Courtney Barnett + Kurt Vile: “Continental Breakfast”

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There’s something so cool about the total lack of pretension or artifice in this song and video. It’s not possible to be in a bad mood after watching.

‘Continental Breakfast’ is taken from Courtney Barnett & Kurt Vile’s upcoming album ‘Lotta Sea Lice’ || Pre-order: lnk.to

Out on 13th October 2017 on Milk! Records, Marathon Artists and Matador Records
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Directed and produced by Danny Cohen

Director of Photography: Sherwin Akbarzadeh (Melbourne) & Doug Durant (Philadelphia)
Camera Assistant: Nick Forster (Melbourne) & Andy Hensler (Philadelphia)
Edit: Ben Hall at Edit Hall
Colour: Daniel Stonehouse at Crayon
Shot on Kodak 16mm

Special thanks: Nellie Jackson, Rennie Jaffe, Nick O’Byrne, Hugh Turral, Jack, Ian, & Jason at Metropolis Post, Jeff Melanson, Jon Beattie, Mike at Kodak USA, AMF Highpoint, Evan Prosofsky, Dave Ellis and Derry Sheehan

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Lyrics
You won’t believe what I coulda told ya
But I don’t believe I’ve the balls to let you know
I can say that ‘cause I’m a man
But I feel like a little boy… today

I cherish my intercontinental friendships
We talk it over continental breakfast
In a hotel in east bumble-wherever
Somewhere on the sphere, around here

I cherish my intercontinental friendships
Not much very big on enemies
So I kick a can way up into the sun, man
But it falls down into a ravine
I don’t mean to even think about it that way, but I do

Watchin’ the waves come in at night
From my back porch stoop, porch swing swingin’on its own
See it’s just an inhabitant of some holy ghost

I walk like a bruised ego along shorefront property un-owned to me
But I’m feelin’ inferior on the interior don’t ya see Guarded and sentimental (and after all, its just a rental)
(Like better luck performin’ telekinesis on a priestess)
You won’t believe what I mighta, coulda told ya
But I wouldn’t wanna leave ya trippin’ out over it
OK, more-so me, but…
(or just me)

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448 comments

1
Mattand  Oct 10, 2017 • 8:59:25pm

Thanks to Charles for fixing what ailed my account!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:00:48pm

re: #1 Mattand

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Thanks to Charles for fixing what ailed my account!

Welcome back dude.

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Mattand  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:04:57pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Welcome back dude.

Appreciate it. Now here’s a list of the 274,394 things that are pissing me off.

Get comfy, kids. This’ll be a long one.

#274,394: The larch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:08:27pm

re: #3 Mattand

Appreciate it. Now here’s a list of the 274,394 things that are pissing me off.

Get comfy, kids. This’ll be a long one.

#274,394: The larch.

Now I thought it would have been Szuchan sauce. //

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:09:18pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Now I thought it would have been Szuchan sauce. //

It’s not the sauce, it’s the idiots.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:13:15pm
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Mattand  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:13:35pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

re: #5 Belafon

LOL, I’ve seen two episodes of Rick and Morty and have been meaning to catch up on the series. Having seen what the fanbase is morphing into, I might hold off a bit.

Threatening minimum wage workers over sauce, because that sauce proves what a superfan you are. Welcome to 2017.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:14:35pm

re: #5 Belafon

It’s not the sauce, it’s the idiots.

I know. I was being silly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:15:33pm

re: #6 Kragar

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No one denied Nixon was intelligent either. And I don’t think Nixon would have challenged William Rogers to an IQ test.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:15:36pm

Gah! I’m on Facebook for less than an hour and already I find people saying the Las Vegas shooting was staged. “Things don’t add up.”

I think I’ll just mute my ex-sister-in-law.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:16:16pm

re: #7 Mattand

LOL, I’ve seen two episodes of Rick and Morty and have been meaning to catch up on the series. Having seen what the fanbase is morphing into, I might hold off a bit.

Threatening minimum wage workers over sauce, because that sauce proves what a superfan you are. Welcome to 2017.

I feel bad for the employees. Always sucks when that happens no matter what the situation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:16:49pm

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Gah! I’m on Facebook for less than an hour and already I find people saying the Las Vegas shooting was staged. “Things don’t add up.”

I think I’ll just mute my ex-sister-in-law.

That’s the conspiracy industry for you. Everything is staged! Alex Jones has created so many morons with his bullshit.

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:18:35pm

I have a friend in Chicago that gleefully chimes in and makes fun of shitheads on Facebook. Well, I’m scrolling through and my buddy commented on some dude’s desire to shoot as many Antifa as he could. This is when I found out that Facebook has no reporting mechanism for fucked up comments like Twitter has for fucked up tweets.

I would totally shut down my Facebook if it weren’t for me being an established social media presence there, with family and friend connections all over the world.

Facebook is a fucking cesspool.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:18:58pm

re: #7 Mattand

LOL, I’ve seen two episodes of Rick and Morty and have been meaning to catch up on the series. Having seen what the fanbase is morphing into, I might hold off a bit.

Threatening minimum wage workers over sauce, because that sauce proves what a superfan you are. Welcome to 2017.

I don’t blame Jesus for his followers (I have my own reasons for not believing in God), nor do I blame sports teams for theirs.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:19:18pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

I have a friend in Chicago that gleefully chimes in and makes fun of shitheads on Facebook. Well, I’m scrolling through and my buddy commented on some dude’s desire to shoot as many Antifa as he could. This is when I found out that Facebook has no reporting mechanism for fucked up comments like Twitter has for fucked up tweets.

I would totally shut down my Facebook if it weren’t for me being an established social media presence there, with family and friend connections all over the world.

Facebook is a fucking cesspool.

I hear ya.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:20:31pm

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Always remember, some notable fraction of your fellow humans are desperately trying to escape reality at any given time of the day.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:20:32pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

That’s the conspiracy industry for you. Everything is staged! Alex Jones has created so many morons with his bullshit.

The ex-SIL is a born-again Xian, retired, and prone to telling everyone on her timeline exactly what she is doing every hour or so. She’s also socially awkward.Her kids turned out OK, though.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:20:59pm

See, I’m just stuck wondering if McD Szechuan sauce in any way resembles anything in Szechuan cooking, because the latter is freaking awesome.

My guess…no.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:21:25pm

re: #17 wheat-dogg

The ex-SIL is a born-again Xian, retired, and prone to telling everyone on her timeline exactly what she is doing every hour or so. She’s also socially awkward.Her kids turned out OK, though.

Ah one of those Facebook types. Yes, I’ve seen that with older relatives.

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:21:35pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Even Twitter, with their famous inaction to online abuse, at least gives you the option to report offensive and dangerous tweets. Facebook just allows you to “hide” comments or block users. There’s no policing of posts or comments. It can get pretty fucking disgusting with a quickness.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:21:40pm

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Gah! I’m on Facebook for less than an hour and already I find people saying the Las Vegas shooting was staged. “Things don’t add up.”

I think I’ll just mute my ex-sister-in-law.

Yeah, like why are there idiots who think it could be fake? Do they have to think to breath? Is that why they can’t put two thoughts together?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:22:23pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

Even Twitter, with their famous inaction to online abuse, at least gives you the option to report offensive and dangerous tweets. Facebook just allows you to “hide” comments or block users. There’s no policing of posts or comments. It can get pretty fucking disgusting with a quickness.

Oh believe me I know. I had to report some of my own cousin’s comments in the years before he passed away. I loved him to death but he posted some really fucked up shit.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:23:00pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Facebook The human race is a fucking cesspool.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:23:17pm
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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:23:34pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

I have a friend in Chicago that gleefully chimes in and makes fun of shitheads on Facebook. Well, I’m scrolling through and my buddy commented on some dude’s desire to shoot as many Antifa as he could. This is when I found out that Facebook has no reporting mechanism for fucked up comments like Twitter has for fucked up tweets.

I would totally shut down my Facebook if it weren’t for me being an established social media presence there, with family and friend connections all over the world.

Facebook is a fucking cesspool.

Facebook could care less about offensive posts. Look how many times Rage Furby has been suspended and re-enabled.

I use FB because it’s the best way to keep up with family and friends. But my visits to it are usually spoiled by running across some painfully stupid shit that makes me want to throw something at the screen.

I can’t, because it’s my son’s screen and he’d be mad if I broke it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:24:05pm

re: #18 The Ghost of a Flea

See, I’m just stuck wondering if McD Szechuan sauce in any way resembles anything in Szechuan cooking, because the latter is freaking awesome.

My guess…no.

You know, that’s something a lot of Americans never really think about. We just call it Chinese but Chinese food really has a lot of variety. I wouldn’t mind trying this sauce but I’m under no illusion that it’s got any real relationship to Szechuan cuisine.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:26:39pm

Oh the thread

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:26:47pm

re: #16 freetoken

Always remember, some notable fraction of your fellow humans are desperately trying to escape reality at any given time of the day.

I limit my escapism to reading fiction and watching TV shows with superheroes in them. Some people can’t seem to distinguish fact from fiction.

I mean, 58 people died in LV. Their photos were on CNN and in the papers. They are dead. Suggesting it’s all faked just make my blood boil.

And coming from a born-again makes me even madder.

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:27:12pm

re: #25 wheat-dogg

Facebook could care less about offensive posts. Look how many times Rage Furby has been suspended and re-enabled.

I use FB because it’s the best way to keep up with family and friends. But my visits to it are usually spoiled by running across some painfully stupid shit that makes me want to throw something at the screen.

I can’t, because it’s my son’s screen and he’d be mad if I broke it.

Even with a good deal of curation and blocking/muting, I still see brick-at-the-screen content on a near daily basis. Lately, since Fuckface Von Clownstick took over, I’ve had to block and mute folks I’ve known for many years because in adulthood they turned out to be total fuckin’ assholes.

goddamnedfrank nailed it in a tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:29:48pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Even with a good deal of curation and blocking/muting, I still see brick-at-the-screen content on a near daily basis. Lately, since Fuckface Von Clownstick took over, I’ve had to block and mute folks I’ve known for many years because in adulthood they turned out to be total fuckin’ assholes.

goddamnedfrank nailed it in a tweet.

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You do see the good sides of people though emerge though too. I hate that feeling though. I didn’t block my one friend but I definitely had to stop following him for a while because all he posted and liked were stupid right wing memes. I have to admit. I’m guilty of turning my FB to a political soap box as of late but you know what, I’m frustrated with Fuckface and his enablers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:30:42pm

re: #28 wheat-dogg

I limit my escapism to reading fiction and watching TV shows with superheroes in them. Some people can’t seem to distinguish fact from fiction.

I mean, 58 people died in LV. Their photos were on CNN and in the papers. They are dead. Suggesting it’s all faked just make my blood boil.

And coming from a born-again makes me even madder.

I really thought the Sandy Hook families should have sued Alex Jones for the shit he did. That guy’s the worst. I despise him even more than Rush.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:30:55pm

Local creationist:

‘I Take the Bible at Its Word,’ Says La Mesa’s New School Board Member

[…]

But in reply to a question on the age of the earth — 4.5 billion years or 6,000 years? — she said “so many theories [exist] on how old the earth is and how it came about.”

She got the job on the board when another board member resigned. I guess the next election the seat will have to be competed (I hope.)

Anyway, she tries the soft-sell:

“Say if a parent were asking me this question,” she said. “I would tell them what I believe is that their children are being taught what’s given to us about the earth and how old it is through the Common Core. So my own personal beliefs don’t really play into this right now.”

What if a parent asked for “intelligent design” to be taught in one of the East County district’s 17 elementary schools, traditional middle school or three specialized Grade 4-8 academies?

[…]

“All of what our teachers teach in our schools is given directly from the state government,” she said. […]

[…]

Basically she knows she has no other choice than to say “the state makes us do this”. La Mesa is not an especially wingnutty part of the county. If she was running out in Spring Valley then maybe she could be more overt.

But this again shows that it is really up to the community to be what it needs to be. If the State was not so clear about what science standards have to be, then we would be facing creationists at every turn. So all that work to make sure California politics is influenced by progressive, and secular, ideas does really pay off.

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Mattand  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:31:10pm

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Gah! I’m on Facebook for less than an hour and already I find people saying the Las Vegas shooting was staged. “Things don’t add up.”

I think I’ll just mute my ex-sister-in-law.

Yeah, I don’t even think it was 12 hours before that shit started.

I had to have my car towed Thursday. The tow truck driver thinks that the shooter was a patsy (swear to God, he used that exact word); but wants a strict national background check, so he can have the exact same weapons the military has, so he can fight back if the gubmint turns on us.

Unanswered questions:

1) The shooter was a patsy of who, exactly? Strict gun control is the last thing on the current government’s mind. It makes no sense that he was set up by them.

If he was set up by anti-gun people, what would be the end game there? 20 dead 1st graders didn’t convince the GOP to enact tougher gun laws. 59 adult CW fans certainly won’t.

2) He honestly thinks he and his buddies are going to turn back our highly trained military (whose members he probably thanks for their service every time he sees them) because Red Dawn is a documentary.

3) You want the government to make weapons as difficult as possible to get, yet are constantly worried they’re going to on you?

I could go on, but you get the idea.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:31:43pm

BTW this whole “take the Bible at it’s word” thing is such a delusion.

No one does that. Not even close.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:31:52pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Szechuan (nowadays more often rendered Sichuan) is the first Chinese cuisine I attempted. I’ve got only a few recipes really down pat…and none of the elegant ones, but man do I love it. But I can’t do the chile heat and Sichuan peppercorn sting the way the locals do. I know it’s a total waste of brain power, but I find myself considering the whole “Szechuan sauce” thing just because it’s like a culinary brain teaser…what would I put together and slap that label on?

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Mattand  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:32:00pm

re: #14 Belafon

I don’t blame Jesus for his followers (I have my own reasons for not believing in God), nor do I blame sports teams for theirs.

Yeah, I know. It’s just really distressing to see “adults” acting like that, particularly given the real problems in the country.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:33:16pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

Szechuan (nowadays more often rendered Sichuan) is the first Chinese cuisine I attempted. I’ve got only a few recipes really down pat…and none of the elegant ones, but man do I love it. But I can’t do the chile heat and Sichuan peppercorn sting the way the locals do. I know it’s a total waste of brain power, but I find myself considering the whole “Szechuan sauce” thing just because it’s like a culinary brain teaser…what would I put together and slap that label on?

Yeah it’s more spicy from what I understand. I should seek out a Szechuan place next time I find myself in a place with a heavy Chinese population.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:33:42pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

You know, that’s something a lot of Americans never really think about. We just call it Chinese but Chinese food really has a lot of variety. I wouldn’t mind trying this sauce but I’m under no illusion that it’s got any real relationship to Szechuan cuisine.

Happy, when I was a kid I thought eating Chinese food was when Mom would open a can of La Choy Chow Mein—the old double cans with the meat & gravy in the smaller upper can and the vegetables in the lower larger can. Mom would then open a can of La Choy Chow Mein noodles and we’d dig in. Then Mom and Dad heard of the Bellevue Tea Garden. We went there and I had my first experience with broccoli beef and shrimp in lobster sauce. HEAVEN. I never wanted to go back to La Choy after that…

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:33:57pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

Szechuan (nowadays more often rendered Sichuan) is the first Chinese cuisine I attempted. I’ve got only a few recipes really down pat…and none of the elegant ones, but man do I love it. But I can’t do the chile heat and Sichuan peppercorn sting the way the locals do. I know it’s a total waste of brain power, but I find myself considering the whole “Szechuan sauce” thing just because it’s like a culinary brain teaser…what would I put together and slap that label on?

My guess: HFCS, pepper oil, salt, FD&C #5

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:34:59pm

re: #34 freetoken

BTW this whole “take the Bible at it’s word” thing is such a delusion.

No one does that. Not even close.

The thing that pisses me off about biblical literalists is they’re as pick and choose as the liberal Christians they hate for doing that. Some of the biggest born again dicks I’ve seen are multiple times divorced people and I just want to scream at them who the hell are they to judge a gay couple that’s been together decades but is only now able to gain official recongition. It’s especially galling coming from someone like Gingrich or Trump, serial adulterers.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:35:00pm

More about making sure the voice of modernity is heard over the urges of atavism:

National lab scientists assail state education proposal

Dozens of scientists and engineers at a national nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico are objecting to public school science standards proposed by the state that they say would undermine the study of climate change, evolution and earth sciences.

[…]

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:35:16pm

re: #39 wheat-dogg

Yup.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:36:03pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, when I was a kid I thought eating Chinese food was when Mom would open a can of La Choy Chow Mein—the old double cans with the meat & gravy in the smaller upper can and the vegetables in the lower larger can. Mom would then open a can of La Choy Chow Mein noodles and we’d dig in. Then Mom and Dad heard of the Bellevue Tea Garden. We went there and I had my first experience with broccoli beef and shrimp in lobster sauce. HEAVEN. I never wanted to go back to La Choy after that…

Ain’t nothing like the real thing huh.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:37:29pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s more spicy from what I understand. I should seek out a Szechuan place next time I find myself in a place with a heavy Chinese population.

Sichuan is to die for. They tone the spice down for Americans, and usually the American menus have warnings for the really spicy ones, like good Mexican places do. Unlike Hunan cuisine, which uses hot peppers to the point you can’t taste anything but, Sichuan has a more balanced taste, IMO.

Sichuan pepper are little seeds that aren’t capsaicin peppers at all. If you don’t like the numbing effect, you can pick them out. Chopsticks are handy for that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:38:07pm

Now as a tattooed lizard, I also love the holier than thou who get Leviticus tattooed considering Leviticus isn’t too keen on tats either.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:38:54pm

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Sichuan is to die for. They tone the spice down for Americans, and usually the American menus have warnings for the really spicy ones, like good Mexican places do. Unlike Hunan cuisine, which uses hot peppers to the point you can’t taste anything but, Sichuan has a more balanced taste, IMO.

Sichuan pepper are little seeds that aren’t capsaicin peppers at all. If you don’t like the numbing effect, you can pick them out. Chopsticks are handy for that.

I’ll definitely look. Sounds good.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:39:11pm

And since we’re talking about Chinese food, FedEx will deliver my shiny new Chinese work visa tomorrow, and I will fly back to China — finally! — on Thursday.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:39:13pm

re: #33 Mattand

We are fucked. Because our neighbors are flat out idjits.

Screaming AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:40:14pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I’m very open and use my real name on Twitter (though my DMs are and will always be closed). I use an alias - “Wen Hui Wang” - on Facebook, to keep the horrible people I grew up with away. Most of the time they’re too dim to even put an effort in to finding me on FB, it’s not exactly hard to find out it’s me, what with pictures and the facebook•com/teleskiguy URL. But if some redneck bully I knew goes to the trouble to see through my ruse and ask to be friends, I’ll accept. I’ve had to un-friend almost a half dozen of those particular folks just in the last couple of months.

Oh, and politics and government are strictly off limits on my FB.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:40:37pm

re: #47 wheat-dogg

And since we’re talking about Chinese food, FedEx will deliver my shiny new Chinese work visa tomorrow, and I will fly back to China — finally! — on Thursday.

Woot. Sucks though that you’ve got a long flight ahead tho. Any stops?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:41:04pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Happy, this ain’t Chinese Food no matter how it’s packaged!

This ain’t the real thing
But this does come close…
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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:41:09pm

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Sichuan pepper are little seeds that aren’t capsaicin peppers at all.

From the same family as citrus plants:
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:42:19pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, this ain’t Chinese Food no matter how it’s packaged!

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No, it certainly isn’t haha. It’s like the Trump tower pizza and taco bowl.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:43:49pm

Twitter gave this random asshole with 11 followers 280 characters.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:44:37pm

God there was this one Chinese dessert my Taiwanese coworker when I worked at a tech firm brought in. It had red bean in it tho. So good. He was a great coworker. We’d have lunch and he’d teach me about China. Even later met his family when he put together a pick up game between some of us and his friends.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:45:06pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Sichuan cuisine uses tons of chiles in multiple forms—fermented paste, dried, fresh, seasoned oil, salted—but what really sets it apart is huaijiao—lit. flower pepper, otherwise Sichuan pepper.

The latter has a chemical that activates several different receptor types in your tactile sense, producing an sensory effect somewhere between a tiny shock and a sting.

That’s not all they have going on, but it’s definitely the most memorable.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:45:35pm

Plant evolution is very difficult to understand, because soft tissues do not readily create fossils, and because plants are freer to do weird things with DNA than animals do.

The Rutaceae, like several plant families, are found globally. Which means they really get their seeds around, or their common origin is long ago.

Long time ago, when I was in school, it was not clear when flowering plants first appeared. Then the idea was that Magnolias are the oldest extant form of flowers. Now I think the idea is that flowering plants are much older.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:46:58pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Woot. Sucks though that you’ve got a long flight ahead tho. Any stops?

Two hours in LAX and an overnight stay in Nanjing. I should be halfway conscious by the time I arrive in Zhengzhou Saturday.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:46:59pm

re: #56 The Ghost of a Flea

Sichuan cuisine uses tons of chiles in multiple forms—fermented paste, dried, fresh, seasoned oil, salted—but what really sets it apart is huaijiao—lit. flower pepper, otherwise Sichuan pepper.

The latter has a chemical that activates several different receptor types in your tactile sense, producing an sensory effect somewhere between a tiny shock and a sting.

That’s not all they have going on, but it’s definitely the most memorable.

What kind of protein do they use? I’ve forgotten where in China the location of Sichuan province.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:47:27pm

re: #47 wheat-dogg

And since we’re talking about Chinese food, FedEx will deliver my shiny new Chinese work visa tomorrow, and I will fly back to China — finally! — on Thursday.

So glad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:47:44pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg

Two hours in LAX and an overnight stay in Nanjing. I should be halfway conscious by the time I arrive in Zhengzhou Saturday.

LA ain’t bad and at least you get to sleep in Nanjing.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:48:35pm

re: #56 The Ghost of a Flea

Sichuan cuisine uses tons of chiles in multiple forms—fermented paste, dried, fresh, seasoned oil, salted—but what really sets it apart is huaijiao—lit. flower pepper, otherwise Sichuan pepper.

The latter has a chemical that activates several different receptor types in your tactile sense, producing an sensory effect somewhere between a tiny shock and a sting.

That’s not all they have going on, but it’s definitely the most memorable.

Some people hate the sensation. I love it. Sichuan hotpot uses it a lot.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:50:27pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

What kind of protein do they use? I’ve forgotten where in China the location of Sichuan province.

Central. Most provinces in China rely on pork, chicken, duck, fish and tofu for protein. Muslims obviously replace the pork with lamb and to a lesser extent beef.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:50:45pm

China is a really fascinating place. Chinese history was one of the most challenging classes I took as an undergraduate but well worth it. I had a great professor. Tough grader but I loved how he taught the class because we learned about how the history impacted average Chinese citizens as well as famous names like Mao, Sun Yat-sen, & Chiang Kai Shek.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:52:07pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

So glad.

Me too. While I’ve enjoyed being in the States, a three-month holiday was a bit more than I bargained for. I’ve been ready to get to the new job since late August.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:52:21pm

re: #63 wheat-dogg

Central. Most provinces in China rely on pork, chicken, duck, fish and tofu for protein. Muslims obviously replace the pork with lamb and to a lesser extent beef.

Makes sense. I forget but where’s the province you teach at. I always had such a difficult time remembering where all the provinces were. There are so many.

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majii  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:53:28pm

re: #41 freetoken

“Dozens of scientists and engineers at a national nuclear weapons laboratory in New Mexico are objecting to public school science standards proposed by the state that they say would undermine the study of climate change, evolution and earth sciences.”

I think it’s a d*mn shame that some of the same people who want science turned into creationism also think that their kids will be well-equipped to have successful careers in science-related fields. Kids that learn creationism as science can probably get into college after high school, but they’ll find themselves having to play catch-up a few seconds after they enter their college biology and/or physics classroom and look at the syllabuses for those classes.

I’ve actually known kids who transferred from private Christian schools to the public high school where I taught, and many of them struggled to learn the 10th Grade physical science they should have learned in 8th Grade. These would often be kids who were accustomed to making a grade of 90 and above in science classes. I have nothing against parochial schools, but I think those that substitute creationism for science do a disservice to their students. My beautician’s grandson attends a Christian elementary school. I’ve seen some of his assignments, and almost all of them have some reference to God or the Bible. He attended a Christian school until the Third Grade. When that school closed, he attended a public elementary school for one year and struggled academically. The following year, he was back in a Christian school and according to her, he’s “excelling.” SMDH.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:53:38pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg

Two hours in LAX and an overnight stay in Nanjing. I should be halfway conscious by the time I arrive in Zhengzhou Saturday.

Piece of cake to return to the lotus land

(is that in anyway correct? You get my gist)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:54:11pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

It’s land-locked, a basin and a plateau with a river between, east of the Tibet Autonomous Region and North of Yunnan.

The only thing I don’t see in recipes is certain kinds of ocean fish and molluscs. Otherwise they’ve got access to pretty much all the meat options, plus tofu.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:54:12pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

China is a really fascinating place. Chinese history was one of the most challenging classes I took as an undergraduate but well worth it. I had a great professor. Tough grader but I loved how he taught the class because we learned about how the history impacted average Chinese citizens as well as famous names like Mao, Sun Yat-sen, & Chiang Kai Shek.

The history of China since 1900 is fascinating by itself. Sun Yat-sen had so many great ideas for the republic, but he lacked the support and the necessary political skills to pull them off. Then the Japanese invaded.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:55:52pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Makes sense. I forget but where’s the province you teach at. I always had such a difficult time remembering where all the provinces were. There are so many.

I was in Hunan, to the east of Sichuan. Now I’ll be in Henan, two provinces NNE of Hunan. Not known for spicy food. :-(

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:56:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:58:18pm

re: #70 wheat-dogg

The history of China since 1900 is fascinating by itself. Sun Yat-sen had so many great ideas for the republic, but he lacked the support and the necessary political skills to pull them off. Then the Japanese invaded.

It really is. We read a great book called women in the Chinese Enlightenment and it covered a few women, all of whom lived well into their 90’s experiences of the 20th century. You had one who was part of the KNT, another who was CCP. Amazing lives they lived. Agree about Sun too. I’d love to learn more about him and his ideas.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:58:53pm

re: #71 wheat-dogg

I was in Hunan, to the east of Sichuan. Now I’ll be in Henan, two provinces NNE of Hunan. Not known for spicy food. :-(

Gotcha. Bummer. Spicy is good.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:59:23pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

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I think the default for new accounts is 280, because I created a new one to bleed off some of the topics I follow, and I had 280 characters to play with right away. My old account though is still at 140.

Which is stupid. All Twitter devs need to do is globally change the character limit for everyone from 140 to 280. Doling it out to “special” people is needless.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:59:30pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s land-locked, a basin and a plateau with a river between, east of the Tibet Autonomous Region and North of Yunnan.

The only thing I don’t see in recipes is certain kinds of ocean fish and molluscs. Otherwise they’ve got access to pretty much all the meat options, plus tofu.

Sounds good and varied.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 9:59:56pm

re: #67 majii

We will reap what we sow.

sigh.

My Aunt who’s 87 says she’s seen it all. She has.

But we’re all, hold that beer!

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:00:39pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Gotcha. Bummer. Spicy is good.

I’ll buy some LaoGanMa (“Spicy Grandma”) chili sauce and perk it up myself. ;-)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:01:37pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

We will reap what we sow.

sigh.

My Aunt who’s 87 says she’s seen it all. She has.

But we’re all, hold that beer!

I hope older women like your aunt and my grandmother can see a woman potus. That’s another reason why I was so saddened by November’s results. I really wanted to see my grandmother’s joy for the first woman potus. I wanted it for my niece too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:02:23pm

re: #78 wheat-dogg

I’ll buy some LaoGanMa (“Spicy Grandma”) chili sauce and perk it up myself. ;-)

Love that name given my own grandma would never go anywhere near it haha.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:02:25pm

Getting a strong Silicon Valley libertarian tech bro vibe from this account. Odds are strong it is a Twitter employee.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:05:33pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

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Getting a strong Silicon Valley libertarian tech bro vibe from this account. Odds are strong it is a Twitter employee.

If he believes businesses should be able to fire at will, he should not complain about things like unemployment benefits or other things that help the out of work. That’s libertarianism tho Frank. Any government action is bad but business can stomp on you and ask for seconds and it’s the “free market” and if you think otherwise you’re a “statist.”

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:06:00pm

re: #32 freetoken

Well, I know who I’ll be working against from now on.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:08:21pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I hope older women like your aunt and my grandmother can see a woman potus. That’s another reason why I was so saddened by November’s results. I really wanted to see my grandmother’s joy for the first woman potus. I wanted it for my niece too.

Nah, don’t see it HW. a huge barrier with lots of ingrained bias.

We are a ways away.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:11:31pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Love that name given my own grandma would never go anywhere near it haha.

LaoGanMa - “Spicy Grandma” chili sauce

My son has some in his cupboard.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:12:44pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

Nah, don’t see it HW. a huge barrier with lots of ingrained bias.

We are a ways away.

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I’m cynical too. There’s a lot of sexism in this society still and it ain’t just on the right.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:13:03pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:16:24pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

I’ll look, thanks.

Check the Asian supermarkets.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:16:52pm

re: #88 wheat-dogg

Check the Asian supermarkets.

That was my thought too.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:22:57pm

Good night, y’all

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:23:01pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:25:09pm

Lucky me, tomorrow’s conference call changed from 730 am to 10 am.

I wish I was rich & leisurely

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:28:41pm

re: #91 Kragar

Pitiful

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petesh  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:32:20pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

Lucky me, tomorrow’s conference call changed from 730 am to 10 am.

I wish I was rich & leisurely

I wish you were too. Care to fund a writing project?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:47:34pm

re: #78 wheat-dogg

I’ll buy some LaoGanMa (“Spicy Grandma”) chili sauce and perk it up myself. ;-)

in the russian grocery stores you can buy something called ‘grandmother salad’

i suppose it’s made with real grandmothers

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:54:15pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:56:33pm

Twitter is weird.

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 10:58:18pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:08:49pm

Roy Moore’s son has been arrested for the ninth time, this time for hunting over bait and trespassing to hunt:

wonkette.com (Commentary very NSFW)

This is the ninth time he has been arrested. He’s previously been convicted in two states of drunken driving, of domestic violence, and for drug crimes.

He has never served time in jail (except for bookings). He has twice been in drug diversion programmes.

When will Christian conservatives and Republicans call out the thugs in their midst?

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:12:35pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

Roy Moore’s son has been arrested more times than me?!? Goddamn!

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Cheechako  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:15:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:16:08pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Roy Moore’s son has been arrested more times than me?!? Goddamn!

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I almost guarantee Roy Moore’s son is going to claim (again) that he’s “forgiven” and he’ll get another “don’t do that.”

Roy Moore is claiming this is all politically motivated (his son claimed the same thing about his Florida arrest a few years ago).

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:16:42pm

Zing!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:22:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:26:35pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:29:03pm

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Sichuan is to die for. They tone the spice down for Americans, and usually the American menus have warnings for the really spicy ones, like good Mexican places do. Unlike Hunan cuisine, which uses hot peppers to the point you can’t taste anything but, Sichuan has a more balanced taste, IMO.

Sichuan pepper are little seeds that aren’t capsaicin peppers at all. If you don’t like the numbing effect, you can pick them out. Chopsticks are handy for that.

There was a really good Sichuan place up in Camas, WA of all places. And like you said, they had the warnings for the really spicy dishes, which they billed as “authentic” Sichuan cuisine. I tried that one time. Remember that scene in Terminator 2?…..the nuke scene? Yeah, that’s pretty much what the inside of my mouth felt like.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:30:53pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Shouldn’t “He’s guilty as fuck!” be on there?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:34:56pm

re: #107 Single-handed sailor

Shouldn’t “He’s guilty as fuck!” be on there?

Well, that would fall under “he’s being indicted.” Guilty comes after a trial.

And isn’t it conservatives that seem to say a lot that if you’ve nothing to hide, there’s no need to take the V Amendment? (Never mind what the V Amendment is really for.) Where are all the “law and order types” now? (Probably defending Roy Moore’s son.)

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teleskiguy  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:37:19pm

Damn. So beautiful.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2017 • 11:46:45pm

Juan Cole at Balloon Juice called it, except for one prediction that didn’t come true.

balloon-juice.com

On CNN’s front page was “The Silence of Clinton and Obama on Weinstein” by Chris Cillizza.

Make no mistake, this is no “analysis” as he has it labeled. And the thing you need to realize is Cillizza KNOWS that Clinton doesn’t support rape and sexual assault, he just wants make her respond. It’s him using his forum to make her jump- he might as well be saying “Dance, mad bitch, dance,” because we all know that if she does respond, Cillizza’s next piece will be “what took her so long” and “was she sincere” and so on.

The part that was wrong? Cillizza didn’t write a second piece, he only changed the headline of the original piece to “It Only Took Five Days for Hillary Clinton to Issue This Statement about Harvey Weinstein,” (adding Hillary Clinton’s condemnation)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 12:04:32am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 1:12:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 1:23:48am

The IRS might become a key player in bringing down the Trump administration

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2017 • 1:31:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 1:44:34am

re: #114 teleskiguy

A discarded cigarette or a car’s backfire _ just about anything could have started any of the California wildfires.

a discarded bottle acting as a magnifying glass

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 3:43:15am

A Bernie Sanders Supporter Is Trying To Turn Nebraska Purple

State party chair Jane Kleeb thinks Democrats need to pay more attention to rural voters.

(Goes to Huffington Post)

They mostly put “Bernie Sanders” in the title (based on the way I read the article) to note Jane Kleeb supported Sanders in the primary, and to generate clicks.

The article goes on to say how Sanders support of Heath Mello for Omaha mayor likely hurt his chances.

The article talks about how Mrs. Kleeb is trying to rebuild what was nearly a defunct party in this state, and flip the state to purple.

Overall, the article is pretty good. Of note, the article points out the Democratic Party in Nebraska does not pay the state party chair anything, meaning all her work is for free and she must maintain her regular work in addition to running the state party.

The first thing you have to do, Kleeb said, “is you just have to show up.”

Visibility is a theme Kleeb keeps coming back to ― whether its a booth at the state fair, a pamphlet-wielding volunteer at a livestock auction house, or on the ballot. It represents an improvement over the status quo for the state’s Democrats, who have been defined by low morale after years of neglect from the national party.

“I can’t expect a voter to all of a sudden ― if they’re an independent or even a moderate Republican ― to vote for Democrats if they never see us on the issues that they care about,” Kleeb said.

In this context, refurbishing the office feels like a tastefully bedecked war cry: a rebuttal to the naysayers that even in blood-red Nebraska, there is a Democratic Party, a party with history, one that stands for something, and ― this is the part Kleeb really wants to drive home ― one that’s actually trying.

Democratic pundits in the article note it would be impossible to elect a Democrat to a rural seat in Nebraska, because the Democratic strategists believe that Nebraskans see Democrats as liberal coastal elites (cough cough, they didn’t talk to me, vice-mayor cough cough).

Mrs. Kleeb noted when she took over the state office after winning the seat of party chair, she noted it was held together by “duct tape and beer cans,” saying the national party is uninterested in rural voters.

She brings to the table her organising skills as the leader of Bold Nebraska. The organisation wedded conservative ranchers (she is a rancher herself but not conservative), hunters, conservationists, ecologists, Native American tribes, landowners, &c to successfully fight off the Keystone XL Pipeline in the state courts (Nebraska is still the only state standing in the way of that).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:08:13am

LOL

American Mensa Offers to Give IQ Test to Donald Trump and Rex Tillerson (goes to Huffington Post)

Mensa dues are good for something: to settle Donald Trump’s challenge.

“American Mensa would be happy to hold a testing session for President Trump and Secretary Tillerson,” Charles Brown, the group’s communications director, told The Hill.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:25:50am

That realization that Megyn Kelly’s rating numbers were completely driven by 100’s of thousands of TVs in generally public spaces that never change off of FAUX Noise

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:29:46am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:32:33am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:41:51am
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:44:50am

” WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said he wanted what amounted to a nearly tenfold increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal during a gathering this past summer of the nation’s highest ranking national security leaders, according to three officials who were in the room.

Trump’s comments, the officials said, came in response to a briefing slide he was shown that charted the steady reduction of U.S. nuclear weapons since the late 1960s. Trump indicated he wanted a bigger stockpile, not the bottom position on that downward-sloping curve.

According to the officials present, Trump’s advisers, among them the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, were surprised. Officials briefly explained the legal and practical impediments to a nuclear buildup and how the current military posture is stronger than it was at the height of the build-up. In interviews, they told NBC News that no such expansion is planned. …”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:49:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:49:34am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:50:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:58:10am
The missing links between galaxies have finally been found. This is the first detection of the roughly half of the normal matter in our universe - protons, neutrons and electrons - unaccounted for by previous observations of stars, galaxies and other bright objects in space.

You have probably heard about the hunt for dark matter, a mysterious substance thought to permeate the universe, the effects of which we can see through its gravitational pull. But our models of the universe also say there should be about twice as much ordinary matter out there, compared with what we have observed so far.

Two separate teams found the missing matter - made of particles called baryons rather than dark matter - linking galaxies together through filaments of hot, diffuse gas.

“The missing baryon problem is solved,” says Hideki Tanimura at the Institute of Space Astrophysics in Orsay, France, leader of one of the groups. The other team was led by Anna de Graaff at the University of Edinburgh, UK.

More on how the two groups made this discovery can be found at newscientist.com

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2017 • 4:58:59am

re: #119 FormerDirtDart

Well, this is anything but comforting.

State law prohibits custody or parenting time for parents of a child conceived through sexual assault or sexual abuse, according to Kent County Clerk Lisa Posthumus Lyons, who authored the 2016 legislation when she served as a lawmaker in the Michigan Legislature.

“This is exactly why I introduced and fought for the (law),” Posthumus Lyons said. “What I didn’t anticipate is a judge who at best is unaware of Michigan law, or at worst places rapists above victims.”

Yockey said Tuesday she doesn’t know if Ross or prosecutors were aware of Mirasolo’s convictions.

Detroit-area divorce lawyer Robert Cassar said the order granting joint legal custody to Mirasolo could have been an example of such orders being “rubber stamped” because judges and prosecutors “do so many.”

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:15:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:28:47am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

But…did they stand for the national anthem?

They always stand for “Dixie”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:30:26am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

A little Confederate flag history for the ignorant, and inconsiderate, & insensitive. “The more you know.”

Which flag are we talking about: the Confederate battle flag (which never flew above any state capitol in the Confederacy) or the Stars and Bars?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:32:22am

re: #127 MsJ

tate law prohibits custody or parenting time for parents of a child conceived through sexual assault or sexual abuse, according to Kent County Clerk Lisa Posthumus Lyons, who authored the 2016 legislation when she served as a lawmaker in the Michigan Legislature.

Custody can be denied for any number of reasons: history of drug abuse or domestic violence, other criminal record or anything deemed detrimental to the child’s well-being.

It would seem that raping the child’s mother would be a no-brainer…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:33:45am

re: #127 MsJ

Well, this is anything but comforting.

yeah, while the “joint legal custody” doesn’t didn’t grant physical custody or even visitation, the notion of that animal having even the slightest decision making authority in the child’s life is sickening.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:35:27am
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MsJ  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:39:53am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Custody can be denied for any number of reasons: history of drug abuse or domestic violence, other criminal record or anything deemed detrimental to the child’s well-being.

It would seem that raping the child’s mother would be a no-brainer…

Apparently not. When you need legislation to deal with common sense issues, it’s anything but a no-brainer.

This is the kind of thing that comes from people like Aiken who talk about Legitimate Rape and have no idea of basic biology.

When I told my husband this story, he first said “well, they obviously had a relationship prior to the child being born” at which point I said that she was 12 when she conceived. He was like…Oh. Nope. WTF?! which is what anyone with a fucking drop of common sense would think. So this is just another breakdown of women having any rights or control of their own lives.

Oh, and also from that story, he was convicted of ATTEMPTED criminal sexual conduct. The child was apparently not sufficient evidence of ACTUAL criminal sexual ASSAULT? Gah!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:41:52am

re: #134 MsJ

Oh, and also from that story, he was convicted of ATTEMPTED criminal sexual conduct. The child was apparently not sufficient evidence of ACTUAL criminal sexual ASSAULT? Gah!

I believe that was related to a plea bargain on his part.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:42:24am

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

yeah, while the “joint legal custody” doesn’t didn’t grant physical custody or even visitation, the notion of that animal having even the slightest decision making authority in the child’s life is sickening.

Where rapists can get custody or visitation rights:
cnn.com

No law prohibiting rapists seeking custody or child visitation:
MN, ND, WY, MS, AL

New laws blocking parental rights (as of 2016):
AZ, IA, MI, IN, GA, CT, ME

Rest of states require a conviction to block parental rights.

Forty-three other states and the District of Columbia have legislation that offers at least some protection to prevent rape victims from facing their attackers over parental rights; eight of those laws were just adopted in 2016.

But these legislative protections vary greatly. In 20 states and D.C., a rape conviction is required before a victim can request termination of parental rights.

My state’s law (NE) reads:

An individual who’s convicted of sexual assault in this state may [italics mine] lose parental rights to any child conceived during the attack.

Each of the states’ laws are in the article. Most states do not protect women from facing custody or visitation battles.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:46:43am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:47:08am

re: #134 MsJ

When I told my husband this story, he first said “well, they obviously had a relationship prior to the child being born” at which point I said that she was 12 when she conceived. He was like…Oh. Nope. WTF?! which is what anyone with a fucking drop of common sense would think. So this is just another breakdown of women having any rights or control of their own lives.

(rest cut)

And there is another problem you didn’t bring up your husband noted but apparently didn’t think through:

Having a relationship in no way has any bearing on sexual assault or rape. It doesn’t matter if the woman was married to the man for twenty years, sexual assault or rape are still unjustified (but sadly allowed in some states).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:53:08am

goprapeadvisorychart.com

You may recall the chart was originally colour-coded to resemble GW Bush’s terrorism advisory chart.

Since then, the number of stupid comments about rape from conservative politicians has grown so large that the chart is divided into ten chapters of entries, plus a special Donald Trump chapter.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:53:27am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe that was related to a plea bargain on his part.

Which is wrong on every conceivable level.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:54:21am

The damage done in such a short amount of time will be bloody fucking astronomical. And there seems to be precious little to be done about the massive steamroller put into motion on this measure. It’s fucking galling.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:56:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:56:22am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

goprapeadvisorychart.com

You may recall the chart was originally colour-coded to resemble GW Bush’s terrorism advisory chart.

Since then, the number of stupid comments about rape from conservative politicians has grown so large that the chart is divided into ten chapters of entries, plus a special Donald Trump chapter.

Part of it is that the word “rape” is a very loaded term.

Legally it simply means sex without consent: whether that was through force or threats of force, intimidation, coercion, or whether the partner was not of legal age or compos mentis enough to grant consent, is a matter to be judged in individual cases.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2017 • 5:56:49am

Meeting time. BBIAB.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:02:11am

re: #142 FormerDirtDart

Alabama GOP Senate hopeful Roy Moore calls son’s ninth arrest a ‘cheap political trick’
— Raw Story

Ah, the “party of responsibility” rides again.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:05:27am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

LOL

American Mensa Offers to Give IQ Test to Donald Trump and Rex Tillerson (goes to Huffington Post)

Mensa dues are good for something: to settle Donald Trump’s challenge.

Obviously a biased, anti-Trump organization.

///

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:05:57am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

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Phew, I was worried it would be Martinsville, IN.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:09:31am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Why is the NFL getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disrespecting our Anthem, Flag and Country? Change tax law!
— Donald J. Trump

After repeated failures, bankruptcies, area man seeks fresh start.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:09:41am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Part of it is that the word “rape” is a very loaded term.

Legally it simply means sex without consent: whether that was through force or threats of force, intimidation, coercion, or whether the partner was not of legal age or compos mentis enough to grant consent, is a matter to be judged in individual cases.

I don’t know, it doesn’t seem loaded to me.

Legally it simply means sex without consent

Yup, no consent, it’s rape.

The tough part is getting a conviction - all it takes is one juror to think “well, I don’t know, she’s been his wife for twenty years, can it really be rape?” and the case goes out the window.

While it is a defence attorney’s job to make the best case for his or her client, that’s why they play on every conservative idea about rape to cast doubt: She was dressed like a slut, she had a lot of sex partners, she was drunk, he was drunk, she said no but did she really mean it …

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:20:23am

lol at the CNN headline:

Trump may trade Twitter spats for tax push … for now

I don’t dare even begin to say on how infantile this POTUS is and how it is just accepted as OK.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:20:46am
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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:21:24am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

GOPers continue attacking Clinton for her ties to accused sex predator Weinstein, while the GOP continues to rally around admitted sex predator they elected to WH, Donald Trump.

That’s entirely expected.

What isn’t expected is that Trump called for a massive expansion of the US nuclear weapons stockpile. He’s calling for a 10x increase.

To put that into perspective, it would cost more than $1.4 trillion just to maintain and modernize the existing stockpile over the next couple of decades.

Trump wants to essentially abrogate existing nuclear weapons treaties (START, SALT, and their follow on agreements) so we can do what exactly?

We’re supposedly going to find trillions of dollars to spend on nukes when we can’t find a few billion (pocket change in comparison) to help Puerto Rico get its grid rebuilt and help millions of Americans in need now.

Trump wants an earth shattering kaboom. He’s been fixated on it since before he ran for office, and it was one of the first things he asked upon beginning to receive briefings as a nominee. The man is completely deranged and delusional, and still more evidence is that there’s apparently a plan for top advisers to tackle Trump should he go for the nuclear football.

Trump must be removed from office, but that’s still entirely in the hands of a feckless and craven GOP that is fully compromised because they’ve enabled Trump all along. Even if we just stick to the issue of nuclear weapons, Trump’s fascination and intent to try and use them shows a reckless disregard for human life.

But we can’t just narrow Trump’s mental health mess to nuclear weapons. There’s his lack of empathy towards others, his constant attacks on people he considers enemies because they don’t agree with him (even when Trump is factually wrong). No one around Trump seems willing or able to correct Trump (surrounded by yes men as advisers), and he doesn’t seem grounded in reality on anything he tweets or speaks of.

There’s a cult of personality he’s created within the GOP, and the GOP wont act because their core support believes Trump over them. He’s coopted the GOP’s own refusal to accept facts and reality and now the GOP is endangering the nation and the world.

The GOP is compromised and has undermined US national security with each passing day, so any GOPer who wants to talk about national security should start with their oath of office and resign for failure to uphold and defend the Constitution and the nation from threats foreign and domestic.

Turns out that Trump is both - a threat foreign and domestic.

But don’t take my word on Trump’s insane nuclear weapons plan… let’s go to the experts:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:21:50am

re: #150 b.d. (bill d.)

lol at the CNN headline:

I don’t dare even begin to say on how infantile this POTUS is and how it is just accepted as OK.

again, his personality was a selling point to his base, who wanted someone who thinks and acts just like they would

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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:24:58am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:25:47am

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Gah! I’m on Facebook for less than an hour and already I find people saying the Las Vegas shooting was staged. “Things don’t add up.”

I think I’ll just mute my ex-sister-in-law.

I muted a lot of people to eliminate most of the crazy from my feed. My Facebook feed is a lot more pleasant now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:27:14am

re: #155 Big Beautiful Door

I muted a lot of people to eliminate most of the crazy from my feed. My Facebook feed is a lot more pleasant now.

I have dropped or unfriended a lot of people who got too political. To me, FB is about who your friends are hanging with, where they went on vacation, cute kid and pet videos, etc…not politics and certainly not a source of news.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:30:20am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

You do see the good sides of people though emerge though too. I hate that feeling though. I didn’t block my one friend but I definitely had to stop following him for a while because all he posted and liked were stupid right wing memes. I have to admit. I’m guilty of turning my FB to a political soap box as of late but you know what, I’m frustrated with Fuckface and his enablers.

I stick to family photos and funny animal videos so as not to disrupt relationships, and argue politics anonymously online. I don’t like fighting with people I care about.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:32:57am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, his personality was a selling point to his base, who wanted someone who thinks and acts just like they would

This is so true. My RWNJ acquaintance (with a doctorate in history) sent an endorsement letter to everyone last year where he specifically mentioned his delight in supporting someone who tells it like it is and riles the liberals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:36:29am

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

This is so true. My RWNJ acquaintance (with a doctorate in history) sent an endorsement letter to everyone last year where he specifically mentioned his delight in supporting someone who tells it like it is and riles the liberals.

they have been told what “pisses off liberals”: basically any form of rude, sociopathic, anti-social or self-destructive behavior

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:40:08am

Morning.

I decided to watch Morning Joke a bit this morning. He sometimes has some good reporting on what is up with Trump even though Joke and Mika make me cringe. I’m sort of glad I tuned in and I am sort of frightened by some of the reports.

Here are two. The first one terrified me. The second was somewhat scary but it helps give some back story as to what caused Tillerson to call Donny a moron. There is some overlap in what they are talking about. Drag the first video to about 5:00, that is where it gets terrifying.

He is a fucking moron. Joke points out how stupid Trump’s team is about history and their literally thinking history starts January 20th 2017…with Trump and company.

These reports need to be seen by everyone in America to understand the real danger the Orange Water Buffalo is to the U.S. and the world.

Iframe

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:40:17am

re: #157 Big Beautiful Door

I stick to family photos and funny animal videos so as not to disrupt relationships, and argue politics anonymously online. I don’t like fighting with people I care about.

I don’t blame you honestly. I think part of the reason why I do it is because I know most of my family and friends do agree with where I’m coming from but I definitely try to lighten it up too with family photos, music, etc.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:40:58am

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cleek’s Law and the Deification of the Asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:41:05am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they have been told what “pisses off liberals”: basically any form of rude, sociopathic, anti-social or self-destructive behavior

Which I think really shows you what their real ideology is. It’s not well thought out at all. It’s all about hating liberals and pissing liberals off.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:42:14am

re: #142 FormerDirtDart

So Raw Story is two days behind Wonkette reporting on that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:43:32am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Which I think really shows you what their real ideology is. It’s not well thought out at all. It’s all about hating liberals and pissing liberals off.

These are people who take their kids to McDonalds just to piss off Michelle Obama over her healthy nutrition initiative

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:43:42am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame you honestly. I think part of the reason why I do it is because I know most of my family and friends do agree with where I’m coming from but I definitely try to lighten it up too with family photos, music, etc.

My family just sticks to the US Mail. Takes a bit longer, but you get a real photograph in the end.

As for music, no one in my family likes the same music, so sharing that would be pointless.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:46:01am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

My family just sticks to the US Mail. Takes a bit longer, but you get a real photograph in the end.

As for music, no one in my family likes the same music, so sharing that would be pointless.

Well it’s a quicker way of my parents getting new photos of my niece too. Plus you can post videos as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:46:35am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Well it’s a quicker way of my parents getting new photos of my niece too. Plus you can post videos as well.

especially living overseas

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:46:47am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

These are people who take their kids to McDonalds just to piss off Michelle Obama over her healthy nutrition initiative

Oh I know it. It’s pathetic. They really think they’re infuriating healthy eating advocates but they’re really just acting like childish dicks.

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jeffreyw  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:46:57am

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Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:47:43am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

especially living overseas

Yep. I have cousins that live overseas. Plus FB has the chat software which is nice. The platform really does have a lot of problems but it’s got all the users it does for a reason.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:48:04am

re: #142 FormerDirtDart

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Interesting. Do they have a machine down south that cranks out replicants of spoiled kids?

Roy Moore’s son reminds me a bit of the Texas Tech shooter from the other day. Not that they look exactly the same, but they have a certain cocky above the law look to them.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:49:05am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Oh I know it. It’s pathetic. They really think they’re infuriating healthy eating advocates but they’re really just acting like childish dicks.

The problem is that if nothing else, the past few years have shown that spite and hate are not only viable and effective engines of politics, but perhaps far and away the outright most effective and powerful engines of politics

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:49:40am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Oh I know it. It’s pathetic. They really think they’re infuriating healthy eating advocates but they’re really just acting like childish dicks.

nothing obsesses some people more than bodily openings and what goes in and comes out of them…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:50:12am

NSFW

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:51:23am

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

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They’re old enough to be his granddaughters and he’s a married man.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:53:00am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

But don’t you dare kneel to protest racism. That’s just wrong.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:53:00am

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #176 HappyWarrior

But see, this is what most Americans dream of being able to do, and just ‘boys being boys’ behavior, so it’s ok. Not like taking a knee or refusing to say a prayer to the national icon and scion that is the blessed Flag.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:55:13am

re: #178 Citizen K

But see, this is what most Americans dream of being able to do, and just ‘boys being boys’ behavior, so it’s ok. Not like taking a knee or refusing to say a prayer to the national icon and scion that is the blessed Flag.

And at the same time, we call those women sluts but say nothing about the old men.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:56:46am

re: #177 GlutenFreeJesus

But don’t you dare kneel to protest racism. That’s just wrong.

I really really hate how that kneeling has been twisted to be made disrespect of the military and their sacrifices. It was a former Green Beret that suggested Kaep kneel. We’re going to look back on this and see the people who booed and shouted shit at the kneelers as no different from those who shouted racial slurs at Jackie Robinson.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:57:07am

re: #178 Citizen K

But see, this is what most Americans dream of being able to do, and just ‘boys being boys’ behavior, so it’s ok. Not like taking a knee or refusing to say a prayer to the national icon and scion that is the blessed Flag.

As I am not religious, I don’t worship things like icons.

My understanding of most Christian denominations is that idol or icon worship is prohibited. (Wouldn’t that definition include flags?)

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No Depression  Oct 11, 2017 • 6:58:00am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

They’re old enough to be his granddaughters and he’s a married man.

Jerry Jones is an absolute piece of shit, and I say this as a Cowboys fan. And now that he’s siding with the White Supremacist in Chief over his own players, I’m seriously considering quitting this team for good. I hate Donald Trump a lot more than I love the Cowboys, and I know I’m not the only fan that feels that way. Fuck Jerry Jones.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:00:17am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:00:35am

re: #182 No Depression

Jerry Jones is an absolute piece of shit, and I say this as a Cowboys fan. And now that he’s siding with the White Supremacist in Chief over his own players, I’m seriously considering quitting this team for good. I hate Donald Trump a lot more than I love the Cowboys, and I know I’m not the only fan that feels that way. Fuck Jerry Jones.

He’s an ass.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:00:59am

re: #183 Bubblehead II

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Stalin would love this guy.

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:02:03am

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

Well, its a gray area (Catholic Schooled here for 13 years). My thought is of when Jesus said, “Pay unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. Pay unto the Lord what is the Lord’s.” So you can be OK with the idol if it a form of pride. But you should not revere the item beyond God.

But its no the flag we have an issue with - its money. I remember in school as a kid when the teachers/nuns would mention money as a form of idol worship. This lesson though apparently didn’t get around much as it seems to have only gotten worse since the 1990s.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:03:13am

re: #183 Bubblehead II

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I’m President I can Capitalize any Word that I Want too + Imma genius!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:04:17am

re: #186 CongoJack

Well, its a gray area (Catholic Schooled here for 13 years). My thought is of when Jesus said, “Pay unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. Pay unto the Lord what is the Lord’s.” So you can be OK with the idol if it a form of pride. But you should not revere the item beyond God.

But its no the flag we have an issue with - its money. I remember in school as a kid when the teachers/nuns would mention money as a form of idol worship. This lesson though apparently didn’t get around much as it seems to have only gotten worse since the 1990s.

Catholics also have the Saints too. I’m Catholic too at least in family background and I could not help but to think of how my great uncle lived- he was a priest versus how Joel Osteen lives following Harvey.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:04:28am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they have been told what “pisses off liberals”: basically any form of rude, sociopathic, anti-social or self-destructive behavior

The same phrase is repeated by my relatives who endlessly bullshit about their “deep christian faith”—the kind of faith that compelled them to post every lie and piece of trash about the Black President on their Facebook pages. And now they bow down and kiss Trump’s ass because he’s “Gawd’s Man”…

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:05:04am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Stalin would love this guy.

yep.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:05:25am

We’re going to Nuke North Korea and Rockefeller Center

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:05:45am

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

The same phrase is repeated by my relatives who endlessly bullshit about their “deep christian faith”—the kind of faith that compelled them to post every lie and piece of trash about the Black President on their Facebook pages. And now then bow down and kiss Trump’s ass because he’s “Gawd’s Man”…

I’m sure it feels like deja vu for you seeing the same people that embraced Hollywood Reagan over the Sunday School Teacher Carter embracing Trump as this religious hero. That just to me shows how the religious right are some of the most gullible and bigoted godamned fools out there.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:05:56am

re: #183 Bubblehead II

Someone should tell him we need to reinstate the fairness doctrine.

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:06:00am

re: #183 Bubblehead II

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How does this not conflict with the 1st Amendment? His Twitter account is basically evidence of the administration/government breaking the 1st Amendment by putting pressure on media and other corporations who in turn take actions against people this administration does not like. If still have an impartial judicial branch I would like to see how this would shake out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:08:14am

re: #183 Bubblehead II

Trump doesn’t have that authority. He has the exact same authority of any other citizen on the issue of the public service of television stations (networks don’t have licences):

He can write a letter of complaint about the specific station over which he has a complaint to the station (which is required to keep it on file), or to the FCC.

As for cable stations, they are not licensed by the FCC either.

He really doesn’t understand how any of this works, does he?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:08:44am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I’m sure it feels like deja vu for you seeing the same people that embraced Hollywood Reagan over the Sunday School Teacher Carter embracing Trump as this religious hero. That just to me shows how the religious right are some of the most gullible and bigoted godamned fools out there.

Happy, I remember 1980 all too well when my “born again” insane aunt who voted for Carter in 1976 abandoned him for Reagan because she believed Old Fart Falwell’s lies that Carter was implementing affirmative action for gays and lesbians…

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:09:01am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Catholics also have the Saints too. I’m Catholic too at least in family background and I could not help but to think of how my great uncle lived- he was a priest versus how Joel Osteen lives following Harvey.

Joel Osteen aggravates me to no end. My wife, when we first starting dating, had a few of his books around. We talked about it and I found out my wife is not religious (agnostic - I’m an atheist) but she just likes the books as self-help/reflective books that help her think things through. I said that’s fine - but no more Joel Osteen (I then bought her my version of a self help book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, which I recommend.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:09:37am

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹

So Raw Story is two days behind Wonkette reporting on that.

No. One day ago Wonkette reported on the the young Moore’s most recent and past arrests.
Raw Story is reporting on Judge Moore’s reaction. Which Wonkette did not cover

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:10:13am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

Trump doesn’t have that authority. He has the exact same authority of any other citizen on the issue of the public service of television stations (networks don’t have licences):

He can write a letter of complaint about the specific station over which he has a complaint to the station (which is required to keep it on file), or to the FCC.

As for cable stations, they are not licensed by the FCC either.

He really doesn’t understand how any of this works, does he?

He understands that it necessary to paint the media as liars and cowards

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:10:25am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

“American Mensa would be happy to hold a testing session for President Trump and Secretary Tillerson,” Charles Brown, the group’s communications director, told The Hill.

Pretty sure ****p’s idea of a comparison involves him bringing out a sheet of paper with a number that he purports is his IQ. It does not involve sitting to a test.

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No Depression  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:10:49am

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

As I am not religious, I don’t worship things like icons.

My understanding of most Christian denominations is that idol or icon worship is prohibited. (Wouldn’t that definition include flags?)

There’s a Christian flag with its own pledge of allegiance attached to it. Most Christians in this country don’t seem to take any of that “no idolatry” stuff seriously at all.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:11:17am

re: #194 CongoJack

How does this not conflict with the 1st Amendment? His Twitter account is basically evidence of the administration/government breaking the 1st Amendment by putting pressure on media and other corporations who in turn take actions against people this administration does not like. If still have an impartial judicial branch I would like to see how this would shake out.

This administration believes the Constitution DOESN’T APPLY to them and therefore cannot and will not abide by it. It’s that simple.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:12:01am

re: #196 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, I remember 1980 all too well when my “born again” insane aunt who voted for Carter in 1976 abandoned him for Reagan because she believed Old Fart Falwell’s lies that Carter was implementing affirmative action for gays and lesbians…

It’s insane isn’t it? I was always proud that my parents and grandparents all saw through Reagan. I still remember how my mom’s dad liked to joke that he wasn’t even that good of an actor. Wouldn’t know heh haven’t seen his films.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:12:27am

re: #197 CongoJack

Joel Osteen aggravates me to no end. My wife, when we first starting dating, had a few of his books around. We talked about it and I found out my wife is not religious (agnostic - I’m an atheist) but she just likes the books as self-help/reflective books that help her think things through. I said that’s fine - but no more Joel Osteen (I then bought her my version of a self help book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, which I recommend.

He’s a sick con man.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:12:35am

You know, after seeing those Morning Joke videos and reading some of the other posts related to the same Trump insanity about building up nukes and being naive of history, etc. I am now wondering what Putin is thinking?

He may be wondering if he made a big mistake helping get Trump in to the presidency. Trump is a threat to everyone in the world. Putin might be saying: “Trump is crazier than me…what have I done?”

Maybe Putin turns on Trump and gives up everything they did in the elections just to help get him out.

So I wish.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:13:15am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I’m sure it feels like deja vu for you seeing the same people that embraced Hollywood Reagan over the Sunday School Teacher Carter embracing Trump as this religious hero. That just to me shows how the religious right are some of the most gullible and bigoted godamned fools out there.

That’s because it’s not really about religion. It’s about political power. They are lying and saying it’s about religion. or they are deluded about why they are voting as they do, or they have been manipulated by cynical pundits and politicians to believe they are voting for the correct Christian choice (we’ll skip the idea that should have no bearing on politics for the moment).

Jimmy Carter is a deeply religious and faithful man, far more so than Ronald Reagan was.

While I do not have doubts over what Mitt Romney claims to believe or the depth of his own faith, most Evangelicals despise Mormonism. However, they set aside their despite of Mormonism over the deeply faithful Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton is also a deeply religious and faithful woman, far more than Donald Trump and his Two Corinthians are.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:14:17am

Why surprise, surprise, surprise! Twitter reverses its decision and lets The High Priestess of the Fetus post her Tweet with the lying baby parts allegation…

Twitter’s full statement:

“Our ads policies strive to balance protecting our users from potentially distressing content while allowing our advertisers to communicate their messages. Nowhere is this more difficult than in the realm of political advertising and the highly charged issues that are often addressed therein. After further review, we have made the decision to allow the content in question from Rep. Blackburn’s campaign ad to be promoted on our ads platform.

“While we initially determined that a small portion of the video used potentially inflammatory language, after reconsidering the ad in the context of the entire message, we believe that there is room to refine our policies around these issues.”

In other words, Twitter will post any lie a Republican says…

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:14:26am

re: #198 FormerDirtDart

No. One day ago Wonkette reported on the the young Moore’s most recent and past arrests.
Raw Story is reporting on Judge Moore’s reaction. Which Wonkette did not cover

Correct. I conflated the two (and got the day wrong).

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:15:21am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

Trump doesn’t have that authority. He has the exact same authority of any other citizen on the issue of the public service of television stations (networks don’t have licences):

He can write a letter of complaint about the specific station over which he has a complaint to the station (which is required to keep it on file), or to the FCC.

As for cable stations, they are not licensed by the FCC either.

He really doesn’t understand how any of this works, does he?

Nope. But you also have to remember, that the individual (Ajit V. Pai) he put in charge of the FCC is also working to kill net neutrality. I wouldn’t put it past him or this administration to attempt to pass some rule prohibiting negative reporting of same.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:15:25am

re: #202 Bubblehead II

This administration believes the Constitution DOESN’T APPLY to them and therefore cannot and will not abide by it. It’s that simple.

Yep…straight to the point. Trump is Emperor and is above all law.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:16:11am

Commander -in- Hissy Fit is active again

And again calling for his administration to adjudicate the First Amendment

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:16:29am

re: #207 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why surprise, surprise, surprise! Twitter reverses its decision and lets The High Priestess of the Fetus post her Tweet with the lying baby parts allegation…

Twitter’s full statement:

“Our ads policies strive to balance protecting our users from potentially distressing content while allowing our advertisers to communicate their messages. Nowhere is this more difficult than in the realm of political advertising and the highly charged issues that are often addressed therein. After further review, we have made the decision to allow the content in question from Rep. Blackburn’s campaign ad to be promoted on our ads platform.

“While we initially determined that a small portion of the video used potentially inflammatory language, after reconsidering the ad in the context of the entire message, we believe that there is room to refine our policies around these issues.”

In other words, Twitter will post any lie a Republican says…

talkingpointsmemo.com

And meanwhile, they’re banning and suspending people who use naughty words at verified people, even if those verified people aren’t the ones reporting it or taking offense to it…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:16:36am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

That’s because it’s not really about religion. It’s about political power. They are lying and saying it’s about religion. or they are deluded about why they are voting as they do, or they have been manipulated by cynical pundits and politicians to believe they are voting for the correct Christian choice (we’ll skip the idea that should have no bearing on politics for the moment).

Jimmy Carter is a deeply religious and faithful man, far more so than Ronald Reagan was.

While I do not have doubts over what Mitt Romney claims to believe or the depth of his own faith, most Evangelicals despise Mormonism. However, they set aside their despite of Mormonism over the deeply faithful Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton is also a deeply religious and faithful woman, far more than Donald Trump and his Two Corinthians are.

Oh believe me I know what they’re all about.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:17:21am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

Commander -in- Hissy Fit is active again

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So Trumpers, tell me more about how liberals are always whining and how conservatives are stoic manly men when you support this toddler.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:17:34am

re: #209 Bubblehead II

Nope. But you also have to remember, that the individual (Ajit V. Pai) he put in charge of the FCC is also working to kill net neutrality. I wouldn’t put it past him or this administration to attempt to pass some rule prohibiting negative reporting of same.

Yeah, with this current FCC Chairman (who just got confirmed for another term as Chair), it’s not out of the realm of reach. And that’s terrifying.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:19:13am

re: #205 ObserverArt

You know, after seeing those Morning Joke videos and reading some of the other posts related to the same Trump insanity about building up nukes and being naive of history, etc. I am now wondering what Putin is thinking?

He may be wondering if he made a big mistake helping get Trump in to the presidency. Trump is a threat to everyone in the world. Putin might be saying: “Trump is crazier then me…what have I done?”

Maybe Putin turns on Trump and gives up everything they did in the elections just to help get him out.

So I wish.

Not gonna happen. Putin’s desire to destroy the United States is right on schedule according to his plan. Trump’s incompetency will continue to weaken the United States to the point that the world will abandon the dollar as the reserve currency. I fully expect foreign governments to dump treasury securites as well. The government will not be able to borrow. This will lead to a spike in interest rates and cutbacks in government assistance. Washington will implode as Putin suceeds where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khruschev and Brezhnev failed…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:19:20am

re: #209 Bubblehead II

Nope. But you also have to remember, that the individual (Ajit V. Pai) he put in charge of the FCC is also working to kill net neutrality. I wouldn’t put it past him or this administration to attempt to pass some rule prohibiting negative reporting of same.

Prohibiting negative reporting on Donald Trump would be a violation of the I Amendment’s speech and press clauses.

If the FCC was to go there, it would be instant lawsuits against the FCC for violations of Constitutional rights from just about every civil libertarian group (and political party) in the nation.

The logical extension of “you can’t say anything about me” is “your political party can’t say anything about me,” “your Website can’t say anything about me,” “your newspaper can’t say anything about me.”

If such a monstrous regulation was somehow promulgated and upheld, that would be the end of Constitutional rule in the country.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:19:35am

I posted the one Photoshop of Kellyanne last night…Trump needs his version today.

You Tweet too much and it’s all bullshit.
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:20:13am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

Commander -in- Hissy Fit is active again

re: #214 HappyWarrior

So Trumpers, tell me more about how liberals are always whining and how conservatives are stoic manly men when you support this toddler.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:20:53am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not gonna happen. Putin’s desire to destroy the United States is right on schedule according to his plan. Trump’s incompetency will continue to weaken the United States to the point that the world will abandon the dollar as the reserve currency. I fully expect foreign governments to dump treasury securites as well. The government will not be able to borrow. This will lead to a spike in interest rates and cutbacks in government assistance. Washington will implode as Putin suceeds where Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khruschev and Brezhnev failed…

That is why I put in the “So I wish.” I don’t disagree.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:22:03am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Prohibiting negative reporting on Donald Trump would be a violation of the I Amendment’s speech and press clauses.

If the FCC was to go there, it would be instant lawsuits against the FCC for violations of Constitutional rights from just about every civil libertarian group (and political party) in the nation.

The logical extension of “you can’t say anything about me” is “your political party can’t say anything about me,” “your Website can’t say anything about me,” “your newspaper can’t say anything about me.”

If such a monstrous regulation was somehow promulgated and upheld, that would be the end of Constitutional rule in the country.

This seems to be the story of this entire administration from all different directions, so at least they’re consistent(ly terrifying and awful).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:23:39am

I’m rewatching John Adams and Trump just seems so oblivious to the principles of our Founders. He has no regard at all for separation of powers and the Bill of Rights. He really has no idea how the Presidency works and he’s surrounded himself with lackeys, idiots, and bigots.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:25:06am

OFFS!

Oh, the stupid is cranked up to 11 today!

Vowing to not remove any monuments from federal lands, Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke defended the Trump administration’s stance about not taking down Confederate statues and said it would upset “native Indians.”

“Where do you start and where do you stop? … If you’re a native Indian, I can tell you, you’re not very happy about the history of General Sherman or perhaps President Grant,” Zinke said during an interview with Breitbart Sunday, referencing the Union generals’ monuments around the U.S. despite their roles in creating federal policy that caused great harm to native Americans.

If anyone actually is dumb enough to believe that Native Americans would be offended by removing Confederate Statues, they’re probably dumb enough to tithe to Joel 0$teen!

talkingpointsmemo.com

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:25:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:26:37am

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

OFFS!

Oh, the stupid is cranked up to 11 today!

Vowing to not remove any monuments from federal lands, Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke defended the Trump administration’s stance about not taking down Confederate statues and said it would upset “native Indians.”

“Where do you start and where do you stop? … If you’re a native Indian, I can tell you, you’re not very happy about the history of General Sherman or perhaps President Grant,” Zinke said during an interview with Breitbart Sunday, referencing the Union generals’ monuments around the U.S. despite their roles in creating federal policy that caused great harm to native Americans.

If anyone actually is dumb enough to believe that Native Americans would be offended by removing Confederate Statues, they’re probably dumb enough to tithe to Joel 0$teen!

talkingpointsmemo.com

Yeah Ryan because the Confederates were sooooo kind to Native Americans. What a fucking load of shit. And dude you’re from fucking Montana, Thomas Meagher was one of your territorial governors, but I bet you don’t know that because you have your tongue in the CSA’s asshole all the time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:26:38am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

Sounds fine to me. Let’s begin by challenging the licenses of all Sinclair and Fox stations!

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No Depression  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:27:00am

Locker room fallout from Jerry Jones’ remarks:

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:28:32am

Spoke too soon

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:29:15am

re: #228 FormerDirtDart

Spoke too soon

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Yep Nixon was a thin skinned shit too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:30:37am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Yeah Ryan because the Confederates were sooooo kind to Native Americans. What a fucking load of shit. And dude you’re from fucking Montana, Thomas Meagher was one of your territorial governors, but I bet you don’t know that because you have your tongue in the CSA’s asshole all the time.

“Native Indians?”

Are residents of Calcutta protesting Confederate statues on Indian national land?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:31:25am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

“Native Indians?”

Are residents of Calcutta protesting Confederate statues on Indian national land?

Have to ask Zinke.

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:32:53am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

If there’s anyone left to look back.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:33:38am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Prohibiting negative reporting on Donald Trump would be a violation of the I Amendment’s speech and press clauses.

If the FCC was to go there, it would be instant lawsuits against the FCC for violations of Constitutional rights from just about every civil libertarian group (and political party) in the nation.

The logical extension of “you can’t say anything about me” is “your political party can’t say anything about me,” “your Website can’t say anything about me,” “your newspaper can’t say anything about me.”

If such a monstrous regulation was somehow promulgated and upheld, that would be the end of Constitutional rule in the country.

You know that and I know that, but so far it doesn’t seem to have penetrated this administrations head. His immigration/travel ban has been declared unconstitutional how may times? He just has his people tweak it a bit and then reissues it for another round of lawsuits. As I stated above, this administration truly believes the rules do not apply to them.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:36:00am

re: #228 FormerDirtDart

With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!

— Donald J. Trump

Can you imagine if Obama had leveled this charge at Faux news and threatened to “challenge their license”?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:36:01am

re: #233 Bubblehead II

You know that and I know that, but so far it doesn’t seem to have penetrated this administrations head. His immigration/travel ban has been declared unconstitutional how may times? He just has his people tweak it a bit and then reissues it for another round of lawsuits. As I stated above, this administration truly believes the rules do not apply to them.

Don’t forget that Trump is packing the courts with every right wing asshole that he can get his hands on. It’s only a matter of time before Trump’s Chumps on the courts uphold every action he takes!

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:36:32am

re: #233 Bubblehead II

You know that and I know that, but so far it doesn’t seem to have penetrated this administrations head. His immigration/travel ban has been declared unconstitutional how may times? He just has his people tweak it a bit and then reissues it for another round of lawsuits. As I stated above, this administration truly believes the rules do not apply to them.

For good reason too, as there have been precious few people who have actually bothered to ensure the rules apply to them, even informally, and in fact tend to go out of their way to try and normalize or make ends around the rules for this administration so they can get their way.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:37:08am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Can you imagine if Obama had leveled this charge at Faux news and threatened to “challenge their license”?

No doubt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:38:05am

From the previous thread:

re: #291 calochortus

Totally OT, but I promised pics of my new handwoven curtains for the weaving “studio” (a.k.a. daughter’s old bedroom.) Since I kept forgetting to take pictures at night when the light from the window didn’t overwhelm everything else, I’m only now posting photos. Of course, with the artificial light, the color is a bit distorted, they’re white.

For those interested, they are an 8 shaft huck lace,. Cotton warp, linen weft.
There’s another pair on a smaller window, but they’re the same-and hard to take a photo because they’re behind a loom.

My wife just took a look at your photos of your handiwork. She says the curtains are exquisite, but making cloth on a loom is way too much work for her. (She’ll do it after the collapse of industrial civilisation, but not otherwise.)

She says she’ll stick to making pencil-pleat drapes with cloth already manufactured.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:38:38am

Today is my birthday. I believe it happened around 4pm, though I was just a kid at the time and don’t remember.

I wrote this, if you haven’t seen it. Not much - just a few musings

Apropos of yesterday’s thread re the birthday paradox, etc, it would be an honor if mrs congojack timed it just right.

Then I, dangerman will eternally share 10/11 with congojack jr.
A totally cool thing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:38:50am

re: #235 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t forget that Trump is packing the courts with every right wing asshole that he can get his hands on. It’s only a matter of time before Trump’s Chumps on the courts uphold every action he takes!

There, you have the reason why Republicans went so hard to bat to elect this monster.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:39:18am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

Commander -in- Hissy Fit is active again

Paging CoS Kelly, your patient found his phone again.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:39:18am

re: #226 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sounds fine to me. Let’s begin by challenging the licenses of all Sinclair and Fox stations!

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:39:57am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Can you imagine if Obama had leveled this charge at Faux news and threatened to “challenge their license”?

Didn’t Obama state that FNC was propaganda and wasn’t letting the truth get through to their viewers (which is.. ya know… true) and CNN, MSNBC and the other new agencies all got angry and put their support behind FNC (against the criticism of the great O). Of course - when the shoe is on the other foot the conservatives don’t give a damn about those that once stood up for them.

Hmm… isn’t there a poem from a really bad war in the 1940s that has some relevance…. Hmm.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:41:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:42:46am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Can you imagine if Obama had leveled this charge at Faux news and threatened to “challenge their license”?

I recall the explosion of derp on the right when Obama commented on FOX News Channel being opposed to him. There is text of that interview from 2009 available:

nytimes.com

Newsweek has a comparison of Obama then and Trump now, pointing out that Trump is far out of bounds from what any president has done before. Presidents have had fraught relationships with the media in the past, or attacked specific reporting as untrue or distorted, but Trump (as we know) thinks the whole news media is biased against him.

newsweek.com

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:43:02am

Eminem just spoke for me. It’s amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:43:14am

re: #243 CongoJack

Didn’t Obama state that FNC was propaganda and wasn’t letting the truth get through to their viewers (which is.. ya know… true) and CNN, MSNBC and the other new agencies all got angry and put their support behind FNC (against the criticism of the great O). Of course - when the shoe is on the other foot the conservatives don’t give a damn about those that once stood up for them.

Hmm… isn’t there a poem from a really bad war in the 1940s that has some relevance…. Hmm.

He did and he was right. FNC is nothing but rw propaganda.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:44:54am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:45:13am

re: #246 plansbandc

Eminem just spoke for me. It’s amazing.

It was quite good and poignant so therefore I expect FNC to spend the morning dismissing rap music and then how celebs should shut up about politics and ask for a D list celebrity’s opinion.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:45:24am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:45:30am

re: #248 FormerDirtDart

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Fake news.//

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:46:34am

re: #239 dangerman

Today is my birthday. I believe it happened around 4pm, though I was just a kid at the time and don’t remember.

I wrote this, if you haven’t seen it. Not much - just a few musings

Apropos of yesterday’s thread re the birthday paradox, etc, it would be an honor if mrs congojack timed it just right.

Then I, dangerman will eternally share 10/11 with congojack jr.
A totally cool thing.

Lol - yeah about the Mrs. and the baby. Completely thought she was going into labor yesterday morning. But nope. We are still waiting.

As of Monday the Mrs. was at 1.5 cm dilated. My money is on Friday the 13th (upon which my grandmother and grandfather won’t come near the kid as they are completely superstitious). Which is fine - they are in their mid 80s and not certain they can be trusted to hold onto anything (including sanity) at this point.

Last night my wife and I just repeated over and over…

Nolan Robert will be here when he damn well pleases - just please make it soon, damn.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:46:54am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:47:16am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Can you imagine if Obama had leveled this charge at Faux news and threatened to “challenge their license”?

and Fox really is fake-news. They lie to their rube audience to harm the country.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:50:25am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

It was quite good and poignant so therefore I expect FNC to spend the morning dismissing rap music and then how celebs should shut up about politics and ask for a D list celebrity’s opinion.

That, and how Weinstein proves how bad Dems are and Trump’s great, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:50:43am

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

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Hopefully he reads a history book. Maybe he’ll learn something.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:51:30am

re: #254 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

and Fox really is fake-news. They lie to their rube audience to harm the country.

They either lie or find a fake outrage i.e the Massachusetts librarian.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:52:20am

re: #252 CongoJack

Lol - yeah about the Mrs. and the baby. Completely thought she was going into labor yesterday morning. But nope. We are still waiting.

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Good luck. I’m not a Dad but the day my niece was born was such a beautiful day.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:54:05am
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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:54:23am

re: #252 CongoJack

Lol - yeah about the Mrs. and the baby. Completely thought she was going into labor yesterday morning. But nope. We are still waiting.

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close works for me.
ill make up my own damn stories

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:54:29am

We have Nixon and Reagan to thank for dumbing down conservatives on everything from news to civics.

It was Roger Ailes when he was an advisor to Richard Nixon working out the problems of a GOP TV. FCC rules would not permit it (Fairness Doctrine) and cable was in its infancy with no networks outside the broadcast ones.

Ronald Reagan’s administration ditched the Fairness Doctrine during the rise of cable service, and Rupert Murdoch, with Ailes at the helm, launched FOX News Channel on the ashes of the defunct DuMont Network (Metromedia).

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:54:45am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Thanks! Never thought the day would come, never thought I’d find a lady that could put with my weirdness. I am a lucky guy on several levels. And hopefully my luck and good vibes will spread around the work and buy the world a Coke.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:55:48am

From my email -NYTimes email digest:

On Oct. 11, 1968, Apollo 7, the first manned Apollo mission, was launched with astronauts Wally Schirra, Donn Fulton Eisele and R. Walter Cunningham aboard.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:55:59am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Good luck. I’m not a Dad but the day my niece was born was such a beautiful day.

ditto x 2 nieces
—as we know i’ve been at this twice as long as you ;-)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:56:02am

re: #239 dangerman

Happy annual revolution of the planet around the Sun! Many more happy annual revolutions!

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:56:12am

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

We have Nixon and Reagan to thank for dumbing down conservatives on everything from news to civics.

It was Roger Ailes when he was an advisor to Richard Nixon working out the problems of a GOP TV. FCC rules would not permit it (Fairness Doctrine) and cable was in its infancy with no networks outside the broadcast ones.

Ronald Reagan’s administration ditched the Fairness Doctrine during the rise of cable service, and Rupert Murdoch, with Ailes at the helm, launched FOX News Channel on the ashes of the defunct DuMont Network (Metromedia).

yep yep yep. Nixon, Reagan, Bush the Lesser, and Trump - 4 worst modern presidents.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:57:28am

re: #264 dangerman

ditto x 2 nieces
—as we know i’ve been at this twice as long as you ;-)

Ha yeah. My niece apparently thinks Donald Duck is President. I wish she was right.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:57:35am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Hopefully he reads a history book. Maybe he’ll learn something.

No, I don’t think anything could help. he doesn’t seem to grasp what the protests are even about.
Obviously a FAUX Noise viewer

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:57:57am

re: #262 CongoJack

Thanks! Never thought the day would come, never thought I’d find a lady that could put with my weirdness. I am a lucky guy on several levels. And hopefully my luck and good vibes will spread around the work and buy the world a Coke.

that was some great advertising back then

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:59:14am

Off topic, but someone else spoke for me last night also. This, however, is about the embarrassment of U.S. Soccer failing to qualify for the World Cup…

espnfc.us

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:59:22am

re: #268 FormerDirtDart

No, I don’t think anything could help. he doesn’t seem to grasp what the protests are even about.
Obviously a FAUX Noise viewer

Someone should write up US history in terms of football plays.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:59:40am

re: #262 CongoJack

Thanks! Never thought the day would come, never thought I’d find a lady that could put with my weirdness. I am a lucky guy on several levels. And hopefully my luck and good vibes will spread around the work and buy the world a Coke.

Of course. For me, it’s been so neat watch my brother as a father. I’m sure you’re going to do great.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 11, 2017 • 7:59:53am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

On further research, that fellow did not invent the flag in question, he was a mere media supporter of a similar design. He did say those things, though.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:00:22am
Turkmenistan’s President gave Putin a puppy for the Russian President’s birthday during talks in Sochi. See more via Reuters TV reut.rs

Iframe

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:00:33am

re: #152 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

GOPers continue attacking Clinton for her ties to accused sex predator Weinstein, while the GOP continues to rally around admitted sex predator they elected to WH, Donald Trump.

That’s entirely expected.

What isn’t expected is that Trump called for a massive expansion of the US nuclear weapons stockpile. He’s calling for a 10x increase.

To put that into perspective, it would cost more than $1.4 trillion just to maintain and modernize the existing stockpile over the next couple of decades.

Trump wants to essentially abrogate existing nuclear weapons treaties (START, SALT, and their follow on agreements) so we can do what exactly?

We’re supposedly going to find trillions of dollars to spend on nukes when we can’t find a few billion (pocket change in comparison) to help Puerto Rico get its grid rebuilt and help millions of Americans in need now.

Trump wants an earth shattering kaboom. He’s been fixated on it since before he ran for office, and it was one of the first things he asked upon beginning to receive briefings as a nominee. The man is completely deranged and delusional, and still more evidence is that there’s apparently a plan for top advisers to tackle Trump should he go for the nuclear football.

Trump must be removed from office, but that’s still entirely in the hands of a feckless and craven GOP that is fully compromised because they’ve enabled Trump all along. Even if we just stick to the issue of nuclear weapons, Trump’s fascination and intent to try and use them shows a reckless disregard for human life.

But we can’t just narrow Trump’s mental health mess to nuclear weapons. There’s his lack of empathy towards others, his constant attacks on people he considers enemies because they don’t agree with him (even when Trump is factually wrong). No one around Trump seems willing or able to correct Trump (surrounded by yes men as advisers), and he doesn’t seem grounded in reality on anything he tweets or speaks of.

There’s a cult of personality he’s created within the GOP, and the GOP wont act because their core support believes Trump over them. He’s coopted the GOP’s own refusal to accept facts and reality and now the GOP is endangering the nation and the world.

The GOP is compromised and has undermined US national security with each passing day, so any GOPer who wants to talk about national security should start with their oath of office and resign for failure to uphold and defend the Constitution and the nation from threats foreign and domestic.

Turns out that Trump is both - a threat foreign and domestic.

But don’t take my word on Trump’s insane nuclear weapons plan… let’s go to the experts:

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Japanese Donald Trump Commercialトランプ2016

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Decatur Deb  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:00:43am

re: #254 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

and Fox really is fake-news. They lie to their rube audience to harm the country.

I can’t imagine what motivates Rupert Murdoch, but he’s far past the point where money can make any real difference in his life. It has long been obvious that he came here with the express intent of destroying the United States of America.

He hasn’t done Great Britain any favors, wither.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:00:59am

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

We have Nixon and Reagan to thank for dumbing down conservatives on everything from news to civics.

It was Roger Ailes when he was an advisor to Richard Nixon working out the problems of a GOP TV. FCC rules would not permit it (Fairness Doctrine) and cable was in its infancy with no networks outside the broadcast ones.

Ronald Reagan’s administration ditched the Fairness Doctrine during the rise of cable service, and Rupert Murdoch, with Ailes at the helm, launched FOX News Channel on the ashes of the defunct DuMont Network (Metromedia).

Nixon brought in a lot of these jerks. And I hope one day historians see that Reagan wasn’t so hot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:01:02am

re: #266 CongoJack

yep yep yep. Nixon, Reagan, Bush the Lesser, and Trump - 4 worst modern presidents.

And we wouldn’t likely have had Bush I without him being Reagan’s vice-president first.

There has literally been no Republican president in my lifetime that wasn’t criminally corrupt (except Eisenhower, but I was only an infant in the last year of his presidency).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:01:58am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart

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Trump doesn’t like dogs. That should tell you all you need to know about him.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:02:59am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

Happy annual revolution of the planet around the Sun! Many more happy annual revolutions!

Hey ‘mouse

last night we were out to dinner with some folks. mrs dm and the two others were wondering why all the flags were at half mast. One of them mentioned “right - at the firehouses”.

i said i know a guy, lives in a small town in nebraska, wears that hat for the town, and knows this stuff. He explained to us at lgf, about the fallen firefighters memorial.

yeah - i was totally smug

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:04:08am

re: #275 Big Beautiful Door

Too bad they didn’t run that advert here. (That was weird …)

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:04:52am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Ha yeah. My niece apparently thinks Donald Duck is President. I wish she was right.

mine, alas, are older (i’m presuming) - college age. they havent become aware/engaged yet. when they do, i fully expect them to be sane about it.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:09:06am

interesting article on belief, tribalism, etc
why its hard to change minds
why reason, rationality, “proof” ten times over don’t matter

the sociology of belief

it’s mostly about religion, atheism etc. and then this pops up in the middle:

I recall an article a few months back wondering aloud why Trump supporters seem convinced of everything the man ever says even after showing them he contradicts his own positions three times in a single week. They will defend anything he says or does, not because the actions or words themselves are rationally defensible, but because at some point the mantle for a particular group identity was placed on him and from that point forward it became about the tribal identity, not the man himself.

(italics original)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:11:27am

re: #280 dangerman

Hey ‘mouse

last night we were out to dinner with some folks. mrs dm and the two others were wondering why all the flags were at half mast. One of them mentioned “right - at the firehouses”.

i said i know a guy, lives in a small town in nebraska, wears that hat for the town, and knows this stuff. He explained to us at lgf, about the fallen firefighters memorial.

yeah - i was totally smug

I’m fa-mouse!

I’m glad some of the useless knowledge clanking around under my trilby was helpful …

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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:12:06am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:12:43am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Trump doesn’t like dogs.

Because they are smarter than him and he can’t manipulate them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:15:46am

There are no more half-staff days in either public law or the US Flag Code for the rest of the year.

If you see the flags at half-staff, either the President or your state governor or other local official issued a proclamation. (Local officials can issue half-staff notices under limited conditions: I have done one, after our decades-long serving village clerk died. Before I issued the proclamation I got permission from the state governor’s office first, and he issued a statewide proclamation and gave me permission to issue a half-staff notice for the village.)

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:15:54am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

Because they are smarter than him and he can’t manipulate them.

And they compete for attention and scratches behind the ears.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:15:55am

Harvard Study Shows Actual Number of People Killed by U.S. Police

In a revelatory new study published Tuesday, Harvard public health researchers report that in 2015, a total of 1,166 people were killed by police in the United States. What’s staggering about this research is not just the massive number of police killings it reports — and knowing that many of those police aren’t disciplined, — but the fact that scientists were able to conduct the study at all. Historically, the U.S. government has been unable to provide a full count of people killed by police that has the confidence of federal statisticians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:18:22am

re: #289 Birth Control Works

Harvard Study Shows Actual Number of People Killed by U.S. Police

compare that to

Shots fired by German Police, yearly (2007 - 2015)

In 2015 they fired a total of 75 shots at people, 9 of which were deadly

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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:19:06am
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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:23:22am

I’m on day 2 of a headache.

Off to the Chiropractor in a few.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:24:51am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Of course. For me, it’s been so neat watch my brother as a father. I’m sure you’re going to do great.

For me, it’s been great to watch my kids be mommies and daddies. And I get to buy them presents (this is the reason I still work full time!) get them all sugared up and then leave the room.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:25:09am

re: #292 Birth Control Works

I’m on day 2 of a headache.

Off to the Chiropractor in a few.

I’m sorry to hear you’re not feeling well … hopefully your provider can help you out with that.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:25:36am

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹

I’m sorry to hear you’re not feeling well … hopefully your provider can help you out with that.

thx

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:26:11am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

compare that to

Shots fired by German Police, yearly (2007 - 2015)

In 2015 they fired a total of 75 shots at people, 9 of which were deadly

granted they have only 1/4 our population (82 million vs 323 million) but no way that can compare to over 1,000 deaths for the US

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:26:14am

re: #282 dangerman

mine, alas, are older (i’m presuming) - college age. they havent become aware/engaged yet. when they do, i fully expect them to be sane about it.

Oh yeah she’s only three haha. She’s smart though. And I know she’ll be compassionate too since my brother and sil have good hearts.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:27:07am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

For me, it’s been great to watch my kids be mommies and daddies. And I get to buy them presents (this is the reason I still work full time!) get them all sugared up and then leave the room.

Do you know my mother?

When my son was old enough, my mother started sending to Spain the loudest most obnoxious toys she could find for my son.

Not only did she work to drive my ex-wife and me up the wall, but my neighbours too.

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BlackPearl  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:28:28am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

During the G20 riots here in Hamburg, a policeman shot a warning shot to get someone to stop beating on someone else. He is being investigated for it, and everyone is taking it very seriously.

When I heard that, I got seriously weepy. It’s so adorable. And awesome.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:28:59am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

For me, it’s been great to watch my kids be mommies and daddies. And I get to buy them presents (this is the reason I still work full time!) get them all sugared up and then leave the room.

You have a lovely family VB. It’s great how even though some of your kids and grandkids are in Israel that you all still stay connected. It’s also great your mother was able to see her great grandkids. My dad’s mom was too. Always envied my cousins’ kids for knowing their great grands. Mine all died years before my birth.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:30:40am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

Because they are smarter than him and he can’t manipulate them.

Yep.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:31:31am

bbl

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:34:10am

So someone on reddit described the orange piece of shit thus:

I mean in a way he is Churchill. Just minus the charisma, political savvy, and any real ability or intelligence.

heh!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:36:33am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Two of my great grandmothers lived well into my adulthood (24 and 36) and one great-great grandmother lived until I was eighteen.

I have two five generation photographs with me in them (one when I was an infant, one when my son was an infant).

That won’t happen any more in my family though: My son wasn’t born until I was twenty-eight, he has no children, and my sister has no children.

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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:39:45am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

Because they are smarter than him and he can’t manipulate them.

Also, dogs can sense evil.

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:41:30am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

That, and how Weinstein proves how bad Dems are and Trump’s great, etc.

Quite succinctly:

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:44:21am

re: #276 Decatur Deb

I can’t imagine what motivates Rupert Murdoch, but he’s far past the point where money can make any real difference in his life. It has long been obvious that he came here with the express intent of destroying the United States of America.

He hasn’t done Great Britain any favors, wither.

And we can thank Newt for easing Rupert’s way into the US.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:46:37am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:48:09am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:48:18am

re: #183 Bubblehead II

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Clear attempt to intimidate the Networks into censoring the news by threatening their licenses. Another impeachable offense.

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Weaselone  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:48:58am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

compare that to

Shots fired by German Police, yearly (2007 - 2015)

In 2015 they fired a total of 75 shots at people, 9 of which were deadly

It’s also amazing when you compare it to the total number of US murders in 2016 of 15,696. There are fewer than 1 million officers with arresting authority in the US. If the general adult population killed at the same rate as police officers we’d have 200K+ murders in the US.

Or we can compare it to the deaths of officers. 141 officers died in the line of duty in 2015, 58 intentionally by a civilian, the rest from accidents, illness and disease). That means that an officer was 20 times more likely to kill than be killed by a civilian. Interactions between the public and police are far more dangerous for the public than the officer.

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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:49:56am

re: #276 Decatur Deb

I can’t imagine what motivates Rupert Murdoch, but he’s far past the point where money can make any real difference in his life. It has long been obvious that he came here with the express intent of destroying the United States of America.

He hasn’t done Great Britain any favors, wither.

It’s no accident that Jonathan Pryce’s character in Tomorrow Never Dies has more than a strong resemblance to Murdoch.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:57:20am

Monica Lewinsky is debuting an anti-bullying public service announcement advert (since Melania Trump doesn’t seem to be up to the task yet).

people.com

(The advert is included in the article, more at the link)

As for the new PSA, she says, “We hired actors to reenact hateful cyberbullying posts that had been made on social media. We took those actors into public spaces. They engaged in these conversations almost as an improv, using the language which we had found online. And the footage captures people who had no idea that they were actors, then stepping in and standing up for people.”

“The people in the video who overhear the comments were not actors,” explains Lewinsky, 44. “They were not aware the actors were reading real social media posts. Their reactions and actions were real. It was heartening to see real New Yorkers stand up for people. I especially loved that most intervened without bullying the bully, but instead standing up for the targets.”

As for how her own past played a role in its tone, she says, “I think that there are are probably hundreds of thousands, if not millions of horrible things, which have been said about me online and in print. But I can count on one, maybe two hands, how many times people have been rude to my face. That’s my own personal connection. When you are with someone, when you see someone face to face, you are reminded of their humanity.”

Some time ago, Monica Lewinsky noted in a Ted talk that she was possibly the first person to lose her reputation on a global scale almost instantaneously.
ted.com

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:58:00am
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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 8:59:47am

re: #292 Birth Control Works

I’m on day 2 of a headache.

Off to the Chiropractor in a few.

feels like day 264 to me (1/20/17……)
(i dont need no doctor)

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:01:00am
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darthstar  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:04:36am
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lawhawk  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:05:01am

re: #316 Ace-o-aces

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:05:52am
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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:07:20am

re: #252 CongoJack

Lol - yeah about the Mrs. and the baby. Completely thought she was going into labor yesterday morning. But nope. We are still waiting.

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Nolan Robert. Nice name. Good luck and wish the Mrs. good health in the delivery.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:07:32am
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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:08:07am

re: #314 Dave In Austin

I assume this is photo shop. Looks fuzzy in the neck/shirt area.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:08:31am

re: #318 lawhawk

[Embedded content]Fake @NBCNews made up a story that I wanted a “tenfold” increase in our U.S. nuclear arsenal. Pure fiction, made up to demean. NBC = CNN!

I never used the word “tenfold”

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darthstar  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:09:34am

re: #318 lawhawk

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He looked at the numbers from the height of the Cold War and said, “Why are we down?” - Stupid fucker doesn’t understand context, SALT, SALT2…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:09:54am

Ok, Republicans, Harvey Weinstein is an asshole and I will not take money from him. Can I have my country back now?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:10:27am

re: #319 Ace-o-aces

…Feels like light-years ago,

This misappropriation of a distance for time really cranks me off. Just like making the Kessel run in 12 parsecs…

Grrrrrrr. Cranky old scientist man.

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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:10:29am

re: #320 ObserverArt

Thanks! Were at the point of just wanting it to happen. My wife is so uncomfortable (and is a teacher and is on her feet all day - safe to say I spend a couple hours a night rubbing her back, feet, and head).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:13:26am

It’s way past my bedtime and the day crew is safely here, so I’m going to hit the rack now.

Let’s see if we still have a free press when I wake up tonight. Not that I’m trying to put too much responsibility on y’all …

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:15:00am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Trump doesn’t like dogs. That should tell you all you need to know about him.

The dogs probably sense he is an asshole so they growl and nip at him. I can’t blame them.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:15:22am

re: #327 CongoJack

Thanks! Were at the point of just wanting it to happen. My wife is so uncomfortable (and is a teacher and is on her feet all day - safe to say I spend a couple hours a night rubbing her back, feet, and head).

(hey, all in fun here)

from where i sit, i think your priorities are misplaced ;-)
there’s still time to align our dates here on 10/11!
pretty sure just rubbing feet aint enough to do it though :-(

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:17:04am
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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:17:38am

re: #330 dangerman

Well there is an old wives tale in how to start the process of labor.

Without going to far into that area I can state we will see if that tale is correct ;).

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:18:06am
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CongoJack  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:19:09am

re: #333 Ace-o-aces

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You sir, owe me a new keyboard. Spewed water all over it.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:20:28am

Ah Randy is always good for a laugh at the expense of our Desperate Cheeto

DESPERATE CHEETO - Randy Rainbow Song Parody

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:20:53am

...

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wheat-dogg  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:22:02am

re: #321 Ace-o-aces

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Stephanie Ruhle can sometimes be too much of a booster for big business, but she’s tough and fair as a journalist. I’m glad to see her stand up to the Big Orange Yam (B.O.Y.) in such a public way. Business people watch MSNBC business coverage and they know Ruhle from her days at Bloomberg. They trust her more than they trust Trump, I’m sure, and I bet B.O.Y knows that. His fragile ego is on the line here.

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darthstar  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:22:11am
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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:22:28am

re: #333 Ace-o-aces

OK, gonna get it right this time.

I know it’s still early, but I think you’ve won the internet today. Congratulations!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:24:03am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

Trump has been accustomed his entire life to silencing opponents by threatening to sue them. As President, he has found that he could not follow this strategy so he is looking to find another way. If he succeeds, this country is gone.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:27:17am

re: #340 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump has been accustomed his entire life to silencing opponents by threatening to sue them. As President, he has found that he could not follow this strategy so he is looking to find another way. If he succeeds, this country is gone.

That is his entire MO when it comes to those who challenge him: “Take a knee or I sue your ass into the ground.”

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wheat-dogg  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:28:41am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

Ah Randy is always good for a laugh at the expense of our Desperate Cheeto

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Video

Does Randy provide the voice of Sassy Trump?

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Dragonomics  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:30:35am

re: #342 wheat-dogg

I think the actor who plays the new Tick is Sassy T.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:30:44am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹

Two of my great grandmothers lived well into my adulthood (24 and 36) and one great-great grandmother lived until I was eighteen.

I have two five generation photographs with me in them (one when I was an infant, one when my son was an infant).

That won’t happen any more in my family though: My son wasn’t born until I was twenty-eight, he has no children, and my sister has no children.

None of my grandmothers were alive when I was born. They both passed with health issues that were not treatable back before WW2. I was a late arrival in a family that was late as my parents were fairly elderly when married. Both my grandfathers had died by the time I was 10.

My father retired they same year I graduated high school…that is how late I arrived (surprise!) fully 8 years behind my next youngest brother. In a way, I was a single child due to the fact brothers don’t hang around much with a baby when they are 8, 10 and 14.

Being a kid with elderly parents presented some issues for me as I didn’t see a lot of emotional love from them…and I do believe it affected my view on relationships. Personally I would not recommend parents having kids that late.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:30:53am

re: #340 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump has been accustomed his entire life to silencing opponents by threatening to sue them. As President, he has found that he could not follow this strategy so he is looking to find another way. If he succeeds, this country is gone.

It only happens if we all give in.

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weave  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:32:42am

Jesus Christ, it’s non-stop Weinstein anymore.

Women coming forward accusing Trump over years, even minors, they are all political opportunists and they are ruthlessly attacked for it. But Weinstein, even though no one is defending the guy let alone electing him to an office, and somehow we are all responsible for his actions.

How the hell do they pull this off?

Look at this bullshit…

Tucker Carlson DOJ Should Investigate ‘Hollywood’s Culture of Systematic Sexual Abuse’

I have to say, I’m impressed, even though it’s frightening. Why can’t the left manufacture outrage and produce cognitive dissidence amongst its followers at this sort of level? It’s uncanny.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:34:46am

re: #314 Dave In Austin

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Oh look…it’s sleazebag Chris Cillizza hanging out with Hollywood guy he is using to bash his favorite target Hillary.

I’m going to save that image. Might be some use for it, as I really really hate Cillizza, probably more than any single journalist.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:34:50am

re: #346 weave

Jesus Christ, it’s non-stop Weinstein anymore.

Women coming forward accusing Trump over years, even minors, they are all political opportunists and they are ruthlessly attacked for it. But Weinstein, even though no one is defending the guy let alone electing him to an office, and somehow we are all responsible for his actions.

How the hell do they pull this off?

Look at this bullshit…

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I have to say, I’m impressed, even though it’s frightening. Why can’t the left manufacture outrage and produce cognitive dissidence amongst its followers at this sort of level? It’s uncanny.

It really shouldn’t surprise anyone. The media has scrambled for weeks to find something, anything, to get the public’s attention off Trump and just how much of a royal fuck-up he is. So now they settle for their tried-and-true method: “Moral outrage.” That Weinstein is connected to Democrats also checks the “BOTH SIDES!!!” box as well. And that he was in some way connected to Hillary means they hit their trifecta.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:36:07am

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:37:02am

re: #346 weave

Jesus Christ, it’s non-stop Weinstein anymore.

Women coming forward accusing Trump over years, even minors, they are all political opportunists and they are ruthlessly attacked for it. But Weinstein, even though no one is defending the guy let alone electing him to an office, and somehow we are all responsible for his actions.

How the hell do they pull this off?

Look at this bullshit…

[Embedded content]

I have to say, I’m impressed, even though it’s frightening. Why can’t the left manufacture outrage and produce cognitive dissidence amongst its followers at this sort of level? It’s uncanny.

“Sorry, guys, but he’s not president.”

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:37:18am

re: #346 weave

Jesus Christ, it’s non-stop Weinstein anymore.

Women coming forward accusing Trump over years, even minors, they are all political opportunists and they are ruthlessly attacked for it. But Weinstein, even though no one is defending the guy let alone electing him to an office, and somehow we are all responsible for his actions.

How the hell do they pull this off?

Look at this bullshit…

[Embedded content]

I have to say, I’m impressed, even though it’s frightening. Why can’t the left manufacture outrage and produce cognitive dissidence amongst its followers at this sort of level? It’s uncanny.

Because the left doesn’t have essential outright ownership of one of the news channels the way the GOP does with Fox, and the other aspects of the media have long since bent over backwards to believe everything bad about a Dem while ignoring anything bad about GOPers until it becomes too big to ignore…at which point they immediately find something bad about Dems to pull a ‘pox upon both houses’, ‘both sides same thing’ bullshit to absolve the GOP of any blame.

We have no real megaphone, no matter how hard we try. That’s how they manage to do it, concerted, long-term erasure. And it’s effective and almost nigh-impossible to fight at this rate it seems.

EDIT:

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:38:32am

re: #332 CongoJack

Well there is an old wives tale in how to start the process of labor.

Without going to far into that area I can state we will see if that tale is correct ;).

old wives oughta know?

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:40:13am

re: #322 CongoJack

I assume this is photo shop. Looks fuzzy in the neck/shirt area.

I hope not. I was hoping it was real. Did a google image search and there appears to be only one instance of it being on the net, so you may be correct.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:45:00am

re: #337 wheat-dogg

Stephanie Ruhle can sometimes be too much of a booster for big business, but she’s tough and fair as a journalist. I’m glad to see her stand up to the Big Orange Yam (B.O.Y.) in such a public way. Business people watch MSNBC business coverage and they know Ruhle from her days at Bloomberg. They trust her more than they trust Trump, I’m sure, and I bet B.O.Y knows that. His fragile ego is on the line here.

She does seem to like to take on Trump and she does destroy the thinking he is a great businessman. Therefore I like Stephanie and can forgive some of her thinking.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:47:17am

They spend so much time obsessing over the woman, you’d swear she won last November.

KAC, the women who accused her boss’ accusers of being liars while she and her boss were parading Clinton “victims” before the press in an example of “Whataboutism” that set new records for raw chutzpah.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:47:37am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:48:27am

Yesterday at lunch, a RW friend brought up Harvey Weinstein. This is the RW talking point of the week.

I made some dismissive comment about Weinstein being a terrible person. At least my friend did not comment about Hillary but instead talked about Hollywood values and complicity and the failure to expose his crimes earlier. I did not point out that Weinstein was no different from Ailes and O’Reilly but did make a very indirect allusion to Trump, at which point my friend backed off. He is a very devout Catholic so I did not want to mention the long-term issues in the Church, where priests who abused children were shunted off to other parishes and protected.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:49:43am

re: #355 Targetpractice

They spend so much time obsessing over the woman, you’d swear she won last November.

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KAC, the women who accused her boss’ accusers of being liars while she and her boss were parading Clinton “victims” before the press in an example of “Whataboutism” that set new records for raw chutzpah.

Well, maybe they recognize that she did, and this is their repeated Freudian slip, their unconscious acknowledgement that they slipped by and the need to cover it up and deflect lest someone actually peel back the curtain wholesale.

Thankfully, they don’t have to worry too much about that with how much of our media is full of enabling shitheels.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:51:32am

re: #357 Hecuba’s daughter

Yesterday at lunch, a RW friend brought up Harvey Weinstein. This is the RW talking point of the week.

I made some dismissive comment about Weinstein being a terrible person. At least my friend did not comment about Hillary but instead talked about Hollywood values and complicity and the failure to expose his crimes earlier. I did not point out that Weinstein was no different from Ailes and O’Reilly but did make a very indirect allusion to Trump, at which point my friend backed off. He is a very devout Catholic so I did not want to mention the long-term issues in the Church, where priests who abused children were shunted off to other parishes and protected.

There are god knows how many Weinsteins in god knows how many other industries. It’s just that Hollywood has far more public skeletons because of the nature of celebrity, even moreso than politics. Hell, I’m pretty damn sure Terry Crews made this exact point too when he opened up on Twitter about his own sexual harassment incidents.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:53:52am

re: #355 Targetpractice

They spend so much time obsessing over the woman, you’d swear she won last November.

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KAC, the women who accused her boss’ accusers of being liars while she and her boss were parading Clinton “victims” before the press in an example of “Whataboutism” that set new records for raw chutzpah.

I think they wish she had. Bitching at HRC is easier than governing.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:53:54am

re: #357 Hecuba’s daughter

Yesterday at lunch, a RW friend brought up Harvey Weinstein. This is the RW talking point of the week.

I made some dismissive comment about Weinstein being a terrible person. At least my friend did not comment about Hillary but instead talked about Hollywood values and complicity and the failure to expose his crimes earlier. I did not point out that Weinstein was no different from Ailes and O’Reilly but did make a very indirect allusion to Trump, at which point my friend backed off. He is a very devout Catholic so I did not want to mention the long-term issues in the Church, where priests who abused children were shunted off to other parishes and protected.

Funny how your friend and Tucker Carlson (video just above a bit) want to make it about Hollywood because Democrats do get some financial support from them.

But they fail to mention Donny Trump and the bus video which just happened to be captured from the show “Access HOLLYWOOD” with Trump being followed that day because he IS a part of Hollywood due to his TV show.

The word hypocrite has lost all meaning in the Time of The Trump.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:55:44am

Damn! This is a direct attack on the First Amendment. It is also an amazingly brazen example of projection, since the entire right wing, including Trump, depends on fake news and corrupt media like Alex Jones, the televangelists, Hannity, Limbaugh, Faux News, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:56:14am

Weinstein is a sleaze. So was Roger Ailes. The difference? Democrats have condemned Weinstein. Ailes got a rousing defense from Trump even. And Trump himself has been accused of mistreating women. As already, said, there’s no focus on the victims here, just a cheap attempt to attack Democrats because Weinstein is one of them. Orwell would have a field day with the modern GOP with how twisted they are.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:57:12am

re: #361 ObserverArt

Funny how your friend and Tucker Carlson (video just above a bit) want to make it about Hollywood because Democrats do get some financial support from them.

But they fail to mention Donny Trump and the bus video which just happened to be captured from the show “Access HOLLYWOOD” with Trump being followed that day because he IS a part of Hollywood due to his TV show.

The word hypocrite has lost all meaning in the Time of The Trump.

It hasn’t lost ALL meaning. It’s just become something exclusively used against Dems because only they have the shame left to be chastened by it, and the weakness to not be enabled so repeatedly by those whose responsibility is to call out such.

In other words, it’s become just another partisan bludgeon against Democrats and another thing Reps are properly inoculated for, because that’s how US politics fucking works now.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 9:58:04am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

Weinstein is a sleaze. So was Roger Ailes. The difference? Democrats have condemned Weinstein. Ailes got a rousing defense from Trump even. And Trump himself has been accused of mistreating women. As already, said, there’s no focus on the victims here, just a cheap attempt to attack Democrats because Weinstein is one of them. Orwell would have a field day with the modern GOP with how twisted they are.

Trump defended Ailes and has yet to condemn Weinstein, but we’re supposed to be worked up over Hillary not jumping like a trained seal to condemn him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:03:24am

re: #365 Targetpractice

Trump defended Ailes and has yet to condemn Weinstein, but we’re supposed to be worked up over Hillary not jumping like a trained seal to condemn him.

Exactly. Fuck that shit man.

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weave  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:03:46am

re: #351 Citizen K

Because the left doesn’t have essential outright ownership of one of the news channels the way the GOP does with Fox

And what about Breitbart. Jesus Christ, you have Bannon running that who is out there on Hannity screaming he’s going to work on primary’ing every Republican (except Cruz) who isn’t supporting Trump. That fucker is running a news outlet and he’s trying to also directly influence elections like that? My god…. Imagine if the head of any other “MSM” outlet even was seen just shaking hands with a Democratic candidate.

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electrotek  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:04:12am

RWNJ’s are more concerned with Harvey Weinstein than they are over potential Stephen Paddock’s running amok in this country.

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EPR-radar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:04:52am

re: #364 Citizen K

It hasn’t lost ALL meaning. It’s just become something exclusively used against Dems because only they have the shame left to be chastened by it, and the weakness to not be enabled so repeatedly by those whose responsibility is to call out such.

In other words, it’s become just another partisan bludgeon against Democrats and another thing Reps are properly inoculated for, because that’s how US politics fucking works now.

Exactly. The convergence of authoritarianism and worship of the rich by the US right has led them to mostly believe that groping other people at will (and worse) is just one of the prerogatives of the rich and powerful, unless there are partisan points to be made.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:05:40am

Well, this should elicit some knee-jerking

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:06:27am
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darthstar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:06:44am

Fuck Mitch McConnell with a rake…sideways.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:07:25am

re: #372 darthstar

Fuck Mitch McConnell with a rake…sideways.

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All about putting Scalia clones on the bench that will be there long after Mitch and Trump dies.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:07:33am

re: #372 darthstar

Fuck Mitch McConnell with a rake…sideways.

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This is the guy that Bannon and every wingnut out there thinks is working to undermine Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:08:16am

re: #355 Targetpractice

Ugh, Conway looks like she’s aged 10 years since January.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:09:13am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, Conway looks like she’s aged 10 years since January.

You’d age too if you had to work for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:09:29am

re: #374 Targetpractice

This is the guy that Bannon and every wingnut out there thinks is working to undermine Trump.

Yep.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:10:08am
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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:10:47am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, Conway looks like she’s aged 10 years since January.

That’s what it looks like when you have your soul sucked out, leaving you a dried husk of a human being.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:10:47am

Pharmacy delivering alzheimer’s meds to congress.

Lawmakers describe the Office of the Attending Physician as a modern space much like a regular doctor’s office — though the $3.7 million budget it enjoyed for 2016 suggests a relatively well-furnished space. It’s strictly off-limits to reporters; staff there declined repeated requests for comment, and a spokesman for the House Administration Committee that helps oversee OAP declined multiple follow-up inquiries.

That’s perhaps because the office is not without controversy. Its services — and the relatively low fees that members must pay for access — were thrust into a harsh spotlight in 2009, as Congress began to debate the Affordable Care Act and as reporters began to ask how lawmakers’ own care might color their perspectives on policy. The central issue is the cost: In 2016, lawmakers paid $611 for annual membership — a fee that, unlike most health care prices, has risen much slower than inflation. In 1992, the first year the office charged a fee, it was $520.

The Office of the Attending Physician itself was formed in 1928, after three members of Congress died in their offices within months of one another — more than 50 years after Grubb’s first opened its doors.

But the pharmacy services at the Capitol may go back even further — a 1911 text on senatorial privileges describes an “assortment of drugs and viands, tonics and recuperatives” on hand and “readily accessible” for lawmakers. Back then, reportedly, senators took tablet after tablet and vial after vial of quinine, pepsin, and calomel, “endless supplies of cough drops,” and something described as “dandruff cure.”

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:11:12am

re: #372 darthstar

Fuck Mitch McConnell with a rake…sideways.

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And thus the Death of America truly looms.

We’ll be paying for the effects and consequences of this Administration for at least 2-3 generations. If we survive that long.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:11:24am

re: #379 Targetpractice

That’s what it looks like when you have your soul sucked out, leaving you a dried husk of a human being.

Well that’s assuming she had a soul to begin with. She from what I heard was a real piece of work before she went to work for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:11:52am

re: #381 Citizen K

And thus the Death of America truly looms.

We’ll be paying for the effects and consequences of this Administration for at least 2-3 generations. If we survive that long.

The Garland stolen seat looms big.

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electrotek  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:14:19am

re: #379 Targetpractice

That’s what it looks like when you have your soul sucked out, leaving you a dried husk of a human being.

Compare her “stand-up comedy” video from 1998 to today, and holy crap! Night and day difference.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:18:36am
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darthstar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:19:28am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, Conway looks like she’s aged 10 years since January.

Ten years is nothing when you’re 743. She just hasn’t been allowed to feed on human flesh in six months.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:20:00am

re: #385 Kragar

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That, that doesn’t make any sense. Gorka’s high on paint fumes again I see.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:20:35am

re: #385 Kragar

“Good men don’t need rules.”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:20:39am
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darthstar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:22:32am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:23:13am
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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:23:34am

re: #390 darthstar

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Chris squeals when his ox is gored, but will go back to being the studious useful idiot by day’s end.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:24:06am

re: #386 darthstar

Ten years is nothing when you’re 743. She just hasn’t been allowed to feed on human flesh in six months.

I think it more likely she needs blood and to keep out of the sunlight.

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Chrysicat  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:25:00am

Warning: soccer rant.

To expand, it’s either time to go all-in on association football by the name of ‘football’ or grant that everyone over the past 50 years who kept telling us that soccer was always going to be the sport of the future and literally never the present, were right.

Either we get people to accept football for itself, or we start admitting that it’s like baseball for a subcontinent-variety Indian and always will be.

I know which one I hope for; I also have a feeling I know which one the US will choose should it even remain united (and I have my suspicions that there were issues of Trumpist-vs-sane-person in that locker room that might also have contributed, but then we all know my views on trying to rebuild bridges with the Confeds these days). And I don’t think they’re the same choice.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:26:03am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:29:06am
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Renaissance_Man  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:35:06am

re: #351 Citizen K

Because the left doesn’t have essential outright ownership of one of the news channels the way the GOP does with Fox, and the other aspects of the media have long since bent over backwards to believe everything bad about a Dem while ignoring anything bad about GOPers until it becomes too big to ignore…at which point they immediately find something bad about Dems to pull a ‘pox upon both houses’, ‘both sides same thing’ bullshit to absolve the GOP of any blame.

We have no real megaphone, no matter how hard we try. That’s how they manage to do it, concerted, long-term erasure. And it’s effective and almost nigh-impossible to fight at this rate it seems.

Everything about this is true. All major US media outlets are actively working to normalise this regime and echo its propaganda. I actually have more contempt for CNN and the NYT because their sphere of influence is larger - they have even more power and responsibility than FOX and yet choose to use it to peddle lies and false equivalencies.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:35:37am

re: #396 Ace-o-aces

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:38:33am

Eminem. Whoa.

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I cannot.  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:42:05am

Hey, Kragar, and any other Warhammer 40k players here…

Are Female Space Marines Possible? - 40K Theories

There is much butthurt in the comments.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:42:28am

re: #399 makeitstop

You just getting this? Blown away. Snoop dog’s response was awesome.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:42:38am

re: #399 makeitstop

Eminem. Whoa.

Kid Rock isn’t fit to shine Eminem’s shoes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:43:22am

re: #402 Dr. Matt

Kid Rock isn’t fit to shine Eminem’s shoes.

He never has been.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:43:31am

re: #401 Dave In Austin

You just getting this? Blown away. Snoop dog’s response was awesome.

Didn’t see Snoop’s response.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:43:59am
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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:44:14am

re: #399 makeitstop

Eminem. Whoa.

I was never a fan, as I am not much for rap (some of its cliches bug me)…but I will give him all the credit for what he did there. And the fact that it comes with the NFL and BLM stuff makes it really important right now. Good art is good art no matter the genre. And that was good art as it surpassed its genre in my opinion and became big.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:45:46am

re: #406 ObserverArt

I was never a fan, as I am not much for rap (some of its cliches bug me)…but I will give him all the credit for what he did there. And the fact that it comes with the NFL and BLM stuff makes it really important right now. Good art is good art no matter the genre. And that was good art as it surpassed its genre in my opinion and became big.

I think it was good because it was so raw and genuine. I’m usually not a big rap fan either but my brother is a huge fan and even does his own raps sometimes, and I shared the video with him and he really enjoyed it. My Dad would even jokingly call him Slim Shady when he was a kid since he kinda looked like Em a bit.

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whitebeach  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:45:58am

re: #333 Ace-o-aces

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See, this is why we need a superupding option that can be exercised, like, once a month. I propose a “tenfold” upding because that’s a popular word today and looks good in quote marks.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:46:27am

re: #404 HappyWarrior

Didn’t see Snoop’s response.

Kinda gives me the shivers….. Good shivers..

Snoop Dogg Shouts out Eminem for “The Storm” Freestyle (Oct. 10, 2017)

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:48:25am

re: #401 Dave In Austin

You just getting this? Blown away. Snoop dog’s response was awesome.

Late to the party today - jumped in on work first thing, just got to listen for the second time. That freestyle’s like an interlocking puzzle, I didn’t even notice half of what he did until I checked it twice.

re: #402 Dr. Matt

Kid Rock isn’t fit to shine Eminem’s shoes.

Never will be. Em is in a different galaxy.

Simply put, Kid Rock is the Ted Nugent of hip hop.

Also - today makes eight months smoke-free for me! I’m damn pleased with myself today.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:48:36am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

Trump doesn’t have that authority. He has the exact same authority of any other citizen on the issue of the public service of television stations (networks don’t have licences):

He can write a letter of complaint about the specific station over which he has a complaint to the station (which is required to keep it on file), or to the FCC.

As for cable stations, they are not licensed by the FCC either.

He really doesn’t understand how any of this works, does he?

The broadcast networks do own some television stations they would need licenses for, so Trump’s threat is real.

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:49:14am

re: #410 makeitstop

Late to the party today - jumped in on work first thing, just got to listen for the second time. That freestyle’s like an interlocking puzzle, I didn’t even notice half of what he did until I checked it twice.

Never will be. Em is in a different galaxy.

Simply put, Kid Rock is the Ted Nugent of hip hop.

Also - today makes eight months smoke-free for me! I’m damn pleased with myself today.

I honestly have more respect for Fred Durst than Kid Rock at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:49:41am

Durst knows he’s a sleaze bag. Rock attaches himself to a holier than thou movement with his past.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:49:53am

re: #400 I cannot.

Based on the original canon, the answer would be no, for a variety of sci-fi pseudo-babble reason. Now that Archmagos Cawl has come forward and revealed he has spent the last 10k refining and tinkering with geneseed, I can see no reason why they couldn’t make that change.

GW has also released statements stating they’re planning on including more female models into their ranges. I believe they stated they’re going to release female Imperial guard units (No “boob” plates, actual military gear), and we’re got the perennial rumors of plastic Sisters of Battle being just around the corner. Personally, I would love to pick up a squad or two so I could mod them into Wolf Sisters for an Inquisitor’s warband.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:51:37am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:51:38am

re: #410 makeitstop

Simply put, Kid Rock is the Ted Nugent of hip hop.

Also - today makes eight months smoke-free for me! I’m damn pleased with myself today.

Ted Nugent isn’t fit to clean Eminem’s toilet.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:53:04am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

I honestly have more respect for Fred Durst than Kid Rock at this point.

Durst is a knucklehead, but at least his band was capable of doing something original (Wes Borland is way more inventive than people give him credit for).

Rock started by stealing someone else’s shit and he’s been stealing ever since.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:53:52am

re: #410 makeitstop

Keep up the good work Bro. I quit in 95.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:54:00am
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Kragar  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:55:12am
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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:55:46am

re: #410 makeitstop

Late to the party today - jumped in on work first thing, just got to listen for the second time. That freestyle’s like an interlocking puzzle, I didn’t even notice half of what he did until I checked it twice.

Never will be. Em is in a different galaxy.

Simply put, Kid Rock is the Ted Nugent of hip hop.

Also - today makes eight months smoke-free for me! I’m damn pleased with myself today.

Congrats on the smoking. Gives you more bucks for guitars and related things.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:56:47am

re: #418 Dave In Austin

Keep up the good work Bro. I quit in 95.

Thanks. I don’t have any desire to smoke again at this point, but I once quit for two years when I was younger, then stupidly started up again so I know how easy it is to pick it up again.

Hopefully my willpower has improved now that I’m an old man. :)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 10:56:54am

re: #420 Kragar

As well you should.

Fred Durst Is Hosting a Jazz Club in a Magic-Themed Hollywood Bar

I saw a movie he directed. It honestly wasn’t bad.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:00:34am

re: #422 makeitstop

I’m alcoholic. I quit drinking AND smoking within a year of each other.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:00:36am

re: #420 Kragar

As well you should.

Fred Durst Is Hosting a Jazz Club in a Magic-Themed Hollywood Bar

It’s hard to believe that Limp Bizkit was briefly one of the biggest acts 17ish years ago. But, we are a nation that elects a Dotard, so nothing is out of the imagination.

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:00:39am

re: #417 makeitstop

Durst is a knucklehead, but at least his band was capable of doing something original (Wes Borland is way more inventive than people give him credit for).

Rock started by stealing someone else’s shit and he’s been stealing ever since.

Borland basically strung up his own guitar/bass hybrid instrument(as in, strung up to be halfway between a proper guitar and bass guitar in string gauge and such) to play on a couple of the albums, didn’t he?

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electrotek  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:01:13am

re: #410 makeitstop

Late to the party today - jumped in on work first thing, just got to listen for the second time. That freestyle’s like an interlocking puzzle, I didn’t even notice half of what he did until I checked it twice.

Never will be. Em is in a different galaxy.

Simply put, Kid Rock is the Ted Nugent of hip hop.

Also - today makes eight months smoke-free for me! I’m damn pleased with myself today.

Wonder how many who saw him perform at Woodstock ‘99 would be voting for him in droves.

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I cannot.  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:04:15am

re: #414 Kragar

Also, given some other ideas in that video, there’s possibilities of human mutations on other worlds. Malcador implies that some Primarchs, and possibly their legions could have been made female, EXCEPT the Emperor decided on a sausage-party…I mean…have you seen the Legio Custodes?

But, the butthurt is going psychotic in that thread…

Lord Aurelius
9 seconds ago
It’s never a matter of “just do what you want” with the forced diversity crowd. It’s always “pander to me or your a bigot”. Honestly these people need some free one-way helicopter rides.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:07:20am

‘…Robert P. Jones, author of “The End of White Christian America,” observes, “One of the most astounding shifts in modern politics has been the utter transformation of white evangelical Protestants from being confident self-described ‘values voters,’ who measured candidates for office against a high bar of moral character, to anxious and unwavering Trump supporters who have largely dropped these standards for a candidate they believe will deliver policies that benefit them.” He explains that “white evangelicals have exchanged an ethic of principle that might hold a political leader accountable to consistent standards for a consequentialist ends-justify-the-means posture that simply stops interrogating character, the quality of leadership, or the morality of actions when it’s beneficial.”

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:07:49am

re: #421 ObserverArt

Congrats on the smoking. Gives you more bucks for guitars and related things.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:09:12am

re: #428 I cannot.

As someone stated on one of the other forums, the asshole who complained about this are assholes you don’t want to play with anyways

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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:10:19am

re: #371 FormerDirtDart

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Wow, as an Eagle Scout and as a long-time Scouter, I did not see this one coming.

I mean, we have already had Exploring, Venturing, and Learning for Life co-ed for a long time, but, to have the entire Scouting program top-to-bottom open to girls/young women, this is huge.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:10:31am

re: #426 Citizen K

Borland basically strung up his own guitar/bass hybrid instrument(as in, strung up to be halfway between a proper guitar and bass guitar in string gauge and such) to play on a couple of the albums, didn’t he?

Yes, and he also started the trend of using 7-string guitars for heavy rock (along with the guys from Korn). 7 strings used to be the province of jazz players back in the day.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:11:15am

re: #432 TedStriker

Wow, as an Eagle Scout and as a Scouter, I did not see this one coming.

I mean, we have already had Exploring, Venturing, and Learning for Life co-ed for a long time, but, to have the entire Scouting program top-to-bottom open to girls/young women, this is huge.

What happens to the cookie sales?

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:11:48am
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meteor  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:12:10am

re: #415 jaunte

Praise the Lord!

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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:12:24am

re: #434 Barefoot Grin

What happens to the cookie sales?

GSA is cookies, BSA is popcorn.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:13:51am

re: #432 TedStriker

Wow, as an Eagle Scout and as a Scouter, I did not see this one coming.

I mean, we have already had Exploring, Venturing, and Learning for Life co-ed for a long time, but, to have the entire Scouting program top-to-bottom open to girls/young women, this is huge.

i’d assume theyve thought about this for some time and have a long term plan - ie “scouts” and “scouting”

“girls joining the boy scouts” just sounds funny

i have no dog in this hunt

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:14:44am

re: #437 TedStriker

GSA is cookies, BSA is popcorn.

Yeah, but if BSA destroys GSA by taking the girls away, what happens to the GSA cookies? Asking for a concerned friend. //

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:17:09am

re: #435 jaunte

[Embedded content]”It is frankly disgusting the press is able to write whatever it wants.” —Trump, just now, not really getting First Amendment

then let me explain:

the rule that lets you say that what the press does is “disgusting” is the very same rule that lets it “write whatever it wants”

lose one, lose both

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:17:52am

re: #440 dangerman

Trump is too emotionally stunted to comprehend the concept of win-win.

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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:18:18am

re: #439 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, but if BSA destroys GSA by taking the girls away, what happens to the GSA cookies? Asking for a concerned friend. //

I don’t think anyone has to worry about that anytime soon; the BSA is much more conservative and church-backed than the GSA, so I see this as National’s way of boosting the membership in areas where the GSA is seen as too “liberal”.

Still though, it’s a step in the right direction, but the matter of allowing gay adults in Scouting leadership (with no strings attached) still needs to be addressed.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:19:38am

re: #430 makeitstop

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HappyWarrior  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:20:37am

re: #435 jaunte

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Mr. Khan’s constitution never arrived I guess.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:38:14am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Monica Lewinsky is debuting an anti-bullying public service announcement advert (since Melania Trump doesn’t seem to be up to the task yet).

people.com

(The advert is included in the article, more at the link)

Some time ago, Monica Lewinsky noted in a Ted talk that she was possibly the first person to lose her reputation on a global scale almost instantaneously.
ted.com

Very unfair; she’s hardly the only young woman to become infatuated with an authority figure.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2017 • 11:43:04am

re: #441 jaunte

Trump is too emotionally stunted to comprehend the concept of win-win.

so much “not winning”

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wheat-dogg  Oct 11, 2017 • 12:10:24pm

re: #432 TedStriker

Wow, as an Eagle Scout and as a long-time Scouter, I did not see this one coming.

I mean, we have already had Exploring, Venturing, and Learning for Life co-ed for a long time, but, to have the entire Scouting program top-to-bottom open to girls/young women, this is huge.

I thought it was only for the Eagles, not the younger groups.

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stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2017 • 12:10:49pm

re: #394 Chrysicat

Warning: soccer rant.

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To expand, it’s either time to go all-in on association football by the name of ‘football’ or grant that everyone over the past 50 years who kept telling us that soccer was always going to be the sport of the future and literally never the present, were right.

Either we get people to accept football for itself, or we start admitting that it’s like baseball for a subcontinent-variety Indian and always will be.

I know which one I hope for; I also have a feeling I know which one the US will choose should it even remain united (and I have my suspicions that there were issues of Trumpist-vs-sane-person in that locker room that might also have contributed, but then we all know my views on trying to rebuild bridges with the Confeds these days). And I don’t think they’re the same choice.

St. Paul is in the process of building a tax-exempt major league soccer stadium in one of the most congested traffic exchanges in the Twin Cities. The neighborhood still has a large residential component and I feel sorry for them. I’m really glad that our mayor Chris Coleman (no relation to Norm) is retiring because I’ve really hated all of the inappropriately overscaled development that he’s been gung-ho for during his terms. He’s running for governor now and I hope it ends his political career.


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