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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 9:38:13pm

CEO of Aspen/Snowmass has valid opinions.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 9:47:49pm
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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 9:54:47pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:01:21pm
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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:06:39pm

Donald Trump confirmed yesterday that his veterans’ health “plan” is a joke

Mr. Trump met with several executives of private hospital systems at his Mar-a-Lago estate on Wednesday. After the meeting, Mr. Trump called out to reporters, saying he wanted to describe his ideas for changes to the Department of Veterans Affairs, but then quickly directed one of his senior aides to describe the proposals under consideration.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, provided no details about how the plans would work, how much they would cost, or the possibility of unintended consequences from privatizing part of the V.A.’s sprawling medical system.

More at Vox.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:42:35pm
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:43:11pm
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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:47:10pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

Where did the Examiner come up with this tripe? My understanding is that California seeks other solutions than jail for child prostitution (which sometimes is not the child’s idea). How does that morph into “legalising child prostitution?”

Are they trying to spin up wingnuts again, like the pizzeria in DC?

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 10:59:34pm
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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 11:03:43pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Gaaaaa.

And I am “anti-American” for being a liberal.

I’ve heard it said that conservatives cannot win with their ideas, so they have to cheat to win (lie about the opposition, gerrymander House districts, voter suppression laws, &c).

Has that now extended to “collude with a foreign power to subvert elections?”

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 11:06:27pm

re: #10 Anymouse

Soon you will have no rights. Wait. I take that back. You’ll have one right: “Right this way…” into a re-education camp.

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 11:06:54pm

A provisional translation of President Obama’s apology tour Prime Minister of Japan Shinzo Abe’s remarks at Pearl Harbor:

mainichi.jp

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Anymouse  Dec 29, 2016 • 11:56:07pm

Gun loving conservative columnist accidentally killed after letting a teenager hold his firearm.

rawstory.com

M.D. Harmon, a conservative columnist who frequently wrote in favor of gun ownership rights for the Portland Press Herald, died this week after being accidentally shot by a teenage boy.

As the Press Herald itself reports, the 71-year-old Harmon was showing off one of his guns to a 16-year-old boy in his home in Sanford, Maine, on Wednesday. Harmon apparently let the teenager handle the weapon, which went off while the boy was holding it.

Both the teenager and his father were visiting Harmon for undisclosed reasons, and Harmon’s wife has called the shooting an “accidental tragedy.”

Harmon was a dedicated defender of gun ownership rights and would regularly rail against attempts to regulate firearms or even make the use of firearms safer.

More at Raw Story

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2016 • 11:59:00pm

re: #13 Anymouse

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:21:39am

re: #13 Anymouse

Gun loving conservative columnist accidentally killed after letting a teenager hold his firearm.

There was nothing accidental about it. Dude knew the bullet was in the chamber, bullet went down the barrel exactly as it was designed to do, and hit a target, exactly as it is intended to do, and he knowingly and willingly handed the gun to someone who was not trained to use it.

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teleskiguy  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:23:19am

re: #15 Jayleia

There was nothing accidental about it. Dude knew the bullet was in the chamber, bullet went down the barrel exactly as it was designed to do, and hit a target, exactly as it is intended to do, and he knowingly and willingly handed the gun to someone who was not trained to use it.

Bang Bang Sanity, by Jim Wright

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:25:39am

re: #8 Anymouse

Where did the Examiner come up with this tripe? My understanding is that California seeks other solutions than jail for child prostitution (which sometimes is not the child’s idea). How does that morph into “legalising child prostitution?”

Are they trying to spin up wingnuts again, like the pizzeria in DC?

It reflects a Larger Truth, namely that California is an amoral liberal hellhole. Which is why their votes should count for less, if at all.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:33:44am

re: #15 Jayleia

There was nothing accidental about it. Dude knew the bullet was in the chamber, bullet went down the barrel exactly as it was designed to do, and hit a target, exactly as it is intended to do, and he knowingly and willingly handed the gun to someone who was not trained to use it.

Yup. There are no accidental discharges of firearms, only misuse or mishandling of firearms. Consider me corrected here (though to be fair, I lifted the title of the article).

And the minority President-Elect is going to get right on this:

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:35:07am

re: #13 Anymouse

Gun loving conservative columnist accidentally killed after letting a teenager hold his firearm.

rawstory.com

More at Raw Story

I went to the Portland Press Herald and searched through some of Harmon’s old opinion pieces, the guy was just a raging ignorant hard-on about absolutely everything, a complete caricature of modern old white guy conservative headass dumbfuckery. Exactly the kind of retard whose idea of showing off would be to hand his loaded gun to a sixteen year old kid.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:39:26am

re: #9 teleskiguy

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This whole act by the Trump team attempting to minimize, or outright suggest that the US intelligence and law enforcement communities stop investigating Russia’s interference into US elections is REALLY starting to look like someone who isn’t wanting something incriminating to be discovered. For example, members of the Trump campaign being in the loop. Or worse, Trump actually bankrolling and coordinating the Russian attackers. The FBI and CIA (and whoever else is looking into this currently) need to leverage all of their available resources, and use them fast, because come January 20 I get the distinct feeling that Trump will do everything in his power to shut the investigation down completely once he’s in office.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:56:47am

re: #20 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

This whole act by the Trump team attempting to minimize, or outright suggest that the US intelligence and law enforcement communities stop investigating Russia’s interference into US elections is REALLY starting to look like someone who isn’t wanting something incriminating to be discovered. For example, members of the Trump campaign being in the loop. Or worse, Trump actually bankrolling and coordinating the Russian attackers. The FBI and CIA (and whoever else is looking into this currently) need to leverage all of their available resources, and use them fast, because come January 20 I get the distinct feeling that Trump will do everything in his power to shut the investigation down completely once he’s in office.

It’s Okay if You’re a Republican.

Ever since I was old enough to be aware of political mechanisation, it was apparent to me that conservatives were working to undermine the country (that would be back as far as President Nixon).

Everything from demonising their opposition as anti-American to attacking such things as the social safety net and taxation of the wealthy to pay for more military equipment.

I am not enough a student of history to understand all the reasons the Soviet Union came apart, but part of the reason seems to be that they went bankrupt trying to keep up with Ronald Reagan’s military buildup before Ronald Reagan was able to bankrupt us.

Everything from attacks on women’s reproductive rights to free speech zones are designed to curtail liberty, not expand it. I have never in my life seen a conservative seek to expand liberty, not one.

Historically, conservatives opposed setting aside Jim Crow laws (they still do). They opposed setting aside anti-miscegenation laws. They opposed marriage equality. They oppose, oppose, oppose. (On these listed in this paragraph, they justified it with the Bible.)

And if opposing liberals today means throwing in with a foreign power that opposes democratic institutions, then they will do that. People in the Republican Party like Senator Lindsay Graham who are appalled at the revelations will be swept aside as RINOS.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:03:19am

Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) on MSNBC: No evidence of Russian hacking, but if they did succeed in giving the American people information, they did what the media should have done.

Un-American anti-patriots, the lot of them.

huffingtonpost.com

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Alyosha  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:06:18am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

I went to the Portland Press Herald and searched through some of Harmon’s old opinion pieces, the guy was just a raging ignorant hard-on about absolutely everything, a complete caricature of modern old white guy conservative headass dumbfuckery. Exactly the kind of retard whose idea of showing off would be to hand his loaded gun to a sixteen year old kid.

“He died doing what he loved; letting the poorly-trained handle loaded weapons in a cavalier manner while maintaining an air that suggested a totally consequence-free environment. The look of dismay that crossed that lucky teen’s face as he unwittingly discharged the killing shot would have made him smile.”

Retard is right.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:11:53am

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 U.S. Code § 2382 - Misprison of treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

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Alyosha  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:06:51am

re: #24 Anymouse

I notice that many Western nations flinch away from formal charges of treason (mostly because crimes that satisfy the definition are exceedingly rare) and I’ve seen that alot of people shy away from even using the word.
I won’t call it a weakness of democracies, because elements can and do misappropriate the term in its strictest sense… the very application of anti-treason laws does tend to undermine the more liberal aspirations of a nation.
But if Trump’s actions seriously don’t trend towards the integral compromisation of the nation’s security in the face of a hostile country’s covert attempts to influence an election, then the only factor mitigating his culpability would be his personal incompetence.
But considering the people he has surrounded himself with, and his unwillingness to even remain informed of developments pretty much seals it for me.

Trump is a fucking traitor.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:12:43am

re: #25 Alyosha

I notice that many Western nations flinch away from formal charges of treason (mostly because crimes that satisfy the definition are exceedingly rare) and I’ve seen that alot of people shy away from even using the word.
I won’t call it a weakness of democracies, because elements can and do misappropriate the term in its strictest sense… the very application of anti-treason laws does tend to undermine the more liberal aspirations of a nation.
But if Trump’s actions seriously don’t trend towards the integral compromisation of the nation’s security in the face of a hostile country’s covert attempts to influence an election, then the only factor mitigating his culpability would be his personal incompetence.
But considering the people he has surrounded himself with, and his unwillingness to even remain informed of developments pretty much seals it for me.

Trump is a fucking traitor.

Trent Franks is on the House Armed Services Committee, and was saying that Russia was just doing what the the media should have done.

The allegations of hacking by our intelligence services go beyond the DNC: The allegations include hacking of several states’s voter information, including Arizona’s, which Rep. Franks represents.

The Constitution makes a very narrow definition of treason because that charge used to be used all the time in the United Kingdom against the opposition political party. However, “aid and comfort” includes being a propaganda mouthpiece for a foreign power.

I am not a lawyer, but an awful lot of what has come forth from GOP politicians seems to rise to that level. Good luck finding someone to prosecute it in the new minority President’s administration though.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:27:38am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:32:19am

It’s that time of the year when Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall sees how much news coverage he can get:

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:41:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:48:25am

re: #29 Jayleia

ahem (((Anne Frank)))

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:52:49am

re: #28 Timothy Watson

It’s that time of the year when Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall sees how much news coverage he can get:

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I agree with Delegate Marshall. We should start with conservative porn sites like Breitbart and Free Republic. We can then go on to those gun porn organisations that fetishise violence like the NRA.

I am not aware of anyone injured or killed by an erotic Romance novel or a porn Website.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:59:50am

re: #31 Anymouse

I agree with Delegate Marshall. We should start with conservative porn sites like Breitbart and Free Republic. We can then go on to those gun porn organisations that fetishise violence like the NRA.

I am not aware of anyone injured or killed by an erotic Romance novel or a porn Website.

It’s all about men and their inability to control their urges…

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:01:07am

foreignpolicy.com

The Unlikely Origins of Russia’s Manifest Destiny

How an obscure academic and a marginalized philosopher captured the minds of the Kremlin and helped forge the new Russian nationalism.

The article at Foreign Policy talks about how the Russian Empire/Soviet Union/Russian Federation seems to view the world, through the eyes of an English academic from the turn of the XX Century:

It would be extremely unpleasant for Sir Halford Mackinder, a bespectacled and slightly aloof Edwardian academic, to witness the use to which his life’s work has been put in post-communist Russia.

Best-known for a lecture entitled “The Geographical Pivot of History,” which he delivered to the Royal Geographical Society in 1904, Mackinder argued that Russia, not Germany, was Britain’s main strategic opponent. This he illustrated with a colorful theory that came to be known as “geopolitics.” The timing of his prediction, prior to two world wars against Germany, subsequently did not do his theory any favors. However, Mackinder was finally vindicated in the last year of his life by the start of the Cold War, the epitome of his teachings. He saw the world arrayed in pretty much the shape he had foreseen in 1904: Britain and America, whose navies ruled the world’s oceans, against the Soviet Union, the world’s predominant land power, whose vast steppe and harsh winters had defeated Napoleon and Hitler — all but impregnable behind a land fortress, the “Heartland” of Eurasia.

The article continues at FP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:07:42am

re: #33 Anymouse

foreignpolicy.com

The Unlikely Origins of Russia’s Manifest Destiny

How an obscure academic and a marginalized philosopher captured the minds of the Kremlin and helped forge the new Russian nationalism.

Do not forget the Doctrine of Russia as the Third Rome: After the fall of Rome and Byzantium, Russia became the defender of the True Christian Faith.

And a Fourth Rome there shall not be.

Because all cool stuff comes in threes, right?

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:10:10am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do not forget the Doctrine of Russia as the Third Rome: After the fall of Rome and Byzantium, Russia became the defender of the True Christian Faith.

And a Fourth Rome there shall not be.

Because all cool stuff comes in threes, right?

They kind of derailed that “defender of the faith” stuff during the reign of the Soviets, didn’t they?

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:11:25am

A person is not supposed to cough up yellowish-greenish slime, are they?

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:29:28am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s all about men and their inability to control their urges…

Amazing the stuff Freud was right about…

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:42:48am

re: #36 Jayleia

A person is not supposed to cough up yellowish-greenish slime, are they?

Last I heard, no.

If you are doing that, you might want to get that checked out by a physician.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:45:30am

re: #38 Anymouse

Last I heard, no.

If you are doing that, you might want to get that checked out by a physician.

Or an exo-biologist.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:53:26am

Well, I need to get to bed, it’s getting early. Bye, y’all.

Let me leave you with the new GOP anthem:

National Anthem of USSR

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Dave In Austin  Dec 30, 2016 • 3:59:30am

Jesus, this thread is vile.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:07:59am

re: #41 Dave In Austin

Somehow I think I will follow my instinct and not “read the comments “.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:19:28am

re: #41 Dave In Austin

Jesus, this thread is vile.

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Party over country. Anything to win.

Refer to the GOP Anthem above.

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:25:25am

re: #42 William Lewis

Somehow I think I will follow my instinct and not “read the comments “.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:32:50am

re: #4 teleskiguy

The truth is out there but the lies are in your head. - Terry Pratchett

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:33:45am

re: #35 Anymouse

They kind of derailed that “defender of the faith” stuff during the reign of the Soviets, didn’t they?

Even Stalin was not beyond coming to an accommodation with the Orthodox church when he needed their support during WW2

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:37:40am

re: #8 Anymouse

I sincerely doubt many children think, “I could get that cool Pokemon if I just sell my body to a pervert.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:38:35am

re: #47 Romantic Heretic

I sincerely doubt many children think, “I could get that cool Pokemon if I just sell my body to a pervert.”

They just haven’t learned how depraved some people can be.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:50:17am

re: #21 Anymouse

I’ll disagree with the Reagan build up as the main reason for the Soviet Union coming apart. It was, in my opinion, trying to keep up with the West from the beginning.

The Soviet Union never did have the manufacturing capability to keep up. I understand that close to a third of Soviet GDP went to national security. Since national security is, in the words of John Ralston Saul, “A political necessity but an economic negative”, the Soviet Union couldn’t help but implode.

Although, again in my opinion, the US may follow because I think it’s spending far more than it needs on national security.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:55:54am

re: #49 Romantic Heretic

Gorbachev also realized that without computers, they could not keep up. But with PC’s everywhere, there was no way they could continue to have a monopoly on the spread of information.

They were also very bad a getting things from prototype to production stage, as the entire concept of entrepreneurship was not part of their system.

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:00:58am

re: #31 Anymouse

I agree with Delegate Marshall. We should start with conservative porn sites like Breitbart and Free Republic. We can then go on to those gun porn organisations that fetishise violence like the NRA.

I am not aware of anyone injured or killed by an erotic Romance novel or a porn Website.

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s all about men and their inability to control their urges…

*cough* BULLSHIT *cough*

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:03:23am

re: #40 Anymouse

The Soviet Union was a horrible place but damned if it didn’t have a glorious national anthem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:04:12am

re: #52 Romantic Heretic

The Soviet Union was a horrible place but damned if it didn’t have a glorious national anthem.

and a glorious subway system in Moscow

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:05:41am

re: #52 Romantic Heretic

The Soviet Union was a horrible place but damned if it didn’t have a glorious national anthem.

If I ever started my own country, this song is one of the favorites for the national anthem.

15 The Symphonic Jean Michel Jarre - The Emigrant


No, there would be no lyrics.

So, how glorious is this song ;) ?

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:08:01am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They occasionally got things pretty close to right.

T-34

IL-2

MiG-15

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:09:30am

re: #54 Teukka

That’s pretty damned good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:09:58am

re: #55 Romantic Heretic

They occasionally got things pretty close to right.

T-34

IL-2

MiG-15

Natasha

Galia

Svetlana…

*sigh*

I lived in Moscow for a coupla years in the wild and crazy early 90’s…

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:13:49am

re: #55 Romantic Heretic

They occasionally got things pretty close to right.

T-34

IL-2

MiG-15

AK-47

RPG-7

I know Tom Clancy went full metal wingnut, but there was some joke in one of his books about when the Russian/Soviets ended up with something good, they made a billion copies and stuck them in warehouses.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:15:38am

re: #52 Romantic Heretic

The Soviet Union was a horrible place but damned if it didn’t have a glorious national anthem.

The music is quite stirring.

The lyrics (in English, probably ought to learn them before January 20):

A union that’s unbreakable, of free republics,
Great Russia has welded forever to stand!
Long live the creation of the will of the people,
The united, mighty Soviet Union!

CHORUS:
Glory to the fatherland, land of the free
A reliable stronghold of peoples’ friendship!
Party of Lenin, strength of the people,
Leads us to the triumph of Communism!

Through tempests the sun of freedom shone to us,
And the great Lenin illuminated our path,
To a just cause he raised up the peoples,
To labour and heroic deeds he inspired us!

CHORUS

In the victory of the immortal ideas of Communism
We see the future of our country,
And to the Red Banner of our glorious Fatherland
We shall always be selflessly true!

CHORUS

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:19:22am

I got my brother-in-law a copy of the Red Army Choir’s album of Soviet-era music, as he is an amateur Russia-buff and speaks Russian.

My sister-in-law is a physician from the former Soviet Union.

He popped the CD in his stereo when he got it, and cranked up the Soviet National Anthem … he says his wife came after him with a rolling pin. (She really hates communist inspired music.)

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:32:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:41:35am

Natasha was something right out of a spy novel: She had a chemistry degree from the Mendeleyev Institute, the Soviet equivalent of MIT or Berkeley, she was intellectual, could quote at length from poets like Tsvetaeva, Mandel’shtam, Akhmatova or Yesenin, a chain-smoking, alcoholic nymphomaniac, also spoke fluent English and worked as an interpreter for the 1980 Olympics.
She told me that because of that she came into contact with the security services, who tried to recruit her as a “special agent”, decked her out in diamonds and a snort black dress (which she had to sign for) and sent her to an Intourist hotel, where she was instructed to collect information from a group of suspected international drug smugglers “using all means at her disposal”.
But she said she was young (barely nineteen) and innocent and could not bring herself to go through with it (despite being incredibly hot and ready to go, she was somehow terribly prude about it).
All I can say is that they Cold War might have ended differently if she had gone to work for them:
“Here, take the blueprints, copy the diskettes…whatever you want…JUST LET ME REST FOR HALF AN HOUR BEFORE WE GO AT IT AGAIN!”

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:44:01am

huffingtonpost.com

Mormons launch a petition to urge the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to forego performing for the minority-President Elect’s inauguration.

A Mormon who said his “heart sank” when he heard that the church’s beloved Tabernacle Choir will perform at Donald Trump’s inauguration has launched a petition to urge the group not to go to Washington, D.C.

“I love the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. The thought of this choir and Mormonism being forever associated with a man who disparages minorities, brags about his sexual control of women, encourages intolerance and traffics in hate speech and bullying, was unacceptable,” Randall Thacker said in a statement. “I immediately knew there were probably thousands of people who felt the same way, so I created the space on change.org for like-minded Mormons and their friends to share their feelings.”

As of last night, 19,000 people signed the petition. It is to be delivered personally to the Choir when it reaches 25,000 signatures.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:44:18am

re: #60 Anymouse

I got my brother-in-law a copy of the Red Army Choir’s album of Soviet-era music, as he is an amateur Russia-buff and speaks Russian.

My sister-in-law is a physician from the former Soviet Union.

He popped the CD in his stereo when he got it, and cranked up the Soviet National Anthem … he says his wife came after him with a rolling pin. (She really hates communist inspired music.)

I remember people walking out of the Academy Award presentation for the Warren Beatty/Diane Keaton movie “Reds” when they started playing the International as the film theme music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:45:18am

re: #63 Anymouse

huffingtonpost.com

Mormons launch a petition to urge the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to forego performing for the minority-President Elect’s inauguration.

As of last night, 19,000 people signed the petition. It is to be delivered personally to the Choir when it reaches 25,000 signatures.

I wonder if Mitt Romney signed it at the top in big letters

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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:53:26am

Imgur


Good morning!

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:53:55am

Greets and saluts from the NYC Metro Area. Looks like the #PutinPickedPumpkin wants to make Russia great again, and is still pushing Russia’s line about hacking/psyops in election to help Trump defeat Clinton.

Putin’s backed off retaliatory expulsions of US diplomats from Russia, even as Russia has continued harassing US diplomats in Russia.

The US kicked out a bunch of Russian agents and Trump’s spokeshack thinks that this is simply impossible. She thinks the Russians don’t have military or intel assets here in the US. That’s stunning level of incompetence or flat out ignorance, or a new low in agitprop that inures benefit to Russia.

Of course Russia has agents here in the US. The US has agents in Russia. That’s how the intel game is played. Humint is one aspect of intel gathering to find out what is going on in the other nation, and Russia elevated that to include psyops to undermine Clinton’s chances in the just concluded election.

It’s as though these right wing nutters ignore that Russia engaged in these kinds of operations in the past. Anyone forget Anna Chapman and the Russian spy ring busted in 2010? Russia has been doing psyops and intel ops for decades (including when it was the USSR). They’re pretty good at it.

That Conway and Trump think that this isn’t real, or think it isn’t a threat shows just how much in the bag they are for Russia. The GOP that isn’t speaking out against this - and that’s nearly all of them - can no longer claim to be patriots, not when their standard bearer and PEOTUS is actively pushing the Russia lie (and line). The #PutinPickedPumpkin doesn’t have US best interests in mind, and his statements show that he doesn’t care. He’s more interested in fleecing the American people, and the GOP leadership is interested only in how they can exploit Trump and their current position of power to ram through their regressive and extreme agenda that again harms most Americans (especially those least able to handle the additional burdens).

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:54:57am
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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 5:56:34am

re: #68 lawhawk

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Which country is this supposed to be good for?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:00:04am

Galya was half-Tatar, her full name was Galina Gaidarovna Fetkhetdinovna, which, she told me, means “The Triumph of Islam” in Tatar.

All I could say was “Jeeeeehad, baby!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:00:54am

re: #69 Anymouse

Which country is this supposed to be good for?

The REAL America (not those coastal wastelands)

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:01:13am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:04:06am
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(alpuz)  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:15:05am

re: #68 lawhawk

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Kellyanne Conway is straight up evil.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:26:48am

re: #74 (alpuz)

Kellyanne Conway is straight up evil.

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So hear this hackers, The Don is cool with it. Now guys, we would really like to see The Dons IRS filings and maybe a list of his business holdings.

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:26:55am

re: #74 (alpuz)

It’s amazing how someone with such a smooth voice comes off as chainsaws-on-a-chalkboard cringe-inducing. I’ll give her credit for chutzpah though.

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(alpuz)  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:33:10am

re: #76 Jayleia

She’s the incarnation of every asshole I’ve ever had the displeasure of coming across since I was was a kid. Wow. Surreal.

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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:55:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 6:57:49am

OK. I finally went and done it.

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Anymouse  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:06:39am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The REAL America (not those coastal wastelands)

The part which contains the Rocky Ural Mountains?

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Skip Intro  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:11:45am

re: #74 (alpuz)

She has dead eyes and I’m sick of seeing her lying on tv. I find her to be more frightening than Trump because what she is represents millions of Trumpsters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:17:54am

re: #28 Timothy Watson

It’s that time of the year when Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall sees how much news coverage he can get:

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Agh poor Varek.

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(alpuz)  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:19:36am

re: #81 Skip Intro

She has dead eyes and I’m sick of seeing her lying on tv. I find her to be more frightening than Trump because what she is represents millions of Trumpsters.

She’s the ultimate condescending, lying, ladder climber. She’s everything that disgusts me about humanity perfectly packaged into a bottomless pit of bullshit. I apologize if I’m coming across as a real bummer this morning, I’ve been freaked out by her before but that interview really took it to a whole new level.

Back to just stopping by and doing other stuff this morning… but, damn.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:19:36am

re: #29 Jayleia

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Oh really Piers? Fuck you and your generation bashing. I’m proud of my grandparents generation but I’d also point out that this generation of “wusses” you mock is also by far more tolerant of people of different backgrounds than previous generations were and that is osmething ot be proud of. I know it makes bitter old fucks like Morgan feel better to rag on millenials because they’re bitter old fucks but my God just stop it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:20:22am

re: #41 Dave In Austin

Jesus, this thread is vile.

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Dowd is a former Bush admin guy isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:22:29am

re: #61 Anymouse

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Sure Dinesh you can do that but you can stop criticizing the patriotism of other Americans. Putin didn’t do what he did for you, he did it because he saw Clinton as a threat to his power and he knows he can put his hand up Trump’s ass and Trump will do whatever he wants.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:35:17am

re: #10 Anymouse

Gaaaaa.

And I am “anti-American” for being a liberal.

I’ve heard it said that conservatives cannot win with their ideas, so they have to cheat to win (lie about the opposition, gerrymander House districts, voter suppression laws, &c).

Has that now extended to “collude with a foreign power to subvert elections?”

I am anti-American because I supported Hillary and not Bernie.

Go figure. Strange times.

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:37:10am
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:37:32am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:39:04am

re: #87 ObserverArt

I am anti-American because I supported Hillary and not Bernie.

Go figure. Strange times.

A lot of them are throwing tantrums over Tom Perez emerging as a possible favorite for the DNC Chair. If Tom Perez isn’t progressive enough for you, there’s something wrong with you.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:40:18am

A quick thought about blaming Obama for knowing about this earlier and not doing something: He went to Congress and McConnell said he’d consider it a partisan attack. In hindsight, Obama should have done something anyway, but McConnell gets a good chunk of blame.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:41:52am

re: #91 Belafon

A quick thought about blaming Obama for knowing about this earlier and not doing something: He went to Congress and McConnell said he’d consider it a partisan attack. In hindsight, Obama should have done something anyway, but McConnell gets a good chunk of blame.

Sounds right to me. McConnell is a disgrace. Yeah it’s just a coincidence that he threatened to make it out to be partisan politics and his wife ends up landing a job in the Trump administration. The guy’s part of the swamp that Trump has leid about drainng.

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:48:46am
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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:51:40am

That A-list of celebrities reaches all the way to Utah.

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:56:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 7:58:37am

re: #95 darthstar

Looking like it’s gonna be Ted Nugent for the Inauguration.

LOLOLOL

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:00:21am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

Looking like it’s gonna be Ted Nugent for the Inauguration.

LOLOLOL

Him, Kid Rock, Wayne Newton, and the wingnut Beach Boy. Though I did like Mike Tyson’s rendition of In the Air Tonight in the Hangover so maybe he’ll sing too. Tom Brady and Bob Knight can do a duet together.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:01:26am

{rod_serling}Picture if you will:{/rod_serling}

Take what’s going on with the Trump camp right now and leave all of it as it is, but substitute Hillary Clinton for Donald Trump.

Let’s say Hillary wins the EC but loses the popular vote by 2 million+.

The entire intelligence apparatus says there is conclusive evidence Russian intel with direct involvement of Vladimir Putin hacked the RNC and deliberately tried to influence the election in her favor against Trump.

She refuses to hold press conferences and does not attend daily intel briefings.

She stacks her cabinet full of people with direct ties to Putin and Russian oligarchy.

And let’s remember that during the campaign, she could be relied upon to take every self-contradicting, mutually-exclusive position on every issue she ever spoke about, with the sole exception being her attitudes towards Russia in general and Putin specifically, whom she has never criticized even mildly and has always defended.

When the current president enacts sanctions against Russia in response to the election meddling, she says, “ho-hum, time to move on”. She has her official campaign propagandists saying all the exact same shit Trump’s are saying.

If Hillary had done all that, there would be nothing coming from Republicans but a non-stop torrent of howls for investigation upon investigation at bare minimum. It would be a national emergency on the scale of Pearl Harbor as far as they were concerned. Hell, even the mainstream media might notice a little. Maybe.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:02:52am

re: #98 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

{rod_serling}Picture if you will:{/rod_serling}

Take what’s going on with the Trump camp right now and leave all of it as it is, but substitute Hillary Clinton for Donald Trump.

Let’s say Hillary wins the EC but loses the popular vote by 2 million+.

The entire intelligence apparatus says there is conclusive evidence Russian intel with direct involvement of Vladimir Putin hacked the RNC and deliberately tried to influence the election in her favor against Trump.

She refuses to hold press conferences and does not attend daily intel briefings.

She stacks her cabinet full of people with direct ties to Putin and Russian oligarchy.

And let’s remember that during the campaign, she could be relied upon to take every self-contradicting, mutually-exclusive position on every issue she ever spoke about, with the sole exception being her attitudes towards Russia in general and Putin specifically, whom she has never criticized even mildly and has always defended.

When the current president enacts sanctions against Russia in response to the election meddling, she says, “ho-hum, time to move on”. She has her official campaign propagandists saying all the exact same shit Trump’s are saying.

If Hillary had done all that, there would be nothing coming from Republicans but a non-stop torrent of howls for investigation upon investigation at bare minimum. It would be a national emergency on the scale of Pearl Harbor as far as they were concerned. Hell, even the mainstream media might notice a little. Maybe.

No frigging kidding.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:04:27am

re: #98 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

{rod_serling}Picture if you will:{/rod_serling}

Take what’s going on with the Trump camp right now and leave all of it as it is, but substitute Hillary Clinton for Donald Trump.

Let’s say Hillary wins the EC but loses the popular vote by 2 million+.

The entire intelligence apparatus says there is conclusive evidence Russian intel with direct involvement of Vladimir Putin hacked the RNC and deliberately tried to influence the election in her favor against Trump.

She refuses to hold press conferences and does not attend daily intel briefings.

She stacks her cabinet full of people with direct ties to Putin and Russian oligarchy.

And let’s remember that during the campaign, she could be relied upon to take every self-contradicting, mutually-exclusive position on every issue she ever spoke about, with the sole exception being her attitudes towards Russia in general and Putin specifically, whom she has never criticized even mildly and has always defended.

When the current president enacts sanctions against Russia in response to the election meddling, she says, “ho-hum, time to move on”. She has her official campaign propagandists saying all the exact same shit Trump’s are saying.

If Hillary had done all that, there would be nothing coming from Republicans but a non-stop torrent of howls for investigation upon investigation at bare minimum. It would be a national emergency on the scale of Pearl Harbor as far as they were concerned. Hell, even the mainstream media might notice a little. Maybe.

If the scenario you outlined came to pass, the GOP would have an impeachment committee ready to go five minutes after she took the oath of office.

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool, IMHO.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:08:17am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

If the scenario you outlined came to pass, the GOP would have an impeachment committee ready to go five minutes after she took the oath of office.

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool, IMHO.

If any Democrat talked about Putin the way Trump does…………… They’d be on that Dem faster than McCarthy was on a cheap whiskey bottle.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:09:28am

Speaking of Whiskey. My New Year’s gift for myself.
thepoguesirishwhiskey.com

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I cannot.  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:13:09am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

If the scenario you outlined came to pass, the GOP would have an impeachment committee ready to go five minutes after she took the oath of office.

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool, IMHO.

I’d like to think WE would have articles of impeachment drawn up before they did but we PROBABLY would take longer since she is on our team…an hour, tops.

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:13:33am

Eartha yesterday…starting shit with Banjo…

And finishing it…

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:16:40am

I can’t wait to see Trump do this.

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:23:56am

Trump Can’t Jump

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:25:32am

re: #105 darthstar

I can’t wait to see Trump do this.

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LOL Trump would end up in Walter Reed if he tried something like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:27:51am

re: #80 Anymouse

The part which contains the Rocky Ural Mountains?

Reminded of my favorite National Lampoon Radio show sketch: The Immigrants

You’re from up Ural Way? Y’all know the Fadeyevich family?

-Yeah, Natasha Jean’s a good friend of mine!

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KGxvi  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:35:05am

re: #8 Anymouse

Where did the Examiner come up with this tripe? My understanding is that California seeks other solutions than jail for child prostitution (which sometimes is not the child’s idea). How does that morph into “legalising child prostitution?”

Are they trying to spin up wingnuts again, like the pizzeria in DC?

Under the previous version of the law, both parties (the prostitute and the john) were criminally liable. Under this version, if the prostitute is a minor, they are not criminally liable, but may be adjudged a dependent of the court and taken into protective custody.

The internal wingnut logic goes something like this: they used to send the little slut to jail for selling her whore body on the streets, now they don’t, err goes, child prostitution is now legal in California

The California penal code states that the age of consent is 18 (though there are some civil appellate cases that say someone under the age of 18 may give consent, it - like most things involving teenage sexuality (for lack of a better word) - is complicated). Combined with California contract law regarding minors entering into contracts, it actually makes sense to say a minor shouldn’t be liable in these situations. My guess is that this is meant to protect minors who are forced into prostitution but will likely also serve to protect those who choose to do so.

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:37:26am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

LOL Trump would end up in Walter Reed if he tried something like that.

That’s probably the only way they’ll get him to visit.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:38:36am
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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:39:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:42:33am

re: #110 darthstar

That’s probably the only way they’ll get him to visit.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:45:41am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:51:10am

re: #114 Timothy Watson

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That’s fake news for you.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:05:25am

re: #109 KGxvi

Under the previous version of the law, both parties (the prostitute and the john) were criminally liable. Under this version, if the prostitute is a minor, they are not criminally liable, but may be adjudged a dependent of the court and taken into protective custody.

The internal wingnut logic goes something like this: they used to send the little slut to jail for selling her whore body on the streets, now they don’t, err goes, child prostitution is now legal in California

The California penal code states that the age of consent is 18 (though there are some civil appellate cases that say someone under the age of 18 may give consent, it - like most things involving teenage sexuality (for lack of a better word) - is complicated). Combined with California contract law regarding minors entering into contracts, it actually makes sense to say a minor shouldn’t be liable in these situations. My guess is that this is meant to protect minors who are forced into prostitution but will likely also serve to protect those who choose to do so.

Similar mindset to those who jail women for being raped… .

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:07:00am

re: #72 Jayleia

“breasted boobily to the stairs and titted downwards…”

Oh my. I have never before encountered the word “boobily” nor have I seen “tit” used as a verb. The writer is obviously a bottle baby.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:09:16am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

When white folks die from drug addiction, we’re supposed to give a fuck…

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:09:18am

re: #89 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:10:26am

re: #120 lawhawk

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Maybe it was in tiny print on the GOP platform “We accept Russian hacking if it benefits our party and candidate.”

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KGxvi  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:11:48am

re: #117 Birth Control Works

Similar mindset to those who jail women for being raped… .

Technically, this change could open the door for johns being liable for statutory rape as well (assuming the sex act was performed).

But I don’t practice criminal law, so I don’t know if that would actually be the case.

It’s a complicated area of law and policy, and overlaps with many other areas that can also get complicated or at least convoluted. Personally, I tend to lean towards legalization/regulation of prostitution but that’s mostly because of my libertarian sensibilities and general rejection of puritanism/fundamentalism.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:13:01am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

When white folks die from drug addiction, we’re supposed to give a fuck…

Hope is essential to battling addiction, and so is money, and that’s an urgent issue in Ross County. Congress recently approved, and President Obama signed, health legislation that includes funding to fight the opioid epidemic. But Ross County voters last month rejected for the first time in three decades a property tax levy that funds a variety of health services, including a weekly clinic for addicts and a program to distribute naloxone to people with family members at risk of overdosing.

Pennywise and pound foolish —a Conservative meme.

Imposing some twisted morality wrapped-up as fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, and hellfire consequences.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:14:42am

re: #122 KGxvi

Technically, this change could open the door for johns being liable for statutory rape as well (assuming the sex act was performed).

But I don’t practice criminal law, so I don’t know if that would actually be the case.

It’s a complicated area of law and policy, and overlaps with many other areas that can also get complicated or at least convoluted. Personally, I tend to lean towards legalization/regulation of prostitution but that’s mostly because of my libertarian sensibilities and general rejection of puritanism/fundamentalism.

Underage rape for profit does fit the bill for statutory rape —but that makes way to much sense for prosecuters.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:16:04am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

If the scenario you outlined came to pass, the GOP would have an impeachment committee ready to go five minutes after she took the oath of office.

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool, IMHO.

We’ve got a lot of fools.

The most recent count was slightly less than 63,000,000 on November 8th.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:16:27am

re: #122 KGxvi

Can’t speak for California, but in Virginia prostitution where an adult is solicited is only a misdemeanor; if a minor is involved it’s a felony that will land someone on the sex offender registry.

(Used to work in the criminal justice field before anyone asks.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:16:28am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

When white folks die from drug addiction, we’re supposed to give a fuck…

Yeah, but when POCs do drugs, it’s because they’re morally corrupt. They’re just lazy and unwilling to work or they’d get jobs. White people are different. When they do drugs, it’s because Mexico and China stole their jobs. Nothing they could do about it.
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KGxvi  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:17:05am

re: #124 Birth Control Works

Underage rape for profit does fit the bill for statutory rape —but that makes way to much sense for prosecuters.

It may well have already been the case that there was liability. Like I said, I don’t practice criminal law, so I don’t know the governing law very well.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:17:11am

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but when POCs do drugs, it’s because they’re morally corrupt. They’re just lazy and unwilling to work or they’d get jobs. White people are different. When they do drugs, it’s because Mexico and China stole their jobs. Nothing they could do about it.
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Anger is the same way as you know.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:17:58am

As a white woman, I can tell you with some authority that we are born with a Get Out of Jail Free card. Two if we have blonde hair, blue eyes, or big boobs.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:20:12am

re: #130 Birth Control Works

As a white woman, I can tell you with some authority that we are born with a Get Out of Jail Free card. Two if we have blonde hair, blue eyes, or big boobs.

It’s a similar phenom that the majority of people on “welfare” are white. Yet there is no call to arms (figuratively speaking and not) as there is with the concept of the inner-city black welfare mom.

Or the suburban black kid walking with skittles.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:22:07am

re: #131 Birth Control Works

It’s a similar phenom that the majority of people on “welfare” are white. Yet there is no call to arms (figuratively speaking and not) as there is with the concept of the inner-city black welfare mom.

Or the suburban black kid walking with skittles.

Can you give me a link on that? I’ve had many claim that the majority on welfare are black to me. Oh and there’s a special place for Reagan for using the notorious “Welfare Queen” to scare up his base. I did some research. 4% of Americans are on Welfare and most people on Welfare are kids. As my Dad told his wingnut friend, (you) the friend would rather bomb people than feed starving kids.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:22:38am

re: #123 Birth Control Works

Pennywise and pound foolish —a Conservative meme.

Imposing some twisted morality wrapped-up as fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, and hellfire consequences.

Reminds me of the former United States Attorney for the Western District of Virginia (John Brownlee (R)) who spoke out against a proposed drug treatment center in Roanoke County (middle to upper class white) but didn’t have a thing to say when one was proposed in an African-American community in the City of Roanoke.

The one in the County never was approved, but the one in the City was. A couple years later the local paper ran a story about the crime concerns about the one in the City and the only complaint the police had were an overprotective alarm system that they had gotten several calls from before the center and alarm company fixed the problem.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:22:43am

WHAT?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:23:43am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

As an aside, it’s believed there may well be a serial killer running around Chillicothe.

O_O

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:23:54am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Can you give me a link on that? I’ve had many claim that the majority on welfare are black to me. Oh and there’s a special place for Reagan for using the notorious “Welfare Queen” to scare up his base. I did some research. 4% of Americans are on Welfare and most people on Welfare are kids. As my Dad told his wingnut friend, (you) the friend would rather bomb people than feed starving kids.

Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:24:13am

re: #134 Birth Control Works

WHAT?

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Fox needs their viewers angry. This was no accident. They know exactly what they’re doing when they spoonfeed bullshit like this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:24:14am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Anger is the same way as you know.

Gee, all those memes from wingnuts showing derelict neighborhoods and blaming Democratic city government - when will they be showing the shuttered factories in Republican counties and small towns and blaming Republican government?
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:24:42am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Here’s a HP article about the percentage of Whites on welfare.

huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:24:48am

re: #136 Birth Control Works

Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly

Welfare not food stamps. but thanks.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:25:06am

Morning Lizardim.

*slowly collapses to the floor*

How go things among the lizardfolk?

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KGxvi  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:25:14am

re: #126 Timothy Watson

Can’t speak for California, but in Virginia prostitution where an adult is solicited is only a misdemeanor; if a minor is involved it’s a felony that will land someone on the sex offender registry.

(Used to work in the criminal justice field before anyone asks.)

I’m rereading the law, and it looks like solicitation is a misdemeanor (even if a minor is involved). It’s 45 days in county jail for a first offense (and no leeway for the court to give a lighter sentence or probation without serving 45 days). If a minor is involved, they add a minimum of 2 days and a maximum of 1 year to the sentence, and/or a fine up to $10,000.

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KGxvi  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:26:59am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Welfare not food stamps. but thanks.

(it’ll still work, in wingnut eyes - once you get past the 1000 yard stare - it’s all the same)

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:27:46am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Welfare not food stamps. but thanks.

Well, there is really no category known as “welfare”. One has to break it down by benefit.

Many include Social Security/Disability as a “entitlement”. Which, it is not.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:28:17am

re: #141 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim.

*slowly collapses to the floor*

How go things among the lizardfolk?

Yeah, that.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:28:17am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:28:43am

re: #143 KGxvi

(it’ll still work, in wingnut eyes - once you get past the 1000 yard stare - it’s all the same)

I know. I will spread it along. It’s all bullshit anyhow. Most people on public assitance who can work do in fact work and many often work two jobs.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:28:53am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Fox needs their viewers angry. This was no accident. They know exactly what they’re doing when they spoonfeed bullshit like this.

yeah —It’s a self-congratulatory cult.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:30:00am

re: #148 Birth Control Works

yeah —It’s a self-congratulatory cult.

Rage re-enforcement. Dad knows another guy who only gets his news from FNC. Honest to God, he’s a pleasant enough guy but politically he’s just not smart.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:30:56am

re: #144 Birth Control Works

Well, there is really no category known as “welfare”. One has to break it down by benefit.

Many include Social Security/Disability as a “entitlement”. Which, it is not.

Oh, I feel stupid now. I agree though. Callling Social Security an entitlement is bullshit. We pay in to that from the minute we get our first jobs.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:31:03am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Rage re-enforcement. Dad knows another guy who only gets his news from FNC. Honest to God, he’s a pleasant enough guy but politically he’s just not smart.

Which is why I think we should call FOX the two minutes hate channel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:32:19am

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

Gee, all those memes from wingnuts showing derelict neighborhoods and blaming Democratic city government - when will they be showing the shuttered factories in Republican counties and small towns and blaming Republican government?
/////

The favorite wingnut meme for Detroit shows the ruins of the old Packard plant…which closed in 1958! (A Republican was Mayor then. He was convicted of corruption & went to the slammer)

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:34:10am

re: #146 Stanley Sea

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Pretty cool. I guess it assumes that the legs, if vertical, can support the weight of the person.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:35:39am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Oh, I feel stupid now. I agree though. Callling Social Security an entitlement is bullshit. We pay in to that from the minute we get our first jobs.

That’s what MAKES IT an entitlement. Social Security and Medicare are paid for by the recipients all their working lives, so they’re ENTITLED to it. Same for Veteran’s benefit.

Somewhere along the line, ‘entitlement’ became a bad word.

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calochortus  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:35:44am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Oh, I feel stupid now. I agree though. Callling Social Security an entitlement is bullshit. We pay in to that from the minute we get our first jobs.

Actually, SS is the perfect example of an entitlement. It is something you have a right to-in the case of SS because you paid into it. Of course, most people get more back than they paid in, but it remains an entitlement. It is only the last few decades that there is a negative connotation to entitlement.

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calochortus  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:36:19am

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

5 stupid seconds…

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:37:31am

re: #155 calochortus

Actually, SS is the perfect example of an entitlement. It is something you have a right to-in the case of SS because you paid into it. Of course, most people get more back than they paid in, but it remains an entitlement. It is only the last few decades that there is a negative connotation to entitlement.

There’s a negative connotation because of the “entitlement mentality” that older generations have started attributing to younger generations. All y’all who have been hating on millennials can just get off your own goddamn lawns, now./// But seriously, there are a lot of things that we are legitimately entitled to, but using that word gets you dirty looks and condescending remarks.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:37:33am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Can you give me a link on that? I’ve had many claim that the majority on welfare are black to me. Oh and there’s a special place for Reagan for using the notorious “Welfare Queen” to scare up his base. I did some research. 4% of Americans are on Welfare and most people on Welfare are kids. As my Dad told his wingnut friend, (you) the friend would rather bomb people than feed starving kids.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:38:50am

So this is on CNN right now… on my iPhone. Rendering issue of the video frame, obviously, but…

cnn.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:39:26am

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

The favorite wingnut meme for Detroit shows the ruins of the old Packard plant…which closed in 1958! (A Republican was Mayor then. He was convicted of corruption & went to the slammer)

When Mrs. FBW was young, she managed to convince her Dad that she knew cars, because whenever he’d ask, “What kind of car is that?”, she’d answer correctly.

Here’s the thing - her Dad ONLY ever asked that when he saw a Packard. So she’d say “Packard!”, and of course she was right.

When we watch old movies together, I keep my eye out for Packards, and whenever I see one, I ask “What kind of car is that?” She’s always right!

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:39:48am

re: #157 thedopefishlives

There’s a negative connotation because of the “entitlement mentality” that older generations have started attributing to younger generations. All y’all who have been hating on millennial can just get off your own goddamn lawns, now./// But seriously, there are a lot of things that we are legitimately entitled to, but using that word gets you dirty looks and condescending remarks.

“The millenials and their entitlement mindset”

whatever the hell that means …

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:40:34am

re: #89 Belafon

Unless it helps them gain power. In which case. “Move on, already!”.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:41:24am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

“The millenials and their entitlement mindset”

whatever the hell that means …

Something about bootstraps and small government and damn kids these days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:41:48am

re: #157 thedopefishlives

There’s a negative connotation because of the “entitlement mentality” that older generations have started attributing to younger generations. All y’all who have been hating on millennials can just get off your own goddamn lawns, now./// But seriously, there are a lot of things that we are legitimately entitled to, but using that word gets you dirty looks and condescending remarks.

Yeah. They started sometime around the Dawn Of Time. The younger generation always has it easier than whatever generation is speaking. And they’re always going to be the death of whatever country that generation lives in.

Them, and immigrants.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:43:24am

re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White

When Mrs. FBW was young, she managed to convince her Dad that she knew cars, because whenever he’d ask, “What kind of car is that?”, she’d answer correctly.

Here’s the thing - her Dad ONLY ever asked that when he saw a Packard. So she’d say “Packard!”, and of course she was right.

When we watch old movies together, I keep my eye out for Packards, and whenever I see one, I ask “What kind of car is that?” She’s always right!

I was born and raised in Detroit, I work in the auto industry and I know all kinds of cars but I don’t think I would recognize a Packard if I saw one on the street, which would only be during the Dream Cruise of Classic Cars that takes place every August.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:43:44am

re: #161 Birth Control Works

“The millenials and their entitlement mindset”

whatever the hell that means …

“They think they’re entitled to free college, like my generation could get! And a well-paid job right out of college, like my generation could get! And an apartment with affordable rent, like my generation could get!”

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calochortus  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:43:51am

Speaking of moving on-I’d better get some stuff done.

BBL

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:44:10am

Somebody mentioned this yesterday, or the day before:
Of Course People Are Turning to Women’s Magazines for Quality Political Coverage

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:46:00am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

I was born and raised in Detroit, I work in the auto industry and I know all kinds of cars but I don’t think I would recognize a Packard if I saw one on the street, which would only be during the Dream Cruise of Classic Cars that takes place every August.

The shape of the grill is the giveaway. Very distinctive, and they used the same basic shape all the way till the end.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:46:26am

re: #167 calochortus

Speaking of moving on-I’d better get some stuff done.

BBL

Getting stuff done is highly overrated.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:51:28am

I dragged my fat ass out yesterday for the last ride of the year. ~20 miles. It wasn’t one of those rides where you feel like a god and you could go on forever, or one of those where you look at your Strava feed afterwards and see lots of personal bests. It was one of those where you feel every year of your age.

BUT I kept going! That’s what counts, right?

I saw a group of 5 deer, one at least a 4x4 buck (8-point, for those of you in the East). But that wasn’t all! A couple miles later, zooming downhill at about 30 mph, I noticed a shape next to the road. As I flashed by, I realized it was a coyote, about 8 feet from me! He looked bored.

Even on the worst rides, there’s usually something like that.

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KGxvi  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:52:29am

re: #164 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. They started sometime around the Dawn Of Time. The younger generation always has it easier than whatever generation is speaking. And they’re always going to be the death of whatever country that generation lives in.

Them, and immigrants.

Socrates called the youth lazy because they could use the written word and therefore didn’t have to commit everything to memory. The Olds vs The Youngs really goes back all the way to the beginning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:53:26am

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

The shape of the grill is the giveaway. Very distinctive, and they used the same basic shape all the way till the end.

What kind of car is that?

Packard!
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:55:32am

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

What kind of car is that?

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Here’s another Packard - in this case, the 1956 Packard Predictor concept car.

trombinoscar.com

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:56:17am

re: #173 KGxvi

There’s a hieroglyphic document from Ancient Egypt (and therefore, old as balls) that’s basically a dude lamenting all the young people being soft and GET OFF MY NILOTIC LAWN.

Doubtless if we could translate Linear A we’d find a Minoan doing much the same.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:58:36am

re: #173 KGxvi

Socrates called the youth lazy because they could use the written word and therefore didn’t have to commit everything to memory. The Olds vs The Youngs really goes back all the way to the beginning.

I remember reading somewhere that one of the very oldest translations of Sumerian literature includes a complaint about the decadence and general fecklessness of the young. May not be accurate but it wouldn’t surprise me.

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EmmaAnne  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:58:40am

re: #130 Birth Control Works

As a white woman, I can tell you with some authority that we are born with a Get Out of Jail Free card. Two if we have blonde hair, blue eyes, or big boobs.

I was caught shoplifting as a teenager, and the store manager just scolded me and sent me home. I seriously doubt a 14 year old of color would have gotten the same consideration. Not sure about white boys though.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:58:51am

re: #176 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

There’s a hieroglyphic document from Ancient Egypt (and therefore, old as balls) that’s basically a dude lamenting all the young people being soft and GET OFF MY NILOTIC LAWN.

Doubtless if we could translate Linear A we’d find a Minoan doing much the same.

And you know what? “GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN!!!” is probably exactly what this says.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 9:59:26am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

No, it says, “Hello, Sweetie.”

/Not too obscure, I hope

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:01:10am

re: #180 thedopefishlives

No, it says, “Hello, Sweetie.”

/Not too obscure, I hope

“Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels—bring home for Emma.”

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:02:51am

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Getting stuff done is highly overrated.

But the guy who brought his bike in as soon as I opened is having his 74th birthday today, and he’s treating himself to getting his front brake fixed. I gotta get it done.

I think I’ll fix the rear brake, too. And oil the chain. I always do that. ‘Air and oil are always free!’

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:04:14am

re: #182 wrenchwench

Took my Chevrolet in to get the rest of the warranty job done (that they started a month ago - parts, apparently, were on some kind of record backorder). While there, they also helpfully re-enabled the DRL’s on the little girl, which had been bugging me slightly. My guess is that I missed checking all the fuses the last time I had the fuse box open, but I’ll find out when they send over the paperwork.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:04:20am

re: #180 thedopefishlives

In high Gallifreyan?

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:07:47am

How the US Went Fascist: Mass Media Make Excuses for Trump Voters
Trump’s racism and xenophobia violates America’s core beliefs — yet the media and many Americans are okay with it.

Bill Moyers

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:09:56am

Perhaps the most monstrous thing about the American medical system — and the bar for that title is high indeed — is predatory billing.

A great many medical providers adjust their prices based on how defenseless the patient is, and bleed the weakest ones for every last red cent, often with preposterously inflated charges for things like aspirin and bandages. A 2015 study looked at the worst price gougers in the country and found 50 hospitals that charged uninsured people roughly 10 times the actual cost of care.

Key to this practice is something called “balance billing,” and it’s why the American Medical Association is strongly supporting Donald Trump’s pick of Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees Medicare. Balance billing is forbidden for Medicare enrollees, but Price wants to allow it — thus allowing doctors and hospitals to devour the nest eggs of thousands of American seniors.

So what is balance billing? It’s the practice of billing the patient for the difference between the sticker price and what insurance will pay. So if a hospital visit costs $1,000, but your insurance will only cover $300, some providers will “balance bill” you for $700.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:09:58am

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

“Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels—bring home for Emma.”

Rosebud.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:11:11am

re: #178 EmmaAnne

I was caught shoplifting as a teenager, and the store manager just scolded me and sent me home. I seriously doubt a 14 year old of color would have gotten the same consideration. Not sure about white boys though.

depends —in my area it is not a felony if it is under a certain amount. Some stores just don’t bother prosecuting for minor amounts —it’s not worth it.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:12:48am

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

What kind of car is that?

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Stalin rather liked Packards and had several of them. He also had a thing for Pontiacs and sometimes gave them as gifts to favored comrades. When aircraft designer Alexander Yakovlev was awarded the Stalin Prize in 1940, the package included a nice dacha, a pile of gold rubles, and a Pontiac Silver Chief. Yalovlev put the car to good use the following year when he fled Moscow for the Urals during the Getman advance.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:15:16am

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s what MAKES IT an entitlement. Social Security and Medicare are paid for by the recipients all their working lives, so they’re ENTITLED to it. Same for Veteran’s benefit.

Somewhere along the line, ‘entitlement’ became a bad word.

D’oh. Brainfart on my part.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:15:31am

re: #155 calochortus

Actually, SS is the perfect example of an entitlement. It is something you have a right to-in the case of SS because you paid into it. Of course, most people get more back than they paid in, but it remains an entitlement. It is only the last few decades that there is a negative connotation to entitlement.

Brain fart, thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:20:22am

re: #157 thedopefishlives

There’s a negative connotation because of the “entitlement mentality” that older generations have started attributing to younger generations. All y’all who have been hating on millennials can just get off your own goddamn lawns, now./// But seriously, there are a lot of things that we are legitimately entitled to, but using that word gets you dirty looks and condescending remarks.

I mean the generation bashing does got both ways. And I’ll be fair to the boomers (my parents) generation, I hate it just as much when younger people rag on them too. But I am so fucking sick of older people whining about “participation trophies.” We didn’t beg you for those. You gave them to us. Anyhow, I don’t let it bother me too much because I know we’re going to rag on my niece and the children of her generation when we’re old but man I am sick of bitter old assholes telling me that I can’t appreciate something or someone because I’m a millenial. Yes, I’m a millienial but I feel I’ve learned a lot from my grandparents generation, my parents, and my older cousins who are predominately Gen Xers. Maybe they should try learning something from us instead of bitching about us all the goddamn time. Rant off.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:20:31am

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:21:55am

Look what popped-up on my fb:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:22:49am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

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The America where it was more socially acceptable to be a bigot than person of color or a woman.

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:22:58am

re: #194 Birth Control Works

Look what popped-up on my fb:

I meme’d it last night.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:23:57am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I mean the generation bashing does got both ways. And I’ll be fair to the boomers (my parents) generation, I hate it just as much when younger people rag on them too. But I am so fucking sick of older people whining about “participation trophies.” We didn’t beg you for those. You gave them to us. Anyhow, I don’t let it bother me too much because I know we’re going to rag on my niece and the children of her generation when we’re old but man I am sick of bitter old assholes telling me that I can’t appreciate something or someone because I’m a millenial. Yes, I’m a millienial but I feel I’ve learned a lot from my grandparents generation, my parents, and my older cousins who are predominately Gen Xers. Maybe they should try learning something from us instead of bitching about us all the goddamn time. Rant off.

One thousand times this. And I try not to do too much generational bashing in either direction, because in the words of Isaac Newton, “If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:24:36am

Can’t tell y’all everyime someone makes a comment in a story and some bitter old bastard follows it up “Well you’re a stupid millenial and you don’t understand.” Got news for these old fucks, we’ve been around. No, our generation isn’t perfect and has its own flaws but your generation wasn’t exactly perfect either and your generation dealt with the same condescending crap you like to throw our way.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:26:41am

re: #197 thedopefishlives

One thousand times this. And I try not to do too much generational bashing in either direction, because in the words of Isaac Newton, “If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.”

The man who albeit indirectly shaped my basic political philosophy the most was born in 1913. I have more in common with his view of the world than a CCJ who is around my age. It just gets old. I’m a millenial. I can appreciate the values and lessons the older generations have imparted on us but I feel those generations did make some mistakes along the way too. And you know what, the same thing will happen as we get older. We’ll make mistakes but we too will have wisdom to offer.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:27:05am
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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:27:22am

re: #196 makeitstop

I meme’d it last night.

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and I tweeted it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:27:48am

Sorry guys, the millenial bashing is something I really take personally because I think the younger generation has a lot of positives to offer society as a whole that a bunch of bitter fucks whine about because they don’t like the general tolerance to people of differing cultural groups that millenials have by and large.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:28:44am

It has been an ongoing GOP wet dream to finally pound a stake through the heart of the New Deal, and I believe that is going to be the GOP’s agenda, which generally overlaps with Trump’s agenda of dismantling any form of government that gets in the way of doing business.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:28:49am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Sorry guys, the millenial bashing is something I really take personally because I think the younger generation has a lot of positives to offer society as a whole that a bunch of bitter fucks whine about because they don’t like the general tolerance to people of differing cultural groups that millenials have by and large.

Well, and a lot of the generational bashing is due to people picking out the worst qualities of the next (or previous) generation, stereotyping everyone thereby, and hurling insults. It’s ridiculous and stupid and why can’t we just treat people as individuals and take their contributions on their own standalone merits?

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:29:19am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Sorry guys, the millenial bashing is something I really take personally because I think the younger generation has a lot of positives to offer society as a whole that a bunch of bitter fucks whine about because they don’t like the general tolerance to people of differing cultural groups that millenials have by and large.

Old farts need to give-it-up. It’s not our world anymore. It belongs to those younger than we are.

Shit I can’t even drive hubby’s computerized car.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:29:58am

re: #204 thedopefishlives

Well, and a lot of the generational bashing is due to people picking out the worst qualities of the next (or previous) generation, stereotyping everyone thereby, and hurling insults. It’s ridiculous and stupid and why can’t we just treat people as individuals and take their contributions on their own standalone merits?

Indeed, that’s how I feel about race, religion, sexuality, etc too. Individuals are individuals. My Dad is in Trump’s generation and like Trump a grandchild of a German immigrant but the two couldn’t possibly be more different.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:30:24am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Sorry guys, the millenial bashing is something I really take personally because I think the younger generation has a lot of positives to offer society as a whole that a bunch of bitter fucks whine about because they don’t like the general tolerance to people of differing cultural groups that millenials have by and large.

I have to hear people 50+ who, without any irony, complain constantly that millennials are a bunch of whiners.

One of these days, I am going to ask, “have you heard yourself talk recently? And you complain about millennials whining?”

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:32:10am

re: #180 thedopefishlives

No, it says, “Hello, Sweetie.”

/Not too obscure, I hope

SPOILERS!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:32:17am

re: #205 Birth Control Works

Old farts need to give-it-up. It’s not our world anymore. It belongs to those younger than we are.

Shit I can’t even drive hubby’s computerized car.

Well it’s all our world not just my generation’s. Fact is individuals are individuals and I’d like to go one day without seeing some old fart whine about millenials and how political correctness “ruined” everything and how everything was just peachy in his childhood or early adulthood. May well be that he had a great upbringing but chances are good that while he was doing that, a lot of the bad elements of the past that are either gone or in decline were much more present and that’s not his fault but it’s something he should understand.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:33:56am

re: #207 Timothy Watson

I have to hear people 50+ who, without any irony, complain constantly that millennials are a bunch of whiners.

One of these days, I am going to ask, “have you heard yourself talk recently? And you complain about millennials whining?”

Right or how “entitled” they are. Funny because the older generation said that about them back in the day. I think that’s part of why my Dad and I can get on so well. My Dad to his credit likes to listen to people’s perspectives. May not always agree but I’ve never seen him outright dismiss someone because they were a different age or cultural background than him.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:35:56am

re: #194 Birth Control Works

Look what popped-up on my fb:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:36:32am

I also have to laugh at those who insist political correctness ruined everything. Uh guys when TV was first invented, it couldn’t even be implied that Lucy and Ricky shared the same bed. Psycho showing a flushing toilet was groundbreaking. Lots of shows and comic acts well in to the 70’s were called obscene. Oh, if you’re bitter that you can’t say racial slurs and not have blowback, tough fucking shit. All the people who bitch about modern PC really are oblivious to how much censorship was a big part of the past.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:40:47am

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:41:09am

re: #171 Timothy Watson

Wonkette tears apart one of the “great thinkers” we’re going to have to listen to until at least 2020

“The Democratic Party used to welcome people who didn’t support abortion into the party. We are now so far from that, it’s insane.”

You know, I’m not that involved with the local Democratic committee, but when I was volunteering for Clinton’s campaign, I don’t recall even once being asked what my position on abortion is (which is probably more conservative than most of the people working on that campaign) despite identifying myself as a “recovering Republican”.

My favorite part of the Wonkette post is right after that quoted section because she points out that her own mom is pro-life despite being a longtime Democratic Party grassroots activist.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:44:05am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:45:57am

re: #214 Timothy Watson

You know, I’m not that involved with the local Democratic committee, but when I was volunteering for Clinton’s campaign, I don’t recall even once being asked what my position on abortion is (which is probably more conservative than most of the people working on that campaign) despite identifying myself as a “recovering Republican”.

My favorite part of the Wonkette post is right after that quoted section because she points out that her own mom is pro-life despite being a longtime Democratic Party grassroots activist.

I see people bemoan this. Harry Reid was pro-life for much of his political career including as Majority Leader. When is the last time the GOP had a pro-choice leader or better yet how about how being opposed to abortion in all cases has become a mainstream GOP position? I think Democrats are fine with people personally opposed to abortion as long as they concede that the Roe is A) the law of the land and B) legalized abortion no matter how you may personally feel about it is preferably to it being illegal. As for opposition to LGBT rights, I don’t see any person opposed to those as having a place in the Democratic Party of 2016 and beyond. And once again, how prominent are pro-LGBT supporters in the GOP? Sure, guys like Portman and Cheney dod support same sex marriage but it’s obvious that they only adopted those positions due to their son and daughter respectively, if Portman or Cheney didn’t have a LGBT son or daughter, they’d still be as staunchly opposed as the average Republican is to LGBT rights.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:46:53am

I happen to think pretty highly of the millenniel generation. Among other things, they are noticeably more polite and courteous than their parents were (and are). There are exceptions, of course, especially among the children of backward “conservative” families, but on the average I think this will hold true.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:47:57am
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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:48:33am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:48:50am

The Democrats get a lot of shit for being “too socially left wing” by the types who want us to talk more economics but they ignore that the GOP are the ones that have started the cultural wars in the first place. It was Republican legislatures that began waging war on choice after they regained their legislatures in 2010. It was the Bush administration that pushed for a nationwide ban on same sex marriage. It’s North Carolina Republicans that used the transgendered as a scapegoat. So, yes we’re pro LGBT, we’re pro choice, and you know what, I’m proud of that, it means we’re defending people who are attacked by Republican policies. I’d be fine with us taking a more left wing approach on economics but I’m not naive enough to think that will bring people who hate our party for being socially liberal back into or into it at all.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:49:25am

re: #221 Birth Control Works

huh?
Michigan has banned banning plastic bags

Another example of Republicans who claim to value state and local government waging war on localities doing what they don’t want.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:51:06am
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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:51:33am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:55:33am

re: #221 Birth Control Works

huh?
Michigan has banned banning plastic bags

Gotta protect that plastic bag manufacturing industry!

Wait, what?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 30, 2016 • 10:55:38am

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CuriousLurker  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:09:13am

OT: I’d never heard of this bit of Kentucky before and found it fascinating:

Brutal Saviours of the Black Patch | History Today

History lovers might be interested in taking a look at the other free sample articles available from History Today’s archive:

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:09:29am

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:11:27am

This meme based on Rod Serling/Trump in Oval Office may cause nausea

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:18:44am

This is epic - in a disturbing sort of way.

The Haserot Angel (properly, “The Angel of Death Victorious”) in Lakeview Cemetary, Cleveland, OH.

atlasobscura.com

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Swampwitch  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:19:25am

I was born in the last year designated as “Baby Boomer”, widowed at 50, lost my job in September, and I live in so-called “nice” Iowa. For some odd reason employers aren’t knocking down my door to hire a 56 year old broad without a college degree…go figure. I get EBT (food stamps) right now, and I can tell you that every generation gives me the stink eye when I take out my card at the local store. Young, old, and in-between, the cashier checks out my cart and will snort at something in my cart. Ketchup? I don’t deserve flavor. Wheat bread? Don’t I know white is cheaper? Generic ice tea? What’s wrong with tap water? Hamburger? Hot dogs are a buck. Buns for the hot dogs? See again white bread. If I have anything in my cart that’s not ramen packets…well, they still think I’m getting too many. Who do I think I am eating more than one ramen pack per day? Age is no factor to smug, moral superiority, believe me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:20:41am

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

Of course, they are opposed to anything that might be environmentally friendly or, heaven forbid, affect any business practice.

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:20:49am

I love Logic Ref.

Just go look at them all.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:24:44am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Sorry guys, the millenial bashing is something I really take personally because I think the younger generation has a lot of positives to offer society as a whole that a bunch of bitter fucks whine about because they don’t like the general tolerance to people of differing cultural groups that millenials have by and large.

And I heard many of the Boomer generation make the same types of claims about Boomers bringing a lot of positives through peace, love and understanding…by being less materialistic and loving all people and things.

I’m a Boomer…it was a lot of bullshit. Sure some did good, but all generations have good and bad people.

Best bet…don’t worry about generations and just do all the best you can. Like mentioned above, it’s been going on since the dawning of man. And if you start classifying generations all you are doing is falling into the same thinking.

And you too will find out a lot of the people of your generation were going to do one thing and then did something else.

I call it all part of the human condition…and it is there for everyone and not going to change. (Shrug)

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:28:08am

re: #228 I Would Prefer Not To

[Embedded content]

11 likes and 4 retweets in a few minutes.

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:30:00am

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:30:51am

I used to argue respectfully with oldtards. Like the one who pushed a broom at Ford and retired in his early fifties. He used all that valuable free time to develop his hatred of all things liberal. Until he had to be reminded that his stupid ass is worth less than a fucking burger flipper, but he had his union that took care of him that of course he now hates. I don’t talk nice to these fucks any more. I go straight for the hypocrisy now and then when the whining elevates I tell them to shut the fuck up. Usually I end with “those government checks you cash, they come on time right?”

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:31:32am

re: #238 retired cynic

So sorry to hear that, {{{RC}}}.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:31:57am

re: #238 retired cynic

YsykbTCO+O3B8ztJYwP1qmd+dgLg+5wfNwnqLKpXMOA=

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:33:05am

re: #238 retired cynic

{{rc}}

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:33:58am

re: #238 retired cynic

{{{rc}}}

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:34:06am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

Oh no. I’m so sorry. Didn’t see that yesterday since I was at working. My condolences.

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Swampwitch  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:34:13am

re: #238 retired cynic

I am so sorry. Please, try and remember in the days ahead when you’re worrying about and seeing to details and to the comfort of those surrounding you now…to take some time and do something for yourself. Even the smallest of gesture that’s for you and you alone will help, if only a little.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:34:19am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

Awww, so very sorry Cynic. Damn.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:35:18am

re: #233 Swampwitch

Don’t feel bad. My 56 yo wife has a “good” college degree and can’t find a decent fucking job. She’s a goddamned caregiver for less than 10 an hour. It makes me sick that the people she cares for get all the benefits of her company all while paying her a slave wage as if she never contributed anything in her life. Fucking sickening.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:35:49am

re: #238 retired cynic

OMG I’m so sorry.

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:36:54am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:37:10am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

{rc}

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Swampwitch  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:38:36am

re: #247 Amory Blaine

Boy, do I understand. People don’t see the 43 years of hard work I did before I had to break down and apply for EBT. They just see the card, not the person.

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:38:42am

Back in a couple hours. Until then:

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Birth Control Works  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:38:43am

bbl

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darthstar  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:39:38am

re: #238 retired cynic

Peace.

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ckkatz  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:40:42am

re: #238 retired cynic
Please accept my Condolences and wishes for healing. :( Losing loved ones sucks. :(

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nines09  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:40:59am

re: #238 retired cynic

9767CsVvCp9otmWGrm9n6ShwF0/A93ZnyOSCNGYpxD05yX5RzDt/Xr3TE6p2VqSPAAgY7J67GoK3SgBTgXZ3jwaZydC7VIOz+DU0X6pjJ01Pua8kJyz1xSfYElyIUa3LscO8mvZYSrAk6cAH4/ujlQxZOOhF9Hbzd8eTweTsCGHrUffGR5vyyOQkJMLQeA4v

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Joe Bacon  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:42:35am

re: #238 retired cynic

I’m so sorry! Sending a hug!

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:43:30am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

{{{{RC}}}}

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CuriousLurker  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:44:16am

re: #238 retired cynic

I’m sorry. Sending sympathy & positive thoughts your way. {{{RC}}}

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:46:05am

re: #237 wrenchwench

11 likes and 4 retweets in a few minutes.

I just tweeted for the hell of it

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A Cranky One  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:46:48am

re: #238 retired cynic

fYb18SMpTbS7Rseg8V12xVZ8r50l0fv7XlMFOaTP5KGC4Ew8jxNt8/PbhbgO5iIpXZQ1O9g6ixvpc0DVEA9YIob7+w6dkJmjSRyYHmmgZHR274by7qQr4ViNtVs3NeFWGqiSxX+Z2kDXtk9OKb5LsBu9QBCMVbMkf0EaYRtrpwEgziAlcGJeMBWndZCcmtkPcextDZfBriTFVq1qCXyPsHrQeIvUAXx1JOtFj+wYznC+FXOzNpZ6MT0nbPu1L0Ib

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:47:31am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:48:15am

re: #238 retired cynic

So sorry to hear that. My sincere condolences.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:48:31am

re: #262 Charles Johnson

Who hacked our election to get him elected, don’t forget. Obviously he’s going to praise the guy that is responsible for ensuring his own rise to power.

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nines09  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:49:49am

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:50:22am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

Very sorry to hear that. My sympathy and condolences.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:50:42am

re: #238 retired cynic

Baruch dayan emet. My deepest condolences to you and your family in this difficult time.

And I consider it a privilege that you thought of us here at LGF as close enough to share in your sorrow and for us to give you comfort (if only through our online comments).

Again, my condolences.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:51:35am
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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:52:55am

re: #264 thedopefishlives

Who hacked our election to get him elected, don’t forget. Obviously he’s going to praise the guy that is responsible for ensuring his own rise to power.

Ummmm…Kellyanne Conway is going to be so upset with you making this all about Russians getting Trump elected, like it was some kind of stolen thing or something.

See this post and video above from earlier.

re: #74 (alpuz)

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calochortus  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:53:29am

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

I am so very sorry. Inadequate, but adequacy is not possible. All my best to you-and your dear husband’s other family and friends.

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BeachDem  Dec 30, 2016 • 11:55:50am

re: #238 retired cynic

Heartfelt condolences and hopes for peace and comfort.

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:00:34pm

re: #238 retired cynic

I’m so sorry for you that happened. My condolences.

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calochortus  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:00:37pm

re: #251 Swampwitch

Boy, do I understand. People don’t see the 43 years of hard work I did before I had to break down and apply for EBT. They just see the card, not the person.

If it helps, I don’t look down on anyone who needs assistance.
I have been known to roll my eyes at the occasional Young Person trying to buy beer with their food stamps, but I forgive the young a little folly. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to be in a position where they need the help. Honestly, if you qualify for EBT and can save enough for a splurge now and then, I salute you.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:01:49pm

re: #238 retired cynic

This has been a terrible year. My sympathies to you and your family.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:02:15pm

re: #238 retired cynic

{{gentle hugs}}

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austin_blue  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:05:11pm

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

{{{rc}}}

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:05:30pm

From a friend on Facebook - too good not to share:

A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him:

“Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.”

The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, “You’re in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.

She rolled her eyes and said, “You must be an Obama Democrat.

“I am,” replied the man. “How did you know?”

“Well,” answered the balloonist, “everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I’m still lost. Frankly, you’ve not been much help to me.”

The man smiled and responded, “You must be a Republican.”

“I am,” replied the balloonist. “How did you know?”

“Well,” said the man, “you don’t know where you are — or where you are going. You’ve risen to where you are , due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem. You’re in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it’s my fault.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:08:18pm
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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:16:49pm

Thank you all. This community is very important to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:18:06pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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nines09  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:19:29pm

re: #268 Charles Johnson

Putin probably sent him some letters with XXX’s and 000’s on them. Sealed with a kiss.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:21:46pm

re: #281 nines09

Putin probably sent him some letters with XX’s and 000’s on them. Sealed with a kiss.

This image is gonna be getting a lot of use for the foreseeable future.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:23:31pm

Just received a contact email from an admirer.

hope you burn in hell u cocksucker

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:24:29pm
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scottslemmons  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:24:47pm

re: #238 retired cynic

Many, many, many condolences. :(

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:27:03pm

re: #283 Charles Johnson

Just received a contact email from an admirer.

The best thing about those sentiments is he’ll be right there with you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:28:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:28:50pm
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nines09  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:31:16pm

Don’t call anyone who voted for Trump a “Trump voter”. They take that as an insult.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:34:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:35:08pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

my shocked face…

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Stanley Sea  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:35:33pm

wtf is going on?

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:36:21pm

re: #292 Stanley Sea

wtf is going on?

Interdimensional tear causing two realities to merge? ///

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Timothy Watson  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:37:30pm

re: #293 Teukka

Interdimensional tear causing two realities to merge? ///

The Observers warned us about that.

(Apologies for the obscure Fringe reference.)

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Mattand  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:38:09pm

re: #238 retired cynic

2016 continues its wrath. My husband passed away at noon today. Thank you all for your support yesterday, as that story came to an end.

Oh, God. I’m did sorry to hear that. I haven’t been posting as much lately, and no idea he was ill.

Please accept my condolences and let me kmow if you need anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:38:23pm
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:41:01pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:43:29pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:44:29pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:47:37pm

re: #289 nines09

Don’t call anyone who voted for Trump a “Trump voter”. They take that as an insult.

Would they accept “dumbass”?

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Swampwitch  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:47:38pm

Notice the Orange Dullard only poses with black people who are dumb as a post, convicted felons, or reality show contestants…

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:47:46pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tracked the image down to a 2006 meeting between the two and a guy named Nikolai ‘Russian Giant’ Valuev.

gettyimages.co.uk

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Interesting Times  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:47:49pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:54:10pm

re: #238 retired cynic

{{{{{{{{{{RC}}}}}}}}}}

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:56:59pm

re: #238 retired cynic

{{retired cynic}}

I wish there were words that could heal this kind of pain, but know that the thoughts here at casa klys are with you and yours.

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BeachDem  Dec 30, 2016 • 12:57:24pm

re: #273 calochortus

If it helps, I don’t look down on anyone who needs assistance.
I have been known to roll my eyes at the occasional Young Person trying to buy beer with their food stamps, but I forgive the young a little folly. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to be in a position where they need the help. Honestly, if you qualify for EBT and can save enough for a splurge now and then, I salute you.

I’m also amazed (nauseated) that people can’t mind their own damn business when they’re in line at the grocery store. (Not you—youth buying beer is kinda funny.) I have enough trouble putting my groceries on the belt, getting my canvas bags ready, finding my discount card for scanning, getting out my credit card etc. I don’t have time (or the inclination) to pay any attention to somebody else’s groceries, let alone what card they’re swiping.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:00:28pm
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CuriousLurker  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:02:32pm

re: #307 CuriousLurker

Oh, new thread as soon as I post. Imagine my surprise. //

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:02:53pm

re: #303 Interesting Times

Someone tweet Paul Begala that ” Жаль” would be better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:16:03pm

re: #307 CuriousLurker

“Joined December 2016”

so freaking obviously a troll.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2016 • 1:22:16pm

re: #307 CuriousLurker

oh, this person had a previous twitter account (@erikalied) using the same profile pic. That account has been suspended.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 30, 2016 • 2:16:10pm

re: #238 retired cynic

So sorry.

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CleverToad  Dec 30, 2016 • 4:35:12pm

re: #238 retired cynic

{{Sympathy, and a wish for strength and friends to help you through the coming year}}

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ipsos  Dec 30, 2016 • 8:37:25pm

re: #279 retired cynic

{{{{{{RC}}}}}}


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Blondie - Doom or Destiny (Official Video)Blondie performing "Doom or Destiny" from the new album "Pollinator".Out Now: blondie.lnk.to Follow Blondiefacebook.cominstagram.com@BlondieOfficial vevo.ly
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Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa - Black Coffee (Official Music Video) Official video for Black Coffee from the new Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa album Black Coffee. Pre-order: smarturl.it BLACK COFFEE is available to pre-order on CD and vinyl. The limited CD box includes 2 coasters, a postcard and an ...
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Sparks - ‘This Town Ain’t Big Enough for Both of Us’ (Live at WFUV) wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Sparks (allsparks.com) performs "This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both of Us" live in Studio A. Recorded 10.12.17. Host: Darren DeVivoAudio: Jim O'HaraCameras: Dan Tuozzoli, Kristal Ho, Monica Fafaul, Alexandra Brennan and Liz CarrEditor: ...
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