Monday Night Music: Them Crooked Vultures, ‘Mind Eraser’
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Here’s a no-frills open thread, with musical accompaniment by Them Crooked Vultures.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:30:45pm |
Reine linked to it downstairs, but I'm bringing it forward because I think it is important for more eyes to see it:
Okla. tea parties and lawmakers envision militia
One of the lawmakers is a candidate for the OK GOP governor's race.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:31:20pm |
Josh Homme and Dave Grohl, always relevant
Wasn't the other dude in a band before too?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:32:06pm |
re: #2 freetoken
"Is it scary? It sure is," said tea party leader Al Gerhart of Oklahoma City
Indeed.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:34:20pm |
We had some nice weather today so I built a bamboo scaffold on the west side of my house. I'm going to plant runner beans and they should reach the second story by August, giving me a nice cooling summer shade and plenty of food.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:36:38pm |
Killgore, just for you. From the AP thru yahoo news.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:38:45pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Reine linked to it downstairs, but I'm bringing it forward because I think it is important for more eyes to see it:
Okla. tea parties and lawmakers envision militia
One of the lawmakers is a candidate for the OK GOP governor's race.
Armed force backing nullification, is it? John C. Calhoun would be pleased.
/spits on teabaggers
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:40:29pm |
re: #6 reine.de.tout
These idiots are surely going to get themselves killed. I can easily see some lunatic blowing up a hospital with delusions that he's fighting socialism. Spooky stuff.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:41:03pm |
re: #5 Killgore Trout
We had some nice weather today so I built a bamboo scaffold on the west side of my house. I'm going to plant runner beans and they should reach the second story by August, giving me a nice cooling summer shade and plenty of food.
How do you plan to pick them from the second story?
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Henchman 25 Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:43:01pm |
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:43:13pm |
re: #10 Naso Tang
How do you plan to pick them from the second story?
From the windows, silly!
Or he'll climb the beanstalk a la Jack.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:43:19pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Armed force backing nullification, is it? John C. Calhoun would be pleased.
/spits on teabaggers
Oh my God. Just what we have long feared. Now we are going to start resembling the "less developed" and former Soviet Nations? Solving our differences by armed force?! Do they realize if they can have one, so can every other political action party? Code Pink, PETA, NAACP...anybody for any reason. This is not a direction we want to take the country. I hope the political candidates backing this crap gets trounced. I was trying to keep an open mind on the tea parties. They are making it harder daily.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:43:31pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
These idiots are surely going to get themselves killed. I can easily see some lunatic blowing up a hospital with delusions that he's fighting socialism. Spooky stuff.
I watched a preview of the McVeigh comments this evening. It's a no-brainer for those infected with the Taliban virus, whatever it's called elsewhere.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:43:38pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
deepest condolences.
That's just awful.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:44:00pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
That's terrible! Sorry to hear that.
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Stanghazi Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:44:27pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Holy shit. Not much more to say, hang in there.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:45:15pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
So sorry to hear it. My nephew was left paralyzed after a drunk driver hit him. My heart goes out to you.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:45:28pm |
Mind Eraser
2 oz vodka
2 oz Kahlua coffee liqueur
2 oz tonic water
Pour vodka, Kahlua, and tonic water into a rocks or old-fashioned glass. Serve with a straw.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:45:50pm |
re: #12 reine.de.tout
From the windows, silly!
Or he'll climb the beanstalk a la Jack.
I can see the headlines now (in the local neighborhood flyer).
Starving survivalist falls to death picking high beans.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:47:07pm |
re: #10 Naso Tang
How do you plan to pick them from the second story?
They are planted about 3 feet away from the house, once they grow up tall enough I'll just put a ladder between the beans and the house. There's no need to put the ladder out now because there are no beans yet and the ladder would be sort of an eye sore. I'm only going to harvest the bottom ten feet on the vine anyways. The top part is just for shade during the hottest months.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:47:26pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
I hope this doesn't seem disrespectful to your loss, but it made me think of it:
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:47:35pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Very sorry to hear that.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:47:52pm |
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:48:16pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Sorry. That kind of news brings us back to earth, and mortality.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:48:23pm |
Upcoming: I'm working on a bookmarklet to make it easier for registered users to post links, and the 'Related Links' stuff is being redesigned, with the Linkviewer being retitled 'Little Green Linkage'.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:49:37pm |
re: #20 Naso Tang
I can see the headlines now (in the local neighborhood flyer).
Starving survivalist falls to death picking high beans.
LOL.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:49:39pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
I didn't know they could grow that tall. Have been planting bush beans only.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:49:47pm |
re: #26 Charles
Upcoming: I'm working on a bookmarklet to make it easier for registered users to post links, and the 'Related Links' stuff is being redesigned, with the Linkviewer being retitled 'Little Green Linkage'.
Little Green Linkage...nice name.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:51:41pm |
re: #29 darthstar
Little Green Linkage...nice name.
I'm waiting for an excuse to call something Little Green Beans.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:51:42pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
Sad to here that. My condolences to you and your family.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:56:35pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
Shit...I'm really sorry to hear that. My condolences.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:58:22pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
I'm sorry to hear that
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bratwurst Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:59:09pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Armed force backing nullification, is it? John C. Calhoun would be pleased.
Recently finished reading the Meacham Andrew Jackson bio (American Lion) which, naturally, included all kinds of stuff about the nullification crisis. Remarkable how timely a read it turned out to be!
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:59:16pm |
re: #28 Naso Tang
I didn't know they could grow that tall. Have been planting bush beans only.
Jack and the Beanstalk?....they can grow forever high, with beans as big as VW Beetles
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:02:34pm |
re: #35 albusteve
Jack and the Beanstalk?...they can grow forever high, with beans as big as VW Beetles
Yeah, but those are only good for making Brownies.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:02:59pm |
the Stones cover of the Doby Grey classic anthem...for all the rockers out there
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:03:34pm |
re: #34 bratwurst
Recently finished reading the Meacham Andrew Jackson bio (American Lion) which, naturally, included all kinds of stuff about the nullification crisis. Remarkable how timely a read it turned out to be!
Tragic, though, the way the issue has come again. It would seem to support a cyclical rather than a linear explanation of human history.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:06:27pm |
re: #29 darthstar
Little Green Linkage...nice name.
Back in the day we had a lizard lounge.. It was pretty cool..You could go private and speak to other lizards..
But a bunch of assholes had to fuck that up by talking about Charles behind his back...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:06:30pm |
re: #37 albusteve
the Stones cover of the Doby Grey classic anthem...for all the rockers out there
[Video]
The vocals aren't their best but Keith Richards handles the guitar better than the original version.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:06:38pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
The cyclical interpretation of history explains why we're still throwing Pilums at Germans >>
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darthstar Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:07:28pm |
re: #39 HoosierHoops
Back in the day we had a lizard lounge.. It was pretty cool..You could go private and speak to other lizards..
But a bunch of assholes had to fuck that up by talking about Charles behind his back...
Charles did a Friday night Lizard Lounge a month ago. I was up in Tahoe on my own, and spent hours enjoying it. I think it should be a Friday thing. Fuck the nay-sayers.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:08:37pm |
Report: Man Nearly Killed by Giant Breasts; I Thought "My Time Had Come"
NEW YORK (CBS) Take this one with a grain of salt... uh, better make that two cups full. Claire Smedley, from Blackpool, U.K., claims her boyfriend decided to leave her after he was nearly suffocated by her gi-normous breasts while they were having sex.
That makes it a crime of passion, right?
The mother of three, who boasts 40LL breasts, told News of the World that her boyfriend, Steven, usually loves to be smothered by her love. But this time she misread his flailing for excitement, as he was really suffocating beneath her bountiful bosom.
After a few minutes, she noticed he had stopped moving and appeared to not be breathing, Smedley told the British newspaper.
She was about to call for help when a startled Steven finally came out of his trance. "I did think my time had come," Steven told News of the World.
Luckily, Steven survived...but the relationship did not.
Claire told World News that she is newly single and planning a career in modeling, to turn her giant boobs into genuine assets.
Let's hope she doesn't try to sleep her way to the top.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:08:38pm |
re: #41 windsagio
The cyclical interpretation of history explains why we're still throwing Pilums at Germans >>
Cato will like that one.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:08:39pm |
re: #42 darthstar
Charles did a Friday night Lizard Lounge a month ago. I was up in Tahoe on my own, and spent hours enjoying it. I think it should be a Friday thing. Fuck the nay-sayers.
That's a great idea!
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Kronocide Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:10:00pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
I deeply empathize with you. If my adored wife ever came to death I don't know how I would cope.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:10:38pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
Tragic, though, the way the issue has come again. It would seem to support a cyclical rather than a linear explanation of human history.
I'm not sure if I'm on the same page with the terminology here, but my take is that human history, so far, is the story of the linear overcoming the cyclical.
Militias are the reversion to tribalism which, in its defense, has been the evolutionary history of humans.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:11:12pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:11:29pm |
:)
After taking apart my laptop, reseating all components and wires, and cleaning it thoroughly, everything works.
:)
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:13:29pm |
re: #48 Naso Tang
The grammar is a bit iffy I admit, and I think the plural of 'pilum' is 'pilum'.
He might not like that part >>
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:13:39pm |
re: #40 Dark_Falcon
The vocals aren't their best but Keith Richards handles the guitar better than the original version.
Jagger is definitely an acquired taste
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:13:51pm |
re: #43 NJDhockeyfan
That's the kind of story where it just doesn't matter. Hi-lar-i-ous.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:13:57pm |
re: #49 Varek Raith
:)
After taking apart my laptop, reseating all components and wires, and cleaning it thoroughly, everything works.
:)[Video]
Wow. Have you told Bill Gates??
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:14:29pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:14:55pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Armed force backing nullification, is it? John C. Calhoun would be pleased.
/spits on teabaggers
These gibbering fools need to get out their rarely used history textbooks and read up on the Nullification Crisis:
..... please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.
Andrew Jackson, President of the United States, 1833
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:14:55pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:15:33pm |
I don't want to whine or anything..But I have a 1000 channels and there is nothing on..Nothing..I think I should do a parody song from the Boss...
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:16:31pm |
re: #47 Naso Tang
I'm not sure if I'm on the same page with the terminology here, but my take is that human history, so far, is the story of the linear overcoming the cyclical.
Militias are the reversion to tribalism which, in its defense, has been the evolutionary history of humans.
My take: History is neither cyclical nor linear. It is helical, spiraling around a central axis so that it loops back again and again, but always slightly off (forward or backward) from the original and never exactly the same. Make predicting the future much harder than with either other theory. Feel free to rip it to pieces. I just made it up.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:16:50pm |
re: #47 Naso Tang
I'm not sure if I'm on the same page with the terminology here, but my take is that human history, so far, is the story of the linear overcoming the cyclical.
Militias are the reversion to tribalism which, in its defense, has been the evolutionary history of humans.
I should amend my statement: History should be seen in both its linear and cyclical aspects. Some trends keep coming up, even things move overall forwards.
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:17:13pm |
re: #39 HoosierHoops
I love the private thread lounges. Never saw the Lizard to Lizard private chats but some of the best music videos were the consolation prize for non registered lurkers. I agree it should be a Friday or Saturday night thing. As in DRINK!
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:17:35pm |
re: #58 Escaped Hillbilly
My take: History is neither cyclical nor linear. It is helical, spiraling around a central axis so that it loops back again and again, but always slightly off (forward or backward) from the original and never exactly the same. Make predicting the future much harder than with either other theory. Feel free to rip it to pieces. I just made it up.
far out dude...sounds reasonable to me
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:17:41pm |
Freetoken posted this earlier.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
He neglected to post the rest of the article, as I did much earlier.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
But Brown spokesman Felix Browne said the senator applauds the “energy and enthusiasm” Palin and the Tea Party bring to GOP politics.
The Senate is in session and Brown can’t get away, Browne said.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:17:47pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Reine linked to it downstairs, but I'm bringing it forward because I think it is important for more eyes to see it:
Okla. tea parties and lawmakers envision militia
One of the lawmakers is a candidate for the OK GOP governor's race.
"The Second Amendment deals directly with the right of an individual to keep and bear arms to protect themselves from an overreaching federal government."
????
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:17:50pm |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
I don't want to whine or anything..But I have a 1000 channels and there is nothing on..Nothing..I think I should do a parody song from the Boss...
LGF is always on.
:o)
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:18:36pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
Horrible. My condolences.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:19:59pm |
re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist
"The Second Amendment deals directly with the right of an individual to keep and bear arms to protect themselves from an overreaching federal government."
???
yes, a militia to deal with pencil pushing legislators....just imagine
snort
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:20:15pm |
re: #43 NJDhockeyfan
Report: Man Nearly Killed by Giant Breasts; I Thought "My Time Had Come"
You got 40 LLs, you gotta have a tap-out signal or something.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:20:44pm |
re: #60 Rightwingconspirator
I love the private thread lounges. Never saw the Lizard to Lizard private chats but some of the best music videos were the consolation prize for non registered lurkers. I agree it should be a Friday or Saturday night thing. As in DRINK!
I agree private threads rock..A lot of fun..And it drives the rest of the Internet just fricking mad..
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Achilles Tang Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:21:10pm |
re: #58 Escaped Hillbilly
If one can define an axis someone else can define a beginning. You see polar coordinates, another sees statistical moves along a line (radius).
Same thing.
We agree; and it is time for me to retire.
Goodnight.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:21:17pm |
re: #67 albusteve
yes, a militia to deal with pencil pushing legislators...just imagine
snort
Heh, you left out tanks, planes, special forces, navy etc...
;)
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:21:52pm |
re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist
"The Second Amendment deals directly with the right of an individual to keep and bear arms to protect themselves from an overreaching federal government."
???
I thought it was to allow as many individuals to purchase as many automatic weapons from legitimate gun shows as they wish?//
Ok don't beat me up. I'm neither anti gun or this extreme. But lately, that's how a lot of folks have been using that amendment (incorrectly in my opinion.)
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Kronocide Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:22:46pm |
I haven't been around much lately, been too busy with drama.
Time to leave my job of 8 years and start my own business.
If any of you are millionaires and love to spend money on electronics in your home I'll give a LGF discount as my first customers!
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:22:52pm |
re: #69 HoosierHoops
While I was lurking on LGF, I came across my first closed, private Lizard Lounge. WTH? I stalked until open registration after that.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:22:53pm |
re: #66 prairiefire
How's the hot sauce going?
Coming along fine. We had to stop for a little while. My partner just closed on a restaurant in Tennessee. I sent him a case of hot sauce for the clientele to sample. Roseanne Cash tried it on Saturday and loved it and The Outlaws (the band) had some today. We are continuing to create a buzz before I get the official sauce bottled.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:23:17pm |
re: #71 Varek Raith
Heh, you left out tanks, planes, special forces, navy etc...
;)
Those are for when the Supreme Court gets cocky.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:23:21pm |
re: #72 Escaped Hillbilly
I thought it was to allow as many individuals to purchase as many automatic weapons from legitimate gun shows as they wish?//
Ok don't beat me up. I'm neither anti gun or this extreme. But lately, that's how a lot of folks have been using that amendment (incorrectly in my opinion.)
Good thing that your opinion is not the law of the land.
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:24:42pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:25:02pm |
re: #77 MandyManners
Good thing that your opinion is not the law of the land.
True, sometimes I get a bit extreme. Guess that's why we have a representative govt.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:25:33pm |
re: #72 Escaped Hillbilly
I thought it was to allow as many individuals to purchase as many automatic weapons from legitimate gun shows as they wish?//
Ok don't beat me up. I'm neither anti gun or this extreme. But lately, that's how a lot of folks have been using that amendment (incorrectly in my opinion.)
full auto is another matter entirely
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:26:22pm |
re: #73 BigPapa
I haven't been around much lately, been too busy with drama.
Time to leave my job of 8 years and start my own business.
If any of you are millionaires and love to spend money on electronics in your home I'll give a LGF discount as my first customers!
Good luck. I've been self employed for about 5 years now and I love it. Even with the economic meltdown I still wouldn't trade it for a real job.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:27:47pm |
re: #79 Escaped Hillbilly
True, sometimes I get a bit extreme. Guess that's why we have a representative govt.
Balance of power!
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:28:45pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I've been self employed for about 5 years now and I love it. Even with the economic meltdown I still wouldn't trade it for a real job.
freedom of the highest order....
think I'll chill today
I'm hip to that
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:31:18pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:31:35pm |
re: #78 prairiefire
Fan fire tastic.
You can steal that if you want./
My favorite quote is something I heard on Justin Wilson.
"Hooo! Dat's hotter than 12 yards of Hell!"
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Kronocide Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:31:36pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I've been self employed for about 5 years now and I love it. Even with the economic meltdown I still wouldn't trade it for a real job.
I don't consider my profession a real job, but my company made it feel that way. I figure if I'm going to go through the stress and hours, might as well do it for myself. Plus, they don't know what the F they are doing.
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:31:54pm |
re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist
Okay hard to frame well-First and foremost-Nothing Obama and his administration has done justifies any kind of militia. Nothing!
But setting that aside, yes the 2nd is the one that ultimately defends the rest in some future nightmare scenario, like a President refusing to surrender the office at terms end. Or some similarly unlikely event. But unlikely in part because the 2nd is there.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:33:01pm |
Mmm, just made hummus. Heavy on the garlic. Tomatoes, red onions.. all wrapped up in a wrap of yum.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:33:04pm |
re: #57 HoosierHoops
I don't want to whine or anything..But I have a 1000 channels and there is nothing on..Nothing..I think I should do a parody song from the Boss...
I Remember Mama is on TCM.
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bosforus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:34:01pm |
re: #58 Escaped Hillbilly
I'd say history is more like a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting...
-sorry, couldn't pass that up
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:34:33pm |
re: #87 Rightwingconspirator
Okay hard to frame well-First and foremost-Nothing Obama and his administration has done justifies any kind of militia. Nothing!
But setting that aside, yes the 2nd is the one that ultimately defends the rest in some future nightmare scenario, like a President refusing to surrender the office at terms end. Or some similarly unlikely event. But unlikely in part because the 2nd is there.
I understand what you are saying. Let me just say--and I believe you agree with me--that what these guys are suggesting is not in the category of a 'Well-Regulated Militia'.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:34:52pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:34:54pm |
Happy Happy Joy Joy!
:)
Lol, I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:35:01pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Reine linked to it downstairs, but I'm bringing it forward because I think it is important for more eyes to see it:
Okla. tea parties and lawmakers envision militia
One of the lawmakers is a candidate for the OK GOP governor's race.
I can't help thinking with horror of these militias coming up against the great big, Federally funded, well trained, US military. It would be a blood bath. And there would be little cheering as we would be killing our own brothers and fellow countrymen a la The Civil War. Arg. At least back then they could claim historical ignorance of the outcome.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:36:08pm |
re: #90 bosforus
I'd say history is more like a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting...
-sorry, couldn't pass that up
An afghan. It just goes on forever, and sort of piles up in the living room...
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:36:17pm |
re: #88 cliffster
Mmm, just made hummus. Heavy on the garlic. Tomatoes, red onions.. all wrapped up in a wrap of yum.
Hummus? I'd rather have that new chicken sandwich at KFC. It's two fried chicken breasts with melted cheese and bacon sandwiched in between. No bread.
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bosforus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:37:04pm |
re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist
An afghan. It just goes on forever, and sort of piles up in the living room...
As a kid I used to call them "napkin dogs". Made sense at the time.
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avanti Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:37:08pm |
"Bow to the communist Chinese" on
Drudge. The money shot is getting a picture at just the right moment./
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:37:18pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
I understand what you are saying. Let me just say--and I believe you agree with me--that what these guys are suggesting is not in the category of a 'Well-Regulated Militia'.
Esp. as it can be argued the states already have that in the form of the National Guard...as the article points out.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:37:41pm |
re: #95 prairiefire
Why? Nuclear disarmament?
Heh, no. I thought for sure that my laptop was on its last leg.
It wasn't. Just some loose wires. I think. Still can't figure out why it was acting the way it was...
:shrugs:
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:38:26pm |
re: #97 NJDhockeyfan
Hummus? I'd rather have that new chicken sandwich at KFC. It's two fried chicken breasts with melted cheese and bacon sandwiched in between. No bread.
Yeah, that sounds pretty good too.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:38:46pm |
re: #81 Killgore Trout
Good luck. I've been self employed for about 5 years now and I love it. Even with the economic meltdown I still wouldn't trade it for a real job.
You capitalistic entrepreneur, you!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:38:57pm |
re: #94 Escaped Hillbilly
I can't help thinking with horror of these militias coming up against the great big, Federally funded, well trained, US military. It would be a blood bath. And there would be little cheering as we would be killing our own brothers and fellow countrymen a la The Civil War. Arg. At least back then they could claim historical ignorance of the outcome.
Ah, but Hill (may I call you Hill?), these guys think the military will be with them when the hour comes.
//bleedin' eejits, every last one of them
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:39:16pm |
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:39:24pm |
re: #101 Varek Raith
Gremlins.[Link: www.toonopedia.com...]
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:39:30pm |
re: #97 NJDhockeyfan
Hummus? I'd rather have that new chicken sandwich at KFC. It's two fried chicken breasts with melted cheese and bacon sandwiched in between. No bread.
Popcorn and brownies for dinner.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:39:31pm |
Tumblin Dice....
live in the studio....the supreme version of this monster rocker
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:40:00pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
I do agree. The false flag is the alleged necessity of the militia. I recall 55 mph and its politics. And its alleged lack of constitutionality. At a far milder more clerical level some states fought the 55mph mandate tooth and nail. New Mexico was the best. Before that some states had no speed limit on the highway.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:40:06pm |
re: #97 NJDhockeyfan
Hummus? I'd rather have that new chicken sandwich at KFC. It's two fried chicken breasts with melted cheese and bacon sandwiched in between. No bread.
That's not exactly a chicken sandwich. That's a badly-stuffed chicken breast. Or a very large rumaki-inspired appetizer. Or something.
I bet my husband wants one.
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:40:31pm |
re: #105 Varek Raith
That is exactly what it is with Obama. He just sort of folds over at the middle.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:40:45pm |
re: #100 Escaped Hillbilly
Esp. as it can be argued the states already have that in the form of the National Guard...as the article points out.
Yes, but they just can't get the National Guard interested in protecting them from the census workers, no matter how many times they call them.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:41:04pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:41:16pm |
re: #100 Escaped Hillbilly
Esp. as it can be argued the states already have that in the form of the National Guard...as the article points out.
I actually have an elaborate theory about tying gun ownership to local militia involvement, but one again, my idea of a militia is probably not THEIR idea of a militia.
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:41:38pm |
re: #100 Escaped Hillbilly
Not really. Not when Federal authority can send them overseas leaving you without a reserve force for hurricane season.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:41:46pm |
re: #103 reine.de.tout
You capitalistic entrepreneur, you!
BTW, does anyone here have any links or book suggestions about how to start small internet stores?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:42:09pm |
re: #105 Varek Raith
Heh, I seem to "bow" when I shake hands. All due to my height.
That's Obama's excuse too. LAME-O.
//
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:42:10pm |
re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist
We should talk about that.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:42:12pm |
re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist
That's not exactly a chicken sandwich. That's a badly-stuffed chicken breast. Or a very large rumaki-inspired appetizer. Or something.
I bet my husband wants one.
I saw the commercial a little while ago. I told my wife I knew what I was having for lunch tomorrow.
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avanti Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:42:15pm |
re: #105 Varek Raith
Heh, I seem to "bow" when I shake hands. All due to my height.
Don't run for POTUS if you are tall then.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:42:46pm |
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bratwurst Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:42:57pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:45:37pm |
re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist
That's Obama's excuse too. LAME-O.
//
Is that generic brand Jell-O???
:)
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:46:50pm |
re: #118 Rightwingconspirator
We should talk about that.
OK. Now? I can go on about it at length, speaking, and drinking, but haven't written about it much. Basically, my notion is that since the 2nd directly ties gun ownership to a regulated militia, that's how we should handle it. You own a gun, you demonstrate your ability to use it safely, and you enroll with a local militia which would operate as a sort of para-emergency-law enforcement backup, according to the needs of your locale.
Trying to adapt the concept of a revolutionary/early Republic militia to modern needs and uses.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:46:54pm |
re: #115 Rightwingconspirator
Not really. Not when Federal authority can send them overseas leaving you without a reserve force for hurricane season.
So I wonder has any Governor ever tried to countervene? I mean, in this hypothetical situation we've dreamt up in which the president refuses to hand over power (who does this remind be of?) and the Federal forces (Army, Navy, Capitol Police, etc.) choose not to act, could the Governors command the NG to do their bidding over the President's? What are the rules in this regard? Now you have me wondering. I know there was a question before the Supreme not long ago about the ability of the Fed to force state NG to go even if states were unwilling to fund etc. But that's not exactly the same thing.
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sagehen Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:46:54pm |
re: #58 Escaped Hillbilly
My take: History is neither cyclical nor linear. It is helical, spiraling around a central axis so that it loops back again and again, but always slightly off (forward or backward) from the original and never exactly the same. Make predicting the future much harder than with either other theory. Feel free to rip it to pieces. I just made it up.
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes."
Mark Twain
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:47:12pm |
re: #120 avanti
Don't run for POTUS if you are tall then.
But the tall guy always wins. They did some studies on this.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:47:34pm |
Thinking about all the actual and potential musical talent assembled on this blog, I found myself wondering, what are the chances of getting someone to set the Lizard Song to music?
Hell, I even see a YouTube in our future. With graphics by Jaunte and subtitles in all the major world languages.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:48:01pm |
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Interesting Times Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:48:03pm |
re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist
That's not exactly a chicken sandwich.
It's a profit-generating substance for makers of statin drugs.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:48:30pm |
re: #129 sagehen
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes."
Mark Twain
It rhymes with "mystery", for one.
What else?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:49:02pm |
re: #133 publicityStunted
It's a profit-generating substance for makers of statin drugs.
And very tasty!
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:49:31pm |
re: #131 Cato the Elder
Thinking about all the actual and potential musical talent assembled on this blog, I found myself wondering, what are the chances of getting someone to set the Lizard Song to music?
Hell, I even see a YouTube in our future. With graphics by Jaunte and subtitles in all the major world languages.
Mad al has a killer blues band....jus sayin
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:49:37pm |
re: #132 MandyManners
i just dinged you down beacuse you dinged me down earlier.
NEENER NEEENER NEENER
Mandy reaches the apogee of her daily eloquence level.
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bratwurst Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:49:49pm |
re: #132 MandyManners
i just dinged you down beacuse you dinged me down earlier.
NEENER NEEENER NEENER
Well that explains it...for a moment I was afraid you were a Paulian who hates Honest Abe!
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:49:53pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:14pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:16pm |
re: #131 Cato the Elder
Thinking about all the actual and potential musical talent assembled on this blog, I found myself wondering, what are the chances of getting someone to set the Lizard Song to music?
Hell, I even see a YouTube in our future. With graphics by Jaunte and subtitles in all the major world languages.
That gives me a Les Claypool vibe. Something along the lines of My Name is Mud...
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:25pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
BTW, does anyone here have any links or book suggestions about how to start small internet stores?
Have you talked to Alouette?
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:36pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
Hi SFZ,
Perhaps have a peek at Prestashop
It may be useful, here is a link to a tutorial on it, oh and heres a forum link.
Its open source...
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:48pm |
re: #139 cliffster
Listerine.
That is an off-rhyme, but I accept it for purposes of writing a Mark Twain homage.
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:50pm |
re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist
Well Regulated Militia, IMHO is there as needed. Wildfires, hurricanes, riot control, even helping train youngsters who may well join the real military one day. Being local they can help fast after disasters. It is a civilian rapid reaction force that has the option to train as they desire within the law.
Un trained micro militias formed during the LA riots. Civilians held off looters and fire bombers. These dissipated as fast as the crisis ended. The California National Guard was otherwise occupied somehow. Late to the dance as it were. The Police were overwhelmed, and retreated from neighborhoods to protect essential government buildings, like their own HQ. No press releases no manifestos. Just folks that stood up for a few days into the temporary vacuum as needed.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:50:58pm |
re: #137 Cato the Elder
I was gonna mention her intense fascination with her dings >
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:51:17pm |
re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist
OK. Now? I can go on about it at length, speaking, and drinking, but haven't written about it much. Basically, my notion is that since the 2nd directly ties gun ownership to a regulated militia, that's how we should handle it. You own a gun, you demonstrate your ability to use it safely, and you enroll with a local militia which would operate as a sort of para-emergency-law enforcement backup, according to the needs of your locale.
Trying to adapt the concept of a revolutionary/early Republic militia to modern needs and uses.
Sort of like the Civil Air Patrol?
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:51:45pm |
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:51:46pm |
re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist
We are on the same page!
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:52:34pm |
re: #147 reine.de.tout
OMG my mom was in that! YES! I flew as observer many times. hahahah. I had forgotten.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:52:52pm |
re: #103 reine.de.tout
You capitalistic entrepreneur, you!
I'm not much of a good capitalist. I think of it more as funding my inner lazy hippie lifestyle.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:53:01pm |
re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist
"The Second Amendment deals directly with the right of an individual to keep and bear arms to protect themselves from an overreaching federal government."
???
Reading the founding fathers, that is a major part of the original intent. The other major part is that to them, standing armies were incompatable with a free nation. These United States would only have a tiny cadre of professional soldiers and would fight the enemy with militia levies. They did not foresee that this would prove to be a miserable failure even as soon as 1812 (or had failed miserably during the actual revolution but even they could see what they wanted to see not what was reality on occasion...)
They also would not have imagined the vast difference in even simple small arms that exists between then and now. Crew served & larger weapons would be an interesting issue to put before them though I expect that they would come down and say to allow them as canon were allowed to the militia & sailing vessels in their day.
It can seem strange in our day and age but when you look at how they expected the common defense to be provided for, an armed citizenry is very important to that conception.
William
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:53:08pm |
re: #146 windsagio
I was gonna mention her intense fascination with her dings >
In bed? That sounds kinda dirty.
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:53:09pm |
re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
BTW, does anyone here have any links or book suggestions about how to start small internet stores?
I started the Zionist Mall by getting affiliate partnerships with other online stores. This way I do not have to stock any actual inventory or deal with shipping, and get 10% of all web referrals.
Judaica and Israeli web stores request to be included in the Zionist Mall because it means more exposure for them, and the value added is that it is a portal for Israeli web-based businesses.
There are other generic affiliate programs like Linkshare and Commission Junction and of course the Amazon affiliate program here at LGF.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:53:11pm |
re: #151 Killgore Trout
I'm not much of a good capitalist. I think of it more as funding my inner lazy hippie lifestyle.
As it should be.
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:53:25pm |
re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist
Swiss model?
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:54:33pm |
re: #153 Escaped Hillbilly
Hey, given the occasional rough and tumble on here, LGF wouldn't be a terrible place for the occasional commitment-free S/M hookup.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:55:07pm |
re: #152 wlewisiii
Good post overall. Feel obligated (channeling my late dad here) a cannon is a crew served weapon.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:55:50pm |
re: #144 Cato the Elder
That is an off-rhyme, but I accept it for purposes of writing a Mark Twain homage.
Big C, Little C
What begins with C?
Cato Cackles Clearly
in a Coconut Tree
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:55:56pm |
Clive Barnes, Eric Bibb, Taj Mahal - Needed Time
Clive Barnes performing with Eric Bibb (right) and Taj Mahal (left), back stage following a performance in France.
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:56:32pm |
re: #158 Escaped Hillbilly
Canon would be a priestly committee served weapon. :)>
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:57:31pm |
re: #161 Rightwingconspirator
Canon would be a priestly committee served weapon. :)>
I only regret that I have one ding to give for my country.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:58:00pm |
re: #160 NJDhockeyfan
Clive Barnes, Eric Bibb, Taj Mahal - Needed Time
[Video]
thanks...Taj is a personal favorite, what a lovable old guy, and extremely talented
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:58:08pm |
re: #161 Rightwingconspirator
Canon would be a priestly committee served weapon. :)>
Or something a Trekkie would bore you to death with.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 8:59:12pm |
re: #163 albusteve
thanks...Taj is a personal favorite, what a lovable old guy, and extremely talented
Have we already talked about Taj's take on Feets Don't Fail Me Now, on the Lowell George Tribute?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:01:12pm |
re: #163 albusteve
thanks...Taj is a personal favorite, what a lovable old guy, and extremely talented
A local fishing show guy played Taj in his opening. He died on the table 2-3 months ago. Too bad. 20 plus year show here.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:01:49pm |
re: #158 Escaped Hillbilly
Good post overall. Feel obligated (channeling my late dad here) a cannon is a crew served weapon.
PIMF... except that as a photographer, Canon is in my spell check as correct.
SFZ's comments on a militia & remembering the Swiss model is interesting to roll into it to. I've pondered the idea of allowing anyone who was 18+ to register as a militia member, successfully complete training & be issued a government rifle & handgun. Bi-annual proficiency testing with government ammunition required. But that would explode too many heads on both the far left and far right.
And yes, militia members would be eligible for call up by the state government for service in time of emergency as I see this organization.
William
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Silvergirl Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:01:49pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Cousin committed suicide today.
Was in a car accident that killed his fiance and all but paralyzed him some time ago.
Killed himself this afternoon...
Sorry for your family's heartbreak, Steel. Were you awfully close with your cousin? He's had a challenging life since the tragedy of that accident. RIP
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:01:53pm |
re: #128 Escaped Hillbilly
I am just glad it has not happened. Ever.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:02:21pm |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
A local fishing show guy played Taj in his opening. He died on the table 2-3 months ago. Too bad. 20 plus year show here.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:02:44pm |
re: #48 Naso Tang
Flattery aside, are you sure of that?
Flattery will get someone just as far with me as with anyone else.
An upding, maybe, and then...
By the way, I was not attacking you personally the other day.
The personal is reserved for...well...you figure it out.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:03:40pm |
re: #165 cliffster
Have we already talked about Taj's take on Feets Don't Fail Me Now, on the Lowell George Tribute?
it's right next to me...played it yesterday!
too bad that's not up on youtube
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:05:59pm |
re: #167 wlewisiii
I almost made a crew served camera joke. My 40D was a bit much to learn coming up from a D30 Canon. Lusting after a 7d for the advanced processing and video.
But gun ownership has a couple purposes, so I'd let hunters and those in need of self defense tools possess guns apart from legit state militia participation.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:06:25pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:06:37pm |
re: #143 ozbloke
Hi SFZ,
Perhaps have a peek at Prestashop
It may be useful, here is a link to a tutorial on it, oh and heres a forum link.
Its open source...
Thanks.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:06:48pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:07:06pm |
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:07:37pm |
re: #165 cliffster
Have we already talked about Taj's take on Feets Don't Fail Me Now, on the Lowell George Tribute?
there are several killer covers on that record...Lowells daughter, Inara, just slams 'Trouble'....a masterpiece
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:07:39pm |
re: #150 Rightwingconspirator
OMG my mom was in that! YES! I flew as observer many times. hahahah. I had forgotten.
My dad did CAP as a teenager. Loved it.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:08:20pm |
re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist
Most welcome...
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:08:38pm |
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:08:40pm |
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teleskiguy Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:09:03pm |
Way Cool, Man! Sportin' one of my favorite guitar guys. Joshua Homme, the godfather of Stoner Metal, doin' it up with John Paul Jones and Dave Grohl. My favorite song is probably "Warsaw or The First Breath You Take After You Give Up ".
Speaking of Warsaw, please say a good thought or prayer for Poland. That is a major bummer.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:09:26pm |
re: #156 Rightwingconspirator
Swiss model?
It's not a bad one. Theirs, I think, is more regulated than Americans would like, it's a smaller and less geographically diverse place, and also, I believe, they can't use those guns for personal stuff. (I could be wrong.)
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:09:49pm |
re: #173 Rightwingconspirator
I almost made a crew served camera joke. My 40D was a bit much to learn coming up from a D30 Canon. Lusting after a 7d for the advanced processing and video.
But gun ownership has a couple purposes, so I'd let hunters and those in need of self defense tools possess guns apart from legit state militia participation.
Heh. There's a reason I went back to a Leica IIIf & a Summitar... ;)
I agree on the multiplicity, that would simply give a service oriented outlet for some of the issues the nation faces and would be in addition to any other firearms that any individual legaly owns.
And one last bit, I don't see these militia as either being paid or being liable for call up outside of the state they are levied in. That is the proper place for the fully military National Guard.
William
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:10:45pm |
re: #11 SteelPH
Good thought & wishes for you & your family. Suicide is hard to deal with.
{{SteelPH}}
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:10:53pm |
re: #179 albusteve
there are several killer covers on that record...Lowells daughter, Inara, just slams 'Trouble'...a masterpiece
Yeah, I love that one. Randy Newman does proud with Sailin' Shoes too. Could just put that album on repeat and be good for a week or so.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:11:44pm |
re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist
Very.
CAP could be a very useful model for a modern militia as I see it. An army version of it could be helpful to the states & nation. I need to do some pondering and writing...
William
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:12:32pm |
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:12:34pm |
re: #137 Cato the Elder
Mandy reaches the apogee of her daily eloquence level.
And a perigee of a pointless put down.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:13:13pm |
re: #146 windsagio
I was gonna mention her intense fascination with her dings >
If you're gonna' parody Mandy, you have to include her mysterious extra apostrophes following everyday contractions.
Short list:
coulda'
shoulda'
woulda'
gonna'
kinda'
sorta'
See ya'.
;^)
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Silvergirl Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:13:17pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:14:14pm |
Question!
Does the 2nd Amendment cover light sabres, turbo lasers and super lasers???
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:14:15pm |
re: #186 wlewisiii
Not to knock your idea too much, but anything like it would soon be coopted by the feds. We have a Reserve AND a National Guard. You can make as many new organizations as you want. When wars break out, all the able bodies are needed for the collective war effort, and your boys will be prime fodder.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:14:18pm |
re: #188 cliffster
Yeah, I love that one. Randy Newman does proud with Sailin' Shoes too. Could just put that album on repeat and be good for a week or so.
Little Feat is the best live band ever, bar non...I've heard so many different versions of all their stuff, they never play anything quite the same twice in a row, long jams and spectacular solos...those guys can do it all, them and the Stones
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:15:49pm |
re: #192 Cato the Elder
Haha, that strikes a little bit close to home ;)
I really do try to avoid tho', altho', and alot
When you're around tho :D
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:16:16pm |
re: #197 windsagio
... and I failed within that post. Brutal.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:16:34pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Question!
Does the 2nd Amendment cover light sabres, turbo lasers and super lasers???
Yes! But not Photon Torpedoes. Those are covered by some convention or other.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:16:35pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:16:38pm |
re: #189 wlewisiii
CAP could be a very useful model for a modern militia as I see it. An army version of it could be helpful to the states & nation. I need to do some pondering and writing...
William
Texas has a state militia quite separate from and independent of the National Guard, the Texas State Guard. This is organized and trained as a military police unit and normally handles civil assistance work such as disaster relief, traffic control at major events, search and rescue and the like. It is intended to replace the National Guard on state missions when the National Guard is in federal service. They sometimes work with the Civil Air Patrol in search and rescue operations.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:16:45pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Question!
Does the 2nd Amendment cover light sabres, turbo lasers and super lasers???
I believe it's in the new health care bill. Look on page 1,436, about halfway down.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:17:21pm |
re: #199 Escaped Hillbilly
Yes! But not Photon Torpedoes. Those are covered by some convention or other.
Friggin sweet.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:17:29pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Question!
Does the 2nd Amendment cover light sabres, turbo lasers and super lasers???
Shouldn't see why not.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:17:44pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:17:54pm |
Some acoustic guitar magic from a couple legends.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:17:57pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
I actually don't think swords and knives are covered; thus probably not light sabres
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:18:34pm |
re: #208 windsagio
I actually don't think swords and knives are covered; thus probably not light sabres
I soo~ would get a permit to carry a katana if I could...
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:18:39pm |
re: #195 Escaped Hillbilly
Long term, probably. Everything has unintended consequences after all. Still, if organized along the CAP model, I think you could keep things under control. Somehow I doubt the Militia Act is going to be before congress anytime soon so it's hardly that big a deal. I just enjoy pondering it and the possibilities both positive and negative.
Being a gun owning lefty army vet history nut does that to you... LOL :)
William
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Political Atheist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:18:48pm |
re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist
Good point.
re: #195 Escaped Hillbilly
Short of all out war, no draft-Local militia/react groups can be a big help. Katrina, LA riots, major earthquake etc. Sure would help if we all met and trained up before the disaster strikes. Oh, and lets get everybody CPR & first aid trained? Best to learn to heal and help before you contemplate Jerico the TV show and your gun collection. Heh, I'm getting tired. Bye all!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:19:14pm |
re: #202 NJDhockeyfan
I believe it's in the new health care bill. Look on page 1,436, about halfway down.
I'm looking, but all I see is a provision that Federal funding can't be used for mechanical replacements for hands lost in lightsaber duels.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:19:28pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:19:42pm |
re: #103 reine.de.tout
You capitalistic entrepreneur, you!
hahaha he's a capitalist the way I am, we both just want the cool things we like to do to make a living for us :D
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:20:17pm |
re: #208 windsagio
I actually don't think swords and knives are covered; thus probably not light sabres
A light sabre is not a laser, sword, or knife. It is a focused beam of pure energy powered and controlled by the mind! You can't regulate that. The Empire already tried.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:20:18pm |
re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm looking, but all I see is a provision that Federal funding can't be used for mechanical replacements for hands lost in lightsaber duels.
Huh, I thought it would seeing as being a Jedi is a pre existing condition...
:P
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:20:44pm |
re: #208 windsagio
I actually don't think swords and knives are covered; thus probably not light sabres
Why? The text simply says 'arms'. By the standard of the eighteenth century, a sword was certainly 'arms'.
//Look who's becoming an originalist all of a sudden.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:21:13pm |
re: #210 wlewisiii
Me too in case you haven't notice. And I'm feeling a bit silly tonight.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:21:18pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Question!
Does the 2nd Amendment cover light sabres, turbo lasers and super lasers???
What does turbo laser even mean? Why do lasers need forced induction? Or an internal combustion engine? :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:21:37pm |
re: #216 Varek Raith
Huh, I thought it would seeing as being a Jedi is a pre existing condition...
:P
You put that on your census under religion, didn't you? ;-)
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bosforus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:21:39pm |
Monday Night Music: Them Crooked Vultures, 'Mind Eraser'
Dave Grohl's looking a lot like Andrew W.K. these days.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:21:58pm |
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Lidane Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:22:06pm |
re: #209 Varek Raith
I soo~ would get a permit to carry a katana if I could...
Personally, I'd go for a pair of sai or hidden blades. A katana would be cool, but not portable enough. ;)
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:22:14pm |
Yours truly joined the Civil Air Patrol as a cadet in 1963. We had a great time, a lot more fun than Boy Scouts (my previous involvement) since we hung around the airport, wore these nifty uniforms and occasionally flew in actual airplanes. Unlike Boy Scout uniforms, ours were free, at least to us. I stayed on until I joined the Army in 1970. I've thought about re-joining as a gray headed old codger but I have rather a full plate these days and 2 grandchildren to play with. I may do it yet.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:22:15pm |
re: #216 Varek Raith
Huh, I thought it would seeing as being a Jedi is a pre existing condition...
:P
Can you park in a handicapped zone if you are a Jedi, or does everyone else have to?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:22:45pm |
re: #216 Varek Raith
Huh, I thought it would seeing as being a Jedi is a pre existing condition...
:P
Now, you see, this is where the whole midichlorian debate turns nasty. Is being a Jedi a genetic thing, or does one decide to live the Jedi lifestyle?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:23:13pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:23:18pm |
re: #217 SanFranciscoZionist
Why? The text simply says 'arms'. By the standard of the eighteenth century, a sword was certainly 'arms'.
//Look who's becoming an originalist all of a sudden.
That's the part about the hands cut off by light sabres we were talking about, right? I told you Obamacare was against the Constitution!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:23:36pm |
re: #219 WindUpBird
What does turbo laser even mean? Why do lasers need forced induction? Or an internal combustion engine? :D
Don't start. It's right up there with that rumbling sound ships make as they sail through vacuum.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:24:06pm |
What am I doing? I'm..
Starin at the world through my rearview
Go on baby scream to God, he can't hear you
I can feel your heart beatin fast cause it's time to die
Gettin high, watchin time fly
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:24:16pm |
re: #219 WindUpBird
What does turbo laser even mean? Why do lasers need forced induction? Or an internal combustion engine? :D
Because the initial particle beam is channeled through another layer of energized gas, increasing its power.
Duh.
;)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:24:30pm |
re: #226 SanFranciscoZionist
Now, you see, this is where the whole midichlorian debate turns nasty. Is being a Jedi a genetic thing, or does one decide to live the Jedi lifestyle?
I said it's a choice but a Jedi I once knew said he was born that way....not that there's anything wrong with that.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:24:56pm |
Great discussion tonight all, but it's getting late here in the Central Timezone.
Night all!
William
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:25:16pm |
re: #219 WindUpBird
What does turbo laser even mean? Why do lasers need forced induction? Or an internal combustion engine? :D
Cause they want Energy Star Rating?
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:25:30pm |
Hoosier was right. There is nothing on TV. The Mavs are whipping the Clips by 40.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:26:10pm |
Clapton plays the acoustic git, Delta style.....awesome finger pickin here
hardly a one dimensional player
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:26:12pm |
re: #235 The Shadow Do
Hoosier was right. There is nothing on TV. The Mavs are whipping the Clips by 40.
I don't have tv right now. Not missing it either.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:26:37pm |
re: #230 cliffster
What am I doing? I'm..
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
Since, say, 1948 - arbitrary cutoff date - it's been tune-driven. Come up with a catchy one, then write horrendous lyrics to go with it.
I do not except anyone from this barring, perhaps, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Leonard Cohen.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:26:53pm |
re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't start. It's right up there with that rumbling sound ships make as they sail through vacuum.
I always thought the sound came from the cinematographer. "VROOM VROOM!"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:27:15pm |
re: #231 Varek Raith
Because the initial particle beam is channeled through another layer of energized gas, increasing its power.
Duh.
;)
THAT'S NOT A TURBOCHARGER
*siezure*
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:27:28pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:27:41pm |
re: #229 SanFranciscoZionist
Don't start. It's right up there with that rumbling sound ships make as they sail through vacuum.
Lol, reality does not a good movie make.
LENSFLARES!!!!1111
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:27:59pm |
re: #235 The Shadow Do
Hoosier was right. There is nothing on TV. The Mavs are whipping the Clips by 40.
News flash.
The Clippers suck.
LOL!
OK, so it's not really news..
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:28:03pm |
re: #240 WindUpBird
THAT'S NOT A TURBOCHARGER
*siezure*
You know you're starting to have a seizure when you spell it wrong...
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:28:10pm |
re: #240 WindUpBird
Also, I know its madness to go after Scifi Physics, but that would have the directly opposite effect you're hoping for >>
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:28:10pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
Since, say, 1948 - arbitrary cutoff date - it's been tune-driven. Come up with a catchy one, then write horrendous lyrics to go with it.
I do not except anyone from this barring, perhaps, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Leonard Cohen.
You'd best exclude John Hiatt from that...
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:28:38pm |
re: #240 WindUpBird
THAT'S NOT A TURBOCHARGER
*siezure*
You don't put turbo lasers on a car, silly.
:P
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Silvergirl Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:28:49pm |
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windsagio Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:29:08pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
"Damn kids these days and their Jungle music!"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:29:18pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
well, Skinny Puppy does this, but "tune" is subjective. If by "tune" you mean "layered hellscape of found sounds and synthesizers"...
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:29:20pm |
These nutburgers in Oklahoma dance around the issue of what purpose their militia will serve but it is fairly obvious they mean it to provide violent resistance to federal authority. This is a universe away from sanctioned organizations like the Civil Air Patrol and the Texas State Guard.
I hope they realize that they are skirting the edges of outright treason.
If their rebel army does manage to thwart efforts by the FBI, federal marshals, etc. to enforce the law, Posse Comitatus is superceded in a state of insurrection and the next step will the arrival of tanks and artillery from Fort Sill and elsewhere. Lots of luck, morons.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:29:37pm |
re: #236 albusteve
awesome. I saw him when he came by on his all-blues tour. People were pissed that he stuck to the blues and didn't play his regular stuff. What? That was a great show. What part of "Eric Clapton plays the blues" don't you understand?
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:30:17pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
Since, say, 1948 - arbitrary cutoff date - it's been tune-driven. Come up with a catchy one, then write horrendous lyrics to go with it.
I do not except anyone from this barring, perhaps, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Leonard Cohen.
the Stones were the first white boys to carry the blues torch...they single handedly revived the Delta and Chicago genders...arguably that is, and it's a stout argument
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:30:41pm |
re: #245 Cato the Elder
You know you're starting to have a seizure when you spell it wrong...
Goddamned I's and E's. I always spell it wrong. :(
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:31:06pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
Since, say, 1948 - arbitrary cutoff date - it's been tune-driven. Come up with a catchy one, then write horrendous lyrics to go with it.
I do not except anyone from this barring, perhaps, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Leonard Cohen.
What about the Indigo Girls?
/only partly
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:31:26pm |
re: #247 cliffster
You'd best exclude John Hiatt from that...
Oh, of course. In making a point, one leaves out all kinds of exceptions.
One of my favorite poet-first-and-singer-later artists is Townes Van Zandt.
His song "The Silver Ships of Andilar" is a letter-perfect Tolkienian myth in something like ten verses.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:31:30pm |
re: #247 cliffster
You'd best exclude John Hiatt from that...
he didn't even consider Dylan...oh the humanity
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:31:33pm |
re: #256 windsagio
busting out the classics!
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avanti Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:31:39pm |
Funny comment on the stalker blog where I was just stalking:
"that commie “b” gurta on Fox New is putting ideas out to sway the truth..
“are the Tea Parties part of the Ron Paul movement”
Gurta must blog on lgf’s .00001..
any one think she may be ice weasle…???"
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:32:26pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
Since, say, 1948 - arbitrary cutoff date - it's been tune-driven. Come up with a catchy one, then write horrendous lyrics to go with it.
I do not except anyone from this barring, perhaps, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Leonard Cohen.
What about Mark Knopfler?
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:32:51pm |
re: #263 avanti
Funny comment on the stalker blog where I was just stalking:
"that commie “b” gurta on Fox New is putting ideas out to sway the truth..
“are the Tea Parties part of the Ron Paul movement”
Gurta must blog on lgf’s .00001..
any one think she may be ice weasle…???"
OMG, the mystery of mysteries is solved!
Gurta von Cistern is really Iceweasel!
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freetoken Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:32:55pm |
re: #253 Shiplord Kirel
Brogdon, one of the politicians pushing them, is a big conspiracist wrt NAU, the "super highway" etc.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:33:21pm |
Roy Buchanan & Albert Collins - Further On Down The Road
with Lonnie Mack too.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:33:25pm |
re: #254 cliffster
awesome. I saw him when he came by on his all-blues tour. People were pissed that he stuck to the blues and didn't play his regular stuff. What? That was a great show. What part of "Eric Clapton plays the blues" don't you understand?
everything about Clapton is about the blues...where the fuck do those people think he came from?....don't get me started
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:33:49pm |
re: #260 Cato the Elder
Oh, of course. In making a point, one leaves out all kinds of exceptions.
One of my favorite poet-first-and-singer-later artists is Townes Van Zandt.
His song "The Silver Ships of Andilar" is a letter-perfect Tolkienian myth in something like ten verses.
Townes was amazing, may he rest in poetic peace.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:34:50pm |
re: #259 SanFranciscoZionist
What about the Indigo Girls?
/only partly
I have a slight grudge against the Indigo Girls because one of my classmates on the Scotland study-abroad trip we were on insisted that Dire Straits "sucked" and the Girls' cover version of Romeo and Juliet was the only "real" one. I just laughed, shook my head and never talked to her about music after that. ;-)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:35:46pm |
re: #238 Cato the Elder
This is why I hate most contemporary music.
In the old days, there was poetry, and then someone set it to a tune.
Since, say, 1948 - arbitrary cutoff date - it's been tune-driven. Come up with a catchy one, then write horrendous lyrics to go with it.
I do not except anyone from this barring, perhaps, The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Leonard Cohen.
How do you explain Yoko Ono?
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bosforus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:35:57pm |
Songs now are about partying. And I don't really mind.
Party Party Party
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:36:16pm |
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:36:23pm |
re: #237 Escaped Hillbilly
I don't have tv right now. Not missing it either.
Must have my big screen for sports and the rare movie.
Anyone watching The Pacific? This had no chance to succeed. Unlike the big unit action in Europe, the Pacific war does not lend itself to drama. No continuity, no shining moments, just brutal isolated actions culminating in a crescendo of death on island after island. Also, this was not a pure ground war like Europe, you can tell the tale of a few marines, disconnected from the whole, and still miss the reality. This was a naval war more than anything. This show was way too ambitious. This story cannot be done except piecemeal, only then can it be seen as a whole. By definition there can be no central hero or set of heros to drive a story as was done with Band of Brothers.
A shame, I have studied it a lot, and still it is misunderstood everywhere.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:36:59pm |
Peter Green....back to the roots
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:00pm |
Gotta run to bed. Night everyone.. peace and purpose to all.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:08pm |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
Roy Buchanan & Albert Collins - Further On Down The Road
with Lonnie Mack too.
[Video]
they are both gone now...RIP boys
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:11pm |
re: #273 bosforus
Songs now are about partying. And I don't really mind.
Party Party Party[Video]
Even if it's a Dead Man's Party
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:30pm |
re: #270 cliffster
Townes was amazing, may he rest in poetic peace.
A tortured soul, who managed to produce some of the greatest ballads ever, and a Texas boy.
His "Pancho and Lefty" is one of the most brilliant understated ironic (in the Catonian sense of the word) American-Mexican tales ever told.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:35pm |
re: #263 avanti
It is amazing, thought, isn't it - that even FoxNews isn't conservative enough for the stalker blog in question.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:37pm |
re: #271 WindUpBird
I have a slight grudge against the Indigo Girls because one of my classmates on the Scotland study-abroad trip we were on insisted that Dire Straits "sucked" and the Girls' cover version of Romeo and Juliet was the only "real" one. I just laughed, shook my head and never talked to her about music after that. ;-)
Well, Dire Straits does not suck. But I still bliss out to "Love's Recovery".
I realize that this pegs my age to within about thirty-six months, but so be it.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:38:46pm |
re: #260 Cato the Elder
Gordon Lightfoot songs are all lyric.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:39:09pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:40:05pm |
re: #282 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, Dire Straits does not suck. But I still bliss out to "Love's Recovery".
I realize that this pegs my age to within about thirty-six months, but so be it.
hahaha
I don't mind the I.G. honestly, I just get that eyelid twitch when they're mentioned because it reminds me of that moment. And then i go crank "Heavy Fuel".
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cliffster Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:40:16pm |
re: #271 WindUpBird
I have a slight grudge against the Indigo Girls because one of my classmates on the Scotland study-abroad trip we were on insisted that Dire Straits "sucked" and the Girls' cover version of Romeo and Juliet was the only "real" one. I just laughed, shook my head and never talked to her about music after that. ;-)
Juliet - when we made love you used to cry
you said I love you like the stars above, I love you til I die.
That song gives me chills every time I hear it.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:40:42pm |
re: #283 Escaped Hillbilly
Gordon Lightfoot songs are all lyric.
It's not "lyric" per se I'm after, it's excellent lyrics.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:41:06pm |
I made the mistake of letting my boys listen to "The Highwayman."
They were singing it for days.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:41:27pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Question!
Does the 2nd Amendment cover light sabres, turbo lasers and super lasers???
Back in 1994, I saw an ad for a special commemorative replica of Flash Gordon's raygun. It was supposed to be an exact replica of the movie prop from the 30s serial, made from brass, wood, glass, and some kind of early plastic. It came on a cool looking art deco wall plaque. I took one look at the price though, $495, and said, "for that it had better fucking work."
Here's a current version for a rather less alarming $175 (though this is a replica of the 30s Daisy toy and not of the actual movie prop, which was more elaborate by a fair amount.) Even so, it should at least be able to disintegrate cockroaches for that price.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:41:34pm |
re: #266 reine.de.tout
OMG, the mystery of mysteries is solved!
Gurta von Cistern is really Iceweasel!
Umm, Greta? So, the minute a Fox correspondent strays from their "truth" she becoes Communist? Why do you people bother with these idiots?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:42:15pm |
re: #286 cliffster
Juliet - when we made love you used to cry
you said I love you like the stars above, I love you til I die.That song gives me chills every time I hear it.
it's a great song! it's one of their best. I don't know what my favorite DS song is...maybe Brothers in Arms? it's really impossible to choose.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:42:18pm |
re: #290 Escaped Hillbilly
Umm, Greta? So, the minute a Fox correspondent strays from their "truth" she becoes Communist? Why do you people bother with these idiots?
Who's this "you people" you're talking about?
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:42:21pm |
re: #275 The Shadow Do
Must have my big screen for sports and the rare movie.
Anyone watching The Pacific? This had no chance to succeed. Unlike the big unit action in Europe, the Pacific war does not lend itself to drama. No continuity, no shining moments, just brutal isolated actions culminating in a crescendo of death on island after island. Also, this was not a pure ground war like Europe, you can tell the tale of a few marines, disconnected from the whole, and still miss the reality. This was a naval war more than anything. This show was way too ambitious. This story cannot be done except piecemeal, only then can it be seen as a whole. By definition there can be no central hero or set of heros to drive a story as was done with Band of Brothers.
A shame, I have studied it a lot, and still it is misunderstood everywhere.
the ground war in the Pacific was as brutal as it gets....a vicious, racist, bloodthirsty killfest for all involved...way beyond combat in Europe
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:42:47pm |
re: #258 WindUpBird
Goddamned I's and E's. I always spell it wrong. :(
Spell check is your friend, IF you want it to be...
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:43:07pm |
re: #280 Cato the Elder
A tortured soul, who managed to produce some of the greatest ballads ever, and a Texas boy.
His "Pancho and Lefty" is one of the most brilliant understated ironic (in the Catonian sense of the word) American-Mexican tales ever told.
If you're gonna talk ballads, Marty Robbins? Cowboy songs not the crappy romantic stuff.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:43:15pm |
re: #283 Escaped Hillbilly
Gordon Lightfoot songs are all lyric.
I like all lyric songs. Nobody did that better than this man.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:44:05pm |
Definitely not based on a poem:
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:44:15pm |
re: #287 Cato the Elder
It's not "lyric" per se I'm after, it's excellent lyrics.
Well now you're being picky. Oh wait. Never mind.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:44:22pm |
re: #272 NJDhockeyfan
How do you explain Yoko Ono?
Freak accident of nature.
Won't happen again.
pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:45:11pm |
re: #292 reine.de.tout
Who's this "you people" you're talking about?
You know who you are! LOL, my bad. I mistyped.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:45:31pm |
re: #300 Floral Giraffe
Freak accident of nature.
Won't happen again.
pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
I'm coming up with answers like:
Daleks.
The Emperor.
Romulans.
Or maybe just Cthulu.
(Made the mistake of trying to listen once.)
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:45:33pm |
re: #296 NJDhockeyfan
I like all lyric songs. Nobody did that better than this man.
[Video]
nobody?...did you not see the mention of John Hiatt?...more talent than Cash in his pinky finger...Cash was mostly an icon
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:46:05pm |
Does anyone else like Bruce Robison as a songwriter?
(Lived in Austin for five years.)
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:47:05pm |
re: #302 EmmmieG
I'm coming up with answers like:
Daleks.
The Emperor.
Romulans.Or maybe just Cthulu.
(Made the mistake of trying to listen once.)
Every time someone here mentions "the shrieking harpy" I hear Yoko Ono in my head. GAH! Talk about shrieking!
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:47:16pm |
re: #303 albusteve
nobody?...did you not see the mention of John Hiatt?...more talent than Cash in his pinky finger...Cash was mostly an icon
Icon? Cash revolutionized country music back then. I would call him a legend.
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Lidane Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:47:32pm |
re: #270 cliffster
Townes was amazing, may he rest in poetic peace.
Townes was incredible. I'll always love his music.
Lyle Lovett did a great series of covers of Townes and other Texas songwriters on Step Inside This House. This is probably my favorite track. It's a cover of If I Needed You:
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:50:11pm |
re: #306 NJDhockeyfan
Icon? Cash revolutionized country music back then. I would call him a legend.
yes, he was...he was not much of a musician or a prolific writer....just a much loved performer...but he couldn't carry Hiatt's guitar pick....fame is just that, popularity
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:51:33pm |
re: #306 NJDhockeyfan
Most people don't credit any country singers. Actually, the country singers that stick around for a while (NOT the Dixie Chicks and their ilk) are excellent lyricists. And they talk about real subjects likely to effect real adults. No it is not all beer, cheatin, and pickup trucks. That's the effect of wannabe types cluttering up the airwaves. Listen to Loretta Lynn, Cash, Rogers, Wynette, etc. Don't listen to the songs that made blockbuster sales into pop status. Those tend not to be their best work.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:51:53pm |
re: #293 albusteve
the ground war in the Pacific was as brutal as it gets...a vicious, racist, bloodthirsty killfest for all involved...way beyond combat in Europe
Yes, it was all that. The racist meme however is a more modern take however, based, justifiably, on the propaganda that is archived from the time. The truth is that those fighting the fight recognized the Japanese for the unforgiving, brutal, fight to the death opponent that they were. Respect and hatred were synonymous.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:53:03pm |
re: #308 albusteve
yes, he was...he was not much of a musician or a prolific writer...just a much loved performer...but he couldn't carry Hiatt's guitar pick...fame is just that, popularity
Cash isn't known for his guitar playing. He was a great song writer and a legendary performer. Very few people could capture an audience like Johnny Cash.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:54:17pm |
re: #311 NJDhockeyfan
Cash isn't known for his guitar playing. He was a great song writer and a legendary performer. Very few people could capture an audience like Johnny Cash.
I think he knew about three chords, did not matter.
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:55:52pm |
re: #312 The Shadow Do
I think he knew about three chords, did not matter.
Because Luther played the boogey woogie!
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:56:58pm |
re: #310 The Shadow Do
Yes, it was all that. The racist meme however is a more modern take however, based, justifiably, on the propaganda that is archived from the time. The truth is that those fighting the fight recognized the Japanese for the unforgiving, brutal, fight to the death opponent that they were. Respect and hatred were synonymous.
racism was a huge element on the ground...it's nothing new...the Japanese believed to be superior to everyone, and because of their relentless brutality and refusal to surrender, they were seen as animals to the Marines, freaks from another planet...most Marines had an intense hatred for the yellow horde and felt they should be exterminated in the field, and of course the Japanese allowed that to happen...no handing out smokes or chocolates
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:58:52pm |
Cummins State Farm, Camp #1, near Varner, Lincoln County, Arkansas
5/21/1939
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Apr 12, 2010 9:59:59pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:00:18pm |
re: #314 albusteve
This was also aided by the fact that we were mostly fighting the Japanese in otherwise uninhabited or sparcely inhabited remote locations. There was less chance to encounter the civilian populations that were more likely to engender the softer emotions.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:00:20pm |
re: #314 albusteve
racism was a huge element on the ground...it's nothing new...the Japanese believed to be superior to everyone, and because of their relentless brutality and refusal to surrender, they were seen as animals to the Marines, freaks from another planet...most Marines had an intense hatred for the yellow horde and felt they should be exterminated in the field, and of course the Japanese allowed that to happen...no handing out smokes or chocolates
Actually, the smokes and chocolates did come out at Okinawa - for the civilians that did not commit suicide that is.
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:09:37pm |
Got a Woman up the Bayou
State Penitentiary, Camp #1; Stockade Hall, Parchman, Sunflower County, Mississippi
1939
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:13:05pm |
re: #320 Bagua
Good stuff Gus.
Thanks. Found a bunch of great old recordings here:
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:13:59pm |
re: #319 Gus 802
[Video]Got a Woman up the Bayou
State Penitentiary, Camp #1; Stockade Hall, Parchman, Sunflower County, Mississippi
1939
field hollers...one of the precursors to the blues
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:15:00pm |
re: #322 albusteve
field hollers...one of the precursors to the blues
19 of those here:
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:16:31pm |
re: #321 Gus 802
Thanks. Found a bunch of great old recordings here:
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
my boss was a friend of Allen Lomax, Johns son , who continued his fathers work...very small world
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:17:39pm |
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:17:57pm |
re: #324 albusteve
my boss was a friend of Allen Lomax, Johns son , who continued his fathers work...very small world
Really? Cool. They have photographs there too.
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
Lomax was the photographer of that photo.
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Bagua Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:20:05pm |
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:20:13pm |
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:22:37pm |
re: #326 Gus 802
Really? Cool. They have photographs there too.
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
Lomax was the photographer of that photo.
Allen traveled extensively with his dad, and fell into the archive thing naturally...I suspect without those guys this stuff would be lost....I wonder who the picture is...probably some lost old bluesman without a name...there were many
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Bagua Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:23:21pm |
Nice, they have the higher quality Wav files for download. I'll be scouring that site like a swarm of locusts.
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Bagua Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:24:28pm |
re: #330 albusteve
Allen traveled extensively with his dad, and fell into the archive thing naturally...I suspect without those guys this stuff would be lost...I wonder who the picture is...probably some lost old bluesman without a name...there were many
It's Stavin' Chain singing the Ballad of "Batson," in Lafayette, La.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:24:40pm |
re: #328 Gus 802
Here's the front page:
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
the miracle of the internet eh?...thanks again
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:24:43pm |
re: #330 albusteve
Allen traveled extensively with his dad, and fell into the archive thing naturally...I suspect without those guys this stuff would be lost...I wonder who the picture is...probably some lost old bluesman without a name...there were many
Bagua had it. Stavin' Chain.
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:25:40pm |
re: #333 albusteve
the miracle of the internet eh?...thanks again
Yeah. Came across it when I was looking for some civil rights stuff. Been there before. Library of Congress has a lot of other cool collections.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:26:01pm |
re: #334 Gus 802
Bagua had it. Stavin' Chain.
[Link: memory.loc.gov...]
you guys are way ahead of me....but I'm gonna mine that stuff
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:28:49pm |
re: #332 Bagua
It's Stavin' Chain singing the Ballad of "Batson," in Lafayette, La.
You can recognize all the faces from that era?
I did a quick search and his real name was Wilson Jones.
On page 22 of the July 1939 issue of Down Beat, Onah L. Spencer wrote that songwriter Richard M. Jones witnessed Stavin Chain (possibly A.K.A. Wilson Jones) playing Boogie Woogie in 1904 at Bully Reynolds' T P Saloon in Donaldsonville, Louisiana adjacent to Texas & Pacific Railroad camps 21. Moreover, Richard M. Jones indicated that Stavin Chain had traveled from Arkansas. Since Stavin Chain was heard in Donaldsonville performing for Texas & Pacific railroad workers, he likely had traveled from Shreveport on the Texas & Pacific line. Prior to Shreveport, Stavin Chain could have come from Texarkana directly, or from Texarkana by way of Marshall. Prior to Texarkana, Stavin Chain could have arrived via the St. Louis, Iron Mountain, and Southern Railroad.
Since the Texas & Pacific Railroad had built eastward from Marshall, TX to Shreveport, LA, and then to Donaldsonville, and then to New Orleans, it is plausible that the T&P railroad was responsible for bringing Boogie Woogie out of Texas to from Marshall to Shreveport, then to Donaldsonville, and then to New Orleans. (Since 1871, the New Orleans, Mobile, and Chattanooga Railroad had an operational line between Donaldsonville and New Orleans. Thus, upon T & P's reaching Donaldsonville, Boogie Woogie could have spread quickly to New Orleans. Thus, if we were able to go back in time, following T&P's railroad route from Donaldsonville towards Texas points back to Shreveport, and from there, back to Marshall. Thus, this is still another line of thought that causes me to regard the Texas & Pacific Railroad as The Boogie Woogie Railroad.
[Link: www.nonjohn.com...]
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:33:37pm |
re: #337 Gus 802
[Link: www.nonjohn.com...]
a quick look a some blues books and there is no mention of him...Willy Jones maybe?
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:34:04pm |
The Land Where the Blues Began
1979
Film by John M. Bishop, Alan Lomax, Worth W. Long
Produced by The Mississippi Authority for Eduational Television & Alan Lomax
58 minutes
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Bagua Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:34:28pm |
re: #337 Gus 802
Maybe eventually, I looked at the Bibliography link at the top, thinking it looked like a young Son House, but not quite.
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:34:39pm |
re: #338 albusteve
a quick look a some blues books and there is no mention of him...Willy Jones maybe?
Could be. His real name was Wilson Jones.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:34:43pm |
re: #338 albusteve
a quick look a some blues books and there is no mention of him...Willy Jones maybe?
of course boogie woogie was another gendre
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:37:51pm |
re: #340 Bagua
Maybe eventually, I looked at the Bibliography link at the top, thinking it looked like a young Son House, but not quite.
House is a very interesting story...he was rediscovered by Allen Wilson of Canned Heat who had to reteach House all of his own music...he picked it up and toured around and eventually I saw him in Ann Arbor...dumb luck
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:39:20pm |
re: #339 Gus 802
The Land Where the Blues Began
197958 minutes
seen it, a terrific video...a must see for blues fans
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Gus Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:42:00pm |
re: #344 albusteve
seen it, a terrific video...a must see for blues fans
Just started watching it. I like the homemade instruments.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:43:56pm |
re: #345 Gus 802
Just started watching it. I like the homemade instruments.
it's a heck of a show...
hellhound on my trail
I'm out
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Bagua Mon, Apr 12, 2010 10:45:45pm |
re: #345 Gus 802
Just started watching it. I like the homemade instruments.
Amazing, a young RL Burnside playing "Poor Boy"; the early instruments are a lost treasure. Shows the African roots of the blues.
Goodnight Steve and Gus. Cheers.
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Sigma_x Tue, Apr 13, 2010 7:06:27am |
Late to the thread - but I wanted to say that I was lucky enough to get to see Queens of the Stone Age when they did that little 12 city tour in support of Songs for the Deaf. Grohl only played 12 shows with them, and I got to see them at Irving Plaza in NY. There was maybe 1000 people in the audience.
To this day, that was still the best concert I ever saw.
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