authors.

To ascertain the number of white supremacist vs. leftist authors published on CP [CounterPunch], I did Google searches using the search term site:counterpunch.org “by [AUTHOR NAME]”, with no time restriction, disregarding the inevitable repetitions and uses of the phrase other than in by-lines.

For the white supremacists, a list of prominent white supremacist authors was used, including Gilad Atzmon, Mary Rizzo, Israel Shamir, and Jeff Blankfort, known for their racist conspiracism and holocaust denial, white nationalist and Reagan-era US Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts, Alison Weir of If Americans Knew, Bill and Kathleen Christison, and Franklin Lamb.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:27:52am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

Why exactly is the media trying so hard to get me to feel sorry for Trump voters?

Great question. It’s scary how they exert so much energy to pump up Trump supporters while failing to expose them for the dangerous bigots many of them actually are. Trump gave us more than enough evidence of his racism, sexism and xenophobia prior to last November. The fact that so many Americans voted for him despite his bigotry and lack of demeanor and experience should be the focus of the MSM. I don’t care that those who voted for this jerk still support him. So what?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:29:39am

re: #223 Patricia Kayden

Great question. It’s scary how they exert so much energy to pump up Trump supporters while failing to expose them for the dangerous bigots many of them actually are. Trump gave us more than enough evidence of his racism, sexism and xenophobia prior to last November. The fact that so many Americans voted for him despite his bigotry and lack of demeanor and experience should be the focus of the MSM. I don’t care that those who voted for this jerk still support him. So what?

Still waiting for CNN to come interview this lonely liberal deep in the heart of Trump Country (tm, sm, marca registrada). Eight whole people voted for Hillary Clinton here in my township, surely there’s a story here …

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:30:08am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

My handwriting is nearly perfect Palmer Method cursive. It hasn’t suffered from computer usage.

I’m not sure why that is … lots of people around here tell me “you write like a girl (?)” when they take a cheque from me.

It might be because I frequently write handwritten letters and mail them to family and friends.

I get that a lot too, though I am not quite as good as I used to be. It is a practice thing.

I blame the nuns. And being artistic, I think I took forming the letters as best I could as a challenge.

I also used to be able to print letters like a cartoonist or draftsman. I’m not as good as I used to be that way either, but if I take my time I can still be pretty good.

I still write notes and song lyrics and the like in print style.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:31:05am

Can’t start my truck in the cold. Trying to call the local bus service for a ride to work. Bleah.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:31:17am

re: #223 Patricia Kayden

The fact that so many Americans voted for him despite his bigotry and lack of demeanor and experience should be the focus of the MSM.

He ran as the anti-politician. That very lack of experience and demeanor were seen as a plus by enough voters to get him a win in the EC.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:32:12am

re: #221 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She’s a scientology cult recruiter, so I’m hoping there’s some way they can both lose.

In regards to this particular sexual assault charge, I hope she wins, because that would redound to the benefit of all women.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:32:29am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He ran as the anti-politician. That very lack of experience and demeanor were seen as a plus by enough voters to get him a sin in the EC.

Heh. I think you mean “win”, but it works either way….

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:32:50am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

The total number of publications by representatives of the racist Right numbers 674, or more than double the total number of publications on CP [CounterPunch] by the various left/progressive authors. Indeed, with his 264 publications, Paul Craig Roberts, editor of the white nationalist website VDare, has been published more times by CounterPunch than all of the left/progressive authors studied combined.

RIGHT/WHITE SUPREMACISTS NO. OF PUBLICATIONS ON COUNTERPUNCH
Paul Craig Roberts 264
Franklin Lamb 170
Bill & Kathleen Christison (includes individually and jointly written articles) 78
Gilad Atzmon 46
Israel Shamir 45
Alison Weir 42
Ron Paul 19
Jeff Blankfort 3
Paul Larudee 3
Paul Findley 2
Mary Rizzo 1
Daniel McGowan 1
William Lind 1
TOTAL RIGHT/WHITE SUPREMACISTS 674

LEFT/PROGRESSIVE
Louis Proyect 59
Tariq Ali 43
John Pilger 38
Jeremy Scahill 34
Noam Chomsky 32
Norman Finkelstein 19
Paul Street 14
Amy Goodman 6
Edward Herman 6
Howard Zinn 0
Naomi Klein 0
TOTAL LEFT/PROGRESSIVE 245

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:33:36am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which is why we should fire all qualified climate research people and replace them with ones who respect the official White House version of things…

I wonder why we bother with any of those “scientist” types? Common sense is strong among the RWNJs and it’s really all we need to get through life. Imagine how well built cars would be if we stopped making them with plastic and aluminum that bend, break, and absorb force, and instead, made them out of steel so they were strong and survived crashes better. That’s common sense.

And, the examples of common sense failin* could go on for pages.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:35:14am

re: #226 William Lewis

Can’t start my truck in the cold. Trying to call the local bus service for a ride to work. Bleah.

I would suggest a Smart car. Affixing a plow to it can be a problem, but it starts fine in very cold weather.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:35:20am

re: #224 Anymouse 🌹

And your story of being a staunch liberal surrounded by conservatives would be a fascinating story. Ditto the stories from the Black voters who got Jones elected despite voter suppression and Moore’s strong red state advantage.

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lawhawk  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:36:14am

re: #223 Patricia Kayden

Great question. It’s scary how they exert so much energy to pump up Trump supporters while failing to expose them for the dangerous bigots many of them actually are. Trump gave us more than enough evidence of his racism, sexism and xenophobia prior to last November. The fact that so many Americans voted for him despite his bigotry and lack of demeanor and experience should be the focus of the MSM. I don’t care that those who voted for this jerk still support him. So what?

Trump voters: angry white guys in small town America.

In other words, “the true minority.” Media outlets play this up no matter what, despite fact that their say in politics has declined as more people live in urban areas and are multicultural and reflect different religious and political backgrounds.

Media continues to gravitate towards this almost mythic approach to the “typical” American that they’ve ignored that the typical American is from an urban area, likely has a parent or grandparent who speaks a foreign langugage at home, and voted for Hillary, not Trump.

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William Lewis  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:37:10am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹

I would suggest a Smart car. Affixing a plow to it can be a problem, but it starts fine in very cold weather.

If there was any way for me to get a loan for one, it would be very high on my list.

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danarchy  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:37:31am

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And we all know the pundits who do this kind of crap: folks like Cillizza and other guys who have no problem with losers like Bernie sticking around, but demand Hillary exit stage left.

So just to be contrarian, that poll does not say most folks admire Hillary Clinton. When asked who they admire most she got the largest percentage, but it was only 9%.

Hell Donald Trump was the second most admired man on the list well ahead of Pope Francis. The fact Obama was first and Trump was right behind him is just another clear sign of how polarized we are.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:38:10am

re: #226 William Lewis

Can’t start my truck in the cold. Trying to call the local bus service for a ride to work. Bleah.

If you have some basic tools…I know a sure fire way to get a gas engine going in the bitter cold.

Pull your plugs, clean them off, take them into the house and warm them up in the oven. Not hot, just warm…and dry.

Then put only half of them in the engine going with every other plug in the firing order.

Start the engine on half the plugs…it will be freer to turn and take less battery with less compression. Let the engine run a bit on half the plugs to get warmed up a bit.

Shut it off after a few minutes and then put the remaining plugs in. It should start up fine then and you can be on your way.

It works, and yes it can be a hassle, but if you gotta get somewhere it works.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:38:30am

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

And your story of being a staunch liberal surrounded by conservatives would be a fascinating story. Ditto the stories from the Black voters who got Jones elected despite voter suppression and Moore’s strong red state advantage.

Not trying to toot my horn here, but a staunch liberal elected twice by conservatives (as an out atheist and socialist).

As for Alabama, you could practically run the coverage of the voters in the Sunday religion section of the newspaper as freakin’ proof of a miracle. (Actually it was hard work GOTV, but still.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:40:23am

re: #235 William Lewis

If there was any way for me to get a loan for one, it would be very high on my list.

Well, we used saved money and paid cash (well, actually a bank money order), but cash can be an issue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:40:29am

The sexism and misogyny towards Hilary was just as crucial in getting Trump elected than were angry rural white goes. Then there’s the Russia factor of course.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:41:19am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹

Well, we used saved money and paid cash (well, actually a bank money order), but cash can be an issue.

Saving money? What’s that?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:41:37am

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

And your story of being a staunch liberal surrounded by conservatives would be a fascinating story


re: #224 Anymouse 🌹

Actually don’t think I’ve ever read a story like that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:42:50am

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Saving money? What’s that?

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Well, you eat beans and rice for twenty months and never go anywhere… .

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:43:25am

re: #231 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I wonder why we bother with any of those “scientist” types? Common sense is strong among the RWNJs and it’s really all we need to get through life. Imagine how well built cars would be if we stopped making them with plastic and aluminum that bend, break, and absorb force, and instead, made them out of steel so they were strong and survived crashes better. That’s common sense.

And, the examples of common sense failin* could go on for pages.

When I was in 9th grade, the “Science” teacher was talking one day about how cars used to be built better and how back in the day he’d seen a car hit a guardrail dead on at 50 mph and get barely a scratch.

I got in trouble because I couldn’t convincingly pretend to believe him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:44:21am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

The sexism and misogyny towards Hilary was just as crucial in getting Trump elected than were angry rural white goes. Then there’s the Russia factor of course.

Comey played a crucial role as well.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:45:16am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Not trying to toot my horn here, but a staunch liberal elected twice by conservatives (as an out atheist and socialist).

As for Alabama, you could practically run the coverage of the voters in the Sunday religion section of the newspaper as freakin’ proof of a miracle. (Actually it was hard work GOTV, but still.)

Yeah, but it’s not like they elected you to the School Board, where you could poison their children’s minds, right?

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:45:45am

re: #237 ObserverArt

If you have some basic tools…I know a sure fire way to get a gas engine going in the bitter cold.

Pull your plugs, clean them off, take them into the house and warm them up in the oven. Not hot, just warm…and dry.

Then put only half of them in the engine going with every other plug in the firing order.

Start the engine on half the plugs…it will be freer to turn and take less battery with less compression. Let the engine run a bit on half the plugs to get warmed up a bit.

Shut it off after a few minutes and then put the remaining plugs in. It should start up fine then and you can be on your way.

It works, and yes it can be a hassle, but if you gotta get somewhere it works.

I used to own a ‘65 Volvo, and they were notorious for not starting in cold weather due to the oil getting too cold and making the whole engine sluggish.

I ended up buying an electric dipstick. It kept the oil warm enough to allow the engine to turn over. That’s half the battle right there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:47:02am

re: #237 ObserverArt

If you have some basic tools…I know a sure fire way to get a gas engine going in the bitter cold.

Pull your plugs, clean them off, take them into the house and warm them up in the oven. Not hot, just warm…and dry.

Then put only half of them in the engine going with every other plug in the firing order.

Start the engine on half the plugs…it will be freer to turn and take less battery with less compression. Let the engine run a bit on half the plugs to get warmed up a bit.

Shut it off after a few minutes and then put the remaining plugs in. It should start up fine then and you can be on your way.

It works, and yes it can be a hassle, but if you gotta get somewhere it works.

Jesus. I’d rather move someplace warmer.

Oh, right. I did.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:48:02am

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

When I was in 9th grade, the “Science” teacher was talking one day about how cars used to be built better and how back in the day he’d seen a car hit a guardrail dead on at 50 mph and get barely a scratch.

I got in trouble because I couldn’t convincingly pretend to believe him.

It’s true. I used to drive a 64 Cadillac, and someone completely destroyed their car rear-ending me. My bumper was bent a little. The problem with the old cars is they did nothing to protect the passenger. The car would come through pretty well, but the people in it would take the full impact of the collision.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:49:18am

re: #249 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The problem with the old cars is they did nothing to protect the passenger. The car would come through pretty well, but the people in it would take the full impact of the collision.

common sense in action!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:51:17am

re: #237 ObserverArt

Funny story - my Dad once cleaned the engine compartment of his Citroen, after which it ran like shit. Turned out he’d pulled the plug wires to wipe them clean, and then just put them back on randomly, not knowing about firing order. It was a wonder that it ran AT ALL.

I impressed him by putting them back in the right order and making his car run well again.

Meanwhile, I was brought face-to-face with one of the most important realizations: Your parents aren’t all-knowing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:53:25am

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but it’s not like they elected you to the School Board, where you could poison their children’s minds, right?

LOL. My wife does that as the public library director.

The state library commission actually called into question one of her reports. (It involved giving raw numbers of types of books checked out by age groups.) They questioned her figures on teenagers and pre-teens checking out more science books than fiction.

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danarchy  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:53:58am

re: #249 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s true. I used to drive a 64 Cadillac, and someone completely destroyed their car rear-ending me. My bumper was bent a little. The problem with the old cars is they did nothing to protect the passenger. The car would come through pretty well, but the people in it would take the full impact of the collision.

Yes, back when “crumple zones” meant your head,neck, chest and legs…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:54:14am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

common sense in action!

Right. It’s not like you NEED a sternum uncrushed by the steering wheel hub, if you’re going to be dead anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:56:59am

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

I owned a 1977 Citroen GS when I was stationed in Spain. It looked like it was rolled down a mountain, pushed back up, then rolled down again.

(I drove that car on a vacation trip from Rota to Paris. The hotel’s valet parking guys really didn’t want to have anything to do with my car for some reason).

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:57:43am
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“ethical non monogamist”

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 10:59:03am

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

When I was in 9th grade, the “Science” teacher was talking one day about how cars used to be built better and how back in the day he’d seen a car hit a guardrail dead on at 50 mph and get barely a scratch.

I got in trouble because I couldn’t convincingly pretend to believe him.

What your “science” teacher neglected to say is that the driver/passengers were turned into goo in that sudden stop without modern seat belts and impact absorbers, such as collapsible steering columns, air bags, and padded dashes.

Crash Test 1959 Chevrolet Bel Air VS. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu (Frontal Offset) IIHS 50th Anniversary

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:00:31am

re: #257 jaunte

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“ethical non monogamist”

What the fuck does that even mean? “I cheat on my wife, but I’m pretty sure she’s cool with it”?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:00:32am

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Right. It’s not like you NEED a sternum uncrushed by the steering wheel hub, if you’re going to be dead anyway.

Compared to the wreck we had last May where my wife and I were uninjured in a sixty mph collision with a deer in our Smart. The car took some damage but the only damage either of us took was my hand’s surgical incision ripping open.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:02:12am

re: #258 TedStriker

What your “science” teacher neglected to say is that the driver/passengers were turned into goo in that sudden stop without modern seat belts and impact absorbers, such as collapsible steering columns, air bags, and padded dashes.

Or shot out through the windshield into bridge abutments and the like. Or skulls fractured on hard metal dashboards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:02:46am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

Compared to the wreck we had last May where my wife and I were uninjured in a sixty mph collision with a deer in our Smart. The car took some damage but the only damage either of us took was my hand’s surgical incision ripping open.

But I bet the deer was pretty fucked up, right?

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:03:06am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

Well, you eat beans and rice for twenty months and never go anywhere… .

And - surprise, surprise!….that’s your typical Mormon diet….

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:03:27am

re: #249 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s true. I used to drive a 64 Cadillac, and someone completely destroyed their car rear-ending me. My bumper was bent a little. The problem with the old cars is they did nothing to protect the passenger. The car would come through pretty well, but the people in it would take the full impact of the collision.

There’s money to be made in modernized restorations of classic cars. Getting three point seat belt kits for old cars is fairly easy now (though a lot of classic car owners want original restorations), and I’m guessing airbags and other safety precautions are also available in some circumstances.

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danarchy  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:03:56am

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

What the fuck does that even mean? “I cheat on my wife, but I’m pretty sure she’s cool with it”?

I have plenty of friends in the Poly community. They are up front with each other about their partners, let each other know and discuss when they are getting new partners. It isn’t my bag, but there is nothing particularly unethical about being non monogamist.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:04:04am

re: #263 The Major

And - surprise, surprise!….that’s your typical Mormon diet….

That’s why you shouldn’t invite them into the house. the flatulence.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:04:18am

Yay! I just got an automated phone call telling me that my new toy is ready to pick up at the Fedex store on Snelling Avenue in Street Paul. And it’s above zero now!

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mmmirele  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:05:19am

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

But I bet the deer was pretty fucked up, right?

The deer didn’t have the advantage of over 50 years of automotive safety enhancements. I’m sure lt looked like a human bounced out of a ‘57 Chevy at 60 mph.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:05:23am

re: #265 danarchy

I have plenty of friends in the Poly community. They are up front with each other about their partners, let each other know and discuss when they are getting new partners. It isn’t my bag, but there is nothing particularly unethical about being non monogamist.

I’m a big believer in love being what it is, not what it’s supposed to be, but to me describing yourself as and ‘ethical non-monogamist’ is just a bit too precious.

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:05:58am

re: #267 stpaulbear

Yay! I just got an automated phone call telling me that my new toy is ready to pick up at the Fedex store on Snelling Avenue in Street Paul. And it’s above zero now!

I remember going to the UPS depot in Minneapolis when I lived there for a year before I moved out to Vadnais Heights….

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:07:05am

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

When I was in 9th grade, the “Science” teacher was talking one day about how cars used to be built better and how back in the day he’d seen a car hit a guardrail dead on at 50 mph and get barely a scratch.

I got in trouble because I couldn’t convincingly pretend to believe him.

Did he mention that even though the car had little damage the poor driver was injured or maybe even killed from the trauma of hitting that nice strong built-well steering wheel, or the vicious cuts from the non-safety glass.

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:07:37am

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m a big believer in love being what it is, not what it’s supposed to be, but to me describing yourself as and ‘ethical non-monogamist’ is just a bit too precious.

“Ethical non-monogamist” sounds like “Hi, I’m Steve, I just want you to know that I’ll sleep with whomever will let me get it in… so, you come here often?”

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:07:40am

Now, for some of the best news I’ve heard yet today:

Tennessean: Nathan Bedford Forrest statue off I-65 vandalized, painted pink

The only thing that would’ve made this better is if someone then blew it up.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:10:49am

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

When I was in 9th grade, the “Science” teacher was talking one day about how cars used to be built better and how back in the day he’d seen a car hit a guardrail dead on at 50 mph and get barely a scratch.

I got in trouble because I couldn’t convincingly pretend to believe him.

And then they poured and scraped the driver out of the car and took him to the morge in a beaker.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:11:41am
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jaunte  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:12:01am

re: #273 TedStriker

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“Well, if they would read their history book and find out what it’s all about, the ‘War of Northern Aggression’ was about taxes, it was not about slavery,” Dorris said. “Lincoln couldn’t find a real good reason to have a war, so he decided it was all about slavery. Two different issues right there.”

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:13:17am

re: #276 jaunte

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KGxvi  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:14:31am

re: #276 jaunte

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Fuck that guy, literally every traitor state issued articles of succession that said it was about slavery. THEY FUCKING SAID IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY so fuck them.

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A Cranky One  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:14:51am

re: #273 TedStriker

That’s hysterical. We drive by that monstrosity when going to Nashville to visit my mom. It’s got to be one of the most hideous, ugly statues ever created, independent of the subject (also hideous and ugly).

It’s actually improved by the pink paint!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:15:11am

re: #273 TedStriker

Now, for some of the best news I’ve heard yet today:

Tennessean: Nathan Bedford Forrest statue off I-65 vandalized, painted pink

The only thing that would’ve made this better is if someone then blew it up.

so much hatred on the left

and barbarism, ruining a great work of art dedicated to the founding father of the KKK
(although to his credit, he did distance himself from it when he saw what it was becoming)

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:15:45am

re: #279 A Cranky One

It’s actually improved by the pink paint!

Unifies the composition.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:16:08am

re: #270 The Major

I remember going to the UPS depot in Minneapolis when I lived there for a year before I moved out to Vadnais Heights….

The place I use as a Fedex delivery point (rather than my front porch) used to be a Kinko’s so it’s not a monster distribution warehouse like the UPS depot. I just found out that I can have it sent to the Walgreen’s that I get my prescriptions from, but I don’t want to send anything large or valuable there. New toy!

Lene Lovich ‎– New Toy (Official Video)

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:16:32am

Cartoon History of the Woah of Noathun Aggression.

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:17:20am

BTW, this is Bill Dorris, the person that put up and owns that NBF “Confederate memorial park”:

and this is his company:

bill-dorris.com

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:18:10am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so much hatred on the left

and barbarism, ruining a great work of art dedicated to the founding father of the KKK
(although to his credit, he did distance himself from it when he saw what it was becoming)

You forget a / or something?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:18:54am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so much hatred on the left

and barbarism, ruining a great work of art dedicated to the founding father of the KKK
(although to his credit, he did distance himself from it when he saw what it was becoming)

And Hitler loved dogs. Not only was Forrest a slaver and the founder of the Klan, during the War his troops massacred hundreds of African-American soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow.

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:22:23am

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

And Hitler loved dogs. Not only was Forrest a slaver an the founder of the Klan, during the War his troops massacred hundreds of African-American soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow.

I don’t think you’ll hear a peep from Dorris on that.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:23:20am

There’s no way I could imagine Trump doing this. He probably wouldn’t know what most of the questions were even about.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:23:47am

re: #276 jaunte

“Well, if they would read their history book and find out what it’s all about, the ‘War of Northern Aggression’ was about taxes, it was not about slavery,” Dorris said. “Lincoln couldn’t find a real good reason to have a war, so he decided it was all about slavery. Two different issues right there.”

And, he’s a big boy with broad shoulders…

What the hell does that mean. He wanted a war so he made it about slavery and not taxes? I thought the south was supposed to be pissed about the taxes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:24:10am

OH HAI I am back from the ER.

The bleeding has slowed to a trickle & they wrapped my thumb & half my hand in a pressure bandage. No stitches tho.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:29:17am

re: #282 stpaulbear

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I still love that song. Lene was brilliant - and she introduced the world to Thomas Dolby.

And congrats on the new toy! OH-AY-OH!

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:30:37am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI I am back from the ER.

The bleeding has slowed to a trickle & they wrapped my thumb & half my hand in a pressure bandage. No stitches tho.

Good! (the “no-stitches” part, that is)
Glad you’re OK.

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:32:52am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:33:02am

re: #292 Jay C

Good! (the “no-stitches” part, that is)
Glad you’re OK.

Seconded. We were worried about you.

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danarchy  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:35:56am

So I have a regular client visit every Wednesday afternoon. It is a 40 person office and there is currently only one other person here, and I don’t think she noticed me come in because she is streaming a movie in her office. Think I may just do a quick server check up and then call it an early day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:39:23am

re: #278 KGxvi

Fuck that guy, literally every traitor state issued articles of succession that said it was about slavery. THEY FUCKING SAID IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY so fuck them.

They also cited the Bible as moral justification to maintain slavery.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:40:07am

Cards Against Humanity publishes the Pulse of the Nation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:40:21am

re: #272 KGxvi

“Ethical non-monogamist” sounds like “Hi, I’m Steve, I just want you to know that I’ll sleep with whomever will let me get it in… so, you come here often?”

Yeah, that’s kinda what I was thinking. Like the guy who can’t get laid advertising himself as an Alpha Male.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:40:21am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI I am back from the ER.

The bleeding has slowed to a trickle & they wrapped my thumb & half my hand in a pressure bandage. No stitches tho.

Good no stitches required. But that bandage is going to put a crimp in your cooking style for sure.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:43:17am

re: #298 Ace-o-aces

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Note that Nehlen’s comments supporting the mass deportation of all Muslims in 2016 apparently wasn’t enough to get Bannon to disavow him.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:43:40am

re: #302 Bubblehead II

Typing too.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:48:14am

re: #304 Shropshire Slasher

Typing too.

Well since I’m a two finger typist, it wouldn’t be much of a problem for me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:48:55am

re: #278 KGxvi

Fuck that guy, literally every traitor state issued articles of succession that said it was about slavery. THEY FUCKING SAID IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY so fuck them.

Also Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens’s “Cornerstone Speech”:

Our new government is founded upon exactly [this] idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

(Delivered a few weeks before the Confederates attacked the United States at Fort Sumter)

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:49:09am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why didn’t this come up during the election?

Coulda’ been a real game-changer.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:51:53am

re: #289 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And, he’s a big boy with broad shoulders…

What the hell does that mean. He wanted a war so he made it about slavery and not taxes? I thought the south was supposed to be pissed about the taxes.

If you think they’re thinking, you’re overthinking.

History is crystal fucking clear, so they have to come up with some bullshit. Note that the same people who will give you that line about how it wasn’t about slavery because Lincoln said if he could bring the Union back together without freeing the slaves he would will also tell you that line about Lincoln needing an excuse that wasn’t just taxes so he blamed it on slavery.

It’s all bullshit, and they believe it without it making sense because they can’t accept the idea that great-grandpappy went to war to preserve and extend chattel slavery, the worst cause for which American soldiers ever took up arms.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:52:57am

re: #303 Big Beautiful Door

Note that Nehlen’s comments supporting the mass deportation of all Muslims in 2016 apparently wasn’t enough to get Bannon to disavow him.

Nehlen probably had to support that to get Bannon’s endorsement.

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:53:31am

One part of the sidewalk in front of the shop is almost one year old. I feel like taking some birthday cake across the street to the guys in the hole they just dug in that sidewalk. But I’d have to make them wash their hands.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:55:16am

re: #311 wrenchwench

But I’d have to make them wash their hands.

Why? Are they going to feed it to you?!
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Give them cake! They don’t care about their dirty hands!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:57:47am

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s all bullshit, and they believe it without it making sense because they can’t accept the idea that great-grandpappy went to war to preserve and extend chattel slavery, the worst cause for which American soldiers traitors ever took up arms.

Fixed.

That is the reason. “My grandpappy wasn’t a traitor.”

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:57:51am

Trump looks like he’s even failing at trashing the FBI.

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wrenchwench  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:58:18am

re: #312 Shropshire Slasher

Why? Are they going to feed it to you?!
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Give them cake! They don’t care about their dirty hands!

After throwing water out of the hole into the street using an old can, they don’t look particularly hungry.

And I’m fresh out of birthday cake.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 11:58:47am

re: #311 wrenchwench

One part of the sidewalk in front of the shop is almost one year old. I feel like taking some birthday cake across the street to the guys in the hole they just dug in that sidewalk. But I’d have to make them wash their hands.

Give it to them on a napkin, which they can hold while eating it.

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garzooma  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:00:44pm

re: #314 makeitstop

Trump looks like he’s even failing at trashing the FBI.

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petesh  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:01:51pm

re: #317 garzooma

You know who trashes the FBI? Criminals.

Boom!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:02:01pm

Citing Wikipedia on the Cornerstone Speech:

Historian Harry V. Jaffa discusses the speech at length in his book A New Birth of Freedom. He concludes that “this remarkable address conveys, more than any other contemporary document, not only the soul of the Confederacy but also of that Jim Crow South that arose from the ashes of the Confederacy.” Jaffa equated the racism of Stephens and the Confederacy to that of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, stating the two were not that different in principle:

“Stephens’s prophecy of the Confederacy’s future resembles nothing so much as Hitler’s prophecies of the Thousand-Year Reich. Nor are their theories very different.”
— Harry V. Jaffa, A New Birth of Freedom: Abraham Lincoln and the Coming of the Civil War (2000), p. 223.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:02:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:03:50pm

re: #317 garzooma

You know who trashes the FBI? Criminals.

I have a poster in my kitchen (which my neigbours or others see when they come in my house) that says “Republicans want fewer regulations for the same reason that criminals want fewer cops.”

(There isn’t much doubt about my partisan leanings here… .)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:04:15pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:05:39pm

re: #314 makeitstop

I hope the FBI’s boss doesn’t find out…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:05:41pm

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Good. Make him ashamed of his wastrel ways as President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:06:56pm

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

And Hitler loved dogs. Not only was Forrest a slaver and the founder of the Klan, during the War his troops massacred hundreds of African-American soldiers who had surrendered at Fort Pillow.

I read that he was exonerated on those charges, but I do not support anything he did or stood for. He was a brilliant military tactician, but you do not see people putting up monuments in honor of Erwin Rommel, either…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:07:49pm

re: #314 makeitstop

Trump looks like he’s even failing at trashing the FBI.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:08:54pm

re: #289 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And, he’s a big boy with broad shoulders…

What the hell does that mean. He wanted a war so he made it about slavery and not taxes? I thought the south was supposed to be pissed about the taxes.

again, Southern Revisionism starts with “Slavery was not the only reason for the Civil War” and twists it to “Slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War”, and that viewpoint is gaining a lot of currency and becoming more and more mainstreamed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:09:13pm

I’m going to bail, I’m tired. I will leave with a guinea pig picture for Curious Lurker.

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:12:11pm

re: #324 Anymouse 🌹

Good. Make him ashamed of his wastrel ways as President.

The man has no shame, only how to project (and protect) his image.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:13:40pm

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:13:56pm
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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:17:20pm

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I read that he was exonerated on those charges, but I do not support anything he did or stood for. He was a brilliant military tactician, but you do not see people putting up monuments in honor of Erwin Rommel, either…

At least Rommel turned on Hitler at the end in helping the von Stauffenberg assassination plot; he was given the choice to commit suicide or be put to death anyway after a show trial and the all-but-certain Nazi reprisals upon his family.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:18:39pm

re: #332 TedStriker

At least Rommel turned on Hitler at the end in helping the von Stauffenberg assassination plot; he was given the choice to commit suicide or be put to death anyway after a show trial and the Nazi reprisals upon his family.

How did you learn that without any statues of Rommel standing to commemorate him?//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:21:59pm

re: #332 TedStriker

At least Rommel turned on Hitler at the end in helping the von Stauffenberg assassination plot; he was given the choice to commit suicide or be put to death anyway after a show trial and the all-but-certain Nazi reprisals upon his family.

yunno,if the Stauffenberg plot had not failed, Germany might not be the modern. progressive democracy that it is today. Those people, although anti-Hitler, were far from democrats.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:24:04pm

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

He really does have a reverse Midas touch. Everything he trashes gets a huge boost.

The Hollies “King Midas In Reverse”

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:26:33pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

After throwing water out of the hole into the street using an old can, they don’t look particularly hungry.

And I’m fresh out of birthday cake.

And…who caused that, hmmmm?

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:27:17pm

re: #317 garzooma

You know who trashes the FBI? Criminals.

Which is exactly what the whole Republican party is at this time.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:28:38pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:29:54pm

re: #337 ObserverArt

Which is exactly what the whole Republican party is at this time.

At this time?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:30:01pm

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yunno,if the Stauffenberg plot had not failed, Germany might not be the modern. progressive democracy that it is today. Those people, although anti-Hitler, were far from democrats.

I think they would have been unpleasantly surprised to find that the allies still insisted on unconditional surrender. It might’ve ended the war a few months earlier and saved some lives, however.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:33:04pm

re: #339 Ace Rothstein

At this time?

I have hope that they get their shit together in the future. After about 20 years or so with no actual power.

We do need a two-party system.

Of course, I have no problem if that means a totally new party and the Republicans go away.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:41:23pm

The Founders saw the potential of a President like Trump gaining power. What they did not see was that we would have a political party that would be as complicit and enabling towards said President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:43:36pm

re: #340 Big Beautiful Door

I think they would have been unpleasantly surprised to find that the allies still insisted on unconditional surrender. It might’ve ended the war a few months earlier and saved some lives, however.

It is just a mistake to see them as defenders of Democracy. They were just for removing Hitler.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:52:17pm

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is just a mistake to see them as defenders of Democracy. They were just for removing Hitler.

I agree. Prussian Generals aren’t renowned for their love of liberal democracy.

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2017 • 12:56:14pm

re: #282 stpaulbear

Love her!!

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:02:54pm

I’m pretty sure the Flynn family is stupid.

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gocart mozart  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:08:18pm
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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:19:47pm

In the Bi-annual religious war in Edinburgh, Hibernians are nil-nil at Hearts of Midlothian.

And at St. James Park, Man City lead Newcastle one-nil.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:36:07pm

Welp, so much for that pardon.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:42:46pm

re: #350 makeitstop

Welp, so much for that pardon.

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:45:54pm

Street rioting is avoided in Edinburgh, a nil-nil draw.

Man City win 1-nil. Not bad for Newcastle, but still, a loss.

Man City has 19 wins, one draw, and no losses, with 18 wins in a row. A remarkable run of results.

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mmmirele  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:52:06pm

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

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Only one truck? These guys are lightweights. Back around 2000, Scientology rented dozens of U-Haul trucks in the Tampa St. Pete area and parked them all around downtown Clearwater so that their people would not see our picket signs. They were pretty unsuccessful. Of course people are going to ask why there are dozens of U-Hauls parked on the street in downtown Clearwater. I hope this was just as unsuccessful.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:54:09pm

So much hate in this world. Dammit.

nypost.com

The four people found dead in an upstate basement were identified Wednesday as a mom, her two young kids and her domestic partner - and cops said it may be a quadruple homicide.

“After being in this business for nearly 42 years, I can say I have not seen savagery like this,” Troy police chief James Tedesco said in a televised news conference.

timesunion.com

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2017 • 1:58:39pm

re: #352 austin_blue

Manchester City is just running away with it. My team is chasing the tasty crumb of 4th place. Too inconsistent to get it this year though, I’m afraid.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:00:29pm

re: #350 makeitstop

Welp, so much for that pardon.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:01:59pm

re: #350 makeitstop

Welp, so much for that pardon.

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I wonder if anyone on Team Trump has bothered to figure out that if Flynn HAS provided any sort of evidence that they might not want to get publicized, that he just MAY have backed it up with some sort of, y’know, proof? Solid-enough proof that the Moron-In-Chief tweeting “he’s a lying liar!!” Isn’t going to just make it go away….?

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Skip Intro  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:03:58pm

re: #359 Jay C

Trump is convinced that he can lie his way out of anything. So far he hasn’t been wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:05:24pm

re: #360 Skip Intro

Trump is convinced that he can lie his way out of anything. So far he hasn’t been wrong.

he has the power(lessness) of the press behind him

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Skip Intro  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:09:16pm

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Trump says that “alternative facts” exonerate him on all charges the press will report that with a straight face. Talk shows will spend weeks speculating over what those “alternative facts” could be and the best talking heads from the far right will be invited on to give their considered opinions.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:10:04pm

I’m being bombarded with donation requests from all of the charities and orgs that I donated to last December. Worse than the election messages. I don’t have a three-paycheck month until March so they’re all going to have to wait until then. Bummer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:12:06pm

re: #362 Skip Intro

If Trump says that “alternative facts” exonerate him on all charges the press will report that with a straight face. Talk shows will spend weeks speculating over what those “alternative facts” could be and the best talking heads from the far right will be invited on to give their considered opinions.

or we spend hours and hours on his gaffes and outrageous and unfounded statements while his people are quietly dismantling government, society, and the economy as we know it.

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Skip Intro  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:13:27pm

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or we spend hours and hours on his gaffes and outrageous and unfounded statements while his people are quietly dismantling government, society, and the economy as we know it.

Why not both?

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:14:04pm

Okay, I’m out for a while, going to renew my library card.

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stpaulbear  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:16:42pm

re: #363 stpaulbear

I’m being bombarded with donation requests from all of the charities and orgs that I donated to last December. Worse than the election messages. I don’t have a three-paycheck month until March so they’re all going to have to wait until then. Bummer.

This one is the DSCC and Act Blue, but it’s a good subset:

The ten democratic women Senators who are up for re-election are counting on your help to win in 2018 — and to send in the reinforcements they need to take back the Senate.

That’s right, if we’re able to add Jacky Rosen of Nevada and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona to their ranks, Democrats can take back the Senate in November.

Support the Women’s Senate Network

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:24:39pm

re: #328 Anymouse 🌹

I’m going to bail, I’m tired. I will leave with a guinea pig picture for Curious Lurker.

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Cutest thing about Guinea Pigs is that the babies come out fully furred, eyes open, running around. As cute as adult GPs are, the babies are even cuter!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:27:15pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

After throwing water out of the hole into the street using an old can, they don’t look particularly hungry.

And I’m fresh out of birthday cake.

“I have come here to eat birthday cake and throw water out of a hole with an old can. And I’m all out of birthday cake.”

And I’m all out of bubblegum.
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Scout  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:30:56pm

re: #367 stpaulbear

This one is the DSCC and Act Blue, but it’s a good subset:

Support the Women’s Senate Network

That’s one where I’ve been sending some yen. Hopefully my contributions are doing some good.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:31:01pm

re: #367 stpaulbear

This one is the DSCC and Act Blue, but it’s a good subset:

Support the Women’s Senate Network

There are so many good campaigns out there, but you have to triage. I’m getting stuck on IronStache, who’s living video-to-video. Here’s the new one:

It Takes a Lot to Do a Little

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:31:16pm

So just as I’m recovering, The Boys come down with It. Luckily, it should only be brief.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:31:29pm

it’s been 24 hours since his last tweet.

HUZZAH!

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:35:10pm

re: #350 makeitstop

Welp, so much for that pardon.

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Anyone that thinks Trump would have their back when shit hits the fan is a damn fool.

Hopefully some of the other Trumpians are getting this message and are prepared to deal with the investigations as if they are on their own.

Save your own butts…throw Trump under the bus before he does it to you.

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petesh  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:36:21pm

re: #352 austin_blue

… Man City has 19 wins, one draw, and no losses, with 18 wins in a row. A remarkable run of results.

Just because you are able to remark on this does not mean you should.

That I have been a United fan since Bobby Charlton had hair is of course irrelevant.

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:38:30pm

re: #376 ObserverArt

Anyone that thinks Trump would have their back when shit hits the fan is a damn fool

All one has to do is look what happened to Roy Cohn, Trump’s main lawyer during the 1980s.

Once he was diagnosed with AIDS and in the hospital, Trump cut ties instantly - to the point that Cohn stated: “Trump pisses ice water!”….

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 2:51:45pm

re: #377 petesh

Just because you are able to remark on this does not mean you should.

That I have been a United fan since Bobby Charlton had hair is of course irrelevant.

Hey, my heart bleeds Chelsea blue, so I know the feeling.

But credit where credit is due, City are rolling like a freight train right now, an excellent and generous management team, a coach who I consider to be the best in Europe in Pep, a decent enough defense, and the best attacking side in the PL and maybe in Europe.

De Bruyne is a revelation in attacking midfield.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:01:02pm

re: #116 jeffreyw

Um.. got any packaging tips? Asking for a friend…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:01:09pm

re: #378 The Major

All one has to do is look what happened to Roy Cohn, Trump’s main lawyer during the 1980s.

Once he was diagnosed with AIDS and in the hospital, Trump cut ties instantly - to the point that Cohn stated: “Trump pisses ice water!”….

I suppose that’s one way of saying he’s a sociopath.

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fern01  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:08:07pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Next year only the votes for dear leader will be counted.

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:53:34pm

re: #382 fern01

Next year only the votes for dear leader will be counted.

You jest (I hope), but then again, this is the candidate who said (in public) that he believed the election would be free and fair - IF HE WON….

OK, on to yonderthread….


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