CPAC 2011, Day 2

The place is lousy with creationists
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C-SPAN has a live video feed from CPAC; today’s schedule includes creationist Republican Tim Pawlenty at 3 pm Eastern, followed by creationist libertarian Ron Paul at 3:30. At 4 pm, creationist Republican Rick Perry will speak, followed by creationist libertarian Herman Cain at 4:30.

Also at 3 pm, anti-Muslim bloggers Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller will be hosting an “unofficial CPAC event,” a preview of their cheesy new propaganda film:

The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11 Attacks – Maryland Ballroom Sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (1.5 hours) Speakers: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, 9/11 Family Members, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and Daisy Khan (invited), plus a special screening of a trailer for the new AFDI documentary, The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11 Attacks

And again, they show their complete lack of class; after waging a year-long campaign of hate speech and incitement against them, Spencer and Geller list Imam Rauf and his wife Daisy Khan as “(invited).”

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490 comments
1 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:26:24am

OK, I just started watching and already within 4 seconds there was mention of Ronald Reagan. Again.

2 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:26:50am

andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

“Parents should be warned and frankly the authorities at CPAC should be told that there are minor age students who need to be looked after and protected. Have the Radical Homosexuals really infiltrated that deeply into what used to be a pro-family movement? Has the leadership of CPAC gone so far as to actually not read anything or think it’s just “political opinion” propagated by old fashioned and outdated leaders that adult homosexual predators exist? Well, they DO exist and they are taking advantage of the alcohol parties at CPAC to poison the minds and pollute the bodies of young conservatives who are still too naïve to know what is being done to them,” - Eugene Delgaudio, President of the Public Advocate of the U.S., warning about GOProud in a fundraising email.

hide yo kids. the gays are at cpac. /

3 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:28:52am

Here we go. Orrin Hatch has his wingnut hat on.

4 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:29:45am

re: #2 zora

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com…]

“Parents should be warned and frankly the authorities at CPAC should be told that there are minor age students who need to be looked after and protected. Have the Radical Homosexuals really infiltrated that deeply into what used to be a pro-family movement? Has the leadership of CPAC gone so far as to actually not read anything or think it’s just “political opinion” propagated by old fashioned and outdated leaders that adult homosexual predators exist? Well, they DO exist and they are taking advantage of the alcohol parties at CPAC to poison the minds and pollute the bodies of young conservatives who are still too naïve to know what is being done to them,” - Eugene Delgaudio, President of the Public Advocate of the U.S., warning about GOProud in a fundraising email.

hide yo kids. the gays are at cpac. /

What are the “minor age students” doing at the “alcohol parties”? I submit that alcohol is much more dangerous than gay people.

5 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:30:14am

re: #2 zora

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com…]

“Parents should be warned and frankly the authorities at CPAC should be told that there are minor age students who need to be looked after and protected. Have the Radical Homosexuals really infiltrated that deeply into what used to be a pro-family movement? Has the leadership of CPAC gone so far as to actually not read anything or think it’s just “political opinion” propagated by old fashioned and outdated leaders that adult homosexual predators exist? Well, they DO exist and they are taking advantage of the alcohol parties at CPAC to poison the minds and pollute the bodies of young conservatives who are still too naïve to know what is being done to them,” - Eugene Delgaudio, President of the Public Advocate of the U.S., warning about GOProud in a fundraising email.

hide yo kids. the gays are at cpac. /

Sigh, I used to live very near where Mr. Delgaudio represents and screw him for equating homosexuality with child molestation when his own brother was busted with kiddie porn.

6 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:30:19am

Newsmap…I love this fuckin’ site.

And why must we be subjected to Geller rubbing her smegma on people every day…yesterday it was Rumsfeld, today it’s some fat fuck with one of those insecurity beards.

7 researchok  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:31:41am

Uh oh….A Mission Accomplished sign in Tahrir Square.

8 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:31:46am

Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan
/CPAC

9 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:33:56am

As I said yesterday, Reagan is more idea than actual man with a legacy at this time.

10 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:34:08am

re: #4 wrenchwench

What are the “minor age students” doing at the “alcohol parties”? I submit that alcohol is much more dangerous than gay people.

i doubt minors will be at “alcohol parties”. the letter is to scare people. homosexuals will ply your children with alcohol and make them gay at cpac. that’s how they create more gay people don’t ya know.

11 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:34:44am

re: #3 Gus 802

Here we go. Orrin Hatch has his wingnut hat on.

I picture that as like that old Steve Martin arrow sticking through the head on either side.
Image: 9dbc155571247ad96d6dfcef3d169229.jpg

12 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:36:11am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Sigh, I used to live very near where Mr. Delgaudio represents and screw him for equating homosexuality with child molestation when his own brother was busted with kiddie porn.

he probably thinks his brother is gay. thus the kiddie porn. i wish i was kidding.

13 tomg51spence  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:36:59am

So, is Palin the smartest for staying away?

14 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:37:18am

re: #6 darthstar

Newsmap…I love this fuckin’ site. Seconded..

I’m a big fan of popurls.com too…

15 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:37:43am

I can see how people peacefully exercising their first amendment rights to freedom of religion can be confused with a terrorist attack which killed thousands.

///

16 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:38:03am

re: #12 zora

he probably thinks his brother is gay. thus the kiddie porn. i wish i was kidding.

I don’t know. His brother is another nutcase like him.

17 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:38:52am

re: #13 tomg51spence

So, is Palin the smartest for staying away?

I’m sure there are many others smarter than her who stayed away.

18 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:39:20am

re: #13 tomg51spence

So, is Palin the smartest for staying away?

abcnews.go.com

‘Where’s Sarah Palin?’ CPAC Attendees Express Admiration, Skepticism of Potential GOP Nominee

19 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:39:33am

The second wave of the 9/11 attacks??

In the words of Stan Marsh: That’s pretty fucked up right there.

20 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:41:07am

Yeah it’s really fucked up taht Geller and Spencer consider Rauf and his wife’s mosque to be the second wave of the 9-11 attacks. Seriously the man and his wife must have the patience of saints considering the way they’ve handled the virthol directed at them.

21 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:41:37am

“And again, they show their complete lack of class; after waging a year-long campaign of hate speech and incitement against them, Spencer and Geller list Imam Rauf and his wife Daisy Khan as “(invited).”

Unfortunately Charles, the words “class” and “Republican” in the same sentence are becoming more and more uncommon unless that sentence is: “Many current Republicans have a complete lack of class.”

22 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:41:37am

Republicans:

Hey, the Egyptian revolution is dangerous because the religious fanatics may gain control!

Ohhh, and GOProud is the devil because the US is a Christian nation and God intended marriage to between a man and women!

23 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:42:22am

re: #19 dragonfire1981

The second wave of the 9/11 attacks??

In the words of Stan Marsh: That’s pretty fucked up right there.

Anime is the second Pearl Harbor meant to crush America under the heel of the new Shogunate.

24 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:43:00am

Gah. (OT)

Picked up a local paper and the Archdiocese of Philadelphia is named in a set of grand jury charges.


(CBS/AP) Two Roman Catholic priests, a former priest and a Catholic school teacher in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia were charged Thursday with raping young boys, while a former high-ranking church official was accused of transferring problem priests to new parishes without warning anyone of prior sex-abuse complaints.


The charges stemmed from a two-year grand jury investigation into priest abuse in the archdiocese, the second such inquiry in Philadelphia.


In a rare, if not unprecedented, move, the grand jury charged Monsignor William Lynn with endangering children in his role as secretary for clergy under former Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua.

cbsnews.com

25 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:44:12am

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anime is the second Pearl Harbor meant to crush America under the heel of the new Shogunate.

And they will meet the Caliphate on the East Coast and merge into…

26 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:44:49am

Fireworks in Cairo right now!!!!!!

27 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:45:28am

re: #13 tomg51spence

So, is Palin the smartest for staying away?

Bryan Fischer isn’t falling for it.

Palin: stance on GOProud, CPAC raises pro-family questions

Ms. Palin told David Brody of CBN that having representatives of the deviancy cabal sitting at the table and helping to choose speakers is just fine. She said it’s an example of “conservatives…reach(ing) out to others” and that GOProud’s participation is needed to “provide good information and balance, and…allow for healthy debate.”

But unfortunately, GOProud isn’t being invited to participate in a panel discussion over whether homosexual behavior is benign or a menace to human and social health. That would be one thing. They (GOProuders) instead are official participants, and thus granted license by organizers to use CPAC as a venue to promote their dangerous sexual agenda.

Ms. Palin’s statement on the subject was a bit meandering but left no doubt that she has no reservations about advocates of sexual abnormality being given a prominent place at a so-called conservative event.

Perhaps Ms. Palin doesn’t understand GOProud’s role at CPAC. If so, she can walk these comments back when she finds out. Of greater concern is that she may well understand GOProud’s agenda, and its mission of destroying the institution of marriage through redefinition, and may still think it’s a wonderful idea to give them an honored place.

28 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:46:00am

re: #25 oaktree

And they will meet the Caliphate on the East Coast and merge into…

MECHA-SHIVA! MECHA-SHIVA! MECHA-SHIVA!

29 tradewind  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:46:16am

re: #8 Varek Raith

The free world had better hope that our current president continues his Reagan-as-muse mode now and sends advisors and help to Egypt stat, a’la Reagan post Berlin Wall, rather than sitting around twiddling thumbs and sending nothing and no one a’ la Jimmy Carter.
Compare and contrast results.

30 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:46:37am

acarvin Andy Carvin
RT @nolanjazeera: Video shot by @skepticalD of @Ghonim in his house when he heard news of Mubarak resignation Youtube Video

31 tomg51spence  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:46:39am

re: #17 wrenchwench

Yes. Indeed.

I just found it humorous that some GOP were irritated that she continued to find reasons not to attend year after year.

32 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:47:40am

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anime is the second Pearl Harbor meant to crush America under the heel of the new Shogunate.

Shhh! Don’t give ‘em any ideas!

33 tradewind  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:48:06am

re: #29 tradewind
(Forgot to specify ‘Carter post Iranian revolution ‘, but I’m sure it was understood) .

34 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:48:09am

What astounds me is that there were some who stayed away from this because of GOProud.

35 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:49:23am

re: #31 tomg51spence

Yes. Indeed.

I just found it humorous that some GOP were irritated that she continued to find reasons not to attend year after year.

Last year, Sarah Palin’s handlers put out the word that she didn’t attend because the John Birch Society was there. I remember thinking at the time, “Bullshit.”

See: littlegreenfootballs.com

36 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:50:54am

posted this a couple of days ago. good read on goproud.

metroweekly.com


Guess Who’s Coming to CPAC?
GOProud has taken the conservative and LGBT movements by storm by being brash, loud and uncompromisingly conservative — and just as uncompromisingly gay

i can’t say that i completely understand their politics, but i don’t have to. one thing is for sure. they are not self-loathing as i first assumed. they appear quite fond of themselves.

from link:

Barron sums up his debates with LCR, with the left, with everyone, saying, ”I understand that many of us want to get to the same destination, the same place, where sexual orientation just doesn’t matter. And there are a lot of different paths to get there. And the fact that we have staked out one that nobody has been on before doesn’t make that path any less legitimate.”
37 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:51:10am

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

MECHA-SHIVA! MECHA-SHIVA! MECHA-SHIVA!

Who died? /shiva call

38 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:51:23am

Seriously: why isn’t Palin atttending CPAC?

39 tradewind  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:51:51am

re: #6 darthstar
Ewww.
Too soon after lunch for latent misogyny.

40 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:53:50am

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

MECHA-SHIVA! MECHA-SHIVA! MECHA-SHIVA!

Googly eyes!

41 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:53:53am

What I love honestly about these people and their apparent love of Reagan is that these are the most negative people you’ll ever see. “Obama’s bringing America down!” “We’re declining!” I am not a Reagan fan but the guy came from the FDR school of optimistic politics and that is one thing these doom and gloomers will never get.

42 blueraven  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:54:03am

re: #13 tomg51spence

So, is Palin the smartest for staying away?

Not necessarily. But then again, she only speaks for money, so maybe…

43 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:54:17am

re: #39 tradewind

Ewww.
Too soon after lunch for latent misogyny.

rumsfeld is a woman?

44 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:54:50am

re: #37 lawhawk

Who died? /shiva call

video.adultswim.com

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:55:30am

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’ve been rewatching the commentary tracks from season 3, god damn they are just the funniest dudes

46 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:55:46am

re: #38 Alexzander

Seriously: why isn’t Palin atttending CPAC?

My bets are on one or more of the following:
1. Not offered a big enough payday
2. No guarantee of being the lone “star”
3. Potential for major gaffe in front of competition/donors
4. Can hold out as being above the need of CPAC to succeed

47 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:56:29am

re: #38 Alexzander

Seriously: why isn’t Palin atttending CPAC?

she has never attended. this year she turned down the keynote speech.
per palin:

“February is our busiest winter month and with all the prior obligations and outside travel already scheduled for the month I had to forgo some of the opportunities in the Lower 48,” said Palin in an email to the Fix Thursday explaining her decision.

voices.washingtonpost.com

48 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:56:33am

re: #46 oaktree

My bets are on one or more of the following:
1. Not offered a big enough payday
2. No guarantee of being the lone “star”
3. Potential for major gaffe in front of competition/donors
4. Can hold out as being above the need of CPAC to succeed

it’;s just not to her advantage, CPAC is bush league, they need her way more than she needs them

49 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:57:16am

Not sure why she’s not there. The Birchers answer from last year as Charles said sounds like BS to me too considering there’s a photo of her that was posted here at that time that showed the JBS magazine near her disk and that her own husband belonged to a party that had very similiar principles to the Birchers.

50 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 11:58:57am

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

51 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:01:03pm

52 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:01:10pm

re: #50 Charles

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

John Waters?

53 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:01:46pm

re: #50 Charles

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

If “memorable” is the goal, he’s got that.

In that “Hardball” video yesterday, I thought he was wearing his mother’s glasses.

54 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:02:51pm

re: #51 Charles

Image: ZZ50308785.jpg

Looks like a failed riff on the “Isaac Asimov” look.

55 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:03:35pm

Obama to speak within the half hour.

56 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:03:43pm

Here comes Smiling Tim Pawlenty. Wonder if he’ll talk about bringing back DADT?

57 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:04:04pm

Maybe he forgot to shave? This is the same guy who didn’t know if Obama was Muslim or not right? When there’s an issue that pressing going on, sometimes you just forget.

58 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:04:18pm

re: #50 Charles

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

Stop being mean, its a bruise from a hockey stick.

59 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:05:08pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

This is the same guy who didn’t know if Obama was Muslim or not right?

No, that was the Dallas Tea Party leader. Kibbe actually said he “takes Obama at his word.”

60 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:05:10pm

Media overload: I have al jazeera live and CPAC on at the same time… cant decide which way to go.

61 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:05:42pm

re: #58 ozbloke

Stop being mean, its a bruise from a hockey stick.

“Dude, do I have a mark on my face? I don’t feel anything here or here, but right here…”

“Nope. You’re good man.”

62 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:06:04pm

Speaking of Palin. Latest Fox News poll or potential GOP candidates. Obama beats paling by 21 points.

7-9 Feb 11
Obama: 56%
Palin: 35

That’s gotta hurt the Palinistas. And it’s from Fox News!

70 percent wouldn’t want her as prez.

H/T Eric Boehlert

63 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:06:09pm

some wingnuts were reporting the the muslim brotherhood (aka muslims for america) had infiltrated cpac with an assist from grover norquist no less.

I noted last week that the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington is currently the target of a boycott by social conservatives over the inclusion of the gay Republican group GOProud. Now, CPAC has angered a separate segment of the conservative movement by allowing the conservative group Muslims for America to participate.

As Politico’s Ben Smith quipped, “Who knew that creeping Sharia was so gay-friendly?”

salon.com

64 BishopX  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:06:13pm

Obama is live,

whitehouse.gov

65 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:06:20pm

Obama speaking noW!

66 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:06:46pm

re: #62 Gus 802

Speaking of Palin. Latest Fox News poll or potential GOP candidates. Obama beats paling Palin by 21 points.

7-9 Feb 11
Obama: 56%
Palin: 35

That’s gotta hurt the Palinistas. And it’s from Fox News!

70 percent wouldn’t want her as prez.

H/T Eric Boehlert

Oops. Strange typo. Have other things on my mind.

67 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:07:29pm

re: #59 Charles

No, that was the Dallas Tea Party leader. Kibbe actually said he “takes Obama at his word.”

Ah thanks. Just wondered because that dude had weird facial hair too.

68 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:07:51pm

Come to think of it. Obama beats everyone in that poll.

69 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:08:50pm

re: #63 zora

some wingnuts were reporting the the muslim brotherhood (aka muslims for america) had infiltrated cpac with an assist from grover norquist no less.

[Link: www.salon.com…]

I feel so bad laughing at this because it’s based on such ignorance and hate but it’s so stupid I can’t help it.

70 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:10:12pm

This is a good speech by the president. Like him or not but he’s good at this.

71 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:11:53pm

“It was not violence, but Moral Force bent the arch of history toward justice once more.”

72 BishopX  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:12:12pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I think this is his best speech on Egypt yet. I suspect that he has been writing this speech for quite some time.

73 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:12:16pm

The numbers:

Romney
7-9 Feb 11
48% Obama
41% Romney

Huckabee
7-9 Feb 11
49% Obama
41% Huckabee

Palin
7-9 Feb 11
56% Obama
35% Palin

Gingrich
7-9 Feb 11
55% Obama
35% Gingrich

Jeb Bush
7-9 Feb 11
54% Obama
34% Bush

74 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:12:41pm

Ouch!

75 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:13:13pm

Powerful speech….

76 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:13:15pm

re: #72 BishopX

I think this is his best speech on Egypt yet. I suspect that he has been writing this speech for quite some time.

It’s very moving. I said this after I finally saw him speak last year but I finally understand what my parents and their generation had with Jack Kennedy.

77 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:13:16pm

re: #69 Jadespring

I feel so bad laughing at this because it’s based on such ignorance and hate but it’s so stupid I can’t help it.

thinkprogress.org

At CPAC yesterday, ThinkProgress caught up with Norquist — whose wife is Muslim — and asked him to respond to Gaffney and the general Muslim fearmongering from the right. “It’s very important to recognize that each of these faiths is completely consistent with the U.S. Constitution and a free and open society,” Norquist said, adding it’s also important “for the conservative movement to have many doors open.” He said that the right has to “marginalize” Islamophobia within its ranks and “knock that stuff down and just make it clear that there’s no place for that in the party of Reagan.”

78 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:14:34pm

re: #74 Gus 802

Ouch!

that’s gonna hurt!

I wonder when the GOP will get around to running Zombie Reagan.

79 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:14:39pm

Behold the modern wingnut in its natural environment…

Victoria Jackson: Fox News “Is Our Only Channel Of Truth”

80 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:14:57pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Wow that surprises me……

81 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:15:10pm

re: #77 zora

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

At CPAC yesterday, ThinkProgress caught up with Norquist — whose wife is Muslim — and asked him to respond to Gaffney and the general Muslim fearmongering from the right. “It’s very important to recognize that each of these faiths is completely consistent with the U.S. Constitution and a free and open society,” Norquist said, adding it’s also important “for the conservative movement to have many doors open.” He said that the right has to “marginalize” Islamophobia within its ranks and “knock that stuff down and just make it clear that there’s no place for that in the party of Reagan.”

Just like I did with Bush when I read his criticism of Isolationism, Protectionism, and Nativism, I find myself applauding soemone (Norquist) who I could nost stand. He’s absolutely right about this. The guy must bewildered to see himself being called a Muslim Brotherhood infiltrator.

82 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:15:12pm

Damn he’s a good speaker at times.

That was great.

83 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:15:52pm

re: #78 iceweasel

that’s gonna hurt!

I wonder when the GOP will get around to running Zombie Reagan.

Just in time! Pawlenty is talking about. You guessed it. Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan

84 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:17:25pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

Behold the modern wingnut in its natural environment…

Victoria Jackson: Fox News “Is Our Only Channel Of Truth”

she has some scary eyes.

85 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:17:34pm

Here we go again with the “American exceptionalism” meme.

Yeah. Freedom unless you’re a woman, gay, trans, Mexican, atheist, Muslim, etc., etc., etc.

86 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:18:33pm

Yes, I’m optimistic that you’ll go away Pawlenty. You’re destined to be the GOP’s Bob Dole of 2012.

87 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:18:36pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Here we go again with the “American exceptionalism” meme.

Yeah. Freedom unless you’re a woman, gay, trans, Mexican, atheist, Muslim, etc., etc., etc.

It really amazes me that he talks like this in one breath and probably in another will call for DADT to be reinstated. Freedom for me but not for you.

88 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:19:17pm

re: #84 zora

she has some scary eyes.

…and hair. Let’s not overlook her voice.

89 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:19:34pm

re: #83 Gus 802

Just in time! Pawlenty is talking about. You guessed it. Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan

What’s with the Reagan worship? Is it the dream candidate who can do no wrong that they’re pining for? Or the dream of reuniting all the wingnut factions, like the religious right again? What?

90 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:19:46pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

It really amazes me that he talks like this in one breath and probably in another will call for DADT to be reinstated. Freedom for me but not for you.

They all do it. It’s like GOProud being there. Of course GOProud doesn’t care because it’s an exclusive club for wealthy white males.

91 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:20:37pm

re: #84 zora

she has some scary eyes.

THE ABYSS! IT STARES BACK!

92 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:21:31pm

re: #89 iceweasel

What’s with the Reagan worship? Is it the dream candidate who can do no wrong that they’re pining for? Or the dream of reuniting all the wingnut factions, like the religious right again? What?

The Reagan that destroyed the Soviet Union by blowing fireballs out of his arse. Sorry, was thinking of William Wallace.

93 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:21:39pm

[hurl]

94 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:21:45pm

Egyptian State TV carried Obama’s speech. People saying that’s not normal.

95 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:21:49pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

It really amazes me that he talks like this in one breath and probably in another will call for DADT to be reinstated. Freedom for me but not for you.

Freedom’s just another word for no one left to accuse….

96 Big Steve  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:22:09pm

re: #50 Charles

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

Hey I had a pair of those in high school……it was the hight of fashion in 1973.

97 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:22:27pm

re: #89 iceweasel

What’s with the Reagan worship? Is it the dream candidate who can do no wrong that they’re pining for? Or the dream of reuniting all the wingnut factions, like the religious right again? What?

Cheap populism trick. Hero worship. Part revanchism part romanticism.

98 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:22:42pm

Tim Pawlenty is trying to be more of a Bible thumper than Mike Huckabee. The GOP’s candidates in 2012 are going to be the godliest ever.

99 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:23:01pm

re: #94 Jadespring

Egyptian State TV carried Obama’s speech. People saying that’s not normal.

Probably had to go threw a board of monitors and censors in the past.

100 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:23:28pm

re: #98 Charles

Tim Pawlenty is trying to be more of a Bible thumper than Mike Huckabee. The GOP’s candidates in 2012 are going to be the godliest ever.

And they’ll remind us weekly, daily, hourly. They have the acronym backwards. It’s not the GOP it’s the POG: The Party of God.

101 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:23:53pm

re: #98 Charles

Tim Pawlenty is trying to be more of a Bible thumper than Mike Huckabee. The GOP’s candidates in 2012 are going to be the godliest ever.

Will they throw down their staves for a snake fight?

102 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:24:21pm

Sorry, OT, this was too good not to share:

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Another joke I got via SMS: “Dear Arab people: What happens in Egypt stays in Egypt. Sincerely, Arab dictators”
103 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:24:25pm

re: #100 Gus 802

And they’ll remind us weekly, daily, hourly. They have the acronym backwards. It’s not the GOP it’s the POG: The Party of God.

God’s Own Party

104 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:24:27pm

re: #100 Gus 802

And they’ll remind us weekly, daily, hourly. They have the acronym backwards. It’s not the GOP it’s the POG: The Party of God.

Obama iz a seekrit muslim backlash, is what this all is.

105 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:25:28pm

re: #104 iceweasel

Obama iz a seekrit muslim backlash, is what this all is.

Also,the logical culmination of 10 years of claiming godless ‘liberals’ want to kill America.

106 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:25:39pm

re: #104 iceweasel

Obama iz a seekrit muslim backlash, is what this all is.

Somebody tweeted during his speech “oh no! he’s saying Arabic words correctly”

107 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:26:10pm

But where will Republicans bang their mistresses?.

“House office buildings are not dorms or frat houses,” Melanie Sloan, the group’s executive director, said Thursday. “If members didn’t want to find housing in Washington, they shouldn’t have run for Congress in the first place.”

108 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:26:20pm

It’s sad when a panderer like Mitt Romney seems like he’s going to be your party’s most reasonable candidate. It’s like the GOP has decided to become regressive in the wake of Obama’s election. Truly sad honestly. Never been a Republican or Republican voter really but I believe in balance after all.

109 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:26:20pm

Too weird. He goes from playing a minister talking up God and then goes on to talking about budgets.

He’s all over the place.

Oh yeah. Minnesota is also home to the nutcase Michelle Bachmann and former governor Jesse Ventura. Guess he forgot about that. Al Franken has been a very good senator and he’s quite a smart man.

110 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:26:25pm

re: #94 Jadespring

Egyptian State TV carried Obama’s speech. People saying that’s not normal.

Cool. Where are you reading this?

111 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:27:06pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

Somebody tweeted during his speech “oh no! he’s saying Arabic words correctly”

OH NO! Like Pock-e-Stahn? That durn sure proves he ain’t one of us.

112 blueraven  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:27:15pm

re: #73 Gus 802

The numbers:

Romney
7-9 Feb 11
48% Obama
41% Romney

Huckabee
7-9 Feb 11
49% Obama
41% Huckabee

Palin
7-9 Feb 11
56% Obama
35% Palin

Gingrich
7-9 Feb 11
55% Obama
35% Gingrich

Jeb Bush
7-9 Feb 11
54% Obama
34% Bush

So will Sean Hannity tout these numbers on his program tonight? /

113 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:28:06pm

re: #107 darthstar

But where will Republicans bang their mistresses?.

Agh why do I even botehr reading the ramblings of the morons on yahoo comments.

114 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:28:12pm

OK, that was stupid. About the tax preparing. A lot of simple folks will us a tax accountant.

115 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:29:50pm

“Use” not “us”.

116 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:29:51pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Youtube Video

117 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:30:28pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Agh why do I even botehr reading the ramblings of the morons on yahoo comments.

Makes you feel better about yourself?

118 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:30:59pm

Never thought I’d see the day when Fox would speak highly of Al Jazeera comments. They just mentioned Al Jazeera saying this was the Arab worlds version of the fall of the Berlin wall. Some right wing blogs are saying they’ll boycott Fox news now.

119 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:31:20pm

re: #114 Gus 802

OK, that was stupid. About the tax preparing. A lot of simple folks will us a tax accountant.

I do! because it’s literally too complicated for me to do my own taxes :P

120 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:31:47pm

re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Makes you feel better about yourself?

Nah, I like trainwrecks :).

121 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:32:15pm

re: #118 avanti

Never thought I’d see the day when Fox would speak highly of Al Jazeera comments. They just mentioned Al Jazeera saying this was the Arab worlds version of the fall of the Berlin wall. Some right wing blogs are saying they’ll boycott Fox news now.

Sweet; what blogs?

122 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:32:32pm

I’m very open to balanced budgets. Fiscal conservatism — call it what you wish. But I’m not interested in fiscal conservatism when it’s coming from a Bible thumping social-conservative-authoritarian politician No dice.

123 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:32:38pm

re: #118 avanti

Never thought I’d see the day when Fox would speak highly of Al Jazeera comments. They just mentioned Al Jazeera saying this was the Arab worlds version of the fall of the Berlin wall. Some right wing blogs are saying they’ll boycott Fox news now.

This is too funny.

124 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:32:52pm

re: #118 avanti

Never thought I’d see the day when Fox would speak highly of Al Jazeera comments. They just mentioned Al Jazeera saying this was the Arab worlds version of the fall of the Berlin wall. Some right wing blogs are saying they’ll boycott Fox news now.

oh it’s just a glorious day when dumb people can’t fit complicated world events their grey dull monochrome worldview

125 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:33:06pm

Pawlenty comes across as so affected.

USA! USA! USA!

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:33:23pm

re: #121 Alexzander

Sweet; what blogs?

probably ARMYMASTER ULTRAWARRIOR STRATEGY BLOG

127 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:33:47pm

We appeased to Iran? Wut?

128 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:33:50pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

It’s sad when a panderer like Mitt Romney seems like he’s going to be your party’s most reasonable candidate. It’s like the GOP has decided to become regressive in the wake of Obama’s election. Truly sad honestly. Never been a Republican or Republican voter really but I believe in balance after all.

the pickings are slim. romney’s a panderer among other things, but i think he has the the biggest chance to pick up moderates.

129 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:33:51pm

re: #122 Gus 802

I’m very open to balanced budgets. Fiscal conservatism — call it what you wish. But I’m not interested in fiscal conservatism when it’s coming from a Bible thumping social-conservative-authoritarian politician No dice.

I like fiscal conservatism, that’s why I voted for Clinton twice!

130 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:33:58pm

Here comes the saber rattling.

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:34:18pm

re: #128 zora

the pickings are slim. romney’s a panderer among other things, but i think he has the the biggest chance to pick up moderates.

IF he rejects the tea party bullshit in the general outright

132 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:34:58pm

re: #124 WindUpBird

oh it’s just a glorious day when dumb people can’t fit complicated world events their grey dull monochrome worldview

How Drudge parsed it

133 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:34:59pm

re: #128 zora

the pickings are slim. romney’s a panderer among other things, but i think he has the the biggest chance to pick up moderates.

Yeah well he has to win the nomination first. Not going to be easy for a guy whose opponents wiil surely equate to Obama due to his health care bill in Massachusetts.

134 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:36:24pm

Winning WWII - Democrat FDR
Going to the moon - Democrat JFK

135 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:36:42pm

re: #105 iceweasel

Also,the logical culmination of 10 years of claiming godless ‘liberals’ want to kill America.

I for one am doing my part to turn America into a satanic queer socialist police state with pink-jack-booted thugs barging into the homes of God Fearing America Loving Bapists in South Carolina and forcing them to attend drag shows with their children

136 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:36:45pm

re: #131 WindUpBird

i don’t think there is anybody or anything he won’t reject or accept if he thinks it will win him the presidency. equal opportunity panderer.

137 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:36:46pm

Pawlenty is trying to step up his game, but it looks out of place trying to be energized.

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:37:10pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

How Drudge parsed it

So I guess Drudge’s pants must be almost done

139 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:37:32pm

re: #50 Charles

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

LOL…my husband. He’s always shaving his beard into crazy configurations. Kibbe’s is one he hasn’t yet tried.

140 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:38:04pm

Ron Paul next everybody!!!

141 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:38:26pm

re: #136 zora

i don’t think there is anybody or anything he won’t reject or accept if he thinks it will win him the presidency. equal opportunity panderer.

yeha, but that’s the thing, you have two opposite ways to pander, can’t do both! Can’t pander to tea party AND moderates, because the tea party is trying towitchhunt all moderates out of the party

The tea party stuff is a zero sum game

142 rwdflynavy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:39:06pm

re: #50 Charles

Anybody watching CPAC? Matt Kibbe has the creepiest sideburns in the world. Who looks in the mirror at that and says, “Yeah! You’re looking good, dude!” ?

A little respect! That’s our 21st President, Chester A. Arthur!!!
//

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:39:08pm

re: #140 Alexzander

Ron Paul next everybody!!!

I wonder if he’ll sound like a doddering fool

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:39:21pm

re: #124 WindUpBird

oh it’s just a glorious day when dumb people can’t fit complicated world events their grey dull monochrome worldview

Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens. - Schiller

145 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:39:44pm

Why is Gobbs leaving?

146 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:40:03pm

re: #140 Alexzander

Ron Paul next everybody!!!

So we’ll go from Pawlenty’s empire and militaristic world view to Paul’s isolationism. Given that Paul frequently brings up “blowback” which is tantamount to “apologizing” to other countries.

147 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:40:32pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

I wonder if he’ll sound like a doddering fool

Yes.

148 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:41:06pm

I believe Ron Paul’s big hero is Robert A. Taft who the modern GOP seems to have a lot in common with. Poor Eisenhower and Tom Dewey, they’re probably thinking, we saved the party in the early 50’s and now they’re this?

149 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:41:43pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

I wonder if he’ll sound like a doddering fool

No. he never sounds that way. You have to stare at the words on paper to really get the crazy.

150 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:41:51pm

WTF is up with the music at CPAC?

They sure are in touch.

151 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:42:00pm

Politics. It’s so Pavlovian. Pawlenty reminds me of Bob Roberts.

152 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:42:01pm

Gibbs! I mean Gibbs! Yeesh

153 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:42:23pm

re: #152 Jadespring

Gibbs! I mean Gibbs! Yeesh

Gobbs! That was funny.

154 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:42:25pm

With Ron coming up to speak, I think its important to play the unofficial CPAC Anthem once again.

Youtube Video

155 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:42:47pm

re: #152 Jadespring

Gibbs! I mean Gibbs! Yeesh

Barry Gibbs?

156 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:43:00pm

CPAC live twitter feed!

157 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:43:05pm

It’s a full house for Ron Paul.

158 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:43:14pm

re: #153 Gus 802

Gobbs! That was funny.

That’s what I get from typing fast with my laptop on a weird angle.

159 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:43:48pm

Cheers and boos for paul already.

160 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:43:53pm

@rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch

This gravel-voiced, hyped-up, bomb-throwing ultra-right wing #CPAC Tim Pawlenty was a nice change from the actual boring Tim Pawlenty.

161 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:43:56pm

re: #155 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Barry Gibbs?

Robert Gibbs. They’re showing his last day. Didn’t know he was leaving.

162 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:44:12pm

re: #156 Alexzander

CPAC live twitter feed!

Do we have Al Jazeera from CPAC?

163 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:44:48pm

Triumph of the Paulians.

164 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:44:53pm

I can proudly say I’ve never been fond of Ron Paul.

165 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:45:58pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I can proudly say I’ve never been fond of Ron Paul.

Well I lurvs him. He’s cute.

166 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:45:59pm

Unconstitutional wars?!?! lol

167 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:46:04pm

re: #121 Alexzander

Sweet; what blogs?

Hot Air for one, they were even down on Megan Kelly today since she was not critical enough about the revolution.

168 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:46:10pm

re: #150 Alexzander

WTF is up with the music at CPAC?

They sure are in touch.

They have a problem. Most musicians hate it when Republicans use their music so unless they want to use country music they have to use generic rick music to they can just buy the rights.

169 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:46:15pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Politics. It’s so Pavlovian. Pawlenty reminds me of Bob Roberts.

Youtube Video

170 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:46:49pm

Much louder crowd reaction for Ron Paul… no?

171 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:47:48pm

Patriot Act!

172 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:47:54pm
“We need to change our philosophy of what this country is all about.” - Paul
173 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:48:10pm

Hahahahahaha! The Necons are going crazy. He’s slapping them in the face.

174 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:48:32pm

re: #172 Alexzander

Funny that since isn’t that a fundamental right wing critique of Obama that he’s trying to change what this country is all about. Oh Glenn Beck, Mr. Paul on line 1.

175 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:22pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Politics. It’s so Pavlovian. Pawlenty reminds me of Bob Roberts.

Be a clean-livin’ man with a rope in your hand!

Youtube Video

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:24pm

re: #150 Alexzander

WTF is up with the music at CPAC?

They sure are in touch.

ahahaha what was the music?

177 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:24pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

That was exactly my reaction.

178 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:40pm

re: #119 WindUpBird

I work with taxes all the time, and I have my FIL handle mine since he’s a tax preparer. I’ve prepared my taxes before, but that’s usually with Turbo Tax.

The tax code, with all the credits, deductions, exemptions, and other limitations and changes is simply too complex to try a paper return and sometimes it just takes an outside preparer to make sure that you have all your paperwork in order.

That’s billions of dollars a year that is spent on tax preparation that could otherwise be spent on more productive uses.

Simplification could go a long way to reducing the burden to prepare returns - and improve compliance (a huge issue, particularly with things like the EITC for personal tax returns and other more complex item on the corporate side like NOLs).

179 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:46pm

Isolationism!

180 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:47pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

They have a problem. Most musicians hate it when Republicans use their music so unless they want to use country music they have to use generic rick music to they can just buy the rights.

Stuck Mojo!

181 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:49:58pm

Cheering for isolation now. Yay!

182 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:50:31pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

How Drudge parsed it

Better than “Pro American Leader tossed out Islamic militant rioters” Hey, wait, I could get a job at Fox making up that kind of made up headline.

183 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:50:39pm

Then why were they cheering Pawlenty?

184 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:51:11pm

You know who he meant by “for everybody”.

Israel.

185 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:51:15pm

They should hold CPAC every month. They seem to be happiest when they’re all seething in the same room.

186 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:51:24pm

Oh damn. This whole time with Egypt I could have been watching BBC coverage as well. They must have added it to one of the satellite packages I have. Didn’t notice until now.

187 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:51:40pm

Cheering for isolation sounds like an oxymoron. It should be done under the covers, alone, with the lights out.

188 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:51:49pm

Well if their cheering for isolationism now, as I said, the party’s becoming what the party was pre Eisenhower. And G.W Bush who recently criticized isolationism, protectionism, and nativism is thinking boy am I glad not to be publically involved with this party anymore.

189 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:52:11pm

re: #182 avanti

Better than “Pro American Leader tossed out Islamic militant rioters” Hey, wait, I could get a job at Fox making up that kind of made up headline.

True, but it does appear that Drudge has a different channel for every day life than the rest of the planet.

190 AlexRogan  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:52:30pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

They have a problem. Most musicians hate it when Republicans use their music so unless they want to use country music they have to use generic rick music to they can just buy the rights.

See: Heart’s Barracuda at the 2008 GOP convention…

191 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:52:37pm

re: #178 lawhawk

I work with taxes all the time, and I have my FIL handle mine since he’s a tax preparer. I’ve prepared my taxes before, but that’s usually with Turbo Tax.

The tax code, with all the credits, deductions, exemptions, and other limitations and changes is simply too complex to try a paper return and sometimes it just takes an outside preparer to make sure that you have all your paperwork in order.

That’s billions of dollars a year that is spent on tax preparation that could otherwise be spent on more productive uses.

Simplification could go a long way to reducing the burden to prepare returns - and improve compliance (a huge issue, particularly with things like the EITC for personal tax returns and other more complex item on the corporate side like NOLs).


Sorry, not going to go down the political road, I think even if the tax code were simple, I’d still get it done, I have too many sources of freelance income, too many weird deductions, blah blah home office blah blah equipment depreciation

Basically, I spend a couple hundred bucks on getting taxes done a year, honestly it’s a lot cheaper than routine car maintenance :D it would have to be flat-tax simple to truly be “simple” in the way you describe

192 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:53:19pm

A lot of people in the room are not clapping for the Crazy Uncle. This speech is revealing a big schism in the right wing.

193 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:53:26pm

Ron Paul is apologizing to the world!

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:53:27pm

re: #190 talon_262

See: Heart’s Barracuda at the 2008 GOP convention…

Oh Heart are northwest liberals! They are so Dem it hurts, they and Queensryche have done liberal benefit shows

195 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:53:44pm

re: #190 talon_262

See: Heart’s Barracuda at the 2008 GOP convention…

or Springsteen v. Reagan and “Born in the USA”

196 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:53:57pm

Now he’s going against the “Reagan brought down the Soviet Union” meme!

197 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:14pm

re: #195 darthstar

or Springsteen v. Reagan and “Born in the USA”

or McCain’s Running On Empty with Jackson Browne.

198 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:23pm

Ron Paul sounds like he’s doing standup comedy!

199 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:37pm

Like totally observational standup comedy

YUK YUK

200 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:37pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Now he’s going against the “Reagan brought down the Soviet Union” meme!

Haha this should be fun.

201 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:54:52pm

re: #195 darthstar

or Springsteen v. Reagan and “Born in the USA”

I love how they DIDN’T EVEN READ THE LYRICS HAHAH

202 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:55:19pm

Kaboom!

203 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:55:20pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

They have a problem. Most musicians hate it when Republicans use their music so unless they want to use country music they have to use generic rick music to they can just buy the rights.

Didn’t they use Born In The USA, not knowing what it was really about ?

204 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:55:33pm

Military industrial complex!

205 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:55:36pm

Lot of boos for that one - the “military industrial complex.”

206 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:55:38pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Now he’s going against the “Reagan brought down the Soviet Union” meme!

Well, Reagan didn’t bring down the Soviets. They brought themselves down. Then again, we’ll hear similar arguments about Obama and Egypt in the coming years, so I suppose a little creative revisionism isn’t the worst thing in the world. That’s why I fed all those people with just a couple of loaves of bread, a few fish, and a never-ending bottle of Sriracha.

207 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:55:55pm

Okay I am turning off Ron Paul Overdrive, that guy has the most smarmy cadence and voice I have ever heard, it’s making my skin crawl right off my body

208 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:56:28pm

Riot!

209 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:56:49pm

He’s a rock star.

210 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:56:59pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Now he’s going against the “Reagan brought down the Soviet Union” meme!

uhoh. Don’t they know that when they adopted Reagan’s eleventh commandment, they rewrote all of ‘em?

I am the Ronald thy Reagan, I am a jealous god. Thou shalt have no others before me.

211 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:57:03pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

or McCain’s Running On Empty with Jackson Browne.

McCain couldn’t get permission to use Pat Boone’s cover of “Enter Sandman”

Youtube Video

212 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:57:03pm

re: #207 WindUpBird

Okay I am turning off Ron Paul Overdrive, that guy has the most smarmy cadence and voice I have ever heard, it’s making my skin crawl right off my body

Yeah it’s like nails on a chalkboard isn’t it? The only time I’ve really seen him talk was when Sacha Baron Cohen as Bruno tried to have an encounter with him thinking he was RuPaul which was hilarious.

213 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:57:05pm

They’re chanting “End the Fed!”

214 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:57:56pm

re: #210 iceweasel

uhoh. Don’t they know that when they adopted Reagan’s eleventh commandment, they rewrote all of ‘em?

I am the Ronald thy Reagan, I am a jealous god. Thou shalt have no others before me.

He wasn’t specific. He just said that “the real reason” the Soviet Union fell was because of economic reasons and their foray in Afghanistan.

215 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:58:10pm

The more I hear about this divide, the more I think the GOP is primed for a Democrats in 1972 moment.

216 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:58:24pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

He’s a rock star.

Pff, can we trade him to get Bon Scott back?

217 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:58:26pm

re: #214 Gus 802

He wasn’t specific. He just said that “the real reason” the Soviet Union fell was because of economic reasons and their foray in Afghanistan.

As opposed to Saint Reagan waving his magic wand over the Soviet Union.

218 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:59:25pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

The more I hear about this divide, the more I think the GOP is primed for a Democrats in 1972 moment.

Put that thought out of your head. We have to approach 2012 as though the GOP were smart, sane, and united.

219 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:59:27pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Will they throw down their staves for a snake fight?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

There’s several layers of humor in that comment. Only one of them is a reference to Moses.

220 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:59:35pm

OK. He just went from saying there’s too much bipartisanship and then went on to say he wants to see some bipartisanship.

221 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 12:59:58pm

Rattling off the same old cliche. American exceptionalism.

222 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:00:34pm

re: #213 Charles

They’re chanting “End the Fed!”

heh…I’m watching the Egyptian celebration and thought, “Why would they say that?”

223 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:00:42pm

It may sound a little silly on my part but I think you gotta give Gorbachev credit too. He was totally different than Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko. Guy was a fairly young man when things like the Hungarian Uprising, Prague Spring, happened rather than the other three guys who came of age and education during the Stalin years. I am glad things ended the way they did but I don’t think Reagan would have had as much success if he was dealing with Yuri Andropov, former KGB director and ambassador to Hungary circa 1956 as opposed to Mikhail Gorbachev, grandson of a gulag prisoner.

224 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:00:53pm

re: #220 Gus 802

OK. He just went from saying there’s too much bipartisanship and then went on to say he wants to see some bipartisanship.

All the hot young freshmen members of Congress try bipartianship once, like at a party or something.

225 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:01:02pm

re: #219 Fozzie Bear

HAHAHAHAHAHA

There’s several layers of humor in that comment. Only one of them is a reference to Moses.

Yup.

226 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:01:31pm

re: #218 Decatur Deb

Put that thought out of your head. We have to approach 2012 as though the GOP were smart, sane, and united.


Done, seriously though it seems like they’re ripe for a civil war at their convention.

227 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:01:46pm

Like abortion Mr. Paul?

228 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:02:08pm

re: #224 iceweasel

All the hot young freshmen members of Congress try bipartianship once, like at a party or something.

But it doesn’t mean they’re “bi” bi.

229 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:02:12pm

Here we go again.

230 iceweasel  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:04:06pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

But it doesn’t mean they’re “bi” bi.

Just bipartisan curious!

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:04:24pm

re: #224 iceweasel

All the hot young freshmen members of Congress try bipartianship once, like at a party or something.

**SNERK***

232 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:06:07pm

Police state!

Take that Cheney!

//

233 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:07:15pm

Pam Geller just blew a head gasket.

234 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:09:05pm

re: #233 Gus 802

Pam Geller just blew a head gasket.

We’ll dispatch some Imagineers.

235 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:10:19pm

Now we go from Ron Paul’s isolationism and anti-militarism to Pam Geller and Robert Spencer’s Holy War and the impending war of the worlds!

236 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:11:01pm

Off Topic (or is it?) Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker promises to break out the troops against the other government employees if people protest against his budget. I wonder if his salary is cut?

ov. Scott Walker says he is confident state workers will continue to show up for work and do their jobs, despite their potential disappointment in his emergency budget proposal.

However, if there is worker unrest, Walker says the Wisconsin National Guard is prepared to respond.

After all, nothing says break out the troops more than union busting

“We are out of money and the options are few. We can either raise taxes — which is absolutely off the table — reduce spending or lay off workers,” Jeff Fitzgerald, the Republican Speaker of the State Assembly, told local radio.

“I expect the Capitol to explode” with protests, Fitzgerald said. “It’s going to be a very difficult week.”

State employee unions made $100 million in concessions in December, but Walker’s response has been “to eviscerate our most basic rights” and “end labor peace in Wisconsin,” said Bryan Kennedy

Why in the hell is raising taxes off the table? Oh wait, that’s right, It’s a Republican, they think the government can run on moonbeams and pixie dust.

237 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:12:14pm

re: #236 bloodstar

Off Topic (or is it?) Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker promises to break out the troops against the other government employees if people protest against his budget. I wonder if his salary is cut?

After all, nothing says break out the troops more than union busting

Why in the hell is raising taxes off the table? Oh wait, that’s right, It’s a Republican, they think the government can run on moonbeams and pixie dust.

Read about that, seriously messed up. You stay classy Scott Walker.

238 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:13:05pm

re: #236 bloodstar

Off Topic (or is it?) Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker promises to break out the troops against the other government employees if people protest against his budget. I wonder if his salary is cut?

After all, nothing says break out the troops more than union busting

Why in the hell is raising taxes off the table? Oh wait, that’s right, It’s a Republican, they think the government can run on moonbeams and pixie dust.

Wait until he finds out how many of his Guardsmen are state workers.

239 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:14:07pm

CNN just said Ron Paul was going to be on live in a bit—to comment on Egypt.

240 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:14:19pm

Or did Spencer and Geller already speak? Guess that’s a separate event.

241 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:15:31pm

Coming up next: Governor Bouffant.

//

242 AlexRogan  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:16:13pm

re: #239 Jadespring

CNN just said Ron Paul was going to be on live in a bit—to comment on Egypt.

Oh, joy…

243 researchok  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:16:32pm

re: #221 Gus 802

Rattling off the same old cliche. American exceptionalism.

That is the least offensive remark made.

244 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:16:47pm

re: #239 Jadespring

CNN just said Ron Paul was going to be on live in a bit—to comment on Egypt.

I predict the term “Foreign Entanglements” will be brought up.

245 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:17:13pm

Ron Paul on CNN right now.

246 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:17:25pm

re: #243 researchok

That is the least offensive remark made.

It’s not really offensive so to speak. It’s just they all keep bringing it up like a bunch of robots.

247 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:18:07pm

Oh dear.

248 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:18:19pm

Welfare Caseloads > Total recipients (most recent) by state

# 1 California: 1,085,627
# 2 New York: 341,004
# 3 Texas: 333,435

Burp

249 researchok  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:18:32pm

re: #246 Gus 802

It’s not really offensive so to speak. It’s just they all keep bringing it up like a bunch of robots.

Absolutely.

When you have to wear it on your sleeve…

250 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:19:25pm

Is it me or does Perry suddenly sounds like he’s trying to do an impersonation of GWB’s voice?

251 researchok  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:22:05pm

re: #250 Gus 802

Is it me or does Perry suddenly sounds like he’s trying to do an impersonation of GWB’s voice?

He’s just trying to sound like W.

Trying to sound Reaganesque would be too obvious.

252 Jack Burton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:22:46pm

re: #246 Gus 802

It’s not really offensive so to speak. It’s just they all keep bringing it up like a bunch of robots.

That and they always seem to claim it’s some divine God-ordained thing rather than a consequence of the country being a free liberal democratic republic constantly working to better live up to its ideals at a time when most of the world wasn’t.

I can’t find the section in the Bible that talks about America. I also cant find the part where Spock blasts God with photon torpedoes either so…

253 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:23:02pm

bencnn benwedeman
Egypt’s police force is now on notice: when you finally all come back to work, be on your best behavior: OR ELSE! #Egypt

254 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:23:02pm

Amen? Bleh.

255 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:23:28pm

How long until we get strawpoll results?

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:23:55pm

re: #246 Gus 802

It’s not really offensive so to speak. It’s just they all keep bringing it up like a bunch of robots.

Wasn’t it part of a Robin Williams bit that Reagan *was* a Imagineered robot?

257 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:24:10pm

These people are all brainwashed. Every fucking one of them. It’s astounding.

It’s like the lights are on but nobody is home.

258 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:26:36pm

re: #248 Gus 802

But on a per capita basis, it’s 28th at 1.459 per 100 people.

California fares poorly in any analysis - 3.005 per 100 people (5th).
NY does slightly better - 1.771 per 100 people (20th).

The weighted average is 1.7 per 100.

Fun with statistics….

259 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:26:51pm

re: #248 Gus 802

Welfare Caseloads > Total recipients (most recent) by state

# 1 California: 1,085,627
# 2 New York: 341,004
# 3 Texas: 333,435

Burp

Now look at which states have the largest populations.

260 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:26:57pm

Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God, Reagan, God…

261 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:27:56pm

re: #257 Fozzie Bear

These people are all brainwashed. Every fucking one of them. It’s astounding.

It’s like the lights are on but nobody is home.

That shouldn’t be surprising. Gatherings like this (and the national conventions to a certain degree) are designed to promote unity, group-think, and the intimidation factor of masses.

262 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:28:21pm

“American Exceptionalism” = “AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!”

Is there anything more to this “concept” than that? Is there anything to any of these phrases that keep getting tossed around that amounts to an actual policy position?

263 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:29:16pm

re: #262 Fozzie Bear

“American Exceptionalism” = “AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!”

Is there anything more to this “concept” than that? Is there anything to any of these phrases that keep getting tossed around that amounts to an actual policy position?

Nope. It’s just a variation of “wrap yourself in the flag” style patriotism.

264 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:29:29pm

re: #260 Gus 802

God Emperor Reagan

265 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:30:23pm

re: #262 Fozzie Bear

“American Exceptionalism” = “AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!”

Is there anything more to this “concept” than that? Is there anything to any of these phrases that keep getting tossed around that amounts to an actual policy position?

It’s a protection spell.

266 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:31:21pm

re: #262 Fozzie Bear

“American Exceptionalism” = “AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!”

Is there anything more to this “concept” than that? Is there anything to any of these phrases that keep getting tossed around that amounts to an actual policy position?

If you start drawing bell curves, America is exceptional in many ways. Some of those ways are good.

267 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:31:30pm

re: #261 oaktree

That shouldn’t be surprising. Gatherings like this (and the national conventions to a certain degree) are designed to promote unity, group-think, and the intimidation factor of masses.

Probably so, but i’ve never seen a gathering where so many words are spoken and so little is said. And I have been an involved observer of our political system for my entire life. This is just… creepy and cultlike.

268 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:31:48pm

re: #258 lawhawk

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh. Texas. Praise God.

269 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:31:54pm

Well it seems Truman had it right- Grand Old Platitudes.

270 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:32:12pm

re: #265 Jadespring

It’s a protection spell.

I thought it was a mating call.

271 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:32:52pm

re: #270 Alexzander

I thought it was a mating call.

Don’t start quoting Republican pick-up lines.

272 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:33:04pm

Could someone please parse what Ron Paul just said on CNN? What I heard was two completely contradictory statements. First, it was a mistake to send aid to Egypt, and should end all foreign aid (including non-military). Then says that we should be friends and support them.

He’s also predicting that the next leader of Egypt will be a dictator, elections be damned.

273 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:33:26pm

re: #270 Alexzander

I thought it was a mating call.

Unfortunately for their species, the mating ritual consists of a few minutes of frenzied humping, followed by an exit from the public restroom and a lifetime of shame.

274 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:35:15pm

re: #273 Fozzie Bear

Hey… is that a toe tapping? /// shuffling off…

275 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:35:32pm

Revival meeting.

276 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:35:48pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Catchy beat…. maybe someone should autotune that sucka….

277 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:36:07pm

“We need thousands more troops securing the Texas border … Predator drones … national guard”

…

“Also, taxes are too high, and the government is oppressively large”

???

278 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:36:15pm

MADISON, Wis. —
Gov. Scott Walker says the Wisconsin National Guard is prepared to respond wherever is necessary in the wake of his announcement that he wants to take away nearly all collective bargaining rights from state employees.

Walker said Friday that he hasn’t called the Guard into action, but he has briefed them and other state agencies in preparation of any problems that could result in a disruption of state services, like staffing at prisons

279 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:36:45pm

re: #277 Fozzie Bear

“We need thousands more troops securing the Texas border … Predator drones … national guard”

…

“Also, taxes are too high, and the government is oppressively large”

???

Hey. Predator drones and border patrol is free!

//

280 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:36:49pm

Killgore: you were talking about the fact that the US version of Google.com wasn’t showing up in the new search requests page — well, it wasn’t because we aren’t getting hits from Google, it’s because one of the filters that screens for search results was not behaving properly.

Google now shows up fine. There are actually a LOT of hits from Google; I had to reset the list, so it will take a little while to fill up again.

281 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:37:16pm

re: #277 Fozzie Bear

“We need thousands more troops securing the Texas border … Predator drones … national guard”

…

“Also, taxes are too high, and the government is oppressively large”

???

The government is too large so let’s put Predator drones on the border? This guy is the longest tenured executive in the country?

282 Randy W. Weeks  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:37:45pm

gah…I need a beer.

283 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:38:25pm

Another Bob Roberts.

284 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:38:30pm

Rick Perry is a buffoon. Does he always talk like that or is he exaggerating the hick accent for the CPAC crowd?

285 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:39:05pm

re: #284 Charles

Rick Perry is a buffoon. Does he always talk like that or is he exaggerating the hick accent for the CPAC crowd?

Like I said before. He’s doing his best imitation of Bush’s voice.

286 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:39:06pm

re: #282 LoneStarSpur

gah…I need a beer.

Dos Equis is good.

287 recusancy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:39:09pm

Gibbs giving his last presser now.

288 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:40:05pm

re: #272 RadicalModerate

Could someone please parse what Ron Paul just said on CNN? What I heard was two completely contradictory statements. First, it was a mistake to send aid to Egypt, and should end all foreign aid (including non-military). Then says that we should be friends and support them.

He’s also predicting that the next leader of Egypt will be a dictator, elections be damned.

That’s pretty much what he said.

Sending money all the money was a waste as in terms of an investment. A lot of it ended up in Swiss bank accounts. It also ended up funding the military which wasn’t there to protect the state but Mubarak. Ends up supporting a dictator and then look what happened. Said no need for foreign aid anywhere especially in these economic times.
Said we can be friends, trade and whatnot but forget the aid.

Also said US should butt out and not interfere with what going on. Said the CIA is probably already looking for new guys to put in power and support. Shouldn’t do that, Egyptians don’t want it…causes trouble down the road. Said he believes that the odds of having another dictator are good but especially if the US interferes like it has before. Butt out and less chance of a dictator.

289 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:40:08pm

Right. By “teaching” intelligent design in schools.

290 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:40:11pm

re: #284 Charles

Rick Perry is a buffoon. Does he always talk like that or is he exaggerating the hick accent for the CPAC crowd?

That’s populism in a nutshell. Also, too.

291 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:40:52pm

The whispery preacher tone just pisses me off. I loathe this guy.

292 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:41:50pm

CPAC

they may be strong enough to make the GOP act like it’s cowering, but they have nobody who can get elected president

in 2012, they’ll vote for Smiley Poodle and like it

293 jaunte  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:42:16pm

re: #284 Charles

Buffoon is his first language.

294 recusancy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:43:17pm

Obama’s remarks on Egypt for those that missed it:

MSNBC Video

295 Randy W. Weeks  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:43:28pm

re: #293 jaunte

Buffoon is his first only language.

296 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:43:47pm

Now he’s doing his imitation of Glenn Beck.

297 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:44:26pm

The Ground Zero Mosque: The Nth Wave of Beating a Dead Horse

298 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:44:46pm

Right. November 2nd. The GOP failed to take the Senate. They only took the House. Don’t get too excited.

299 recusancy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:46:29pm

re: #285 Gus 802

Like I said before. He’s doing his best imitation of Bush’s voice.

He sounds and looks like Josh Brolin’s W performance.

300 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:46:36pm

OK, he’s trying to be optimistic? Frankly, this whole CPAC thing has been nothing but a litany of complaining. It’s like a right wing whine fest.

301 jaunte  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:47:05pm

That balanced budget amendment has worked so well to keep Texas pretend-solvent.

302 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:47:13pm

re: #299 recusancy

He sounds and looks like Josh Brolin’s W performance.

Image: josh_brolin_is_george_bush.jpg

303 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:47:53pm

re: #300 Gus 802

OK, he’s trying to be optimistic? Frankly, this whole CPAC thing has been nothing but a litany of complaining. It’s like a right wing whine fest.

The GOP doesn’t have anything left but doom and gloom. That’s where they part ways with Reagan most noticeably.

304 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:47:59pm

Since all the people there are such fiscal conservatives, I wonder if anyone at CPAC asked Governor Perry why he didn’t address the $20Billion budget deficit in the emergency legislative session he called, but did find space on the docket for restrictive abortion-rights legislation, a voter ID bill that disenfranchises minorities, and Texas’ version of Arizona’s “Papers Please” legislation.

After all, they’re all about fiscal policy there.

305 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:48:42pm

Lemme get this straight, Perry is claiming that Washington is too big yet he thinks it’s okay for him and others who have no connection to New York to tell the people who want the mosque, sorry it can’t be built. This guy’s an idiot. He’s so typical of CPAC speakers though. Make a big deal out of “big government” but be okay with big government when it fits your interests. What a stupid hypocrite this man is.

306 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:48:45pm

re: #280 Charles

Killgore: you were talking about the fact that the US version of Google.com wasn’t showing up in the new search requests page — well, it wasn’t because we aren’t getting hits from Google, it’s because one of the filters that screens for search results was not behaving properly.

Google now shows up fine. There are actually a LOT of hits from Google; I had to reset the list, so it will take a little while to fill up again.

Good news.

308 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:51:41pm

re: #294 recusancy

Obama’s remarks on Egypt for those that missed it:

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com…]

Thanks for post this. I’m listening to it right now…and am reminded yet again how glad I am that Obama is our president during these times rather than any of the nutcases like those being showcased at CPAC.

309 Winny Spencer  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:51:46pm

re: #288 Jadespring

RP is just incorrigibly stupid. I can’t think of anyone with less gravitas when it comes to foreign policy.

310 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:52:25pm

re: #309 Winny Spencer

RP is just incorrigibly stupid. I can’t think of anyone with less gravitas when it comes to foreign policy.

Sarah Palin.

311 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:52:45pm

re: #309 Winny Spencer

RP is just incorrigibly stupid. I can’t think of anyone with less gravitas when it comes to foreign policy.

Yep, as I said, he’s another Robert Taft, and he openlly admires Taft who famously opposed the Nuremberg trials.

312 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:54:05pm

re: #309 Winny Spencer

RP is just incorrigibly stupid. I can’t think of anyone with less gravitas when it comes to foreign policy.

It’s not gravitas he lacks, it’s a sense of reality and our place in it.

313 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:54:32pm

re: #309 Winny Spencer

RP is just incorrigibly stupid. I can’t think of anyone with less gravitas when it comes to foreign policy.

Oh I could think of a whole list of dozens but I suppose that’s beside the point.

314 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:54:39pm

Someone new coming up…

Let me guess…God; Ronald Reagan; American exceptionalism; Ronald Reagan; balanced budget; Ronald Reagan; Mexico; Ronald Reagan; Obamacare™ ; big government!!11ty; Ronald Reagan!

315 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:54:50pm

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Yep, as I said, he’s another Robert Taft, and he openlly admires Taft who famously opposed the Nuremberg trials.

There neither enough faces nor enough palms for this.

316 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:55:25pm

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Yep, as I said, he’s another Robert Taft, and he openlly admires Taft who famously opposed the Nuremberg trials.

Booo.

/watching too much CPAC

317 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:55:46pm

re: #314 Gus 802

Someone new coming up…

Let me guess…God; Ronald Reagan; American exceptionalism; Ronald Reagan; balanced budget; Ronald Reagan; Mexico; Ronald Reagan; Obamacare™ ; big government!!11ty; Ronald Reagan!

You could be a speech writer!

318 RadicalModerate  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:56:00pm

Wow, this won’t sit well with the rightwing talking points. That big Republican wave of support that they have been crowing about?

Gone.

Latest polling has “generic” congressional Democrats polling ahead of Republicans for the first time in several months - an eleven point shift since the November elections.

GOP Honeymoon over

Beyond Boehner’s numbers the most amazing thing on our poll this week is that not only are Democrats back ahead on the generic Congressional ballot by a 45-41 margin, but they’re ahead by a 38-31 margin with independents! That’s a quite change from what we saw over the course of 2009 and 2010. The four point lead for Democrats on the generic ballot represents an 11 point shift from the November elections and there were more than 40 districts that Democrats lost by that margin or less so if we went to the polls today under the current district configuration it’s entirely possible Democrats would get their House majority right back. Of course redistricting will give Republicans some opportunities to shore things up for themselves but at any rate the honeymoon, such as it ever was, looks to be over.

319 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:57:29pm

Huckabee: “The Israelites” Are Upset That Obama Did Not Stand With Mubarak

no word on what the moabites and edomites think

320 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:57:29pm

What’s strange is that our current foreign policy has gotten us into trouble. It’s not like there’s been an outbreak of war and such. But these conservatives talk as though there’s been an outbreak of war due to Obama’s policies.

321 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:58:29pm

Herman Cain up next. They love this guy on Redstate….

322 tomg51spence  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:58:37pm

Did any of the “American Exceptionalism” speakers mention that it is our laws (property rights, licenses to practice, equal opportunity, defense of property, limited governmental controls), their enforcement (rather equally to all, taxation not graft, honest public servants, etc), and a relatively healthy infrastructure (clean water to drink, contained sewage, public mail that generally works, access to health care, neighbors that are not usually desparate or wicked, etc), that allows Americans the opportunity to and the belief that they can do exceptional things?
Not that we are genetically better. Just fortunate.
And hopefully wise enough to provide the same advantages to our descendants, and to others, as possible.
Just Wondering. I haven’t been able to listen.

Thanks.

323 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 1:59:14pm

Right. Herman Cain grew up poor…

Cain was born and raised in Georgia by working class parents. He earned a bachelor’s degree in Mathematics at Morehouse College in 1967, and a master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University.

324 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:01:38pm

Herman Cain is such a salesman.

325 recusancy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:01:51pm

re: #308 Sionainn

Thanks for post this. I’m listening to it right now…and am reminded yet again how glad I am that Obama is our president during these times rather than any of the nutcases like those being showcased at CPAC.

Obama: “This is the power of human dignity and it can never be denied. The Egyptians have inspired us and they’ve done so by putting the lie to the idea that justice is best gained through violence.”

It refutes Bin Laden and Bush at the same time.

326 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:02:23pm

re: #322 tomg51spence

No, those things are irrelevant. It is God’s Grace that makes us a Great Nation, and we will remain in His Grace only as long as our laws reflect His Will: no gay marriage, no abortions, no government meddling in the Free Market (remember, outward wealth = inner Grace) and prayer in our public schools.

The only infrastucture people need is a church that they can get to in their SUV.

/

327 jaunte  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:02:33pm

re: #322 tomg51spence

The message so far seems to be that we should be free from taxes and big government supervision, and then everything will be better.

328 AlexRogan  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:03:06pm

re: #319 engineer dog

Huckabee: “The Israelites” Are Upset That Obama Did Not Stand With Mubarak

no word on what the moabites and edomites think

What do Huckabee and the hardcore wingnuts have in common with Dinnerjacket and the Iranian wingnuts?

They all want to see Israel obliterated to usher in their respective visions of Armegeddon…they all suck.

329 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:04:16pm

All profits are good. All taxes are bad. And all the more evil when they cut into profits. There is nothing the private sector cannot do better.

And there would be less crime if everybody owned a gun and was trained to use it.

Amen.

/

330 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:04:52pm

re: #2 zora

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com…]

“Parents should be warned and frankly the authorities at CPAC should be told that there are minor age students who need to be looked after and protected. Have the Radical Homosexuals really infiltrated that deeply into what used to be a pro-family movement? Has the leadership of CPAC gone so far as to actually not read anything or think it’s just “political opinion” propagated by old fashioned and outdated leaders that adult homosexual predators exist? Well, they DO exist and they are taking advantage of the alcohol parties at CPAC to poison the minds and pollute the bodies of young conservatives who are still too naïve to know what is being done to them,” - Eugene Delgaudio, President of the Public Advocate of the U.S., warning about GOProud in a fundraising email.

hide yo kids. the gays are at cpac. /

Jesus wept.

Yes, schmuck, adult homosexual predators exist. FAR MORE adult heterosexual predators exist.

331 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:05:11pm

Beck just had a rant about the left’s criticism of the Bush Iraq mission accomplished banner. You see, he found a picture of a protester in the square with a Mission Accomplished banner. Soooo-

332 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:05:12pm

re: #322 tomg51spence

that allows Americans the opportunity to and the belief that they can do exceptional things?

Actually, most of the things you mention were not here in the USA at the beginning & we established a pretty free country at the start by means of character and effort.

333 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:06:23pm

Big government. Let’s see. Which party:

A. Invaded Iraq
B. Called for nation building in Iraq
C. Created the Patriot Act
D. Created the Department of Homeland Security
E. Created TARP
F. Calls for the repeal of Roe v. Wade
G. Opposes gay marriage

334 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:06:45pm

re: #332 Ojoe

Actually, most of the things you mention were not here in the USA at the beginning & we established a pretty free country at the start by means of character and effort.


We had a functioning system of laws.

335 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:07:57pm

re: #333 Gus 802

Big government. Let’s see. Which party:

A. Invaded Iraq
B. Called for nation building in Iraq
C. Created the Patriot Act
D. Created the Department of Homeland Security
E. Created TARP
F. Calls for the repeal of Roe v. Wade
G. Opposes gay marriage

But Reagan! Small Taxes! It’s not just opposing gay marriage, it’s the same party that called for a federal amendment to ban gay marriage to the constitution because gay marriage offends their religious beliefs. Their claims of being for small government are a joke. Oh and you forgot, what party began to take the “war” part on war on drugs very literally.

336 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:08:08pm

re: #334 ralphieboy

Yes, going back to the common law of England & the Magna Carta & all that.

There has been a long development.

337 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:08:23pm

re: #3 Gus 802

Here we go. Orrin Hatch has his wingnut hat on.

And they’re still going to primary him next time he’s up for re-election. The Tea Party have tagged him as an unreliable conservative and a target for the next round.

338 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:08:27pm

re: #334 ralphieboy

We had a functioning system of laws.

English Common Law, with a Constitution written to cap-stone the whole thing influenced by revolutionary enlightenment philosophy.

339 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:08:44pm

re: #331 avanti

Beck just had a rant about the left’s criticism of the Bush Iraq mission accomplished banner. You see, he found a picture of a protester in the square with a Mission Accomplished banner. Sooo-

Beck is in an alternate universe. I watch and I don’t get it.

His ultimate conspiracy is un frikken real


It like some sort of weird surrealist art….


But he’s serious.

340 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:18pm

re: #19 dragonfire1981

The second wave of the 9/11 attacks??

In the words of Stan Marsh: That’s pretty fucked up right there.

However, in light of that, it’s sort of interesting that they invited the Raufs. I mean, did CPAC ever invite Bin Laden to one of their events?

341 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:24pm

re: #319 engineer dog

Huckabee: “The Israelites” Are Upset That Obama Did Not Stand With Mubarak

no word on what the moabites and edomites think

The Cenobites are not amused.

342 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:41pm

Liberals fault.

343 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:43pm

motherjones.com

NYC Mosque Foe Pam Geller On Egypt: Bad for Freedom

“We are witnessing a complete seismic shift in the direction of the world away from freedom,” Geller said. When I asked her about Glenn Beck’s theory that “uber-leftists” and Islamic extremists could be plotting to from a new Islamic caliphate, she told me that those “are justifiable fears. An earthquake has occurred in the Middle East.” She added, “These are catastrophic events over which we have no control.”

weapons grade crazy.

344 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:47pm

re: #339 Jadespring

Beck is in an alternate universe. I watch and I don’t get it.

His ultimate conspiracy is un frikken real

It like some sort of weird surrealist art…

But he’s serious.

He’s just connecting this willy nilly.

Guy in Los Angeles speaking at rally….to Egypt….

345 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:47pm

re: #284 Charles

Rick Perry is a buffoon. Does he always talk like that or is he exaggerating the hick accent for the CPAC crowd?

Both. He talks like that, but he’s been known to boost the accent here, too, just to boost his redneck bonafides with the loons in East Texas.

346 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:09:54pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anime is the second Pearl Harbor meant to crush America under the heel of the new Shogunate.

I’m not entirely sure that’s not true.

347 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:10:18pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

It’s not gravitas he lacks, it’s a sense of reality and our place in it.

Since gravitas sounds scientific I pretty sure he has intelligent sucking, and doesn’t know or care that is it different…

348 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:10:29pm

Uh. World order Mr. Cain? New world order is a necon construct genius. It was popularized by GWB.

349 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:10:38pm

re: #336 Ojoe

Yes, going back to the common law of England & the Magna Carta & all that.

There has been a long development.

Yes, and there can be no truly free market without a solid legal and regulatory infrastructure.

But it is most often the advocates of “free trade” who are bent on abolishing laws and regulations in the name of…well, “free trade”.

350 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:10:56pm

Socialist communists extreme Islamist —working together.

Now using Dinnerjacket words as proof.

351 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:11:27pm

re: #343 zora

weapons grade crazy.

She’s been weapons grade crazy for years. I’m not surprised she believes Glenn Beck’s caliphate idiocy.

352 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:12:04pm

Hmmm…

Today’s DOW
12,273.26
+43.97 (0.36%)

353 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:12:33pm

re: #29 tradewind

The free world had better hope that our current president continues his Reagan-as-muse mode now and sends advisors and help to Egypt stat, a’la Reagan post Berlin Wall, rather than sitting around twiddling thumbs and sending nothing and no one a’ la Jimmy Carter.
Compare and contrast results.

I would if I had the slightest idea what the hell you’re talking about. Parallels do not compute.

354 recusancy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:12:40pm

re: #351 Lidane

She’s been weapons grade crazy for years. I’m not surprised she believes Glenn Beck’s caliphate idiocy.

I used to think she was a spoof like 6 years ago.

355 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:13:02pm

Complain, complain, complain.

356 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:13:04pm

re: #351 Lidane

She’s been weapons grade crazy for years. I’m not surprised she believes Glenn Beck’s caliphate idiocy.

You should watch him right now. It’s unreal.

357 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:13:10pm

re: #349 ralphieboy

Adam Smith said, IIRC and in so many words, that Capitalism would not work unless it were supported all along by a basic morality.

358 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:14:19pm

Palin makes a CPAC appearance/


Palin

359 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:14:22pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

The Cenobites are not amused.

The trilobites are also quite stone-faced about this as well.

360 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:14:33pm

These people are pathetic. If the Egyptians had been ruled by a Communist leader and taken to the streets, they’d be celebrating them.

361 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:14:38pm

re: #356 Jadespring

You should watch him right now. It’s unreal.

I’d rather eat glass than watch him. I’ve tried sitting through his show before, and could literally feel my IQ dropping with each word out of his mouth. More power to anyone who can suffer through all his idiocy while sober. I couldn’t do it.

362 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:14:51pm

Awesome….Google has been added to the Beckian conspiracy now.

FACEBOOK! OMG look, look

363 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:15:04pm

re: #351 Lidane

She’s been weapons grade crazy for years. I’m not surprised she believes Glenn Beck’s caliphate idiocy.

Beck might have learned about it from Geller and Spencer.

364 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:15:09pm

Patriots for opposing Obama!

…and traitors for opposing Bush.

Yawn. They’re so predictable.

365 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:15:24pm

re: #357 Ojoe

Adam Smith said, IIRC and in so many words, that Capitalism would not work unless it were supported all along by a basic morality.

My favorite quote from the so-called “Grandfather of the Free Market” is:

“Markets are there to serve the people, people are not there to serve the markets”.

As soon as the Free Market becomes an ideology, there are cynical bastards everywhere who are more than willing to sacrifice entire populations to feed the greed of the market.

366 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:15:30pm

re: #78 iceweasel

that’s gonna hurt!

I wonder when the GOP will get around to running Zombie Reagan.

It doesn’t say in the Constitution that the President has to be living, but the third term could be an issue.

367 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:15:47pm

re: #361 Lidane

I’d rather eat glass than watch him. I’ve tried sitting through his show before, and could literally feel my IQ dropping with each word out of his mouth. More power to anyone who can suffer through all his idiocy while sober. I couldn’t do it.

I never watch him but this is too good. I’m just pretending I’m watching the Daily show. Comedy!

368 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:15:53pm

re: #358 avanti

She’s too smart to go to CPAC. Gotta give her that.

369 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:16:10pm

re: #357 Ojoe

Adam Smith said, IIRC and in so many words, that Capitalism would not work unless it were supported all along by a basic morality.

I think the problem with the concept of capitalism, as it is generally discussed in politics today, is that it is often invoked as it it were equivalent to trade in the private sector, and functioning markets.

Just about every country in the world has functioning markets. That doesn’t mean that pure capitalism is a good idea.

370 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:16:16pm

re: #360 HappyWarrior

These people are pathetic. If the Egyptians had been ruled by a Communist leader and taken to the streets, they’d be celebrating them.

I suspect they would prefer even communism to Islamism at this point…

371 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:16:29pm

re: #363 wrenchwench

Beck might have learned about it from Geller and Spencer.

Good point. I don’t read Crazy Pam or Robert Spencer, but it wouldn’t shock me at all if they came up with the idea first and Beck just ran with it.

372 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:16:35pm

re: #368 Ojoe

She’s too smart to go to CPAC. Gotta give her that.

I wish you were joking….

373 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:17:15pm

re: #371 Lidane

Good point. I don’t read Crazy Pam or Robert Spencer, but it wouldn’t shock me at all if they came up with the idea first and Beck just ran with it.

Spencer is all about the coming caliphate. Geller learned it from him, I’m pretty sure.

374 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:18:02pm

re: #372 wrenchwench

Well she didn’t go there …

375 bratwurst  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:20:17pm

re: #362 Jadespring

Awesome…Google has been added to the Beckian conspiracy now.

FACEBOOK! OMG look, look

Rush didn’t say the word “caliphate”, but he did make clear early in his show today that he is 100% on board with the ridiculous concept of communists organizing the protests in Egypt. He even went so far as to suggest that the protesters were nothing more than a left wing rent-a-mob!

376 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:21:01pm

re: #374 Ojoe

Well she didn’t go there …

Do you really think it’s because she’s “too smart” to go? Then why all the other dumb things? Her talk at the Reagan birthday bash was sponsored by the Young America’s Foundation. They’re pretty nasty in their own right.

377 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:21:07pm

re: #362 Jadespring

Awesome…Google has been added to the Beckian conspiracy now.

FACEBOOK! OMG look, look

OMG, Facebook is now evil too ? Maybe there is a Soros connection/ Maybe the net itself is EVIL !!!

378 recusancy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:21:46pm

re: #377 avanti

OMG, Facebook is now evil too ? Maybe there is a Soros connection/ Maybe the net itself is EVIL !!!

It was invented by Jews remember.

379 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:22:53pm

re: #375 bratwurst

Rush didn’t say the word “caliphate”, but he did make clear early in his show today that he is 100% on board with the ridiculous concept of communists organizing the protests in Egypt. He even went so far as to suggest that the protesters were nothing more than a left wing rent-a-mob!

Yeah, because the people in Egypt were all hunky-dory with Mubarak and didn’t have any reason at all to want him gone. Only commies and rent-a-crowds would think to protest.

380 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:22:54pm

Is Beck seriously whining about facebook?!?!?! Hahaha seriously, maybe this isn’t the most sensitive thing to say since he’s a recovering alcoholic but have a frigging beer Glenn, you’ll be a lot happier!

381 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:23:22pm

re: #375 bratwurst

Rush didn’t say the word “caliphate”, but he did make clear early in his show today that he is 100% on board with the ridiculous concept of communists organizing the protests in Egypt. He even went so far as to suggest that the protesters were nothing more than a left wing rent-a-mob!

Wow, that’s a big ass rant-a-mob.

382 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:24:25pm

Oh brother. God. God. God. God. God. God. God.

383 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:24:41pm

re: #377 avanti

OMG, Facebook is now evil too ? Maybe there is a Soros connection/ Maybe the net itself is EVIL !!!

On that note, I’m going to see the author of The Facebook Effect speak this Monday. Should be interesting.

384 bratwurst  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:24:45pm

re: #381 avanti

Wow, that’s a big ass rant-a-mob.

Ok, to be fair he DID say that he was certain there were “a few” protesters with legitimate grievances. Yes, he really said that.

385 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:24:59pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Oh brother. God. God. God. God. God. God. God.

Watching Herman Cain?

386 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:25:14pm

re: #385 Alexzander

Watching Herman Cain?

Yes.

387 tomg51spence  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:25:24pm

Thanks for the feed back.

388 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:26:04pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Is Beck seriously whining about facebook?!?!?! Hahaha seriously, maybe this isn’t the most sensitive thing to say since he’s a recovering alcoholic but have a frigging beer Glenn, you’ll be a lot happier!

Yep, you see, Facebook is involved with the changing the world thing that Obama talked about in his campaign and you know that’s a code phrase for a Commie/Nazi/Islamic takeover.

389 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:26:22pm

Just got back from tabling for Israel in Berkeley, where a very hysterical young man informed us how scared we ‘Zionists’ should be of the democracy emerging in Egypt.

SSDD.

390 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:26:44pm

I don’t get it. First the people on the streets are all Egyptian Brotherhood members and now they’re all Communists? Are they forgetting that Communists and Islamists aren’t exactly friends. Shit, can’t speak about Iran but I know for a fact that Saddam Hussein’s regime persecuted the Iraqi Communist Party.

391 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:27:05pm

re: #386 Gus 802

Yes.

I kinda hope he gathers steam because I think he’s an aweful national candidate. He’s never held office before, and all of his speeches would fit in at some self-help /personal story / inspiration event.

392 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:28:00pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

I don’t get it. First the people on the streets are all Egyptian Brotherhood members and now they’re all Communists? Are they forgetting that Communists and Islamists aren’t exactly friends. Shit, can’t speak about Iran but I know for a fact that Saddam Hussein’s regime persecuted the Iraqi Communist Party.

Not to mention that Saddam wasn’t an Islamist himself.

But there’s always too many moving parts in the Middle East, so people edit to get the version that supports their own narrative.

393 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:28:21pm

re: #382 Gus 802

Oh brother. God. God. God. God. God. God. God.

what do you think? is cain plausible enough to be a threat, or is he teh kookoos nutzoid?

394 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:28:46pm

re: #391 Alexzander

I kinda hope he gathers steam because I think he’s an aweful national candidate. He’s never held office before, and all of his speeches would fit in at some self-help /personal story / inspiration event.

Just another litany of cliches packaged in a good radio voice. He didn’t stray from the narrative. Said essentially the same thing everyone else already said but with a few different nuances.

395 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:29:09pm

re: #383 Lidane

On that note, I’m going to see the author of The Facebook Effect speak this Monday. Should be interesting.

Wait until the Egyptian Google guy his dream meeting with Facebooks founder Mark Zerkerburg, the conspiracy will be complete in Becks head.

396 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:29:36pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Are they forgetting that Communists and Islamists aren’t exactly friends.

Pfft. As if that matters.

Limbaugh, Beck, and all the other howler monkeys on the right don’t give a shit that Islamists and Communists would hate each other and be ideological opposites. They’re aiming for the people who still can’t adapt to life after the Cold War, and who are still looking for commies under the bed.

397 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:29:44pm

re: #392 SanFranciscoZionist

Not to mention that Saddam wasn’t an Islamist himself.

But there’s always too many moving parts in the Middle East, so people edit to get the version that supports their own narrative.

Oh, yeah I know he wasn’t. Guess my point is that Islamist movement and Communists aren’t exactly buddy-buddy like Crazy Glenn will have his viewers believe.

398 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:30:00pm

re: #393 engineer dog

what do you think? is cain plausible enough to be a threat, or is he teh kookoos nutzoid?

Zero threat. He’s more of (another) muscle head radio personality.

399 bratwurst  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:30:42pm

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

400 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:31:32pm

Holy juxtaposition of headlines batman:

MSNBC: GOP Leader : ‘Stop Radical Islam in Egypt’

CNN: Obama : ‘The people of Egypt have spoken’

So while the admin shows support for the people, the GOP is more concerned that the People may be damn dirty islamists.

401 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:31:40pm

Has Cain been even so much as nominated anywhere let alone won anywhere?I love this though. RedState whom I am told likes Cain probably no doubt made some cracks about Obama being inexperienced a few years ago as a one term senator and dreaded community organizer but now Erikson and friends are pimping up Cain who’s never been elected anywhere. Nice logic dumbasses.

402 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:31:58pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

Someone please remind Glenn Beck of the history of Christianity over the centuries.

403 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:32:02pm

Beck stuff. LOL

Socialist communist extremist islam and community organizers eg THE GOOGLE GUY


THE GOOGLE GUY IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER— it’s imperative that you understand how this community organizing works.

“Community organizing is the key. These countries have the Muslim Brotherhood. Google executive admits that he’s putting it altogether. The most important aspect to understand is that this is not spontaneous and it will cascade throughout the middle east. I hope to God not but I bet it touches Europe and then the world. It will not have a singular ideology but it will mean revolution, destruction and change. And it will be led by young people (said in an ominous tone) because anyone over thirty knows that chaos doesn’t usually lead any place good.

Take the President at his election promise. Here he is on the campaign trail. —-clip Obama “If you’ll stand with me. And fight by my side. And cast your ballot for me I will promise you this. We will not just win Missouri, we will win the general election and together we will change this country and change the world.——

We’re changing the world and you are being intentionally mislead. It shows the bias people have. Yes tehre is a dictator out of power but what are we trading it for. They are ignoring any possible threat to what Egypt may turn into, they are constantly on the look out for Tea Party rhetoric and violence except they won’t look into violent rhetoric and ACTUAL calls for violence and revolution in America. (ppoints to a bunch of picture on a blackboard). It doesn’t make sense. But it does if you know who is running our intelligence community….”

404 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:32:41pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

Execute all the members of the religion? That should be enough to get him yanked off the tube. Probably still good for the radio, though.

405 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:32:41pm

This is strange….
What We’re Watching

There’s a very important and rather bizarre story out of Wisconsin today. And one we’re going to be watching closely. New Gov. Scott Walker (R) is proposing stripping all government workers of their collective bargaining rights. And to add a weirdly Mubarak-like angle to it he’s now flaunting the fact that he’s put the state national guard on alert in case there is labor unrest in response to the loss of collective bargaining rights.

406 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:33:02pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

Well, I wonder what he thinks about what Oliver Cromwell did to the Irish Catholics in the name of Christianity. Perhaps we should put Protestants in jail too!

407 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:33:24pm

I think I had my fill of wingnuttery for the day. I can’t take anymore!

408 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:34:48pm

re: #403 Jadespring

ALINSKYYY!!!111!!!

409 Alexzander  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:34:57pm

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Has Cain been even so much as nominated anywhere let alone won anywhere?I love this though. RedState whom I am told likes Cain probably no doubt made some cracks about Obama being inexperienced a few years ago as a one term senator and dreaded community organizer but now Erikson and friends are pimping up Cain who’s never been elected anywhere. Nice logic dumbasses.

Thats part of why I enjoy it too. Cain’s never held office. He is PAID to give pretty speeches for a living. The hypocrisy comes full circle.

410 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:35:05pm

re: #403 Jadespring

re: #405 Killgore Trout

This is strange…
What We’re Watching

Wow. Just…wow. I can’t come up with anything else to say to that.

411 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:36:40pm

re: #407 Gus 802

I think I had my fill of wingnuttery for the day century. I can’t take anymore!

FTFY

412 Kragar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:37:47pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

Um…what?

413 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:38:25pm

Okay that was enough word for word transcribing…

After that commerical he goes on to show Clappper and make fun of intelligence and then says that just in case they are watching HE will tell them what’s going on. Blah blahs about Johnny Depp and Susan Surandon and then goes on rant about multiculturlaism and Europe.

414 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:38:44pm

re: #409 Alexzander

Thats part of why I enjoy it too. Cain’s never held office. He is PAID to give pretty speeches for a living. The hypocrisy comes full circle.

But Obama, teleprompter ;)!
Yeah you’re absolutely right about this part. To be honest, I actually didn’t take much issue with Palin’s experience level a couple years ago, my problem was and still is with her knowledge of hte issues. The funniest part for me though was people who defended her- “She’s the governor of the biggest state of the union.” They’re technically right- Alaska is landwise the biggest state in the US but economywise it’s liberal estimate bottom ten size.

415 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:41:05pm

Just read Obama’s speech regarding todays events, pretty good stuff.

416 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:41:12pm

Need a break. Back sooner or later.

417 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:43:01pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

Yep just got to that part. Then goes on to Islam in America. We have an Islamic school—-a govt arm of Saudi Arabia.

418 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:44:21pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

oh it’s going to be a hell of an election season

419 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:45:12pm

re: #410 Lidane

re: #405 Killgore Trout

Wow. Just…wow. I can’t come up with anything else to say to that.

huh. Man, what the fuck is going on in our country?

420 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:45:52pm

re: #399 bratwurst

Beck: “If your religion is killing people, we need to shut you down, put you in jail…or execute you.”

Yes, he REALLY just said this.

George Tiller

421 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:46:07pm

Hey everyone. I was thrilled when I heard Mubarak fell between classes. Anyway, I was hearing that the next three to watch are Algeria, Yemen, and Jordan. Of them, Yemen and Algeria have had a miserable history since independence.

Part of Yemen was occupied by Egypt during the North Yemen Civil War in the 1960’s, with the conflict overall killing somewhere between 100k-150k. When North and South Yemen unified in the 90’s another war broke out, killing a further 7,000 to 10,000. As of right now, there are three civil conflicts racking that nation, having killed at least 6,300 people.

Algeria’s history is about as miserable. Their war of independence from France killed 1 million people. Then, in mid-90’s another war started as a response to the nullification of a election Islamists won. That Civil War killed 150k-200k people. Since the war’s end in 2002, their has been an insurgency which has killed thousands more.

422 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:46:17pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

huh. Man, what the fuck is going on in our country?

The abyss is staring back.

423 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:47:10pm

re: #405 Killgore Trout

This is strange…
What We’re Watching

The comments are pretty good.

“shut up and get back to your oars!”

424 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:48:43pm

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Has Cain been even so much as nominated anywhere let alone won anywhere?I love this though. RedState whom I am told likes Cain probably no doubt made some cracks about Obama being inexperienced a few years ago as a one term senator and dreaded community organizer but now Erikson and friends are pimping up Cain who’s never been elected anywhere. Nice logic dumbasses.

his “qualifications” derive from the wingnut presupposition that government should be run like a business

they never stop to think of how stupid this presumption is. for starters, i recall very vividly the day that a vice president of human resources said to me “a coporation is not a democracy”

425 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:49:13pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

Man, what the fuck is going on in our country?

Black guy with an African name got elected POTUS. Middle class and rich white people flipped their shit.

426 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:49:30pm

All I can say after taking the time to actually watch Beck and his ravings I feel really bad for the people who are being taken in and believe this shit. I know it’s a choice and all but it must be a really, really scary headspace to live your life in.

427 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:51:39pm

re: #2 zora

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com…]

“Parents should be warned and frankly the authorities at CPAC should be told that there are minor age students who need to be looked after and protected. Have the Radical Homosexuals really infiltrated that deeply into what used to be a pro-family movement? Has the leadership of CPAC gone so far as to actually not read anything or think it’s just “political opinion” propagated by old fashioned and outdated leaders that adult homosexual predators exist? Well, they DO exist and they are taking advantage of the alcohol parties at CPAC to poison the minds and pollute the bodies of young conservatives who are still too naïve to know what is being done to them,” - Eugene Delgaudio, President of the Public Advocate of the U.S., warning about GOProud in a fundraising email.

hide yo kids. the gays are at cpac. /

The alcohol parties! The kids, they’ve got zipguns! Jerry’s on the march! Fetch me a phosphate from the druggist!

428 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:52:04pm

re: #426 Jadespring

All I can say after taking the time to actually watch Beck and his ravings I feel really bad for the people who are being taken in and believe this shit. I know it’s a choice and all but it must be a really, really scary headspace to live your life in.

I feel bad for our country that we have such an uneducated populace :(

429 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:52:05pm

re: #424 engineer dog

his “qualifications” derive from the wingnut presupposition that government should be run like a business

they never stop to think of how stupid this presumption is. for starters, i recall very vividly the day that a vice president of human resources said to me “a coporation is not a democracy”

I have noticed that. Though that said, I did wonder about the winguts I knew who loved Fred Thompson (no executive business experience that I know of) suddenly being concerned about exec experience when Obama was nominated.

430 Baier  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:52:37pm

re: #426 Jadespring

Don’t feel bad for them. They won’t feel bad when they stomp your face on the curb.

431 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:52:38pm

re: #424 engineer dog

his “qualifications” derive from the wingnut presupposition that government should be run like a business

they never stop to think of how stupid this presumption is. for starters, i recall very vividly the day that a vice president of human resources said to me “a coporation is not a democracy”

But…but…free markets solve everything!!!11ty!!1!1!

/wingnut

432 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:52:39pm

re: #422 Jadespring

The abyss is staring back.

Isn’t that the truth. o_o

433 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:53:06pm

re: #430 Baier

Don’t feel bad for them. They won’t feel bad when they stomp your face on the curb.

I just elect not to visit places full of people who watch that stuff, it’s God’s way of saying go away

434 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:53:28pm

re: #428 WindUpBird

I feel bad for our country that we have such an uneducated populace :(

And these assholes want to make us dumber by manipulating textbooks and pushing things like science and reason out of the classroom. It’s infuriating.

435 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:54:25pm

re: #425 Lidane

Black guy with an African name got elected POTUS. Middle class and rich white people flipped their shit.

I never thought I’d see a governor openly relishing sic-ing the military on state workers, but this is the bestial nature of people, good times

436 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:54:30pm

re: #430 Baier

Don’t feel bad for them. They won’t feel bad when they stomp your face on the curb.

I really don’t like to think that way.

Suffice it to say though if it did come to actual stomping my stomp is much harder and more powerful.

437 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:54:53pm

re: #434 Lidane

And these assholes want to make us dumber by manipulating textbooks and pushing things like science and reason out of the classroom. It’s infuriating.

TEXASSSSS YEE HAW

438 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:56:45pm

re: #435 WindUpBird

I never thought I’d see a governor openly relishing sic-ing the military on state workers, but this is the bestial nature of people, good times

I’ve seen it. Well at least gov’t officials talking military to go against people. Yep yep up here in peaceful Canada.
It wasn’t a good thing to experience.

439 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:56:58pm

re: #437 WindUpBird

TEXASSS YEE HAW

You should see the uproar going on here in Austin right now with the local school district threatening to close a bunch of schools to save money due to the state budget shortfall. People are pissed.

At the same time, our idiot governor and Republican legislature are more concerned with passing an “emergency” abortion bill or some such nonsense. Ugh.

440 Baier  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:57:01pm

re: #436 Jadespring

Ignorance is a choice, stupidity is not.

441 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:58:07pm

re: #425 Lidane

Black guy with an African name got elected POTUS. Middle class and rich white people flipped their shit.

Along those lines, news related to CPAC:

Tom Tancredo: Muslim Immigrants Spread Sharia Law

But former Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo upped the ante even further. Speaking to Mother Jones on Friday after his CPAC speech, he warned that Muslim immigrants would never be able to assimilate and posed a perilous threat by bringing Sharia law to America:

[…] Then you got the issue of Muslim immigration. In every other case I’ve described, you can assimilate. If you come here as an atheist or a Christian or a Jew or a Hindu—there’s no inherent…conflict between that person and what it means to be an American, because the Constitution is the kind of document that wraps up all up.

But what do you do with people coming for the purpose of advancing sharia law, which is not compatible in any way with the constitution of the United States? How do you deal with that? That’s another very scary thing because demographically the numbers are on their side.

Tancredo’s warnings echoed recent efforts by right-wingers to ban sharia law in states like Oklahoma, and he drove home the link between immigrants, deadly crime, and terrorism in his CPAC speech as well—going so far as to equate open borders with treason. “Plenty of people coming across that border want to do very bad things to us—we know it’s been an entry point for terrorists. Why would that not be a cause for impeachment? I think it’s treasonous to not secure your border,” he told the crowd, to wild applause. Tancredo also denounced multiculturalism and ethnic enclaves as “the dagger pointed at the heart of Western civilization.”

Asked whether President Obama was encouraging such freedom-crushing Muslim separatism, Tancredo told Mother Jones, “Yeah, I certainly believe [it].” He also agreed that Obama shared his Kenyan father’s anti-colonial views—a theory originally promulgated by conservative writer Dinesh D’Souza.

To prove his point, Tancredo pointed to a bust of Winston Churchill on loan to the White House during the Bush years that the Obama adminstration returned to the British embassy. “Remember that bust of Winston Churchill? They sent this bust back to the British…because [Obama] considers them to be colonial powers. These are our best allies, you know.” (Tancredo also told reporters that in Egypt, Obama’s “schizophrenic” positions had increased the threat to the US. “No matter what happens now, we lose. No matter what, whether Mubarak steps down, whether he stays… ElBaradei’s worse.”)

[…]

442 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:58:24pm

re: #439 Lidane

You should see the uproar going on here in Austin right now with the local school district threatening to close a bunch of schools to save money due to the state budget shortfall. People are pissed.

At the same time, our idiot governor and Republican legislature are more concerned with passing an “emergency” abortion bill or some such nonsense. Ugh.

Oh I bet *_*

You got the brain trust and the tech industry and the music scene there, all these smart people, they must be livid

443 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:58:35pm

Jamie Allman Interviews Pam Geller @ CPAC 2011

Youtube Video

She thinks CPAC is helping to build the Ground Zero Mega Mosque

444 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:58:44pm

re: #441 freetoken

Tom tancredo, sheetwearer

445 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:59:53pm

2011 CPAC Blogger of the Year Award

Youtube Video

And the award goes to………

446 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:01:14pm

It all just seems so desperate to me. re: #441 freetoken

Along those lines, news related to CPAC:

Tom Tancredo: Muslim Immigrants Spread Sharia Law

Tancredo’s warnings echoed recent efforts by right-wingers to ban sharia law in states like Oklahoma, and he drove home the link between immigrants, deadly crime, and terrorism in his CPAC speech as well—going so far as to equate open borders with treason. “Plenty of people coming across that border want to do very bad things to us—we know it’s been an entry point for terrorists. Why would that not be a cause for impeachment? I think it’s treasonous to not secure your border,” he told the crowd, to wild applause. Tancredo also denounced multiculturalism and ethnic enclaves as “the dagger pointed at the heart of Western civilization.”

Asked whether President Obama was encouraging such freedom-crushing Muslim separatism, Tancredo told Mother Jones, “Yeah, I certainly believe [it].” He also agreed that Obama shared his Kenyan father’s anti-colonial views—a theory originally promulgated by conservative writer Dinesh D’Souza.

To prove his point, Tancredo pointed to a bust of Winston Churchill on loan to the White House during the Bush years that the Obama adminstration returned to the British embassy. “Remember that bust of Winston Churchill? They sent this bust back to the British…because [Obama] considers them to be colonial powers. These are our best allies, you know.” (Tancredo also told reporters that in Egypt, Obama’s “schizophrenic” positions had increased the threat to the US. “No matter what happens now, we lose. No matter what, whether Mubarak steps down, whether he stays… ElBaradei’s worse.”)

[…]

I asked this when Dinesh D’Souza said it but what is so bad about being anti-colonial? Do Tancredo or D’Souza realize we fought for and gained our independence from the world’s greatest colonial power? Tancredo keeps on proving himself to be a racist tool. The guy is a bigot pure and simple.

447 AlexRogan  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:02:42pm

re: #435 WindUpBird

I never thought I’d see a governor openly relishing sic-ing the military on state workers, but this is the bestial nature of people, good times

I read the stories on the WI budget dealings and got the impression that the governor was talking about using the WING to help cover public safety (and other) positions in case of a general strike, not to use the WING against the strikers.

Correct me if I’m wrong…

448 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:02:49pm

re: #441 freetoken

Tom Tancredo: Muslim Immigrants Spread Sharia Law

doesn’t he know that italian immigrants spread allegiance to the pope in rome above allegiance to the american government???

////

449 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:03:07pm

re: #446 HappyWarrior


I asked this when Dinesh D’Souza said it but what is so bad about being anti-colonial? Do Tancredo or D’Souza realize we fought for and gained our independence from the world’s greatest colonial power?

Yeah, but… you know… we’re…. white Western.

450 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:03:25pm

re: #442 WindUpBird

Oh I bet *_*

You got the brain trust and the tech industry and the music scene there, all these smart people, they must be livid

Livid is putting it mildly. Folks are organizing and going to school district meetings and events to get their voices heard. I’ve seen yard signs and placards all over the place protesting the closure of one of the elementary schools in my area. It’s been around for over 60 years and has always rated highly, but it’s on the chopping block. And that’s just for one school out of the 15 or so they’re threatening to close.

I’ve been here since 1998 and have never seen anything like it.

451 AlexRogan  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:05:12pm

re: #447 talon_262

Not that it excuses the other instances of ratfucking the WI governor’s trying to do to the state employees’ union, mind you…

452 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:06:10pm

re: #449 freetoken

Yeah, but… you know… we’re… white Western.

Exactly.

It’s okay for white people to be anti-colonial, but the second anyone darker than a loaf of Wonder Bread gets anti-colonial ideas, well, we can’t have that. They might become Islamic terrorists, or commies, or worse, Islamic commies.

453 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:08:35pm

re: #445 Killgore Trout

Wow, the last couple of minutes of that is just pure “white sheet”-wearing class blatant threats.

454 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:11:13pm

re: #450 Lidane

Speaking of the school uproar here in town, apparently, the Austin ISD superintendent is going to ask the board to layoff over 1,000 people. The total workforce for the district is just over 12,000:

statesman.com

But hey…let’s focus on social issues instead. That’s a winning strategy. =P

455 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:11:32pm

re: #452 Lidane

Exactly.

It’s okay for white people to be anti-colonial, but the second anyone darker than a loaf of Wonder Bread gets anti-colonial ideas, well, we can’t have that. They might become Islamic terrorists, or commies, or worse, Islamic commies.

Or “Islamic Socialists” don’t know if it originated with Beck but he’s all over that description and I’m seeing it pop up in other places now.

456 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:11:55pm

re: #453 freetoken

Wow, the last couple of minutes of that is just pure “white sheet”-wearing class blatant threats.

I’ve never heard of the guy before but I checked his blog. I kinda doubt that the future of hispanic conservatism is going to be anti-immigration and anti-Islam.

457 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:17:10pm

re: #452 Lidane

Exactly.

It’s okay for white people to be anti-colonial, but the second anyone darker than a loaf of Wonder Bread gets anti-colonial ideas, well, we can’t have that. They might become Islamic terrorists, or commies, or worse, Islamic commies.

Well what I don’t get is that it’s D’Souza the son of Indian immigrants who originated this nonsense. I agree it’s racial but it’s just weird that D’Souza whose parents no doubt lived under British colonial rule would act like this. Honestly, I think it’s pathetic really. Obama’s detractors including him say he (Obama) is angry and taking his anger out on us. The only angry people I see are these nuts who are spreading the lies.

458 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:17:29pm

I just found something good about Beck.

After watching him for an hour and turning back to CNN he makes Blitzer seem a lot less annoying.

459 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:17:58pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

I’ve never heard of the guy before but I checked his blog. I kinda doubt that the future of hispanic conservatism is going to be anti-immigration and anti-Islam.

It’s also kinda interesting that they picked such an obscure and unknown blogger for the award. They could have picked one of the bloggers from Hot Air or one of Brietbart’s Big sites but I guess they had a hard time finding someone who isn’t pushing easily debunked conspiracy theories.

460 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:19:14pm

re: #459 Killgore Trout

It’s also kinda interesting that they picked such an obscure and unknown blogger for the award. They could have picked one of the bloggers from Hot Air or one of Brietbart’s Big sites but I guess they had a hard time finding someone who isn’t pushing easily debunked conspiracy theories.

Who was the blogger?

461 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:22:08pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

That’s because D’Souza is just an asshole. I don’t think he’s ever contributed anything of value to the political dialogue. It’s like taking Malkin seriously. It’s just not possible.

462 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:25:18pm

re: #461 Lidane

That’s because D’Souza is just an asshole. I don’t think he’s ever contributed anything of value to the political dialogue. It’s like taking Malkin seriously. It’s just not possible.

Yeah I guess my mistake is assuming these people are rational. Malkin I’ll never get why she has any credibility in any political circles after she praised internment of the Japanese, hell if you ask me, that’s one of the most valid things that one could criticize FDR for.

463 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:28:15pm
Fake Palin shows up at CPAC, confusing some onlookers

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin won’t show up at CPAC this year.
But the fake Sarah Palin did.

A woman, who looked and dressed like the famous Republican, started walking around and doing interviews. In fact, she began drawing a crowd. People requested pictures, asked questions, and expressed their support for her.
Mumbles of mixed reactions buzzed through the crowd about her legitimacy. One person said, “That’s not the real Palin,” while another said, “You bet. That is real, legitimate Palin.” Another mentioned checking her latest Twitter status to verify whether or not it was her.

But a staff member escorting the woman around confirmed that, despite her similarity, this was not the real former governor.

Given how phony the “real” Palin is, I wonder how they could tell the difference.

464 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:31:47pm

re: #455 Jadespring

Or “Islamic Socialists” don’t know if it originated with Beck but he’s all over that description and I’m seeing it pop up in other places now.

Actually,

Islamic socialism is a term coined by various Muslim leaders to meet the demand for a more spiritual form of socialism.

465 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:34:02pm

re: #464 Talking Point Detective

Actually,

Islamic socialism is a term coined by various Muslim leaders to meet the demand for a more spiritual form of socialism.

Oh okay.

They’re evil regardless and plan to take over the world and America.
Beck told me.

466 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:35:20pm

re: #464 Talking Point Detective

Actually,

Islamic socialism is a term coined by various Muslim leaders to meet the demand for a more spiritual form of socialism.

i’m sure both of its followers are very angry with mr beck

467 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:38:11pm

re: #466 engineer dog

i’m sure both of its followers are very angry with mr beck

Actually, if you read the link, it’s not that insignificant a school of thought among Muslims.

468 dog philosopher  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:41:23pm

re: #467 Talking Point Detective

Actually, if you read the link, it’s not that insignificant a school of thought among Muslims.

i am guilty of premature snarking without a license

469 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:41:58pm

re: #466 engineer dog

i’m sure both of its followers are very angry with mr beck

Please understand, I’m not saying that Beck’s “theories” are anything other than cynical attempts to profit from Tea Partier hatred of Muslims and libz.

He sees it as a two-for-one deal — build on hatred of two groups so that he can capitalize on an historic event and turn an incredibly hopeful moment into an opportunity to exploit fear.

470 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:43:06pm

re: #468 engineer dog

i am guilty of premature snarking without a license

It’s happened to the best among us.

471 Balfour Rage  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:43:12pm

re: #454 Lidane

Speaking of the school uproar here in town, apparently, the Austin ISD superintendent is going to ask the board to layoff over 1,000 people. The total workforce for the district is just over 12,000:

[Link: www.statesman.com…]

But hey…let’s focus on social issues instead. That’s a winning strategy. =P

Yep. That emergency bill on forcing women to watch sonograms before an abortion are much more important.
///

472 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:43:27pm

re: #467 Talking Point Detective

Actually, if you read the link, it’s not that insignificant a school of thought among Muslims.

If you read that link, it’s little more than the Muslim version of Liberation theology, which has been so widely accepted by the Christian church. Really. =P

Pfft. Whatever. If that’s the big ZOMG ISLAMIC SOSHULISM that people are freaking out about, it won’t go anywhere. It’s a minor viewpoint at best and one that won’t catch on, if the rejection and subsequent failure of liberation theology is anything to go by.

473 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:44:12pm

re: #421 ProLifeLiberal

Hey everyone. I was thrilled when I heard Mubarak fell between classes.


I didn’t even know he was in school.

474 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:47:34pm

I just heard some dude saying on MSNBC that Morocco could next. Wha? I’ve heard the exact opposite, that Morocco is the one nation that won’t topple over.

475 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:48:53pm

re: #474 ProLifeLiberal

I just heard some dude saying on MSNBC that Morocco could next. Wha? I’ve heard the exact opposite, that Morocco is the one nation that won’t topple over.

That’s what people were saying about Egypt a few weeks ago.

476 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:53:00pm

re: #472 Lidane

If you read that link, it’s little more than the Muslim version of Liberation theology, which has been so widely accepted by the Christian church. Really. =P

Pfft. Whatever. If that’s the big ZOMG ISLAMIC SOSHULISM that people are freaking out about, it won’t go anywhere. It’s a minor viewpoint at best and one that won’t catch on, if the rejection and subsequent failure of liberation theology is anything to go by.

I highly doubt that Beck has ever heard of the folks referred to in the link. His linkage of Islamists to socialists/communists/leftists is just a grab bag of boogeymen that he can lump together to promote fear. It doesn’t EVER need to have any connection to reality. Reality is no obstacle for his conspiracy theories.

477 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:54:15pm

re: #475 Jadespring

Maybe, but this would be unprecedented. The Alouites have been the leaders of that nation for over 300 years. In fact, the ancestor of the current king was the first to recognize the United States after our declaration. Also, they have shown themselves, at least to this point, more willing to change and listen to there people.

I still say that Morocco is near the bottom of the list, with Algeria and Yemen being the next. Jordan maybe after that.

478 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:55:43pm

Hot Air is covering important news today, “Tiegate” It seems the POTUS gave Gibbs his tie back as a parting gag gift. He borrowed it for a speech and never returned it. Lots of comments on how horrible that was, especially since he put it in a frame with pictures of Gibbs and the Potus wearing the tie. Just thought you’d want to be updated on the scandal. BTW, he also said Gibbs “Took one for the gipper”, Oh ! the horror.

479 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:56:48pm

re: #477 ProLifeLiberal

Maybe, but this would be unprecedented. The Alouites have been the leaders of that nation for over 300 years. In fact, the ancestor of the current king was the first to recognize the United States after our declaration. Also, they have shown themselves, at least to this point, more willing to change and listen to there people.

I still say that Morocco is near the bottom of the list, with Algeria and Yemen being the next. Jordan maybe after that.

Oh I know. It’s just that I think that a lot of what is going on isn’t that predictable. Stuff rumbles and then click click things come together and you get what has just happened.

480 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:58:27pm

re: #479 Jadespring

Well, I do honestly have a bias to Morocco in the area. I think (and hope) they come out unscathed. Their my favorite nation in the region (Turkey is second). So part of this is having a major bias.

481 Balfour Rage  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:14:51pm

Esther has spoken, or rather Tweeted about Obama & Egypt.
Your text to link…

482 Balfour Rage  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:16:57pm

Whoopsie! Let’s try that again.

Your text to link…

483 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:18:10pm

re: #481 Kid A

Esther has spoken, or rather Tweeted about Obama & Egypt.

Caribou Barbie is as useless as ever. That’s the best her Twitter writer can come up with? Pfft.

484 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:19:42pm

re: #482 Kid A

What does the dumb troll of a woman want Obama to do. We do not control the world, and can barely influence the people of Iran. Egypt’s actions may very well provide a catalyst to something in Iran, but we’ll see.

485 Stanley Sea  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:19:57pm

re: #482 Kid A

Whoopsie! Let’s try that again.

Your text to link…

I love that the one before that was the epic Sputnik vs. Spudnut tweet. What an idiot.

486 The War TARDIS  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:21:36pm

re: #485 Stanley Sea

That’s what happens when one’s native language is Dumbass.

Sorry for the language, but she irritates the heck out of me.

487 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:05:48pm

These guys picked the wrong day for their Muslim bashing. Not just because nobody is really paying them any mind because Egypt is the big story, but because what’s happening in Egypt refutes their bigoted claims.

488 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:07:43pm

re: #482 Kid A

Whoopsie! Let’s try that again.

Your text to link…

Bitch, please.

Can you imagine how she would have handled the situation? I can’t imagine anybody handling things better than the President did.

I voted for Barack Obama and I will never be sorry that I did.

489 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:51:01pm

re: #424 engineer dog

his “qualifications” derive from the wingnut presupposition that government should be run like a business

they never stop to think of how stupid this presumption is. for starters, i recall very vividly the day that a vice president of human resources said to me “a coporation is not a democracy”

That’s why the wingnuts like the idea. It means they’ll be in charge.

490 Amory Blaine  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:55:17pm

re: #1 Gus 802

OK, I just started watching and already within 4 seconds there was mention of Ronald Reagan. Again.

DRINK!!!!


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