Crowded House: A New Performance of “Don’t Dream It’s Over” on the Late Show

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This is among the songs I love most of all.

Founding member Neil Finn has revived and rebuilt his seminal band Crowded House, which now includes his sons Liam and Elroy Finn. We’re honored to host them for this performance of their classic tune “Don’t Dream It’s Over.” Their new album “Dreamers Are Waiting” is out now, stick around to see them perform a song from the album on tonight’s Late Show! #Colbert #Music #CrowdedHouse

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Thanos  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:19:11pm

One of my favorites as well, and each live performance is different

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Citizen K  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:20:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:21:39pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:23:49pm

Endnote 5: A Case Study in Digital Radicalism (UC Merced Talk)

I’m posting this again because I can’t mandate your viewing, but I strongly recommend it.

If you don’t have the time for the entire video, just listen to the last part—from time stamp 41:25 to the end.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:24:24pm

Any version. At any time. All different. All the same.
One hell of a tune.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:25:49pm

re: #2 Citizen K

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The DC Press Corpse will always bow down before the Golden Elephant and whizz on the Donkey.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:27:29pm
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sizzzzlerz  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:30:12pm

Love that song! All these years and I never knew who did it.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:30:12pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

All of this would have happened without the Fairness Doctrine repeal. It did not and wouldn’t now apply to cable television or the internet.

It might not have gone down exactly the same, in the same way, in the same time frame, but it would have happened all the same.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:30:47pm

Roland and a Matchless. Magic in the right hands.
These are the right hands.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:34:00pm

re: #9 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

All of this would have happened without the Fairness Doctrine repeal. It did not and wouldn’t now apply to cable television or the internet.

It might not have gone down exactly the same, in the same way, in the same time frame, but it would have happened all the same.

It seems to me that the Fairness Doctrine should have been extended to cover cable news, and then later on at least to anything on the internet that purports to report news.

We have enough data on the serious consequences of unchecked propaganda passed off as news to justify reform.

Of course, any new Fairness Doctrine would become the #1 target for the right to turn it into a wingnut Ministry of Truth, so there are no easy fixes.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:35:47pm

Crowded House, Weather with you

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:35:57pm
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darthstar  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:36:32pm

I think I just laid down the perfect online insult.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:38:13pm

re: #9 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

All of this would have happened without the Fairness Doctrine repeal. It did not and wouldn’t now apply to cable television or the internet.

It might not have gone down exactly the same, in the same way, in the same time frame, but it would have happened all the same.

Yeah, losing the Fairness Doctrine wasn’t the real problem. Citizens United was a much bigger factor in the rise of bad craziness.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:39:05pm
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William Lewis  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:40:12pm

re: #1 Thanos

One of my favorites as well, and each live performance is different

Each live performance should be different. One of the things I didn’t care for KISS for though was that they tried very hard to make their live shows sound exactly like the records. I’m sure others do too but I’d prefer a lot more “wiggle room” in the performances.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:42:01pm

My wifi is back! (Apparently my plug in the building’s box was mislabeled and a technician unplugged it. They’re doing a lot of upgrades to 5g these days.) It was a long day.

Late good morning!
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:42:12pm

Night Lizards. Be well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:44:38pm

so we’re responsible for ALL the vetting, even refugees heading to other countries.
Cops of the world, indeed…
O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:47:31pm
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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:48:44pm

From Twitter because a video of a stupid slap fight in a preseason football game with the question : Did she deserve it?
And I said anyone at a preseason football game deserves to be slapped upside the head, was targeted harassment. I might be off a week. Maybe banned. Because I be so vicious.
And I really do not give a rats ass.

“Your account is locked
After careful review, we determined your account broke the Twitter Rules. Your account is temporarily in read-only mode, which means you can’t Tweet, Retweet, or Like content. Most accounts regain full access in a week, but it could take longer.”

Maybe this is the 4th smoked account.
Vicious little old me.

Careful review.

Ha ha ha

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:49:39pm

Neil Finn (Crowded House) - Fall At Your Feet (Acoustic Live)

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:50:12pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Yeah, losing the Fairness Doctrine wasn’t the real problem. Citizens United was a much bigger factor in the rise of bad craziness.

IMO it goes at least as far back as the Great Depression. The US political right never found a coherent answer to the policy imperatives of that era (i.e., the government needed to do whatever it took to get the economy back in gear). So they pissed and moaned about ‘that man’ (i.e., FDR) without coming up with any policies other than throwing money at their fat cats.

Everything since then has just been the GOP perfecting its brand of content-free politics of resentment.

Until now we are cursed with a GOP that, if sent back in time to the WWII era, would 99+% be active Nazi fifth columnists. To piss off liberals.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:51:26pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

It came from the RNC. Therefore it is a lie. QED.

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nicdanger  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:52:18pm

This would be a good time to post (or repost) the Tim Pierce vid about playing on the original recordings of this song.

I played Guitar on “Don’t Dream It’s Over” by Crowded House |The Real Story | Guitar Lesson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:54:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:55:43pm
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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:56:35pm

re: #26 nicdanger

The man is a monster of a guitarist. Incredible talent.
Bon Jovi Runaway? Remember that?
Tim.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:57:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 5:58:58pm
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nicdanger  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:03:28pm

re: #30 Juan Carlos Mescalero

Yep,i could (and have ) listen to him all day. And his guitar cockpit makes very very jealous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:05:17pm
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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:07:05pm

Ahhhhhhh par for the course…

California cops went on wild goose chase for purported ‘Antifa bus’ after falling for right-wing hoax

Newly unearthed government documents show that police in northern California expended resources chasing down a phantom “Antifa bus” after falling for a right-wing internet hoax.

The Guardian reports that officials in Shasta and Humboldt counties in northern California picked up on social media posts claiming that Antifa was bussing hundreds of supporters into rural parts of the state with the intent to spark civil unrest in the area.

While there were no actual Antifa busses, that didn’t stop local officials from asking the California Highway Patrol to do everything in their power to track them down.

rawstory.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:08:10pm

niterz, lizardz!

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A Mom Anon  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:08:43pm

re: #35 JOE 🥓

I think if I lived in that area I would never let the cops live that shit down.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:17:41pm

re: #35 JOE 🥓

While there were no actual Antifa busses, that didn’t stop local officials from asking the California Highway Patrol to do everything in their power to track them down.

Wouldn’t that just be parking along I5 and waiting for a bus?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:18:17pm
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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:19:51pm
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mmmirele  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:19:59pm

After my day at work, this is how I feel:

But we don’t have those critters here in south central Arizona. Instead we have coyotes and javelina scouting around for food.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:24:20pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

When I was in 4th grade or so, I had a disagreement with Grandma about creationism vs. evolution. I’m sure I was very tactless about it in the way little kids are, and to her credit Grandma never told me I was bound for Hell.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:25:28pm

Today, after more than two months and multiple heart operations, the toddler daughter of one of my co-workers was able to walk out of the hospital and go home with her parents.
The nurses lined up in the hall and gave her a cheering escort. Soap bubbles were blown.
The staff was probably relieved to help a patient that hadn’t taken up their time by disregarding public health warnings.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:25:33pm
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No Malarkey!  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:27:28pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

When I was in 4th grade or so, I had a disagreement with Grandma about creationism vs. evolution. I’m sure I was very tactless about it in the way little kids are, and to her credit Grandma never told me I was bound for Hell.

My grandmother gave us Jack Chick tracts.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:27:44pm

When I told my son about this

He said “I can’t wait to see Wes Anderson’s Suicide Squad.”

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mmmirele  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:28:27pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

When I was in 4th grade or so, I had a disagreement with Grandma about creationism vs. evolution. I’m sure I was very tactless about it in the way little kids are, and to her credit Grandma never told me I was bound for Hell.

When I was quite a bit older than 4th grade (maybe in my early 40s), my mother was shocked when I told her I didn’t believe in Noah’s Ark. I then proceeded to make it worse by blithely pointing out that I could prove before her eyes that Noah’s Ark could not have happened. All I’d need was an aquarium, some freshwater fish and some saltwater fish. “But some fish would have to die…” I finished up.

Mom was quite upset with me. Later, my dad took me aside and told me that I could not discuss “religion” with mom ever again. So no, she knows nothing about the picketing as a result.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:32:40pm

Maybe ignorant people actually know deep down that experts know a lot more than they do, but they’re not emotionally equipped to openly give in and admit it.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:33:09pm

Oppositional ignorance.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:33:30pm

Fucker C brings on a Pulpit Pimp who shoots his mouth off showing what a wacko he is!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:34:24pm

re: #48 jaunte

I’d like to believe that.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:34:48pm

re: #47 mmmirele

When I was quite a bit older than 4th grade (maybe in my early 40s), my mother was shocked when I told her I didn’t believe in Noah’s Ark. I then proceeded to make it worse by blithely pointing out that I could prove before her eyes that Noah’s Ark could not have happened. All I’d need was an aquarium, some freshwater fish and some saltwater fish. “But some fish would have to die…” I finished up.

Mom was quite upset with me. Later, my dad took me aside and told me that I could not discuss “religion” with mom ever again. So no, she knows nothing about the picketing as a result.

That was pretty much what my parents told me after I told them about talking with Grandma about evolution.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:34:56pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

“Not all” ignorant people.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:35:46pm

re: #50 JOE 🥓

If Satan is real, his minions are Tucker Carlson and the rest of the GOP Empire of Lies.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:36:02pm

re: #40 jaunte

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Madam when you are hooked to a respirator you will learn too late you are not the Greatest Of All Time.

You are a fool

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:37:18pm

re: #55 JOE 🥓

Also, she “does what they tell her to do” ALL THE TIME.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:40:35pm

Because it’s the You’reNotTheBossOfMe Party.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:41:53pm

re: #40 jaunte

A wingnut bleating about ‘not being a sheep’ is serious irony.

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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:42:44pm

Weird Few Days For InfoWars | Wonkette

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Citizen K  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:45:42pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

A wingnut bleating about ‘not being a sheep’ is serious irony.

The fact that we have people bleating about not being sheep while buying actual livestock dewormer to defend themselves against a disease they claim to be a hoax, over a freely distributed and authorized vaccine, because Fox News and Jordon Peterson said so, is so absurd that if someone pitched a script with that, they’d be laughed off as a hack and soft-blackballed from Hollywood.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:47:08pm

simple lessons

Nite nite all.

Blues Soloing Over Chords- With Session Guitarist - Tim Pierce - Guitar Lesson

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:48:24pm

re: #60 Citizen K

The fact that we have people bleating about not being sheep while buying actual livestock dewormer to defend themselves against a disease they claim to be a hoax, over a freely distributed and authorized vaccine, because Fox News and Jordon Peterson said so, is so absurd that if someone pitched a script with that, they’d be laughed off as a hack and soft-blackballed from Hollywood.

Indeed. Just like you could never get a fictional villain as revoltingly one-dimensional as Trump past any editor.

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:50:53pm

One more.
Lost and forgotten gems from days gone by.

Mick Jagger - Memo From Turner [HD]

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:52:29pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

A wingnut bleating about ‘not being a sheep’ is serious irony.

Considering the parable being cited…

…we need to talk again about how these people constantly invoke sources of authority in a way that demonstrates they don’t care about the what the source of authority actually said.

It’s…perfectly consistent…to the point they’ve backed into nihilism but just won’t admit it.

They’ll cite a science guy but not really because they don’t actually read the paper, but they’ll also invoke a general mistrust of science when most scientists say the opposite of what they want to hear.

They’ll cite religion because God is the first cause and thus the last argument, but they also won’t acknowledge that they didn’t read the fucking magic book what tells you what God said.

This isn’t a belief that they hold and can be challenged, it’s a thought process in which nothing escapes the solipsism.

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nicdanger  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:55:02pm

re: #61 Juan Carlos Mescalero

Ah yes, down the Tim Pierce rabbit hole LOL

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:55:51pm

re: #64 The Ghost of a Flea

I lean toward them having some knowledge of what they’re doing, because it partly explains the anger when they get called on it.

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nicdanger  Aug 23, 2021 • 6:59:10pm

re: #63 Juan Carlos Mescalero

Excellent choice

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:03:30pm

re: #64 The Ghost of a Flea

“Conservatism consists of one proposition: there much be an in-group the laws protect but do not bind, and out-groups the laws bind but don’t protect”.

Always and everywhere this is what it is, and 21st century US wingnuts are just dropping the mask more completely than anyone since the Nazis.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:03:52pm

Oh where, oh where has Doug Logan gone?

Oh where, oh where could he be?

Kyung Lah tries to track down the “Cyber Ninjas”

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Juan Carlos Mescalero  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:04:45pm

One more gem.
A man and his guitar and amp.
Nite all

Rory Gallagher - Walk on Hot Coals (HQ)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:04:53pm

re: #66 jaunte

I lean toward them having some knowledge of what they’re doing, because it partly explains the anger when they get called on it.

I agree.

I stand by my position that we’re basically dealing with the social-movement equivalent of an abusive boyfriend.

Their standard of “winning” is just us shutting up and doing what we’re told

Any method to get this result is acceptable “rhetoric.”

Pointing out their rhetoric is empty, that the argument can’t just keep recurring while they keep getting what they want, is the worst thing possible and thus they leap to “maybe you dying is the solution.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:12:10pm

Each round of suffering created by this—whether it’s them killing themselves through stupidity or other people dying as by-blows to that stupidity or the eventually directly-attributable harm they do to a person—they will simply scream “Why did you make me do this?” at the corpses.

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Dangerman  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:12:27pm

re: #60 Citizen K

The fact that we have people bleating about not being sheep while buying actual livestock dewormer to defend themselves against a disease they claim to be a hoax, over a freely distributed and authorized vaccine, because Fox News and Jordon Peterson said so, is so absurd that if someone pitched a script with that, they’d be laughed off as a hack and soft-blackballed from Hollywood.

You’re being too generous

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:17:20pm
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A Mom Anon  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:35:10pm

re: #75 jaunte
(The following is pure speculation and assumption, YMMV)
Notice the kid in question was quiet as hell, not a peep. I read that as she doesn’t agree with her dumb ass of a “father”, I am sure he would have allowed her to talk if she was as much of a fucking idiot as he is. So her dad made a scene at school(bad enough) but it’s also online(which is even worse), which any teenager would just adore, I am so sure. And for what? Trying to win a dick measuring contest. Great Job Father of the Year!

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:36:08pm

re: #76 A Mom Anon

Ha! I did imagine she was NOT pleased.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:37:42pm

Who would enjoy having their parents force them into a physical confrontation with a teacher?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:39:17pm

re: #62 EPR-radar

Indeed. Just like you could never get a fictional villain as revoltingly one-dimensional as Trump past any editor.

I believe that in the original backstory for Star Wars, before the film’s success and the production of The Empire Strikes Back changed almost everything (for the better), the Emperor was meant to have been only the current one, in a long line of emperors who were all easily manipulated idiots and blowhards, and the real rulers of the Empire were the Grand Moffs and Admirals that met in that board room in the Death Star.

It sounds a lot like, before they decided to make him a Sith Lord, the Emperor was basically a Fuckface von Clownstick type.

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plansbandc  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:53:53pm

re: #61 Juan Carlos Mescalero

I’ve watched Pierce and Beato shoot the shit and it’s great. Love them both. youtube isn’t all bad.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:55:40pm

re: #71 Juan Carlos Mescalero

I saw him play in a bar in Tucson mid 1980’s. Great live blues performance!!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:58:22pm

It’s going to get hot in SoCal:

Much warmer this week becoming hot inland - NWS San Diego

..

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:58:52pm

Co Co County is still ticking up, good.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2021 • 7:59:31pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:02:33pm

Lara Logan has a severe case of brain worms

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William Lewis  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:13:10pm

Bought the tickets for my trip to Memphis in October. Go on the 10th come home on the 20th and back at work at 11:30 PM that same night :) Nice little vacation with my sweetie.

First time flying since 5/2002 coming back from Vietnam with our little baby boy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:16:56pm

What do you think of this analogy?

If you don’t complete a course of antibiotics to eliminate a bacterial infection, the bacteria are likely to develop resistance to the antibiotics so that that it will no longer be effective as treatment.

Requiring everyone to be vaccinated is similar to completing a course of antibiotics. If you stop early, the virus will mutate so that the vaccine will lose its effectiveness at preventing disease.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:17:37pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:18:25pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:21:30pm

More mature and sensible than many adults | Pharyngula

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:26:36pm

re: #86 William Lewis

Bought the tickets for my trip to Memphis in October. Go on the 10th come home on the 20th and back at work at 11:30 PM that same night :) Nice little vacation with my sweetie.

First time flying since 5/2002 coming back from Vietnam with our little baby boy.

I’m going to want to see pictures of the ducks. (and the BBQ. But don’t get BBQ duck, maybe beef-ribs or something).

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:28:05pm

re: #89 Dread Pirate Ron

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Sick
Of
That
Shit

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:28:08pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

What do you think of this analogy?

If you don’t complete a course of antibiotics to eliminate a bacterial infection, the bacteria are likely to develop resistance to the antibiotics so that that it will no longer be effective as treatment.

Requiring everyone to be vaccinated is similar to completing a course of antibiotics. If you stop early, the virus will mutate so that the vaccine will lose its effectiveness at preventing disease.

The people who would understand and accept that analogy, are already vaccinated. The people you want to persuade are going to think you’re making it up.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:31:57pm
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William Lewis  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:34:45pm

re: #91 sagehen

I’m going to want to see pictures of the ducks. (and the BBQ. But don’t get BBQ duck, maybe beef-ribs or something).

I like chicken BBQ best. :D

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:39:45pm

re: #93 sagehen

The people who would understand and accept that analogy, are already vaccinated. The people you want to persuade are going to think you’re making it up.

I’m desperately trying to find something to persuade a friend who thinks that HCQ and ivermectin will help him if he gets infected. When I suggested that those medications are not effective for Covid, he responds that his information is from sources with a different perspective. Basically, the problem with people “doing their own research” without the background to evaluate reliability of information.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:42:25pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:43:56pm

PZ Myers:

People who resisted getting the vaccine because their body is a temple and they were not going to taint it with untested, unholy Science are instead rushing out to ingest toxic agricultural chemicals.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:50:33pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

This is one of the best and blatant instances of cult behavior through this whole disasterous mess. Not the only one to be sure, but one that should resonate with people who have more than a couple of brain cells still firing.

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Moe Avattar  Aug 23, 2021 • 8:52:42pm

re: #70 JOE 🥓

Oh where, oh where has Doug Logan gone?

Oh where, oh where could he be?

This is why the Ninjas aren’t answering the phone

Richard Harrison Phone Conversation

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No Malarkey!  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:00:05pm

re: #96 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m desperately trying to find something to persuade a friend who thinks that HCQ and ivermectin will help him if he gets infected. When I suggested that those medications are not effective for Covid, he responds that his information is from sources with a different perspective. Basically, the problem with people “doing their own research” without the background to evaluate reliability of information.

Probably the only thing that will convince him is if he or someone very close to him gets desperately ill or dies of Covid.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:00:51pm

Gym Neighbors better lawyer up!

how the phone probe will happen for jan 6

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:01:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:12:01pm

re: #103 Dread Pirate Ron

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I’ve speculated for years about the exact process by which the reactionary right would be consigned to the dustbin of history. Until recently, I never imagined that mass suicide would figure so prominently in that process.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:15:30pm

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’ve speculated for years about the exact process by which the reactionary right would be consigned to the dustbin of history. Until recently, I never imagined that mass suicide would figure so prominently in that process.

Too bad they are taking a lot of innocent victims with them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:17:06pm
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Belafon  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:23:42pm

re: #96 Hecuba’s daughter

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:29:10pm

re: #108 Belafon

Excellent piece.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:34:26pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 9:41:43pm

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wrenchwench  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:02:24pm

re: #110 Dread Pirate Ron

40% contained

means 6o% doing whatever the fuck it wants.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:26:35pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

means 6o% doing whatever the fuck it wants.

The size! Equal to a square 33.67 miles on a side. My wife and I went on a camping vacation in 1990 before we were married. We camped on the Feather River west of Chester. It’s gone now. The next night we camped at a creek north of Whiskeytown Lake, that burned out in the Redding fire. The only place from that trip that didn’t burn out is the creek at the 9000’ marker of Tioga Pass Rd.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:33:09pm

These are the fires from the previous 5 years, not including 2021.

We’re running out of forests.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:34:46pm

The Website Fucked Anti-Vaxxer carries the stories of famous and common people who were staunch anti-vaxxers who died of Covid-19, sometimes going down denying right to the end.

The site is not for mocking anti-vaxxers. It exists as it says to be an object lesson for others you might know to try to convince them of their error.

They get several entries a day, sometimes culled from obituary or news accounts, sometimes from family or friends.

The latest entry just went up, a woman who was poisoned by conservative lies and Christianity.

fuckedantivaxxer.com

Frequently, such people’s social media account are full of all the same anti-vax memes, though hers has a new one the site hasn’t seen before.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:36:40pm

re: #114 Dread Pirate Ron

With Climate being what it is, these areas may start to change into high Grasslands and even desert depending on moisture.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:38:56pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I stand corrected, it does have a comment section. And the commentators do mock such people, though the Website owner says it’s not for that purpose.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:39:54pm

…POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE HENRI MOVING EAST…
…HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ACROSS PORTIONS
OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH TONIGHT…

SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT…0300 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…41.4N 72.0W
ABOUT 110 MI…175 KM ENE OF NEW YORK CITY
ABOUT 50 MI…80 KM SE OF HARTFORD CONNECTICUT
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…25 MPH…35 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…E OR 80 DEGREES AT 13 MPH…20 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1006 MB…29.71 INCHES

nhc.noaa.gov

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:44:09pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Website Fucked Anti-Vaxxer carries the stories of famous and common people who were staunch anti-vaxxers who died of Covid-19, sometimes going down denying right to the end.

The site is not for mocking anti-vaxxers (it doesn’t have a comment section). It exists as it says to be an object lesson for others you might know to try to convince them of their error.

They get several entries a day, sometimes culled from obituary or news accounts, sometimes from family or friends.

The latest entry just went up, a woman who was poisoned by conservative lies and Christianity.

fuckedantivaxxer.com

Frequently, such people’s social media account are full of all the same anti-vax memes, though hers has a new one the site hasn’t seen before.

Facebook blocked me from linking fuckedantivaxxer.com

BUT

Marky Mark lets those Ivermectin Idiots post any fucking antivax item.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:48:08pm

Tiger Beat On The Potomac Invites Danny Boy to dump on Joe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:51:10pm

re: #119 JOE 🥓

Facebook blocked me from linking fuckedantivaxxer.com

BUT

Marky Mark lets those Ivermectin Idiots post any fucking antivax item.

Marky Mark’s algorithm probably doesn’t like the name.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:54:39pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

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I for one would love to hear what a wingnut or libertarian (but I repeat myself) thinks are the “rights” that you lose if you refuse to be vaccinated.

Lose your job? According to wingnuts, you don’t have a right to a job, as that’s not one of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. “Pursuit of happiness” doesn’t count as that’s the DoI and thus has no bearing on your rights except when SCOTUS wants to find a loophole.

Can’t enter a business/restaurant? Again, wingnuts have been lecturing us for years that you have no right to be served by a business, which is what they love to mindlessly belch out when they want to excuse businesses refusing to do business with minority customers.

Can’t board a plane/bus/etc? See above, you have no right to any of those under the BoR.

Education, health insurance, medical care, and other items that you insist your “rights” are being infringed or even denied by your refusal to get vaccinated…are not rights by your overly narrow and bigoted view of the Constitution. Welcome to the consequences of your own actions, I’m sure you’ll be every bit as happy with the situation as those you were happy to condemn to it.

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JC1  Aug 23, 2021 • 10:55:32pm

re: #121 Hecuba’s daughter

Marky Mark’s algorithm probably doesn’t like the name.

Could try bit.ly or some other url shortening service to see if FB will allow it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:00:08pm

re: #119 JOE 🥓

Facebook blocked me from linking fuckedantivaxxer.com

BUT

Marky Mark lets those Ivermectin Idiots post any fucking antivax item.

Never get between a libertarian and his money.

125
Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:03:10pm

Yeah, I bet you’d get a hell of a windburn in that top.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:07:24pm

Jacksonville Mother Loses 2 sons to Covid 19 in 12 Hours (WJXT-TV, Jacksonville, Fla.)

The mother is vaccinated, her adult sons weren’t. They died at age thirty-five and forty-one.

The mother has the risk factor of being elderly, but because she was vaccinated, she had a mild form of the illness and survives to bury her two anti-vax children.

Her third son died five years ago. She has no children left.

She also depended on her two sons for support, and now is left with massive medical bills, funerals, and the possible loss of her home.

This is the sort of person who should be getting the GoFundMes, not the conservaliars who die of their own actions. Their lies destroy others.

news4jax.com

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:07:38pm

bit.ly

Try this.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:14:40pm

Future NYT Cletus Safari headline: “Down And Out in Biden’s America: How White Americans Are Suffering For the Crime of Being Unvaccinated.”

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:20:36pm

re: #128 Targetpractice

Future NYT Cletus Safari headline: “Down And Out in Biden’s America: How White Americans Are Suffering For the Crime of Being Unvaccinated.”

Don’t give them any ideas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:24:27pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:26:43pm

re: #129 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Don’t give them any ideas.

Shit, I doubt they need any help coming up with ways to portray white folks as victims.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:33:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:35:03pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:38:38pm

I can already see all the articles coming up in the next few months, the Beltway press still thinking that the hot ticket item is trying to build sympathy for selfish assholes who refuse to get vaccinated rather than the growing majority who are vaccinated being asked to take steps to protect the selfish assholes from the consequences of their actions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:51:00pm

re: #9 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

All of this would have happened without the Fairness Doctrine repeal. It did not and wouldn’t now apply to cable television or the internet.

It might not have gone down exactly the same, in the same way, in the same time frame, but it would have happened all the same.

This is also a product of the decline in public education that set in when Reagan started slashing budgets and vilifying teachers as lazy unionists.

It is all coming home to roost.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:51:04pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

I can already see all the articles coming up in the next few months, the Beltway press still thinking that the hot ticket item is trying to build sympathy for selfish assholes who refuse to get vaccinated rather than the growing majority who are vaccinated being asked to take steps to protect the selfish assholes from the consequences of their actions.

They’re already doing it. See all the scolding articles against liberals for calling out conservatives for their anti-vax nonsense, as if both sides are the same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:54:38pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

“WATCH: Kamala Harris laughs when a reporter starts to ask her about Americans trapped in Afghanistan”

She has been keeping a relatively low profile, but as soon as she raises her head any more, they are going to rip into her with a vengeance, basically (Obama + Hillary)²

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piratedan  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:57:51pm

re: #85 gocart mozart

funny how all of that was left for Biden to transport… if Trump drew down the troops (which he did), why didn’t they bring the equipment home too?

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:58:27pm

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They’re already doing it. See all the scolding articles against liberals for calling out conservatives for their anti-vax nonsense, as if both sides are the same.

This is why I read almost no news. I’d burst a blood vessel seeing all the cases where the willful stupidity of the sisterfuckers of the USA is privileged over actual expertise, while we’re in the middle of multiple crises that demand immediate and intelligent action (covid, climate change, income inequality being the big 3).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2021 • 11:59:07pm

re: #58 EPR-radar

A wingnut bleating about ‘not being a sheep’ is serious irony.

and that she is proud of being a goat

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:00:13am

This looks an awful lot like a libertarian grift.

What’s a multimillionaire tech entrepreneur to do when the private school he owns gets dragged by the media for spreading anti-vax disinformation and banning vaccinated teachers?

How does “launch an online reputation management website” strike you?

David Centner, cofounder of the Centner Academy, has announced the launch of a new tech venture: erase.com, a website that allows people to cleanse their online reputation of bad press and reviews. “Combat the Negative” is its tagline.

erase.com offers to remove negative news articles, “fake and negative online reviews,” and Google search results. The service also offers “positive reputation management” and crisis-management solutions.

(more)

Co-Owner of Anti-Vax School Launches Online Reputation Scrubbing Service (Miami New Times, August 4, 2021)

So from their Website at Erase:

We offer effective Content Removal & Reputation Management Solutions designed to combat the spread of negative content.

erase.com specializes in the permanent deletion and suppression of negative online material from websites and search engines. We work with companies and individuals to repair and boost their online reputation.

They offer a “free quote.” To get the free quote, you have to give up your name, your telephone, your E-mail, and tell them about your problem.

I’m not a software engineer, so I’ll ask my wife.

Yeah, she says it’s a grift. They are promising things they can’t deliver.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:00:37am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They’re already doing it. See all the scolding articles against liberals for calling out conservatives for their anti-vax nonsense, as if both sides are the same.

True, but they’ve been mostly dealing with puff pieces about hurt fee-fees and hypothetical scenarios. In about a month or so, when anti-vaxxers start getting their walking papers for refusing to get the jab, we’ll get tear-soaked articles about how Little Johnny is gonna die because his daddy lost his health insurance when he lost his job. Or how poor Cathy had this big night planned out to celebrate achieving her life’s goal, but the restaurant that she and her anti-vaxxer friends made reservations at turned her away because she refused to wear a mask or show proof of vaccination. And let’s not forget the brave anti-vaxxers who staged a walkout and protest at the local “Big Corporation,” who we must view as patriotic Americans for inconveniencing people to protest their “rights.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:03:53am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that she is proud of being a goat

And she doesn’t understand the Biblical reference of separating the sheep from the goats.

Socialists already have to teach conservatives what capitalism is, do atheists have to teach believers what the Bible says?

Or is she proud of being one of those who would be denied Paradise?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:05:34am

re: #142 Targetpractice

NYT, maybe: The Nazi Anti-Vaxxer Next Door Is Just Like You.”

I was referring more to the articles telling liberals to stop mocking conservatives over their anti-vaccine stance.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:06:48am

re: #138 piratedan

funny how all of that was left for Biden to transport… if Trump drew down the troops (which he did), why didn’t they bring the equipment home too?

Realistic answer is that most of that equipment belonged to the (former) Afghan National Army, and even that stuff is largely composed of tech one or two generations behind what we’re fielding. And the Taliban is largely a force of conscripts and guerilla fighters, they have neither the need or the training to use most of the really interesting bits of kit more than once or twice. Humvees and M4s will get plenty of use until they break down, but items like drones and attack aircraft are gonna go to waste.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:07:29am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:09:32am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

NYT, maybe: The Nazi Anti-Vaxxer Next Door Is Just Like You.”

I was referring more to the articles telling liberals to stop mocking conservatives over their anti-vaccine stance.

And that’s all they really have right now, emotional appeals trying to build support for opposition to vaccine mandates. When those fail, then we’ll get the “How can you heartless monsters not care that peoples lives are being ruined!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:10:58am

Perhaps the Twitterati here can help out a poor beleaguered OB/GYN

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:14:02am

Vaccine mandates are all about Freedom of Choice.

You are free to decline the vaccine, just as you are free to live with the consequences.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:14:39am

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This Brett Wooldridge clown is a lying bullshitter. Calling his crap ‘misinformation’ is a euphemism.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:20:31am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:20:47am

If you’re worried that the Taliban might give any tech we left behind to the Russians or the Chinese, there’s no need to worry about that…because we left them plenty of that shit when they were picking over our FOBs after we abandoned the Kurds with neither notice or care for their impending slaughter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:25:25am

re: #150 EPR-radar

This Brett Wooldridge clown is a lying bullshitter. Calling his crap ‘misinformation’ is a euphemism.

He is a software engineer.

At best, he’s using information from VAERS to support his assertion.

VAERS itself says you cannot use that dataset for research unless you understand the limitations of it (anyone can report anything).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:27:49am
155
Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:28:47am

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all persuasions, I give you…..

…the German language!

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:29:15am

So, there was an emergency Foreign Ministers’ meeting at NATO on Friday, and the Secretary General had a press conference (transcript here).

Some Paris-based CNN rep had the following People Are Saying non-question that would make Newsmax proud:

Melissa Bell (CNN Paris): Secretary General, thank you very much. I wanted to ask you first of all, whether you agreed with the statement that’s been made these last few days so this was the greatest debacle in the history of NATO, also whether you don’t think that what’s happened these last few days is really a nail in the coffin of Article Five that Allies can go into battle together, but once they don’t withdraw together as a coalition, NATO has a problem.

Short answer: no.

And for the military and foreign affairs twitter posters who are mad that Biden won’t admit error in the withdrawal: assuming there was error (debatable), Biden understands the press way better than they do. They are out for blood, and has been shown repeatedly in the last four-something years, the only way out is to tell them to fuck off. It’s not what you want in a society, but gotcha journalism leads to one place.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:30:43am

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Smetana: Vltava (The Moldau) - Stunning Performance



..

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Nyet  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:30:58am

re: #339 Hecuba’s daughter

Hope Sergey pays us a visit here to tell us what’s going on with Covid in Russia. Certainly the current “official” deaths have been at the highest level since the start of the epidemic. Looks like Russians are finally getting vaccinated — the percentage has doubled since 2 months ago but is still half our level. Our percentage is pathetic, primarily due to the Trump anti-vaxx brigade.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:35:16am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He is a software engineer.

At best, he’s using information from VAERS to support his assertion.

VAERS itself says you cannot use that dataset for research unless you understand the limitations of it (anyone can report anything).

He didn’t even bother with that shit, his “argument” was to pull a Gish Gallop by throwing up three different tweets (two quotes sans context) to BS that kids don’t need to get vaccinated because they don’t die of COVID.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:39:07am

re: #79 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I believe that in the original backstory for Star Wars, before the film’s success and the production of The Empire Strikes Back changed almost everything (for the better), the Emperor was meant to have been only the current one, in a long line of emperors who were all easily manipulated idiots and blowhards, and the real rulers of the Empire were the Grand Moffs and Admirals that met in that board room in the Death Star.

That’s actually in the novelization of Star Wars, the one ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster. That’s how I knew the Emperor’s name was Palpatine and why his character’s appearance in the prequel trilogies came as no surprise. Also, no surprise that he was Darth Sidious….it was pretty obvious (at least to me) that Palpatine and Sidious were one and the same.

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Nyet  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:41:30am

A book about Treblinka which I co-edited has been printed, will soon be presented.

facebook.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:51:27am

Brett’s is the regular anti-vaxxer “logic,” namely the hypocritical kind that says a guy who had diabetes who dies choking on his own lung juices died of a “comorbidity” and not COVID, but if the same guy got vaccinated and then hit by a train then the vaccine “killed” him.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:05:29am

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

That’s actually in the novelization of Star Wars, the one ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster. That’s how I knew the Emperor’s name was Palpatine and why his character’s appearance in the prequel trilogies came as no surprise. Also, no surprise that he was Darth Sidious….it was pretty obvious (at least to me) that Palpatine and Sidious were one and the same.

IIRC the fall of the Old Republic is the backstory of that Star Wars novel — i.e. Palpatine in that novel was the first emperor and formerly a Senator of the Old Republic (in passing, not a major plot point). So if there was a long line of mostly useless emperors, it would likely be in the SW extended universe somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:09:30am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all persuasions, I give you…..

…the German language!

The Fahrvergnügen of fish.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:10:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:11:43am

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Fahrvergnügen of fish.

Literally “Peacockeyebrightlycoloredbass”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:14:38am

The director of the College of Public Health at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. This advert is to work a a nurse in Nebraska.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:18:01am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The director of the College of Public Health at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. This advert is to work a a nurse in Nebraska.

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So their strategy is to hope that patients will want to flock to hospitals staffed by plague rats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:18:53am

re: #168 Targetpractice

So their strategy is to hope that patients will want to flock to hospitals staffed by plague rats.

monetary incentives for people not to get vaccinated…

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:20:54am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More results of the US penchant for coddling and privileging willful stupidity.

It’s as if a civil engineering firm ran an ad looking for candidates who didn’t believe in strength of materials.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:22:07am

re: #170 EPR-radar

More results of the US penchant for coddling and privileging willful stupidity.

It’s as if a civil engineering firm ran an ad looking for candidates who didn’t believe in strength of materials.

“No mandated acceptance of the Laws of Thermodynamics.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:22:43am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re not happy trying to kill children, let’s try to kill elderly veterans too!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:23:47am

re: #168 Targetpractice

So their strategy is to hope that patients will want to flock to hospitals staffed by plague rats.

This is for state run facilities where they have captive audiences who can’t refuse, such as prisons and state clinics run for homeless people (and all state veterans’ homes).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:24:31am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

monetary incentives for people not to get vaccinated…

Coming out of my taxes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:25:41am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is for state run facilities where they have captive audiences who can’t refuse, such as prisons and state clinics run for homeless people (and all state veterans’ homes).

Which still have to bow to market forces, such as the reality that having a largely unvaccinated staff means any time somebody pops positive then you risk the entire staff needing to be sent home for two weeks or until their tests come back negative (whichever comes first).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:27:54am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hastings YRTC is the state youth substance abuse rehabilitation and treatment centre, for boys (the state has none for girls because it openly discriminates) aged 13-18.

They are also a captive audience.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:35:13am

re: #175 Targetpractice

Which still have to bow to market forces, such as the reality that having a largely unvaccinated staff means any time somebody pops positive then you risk the entire staff needing to be sent home for two weeks or until their tests come back negative (whichever comes first).

I’m not sure how market forces apply to state-run facilities.

If the governor can openly defy the CDC and refuse to report data, and Republicans are already trying to perpetrate a genocide, I don’t see them having a problem suppressing that sort of information, or blowing it off when it becomes public.

Early in the pandemic, when meat-packing plants here tried to report local data on their own plants and asked for DHHS guidance, the state moved to prohibit them from reporting data (on the claim it would panic the local towns).

Democrats like Sen. Tony Vargas took up the cause to protect meat packing workers (where the fight broke out between him and my state senator over Covid-19 being a hoax right after Sen. Vargas’s father died of the disease).

Today my state senator has half a page in the county paper to rant about the University of Nebraska board of regents voting down one of its members proposals (he is running for governor under the GOP banner) to ban critical race theory across the university system. The entire column is nothing but “fear, socialism, and Democrats are the real racists” along with “sensible Western Nebraska values” (whatever the hell those are).

I don’t care if I get absolutely annihilated in an election next year running against him; I am not going to let him run unopposed.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:35:44am

The trailer for Spider-Man: No Way Home has so many Easter Eggs/callbacks to previous Spider-Man flicks.

SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME - Official Teaser Trailer (HD)

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:36:33am

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is for state run facilities where they have captive audiences who can’t refuse, such as prisons and state clinics run for homeless people (and all state veterans’ homes).

Guess they couldn’t find enough registered nurses in the prisons to farm out.

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:45:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:47:37am

“…New York, where armed debutantes keep the Middle Classes at bay!”

(from an old National Lampoon Radio Show series)

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:50:23am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

along with “sensible Western Nebraska values” (whatever the hell those are).

As near as I can tell, these values are “realizing that the undisputed reign of white rural conservatives is near its end and because of it willing to kill everyone including themselves out of spite”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:56:48am

re: #182 ericblair

As near as I can tell, these values are “realizing that the undisputed reign of white rural conservatives is near its end and because of it willing to kill everyone including themselves out of spite”.

“…take me home to the flatlands, good old welcome mat lands
where the waving fields of wheat say “come home soon”
take me home to that little town where everyone’s your neighbor
and the family ate dead chickens on a Sunday afternoon.”

Austin Lounge Lizards — “Cornhusker Refugee” — Texas Showdown 86

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:03:07am

I would at least try it if this became available here. That said, I would probably get shot or have my car rolled over living in the #2 beef state in the nation.

Very long thread from Bloomberg

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:05:22am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We discussed that song here a few days ago, surrounding the town of Lodgepole in the lyrics. (It’s hard to be gay in Lodgepole, Nebraska.)

Lodgepole is a real town in the next county south of me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:10:37am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We discussed that song here a few days ago, surrounding the town of Lodgepole in the lyrics. (It’s hard to be gay in Lodgepole, Nebraska.)

Lodgepole is a real town in the next county south of me.

No lodging your pole there?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:13:58am

Blue Cross/Blue Shield using scammy text messages to advertise.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:19:56am

So in extremely local news, a birthday card came in the mail from a person in Omaha regarding my late father’s upcoming birthday.

The group Honor and Remember here started a mail campaign to mark the birthdays of military members in combat.

The card is handwritten and personal (along with a bit of patriotic prose).

It ends, “As you remember his birthday I hope the memories of your times together bring you comfort. Please know that your Dad is not forgotten and that we are praying for you.”

I’m not really the prayer type, but I will drop a letter in the mail in response to the nice woman who wrote this to thank her for her empathy and consideration.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:24:54am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:35:36am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would at least try it if this became available here. That said, I would probably get shot or have my car rolled over living in the #2 beef state in the nation.

Very long thread from Bloomberg

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They want to find ready acceptance for lab-grown meat? Want to get to sell this shit by the ton to consumers every week? Market it with names like “Hippie Puncher” or “PETA Bane.” Put tags on it that say “PETA Disapproved” and “100% Hippie Free.” Then get your marketing campaign out there to tell the legions of knuckle-draggers that every time they cook up some Tyson 100% lab-grown chicken nuggets for the kids or fire up the grill on July 4th to roast some Oscar Mayer 100% Lab Beef hot dogs, PETA screams in impotent rage that nobody’s listening to them anymore. McD’s can readily declare that all their menu is now PETA-unfriendly and every Big Mac you buy is money being denied to hippies.

Within a year, any opposition to lab-grown meat will have disappeared and eating a burger using it will be seen as a patriotic act.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:41:40am

re: #190 Targetpractice

…

Within a year, any opposition to lab-grown meat will have disappeared and eating a burger using it will be seen as a patriotic act.

I like real meat off the grill, otherwise, I am fine with substitutes, soy granulate in a pasta sauce or chili, for example. And I really like the fake sausage mix they market in the UK and always ask people to bring it back over with them.

Still have not tried out any of the artificially grown substitutes on the market.

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:43:46am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would at least try it if this became available here. That said, I would probably get shot or have my car rolled over living in the #2 beef state in the nation.

Very long thread from Bloomberg

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My opinion, which I know everyone is dying to hear, is that this will be a sort of niche ethical market until it gets cheaper than real meat, at which point McDonalds and Burger King and every other chain that relies on selling fast cheap burgers is going to jump on it, because they can’t afford not to. Plus all the cheap frozen stuff at the grocery store. I assume the beef industry will put up an enormous scare campaign (rather ironically considering what kind of drugs they shoot the cows up with and what parts of the animal they use), but money talks. Sort of like the coal industry: they can scream and threaten and bribe all they want, but once natural gas was cheaper, bye bye coal.

This is going to have big knock-on effects, because it’s not just less cows: almost half of US corn production is feed grain for animals. That’s going to take a huge hit. Plus, almost half of US corn production is for fuel ethanol (I was surprised by this, but it’s USDA statistics); electric cars are going to get cheaper than the equivalent ICE cars in the next few years, so that production is probably going to get blown away. All the corn we think about is in a narrow slice of the graph called “other”. (Source: here) I think 70 percent of the soybean crop is for feed as well, but not a lot goes to beef cattle.

You can see a scenario in the next decade where a lot of the agricultural production of the midwest is gone. I’m sure the state governments will demand that Uncle Sucker buy up 8 billion bushels of corn to dump in the ocean, but I don’t think this will fly.

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Nyet  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:45:06am

re: #161 Nyet

A book about Treblinka which I co-edited has been printed, will soon be presented.

facebook.com

Uploaded my article from that book to Academia.

academia.edu

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:49:27am

re: #192 ericblair

serious future shock, especially when self-driving vehicles put most truck/taxi/courier/delivery drivers out of work…

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:49:42am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like real meat off the grill, otherwise, I am fine with substitutes, soy granulate in a pasta sauce or chili, for example. And I really like the fake sausage mix they market in the UK and always ask people to bring it back over with them.

Still have not tried out any of the artificially grown substitutes on the market.

The EU is dragging its ass on this, partly because the regulatory process for foods is slow, but I’d assume mostly that the governments are dreading the reaction from the European ag industry, who IMO are more politically powerful than the US ag industry. I’m sure we’ll get tonnes of cowshit dumped on legislature lawns on a regular basis and tractors blocking the highways.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 2:59:30am

re: #192 ericblair

Nah, I don’t see that happening, at least not overnight. No, I figure instead that you’ll see is “real” meat becoming enormously expensive as “faux” meat replaces it as a dietary staple. Just like pricey restaurants now boast about their beef being “grass-fed” or pork “corn-fed,” they’ll now tell customers that all of their menu is “farm-raised” and none of it comes from a lab. Cooking shows will begin to treat meat that we’d otherwise see discounted down at Wal-Mart like they’re prized delicacies because they have a “unique” quality (taste, smell, look, etc) that you can’t find in grown meat. The biggest victim of all this will be the factory farms which won’t be able to compete with grown meat but will still be too controversial to jump readily onto the “real” meat bandwagon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:03:43am

re: #192 ericblair

Well, Nebraska is the number one popcorn grower in the world. The world can always use more popcorn.

The governor’s attempt to misdirect the conservation donations from the state lottery to buying ethanol pumps for gas stations in California to undermine California’s electric car initiative blew up in his face.

Plus land here is good for growing other things like wheat, barley, sorghum, sunflowers, and hay. (Crop rotation here in the Panhandle seems to go as corn, wheat, sorghum, and sunflowers.)

I imagine there will always be a market for hoof-grown beef, but once prices of artifically-grown meats come down to the prices of the original recipe steer, those products will become commercially competitive.

And if they come in lower? Hoo boy that would really undermine cattle ranching.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:07:10am

re: #195 ericblair

The EU is dragging its ass on this, partly because the regulatory process for foods is slow, but I’d assume mostly that the governments are dreading the reaction from the European ag industry, who IMO are more politically powerful than the US ag industry. I’m sure we’ll get tonnes of cowshit dumped on legislature lawns on a regular basis and tractors blocking the highways.

The meat producing /packing industry is one of the few European industries that cannot be massively outsourced and is one of the few sources of jobs for people from rural areas with low education.

It is truly a sacred cow, so to speak.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:07:25am

Tom Flynn, Giant of American Freethought, Has Died at Age 66 (Obituary at the Center for Inquiry)

The world has lost a towering figure of American freethought, a man who was both on the cutting edge of secular humanist thought, as well as the foremost caretaker of its rich history. The entire Center for Inquiry family is anguished by the sudden and unexpected death of our colleague, teacher, and friend Tom Flynn at age 66.

Tom held numerous leadership roles during his more than thirty years with the Center for Inquiry, most recently as editor of Free Inquiry magazine, director of the Robert Green Ingersoll Birthplace Museum and the Freethought Trail, and former executive director of the Council for Secular Humanism.

But this collection of titles does not nearly convey the plainer truth, which is that Tom Flynn was the beating heart of the Center for Inquiry and indeed the wider freethought movement.

A stark rationalist and staunch atheist if ever there was one, Tom was nonetheless brimming with enthusiasm, curiosity, bold ideas, and perhaps most of all, humor. He had a deep love and encyclopedic knowledge of freethought history and devoted himself to the preservation and rediscovery of American freethought’s great untold stories.

At the same time, he was a true visionary whose future-focused ideas about religion, atheism, equality, and the existential crises we face as a global civilization were once considered radical but now seem prescient. He was a virtuoso of the written word, penning not only countless articles and essays but also science fiction novels and the defiantly revelatory book The Trouble with Christmas.Tom as “Anti-Claus”

(more at the link)

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:07:48am

Assuming grown meat can be made competitive or even cheaper than farmed meat, then the biggest advantage the latter will still have (at least immediately) will be that the former is really better suited to the processed meat market. I don’t know if it’s possible grown certain cuts of meat, particularly those involving bones that are called for in more traditional recipes. And there are just some purists who would never accept something like barbequed or smoked meats that were artificial in nature.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:08:19am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The meat producing /packing industry is one of the few European industries that cannot be massively outsourced and is one of the few sources of jobs for people from rural areas with low education.

It is truly a sacred cow, so to speak.

Sacred cows make the best burgers.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:09:57am

re: #200 Targetpractice

Assuming grown meat can be made competitive or even cheaper than farmed meat,

subsidies will play a major role in determining the “market” prices

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:21:37am

Who knew being hateful Christian diques is bad for business?

Alabama’s Capital Panics After Pro-LGBTQ+ Ordinance Fails (The Advocate, a pro-LGBT+ publication, August 23, 2021)

Montgomery, the capital of Alabama and a center of the African-American civil rights struggle, is reeling after the city council last week rejected an anti-discrimination ordinance codifying protections for race, religion, gender, marital status, and LGBTQ+ identity.

City leaders are concerned the council’s failure will encourage more companies to avoid doing business in Montgomery and instead choose seemingly more progressive places like Birmingham, the state’s largest city and a place that enacted pro-LGBTQ+ protections in 2017. The state of Alabama has no specific anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQ+ residents and, while the Supreme Court banned anti-LGBTQ+ workplace discrimination last year, bias is still legal in areas like housing, banking, and public accomodations (sic).

Councilwoman Marche Johnson told the Montgomery Advertiser that “we are stunting are own growth.” Johnson said at least five major corporations have rejected placing workers or offices in Montgomery just since May.

The business climate will likely only worsen following the council’s decision, where the proposed ordinance failed on a 4-5 vote. Council president Charles Jinright voted against it, claiming it wasn’t needed and that the city faced “more pressing issues.”

The Montgomery Chamber of Commerce supported the ordinance and said it bring business, employment, and tourism to the city. Officials also believe the ordinance’s failure discourages students from choosing Montgomery for their higher education; the city of 200,000 has seven colleges and universities.

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:24:34am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Literally “Peacockeyebrightlycoloredbass”

A language that boasts “antidisestablishmentarianism” in its lexicon should not point and snigger at German’s tendency to portmanteau[1] and concatenate words it finds lying on the floor after the cats have been on the counter.

[1] Don’t verb nouns.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:36:51am

A comment on Friendly Atheist, where a commentator noticed the right-wing lie machine already moving the goalposts with a new lie regarding the FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine.

But now it’s gotten full approval, and the right wing misinformation machine is in full swing. I want to debunk the first argument I’ve seen in case anyone else runs into it. The argument goes “it’s not full approval, it’s just an extension of the emergency use authorization (EUA), you can see it explicitly stated on page 13 of the FDA letter”.

That’s both true and not true. I looked into this and it took all of about ten seconds to figure out what was going on. At the same time the FDA gave full approval to the vaccine (under it’s new product name, Comirnaty) to be used on people aged 16 and above, it also extended the EUA for the vaccine to be used on people between the ages of 12 and 15 because they weren’t ready to give full authorization to that age group yet. It issued letters for both of those events, and the page 13 reference is for the EUA extension. The full approval for 16 years and up letter doesn’t even have a page 13.

fda.gov (FDA on the vaccine, with a link to the approval letter’s text, PDF, eleven pages)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:41:53am

In the category “the conservagrift must go on”:

Now Mike Lindell Predicts Trump’s Fantastical Reinstatement Before Year’s End (Yahoo!)

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:45:24am

re: #196 Targetpractice

Nah, I don’t see that happening, at least not overnight. No, I figure instead that you’ll see is “real” meat becoming enormously expensive as “faux” meat replaces it as a dietary staple. Just like pricey restaurants now boast about their beef being “grass-fed” or pork “corn-fed,” they’ll now tell customers that all of their menu is “farm-raised” and none of it comes from a lab. Cooking shows will begin to treat meat that we’d otherwise see discounted down at Wal-Mart like they’re prized delicacies because they have a “unique” quality (taste, smell, look, etc) that you can’t find in grown meat. The biggest victim of all this will be the factory farms which won’t be able to compete with grown meat but will still be too controversial to jump readily onto the “real” meat bandwagon.

Sure, I don’t think that this contradicts my point. Cultured meat will dominate the mass production end of the market, and therefore the market. You’ll have the real meat as a boutique item. You won’t destroy 100% of the market, but I bet the mass market makes up a lot more than 50% of beef production.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:46:52am

More like the War on Christmas.

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Ming5000  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:48:20am

re: #47 mmmirele

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:48:26am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More like the War on Christmas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:49:40am

re: #209 Ming5000

I’ll give that an upfist just because I can’t see it. That comment must be good. /s

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:54:30am

re: #207 ericblair

There’s a lot of marginal and unimproved land around the world that provides meat for market at quite low cost, comparatively speaking. Hill farms in Scotland, Mid-Western high prairie in the US, steppe in Asia, the Australian outback, Alpine meadows, the list goes on. The key is cheap land and lots of it providing limited fodder for a low density population of hardy meat animals like, say, bison or mammoths (I wish).

Vat-grown or artificial meats require energy to grow, usually electrical energy of some kind and right now the world is burning way too much fossil carbon to generate electricity as it is. Reindeer farmers in Finland’s northern forests don’t burn a lot of electricity.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 3:56:03am

re: #207 ericblair

Sure, I don’t think that this contradicts my point. Cultured meat will dominate the mass production end of the market, and therefore the market. You’ll have the real meat as a boutique item. You won’t destroy 100% of the market, but I bet the mass market makes up a lot more than 50% of beef production.

Pretty much like mass-market anything.

Our own Vivacious Babushka (spell check liked that) Pie Overlord can attest to that with her baking projects; there are the store brands of flour for the bottom end of the market with low profit but high sales, name brands like Gold Medal for those who want “premium” flours, and flours like King Arthur or Bob’s Red Mill.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:03:44am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On a related note, I kind of like the name “Vivacious Babushka.”

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:04:26am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

subsidies will play a major role in determining the “market” prices

As far as I can see, the US beef market is worth around $300 billion a year, and the total federal farm subsidies for all ag products in 2020 were around $40 billion, double the usual amount because of Trump’s trade war. I assume they’ll try, but that looks like a big lift.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:07:49am

According to the state, all farm subsidies in my state (including ranches) from 1995 to 2020 was a total of $15,363,000,000.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:11:46am

Woman sues Portland church and its former pastor, alleging sexual abuse, harassment and forced labor (The Oregonian, August 21, 2021)

A woman is suing a Portland church and its former pastor, alleging they forced her to work without pay at church-run businesses and the pastor sexually abused her after plying her with sex toys.

The woman’s brother tried to rescue his sister from the Adsideo Church, but she contends in the suit that she couldn’t leave the church home or businesses without an escort and was prevented from accessing her phone, electronics or other personal belongings.

(more)

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:15:54am

A severe thunderstorm warning has been issued for my area. We’re about to get flattened. Thankfully, the prevailing weather conditions are not indicative of tornado formation, or I might literally be getting flattened.

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:16:13am

re: #212 Nojay UK

There’s a lot of marginal and unimproved land around the world that provides meat for market at quite low cost, comparatively speaking. Hill farms in Scotland, Mid-Western high prairie in the US, steppe in Asia, the Australian outback, Alpine meadows, the list goes on. The key is cheap land and lots of it providing limited fodder for a low density population of hardy meat animals like, say, bison or mammoths (I wish).

Vat-grown or artificial meats require energy to grow, usually electrical energy of some kind and right now the world is burning way too much fossil carbon to generate electricity as it is. Reindeer farmers in Finland’s northern forests don’t burn a lot of electricity.

The study they quote says that culture production takes about 40% less energy per 1000kg of meat than conventional European farming (here). I’m guessing the hill farms will stay as sustainable premium meat. I like reindeer, by the way. And probably we’ll get at least cultured dodo and mammoth, because why not.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:30:49am

The Religion of Bacon

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:39:46am

re: #219 ericblair

The study they quote says that culture production takes about 40% less energy per 1000kg of meat than conventional European farming (here).

The issue is that to create “lab-grown” meat or similar cultured foods takes high-grade energy i.e. electricity and that means more fossil fuel being burned to generate that electricity, right now and well into the future. Hill farms and steppe herding don’t involve much fossil fuel consumption even if the amount of meat produced per hectare is low. Intensive-agriculture production of meat does use fossil fuels but even then a lot of the energy input per kilo of ranched meat is solar in nature, photosynthesis providing pasturage and even corn for finish-feedlot operations.

Speaking of herding, the sperm whale population worldwide has made a big comeback over the past few decades and is now ripe for harvesting…

ObMobyDick: “Look out, it’s coming right for us!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:46:54am

re: #204 Nojay UK

A language that boasts “antidisestablishmentarianism” in its lexicon should not point and snigger at German’s tendency to portmanteau[1] and concatenate words it finds lying on the floor after the cats have been on the counter.

[1] Don’t verb nouns.

“Antidisestablishmentarianism” stands out as an exception compared to a language that regularly produces gems like Rindfleischetikettierungsverordnung or Steuerhinterziehungsbekämpfungsgesetzesentwurf or Pfirsichstreuselblechkuchenschnitten. I cannot listen to the German radio news when I am driving or I am forced to pull over until those things quit rattling around in my head.

(“Beef labeling regulations”, “Draft Tax Evasion Legislation” and “Peach crumble cake slices” respectively)

Not to mention their word for a glove, a “Handschuh”.

Some years back when they started marketing socks with toes under the brand name Foot Gloves my brain nearly imploded when I asked myself what the Germans might call them…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:47:17am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the category “the conservagrift must go on”:

Now Mike Lindell Predicts Trump’s Fantastical Reinstatement Before Year’s End (Yahoo!)

Before which year’s end?

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:52:45am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More like the War on Christmas.

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not even as a guest…

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:52:52am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A friend who lives in Japan is always looking out for the longest “wall of kanji” he can find — Japanese Jouhou kanji characters with no intervening hiragana. It’s usually the name of a local government bureau (prefectural and city names are always good for three or even four characters to start with) or a new regulation of some sort. IIRC I think his record was 14 kanji in a row but it’s been a while since he announced a new discovery.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:54:16am

re: #221 Nojay UK

The issue is that to create “lab-grown” meat or similar cultured foods takes high-grade energy i.e. electricity and that means more fossil fuel being burned to generate that electricity, right now and well into the future. Hill farms and steppe herding don’t involve much fossil fuel consumption even if the amount of meat produced per hectare is low. Intensive-agriculture production of meat does use fossil fuels but even then a lot of the energy input per kilo of ranched meat is solar in nature, photosynthesis providing pasturage and even corn for finish-feedlot operations.

Speaking of herding, the sperm whale population worldwide has made a big comeback over the past few decades and is now ripe for harvesting…

ObMobyDick: “Look out, it’s coming right for us!”

The overwhelming majority of ranches are not Swiss-style valley farms or marginal steppe herding (remember, Nebraska is a steppe). The scale of industrial ranching uses fuquetonnes of electricity.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:54:24am
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:55:11am

Morning Lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:56:24am

re: #228 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Morning Lizards.

HI!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 4:58:20am

re: #225 Nojay UK

A friend who lives in Japan is always looking out for the longest “wall of kanji” he can find — Japanese Jouhou kanji characters with no intervening hiragana. It’s usually the name of a local government bureau (prefectural and city names are always good for three or even four characters to start with) or a new regulation of some sort. IIRC I think his record was 14 kanji in a row but it’s been a while since he announced a new discovery.

I go more for consonant density in German rather than word length, my most recent favorite is the word for mandatory vaccination: Impfpflicht, or a swarm of fishes: Fischschwarm, for flop sweat Angstschweiss; and having to shower before getting in the pool: Duschpflicht.
And the word for a fat droplet, probably my favorite: Fetttröpfchen

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:01:40am

re: #125 Dread Pirate Ron

Just a thing: she’s 65.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:02:50am

re: #231 Belafon

Just a thing: she’s 65.

Knock me over with a feather…

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:03:48am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I go more for consonant density in German rather than word length,

Going in the opposite direction, here’s a little word puzzle for you — find a five-letter word in English with four vowels, all different. Slang words are not permitted (so ‘outie’ doesn’t count).

The only example I can think of that fits this requirement is quite a common word, surprisingly enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:04:31am

re: #233 Nojay UK

Going in the opposite direction, here’s a little word puzzle for you — find a five-letter word in English with four vowels, all different. Slang words are not permitted (so ‘outie’ doesn’t count).

The only example I can think of that fits this requirement is quite a common word, surprisingly enough.

Get in the queue

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:05:43am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Get in the queue

All the vowels have to be different. Try again?

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:05:49am

re: #233 Nojay UK

Going in the opposite direction, here’s a little word puzzle for you — find a five-letter word in English with four vowels, all different. Slang words are not permitted (so ‘outie’ doesn’t count).

The only example I can think of that fits this requirement is quite a common word, surprisingly enough.

Audio.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:06:05am

we made it through the night
it was about 85 inside
a bit like an oven
so turn on the fans
ok like a convection oven

we’re supposed to be first on the list for service..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:10:05am

The Weather Prediction Center just issued their final update on post-tropical cyclone Henri.

…POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE HENRI MOVING EAST…
…HEAVY RAINFALL RISK IS ENDING…

SUMMARY OF 500 AM EDT…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…41.8N 70.4W
ABOUT 50 MI…85 KM E OF PROVIDENCE RHODE ISLAND
ABOUT 55 MI…90 KM SE OF BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…25 MPH…35 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…E OR 80 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1007 MB…29.74 INCHES

Henri is on the coast. It is expected to move out over the ocean and dissipate this afternoon. All flood watches and warnings have been dropped.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Ming5000  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:10:14am

Anti-vaxxer (succumbed to hoax) is for free insulin and chemo?
fuckedantivaxxer.com

This is a post from anti-vaxxer
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:11:14am

got a problem with a solar panel

i send this inquiry:

Connecting a multimeter reads 16 volts.

Connecting to our solar controller or even to a ZN09 wattmeter, the voltage drops to zero and there are no amps.

they reply:

Could you please use the multimeter to test the voltage and current of the solar panel, then provide us with a few pictures that can show the test results?

with my inquiry right below.

to be charitable, they need pictures, which couldnt possibly prove anything.
or the never read my three line inquiry

so i’ll send pictures proving i wasnt lying

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:11:18am

re: #239 Ming5000

Anti-vaxxer (succumbed to hoax) is for free insulin and chemo?
fuckedantivaxxer.com

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Yeah, I’ve seen that one around. Honestly, I’m sure we’d all be in favor of that, so I don’t know what their “argument” is here, aside from that our health care system in the US is completely fucked.

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:11:39am

re: #236 Jay C

Audio.

We have a winnah! Even more interesting, it doesn’t contain the most common vowel, ‘e’ which causes some people who have tried to solve this puzzle to get confused or distracted.

Next, find a thirteen letter English word that only has four different letters in it. It’s not hyphenated or a made-up name and, although not that common, is still used in modern English.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:14:47am

re: #239 Ming5000

This is Ben Shapiro logic, if diabetes and cancer were contagious, we would be.

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:15:27am

re: #239 Ming5000

Anti-vaxxer (succumbed to hoax) is for free insulin and chemo?

I’m going out later to pick up some free drugs from my local pharmacy. If I needed them I’d get free insulin and even chemotherapy drugs and I’m not special, anyone living where I do (Scotland) has the same deal going on.

Did the original poster have a point (apart from the one on the top of her head)?

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Ming5000  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:16:07am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is Ben Shapiro logic, if diabetes and cancer were contagious, we would be.

I also hope that someday those things will be universally covered

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:16:39am

re: #244 Nojay UK

Did the original poster have a point (apart from the one on the top of her head)?

VACCINE BAD! BIG PHARMA BAD! BIG GOVERNMENT BAD! MAINSTREAM MEDIA BAD!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:17:41am

re: #236 Jay C

Audio.

Adieu (accepted now as an English ripoff of French)
aurei (plural of aureus, coin of ancient Rome)
ourie (depressing or dismal, also shivering with cold)
Louie

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jeffreyw  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:17:43am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:18:22am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I go more for consonant density in German rather than word length, my most recent favorite is the word for mandatory vaccination: Impfpflicht, or a swarm of fishes: Fischschwarm, for flop sweat Angstschweiss; and having to shower before getting in the pool: Duschpflicht.
And the word for a fat droplet, probably my favorite: Fetttröpfchen

if iirc longest english word with one vowel is 9 letters

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Ming5000  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:19:13am

re: #244 Nojay UK

I’m going out later to pick up some free drugs from my local pharmacy. If I needed them I’d get free insulin and even chemotherapy drugs and I’m not special, anyone living where I do (Scotland) has the same deal going on.

Did the original poster have a point (apart from the one on the top of her head)?

The poster was a prolific anti-vaxxer who posted lots of things arguing that the poke was a stupid/dangerous idea. I am not sure what is point was in this case.
The website linked was highlighted above by a specific mouse. Interesting perusing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:20:14am
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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:21:50am

re: #240 Dangerman

Sounds like something in the panel has gone high-resistance and is thus current-limiting the output. A high-impedance voltmeter pulls very little current so it shows a potential of 16V across the output. Anything that tries to draw more than a few microamps from the panel like your solar controller or your ‘power meter’ pulls the potential down to effectively zero. You’d probably get different readings from different voltmeters depending on their construction.

If it’s an individual cell that’s gone high-impedance then the entire panel is fucked. It might be the final connection to the array that’s problematic but I can’t diagnose that for you.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:21:54am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is Ben Shapiro logic, if diabetes and cancer were contagious, we would be.

if we had a sane healthcare system we would be

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:24:29am

re: #250 Ming5000

As opposed to a non-specific mouse? /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:25:09am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:25:47am

re: #244 Nojay UK

I’m going out later to pick up some free drugs from my local pharmacy. If I needed them I’d get free insulin and even chemotherapy drugs and I’m not special, anyone living where I do (Scotland) has the same deal going on.

Did the original poster have a point (apart from the one on the top of her head)?

Best guess? “If it’s ‘free,’ then there’s obviously something wrong it. If it worked, then they would be charging for it!” The idea is to play on people’s distrust of anything advertised as “free,” that there’s usually some hidden “catch” that secretly jacks up the price.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:29:43am

My neighbour the VA nurse has acquired a watch chicken, a Rhode Island Red rooster. Get anywhere near her yard and the rooster acts like an alarm bell dog.

She’s keeping the rooster as a pet: It is in a fancy wire enclosure with a two-storey house, toys, landscaping, &c.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:30:13am

re: #256 Targetpractice

Best guess? “If it’s ‘free,’ then there’s obviously something wrong it. If it worked, then they would be charging for it!” The idea is to play on people’s distrust of anything advertised as “free,” that there’s usually some hidden “catch” that secretly jacks up the price.

Or that it is part of a secret government/Soros plot to get us all hooked…

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:31:42am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Or that it is part of a secret government/Soros plot to get us all hooked…

Hence the “free” part, that a shadowy conspiracy is footing the bill to get the vaccines developed and distributed with a sinister motive in mind.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:32:17am

re: #252 Nojay UK

Sounds like something in the panel has gone high-resistance and is thus current-limiting the output. A high-impedance voltmeter pulls very little current so it shows a potential of 16V across the output. Anything that tries to draw more than a few microamps from the panel like your solar controller or your ‘power meter’ pulls the potential down to effectively zero. You’d probably get different readings from different voltmeters depending on their construction.

If it’s an individual cell that’s gone high-impedance then the entire panel is fucked. It might be the final connection to the array that’s problematic but I can’t diagnose that for you.

exactly right on all counts

but dont trust the consumer so we have to do this dance first

instead of just saying ‘replace this 6 month old thing’ i’ll let them suggest it

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:34:22am

re: #260 Dangerman

exactly right on all counts

but dont trust the consumer so we have to do this dance first

instead of just saying ‘replace this 6 month old thing’ i’ll let them suggest it

That’s always the frustrating part. Like with my ISP over the weekend; I get why they don’t trust me. I’m not an expert in their field, and even if I was, I don’t work for them and don’t have access to the information they do. But at the same time, it’s like, I have physical evidence that what you’re telling me is bullshit, and I’d like you to at least take me seriously, even if you still need to verify things with your own equipment. Don’t just tell me, “Buy our expensive equipment,” and close the call.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:35:05am

re: #90 teleskiguy

Your article led me to this :

A Biblical Defense of Fake Vaccine IDs

More proof that the Bible can be used to support any POV that you wish to defend. I only skimmed it, but holy hell there is some seriously crappy logic employed.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:37:23am

re: #262 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Your article led me to this :

A Biblical Defense of Fake Vaccine IDs

More proof that the Bible can be used to support any POV that you wish to defend. I only skimmed it, but holy hell there is some seriously crappy logic employed.

the bible says no abortions and no gay sex so therefore no vaccine ids.

QED

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:39:32am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:39:37am

re: #262 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Your article led me to this :

A Biblical Defense of Fake Vaccine IDs

More proof that the Bible can be used to support any POV that you wish to defend. I only skimmed it, but holy hell there is some seriously crappy logic employed.

So basically, as I understand the article (and I only just started reading the first few paragraphs, as it quickly became too odious to continue): The government is lying to us, therefore lying back to them is perfectly okay and even encouraged. That’s about the least Christlike thing I can possibly imagine, but that’s modern American Christianity for you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:40:06am

“He who does not work, he shall not eat” = children, handicapped and old people should be left to starve…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:40:43am

re: #265 Dopamine Fish

So basically, as I understand the article (and I only just started reading the first few paragraphs, as it quickly became too odious to continue): The government is lying to us, therefore lying back to them is perfectly okay and even encouraged. That’s about the least Christlike thing I can possibly imagine, but that’s modern American Christianity for you.

Modern American Fundamentalist Christianity is about owning the Liberals

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:40:54am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:41:36am

re: #263 Dangerman

the bible says no abortions and no gay sex so therefore no vaccine ids.

QED

Even though the Bible has instructions on how to induce an abortion and has gay sex.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:42:22am

re: #265 Dopamine Fish

So basically, as I understand the article (and I only just started reading the first few paragraphs, as it quickly became too odious to continue): The government is lying to us, therefore lying back to them is perfectly okay and even encouraged. That’s about the least Christlike thing I can possibly imagine, but that’s modern American Christianity for you.

Ayep, the crowd that insists that Muslims can’t be trusted because (according to them) the Quran encourages lying to “infidels” is declaring that lying to the government is perfectly awesome if you profit from it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:43:13am

re: #218 Dopamine Fish

A severe thunderstorm warning has been issued for my area. We’re about to get flattened. Thankfully, the prevailing weather conditions are not indicative of tornado formation, or I might literally be getting flattened.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:43:14am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“He who does not work, he shall not eat” = children, handicapped and old people should be left to starve…

Even though that rule was instituted specifically against lazy people, and the early Church was notorious as a group that shared everything with each other - to the point where lying about your contributions to the group was punishable by death from God Himself (see: Ananias and Sapphira, in the Book of Acts)

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:44:37am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ayep! We just had a second round pass over the house. I’m hoping this will encourage the grass seed I put down last week to get started; my yard is seriously damaged from the severe drought conditions at the height of summer.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:44:45am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“He who does not work, he shall not eat” = children, handicapped and old people should be left to starve…

And quoted out of context of the passage (something thrown at counter-apologists when citing the pro-slavery, pro-rape, pro-genocide passages).

It also appears in Vladimir Lenin’s book “The State and Revolution” (1917) on the necessities of a communist society.

QED, the Bible is communist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:47:17am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:51:31am

Christian apologist “The Transformed Wife” upholding the Taliban as a better example of living than the United States.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:52:24am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Even though the Bible has instructions on how to induce an abortion and has gay sex.

dont look over there, look over here

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:53:54am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christian apologist “The Transformed Wife” upholding the Taliban as a better example of living than the United States.

“The Transformed Wife” = “I was religion-shamed into being a sex slave for a man and now I’m trying to justify myself because I feel conflicted and don’t understand why.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:54:22am

I am so glad that God gave our Founding Fathers the divine wisdom to separate Church and State and not let theological disputes directly shape legislation or government policy.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:55:09am
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:55:19am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christian apologist “The Transformed Wife” upholding the Taliban as a better example of living than the United States.

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stopped at the first line because, zero

because by babies, you mean not actual babies

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:57:24am

re: #281 Dangerman

stopped at the first line because, zero

because by babies, you mean not actual babies

Fundamentalism is Fundamentalism, their policies are much the same: anti-abortion, anti LGBTQ rights, anti-vaccine, pro-theocracy, they just vary in the style and details.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 5:59:26am

re: #278 Dopamine Fish

“The Transformed Wife” = “I was religion-shamed into being a sex slave for a man and now I’m trying to justify myself because I feel conflicted and don’t understand why.”

After I got a college degree and was a teacher, and now tell young women and girls why they should never get college degrees or work at all other than housework and raising children.

She also sabotaged her birth control to have a second child without her husband’s consent.

Despite claiming children should be homeschooled and public schools are the cause of the demise of the family, all four of her children went to public school.

She also believes it’s proper to hit infants who aren’t behaving.

Lori Alexander (Fundamentalist Wiki, with sources linked in the article for all her horrid beliefs)

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:00:43am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She also sabotaged her birth control to have a second child without her husband’s consent.

That’s very on brand for these folks. I’ve mentioned before - the only woman I’ve ever felt a desire to physically strike, in my life, was a “quiver-full” woman who cast aspersions at my mom because she had her tubes tied after life-threatening complications during my birth.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:00:43am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fundamentalism is Fundamentalism, their policies are much the same: anti-abortion, anti LGBTQ rights, anti-vaccine, pro-theocracy, they just vary in the style and details.

lying is lying as long as it makes my point //

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steve_davis  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:00:46am

funny conversation with my brother the drummer about how he counts 12/8 (12 beats, eighth note takes one beat: typical slow blues count). “I don’t know. I’ve never counted it. I just feel it.” Then he says the same thing about 7/4. “Hell, I don’t know how to count 7/4. I just kind of feel where it’s at.”

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:02:36am
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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:02:43am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro. We’re about to embark on yet another heat wave, which will help dry out those areas that are dealing with flooding. But that’s not what has me pissed off.

It’s that there’s a GOPer running for governor in NJ who thinks Gov. Murphy’s mandates for vaccinations for teachers somehow gives students the right to opt out of masking.

The dumbassery and fact-free bulkshit from GOP is never ending. Students under 12 can’t get vaccinations, so their only protection against covid comes from others being vaccinated and masking. There’s no other way. Getting tested regularly means you’re willing to get your kid jabbed with needles or swabs deep into their nasal passages on a weekly/biweekly basis? It’s easier to just mask. Sheesh.

Teachers can opt to vaccinate or get regular testing.

NYC teachers don’t have that option. They have to get vaccinated. Teachers can still get tested regularly, and one teacher I know made an interesting observation. They don’t necessarily want their superiors to know their vaccination status, and it’s important to know if you’re covid free by testing, especially since he has kids at home who can’t get vaccinated. So, he’ll be vaccinated, and get tested regularly, just to be sure that he’s not exposing anyone else to covid (including casa lawhawk).

All of these fuckers on the right braying about their rights being undermined seem to ignore everyone’s freedom to avoid getting covid, and that part of being in a civil society means doing things for the greater good. The greatest good we can hope for is getting everyone vaccinated to stomp out covid and to ease burden on hospitals and health care workers, and that will do more to supercharge the economy than rushing back before people are vaccinated and when people aren’t masking.

The states with the highest covid outbreaks are the GOP states that have done the least to contain covid. They’re actively trying to kill people. There’s no other way around it. And they just don’t fucking care.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:05:07am

re: #288 lawhawk

That’s because they don’t recognize the Right to Life as a fundamental right. In their minds, their freedom to do whatever the fuck they want trumps other people’s desire to live. See, e.g., their ardent support for: War; policemen playing judge, jury, and executioner; and the death penalty for as many crimes as they can plausibly posit warrant death.

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Mattand  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:07:19am

re: #288 lawhawk

If you’re talking about Jack Ciattarelli, last I read he’s getting crushed in the polls by Murphy. So there’s that, at least.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:07:27am

re: #287 Dangerman

The Tweet of God moonlights as Nihilist Arby’s.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:08:49am

So, one of the reasons some folks are hesitant to vaccinate is a fear of needles. I get that. My brother has fainted after getting needle sticks.

And yet, the fear of intubation and dying from covid19 should be more empowering to get vaccinated.

But can’t look forward to reveal
Look to the time when I’ll live
Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me

It’s straight out of Metallica’s One. Unable to do anything and potentially wishing for death because it’s better than the unbearable pain of suffocating to death because you didn’t get vaccinated. Potentially dying alone because hospitals can’t allow others in and that ICU facilities typically have limits on access.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:10:28am

re: #292 lawhawk

I don’t like needles, I just look away for the two seconds that it takes.

But I must admit that when I have to give a blood sample and have a needle stuck in my arm for any length of time, it is very difficult…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:11:57am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:17:40am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

After I got a college degree and was a teacher, and now tell young women and girls why they should never get college degrees or work at all other than housework and raising children.

She also sabotaged her birth control to have a second child without her husband’s consent.

Despite claiming children should be homeschooled and public schools are the cause of the demise of the family, all four of her children went to public school.

She also believes it’s proper to hit infants who aren’t behaving.

Lori Alexander (Fundamentalist Wiki, with sources linked in the article for all her horrid beliefs)

Yep. Sounds like my brainwashed Xtian sisters and their kids.

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Mattand  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:17:45am

Speaking of NJ politics: just got some text spam from some GOP group called the RGA.

I know no one is reading it and I’ve probably opened myself up for more, but I regret nothing.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:17:56am

Here’s an interesting video - my dad took this ship on his Hawaiian honeymoon with his first wife in the early 1950s.

SS Lurline: Matson’s Queen of the Pacific

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:18:15am

Incels go to bathrooms in groups to take comfort in seeing that everyone else there has a tiny little needle dick…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:19:57am

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is what actually happens in women’s bathrooms (or so I’ve been told)…

Ghost - Dance Macabre

(skip to 1:40 if you don’t want to see the prologue part)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:21:20am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:21:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:23:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:24:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:25:05am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

We are really paying for all those cuts in public education funding that started under Reagan.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:25:14am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

Edited - refresh that. Posted the S.S. Lurline video by accident.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:25:49am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is Ben Shapiro logic, if diabetes and cancer were contagious, we would be.

Yeah, that was my thought. I can’t catch cancer or diabetes from the person sitting next to me on the bus. If that were the case I would have diabetes since my wife is a type 1 juvenile diabetic for over 55 years and we have been together for 22 years. I would have acquired it by now.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:25:54am

re: #292 lawhawk

I F-ing HATE needles. It’s why I have a love/hate relation with my HRT. Every Friday morning I get to stick myself. No, not with THAT harpoon needle

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:26:52am

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t know who’s behind that account (it’s obviously a satirical account), but whomever they are, they’re pretty brilliant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:27:51am

re: #306 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, that was my thought. I can’t catch cancer or diabetes from the person sitting next to me on the bus. If that were the case I would have diabetes since my wife is a type 1 juvenile diabetic for over 55 years and we have been together for 22 years. I would have acquired it by now.

But Ben is good with these sort of polemic arguments that leave out key details and nuances: you have to be very careful. People like that barge in, set off a mass of rhetorical flash-bombs, make their “point” and then leave gloating triumphantly.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:29:32am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:36:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:39:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:40:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:41:26am

Trump would have gotten a big, beautiful extension, and the Taliban would have paid for it!

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:43:27am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait, we’ve relocated over 60,000 people. The same talking heads who were claiming we couldn’t move 50,000 by the end of the month? We’ve already moved that many and can now move out more than 10k a day.

What are the limiting factors here?

GOP refusal to allow resettlement in the US because they’re afraid that people desperate for a better life are coming here and they aren’t white Christians. They’re racist/nativists, who are a funhouse mirror version of the very Taliban they claim are awful/evil.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:44:06am

Kentucky’s healthcare system is close to collapse, but it’s ok, because the Republicans now in charge have a secret plan which doesn’t violate the rahts of anti-maskers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:45:31am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:46:04am

Frustrating NPR reporting this morning: they gave significant time to both Fmr. Ambassador Crocker and to Leon Panetta to say things like “this isn’t the Joe Biden I knew”; and “Joe was an internationalist, I’m not sure what happened to him.” So far as I can tell, they had no one on to make the correct counterpoints. Super disappointing.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:47:54am

FDA approval moves up United by a full month (from the hill):

Earlier this month, United Airlines announced it would require all 67,000 of its U.S. employees to get vaccinated within five weeks of FDA approval or Oct. 25, whichever comes first. A United Airlines spokesperson confirmed Monday that all eligible workers must get vaccinated by Sept. 27 or risk getting fired.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:48:04am

re: #318 Barefoot Grin

Frustrating NPR reporting this morning: they gave significant time to both Fmr. Ambassador Crocker and to Leon Panetta to say things like “this isn’t the Joe Biden I knew”; and “Joe was an internationalist, I’m not sure what happened to him.” So far as I can tell, they had no one on to make the correct counterpoints. Super disappointing.

NPR is useless. Just another cog in the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine thanks to their corporate underwriting.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:49:05am

Off to the store. If everything goes according to plan today, I’ll be making up a batch of whole wheat tortillas for Taco Tuesday. Back in a bit.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:50:07am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haven’t got it yet doesn’t mean won’t

I’m snapping my fingers every day to ward off covid.
So far, its working

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:50:40am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:51:05am

re: #320 JOE 🥓

NPR is useless. Just another cog in the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine thanks to their corporate underwriting.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the case.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:52:09am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Taliban: no extensions!

Ok no $9b and drone bombing for a year

Taliban: will two weeks be enough?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:54:41am
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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:56:06am

Fruman’s flipping on Rudy.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:57:06am

re: #325 Dangerman

Taliban: no extensions!

Ok no $9b and drone bombing for a year

Taliban: will two weeks be enough?

Further you know they’re *already* writing the inevitable stories of those left behind or couldn’t get out/to the airports or died or were killed, hence the whole airlift was a disaster, benghazi -like

All they have left is to fill in the names dates and places, and art, gotta have art

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 6:58:36am
The test of competence and of leadership is not about how you operate on your best day. It’s about how you operate when the chips are down, when things are difficult, when you need to adapt and make decisions.”

— White House press secretary Jen Psaki, quoted by the Washington Post.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:00:27am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

Considering that a significant percentage of all Americans are obese, including many of these self styled couch commandoes and chairborne rangers who cosplay as fascist fuckers with Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, this isn’t the argument they think.

Obesity is one risk factor, but hardly the only one.

Nearly half of all Americans have preexisting conditions, many of which can add to covid risks. Asthma. COPD. Cancer. RSV.

Not that these fuckers care. They just cherry pick nonsense, ignoring that covid doesn’t care about anything except spreading to its next victim. It doesn’t care about your politics or your wishful thinking that ivermectin keeps you safe, or that masks inhibit your freedumb.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:00:49am

re: #327 darthstar

Fruman’s flipping on Rudy.

Emptywheel has a good write up on the Parnas/Fruman/Rudy thing…

emptywheel.net

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Nojay UK  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:01:21am

re: #325 Dangerman

Taliban: no extensions!

Ok no $9b and drone bombing for a year

Taliban: will two weeks be enough?

I think you’re overestimating the leverage of some funds outside the Taliban government’s control compared to what they can make out of the local opium crop, free and clear every year and no money laundering controls or busybodies looking over their shoulders and telling them the money has to be spent on “infrastructure”.

Drone bombing? They’ve been worked over by experts like the Soviet Union, the hard bastards that took down the Nazis at a slow walk. The current score is: two millenia of itinerant invaders 0, local Afghan peoples 1. Unless you’re willing to talk Timurlane or the Great Khans and their approach to the development of conquered territories, GTFO.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:07:31am

re: #332 Nojay UK

I think you’re overestimating the leverage of some funds outside the Taliban government’s control compared to what they can make out of the local opium crop, free and clear every year and no money laundering controls or busybodies looking over their shoulders and telling them the money has to be spent on “infrastructure”.

Drone bombing? They’ve been worked over by experts like the Soviet Union, the hard bastards that took down the Nazis at a slow walk. The current score is: two millenia of itinerant invaders 0, local Afghan peoples 1. Unless you’re willing to talk Timurlane or the Great Khans and their approach to the development of conquered territories, GTFO.

Only as no extensions compared to maybe two more weeks

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:15:34am

re: #320 JOE 🥓

NPR is useless. Just another cog in the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine thanks to their corporate underwriting.

There’s an easy way to end the corporate underwriting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:17:08am

re: #334 Belafon

There’s an easy way to end the corporate underwriting.

yep, let Fox News, Sinclair or Newsmax buy it out…

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:18:38am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What the past 18+ months has truly demonstrated to me is that the saying about “lies, damned lies, and statistics” remains true to this day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:23:29am

re: #336 Targetpractice

What the past 18+ months has truly demonstrated to me is that the saying about “lies, damned lies, and statistics” remains true to this day.

and what I said about social media only being useful for keeping up with friends, family, food pr0n and stupid jokes likewise.

I have blocked or unfriended a lot of people who spread BS and disinformation in the name of “alternate points of view”

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:24:54am
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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:26:31am

And this is the big thing: This is probably the largest data collected for a drug in US history:

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:28:24am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:28:50am

re: #339 Belafon

And this is the big thing: This is probably the largest data collected for a drug in US history:

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Which to anti-vaxxers will only further their belief that there’s something being “hidden.”

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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:30:25am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yep, let Fox News, Sinclair or Newsmax buy it out…

Why should they? NPR already sold out to the Kochs.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:31:45am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:32:35am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all persuasions, I give you…..

…the German language!

I have a book on mollusks somewhere that includes a (long) list of species — the formal genus/species followed by their common names in several languages, one of them German. There were many blanks in the other languages, but every. single. one. had a German “common” name.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:33:49am

re: #339 Belafon

And this is the big thing: This is probably the largest data collected for a drug in US history:

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not enough data for me //

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:34:48am

re: #338 Belafon

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They’re now waiting for breathless anticipation for Sept 1st and the hope that an American will finally be killed so they finally have a “martyr” that viewers back home care about.

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:35:30am

re: #345 Dangerman

not enough data for me //

YEAH,! Has that data been VETTED?!?!?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:35:41am

re: #346 Targetpractice

They’re now waiting for breathless anticipation for Sept 1st and the hope that an American will finally be killed so they finally have a “martyr” that viewers back home care about.

and Biden will be his “murderer”

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:35:44am

re: #339 Belafon

And this is the big thing: This is probably the largest data collected for a drug in US history:

It’s triggering mandates across the country and it’s wonderful. California community colleges will now require vaccines…that’s huge because they reach into the rural corner pockets in the state - largely conservative bubbles of vaccine hesitant people - ranchers, lumber, construction, farming…mostly addicted to Fox when it comes to news. (I know a lot of these people personally from growing up around them)

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:35:57am

If I had a kid under 12, I would be hunting for a doctor at that point.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:37:25am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:37:29am

re: #347 Jay C

YEAH,! Has that data been VETTED?!?!?!

“I won’t accept the FDA’s approval until a Youtube celebrity I trust has vetted the data!”

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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:38:43am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:39:22am

This reminds me of that Trump supporter that said: “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

Because everyone knows we elect Presidents to specifically fuck over certain segments of the population we don’t like.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:41:01am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yet four soldiers were killed in Mali during Trumpism and Republicans said peep. They couldn’t even muster up outrage when Trump told the pregnant widow that her husband knew what he signed up for.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:42:34am

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:42:47am

re: #119 JOE 🥓

Facebook blocked me from linking fuckedantivaxxer.com

BUT

Marky Mark lets those Ivermectin Idiots post any fucking antivax item.

Exactly. Satirical images about 5G and Antivaxx and other refuseniks? Not okay.
15 minute vaccine misinformation video? 👍

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:43:46am

re: #356 darthstar

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:45:04am

re: #151 Dread Pirate Ron

Perils of buying the cheapest electrical bike without a proper BMS… I’ve seen that more than once, then the shady manufacturer tries to wriggle out of responsibility by means of technobabble.

Always check around when buying one.

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:47:08am

re: #355 Patricia Kayden

Yet four soldiers were killed in Mali during Trumpism and Republicans said peep. The only couldn’t even muster up outrage when Trump told the pregnant widow that her husband knew what he signed up for.

Niger, not Mali.

And an unfortunate incidence of bad intelligence leading to a tragic outcome: which is far from uncommon in war.
Though Trump’s callous dismissal was well out of the usual norm of Presidential remarks in these cases- and yes, pretty much zip in the way of either comment or serious investigation fro GOPers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:52:09am

re: #358 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

hard to believe that they have to post notices like that

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:52:31am

re: #307 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

I F-ing HATE needles. It’s why I have a love/hate relation with my HRT. Every Friday morning I get to stick myself. No, not with THAT harpoon needle

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:cringes: That’s beyond my limit.
Like, I can hack anything less than a transfusion peripheral vein catheter or any needle shorter than 65 mm….

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:53:13am

re: #344 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I have a book on mollusks somewhere that includes a (long) list of species — the formal genus/species followed by their common names in several languages, one of them German. There were many blanks in the other languages, but every. single. one. had a German “common” name.

The Germans have a word for damn near everything. Especially animals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:55:50am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

And they have a feminine term for each as well.

Their word for “peackock” is Pfau, so I guess the female is a Pfrau…

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:56:53am

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:57:26am

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 7:59:40am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

hard to believe that they have to post notices like that

dont stand this ladder in shit and then climb on it
dont use this hair dryer in the bathtub (or shower!)
dont drive with (opaque) windshield sunscreen in place

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:00:47am

The “liberal media” was really hoping for a Fall of Saigon scenario and have no use for extreme competence after four years of flailing bullshittery, so they’re now shifting to Biden’s next “failure”: Nine Dem conservatives (sorry, “moderates”) trying to renege on the deal they’d made weeks ago to vote on the reconciliation bill before they got a vote on the bipartisan bill because they’re afraid of MAGAts back home hating them for spending more than the approved “jack” and “shit.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:01:38am

My 12 year-old nephew is confirmed Covid positive. Got infected at his school where masks are banned. He feels like garbage and can’t smell or taste.

I’m hoping he stays out of the hospital because the hospital situation down here is…not good.

Also, his parents aren’t vaccinated because freedom.

FUCK Republicans.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:02:15am

re: #345 Dangerman

Imagine trying to get aspirin approved today with tens of millions of data points, including side effects. It might get a red band warning because serious injury and deaths can occur. It isn’t allowed for children as it can cause death. It can kill people with bleeding disorders. It can cause serious injuries for those with ulcers.

Etc.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:02:47am

re: #362 Teukka

:cringes: That’s beyond my limit.
Like, I can hack anything less than a transfusion peripheral vein catheter or any needle shorter than 65 mm….

not to minimize anyone’s discomfort here
there are not 15m american men not vaxxing because they are afraid of a needle - and a more or less tiny one at that

i just put a powered screwdriver bit through my finger and i’m not complaining
though i am experiencing side effects …

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:04:52am

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:05:10am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

The Germans have a word for damn near everything…

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so do the French //

YouTube

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:07:43am

re: #193 Nyet

Uploaded my article from that book to Academia.

academia.edu

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:10:31am

re: #368 Targetpractice

The “liberal media” was really hoping for a Fall of Saigon scenario and have no use for extreme competence after four years of flailing bullshittery, so they’re now shifting to Biden’s next “failure”: Nine Dem conservatives (sorry, “moderates”) trying to renege on the deal they’d made weeks ago to vote on the reconciliation bill before they got a vote on the bipartisan bill because they’re afraid of MAGAts back home hating them for spending more than the approved “jack” and “shit.”

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:15:03am

re: #369 Eclectic Cyborg

My 12 year-old nephew is confirmed Covid positive. Got infected at his school where masks are banned. He feels like garbage and can’t smell or taste.

I’m hoping he stays out of the hospital because the hospital situation down here is…not good.

Also, his parents aren’t vaccinated because freedom.

FUCK Republicans.

i posted that a dear friend, her husband and mom all got covid. serious covid.
i assumed unvaccinated.

we had a chat
they thought they all had covid a year ago
so they thought they were protected
and so they didnt vax yet
they did mask, distance and mostly do everything right. they were vigilant enough
they think they know who brought it into their house and when one got it, all three did

yeah, shouldnt have assumed
and should have asked a professional whether to vax anyway

just partially misinformed, my lifelong friend is not a nut who i have to disown

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:15:31am

Oh… Rudy… you’re fucked. It’s hilarious watching the same methods Rudy used to take down mobsters now be used to take Rudy and his cronies down.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:17:21am

One of my remaining R’s on FB has died of Covid. He was a hardcore trumpster, so he followed whatever his media told him to do.

I find his death and the deaths of all the others who believe in Fox tragic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:17:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:17:40am

re: #377 lawhawk

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Oh… Rudy… you’re fucked. It’s hilarious watching the same methods Rudy used to take down mobsters now be used to take Rudy and his cronies down.

One can only assume that he thought he would be safe in Trump’s shadow forever…

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:17:55am

re: #375 Belafon

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Personal guess? It’s not the spending, it’s the pay-fors that consist largely of raising taxes on the upper brackets. They’re scared shitless if they vote for those tax increases, next year they’ll be dodging questions on why they raised taxes on “working class Americans” while their Republican opponent promises to repeal those tax increases on “job creators.”

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:19:50am

Is this just me, or does this have the scent of classical Chinese, DPRK and Soviet propaganda?

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:20:39am

re: #376 Dangerman

i posted that a dear friend, her husband and mom all got covid. serious covid.
i assumed unvaccinated.

we had a chat
they thought they all had covid a year ago
so they thought they were protected
and so they didnt vax yet
they did mask, distance and mostly do everything right. they were vigilant enough
they think they know who brought it into their house and when one got it, all three did

yeah, shouldnt have assumed
and should have asked a professional whether to vax anyway

just partially misinformed, my lifelong friend is not a nut who i have to disown

The bolded is why all these “natural immunity” assholes cause me to start grinding my teeth. They’re gambling on the off-chance that that cough they had last year means they’re permanently protected, some deluded enough to believe that they’ve even got better immunity than those who’ve received the vaccines. But they’re not just gambling with their own lives, they’re gambling with the lives of others for no other reason than to appease their own foolish pride.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:21:41am
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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:21:46am

re: #383 Targetpractice

The bolded is why all these “natural immunity” assholes cause me to start grinding my teeth. They’re gambling on the off-chance that that cough they had last year means they’re permanently protected, some deluded enough to believe that they’ve even got better immunity than those who’ve received the vaccines. But they’re not just gambling with their own lives, they’re gambling with the lives of others for no other reason than to appease their own foolish pride.

It’s not chicken pox. You can get it more than once.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:22:19am

re: #382 Teukka

The Taliban have posted a video showing them doing construction work in Afghanistan, saying its “Time to Roll up sleeves and Build Afghanistan”

they didn’t waste any time getting Infrastructure Week kicked off

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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:22:26am

Hmmmmmmm

Anyone hear from Scott Atlas lately?

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:22:27am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One can only assume that he thought he would be safe in Trump’s shadow forever…

not sure that’s where he was //

but wherever it was, nice to see america’s mayor who figured he was latched on and soaring fall because ETTD

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:23:01am

I have another friend whose whole family got Covid.

I asked her if she was going to get vaccinated. Of course she’s not. (She’s hardcore Christian)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:23:48am

re: #388 Dangerman

not sure that’s where he was //

but wherever it was, nice to see america’s mayor who figured he was latched on and soaring fall because ETTD

Rudi thought he was safe, shoulda known better…unless he had some serious kompromat to bargain with

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:24:49am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:25:05am

re: #248 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:26:17am

re: #383 Targetpractice

The bolded is why all these “natural immunity” assholes cause me to start grinding my teeth. They’re gambling on the off-chance that that cough they had last year means they’re permanently protected, some deluded enough to believe that they’ve even got better immunity than those who’ve received the vaccines. But they’re not just gambling with their own lives, they’re gambling with the lives of others for no other reason than to appease their own foolish pride.

yes
they did not confirm they had it
and they didnt look deeply enough into what having it might and might not protect against

not just cause i know them personally, this is what happens when otherwise more or less reasonable people are deluged with too much mis-information and outright anti-information

rather than taking time to investigate, they superficially latch onto a thing and assume…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:26:19am
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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:26:20am

re: #385 sagehen

re: #383 Targetpractice

The bolded is why all these “natural immunity” assholes cause me to start grinding my teeth. They’re gambling on the off-chance that that cough they had last year means they’re permanently protected, some deluded enough to believe that they’ve even got better immunity than those who’ve received the vaccines. But they’re not just gambling with their own lives, they’re gambling with the lives of others for no other reason than to appease their own foolish pride.

It’s not chicken pox. You can get it more than once.

Also, “natural” immunity tends strongly to be geared towards the variant that you got infected with, so it takes less change in the next variant for it to be able to infect you. I know that at least the mRNA vaccines offer a slightly wider area it protects against.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:26:24am

Beau has a new t-shirt:

Let’s talk about civilians, equipment, troops in that order….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:26:39am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

How would that work exactly? For example: I’m employed by a nationwide company but my job is based out of Ohio. My company mandates vaccines. At that point, I can just say: “Sorry, I live in Ohio, you can’t do that”, and be exempt?

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:27:22am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ohio Business: You’re insurance premiums will go up $300/month if you don’t get a vaccine.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:27:48am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

monkey see monkey do

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:27:48am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fucking hell. I hope the hospital staff can stop that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:28:21am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

God Bless Ye, Mary Gentlemen!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:29:09am

re: #373 Dangerman

so do the French //

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Video

LOL I had that album on 8-Track.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:30:14am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking hell. I hope the hospital staff can stop that.

If he’s on a covid ward, there’s no visitors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:30:44am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:31:17am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the entire concept laughable in itself,
you couldnt get ‘hospital admin’ to approve you bringing aspirin into a hospital

you want to treat him, take him to your home and free up the bed

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:31:42am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, were I hospital admin, I’d make it clear to Dennis that A) the hospital will not accept liability if dies from that medication and B) his family will be getting the full bill from their insurer for taking a medication that was neither approved nor prescribed to him.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:32:29am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least Mr. Meiser won’t have worms. So there’s that, I guess.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:33:02am

re: #407 Dr Lizardo

At least Mr. Meiser won’t have worms. So there’s that, I guess.

At least not until the earthworms make it into his casket.

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Nyet  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:33:09am

re: #374 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:33:40am

re: #405 Dangerman

the entire concept laughable in itself,
you couldnt get ‘hospital admin’ to approve you bringing aspirin into a hospital

you want to treat him, take him to your home and free up the bed

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:35:00am

I’m expecting Hail Merrys from you all from now on. Please don’t disappoint me.

:D

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:35:22am

re: #411 plansbandc

I’m expecting Hail Merrys from you all from now on. Please don’t disappoint me.

:D

I’d sooner hail Pippin myself, but that’s just me.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:36:26am

re: #411 plansbandc

I’m expecting Hail Merrys from you all from now on. Please don’t disappoint me.

:D

And Me Heartys!

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steve_davis  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:37:02am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christian apologist “The Transformed Wife” upholding the Taliban as a better example of living than the United States.

[Embedded content]

that last one honestly just gets my goat. circumcision is not “genital mutilation.” It’s an improvement in an enormous number of ways. Jews didn’t start randomly circumsizing kids for the fun of it, just like they didn’t stop eating pig flesh for the fun of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:39:09am

Fans of militaria might enjoy this channel. In this episode, the Soviet KV-2 is explored.

Stalin’s Bunker Buster, The Story of the KV-2 | Cursed By Design

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:40:00am

oh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:41:52am
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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:42:22am

re: #382 Teukka

Is this just me, or does this have the scent of classical Chinese, DPRK and Soviet propaganda?

Very Chinese IMHO. Just wait for the Taliban’s equivalent to the Cultural Revolution to kick in…

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:43:54am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still boggles my mind how stupid people can be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:44:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:46:28am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:46:41am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

So they’re kicking the can further down the road so they can take their vacation. Quelle surprise.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:48:20am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

[Embedded content]

and we wonder why we’re not 80+% vaccinated?

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:48:44am

re: #415 Dr Lizardo

Fans of militaria might enjoy this channel. In this episode, the Soviet KV-2 is explored.

[Embedded content]

The KV-2: Proof that a house can become a tank if you find a big enough engine.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:49:47am

Fleurs - you can see why I call Milo ‘Rorschach’

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Mattand  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:50:47am

Oh, Politico…

I haven’t read the article, but judging on the headline and subhead, they feel Biden is gaslighting everyone on Afghanistan.

LOL, sure, why not?

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:51:47am

re: #389 plansbandc

I have another friend whose whole family got Covid.

I asked her if she was going to get vaccinated. Of course she’s not. (She’s hardcore Christian)

They are basically all snake handlers now.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:52:03am

re: #424 Targetpractice

The KV-2: Proof that a house can become a tank if you find a big enough engine.

It’s such a weird-looking beast, slow and ungainly. That being said, apparently anything short of an 88mm shell would just pretty much bounce off it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:53:39am

re: #426 Mattand

Oh, Politico…

I haven’t read the article, but judging on the headline and subhead, they feel Biden is gaslighting everyone on Afghanistan.

LOL, sure, why not?

Skimmed the first few paragraphs and it’s exactly what you think it is: Trying to turn tens of thousands evacuated into a “failure” because people in Afghanistan don’t think it’s the model of efficiency and calm that they’d approve of.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:54:04am

re: #425 darthstar

Fleurs - you can see why I call Milo ‘Rorschach’

[Embedded content]

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:55:56am
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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:57:23am

re: #428 Dr Lizardo

It’s such a weird-looking beast, slow and ungainly. That being said, apparently anything short of an 88mm shell would just pretty much bounce off it.

Yeah, but the trade-off is that you were chewing through motors, transmissions, and tank linkages at a ruinous rate. Sure, you could shrug off everything short of an artillery barrage, but that didn’t mean much if you broke down before you ever made contact with the enemy.

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Mattand  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:57:26am

re: #405 Dangerman

the entire concept laughable in itself,
you couldnt get ‘hospital admin’ to approve you bringing aspirin into a hospital

you want to treat him, take him to your home and free up the bed

Jesus Christ, these people…

Who would have thought partying like there’s no pandemic going on would have consequences?

And that “I’m bringing him Ivermectin” comment?

SPREADNECK: “Here, medical professionals who’ve spent their lives practicing medicine, please give my dying friend this animal medicine not designed for humans.”

DOCTORS: “The fuck???”

SPREADNECK: “Some QAnon folks on Facebook said it’s a miracle cure.”

DOCTORS” *weeping* “My God, right this way, sir!!!! The prophecy has been fufilled!!!”

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Mattand  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:57:51am

re: #429 Targetpractice

Skimmed the first few paragraphs and it’s exactly what you think it is: Trying to turn tens of thousands evacuated into a “failure” because people in Afghanistan don’t think it’s the model of efficiency and calm that they’d approve of.

Thank you for your service on that one.

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:58:13am

re: #431 lawhawk

Well, no reason to get vaccinated now…assholes.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:58:37am

re: #419 plansbandc

Still boggles my mind how stupid people can be.

There is no limit to how stupid people can be. It really shouldn’t be mind-boggling anymore (unless you’re boggled that a particular individual, who you wouldn’t sworn would know better….)

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:58:46am

re: #397 Eclectic Cyborg

How would that work exactly? For example: I’m employed by a nationwide company but my job is based out of Ohio. My company mandates vaccines. At that point, I can just say: “Sorry, I live in Ohio, you can’t do that”, and be exempt?

Correct, multi-state companies have to comply with the laws of the states they operate in.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:59:02am

re: #435 darthstar

Well, no reason to get vaccinated now…assholes.

“But why does the virus keep killing Republicans?!!”

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 8:59:57am

re: #431 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Ah yes, the futility argument. The same one that says “You’ve already damaged your lungs, so why stop smoking?”

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:01:41am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

As of 2018, 73.5% of people in the US were overweight or obese, so that’s not surprising.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:02:11am

uh

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:02:35am

re: #320 JOE 🥓

NPR is useless. Just another cog in the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine thanks to their corporate underwriting.

Nope. Nope. Nope.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:03:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:04:04am

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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darthstar  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:06:16am

re: #438 Belafon

“But why does the virus keep killing Republicans?!!”

Apparently it’s a very good judge of character.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:06:34am

re: #60 Citizen K

The fact that we have people bleating about not being sheep while buying actual livestock dewormer to defend themselves against a disease they claim to be a hoax, over a freely distributed and authorized vaccine, because Fox News and Jordon Peterson said so, is so absurd that if someone pitched a script with that, they’d be laughed off as a hack and soft-blackballed from Hollywood.

If someone tells you that doctors should be able to prescribe Invermectin to humans, tell them they can. If the patient has scabies or head lice.

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:12:05am

re: #438 Belafon

“But why does the virus keep killing Republicans?!!”

it’s fixing stupid

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:12:10am

re: #443 Targetpractice

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Mattand  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:13:15am

re: #405 Dangerman

I will let this go after this comment, but I noticed the Mayor wrote ivermectin in quotes.

Like, he couldn’t find actual ivermectin, but found a really shady home-brew version on the Dark Web that was made in Bulgaria.

“I’m going to give my very sick kid this ‘aspirin’ that I found in a Mickey D’s hamburger wrapper underneath my subway seat last week.”

I’m rapidly approaching the point that I just want these people to take themselves off the board, by whatever means neccessary, so the rest of us can try to make a serious attempt at tamping COVID down.

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:13:57am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Latest estimate I’ve seen shows the total number of injections given in the US so far is roughly 363 million. 13,000 deaths wouldn’t even amount to a 1% fatality rate. Influenza kills almost three times that many people in any given year.

The more numbers they invent, the more obvious it is that they do not appreciate just how laughable their crusade is.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:15:58am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:20:50am
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:21:26am

re: #448 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

serious question / does anyone know

i assume we had ‘help’ from afghanis all over the country

would they have to get to kabul and the airport on their own to have any chance of getting out?

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:22:14am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

VAERS data can be downloaded. I did. But unless you build your own relational database its a mess. One list is cases to serial numbers. Then another is serial numbers to vaccine. Then you have data previous to any attempt to filter for any other cause. So after all that its still a mess.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:22:33am

re: #453 Dangerman

serious question / does anyone know

i assume we had ‘help’ from afghanis all over the country

would they have to get to kabul and the airport on their own to have any chance of getting out?

Yes

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:23:00am

re: #409 Nyet

[Embedded content]

Oh, ok. I didn’t realize (from your earlier tweet) that you were using anything later than the immediate postwar period.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:23:01am

re: #424 Targetpractice

The KV-2: Proof that a house can become a tank if you find a big enough engine.

Once they dispensed with the turret and just put the 152mm gun in a fixed casemate, they had a real winner, the Zveroboi, the Big Cat Killer.

A shell that big didn’t even need to penetrate the armor, the force of the explosion would kill or incapacitate the crew.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:23:14am

re: #450 Targetpractice

It’s not 13000 deaths from covid vaccines.

It’s less than 2000.

Based on how VAERS collects data, anyone can make claims, but it takes time to actually verify with actual medical analysis.

reuters.com

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:33:11am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210822 edition ———————->
“A Short Day”

Here’s an index of all the postings in #thegreatpoolpondconversion

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:35:52am

re: #436 sagehen

I first understood how stupid people were after I learned people didn’t know how to apply deodorant correctly. Seems too many commercials with people applying it on the forearm confused some folks.

I was really happy when commercials actually showed people applying deodorant under their arms.

SMDH

I think, as a country, we may be even more stupid than this now.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:38:08am

re: #330 lawhawk

Not that these fuckers care. They just cherry pick nonsense, ignoring that covid doesn’t care about anything except spreading to its next victim. It doesn’t care about your politics or your wishful thinking that ivermectin keeps you safe, or that masks inhibit your freedumb.

It’s another version of reactionary search-and-replace. They’re not using “comorbidity” or any specific kind thereof in the way the rest of us are using the words.

Either a comorbidity means a death was inevitable, or a comorbidity is indicative ofa character flaw that is the actual cause of death. The point either way is that they are entitled to neither care nor act.

All of this is just imposing hierarchy on a non-hierarchical thing because that’s what they do to everything: declare themselves a priori superior and their inferiors unworthy of life on their own terms. The disease is just another opportunity to prove that they are better—more healthy, more moral, more smart—and they’re dying and maiming themselves rather than admit they’re wrong.

And it’s really important to understand that they’re not dying for a cause, heading toward death to achieve an end. They are dying because they imagine themselves entitled not to die.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:38:49am

I don’t know how many here have seen the Norwegian film The King’s Choice, but much to my delight, this scene was on YouTube. This is the scene where the Oscarsborg Fortress sinks the German heavy cruiser Blücher in the opening hours of the invasion of Norway in April 1940. This bit of heroism was done by a bunch of cadets under the command of Colonel Birger Eriksen.

The sinking of Blücher - The King’s Choice (2016)

The only thing the film makers apparently missed was when Colonel Birger quipped, “Either I will be decorated, or I will be court-martialed. Fire!” as he gave the order to open fire on the Blücher.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:40:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:41:42am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:42:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:42:54am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:43:40am

re: #382 Teukka

Is this just me, or does this have the scent of classical Chinese, DPRK and Soviet propaganda?

It’s the scent of all post-war propaganda everywhere.

You could just as accurately compare this to, say, US puff pieces about school building in Afghanistan.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:44:26am

re: #458 lawhawk

It’s not 13000 deaths from covid vaccines.

It’s less than 2000.

Based on how VAERS collects data, anyone can make claims, but it takes time to actually verify with actual medical analysis.

reuters.com

According to the article, only three confirmed deaths from the J&J vaccine.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:45:30am

Well damn. I didn’t know Charlie Watts died. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:48:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:49:38am
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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:52:26am

re: #464 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

looking at the pic

masks dont work
other ppe doesnt work
sanitizing
vaccination

all that ppe the medical pro is wearing (and i assume vaccinated)

if all that didnt work, they’d be the ones in the beds

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:54:33am

re: #469 plansbandc

Well damn. I didn’t know Charlie Watts died. :(

Some of Charlie’s baddest backbeat:

Rolling Stones- Ventilator Blues

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:55:10am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My neighbour the VA nurse has acquired a watch chicken, a Rhode Island Red rooster. Get anywhere near her yard and the rooster acts like an alarm bell dog.

She’s keeping the rooster as a pet: It is in a fancy wire enclosure with a two-storey house, toys, landscaping, &c.

Better hope she doesn’t add any guinea fowl or peacocks.

475
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:55:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:55:30am

As someone pointed out, to “avoid something like the plague” has come to have a new meaning in many parts of America

477
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:56:02am
478
Dopamine Fish  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:58:47am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

Life in prison? For stealing a couple of thousand dollars’ worth of material possessions and damaging a car? What the fuck is wrong with these “law and order” type fuckfaces?

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:59:02am

re: #465 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

/little dark humor

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DesertDenizen  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:59:12am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

There aren’t lockers where he swims? And why the fuck did he leave a gun in the car, locked or otherwise? I’m a rural Arizonan and I find that infuriating. To me it is ceding control of your weapon, as cars are clearly not secure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 24, 2021 • 9:59:39am

re: #478 Dopamine Fish

Life in prison? For stealing a couple of thousand dollars’ worth of material possessions and damaging a car? What the fuck is wrong with these “law and order” type fuckfaces?

Florida man…

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:00:30am

re: #478 Dopamine Fish

Life in prison? For stealing a couple of thousand dollars’ worth of material possessions and damaging a car? What the fuck is wrong with these “law and order” type fuckfaces?

not a life sentence
i think that was more metaphorical
they were free, now their new life will be in prison (for a while)

483
Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:01:29am

re: #480 DesertDenizen

There aren’t lockers where he swims? And why the fuck did he leave a gun in the car, locked or otherwise? I’m a rural Arizonan and I find that infuriating. To me it is ceding control of your weapon, as cars are clearly not secure.

100%.

control your weapon at all times includes when you’re swimming

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:02:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:05:28am

re: #479 Targetpractice

/little dark humor

we all deal with grief in our own way…

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:08:55am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who leaves all that shit in the car? Does his gym not have lockers?

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IngisKahn  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:10:15am

Imgur

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Targetpractice  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:13:03am

re: #487 IngisKahn

[Embedded content]

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Dangerman  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:16:09am

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EstebanTornado1963  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:16:16am
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:17:16am

re: #362 Teukka

:cringes: That’s beyond my limit.
Like, I can hack anything less than a transfusion peripheral vein catheter or any needle shorter than 65 mm….

The needle in the pic is an 18 gauge “draw” needle used to fill the syringe. The injection needle is a 23 gauge 1 inch (.6mm x 25mm).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:17:55am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #480 DesertDenizen

There aren’t lockers where he swims? And why the fuck did he leave a gun in the car, locked or otherwise? I’m a rural Arizonan and I find that infuriating. To me it is ceding control of your weapon, as cars are clearly not secure.

re: #486 sagehen

Who leaves all that shit in the car? Does his gym not have lockers?

He got rolled by a hooker and her/his pimp

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:20:36am

One of a kind 3D printed monitor stand. Columns from Thingiverse. Top created in free, easy to use, TinkerCAD.

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:22:23am

re: #473 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Some of Charlie’s baddest backbeat:

[Embedded content]

I suppose it’s just a coincidence the title of that track fits into our other ongoing conversation…

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:23:24am

Unity building, compassionate, patriotic, common sense vaccine guidance from Jerry Jones?

I’ve seen it all now:

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:24:13am

re: #492 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He got rolled by a hooker and her/his pimp

This is a far more plausible story.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:26:42am

re: #495 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

Unity building, compassionate, patriotic, common sense vaccine guidance from Jerry Jones?

I’ve seen it all now:

Jerry wants everyone vaccinated because the NFL will hold the team responsible for any Covid game cancelation financially liable for losses incurred by the NFL and opposing team

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:45:21am

re: #452 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The Hill@thehill
Bodybuilding sponsor drops Schwarzenegger over rant against anti-maskers hill.cm

As if Arnie gives a shit.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 24, 2021 • 10:52:46am

re: #452 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

Not surprised since bodybuilders are the most narcissistic self-centered Ayn Rand worshiping jerks I’ve encountered!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 24, 2021 • 12:59:06pm

re: #382 Teukka

Is this just me, or does this have the scent of classical Chinese, DPRK and Soviet propaganda?

Once you are in control and the one trying to maintain garrisons you *want* those roads and infrastructure since it makes your government look good and aids your ability to maintain control and extract money from those areas.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:00:32pm

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

Which gets rescinded really quick once a few insurance companies start jacking rates in the states since businesses can’t require vaccination.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 24, 2021 • 1:11:18pm

re: #495 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

Unity building, compassionate, patriotic, common sense vaccine guidance from Jerry Jones?

I’ve seen it all now:

If his players refuse to vaccinate, have an outbreak, and have to forfeit a game he loses money.


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