Is Mitt Romney Donald Trump With Better Hair?

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Not this guy again.

Mitt Romney: The president shapes the public character of the nation. Trump’s character falls short.

Romney’s getting a lot of praise from the media for this “scathing” op-ed. But I’d just like to highlight one section.

It is not that all of the president’s policies have been misguided. He was right to align U.S. corporate taxes with those of global competitors, to strip out excessive regulations, to crack down on China’s unfair trade practices, to reform criminal justice and to appoint conservative judges. These are policies mainstream Republicans have promoted for years. But policies and appointments are only a part of a presidency.

Yes, he just told you he supports Trump’s trade wars, his rollback of environmental protections, his installation of right wing judges on the Supreme Court and numerous federal districts, and his massive tax cuts for the rich. And he demonstrated in his last presidential campaign that he’s willing to lie shamelessly and exploit conspiracy theories for political benefit. So what exactly makes Romney different from Trump? His “character?” Or is it the hair?

Since I already wrote several tweets immediately after reading Romney’s grand statement, I’ll just repost them here:

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306 comments

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:53:22pm

There is no GOP potential candidate for the Presidential primary that is worthy of anything but scorn.

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:54:28pm

Is it just me or does anyone else still find Romney’s very visible discomfort exquisite in that pic as Trumps grins like the fucking Cheshire Cat behind him?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:55:01pm

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:55:05pm

Shocker.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:55:46pm

re: #1 Unshaken Defiance

There is no GOP potential candidate for the Presidential primary that is worthy of anything but scorn.

Larry Hogan seems like a decent man, and even pretty close to the center politically. But of course, that means he wouldn’t get anywhere in the TrumGOP.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:55:55pm

Charles,

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:56:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 2, 2019 • 1:58:15pm

Trump-South wastes no time in dismantling 50 years of environmental progress, much of it paid for in blood.

Jair Bolsonaro launches assault on Amazon rainforest protections

Hours after taking office, Brazil’s new president, Jair Bolsonaro, has launched an assault on environmental and Amazon protections with an executive order transferring the regulation and creation of new indigenous reserves to the agriculture ministry - which is controlled by the powerful agribusiness lobby.

The move sparked outcry from indigenous leaders, who said it threatened their reserves, which make up about 13% of Brazilian territory, and marked a symbolic concession to farming interests at a time when deforestation is rising again.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:03:36pm

Stand firm, Speaker Pelosi.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:05:31pm

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:07:00pm

So, fun fact in the Potential Constitutional Crises category - as of May 2018, 37 states have ratified the Equal Rights Amendment. 38 states are needed for the Amendment to take effect. But, here’s where the potential constitutional crisis starts:

4 states have “repealed” their ratification. Though it’s unclear if such repeals of ratification before fully ratified are valid. Beyond that, Congress put a couple of arbitrary deadlines for ratification in place that are of dubious constitutionality. If one more state were to ratify the ERA, the question of it’s validity would likely be thrown to Congress and/or the Courts.

There are seven states where one chamber has ratified the Amendment but it hasn’t been acted on by the other chamber.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:07:18pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Dude!! Like, you’re the one in like ya know, in LA?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:07:18pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:08:39pm

re: #7 jaunte

“coming days or weeks”. Good to know that McConnell and Republicans are okay with a long shutdown in furtherance of a phantom wall which will never be funded or built.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:09:59pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

I’ve got a boss that does it. It’s his version of “uh”, a mental pause to organize his thoughts.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:10:05pm

The one signifcant difference between Trump and Romney is that Romney isn’t a criminal beholden to a foreign dictator. But policy wise, Trump’s Administration has pushed mainstream GOP policies: tax cuts for the rich, fuck you to the environment and everyone else.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:11:15pm

re: #15 Belafon

I’ve got a boss that does it. It’s his version of “uh”, a mental pause to organize his thoughts.

One of my first oral arguments, I thought I had done pretty well, until I watched a tape and heard myself saying “uh” over and over again. Ugh.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:13:28pm

re: #17 NO SMOCKING GUN!

One of my first oral arguments, I thought I had done pretty well, until I watched a tape and heard myself saying “uh” over and over again. Ugh.

Don’t feel bad, even Obama had the “uh” verbal tick. We’re programmed to not like silence, so we use “uh” and “um” and “well” and “like” to fill the dead air.

Barack Obama “Uh” Count

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:15:55pm

re: #18 KGxvi

Don’t feel bad, even Obama had the “uh” verbal tick. We’re programmed to not like silence, so we use “uh” and “um” and “well” and “like” to fill the dead air.

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Which is used to give us time to think.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:17:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:18:00pm
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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:18:00pm

re: #19 MsJ

Which is used to give us time to think.

I think it’s also comforting to those who are listening, a signal that you’re not done talking. One of the hardest things to teach when preparing people of depositions is to avoid “uhs” and “ums” (for the sake of the court reporter and those who later have to read the transcript). It always makes for awkward exchanges between the deposing attorney and the deponent.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:19:07pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Casual-sounding Bob Dole admits his name was actually Robert.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:19:43pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is what led to the rise of Osama Bin Laden.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:20:24pm

re: #23 jaunte

Casual-sounding Bob Dole admits his name was actually Robert.

I’ve just discovered something that is sure to bring the Clinton’s down… for decades “Bill” Clinton lied about his name, his name was actually William Clinton.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:20:33pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:22:33pm

re: #7 jaunte

McConnell reiterated that he won’t put the measure the House Dems plan to pass tomorrow to reopen government on the Senate floor because Trump has said he won’t sign it, per @tedbarrettcnn. Many GOP senators support that plan, but Trump’s opposition will deny it a Senate vote

mitch,

three things:

- this is not how independent branches of government function
- this is NOT your job
- YOU DON’T WORK FOR HIM

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:23:39pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

I am allowed to do whatever I want to do on things that probably a president doesn’t have the right to do

It was as if millions of voices cried out at once, “file the lawsuit as soon as possible.”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:23:48pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

valley girls

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:24:56pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

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Undemocratic asshole.

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freetoken  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:25:07pm

re: #6 MsJ

Romney also owned the media company that owned the hate talkers on radio.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:25:24pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

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Yeah doesn’t surprise me at all.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:25:36pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

That and the “uptalking” accent. Ugh. And I grew up here in the alleged origin location.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:26:06pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

These scenes where Trump blathers endlessly, and everyone suppresses the urge to call him an idiot have a Lloyd Bridges in Hot Shots quality to them.

we could follow lloyd bridges

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:26:09pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:26:38pm

re: #25 KGxvi

I’ve just discovered something that is sure to bring the Clinton’s down… for decades “Bill” Clinton lied about his name, his name was actually William Clinton.

‘mitt’ who?

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freetoken  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:27:05pm

It was going to get warmer…

they said.

The warming trend would start on Wednesday…

they said.

Now…

there are freeze warnings for tonight with some areas getting below freezing.

I hatez winter.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:28:10pm

from downstairs:

like i said - she and he are coordinating, or it’s gonna be real interesting next thanksgiving at the romney house

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:30:37pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:33:48pm

Rod Dreher has gone full fucking Falangist.

America’s favorite reactionary moral intellectual watched a documentary series about the Spanish Civil War and on that rock solid basis reached this conclusion:

An old Catholic who had lived through those times told the filmmakers that for the first time in years, they could be public about their faith. That’s how I knew for sure that the correct side had won the war.
However, the Nationalists were exceptionally merciless in victory.

The Nationalists were basically fascists with an extra helping of Catholic identitarianism. Franco and the Falangists got financial aid from Mussolini and state of the art military aid from Hitler, which proved decisive. Franco sent volunteers to fight with the German army in Russia.

The other side was an unwieldy hodgepodge of Soviet backed communists, monarchists, anarchists and just anybody else who hated Nazi co-travelers.

Rod just sided with the Nazi pals. This is a guy who gets book reviews and op-eds in the NYT.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:34:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:35:02pm

re: #40 Scottish Dragon

Rod Dreher has gone full fucking Falangist.

America’s favorite reactionary moral intellectual watched a documentary series about the Spanish Civil War and on that rock solid basis reached this conclusion:

The Nationalists were basically fascists with an extra helping of Catholic identitarianism. Franco and the Falangists got financial aid from Mussolini and state of the art military aid from Hitler, which proved decisive. Franco sent volunteers to fight with the German army in Russia.

The other side was an unwieldy hodgepodge of Soviet backed communists, monarchists, anarchists and just anybody else who hated Nazi co-travelers.

Rod just sided with the Nazi pals. This is a guy who gets book reviews and op-eds in the NYT.

I’m surprised it’s taken him that long.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:35:17pm
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Teddy's Person  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:35:29pm

re: #38 dangerman

from downstairs:

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like i said - she and he are coordinating, or it’s gonna be real interesting next thanksgiving at the romney house

Republicans must really believe that Trump is the future of the party. So many of them are willing to do anything to please him. McDaniel dropped “Romeny” from her name in a hot second when Trump pettily expressed his displeasure.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:35:35pm

re: #41 darthstar

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Can a General please just slap him?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:36:02pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

I blame Maynard G. Krebs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:36:08pm

Bolosonaro is Portuguese for Trump.

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mmmirele  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:37:31pm

In answer to the question above: Mitt Romney is the guy with the binders full of women.

In other words, I expect little out of him.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:37:34pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Can a General please just slap him?

Don’t worry…Mitt Romney will save us. He’s like the Republican version Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez…only different.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:38:39pm

re: #29 dangerman

valley girls

Maynard G. Krebs, crystallizing the inarticulate beatnik.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:39:28pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:40:22pm

How do I use the tweet thread tool?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:40:26pm

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Beat me to it, but I brought the imagery.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:41:11pm

re: #33 Unshaken Defiance

That and the “uptalking” accent. Ugh. And I grew up here in the alleged origin location.

I’ll complete the trifecta by mentioning ‘vocal fry.’ That’s the thing that drives me straight up the wall.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:41:35pm

Oh look, Trump found a way to exempt his Emoluments Clause violation from the government shutdown.

Old Post Office Tower at Trump hotel to open during shutdown

President Trump’s last-minute demands for billions in border wall funding triggered the partial federal government shutdown that closed national parks and facilities late last month — but his namesake hotel in the nation’s capital will see its own National Park Service site reopen this week.
eenews.net

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:43:20pm

re: #40 Scottish Dragon

Rod Dreher has gone full fucking Falangist.

America’s favorite reactionary moral intellectual watched a documentary series about the Spanish Civil War and on that rock solid basis reached this conclusion:

The Nationalists were basically fascists with an extra helping of Catholic identitarianism. Franco and the Falangists got financial aid from Mussolini and state of the art military aid from Hitler, which proved decisive. Franco sent volunteers to fight with the German army in Russia.

The other side was an unwieldy hodgepodge of Soviet backed communists, monarchists, anarchists and just anybody else who hated Nazi co-travelers.

Rod just sided with the Nazi pals. This is a guy who gets book reviews and op-eds in the NYT.

The Spanish Civil War was sort of like the Syrian Civil War - there weren’t really any “good guys”. You effectively had communists fighting fascists. So saying the “right team won” is like saying the right team won when the Yankees play the Red Sox.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:44:58pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:45:38pm

re: #56 KGxvi

The Spanish Civil War was sort of like the Syrian Civil War - there weren’t really any “good guys”. You effectively had communists fighting fascists. So saying the “right team won” is like saying the right team won when the Yankees play the Red Sox.

More complicated than that, at least on the left, but “A pox on both your houses!” would have been an entirely reasonable response. Of course, that is NOT what Rod did….

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:46:55pm

re: #40 Scottish Dragon

Rod Dreher has gone full fucking Falangist.

America’s favorite reactionary moral intellectual watched a documentary series about the Spanish Civil War and on that rock solid basis reached this conclusion:

The Nationalists were basically fascists with an extra helping of Catholic identitarianism. Franco and the Falangists got financial aid from Mussolini and state of the art military aid from Hitler, which proved decisive. Franco sent volunteers to fight with the German army in Russia.

The other side was an unwieldy hodgepodge of Soviet backed communists, monarchists, anarchists and just anybody else who hated Nazi co-travelers.

Rod just sided with the Nazi pals. This is a guy who gets book reviews and op-eds in the NYT.

He sounds like a good fit for the Times then.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:47:17pm

Finally playing Red Dead 2. Wow.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:47:36pm

re: #58 Scottish Dragon

More complicated than that, at least on the left, but “A pox on both your houses!” would have been an entirely reasonable response. Of course, that is NOT what Rod did….

Ok, sure, European history in the first half of the 20th Century is slightly more complicated, but how one determines “Franco was the right guy to back” is just… wow.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:49:13pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Finally playing Red Dead 2. Wow.

I got a PS4 for Christmas 2017. Plugged it in, but have only turned it on a couple of times. I should probably try using it before the PS5 comes out. I just wish they still made NCAA Football, by far my favorite game franchise.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:50:06pm

Yep. Just as we all knew he would.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:50:22pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:51:17pm

Nancy is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and she’s all outta bubble gum.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:51:53pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

Ok, fine… follow up question:

would you vote for a budget or continuing resolution that doesn’t include the wall?

Second follow up:

Just how fucking worthless are you?

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:53:42pm

re: #56 KGxvi

The Spanish Civil War was sort of like the Syrian Civil War - there weren’t really any “good guys”.

If George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway were on the same side… that’s the good side.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:53:55pm

re: #54 makeitstop

I’ll complete the trifecta by mentioning ‘vocal fry.’ That’s the thing that drives me straight up the wall.

I will use “like” sometimes for effect….I know I’m doing it. It’s not a verbal tick, it’s a lifestyle choice. But vocal fry sends me into orbit. I HATE it. It makes the speaker sound ridiculous.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:54:49pm

I wish someone would not allow McConnell to say anything other than to answer the questions:

1. How is your decision to refuse to allow a vote on a bill that would pass overwhelmingly in the Senate because the President has alleged he won’t sign it consistent with the principles of checks and balances?

2. The same bill that just passed the House was passed with a veto-proof majority from the Senate. Why won’t you allow it to come to a vote in the Senate?

3. What principles of good governance support the notion that an overwhelmingly bipartisan bill shouldn’t receive a vote because the president claims he will veto it?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:54:59pm

re: #61 KGxvi

Ok, sure, European history in the first half of the 20th Century is slightly more complicated, but how one determines “Franco was the right guy to back” is just… wow.

You get a good bit of that in the old Catholic schools. They stressed the Alcazar of Toledo, etc. I didn’t get a fair appreciation until I read Hugh Thomas.

amazon.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:55:06pm

re: #62 KGxvi

I got a PS4 for Christmas 2017. Plugged it in, but have only turned it on a couple of times. I should probably try using it before the PS5 comes out. I just wish they still made NCAA Football, by far my favorite game franchise.

You should. Didn’t know they stopped making ncaa thoz

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:55:14pm

re: #40 Scottish Dragon

The Soviets helped the Republicans until the gold ran out. Then it was, “So long. Sucks to be you.”

Fraternal brotherhood of Marxists, my ass.

ETA: Oops. Sorry. Got the wrong side. Oh well. If I was perfect I’d be God and wouldn’t be hanging around this silly planet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:56:32pm

re: #72 Romantic Heretic

The Soviets helped the Nationalist until the gold ran out. Then it was, “So long. Sucks to be you.”

Fraternal brotherhood of Marxists, my ass.

I think that’s what disillusioned many including Orwell about the Soviet’s. Btw I think the Nationalists was the other side.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:56:58pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

You should. Didn’t know they stopped making ncaa thoz

EA Sports lost the lawsuit over using player likenesses without permission.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:57:08pm

I have Anthony Beevor’s book and of course Homage to Catalonia.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:57:18pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

“Nothing for the wall. Bring your tax returns when next we meet. “
Pelosi, before the fall.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:57:23pm

re: #74 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

EA Sports lost the lawsuit over using player likenesses without permission.

Ahhh hadn’t heard about that.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 2:59:23pm

re: #61 KGxvi

Ok, sure, European history in the first half of the 20th Century is slightly more complicated, but how one determines “Franco was the right guy to back” is just… wow.

Yeah…that actually kinda stunned me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:00:26pm

re: #78 Scottish Dragon

Yeah…that actually kinda stunned me.

I granted don’t know Rod like you do but I’m not surprised since he’s the type that will take the position favoring the church any chance.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:00:31pm

re: #62 KGxvi

I got a PS4 for Christmas 2017. Plugged it in, but have only turned it on a couple of times. I should probably try using it before the PS5 comes out. I just wish they still made NCAA Football, by far my favorite game franchise.

Recommended: Horizon Zero Dawn.

A really interesting premise and world setting. A truly scary apocalypse. Interesting characters and and excellent voice work. To top it off the main character is a young woman who kicks ass and never needs rescuing.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:00:41pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

You should. Didn’t know they stopped making ncaa thoz

Yeah, they stopped when all the former athletes were suing the NCAA a few years back over likeness rights.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:00:45pm

re: #72 Romantic Heretic

The Soviets helped the Nationalist until the gold ran out. Then it was, “So long. Sucks to be you.”

Fraternal brotherhood of Marxists, my ass.

The Soviets helped the other side.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:02:44pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

Yep. Just as we all knew he would.

Senator-elect @MittRomney: I would vote for the border wall cnn.it @TheLeadCNN

You realize a border wall would have kept your father out, right? Oh, yeah, you’re an anchor baby too.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:03:48pm

re: #67 sagehen

If George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway were on the same side… that’s the good side.

I noticed as a kid that several American WW2 films, including Casablanca and Sahara specifically mentioned characters fighting the fascists in Spain as significant points.

Franco was bad business and we knew it at the time.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:03:53pm
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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:03:56pm

re: #80 Romantic Heretic

Recommended: Horizon Zero Dawn.

A really interesting premise and world setting. A truly scary apocalypse. Interesting characters and and excellent voice work. To top it off the main character is a young woman who kicks ass and never needs rescuing.

I’ve always gravitated toward the sports games. Football and baseball, especially, occasionally hockey, basketball, or soccer. Basketball seems the hardest one for them to get right. Some of the first player games where you follow your character around really fuck with my eyes, so I never really got into those.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:04:07pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

I think that’s what disillusioned many including Orwell about the Soviet’s. Btw I think the Nationalists was the other side.

You’re quite right. Both sides from my point of view were so similar I get them confused.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:05:52pm

re: #87 Romantic Heretic

You’re quite right. Both sides from my point of view were so similar I get them confused.

Hint: The Nationalists won the battles, the Republicans had the good songs.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:06:22pm

re: #69 Mike Lamb

I wish someone would not allow McConnell to say anything other than to answer the questions:

1. How is your decision to refuse to allow a vote on a bill that would pass overwhelmingly in the Senate because the President has alleged he won’t sign it consistent with the principles of checks and balances?

2. The same bill that just passed the House was passed with a veto-proof majority from the Senate. Why won’t you allow it to come to a vote in the Senate?

3. What principles of good governance support the notion that an overwhelmingly bipartisan bill shouldn’t receive a vote because the president claims he will veto it?

its simple. and no one will do it

ask the question
let him speak as long as he wants
then say “the question was x. why wont you answer the question?”

then when he points at the next reporter, he should say
“why wont you answer his question?”

and no one moves off it.

cowards, access, turf, lotsa reasons

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:06:51pm

re: #84 Scottish Dragon

I noticed as a kid that several American WW2 films, including Casablanca and Sahara specifically mentioned characters fighting the fascists in Spain as significant points.

Franco was bad business and we knew it at the time.

Well, after WWII, ‘Premature anti-fascist’ became a code word for ‘Dirty, stinking Commie!’ More than a few Americans were never comfortable fighting the Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:07:00pm

re: #86 KGxvi

I’ve always gravitated toward the sports games. Football and baseball, especially, occasionally hockey, basketball, or soccer. Basketball seems the hardest one for them to get right. Some of the first player games where you follow your character around really fuck with my eyes, so I never really got into those.

I like baseball games but baseball season is so long. I like building a franchise up so Madden is perfect for that. Still needs a lot work tho.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:07:33pm

re: #90 Romantic Heretic

Well, after WWII, ‘Premature anti-fascist’ became a code word for ‘Dirty, stinking Commie!’ More than a few Americans were never comfortable fighting the Nazis.

And a lot of them drove the Red Scare.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:08:18pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Finally playing Red Dead 2. Wow.

It’s crazy right? I took a break to play the final Spider-Man DLC and then started a New Game Plus on that but mostly I’m just dragging RDR2 out a bit.

Pro tip, try not to shoot it out with sheriffs & deputies unless you are absolutely forced to like in the first Micah jailbreak mission. Just get on your horse and run for it, otherwise you just rack up huge bounties. Also, while fleeing pursuit it helps to open up the map and pick a nice far away destination on the map first so you don’t run into anything. Another thing that helps high speed getaways and horse races if you press and hold down on the D pad button to select the larger size mini-map as the default, gives you more heads up on hair pin turns, especially at night. Lastly, make sure you get the pump action shotgun asap, it’s the best way to fuck shit up in the early game before you get your Deadeye skill leveled up and the off hand holster from Micah’s second mission.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:08:32pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You realize a border wall would have kept your father out, right? Oh, yeah, you’re an anchor baby too.

A border wall would not have kept George out. He was an American citizen at birth, his parents were American citizens, and he ran for president in 1968 without any birther nonsense.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:08:41pm
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:09:31pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

It’s crazy right? I took a break to play the final Spider-Man DLC and then started a New Game Plus on that but mostly I’m just dragging RDR2 out a bit.

Pro tip, try not to shoot it out with sheriffs & deputies unless you are absolutely forced to like in the first Micah jailbreak mission. Just get on your horse and run for it, otherwise you just rack up huge bounties. Also, while fleeing pursuit it helps to open up the map and pick a nice far away destination on the map first so you don’t run into anything. Another thing that helps high speed getaways and horse races if you press and hold down on the D pad button to select the larger size mini-map as the default, gives you more heads up on hair pin turns, especially at night. Lastly, make sure you get the pump action shotgun asap, it’s the best way to fuck shit up in the early game before you get your Deadeye skill leveled up and the off hand holster from Micah’s second mission.

you kids and your lingo

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:10:26pm

re: #84 Scottish Dragon

In 1936 Rick Blane (Bogart) fought in Spain on the loyalist side against Franco’s fascists. 1:50 mark

Casablanca | Rick the Sentimentalist

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:13:49pm

re: #94 KGxvi

A border wall would not have kept George out. He was an American citizen at birth, his parents were American citizens, and he ran for president in 1968 without any birther nonsense.

Yes, and it’s an outrage that this polygamous Mormon colony was allowed to call themselves American citizens generation after generation when they repudiated the U.S. to live in Mexico and practice their “lifestyle”.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:14:04pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Tom Lehrer upding.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:15:18pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

In 1936 Rick Blane (Bogart) fought in Spain on the loyalist side against Franco’s fascists. 1:50 mark

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Andre Malraux organized the Republican air force, and got a good book out of it.

en.wikipedia.org

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:15:52pm

re: #67 sagehen

If George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway were on the same side… that’s the good side.

And Hitler is on the other.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:16:07pm

re: #85 Patricia Kayden

NEW: Republican @RepTomReed says he’ll back Democratic rules tomorrow - first crossover in 18 years - and has been threatened with “consequences” from GOP leaders.

Reed said he “was compelled to support the new rules after incoming House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and fellow Democratic leaders made good on promises to include process changes he had pushed as co-chairman of the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus. Those provisions were aimed at opening up the legislative process to bipartisan compromise and dissuading hostage-taking behavior by the ideological fringes of both parties.”

look at the difference between reed and mcconnell

reed’s been pushing for these very changes for a while
he will support them even though the ‘other side’ is now in charge
he wants this, so he’s voting for it. (a glimmer of how the system works)

mcconnell et al passed the spending bills a few weeks ago
now he says he wont even bring them up for a revote
they wanted this (100-0 i believe)
he’s shooting himself and the R’s in both feet, both knees, one elbow and hoping if they dont move around too much it wont hurt a lot

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:17:26pm

re: #68 BlueGrl21

I will use “like” sometimes for effect….I know I’m doing it. It’s not a verbal tick, it’s a lifestyle choice. But vocal fry sends me into orbit. I HATE it. It makes the speaker sound ridiculous.

And I only find more and more people are doing it!

The worst is when a guy uses it. I want to smack them in the head with a board and tell them to stop.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:17:33pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

In 1936 Rick Blane (Bogart) fought in Spain on the loyalist side against Franco’s fascists. 1:50 mark

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“and got well paid for it…”

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:17:50pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

In 1936 Rick Blane (Bogart) fought in Spain on the loyalist side against Franco’s fascists. 1:50 mark

[Embedded content]

Yep. Damned good scene.

The Free French soldier in Sahara (another outstanding Bogart film) also reveals he had been fighting against the Nationalists in Spain. It isn’t a throw away line. It specifically illuminates a point the writers were making about how long the fight was going to be and how important it was.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:18:29pm

re: #104 dangerman

“and got well paid for it…”

The other side would have paid far more.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:18:42pm

re: #105 Scottish Dragon

Yep. Damned good scene.

The Free French soldier in Sahara (another outstanding Bogart film) also reveals he had been fighting against the Nationalists in Spain. It isn’t a throw away line. It specifically illuminates a point the writers were making about how long the fight was going to be and how important it was.

excellent movie

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:19:03pm

re: #99 jaunte

I’d forgotten who I was paraphrasing. Thought it might have been Woody.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:19:16pm

re: #102 dangerman

look at the difference between reed and mcconnell

reed’s been pushing for these very changes for a while
he will support them even though the ‘other side’ is now in charge
he wants this, so he’s voting for it. (a glimmer of how the system works)

mcconnell et al passed the spending bills a few weeks ago
now he says he wont even bring them up for a revote
they wanted this (100-0 i believe)
he’s shooting himself and the R’s in both feet, both knees, one elbow and hoping if they dont move around too much it wont hurt a lot

They have cover from Fox news. Reality and honesty don’t matter to Republicans. As long as they can lie to the rubes.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:19:25pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

Youtube Video

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:19:26pm

re: #106 Scottish Dragon

The other side would have paid far more.

er… “The winning side would have paid you much better.”

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:19:55pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yes, and it’s an outrage that this polygamous Mormon colony was allowed to call themselves American citizens generation after generation when they repudiated the U.S. to live in Mexico and practice their “lifestyle”.

George’s grandparents were polygamous. His parents were monogamous because polygamous was banned in the LDS church in 1890, five years before his parents were married. The Romneys moved to Mexico in 1885, and returned to the US by about 1912 due to the Mexican Revolution.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:20:04pm

re: #111 dangerman

er… “The winning side would have paid you much better.”

Thanks. Paraphrasing off the top of my head.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:20:18pm

OK, it’s always taken two tries to refresh a Twitter page (or leave a Twitter page), but today it’s up to three tries. WTH is going on over there?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:20:44pm

re: #95 MsJ

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Fu NRO. No one is lying about him except your sorry asses who always are assholes.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:20:48pm

They could put that bill in front of Trump and he’d have no clue what he’s signing.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:21:19pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:21:57pm

Oooo! Oooo! I know this one! The answer is that according to the Right, anyone advocating for reducing income inequality MUST not only be poor, but also give all their money to charity, AND have grown up in a dirt-floored shack with no indoor plumbing.

Also, the Right are really, really stupid.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:22:07pm

re: #102 dangerman

look at the difference between reed and mcconnell

reed’s been pushing for these very changes for a while
he will support them even though the ‘other side’ is now in charge
he wants this, so he’s voting for it. (a glimmer of how the system works)

mcconnell et al passed the spending bills a few weeks ago
now he says he wont even bring them up for a revote
they wanted this (100-0 i believe)
he’s shooting himself and the R’s in both feet, both knees, one elbow and hoping if they dont move around too much it wont hurt a lot

Unfortunately, McConnell has had the correct pulse when it comes to backlash for his (and Senate Republicans) overt hypocrisy and fuckery. He likely won’t face much backlash, and if he does, it won’t be for long.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:22:17pm

Back later. Hugs and kisses for everybody!

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:22:58pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

Well, you do live in the state that gave us Valley Girl speak, so…

Just sayin’…

///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:25:13pm

re: #113 Scottish Dragon

Thanks. Paraphrasing off the top of my head.

Saw that again the other night. Ahhhhhhh……

I really think that without Cpt. “10,000 - I’m only a poor, corrupt official” Renault it would have been too heavy.

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fern01  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:28:17pm

re: #4 MsJ

Shocker.

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trump’s reason is “hurting people” - it is his raison d’etre

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:28:54pm

re: #104 dangerman

1936, Rick was in the Abraham Lincoln Brigade ( I rewatched Casablanca New Year’s Eve)

Joining the Abraham Lincoln Brigade

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:31:24pm

re: #113 Scottish Dragon

Thanks. Paraphrasing off the top of my head.

i knew dat…
just playin.
have an srt file here

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:31:37pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

Oooo! Oooo! I know this one! The answer is that according to the Right, anyone advocating for reducing income inequality MUST not only be poor, but also give all their money to charity, AND have grown up in a dirt-floored shack with no indoor plumbing.

Also, the Right are really, really stupid.

And no refrigerator, microwave or television.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:33:27pm

re: #117 MsJ

GOP lawmaker suggests Trump use some of his own money to help pay for border wall

still…nope
money goes into the treasury
congress decides how to spend it
constituents are telling congress “no”

read the effing constitution you all are so enamored with

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:34:06pm

The Captain died. Tenille looks pretty good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:34:52pm

re: #126 MsJ

And no refrigerator, microwave or television.

And no internet access or cell phone, even if you’re homeless and the only way to find work is via the internet, and the only way for people to contact you to come in for an interview would be a cell phone.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:38:56pm

re: #119 Mike Lamb

Unfortunately, McConnell has had the correct pulse when it comes to backlash for his (and Senate Republicans) overt hypocrisy and fuckery. He likely won’t face much backlash, and if he does, it won’t be for long.

i guess were gonna see

i think trump has painted himself into a corner even if his base somewhat has his back

most of the polls are on the dems side so theyd be tarred and feathered by everyone who just voted for them if they give in so early and easily.

mcconells trying to protect him. i dont think its gonna work for long

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:39:31pm

re: #128 MsJ

The Captain died. Tenille looks pretty good.

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I’ve never seen a woman have the same haircut for like 50 years.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:41:52pm

Just a little venting…

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:44:02pm
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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:45:22pm

re: #127 dangerman

still…nope
money goes into the treasury
congress decides how to spend it
constituents are telling congress “no”

read the effing constitution you all are so enamored with

He’s a real estate developer, maybe he can get his kids to go buy the land and then build the wall and then donate the land to the US government. And by “donate” I mean sell at an unreasonable mark up.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:45:34pm

re: #128 MsJ

The Captain died. Tenille looks pretty good.

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Shit…the guy who was Super Dave Osborne died today too…he was also 76.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:49:11pm

re: #67 sagehen

If George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway were on the same side… that’s the good side.

On the same side as Stalin…

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:49:15pm

re: #135 darthstar

Shit…the guy who was Super Dave Osborne died today too…he was also 76.

And Mean Gene Okerlund.

The 1980’s childhoods of many of us have taken quite a hit today

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:51:42pm

re: #132 darthstar

Just a little venting…

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re: #132 darthstar

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:54:31pm

Cute break:
Not sure what’s happening here but it looks like fun:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:57:09pm

it’s not just that many people have “better” hair than trump, it’s that very few people have hair that shouts “i am pathologically insecure!!”

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2019 • 3:57:54pm

re: #137 KGxvi

And Mean Gene Okerlund.

The 1980’s childhoods of many of us have taken quite a hit today

Captain, Dave, Gene…Fuckin’ hat trick.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:00:15pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Stalin didn’t fight in Spain. Churchill and FDR were on the same side as Stalin.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:00:49pm
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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:02:45pm

re: #141 darthstar

Captain, Dave, Gene…Fuckin’ hat trick.

Gene?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:04:11pm

re: #144 MsJ

Gene?

Mean Gene from WWE.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:04:49pm

re: #145 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mean Gene from WWE.

Ok. I don’t know who that is.

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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:05:07pm

re: #144 MsJ

Gene?

Mean Gene Okerlund - he was a professional wrestling interviewer back in the day.

Macho Man & Mean Gene - The Cream Rises to the Top

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:08:43pm
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freetoken  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:09:27pm

re: #147 KGxvi

Okerlund was important in making stars. He was one of many in the wrestling business that found success in the Minnesota territory (AWA), back before Vince McMahon took over his father’s business and scarfed up all the talent around the country.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:13:35pm

re: #149 freetoken

Okerlund was important in making stars. He was one of many in the wrestling business that found success in the Minnesota territory (AWA), back before Vince McMahon took over his father’s business and scarfed up all the talent around the country.

Talent. Ok, sure, let’s go with that. 🙄

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:13:40pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:14:48pm
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fern01  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:14:54pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just heard a guy walking past my office window talking on his phone, and I swear every third word he said was “like.”

Where did, like, this verbal, like, thing come from? Does anybody, like, know?

It’s the replacement for “um” - which used to send me crazy (back in the day) when listening to people being interviewed on TV.

Edit: saw this above from Belafon as “uh” - maybe “um” is Australian English?

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fern01  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:15:48pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

NYTimes must think Bernie is in with a chance in 2020 if they are attacking him

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:17:29pm

GAH! THESE FUCKING PEOPLE!!

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:18:12pm
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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:20:36pm
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bd(Redacted)  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:23:24pm

Hi Lizards,

I guess the word of the day is “scathing” and like the word “literal” being used a lot before it, the folks saying it don’t seem to know the meaning of it.

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Sea Mexican  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:24:18pm

re: #65 The Vicious Babushka

Nancy is here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and she’s all outta bubble gum.

But she has many asses to kick.

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:27:53pm

re: #141 darthstar

Captain, Dave, Gene…Fuckin’ hat trick.

The “in threes” came in one day…shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:28:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:32:36pm

Of course the replies are what you would expect.
I’ve included the first I saw.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:38:41pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

Stalin didn’t fight in Spain. Churchill and FDR were on the same side as Stalin.

Hitler did. Franco allowed the Nazis to train their air force by bombing Spanish towns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:39:21pm

OK, I could have sworn Daryl “The Captain” Dragon died years ago

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:40:14pm
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KGxvi  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:40:57pm

re: #150 MsJ

Talent. Ok, sure, let’s go with that. 🙄

“Talent” in the sense of the performers. And while I know wrestling is for everyone, there’s a great deal of skill and talent in the job. They’re basically live action stunt performers telling stories with their pretend fights.

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:41:14pm

re: #164 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I could have sworn Daryl “The Captain” Dragon died years ago

IIRC, either Dragon or Tenille was real sick a couple of years back and they divorced to preserve the assets they still had.

Edit: Actually, it’s apparently more fucked up than that:

Tennille filed for divorce from Dragon in the State of Arizona on January 16, 2014, after 39 years of marriage. Dragon was unaware of the termination of his marriage until he was served with the divorce papers.[11] The divorce documents referenced health insurance or health issues, and Tennille had written on her blog in 2010 that Dragon’s neurological condition, similar to Parkinson’s, known as essential tremor, was characterized by such extreme tremors he could no longer play keyboards.[12][13] Dragon later stated that some of his health problems were the result of errors in dosing his medication, a problem which has since been fixed

en.wikipedia.org

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:41:55pm
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Citizen K  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:43:47pm

Once again, to be a Dem in this country is to be considered wrong by default, no matter fucking what. And that’s apparently the attitude from both sides.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:45:18pm

re: #166 KGxvi

“Talent” in the sense of the performers. And while I know wrestling isN’T for everyone, there’s a great deal of skill and talent in the job. They’re basically live action stunt performers telling stories with their pretend fights.

K. (Sweet smile)

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:47:53pm

re: #167 TedStriker

IIRC, either Dragon or Tenille was real sick a couple of years back and they divorced to preserve the assets they still had.

He was.

I didn’t get the impression that’s why they divorced. I read the article and it sounded like she loved him with everything she had but he wasn’t so great in the loving back department. Not wIth the same, vigor, for lack of a better word. But they always loved each other.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:48:08pm

re: #167 TedStriker

IIRC, either Dragon or Tenille was real sick a couple of years back and they divorced to preserve the assets they still had.

Late life medical is making paupers of all but the billionaires. No wonder suicides among the group are up. Especially 50 something white guys. Despair much? psychologytoday.com

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2019 • 4:52:23pm

re: #166 KGxvi

“Talent” in the sense of the performers. And while I know wrestling is for everyone, there’s a great deal of skill and talent in the job. They’re basically live action stunt performers telling stories with their pretend fights.

re: #170 MsJ

K. (Sweet smile)

No shit…professional wrestlers take a lot of shit for kayfabe and contrived storylines, but those who last long enough to make a decent career of it have to be very skilled to hit their marks every time and able to take a beating from all of the moves and stunts. So, I don’t begrudge the performers, because they’re as hard-as-nails as the best Hollywood stuntpeople.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:05:36pm

Call me crazy, but everybody keeps wondering whats up with the Mueller investigation, yet we hear no great clamor aimed at the IRS to wrap up that audit Trump keeps um, trumpeting. WTF? The IRS has taken down crime bosses a VP, many powerful types.

Get it done.

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piratedan  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:05:41pm

re: #169 Citizen K

the thing is, its the News Producers who are doing the framing here, they’re the ones speaking in the ear buds, indicating what is to be asked and how its to be asked. The thing is, these people are faceless, we don;t know who they are and why they are doing what they are doing and as we sit back and watch, people are getting more and more frustrated by this kabuki that is being presented as “news”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:08:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:11:25pm
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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:15:21pm

The discussion of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade reminded me of a University of Pittsburgh Professor who had fought in that brigade, Robert Colodny.

utimes.pitt.edu

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:17:44pm

Trump has no compassion and cares nothing about the suffering of federal workers. The Republicans want to privatize the whole government and certainly do not care about the well-being of federal workers. The question is: what can the Democrats do here? Will Pelosi be forced to cave in to protect the country? Putin is laughing at the destruction he is causing to the world.

Is there any way for someone other than the Majority Leader of the Senate to get a bill up for consideration?

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:29:25pm

re: #174 Unshaken Defiance

Call me crazy, but everybody keeps wondering whats up with the Mueller investigation, yet we hear no great clamor aimed at the IRS to wrap up that audit Trump keeps um, trumpeting. WTF? The IRS has taken down crime bosses a VP, many powerful types.

Get it done.

There is no audit to hurry up and finish.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:29:29pm

Who’s going to blink first, Trump, Mcconnell or Schumer?

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:33:59pm

re: #85 Patricia Kayden

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Would people here accept Reed if he became a Democrat?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:35:04pm
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:40:27pm

re: #159 Seafaring, coquito drinking Santa!

But she has many asses to kick.

She has five kids. I’m sure she knows how to do it.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:42:21pm

re: #166 KGxvi

“Talent” in the sense of the performers. And while I know wrestling is for everyone, there’s a great deal of skill and talent in the job. They’re basically live action stunt performers telling stories with their pretend fights.

Which is almost the description of Soap Operas.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:42:44pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:43:00pm
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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:43:56pm

re: #182 Belafon

Would people here accept Reed if he became a Democrat?

I’ll take anyone who’s elected and votes with us. Any vote will do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:46:29pm
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:47:33pm

re: #173 TedStriker

No shit…professional wrestlers take a lot of shit for kayfabe and contrived storylines, but those who last long enough to make a decent career of it have to be very skilled to hit their marks every time and able to take a beating from all of the moves and stunts. So, I don’t begrudge the performers, because they’re as hard-as-nails as the best Hollywood stuntpeople.

Wrestling is where stunt people have to do their own acting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:48:20pm
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:49:13pm

re: #180 MsJ

There is no audit to hurry up and finish.

Yeah, it was an excuse Trump made up, he just didn’t want to come out and say he wasn’t going to release his tax returns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:53:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:55:48pm

too late

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 5:58:14pm

re: #153 fern01

It’s the replacement for “um” - which used to send me crazy (back in the day) when listening to people being interviewed on TV.

Edit: saw this above from Belafon as “uh” - maybe “um” is Australian English?

There is a radio guy on local ESPN sports radio I sometimes listen to when I am in my kitchen. He used to be on a local TV station as a sports reporter.

He does the “um” thing all the damn time and it drives me crazy.

I thought radio and TV people were professionals and had learned not to do speech fillers like that.

He has a good show, good guests and co-host, etc. so I like to listen but the ums are just too much. I find myself doing an um right before he does, because you just know when they are coming.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:00:17pm

re: #153 fern01

It’s the replacement for “um” - which used to send me crazy (back in the day) when listening to people being interviewed on TV.

Edit: saw this above from Belafon as “uh” - maybe “um” is Australian English?

I’ve heard um as well. There’s a lot of different ways people do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:02:34pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:03:50pm

Why didn’t they call themselves DRAGON AND TENILLE? That would have kicked so much ass! Why the lame “Captain”? Was it because of the lame songs like “Muskrat Love”?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:05:06pm

re: #185 Belafon

Which is almost the description of Soap Operas.

Yep. I’ve often heard wrestling described as “soap opera for dudes”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:05:14pm

LOL

you go ahead and do that, Rudy…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:05:29pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Why didn’t they call themselves DRAGON AND TENILLE? That would have kicked so much ass! Why the lame “Captain”? Was it because of the lame songs like “Muskrat Love”?

And then I just saw this:

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:08:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:09:46pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:10:20pm

re: #166 KGxvi

“Talent” in the sense of the performers. And while I know wrestling is for everyone, there’s a great deal of skill and talent in the job. They’re basically live action stunt performers telling stories with their pretend fights.

I don’t know. You allow a fake sport and the next thing you know it leads to fake news and a fake President.

After all, Trump and the McMahons are tight.

The true slippery slope. It’s all acting…now in the White House.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:11:12pm

LOLWUT

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:12:07pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:16:11pm

re: #169 Citizen K

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Once again, to be a Dem in this country is to be considered wrong by default, no matter fucking what. And that’s apparently the attitude from both sides.

Sure would be nice if everyone would turn CNN off and write and tell them why.

Look how well it works on FOX programs when liberals raise hell with advertisers.

It will work on a network too if they start getting enough people to go through with the threat. Lower ratings will bring change fast.

Problem is…no one will do it.

I never watch CNN. And after the last few years I don’t think I ever will. And yes, I have told them why.

Did they ever wrap up their coverage of the Malaysian jet disappearance??? /

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:17:00pm

re: #195 ObserverArt

There is a radio guy on local ESPN sports radio I sometimes listen to when I am in my kitchen. He used to be on a local TV station as a sports reporter.

He does the “um” thing all the damn time and it drives me crazy.

I thought radio and TV people were professionals and had learned not to do speech fillers like that.

He has a good show, good guests and co-host, etc. so I like to listen but the ums are just too much. I find myself doing an um right before he does, because you just know when they are coming.

Actors and on-camera announcers have to be trained not to add “ums” and “uhs” in their speech, because such pauses are distracting and suggest the speaker is either hesitant or a little dim. But your guy is a local fellow, and that habit of his may be keeping him from moving up to the national level.

Regional accents are another issue. While it may be acceptable for someone with a noticeable Georgia accent to work in Atlanta, the national networks want announcers with “standard” American accents. Diane Sawyer had to lose her Kentucky accent to advance in her career, for example.

I have a friend and former colleague who is both a jazz singer and a French teacher. Her female students’ uptalk and vocal fry drove her nuts. (It was mostly women with those habits 15-20 years ago. Now men are doing it as well.*) Vocal fry, she says, over the long run will damage the speaker’s vocal cords, so that they may end up sounding croaky all the time.

* A YouTuber I follow, Nicholas Merton, speaks with a vocal fry. While he’s a pretty intelligent young guy, that particular vocal habit is so distracting that I can only listen to him speak for about 10 minutes before wanting to turn his video off.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:17:34pm
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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:18:04pm

re: #153 fern01

It’s the replacement for “um” - which used to send me crazy (back in the day) when listening to people being interviewed on TV.

Edit: saw this above from Belafon as “uh” - maybe “um” is Australian English?

In Scottish and Irish, “em”

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:19:24pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

I don’t know. You allow a fake sport and the next thing you know it leads to fake news and a fake President.

After all, Trump and the McMahons are tight.

The true slippery slope. It’s all acting…no in the White House.

Even had his own movie poster! Sanctions are Coming!

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:20:11pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

I don’t know. You allow a fake sport and the next thing you know it leads to fake news and a fake President.

After all, Trump and the McMahons are tight.

The true slippery slope. It’s all acting…no in the White House.

I think the previous actor president who fucked up everybody for the sake of the very rich, then committed light treason, might have set a precedent.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:21:23pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

Did they ever wrap up their coverage of the Malaysian jet disappearance??? /

Aliens did it.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:24:44pm

re: #208 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I don’t even get vocal fry. I listened and listened and tried to do it but couldn’t. How does one train oneself to do that?

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:25:06pm

I don’t have to work at the ski area tomorrow! First day off in 16 days!

Giphy

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:26:05pm

re: #210 austin_blue

In Scottish and Irish, “em”

In China, the pause phrases equivalent to “like” and “you know” are “ran hou” (therefore, so, after) and “ni ge” (you that). My weaker students will often insert these phrases in the middle of their English discourse, which is simultaneously amusing and infuriating.

The second one “ni ge” can also be mistaken for the n-word, which may have been part of the joke in this scene from Rush Hour.

Rush Hour - What’s Up My Nigga (1080p)

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:27:04pm

re: #213 MsJ

Aliens did it.

On Monday, the sky was really clear, so I pulled out my telescope. Even in Rockwall, at 10pm, I managed to see the Andromeda Galaxy. Some guy was walking by, so I asked if he wanted to see it. As I was changing lenses, he started asking me if I watched Ancient Aliens, and was trying to tell me that the Egyptians had help not only building the pyramids, but with their arrangement - they are positioned so that they match the arrangement of Orion’s Belt. I’m trying to explain to him that no, we had the ability, but he wasn’t buying it.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:27:18pm

Just tried to write McConnell. The form would not complete and then a message popped up saying the site is under maintenance.

Yeah sure.

I bet the fucker is getting hammered.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:28:11pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

I don’t have to work at the ski area tomorrow! First day off in 16 days!

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Are you going skiing?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:28:51pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

Did they ever wrap up their coverage of the Malaysian jet disappearance??? /


They did discover that the Boeing 777 has trouble flying without fuel. I never heard if they had uncovered this flaw in other aircraft.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:30:18pm

re: #217 Belafon

On Monday, the sky was really clear, so I pulled out my telescope. Even in Rockwall, at 10pm, I managed to see the Andromeda Galaxy. Some guy was walking by, so I asked if he wanted to see it. As I was changing lenses, he started asking me if I watched Ancient Aliens, and was trying to tell me that the Egyptians had help not only building the pyramids, but with their arrangement - they are positioned so that they match the arrangement of Orion’s Belt. I’m trying to explain to him that no, we had the ability, but he wasn’t buying it.

My mom watches that. She says it’s because she sees things about ancient Egypt (which is her lifelong passion), but I’m not buying it and I give her shit.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:30:18pm

re: #214 MsJ

I don’t even get vocal fry. I listened and listened and tried to do it but couldn’t. How does one train oneself to do that?

It’s not deliberate, AFAIK. It comes from not pushing enough air over your vocal cords to maintain a proper vibration. Singers, professional speakers and instrumentalists learn how to use their diaphragm and abs to support the air column. Vocal fry, OTOH, is like speaking while running out of air.

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bd(Redacted)  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:30:41pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

I don’t have to work at the ski area tomorrow! First day off in 16 days!

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enjoy !

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:31:10pm

re: #218 ObserverArt

Just tried to write McConnell. The form would not complete and then a message popped up saying the site is under maintenance.

Yeah sure.

I bet the fucker is getting hammered.

Or he just not interested in anything any American citizen has to say.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:31:10pm

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Regardless of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ school experiences (irrelevant AFAIC in any case), why do these wingnuts seem to make such a huge freakin’ deal out of her nickname being “Sandy”? WTF would they thinks school kids would call someone named “Alexandria”? “Fred”? “George”? SRSLY..

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:34:17pm

re: #225 Jay C

Regardless of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ school experiences (irrelevant AFAIC in any case), why do these wingnuts seem to make such a huge freakin’ deal out of her nickname being “Sandy”? WTF would they thinks school kids would call someone named “Alexandria”? “Fred”? “George”? SRSLY..

Alexandria is in Egypt and Egypt is Sandy. Makes perfect sense. 😁

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:34:42pm

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

And then I just saw this:

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The Captain also worked with The Beach Boys.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:34:49pm

re: #217 Belafon

On Monday, the sky was really clear, so I pulled out my telescope. Even in Rockwall, at 10pm, I managed to see the Andromeda Galaxy. Some guy was walking by, so I asked if he wanted to see it. As I was changing lenses, he started asking me if I watched Ancient Aliens, and was trying to tell me that the Egyptians had help not only building the pyramids, but with their arrangement - they are positioned so that they match the arrangement of Orion’s Belt. I’m trying to explain to him that no, we had the ability, but he wasn’t buying it.

People back then did geometry. They could measure angles ‘n’ stuff. Replicating the position of the stars in Orion’s belt would be child’s play.

That hypothesis, btw, is not part of mainstream science.
en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:35:41pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

The man is dumber than a box of shit. I’m embarrassed to be an American with this bloated sack of rancid orange lard squatting in the White House..

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:37:03pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Why didn’t they call themselves DRAGON AND TENILLE? That would have kicked so much ass! Why the lame “Captain”? Was it because of the lame songs like “Muskrat Love”?

“Muskrat Love” was written by Willis Allen Ramsey, a great Texas songwriter. He penned “Spider John”.

My wife played at his wedding in the early 80’s. The C&T version was schlock, though. They played it for QE2 at the White House. Go figure.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:41:35pm

This current shit with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a continuation of a larger scheme in which to be struggling economically is to be a stock character with a checklist of characteristics—how they dress, the precis of their biography—and failure to perform “poor” to the standards of the wingnut audience means you aren’t really suffering, you don’t deserve respect or sympathy…and you’re immoral in some way: a shirker, a fraud, or a criminal.

Settle in for two more years of variations on “you had a refrigerator, you weren’t really poor” and fast-moving goal-posts.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:41:58pm

re: #224 MsJ

Or he just not interested in anything any American citizen has to say.

I have gotten that same contact page to work before.

But, that was last year and much has changed since then.

Mitch has sold the last remainders of his soul and there was a big Democratic take-over of the house.

So yeah, he probably doesn’t want to hear it right now.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:43:21pm

This is a fascinating thread on that Whelan guy in Russia. A far worse telling on his background.

This guy is a scumball of Trumpian magnitude.

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:46:25pm

Well, the rain has cleared off after starting last night Oh 2 Hundred. Over twelve cm’s in the gauge (4.9”).

My backyard is going to be a mushroom farm by Monday>re: #233 MsJ

This is a fascinating thread on that Whelan guy in Russia. A far worse telling on his background.

This guy is a scumball of Trumpian magnitude.

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Stolen Valor, eh? Maybe we should let the Rooskies keep him. Whatsisname needs a roomie who can speak English.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:48:51pm

re: #132 darthstar

f00xvFkBss87fUrmE5gcRdMMxTZ8jzL4D6OQx0XXSLIQdhMbtuksdnuvRMgauNK3GXPFDGgcAxE=

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:50:11pm

re: #222 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It’s not deliberate, AFAIK. It comes from not pushing enough air over your vocal cords to maintain a proper vibration. Singers, professional speakers and instrumentalists learn how to use their diaphragm and abs to support the air column. Vocal fry, OTOH, is like speaking while running out of air.

Anything like the “creaky intonation” in Vietnamese?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:50:57pm

Move over pizza rat.

NYC Squirrel Enjoying An Egg Roll

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:51:20pm

re: #222 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It’s not deliberate, AFAIK. It comes from not pushing enough air over your vocal cords to maintain a proper vibration. Singers, professional speakers and instrumentalists learn how to use their diaphragm and abs to support the air column. Vocal fry, OTOH, is like speaking while running out of air.

No, I think it’s very deliberate. There’s a video of Kim Kardashian doing it, and you can tell she does it on purpose.

The thing I don’t get - people associate vocal fry with being successful and intelligent. I. Do. Not. Fucking. Get. It.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:55:16pm

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:56:02pm

re: #231 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

This current shit with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a continuation of a larger scheme in which to be struggling economically is to be a stock character with a checklist of characteristics—how they dress, the precis of their biography—and failure to perform “poor” to the standards of the wingnut audience means you aren’t really suffering, you don’t deserve respect or sympathy…and you’re immoral in some way: a shirker, a fraud, or a criminal.

Settle in for two more years of variations on “you had a refrigerator, you weren’t really poor” and fast-moving goal-posts.

The other day, someone was arguing that the Democrats were being hypocrites for wanting to raise taxes, which would include their own, and that they should just go ahead and give their money to the government right now instead. Yes, they will move any goalpost.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:58:37pm

re: #216 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

In China, the pause phrases equivalent to “like” and “you know” are “ran hou” (therefore, so, after) and “ni ge” (you that). My weaker students will often insert these phrases in the middle of their English discourse, which is simultaneously amusing and infuriating.

The second one “ni ge” can also be mistaken for the n-word, which may have been part of the joke in this scene from Rush Hour.

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Russell Peters In China

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:59:18pm

re: #239 Ace Rothstein

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You know, I’m no theologian but I’ve always been bothered by their attempts to cast Christ in line with their economic views. Yeah I wouldn’t quite say Christ was a socialist but what he taught definitely wasn’t right wing capitalism either.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2019 • 6:59:55pm

I’m watching ‘Mythbusters Jr.’ with Adam Savage and six super-genius kids. It’s actually pretty good. The kids are a lot of fun, and Adam’s having a good time hanging around a bunch of big-brain kids.

And they repeated my most difficult to watch Mythbusters moment - Tori Bellaci face-planting on a bicycle - in one of the montages.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:03:09pm

mediaite.com

Pretty weak sauce if you ask me.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:03:12pm

re: #238 makeitstop

No, I think it’s very deliberate. There’s a video of Kim Kardashian doing it, and you can tell she does it on purpose.

The thing I don’t get - people associate vocal fry with being successful and intelligent. I. Do. Not. Fucking. Get. It.

I think they are imitating one another. And yes, it supposedly connotes intelligence and seriousness, and early on its prevalence women adopted it to add “weight” to their speech. Now, men are doing it, too.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:03:45pm

I don’t usually like comments but the comments on this Yahoo article are hysterical.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:04:46pm
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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:05:23pm

re: #245 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I think they are imitating one another. And yes, it supposedly connotes intelligence and seriousness, and early on its prevalence women adopted it to add “weight” to their speech. Now, men are doing it, too.

There is nothing that annoys me more. Just watching TV, so many people use vocal fry. I want to change the channel when I hear it, but if I did I wouldn’t see more than ten seconds of any given show.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:05:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:06:57pm

re: #247 gocart mozart

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I wish both Trump and Mitt would take up knitting and at least pretending to be doting grandfathers.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:12:51pm

re: #250 HappyWarrior

I got fifty Trump Casino chips that says Trump doesn’t know the birthdays of any of his grandkids.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:13:35pm

re: #251 Ace Rothstein

I got fifty Trump Casino chips that says Trump doesn’t know the birthdays of any of his grandkids.

Double it, I bet he can’t remember their names or faces.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:14:50pm

re: #251 Ace Rothstein

I got fifty Trump Casino chips that says Trump doesn’t know the birthdays of any of his grandkids.

He doesn’t know the birthdays of anyone except for his own, and he remembers the names of everyone who forgot his birthday.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:17:31pm

The latest beneficiary of a one-year ad-free subscription from a Secret Santa, even if it’s already the new year:

CleverToad!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:21:53pm

I like how these freshmen are showing their workplace to the folks at home.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:22:29pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:24:29pm

The Conqueror (1956) John Wayne, Agnes Moorehead (Scene) .

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:25:08pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

Based on the Frederic Brown story, “Arena,” which deserves remembering.

Available here.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:28:16pm

Nothing in that article says she was fired. Deleting.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:29:40pm

re: #245 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I think they are imitating one another. And yes, it supposedly connotes intelligence and seriousness, and early on its prevalence women adopted it to add “weight” to their speech. Now, men are doing it, too.

Fashion!

It knows no bounds.

Some of the lyric from the following video:

There’s a brand new talk, but it’s not very clear
Oh bop
That people from good homes are talking this year
Oh bop, fashion It’s loud and tasteless and I’ve heard it before
Oh bop
You shout it while you’re dancing on the ole dance floor
Oh bop, fashion

David Bowie - Fashion (Official Video)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:31:59pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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That’s what this country is all about right there. Beautiful.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:33:59pm

re: #260 ObserverArt

Fashion!

It knows no bounds.

Some of the lyric from the following video:

There’s a brand new talk, but it’s not very clear
Oh bop
That people from good homes are talking this year
Oh bop, fashion It’s loud and tasteless and I’ve heard it before
Oh bop
You shout it while you’re dancing on the ole dance floor
Oh bop, fashion

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I always considered that song Bowie’s take on American politics.

There’s a brand new dance, but I don’t know its name
That people from bad homes do again and again
It’s big and it’s bland, full of tension and fear
They do it over there but we don’t do it here

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:38:33pm

re: #186 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sergei, I spent most of my career watching you Russian dipshits run into each other like a bunch of drunken Keystone Cops. Fished a few of you out of the drink myself. You’re welcome. You’re gonna have to work a whole lot harder to insult me, Comrade. pic.twitter.com

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 3, 2019

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:39:18pm

The media sucks big fat donkey balls.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:40:00pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

The media sucks big fat donkey balls.

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cowpucky

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:41:51pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

The media sucks big fat donkey balls.

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It’s Morning Joke…to be expected.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:52:10pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 2, 2019 • 7:54:17pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:01:43pm

re: #268 Single-handed sailor

Trump lawyer threatens his will be the last word over Mueller:

I’m dyin’ here!

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:04:26pm

re: #257 gocart mozart

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Oh, yeah, the movie that probably killed him. From WIKI:

The exterior scenes were shot near St. George, Utah, 137 miles (220 km) downwind of the United States government’s Nevada National Security Site. In 1953, 11 above-ground nuclear weapons tests occurred at the site as part of Operation Upshot-Knothole. The cast and crew spent many difficult weeks at the site, and Hughes later shipped 60 tons of dirt back to Hollywood in order to match the Utah terrain and lend realism to studio re-shoots.[7] The filmmakers knew about the nuclear tests[7] but the federal government assured residents that the tests caused no hazard to public health.[8]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:19:55pm

re: #178 ckkatz

The discussion of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade reminded me of a University of Pittsburgh Professor who had fought in that brigade, Robert Colodny.

utimes.pitt.edu

Yes, I had the privilege of taking classes with Dr. Colodny. They attempted to blacklist him in the 50s but he stood up to them.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:25:36pm

re: #255 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I like how these freshmen are showing their workplace to the folks at home.

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That’s the guy that Republican campaign ads kept calling “a big-city rapper.” They didn’t want to mention that he’s a Rhodes Scholar, and Harvard Law grad. (also, his sons’ names are Maxie and Coltrane).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:25:59pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:33:59pm

re: #237 I Would Prefer Not To

Move over pizza rat.

NYC Squirrel Enjoying An Egg Roll

That’s one fat squirrel

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:34:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:35:54pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

The media sucks big fat donkey balls.

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Uh no Walter. Just stop it okay. Trump and Romney come from the same rotten tree.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:36:21pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Why didn’t they call themselves DRAGON AND TENILLE? That would have kicked so much ass! Why the lame “Captain”? Was it because of the lame songs like “Muskrat Love”?

Back in the early 70s they were the house band at the famous Smoke House restaurant in Burbank (once owned by Danny Kaye).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:41:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:42:47pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:43:20pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

The media sucks big fat donkey balls.

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Willard is angling for another presidential run, hoping for a repeat of 1968, when a discredited incumbent declined to run, and a candidate who had been defeated 8 years earlier came back to win. The difference is that LBJ and Nixon belonged to different parties.

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:44:13pm

re: #270 William Lewis

Oh, yeah, the movie that probably killed him. From WIKI:

Maybe. He also smoked three to five packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day (!) from his teens until he had his right lung removed in ‘64, when he was 57. Then he switched to cigars. The Conquerer, by the way was a god-awful movie.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:45:13pm

If Trump ever played this game the others six players would join forces and take him out!

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:45:35pm

re: #275 gocart mozart

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Writing for the Smother’s Brothers show.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:46:06pm

This IPA in a can I’m drinking from Upslope Brewing Company is kicking my ass.

I’m partial to the brewery, good friend of mine is the chief canner at the brewery.

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:50:18pm

re: #284 teleskiguy

This IPA in a can I’m drinking from Upslope Brewing Company is kicking my ass.

I’m partial to the brewery, good friend of mine is the chief canner at the brewery.

I can’t do American IPA’s. It seems to be a contest to see who can make you wince the most.

Now, jumped up Scottish Heavies and Imperial Stout’s, those are in my wheelhouse.

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freetoken  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:51:04pm

Last night’s MegaMillions big winner was another New Yorker.

NY is scoring big on lottery taxes.

The winning ticket was sold on Long Island… yet again. That island has been a very lucky one for lottery players the past year.

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CleverToad  Jan 2, 2019 • 8:51:16pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

The latest beneficiary of a one-year ad-free subscription from a Secret Santa, even if it’s already the new year:

CleverToad!

Wow. I am astonished, and believe me, I am grateful for this good news on a day with a lousy cold and a broken handle on my o-lord-please-don’t-die-on-me 15-year-old fridge.
Thank you muchly, Santa, wherever you are!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:00:46pm
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Jay C  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:02:04pm

re: #273 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Vasquez Rocks also featured in a couple of episodes of
Firefly (where the IMDB “Goofs” page noted inadvertent shots of highway traffic on the “desert planet”) and various westerns - since the days when cine cameras were hand-cranked.

I remember going out there on a school field trip in the early ‘60s (not sure of the year, but definitely pre-Star Trek) - even then, it was an immediately-recognizable backdrop: as well as the “Foreign Legion Fort” set at its base. Where Capt. Kirk fought as well, IIRC.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:04:28pm

re: #271 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, I had the privilege of taking classes with Dr. Colodny. They attempted to blacklist him in the 50s but he stood up to them.

I also had a class with him. The only Abrahiam Lincoln Brigade anecdote he mentioned was that the US Embassy’s Military Attache dropped off a couple of BAR’s with them for test purposes. And then came back a few weeks later, collected them and disappeared.

The BAR stands for Browning Automatic rifle. It was developed in the late WW1 period as a way to help clear trenches. The Bren gun was the British equivalent and probably, ergonomically, a better weapon. The submachine gun family was developed for the same purpose, but using lower powered pistol ammunition.

Clyde Barrow much preferred the BAR to the ‘Tommy gun’. As someone described at one point, with the ‘Tommy Gun’ you could hide behind an engine block and the pistol ammunition would not penetrate. You could not do that with the BAR as the full-power rifle ammunition would go right through the engine block.

Yes, Colodny, for his anti-fascism was there-after identified as a militant communist and put on a lot of internal US watch lists. He was also called in front of the McCarthy Un-American hearings. And, as you described, at one point a right wing Pennsylvania State Legislator attempted to have him fired from the University of Pittsburgh. Obviously, that did not work.

Colodny also served in the US Army during WW2. At the beginning of the war he was screened out and sent to a special Army unit for soldiers with suspect political views. Soldiers suspected of Pro-German Nazi beliefs were in a neighboring unit, pro-Italian Fascists in another.

In his unit were militant trade unionists, ordinary trade unionists, and the veterans of the International Brigades. It took the intervention of journalist Drew Peterson, Eleanor Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt to get his particular unit disbanded. He spent the rest of the war in the Aleutians as an intelligence sergeant in an infantry unit preparing for the invasion of Japan. He obviously developed a reputation as a bright and competent man as he was tasked on a weekly basis to brief colonels and generals on his work.

More here:
(View the pdf. It does load fairly slow.)

An American Dark Age: Echoes and Memories
by Robert G. Colodny
journals.psu.edu

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:05:44pm
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sagehen  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:10:45pm

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Willard is angling for another presidential run, hoping for a repeat of 1968, when a discredited incumbent declined to run, and a candidate who had been defeated 8 years earlier came back to win. The difference is that LBJ and Nixon belonged to different parties.

The Dems still could have won 1968, except that their best choice was killed 2 months before the convention, and then the convention itself was a shitshow. (two shitshows — one inside, the other outside)

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:12:30pm

Frank Zappa wrote love songs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:12:31pm

re: #292 sagehen

The Dems still could have won 1968, except that their best choice was killed 2 months before the convention, and then the convention itself was a shitshow. (two shitshows — one inside, the other outside)

It’s too bad because I think Humphrey would have been a good president. Though despite my username, I probably would have been partial to RFK. Not sure what I would have made of McCarthy though.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:20:11pm

re: #292 sagehen

The Dems still could have won 1968, except that their best choice was killed 2 months before the convention, and then the convention itself was a shitshow. (two shitshows — one inside, the other outside)

I was an eyewitness. My mother was a delegate and the folks took me along so I could see the process in action. I saw. It had a lot to do with turning me to the dark side (the Republicans) for a long time.

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:20:24pm

re: #290 ckkatz

I also had a class with him. The only Abrahiam Lincoln Brigade anecdote he mentioned was that the US Embassy’s Military Attache dropped off a couple of BAR’s with them for test purposes. And then came back a few weeks later, collected them and disappeared.

The BAR stands for Browning Automatic rifle. It was developed in the late WW1 period as a way to help clear trenches. The Bren gun was the British equivalent and probably, ergonomically, a better weapon. The submachine gun family was developed for the same purpose, but using lower powered pistol ammunition.

Clyde Barrow much preferred the BAR to the ‘Tommy gun’. As someone described at one point, with the ‘Tommy Gun’ you could hide behind an engine block and the pistol ammunition would not penetrate. You could not do that with the BAR as the full-power rifle ammunition would go right through the engine block.

Yes, Colodny, for his anti-fascism was there-after identified as a militant communist and put on a lot of internal US watch lists. He was also called in front of the McCarthy Un-American hearings. And, as you described, at one point a right wing Pennsylvania State Legislator attempted to have him fired from the University of Pittsburgh. Obviously, that did not work.

Colodny also served in the US Army during WW2. At the beginning of the war he was screened out and sent to a special Army unit for soldiers with suspect political views. Soldiers suspected of Pro-German Nazi beliefs were in a neighboring unit, pro-Italian Fascists in another.

In his unit were militant trade unionists, ordinary trade unionists, and the veterans of the International Brigades. It took the intervention of journalist Drew Peterson, Eleanor Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt to get his particular unit disbanded. He spent the rest of the war in the Aleutians as an intelligence sergeant in an infantry unit preparing for the invasion of Japan. He obviously developed a reputation as a bright and competent man as he was tasked on a weekly basis to brief colonels and generals on his work.

More here:
(View the pdf. It does load fairly slow.)

An American Dark Age: Echoes and Memories
by Robert G. Colodny
journals.psu.edu

The BAR was an automatic 7.62 (30.06) machine gun. Same round as the Garand M-1, our best battle rifle of WW2.

It was usually fired in three-shot selection, because no one could control it when it was in full auto. The 20-round box magazine was inserted from below. Hell of light machine gun.

The English Bren gun fired a .303 Enfield round and has a top-loading magazine of similar size. People who have fired both generally prefer the Bren because it’s easier to reload, and you don’t have to look under the gun to do it when bad guys w/ guns are running toward you. Also, less dirt and jams.

If you want to see a Bren gun, rent Guy Ritchie’s Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. Fun flick.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:23:40pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:32:15pm

Just going to drop this right here, and walk away

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:32:47pm

Hi. I see the world hasn’t ended yet.

Since we haven’t bought groceries since the first part of November and our meals were starting to become “interesting,” we went into town this afternoon to see if we could pack a Smart with groceries like you pack Volkswagens with college students.

$600 later and three store carry-out carts, the baggers were impressed as I fit all that in the back of our car. They were convinced we would need to make two trips. Didn’t even crush one potato chip.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:33:42pm

re: #298 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just going to drop this right here, and walk away

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Remember when you weren’t a joke Rudy?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:35:46pm

re: #298 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just going to drop this right here, and walk away

Still banging on that group of Wiccans in New York who held a binding spell against potential evil on Trump, is he? Conservatives are never going to let that go. Wicca is also what sunk Christine O’Donnell’s run for office (I am not a witch) after oppo research came up she was a Wiccan as a teenager.

I suppose conservatives would be equally offended say if Christians were identified by the works of Jesus in the Bible.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:36:53pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:42:01pm

Photos from the far side.

Spoiler: looks like the near side

bbc.co.uk

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:42:58pm

MIT Developing Shrink-Ray. Steve Martin To Sue. (Carlos Sagan at Wonkette)

It’s not actually a shrink ray, as the article explains.

So, it’s not exactly DIRECT miniaturization of objects. The scientists who came up with the process call it “implosion fabrication” and it’s more like 3D photocopying with the shrink setting on your machine set to 1/1000. How does it work? I’m glad you asked!

(more)

Essentially they picked a very absorbent material (the stuff in disposable diapers) to serve as a scaffold for the end product. They stick their stuff to it to make the object, then shrink the scaffold with a particular acid that shrinks the diaper material by a factor of ten in each dimension.

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2019 • 9:56:41pm

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹

MIT Developing Shrink-Ray. Steve Martin To Sue. (Carlos Sagan at Wonkette)

It’s not actually a shrink ray, as the article explains.

(more)

Essentially they picked a very absorbent material (the stuff in disposable diapers) to serve as a scaffold for the end product. They stick their stuff to it to make the object, then shrink the scaffold with a particular acid that shrinks the diaper material by a factor of ten in each dimension.

Can we use it on Drumpf’s ego?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2019 • 10:03:59pm

re: #305 austin_blue

Can we use it on Drumpf’s ego?

Probably not powerful enough.


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