Image via ShutterstockAs I write this the candidates are giving their closing statements, so here’s another thread to discuss what we just saw.
As Bernie Sanders just said, “On our worst day I think we have a lot more to offer the American people than the right wing extremists today.” Amen.
Clinton close: “On Jan. 20, 2017, the next president of the United States” will take office. GOP win would put all Dem gains at risk.
— BuzzFeed Politics (@BuzzFeedPol) December 20, 2015
“May the Force be with you!”
HA!
It was with her.
Clinton’s closing statement #starwars #demdebate #nprdebate pic.twitter.com/kPCtOoFG9V
— NPR Politics (@nprpolitics) December 20, 2015
Very true. Stephanopolus just said Trump was the only GOP candidate mentioned tonight. Scary.
Bernie was stronger than he has been in previous debates but I think Hillary came out the winner.
Marty, go home.
By an odd coincidence, Jim Webb is vacuuming my floor at this very minute. Hey, gotta pay the rent.
And guess I’m going to have to bill him for garroting my goldfish during what he called “a ‘Nam flashback.”
Should I call 911?
From here it looks like Bernie could well be the conscience of the party, but HRC is the candidate.
What are the chances Bernie gets an economic policy position in a Clinton Whitehouse…..
re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus
What are the chances Bernie gets an economic policy position in a Clinton Whitehouse…..
None.
Hillary was more polished - her mentioning Market Basket hit home in New Hampshire.
It is a shame I could not watch the debate. ABC’s streaming will not work through my telephone company’s DSL. (Curious, the Republican debates worked just fine.)
I am very disappointed that the DNC chose to hold debates at obscure times like a Saturday night before Christmas.
My county party did not support me for my re-election to my city council (I am the only Democrat elected in my county), the state party won’t talk to me, and the national party hides its debates. In a fundraising call (the only time the party contacts me), I noted I will not give to the party until it cleans this mess up; I only give directly to candidates.
Well, one person showed up to watch, so I did and couldn’t be online at the same time. Going to go back to read the last thread, but just wanted to say that after watching the shitshow the other night and then the reasoned intelligent conversation tonight, anyone who would vote for ANY of the Republican candidates is a fool.
Back in a bit—going to see what you all had to say during the debate.
“@twister2445: @realDonaldTrump all I heard from the debate is a pathway to citizenship for all and taking our guns away. #tryme!!”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2015
True fact: After @HillaryClinton said “and may the force be with you” the other campaigns whipped their speech writers with a car antenna.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) December 20, 2015
Chris Christie celebrating tonight’s pizza delivery. 30 minutes or less baby!re: #15 jaunte
Dems were talking above a 4th grade level, so im not suprised the donald didnt catch much.
re: #15 jaunte
“@twister2445: @realDonaldTrump all I heard from the debate is a pathway to citizenship for all and taking our guns away. #tryme!!”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2015
Someone becomes a citizen, which enables them to buy all the guns they want — what’s the problem here?
So Hillary made a Star Wars joke? Ted Cruz force choked three subordinates before breakfast today.
— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) December 20, 2015
ICYMI: Kurt Masur, widely regarded as one of the world’s greatest conductors, has died in the US at the age of 88.
Is O’Malley actually campaigning anywhere? Does he have money? I can’t believe he is still in this race.
Repeating this from the previous thread.
I’m still dealing with a balky network connection here at the university, and after updating my router’s firmware and even bypassing it to hook my laptop directly to the network, I’ve decided the problem is with the university network, and not my equipment. My neighbors report the same problems as I have.
I am suspecting there is a DHCP problem, or maybe a DNS problem. You network wonks can help me here.
When I first connect, everything goes well. Quick page loads, download times, etc. Then after about 10-15 minutes, connectivity bogs down. Pages stop loading, or there are time-out errors. The IM client on my phone loses its network connection on WiFi. If I keep trying to reload a page, eventually it will load, but it takes about 6 tries for something to happen.
But, if I enter my router’s UI and request a new IP address from DHCP, everything goes back to normal again. For another 10-15 minutes or so.
Hooking my laptop to the campus network made no difference, except it’s not as easy in Windows to request a new IP address. So, I’m using my router again.
The connection is PPPoE and they just rewired the building with CAT5 two years ago. Brand new switches and stuff in the cabinet downstairs, too. Last month, the campus IT department was reconfiguring the network and that’s when things started to go weird. Last month, the problem was wonky DNS connections that affected page loads but not other network functions. This month, it’s the DHCP weirdness.
Can any of you experts guess what’s wrong? I want to be intelligent when I explain the situation to the IT dept. Thanks!
PS I should add that using my VPN seems to eliminate some of the connectivity issues.
re: #23 b.d.
Is O’Malley actually campaigning anywhere? Does he have money? I can’t believe he is still in this race.
I’m in Baltimore for the holidays and that’s the $64 question here.
re: #5 Major Tom
Very true. Stephanopolus just said Trump was the only GOP candidate mentioned tonight. Scary.
He’s the perfect whipping boy for the Democrats. Obviously it helps him as well, so I’m sure he loved it.
re: #25 De Kolta Chair
I’m in Baltimore for the holidays and that’s the $64 question here.
He won’t last past NH is my guess.
From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund:
“May the force be with you.” You know, the Sith used the force, too.
re: #27 Big Beautiful Door
He won’t last past NH is my guess.
I agree, and I love how he hitched his star to the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, who suck farts out of dead rats.
Life is good, my friend.
Oh wait, I got O’Malley and Christie mixed up. Sorry ‘bout dat. ;-)
And life is still good.
re: #28 Eric The Fruit Bat
From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund:
Well, they didn’t have to bother with well wishes…they just took what they wanted.
Hm. Applicability to Republicans still holds….
re: #28 Eric The Fruit Bat
From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund:
Yeah, but all the Sith talked about was the dark side of the Force.
re: #34 goddamnedfrank
Linked article is from August.
That’s what I get for posting a teabagger tweet. I’ll delete it.
Well, I guess I will have to read about the debate on Websites like this one, and in my very conservative newspaper in the morning. Too bad the candidates won’t come within five hundred miles of the Nebraska Panhandle.
re: #35 retired cynic
Pink Tie.
And a pink carnation
Not implicating Marty with the Tea Baggers. Marty was cool.
re: #36 b.d.
Checked out the guy who posted that tweet and he is an anti-Trump, #tcot posting teabagger.
So which Clown Car passenger do those types back instead? Cruz? (truth be told, this is the main thing that’s baffling me about Trump’s popularity with the GOP base - he lacks the proper fundy credentials)
I’ve never looked at #tcot before. (I am not on Twitter and rarely look there.) Holy cow, what a cesspool of fear, fascism, and derp.
re: #40 Interesting Times
So which Clown Car passenger do those types back instead? Cruz? (truth be told, this is the main thing that’s baffling me about Trump’s popularity with the GOP base - he lacks the proper fundy credentials)
He’s created a split between the racists and the fundy’s.
SNL: Cecily Strong as Carly Fiorina:
“I am tough on Putin. I sold him an HP printer, and it did not work”
re: #44 CleverToad
Or a pink crustacean
That brings me back! ;^)>
Notice there were no questions during the debates about autoharps????
These look like commie Bernie Sanders supporters to me. //
Good evening folks. I missed it. Got out and far away from the internets today with the wife and cameras. You guys might enjoy these as a beauty break from matters serious.
Always thought Bernie Sanders is the right guy to help shape the Dem platform, give HRC room to move away from the big corps and the DNC agenda in favor of a more populist/moderate platform. But hey this indy ain’t no expert on party machinations. No matter where I slept last night.
Goleta Moon
Glimmersre: #45 jaunte
SNL: Cecily Strong as Carly Fiorina:
“I am tough on Putin. I sold him an HP printer, and it did not work”
Or a Compaq computer, which did not work.
I know a few of you are sick and tired of hearing about Chuck, but he has posted a photo of his HAW on FB. She’s a looker, and he looks smug. That is all.
re: #3 b.d.
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I have seen it argued on Twitter that Hillary is basically just a major nerd about everything, including politics. I haven’t looked at her the same way since.
These “Hateful 8” commercials should be on more often during Republican debates #DemDebate
— Iowa Starting Line (@IAStartingLine) December 20, 2015
re: #50 Pawn of the Oppressor
I have seen it argued on Twitter that Hillary is basically just a major nerd about everything, including politics. I haven’t looked at her the same way since.
Mrs. Clinton never struck me as a nerd. Perhaps I missed the pocket protector in her suit.
re: #50 Pawn of the Oppressor
I have seen it argued on Twitter that Hillary is basically just a major nerd about everything, including politics. I haven’t looked at her the same way since.
I once read a tweet about how Cameron Mitchell was a much better actor than Marlon Brando. That was weird.
Sady Doyle was the writer. She’s a Hillary supporter and pretty harsh on Bernie fanboys, too. Her angle was that H. is basically a dorky policy wonk at the core. I found the idea interesting.
OT - saw Star Wars today. Well worth seeing in the theatre (3D, not IMAX); will buy the Blu-Ray for this one, unlike Eps I-III which I never wanted to watch twice. The 17-year-old approved, says it successfully avoided prequelitis. Spouse and I both liked it; amusing to see Han & Leia as old farts, being one meself.
When I saw the original in 1977 (14 times), I said it was a great popcorn movie. This one is too. Suffers a bit from first-in-a-trilogy syndrome, threads dangling all over the ending, but c’est le guerre. Looking forward to watching the second one when it comes out.
He’s a Cruz lapdog again. I’m surprised he hasn’t latched on to The Donald™ and his white supremacy.
re: #51 BeachDem
These “Hateful 8” commercials should be on more often during Republican debates #DemDebate
— Iowa Starting Line (@IAStartingLine) December 20, 2015
I like Tarantino’s flicks, but as a mystery fan I especially like how this one looks like a classic locked room mystery. which I’m a sucker for. Add the western element, and my heart throb Jennifer Jason Leigh, and I’m there tomorrow.
re: #57 De Kolta Chair
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I like Tarantino’s flicks, but as a mystery fan I especially like how this one looks like a classic locked room mystery. which I’m a sucker for.
Great cast; I’m looking forward to it.
re: #58 Big Beautiful Door
Great cast; I’m looking forward to it.
Great cast indeed, and as I amended to my comment, Jennifer Jason “Be Still My Heart” Leigh. Haven’t seen her in a while. A terrific actor when she has a good part, and this one looks good.
re: #56 teleskiguy
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He’s a Cruz lapdog again. I’m surprised he hasn’t latched on to The DonaldTM and his white supremacy.
I don’t get his worship of Cruz at all. Maybe it’s Cruz’ Ivy League credentials that impresses Chuck. Cruz as president would be a disaster, and it would give his wacko father access to the White House. That should give anyone pause to reflect.
As is so typical in America, the first local news story after the debate was a murder-suicide at a workplace in Winchester, Ky. Apparently an office romance gone wrong.
re: #59 De Kolta Chair
I read a piece about how JJ Abrams eschewed overuse of CGI in Star Wars VII, to give the actors something concrete to interact with. Likewise, Tarantino refrigerated an entire set so the vapor of the actors’ breath would look real on camera, and they would be more immersed in the scene.
re: #60 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Cruz is probably too creepy to be widely popular.
re: #63 jaunte
Cruz is probably too creepy to be widely popular.
Yeah, his likability is near absolute zero, even within his own party.
re: #63 jaunte
Cruz is probably too creepy to be widely popular.
Plus he wants a big tax increase on retired people to pay for tax cuts for the 1%. Hillary will kill him with that if he is the nominee.
.@jonkarl was totally misled, and he fell for it, that Hillary wants to run against me. She knows that I am her worst nightmare-Jon doesn’t!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2015
re: #62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I read a piece about how JJ Abrams eschewed overuse of CGI in Star Wars VII, to give the actors something concrete to interact with. Likewise, Tarantino refrigerated an entire set so the vapor of the actors’ breath would look real on camera, and they would be more immersed in the scene.
Interesting. Orson Welles filmed this great scene of The Magnificent Ambersons literally in an ice house in sunny Los Angeles, in good part to catch the effect of the actors’ breathes.
Pursuant to my comment about my network issues, I will note that I’ve had my VPN running for an hour and have had no connection problems at all. So, clearly something is screwed up with my campus network.
Annnd, this is what Newsweek takes from the debate (complete with an Edward Snowden tweet) Spit.
Democrats echo GOP on encryption during New Hampshire debate
Yeah, I certainly heard the Dems call it “our Internet” and say we should “penetrate” it and shit like “I sure as hell don’t want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our internet” Sure, exactly the same . Ugh.
Don’t know if you guys heard what with all the other Trump related stupid going on all the time, but Donald Trump got telt to “go away an bile his heid” this week by the UK Supreme Court. He was trying to tell the Scottish people that we couldn’t have an offshore windfarm in sight of his golf course because it would spoil the view.
re: #68 De Kolta Chair
Interesting. Orson Welles filmed this great scene of The Magnificent Ambersons in an ice house in sunny Los Angeles.
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Old school, literally.
Apparently, it’s now possible to add in cold weather breath vapor clouds in post-processing. The actors then get to work in normal room temperature sets dressed up like Eskimos, pretending to be cold while actually sweating bullets under their clothes. Putting them in low-temperature sets makes the whole scene more realistic, and IMO as an amateur, easier to act in.
And again, Newsweek deliberates the REALLY important takeaways from the debate:
Where did Hillary Clinton go during the commercial break?
In the definitive odd moment of Saturday night’s Democratic debate, Clinton was missing for a few seconds after ABC resumed the debate following the first commercial break of the event…
Did she have to go to the bathroom? Did she have a wardrobe malfunction or some problem in the backstage? We probably will not know until after the debate.
rawstory.com
I know I’m holding my breath in anticipation of the answer to this important question.
re: #66 bratwurst
That hair, or whatever it is, needs a fascistectomy.
re: #62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I read a piece about how JJ Abrams eschewed overuse of CGI in Star Wars VII, to give the actors something concrete to interact with. Likewise, Tarantino refrigerated an entire set so the vapor of the actors’ breath would look real on camera, and they would be more immersed in the scene.
This reminds me of Terence Stamp’s comments on filming Episode 1. This is from an article dated 2013, but I remember reading a much longer quote while the film was still in pre-production.
So why did he do the movie in the first place? Two answers: pressure from his agent and his desire to work with Natalie Portman, who impressed him with her performance in Luc Besson’s The Professional. But when he got to the set in Australia the disappointment continued. Said Stamp about working with the actress, “I did meet her and she was absolutely enchanting. But on the day I’m supposed to do my scene with her, for which I’d traveled halfway around the world, I said, ‘Where’s Natalie?’ And George says, ‘That’s Natalie,’ and points to a bit of paper on the wall. It was just boring.”
I remember more details about acting in a scene in a green-screen environment, when the other “actor” was a marker stick… And him calling it something a bit more harsh than “boring”.
Any smart director would very sensibly try to avoid repeating GL’s mistakes, and try to bring back the magic of the first movies. It seems JJ Abrams was paying attention. :)
re: #71 Aye Pod
George Sorial, a lawyer with the Trump Organization in New York, said in a statement that the verdict is “extremely unfortunate” for all residents of the Aberdeen area and will “completely destroy the bucolic Aberdeen Bay and cast a terrible shadow upon the future of tourism for the area.”
He said Trump will continue to “fight this proposal on every possible front.”
After the UK Supreme Court ruled against him, where can he go?
re: #76 jaunte
After the UK Supreme Court ruled against him, where can he go?
Oh I don’t know - the European Court of Human Rights, probably? He’s just trying to get satisfaction by delaying it’s construction, he’ll try anything.
re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor
I’ve been a movie extra. For one scene, we had to play an enthusiastic concert audience going crazy and cheering a big X made with gaffer’s tape on the stage.
I can’t imagine doing a one-on-one scene with a big X instead of the real actor. I guess pros learn to adapt to the situation.
It’s worth noting that the leading stars can tell directors which scenes they want to be in, and which ones they would prefer a big X or a stand in to appear in.
The old coot can sometimes quip some good crazy.
Playing a commercial for The Big Short during #GOPDebate is like playing a commercial for Concussion during the Super Bowl.
— Jesse Ventura (@GovJVentura) December 16, 2015
re: #72 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Old school, literally.
Apparently, it’s now possible to add in cold weather breath vapor clouds in post-processing. The actors then get to work in normal room temperature sets dressed up like Eskimos, pretending to be cold while actually sweating bullets under their clothes. Putting them in low-temperature sets makes the whole scene more realistic, and IMO as an amateur, easier to act in.
I”m glad to see that film makers have caught on to how audiences are sick and tired of too much CGI and are shooting more practical effects. Not that I particularly care; I’m sick and tired of superhero movies.
re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor
I watched “Star Trek Into Darkness” last week and thought it was awesome, as good or better than the first reboot. Not an easy thing to be true to the spirit of the original ‘Star Trek’ concept and characters, but also able to compete with the energy and spectacle of today’s sci fi/fantasy movies - JJ really seems to have the knack for this sort of thing.
Since my wife is volunteering for Sanders, I went with her to the event held in Manchester tonight. Of course, the crowd loved Bernie, but they sometimes responded well to HRC and often to O’Malley. O’Malley did so poorly in the first debate that anything would be an improvement, but from the reactions around me, he seemed to do particularly well. My own take was that he basically rephrased much of what Bernie said; and it was basically his “statistics” approach to policing that led to the epic levels of mistrust between the police and black citizens (at least according to David Simon).
Anyway, may take (oops, I already said that): Bernie has a good following, but seems simpleminded on the Middle East and the role of America (though I an tending to agree with him about the limits of American power). O’Malley would likely take from Bernie rather than Hillary. I think Hillary won tonight. She will be acceptable because she will be a safe hold for the progressive gains of the Obama years without doing serious damage to Wall St. or the defense industry (which, really, is another legacy of the Obama years).
Weekend at Bernies 3: The Big Data Blunder
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I’m 6’3” 190lbs. Athletic. Bearded. Intelligent. Hard worker. Big dick. Very sexual. Handsome. Outgoing personality. Yet I’m still single! 😔
— Hello, it’s Tay® (@iamTayLamar) December 18, 2015
re: #80 teleskiguy
He did take a good shot a Trump’s Mexican wall idea-a wall can keep people out-but it can also keep you in (a la Berlin)
re: #86 goddamnedfrank
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Possible idiot dudebro?
re: #86 goddamnedfrank
How does he know he’s very sexual if he’s still single? Is he admitting he masturbates often?
re: #86 goddamnedfrank
Big dick really steals the show but bearded should get at least get a best supporting adjective nomination.
I criticized Bernie Sanders yesterday, but he showed real class by apologizing to Hillary Clinton for the unethical data access.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 20, 2015
re: #86 goddamnedfrank
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And how does his Hot Asian Wife feel about this? //
re: #82 Aye Pod
I watched “Star Trek Into Darkness” last week and thought it was awesome, as good or better than the first reboot. Not an easy thing to be true to the spirit of the original ‘Star Trek’ concept and characters, but also able to compete with the energy and spectacle of today’s sci fi/fantasy movies - JJ really seems to have the knack for this sort of thing.
Though Star Trek purists are really pissed about the altered timeline. They wanted to see “their” Captain Kirk & Co. live out all the events mentioned in the previous series as backstory. Abrams wisely scrapped that idea, so he could make a movie to appeal to people who know nothing about the ST Universe.
But I have to say the young actors playing Kirk, Spock, Uhura, McCoy, Sulu, Chekhov and Scotty do a really great job in capturing the personalities of their predecessors.
re: #89 teleskiguy
How does he know he’s very sexual if he’s still single? Is he admitting he masturbates often?
You know who else didn’t masturbate often? Hitler, probably.
Don’t be like Hitler.
re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Though Star Trek purists are really pissed about the altered timeline. They wanted to see “their” Captain Kirk & Co. live out all the events mentioned in the previous series as backstory. Abrams wisely scrapped that idea, so he could make a movie to appeal to people who know nothing about the ST Universe.
But I have to say the young actors playing Kirk, Spock, Uhura, McCoy, Sulu, Chekhov and Scotty do a really great job in capturing the personalities of their predecessors.
Of all of them, I think that Karl Urban does the best job; it’s like he’s possessed by DeForrest Kelly.
re: #94 goddamnedfrank
You know who else didn’t masturbate often? Hitler, probably.
Don’t be like Hitler.
GODWIN!
re: #94 goddamnedfrank
You know who else didn’t masturbate often? Hitler, probably.
Don’t be like Hitler.
Hitler avoided masturbation and invaded countries instead. It’s all about channeling that sexual energy.
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re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Hitler avoided masturbation and invaded countries instead. It’s all about channeling that sexual energy.
//
Well, Germany’s resurgent military at the time was a big swinging dick indeed.
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re: #95 TedStriker
Of all of them, I think that Karl Urban does the best job; it’s like he’s possessed by DeForrest Kelly.
Definitely. Dee Kelley would approve of his characterization, complete with the fear of flying, divorced wife taking everything and McCoy having nowhere else to turn for a job than Starfleet.
Kelley’s McCoy was a champion complainer.
re: #55 CleverToad
The fundamental problem with prequels is that the audience knows how it will end. So there’s no real suspense. It is actually damn near impossible to do well.
That said, over the last few weeks, I’ve been rewatching all the movies as well as the clone wars. When all six movies are taken as a complete story, the prequels aren’t actually that bad. The problem is that Lucas is just not a good writer and he insisted on writing the prequels himself.
re: #100 KGxvi
The fundamental problem with prequels is that the audience knows how it will end. So there’s no real suspense. It is actually damn near impossible to do well.
That said, over the last few weeks, I’ve been rewatching all the movies as well as the clone wars. When all six movies are taken as a complete story, the prequels aren’t actually that bad. The problem is that Lucas is just not a good writer and he insisted on writing the prequels himself.
Lucas’s success went to his head, and he surrounded himself with people who didn’t feel safe telling him the truth. That shit is lethal.
re: #100 KGxvi
The fundamental problem with prequels is that the audience knows how it will end. So there’s no real suspense. It is actually damn near impossible to do well.
That said, over the last few weeks, I’ve been rewatching all the movies as well as the clone wars. When all six movies are taken as a complete story, the prequels aren’t actually that bad. The problem is that Lucas is just not a good writer and he insisted on writing the prequels himself.
The other problem was the little kid who played Annakin. And Jar Jar Binks. Holy crap.
re: #91 Charles Johnson
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re: #101 goddamnedfrank
Lucas’s success went to his head, and he surrounded himself with people who didn’t feel safe telling him the truth. That shit is lethal.
The dangers of too much success destroying one’s humility.
re: #91 Charles Johnson
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— Emma Roller (@emmaroller) December 20, 2015
re: #102 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The other problem was the little kid who played Annakin. And Jar Jar Binks. Holy crap.
Sith Lord Jar Jar would have been a hell of a lot more interesting to watch.
Instead, we got a CGI version of Stepin Fetchit.
re: #100 KGxvi
I just finished re-viewing the original series (in original cuts.)
Reminds me of my younger days, back when I first saw them.
Anyway, using my older and more critical eye, these movies now seem so-so to me. The cinematography was fine, especially in the first one, but then Lucas was more in charge. The dialogue throughout the series though is groan-inducing.
Still, I plan on treating myself to a trip to one of those fancy 3-D places for the first time, once the crowds die down.
re: #101 goddamnedfrank
Lucas’s success went to his head, and he surrounded himself with people who didn’t feel safe telling him the truth. That shit is lethal.
That is, in my opinion, a large part of the reason that the prequels stank on ice. Lucas surrounded himself with sycophants who didn’t want to stand up to the “Great George Lucas” and tell him that his ideas sucked. It wasn’t like when he made the original trilogy, when he was subservient to the studio and to their demands. He was the big boss, he was calling the shots, and everybody else knew it.
re: #86 goddamnedfrank
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It’s the “normal” ones you have to look out for.re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Though Star Trek purists are really pissed about the altered timeline. They wanted to see “their” Captain Kirk & Co. live out all the events mentioned in the previous series as backstory.
Ugh. The ‘Star Trek Purists’.
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re: #106 TedStriker
Sith Lord Jar Jar would have been a hell of a lot more interesting to watch.
Instead, we got a CGI version of Stepin’ Fetchit.
I swear, after watching the prequels and the clone wars, I have fully adopted the theory that Jar Jar is the ultimate big bad
Oh, there was a debate tonight?
Was anything worthwhile said?
I spent the day working on descendants of an ancestor. Discovered one of my 4th cousins died in a car accident, and though perhaps the accident was not entirely her fault, her blood alcohol levels were quite high.
*sigh* so many people die so foolishly.
re: #111 KGxvi
I swear, after watching the prequels and the clone wars, I have fully adopted the theory that Jar Jar is the ultimate big bad
Have you seen the theory about Jar Jar (supported with some compelling evidence), how he was really supposed to be the big bad Sith Lord that pulled Palpatine/Sidious’ strings?
re: #107 freetoken
The Force Awakens is awesome. All things considered, it might be the better than any of the others. Part of that might be that they didn’t have to do any of the world building that they needed to in A New Hope or Phantom Menance. And part is definitely that the dialogue isn’t fucking terrible.
re: #113 TedStriker
Have you seen the theory about Jar Jar, how he was really supposed to be the big bad Sith Lord that pulled Palpatine/Sidious’ strings?
Funny thing about Jar Jar: He was the one in the senate who made the original proposal (at Palpatines urging), to allow the Chancellor to have increased powers. This of course led to the formation of the Empire and the destruction of the Jedi.
re: #111 KGxvi
I swear, after watching the prequels and the clone wars, I have fully adopted the theory that Jar Jar is the ultimate big bad
No. I get how this is tempting because he’s so unequivocally awful that people want to believe that maybe he was pulling an elaborate Kaiser Soze all along, but he was just Lucas’ cynical attempt to pander to what he perceived as the immaturity of children in the audience, who he did not in any way respect.
The other thing about Jar Jar is couldn’t they find a way to do a goofy character like this WITHOUT turning in him to a lame Caribbean stereotype?
re: #113 TedStriker
Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. I think I was the one who introduced it here in a thread a few weeks back. I think there’s even more evidence in the clone wars series. I will hold out hope for two more movies… Unless Ahsoka Tano (another character I hope shows up) kills Jar Jar in Rebels.
re: #116 goddamnedfrank
No. I get how this is tempting because he’s so unequivocally awful that people want to believe that maybe he was pulling an elaborate Kaiser Soze all along, but he was just Lucas’ cynical attempt to pander to what he perceived as the immaturity of children in the audience, who he did not in any way respect.
Yeah, I see the theory as a sort of effort to assume creativity on Lucas’ part that just isn’t evident anywhere else. To assume that Jar Jar’s stupidity was a ploy the entire time, that he was the Big Bad pulling all the strings, just sort of destroys the Emperor as a character.
re: #114 KGxvi
The Force Awakens is awesome. All things considered, it might be the better than any of the others. Part of that might be that they didn’t have to do any of the world building that they needed to in A New Hope or Phantom Menance. And part is definitely that the dialogue isn’t fucking terrible.
Say no more. You’ve sold me, fellow lizard. And the space ships look neato.
re: #110 Aye Pod
Ugh. The ‘Star Trek Purists’.
“To boldly go to all the places that were mentioned earlier”. Yeah that would have been awesome//
Exactly. People who get immersed in a fictional universe are obsessed with all its tiny details, and go nuts whenever there’s a contradiction with canon. The Star Trek franchise has done a reasonably good job in creating a consistent future history, but it’s fiction, for pete’s sake. If all the previous series could go back in time to “fix things,” why can’t the new film series alter the timeline to create a whole new set of circumstances?
He was also a massive point of employment for artists. Nobody was going to risk getting fired from Star Wars.
“I need five thousand design sketches of goofy droids to cram into this pointless battle scene.”
“Yes sir!”
I was caught up in the Prequel hype right from the beginning. There was so much genuine love and excitement for the new films, because people had waited an entire generation and new Star Wars was like the ultimate Christmas present. And then… Well, we all know what happened. I’m still traumatized years later. :P I simply cannot get excited about new Star Wars because I don’t want to be hurt again!
I’m sure somewhere I have a JPG copy of the first ever concept painting that was released, of a yellow skyship docked at a building on Coruscant. I’m pretty sure it was a Ralph McQuarrie painting, too. That was sooooo exciting because it was going to be a new world, rendered in the old style. I was expecting mythology and big tales of good and evil and instead we got fucking Jar Jar and racist caricatures as villains.
What I liked so much about the originals was the unapologetic, unpretentious way the SW universe was dropped right in your lap without any explanation or “Look at me!” paint-by-numbers Epic Battle Scenes. The characters were all at home in fantastic scenery and if they saw something REALLY amazing, like a space slug inside an asteroid or a battle station as big as a moon, they were impressed too. Even the performers were confused by their lines - how many times have we heard the stories from Hamill, Fisher, etc - “I didn’t even know what I was saying half the time”, “George, you can write this shit but I can’t say it”… That feeling was somehow lost in the Prequels.
Anyway I hear people are really happy with the new movie, so I’ll make extra effort to see it this week sometime. I waited out the weekend to avoid crowds and possible terrorism/random whacko shootings.
re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I consider myself a big star trek fan but I like the altered time line and the new actors. Cut back on the fake lens flare & wish Khan had been portrayed by an an actor of color but otherwise I’m good with it.
re: #119 Targetpractice
Part of the theory was that the story was drastically changed between episodes 1 and 2, because of the negative reaction to Jar Jar. And Dooku does feel like he was shoehorned in as a rewrite. Of course, that could have just been some more of Lucas’ bad writing too
re: #119 Targetpractice
Yeah, I see the theory as a sort of effort to assume creativity on Lucas’ part that just isn’t evident anywhere else. To assume that Jar Jar’s stupidity was a ploy the entire time, that he was the Big Bad pulling all the strings, just sort of destroys the Emperor as a character.
Jar Jar was the useful idiot, a pawn in Palpatine’s rise to power. A better script would have made the connection more clear.
re: #121 Aye Pod
I discovered this last weekend - watched the first 20 minutes with ice - “for a laugh” - been having really horrible sleep paralysis every other night since then. I’m sure it’s not a coincidence…
I’ve only watched that with the Rifftrax commentary. Can’t imagine watching it without a sarcastic commentary. Even I have my standards.
re: #124 William Lewis
I admit regretting not going to see the movie with friends, I wish I could now, but they all have gone for Christmas.
Holidays really suck for me.
Going to have to admit, Doctor Who without Clara Oswald will take some adjusting too. That character, of all things, pulled me out of a depression.
re: #122 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Exactly. People who get immersed in a fictional universe are obsessed with all its tiny details, and go nuts whenever there’s a contradiction with canon. The Star Trek franchise has done a reasonably good job in creating a consistent future history, but it’s fiction, for pete’s sake. If all the previous series could go back in time to “fix things,” why can’t the new film series alter the timeline to create a whole new set of circumstances?
Yep - they miss the bigger picture altogether. Star Treks mission is to seek out new frontiers, strange new worlds, new life and new civilizations - Abrams set the franchise free to do that again.
re: #125 KGxvi
Part of the theory was that the story was drastically changed between episodes 1 and 2, because of the negative reaction to Jar Jar. And Dooku does feel like he was shoehorned in as a rewrite. Of course, that could have just been some more of Lucas’ bad writing too
Thing is, not only does Lucas not seem the sort of writer who could pull that off, but the man’s ego does not seem to me capable of acknowledging that Jar Jar being the Big Bad is not the greatest idea in the franchise’s history.
re: #127 De Kolta Chair
I’ve only watched that with the Rifftrax commentary. Can’t imagine watching it without a sarcastic commentary. Even I have my standards.
Ice and I were hoping that a Rifftrax or MST3K commentary of this might exist. It could be the therapy I need. Cheers!
re: #126 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I have, sitting on my bookshelf, novelizations of the first six movies. Been meaning to read back through them. There’s a lot of useful details in those books that explained stuff that wasn’t clear in the movies - like why Mace Windu wanted to kill Palpatine instead of just arrest him (for those who care, his style of lightsaber combat required him to tap into the dark side and was considered a dangerous form among Jedi)
re: #129 Aye Pod
Yep - they miss the bigger picture altogether. Star Treks mission is to seek out new frontiers, strange new worlds, new life and new civilizations - Abrams set the franchise free to do that again.
And he’s gotten Star Wars back out there in a big way; I saw TFA today and, all-and-all, it was pretty good, though my heart’s always with the original trilogy.
re: #129 Aye Pod
Yep - they miss the bigger picture altogether. Star Treks mission is to seek out new frontiers, strange new worlds, new life and new civilizations - Abrams set the franchise free to do that again.
Well, as a Star Trek fan (I actually have a character named after me in a novel), this is what Abrams definitely did NOT do with INTO DARKNESS. With all this freedom to do new stuff, this was a cheeky rehash of WRATH OF KHAN that was doomed to failure precisely because it was in a new continuity, and shorn of the years of age and experience that gave the original such resonance (for Khan, Kirk and Spock).
re: #134 gwangung
Well, as a Star Trek fan (I actually have a character named after me in a novel), this is what Abrams definitely did NOT do with INTO DARKNESS. With all this freedom to do new stuff, this was a cheeky rehash of WRATH OF KHAN that was doomed to failure precisely because it was in a new continuity, and shorn of the years of age and experience that gave the original such resonance (for Khan, Kirk and Spock).
Well, one thing that Into Darkness didn’t have was rich Corinithian leather…
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re: #128 The War TARDIS
I would absolutely watch a series about Clara Oswald and Ashielda flying through time and space in an American retro diner
re: #125 KGxvi
Part of the theory was that the story was drastically changed between episodes 1 and 2, because of the negative reaction to Jar Jar.
That’s just evidence that Lucas threw the Jar Jar haters a bone by making him responsible for the Empire. It actually undermines the idea that he was ever intended to be some nefarious genius all along.
I would have loved to have seen a seen a Usual Suspects reference tacked onto the end, after the credits, where Obi Wan is sitting in a cave trying to piece it all together, looking at a wall full of evidence and suddenly bits of Jar Jar’s whole back story are all revealed to be lies. Then a beautiful montage sequence with Jar Jar walking along and transitioning from an awkward gait to a smooth pace, lots of past dialog suddenly fits a this new context and finally he gets into a land speeder driven by Pete Postlethwaite.
But that didn’t happen. He was just a ****.
re: #124 William Lewis
I consider myself a big star trek fan but I like the altered time line and the new actors. Cut back on the fake lens flare & wish Khan had been portrayed by an an actor of color but otherwise I’m good with it.
Having Khan played by a person of colour would be like having Scotty played by a scotsman. Just wouldn’t work.
re: #130 Targetpractice
Its tough to say, the character and story ends up very different if he is the Big Bad instead of terrible comic relief
re: #132 KGxvi
I have, sitting on my bookshelf, novelizations of the first six movies. Been meaning to read back through them. There’s a lot of useful details in those books that explained stuff that wasn’t clear in the movies - like why Mace Windu wanted to kill Palpatine instead of just arrest him (for those who care, his style of lightsaber combat required him to tap into the dark side and was considered a dangerous form among Jedi)
See, that’s sort of like the whole bit about how Nero’s backstory in Star Trek was so much more compelling and sympathetic if one reads the comic books that preceded the film. That you get a sense of what his motivations are, why he hates the Federation so much, and what the tattoos were all about. It works hard to meld the old franchise with the Abramsverse in a fashion that would make fans at least accepting of the new set-up.
But, as one reviewer I heard declared, if you have to read the books to understand what’s going on in the film, then you’ve failed as a storyteller.
Well, gotta scoot. Me and Kubrick have hoaxes to play on you mere humans.
re: #138 Aye Pod
Having Khan played by a person of colour would be like having Scotty played by a scotsman. Just wouldn’t work.
I’m guessing that, “person of color” in this case would mean “not a pasty Brit” (even though I think Cumberbatch did a fairly good job), someone that could at least pass for Indian/SW Asian, in keeping with Montelban’s playing of the part.
re: #136 KGxvi
THe issue is, I have now heard 4 different proposals for Doctor Who Spin offs, aside from the vague one next spring.
Something about Vastra, Jenny and Strax
A mini-series for the 8th Doctor
A mini-series for the War Doctor
A Clara & Ashildr show.
I would love all of these, but the BBC would never have enough money for all of them.
I have been meaning to write a review of Series 9. It was certainly the best season in the New Who era, and possibly the best series of Doctor Who overall.
re: #143 The War TARDIS
THe issue is, I have now heard 4 different proposals for Doctor Who Spin offs, aside from the vague one next spring.
Something about Vastra, Jenny and Strax
A mini-series for the 8th Doctor
A mini-series for the War Doctor
A Clara & Ashildr show.I would love all of these, but the BBC would never have enough money for all of them.
I have been meaning to write a review of Series 9. It was certainly the best season in the New Who era, and possibly the best series of Doctor Who overall.
I haven’t watched the show in forever, but a Vastra and Jenny show would be the fucking tits. Samurai sword wielding interspecies lesbian Victorian era detectives, that shit literally fires on all cylinders.
re: #143 The War TARDIS
THe issue is, I have now heard 4 different proposals for Doctor Who Spin offs, aside from the vague one next spring.
Something about Vastra, Jenny and Strax
A mini-series for the 8th Doctor
A mini-series for the War Doctor
A Clara & Ashildr show.I would love all of these, but the BBC would never have enough money for all of them.
I have been meaning to write a review of Series 9. It was certainly the best season in the New Who era, and possibly the best series of Doctor Who overall.
Think I’d prefer a series about the Paternoster Gang, though I’m open to the mini-series for the 8th Doctor.
re: #143 The War TARDIS
They’ve been talking about Vastra Jenny and Strax for a while. The War Doctor would be interesting if only because we’d get to see more of the time war - but also troubling because it’ll kill some of the mystery and runs into the prequel problem I mentioned above. A series about 8 would be interesting and deserved. And Maise Williams will be busy with GoT for a couple more years.
My money would be on V/J/S
re: #144 goddamnedfrank
It could be a kids show!
I think that Doctor Who should be nominated for an Emmy this year. With one exception, all of these episodes were launched out of the park.
I think either the Zygon two-parter (and it’s beautiful anti-war message) or the Doctor’s despair and desperation in Heaven Sent would be perfect.
Sherlock was nominated, and won, Emmys two years ago, and they are produced and many of the episodes written by the same man, Steven Moffat.
re: #137 goddamnedfrank
Ok, that’s a better payoff than the idea of Yoda and evil Jar Jar in a lightsaber duel
Ok time to brave sleep again. Take care folks :)
re: #142 TedStriker
I’m guessing that, “person of color” in this case would mean “not a pasty Brit” (even though I think Cumberbatch did a fairly good job), someone that could at least pass for Indian/SW Asian, in keeping with Montelban’s playing of the part.
Hmmm….I might have considered Cumberbatch as a superman, but as one of the henchmen, and not Khan himself….his motivation was loyalty to Khan and trying to free him…
Lest I forget…
Mary Anne Talbot, remembered to this day as “Powder Monkey Anne,” served as a drummer boy in the battle for Valenciennes, and fought in the battle of Ushant, among other naval engagements during the Napoleonic Wars. She lived to the ripe age of ninety-seven. The principal duty of a powder monkey was to carry bags of gunpowder from the vessel’s below-deck magazine to the gun deck above. Sounds like a really shitty job.re: #151 De Kolta Chair
She should be listed on Rejected Princesses, if she isn’t already!
One little thing from the debate that bugged me was the notion that the middle class extends to households making $250K per year. What the fuck is that and when did it start? Because it’s one of those ways in which self centered pricks use their power to define the middle class in ways that are wildly unrealistic for the vast majority of families making anywhere near the median income.
The sheer assholeness of the people who perpetuate this bullshit is simply amazing.
“I definitely don’t see myself as rich,” says Lott, who is saving to purchase a downtown luxury condominium.
Get fucked sir, right in the ear.
Like I was saying with the comic books and Star Trek, the comics also covered the backstory to Into Darkness to explain Khan’s appearance. That Section 31 had found the Botany Bay, defrosted Khan, and then subjected him to reconstructive surgery as well as wiping his memories. Then when he woke up, they explained to him that he was Lt. John Harrison, a Starfleet Intel officer who’d been injured on a mission and suffered memory loss as a result. He was put to work building new weapons and creating new plans, culminating in a mission that cause the Klingon moon of Praxis to explode. But on that mission, he suffered a blow to the head, and when he came to his original memories reasserted themselves. He suddenly knew who he was, but Adm. Marcus had custody of his family. Hence where the film starts.
But, again, if you have to read the supplementary material in order for the story to make sense, then you suck as a writer.
re: #151 De Kolta Chair
Lest I forget…
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Talbot continued to use sailor’s clothes, worked in menial jobs and even tried her luck on stage at Drury Lane but eventually was arrested and taken to debtor’s prison at Newgate. When she was released she became a household servant for publisher Robert S. Kirby at his home in St Paul’s Churchyard, London and worked for him for three years until her health deteriorated. She went to live with friends in Shropshire and died a few weeks later aged 34, on 4 February 1808.[4]
;-P
re: #153 goddamnedfrank
One little thing from the debate that bugged me was the notion that the middle class extends to households making $250K per year. What the fuck is that and when did it start? Because it’s one of those ways in which self centered pricks use their power to define the middle class in ways that are wildly unrealistic for the vast majority of families making anywhere near the median income.
The sheer assholeness of the people who perpetuate this bullshit is simply amazing.
Get fucked sir, right in the ear.
Yes! It is a nod to Manhattanites, I’ll bet. We’re at about the median (finally but not ever sure) and that’s slightly less than five times what we make. It’s a political ploy to not alienate the people who won’t vote for you anyway.
And nice Iggy Pop reference: “that’s like hypnotizing chickens….”
re: #156 Barefoot Grin
Yes! It is a nod to Manhattanites, I’ll bet. We’re at about the median (finally but not ever sure) and that’s slightly less than five times what we make. It’s a political ploy to not alienate the people who won’t vote for you anyway.
What kills me about it is you never see the people who so cynically label themselves according to this classification turning around and advocating that their less affluent neighbors within these high cost of living communities, whose income is closer to the median national income, receive government assistance.
It’s a kind of predator’s camouflage. They want to benefit from a well functioning community without having to contribute towards it in relation to their inordinate dependance upon it. They benefit more from the mere existence of society, because they have farther to fall, but can’t possibly bring themselves to admit this simple fact.
re: #154 Targetpractice
Hmph. That back story didn’t add much to INTO DARKNESS. Reconstructive surgery and ransoming his people works well enough by itself, and that was mentioned in the movie…
re: #159 goddamnedfrank
What kills me about it is you never see the people who so cynically label themselves according to this classification turning around and advocating that their less affluent neighbors within these high cost of living communities, whose income is closer to the median national income, receive government assistance.
It’s a kind of predator’s camouflage. They want to benefit from a well functioning community without having to contribute towards it in relation to their inordinate dependance upon it. They benefit more from the mere existence of society, because they have farther to fall.
I caught the tail-end of a NPR “This American Life” this afternoon while operating the kid ferry. It seemed to be about a San Francisco elementary school staging a show called “The Eviction.” The punchline was that the correspondent, a New York Magazine writer, had a child in the play and was also just being priced out of his neighborhood. He took great pains to not blame the IT neighbors who found themselves able to move and bargain for 25% above their original asking price, but it was pretty clear that the children’s play is like the unrealistic response to our income gap. The correspondent said something like ‘in the second act I looked over and saw my wife crying’: she saw children playing out what was just about to happen to her family. Of course, this was an NPR story, so the family moved to a small town where they could afford a home and everything was ok. But not so for the cop or teacher or firefighter who has a fixed address to report to for his or her job.
re: #100 KGxvi
The fundamental problem with prequels is that the audience knows how it will end. So there’s no real suspense. It is actually damn near impossible to do well.
That’s what I worried about when I started watching “Better Call Saul”. Worries assuaged.
The glory hole line at the truck stop off route 40 got weird that day pic.twitter.com/llfpKQh2UF
— HUFF (@SteveHuff) December 19, 2015
Didn’t watch the debate…drank old wine and ate good food instead.
@darthstar99 #WineOfTheNight pic.twitter.com/s62TtTfUNP
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 20, 2015
re: #164 darthstar
Didn’t watch the debate…drank old wine and ate good food instead.
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Mate, you coulda sung out.
I woulda helpt ya, I coulda got you some new wine!
Don’t suffer in silence.
“@Sharp_Trident: @TheRealRyder Trump is looking like the next POTUS, especially after watching the #DemDebate that had no substance.”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2015
“Trump presidency will have yooge substance. So much substance you won’t believe!” https://t.co/rcFP9VVpT0
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) December 20, 2015
Meanwhile, in poking around the internet, I finally - finally! - found some evidence of a genuine, bona fide, War on Christmas.
It’s in Japan.
TOKYO — Anti-Christmas protesters calling themselves “Losers with Women” marched through Tokyo’s streets Saturday, bashing the upcoming holiday as a capitalist ploy that also discriminates against singletons.
The group of about 20—part of the Communist-inspired group that routinely protests Western holidays—marched under angry banners that read “Smash Christmas!” in Tokyo’s Shibuya district, where couples and families strolled for holiday shopping.
The scrooges—mostly single men—said they were against capitalism and were opposed to the commercialisation of Christmas.
“In this world, money is extracted from people in love, and happy people support capitalism,” said the head of the organisation, formally called Kakumeiteki Hi-mote Domei, or the Revolutionary Losers’ League.
“Christmas is the most symbolic event for this,” he added.
The man, who identified himself only by the pseudonym MarkWater, said the rally was also in support of unloved men.
“Unpopular men, who don’t have a girlfriend or are not married, are overly discriminated. We want to break this barrier,” he told AFP amid the shouting protesters.
In Japan, Christmas is not an official holiday and is mostly celebrated informally as a romantic event for couples, while New Year’s Day is an occasion for family reunion.
The group has held past marches to denounce imported Western holidays, including rallies against Valentine’s Day.
So you better watch out, you’d better not cry, you’d better not pout, I’m telling you why……
‘Cause the Revolutionary Losers League is f***in’ up the town, that’s why.
Heh.
This is probably a good time to invest in old white butthurt. https://t.co/mIU6qFR8wu
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) December 20, 2015
N.W.A. to be inducted into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: https://t.co/Dwt7Ymdws5 pic.twitter.com/heA9NOwIel
— The Root (@TheRoot) December 20, 2015
re: #168 Dr Lizardo
Meanwhile, in poking around the internet, I finally - finally! - found some evidence of a genuine, bona fide, War on Christmas.
It’s in Japan.
So you better watch out, you’d better not cry, you’d better not pout, I’m telling you why……
‘Cause the Revolutionary Losers League is f***in’ up the town, that’s why.
Heh.
There’s some discontent in China about the celebration of some Western holidays, but they’re good for the economy, so mostly it’s the traditionalists that complain. People buy gifts for Valentine’s Day, Mother’s Day, Father’s Day and Christmas, and some younger people who have studied American culture have kind of adopted Thanksgiving as a time to, y’know, thank people dear to them.
But the traditional holidays, especially Chinese New Year (Spring Festival) are supreme. No worries in China about Western holidays taking over.
Those Japanese losers need to start their own holiday, like Chinese Single’s Day (11/11). It was started by some college students several years, and has caught on as an excuse for singles to spend money on themselves.
re: #169 Amory Blaine
Great song. Hard to believe it’s been almost 20 years since it came out.
Pussy Riot: If America Wants its Own Putin, Vote for Trump
Maria Alekhina, member of the feminist punk rock group Pussy Riot, sat for an interview yesterday about her thoughts on Vladimir Putin’s compliments of Donald Trump.
Alekhina warned that American attitudes to the frontrunner are very similar to those who didn’t think much of Putin before his reign. She expressed deep concern about those who still think of Trump as a joke, and said that those who vote for him are voting for an Americanized version of the Russian president.
This is like watching MTV, back when MTV showed music videos.
re: #76 jaunte
That’s one of the reasons he’s running for President. With access to the US military the UK Supreme Court can suck eggs.
sort of/
re: #189 Nyet
I am laughing. My ass off. Holy shit!
re: #134 gwangung
Unfortunately this project seems to be on hold, but if it ever comes out I’ll be seeing it.
re: #167 Ace-o-aces
Is that what they’re calling it these days? Substance?
Glad to see the Dems were able to show the country and the world what a sane political debate looks like (aka not a lineup of clowns trying to top each other for crazy).
In other news, I was saddened, yet pleased to see the New York Times noted the death of Alden Amos, a highly influential spinning wheel maker, at age 77. I have his Big Book of Handspinning sitting about eight feet away from where I sit.
Amos was quite opinionated; he did not approve of Navajo plying (which is a way of plying a spun single back on itself to make a three-ply yarn), but it’s my personal favorite way of plying. That said, even I, still a neophyte at the craft of spinning after five years, salute him in his passing. I wouldn’t have the very nice spinning wheel sitting at my left elbow if it hadn’t been for him tinkering around and improving the ways wheels work. (21st Century know-how married to a 16th century technology FTW!)
re: #198 dholmes32
Afternoon here, just on my way across the border into France (about 100 miles each way) to pick up kiddies for Xmas week. Off to Frankfurt on Tuesday for shopping and Star Wars (in English!)
re: #111 KGxvi
I swear, after watching the prequels and the clone wars, I have fully adopted the theory that Jar Jar is the ultimate big bad
Sort of like this…
You guys, he knows! HE KNOWS!!! https://t.co/qopFdKKSC9
— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) December 20, 2015
re: #39 De Kolta Chair
What an artist he was. “El Paso” is one of the greatest hit songs ever. A masterpiece in my opinion.
re: #61 Big Beautiful Door
Also, there was a shooting in a Wisconsin mall last evening. But my local Rethug news fanboi assured me it was not terrorist related so I guess those silly people terrified by flying bullets should be relieved.
Saw Star Wars yesterday and enjoyed it immensely. I know I had a big grin on my face a few times. Never once looked at the time so it kept my attention throughout. My dad had taken me to the original so yesterday I went with him and step-mom. She has had 3 bouts w/cancer and the associated chemo, radiation and drugs have left her very fuzzy. So she didn’t really recall the previous movies or characters but she enjoyed it as well. I was quite surprised to find our noon showing only had about 25 people in the theater. Maybe that was due to them having showings every 15 minutes or so but thought it was odd.
Did the dudebro call Clinton a war criminal?
This vague pop culture thing that implicitly indemnifies a regime change happy war criminal but is viral for the win
— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) December 20, 2015
re: #212 Nyet
Did the dudebro call Clinton a war criminal?
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I can’t tell if it’s a swipe at Clinton or at SNL.
nobody is listening to you anymore, Carly.
.@CarlyFiorina: I was wrong about Gen. Keane. However all five of these generals have real expereince. All 5 are critical of @POTUS #FNS
— FoxNewsSunday (@FoxNewsSunday) December 20, 2015
re: #212 Nyet
This vague pop culture thing that implicitly indemnifies a regime change happy war criminal but is viral for the win
Prose dense and heavy as fruitcake, but lacking proper hyphenation.
@andreagrimes @notmuchelse It’s okay. We assumed she’d be the nominee in 2008 and that turned out alright.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 20, 2015
re: #208 Timothy Watson
Because J.J. Abrams giving money to Democratic candidates is a new thing.
Not.
Who is this Jar Jar Abrams everyone keeps talking about?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 20, 2015
When a Nigerian tells his dad he is in Star Wars. https://t.co/cIxKjpcaTz
— 3ChicsPolitico (@3ChicsPolitico) December 20, 2015
Just took a stroll around FAIR’s website. Seems like it has become just another far left Putinist propaganda outlet.
re: #218 jaunte
I’m so happy for Boyega. He did an awesome job in TFA and I can’t wait to see him in more stuff.
@owillis Keeps the babies from crying during photo ops.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) December 20, 2015
re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth
nobody is listening to you anymore, Carly.
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RT @ColMorrisDavis Wow! That’s a big leap from all of them being forced out by Obama. https://t.co/7Cvb4B2Fhy
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) December 20, 2015
CBS Iowa poll just unimaginably bad for Republicans: Cruz 40 Trump 31 Rubio 12 Carson 6 Everyone else 2 or less. https://t.co/UT8xk2R1Fn
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) December 20, 2015
re: #43 Big Beautiful Door
He’s created a split between the racists and the fundy’s.
Trump has created cognitive dissonance?
@FoxNewsSunday @CarlyFiorina @ColMorrisDavis i bet being compared to Eva Braun gives her a special kind of tickle, too.
— Pope George Carlin⚛ (@GernBlanston6) December 20, 2015
re: #32 Belafon
Yeah, but all the Sith talked about was the dark side of the Force.
and blowing up people.
Donald Trump, 75 fact-checks, zero statements rated True. https://t.co/OSPUUPCV4W pic.twitter.com/wvKodKBEgV
— PolitiFact (@PolitiFact) December 16, 2015
re: #71 Aye Pod
Don’t know if you guys heard what with all the other Trump related stupid going on all the time, but Donald Trump got telt to “go away an bile his heid” this week by the UK Supreme Court. He was trying to tell the Scottish people that we couldn’t have an offshore windfarm in sight of his golf course because it would spoil the view.
I don’t see the problem. On my local golf course I have to putt the golf ball through a windmill.
re: #224 FormerDirtDart
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“Bad for Republicans?”
Well, if they believe that the Canadian Cuban and the Final Solution are the answer, then they might right. That could be the GOP magic couple. It just might be.
Don’t presume that a Trump/Cruz ticket has to fail.
re: #228 WhatEVs
Someone’s phoning it in at work.
Sheldon Adelson thought buying a newspaper would settle his scores. Instead, reporters wrote a takedown of him. https://t.co/MD11XI2p3t
— Mashable (@mashable) December 20, 2015
Child killer finally departs from the planet
Israeli officials praise reports that terrorist Samir Kuntar killed in… https://t.co/n3PpFzhrru #ArabIsraeliConflict pic.twitter.com/K7CIEJOcH6
— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) December 20, 2015
He’s in fine form this morning:
Donald Trump turns Putin truther: ‘Nobody has proven that he killed anybody’
He’s just rolling them out:
*cough*
Trump Defends Putin: ‘I Haven’t Seen Any Evidence’ He’s Killed Any Journalists https://t.co/nqJG4bHCVG pic.twitter.com/7a9XAgrG6H
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) December 20, 2015
re: #235 freetoken
He’s in fine form this morning:
Donald Trump turns Putin truther: ‘Nobody has proven that he killed anybody’
Do you have a single on-the-record quote from a reporter killed by Putin, or is it all second hand? Hmm. https://t.co/W32S4wQ7ZL
— Jonathan Chait (@jonathanchait) December 20, 2015
I was not aware you could actually have a suit made out of Christmas wrapping paper.
Brian Orakpo making a late push for suit of the year. pic.twitter.com/h0eaDnC9lh
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) December 20, 2015
re: #237 Lidane
Well, neither did I. And I have no love lost for Putin.
re: #235 freetoken
He’s in fine form this morning:
Donald Trump turns Putin truther: ‘Nobody has proven that he killed anybody’
But we should wipe out the families of any terrorists just on spec.
Obviously Litvinenko is Putin’s work, but calling him a journalist is a stretch. Anyway, he was killed because he was seen as an FSB traitor - omerta and all that.
Otherwise I’m not aware of any proven cases of Putin killing journalists.
re: #243 Nyet
Obviously Litvinenko is Putin’s work, but calling him a journalist is a stretch. Anyway, he was killed because he was seen as an FSB traitor - omerta and all that.
Otherwise I’m not aware of any proven cases of Putin killing journalists.
Yeah, but there are too many deaths which have been slightly too convenient to Vlad & the Kremlin Crew, and consistently so. So while they may be able to fully maintain isolation from the cleaning crews, they can’t quite in terms of the effects of the deaths.
re: #237 Lidane
*cough*
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Wait, that “ABC EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW” was a phone call? (Plus, he was on MTP, so it wasn’t even exclusive for Sunday morning.)
If you would have told me 10 years ago that the rabid right in this country would fall in love with Pooty-Poot - I would not have believed you.
re: #235 freetoken
He’s in fine form this morning:
Donald Trump turns Putin truther: ‘Nobody has proven that he killed anybody’
I think I’ll get Trump a Bulgarian Umbrella for Christmas…
re: #246 freetoken
If you would have told me 10 years ago that the rabid right in this country would fall in love with Pooty-Poot - I would not have believed you.
You probably also wouldn’t have believe me if I told you Donald Trump would be a GOP frontrunner. We live in strange times indeed.
re: #247 freetoken
Are the spoiler tags still in effect?
Yep, used them yesterday for posting some of my thoughts on Episode VII
Question: was the Luther episode people were talking about the other night a one-off or a series?
re: #224 FormerDirtDart
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Maybe this is the reason Iowa Republicans have gone off the rails!
re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg
I thought I saw Charles post something about the spoiler tags not working in Spy.
re: #253 freetoken
I thought I saw Charles post something about the spoiler tags not working in Spy.
Ohh, you’re right he did…a few days ago.
re: #252 Joe Bacon
There’s a significant chunk of the Iowa GOP that are very religious and very much able to force the party in that state into the religious right camp.
They may be a minority of the state overall, but they are large enough to make the GOP in Iowa act like they’re in Oklahoma or Texas.
Seem to be working ok now. I submitted post 255 in Spy mode.
re: #234 BeachDem
Besides herself, who compared iCarly to Thatcher?
Here’s a clue!
Boldly going where STUPID has not gone before…Basketball from last night in College Station, TX. Nikon D4s, 70-200mm, 1/1000 @ 2.8, 3200 ISO.
Cruz may be leading in Iowa, but nationwide Trump is more popular than ever:
The more stupid things Trump says, the popular he is becoming.
This is disturbing.
re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg
You probably also wouldn’t have believe me if I told you Donald Trump would be a GOP frontrunner. We live in strange times indeed.
My friends who fled the Soviet Union in the 80s ALL predicted this would happen. Just as they predicted that the Republicans would become just like the Soviet Communist Party…
re: #253 freetoken
I thought I saw Charles post something about the spoiler tags not working in Spy.
I thought he said he fixed it. They don’t display in Spy any longer.
re: #244 Teukka
Yeah, but there are too many deaths which have been slightly too convenient to Vlad & the Kremlin Crew, and consistently so. So while they may be able to fully maintain isolation from the cleaning crews, they can’t quite in terms of the effects of the deaths.
Russia is a dangerous place for journalists, and it hasn’t started with Putin. I don’t think anyone accused Yeltsin of murdering journalists tho.
Putin certainly has direct responsibility in some cases - e.g. for covering for Kadyrov, who most likely was behind Nemtsov’s (and possibly Estemirova’s) death. However “covering for murderers” is not the claim being made, the claim is that he orders the murders, and there’s no evidence of that.
It’s not enough to point to a list of dead “critics of Putin” to establish even plausibility of such a thesis. Being critics was not the only thing these people did, it wasn’t their profession, being “critics of Putin”, they were not one-dimensional. They were, first and foremost, journalists or politicians who were engaged in investigation of many dangerous topics at once, having to do with crime, terrorism, mafia. Hence they were exposed to a heightened risk with or without saying anything about Putin.
Politkovskaya, for example, was focused on Chechnya and had lots of enemies there, on any given side. Paul Klebnikov published a whole book, Conversation with a Barbarian, about a Chechen terrorist Nukhayev, who later became a suspect in his murder. Yushenkov was murdered by a former political ally, a leader of the pro-Berezovsky wing of the “Liberal Russia” party Mikhail Kodanyov.
And so on. In each case there is a plausible motive that is not directly related to Putin. So to draw hasty conclusions from such lists is to commit a basic logical mistake.
re: #243 Nyet
Obviously Litvinenko is Putin’s work, but calling him a journalist is a stretch. Anyway, he was killed because he was seen as a traitor - omerta and all that.
Otherwise I’m not aware of any proven cases of Putin killing journalists.
And what about the guy running for something against Putin’s preferred candidate, seemed to have a lot of support, killed in Red Square on video and nobody ever caught…
re: #269 sagehen
And what about the guy running for something against Putin’s preferred candidate, seemed to have a lot of support, killed in Red Square on video and nobody ever caught…
Most likely Kadyrov’s work.
@gatewaypundit Who has more brainpower?
— Billy Batts (@BillyBatts1970) December 20, 2015
re: #271 WhatEVs
Terrifying?
Well, as far as things like alliterations go, the problem is that “President” ends in a sound almost identical to the start of “Trump”. The “t” forces one to stop the exhaling, so there is a forced stop unlike “President Bush” or “President Obama”.
“Herr Trump” rolls off the tongue more smoothly…
re: #246 freetoken
If you would have told me 10 years ago that the rabid right in this country would fall in love with Pooty-Poot - I would not have believed you.
Perhaps the most persuasive example of how the overton window practically leaped aside.
re: #276 freetoken
Well, as far as things like alliterations go, the problem is that “President” ends in a sound almost identical to the start of “Trump”. The “t” forces one to stop the exhaling, so there is a forced stop unlike “President Bush” or “President Obama”.
President Rump?
When I came across this headline:
Police shoot dead suspect inside L.A. emergency room
I didn’t know what struck me as worse: that the police were shooting corpses in the hospital, or that the guy couldn’t have been saved by the emergency ward doctors.
Or maybe CBS just needs a new headline writer?
re: #285 freetoken
When I came across this headline:
Police shoot dead suspect inside L.A. emergency room
I didn’t know what struck me as worse: that the police were shooting corpses in the hospital, or that the guy couldn’t have been saved by the emergency ward doctors.
Or maybe CBS just needs a new headline writer?
Some wounds are nearly instantly fatal no matter what.
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re: #288 Jenner7
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The Older Boy put on ice skates for the first time in >10 years a few weeks ago, and discovered he didn’t know how anymore. And he ended up cracking his Elbie Bone (ulna).
re: #285 freetoken
When I came across this headline:
Police shoot dead suspect inside L.A. emergency room
I didn’t know what struck me as worse: that the police were shooting corpses in the hospital, or that the guy couldn’t have been saved by the emergency ward doctors.
Or maybe CBS just needs a new headline writer?
Looking at the story, it seems that the suspect tried to reach for an officers gun which resulted in them opening fire against him. Which would mean shots fired at extremely close range, and if the cop(s) is anywhere near good marks(wo)men…
And if the suspect remained combattive after being shot, it severely reduces the chances of his own survival if the shot has taken bad enough, both in terms of delaying their own care and in terms of exacerbating inflicted injuries and their effects. For example, Anton Lundin Petterson lunged against the police officers who arrived at the scene, forcing them to fire for effect. He then was combattive against the officers as they went to check his status and stabilize him until ambulance arrived. IIRC, he was DoA at the hospital.
I love how Raw Story puts it:
Although it is widely believed that Putin was involved in the death of at least eight journalists for criticizing him
Since when is a belief, even the one that is shared widely, evidence of anything? That’s the National Enquirer level.
They even link to a typical piece of tabloid “journalism”, which is as superficial, as it is misleading. E.g.:
:: Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova - 2009
Leading human rights lawyer Stanislav Markelov was gunned down in broad daylight on 19 January, 2009.
Flowers placed at the spot where Stanislav Markelov and Anastasiya Baburova were gunned down
Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova were both shot deadJournalist Anastasia Baburova, 25, was shot dead after she tried to come to his assistance.
Mr Markelov had just held a press conference to protest at the early release of an army colonel who was jailed for the killing of a young Chechen girl. He had also represented the murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya.
It is written as if right now, in 2015, we didn’t know who the murderers were and what motives they had. Except we do. In detail. They were a band of neo-Nazis, who indeed murdered Markelov (Baburova was a “collateral” victim) because of his antifascist work, and specifically because he, as a lawyer, was going to make Budanov’s life more complicated.
A real journalist would have noted that there are questions of (indirect) responsibility in that this neo-Nazi group wanted to go “legal” (think IRA/Sinn Fein) and its ideological leader tried to cultivate ties with certain govt agencies responsible for supervision of political movements - such informal supervision being one of the staples of Putin’s system.
But it’s so much easier to just put them on a list of murdered “Putin’s critics” without any further context, because it serves the narrative and nobody’s gonna check anyway.
re: #291 Jenner7
Ouchie!
He was trying to impress his Girlfriend, and was going to teach her how to skate. Poor boy, he not only busted his arm, but felt bad about disappointing her.
The second straight Democratic primary debate on a Saturday night drew lower ratings than the one in November, averaging a 1.1 for ABC. That was still good enough to tie CBS for the No. 1 spot in adults 18-49 for the night, pending updates. CBS may adjust down some as it had NFL pre-emptions in two large markets.
(6.71 million viewers before adjustment)
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com
For comparison—Last Republican debate (Tues 12/15):
The fifth debate of the Republican presidential primary drew another big audience, giving CNN a big win for the day Tuesday. The debate drew 18.17 million viewers and a 3.8 rating in adults 18-49, better than the previous two on Fox Business and CNBC but behind the first two candidate face-offs on Fox News and CNN.
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com
Smart move, Dems. Pick the Saturday before Christmas so you can have 1/3 the number of views on a Network show as the GOP had on cable.
The only positive spin I can think of is that the more people see the Klown Kar in action, the more ridiculous they look. If only.
A 1,600-year-old Hebrew inscription has been found near the Sea of Galilee https://t.co/M2IrvJN1c0 pic.twitter.com/lxUjBM13qP
— Archaeology Magazine (@archaeologymag) December 20, 2015
re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth
a large marble slab bearing an inscription written in the Aramaic language with Hebrew letters
So actually an Aramaic, not a Hebrew inscription.
re: #294 BeachDem
I didn’t even know/remember that it was on.
Perhaps the DNC needs to start thinking in terms other than their score-keeping for Hillary. There’s a bigger problem afoot, with the popularity of Trump, than simply making Bernie apologize for some procedural mistake.
There’s a bandwagon effect with Trump that even the Democrats are going to find hard to handle.
I can see millions of Americans attracted to vote for Trump who otherwise would simply not have voted.
We lament the low turnout all the time, but consider this: perhaps the people not voting don’t really care.
If they don’t really care about issues, they might be drawn to a personality.
re: #299 PhillyPretzel
One of the prayers during the High Holy days, Kol Nidre, is in Aramaic.
As well as about half of the Talmud…
re: #143 The War TARDIS
I would LOVE any of the spinoffs, but would really like to see an 8 mini series. He’s a fantastic Doctor and I want to see more of him.
Completely agree with you about this season of Who. Superb. And Peter Capaldi is one of the best doctors in either era, IMO.
re: #294 BeachDem
The second straight Democratic primary debate on a Saturday night drew lower ratings than the one in November, averaging a 1.1 for ABC. That was still good enough to tie CBS for the No. 1 spot in adults 18-49 for the night, pending updates. CBS may adjust down some as it had NFL pre-emptions in two large markets.
(6.71 million viewers before adjustment)
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.comFor comparison—Last Republican debate (Tues 12/15):
The fifth debate of the Republican presidential primary drew another big audience, giving CNN a big win for the day Tuesday. The debate drew 18.17 million viewers and a 3.8 rating in adults 18-49, better than the previous two on Fox Business and CNBC but behind the first two candidate face-offs on Fox News and CNN.
tvbythenumbers.zap2it.comSmart move, Dems. Pick the Saturday before Christmas so you can have 1/3 the number of views on a Network show as the GOP had on cable.
The only positive spin I can think of is that the more people see the Klown Kar in action, the more ridiculous they look. If only.
DNC is tone deaf when it comes to things like this. And material for political ads to use against the GOP write themselves but they don’t take advantage. I just don’t get it.
re: #300 Targetpractice
Translation: “Abe Vigoda is dead.”
Obviously an elaborate hoax.
Kids these days
re: #294 BeachDem
This was exactly the complaint I made last night regarding the timing of the debate.
re: #300 Targetpractice
Translation: “Abe Vigoda is dead.”
“That Bible thing…yeah, we may have made a tiny mistake…”
So, Hillary attacking Trump will only strengthen Trump’s popularity among the wingnuts.
And probably also with those few still self-identifying as Republicans even though they are not what we would describe as “wingnuts”.
Now, the DNC might be quite happy with that, as they think Trump would lose easily in the general election.
It’s that last step in the argument that I am not thinking needs to be re-examined.
Holiday stress?…
“Anthony Cumia arrested Sat. morn. on charges of strangulation, assault, criminal mischief, unlawful imprisonment.” https://t.co/ab6nfyj2oO
— Gus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (@Gus_802) December 20, 2015
re: #297 freetoken
I didn’t even know/remember that it was on.
Perhaps the DNC needs to start thinking in terms other than their score-keeping for Hillary. There’s a bigger problem afoot, with the popularity of Trump, than simply making Bernie apologize for some procedural mistake.
While I don’t think it was YUUUGGE in the Trump sense, I believe it was somewhat more than a “procedural mistake.” (and while some of Bernie’s staff call the person fired a “young staffer,” he is 39 and was actually Bernie’s Data Director.) I do agree that the DNC is a mess, and DWS is the reason.
re: #305 GlutenFreeJesus
DNC is tone deaf when it comes to things like this. And material for political ads to use against the GOP write themselves but they don’t take advantage. I just don’t get it.
I’m not sure why. Holding the powder until the general elections? Or that they think that GOTV is going to be strong enough.
The GOP are tapping into anger and hate, which are strong motivators. The Democrats will need to transform fear of what a GOP extremist agenda will do to the nation to get people to vote against the GOP - whoever they nominate.
The choices on the GOP side range from batcrap crazy to flat out fascist. There’s no moderate among the bunch. All want to see ACA repealed. All would roll back the safety net. All would push tax cuts to the rich and shift tax burdens on everyone else.
I sound like a broken record on this, but those are the facts. They need to be hammered home.
The GOP wants people to think that the economy sucks and the only way it gets better is if we cut taxes for the rich. The reality is that the GOP has delayed the economic recovery with their obstructionism.
That’s what the DNC must convey. And they must do better.
Or else all the fears in what the GOP will do will come to pass.
re: #312 ausador
“Meh, freedom of speech” ~you know who
re: #314 lawhawk
Trump is very good at playing the “us vs. them” card, with the “us” being Trump + all the average Americans, and the “them” being the insiders.
People are drawn to success, flamboyance, and yes, fights.
Trump gives them all 3.
re: #121 Aye Pod
I discovered this last weekend - watched the first 20 minutes with ice - “for a laugh” - been having really horrible sleep paralysis every other night since then. I’m sure it’s not a coincidence…
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BURY THE ASHES.
NUKE IT FROM ORBIT.
DEATHSTAR THE PLANET.
IMPLODE THE SUN.
COLLAPSE EXISTENCE.
Who could have predicted that a racist asshole would get violent? Shock!
Fair & Balanced
Fox hosts: We should always run video of Baltimore ‘on fire’ when Dem candidate is on TV https://t.co/UkElL2IDxt pic.twitter.com/xrHV4drFiY
— Raw Story (@RawStory) December 20, 2015
You can always count on Fox & Friends to offer utterly deranged commentary.
re: #312 ausador
Too bad the Opie Radio channel will be on vacation - Monday would have been something to listen to.
Supposedly has 36k followers:
Trump is popular because he says what people are thinking. Enlist & read the truth at https://t.co/GjZHk8JKE4. https://t.co/B1uwZi2DY8
— L.H. Shupe Jr. (@presidentdiary) December 20, 2015
re: #294 BeachDem
Smart move, Dems. Pick the Saturday before Christmas so you can have 1/3 the number of views on a Network show as the GOP had on cable.
The only positive spin I can think of is that the more people see the Klown Kar in action, the more ridiculous they look. If only.
Good day all.
Interesting thread. I did not know Jar Jar Binks debated Capt’t Kirk about the evils of George Lucas and how he ruined a universe like TRUMP(r) is about to destroy another.
And it was on a planet far far away from ordinary Earthlings who were busy on a Saturday night with holiday sporting events and could not pay attention to the earthly wars of Evil Warlord Clinton over the Jewish Jedi Sanders and Luke O’Malley .
Or, something.
But to the real point of BeachDem’s comment. Yeah it was stupid to have a Saturday night debate. The viewership will be slight. I would have watched myself, but some friends had a little seasonal get-together and it was more important not to ask to watch or have it on and best not to even discuss politics as it was a mixed crowd. I’m all about friendly civility. And, at the age many of us are, there WILL BE NO changing political thoughts anyway. Set ways? Set in stone.
re: #326 freetoken
::: rolling eyes ::: Oh dear here we go again.
re: #320 FormerDirtDart
Fair & Balanced
Let’s run images of soldier coffins coming home when Republicans are on tv. (No. Not really. But fuck Fox.)
re: #328 PhillyPretzel
Yeah, the Tea Partiers are really into Trump. He’s their guy.
re: #298 freetoken
There’s a bandwagon effect with Trump that even the Democrats are going to find hard to handle.
I can see millions of Americans attracted to vote for Trump who otherwise would simply not have voted.
We lament the low turnout all the time, but consider this: perhaps the people not voting don’t really care.
If they don’t really care about issues, they might be drawn to a personality.
Interesting. A buddy at the party last night mentioned he heard some statistic that Trump was pulling 75% of people polled that said they do not vote.
I didn’t say it, but I was wondering if that meant they are going to vote now because of Trump, or if they ever got around to voting it would be for Trump. Does the poll even matter???
I just said I had not heard that and moved on. Your comment reminded me of his comment.
So, I got around to peering down rabbit holes on the Charley Project website, and it’s certainly given me quite the education as to the limitations of the law, especially the missing persons section.
When I read through the cases, it’s obvious a few of them are most likely suicides. a few I’d describe as accidental death or death by misadventure, and certainly I’m sure quite a few who’ve simply run off and started their lives over elsewhere. But there are others - like this one:
that reveal the limitations of law enforcement agencies. And then there’s this one:
which caused me to have to go look up Ted Bundy: The young woman in that case, Rhonda Louise Burse, was a dancer at The Flame in Burien, WA. One of Bundy’s victims also worked there, so I had to go back and check. Bundy was in jail when Ms. Burse disappeared.
Now here’s the thing - Ms. Burse has a shocking resemblance to the mom of an ex-girlfriend I lived with back in the early-1990s when I was living in Portland, OR. Indeed, my ex’s resemblance to her mother was uncanny. Her mom would be about the right age for Ms. Burse as well. Wish I knew where my PDX-ex was. Who knows? Maybe a mystery solved.
re: #312 ausador
Holiday stress?…
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Ahh, one of KT’s favorite tellers of “truth”, the undying defense of Cumia ending up being KT’s “hill to die on” here before Charles showed him the door.
Color me surprised that Cumia’s not only a racist bigot, but a violent one at that.
So Trump was on Faux and Friends this morning (the Sunday edition?)
Anyway, Faux luv’s them some Trump.
Anyway, sitting in the middle is the Faux babe, and what I notice is that she’s looking babe-ier than the usual Faux babes, as if they’re dressing their babes to be sluttier than usual.
Here, watch for yourself:
UP @ChuckTodd #Hillary: #Trump Videos #ISIS Best Recruit Tool? https://t.co/g89Kh2zCG4 Like @HillaryClinton Sez Video Cause #Benghazi? #fem2
— ProphetPhella (@ProphetPhella) December 20, 2015
re: #329 GlutenFreeJesus
Let’s run images of soldier coffins coming home when Republicans are on tv. (No. Not really. But fuck Fox.)
I was thinking any time we have Trump being questioned, we can just show images of all the business ventures of his that have gone into bankruptcy.
re: #297 freetoken
I didn’t even know/remember that it was on.
Perhaps the DNC needs to start thinking in terms other than their score-keeping for Hillary. There’s a bigger problem afoot, with the popularity of Trump, than simply making Bernie apologize for some procedural mistake.
The problem with that is that it would involve actually accepting the idea of Donald Trump being elected president. That’s a pretty horrifying thought, and it may be too much for some.
re: #333 TedStriker
Ahh, one of KT’s favorite tellers of “truth”, the undying defense of Cumia ending up being KT’s “hill to die on” here before Charles showed him the door.
Color me surprised that Cumia’s not only a racist bigot, but a violent one at that.
I’ve known that guy was bad news for over a decade, so I knew Killgore was holding a hill zeroed in by Fact Artillery and Decency Mortars, but I could not get him to even consider that he might be wrong. No one could, so Charles had to show him the exit.
re: #336 Targetpractice
I was thinking any time we have Trump being questioned, we can just show images of all the business ventures of his that have gone into bankruptcy.
Or just videos of dogs pooping.
Trump supporter.
@MsJoanne i dont care where he was born. He should hang for Treason, based on his actions
— Jeffrey Coxwell (@JeffreyCoxwell) December 20, 2015
@JeffreyCoxwell and what actions are those?
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) December 20, 2015
@MsJoanne trading bergendhall for 5 [bigoted word]s, arming iran, not upholding our constitution,
— Jeffrey Coxwell (@JeffreyCoxwell) December 20, 2015
@MsJoanne bringing in foreign terrorists, bringing in illegals, his many attempts to disarm us
— Jeffrey Coxwell (@JeffreyCoxwell) December 20, 2015
@MsJoanne obamacare
— Jeffrey Coxwell (@JeffreyCoxwell) December 20, 2015
@JeffreyCoxwell Yup, anything you don’t like. Sorry, just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it illegal or as you like 2 say, treasonous
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) December 20, 2015
re: #337 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that it would involve actually accepting the idea of Donald Trump being elected president. That’s a pretty horrifying thought, and it may be too much for some.
Would you vote for Cruz?
Speaking of Palins:
Cue the gifting grifting.
re: #342 Nyet
Would you vote for Cruz?
If it would keep Donald Trump from getting the nomination? Yes.
Oh…fuck it, I got nothing.
At a debate on a Disney TV channel, Clinton promoted a Disney movie made by a Disney director who gave $1M to her super PAC. #Democracy
— David Sirota (@davidsirota) December 20, 2015
Afternoon from a bus ride from Philly to DC.
re: #344 Dark_Falcon
If it would keep Donald Trump from getting the nomination? Yes.
Don’t play games. Would you vote for Cruz in the election?
Your liberal media at work:
Shameless MSNBC to Air Donald Trump ‘Documentary’ Hosted by Chris Matthews https://t.co/9gvyn3t4sO By @tommyxtopher pic.twitter.com/NKB8r3Vocx
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) December 20, 2015
re: #345 blueraven
Jaunte posted another ultra-lefty dudebro zombie above:
HRC promoting Disney product on Disney network while her SuperPAC receives funding from Disney powerplayer JJ Abrams is democracy in action
— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) December 20, 2015
re: #350 Nyet
One of the images going around Twitter shows all the billionaires who “own” various GOP candidates. The punchline being that Trump is not on that image, thus he’s one of us.
re: #350 Nyet
Jaunte posted another ultra-lefty dudebro zombie above:
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I really am annoyed by these purer than thou lefty types. I may agree with them on prince on most issues but I also realize politics is more than mere ideology too.
Trump isn’t the illness of the GOP. He could implode tomorrow and the party would still be the rotten bunch of racist homophobic sexist shit stain it is with him. Republicans can blame Trump but they’ve created this. Be grown ups and admit you’ve created a party based on resentment and fear of others not like you and maybe you’ll deserve a more kinder fate.
re: #353 HappyWarrior
I really am annoyed by these purer than thou lefty types. I may agree with them on prince on most issues but I also realize politics is more than mere ideology too.
Johnson works for FAIR which turned out to be a Putinist apologetics front. His greatest problem with Putin is that he’s a neo-liberal.
Sirota posts photos of American diplomatic meetings with various dictators to prove something something.
What a buncha.
re: #355 Nyet
Johnson works for FAIR which turned out to be a Putinist apologetics front. His greatest problem with Putin is that he’s a neo-liberal.
Sirota posts photos of American diplomatic meetings with various dictators to prove something something.
What a buncha.
Gotcha. Agh.
re: #345 blueraven
Oh…fuck it, I got nothing.
David Sirota ✔ @davidsirota
At a debate on a Disney TV channel, Clinton promoted a Disney movie made by a Disney director who gave $1M to her super PAC.#Democracy
10:27 AM - 20 Dec 2015
Don’t see much about Sirota around here these day…a chance to use an oldie image.
little davie sirota needs a nappy!re: #359 HappyWarrior
Better.
Yeah, but I’mma have to give credit to Jello Biafra for that one.
I can’t remember the album, but the phrase struck me and stuck me with over the decades.
re: #299 PhillyPretzel
One of the prayers during the High Holy days, Kol Nidre, is in Aramaic.
Kaddish is in Aramaic. Kol Nidre dates from the Middle Ages.
re: #345 blueraven
Oh…fuck it, I got nothing.
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Yes, I’m sure that without Clinton’s close, the movie would be totally tanking.
J.J. Abrams’ Star Wars: The Force Awakens shattered numerous box-office records over the weekend, grossing $238 million in North America — the biggest opening of all time, not accounting for inflation — for a global launch of $517 million.
People. Are. Pathetic.
re: #363 BeachDem
Yes, I’m sure that without Clinton’s close, the movie would be totally tanking.
J.J. Abrams’ Star Wars: The Force Awakens shattered numerous box-office records over the weekend, grossing $238 million in North America — the biggest opening of all time, not accounting for inflation — for a global launch of $517 million.
People. Are. Pathetic.
I think I’m the only person with no real desire to see it. Just not my cup of tea.
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