Seth Meyers on Trump’s Unhinged Attacks on Mueller and McCabe, and the Facebook/Cambridge Analytica Scandal

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Seth takes a closer look at Trump directly attacking the special counsel in the Russia investigation and Facebook’s massive data breach.

Honestly, I’m getting more out of comedians’ analysis these days than almost any journalist or cable news show. A lot of the mainstream media coverage of this awful administration just ends up frustrating and infuriating me, because it’s so “view from nowhere.”

Comedians like Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert don’t hesitate to point out how horrible, stupid and villainous the Trump gang is, and it’s funny too. I’ll take that over another New York Times sympathetic profile of Trump supporters any day.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:30:06pm

LOL She went in on her.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:31:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:32:10pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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Trump obviously cared.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:33:06pm

From the previous thread (referring to Proton Mail):

re: #615 dangerman

and since we cant know specifically what went through the account - because of it’s very nature, using it should be enough
automatically
by itself
guilty

Nope. IV Amendment. You pass a law like that, people like me (Democrats) are the ones arrested.

Moreover, a person being elected to office does not give up his or her right to private E-mail or letters. That was the whole of the claim wingnuts were trying to make over Hillary Clinton’s “missing” E-mails (her private mail she was not required by any law to turn over).

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:33:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:33:44pm

Honestly, I’m getting more out of comedians’ analysis these days than almost any journalist or cable news show. A lot of the mainstream media coverage of this awful administration just ends up frustrating and infuriating me, because it’s so “view from nowhere.”

The comedians aren’t afraid to point out how horrible, stupid and villainous the Trump gang is.

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:34:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:36:36pm
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freetoken  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:36:51pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

It’ll be a rare thing to find a corporate media outlet really digging into the big picture of Trump.

That’s why crowdsourced ProPublica, or the Guardian, are more willing to go all in for tracking down what is really happening.

Remember, Trump was, and I presume still is, friends with Comcast/NBCU. They made millions of dollars together.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:38:25pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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I’M SO ANGRY THAT IRRELEVANT PEOPLE ARE GETTING ALL THIS ATTENTION!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:38:47pm

Got this voicemail from Bruce Rauner today. lmao

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:38:55pm
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:39:19pm

I wonder what tiny little orange thing she’s trying to take a peek at, there between her fingertips? Calls out for Photoshop skills!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:40:30pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Right, because their opinions of these people do not affect their jobs. Kimmel can trash Sarah Sanders all night and not have to worry about access or page views or any of the other shit media has to deal with.

He also doesn’t have an editor controlling him.

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freetoken  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:40:44pm

Playing Trump’s ugliness for humor is a win for comedians.

That’s why TV networks go for that.

But there isn’t much to network “news” anymore, as it seems the “news” has been relegated to specialty cable-TV channels (Fox News, MSNBC, etc.) which are mostly for confirmation bias, with an extra twist of vile on the part of Fox.

When I was growing up, watching “the news” on one of the big 3 networks was the thing one did at night.

Now, most Americans can grow up without even watching the nightly news. It’s not much of a thing anymore, compared to what it used to be. That’s why news audiences are so old.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:42:05pm
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:42:41pm

re: #15 freetoken

It’s really one of the few places where too much of a good thing has hurt.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:42:41pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:43:09pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, lol. Like putting on one of those fake mustache disguises with the nose and glasses.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:43:44pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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danarchy  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:44:36pm

re: #15 freetoken

Playing Trump’s ugliness for humor is a win for comedians.

That’s why TV networks go for that.

But there isn’t much to network “news” anymore, as it seems the “news” has been relegated to specialty cable-TV channels (Fox News, MSNBC, etc.) which are mostly for confirmation bias, with an extra twist of vile on the part of Fox.

When I was growing up watching “the news” on one of the big 3 networks was the thing one did at night.

Now, most Americans can grow up without even watching the nightly news. It’s not much of a thing anymore, compared to what it used to be. That’s why news audiences are so old.

Most of the nightly news seems to be dedicated to local weather and sports these days with a slight glossing over of the days headlines.

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nines09  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:45:10pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Someone’s jealous….

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Mike Lamb  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:46:26pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread (referring to Proton Mail):

Nope. IV Amendment. You pass a law like that, people like me (Democrats) are the ones arrested.

Moreover, a person being elected to office does not give up his or her right to private E-mail or letters. That was the whole of the claim wingnuts were trying to make over Hillary Clinton’s “missing” E-mails (her private mail she was not required by any law to turn over).

If you are using a gov’t computer, your right to use private email on that computer is significantly limited.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:47:12pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blackwater taught them well.

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:49:51pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread (referring to Proton Mail):

Nope. IV Amendment. You pass a law like that, people like me (Democrats) are the ones arrested.

Moreover, a person being elected to office does not give up his or her right to private E-mail or letters. That was the whole of the claim wingnuts were trying to make over Hillary Clinton’s “missing” E-mails (her private mail she was not required by any law to turn over).

There is an issue unique to the president and White House staff under the Presidential Records Act. Yes, they are entitled to keep private email and documents, but a lot of their documents may fall into the categories of documents that are governed by the act. The fact that they are using systems specifically designed to circumvent the law (as there’s no evidence that email or documents were archived) is very much a problem.

It is also a problem if documents are being hidden/destroyed so that a review of whether they qualify under the Act can be conducted.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:50:32pm

re: #23 Mike Lamb

If you are using a gov’t computer, your right to use private email on that computer is significantly limited.

When I was in the Navy, I never used government computers for my private E-mail.

The claim is a person working in the White House left a password for a Proton Mail account. That could mean the person is using a government computer for E-mail, or then again maybe not.

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:51:39pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I’m getting more out of comedians’ analysis these days than almost any journalist or cable news show. A lot of the mainstream media coverage of this awful administration just ends up frustrating and infuriating me, because it’s so “view from nowhere.”

The comedians aren’t afraid to point out how horrible, stupid and villainous the Trump gang is.

Honestly, I feel like that’s been the case since, at least, 2004.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:52:55pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

When I was in the Navy, I never used government computers for my private E-mail.

The claim is a person working in the White House left a password for a Proton Mail account. That could mean the person is using a government computer for E-mail, or then again maybe not.

The fact that he’s putting that email on paper with White House letterhead certainly suggests that he is using that non-gov’t email address on a gov’t computer.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:55:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 2:56:03pm

re: #25 KGxvi

There is an issue unique to the president and White House staff under the Presidential Records Act. Yes, they are entitled to keep private email and documents, but a lot of their documents may fall into the categories of documents that are governed by the act. The fact that they are using systems specifically designed to circumvent the law (as there’s no evidence that email or documents were archived) is very much a problem.

It is also a problem if documents are being hidden/destroyed so that a review of whether they qualify under the Act can be conducted.

Leaving out the issues of the Presidential Records Act, Proton Mail is not “specifically designed to circumvent the law.” It is designed to be private (unlike services like Gmail, which scan your text to feed you targeted adverts).

Is is used to circumvent the law? Probably. For a long time police and the GOP have argued that private encryption should not be allowed (presumably so they can circumvent the law, as in required to get a warrant).

Even with my wife’s server, I do not keep E-mail (though I am not a White House staffer either). Anything I am not presently working with I delete.

Mail which goes in or out of Proton Mail to another service is not encrypted - it can be read on the other end. It is only encrypted within the system.

You can set other services to auto-delete messages as well (Snapchat is famous for that).

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:00:47pm

LOL:

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:01:26pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

Leaving out the issues of the Presidential Records Act, Proton Mail is not “specifically designed to circumvent the law.” It is designed to be private (unlike services like Gmail, which scan your text to feed you targeted adverts).

Is is used to circumvent the law? Probably. For a long time police and the GOP have argued that private encryption should not be allowed (presumably so they can circumvent the law, as in required to get a warrant).

Even with my wife’s server, I do not keep E-mail (though I am not a White House staffer either). Anything I am not presently working with I delete.

Mail which goes in or out of Proton Mail to another service is not encrypted - it can be read on the other end. It is only encrypted within the system.

You can set other services to auto-delete messages as well (Snapchat is famous for that).

You cannot “leave aside” the Presidential Records Act. That is the whole point of the problem. What you and your wife do with your email has nothing to do with there PRA. What they do in the White House does.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:01:27pm
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BeachDem  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:02:56pm

re: #20 MsJ

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I’ll try this again (figured out how to reduce size—yay me)

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:03:57pm

re: #33 JordanRules

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They can’t win without cheating or bullying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:04:26pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I’m getting more out of comedians’ analysis these days than almost any journalist or cable news show. A lot of the mainstream media coverage of this awful administration just ends up frustrating and infuriating me, because it’s so “view from nowhere.”

The comedians aren’t afraid to point out how horrible, stupid and villainous the Trump gang is.

They are comedians but I stopped laughing at Trump jokes ages ago…

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:05:41pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹

Leaving out the issues of the Presidential Records Act, Proton Mail is not “specifically designed to circumvent the law.” It is designed to be private (unlike services like Gmail, which scan your text to feed you targeted adverts).

Is is used to circumvent the law? Probably. For a long time police and the GOP have argued that private encryption should not be allowed (presumably so they can circumvent the law, as in required to get a warrant).

Even with my wife’s server, I do not keep E-mail (though I am not a White House staffer either). Anything I am not presently working with I delete.

Mail which goes in or out of Proton Mail to another service is not encrypted - it can be read on the other end. It is only encrypted within the system.

You can set other services to auto-delete messages as well (Snapchat is famous for that).

The auto-delete function is the problem in this particular scenario. If this guy was using it as a private email, it’s a nothingburger beyond the fact that leaving the address and password at a bus stop is a potential personal security breach. But if staffers are using private email so they can avoid the Records Act, that’s a very big deal. I have no problem with people using encrypted email, it’s probably the smarter thing to do. I just want to make sure that they’re not violating yet another law.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:06:28pm

re: #37 KGxvi

The auto-delete function is the problem in this particular scenario. If this guy was using it as a private email, it’s a nothingburger beyond the fact that leaving the address and password at a bus stop is a potential personal security breach. But if staffers are using private email so they can avoid the Records Act, that’s a very big deal. I have no problem with people using encrypted email, it’s probably the smarter thing to do. I just want to make sure that they’re not violating yet another law.

HRC - 40,000 mails

/

forget it Jake, it’s Trumptown

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jamesfirecat  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:07:55pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I’m getting more out of comedians’ analysis these days than almost any journalist or cable news show. A lot of the mainstream media coverage of this awful administration just ends up frustrating and infuriating me, because it’s so “view from nowhere.”

The comedians aren’t afraid to point out how horrible, stupid and villainous the Trump gang is.

Comedy is only truly funny if it starts from a place of truth.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:08:27pm

re: #32 MsJ

You cannot “leave aside” the Presidential Records Act. That is the whole point of the problem. What you and your wife do with your email has nothing to do with there PRA. What they do in the White House does.

I meant in the context of our discussion, not in the context of the President and his staff.

Even in the context of him and his staff, they are permitted to delete or otherwise dispose of records which are not relevant (after the Chief Archivist reviews them), and requires staff to use private non-governmental means for personal communications (Proton Mail would qualify for that).

en.wikipedia.org (details of what’s required to be saved and what is exempt under that act)

There is also the aptly-named COVFEFE Act introduced last year to preserve social media postings in the same manner the PRA requires it for other documentation. As of yet it has not passed.

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:08:48pm

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

HRC - 40,000 mails

/

forget it Jake, it’s Trumptown

Maybe it’s a generational thing, but it really seems like the smart/right thing to do is archive all the email or at least have the Archivist go through everything to make sure what is public and what is private.

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calochortus  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:11:04pm

re: #41 KGxvi

Maybe it’s a generational thing, but it really seems like the smart/right thing to do is archive all the email or at least have the Archivist go through everything to make sure what is public and what is private.

Can you imagine a more mind-numbing job than going through somebody’s emails?

All of somebody’s emails?

edit for formatting error

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:11:35pm

re: #34 BeachDem

I’ll try this again (figured out how to reduce size—yay me)

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That makes my head spin.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:12:07pm

Does anyone use Filemakerpro anymore?

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:12:45pm

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Comedy is only truly funny if it starts from a place of truth.

A long time ago, telling truth to power was the prerogative of court fools. It’s not a good sign that the US seems to be slipping back into that pattern.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:13:10pm

re: #41 KGxvi

Maybe it’s a generational thing, but it really seems like the smart/right thing to do is archive all the email or at least have the Archivist go through everything to make sure what is public and what is private.

You then might be left with the issue of an archivist who releases personal and private mail (IV Amendment again).

A person who runs for and wins an office does give up a lot of privacy voluntarily, but that would suggest taking all of it. “I’m sorry Sir, you are not secure in your private papers as President, you’re not even allowed to have them.”

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Kragar  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:13:47pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:13:51pm

How do you deal with this level of willful stupidity?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:15:09pm

re: #41 KGxvi

Maybe it’s a generational thing, but it really seems like the smart/right thing to do is archive all the email or at least have the Archivist go through everything to make sure what is public and what is private.

Agree but I imagine that email arbiter zombie would be a seriously crap job.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:17:33pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Does anyone use Filemakerpro anymore?

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dangerman  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:17:51pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread (referring to Proton Mail):

Nope. IV Amendment. You pass a law like that, people like me (Democrats) are the ones arrested.

Moreover, a person being elected to office does not give up his or her right to private E-mail or letters. That was the whole of the claim wingnuts were trying to make over Hillary Clinton’s “missing” E-mails (her private mail she was not required by any law to turn over).

im expressing myself poorly because i agree with you
you dont give up your rights when you get elected to office
and i believe public officials should be held to the standard of “appearance of impropriety”

if it even appears you even once, washed official business through your personal account, and didnt maintain the same full control for posterity that you would with your official account, you are toast

its the nature of the information taht should be the guide, not the isp it went through

so when i read:

which we now know Cambridge Analytica recommended to its clients because the accounts could be set to autodelete messages

it tells me they were not using it for private, personal email purposes

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:19:45pm

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Hey James! How’s it?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:20:58pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

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uh?

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wrenchwench  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:21:01pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

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How do you deal with this level of willful stupidity?

Not as well as you just did.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:24:16pm

So, Illinois has a primary today. Any other elections going on today that anyone is aware of?

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jamesfirecat  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:25:02pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Hey James! How’s it?

Decent enough, watching through Game of Thrones with my family (or at least my brother and mom as my dad has decided against it also post spoilers and I will downding and report you), I still read this place fairly frequently just don’t feel the need to comment as much since my left of center position has pretty much become the norm here…

If only could say the same about the people who made up our government.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:25:25pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

New York City’s violent crime rate is considerably lower than, say, Lubbock’s. This is even without all the natural hazards to life and limb in the latter; feral hogs, diseased rabbits, howling dust storms and, soon to arrive, blistering dry desert heat. On the off chance that it does rain, you can add flash floods to the list. NYC does have a coyote though. It lives in Central Park and obviously infiltrated across one of the bridges. Survivors, coyotes. That’s why I like them so much.

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:25:31pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

You then might be left with the issue of an archivist who releases personal and private mail (IV Amendment again).

A person who runs for and wins an office does give up a lot of privacy voluntarily, but that would suggest taking all of it. “I’m sorry Sir, you are not secure in your private papers” as President, you’re not even allowed to have them.

The Presidential Records Act defines private papers. The issue here is how do we determine what is private and what is public. Because the public papers belong to us, not to the president. A review that says, “this is private, we aren’t maintaining/releasing a copy” or “this is a public record and we will maintain a copy according to law” seems like a no brainer.

It’s not a problem when you have someone trustworthy in office. But it’s much more of a problem when you have someone who either likes to play in the grey areas of the law or simply doesn’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:28:06pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

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How do you deal with this level of willful stupidity?

You can’t.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:28:08pm

re: #51 dangerman

Well, we do have all that Ethics Oversight that only applies to Democrats.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:29:08pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

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How do you deal with this level of willful stupidity?

Cut her a break. They hide that kind of information in books.

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dangerman  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:29:16pm

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Comedy is only truly funny if it starts from a place of truth.

Two muffins were sitting in an oven.
One turned to the other and said “Hey, it’s pretty hot in here, isn’t it?”
The other turned and shouted “Oh my god a talking muffin!”

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:29:50pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

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How do you deal with this level of willful stupidity?

A 2x4 across the back of the head?

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Mike Lamb  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:30:01pm

re: #47 Kragar

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Apparently pops never taught junior not to lead with your chin…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:32:10pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

uh?

Ghosts probably still use it. I had to use it many years ago for an old job, did not like it.

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:33:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:33:24pm

Canada now officially investigating Facebook:

priv.gc.ca
(Privacy Commissioner of Canada)

GATINEAU, QC, March 20, 2018 - The Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada has opened an investigation related to recent media reports regarding alleged unauthorized access and use of Facebook user profiles.

“We have received a complaint against Facebook in relation to allegations involving Cambridge Analytica and have therefore opened a formal investigation,” says Commissioner Daniel Therrien. “The first step will be to confirm with the company whether the personal information of Facebook users in Canada was affected.”

The investigation will examine Facebook’s compliance with Canada’s federal private sector privacy law, the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA).

“The allegations we’ve seen in media reports raise extremely important privacy questions. The digital world, and social media in particular, have become entrenched in our daily lives and people want their rights to be respected.”

The UK Information Commissioner’s Office has an ongoing related investigation.

“We will remain in contact with the UK office and will work with other data protection authorities as appropriate. Ultimately, our goal is to ensure that the privacy rights of Canadian Facebook users are protected,” says Commissioner Therrien.

(more)

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:34:04pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow!! I was suspicious of Nix’s suspension but had no idea that CA was a shell company. There is so much to process with this regime. My head is hurting.

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danarchy  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:36:17pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Does anyone use Filemakerpro anymore?

I have a few clients that still use it. I do some admin work on it but am not particularly fluent in it’s day to day use.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:38:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:38:30pm

re: #68 Patricia Kayden

Wow!! I was suspicious of Nix’s suspension but had no idea that CA was a shell company. There is so much to process with this regime. My head is hurting.

Remember all the Illuminati controlling the world’s governments derp from conservative conspiranuts? Turns out that was projection, too.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:39:46pm

re: #47 Kragar

Is Flynn Jr. in some kind of La La Land? He must think we’re all deranged. His dad had to sell his house to pay for his legal fees. Who is Jr. fooling? And he better watch it given his dirty behavior during the election cycle as well.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:43:21pm

re: #63 KGxvi

A 2x4 across the back of the head?

Clue by c4.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:43:36pm

From the previous thread:

re: #617 Eventual Carrion

And my proposal to rename “April Fools Day” to “Louie Gohmert Day” has never even come to a vote.

Plenty of Christians call it “Atheist Day” (in reference to the Proverbs verse), but since it Easter falls on that day this year I’m guessing I won’t be getting a lot of derp in my E-mail over that this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:44:24pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:46:33pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From the ashes?

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thecommodore  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:47:04pm

Ralph Peters, a go to wingnut on Fox “News,” has jumped ship.

An “Ashamed” Fox News Commentator Just Quit The “Propaganda Machine”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:48:56pm

re: #47 Kragar

So stupid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:49:59pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But that’s the night I wash my hair!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:50:32pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:51:11pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:51:31pm

re: #55 MsJ

So, Illinois has a primary today. Any other elections going on today that anyone is aware of?

Yes: IL-3, a primary against Rep. Lipinski. He is a Democrat who did things like refuse to endorse President Obama for reëlection and voted for a twenty-week abortion ban.

His challenger is Marie Newman, a much more progressive candidate.

Details:
dailykos.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:52:17pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

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How do you deal with this level of willful stupidity?

Hope she does’t mind me “butting in” with some assistance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:52:44pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown Dana Loesch.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:54:02pm

re: #69 danarchy

I have a few clients that still use it. I do some admin work on it but am not particularly fluent in it’s day to day use.

Thanks. Just got a new construction program someone made in Filepro.

Wondering if it’s a joke!

Old dog, hate new tricks.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 3:54:48pm

re: #77 thecommodore

He spent a decade whipping the Faux informed into a frenzy about how Obama was apologizing to the world, undermining US power, and stood by while the GOP obstructed everything Obama did in the name of party.

Guess that Fox going completely Russia agitprop was a bridge too far?

He helped enable a climate that made Russia palatable to the GOP and weaponized Fox viewers by putting this stuff out there for years on end. Hannity was spewing nonsense for a decade about Obama, attacking everything from the suit color to choice of burger condiments all while ignoring that the GOP was violating comity and basic norms of Congressional operation. Or worse, the Fox talking heads approved of the blatant obstructionism because their racism and hate was barely contained.

Trump has seen all of this unleashed and now Peters is jumping ship.

Had Peters been a good analyst, he would have called out Trump and Trumpworld when he entered the race. Or lied about his Russia connections, or when he equated Nazis with the people protesting them.

Fox continues standing by Trump no matter what, and that includes Fox Business, which misinforms their viewers almost as badly as the regular network does.

Straight news? Everything is done with a pro Trump/pro GOP slant, and that’s why Hannity gets eyeballs when the regular news doesn’t.

Peters didn’t jump ship when Hannity was spewing conspiracy theories about Seth Rich.

It took until now.

I’m not impressed.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:00:43pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

TUNE-IN: @Comey joins @Maddow live one-on-one for ~THE INTERVIEW~ April 19th at 9pmET on @MSNBC.

4:37 PM - Mar 20, 2018
884

I’m surprised Comey would go on MSNBC what with the confirmation bias and all.

But then, he can balance that all out by doing Fox News.

Bases covered.

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Jack Burton  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:01:46pm

re: #83 GlutenFreeJesus

Hope she does’t mind me “butting in” with some assistance.

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Yeah but it’s full of liberal brown people so it won’t matter to this clown.

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:02:42pm
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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:02:48pm

re: #77 thecommodore

Ralph Peters, a go to wingnut on Fox “News,” has jumped ship.

An “Ashamed” Fox News Commentator Just Quit The “Propaganda Machine”

I finally remembered where I knew him from - he wrote a couple of bad futuristic military fiction novels. Red Army was ok, but he went deep end with “The War In 2020” - rearmed Japan, Islamic Superstate, the US weakened by not buying the latest and greatest weapons and our Apache’s and Abrams being slaughtered by super weapons, Israel nuked out of existence and it goes down hill from there.

My guess is this leopard hasn’t changed his spots in any way shape or form but is probably freaking out at Trump’s love affair with Comrade Putin against America and it took this long to get fed up. He still rage hates Obama & the Clintons, I guarantee but he now has added Trump to his internal traitors list.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:03:26pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck you very much Dana.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:03:41pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Remember all the Illuminati controlling the world’s governments derp from conservative conspiranuts? Turns out that was projection, too.

Isn’t it always?

Always.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:05:10pm

re: #86 lawhawk

He spent a decade whipping the Faux informed into a frenzy about how Obama was apologizing to the world, undermining US power, and stood by while the GOP obstructed everything Obama did in the name of party.

Guess that Fox going completely Russia agitprop was a bridge too far?

He helped enable a climate that made Russia palatable to the GOP and weaponized Fox viewers by putting this stuff out there for years on end. Hannity was spewing nonsense for a decade about Obama, attacking everything from the suit color to choice of burger condiments all while ignoring that the GOP was violating comity and basic norms of Congressional operation. Or worse, the Fox talking heads approved of the blatant obstructionism because their racism and hate was barely contained.

Trump has seen all of this unleashed and now Peters is jumping ship.

Had Peters been a good analyst, he would have called out Trump and Trumpworld when he entered the race. Or lied about his Russia connections, or when he equated Nazis with the people protesting them.

Fox continues standing by Trump no matter what, and that includes Fox Business, which misinforms their viewers almost as badly as the regular network does.

Straight news? Everything is done with a pro Trump/pro GOP slant, and that’s why Hannity gets eyeballs when the regular news doesn’t.

Peters didn’t jump ship when Hannity was spewing conspiracy theories about Seth Rich.

It took until now.

I’m not impressed.

My thoughts exactly. No sympathy for Peters.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:07:12pm

re: #77 thecommodore

Ralph Peters, a go to wingnut on Fox “News,” has jumped ship.

An “Ashamed” Fox News Commentator Just Quit The “Propaganda Machine”

I see he is shocked that the right-wing propaganda network he helped build is being used to spread right-wing propaganda. Or, as I like to call it, he’s “Going Shapiro”.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:07:20pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

Yes: IL-3, a primary against Rep. Lipinski. He is a Democrat who did things like refuse to endorse President Obama for reëlection and voted for a twenty-week abortion ban.

His challenger is Marie Newman, a much more progressive candidate.

Details:
dailykos.com

That’s the only election today?

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BeachDem  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:08:38pm

re: #43 MsJ

That makes my head spin.

Reducing the size made it postable but hard to read—here’s a link (will probably still make your head swim, but readable)

medium.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:09:21pm

re: #95 MsJ

That’s the only election today?

Nope. State-wide primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:09:48pm

re: #94 Ace-o-aces

I see he is shocked that the right-wing propaganda network he helped build is being used to spread right-wing propaganda. Or, as I like to call it, he’s “Going Shapiro”.

Yep Ben like Peters is shocked that there was gambling in this establishment.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:09:52pm

So this school shooter. Did he have a pistol or rifle? Do we even know?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:11:26pm

From the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Pa. Republican state legislator moves to impeach four state Supreme Court justices

HARRISBURG — One day after federal courts declined to block the new congressional map from taking effect, a Republican state representative introduced resolutions to impeach the four Democrats on Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court who ruled to impose the map in time for the May 15 primary.
Pa. Gerrymandering Case

Rep. Cris Dush, of Jefferson County, introduced the measures against Justices Christine Donohue, Kevin Dougherty, Debra Todd, and David Wecht.

(more)

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:12:32pm

re: #96 BeachDem

Reducing the size made it postable but hard to read—here’s a link (will probably still make your head swim, but readable)

medium.com

It still makes my head spin, but thanks!!)

And I can’t express how sad and angry (really, really fucking angry) this whole thing makes me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:12:40pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

From the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Pa. Republican state legislator moves to impeach four state Supreme Court justices

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I missed where in PA’s Constitution that you can’t ruke against Republicans.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:13:04pm

re: #99 GlutenFreeJesus

“Authorities say Austin Wyatt Rollins, armed with a handgun, shot a female and a male student.”
cnn.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:13:22pm

re: #95 MsJ

That’s the only election today?

There are several:

ballotpedia.org (Ill. Primaries)

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:13:24pm

re: #97 GlutenFreeJesus

Nope. State-wide primaries.

All states? I’m trying to see how many elections (primaries) were looking at.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:14:47pm

re: #105 MsJ

Ohhh… Thought you meant just IL. I think there are more states with elections today too.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:15:51pm

re: #103 jaunte

“Authorities say Austin Wyatt Rollins, armed with a handgun, shot a female and a male student.”
cnn.com

Ok I missed that. I bet if that kid had an AR/similar weapon, the news would be a lot different.

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:16:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:16:35pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

I missed where in PA’s Constitution that you can’t ruke against Republicans.

legis.state.pa.us

Like the US Constitution, impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one.

In Penna., the House impeaches and the Senate convicts. If there are sufficient votes in the Senate, that’s it.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:17:05pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

There are several:

ballotpedia.org (Ill. Primaries)

So only Illinois?

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:18:50pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

Actually Filemaker Pro is used extensively in my office, but I’m just a dumb user who cannot answer any questions about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:20:00pm

re: #110 MsJ

So only Illinois?

I can only find a millage measure up for consideration in Sarasota, Fla. outside of the Illinois Primary.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:22:21pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

Yep Ben like Peters is shocked that there was gambling in this establishment.

They just want their GOP propaganda to be more believable. The Baghdad Bob atmosphere at Fox News these days bothers them.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:24:47pm

Trump refuses to listen to anyone that tells him what he doesn’t want to hear.

Trump refuses to act against Russian aggression.

Trump refuses to criticize anything Russia does.

There’s a pattern here.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:24:52pm

I suspect that the sheer number of Trump’s extra-marital affairs may eventually become a scandal by itself.

My guess is that it is easily in the dozens, and I’d love to see the RWNJ preachers try to spin that level of scandal.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:26:16pm

re: #114 lawhawk

As it turns out, once the GOP had decided to sell out the nation to serve the Koch brothers et al., it was just a tiny further step to sell out the nation to Russian oligarchs.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:27:36pm

re: #114 lawhawk

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Trump refuses to listen to anyone that tells him what he doesn’t want to hear.

Trump refuses to act against Russian aggression.

Trump refuses to criticize anything Russia does.

There’s a pattern here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:30:44pm

dailykos.com

On the impeachment bill in the Penna. House, Daily Kos notes that due to the existing gerrymandered nature of the Penna. statehouse, the GOP can obtain impeachments without a single Democratic vote.

In the House, the GOP is in the majority. (Three seats are vacant.)

In the Senate, the divide is 34-16. That’s enough to convict.

The GOP rep in question is using the same argument the GOP used in the case: The Supreme Court of Penna. overstepped its constitutional bounds to infringe on the prerogatives of the state legislature.

Several Democrats in the House are on record saying this is an outrageous abuse of power by the House if they go through with this, but the state constitution says that the House determines whether someone should be removed (and it doesn’t have to be for a crime).

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:31:30pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

I love how they think that independence means can’t provide a check and balance.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:32:33pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

I suspect that the sheer number of Trump’s extra-marital affairs may eventually become a scandal by itself.

My guess is that it is easily in the dozens, and I’d love to see the RWNJ preachers try to spin that level of scandal.

They already have. He’s forgiven. That’s really all it takes in Evangelical Christianity.

Obama was Satan though, and Hillary Clinton was too (because “Methodist” doesn’t scan quite as well.)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:33:36pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

I suspect that the sheer number of Trump’s extra-marital affairs may eventually become a scandal by itself.

My guess is that it is easily in the dozens, and I’d love to see the RWNJ preachers try to spin that level of scandal.

Only when there are pictures available, and even then they’d find some way to wave away the evidence. Trump would have to have been photographed with a young boy in flagrante delicto to get them to reject him.

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nines09  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:34:01pm

re: #86 lawhawk

Almost like he grew a conscience….or considered what his legacy would be…..Or maybe money isn’t the only thing….
OK. I’m tripping.
Na.
Don’t care.
Had your chance. Seeded that garden. Watered it. Ate its fruit. Laughed. Enjoyed the warmth it brought. And the money.
Guess what?
Bring me a head or fuck off.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:35:09pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

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This is officially my 23 WTF?!?! of the day.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:37:42pm

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

This is officially my 23 WTF?!?! of the day.

Trump is running the nation like the unhinged CEO of a family company. The only advice he accepts is from his own head, and maybe from Ivanka. It explains why so many of his ventures have failed miserably.

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:37:56pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

I missed where in PA’s Constitution that you can’t ruke against Republicans.

It’s that part where everyone acknowledges that impeachment isn’t a legal process but a political one. This is the danger of that way of thinking.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:44:00pm

re: #125 KGxvi

It’s that part where everyone acknowledges that impeachment isn’t a legal process but a political one. This is the danger of that way of thinking.

People are apparently going to have to learn the hard way that voting for Republicans is voting to end democracy. If so, it’s best that this happen at the state level first.

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retired cynic  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:44:43pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Does anyone use Filemakerpro anymore?

Yes.

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KGxvi  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:44:47pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

legis.state.pa.us

Like the US Constitution, impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one.

In Penna., the House impeaches and the Senate convicts. If there are sufficient votes in the Senate, that’s it.

I really dislike the notion that impeachment is simply a political process. It is incredibly dangerous to our system of government. This isn’t a vote of no confidence similar to parliamentary systems. There is a reason the federal constitution says things like “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “for good behavior.” Using impeachment to remove someone because you disagree with their policy or jurisprudence is not the standard we should be setting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:49:02pm

re: #128 KGxvi

I really dislike the notion that impeachment is simply a political process. It is incredibly dangerous to our system of government. This isn’t a vote of no confidence similar to parliamentary systems. There is a reason the federal constitution says things like “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “for good behavior.” Using impeachment to remove someone because you disagree with their policy or jurisprudence is not the standard we should be setting.

I agree, but that’s the way it’s applied.

The question of “high crimes and misdemeanors” however is somewhat vague, since it is generally assumed you cannot convict a sitting President of a crime (though I am not sure that’s been tested). The standard seems to be if there was a crime, he could be charged after removal. Hence, the “political” aspect.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:51:57pm

re: #128 KGxvi

I really dislike the notion that impeachment is simply a political process. It is incredibly dangerous to our system of government. This isn’t a vote of no confidence similar to parliamentary systems. There is a reason the federal constitution says things like “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “for good behavior.” Using impeachment to remove someone because you disagree with their policy or jurisprudence is not the standard we should be setting.

Do Republicans have standards of political conduct anymore? I’d say they have been missing since at least the George W BuSh days. Maybe even Ronnie Reagan with Iran Contra.

Once they discovered they could get away with their crap in plain sight they have gone all in on every level of government.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:52:30pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Our long lasting illusions about the things that “could not happen here” are forever shattered and lying in shiny sharp bits on the ground.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:55:31pm

re: #124 wheat-dogg

Trump is running the nation like the unhinged CEO of a family company. The only advice he accepts is from his own head, and maybe from Ivanka. It explains why so many of his ventures have failed miserably.

He doesn’t know how to run a company, considering that any company he has owned (other than Daddy’s properties) has failed miserably.

He played a CEO on a reality TV show.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:57:00pm
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scottslemmons  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:57:13pm

Off-topic, but you’ve finally got an excuse to start up your old D&D campaign again: character stats for Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeouf.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:59:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 4:59:57pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

Do Republicans have standards of political conduct anymore? I’d say they have been missing since at least the George W BuSh days. Maybe even Ronnie Reagan with Iran Contra.

Once they discovered they could get away with their crap in plain sight they have gone all in on every level of government.

They never have in my lifetime. The issue is not “Republicans,” the issue is “conservatives.” In that light, they supported the Crown in the Revolution, the Civil War, Jim Crow, the Klan, &c.

My first political knowledge about a Republican president was Richard Nixon. FOX News is an outgrowth of Roger Ailes working for him. When Nixon went through the Saturday Night Massacre, Robert Bork was promised a shot at the Supreme Court by the GOP. When Reagan took over, that was his nomination.

Conservatives have been at this a long time. (Go all the way back to Federalist John Adams trying to pack a whole bunch of newly-created court seats and other offices, which resulted in Marbury v Madison).

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:00:10pm

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

He doesn’t know how to run a company, considering that any company he has owned (other than Daddy’s properties) has failed miserably.

He played a CEO on a reality TV show.

And that is the only exposure his believers have had to the Business Genius of Donald Trump™.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:00:53pm

re: #135 lawhawk

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Or marijuana or anything that isn’t line with Trump. Ryan is a lying pos who should lose his job.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:02:43pm
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dangerman  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:03:40pm

has anyone else seen this:

In Maryland, it wasn’t immediately clear whether the shooter took his own life or was killed by the officer’s bullet, St. Mary’s County Sheriff Tim Cameron said, but the officer was credited with preventing any more loss of life.

would change the narrative a bit wouldnt it?

say this one:

School resource officer Blaine Gaskill helped stop gunman at a Maryland high school

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wheat-dogg  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:04:20pm

Don’t know if this news has popped up stateside.

US unlikely to meet Beijing’s request to name a ‘point person’ for trade war talks

Dizzying speed of White House staff turnover makes it difficult for Trump’s administration to name a US interlocutor for talks on averting all-out trade conflict

The US is unlikely to meet China’s request that it name a point person to help set the agenda for a bilateral dialogue aimed at averting a trade war between the world’s two largest economies, analysts and sources said.

scmp.com

The request was formally made in February.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:09:04pm

Just took a look at the weather maps.

I am resigned to the snow gods for another day.

So far it is sweeping north of central Ohio…but I can see that big patch of blue coming. Ugh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:13:30pm

Florida School Shooting Causes Copycat Threats Across Canada (goes to Huffington Post Canada)

Five tweens and teens have been charged with threatening schools on social media, Ontario’s provincial police said Tuesday as they reported a “spike” in online threats following a deadly school shooting in Florida last month.

Sgt. Peter Leon said officers conducted six separate investigations in the province’s central division, starting shortly after the Feb. 14 massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., in which 14 students and three teachers were killed.

“We started to see a spike in them,” Leon said of the online threats. “Unfortunately, when events take place south of the border … we do start to see situations present themselves here in Ontario.”

Five people between the ages of 12 and 17 were charged with uttering threats. Four of the five were students at the schools they’re accused of threatening and the other was a former student, Leon said. Police did not arrest a sixth because the person was too young to face charges.

(more)

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BeachDem  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:22:18pm

Not sure what to make of this, but hmmm (Wendy Siegelman is the one who creates those mind-blowing flowcharts about Cambridge Analytica et al.)

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:23:32pm

re: #140 dangerman

has anyone else seen this:

would change the narrative a bit wouldnt it?

say this one:

School resource officer Blaine Gaskill helped stop gunman at a Maryland high school

Doesn’t change the fact that one kid is dead and two injured, one critically.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:27:35pm
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mmmirele  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:27:49pm

Another explosion in Austin, at a Goodwill located at Brodie Ln and West Slaughter. That’s in south Austin. The location is also about 3 miles southwest of the FedEx location where there was a suspicious parcel earlier.

Catch this person!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:27:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:28:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:29:23pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

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He’s such a hypocritical pos.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:29:24pm

Ringo Starr awarded knighthood for his contributions to music. He says “he’ll wear his medal to breakfast.”

The Duke of Cambridge gave him the award at Buckingham Palace.

bbc.com

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:29:25pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

There’s a goddamned tweet for every single situation now facing the nation.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:32:13pm

re: #152 lawhawk

There’s a goddamned tweet for every single situation now facing the nation.

Yeahbutt, Trump doesn’t watch March Madness basketball. He plays golf.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:33:10pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

So after the Judges are impeached, what happens next? Are the judicial vacancies then up to a vote by Pennsylvanians?

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:33:13pm

re: #152 lawhawk

There’s a goddamned tweet for every single situation now facing the nation.

I wonder if there’s one about Obama and porn stars.

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dangerman  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:33:49pm

re: #145 Belafon

Doesn’t change the fact that one kid is dead and two injured, one critically.

of course not
it does change the rush to reporting how ‘successful’ the response was

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:35:47pm

A BBC investigation of YouTube uncovered ninety-nine neo-Nazi songs and one channel promoting violence. They brought the issue to the attention of YouTube, which the BBC said inconsistently applied its standards.

bbc.com

Seven videos were taken down and forty-seven more were only banned for viewing in countries with hate-speech or anti-Nazi symbol laws.

YouTube’s rules specifically prohibit promoting violence or slurs against groups.

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dangerman  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:37:51pm

Trump’s national security advisers warned him not to congratulate Putin. He did it anyway.

President Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers when he congratulated Russian President Vladi­mir Putin Tuesday on his reelection, including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating “DO NOT CONGRATULATE,” according to officials familiar with the call.

Trump also chose not to heed talking points from aides instructing him to condemn Putin about the recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in the United Kingdom with a powerful nerve agent, a case that both the British and U.S. governments have blamed on Moscow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:39:36pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

So after the Judges are impeached, what happens next? Are the judicial vacancies then up to a vote by Pennsylvanians?

Voters only vote to “retain” or “reject” every ten years judges already on the bench. Voters vote for open seats.

ballotpedia.org

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Kragar  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:40:31pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:45:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:47:15pm
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DodgerFan1988  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:49:06pm

Only a matter of time before the Alt-Right and Trump cult followers call Ralph Peters part of the Deep State Conspiracy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:49:44pm

re: #160 Kragar

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Yawn Ari. This bothers you but not POTUS enabling Putin? FO.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:50:03pm

The BBC reports that the Federal Trade Commission is opening an investigation on Facebook.

bbc.com

They also note Facebook’s CEO and his deputy were both absent from a staff meeting at their headquarters, saying they were too busy to address the staff directly.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:50:08pm

re: #146 lawhawk

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Southwest again. I wonder if the perp put the bomb in a donation box?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:51:07pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:52:51pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

Yawn Ari. This bothers you but not POTUS enabling Putin? FO.

Well, calling out racism is worse than being racist, soooo….

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:54:22pm

Fuck. Another bombing in Austin.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:55:03pm

Fucking A. SIL is a block away from the goodwill where the latest bomb went off… at my niece’s high school (niece is home safe) and she’s on lock down and can’t go anywhere.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:55:04pm
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:55:10pm

re: #155 Belafon

No, but there’s one about Rep Anthony Weiner…

And we all know and fear that Trump’s really projecting his own actions ….

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:57:02pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait until the clapping starts.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:58:09pm

I am not a fan of humans in general. I agree with Bill Hicks’ assessment, we’re a virus with shoes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:58:23pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:58:35pm

re: #163 DodgerFan1988

Only a matter of time before the Alt-Right and Trump cult followers call Ralph Peters part of the Deep State Conspiracy.

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Like tonight maybe?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 20, 2018 • 5:59:32pm

I’m out for a nap … catch ya later… .

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:01:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:05:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:06:00pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Exactly, thank you Jim.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:07:09pm

SO tired of this dishonest “Democrats don’t stand for anything” bullshit from people who haven’t yet learned learned how to politically walk AND chew gum.

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:07:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:07:39pm

re: #182 Citizen K

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Nah too much work.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:07:52pm

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹

dailykos.com

On the impeachment bill in the Penna. House, Daily Kos notes that due to the existing gerrymandered nature of the Penna. statehouse, the GOP can obtain impeachments without a single Democratic vote.

In the House, the GOP is in the majority. (Three seats are vacant.)

In the Senate, the divide is 34-16. That’s enough to convict.

The GOP rep in question is using the same argument the GOP used in the case: The Supreme Court of Penna. overstepped its constitutional bounds to infringe on the prerogatives of the state legislature.

Several Democrats in the House are on record saying this is an outrageous abuse of power by the House if they go through with this, but the state constitution says that the House determines whether someone should be removed (and it doesn’t have to be for a crime).

This is absolutely terrifying — this is the way to single party rule. Republicans are clearly all fond of dictatorships.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:09:16pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:11:11pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

SO tired of this dishonest “Democrats don’t stand for anything” bullshit from people who haven’t yet learned learned how to politically walk AND chew gum.

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Bernie’s right in what he says, but you’re more right in that the vision has been articulated and will continue to be. There is actually a more coherent democrat view of policy than republican.

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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:11:58pm

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

SO tired of this dishonest “Democrats don’t stand for anything” bullshit from people who haven’t yet learned learned how to politically walk AND chew gum.

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Because Bernie is as racist as Trump but has better visuals overall.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:12:20pm

re: #186 Barefoot Grin

Bernie’s right in what he says, but you’re more right in that the vision has been articulated and will continue to be. There is actually a more coherent democrat view of policy than republican.

And Sanders ignores that because he has his own agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:14:16pm
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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:14:40pm

Mississippi has among the worst health outcomes in the nation for women. By every metric, Mississippi lags the region and the nation for health coverage generally.

It’s worst in the nation for child well being.

Pretty much every metric you apply in Mississippi shows the state is awful, and the GOP is making it worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:14:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:18:58pm

O_o

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:19:41pm

Betsey hates state’s rights if it will protect students from loan sharks

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:20:03pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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America in 2018. Sighs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:21:11pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:21:20pm

re: #186 Barefoot Grin

There is actually a more coherent democrat view of policy than republican.

I’m on an email list of a gal running for U.S. Congress in my congressional district (CO 3rd), name’s Diane Mitsch Bush. She running against Scott Tipton, who is a Trump fucker through and through. He’s been my congressman for seven years and he’s all about the NRA and a host of other GOP destroy-government-at-all-costs mantra. Diane is campaigning on *issues.* Her emails, tweets, newspaper articles, speeches, she speaks in favor of women’s rights with an emphasis on abortion rights every chance she gets. She talks about strengthening the ACA and finding ways to fund more mental health care. She’s all about getting broadband internet to rural communities in the 3rd district (which, in some places, is *very* rural, what some call the boonies I guess, but way more boony) and she talks about it constantly in her campaigning.

She’s got my vote.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:22:24pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

I’m on an email list of a gal running for U.S. Congress in my congressional district (CO 3rd), name’s Diane Mitsch Bush. She running against Scott Tipton, who is a Trump fucker through and through. He’s been my congressman for seven years and he’s all about the NRA and a host of other GOP destroy-government-at-all-costs mantra. Diane is campaigning on *issues.* Her emails, tweets, newspaper articles, speeches, she speaks in favor of women’s rights with an emphasis on abortion rights every chance she gets. She talks about strengthening the ACA and finding ways to fund more mental health care. She’s all about getting broadband internet to rural communities in the 3rd district (which, in some places, is *very* rural, what some call the boonies I guess, but way more boony) and she talks about it constantly in her campaigning.

She’s got my vote.

Too bad Sanders ignores people like her because there’s a lot like her running.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:23:14pm

oh

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:24:30pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good, bad, indifferent?

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:24:43pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:24:55pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

If Bernie Sanders ever wanted to go skiing with me, I’d take him to some line that was cliffed out in one direction and very difficult deep snow egress in another direction, and I would say “have fun getting out of here” and just leave him there. The contempt I have for that man is pretty deep.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:26:05pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

If Bernie Sanders ever wanted to go skiing with me, I’d take him to some line that was cliffed out in one direction and very difficult deep snow egress in another direction, and I would say “have fun getting out of here” and just leave him there. The contempt I have for that man is pretty deep.

I have no respect for him at all. Used to but his actions changed that.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:27:04pm

Heh, Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro has some cool purple/blue streaks in her hair.

I bet that drives some other congress folk crazy. I imagine Betsy is shocked that a female member of congress would present herself like this.

Betsy is all prim and proper and godly and an unmitigated disaster as education policy person. Betsy is ugly.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:27:08pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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Mattis is toast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:28:42pm

re: #199 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Good, bad, indifferent?

feel a bit queasy about it, actually.

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:29:29pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:29:47pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

feel a bit queasy about it, actually.

Care to explain? Not knowing a whole lot about the politics of the southern Midwest after moving out, aside from the fact that Pence was/is a complete and utter jackass, I’m curious.

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bratwurst  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:29:52pm

Anyone interested in following the primary results here in Illinois can check out the Sun-Times results page.

Unfortunately, it seems nearly certain we are stuck with J.B. Pritzker as the Democratic gubernatorial nominee.

This puts me in a bad position: I think it is disqualifying for political candidates like Mitt Romney and our current governor Bruce Rauner to have significant offshore holdings. Pritzker’s offshore money is actually worse than the others, turning up in the Paradise Papers.

Of course, Pritzker went on to lie about the age of these accounts.

I do not think I can vote for him.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:30:23pm

re: #206 lawhawk

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So, a copycat bomber, then. Lovely!

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:31:12pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leave it to Republicans to celebrate the death of a child, regardless of his intentions.

A death by a law officer is a failure of the system.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:31:45pm

re: #200 lawhawk

Has the whole world gone CRAZY?!!!?

Giphy

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:32:42pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

Yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:34:50pm

re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Care to explain? Not knowing a whole lot about the politics of the southern Midwest after moving out, aside from the fact that Pence was/is a complete and utter jackass, I’m curious.

He was caught up in the Blagojevich wiretaps.
And word is he spent almost $70 million on this race, essentially buying the nomination.

Maybe I’m just being biased against super rich people.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:34:59pm

re: #210 Sea Mexican!

Leave it to Republicans to celebrate the death of a child, regardless of his intentions.

A death by a law officer is a failure of the system.

I had it explained to me this way: If a police officer has to fire his gun, ever, something went horribly wrong. Shooting someone should not be the first resort or the first reaction, it should be the last. The officer may have done everything right, but in the end, if he has to pull the trigger, someone or something has failed to bring a peaceful end to the situation.

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:35:06pm

re: #206 lawhawk

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Just what the fuck they needed;
A copycat.

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gwangung  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:36:57pm

re: #214 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I had it explained to me this way: If a police officer has to fire his gun, ever, something went horribly wrong. Shooting someone should not be the first resort or the first reaction, it should be the last. The officer may have done everything right, but in the end, if he has to pull the trigger, someone or something has failed to bring a peaceful end to the situation.

I’m almost sure they stopped teaching that at least a decade ago. That’s diametrically opposed to “officer’s life first” strategy that’s now dominant in police training.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:41:13pm

re: #216 gwangung

I’m almost sure they stopped teaching that at least a decade ago. That’s diametrically opposed to “officer’s life first” strategy that’s now dominant in police training.

I’m related to several (active and retired) police officers. I can appreciate that, but at the same time, I would really rather they not have innocent lives on their conscience because they shot first and asked questions later. My uncle already has enough PTSD between Vietnam and decades of experience as a state police detective.

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:41:33pm

re: #193 gocart mozart

Betsey hates state’s rights if it will protect students from loan sharks

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Owned.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:45:51pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was caught up in the Blagojevich wiretaps.
And word is he spent almost $70 million on this race, essentially buying the nomination.

Maybe I’m just being biased against super rich people.

There used to be a healthy skepticism in this country vs. the ultra wealthy, summed up as “Behind every great fortune is a great crime”.

Although that slogan is too simplistic, its total erasure from public thought is symptom of a far worse problem — about half the electorate will vote to enslave themselves and everyone else to the rich and call it ‘freedom’.

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gwangung  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:46:09pm

re: #217 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m related to several (active and retired) police officers. I can appreciate that, but at the same time, I would really rather they not have innocent lives on their conscience because they shot first and asked questions later. My uncle already has enough PTSD between Vietnam and decades of experience as a state police detective.

I’m just hoping that they’re not getting psychologically inured against that. You SHOULD feel guilty if you killed an innocent man; therefore you should only be using deadly force as a last result.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:47:58pm

re: #206 lawhawk

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petesh  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:48:15pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

Ringo Starr awarded knighthood for his contributions to music. He says “he’ll wear his medal to breakfast.”

The Duke of Cambridge gave him the award at Buckingham Palace.

bbc.com

Long may Ringo reign!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:50:04pm

I’m having fun playing with my new phone.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:50:48pm

re: #187 William Lewis

Because Bernie is as racist as Trump but has better visuals overall.

Probably a better way to put it is that Bernie’s racism is passive whereas Trump’s is active. Whether that means it’s a more benign form of racism is a matter of perspective. He and his followers definitely tend to view identity politics and the specific concerns of minorities as at best secondary to and something that will be magically fixed by their socialist policy panacea.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:51:03pm

re: #220 gwangung

I’m just hoping that they’re not getting psychologically inured against that. You SHOULD feel guilty if you killed an innocent man; therefore you should only be using deadly force as a last result.

The problem is that this is basically the same tactic that the armed forces use to overcome the built-in human barrier to killing another human. Alleged perpetrators of crime are dehumanized, and police officers are trained in military tactics so as to lower the psychological impact to killing them. All of this in the name of “safety”, when in reality we are far less safe with cops ranging around that are trained as semi-professional killers.

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:54:32pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

Franklin Leonard

@franklinleonard
Unarmed in his own backyard.

We had a totally worthless powerpoint presentation yesterday about what to do in an ‘active shooter’ situation at work. It was pure consultant-speak. It presented every situation as a question without providing us one single bit of useful advice on how we could find a safe space. It suggested locking ourselves in our offices when 98% of the workforce is in open cubicles, which were recently remodeled so that everyone works in dead-end corridors that only open onto main corridors. We sent a LOT of comments about that back to the safety committee.

We were talking about how we should act when we run into cops on the site, and I turned to the one black guy in our work group and said “Of course, you’re screwed”. He was the only one who laughed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:55:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:56:18pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:56:39pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ummm…. No, it’s more like that they have gone so far right, that Democrats now occupy the left, the center, and about half of the right as well.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 6:59:45pm

re: #203 ObserverArt

Heh, Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro has some cool purple/blue streaks in her hair.

I bet that drives some other congress folk crazy. I imagine Betsy is shocked that a female member of congress would present herself like this.

Betsy is all prim and proper and godly and an unmitigated disaster as education policy person. Betsy is ugly.

LOL

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:08:33pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was caught up in the Blagojevich wiretaps.
And word is he spent almost $70 million on this race, essentially buying the nomination.

Maybe I’m just being biased against super rich people.

Rauner bought the race last time — Pritzker can outspend him. People who are teachers disliked his main opponent Biss — the candidate with actual experience — because of his position on reducing teacher benefits. However, most of my non-teacher friends supported Biss.

My position in the general election is simple — Pritzker is a Democrat; that’s enough to get my vote. I don’t care how sleazy he is. But there is definitely something wrong with this trend of rich individuals buying offices at the top instead of working their way up.

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Maddies Mom  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:12:21pm

re: #208 bratwurst

Anyone interested in following the primary results here in Illinois can check out the Sun-Times results page.

Unfortunately, it seems nearly certain we are stuck with J.B. Pritzker as the Democratic gubernatorial nominee.

This puts me in a bad position: I think it is disqualifying for political candidates like Mitt Romney and our current governor Bruce Rauner to have significant offshore holdings. Pritzker’s offshore money is actually worse than the others, turning up in the Paradise Papers.

Of course, Pritzker went on to lie about the age of these accounts.

I do not think I can vote for him.

Are you serious?????!!!!!! I’m Illinois too, I voted Biss but would crawl through broken glass to get rid of Rauner. I can’t even believe you would say that after what happened in 2016. Please tell me you’re kidding? Please?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:12:42pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

So according to Trump, the Austin bombings aren’t terrorism but the work of sick individuals? What a surprise. And what a disgrace.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:16:09pm

re: #233 Hecuba’s daughter

So according to Trump, the Austin bombings aren’t terrorism but the work of sick individuals? What a surprise. And what a disgrace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:16:52pm

but knowing the actual words is a bridge too far…

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:17:17pm

I finally got to read the replies in a tweet someone put up earlier. I like this one:

In the replies to it though, some guy seems to be OK with comparing us to Nicaragua.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:18:24pm
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bratwurst  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:22:25pm

re: #232 Maddies Mom

Are you serious?????!!!!!! I’m Illinois too, I voted Biss but would crawl through broken glass to get rid of Rauner. I can’t even believe you would say that after what happened in 2016. Please tell me you’re kidding? Please?

Couldn’t we have found a rich guy to buy the nomination who WASN’T asshole buddies with convicted felon Blagojevich and DOESN’T have money stashed away from the tax man in the dodgiest types of overseas accounts imaginable?

I greatly dislike Rauner, but I think you are being somewhat unfair in trying to compare this with the 2016 general election.

I will make you this promise: I’ll keep an open mind and perhaps J.B. can win my vote. Any more blatant lies about the age and nature of his offshore tax shelters is going to make that very hard though.

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Maddies Mom  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:25:02pm

re: #238 bratwurst

Fair enough.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:25:30pm

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

Rauner bought the race last time — Pritzker can outspend him. People who are teachers disliked his main opponent Biss — the candidate with actual experience — because of his position on reducing teacher benefits. However, most of my non-teacher friends supported Biss.

My position in the general election is simple — Pritzker is a Democrat; that’s enough to get my vote. I don’t care how sleazy he is. But there is definitely something wrong with this trend of rich individuals buying offices at the top instead of working their way up.

Worst case, he’ll wind up in the governor’s wing at Statesville, or wherever the ex-gov’s of IL are these days.

If I still lived there is do exactly what you said, vote Democrat. No matter what.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:25:46pm

re: #238 bratwurst

Couldn’t we have found a rich guy to buy the nomination who WASN’T asshole buddies with convicted felon Blagojevich and DOESN’T have money stashed away from the tax man in the dodgiest types of overseas accounts imaginable?

I greatly dislike Rauner, but I think you are being somewhat unfair in trying to compare this with the 2016 general election.

I will make you this promise: I’ll keep an open mind and perhaps J.B. can win my vote. Any more blatant lies about the age and nature of his offshore tax shelters is going to make that very hard though.

The point is not that this election compares to 2016. The point is that we need Democrats everywhere in 2018. There is no election or vote you sit out. There is no Democrat you don’t vote for (except that guy in Wyoming or Montana or wherever that’s actually a Republican running as a Democrat).

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:26:55pm

Chris Cillizza has shown himself again to be an idiot. Why can’t he stand up for truth? Ana Navarro seems the only one to speak forthrightly about the Trump affinity for Putin.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:29:54pm

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Chris Cillizza has shown himself again to be an idiot. Why can’t he stand up for truth? Ana Navarro seems the only one to speak forthrightly about the Trump affinity for Putin.

Yeah, just watched that.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:31:20pm

Chaos within

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bratwurst  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:34:09pm

re: #241 Belafon

There is no Democrat you don’t vote for (except that guy in Wyoming or Montana or wherever that’s actually a Republican running as a Democrat).

Sorry, that is not how I roll. I pilloried Mitt Romney and Rauner himself for shielding their wealth in the Caribbean. It is going to be hard for me to turn around and vote for someone who is involved in an even worse tax avoidance scheme (and then lied about it!) simply because there is a D after his name. You do you, I’ll do me.

If it makes you feel any better, Hillary had no problem whatsoever winning Illinois with a Republican governor in the state house. This is not a swing state where the sitting governor has significant power to swing elections.

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gwangung  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:36:55pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Chaos within

Trump gets neither loyalty nor respect. He thinks he should get it because he supposedly has authority.

But it’s actually the other way around. Act and behave so you get loyalty and respect; THAT will give you the authority to act.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:38:17pm
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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:39:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:42:18pm

re: #240 MsJ

Worst case, he’ll wind up in the governor’s wing at Statesville, or wherever the ex-gov’s of IL are these days.

If I still lived there is do exactly what you said, vote Democrat. No matter what.

Whatever else one can say about Pritzker —- he is a real Democrat and part of the Chicago Democratic establishment. He speaks a good game and has an intimate knowledge of the state and the issues. One of my Biss supporting friends admitted several days ago that he really liked Pritzker’s positions. The question is whether, if elected, he can help Illinois escape from its financial mess.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:44:30pm

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

Rauner bought the race last time — Pritzker can outspend him. People who are teachers disliked his main opponent Biss — the candidate with actual experience — because of his position on reducing teacher benefits. However, most of my non-teacher friends supported Biss.

My position in the general election is simple — Pritzker is a Democrat; that’s enough to get my vote. I don’t care how sleazy he is. But there is definitely something wrong with this trend of rich individuals buying offices at the top instead of working their way up.

The Blago tapes. The FBI found no wrong doing on Pritzker’s behalf.

As for his $ and the off-shore holdings. The Dems won’t stand for it the way Republicans are letting Trump get away with everything. Pritzker’s choice for Lt. Governor, Juliana Stratton, was a smart move. She’s tough as nails and she won’t nevessarily roll over on JB’s behalf.

The alternative is Rauner. That’s all there is to it. I found Biss’s message too one-denensional.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:44:40pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

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That is such a sad story as I’ve heard about it before.

I’m no military specialist or historian, but doesn’t the armed services no longer allow members of the same family to serve in the same way together on the same ship or all in the same company, etc.? I thought they decided it puts too much a burden and strain on a family.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:46:24pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

That is such a sad story as I’ve heard about it before.

I’m no military specialist or historian, but doesn’t the armed services no longer allow members of the same family to serve in the same way together on the same ship or all in the same company, etc.? I thought they decided it puts too much a burden and strain on a family.

Yep, the rules have changed since the Sullivan bros.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:46:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:52:08pm

re: #245 bratwurst

If it makes you feel any better, Hillary had no problem whatsoever winning Illinois with a Republican governor in the state house. This is not a swing state where the sitting governor has significant power to swing elections.

Until the Republican party becomes sane again, we don’t need a situation where Republican can continue to boast how many states they run. We have to stop them and the governor seat gives them a foothold on the operation of this state. Ogilvie and Edgar were honest and effective Republican governors but they were a long time ago.

—edit to correct error

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:53:19pm
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Jay C  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:56:56pm

re: #252 Stanley Sea

Yep, the rules have changed since the Sullivan bros.

AFAICR, the rules were changed because of what happened to the Sullivan Brothers.

I wonder if Allen’s probes will figure out exactly what happened to the Juneau: its sinking was one of the swiftest (and least-explicable) in WWII.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:57:12pm

re: #245 bratwurst

Sorry, that is not how I roll. I pilloried Mitt Romney and Rauner himself for shielding their wealth in the Caribbean. It is going to be hard for me to turn around and vote for someone who is involved in an even worse tax avoidance scheme (and then lied about it!) simply because there is a D after his name. You do you, I’ll do me.

If it makes you feel any better, Hillary had no problem whatsoever winning Illinois with a Republican governor in the state house. This is not a swing state where the sitting governor has significant power to swing elections.

Neither was Wisconsin at one time.

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Kragar  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:59:17pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:59:29pm

re: #253 Stanley Sea

Renato Mariotti

@renato_mariotti
THREAD: Thank you.
8:30 PM - Mar 20, 2018
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He’s the candidate I supported. Disappointed that he didn’t make it — but it was a very crowded field with no obvious front-runner.

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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 7:59:50pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

Want that the story that was used to base Saving Private Ryan on?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:02:31pm

Democrats will hold their fellow party politicians responsible for any crimes. Republicans will only enable theirs. While I’m cautious re: Pritzker, I’m not going to turn over IL to Rauner again.

Another thing. Redistricting is coming to IL in 2020. I’ll be damned if a Republican is governor.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:06:41pm

re: #260 MsJ

Maybe?

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Kragar  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:06:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:08:42pm

re: #190 lawhawk

Mississippi has among the worst health outcomes in the nation for women. By every metric, Mississippi lags the region and the nation for health coverage generally.

It’s worst in the nation for child well being.

Pretty much every metric you apply in Mississippi shows the state is awful, and the GOP is making it worse.

My goal, after gaining citizenship, is to run for office here at some point, see if I can’t spearhead some changes.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:09:51pm

Btw Austin Goodwill incident wasn’t a bomb and unrelated to what’s been going on.

Apparently it was some old war ordinance. Texas.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:10:24pm

re: #245 bratwurst

Sorry, that is not how I roll. I pilloried Mitt Romney and Rauner himself for shielding their wealth in the Caribbean. It is going to be hard for me to turn around and vote for someone who is involved in an even worse tax avoidance scheme (and then lied about it!) simply because there is a D after his name. You do you, I’ll do me.

If it makes you feel any better, Hillary had no problem whatsoever winning Illinois with a Republican governor in the state house. This is not a swing state where the sitting governor has significant power to swing elections.

Even a weak Governor signs or vetoes legislation, appoints unelected State department heads, reorganizes subservient departments, fills vacancies, pardons / commutes sentences and commands the State’s armed forces when they’re not called to Federal service.

That’s a hell of a lot of power to just passively hand to a Republican.

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retired cynic  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:10:50pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn. And Mariotti lost, too. I am very disappoint.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:11:48pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:12:45pm

He’s just obstreperously stupid.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:21:17pm

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

He’s just obstreperously stupid.

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It wasn’t stupidity — he’s an arrogant traitor. He knew exactly what he was doing.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:22:10pm

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

My goal, after gaining citizenship, is to run for office here at some point, see if I can’t spearhead some changes.

That is so awesome!! Can’t wait to support you lizard!

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:22:37pm
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MsJ  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:25:01pm

re: #265 GlutenFreeJesus

Btw Austin Goodwill incident wasn’t a bomb and unrelated to what’s been going on.

Apparently it was some old war ordinance. Texas.

Did not know that people donated those. /

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:26:15pm

re: #273 MsJ

Did not know that people donated those. /

They thought that maybe someone else could use it.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:28:23pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:31:43pm

Jeanne Ives’ running mate just called Rauner dispicable. lmao

(Running mate. Or whoever the guy with the goofy tie was)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:49:28pm

Kwame Raoul (Obama’s Senate replacement) beats Pat Quinn. I’m so thrilled about this.

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bratwurst  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:51:08pm

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

Even a weak Governor signs or vetoes legislation, appoints unelected State department heads, reorganizes subservient departments, fills vacancies, pardons / commutes sentences and commands the State’s armed forces when they’re not called to Federal service.

That’s a hell of a lot of power to just passively hand to a Republican.

I totally get it…and sorry to have clearly dismayed several of my fellow Illinoisans.

We have a good chunk of time between now and November. Like I said, I will keep an open mind and perhaps I can be swayed to vote for the nominee and accept behavior from him I have regularly condemned in Republican politicians.

FWIW, my problem is less about rich people avoiding taxes and more about a lack of detail orientation. If you are attempting to purchase the office of governor, how could you not have a trusted friend in accounting go over your finances with a fine tooth comb? How could you lie about the age and nature of offshore accounts when it was clearly so easy to learn the truth?

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Kragar  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:53:59pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:56:31pm

re: #279 Kragar

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2018 • 8:57:12pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2018 • 9:00:18pm

I don’t always hate on Bernie, but when I do I really mean it. Fuck that guy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 9:00:50pm

re: #277 GlutenFreeJesus

Kwame Raoul (Obama’s Senate replacement) beats Pat Quinn. I’m so thrilled about this.

I’ve been a fan of Pat Quinn for 40 years, since before he first was in office. But it’s time for new blood and the other 7 candidates were all part of the new generation of Democrats.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 20, 2018 • 9:02:49pm

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve met Pat several times and like him very much. But you’re absolutely right.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 20, 2018 • 9:06:48pm

re: #282 goddamnedfrank

I don’t always hate on Bernie, but when I do I really mean it. Fuck that guy.

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Did he just use Harris in the same fucking sentence as Manchin? This is the problem with Sanders and his supporters. Everyone is awful except him and I can name a big way Sanders helped Trump by not voting for the Russian sanctions.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2018 • 9:07:20pm

re: #282 goddamnedfrank

I don’t always hate on Bernie, but when I do I really mean it. Fuck that guy.

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I confess I hate on Bernie most of the time. His supporters helped guarantee the Trump victory.

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Teukka  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:02:42am

re: #211 teleskiguy

Has the whole world gone CRAZY?!!!?

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Yes.


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