Christian Right Leader George Rekers and the ‘Rent Boy’

Uh oh. Fundamentalist Christian leader George Rekers, who founded the politically active and virulently anti-gay Family Research Council with Dr. James Dobson, has been caught by a Miami newspaper on vacation with a ‘rent boy’.

The pictures on the rentboy.com profile show a shirtless young man with delicate features, guileless eyes, and sun-kissed, hairless skin. The profile touts his “smooth, sweet, tight ass” and “perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)” and explains he is “sensual,” “wild,” and “up for anything” — as long you ask first. And as long as you pay.

On April 13, the “rent boy” (whom we’ll call Lucien) arrived at Miami International Airport on Iberian Airlines Flight 6123, after a ten-day, fully subsidized trip to Europe. He was soon followed out of customs by an old man with an atavistic mustache and a desperate blond comb-over, pushing an overburdened baggage cart.

That man was George Alan Rekers, of North Miami — the callboy’s client and, as it happens, one of America’s most prominent anti-gay activists. Rekers, a Baptist minister who is a leading scholar for the Christian right, left the terminal with his gay escort, looking a bit discomfited when a picture of the two was snapped with a hot-pink digital camera.

Reached by New Times before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned Lucien was a prostitute only midway through their vacation. “I had surgery,” Rekers said, “and I can’t lift luggage. That’s why I hired him.” (Though medical problems didn’t stop him from pushing the tottering baggage cart through MIA.)

Yet Rekers wouldn’t deny he met his slender, blond escort at rentboy.com — which features homepage images of men in bondage and grainy videos of crotch-rubbing twinks — and Lucien confirmed it.

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391 comments

1 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:44:23pm

What a boob.
/sorry...was just reading the car bomb thread

2 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:45:12pm

Obviously, some deep undercover work was taking place.

3 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:45:44pm

Wow. Just...wow.

4 garhighway  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:46:18pm

I like Reker's defense: "I hired him to carry my sack."

5 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:47:27pm

re: #287 darthstar

Lots of steamy smoke...all that late moisture was a good thing...10 to 100 hour fuels burning primarily...some hand cut line and a few sawyers and they should have that thing contained in short time. (Missing my days in the forest service fighting fires right now...though that was pre-high speed internet).

Let's hope the fire season is relatively mild this year.

I was wondering why there was so much white smoke coming over the hill... got it... wet... all that snow we've had... especially the spring dumpers

6 Obdicut  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:47:39pm

I had surgery.

That's a great excuse.

Any time I have surgery, I hire gay prostitutes to tote my luggage. It's like a nervous tick.

7 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:48:09pm

When I was in college, I used to be skeptical about the idea that the people who are the most angrily anti-gay are the ones who are angrily repressing themselves. That was years ago.

The more stories I hear like this, and the more folks I meet who are actually threatened by gay people, the more I believe that the idea must have some truth to it.

It seems to me that the mark of a straight guy, who actually is 100% straight is that gay people don't unnerve him one bit.

8 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:48:15pm

re: #5 Walter L. Newton

I was wondering why there was so much white smoke coming over the hill... got it... wet... all that snow we've had... especially the spring dumpers

White smoke is bad. Black smoke is very bad.

9 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:48:27pm

Excuse me for a minue while I go to Pentouse.com to find an apartment.

10 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:48:37pm
“I had surgery,” Rekers said, “and I can’t lift luggage. That’s why I hired him.” (Though medical problems didn’t stop him from pushing the tottering baggage cart through MIA.)

Yet Rekers wouldn’t deny he met his slender, blond escort at Rentboy.com

Because a gay escort service is the obvious first place to look when you need assistance after a surgical procedure.

11 middy  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:48:46pm

Oh LOL!

12 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:49:27pm

Oh dear. Maybe the reason they rant on and on about the evils of homosexuality is that they're desperately trying to divert attention away from themselves.

Btw, The New Times is kind of an underground paper, but they've uncovered a few scandals.

13 Mocking Jay  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:49:44pm

re: #4 garhighway

I like Reker's defense: "I hired him to carry my sack."

You almost owed me a new keyboard.

14 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:49:51pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

When I was in college, I used to be skeptical about the idea that the people who are the most angrily anti-gay are the ones who are angrily repressing themselves. That was years ago.

The more stories I hear like this, and the more folks I meet who are actually threatened by gay people, the more I believe that the idea must have some truth to it.

It seems to me that the mark of a straight guy, who actually is 100% straight is that gay people don't unnerve him one bit.

something about protesting their innocence too loudly, huh?

15 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:49:55pm

re: #12 marjoriemoon

Oh dear. Maybe the reason they rant on and on about the evils of homosexuality is that they're desperately trying to divert attention away from themselves.

Btw, The New Times is kind of an underground paper, but they've uncovered a few scandals.

See my 7. My psych friends have been saying that for years.

16 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:50:25pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because a gay escort service is the obvious first place to look when you need assistance after a surgical procedure.

Who knew 'rentboy.com' was a gay escort service?...He probably thought it was just a modern way of finding day laborers without having to drive all the way to Home Depot.

17 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:50:42pm

/Teabagger joke in 3... 2...1...

18 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:50:48pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

When I was in college, I used to be skeptical about the idea that the people who are the most angrily anti-gay are the ones who are angrily repressing themselves. That was years ago.

The more stories I hear like this, and the more folks I meet who are actually threatened by gay people, the more I believe that the idea must have some truth to it.

It seems to me that the mark of a straight guy, who actually is 100% straight is that gay people don't unnerve him one bit.

The people who are at the forefront of denouncing "deviants" tend to have ulterior motives.

19 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:50:57pm

re: #9 DaddyG

Excuse me for a minue while I go to Pentouse.com to find an apartment.

Which reminds me, I need some yard work done. I think DPFanatics has some good resumes to sort thru.

20 celticdragon  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:51:24pm

Well, nice to see that a tea bagging fan was turning the other cheek...so to speak

21 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:51:26pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

It seems to me that the mark of a straight guy, who actually is 100% straight is that gay people don't unnerve him one bit.

...well, that and the 7 kids.

22 cliffster  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:52:13pm

re: #21 DaddyG

...well, that and the 7 kids.

stop boasting

23 researchok  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:52:18pm

I wanna get Isabella Rosselini to carry my bags.

24 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:52:32pm

re: #14 brookly red

something about protesting their innocence too loudly, huh?

Yes exactly. My psychology friends would tell you that the issue is they knwo full well what they want, but for all sorts of societal pressures find it evil and repulsive. They hate themselves and project it on others who "give in" all while doing their best to maintain a facade. The maintenance of th facade only adds to and exacerbates the anger.

This leads to the other great truth that my psychology friends will tell you in what seems a stunning no-duh. People who get laid regularly in a way that is satisfying to them are much happier individuals.

25 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:52:32pm

Don't go to hard on him. He just hired the kid for his staff.

26 Randall Gross  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:52:35pm

Wowsers, more from the link

He has also influenced American government, serving in advisory roles with Congress, the White House, and the Department of Health and Human Services and testifying as a state's witness in favor of Florida's gay adoption ban. A former research fellow at Harvard University and a distinguished professor of neuropsychiatry at the University of South Carolina, Rekers has published papers and books by the hundreds, with titles like Who Am I? Lord and Growing Up Straight: What Families Should Know About Homosexuality.

"While he keeps a low public profile, his fingerprints are on almost every anti-gay effort to demean and dehumanize LGBT people," says Wayne Besen, a gay rights advocate in New York City and the executive director of Truth Wins Out, which investigates the anti-gay movement. "His work is ubiquitously cited by lobby groups that work to deny equality to LGBT Americans. Rekers has caused a great deal of harm to gay and lesbian individuals."

27 allegro  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:53:16pm

Holy moly, these venal hypocrites just keep a-crawlin' out from under their rocks their closets.

28 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:53:27pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because a gay escort service is the obvious first place to look when you need assistance after a surgical procedure.

even that was BS. from the article...

"I'd like to propose another trip to Rome, Italy, for a week or more," Rekers wrote in an email dated March 21 obtained by New Times. "This is so exciting to have a nice Travel Assistant and traveling companion! Wow! I'm so glad I met you."

Another trip? Surgery, my ass;)

29 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:54:31pm

re: #23 researchok

I wanna get Isabella Rosselini to carry my bags.


Hell I wanna carry Isabella Rosselini's...

[this message has been interrupted to bring you the Daddy and Mommy G heavyweight fight]

30 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:54:58pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because a gay escort service is the obvious first place to look when you need assistance after a surgical procedure.

It's possible that Reker got a referral from his surgeon and his health insurance covered it.

31 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:55:10pm

re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes exactly. My psychology friends would tell you that the issue is they knwo full well what they want, but for all sorts of societal pressures find it evil and repulsive. They hate themselves and project it on others who "give in" all while doing their best to maintain a facade. The maintenance of th facade only adds to and exacerbates the anger.

This leads to the other great truth that my psychology friends will tell you in what seems a stunning no-duh. People who get laid regularly in a way that is satisfying to them are much happier individuals.

a woman I date swore she was a lesbian... so when she finally agreed to go out with me I took her to Henrietta Hudson... yeah I am a jerk like that.

32 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:55:27pm

re: #28 Aceofwhat?

Another trip? Surgery, my ass;)

THAT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME TRIP IF YOU NEED ASS SURGERY!

33 Radical Rafe  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:55:41pm

What's an atavistic mustache?

34 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:55:50pm

re: #21 DaddyG

...well, that and the 7 kids.

Lots of gay men "do their duty" and have kids.

Lots of men are a little bi.

It's pretty common really. I'm not one of these ones who believes that absolutely everyone is a little bi or bi-curious, however, I am certain that it is much more common than many might think.

35 keloyd  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:56:03pm

BREAKING - (cnn, just now) Faisal Shazad's father was a senior officer in the Pakistani Air force.

Damn, you'd think this slacker would have done a better job. I spent half the day, until I could catch up with the news, wondering if this was not some kind of prank.

36 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:56:28pm

re: #15 LudwigVanQuixote

See my 7. My psych friends have been saying that for years.

lol I just read yours. My thoughts exactly.

37 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:57:06pm

Church Elders began to suspect something was up when George Rekers insisted on hiring the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" cast to redecorate the rectory.

38 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:57:11pm

re: #33 Radical Rafe

What's an atavistic mustache?

In this case, I'd say one hell of a ball ticker.

39 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:57:26pm

re: #33 Radical Rafe

What's an atavistic mustache?

something that is atavistic is a totem, and or a representation of something primal. To say atavistic mustache in this context is to remark that many gay men like mustaches. However, sufficient numbers of them don't that I don't really get it.

40 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:57:53pm

re: #25 DaddyG

Don't go to hard on him. He just hired the kid for his staff.

Oooo you so naughty!

41 Obdicut  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:03pm

re: #30 Walter L. Newton

It's possible that Reker got a referral from his surgeon and his health insurance covered it.

No, it's really not.

42 Radical Rafe  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:05pm

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

L. M. A. O!

43 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:10pm

re: #37 DaddyG

Church Elders began to suspect something was up when George Rekers insisted on hiring the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" cast to redecorate the rectory.

The starched white collar with the rhinestones spelling out slut were another possible clue.

44 KingKenrod  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:20pm

Carting a male prostitute around Europe for a week sounds awfully expensive.

45 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:22pm

re: #35 keloyd

BREAKING - (cnn, just now) Faisal Shazad's father was a senior officer in the Pakistani Air force.

Damn, you'd think this slacker would have done a better job. I spent half the day, until I could catch up with the news, wondering if this was not some kind of prank.

was? is he retired, deceased ot something?

46 celticdragon  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:40pm

re: #35 keloyd

BREAKING - (cnn, just now) Faisal Shazad's father was a senior officer in the Pakistani Air force.

Damn, you'd think this slacker would have done a better job. I spent half the day, until I could catch up with the news, wondering if this was not some kind of prank.

Accused Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzed worked as a junior financial analyst in the Stamford, CT office of the Affinion Group, an international marketing firm, ABC News has learned.

Shahzad, who federal officials say has admitted his involvement in the New York City terror plot after being arrested late Monday at the JFK airport, worked at the firm from mid-2006 to 2009.

Proof that Excel spreadsheets will fuck your mind up in a hurry....

47 jvic  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:58:55pm

I could feel sorry for someone like Rekers if he kept his hypocrisy on an interpersonal level: that is, if he didn't so so much harm.
*** *** *** *** *** ***
Thunder, rain and 60 mph gusts out of a clear blue sky here in central MA.

48 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:59:28pm

re: #44 KingKenrod

Carting a male prostitute around Europe for a week sounds awfully expensive.

/will not make Greek, joke... will not make Greek, joke... will not make Greek, joke...

49 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:59:36pm

re: #26 Thanos

Wowsers, more from the link

Sick sick bastard. I don't get these guys, with or without the psychology attached to it. It's worth a good laugh and mocking, but they're such idiots.

50 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, May 4, 2010 1:59:56pm

re: #46 celticdragon

Accused Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzed worked as a junior financial analyst in the Stamford, CT office of the Affinion Group, an international marketing firm, ABC News has learned.

Shahzad, who federal officials say has admitted his involvement in the New York City terror plot after being arrested late Monday at the JFK airport, worked at the firm from mid-2006 to 2009.

Proof that Excel spreadsheets will fuck your mind up in a hurry...

Because we all know that terrorists are driven to desperation by poverty and lack of opportunity.

/

51 keloyd  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:00:02pm

I'm thinking 'atavistic' in this context meant 'very old fashioned' - maybe a waxed, handlebar, 'snidely whiplash' type mustache.

(atavus = ancestor in Latin)

52 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:00:22pm

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

Lots of gay men "do their duty" and have kids.

Lots of men are a little bi.

It's pretty common really. I'm not one of these ones who believes that absolutely everyone is a little bi or bi-curious, however, I am certain that it is much more common than many might think.

I was being snarky... I've actually had a gay man tell me the kids were overcompensation for my latent homosexual tendencies.

You are correct - wanting and loving children and sexual attraction are two different things. In my life I've been blessed to have lots of both with my partner of 22 years.

I will admit to some jealousy watching designer shows when a gay childless couple are showing off the farm their dual incomes were able to purchase in connecticut. There's always a trade off.

53 garhighway  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:00:36pm

re: #44 KingKenrod

Carting a male prostitute around Europe for a week sounds awfully expensive.

And tiring.

54 keloyd  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:01:07pm

re: #45 brookly red

was? is he retired, deceased ot something?

They said "was" and did not elaborate. He could have retired or died.

55 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:01:10pm

re: #35 keloyd

BREAKING - (cnn, just now) Faisal Shazad's father was a senior officer in the Pakistani Air force.

Damn, you'd think this slacker would have done a better job. I spent half the day, until I could catch up with the news, wondering if this was not some kind of prank.

It often works out that kids are the exact opposite of their parents. Ever met a preacher's son or daughter?

56 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:01:14pm

re: #35 keloyd

BREAKING - (cnn, just now) Faisal Shazad's father was a senior officer in the Pakistani Air force.

Damn, you'd think this slacker would have done a better job. I spent half the day, until I could catch up with the news, wondering if this was not some kind of prank.

Sometimes successful men have children who don't do well. Also, the Pakistani military has had a big problem with Islamist infiltration. They've made head way on getting rid of the problem, though.

57 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:01:34pm

re: #52 DaddyG

I will admit to some jealousy watching designer shows when a gay childless couple are showing off the farm their dual incomes were able to purchase in connecticut. There's always a trade off.

And like Jerry Seinfeld said, if you're the same size, you can double your wardrobe!

58 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:01:55pm

re: #17 brookly red

/Teabagger joke in 3... 2...1...

Is your fly stuck?

59 researchok  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:02:31pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

It often works out that kids are the exact opposite of their parents. Ever met a preacher's son or daughter?

It's called PK syndrome.

(Precher's Kid)

60 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:02:42pm

re: #50 Alouette

Because we all know that terrorists are driven to desperation by poverty and lack of opportunity.

/

no, it's all the evil that we dealt to them/

61 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:02:47pm

re: #53 garhighway

And tiring.

He could grip by the husk.

62 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:03:11pm

re: #58 darthstar

Is your fly stuck?

dude I post naked, get with the program!

63 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:03:49pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

It often works out that kids are the exact opposite of their parents. Ever met a preacher's son or daughter?

Often they are just like their parents and go out of their way to try and prove they aren't. Stubborn is as stubborn does.

64 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:04:55pm

re: #62 brookly red

dude I post naked, get with the program!

Hey! That's not a joystick, now put it down.

65 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:05:07pm

HoosierHoops
over 23000 comments

If Silence is a weapon then I'm defenseless!

66 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:05:16pm

re: #31 brookly red

a woman I date swore she was a lesbian... so when she finally agreed to go out with me I took her to Henrietta Hudson... yeah I am a jerk like that.

Well I can absolutely swear to agreeing with the lesbian view of things....

67 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:05:23pm

This is just amazing. If we wrote this into the script of some TV melodrama like CSI, we would be accused of an outrageous smear. Yet it keeps happening real life.

68 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:05:25pm
The profile touts his “smooth, sweet, tight ass” and “perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)” and explains he is “sensual,” “wild,” and “up for anything” — as long you ask first. And as long as you pay.

Family values!

69 cliffster  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:05:38pm

You know, you have to sell a lot of books castigating gay people to be able to afford a trip to Europe for two weeks with a male escort in tow.

70 Nimed  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:05:44pm

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

I'm not one of these ones who believes that absolutely everyone is a little bi or bi-curious, however, I am certain that it is much more common than many might think.

Yes, but I've heard those can still be cured.

71 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:06:07pm

re: #65 HoosierHoops

HoosierHoops
over 23000 comments

If Silence is a weapon then I'm defenseless!

LGF carpal tunnel suit in 3... 2... 1...

72 celticdragon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:06:14pm

Maybe he just needed a firm new Spanish tool to have his field plowed...

73 keloyd  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:06:29pm

...Faisal Shazad's dad is retired Pakistani Air Force. -CNN

I wonder if these preachers' daughters you speak of are somewhere on the internet...brb

74 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:08:22pm

re: #73 keloyd

...Faisal Shazad's dad is retired Pakistani Air Force. -CNN

I wonder if these preachers' daughters you speak of are somewhere on the internet...brb

"Billy Ray was a preacher's son and when his daddy would visit he'd come along..."

(I ♥ Dusty)

75 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:08:46pm

re: #73 keloyd

...Faisal Shazad's dad is retired Pakistani Air Force. -CNN

I wonder if these preachers' daughters you speak of are somewhere on the internet...brb

SMACK!

76 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:09:26pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

Family values!

Sounds like he'll read some Good Verse for money.

77 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:09:38pm

re: #73 keloyd

...Faisal Shazad's dad is retired Pakistani Air Force. -CNN

I wonder if these preachers' daughters you speak of are somewhere on the internet...brb

Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 183,000 for preacher's daughter lyrics country. (0.37 seconds)

78 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:09:42pm

I wonder what I'd find if I went to dingwhore.com?

79 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:10:00pm

re: #74 marjoriemoon

"Billy Ray was a preacher's son and when his daddy would visit he'd come along..."

(I ♥ Dusty)

I love that scene in Pulp Fiction when that song is playing. I love the whole movie, but that's a very memorable scene. Great use of music.

80 Lidane  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:10:04pm

This is glorious. I love stories like this. They make my day.

To quote Dan Savage, at this point it should just be assumed that anti-gay activists are sucking cock. Clearly, this Rekers guy proves Savage right.

81 kreyagg  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:10:48pm

And I had figured that VA AG Ken Cuccinelli would be the next self hating conservative to get outed.

82 cliffster  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:10:52pm

re: #78 DaddyG

I wonder what I'd find if I went to dingwhore.com?

It's available! Go to godaddy and grab it now!

83 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:11:46pm

re: #82 cliffster

It's available! Go to godaddy and grab it now!

You alredy won the boob puns in the last thread... /

84 avanti  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:12:02pm

Breaking: Bombing suspect will not appear in court today or tomorrow because he's singing like a bird.

85 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:13:24pm

re: #41 Obdicut

No, it's really not.

You're so cute... and totally lacking any sense of sarcasm.

86 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:13:28pm

Reminds me of the Mr Show interview with the Christian Anti-gay activist who suffered a "lapse" or two.

87 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:13:34pm

re: #84 avanti

Breaking: Bombing suspect will not appear in court today or tomorrow because he's singing like a bird.

I predict several drone strikes in the next week...

88 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:13:41pm

You didn't hear about this?? With the new Obamacare, you get to chose you're very own gay assistant with all outpatient surgery! Really a lot more fun than the death panels.

89 celticdragon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:13:55pm

re: #84 avanti

Breaking: Bombing suspect will not appear in court today or tomorrow because he's singing like a bird.

Don't insult the birds.

90 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:14:10pm

Crazy day:

Montana flight headed to Salt Lake City diverted after man bangs on cockpit door, claims to be alien

An unruly passenger who banged on the cockpit door of a SkyWest flight and claimed he was a space alien was arrested after the plane made an emergency landing Sunday in Idaho Falls.

Delta Connection Flight 4620 was en route from Helena, Mont., to Salt Lake City when a passenger got up and approached the cockpit, said SkyWest spokeswoman Marissa Snow.

"Reports from our crew say he actually started banging on the flight deck door," she said.

Snow did not have any other information to release Monday, including whether the man said anything while banging on the door. But Pocatello TV station KPVI reported he told flight attendants he was a space alien and wanted to fly the plane.

91 celticdragon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:15:19pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

You didn't hear about this?? With the new Obamacare, you get to chose you're very own gay assistant with all outpatient surgery! Really a lot more fun than the death panels.

Your hospital gown will be fabulous...

92 lostlakehiker  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:15:25pm

re: #52 DaddyG

I was being snarky... I've actually had a gay man tell me the kids were overcompensation for my latent homosexual tendencies.

You are correct - wanting and loving children and sexual attraction are two different things. In my life I've been blessed to have lots of both with my partner of 22 years.

I will admit to some jealousy watching designer shows when a gay childless couple are showing off the farm their dual incomes were able to purchase in connecticut. There's always a trade off.

Jealousy? For me, not a twinge. Gold at that price is no more use to me than it was to Midas.

93 Obdicut  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:15:27pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

Yes. I am a humorless robot designed only for love. I know not your 'sarcasm'.

94 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:15:36pm

re: #87 brookly red

I predict several drone strikes in the next week...

I certainly hope so.

95 abbyadams  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:16:38pm

Oh, how sad.

Okay, not really. These people that are so judgmental about other peoples' lives, who don't want the government to intervene (except, of course, on the behalf of their own narrow vision of life...) Who studiously ignore what their religion EXPLICITLY tells them to do...yinz guys get this from me:


Schadenfreude


I love when this happens. I love it. Karma = bitch. I'm out.

96 celticdragon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:17:07pm

I'm out for a bit. Finished the semester today and I am FREE for the summer!

97 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:17:35pm

In honor of this thread... I present from my rapidly becoming new favorite channel:

Sassy Gay Friend: Othello

Sassy Gay Friend: Hamlet

98 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:17:37pm

UPDATE...

Well, a Jefferson Country sherif just stopped at the house, he says they are not letting anyone into the neighborhood who doesn't have a ID with an address back here... but it appears right now that the fire is has been contained on this side of the mountain... but it's still burning down the southwest side...

He said no one had to leave, he was just making a list and checking who was still on the mountain... So, it's at a lull right now... but not all over.

I had a neighbor across the street walk to the top of the mountain, and she said there was a lot of fireman on this side of the hill standing around, three water truck secured and not being used right now... they said a lot depends on how the winds keep going before sundown.

We've had gusts of up to 67 miles per hour today, that's what started the fire, winds brought down some electric lines...

99 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:17:57pm

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

Crazy day:

Montana flight headed to Salt Lake City diverted after man bangs on cockpit door, claims to be alien

/I keep sending Boeing suggestions about electrifying the cockpit (can I say that on a gay thread?) door... they never respond :)

100 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:18:06pm

re: #93 Obdicut

Yes. I am a humorless robot designed only for love. I know not your 'sarcasm'.

LOVE... works for me... :) smooches

101 lostlakehiker  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:18:11pm

re: #84 avanti

Breaking: Bombing suspect will not appear in court today or tomorrow because he's singing like a bird.

I imagine he's feeling pretty crestfallen, betrayed by the guys who told him it would work, and hoping that he can cut himself some sort of deal that spares him the needle that passes these days for drawing and quartering.

If his song checks out, I would hope so. Vengeance is sweet but breaking up the next attack and making a clean sweep of the team that staged this one is sweeter.

102 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:19:02pm

re: #99 brookly red

/I keep sending Boeing suggestions about electrifying the cockpit (can I say that on a gay thread?) door... they never respond :)

It would interfere with the psionic autopilot....

103 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:19:39pm

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

Crazy day:

Montana flight headed to Salt Lake City diverted after man bangs on cockpit door, claims to be alien

Was he looking for Stephen Hawking?

104 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:20:12pm

re: #92 lostlakehiker

Jealousy? For me, not a twinge. Gold at that price is no more use to me than it was to Midas.

Mind you I don't want to trade- I want it all!! ;-)

105 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:20:18pm
Dr. George Rekers, anti-gay activist extraordinary, has now clarified to blogger Joe.My.God exactly why it was that he was vacationing in Europe with a gay prostitute. It was evangelism.

Here is his long laborious statement at Box Turtle Bulletin

106 cliffster  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:20:22pm

Back in the day, it was those evil women and their allures, dragging righteous men into lives of sin. I guess now it's those shirtless young men with delicate features, guileless eyes, and sun-kissed, hairless skin.

107 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:21:09pm

This one is the funniest of the lot! These people are brilliant.

Seriously, it is worth the minute of your time.

Sassy Gay Friend: Romeo & Juliet

Now if only we could have him meet Fred Phelps...

108 SpaceJesus  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:22:07pm

"no, honestly guys I just rented this boy so he could help me lift my heavy bags full of kinky underwear an-- i mean my luggage."

109 erraticsphinx  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:22:27pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Ok, that was really painful to read.

110 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:22:47pm

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

Crazy day:

Montana flight headed to Salt Lake City diverted after man bangs on cockpit door, claims to be alien

Don't worry, sir...we're not flying to Arizona.

111 What, me worry?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:23:47pm

Did you guys post this yet? Did you read the Wiki on this guy??

George Alan Rekers is an officer of NARTH, the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality. Despite NARTH's position as a secular organization, Rekers has testified in court that he believes the Bible is the infallible word of God, and that homosexuality is a sin.

I'm fuckin dying LOLLLLLLLL I can't help it.

112 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:25:01pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Here is his long laborious statement at Box Turtle Bulletin

"I have spent much time as a mental health professional and as a Christian minister helping and lovingly caring for people identifying themselves as “gay.” My hero is Jesus Christ who loves even the culturally despised people, including sexual sinners and prostitutes. Like Jesus Christ, I deliberately spend time with sinners with the loving goal to try to help them."

I'm fairly sure he could have found a sinner in Florida, but then he might have had to do without the “smooth, sweet, tight ass” and “perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)” .

113 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:25:14pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Here is his long laborious statement at Box Turtle Bulletin

That might literally be the lamest excuse ever offered in public.

114 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:26:11pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

Did you guys post this yet? Did you read the Wiki on this guy??

George Alan Rekers is an officer of NARTH, the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality. Despite NARTH's position as a secular organization, Rekers has testified in court that he believes the Bible is the infallible word of God, and that homosexuality is a sin.

I'm fuckin dying LOLLL I can't help it.

you know you really f'ed up when you go to confession & the guy on the other side can't stop laughing at you...

115 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:26:14pm

I like to consider myself a pretty sharp-tongued guy, but words totally fail me this time.

116 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:27:12pm

re: #115 windsagio

I like to consider myself a pretty sharp-tongued guy, but words totally fail me this time.

Just bide your time until you can drop "Rectum? Damn near killed him!" into the thread.

117 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:27:17pm

re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote

This one is the funniest of the lot! These people are brilliant.

Seriously, it is worth the minute of your time.

Sassy Gay Friend: Romeo & Juliet

[Video]Now if only we could have him meet Fred Phelps...

OK, how does he get on with Lady Macbeth?

118 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:27:23pm

re: #115 windsagio

I like to consider myself a pretty sharp-tongued guy, but words totally fail me this time.

damn it your late!

119 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:27:32pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

Did you guys post this yet? Did you read the Wiki on this guy??

George Alan Rekers is an officer of NARTH, the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality. Despite NARTH's position as a secular organization, Rekers has testified in court that he believes the Bible is the infallible word of God, and that homosexuality is a sin.

I'm fuckin dying LOLLL I can't help it.

Perhaps he was trying to "cure" the call boy?

120 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:27:49pm

re: #91 celticdragon

Your hospital gown will be fabulous...


You are sooo 90's. Fierce is the new Fabulous.

121 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:27:58pm

"I like what they do with fags, they put them in jail with other men. Very clever."

Lenny Bruce

122 erraticsphinx  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:28:01pm

re: #119 LudwigVanQuixote

He was!

123 avanti  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:28:05pm

Well, the help with luggage excuse has changed, now he spent time with the gay prostitute to "cure" him in the name of Christ.

cure.

124 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:28:16pm

re: #117 Alouette

OK, how does he get on with Lady Macbeth?

They don't have one of those alas...

However, they do have this...

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are taking our jobs!

125 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:28:18pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel

That might literally be the lamest excuse ever offered in public.

Hiking the Appalachians is still right up there.

126 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:28:54pm

re: #119 LudwigVanQuixote

Perhaps he was trying to "cure" the call boy?


That's what he's implying. While comparing himself to Jesus Christ.

Gah.

127 keloyd  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:29:03pm

I'm calling it right now - we will never catch Huckabee in shenanigans like this. He tows the party line on sexual identity issues, but I've never heard him going on and on about it. Huckabee may be naive or wrong on many things, but he's one of the good ones, at the most a worthy adversary.

128 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:29:12pm

re: #115 windsagio

I like to consider myself a pretty sharp-tongued guy, but words totally fail me this time.

I never noticed your sharp tongue... fooled me.

129 Randall Gross  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:29:18pm

OT: seen in a gaming forum.

"Today is Star Wars day! May the Fourth be with you!"

130 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:29:20pm

re: #125 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hiking the Appalachians is still right up there.

depends on the meaning of is...

131 darthstar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:29:57pm

re: #126 Stanley Sea

That's what he's implying. While comparing himself to Jesus Christ.

Gah.

Oh no, not that whole "doubting Thomas/stick your finger in my hole" trick again...

132 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:29:59pm

re: #129 Thanos

Star Wars
If they should bar wars
Please let these Star Wars
Stay

-Bill Murray

133 Randall Gross  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:30:29pm

I also suspect Cinco de Mayo on a Wednesday won't be quite as much fun as Cinco De Mayo! on a Friday.

134 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:30:36pm
135 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:31:48pm

re: #133 Thanos

I also suspect Cinco de Mayo on a Wednesday won't be quite as much fun as Cinco De Mayo! on a Friday.

Depends on how early you start the weekend.

136 Daniel Ballard  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:31:51pm

re: #133 Thanos

For some the Thursday the 6th will be Sicko De Mayo, hangover day.

137 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:32:02pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

You didn't hear about this?? With the new Obamacare, you get to chose you're very own gay assistant with all outpatient surgery! Really a lot more fun than the death panels.

speak for yourself. i'm trying to be Aceofboobs over here;)

138 wrenchwench  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:32:10pm

More hypocrisy from the wings:

Murdered Racist Leader May Have Propositioned Killer

White supremacist Richard Barrett enthusiastically denigrated gays and blacks.

In 1994, he led an anti-gay rally in Boston after a St. Patrick’s Day parade was cancelled in response to a court order that forbade the exclusion of homosexual marchers. Six years earlier, he signed “The Forsyth County Covenant,” which asserted that “all efforts to make us a bilingual, bisexual or biracial society must be defeated.”

But Barrett, who died after allegedly propositioning a black man, may also have been gay....

139 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:32:20pm

Here's what the fire looked like about 1:30 pm... my house would be on the left foreground area...

Looks like if there is any fire left now, it's up and over the top of hill... but when I went up to the end of my road about 12:30... about 2/4 of a mile... there was smoke coming from the ground almost up to the edge of my road...

Image: P1100776.jpg

140 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:33:05pm

Sanction-Busting Secret Deal Reveals Iran's Nuclear Weakness and Ambition

Two of the world's worst dictators are thumbing their noses at the U.N. as it tries to shore up support for increased sanctions against Iran.

According to press reports, Iran secretly agreed last month to provide Zimbabwe with oil in return for exclusive access to the crippled African nation's precious uranium ore.

Though Zimbabwe has officially denied that any deal took place, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe last week on his way to the nuclear conference in New York.

During the visit Mugabe publicly supported Iran's "just cause" in seeking to develop nuclear power. If the report of the deal, published in England's Sunday Telegraph, is true, it would violate U.N. sanctions against Iran and give a compelling reason for the U.N. to tighten the sanctions even more.

141 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:33:11pm

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

Here's what the fire looked like about 1:30 pm... my house would be on the left foreground area...

Looks like if there is any fire left now, it's up and over the top of hill... but when I went up to the end of my road about 12:30... about 2/4 of a mile... there was smoke coming from the ground almost up to the edge of my road...

Image: P1100776.jpg

PIMF 3/4 mile away

142 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:33:30pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel

That might literally be the lamest excuse ever offered in public.

Call Rekers 'Ramses', King of De-Nile.

143 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:34:09pm

Time for me to get home. Later all.

144 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:34:19pm

re: #133 Thanos

I also suspect Cinco de Mayo on a Wednesday won't be quite as much fun as Cinco De Mayo! on a Friday.

/and now live from Phoenix where the Cinco de Mayo parade is just about to start...

...yes and what a crowd Bob, there must be at least a dozen people here...

145 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:34:25pm

re: #143 Mad Al-Jaffee

Time for me to get home. Later all.

Bye...

146 keloyd  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:34:43pm

re: #119 LudwigVanQuixote

Perhaps he was trying to "cure" the call boy?

Back in school, a few Muslim friends loved to hang out in sports bars with the rest of us, watch us imbibe, and were happy to keep sipping on their coca cola. They seemed to get a buzz out of it, kind of like how we watch the Sopranos and get a kick out of it, but do not engage in organized crime ourselves. I made every effort to consume all the Guiness and pork chops (and jello!, also forbidden) I could so the temptation would be removed from their path.

147 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:35:14pm

As a follow-on to the well-known term "ghetto blaster," I would like to suggest "Bonanza Blaster" for the TV sets owned by elderly folk. It seems that every time I go to my mom's house, she has the box tuned to Bonanza re-runs and turned up to about 150 db. My 90 year old neighbor does likewise. It's creepy, like Howard Hughes's fixation on Ice Station Zebra.

Bonanza

was my least favorite among the various late 50s/early 60s TV westerns. As luck would have it, it also seems to be the most durable. Some cable channel seems to run it all day long, or possibly two at a time considering the cacophony of noise that constitutes the soundtrack.
My favorite TV western was

Have Gun, Will Travel

with Richard Boone as the erudite adventurer Paladin, with the immortal

Gunsmoke

as a close second.

148 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:35:38pm

re: #126 Stanley Sea

That's what he's implying. While comparing himself to Jesus Christ.

Gah.

Hmmm he is like Jesus?

Does that mean Jesus was gay? Well come to think of it... he didn't have a lot of time for women...

This is entirely too rich... and I do apologize for any offense... However, these folks make themselves into the easiest targets.

149 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:36:42pm

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel

Acchhh! Can I have a do-over on this?

150 Reginald Perrin  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:36:57pm

Is hiring someone to lift my luggage going to be the gay equivalent of hiking the Appalachian Trail?

151 andres  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:37:28pm

re: #127 keloyd

Never be willing to put your hands on fire unless you are willing to get burned.

I know what you mean, I might not agree with Huckabee in many things, but he doesn't seem bad. But I'm not willing to put my hands on fire that he's actually not bad...

152 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:37:43pm

OK going to play the numbers...

will play the first response.

153 Jadespring  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:37:52pm

re: #123 avanti

Well, the help with luggage excuse has changed, now he spent time with the gay prostitute to "cure" him in the name of Christ.

cure.

This excuse is one for his followers and the peeps in is org. Many of those will believe it because they HAVE to believe it. People on the outside? Not so much.

154 Lidane  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:38:45pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Here is his long laborious statement at Box Turtle Bulletin

The proper response is laughter. Lots and lots of laughter:

155 Locker  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:39:23pm

Anyone know if Christina Hendricks is available to carry my baggage?

156 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:39:24pm

re: #152 brookly red

OK going to play the numbers...

will play the first response.

Since we got this fire up here... play the first 4 number of my house address... it may not be here tomorrow... who knows...

1180

157 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:40:49pm

New Times reports Attorney General Bill McCollum's 'expert' witness in adoption case caught with male prostitute

Rekers was one of only two witnesses Attorney General Bill McCollum called in an effort to reverse a Miami judge who ruled Florida's adoption ban- the only one in the country- is unconstitutional.

McCollum paid Rekers and a colleague $87,000 for testimony that called gay people mentally unstable and advised that the ban should be expanded to include Native Americans because, Rekers claimed, they are also at much higher risk of mental illness and substance abuse.

“They would tend to hang around each other,” Rekers testified. “So the children would be around a lot of other Native Americans who are … doing the same sorts of things.”

Self-hater and a racist, nice combo.

158 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:40:49pm

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

Since we got this fire up here... play the first 4 number of my house address... it may not be here tomorrow... who knows...

1180

got it... I will put a buck on it for you :)

159 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:40:59pm

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel

As a follow-on to the well-known term "ghetto blaster," I would like to suggest "Bonanza Blaster" for the TV sets owned by elderly folk. It seems that every time I go to my mom's house, she has the box tuned to Bonanza re-runs and turned up to about 150 db. My 90 year old neighbor does likewise. It's creepy, like Howard Hughes's fixation on Ice Station Zebra.

as a close second.

Senior moment, kept hitting "quote" for "italics." Probably a brain aneurism caused by short term exposure to the Bonanza theme at high blast overpressure.

160 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:41:09pm

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

Since we got this fire up here... play the first 4 number of my house address... it may not be here tomorrow... who knows...

1180

Walter!
I bought some 4416's the other day, I almost didn't because they looked pretty beat up and bruised, but I had a craving so I got 'em, and they were so good! I couldn't believe how good they were, given that they looked so beat up. Is that the secret to finding good ones?

161 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:41:27pm

re: #150 Reginald Perrin

Is hiring someone to lift my luggage going to be the gay equivalent of hiking the Appalachian Trail?

Looks like it. Right down to the lame attempt at denying it.

Check your email.

162 andres  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:41:47pm

re: #141 Walter L. Newton

Impressive.

Be careful!

163 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:42:39pm

re: #155 Locker

Anyone know if Christina Hendricks is available to carry my baggage?

I wanna hire Vin Diesel.
Yum.

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:43:14pm

The Family Research Council really are some of the vilest insects on earth

165 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:43:15pm

re: #26 Thanos

Wowsers, more from the link

It gets even better. This rabid opponent of adoption by gay couples recently adopted a 16-year old boy.

Well, it's a good thing Rekers isn't gay himself. Lucien tells us that Rekers frequently takes in foster children and that four years ago he adopted a 16-year-old boy. We found the boy, who is now Lucien's age, on Facebook. He declined to be interviewed.

166 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:43:29pm

re: #118 brookly red

My boss had a stomach flu; juts comin' off a swing-grave double!

167 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:44:05pm

For all i-pad, and gadget lovers, this is the funniest thing yet.

Meet The iPad Developers - Message To Mac Customers

168 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:44:05pm

I didn't look it up, but I'm presuming he's living a lie (ie married?)

169 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:44:48pm

re: #148 LudwigVanQuixote

Hmmm he is like Jesus?

Does that mean Jesus was gay? Well come to think of it... he didn't have a lot of time for women...

You aren't reading the Gnostic gospels. The apostles referred to Mary Magdeline as the disciple who Jesus kissed on the mouth often. They were even a little put off by the fact that He spent so much time sharing his knowledge with a woman.

Early Church leaders in the second century made that little item disappear from the canon and portrayed her as a prostitute. Something the Catholics later renounced under Gregory but not until the notion became popular myth.

170 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:44:59pm

re: #168 windsagio

I didn't look it up, but I'm presuming he's living a lie (ie married?)

i dunno. he could be bi, though.

171 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:45:19pm

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel

It could be Oprah, or People's Court!
There are worse things than Bonanza.

172 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:45:27pm

re: #160 reine.de.tout

Walter!
I bought some 4416's the other day, I almost didn't because they looked pretty beat up and bruised, but I had a craving so I got 'em, and they were so good! I couldn't believe how good they were, given that they looked so beat up. Is that the secret to finding good ones?

DId you here about the fire today. I get back up the hill after going down to Denver to the lapidary shop to get some findings for your pendant... and there is a wildfire 3/4 of a mile from my house, at the top of the mountain I live on... I followed a fire truck right up past my house...

This is a picture... it's not out yet, but appears to be burning down the other side of the mountain, south/west of me, but it had come over the top of the hill and was headed down my way.

My house would be in the left foreground area. I went up hill around 12:30 and there was a bunch of fire trucks, county rescue vehicles, fireman and TV stations...

Local sherif came by about 45 minutes ago, says it's basically under control, but they will check back if we have to leave.

But I got your stuff...

Image: P1100776.jpg

173 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:45:28pm

re: #154 Lidane

The proper response is laughter. Lots and lots of laughter:


[Video]

"My hero is Jesus Christ who loves even the culturally despised people, including sexual sinners and prostitutes. Like Jesus Christ, I deliberately spend time with sinners with the loving goal to try to help them."

in bed.


/Mmmhmmm. Yup. Ok. I understand that 'love' in the Greek has 6 different meanings...But in this case, I do not think this guy understands how Jesus loved the sinners.

BWaahahhahahahhahah! *takes deep breath* Bwaahaaahahahahhaha!

174 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:45:31pm

re: #169 DaddyG

You aren't reading the Gnostic gospels. The apostles referred to Mary Magdeline as the disciple who Jesus kissed on the mouth often. They were even a little put off by the fact that He spent so much time sharing his knowledge with a woman.

Early Church leaders in the second century made that little item disappear from the canon and portrayed her as a prostitute. Something the Catholics later renounced under Gregory but not until the notion became popular myth.

Actually I am aware of the alternative Gospels. I was just pointing out that this fellow aught not go around comparing himself to Jesus.

175 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:45:39pm

re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote

I'd give it a thousand plusses if I could >

damn apple to hell >>

176 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:45:59pm

re: #170 Aceofwhat?

haha just had to twist the knife some >

177 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:46:32pm

re: #170 Aceofwhat?

i dunno. he could be bi, though.

Militantly attacking others for engaging openly in a lifestyle he hides his involvement in = living a lie.

178 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:46:46pm

re: #160 reine.de.tout

Walter!
I bought some 4416's the other day, I almost didn't because they looked pretty beat up and bruised, but I had a craving so I got 'em, and they were so good! I couldn't believe how good they were, given that they looked so beat up. Is that the secret to finding good ones?

I don't know... I don't work in produce... but a lot of people have been buying the D' anjou's, so I guess they are fine... but they do look a little dowdy.

179 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:46:49pm

re: #169 DaddyG

I dig Ogden Kraut.

But that's just me.

180 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:48:02pm

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

DId you here about the fire today. I get back up the hill after going down to Denver to the lapidary shop to get some findings for your pendant... and there is a wildfire 3/4 of a mile from my house, at the top of the mountain I live on... I followed a fire truck right up past my house...

This is a picture... it's not out yet, but appears to be burning down the other side of the mountain, south/west of me, but it had come over the top of the hill and was headed down my way.

My house would be in the left foreground area. I went up hill around 12:30 and there was a bunch of fire trucks, county rescue vehicles, fireman and TV stations...

Local sherif came by about 45 minutes ago, says it's basically under control, but they will check back if we have to leave.

But I got your stuff...

Image: P1100776.jpg

OMG!
No, first I've heard of that fire. Good grief! Glad to hear it's under control and you and loved ones are safe.
Wow. I've never been that close to a wildfire.

181 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:48:02pm

re: #165 Charles

Not just gay adoption either. Apparently, Native Americans are too unstable to be allowed to adopt children, according to his recent expert opinion, see #157.

182 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:48:19pm

re: #173 Oh no...Sand People!

in bed.

/Mmmhmmm. Yup. Ok. I understand that 'love' in the Greek has 6 different meanings...But in this case, I do not think this guy understands how Jesus loved the sinners.

BWaahahhahahahhahah! *takes deep breath* Bwaahaaahahahahhaha!

heh. dude thought 'agape' love meant something more...oral...than the Greeks intended.

183 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:48:45pm

It's time for some Samwell:

184 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:48:50pm

re: #148 LudwigVanQuixote

Hi Ludwig! Hope today finds you well..
On the next science thread I'd like to discuss or at least help me with some math for earlier variable light measurements and theorum during the big bang.
It's just an interesting hobby for me and we rarely meet up during a science thread..Dr. Carmac from the antimatter website thinks I may be misguided in the math...I'll need a few pointers..

185 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:48:53pm

re: #162 andres

Impressive.

Be careful!

I will... I did a dry run with the pets about 3 hours ago, and now I have two of the dogs at the local high school (it's the evacuation center for this fire) with my step daughter... I have my parrot and a baby kitten here... carriers ready, and two grown males, who i will just put outside if needed.

Knowing the FAT male tabby, he would be bugging the fireman for a handout right on the fire line.

But things appears to be under control right now.

186 avanti  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:49:15pm

re: #169 DaddyG

You aren't reading the Gnostic gospels. The apostles referred to Mary Magdeline as the disciple who Jesus kissed on the mouth often. They were even a little put off by the fact that He spent so much time sharing his knowledge with a woman.

Early Church leaders in the second century made that little item disappear from the canon and portrayed her as a prostitute. Something the Catholics later renounced under Gregory but not until the notion became popular myth.

Walter will correct you shortly about the mouth kiss part.

187 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:49:30pm

Gotta love American politics.
How low can it go?

188 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:49:58pm

Your mother is part of the New World Order conspiracy!
Glenn Beck Is Against Mother's Day Now? (audio)

Our sponsor this half hour is the Vermont Teddy Bear Co. Vermont Teddy Bear is getting ready for Mother's Day weekend.

Can you believe Mother's Day week -- by the way, Sarah and I were talking on Saturday and she didn't believe me, or it was on Friday, and she didn't believe me. And I said, Mother's Day, it's a scam. It's a big business scam. And I said, I bet it was started by Woodrow Wilson. Look it up, Sarah. And she didn't. I said, look it up. She's like, no, I'm not going to look it up. I said, look it up, I'll bet you, I'll bet you. Mother's Day? Started 1914. Woodrow Wilson. Hate that guy. Love my mom. Hate the holiday. Now, you could go to Hallmark because Hallmark and Woodrow Wilson would like you to do that.

189 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:50:13pm

re: #177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Militantly attacking others for engaging openly in a lifestyle he hides his involvement in = living a lie.

oh, that's fine. i read it as "pretending to have relations with a woman".

his whole life was a lie, apparently. pathetic.

190 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:50:19pm

Uh huh. George Rekers goes from "I didn't know it was a gay escort service" to "I knew it was an gay escort but and like to spend time with sinners" all within 24 hours.

Right, if he didn't know let's put the Rentboy website up on the screen.

Nice 'stache Mr. Rekers.

191 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:50:38pm

re: #174 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually I am aware of the alternative Gospels. I was just pointing out that this fellow aught not go around comparing himself to Jesus.

Totally agree... Anyone with a self image as screwed up as him would have a very difficult time understanding perfect love.

192 Locker  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:50:40pm

I think this is the reason for those bullshit, gay re-education camps. So when one of these jokers gets pinched, he can say "I'm sick. I can be cured." then go off to his own personal readjustment to get self certified as hetero again.

193 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:51:12pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Your mother is part of the New World Order conspiracy!
Glenn Beck Is Against Mother's Day Now? (audio)

So stupid. The way Glenn Beck fixates on people is just sick.

194 andres  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:51:20pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

More hypocrisy from the wings:

Murdered Racist Leader May Have Propositioned Killer

Both Rekers and and Barrett show the true face behind these anti-(something) movements: they feel guilty for (something) and want to repress it.

It used to surprise me when this kind of people were caught off-base. It no longer does, especially after dealing with all the "religious" people I've dealt.

195 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:51:55pm

re: #186 avanti

Walter will correct you shortly about the mouth kiss part.


I know. Alternative readings see it as an expression for passing gnostic or "secret" knowledge. 2000 years later and we're not going to agree on what all the papyrus means. I still think he loved in ways very familiar to us today.

196 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:52:13pm

re: #182 Aceofwhat?

heh. dude thought 'agape' love meant something more...oral...than the Greeks intended.

*snickers*

197 DaddyG  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:53:17pm

BBL

198 avanti  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:53:33pm

re: #195 DaddyG

I know. Alternative readings see it as an expression for passing gnostic or "secret" knowledge. 2000 years later and we're not going to agree on what all the papyrus means. I still think he loved in ways very familiar to us today.

"During their long burial in the desert, some of the books were attacked by ants. In this Gospel, the ants made a hole in a very crucial place.
The text says:

And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her [...]. The rest of the disciples [...]. They said to him "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness."

The 'lacuna', or gap, which hides where Jesus kissed Mary has tantalised scholars for decades."

199 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:54:26pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

So stupid. The way Glenn Beck fixates on people is just sick.

His audience loves it.

200 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:54:28pm

Anti-Gay “Expert” Would Consider Banning Adoptions By Native Americans

The lives of gay people can also be stressful to children, Rekers testified. The children may experience teasing and bullying from other children who don’t approve of their parents’ orientation. And children with gay parents are likely to suffer from repeated separations because gay people are more likely to have multiple failed relationships.

Rekers said he would, in fact, favor banning anyone from adopting who had more than 18 “sex partners” during a lifetime. “I think that would be a very good social policy,” he said in a deposition.

He said he would also consider banning Native Americans from adopting because research shows that they are also at much higher risk of mental illness and substance abuse. “They would tend to hang around each other,” Rekers testified. “So the children would be around a lot of other Native Americans who are … doing the same sorts of things.”

201 erraticsphinx  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:54:34pm

re: #190 Gus 802

Wait, how is that place even legal? It's openly advocating prostitution...which is illegal...right?

Any lawyers here?

202 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:54:41pm

re: #197 DaddyG

BBL

C-ya..Nice chatting with you today.. You were very punny
/use a pun..Go to prison

203 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:56:01pm

re: #187 spare o'lake

heh; trying to parse this, in what way?

204 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:56:05pm

re: #190 Gus 802

Uh huh. George Rekers goes from "I didn't know it was a gay escort service" to "I knew it was an gay escort but and like to spend time with sinners" all within 24 hours.

Right, if he didn't know let's put the Rentboy website up on the screen.

Nice 'stache Mr. Rekers.

Quote from the disclaimers.

THIS SITE MAY NOT BE USED FOR THE ADVERTISING OF SEXUAL SERVICES OR TO ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES REQUIRING THE PAYMENT OF MONEY FOR SEX OR OTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES.

Bwhahahaha!

205 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:56:06pm

re: #201 erraticsphinx

Wait, how is that place even legal? It's openly advocating prostitution...which is illegal...right?

Any lawyers here?

Its an "Escort" site, working overseas.

206 kingkenrod  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:56:37pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Your mother is part of the New World Order conspiracy!
Glenn Beck Is Against Mother's Day Now? (audio)

Is Woodrow Wilson a big player in "The 5000 Year Leap"? Beck seems obsessed with him.

207 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:57:20pm

re: #206 kingkenrod

League of nations and all that; sorry if it was a rhetorical quesiton >

208 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:58:07pm

re: #207 windsagio

League of nations and all that; sorry if it was a rhetorical quesiton >

Don't you just hate rhetorical questions?

209 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:58:14pm

re: #201 erraticsphinx

Wait, how is that place even legal? It's openly advocating prostitution...which is illegal...right?

Any lawyers here?

Oh you know, it's an "escort" service.

While we're on that subject I do support legalized prostitution however like they have in Nevada.

210 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:58:33pm

re: #186 avanti

Walter will correct you shortly about the mouth kiss part.

No I won't... Daddy G is correct. There are references at least twice is different non-canon manuscripts in regards to a kiss on the mouth. And the Secret Gospel of Mark even indicates that Jesus spent a night in a tomb with a naked young man.

211 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:58:50pm

re: #208 HoosierHoops

I personally love 'em, just embarassing to becaught :D

212 Obdicut  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:59:03pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Good find, Kragar. Fucking disgusting that he'd say that, and even more disgusting that any politician would seek him out as an 'expert'.

213 erraticsphinx  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:59:32pm

re: #209 Gus 802

I think it might be overseas part that keeps them safe.

214 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 2:59:32pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

That's the fun of apocrypha tho', don't you wonder about the ones that didn't even make it to us, considering how crazy (ie flying jesus) the ones that did are? ;)

215 engineer cat  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:00:32pm
Mother's Day? Started 1914. Woodrow Wilson. Hate that guy. Love my mom. Hate the holiday. Now, you could go to Hallmark because Hallmark and Woodrow Wilson would like you to do that.

the right wing has declared all presidents except ronald reagan to be bad dirty liberals. all.

and not just that - you need to hate on them as much as possible, just like glen sez above

216 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:00:45pm

Later people.

217 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:01:19pm

re: #206 kingkenrod

Is Woodrow Wilson a big player in "The 5000 Year Leap"? Beck seems obsessed with him.

I'm not sure is Woodrow is mentioned in the 5000 Year Leap but the Birch Society is obsessed with him.

218 avanti  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:01:45pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

No I won't... Daddy G is correct. There are references at least twice is different non-canon manuscripts in regards to a kiss on the mouth. And the Secret Gospel of Mark even indicates that Jesus spent a night in a tomb with a naked young man.

Then they filled in the hole in the scrolls he referred to ? I don't question the possible relationship, just the proof of the mouth kiss in the scrolls.

"During their long burial in the desert, some of the books were attacked by ants. In this Gospel, the ants made a hole in a very crucial place.
The text says:

And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her [...].

The 'lacuna', or gap, which hides where Jesus kissed Mary has tantalised scholars for decades."

219 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:02:10pm

re: #214 windsagio

That's the fun of apocrypha tho', don't you wonder about the ones that didn't even make it to us, considering how crazy (ie flying jesus) the ones that did are? ;)

You mean like Kung Fu grip Jesus or Roller Jesus?

220 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:02:22pm

re: #184 HoosierHoops

Hi Ludwig! Hope today finds you well..
On the next science thread I'd like to discuss or at least help me with some math for earlier variable light measurements and theorum during the big bang.
It's just an interesting hobby for me and we rarely meet up during a science thread..Dr. Carmac from the antimatter website thinks I may be misguided in the math...I'll need a few pointers..

Hey Hoops, glad you are here...

C is a constant. I promise it is a constant. If it weren't the energy bads would be different in distant spectra. c has been measured to be constant for at least 13 billion years.

I agree that the inflationary stage of the early universe is a giant mystery. It is obvious that for that to have happened, something very bizarre must have happened (and yes in that particular regime, c may not have been constant though there are other equivalent things that could also have happened). However, at those energy scales, we simply have no idea.

The string theorists have some ideas, but there is nothing close to a complete picture. What is obvious though is that as you increase in energy you find more and more symmetries. So, it looks like, at some point in the inflationary phase, the symmetry got broken and c became fixed. However the nature and details of that are completely unknown.

221 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:02:34pm

re: #214 windsagio

That's the fun of apocrypha tho', don't you wonder about the ones that didn't even make it to us, considering how crazy (ie flying jesus) the ones that did are? ;)

We have enough material to deal with... :)

222 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:02:41pm

re: #219 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My personal fave is Rambo Jesus. I always wondered where he got hte M-60.

223 erraticsphinx  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:03:01pm

So this guy was a total lying cretin. He looked this site up on purpose, to find sex, not "spread the gospel". You can't swing a cat around without hitting a peen on that place.

His entire being was based around making people feel ashamed of themselves , what an asshole.

224 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:03:31pm

re: #213 erraticsphinx

I think it might be overseas part that keeps them safe.

Perhaps. I'm looking around here and Jonathan Lowe who runs the outfit won the 2008 Hookies award for Rentboy. He was saying he'd like to go to med school.

Escort services always run a very fine line on the legal end. Everyone knows it's more than just escorting. The usual workaround that from what I've heard in the past is that the prostitution end doesn't come from the service itself but from the individual escort.

225 engineer cat  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:03:56pm

re: #205 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its an "Escort" site, working overseas.

there's a whole 'escort' section in most yellow pages

amazing how many highly respectable but somewhat lonely gentlemen are in need of renting a toothsome young maiden purely for the purpose of providing conversation and companionship at dinner and/or a show

226 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:04:05pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anti-Gay “Expert” Would Consider Banning Adoptions By Native Americans

Wow, what a cretin.

227 albusteve  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:04:17pm

re: #222 windsagio

My personal fave is Rambo Jesus. I always wondered where he got hte M-60.

time travel obviously

228 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:04:42pm

re: #212 Obdicut

Good find, Kragar. Fucking disgusting that he'd say that, and even more disgusting that any politician would seek him out as an 'expert'.

Huckabee used him as an expert too, in the Arkansas gay adoption case a few years ago.

Our Arkansas lizard posted the link last thread. Webevintage I think?

229 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:04:54pm

re: #226 Gus 802

Wow, what a cretin.

Oops, wrong post response.

Let me try that again...

230 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:06:09pm

re: #229 Gus 802

Oops, wrong post response.

Let me try that again...

No wait. That was right. Damn, I should make some more coffee.

231 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:06:14pm

re: #222 windsagio

My personal fave is Rambo Jesus. I always wondered where he got hte M-60.

Scuba Jesus was the best.

232 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:06:26pm

re: #204 Floral Giraffe

Bwhahahaha!

Yeah, this just gets more and more rich.

233 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:06:54pm

re: #203 windsagio

heh; trying to parse this, in what way?

Former Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau successfully maintained that the State has no place in the bedrooms of the nation. Largely as a result, we tend to see far less of these vile public displays of partisan sexual "outings" in Canadian society than in the US. The substantial differences between the American psyche and Canada's are highlighted by such frequent and open displays of religious and sexual hypocrisy, especially when brazenly used for partisan political purposes.

234 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:07:22pm

re: #227 albusteve

Hi albusteve! I was asking about you. Hope you had a good trip!

235 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:07:52pm

re: #227 albusteve

No, You're thinking of HG Wells Jesus. Different man entirely.

re: #221 Walter L. Newton

The process was always interesting to me tho', it'd be amazing to have sat down at those councils.

236 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:08:45pm

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Scuba Jesus was the best.

some one sent me an e-mail about Mary's sister aka Auntie Christ...

sorry can't share.

237 albusteve  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:08:47pm

re: #234 Stanley Sea

Hi albusteve! I was asking about you. Hope you had a good trip!

I'm still tripping...I don't have 24/7 net access...but it's good to take a break

238 engineer cat  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:10:49pm

re: #218 avanti

Then they filled in the hole in the scrolls he referred to ? I don't question the possible relationship, just the proof of the mouth kiss in the scrolls.

"During their long burial in the desert, some of the books were attacked by ants. In this Gospel, the ants made a hole in a very crucial place.
The text says:

And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her [...].

The 'lacuna', or gap, which hides where Jesus kissed Mary has tantalised scholars for decades."

one author i read wonders why it wouldn't be a huge schande for a nice jewish boy to be unmarried at 30... strange how this is never brought up in the NT... vuss machts mit dot?

239 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:11:02pm

re: #220 LudwigVanQuixote

Hey Hoops, glad you are here...and yes in that particular

C is a constant. I promise it is a constant. If it weren't the energy bads would be different in distant spectra. c has been measured to be constant for at least 13 billion years.

I agree that the inflationary stage of the early universe is a giant mystery. It is obvious that for that to have happened, something very bizarre must have happened ( regime, c may not have been constant though there are other equivalent things that could also have happened). However, at those energy scales, we simply have no idea.

The string theorists have some ideas, but there is nothing close to a complete picture. What is obvious though is that as you increase in energy you find more and more symmetries. So, it looks like, at some point in the inflationary phase, the symmetry got broken and c became fixed. However the nature and details of that are completely unknown.

Exactly.. That is the area of math that interests me...and I dispute c as a constant for 13 billion years..( Can't prove it )
but during the expansion period is where all the mystery of lights roots are...Very interesting...Talk to you on the next science thread....
Thanks

240 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:11:32pm

Here's the Arkansas/Huckabee connection to Rekers.

(h/t Webevintage)

[Link: www.arktimes.com...]

241 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:12:29pm

re: #233 spare o'lake

Hmm; not sure that this applies under that. I'd say its more exposing brazen hypocricy in the name of fighting bigots. Less political haymaking, more moral 'suasion'

242 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:12:40pm

George Rekers Background Info.

In his one online publication Summary of Expert Opinions on How Parenting by Homosexuality-Behaving Parent Figures Affects Child Adjustment and Well-Being (PDF document), he makes several references to work used on abusive parents and single parents and then labels them as proof that same-sex couples are detriments to children. He uses a plethora of religious sources– rather than use sources from the American Psychological Association, the National Association of Social Workers, or the American Academy of Pediatrics — to come to his conclusion that children only do well, and should only be raised, by a mother and a father, and that homosexual parents are dangerous to children (Summary, page 1-2).

Rekers continues on in this paper to say that all the data and evidence that supports same sex couples are equally able to be nurturing and loving parents is false because those students only factor in to foster children, which Rekers claims to all have psychological problems, that the samples were too small and not random, and they have not been done for a long enough period of time (summary page 1). Rekers also states that homosexual couples are far less stable than heterosexual ones and that homosexual people are all psychologically damaged. He also states that same-sex couples in more tolerant cultures like the Netherlands are quite unstable because they are psychologically damaged.

These quotes are not from any mental-health associations, but from the religious University of St. Thomas Law School as his source for this data.

243 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:12:54pm

re: #237 albusteve

I'm still tripping...I don't have 24/7 net access...but it's good to take a break

Hope the baby Cowboy is doing fine. (you too)

244 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:13:13pm

re: #239 HoosierHoops

Exactly.. That is the area of math that interests me...and I dispute c as a constant for 13 billion years..( Can't prove it )
but during the expansion period is where all the mystery of lights roots are...Very interesting...Talk to you on the next science thread...
Thanks

C is a constant. I promise it is a constant. If it weren't constant, the energy bands would be different in distant spectra. c has been measured to be constant for at least 13 billion years.

245 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:13:21pm

re: #241 windsagio

No cat!

246 Judith  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:14:45pm

It's really funny and I'm not surprised but I keep thinking about all the gay teenagers and their parents and what they have been put through because of this lying, self righteous, hypocrite. To me this is the definition of evildoer, wolf in sheep's clothing.

Oh and I checked the website. Nice bods. Next time I need to have surgery and need some help I'll go right there for some eye candy. (Do I have to add sarcasm tags?)

247 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:15:24pm

Another meaningless AGW fact:

Ice extent for April 2010 was the largest for that month in the past decade.
[Link: nsidc.org...]

248 webevintage  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:16:44pm

I know I'm late to the party, but this fucker hires himself as an "expert" as all that is horrible about teh!Gahy.
Back in 2004, the state of Arkansas produced a dubious "expert witness" to defend the indefensible -- the Mike Huckabee administration regulation adopted by a board he packed with conservative religionists that prevented gay people (or people in homes that included gay people) from adopting or being foster parents. The rule was struck down by the state Supreme Court. That led to an initiated act that was approved by voters. It recently was struck down by a circuit judge.

[Link: www.arktimes.com...]

I have stopped being surprised when a gay hater is exposed as homosexual themselves.

249 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:17:32pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

Its just such a cool picture!

Since you caught me tho', I"ll find something that follows the rules, due to quality loss htat one can't be a longtermer anwyays :D

250 webevintage  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:17:43pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

Here's the Arkansas/Huckabee connection to Rekers.

(h/t Webevintage)

[Link: www.arktimes.com...]

Ha!
Beat me to it by a few posts!

251 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:17:48pm

Henceforth, I wish to be known as Dr. Kragar, thanks to my doctorate level research into the divine entity which is myself.

Have I mentioned lately that I am immense and immortal?

252 avanti  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:17:54pm

re: #225 engineer dog

there's a whole 'escort' section in most yellow pages

amazing how many highly respectable but somewhat lonely gentlemen are in need of renting a toothsome young maiden purely for the purpose of providing conversation and companionship at dinner and/or a show

At the casino's you find several levels of gals trying to make a buck. There are the traditional hookers, but also "chip girls" they keep a high roller company at the tables for a tip, and maybe a free dinner. Actually, I've been tipped a time or two a the crap table if I'm rolling for over 10 minutes, but I find the young girls get bigger tips. :)

253 Jadespring  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:17:59pm

re: #247 spare o'lake

Quality not quantity.

254 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:18:15pm

re: #247 spare o'lake

Another meaningless AGW fact:

"well within the standard deviation"

meaningless indeed.

255 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:18:23pm

re: #247 spare o'lake

Another meaningless AGW fact:

Yes, let's read:

During April, Arctic sea ice extent declined at a steady pace, remaining just below the 1979 to 2000 average. Ice extent for April 2010 was the largest for that month in the past decade. At the same time, changing wind patterns have caused older, thicker ice to move south along Greenland’s east coast, where it will likely melt during the summer. Temperatures in the Arctic remained above average.

April 2010 compared to past years

Average ice extent for April 2010 was 820,000 square kilometers (317,000 square miles) greater than the record low for April, observed in 2007, and 310,000 square kilometers (120,000 square miles) below the average extent for the month. The linear rate of decline for April over the 1979 to 2010 period is now 2.6% per decade.

256 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:18:41pm

re: #249 windsagio

I looked close to make sure I wasn't missing something & I think I see a parrot. So, since it's a cool one, it will pass. hah

257 Lidane  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:18:48pm

re: #246 Judith

It's really funny and I'm not surprised but I keep thinking about all the gay teenagers and their parents and what they have been put through because of this lying, self righteous, hypocrite. To me this is the definition of evildoer, wolf in sheep's clothing.

Yeah, this.

I think that's what kills me about these self-righteous anti-gay assholes the most. They heap the worst, most vile bullshit on the backs of gay kids out there, driving wedges between families while preaching about how moral and right with God they are. Then you find out later that they're doing the very same things they condemn those kids for the whole time. It's galling.

The more that people like this Rekers jackass are exposed, the better.

258 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:19:01pm

re: #198 avanti


The 'lacuna', or gap, which hides where Jesus kissed Mary has tantalised scholars for decades."

"If you want to, you can kiss me on the veranda."
"The lips will be fine, thank you."
Three Amigos

259 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:19:33pm

re: #258 PT Barnum

"If you want to, you can kiss me on the veranda."
"The lips will be fine, thank you."
Three Amigos

"Are you the singing bush?"

/take that as you will

260 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:19:46pm

re: #248 webevintage

I have stopped being surprised when a gay hater is exposed as homosexual themselves.

/kinda like making big money preaching social justice...

261 ArchangelMichael  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:20:06pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Are you the singing bush?"

/take that as you will

You killed the invisible swordsman!

262 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:20:07pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Are you the singing bush?"

/take that as you will

Now THAT takes talent!

263 webevintage  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:20:40pm

re: #260 brookly red

I have stopped being surprised when a gay hater is exposed as homosexual themselves.


/kinda like making big money preaching social justice...

Huh?
You lost me there.

264 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:20:50pm

re: #261 ArchangelMichael

You killed the invisible swordsman!

bullshit... show me the body.

265 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:20:53pm

Mrs Barnum says I'm incorrigible, but I say I'm encouragable.

266 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:21:52pm

re: #265 PT Barnum

Mrs Barnum says I'm incorrigible, but I say I'm encouragable.

as long as your able...

267 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:21:56pm

re: #261 ArchangelMichael

You killed the invisible swordsman!

WE both shot up!

268 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:22:25pm

re: #260 brookly red

I have stopped being surprised when a gay hater is exposed as homosexual themselves.


/kinda like making big money preaching social justice...

Making big money from preaching social justice? You mean like the Catholic Chursh?

269 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:22:42pm

re: #268 Gus 802

Church. PIMF

270 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:23:50pm

re: #268 Gus 802

Making big money from preaching social justice? You mean like the Catholic Chursh?

been dippin into the communion wine again?

271 Kragar  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:23:54pm

re: #264 brookly red

bullshit... show me the body.

CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP NANI!

272 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:23:55pm

re: #263 webevintage

Huh?
You lost me there.

think about it :)

273 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:24:20pm

re: #268 Gus 802

Making big money from preaching social justice? You mean like the Catholic Chursh?

*hic*

274 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:07pm

re: #241 windsagio

Hmm; not sure that this applies under that. I'd say its more exposing brazen hypocricy in the name of fighting bigots. Less political haymaking, more moral 'suasion'

I don't disagree that the religious bigots are a huge problem in the US - in fact they seem to be a much bigger problem than north of the border. One of the major differences between our societies seems to be precisely the much greater appeal and popularity of these religious zealots in America.
I have no idea why that is.

275 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:08pm

re: #251 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Henceforth, I wish to be known as Dr. Kragar, thanks to my doctorate level research into the divine entity which is myself.

Have I mentioned lately that I am immense and immortal?

Jabba, is that you?

276 Mocking Jay  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:10pm

If I get into preaching for the money and go the whole nine yards, claim I talk to the big man upstairs, faith-healing, yadda yadda, and then get exposed as an closet atheist, can I be prosecuted as a fraud? Just curious.

277 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:27pm

re: #270 PT Barnum

been dippin into the communion wine again?

Is there a communion whiskey?

/

278 webevintage  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:38pm

re: #268 Gus 802

Making big money from preaching social justice? You mean like the Catholic Chursh?

Maybe that is what he meant?
Of course the people who actually work for "social justice" do not make money, many have taken vows of poverty or live very frugally.
But yes, The Church itself is bloated with cash, real estate and lots of stuff.

279 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:53pm

re: #244 LudwigVanQuixote

C is a constant. I promise it is a constant. If it weren't constant, the energy bands would be different in distant spectra. c has been measured to be constant for at least 13 billion years.

Very true... I kind of get it..Thought experiment..
Let say I'm light at the first moment in time..The Big freaking big bang...
Light's speed is zero.. So now everything expands... As the universe expanded did light slowly speed up with the expansion? or at just at a certain point was it able to escape mass as a c constant?
That math interests me...I'd like to learn more...
But if light escaped at the speed of c that means we will never be able to see the expansion period with telescopes..There was no light to seen..But if there was a variable speed of light in the beginning to obtain c..( Like a race car speeding up from the pits to a final speed) Then there is hope to see some light during the expansion period looking back in the future...
What do you think Lud?

280 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:25:57pm

re: #268 Gus 802

Making big money from preaching social justice? You mean like the Catholic Chursh?

Damn, Gus.
Here we are talking about a Protestant, and you have to bring up the Catholic Church.

I'm as upset with the Church as anyone about the pedophilia; but was this comment really necessary?

281 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:26:24pm

re: #268 Gus 802

Making big money from preaching social justice? You mean like the Catholic Chursh?

never heard of them, I was just snarking at some political types that shall remain unnamed...

282 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:26:42pm

re: #255 Gus 802

Excellent post, but pease don't forget that volume is not area. The total amount of ice is going down even more rapidly.

283 ArchangelMichael  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:26:49pm

re: #264 brookly red

bullshit... show me the body.

I saw dust fly and an indention in the ground.

284 MandyManners  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:26:59pm

re: #281 brookly red

never heard of them, I was just snarking at some political types that shall remain unnamed...

Jeremiah Wright? Al Sharpton?

285 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:27:19pm

re: #256 Stanley Sea

Bread!

286 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:27:22pm

re: #280 reine.de.tout

Damn, Gus.
Here we are talking about a Protestant, and you have to bring up the Catholic Church.

I'm as upset with the Church as anyone about the pedophilia; but was this comment really necessary?

I was being facetious. You know, Glenn Beck and his comments about social justice and the way the Catholic Church promotes social justice.

287 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:27:44pm

re: #278 webevintage

Maybe that is what he meant?
Of course the people who actually work for "social justice" do not make money, many have taken vows of poverty or live very frugally.
But yes, The Church itself is bloated with cash, real estate and lots of stuff.

Still, bad comparison as I know you agree.

Gay hating compared to social justice? I just don't see any connect.

If we want to start listing all the hypocrisy of the world, it could go on forever!

288 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:27:56pm

re: #284 MandyManners

Jeremiah Wright? Al Sharpton?

I won't name names...

289 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:28:23pm

re: #274 spare o'lake

That's a very interesting question really, and thousands of pages have been written about it.

My quick 1 liner on it: "puritans and the South".

290 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:28:27pm

re: #283 ArchangelMichael

I saw dust fly and an indention in the ground.


[Video]

so I farted... proves nothing.

291 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:28:59pm

re: #276 JasonA

If I get into preaching for the money and go the whole nine yards, claim I talk to the big man upstairs, faith-healing, yadda yadda, and then get exposed as an closet atheist, can I be prosecuted as a fraud? Just curious.

i dunno...but you'll be persecuted as one!

292 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:29:03pm

re: #253 Jadespring

re: #254 Aceofwhat?

re: #255 Gus 802

Yes, yes, yes...but it was the greatest for that month in 10 years.
10 years.
*sigh*

293 MandyManners  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:30:00pm

re: #288 brookly red

I won't name names...

That's why you have me.

294 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:30:10pm

re: #280 reine.de.tout

Damn, Gus.
Here we are talking about a Protestant, and you have to bring up the Catholic Church.

I'm as upset with the Church as anyone about the pedophilia; but was this comment really necessary?

yep. this crazy is technically on my side of the aisle, although i don't recognize it as anything that i stand for :(

295 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:30:22pm

re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote

Excellent post, but pease don't forget that volume is not area. The total amount of ice is going down even more rapidly.

Exactly. Again, another study that will be taken out of context by the wingnuts and it only based on ice growth for the month of April.

296 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:30:23pm

re: #279 HoosierHoops

Very true... I kind of get it..Thought experiment..
Let say I'm light at the first moment in time..The Big freaking big bang...
Light's speed is zero.. So now everything expands... As the universe expanded did light slowly speed up with the expansion? or at just at a certain point was it able to escape mass as a c constant?
That math interests me...I'd like to learn more...
But if light escaped at the speed of c that means we will never be able to see the expansion period with telescopes..There was no light to seen..But if there was a variable speed of light in the beginning to obtain c..( Like a race car speeding up from the pits to a final speed) Then there is hope to see some light during the expansion period looking back in the future...
What do you think Lud?

I have no idea what happened during inflation. No one really does.

My point about energy bands is that if c is different, then alpha, the fine structure constant (and for that matter the permitivity and permeability of free space) is different and then all energy bands in spectra would be differently spaced. However, the hydrogen lines from ages past, look the same as they do today.

There is no way around this.

297 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:31:29pm

re: #293 MandyManners

That's why you have me.

go for it!

298 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:31:35pm

re: #295 Gus 802

Exactly. Again, another study that will be taken out of context by the wingnuts and it only based on ice growth for the month of April.

just to repeat....

And I dedicate this, with love, to all deniers out there...

299 Reginald Perrin  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:32:14pm

re: #247 spare o'lake

Did you read this on your linked article?

At the same time, changing wind patterns have caused older, thicker ice to move south along Greenland’s east coast, where it will likely melt during the summer. Temperatures in the Arctic remained above average. Arctic air temperatures remained persistently warmer than average throughout the winter and early spring season. April temperatures were about 3 to 4 degrees Celsius (5 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit) above average across much of the Arctic Ocean, and up to 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) above normal in northern Canada. C
300 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:33:10pm

re: #282 LudwigVanQuixote

Excellent post, but pease don't forget that volume is not area. The total amount of ice is going down even more rapidly.

Are you saying that I am on thin ice with that observation?

301 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:33:26pm

re: #152 brookly red

OK going to play the numbers...

will play the first response.

I hope you read Charles TOS clause on "Lizard Dibs".

302 Digital Display  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:33:43pm

re: #296 LudwigVanQuixote

I have no idea what happened during inflation. No one really does.

My point about energy bands is that if c is different, then alpha, the fine structure constant (and for that matter the permitivity and permeability of free space) is different and then all energy bands in spectra would be differently spaced. However, the hydrogen lines from ages past, look the same as they do today.

There is no way around this.


That's exactly why it's so exciting about the LHC.. We live in exciting times for Physics and science...I think we are going to go back in time and see how matter and light interact..
Thanks Ludwig!

303 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:33:54pm

re: #247 spare o'lake

Another meaningless AGW fact:

Did you read your own articles and put it into context. The only meaningless FACT is that deniers refuse to look at science or make even the most rudimetary attempts to reason clearly or research effectively. The only FACT is that deniers are ignorant of science and arrogant enough to believe that their BS impresses educated people.

304 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:34:28pm

re: #300 spare o'lake

Are you saying that I am on thin ice with that observation?

Yes I am saying you are way off and making a foolish denier claim in the way you are posting.

305 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:34:37pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

I hope you read Charles TOS clause on "Lizard Dibs".

show me the penny...

306 MandyManners  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:35:07pm

re: #297 brookly red

go for it!

Done did.

307 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:35:25pm

re: #84 avanti

Breaking: Bombing suspect will not appear in court today or tomorrow because he's singing like a bird.

That's what they said about the last guy, that's what they say about every capture. Don't take government proclamations about intel success at face value.

308 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:36:11pm

re: #297 brookly red

Yeah dude, she's way ahead of you (for better or for worse :p)

309 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:36:48pm

re: #307 RogueOne

do you have any substantiated evidence at all that the government has been lying about that?

310 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:37:28pm

Here's the context:

Glenn Beck Thinks Catholics Should “Leave Their Church”
Monday, March 8, 2010, 1:42 PM
Joe Carter

On his radio program, Fox News’ Glenn Beck encouraged listeners to leave their church if it proclaims a concern for social justice:

I’m begging you, your right to religion and freedom to exercise religion and read all of the passages of the Bible as you want to read them and as your church wants to preach them . . . are going to come under the ropes in the next year. If it lasts that long it will be the next year. I beg you, look for the words ’social justice’ or ‘economic justice’ on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words. Now, am I advising people to leave their church? Yes!”

Listen to the audio here.

Although many Protestant denomination express concerns about social justice, the term is most closely associated with the social teachings of the Catholic Church. A Jesuit priest, Luigi Taparelli D’Azeglio, coined the term in the 1840s and based the concept on the movie downloads teachings of Thomas Aquinas.

According to the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, “a large part of the Church’s social teaching is solicited and determined by important social questions, to which social justice is the proper answer.” Social justice is even given a section in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

I didn't bring it up. One of the hecklers did.

311 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:39:08pm

re: #309 windsagio

do you have any substantiated evidence at all that the government has been lying about that?

It's called SOP. Ask yourself what you would want the enemy to think.

312 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:39:30pm

re: #306 MandyManners

re: #308 windsagio

OK just for fun... Al Gore.

313 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:39:49pm

re: #312 brookly red

George W Bush!

314 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:40:34pm

re: #311 RogueOne

Scaled Orthographic Projection? Damn!

315 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:40:48pm

re: #313 windsagio

George W Bush!

Dick Cheney! Who is in Saudi Arabia now, meeting with King Abdullah!

316 Jadespring  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:41:25pm

re: #312 brookly red

re: #308 windsagio

OK just for fun... Al Gore.

Are we supposed to know who that is?

317 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:41:39pm

re: #311 RogueOne

It's called SOP. Ask yourself what you would want the enemy to think.

that at any moment something really bad could happen to them AND we would make fun of it on blog posts?

318 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:42:38pm

re: #316 Jadespring

Are we supposed to know who that is?

best if you don't...

319 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:43:24pm

re: #314 windsagio

Scaled Orthographic Projection? Damn!

They want them to believe he's singing like a bird (and for all we know he might be), they want them to move, to communicate, and to make mistakes based on faulty assumptions. They've already made arrests and I can guarantee you they didn't get the intel for those arrests from this idiot. It's much more likely they got it from his cellphone and email. They were moving on people in afghanistan/pakistan before this tool was even in custody.

320 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:43:29pm

re: #299 Reginald Perrin

Believe it or not, I'm not an AGW denier but neither am I an AGW advocate...I'm just hoping we can catch a break from mother nature.

First the water freezes into thin ice. Then, if the trend continues and more thin ice forms, the thin ice eventually gets thicker. Does this not make sense?

Does anyone else find it odd that AGW advocates get hostile when challeged with even slightly anomalous facts?

321 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:44:17pm

re: #313 windsagio

re: #315 Stanley Sea

now, now, I said preaching social justice... can't accuse them of that.

322 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:44:53pm

re: #320 spare o'lake

Believe it or not, I'm not an AGW denier but neither am I an AGW advocate...I'm just hoping we can catch a break from mother nature.

First the water freezes into thin ice. Then, if the trend continues and more thin ice forms, the thin ice eventually gets thicker. Does this not make sense?

Does anyone else find it odd that AGW advocates get hostile when challeged with even slightly anomalous facts?

standard deviations are your friend, friend...

323 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:45:17pm

re: #321 brookly red

haha point to you :D

324 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:45:24pm

re: #316 Jadespring

Are we supposed to know who that is?

internet pioneer;)

325 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:45:35pm

re: #315 Stanley Sea

Dick Cheney! Who is in Saudi Arabia now, meeting with King Abdullah!

freak hurricane hits Iran... film at 11:00

326 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:45:37pm

re: #295 Gus 802

You said WINGNUTS?
tsk, tsk, tsk...Pres. Obama said not to call folks that.

327 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:45:57pm

re: #319 RogueOne

So its just 'take my word for it, they're lying'.

And I thought I had mistrust for authority!

328 Gus  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:47:41pm

re: #326 spare o'lake

You said WINGNUTS?
tsk, tsk, tsk...Pres. Obama said not to call folks that.

Well, I don't take my orders from President Obama. I said moonbats last week about something I was reading. Not about anyone here.

329 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:47:58pm

re: #327 windsagio

So its just 'take my word for it, they're lying'.

And I thought I had mistrust for authority!

This time it's not a issue of mistrust. I trust them to do what they always do to confuse an enemy. The american public doesn't need to know what, if anything, this guy is saying right now. All we need to know is they're working.

330 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:48:50pm

re: #304 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes I am saying you are way off and making a foolish denier claim in the way you are posting.

Way to wreck my pun, you humourless dweeb.

331 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:50:36pm

re: #329 RogueOne

...

dude, like wow

"Its okay for the government to lie to us, they know what they're doing!"

"Also, I don't believe in these proven police techniques!"

332 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:50:51pm

re: #320 spare o'lake

I have a gnat buzzing around my ankle.

333 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:51:12pm

re: #330 spare o'lake

I'm trying to be nice, really I am.

But don't get offended when people get irked at your stealth-denial bullcrap. Especially Ludwig.

334 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:51:18pm

re: #321 brookly red

re: #315 Stanley Sea

now, now, I said preaching social justice... can't accuse them of that.

I was reaching for the boogie men!

335 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:52:05pm

re: #320 spare o'lake

Believe it or not, I'm not an AGW denier but neither am I an AGW advocate...I'm just hoping we can catch a break from mother nature.

First the water freezes into thin ice. Then, if the trend continues and more thin ice forms, the thin ice eventually gets thicker. Does this not make sense?

Does anyone else find it odd that AGW advocates get hostile when challeged with even slightly anomalous facts?

We get hostile lies and misrepresentations of facts. We get hostile to cherry picking. We get hostile to pseudo-scientific babble masquerading as science in an attempt to cloud the science and frankly lie.

We get especially hostile to those who d this and then take on a mock affront as if they were "just presenting something legitimate counterpoints" and even dress that up in unearned phony scientific language like "anomalous" when there never was a counterpoint or legitimacy to the question in the first place.

We get hostile because we have to write the same things over and over and over to people who have seen the correct explanations many times. For example the entire ice are vs. ice volume thing has come up here at least a dozen times. There was even a whole thread dedicated to that point. We get hostile after typing out long anfd thoughtful explainations based on taking the time to find out the science (and some of us actually are scientists) providing link after link and fact after fact only to have it all ignored and repeat the process over and over with the same fools who repeat the same nonsense.

It is insulting. Read the damned science for once before opening your mouth. If you have a legitimate question, then ask it as one. Don't post about some "inconvenient FACT" as if you have a "gotcha" when in reality you know as much about the topic as your cat.

336 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:53:32pm

re: #322 Aceofwhat?

standard deviations are your friend, friend...

Nice tie-in to the rent-boy theme.

337 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:54:34pm

re: #335 LudwigVanQuixote

PIMF because this is damned important.

We get hostile to lies and misrepresentations of facts. We get hostile to cherry picking. We get hostile to pseudo-scientific babble masquerading as science in an attempt to cloud the science and frankly lie.

We get especially hostile to those who do this and then take on mock affront, as if they were "just presenting some legitimate counterpoints" and even dress that up in unearned phony scientific language like "anomalous" when there never was a counterpoint or legitimacy to the question in the first place.

We get hostile, because we have to write the same things over and over and over to people who have seen the correct explanations many times. For example, the entire ice area vs. ice volume thing has come up here at least a dozen times. There was even a whole thread dedicated to that point. We get hostile after typing out long and thoughtful explainations based on taking the time to find out the science (and some of us actually are scientists) providing link after link, and fact after fact, only to have it all ignored and repeat the process over and over, with the same fools who repeat the same nonsense.

It is insulting. Read the damned science for once before opening your mouth. If you have a legitimate question, then ask it as one. Don't post about some "inconvenient FACT" as if you have a "gotcha" when in reality you know as much about the topic as your cat.

338 theheat  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:55:12pm

I suppose it could be considered stereotyping if I said lots of these gay-bashing bible thumpers love them some penis as much or more as most of the ladies.

But that wouldn't mean it wasn't true. It is true. Over and over again, it's true.

These are some sick, sick, judgmental, hater sonsabitches, and until the Republicans distance themselves from this freak show, I've left and I'm not looking back.

339 Reginald Perrin  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:55:33pm

re: #320 spare o'lake

First the water freezes into thin ice. Then, if the trend continues and more thin ice forms, the thin ice eventually gets thicker.

Here is what makes it appear you didn't really read the article your posted.

In February, the strongly negative phase of the Arctic Oscillation was associated with a strong Beaufort Gyre, enhancing ice motion from the western to the eastern Arctic. A weaker Transpolar Drift Stream also slowed the movement of ice from the Siberian coast of Russia across the Arctic basin, and reduced ice flow out of Fram Strait. The wind pattern changed in March, when the Arctic Oscillation went into a more neutral phase. As a result, the flow of ice sped up through Fram Strait and along the coast of Greenland. This pattern helps to remove older ice from the central Arctic, pushing it toward the warm waters of the North Atlantic, where it will melt.

In past decades, a strong Beaufort Gyre tended to retain old, thick ice in the Arctic Ocean. However, this may no longer hold true, because in recent years ice transiting the Beaufort Gyre tends not to survive the summer melt season

340 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:55:42pm

re: #331 windsagio

...

dude, like wow

"Its okay for the government to lie to us, they know what they're doing!"

"Also, I don't believe in these proven police techniques!"

I'm not sure where you're disconnecting with this. All I'm saying is you should take into consideration that you shouldn't take government pronouncements of intel success at face value. They have a need to push out disinformation, it's in their/our best interests if everyone thinks this guy is giving up everything he knows. They have a very limited time frame in order to capture as many contacts as this guy may have, they have to do and say what it takes to get that done.

341 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:56:49pm

re: #333 windsagio

I'm trying to be nice, really I am.

But don't get offended when people get irked at your stealth-denial bullcrap. Especially Ludwig.

I use only the most advanced state-of-the-art stealth-denial weaponry.

342 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:57:51pm

re: #336 spare o'lake

Nice tie-in to the rent-boy theme.

heh. i wish i were so clever...although wouldn't a rent-boy be a nonstandard deviation?

i was thinking something more like this...

343 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:58:40pm

re: #340 RogueOne

I understand your point, I just think you have no real jutsification in getting there.

You're making the (evidence tending to prove false) assumption that there's no way the gov't would get useful information out of the guy. Why are you so sure he wouldn't sing?

344 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 3:59:05pm

re: #341 spare o'lake

That's what's so frustrating about you. You can be witty and funny, but you use your gifts for pure evil :(

345 allegro  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:02:51pm

re: #340 RogueOne

They have a need to push out disinformation, it's in their/our best interests if everyone thinks this guy is giving up everything he knows. They have a very limited time frame in order to capture as many contacts as this guy may have, they have to do and say what it takes to get that done.

Couldn't the reverse also be argued? If his buds are told he's spilling his guts, that puts them on alert and drives them underground, wouldn't ya think?

346 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:03:26pm

re: #341 spare o'lake

I use only the most advanced state-of-the-art stealth-denial weaponry.

as opposed to me who just don't give a crap :)

347 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:04:21pm

re: #343 windsagio

I understand your point, I just think you have no real jutsification in getting there.

You're making the (evidence tending to prove false) assumption that there's no way the gov't would get useful information out of the guy. Why are you so sure he wouldn't sing?

I do have a real justification for getting there. When I tell you this is SOP, I'm not joking. It is. I spent almost a decade as an Intel officer but this tactic isn't a secret.

I never said they wouldn't get any intel out of this guy all I said was even if they weren't we sure as hell wouldn't know about it, at least not yet. That should be taken into consideration before you start dancing around that he's signing like a bird because you heard that on the news. EVERYBODY on the planet heard that on the news....that's the damn point.

348 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:04:49pm

re: #335 LudwigVanQuixote

Fact: April, 2010 had the most sea ice cover since April, 2001.
I thought it was interesting...did you even know about it before I posted it? Why don't you thank me for posting current climate facts?
I didn't make it up, NSIDC saw fit to report it on their website.
I didn't claim it was earth-shattering, either.
I don't understand why it got your shorts in such a knot.
You respond like a vicious dog.

349 Jadespring  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:05:22pm

re: #320 spare o'lake

Believe it or not, I'm not an AGW denier but neither am I an AGW advocate...I'm just hoping we can catch a break from mother nature.

First the water freezes into thin ice. Then, if the trend continues and more thin ice forms, the thin ice eventually gets thicker. Does this not make sense?

Does anyone else find it odd that AGW advocates get hostile when challeged with even slightly anomalous facts?

It would make sense if that's how it works. It doesn't though.

I wish I could remember all the technical terms but after two glasses of wine I can't so I'll go non-tech. The ice up there now that yes is showing more area is crappier, shittier and not the type of ice that last from season to season. If it did you would be hearing cheers from on high.

Instead you have scientists going up there and expecting more ice because of the the high up satellite pics and encountering big fields of shit ice and in some cases not even fields but bits and pieces of craptactular ice that breaks apart in huge chunks whenever the wind blows or their boats touch it. One survey team that I heard a report on expected to find the season to season ice several hundred kms before they finally found it. Yeah sure there was ice but as explained before it was shitty and crappy and not actually stuck right together in some places.

There's also something to do with the temperature of the water and the saline content underneath this crap ice. It's all off and screwed and not normal for good ice that stays from year to year. There's basically this layer of fresh warmer water that hasn't been seen before which they think may be the formation of some sort of positive feed back loop that effects the quality of the ice that does form. It also sucks for seal hunters whether animal or human. Usually when killed the seals float and make them easy to get at. Now the damn things just sink.

Apologies to scientists out there for my non-techie attempt at an explanation.

350 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:06:33pm

re: #343 windsagio

BTW, you're acting like I think someone is doing something wrong. I don't.

351 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:08:27pm

re: #349 Jadespring

The cliche says the Inuit have 51 words for "ice". I don't think "craptactcular" is one.

352 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:08:32pm

re: #348 spare o'lake

it's a tough room to play... ;)

353 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:09:30pm

re: #348 spare o'lake

Fact: April, 2010 had the most sea ice cover since April, 2001.
I thought it was interesting...did you even know about it before I posted it? Why don't you thank me for posting current climate facts?
I didn't make it up, NSIDC saw fit to report it on their website.
I didn't claim it was earth-shattering, either.
I don't understand why it got your shorts in such a knot.
You respond like a vicious dog.

Spare I am attacking your foolish, ignorant and incorrect, misrepresentations of that and your current attempt to pick a fight.

I repeat, as has been explained many many times, the issue is with volume (as in the mass of the ice we have) and not in area. The sea ice extent in April, is for one month and you already can not pull that out of yearly or decadal data and expect it to be an indicator of an entire trend - let alone a refutation of one.

So you ge tthis attack for being stupid and in fact, so stupid that you keep swinging even after being proven wrong completely. However, you are too stupid and ignorant of the science to see that.

354 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:09:45pm

re: #344 windsagio

That's what's so frustrating about you. You can be witty and funny, but you use your gifts for pure evil :(

I sold my soul to Satan 586 years ago...it's part of the deal.

355 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:09:58pm

re: #350 RogueOne

That's not my issue. I just don't agree with your logic.

You're overcomplicating things and throwing out some (potential, but unverifiable) references as an appeal to authority.

The simplest explanation is often the best.

356 Bagua  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:10:42pm

re: #354 spare o'lake

I sold my soul to Satan 586 years ago...it's part of the deal.

Are your checks late the last few months?

357 Aceofwhat?  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:10:52pm

re: #351 Decatur Deb

The cliche says the Inuit have 51 words for "ice". I don't think "craptactcular" is one.

at the rate the ice is thinning, they will soon...

358 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:11:15pm

re: #353 LudwigVanQuixote

Spare I am attacking your foolish, ignorant and incorrect, misrepresentations of that and your current attempt to pick a fight.

I repeat, as has been explained many many times, the issue is with volume (as in the mass of the ice we have) and not in area. The sea ice extent in April, is for one month and you already can not pull that out of yearly or decadal data and expect it to be an indicator of an entire trend - let alone a refutation of one.

So you ge tthis attack for being stupid and in fact, so stupid that you keep swinging even after being proven wrong completely. However, you are too stupid and ignorant of the science to see that.

I don't see any attempt to pick a fight... that usually involves name calling & such.

359 Jadespring  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:11:57pm

re: #351 Decatur Deb

The cliche says the Inuit have 51 words for "ice". I don't think "craptactcular" is one.

Wouldn't surprise me if they were inventing some new words for the ice conditions they are seeing now though.

But yeah I doubt craptacular would be one of them. :D

360 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:12:02pm

re: #349 Jadespring

It would make sense if that's how it works. It doesn't though.

I wish I could remember all the technical terms but after two glasses of wine I can't so I'll go non-tech. The ice up there now that yes is showing more area is crappier, shittier and not the type of ice that last from season to season. If it did you would be hearing cheers from on high.

Instead you have scientists going up there and expecting more ice because of the the high up satellite pics and encountering big fields of shit ice and in some cases not even fields but bits and pieces of craptactular ice that breaks apart in huge chunks whenever the wind blows or their boats touch it. One survey team that I heard a report on expected to find the season to season ice several hundred kms before they finally found it. Yeah sure there was ice but as explained before it was shitty and crappy and not actually stuck right together in some places.

There's also something to do with the temperature of the water and the saline content underneath this crap ice. It's all off and screwed and not normal for good ice that stays from year to year. There's basically this layer of fresh warmer water that hasn't been seen before which they think may be the formation of some sort of positive feed back loop that effects the quality of the ice that does form. It also sucks for seal hunters whether animal or human. Usually when killed the seals float and make them easy to get at. Now the damn things just sink.

Apologies to scientists out there for my non-techie attempt at an explanation.

Whatever you're drinking, would you mind pouring me a quart?

361 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:14:50pm

re: #353 LudwigVanQuixote

Spare I am attacking your foolish, ignorant and incorrect, misrepresentations of that and your current attempt to pick a fight.

I repeat, as has been explained many many times, the issue is with volume (as in the mass of the ice we have) and not in area. The sea ice extent in April, is for one month and you already can not pull that out of yearly or decadal data and expect it to be an indicator of an entire trend - let alone a refutation of one.

So you ge tthis attack for being stupid and in fact, so stupid that you keep swinging even after being proven wrong completely. However, you are too stupid and ignorant of the science to see that.

I cannot be proven wrong because I only stated a fact. All the rest consists of the straw men and spinning on the part of the resident AGW nazis.

362 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:15:03pm

re: #359 Jadespring

Wouldn't surprise me if they were inventing some new words for the ice conditions they are seeing now though.

But yeah I doubt craptacular would be one of them. :D

Hell, some of the people might be registered.

363 RogueOne  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:16:30pm

re: #355 windsagio

That's not my issue. I just don't agree with your logic.

You're overcomplicating things and throwing out some (potential, but unverifiable) references as an appeal to authority.

The simplest explanation is often the best.

You would make a crappy terrorist.//

The simplest explanation is the one I gave you. Scroll back through recent history, every time they pick up a target they come out and say he's talking. They need these people to poke their heads up. How is that going to happen if they think this idiot is standing strong and keeping his mouth shut?

364 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:17:48pm

re: #361 spare o'lake

I cannot be proven wrong because I only stated a fact. All the rest consists of the straw men and spinning on the part of the resident AGW nazis.


WEHHH boo hoo

365 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:18:43pm

re: #356 Bagua

Are your checks late the last few months?

Why yes, as a matter of fact they haven't been arriving at all since November, 2008. What can this mean?

366 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:18:59pm

re: #320 spare o'lake

Believe it or not, I'm not an AGW denier but neither am I an AGW advocate...I'm just hoping we can catch a break from mother nature.

First the water freezes into thin ice. Then, if the trend continues and more thin ice forms, the thin ice eventually gets thicker. Does this not make sense?

Does anyone else find it odd that AGW advocates get hostile when challeged with even slightly anomalous facts?

This is a bit like saying you're not a flat earther, but neither are you a round earther

367 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:19:30pm

re: #363 RogueOne

You would make a crappy terrorist.//

The simplest explanation is the one I gave you. Scroll back through recent history, every time they pick up a target they come out and say he's talking. They need these people to poke their heads up. How is that going to happen if they think this idiot is standing strong and keeping his mouth shut?

Re: Sopranos, quote Pussy, Big: 'they know but they don't know".

368 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:20:55pm

re: #348 spare o'lake

Fact: April, 2010 had the most sea ice cover since April, 2001.
I thought it was interesting...did you even know about it before I posted it?

And further lets look at your nonsense. a little more:

Your fact when taken out of context and presented as it was makes a false argument.

Here is the actual data - in context:

[Link: nsidc.org...]

You must look at the overall trends... and not cherry pick. The argument you are trying to make by cherry picking is a total lie. Your mock offense is another total lie. One gets tired of this crap Spare. So do us all a favor, learn to study some actual science, study it, and then if you have questions ask them honestly.

In fact, you even cherrypicked your own link. Here is some more of that context, that liars like you really hate.

Arctic sea ice extent averaged 14.69 million square kilometers (5.67 square miles) for the month of April, just 310,000 square kilometers (120,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average. The rate of ice extent decline for the month was also close to average, at 41,000 kilometers (16,000 square miles) per day. As a result, April 2010 fell well within one standard deviation of the mean for the month, and posted the highest April extent since 2001.

But you see this is a red herring. It turns out that of course, overall, ice area is going down.

However, the real losses are in mass. Which is a matter of volume and not area. But learning that would be too much for you. Spare me the dishonesty. You impress no one.

369 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:24pm

re: #366 WindUpBird

Ba-zing!

370 Bagua  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:21:34pm

re: #365 spare o'lake

Why yes, as a matter of fact they haven't been arriving at all since November, 2008. What can this mean?

Yikes, same here... this is disturbing, a deals a deal.

371 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:26pm

re: #348 spare o'lake

Fact: April, 2010 had the most sea ice cover since April, 2001.
I thought it was interesting...did you even know about it before I posted it? Why don't you thank me for posting current climate facts?
I didn't make it up, NSIDC saw fit to report it on their website.
I didn't claim it was earth-shattering, either.
I don't understand why it got your shorts in such a knot.
You respond like a vicious dog.

He responds like someone who's tired of your trolling, actually

372 brookly red  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:23:56pm

re: #370 Bagua

Yikes, same here... this is disturbing, a deals a deal.

jerks... I said gold in advance. If you can't negotiate a good deal get out of the biz.

373 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:26:39pm

re: #361 spare o'lake

I cannot be proven wrong because I only stated a fact. All the rest consists of the straw men and spinning on the part of the resident AGW nazis.

Spare, a half truth is a whole lie. You are being completely dishonest and I realy have no idea the act of lying and distorting the facts is so important to you.

Yes it is true that in april, there is more ice area than there was since april of 2001. The issue comes with the so what do we conclude from that fact part.

You have already said that you consider this anomalous. We have patiently tried to show you the science that proves that is false. You have yet to acknowledge it. Now, you are simply throwing a temper tanturm. Far from being a legitimate challenge to the science - or someone asking honest questions - or someone standing up to the "climate nazis" as you put it, you are simply being a pathetic windbag trying to defend an indefensible and stupid position while being too proud and ignorant himself to see how stupid what he is saying actually is.

So go on bleat on proud sheep.

The evil climate Nazis are suppressing your misrepresentation and dishonest posts with facts... poor poor Spare. Grow up and learn the science. Then you can talk with the grown ups.

374 Bagua  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:27:28pm

re: #372 brookly red

jerks... I said gold in advance. If you can't negotiate a good deal get out of the biz.

Gold is the only real currency.

375 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:31:02pm

re: #371 WindUpBird

Gay cucken oyfn yam.

376 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:33:25pm

re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote

Blah, blah, blah.
Ya humourless self-important preaching-to-the-choir dork.

377 windsagio  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:38:18pm

re: #376 spare o'lake


You're not even pretending now.

I'm presuming you know a flipout by someone else is the only thing that can save ya now.

378 spare o'lake  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:49:17pm

There was more ice cover in the arctic seas in April, 2010 than in any April in the last 10 years.
But far from this being in any way a positive or hopeful sign, this is actually terrible terrible news.
That is what people here told me.
For the record.

379 Jadespring  Tue, May 4, 2010 4:59:11pm

re: #378 spare o'lake

There was more ice cover in the arctic seas in April, 2010 than in any April in the last 10 years.
But far from this being in any way a positive or hopeful sign, this is actually terrible terrible news.
That is what people here told me.
For the record.

No, what people told you was that it's just not as positive or as hopeful a sign as you might wish it to be.

380 drcordell  Tue, May 4, 2010 5:15:40pm

I'd laugh at this hypocritical asshole if it weren't so awful. This guy has spent his entire life attacking gays all because of his own shame. How sad is that?

381 steve-b  Tue, May 4, 2010 5:30:19pm

If embarrassment at being out of step with civilized society won't work on these idiots, maybe the fear that everybody who listens to them spew their bullshit is thinking "yeah, right, we know why he's got a bug up his butt about gays, nudge-nudge-wink-wink" will do the trick.

382 steve-b  Tue, May 4, 2010 5:36:01pm

re: #7 LudwigVanQuixote

When I was in college, I used to be skeptical about the idea that the people who are the most angrily anti-gay are the ones who are angrily repressing themselves. That was years ago.

The more stories I hear like this, and the more folks I meet who are actually threatened by gay people, the more I believe that the idea must have some truth to it.

It seems to me that the mark of a straight guy, who actually is 100% straight is that gay people don't unnerve him one bit.

Yep. It's one thing for some straight people to be a bit squicked by stumbling upon sensationalized coverage of a Gay Pride parade or a bit of heavy-duty same-sex PDA. However, when somebody goes out of their way to make an issue of how much they're opposed to homosexuality (e.g. "Rent-Boy" Rekers), there's something more than that going on.

383 The Left  Tue, May 4, 2010 6:18:28pm

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(breath)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

384 The Left  Tue, May 4, 2010 6:24:08pm

re: #380 drcordell

I'd laugh at this hypocritical asshole if it weren't so awful. This guy has spent his entire life attacking gays all because of his own shame. How sad is that?

please! He's spenty his life PERSECUTING people for being gay, and contributing to a culture where people start to think it's justified to discriminate against gay people!

I have every sympathy for people who remain closeted, for people who struggle with their sexuality, for people who are in pain. I have NONE WHATSOEVER for a douchebag who has devoted his life to persecuting others-- and how do you know it's shame and selfloathing that makes someone like him be a hypocrite? Maybe it's just that he's a fuckwad who knew he could make himself a nice living by being a hypocritical douchebag.

Dante reserved the worst circle in hell for the betrayers. Fuck him and I wish there were a frozen lake to which he would be condemned.

385 BlackFedora  Tue, May 4, 2010 6:34:36pm

Hmmm....

What is it with hardcore religious social conservatives and being in sexually compromising situations?

I guess in a lot of cases its projection maybe? They hate the fact they like kinky stuff so they crusade against it and try to make it illegal? I dunno. Seems simplistic.

386 drcordell  Tue, May 4, 2010 7:39:52pm

re: #384 iceweasel

please! He's spenty his life PERSECUTING people for being gay, and contributing to a culture where people start to think it's justified to discriminate against gay people!

I have every sympathy for people who remain closeted, for people who struggle with their sexuality, for people who are in pain. I have NONE WHATSOEVER for a douchebag who has devoted his life to persecuting others-- and how do you know it's shame and selfloathing that makes someone like him be a hypocrite? Maybe it's just that he's a fuckwad who knew he could make himself a nice living by being a hypocritical douchebag.

Dante reserved the worst circle in hell for the betrayers. Fuck him and I wish there were a frozen lake to which he would be condemned.

I completely agree with you that there's a special place in hell for people of his kind. That is, if hell existed. That being said, I still find it more pathetic and sad than anything else.

387 The Left  Tue, May 4, 2010 7:43:36pm

re: #386 drcordell

I completely agree with you that there's a special place in hell for people of his kind. That is, if hell existed. That being said, I still find it more pathetic and sad than anything else.

I've felt sorry for every other closeted homophobe who has been busted.

This guy? Not so much:

George Rekers has a very long history in anti-gay politics. He has worked closely with Paul Cameron and was the brainchild behind Cameron’s moribund online “Journal.” He spoke as a so-called “expert witness” in support of Florida’s adoption ban, in which he also said that he would consider banning Native Americans from adopting because research shows that they are also at much higher risk of mental illness and substance abuse. He is an officer at the National Association for the Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), where he also serves on their Scientific Advisory Committee and as an associate editor of NARTH’s Journal of Human Sexuality. (NARTH, you may recall, has had quite a number of controversial figures connected with that organization. More recently, another member of their Scientific Advisory Committee, Arthur Goldberg, was found to have been a convicted Wall Street swindler. Goldberg has since resigned from NARTH.)

Rekers and Goldberg are also members of the “Pediatric Psychosocial Development Committee” of the fake pediatrics group, American College of Pediatricians (not to be confused the American Academy of Pediatrics, which boasts 60,000 pediatricians as members). Rekers has worked closely with Pat Robertson’s Regent University, and is a cofounder wtih James Dobson of the Family Research Council.

388 tradewind  Tue, May 4, 2010 9:03:57pm

re: #377 windsagio
Save him? Save him from what.... your mighty wrath?//
It's the internet, not Interpol.

389 aagcobb  Tue, May 4, 2010 9:43:58pm

re: #81 kreyagg

And I had figured that VA AG Ken Cuccinelli would be the next self hating conservative to get outed.

That would make a great "dead pool" type game. I want to draft Michael Savage-any guy with a moniker like that is bound to be packing some fudge.

390 Lidane  Wed, May 5, 2010 8:03:57am

re: #386 drcordell

I completely agree with you that there's a special place in hell for people of his kind. That is, if hell existed. That being said, I still find it more pathetic and sad than anything else.

I don't. I think it's poetic justice, and I hope that this asshole gets shunned by the very people he's surrounded himself with.

People like this Rekers jackass are the reason why kids like Constance McMillen are kept out of their prom, or, in her case, sent to a fake one instead. They're the reason why another lesbian teen, Ceara Sturgis, was cut out of her senior yearbook and erased from a list of graduating seniors, despite being in the National Honor Society and on the soccer team. They're the reason why so many gay and lesbian teens end up as suicides or with substance problems.

It's not pathetic and sad that he got caught. Considering what he and his ilk have wrought over the years, it's long overdue justice.

391 mommydoc  Thu, May 6, 2010 2:39:50am

Posting on a dead thread, but, living in Colorado Springs (home of Focus on the Family), this story brings back the memories from 2006 (can't believe it's been that long) of Pastor Ted Haggard.

Everyone fears in others what they fear most in themselves. It's just too bad they do so much damage to others' lives.


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