Classics Illustrated #26 - Frankenstein (1945)

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I bought this rare 1945 edition of Frankenstein (Classics Illustrated #26) at a used bookstore in Hawaii when I was a mere sprout, and it stayed in remarkably good condition considering that nobody took any special efforts to preserve it. The interior pages are also in great shape.

UPDATE at 3/27/10 6:52:01 pm:

Comic book aficionado ‘ckb’ has informed me that this book actually dates from the late 60s, not 1945 as I originally believed; I was fooled by the 1945 copyright mark on the first page. Still rare but not as rare as the 10-cent 1945 edition.

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1 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:41:08pm

Guy could use some socialized medicine >>

2 marsl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:44:05pm

That book may now worth some thousands of US dollars....

3 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:45:42pm

re: #2 marsl

That book may now worth some thousands of US dollars...

Ebay!

4 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:46:14pm

What a Marvel you have uncovered with these comics, Charles.

Just a beautiful slice of Americana. To be preserved.

5 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:47:16pm

Frankenstein was chased by a dogsled?

6 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:48:02pm

OT: Peter Gabriel's totally amazing cover album/art project finally came out, and should be a 'must buy'

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

7 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:48:46pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Frankenstein was chased by a dogsled?

Haha good catch. Those classic comics are pretty cool. My dad told me he used to read them when he wanted a easier way of having to read the classics but he enjoyed them too.

8 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:48:53pm

Bulldogs!

Why do they have a 15 year old coach one wonders?

9 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:49:45pm

re: #2 marsl

That book may now worth some thousands of US dollars...

I will give you 2 silver dollars for it ;)

10 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:50:19pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Frankenstein was chased by a dogsled?

Must be Iditarodstein.

11 The Curmudgeon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:50:58pm

Ah, a comic book character I can relate to!

12 Ojoe  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:50:59pm

I had an english teacher in high school who was hip to the students who tried to sleaze by with reading the Classic (Comics) Illustrated, instead of say, the whole book Ivanhoe, and he would booby trap the tests with questions which would tell him which students were trying to sleaze by.

13 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:53:03pm

So umm Charles what you are telling us after all of these drooly (and yes I mean I am envious) comic posts is that you are rich?

14 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:53:35pm

re: #12 Ojoe

I had an english teacher in high school who was hip to the students who tried to sleaze by with reading the Classic (Comics) Illustrated, instead of say, the whole book Ivanhoe, and he would booby trap the tests with questions which would tell him which students were trying to sleaze by.

Bastard, I remember that Ivanhoe comic well. It was absolutely right on. At least I think it was...
/Man in the Iron Mask too!

15 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:53:51pm

That Frankenstein is very human looking. He has Humphrey Bogart hands.
Image: Annex+-+Bogart,+Humphrey+%28Maltese+Falcon,+The%29_NRFPT_06.jpg

16 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:54:03pm

If any one really want to make money on comics I suggest they take a look at Stan Lee's company POW entertainment... (POWN) they just came down a bit but are still up over 600% this year.

17 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:54:59pm

re: #15 jaunte

That Frankenstein is very human looking. He has Humphrey Bogart hands.
[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

made me look & compare. hmmm.

18 HappyWarrior  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:55:05pm

When one thinks about it. Classic comics are a great way to get kids in to the classics and reading as a whole. I need to read more of the classics myself. I still read mostly non-fiction but I have been reading some Shakespeare lately.

19 Ojoe  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:56:39pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

MacBeth Dry Cleaners.

20 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:57:13pm

re: #16 brookly red

If any one really want to make money on comics I suggest they take a look at Stan Lee's company POW entertainment... (POWN) they just came down a bit but are still up over 600% this year.

pfft!....I roll my spliffs with those things

21 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:58:01pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Frankenstein was chased by a dogsled?

It's part of the original story if I remember. I remember seeing a Frankenstein movie in the 70s starring Michael Sarrazin. I was a pre teen and if I recall, without looking at that link (lol), the creature was actually built as an adonis, gorgeous and then slowly started to deteriorate until he became the monster. And there was more of an emotional story between Dr. Frank and his creation. Anyhoo, one or both of them end up in a terrible snowy landscape, stormy, ice mountains and if you haven't read it, I won't say the rest heh

22 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:58:25pm

Bulldogs 55-54!

23 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 5:58:55pm

I grew up on Classics Illustrated. And, in contrast to all the screaming from snobs at the time, they did not spoil me for the real classics. It made me go and read them. Dumas, among others, I discovered through that comic book series. I'm eternally grateful to them.

24 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:00:22pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Frankenstein was chased by a dogsled?

No... the monster was... in the original story, the very takes place at the North Pole.

"Once home, Frankenstein marries his cousin Elizabeth and, possessing full knowledge of and belief in the monster's threat, prepares for a fight to the death with the monster. He doesn't want Elizabeth to be frightened at the sight of the monster, so he asks her to stay in her room for the night. The monster nevertheless kills Elizabeth. Grief stricken by the deaths of his wife, William, Justine, Clerval and Elizabeth, Frankenstein's father dies. Frankenstein then vows to pursue the monster until one of them destroys the other. Over months of pursuit, the two end up in the Arctic Circle near the North Pole."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

25 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:00:42pm

re: #21 marjoriemoon

It's part of the original story if I remember. I remember seeing a Frankenstein movie in the 70s starring Michael Sarrazin. I was a pre teen and if I recall, without looking at that link (lol), the creature was actually built as an adonis, gorgeous and then slowly started to deteriorate until he became the monster. And there was more of an emotional story between Dr. Frank and his creation. Anyhoo, one or both of them end up in a terrible snowy landscape, stormy, ice mountains and if you haven't read it, I won't say the rest heh

It is. Towards the end of the novel, Frankenstein has chased the monster to the arctic circle seeking revenge after the murder of his brother.

26 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:01:16pm

re: #20 albusteve

pfft!...I roll my spliffs with those things

and it shows...

27 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:01:57pm

OT, more details about the Cantor bullet of doom:

Later Thursday, however, Richmond police said in a news release that the bullet had been fired into the air around 1 a.m. Tuesday. It finished its random arc back to earth at a sharp downward trajectory, breaking a window pane on the bottom floor of the two-story brick building where Cantor's campaign leases the top floor.

Random arc of doom

28 RogueOne  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:02:10pm

That would be a comic I would keep.

OT: BUTLER BABY! Now THAT is a big fuckin' deal!

29 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:03:11pm

re: #28 RogueOne

That would be a comic I would keep.

OT: BUTLER BABY! Now THAT is a big fuckin' deal!

I'm stunned...Just stunned

30 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:03:21pm

re: #26 brookly red

and it shows...

once made a bong out of a 1940 Capt America

31 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:03:22pm

re: #6 windsagio

OT: Peter Gabriel's totally amazing cover album/art project finally came out, and should be a 'must buy'

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I own everything he has ever done (many in multiple formats), but yet I am not excited about cover tunes. Seems like someone who has released so little original music since 1992 ought to have some more songs of his own to unleash upon the world.

32 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:03:48pm

re: #30 albusteve

once made a bong out of a 1940 Capt America

Did it give you super powers?

33 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:04:29pm

re: #32 Floral Giraffe

Did it give you super powers?

only the ability to fly

34 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:04:53pm

OK this is just too slow...

/Dr. Frankenstein was a progressive !

that should do it.

35 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:06:04pm

re: #34 brookly red

OK this is just too slow...

/Dr. Frankenstein was a progressive !

that should do it.

Yea... and you see how his health reform worked out.

36 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:06:25pm

This is just disgusting.

Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minnesota, was one of several members of Congress who reported receiving obscene and threatening letters after voting for the health care reform bill passed by Democrats on Sunday.

But her spokeswoman told CNN that inside one letter received Thursday was a condom, removed from its original packaging.

Stay classy, creepy wingnuts!

37 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:06:41pm

re: #29 HoosierHoops

I'm stunned...Just stunned

Never underestimate hoops in the home of the hoosiers.

38 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:07:00pm

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

Yea... and you see how his health reform worked out.

So that's what the death panels are for.

39 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:07:32pm

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

Yea... and you see how his health reform worked out.

well I did like the ending...

40 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:07:50pm

re: #38 ~Fianna

So that's what the death panels are for.

Abby Normal.

41 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:07:57pm

Butler!

42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:08:05pm

re: #21 marjoriemoon

Remember when the monster pulled the head off of his bride in that one? That was my favorite Frankenstein movie.

43 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:08:45pm

Puttin' On the Ritz

44 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:08:57pm

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

Abby Normal.

can you be more specific ?

45 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:09:07pm

re: #6 windsagio

Another must buy, at least IMO: She & Him -- Volume Two

I downloaded it two days ago, and between it and Hold Time, I've been on a non-stop M. Ward kick. It's been pretty cool.

46 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:09:16pm

re: #42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember when the monster pulled the head off of his bride in that one? That was my favorite Frankenstein movie.

how time did Karloff play Frankenstein anyway?

47 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:09:28pm

re: #37 The Shadow Do

Never underestimate hoops in the home of the hoosiers.

Butler Wins!
Did we just witness the Hoosiers movie tonight?
Wow!

48 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:10:02pm

Continuing the Dominionist Christians are no friends of the Jews theme from the last thread:

A theological anti-Semitism exists in the Dominionist plan to replace of Old Testament Israel with the Church, often called the "New Israel" (i.e., "replacement theology" -- the church replaces the Jews as the new or true Israel, and Israel has no future as a distinct nation within God's plan). They believe that Israel does not have a future different from any other nation. Historically, replacement theology has been the theological foundation upon which anti-Semitism has been built within the confines of professing Christianity. While reconstructionists do believe that the individual Jews will be converted to Christ in mass in the future, almost none of them believe that national Israel has a future, and thus, the Church has completely taken over the promises of national Israel. (Reconstructionist David Chilton said that "ethnic Israel was excommunicated for its apostasy and will never again be God's Kingdom. ... the Bible does not tell of any future plan for Israel as a special nation." Reconstructionists believe that the Church is now that new nation, which is why Christ destroyed the Jewish state. Reconstructionists DeMar and Leithart have said, "In destroying Israel, Christ transferred the blessings of the kingdom from Israel to a new people, the church."

49 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:10:12pm

re: #47 HoosierHoops

Butler Wins!
Did we just witness the Hoosiers movie tonight?
Wow!

We did!

50 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:10:18pm

re: #42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember when the monster pulled the head off of his bride in that one? That was my favorite Frankenstein movie.

hehe Mine too. I think I cried at the end. I was always a sucker for the Creature.

It's just a jump to the left....

51 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:10:40pm

re: #34 brookly red

OK this is just too slow...

/Dr. Frankenstein was a progressive !

that should do it.

Better:

the "Frankenstein" and "Bride of Frankenstein" films from the early 1930s were directed by James Whale, who was openly gay even way back then. He killed himself by drowning in his swimming pool. There is much debate over whether or not "Bride of Frankenstein" is filled with "gay themes", whatever that means.

52 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:11:59pm

re: #50 marjoriemoon

hehe Mine too. I think I cried at the end. I was always a sucker for the Creature.

It's just a jump to the left...

And then a step to the right...

53 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:12:19pm

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

It goes without saying, he would have an enormous schwanzstücke!

54 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:12:38pm

re: #52 brookly red

And then a step to the right...

rofl

It should stop there, you know, to truly get all the comical goodness.

55 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:13:21pm

re: #51 negativ

Better:

the "Frankenstein" and "Bride of Frankenstein" films from the early 1930s were directed by James Whale, who was openly gay even way back then. He killed himself by drowning in his swimming pool. There is much debate over whether or not "Bride of Frankenstein" is filled with "gay themes", whatever that means.

I never can figure out what you are saying, but you do do your homework...

56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:13:23pm

re: #52 brookly red

And then a step to the right...

Put your hands on your hips...

57 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:14:00pm

re: #51 negativ

Better:

the "Frankenstein" and "Bride of Frankenstein" films from the early 1930s were directed by James Whale, who was openly gay even way back then. He killed himself by drowning in his swimming pool. There is much debate over whether or not "Bride of Frankenstein" is filled with "gay themes", whatever that means.

Clearly, I was missing a large portion of this story.

58 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:14:55pm

re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Put your hands on your hips...

You bring your knees in tight

59 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:15:11pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

Continuing the Dominionist Christians are no friends of the Jews theme from the last thread:

but but but I thought they just wanted to perfect me...

60 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:15:35pm

What knockers! Why thank you doctor!

61 darthstar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:15:38pm

Speaking of lifestyles (and lifestyle changes)...David Frum has left the AEI

Dear Arthur,
This will memorialize our conversation at lunch today. Effective immediately, my position as a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute is terminated. I appreciate the consideration that delays my emptying of my office until after my return from travel next week. Premises will be vacated no later than April 9.

I have had many fruitful years at the American Enterprise Institute, and I do regret this abrupt and unexpected conclusion of our relationship.

Very truly yours,
David Frum

62 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:15:40pm

I challenge anyone to watch this and not immediately think of The Monster from Young Frankenstein:

Google Video

vs.

Youtube Video

The resemblance is amusing.

63 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:16:40pm

My stomach feels funny.

64 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:16:48pm

I wonder, how many here are old enough to have read the CI versions of "The Count of Monte Christo" or "The Man in the Iron Mask"?

Eventually, CI led me straight to Edith Hamilton, who led me straight to Homer, who led me, by circuitous and lonely seas, to "Ulysses". I was never the same.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

65 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:16:52pm

re: #21 marjoriemoon

It's part of the original story if I remember. I remember seeing a Frankenstein movie in the 70s starring Michael Sarrazin. I was a pre teen and if I recall, without looking at that link (lol), the creature was actually built as an adonis, gorgeous and then slowly started to deteriorate until he became the monster. And there was more of an emotional story between Dr. Frank and his creation. Anyhoo, one or both of them end up in a terrible snowy landscape, stormy, ice mountains and if you haven't read it, I won't say the rest heh

That movie version was a quite good costume drama, too.

66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:17:22pm

re: #55 brookly red

I thought you were trying to stir up commentary with your comment #34. I was just trying to help out.

67 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:17:28pm

re: #63 cliffster

My stomach feels funny.

Please, give us the blow by blow as it happens.

68 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:17:42pm

re: #62 negativ

Being a Peter Boyle look-a-like is probably not terribly uncommon lol

69 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:17:57pm

re: #60 Irenicum

What knockers! Why thank you doctor!

Blucher!

70 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:18:05pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

I wonder, how many here are old enough to have read the CI versions of "The Count of Monte Christo" or "The Man in the Iron Mask"?

Eventually, CI led me straight to Edith Hamilton, who led me straight to Homer, who led me, by circuitous and lonely seas, to "Ulysses". I was never the same.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

I had them all and read them all. It lead me to Coney Island.

71 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:18:18pm

re: #36 ~Fianna

This is just disgusting.


Yeah.
A condom out of its wrapping is so odd too.
I guess it was the grossest thing they could get their hands on at home that fit in an envelope?
So disgusting and odd.

72 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:19:13pm

re: #66 negativ

I thought you were trying to stir up commentary with your comment #34. I was just trying to help out.

well yes & I thank you, I just need a translator...

73 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:19:48pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

I wonder, how many here are old enough to have read the CI versions of "The Count of Monte Christo" or "The Man in the Iron Mask"?

Eventually, CI led me straight to Edith Hamilton, who led me straight to Homer, who led me, by circuitous and lonely seas, to "Ulysses". I was never the same.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

I started right out with the Grateful Dead myself

74 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:19:57pm

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

but but but I thought they just wanted to perfect me...

more fiber should do it...

75 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:20:05pm

Hey Ludwig, if you still like chess, you might be interested in this.

76 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:20:39pm

re: #51 negativ

My favorite college class was "the history of fantasy and science fiction movies. Taught by a prof. with access to original prints from one of the movie studios. Fritz Lang's M and Metropolis!

77 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:20:55pm

re: #65 The Sanity Inspector

That movie version was a quite good costume drama, too.

I haven't seen it since I was a kid. I always wondered if it was really good or I just thought it was, being 12 and all. Maybe it's on DVD somewhere.

78 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:21:21pm

re: #73 albusteve

I started right out with the Grateful Dead myself

Well, that would explain a few things, Steve-O!

79 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:21:35pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

Please, give us the blow by blow as it happens.

want pics?

80 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:21:48pm

re: #71 webevintage

Yeah.
A condom out of its wrapping is so odd too.
I guess it was the grossest thing they could get their hands on at home that fit in an envelope?
So disgusting and odd.

I wonder if it was "removed from the wrapping" or "removed from the wrapping".

These people are just disgusting.

81 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:22:26pm

I just wanted to crow about having the exact same posts and karma! Thanks for all the love you guys!

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:22:35pm

re: #68 marjoriemoon

Being a Peter Boyle look-a-like is probably not terribly uncommon lol

I best friend looks exactly like Peter Boyle. Scary, looks like Peter Boyle.

Sometimes he says "Holy Crap" like Raymond's dad, and sends me into conniptions.

83 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:22:38pm

re: #77 marjoriemoon

I haven't seen it since I was a kid. I always wondered if it was really good or I just thought it was, being 12 and all. Maybe it's on DVD somewhere.

It is.

84 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:23:46pm

re: #75 The Sanity Inspector

Hey Ludwig, if you still like chess, you might be interested in this.

No one who has ever liked chess stops liking chess.

We just get to college and get beaten by a Junior Chess Champion from West Virginia who handicaps you half his board and still beats your ass into the ground in an endgame involving a king, a knight, and a pawn on his side. And then we only ever play with ourselves after that.

85 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:23:53pm

re: #81 Irenicum

I just wanted to crow about having the exact same posts and karma! Thanks for all the love you guys!

just messed that up for ya :p

86 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:23:54pm

re: #79 cliffster

want pics?

No thanks.

Although, my experience with food poisoning was nothing happened until the next day. Then a crazy death-like adventure.

87 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:24:03pm

Good evening all!

So some of the folks crowing in Thread #1 today about Liberal Domestics being just as bad as Conservative Domestics today had to *eat* crow in Thread #3, eh?

Priceless!

Hence the 24-hour rule, for the newbs.

88 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:24:44pm

re: #64 Cato the Elder

I wonder, how many here are old enough to have read the CI versions of "The Count of Monte Christo" or "The Man in the Iron Mask"?

Eventually, CI led me straight to Edith Hamilton, who led me straight to Homer, who led me, by circuitous and lonely seas, to "Ulysses". I was never the same.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

You are not unique, Cato. Well, maybe somewhat...

89 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:24:48pm

re: #81 Irenicum

I have your avatar in my home. Lovely.

90 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:25:04pm

re: #85 marjoriemoon

Now whatcha have to go and do that for? ;)

91 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:25:21pm

re: #61 darthstar

Speaking of lifestyles (and lifestyle changes)...David Frum has left the AEI

Spoke truth to power, eh?

92 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:25:51pm

re: #69 The Sanity Inspector

Blucher!

Pardon me, boy. Is this the Transylvania Station?

93 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:25:53pm

re: #84 Cato the Elder

No one who has ever liked chess stops liking chess.

We just get to college and get beaten by a Junior Chess Champion from West Virginia who handicaps you half his board and still beats your ass into the ground in an endgame involving a king, a knight, and a pawn on his side. And then we only ever play with ourselves after that.

Not your best phrase.

94 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:26:07pm

re: #84 Cato the Elder

No one who has ever liked chess stops liking chess.

We just get to college and get beaten by a Junior Chess Champion from West Virginia who handicaps you half his board and still beats your ass into the ground in an endgame involving a king, a knight, and a pawn on his side. And then we only ever play CHESS with ourselves after that.

FTFY... at least, I think.

95 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:26:14pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

No thanks.

Although, my experience with food poisoning was nothing happened until the next day. Then a crazy death-like adventure.

Yeah, it's usually over pretty fast. The hours seem like weeks though. I think I'm going to send some bourbon down there to fight on my behalf.

96 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:26:17pm

Well that Frum story is a bit more interesting when you add in this tidbit from Bruce Bartlett:
Since, he is no longer affiliated with AEI, I feel free to say publicly something he told me in private a few months ago. He asked if I had noticed any comments by AEI "scholars" on the subject of health care reform. I said no and he said that was because they had been ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

[Link: capitalgainsandgames.com...]

How can you be a "think tank" if you do allow your thinkers to think outloud?

97 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:26:30pm

Expect to see more exploding heads on the far right when Congress goes into Spring Recess.

With Congress on break, Obama could jam appointees through

Here is some background about how many times previous administrations have done it (from the story).

"Republican President George W. Bush bypassed the Senate confirmation process this way at least 171 times, the Congressional Research Service found. President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, did it 139 times."

/Not that it will make one wit of difference.

98 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:26:42pm

re: #90 Irenicum

Really? Are you a Brancusi fan too? I love his stuff.

99 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:27:18pm

re: #90 Irenicum

Now whatcha have to go and do that for? ;)

I couldn't help but give you one ringy dingy, gracious.

Youtube Video
100 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:27:26pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

Oops, meant to ask that of you, not me!

101 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:27:39pm

re: #97 Bubblehead II

Given the amount of obstruction of appointees, I feel it's completely legitimate of him to use that power.

102 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:27:50pm

re: #87 austin_blue

Good evening all!

So some of the folks crowing in Thread #1 today about Liberal Domestics being just as bad as Conservative Domestics today had to *eat* crow in Thread #3, eh?

Priceless!

Hence the 24-hour rule, for the newbs.

/it was a 48 hr rule... the cutbacks are starting already!

103 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:27:55pm

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

but but but I thought they just wanted to perfect me...

Exactly, apparently you're doing it wrong and need to get on the fast track. Like Federal Express. Ann's point is that you have too many rules that tend to get in the way, stop things up and make everything difficult, essentially she's saying that being a practicing Jew is like eating at P.F. Changs.

But that's not insulting, right?

104 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:28:03pm

re: #68 marjoriemoon

Hi, Marjorie! This is the movie I think of when I read you nic:

Marjorie Morningstar:

Youtube Video
105 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:28:10pm

re: #96 webevintage

Well that Frum story is a bit more interesting when you add in this tidbit from Bruce Bartlett:
Since, he is no longer affiliated with AEI, I feel free to say publicly something he told me in private a few months ago. He asked if I had noticed any comments by AEI "scholars" on the subject of health care reform. I said no and he said that was because they had been ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

[Link: capitalgainsandgames.com...]

How can you be a "think tank" if you do allow your thinkers to think outloud?

Spin Tank?

106 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:28:16pm

re: #98 Irenicum

Really? Are you a Brancusi fan too? I love his stuff.

Yes, but actually our little piece came as a gift. I love it though, brings a bit of happiness every day - reminds you of what it's all about.

107 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:28:28pm

re: #99 marjoriemoon

I love Lilly Tomlin!

108 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:28:29pm

re: #100 Irenicum

I knew that!

109 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:29:01pm

re: #102 brookly red

/it was a 48 hr rule... the cutbacks are starting already!

Ouch. Yes, you're right.

Brain fart. Senior moment.

110 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:29:20pm

re: #105 austin_blue

Spin Tank?

groupthink tank.

111 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:30:37pm

re: #101 Obdicut

Yep. here is (what I think) the money line.

However, Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said that if Republicans hold up qualified nominees, "I don't think the president has much of a choice but to begin to look at that process. His government needs to function, and if the idea here is that you obstruct to the point that you try to make him fail, I think that he's got to use whatever process available to run the government."

112 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:30:50pm

re: #109 austin_blue

Ouch. Yes, you're right.

Brain fart. Senior moment.

I personally observe a 32 hours and 17 minute rule. I've looked into that a lot and that's the exact point where the credibility and doubt lines cross.

113 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:31:06pm

re: #97 Bubblehead II

Expect to see more exploding heads on the far right when Congress goes into Spring Recess.

Chief Justice Roberts seems to think recess appointments are a good idea:
[Link: wonkroom.thinkprogress.org...]

114 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:31:13pm

re: #81 Irenicum

I just wanted to crow about having the exact same posts and karma! Thanks for all the love you guys!

Your ratio is now greater than 1:1, so you are officially a skywalker now!

115 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:31:40pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

groupthink tank.

In any case, it puts a torpedo into the hull of the AEI's credibility.

116 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:31:59pm

re: #84 Cato the Elder

No one who has ever liked chess stops liking chess.

We just get to college and get beaten by a Junior Chess Champion from West Virginia who handicaps you half his board and still beats your ass into the ground in an endgame involving a king, a knight, and a pawn on his side. And then we only ever play with ourselves after that.

I enjoy chess, although I'm pretty sure I've never won a single game against anyone who remotely knew what they were doing. Even though it's usually not much fun to have your laughable inadequacy mocked (usually by a computer of all things, in my case), I still play.

And I find this stuff endlessly fascinating, for some arguably pathological reason.

117 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:32:10pm

re: #114 The Sanity Inspector

I can feel the force coursing through me!

118 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:32:17pm

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Not your best phrase.

Nice catch! LOL!

119 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:32:43pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

groupthink tank.

the only difference between a think tank & a web log is an endowment or sponsor...

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:33:26pm

re: #87 austin_blue

Good evening all!

So some of the folks crowing in Thread #1 today about Liberal Domestics being just as bad as Conservative Domestics today had to *eat* crow in Thread #3, eh?

Priceless!

Hence the 24-hour rule, for the newbs.

Oh, don't talk such nonsense. The Weathermen! Don't forget the Weathermen!!! And some Code Pink chick tried to put handcuffs on Karl Rove!!

121 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:33:30pm

I swear to God.
Colon Flow commercials may be the most disgusting ads on TV.
Right now.
On MSNBC.

122 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:33:52pm

re: #84 Cato the Elder

No one who has ever liked chess stops liking chess.

We just get to college and get beaten by a Junior Chess Champion from West Virginia who handicaps you half his board and still beats your ass into the ground in an endgame involving a king, a knight, and a pawn on his side. And then we only ever play with ourselves after that.


What you say is so. I recently bought an original edition of "Bobby Fisher Teaches Chess". I bought it because when I was 11-12 years old it was an inspiration. I spent an enormous amount of time studying this primer and then moved on to other chess books. I haven't played in 30 years, but if challenged, I have the book here to brush up with.

123 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:34:19pm

OK, we are past 100. I need some help.

How do you view the page? I find that if I'm in spy I cannot up ding (my favorite thing, obviously) but can read the comments & respond.

Do you all have 2 windows open & jump? or do you ding at other times?

Sorry, it's been bugging me that I'm missing the groove.

124 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:34:20pm

I see ShaunP takes offense to my 32 hour and 17 minute rule. How odd.

125 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:35:06pm

re: #119 brookly red

the only difference between a think tank & a web log is an endowment or sponsor...

Enough of endowments--we've already discussed the Monster's.

126 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:35:46pm

re: #124 cliffster

I see ShaunP takes offense to my 32 hour and 17 minute rule. How odd.

try giving him some cheese...

127 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:35:52pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

I find his version of The Kiss much more beautiful than Rodan's because they are so equal. I also love quite a few of his other works as shown here. He was a student of Rodan but obviously broke away and became a brilliant artist/sculptor himself.

128 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:35:54pm

re: #117 Irenicum

I can feel the force coursing through me!

Taco Bell?

129 Uninformed Opinion  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:36:13pm

re: #113 webevintage

Chief Justice Roberts seems to think recess appointments are a good idea:
[Link: wonkroom.thinkprogress.org...]

Take the ball and run with it! There is going to be no more cooperation now than in the past.

130 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:36:26pm

re: #111 Bubblehead II

It's like the Republicans don't understand the checks and balances in the government, beyond the ones that they can use to fuck with the Democrats. They're not really going to be able to whip out outrage in the independents by saying "Obama is making recess appointments!" when the answer to why he's doing so is that the GOP has been holding up the votes on confirmation.

In addition, the GOP work slowdown, whatever you want to call it, whereby they proceed to waste lots of military people's time-- that was pretty dumb.

131 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:36:26pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Spy isn't designed for comments or dings. Gotta be in the thread.

132 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:36:27pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Enough of endowments--we've already discussed the Monster's.

/hey I wanna get paid for this...

133 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:36:39pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

OK, we are past 100. I need some help.

How do you view the page? I find that if I'm in spy I cannot up ding (my favorite thing, obviously) but can read the comments & respond.

Do you all have 2 windows open & jump? or do you ding at other times?

Sorry, it's been bugging me that I'm missing the groove.

I just view the page normally, no spy. Periodically, I scroll down and click the New Comments button, to view the new comments. You've gotta refresh the page to view the new updings, though.

134 ShaunP  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:37:11pm

re: #124 cliffster

I see ShaunP takes offense to my 32 hour and 17 minute rule. How odd.

I downdinged you for your inference to LVQ's 48 hour rule. As if waiting for actual details of a story to surface was somehow unreasonable...

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:37:15pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Exactly, apparently you're doing it wrong and need to get on the fast track. Like Federal Express. Ann's point is that you have too many rules that tend to get in the way, stop things up and make everything difficult, essentially she's saying that being a practicing Jew is like eating at P.F. Changs.

But that's not insulting, right?

You know, it's just that Ann, herself, isn't a great advertisement for the results of her Quick n' Easy Guide to Salvation.

Or, more precisely, if my ancestors didn't convert when people like this came with swords and the rack, why does this moron woman think I'm going to do so now that she's armed with nothing more than a very short skirt and a mean mouth?

136 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:37:24pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Old fashioned, read of the page. Yes, you have to refresh, or use the new comments button, but the spy makes my head hurt.

137 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:37:29pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, don't talk such nonsense. The Weathermen! Don't forget the Weathermen!!! And some Code Pink chick tried to put handcuffs on Karl Rove!!

Now let's not forget how those evil liberal Canadian universities treated her holiness, The High Perfectress of the Jewry, Ann Coulter.

138 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:38:05pm

Dog lovers, take a minute and a half break.
It's like a ballet.

Youtube Video

They say it's a commercial, but I don't have tv and have never seen it.

139 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:38:05pm

re: #133 The Sanity Inspector

K, that's what I do. Wondering if there was something I was missing - the inner workings not available to noobies! Tks!

140 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:38:13pm

Obama snubbed Netanyahu for dinner with Michelle and the girls, Israelis claim

Benjamin Netanyahu was left to stew in a White House meeting room for over an hour after President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of tense talks to have supper with his family, it emerged on Thursday.

The snub marked a fresh low in US-Israeli relations and appeared designed to show Mr Netanyahu how low his stock had fallen in Washington after he refused to back down in a row over Jewish construction in east Jerusalem.

The Israeli prime minister arrived at the White House on Tuesday evening brimming with confidence that the worst of the crisis in his country's relationship with the United States was over.

Over the previous two days, he had been feted by senior Republicans and greeted warmly by members of Congress. He had also received a standing ovation from the American Israel Public Affairs Affairs Committee, one of the most influential lobby groups in the United States.

But Mr Obama was less inclined to be so conciliatory. He immediately presented Mr Netanyahu with a list of 13 demands designed both to the end the feud with his administration and to build Palestinian confidence ahead of the resumption of peace talks. Key among those demands was a previously-made call to halt all new settlement construction in east Jerusalem.

When the Israeli prime minister stalled, Mr Obama rose from his seat declaring: "I'm going to the residential wing to have dinner with Michelle and the girls."

As he left, Mr Netanyahu was told to consider the error of his ways. "I'm still around," Mr Obama is quoted by Israel's Yediot Ahronot newspaper as having said. "Let me know if there is anything new."

For over an hour, Mr Netanyahu and his aides closeted themselves in the Roosevelt Room on the first floor of the White House to map out a response to the president's demands.

Although the two men then met again, at 8.20 pm, for a brief second meeting, it appeared that they failed to break the impasse. White House officials were quoted as saying that disagreements remained. Shimon Peres, the Israeli president, added: "Apparently they did not reach an understanding with the United States."

141 ShaunP  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:38:26pm

re: #126 brookly red

try giving him some cheese...

I do like cheese...

142 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:38:40pm

re: #134 ShaunP

Hehe, all righty then. chill, dude

143 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:39:04pm

re: #36 ~Fianna

This is just disgusting.

Stay classy, creepy wingnuts!

That's nasty and wrong.

144 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:39:12pm

re: #134 ShaunP

I downdinged you for your inference to LVQ's 48 hour rule. As if waiting for actual details of a story to surface was somehow unreasonable...

and I down ding you for even suggesting that LVQ has any such rule, he has the the patience of a land mine.

145 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:39:35pm

re: #128 negativ

No actually 2 Whopper Juniors minus the pickle. ;)

146 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:39:41pm

re: #141 ShaunP

Black Diamond aged extra sharp cheddar.

147 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:39:46pm

re: #141 ShaunP

I do like cheese...

see, I know what I am doing...

148 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:39:59pm

re: #140 Racer X

Obama treated Netanyahu like shit. That is the be all and end all of it.

149 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:10pm

re: #140 Racer X

Talked about in the last thread. (Just in case you don't get much of a response and wonder)

150 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:19pm

re: #140 Racer X

Eating dinner with his family! The goddamn outrage of that!

How dare he eat dinner with his family! How dare he give Bibi time to confer with his aides.

That's just so rude of the president, to eat dinner. What's next?

Breakfast?

151 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:20pm

re: #138 Silvergirl

Dog lovers, take a minute and a half break.
It's like a ballet.


[Video]They say it's a commercial, but I don't have tv and have never seen it.

I've seen this, and it is FANTASTIC.

152 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:20pm

re: #146 prairiefire

Black Diamond aged extra sharp cheddar.

maybe a nice smoked Gouda?

153 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:22pm

Sure to be played for all it's worth:

Castro: America's caught up on healthcare

It was perhaps not the endorsement President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress were looking for.

Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro declared passage of American health care reform "a miracle" and a major victory for Obama's presidency, but couldn't help chide the United States for taking so long to enact what communist Cuba achieved decades ago.

Redder meat for Glen Beck there never was.

154 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:33pm

re: #144 brookly red

and I down ding you for even suggesting that LVQ has any such rule, he has the the patience of a land mine.

Let the record show that I was making a joke purely about 48 hour rules in general. I didn't know there was even a thing with LVQ. What I was replying to was austin_blue's "24-hour-rule" blunder. Relax, people.

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:37pm

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Now let's not forget how those evil liberal Canadian universities treated her holiness, The High Perfectress of the Jewry, Ann Coulter.

I hear they're going to the Canadian Human Rights Commission over that.

156 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:40:50pm

re: #144 brookly red

and I down ding you for even suggesting that LVQ has any such rule, he has the the patience of a land mine.

And I down ding YOU for even talking about Ludwig like that.

157 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:41:02pm

re: #148 The Shadow Do

Obama treated Netanyahu like shit. That is the be all and end all of it.

BS. Find the whole story. Gus posted last thread.

158 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:41:28pm

I skimmed through a few Hot Air threads to see how the wingnuts are reacting to the new rules against violence and revolution.
Hey, where did my post go?
I posted it again and it was deleted a second time! What's up?
Aren't we allowed to quote the founding fathers anymore?
Why can't we defend the Constitution?
....etc

Similar reaction to when Charles started to clean up LGF. If AP and Ed are serious about a sustained effort then I applaud them for it. As Frum learned today (and Charles learned a while ago) not many conservatives today are interested in rational discourse. Too bad Frum never reached out to the conservatives on LGF. I think some of them might have been willing to listen to him.

159 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:41:49pm

re: #104 prairiefire

hehe Except I could never dance like that.

"Oh he's terribly handsome." :>

160 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:41:56pm

re: #152 brookly red

Smoked cheese is an abomination.

161 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:03pm

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

And I down ding YOU for even talking about Ludwig like that.

/and I fart in you general direction!

162 ShaunP  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:05pm

re: #142 cliffster

Hehe, all righty then. chill, dude

So in the the past two days, I've been accused of bullying for asking where a story was placed and asked to chill for placing a down ding. Wow...

163 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:30pm

re: #160 prairiefire

Smoked cheese is an abomination.

mix it with a bit of hash

164 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:30pm

re: #130 Obdicut

"They're not really going to be able to whip out outrage in the independents by saying "Obama is making recess appointments!" when the answer to why he's doing so is that the GOP has been holding up the votes on confirmation."

And usually for the most base reasons.

/Can you say earmarks?

165 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:33pm

re: #154 cliffster

Let the record show that I was making a joke purely about 48 hour rules in general. I didn't know there was even a thing with LVQ. What I was replying to was austin_blue's "24-hour-rule" blunder. Relax, people.

"Let the record show . . . "

:-)

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:34pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

That's nasty and wrong.

The shredded flag soaked is gasoline isn't too classy either.

167 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:42:51pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

I hear they're going to the Canadian Human Rights Commission over that.

OMG, you weren't joking!

168 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:43:14pm

re: #160 prairiefire

Smoked cheese is an abomination.

I like it, but in view of my stance on pizza I respect you fundamentalism...

169 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:43:31pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I'm not convinced it's anything other than a token effort, on the part of the dynamic duo. Bottom line... the bottom line. If HotWingNuts loses its wingnuts I wonder how many "true" "conservatives" will be left?

170 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:43:37pm

re: #159 marjoriemoon

My mom still has a crush on him, bless his heart. The movie is based on a novel about a young Jewish girl. Natalie Wood, such a beauty.

171 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:43:41pm

re: #162 ShaunP

So in the the past two days, I've been accused of bullying for asking where a story was placed and asked to chill for placing a down ding. Wow...

Really? Sorry, that's annoying. I've never seen you bullying anybody.

172 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:43:42pm

re: #75 The Sanity Inspector

Hey Ludwig, if you still like chess, you might be interested in this.

Ludwig knows chess..I think I can beat him but I'm not putting money on it...
I play a mean Ray Lopez...But since I spent so much time playing the French..
I love a cocky player that loves to just attack..attack..attack...I love it...
I've been there Bitch..keep bringing it.. Soon you will be expended on the board..
*yawn* ya wanna see a real fricking offense? That's the fun of chess..Bringing the pain to the enemy...I love the beauty of chess..
There is no luck of the dice..No turn of the card..
It is just you and the enemy...It doesn't matter if the fucker is unbeatable in twitch nerves and is a monster in Video games..
The depth of thought....For amatuers that think they are shit.. To toy with them I'll plant a Knight at K5 and over protect it like Nimzovich use to do then just watch them sweat about it...for most of the game...
There have been whole books written about protected that Knight advance..Just like the famous march of the knights...Guess what.. I'm not even playing that game...It's like a cobra in the middle of the board ready to strike... The Russians are fucking geniuses.. They use a very fluid offense on the flanks to crumble you in the Middle..
For hundreds of years the Theory to win in chess was always to control the middle of the board ( it's true) The typical thinking was to just walk out and kick ass and control by strength.. The Russians really started using flank attacks to control the center...But not just the Italian finchotted Bishops and controlling the long Diagonal theory..But have a very fast mobile team that can attack in a fluid fashion at just the right time to destroy the middle. Fucked Fisher up for a long time...It wasn't until he started developing a lighting strike from the blue offense could Fisher beat a Russian..
/Sorry.. I love chess

173 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:43:46pm

re: #162 ShaunP

Defense.

174 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:44:03pm

re: #94 ~Fianna

FTFY... at least, I think.

Thanks, but the self-mockery was intentional. One has to throw the captive trolls and stalkers a bit of red meat once in a while. Fattens them up for the grill.

175 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:44:28pm

re: #157 Stanley Sea

BS. Find the whole story. Gus posted last thread.

Heh

176 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:44:43pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, it's just that Ann, herself, isn't a great advertisement for the results of her Quick n' Easy Guide to Salvation.

Or, more precisely, if my ancestors didn't convert when people like this came with swords and the rack, why does this moron woman think I'm going to do so now that she's armed with nothing more than a very short skirt and a mean mouth?

I'm not a Jew. I think if I were, though, I'd be not especially enamored of a person who thought it was just gosh-darn clever to imply that there was a Jewish Problem Jews were inherently flawed and in need of a final solution perfecting.

177 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:45:14pm

re: #162 ShaunP

So in the the past two days, I've been accused of bullying for asking where a story was placed and asked to chill for placing a down ding. Wow...

well it's not like someone shot out a coffins window on your brothers gas line...

178 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:45:17pm

re: #149 Silvergirl

Talked about in the last thread. (Just in case you don't get much of a response and wonder)

Thanks - I just got here.

I understand Obama going to have dinner with his family. I'm sure he could have communicated it better so the Israelis were not uncomfortable with it.

179 ShaunP  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:45:19pm

re: #171 cliffster

Really? Sorry, that's annoying. I've never seen you bullying anybody.

No worries. Down ding is gone...

180 ShaunP  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:45:56pm

re: #177 brookly red

well it's not like someone shot out a coffins window on your brothers gas line...

Ding! :D

181 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:46:06pm

Dinner with family. what a load.

182 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:46:07pm

re: #88 The Shadow Do

You are not unique, Cato. Well, maybe somewhat...

You of all people should know that one can be unique, or not. Never "somewhat".

I've never made such a claim, and as the I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000™ can tell you, I'm instantly replaceable by a newer model.

183 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:46:11pm

re: #144 brookly red

and I down ding you for even suggesting that LVQ has any such rule, he has the the patience of a land mine.

One thing I learned, is if you ever want to say his temper is quick (or anyone's), don't say he has a short wick. Say fuse. I said wick and caused an outrageous misunderstanding.

184 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:46:48pm

re: #96 webevintage

Well that Frum story is a bit more interesting when you add in this tidbit from Bruce Bartlett:
Since, he is no longer affiliated with AEI, I feel free to say publicly something he told me in private a few months ago. He asked if I had noticed any comments by AEI "scholars" on the subject of health care reform. I said no and he said that was because they had been ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

[Link: capitalgainsandgames.com...]

How can you be a "think tank" if you do allow your thinkers to think outloud?

AEI is less a think tank and more a lobbying organization, producing the research backing the client requests, though they do not make it up out of whole cloth.

185 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:47:24pm

re: #183 Silvergirl

One thing I learned, is if you ever want to say his temper is quick (or anyone's), don't say he has a short wick. Say fuse. I said wick and caused an outrageous misunderstanding.

ehhh, I don't go there often...

186 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:47:29pm

re: #178 Racer X

There really isn't much reason to believe they were uncomfortable with it, though. The source is a tabloid.

187 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:47:43pm

re: #115 austin_blue

In any case, it puts a torpedo into the hull of the AEI's credibility.

Must Concur.

188 keloyd  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:47:47pm

re: #172 HoosierHoops

All your secret code talk reminds me of the beginning of Harry Potter #4:
Frank stopped trying to clear his ear out. He had distinctly heard the words "Ministry of Magic," "Wizards," and "Muggles." Plainly, each one of these expressions meant something secret, and Frank could think of only two sorts of people who would speak in code - spies and criminals.

189 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:47:48pm

re: #174 Cato the Elder

Thanks, but the self-mockery was intentional. One has to throw the captive trolls and stalkers a bit of red meat once in a while. Fattens them up for the grill.

Nice of you to help lead them to our feast.

190 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:48:00pm

re: #183 Silvergirl

I remember that thread; I tried to defuse it, but no luck.

191 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:48:21pm

re: #169 freetoken

I'm not convinced it's anything other than a token effort, on the part of the dynamic duo. Bottom line... the bottom line. If HotWingNuts loses its wingnuts I wonder how many "true" "conservatives" will be left?

Yeah, If they did clean up it wouldn't be considered a right wing site anymore. The company that owns Hot Air also owns Town Hall which publishes Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter so they aren't worried about offensive speech.

It's probably just a temporary effort just for show..

192 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:48:37pm

Can't sleep. Need brain food - *heads over to 4chan*

193 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:49:04pm

re: #186 Obdicut

There really isn't much reason to believe they were uncomfortable with it, though. The source is a tabloid.

Dang it! DING. How I see it is people are reaching into the minuscule of diplomacy and coming up with anything that could possibly look bad, then running with it.

194 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:49:19pm

re: #186 Obdicut

And there is no US statement in the article. It's hearsay - all of it.

195 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:49:32pm

re: #178 Racer X

Thanks - I just got here.

I understand Obama going to have dinner with his family. I'm sure he could have communicated it better so the Israelis were not uncomfortable with it.

Yeah, me too. It all comes from being a head of state not having a formal dinner invite, I would think. I give him a pass (who am I?) but think what fun it would have been to ask him to sit around an informal family table with Michelle and the girls.

196 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:49:32pm

Here's video of the spitting indecent from the DC Tea Party....
Incident in Washington saturday 03.20.10

Youtube Video

Happens at about 1:20.

197 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:49:34pm

Sam Kinison. "You can keep the crack, give us back our pot!!!!"

Youtube Video
198 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:50:33pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I skimmed through a few Hot Air threads to see how the wingnuts are reacting to the new rules against violence and revolution.
Hey, where did my post go?
I posted it again and it was deleted a second time! What's up?
Aren't we allowed to quote the founding fathers anymore?
Why can't we defend the Constitution?
...etc

Similar reaction to when Charles started to clean up LGF. If AP and Ed are serious about a sustained effort then I applaud them for it. As Frum learned today (and Charles learned a while ago) not many conservatives today are interested in rational discourse. Too bad Frum never reached out to the conservatives on LGF. I think some of them might have been willing to listen to him.

I'm sure he can find Charles' email if he wants it.

199 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:50:33pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Dang it! DING. How I see it is people are reaching into the minuscule of diplomacy and coming up with anything that could possibly look bad, then running with it.

really...the truth is enough to expose BO for his bungling messes he leaves behind...good money says he will fuck up royally pushing this housing meme

200 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:50:49pm

Okay all, off to walk the dog. The sad puppy eyes are getting heartbreaking.

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:50:52pm

re: #186 Obdicut

There really isn't much reason to believe they were uncomfortable with it, though. The source is a tabloid.

What does seem clear is that the meeting was fairly tense.

202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:50:57pm

Just saw a commercial... GE celebrating the Centennial of the Birth of Ronald Reagan.

Let the head exploding begin...

Boycotts will begin in 5-4-3-2---

203 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:51:03pm

re: #192 wozzablog

Can't sleep. Need brain food - *heads over to 4chan*

Isn't that the 24 hours "How To Make Cheese" channel?

204 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:51:09pm

re: #195 Silvergirl

I give him a pass (who am I?) but think what fun it would have been to ask him to sit around an informal family table with Michelle and the girls.


Maybe but the White House always has foriegn leaders hanging around. I Imagine the kids would want some time with dad.

205 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:51:23pm

re: #186 Obdicut

There really isn't much reason to believe they were uncomfortable with it, though. The source is a tabloid.

Tabloids are the most accurate source of information on the planet.

- K

206 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:51:30pm

re: #182 Cato the Elder

You of all people should know that one can be unique, or not. Never "somewhat".

I've never made such a claim, and as the I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000™ can tell you, I'm instantly replaceable by a newer model.

LOL, your cool Cato

207 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:52:10pm

re: #205 Racer X

Tabloids are the most accurate source of information on the planet.

- K

John Edwards? is that you?

208 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:52:13pm

re: #169 freetoken

If HotWingNuts loses its wingnuts I wonder how many "true" "conservatives" will be left?

Considering all the "true believers" are warning us about a thousand little Wacos, I don't think there will be that many.

All the sane conservatives, on the other hand, will be at home with their loved ones drowning their "true believer" induced headaches in bourbon.

209 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:52:33pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

As far as I am concerned, HotWingNuts is just the FreeRepublic, but with better HTML and CSS.

210 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:53:18pm

Modern conservatives have no trouble seeing that Nazism was evil incarnate, but for generations Leftists had trouble seeing that Stalin belongs in the adjacent cubicle in Hell. One of the reasons for this is that conservatism holds that all totalitarianism grows from the same poisoned fruit, while the Left must make incredibly esoteric
distinctions based upon the motives of the social planners doing the killing. If you are on the road to an egalitarian paradise it’s okay to break a few eggs. ... But if the motives of the centralized experts differ from Leftist dogma, well, it’s evil Fascism.
How else to explain three decades of Castroite sycophancy among American journalists and editorialists? Cuba has free health care! Free education! Free housing! The only thing not free in Cuba are the people, an objection to which armies of sophisticated liberal civil libertarians in America can barely stifle a yawn.
-- Jonah Goldberg

211 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:53:40pm

re: #203 Walter L. Newton

Isn't that the 24 hours "How To Make Cheese" channel?

Full of culture, and nothing but.

212 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:53:45pm

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I did not agree with his reversing of President Carter's energy conversation plan. But, after reading his letters, I found him to be an intelligent man. Also, "The Morning After" scared him just as much as it scared me.

213 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:53:54pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

Maybe but the White House always has foriegn leaders hanging around. I Imagine the kids would want some time with dad.

too bad...maybe he should have stayed in the Senate...there are already rumors about his soft work ethic and his inability to grind it out when he has to...if this story is true, it would not surprise me a bit

214 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:54:09pm

re: #160 prairiefire

Smoked cheese is an abomination.

How about smoky flavored Cheez-Whiz?

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:54:30pm

re: #213 albusteve

too bad...maybe he should have stayed in the Senate...there are already rumors about his soft work ethic and his inability to grind it out when he has to...if this story is true, it would not surprise me a bit

Steve, there are already rumors that he's a Kenyan Marxist Anti-Christ.

216 PaxAmericana  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:54:33pm

Holy shit, I have that. I inherited it from my uncle, along with some other Classics Illustrated (I believe I also have The Invisible Man). I need to head over to my folks place and fish them up!

217 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:54:44pm

re: #213 albusteve

I think he ground out Health Care Reform pretty well.

218 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:54:56pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

Maybe but the White House always has foriegn leaders hanging around. I Imagine the kids would want some time with dad.

Yes, always. Still, with all the sensitivity of the recent doings with Israel, I would want to give him some deference. More than might be given to one of those "foreign leaders hanging around." The President's choice.

219 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:55:03pm

re: #214 The Sanity Inspector

How about smoky flavored Cheez-Whiz?

honey, pass me up the uzi now....

220 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:55:29pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Here's video of the spitting indecent from the DC Tea Party...
Incident in Washington saturday 03.20.10


[Video]Happens at about 1:20.

Anyone recognize the red flag at about 3:30? I don't think I've ever seen that one before.

221 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:55:42pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

Again - from last thread- please dear lady - get out of my head.............

222 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:55:46pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

Steve, there are already rumors that he's a Kenyan Marxist Anti-Christ.

same thing exactly!...let him eat his waffle

223 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:55:54pm

re: #210 The Sanity Inspector

Please tell me that Jonah Goldberg - founder of the utterly false and stupid, Nazis are leftists meme, is being shown here by you as an example of an utter crass idiot and not as someone with any legitimate points to make.

224 keloyd  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:56:15pm

re: #210 The Sanity Inspector

That's worth a 'devil his due' upding - referring to Jonah Goldberg, not the poster

225 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:56:28pm

re: #217 prairiefire

I think he ground out Health Care Reform pretty well.

I think you have no idea what he did with his time...just like the rest of us

226 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:56:28pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Anyone recognize the red flag at about 3:30? I don't think I've ever seen that one before.

a red flag you don't recognize... wow.

227 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:56:43pm

re: #217 prairiefire

FOr for someone in *constant campaign mode* - he sure does seem to be doing a lot of nothing................

/

228 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:57:14pm

re: #144 brookly red

I'm a bit late, and might have missed somebody on here, but I'd note that landmines are perfectly willing to wait for decades sometimes >>

229 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:57:36pm

If the dinner were with Achmadinajad, then the kids be damned. And you know that's true my liberal apologists. In fact, stiffing him would be an outrage.

230 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:57:47pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

OMG, you weren't joking!

How cute of her to use the feminist card. I just got a warm fuzzy :(

231 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:10pm

re: #172 HoosierHoops

Ludwig knows chess..I think I can beat him but I'm not putting money on it...
I play a mean Ray Lopez...But since I spent so much time playing the French..
I love a cocky player that loves to just attack..attack..attack...I love it...
I've been there Bitch..keep bringing it.. Soon you will be expended on the board..
*yawn* ya wanna see a real fricking offense? That's the fun of chess..Bringing the pain to the enemy...I love the beauty of chess..
There is no luck of the dice..No turn of the card..
It is just you and the enemy...It doesn't matter if the fucker is unbeatable in twitch nerves and is a monster in Video games..
The depth of thought...For amatuers that think they are shit.. To toy with them I'll plant a Knight at K5 and over protect it like Nimzovich use to do then just watch them sweat about it...for most of the game...
There have been whole books written about protected that Knight advance..Just like the famous march of the knights...Guess what.. I'm not even playing that game...It's like a cobra in the middle of the board ready to strike... The Russians are fucking geniuses.. They use a very fluid offense on the flanks to crumble you in the Middle..
For hundreds of years the Theory to win in chess was always to control the middle of the board ( it's true) The typical thinking was to just walk out and kick ass and control by strength.. The Russians really started using flank attacks to control the center...But not just the Italian finchotted Bishops and controlling the long Diagonal theory..But have a very fast mobile team that can attack in a fluid fashion at just the right time to destroy the middle. Fucked Fisher up for a long time...It wasn't until he started developing a lighting strike from the blue offense could Fisher beat a Russian..
/Sorry.. I love chess

I do love chess. I was called away. And after reading this, it is clear to me that the best way to get you would be to play a super defensive King's Indian and hope you made a boo boo. :)

I am also not sure that I would win easily - particularly if you are still in practice. It has been a long time since I have competed.

232 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:12pm

re: #229 The Shadow Do

What the fuck.

Why do you believe that?

233 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:18pm

re: #229 The Shadow Do

WTF?

234 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:35pm

Lol at Scott Brown's fundraising scam: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Great technique! Just like, make up an opponent from scratch, then get clueless idiots to donate to your campaign to defeat said nonexistent opponent!

235 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:42pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Anyone recognize the red flag at about 3:30? I don't think I've ever seen that one before.

It looks like the nuclear symbol, maybe. But on a red background? Usually it's yellow.

236 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:43pm

re: #170 prairiefire

My mom still has a crush on him, bless his heart. The movie is based on a novel about a young Jewish girl. Natalie Wood, such a beauty.

I never saw it, actually. My DVD classic list is getting longer!

237 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:56pm

re: #232 Obdicut

What the fuck.

Why do you believe that?

Synchronicity!

238 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:58:58pm

re: #226 brookly red

The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts' blood dyed its ev'ry fold.

239 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:59:39pm

re: #213 albusteve

too bad...maybe he should have stayed in the Senate...there are already rumors about his soft work ethic and his inability to grind it out when he has to...if this story is true, it would not surprise me a bit

If an insult was delivered, it wasn't through laziness. Nor was the housing announcement a result of poor communication. There are very few errors at this level of play.

240 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 6:59:52pm

re: #229 The Shadow Do

oh good grief.

241 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #223 LudwigVanQuixote

Please tell me that Jonah Goldberg - founder of the utterly false and stupid, Nazis are leftists meme, is being shown here by you as an example of an utter crass idiot and not as someone with any legitimate points to make.

You need to be told?

242 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:09pm

re: #75 The Sanity Inspector

Hey Ludwig, if you still like chess, you might be interested in this.

Ouch. That is called who makes an error in advancing the pawns. If they don't screw up it ends in an utter draw with no way to check or stale mate.

243 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:20pm

re: #208 Lidane

Considering all the "true believers" are warning us about a thousand little Wacos, I don't think there will be that many.

All the sane conservatives, on the other hand, will be at home with their loved ones drowning their "true believer" induced headaches in bourbon.

Sadly for me, I don't drink. I'm just worried. Worried for my future (though I expect to get through my current crisis), but far more worried for my country. Things are bad right now, and the craziness sometimes just sucks the life out of me.

244 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:32pm

re: #237 windsagio

Synchronicity!

MANY MILES AWAY

A BLOG COMMENTER CRAWLS FROM THE SLIME

245 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:40pm

Courtesy of PZed:

Billboard campaign to announce atheists’ First Coast presence

It may come as a shock to some that there are atheists, humanists and agnostics in Jacksonville, smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt.

So area atheist organizations have banded together to create an umbrella organization with plans as early as Thursday to bring a national billboard campaign to the First Coast, declaring their existence to believers and non-believers alike.

[...]

Some Christian leaders expressed concern about the two planned billboards, which provide the coalition's Web address and declare: "Don't Believe in God? You're Not Alone."

"It does concern me," said the Rev. Armand Egnew, pastor of Crosswalk Community Church, an Assemblies of God congregation in Fleming Island.

"It throws confusion out to people ... who are not solidly grounded" in their faith.

Apparently there was an online poll at that news site also, linked by PZed, but it looks like the news site changed it. According to PZed, the poll was whether the billboards were offensive - and over half the respondents were "yes".

However, at the same new site now:

Keep God in America movement sets first rally in Jacksonville this weekend

A growing movement in Northeast Florida says government can find the answers to its problems in scripture.

In an age when church and state don't typically mix, a group called Keep God in America draws lessons from the nation's birth, a time people fled oppression and religious persecution to start anew.

The group's first major event is this weekend in Jacksonville, culminating with a rally Sunday with an expected 3,000 people in Metropolitan Park.

Chris Nwasike, 31, a leader of the Duval County Young Republicans and one of Keep God in America's founders, said the movement is meant to be more about morality than religion, although the rally harkens back to the Judeo-Christian mind set that followed settlers to America in the 1700s. [Channeling Glenn Beck channeling Skousen.]

[...]

One of several high-profile political endorsements came from U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn. Bachmann has been a controversial figure because of her adherence to religious views and her assertion on the 2008 presidential campaign trail that Barack Obama had "anti-American" friends and political aspirations.

In an interview Bachmann taped for the Keep God in America endorsement, she said people's rights come from God but it's government's role to secure them.

The group plugged into the First Coast Tea Party for funding and personnel support. Tea party organizer Billie Tucker said the platform fits in well with the tea party's idea that government should be limited and have moral leadership.


246 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:42pm

re: #153 freetoken

Sure to be played for all it's worth:

Castro: America's caught up on healthcare

Redder meat for Glen Beck there never was.

He's a murderer, and a complete dickhead. But he's right. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

247 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:00:57pm

re: #223 LudwigVanQuixote

Please tell me that Jonah Goldberg - founder of the utterly false and stupid, Nazis are leftists meme, is being shown here by you as an example of an utter crass idiot and not as someone with any legitimate points to make.

Stopped clock, blind pig, etc. The Western Left's high tolerance for revolutionary tyranny over the past century is a matter of record.

248 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:01:00pm

re: #225 albusteve

So far there is a lot of photographic evidence of what he does with his time. There will be books written. Where are the books on President George W. Bush's time in office? He said History will judge him. Let history begin.[Link: www.flickr.com...]

249 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:01:12pm

re: #229 The Shadow Do

If the dinner were with Achmadinajad, then the kids be damned. And you know that's true my liberal apologists. In fact, stiffing him would be an outrage.

WTF?

250 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:01:30pm

re: #237 windsagio

You linked II again!

251 brookly red  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:01:33pm

good night good folks...

252 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:01:44pm

re: #234 WindUpBird

Lol at Scott Brown's fundraising scam: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Great technique! Just like, make up an opponent from scratch, then get clueless idiots to donate to your campaign to defeat said nonexistent opponent!

What's really stupid about that is that his non-existent opponent has her own TV show and can repeatedly point out that you're an idiot who is making shit up wholesale.

He should have let it go after she first denied it and mocked him on the air for it rather than doubling down on the "ZOMG! Maddow is running against me!" meme.

253 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:01:52pm

re: #247 The Sanity Inspector

Stopped clock, blind pig, etc. The Western Left's high tolerance for revolutionary tyranny over the past century is a matter of record.

Now I'm imagining a guy who looks like the Man With No Name driving a Prius to Whole Foods

254 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:02:10pm

Well I just gotre: #196 Killgore Trout

Here's video of the spitting indecent from the DC Tea Party...
Incident in Washington saturday 03.20.10


Was there a second spitter?
(sorry i could not resist)

255 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:02:10pm

re: #229 The Shadow Do

If the dinner were with Achmadinajad, then the kids be damned. And you know that's true my liberal apologists. In fact, stiffing him would be an outrage.

hahaha what does this even mean weirdo

256 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:02:18pm

re: #240 wozzablog

oh good grief.

wocka wocka wocka

257 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:02:31pm

re: #236 marjoriemoon

I've got a new notebook just for LGF recommends!

258 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:03:00pm

re: #210 The Sanity Inspector

Modern conservatives have no trouble seeing that Nazism was evil incarnate, but for generations Leftists had trouble seeing that Stalin belongs in the adjacent cubicle in Hell. One of the reasons for this is that conservatism holds that all totalitarianism grows from the same poisoned fruit, while the Left must make incredibly esoteric
distinctions based upon the motives of the social planners doing the killing. If you are on the road to an egalitarian paradise it’s okay to break a few eggs. ... But if the motives of the centralized experts differ from Leftist dogma, well, it’s evil Fascism.
How else to explain three decades of Castroite sycophancy among American journalists and editorialists? Cuba has free health care! Free education! Free housing! The only thing not free in Cuba are the people, an objection to which armies of sophisticated liberal civil libertarians in America can barely stifle a yawn.
-- Jonah Goldberg

Jonah Goldberg is wrong about the origins of fascism, but he's right about the left's blindness to communism. However, I don't think that's on point here, since Obama is no Marxist (whatever Glenn Beck may think).

259 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:03:17pm

re: #243 Dark_Falcon

Don't feel that way. We are very strong, as a country. This is just a phase. It will pass. {{DF}}

260 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:03:38pm

re: #213 albusteve

too bad...maybe he should have stayed in the Senate...there are already rumors about his soft work ethic and his inability to grind it out when he has to...if this story is true, it would not surprise me a bit

Well, that would explain the passage of HCR...

261 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:03:39pm

re: #252 Lidane

What's really stupid about that is that his non-existent opponent has her own TV show and can repeatedly point out that you're an idiot who is making shit up wholesale.

He should have let it go after she first denied it and mocked him on the air for it rather than doubling down on the "ZOMG! Maddow is running against me!" meme.

Yes! I was just watching her now :D She made up an entire campaign ad for him. Genius!

I guess he wants those Tea Partier dollars. A LIBERAL LESBIAN?!?!?! WE CAN'T LET HER WIN OH GOD GOLD STANDARD

262 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:03:53pm

re: #256 Stanley Sea

Stanley, I've missed something apparently. (What does it mean when you say wocka three times?)

263 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:03:57pm

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Anyone recognize the red flag at about 3:30? I don't think I've ever seen that one before.

Triskele? Hard to tell without a better pic of the flag.

264 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:04:28pm

re: #262 jaunte

Stanley, I've missed something apparently. (What does it mean when you say wocka three times?)

It means you've eaten three dots in Pac-Man

265 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:04:46pm

re: #262 jaunte

Stanley, I've missed something apparently. (What does it mean when you say wocka three times?)

Helicopter noise. Preferably from a black one!
I think....

266 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:04:50pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea

I try to mix it up, theres a crappy anime song called synchronicity (I know 'cuz its on the youtubes), but I can't listen to it for more than 5 seconds, and that means I can't be inflicted on others :P

267 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:05:14pm

re: #261 WindUpBird

Yes! I was just watching her now :D She made up an entire campaign ad for him. Genius!

I guess he wants those Tea Partier dollars. A LIBERAL LESBIAN?!?!?! WE CAN'T LET HER WIN OH GOD GOLD STANDARD

Exactly. He knows his niche.

268 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:05:16pm

re: #264 WindUpBird

It means you've eaten three dots in Pac-Man

Scoring meaningless points?

269 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:05:32pm

re: #243 Dark_Falcon

Sadly for me, I don't drink. I'm just worried. Worried for my future (though I expect to get through my current crisis), but far more worried for my country. Things are bad right now, and the craziness sometimes just sucks the life out of me.

Not sadly for you. Good for you. Handle things straight on.

270 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:18pm

re: #262 jaunte

Stanley, I've missed something apparently. (What does it mean when you say wocka three times?)

Oh, not of my invention. I think it was webvintage.

Whenever a right wing crazy point is brought up, all you can say is wocka wocka wocka.

Correct me if I'm wrong folks!

271 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:28pm

re: #268 jaunte

Scoring meaningless points?

They're meaningful to me! My high score at the local pub remains until they turn the machine off! :D

272 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:31pm

re: #245 freetoken

Courtesy of PZed:

Billboard campaign to announce atheists’ First Coast presence

There's an old country church in my general vicinity, left over from from an extinct congregation, nothing left but the building and the cemetery. I did a double-take a while back when I drove by and saw that there was a new sign on it, announcing it to be a "free thought hall."

273 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:36pm

re: #152 brookly red

maybe a nice smoked Gouda?

I doubt we agree on much, but you clearly have excellent taste in cheese.

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:43pm

re: #247 The Sanity Inspector

Stopped clock, blind pig, etc. The Western Left's high tolerance for revolutionary tyranny over the past century is a matter of record.

As is the American Right's tolerance for any death-squad funding, peasant-murdering bastard dictator who swore on a stack he'd kill commies for us.

Your point?

275 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:53pm

re: #188 keloyd

All your secret code talk reminds me of the beginning of Harry Potter #4:
Frank stopped trying to clear his ear out. He had distinctly heard the words "Ministry of Magic," "Wizards," and "Muggles." Plainly, each one of these expressions meant something secret, and Frank could think of only two sorts of people who would speak in code - spies and criminals.

Really?
I have never seen or read Harry Potter...Kids books right?
*wink*
Let's us scrub the code words...*wink*
So chess is like life...You have your team.. It's punch, counter punch the whole game...
You send your guy to the middle of the board..*what up bitches..Here I am..Here I stay*
He sends a guy out..Oh yea..F U
Oh yea..I got a guy covering me..And attacking you..
oh yea?
* At this point it's like an off Broadway play of the West side story*
And then it is on..A war...every human emotion..Every deceit power play..
I've sacrificed the queen knowing I was going to kill the player in 2 moves...Take it Bitch..Take the Queen I will destroy you...Do you play tactically..or Strategically? Do you cower in the face of doom?
Can you change course in the Middle of of Conflict? (Something Bush never got in 2006) Can you bluff your enemy? Can you take his best punch and still stand up in the ring? Do you have memory of past conflicts? Oh shit..I've seen this attack before...Do you have courage? Can you defend against the gates of hell and still protect the king?
Can you finish this war? With power and elegance?
(something Bush 1 never got either)
*Hi Lugwig*

276 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:58pm

re: #247 The Sanity Inspector

Unless it's right wing american governments supporting the Generalisimo in Argentina, or Chile - or Iran. Or shaking hands with Saddam while he was still *cool*

Neither side is clean.

277 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:06:59pm

re: #260 austin_blue

Well, that would explain the passage of HCR...


for his admirers, certainly...there could be no other explanation

278 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:07:01pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Triskele? Hard to tell without a better pic of the flag.

I think it's the nuclear one still.?

279 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:07:33pm

re: #232 Obdicut

What the fuck.

Why do you believe that?

He doesn't believe it.

just more partisan partisan dipshittery, no matter how stupid, gotta keep repeating the line

280 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:07:40pm

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Jonah Goldberg is wrong about the origins of fascism, but he's right about the left's blindness to communism. However, I don't think that's on point here, since Obama is no Marxist (whatever Glenn Beck may think).

The left isn't blind to Stalin. The Comintern betrayed socialists throughout the 1930's. Check the history of Republican Spain for the best example.

281 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:07:57pm

re: #219 brookly red

I updinged you, but I still do not condone gun violence.

282 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:08:18pm

As some of you may have sussed from my recent predilection for Britishisms, I am on a BBC kick.

Compulsively watching "Yes, Minister" and "House of Cards" with the great Ian Richardson on Netflix Instant. Which led me, by circuitous paths of circumambulation, to the movie version of "The Constant Gardener". Which I then interrupted a quarter of the way through to buy the Kindle edition of the book.

I am now happily plunged once again in the delightful prose of David Cornwell, who has given me decades of reading pleasure. Delightful, suspenseful prose full of unlooked-for felicitous turns of phrase, spot-on dialog, crafty characterizations, and humane understanding of human beings and the way they interact and sometimes come to grief with the powers that be. In this case the villain is Big Pharma.

In other words, I may not emerge from submersion for a while.

As a side note, I once spotted Cornwell sauntering jauntily down the rue de la Bûcherie in Paris, every inch the tweedy English tourist, no doubt doing research for one of my books. I didn't dare approach him; I was a seedy grad student at the time. How I regret my timidity today!

283 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:08:20pm

re: #247 The Sanity Inspector

Stopped clock, blind pig, etc. The Western Left's high tolerance for revolutionary tyranny over the past century is a matter of record.

I'm so old I can remember when we supported the shah of Iran


but you guys never seem to want to talk about that

284 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:08:22pm

re: #264 WindUpBird

It means you've eaten three dots in Pac-Man

heh, of course!...and I thought it would be more complicated!

285 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:08:38pm

I don't think it's incorrrect to say that President Obama would likely not walk out on Ahmadinejad if he could get him into the White House for a talk.

286 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:08:50pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Looks pretty close to this too:Y-flag

This is either

* a variation of the swastika symbol, with three legs and barred ends (cf. the austrian WWII Vaterländische Front and the South African white supremacist Afrikaner Weerstands Beweging) (If it is this one, I bet we’ll found it that it was hoisted upside down — just a semiotic/aesthetical hunch.), or
* it might be some organization somehow related to the letter "Y" (there’s a US racist organization that uses a "W", for "white", in this flag arrangement, but I know none using a "Y").

Am I stretching? Imagining things? Is it just a normal state flag?

287 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:09:04pm

re: #276 wozzablog

Unless it's right wing american governments supporting the Generalisimo in Argentina, or Chile - or Iran. Or shaking hands with Saddam while he was still *cool*

Neither side is clean.

I don't think Saddam was ever really 'cool'. We supported him and were nice because the alternative (an Iranian victory over Iraq) would have been worse.

288 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:09:07pm

re: #284 albusteve

heh, of course!...and I thought it would be more complicated!

that's the sound they make!


wockawockawockawockaBLURIDINGRL!! weeoooweeeoooweeeooo

289 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:09:08pm

re: #231 LudwigVanQuixote

I do love chess. I was called away. And after reading this, it is clear to me that the best way to get you would be to play a super defensive King's Indian and hope you made a boo boo. :)

I am also not sure that I would win easily - particularly if you are still in practice. It has been a long time since I have competed.

That's funny as hell Lud..If I was black I'd start out with the Indian too..Just to feel you out..
Regards Bro

290 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:09:32pm

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Looks pretty close to this too:Y-flag

Am I stretching? Imagining things? Is it just a normal state flag?

I sure looks like it...
*Re-watches vid*

291 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:09:51pm

re: #285 jaunte

I don't think it's incorrrect to say that President Obama would likely not walk out on Ahmadinejad if he could get him into the White House for a talk.

It's the loaded nature of HAY GUYS HE LOVES EVIL DICTATOR MORE THAN ISRAEL AMIRITE hrbhrlgrbrghlrgrh

292 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:09:54pm

Let me put it this way, for the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.re: #232 Obdicut

re: #233 windsagio

re: #240 wozzablog

re: #249 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #255 WindUpBird

293 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:10:28pm

re: #285 jaunte

I don't think it's incorrrect to say that President Obama would likely not walk out on Ahmadinejad if he could get him into the White House for a talk.

I think that suggesting that Ahmadinejad would get such treatment because he is held in greater esteem is quite incorrect.

294 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:10:38pm

re: #292 The Shadow Do

Let me put it this way, for the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.

re: #233 windsagio

re: #240 wozzablog

re: #249 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #255 WindUpBird


hahaha yes because you were just so totally rah rah up until this very point

295 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:10:41pm

re: #247 The Sanity Inspector

Stopped clock, blind pig, etc. The Western Left's high tolerance for revolutionary tyranny over the past century is a matter of record.

Ohh dear G-d you were serious... OK

(puts on hip boots, gets breath mask to avoid fumes)...

First off, the American Left, with the exception of the true moonbats has always acknowledged the monstrosity that was Stalin and the evils of Russia. Do conisder how The Gulag Archipelago and the other works of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn are the sorts of things that all of those liberal educated elitist types would read where as the Palin types have never even heard the name.

In fact, you will find if you look at the history, during the Depression the American communist party reached its peak only to dwindle to nothingness not so much because of Red Scares or the hyperventilating of the right, but rather because American leftists felt betrayed by Stalin (as in they realized he was a monster).

By the time McCarthy got on the scene, there was no effective American communist party - not that it was ever particularly large to begin with.

Finally, you have got to look at the history of America and dictators.

The history of American governments supporting utter bastards totalitarians is long and checkered. It covers both ends of the spectrum, but it usually is the American right protecting American business that puts them in place.

A list of American installed dictators (Short form)

Samoza,
Batista
Bao Di
The Sha of Iran
Saddam Hussein

Do you really want to make this argument in light of the history?

296 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:10:54pm

re: #270 Stanley Sea

I think you are right in the definition.

I've always preferred the Lucy from peanuts analogy though, just when you think you are getting close to a thread without some nutty idiocy - the ball is taken from right under your foot........

Everytime i keep expecting - this time will be different, this time we'll make it through a thread............ but the ball is always taken away.

*oh good grief*

297 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:00pm

re: #293 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, esteemed like a rattlesnake.

298 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:15pm

re: #292 The Shadow Do

Dude, you're always cryptic. It's pretty much rude, at this point.

I have no idea what you mean. You seem to be implying you're not proud of America because of something that was written in an Israeli tabloid, and you also think Obama is more sympathetic to Iran than Israel.

That's just guessing, of course, since you refuse to just say what you mean in a straightforward fashion.

299 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:16pm

re: #278 Stanley Sea

I think it's the nuclear one still.?

Nah, It's something. Maybe a colonial era flag or something. Just the circle with the re background makes me pause. We know the stormfront crowd was there in DC so it is a possibility. They're strategy is to not use obvious symbols and tone down the literature some to get people interested.

300 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:18pm

re: #293 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that suggesting that Ahmadinejad would get such treatment because he is held in greater esteem is quite incorrect.

It is the zenith of dumb.

301 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:21pm

re: #285 jaunte

I don't think it's incorrrect to say that President Obama would likely not walk out on Ahmadinejad if he could get him into the White House for a talk.

he'd be scared shitless to do something like that...OTOH something tells me he thinks he has Bibi on a string...just think, if the Israelis give up the west bank and Jtown, he will have won the big one

302 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:39pm

re: #274 SanFranciscoZionist

As is the American Right's tolerance for any death-squad funding, peasant-murdering bastard dictator who swore on a stack he'd kill commies for us.

Your point?

But those were not love affairs.

D/F's right, it's not really germane to Obamacare. I just hear way too many people, not necessarily here, who are still entirely too well-disposed to Castro. The tyranny of his regime was arguably worse in the 90s than it was in the 60s, yet it mattered not at all to them. Instead, they sneered at the exiles in Miami, who wouldn't shut up about it.

303 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:56pm

re: #280 Decatur Deb

The left isn't blind to Stalin. The Comintern betrayed socialists throughout the 1930's. Check the history of Republican Spain for the best example.

Some on the left were not fooled. Sidney Hook and George Orwell were two who saw. But there were others who kept up their illusions about the Soviet Union until 1956. After that, most on the left did indeed stop idolizing the USSR, but many remained soft to it till much later (in some cases till it ended).

304 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:11:59pm

re: #298 Obdicut

Dude, you're always cryptic. It's pretty much rude, at this point.

I have no idea what you mean. You seem to be implying you're not proud of America because of something that was written in an Israeli tabloid, and you also think Obama is more sympathetic to Iran than Israel.

That's just guessing, of course, since you refuse to just say what you mean in a straightforward fashion.

Well, see, when he's cryptic, that leaves room for evasion. Clever!

305 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:12:23pm

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Jonah Goldberg is wrong about the origins of fascism, but he's right about the left's blindness to communism. However, I don't think that's on point here, since Obama is no Marxist (whatever Glenn Beck may think).

You are falling for a lie from a known liar who can not be bothered to do any real research.

306 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:12:28pm

re: #290 Varek Raith

I sure looks like it...
*Re-watches vid*

It looks pretty close but I'm not sure we'll ever know from the video. The picture just isn't clear enough.

307 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:12:29pm

re: #262 jaunte

WebVintage (I think) came up with the term to decipher loony right wing talking points.

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:12:35pm

re: #297 jaunte

Yeah, esteemed like a rattlesnake.

I would never leave a rattlesnake unattended to go have dinner with my kids, that's true.

309 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:12:41pm

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Was it the Tennessee State Flag?

310 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:13:20pm

re: #280 Decatur Deb

The USSR under Stalin was a "deformed worker state" in the lingo of the saner elements of the 4th international - if memory serves.

You have to go into the far reaches of the communist left to find someone who has a genuinely good word to say about stalin.

Saying he got their economy and means of production caught up from tsarist times or did us a good turn in WW2 is not to be equated with loving the guy.

311 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:13:55pm

re: #282 Cato the Elder

I have sussed nothing about your predilections for British tv, but I will recommend Spaced to you, if you haven't yet seen it.

312 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:14:05pm

re: #298 Obdicut

Dude, you're always cryptic. It's pretty much rude, at this point.

I have no idea what you mean. You seem to be implying you're not proud of America because of something that was written in an Israeli tabloid, and you also think Obama is more sympathetic to Iran than Israel.

That's just guessing, of course, since you refuse to just say what you mean in a straightforward fashion.

well, now you have a gigantic plate of red meat for the evening...be thankful you've had 20 more posts gifted to you...proceed

313 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:15:27pm

re: #301 albusteve

he'd be scared shitless to do something like that...OTOH something tells me he thinks he has Bibi on a string...just think, if the Israelis give up the west bank and Jtown, he will have won the big one

Israel has given back almost all of the territory it captured in the 1967 war. What other country on the planet would do that in an effort to obtain peace?

And most of the territory it has given back has been used as a launching point to murder more Jews (*see Gaza).

314 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:15:43pm

re: #312 albusteve

Actually, Steve, I'm heading out to make some chicken adobo with some red-pepper green beans and garlic rice. So go ahead and eat the red meat, whatever the hell it was.

315 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:15:45pm

re: #309 freetoken

Was it the Tennessee State Flag?

Nope. Follow the link to youtube: Incident in Washington saturday 03.20.10 and watch it in full screen. It looks damn close to the Y-Flag

316 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:15:55pm

re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh dear G-d you were serious... OK

(puts on hip boots, gets breath mask to avoid fumes)...

First off, the American Left, with the exception of the true moonbats has always acknowledged the monstrosity that was Stalin and the evils of Russia. Do conisder how The Gulag Archipelago and the other works of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn are the sorts of things that all of those liberal educated elitist types would read where as the Palin types have never even heard the name.

In fact, you will find if you look at the history, during the Depression the American communist party reached its peak only to dwindle to nothingness not so much because of Red Scares or the hyperventilating of the right, but rather because American leftists felt betrayed by Stalin (as in they realized he was a monster).

By the time McCarthy got on the scene, there was no effective American communist party - not that it was ever particularly large to begin with.

Finally, you have got to look at the history of America and dictators.

The history of American governments supporting utter bastards totalitarians is long and checkered. It covers both ends of the spectrum, but it usually is the American right protecting American business that puts them in place.

A list of American installed dictators (Short form)

Samoza,
Batista
Bao Di
The Sha of Iran
Saddam Hussein

Do you really want to make this argument in light of the history?

Slight correction: Though Saddam was for a time backed by the US, we did not install him. He schemed and murdered himself into power without outside aid.

317 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:16:16pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

It looks pretty close but I'm not sure we'll ever know from the video. The picture just isn't clear enough.

Here's a screencap.

318 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:16:23pm

re: #210 The Sanity Inspector

You're seriously quoting Doughy Pantload? Wow.

319 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:16:39pm

re: #302 The Sanity Inspector

But those were not love affairs.

D/F's right, it's not really germane to Obamacare. I just hear way too many people, not necessarily here, who are still entirely too well-disposed to Castro. The tyranny of his regime was arguably worse in the 90s than it was in the 60s, yet it mattered not at all to them. Instead, they sneered at the exiles in Miami, who wouldn't shut up about it.

Sure. Far too many people are still too-well-disposed toward Castro. Too many people will still stand up (on this blog) and try to defend Pinochet.

We can play this game all night long. But I don't care to. I am too bored with it. It's a very repetitive sport.

320 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:16:57pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Some on the left were not fooled. Sidney Hook and George Orwell were two who saw. But there were others who kept up their illusions about the Soviet Union until 1956. After that, most on the left did indeed stop idolizing the USSR, but many remained soft to it till much later (in some cases till it ended).

Emma Goldman knew what they were back in the 20s.

321 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:17:04pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Slight correction: Though Saddam was for a time backed by the US, we did not install him. He schemed and murdered himself into power without outside aid.

Except from the CIA... And there is the whole twin pillar theory of Kissinger. But other than that, you are still completely wrong.

322 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:17:09pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Some on the left were not fooled. Sidney Hook and George Orwell were two who saw. But there were others who kept up their illusions about the Soviet Union until 1956. After that, most on the left did indeed stop idolizing the USSR, but many remained soft to it till much later (in some cases till it ended).

After WWII, with it's support for our ally against the common enemy, pro-soviet leftists were a quaint joke.

323 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:17:48pm

re: #319 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure. Far too many people are still too-well-disposed toward Castro. Too many people will still stand up (on this blog) and try to defend Pinochet.

We can play this game all night long. But I don't care to. I am too bored with it. It's a very repetitive sport.


it sure is.

I prefer to get fired up about real stuff that's happening right now! :D

324 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:17:52pm

re: #317 Varek Raith

Here's a screencap.

Looks like the y-flag to me.

Tea Party!

325 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:19:10pm

re: #317 Varek Raith

Here's a screencap.

That's about as good as an image as we're going to get. Still it could be anything. It's not a meaningless symbol. The guy is carrying it through the crowd for a reason.

326 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:19:19pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

He was CIA at one point.

San Francisco Liberals didn't install Stalin in post - yet get accused of fawning over him all the same.

Saddam was the US go to guy in the mid east for a while.

327 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:19:30pm

I miss the cold war. Everything was simpler then

328 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:19:52pm

re: #321 LudwigVanQuixote

Except from the CIA... And there is the whole twin pillar theory of Kissinger. But other than that, you are still completely wrong.

The CIA did not provide support for Saddam's rise. Moreover, its worth remembering that Iraq's biggest arms supplier during the 1980's remained the Soviet Union. Both Superpowers played both sides of the line and neither really wanted a decisive victory by either combatant.

329 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:13pm

re: #325 Killgore Trout

That's about as good as an image as we're going to get. Still it could be anything. It's not a meaningless symbol. The guy is carrying it through the crowd for a reason.

Yep, that's as clear a view of it as I could get.

330 sngnsgt  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:25pm
A last minute amendment to the Health Care Reform Bill, introduced by House Speaker Pelosi, will require all American women over the age of 40 to drink one gallon of carrot juice per week. Mrs Pelosi, who is known as an avid carrot-juice drinker remarked: "Hey, if it works for Speaker of the House, it will sure work for all women in the United States of America." She then giggled triumphantly. The Internal Revenue Service will be responsible for enforcement.

superchutzpah

331 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:39pm

re: #315 Killgore Trout

At 3:19 to 3:20 into the vid I'd say you get the best view of it. Yes, it does look like the Y-flag.

332 swamprat  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:41pm

re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote

There weren't any commies and they didn't like stalin and America was worse.

Got it.

333 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:42pm

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Jonah Goldberg is wrong about the origins of fascism, but he's right about the left's blindness to communism. However, I don't think that's on point here, since Obama is no Marxist (whatever Glenn Beck may think).

DF, I think that's a bit of a broad brush. The *far* left always had a place in its heart for Marx, if not Russia. Russia was always a bastardization of Marxist Communism, in that the Apparatchiks controlled the proles. That's not Marxist dogma. The concept of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" was a radical reinterpretation of the Capitalist west, written in The Communist Manifesto (TCM) in 1848. At the time, magnates had total control over the lives of the workers in much of Europe.

TCM was basically a Utopian view of how Capitalism- the relationship between workers and manager, could work. Like all Utopian writings, it is romantic and impossible. Goldberg saying that this is a driving focus of the modern American left, which is by and large fundamentally Centrist with a few fringe groups that are held at arms length (unlike the Conservative fringe, which is tacitly endorsed by the Republican Party through its surrogates) is ridiculous. Goldberg is full of shit.

334 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:42pm

re: #282 Cato the Elder

Have you done Ab-Fab yet?
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

It's a scream. The good episodes are REALLY good & the bad ones aren't too bad. It's a little "off" for how I think of your taste, but it's almost Monty Python funny.

335 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:20:59pm

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Slight correction: Though Saddam was for a time backed by the US, we did not install him. He schemed and murdered himself into power without outside aid.

Agreed. Swap him out for Pinochet.

336 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:21:21pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

The CIA did not provide support for Saddam's rise. Moreover, its worth remembering that Iraq's biggest arms supplier during the 1980's remained the Soviet Union. Both Superpowers played both sides of the line and neither really wanted a decisive victory by either combatant.

And in the 70's the Nixon administration tried to make inroads with the Bathists.

I'm sorry you are just wrong on th history.

337 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:22:29pm

re: #311 Silvergirl

Spaced

Spaced is friggin awesome. So is Shaun of the Dead.

338 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:22:45pm

re: #333 austin_blue

And Allinsky, don't forget Allinsky...........

339 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:23:00pm

re: #277 albusteve

for his admirers, certainly...there could be no other explanation

Never would have passed without him. He and Pelosi put some spine into the Party. I think it shocked the R's.

340 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:23:32pm

re: #332 swamprat

There weren't any commies and they didn't like stalin and America was worse.

Got it.

What? What?

WTF?

Dude, it is bullshit like this that truly astonishes me.

No idiot. The argument is that Stalin was a monster and that the American left acknowledged this, with the exception of a truly deluded and small minority.

The argument further is - in context, that the American right has a much worse history of installing dictators and totalitarians then the American left.

341 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:24:53pm

re: #289 HoosierHoops

That's funny as hell Lud..If I was black I'd start out with the Indian too..Just to feel you out..
Regards Bro

:) Anytime. If I were black I would be pleased at how much larger certain bit of me got :)

And no, it is not racist if it is a compliment!

342 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:24:54pm

re: #326 wozzablog

He was CIA at one point.

San Francisco Liberals didn't install Stalin in post - yet get accused of fawning over him all the same.

Saddam was the US go to guy in the mid east for a while.

Well that whole 8 year Iraq/Iran war thing...America always gets accused of supporting Saddam in that time.. We didn't do really much..But how bad is it when the only sane person in the middle of a war was Saddam..And he was fucking nuts..

343 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:25:01pm

Sam Harris: Science can answer moral questions
(long, worth it even if you don't agree -- especially if you don't agree)

Youtube Video

Short version: Liberal atheist insists that moral relativism is stupid and dangerous; that there is an objective, definitive difference between right and wrong.

344 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:25:44pm

re: #315 Killgore Trout

Nope. Follow the link to youtube: Incident in Washington saturday 03.20.10 and watch it in full screen. It looks damn close to the Y-Flag

Or this one from the same site.

345 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:26:38pm

re: #317 Varek Raith

Here's a screencap.

Looks like the Y flag. Thanks for getting a good, clear cap.

Scuze me while I go shower now.

346 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:29:16pm

re: #339 austin_blue

Spine nothing. They offered a deal to Stupak and Stupak took it. That group put them over 216.

347 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:29:46pm

re: #344 ~Fianna

OUCH.

They walk among us............. holy shit.

348 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:29:58pm

re: #346 TheMatrix31

Spine nothing. They offered a deal to Stupak and Stupak took it. That group put them over 216.

Hah! The EO was eyewash!

349 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:32:03pm

It's pretty obvious that it will be a very long time before history records the realities and the results of the cold war. Present day perspectives, from the left or the right, are completely tainted and usually avoid the obvious. A lot of what happened, happened because it had to happen. Everything after is political positioning and posturing. It was a very tough time and there was an existential threat to America. We survived that one. For now.

350 swamprat  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:32:07pm

re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote

In fact, you will find if you look at the history, during the Depression the American communist party reached its peak only to dwindle to nothingness

There weren't any commies


American leftists felt betrayed by Stalin (as in they realized he was a monster).


They didn't like stalin


The history of American governments supporting utter bastards totalitarians is long and checkered. It covers both ends of the spectrum, but it usually is the American right protecting American business that puts them in place.

A list of American installed dictators (Short form)

Samoza,
Batista
Bao Di
The Sha of Iran
Saddam Hussein

America was worse.


your words

351 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:33:34pm

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Looks pretty close to this too:Y-flag

Am I stretching? Imagining things? Is it just a normal state flag?

It's not any state flag, it's the same as the "Y-flag" you have linked.

352 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:33:45pm

Seriously. Why does this subject keep coming up? I mean, yes, the hazy-crazy kids still walk around with their dumbass Che shirts, and back in the day, the far left fringe was all high on the U.S.S.R., but these were never mainstream American liberal stances, and the Cold War has been over since I was in blinkin' middle school.

Why do I get broadsided every few days around here with another round of "Well, the left loves Stalin"?

I do not effing get it.

353 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:34:19pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously. Why does this subject keep coming up? I mean, yes, the hazy-crazy kids still walk around with their dumbass Che shirts, and back in the day, the far left fringe was all high on the U.S.S.R., but these were never mainstream American liberal stances, and the Cold War has been over since I was in blinkin' middle school.

Why do I get broadsided every few days around here with another round of "Well, the left loves Stalin"?

I do not effing get it.

Deflection, pure and simple.
:(

354 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:34:43pm
355 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:34:44pm

re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh dear G-d you were serious... OK

(puts on hip boots, gets breath mask to avoid fumes)...

First off, the American Left, with the exception of the true moonbats has always acknowledged the monstrosity that was Stalin and the evils of Russia. Do consider how The Gulag Archipelago and the other works of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn are the sorts of things that all of those liberal educated elitist types would read where as the Palin types have never even heard the name.

In fact, you will find if you look at the history, during the Depression the American communist party reached its peak only to dwindle to nothingness not so much because of Red Scares or the hyperventilating of the right, but rather because American leftists felt betrayed by Stalin (as in they realized he was a monster).

By the time McCarthy got on the scene, there was no effective American communist party - not that it was ever particularly large to begin with.

Finally, you have got to look at the history of America and dictators.

The history of American governments supporting utter bastards totalitarians is long and checkered. It covers both ends of the spectrum, but it usually is the American right protecting American business that puts them in place.

A list of American installed dictators (Short form)

Samoza,
Batista
Bao Di
The Sha of Iran
Saddam Hussein

Do you really want to make this argument in light of the history?

I am no scholar, but I did read all three volumes of The Gulag Archipelago. In it, Solzhenitsyn execrates "the anti-fascists and the existentialists, the pacifists, the hearts that bled for Africa [but] had nothing to say about the destruction of our culture, about the destruction of our nation." I have also read Sidney Hook's memoir, he who helped build the pro-Marxist consensus in the 1930s Left, only to reverse himself later. I don't believe that the pro-Soviet, pro-Mao, pro-Castro Western Left can be of-coursed aside as a few moonbats. The depth and breadth of the penetration of utopia into their very souls has been copiously documented. It was a love affair at the time, and is an object of warm, if shameful, nostalgia now.

As for the Left feeling betrayed by Stalin, that was because of the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact of 1939--not so much for all the millions of lives he had wrecked in the preceding decade. If they were ever going to be ruffled by that, they would have listened to Stalin's own personal secretary, after he defected in the late 20s.

356 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:34:54pm

re: #292 The Shadow Do

Theres a lot not to be proud of - gross inequality between rich and poor, people on the breadline, people dyinng without lifesaving drugs, the whole civil righst protestor beat down thing - and you lose it over this?

357 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:34:54pm

re: #353 Varek Raith

Not on your part, SFZ.
:)

358 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:35:34pm

re: #350 swamprat

there is no communist party - is not equal to there are no communists.


ASS

359 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:35:57pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

I think cliffster actually said it upthread. THey're pining for the good old days of the cold war when 'everything was simple', and everybody acknowledged that the far left was the bad guys.

360 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:06pm

re: #344 ~Fianna

I like the "Movimiento Nacionalsocialista de Euskalherria"
It's much friendlier looking than most other nazi symbols.

361 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:28pm

re: #356 wozzablog

Damn Furriners telling us what to do!!

Go back to England!!!!!!1!

362 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:32pm

re: #347 wozzablog

OUCH.

They walk among us... holy shit.

Unfortunately, I'm all too familiar with how close they can walk.

I have a very close friend whose little brother is involved in that movement.

The sad thing is that he's not a stupid person. He just needed something to belong to and some group to validate himself by.

I guess they're like any other violent gang - they find the lost boys and pump them up with false ideas of manhood and belonging and suck them in.

It's... ugh, I hate even thinking about it. It's just really, really sad.

363 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:41pm

re: #327 cliffster

No. it was scarier then. Now our nation's leaders are focused on taking out piss ant Tali ban and al- queada leaders by drones and assassins. We were paralyzed during the Cold War. It was to our great fortune that Regan and Gorbachev were leaders then.

364 swamprat  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:49pm

re: #358 wozzablog

ok

365 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:49pm

re: #354 TheMatrix31

I might verbally beat the living shit out of the next person I see on campus wearing a Che shirt at a tea party waving a neo-Nazi flag.


;)

366 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:58pm

re: #309 freetoken

Was it the Tennessee State Flag?

That's what it looks like to me, but I'm not sure. Even watching it full screen in 480p it's hard to get a really clear picture. I'd say it was just the Tennessee flag, but who knows.

367 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:36:59pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously. Why does this subject keep coming up? I mean, yes, the hazy-crazy kids still walk around with their dumbass Che shirts, and back in the day, the far left fringe was all high on the U.S.S.R., but these were never mainstream American liberal stances, and the Cold War has been over since I was in blinkin' middle school.

Why do I get broadsided every few days around here with another round of "Well, the left loves Stalin"?

I do not effing get it.


Oh MAN no doubt. I try to stay out of the creepy beard stroking about this stuff, because it's just mindless idiot partisanship. There's nothing to argue, it's just ra ra for my football team, boo for theirs. Kid stuff.

368 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:37:19pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Not me, I never loved Stalin, Mao's precepts of state communism are much more refined and worthy of my adoration.

/sigh...

369 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:37:48pm

re: #350 swamprat

America was worse.

your words

Wow you really are an idiot.

If something peaked and then dwindled it had to exist. So no, I certainly never claimed that there were no commies.

American leftists, with the exception of a small and deluded minority, do not like Stalin. Yes that is true.

America was worse than who? Are you completely stupid?

No America installed totalitarian dictators usually to benefit right wing interests. You know things like oil and sugar and bananas and all that... when we weren't installing them as counterparts to Russian installed dictators.

370 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:37:52pm

re: #351 Alouette

It's not any state flag, it's the same as the "Y-flag" you have linked.

If it is a neo-Nazi flag in places the Stormfront crowd in the general vicinity as the black lawmakers around the same time. That could explain the "n" word incident.

371 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:37:59pm

re: #366 Lidane

That's what it looks like to me, but I'm not sure. Even watching it full screen in 480p it's hard to get a really clear picture. I'd say it was just the Tennessee flag, but who knows.

That would explain the blue and white stripe down one edge.

372 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:00pm

re: #365 Varek Raith

;)

Save your corrections for my statements.

373 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:09pm

re: #363 prairiefire

No. it was scarier then. Now our nation's leaders are focused on taking out piss ant Tali ban and al- queada leaders by drones and assassins. We were paralyzed during the Cold War. It was to our great fortune that Anybody and Gorbachev were leaders then.

FixT

374 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:23pm

re: #359 windsagio

I think cliffster actually said it upthread. THey're pining for the good old days of the cold war when 'everything was simple', and everybody acknowledged that the far left was the bad guys.

Love how we are called "leftists" now by the fox folks.

375 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:23pm

re: #366 Lidane

The screen cap posted makes it pretty clear that it is not the TN flag, but the Y-flag.

376 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:26pm

re: #10 jaunte

Must be Iditarodstein.

I'm pretty sure that's Todd Palin.

377 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:42pm

re: #360 Killgore Trout

I like the "Movimiento Nacionalsocialista de Euskalherria"
It's much friendlier looking than most other nazi symbols.

It looks like a swastika on an acid trip.

Any flag that has a red background, a white circle and a black logo, you know what it is. They can put a star of David in the white circle and it would still be a nazi flag.

378 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:38:50pm

re: #355 The Sanity Inspector

I am no scholar, but I did read all three volumes of The Gulag Archipelago. In it, Solzhenitsyn execrates "the anti-fascists and the existentialists, the pacifists, the hearts that bled for Africa [but] had nothing to say about the destruction of our culture, about the destruction of our nation." I have also read Sidney Hook's memoir, he who helped build the pro-Marxist consensus in the 1930s Left, only to reverse himself later. I don't believe that the pro-Soviet, pro-Mao, pro-Castro Western Left can be of-coursed aside as a few moonbats. The depth and breadth of the penetration of utopia into their very souls has been copiously documented. It was a love affair at the time, and is an object of warm, if shameful, nostalgia now.

As for the Left feeling betrayed by Stalin, that was because of the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact of 1939--not so much for all the millions of lives he had wrecked in the preceding decade. If they were ever going to be ruffled by that, they would have listened to Stalin's own personal secretary, after he defected in the late 20s.


GAZE

379 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:12pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously. Why does this subject keep coming up? I mean, yes, the hazy-crazy kids still walk around with their dumbass Che shirts, and back in the day, the far left fringe was all high on the U.S.S.R., but these were never mainstream American liberal stances, and the Cold War has been over since I was in blinkin' middle school.

Why do I get broadsided every few days around here with another round of "Well, the left loves Stalin"?

I do not effing get it.

That's why I said it was not on point. Obama's health care bill was not Marxist, nor is his agenda. Talk of "MARXISM!!1" is just a scare tactic employed to rile up the conservative base.

380 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:17pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

I really wanna be called a "Fellow Traveler"

381 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:19pm

re: #372 TheMatrix31

Although both need to get the living fuck beat out of them, not just one over the other.

382 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:30pm

re: #373 windsagio

Windy, ya gotta give credit where credit is due.

383 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:38pm

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

So is "socialist"

384 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:44pm

re: #372 TheMatrix31

Save your corrections for my statements.

No, thanks.

385 swamprat  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:39:54pm

re: #369 LudwigVanQuixote

I guess I really am that stupid.

386 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:40:04pm

re: #375 freetoken

I'm looking at the screen cap, and I think it's Tennessee. The tops of the "Y's" aren't right, I think it's just a low res image making the stars look like the negative spaces in that Y flag.

387 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:40:12pm

re: #366 Lidane

That's what it looks like to me, but I'm not sure. Even watching it full screen in 480p it's hard to get a really clear picture. I'd say it was just the Tennessee flag, but who knows.

Definitely not the Tennessee flag, which has 3 stars in a blue circle.

388 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:40:17pm

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

I'm not a fan of Obama's history and associations. Maybe he's not a full blown Marxist, but then maybe he shouldnt have associated with the pieces of shit he associated with for so long, to avoid any confusion over the matter.

389 ~Fianna  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:40:18pm

re: #360 Killgore Trout

I like the "Movimiento Nacionalsocialista de Euskalherria"
It's much friendlier looking than most other nazi symbols.

Probably really effective, too.

I wouldn't know what that was if my neighbor ran it up their flagpole.

I'm really, really dreading this weekend. Vegas here, and the teabaggers are streaming in for the We Hate Harry rally followed by Ann Coulter speaking in Henderson.

I really hope to God that these people can peacefully demonstrate and use their First Amendment rights without making a mockery out of their Second Amendment rights.

390 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:40:20pm

re: #366 Lidane

varek posted a full size image - looks like the Y flag to me.

it doesn't suprise me as much as it should.

If it is the Tn flag - its the worst makeup job i've ever seen.

391 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:40:24pm

re: #381 TheMatrix31

Aah, aah internet macho!

392 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:41:04pm

re: #383 windsagio

So is "socialist"

Obama will sieze the means of production! By giving a giant present to big Pharma and insurance! :D

393 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:41:17pm

re: #388 TheMatrix31

I'm not a fan of Obama's history and associations. Maybe he's not a full blown Marxist, but then maybe he shouldnt have associated with the pieces of shit he associated with for so long, to avoid any confusion over the matter.

GAZE AGAIN

394 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:41:21pm

re: #387 Alouette

Look at the stripe down the right edge on the screencap, it matches the TN flag.

395 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:41:23pm

re: #327 cliffster

I miss the cold war. Everything was simpler then

Bomb shelters and hiding under the school desks. What a lark!

396 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:41:44pm

re: #354 TheMatrix31

I might beat the living shit out of the next person I see on campus wearing a Che shirt.

That will solve a lot.

397 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:41:55pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously. Why does this subject keep coming up? I mean, yes, the hazy-crazy kids still walk around with their dumbass Che shirts, and back in the day, the far left fringe was all high on the U.S.S.R., but these were never mainstream American liberal stances, and the Cold War has been over since I was in blinkin' middle school.

Why do I get broadsided every few days around here with another round of "Well, the left loves Stalin"?

I do not effing get it.

The right wing nuts in the absence of rational arguments or historical fact has fallen back to the oldest of smear debate tactics - questioning your loyalty to America.

So let me set this straight all you wingnut fools here...

TALK OF SECESSION IS TREASON! WANNA TALK REVOLUTION? WHAT ABOUT THAT?

398 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:00pm

re: #391 windsagio

No. Not really. This is regarding my conduct OFF the internet anyway.

399 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:10pm

re: #385 swamprat

I guess I really am that stupid.

On this we agree.

400 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:18pm

re: #382 prairiefire

Sure, I just think it has alot more to do with Gorby. At most Reagan sped it up by a year or too.

Gorbachev was just the one to finally see the writing on the wall and accept it was over.

401 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:20pm

Maybe its the beer talkin', but I still think Obama is out of his league.

402 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:24pm

re: #393 WindUpBird

Like I give a fuck if you read my posts or not?

403 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:33pm

re: #380 windsagio

It is a good term, it's one i like - but then who am i?.

404 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:34pm

re: #140 Racer X

If Yediot Ahronot is suddenly an acceptable source, then let's revisit their published first person account from a self-described mad, inexperienced IDF D-9 bulldozer operator named "Kurdi Bear" who "kept drinking whisky to fight off fatigue" while leveling Jenin. No, I get it, then they were a worthless tabloid, but now they're an objective news source.

405 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:42:36pm

re: #393 WindUpBird

pff gazing is so trashy >>

406 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:14pm

re: #356 wozzablog

Theres a lot not to be proud of - gross inequality between rich and poor, people on the breadline, people dyinng without lifesaving drugs, the whole civil righst protestor beat down thing - and you lose it over this?

America sucks

407 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:16pm

Franken steen

408 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:31pm

re: #380 windsagio

I really wanna be called a "Fellow Traveler"

Oh, someone will slip, sooner or later.

I agree though - love that term. ooh ooh, I'm a 2010 leftist commie symp.

409 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:32pm

re: #370 Killgore Trout

If it is a neo-Nazi flag in places the Stormfront crowd in the general vicinity as the black lawmakers around the same time. That could explain the "n" word incident.

The black symbol in a white circle, surrounded by a red field mark it as a stand-in for the swastika. And the actions and intentions of those under its banner are the same as those who formed the old SA behind Hitler.

410 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:33pm

re: #406 The Shadow Do

America sucks

Fuck odf

411 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:44pm

re: #395 Silvergirl

Bomb shelters and hiding under the school desks. What a lark!

The thought that you might wake up in a cloud of plasma did make the nuns' job easier.

412 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:53pm

re: #394 jaunte

Looking at the video full screen, and the screen cap, it just doesn't look like three white stars.

Perhaps the stripe down the side is meant to be there, in order to identify the holder as being from Tennessee. Sort of a melded symbolism?

413 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:54pm

re: #371 jaunte

That would explain the blue and white stripe down one edge.

That's what keeps catching my eye.

Plus, the Nazis over at Stormfront wouldn't have a problem carrying an actual swastika flag, or some other actual racist symbols. Why would they disguise anything to make it look like a state flag?

I'm not saying that it's not that Y-flag, but I just don't understand the rationale of why it would be used at all. If you're bigoted and twisted enough to align yourself openly with a Nazi hate group, you're going to be delusional enough to carry your symbols openly.

414 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:43:59pm

re: #405 windsagio

pff gazing is so trashy >>

I'm a trashy guy! :D

415 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:12pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously. Why does this subject keep coming up? I mean, yes, the hazy-crazy kids still walk around with their dumbass Che shirts, and back in the day, the far left fringe was all high on the U.S.S.R., but these were never mainstream American liberal stances, and the Cold War has been over since I was in blinkin' middle school.

Why do I get broadsided every few days around here with another round of "Well, the left loves Stalin"?

I do not effing get it.

FWIW, I've been speaking of the past, several decades ago. The average college Che-shirt wearer barely knows who Stalin is, let alone anything about him. And present company is of course excepted, in any discussion of Soviet apologists.

416 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:30pm

re: #401 Racer X

Maybe its the beer talkin', but I still think Obama is out of his league.

YOURE out of yur element donny

417 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:50pm

re: #404 goddamnedfrank

Obama really is determined to keep America as Israel's BFF. Got it.

418 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:52pm

re: #406 The Shadow Do

Troll it up more.


Acutally if you want, be an adult, actually look at whats going on, and don't constantly resort to inflammatory rhetoric to make your 'points' (ie express your hate).

419 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:57pm

I for one totally want to hear more about how some guy is totally going to beat up a dude because that is very important and brilliant discourse

420 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:57pm

re: #415 The Sanity Inspector

whats fwiw?

421 swamprat  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:44:58pm

I am going to bail. I don't want to draw a 100 post argument.

422 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:45:00pm

re: #406 The Shadow Do

If you say so.

I take a slightly more upbeat approach myself.

Drink another glass of whiskey and things will be better in the mornig - and stop being so down on the place. It really isn't all that bad.

423 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:45:16pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

I for one totally want to hear more about how some guy is totally going to beat up a dude because that is very important and brilliant discourse

Whatt?????????????

424 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:45:37pm

re: #422 wozzablog

If you say so.

I take a slightly more upbeat approach myself.

Drink another glass of whiskey and things will be better in the mornig - and stop being so down on the place. It really isn't all that bad.

Mornig or Morgin>?

425 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:45:44pm

re: #383 windsagio

So is "socialist"

I don't think so. Socialist and Marxist are not the same thing. The problem is that 'socialist' is being used as a code-word, which ribs it of its meaning and turns it into a pejorative.

426 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:45:50pm

I've got a bone to pick about this "GAZE" crap.

If people WERE to actually pass over a post, they'd just do it and move on. But they're so fixed on SHOWING that they're so cool to pass over someone's post and dismissing their post as worthless, that they just HAVE to show it.

Attention whores.

427 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:03pm

What place?

428 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:03pm

re: #421 swamprat

pff weenie.

429 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:16pm

re: #412 freetoken

Looking at the video full screen, and the screen cap, it just doesn't look like three white stars.

Perhaps the stripe down the side is meant to be there, in order to identify the holder as being from Tennessee. Sort of a melded symbolism?

I'm pretty sure it's the state flag, the Y's aren''t shaped like Ys. I'm looking at a blowup in Photoshop.

430 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:17pm

re: #426 TheMatrix31

I've got a bone to pick about this "GAZE" crap.

If people WERE to actually pass over a post, they'd just do it and move on. But they're so fixed on SHOWING that they're so cool to pass over someone's post and dismissing their post as worthless, that they just HAVE to show it.

Attention whores.

gaxe

431 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:18pm

re: #420 Bourdain's Breakfast

whats fwiw?

You wouldn't happen to know a guy named YoungLibertarian, would you?

432 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:19pm

re: #416 Bourdain's Breakfast

YOURE out of yur element donny

Welcome Noob!

Go fetch me another beer.

433 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:38pm

re: #429 jaunte

I'm pretty sure it's the state flag, the Y's aren''t shaped like Ys. I'm looking at a blowup in Photoshop.

what?????????????

434 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:39pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

If you're not wearing the shirts, then why do you give a shit about what I say or do?

435 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:49pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

The reason I brought it up is that people constantly and incorrectly describe Obama and the Dems as 'socialists'.

You're right about it being a perjorative, but its being used as a dishonest dogwhistle, too.

436 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:46:58pm

re: #432 Racer X

Welcome Noob!

Go fetch me another beer.

What?????????????????

437 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:47:26pm

re: #436 Bourdain's Breakfast

What???

I'm starting to like this guy.

438 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #426 TheMatrix31

I actually agree that the gaze thing is crap. Altho' I idnd't know thats what it was supposed to mean.

You are a bigot tho' :p

439 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #435 windsagio

The reason I brought it up is that people constantly and incorrectly describe Obama and the Dems as 'socialists'.

You're right about it being a perjorative, but its being used as a dishonest dogwhistle, too.

Its not socialism its ...ism!

440 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:47:31pm

re: #424 Bourdain's Breakfast

more gin, if you are offering.

a couple of fingers and slide it on down the bar.

theres a good chap.

441 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:47:45pm

re: #433 Bourdain's Breakfast

what???

Photoshop.

442 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:47:53pm

re: #420 Bourdain's Breakfast

whats fwiw?

For what it's worth.

443 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:03pm

re: #438 windsagio

I actually agree that the gaze thing is crap. Altho' I idnd't know thats what it was supposed to mean.

You are a bigot tho' :p

I believe you mwent to say bigotph

444 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:08pm

re: #436 Bourdain's Breakfast

What???

Love the nick!

445 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:20pm

re: #442 The Sanity Inspector

For what it's worth.

What?????????????????

446 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:21pm

re: #354 TheMatrix31

I might beat the living shit out of the next person I see on campus wearing a Che shirt.

I advise against it.

447 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:24pm

re: #388 TheMatrix31

I'm not a fan of Obama's history and associations. Maybe he's not a full blown Marxist, but then maybe he shouldnt have associated with the pieces of shit he associated with for so long, to avoid any confusion over the matter.

I love how some people are downdinging this post when it is the very blog we're posting at that uncovered so many of the associations Obama had/has.

448 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:28pm

re: #423 Bourdain's Breakfast

Whatt???

See:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

449 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:33pm

Red flags a waving!

450 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:42pm

re: #413 Lidane

Plus, the Nazis over at Stormfront wouldn't have a problem carrying an actual swastika flag, or some other actual racist symbols. Why would they disguise anything to make it look like a state flag?


They've discussed their strategy on Stormfront. A swastika is too much of a turn off. They use other symbols that aren't as obvious. They are there to recruit and pass out literature. A swastika would get them thrown out. They can't be that obvious.

451 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:48:43pm

re: #438 windsagio

I actually agree that the gaze thing is crap. Altho' I idnd't know thats what it was supposed to mean.

You are a bigot tho' :p

A "bigot"? For what?

452 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:03pm

re: #451 TheMatrix31

you? >>

453 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:04pm

re: #446 SanFranciscoZionist

I advise against it.

Nowwwww, we see the violence inherent in the opposition!

454 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:05pm

Educational & stimulating as always, but gotta turn in. Those of you who like shimmering guitar tones, you may enjoy this:

Youtube Video
455 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:10pm

re: #452 windsagio

*ZING*!

456 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:37pm

re: #361 windsagio

:p

457 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:48pm

re: #435 windsagio

The reason I brought it up is that people constantly and incorrectly describe Obama and the Dems as 'socialists'.

You're right about it being a perjorative, but its being used as a dishonest dogwhistle, too.

Concur. I was using "code-word" as a synonym for "dog whistle".

458 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:53pm

re: #447 TheMatrix31

I love how some people are downdinging this post when it is the very blog we're posting at that uncovered so many of the associations Obama had/has.

I don't pay much attention to downdings. I do find it annoying when someone announces "GAZE", but then never sticks to it.

Say what you mean, mean what you say.

459 Altermite  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:49:57pm

re: #435 windsagio

The reason I brought it up is that people constantly and incorrectly describe Obama and the Dems as 'socialists'.

You're right about it being a perjorative, but its being used as a dishonest dogwhistle, too.

What is it being used as a dogwhistle for, other than "We don't like this guy"?

460 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:06pm

re: #445 Bourdain's Breakfast

What???

As in, "what I'm about to say may or may not make a difference in how you feel, but here it is anyway. For what it's worth."

461 Lidane  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:11pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

Ah. Since I generally don't keep up with those mental midgets, I missed that. Fair enough.

I was sitting here confused about why the flag was an issue. Now I get it.

462 windsagio  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:11pm

re: #457 Dark_Falcon

fair enough >

463 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:12pm

re: #393 WindUpBird

GAZE AGAIN

it's not a gaze if you keep posting gaze!
don't post gaze if you are gonna gaze!
rule #17

464 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:20pm

re: #359 windsagio

I think cliffster actually said it upthread. THey're pining for the good old days of the cold war when 'everything was simple', and everybody acknowledged that the far left was the bad guys.

As far as I'm concerned, the far left is bad guys. It's just that, right now, they're fairly unimportant bad guys.

465 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:20pm

re: #429 jaunte

I'm pretty sure it's the state flag, the Y's aren''t shaped like Ys. I'm looking at a blowup in Photoshop.

Post what you got!!

466 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:31pm

re: #388 TheMatrix31

I'm not a fan of Obama's history and associations. Maybe he's not a full blown Marxist, but then maybe he shouldnt have associated with the pieces of shit he associated with for so long, to avoid any confusion over the matter.

Obama doesn't have the balls to be a Marxist. If he was "starting from scratch" though, he would bring in socialized medicine. He still hopes to do so "in stages".

467 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:43pm

re: #449 Varek Raith

Red flags a waving!

Agreed. I think YL92 is at it again.

468 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:53pm

OK, this is tough. My wife just went to the garage on her way to work. "OMG something is out here!"
I go out to investigate and sure enough there is a rodent stuck to a sticky pad I had put out months ago - thrashing about until I approach, and then it goes still.
"It's nothing honey"
She drives away, I get a flashlight to see just what is what. There is a smallish roof rat? stuck by its front paws to the pad. Shit. It looked up at me. I feel really rotten. I think I will go have a drink or something. Please die fast Mr. Rat.

469 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:50:57pm

re: #467 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I think YL92 is at it again.

Indeed.

470 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:51:09pm

re: #417 Racer X

Obama really is determined to keep America as Israel's BFF. Got it.

Israel's BFF isn't going be dishonest and say it's shit doesn't stink, that's what it has Dominionist Christians for:

Prominent Israeli rabbis are for the first time speaking out against Israel's profitable alliance with evangelical Christians in the United States who have funneled tens of millions of dollars to the Jewish state.

The rabbis fear the Christians' real intent is to convert Jews, their aides said Monday. Others are concerned about the evangelicals' support for Israel's extreme right-wing, opposing any compromise with the Palestinians.

The dispute touches on an increasingly sensitive issue in Israel: the country's dependence, both economically and politically, on conservative American Christians.

Besides contributing tidy sums to projects in Israel, some evangelical Christians have lobbied in support of the Israeli government in Washington.

Troubling to Israelis is the fact that one influential group of evangelicals believes in a final, apocalyptic battle between good and evil in which Jesus returns and Jews either accept him or perish a vision that causes obvious discomfort among Jews.

471 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:51:46pm

re: #418 windsagio

Troll it up more.


Acutally if you want, be an adult, actually look at whats going on, and don't constantly resort to inflammatory rhetoric to make your 'points' (ie express your hate).

Yes, I am a hater, no question.

472 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:51:48pm

re: #466 Spare O'Lake

Obama doesn't have the balls to be a Marxist. If he was "starting from scratch" though, he would bring in socialized medicine. He still hopes to do so "in stages".

So, you are saying he is a Fabian Socialist?

473 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:10pm

re: #460 The Sanity Inspector

As in, "what I'm about to say may or may not make a difference in how you feel, but here it is anyway. For what it's worth."

FWIWhat?????????????

474 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:16pm

re: #452 windsagio

What the fuck does that even mean? Make sense or stop talking and throwing accusations around.

475 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:20pm

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

As far as I'm concerned, the far left is bad guys. It's just that, right now, they're fairly unimportant bad guys.

That's true, for now.

476 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:33pm

re: #468 The Shadow Do

LOL

477 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:40pm

re: #429 jaunte

I'd give you about an 85% chance of being correct.

I guess it is one of those sublime mysteries of the universe that the Tennessee state flag, when viewed at a far enough distant, resembles a nazi flag. Who knew?

478 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:41pm

re: #422 wozzablog

If you say so.

I take a slightly more upbeat approach myself.

Drink another glass of whiskey and things will be better in the mornig - and stop being so down on the place. It really isn't all that bad.

Evidently the sarc tag is mandatory.

479 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:42pm

re: #470 goddamnedfrank

*NEWSFLASH*

Everyone's shit stinks.

film at 11.

480 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:52:54pm

re: #407 Bourdain's Breakfast

re: #468 The Shadow Do

Sometimes a BB gun will put them out faster.

481 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:53:05pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

My screen isn't sharp enough to be definitive. All I have on the Y flag is that is is associated with an anti-Jewish attack in LA. Is there any more on it?

482 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:53:17pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

They've discussed their strategy on Stormfront. A swastika is too much of a turn off. They use other symbols that aren't as obvious. They are there to recruit and pass out literature. A swastika would get them thrown out. They can't be that obvious.

Yep. Tea Party is having a PR nightmare as it is, let's throw in the swastika!

483 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:53:33pm

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

As far as I'm concerned, the far left is bad guys. It's just that, right now, they're fairly unimportant bad guys.

Far Left = Far right. check your'e Janis Jpollin

484 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:53:33pm

re: #464 SanFranciscoZionist

As far as I'm concerned, the far left is bad guys. It's just that, right now, they're fairly unimportant bad guys.

right, left..they are all bad guys to me...the hyper partisanship is just lunacy...the blame game will never stop, and it's a huge factor in deciding personal points of view for people...blame is 360 degrees

485 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:53:53pm

re: #473 Bourdain's Breakfast

FWIWhat???

You're like a booger on my fingernail that I can't flick off, aren't you?

486 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:54:59pm

re: #466 Spare O'Lake

Obama doesn't have the balls to be a Marxist. If he was "starting from scratch" though, he would bring in socialized medicine. He still hopes to do so "in stages".

Imagine a world where people won't be "dropped" from their "coverage" because they have "cancer" or their "kids" have a "disease".

487 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:03pm

Evening all...any interesting flounces tonight?

488 bratwurst  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:03pm

re: #483 Bourdain's Breakfast

Far Left = Far right. check your'e Janis Jpollin

I have to party with you sometime, cowboy.

489 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:06pm

re: #478 The Shadow Do

Couldn't resist.

490 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:10pm

re: #463 albusteve

it's not a gaze if you keep posting gaze!
don't post gaze if you are gonna gaze!
rule #17

Gaxe. Nekama Troll Hammer. Zombietime, wait, wrong site.

491 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:16pm

re: #477 freetoken

I think the white stars are just blowing out some of the blue background around them at that resolution.
Image: Untitled-2.png

492 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:26pm

re: #415 The Sanity Inspector

FWIW, I've been speaking of the past, several decades ago. The average college Che-shirt wearer barely knows who Stalin is, let alone anything about him. And present company is of course excepted, in any discussion of Soviet apologists.

I agree. So why are we having this discussion yet again?

493 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:27pm

re: #485 The Sanity Inspector

You're like a booger on my fingernail that I can't flick off, aren't you?

Nothing till be done till Charles gets back to check on this one. I smell socks.

494 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:29pm

re: #447 TheMatrix31

I love how some people are downdinging this post when it is the very blog we're posting at that uncovered so many of the associations Obama had/has.

This is true. Time marches on. Time and tide wait for no man. How many more of those do I need to say?

495 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:33pm

re: #484 albusteve

right, left..they are all bad guys to me...the hyper partisanship is just lunacy...the blame game will never stop, and it's a huge factor in deciding personal points of view for people...blame is 360 degrees

Holee farkin crap! My whole life just flashed before my eyes. I see dogs and cats now living in harmony.

Excellent post Steve.

496 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:37pm

re: #487 PT Barnum

It is starting to get spicy.

497 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:39pm

re: #486 WindUpBird

it's easy if you try...........

498 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:47pm

This beer is strong.

499 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:55:55pm

re: #485 The Sanity Inspector

You're like a booger on my fingernail that I can't flick off, aren't you?

Wasn't there a sock of YoungLibertarian that pulled this act, then Charles showed up and banned him?

500 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:56:22pm

re: #434 TheMatrix31

If you're not wearing the shirts, then why do you give a shit about what I say or do?

I would prefer that Lizards not start beating up dumbasses on campus.

501 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:56:27pm

re: #486 WindUpBird

MP3 Audio
502 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:56:32pm

re: #483 Bourdain's Breakfast

Far Left = Far right. check your'e Janis Jpollin

Check your spelling....And walk carefully noobie...

503 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:56:42pm

re: #490 Bourdain's Breakfast

That one sent up a red flag as big as a blanket.

504 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:57:07pm

re: #480 prairiefire

re: #468 The Shadow Do

Sometimes a BB gun will put them out faster.

But you could lose an eye!

505 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:57:25pm

re: #499 WindUpBird

Wasn't there a sock of YoungLibertarian that pulled this act, then Charles showed up and banned him?

Hmm. My Spidey senses are tingling as well.

506 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:57:30pm

re: #491 jaunte

I agree. I just like the irony about the similarities.

507 Altermite  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:57:42pm

re: #499 WindUpBird

Wasn't there a sock of YoungLibertarian that pulled this act, then Charles showed up and banned him?

Clearly that means this individual is also YL.

YL barely tries to hide who he is when he logs on, iirc. If it is him, I'm sure charles will figure it out quickly.

508 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:57:43pm

re: #484 albusteve

right, left..they are all bad guys to me...the hyper partisanship is just lunacy...the blame game will never stop, and it's a huge factor in deciding personal points of view for people...blame is 360 degrees

All right, who the hell are you and what have you done with Steve?

509 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:57:45pm

My tummy feels better.

510 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:00pm

re: #486 WindUpBird

Imagine a world where people won't be "dropped" from their "coverage" because they have "cancer" or their "kids" have a "disease".

I do...and I also imagine a world where accumulating wealth becomes some politico/socio sin, or a world where the feds control the food production and the regulates the Beef-O-Roni markets

511 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:08pm

re: #468 The Shadow Do

OK, this is tough. My wife just went to the garage on her way to work. "OMG something is out here!"
I go out to investigate and sure enough there is a rodent stuck to a sticky pad I had put out months ago - thrashing about until I approach, and then it goes still.
"It's nothing honey"
She drives away, I get a flashlight to see just what is what. There is a smallish roof rat? stuck by its front paws to the pad. Shit. It looked up at me. I feel really rotten. I think I will go have a drink or something. Please die fast Mr. Rat.

OK, that is the worst. Gopher catching at my house ended with, it's still alive? you mean I have to club it? awful.

512 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:09pm

re: #500 SanFranciscoZionist

I would prefer that Lizards not start beating up dumbasses on campus.

Would be nice, but sometimes, people deserve to have the stupid beat out of them.

513 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:26pm

re: #463 albusteve

it's not a gaze if you keep posting gaze!
don't post gaze if you are gonna gaze!
rule #17

Right. There is no GAZE AGAIN. To GAZE AGAIN is to say you've released the gaze. I'll only explain this again if you say Mother may I. Then I'll give you the red light or the green light.

Duck duck GOOSE!

514 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:29pm

re: #498 Racer X

This beer is strong.

what is it what is it?

I had McTarnahan's Spinetingler Trippel last night. 8.5%, two of those and I was all WHEEEEE

515 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:40pm

re: #506 freetoken

To Killgore's point, a states rights pitch is the sort of entryism that is likely to be adopted by those groups.

516 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:43pm

You people are giving the troll exactly what he wants.

517 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:58:46pm

re: #466 Spare O'Lake

Obama doesn't have the balls to be a Marxist. If he was "starting from scratch" though, he would bring in socialized medicine. He still hopes to do so "in stages".

Actually, I believe the man always mean what he says and says what he means. If he were a socialist or Marxist, he would have said so by now, and then the electorate would, by and large, respect he change that he is bringing.

518 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:59:11pm

re: #468 The Shadow Do

Bucket of water, will speed up the process.

519 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:59:11pm

re: #507 Altermite

Clearly that means this individual is also YL.

YL barely tries to hide who he is when he logs on, iirc. If it is him, I'm sure charles will figure it out quickly.

I'm just bringing it up, because the MO is the same, the same sort of intentionally spammy guy who says nothing.

520 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:59:28pm

re: #490 Bourdain's Breakfast

Gaxe. Nekama Troll Hammer. Zombietime, wait, wrong site.

I think you are somewhat confused

521 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:59:35pm

re: #504 The Shadow Do

You do have to watch out for ricochet. The last time I saw a rat shot was with a BB gun was in my old gangster house, in between shelves of a stereo cabinet. Shiny eyes is the darkness, then bam.

522 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:59:52pm

re: #468 The Shadow Do

OK, this is tough. My wife just went to the garage on her way to work. "OMG something is out here!"
I go out to investigate and sure enough there is a rodent stuck to a sticky pad I had put out months ago - thrashing about until I approach, and then it goes still.
"It's nothing honey"
She drives away, I get a flashlight to see just what is what. There is a smallish roof rat? stuck by its front paws to the pad. Shit. It looked up at me. I feel really rotten. I think I will go have a drink or something. Please die fast Mr. Rat.

PETA attention queens protest mouse traps at Lowe's and Home Depot. (what if you found one of those things in your garage?)

523 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 7:59:55pm

re: #513 Silvergirl

Right. There is no GAZE AGAIN. To GAZE AGAIN is to say you've released the gaze. I'll only explain this again if you say Mother may I. Then I'll give you the red light or the green light.

Duck duck GOOSE!

I gazed two different people! I'd have to gaze each of them again to release the spell!

524 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:00:20pm

re: #491 jaunte

I'm not ready to change my call yet - there isn't enough dark block colour in the center. White shapes are also not pronouced enough as stars.

525 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:00:20pm

re: #522 Alouette

PETA attention queens protest mouse traps at Lowe's and Home Depot. (what if you found one of those things in your garage?)

Peta never misses an opportunity to be insane XD

526 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:00:23pm

re: #523 WindUpBird

I gazed two different people! I'd have to gaze each of them again to release the spell!

I like gazed doughnuts..

527 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:00:36pm

re: #502 HoosierHoops

Check your spelling...And walk carefully noobie...

I have no idea what that meant, but I like Janis Joplin

528 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:00:59pm

re: #514 WindUpBird

what is it what is it?

I had McTarnahan's Spinetingler Trippel last night. 8.5%, two of those and I was all WHEEE

Unibroue Maudite.

8%.

Trader Joe's had 'em on sale. Tasty. Fruity. Hoppy.

529 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:01:05pm

re: #523 WindUpBird

I gazed two different people! I'd have to gaze each of them again to release the spell!

Quick! Someone look it up to see if that'll work!

530 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:01:12pm

Evening Infidels.

531 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:01:12pm

re: #526 PT Barnum

I like gazed doughnuts..

You can gaze through the hole!

532 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:01:28pm

re: #525 WindUpBird

Peta never misses an opportunity to be insane XD

HEy as long as they keep finding hot babes to wear nearly nothing in public..I'm willing to deal with a little insanity :)

533 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:01:38pm

Jim Marshall died yesterday. You may not have heard of him, but you know his pictures. RIP.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

534 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:01:42pm

re: #528 Racer X

Unibroue Maudite.

8%.

Trader Joe's had 'em on sale. Tasty. Fruity. Hoppy.

FUCK YES YES YES YES

I love all Unibroue beers, Maudite and Fin Du Monde are my two favorites :D

535 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:02:01pm

re: #512 TheMatrix31

The only group i hold that opinion of are the fash - but thats it, dumb frat kids?...........nah.

536 Altermite  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:02:09pm

re: #519 WindUpBird

I'm just bringing it up, because the MO is the same, the same sort of intentionally spammy guy who says nothing.


I mean, yes, but chatty guys on the internet aren't uncommon. Especially in comment threads on blogs.

537 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:02:18pm

re: #517 Bourdain's Breakfast

You've been registered here before huh. What was you other nic?

538 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:02:27pm

re: #369 LudwigVanQuixote

Wow you really are an idiot.

If something peaked and then dwindled it had to exist. So no, I certainly never claimed that there were no commies.

American leftists, with the exception of a small and deluded minority, do not like Stalin. Yes that is true.

America was worse than who? Are you completely stupid?

No America installed totalitarian dictators usually to benefit right wing interests. You know things like oil and sugar and bananas and all that... when we weren't installing them as counterparts to Russian installed dictators.

Walter Duranty, the New York Times and the Pulitzer Prize committee, all deluded. I agree.

539 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:02:46pm

re: #531 WindUpBird

You can gaze through the hole!

Look quick--doughnut hole is closing.

540 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:03:08pm

re: #513 Silvergirl

Right. There is no GAZE AGAIN. To GAZE AGAIN is to say you've released the gaze. I'll only explain this again if you say Mother may I. Then I'll give you the red light or the green light.

Duck duck GOOSE!

NOTICE!
tomorrow at 11am
Gazeology 101
Rm 212
this class is required for incoming noobs

541 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:03:35pm

re: #525 WindUpBird

Peta never misses an opportunity to be insane XD

Well, at least they make sure their nekkid protest chicks are hot and not saggy fat Code Pinkistas.

542 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:04:07pm

re: #533 austin_blue

Jim Marshall died yesterday. You may not have heard of him, but you know his pictures. RIP.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Godspeed to him. He showcased the talent that defined Rock and Roll and for that we should be grateful.

543 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:04:13pm

re: #540 albusteve


this class is required for incoming noobs

Be prepared for a full classroom. I hope you have "add codes" ready to go.

544 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:04:26pm

re: #511 Stanley Sea

OK, that is the worst. Gopher catching at my house ended with, it's still alive? you mean I have to club it? awful.

Ugh, I am just no good at this brutal stuff. These thing bother me. A while ago I cought a small rat, by the tail, in a rat trap. I chased it accross the yard witha shovel trying to smack it down. It was die hard all the way.

Worse, many moons ago I hunted small game for sport. I quit forever the day I wounded a rabbit. When I approached it bleeted like a baby. I did not have a knife so I tried to twist its head off to put it out of its misery. bleet. bleet.

Shocking. I have not hunted since. Just can't do it.

545 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:04:33pm

re: #533 austin_blue

RIP, Mr. Marshall.

Also, Margaret Moth.[Link: www.cnn.com...]

546 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:04:40pm

re: #532 PT Barnum

HEy as long as they keep finding hot babes to wear nearly nothing in public..I'm willing to deal with a little insanity :)

It's too easy. If they had to wear something that was sort of embarrassing and attention-getting and that didn't show off their toned and lithe bodies, I'd be more interested. Something about the "I'M SEX AND AMAZING AND LOOK AT ME AND ALSO PETA", it just sorta bugs me. This goes for either gender. I guess it makes sense, it's all about promoting with the sex-sells angle.

"Okay, super model, to protest this chicken restaurant, we're going to put you in this chicken suit, with wattles, give you a gigantic chicken feather butt and floppy yellow feet you can barely walk in."

"What, you say you want no part of this?"

547 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:05:07pm

re: #536 Altermite

I mean, yes, but chatty guys on the internet aren't uncommon. Especially in comment threads on blogs.

It might not be him, it was just the post after post of

HUH?

What???

that got me curious ;-)

548 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:05:09pm

re: #518 Floral Giraffe

Bucket of water, will speed up the process.

Can't do it. It looked me right in the eye.

549 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:05:09pm

re: #541 Alouette

Ahh, now you're making me feel bad./

550 Altermite  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:05:12pm

re: #541 Alouette

Well, at least they make sure their nekkid protest chicks are hot and not saggy fat Code Pinkistas.

Having porn stars and vegans (lots of fruits+veg=good skin!) in your org will do that for you.

551 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:05:31pm

re: #512 TheMatrix31

Would be nice, but sometimes, people deserve to have the stupid beat out of them.

That's stupid ...

552 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:06:12pm

re: #534 WindUpBird

FUCK YES YES YES YES

I love all Unibroue beers, Maudite and Fin Du Monde are my two favorites :D

I take back all those bad things I said about you. I think. I can't remember right now.

553 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:06:24pm

re: #544 The Shadow Do

Put a board on it, and hit it with the biggest hammer you have.

554 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:06:40pm

re: #550 Altermite

Having porn stars and vegans (lots of fruits+veg=good skin!) in your org will do that for you.

Does that mean that my new diet (doc says I'm on the verge of Type II) of rabbit food will clear up my dry skin?

555 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:06:56pm

Serious question (which I DO actually get to, eventually):

People here frequently fling turds at each other over petty minutia. This is by no means unique to LGF. I'd wager that every website that allows readers to comment experiences a similar phenomenon. I've seen it on forums devoted to sci-fi literature (some of the most heated bitch-fests have to do with whether a particular work is Real Science Fiction or not). I've seen it on forums and mailing lists devoted to extremely esoteric computer-related stuff (read any forum or mailing list pertaining to OpenBSD). I've seen discussions about chili peppers suddenly devolve into apparently serious, murder-threatening arguments over whether Quebec should be part of Canada.

I think that the human species is just generally fucked up.

But I wonder - is spewing this shit on various internet forums a release valve, or is it kindling the crazyfire? I definitely use the internet as a release valve. I spew my dumbest and most useless brainquakes into it. Sometimes I whine and cry about how hard I have it, having been born a white man in the world's richest country. But once I close the last browser tab, I'm over it. I can get all dumbassed-up in a forum thread, but it doesn't carry over offline.

How does this work for others? If you had an Internet Argument that day, do you go to bed still worrying about it? Does a thread full of stuff that you personally find egregious affect you beyond the confines of the thread itself? I can easily understand how someone could be affected in such a way, and I can think of some reasons that it could be valuable - please don't think I'm implying that "letting it go" is better than "hanging onto it".

I'm just curious. If you spend a good couple or three hours trading invective with someone, how does it affect you after you log off?

556 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:06:59pm

re: #548 The Shadow Do

Put it down, Shadow. It will only get worse.

557 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:07:10pm

re: #541 Alouette

Well, at least they make sure their nekkid protest chicks are hot and not saggy fat Code Pinkistas.

The Code Pinkstas are actually real people who really work for their cause at least. The models are more opportunists. You think all those models are really involved at the local level with a cause?

I don't like the notion that pretty => better when it comes to protesting. :/

558 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:07:35pm

re: #546 WindUpBird

PETA is to animal rights what Tea Party death threats are to the GOP

559 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:07:47pm

re: #527 cliffster

I have no idea what that meant, but I like Janis Joplin

When I was a kid..I came home from School and my mom was playing the sheet music to Pearl on the Piano...
She called me over..Listen to this music son...
I sat on the bench next to her as she played Janice's music that warm summer day..I'll never forget her Beaming smile as she shared her joy with me..
Miss ya Mom.. I'll never forget your smile

560 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:07:50pm

re: #550 Altermite

Having porn stars and vegans (lots of fruits+veg=good skin!) in your org will do that for you.

you can be vegan and still eat crap. I live in Portland, we have a lot of vegan food that's bad for you :D

561 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:09pm

This thread is getting really interesting.

I think.

562 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:11pm

re: #555 negativ

Serious question (which I DO actually get to, eventually):

People here frequently fling turds at each other over petty minutia. This is by no means unique to LGF. I'd wager that every website that allows readers to comment experiences a similar phenomenon. I've seen it on forums devoted to sci-fi literature (some of the most heated bitch-fests have to do with whether a particular work is Real Science Fiction or not). I've seen it on forums and mailing lists devoted to extremely esoteric computer-related stuff (read any forum or mailing list pertaining to OpenBSD). I've seen discussions about chili peppers suddenly devolve into apparently serious, murder-threatening arguments over whether Quebec should be part of Canada.

I think that the human species is just generally fucked up.

But I wonder - is spewing this shit on various internet forums a release valve, or is it kindling the crazyfire? I definitely use the internet as a release valve. I spew my dumbest and most useless brainquakes into it. Sometimes I whine and cry about how hard I have it, having been born a white man in the world's richest country. But once I close the last browser tab, I'm over it. I can get all dumbassed-up in a forum thread, but it doesn't carry over offline.

How does this work for others? If you had an Internet Argument that day, do you go to bed still worrying about it? Does a thread full of stuff that you personally find egregious affect you beyond the confines of the thread itself? I can easily understand how someone could be affected in such a way, and I can think of some reasons that it could be valuable - please don't think I'm implying that "letting it go" is better than "hanging onto it".

I'm just curious. If you spend a good couple or three hours trading invective with someone, how does it affect you after you log off?

It depends. I try to avoid invective, but watching the GOP fall apart has been demoralizing for me.

563 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:14pm

re: #555 negativ

It's a release for me.

564 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:14pm

re: #486 WindUpBird

Imagine a world where people won't be "dropped" from their "coverage" because they have "cancer" or their "kids" have a "disease".

I am in favour of having a decent basic level of socialized medicine.

565 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:18pm

re: #557 WindUpBird

The Code Pinkstas are actually real people who really work for their cause at least. The models are more opportunists. You think all those models are really involved at the local level with a cause?

I don't like the notion that pretty => better when it comes to protesting. :/

No but pretty = better when it comes to wearing bikinis or nothing at all :)

Protest? What protest?

566 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:28pm

re: #558 cliffster

PETA is to animal rights what Tea Party death threats are to the GOP

I'd say the Animal Liberation people are more like that, PETA is more like the so-cons

567 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:42pm

re: #542 Dark_Falcon

Godspeed to him. He showcased the talent that defined Rock and Roll and for that we should be grateful.

huh?...a photographer defined rock and roll?....I thought Allan Freed did that...I don't mind credit where it's due tho

568 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:47pm

Well, I'd love to stay and chat about PETA losers, but I'm going to go eat a few animals with my friends. Later.

569 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:08:47pm

re: #528 Racer X

Unibroue Maudite.

8%.

Trader Joe's had 'em on sale. Tasty. Fruity. Hoppy.

Maudite - wonderful. Excellent label art too.

570 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:09:03pm

re: #564 Spare O'Lake

Canadian?

571 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:09:24pm

re: #553 Decatur Deb

Put a board on it, and hit it with the biggest hammer you have.

OK, I'll get back to you on that one.

572 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:09:35pm

re: #550 Altermite

Having porn stars and vegans (lots of fruits+veg=good skin!) in your org will do that for you.

I think wannabee porn actresses see PETA as a talent agency.

573 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:09:41pm

re: #311 Silvergirl

I have sussed nothing about your predilections for British tv, but I will recommend Spaced to you, if you haven't yet seen it.

re: #334 Floral Giraffe

Have you done Ab-Fab yet?
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

It's a scream. The good episodes are REALLY good & the bad ones aren't too bad. It's a little "off" for how I think of your taste, but it's almost Monty Python funny.

Both favorited for future reference.

Whatever one may think about BBC news (Ann Coulter told The Matrix that it's a bad source, which is a good enough recommendation for me), they do some of the best teevee in the world. "House of Cards" alone is worth all the American crime shows put together.

574 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:09:46pm

re: #562 Dark_Falcon

It depends. I try to avoid invective, but watching the GOP fall apart has been demoralizing for me.

You're not the only one. I would like to see a GOP that I could actually vote for occasionally. But until they jettison the socons and theocons, it ain't gonna happen.

575 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:08pm

re: #555 negativ

If we (those of us who are men) were all in the steam room at the gym we'd be comparing penis size.

Not being able to do that, we have to find a way to discover who the alpha male really is.

576 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:12pm

re: #555 negativ

it's sexual in nature

577 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:13pm

re: #562 Dark_Falcon

It depends. I try to avoid invective, but watching the GOP fall apart has been demoralizing for me.

They haven't fallen apart. They have fundamentally embraced Teh Crazee to their breast. Pitiful.

578 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:32pm

re: #573 Cato the Elder

Ever see 'Are you being Served?"

579 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:35pm

re: #555 negativ

I've never had a bitter argument--just a few factual exchanges. The worst off-line effect is finally remembering the brilliant thing I really meant to say.

580 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:46pm

re: #573 Cato the Elder


You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment

581 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:10:46pm

re: #555 negativ

There's been a couple times here I've been genuinely angry after logging off, but for the most part, when I have an internet argument that I am still thinking about after leaving the internets, it isn't here, it's in one of my internet spheres where I know the people personally, have met them in RL, etc.

582 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:11:00pm

The Kitty Olympics

Youtube Video
583 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:11:04pm

re: #570 prairiefire

;D

584 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:11:09pm

re: #572 Alouette

I think wannabee porn actresses see PETA as a talent agency.

ahahaha are there pron actresses who have protested with PETA? :D

585 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:11:20pm

re: #555 negativ

is spewing this shit on various internet forums a release valve, or is it kindling the crazyfire?

Depends. If you are one sort, you are (in a monty python sort of way) satirical, another sort, you are a threat to all we hold dear.

586 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:08pm

re: #575 freetoken

If we (those of us who are men) were all in the steam room at the gym we'd be comparing penis size.

Not being able to do that, we have to find a way to discover who the alpha male really is.

I dunno..I see LGF as the virtual equivalent of all the interesting conversations I ever had in college, but don't get to have anymore because people don't talk about the wide variety of topics we cover here in normal conversation.

Occasionally, you have to say "bullshit" but the good thing is that the person you said bullshit to will be defending something you said in the same or the next thread.

587 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:11pm

re: #481 Decatur Deb

My screen isn't sharp enough to be definitive. All I have on the Y flag is that is is associated with an anti-Jewish attack in LA. Is there any more on it?

Not really, It's pretty obscure from what I can tell.

588 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:16pm

re: #577 austin_blue

They haven't fallen apart. They have fundamentally embraced Teh Crazee to their breast. Pitiful.

I think it's temporary though. There'll be a buckley moment, and they'll get better. It might take a few years.

589 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:33pm

re: #522 Alouette

Well at least she has some cloths on.

590 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:43pm

re: #556 prairiefire

Put it down, Shadow. It will only get worse.

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

591 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:54pm

re: #575 freetoken

If we (those of us who are men) were all in the steam room at the gym we'd be comparing penis size.

Not being able to do that, we have to find a way to discover who the alpha male really is.

espn.com lets people comment on the stories. Some of the stories get thousands of comments. I went through and read some of those comments a couple of times. Wow, people really get impassioned about that call at the end of the third quarter.

592 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:12:58pm

re: #581 WindUpBird

There's been a couple times here I've been genuinely angry after logging off, but for the most part, when I have an internet argument that I am still thinking about after leaving the internets, it isn't here, it's in one of my internet spheres where I know the people personally, have met them in RL, etc.

years ago I had a bizarre dream about Killgore...I still remember parts of it...at that point I never took this stuff serious again

593 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:13:06pm

nom nom nom

594 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:13:21pm

re: #533 austin_blue

Thanks for posting that.

re: #567 albusteve

In photographic terms I think.

595 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:13:24pm

re: #573 Cato the Elder

Visualizes Cato the elder swigging cheap champagne from the bottle, laughing wildly. GRINS.

596 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:13:40pm

re: #582 Racer X

"Get this shit off my neck!"

597 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:13:45pm

re: #593 Racer X

nom nom nom

It's Dr. Zoildberg!

598 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:14:00pm

Professional Hater-For-Jesus Chuck Baldwin has a new essay out titled "Dates That Destroyed America", listing a handful of events and their dates.

First date on list:

April 9, 1865

This is the date when General Robert E. Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia to U.S. Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia.

Newest date on the list:

March 21 and 23, 2010

These are the dates when Congress passed and President Obama signed into law the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act," the so-called "health care reform" bill that we spoke about at the beginning of this column.

What a comparison... equating the HCR act to the surrender of Lee.

Kind of says it all.

599 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:14:07pm

re: #555 negativ

For people who can't let it go, it definitely kindles the crazyfire. Whole stalker blogs have been built by people who can never get the last word in.

600 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:14:17pm

re: #588 WindUpBird

I think it's temporary though. There'll be a buckley moment, and they'll get better. It might take a few years.

They are the Ds in 1968, losing control of their whacks. It gave us Nixon.

601 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:14:27pm

re: #586 PT Barnum

Most of the interesting conversations I had in college involved cock size, masturbation, and the particular odds of being caught with one's pants down (see the above) by the Russians on a particular bluff in Scotland.

Can you elaborate sir?

602 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:14:52pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

Just kill it already. "Born Free". Bleach,. It's gonna die. Easily or the hard way. You have got to make the choice.

603 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:15:09pm

re: #598 freetoken

Professional Hater-For-Jesus Chuck Baldwin has a new essay out titled "Dates That Destroyed America", listing a handful of events and their dates.

First date on list:

What a comparison... equating the HCR act to the surrender of Lee.

Kind of says it all.

I'd be a bit more disturbed that he has Lee's surrender noted as a day that destroyed America.

604 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:15:31pm

re: #588 WindUpBird

I think it's temporary though. There'll be a buckley moment, and they'll get better. It might take a few years.

Frum tried. We'll see where he ends up.

605 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:15:33pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Not by tomorrow morning. Maybe by 2:30 Am Saturday morning, maybe.

606 sngnsgt  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:15:35pm

re: #582 Racer X

LOL! Thanks, I needed that. I'm keeping an eye out at the local pound for a couple of kittens.

607 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:15:36pm

re: #601 Bourdain's Breakfast

Most of the interesting conversations I had in college involved cock size, masturbation, and the particular odds of being caught with one's pants down (see the above) by the Russians on a particular bluff in Scotland.

Can you elaborate sir?

You must have gone to a much less conventional school than I did..Most of my conversations were about Joseph Campbell and things like that...(I was an religion/anthropology major)

608 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:15:43pm

Apple iMac Custom Cover - Victorian Antique Look -Old World Charm

Apple > PC = True

609 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:11pm

re: #603 Van Helsing

To Baldwin and those who think like him, Abe Lincoln is the great destroyer of America.

610 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

I'm right there with you, buddy. I have a story like that. I'll keep it short, because it really bothers me. My neighbor at the apartments I lived at poisoned a possum. I realized this after 2 days of walking by it laying there, not dead, but almost moaning. I had to put it down. Plastic bag, rock, suffering over. It was awful.

611 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:20pm

okay...son wants to be read to. later...

612 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:27pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

Shovel it into the trashcan. Out of sight and all...
Or smash it with the shovel first to be kind.

613 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:30pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

OK Shadow - FREE IT outside.

614 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:45pm

re: #607 PT Barnum

I don't mean conversations, I mean italic}conversations{italic

615 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:16:46pm

re: #577 austin_blue

They haven't fallen apart. They have fundamentally embraced Teh Crazee to their breast. Pitiful.

I know. But they've walked away from the sanity I always associated with Conservatism and it sickens me.

616 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:17:08pm

World's Largest Solar-Powered Boat

Youtube Video
617 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:17:29pm

re: #594 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks for posting that.

re: #567 albusteve

In photographic terms I think.

I jest of course...but I wonder about the term define itself....rock and roll is a real live experience, pictures may color that experience, but to help define it, I don't think so....maybe in the loosest terms

618 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:17:35pm

re: #468 The Shadow Do

You should have that drink or two. Then finish it. Seriously. Or dump baby oil on the trap which will let it go. Before it tries to chew its own limb.

619 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:17:52pm

re: #559 HoosierHoops

That's a great story, Hoops. Thanks

620 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:17:52pm

re: #609 freetoken

To Baldwin and those who think like him, Abe Lincoln is the great destroyer of America.

Not that I'm thrilled with the expansion of the federal government, but that's just plain nuts.

621 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:18:19pm

re: #604 Stanley Sea

I give him getting a prominent roll in the rebuilding of the republican party the same chance i give myself of tripping over Hoffa's grave.

He's turned out to be a stand up guy - and i wish him well, but someone was canned from National Review for HEresy Against Doctrine, it's a really bad time out there.

622 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:18:28pm

re: #607 PT Barnum

You must have gone to a much less conventional school than I did..Most of my conversations were about Joseph Campbell and things like that...(I was an religion/anthropology major)

My weirdest college conversation involved several of us getting very drunk in the college chapel after hours. At some point, one of the other women looked at me and said "Jesus was a Jew y'know."

I said, "Yes, but not one we're especially proud of. Fucking hippie."

She now has a doctorate in Episcopal theology, and keeps threatening to quote me in an upcoming book.

623 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:18:59pm

Goodnight, lizards, and moral conundrums, everywhere.

624 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:19:24pm

re: #609 freetoken

To Baldwin and those who think like him, Abe Lincoln is the great destroyer of America.

Whereas to those of us who watched "Night In The Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian", he is backup for Octavius on a squirrel.

"The Tuskegee Airmen are living in the moment."

625 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:19:28pm

re: #622 SanFranciscoZionist

My weirdest college conversation involved several of us getting very drunk in the college chapel after hours. At some point, one of the other women looked at me and said "Jesus was a Jew y'know."

I said, "Yes, but not one we're especially proud of. Fucking hippie."

She now has a doctorate in Episcopal theology, and keeps threatening to quote me in an upcoming book.

That's fucking awesome.

626 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:19:56pm

re: #620 Van Helsing

Not that I'm thrilled with the expansion of the federal government, but that's just plain nuts.

Neo-Confederates like him usually are. They see the South as right.

627 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:20:38pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

The sooner you kill it, the less it suffers.
You can agonize all you want.
But, it's gonna die.
The easy way, or the hard way.
Are your feelings more important than the critters suffering?
Your call.

628 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:20:42pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

Seriously. Use a shovel if you have one. If it was a human, it would want you to.

629 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:20:54pm

re: #622 SanFranciscoZionist

I honestly don't remember mine - but i don't think it tops one i had the other night somewhere else.

College - bleh. Epic fail on my part.

630 freetoken  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:21:40pm

Hannity and Bachmann attempt to equivocate away the violence:

Youtube Video
631 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:21:48pm

re: #622 SanFranciscoZionist

...snip

I said, "Yes, but not one we're especially proud of. Fucking hippie."

She now has a doctorate in Episcopal theology, and keeps threatening to quote me in an upcoming book.

The low point was Zefferelli's hippie biography of Francis of Assisi. Francis was a lot more like a PTSD'd vet living under a bridge.

632 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:22:31pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

The rat may just chew its legs off to get away. A hammer, or a bucket of water would be far more merciful.

If you can't do something like this, remove the sticky traps and get some live traps.

633 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:22:54pm

re: #613 Stanley Sea

OK Shadow - FREE IT outside.

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

634 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:23:11pm

g'night everyone.

635 Altermite  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:23:28pm

re: #590 The Shadow Do

Can't, I looked at it, eye to eye. I'm thinking "born free", but there ain't no way I'm touching the little dude.

Shit, there will be suffering. I do hope he is in sweet repose by morning.

Put it next to a lit candle, and put a container over it. It will suffocate fairly quickly and painlessly. The candle will suck up all of the oxygen quickly. Ideally, you would have something like ether or a CO2 pump, but not everyone has access to those things.

636 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:23:35pm

I have Madelaines from Costco. Fresh ones. Nom nom nom.
I could turn into a piggy here.
But, I'll stop at three.
Tasty & not too sweet.

637 wee fury  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:23:39pm

re: #632 b_sharp

The rat may just chew its legs off to get away. A hammer, or a bucket of water would be far more merciful.

If you can't do something like this, remove the sticky traps and get some live traps.

I would call animal control.

638 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:24:10pm

re: #630 freetoken

Hannity and Bachmann attempt to equivocate away the violence:


[Video]

New bandwagon: I've had threats and assaults against me, but I didn't publicize them!

Gag.

639 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:24:14pm

re: #633 The Shadow Do

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

You can get pellets that they eat that will kill them. It is like candy to them. They dry up and there is no stink. Talk to a pest control company.

640 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:24:36pm

re: #633 The Shadow Do

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

Yeah, it's Home Depot's fault.
Man up & kill the poor thing.

641 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:24:42pm

re: #633 The Shadow Do

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

Is the pad attached to the floor, or is it on a block of some kind?

(I fucking hate sticky traps.)

642 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:04pm

re: #617 albusteve

Trick is to carry the feeling despite the limitations. That's the hard part. I have tried quite a bit myself, and it's a thrill to capture music into light.

Image: Juke.jpg

I admire anyone who can make a living at it. Darn hard to pull off.

643 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:12pm

re: #640 Floral Giraffe

Yeah, it's Home Depot's fault.
Man up & kill the poor thing.

I promise to never piss you off.
/

644 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:16pm

re: #633 The Shadow Do

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

I feel for you and this TRAUMA.

Listen to the other folks and do the dirty deed.

645 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:42pm

re: #633 The Shadow Do

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

Kiss it, and it will turn into a PETA princess!

646 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:54pm

re: #630 freetoken

re: #630 freetoken

re: #630 freetoken

Hannity and Bachmann attempt to equivocate away the violence:


[Video]

What'd I miss?

Hangonasec...

647 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:56pm

re: #615 Dark_Falcon

I know. But they've walked away from the sanity I always associated with Conservatism and it sickens me.

Understood. It won't change without your voice. I'm all in favor of The Loyal Opposition, who believe in America but have a different philosophy than I, but they have allowed The Fringe to define The Party, just like the D's did in '68.

Welcome to the political Gulag. As stupid a game plan as they could possibly adopt. Frum was exactly spot on, which is why he was exorcised from the AEI.

Truth is no longer tolerated in the Foxosphere.

648 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:57pm

re: #643 Cannadian Club Akbar

I promise to never piss you off.
/

What, you don't like a shovel to the head??
LOL!

649 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:57pm

re: #635 Altermite

Put it next to a lit candle, and put a container over it. It will suffocate fairly quickly and painlessly. The candle will suck up all of the oxygen quickly. Ideally, you would have something like ether or a CO2 pump, but not everyone has access to those things.

This is the best idea yet.

650 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:25:59pm

re: #633 The Shadow Do

His feet are stuck to the sticky pad that Home Depot sold me!

This is the reason why I don't use glue traps, I can't finish the job.

Kill the poor thing already.
BTW, I think the candle in the bucket is a good, humane way.

651 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:26:00pm

re: #628 SanFranciscoZionist

Seriously. Use a shovel if you have one. If it was a human, it would want you to.

had a year old coon in the yard some years back...it was acting funny so we kept the dog away and I watched it decided it was rabid...I went in and got my pistol and walked over to it, but it was rapidly staggering in circles, dodging here and there...so I went back a got my 12ga....0000buck point blank...it was instantaneously vaporized....very humane

652 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:26:10pm

re: #639 Cannadian Club Akbar

You can get pellets that they eat that will kill them. It is like candy to them. They dry up and there is no stink. Talk to a pest control company.


There were pellets next ot the sticky pad. Shit. Taking up the shovel. Gonna go smack the bastard.
PTSD is my friend.

653 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:26:27pm

re: #598 freetoken

Professional Hater-For-Jesus Chuck Baldwin has a new essay out titled "Dates That Destroyed America", listing a handful of events and their dates.

First date on list:

What a comparison... equating the HCR act to the surrender of Lee.

Kind of says it all.

But remember, this is not racist...

It's satire...

No uhmmm... he's serious.

654 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:26:53pm

re: #640 Floral Giraffe

Yeah, it's Home Depot's fault.
Man up & kill the poor thing.

You literally took the words out of my mouth.

655 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:27:12pm

re: #641 SanFranciscoZionist

Is the pad attached to the floor, or is it on a block of some kind?

(I fucking hate sticky traps.)

Sticky traps are a no no, once you've gone through the sticky trap process.

656 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:27:23pm

re: #636 Floral Giraffe

I have Madelaines from Costco. Fresh ones. Nom nom nom.
I could turn into a piggy here.
But, I'll stop at three.
Tasty & not too sweet.

Oh Floral..I miss Costco..We always went to the one in Vallejo,Ca.
Bet there isn't one when we move soon...
Never say Costco again! *wink*

657 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:27:25pm

re: #468 The Shadow Do

OK, this is tough. My wife just went to the garage on her way to work. "OMG something is out here!"
I go out to investigate and sure enough there is a rodent stuck to a sticky pad I had put out months ago - thrashing about until I approach, and then it goes still.
"It's nothing honey"
She drives away, I get a flashlight to see just what is what. There is a smallish roof rat? stuck by its front paws to the pad. Shit. It looked up at me. I feel really rotten. I think I will go have a drink or something. Please die fast Mr. Rat.

Man up. At this point the only honorable thing is a mercy killing. Try a shovel, if you don't own a .22.

You are the one who put out the sticky pad - one of the nastiest ways ever devised for killing pests. Imagine your neighbor who was afraid of burglars put out a human-sized sticky pad and you got caught in it for going over to borrow a cup of flour.

Imagine if he looked down on you with pseudo-pity and then walked away.

Sometimes the animals thrash themselves to death. Sometimes they die of starvation. Sometimes in pure physical terror they gnaw their own paws off in a vain attempt to escape. If the attempt, against all odds, is not vain, they crawl off on what's left of their limbs to die of sepsis.

Do it, and come back and tell us you did. Then never put down those hideous traps again, and maybe I'll talk to you in future.

658 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:27:41pm

re: #652 The Shadow Do

Thank gawd!
Mercy killing is a mercy to the critter.

659 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:28:09pm

re: #654 cliffster

That's kinda scary, for me...

660 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:28:31pm

re: #573 Cato the Elder

Both favorited for future reference.

Whatever one may think about BBC news (Ann Coulter told The Matrix that it's a bad source, which is a good enough recommendation for me), they do some of the best teevee in the world. "House of Cards" alone is worth all the American crime shows put together.

Two words:
Black Adder.

Two more:
Red Dwarf.

Two more:
Flying Circus!

661 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:28:52pm

re: #598 freetoken

Professional Hater-For-Jesus Chuck Baldwin has a new essay out titled "Dates That Destroyed America", listing a handful of events and their dates.

First date on list:

(Robert E. Lee surrenders)

The cessation of military hostilities against the United States now constitutes the destruction of America.

The abject stupidity of that idea is upstaged by the realization that Chuck Baldwin probably, somehow, makes more money than I do.

662 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:28:57pm

re: #651 albusteve

YearoldWhat?

663 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:29:16pm

re: #645 Alouette

Kiss it, and it will turn into a PETA princess!

Babushka, you're not helping...

664 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:29:34pm

re: #657 Cato the Elder

Man up. At this point the only honorable thing is a mercy killing. Try a shovel, if you don't own a .22.

You are the one who put out the sticky pad - one of the nastiest ways ever devised for killing pests. Imagine your neighbor who was afraid of burglars put out a human-sized sticky pad and you got caught in it for going over to borrow a cup of flour.

Imagine if he looked down on you with pseudo-pity and then walked away.

Sometimes the animals thrash themselves to death. Sometimes they die of starvation. Sometimes in pure physical terror they gnaw their own paws off in a vain attempt to escape. If the attempt, against all odds, is not vain, they crawl off on what's left of their limbs to die of sepsis.

Do it, and come back and tell us you did. Then never put down those hideous traps again, and maybe I'll talk to you in future.

Well said in all ways.

It is his duty to kill the little fellow quickly.

665 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:09pm

re: #645 Alouette

Kiss it, and it will turn into a PETA princess!

Well you do have to admit, the lefties get the hottest babes ;)

666 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:14pm

re: #642 Rightwingconspirator

Trick is to carry the feeling despite the limitations. That's the hard part. I have tried quite a bit myself, and it's a thrill to capture music into light.

[Link: 4.bp.blogspot.com...]

I admire anyone who can make a living at it. Darn hard to pull off.

yeah....there is a performance dynamic hard to capture for the most part....not talking airborne metal heads....I've taken hundreds of pictures...some from side stage, etc and I never come up with much, just good pics, but they don't really say anything

667 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:15pm

re: #656 HoosierHoops

Oh Floral..I miss Costco..We always went to the one in Vallejo,Ca.
Bet there isn't one when we move soon...
Never say Costco again! *wink*

If you're NICE to me, I will mail you presents!
You gotta be REALLY nice, though.
I am blessed, that the house I inherited from my Uncle, is really urban, but in a family oriented community.
And, yes, Costco is 1.7 miles from my house.
(The rest of the grocery stores here SUCK, but, Costco is good!)

668 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:18pm

re: #652 The Shadow Do

There were pellets next ot the sticky pad. Shit. Taking up the shovel. Gonna go smack the bastard.
PTSD is my friend.

Be of good strength. I'm so sorry.

669 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:20pm

re: #657 Cato the Elder

Imagine your neighbor who was afraid of burglars put out a human-sized sticky pad and you got caught in it for going over to borrow a cup of flour.

Well said SIR!

670 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:25pm

re: #657 Cato the Elder

Man up. At this point the only honorable thing is a mercy killing. Try a shovel, if you don't own a .22.

You are the one who put out the sticky pad - one of the nastiest ways ever devised for killing pests. Imagine your neighbor who was afraid of burglars put out a human-sized sticky pad and you got caught in it for going over to borrow a cup of flour.

Imagine if he looked down on you with pseudo-pity and then walked away.

Sometimes the animals thrash themselves to death. Sometimes they die of starvation. Sometimes in pure physical terror they gnaw their own paws off in a vain attempt to escape. If the attempt, against all odds, is not vain, they crawl off on what's left of their limbs to die of sepsis.

Do it, and come back and tell us you did. Then never put down those hideous traps again, and maybe I'll talk to you in future.

What is the problem? Just get some work gloves on, pick up the mess, rip the rat off the tape and throw him/her outside. It's just a little rat, not a Shinigami.

671 cliffster  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:30:26pm

re: #657 Cato the Elder

nice work.

672 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:31:01pm

i had to kill a mouse once. Smacked it in the head. It fell over and bllod ran from its nose. I hated that.

673 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:32:01pm

re: #658 Floral Giraffe

Thank gawd!
Mercy killing is a mercy to the critter.

douse it with gas and torch the fucking thing!
jus kidding

674 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:32:23pm

Is the little F'r dead yet???
Geeze, Louise.
Such drama!

675 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:32:25pm

re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bllod=blood, PIMF.

676 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:32:25pm

re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

i had to kill a mouse once. Smacked it in the head. It fell over and bllod ran from its nose. I hated that.

I always wondered why you were banned from Disney World

677 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:32:45pm

re: #665 LudwigVanQuixote

Well you do have to admit, the lefties get the hottest babes ;)

PETA screens their nekkid protestors. The fails go to Code Pink or Spencer Tunick photo shoots.

678 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:32:57pm

re: #670 Walter L. Newton

What is the problem? Just get some work gloves on, pick up the mess, rip the rat off the tape and throw him/her outside. It's just a little rat, not a Shinigami.

Damn, I hope it isn't, or Shadow is toast Shinigami

679 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:33:14pm

re: #538 Van Helsing

Walter Duranty, the New York Times and the Pulitzer Prize committee, all deluded. I agree.

Would you believe I do too?

680 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:33:33pm

re: #664 LudwigVanQuixote

Well said in all ways.

It is his duty to kill the little fellow quickly.

Why is life so ever FREAKING difficult.

Let us gather in a virtual circle and make our positive feelings reach out across whatever cyber allowing but ever loving matter separating gulf that exists between us and heal.

HEAL PEOPLE!

681 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:33:36pm

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

682 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:33:53pm

re: #679 LudwigVanQuixote

Would you believe I do too?

Yes, I would.

683 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:33:58pm

re: #665 LudwigVanQuixote

Well you do have to admit, the lefties get the hottest babes ;)

All graduates of the Bella Abzug/ Helen Thomas School of Beauty!

684 Van Helsing  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:35:29pm

re: #683 sattv4u2

All graduates of the Bella Abzug/ Helen Thomas School of Beauty!

Time for brain bleach, a bit of whiskey, and pray for no nightmares.

685 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:35:31pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

That.Is.Offensive.

686 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:35:34pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

2000 lb car. 6oz rat. No Problem.

687 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:36:11pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

Toss him the keys. Maybe he wants to go to Mickey D's for a CHEESEburger!

688 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:36:21pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

I'm getting too emotionally involved here.

689 wee fury  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:36:44pm

This thread shall be forever more known in the annals of LGF as the 'Tail of the Rat.'

690 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:36:46pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

I will take "this is no joke" as true, and tell you, torturer, to Go To Hell.

691 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:36:52pm

re: #688 Stanley Sea

I'm getting too emotionally involved here.

You trying to get rid of him ,, or date him!?!?

692 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:36:57pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

you're no killer

693 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:37:23pm

re: #686 Decatur Deb

2000 lb car. 6oz rat. No Problem.

ha!

694 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:37:39pm

re: #688 Stanley Sea

I'm getting too emotionally involved here.

Go to a local pet shop and rent a snake!

695 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:37:53pm

My rodent story:

Was working at a fast food place as a kid and there was a metal trap in the corner. Me and another kid were there and we thought we heard something moving inside, so we decided to open it up and see. We picked it up and slowly cracked open the lid, a little bit at a time. Suddenly two tiny paws appear. Then two beady eyes. We screamed like girls and dropped the trap on the ground. I swear 15 mice came flying out of that thing and scattered.

We laughed our asses off.

696 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:38:22pm

re: #692 albusteve

you're no killer

I'm a freakin sissy when it comes to this stuff.

697 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:38:32pm

I had a mouse trap that was a metal box. The mouse went into a small tunnel and when they stepped on a lever it sort of spanked them into a holding chamber. It worked very well and some mornings I had two or three little beady-eyed critters looking at me expectantly. I took them to a field a couple miles away on my way to work and let them run.

I suppose they could have then become home invaders for another household and suffered a grisly death, but their blood was not on my hands.

Now with ants, I get out the Terro. No mercy.

698 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:38:59pm

re: #694 sattv4u2

Go to a local pet shop and rent a snake!


This is like a scene edited out of Very Bad Things.

699 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:39:07pm

re: #683 sattv4u2

All graduates of the Bella Abzug/ Helen Thomas School of Beauty!

Assertion:

Take Sarah Palin and change nothing whatsoever about her except the following:

1) looks like Helen Thomas
2) voice like Susan Estrich

and I guaran-goddamn-tee you her fanbase would shrink by 99.333%

700 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:39:09pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke.

This has now turned into an episode of Faulty Towers. Please accept my apologies for the intense and extended laughter that just erupted here in Arkansas.

701 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:39:09pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

Really?
I have never seen or read Harry Potter...Kids books right?
*wink*
Let's us scrub the code words...*wink*
So chess is like life...You have your team.. It's punch, counter punch the whole game...
You send your guy to the middle of the board..*what up bitches..Here I am..Here I stay*
He sends a guy out..Oh yea..F U
Oh yea..I got a guy covering me..And attacking you..
oh yea?
* At this point it's like an off Broadway play of the West side story*
And then it is on..A war...every human emotion..Every deceit power play..
I've sacrificed the queen knowing I was going to kill the player in 2 moves...Take it Bitch..Take the Queen I will destroy you...Do you play tactically..or Strategically? Do you cower in the face of doom?
Can you change course in the Middle of of Conflict? (Something Bush never got in 2006) Can you bluff your enemy? Can you take his best punch and still stand up in the ring? Do you have memory of past conflicts? Oh shit..I've seen this attack before...Do you have courage? Can you defend against the gates of hell and still protect the king?
Can you finish this war? With power and elegance?
(something Bush 1 never got either)
*Hi Lugwig*

I am sorry I missed that post! It's brilliant. And BTW for sure King's Indian for you :)

702 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:39:17pm

re: #696 The Shadow Do

I'm a freakin sissy when it comes to this stuff.

just let it die then...it's a friggin rat

703 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:39:24pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

Free The Rat!

704 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:40:04pm

re: #700 webevintage

This has now turned into an episode of Faulty Towers. Please accept my apologies for the intense and extended laughter that just erupted here in Arkansas.

It sure ain't funny from where I'm sittin.

705 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:40:25pm

re: #690 Bourdain's Breakfast

I will take "this is no joke" as true, and tell you, torturer, to Go To Hell.

FU.

706 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:02pm

re: #704 The Shadow Do

It sure ain't funny from where I'm sittin.

For real--run over it. It's quick.

707 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:09pm

re: #694 sattv4u2

Go to a local pet shop and rent a snake!

I had pet rats for awhile. No snakes evah.

708 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:11pm

Lost:

Ever FaithFul Rat (Effer)

Grey, Rat sized, well, er, rodent, last seen wearing augmented tail device, Shrieking in agony as strange tall lizard stood over it wondering whether the pain of killing it was to be less than pain of knowing it would die in agony stuck with augmented tail device to side of Taco Bell or pain of telling wife: "Found Rodent, Lied, Let rodent live and 'behind you. aaaaaugh!'

reward: $10.

709 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:30pm

re: #704 The Shadow Do

It sure ain't funny from where I'm sittin.

just be happy it wasn't a family of raccoons.

710 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:39pm

re: #690 Bourdain's Breakfast

C'mom. Spill it.

What was your previous nic?

711 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:43pm

re: #706 Decatur Deb

For real--run over it. It's quick.

use it for a tire chock

712 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:47pm

re: #704 The Shadow Do

It sure ain't funny from where I'm sittin.

I'm sorry, I know.
Like I said, one time with a sticky trap and never again.

713 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:49pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

Did he loose the tail?

Honestly you really should not use those types of traps.

I am not trying to be unsympathetic here. It is not as if rats don't carry disease or that you want them in your house, but honestly, the only humane thing to do is set a trap that kills quickly - that and clean from head to foot so they are not attracted.

I am sorry you had to go through this, and I mean that. Just please don't use a sticky trap again.

714 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:41:56pm

re: #709 Walter L. Newton

just be happy it wasn't a family of raccoons.

or my in-laws

715 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:42:03pm

When I was young and stupider than I am today, I had a friend who got drunk one night and started pissing around with his revolver.

Shot his beloved Husky bitch by accident. In the throat.

I was there.

He immediately walked up to her, helped her lie down on the floor, and shot her again in the head.

Then I had to stop him from shooting himself.

Point being, if you are responsible for injuring a sentient creature beyond hope, you are responsible for putting it out of its misery.

My friend is now a veterinarian.

716 swamprat  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:42:07pm

Despite my best efforts, the thread still got derailed...by yet another rat.

You can't win for trying.

Goodnight.

717 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:42:40pm

re: #667 Floral Giraffe

If you're NICE to me, I will mail you presents!
You gotta be REALLY nice, though.
I am blessed, that the house I inherited from my Uncle, is really urban, but in a family oriented community.
And, yes, Costco is 1.7 miles from my house.
(The rest of the grocery stores here SUCK, but, Costco is good!)

You are the best!
I didn't know if you heard...My move to Singapore has been delayed a year...My company signed an agreement with a State to build and invest on property across the street from a major university.. Winston and I will be visiting family and preparing for another move...Every few years I move..
Look forward to conveying the good news...I'll be emailing Charles going..Dude.. Look where I am posting from..Is that not just totally cool?
Gotta build a new network and live in a college town for a year before heading out of country...
I'll be closer to Home and visiting often..Gawd I miss Napa Valley..
Nikki and I love SD..We should do dinner some night in LA...
Regards

718 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:42:44pm

re: #710 Racer X

C'mom. Spill it.

What was your previous nic?

not Iron Fist for sure

719 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:43:00pm

re: #704 The Shadow Do

Sorry, but I do find it funny. My wife is like you. She can set the trap with no problem, but when she hears it go off or finds a dead mouse in it, BUBBLEAD II! get that thing out of here!

720 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:43:15pm

re: #699 negativ

Assertion:

Take Sarah Palin and change nothing whatsoever about her except the following:

1) looks like Helen Thomas
2) voice like Susan Estrich

and I guaran-goddamn-tee you her fanbase would shrink by 99.333%

She wouldn't get elected Governor of Alaska or Mayor of Wasilla or Miss Alaska or prom queen. She might have had a chance at living a normal life.

721 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:43:53pm

"Officials: Gas Line at Perriello House Was Cut Deliberately"
[Link: www.whsv.com...]

722 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:43:54pm

re: #690 Bourdain's Breakfast

WTF?

723 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:44:02pm

re: #707 Stanley Sea

I had pet rats for awhile. No snakes evah.

We had rats.
Seriously sweet and affectionate pets.
Not like a dog or a cat, but better then a hamster or guinea pig.

724 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:44:12pm

re: #717 HoosierHoops

You are the best!
I didn't know if you heard...My move to Singapore has been delayed a year...My company signed an agreement with a State to build and invest on property across the street from a major university.. Winston and I will be visiting family and preparing for another move...Every few years I move..
Look forward to conveying the good news...I'll be emailing Charles going..Dude.. Look where I am posting from..Is that not just totally cool?
Gotta build a new network and live in a college town for a year before heading out of country...
I'll be closer to Home and visiting often..Gawd I miss Napa Valley..
Nikki and I love SD..We should do dinner some night in LA...
Regards

What BTW is your opinion of Dragon Sicilian?

725 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:44:22pm

re: #719 Bubblehead II

Sorry, but I do find it funny. My wife is like you. She can set the trap with no problem, but when she hears it go off or finds a dead mouse in it, BUBBLEAD II! get that thing out of here!

The funny part of this is imagining a wife actually calling a husband Bubblehead II!

726 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:44:27pm

re: #681 The Shadow Do

Godamn! This is no joke. I just picked up the rat, attached solely by his tail to the glue pad, by a set of barbecue tongs. He was squeeling as I tossed him outside on the lawn. I turned to get the shovel I planned to smack him with when he scrambled away, squeeling, underneath my car parked in the driveway.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

The good news is you are demonstrably not a sociopath.

727 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:44:51pm

re: #725 Silvergirl

The funny part of this is imagining a wife actually calling a husband Bubblehead II!

and him answering to it!

728 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:44:54pm

re: #715 Cato the Elder

omg

729 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:45:02pm

re: #715 Cato the Elder

When I was young and stupider than I am today, I had a friend who got drunk one night and started pissing around with his revolver.

Shot his beloved Husky bitch by accident. In the throat.

I was there.

He immediately walked up to her, helped her lie down on the floor, and shot her again in the head.

Then I had to stop him from shooting himself.

Point being, if you are responsible for injuring a sentient creature beyond hope, you are responsible for putting it out of its misery.

My friend is now a veterinarian.

Damn that is tough stuff.

730 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:45:25pm

re: #721 limewash

"Officials: Gas Line at Perriello House Was Cut Deliberately"
[Link: www.whsv.com...]

as opposed to an accident?....wow, there is some investigative craft

731 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:45:26pm

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

732 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:45:35pm

re: #722 Rightwingconspirator

He's a previously banned poster trying to be clever.

733 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:45:37pm

re: #702 albusteve

just let it die then...it's a friggin rat

Embryonic stem cell harvesting: approve or disapprove?

734 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:14pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

I am sorry about that.

Actually I know for a fact this messed you up. It only means you are a good guy.

735 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:16pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

You'll be in the top 10. Good job.

736 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:20pm

re: #732 Killgore Trout

He's a previously banned poster trying to be clever.

YL?

737 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:23pm

Oh, come off it, This is the Internet, and Internet wrimes with entertain, if you overlook the actual effing meaning of the word rhyme, and, maybe, its spelling. And some punctuation, and the fact that the rhum is gone...

738 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:23pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

the BIG question is how to explain the squished ICKE in the driveway to the wife

739 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:31pm

re: #732 Killgore Trout

Gotcha. Thanks. Not worth the downdings.

740 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:44pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

Don't waste it... take it to work tomorrow for lunch.

741 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:46:52pm

re: #730 albusteve


Uh not sure what you mean. They investigated and it was a deliberate act not it's official.

742 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:07pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

I think you come out pretty even on this one.
The fact that you were concerned for the fear and pain the animal was feeling makes up for anything else.

743 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:20pm

re: #732 Killgore Trout

He's a previously banned poster trying to be clever.

Then why has he/she/it been allowed to stay? Stinky napping !!?

744 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:23pm

re: #723 webevintage

We had rats.
Seriously sweet and affectionate pets.
Not like a dog or a cat, but better then a hamster or guinea pig.

Yep, really sweet. Freaked people out too, side benefit.

745 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:26pm

re: #733 negativ

Embryonic stem cell harvesting: approve or disapprove?

I have no opinion

746 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:31pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

*moment of silence*

747 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:31pm

Er, meant to say it was official that it was deliberate. DOH

748 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:40pm

re: #734 LudwigVanQuixote

I am sorry about that.

Actually I know for a fact this messed you up. It only means you are a good guy.

It did mess me up. Crap.

749 Political Atheist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:42pm

Later folks.

750 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:42pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

FRISBEE RAT!
Geesh, you finally did the deed!
Congratulations.
PLEASE do not use a sticky trap again?
Or, if you do, don't tell us, OK?

751 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:45pm

re: #696 The Shadow Do

I'm a freakin sissy when it comes to this stuff.

((Shadow))

752 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:53pm

re: #696 The Shadow Do

I'm a freakin sissy when it comes to this stuff.

For some of us, killing an animal is very difficult, but at times it is necessary. As a kid I used to kill gophers, mice, and rabbits without a problem. At some point in my life that changed, and now I find it extremely difficult. I've had to put down pets and injured animals when it just tore me up to do so. But I did it.

Sometimes responsibilities can cause pain.

753 Bourdain's Breakfast  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:47:56pm

re:

754 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:48:07pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

in his opinion you are probably dirt

755 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:48:13pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

It does great things for your spiritual karma, sir. See my #715.

Responsibility. It hurts sometimes.

Now, go collect any remaining Wal-Mart sticky traps and throw them away. They are not "a better mousetrap" - they are instruments of torture.

(((Shadow)))

756 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:48:15pm

The End

Youtube Video
757 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:48:57pm

re: #756 Racer X

The End


[Video]

Great song!!

758 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:48:57pm

re: #753 Bourdain's Breakfast

thats the best thing you posted all night

759 brennant  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:48:59pm

re: #700 webevintage

[Manuel]Is no rat, is hamster![/Manuel]

760 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:49:01pm

re: #736 Racer X

Maybe. He certainly was obsessive.

761 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:49:16pm

re: #738 sattv4u2

the BIG question is how to explain the squished ICKE in the driveway to the wife

I parked my car on top of the evidence. I shall clean it up when no one is looking.

762 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:49:19pm

re: #738 sattv4u2

the BIG question is how to explain the squished ICKE in the driveway to the wife

Shovel, flat one. Lift & deposit in trash can. No explanation required.
IF you're lucky!

763 simoom  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:49:56pm

re: #630 freetoken

Hannity and Bachmann attempt to equivocate away the violence:

[Video]

Bachmann also resurrected her "anti-American activities" critique today:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Bachmann also said that her controversial remarks of more than a year ago – in which she called Obama “anti-American” and suggested members of Congress be investigated for “anti-American activities” – have proven prophetic.

“I said I had very serious concerns that Barack Obama had anti-American views,” she said. “And now I look like Nostradamus.”

764 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:49:56pm

re: #741 limewash

Uh not sure what you mean. They investigated and it was a deliberate act not it's official.

those lines are pretty rugged...they don't sever themselves

765 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:50:16pm

re: #752 b_sharp

Owned a boa constrictor for a few years had to kill my mice to feed the snake when the boa was a baby snake. Boy did I feel sick at first but then got use to wacking the mouse against the wall to kill it quick -_-.

My sisters thought I was crazy for owning a snake.

766 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:50:17pm

Epic thread.

767 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:50:21pm

re: #729 LudwigVanQuixote

Damn that is tough stuff.

I know. I loved that sweet dog.

768 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:50:43pm

re: #715 Cato the Elder

Oh God.

769 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:50:47pm

re: #764 albusteve

Ah, gotcha.

770 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:50:58pm

re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

i had to kill a mouse once. Smacked it in the head. It fell over and bllod ran from its nose. I hated that.

Here I come on before retiring at midnight in a short while to see what's up with Health Care and what do I get but how to kill mice.

I will imagine there is a hidden philosophy somewhere, so I will add that I used a glue trap once and had a small mouse on it that I had to drown in the toilet.

I will never use a glue trap again; and I won't vote Republican again for any faces I recognize.

So there!

Thinking of less emotional issues, does anyone care to comment on the principle of "Alternative" votes? Vote for number One, then Number Two. If Number One doesn't win, then Number Two gets your vote for Number One.

The point being that many people will not vote for a "Centrist" candidate because they fear it will be a wasted vote and simply give one to the candidate that they don't want to win.

Other countries use this system, but perhaps it is the only way to break the logjam of "my party or nothing" that we seem to be devolving to.

Of course I rate the chances of that as being much less than that of having a Health Reform bill pass; but what do I know.../

771 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:51:13pm

re: #725 Silvergirl

The funny part of this is imagining a wife actually calling a husband Bubblehead II!

I've been called worse by her. Especially while playing cut throat Uno and slapping her with a draw four, which she then responds with another draw four (now eight) only to get a second one for a total of twelve cards.

B*st*rd is one of the least invectives she has used to describe me (all in a loving way, of course).

772 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:51:41pm

re: #763 simoom

Nostradumus was wrong about nearly everything and lots of morons place credibility in him.

Yep, she made a good comparison.

773 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:51:52pm

re: #701 LudwigVanQuixote

I am sorry I missed that post! It's brilliant. And BTW for sure King's Indian for you :)

In memory of your dear father..I would play a queen's gambit ala Casablanca..
(sic)
What a beautiful player..The simplicity and clean lines of attack..I remember somewhat studying his games when he played and won the championships in Cuba and dozens of books were written about it...But i was like in 7th grade or something

774 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:52:04pm

re: #725 Silvergirl

The funny part of this is imagining a wife actually calling a husband Bubblehead II!

One of my favorite perfume bloggers has four children. A seventeen year old daughter, a fourteen year old daughter, and twins, boy and girl, about seven.

She refers to them in order as Diva, Enigma, Hecate and Buckethead.

775 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:52:18pm

re: #766 Racer X

Epic thread.

Yes, I've been laughing, and grimacing all at the same time.
I really LIKE the idea of Cato the Elder watching Ab Fab.
And then we have the rat stuck to the sticky trap.
COMEDY night, on LGF!

776 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:52:47pm

re: #770 Naso Tang

Ugh, I hate those glue traps, will never use them again because they're terrible. Trying to remove the mouse if while it's alive is worst...limbs get ripped off ugh...

777 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:52:50pm

Friend of mine had a pet skunk. The stink glands had been removed. The thing was a pretty good pet, actually. More affectionate than a cat and not as needy as a dog

ANYWHO,, my friend used to love walking with it down Broadway on a leash. Said friend, while doing this, would have a clothespin on his nose.

The reactions from passersby was PRICELESS

778 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:52:56pm

re: #748 The Shadow Do

It did mess me up. Crap.

Yeah.

I had a fried who set one of those sticky traps out. It caught a mouse who would shriek every time he went into the kitchen.

He begged me to do something about it.

I hated killing the little guy. I felt so sorry for it and it was plainly terrified. But there was no alternative. I whacked it once with a hammer on its head.

My friend though - big tough jock guy, fainted.

Again. I really do feel for you. It only means you have a sense of empathy. this is a good thing.

779 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:53:00pm

re: #731 The Shadow Do

The deed is done. I just backed my car up in the driveway. Sir Rat is now pancaked. Don't know what this does for my Karma.

I'm so sorry. Major major hugs.

You did the right thing.

Go have a drink.

780 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:53:21pm

re: #767 Cato the Elder

I know. I loved that sweet dog.

He's really a vet now? Crazy life.

781 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:54:07pm

re: #736 Racer X

YL?

I think so.

782 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:55:18pm

re: #778 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah.

I had a fried who set one of those sticky traps out. It caught a mouse who would shriek every time he went into the kitchen.

He begged me to do something about it.

I hated killing the little guy. I felt so sorry for it and it was plainly terrified. But there was no alternative. I whacked it once with a hammer on its head.

My friend though - big tough jock guy, fainted.

Again. I really do feel for you. It only means you have a sense of empathy. this is a good thing.

HOLD THE WEDDIN

your friend had a mouse trapped in the kitchen for HOW long!??!? Called you ,, waited till you came over to dispose of it !?!?!

783 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:55:45pm

Good night all, sweet dreams!

784 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:55:46pm

re: #748 The Shadow Do

It did mess me up. Crap.

Sticky traps should be banned on a public mental health basis alone. Like others have said, they're a mistake you only make once. You're far from alone in having gone through this horrible experience. If it helps, in the end you made us proud.

785 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:55:53pm

I've killed a bunch of animals, but I never took a hammer to a mouse....seems a bit excessive

786 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:56:09pm

re: #773 HoosierHoops

In memory of your dear father..I would play a queen's gambit ala Casablanca..
(sic)
What a beautiful player..The simplicity and clean lines of attack..I remember somewhat studying his games when he played and won the championships in Cuba and dozens of books were written about it...But i was like in 7th grade or something

Well thank G-d, Dad is still with us, but if you are going to play Capablanca I will resort to Queen's gambit :)

Though if I am white and I pull Queen's gambit and you go for King's Indian (with the gambit declined) we can see if you can take the center from me :)

787 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:56:30pm

re: #758 sattv4u2

thats the best thing you posted all night

I think the man is hitting the sauce hard.

788 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:56:33pm

re: #782 sattv4u2

HOLD THE WEDDIN

your friend had a mouse trapped in the kitchen for HOW long!??!? Called you ,, waited till you came over to dispose of it !?!?!

pure bullshit

789 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:56:48pm

re: #781 Dark_Falcon

I think so.

It's threads like these that make me fully understand why previously banned posters keep trying to get back in and participate on LGF.

Best damn blog on the web.
PERIOD.

790 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:57:01pm

re: #787 Silvergirl

I think the man is hitting the sauce hard.

I think the sauce is staring to hit back!

791 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:57:05pm

re: #782 sattv4u2

HOLD THE WEDDIN

your friend had a mouse trapped in the kitchen for HOW long!??!? Called you ,, waited till you came over to dispose of it !?!?!

Not quite. It was in there. He did not know what to do. I was coming over to work on QM with him and another friend.

792 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:57:05pm

re: #785 albusteve

I live trapped a noisy mouse in the attic once and took him to paradise: the local burger joint dumpster.

793 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:57:33pm

re: #785 albusteve

lol, I would have to agree. Mice are pretty small so taking a hammer to something about 1-2 inches long seems pretty extreme...

794 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:57:58pm

re: #715 Cato the Elder

When I was young and stupider than I am today, I had a friend who got drunk one night and started pissing around with his revolver.

I wasn't drunk, but years ago started my car in the morning and heard a funny noise. I got out and saw a kitten that had decided to sleep in the car engine somewhere. The fan belt had torn one leg off and I had to find the tire wrench and kill it, and that memory is still with me. It wasn't as easy to do as one might imagine either.

Thanks for nothing for bringing that memory back./

795 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:58:31pm

re: #792 jaunte
The poor thing probably died of overeating!

796 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:58:31pm

re: #788 albusteve

pure bullshit

You really are determined to burn away the good will I have for you, aren't you?

797 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:58:43pm

re: #794 Naso Tang

aaahhh, no sleep for me tonight.

798 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:58:46pm

re: #774 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my favorite perfume bloggers has four children. A seventeen year old daughter, a fourteen year old daughter, and twins, boy and girl, about seven.

She refers to them in order as Diva, Enigma, Hecate and Buckethead.

Why do I think Buckethead is least favored? Could be all wrong, and it's a term of endearment for her most precious.

799 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:58:47pm

re: #793 limewash

lol, I would have to agree. Mice are pretty small so taking a hammer to something about 1-2 inches long seems pretty extreme...

Plus, if you use a sledge hammer, it is like a bloody Gallagher act.

800 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:59:04pm

re: #754 albusteve

in his opinion you are probably dirt

Damn it Steve, you made me laugh.

801 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:59:06pm

re: #794 Naso Tang

I wasn't drunk, but years ago started my car in the morning and heard a funny noise. I got out and saw a kitten that had decided to sleep in the car engine somewhere. The fan belt had torn one leg off and I had to find the tire wrench and kill it, and that memory is still with me. It wasn't as easy to do as one might imagine either.

Thanks for nothing for bringing that memory back./

I had to do the same thing for my first wife.

802 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:59:25pm

re: #792 jaunte

I live trapped a noisy mouse in the attic once and took him to paradise: the local burger joint dumpster.

My mother would leave the trash can out with no bin liner, and a little food in the bottom, mice would get caught in it, and she'd drive them to the woods and let them go be part of the Circle of Life (TM).

One of my high school friends was of the opinion that we were weeding out the dumb mice, and soon we would have a superbreed that would build little airplanes and railways through the house.

803 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 8:59:46pm

re: #778 LudwigVanQuixote

Once upon a time, I lived in a train station that had been converted to apartments. Every floor was single sex. The first floor was mostly office & laundry, but a couple of "boy" apartments. 2nd was ladies, 3rd was guys, 4th was ladies. It was a 4 story building. We had a BAD cockroach problem. Management sprayed one floor at a time. Spray 1, drive them to 2. Etc. We taped the entries to my apartment with double sided tape. Caught a LOT of the bad boys, and decided to start a "zoo" to see how long a roach could live without food or water.
Well, my floor got cleaned up REALLY FAST once the inspectors saw "the zoo". We had roaches last over 2 months with NO food or water.
They will rule the earth, long after the humans are gone!

804 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:04pm

No more kitty and dog mercy killing stories okay?

805 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:08pm

re: #801 Walter L. Newton

I had to do the same thing for my first wife.

You made her sleep under Naso's car hood !?!?!

806 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:09pm

re: #801 Walter L. Newton
Bwahaha!

807 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:15pm

re: #793 limewash

lol, I would have to agree. Mice are pretty small so taking a hammer to something about 1-2 inches long seems pretty extreme...

1-2" more like 4" without the tail.

perhaps a baby mouse or a dwarf mouse but not a mouse from a nice green neighborhood in Baltimore near Union Memorial.

808 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:21pm

re: #798 Silvergirl

Why do I think Buckethead is least favored? Could be all wrong, and it's a term of endearment for her most precious.

I think it's just that he's the only boy.

809 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:32pm

re: #792 jaunte

I live trapped a noisy mouse in the attic once and took him to paradise: the local burger joint dumpster.

not two weeks ago I had a mouse that I had to deal with...just about the time I was looking for a trap I heard it rummaging around in the garbage having a good time...I closed the lid and tossed it into the herby curby the next morning...a weak, inhumane act of cowardice!....hahaha!....maybe I should have pulled it out and hit it with a hammer

810 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:00:53pm

re: #796 LudwigVanQuixote

You really are determined to burn away the good will I have for you, aren't you?

apologize

811 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:01:02pm

re: #771 Bubblehead II

I've been called worse by her. Especially while playing cut throat Uno and slapping her with a draw four, which she then responds with another draw four (now eight) only to get a second one for a total of twelve cards.

B*st*rd is one of the least invectives she has used to describe me (all in a loving way, of course).

Uno! I'm always the one caught with a load of cards. I've been asked, "Need a filing cabinet?" That's when I throw the cards.

812 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:01:11pm

re: #794 Naso Tang

I wasn't drunk, but years ago started my car in the morning and heard a funny noise. I got out and saw a kitten that had decided to sleep in the car engine somewhere. The fan belt had torn one leg off and I had to find the tire wrench and kill it, and that memory is still with me. It wasn't as easy to do as one might imagine either.

Thanks for nothing for bringing that memory back./

Dear Lord I am so sorry.

813 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:01:27pm

re: #809 albusteve

not two weeks ago I had a mouse that I had to deal with...just about the time I was looking for a trap I heard it rummaging around in the garbage having a good time...I closed the lid and tossed it into the herby curby the next morning...a weak, inhumane act of cowardice!...hahaha!...maybe I should have pulled it out and hit it with a hammer

That ,, or Walters 3rd wife

Hell , she's used to it!

814 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:01:40pm

re: #801 Walter L. Newton

I had to do the same thing for my first wife.

She had a thing for hot engines?

815 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:01:55pm

re: #768 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh God.

I know.

Her name was Antigone - Tiggy for short - and he adored her.

Went he drunkenly pulled the trigger and the shot went off, she yelped in a way I cannot describe nor ever forget. She looked at him, then at me, and then he did what he had to.

She was always afraid of guns. He tried to train her to tolerate them when she was a young dog and it scared the the piss out of her.

I'm crying again just remembering it all.

816 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:02:23pm

re: #812 LudwigVanQuixote

Dear Lord I am so sorry.

Thought you were an atheist :)

817 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:02:44pm

re: #773 HoosierHoops

In memory of your dear father..I would play a queen's gambit ala Casablanca..
(sic)
What a beautiful player..The simplicity and clean lines of attack..I remember somewhat studying his games when he played and won the championships in Cuba and dozens of books were written about it...But i was like in 7th grade or something

My favorite among the classic chess masters has always been Morphy.

818 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:02:55pm

re: #815 Cato the Elder

I know.

Her name was Antigone - Tiggy for short - and he adored her.

Went he drunkenly pulled the trigger and the shot went off, she yelped in a way I cannot describe nor ever forget. She looked at him, then at me, and then he did what he had to.

She was always afraid of guns. He tried to train her to tolerate them when she was a young dog and it scared the the piss out of her.

I'm crying again just remembering it all.

well I could go on about gun safety, but that is a sad tale regardless

819 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:10pm

re: #815 Cato the Elder

Me too, a little. Crying, I mean.

820 jaunte  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:12pm

re: #798 Silvergirl

Why do I think Buckethead is least favored? Could be all wrong, and it's a term of endearment for her most precious.

It may be a pattern is emerging. Bubblehead, Buckethead... my own at home nickname is Shithead, said in an endearing way...

821 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:17pm

re: #815 Cato the Elder

Your friend is paying penance his whole life. That is such a terrible story, for all.

822 limewash  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:18pm

re: #807 LudwigVanQuixote

Too Funny, I guess in Bellingham, Washington mice are like the country mice, only about 1"-2" w/o tail.

823 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #803 Floral Giraffe

What was that Jan M Vincent movie that had the man eating roaches that swarmed out of the car seat?

824 webevintage  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:42pm

re: #798 Silvergirl

Why do I think Buckethead is least favored? Could be all wrong, and it's a term of endearment for her most precious.

When my son was 3 we went to the St. Louis Zoo and the kids meal at the diner came in this plastic bucket.
He slowly and carefully took his food out and placed the bucket on his his and started to eat his fires.

Buckethead

He's 18 and I still call him buckethead sometimes.

825 wee fury  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:03:53pm

Mice will build their nests in your garden. They will have baby mice . . . which will sometimes run over your bare feet when you are weeding.

826 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:04:00pm

re: #806 pingjockey

I'm so glad to see you back on LGF. ((PJ))
And, no, I'm not stalking. I don't think!

827 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:04:02pm

re: #805 sattv4u2

You made her sleep under Naso's car hood !?!?!

Not the hood. Shush.

828 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #724 LudwigVanQuixote

What BTW is your opinion of Dragon Sicilian?

My mentor loved it.. You see..It's just like the beautiful Russian fluid office and defense...Control the Flanks.. Tie up the middle.. I just love fucking with people posting a Knight on King 5..And using the long Diagonal with a bishop..
You got to keep them thinking about the middle war and getting ready to kick butt on the flank...
It is so complex..That the only way I'd play it with friends is if some kid who has never played before wanted to play..Sure kid..Check this shit out...Otherwise I would always hold back on that...
I'm pretty much Ray Lopez with White first game..I'll know where you are coming from in about 10-15 moves..Who you are..Unless you are really good..
In fact..I'll play you blindfolded for 10 moves...I'll know your chess soul in 7 moves...
*wink*

829 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:04:22pm

re: #815 Cato the Elder

I know.

Her name was Antigone - Tiggy for short -
[snip]

How do you get "Tiggy" from An - ti - gone?

830 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:04:44pm

I have a happy animal/engine story... My brother was driving home from work a few years ago, down I-5 no less at 70mph. Anyway he kept hearing meows. He got home and there was a kitten that had ridden over 10 miles from his work to home sitting up on the spare tire under the bed of the pickup. So he ended up with a cat named...wait for it...Spare.

831 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:16pm

'Nite, all.

832 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:21pm

re: #803 Floral Giraffe

Once upon a time, I lived in a train station that had been converted to apartments. Every floor was single sex. The first floor was mostly office & laundry, but a couple of "boy" apartments. 2nd was ladies, 3rd was guys, 4th was ladies. It was a 4 story building. We had a BAD cockroach problem. Management sprayed one floor at a time. Spray 1, drive them to 2. Etc. We taped the entries to my apartment with double sided tape. Caught a LOT of the bad boys, and decided to start a "zoo" to see how long a roach could live without food or water.
Well, my floor got cleaned up REALLY FAST once the inspectors saw "the zoo". We had roaches last over 2 months with NO food or water.
They will rule the earth, long after the humans are gone!

LOL...

Back when I was a wee freshman in the Alumni Memorial Residences at JHU, we had a big, and I mean Baltimore - whatchu lookin at suckah - BIG roach go striding along the wall of the hallway. It was about 4-41/2" without the feelers.

One of the intrepid roach hunters went to his room and got an aerosol can and a lighter, determined to flambe the roach.

Well as he snuck up on it - he discovered it had wings. It bounced off his head, and the guy went screaming down the hall like a total sissy.

The roach, unperturbed continued in the opposite direction.

833 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:22pm

re: #825 wee fury

Mice will build their nests in your garden. They will have baby mice . . . which will sometimes run over your bare feet when you are weeding.

An outdoor cat can solve that problem. See here.

834 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:40pm

re: #810 albusteve

apologize

For what?

835 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:42pm

re: #830 pingjockey

I have a happy animal/engine story... My brother was driving home from work a few years ago, down I-5 no less at 70mph. Anyway he kept hearing meows. He got home and there was a kitten that had ridden over 10 miles from his work to home sitting up on the spare tire under the bed of the pickup. So he ended up with a cat named...wait for it...Spare.

Good thing he didn't hit a bump, or the cat would have been named,,, wait for it ,,, Flat

836 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:43pm

re: #823 Bubblehead II
Damnation Alley.

837 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:05:45pm

re: #780 Stanley Sea

He's really a vet now? Crazy life.

Call it penance. He has more than made up for it in the sentient beings' lives he has saved. But that is the story.

838 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:06:18pm

re: #815 Cato the Elder

Be well, oh ancient one!
*smooch*

839 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:06:19pm

re: #824 webevintage

When my son was 3 we went to the St. Louis Zoo and the kids meal at the diner came in this plastic bucket.
He slowly and carefully took his food out and placed the bucket on his his and started to eat his fires.

Buckethead

He's 18 and I still call him buckethead sometimes.

Aww. I love it. A playful act, a small moment in time, lasting for years through the name Buckethead. Poor kid. :-)

840 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:06:21pm

re: #823 Bubblehead II

What was that Jan M Vincent movie that had the man eating roaches that swarmed out of the car seat?

Papillon ate roaches in the movie

841 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:06:29pm

re: #826 Floral Giraffe
Howdy, and thanks. And no you're not stalking.

842 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:06:56pm

re: #832 LudwigVanQuixote

LOL...

Back when I was a wee freshman in the Alumni Memorial Residences at JHU, we had a big, and I mean Baltimore - whatchu lookin at suckah - BIG roach go striding along the wall of the hallway. It was about 4-41/2" without the feelers.

One of the intrepid roach hunters went to his room and got an aerosol can and a lighter, determined to flambe the roach.

Well as he snuck up on it - he discovered it had wings. It bounced off his head, and the guy went screaming down the hall like a total sissy.

The roach, unperturbed continued in the opposite direction.

There was an elderly Chinese man in the building I grew up in, who flatly refused to let the cockroach-spraying people in. He trapped them himself, in these elaborate little bamboo traps. Kept records too. Thought the Rose Man stuff was poison, and wouldn't have it in his apartment.

843 wee fury  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:07:11pm

re: #833 Dark_Falcon

An outdoor cat can solve that problem. See here.

It is important for cats to remain indoors at all times.

844 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:07:15pm

re: #835 sattv4u2
Heh.

845 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:08:06pm

re: #816 Naso Tang

Thought you were an atheist :)

Now that is funny.

846 Racer X  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:08:21pm

I'm out like Shadow's Rat.

Nite everyone.

847 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:08:46pm

re: #833 Dark_Falcon

An outdoor cat can solve that problem. See here.

See here!

Cruel, cruel Falcon.

848 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:08:58pm

re: #752 b_sharp

Yep. When I was 11 or so, one of my grandmother's friends had some cattle. The land on which the cattle lived became (or might have previously been, who knows) a thriving prairie dog town. Apparently, cows are dumb as hell, and routinely break their ankles by stepping in prairie dog holes. This was no good for the cattle owner, so it was decided that I, being the budding marksman that I was, should go out to the place on the weekend and shoot prairie dogs.

I was quite the expert, too. I had a Marlin Model 60 rifle (note: that is the king of all .22LR rifles - Ruger 10/22s can go to hell) and using iron sights only, I got to where I could hit those mofo's from as far away as I could see them. I killed prairie dogs by the hundreds, and got a great deal of enjoyment out of it.

THESE days, I couldn't do it. I don't know exactly what's different. Maybe just "life experience" and understanding mortality and all that stuff. Or, maybe just a bunch of nonsense. I do not regret in the least my aforementioned prairie dog genocide. I have no guilt or sorrow for the legions of rodents I killed. In fact, those times are some of my fondest memories because they include my dad and my grandmother before everything went to shit. But I just couldn't do it now.

I don't have any kids (THANK F-ING CHRIST), but if I did, I would buy them a Marlin Model 60 as soon as they were big enough to handle it. You should do the same.

849 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:09:11pm

re: #843 wee fury

It is important for cats to remain indoors at all times.

Why? I see no problem with letting your cat patrol a backyard garden.

850 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:09:22pm

Awesome game 86-84 K State, Xavier.

851 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:09:34pm

re: #815 Cato the Elder

I know.

Her name was Antigone - Tiggy for short - and he adored her.

Went he drunkenly pulled the trigger and the shot went off, she yelped in a way I cannot describe nor ever forget. She looked at him, then at me, and then he did what he had to.

She was always afraid of guns. He tried to train her to tolerate them when she was a young dog and it scared the the piss out of her.

I'm crying again just remembering it all.

Dude there is only one possible solution for this.

Watch this video.

Youtube Video
852 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:09:56pm

re: #850 The Shadow Do

Awesome game 86-84 K State, Xavier.

rats - 0

853 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:10:14pm

re: #832 LudwigVanQuixote

We had glass jars, and lids to catch them.
My other very funny is my friend Barbara, who would come over to watch the teevee, which was usually on the animal channel. She'd walk in, look at the animals on the TV & ask "so what's fucking on TV tonight"? You just will NOT look at animal shows in the same way, ever again!

854 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:10:19pm

re: #834 LudwigVanQuixote

For what?

calling me an evil person with no regard for human life...and that I should live in North Korea with people of my ilk since I'm no better than them

855 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:10:21pm

re: #847 Silvergirl

See here!

Cruel, cruel Falcon.

I didn't do anything. And the cat isn't being cruel, he's just doing what he does. He kills and eats mice.

856 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:10:30pm

re: #842 SanFranciscoZionist
Lived in San Diego 14 of the 20 years I was in the navy. Finding a place without roaches was tough. The funniest roach thing I ever saw was in Cocoa Beach Fla. one of the local bars had "Palmetto" bug races. Just a big frakkin' cockroach.

857 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:10:54pm

re: #803 Floral Giraffe

Were they the little suckers, up to a half inch, no more? Come out in the daytime?

If so they are called German Roaches and they are nasty suckers. Hard to eradicate and the people they come in with carry them along to wherever they move. They love small spaces, like TVs, children's toys, anything valuable that people take with them. Of course I mean certain types of people and in apartments they they find new hosts easily.

858 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:10:54pm

re: #850 The Shadow Do

Awesome game 86-84 K State, Xavier.

3 pointer to tie with 8 seconds left

double OT

859 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:11:02pm

re: #840 albusteve

Papillon ate roaches in the movie

"Hey you bastards, I'm still here."

I loved the Papillon movie. And book.

860 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:11:15pm

OOOooh! A three for Xavier. Overtime!

861 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:11:40pm

re: #843 wee fury

It is important for cats to remain indoors at all times.

that's flat out animal abuse...you must be joking

862 wee fury  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:11:44pm

re: #849 Dark_Falcon

Why? I see no problem with letting your cat patrol a backyard garden.

Bad things can happen to an outside cat.

863 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:11:57pm

re: #855 Dark_Falcon

I didn't do anything. And the cat isn't being cruel, he's just doing what he does. He kills and eats mice.

One of our cats is a mouser, and he loves to bring the mice (and other critters) into the house and play with them, before tearing them apart any leaving body parts around the house, like he's trying to show us how good he is.

864 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:12:02pm

re: #828 HoosierHoops

My mentor loved it.. You see..It's just like the beautiful Russian fluid office and defense...Control the Flanks.. Tie up the middle.. I just love fucking with people posting a Knight on King 5..And using the long Diagonal with a bishop..
You got to keep them thinking about the middle war and getting ready to kick butt on the flank...
It is so complex..That the only way I'd play it with friends is if some kid who has never played before wanted to play..Sure kid..Check this shit out...Otherwise I would always hold back on that...
I'm pretty much Ray Lopez with White first game..I'll know where you are coming from in about 10-15 moves..Who you are..Unless you are really good..
In fact..I'll play you blindfolded for 10 moves...I'll know your chess soul in 7 moves...
*wink*

;) We would clearly have a delightful game - or ten.

865 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:12:26pm

re: #855 Dark_Falcon

I didn't do anything. And the cat isn't being cruel, he's just doing what he does. He kills and eats mice.

All in good fun, kid.

866 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:12:35pm

G'nite folks!

867 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:12:38pm

re: #786 LudwigVanQuixote

Well thank G-d, Dad is still with us, but if you are going to play Capablanca I will resort to Queen's gambit :)

Though if I am white and I pull Queen's gambit and you go for King's Indian (with the gambit declined) we can see if you can take the center from me :)

You don't wanna play a Queens side game with me.. It's a wide open game...
I wave won a tournament game playing a collie string queenside attack (a hundred year old bishop sacrifice I found in a book ) against some punk ass 12 year old with pimples at the Napa Chess Club...I'm like in your face punk!
*wink*

868 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:12:49pm

re: #854 albusteve

calling me an evil person with no regard for human life...and that I should live in North Korea with people of my ilk since I'm no better than them

Ohh are you ready to admit that torture is wrong?

If not, and you justify it for us, then you must also justify it for the Norks.

869 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:13:38pm

re: #840 albusteve

Papillon ate roaches in the movie

And speaking of Steve McQueen, new photos from Life Magazine!

870 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:13:56pm

re: #868 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh are you ready to admit that torture is wrong?

If not, and you justify it for us, then you must also justify it for the Norks.

well ,, there goes the nice friendly banter this thread had going!
{sigh}

Oh ,,, look ,,,,, I have to go ,, do ,,, ANYTHING!!

871 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:14:04pm

Good night, Dear Lizards.
Watch out for them sticky traps.

872 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:14:25pm

re: #867 HoosierHoops

You don't wanna play a Queens side game with me.. It's a wide open game...
I wave won a tournament game playing a collie string queenside attack (a hundred year old bishop sacrifice I found in a book ) against some punk ass 12 year old with pimples at the Napa Chess Club...I'm like in your face punk!
*wink*

Ummm you do realize that I beat my beloved Capablanca loving master Dad for the first time with queen's gambit?

Bring it :)

But like I said for you, I will turtle up and play Kings Indian.

873 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:14:46pm

re: #871 Floral Giraffe

Good night, Dear Lizards.
Watch out for them sticky traps.

Literally and figuratively.

874 albusteve  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:14:47pm

re: #859 Silvergirl

"Hey you bastards, I'm still here."

I loved the Papillon movie. And book.

I was there when they filmed the prison scenes in Jamaica...the movie generated a huge buzz around the area...I went up there to try and be an extra...I was with a few airline stewardesses and they got the parts...lots of fun

875 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:15:11pm

re: #869 Silvergirl

And speaking of Steve McQueen, new photos from Life Magazine!

One of my all time favorite actors

876 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:15:15pm

re: #870 sattv4u2

well ,, there goes the nice friendly banter this thread had going!
{sigh}

Oh ,,, look ,,, I have to go ,, do ,,, ANYTHING!!

Flounce?

877 The Shadow Do  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:16:41pm

re: #867 HoosierHoops

You don't wanna play a Queens side game with me.. It's a wide open game...
I wave won a tournament game playing a collie string queenside attack (a hundred year old bishop sacrifice I found in a book ) against some punk ass 12 year old with pimples at the Napa Chess Club...I'm like in your face punk!
*wink*

Shit, what's the game. Take you at canasta?

878 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:17:57pm

re: #868 LudwigVanQuixote


If not, and you justify it for us, then you must also justify it for the Norks.

I'd like to torture the little chubby dear leader, just to find where the nukes are and I bet he would squeal at the first sight of a "board" and I wouldn't have to do what I would like to do. Does that make me a bad person?

879 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:20:53pm

re: #862 wee fury

Bad things can happen to an outside cat.

Including, as I posted on an earlier thread, getting into a cat-fight with another male cat in the neighborhood - and then seeing your mistress brought up on criminal charges for "harboring a dangerous animal".

Happening right now to a friend of mine in Kalamazoo.

Hmm. Two outdoor male cats fighting. This is a case for Superman the city attorney.

My friend, a professor of anthropology, faces three months in the slammer or a $500 fine and a criminal record for "harboring" an eight-year-old cat with spunk.

This country has lost its mind.

880 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:21:47pm

re: #869 Silvergirl

And speaking of Steve McQueen, new photos from Life Magazine!

One of my all time favorite actors

881 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:22:50pm

Gota go. Goodnight.

882 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:23:16pm

re: #876 Walter L. Newton

Flounce?

Was that your 1st wifes name ,, the one you hit in the head with a hammer for sleeping on Nasos engine!?!?!

883 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:24:18pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

Including, as I posted on an earlier thread, getting into a cat-fight with another male cat in the neighborhood - and then seeing your mistress brought up on criminal charges for "harboring a dangerous animal".

Happening right now to a friend of mine in Kalamazoo.

Hmm. Two outdoor male cats fighting. This is a case for Superman the city attorney.

My friend, a professor of anthropology, faces three months in the slammer or a $500 fine and a criminal record for "harboring" an eight-year-old cat with spunk.

This country has lost its mind.

That's just plain nuts. Two cats fighting is not "harboring a dangerous animal".

884 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:24:27pm

re: #836 pingjockey

Damnation Alley.

Thanks. Beware of the man eating roaches

New Thread BTW ------->

885 wee fury  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:26:51pm

re: #849 Dark_Falcon

Why? I see no problem with letting your cat patrol a backyard garden.

Eagles, Fox, Coyote, Automobiles, other cats (could carry feline leukemia). Many animal shelters will not adopt a cat/kitten to people who will not keep their adoptees indoors at all times.

886 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:27:53pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

Including, as I posted on an earlier thread, getting into a cat-fight with another male cat in the neighborhood - and then seeing your mistress brought up on criminal charges for "harboring a dangerous animal".

Happening right now to a friend of mine in Kalamazoo.

Hmm. Two outdoor male cats fighting. This is a case for Superman the city attorney.

My friend, a professor of anthropology, faces three months in the slammer or a $500 fine and a criminal record for "harboring" an eight-year-old cat with spunk.

This country has lost its mind.

I can not imagine a good attorney not being able to get this tossed out on the straight face rule.

887 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:29:07pm

re: #863 Walter L. Newton

One of our cats is a mouser, and he loves to bring the mice (and other critters) into the house and play with them, before tearing them apart any leaving body parts around the house, like he's trying to show us how good he is.

Haku is a ratter. He doesn't waste any time on show, but once or twice I've witnessed the kill. Takes five seconds, without a wasted movement.

He's almost seven years old and still faster than any rat. If I could get a pelt premium from the city, I could afford to pay my water bill.

The Jindo was bred in Korea to hunt big game in packs. Deer, especially, but they'll do bears, too. Traditional Korean hunting involves no guns; it's the dog and the master against the game.

Once the quarry is laid, the pack guards it until one dog comes back and finds the master and leads him to the kill.

Haku, as you know, is the gentlest, most friendly dog in the world. So far no one has ever threatened me in his presence. I don't want to borrow trouble, but I'd kinda like to see what he would turn into if someone ever did.

888 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:32:24pm

re: #851 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude there is only one possible solution for this.

Watch this video.

Thank you. I needed that.

(((LVQ)))

889 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:33:53pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

Lawrence said that in his eight years with animal services he’s never pursued a dangerous animal matter involving a cat. He described the case against Hill as “unusual.”

“I guess when I look at charging an animal as a dangerous animal ... I tend to look at things as how is it a danger to the community, to the people,” he said. “I’ve never heard of a cat, if it’s not rabid, just turning on a human ... To me, the overriding problem here is (Hill’s) cat running at-large.”

Both cats were left out. Shit happens, doesn't make it criminal. I hope the judge slaps the city attorney hard for wasting the court's time.

890 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:34:50pm

re: #885 wee fury

Eagles, Fox, Coyote, Automobiles, other cats (could carry feline leukemia). Many animal shelters will not adopt a cat/kitten to people who will not keep their adoptees indoors at all times.

I understand their position, but do not agree with it fully. That said; their shelter, their rules.

891 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:41:56pm

re: #879 Cato the Elder

I'd say they have. Cat fights are a regular occurrence in my park
.
Between the domesticated and feral cats, we have a definite population problem. I have been given permission to live trap cats in our park.

All residents have been advised to put a collar and tag/ name and number on their cats. Un-tagged cats get taken to the shelter by the manager.

892 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:43:53pm

re: #887 Cato the Elder

Haku is a ratter. He doesn't waste any time on show, but once or twice I've witnessed the kill. Takes five seconds, without a wasted movement.

He's almost seven years old and still faster than any rat. If I could get a pelt premium from the city, I could afford to pay my water bill.

The Jindo was bred in Korea to hunt big game in packs. Deer, especially, but they'll do bears, too. Traditional Korean hunting involves no guns; it's the dog and the master against the game.

Once the quarry is laid, the pack guards it until one dog comes back and finds the master and leads him to the kill.

Haku, as you know, is the gentlest, most friendly dog in the world. So far no one has ever threatened me in his presence. I don't want to borrow trouble, but I'd kinda like to see what he would turn into if someone ever did.

Youtube Video
893 ryannon  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 6:20:04am

re: #354 TheMatrix31

I might beat the living shit out of the next person I see on campus wearing a Che shirt.

You should tar and feather them. It's been discussed at length in an earlier thread and seems to be pretty effective.

Or if they have family, leave a coffin on their lawn or sever a propane line.

It's time to take back our campuses from the Socialists.

894 Charles Johnson  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:22:23am

re: #354 TheMatrix31

If you ever leave another message like this at LGF, your account will be history. This is going to be the only warning you get.

895 ckb  Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:39:31am

Charles,

I'm assuming someone hasn't pointed this out already - that this copy of Frankenstein is not the original 1945 edition. It's a later edition from the late 60's or early 70's.

Classics were reprinted in different editions for 40 years and there are dozens of printings of some, many with different covers or different art.

I'm sure this is a lated edition because of the $0.15 cover price. The 1945 edition would have had a $0.10 cover price. The cover paper stock and size of the book were different in 1945 as well.

The way to tell what edition you have is to find the re-order page. It can be on the back cover or in the book. This lists all the books CI was selling when this was printed, and the edition is usually referred to as the latest edition available. You'll probably find that this was sold when CI 142 (or in that area) was the latest available. This is all explained in detail on the Overstreet guide.

896 Charles Johnson  Sat, Mar 27, 2010 5:11:07pm

re: #895 ckb

Charles,

I'm assuming someone hasn't pointed this out already - that this copy of Frankenstein is not the original 1945 edition. It's a later edition from the late 60's or early 70's.

Classics were reprinted in different editions for 40 years and there are dozens of printings of some, many with different covers or different art.

I'm sure this is a lated edition because of the $0.15 cover price. The 1945 edition would have had a $0.10 cover price. The cover paper stock and size of the book were different in 1945 as well.

The way to tell what edition you have is to find the re-order page. It can be on the back cover or in the book. This lists all the books CI was selling when this was printed, and the edition is usually referred to as the latest edition available. You'll probably find that this was sold when CI 142 (or in that area) was the latest available. This is all explained in detail on the Overstreet guide.

Ah! Thank you for the info. I was wondering about that, but couldn't find that info in the Overstreet guide. (It's not the best-organized book...)


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