Sarah Palin Derp of the Day

Obama the pussy-footer
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DERPWith finger firmly on the right wing pulse, Sarah Palin shares her alleged thoughts on the decision not to release photos of Osama bin Laden’s corpse.

Show photo as warning to others seeking America’s destruction. No pussy-footing around, no politicking, no drama;it’s part of the mission

That makes total sense, you betcha! People who blow themselves up on airplanes are going to be scared out of their wits by a picture of a corpse. Why won’t Obama stop pussy-footing around and just show the photo of the terrorist mastermind he hunted down, killed, and dumped in the ocean, sans all this drama?

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1 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:47:17am

And the twitter for the win:

DanaHoule Dana Houle

RT @KagroX: I guess if I had been on TV missing five shots at an apparently deaf caribou, I might need proof that guns can hit stuff.

2 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:48:24am

Sarah: the Derp that keeps on Derping!

3 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:48:26am

Deep penetrating political analysis from Palin there. The same folks who have no problem sending kids to be suicide bombers, who carried out terror attacks around the world for years, are going to be warned off with a gory photo? After all, these are the same brutal thugs who have no problem broadcasting the murder of Daniel Pearl and others.

There are other rational reasons to consider the release - just as surely as there are those to not release the photo. This isn't one of them.

4 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:49:09am

Idiotic comment from a brain dead idiot.

5 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:49:32am

And you know as well as I do if he had released the photos, she'd be bitching at him for that. I wouldn't mind seeing the photos either but if she thinks that displaying the photos is going to make any difference to the terrorists, she's nuts. These people are willing to kill themselves for their cause as pointed out. They know what death looks like in the flesh.

6 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:49:38am

And I'd like to thank Stanley Sea for originally finding that twitter.

7 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:49:57am

Sarah the necrophiliac.

8 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:50:21am

Hey look, it's a reasonable Republican commenting on this:


Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the intelligence committee, earlier put out a statement opposing the release. He told Fox News he's using a simple test -- if the release of the photo would make a village elder in Afghanistan less cooperative and less likely to snitch to U.S. troops about potential attacks, then he's against it.

So shut up, Sarah. Lives are on the line.

9 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:52:34am

re: #8 Obdicut

This.

10 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:52:38am

re: #8 Obdicut

Hey look, it's a reasonable Republican commenting on this:

So shut up, Sarah. Lives are on the line.

He's obviously not a true conservative or member of real American. #Palin

11 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:56:06am

She just wanted to say pussy to the masses.

12 PhillyPretzel  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:57:03am

There are some photos of 0BL out there. One of my co-workers had one on his phone and was showing it to everyone.

13 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:57:23am

please allow me to be the first to be ot

freepers on huntsman

Silver spooned (by billionare dad) high school dropout... google it. This guy is pure politics and image. RINO supreme.

No way. This guy is to conservatives what Janet Reno is to a South Beach wet T-shirt contest.

An Obama appointee? No thanks.

Oh good grief another damn liberal posing as a Republican. No to him, no to Romney.

I’m convinced that 720Hawk [freeper poster who put up the post about huntsman] is a hit-and-run GOP troll.
All he does is post hit pieces against Sarah and threads promoting RINOs like Huntsman. He’s got a November 2008 sign-up date too.

So? The only people pushing for this guy are the Democrat tentacles in the Republican party..

This is turning into a major nightmare. We just may lose this election if folks like this are serious about running. I mean so far he, Gary Johnson and Fred Karger are announced candidates. Cain might have some traction if he announces. Romney, Huckster, and Trump are pure loser candidates......Michele Bachman is great but she really needs to announce soon. Sarah is our most possible win and she has not made up her mind yet. Come on Sarah or we are doomed!!!!! If we lose 2012 than we are a complete disaster as a party when we can’t even beat Obama.

Silver spooned (by billionare dad) high school dropout... google it.

I did google it and you are right. What a loser. Can’t even finish high school????? How embarrassing would that be during the debate. Even Obama could say, “Well I went to Harvard and some say that I may have not done that well but you could not even manage to finish high school.” That would be quite a disaster.

He get .05% in the primaries and will drop out after a couple weeks. He’s got the same appeal as hair lice.

14 Romantic Heretic  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:57:40am

re: #8 Obdicut

Not hers, which is one of the reasons she suffers from diarrhea of the mouth.

15 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:58:25am

re: #11 Stanley Sea

She just wanted to say pussy to the masses.

*wink*

Youbetcha!

16 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:59:25am

The serious news about Bin Laden has really hurt the already ailing Republicans. They've become so invested in silly conspiracy theories and reality show candidates that serious issues make them look foolish. The first Republican debate is tomorrow and nobody wants to participate....
Republican debate will feature depleted lineup

In the latest chapter in the sputtering start to the 2012 White House race, Republicans will hold their first candidate debate on Thursday with a depleted line-up without the party's most high-profile contenders.
....
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who has formed a committee to raise money and explore a possible run, is skipping the event. Four other potential candidates who score well in early opinion polls -- Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich -- have made no move to run.
...
Joining Pawlenty at the debate will be U.S. Representative Ron Paul, former Senator Rick Santorum, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson and former Godfather's Pizza executive Herman Cain.

17 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, May 4, 2011 11:59:57am

This women is stupid.

Thanks, that felt good!

18 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:00:03pm

re: #13 engineer dog

please allow me to be the first to be ot

freepers on huntsman

Silver spooned (by billionare dad) high school dropout... google it. This guy is pure politics and image. RINO supreme.

No way. This guy is to conservatives what Janet Reno is to a South Beach wet T-shirt contest.

An Obama appointee? No thanks.

Oh good grief another damn liberal posing as a Republican. No to him, no to Romney.

I’m convinced that 720Hawk [freeper poster who put up the post about huntsman] is a hit-and-run GOP troll.
All he does is post hit pieces against Sarah and threads promoting RINOs like Huntsman. He’s got a November 2008 sign-up date too.

So? The only people pushing for this guy are the Democrat tentacles in the Republican party..

This is turning into a major nightmare. We just may lose this election if folks like this are serious about running. I mean so far he, Gary Johnson and Fred Karger are announced candidates. Cain might have some traction if he announces. Romney, Huckster, and Trump are pure loser candidates...Michele Bachman is great but she really needs to announce soon. Sarah is our most possible win and she has not made up her mind yet. Come on Sarah or we are doomed!!! If we lose 2012 than we are a complete disaster as a party when we can’t even beat Obama.

Silver spooned (by billionare dad) high school dropout... google it.

I did google it and you are right. What a loser. Can’t even finish high school??? How embarrassing would that be during the debate. Even Obama could say, “Well I went to Harvard and some say that I may have not done that well but you could not even manage to finish high school.” That would be quite a disaster.

He get .05% in the primaries and will drop out after a couple weeks. He’s got the same appeal as hair lice.

Of course, the freeptards don't mention that Huntsman has a BA from Penn University in international politics and was successful in business on his own. If Huntsman was an Obama basher, they would care less about the high school drop out thing which while true neglects to mention he went back to school.

19 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:00:30pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

The serious news about Bin Laden has really hurt the already ailing Republicans. They've become so invested in silly conspiracy theories and reality show candidates that serious issues make them look foolish. The first Republican debate is tomorrow and nobody wants to participate...
Republican debate will feature depleted lineup

"First question, how do you feel knowing you won't be around for the last 2012 GOP debate?"

20 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:00:42pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

GOP candidates want as little exposure as possible. The more they talk, the more of their incredibly radicalized base they'll alienate as they attempt to court the middle.

21 Summer Seale  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:00:47pm

I think that this is the only picture I needed to see, thanks.

I also think that after the whole "show us the birth certificate" crap, "skeptics" should STFU for a bit and trust the President on this one.

22 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:01:13pm

She said 'pussy'...

23 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:02:09pm

re: #22 darthstar

She said 'pussy'...

SHE'S TALKING ABOUT HER CAT!

24 charlz  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:02:12pm

re: #20 Obdicut

GOP candidates want as little exposure as possible. The more they talk, the more of their incredibly radicalized base they'll alienate as they attempt to court the middle.

I believe that line-up includes all announced Repub presidential candidates but one.

25 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:02:13pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Joining Pawlenty at the debate will be U.S. Representative Ron Paul, former Senator Rick Santorum, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson and former Godfather's Pizza executive Herman Cain.

Ron Paul debating with fascist family values icon Rick "frothy anal lube" Santorum.

The chance for comedic Gold is 85%.

26 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:02:16pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

She just wanted to say pussy to the masses.

Better than saying masses to...

27 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:02:33pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

Of course, the freeptards don't mention that Huntsman has a BA from Penn University in international politics and was successful in business on his own. If Huntsman was an Obama basher, they would care less about the high school drop out thing which while true neglects to mention he went back to school.

One of the influential adults in my life when I was a teen was a man that, in the late 70's, grew his hair long and played in a band. Like Huntsman, he cut it off and served a mission.

He was a great teacher and a good father and husband. I think, though, that some part of him still wanted to rock out. (And I'll bet it sometimes did.)

28 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:02:59pm

re: #25 celticdragon

Ron Paul debating with fascist family values icon Rick "frothy anal lube" Santorum.

The chance for comedic Gold is 85%.

Can we get some guy and two robot puppets to sit in the front row?

29 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:03:06pm

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"First question, how do you feel knowing you won't be around for the last 2012 GOP debate?"

Heh. I'm trying to figure out what the republicans are going to do. They have no viable candidates and almost no hope of winning the election. I guess they'll just pick any token candidate willing to run but I don't think they're even going to try very hard.

30 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:03:58pm

She would have been a great VP! America's principal diplomat. Oh, yeah...McCain tried to do THAT to our country.

31 PhillyPretzel  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:04:01pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior
Penn? University of Pennsylvania? Is that the one?

32 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:04:11pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Heh. I'm trying to figure out what the republicans are going to do. They have no viable candidates and almost no hope of winning the election. I guess they'll just pick any token candidate willing to run but I don't think they're even going to try very hard.

"OK, we let McCain run last time. Who else do we have to give a chance to clear the boards?"

33 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:04:43pm

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

Penn? University of Pennsylvania? Is that the one?

My wife went to Penn.

34 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:04:59pm

re: #25 celticdragon

Ron Paul debating with fascist family values icon Rick "frothy anal lube" Santorum.

The chance for comedic Gold is 85%.

It will be a freakshow for sure but i don't know about the comedy potential. Trump and Palin are the real comedians of the pack.

35 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:05:06pm

Sarah Palin, making Biden seem not so bad since 2008.

36 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:05:26pm

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

Penn? University of Pennsylvania? Is that the one?

Yep, sorry, wasn't familiar with that acronym. It's a really good school as I recall.

37 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:06:01pm

re: #1 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the twitter for the win:

DanaHoule Dana Houle

RT @KagroX: I guess if I had been on TV missing five shots at an apparently deaf caribou, I might need proof that guns can hit stuff.

Aw, that's shooting fish in a barrel.

Palin and Trump...Republicans for President. Because why should Obama have to face a contested election in 2012?

38 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:06:11pm

Palin/Paul 2012 - When all you got is crazy, you go with crazy.

39 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:06:13pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"OK, we let McCain run last time. Who else do we have to give a chance to clear the boards?"

Yeah, they might try to push Mitt through the primaries just because it's his turn.

40 PhillyPretzel  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:06:18pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior
Yes it is. As a matter of fact there is a building with the Huntsman name on it.

41 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:06:39pm

re: #37 lostlakehiker

Aw, that's shooting fish in a barrel.

Palin and Trump...Republicans for President. Because why should Obama have to face a contested election in 2012?

The less time he spends campaigning the more he can focus on running the country!

42 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:06:47pm

re: #37 lostlakehiker

Aw, that's shooting fish in a barrel.

Palin and Trump...Republicans for President. Because why should Obama have to face a contested election in 2012?

Their campaign slogan - "You're fired! I quit!"

43 thatthatisis  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:07:00pm

Wait, Obama isn't going to release the photo? But I thought Leon Panetta already said we should. I guess, according to Geller, this means Panetta will have to overrule the president once again.

44 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:07:26pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Yeah, they might try to push Mitt through the primaries just because it's his turn.

I'm expecting a Mitt/Huck combo.

45 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:07:26pm

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Palin/Paul 2012 - When all you got is crazy, you go with crazy.

Paul/Paul 2012...why add to the gene pool?

46 Batman  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:07:26pm

I'm sure al Qaeda is aware he is dead. Bin Laden is not a gorgon. His dead body holds no magical powers.

47 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:07:37pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

It will be a freakshow for sure but i don't know about the comedy potential. Trump and Palin are the real comedians of the pack.

You know that the extreme libertarian wing going head to head with the pantry sniffing religious authoritarian wing of the GOP is going to be a popcorn fest...

48 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:08:48pm

meh.

"panty sniffing authoritarian wing."

49 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:09:11pm

re: #47 celticdragon

You know that the extreme libertarian wing going head to head with the pantry sniffing religious authoritarian wing of the GOP is going to be a popcorn fest...

Who sniffs pantries?

50 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:09:52pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who sniffs pantries?

Limbaugh?

51 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:10:18pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

Limbaugh?

I'm thinking of the medicine cabinet, sorry.

52 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:10:21pm

re: #46 nonsense

I'm sure al Qaeda is aware he is dead. Bin Laden is not a gorgon. His dead body holds no magical powers.

Now that would be righteous first person shooter game...

The Walking Dead...with zombie Bin Laden...

53 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:10:26pm

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm expecting a Mitt/Huck combo.

I don't see that. Just can't see Mitt teaming up with Huck after the devil brother comment Huck made.

54 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:10:27pm

Isn't"Huntsman" roughly translated into German "Jagermeister" ?

55 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:11:07pm

re: #54 EdDantes

Isn't"Huntsman" roughly translated into German "Jagermeister" ?

Haha, yeah, pretty much if my limited understanding of German is correct.

56 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:11:07pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who sniffs pantries?

My cat.

"I can haz tuna?"

57 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:11:11pm

re: #46 nonsense

I'm sure al Qaeda is aware he is dead. Bin Laden is not a gorgon. His dead body holds no magical powers.

I don't know if a shark ate his body and then swam near the leaking radioactivity of the Japanese Nuke plants America might end up facing its greatest foe yet.... Fin-Laden!

(Joke stolen from Daily Show)

58 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:11:59pm

re: #57 jamesfirecat

I don't know if a shark ate his body and then swam near the leaking radioactivity of the Japanese Nuke plants America might end up facing its greatest foe yet... Fin-Laden!

(Joke stolen from Daily Show)

That was Colbert, I thought. Fin Laden sounds scary though. A shark that bites you and wants to implement Shariah law. Just great.

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:12:04pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Heh. I'm trying to figure out what the republicans are going to do. They have no viable candidates and almost no hope of winning the election. I guess they'll just pick any token candidate willing to run but I don't think they're even going to try very hard.

A woman who writes for the WSJ basically said just that a while back. She feels the next class will be very strong, and basically, the Republicans should run a serviceable losing campaign, use it to challenge some of Obama's agenda, and put resources into getting ready for 2016.

60 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:12:18pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

I don't see that. Just can't see Mitt teaming up with Huck after the devil brother comment Huck made.

Strange bedfellows and all that.

61 celticdragon  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:12:57pm

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Strange bedfellows and all that.

Don;'mention that in front of Santorum...

62 thatthatisis  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:14:39pm

I know this is ot, but I saw this on dkos, and just had to share.

"Karen Santorum says the 2012 presidential race, in which her husband, Rick, is a likely Republican candidate, is "not just another political race. It’s about going on to the battlefield and defending God’s truth in the world." [...]

She says the couple has "prayed a lot about the decision" and the former senator's decision--apparently she's referring to his forming a presidential exploratory committee--"is what God wants."

Did God also suggest he wear a diaper with a prostitute? Just curious.

63 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:15:40pm

I think I may hate SAntorum more than I do Palin honestly. Palin is a huge so-con too but she doesn't obsess about telling gays they should have no rights like Rick does. There was a page from this morning where Santorum said to gay couples who want to adopt they had no right to do so. What a a hateful prick that guy is. I have a cousin who with his now husband has children and quite a few gay friends. Who is Rick Santorum to tell these people they shouldn't have kids?

64 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:15:43pm

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Strange bedfellows and all that.

I don't think Huckabee would.

65 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:16:02pm

re: #61 celticdragon

Don;'mention that in front of Santorum...

Bryan Fischer would go right off.

66 funky chicken  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:16:08pm

Yeah, and burn a couple of Korans at the same time. We're all big boys and girls, so we shouldn't worry about what some silly Islamists will do in response.

//
sigh

67 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:16:19pm

re: #62 thatthatisis

I know this is ot, but I saw this on dkos, and just had to share.

"Karen Santorum says the 2012 presidential race, in which her husband, Rick, is a likely Republican candidate, is "not just another political race. It’s about going on to the battlefield and defending God’s truth in the world." [...]

She says the couple has "prayed a lot about the decision" and the former senator's decision--apparently she's referring to his forming a presidential exploratory committee--"is what God wants."

Did God also suggest he wear a diaper with a prostitute? Just curious.

That was David Vitter actually last time I checked.

69 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:16:33pm

re: #62 thatthatisis

I know this is ot, but I saw this on dkos, and just had to share.

"Karen Santorum says the 2012 presidential race, in which her husband, Rick, is a likely Republican candidate, is "not just another political race. It’s about going on to the battlefield and defending God’s truth in the world." [...]

She says the couple has "prayed a lot about the decision" and the former senator's decision--apparently she's referring to his forming a presidential exploratory committee--"is what God wants."

Did God also suggest he wear a diaper with a prostitute? Just curious.

diaper with prositute? I thought that was David Vitter. No knowledge of Santorum having any affairs not that it would shock me but I think you're thinking of David Vitter.

70 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:16:42pm

re: #64 EmmmieG

I don't think Huckabee would.

Eh, what do I know? I was expecting McCain to pick Romney in 08.

71 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:17:21pm

re: #68 Alouette

Michael Savage has frothing, screaming meltdown after caller incorrectly quotes Scripture.

As opposed to the frothing, screaming meltdown planned for after the first break.

72 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:17:28pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

A woman who writes for the WSJ basically said just that a while back. She feels the next class will be very strong, and basically, the Republicans should run a serviceable losing campaign, use it to challenge some of Obama's agenda, and put resources into getting ready for 2016.

I'm not sure what other alternative they might have. It's probably their only choice.

73 funky chicken  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:17:55pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I think I may hate SAntorum more than I do Palin honestly. Palin is a huge so-con too but she doesn't obsess about telling gays they should have no rights like Rick does. There was a page from this morning where Santorum said to gay couples who want to adopt they had no right to do so. What a a hateful prick that guy is. I have a cousin who with his now husband has children and quite a few gay friends. Who is Rick Santorum to tell these people they shouldn't have kids?

I don't hate either one, but Santorum is repulsive on so many levels. Palin is just kind of a clown.

74 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:19:08pm

re: #71 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

As opposed to the frothing, screaming meltdown planned for after the first break.

It must have been even more extreme than his usual everyday frothing, screaming meltdowns, if even Israel National News (the Israeli version of Fox) can notice it.

75 Caoimhe  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:19:29pm

You know, if Osama bin Laden is ZOMG REALLY ALIVE, all he has to do is prove it (by releasing a tape or something) in order to totally discredit and humiliate the president and the U.S.

Which is why the whole "bin Laden's death is a hoax!" thing is stupid.

76 thatthatisis  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:19:38pm

re: #67 jamesfirecat

re: #69 HappyWarrior

oh, you're both absolutely right. I got my right wing fundamentalist zealots confused. Santorum is the one that God cautioned to say we should avoid man on dog sex. Have I got it right this time?

77 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:20:20pm

re: #75 Caoimhe

You know, if Osama bin Laden is ZOMG REALLY ALIVE, all he has to do is prove it (by releasing a tape or something) in order to totally discredit and humiliate the president and the U.S.

Which is why the whole "bin Laden's death is a hoax!" thing is stupid.

But he's in on it too see, Bin Laden likes Obama and wants to make him look good. (Alex Jones mode)

78 funky chicken  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:20:58pm

re: #62 thatthatisis

God needs Rick Santorum to defend him. Can these people be any more delusional?

Why would you worship a dude who needs you to spend years and millions of (other people's) money to "defend" him anyway?

79 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:21:33pm

Speaking of photoshopping, I have that professional re-touching ad up above, and I'm trying to decide what you would need it for?

Because your children are insufficiently attractive?
For online dating where you plan on never actually meeting the person so they aren't disappointed when you don't look like that?
So you can have a picture of a person who looks like you wished you looked hanging on the wall?

It probably doesn't help that I just listened to TLC's Unpretty.

80 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:21:49pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

She nailed it. My party is conceding 2012. I have no pick at this time in the Repub primaries.

81 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:21:52pm

re: #76 thatthatisis

re: #69 HappyWarrior

oh, you're both absolutely right. I got my right wing fundamentalist zealots confused. Santorum is the one that God cautioned to say we should avoid man on dog sex. Have I got it right this time?

Yep, that was him. I have to admit I get a little emotional about LGBT rights because having Asperger's, I know what it's like ot be bullied because of a superficial difference. Plus I know how awesome my friends and family who just happen to be gay are.

82 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:22:36pm

re: #78 funky chicken

God needs Rick Santorum to defend him. Can these people be any more delusional?

Why would you worship a dude who needs you to spend years and millions of (other people's) money to "defend" him anyway?

I would expect an omnipotent, omnipresent entity to be a little more robust.

83 leftynyc  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:23:25pm

re: #62 thatthatisis

I know this is ot, but I saw this on dkos, and just had to share.

"Karen Santorum says the 2012 presidential race, in which her husband, Rick, is a likely Republican candidate, is "not just another political race. It’s about going on to the battlefield and defending God’s truth in the world." [...]

She says the couple has "prayed a lot about the decision" and the former senator's decision--apparently she's referring to his forming a presidential exploratory committee--"is what God wants."

Did God also suggest he wear a diaper with a prostitute? Just curious.

I'm pretty sure that was David Vitter from LA that likes the hookers and diapers.

84 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:24:01pm

re: #83 leftynyc

I'm pretty sure that was David Vitter from LA that likes the hookers and diapers.

Hey, who doesn't like hookers?

85 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:24:46pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I have Asperger's too. :)

86 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:25:40pm

re: #85 EdDantes

I have Asperger's too. :)

I think there's a few of us here. Real cool to see.

87 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:26:30pm

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Palin/Paul 2012 - When all you got is crazy, you go with crazy.

never go full retard.

88 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:26:41pm

Oh, yeah, and

May the 4th be with you all.

(My kids had to tell me about this one.)

89 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:27:26pm

romney - insurance infomercial spokesman

jeb bush - wimpy high school principle

palin - bad girl character on gilligan's island with a whiny voice who tries to do something nasty to ginger

huckabee - used to play a preachy sheriff on teevee but the character was too boring and was dropped

hunstman - creepy ceo who you suspect is the villain in this episode because he is too smooth to be good

trump - comic relief

gingrich - annoying peripheral character whose role in the episode is to make you feel really good when they get their comeuppance

bachmann - remember mrs kravitz on bewitched?

90 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:27:41pm

re: #87 zora

never go full retard.

"Please describe your welfare program."

"FRANKS AND BEANS!"

91 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:27:51pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

diaper with prositute? I thought that was David Vitter. No knowledge of Santorum having any affairs not that it would shock me but I think you're thinking of David Vitter.

Was it Santorum and his wife who brought their stillborn baby home from the hospital to hold it, introduce it to their other children and sleep with it in their bed?

92 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:28:16pm

re: #91 allegro

Was it Santorum and his wife who brought their stillborn baby home from the hospital to hold it, introduce it to their other children and sleep with it in their bed?

YEah

93 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:28:16pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

he wants to be president really bad. he'll suck it up if need be.

94 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:29:30pm

re: #62 thatthatisis

you're thinking of vitter.

95 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:30:06pm

re: #91 allegro

Was it Santorum and his wife who brought their stillborn baby home from the hospital to hold it, introduce it to their other children and sleep with it in their bed?

Memories of Alice Cooper: "Dead babies don't knock things off of shelves..."

(sorry, Sick Humor Mode is kicked in full in light of current GOp discussion)

96 makeitstop  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:31:46pm

re: #91 allegro

Was it Santorum and his wife who brought their stillborn baby home from the hospital to hold it, introduce it to their other children and sleep with it in their bed?

That's the guy. That is still one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard in my life.

97 Linden Arden  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:33:11pm

Remember the uproar when the NY Times released the Abu Grahib photos?

"The NY Slimes are trying to get US soldiers killed!" = they said way back then in another time.

98 PhillyPretzel  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:33:57pm

re: #97 Linden Arden
Yes. I remember.

99 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:34:18pm

re: #96 makeitstop

That's the guy. That is still one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard in my life.

Lord yes. I know people gotta do what they gotta do to deal with grief but yikes, this is... disturbing. It's like my friend who had to have her kitty put down and then asked me if I wanted to hold the dead cat (that I did love very much - she was a totally cool kitty in life) wrapped in a plastic bag to say goodbye. What is the diplomatic way of saying "Fuck no! Are you kidding?"

100 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:35:30pm

If you're on Twitter, please do me a favor and "Block and report as spam" this impersonator:

[Link: twitter.com...]

101 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:35:56pm

the photo non release appears to have given the wingnuts the infinitesmal shadow of a issue that they needed to piss full time on the administration's accomplishment

102 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:36:04pm

O.T.
This is the 41st anniversary of Kent State.

103 funky chicken  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:36:12pm

re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would expect an omnipotent, omnipresent entity to be a little more robust.

Precisely.

104 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:36:31pm

Muammar Gaddafi facing war crimes arrest warrant

105 makeitstop  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:37:58pm

re: #101 engineer dog

the photo non release appears to have given the wingnuts the infinitesmal shadow of a issue that they needed to piss full time on the administration's accomplishment

They would have gotten around to pissing on it no matter what anyone did or didn't do.

It's what they do.

106 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:37:59pm

re: #100 Charles

Jeez, some people are just way too damn pathetic.

107 aagcobb  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:38:08pm

I wish that I could be that confident that Obama will win reelection, but if unemployment is still around 8% and gas is $5/gallon, I think Romney, Daniels, Pawlenty or Huntsman could win. Remember, everyone thought GHWB was a shoo-in in '92 after the Gulf War.

108 funky chicken  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:38:33pm

re: #89 engineer dog

I don't think that's fair to Huntsman, but I admit I don't know a lot about him.

He's got zero chance, of course. He was "Obamao's" ambassador to China for chrissakes.///

109 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:38:34pm

Does this idiot ever stop having an opinion?

Talk about a backseat driver.

Speaking of idiot I'm no longer just sorry for having voted for her. I can honestly say that I feel like an idiot for having voted for McCain/Palin regardless if they lost.

110 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:39:24pm

re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would expect an omnipotent, omnipresent entity to be a little more robust.

Albert Einstein: "God does not play dice with the Universe "
Neils Bohr: " Stop telling God what to do"

111 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:39:42pm

re: #108 funky chicken

I don't think that's fair to Huntsman, but I admit I don't know a lot about him.

He's got zero chance, of course. He was "Obamao's" ambassador to China for chrissakes.///

And hes' not a huge so-con. That will kill him in Iowa and other early states. But yeah what will ultimately do him is the fact he served as ambassador to China.

112 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:40:34pm

re: #88 EmmmieG

Oh, yeah, and

May the 4th be with you all.

(My kids had to tell me about this one.)

And also with you.

113 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:40:55pm

re: #107 aagcobb

Remember, everyone thought GHWB was a shoo-in in '92 after the Gulf War.

Remember also that GHWB was running against a bright, charismatic, capable opponent as well. Who fits that description from among the Reps who could win a primary?

114 Big Steve  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:41:02pm

re: #102 EdDantes

O.T.
This is the 41st anniversary of Kent State.

Thanks for remembering. I was in 8th grade then and my mother was getting her masters degree at Kent which was about a half hour from where we lived. When the shooting had occured, my father got me out of school and we drove down to Kent. We had to park about 5 miles away and walk to the campus to retrieve her.

115 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:41:14pm

re: #100 Charles

Done.

116 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:41:43pm

re: #107 aagcobb

I wish that I could be that confident that Obama will win reelection, but if unemployment is still around 8% and gas is $5/gallon, I think Romney, Daniels, Pawlenty or Huntsman could win. Remember, everyone thought GHWB was a shoo-in in '92 after the Gulf War.

Luckily Romney and Huntsman seem to have next to no chance of winning the primaries, and I have no clue who Daniels is so I think that by default rules him out also....

Please keep in mind part of the reason GHWB lost was that we had a third party candidate running who took much of his support.

There are no signs of any major far left win third party candidate showing up to drain votes from Obama...

117 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:42:17pm

re: #100 Charles

If you're on Twitter, please do me a favor and "Block and report as spam" this impersonator:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Done. I see the moron brigade is still at it.

118 aagcobb  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:42:34pm

re: #113 allegro

Nobody, but if the economy stinks, a boring governor might look like a good option to a lot of people.

119 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:42:47pm

re: #108 funky chicken

I don't think that's fair to Huntsman, but I admit I don't know a lot about him.

He's got zero chance, of course. He was "Obamao's" ambassador to China for chrissakes.///

i don't have anything against him, he seems very intelligent and reasonable, but i saw him on teevee making a speech where he showed off his excellent command of mandarin, and it seemed to me that he had exactly the wrong mouthfeel to make a presidential candidate that would appeal to the republican base

120 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:42:54pm

re: #68 Alouette

Caller didn't incorrectly quote scripture at all, Savage just dismissed it!

121 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:43:02pm

re: #102 EdDantes

O.T.
This is the 41st anniversary of Kent State.

I heard Neil Young this morning talking about how he wrote his song "Ohio"...he said he saw the news, sat down and wrote the song that day, then sang it to Crosby, who got them on a plane to LA where they recorded it over night and Atlantic Records released it the next day - no test pressings or pre-marketing - they just sent it out to the radio stations as fast as they could...24 hours start to finish, and within a couple of days it was all over the airwaves.

122 ProGunLiberal  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:43:45pm

re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great to hear. Was in class.

123 recusancy  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:44:16pm

"We don't need to spike the football" -President Obama

124 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:44:19pm

re: #100 Charles

If you're on Twitter, please do me a favor and "Block and report as spam" this impersonator:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Twitter be over capacity & shit right now.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:45:10pm

re: #99 allegro

Lord yes. I know people gotta do what they gotta do to deal with grief but yikes, this is... disturbing. It's like my friend who had to have her kitty put down and then asked me if I wanted to hold the dead cat (that I did love very much - she was a totally cool kitty in life) wrapped in a plastic bag to say goodbye. What is the diplomatic way of saying "Fuck no! Are you kidding?"

"I'd rather remember her as she was."

126 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:45:30pm

re: #107 aagcobb

Remember, everyone thought GHWB was a shoo-in in '92 after the Gulf War.

My Step-Dad sure did, he bet me $100 at 3:1 odds that Bush Sr. would win. I felt kind of bad taking advantage of him that way, but I really needed the money.

127 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:45:35pm

re: #123 recusancy

"We don't need to spike the football" -President Obama


The real housewife of Wasilla disagrees.

128 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:45:44pm

re: #120 ElCapitanAmerica

Caller didn't incorrectly quote scripture at all, Savage just dismissed it!

Caller incorrectly interpreted Scripture, but Savage just went apeshit, I mean beyond his regular everyday apeshittery.

129 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:45:55pm

re: #124 darthstar

Twitter be over capacity & shit right now.


What?
Sorry...Ebonic filter/translator is burnt slap up!

130 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:46:12pm

re: #123 recusancy

"We don't need to spike the football" -President Obama

OBAMA HATES FOOTBALL!

131 Big Steve  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:46:32pm

re: #121 darthstar

I heard Neil Young this morning talking about how he wrote his song "Ohio"...he said he saw the news, sat down and wrote the song that day, then sang it to Crosby, who got them on a plane to LA where they recorded it over night and Atlantic Records released it the next day - no test pressings or pre-marketing - they just sent it out to the radio stations as fast as they could...24 hours start to finish, and within a couple of days it was all over the airwaves.


Well Neil must be getting senile then because the song was released in June, 1970

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:46:38pm

re: #128 Alouette

Caller incorrectly interpreted Scripture, but Savage just went apeshit, I mean beyond his regular everyday apeshittery.

That's because he doesn't know enough to offer another interpretation, so he goes for the usual obnoxiousness.

133 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:46:43pm

re: #123 recusancy

"We don't need to spike the football" -President Obama

They want him to spike OBL's head...

134 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:46:55pm

re: #127 darthstar

The real housewife of Wasilla disagrees.

No, she wants an end zone dance.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:46:59pm

re: #128 Alouette

Caller incorrectly interpreted Scripture, but Savage just went apeshit, I mean beyond his regular everyday apeshittery.

Ranting about Rabbi Akiva seemed particularly batty.

136 ProGunLiberal  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:47:24pm

Supposedly, there is now a $50 million dollar reward for Qaddafi right now.

137 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:07pm

re: #129 reloadingisnotahobby

What?
Sorry...Ebonic filter/translator is burnt slap up!

I love the 'xxx & shit' phrasing...not used to mock ebonics. Like when I take my wife shopping...she likes "Linens & shit"...

138 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:17pm

re: #136 ProLifeLiberal

Supposedly, there is now a $50 million dollar reward for Qaddafi right now.

Now that they don't need it for bin Laden. It's just lying around - might as well put it to good use.

139 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:28pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

No, she wants an end zone dance.

Just so she has something to criticize.

140 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:35pm

Taliban spokesthug claims that the refusal to release OBL photo is proof he isn't dead.

Right. How exactly are you going to contact him then? Seance? Psychic friends network? Because like the dead parrot or Gen. Franco, he's still dead. Pushing daisies. Shark bait. Toast. Fin. Done. Hasta la pasta.

141 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:45pm

re: #137 darthstar

I love the 'xxx & shit' phrasing...not used to mock ebonics. Like when I take my wife shopping...she likes "Linens & shit"...

Everybody got AIDS en shit....

142 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:51pm

re: #114 Big Steve

I was 15 at the time and lived in a small town near Springfield, Ohio. Stephen Stills captured the time in the song, " For What It's Worth."

143 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:48:57pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

No, she wants an end zone dance.

Youtube Video
144 aagcobb  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:50:07pm

re: #116 jamesfirecat

Mitch Daniels, Governor of Indiana, who just shored up his right flank by barring medicare from paying for medical services provided by Planned Parenthood. Trump isn't going to run, and a solid governor is just the sort of person the GOP usually nominates.

145 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:50:20pm

re: #137 darthstar

I love the 'xxx & shit' phrasing...not used to mock ebonics. Like when I take my wife shopping...she likes "Linens & shit"...

What is the Ebonics trnaslation of "Toys R Us"?

-We Be Toys and Shit!

146 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:50:24pm

re: #137 darthstar

I love the 'xxx & shit' phrasing...not used to mock ebonics. Like when I take my wife shopping...she likes "Linens & shit"...

Well, Linens' n' Things did go bankrupt - so she was at least accurate. /

147 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:50:47pm

re: #121 darthstar

There were giants in those days.

148 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:50:48pm

re: #140 lawhawk

Taliban spokesthug claims that the refusal to release OBL photo is proof he isn't dead.

Right. How exactly are you going to contact him then? Seance? Psychic friends network? Because like the dead parrot or Gen. Franco, he's still dead. Pushing daisies. Shark bait. Toast. Fin. Done. Hasta la pasta.

[Video]


"And that is why he is now banned from the dance floor." Haha

149 justaminute  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:51:15pm

On the site Navy Moms, the moms and others have been complaining that they haven't received emails the past 3 weeks and now they know why. One said that her birthday was Sunday and she got an email from her son that just said "Happy Birthday" love ( her sons name.) They started to hear from their kids yesterday but they said they cannot answer any questions about Bin Ladin other than yes, it happened and burial did happened like reported and filmed. Blackout occurred 3 weeks ago. Already TMZ and other news agencies are bothering the parents. But parents are reminded that "loose lips sinks ships" and you can get your kid into trouble if you respond to any inquires.

150 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:51:37pm

Based on some of the descriptions of the OBL photo that have been coming out, I wonder which media (TV news, newspapers, magazines, etc) would have actually published it.

[Link: whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com...]

Photos of OBLs body at a hangar after he was brought back to Afghanistan. This is the most recognizable with a clear picture of his face. The picture is gruesome because he has a massive open head wound across both eyes. It’s very bloody and gory.

& from FOX:

Fox News has learned that the image shows a large, open gunshot wound on bin Laden's forehead, revealing brain matter. A senior U.S. official who has had access to the images said one of bin Laden's eyes is open while the other is "completely gone."

I suppose they could have covered the top half of his face/head with a black bar, or perhaps blurred most of the image out, but once you're obscuring so much he's unrecognizable, what's really the point?

151 ProGunLiberal  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:52:03pm

re: #138 allegro

That's also enough money to go around. A group of people can turn in the bastard and split the money. Makes getting him easier.

We need to hijack the airwaves of Tripoli and broadcast this out. That could end his rule.

152 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:53:20pm

re: #146 lawhawk

Well, Linens' n' Things did go bankrupt - so she was at least accurate. /

there's still Bloodbath & Beyond.

153 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:53:36pm

re: #150 simoom

Based on some of the descriptions of the OBL photo that have been coming out, I wonder which media (TV news, newspapers, magazines, etc) would have actually published it.

[Link: whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com...]

& from FOX:

I suppose they could have covered the top half of his face/head with a black bar, or perhaps blurred most of the image out, but once you're obscuring so much he's unrecognizable, what's really the point?

all of them.

154 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:53:44pm

Latest Tweetdeck block list for LGF members:

1389, chenzhen, bluecollartodd, killgore_trout, boman5x, lizardroid, gus_812, gus_903, 218822, mistercaps, obdicut, lgf_stpancake, phroya, ludwigvanquxote, serr8d, joest73, slinkybewmont, chuckles3000, diaryofdaedalus, blogmocracy, mr caps, lizardstomp, meaghanorasfjjb, shitdorksays, lgf_charles

155 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:54:08pm

re: #152 darthstar

there's still Bloodbath & Beyond.

Oh man that's the truth. I've never gotten outa there for less than $300.

156 Big Steve  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:54:24pm

Is that pic of UBL's corpse that got linked to here yesterday been determined to be fake or not?

157 aagcobb  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:54:53pm

re: #151 ProLifeLiberal

I want Khadafy worrying not only that Seals might tap him in the middle of the night, but that anyone around him might betray him for the money.

158 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:54:53pm

re: #149 justaminute

Note too that the operational security on DEVGRU/JSOG/Seal Team missions is meant not only to protect the mission members, but their families from potential reprisals.

159 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:55:03pm

re: #152 darthstar

there's still Bloodbath & Beyond.

There was a "bed & bath" store in Orange County, CA, called "Come & Go".

Utterly tacky. And funny. And memorable.

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:55:09pm

re: #152 darthstar

there's still Bloodbath & Beyond.

I liked the comedy where the guy gets the time-stopping TV remote from the 'Beyond' section of 'BB&B'.

161 darthstar  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:55:10pm

re: #156 Big Steve

Is that pic of UBL's corpse that got linked to here yesterday been determined to be fake or not?

fake

162 Achilles Tang  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:55:33pm

I really don't understand why this type of information is released. Terrorist know this in principle, but probably most would think it is too difficult to do to be a real risk.

Now they won't think so.

I think it's stupid, stupid, stupid.

Obama aides had cell phones tapped

163 ProGunLiberal  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:55:45pm

re: #157 aagcobb

Yep! Best way to do it is broadcasting that through out Tripoli.

We can hijack a signal, right?

164 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:55:51pm

re: #154 Gus 802

I was wondering about the guses - something didn't seem quite right. Thanks for verifying.

165 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:56:51pm

re: #164 lawhawk

I was wondering about the guses - something didn't seem quite right. Thanks for verifying.

Yeah. Those are my sad sack imitators. I think they spend all day Tweeting.

166 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:57:49pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Yeah. Those are my sad sack imitators. I think they spend all day Tweeting.

I finally closed the LGF hashtag because even the blocked show up if they're using it.

167 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 12:59:34pm

re: #166 wrenchwench

I finally closed the LGF hashtag because even the blocked show up if they're using it.

Yep. This would be year 3 for the main idiot to be holding his crazed grudge. You can't fight that kind of pathological intensity.

169 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:00:29pm

re: #166 wrenchwench

I finally closed the LGF hashtag because even the blocked show up if they're using it.

Tweetdeck's Global Filter could put a stop to that. Just add the username to the list. Bam. Never see them again.

170 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:00:50pm

re: #154 Gus 802

Latest Tweetdeck block list for LGF members:

1389, chenzhen, bluecollartodd, killgore_trout, boman5x, lizardroid, gus_812, gus_903, 218822, mistercaps, obdicut, lgf_stpancake, phroya, ludwigvanquxote, serr8d, joest73, slinkybewmont, chuckles3000, diaryofdaedalus, blogmocracy, mr caps, lizardstomp, meaghanorasfjjb, shitdorksays, lgf_charles

does anybody here remember taki 183, the original graffiti tagger?

171 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:02:01pm

re: #170 engineer dog

does anybody here remember taki 183, the original graffiti tagger?

Not me.

172 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:02:54pm

re: #162 Naso Tang

I really don't understand why this type of information is released. Terrorist know this in principle, but probably most would think it is too difficult to do to be a real risk.

Now they won't think so.

I think it's stupid, stupid, stupid.

Obama aides had cell phones tapped

Small typo in that last line :o.

As to the rest, you're right, though perhaps all this leaking is an inevitable consequence of the recent national security briefings to congress vs the operational details previously being kept within a much smaller circle (and only to 6 members of congress).

173 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:03:29pm

re: #169 Charles

Tweetdeck's Global Filter could put a stop to that. Just add the username to the list. Bam. Never see them again.

I think I have them in the filter, and still see them when they use the hashtag. I might have missed one, because now that you mention it, I don't see most of what's on Gus's list. I'll go fix that last one.

174 freetoken  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:04:12pm

Pretty much on topic...

Apparently scientists are using too many syllables:


Climate scientists told to 'stop speaking in code'

Scientists at a major conference on Arctic warming were told Wednesday to use plain language to explain the dramatic melt in the region to a world reluctant to take action against climate change.

An authoritative report released at the meeting of nearly 400 scientists in Copenhagen showed melting ice in the Arctic could help raise global sea levels by as much as 5 feet this century, much higher than earlier projections.

James White, of the University of Colorado at Boulder, told fellow researchers to use simple words and focus on the big picture when describing their research to a wider audience. Focusing too much on details could blur the basic science, he said: "If you put more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, it will get warmer."

Prominent U.S. climate scientist Robert Corell said researchers must try to reach out to all parts of society to spread awareness of the global implications of the Arctic melt.

"Stop speaking in code. Rather than 'anthropogenic,' you could say 'human caused,'" Corell said.

[...]

175 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:05:00pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

They've been busily proving that they're not stalkers by registering one impersonator account after another.

176 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:05:23pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

I think I have them in the filter, and still see them when they use the hashtag. I might have missed one, because now that you mention it, I don't see most of what's on Gus's list. I'll go fix that last one.

On Tweetdeck you have to add the list to:

Settings
Global Filter
From People

The list is entered int the "From People" field.

177 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:05:31pm

re: #174 freetoken

Pretty much on topic...

Apparently scientists are using too many syllables:

Climate scientists told to 'stop speaking in code'

Wow, that's kind of sad, but also true.

178 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:05:35pm

re: #170 engineer dog

Vaguely. He goes back to the '70's, do he not?

179 Ericus58  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:06:06pm

re: #97 Linden Arden

Remember the uproar when the NY Times released the Abu Grahib photos?

"The NY Slimes are trying to get US soldiers killed!" = they said way back then in another time.

Great Point.
Flaming passions for the sake of beating one's chest is just moronic.

Might I also ask however, for the sake of balance -
are there now people who were all for the release of the Abu Grahib photo's now against OBL's photo's being released.

Not trying to play MBF, serious thought.

180 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:07:04pm

re: #175 Charles

They've been busily proving that they're not stalkers by registering one impersonator account after another.

It's a special kind of mental illness combined with total lack of imagination and intelligence.

181 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:07:12pm

re: #175 Charles

They've been busily proving that they're not stalkers by registering one impersonator account after another.

That made me laugh. Yeah. They keep screaming "we're not stalkers" while spending their entire waking day either registering fake accounts at Twitter; monitoring this site; analyzing this site; monitoring our personal lives as we reveal it here; and blogging our every word.

Yep. They're not stalkers. Right.

182 Achilles Tang  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:07:23pm

re: #172 simoom

Damn, I keep seeing Obama Osama and my circuits have fused.

My sincere apologies Mr. President.

183 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:07:55pm

re: #179 Ericus58

Great Point.
Flaming passions for the sake of beating one's chest is just moronic.

Might I also ask however, for the sake of balance -
are there now people who were all for the release of the Abu Grahib photo's now against OBL's photo's being released.

Not trying to play MBF, serious thought.

Probably there are, yes.

184 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:08:49pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

It's a special kind of mental illness combined with total lack of imagination and intelligence.


Obsessive behavior, the psychological equivalent of a bee trying to fly through a pane of glass...

185 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:08:57pm

re: #178 EdDantes

Vaguely. He goes back to the '70's, do he not?

yeah - back about i guess 1970 or so, his spray paint tag appeared on every subway stop in nyc. the whole phenomenon took off from there...

186 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:08:58pm

re: #182 Naso Tang

Damn, I keep seeing Obama Osama and my circuits have fused.

My sincere apologies Mr. President.

The names are too close, and they're both in the news and linked. It's hard. I'm using "Bin Laden" and "the President" as much as I can. Sooner or later, I'm gonna slip up, though.

187 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:09:26pm

re: #186 SanFranciscoZionist

The names are too close, and they're both in the news and linked. It's hard. I'm using "Bin Laden" and "the President" as much as I can. Sooner or later, I'm gonna slip up, though.


I done did that here already...

188 PhillyPretzel  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:09:57pm

re: #186 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes the spellings are close. Thankfully two very different people.

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:10:01pm

re: #184 ralphieboy

Obsessive behavior, the psychological equivalent of a bee trying to fly through a pane of glass...

The bee is genuinely confused by the glass' behavior, though. If you could explain it, the bee would go around.

The stalkers would denounce the glass and keep slamming into it.

190 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:11:26pm

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

The bee is genuinely confused by the glass' behavior, though. If you could explain it, the bee would go around.

The stalkers would denounce the glass and keep slamming into it.

Either that or the stalkers would simply imitate the glass and pretend they're getting through it.

//

191 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:11:48pm

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

The bee is genuinely confused by the glass' behavior, though. If you could explain it, the bee would go around.

The stalkers would denounce the glass and keep slamming into it.


A bee's brain is not equipped to deal with a transparent solid. These guys brains are not equpped to deal with the consequences of their actions

192 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:12:24pm

re: #174 freetoken

Pretty much on topic...

Apparently scientists are using too many syllables:

Climate scientists told to 'stop speaking in code'

your modern "cars" and "cellphones" confuse and frighten me - but what do i know, i'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer

193 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:12:33pm

re: #182 Naso Tang

Damn, I keep seeing Obama Osama and my circuits have fused.

My sincere apologies Mr. President.

My wife called me at work and I heard, " Obama is dead!" I said, "What!" She said, "Osama is dead!" Great relief.

194 freetoken  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:15:26pm

Neat science link of the day:

Familiar yet alien ancient views of Earth

Which discusses some of the latest images from Visible Paleo-Earth.

195 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:16:01pm

re: #100 Charles

Is there any way to complain to Twitter that this person is using your name, website name & photograph?

196 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:19:01pm

re: #195 Floral Giraffe

Is there any way to complain to Twitter that this person is using your name, website name & photograph?

You can try but they have some strange parody rules.

The stalkers will be there until Thanksgiving. Of 2015.

Sad stalkers are sad. //

197 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:20:13pm

Reuters is going ahead and publishing their own set of gory post-raid photos;

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

See if that satiates the ghouls a bit.

198 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:22:38pm

Wow the reuters servers are overloaded!

199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:23:19pm

New line of attack seen on Yahoo with regard to releasing/not releasing the photos:

Sickening how the lefties were all gung-ho on releasing the photos of a few of our military doing bad things to some prisoners. No matter that it put our military in danger at a time of war. Now they defend the Aggitator In Chief because he doesn't want to anger his Mooslim brothers. What a POS!!

200 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:25:04pm

re: #197 ElCapitanAmerica

Nope. It wont. Never will.

201 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:25:20pm

And another *facepalm*

How ironic of Obama - he plans a release of 2000+ so-called detainee abuse photos, rescinds a ban on US military coffin pictures, in the name of "transparency"....but yet our own personal and private American interests are deemed less important than "Muslim sensitivities"....unbelievable how un-American Obama is.

I am now officially ashamed he is the president. At least with Bush, he believed in American exceptionalism, and that certain things we do and did as a country are sacrosanct. Not with Obama. Everything other non-American, pro-minority cultures do is above American interests.

2012 cannot come soon enough...I have a strong feeling the myopic middle and sheepish left will regret annointing this joker into office, if they haven't already woken up and realized it.

But, why should this be a surprise to anyone? Obama likes to apologetically bow before dictators in photo ops around the globe, and he promptly issued subpoenas for CIA personnel shortly after taking the oath of office and blasted them and their alleged torture techniques...the same agency and techniques responsible for fingering Bin Laden's runner network and his getting intel on his location in Pakistan. I guess Obama has no problem treating them and our military like red headed step children...taking credit for their hard work when it's convenient to him. Did anyone notice how many times he say "I" or "my" in his Bin Laden speech the other night?

How incredibly self-serving and arrogant!!!! Absolutely unbelievable.

202 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:25:38pm

re: #197 ElCapitanAmerica

Reuters is going ahead and publishing their own set of gory post-raid photos;

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

See if that satiates the ghouls a bit.

Sounds like Pakistani security forces must have photographed the two dead brothers and OBL's son when they entered the compound.

From a description of some of the photo documentation the US took:
[Link: whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com...]

3. There are photos of the raid itself that include photos of the two dead brothers, one of OBLs dead son (adult adolescent, maybe approx 18 yrs old) and some of the inside scene of the compound.
203 freetoken  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:25:42pm

re: #199 Dreggas

Ironically, I've come across comments by "left" (whatever that means anymore) wingers on boards that are now what we call "deathers" - they've concluded that it is just some sort of propaganda for further nefarious purposes.

One thing that has proven true over the years of my dealing with people on hot button topics - true belief is fairly impervious to logic.

204 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:26:52pm

re: #199 Dreggas

New line of attack seen on Yahoo with regard to releasing/not releasing the photos:

Chronic complainers are complaining.

205 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:27:01pm

The difference between the Abu Ghrab photos and the unreleased OBL death photos is that one shows criminal acts where many, if not all, involved were investigated and punish, where the other just shows a fucked-up face from a bullet or two. There is no comparison between the two (unless you have advanced ODS). Won't be surprised, though, if that comparison shows up on the usual suspects' blogs.

206 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:27:03pm

re: #202 simoom

These are 1 hour after the raid. It is 3 men, I only saw 1, very bloody (was shot apparently thru the chin).

I think the US forces might have taken OBL's sons body, not sure ...

207 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:28:18pm

re: #197 ElCapitanAmerica

Reuters is going ahead and publishing their own set of gory post-raid photos;

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

See if that satiates the ghouls a bit.

Photographs acquired by Reuters and taken about an hour after the U.S. assault on Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad in Pakistan show three dead men lying in pools of blood, but no weapons.

Oh, the horror! The poor monsters were unarmed! As though anyone would leave loaded weapons lying around an hour after the shooting. If the SEALs couldn't take them for possible intel value, the first Pakistani police to arrive would have.

208 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:28:30pm

The Gellerthing shrieks:

Last night I was interviewed by CBS news on why we must release the death photos of Osama Bin Laden. If, as Obama claims, Osama was "not a Muslim leader," then what is he worried about, right? Such nonsense is consistent with the bubbles belching from Obama's lips. Osama was a Muslim leader, and that is why Obama won't release them.

The "bubbles belching from Obama's lips?"

WTF?

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:28:55pm

re: #208 Charles

The Gellerthing shrieks:

The "bubbles belching from Obama's lips?"

WTF?

She's on a bubble kick right now.

210 jaunte  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:29:12pm

re: #208 Charles

She has bubbles on the brain.

211 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:29:37pm

Another routers link (the other one barely loads)
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

212 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:29:46pm

re: #208 Charles

The Gellerthing shrieks:

The "bubbles belching from Obama's lips?"

WTF?

fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son Pam.

213 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:29:48pm

re: #208 Charles

The Gellerthing shrieks:

The "bubbles belching from Obama's lips?"

WTF?

More bullshit spewing from Geller's mouth. And why is CBS News interviewing this uneducated idiot?

214 PhillyPretzel  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:30:10pm

Gellerthing. Hmm I like it. It is better that "that Geller person."

215 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:30:37pm

re: #210 jaunte

She has bubbles on the brain.

She has a bubble in her piping. The gas has stopped flowing.

/

216 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:30:41pm

re: #208 Charles

Alliteration (along with site design, grammar, etc.) isn't her strong suit.

217 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:31:12pm

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh

ESPN wants to see Trump's Driver License before he drives Indy 500 pace car

[Link: www.indystar.com...]


Many offended by remarks they view as racist
A groundswell of pressure is starting to build on Indianapolis 500 officials to dump Donald Trump as pace car driver at this month's race.

218 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:31:41pm

re: #215 Gus 802

She has a bubble in her piping. The gas has stopped flowing.

/

Vapor lock.

219 Targetpractice  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:31:43pm

re: #213 Gus 802

More bullshit spewing from Geller's mouth. And why is CBS News interviewing this uneducated idiot?

Perhaps to show as "Exhibit A" of just how truly far off the deep end the Right has gone?

220 lawhawk  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:32:16pm

re: #213 Gus 802

She's the figurehead of the opposition of the Ground Zero mosque, so they figured she was worth talking to. Doubt that they would have delved any deeper than that - but they should have.

The spewage on her site about Obama having to go ahead with the mission or else face a coup is beyond the pale for conspiracy lunacy - and reporting on it as anything but is irresponsible.

221 jaunte  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:32:20pm

re: #215 Gus 802

"Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of bubble".

222 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:32:35pm

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) interview -- photo release Qs:
[Link: www.boston.com...]

Having seen unreleased photos of Osama bin Laden’s corpse, US Senator Scott Brown does not believe pictures of the dead terrorist leader should be made public, the Massachusetts Republican said in an interview on NECN.

“Let me assure you that he is dead, that bin Laden is dead — I have seen the photos,” Brown said hours before President Obama declared he would not release the images.

....

Asked directly if the pictures, which have been described as bloody and gruesome, should be made available for everyone, Brown told NECN: “If it’s to sell newspapers or just have a news cycle story, no, I don’t think they should be released. We’re still dealing with the sensitivities of the Muslim and Arab world. And we still have men and women serving throughout the world.”

223 EdDantes  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:33:34pm

re: #217 zora

I wouldn't let him drive my car. Has he driven a car in the last 30 years? Better to let his chauffeur drive the pace car: he has recent experience.

224 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:33:42pm

Think I found a way to save money on fertilizer. The agricultural industry can simply use one cubic inch of Pam Geller's hot air that emanates from her mouth valve. Think of it as homeopathic fertilizer cow manure. A little bit goes a long way.

//

225 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:34:14pm

BTW Senatorre: #222 simoom

Senator Brown is a moron, I think he was duped by the fake picture we saw yesterday because the story was updating with him saying he saw a doctored photo !!!

I hope that disqualifies him from going to any security briefings!!!

226 Targetpractice  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:34:20pm

re: #222 simoom

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) interview -- photo release Qs:
[Link: www.boston.com...]

Damned RINO, what does he know about Real America?! My morbid curiosity must be satisfied, or else I will be forced to believe that Obama is lying!

227 The Left  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:34:20pm

re: #220 lawhawk

She's the figurehead of the opposition of the Ground Zero mosque, so they figured she was worth talking to. Doubt that they would have delved any deeper than that - but they should have.

The spewage on her site about Obama having to go ahead with the mission or else face a coup is beyond the pale for conspiracy lunacy - and reporting on it as anything but is irresponsible.

Please, she was lost to reality long ago, and no reputable news prganisation should have had anything to do with her at least since she claimed that Malcolm X was Obama's father, and probably sooner.

228 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:34:26pm

Your daily dose of racism from Fox News readers...
Michelle Obama Shows Off Her Dance Moves

Looks like a tribal dance of some kind!

The ghetto just keeps on busting through; will the White House ever be the same?

Did you ever see michelle and barack tap dance? It's a real minstrel show.

229 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:34:30pm

re: #222 simoom

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) interview -- photo release Qs:
[Link: www.boston.com...]

The nutterbutters are going to hate the sensitivty to the Muslim and Arab world comment and totally ignore the troops point he makes.

230 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:35:04pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Your daily dose of racism from Fox News readers...
Michelle Obama Shows Off Her Dance Moves

That's not racist! -- Instapundit

//

231 Bulworth  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:35:16pm

Conservalogic is giving me whiplash. First it was really terrible that Obama had OBL killed because NOW the terrorists were going to get really mad and angry and Kill Us All!! But as soon as Obama says no photo release the reichwing sez "Whaaaaahh, you aren't releasing the photos because you're afraid of making Muslims mad!" Blah blah blah.

232 freetoken  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:35:50pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Murdoch knows his customers - he gives them what they want.

233 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:36:03pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Your daily dose of racism from Fox News readers...
Michelle Obama Shows Off Her Dance Moves

That kind of hatred is just sad. Really, what the hell did Michelle ever do to them? Oh that's right, she had the nerve to encourage pepole to eat healthy. We don't want that do we? I am not big on the so called nany state either but it goes both ways, we should be encouraging healthy eating habits with obesity in children at an all time high.

234 leftynyc  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:36:14pm

re: #182 Naso Tang

Damn, I keep seeing Obama Osama and my circuits have fused.

My sincere apologies Mr. President.

If I may make a suggestion. I gave up on the first name and just call him bin laden.

235 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:37:30pm

re: #213 Gus 802

More bullshit spewing from Geller's mouth. And why is CBS News interviewing this uneducated idiot?

they may as well see what snooki thinks.

236 The Left  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:37:32pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

That kind of hatred is just sad. Really, what the hell did Michelle ever do to them?

She's the FLOTUS. That's all it took. Really. They had a huge hate-on for her before the election even-- remember the infamous whitey tape?

237 blueraven  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:37:38pm

Ick...had to run up to the post office. Tuned the radio to Hannity to see how he was taking the news. Not good. He was going on about "just google Daniel Pearl, you will see tons of dead photos"

What a dumb ass argument. We are supposed to emulate those guys?

238 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:37:58pm

re: #214 PhillyPretzel

Gellerthing. Hmm I like it. It is better that "that Geller person."

I still prefer and will use the Shrieking Harpy label. Though if someone were to add a bile green froth around her beak I wouldn't complain.

239 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:38:16pm

Apparently from the photos, one of the occupants was arming himself with a green plastic water gun!

240 mr.fusion  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:38:39pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

That kind of hatred is just sad. Really, what the hell did Michelle ever do to them? Oh that's right, she had the nerve to encourage pepole to eat healthy. be black. We don't want that do we? I am not big on the so called nany state either but it goes both ways, we should be encouraging healthy eating habits with obesity in children at an all time high.

FIFY

241 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:39:04pm

re: #232 freetoken

Murdoch knows his customers - he gives them what they want.

Undereducated, ignorant dolts with nary a talented bone in their bodies. I always picture them with a can of beer by their side laughing to themselves as they type out their comments. Spittle hitting the monitor. Don't forget that the internet is still largely a new thing for this "New Media" commentator demographic.

242 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:39:26pm

re: #222 simoom

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) interview -- photo release Qs:
[Link: www.boston.com...]

i have been pleasantly surprised by scott brown since his election. no, it was his nude photo but that didn't hurt.

243 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:40:20pm

re: #236 iceweasel

She's the FLOTUS. That's all it took. Really. They had a huge hate-on for her before the election even-- remember the infamous whitey tape?

I tell you this much, it must suck to be them, so hateful, so little time. The funny thing is they think the President and Michelle are the real hateful ones.

244 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:41:02pm

re: #239 ElCapitanAmerica

Apparently from the photos, one of the occupants was arming himself with a green plastic water gun!

I'd assume that was just a toy, left out on the floor, that the man collapsed on top of. There were multiple families, including children that lived in the compound.

245 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:41:50pm

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Your daily dose of racism from Fox News readers...
Michelle Obama Shows Off Her Dance Moves

i loved that video of her dancing with school children. i'm glad the hate directed toward her doesn't appear to be stealing her joy.

246 The Left  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:42:59pm

re: #243 HappyWarrior

I tell you this much, it must suck to be them, so hateful, so little time. The funny thing is they think the President and Michelle are the real hateful ones.

Oh yeah, just like how wingnuts go on and on about how liberals are 'filled with hate'. Total projection, of course.

In such cases I really think these people know, deep down, that they're the hatefilled unhappy ones. That only makes them spew more hatred though.

247 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:43:24pm

re: #236 iceweasel

She's the FLOTUS. That's all it took. Really. They had a huge hate-on for her before the election even-- remember the infamous whitey tape?

Non-existent "whitey tape" is non-existent.

Typically bigots loath black women. They already loath educated white women. But they hate educated black women the most. Especially since these very same bigots are the most ignorant citizens in America.

Ignorant bigots are ignorant.

248 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:44:12pm

re: #246 iceweasel

Oh yeah, just like how wingnuts go on and on about how liberals are 'filled with hate'. Total projection, of course.

In such cases I really think these people know, deep down, that they're the hatefilled unhappy ones. That only makes them spew more hatred though.

I still think one of the most funny moments I've ever had with a conservative was when one told me that the liberals who hated Ann Coulter were the real hateful ones. Considering Ann's made a nice fortune off of liberals are evil pornography that was hilarious to me.

249 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:44:33pm

re: #239 ElCapitanAmerica

Apparently from the photos, one of the occupants was arming himself with a green plastic water gun!

Reuters sounds pretty sure of the authenticity of the photos, but they could be from any day ending in a "y" from Mexico.

250 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:45:14pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

I still think one of the most funny moments I've ever had with a conservative was when one told me that the liberals who hated Ann Coulter were the real hateful ones. Considering Ann's made a nice fortune off of liberals are evil pornography that was hilarious to me.

Yep. And Ann Coulter is famous for being nice.

//

251 The Left  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:45:38pm

re: #247 Gus 802

Non-existent "whitey tape" is non-existent.

Typically bigots loath black women. They already loath educated white women. But they hate educated black women the most. Especially since these very same bigots are the most ignorant citizens in America.

Ignorant bigots are ignorant.

Absolutely. The educated black woman is a double punch for the misogynistic bigot, who wants to hate her for being a woman AND has to handle her race on top of that. Their circuits jam.

252 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:47:40pm

She probably would have posed with the corpse then had it stuffed and mounted.

253 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:47:52pm

re: #251 iceweasel

altho' almost as bad are the paternalistic 'well at least they got educated and overcame their racial handicaps' people.

254 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:48:30pm

One of the guys from the pictures looks like he could be OBL son's after all ...

256 Big Steve  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:49:21pm

I like first lady Michelle Obama. You get the feeling that if she ever caught Barack doing what Clinton did with an intern, the UBL death pics would no longer be the most gruesome thing on the internet.

257 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:49:23pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

That kind of hatred is just sad. Really, what the hell did Michelle ever do to them? Oh that's right, she had the nerve to encourage pepole to eat healthy. We don't want that do we? I am not big on the so called nany state either but it goes both ways, we should be encouraging healthy eating habits with obesity in children at an all time high.

In other words, she was urging kids to "Just say no" to twinkies and burritos...

258 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:49:26pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Absolutely. The educated black woman is a double punch for the misogynistic bigot, who wants to hate her for being a woman AND has to handle her race on top of that. Their circuits jam.

Yep. Barack Obama is a quadruple punch for the wingnut bigots: black, half-white, African father, and mixed race parents with a white mother. The latter being a historical cause of violence in America's past -- i.e. a black man dating a white women, etc.

259 Velvet Elvis  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:49:57pm

and it's already been paged. Derp.

260 RogueOne  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:50:14pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

The nutterbutters are going to hate the sensitivty to the Muslim and Arab world comment and totally ignore the troops point he makes.

Because it's a silly argument. Does he really think there are people out there that are ok with shooting him in the face, unarmed, (and killing his kids) but are just waiting to take to the streets because the white house releases a photo?

261 The Left  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:50:21pm

re: #253 windsagio

altho' almost as bad are the paternalistic 'well at least they got educated and overcame their racial handicaps' people.

Yeah, those are like the guys who congratulate a woman on being smart -- despite being a woman!
Women often enable this sort of misogyny because they're flattered when they're told "oh, we don't mean you (when we say nasty things about women), you're different!". Standard behaviour of the oppressed.

262 RogueOne  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:52:15pm

re: #261 iceweasel

That was well said for a girl////

(someone was going to do it, it may as well be me.)

263 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:52:44pm

re: #260 RogueOne

see #8

264 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:53:13pm

Osama bin Laden's daughter witnessed his death, says Pakistani official:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Osama bin Laden's 12-year-old daughter watched as her father was shot dead by American special forces, a senior Pakistani intelligence official has told the Guardian.

The girl, who was found at the scene of the raid by Pakistani security services, is being cared for at a military hospital having been wounded in the attack. She has been questioned about the sequence of events during the raid last weekend.

The official said Pakistani intelligence services, who are holding 11 other survivors of the deadly raid on Bin Laden's Pakistani hiding place, would not allow their interrogation by US officials.

"That would occur only if there was written assent from their country of origin. We are yet to receive any request to my knowledge, but given the [critical] statements coming out of Washington and the fact that [the raid] was not an operation we were involved in, we would not accept," he said.

Poor kid.

265 RogueOne  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:53:49pm

re: #263 zora

see #8

I did. I bit my tongue but couldn't help myself when Brown repeated it. It's a bad argument.

266 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:54:03pm

re: #264 simoom

Osama bin Laden's daughter witnessed his death, says Pakistani official:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Poor kid.

What happens to the surviving wife and kids now? Are the wives Saudis, or did he marry local girls? Can they go home?

267 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:54:44pm

re: #261 iceweasel

this actually came up in the Pakistani kefluffle yesterday. Somebody actually said something like "They don't think like us, they're inherently hostile to our beliefs... Except for the educated elite, they're okay".

The base assumption is that ther'es something inherently wrong with being female, black, pakistani, chinese, whatever... and it slips in easily.

Yeah, those are like the guys who congratulate a woman on being smart -- despite being a woman!
Women often enable this sort of misogyny because they're flattered when they're told "oh, we don't mean you (when we say nasty things about women), you're different!". Standard behaviour of the oppressed.


I dunno, I'd be pissed if somebody said that to me, its so goddamn condescending... 'aww you're so cute and smart and pretty! Have a treat!'

268 Big Steve  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:55:01pm

re: #264 simoom

Osama bin Laden's daughter witnessed his death, says Pakistani official:
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]


Poor kid.


I am calling bullshit on this story by the way. I will not believe a single thing that comes out from Pakistani officials on this.

269 kirkspencer  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:55:31pm

re: #267 windsagio

this actually came up in the Pakistani kefluffle yesterday. Somebody actually said something like "They don't think like us, they're inherently hostile to our beliefs... Except for the educated elite, they're okay".

The base assumption is that ther'es something inherently wrong with being female, black, pakistani, chinese, whatever... and it slips in easily.


I dunno, I'd be pissed if somebody said that to me, its so goddamn condescending... 'aww you're so cute and smart and pretty! Have a treat!'

"Well bless your heart..."

270 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:57:54pm

re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist

What happens to the surviving wife and kids now? Are the wives Saudis, or did he marry local girls? Can they go home?

It is reported he was with his "younger" wife, she is Yemeni.

271 sagehen  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:59:11pm

re: #231 Bulworth

Conservalogic is giving me whiplash. First it was really terrible that Obama had OBL killed because NOW the terrorists were going to get really mad and angry and Kill Us All!! But as soon as Obama says no photo release the reichwing sez "Whaaahh, you aren't releasing the photos because you're afraid of making Muslims mad!" Blah blah blah.

To quote Jon Stewart:

"Are terrorists still going to try to hurt us? Sure. Might they even succeed? Sure.

"But you know who's not going to see it? Osama Bin Laden. Because we shot him in the eyes."

272 Achilles Tang  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:59:23pm

re: #260 RogueOne

Because it's a silly argument. Does he really think there are people out there that are ok with shooting him in the face, unarmed, (and killing his kids) but are just waiting to take to the streets because the white house releases a photo?

We don't release photos of our dead, nor our enemies as a general rule. The distinction between those who do and those who don't can be reduced to two words, or three, or 4 if Reuters is included.

Class or no class.

273 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 1:59:53pm

re: #264 simoom

Obama knew that he was one of the most wanted criminals in the world, and that if his location became known, people would be coming after him, armed and ready to shoot. He had to take that into consideration when he let his family live with him.

People act as if we somewho violated his rights and privacy by raiding his compound.

274 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:00:14pm

re: #272 Naso Tang

We don't even release photos of the coffins of our dead anymore >>

275 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:00:43pm

re: #274 windsagio

We don't even release photos of the coffins of our dead anymore >>


I believe Obama overturned that ruling.

276 Targetpractice  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:01:06pm

re: #268 Big Steve

I am calling bullshit on this story by the way. I will not believe a single thing that comes out from Pakistani officials on this.

Agreed. They've got plenty of reasons to lie their ass off about every detail concerning this story.

277 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:01:08pm

re: #275 ralphieboy

Good to know, I wasn't aware of that.

Also good on him!

278 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:01:17pm

re: #268 Big Steve

I am calling bullshit on this story by the way. I will not believe a single thing that comes out from Pakistani officials on this.

As far as I can tell, from skimming the article, it basically meshes with our account of the raid. But you're probably right, statements from Pakistani officials are due some degree of skepticism.

279 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:02:05pm

Leaked burial at see video

280 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:02:32pm

re: #279 Dreggas

well I screwed that one up. *mumbles*

281 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:02:34pm

re: #275 ralphieboy

I believe Obama overturned that ruling.

Partially -- the decision is now left to the surviving family.

282 Varek Raith  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:03:14pm

re: #280 Dreggas

well I screwed that one up. *mumbles*

Nice try.
:P

283 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:03:33pm

re: #279 Dreggas

I'd be careful of any 'leaked' OBL related videos, at least a few of them have been all virused up :(

284 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:03:46pm

re: #282 Varek Raith

Nice try.
:P

normally when I post links to videos they show up as youtube *shrugs*

285 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:03:52pm

re: #283 windsagio

me am slow miss, joke.

286 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:03:55pm

re: #273 ralphieboy

Obama knew that he was one of the most wanted criminals in the world, and that if his location became known, people would be coming after him, armed and ready to shoot. He had to take that into consideration when he let his family live with him.

People act as if we somewho violated his rights and privacy by raiding his compound.

osama. and i agree.

287 Varek Raith  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:04:38pm

re: #285 windsagio

me am slow miss, joke.

Man, you ain't cool enough to even be rick rolled.
Sad.
///

288 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:04:48pm

It's pretty simple. The government basically "reserves the right" to release the photos. The photos however have been made available to other government officials including members of congress. Many of those same congressmen are happy that the photos will not be released and that includes many Republicans.

289 RogueOne  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:05:09pm

re: #272 Naso Tang

This situation is not covered by Geneva. The method of collection isn't secret. The incident isn't secret. The major players involved are not secret. There will be an FOIA lawsuit and the defense of "because it might hurt someones feelings" isn't going to fly anymore than it did during the abu ghraib fight.

290 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:05:14pm

re: #286 zora

had to up-ding you as your innocence was kinda amusing.

291 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:05:43pm

still the photo thread...wow
can more be said?

292 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:06:00pm

re: #287 Varek Raith

Lol damn, that's so sad >>

Should it make me feel better that it would have roked if the youtube link had worked right?

293 RogueOne  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:06:16pm

Gotta run folks.

294 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:06:59pm

re: #290 Dreggas

had to up-ding you as your innocence was kinda amusing.

do you think he said obama on purpose?

295 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:07:01pm

re: #273 ralphieboy

I'm definitely not expressing any regret that OBL was taken out. Just offering sympathy for a 12-year old little girl who had the awful misfortune of having him for a father.

296 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:07:16pm

re: #292 windsagio

Lol damn, that's so sad >>

Should it make me feel better that it would have roked if the youtube link had worked right?

That's what has me most irked. If the youtube link had worked I would have won the game!

297 Achilles Tang  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:07:38pm

re: #289 RogueOne

This situation is not covered by Geneva. The method of collection isn't secret. The incident isn't secret. The major players involved are not secret. There will be an FOIA lawsuit and the defense of "because it might hurt someones feelings" isn't going to fly anymore than it did during the abu ghraib fight.

That's fine. Let the ghouls announce themselves.

298 AK-47%  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:08:31pm

re: #286 zora

osama. and i agree.

There is only one way for me to avoid making that slip-up again (I done did it here once already), and that is to refer to our President by his middle name of "Hussein"...

299 The Left  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:08:52pm

Disgusting.

To The FBI, Lara Logan Wasn't Raped

300 SidewaysQuark  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:09:37pm

To be honest, I wish our good host Charles would once in a while deride the still-rampant idiocy of the far left, as well, such as left-leaning radio talk show host Mike Malloy's recent comment that Navy Seals should take out ex-President G W Bush.

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

The far right might be the biggest bastion of idiocy in the country now, but they sure aren't alone.

301 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:09:46pm

re: #295 simoom

I'm definitely not expressing any regret that OBL was taken out. Just offering sympathy for a 12-year old little girl who had the awful misfortune of having him for a father.

Yep. We must always maintain sympathy for the innocent. If not we are nothing but monsters. It's like seeing the family suicide photos in 1945 Berlin.

302 simoom  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:09:46pm

re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist

What happens to the surviving wife and kids now? Are the wives Saudis, or did he marry local girls? Can they go home?

From that same Guardian article:

On Tuesday, the Pakistani Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement saying that "the family members of Osama bin Laden [are] all in safe hands ... in the best possible facilities," and that "as per policy" the relatives would be handed over to their countries of origin.

This, however, may not be easy. One problem is their unclear legal status. The Saudi Arabian citizenship of the al-Qaida leader was withdrawn in 1994 following his violent criticism of the kingdom's royal family leaving the exact nationality of his children unclear. Two young sons of Bin Laden are believed to be among the survivors held by the Pakistanis.

It is also far from certain that either Yemen or Saudi Arabia would be willing to accept the repatriation of Bin Laden's family members or their friends. Nor is their identification a simple task. Some of the children found at the compound may be those of the two brothers killed in the raid, and may have Pakistani nationality. The youngest child found at the compound is two.

303 Achilles Tang  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:10:31pm

re: #295 simoom

I'm definitely not expressing any regret that OBL was taken out. Just offering sympathy for a 12-year old little girl who had the awful misfortune of having him for a father.

You think there is just one? That guy was like a rabbit. He pretends to stick to four wives by divorcing one for another, and I would think he is not averse to doing so between evening and morning. All he has to do is say it three times.

304 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:13:06pm

re: #300 SidewaysQuark

Steady now there horsey.

305 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:13:42pm

re: #300 SidewaysQuark

that guys been a hack for years(he was part of air americas "all star" line up.
Basically he's the lefts version of coulter...they'll say anything.they are equally odious...and make the nation cumber every time they talk.

306 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:14:15pm

re: #305 Boondock St. Bender

that guys been a hack for years(he was part of air americas "all star" line up.
Basically he's the lefts version of coulter...they'll say anything.they are equally odious...and make the nation cumber every time they talk.

cumber?

307 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:14:18pm

re: #300 SidewaysQuark

To be honest, I wish our good host Charles would once in a while deride the still-rampant idiocy of the far left, as well, such as left-leaning radio talk show host Mike Malloy's recent comment that Navy Seals should take out ex-President G W Bush.

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

The far right might be the biggest bastion of idiocy in the country now, but they sure aren't alone.

Since when was Malloy running for president or a former candidate for vice president? Is he ever on national TV as a supposed "respected" commentator? Does he have an audience of millions? Does he have a TV network he can go on that spews the same thing?

magical balance fairy is not amused.

308 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:14:28pm

re: #305 Boondock St. Bender

cumber>>>>dumber

309 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:14:38pm

re: #300 SidewaysQuark

That's pretty horrible, never heard of that "radio host" though.

I hope he gets a visit from the secret service.

310 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:15:08pm

re: #306 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

you are quick my friend....

311 acacia  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:16:27pm

Obama has been far from perfect but I have to give him all the credit in the world on this one. He is handling this whole OBL as a President - not a politician. Frankly it's a breath of fresh air. I honestly don't think that Palin is capable of viewing anything in other than political terms - and inflamatory political terms at that.

312 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:16:29pm

re: #310 Boondock St. Bender

you are quick my friend...

Ever the rapist wit here.

313 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:17:00pm

Pardon my French but fuck. What a scumbag.

Beck: Obama's "Victory Lap" At Ground Zero Is "Obscene," "Grotesque"

314 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:17:12pm

re: #300 SidewaysQuark

To be honest, I wish our good host Charles would once in a while deride the still-rampant idiocy of the far left, as well, such as left-leaning radio talk show host Mike Malloy's recent comment that Navy Seals should take out ex-President G W Bush.

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

The far right might be the biggest bastion of idiocy in the country now, but they sure aren't alone.

here is what your link quotes malloy as saying:

MIKE MALLOY: I have heard some commentators talk about the fact that, all the lives that have been lost in this war on terror, and now the summary execution of the person responsible. But as soon as I heard that, I thought, well, bin Laden really didn't have anything to do -- did he? -- with Iraq. And I think his only relationship with Afghanistan was geographical.

But Iraq -- all the death in Iraq was not caused by bin Laden. The death in Iraq was caused by George W. Bush. Five thousand Americans, tens of thousands permanently damaged and shot to pieces, a million Iraqis dead -- that wasn't bin Laden. That was George Bush. So when does Seal Unit 6, or whatever it's called, drop in on George Bush? Bush was responsible for a lot more death, innocent death, than bin Laden. Wasn't he, or am I wrong here?

315 ProGunLiberal  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:17:28pm

re: #313 Gus 802

Why isn't Beck at the Funny Farm yet?

316 uncah91  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:17:47pm

re: #308 Boondock St. Bender

cumber>>>dumber

Cumber -> Similar to a vegetable -> Dumber

It all makes sense

317 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:18:09pm

re: #315 ProLifeLiberal

Why isn't Beck at the Funny Farm yet?

Because he would set such a bad example there.

318 Achilles Tang  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:18:38pm

re: #300 SidewaysQuark


The far right might be the biggest bastion of idiocy in the country now, but they sure aren't alone.

No they aren't, and I posted a sorry commentary from HRW yesterday. However unless you want to sometimes include the Ed Show on MSNBC, most of them don't get much press.

319 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:18:48pm

re: #314 engineer dog

to answer his question...he's wrong there....followed by a quick"Shut up Meg!"

320 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:19:04pm

re: #316 uncah91

Cumber -> Similar to a vegetable -> Dumber

It all makes sense

And a large enough amount of cumber in your mind would slow you down, thus encumbering you.

;)

321 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:19:46pm

re: #320 oaktree

Dear god what did i start?!?!

322 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:19:50pm

re: #311 acacia

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

Sarah Palin's tribute to the military becomes a nasty attack on Obama

But what really stood out was the fact that Palin's speech -- delivered less than 24 hours after the death of Osama bin Laden was announced, and full of all kinds of congratulations and praise to the troops and commanders who made it happen -- deliberately omitted, in about as obvious and as graceless and clumsy a fashion imaginable, President Obama from the congratulations.

Indeed, she instead congratulated George W. Bush. And then she went on to attack Obama for his foreign policy -- and worse yet, imply to the gathered soldiers that he was undeserving of their loyalty -- without, in fact, ever once even enunciating his name.

video of speech at link.

323 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:20:48pm

re: #321 Boondock St. Bender

Dear god what did i start?!?!

Stress relief. Expect the pun flood to continue...

324 SidewaysQuark  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:21:05pm

re: #314 engineer dog

here is what your link quotes malloy as saying:

Five thousand Americans, tens of thousands permanently damaged and shot to pieces, a million Iraqis dead -- that wasn't bin Laden. That was George Bush. So when does Seal Unit 6, or whatever it's called, drop in on George Bush?

Yes, and I find that pretty repugnant. I agree invading Iraq was a bad decision, but equating W. to Osama Bin Laden, and suggesting he should be "dropped in" on in a similar manner, is pure insanity.

325 SidewaysQuark  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:22:06pm

re: #315 ProLifeLiberal

Why isn't Beck at the Funny Farm yet?

Because he isn't funny?

326 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:22:21pm

re: #322 zora

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

Sarah Palin's tribute to the military becomes a nasty attack on Obama

video of speech at link.

She's nuts.

327 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:23:14pm

At first I used to think Palin's problem was only ignorance. Now? I've come to the conclusion that she's missing a few cards in her deck.

328 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:23:17pm

re: #323 oaktree

Stress relief. Expect the pun flood to continue...

Bumber

329 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:23:51pm

re: #327 Gus 802

At first I used to think Palin's problem was only ignorance. Now? I've come to the conclusion that she's missing a few cards in her deck.

She's got a full deck.

Unfortunately, she is playing Uno.

330 Targetpractice  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:24:15pm

re: #326 Gus 802

She's nuts.

She's imploding before our very eyes. Don't interrupt an enemy when they're making a mistake.

331 uncah91  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:24:16pm

re: #321 Boondock St. Bender

Dear god what did i start?!?!

The whole thing is a little bit cumbersome, but don't let that weigh you down...

332 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:25:13pm

re: #313 Gus 802

but if it was a republican it would be A-O-K!

333 acacia  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:26:21pm

re: #322 zora

It's sad but true that finding examples of Palin being a total political hack is like shooting fish in a barrel.

334 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:27:22pm

re: #332 Dreggas

but if it was a republican it would be A-O-K!

I think what we're seeing is a massive display of envy and jealousy. They're clearly envious that Osama was killed on Obama's watch. Now they simply respond like spoiled children kicking and screaming.

335 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:29:21pm

re: #324 SidewaysQuark

Yes, and I find that pretty repugnant. I agree invading Iraq was a bad decision, but equating W. to Osama Bin Laden, and suggesting he should be "dropped in" on in a similar manner, is pure insanity.

i just wanted to point out the difference between stating that malloy said "Navy Seals should take out ex-President G W Bush" and what he really said. a small difference, but not the same either

i've listened to malloy quite a bit on long commutes, and he is very incendiary. he goes too far. he's the one, iirc, that coined the phrase "bush crime family"

336 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:30:08pm

Mike Huckabee's Revealing Holocaust Gaffe

The former governor thinks he can get away with comparing higher taxes to the Holocaust because of his “unequalled friendship” with Israel. But is he really an ally of the Jewish community?

After all he’s done for Israel, Mike Huckabee does not appreciate being criticized for comparing American debt to the Holocaust. Thus on Tuesday, when the Anti-Defamation League’s Abraham Foxman chastised him for doing just that, he responded with anger and a hint of menace, saying, “Israel and Jewish people need to make friends, not insult the ones they have.” Such words are unlikely to convince many Jews that Huckabee is their ally. The statement should serve as a reminder that the aggressive Zionism of the Christian right does not translate into sensitivity toward broader Jewish concerns.

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

note to politicians. stop comparing shit to the holocaust, slavery, lynching and rape.

337 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:30:27pm

re: #334 Gus 802

I think what we're seeing is a massive display of envy and jealousy. They're clearly envious that Osama was killed on Obama's watch. Now they simply respond like spoiled children kicking and screaming.

And I've never viewed the potential to throw a tantrum as a desirable trait in my political leadership or media commentary.

Canute ordering the sea to recede was to make a point to his followers. This sort of thing is an attempt to deny reality via emitting negative emotional energy. I guess that will allow them to cry themselves to sleep at night.

338 ProGunLiberal  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:31:54pm

Off topic, but I hope this is just a rumor:

Vdonna: RT @SupportForLibya: PLS RT! Village in Nafousa-Ain Ghazaya reports of #Gaddafi thugs separating men and women.50 women taken on bus to unknown location #Libya

339 Targetpractice  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:32:10pm

re: #336 zora

Mike Huckabee's Revealing Holocaust Gaffe

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

note to politicians. stop comparing shit to the holocaust, slavery, lynching and rape.

They never will, not so long as emotional appeals win over gullible voters.

340 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:33:27pm

re: #336 zora

He's also kind of acting as though the ADL speaks for Israel, which is weird. Basically, he's acting as though Israel and all Jews are the same group.

341 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:34:09pm

re: #322 zora

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

Sarah Palin's tribute to the military becomes a nasty attack on Obama

video of speech at link.

when her reaction to the giffords shooting was to repel blame and try to turn it on others instead of apologizing for the possibility that her actions might in some way have contributed to it, it seemed to me that it was clear to the country that she doesn't have the emotional maturity for public office

342 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:34:16pm

Hmm. I think Buck set the record for negative karma. He's still working on it! ;)

343 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:34:39pm

YES!! HE IS MOST SINCERELY DEAD!!
These guys know how to celebrate!

Youtube Video
344 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:34:41pm

re: #336 zora

Mike Huckabee's Revealing Holocaust Gaffe

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

note to politicians. stop comparing shit to the holocaust, slavery, lynching and rape.

Huckabee, from your quote:

“Israel and Jewish people need to make friends, not insult the ones they have.”

Huckabee just revealed how special he thinks he is. "Israel and Jewish people" have no right to criticize him, because he is one of their few friends. If one of my friends said that to me, I'd have one less friend and be grateful to have one less false friend.

345 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:35:08pm

re: #340 Obdicut

He's also kind of acting as though the ADL speaks for Israel, which is weird. Basically, he's acting as though Israel and all Jews are the same group.

you and your facts.

346 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:36:21pm

re: #342 Gus 802

Hmm. I think Buck set the record for negative karma. He's still working on it! ;)

he's just stubborn without much to say about a subject that was burned out yesterday...it's a real dog pile for some reason....persuasion is more important I guess....so what's Sarah up to? any good new jokes?

347 acacia  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:36:37pm

re: #341 engineer dog

All you have to do is listen to her for one minute on ANY topic and you realize that she has no maturity for public office or any job of any responsibility.

348 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:36:47pm

re: #340 Obdicut

He's also kind of acting as though the ADL speaks for Israel, which is weird. Basically, he's acting as though Israel and all Jews are the same group.

It also seems like Huckabee and his ilk seem to think that there is only one political party in Israel.

349 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:38:14pm

re: #342 Gus 802

Hmm. I think Buck set the record for negative karma. He's still working on it! ;)

I'm starting to think he is who Palin had in mind when she said "Buck some thread." Oh, wait, she said "buck some tide". Never mind.

351 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:39:40pm

re: #347 acacia

All you have to do is listen to her for one minute on ANY topic and you realize that she has no maturity for public office or any job of any responsibility.

hells no. as she so eloquently put it.

352 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:42:08pm

LOL

Image: c8490cb7-c5e7-43fa-90bf-dcc4cd5d7d50.jpg

353 Wozza Matter?  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:43:06pm

re: #350 Gus 802

Christiane Amanpour Knew Osama bin Laden Was in a Villa in Pakistan Back in 2008

[Video]

Probably.

She is a smart lady, and "intelligence service" is an oxymoron.

354 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:45:12pm

re: #350 Gus 802

Christiane Amanpour Knew Osama bin Laden Was in a Villa in Pakistan Back in 2008

[Video]

obviously Amanpour should have been waterboarded until she revealed the villa he was hiding in...

//

355 Kragar  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:45:17pm

John Stewart on the Pakistani Intelligence service hiding Bin Laden

"So your argument is that you are way too smart to put him in such an obvious location, but too clueless to notice he was there?"

356 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:45:46pm

re: #350 Gus 802

Christiane Amanpour Knew Osama bin Laden Was in a Villa in Pakistan Back in 2008

[Video]

Somebody has to find out who Amanpour heard that from and pour her a tall, cool glass of STFU. Although the horse doesn't even remember what the barn door looks like at this point.

357 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:46:20pm

Another funny

Image: 014867e5-ef50-406c-9f93-909a1d1a345c.jpg

358 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:49:18pm

re: #326 Gus 802

She's nuts.

She's nasty.

359 Gus  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:49:49pm

Back to my chores. Later.

360 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:49:58pm

going running. later lizards.

361 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:52:05pm

It's a trend!

362 engineer cat  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:53:14pm

Media Matters: Conservative Media Denounce Obama's "Disgusting" Ground Zero Visit As A "Political Victory Lap"

the wingnuts don't realize it yet, but that mainline they used to have for 30 years to the psyche of a large number of americans has disappeared

karl rove is trying to tell them about it, but they think he's a "liberal" now...

363 Ojoe  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:54:42pm

Show them. We live in an imperfect world; a significant fraction of human beings are actually barbarians still, and the images of OBL's demise will get through to them in such a way as to protect other people, even the Eloi types who want to close their eyes to everything unpleasant.

364 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:58:42pm

Fascinating Hypocrisy watch at LGF.

There is a much updinged and discussed post about $cientologists and how they should not be bashed because mainstream Protestants are worse.

Where are the concern police worried about bashing all Protestants?

Here are some differences between $cientology and mainstream Protestants?

Well here are some differences between $cientologists and mainstream Protestants:

1. Mainstream Protestants put their belief systems upfront. You do not need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to find out the "whole story" of Jesus.What an amazing piece of garbage this entire post is.

2. Mainstream Protestants don't hound people who leave the faith or try to destroy their lives and livelihoods.

3. Mainstream Protestants do not use a reinforced form of delusion called auditing that only causes the subject to imagine he has super-powers while all the while getting private dirt on him.

4. Mainstream Protestants do not split up families or declare people suppressive personalities and then strip someone from the only people they know. They aslo don't set up an indentured lifestyle that forces people into a situation where such leverage is possible.

5. Mainstream Protestants generally don't make claims about the nature of the universe that are instantly seen as bunk. I am pointedly not including the fundies as mainstream, but seriously, if there were multiple megaton nuclear blasts on the Earth to release all of those angry thetans, that would have left a geological record. Of course, the fact that they were shipped here in rocket powered DC-9s only adds to the sense of giddy delusion.

I could go on, but so many here are so reality challenged it would not matter.

The thesis boils down to saying that any sort of judgement of any belief system is wrong because all belief systems are equally wrong. The writer bashes $cientology accordingly but, like all beliefs, they are equally contemptible and not the "real problem."

This is relativist nonsense taken to its logical extreme coupled with the arrogance of someone who can not understand the need ofr a spiritual connection and spewing his own hatred of such things all while pretending falsely to be ohh so enlightened and tolerant. It is smug, arrogant and ignorant with a heavy dose of new-agey pap and patting oneself on the back for being ohh so enlightened.

It then goes on to attack Protestants all while claiming we should not hate. A proper statement might be that the extreme hate filled fundamentalist strain of Christianity that the GOP pushes and that is growing ever more powerful in the US is a deeply dangerous problem. Instead what was shown was deep contempt for all religion.

I am getting more and more disgusted with my fellow lizards.

365 Lidane  Wed, May 4, 2011 2:59:05pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Heh. I'm trying to figure out what the republicans are going to do. They have no viable candidates and almost no hope of winning the election. I guess they'll just pick any token candidate willing to run but I don't think they're even going to try very hard.

If the GOP have an ounce of self-preservation, they'll nominate a full wingnut teabagger and let them get curbstomped by Obama. Then they can clean house and get rid of the wingnuts and idiots and find an adult to run in 2016.

366 shutdown  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:00:16pm

re: #365 Lidane

If the GOP have an ounce of self-preservation, they'll nominate a full wingnut teabagger and let them get curbstomped by Obama. Then they can clean house and get rid of the wingnuts and idiots and find an adult to run in 2016.

File under: Wishful Thinking; Not Gonna Happen.

367 Lidane  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:01:33pm

re: #100 Charles

If you're on Twitter, please do me a favor and "Block and report as spam" this impersonator:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Done and done.

368 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:04:57pm

re: #364 LudwigVanQuixote

It is an extremely unfortunate post that rather reminds me of what my reason looks like after a pint of cheap whiskey and a 6 pack of cheaper beer. As a result I ignored it.

369 CuriousLurker  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:05:46pm

re: #336 zora

The author of the article is correct in saying Huckabee "responded with anger and a hint of menace". I don't like Huckabee. Never did, never will. His mask has slipped more than once.

What he said:

“Israel and Jewish people need to make friends, not insult the ones they have.”

What I heard:

"STFU, Jew boy. If you & your people know what's good for you, you'll apologize."

IMO, he's every bit as much of a supercilious asshole as Bryan Fischer, he just hides it better.

370 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:07:50pm

re: #364 LudwigVanQuixote

This issue is and was coercion.

Christ did not coerce people into believing in him.

371 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:08:13pm

re: #368 wlewisiii

It is an extremely unfortunate post that rather reminds me of what my reason looks like after a pint of cheap whiskey and a 6 pack of cheaper beer. As a result I ignored it.

Indeed. What will be more amusing will be to watch the normal concern police like wrenchwench down ding a simple statements of fact. But truth is less important to all too many here than perceived web-popularity.

The point of LGF has always been to be anti-idiotarian.

Yes wrench, than you for down dinging that. I just called you out as hypocrite number one.

372 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:09:08pm

re: #364 LudwigVanQuixote

WTF?

373 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:10:25pm

re: #370 EmmmieG

This issue is and was coercion.

Christ did not coerce people into believing in him.

Exactly. It is therefore unfair and ridiculous to compare mainstream protestants to $cientologists.

Don't get me wrong, as to the fundies, I have written many times about their many sins, but I do not believe they represent the whole of Christianity, despite what the Pat Robertson crowd might say.

374 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:10:46pm

re: #371 LudwigVanQuixote

Indeed. What will be more amusing will be to watch the normal concern police like wrenchwench down ding a simple statements of fact. But truth is less important to all too many here than perceived web-popularity.

The point of LGF has always been to be anti-idiotarian.

Yes wrench, than you for down dinging that. I just called you out as hypocrite number one.

what a bozo...can't you ever show up with a smile on your face you ass?
already spilling your selfish grudge all over yourself...at least there is the humor factor

375 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:12:29pm

re: #374 albusteve

Well Steve you are not hypocritical. You are consistent in your insults of me. That is OK, I despise you too and have for years. We should know where we stand.

376 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:13:58pm

re: #371 LudwigVanQuixote

If you spent the energy you spend on examining others for hypocrisy and purity on self-reflection about your own methods and actions, you would be a happier and more persuasive person.

377 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:14:23pm

re: #375 LudwigVanQuixote

Well Steve you are not hypocritical. You are consistent in your insults of me. That is OK, I despise you too and have for years. We should know where we stand.

I'm a fairly descent guy...you are an asshole
despising you is way beneath me, while your malformed hubris defines who you are...a difference you are to stupid to see

378 Wozza Matter?  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:16:06pm

Boring.

Headed upstairs.

379 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:17:14pm

re: #376 Obdicut

If you spent the energy you spend on examining others for hypocrisy and purity on self-reflection about your own methods and actions, you would be a happier and more persuasive person.

I am happy when I speak the truth Obdi.

Somewhere along the way truth became a question of politics here.

For example:

The Temple was always Jewish. That is true no matter what I say, or you say or what anyone thinks of it. You didn't need CL to say it was OK to say that.

380 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:17:48pm

re: #376 Obdicut

If you spent the energy you spend on examining others for hypocrisy and purity on self-reflection about your own methods and actions, you would be a happier and more persuasive person.

makes sense to most people that are not consumed by their own awsomeness

381 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:17:55pm

re: #364 LudwigVanQuixote

Fascinating Hypocrisy watch at LGF.

There is a much updinged and discussed post about $cientologists and how they should not be bashed because mainstream Protestants are worse.

That is not actually what the post said, no. It didn't say Scientology shouldn't be bashed. So that is a misrepresentation on your part. Furthermore, it didn't talk about mainstream protestantism-- it talked about "megachurch, prosperity gospel" forms of protestantism. So that characterization on your part is inaccurate. He furthermore talked about the problem in domestic politics being the socon protestant power structure, which is not only accurate but something that you've said on repeated occasions.

382 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:19:45pm

re: #379 LudwigVanQuixote

I never denied the Temple mount was Jewish, Ludwig. I don't know why you think I said. I just said that, although it's Jewish, the Dome of the Rock is Muslim. It's very odd for you to insist I said that it wasn't Jewish.

383 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:20:06pm

re: #379 LudwigVanQuixote

I am happy when I speak the truth Obdi.

Somewhere along the way truth became a question of politics here.

For example:

The Temple was always Jewish. That is true no matter what I say, or you say or what anyone thinks of it. You didn't need CL to say it was OK to say that.

Why won't you let this go LVQ?

Gah, I'm outta here.

384 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:21:07pm

re: #381 Obdicut

Scientology is no more or less valid than any so-con protestant megachurch, prosperity gospel, any arena preacher anywhere in America with the wide smile and the Republican social conservative talking points and the expensive capped teeth

...

The difference is, of course, we're all mostly protestants here.

Yes he points out that he is talking about GOP nastiness but makes clear he thinks that is most of Protestantism.

This was weak for you Obdi.

385 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:23:24pm

re: #371 LudwigVanQuixote

Indeed. What will be more amusing will be to watch the normal concern police like wrenchwench down ding a simple statements of fact. But truth is less important to all too many here than perceived web-popularity.

The point of LGF has always been to be anti-idiotarian.

Yes wrench, than you for down dinging that. I just called you out as hypocrite number one.

Sorry I had to ding and run. I'm multi-tasking.

Here. Have a shovel.

386 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:23:38pm

re: #382 Obdicut

I never denied the Temple mount was Jewish, Ludwig. I don't know why you think I said. I just said that, although it's Jewish, the Dome of the Rock is Muslim. It's very odd for you to insist I said that it wasn't Jewish.

No you just couldn't say it to clarify yourself until you thought it was safe. We both know I was pressing you for your stance. And for the record, the mosques are Muslim, but they have no right to be on someone else's holiest spot. Also, if the Greeks ever get Haigha Sophia back, they won't let that stay a mosque either.

387 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:24:07pm

re: #385 wrenchwench

Sorry I had to ding and run. I'm multi-tasking.

Here. Have a shovel.

That I have already bashed you with for your hypocrisy.

388 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:25:17pm

re: #386 LudwigVanQuixote

No you just couldn't say it to clarify yourself until you thought it was safe. We both know I was pressing you for your stance. And for the record, the mosques are Muslim, but they have no right to be on someone else's holiest spot. Also, if the Greeks ever get Haigha Sophia back, they won't let that stay a mosque either.

The mosques will stay where they are until Moshiach decides what to do with them.

389 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:26:20pm

re: #387 LudwigVanQuixote

That I have already bashed you with for your hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy: saying one thing and doing another.

Where did I do that?

390 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:26:47pm

re: #388 Alouette

The mosques will stay where they are until Moshiach decides what to do with them.

True, but in the mean time, we don't ever let anyone forget whose Temple that is.

391 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:27:01pm

re: #384 LudwigVanQuixote

No, he really doesn't. He points out what you have on many occasions, in actually a more limited fashion-- he talks about the protestant socon power structure as the real threat. He qualifies protestant with 'megachurch' or socon every time he speaks about it, except when he talks about how protestantism is more mainstream, therefore giving cover to its more extreme versions.

You were incorrect when you said he said that Scientology shouldn't be bashed, and you were incorrect when you said he was attacking protestantism in general.

re: #386 LudwigVanQuixote

No you just couldn't say it to clarify yourself until you thought it was safe.

But that's simply not true, Ludwig. You asked if I thought the temple mount was Jewish, and I responded in the affirmative long, long before CL said anything other than to tell you how deeply you'd offended her.

And for the record, the mosques are Muslim, but they have no right to be on someone else's holiest spot.

This is where we disagree. They have the right of antiquity and the right of religious importance. I disagree with you that religiously important monuments can't occupy the same space. That is the sum total of our disagreement, for which you accused me of turning my back on the Jewish people, which is an insult I will never, ever forgive.

392 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:27:42pm

re: #389 wrenchwench

Hypocrisy: saying one thing and doing another.

Where did I do that?

Well for one, where is your condemnation of a factually incorrect bashing of Protestantism that wrongly compares it to $cientology? Why were you not concerned for that broad brush?

393 tigger2005  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:27:53pm

Wow, I bet the stalkers are loving this exchange!

394 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:28:34pm

re: #392 LudwigVanQuixote

Well for one, where is your condemnation of a factually incorrect bashing of Protestantism that wrongly compares it to $cientology? Why were you not concerned for that broad brush?

No, no. Hypocrisy. Where did I do that?

395 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:29:02pm

re: #393 tigger2005

Wow, I bet the stalkers are loving this exchange!

I'll bet they are. One thing that differentiates us from them is that LGF generally despises groupthink. The stalkers are too dense to notice the difference.

396 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:29:09pm

re: #393 tigger2005

Wow, I bet the stalkers are loving this exchange!

LVQ is their biggest fan...a perpetual attention machine

397 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:29:37pm

re: #394 wrenchwench

No, no. Hypocrisy. Where did I do that?

Well for one you down dinged an anti-broadbrush post...

Are you now into broad brushes?

398 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:29:42pm

re: #392 LudwigVanQuixote

It doesn't actually compare it to Scientology. WUB points out that Scientology is an outsider group, with little political power, whereas protestant socons are well-entrenched.

399 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:30:03pm

re: #396 albusteve

Steve do you ever feel left out when I ignore you?

400 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:31:14pm

re: #398 Obdicut

It doesn't actually compare it to Scientology. WUB points out that Scientology is an outsider group, with little political power, whereas protestant socons are well-entrenched.

But his moral judgements represent a false equivalence. Coupled with all the other contempt he has for all religion, the intent was clear.

Weak Obdi.

401 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:31:22pm

re: #399 LudwigVanQuixote

Steve do you ever feel left out when I ignore you?

how could I when you don't?....you are getting hysterically stupid now
your cover was blown out long ago
so stop lying to yourself

402 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:33:37pm

re: #388 Alouette

The mosques will stay where they are until Moshiach decides what to do with them.

And given that Moshiach will rebuild the Third Temple, it makes pretty clear what he will do with them. They can't occupy the same spot.

403 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:34:48pm

re: #400 LudwigVanQuixote

But his moral judgements represent a false equivalence. Coupled with all the other contempt he has for all religion, the intent was clear.

Weak Obdi.

No, you're ignoring the actual intent of his essay, probably because you're fighting with him right now. Again, he always talked about the megachurches and the prosperity gospels or the Socons, pointing out that the former are a scam like Scientology and the latter politically powerful, unlike Scientology, and culturally powerful, unlike Scientology. The anti-gay propaganda of the Scientologists is terrible, but it is minute in volume compared to that coming from the socons.

I don't consider you a good judge of what is 'weak' or not, Ludwig. You really have lost a huge amount in my eyes by accusing me of turning my back on the Jewish people. You know how grave that insult is; you can't expect me to still respect you after you said that.

404 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:38:35pm

re: #397 LudwigVanQuixote

Well for one you down dinged an anti-broadbrush post...

Are you now into broad brushes?

Are you claiming that title for your #364? I don't see that as an "anti-broad-brush" post. I see it as an attack on a Page from a fellow commenter with whom you had a disagreement a few days ago, probably motivated at least in part by said disagreement. The down ding is for this part:

mainstream Protestants

and this part:

What an amazing piece of garbage this entire post is.

and this part:

I could go on, but so many here are so reality challenged it would not matter.

and this part:

This is relativist nonsense taken to its logical extreme coupled with the arrogance of someone who can not understand the need ofr a spiritual connection and spewing his own hatred of such things all while pretending falsely to be ohh so enlightened and tolerant. It is smug, arrogant and ignorant with a heavy dose of new-agey pap and patting oneself on the back for being ohh so enlightened.

and this part:

I am getting more and more disgusted with my fellow lizards.
405 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:43:37pm
406 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:46:34pm

re: #405 LudwigVanQuixote

An American would not let anyone else claim the Liberty Bell or the Statue of Liberty or the Washington monument und suddenly claim these as symbols some other nation.

We're not talking about any sudden event.


Any Jew who does not understand the centrality of the Temple to the people to the extent that he is OK with others just claiming the space for their own, has turned his back on the people.

What a very, very odd decision on your part. You really do seem to believe only religious Jews are actually Jews.

That's sad.

Oh Zionists of yesteryear, look at what has happened.


So yes, in fact, in absolute fact, you have turned your back on the People. Black people talk derisively about oreos. You are a ham bagel.

I don't think a racist slur is actually helpful at this point, Ludwig.

407 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:47:48pm

Sure didn't need a shovel from me. OMG, if an atheist may use that term....

408 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:53:21pm
409 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:54:36pm

re: #407 wrenchwench

Sure didn't need a shovel from me. OMG, if an atheist may use that term...

If an atheist used that term they would be just as correct as if they were castigating a Frenchman who claimed the Eiffel Tower was Chinese. Of course many French stopped caring about France long ago. Look where that has gotten them.

410 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:56:18pm

re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote

What sort of Jews are ok with giving away the center of our culture.

The ones who don't agree it's the center of our culture.

No Obdi I am saying that you are so disconnected from Judaism and so filled with contempt for the religion of Judaism

I don't have any contempt for Judaism. Earlier today, I wrote a post about how Judaism was a good religion because of its aspects of non-prosletyzing and recognition of the nature of rules as applying to the people, and not others.

I'm disagreeing with you about what Jewish identity is. It's a common debate among Jews.

Normally, we manage to refrain from getting personal about it.

411 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 3:58:29pm

re: #410 Obdicut

I'm also not okay with 'giving away' the temple mount. I think that it needs to be open to all worshipers, which is sadly impossible due to Muslim fanatics.

Somehow that becomes me giving it away, because I don't want to see the Dome of the Rock destroyed.

Is Alouette also a ham bagel now, according to you, since she's fine with the Dome of the Rock remaining there "until Moshiach decides what to do with them"?

If not, what's the difference between her and me?

412 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:02:36pm

re: #411 Obdicut

I'm also not okay with 'giving away' the temple mount. I think that it needs to be open to all worshipers, which is sadly impossible due to Muslim fanatics.

Somehow that becomes me giving it away, because I don't want to see the Dome of the Rock destroyed.

Is Alouette also a ham bagel now, according to you, since she's fine with the Dome of the Rock remaining there "until Moshiach decides what to do with them"?

If not, what's the difference between her and me?

The difference is that she knows who the Temple mount belongs to and does not go and claim the Muslims have any right to it.

They don't.

The difference is that she prays with every Amidah to restore the Temple.

The difference is that she has a son defending the land in the IDF.

The difference between you and me on this is, that I would be ok with the mosques if the sacrifice that was made by the people for peace were even recognized and we actually got peace. You don't even see it as a sacrifice.

413 bratwurst  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:03:08pm

re: #364 LudwigVanQuixote

I am getting more and more disgusted with my fellow lizards.

I don't think I would be going out on a limb to suggest the feeling is mutual.

414 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:04:01pm

re: #413 bratwurst

I don't think I would be going out on a limb to suggest the feeling is mutual.

Wow.. do you think that will make you more popular?

415 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:04:42pm

re: #412 LudwigVanQuixote

You don't even see it as a sacrifice.

I do, though. Why do you think I don't?

The difference is that she knows who the Temple mount belongs to and does not go and claim the Muslims have any right to it.

But I could say the exact same thing as her-- that the mosques should remain "until Moshiach decides what to do with them", and you would reject it from me. Why?

416 bratwurst  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:05:50pm

re: #414 LudwigVanQuixote

Wow.. do you think that will make you more popular?

I don't care. I just want you to know that I am embarrassed for you.

417 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:06:36pm

re: #416 bratwurst

I don't care. I just want you to know that I am embarrassed for you.

For speaking the truth? Fascinating...

418 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:07:53pm

re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote

NO you missed he point entirely. What sort of Jews are ok with giving away the center of our culture. Why do you think I mentioned the Liberty Bell? This goes beyond religion to the question of why what is of significance to us must matter less. Why should we put aside our national symbols for the stead of others?

No Obdi I am saying that you are so disconnected from Judaism and so filled with contempt for the religion of Judaism that you miss a nationalist argument when it hits you square in the face.

You then cluck about slurs when you are in reality slurring the whole People while taking umbrage of how connected you supposedly are.

You are a ham bagel.

Own it. It has nothing to do with how observant you are. It has to do with how little you care about Jewish symbols and Jewish culture and Jewish identity in general.

As to the sycophants supporting you - whatever.

I cannot believe your views and hostility are typically Jewish....if so, you and your people are fucked....you do them an injustice

419 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:09:32pm

re: #415 Obdicut

I do, though. Why do you think I don't?

But I could say the exact same thing as her-- that the mosques should remain "until Moshiach decides what to do with them", and you would reject it from me. Why?

Well mostly because as an avowed atheist, you don't believe in Moshiach and for you to say such a thing would be insulting.

Also, she is not unaware of the nationalist argument. She believes the religious argument supersedes the nationalist argument.

Both the religious and nationalist argument recognize the rights of Jews to Jewish things.

You see a Jewish spot as something for all worshipers. No Obdi. It is Jewish as the Vatican is Catholic or Mecca is Muslim, but only we are asked to pretend it is not - and only ham bagels don't see any problem with that.

420 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:09:59pm

re: #417 LudwigVanQuixote

Ludwig, I like you and I want you to stay here at LGF, so I am kindly telling you as your sweet old Lizard Mum,

KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF!

I hate to see you traveling on the road into Buzzsawmonkeyland.

So please do it for me as a Mother's Day gift.

Why don't you comment on my What Does the Book of Proverbs Say About Osama Bin Laden?

421 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:10:45pm

re: #418 albusteve

I cannot believe your views and hostility are typically Jewish...if so, you and your people are fucked...you do them an injustice

OK steve you just crossed the line from being a troll to being a total dick. Are you actually arguing that the center of Jewish culture for thousands of years isn't or that we have no right to it? Think carefully before you answer. I know you hate me, but if you say yes, that is open anti-semitism.

422 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:12:28pm

re: #420 Alouette

Ludwig, I like you and I want you to stay here at LGF, so I am kindly telling you as your sweet old Lizard Mum,

KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF!

I hate to see you traveling on the road into Buzzsawmonkeyland.

So please do it for me as a Mother's Day gift.

Why don't you comment on my What Does the Book of Proverbs Say About Osama Bin Laden?

Alouette, I am nothing like Buzzy.

But for the record. I will be damned if I let my desire to be poplar on a blog outweigh the simple truth that what is ors is ours and others really don't have a right to it.

423 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:14:34pm

re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote

Alouette, I am nothing like Buzzy.

But for the record. I will be damned if I let my desire to be poplar on a blog outweigh the simple truth that what is ors is ours and others really don't have a right to it.

You are picking fights with everybody and that does not help build the Beis Hamikdash.

424 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:14:56pm
425 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:16:49pm

re: #423 Alouette

You are picking fights with everybody and that does not help build the Beis Hamikdash.

Alouette, they don't even care what those words mean.

But you are correct. I have made my point and those who will hear it will hear it or not.

To continue will only diminish the point.

426 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:17:43pm

re: #419 LudwigVanQuixote

Well mostly because as an avowed atheist, you don't believe in Moshiach and for you to say such a thing would be insulting.

O-kay. The practical effect is rather the same. She's okay with them remaining on the site for an indefinite period of time. So am I.

You see a Jewish spot as something for all worshipers. No Obdi. It is Jewish as the Vatican is Catholic or Mecca is Muslim, but only we are asked to pretend it is not - and only ham bagels don't see any problem with that.

Yes, I think that Jews could be gracious and magnamious enough to allow Muslims to worship at the Dome of the Rock, even near the Holiest of Holies, because Jews are pretty awesomely tolerant. Unfortunately, the current state of radicalized Islam makes that impossible.

Somehow, my view of Jews as being that tolerant transforms itself into an insult to Jews to you.

Side note, again: Catholicism has a much more disparate idea of holiness. St. Peters and the church of the Laternan are holy sites, but in no way comparable to Mecca or to the Temple Mount.

I don't know why you think repeating 'ham bagel'-- which, again, is really unwise for you to say-- is going to have any effect on me. All it does is remove you as someone who's opinion I hold in high regard. You've said it once; as I said, it's not something I can ever forgive.

I understand how important Judaism is to you, and you normally bear it well and do credit to observant Jews. But the ugliness of rejecting other Jews because of your own definition of sufficient Jewish identity is an old, but still painful, scar.

Most of your characterizations of me have been incorrect. I don't have contempt for Judaism, I did say that the temple mount was Jewish before CuriousLurker did, and I'm not find with giving the Temple Mount away. Please ask yourself why, in order to attack me on this, it is necessary to misrepresent my positions.

427 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:20:59pm

re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote

Alouette, I am nothing like Buzzy.

But for the record. I will be damned if I let my desire to be poplar on a blog outweigh the simple truth that what is ors is ours and others really don't have a right to it.

you're worse than Buzz ever was....troll

428 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:22:40pm

re: #427 albusteve

you're worse than Buzz ever was...troll

That's not true. Ludwig's entirely sincere in this, and this is an old, old fight about Jewish identity.

I have no problem if someone thinks that only religious Jews fit their definition of Jews; I generally only ask that that person remains consistent, and doesn't then claim the works and deeds of any ethnic Jew who does not actually fit that definition.

Unfortunately, it rarely works that way.

429 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:25:46pm

re: #428 Obdicut

That's not true. Ludwig's entirely sincere in this, and this is an old, old fight about Jewish identity.

I have no problem if someone thinks that only religious Jews fit their definition of Jews; I generally only ask that that person remains consistent, and doesn't then claim the works and deeds of any ethnic Jew who does not actually fit that definition.

Unfortunately, it rarely works that way.

Buzz was a friendly, very smart guy and everybody liked him, til he blew up...
LVQ is in a constant state of angst and exceptionally unfriendly....the dumbass has no clue why I dislike him...he seems to think it's nothing he ever said to me....he's a troll and the sheen wore off long ago....I don't care about his sincerity, that was never the point

430 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:27:18pm

re: #428 Obdicut

That's not true. Ludwig's entirely sincere in this, and this is an old, old fight about Jewish identity.

I have no problem if someone thinks that only religious Jews fit their definition of Jews; I generally only ask that that person remains consistent, and doesn't then claim the works and deeds of any ethnic Jew who does not actually fit that definition.

Unfortunately, it rarely works that way.

I half thank you. You are correct about my sincerity. I am curious though why you don't see the nationalist argument of it or refuse to see it. This is not about observant or unobservant Jews.

We either respect our own national symbols and identity ourselves or we don't.

It is such a simple point that I am shocked it requires any explanation.

431 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:27:24pm
432 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:27:42pm

re: #429 albusteve

Buzz was a friendly, very smart guy and everybody liked him, til he blew up

That's not what I've heard.

I don't care about his sincerity, that was never the point

Trolls are insincere, it's kind of the point.

433 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:28:08pm
434 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:30:01pm
435 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:30:05pm
436 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:30:43pm

re: #430 LudwigVanQuixote

We either respect our own national symbols and identity ourselves or we don't.

I don't agree that it's a national symbol of such importance that we need to destroy the mosques on it or otherwise prevent Muslims from accessing it.

I think that the national identity of Israel is in the people of Israel, just as I think that the national identity of America is in Americans, not in the liberty bell, or the statue of liberty, or any other symbol. I think it's in the Constitution and the ideals of our land, but not in physical objects. They're not very important to me.

It is such a simple point that I am shocked it requires any explanation.

It doesn't need any explanation. I just disagree with you that destroying the mosques and fully occupying the Temple Mount and restricting access are necessary for Israeli national identity.

437 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:31:19pm
438 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:32:37pm
439 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:34:04pm

re: #222 simoom

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) interview -- photo release Qs:
[Link: www.boston.com...]

Damn dirty RINO!!!11ty

/wingnut jerkoffs

440 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:34:54pm

re: #436 Obdicut

I don't agree that it's a national symbol of such importance that we need to destroy the mosques on it or otherwise prevent Muslims from accessing it.

I think that the national identity of Israel is in the people of Israel, just as I think that the national identity of America is in Americans, not in the liberty bell, or the statue of liberty, or any other symbol. I think it's in the Constitution and the ideals of our land, but not in physical objects. They're not very important to me.

It doesn't need any explanation. I just disagree with you that destroying the mosques and fully occupying the Temple Mount and restricting access are necessary for Israeli national identity.

I am not saying that we should defacto destroy the mosques either. I am saying that we should have the sacrifice made to keep them there recognized and that if we are not getting peace for that sacrifice amongst many others, then there is no point in further sacrificing our own identity.

The space is not theirs.

We let them have it for peace.

We are not getting peace.

Simple simple statements.

441 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:35:21pm
442 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:36:31pm
443 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:37:04pm

The Rebbe, of Blessed Memory, constantly spoke of the need to rebuild the Temple, and he urged every Jew to take an active role in its reconstruction.

Did he tell Jews to storm the Temple Mount and tear down the Dome of the Rock with their bare hands?

Not at all.

He urged every one to perform mitzvos, light Sabbath candles, put on tefillin, study the Scriptures and the Talmud and works of Hasidism, keep kosher, observe the festivals, give tzedakah (charity), love your neighbor as yourself. He urged everyone, Jews and non-Jews to uphold justice and perform acts of kindness.

This is how we rebuild the Temple.

Brick by brick.

444 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:39:08pm

re: #440 LudwigVanQuixote

I am not saying that we should defacto destroy the mosques either

You did, though, at one point, right?

I am saying that we should have the sacrifice made to keep them there recognized and that if we are not getting peace for that sacrifice amongst many others, then there is no point in further sacrificing our own identity.

I don't think that their presence there represents a sacrifice of identity. In fact, I think destroying them would destroy a part of Jewish identity; the history of when Jerusalem was overrun. It's not a happy part of Jewish history, but it did happen. It'd be wonderful if Muslims in the Middle East progressed to a point where they were thankful for the sacrifice of Jews allowing them to stand, instead of demanding more, but that is, for the moment, a pipe dream.

We let them have it for peace.

We are not getting peace.

But 'them' isn't just the radicals. Those spots are holy to the moderate Muslims as well. That's a large part of the problem with your argument.

And again:


Most of your characterizations of me have been incorrect. I don't have contempt for Judaism, I did say that the temple mount was Jewish before CuriousLurker did, and I'm not find with giving the Temple Mount away. Please ask yourself why, in order to attack me on this, it is necessary to misrepresent my positions.

445 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:39:55pm

re: #313 Gus 802

Pardon my French but fuck. What a scumbag.

Beck: Obama's "Victory Lap" At Ground Zero Is "Obscene," "Grotesque"

What's his problem? He had a damn marching band!

446 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:40:34pm
447 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:44:18pm

re: #444 Obdicut

And taking it down now is implied from what I just wrote. The entire Palestinian policy is that Jews have no right to Jewish holy sites at all. Do recall that this started when a Jewish man was murdered for praying at a Jewish site.

We get none of the respect that others demand.

We are not getting our bargain out of it, and since that is the case, then to hell with them.

Do recall that just today the PA and Hamas, the democratically elected governments reconciled themselves by deciding to murder more Jews.

448 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:46:15pm

re: #443 Alouette

The Rebbe, of Blessed Memory, constantly spoke of the need to rebuild the Temple, and he urged every Jew to take an active role in its reconstruction.

Did he tell Jews to storm the Temple Mount and tear down the Dome of the Rock with their bare hands?

Not at all.

He urged every one to perform mitzvos, light Sabbath candles, put on tefillin, study the Scriptures and the Talmud and works of Hasidism, keep kosher, observe the festivals, give tzedakah (charity), love your neighbor as yourself. He urged everyone, Jews and non-Jews to uphold justice and perform acts of kindness.

This is how we rebuild the Temple.

Brick by brick.

And one of those mitzvot is to love the people. To say that an alien force has a right to our most sacred spot or to keep us from it is to fail that mitzvah.

449 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:47:05pm

re: #447 LudwigVanQuixote

I have no idea what anything in your post had to do with mine.

We are not getting our bargain out of it, and since that is the case, then to hell with them.

Who is 'them'? You are acting as though the only Muslims in the world are Palestinians and the enemies of Israel around it, as though there are no moderate Muslims who would be affected by the loss of the Dome of the Rock.


Do recall that just today the PA and Hamas, the democratically elected governments reconciled themselves by deciding to murder more Jews.

Why on earth do you think you need to remind me of that? What on earth does my not thinking the Temple Mount needs to be exclusively Jewish have to do with knowing that both PA and Hamas call for the destruction of Israel?

And again:


Most of your characterizations of me have been incorrect. I don't have contempt for Judaism, I did say that the temple mount was Jewish before CuriousLurker did, and I'm not find with giving the Temple Mount away. Please ask yourself why, in order to attack me on this, it is necessary to misrepresent my positions.

450 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:48:25pm
451 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:48:50pm

re: #448 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #449 Obdicut

I hate to see two of my favorite posters fighting.
Worth what you paid for the opinion!

452 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:49:00pm

re: #445 SanFranciscoZionist

What's his problem? He had a damn marching band!

And he didn't even give the order to kill the guy!

453 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:50:08pm

re: #450 albusteve

Um, "Wrath of God" is three words,
and was a pretty sick poster, at one time.

454 allegro  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:50:09pm

re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist

And he didn't even give the order to kill the guy!

Perhaps that's why he's being so pissy. HE wants to be Master of the Universe!

455 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:50:44pm

re: #449 Obdicut

Obdi, I was clear from the start I was talking about the Palestinians and their various masters.

Muslims pray towards Mecca. They do not pray towards Jerusalem. The mosques there were not particularly special until they became a political focus with the birth of Israel. Everyone knows this. So of course on the Muslim end it is a political and Palestinian issue.

Honestly though, even if every Muslim in the world shouted that the Temple mount was theirs, it would not make it so any more than every Chinese claiming Big Ben.

456 albusteve  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:52:52pm

re: #453 Floral Giraffe

Um, "Wrath of God" is three words,
and was a pretty sick poster, at one time.

he went nuts one time...I was there, he was posting to me when he was banned...it was shocking

457 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:53:16pm

re: #453 Floral Giraffe

Um, "Wrath of God" is three words,
and was a pretty sick poster, at one time.

Steve never was very good at counting. He isn't very smart. He will do anything to make a flame war of this. He just isn't relevant enough.

458 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:55:40pm

And now I am out for the evening. I hope everyone has a good night.

459 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:56:03pm

re: #455 LudwigVanQuixote

Obdi, I was clear from the start I was talking about the Palestinians and their various masters.

I know. My point is, you're talking about sites holy to all Muslims, not just to them. You're ignoring this point.


Muslims pray towards Mecca. They do not pray towards Jerusalem. The mosques there were not particularly special until they became a political focus with the birth of Israel. Everyone knows this. So of course on the Muslim end it is a political and Palestinian issue.

There can be more than one holy site for a religion. You're wrong that it wasn't very important before the birth of Israel. There's no real other way to say it; it was an important holy site to Muslims since Saladin, at least. I don't know why you think otherwise.


Honestly though, even if every Muslim in the world shouted that the Temple mount was theirs, it would not make it so any more than every Chinese claiming Big Ben.

The Dome of the Rock is theirs, though. Which is on the Temple Mount. So, in the end, it's not as simple as 'ours' or 'theirs'.

And again:


Most of your characterizations of me have been incorrect. I don't have contempt for Judaism, I did say that the temple mount was Jewish before CuriousLurker did, and I'm not find with giving the Temple Mount away. Please ask yourself why, in order to attack me on this, it is necessary to misrepresent my positions.

You have yet to acknowledge that you were mistaken in any of that. That's unfortunate.

460 [deleted]  Wed, May 4, 2011 4:56:49pm
461 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 4, 2011 5:00:34pm

re: #457 LudwigVanQuixote

Be well & do happy things. You know why.

462 wrenchwench  Wed, May 4, 2011 5:10:20pm

re: #459 Obdicut

Pssst:

and I'm not find with giving the Temple Mount away

Since it's reusable, it's worth fixing.

463 Ming  Wed, May 4, 2011 5:26:52pm

"It's part of the mission." It's amazing how much of her psychology Sarah Palin reveals, with her word salads. Wow. She fantasizes that she's in the military. And, no doubt, she fantasizes that Katie Couric, quavering with fear, is interviewing Sarah "Barracuda" Palin, the leader of Seal Team Six.

John McCain really should apologize publicly for his failure to properly vet Ms. Palin, before he chose her for his running mate. Even as we celebrate our military's achievements, as we should, it is an uncomfortable truth that Sarah Palin came close to real political power in 2008, and may be on the ticket (either Pres or Vice Pres) in 2012. Until America moves beyond this farce, this vulnerability is there for the whole world to see, and I'm not happy about it.

464 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 4, 2011 5:48:25pm

re: #442 LudwigVanQuixote

You sure this isn't about your ego Stevo?

You sure this whole exchange between you and everyone else in the mix isn't about your ego, Ludwig? Your doggedness and tenacity serve you well most of the time, but you're being more than a bit illogical about all this.

For example, WTF is up with the "ham bagel" slam you're throwing at Obdi? If that's your idea of calling him a Jew "oreo", then you've lost what respect I have for you, because slurs like that aren't right, no matter who says it or who it's against. As for your position that, more or less, Muslims should be denied access to the Dome of the Rock because Jews were there first at the Temple Mount and because some Muslims would like to ground Israel to ash, it's patently absurd and, in my opinion, borderline bigotry.

At this point, you probably don't give two shits about what I think of you, but I am sorely disappointed in you, because I know you can do and be better than that.

465 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 5:58:43pm

re: #364 LudwigVanQuixote

I am getting more and more disgusted with my fellow lizards.

That's pretty obvious, and maybe you should decide whether you want to continue putting up with them. Because I don't need this shit, and I'll make the decision if you don't.

466 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 4, 2011 6:03:28pm

re: #403 Obdicut

No, you're ignoring the actual intent of his essay, probably because you're fighting with him right now. Again, he always talked about the megachurches and the prosperity gospels or the Socons, pointing out that the former are a scam like Scientology and the latter politically powerful, unlike Scientology, and culturally powerful, unlike Scientology. The anti-gay propaganda of the Scientologists is terrible, but it is minute in volume compared to that coming from the socons.

I don't consider you a good judge of what is 'weak' or not, Ludwig. You really have lost a huge amount in my eyes by accusing me of turning my back on the Jewish people. You know how grave that insult is; you can't expect me to still respect you after you said that.

Actually, I would hope you would. Respect comes not from thinking that a man is perfect; that's not going to happen. It comes from recognition that whatever faults he may have, whatever wrong he may have done you, he has good points that are just too good to set aside.

Ludwig has damned me most vigorously. I'm hurt, but I still respect him. Intemperate side notwithstanding.

467 Obdicut  Wed, May 4, 2011 6:05:45pm

re: #466 lostlakehiker

I can respect him in the same way I respect Semmelweis, if Semmelweisalso used racial slurs.

468 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Wed, May 4, 2011 6:09:08pm

re: #467 Obdicut

I can respect him in the same way I respect Semmelweis, if Semmelweisalso used racial slurs.

That my friend was the 'it' moment. When he became not pious, not good, just like everyone else. Fake.

469 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 6:38:00pm

looks like a tornado hit this place.

470 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 4, 2011 6:38:40pm

re: #469 windsagio

looks like a tornado hit this place.

More like an H-bomb...

471 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 6:56:27pm

re: #465 Charles

That's pretty obvious, and maybe you should decide whether you want to continue putting up with them. Because I don't need this shit, and I'll make the decision if you don't.

Charles, I am more than a little shocked to see you write this.

As far as I am concerned here the issue is whether or not any religious group has a right to stake a claim to another religious group's holiest sites over the objections of that first group.

There is nothing more to it than that in this discussion. Yes the various discussions have spiraled all over the place the past several days, but this is really the core. A sacrifice for peace yielded no peace, and by claiming that others have rights to the sacrifice ignores the existence of it in the first place.

I am offended by people saying that anyone else has a right to my holiest spot. Even without the religious aspect, there is the national point that if we Jews ourselves do not care about the symbols of our culture, how can we expect others to?

I understand why the state of Israel did not remove the mosques. I understand the vain hope that this would bring peace as well as a certain secular/religious split in the Jewish people.

I am offended that I am being called all sorts of names because others here demand I have to accept false claims. I have seen people I thought were friends be appalled that I should claim such a simple thing - something that everyone knows is true.

But that is not the point.

Right now I am asking you man to man, friend to friend as someone who has spent many hours sticking up for you and never failed to do so, Are you denying my right to be offended at this? Why should my people just lump it? Why are our claims less than others in our own land at our most sacred spot? This is the sub context of the message here.

Apparently to claim that the Temple is Jewish property alone makes me Kahanist and like Pam Gellar and a "fake." On the contrary, it makes me honest. I would argue that a church built on Mecca had no right to be there either.

I am asking if you are enforcing a certain denial of the truth because it is currently not popular with some posters.

I can not believe you honestly are telling me that. And if you are telling me that, I don't want to be here, no matter how many friends I have here or how much I have enjoyed posting through the years.

472 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:00:22pm

re: #465 Charles

I also don't believe you are telling me that the claims of my people are secondary.

473 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:00:44pm

Meaning I do not believe that was your intent.

474 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:01:03pm

re: #471 LudwigVanQuixote

The basic problem is that you're the kind of guy who when dissagreed with, escalates.

I can't really think you believe half the things you say on this blog, but you get so worked up that just anything comes out of your mouth. Or I hope so, because if you DO believe it... well damn.

Remember we're guests.

475 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:03:00pm

re: #474 windsagio

Well then you do me a fabulous disservice.

Why would I not believe that a national Jewish symbol - arguably the national Jewish symbol is the sole property of Jews? Why would you doubt my sincerity?

476 windsagio  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:11:55pm

re: #475 LudwigVanQuixote

Because I don't want to believe you're a racist fuck that thinks Palestinians are animals and pakistanis are scum that don't think like us unless they manage to educate themselves out of their culture.

I want to think well of you, but you say the craziest things.

477 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:16:02pm

re: #475 LudwigVanQuixote

I don't believe that anyone here, doubts your sincerity, or your passion.
Just your style, at times.
May I gently remind you of the first rule of holes?
*smooch*

478 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:24:46pm

re: #476 windsagio

Because I don't want to believe you're a racist fuck that thinks Palestinians are animals and pakistanis are scum that don't think like us unless they manage to educate themselves out of their culture.

I want to think well of you, but you say the craziest things.

OK so first off, I have never ever said that Pakistanis were scum.

So hopefully that is off of your plate.

That sounds like something WUB would say I said. Of course calling me a racist is particularly crass and vile. I write endlessly on the horrible racism of the modern GOP and you cheer. I despise racism and always have. What is it ok for the PA to be racist? Is it racist of me to point out that certain protected racists are racist?

As to the Palestinians, well their democratically elected government just re-avowed perpetual war with Israel. Read the posts from today about the "reconcilement" between the PA and Hamas.

The Palestinian's elected government has the genocide of all Jews in its charter. What should I call them?

The nice terrorists of the PA murdered a Jew who dared to pray at Joseph's tomb and then burnt the site.

Then there is the murder of the Foegel family. Sweets were passed out to celebrate.

What exactly do you expect me to call a medieval culture that revels in murder?

While we are at, it shall we discuss their treatment of women and gay people? Shall we discuss how they cheer when they launch rockets indiscriminantly day after day at civilians?

Somehow when I go and call the modern GOP up and up evil (and they are) that is ok, but pointing out these evils and being equally appalled is not?

I consider all hateful racist groups evil - and trying hard for genocide and putting it in your actual charter is pretty racist no?

479 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:25:40pm

re: #476 windsagio

Or are you saying that believing that the Temple belongs solely to the Jews is racist?

480 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:25:45pm

re: #471 LudwigVanQuixote

I'm not going to be dragged into this mess. I'm simply telling you that you're alienating a lot of people with your posts. People who would otherwise be your friends, but you're losing your way, and you don't see it.

You're creating a lot of extra work for me, because you refuse to back down off the ledge, and it's getting very wearisome.

And I'm reaching the limit of how much I'm willing to put up with.

481 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:29:16pm

re: #480 Charles

I'm not going to be dragged into this mess. I'm simply telling you that you're alienating a lot of people with your posts. People who would otherwise be your friends, but you're losing your way, and you don't see it.

You're creating a lot of extra work for me, because you refuse to back down off the ledge, and it's getting very wearisome.

And I'm reaching the limit of how much I'm willing to put up with.

It is your blog. I fully accept that you need to keep the peace. I'll let this issue slide for now since I am pretty sure that I've stated my position as much as it will be heard.

482 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:35:10pm

re: #471 LudwigVanQuixote

it's not about the temple. it's about unadulterated assholery. it's not new. when you're "on" you're clever and funny. when you're not, it's like a dog farted and it stinks up the thread.

483 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:39:09pm

re: #479 LudwigVanQuixote

Or are you saying that believing that the Temple belongs solely to the Jews is racist?

Maybe not racist, but given the history of what has been and is on the Temple Mount site, certainly bigoted. Palestinians do not represent all Muslims, just as Israelis do not represent all Jews...and you know it. The Temple Mount may be Judaism's most holy place, but the Dome of the Rock has it's place, just as any Christian churches or sites in Jerusalem (and throughout Israel) do.

It'd be nice for anyone to not be squabbling over the matter, either here or in Israel, but human nature is what it is and I don't see the human race improving to that point any time soon, unfortunately.

484 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:40:00pm

re: #482 zora

it's not about the temple. it's about unadulterated assholery. it's not new. when you're "on" you're clever and funny. when you're not, it's like a dog farted and it stinks up the thread.

I really was going to let this slide but for the record, not letting others have what is ours and central to our culture is not a dog fart and to hell with you for daring to imply otherwise. If it is not theirs to take it is certainly not yours to give away for us.

485 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:40:53pm

re: #483 talon_262

Maybe not racist, but given the history of what has been and is on the Temple Mount site, certainly bigoted. Palestinians do not represent all Muslims, just as Israelis do not represent all Jews...and you know it. The Temple Mount may be Judaism's most holy place, but the Dome of the Rock has it's place, just as any Christian churches or sites in Jerusalem (and throughout Israel) do.

It'd be nice for anyone to not be squabbling over the matter, either here or in Israel, but human nature is what it is and I don't see the human race improving to that point any time soon, unfortunately.

Guys, I just promised Charles I was going to let this drop. Pretty shitty of you to fire broadsides afterwords.

486 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:42:01pm

re: #485 LudwigVanQuixote

Yes, but you should just let it slide.
Please?
Shitty behavior on the intertoobes?
Shocka!
///not///

487 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:42:01pm

re: #483 talon_262

re: #485 LudwigVanQuixote

My apologies, as I am at work and didn't refresh the thread...if you're done, I'm done.

488 zora  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:43:40pm

re: #484 LudwigVanQuixote

again. it's not about the temple. it's your delivery. no matter the subject. i understand your faith. it's your delivery. really.

489 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, May 4, 2011 7:48:09pm

re: #488 zora

And...we're done.

Seriously, we're done...everyone's said their piece and Ludwig's told Charles he'd drop it.

Everyone going upstairs?

490 SidewaysQuark  Thu, May 5, 2011 6:40:08am

re: #307 Dreggas

Since when was Malloy running for president or a former candidate for vice president? Is he ever on national TV as a supposed "respected" commentator? Does he have an audience of millions? Does he have a TV network he can go on that spews the same thing?

magical balance fairy is not amused.

No, but I'd put him on the level of Jim d'Hooft (DERP) or Pamela Geller - these aren't household names to most people, either.

Like I said, the Right is far more odious than the Left, now, but to totally ignore the idiocy on the Left isn't fair, either.


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