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The train came out of the long border tunnel — and there was the snow country. The night had turned white.
— Yasunari Kawabata, Snow Country
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:13:39pm |
If there is a nog more delicous than artichoke nog, I have yet to find it out there.
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:20:54pm |
You only have 5 more shopping nights until Christmas... make good use of them.
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SteveMcG Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:27:10pm |
Sitting here in Philadelphia hoping for 8-14 inches of snow. A lot of things have to go right to get snow here. Most of the time it changes to rain on us. But I try, unsuccessfully to hide my joy from my wife. I figure when I have seen enough snow, I'll join the crowd that groans at the forecast, but I guess I haven't seen enough yet.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:33:21pm |
re: #4 freetoken
NOOOOOO STOP REMINDING ME :(
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:34:58pm |
re: #8 WindUpBird
Just a little over 120 hours, here on the West coast...
Maybe I should start my 120 song countdown?
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:35:38pm |
Looks like Copenhagen is about to gasp its last breath...
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Gus Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:36:19pm |
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Summer Seale Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:37:34pm |
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:38:06pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:38:42pm |
re: #9 freetoken
Just a little over 120 hours, here on the West coast...
Maybe I should start my 120 song countdown?
The way I'm feeling about my chances of getting my shopping done, the countdown should include some Joy Division and Leonard Cohen.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:40:17pm |
re: #14 freetoken
The tailor's summit: Bespokenhagen
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:45:14pm |
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Gus Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:47:44pm |
re: #14 freetoken
Chopinhagen?
[Video]
You have to wonder. Are these people this slow all the time? Reminds me of congress although it's probably going faster here. It's like another collection of lawyers and/or people that like to hear themselves talk.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:48:16pm |
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laZardo Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:48:45pm |
Gonna nap. O: Been up since 7AM for do-gooding posted on previous thread. Nighty! Afternoony!
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:48:51pm |
The train
Is that what you kids are calling it these days?
came out of the long border tunnel
Well, ok, border tunnel might be alright, but "long border tunnel?" Isn't that sorta like calling her a slut?
— and there was the snow country. The night had turned white.
Duh, of course there was white, well unless you have some kind of weird medical condition....
— Yasunari Kawabata, Snow Country
/Beautiful words/mind in the gutter, sorry folks.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:49:32pm |
re: #20 WindUpBird
Windupbird likes fancy dress ^_^
I know! :-) You have to get another upding for joy division and leonard cohen.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:50:41pm |
re: #22 ausador
We're all of us in the gutter darling, but some of us are looking at the stars...
obligatory oscar wilde reference.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:50:43pm |
re: #23 iceweasel
I know! :-) You have to get another upding for joy division and leonard cohen.
"She's Lost Control", anthem to vampires everywhere!
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:51:22pm |
re: #19 Gus 802
This is the UN in action. The UN serves its purpose: allows a venue for any nation to come and say its thing.
It is not a process that is set up to accomplish radical goals, or even the mundane.
Diplomacy is about getting different parties to speak to each other, if nothing else.
I'll repeat what I wrote the other night: AGW adaptation and mitigation are economics problems, and it will probably be up to the G20 and the WTO to accomplish what is needed, if anybody is going to get something done.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:52:02pm |
re: #2 Fenway_Nation
If there is a nog more delicous than artichoke nog, I have yet to find it out there.
Asparagus works great also, but you really have to strain it to get all the pith and vegetable strands out.
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:52:35pm |
For all of you where frozen precipitation is a possibility:
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:53:36pm |
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Gus Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:54:21pm |
re: #26 freetoken
This is the UN in action. The UN serves its purpose: allows a venue for any nation to come and say its thing.
It is not a process that is set up to accomplish radical goals, or even the mundane.
Diplomacy is about getting different parties to speak to each other, if nothing else.
I'll repeat what I wrote the other night: AGW adaptation and mitigation are economics problems, and it will probably be up to the G20 and the WTO to accomplish what is needed, if anybody is going to get something done.
I see AGW adaptation and mitigation more as a technological process. Of course economics is a part of the technology.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:54:44pm |
re: #25 WindUpBird
"She's Lost Control", anthem to vampires everywhere!
Speaking of which-- I'm assuming you're a True Blood fan
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:54:51pm |
I've suddenly become aware that Frost The Snowman is a song about Intelligent Design.
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Sharmuta Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:55:55pm |
re: #29 WindUpBird
Perhaps a happy medium between traditional and contemporary...?
Oh, the weather outside is frightful,
but drugs are so delightful,
and since there's no place to go
smoke a bowl, smoke a bowl, smoke a bowl!
-My College Roommate
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:57:01pm |
Backwards Islamic Despots Behaving Badly
They've been busy little theocratic beavers over in Iran this week.
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SteveMcG Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:57:09pm |
re: #32 freetoken
I read somewhere that a lot of Christmas carols like Frosty and Rudolf were actually ad campaigns from the 20's.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:57:48pm |
re: #31 iceweasel
I actually haven't sat down to watch full episodes, but I know the gist of it. :D It's hard to get me to sit down and watch TV, I'm so fidgety!
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freetoken Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:58:04pm |
re: #36 SteveMcG
Well, Red Nosed One was an advertising tool of MonkeyWards.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:58:21pm |
re: #34 Sharmuta
Okay that was pretty good ;-)
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SteveMcG Fri, Dec 18, 2009 11:59:24pm |
re: #37 WindUpBird
I hear you. I rarely see a movie in its entirety. I'll see five minutes here, ten minutes there, and eventually I'll see the whole thing. There are a couple I can't walk away from. "Once Upon a Time in America" is one. Problem is it's four hours long.
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:01:18am |
re: #40 SteveMcG
I hear you. I rarely see a movie in its entirety. I'll see five minutes here, ten minutes there, and eventually I'll see the whole thing. There are a couple I can't walk away from. "Once Upon a Time in America" is one. Problem is it's four hours long.
I finally saw it front to back a couple weeks ago. Awesome. Sergio Leone and Robert de Niro...awesome.
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:04:11am |
re: #42 Girth
The tastiest moment of the lot is when Noodles sees Deborah's son.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:06:15am |
re: #13 Summer
Nope it isn't Christian, really it is just kind of stupid based on the limited information we have been given so far. But they aren't going let little details like that stop them from figuratively burning the mother at the stake. No sir...
Ever notice that it is getting more embarrassing every day to call yourself Christian? Too many Christianists out there with lopsided axes to grind are working overtime on preventing the rest of us from ever being taken seriously ever again.
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:07:02am |
It's neat to see the difference between the "movie aged" DeNiro and the real aged DeNiro of today.
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:08:37am |
I'll bet these Christmas threads start earlier every year!
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:09:27am |
re: #45 SteveMcG
I loved the whole thing. I'm a huge fan of the Man With No Name trilogy, and to see Leone's style in a NY gangster movie was just incredible.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:09:40am |
Nytol....the ever-elusive Not Another New England Sports Blog update beckons.
Then a white russian.
Then bed.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:09:42am |
re: #36 SteveMcG
I read somewhere that a lot of Christmas carols like Frosty and Rudolf were actually ad campaigns from the 20's.
Shhhhsss. Next you'll be telling us that there is no such thing as Santa Claus you apostate heathen!
/
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:10:30am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:11:01am |
Pogues: Fairy Tale of New York
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:14:35am |
By the time the radio stations start playing Christmas tunes, I'm ready for a little Christmas. I can never stand listening music on the radio the rest of the year. I've heard not enough songs too many times. I can go around the dial in 5 seconds and not only know every song, but which ones are about to end. Thank God for the Ipod. I got about 950 songs and it takes weeks to go through the shuffle before I hear the same song again. It's neat to go through the library and look at some of the songs you keep and which ones you don't keep. I woulnd up with 8 Carpenters songs, 12 Jethro Tull songs but only 4 Led Zeppelin songs. I have Jack Bruce solo than Cream. Virtually no Beatles songs, except for the most infamous song, the first real headbanger. Never gets any recognition, its name is so intwined with murder.
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:17:20am |
re: #55 Girth
The first great headbanging song. Always forgotten whenever somebody make a list of the best.
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:20:57am |
re: #57 SteveMcG
The first great headbanging song. Always forgotten whenever somebody make a list of the best.
Listening to it again now...never looked at it that way...I'll let you know.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:22:51am |
re: #54 SteveMcG
As a real headbanger who has been in a hundred mosh pits, is it weird that that's not even remotely my favorite Beatles song? Much more into Come Together, Tomorrow Never Knows, and Paperback Writer.
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:23:45am |
re: #60 WindUpBird
As a real headbanger who has been in a hundred mosh pits, is it weird that that's not even remotely my favorite Beatles song? Much more into Come Together, Tomorrow Never Knows, and Paperback Writer.
She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:24:22am |
re: #60 WindUpBird
As a Beatles fan I'm not surprised you'd have other songs you liked better. It's a testament to their song writing abilities.
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:25:34am |
Yeah, I can see the headbanging aspect there, but it's not what I'm looking for when I'm listening to the Beatles.
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:25:58am |
re: #60 WindUpBird
When's the last time you heard "It's all too Much"? My favorite changes with my mood, but I've never had a mood swing that could stand Hey Jude.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:26:07am |
Fox News: Ben Nelson Opposes Health Reform Because He ‘Understands The True Meaning Of Christmas’
Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) is still refusing to support Senate health care reform legislation, with his main objection being that the bill doesn’t restrict women’s rights enough by severely limiting access to abortions. Today on Fox News, host Steve Doocy and analyst Peter Johnson, Jr. lauded Nelson for his “moral” stance. But they then went even further, arguing that Nelson is obstructing progress because he “understands the true meaning of Christmas” — unlike all the immoral people who want to make sure that Americans have access to quality, affordable health care as soon as possible.
Let it never be said that the political system, left and right, doesn't understand the true meaning of Festivus. Let the airing of grievances begin!*
*comment semi-plagiarised from someone wittier than I in the comments section there.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:26:28am |
re: #64 SteveMcG
I linked that song the other day in a comment.
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:28:42am |
re: #66 Sharmuta
No kidding! I guess if you have enough commenters typing on enough keyboards, some obscure song will pop up twice in a week.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:29:07am |
One of my favorite things about this time of year is "best albums of the year" lists. I could not agree more with Number One. I have bought that record over ten times as gifts for friends.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:29:36am |
re: #62 Sharmuta
As a Beatles fan I'm not surprised you'd have other songs you liked better. It's a testament to their song writing abilities.
There's so much to choose from, it's like picking your favorite car.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:32:37am |
re: #65 iceweasel
Let it never be said that the political system, left and right, doesn't understand the true meaning of Festivus. Let the airing of grievances begin!**comment semi-plagiarised from someone wittier than I in the comments section there.
NOOOOO not the feats of strength!
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SteveMcG Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:32:41am |
Holy shit! It's 12.30 PST. I'm watching this cat that I'm babysitting on the lookout for mice. Really neat. It's some foofy Siberian hypoallergenic cat that my sister in law paid a fortune for. That cat's probably more scared of me that hte mice are.
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:34:51am |
Sarah McLachlan did an awesome cover of Blackbird for the I Am Sam soundtrack:
Love her voice.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:36:55am |
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:38:51am |
re: #75 Sharmuta
I met her- she's really nice.
She does commercials for the ASPCA, and her music will always have a special place in my heart for personal reasons.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:41:26am |
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Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:44:12am |
Check this out, this is how Dave's been doing Everlong lately, I love it:
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:54:33am |
Ever gone hunting for leftovers in your fridge at 3:45 in the morning and been unable to quite figure out what you had stashed away in some of those identical looking tupperware containers?
If you have to ask yourself if it is garlic mashed potatoes or rice pudding your probably better off throwing it away I've found out thru sad experience. ;)
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:58:23am |
re: #81 ausador
Ever gone hunting for leftovers in your fridge at 3:45 in the morning and been unable to quite figure out what you had stashed away in some of those identical looking tupperware containers?
If you have to ask yourself if it is garlic mashed potatoes or rice pudding your probably better off throwing it away I've found out thru sad experience. ;)
Leftovers? I'd go for the potatoes.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:06:59am |
re: #82 Gus 802
Leftovers? I'd go for the potatoes.
So would I, but then I'm irish. A potato and a sixpack is the traditional seven course meal, as the old joke goes.
As for my extended family, my theory has always been that the Irish drink because the cooking is so horrible if it weren't for alcohol they'd get no calories at all.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:10:57am |
re: #83 iceweasel
So would I, but then I'm irish. A potato and a sixpack is the traditional seven course meal, as the old joke goes.
As for my extended family, my theory has always been that the Irish drink because the cooking is so horrible if it weren't for alcohol they'd get no calories at all.
It's good cheap eats. At least I've noticed this year. I like to slice them and either pan fry them in butter or oil. No major dunkage in either case. It's a carbo so the "energy value" gets eaten up rather fast. If I'm going to put any bangers in that mast I prefer Italian.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:12:49am |
re: #83 iceweasel
Bah, I'm not talking to you anymore, you downdinged me on one of my comments two threads down, nevermind the seven or so other comments in that thread that you updinged me on...
///pouting :(
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:15:02am |
re: #82 Gus 802
Leftovers? I'd go for the potatoes.
Ahh but thats the trick, first you have to identify the potatoes...
(J/K my fridge isn't...err...quite that bad)
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:15:26am |
Believe it or not but they're still negotiating at COP15.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:19:04am |
re: #84 Gus 802
It's good cheap eats. At least I've noticed this year. I like to slice them and either pan fry them in butter or oil. No major dunkage in either case. It's a carbo so the "energy value" gets eaten up rather fast. If I'm going to put any bangers in that mast I prefer Italian.
Potatoes are great, especially if you want to save some money on your food budget. This is a great potato leek soup that I love. Made it for Jimmah last week and he approved.
Changes: use all chicken broth, no water, if you can. I make my own stock-- buy a rotisserie chicken and when you're done eating it make stock from the carcass. You could also use boullion and water in place of the water, but it bumps the sodium content up high.
We're on a super-tight budget ourselves right now; potatoes are great. Killgore no doubt will have all kinds of better tips in re: cooking and food budget, but this is a nice simple recipe that doesn't require you to have anything other than a pot and a vegetable peeler (and knife).
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:21:47am |
re: #85 ausador
Bah, I'm not talking to you anymore, you downdinged me on one of my comments two threads down, nevermind the seven or so other comments in that thread that you updinged me on...
///pouting :(
Hee. Well what about that one time months ago when you updinged someone who had once been mean to me, smartypants? I will hate you 4evah!
///
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:24:38am |
I do end up throwing an awful lot of stuff out but thats only because I like cooking so much. The leftovers often just end up dieing of old age unless I hit a lazy spell in cooking new stuff or can't palm them off on one of my Condo neighbors.
(Not that getting the neighbors to take stuff is usually that hard, I am the only one here with a grill on my patio, and in Florida for goodness sakes! How did I end up surrounded by non-barbecueing heathen in my retirement?)
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:26:31am |
re: #88 iceweasel
Potatoes are great, especially if you want to save some money on your food budget. This is a great potato leek soup that I love. Made it for Jimmah last week and he approved.
Changes: use all chicken broth, no water, if you can. I make my own stock-- buy a rotisserie chicken and when you're done eating it make stock from the carcass. You could also use boullion and water in place of the water, but it bumps the sodium content up high.
We're on a super-tight budget ourselves right now; potatoes are great. Killgore no doubt will have all kinds of better tips in re: cooking and food budget, but this is a nice simple recipe that doesn't require you to have anything other than a pot and a vegetable peeler (and knife).
Killgore can make a pork chop last 1000 days! Just kidding, about 4-5 days with lots of vegetable. I can cook but since I've had an electric stove I lost interest. Plus I'm set in my ways pushing a close 50. If I cook it involves a pan and either ground beef or an Italian sausage and wheat bread. Garlic and onions optional. Or I'll mix up a microwave burrito with a Budget Gourmet vegies and rice. Maybe add a tomato. Chips, granola bar or two and of course, ice cream.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:31:44am |
Take not on the Copenhagen Accord.
Passed on specified nations.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:36:54am |
Nix that. Not passed but "takes note" of COP15 accord.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:38:05am |
OT: 4 Trains trapped in the chunnel! (I knew France was trash, but really, four at once?)
LONDON - Four trains carrying more than 2,000 people broke down beneath the tunnel that links England and France on Friday night, as snow was expected to cause further disruptions throughout Britain.
Eurostar spokesman Bram Smets told Sky News and the BBC early Saturday that all the passengers were safe, although some of the trains were reportedly without heating and lighting.
The difference between the cold air and the warm tunnel caused the trains to break down, Eurostar told BBC News.
Maybe if they got a thicker comforter the trains will want to come out?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:41:37am |
re: #91 Gus 802
Killgore can make a pork chop last 1000 days! Just kidding, about 4-5 days with lots of vegetable. I can cook but since I've had an electric stove I lost interest. Plus I'm set in my ways pushing a close 50. If I cook it involves a pan and either ground beef or an Italian sausage and wheat bread. Garlic and onions optional. Or I'll mix up a microwave burrito with a Budget Gourmet vegies and rice. Maybe add a tomato. Chips, granola bar or two and of course, ice cream.
Killgore's pretty amazing with the food stuff!
I hate electric stoves--I suck at cooking on them. I'm not really a foodie, just trying to cook the last few years, really. I could probably find you some recipes that would be in your parameters. :)
BTW I always thought you were like 15 years younger than that, no idea why.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:42:30am |
Note to Ed Morrissey. Once a pregnancy comes to term and is postnatal the child is not a fetus.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:46:28am |
re: #90 ausador
I do end up throwing an awful lot of stuff out but thats only because I like cooking so much. The leftovers often just end up dieing of old age unless I hit a lazy spell in cooking new stuff or can't palm them off on one of my Condo neighbors.
(Not that getting the neighbors to take stuff is usually that hard, I am the only one here with a grill on my patio, and in Florida for goodness sakes! How did I end up surrounded by non-barbecueing heathen in my retirement?)
WTF? Is it just too hot to BBQ there?
I keep threatening Jimmah that we're buying a grill ASAP and will be doing a lot of cooking on it. I guess it isn't normal in Scotland, lol.
I will say that I'm really glad we have a small fridge there, by US standards, because I wind up throwing out way more stuff here in the US--I forget what is in the fridge, or it's too easy to fling it into a tupperware container and then I forget about it, etc. I'll ask you for BBQ recipes sometime if that's ok-- I'm sort of teaching myself now how to cook stuff, really.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:51:38am |
re: #97 Gus 802
Note to Ed Morrissey. Once a pregnancy comes to term and is postnatal the child is not a fetus.
That mistake by Ed (and all the frothing anti-choice nuts) is completely deliberate, of course.
Did you catch this from last night's overnight? We were talking about the OK law about internet disclosure of abortion info-- here is the PDF I posted of the law.
Notice how the female patient is consistently referred to as the 'mother'. Nice touch, asshats!
Anyway, Ed knows perfectly well what he is doing when he elides that distinction between fetus and infant. A troglodyte like Ace or Dan Riehl is dumb enough not to know-- but he does. IMO that makes him worse.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:52:50am |
You can do an awful lot of stuff on the grill if you can control the temperature halfway decently, you just need a good grill. Really down here it beats the heck out of heating up the place with the oven and running the A.C. more, plus it tastes better (well, almost always, sometimes I just like a pan-fried steak with onions and mushrooms over a grilled one).
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:53:22am |
re: #96 iceweasel
Killgore's pretty amazing with the food stuff!
I hate electric stoves--I suck at cooking on them. I'm not really a foodie, just trying to cook the last few years, really. I could probably find you some recipes that would be in your parameters. :)
BTW I always thought you were like 15 years younger than that, no idea why.
Electric stoves are not reactive and slow to respond.
I've always thought that being young at heart was always more important than physical age. I sometimes see wingnuts that are my age and they almost seem like they're my father -- besides almost puking.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 1:58:54am |
re: #100 ausador
You can do an awful lot of stuff on the grill if you can control the temperature halfway decently, you just need a good grill. Really down here it beats the heck out of heating up the place with the oven and running the A.C. more, plus it tastes better (well, almost always, sometimes I just like a pan-fried steak with onions and mushrooms over a grilled one).
I have to say I have never cooked a steak. (I think once, long ago.) I never was a big fan of red meat (this goes back to the Irish family that boiled everything, basically). Plus my ex was vegetarian, so there was no need to learn. Jimmah, however, is a fan, so I've promised to get up to speed on it. Advice? (on the panfrying; no way will I be grilling anything in Scotland for a few months yet).
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:04:14am |
re: #101 Gus 802
I'm starting to feel older here, I'm in a 55+ building as the token youngster, they are allowed two people owning units below 55 while still keeping their tax reduction. Still everyone here is at least ten years older than me and it can get...well...old. There are no "block parties" no community get togethers, hell half the people aren't even here for most of the year. Just getting a quorum together for the association meetings is a challenge, still they are quiet and un-bothersome neighbors.
I guess I should just shut up and enjoy my view of the gulf in the peace and quiet. I can always go down out when I want to escape feeling like I'm old before my time.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:04:56am |
re: #99 iceweasel
That mistake by Ed (and all the frothing anti-choice nuts) is completely deliberate, of course.
Did you catch this from last night's overnight? We were talking about the OK law about internet disclosure of abortion info-- here is the PDF I posted of the law.
Notice how the female patient is consistently referred to as the 'mother'. Nice touch, asshats!
Anyway, Ed knows perfectly well what he is doing when he elides that distinction between fetus and infant. A troglodyte like Ace or Dan Riehl is dumb enough not to know-- but he does. IMO that makes him worse.
How do I put this. Morrissey is not very bright. In fact, he's a rather dim bulb. However, he's actually a little bit smarter that Dan Riehl and Uncle Jimbo. Which isn't saying much.
Now, these are the lower forms of intelligence on the right wing blogosphere. You do however get equally ignorant personalities like Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Pat Buchanan, Sarah Palin, etc. Think lower end of the intelligence curve.
Morrissey always tries to sell himself as a "pro-life" blogger. Doesn't matter if he even has a clue if human reproduction. After all, he's just trying to sell his 6th grade writing level to some of the commentators we've seen. Now that's a low bar to reach for. If you consider the Godhead Michelle Malkin of the wingnut blogosphere that put's things in perspective.
The bottom line is that we talking about rather dumb people.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:10:41am |
re: #101 Gus 802
Electric stoves are not reactive and slow to respond.
I've always thought that being young at heart was always more important than physical age. I sometimes see wingnuts that are my age and they almost seem like they're my father -- besides almost puking.
There's something about wingnuts, even really young wingnuts, where they seem to be in training for being a grumpy extremely old man. (that holds for the women too.) If I had to pin down one defining characteristic of the wingnut it would be a reactionary sort of resentment: resentment of others, belief that things have been stolen from them, belief others have it easier, a sullen resistance to conditions being improved for anyone based on a logic like "no one helped me, why should it be easier for anyone else?" It's really strange. it's like they take the good stuff about conservatism (respect for tradition) and run it through some filter coated with lemon and vinegar and other agents of bitterness.
Totally agree that young at heart (and in mind, in terms of remaining openminded) is way more important than physical age.
TMI, probably, but when Jimmah and I first started talking, he said "i'm slightly worried I may be older than you" (he is, but not a lot by any means) --but my immediate reaction was that I could not care less. (unless he was like 70 or up. That would have sucked, and not so much for the age '70' as for the years it'd mean I'd be without him in future. )
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windsagio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:14:19am |
re: #106 iceweasel
Goes back to the phrase 'angry white men', remember that from the early '90s?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:16:13am |
re: #104 Gus 802
How do I put this. Morrissey is not very bright. In fact, he's a rather dim bulb. However, he's actually a little bit smarter that Dan Riehl and Uncle Jimbo. Which isn't saying much.
Now, these are the lower forms of intelligence on the right wing blogosphere. You do however get equally ignorant personalities like Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Pat Buchanan, Sarah Palin, etc. Think lower end of the intelligence curve.
Morrissey always tries to sell himself as a "pro-life" blogger. Doesn't matter if he even has a clue if human reproduction. After all, he's just trying to sell his 6th grade writing level to some of the commentators we've seen. Now that's a low bar to reach for. If you consider the Godhead Michelle Malkin of the wingnut blogosphere that put's things in perspective.
The bottom line is that we talking about rather dumb people.
The horrific state of the rightwing blogosphere (and the right in general) becomes apparent when we realise that a) Ed used to be one of the intelligent people in the rightwing blogosphere (which says very little about him, and much about the sad state of the RW blogosphere) and b) Jonah Goldberg is considered a leading intellectual.
Dumb people indeed.
Ed's been whoring himself to the HA commentariat ever since he got that gig.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:17:06am |
re: #106 iceweasel
There's something about wingnuts, even really young wingnuts, where they seem to be in training for being a grumpy extremely old man. (that holds for the women too.) If I had to pin down one defining characteristic of the wingnut it would be a reactionary sort of resentment: resentment of others, belief that things have been stolen from them, belief others have it easier, a sullen resistance to conditions being improved for anyone based on a logic like "no one helped me, why should it be easier for anyone else?" It's really strange. it's like they take the good stuff about conservatism (respect for tradition) and run it through some filter coated with lemon and vinegar and other agents of bitterness.
Totally agree that young at heart (and in mind, in terms of remaining openminded) is way more important than physical age.
TMI, probably, but when Jimmah and I first started talking, he said "i'm slightly worried I may be older than you" (he is, but not a lot by any means) --but my immediate reaction was that I could not care less. (unless he was like 70 or up. That would have sucked, and not so much for the age '70' as for the years it'd mean I'd be without him in future. )
Getting late here. One of the other things I've noticed about these right wing bloggers is that they never stop complaining. That seems to be their Raison d'être. Here's one example and he calls himself an "irritated retired spook from the Lone Star State." It would be easier if he just called himself a loser douche. But there's thousand of him in this bucolic landscape.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:21:57am |
re: #109 Gus 802
Getting late here. One of the other things I've noticed about these right wing bloggers is that they never stop complaining. That seems to be their Raison d'être. Here's one example and he calls himself an "irritated retired spook from the Lone Star State." It would be easier if he just called himself a loser douche. But there's thousand of him in this bucolic landscape.
OMG, who is this freak and how did you find him?
Nice background image on that twitter account-- a flag with a hammer and sickle hanging on the capitol building while valiant soldiers pitch a US flag on the ground in front of it. Way to call for a violent revolution!
Someone's been watching too much Red Dawn while inhaling Cheeto dust....
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:22:08am |
re: #108 iceweasel
The horrific state of the rightwing blogosphere (and the right in general) becomes apparent when we realise that a) Ed used to be one of the intelligent people in the rightwing blogosphere (which says very little about him, and much about the sad state of the RW blogosphere) and b) Jonah Goldberg is considered a leading intellectual.
Dumb people indeed.
Ed's been whoring himself to the HA commentariat ever since he got that gig.
Back when he was Captain Ed? Yeah, minimal. That was when he had the 9/12 conservatives backing him. One of the things I realized fast was that even though we were united on a war we had nothing else in common. That was the thing and I'll repeat it. We were bonded with the war but in every other ideological front it was like oil and water. The only bond we had was Iraq and Afghanistan. Other than that they were still a bunch of backwater socially regressive charecatures of Archie Bunker if not worse.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:23:24am |
re: #110 iceweasel
OMG, who is this freak and how did you find him?
Nice background image on that twitter account-- a flag with a hammer and sickle hanging on the capitol building while valiant soldiers pitch a US flag on the ground in front of it. Way to call for a violent revolution!Someone's been watching too much Red Dawn while inhaling Cheeto dust...
How did I find him? He's just another loser that spends his days complaining about some imaginary enemy and was tweeting something to that Hot Air guy.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:23:55am |
re: #107 windsagio
Goes back to the phrase 'angry white men', remember that from the early '90s?
I don't, actually. I was probably up to no good. What was it about?
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:26:06am |
Here's another one:
Funny, LGF attacking @EdMorrissey. I thought Ed's post was quite clear. Also loved cherry picked comments. LGF used to be good, not anymore
And his "bio":
# Bio Catholic Conservative living in the heart of the liberal beast. I develop websites & software. For enjoyment I like politics, hiking/camping, driving/exploring
Another poor victim of "the liberal beast."
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:26:39am |
re: #111 Gus 802
Back when he was Captain Ed? Yeah, minimal. That was when he had the 9/12 conservatives backing him. One of the things I realized fast was that even though we were united on a war we had nothing else in common. That was the thing and I'll repeat it. We were bonded with the war but in every other ideological front it was like oil and water. The only bond we had was Iraq and Afghanistan. Other than that they were still a bunch of backwater socially regressive charecatures of Archie Bunker if not worse.
I think that sums up a lot of people's positions over the last several years, politically. In many ways it's like the whole country underwent some kind of fever dream in the aftermath of 9-11, and I think the history books in a couple of decades will see it that way too.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:33:56am |
re: #115 iceweasel
I think that sums up a lot of people's positions over the last several years, politically. In many ways it's like the whole country underwent some kind of fever dream in the aftermath of 9-11, and I think the history books in a couple of decades will see it that way too.
Yep. But it's ended. I went through about the same trajectory as Charles. It's been fun and I still think that there are still some important elements to "fighting the good fight" when needed but I'm just not interested in the bigoted paranoid baggage that they own and I'm tired of their hyper anti-intellectualism. You know, like that whole minaret garbage. I sometimes joke to myself about how to get the right to sign up with AGW. Just tell them that it's the Muslims that are responsible for climate change. /
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:35:18am |
re: #116 Gus 802
And it's always, always about their religion.
Tell me about it.
Oh, and by religion we always must mean 'Christianity'**, and only certain forms of christianity, because for those wingnutty fake Christians nothing else counts as a religion.
Judaism will be tolerated and respected, but (for some) only until all Jews can be 'perfected' (cf coulter) and israel and the 'unperfected christians' there can drown in the lake of fire. (cf wingnut pre-millenial dispensationalist types)
And islam isn't even a religion, for them, it's some cult/political ideology/ satanism by another name.*
* I am obviously only talking about the wingnut fundies here and haters of muslims.
** The same 'christians' who look forward to the world drowning in a lake of fire also hate Catholics, let's not forget.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:40:43am |
re: #118 iceweasel
Tell me about it.
Oh, and by religion we always must mean 'Christianity'**, and only certain forms of christianity, because for those wingnutty fake Christians nothing else counts as a religion.
Judaism will be tolerated and respected, but (for some) only until all Jews can be 'perfected' (cf coulter) and israel and the 'unperfected christians' there can drown in the lake of fire. (cf wingnut pre-millenial dispensationalist types)
And islam isn't even a religion, for them, it's some cult/political ideology/ satanism by another name.** I am obviously only talking about the wingnut fundies here and haters of muslims.
** The same 'christians' who look forward to the world drowning in a lake of fire also hate Catholics, let's not forget.
You know why they always say Judeo-Christian. It's all because of their fantasies about Rapture and the Apocalypse. They used to have religious tests in this country back in "the good old days." If you weren't a Protestant Christian you were persona non grata.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:43:14am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Yep. But it's ended. I went through about the same trajectory as Charles. It's been fun and I still think that there are still some important elements to "fighting the good fight" when needed but I'm just not interested in the bigoted paranoid baggage that they own and I'm tired of their hyper anti-intellectualism. You know, like that whole minaret garbage. I sometimes joke to myself about how to get the right to sign up with AGW. Just tell them that it's the Muslims that are responsible for climate change. /
It'd probably work./
One huge reason this place is cool is that people here will change their minds. I talk to a lot of lefties about LGF, and I tell them to come check it out, it isn't what they think. The person I think of as the 'average LGFer' is a lot more open to changing his or her mind than the 'average' people on partisan sites-- on the left as well as the right.
It's very cool to see in action. Also, this place has made me change my mind about stuff, which I value.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:48:02am |
re: #120 Gus 802
You know why they always say Judeo-Christian. It's all because of their fantasies about Rapture and the Apocalypse. They used to have religious tests in this country back in "the good old days." If you weren't a Protestant Christian you were persona non grata.
You don't need to tell me about it. I'm from an irish catholic family. My aunt and grandmother had pictures of JFK on their walls, with a palm cross behind it that was refreshed every palm sunday---and they weren't democrats.
I also remember being told by a protestant friend that i and all my family would be going to hell forever and ever, because we were catholics. When I was 7.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:53:57am |
re: #122 iceweasel
You don't need to tell me about it. I'm from an irish catholic family. My aunt and grandmother had pictures of JFK on their walls, with a palm cross behind it that was refreshed every palm sunday---and they weren't democrats.
I also remember being told by a protestant friend that i and all my family would be going to hell forever and ever, because we were catholics. When I was 7.
I never heard that from anyone about being Catholic. We were Catholics too even though I'm an atheist now. I did here some threats of physical violence and threats of death for being atheist. Also heard a lot of the old South American anti-Semitic madness from the Catholic end -- something about Jesus if you know what I mean. It's almost like they all fight this theological war for 1000s of years to no end.
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 2:57:06am |
They're still at it...
One of Ban Ki Moon's assistants is giving a press conference now... going into some of the details of the last minute negotiations.
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Gus Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:03:20am |
re: #124 freetoken
They're still at it...
One of Ban Ki Moon's assistants is giving a press conference now... going into some of the details of the last minute negotiations.
Here I thought they finished.
Goodnight all... peace, out...
Cannadian Club Akbar
Clemente
freetoken
iceweasel
windsagio
WindUpBird
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:04:36am |
re: #123 Gus 802
I never heard that from anyone about being Catholic. We were Catholics too even though I'm an atheist now. I did here some threats of physical violence and threats of death for being atheist. Also heard a lot of the old South American anti-Semitic madness from the Catholic end -- something about Jesus if you know what I mean. It's almost like they all fight this theological war for 1000s of years to no end.
Totally. Daniel Goldhagen's book, Hitler's Willing Executioners, traces the origins of genocidal sentiment in Germany to 'eliminationist antisemitism'-- basically religious adherence to blood libel crap. (his book has come under criticism, some of it justified IMO, but it's a really great book).
It's like they're fighting a religious war and almost no one even remembers what the old codes or old resentments are. BTW, fellow catholic atheist here. (as is Jimmah).
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:09:28am |
Walkin' Round in Women's Underwear
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:30:17am |
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:40:06am |
Just briefly surveyed the right-o-sphere... looking at so called reports about what happened in Copenhagen... and seeing what at best could be labeled propaganda.
Notably absent from any of them is a comprehensive look at what really transpired. Pretty much the NY Post view dominates, which means that there are cherry-picked statements from the usual characters (Chavez, Mugabe), while ignoring the overwhelming bulk of what was discussed.
What is so striking is how much they love Monckton's report of what happened to him... and Monckton's criticism of what happened to him while he was outdoors during the large protest (he was knocked down.) The irony is Monckton's criticism of what happened to him, and blaming the UNFCCC conference itself, is quite in line with Chavez's same criticism of the same event!
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:41:27am |
Meanwhile, back in Copenhagen, they are still going at it, and the delegates don't want to stop speaking...
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mardukhai Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:44:10am |
LGF now carries ads from Dianetics. Eeeeeeew. How mortifying!
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:45:07am |
re: #132 mardukhai
? I got not Dianetics ads? could be one of those smart ads that is targeted just for you?
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mardukhai Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:47:07am |
No, it's one of those new video ads near the top of the page.
Ick.
By the way, is anyone here following the Middle East anymore?
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:47:58am |
I got no ads. There's a wonderful plugin available for Firefox called AdBlock that...blocks ads. Makes pages load much faster and strips off all that cruft, Flash animation and other bandwidth-hogging baggage. Highly recommended.
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:48:40am |
re: #134 mardukhai
I see ads for SimCity, MSNBC, and some insurance company.
As for the MiddleEast... what is there to say? Pretty much business as usual.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 3:53:54am |
re: #134 mardukhai
No, it's one of those new video ads near the top of the page.
Ick.
By the way, is anyone here following the Middle East anymore?
How boring. Better class of trolls and sockpuppets, pls.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 4:02:54am |
re: #132 mardukhai
LGF now carries ads from Dianetics.
Dianetics has a permanent place on the NYT bestseller list due to group buys by scientologists. Look in the special section for 'trade paperback nonfiction' where "What to Expect When You're Expecting" also holds a permanent spot-- not because of group buys but because it's a bestseller.
I haven't seen a Dianetics ad here myself, but many blog ads involve an almost random content-- the blog owner doesn't always get to see and approve the ad content for the specific ad. In any case, this would be exactly like any bookstore in the country selling Dianetics (hint, they all do).
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 4:13:01am |
The judge in the Oklahoma abortion case has kept a restraining order in place until a February hearing, and denied the state's request to dismiss the case. The law would require those receiving abortions to fill out an intrusive questionnaire and would publish the information obtained online in a clear attempt to intimidate those requesting abortions. It also introduces several onerous penalties for doctors who don't adhere to a Byzantine set of rules and regulations to induce a further chill on the provider side.
Probably as good an outcome as could be hoped for at this stage.
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MandyManners Sat, Dec 19, 2009 4:18:41am |
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 4:25:19am |
Back in Copenhagen... they are still at it... A couple of delegates are trying their best to minimize the agreement that was reached, using that infamous diplomacy-fu ...
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 4:55:34am |
re: #142 freetoken
Back in Copenhagen... they are still at it... A couple of delegates are trying their best to minimize the agreement that was reached, using that infamous diplomacy-fu ...
Was there an "agreement reached" after Obama's very sad presser?
Surely it does not behoove anti-idiotarians to tolerate self-delusion and phony group-think.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:02:39am |
re: #136 freetoken
As for the MiddleEast... what is there to say? Pretty much business as usual.
I've got nothing to say
But it's okay
Good Morning, Good Morning, Good Morning, yeah.
/
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freetoken Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:15:59am |
re: #143 Spare O'Lake
Why do you call it a "sad presser"?
Anyway, because of the way the conference is organized under the UN, the only way for a document to be accepted is by "consensus", which means every nation agrees. The Bolivarians objected to the accord agreed upon by President Obama and 27 other nations, so the Conference did not accept the accord.
However, in order to actually make the accord real, the president of the conference toke "note" of the accord, so it is entered into conference documents.
They've spent the last 5 or 6 hours arguing how to specifically word the accord so that those disagreeing (Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia) and those agreeing (most everyone else) with the accord will be happy on how the whole process goes down in the records.
As the accord, the Copenhagen Accord, is not a legally binding treaty, it will not have to be submitted to the Senate for approval (as a treaty.) However, to pay for a share of the adaptation and mitigation funds for the least developed nations and the island states obviously Congress will have to fund it.
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:18:07am |
So, I finally located and got my flu shots. Not from the government, though - the county health department still has a bizarre system involving pre-registering so you can stand in line for hours with thousands of other people at a school or stadium, and might or might not get a shot for your trouble. The private marketplace came through, instead. I went to my local pharmacy to pick up 'scrips, and they had a sign up advertising both seasonal and H1N1 vaccines. Ten minutes later I was vaccinated, and also got a Pneumovax shot as well, which I had never heard of but qualified for. It protects against the 28 most common types of pneumonia bacteria. I'll need a booster in 15 years, if I'm still alive then.
The pneumovax, unfortunately, has made the lymph node in my left armpit swell up like a painful apricot, but apparently this isn't uncommon and will subside in a couple days.
Meanwhile, it is unbelievable how badly the government is botching distribution of flu vaccines. Maybe it's always like this - I've never bothered with flu shots before, but figured I'd thumb my nose at the anti-vax idiots this year. It's been a total clusterfuck for at least the last two months, and it took the private sector to finally come through.
But let's dismantle all that, and make sure everyone gets exactly the same, shitty care - or complete lack of care - everywhere.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:26:11am |
re: #146 SixDegrees
Maybe it's always like this - I've never bothered with flu shots before, but figured I'd thumb my nose at the anti-vax idiots this year. It's been a total clusterfuck for at least the last two months, and it took the private sector to finally come through.
But let's dismantle all that, and make sure everyone gets exactly the same, shitty care - or complete lack of care - everywhere.
So, you've never had a flu shot before, you now have a flu shot, and you've decided that whatever the new system is, you're against it. Even though you still have no idea what it is.
You'll have to pardon me for not taking your criticisms of this seriously, at least not til you can say something reasonable.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:26:18am |
Once they've had a day or two to digest the tragic failure of Copenhagen, I expect the Dem Administration to move on greener domestic energy by immediately proposing trillions in new spending on bold new research programs and fiscal initiatives in order to unleash the full power of the private sector and the scientific community -a program that will make the Manhattan Project and the Appollo Program pale in comparison.
And then Congress will then drop everything, cancel holdidays, roll up their sleeves, and pass the enabling and implementing legislation in a matter of days.
Full employment and prosperity will soon follow.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:31:34am |
Morning People! I woke up to a nice dusting of snow this morning, looks pretty out.
White Christmas:
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:32:12am |
That upding for Ice was for yesterday, Morning girl!
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:38:00am |
re: #15 WindUpBird
The way I'm feeling about my chances of getting my shopping done, the countdown should include some Joy Division and Leonard Cohen.
People who sing sad songs are smiling inside.
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:38:52am |
re: #147 iceweasel
In the past, there has never been a shortage or delay in vaccine - it's always available at the local drug stores, a fact which I've noted and blithely ignored until this year. This year, seasonal flu vaccine was not available, because of shortages caused by the Feds diverting production facilities to the manufacture of H1N1 vaccine. Meanwhile, the Feds and everyone else created a panic over both types, ranging from local newspapers urging parents to keep their kids home from school to schools actually closing because of a single case of suspected flu, all the way to the President declaring a national H1N1 emergency - while there was still no vaccine to be had. The limited supply of H1N1, as already noted, was distributed in the most inefficient, counterproductive manner possible, packing thousands of people into small spaces for hours with no guarantee of sufficient supply.
Now that supply has begun to catch up with demand and the government has taken their hamfisted mitts off it, the situation has improved to the point where I can once again walk into my local drugstore - without a wait - and get vaccinated. The county's approach to this was akin to a Kafka novel. Compare and contrast.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:40:33am |
re: #152 SixDegrees
In the past, there has never been a shortage or delay in vaccine - it's always available at the local drug stores, a fact which I've noted and blithely ignored until this year. This year, seasonal flu vaccine was not available, because of shortages caused by the Feds diverting production facilities to the manufacture of H1N1 vaccine.
How is it I got my flu shot at the pharmacy in September?
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:41:02am |
Off in search of Black Forest bacon at my local Polish meat market - the thoughtful, perfect Christmas gift. And to acquire ham supplies. A pork-centric day, leading up to a pork-tastic holiday.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:41:02am |
re: #150 RogueOne
That upding for Ice was for yesterday, Morning girl!
Hey babe! :) S'up?
BTW: no idea what you mean in re 'upding for yesterday', but just wanted to say thank you for sharing your personal story about the ways in which police (and prosecutors) can and do overstep the line.
I knew you were a person who cares about these issues and i respected for knowing more than I about them (because I do follow them and imagine I know a bit about them) -- your story broke my heart. Still does.
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:43:01am |
re: #153 Jeff In Ohio
How is it I got my flu shot at the pharmacy in September?
Beats me. Maybe your county or state does things properly.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:43:13am |
To our good friends in Copenhagen:
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:45:16am |
re: #156 SixDegrees
Beats me. Maybe your county or state does things properly.
Why would it matter what my state or county does if there is a shortage of vaccine?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:47:47am |
re: #152 SixDegrees
In the past, there has never been a shortage or delay in vaccine - it's always available at the local drug stores
Yeah, and 'the flu' always means the same flu, every year.////
And you admit you never had a flu shot before. So isn't it kind of odd (to say the least) that you're yowling about it not being-- what? Fast enough, convenient enough, free enough-- for you?
Get back to me when you feel like bitching about all the Americans who have no health care at all, rather than whining that your health care wasn't as quick as you would like it to be.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:48:11am |
re: #152 SixDegrees
In the past, there has never been a shortage or delay in vaccine - it's always available at the local drug stores, a fact which I've noted and blithely ignored until this year. This year, seasonal flu vaccine was not available, because of shortages caused by the Feds diverting production facilities to the manufacture of H1N1 vaccine.....
There has been a sign on our docs office door for months stating that same thing. They still don't have the regular flu shot available all this time later. My wife gets one every year, she managed to get one early in Indy at a drug store, but I've never had one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:48:59am |
What kind of farging icehole moron leaves his umbrella up on his patio furniture while expecting two feet of snow?
I am that kind of farging icehole moron!
GAH!
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:49:20am |
Short supply or increase demand?
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
"Federal officials and independent flu experts have said the situation was unavoidable, given that the global swine flu pandemic had raised demand for all flu shots far beyond what manufacturers can make in a year."
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:50:30am |
re: #155 iceweasel
Thanks. It's tough to see, that kid will have spent 1/2 his life in prison by the time he gets out at 33 all for, initially, a non-violent crime where the only "victim" was himself.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:50:53am |
re: #149 RogueOne
I had a nice dusting of snow to (two feet). And it's still snowing.
CURSE YOU AL GORE AND YOUR TERRIBLE WEATHER MACHINE!
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:51:50am |
re: #153 Jeff In Ohio
How is it I got my flu shot at the pharmacy in September?
You had the sooper seekrit vaccine reserved for Obama voters. ACORN made an X over your doorway in invisible chalk, and the Angel of Vaccine Denial passed over your house in silence. /////////////////////////////////////
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:52:36am |
re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had a nice dusting of snow to (two feet). And it's still snowing.
CURSE YOU AL GORE AND YOUR TERRIBLE WEATHER MACHINE!
HaHa. Better you than us, I'm not a snow kinda person. What part of the country are you in?
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:52:53am |
re: #158 Jeff In Ohio
Why would it matter what my state or county does if there is a shortage of vaccine?
I dunno. Did you have to drive 20 miles and stand in line with thousands of people for hours with no guarantee that you would receive a shot? If not, congratulations - your local distribution policies were sensible and actually worked.
Here, not so much.
Astonishingly, I just checked the county health department site, and - despite the apparent sufficient supply - they STILL are not encouraging people to visit their local pharmacies, STILL are not distributing the vaccine through their fairly extensive network of walk-in clinics, and are STILL organizing grossly inefficient mass innoculations with no guarantee of availability.
Which I guess is one thing about government you can always count on - once they decide to do something a certain way, that's the end of discussion, an no amount of fact or criticism or outright failure to achieve their original goals will sway them from The Plan.
Process over result. Cart in front of the horse.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:53:27am |
re: #166 RogueOne
Roanoke, VA. Home of the convicted racist William White (see thread yesterday!)
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:54:22am |
re: #167 SixDegrees
I was reading something yesterday about the advice being given to people in Detroit who are looking for work.....the advice was "Move".
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:54:41am |
re: #159 iceweasel
No, it's not odd at all. But that's only apparent if you actually read what I wrote, which I don't really expect you to do.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:54:56am |
re: #165 iceweasel
You had the sooper seekrit vaccine reserved for Obama voters. ACORN made an X over your doorway in invisible chalk, and the Angel of Vaccine Denial passed over your house in silence. ///
Yes! While all the rightys are sick with the flu in February, the commies who got their shots in September are going to seize control of the nations means of production, take over the airwaves and show these Tea Party folks what a revolution looks like.
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
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Guanxi88 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:56:05am |
"It is only when simplicity and refinement are blended harmoniously and complement each other that one will be Jun Zi (lit. 'son of a noble' or 'gentleman')" (L.Y., VI, 18).
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:56:32am |
re: #165 iceweasel
You had the sooper seekrit vaccine reserved for Obama voters. ACORN made an X over your doorway in invisible chalk, and the Angel of Vaccine Denial passed over your house in silence. ///
Wrong holiday.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:58:00am |
re: #167 SixDegrees
Gotcha, there's a distribution issue because the locals think the supply maybe constrained. That sucks. And apologies for jumping to conclusions and having fun with you.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:59:04am |
re: #163 RogueOne
Thanks. It's tough to see, that kid will have spent 1/2 his life in prison by the time he gets out at 33 all for, initially, a non-violent crime where the only "victim" was himself.
I genuinely felt like throwing up when I read your story. And I almost pointed out to someone that (if i was calculating the dates the right) that at the time you mentioned him (being 24, and having spent six years in prison)-- we're talking not only about a kid, but a kid who had THEN spent 25 percent of his life in prison.
horrific.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 5:59:59am |
re: #169 RogueOne
I was reading something yesterday about the advice being given to people in Detroit who are looking for work...the advice was "Move".
Confucius:
"When the Tao prevails in your own state, to be poor and obscure is a disgrace. But when the Tao does not prevail in your own state, to be rich and honored is a disgrace." (Analects 8:13)
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:01:15am |
re: #169 RogueOne
I was reading something yesterday about the advice being given to people in Detroit who are looking for work...the advice was "Move".
That is, indeed, the plan being put forward by some. I forget who it was, but an economist of some note suggested that there will never be a rebirth or recovery in Detroit, and instead of dumping resources on the city with such a vision in mind, those resources should be diverted to making sure people in the city can get enough of an education to find jobs somewhere else - presumably somewhere jobs are actually available.
Honestly, my opinion was that it was a prescription offered merely for shock value. It'll never gain traction. Although we do seem to be on the cusp of really major changes in the city, many of them probably quite bad, at least over the short term. Massive teacher layoffs and school closings are almost a certainty, now that teacher's unions have refused to grant even minor concessions to a district that is beyond bankrupt. And there's been a fairly large shakeup in city government, thanks to Kwame's departure and a big turnover in City Council membership.
But decades of rampant, entrenched corruption are probably so deeply rooted that even a scorched earth approach wouldn't eliminate it at this point.
As one local politician infamously suggested a few years ago, it might be best to just build a fence at the city limits and start handing out blankets and tobacco.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:02:22am |
re: #162 Jeff In Ohio
Short supply or increase demand?
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
"Federal officials and independent flu experts have said the situation was unavoidable, given that the global swine flu pandemic had raised demand for all flu shots far beyond what manufacturers can make in a year."
Both.
[Link: www.ncpa.org...]
Check out the graph showing how many manufacturers there are compared to previous decades. There just isn't that much money to be made producing vaccines.
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:02:25am |
re: #174 Jeff In Ohio
Gotcha, there's a distribution issue because the locals think the supply maybe constrained. That sucks. And apologies for jumping to conclusions and having fun with you.
Not a problem.
Not sure if that's the reason behind all the problems. All I'm doing is reporting the results.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:02:32am |
Y'all. If I never post again, please remember me well.
This is not a flounce. I am just going out with my shovel to remove two feet of snow from sidewalks, driveways and make a place for the dog to pee.
If I have a heart attack and die, there's no one to say goodbye for me.
So, if I don't see you again?
Live Fully, Love Well, Stay Lizard Fresh.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:03:30am |
re: #173 Spare O'Lake
Wrong holiday.
Sorry, pal. I know the holiday, and am making a joke as well as an allusion to a prior thread.
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:03:39am |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Y'all. If I never post again, please remember me well.
This is not a flounce. I am just going out with my shovel to remove two feet of snow from sidewalks, driveways and make a place for the dog to pee.
If I have a heart attack and die, there's no one to say goodbye for me.
So, if I don't see you again?
Live Fully, Love Well, Stay Lizard Fresh.
You know, all that snow is gonna melt eventually. Just wait it out.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:04:27am |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Y'all. If I never post again, please remember me well.
This is not a flounce. I am just going out with my shovel to remove two feet of snow from sidewalks, driveways and make a place for the dog to pee.
If I have a heart attack and die, there's no one to say goodbye for me.
So, if I don't see you again?
Live Fully, Love Well, Stay Lizard Fresh.
Rest in peace, my friend. Can I have your umbrella and snow shovel?
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:05:27am |
Time to play in the snow and pack the stove. Good day and good luck.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:07:46am |
re: #181 iceweasel
Sorry, pal. I know the holiday, and am making a joke as well as an allusion to a prior thread.
I will pass over your transgression.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:07:57am |
re: #169 RogueOne
I was reading something yesterday about the advice being given to people in Detroit who are looking for work...the advice was "Move".
Sad to say, but that's the most practical advice one can offer in the short-term. The city looks to be all but dead, as an economic entity, and it's a damned shame - in my own lifetime (and I'm not that old) Detroit was a shining example of everything "right" about the American way of life - a broad middle class of skilled workers contributing mightily to the wealth of the nation. Now look at it.
It's enough to make you weep, seeing the abandoned buildings and houses, realizing the absolute surrender that went on - and continues - there. All those houses, all those buildings, they were the concrete expression of hope and optimism, the solid embodiment of the hopes and aspirations of entire generations. Now, just so much rubble and debris.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:08:11am |
re: #175 iceweasel
Exactly. There is a misconception out there that federal pens are decent places to be locked up which isn't even close to reality. Maximum facilities, both state and federal, are brutal especially for fresh faced kids. No one in the family ever talks about it but we all know why he got his teeth knocked out within the first few weeks he was in.
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right_wing2 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:10:34am |
Good news! My better half is back from her TDY in Ft. Worth. We THINK that was the last trip down, but you never know when you're working with the government.
Anyone know what the 'Y' in TDY stands for?
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:11:43am |
re: #177 SixDegrees
Massive teacher layoffs and school closings are almost a certainty, now that teacher's unions have refused to grant even minor concessions to a district that is beyond bankrupt. And there's been a fairly large shakeup in city government, thanks to Kwame's departure and a big turnover in City Council membership.
But decades of rampant, entrenched corruption are probably so deeply rooted that even a scorched earth approach wouldn't eliminate it at this point.
As one local politician infamously suggested a few years ago, it might be best to just build a fence at the city limits and start handing out blankets and tobacco.
That's actually really sad. I remember reading something last week where the people of detroit want the teachers tossed in jail for their abject failure regarding the schools. My mom just loves the city, she grew up downtown in the 50's and 60's and she still has great memories of it's heyday.
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MandyManners Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:11:55am |
re: #153 Jeff In Ohio
How is it I got my flu shot at the pharmacy in September?
Was it the H1N1 shot or the regular shot?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:13:58am |
re: #185 Spare O'Lake
I will pass over your transgression.
I'm glad you'll forgive me my trespasses, as I'll forgive trespasses done unto me.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:14:24am |
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:15:22am |
re: #186 Guanxi88
Yeah. When Comcast bought out the cable company my wife worked for they offered people large increases and bonuses to move to their hq just outside detroit. 1/2 the people who went up in June/July have already quit and moved back.
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Guanxi88 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:18:46am |
re: #195 RogueOne
Yeah. When Comcast bought out the cable company my wife worked for they offered people large increases and bonuses to move to their hq just outside detroit. 1/2 the people who went up in June/July have already quit and moved back.
And it's not like anyone could blame them. My family - we lived in an old and dying industrial zone, and I recall hearing, as a child, about an uncle who scored a gig up in Detroit - you'd have thought they were talking about him ascending bodily to the Heavens of organized labor. We envied him and his family their good fortune, and I recall a big party being thrown in his honor, to mark his move up to the big time and a better life. In Detroit.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:18:50am |
re: #192 MandyManners
Did it snow somewhere yesterday?
Still is here. And I think that mother nature is racist because she made snow white.
/
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MandyManners Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:19:05am |
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MandyManners Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:19:39am |
re: #197 Mad Al-Jaffee
Still is here. And I think that mother nature is racist because she made snow white.
/
What about the Seven Dwarves?
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:23:27am |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:24:06am |
re: #159 iceweasel
Yeah, and 'the flu' always means the same flu, every year.///
And you admit you never had a flu shot before. So isn't it kind of odd (to say the least) that you're yowling about it not being-- what? Fast enough, convenient enough, free enough-- for you?
Get back to me when you feel like bitching about all the Americans who have no health care at all, rather than whining that your health care wasn't as quick as you would like it to be.
Whoa!
If health care is important, it's important for everyone, including those who have insurance. Actually, both the seasonal vaccine and the h1n1 vaccine, at least here, is more readily available at the local health units to those without insurance than it is to those with insurance.
I'm not complaining about it, just saying that the general scarcity of both vaccines is a problem we should be concerned about.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:25:10am |
re: #187 RogueOne
Exactly. There is a misconception out there that federal pens are decent places to be locked up which isn't even close to reality. Maximum facilities, both state and federal, are brutal especially for fresh faced kids. No one in the family ever talks about it but we all know why he got his teeth knocked out within the first few weeks he was in.
Of course. I don't know if you've seen it, (you probably know more than I about this) but HRW did a report on prison rape, which has not been covered at all, really, nationally. No one cares.
ps to lgf peeps: TRIGGER WARNING for the above link.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:25:23am |
re: #199 MandyManners
What about the Seven Dwarves?
Are ANY of them people of color?! I don't think so, and I rest my case.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:26:00am |
re: #196 Guanxi88
That's how my family ended up there. After my grandfather came back from WW2 he moved to Detroit from KY to find work. Now people are migrating the opposite direction.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:26:47am |
Morning, morning, morning...
Well, it's SAt. morning and Cato the Elder hasn't stirred yet. He will be heading out to continue his trip to Ca.
We did a three hour tour yesterday morning, visiting the Platte River, I showed him the massive burn areas around Deckers, One of the oldest still operating REAL general store in Colorado, and a special stop at the BuckSnort Bar in Sphinx Park in Elk Creek Canyon.
If you are even in the BuckSnort, you will see a dollar bill pinned to the ceiling (along with 100's of other dollar bills) signed, Cato the Elder 149BC.
Cato went to Miners Alley Playhouse last night, and got a very special reserved seat to a sold out performance of our "It's A Wonderful Life."
And for those who are interested, that's not an avatar on his user profile, that's really him.
And don't tell Cato, but we found a blow-up plastic Sarah Palin doll in his overnight bag. Nasty.
/
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:27:00am |
re: #201 reine.de.tout
Whoa!
If health care is important, it's important for everyone, including those who have insurance. Actually, both the seasonal vaccine and the h1n1 vaccine, at least here, is more readily available at the local health units to those without insurance than it is to those with insurance.I'm not complaining about it, just saying that the general scarcity of both vaccines is a problem we should be concerned about.
We agree. My comment was sarcastic.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:27:37am |
To Steve G Yes it is snowing in Philly. Since this storm came with its own moisture we are seeing lots of white. When it ends I am going to shovel the mess and I hope the neighbor's kids to shuffle it back onto my pavement.
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Obdicut Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:28:39am |
re: #202 iceweasel
I think that we imprison a larger percentage of our citizens than the Soviet Union did is a very bad sign.
Private prisons should not exist. Profitability should not be combined with putting people in prison. It's a terrible combo.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:29:26am |
re: #205 Walter L. Newton
hey walter, do tell cato hello from me, will you? Also, I'm glad you are both having fun!
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Jadespring Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:29:40am |
So Palin was supposed to speak at a foundation fundraiser for hospitals in Hamilton Ontario. She was to be paid 200,000 for the appearance. There was such a backlash though with other donors saying they wouldn't be donating and apparently the ticket sales so dismal that she was booted from it.
She's still apparently coming but is going to do something for some sort of kids charity.
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right_wing2 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:29:59am |
re: #202 iceweasel
Prison rape (and other, primarily prisoner on prisoner violence) is something that desperately needs to be stopped. I don't know what the solution might be, either. Maybe 1 man cells?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:31:33am |
re: #205 Walter L. Newton
Good to know you survived the three hour tour.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:32:15am |
re: #210 Jadespring
So Palin was supposed to speak at a foundation fundraiser for hospitals in Hamilton Ontario. She was to be paid 200,000 for the appearance. There was such a backlash though with other donors saying they wouldn't be donating and apparently the ticket sales so dismal that she was booted from it.
She's still apparently coming but is going to do something for some sort of kids charity.
The Hammer never had much class.
;D
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Lidane Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:32:49am |
re: #122 iceweasel
I also remember being told by a protestant friend that i and all my family would be going to hell forever and ever, because we were catholics. When I was 7.
Oh, I used to get Chick tracts every Halloween from some fundie evangelical types in my neighborhood that told me that not only was I an unforgivable reprobate for going trick-or-treating, but that my family and I would burn in Hell for eternity because we were Catholic.
I shake my head and laugh about their ignorance now, but at the time, it made me really resent them.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:34:10am |
re: #209 iceweasel
hey walter, do tell cato hello from me, will you? Also, I'm glad you are both having fun!
I will. He should be up and out of here in the hour.
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Jadespring Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:35:43am |
re: #213 Spare O'Lake
The Hammer never had much class.
;D
The Hammer? I'm lost. Is that referring to Hamilton? :)
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:36:02am |
re: #212 Mad Al-Jaffee
Good to know you survived the three hour tour.
It was nice. Weather is wonderful here right now, cold, but clear this week, so we were able to do a mini-road trip without having to worrying about changing Colorado weather (which can change in hours).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:36:43am |
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:37:32am |
re: #215 Walter L. Newton
I will. He should be up and out of here in the hour.
Deckers burned down?....what a shame, very beautiful up there...used to go tubing and general river fun along there...that's where I saw the rare Rocky Mt goats
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:37:34am |
re: #202 iceweasel
I remember that study. Sadly, people still joke about prison rape. When my sisters brother first got put in he told her he intentionally took a swing at a guard just so he could get put in lockdown where he'd be locked up in a cell 23 out of 24 hrs just so he'd feel safe. The reality is the only way to survive is to either be protected by a gang or get locked down.
Semi-luckily for him he's a 1/4 sioux (grandpa lives on a reservation in s. dakota). There's a big problem with drugs on those reservations so now he has a bunch of native americans he can hang with. In the fed system they even allow them sweat lodge privileges which at least gives him something to look forward to on a weekly basis.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:38:56am |
The local weather people were predicting "thunder snow" this weekend. We got the snow, but not the thunder yet.
I decided to make a drink in honor of the forecast. Brew some strong coffee (for me it was a small brewed made on my stovetop moka pot - espresso is even better.) Add it to a mug and to that add one shot of bourbon and one shot of kahlua or Bailey's. Froth some milk in a big coffee mug, add the coffee/booze mix and lightly stir. I call it the Thunder Snow! Enjoy.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:39:14am |
re: #219 albusteve
Deckers burned down?...what a shame, very beautiful up there...used to go tubing and general river fun along there...that's where I saw the rare Rocky Mt goats
No, Decker didn't burn, but a lot of the forest around that whole area was burned, stripped clean by the Harmon and Elk Creek fires which combine all at the same time. That was the fire started by the Park Department woman who wanted to be a hero and fight a big fire, well, she got a big fire all right.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:39:29am |
re: #211 right_wing2
Prison rape (and other, primarily prisoner on prisoner violence) is something that desperately needs to be stopped. I don't know what the solution might be, either. Maybe 1 man cells?
I don't know what the solution could be. Rape in US prisons is systematic and aided and abetted by guards and other prisoners. Read the HRW report I linked-- the testimonies of the victims. It will give you nightmares. For months.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:39:50am |
re: #220 RogueOne
I remember a comedian once, thrown in jail. Was terrified. Prisoners in the holding cell said, "What are you in here for?" He said, "Man, I don't know. I've got AIDS and they don't know where to put me." They left him alone.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:40:55am |
re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was in the 90's. AIDS was a lot scarier then.... now... still scary... but back then?...
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:41:10am |
On a lighter not, I read this yesterday and I'm having a problem trying to decide if it's wrong. It feels wrong but who am I to say?
[Link: consumerist.com...]
Bob Cringely and his family send out family portrait cards every year for Christmas, and the gimmick is the entire family is nude, but not really nude: all the naughty parts are hidden away behind carefully placed props or accessories. The Fedex Kinko's in Charleston, SC doesn't appreciate his family's sense of humor--the woman there even remembered him from last year, and not in a good way.
Link to the guys blog and a pic of the x-mas card:
[Link: www.cringely.com...]
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:41:19am |
re: #222 Walter L. Newton
No, Decker didn't burn, but a lot of the forest around that whole area was burned, stripped clean by the Harmon and Elk Creek fires which combine all at the same time. That was the fire started by the Park Department woman who wanted to be a hero and fight a big fire, well, she got a big fire all right.
sad..I have fond memories of that area...it was a fun, quick place to get to from Denver for some RandR...forest fire is everybody's worst nightmare in the west
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:43:45am |
re: #216 Jadespring
The Hammer? I'm lost. Is that referring to Hamilton? :)
Beautiful Hamilton...a.k.a. Steeltown...Ambitious City...Steel City...the Hammer...Lunchbucket City, as well as the Armpit of Ontario and Scumilton.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:43:58am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Got a little snow last night..We are supposed to have a white Christmas here this year
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:44:22am |
re: #226 RogueOne
On a lighter not, I read this yesterday and I'm having a problem trying to decide if it's wrong. It feels wrong but who am I to say?
Doh! PIMF. "On a lighter note"
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:45:27am |
re: #229 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
Got a little snow last night..We are supposed to have a white Christmas here this year
You get snow for Xmas, I get a visit from Cato the Elder, all I need now is Iceweasel... :)
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:45:45am |
re: #177 SixDegrees
That is, indeed, the plan being put forward by some. I forget who it was, but an economist of some note suggested that there will never be a rebirth or recovery in Detroit, and instead of dumping resources on the city with such a vision in mind, those resources should be diverted to making sure people in the city can get enough of an education to find jobs somewhere else - presumably somewhere jobs are actually available.
Honestly, my opinion was that it was a prescription offered merely for shock value. It'll never gain traction. Although we do seem to be on the cusp of really major changes in the city, many of them probably quite bad, at least over the short term. Massive teacher layoffs and school closings are almost a certainty, now that teacher's unions have refused to grant even minor concessions to a district that is beyond bankrupt. And there's been a fairly large shakeup in city government, thanks to Kwame's departure and a big turnover in City Council membership.
But decades of rampant, entrenched corruption are probably so deeply rooted that even a scorched earth approach wouldn't eliminate it at this point.
As one local politician infamously suggested a few years ago, it might be best to just build a fence at the city limits and start handing out blankets and tobacco.
Good moring, Lizards!
I wanted to say something about Detroit. The city where I grew up. It was terrific with the layout of main arteries like spokes of a wheel leading to the (downtown) hub which was beautifully located adjacent to the Detroit River. Easy to get around. Factories of all sizes with small and medium shops everywhere. On a hot summer night when all was very still I could barely hear the din of the factories which were not close by at all. Public transportation was convenient and everywhere.
Entrenched corruption. Too bad.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:45:53am |
re: #229 HoosierHoops
Mornin hoosier, we got less than an inch up here in Mad. County. Really wet snow.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:46:43am |
re: #227 albusteve
sad..I have fond memories of that area...it was a fun, quick place to get to from Denver for some RandR...forest fire is everybody's worst nightmare in the west
I told you to get your butt up here some day. The same accommodations are available to you and any other sane Lizards.
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charlz Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:48:02am |
re: #122 iceweasel
I also remember being told by a protestant friend that i and all my family would be going to hell forever and ever, because we were catholics.
I remember my catholic friends as a kid having a lot more opportunity to go to hell -- it was a sin to eat fish on Friday, to watch banned movies, to chew the communion wafer, etc etc. That was 50 years ago tho.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:50:10am |
re: #232 Semper Fi
Good moring, Lizards!
I wanted to say something about Detroit. The city where I grew up. It was terrific with the layout of main arteries like spokes of a wheel leading to the (downtown) hub which was beautifully located adjacent to the Detroit River. Easy to get around. Factories of all sizes with small and medium shops everywhere. On a hot summer night when all was very still I could barely hear the din of the factories which were not close by at all. Public transportation was convenient and everywhere.
Entrenched corruption. Too bad.
I'm from Kalamazoo, so DayTwa was one place to go for concerts, pro sports, the cool Grand Prix, Greek Town, the car show....stayed way up in the Ren Center one time, looking down on the statue of Joe Louis...had alot of fun times there...long ago
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:53:07am |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
You get snow for Xmas, I get a visit from Cato the Elder, all I need now is Iceweasel... :)
This will be the first white Christmas since I moved to Indiana from California..
So my first white christmas ever
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:53:10am |
re: #234 Walter L. Newton
I told you to get your butt up here some day. The same accommodations are available to you and any other sane Lizards.
I may just do that...curl around and come down from the west, visit Aspen again
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:54:22am |
re: #233 RogueOne
Mornin hoosier, we got less than an inch up here in Mad. County. Really wet snow.
We better have a white Christmas!
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stayfrosty Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:55:25am |
The prose in Snow Country is beautiful (both the Japanese and English translation), but I found the story's meandering unbearable. My favorite Japanese writer is Yukio Mishima. His The Temple of the Golden Pavillion is probably my all-time favorite book.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:55:28am |
re: #237 HoosierHoops
This will be the first white Christmas since I moved to Indiana from California..
So my first white christmas ever
ha!...good for you then...I hope you get a minor little mini blizzard so everything is well coated, but no real problem...they play golf in ABQ on Christmas day, not the same thing at all
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:55:37am |
re: #234 Walter L. Newton
I told you to get your butt up here some day. The same accommodations are available to you and any other sane Lizards.
How far are you from the Denver Airport?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:57:34am |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
You get snow for Xmas, I get a visit from Cato the Elder, all I need now is Iceweasel... :)
What, because a visit from me will cut down on your time in purgatory?
(joke for the catholics, and catholic atheists).
Kidding!
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:59:38am |
re: #236 albusteve
I'm from Kalamazoo, so DayTwa was one place to go for concerts, pro sports, the cool Grand Prix, Greek Town, the car show...stayed way up in the Ren Center one time, looking down on the statue of Joe Louis...had alot of fun times there...long ago
Thanks. That takes me back. Such an exciting city. I was born not far away in Jackson and lived in Detroit from age 8 to age 24. Practically lived in Tiger (then Briggs) Stadium during baseball season.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:59:52am |
re: #243 iceweasel
What, because a visit from me will cut down on your time in purgatory?
(joke for the catholics, and catholic atheists).Kidding!
I'll bet having a pint with you and Jimmah would be a blast!
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Dec 19, 2009 6:59:59am |
Have some Korean Christmas lights. Click through, hit the HD button, and use full screen.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:00:05am |
re: #242 HoosierHoops
How far are you from the Denver Airport?
55 miles west. Hell, Denver International Airport practically in Kansas.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:00:42am |
I can't wait to take the dogs out in the snow and watch them play. Actually, I can wait. I don't feel like putting my boots and parka on to go outside, and the dogs are old ones who just want to sleep this morning. So I'll wait until this afternoon.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:01:38am |
re: #243 iceweasel
What, because a visit from me will cut down on your time in purgatory?
(joke for the catholics, and catholic atheists).Kidding!
Ha...
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:02:13am |
re: #247 Walter L. Newton
55 miles west. Hell, Denver International Airport practically in Kansas.
55 mi around here is just up to Rio Rancho and back...pffft
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:03:30am |
re: #247 Walter L. Newton
55 miles west. Hell, Denver International Airport practically in Kansas.
I have frequent flyer miles on frontier so I fly through denver to go home to California
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:03:57am |
re: #240 stayfrosty
The prose in Snow Country is beautiful (both the Japanese and English translation), but I found the story's meandering unbearable. My favorite Japanese writer is Yukio Mishima. His The Temple of the Golden Pavillion is probably my all-time favorite book.
I recommend Shusaku Endo's Silence. Set in the 16th century, Portuguese missionaries sneak into Japan to help the underground Catholic church. Persecutions, escapes and unexpected revelations about themselves ensue.
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:03:57am |
re: #237 HoosierHoops
This will be the first white Christmas since I moved to Indiana from California..
So my first white christmas ever
Good morning, Hoosier. Wanted to ask that you take me off the prayer list. Jim has recovered and it was a battle indeed. In the hospital 42 days with 3 surgeries including a serious bout with infection. Prayer works. Thanks.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:05:48am |
re: #253 Semper Fi
Good morning, Hoosier. Wanted to ask that you take me off the prayer list. Jim has recovered and it was a battle indeed. In the hospital 42 days with 3 surgeries including a serious bout with infection. Prayer works. Thanks.
Good Morning..I've removed your friend...Great news!
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:06:12am |
re: #244 Semper Fi
Thanks. That takes me back. Such an exciting city. I was born not far away in Jackson and lived in Detroit from age 8 to age 24. Practically lived in Tiger (then Briggs) Stadium during baseball season.
I remember Norm Cash bouncing a homer off the light tower high above right field...Tiger Staduim is where I shook Ted Williams hand and later see the Tigers make their 35-4 dash...ahh yes
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:07:39am |
re: #235 charlz
I remember my catholic friends as a kid having a lot more opportunity to go to hell -- it was a sin to eat fish on Friday, to watch banned movies, to chew the communion wafer, etc etc. That was 50 years ago tho.
The Catholics are kinda of brilliant, in a totally insane way, in creating the category of 'sins of omission' (rather than merely sins of comission--sins one has commited) in other words, one is guilty not only for what one does, but for what one fails to do-- if you didn't help the old lady across the street, you are guilty. Etc.
BTW, I was born long after vatican II-- but my parents and the parents of everyone I knew insisted on having pizza on fridays. It was a crazy way of adhering to the pre-vatican 2 "fish on fridays" laws.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:07:56am |
re: #250 albusteve
I picked up a hobo south of Colorado Springs and took him to Albuquerque.
Oh. You are welcome.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:08:23am |
Good morning all. A bit OT but it looks like Senator Nelson will be supporting healthcare reform.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:09:05am |
re: #243 iceweasel
What, because a visit from me will cut down on your time in purgatory?
(joke for the catholics, and catholic atheists).Kidding!
aw hell, now that was funny.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:09:20am |
I know some around here were talking about the Chavez speech at Copenhagen but I hadn't heard this part:
[Link: reason.com...]
Chavez is sticking to the theory that the United States is more useful as an adversary, regardless of who inhabits the White House. This goes some way toward explaining why, in a little noticed outburst yesterday in Copenhagen, he warned that the Americans, in concert with the Dutch (!), were still planning on invading Venezuela.
Those Dutch are sneaky
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:09:47am |
re: #245 HoosierHoops
I'll bet having a pint with you and Jimmah would be a blast!
Dunno, Hoops, but we'd love to see you. :-)
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:10:02am |
re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I picked up a hobo south of Colorado Springs and took him to Albuquerque.
Sounds like a bugs bunny bit.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:10:59am |
re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I picked up a hobo south of Colorado Springs and took him to Albuquerque.
Oh. You are welcome.
there are a lot of modern day hobos down here, not drunken bums but homeless wanderers...they are well treated here and nobody bothers them...and the climate is mild
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:11:34am |
re: #245 HoosierHoops
I'll bet having a pint with you and Jimmah would be a blast!
Hey, you're a Hoosier now. We don't do "pints", that's for fereigners.//
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:14:03am |
re: #264 RogueOne
Hey, you're a Hoosier now. We don't do "pints", that's for fereigners.//
I really need a pick up truck with a gun rack...Then i will be a Hoosier!
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:14:05am |
re: #255 albusteve
I remember Norm Cash bouncing a homer off the light tower high above right field...Tiger Staduim is where I shook Ted Williams hand and later see the Tigers make their 35-4 dash...ahh yes
The 35 - 4. Wow! That was indeed exceptional. That's why I knew this was not their year. When they're on a roll they beat everyone in their own stadiums. Not so this year. I've watched Hank Greenburg hit them into the street behind left field.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:16:18am |
re: #259 reine.de.tout
aw hell, now that was funny.
Upding,, and a thank you for getting it.
hey!
I know you'll get it when I make certain jokes that require a catholic education-- cato is the only other person who I know for sure will get certain (semi-abtruse) allusions. thanks. :-)
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:16:25am |
re: #255 albusteve
I remember Norm Cash bouncing a homer off the light tower high above right field...Tiger Staduim is where I shook Ted Williams hand and later see the Tigers make their 35-4 dash...ahh yes
Ted Williams. Wanted to add, I would have liked to shake his hand. Wow!
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:18:34am |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
I really need a pick up truck with a gun rack...Then i will be a Hoosier!
All you need is a cap with a seed brand on it and you'll be fine. I moved from downtown cincinnati (via detroit) to the middle of a corn field in hancock county. All the kids at my new school were wearing "John Deere" hats and I just figured it was some hillbilly band. I had never seen a tractor in my life.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:19:59am |
re: #268 Semper Fi
Ted Williams. Wanted to add, I would have liked to shake his hand. Wow!
I grew up watching the Giants at Candlestick..My favorite thing to do was heckle Pete Rose during BP when the Reds came to town.
/Hey Pete Rose! What does a man really want in an Aftershave?! He stopped once and turned around and looked at this little kid and just shook his head..I was so proud...
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:20:28am |
re: #268 Semper Fi
Ted Williams. Wanted to add, I would have liked to shake his hand. Wow!
he was managing the Senators...I was standing behind their dugout for no reason before the game and up he popped and turned around and there I was not 10 feet away...I put my hand out over the rail and he walked over and shook it...and he was smiling(well known grump)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:21:05am |
re: #263 albusteve
there are a lot of modern day hobos down here, not drunken bums but homeless wanderers...they are well treated here and nobody bothers them...and the climate is mild
He was totally one of the "homeless wanderers". Adventure type of guy. "Butch the Plumber" was what I called him. Plumber by trade... took him to a shelter in Albq. Checked back... a few days later. He was still there. But had been put to work on several plumbing things down there. He was leaving in a few days.
Was a very interesting guy. Made me think of the guys in the movie "The Emperor of the North".
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:21:58am |
re: #270 HoosierHoops
I grew up watching the Giants at Candlestick..My favorite thing to do was heckle Pete Rose during BP when the Reds came to town.
/Hey Pete Rose! What does a man really want in an Aftershave?! He stopped once and turned around and looked at this little kid and just shook his head..I was so proud...
Bad mouthing Pete Rose? That's a downding! (and then removed because I felt bad/)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:23:28am |
re: #269 RogueOne
We took a city boy to our family farm one weekend. Dad told him, "We've got one bull that you can't milk." He said, "Mr. D? You show me that GD bull; I'll milk him."
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:25:01am |
re: #273 RogueOne
Bad mouthing Pete Rose? That's a downding! (and then removed because I felt bad/)
We hated the dodgers also...Willie McCovey was my hero...I think he would have been a great power forward in Basketball.
Love the Giants!!
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:25:03am |
re: #267 iceweasel
Upding,, and a thank you for getting it.
hey!
I know you'll get it when I make certain jokes that require a catholic education-- cato is the only other person who I know for sure will get certain (semi-abtruse) allusions. thanks. :-)
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:26:00am |
re: #270 HoosierHoops
I grew up watching the Giants at Candlestick..My favorite thing to do was heckle Pete Rose during BP when the Reds came to town.
/Hey Pete Rose! What does a man really want in an Aftershave?! He stopped once and turned around and looked at this little kid and just shook his head..I was so proud...
It seems there's just something about baseball..........
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:27:22am |
re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He was totally one of the "homeless wanderers". Adventure type of guy. "Butch the Plumber" was what I called him. Plumber by trade... took him to a shelter in Albq. Checked back... a few days later. He was still there. But had been put to work on several plumbing things down there. He was leaving in a few days.
Was a very interesting guy. Made me think of the guys in the movie "The Emperor of the North".
yes just that type...HUGE packs oin their back with everything they own, darkly tanned, longer hair and beards, always looking for work...I think it's a life they choose and that's cool...I have yet to see a drunk sprawled out, or a totally wiped out, destitute person...there are lots of shelters and kitchens...poverty is common in NM, there is no disrespect for those so stricken
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stayfrosty Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:28:24am |
re: #252 The Sanity Inspector
I recommend Shusaku Endo's Silence. Set in the 16th century, Portuguese missionaries sneak into Japan to help the underground Catholic church. Persecutions, escapes and unexpected revelations about themselves ensue.
Read it and loved it. :) Endo is also very good.
(I live in Japan and minored in Japanese in university, so if you have any other suggestions I've not read, I'd be interested to hear them.)
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:28:33am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My bf in high school family had a small working farm. One of the times I had gotten their son in trouble again his dad told him that I was just trouble but "nothing that some time on the tractor wouldn't fix". I still get a chuckle picturing me on a tractor.
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:30:10am |
re: #271 albusteve
he was managing the Senators...I was standing behind their dugout for no reason before the game and up he popped and turned around and there I was not 10 feet away...I put my hand out over the rail and he walked over and shook it...and he was smiling(well known grump)
Yes, now that you mention, he was known as a grump. Is his remains still preserved in a cryogenic tube??
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:31:24am |
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:32:07am |
re: #281 Semper Fi
Yes, now that you mention, he was known as a grump. Is his remains still preserved in a cryogenic tube??
yes, his children have been fighting over that deal for years...really a bunch of asses
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:33:43am |
re: #277 Semper Fi
It seems there's just something about baseball...
And being a kid..oh all those Saturday games at the ballpark...
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:33:43am |
re: #282 iceweasel
So.....you were a catholic schoolgirl? Pics or it didn't happen.///
Where's Jimmah, we have questions we need answers to!//
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:36:11am |
re: #285 RogueOne
So...you were a catholic schoolgirl? Pics or it didn't happen.///
Where's Jimmah, we have questions we need answers to!//
Now I got Zappa's song ' Catholic girls' in my head...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:38:22am |
Watching Jurassic Park. Dr. Ian Malcolm is going off... I love that character in the movie.
Reminds me of some lizards.
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:38:45am |
re: #284 HoosierHoops
And being a kid..oh all those Saturday games at the ballpark...
How about the hot dogs. They had coneys in Detroit. Was it the same in Candlestick?
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:41:03am |
re: #288 Semper Fi
How about the hot dogs. They had coneys in Detroit. Was it the same in Candlestick?
I had never heard of a coney dog in California...I hate hot dogs
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:41:09am |
re: #102 iceweasel
I have always found that the people at Cook's Illustrated do the greatest job in demystifying the multitude of food processes. They offer a free online trial membership thingy, if that's worth your bother. From them, I learned a simple method. The thickness of the steak will affect timing, but try:
Heat a heavy skillet (preferably oven-ready) over med-high heat. Add up to a tbsp of oil, heat pan until the oil begins to smoke. Salt and pepper your steaks, preheat your oven to 300(F). Place the steak in the pan, leave it for 3-4 minutes depending on the thickness; flip the steak, leave for another 3 min. Place the pan in the preheated oven for 10 minutes, let the steaks rest for 5 minutes and carnivore yourselves into a happy stupor.
(Incidentally, these particulars are based on cuts approx 1.5 inches thick, and result in a fairly consistent medium rare.)
This method works for me. (Cook's has also recommended a method that actually reverses these tasks, and it works pretty well, too....
Hope this is helpful!
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:42:06am |
Oops. I'm sure the fact that this guy looks hispanic had nothing to do with it.
[Link: calcoastnews.com...]
San Luis Obispo taxpayers are in line to pay $195,000 to a local business owner for alleged excessive force by police officers during a case of mistaken identity and police negligence.
Attorneys for both the city and Jeff Milne, owner of Babbo’s Pizzeria, have agreed to accept mediator Dave Peterson’s settlement suggestion.
......
In July 2007, Milne arrived home after hiking up Bishop’s Peak, took off his shirt, shoes and socks and was settling down to watch television when four police officers descended on his home at 366 Christina and banged on the front door. Milne readily admitted the officers to a living room decorated with pictures of him and his family, asking, “I live here. What’s going on?”According to court records, the officers ordered Milne to place his hands in the air and began frisking him. Upon discovering a knife in his pocket the officers pepper sprayed Milne and threw him face first to the ground.
And then it went downhill from there. After smacking him around awhile....
After the cops had conferred among themselves, Milne was booked into County Jail, charged with resisting arrest and obstructing an officer. He spent the night behind bars, dressed only in a pair of jeans.
The prosecutor actually had the balls to try to convict him. $195k isn't enough of a penalty for the city. The prosecutor should have to chip in personally.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:43:06am |
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:43:46am |
re: #289 HoosierHoops
I had never heard of a coney dog in California...I hate hot dogs
When younger my taste buds ruled and I ate them like candy. Nowadays though, no dogs.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:43:51am |
re: #288 Semper Fi
How about the hot dogs. They had coneys in Detroit. Was it the same in Candlestick?
I remember a guy in Detroit selling peanuts....he'd set his box down and had a cool sales chant he'd go thru...he'd juggle the bags then toss them way down the line, or up in the air, behind his back, two bags at a time to different people....the fans would just collect all the money moving down the row and hand it to him and off he'd go down the way and do it all over again
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:45:43am |
re: #283 albusteve
yes, his children have been fighting over that deal for years...really a bunch of asses
That seems so sad. I do hope that's eventually turned around.
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:48:08am |
re: #294 albusteve
I remember a guy in Detroit selling peanuts...he'd set his box down and had a cool sales chant he'd go thru...he'd juggle the bags then toss them way down the line, or up in the air, behind his back, two bags at a time to different people...the fans would just collect all the money moving down the row and hand it to him and off he'd go down the way and do it all over again
What a pleasant memory that brought back. The accuracy of the peanut man was astounding. I've never seen anything like it since.
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:48:27am |
re: #294 albusteve
Having been away from Cali for decades, I returned to Northern CA in '94. Went to a Giants game at the 'Stick, great seats down the 3rd-base line, relaxing, listening to the food barkers:
"Cold Beer!"
"Peanuts! Pretzels!"
"Hot Dog, get your Hot Dog!"
"Caesar Salad, get yer Caesar Salad right here...."
No kidding. I knew I was back in CA.....
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:49:02am |
re: #290 Slap
Thank you so much! I'll try it and get back to you.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:49:26am |
Since when has every weather incident, every storm, every NATURAL and normal yearly climate activity become a MAJOR news story. They treat these things like it never ever happens.
Bullshit. I lived on the east coast for 24 years. I live in North Jersey for 14 of those years, and in the winter, I didn't see the blacktop on the road in front of my house for 4 months during the winter.
This is bullshit. It's winter, it happens... all the time.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:49:41am |
re: #291 RogueOne
“According to court records, police officers allege that none of their on-scene radios or police cameras were working during the arrest of Milne. In addition, officers claim that interrogation room audio and video recording equipment malfunctioned during the questioning of Milne, leaving no recordings available for the trial.”
That's shitty.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:50:06am |
re: #296 Semper Fi
What a pleasant memory that brought back. The accuracy of the peanut man was astounding. I've never seen anything like it since.
I knew a guy at the ballpark that did that with Sloppy Joe's.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:50:37am |
Dr. Ian Malcolm: The lack of humility before nature that's being displayed here, uh... staggers me.
-Jurassic Park
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:51:45am |
re: #285 RogueOne
So...you were a catholic schoolgirl? Pics or it didn't happen.///
Where's Jimmah, we have questions we need answers to!//
I can confirm that iceweasel was a catholic schoolgirl, yes - the uniforms are modeled in this video :
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:52:27am |
re: #297 Slap
Having been away from Cali for decades, I returned to Northern CA in '94. Went to a Giants game at the 'Stick, great seats down the 3rd-base line, relaxing, listening to the food barkers:
"Cold Beer!"
"Peanuts! Pretzels!"
"Hot Dog, get your Hot Dog!"
"Caesar Salad, get yer Caesar Salad right here..."
No kidding. I knew I was back in CA...
Caesar Salad in Candlestick? I've never been to Candlestick. That's so California.
I wonder if they have hogies in Philly?
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:52:41am |
re: #298 iceweasel
My pleasure. Always happy to encourage the proper use of carnivore teeth....!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:52:49am |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
Now now nwo, Walter. You know as well as I do. When we were young, all those storms were just the weather. Now it's much worse and serious because of the climate
/
BTW ,,, is your house pest ,, umm,, guest still with you !?!?!
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:53:33am |
re: #301 Walter L. Newton
I knew a guy at the ballpark that did that with Sloppy Joe's.
Surely, it was tightly wrapped??
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:53:34am |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
The earth is mad that nothing was accomplished at the Copenhagen Conference so she's not going to let anyone on the east coast go christmas shopping. That will teach those 45,000 attendees to get something done next time.
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:53:58am |
re: #305 Semper Fi
I haven't been to the new park yet, but you can definitely get sushi now, as well.....
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:54:31am |
re: #300 Stanley Sea
“According to court records, police officers allege that none of their on-scene radios or police cameras were working during the arrest of Milne. In addition, officers claim that interrogation room audio and video recording equipment malfunctioned during the questioning of Milne, leaving no recordings available for the trial.”
That's shitty.
Reminded me of this Chappelle bit.
Scroll ahead to the 7:45 mark to get to the most relevant part:
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:54:47am |
Dr. Ian Malcolm: God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs...
Dr. Ellie Sattler: Dinosaurs eat man. Woman inherits the earth...
-Jurassic Park...
Dr. Malcolm is really quotable...
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rurality Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:55:08am |
re: #285 RogueOne
Memories of a Catholic Childhood is excellent, tho I'm sure even more interesting if you have a C. background. I just finished a terrific book, Lit, by the poet Mary Karr, third in her wonderful memoir trilogy. She goes from atheist to catholic convert and I found it interesting and kinda understandable in a way other authors conversions weren't. This conversion was ushered in by grueling trip to sobriety, not a coincidence, I assume.
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rurality Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:57:53am |
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:58:59am |
re: #310 Slap
I haven't been to the new park yet, but you can definitely get sushi now, as well...
Oh! I see, The City does have a large Asian population.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:59:29am |
re: #314 rurality
I was wondering but I figured you wanted me to know for a reason so I updinged it anyway.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 7:59:40am |
Last one...
Dr. Ian Malcolm: If there is one thing the history of evolution has taught us it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free, expands to new territory, and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously.
-Jurassic Park
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:00:31am |
re: #292 reine.de.tout
Just ordered it.
Looks interesting.
I think you will like it.
McCarthy was brilliant; the book is about her childhood, mostly. but it's interesting for many reasons.
She;s someone whom I think you in particular would like. She was very strong, very smart, very Catholic, and although she rejected Catholicism (and all religions) eventually, she remained a staunch defender of Catholicism and Catholic education all her life. (Which is basically also my own position, in many ways.)
That specific book isn't about any of that; it's about her childhood and being Catholic and female.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:00:32am |
King of California 3 stars
an unstable musician tries to convince his daughter that spanish gold is buried in the suburbs (Drama)
Awesome freaking movie! Best of the saturday morning movies I've seen in months..
| 321 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:01:40am |
re: #286 HoosierHoops
Now I got Zappa's song ' Catholic girls' in my head...
Some of my most fun girlfriends were Catholic. Mmmm, Catholic girls.
| 322 |
son of a son Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:02:15am |
Mmgw = Mann made global warming is a fact. The hockey stick guy dit it. I don't deny it.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:04:12am |
re: #322 son of a son
tfk, is that you?
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:04:41am |
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:05:11am |
re: #146 SixDegrees
I agree. My wife just got her shot yesterday. She ison the high risk list 2 or 3 ways. Standing around in a clinic full of sick people may not be too smart. Maybe they will have mine next week.
Doctors offices got it last. WTF?!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:05:23am |
re: #321 Mad Al-Jaffee
If you mean "wink wink nudge nudge" fun... for me it was a former Amish girl.
She about broke me in half.
It was great.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:06:27am |
re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you mean "wink wink nudge nudge" fun... for me it was a former Amish girl.
She about broke me in half.
It was great.
I watched the wrestler last night.. you are right..A dark movie
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:07:34am |
re: #147 iceweasel
Okay take it from me. We go every year for our seasonal shot. In LA it was a mess. Medical; personnel, then clinics only, then a blck market appeared. Now we finally have distribution to Doctors offices. Last.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:08:27am |
re: #327 HoosierHoops
I watched the wrestler last night.. you are right..A dark movie
Dark don't bother me. I thought it was over the top sad.
(Now, when I say "over the top", I am not saying that I thought that the Stallone arm wrestling movie was sad. I was using it in the spirit of the phrase only.)
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:09:00am |
Busy day today before the 5pm football break. Have a nice day.....
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:09:02am |
And now a movie about race relations
Spinning into butter (2007) A dean ( Sarah Jessica Parker) deals with a racial incident at a Vermont College.. Rated R (Drama)
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:09:38am |
re: #315 Semper Fi
Yeah, that's true -- specifically, a large Japanese population who have a fondness for the beisuborru.
Plus, there are wild packs of dotcom yuppies who roam nearby.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:09:52am |
re: #329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dark don't bother me. I thought it was over the top sad.
(Now, when I say "over the top", I am not saying that I thought that the Stallone arm wrestling movie was sad. I was using it in the spirit of the phrase only.)
I TIVO'd it..Going to watch it again today
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:10:17am |
re: #331 HoosierHoops
I thought "Enemy Mine" was a great movie about race relations.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:10:44am |
re: #333 HoosierHoops
I TIVO'd it..Going to watch it again today
The Stallone movie? Don't bother. It was terrible.
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:11:10am |
re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Stallone movie? Don't bother. It was terrible.
No silly..The wrestler
| 337 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:11:46am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:12:27am |
re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you mean "wink wink nudge nudge" fun... for me it was a former Amish girl.
She about broke me in half.
It was great.
All I can say is the last serious girlfriend was very religious, but certainly didn't follow everything the bible taught her (especially when it came to doing things before being married.) Praise Jesus for that!
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:12:34am |
re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Stallone movie? Don't bother. It was terrible.
Sorry, can't help laughing....seems like that's a fairly standard line about Stallone's films....[insert title here]....lol
| 340 |
Stanghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:13:24am |
Palin's recent twitter:
“Earth saw clmate chnge4 ions;will cont 2 c chnges.R duty2responsbly devlop resorces4humankind/not pollute&destroy;but cant alter naturl chng
about 4 hours ago from TwitterBerry ”
| 342 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:13:41am |
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:14:16am |
re: #338 Mad Al-Jaffee
All I can say is the last serious girlfriend was very religious, but certainly didn't follow everything the bible taught her (especially when it came to doing things before being married.) Praise Jesus for that!
Guilt is a terrible thing to waste
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:15:18am |
re: #339 Slap
Exceptin', "Rocky" of course. Which was, by any yardstick, a great movie.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:16:19am |
Morning Lizards!
I'm suprising hubby for his birthday tonite. So, I have a full day ahead and won't be here long.
How are you-all?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:16:41am |
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Semper Fi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:17:05am |
re: #332 Slap
Yeah, that's true -- specifically, a large Japanese population who have a fondness for the beisuborru.
Plus, there are wild packs of dotcom yuppies who roam nearby.
That alone is worth the price of admission. I've been spending a great deal of time in Arizona and Nevada lately. Every time I return to CA, and while still behind the wheel, I get excited.
See ya later...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:17:28am |
re: #347 ggt
Morning Lizards!
I'm suprising hubby for his birthday tonite. So, I have a full day ahead and won't be here long.
How are you-all?
in bed...
RAWR!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:18:12am |
I haven't watched this yet, but it's supposed to be good. Especially if you're a Star Wars fan.
[Link: www.slashfilm.com...]
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:21:45am |
re: #344 HoosierHoops
You coulda knocked me over with a feather when I saw this (totally legitimate and sincere) website:
[Link: christiannymphos.org...]
NOT a porn site. I actually found it to be in the "ray of light" category -- the embrace of sexual health and happiness is not something I typically associate with folks who identify as Christian. (Admittedly, that probably says something about my own preconceptions.....) But I found it hopeful....
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:23:16am |
re: #347 ggt
Good Morning.
How very nice of you. Spending time on a surprise the spouse is always worthwhile.
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:24:23am |
Sudanese negotiator accuses west of initiating "Holocaust" for not paying sufficiently large carbon-bribes to alliance of despots.
[Link: www.google.com...]
"It is asking Africa to sign a suicide pact, an incineration pact in order to maintain the economic dependence of a few countries," said Lumumba Stanislas Dia-ping of Sudan, chairing the Group of 77 and China bloc of 130 poor nations.
"It's a solution based on values that funnelled six million people in Europe into furnaces."
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cliffster Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:27:07am |
re: #352 Slap
I actually found it to be in the "ray of light" category -- the embrace of sexual health and happiness is not something I typically associate with folks who identify as Christian. (Admittedly, that probably says something about my own preconceptions...) But I found it hopeful...
You've been watching too much MSNBC. In the real world, people love Jesus AND they like to do it. In all kinds of crazy ways. Without any intention of procreation at all.
And good morning to all...
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:28:04am |
Someone sent me an email that just cracked me up. "Hundreds Gather to protest global warming....See attachment
A picture of hundreds of angry and scared looking snowmen in a field. Truly funny.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:28:37am |
re: #340 Stanley Sea
Palin's recent twitter:
“Earth saw clmate chnge4 ions;will cont 2 c chnges.R duty2responsbly devlop resorces4humankind/not pollute&destroy;but cant alter naturl chng
about 4 hours ago from TwitterBerry ”
I like how she drops vowels (and inserts some wrong ones!) so she can pack the tweet with extra stupid.
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sngnsgt Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:30:05am |
Well, looks like we're finally going to get rid of Harry Reed here in NV. The health care bill Dems just passed is political suicide here for him and the rest of his comrades.
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Jetpilot1101 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:30:38am |
re: #352 Slap
That is a pretty neat website. While I don't suffer from ABC sex as some christian men do, the website is a healthy dose of reality to those who do. I'll have to do some more research to make sure they aren't advocating some sort of submissive sexual control over the woman by the husband but from a cursory glance, the website looks pretty legit and a nice biblical application of sex in marriage.
| 360 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:30:50am |
re: #357 Jimmah
Climate change is done for charged particles??
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:32:08am |
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:32:18am |
re: #355 cliffster
You've been watching too much MSNBC. In the real world, people love Jesus AND they like to do it. In all kinds of crazy ways. Without any intention of procreation at all.
And good morning to all...
Good Morning...
Thank God for sex..Otherwise none of us would be here blogging...
/Mommys alright
Daddys alright
but they are both just a little weird
surrender
surrender
But don't give your self away
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:32:20am |
re: #355 cliffster
Thanks for the creative theory -- you'd have no way of knowing that the only 24-hour "news" channel I ever watch is ESPN. Sometime in 2002, I decided that there was too much ridiculous there for me. Have not allowed my TV remote to select CNN, FOX, CNBC or MSNBC in years.
Is MSNBC the only place you can go for news about sexually repressed Christians?/
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avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:33:13am |
re: #358 sngnsgt
Well, looks like we're finally going to get rid of Harry Reed here in NV. The health care bill Dems just passed is political suicide here for him and the rest of his comrades.
Hot Air is reacting with typical moderation:
" That is because this is a Coup de Etat. The Commies have taken over.
Reid, Pelosi and the rest of those who voted to take the Liberty of their fellow citizens away, need to go to the gallows, or at least to jail for life.
In the Consitution, there were only 3 Federal crimes, Piracy, Counterfieting and TREASON. I think a Jury of those affected by this could help those offenders to the rope for a dance.
Sic Semper Tyrannus!"
It's a health care bill, not the end of the Republic.
| 367 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:33:54am |
re: #364 HoosierHoops
Upding for a Cheap Trick!
| 368 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:35:06am |
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cliffster Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:35:39am |
re: #365 Slap
ESPN is the only reliable news outlet. Chris Berman is the new Walter Cronkite.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:36:10am |
re: #364 HoosierHoops
Good Morning...
Thank God for sex..Otherwise none of us would be here blogging...
/Mommys alright
Daddys alright
but they are both just a little weird
surrender
surrender
But don't give your self away
Momma's got a squeezebox she lays on her chest
And when daddy gets home, he never gets no rest
Playing all night, and the music's alright.
Momma's got a squeezebox, Daddy never sleeps at night.
| 372 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:39:41am |
re: #370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Saw Roger was interviewed once, they had decided to get as dirty as they thought they could. Were shocked that the censors did nothing about it.
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:40:40am |
Well, Porkapalooza was only partially successful. My normal ham pusher only had national commercial brands available, instead of the ones he normally imports from down south. Crap. Maybe I'll try the Yuppie-Mart, but I'll wind up paying double there.
I did score some awesome Polish bacon, though. After seeing all the comments on Detroit, above, I'll remark that I went over to Hamtramck, where a local grocery store has an enormous meat counter with at least a literal ton of meats authentically dried, cured and otherwise processed Polish style. Including this wonderful bacon, which they make themselves and is way the hell better than any other bacon I've had. Which is high praise.
All the labels are in Polish, with the occasional English translation underneath. The woman behind the counter waved another clerk in my direction when I started talking - in English. Enough smoky goodness to last a couple weeks, and a pound for a Christmas gift to someone at work.
I also hit one of the local Polish bakeries and put in an order for kolaczkis, bite-size pastries with a fruit filling and hyper-flaky pastry crust dusted with powdered sugar. The place was packed with way too many goodies, all made right there; picking up my order on Monday will be a sore trial, and it's doubtful I'll get out of there without loading up on way more than I should.
Despite it's many problems, Detroit still has an awful lot of good people in it with tremendous energy and optimism, and a lot of really excellent ethnic food that you just can't find anywhere else, even in the neighboring suburbs.
I guess I'm gonna have to go hustle hams on a street corner somewhere, though.
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karmic_inquisitor Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:41:05am |
re: #359 Jetpilot1101
20 years ago when my wife and I were engaged we went on a weekend retreat that was compulsory for getting married in the Catholic church (at least compulsory in San Diego).
The priest who led the weekend was a 20 year Navy chaplain approaching retirement and was wise to the ways of the world. Before the last session on Sunday night he placed a coffee can near the restrooms and said anyone could place a question in it that he/she may be too embarrassed to ask.
An hour later there was one question in it which he read out:
"Since sexual intercourse among the married is a sacrament, should we pray before or after?"
I almost caught an eye roll from him, but he sighed, then smiled and said:
"Well - at my age I'd pray before. Have a safe drive home."
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:41:16am |
re: #369 cliffster
ESPN is the only reliable news outlet. Chris Berman is the new Walter Cronkite.
They report on everyone else but themselves...A lot of Sexual harassment stuff has happened there
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:41:27am |
Only 5 more days 'til Santa!
In my part of the world it's looking a lot like christmas. Not too cold tho.
Do you think Chris Isaak is following the Roy Orbison tradition?
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cliffster Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:42:29am |
re: #375 HoosierHoops
They report on everyone else but themselves...A lot of Sexual harassment stuff has happened there
Yeah?
| 379 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:43:47am |
re: #374 karmic_inquisitor
20 years ago when my wife and I were engaged we went on a weekend retreat that was compulsory for getting married in the Catholic church (at least compulsory in San Diego).
The priest who led the weekend was a 20 year Navy chaplain approaching retirement and was wise to the ways of the world. Before the last session on Sunday night he placed a coffee can near the restrooms and said anyone could place a question in it that he/she may be too embarrassed to ask.
An hour later there was one question in it which he read out:
"Since sexual intercourse among the married is a sacrament, should we pray before or after?"
I almost caught an eye roll from him, but he sighed, then smiled and said:
"Well - at my age I'd pray before. Have a safe drive home."
Our priest said that we were old enough we did't need pre-cana. "Besides", he said, "pre-cana is on Friday Nights and I like to watch Friday might football."
| 380 |
Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:46:22am |
re: #377 cliffster
Yeah?
I've read a lot of stuff about the ESPN Campus over the years...A lot of ex-jocks who think they are studs..Too much testosterone in one building.
| 382 |
Jetpilot1101 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:46:49am |
re: #374 karmic_inquisitor
Now that was funny! Apparently some married folks wield sex as some sort of reward or else use it as blackmail to get their spouse to do things they want. I found that if you treat marriage as a big compromise, let the other person have an equal say and work through the issues as they come up, you don't need to do that. Been happily married for 6 years to the most wonderful woman in the world and I have never found myself wanting.
| 383 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:46:53am |
Lone Democratic holdout in Senate agrees to back healthcare bill
With a critical vote looming this weekend, Senate Democrats reached a long-sought deal with the lone Democratic holdout, Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson, who will back the party's healthcare bill after settling weeks of negotiating over abortion.
That would give Democrats the 60 votes they need to quash a series of Republican-led filibusters and pass a bill by Christmas.
Nelson, who was pushing for tougher restrictions on federal funding for abortion, reached the agreement with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office Friday night after round-the-clock talks with Reid and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), a leading supporter of abortion rights.
| 384 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:47:17am |
re: #378 Sharmuta
Now all you need is some Pierogi.
I could have snagged some of those, too, at the grocery store; they have a sort of deli where they sell cooked foods (although I'm sure it's not called a 'deli' in Polish) but sometimes, it's best to just walk away.
| 385 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:48:02am |
re: #382 Jetpilot1101
I can agree in full after 25+ years.
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:48:28am |
re: #382 Jetpilot1101
Now that was funny! Apparently some married folks wield sex as some sort of reward or else use it as blackmail to get their spouse to do things they want. I found that if you treat marriage as a big compromise, let the other person have an equal say and work through the issues as they come up, you don't need to do that. Been happily married for 6 years to the most wonderful woman in the world and I have never found myself wanting.
I love a quote by Diane Sawyer - "A good marriage is a contest of generosity"
| 387 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:49:09am |
re: #380 HoosierHoops
I've read a lot of stuff about the ESPN Campus over the years...A lot of ex-jocks who think they are studs..Too much testosterone in one building.
Well one would assume it would be harassment HQ, but I've never really heard anything. Front page, anyways. But news about ESPN would be sports news, and you're right ESPN is not going to report on that.
| 388 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:49:35am |
Modern American Art
| 389 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:50:42am |
re: #384 SixDegrees
I like going to the various local churches that make Pierogi, although we have a couple delis that make them well. Something about little grandmas at church making them- I think they taste better.
| 390 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:51:06am |
re: #388 albusteve
Once again I have to reply with one of my favorite pieces of American art:
[Link: www.fredweaver.com...]
| 391 |
SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:51:11am |
United and Delta have cancelled damn near everything they have going into Reagan National.
| 392 |
abolitionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:52:53am |
This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph.
President Barack Obama meets with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao during a bilateral at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen, Denmark, Dec. 18, 2009. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
Whose White House? Whose official White House photo? Is this a policy change?
Copyright Pertaining to US Government Work
[Link: www.usa.gov...]
| 393 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:52:58am |
| 394 |
cliffster Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:53:14am |
re: #383 Sharmuta
So for Christmas the Representatives get a bill that is completely different from the one they put together. Fedex lost the one sent to the Senate, so the Senate made a new one.
| 395 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:54:30am |
re: #390 Mad Al-Jaffee
Once again I have to reply with one of my favorite pieces of American art:
[Link: www.fredweaver.com...]
looks like a Plymouth...kinda hard to tell tho
| 397 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:56:04am |
re: #389 Sharmuta
I like going to the various local churches that make Pierogi, although we have a couple delis that make them well. Something about little grandmas at church making them- I think they taste better.
Totally agree. We also have a large Mexican community here, so finding tamales is never a problem. But we used to have a guy at work whose wife was some kind of local tamale legend, and around Christmastime he would arrive with armloads of grocery bags stuffed with 'em. I have never, ever had any tamale that even came close to hers; she put the ones available in local restaurants to shame.
| 399 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:56:46am |
| 400 |
SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:56:58am |
I think they just made it official - Reagan National Airport just closed until 1 PM Eastern. MUCH longer than that, I think!
| 401 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:57:17am |
re: #397 SixDegrees
Totally agree. We also have a large Mexican community here, so finding tamales is never a problem. But we used to have a guy at work whose wife was some kind of local tamale legend, and around Christmastime he would arrive with armloads of grocery bags stuffed with 'em. I have never, ever had any tamale that even came close to hers; she put the ones available in local restaurants to shame.
Same here, large Hispanic population. Red sauce to DIE for!
| 402 |
avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:58:32am |
WTF has happened to some on the right ? Another Hot Air post:
"Only 1 Senator needs to die
30-06 at 500yds ?
JoeAvg on December 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM"
| 403 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:59:00am |
re: #320 HoosierHoops
King of California 3 stars
an unstable musician tries to convince his daughter that spanish gold is buried in the suburbs (Drama)
Awesome freaking movie! Best of the saturday morning movies I've seen in months..
Sounds good. I just watched "The Band's Visit". Occasionally watch an Israeli flick, hoping to improve my Hebrew.
Not so much, this one was mostly in English and Arabic, and after the exposition, was too...uh...European for me. European in this case meaning that nothing much happens, it's all rather sad, with lots of complicated understated emotion, and then you're supposed to end on a great note of joy at the baffling nature of life.
| 404 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:59:13am |
re: #402 avanti
WTF has happened to some on the right ? Another Hot Air post:
"Only 1 Senator needs to die
30-06 at 500yds ?JoeAvg on December 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM"
Whackos have taken over the world!
| 405 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 8:59:27am |
re: #400 SteveC
I think they just made it official - Reagan National Airport just closed until 1 PM Eastern. MUCH longer than that, I think!
well that's not good
| 406 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:00:02am |
re: #396 SteveC
OMG, it is going to be pure hell down there. I was in DC once when they got a half-inch of snow, and it brought the entire region to it's knees for a couple of days. Snow is rare enough that they don't have the equipment to deal with it - no plows, no salt, no sand - and nobody down there knows how to drive in the stuff, making things ten times worse than they already are.
Starts with cluster, ends with uck.
| 407 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:00:08am |
re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you mean "wink wink nudge nudge" fun... for me it was a former Amish girl.
She about broke me in half.
It was great.
Look, if you don't have television, radio, or computer games, you gotta do something for fun.
| 408 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:01:10am |
re: #397 SixDegrees
I hear ya. I worked for a Lebanese family whose mother made the best tabbouleh. Now their restaurant is closed (they sold the land to a developer) and you can't get good tabbouleh anywhere.
| 409 |
avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:01:36am |
re: #404 ggt
Whackos have taken over the world!
It only takes one wacho acting to put us in deep shit, we just have to calm down and have a reality check .
| 410 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:01:49am |
re: #402 avanti
Does that site remove anything? At all? That looks like a felony already.
| 411 |
wrenchwench Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:02:11am |
re: #389 Sharmuta
I like going to the various local churches that make Pierogi, although we have a couple delis that make them well. Something about little grandmas at church making them- I think they taste better.
Never underestimate the big grandmas. Just sayin'...
| 412 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:02:33am |
re: #98 iceweasel
Do they put hot sauce on Scotch Eggs in Scotland like I've seen it done in the US?
| 413 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:02:39am |
| 414 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:03:18am |
re: #408 Sharmuta
I hear ya. I worked for a Lebanese family whose mother made the best tabbouleh. Now their restaurant is closed (they sold the land to a developer) and you can't get good tabbouleh anywhere.
Instant Tabbouleh is a sign that G-d loves us and wants us not to work too hard all the time.
| 415 |
avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:03:54am |
re: #410 Rightwingconspirator
Does that site remove anything? At all? That looks like a felony already.
You would think the threat of political assassination might get a moderators attention.
| 416 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:04:25am |
re: #409 avanti
It only takes one wacho acting to put us in deep shit, we just have to calm down and have a reality check .
one small rock from space can kill us all...stuff like this is nothing new...keep surfing, you'll find even crazier people than that
| 417 |
avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:04:48am |
| 418 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:05:47am |
re: #408 Sharmuta
I hear ya. I worked for a Lebanese family whose mother made the best tabbouleh. Now their restaurant is closed (they sold the land to a developer) and you can't get good tabbouleh anywhere.
Well, when it comes to Middle Eastern fare, this area's hard to beat. Dearborn is right down the street.
One upside to Detroit's devastation: it isn't even a little profitable for the big national chain restaurants to do business here, and they've abandoned the city like so many others. That's left the market wide open for mom and pop restaurants making food that appeals to them and those in the neighborhood. This morning, I passed a Bosnian restaurant; I have no idea what that's like, but I'll probably have to go find out. Even though so many other things suck about Detroit, we've probably got as good a variety of really excellent, authentic ethnic food as places like Chicago or New York.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:06:26am |
re: #414 ggt
The family also made an incredible creamy garlic sauce, which you can get no where else because it was the family recipe. I miss that garlic sauce! :(
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:07:04am |
re: #419 Sharmuta
The family also made an incredible creamy garlic sauce, which you can get no where else because it was the family recipe. I miss that garlic sauce! :(
You are making me hungry Sharm
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:07:13am |
re: #355 cliffster
You've been watching too much MSNBC. In the real world, people love Jesus AND they like to do it. In all kinds of crazy ways. Without any intention of procreation at all.
And good morning to all...
There's a novel, called Heathens, which has as one major character, an evangelical Christian housewife, who teaches classes for young women at a local bible college. About halfway into the book, one chapter is devoted to her private diary, which, in between witnessing to faith and complaining about the state credentialling process, discreetly documents her sex life.
"Three time last night. Praise the Lord!"
"Only once, for for a very long time. I am truly blessed."
"It is that time of the month, so Ted and I have had to knock it off for a while. That is why they call it the Curse."
"Back in business last night, until dawn was coming through the drapes. Praised be his name."
She's a wonderful character, in an extremely weird book.
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badger1970 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:08:05am |
re: #410 Rightwingconspirator
Boards aren't going to change the world, however can get one in big trouble.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:08:09am |
re: #359 Jetpilot1101
That is a pretty neat website. While I don't suffer from ABC sex as some christian men do, the website is a healthy dose of reality to those who do. I'll have to do some more research to make sure they aren't advocating some sort of submissive sexual control over the woman by the husband but from a cursory glance, the website looks pretty legit and a nice biblical application of sex in marriage.
Wasn't there some pastor recently who challenged the couples in his church to have sex daily for some period of time?
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SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:09:06am |
re: #423 SanFranciscoZionist
Wasn't there some pastor recently who challenged the couples in his church to have sex daily for some period of time?
That rings a bell. "Do It For Jesus" took on a whole new meaning.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:09:18am |
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avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:10:29am |
re: #416 albusteve
one small rock from space can kill us all...stuff like this is nothing new...keep surfing, you'll find even crazier people than that
And that's my point, there are many out there, and excuse me for being concerned. I have only been a active political blogger for a year, and did know this sort of crazy was common.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:10:52am |
re: #379 ggt
Our priest said that we were old enough we did't need pre-cana. "Besides", he said, "pre-cana is on Friday Nights and I like to watch Friday might football."
You got lucky. Some family friends had to do the whole nine yards, and they were in their late fifties. Both married before. Sitting there in class with the twenty- and thirty-somethings.
But Father poured wine lavishly, and they got through it.
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badger1970 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:11:16am |
re: #426 Rightwingconspirator
Yeah, especially for such a hot topic like that.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:11:16am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:13:04am |
re: #397 SixDegrees
Totally agree. We also have a large Mexican community here, so finding tamales is never a problem. But we used to have a guy at work whose wife was some kind of local tamale legend, and around Christmastime he would arrive with armloads of grocery bags stuffed with 'em. I have never, ever had any tamale that even came close to hers; she put the ones available in local restaurants to shame.
Recent moment at school, a kid says thoughtfully: "Well, I don't have practice, so I guess I could go home. But if I go home, my mom will just make me wrap tamales."
Christmas is in the air...
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avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:14:15am |
re: #431 albusteve
I'm more disappointed than amazed...very irresponsible to allow a forum for that shit
Note this day, we are in agreement. :)
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Lidane Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:14:28am |
re: #286 HoosierHoops
Now I got Zappa's song ' Catholic girls' in my head...
Damn it. Now you put this song in my head:
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:14:59am |
Stuck at home today due to a sprained ankle. Lots of lovely snow falling here in Philly, which I'd love to go out and take a walk in since it's fairly rare.
However, I wouldn't go out driving in this. I have snow driving experience, but I have my doubts about many of the other drivers that might be out there. Plus I expect that the plowing/salting/whatever will not be able to keep up with this.
Just have to worry about how to keep limb elevated while having sufficient room to handle demands of laptop and two cats...
| 437 |
SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:15:54am |
Why is there so much snow and a blizzard warning in DC with all that hot air pouring out of Congress?
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Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:16:39am |
re: #436 Sharmuta
Sorry Hoops. Hope your Colts keep winning.
The Vikings and Colts in the Superbowl!
| 439 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:17:10am |
re: #431 albusteve
I think I'll get to disappointed quick. The jaw drop takes a minute to get through.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:17:37am |
re: #437 SteveC
Because it's not nice to fool with Mother Nature!
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:18:11am |
Cities getting snow that lack snow removal equipment...
Just some of the little impacts of climate change, perhaps? The east coast might want to think about some plows and emergency snow routes, because banking that these sorts of storms won't happen much is a disservice to the people.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:18:50am |
Cato the Elder has left the building.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:19:17am |
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SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:19:55am |
re: #443 Walter L. Newton
Cato the Elder has left the building.
That explains it - HELL IS FREEZING OVER!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:20:19am |
re: #442 Sharmuta
Very possible.
It's a reminder that we all need to be prepared to spend a few days without outside sources for food, water or heat.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:20:37am |
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:22:30am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:22:30am |
re: #442 Sharmuta
Cities getting snow that lack snow removal equipment...
Just some of the little impacts of climate change, perhaps? The east coast might want to think about some plows and emergency snow routes, because banking that these sorts of storms won't happen much is a disservice to the people.
More like the heavy storms are rare enough that the cities make the decision to not bury budget funds and maintenance for equipment that is not used often enough. Logical decision made against the risk of the disruption due to a fairly rare event.
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SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:22:40am |
Someone on Twitter says inch of snow per hour, at least. Weather channel showing snow in Egg Harbor, NJ
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:22:55am |
re: #442 Sharmuta
Cities getting snow that lack snow removal equipment...
Just some of the little impacts of climate change, perhaps? The east coast might want to think about some plows and emergency snow routes, because banking that these sorts of storms won't happen much is a disservice to the people.
Bullshit girl. I lived on the East Coast for 24 years. I lived in New York, I lived in Northern New Jersey for 11 years. Every winter, I didn't see black top for 4 months because of the snow pack on the road in front of my house.
In the 50's I've seen TWO FEET of snow in Brooklyn. I've seen a whole street of parked cars disappear every time they plowed the street.
The East Coast knows about snow, the East Coast has been removing this shit for years.
The only disservice is that people have become sensationist weenies and every storm is some sort of Storm of the Century.
We're you born yesterday?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:24:00am |
re: #448 albusteve
he'll be coming right past me in ABQ
He's going south, Buena Vista, Alamosa, Espanonlia, Santa Fe. Staying in Santa Fe tonight. You can figure the route.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:24:52am |
re: #446 Rightwingconspirator
You'll have to excuse me. I grew up where we get snow like this and don't blink. We laugh at 4 inches of snow when it shuts down other cities. Snow storms do make planning ahead with necessities a habit in winter, though.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:26:39am |
re: #451 Walter L. Newton
We're you born yesterday?
Yes, Walter- I was.
Did you really think I meant the north east, or are you just jumping on me for fun?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:26:42am |
re: #399 albusteve
oh my!...4" of killer snow!...WOOK OUUUT!
Dude. This is a HUGE/BAD storm by East Coast standards...
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:27:13am |
re: #452 Walter L. Newton
He's going south, Buena Vista, Alamosa, Espanonlia, Santa Fe. Staying in Santa Fe tonight. You can figure the route.
I'd forgotten Santa Fe when I posted....he will pick up I40 here or go downstate and take I10 across...I actually would have liked to meet him for lunch or a quick drink...then he could smack in person!....what an honor!...I like Cato the Grumper
| 457 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:27:57am |
re: #438 HoosierHoops
The Vikings and Colts in the Superbowl!
There's something the networks are just PRAYING for....
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:28:04am |
re: #453 Sharmuta
You'll have to excuse me. I grew up where we get snow like this and don't blink. We laugh at 4 inches of snow when it shuts down other cities. Snow storms do make planning ahead with necessities a habit in winter, though.
I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the current storm and current weather up there.
Ok, I take it back, not the comment, but my confusion that you meant the East Coast.
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SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:28:37am |
Daddy, that lady is nekked and cold!
Bicyclists planning a Saturday protest are calling it their "Freedom Ride" - free of clothing, that is. And they may be pedaling topless in a fierce snowstorm, if the forecast holds.
| 460 |
John Neverbend Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:28:40am |
I've been following a rather peculiar story that is winding down in England.
Then, still on the same story, the best misprint in the Telegraph for 2010:
Symphonic dysfunction (Read down the article until you find the paragraph that describes Ms. Giles' symptoms for which she was being treated). I can only assume that her ailment was in 4 movements with a slow second movement, followed by a scherzo and an allegro con fuoco.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:28:50am |
re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dude. This is a HUGE/BAD storm by East Coast standards...
whatever...hardly a shocking, monumental event tho
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:29:00am |
re: #456 albusteve
I'd forgotten Santa Fe when I posted...he will pick up I40 here or go downstate and take I10 across...I actually would have liked to meet him for lunch or a quick drink...then he could smack in person!...what an honor!...I like Cato the Grumper
No. He's taking 285 south, to Alamosa, then directly south to Santa fe, coming in on 84.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:29:10am |
re: #449 oaktree
That's my point, though. What if these events become more frequent? At what point do these cites look at investing in annual snow removal?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:30:11am |
re: #452 Walter L. Newton
He's going south, Buena Vista, Alamosa, Espanonlia, Santa Fe. Staying in Santa Fe tonight. You can figure the route.
He's been everywhere, man
He's been everywhere, man
Across the deserts bare, man
He's breathed the mountain air, man
Of travel he'sa had his share, man
He's been everywhere....
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avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:30:28am |
re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dude. This is a HUGE/BAD storm by East Coast standards...
1 1/2 foot on my porch, whiteout snow falling a inch/hour in Annapolis.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:31:05am |
re: #462 Walter L. Newton
No. He's taking 285 south, to Alamosa, then directly south to Santa fe, coming in on 84.
yes, but from SF he only has a few choices to go west, all of which brings hin through ABQ...he will really dig 285
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:31:14am |
re: #465 avanti
1 1/2 foot on my porch, whiteout snow falling a inch/hour in Annapolis.
2 feet on my deck.
| 468 |
subsailor68 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:31:17am |
Morning all! As the Senate moves forward on the hugely expensive proposed health care reform bill, the Chinese are issuing what may be either a threat or a warning. (Given the amount of U.S. debt China holds, I lean toward warning.):
In a discussion on the global role of the dollar, Zhu told an academic audience that it was inevitable that the dollar would continue to fall in value because Washington continued to issue more Treasuries to finance its deficit spending.
He then addressed where demand for that debt would come from.
"The United States cannot force foreign governments to increase their holdings of Treasuries," Zhu said, according to an audio recording of his remarks. "Double the holdings? It is definitely impossible."
Bottom line. Foreign governments are clearly not pleased with the massive increase in deficit spending, coupled with the shrinking availability of dollars on the world market as Americans focus on saving versus spending.
This is extremely troubling. We all knew that, sooner or later, people would begin to balk at buying our debt. It may be starting.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:31:33am |
re: #465 avanti
1 1/2 foot on my porch, whiteout snow falling a inch/hour in Annapolis.
Now that is a snow storm. Good luck.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:32:26am |
If I was a plow driver today I would be singing "There's no business like snow business, like snow business I know."
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webevintage Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:32:29am |
Waaaaa, I want snow, but you have to sacrifice a couple of virgin armadillos during a blue moon for that to happen here in central Arkansas and y'all know how hard it is to tell if an armadillo is pure or not......
BTW, For those who care to read:
[Link: democrats.senate.gov...]
This is the managers amendment which is "a single piece of legislation that contains hundreds of amendments within it. This way, there is one big vote oh changing the bill rather than dozens, or even hundreds, of smaller votes". So says Ezra Klien.
I assume that if you have read the previous bill posted online and then read through this you will know what is being voted on.
Me, I'll wait for the Cliff Notes.
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:32:45am |
How's this for screwed up. This is a week old but I hadn't seen it.
Illegally Park-ed
An Irvine cop **** on a motorist but escapes criminal liabilityNo one disputes that an on-duty Irvine police officer got an erection and ejaculated on a motorist during an early-morning traffic stop in Laguna Beach. The female driver reported it, DNA testing confirmed it and officer David Alex Park finally admitted it.
That would be the worst traffic stop ever.
[Link: www.ocweekly.com...]
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:33:19am |
re: #470 Mad Al-Jaffee
If I was a plow driver today I would be singing "There's no business like snow business, like snow business I know."
I would be singing the Mr. Plow jingle from The Simpsons.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:34:12am |
re: #466 albusteve
yes, but from SF he only has a few choices to go west, all of which brings hin through ABQ...he will really dig 285
That was my thought, that's why I sent him that way instead of back to 25. 285 really nice ride, through the SOuth Park area, the San Luis Valley (Sand Dunes) and some really goo Mexican eateries around the Alamosa to Santa Fe part of the drive.
Down 25 from Denver to Santa Fe... boring most of the way.
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avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:34:22am |
re: #469 Sharmuta
Now that is a snow storm. Good luck.
I'm from South Bend Indiana, and this is like a big lake effect Indiana storm, except a lot fewer plows. Last time we had one like this, I was home bound for 3 days.
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SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:34:40am |
3 inches an hour in downtown DC. Reagan National is down until 5 AM tomorrow.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:35:08am |
re: #463 Sharmuta
I would presume that if there were indications that storms of that magnitude would be more frequent they would increase their budgets for snow removal equipment and modify their plans along those lines.
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:35:38am |
re: #474 Walter L. Newton
That was my thought, that's why I sent him that way instead of back to 25. 285 really nice ride, through the SOuth Park area, the San Luis Valley (Sand Dunes) and some really goo Mexican eateries around the Alamosa to Santa Fe part of the drive.
Down 25 from Denver to Santa Fe... boring most of the way.
yup, good advice
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:36:19am |
re: #460 John Neverbend
Upding for the audacious conflation of the intestinal and the musical.
No offense, but that's the last time I intend to dwell on such comparisons.
Time to squeeze them out.
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badger1970 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:36:41am |
re: #438 HoosierHoops
May the Favre curse be upon you. //
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:37:53am |
re: #477 oaktree
How much is there for snow removal in the state budgets? It's not just on the cities. The state needs to clear the rest of the roads.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:38:14am |
re: #472 RogueOne
How's this for screwed up. This is a week old but I hadn't seen it.
That would be the worst traffic stop ever.[Link: www.ocweekly.com...]
That's absolutely disgusting. I hope the department throws the book at him.
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SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:38:31am |
re: #475 avanti
I'm from South Bend Indiana.
Someone asked Lou Holtz why Notre Dame was located in South Bend. Lou replied "The way I understand it, a group of monks left New York to open a Catholic School in California. One morning they woke up to find they had been trapped by a blizzard. The leader of the group said `We'll just stay here until it stops snowing...'"
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John Neverbend Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:38:48am |
re: #479 Slap
Upding for the audacious conflation of the intestinal and the musical.
I'm still trying to figure out how one can empirically verify the "leg-buckling" aspect, unless you happened to be standing at the time.
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:39:45am |
re: #480 badger1970
May the Favre curse be upon you. //
The Vikings are not going to the Super Bowl. It's like an NFL by-law or something. However, should they happen to win the Super Bowl, it would be the second sign of Armageddon, so be warned.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:40:04am |
The last big storm I was on the East Coast for was three days after I'd taken a job in DC in 1988. Was staying with friends of my parents in Bowie, MD (between Annapolis and DC) while I was apartment hunting. Since I had Veteran's Day off I was in Alexandria looking at apartments.
That day the DC area got about 18 inches of snow...
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:42:42am |
re: #486 oaktree
The last big storm I was on the East Coast for was three days after I'd taken a job in DC in 1988. Was staying with friends of my parents in Bowie, MD (between Annapolis and DC) while I was apartment hunting. Since I had Veteran's Day off I was in Alexandria looking at apartments.
That day the DC area got about 18 inches of snow...
Last big snow here, 42 inches, 4 weeks ago, a lot of it still on the ground.
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SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:43:58am |
re: #486 oaktree
That day the DC area got about 18 inches of snow...
It wasn't that much, but I have spent the night at Reagan National. Got panicked because before the snow I had to stay a day longer than planned, then got trapped at the airport. My medicines were running low.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:46:18am |
re: #486 oaktree
The last big storm I was on the East Coast for was three days after I'd taken a job in DC in 1988.
It has been that long since I've seen that much snow here.
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avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:46:29am |
re: #489 SteveC
It wasn't that much, but I have spent the night at Reagan National. Got panicked because before the snow I had to stay a day longer than planned, then got trapped at the airport. My medicines were running low.
I was trapped at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas while DC was shut down, not the worst town to be trapped in.
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:46:39am |
re: #486 oaktree
Oh, MAN do I remember that one. Was living in Alexandria, had tickets to see Jethro Tull with Fairport Convention (figures, it was the tour where Fairport's rhythm section was also Tull's) at the Baltimore Civic Center. By 2PM, the frigging bridges had all been closed and I was stuck. The show went on, since the storm didn't hit Charm City quite as hard.
I still have the damned ticket.
| 494 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:46:49am |
re: #487 Walter L. Newton
Not shocking at 8,000 feet in Colorado, is it?
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albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:46:54am |
if I drive out to west ABQ I can see the snow above Santa Fe....brrrrrr...bwahaha!...look, snow!
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Stanghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:47:50am |
re: #482 SanFranciscoZionist
That's absolutely disgusting. I hope the department throws the book at him.
It appears the cop got off (yeah yeah) Since the person pulled over was an exotic dancer, it must have been her fault.
| 497 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:48:32am |
re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not shocking at 8,000 feet in Colorado, is it?
Very shocking, terrible, all this global climate change/warming/cooling/wecan'tmakeupourmind has caused Colorado to have WEATHER, all year round. OMG.
| 498 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:49:07am |
re: #493 Slap
My personal sentimental favorite album of all time is still, Jethro Tull's "A Passion Play".
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:49:22am |
re: #495 albusteve
if I drive out to west ABQ I can see the snow above Santa Fe...brrr...bwahaha!...look, snow!
I'm really frightened, in 3-4 months, we may have RAIN and THUNDERSTORMS in Colorado.
| 500 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:49:40am |
re: #496 Stanley Sea
It appears the cop got off (yeah yeah) Since the person pulled over was an exotic dancer, it must have been her fault.
Yes. He had no choice but to accept a handjob from this 110-pound woman.
Let's just hope this poor bastard never pulls over a gay Hell's Angel.
| 501 |
SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:49:41am |
re: #492 avanti
I was trapped at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas while DC was shut down, not the worst town to be trapped in.
That sounds very reasonable! DC wasn't that bad, it is just that I was worried. I always carry extra meds (in my carry on!) but I had already used most of them.
| 502 |
badger1970 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:50:15am |
re: #496 Stanley Sea
So, if she wore a burqua and if the officer still got excited, then it would have been his fault?
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RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:50:17am |
re: #482 SanFranciscoZionist
He was fired and charged which is a big +1 to the city. It also cost them $400k to settle her lawsuit against them. This asshat is now, luckily, working in construction.
| 504 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:50:48am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Colorado needs the precipitation, I thought?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:50:53am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
I got hit on the ear by a flake of snow in September on Pike's Peak once. Felt like I had been shot by a bb gun.
| 506 |
SteveC Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:51:08am |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
I'm really frightened, in 3-4 months, we may have RAIN and THUNDERSTORMS in Colorado.
Steady now, don't wet your britches... make sure you take them off the clothesline before the rain starts! :)
| 507 |
Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:51:50am |
re: #492 avanti
I was trapped at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas while DC was shut down, not the worst town to be trapped in.
I got stuck flying through Philly once in a snow storm...8 Hours in the bar with my laptop...Food, Beer and the internet..What more does a man need?
/Don't answer that
| 508 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:51:59am |
six feet of snow, comin through my radio
it's raining stilletos
from here clear down to Mexico
Little Feat
| 509 |
Stanghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:52:33am |
re: #502 badger1970
So, if she wore a burqua and if the officer still got excited, then it would have been his fault?
I'm just responding to the jury's verdict. Seems to me the cop was at fault the whole time.
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:52:35am |
re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It's possible we're the only two people in this hemisphere that actually enjoy that album. In terms of my own personal enjoyment, Passion Play is at the top of my Tull list. (I can't believe he gave up on using soprano sax -- that's one of my favorite aspects of the album). In terms of overall balance, though, Minstrel in the Gallery is hard to top.
| 511 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:53:51am |
re: #510 Slap
It's possible we're the only two people in this hemisphere that actually enjoy that album. In terms of my own personal enjoyment, Passion Play is at the top of my Tull list. (I can't believe he gave up on using soprano sax -- that's one of my favorite aspects of the album). In terms of overall balance, though, Minstrel in the Gallery is hard to top.
sitting on a park bench
eyeing little girls with bad intent
| 512 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:54:27am |
re: #486 oaktree
The last big storm I was on the East Coast for was three days after I'd taken a job in DC in 1988. Was staying with friends of my parents in Bowie, MD (between Annapolis and DC) while I was apartment hunting. Since I had Veteran's Day off I was in Alexandria looking at apartments.
That day the DC area got about 18 inches of snow...
Bowie High was my school's (Laurel) rival when I was in high school. There's a nice restaurant/bar in old Bowie that has live music. I've had some nice gigs there.
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:55:13am |
re: #511 albusteve
Can you imagine how many times Ian Anderson has had to sing those lyrics? I don't believe they ever left it off their setlists in all their tours since it came out....
| 514 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:55:42am |
Oh goody goody. Since Cato the Elder was here for two nights, we didn't do Hanukkah gifts, too busy (we did have latkes last night for a late night snack), and now he left a few hours ago and my girlfriend just caught up. I got two dollar store toys at the same time. I'm in heaven!
| 515 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:56:31am |
I went outside a few minutes ago to let the dogs out (yes, whatever pop/dance singer did that song, I let the dogs out) and my hands are still cold.
| 516 |
RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:56:49am |
re: #509 Stanley Sea
I'm just responding to the jury's verdict. Seems to me the cop was at fault the whole time.
Yeah, like the cops in the other story and their equipment failure, this guy's GPS just happened to get disconnected, and he had just happened to run checks on all the strippers in that bar, he just happened to have pulled her over previously, and he just happened to be out of his jurisdiction. That's a little too much coincidence.
| 517 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:57:18am |
re: #509 Stanley Sea
I'm just responding to the jury's verdict. Seems to me the cop was at fault the whole time.
Hey, Mr. Policeman, if she could get your zipper down without you stopping her, seems to me she could have taken your gun. Maybe you're in the wrong line of work.
/Or maybe you're scum who figures exotic dancers should put out for you to avoid tickets.
| 518 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:57:37am |
re: #508 albusteve
Quote the Feat, get an upding from Slap. That's just the way it works.
| 519 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:58:17am |
re: #515 Mad Al-Jaffee
I went outside a few minutes ago to let the dogs out (yes, whatever pop/dance singer did that song, I let the dogs out) and my hands are still cold.
Do your dogs like the cold? Some seem to enjoy it.
| 520 |
Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:58:33am |
re: #515 Mad Al-Jaffee
I went outside a few minutes ago to let the dogs out (yes, whatever pop/dance singer did that song, I let the dogs out) and my hands are still cold.
Winston didn't like the snow this morning
| 521 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 9:59:04am |
| 522 |
Stanghazi Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:00:08am |
Family coming tomorrow. Must assist with decorations. My wish is for everyone to have a relaxing day!
| 523 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:00:29am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:01:37am |
re: #493 Slap
That day is stuck in my mind from how I spent my afternoon and evening. Five hours to get over the bridge on I-95 from Alexandria to the Maryland side. Crawling with the still moving traffic for a few more hours while a lot of people abandoned vehicles and walked off the interstate. Eventually reached a gap in the median barrier and switched over the southbound lanes in order to get off I-95 using an on-ramp. (By this time the police had I-95 closed to traffic.)
Got from there onto I-295, which by that time was plowed and salted. Thought the worst was over at that point, and then once I switched over to US-30 I hit the bumper-to-bumper jam there. By the time I got to the exit I needed the pickup-truck ran out of gas. And the off-ramp was blocked by a tractor trailer stuck half-away up the ramp.
So I pulled over and parked the truck on the shoulder and started walking the couple of miles to where I was staying. It was about 10pm by then. Local road was plowed, and I got a lift partway home by driver going by. An interesting introduction to the area.
Spent half the next day recovering the pickup. And I-95 was closed for at least two more days as they got all the semis cleared off the highway.
| 525 |
avanti Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:01:56am |
re: #507 HoosierHoops
I got stuck flying through Philly once in a snow storm...8 Hours in the bar with my laptop...Food, Beer and the internet..What more does a man need?
/Don't answer that
In Vegas, the other thing is available, but although the quality is exceptional, so is the cost. Funny story about that. My young and newly married friend and I met what turned out to be a working girl playing Blackjack and neither one of us were interested. The gal thought my friend was so cute, she offered him a freebie, and bless his heart he turned her down and insulted her professional pride.
| 526 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:03:42am |
re: #519 SanFranciscoZionist
Do your dogs like the cold? Some seem to enjoy it.
My dog loves any weather and she loves snow. My brother's dog (who is here for the weekend) liked it when she was younger. Now when I let her out she walk around for a while in it but she'll want to come back inside soon. My dog is about the same age, but she still thinks she's a pup.
| 527 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:04:25am |
re: #510 Slap
...we sleep by the ever bright hole in the door
eat in the corner, talk to the floor
cheating the spiders who come to say "please"
politely they bend at the knees..
Well, I'll go to the foot of the stairs....
| 528 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:05:03am |
re: #521 albusteve
I saw them from the front row on the second night of the Lisner stand where they recorded portions of Waiting for Columbus. Thankfully, the expanded reissue actually has a few tracks from the night I was there, and they were every bit as fierce and glorious as I'd remembered. RIP, Lowell.
| 529 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:06:12am |
I just got a great email from my nephew in Germany. I gave him the dvds of Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2 for his birthday this summer. He wrote, "I watcht Gohst Busters it was soooooooooooooooooooooooo coooooooooooooooollllllllllllll"
He's a great kid.
| 530 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:07:35am |
re: #529 Mad Al-Jaffee
"Where do those stairs go?"
"They go up."
| 531 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:07:38am |
re: #528 Slap
I saw them from the front row on the second night of the Lisner stand where they recorded portions of Waiting for Columbus. Thankfully, the expanded reissue actually has a few tracks from the night I was there, and they were every bit as fierce and glorious as I'd remembered. RIP, Lowell.
they survived nicely without him...Paul Barrere does all the slide licks, but he was surly missed...they are just as good now as they were then imo
| 532 |
Digital Display Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:07:59am |
re: #523 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, poor Winston.
He went running out the back door at full speed then slowed down..and stopped...sniffed the snow and came running back...Begging to come back in..
Sorry Winston..This is Indiana..Go do your business then you can come back inside...LOL I think my Beverly Hills Chihuahua has issues here in Indiana just like daddy...
| 533 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:09:14am |
re: #524 oaktree
Sympathy upding.
I'm not leaving the house today. My brother's in Delaware (where it's just raining) and he's wondering if he should wait til Monday to come home.
| 534 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:10:10am |
re: #531 albusteve
I MOSTLY agree, but can't get used to the (highly skilled) female vocalist. I kinda lost the thread with them after Craig Fuller left. (I love Shake Me Up!) But the Gradney/Clayton/Hayward rhythm section is every bit the equal to the Meters or Nevilles, and worth a listen ANY time.
| 535 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:10:45am |
re: #532 HoosierHoops
My dog (Rocky) is 8 inches tall. 5 lbs. I shoveled out a hole for him. He ran out; stopped; looked up at the top of the "impossibly tall" white wall in front of him; turned around; ran back into the house.
| 536 |
subsailor68 Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:12:09am |
Here's an interesting story on Europe's version of cap and trade. Oops, who'd have seen this coming?
Fraud in Europe's Cap and Trade System a 'Red Flag,' Critics Say
Won't happen here though, right Senators?
| 537 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:13:05am |
re: #530 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Where do those stairs go?"
"They go up."
The kid is 9 years old and loves the Marx Brothers and Mel Brooks. He spontaneously started "Jews in Space" at my house this summer. Dangerous.
| 538 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:14:27am |
re: #533 Mad Al-Jaffee
Kicker is that I want to get out. Trader Joe's not too far off and I need to pick up a few things. Plus I like walking in the snow. The bum heel is the killer since I essentially can't gimp along at any speed, and definitely won't risk the falling hazard it would cause in the snow/ice.
At least I can look at it coming down and converting Philadelphia into a sort of snow globe. :)
| 539 |
Obdicut Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:15:56am |
There are lots of people I expect anti-semitism from... but Garrison Keillor?
Keillor hating on Jews and Unitarians
This is spiritual piracy and cultural elitism and we Christians have stood for it long enough. And all those lousy holiday songs by Jewish guys that trash up the malls every year, Rudolph and the chestnuts and the rest of that dreck. Did one of our guys write "Grab your loafers, come along if you wanna, and we'll blow that shofar for Rosh Hashanah"? No, we didn't.Christmas is a Christian holiday -- if you're not in the club, then buzz off.
Fuck you, Keillor. There's plenty of shitty-ass Christmas music written by non-Jews. Singling out Jews is shitty as fuck. Saying that Jewish-written music trashes up the malls? That's contemptible. Using Yiddish in a rant against appropriation of culture? That's fucking hypocritical and asinine.
| 540 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:18:26am |
re: #539 Obdicut
Christmas is a Christian holiday -- if you're not in the club, then buzz off.
Bah, humbug.
| 541 |
The Sanity Inspector Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:19:09am |
re: #536 subsailor68
Here's an interesting story on Europe's version of cap and trade. Oops, who'd have seen this coming?
Fraud in Europe's Cap and Trade System a 'Red Flag,' Critics Say
Won't happen here though, right Senators?
"When buying and selling are legistlated, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators."
-- P. J. O'Rourke
| 542 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:19:24am |
re: #539 Obdicut
Looks like a columnist stuck for an idea doesn't have to be a right winger to jump on the 'War on Christmas' bandwagon.
| 543 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:20:00am |
re: #539 Obdicut
Anti-semitism is one of the few things that binds the far-right and far-left, so that's not surprising per se... but the liberal Keillor jumping on the War on Christmas rhetoric is more than surprising. I never liked him, fwiw.
| 544 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:20:46am |
re: #539 Obdicut
Okay. I should admit this. While I love my Jewish friends here, I do have a particular problem.
I HATE BARBRA STREISAND CHRISTMAS ALBUMS! I THINK IT'S WRONG!
Just, you know, wrong.
| 545 |
Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:20:50am |
re: #481 Sharmuta
How much is there for snow removal in the state budgets? It's not just on the cities. The state needs to clear the rest of the roads.
About 12 years ago, Kentucky had to make some budget decisions and decided to cut their salt purchases. That winter they had the worst ice storm in like 25 years and it seemed about every road from Bowling Green to Augusta was closed for a minimum of 3 days. The morning the storm hit, I was in my car heading south to Lexington to my largest client, Valvoline Oil and after 30 mins there was enough black ice on the Interstate that I turned around and headed back. By the time I crossed the Ohio River, the Kentucky side of the highways were sheets of ice.
| 546 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:22:15am |
re: #524 oaktree
That was a type of story I heard from many folks that day. Me, that afternoon I had to drive (surface streets) about 8 miles roundtrip to pick the ex up from work. Took 90 minutes. Plus the half-hour it took to get thru the drifts in my parking lot.
I still shudder at the memory of that day....
| 547 |
Obdicut Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:22:24am |
re: #543 Sharmuta
He has had several major heart surgeries, which can radically affect your personality, so I guess to be generous I can assume that's what happened.
What the fuck. Jews love Christmas! It's a shopping season! So we write some songs-- and personally, I think the Jewish Christmas music is the best: White Christmas, anyone?-- about how awesome the season is, trying to be respectful, and this is what we get?
I mean, you can't have it both ways. You can't ask everyone to say "Merry Christmas" and then tell them to buzz off if they're not in the club.
| 548 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:22:59am |
I am smelling disaster. Across the street neighbor is trying to make a snow plow for his driveway out of a sheet of plywood and a jeep.
| 550 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:23:47am |
Keillor's always been boring as hell, and now I can call him a boring douche.
| 551 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:24:10am |
| 552 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:24:24am |
re: #550 Mad Al-Jaffee
Is there such a thing as a fascinating douche?
| 553 |
Obdicut Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:24:26am |
re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, I think they're wrong on the basis of being Streisand being wrong to sing, anyway.
re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am smelling disaster. Across the street neighbor is trying to make a snow plow for his driveway out of a sheet of plywood and a jeep.
Egg him on.
Man, I'm glad I don't live in Connecticut or Chicago anymore.
| 554 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:24:38am |
re: #351 Mad Al-Jaffee
I haven't watched this yet, but it's supposed to be good. Especially if you're a Star Wars fan.
[Link: www.slashfilm.com...]
By the way this video was simultaneously funny, dead-on criticism of the movie, and increasingly strange/creepy.
| 555 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:25:31am |
re: #547 Obdicut
Jesus wouldn't mind mom-Christians enjoying Christmas. I'm not sure if Jesus would even have us celebrate it, but since we do, I really can't imagine why He'd want a holiday about Him to be used to spread divisiveness, anger, and hatred. Shame on these "Christians" who think others have no right to share in Good Will Towards Men.
| 557 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:26:30am |
PIMF!
re: #551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Redneck joke in 3... 2...
| 558 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:26:32am |
re: #556 Rightwingconspirator
It was a short lived experiment. No explosions or injuries. They're back inside.
| 560 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:27:06am |
re: #539 Obdicut
That link is going to my brother. He's a big fan of Prairie Home Companion.
| 561 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:27:23am |
re: #558 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Close call though.
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Obdicut Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:27:49am |
re: #555 Sharmuta
And he could have written that without singling out Jews. It's almost like he only did that so he could then be a complete hypocrite by using Yiddish, in a column complaining about cultural appropriation.
| 563 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:28:12am |
Obama about to speak on air according to the news...
| 564 |
The Sanity Inspector Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:28:22am |
re: #539 Obdicut
There are lots of people I expect anti-semitism from... but Garrison Keillor?
Keillor hating on Jews and Unitarians
Fuck you, Keillor. There's plenty of shitty-ass Christmas music written by non-Jews. Singling out Jews is shitty as fuck. Saying that Jewish-written music trashes up the malls? That's contemptible. Using Yiddish in a rant against appropriation of culture? That's fucking hypocritical and asinine.
He's so liberal and open-minded and tolerant and inclusive that he can hate on Jews if he wants, since because he's so liberal and open-minded and tolerant no one would mistake him for a hater.
/need I?
| 565 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:28:32am |
| 566 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:29:03am |
re: #554 jaunte
I still haven't watched it! Between that and some more Fawlty Towers online, I have a lot of video to watch today.
| 568 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:29:47am |
re: #565 Walter L. Newton
On health care reform.
| 569 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:31:00am |
re: #534 Slap
I MOSTLY agree, but can't get used to the (highly skilled) female vocalist. I kinda lost the thread with them after Craig Fuller left. (I love Shake Me Up!) But the Gradney/Clayton/Hayward rhythm section is every bit the equal to the Meters or Nevilles, and worth a listen ANY time.
Shaun Murphy was a terrific addition to the band and a fan favorite...new arrangements of old songs, and new stuff...Little Fear scored a very rare trifecta imo....
Under the Radar
Ain't Had Enough Fun
Chinese Work Songs
her work on these three in a row masterpieces is exemplary...but alas, they fired her earlier this year...all devout BO followers, but the economy crashed, ticket sales dropped and that was it...meanwhile my buddy Richie Hayward is finished, dying of liver disease...it's all over for the Feat and I've followed them for 35 years
| 570 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:31:30am |
re: #566 Mad Al-Jaffee
It's worth watching for the film critique; having the critique delivered by a serial killer is the creepy part.
| 571 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:31:51am |
| 572 |
The Sanity Inspector Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:33:14am |
re: #551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh gosh! they are also using a CHAIN!
Snap a picture and post it here:
[Link: thereifixedit.com...]
Or maybe here:
[Link: thatwillbuffout.com...]
| 573 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:33:17am |
re: #539 Obdicut
There are lots of people I expect anti-semitism from... but Garrison Keillor?
Keillor hating on Jews and Unitarians
Fuck you, Keillor. There's plenty of shitty-ass Christmas music written by non-Jews. Singling out Jews is shitty as fuck. Saying that Jewish-written music trashes up the malls? That's contemptible. Using Yiddish in a rant against appropriation of culture? That's fucking hypocritical and asinine.
Good grief! He really wrote that? Yuck. Not much in the way of Christmas spirit there, imo! I wonder if he even realizes it? Peace on earth, good will to ALL MEN.
| 574 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:34:26am |
re: #548 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am smelling disaster. Across the street neighbor is trying to make a snow plow for his driveway out of a sheet of plywood and a jeep.
HEHEH.
I know nothing of snow plows.
But that sounds more like an adventure to me, instead of a disaster. You ought to go join in. Bring a camera.
| 575 |
Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:34:28am |
re: #569 albusteve
That's a hell of a run for a band. And for you to be there from beginning to end, that's a hell of a thing, also. Mega kudos.
| 576 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:34:45am |
re: #539 Obdicut
There are lots of people I expect anti-semitism from... but Garrison Keillor?
Keillor hating on Jews and Unitarians
Fuck you, Keillor. There's plenty of shitty-ass Christmas music written by non-Jews. Singling out Jews is shitty as fuck. Saying that Jewish-written music trashes up the malls? That's contemptible. Using Yiddish in a rant against appropriation of culture? That's fucking hypocritical and asinine.
Wow.
That I did not expect.
| 577 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:34:48am |
re: #573 reine.de.tout
Good grief! He really wrote that? Yuck. Not much in the way of Christmas spirit there, imo! I wonder if he even realizes it? Peace on earth, good will to ALL MEN.
Dementia... or creeping liberalism to the point of brian damage?
| 578 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:35:35am |
re: #569 albusteve
I don't mean Shaun any criticism -- she's great, I just didn't feel it.
Did they fire her, or release her back to the Silver Bullet Band?
That's SHITTY news about Richie. He's in my top 5 favorite drummers list, has been for decades. Is there a support website? Has Sweet Relief been involved?
| 579 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:36:16am |
re: #566 Mad Al-Jaffee
I still haven't watched it! Between that and some more Fawlty Towers online, I have a lot of video to watch today.
If you like Fawlty Towers (all 12 or so episodes), then I suggest you also check out The Vicar of Dibley. Different sort of comedy; similar laughs.
| 580 |
Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:36:21am |
re: #577 Walter L. Newton
Dementia... or creeping liberalism to the point of brian damage?
More like embracing his midwestern roots.
/
| 581 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:36:45am |
re: #540 Killgore Trout
Bah, humbug.
And Mr. Keillor, I would so much like to 'buzz off', but since your private holiday takes over Western civilization for approximately six to eight weeks on an annual basis, fucking forgive me and Irving Berlin for horning in on it.
| 582 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:38:57am |
re: #581 SanFranciscoZionist
One has to wonder what Mr Keillor will be upset next with the Jews for "encroaching" upon.
| 583 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:38:57am |
re: #581 SanFranciscoZionist
Post that to his site... LOL
| 584 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:38:58am |
re: #542 jaunte
Looks like a columnist stuck for an idea doesn't have to be a right winger to jump on the 'War on Christmas' bandwagon.
It's SPREADING.
| 585 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:39:50am |
re: #582 Sharmuta
One has to wonder what Mr Keillor will be upset next with the Jews for "encroaching" upon.
Good point.
And what his suggested solution will be.
Should I even say that?
| 586 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:41:53am |
I do not condone or endorse this song, but I have to post it:
[Link: www.links2love.com...]
| 587 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:42:03am |
re: #575 Jeff In Ohio
That's a hell of a run for a band. And for you to be there from beginning to end, that's a hell of a thing, also. Mega kudos.
I have followed them all over the country, and got to know them well...if you follow them around they take care of you with lammies to get you backstage at almost any event or venue...pretty cool to hang out with such a cool talented bunch of people...I have my share of Little Feat stories...then of course, you get to meet other acts too, so you get to hob nob with all kinds of famous players...it's all over now I guess
| 588 |
jaunte Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:43:55am |
Here's one answer for Keillor:
Why Do Unitarian Universalists Celebrate Christmas?
...What is true for me is that, in the peeling away of all the layers of history and pageantry and holy wars and Swiss Guards and all the rest, peeling away until we’re back to the message Jesus brought, and seeing Jesus there with those he loved, the hungry, the poor, those in prison, the weak, those who were persecuted, and we catch sight of something of the hope they must have felt. Jesus burst into this world like a flash of hope. That is why we sing this month. That is why we light candles.
[Link: www.firstparish.org...]
| 589 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:44:17am |
| 590 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:44:32am |
Obama
"No longer will the insurance companies be able to drop you when you become sick"
| 592 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:46:37am |
re: #587 albusteve
I really should have suggest something to Cato about running into you around Santa Fe/Albq area. There are really not that far apart (what, 100 miles it appears?). But anyway, I don't know his exact travel plans for his return trip, but maybe you two can meet up?
| 593 |
RogueOne Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:48:45am |
re: #532 HoosierHoops
He went running out the back door at full speed then slowed down..and stopped...sniffed the snow and came running back...Begging to come back in..
Sorry Winston..This is Indiana..Go do your business then you can come back inside...LOL I think my Beverly Hills Chihuahua has issues here in Indiana just like daddy...
HA! One of my dogs does the same, she hates it. She'll try to back up in the door as soon as she realizes there's snow.
| 594 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:50:27am |
re: #593 RogueOne
HA! One of my dogs does the same, she hates it. She'll try to back up in the door as soon as she realizes there's snow.
And our husky will sit outside, in the middle of the night, 3 degree (f) outside and roll in the snow taking a snow bath.
| 595 |
Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:51:15am |
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
| 596 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:52:12am |
re: #593 RogueOne
Our big cat Pepper (Maine Coon) loves to go out. But we keep her close in the enclosed pool area. When its really raining hard she goes out, turns around comes back in and acts angry as hell. At us! I swear she thinks we made it rain.
| 597 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:53:11am |
re: #596 Rightwingconspirator
Sounds like the cat in _The Door Into Summer_ that has to be shown that every door in the house leads to winter...
| 598 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:54:06am |
re: #592 Walter L. Newton
I really should have suggest something to Cato about running into you around Santa Fe/Albq area. There are really not that far apart (what, 100 miles it appears?). But anyway, I don't know his exact travel plans for his return trip, but maybe you two can meet up?
Santa Fe is about 45mi from me...I could have spoken up too, just an afterthought...he will probably come back a different route, at least I would...I'm good with it...he's gonna see some eye poppin country out here and that's what's important...I'll wager he is thoroughly enjoying himself
| 599 |
Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:55:28am |
re: #587 albusteve
I have followed them all over the country, and got to know them well...if you follow them around they take care of you with lammies to get you backstage at almost any event or venue...pretty cool to hang out with such a cool talented bunch of people...I have my share of Little Feat stories...then of course, you get to meet other acts too, so you get to hob nob with all kinds of famous players...it's all over now I guess
Good memories like those are worth more then most anything.
Although I stop following them in the late 70's when I started banging in the NYC punk and noise rock scenes, I always found thier meld of influences from straight out rock to 2nd line N.O. rhythms astonishing. I was raised on Professor Longhair and the Nevilles and lots of folk and country and rock and soul, and Little Feat seemed to take all that, throw it in a pot and serve it up with extreme distinction.
30 years later we were playing in Black Mountain, NC and crashing at a locals house. I was the old guy in the band, the other guys young country rock dudes. Our host was playing DVD's of Jackson Brown and Gram Parsons and about 4 am, all of us wasted on moonshine and mushrooms, he throws on a DVD of Little Feat in. My bandmates, astonishingly, were not familiar with Feat, and the house stilled from the mayhem and they all sat slack jawed and mesmerized.
Sorry to hear about Richie Hayward. That rhythm section is just phenomenal.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:56:30am |
re: #598 albusteve
Santa Fe is about 45mi from me...I could have spoken up too, just an afterthought...he will probably come back a different route, at least I would...I'm good with it...he's gonna see some eye poppin country out here and that's what's important...I'll wager he is thoroughly enjoying himself
Yep, that's why I sent him that way. Actually save a few miles too!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:57:35am |
BTW, does anyone know what Keillor is whining about with the Unitarians and Silent Night. What did the Unitarians do to Silent Night?
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Sharmuta Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:57:55am |
re: #601 SanFranciscoZionist
BTW, does anyone know what Keillor is whining about with the Unitarians and Silent Night. What did the Unitarians do to Silent Night?
Sang it?
| 604 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:58:38am |
re: #594 Walter L. Newton
And our husky will sit outside, in the middle of the night, 3 degree (f) outside and roll in the snow taking a snow bath.
Well, you know, if huskies didn't like snow, they would have sad, sad lives.
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jaunte Sat, Dec 19, 2009 10:59:40am |
re: #601 SanFranciscoZionist
Here's a comment on the Lyric in Question:
A last note on “Silent Night” as it relates to Mr. Keillor’s column. I’ve had the opportunity to check in on the version that our congregation uses, as well as some other UU congregations. In the case of our congregation we’ve been using a version that places more of the original language back in compared to the UUA hymnal. We have a “savior” line, a couple of sleep in heavenly peace’s, but no Lords. Unitarian Universalist’s aren’t too keen on the Lords.
[Link: uugrowth.wordpress.com...]
| 606 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:02:46am |
re: #599 Jeff In Ohio
Good memories like those are worth more then most anything.
Although I stop following them in the late 70's when I started banging in the NYC punk and noise rock scenes, I always found thier meld of influences from straight out rock to 2nd line N.O. rhythms astonishing. I was raised on Professor Longhair and the Nevilles and lots of folk and country and rock and soul, and Little Feat seemed to take all that, throw it in a pot and serve it up with extreme distinction.
30 years later we were playing in Black Mountain, NC and crashing at a locals house. I was the old guy in the band, the other guys young country rock dudes. Our host was playing DVD's of Jackson Brown and Gram Parsons and about 4 am, all of us wasted on moonshine and mushrooms, he throws on a DVD of Little Feat in. My bandmates, astonishingly, were not familiar with Feat, and the house stilled from the mayhem and they all sat slack jawed and mesmerized.
Sorry to hear about Richie Hayward. That rhythm section is just phenomenal.
people unfmiliar are just blown away by LF....they are an extremely tight band, super good musicians and know exactly what they are doing....their live shows are legendary, and THAT started with L George...I have zero interest in the RRHF simply because Little Feat have never even been nominated...ask Mick Jagger, or Bonnie Rait, or Steve Stills or a multitude of others what they think of LF...they are an amazing band, and I would highly recommend them to anybody that digs music and can appreciate high quality stuff...they do it all, no shit
| 607 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:04:51am |
re: #606 albusteve
PS...I am a huge Nevilles fan and post their stuff here from time to time...what a piece of work they are
| 608 |
albusteve Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:05:43am |
my camera is getting antsy...New Mexico beckons
| 610 |
Daniel Ballard Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:06:47am |
re: #608 albusteve
Do you put your shots online?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:06:48am |
Am I missing something, or has all the "settled science" brought to the table at Copenhagen suddenly run up against truth?
This thing is sounding like a train wreck.
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
(And this is El-Guardian, and it's front page, not some "denier" editorial like Monbiot)
LOL.
| 612 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:08:31am |
re: #611 Walter L. Newton
Am I missing something, or has all the "settled science" brought to the table at Copenhagen suddenly run up against truth?
This thing is sounding like a train wreck.
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]
(And this is El-Guardian, and it's front page, not some "denier" editorial like Monbiot)
LOL.
Uh, yes, you're missing something -- for example, the post I put up yesterday linking to this article.
| 613 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:08:38am |
| 614 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:10:06am |
Since we're discussing Christmas carols, here's my nomination for the Best Christmas Album of All Time - A Tapestry of Carols by Maddy Prior and the Carnival Band.
Prior has an outstanding voice, and the arrangements on here span the gamut to extremely traditional (to the point of being almost unrecognizable compared with their more modern versions) to enjoyably outlandish, like Angels from the Realms of Glory done to a stomping Cajun-inspired beat. I really can't recommend this album highly enough - buy it, do it now, it'll quickly become your favorite.
Maddy Prior was also part of the original Steeleye Span band, well known to those enamored of traditional British folk music, and probably completely unknown to anyone else, which is a damn shame. But I digress.
The version linked above is temporarily out of stock; order it anyway. You won't regret it.
| 615 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:10:11am |
re: #612 Charles
Uh, yes, you're missing something -- for example, the post I put up yesterday linking to this article.
Ya beat me to it... I've been busy. Had a house guest.
| 616 |
Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:10:24am |
| 617 |
Jeff In Ohio Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:20:31am |
re: #607 albusteve
PS...I am a huge Nevilles fan and post their stuff here from time to time...what a piece of work they are
No doubt. My bother was a bouncer/door guy for several years in the 80's at Tipitina's when it was on Tchoupitoulas. I had many an opportunity to see some Nevilles, Professor Longhair, the Radiators, etc. Those were rich musical times for me, drinking at the Napoleon House and playing on the street in the Quarter, slamming at Jimmy's, dancing at Tips and the Maple Leaf.
I did not know that Little Feat has not been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That is a real injustice.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:21:54am |
Lovely piece bashing Keillor's column in ChaliceChick.
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Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:26:49am |
re: #614 SixDegrees
Upding for Maddy. One of the greatest British female voices, ever. And the LP is an excellent recommendation.
So I'll give one back atcha:
Canadian singer-songwriter with a warm, expressive voice and a thoroughly adept and delicious touch as a guitarist. It's a mixture of traditional and contemporary as well, with beautiful arrangements. Ideal for a snowy Christmas filled with the warmth of love and family. My personal Christmas favorite.
(Followed by Los Straitjackets' Christmas album -- for those times when latex-tight surf guitar Christmas tunes are required.)
| 620 |
webevintage Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:30:40am |
re: #579 reine.de.tout
If you like Fawlty Towers (all 12 or so episodes), then I suggest you also check out The Vicar of Dibley. Different sort of comedy; similar laughs.
Or Black Books, we just watched the first 3 eps and its pretty damn funny.
The episode of FT with the turkey where Basil beats his car with a branch might be one of the funniest things I have ever seen on TV. The one with the Germans is pretty good too.
| 621 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:32:31am |
re: #618 SanFranciscoZionist
Lovely piece bashing Keillor's column in ChaliceChick.
I've pretty much ignored Keillor ever since his marriage fell apart and he insisted that everyone in the world was obligated to wallow in his misery. That was about 25 years ago, I think.
I see I haven't missed much in the interim, except that he's become even more bitter and self-absorbed, a feat which would have struck me as impossible until glancing at his piece in Salon.
He reminds me a lot of George Carlin, someone else who used to be funny and then became epically not.
I will now return to my decades-long blissful ignorance.
| 622 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:33:45am |
re: #619 Slap
Upding for Maddy. One of the greatest British female voices, ever. And the LP is an excellent recommendation.
So I'll give one back atcha:
Canadian singer-songwriter with a warm, expressive voice and a thoroughly adept and delicious touch as a guitarist. It's a mixture of traditional and contemporary as well, with beautiful arrangements. Ideal for a snowy Christmas filled with the warmth of love and family. My personal Christmas favorite.
(Followed by Los Straitjackets' Christmas album -- for those times when latex-tight surf guitar Christmas tunes are required.)
Wow. I'm shocked - shocked - to find someone else who's heard of Maddy Prior.
I haven't heard of Cockburn. I'll give that a listen when I have the chance.
| 623 |
Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:40:29am |
re: #621 SixDegrees
I can't believe you just compared Garrison Keillor to George Carlin.
I just got a sharp pain in my sense of humor.
| 624 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:45:11am |
re: #623 Girth
I can't believe you just compared Garrison Keillor to George Carlin.
I just got a sharp pain in my sense of humor.
Both used to be funny, a long time ago. Neither was funny years later. Both were consumed by bitterness that spilled into everything they did, said and wrote and corroded their work like battery acid.
As I said, I haven't paid any attention to Keillor in years. My quick glance at where he is today suggests that you may have a point: it's possible he's much, much less funny than Carlin was before his death.
| 625 |
Slap Sat, Dec 19, 2009 11:47:55am |
re: #622 SixDegrees
I'm a music obsessive that has always paid attention to connections. When I read that Ian Anderson was going to be producing an album by Steeleye (for the uninitiated, that would be Now We Are Six), I got interested, and a buddy of mine loaned me A Parcel of Rogues. Been into electrified English folk ever since.
In my mind, Cockburn's skills are the equal of Carthy and Renbourn.
Merry Christmas to ya!
| 626 |
Girth Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:02:36pm |
re: #624 SixDegrees
I know what you mean with Carlin, his later years tended much more towards political rants than humor, and the bitterness was definitely there.
That being said, he was and is my favorite comedian, and I remember the morning that I got up and heard on the radio that he died, and when I told the girl at the coffee shop we talked about some of our favorite Carlin bits.
| 627 |
Mauser Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:11:52pm |
Australian Jihadi, On welfare for 19 years, blew off three attempts at deportation, collected A$1 million and never worked a day.
Bring down the government - after the checks run out.
| 628 |
SixDegrees Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:14:30pm |
re: #626 Girth
I know what you mean with Carlin, his later years tended much more towards political rants than humor, and the bitterness was definitely there.
That being said, he was and is my favorite comedian, and I remember the morning that I got up and heard on the radio that he died, and when I told the girl at the coffee shop we talked about some of our favorite Carlin bits.
My reaction, as well. I could probably recite alarmingly large chunks of his albums and television routines from the 70s, and still view a lot of that material as gold.
I feel the same way about A Prairie Home Companion - it used to be hilarious, then not so much, and by the time it wound down it was a couple years past the point where it had been enjoyable. I guess it returned to the air several years later, after Keillor's first marriage collapsed. I only listened to one show, and it seemed like an hour-long therapy session with Keillor free-associating about how miserable everyone was except him. His latest Salon piece only manages to last a few paragraphs before he starts whining and carping about Norway - where he and Wife #1 lived for a while. Frankly, I'm just not interested in hearing how a multimillionaire has trouble getting his dick wet.
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