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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:25:12pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:26:15pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:28:16pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:28:52pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:29:09pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:30:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:33:40pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

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So let me get this straight, Dana calls liberals enemies of this country and she’s whining that there’s pushback against her? What’s a matter Dana? I thought the NRA was freedom’s safe space. Maybe you shouldn’t be such a fucking hack and people wouldn’t call you out for being such a terrible person.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:34:49pm

It was a hanging curve

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:36:43pm

re: #8 gocart mozart

It was a hanging curve

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The NRA back then also promoted reasonable gun laws. The NRA had a perfect chance to show they weren’t racist assholes when Castile was murdered in cold blood but Dana being the witch she is blamed him for his own death. Not to mention the NRA loves to spread the scary minority crap to their members.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:37:54pm

Aw crap.

I got Sling TV so I could watch MSNBC without a cable box. I just noticed that the Sling package with MSNBC also includes…The Blaze…

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:38:27pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:44:45pm

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:45:01pm

This sucks. CNN should apologize to those reporters and give them back pay for the time between when they were let go and now.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:01:53pm
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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:04:57pm

Mini-trump trying to be dictatorial:

First Female Chief Justice in Philippines Faces Impeachment

[…]

Maria Lourdes Sereno, the first female chief justice in the Southeast Asian nation, has been an outspoken critic of Rodrigo Duterte’s administration. The justice committee of the House of Representatives, which is controlled by the president’s allies and initiates impeachment cases, is scheduled to decide Thursday whether to recommend the ouster of Sereno, an appointee of former leader Benigno Aquino.

[…]

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BlueGrl21  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:05:15pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

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Oh shit, he graduated from Second Baptist?!?

For those of you uninitiated in the Houston Mega church scene, Second Baptist is up there with Joel Osteen’s ilk. The Baptist here refer to their huge churches without the “Baptist,” so it’s First, Second, The Met, Sugar Creek, etc. Second is a huge monument to Southern Baptist right-wingery. No wonder Raphael turned out the way he did.

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Slump-chan  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:07:28pm
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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:09:35pm

Rotten from the core outward:

Trump official said scientists went ‘outside their wheelhouse’ by writing climate change ‘dramatically’ shrunk Montana glaciers

A U.S. Geological Survey study documenting how climate change has “dramatically reduced” glaciers in Montana came under fire from high-level Interior Department government officials in May, according to a batch of newly released records under the Freedom of Information Act, as they questioned federal scientists’ description of the decline.

[…]

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:10:52pm

re: #16 BlueGrl21

Oh shit, he graduated from Second Baptist?!?

For those of you uninitiated in the Houston Mega church scene, Second Baptist is up there with Joel Osteen’s ilk. The Baptist here refer to their huge churches without the “Baptist,” so it’s First, Second, The Met, Sugar Creek, etc. Second is a huge monument to Southern Baptist right-wingery. No wonder Raphael turned out the way he did.

His dad is a faith-healer in the Benny Hinn orbit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:11:28pm
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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:11:57pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

The power of a porn star.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:23:42pm

Melania has to know, of course, exactly what kind of man her husband is.

And perhaps she was quite fine with that, as long as she got what she wanted.

But I have to wonder, on days like today, if she ever gets sick of it.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:23:54pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

His dad is a faith-healer in the Benny Hinn orbit.

When someone tells you their church is Second you don’t have to ask them much else. It is always referred to as Second….in my part of Houston, which is fairly close to it, everyone knows what that means. For some reason it tends to attract Texas Aggies, both future and graduates, so you get that blend in as well.

My mother-in-law used to love their Christmas pageant every year. They have live camels, because of course they do. I went once, saw that huge church, and refused to go back. Pissed her off to no end but I did that a lot.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:24:30pm

re: #22 freetoken

Tough shit.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:26:23pm

re: #23 BlueGrl21

The fact that it attracts a lot of Aggies tells you all you need to know. One cult attracted by the other.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:26:26pm

re: #22 freetoken

Melania is a Birther. She’s no better than her husband. They’ve both gotten what they deserve: a loveless marriage. She gets money and prestige. He gets a hot younger wife. That’s about it.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:26:55pm
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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:27:03pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

If there is one person who could dump the goods on Trump it would be her.

I know we all believe she has a pre-nup that prevents her from saying anything, but I wonder, if she ever really wanted to tell, who could stop her at this point?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:28:14pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

She’s not hot.

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petesh  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:28:24pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Melania is a Birther. She’s no better than her husband. They’ve both gotten what they deserve: a loveless marriage. She gets money and prestige. He gets a hot younger wife. That’s about it.

Sure, they’re both grifters but he double-crossed her by becoming President. But, y’know, the payoff’s still not bad. But she didn’t sign up for this, well, work.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:30:15pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Melania is a Birther. She’s no better than her husband. They’ve both gotten what they deserve: a loveless marriage. She gets money and prestige. He gets a hot younger wife. That’s about it.

They are both horrible, horrible people.

I couldn’t give the first dribbly crap about either of them. I just want them gone. And him and his family in prison. And no money for her.

It’s that asking for too much?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:30:48pm

re: #31 MsJ

No.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:31:38pm

re: #27 JordanRules

Woooo. Lawyer was on his shit!

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:33:47pm

re: #33 JordanRules

Woooo. Lawyer was on his shit!

What did he say?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:34:16pm

re: #34 MsJ

Basically told Trump’s lawyers to put up or shut up.

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stpaulbear  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:34:57pm

re: #22 freetoken

Melania has to know, of course, exactly what kind of man her husband is.

And perhaps she was quite fine with that, as long as she got what she wanted.

But I have to wonder, on days like today, if she ever gets sick of it.

You could see how sick of it she was during every moment of Trump’s inauguration “festivities”. She was so pissed off that he won.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:35:56pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Melania is a Birther. She’s no better than her husband. They’ve both gotten what they deserve: a loveless marriage. She gets money and prestige. He gets to say he’s got a hot younger wife. That’s about it.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:37:08pm

re: #34 MsJ

I’ll post video as soon as I can find it.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:37:39pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:37:53pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:38:11pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:38:27pm
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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:38:32pm

re: #36 stpaulbear

You could see how sick of it she was during every moment of Trump’s inauguration “festivities”. She was so pissed off that he won.

the daily scandals…
And they are under a microscope now

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Interesting Times  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:43:45pm

re: #23 BlueGrl21

Hey, speaking of Houston, did you know about this??

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:43:56pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:45:48pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:45:58pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
The Trump-thing’s been quiet on Twitter most of the day.

Too quiet.

10:01 PM - Mar 7, 2018

He’s boiling. I hope they have a pressure relief valve on him. He is getting to an unsustainable level and he is going to blow up. As thin a skin he has it won’t take too much more.

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:47:25pm

re: #44 Interesting Times

So do those T-shirts say “MAKE AMERICA LIKE TEXAS”??
‘Cuz there are two interpretations of that phrase:

1. “Remodel America to be like Texas”, or
2. “Force America to have affection for Texas”.

Sucks either way…….

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:49:27pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

I think he’s trying to remember what “momentoes” of his he gave Stormy.

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meteor  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:50:13pm

re: #48 Jay C

Isn’t Texas already in America?

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meteor  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:51:56pm

re: #49 Skip Intro

Syphilis?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:53:20pm
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Kragar  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:55:39pm
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jaunte  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:56:26pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

I played basketball for the Second Baptist church team back then, before it was a megachurch. There was only one Baptist on the team.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:56:26pm

re: #53 Kragar

Of course he did. How else can he ask for cash?

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:57:23pm

Rafael “Ted” Cruz was nowhere to be found.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:58:14pm

No tariffs.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:58:46pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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petesh  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:58:59pm

If Kushner does not end up in jail for longer than his dad, there is no justice.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:59:30pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:59:59pm

re: #55 MsJ

Of course he did. How else can he ask for cash?

It’s bad form to offer to continue to commit treason with witnesses around.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:00:42pm

re: #53 Kragar

Maybe Kushner was exploring possible political refugee status he could gain?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:00:57pm

Way to go NBC.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:01:57pm

re: #48 Jay C

So do those T-shirts say “MAKE AMERICA LIKE TEXAS”??
‘Cuz there are two interpretations of that phrase:

1. “Remodel America to be like Texas”, or
2. “Force America to have affection for Texas”.

Sucks either way…….

I will not and you can take that both ways

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:04:31pm

re: #53 Kragar

JUST IN: Kushner leaves US ambassador to Mexico out of meetings with top Mexican officials:

While it’s bonehead, It won’t help keep things on the qt
You think Mexico isn’t going to blab what happened?

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:04:48pm

re: #23 BlueGrl21

When someone tells you their church is Second you don’t have to ask them much else. It is always referred to as Second….in my part of Houston, which is fairly close to it, everyone knows what that means. For some reason it tends to attract Texas Aggies …

Jeez, what are the odds?

My mother-in-law used to love their Christmas pageant every year. They have live camels, because of course they do. I went once, saw that huge church, and refused to go back. Pissed her off to no end but I did that a lot.

As far as I know, there’s not a single mention of camels in the New Testament, including in the whole nativity scene. Wrong? I mean, I’d hate to bum Second’s trip, but shit happens.

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:08:43pm

Maybe they both slept with her.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:09:03pm

re: #66 whitebeach

I saw some live camels at a First Baptist (Houston) Christmas pageant years ago. They also had a lot of un-biblical green laser beams.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:11:17pm
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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:12:12pm

re: #53 Kragar

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Maybe kushner didn’t know we have an ambassador to mexico
Either cause he’s stupid
Or he knows so many positions are still open

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petesh  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:15:59pm

re: #70 dangerman

Maybe kushner didn’t know we have an ambassador to mexico
Either cause he’s stupid
Or he knows so many positions are still open

“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

You could be right.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:18:09pm
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Interesting Times  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:18:13pm

re: #71 petesh

“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

“Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.”

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scottslemmons  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:19:50pm

“Hey, listen, El Presidente. Let’s keep this unofficial. We need money. Would you like to buy a bunch of brown people from us? You guys like brown people, right? Shh, shh, let’s keep it on the quiet…”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:20:01pm

re: #23 BlueGrl21

When someone tells you their church is Second you don’t have to ask them much else. It is always referred to as Second….in my part of Houston, which is fairly close to it, everyone knows what that means. For some reason it tends to attract Texas Aggies, both future and graduates, so you get that blend in as well.

My mother-in-law used to love their Christmas pageant every year. They have live camels, because of course they do. I went once, saw that huge church, and refused to go back. Pissed her off to no end but I did that a lot.

That reminds me of the Christmas pageants that Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral would have every year and of course there were the special guest stars like Jim Nabors, George Kennedy, Tony Orlando and The Osmonds who would add “star power” in those way over the top presentations. But then the Schuller Pulpit Pimping enterprise collapsed and they Crystal Cathedral was sold to the Catholic diocese.

As for Old Fart Schuller he just railed that he was cheated out of his pension and I remember all the elderly ladies that he bilked out of their Social Security checks. So nice to see that Pulpit Pimp get the Karmic revenge he so richly deserved!

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retired cynic  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:21:29pm

re: #75 Joe Bacon 🌹

That reminds me of the Christmas pageants that Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral would have every year and of course there were the special guest stars like Jim Nabors, George Kennedy, Tony Orlando and The Osmonds who would add “star power” in those way over the top presentations. But then the Schuller Pulpit Pimping enterprise collapsed and they Crystal Cathedral was sold to the Catholic diocese.

As for Old Fart Schuller he just railed that he was cheated out of his pension and I remember all the elderly ladies that he bilked out of their Social Security checks. So nice to see that Pulpit Pimp get the Karmic revenge he so richly deserved!

My MIL loved the Crystal Cathedral. However, she was far too tight to send him any money. Heh.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:21:39pm
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petesh  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:22:14pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

“Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.”

Hmmm. Sounds good, but I have known some very jovial, very stupid people, who’d never deliberately hurt anyone but occasionally failed to understand the situation.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:28:13pm

re: #73 Interesting Times

“Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.”

My corollary to this is that, at some point, ignorance becomes functionally equivalent to stupidity.

Put your precept and mine together, and we begin to understand how we’re in the shithouse we’re in.

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majii  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:30:44pm

re: #55 MsJ

“Of course he did. How else can he ask for cash?”

THIS, and of course, as payback for her decision to resign, which he and his father-in-law probably see as a rejection of them. Even though she didn’t say it, I hope it played a major role in her decision.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:35:11pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Worst “Where’s Waldo?” Edition Ever.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:36:57pm

Here’s a thread for anyone who’d like to cut some onions.

*runs to get tissues*

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mmmirele  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:45:17pm

re: #23 BlueGrl21

When someone tells you their church is Second you don’t have to ask them much else. It is always referred to as Second….in my part of Houston, which is fairly close to it, everyone knows what that means. For some reason it tends to attract Texas Aggies, both future and graduates, so you get that blend in as well.

My mother-in-law used to love their Christmas pageant every year. They have live camels, because of course they do. I went once, saw that huge church, and refused to go back. Pissed her off to no end but I did that a lot.

When I lived in Houston last (late 1980s) I called it “the monstrosity on Woodway.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:54:12pm

Mr TariffsGonnaHappen apparently is having second thoughts. Maybe the Koch announcement penetrated his thick skull?

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:57:19pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

Trump had dinner tonight with Hamm, who is one of the go-to guys among billionaires-who-fund-Republicans. Perhaps Hamm had a talk with the Don about how the world really works?

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:59:01pm

Jared “No Security Clearance” Kushner should be in jail, not out loose where he can damage relations with our neighbors.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2018 • 8:59:07pm

re: #85 freetoken

Trump had dinner tonight with Hamm, who is one of the go-to guys among billionaires-who-fund-Republicans. Perhaps Hamm had a talk with the Don about how the Hamm’s world really works?

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:06:20pm

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

[…]

In December, a 16-year-old sophomore at Bret Harte High School, Grayson Mobley, said he should have the right to discuss God and creationism in science class.

Backed by his parents and scores of supporters from local churches, Mobley asked the school board to change its policy that prohibits discussion of religion in science classes. His lawyer, Greg Glaser, said the family would sue if the board does not allow freedom of expression in class.

[…]

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:15:51pm

re: #88 freetoken

Bret is free to go to a private religious school.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:18:10pm

It’s possible that the times, or maybe just time, is getting to me. I was out on the deck just now enjoying a starry boondocks night after mucho rain, and I heard this distant, tedious engine sound, maybe two or three miles away. This is natural gas drilling country, ruining the landscape and the water table and the gods know what else. And I actually spoke aloud to myself and said, “It’s a freakin fuckin frackin rig.”

It’s possible that I’ve been working too hard to help Puerto Rico lately. There’s just so much Bacardi one man can drink. I need some lizards to help me out.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:18:16pm

re: #88 freetoken

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

I demand we teach all religions’ creation theories in science class, every goddamn one.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:19:24pm

re: #91 Single-handed sailor

Even the one I just made up about 15 minutes ago. Equal time!

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:20:21pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:24:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:28:11pm

re: #88 freetoken

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

Well, now we have a plot for God’s Not Dead 4.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:29:47pm

It’s always polite to cc a copy to the people in the photo


oops I left out Ivanka hiding in the back
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:30:31pm

Wow, I just found out my old guidance counselor died today, two months before going to trial on dozens of sex assault charges.

I was alone with this guy in his office a number of times, thank god he never tried anything with me.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:40:41pm

Greetings from beautiful Jackson, Wyoming. It’s been five years since I’ve skied Jackson Hole, I am quite excite. I get to ride one of the greatest ski lifts in the United States, the Jackson Hole aerial tram. I brought my avalanche beacon, shovel, probe, and backpack on the off-chance a cool cat will show me some stuff out of bounds.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:41:05pm

re: #88 freetoken

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

Bret Harte probably could have written a pretty funny story about this damn foolishness.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:52:41pm

re: #50 meteor

Isn’t Texas already in America?

Mebbe. Mebbe not.

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Kragar  Mar 7, 2018 • 9:55:41pm
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mmmirele  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:02:16pm

re: #88 freetoken

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

Uh, how about “no, goddamnit”? The Supreme Court is clear in Edwards v. Aguillard (1987) that creationism isn’t science but religious dogma and cannot be taught int he public schools. And “intelligent design” was given the smackdown in the Dover case from 2005 (yeah, it was only a federal district court, but it’s the only case on point).

Seriously, if these people want to teach religious dogma, there’s the home school for you. This is proselytising in the public schools. I’m tired of this bullshit.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:02:36pm

re: #88 freetoken

Parents and students seem to forget that a classroom is not a democracy, and the students do not have the ability to run the show. The kid can talk about religion all he likes at school, but if his commentary interferes with the teacher’s plans for the lesson or teaching unit, the teacher has the right to shut him down. This is called classroom discipline. If we now add separation of church and state, and science vs. creationism, to the mix, now the teacher has the additional judicial and legal backing to tell the kid to sit down and not interrupt class.

On the other hand, the teacher might, if the administration has his or her back, turn the student’s desires to proselytize and devote one class to a debate between scientific explanations vs religious explanations for creation or the origin or life or whatever. I would make it a requirement that the students supporting the religious explanations discuss at least one other creation myth besides Genesis. Otherwise, the teacher might be accused of favoring one religion over another. Specifically, if I were the teacher, I’d tell the student complainant in question that he has to discuss both Genesis and (for example) the Hindu story of Creation, or the Mayan story of Creation, and that he would be graded on his ability to explain both myths fairly and completely.

IOW, a teacher could turn the tables on this student yokel and make him have to work hard to gain his moment on the stage.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:04:07pm

And now I must teach young minds about the intricacies of the English language.

Wish me luck.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:12:18pm

re: #104 wheat-dogg

And now I must teach young minds about the intricacies of the English language.

Wish me luck.

Try out “freakin fuckin frackin rig” on them for me.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:22:15pm

re: #88 freetoken

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

In December, a 16-year-old sophomore at Bret Harte High School, Grayson Mobley, said he should have the right to discuss God and creationism in science class.

What, you mean he doesn’t get to discuss his personal lord and savior in computer lab? Or alien rapists and murderers in Spanish class? Or, in algebra, how his and his little sister’s wee-wees look different? Or the End Times in American History? (OK, that last one might be a little more relevant than the others.)

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:22:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:25:00pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:31:43pm

He read the fucking thing so we don’t have to.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:33:04pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

See, in a less goat rodeo administration the Press Secretary would be able to pull off a proper bunshin rather than just disappear with a smokebomb.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:34:50pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

He read the fucking thing so we don’t have to.

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This woman writes so poorly that she needs not one but two hacks to help her out?

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:35:16pm

re: #107 freetoken

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Video

Kongo class battlecruisers and a Mogami class heavy cruiser. They all got sunk.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:35:24pm

re: #111 whitebeach

Hacks are like flying buttresses.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:36:20pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:36:26pm

re: #111 whitebeach

This woman writes so poorly that she needs not one but two hacks to help her out?

AND a foreword by Mike Huckabee.

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:46:02pm

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teleskiguy  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:46:25pm
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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:51:36pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

AND a foreword by Mike Huckabee.

Aw, man! Add some chicken-fried dog and it just don’t get any better.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2018 • 10:55:32pm

re: #110 The Ghost of a Flea

See, in a less goat rodeo administration the Press Secretary would be able to pull off a proper bunshin rather than just disappear with a smokebomb.

No, really, don’t! One SHS is more than enough.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:05:36pm

re: #96 gocart mozart

It’s always polite to cc a copy to the people in the photo

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oops I left out Ivanka hiding in the back

I don’t think that is a real photo.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:23:32pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think that is a real photo.

Really? Why? Both of them took money to fuck him. Perfectly reasonable photo of similar pigs in a poke. Except for the kid. I truly feel bad for the kid.

No one deserves that family dynamic, especially when it’s all being vomited out on the world stage. If Drumpf even had a *semblance* of love for that child, he would remove himself from office just to save the boy from what is coming.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:29:48pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

It’s not. It’s the joke.

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Lani  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:33:04pm

re: #121 austin_blue

Really? Why? Both of them took money to fuck him. Perfectly reasonable photo of similar pigs in a poke. Except for the kid. I truly feel bad for the kid.

No one deserves that family dynamic, especially when it’s all being vomited out on the world stage. If Drumpf even had a *semblance* of love for that child, he would remove himself from office just to save the boy from what is coming.

Barron was born in ‘06, a baby when Stormy and Trump had their relationship (or whatever it’s called). The photo looks like a cut & paste job to me.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:40:21pm

re: #123 Lani

Yup. It is very much a photoshop and it’s a joke not even intending to be a good ‘shop, which it’s not.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:42:28pm

Funny!! I encounter these types of comments a lot on big recipe sites. Drives me nuts.

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austin_blue  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:46:51pm

re: #123 Lani

Barron was born in ‘06, a baby when Stormy and Trump had their relationship (or whatever it’s called). The photo looks like a cut & paste job to me.

irony doesn’t come across cleanly in a blog post,

Sigh.

Of course it’s a bad photoshop.

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dell*nix  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:55:30pm

re: #86 jaunte

I have not read further yet, but there is something about that picture that is so, so wrong. Have I been watching too much hentai lately?

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:55:37pm
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LastYearsMan  Mar 7, 2018 • 11:58:54pm

re: #66 whitebeach

As far as I know, there’s not a single mention of camels in the New Testament,

There was Jesus’ famous line about it being harder for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. That’s the only camel reference I can recall

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:10:01am
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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:16:13am

re: #129 LastYearsMan

There was Jesus’ famous line about it being harder for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. That’s the only camel reference I can recall

Not in the old. Leviticus 11.4 and Deuteronomy 14.6 say that camels are traif. Cud chewers, but the hoofs are not split all the way down.

Oh, and bats are birds. Oh, and lobsters are right out. And cheeseburgers.

Keeping kosher is a tough thing. But like the Rabbi said to the Catholic priest “Sex is better than bacon.”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:19:46am

Mueller’s team should really look into this.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:23:57am

re: #130 teleskiguy

I might ski Corbet’s Couloir later today or Friday!

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:31:48am

re: #133 teleskiguy

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I might ski Corbet’s Couloir later today or Friday!

Wait, with what kind of binders? Not Telemarks!

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:34:28am

I had a tooth extraction today. The dentist had about every tool in his office in my mouth by the time he was done. I feel like SEAL Team 6 had a firefight in my mouth. I’m waiting and watching the clock until I can take some more codeine, (your body processes 50% of the codeine into morphine.) so I’m singing to Sister Morphine.

Marianne Faithfull - Sister Morphine (HQ)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:34:53am

re: #129 LastYearsMan

There was Jesus’ famous line about it being harder for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven. That’s the only camel reference I can recall

and that is obviously a parable about the need to cut taxes for job creators

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:38:03am

re: #135 Single-handed sailor

I had a tooth extraction today. The dentist had about every tool in his office in my mouth by the time he was done. I feel like SEAL Team 6 had a firefight in my mouth. I’m waiting and watching the clock until I can take some more codeine, (your body processes 50% of the codeine into morphine.) so I’m singing to Sister Morphine.

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Dump the opioids unless you’ve got a lot of dried fruit in the house. Stick to whiskey.

Been there (well, high-G ass repair), bought the tee-shirt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:38:42am

More trouble for Alex Jones … as in another lawsuit.

hollywoodreporter.com

Matt Furie, the creator of the Pepe the Frog cartoon character who is trying to shut down the Nazis using it, is suing InfoWars for copyright infringement for using his character.

The case will be heard in Federal court:

The lawsuit pinpoints one poster in particular as a source of copyright infringement. The poster features Pepe alongside InfoWars founder Alex Jones, President Donald Trump, Milo Yiannopoulos, Ann Coulter, Matt Drudge, Roger Stone and others with the text “MAGA,” short for Trump’s campaign slogan, “Make America Great Again.”

Furie, represented by attorney Rebecca Girolamo at Wilmer Cutler, says he didn’t authorize such use of Pepe. He alleges the poster is being sold by InfoWars in its online store.

Here’s the full complaint. (this is a link in the original article at Hollywood Reporter)

Should InfoWars attempt to argue fair use, the case could become provocative. Copyright law isn’t supposed to make value judgments. (See for example the time that Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” triggered a lawsuit.) But then again, the purpose and character of use as well as the effect of the use on the potential market are two of the four factors comprising a potential fair use.

In this case, Furie says he has licensed intellectual property rights for card games and stuffed dolls. Further exploration of the impact of political co-opting could be forthcoming. The lawsuit also notes that Donald Trump Jr. posted an image of Pepe in a modified version of a movie poster for the film “The Expendables” labeled “The Deplorables.”

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:39:04am

re: #134 austin_blue

Damn right with the freeheel clamps!

Speaking of which, an initial observation upon arrival to Jackson Hole.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:40:35am

re: #137 austin_blue

Dump the opioids unless you’ve got a lot of dried fruit in the house. Stick to whiskey.

Been there (well, high-G ass repair), bought the tee-shirt.

I’ll only need them for 24 hrs at most.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:41:12am

re: #139 teleskiguy

Damn right with the freeheel clamps!

Speaking of which, an initial observation upon arrival to Jackson Hole.

I hope you’re enjoying your ski trip in Wyoming (waving at you from your east… .)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:42:13am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

Should InfoWars attempt to argue fair use, the case could become provocative. Copyright law isn’t supposed to make value judgments. (See for example the time that Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” triggered a lawsuit.) But then again, the purpose and character of use as well as the effect of the use on the potential market are two of the four factors comprising a potential fair use.

That had to do with the fact that the German State of Bavaria owned the copyright to Mein Kampf and was not about to allow it to be published in any form, even an annotated
historical version.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:50:59am

re: #140 Single-handed sailor

I’ll only need them for 24 hrs at most.

Trust me, get some dried apricots and a quart of apple juice. Your alimentary canal will thank you. Opioids will turn your gut into a non-functioning tube.

You’ll be a math teacher. You’ll have to work it out with a pencil.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:51:07am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That had to do with the fact that the German State of Bavaria owned the copyright to Mein Kampf and was not about to allow it to be published in any form, even an annotated historical version.

Well, German law is a bit different than American law, but the principle remains: The copyright holder gets to determine how the work is used (satire and parody excepted).

In Mr. Furie’s case, he has only licensed his creation twice (for a game and for a plushie).

The way Jones, Trump Jr., and others have used his character were not parody or satire, and the allegation is Jones is selling posters of his character without a license.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:54:38am

re: #139 teleskiguy

Damn right with the freeheel clamps!

Speaking of which, an initial observation upon arrival to Jackson Hole.

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Been an odd year hasn’t it? Major snow dump in the North Rockies, dead as a boot in the south. Weather. Makes you rich some years, and kills you in others. And it’s getting weirder.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:54:58am

re: #143 austin_blue

Trust me, get some dried apricots and a quart of apple juice. Your alimentary canal will thank you. Opioids will turn your gut into a non-functioning tube.

You’ll be a math teacher. You’ll have to work it out with a pencil.

Joke is on mister C., I didn’t bother to eat today. It’s gonna have a hard time clumping up the 4 beers I drank.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:56:47am

re: #145 austin_blue

Been an odd year hasn’t it? Major snow dump in the North Rockies, dead as a boot in the south. Weather. Makes you rich some years, and kills you in others. And it’s getting weirder.

Don’t get me started.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:58:28am

A jack-of-all-trades hippy redneck that has worked at the ski area I work at for 28 years told me this is the worst winter for snowfall he’s ever seen.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:02:59am

re: #147 teleskiguy

Don’t get me started.

Hey, we’re all watching this shit show and shaking our heads. These are real businesses across the west, with real jobs at stake.

As the Talking Heads sang,

This ain’t no party
This ain’t no disco
This ain’t no fooling around

This is real economic impact. And the EPA is checking out on that impact by removing data from their website. It’s just evil.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:07:01am

Britain now says the Russian spy, his daughter, and the police officer who are in hospital were poisoned by a nerve agent. They are looking for the source of the nerve agent.

bbc.com

Counter-terrorism officers are working to uncover the origin of the nerve agent used in the attempted murder of ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, in Salisbury.

The pair were found unconscious and are critically ill in hospital, along with a police officer who went to their aid.

A source told BBC News the chemical used on Sunday was likely to be rarer than Sarin or VX nerve agents.

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The Home Secretary is expected to make a statement on the developments.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:07:03am

re: #143 austin_blue

Trust me, get some dried apricots and a quart of apple juice. Your alimentary canal will thank you. Opioids will turn your gut into a non-functioning tube.

You’ll be a math teacher. You’ll have to work it out with a pencil.

Yes, I once had a great week on pain killers for a slipped disc until the constipation set in.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:10:41am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹

Britain now says the Russian spy, his daughter, and the police officer who are in hospital were poisoned by a nerve agent. They are looking for the source of the nerve agent.

bbc.com

(more)

The Home Secretary is expected to make a statement on the developments.

Sarin, most likely, but the fact that they are still alive says maybe something new.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:12:12am

re: #152 austin_blue

Sarin.

one of the bad buys from Lord of the Rings?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:16:41am

re: #152 austin_blue

Sarin, most likely, but the fact that they are still alive says maybe something new.

The article says the military is not releasing the information on what agent was used, but the author speculates it was not Sarin or VX.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:23:05am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

one of the bad buys from Lord of the Rings?

THE bad guy from TLOTR.

I remember when we were flying in Germany, we were trained on a Sarin gas attack during an emergency launch against the godless commies. We had atropine pens, which would could keep us alive, but would pretty much incapacitate us, as it did nothing for the muscular rigor. So we would be immobilized as we watched our planes pound into the ground because no one was able to fly it.

Good times.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:26:24am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

The article says the military is not releasing the information on what agent was used, but the author speculates it was not Sarin or VX.

That is really not at all good, if true.

New nerve agents make everybody molto nervosa.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:28:45am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

The article says the military is not releasing the information on what agent was used, but the author speculates it was not Sarin or VX.

I was thinking maybe one of their “Novichok” nerve agents…..but they’d most likely be quite dead; allegedly eight times more powerful than VX.

Maybe something new that’s been cooked up.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:32:47am

And good night all.

I’d love to stay up for another few hours to see the Tweet Storm we all know is coming, but my honey-do list while She Who Must Be Obeyed is in Arkysaw gigging takes priority so that I won’t get my white candy ass kicked on her return.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2018 • 3:10:22am

re: #85 freetoken

Trump had dinner tonight with Hamm, who is one of the go-to guys among billionaires-who-fund-Republicans. Perhaps Hamm had a talk with the Don about how the world really works?

So you’re saying that Hamm sliced, diced and fricasseed the Yam to get us out of the pickle that sap was about to put is in? Sweet!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 3:28:45am

re: #159 MsJ

So you’re saying that Hamm sliced, diced and fricasseed the Yam to get us out of the pickle that sap was about to put is in? Sweet!

Hamm and Yam and Spam a lot?

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jeffreyw  Mar 8, 2018 • 4:35:55am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:09:38am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:16:26am

F&F accidentally lets a truth bomb out

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:19:29am
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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:21:22am

Mornin’ everyone. Trump’s mad at his trailer trash spokesperson. I’ll bet his White House rants are especially colorful today.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:22:28am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:25:09am

re: #165 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. Trump’s mad at his trailer trash spokesperson. I’ll bet his White House rants are especially colorful today.

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SHS has really done her job well, defending that A-Hole is a near impossible job. She has lied to the press, given non-answers, has made the American populace dumber and meaner. But that is the job she was given, she has done it well. I loathe her and everything she stands for though.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:30:41am

re: #167 bill d. (b.d.)

SHS has really done her job well, defending that A-Hole is a near impossible job. She has lied to the press, given non-answers, has made the American populace dumber and meaner. But that is the job she was given, she has done it well. I loathe her and everything she stands for though.

I give her till the end of the month before she either quits or Trump sacks her.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:33:57am

re: #168 wheat-dogg

I give her till the end of the month before she either quits or Trump sacks her.

Where else is she going to make $150K with her personality and skills? She’s not going anywhere.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:35:57am

re: #168 wheat-dogg

I give her till the end of the month before she either quits or Trump sacks her.

Yep, women tend to last longer around him though. He really can’t do better than her though imo. Nobody lies like the devil or a preacher’s kid.

//

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:38:10am

This is quite a thread (thirteen tweets):

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:40:53am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:41:22am

re: #169 darthstar

Where else is she going to make $150K with her personality and skills? She’s not going anywhere.

She could have her own religion show. She could be like a female Gene Scott, stay in a chair smoking cigars and bitching at her people to call in and give her money.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:41:40am

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

This is quite a thread (thirteen tweets):

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Saw that yesterday. Tragic.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:41:57am

I love the look on this little girl’s face once she attracts an audience.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:46:24am
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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:47:23am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:48:34am

re: #177 darthstar

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Lupin  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:49:30am

From THE GUARDIAN:

“Ministers are under pressure over plans to ditch European human rights laws after Brexit following a grave warning that it could impact future trade deals.”

Read: Saudi Arabia. Hypothetical 65 billion investment.

Next: British wives for sale.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:49:56am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:52:05am

re: #180 darthstar

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Ha! I always found it pretty pathetic that Shapiro and those like him make their bones going to college campuses belittling people 15-18 years younger than them.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:53:02am

re: #167 bill d. (b.d.)

SHS has really done her job well, defending that A-Hole is a near impossible job. She has lied to the press, given non-answers, has made the American populace dumber and meaner. But that is the job she was given, she has done it well. I loathe her and everything she stands for though.

And the press corps has enabled her every step of the way
No push back
No followups
No calling out lies as lies
No critical reporting

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:53:13am

re: #180 darthstar

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Bari Weiss is on MSNBC right now.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:54:53am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Ha! I always found it pretty pathetic that Shapiro and those like him make their bones going to college campuses belittling people 15-18 years younger than them.

AND ANOTHER THING I HATE ABOUT THESE BRAINWASHING INSTITUTIONS! THEY SAY YOU GET LAID A LOT IN COLLEGE! NEVER HAPPENED TO ME!

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:56:11am

re: #183 Barefoot Grin

Bari Weiss is on MSNBC right now.

Ooh…can’t get enough of your love, baby…wait…I thought his last name was White.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:57:02am

To advertise “March for Our Lives,” Sarah Chadwick made a word-for-word parody of an NRA advert.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:59:19am

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

To advertise “March for Our Lives,” Sarah Chadwick made a word-for-word parody of an NRA advert.

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That’s brilliant.

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:59:50am

Actual article headline on the BBC site:

Trump wins order to gag porn actress

Although they didn’t go into any details of how this order was to enforced…..

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:00:16am

re: #184 darthstar

AND ANOTHER THING I HATE ABOUT THESE BRAINWASHING INSTITUTIONS! THEY SAY YOU GET LAID A LOT IN COLLEGE! NEVER HAPPENED TO ME!

Well now you know the real reason why they hate campus lefties. They’re much cooler, happier, and fun people then they’ve ever been.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:03:46am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. We’re digging out here in Northern NJ. We were lucky so far- no trees or branches down, but neighbors have branches and trees down.

With the thawing, I’m expecting more trees/branches to come down. We got about 9 inches total here, but it’s the wet concrete variety of snow. Just a few miles west, they got 18-24 inches.

It’s interesting listening to local officials around here demanding that the local utility company chiefs resign over the slow pace of power restoration from last week’s storm.

Puerto Rico is enduring the worst blackout in the nation’s history and it’s going on 6 months in some places. Know who should be resigning over that?

Donald J Trump.

His depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans in Puerto Rico shows he doesn’t give a crap about his oath or his obligation. He’s more concerned about making a buck off using the presidential seals on his golf resort logos and gift shop trinkets.

Congress wont lift a finger so long as the GOP remains entrenched there. Midterms are a few months away, but that’d be the first real opportunity to roll back Trump and the GOP - they’re indistinguishable at this point.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:04:26am

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Well now you know the real reason why they hate campus lefties. They’re much cooler, happier, and fun people then they’ve ever been.

And we fucked like bunnies…good times.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:06:08am

White House is in confusion over timing and details of tariffs rollout (goes to CNN)

Probably confused about David Koch telling the Republicans that is a really bad idea.

Confusion abounded late Wednesday in the West Wing over President Donald Trump’s impending trade announcement rolling out tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.

White House aides had been told to prepare for a signing ceremony Thursday at 3:30 p.m. ET in the Roosevelt Room, where steel and aluminum workers also are set to attend. But one White House aide said Wednesday night that the event had been canceled — because the policy was not yet finalized.

As of late Wednesday evening, the tariff announcement was not listed on the White House schedule.

(more)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:07:13am

re: #177 darthstar

Well, that settles it…..if you’re Julian Assange, Glenn Greenwald or Fox News.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:12:55am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

Save a few hundred jobs in steel industry while tens of thousands lose theirs and everyone pays more for goods/services.

That’s the Trump plan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:14:03am
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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:16:21am

re: #88 freetoken

America, 2018:

Science-religion debate at Bret Harte High could go to court

Fine, lets put Religion through the scientific method. First will start with a pyre. I will build one out of bricks and ask God to light it on fire.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:19:12am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

White House is in confusion over timing and details of tariffs rollout (goes to CNN)

Probably confused about David Koch telling the Republicans that is a really bad idea.

(more)

[trump] HOW DO I CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT I ENACTED A TARIFF WITHOUT REALLY ENACTING A TARIFF?[/trump]

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:20:16am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:22:00am

re: #197 bill d. (b.d.)

Simple. Trump’s going to declare the tariff is in place, but then not name any countries against which it would apply. Presto!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:23:08am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

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Lol uh no and it’s not like he practices that either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:28:45am

re: #169 darthstar

Where else is she going to make $150K with her personality and skills? She’s not going anywhere.

Hucky Boo Boo will make double that on the Right Wing Jesus Church circuit. All she has to do is go from church to church and give her “testimony” and all that sweet tax-exempt cash will flow into her Swiss bank account!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:29:44am

Not good for the UK Labour Party:

telegraph.co.uk

Jeremy Corbyn was a member of a private Facebook group in which members published dozens of anti-Semitic messages and holocaust denial theories, it emerged yesterday.

Labour last night confirmed it was investigating up to half a dozen party members for their involvement in the group, with Corbyn allies Clive Lewis and Chris Williamson identified as members of the group.

Messages published on Palestine Live include conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family, supposed Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks and links to material produced by neo-Nazi groups.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:31:53am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:34:32am

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:36:03am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Not good for the UK Labour Party:

telegraph.co.uk

Never liked Corbyn that much. Still wtf. Did they think no one would find this?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:36:31am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Not good for the UK Labour Party:

telegraph.co.uk

Reminds me of the problems Harrold Wilson had with Anti-Zionist George Brown…

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:39:55am

re: #194 lawhawk

Save a few hundred jobs in steel industry while tens of thousands lose theirs and everyone pays more for goods/services.

That’s the Trump plan.

I’m pretty sure it’s save one seat in PA, then end it at the wrong time so that it both hurts the economy and steel workers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:40:11am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Never liked Corbyn that much. Still wtf. Did they think no one would find this?

Apparently they didn’t think so.

You put something on-line, it will be found by someone. There are a lot of people who don’t seem to understand that. (The worst thing I ever put up are my non-comments on Disqus at Wonkette.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:43:23am

Alex Jones begging for money. (15:36, NSFW for the Utah Outcasts)

Alex Jones Begs For Money

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:46:10am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:46:30am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

Thoughts and prayers… or tots and pears. Or …. he can go STFU.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:46:36am

re: #165 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. Trump’s mad at his trailer trash spokesperson. I’ll bet his White House rants are especially colorful today.

From Acosta: A source close to White House says Trump is upset with @PressSec Sarah Sanders over her handling of Stormy Daniels questions yesterday. “POTUS is very unhappy,” the source said. “Sarah gave the Stormy Daniels storyline steroids yesterday,” the source added.t]

It does seem not seem to faze Trump in the least that he is expecting one of his staff to gloss over and spin a story about him paying hush money to a porn star…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:47:10am

re: #169 darthstar

Where else is she going to make $150K with her personality and skills? She’s not going anywhere.

Fox and Friends

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:48:11am

re: #88 freetoken

Why are Christianists so intent on pushing their religion in public schools though? Keep that nonsense in your churches and your homes. Everyone isn’t interested in hearing about your god.

No way would they be okay with Muslims talking about their religious beliefs in public schools.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:49:18am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Not good for the UK Labour Party:

telegraph.co.uk

Anti-Semitism and Holocaust Denial is another of those spheres of extreme right and left-wing overlap.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:50:36am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:50:49am

re: #214 Patricia Kayden

Why are Christianists so intent on pushing their religion in public schools though? Keep that nonsense in your churches and your homes. Everyone isn’t interested in hearing about your god.

No way would they be okay with Muslims talking about their religious beliefs in public schools.

Because they don’t really care about religious freedom. They care about theocracy.

This fight has been going on ever since the “Great Awakening” in the XIX Century.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:50:57am

re: #214 Patricia Kayden

Why are Christianists so intent on pushing their religion in public schools though? Keep that nonsense in your churches and your homes. Everyone isn’t interested in hearing about your god.

No way would they be okay with Muslims talking about their religious beliefs in public schools.

You are leaving out another of their Pillars of Belief, namely that America is a Christian Nation, and by that, they mean Fundamentalist Protestant Christian. Other Christians denominations will be tolerated as long as they go along.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:52:23am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are leaving out another of their Pillars of Belief, namely that America is a Christian Nation, and by that, they mean Fundamentalist Protestant Christian. Other Christians denominations will be tolerated as long as they go along.

Until they don’t need those denominations any more. (Catholics first under the bus, but other Protestant denominations to follow.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:53:07am

re: #216 lawhawk

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The tariffs are bad policy but that’s rich coming from a Koch.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:53:33am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:54:10am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

Alex Jones begging for money. (15:36, NSFW for the Utah Outcasts)

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He’s too dependent on Oxytabs to realize that he’d make a mint being “born again” and starting his tax-exempt ministry.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:54:33am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹

Apparently they didn’t think so.

You put something on-line, it will be found by someone. There are a lot of people who don’t seem to understand that. (The worst thing I ever put up are my non-comments on Disqus at Wonkette.)

I’ve honestly never thought too high of Corbyn. I thought Labour made a mistake with him. They need someone to the left of New Labour but more sensible than Corbyn.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:55:01am

re: #214 Patricia Kayden

Why are Christianists so intent on pushing their religion in public schools though? Keep that nonsense in your churches and your homes. Everyone isn’t interested in hearing about your god.

No way would they be okay with Muslims talking about their religious beliefs in public schools.

Marx was right when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:55:10am

re: #219 Anymouse 🌹

Until they don’t need those denominations any more. (Catholics first under the bus, but other Protestant denominations to follow.)

Just like what Reagan did with the Fundamentalist movement that helped sweep him into office just as soon as Nancy’s house astrologer told her that the time was right…

They learned a lot from that burn and started insinuating their people into every aspect of public life, from education to the military to public administration, and now they have a man in place on heartbeat away from the Presidency.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 6:55:41am

re: #214 Patricia Kayden

Why are Christianists so intent on pushing their religion in public schools though? Keep that nonsense in your churches and your homes. Everyone isn’t interested in hearing about your god.

No way would they be okay with Muslims talking about their religious beliefs in public schools.

Their big thing is spreading their religion so public schools are unfortunately a natural step.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:03:55am

re: #224 Joe Bacon 🌹

Marx was right when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses.

The Marx quote is normally taken out of context. Marx actually stated it as a metaphor, not as the way cynical people exploit the masses.

“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people”.

(translated from German)

The metaphor implies that religion is a response to exploitation, not a tool of exploitation.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:05:33am

re: #107 freetoken

Interesting song, thanks for posting it!

Some context from the song comments:

“This song was sang by Japanese soldiers who were sent to RABAUL island in Papua New Guinea during the World War Ⅱ. Japanese army was defeated and withdrew from the island. This is farewell (SAYONARA=SARABA) song from the soldiers to the island and they say we will come back again. The fighting in the island was very sad but this song sang it rather cheerfully.”

Additional info
en.wikipedia.org

One note from the Wiki article:

“As in most Pacific War campaigns, disease and starvation claimed more Japanese lives than enemy action. Most Japanese troops never even came into contact with Allied forces, and were instead simply cut off and subjected to an effective blockade by the US Navy. Garrisons were effectively besieged and denied shipments of food and medical supplies, and as a result, some claim that 97% of Japanese deaths in this campaign were from non-combat causes.”re: #107 freetoken

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:06:21am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹

The Marx quote is normally taken out of context. Marx actually stated it as a metaphor, not as the way cynical people exploit the masses.

(translated from German)

The metaphor implies that religion is a response to exploitation, not a tool of exploitation.

again, we have to distinguish between religion in the sense of spirituality and organized religion, especially in the form of an established Church.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:09:12am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fox and Friends

I don’t think she measures up to the ‘physical requirements,’ if yknowwhatimsayin.

Also, brunette. She’d have to get a Greta color job.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:09:14am

Oh my goodness. Now this is pulling out all the stops to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day!

Wagyu Corned Beef Brisket!

You’ll need a golden knife and fork to slice this!

goldbely.com

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:11:26am

re: #231 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my goodness. Now this is pulling out all the stops to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day!

Wagyu Corned Beef Brisket!

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goldbely.com

Only $1500!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:12:23am

re: #232 makeitstop

Only $1500!

The $1,500 is just for the spices! 😉

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:15:26am

re: #228 ckkatz

Interesting song, thanks for posting it!

Some context from the song comments:

“This song was sang by Japanese soldiers who were sent to RABAUL island in Papua New Guinea during the World War Ⅱ. Japanese army was defeated and withdrew from the island. This is farewell (SAYONARA=SARABA) song from the soldiers to the island and they say we will come back again. The fighting in the island was very sad but this song sang it rather cheerfully.”

Additional info
en.wikipedia.org

One note from the Wiki article:

“As in most Pacific War campaigns, disease and starvation claimed more Japanese lives than enemy action. Most Japanese troops never even came into contact with Allied forces, and were instead simply cut off and subjected to an effective blockade by the US Navy. Garrisons were effectively besieged and denied shipments of food and medical supplies, and as a result, some claim that 97% of Japanese deaths in this campaign were from non-combat causes.”

The “saraba” reference reminding me of this great song sung by Tanimura Shinji the chorus of which ends “saraba, Subaru-yo” (the constellation, not the car).

谷村新司 昴 すばる1991

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:15:27am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

The $1,500 is just for the spices! 😉

We were at some restaurant somewhere, and they had a Waygu skewer as an appetizer.

One one-inch square on a toothpick. 30 bucks. Hard pass, gimme the calamari, thx..

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:15:38am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

The $1,500 is just for the spices! 😉

Put $20 into Guinness’ pocket yesterday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:16:28am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, we have to distinguish between religion in the sense of spirituality and organized religion, especially in the form of an established Church.

Any institution can be used to exploit or oppress people. Churches can as well (and have in the past). That doesn’t mean the institution of a church is exploitative by nature.

Ideologies which do not account for human nature (there are greedy assholes) have a tendency to be exploited (churches, communists, libertarians, the ideology doesn’t really matter).

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:16:41am

re: #232 makeitstop

Only $1500!

Ah so more money than my Irish peasant ancestors would have had.

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Weaselone  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:17:33am

re: #177 darthstar

Wouldn’t this make it worse?re: #231 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my goodness. Now this is pulling out all the stops to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day!

Wagyu Corned Beef Brisket!

[Embedded content]

goldbely.com

That does look pretty delicious though. Almost good enough to eat raw.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:18:07am

re: #235 makeitstop

We were at some restaurant somewhere, and they had a Waygu skewer as an appetizer.

One one-inch square on a toothpick. 30 bucks. Hard pass, gimme the calamari, thx..

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:18:25am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Ah so more money than my Irish peasant ancestors would have had.

Your ancestors didn’t practice conspicuous consumption?

$1,500 for a beef brisket? Here I can get a whole steer for that.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:19:24am

IIRC, corned beef process was designed as a way to preserve and tenderize the crappier parts of a cow.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:20:28am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

IIRC, corned beef process was designed as a way to preserve and tenderize the crappier parts of a cow.

That’s why I finally got a slow cooker.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:21:52am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

IIRC, corned beef process was designed as a way to preserve and tenderize the crappier parts of a cow.

“Honey, why does my sandwich look like it has a hoof in it?”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:22:58am

re: #243 Barefoot Grin

That’s why I finally got a slow cooker.

Wife is doing corned beef in one of the new slow pressure cooker combos this year. My cabbage will be just about on time for harvest.

Mmmmm colcannon.
en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:24:03am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Wife is doing corned beef in one of the new slow pressure cooker combos this year. My cabbage will be just about on time for harvest.

Mmmmm colcannon.
en.wikipedia.org

We’ll likely have keilbasa and sauerkraut for St. Patrick’s Day. Something something extremely eastern Ireland.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:24:12am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Wife is doing corned beef in one of the new slow pressure cooker combos this year. My cabbage will be just about on time for harvest.

Mmmmm colcannon.
en.wikipedia.org

I noticed the corned beef out now at the super market. I may have to try it. We’re under a foot of snow, so probably no local cabbage, though.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:24:37am

We’re pretty excited to go and see Elvis Costello & The Imposters at the Capitol Theater tomorrow night!

This song is pretty relevant nowadays, I’m hoping it makes it into the set.

American Gangster Time

What you got hidden up your sleeve?
The tracks of the train that were bidding you to leave
When they say that you should flatter to deceive
Don’t count on any reprieve

The hands of the helpless are raised
Your dead little secrets are praised
The people stand dumbstruck and dazed
By the inches that you have erased

It’s a drag
Saluting that starry rag
I’d rather go blind
For speaking my mind
Or use it just like a gag
So raise it in anger
Just let it hang
American Gangster Time

Committing the perfect crime
In American Gangster Time

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:24:47am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

IIRC, corned beef process was designed as a way to preserve and tenderize the crappier parts of a cow.

German Sauerbraten is the same principle: soak it in vinegar for several days to soften it up

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:25:45am

re: #240 Targetpractice

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Yeah, pretty much my reaction.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:26:44am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹

We’ll likely have keilbasa and sauerkraut for St. Patrick’s Day. Something something extremely eastern Ireland.

The Keilbasa Line was across the street from our Pittsburgh Irish turf. My Irish cousin went to was forcibly moved to a Polish Catholic HS across the Monongahela, where she had to learn Polish.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:27:35am

(Full disclosure: The $1500 price tag was purely a guess, but probably not too far off.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:27:47am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹

We’ll likely have keilbasa and sauerkraut for St. Patrick’s Day. Something something extremely eastern Ireland.

Probably more common now in Ireland since there’s a lot of Eastern European immigrants in Dublin.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:28:31am

re: #251 Decatur Deb

The Keilbasa Line was across the street from our Pittsburgh Irish turf. My Irish cousin went to was forcibly moved to a Polish Catholic HS across the Monongahela, where she had to learn Polish.

Dad’s half Irish married my kolbasi, pirohy raised half Rusyn Slovak mom. But Dad’s other half is German so the kraut wasn’t a big deal.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:29:14am

Who took Winter from us? 23F now with a high of 62F. Gradual cooling throughout the week but still quite warm and no precipitation.

forecast.weather.gov

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:29:52am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

IIRC, corned beef process was designed as a way to preserve and tenderize the crappier parts of a cow.

corned beef at wikipedia
It was developed for all cuts but the better ones tended to be consumed fresh, leaving the lesser cuts for the salting process. Telling quote from the article:

Much of the undesirable portions and lower grades were traded to the French, while better parts were saved for British consumption or shipped to British colonies.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:31:02am

Dropkick Murphys Saturday night woot.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:31:36am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

… so the kraut wasn’t a big deal.

That’s what General Sikorski said.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:32:01am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:32:13am

re: #251 Decatur Deb

The Keilbasa Line was across the street from our Pittsburgh Irish turf. My Irish cousin went to was forcibly moved to a Polish Catholic HS across the Monongahela, where she had to learn Polish.

My mother lives in a section of Chicago where the line is between the Polish neighbourhood (where she lives) and the Korean neighbourhood (one block away).

One of the best Polish restaurants in Chicago is right behind her apartment house on Milwaukee Ave.

(Shameless plug: redapple.restaurant )

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:32:20am

re: #258 Decatur Deb

That’s what General Sikorski said.

Da.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:32:38am

BTW, I’m glad everyone’s trying to figure out my anniversary meal (St. Patty’s Day). It’s got me wondering where I’ll be taking the Mrs….

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:33:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:34:06am

re: #262 lawhawk

BTW, I’m glad everyone’s trying to figure out my anniversary meal (St. Patty’s Day). It’s got me wondering where I’ll be taking the Mrs….

Chinese buffet?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:34:45am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹

Chinese buffet?

That’s for Christmas, silly.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:35:03am

re: #262 lawhawk

BTW, I’m glad everyone’s trying to figure out my anniversary meal (St. Patty’s Day). It’s got me wondering where I’ll be taking the Mrs….

Not to be that guy LH but it’s Paddy’s :). Happy Anniversary to you and the Mrs though which is the real reason why I said this. Have there been any foods you both have been wanting to try? Tapas are always nice for a celebratory meal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:36:02am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Not to be that guy LH but it’s Paddy’s :). Happy Anniversary to you and the Mrs though which is the real reason why I said this. Have there been any foods you both have been wanting to try? Tapas are always nice for a celebratory meal.

I will be taking a shipload of Norwegians up the Rhine that afternoon, no plans for the evening, but I have no plans for this year…very long and tedious story about that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:36:38am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will be taking a shipload of Norwegians up the Rhine that afternoon, no plans for the evening, but I have no plans for this year…very long and tedious story about that.

I’m probably just going to have corned beef and cabbage that night but I’m going to a show Saturday so it’s a wash.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:37:18am

Eastern European food is good comfort food though: Pirohy, kolbasi, potato pancakes, halushki, potica, etc.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:37:24am

Or maybe we’ll just do Cabbage Rolls and Coffee….

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:38:17am

So the germaphobe went to a club in Vegas that featured an act with naked women simulating urination. Hmmmm….

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:38:18am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

I knew pedant LGF was always out there and waiting to strike….

Not sure what the Mrs. is craving. We’ve got a bunch of really good restaurants we’d want to check out (plus a few old favorites). There’s a really good french restaurant in Ridgewood NJ. Or we could drive out to Denville NJ to what’s considered the best Chinese restaurant in NJ.

Oh, and there are good Spanish/tapas places we might think of in Ironbound section of Newark.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:39:06am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Eastern European food is good comfort food though: Pirohy, kolbasi, potato pancakes, halushki, potica, etc.

that is the comfort food I was raised on until my sister taught me how to make mexican

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:39:18am

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

The teetotaler also owned a liquor brand and runs wineries.

He’s also been spotted drinking from time to time as well.

All he does is lie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:39:46am

re: #270 Barefoot Grin

Or maybe we’ll just do Cabbage Rolls and Coffee….

I suppose that’s better than coffee rolls and cabbage.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:41:32am

re: #272 lawhawk

I knew pedant LGF was always out there and waiting to strike….

Not sure what the Mrs. is craving. We’ve got a bunch of really good restaurants we’d want to check out (plus a few old favorites). There’s a really good french restaurant in Ridgewood NJ. Or we could drive out to Denville NJ to what’s considered the best Chinese restaurant in NJ.

Oh, and there are good Spanish/tapas places we might think of in Ironbound section of Newark.

Gotta be that quarter Irish guy :). I’m sure you’ll find a great place. French sounds good. I really haven’t experienced French food that often.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:41:45am

re: #272 lawhawk

I knew pedant LGF was always out there and waiting to strike….

Not sure what the Mrs. is craving. We’ve got a bunch of really good restaurants we’d want to check out (plus a few old favorites). There’s a really good french restaurant in Ridgewood NJ. Or we could drive out to Denville NJ to what’s considered the best Chinese restaurant in NJ.

Oh, and there are good Spanish/tapas places we might think of in Ironbound section of Newark.

One of my old installations, the Army explosives R&D center, broke a lot of windows in Denville over the years.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:41:55am

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

So the germaphobe went to a club in Vegas that featured an act with naked women simulating urination. Hmmmm….

Good job, Evangelicals.

No wonder the real Evangelical politician, Jimmy Carter, wants nothing more to do with you.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:42:15am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is the comfort food I was raised on until my sister taught me how to make mexican

I love Mexican too but I’m going to get it from an Abuelita not try it myself.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:42:51am

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

So the germaphobe went to a club in Vegas that featured an act with naked women simulating urination. Hmmmm….

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Mulligan. //

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:44:26am

If we go out for St. Patrick’s Day, we’ll probably go to a Mexican restaurant, either in the county seat or Scottsbluff.

We don’t have taco trucks, so that’s the best we can do.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:45:30am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

We’re two Jewish kids who got married on St. Patrick’s Day :)

Makes it impossible to forget the anniversary.

I’m up for any cuisine…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:49:03am

re: #282 lawhawk

We’re two Jewish kids who got married on St. Patrick’s Day :)

Makes it impossible to forget the anniversary.

I’m up for any cuisine…

Good deal. I always remember since the day before was my grandfather’s birthday and now four days before is my niece’s.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:49:59am

re: #275 Anymouse 🌹

I suppose that’s better than coffee rolls and cabbage.

A reference to the Schmenge Bros smash polka hit!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:52:06am

re: #131 austin_blue

Not in the old. Leviticus 11.4 and Deuteronomy 14.6 say that camels are traif. Cud chewers, but the hoofs are not split all the way down.

Oh, and bats are birds. Oh, and lobsters are right out. And cheeseburgers.

Keeping kosher is a tough thing. But like the Rabbi said to the Catholic priest “Sex is better than bacon.”

In Canada you can buy a bag of Maple Bacon potato chips that are certified kosher! I didn’t try them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:52:37am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

In Canada you can buy a bag of Maple Bacon potato chips that are certified kosher! I didn’t try them.

They have those here. Not sure if they were kosher or not but they were good.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:54:23am

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

Thanks for posting! I greatly appreciate the curated recomendations.

For me, music from the many Asian cultures has generally been inaccessible. I admit that I lack the cultural and linguistic knowledge to fully appreciate it. Which is a darn shame, as the civilizations, history, and cultures are among the richest in humanity.

Google translate helps a bit. But still has a long way to go.

Now to do a little internet poking on this song. So much beauty in this world, and such limited time to learn and appreciate it.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 7:58:18am

re: #287 ckkatz

Thanks for posting! I greatly appreciate the curated recomendations.

For me, music from the many Asian cultures has generally been inaccessible. I admit that I lack the cultural and linguistic knowledge to fully appreciate it. Which is a darn shame, as the civilizations, history, and cultures are among the richest in humanity.

Google translate helps a bit. But still has a long way to go.

Now to do a little internet poking on this song. So much beauty in this world, and such limited time to learn and appreciate it.

It was a big hit at a time I was living there. I once knew it for karaoke, but need to refresh my memory. Maybe I’ll try a bit of translating later (I’m supposed to be doing some of that now, but it’s a snow day and I’m playing a bit). Here’s something bizarre—kind of “hard-boiled Pooh.”

It’s worth reading the whole thing.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:03:24am

re: #288 Barefoot Grin

It was a big hit at a time I was living there. I once knew it for karaoke, but need to refresh my memory. Maybe I’ll try a bit of translating later (I’m supposed to be doing some of that now, but it’s a snow day and I’m playing a bit). Here’s something bizarre—kind of “hard-boiled Pooh.”

It’s worth reading the whole thing.

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Starts very well. Still got The Tao of Pooh and Winne Ille Pu. on the shelves somewhere.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:08:19am

re: #288 Barefoot Grin

It was a big hit at a time I was living there. I once knew it for karaoke, but need to refresh my memory. Maybe I’ll try a bit of translating later (I’m supposed to be doing some of that now, but it’s a snow day and I’m playing a bit). Here’s something bizarre—kind of “hard-boiled Pooh.”

It’s worth reading the whole thing.

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Dug farther down the thread—brilliant. Going to forward to DebKidNet.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:17:21am

I missed this yesterday.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:19:16am

re: #289 Decatur Deb

Starts very well. Still got The Tao of Pooh and Winne Ille Pu. on the shelves somewhere.

You’ve never lived until you’ve seen Винни Пух (Vinni Puh).

Винни Пух — Все серии подряд [HD]

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:20:17am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Wife is doing corned beef in one of the new slow pressure cooker combos this year. My cabbage will be just about on time for harvest.

Mmmmm colcannon.
en.wikipedia.org

I think you’ll need to follow the link to YouTube to watch, but I like Mary Black’s version.

Mary Black - Colcannon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:23:00am

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:25:06am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:25:52am

re: #293 calochortus

I think you’ll need to follow the link to YouTube to watch, but I like Mary Black’s version.

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Video

Careful—You’ll start the craic a week early.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:26:37am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:27:38am

re: #296 Decatur Deb

Careful—You’ll start the craic a week early.

This is a problem why?

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:28:29am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:31:08am

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

You’ve never lived until you’ve seen Винни Пух (Vinni Puh).

My Cousin Vinnie Pooh

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:33:22am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My Cousin Vinnie Pooh

They show these old Soviet-era versions of Winnie the Pooh on Czech television from time to time, dubbed into Czech of course - it’s on a program called Večerníček (Bedtime Stories). The Czech voice cast sounds pretty much identical to the original Russia voice actors…..a remarkable dubbing job.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:33:51am

Another one bites the dust. The head of the Forest Service, appointed to the position by Sonny Perdue, steps down over sexual assault allegations.

huffingtonpost.com

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plansbandc  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:34:35am

re: #173 bill d. (b.d.)

I’d watch it.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:35:06am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:35:45am

re: #304 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:38:45am

LGF Member’s pets passing make me sad.

Every time.

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:41:00am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:45:46am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:47:50am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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plansbandc  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:48:40am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:50:38am

re: #231 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my goodness. Now this is pulling out all the stops to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day!

Wagyu Corned Beef Brisket!

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goldbely.com

We bought Wagyu corned beef briskets this year at Costco…they weren’t that much. Got ‘em last year. It’s not bad. Going to sous-vide one when we get back from vacation. Will be steaming a big piece of fish on Kauai on the 17th.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:51:34am

re: #288 Barefoot Grin

Here’s something bizarre—kind of “hard-boiled Pooh.”

It’s worth reading the whole thing.

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Well, that was a bit… noir…

Not sure if I am going to ever listen to the Kenny Loggins song “Back to Pooh Corner” in quite the same light. :)

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:54:24am

re: #311 darthstar

Looks like its being listed at $79 for 2.5 pounds.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:55:44am

Federal Court: Funeral Home Has to Bury Transgender Discrimination Six Feet Under (Wonkette)

A Federal court in Michigan has ruled that a funeral home may not fire a transgender staffer under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

They hired the man six years ago. When announcing he was going to transition to female, they fired their worker. The funeral home in the case cited the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the Bible, and the Hobby Lobby Supreme Court decision in its defence.

If the Wingnut Welfare grifters get involved in this (like the Catholic Thomas More Law Center or Matt Staver’s Liberty Council), I suppose they could run this all the way up to the Supreme Court.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 8:58:57am

re: #313 ckkatz

Looks like its being listed at $79 for 2.5 pounds.

That explains why we spent over $250 when we were there and only got some frozen fruit, a couple of shirts, and a bottle of bourbon with the briskets.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:05:33am

Your daily dose of irony.

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Citizen K  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:06:52am

This is just so fucking exhausting and depressing.

Even if we get Congress in November, we’re still going to end up a country that has fully demonized the very concept of immigrants. We’ve become the 90s militia crazies’ utopia at this fucking rate.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:10:38am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:11:50am

re: #317 Citizen K

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This is just so fucking exhausting and depressing.

Even if we get Congress in November, we’re still going to end up a country that has fully demonized the very concept of immigrants. We’ve become the 90s militia crazies’ utopia at this fucking rate.

Fucked up.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:11:56am

re: #316 darthstar

Your daily dose of irony.

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🤣

I’ve seen people print an email, annotate it, scan it, and reply via email. With a signature asking others to not print unnecessarily.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:12:21am

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

The “saraba” reference reminding me of this great song sung by Tanimura Shinji the chorus of which ends “saraba, Subaru-yo” (the constellation, not the car).

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Video

Interesting:

Subaru (Tanimura Shinji’s song)
ja.wikipedia.org

And this may explain the context you mentioned regarding the previous song (From Google Translate)

“it closely resembles ” Kato Hayabus Battle Corps Military Song “”

Which has me thinking about how certain subtexts reappear in new generations.

(And we are seeing a lot of that now, right here. In just this thread we discussed Neo-Confederates and the separation of Religion and Science.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:12:32am

Released on a $5000 dollar bond

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:14:04am

huffingtonpost.com

The GOP-controlled New Hampshire House of Representatives passed by a 2-1 margin protections for transgender people. The bill is headed to the state senate, and the Republican governor has indicated he would sign it if it gets to him.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:15:56am

re: #321 ckkatz

Interesting:

Subaru (Tanimura Shinji’s song)
ja.wikipedia.org

And this may explain the context you mentioned regarding the previous song (From Google Translate)

“it closely resembles ” Kato Hayabus Battle Corps Military Song “”

Which has me thinking about how certain subtexts reappear in new generations.

(And we are seeing a lot of that now, right here. In just this thread we discussed Neo-Confederates and the separation of Religion and Science.)

Cool. Did not know any of this. Thank you! And yes, I think there has been nostalgia for the fallen soldier carried over into Japanese song.

Don’t know about Tanimura, but a significant number of “traditional ballad” (once) performers are actually of Korean descent. Lots of songs about waiting in the port for long-gone fisherman husband/lover, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:16:19am

Further reading on that Michigan funeral home case shows that James Dobson’s Wingnut Welfare organisation is the one supporting the right of the funeral home owner to be a bigot in the court case.

His organisation was the one which pushed Hobby Lobby all the way to the finish line.

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:18:03am

Oh man, I’m getting really nervous about the USD to JPY exchange rate right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:18:52am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Not good for the UK Labour Party:

telegraph.co.uk

Corbyn really needs to go. What a mess British politics is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:19:33am

re: #322 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Released on a $5000 dollar bond

Every one of these ought to tag the NRA and Dana Loesch (at least until the snowflakes block them).

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:22:15am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Not good for the UK Labour Party:

telegraph.co.uk

Expect any less from a guy who coddles the likes of Bashar al-Assad and embraced Milosevic 25 years ago?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:25:18am

re: #325 Anymouse 🌹

Further reading on that Michigan funeral home case shows that James Dobson’s Wingnut Welfare organisation is the one supporting the right of the funeral home owner to be a bigot in the court case.

His organisation was the one which pushed Hobby Lobby all the way to the finish line.

funeral homes have a bigger range of arguments at their disposal to present themselves as participating in a religious rite, certainly more than a cake baker does with a wedding cake.

but if that be the case, then they are then presenting themselves as quasi-religious organizations and opening up a big can of worms, so to speak…

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:27:08am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

funeral homes have a bigger range of arguments at their disposal to present themselves as participating in a religious rite, certainly more than a cake baker does with a wedding cake.

but if that be the case, then they are then presenting themselves as quasi-religious organizations and opening up a big can of worms, so to speak…

In this case, the funeral home is open to every religious faith and is not affiliated with a church (it is a business).

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:27:19am

So, introduced a couple of students to Parks and Recreation. And……..they both said I’m Ron Swanson.

LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:27:22am

re: #329 electrotek

Expect any less from a guy who coddles the likes of Bashar al-Assad and embraced Milosevic 25 years ago?

It all reminds me that “left” and “right” are descriptive terms, not determinative ones.

I regularly argue with a wargaming buddy here in Germany who is one one hand full-on Marxist but at the same time xenophobic and nationalistic and admires Trump.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:28:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:28:44am

re: #331 Anymouse 🌹

In this case, the funeral home is open to every religious faith and is not affiliated with a church (it is a business).

I really think that the counter argument should be that if your religious beliefs are so strong that they force you to discriminate, then you need to close your business and reopen as a non-profit religious organization.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:29:21am
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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:29:58am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:31:26am

re: #326 electrotek

Oh man, I’m getting really nervous about the USD to JPY exchange rate right now.

I’m supposed to go in May. I really hope the dollar doesn’t completely tank against the yen (little-known Bob Seger song—against the yen).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:32:04am

re: #334 darthstar

6. I don’t really fucking care, except where there might be campaign finance law violations, in which case I’d rather focus on Trump’s conspiracy against the US with Russia.

The only spin that Trump supporters can put on it is to compare it to Bill Clinton/Paula Jones/Jennifer Flowers, etc., and just dismiss it as sleazemongering.

Totally ignoring the fact that they impeached Clinton over a consensual BJ

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:32:23am

Ivanka never learns. She seems to be every bit as dense as her father and mother.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:33:44am

re: #336 darthstar

what kind of person finds this entertaining?

this is truly a case of whatever consenting adults do for fun in their spare time, it is only of interest if it is connected to violations of campaign laws or illegal foreign tampering in US elections.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:35:40am

re: #340 Skip Intro

Ivanka never learns. She seems to be every bit as dense as her father and mother.

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She is just a con like her father. All she says is meant for Trump marketing. The Trumps don’t care for anyone but themselves. I don’t think I’ve ever seen more empty people. It’s all about money. There is nothing human about them.

Fake people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:38:47am

re: #338 Barefoot Grin

I’m supposed to go in May. I really hope the dollar doesn’t completely tank against the yen (little-known Bob Seger song—against the yen).

Well, the Canadian money I’m holding is inching up in value against the US dollar.

Unfortunately, most of my massive (LOL) fortune is in US Dollars.

And I figured out why I’m still awake. I forgot my medicine last night. It was sitting out on the counter.

So if I fall asleep at my keyadfvoiahwngfblskn ;lsektnrt please log me out… .

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:39:14am

re: #342 ObserverArt

She is just a con like her father. All she says is meant for Trump marketing. The Trumps don’t care for anyone but themselves. I don’t think I’ve ever seen more empty people. It’s all about money. There is nothing human about them.

Fake people.

He sold himself successfully as the “anti-politician” to enough people who were fed up with politicians and politics as usual. They are willing to let him get away with things that no professional politician could and even praise him for his approach.

And the GOP establishment of career politicians who made a pact with the devil when they nominated him has painted itself into a corner: they have to support him as their President.

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:41:12am

re: #338 Barefoot Grin

I’m supposed to go in May. I really hope the dollar doesn’t completely tank against the yen (little-known Bob Seger song—against the yen).

I’ve already bought two more cars from the Japanese auction recently to flip when they arrive stateside. And I’m also wanting to buy parts from there, not to mention the possibility of a trip by November or December too.

What a shitty time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:42:42am

re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He sold himself successfully as the “anti-politician” to enough people who were fed up with politicians and politics as usual. They are willing to let him get away with things that no professional politician could and even praise him for his approach.

And the GOP establishment of career politicians who made a pact with the devil when they nominated him has painted itself into a corner: they have to support him as their President.

Actually they don’t have to support him.

Like Nixon they could just take it on the chin in the next election (which looks increasingly likely) and retrench their politics.

They support him not because they are afraid of their voters. They support him because they want to support him.

It’s like when Michael Steele found out his party was full of racists at CPAC when CPAC’s own organiser said the mistake in hiring one of their most successful chairs was “he’s black.”

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:49:48am

re: #320 Sea Mexican!

🤣

I’ve seen people print an email, annotate it, scan it, and reply via email. With a signature asking others to not print unnecessarily.

my mom, who is 90 does something like that
she cant get the hang of “forward”
she will print an email, then scan it to our common google drive folder if she wants me to see it

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plansbandc  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:50:15am

It’s astonishing we have a “President” who can’t spell the word paid.

Payed. Really. Jesus.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:50:51am

re: #343 Anymouse 🌹

Well, the Canadian money I’m holding is inching up in value against the US dollar.

Unfortunately, most of my massive (LOL) fortune is in US Dollars.

And I figured out why I’m still awake. I forgot my medicine last night. It was sitting out on the counter.

So if I fall asleep at my keyadfvoiahwngfblskn ;lsektnrt please log me out… .

You’re already almost half way through the day. Just push on through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:52:46am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

Actually they don’t have to support him.

Like Nixon they could just take it on the chin in the next election (which looks increasingly likely) and retrench their politics.

They support him not because they are afraid of their voters. They support him because they want to support him.

It’s like when Michael Steele found out his party was full of racists at CPAC when CPAC’s own organiser said the mistake in hiring one of their most successful chairs was “he’s black.”

They support him because they need that 30% block of knuckle-draggers to ensure a majority. If they turn on Trump, they will lose that and have nothing to build from even after a defeat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:53:14am

re: #348 plansbandc

It’s astonishing we have a “President” who can’t spell the word paid.

Payed. Really. Jesus.

I thought Payed was one of his Saudi financiers?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:53:14am

re: #348 plansbandc

It’s astonishing we have a “President” who can’t spell the word paid.

Payed. Really. Jesus.

grammer eleitist!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:53:23am

re: #345 electrotek

I’ve already bought two more cars from the Japanese auction recently to flip when they arrive stateside. And I’m also wanting to buy parts from there, not to mention the possibility of a trip by November or December too.

What a shitty time.

Yeah, I’m not quite that exposed…. On a related note, last week there was an article saying that our utilities company had achieved significant cost savings and that would likely find it’s way to the customers. Then a couple of days ago…”about those savings—see, we use imported steel and aluminum for our business and if costs go up….”

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:54:29am

Wonkette with the hot-take headline of the day:

Rick Perry Is Stupid

At an international energy industry conference in Houston Wednesday, Rick Perry made a moral case for continuing to burn fossil fuels as much as possible, because it would be terribly selfish of the developed world to deny developing nations the opportunity to play their part in making the planet unlivable for large mammals like Donald Trump. He argued that curbing greenhouse gas emissions is “immoral,” because only the energy sources that made him governor of Texas and a national political figure can possibly lift the world out of poverty. He then spent 10 minutes pushing energetically on a door clearly labeled “Pull.”

“Look those people in the eyes that are starving and tell them, ‘You can’t have electricity,’” he said. “Because as a society we decided fossil fuels were bad. I think that is immoral.”

(more)

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:54:31am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It all reminds me that “left” and “right” are descriptive terms, not determinative ones.

I regularly argue with a wargaming buddy here in Germany who is one one hand full-on Marxist but at the same time xenophobic and nationalistic and admires Trump.

what i would call a moderate
- addresses each issue on it’s own

///////——>

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:55:21am

re: #348 plansbandc

It’s astonishing we have a “President” who can’t spell the word paid.

Payed. Really. Jesus.

A typo or misspelling could happen to anyone. What’s astonishing is that we have a president who is stupid enough to broadcast to the world without using the vast “review-and-fix” staff processes at his disposal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:56:04am

re: #356 Decatur Deb

A typo or misspelling could happen to anyone. What’s astonishing is that we have a president who is stupid enough to broadcast to the world without using the vast “review-and-fix” staff processes at his disposal.

because nobody would dare to even imply that he might be capable of making a mistake

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:56:31am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

Actually they don’t have to support him.

Like Nixon they could just take it on the chin in the next election (which looks increasingly likely) and retrench their politics.

They support him not because they are afraid of their voters. They support him because they want to support him.

It’s like when Michael Steele found out his party was full of racists at CPAC when CPAC’s own organiser said the mistake in hiring one of their most successful chairs was “he’s black.”

They like him so much in Utah they want to name a highway after him. The Dems (are there really Dems in Utah?) say they’re going add an amendment to call the frontage road that runs along side it the Stormy Daniels Rampway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:56:41am

re: #355 dangerman

what i would call a moderate
- addresses each issue on it’s own

///////——>

he holds a view of each subject that is somehow independent of all others, yes.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:57:03am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because nobody would dare to even imply that he might be capable of making a mistake

Then he is properly doomed.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:59:02am
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:59:51am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only spin that Trump supporters can put on it is to compare it to Bill Clinton/Paula Jones/Jennifer Flowers, etc., and just dismiss it as sleazemongering.

Totally ignoring the fact that they impeached Clinton over a consensual BJ

and lewinsky wasnt hushed or suppressed in any way
nor was she paid off - with or without campaign funds

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:04:13am

re: #324 Barefoot Grin

Don’t know about Tanimura, but a significant number of “traditional ballad” (once) performers are actually of Korean descent. Lots of songs about waiting in the port for long-gone fisherman husband/lover, etc.

Interesting! Another thread to check out.

Often ‘outsiders’ can better summarize a culture than the members themselves. In the 1990’s a Romanian friend talked that way about her country’s music and how much of it came from Gypsy’s.

Now you have me thinking about the Scots-Irish songs about fishing. Perhaps the saddest, at least for me, is “Night Falls” by the Browne Sisters on their Castle Dangerous album. It is from the perspective of a woman whose husband goes off to sea and never returns. Unfortunately I cannot find it online right now.

One of the more uplifting boat sinking songs is “The Mary Ellen Carter” by Stan Rogers. (The song is from the 1970’s, the prices are a bit out of date. :) )

Stan Rogers - The Mary Ellen Carter

edited: to fix typos (sea instead of see)

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:04:57am

re: #353 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I’m not quite that exposed…. On a related note, last week there was an article saying that our utilities company had achieved significant cost savings and that would likely find it’s way to the customers. Then a couple of days ago…”about those savings—see, we use imported steel and aluminum for our business and if costs go up….”

Obviously cheeto never thinks things through. And the “pro-business” Republican contingent have no one to blame but themselves for this.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:06:08am

Oh boy. The EU threw down the gauntlet regarding Ireland.

The EU has thrown down an ultimatum to Theresa May in Brexit talks, warning that it will not open discussions about trade or other issues until the Irish border question is solved.

Speaking in Dublin alongside the Irish prime minister Leo Varadkar, European Council president Donald Tusk said talks would be a case of “Ireland first” and that “the risk of destabilising the fragile peace process must be avoided at all costs”.

“We know today that the UK government rejects a customs and regulatory border down the Irish Sea, the EU single market, and the customs union,” the Council president said.

“While we must respect this position, we also expect the UK to propose a specific and realistic solution to avoid a hard border.

“As long as the UK doesn’t present such a solution, it is very difficult to imagine substantive progress in Brexit negotiations.

“If in London someone assume that the negotiations will deal with other issues first before than the Irish issue, my response would be: Ireland first.”

independent.co.uk

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Citizen K  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:06:23am

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹

I approach most Trump administration figures as if they operate on a mixture of idiocy and malignance. Perry might be the only one of the gang who I may attribute almost pure idiocy.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:08:45am

re: #363 ckkatz

The Clancy Brothers with Ewan McColl’s fishing song:

Shoals Of Herring - Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:08:47am

re: #361 Ace-o-aces

Regarding your comment “I feel you are close to a sudden realisation here”:

Never going to happen haha but nice try

— 🔥Cody🔥 (@Cody_Eldridge) March 8, 2018

Nope. Nowhere close to a sudden realisation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:09:25am

Tennessee legislature decides to keep child marriage legal in the state because banning it may somehow interfere with a lawsuit against same-sex marriage.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:09:40am
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:10:31am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They support him because they need that 30% block of knuckle-draggers to ensure a majority. If they turn on Trump, they will lose that and have nothing to build from even after a defeat.

its this
they have no idea how to get off

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:10:58am

re: #365 Dr Lizardo

Oh boy. The EU threw down the gauntlet regarding Ireland.

independent.co.uk

Honestly, the whole mess seems a great deal like the “Repeal and Replace” business has been here in the US: The GOP don’t want to admit that it’s never going to happen, because doing so will send the base into a froth that will see a great many of them voted out of office. But any realistic move to fulfill the promise will doom them electorally as well. So they instead just keep making lipservice to the whole matter while nothing substantive happens, ensuring they can keep running on “making it happen.”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:13:12am

re: #363 ckkatz

Interesting! Another thread to check out.

Often ‘outsiders’ can better summarize a culture than the members themselves. In the 1990’s a Romanian friend talked that way about her country’s music and how much of it came from Gypsy’s.

Now you have me thinking about the Scots-Irish songs about fishing. Perhaps the saddest, at least for me, is “Night Falls” By the Browne Sisters on their Castle Dangerous album. It is from the perspective of a woman whose husband goes off to see and never returns. Unfortunately I cannot find it online right now.

One of the more uplifting boat sinking songs is “The Mary Ellen Carter” by Stan Rogers. (The song is from the 1970’s, the prices are a bit out of date. :) )

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Video

These are new to me. I love the line “with every jar that hit the bar…” I’ll look into Browne Sisters. You hit the nail on the head about outsiders—most Koreans in Japan came voluntarily or by force during the colonial period and stayed. They were citizens during that period, but not after the war, so many have been in Japan for generations, don’t speak Korean, have never been to Korea, but have been denied protections and employment that come with citizenship (though laws have changed in recent years to address some of these issues). That exclusion meant that they’ve made lives in other ways such as entertainers, service entrepreneurs, pachinko parlor operators, etc.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:13:13am

re: #370 lawhawk

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They’re going to “make it happen,” yet they’ve moved faster on tariffs that nobody agrees with than they have on gun control measures that have widespread support. I really wish the press would ask them aloud for a timeline on when Trump’s going to “make it happen,” and when the White House demurs say aloud that all we see is an administration stalling for time in the hopes something bigger comes along to grab the public’s attention.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:16:22am

re: #373 Barefoot Grin

The Clancy Bros at sea again. The Holy Ground is famous as a place frequented by sailors in their off time.

Holy Ground - Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:16:26am

re: #364 electrotek

Obviously cheeto never thinks things through. And the “pro-business” Republican contingent have no one to blame but themselves for this.

the wealthy, ‘fiscally conservative moderates’ traded social justice, the planet, their daughter’s rights, international relations, safe gun policy, the health care of millions and much more for their own tax cut

and i think they’re good with it

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:17:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:17:21am

re: #372 Targetpractice

Honestly, the whole mess seems a great deal like the “Repeal and Replace” business has been here in the US: The GOP don’t want to admit that it’s never going to happen, because doing so will send the base into a froth that will see a great many of them voted out of office. But any realistic move to fulfill the promise will doom them electorally as well. So they instead just keep making lipservice to the whole matter while nothing substantive happens, ensuring they can keep running on “making it happen.”

The main difference is that the UK is up against a very real deadline; March 2019. They’ll crash out of the EU at that point with no deal, which could arguably be quite disastrous for their economy.

They have one year - one year - to come up with something substantial and not just hollow phrases and meaningless platitudes.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:17:46am

It was removed, but:

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:18:21am

re: #366 Citizen K

I approach most Trump administration figures as if they operate on a mixture of idiocy and malignance. Perry might be the only one of the gang who I may attribute almost pure idiocy.

it’s perry so there could be a third thing….

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:19:09am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

The Clancy Brothers with Ewan McColl’s fishing song:

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Video

Love the patter at the end “isn’t it grand boys to be bloody well dead….”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:20:57am

“… Baer, who works for the U.S. Department of Justice, has also argued that Trump’s use of Twitter was personal, and did not qualify as a “state action.”

In contrast, Katherine Fallow, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, told Buchwald the record “shows unambiguously that the president operates his account in an official capacity.”

She said Trump often uses Twitter to announce policies or policy proposals, such as banning the military from accepting transgender recruits. …”

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:21:24am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

Wow! That is a blast from the past for me!

Back in the 1970’s when I was in college (University of Pittsburgh) I had a group of Scots-Irish friends from east of Pittsburgh. One friend had a farm on Laurel Ridge. We used to go up there on occasional summer evenings, build a fire and listen to Clancey Brothers music. The guys’ favorite song was “Shoals of Herring”. The gals’ preferred “Gypsy Rover”.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:21:45am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

yDLTQCFJrC+2yyYB1qcW9AhYMeG3dFNzogBy6RaYX+0UQFCkt2YOBA==

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:23:19am

re: #378 Dr Lizardo

The main difference is that the UK is up against a very real deadline; March 2019. They’ll crash out of the EU at that point with no deal, which could arguably be quite disastrous for their economy.

They have one year - one year - to come up with something substantial and not just hollow phrases and meaningless platitudes.

Which is why I think the May gov’t is on life support. She stays in power on the promise that she’s going to make Brexit happen, but she can’t make it happen without making her party so toxic that it’ll topple before the ink is even dry on the signatures. The bill is going to come due, it’s a question of how many she’s going to take down with her when it does.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:23:27am

re: #370 lawhawk

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anyone think of this scenario yet:

kid brings handgun to school in his backpack (or wherever)
has a buddy call in a threat
lockdown!
lock the doors, everyone in the closets etc.
and he’s in the closet too - with his gun

its not “just” teachers with their backs turned to the class
its not “just” a teacher losing control of their weapon
its not “just” someone walking into a school with a rifle blazing

there is one common denominator:
a gun
in a school

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:23:47am

re: #383 ckkatz

Wow! That is a blast from the past for me!

Back in the 1970’s when I was in college (University of Pittsburgh) I had a group of Scots-Irish friends from east of Pittsburgh. One friend had a farm on Laurel Ridge. We used to go up there on occasional summer evenings, build a fire and listen to Clancey Brothers music. The guys’ favorite song was “Shoals of Herring”. The gals’ preferred “Gypsy Rover”.

The High Kings are a very successful attempt to re-create the boys. There’s a video in which they don the original knit jumpers, provided by the Clancy grandmother.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:25:57am
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:28:28am

re: #388 The Vicious Babushka

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In related news, the Secret Service investigated a loud whine from the Oval Office, determined it issued from the President upon receipt of the news about the TPP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:29:33am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:31:33am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:33:35am

What could possibly go wrong?

Police: Georgia boy, 3, shoots himself inside vehicle with no adults

(Five kids in the car.)

onlineathens.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:35:32am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:35:35am

re: #391 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Could include exceptions for allies.

Or not.

No one knows because Trump is winging it and isn’t listening to anyone except the howler monkeys stuck in between his ears.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:35:56am
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:36:39am

re: #392 Decatur Deb

What could possibly go wrong?

Police: Georgia boy, 3, shoots himself inside vehicle with no adults

(Five kids in the car.)

onlineathens.com

reckless, careless gun owners are fucking nuts

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:36:52am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Then we find out that they’re shipping more jobs off anyhow. It’s a PR stunt.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:39:31am

re: #373 Barefoot Grin

Glad you liked it! Stan Rogers did a bunch of really great songs. I always liked “Witch of Westmoreland” and “White Collar Holler”. Another of the very sad boat wreck songs is Roger’s Jeannie C. I always viewed it as about a man losing his core identity.

There are some Browne Sisters (with George Cavanaugh) songs on youtube, but the sound is pretty bad. They are a Scots music group out of California and mostly perform at various Scottish Games across the US.)

You bring up an interesting point on the Koreans. Truth be told, I wonder if this is a major weakness on the part of Japan. Even if part of it is due to living in the shadow of the huge Han civilization.

It seems to me that a lot of countries define themselves as being born in a certain place, speaking a certain language and holding a certain set of beliefs. I do not think that this definition is holding up well in the current interconnectedness of the world. Certainly a lot of countries in Europe are currently dealing with this issue. What does it mean to be French? Or German? Or Hungarian? Or English?

I do not think that it is possible to roll the world back to 1800, despite the efforts of the current US administration and other reactionary groups across the world.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:40:57am

re: #398 ckkatz

Glad you liked it! Stan Rogers did a bunch of really great songs. I always liked “Witch of Westmoreland” and “White Collar Holler”. Another of the very sad boat wreck songs is Roger’s Jeannie C. I always viewed it as about a man losing his core identity.

There are some Browne Sisters (with George Cavanaugh) songs on youtube, but the sound is pretty bad. They are a Scots music group out of California and mostly perform at various Scottish Games across the US.)

You bring up an interesting point on the Koreans. Truth be told, I wonder if this is a major weakness on the part of Japan. Even if part of it is due to living in the shadow of the huge Han civilization.

It seems to me that a lot of countries define themselves as being born in a certain place, speaking a certain language and holding a certain set of beliefs. I do not think that this definition is holding up well in the current interconnectedness of the world. Certainly a lot of countries in Europe are currently dealing with this issue. What does it mean to be French? Or German? Or Hungarian? Or English?

I do not think that it is possible to roll the world back to 1800, despite the efforts of the current US administration and other reactionary groups across the world.

After we ship the Trump administration assholes off in disgrace, it will not be possible to roll the world back to 2016.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:43:24am

Jared Kushner appears to be in trouble

And the upside of ignoring norms on nepotism has yet to materialise

economist.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:43:58am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹

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That is a Photoshop.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:48:20am

After the pro-golfer weighed in on an Alabama teen who was killed in an accidental negligent shooting, Jim Wrights’s followers hammered the guy in his Twitter feed until he set his Twitter account to “private.”

He tried everything to excuse a lack of responsibility: moving the goalposts, a hypothetical gun cleaning “accident,” dragging non-sequiturs such as abortion into the argument, everything.

Jim Wright put up a copy of the exchange on his Website today:

Bang Bang Crazy Part 12 (goes to Stonekettle Station)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:50:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:51:31am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

That is a Photoshop.

Hmmm thanks for that. I’m not big at telling the difference when I am not wearing my glasses (or when taken in by confirmation bias).

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:52:08am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹

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yup- personal accountability

Control your gun/weapon/arms at all times. Accept all the criminal, civil and social responsibilities and liabilities for its use, misuse, discharge, storage, control, transfer, etc.

Advocate for and accept the criminal, civil, and social responsibilities and liabilities for demonstrated failure to control your gun/weapon/arms at all times.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:52:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:53:13am

re: #405 dangerman

yup- personal accountability

Control your gun/weapon/arms at all times. Accept all the criminal, civil and social responsibilities and liabilities for its use, misuse, discharge, storage, control, transfer, etc.

Advocate for and accept the criminal, civil, and social responsibilities and liabilities for demonstrated failure to control your gun/weapon/arms at all times.

We are terribly lax on gun liability laws: anyone who sells a gun that winds up in the wrong hands and is used to commit a crime should also be liable for what happens as a result of its use.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:54:37am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:55:15am
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:56:38am

Sadly cowering to the corporate executives who fear Trump:

‘The View’ host apologizes to Pence about comments on religion

ABC’s Joy Behar has reportedly apologized for remarks made on “The View” in which she said that if Jesus is talking to you, it’s a sign of mental illness.

The comments had been directed at Vice President Mike Pence.

Disney CEO Bob Iger, in an address to a shareholder meeting in Houston, said that Behar had apologized “for things she has said about Christians and the Trump administration,” according to multiple media reports.

[…]

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:58:12am
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:58:36am

re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are terribly lax on gun liability laws: anyone who sells a gun that winds up in the wrong hands and is used to commit a crime should also be liable for what happens as a result of its use.

absolutely and so simple

why should anyone be against this idea? /////

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 10:59:25am

re: #387 Decatur Deb

The High Kings are a very successful attempt to re-create the boys. There’s a video in which they don the original knit jumpers, provided by the Clancy grandmother.

I will have to check out the High Kings. And I appreciate the context that you added about them.

Last month there was a discussion on “The Parting Glass” sparked by by the passing of AnyMouse’s Sister-in-Law.

(My condolences, AnyMouse. She sounds like she was a true character. And fit right in with your family.)

Anyway, I did a YouTube search and listened to their version. (I particularly like Peter Hollins version at the moment.)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:00:10am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

Women don’t support Trump because he is a misogynistic POS. There is absolutely no reason for any woman who is not Ivanka to support this fat bag of bigotry, treason & pussygrabbing.

Wife is busy with risotto, so I had to do a dramatic reading for her. Hope I got your voice right.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:00:34am
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:00:51am

And here we have the money shot in encroaching fascism:

“To have ABC maintain a broadcast forum that compared Christianity to mental illness is just wrong,” Pence told C-SPAN. “It is simply wrong for ABC to have a television program that expresses that kind of religious intolerance.”

First off, Pence claims that “Christianity” is those about which Behar spoke, namely, who claim to hear Je$u$ speaking to them.

Secondly, the whole point of opinion programs is to have people who have opinions. ABC doesn’t say that Behar’s views are their own.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:00:57am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

US needs an ambassador to Turkey as relations worsen, general says

this is why jared didnt call up our ambassador to mexico

he didnt think we had one
(i’d hate to think he didnt know we had one)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:00:57am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

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That makes no sense. But nice try FNC.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:01:28am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We don’t have ambassadors to a whole host of countries because Trump hasn’t bothered to fill out the positions.

That includes South Korea and Turkey.

Two strategic partners in regional hotspots.

Trump is actively ignoring US strategic interests by refusing to address absence of people in these posts.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:01:58am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh you mean there are consequences when you have a President totally uninterested in diplomacy and just sends out his dolt daughter and son in law to fix problems?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:02:19am

re: #412 dangerman

absolutely and so simple

why should anyone be against this idea? /////

Personal responsibility is not a conservative value. It is a marketing ploy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:02:26am

re: #419 lawhawk

We don’t have ambassadors to a whole host of countries because Trump hasn’t bothered to fill out the positions.

That includes South Korea and Turkey.

Two strategic partners in regional hotspots.

Trump is actively ignoring US strategic interests by refusing to address absence of people in these posts.

Because he disdains diplomacy and God forbid someone know more than him about a subject..

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:02:47am

re: #399 Decatur Deb

After we ship the Trump administration assholes off in disgrace, it will not be possible to roll the world back to 2016.

I am really counting on the mid-terms to allow us to start addressing the damage caused by these clowns and their Russian friends. But, yes, stuff is already happening that is advancing us past 2016 in terms of ethics and culture.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:02:49am

re: #410 freetoken

Sadly cowering to the corporate executives who fear Trump:

‘The View’ host apologizes to Pence about comments on religion

ABC’s Joy Behar has reportedly apologized for remarks made on “The View” in which she said that if Jesus is talking to you, it’s a sign of mental illness.

metaphorical “talking to you” or literal talking to you?
cause, ok with the first, not the second

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:03:36am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

US needs an ambassador to Turkey as relations worsen, general says

When questioned about why there were so many State Department vacancies, Trump made some glib comment about saving taxpayers’ money.

And his supporters applauded him for it because they all know that government workers do not do anything useful for their salaries.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:04:11am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When questioned about why there were so many State Department vacancies, Trump made some glib comment about saving taxpayers’ money.

And his supporters applauded him for it because they all know that government workers do not do anything useful for their salaries.

Which is such bullshit given the money we spend sending his sorry ass to Mar A Lago every weekend.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:04:52am

re: #424 dangerman

metaphorical “talking to you” or literal talking to you?
cause, ok with the first, not the second

It was pretty clear she was talking about hearing voices in one’s head.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:05:50am

Would that be mangoogling?

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:05:52am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Rick Perry to me on many countries’ plans to phase out coal: “I think it’s a fool’s errand to stand up and say by 2030 we’re going to be done with fossil fuels … and what ? Go back to living like we were living in the mid-1800s?

rick, follow this cause it seems to be tough for you:

1. phase out - a gradual stopping or migrating
2. the use of fossil fuels will be replaced with something else (in phases, see 1) NOT WITH NOTHING AT ALL

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:05:58am

re: #398 ckkatz

Glad you liked it! Stan Rogers did a bunch of really great songs. I always liked “Witch of Westmoreland” and “White Collar Holler”. Another of the very sad boat wreck songs is Roger’s Jeannie C. I always viewed it as about a man losing his core identity.

There are some Browne Sisters (with George Cavanaugh) songs on youtube, but the sound is pretty bad. They are a Scots music group out of California and mostly perform at various Scottish Games across the US.)

You bring up an interesting point on the Koreans. Truth be told, I wonder if this is a major weakness on the part of Japan. Even if part of it is due to living in the shadow of the huge Han civilization.

It seems to me that a lot of countries define themselves as being born in a certain place, speaking a certain language and holding a certain set of beliefs. I do not think that this definition is holding up well in the current interconnectedness of the world. Certainly a lot of countries in Europe are currently dealing with this issue. What does it mean to be French? Or German? Or Hungarian? Or English?

I do not think that it is possible to roll the world back to 1800, despite the efforts of the current US administration and other reactionary groups across the world.

I agree. I think there are still many Japanese who are deeply suspicious of the Abe administration and worried about cynical ploys to deepen their version of patriotism. But there as here, that minority committed to some mythical past that relies on identity definition in opposition to other nations/ethnicities are loud, better organized, and relatively wealthy.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:06:12am

But even if Behar wasn’t speaking about literally hearing voices, it is hardly something about which DisneyABC’s chief ought to cower to Trump.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:06:36am

re: #417 dangerman

Interesting. Looks like she had just resigned. I’d missed that.

npr.org

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:07:37am

re: #428 BlueSpotinAL

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Would that be mangoogling?

White guys can be so goddamned whiny.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:08:08am

re: #431 freetoken

But even if Behar wasn’t speaking about literally hearing voices, it is hardly something about which DisneyABC’s chief ought to cower to Trump.

NOt like FNC ever apologized when belittling Obama.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:08:26am

re: #415 Anymouse 🌹

Hi. How are you? Good, good. Here’s a photo of gun testicles:

they really are fucking nuts re: #396 dangerman

ok, i quit
i just quit it all

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:10:38am

re: #419 lawhawk

We don’t have ambassadors to a whole host of countries because Trump hasn’t bothered to fill out the positions.

That includes South Korea and Turkey.

Two strategic partners in regional hotspots.

Trump is actively ignoring US strategic interests by refusing to address absence of people in these posts.

doesnt know
doesnt care

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:11:34am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When questioned about why there were so many State Department vacancies, Trump made some glib comment about saving taxpayers’ money.

And his supporters applauded him for it because they all know that government workers do not do anything useful for their salaries.

Didn’t he also make some comment along the lines of “whatever the policy is going to be, it’s coming from me.”? It seems like he doesn’t care to have Departments staffed with professionals and experts because he figures he can just say “this is what we’re doing” and it’ll get done regardless.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:12:02am

re: #410 freetoken

Sadly cowering to the corporate executives who fear Trump:

‘The View’ host apologizes to Pence about comments on religion

Gaa… . Joy Behar is an atheist. Being forced by her corporation to apologise to a theocrat like Mike Pence must have really been galling.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:12:18am

re: #436 dangerman

I do wonder whether this is far more deliberate than just disinterest and ignorance.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:12:41am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:12:50am

re: #437 KGxvi

Didn’t he also make some comment along the lines of “whatever the policy is going to be, it’s coming from me.”? It seems like he doesn’t care to have Departments staffed with professionals and experts because he figures he can just say “this is what we’re doing” and it’ll get done regardless.

Yeah I remember that

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:12:51am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Which is such bullshit given the money we spend sending his sorry ass to Mar A Lago every weekend.

that is not the point: he is playing to his base, people who hate government and politics and see them all as useless parasites, elitist careerists or even deep-state traitors.

But Trump is okay because he is the anti-politician, the businessman CEO of America, Inc., who starts Trade Wars because they are easy to win, remember?

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:13:01am

Long ago, on this very board, I used to make the statement that creationists are mentally ill.

Used to get downdinged for that.

At some point, I assert, we need to call out fantasies for what they are.

The likes of Pence participate in a group delusion (note - all religions are human creations and like everything we invent, we create them to fill some need.)

It’s part of being human - creating things.

Yet when we think our inventions, save for some sort of AI (yet to be achieved and no, Alexa doesn’t count), are talking back to us, then we’re clearly deluding ourselves.

I know that religious impulses are universal among humans.

To misconstrue these feelings as someone speaking to you is the essence of many religious teachings.

And they are all delusions.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:13:22am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Well that should compensate for the 10,000+ or so jobs that will probably be lost because of the tariff’s.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:13:32am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:14:35am

re: #429 dangerman

rick, follow this cause it seems to be tough for you:

1. phase out - a gradual stopping or migrating
2. the use of fossil fuels will be replaced with something else (in phases, see 1) NOT WITH NOTHING AT ALL

It is an article of RW faith that environmental whackos want us all to live in lean-tos and wipe our butts with dry leaves. the concept of replacing an outdated, dirty technology with a more efficient and sustainable one is just not part of their consciousness.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:14:36am

re: #442 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is not the point: he is playing to his base, people who hate government and politics and see them all as useless parasites, elitist careerists or even deep-state traitors.

But Trump is okay because he is the anti-politician, the businessman CEO of America, Inc., who starts Trade Wars because they are easy to win, remember?

Dude I know. They’re just so hopelessly fucking dense.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:14:54am

re: #427 freetoken

It was pretty clear she was talking about hearing voices in one’s head.

of course
i was trying to give pence a way out
cause if jesus is talking to him, then i have questions
not for jesus to answer. about the process and the rest of us

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:17:54am

re: #432 JordanRules

Interesting. Looks like she had just resigned. I’d missed that.

npr.org

she’s leaving in May

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:18:41am

Rubin trying to sound all so serious:

Impeachment might not be the wisest course

Back in the days of our colonial founders, tar and feathering might have been the wisest course. Perhaps it still could be?

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:20:09am

re: #437 KGxvi

Didn’t he also make some comment along the lines of “whatever the policy is going to be, it’s coming from me.”? It seems like he doesn’t care to have Departments staffed with professionals and experts because he figures he can just say “this is what we’re doing” and it’ll get done regardless.

do we really have to say that there’s reasons why we put embassies and ambassadors and staff in foreign countries?

because they know and can learn stuff you cant while planting your ass behind the resolute desk mugging for fake photos of you “working”

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:21:23am

re: #396 dangerman

reckless, careless gun owners are fucking nuts

And when something like this happens, all guns should be confiscated and no more allowed ever. You get one chance to show you can own a gun. Any stupidity and your 2A rights are gone.

It was posted here last weekend about the Ohio mother whose 8 year old son shot her 4 year old daughter.

That was bad enough. Read this article from The Canton (OH) Repository. It was actually worse. The link takes you to a survey question before opening the article

Mom goes back to work after son, 8, shoots his sister

ASHLAND The mother of two young children involved in a Saturday shooting returned to work after coming home to check on injuries to her 4-year-old daughter, the prosecutor said during her bond-setting hearing.

Alyssa M. Edwards, 27, was charged on Monday with two counts of endangering children by the Ashland County Sheriff’s Office after the 8-year-old boy shot his 4-year-old sister four times with a rifle in their Hayesville home, said Chief Deputy Carl Richert.

Edwards appeared for a bond setting via Skype while in the Ashland County Jail on Monday afternoon.

Ashland County Prosecutor Christopher Tunnell said that Edwards’ husband believed she was taking the two children to a babysitter after she and her husband both left for work. Instead, Tunnell said, she left the two children home alone.

The .22-caliber rifle was kept in a gun locker with other firearms in the home, Tunnell said. It was unclear whether it was locked. Even if it were locked, he said, the 8-year-old knew how to unlock the gun locker and “was familiar with the firearm.”

“The ammunition was was stored separate from the gun, and it appears the 8-year-old was able to load the magazine and chamber the first round,” Tunnell said.

Tunnell indicated Edwards was informed of the shooting of the 4-year-old by the 8-year-old around 10 a.m. while working at a nearby horse farm.

“She came home, cleaned up a bed cover with blood on it, examined the 4-year-old and was aware the 4-year-old was injured at the time,” Tunnell said. “And despite that knowledge, clocked back in at work at 11 a.m., again leaving the 8-year-old and the 4-year-old home alone, yet again.”

It wasn’t until between noon and 2 p.m. that Edwards took both children to the hospital, after urine appeared to be leaking out of the girl’s wound, Tunnell said. The hospital then contacted police, and it wasn’t until then that the husband was told of the shooting, the prosecutor said.

Edwards does not have any prior criminal convictions, Tunnell said.

(more at link)

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:21:38am

re: #439 ckkatz

I do wonder whether this is far more deliberate than just disinterest and ignorance.

truth is i cant figure out why he does anything he does

i was just standing here waiting for the next bus

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rhuarc  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:21:44am

re: #450 freetoken

Rubin trying to sound all so serious:

Impeachment might not be the wisest course

Back in the days of our colonial founders, tar and feathering might have been the wisest course. Perhaps it still could be?

I actually have no problem with what she laid out.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:22:02am

re: #419 lawhawk

We don’t have ambassadors to a whole host of countries because Trump hasn’t bothered to fill out the positions.

That includes South Korea and Turkey.

Two strategic partners in regional hotspots.

Trump is actively ignoring US strategic interests by refusing to address absence of people in these posts.

I was just looking at the list of ambassadors on wikipedia. They still have Bass (current ambassador to Afghanistan) listed as the ambassador to Turkey. On the bright side, it looks like most of Trump’s appointments have been career diplomats rather than political appointees. As it stands it looks like there’s about 35 vacancies, which probably isn’t a good thing.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:22:19am

re: #449 dangerman

Thanks. My brain read that as March 5th.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:23:44am

re: #454 rhuarc

I actually have no problem with what she laid out.

As the tariff thing so easily demonstrates, every week Trump remains in office is a week that stabs at the heart of our society.

If the House impeaches and a few Republican Senators make it so Trump isn’t removed, then let them face the wrath of the voters in 2020 for their complicity in Trump’s damages.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:25:29am

Personally, assuming the Democrats end up with 51 Senators next year, I think it won’t be that hard to find 15 Republican Senators who would like to see Trump gone, or have enough internal morals left to remove a President due to crimes regardless of party pressure.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:25:30am

re: #454 rhuarc

I actually have no problem with what she laid out.

Other than the Republicans will do none of it, and Trump gets to keep dismantling and de-legitimizing the country day by day for almost another 3 years.

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:27:03am

re: #430 Barefoot Grin

I agree. I think there are still many Japanese who are deeply suspicious of the Abe administration and worried about cynical ploys to deepen their version of patriotism. But there as here, that minority committed to some mythical past that relies on identity definition in opposition to other nations/ethnicities are loud, better organized, and relatively wealthy.

I know too little about Japan. And, am not too sure about the ‘truthiness’ of what I think I know.

But Japan has a number of strategic decisions to make. I find that quite interesting. I think that they made the correct one in continuing to support the TPP. (For their self-interest as I understand it. Ignoring the US versus China benefits. Although, once the US has returned to sanity, I suspect that it will also benefit us.)

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:27:37am
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:30:09am

re: #450 freetoken

Rubin trying to sound all so serious:

Impeachment might not be the wisest course

Back in the days of our colonial founders, tar and feathering might have been the wisest course. Perhaps it still could be?

this is true:

The magnitude and variety of President Trump’s sins of commission (e.g. repeated attempts to derail the Russia investigation) and omission (e.g. failing to protect our country from meddling) suggest that once Robert S. Mueller III finishes his report and his indictments, there will be ample grounds to conclude that the president abused his power and violated his oath.

the rest of her article is based on there not being a strong majority to impeach.
well, i don’t think “we” think this yet.

We think a majority of House members in good conscience (which would mean Republicans), when all the facts are in and his efforts to undermine the Russia investigation are laid out, could find that his conduct met the standard for impeachment (“high crimes and misdemeanors”).

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stpaulbear  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:31:38am

re: #263 Dave In Austin

Rep. Roger Williams

@RepRWilliams
#OTD 117 years ago, the Bluebonnet was named the official Texas state flower.

Do you have memories of your family pulling over to the side of an interstate and taking some photos in bluebonnet fields as a kid? Tweet me your photos!

Does Rep Williams know that the reason that there are bluebonnets instead of litter all over Texas is Ladybird Johnson?

I never saw what the American landscape looked like before Lady Bird Johnson came along, but my father did. When he was a kid in Texas, his parents would take him and his brothers for long drives in the country. Dad remembers his father’s approach to litter control. If anybody had a paper bag or a bottle cap or an apple core, he’d say, “Get that out of the car,” and one of the boys would roll down the window and toss it out. The inside of the car stayed clean, and nobody gave much thought to what the highway looked like as they blew past it. In a state as big as Texas, who would even notice one more little scrap of paper?

But that’s not the Texas I knew. In 1969, the year I was born, Lady Bird Johnson started handing out the Texas Highway Beautification Awards and writing personal checks to the winners. Soon everybody was planting bluebonnets, Indian paintbrushes, and black-eyed Susans in the hopes of winning her approval. Driving out to see the wildflowers bloom was something everybody did in the spring. As for the trash? Lady Bird thought that people just wouldn’t have the nerve to throw garbage on a field of bluebonnets, our state flower. She was right.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:32:35am

re: #462 dangerman

Rubin is just trying to skirt the reality that her long-time allegiance to “conservatives” also means she’s been a long-time ally of morally debauched and Trump-enabling Republicans.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:35:43am

The Iger thing, that the head of Disney is touting an apology to the Trump Administration, is a clear example of why corporate media in the end serve only their money masters.

Disney has often tried to court the more religious part of our society, more so than many other Hollywood-originating entertainment enterprises.

The ironic thing is that many Christian fundamentalists used to rail against Disney for the latter’s alleged satanism and immorality.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:36:27am
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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:37:50am

re: #458 freetoken

Personally, assuming the Democrats end up with 51 Senators next year, I think it won’t be that hard to find 15 Republican Senators who would like to see Trump gone, or have enough internal morals left to remove a President due to crimes regardless of party pressure.

Let’s assume Democrats hold all their seats and pick up Nevada and Arizona, giving them 51 votes. How many remaining Republicans would vote for removal? Let’s play the game:

1. Ted Cruz (assuming he holds off O’Rourke and is chastised a bit by a close race, or more realistically he sees it as a means of being able to run in 2020)
2. Lisa Murkowsi
3. John McCain (health allowing, and because he’s a crotchty old man who doesn’t like Trump)
4. Marco Rubio (again, it means a chance to run in 2020; problem is it would require courage)
5. Susan Collins
6. Ben Sasse
7. Rand Paul (2020 run, dislike of Trump, got high and said “guilty” instead of “not guilty”)
8. Lindsay Graham (because McCain told him to)
9. Mitt Romney (because it’s the closest he’ll ever get to flipping off both Trump and Putin)

I’m not sure who else would be persuadable. Mostly because I don’t know enough about them or the dynamics of their home states. Then again, depending on the nature of the evidence against Trump (and his approval rating continuing to drop), a whole host of Republicans could see it being in their best interest.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:39:25am

re: #467 KGxvi

Why not start with the House? How many Republicans there would vote for Articles of Impeachment against a Republican president?

My guess is zero.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:40:40am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:41:04am

re: #467 KGxvi

Let’s assume Democrats hold all their seats and pick up Nevada and Arizona, giving them 51 votes. How many remaining Republicans would vote for removal? Let’s play the game:

1. Ted Cruz (assuming he holds off O’Rourke and is chastised a bit by a close race, or more realistically he sees it as a means of being able to run in 2020)
2. Lisa Murkowsi
3. John McCain (health allowing, and because he’s a crotchty old man who doesn’t like Trump)
4. Marco Rubio (again, it means a chance to run in 2020; problem is it would require courage)
5. Susan Collins
6. Ben Sasse
7. Rand Paul (2020 run, dislike of Trump, got high and said “guilty” instead of “not guilty”)
8. Lindsay Graham (because McCain told him to)
9. Mitt Romney (because it’s the closest he’ll ever get to flipping off both Trump and Putin)

I’m not sure who else would be persuadable. Mostly because I don’t know enough about them or the dynamics of their home states. Then again, depending on the nature of the evidence against Trump (and his approval rating continuing to drop), a whole host of Republicans could see it being in their best interest.

Ben Sasse? Lindsey Graham? Ted Cruz? I don’t think so.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:41:07am

re: #467 KGxvi

Unlike 2018, where the majority of Senate seats up for reelection are held by Democrats, the 2020 class is very Republican heavy.

Assuming there is a wave of Democratic victories this fall, and impeachment proceedings are carried out and voted upon, then any Republican Senator up for reelection in 2020 has to be very interested in preserving their own hide, not Trump’s.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:41:48am

re: #468 Skip Intro

Why not start with the House? How many Republicans there would vote for Articles of Impeachment?

My guess is zero.

I’m assuming Democrats gain control of the House, and Articles of Impeachment require a simple majority. Clinton’s impeachment carried with 228 votes and 221 votes.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:42:22am

re: #470 Hecuba’s daughter

Everybody here understands that impeachment starts in the House, right?

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:42:59am

re: #473 Skip Intro

Everybody here understands that impeachment starts in the House, right?

Yes, I’m assuming that the Dems carry the House, and impeach.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:43:08am

re: #472 KGxvi

I’m assuming Democrats gain control of the House, and Articles of Impeachment require a simple majority. Clinton’s impeachment carried with 228 votes and 221 votes.

When do you see this miracle occurring?

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:43:57am
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:44:23am

re: #463 stpaulbear

Does Rep Williams know that the reason that there are bluebonnets instead of litter all over Texas is Ladybird Johnson?

i spent a lot of time motorcycling america’s highways
she did good

though i generally spend only half the time on superslabs, ike did good too

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:45:43am

re: #470 Hecuba’s daughter

Ben Sasse? Lindsey Graham? Ted Cruz? I don’t think so.

Again, I see Cruz doing it out of some combination of spite, arrogance, and opportunity… spite for 2016, arrogance and opportunity based on 2020. I tend to agree with Andrew Sullivan that Graham is basically Butters from Southpark, and I could see him either going along with McCain or trying to stick to Cartman/Trump or just for once having a conscious. Sasse strikes me as one of those guys who believes conservativism deserves better than Trump and I could see him casting a conviction vote in order to somehow establish himself as a conscious of conservativism.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:46:12am

re: #475 Skip Intro

When do you see this miracle occurring?

January 3, 2019.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:46:23am

re: #476 Ace-o-aces

The Hill

@thehill
Turmoil takes toll on White House hill.cm pic.twitter.com

Mohammed Markstein - Antifa Media Liaison
@aceoaces
“In Cohn’s absence, lawmakers said they might fill the void by passing legislation to restrict Trump’s ability to set trade policy.”

This is a Republican congress saying they don’t trust a Republican president!
1:40 PM - Mar 8, 2018
Replies Retweets likes

They don’t trust him when he’s trying to enact policies their donors don’t like. Otherwise they are good with him.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:47:09am

re: #479 KGxvi

January 3, 2019.

That’s a hell of a lot of seats flipping.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:47:32am

re: #480 Hecuba’s daughter

They don’t trust him when he’s trying to enact policies their donors don’t like. Otherwise they are good with him.

Another reason I could see some Republicans voting to impeach/convict - calls from donors saying they need the loose cannon removed.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:47:51am

re: #476 Ace-o-aces

All it took was a wacked out president to get Republicans to think about doing their job.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:48:33am

re: #477 dangerman

i spent a lot of time motorcycling america’s highways
she did good

though i generally spend only half the time on superslabs, ike did good too

The now-abandoned federal highways that Ike replaced with the superslabs are great for acoustic cycling. Except the rest stops now consist of walking into the nearest corn field, and don’t forget the paper. It is no longer supplied.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:49:06am

re: #473 Skip Intro

Everybody here understands that impeachment starts in the House, right?

it does
and while we’re all speculating while waiting for the bus, if the dems control the house they will not hold this vote in a vacuum

they’re gonna have some idea how the senate is lining up

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:49:25am

re: #481 Skip Intro

That’s a hell of a lot of seats flipping.

It happened in 2006 with a smaller percentage of Democrats eager to vote.

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:49:32am
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:49:47am

re: #481 Skip Intro

That’s a hell of a lot of seats flipping.

No, just 23.

But that wouldn’t leave much margin.

Flipping 40 seats would give a margin for many things.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:50:24am

re: #481 Skip Intro

That’s a hell of a lot of seats flipping.

25 seats, and based on some of the projections/retirements it seems well within reach.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:50:30am

re: #469 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s a WMD attack.

In other words, a war crime/crime against humanity.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:50:50am

re: #467 KGxvi

The Senate map doesn’t favor the Democrats given that this class has more Democrats up for reelection/election than GOPers. But getting to 51 is possible.

As you correctly note, it takes more than 51 to get impeachment.

And this GOP is that craven that they’ll block removal on purely partisan lines even if the facts and evidence supports removal and prosecution for multiple felonies.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:52:03am

re: #481 Skip Intro

Not that many actually.

There are quite a few GOP seats in just NY, CA, and NJ that could swing the House to Democratic control.

Current GOP/Dem split is 241/194.

Democrats need to get to 218. That’s just 24 seats.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:53:13am

I don’t expect impeachment to happen. Instead, I expect Trump to either quit or drop out of the 2020 race. He’ll make a lot of noise about how he’s leaving with “dignity,” but the reality will be that he’s virtually guaranteed to lose bigly at the polls and would rather go out a “winner.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:53:15am

Actual FB quote from a Trumpster: “FWIW, I don’t agree with ‘everything’ Trump, but he’s what we need to drain the thoroughly corrupt good ol’ boys swamp”

Hard to persuade people this deluded.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:53:23am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹

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There are not enough updings in the world for this. I have shared it far and wide.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:53:47am

re: #458 freetoken

Personally, assuming the Democrats end up with 51 Senators next year, I think it won’t be that hard to find 15 Republican Senators who would like to see Trump gone, or have enough internal morals left to remove a President due to crimes regardless of party pressure.

I think it would, unless there is overwhelming evidence of serious crimes committed by Trump personally. The GOP would rip in two, and any chance they had of winning the 2020 presidential election would evaporate. The best hope for them is that if the economy stays good that Trump decides he has already achieved MAGA and anoints Mike Pence as his successor so the party stays united.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:54:31am

re: #443 freetoken

Long ago, on this very board, I used to make the statement that creationists are mentally ill.

Used to get downdinged for that.

At some point, I assert, we need to call out fantasies for what they are.

The likes of Pence participate in a group delusion (note - all religions are human creations and like everything we invent, we create them to fill some need.)

It’s part of being human - creating things.

Yet when we think our inventions, save for some sort of AI (yet to be achieved and no, Alexa doesn’t count), are talking back to us, then we’re clearly deluding ourselves.

I know that religious impulses are universal among humans.

To misconstrue these feelings as someone speaking to you is the essence of many religious teachings.

And they are all delusions.

I’m back. Had to deal with an emergency in my bathroom (toilet flooded over, yay, fortunately I have a carpet cleaner).

I would disagree on a couple points:

a) Religious impulses are not universal amongst humans. Aside from the native tribe in Brazil long studied that has no concept of things such as “spirituality” or “gods,” every single person who is religious learned it from someone else. It was inculcated, not a universal impulse.

“Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.” - Aristotle, with the ancient Greek version of “Propaganda’s a helluva drug.”

b) Regardless of whether Pence or anyone else wishes to practice a religion, the second it crosses the line into political policy it has no place in a secular state. John F. Kennedy spent a lot of time in his campaign convincing people he would not be subject to the Pope’s whims.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:55:09am

re: #482 KGxvi

Another reason I could see some Republicans voting to impeach/convict - calls from donors saying they need the loose cannon removed.

I look at the current Republican party as nothing more than a dam holding back what they probably do realize is a bad situation for their party in hopes they can get what they want.

There are cracks forming, the Koch brothers added to them yesterday. The current election results are another. Day after day bad news about Trump another.

All we need is one decent sized hole to occur and that damn is going to crumble and there will be Republicans spilling out and streaming away from Trump and Trumpers as fast as possible.

It will be a total mess as they will all start to point fingers at each other and trying to show who was more anti-Trump than the others.

Hopefully it will be damaging enough they will have trouble rebuilding their damn party!

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:56:42am

re: #498 Anymouse 🌹

a) Religious impulses are not universal amongst humans. Aside from the native tribe in Brazil long studied that has no concept of things such as “spirituality” or “gods,” every single person who is religious learned it from someone else. It was inculcated, not a universal impulse.

I simply wrote that religious impulses are universal among humans, not that they are genetic (or epigenetic) or inherent in the physics of the universe.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:58:09am

re: #491 lawhawk

The Senate map doesn’t favor the Democrats given that this class has more Democrats up for reelection/election than GOPers. But getting to 51 is possible.

As you correctly note, it takes more than 51 to get impeachment.

And this GOP is that craven that they’ll block removal on purely partisan lines even if the facts and evidence supports removal and prosecution for multiple felonies.

I suppose one of the central questions is how will the Republicans respond to being in the minority in one or both Houses? It also depends on how much further Trump spirals between now and then and how the big GOP donors react - for example, I’m guessing the Koch brothers probably aren’t on board with tariffs and a trade war. And as someone mentioned above, the 2020 map has lots of Republicans up in the Senate (though in mostly favorable races), so a combination of erratic behavior, trade wars, and a deeply unpopular president could lead some of them to save themselves over an interloper who has no real loyalty to the party.

There’s a lot of moving parts here, and it’s hard to game it out without controlling for some issues or otherwise making assumptions.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:58:13am

re: #484 wrenchwench

The now-abandoned federal highways that Ike replaced with the superslabs are great for acoustic cycling. Except the rest stops now consist of walking into the nearest corn field, and don’t forget the paper. It is no longer supplied.

Yeah, I like to drive the old state highways that were built by the CCC and WPA back in depression days. Most of those road beds are still in great shape and even if the pavement is getting old it doesn’t form huge holes and have dips from bad grading and fast fills without allowing it all to settle.

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ericblair  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:58:55am

re: #497 Big Beautiful Door

I think it would, unless there is overwhelming evidence of serious crimes committed by Trump personally. The GOP would rip in two, and any chance they had of winning the 2020 presidential election would evaporate. The best hope for them is that if the economy stays good that Trump decides he has already achieved MAGA and anoints Mike Pence as his successor so the party stays united.

I’d agree, if Trump would be calm and serious during the impeachment process and handle himself with dignity. Since, in the real world, this has utterly zero chance of happening, he will get more and more unhinged by the day. The gooper senators will be forced to either vote for his removal or publicly support an increasingly crazy gibbering lunatic in the White House contradicting himself and threatening lawmakers on an hourly basis.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2018 • 11:59:20am

re: #498 Anymouse 🌹

I’m back. Had to deal with an emergency in my bathroom (toilet flooded over, yay, fortunately I have a carpet cleaner).

I would disagree on a couple points:

a) Religious impulses are not universal amongst humans. Aside from the native tribe in Brazil long studied that has no concept of things such as “spirituality” or “gods,” every single person who is religious learned it from someone else. It was inculcated, not a universal impulse.

“Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.” - Aristotle, with the ancient Greek version of “Propaganda’s a helluva drug.”

b) Regardless of whether Pence or anyone else wishes to practice a religion, the second it crosses the line into political policy it has no place in a secular state. John F. Kennedy spent a lot of time in his campaign convincing people he would not be subject to the Pope’s whims.

That was then — this is now. The modern GOP is perfectly fine being ruled by a theocrat, because today’s Protestant theocrats follow the Koch Bros line on taxes and the environment. And the only acceptable theocrat is a Protestant. Other religions need not apply

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:02:24pm

re: #501 KGxvi

I suppose one of the central questions is how will the Republicans respond to being in the minority in one or both Houses? It also depends on how much further Trump spirals between now and then and how the big GOP donors react - for example, I’m guessing the Koch brothers probably aren’t on board with tariffs and a trade war. And as someone mentioned above, the 2020 map has lots of Republicans up in the Senate (though in mostly favorable races), so a combination of erratic behavior, trade wars, and a deeply unpopular president could lead some of them to save themselves over an interloper who has no real loyalty to the party.

There’s a lot of moving parts here, and it’s hard to game it out without controlling for some issues or otherwise making assumptions.

As long as the GOP base is loyal to Trump, they won’t move against him. Guaranteed way to get primaried out of office.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:02:42pm

re: #493 lawhawk

Not that many actually.

There are quite a few GOP seats in just NY, CA, and NJ that could swing the House to Democratic control.

3 states where we don’t have to worry about the effect of voter disenfranchisement!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:05:03pm

re: #378 Dr Lizardo

The main difference is that the UK is up against a very real deadline; March 2019. They’ll crash out of the EU at that point with no deal, which could arguably be quite disastrous for their economy.

They have one year - one year - to come up with something substantial and not just hollow phrases and meaningless platitudes.

Conservatism is about gaining and maintaining power in every country throughout history.

The Conservatives in the UK could end this charade tomorrow by saying “You know what Brussels? This whole Brexit thing is a bad idea for us. We wish to withdraw our Article 50 request.”

They won’t do it. Because they are afraid of their bigot voters, they will see the breakup of the United Kingdom before they give an inch of power away.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:05:04pm

re: #505 Big Beautiful Door

As long as the GOP base is loyal to Trump, they won’t move against him. Guaranteed way to get primaried out of office.

Sure, but if the choices are losing in the general or losing in the primary… then why not do the honorable thing on the way out the door? That makes for a better hook in a memoir someday.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:06:23pm

re: #508 KGxvi

Sure, but if the choices are losing in the general or losing in the primary… then why not do the honorable thing on the way out the door? That makes for a better hook in a memoir someday.

Do you just fantasize about Republicans doing the honorable thing?

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:07:15pm

re: #509 Big Beautiful Door

Do you just fantasize about Republicans doing the honorable thing?

I used to be a Republican, so yeah, sometimes I like to believe they still care about doing the right thing.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:07:34pm

re: #496 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

There are not enough updings in the world for this. I have shared it far and wide.

The link to Stonekettle’s article.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:08:46pm

Speaking of the Koch brothers, this headline from Brietbart made me laugh:

Pro-Mass Immigration Koch Brothers Oppose Trump’s Tariffs: ‘It Hurts the Administration’

The article itself gets even crazier, but I’m not going to link to it. (Went looking to see what the Kochs had said about the tariffs)

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BigPapa  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:09:17pm

Looks like the Chuccubus is in a Russian video game. Coincidence?

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:13:25pm

re: #513 BigPapa

Looks like the Chuccubus is in a Russian video game. Coincidence?

[Embedded content]

That depends. Does the character poops randomly on the floor?

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BigPapa  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:15:00pm

re: #514 Sea Mexican!

That depends. Does the character poops randomly on the floor?

Maybe, in the cheat codes?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:16:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:16:10pm

re: #484 wrenchwench

The now-abandoned federal highways that Ike replaced with the superslabs are great for acoustic cycling. Except the rest stops now consist of walking into the nearest corn field, and don’t forget the paper. It is no longer supplied.

What are these “superslabs” of which you speak? /s

Our two undivided US highways in this county are the most important roads. (On a side note, the last unpaved US highway was in this state.)

Omaha has turned some downtown streets to gravel … US-6 is on the list to be turned to gravel.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:16:27pm

re: #515 BigPapa

Maybe, in the cheat codes?

up up down down left right left right a b a b start

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:17:29pm

re: #502 ObserverArt

Yeah, I like to drive the old state highways that were built by the CCC and WPA back in depression days. Most of those road beds are still in great shape and even if the pavement is getting old it doesn’t form huge holes and have dips from bad grading and fast fills without allowing it all to settle.

It’s settled. Way settled. Some of it has shoulders, some doesn’t. I’m a ‘take the lane’ cyclist, so I don’t care much, but it’s nice to have when the trucks don’t move over. There was a highway in Kansas that had lots of speeding trucks, because it was too dangerous for the highway patrol to pull them over. What shoulder it had was muddy and steep. The shoulders would change at the county line. We stopped at a sheriff’s station to find out the condition (or existence) of the shoulder in the next county. The uniformed officer at the counter said, ‘I don’t know. I ain’t never been there.’

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:18:34pm

re: #413 ckkatz

I will have to check out the High Kings. And I appreciate the context that you added about them.

Last month there was a discussion on “The Parting Glass” sparked by by the passing of AnyMouse’s Sister-in-Law.

(My condolences, AnyMouse. She sounds like she was a true character. And fit right in with your family.)

Anyway, I did a YouTube search and listened to their version. (I particularly like Peter Hollins version at the moment.)

I’ve listened to exactly one CD of the High Kings. Nice sound, but I think someone should tell them that not everything is a ballad. “Mairi’s Wedding” is normally a perky dance number, not a slow air.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:19:50pm

re: #511 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

The link to Stonekettle’s article.

Sharing my comment far and wide would get you “Anymouse who?”

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:20:21pm

re: #517 Anymouse 🌹

What are these “superslabs” of which you speak? /s

Our two undivided US highways in this county are the most important roads. (On a side note, the last unpaved US highway was in this state.

Omaha has turned some downtown streets to gravel … US-6 is on the list to be turned to gravel.

You have TWO highways? I always thought your town/county was smaller than mine, but we only have one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:21:37pm

re: #413 ckkatz

I will have to check out the High Kings. And I appreciate the context that you added about them.

Last month there was a discussion on “The Parting Glass” sparked by by the passing of AnyMouse’s Sister-in-Law.

(My condolences, AnyMouse. She sounds like she was a true character. And fit right in with your family.)

Anyway, I did a YouTube search and listened to their version. (I particularly like Peter Hollins version at the moment.)

She did. My sister’s birthday was two days ago. She is still quite torn up, having to deal with the aftermath, the medical debt, and only a month later her birthday. (She had friends with her though.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:23:23pm

re: #522 wrenchwench

You have TWO highways? I always thought your town/county was smaller than mine, but we only have one.

We have three. We even have a state highway (NE-92), also paved. (On a side note, state highway number 92 is the longest continuously same-numbered state highway in the country: It starts just south of Chicago and ends in Torrington, Wyo. It passes around the side of my town. I have driven it from central Iowa to Torrington.)

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:25:12pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:25:26pm

re: #450 freetoken

Rubin trying to sound all so serious:

Impeachment might not be the wisest course

Back in the days of our colonial founders, tar and feathering might have been the wisest course. Perhaps it still could be?

I just got done listening to Adam Schiff on Preet’s podcast. He too says Dems should back off impeachment talk, let Mueller’s thing play out, and even then be extremely careful of how and when they discuss impeachment. His argument is that Dems need to get out and make positive messages about healthcare, DACA, and other economic issues so that they can take back Congress in order to constrain Trump, who “we all know is not fit for his job.” He may be cagey there for political purposes, but it does make some sense.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:27:47pm

Meanwhile, Mexico may end up building and paying for their own wall:

Beyond that, Mr. Kushner, who also met with Mexico’s foreign minister, did not invite the American ambassador — Roberta S. Jacobson, a diplomat with more than 30 years of experience in the region — to join him in the meetings, according to a senior American official who was not authorized to speak publicly.

Trump sent Kushner to Mexico to talk with Pena Nieto. Even though Kushner doesn’t have security clearance and doesn’t, apparently, see the need to include people like the ambassador to Mexico.

We are so fucked.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:28:05pm

re: #521 Anymouse 🌹

Sharing my comment far and wide would get you “Anymouse who?”

Bwahaha! That’s why I clarified my previous comment. ;-)

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:29:04pm

re: #526 Barefoot Grin

I just got done listening to Adam Schiff on Preet’s podcast. He too says Dems should back off impeachment talk, let Mueller’s thing play out, and even then be extremely careful of how and when they discuss impeachment. His argument is that Dems need to get out and make positive messages about healthcare, DACA, and other economic issues so that they can take back Congress in order to constrain Trump, who “we all know is not fit for his job.” He may be cagey there for political purposes, but it does make some sense.

That ought to fit the people who argue we can’t be just “Not Republican.”

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ckkatz  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:30:15pm

re: #520 calochortus

I’ve listened to exactly one CD of the High Kings. Nice sound, but I think someone should tell them that not everything is a ballad. “Mairi’s Wedding” is normally a perky dance number, not a slow air.

Interesting point. Something that I will need to listen for, to see how they vary their musical approach for different songs.

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stpaulbear  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:30:41pm

re: #527 KGxvi

Meanwhile, Mexico may end up building and paying for their own wall:

Trump sent Kushner to Mexico to talk with Pena Nieto. Even though Kushner doesn’t have security clearance and doesn’t, apparently, see the need to include people like the ambassador to Mexico.

We are so fucked.

I’m sure that Mexican officials gave that meeting all of the gravitas to which it was entitled. I bet people showed up for that meeting just to see how stupid it would be.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:39:13pm
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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:39:53pm

So just went to the White House website to see if there was a copy of the proposed tariff orders up yet to read. They’ve redone the website and it looks a lot more like a campaign website than I can ever remember seeing before. For example, there’s now an “issues” tab at the top of the page, and when you click on it, you get sent to a page that reads much more like a campaign than a government. Also, I can’t seem to find proposed regulations, executive orders, or bills that have been sent to the president. Something seems very not right about this.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:41:22pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:42:38pm

re: #533 KGxvi

So just went to the White House website to see if there was a copy of the proposed tariff orders up yet to read. They’ve redone the website and it looks a lot more like a campaign website than I can ever remember seeing before. For example, there’s now an “issues” tab at the top of the page, and when you click on it, you get sent to a page that reads much more like a campaign than a government. Also, I can’t seem to find proposed regulations, executive orders, or bills that have been sent to the president. Something seems very not right about this.

I’m pretty sure that using government resources (i.e. the White House website) to support a political campaign is highly unethical, if not outright illegal.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:42:56pm

re: #533 KGxvi

They’ve completely fucked up the functionality of the site. It’s also entirely predictable thanks to Trump’s complete incompetence.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:43:04pm
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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:43:17pm

re: #534 JordanRules

WAIT, YOU’RE TELLING ME THERE WERE TWO ROOSEVELTS?

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:43:50pm

re: #531 stpaulbear

I’m sure that Mexican officials gave that meeting all of the gravitas to which it was entitled. I bet people showed up for that meeting just to see how stupid it would be.

Some New Mexicans are so mixed up, they’re putting a fence around the wall. And it’s a Libertarian at that!

[…]

Land Commissioner Aubrey Dunn told The Associated Press that if his office can’t reach an agreement over an easement with the federal government, he will install a fence to block access to the property.

[…]

Dunn’s staff determined that one parcel between the Santa Teresa port of entry and El Paso, Texas, had been initially conveyed to what was then the territory of New Mexico under the 1898 Ferguson Act. New Mexico officials contend the parcel was never part of the buffer zone that was established by a 1907 presidential proclamation to ensure federal authorities could patrol along the southern border.

Dunn said a survey by the Bureau of Land Management and other records show the state owns the entire parcel and that the federal government never received permission from the state to build the border barrier that has existed there for years, or to use the roads in the area.

There also are questions about whether a right of way is needed for another area where the federal government has installed lights and is maintaining a road along the border.

Easement and rights of way fees would cost roughly $30,000 for the parcels in question, according to preliminary estimates by the State Land Office.

“This trespass issue is not a new issue,” Dunn said. “There’s been quite a bit of federal encroachment.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:44:19pm
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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:44:50pm

re: #536 lawhawk

They’ve completely fucked up the functionality of the site. It’s also entirely predictable thanks to Trump’s complete incompetence.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump doesn’t even know that the White House has a website. This feels like something someone in communications did in order to hide whatever it is they’re doing. But yeah, it’s completely impossible to use now.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:45:35pm

re: #532 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The Monmouth University poll found that 50 percent of NRA members disapprove of how the grieving students have handled themselves in the media. Sixty-five percent say the students from Parkland, Fla., are not effective advocates, and 61 percent believe they are being manipulated by outside groups rather than expressing their own beliefs.

The views of the NRA members are tougher on the students than those of self-identified gun owners. Forty-eight percent of gun owners say the students are effective advocates, and 53 percent approve of how they are handling themselves in the media.

The students are seen favorably when the survey includes both gun owners and people who do not own guns.

Sixty-two percent over all say the students are effective advocates for gun control, with just 28 percent saying they are not effective. Fifty-seven percent say the students are having more impact than past victims of mass shootings.

Translation: NRA members think victims are the ones being manipulated, when a poll of non-NRA members show the exact opposite is true.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:46:23pm

re: #541 KGxvi

That was ultimately under Hope Hicks.

WH Communications Director.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:46:44pm

re: #536 lawhawk

They’ve completely fucked up the functionality of the site. It’s also entirely predictable thanks to Trump’s complete incompetence.

Would anyone be surprised to find out that the site was reworked by a guy who lied on his resume and got the job because he wore his “MAGA” hat to the interview?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:46:51pm

“And as a parting gift I want to present Gary with this Pepe doll….”

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:47:41pm

re: #539 wrenchwench

Some New Mexicans are so mixed up, they’re putting a fence around the wall. And it’s a Libertarian at that!

Libertarians take easements and property rights fairly seriously, it’s kinda their thing. They also tend to favor more immigration, not less, so there’s probably that bit fueling this too.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:48:23pm
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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:48:25pm

re: #543 lawhawk

That was ultimately under Hope Hicks.

WH Communications Director.

Ah, well, then I’m definitely going to say that was the intent.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:49:22pm

re: #547 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

“So you say if I run over hookers, money pops up?”

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:49:59pm

re: #546 KGxvi

Libertarians take easements and property rights fairly seriously, it’s kinda their thing. They also tend to favor more immigration, not less, so there’s probably that bit fueling this too.

Libertarians favor immigrants only so long as they never become citizens. (Sorry, I understand you are recovering.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:50:38pm

Kris Kobach’s lawyers are stunningly incompetent regarding basic things as introduction of evidence and questioning witnesses re: the suit against Kansas for denying people the right to vote.

Federal Judge Thinks Kris Kobach Is An Asshole Too (Wonkette)

They go through the trial and the incredible incompetence of Kobach’s team trying to defend one of the strictest voting registration laws in the nation. (As an aside a couple years ago, the state refused to accept Federal military absentee ballots from active duty personnel, because Federal regulations are not as strict as Kansas’s to prove citizenship. They backed down after the Pentagon threatened to sue.)

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:50:57pm

re: #530 ckkatz

Interesting point. Something that I will need to listen for, to see how they vary their musical approach for different songs.

As I said, I haven’t heard a lot of them and they may vary more than on that one CD (the eponymous “The High Kings”,) but as someone who danced to Mairi’s Wedding in my youth, I was really struck by their ballad-ization of it. You could never, ever dance to their version, despite the lyrics of “step we gaily, on we go…”
The harmonies are lovely, but I didn’t get much of a sense of energy.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:52:06pm

re: #502 ObserverArt

Yeah, I like to drive the old state highways that were built by the CCC and WPA back in depression days. Most of those road beds are still in great shape and even if the pavement is getting old it doesn’t form huge holes and have dips from bad grading and fast fills without allowing it all to settle.

unless i need to “get somewhere”, i stay off the interstates and take roads less traveled

for me the whole point of motorcycle touring is to be exactly there, then.
slower, smaller, sometimes twistier roads encourage that.

i have never ridden so i could later on say “i rode past there”

though i probably have rode past there

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:53:13pm

Chinese cars?

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:54:50pm

re: #554 Dave In Austin

Chinese cars?

Must have watched a rerun of Top Gear

China’s Knockoff Cars (Top Gear)

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:55:55pm

This fucking piece of shit……

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:56:17pm

re: #510 KGxvi

I used to be a Republican, so yeah, sometimes I like to believe they still care about doing the right thing.

even after mitch gorsuched, i thought that.
up until their almost unanimous behavior this last year
i thought they’d be the check. the statesmen.

nope.
they bargained with faust for tax cuts and judges
and as more shit gets unearthed and / or flies every day they keep willingly doubling down

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:58:36pm

So I’m seeing that the TN GOP has killed a bill that would’ve outlawed child marriage. Yes…..you read that right.

thehill.com

And why, you may ask?

Well, in a nutshell, the TN GOP’s argument can be summarized thusly;

[Former state Senator David] Fowler is arguing that the Supreme Court’s ruling essentially nullified all Tennessee marriage licenses when it opened the spectrum of legal marriage beyond just between a man and a woman, The Tennessean reported.

If Tennessee were to ban child marriages by modifying state marriage law, lawmakers would be acknowledging the existence of same-sex marriage, according to Fowler’s legal theory.

or, in plain English, Fine you want gay marriage? Well then, we’re gonna let our people fuck children and animals and everything else! And this is all ON YOU PEOPLE FOR MAKING US DO THIS!!

*Jesus wept*

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:58:51pm

re: #554 Dave In Austin

Chinese cars?

Volvo S60 Inscription and Buick Envision are both made in China.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 12:59:47pm

re: #524 Anymouse 🌹

We have three. We even have a state highway (NE-92), also paved. (On a side note, state highway number 92 is the longest continuously same-numbered state highway in the country: It starts just south of Chicago and ends in Torrington, Wyo. It passes around the side of my town. I have driven it from central Iowa to Torrington.)

its time

YouTube

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:01:04pm

re: #558 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing that the TN GOP has killed a bill that would’ve outlawed child marriage. Yes…..you read that right.

thehill.com

And why, you may ask?

Well, in a nutshell, the TN GOP’s argument can be summarized thusly;

or, in plain English, Fine you want gay marriage? Well then, we’re gonna let our people fuck children and animals and everything else! And this is all ON YOU PEOPLE FOR MAKING US DO THIS!!

*Jesus wept*

The party of “personal responsibility” continuing to whine like a bunch of spoiled children that they’re no longer getting their way.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:01:13pm

Quite a bit of volatility in soybeans today:

futures.tradingcharts.com

Given there will be a tariff on Brazilian steel, I wonder if Brazil will put a tariff on American agricultural products?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:02:56pm

re: #559 goddamnedfrank

Do they sell those here?

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:03:47pm

re: #536 lawhawk

They’ve completely fucked up the functionality of the site. It’s also entirely predictable thanks to Trump’s complete incompetence.

there’s probably a backup of the whole website on floppy
dated 1/19/17

they’ll pull it out and click “restore” the day he leaves

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:05:17pm

re: #542 Targetpractice

Translation: NRA members think victims are the ones being manipulated, when a poll of non-NRA members show the exact opposite is true.

“those kids are too stupid to think for themselves”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:06:33pm

re: #563 Dave In Austin

Do they sell those here?

Yes.

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:08:40pm

Time to go bake oatmeal chocolate chip cookies for Mr. C. But you can all drop by for one if you’d like.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:08:48pm

re: #558 Dr Lizardo

According to the Wonkette article in this subject, girls as young as ten have been married and most of the girls marry much older adults. This should be a federal issue.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:08:49pm
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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:09:19pm

re: #558 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing that the TN GOP has killed a bill that would’ve outlawed child marriage. Yes…..you read that right.

thehill.com

And why, you may ask?

Well, in a nutshell, the TN GOP’s argument can be summarized thusly;

or, in plain English, Fine you want gay marriage? Well then, we’re gonna let our people fuck children and animals and everything else! And this is all ON YOU PEOPLE FOR MAKING US DO THIS!!

*Jesus wept*

kentucky too, different reasoning

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:09:42pm

re: #567 calochortus

Time to go bake oatmeal chocolate chip cookies for Mr. C. But you can all drop by for one if you’d like.

On my way!

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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:09:42pm

re: #510 KGxvi

I used to be a Republican, so yeah, sometimes I like to believe they still care about doing the right thing.

That’s really impossible to believe in, these days. I gave up voting for Republicans when I became thoroughly convinced of their absolute and total moral depravity (W Bush’s first term).

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:11:19pm

re: #569 JordanRules

Shows exactly when Trump thinks we’re going back to.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:11:25pm
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Bubblehead II  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:11:30pm

re: #562 freetoken

Quite a bit of volatility in soybeans today:

futures.tradingcharts.com

Given there will be a tariff on Brazilian steel, I wonder if Brazil will put a tariff on American agricultural products?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:12:10pm

re: #566 goddamnedfrank

Well Ok then… There is so much crap in a continuum of swirl, I can’t make heads nor tails of a lot of it any more. Maybe that’s the point. I think a lot of the tit for tat is not necessarily a bad thing. Just going to sit back and burn a fatty and fondl……. Have me a bowl of nuts.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:12:13pm


Russian State TV Host Warns ‘Traitors’ After Skripal Poisoning

Skripal is “by training, a traitor to his country,” host Kirill Kleimenov said. “I don’t wish death on anyone,” he added, “but for purely educational purposes, for anyone who dreams of such a career, I have a warning: being a traitor is one of the most dangerous professions in the world.”

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:12:14pm

my absolute favorite on the road, riding, driving, traveling track of music

YouTube

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:12:16pm

re: #571 wrenchwench

Can you swing by Arizona and pick me up?
Should we bring something?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:12:49pm

re: #533 KGxvi

So just went to the White House website to see if there was a copy of the proposed tariff orders up yet to read. They’ve redone the website and it looks a lot more like a campaign website than I can ever remember seeing before. For example, there’s now an “issues” tab at the top of the page, and when you click on it, you get sent to a page that reads much more like a campaign than a government. Also, I can’t seem to find proposed regulations, executive orders, or bills that have been sent to the president. Something seems very not right about this.

I use the White House page primarily for flag proclamations when I’m wearing my flag committee chair hat here.

Right after Trump took office, the Webpage was redesigned and made very difficult to find proclamations amongst all the news releases, self-promotion, quasi-campaign statements, &c.

While there was news releases when Mr. Obama was President, they were placed under a separate tab. Proclamations were by themselves and easy to find.

Either they are intentionally making the Website hard to use, or they can’t even get a good IT person.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:14:15pm

re: #575 Bubblehead II

Watch LIVE at President Trump signs the Section 232 Proclamations on steel and aluminum imports

has anyone seen that there’s actually words on the paper and this isnt just some photo stunt

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:14:22pm

re: #562 freetoken

Quite a bit of volatility in soybeans today:

futures.tradingcharts.com

Given there will be a tariff on Brazilian steel, I wonder if Brazil will put a tariff on American agricultural products?

There’s been some chatter that the retaliatory tariffs are going to be targeted toward red state products. Kentucky bourbon, Harley Davidsons, those sorts of things.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:14:28pm

re: #579 JordanRules

Can you swing by Arizona and pick me up?
Should we bring something?

Coffee. Some for the road, some for the cookies. Some for the cook, if there’s any left.

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JordanRules  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:14:44pm

re: #577 freetoken

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:16:08pm

re: #582 KGxvi

I would expect any retaliatory tariffs to be aimed at forcing the hands of the US in regards to steel.

That’s why I picked soybeans. The major producers besides the US are Brazil and China, both of which will get hit by the steel tariffs.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:17:43pm

re: #585 freetoken

I would expect any retaliatory tariffs to be aimed at forcing the hands of the US in regards to steel.

That’s why I picked soybeans. The major producers besides the US are Brazil and China, both of which will get hit by the steel tariffs.

Mmmm, volatile soybeans.

Must be lunchtime…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:18:25pm

re: #568 Patricia Kayden

Should be…..but then again, I’m quite sure the GOP is terrified of alienating their religious right base.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:18:42pm
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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:18:47pm

re: #585 freetoken

I would expect any retaliatory tariffs to be aimed at forcing the hands of the US in regards to steel.

That’s why I picked soybeans. The major producers besides the US are Brazil and China, both of which will get hit by the steel tariffs.

Oh, I’m sure there will be tariffs on food products as well. It’s also worth noting that the states that produce the most soybeans tend to be states that voted for Trump (Illinois and Minnesota are the only two in the top 19 that didn’t vote for Trump).

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Bubblehead II  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:19:06pm

re: #581 dangerman

has anyone seen that there’s actually words on the paper and this isnt just some photo stunt

Going to be interesting to see how long before this ends up in the Courts. Lots of manufactures out there who will not like seeing their overhead take a huge jump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:20:08pm

re: #558 Dr Lizardo

So I’m seeing that the TN GOP has killed a bill that would’ve outlawed child marriage. Yes…..you read that right.

thehill.com

And why, you may ask?

Well, in a nutshell, the TN GOP’s argument can be summarized thusly;

or, in plain English, Fine you want gay marriage? Well then, we’re gonna let our people fuck children and animals and everything else! And this is all ON YOU PEOPLE FOR MAKING US DO THIS!!

*Jesus wept*

Kentucky killed a child marriage bill last week, because churches protested in the state legislature.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:21:15pm

re: #590 Bubblehead II

Going to be interesting to see how long before this ends up in the Courts. Lots of manufactures out there who will not like seeing their overhead take take a huge jump.

It’ll end up before the WTO, and whether Trump is willing to blow up part of the international legal order we’ve spent the better part of 70 years being the driving force behind is going to be a fun…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:22:42pm

re: #576 Dave In Austin

Well Ok then… There is so much crap in a continuum of swirl, I can’t make heads nor tails of a lot of it any more. Maybe that’s the point. I think a lot of the tit for tat is not necessarily a bad thing. Just going to sit back and burn a fatty and fondl……. Have me a bowl of nuts.

The greater point is that China still buys a lot more of our cars than we do of theirs at this point. We also don’t buy that much of their steel and aluminum compared to Canadian and Mexican imports. So these tariffs don’t hit China that hard but they will hit the EU and other allies, and they are being used as blackmail agains Canada and Mexico for NAFTA concessions, which won’t play well. Lastly those countries aren’t stupid, they can and will target their retaliatory actions against US exports from areas that Trump won while also pursuing punitive damages in the WTO.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:25:07pm

re: #581 dangerman

has anyone seen that there’s actually words on the paper and this isnt just some photo stunt

There is no press scheduled for the signing at 15:30 today.

factba.se

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:25:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:25:49pm

re: #593 goddamnedfrank

The greater point is that China still buys a lot more of our cars than we do of theirs at this point. We also don’t buy that much of their steel and aluminum compared to Canadian and Mexican imports. So these tariffs don’t hit China that hard but they will hit the EU and other allies, and they are being used as blackmail agains Canada and Mexico for NAFTA concessions, which won’t play well. Lastly those countries aren’t stupid, they can and will target their retaliatory actions against US exports from areas that Trump won while also pursuing punitive damages in the WTO.

They will also target swing states (such as the EU threat against Florida citrus).

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:26:55pm

America has a god/God problem.

That, I guess, was the point of bringing up the Behar/Iger/Pence thing.

It is this very same god problem that has lead to Trump doing things like the tariff. Trump milks his marks for everything, and their too dull to realize it.

A dullness that is trained and rewarded from the pulpit.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:27:56pm

re: #592 KGxvi

It’ll end up before the WTO, and whether Trump is willing to blow up part of the international legal order we’ve spent the better part of 70 years being the driving force behind is going to be a fun…

I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of the world makes future US admission into trade associations contingent on our abolishing the Electoral College. Our erstwhile democratic allies really have an incentive now to make a glaring example out of Trump and ensure that history remembers him as an illegitimate buffoon that isolated and weakened the US.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:28:12pm

re: #597 freetoken

America has a god/God problem.

That, I guess, was the point of bringing up the Behar/Iger/Pence thing.

It is this very same god problem that has lead to Trump doing things like the tariff. Trump milks his marks for everything, and their too dull to realize it.

A dullness that is trained and rewarded from the pulpit.

Same with churches (even allegedly mainstream ones) protesting the child marriage ban bills.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:32:14pm

re: #591 Anymouse 🌹

Kentucky killed a child marriage bill last week, because churches protested in the state legislature.

yeah that one

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:32:43pm

re: #524 Anymouse 🌹

We have three. We even have a state highway (NE-92), also paved. (On a side note, state highway number 92 is the longest continuously same-numbered state highway in the country: It starts just south of Chicago and ends in Torrington, Wyo. It passes around the side of my town. I have driven it from central Iowa to Torrington.)

Longer than Route 30…The Lincoln Highway???

From Wiki page on Lincoln Highway:

The Lincoln Highway was one of the earliest transcontinental highways for automobiles across the United States of America.[1] Conceived in 1912 by Indiana entrepreneur Carl G. Fisher, and formally dedicated October 31, 1913, the Lincoln Highway ran coast-to-coast from Times Square in New York City west to Lincoln Park in San Francisco, originally through 13 states: New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, and California.

It even runs through your state ‘mouse!

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:32:49pm

re: #594 Anymouse 🌹

There is no press scheduled for the signing at 15:30 today.

factba.se

im saying it first….

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Bubblehead II  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:33:48pm
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nines09  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:34:38pm

Good afternoon early evening.

Camila Cabello - Havana ft. Young Thug

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:34:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:34:45pm

On Rick Perry and his “ending coal and oil would be bigotry against emerging nations for lighting”

gravitylight.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:36:31pm

re: #601 ObserverArt

Longer than Route 30…The Lincoln Highway???

From Wiki page on Lincoln Highway:

It even runs through your state ‘mouse!

Route 30 is a Federal highway (US-30). It generally parallels I-80. (US-30 merges with I-80 and runs concurrently with it from Pine Bluffs to Cheyenne, Wyo. Bicycles are permitted on I-80 west of Pine Bluffs, though the speed limit for cars is 80 mph.)

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:36:40pm

re: #603 Bubblehead II

[Embedded content]

that picture there is a guy who thinks paying them to surround him is the same as them wanting him

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:37:37pm

re: #593 goddamnedfrank

Thx Frank

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:38:42pm

re: #569 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

My word! What an idiot. Why make such a comment without knowing the facts?

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:39:05pm

re: #606 Anymouse 🌹

On Rick Perry and his “ending coal and oil would be bigotry against emerging nations for lighting”

gravitylight.org

brilliant (no pun….)

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:41:44pm

re: #593 goddamnedfrank

The greater point is that China still buys a lot more of our cars than we do of theirs at this point. We also don’t buy that much of their steel and aluminum compared to Canadian and Mexican imports. So these tariffs don’t hit China that hard but they will hit the EU and other allies, and they are being used as blackmail agains Canada and Mexico for NAFTA concessions, which won’t play well. Lastly those countries aren’t stupid, they can and will target their retaliatory actions against US exports from areas that Trump won while also pursuing punitive damages in the WTO.

has this kind of precision, politically based, targeting been done to the usa before?

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:48:57pm

re: #580 Anymouse 🌹

Either they are intentionally making the Website hard to use, or they can’t even get a good IT person.

I guess it’s too small potatoes for Internet Genius Brad Parscale.

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dangerman  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:50:35pm

re: #610 Patricia Kayden

My word! What an idiot. Why make such a comment without knowing the facts?

psst………………..^^^^^^

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darthstar  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:52:56pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2018 • 1:57:29pm

re: #591 Anymouse 🌹

Kentucky killed a child marriage bill last week, because churches protested in the state legislature.

Alabama is awaiting an opinion by Judge Roy Moore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2018 • 2:59:29pm

re: #522 wrenchwench

You have TWO highways? I always thought your town/county was smaller than mine, but we only have one.

my county has no US highway.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2018 • 3:31:00pm

re: #617 Backwoods_Sleuth

my county has no US highway.

You win. Or lose. I can’t keep track of the details.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2018 • 3:32:21pm

re: #618 wrenchwench

You win. Or lose. I can’t keep track of the details.

OTOH, it tends to result in a quiet environment.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2018 • 5:31:38pm

re: #535 Targetpractice

I’m pretty sure that using government resources (i.e. the White House website) to support a political campaign is highly unethical, if not outright illegal.

As Kellyanne Conway recently discovered.


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