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You have to laugh at the things that hurt you just to keep yourself in balance, just to keep the world from running you plumb crazy.
— Ken Kesey
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freetoken Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:32:45pm |
… just to keep the world from running you plumb crazy.
It feels sometimes as if it is the world that has run plumb crazy, not me.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:35:05pm |
What a perfect intro for funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
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austin_blue Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:43:27pm |
re: #2 Escaped Hillbilly
What a perfect intro for funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
Oh, for pity’s sake. The weight of the people will tip the island over? Who is that asshat?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:43:47pm |
Nice Farkalanche going on!
Kudos to Charles!
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:46:46pm |
re: #3 austin_blue
Dem from GA named Hank Johnson. This thing has gone viral. We spent the first hour of our class tonight riffing on this video. The guys didn’t believe me I had seen it on CNN last night so they looked it up and somebody recorded it on his phone. Best part is the little hand motion to indicate the island capsizing.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:47:55pm |
Come out, come out, wherever you are!
albusteve
austin_blue
Dookiestain LaFlair
Escaped Hillbilly
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
Irenicum
palomino
SanFranciscoZionist
wrenchwench
post, dagnabbit!
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austin_blue Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:48:16pm |
re: #6 Floral Giraffe
Come out, come out, wherever you are!
albusteve
austin_blue
Dookiestain LaFlair
Escaped Hillbilly
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
Irenicum
palomino
SanFranciscoZionist
wrenchwenchpost, dagnabbit!
Yo!
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:48:51pm |
re: #6 Floral Giraffe
Come out, come out, wherever you are!
albusteve
austin_blue
Dookiestain LaFlair
Escaped Hillbilly
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
Irenicum
palomino
SanFranciscoZionist
wrenchwenchpost, dagnabbit!
dagnabbit
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austin_blue Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:49:16pm |
re: #5 Escaped Hillbilly
Dem from GA named Hank Johnson. This thing has gone viral. We spent the first hour of our class tonight riffing on this video. The guys didn’t believe me I had seen it on CNN last night so they looked it up and somebody recorded it on his phone. Best part is the little hand motion to indicate the island capsizing.
He’s the Dems answer to Inhofe on Teh Stupid.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:49:42pm |
re: #7 austin_blue
Yo, and a back at you!
Noticed that “the door” has been open for HOURS?
Still open, yet no Charles on the users.
WTF?
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:50:13pm |
I was just served a Google ad for a place I visited today, which startled me until I realized I had visited their website from this computer a couple of days ago. replacements.com
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:51:02pm |
re: #9 austin_blue
He’s the Dems answer to Inhofe on Teh Stupid.
We interrupt this program to bring you the following special report.
The island of Guam has capsized. I repeat, the island of Guam has capsized.
We’ll update this story as news comes in.
Film @ 11.
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austin_blue Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:51:34pm |
re: #10 Floral Giraffe
Yo, and a back at you!
Noticed that “the door” has been open for HOURS?
Still open, yet no Charles on the users.
WTF?
Ooh! Shiny! Gamey buttocks fresh for grilling?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:51:45pm |
re: #12 wrenchwench
Hmm. I could use some replacements. No, not the china or silver kind…
The bodyparts kind!
Happy & hoppy Easter, wrenchwench!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:53:14pm |
re: #14 austin_blue
I think I need to go to sleep.
I’m trolling on LGF for silly replies.
Sleep tight, lizards.
Hasta Manana
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:54:06pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:55:43pm |
re: #13 Gus 802
Wait, this is a volcanic island, right? And most volcanos are like…big cone shaped thingies, right? I mean, kinda like mountains? Hey, has anyone noticed the Rockies tipping over lately?
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:55:47pm |
re: #6 Floral Giraffe
It’s difficult for me to post from this computer. I am unfamiliar with it. The mouse has no left and right buttons, it’s just one big button, and there’s no scroll wheel. I’m pretty limited in my ‘puter know-how. And I forgot how to make it cut and paste. How can one post comments without cutting and pasting?
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austin_blue Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:56:04pm |
Gah! One o’clock. Bedtime. Good night all. Sweet dream.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:57:18pm |
re: #19 wrenchwench
Control C copies
Control V pastes,
IIRC.
Hoppy Easter, bunny to you!
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:57:26pm |
re: #18 Escaped Hillbilly
Wait, this is a volcanic island, right? And most volcanos are like…big cone shaped thingies, right? I mean, kinda like mountains? Hey, has anyone noticed the Rockies tipping over lately?
Mountains tipping over? That would probably take billions, billion of years.
/Sagan
/
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Apr 2, 2010 10:58:53pm |
All right, I’ve had my fun. I have a test in the morning. Rig checks and inspections on bellcranks. Yuck! Night and have fun.
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wrenchwench Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:03:56pm |
re: #21 Floral Giraffe
Control C copies
Control V pastes,
IIRC.
Hoppy Easter, bunny to you!
Tried that, didn’t work. Control C had the same effect as hitting the new comments button. (It’s a Mac, with which I have no experience.) But I don’t want lessons now, I’m too tired. Thanks anyway.
Happy Easter to you!
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:05:45pm |
Good night, all.
May you be blessed with the joys of the season.
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Cheechako Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:05:55pm |
re: #5 Escaped Hillbilly
Dem from GA named Hank Johnson. This thing has gone viral. We spent the first hour of our class tonight riffing on this video. The guys didn’t believe me I had seen it on CNN last night so they looked it up and somebody recorded it on his phone. Best part is the little hand motion to indicate the island capsizing.
I read on another thread that Rep. Johnson is suffering from a serious cancer problem and is taking some experimental cancer drug treatments. The drugs may be affecting his thought processes.
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:29:00pm |
Glenn Beck Bingo! h/t Slacktivist
The rules are simple: Every time Beck violates any of his “values” by displaying its opposite, the first player to call him on it puts an “X” in the appropriate square.
When Beck is dishonest, misleading or mendacious, put an X in the square labeled “honesty.”
When Beck is irreverent, mocking or demeaning that which is sacred, put an X in the square for “reverence.”
When Beck savors and promotes despair, gleefully luxuriating in the ways in which he believes the world is going to Hell in a handbasket, put an X in the square for “hope.”
When Beck tries to sell viewers something they don’t need — something neither useful nor beautiful — put an X in the square for “thrift.”
When Beck swaggers, is prideful or vain, or makes claims beyond his capacity to know or understand, put an X in the square for “humility.”
When Beck is dismissive of those in need or offers reasons viewers shouldn’t bother to assist them, put an X in the square for “charity.”
When Beck is disingenuous, when his indignation is feigned or his outrage or tears are manufactured and rehearsed, put an X in the square for “sincerity.”
When Beck is excessive or extreme or employs unqualified superlatives inappropriately, put an X in the square for “moderation.”
When Beck is cowardly, backing down when confronted or lobbing pot-shots from the distance instead of face-to-face, or picking fights with those who don’t have the media or financial resources to compete, put an X in the square for “courage.”
When Beck refuses to accept personal responsibility or when he offers excuses for viewers so they don’t have to — when he blames Them for every woe facing Us, demonizing the Other and pointing the finger at the scapegoats whom he says are solely responsible for the ills of the world — put an X in the square for “personal responsibility.”
When Beck displays ingratitude, when he displays a sense of entitlement, insisting that his abundance and privilege are exclusively the result of merit, put an X in the square for “gratitude.”
I’ve left “hard work” for last because, to his credit, Glenn Beck is not a lazy man. He does, however, habitually belittle the hard work of others, attributing their misfortune to a presumed laziness and disrespecting the calloused hands and broken backs of the poor. Whenever he does that, put an X in the square for “hard work.”
The first player to get five X’s in a row, vertically, horizontally or diagonally, wins.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:29:32pm |
Well ,, there went three hours of my life that I’ll never get back !!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:29:44pm |
re: #6 Floral Giraffe
Come out, come out, wherever you are!
albusteve
austin_blue
Dookiestain LaFlair
Escaped Hillbilly
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
Irenicum
palomino
SanFranciscoZionist
wrenchwenchpost, dagnabbit!
Oh, OK. Hi everyone!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:30:34pm |
re: #18 Escaped Hillbilly
Wait, this is a volcanic island, right? And most volcanos are like…big cone shaped thingies, right? I mean, kinda like mountains? Hey, has anyone noticed the Rockies tipping over lately?
Yeah, Guam’s base is a mountain. I think it’s fairly stable.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:30:36pm |
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laZardo Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:34:03pm |
re: #6 Floral Giraffe
Come out, come out, wherever you are!
albusteve
austin_blue
Dookiestain LaFlair
Escaped Hillbilly
Floral Giraffe
freetoken
Gus 802
Irenicum
palomino
SanFranciscoZionist
wrenchwenchpost, dagnabbit!
Boo.
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:34:47pm |
Tonight’s topic is Guam and other types of boats and ships.
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:41:01pm |
I understand that the gentleman from Georgia is slightly whacked out on his meds—is it wise for him to be carrying on his regular duties under these circumstances? I mean, the Guam thing is funny, but…
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:46:33pm |
re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist
I understand that the gentleman from Georgia is slightly whacked out on his meds—is it wise for him to be carrying on his regular duties under these circumstances? I mean, the Guam thing is funny, but…
First I ever heard of him. It was an odd moment for sure but I’ve heard worse from people that were allegedly making sense — at least to some people. I don’t think there are medical requirements for holding office. Similar to something like getting a flight surgeon check.
There have been other funny ones:
“A mere 40 years ago, beach volleyball was just beginning. No bureaucrat would have invented it, and that’s what freedom is all about,” Newt Gingrich at the RNC 1996
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:52:21pm |
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freetoken Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:54:24pm |
This story, on the NY Post, and others like it on Fox et. al. are sure to bear rotten fruit in the comments:
He may be the world’s foremost mixed-race leader, but when it came to the official head count, President Obama gave only one description of his ethnic background: African-American.The White House confirmed yesterday that Obama did not check multiple boxes on his US Census form, simply ticking the box for “Black, African Am., or Negro.”
I wonder if HotWingNuts or RedNeckState will run with this story?
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Gus Fri, Apr 2, 2010 11:59:49pm |
re: #40 freetoken
This story, on the NY Post, and others like it on Fox et. al. are sure to bear rotten fruit in the comments:
I wonder if HotWingNuts or RedNeckState will run with this story?
Looks some dodo head already did at RedNakedState.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:00:07am |
re: #37 Gus 802
First I ever heard of him
From the same constituents that brought us Cynthia McKinney (and before her, her father Billy who once pulled a knife on another state rep on the floor of the Georgia State House during an argument while in session)
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:11:11am |
re: #42 sattv4u2
First I ever heard of himFrom the same constituents that brought us Cynthia McKinney (and before her, her father Billy who once pulled a knife on another state rep on the floor of the Georgia State House during an argument while in session)
McKinney wins the prize for all time crazy. Looking at Wiki now and it reminded me about Hank Johnson. He was her “replacement.”
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:15:51am |
re: #43 Gus 802
When her father was her “campaign manager”, Local TV station 11 caught him saying (when asked about her opponent) He replied, “That ain’t nothin’. The Jews done bought everything anyway. That ain’t nothin’.” When the reporter then said, Did you say ‘Jews’?” The campaign manger replied, “That’s right. Jews. J-E-W-S.”
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:19:15am |
re: #44 sattv4u2
When her father was her “campaign manager”, Local TV station 11 caught him saying (when asked about her opponent) He replied, “That ain’t nothin’. The Jews done bought everything anyway. That ain’t nothin’.” When the reporter then said, Did you say ‘Jews’?” The campaign manger replied, “That’s right. Jews. J-E-W-S.”
I remember that. Wasn’t too long ago. Glad she’s gone.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:22:18am |
re: #45 Gus 802
I remember that. Wasn’t too long ago. Glad she’s gone.
heh ,, don’t count on it. With this latest gaff by Johnson, he may decide not to run again for “medical reasons” (RE: the Guam thing, his staff 1st came out and said it was his dry sense of humor,, then that he was just fatigued,,, then leaked that he has Hep C and could have been the meds)
SO ,, if he decides not to run for medical reasons (the voters got sick of him) watch for Cynthia to rise from the ashes
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Lidane Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:32:41am |
re: #40 freetoken
This story, on the NY Post, and others like it on Fox et. al. are sure to bear rotten fruit in the comments:
I wonder if HotWingNuts or RedNeckState will run with this story?
re: #41 Gus 802
Looks some dodo head already did at RedNakedState.
I almost wish President Obama had been filmed saying, “Hey, why isn’t ‘seekrit Mooslim commie terrarist Kenyan’ an option?” Heads would have exploded all over the right-wing blogosphere, while everyone else would have died laughing. Or at least I would have laughed. Heh.
Also, if he’d checked white, that douche at RedState would be skewering Obama for not checking black. No matter what, President Obama won’t get those people on his side.
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freetoken Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:32:53am |
Well, as the-end-of-the-pc-as-we-know-it draws nigh, the net is flush with info on the iPad.
The FCC were the first to publish pics of the internals of the device. Believe it or not, this is the entire logic board of the iPad.
Also, Apple appears to see a greater future for the ARM processor that is the brain to the iPhone and iPad:
Report: Apple purchases another processor design house
Almost two years after purchasing PowerPC designer P.A. Semi, Apple appears to have snapped up ARM design house Intrinsity. According to a report that first appeared on EDN (via electronista), a number of engineers at the company have indicated that they are now or soon will be employed by Apple. Some of them have even gone as far as to change their LinkedIn profiles, with one reverting it—possibly out of fear of drawing the wrath of his new, secretive employer.
Intrinsity is known for its expertise with ARM processors such as the one used in the iPad. The design house has always been fairly quiet about its client list, so it’s quite possible that Intrinsity contributed as much, if not more to the A4 ARM processor that powers the iPad than did P.A. Semi. Intrinsity has done work on customized Cortex A8 processors for the likes of Samsung, so the company’s expertise in the area would be extremely attractive to Apple.
If the sudden disappearance of Intrinsity’s web site is truly an indication that Apple has made another purchase, it’s a clear sign that Cupertino has really big plans for ARM and doesn’t see a future for x86 outside of its desktops and laptops. In addition to powering iPads and iPhones, it’s possible that we could see Apple-created ARM chips in other consumer devices—even HDTVs—if Apple wants to try and stake out more consumer electronics turf.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:33:03am |
re: #46 sattv4u2
heh ,, don’t count on it. With this latest gaff by Johnson, he may decide not to run again for “medical reasons” (RE: the Guam thing, his staff 1st came out and said it was his dry sense of humor,, then that he was just fatigued,,, then leaked that he has Hep C and could have been the meds)
SO ,, if he decides not to run for medical reasons (the voters got sick of him) watch for Cynthia to rise from the ashes
Read on Wiki that he said it was a “facetious metaphor.” I would hope that the DNC would ignore McKinney in any attempt to make a return so she’d have to run as a Green. Johnson actually voted no on TARP. Otherwise it looks like he votes yes on just about everything (with the post 2006 leadership) and also supported the impeach Bush or Cheney bills — which failed of course.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:39:37am |
re: #47 Lidane
I almost wish President Obama had been filmed saying, “Hey, why isn’t ‘seekrit Mooslim commie terrarist Kenyan’ an option?” Heads would have exploded all over the right-wing blogosphere, while everyone else would have died laughing. Or at least I would have laughed. Heh.
Also, if he’d checked white, that douche at RedState would be skewering Obama for not checking black. No matter what, President Obama won’t get those people on his side.
Obama filling out the census form is ripe for spoofing. Would have been great if they did an in house spoof film.
Yeah they didn’t get many comments at RedState. That Weasel Zippers dork blogged about this too and got 11 comments. Someone actually said what you said. That is they would have been getting on his case if he checked white.
Normally I have a problem with checking white for race but this year I went ahead and checked it. I did “other” under Hispanic and Spanish and filled out Argentinian since that’s where I was born. Took me less than a minute to complete the form and seal the envelope.
Seriously though it’s bad form to comment negatively on what Obama checked. Especially coming from that crew.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:44:45am |
re: #2 Escaped Hillbilly
What a perfect intro for funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
He’s got Hep-C and is really sick
Then again it’s Cynthia McKinny’s old seat so who knows.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:49:34am |
re: #46 sattv4u2
heh ,, don’t count on it. With this latest gaff by Johnson, he may decide not to run again for “medical reasons” (RE: the Guam thing, his staff 1st came out and said it was his dry sense of humor,, then that he was just fatigued,,, then leaked that he has Hep C and could have been the meds)
SO ,, if he decides not to run for medical reasons (the voters got sick of him) watch for Cynthia to rise from the ashes
I’m not so sure about the Hep C meds as an excuse for Johnson. My brother had the disease, and was on a regimen of strong meds for a full year. There were lots of severe side effects, but mental retardation was not one of them.
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Lidane Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:52:13am |
re: #50 Gus 802
Obama filling out the census form is ripe for spoofing. Would have been great if they did an in house spoof film.
Just throw in Biden saying that the census is a big fucking deal, and it would have been classic. Heh.
Yeah they didn’t get many comments at RedState. That Weasel Zippers dork blogged about this too and got 11 comments. Someone actually said what you said. That is they would have been getting on his case if he checked white.
Yeah, it’s not something to flame the guy over. He self-identifies as black, and is also quite literally African-American. They should just STFU and pick something else to harp on him about. It’s bad form to get nitpicky about his race like that.
Normally I have a problem with checking white for race but this year I went ahead and checked it. I did “other” under Hispanic and Spanish and filled out Argentinian since that’s where I was born. Took me less than a minute to complete the form and seal the envelope.
Same here. My census form was done and in the mail the same day I got it, and it took me less than two minutes to fill it out. I just checked that I was Mexican-American for my ethnic origin and chose white for the race. It’s really not that big a deal, IMO, so rather than kick up a fuss, I just filled it out and mailed it off.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:55:28am |
re: #50 Gus 802
Normally I have a problem with checking white for race but this year I went ahead and checked it. I did “other” under Hispanic and Spanish and filled out Argentinian since that’s where I was born. Took me less than a minute to complete the form and seal the envelope.
My gf has a cousin who always enters his race as “Mormon.”
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:58:47am |
re: #53 Lidane
Same here. My census form was done and in the mail the same day I got it, and it took me less than two minutes to fill it out. I just checked that I was Mexican-American for my ethnic origin and chose white for the race. It’s really not that big a deal, IMO, so rather than kick up a fuss, I just filled it out and mailed it off.
It’s kind of funny when you think about the people getting all worked about the Census. Not so funny when you think about why they’re doing it now.
They’re getting all bent out of shape saying it’s going to take up their time and invades their privacy. So with regards to time then proceed to spend 1 hour a day for the next 60 days moaning about it like an obsessed lunatic only to have Census leave them a note. So from there they end up having to do a personal interview which takes about 20 minutes sometimes.
All told if you add up the hours the wingnuts have spent on complaining, putting off, and blogging about the Census it’s probably in the millions of hours. Of course if you take 2.9 million of Glenn Becks’s viewers then it’s probably close to 3 million hours. Bunch of weirdos.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 12:59:40am |
re: #47 Lidane
The outrage over Obama’s census choice is equal parts ignorance and ODS.
People with one black parent have historically been DEFINED by the (white) society around them as “black.” Obama didn’t create this system, nor can he transcend it.
The implication that Obama is disrespecting his white ancestry is borderline racial purity paranoia, brought to you by the same folks who think he prays to Mecca and doesn’t have a birth certificate.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:01:25am |
re: #54 Conservative Moonbat
My gf has a cousin who always enters his race as “Mormon.”
Really? Does he think that it’s a race or is that just a statement? I think I did human once. ;) But that might have been an independent contractor census.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:03:03am |
re: #57 Gus 802
Really? Does he think that it’s a race or is that just a statement? I think I did human once. ;) But that might have been an independent contractor census.
Last census, next to race, I wrote in “Third Place”
This year i played it straight
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:04:22am |
re: #56 palomino
The outrage over Obama’s census choice is equal parts ignorance and ODS.
People with one black parent have historically been DEFINED by the (white) society around them as “black.” Obama didn’t create this system, nor can he transcend it.
The implication that Obama is disrespecting his white ancestry is borderline racial purity paranoia, brought to you by the same folks who think he prays to Mecca and doesn’t have a birth certificate.
I also think it started out as the urban myth that ACORN would be conducting the surveys door to door. Another one is that the data collection agency is run by a secret battalion of the Communist central committee. Or something.
Kidding of course. But the ACORN myth was the big reason. It’s not true as we know since it’s a simple form. I wish taxes were this easy.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:06:32am |
re: #59 Gus 802
I also think it started out as the urban myth that ACORN would be conducting the surveys door to door. Another one is that the data collection agency is run by a secret battalion of the Communist central committee. Or something.
Kidding of course. But the ACORN myth was the big reason. It’s not true as we know since it’s a simple form. I wish taxes were this easy.
There will be door to door canvassing with more detailed questions being posed to a percentage of households
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:13:39am |
re: #60 sattv4u2
There will be door to door canvassing with more detailed questions being posed to a percentage of households
Oh. Randomly. They’re sending out “long forms” like that too. You know what they say, “you can’t fight the system.”
People have concerns about privacy but you know it whoever in upper echelons of power both private or public wanted even more information that’s available. That resides in credit reports, court records (both civil and criminal), deeds, records, licenses, etc.
It reminds me of the Patriot Act in a way. Like what are they going to do unless you have something to hide. Any decent FBI hack can check my debt card records and see how many packs of cigarettes I buy a day.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:22:18am |
re: #59 Gus 802
I also think it started out as the urban myth that ACORN would be conducting the surveys door to door. Another one is that the data collection agency is run by a secret battalion of the Communist central committee. Or something.
Kidding of course. But the ACORN myth was the big reason. It’s not true as we know since it’s a simple form. I wish taxes were this easy.
With all the Bachmann-esque hyperbole, I was expecting there might be something slightly onerous about the census form. I was half asleep when I filled it out, and it still only took ONE minute.
The baggers and Bachmann are so out of bounds here that even right wing tools like Rep. Patrick McHenry want them to STFU. Bachmann sees the potential for internment of US citizens if census data is gathered, based on internment camps for Japanese in WWII.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:22:36am |
re: #57 Gus 802
Really? Does he think that it’s a race or is that just a statement? I think I did human once. ;) But that might have been an independent contractor census.
He considers it more relevant to his identity than race.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:25:16am |
re: #61 Gus 802
It reminds me of the Patriot Act in a way. Like what are they going to do unless you have something to hide. Any decent FBI hack can check my debt card records and see how many packs of cigarettes I buy a day.
There’s a site full of liberals here that would care to disagree with you that the Patriot Act is as innocuous as you say.
If memory serves, liberals and Democrats thought the Patriot Act was a data point in the trendline that Bush=Hitler. That bastion of Democratic Party thought, MoveOn.org, even made a campaign ad with the equation Bush=Hitler in it, in big scary chiseled font.
And yes, I know what the definition of “tu quoque” is, so you don’t need to remind me
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:25:53am |
re: #62 palomino
With all the Bachmann-esque hyperbole, I was expecting there might be something slightly onerous about the census form. I was half asleep when I filled it out, and it still only took ONE minute.
The baggers and Bachmann are so out of bounds here that even right wing tools like Rep. Patrick McHenry want them to STFU. Bachmann sees the potential for internment of US citizens if census data is gathered, based on internment camps for Japanese in WWII.
I read she’s changed her story. It turns out Minnesota stands to lose a seat in congress if the census turnout is too low, and it’s most likely going to be hers.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:27:46am |
re: #62 palomino
With all the Bachmann-esque hyperbole, I was expecting there might be something slightly onerous about the census form. I was half asleep when I filled it out, and it still only took ONE minute.
The baggers and Bachmann are so out of bounds here that even right wing tools like Rep. Patrick McHenry want them to STFU. Bachmann sees the potential for internment of US citizens if census data is gathered, based on internment camps for Japanese in WWII.
So. Can we put Michelle Bachmann down as being against the internment camps for Japanese-Americans during WWII and can we get a comment from Michelle Malkin? First time I ever heard that argument before especially from a so called conservative.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:28:22am |
re: #64 Athens Runaway
There’s a site full of liberals here that would care to disagree with you that the Patriot Act is as innocuous as you say.
If memory serves, liberals and Democrats thought the Patriot Act was a data point in the trendline that Bush=Hitler. That bastion of Democratic Party thought, MoveOn.org, even made a campaign ad with the equation Bush=Hitler in it, in big scary chiseled font.
And yes, I know what the definition of “tu quoque” is, so you don’t need to remind me
I’ll just say that nobody who believes in limited government can support the PA in good faith. Nevermind HCR. The Patriot Act was the biggest power grab by the federal government in the past 100 year, if ever.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:31:10am |
re: #65 Conservative Moonbat
I read she’s changed her story. It turns out Minnesota stands to lose a seat in congress if the census turnout is too low, and it’s most likely going to be hers.
Wait, it took her all this time to figure that out? That’s Census 101, and every member of the House knows the significance of districts and state population.
Maybe somebody in the gop finally got to her, but I won’t believe she’s struck a moderate tone until she recants some of her more scurrilous charges.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:32:40am |
re: #64 Athens Runaway
There’s a site full of liberals here that would care to disagree with you that the Patriot Act is as innocuous as you say.
If memory serves, liberals and Democrats thought the Patriot Act was a data point in the trendline that Bush=Hitler. That bastion of Democratic Party thought, MoveOn.org, even made a campaign ad with the equation Bush=Hitler in it, in big scary chiseled font.
And yes, I know what the definition of “tu quoque” is, so you don’t need to remind me
Tu quoque? No, I don’t think of it that way. You’re right. I know people would disagree with my general assessment of the Patriot Act. I would add that there are many on the right that were and are also opposed to the Patriot Act.
I wouldn’t say it was the “bastion” of the Democratic party. It was really only the more leftist elements. Democrats voted for the Patriot Act and has since survived, almost intact, Democratic majorities including the current president. A lot of people that voted for Obama thought he was going to crumple it up and toss it in the trash can but he hasn’t.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:37:28am |
re: #64 Athens Runaway
There’s a site full of liberals here that would care to disagree with you that the Patriot Act is as innocuous as you say.
If memory serves, liberals and Democrats thought the Patriot Act was a data point in the trendline that Bush=Hitler. That bastion of Democratic Party thought, MoveOn.org, even made a campaign ad with the equation Bush=Hitler in it, in big scary chiseled font.
And yes, I know what the definition of “tu quoque” is, so you don’t need to remind me
Opposition to the Patriot Act isn’t all about liberals. Libertarians despise it…remember the Paulites. IIRC Paul was one of the only gopers to vote nay on Patriot Act.
As for the comparisons of our presidents to Hitler, it sucked then and it sucks now. But the whole thing is more problematic now due to the implicit violence that accompanies tea party rhetoric.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:38:42am |
re: #67 Conservative Moonbat
I’ll just say that nobody who believes in limited government can support the PA in good faith. Nevermind HCR. The Patriot Act was the biggest power grab by the federal government in the past 100 year, if ever.
That may be your opinion, but I don’t see any liberals complaining about it now that it’s one of their own at the wheel. Even the ACLU is okay with it, now that their friends are at the wheel.
re: #69 Gus 802
Tu quoque? No, I don’t think of it that way. You’re right. I know people would disagree with my general assessment of the Patriot Act. I would add that there are many on the right that were and are also opposed to the Patriot Act.
I wouldn’t say it was the “bastion” of the Democratic party. It was really only the more leftist elements. Democrats voted for the Patriot Act and has since survived, almost intact, Democratic majorities including the current president. A lot of people that voted for Obama thought he was going to crumple it up and toss it in the trash can but he hasn’t.
Sure, MoveOn has absolutely no influence over the Democratic Party. It’s not like they convinced every single Democratic Party Presidential candidate in 2008 to protest Fox News’s hosting of two Democratic Party primary debates. Nor has their founder said that MoveOn.org “paid for the Democratic Party” and owns it.
They’re a fringe element with absolutely no influence. //
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:41:31am |
re: #71 Athens Runaway
That may be your opinion, but I don’t see any liberals complaining about it now that it’s one of their own at the wheel. Even the ACLU is okay with it, now that their friends are at the wheel.
I guess you don’t read DailyKos then?
There’s been a lot of bitching about this. I fully expect Kuchinich to run a primary challenge against Obama in 2012.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:42:13am |
re: #66 Gus 802
So. Can we put Michelle Bachmann down as being against the internment camps for Japanese-Americans during WWII and can we get a comment from Michelle Malkin? First time I ever heard that argument before especially from a so called conservative.
She contends that it was the evil 1940 census that enabled FDR to round up all those Japanese-Americans she suddenly cares for so much.
If FDR hadn’t had a list of names from the census, would he have just dropped the whole plan? On Planet Bachmann, bizarro logic says YES!
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:43:07am |
re: #71 Athens Runaway
Sure, MoveOn has absolutely no influence over the Democratic Party. It’s not like they convinced every single Democratic Party Presidential candidate in 2008 to protest Fox News’s hosting of two Democratic Party primary debates. Nor has their founder said that MoveOn.org “paid for the Democratic Party” and owns it.
They’re a fringe element with absolutely no influence. //
OK, you want to focus on MoveOn. That’s fine. My point is that Nancy Pelosi voted yes on the Patriot Act in 2001. She voted against only certain reauthorization of certain provisions of the Patriot Act in 2005. Obama extended the Patriot Act with the help of Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate. Doesn’t seem like they’re listening to MoveOn now does it?
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:45:45am |
re: #73 palomino
She contends that it was the evil 1940 census that enabled FDR to round up all those Japanese-Americans she suddenly cares for so much.
If FDR hadn’t had a list of names from the census, would he have just dropped the whole plan? On Planet Bachmann, bizarro logic says YES!
You read my mind. They would have implemented the internment camps with or without the Census. Seems like she forgot about that other list from Immigration and Naturalization. Or that is she ignored it.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:46:02am |
re: #72 Conservative Moonbat
I guess you don’t read DailyKos then?
There’s been a lot of bitching about this. I fully expect Kuchinich to run a primary challenge against Obama in 2012.
I have no idea what universe you’re living in, if you “fully expect” the guy who changed his “no” vote on HCR to a “yes” in exchange for a ride on Air Force One… to primary against the guy who successfully convinced him to change his vote.
Kuchinich was proof that every man has his price, and that HCR was an acceptably large step towards Dennis’s stated dream of single-payer care.
All Obama would have to do to get him to drop his primary challenge would be to take him on another little jaunt on AF1.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:46:16am |
re: #72 Conservative Moonbat
I guess you don’t read DailyKos then?
There’s been a lot of bitching about this. I fully expect Kuchinich to run a primary challenge against Obama in 2012.
Kucinich is worse than Perot or Pat Buchanan, at least in this respect. I’m afraid he may keep running every 4 years—with no regard to the political climate—until he’s dead.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:47:53am |
re: #74 Gus 802
OK, you want to focus on MoveOn. That’s fine. My point is that Nancy Pelosi voted yes on the Patriot Act in 2001. She voted against only certain reauthorization of certain provisions of the Patriot Act in 2005. Obama extended the Patriot Act with the help of Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate. Doesn’t seem like they’re listening to MoveOn now does it?
Congrats, you found one issue that MoveOn.org and the Democratic Party disagree on.
Are you seriously arguing that MoveOn is unsupportive of the Dems?
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:48:55am |
re: #77 palomino
Kucinich is worse than Perot or Pat Buchanan, at least in this respect. I’m afraid he may keep running every 4 years—with no regard to the political climate—until he’s dead.
Kucinich is like the left wing version of Michelle Bachmann. They’re actually similar in many respects. Another one is Mike Gravel. All of them are oddly similar to Ron Paul.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:50:04am |
re: #78 Athens Runaway
If it were me, I’d be arguing that your unseemly obsession with moveon is telling :P
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:51:22am |
re: #71 Athens Runaway
The ACLU is “OK” with the Patriot Act? Not exactly.
Plenty of liberals still complain about it, but unlike the right’s tea partiers, the left’s nuts are pretty marginalized at the moment.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:51:33am |
re: #76 Athens Runaway
I have no idea what universe you’re living in, if you “fully expect” the guy who changed his “no” vote on HCR to a “yes” in exchange for a ride on Air Force One… to primary against the guy who successfully convinced him to change his vote.
Kuchinich was proof that every man has his price, and that HCR was an acceptably large step towards Dennis’s stated dream of single-payer care.
All Obama would have to do to get him to drop his primary challenge would be to take him on another little jaunt on AF1.
It wasn’t the ride on Air Force One. It’s what was said to him while he was on it. I don’t know if it was promises or warnings but it got him in line. The fucking plane had nothing to do with it.
We’ll get single payer. Regulations to prevent murder by spreadsheet will kill the insurance industry because they can’t survive without declaring newborns have preexisting conditions. Single payer is miles away from socialized medicine like they have in the UK and is likely the only thing that will work once the insurance companies are put out of business. It’s just a shame that all the insurance executives can’t be put in jail for life for hundreds of thousands of cases of murder.
Sorry, I’m trolling.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:53:11am |
re: #78 Athens Runaway
Congrats, you found one issue that MoveOn.org and the Democratic Party disagree on.
Are you seriously arguing that MoveOn is unsupportive of the Dems?
You must have me mistaken for a) a spokesman for Move On and b) a spokesman for the DNC. Move On is one of many PACs that have an influence on the DNC. It’s a common mistake for people to identify Move On as being far-left. They’re actually more in line with progressives.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:54:10am |
re: #79 Gus 802
Kucinich is like the left wing version of Michelle Bachmann. They’re actually similar in many respects. Another one is Mike Gravel. All of them are oddly similar to Ron Paul.
I almost voted for Mike Gravel. He was by far the most intellectual candidate running in the Democratic primaries.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:54:29am |
re: #75 Gus 802
You read my mind. They would have implemented the internment camps with or without the Census. Seems like she forgot about that other list from Immigration and Naturalization. Or that is she ignored it.
She’s not just crazy, but also stupid, reckless and sloppy. A bad combination for a leader; then again, most other teabag leaders fit that bill.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:55:34am |
re: #80 windsagio
If it were me, I’d be arguing that your unseemly obsession with moveon is telling :P
Whatever. I’m sorry for pointing out that a group—that, in the past 4-6 years, took out national ads to call Gen. Petraus a “traitor”, forced the Democratic presidential candidates to shun a TV network that the group disliked, ran national TV ads comparing Bush to Hitler, and ran national ads insinuating that John McCain would be directly responsible for an infant’s death—is and has been a part of the mainstream Democratic Party.
Sorry, guys. I forgot that all history began on November 3, 2008, and that none of that stuff ever happened.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:55:51am |
re: #84 Conservative Moonbat
I almost voted for Mike Gravel. He was by far the most intellectual candidate running in the Democratic primaries.
He is the best choice out of that list.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:57:02am |
re: #86 Athens Runaway
Missing the point entirely.
You’re echo-chambering crap about the chosen targets. I’m sure a month ago it was ACORN, and before Breitbart set them up it was (well still ACORN, but also) Ayers.
Its predictable, and belies any sense of original thought.
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Velvet Elvis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:57:15am |
re: #86 Athens Runaway
Whatever. I’m sorry for pointing out that a group—that, in the past 4-6 years, took out national ads to call Gen. Petraus a “traitor”, forced the Democratic presidential candidates to shun a TV network that the group disliked, ran national TV ads comparing Bush to Hitler, and ran national ads insinuating that John McCain would be directly responsible for an infant’s death—is and has been a part of the mainstream Democratic Party.
Sorry, guys. I forgot that all history began on November 3, 2008, and that none of that stuff ever happened.
Under Howard Dean’s tenure at the DNC all those fringe groups were pretty much show the back door.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:58:42am |
re: #76 Athens Runaway
I have no idea what universe you’re living in, if you “fully expect” the guy who changed his “no” vote on HCR to a “yes” in exchange for a ride on Air Force One… to primary against the guy who successfully convinced him to change his vote.
Kuchinich was proof that every man has his price, and that HCR was an acceptably large step towards Dennis’s stated dream of single-payer care.
All Obama would have to do to get him to drop his primary challenge would be to take him on another little jaunt on AF1.
You’re vastly oversimplifying the whole affair, particularly the importance of a plane ride.
Kucinich is as close to a true believer as either party has. If he still thinks Obama is a “corporate whore” two years from now, he may very well run. He’s got a lot of Ralph Nader in him. And he was asked about it last week, and explicitly refused to rule it out.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:58:46am |
re: #88 windsagio
Missing the point entirely.
You’re echo-chambering crap about the chosen targets. I’m sure a month ago it was ACORN, and before Breitbart set them up it was (well still ACORN, but also) Ayers.
Its predictable, and belies any sense of original thought.
So I am lying about those things? You’re claiming that none of those things ever happened?
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 1:59:36am |
re: #91 Athens Runaway
I’m saying that you’re misrepresenting them, and don’t even know the difference.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:01:59am |
re: #93 Varek Raith
Random talking-points righty.
Also the socket where I had a tooth this morning hurts (or yesterday morning now), and that makes me grumpy
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:03:47am |
re: #93 Varek Raith
Morning!
What’re we squabbling about?
:)
Not squabbling here. Just something about MoveOn ruling the world.
Or something.
/
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:05:31am |
re: #91 Athens Runaway
So I am lying about those things? You’re claiming that none of those things ever happened?
So. Did you fill out your Census form?
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:06:26am |
re: #86 Athens Runaway
Whatever. I’m sorry for pointing out that a group—that, in the past 4-6 years, took out national ads to call Gen. Petraus a “traitor”, forced the Democratic presidential candidates to shun a TV network that the group disliked, ran national TV ads comparing Bush to Hitler, and ran national ads insinuating that John McCain would be directly responsible for an infant’s death—is and has been a part of the mainstream Democratic Party.
Sorry, guys. I forgot that all history began on November 3, 2008, and that none of that stuff ever happened.
Of course there’s a connection, but the idea that they march in anything resembling lockstep is absurd.
You wanted more than one issue where Obama parts ways with MoveOn. How about Iraq, Afghanistan, gay rights, single payer, public option, nuclear power plants, and now offshore drilling?
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:09:42am |
re: #92 windsagio
I’m saying that you’re misrepresenting them, and don’t even know the difference.
Ah, so I’m stupid AND malicious. Good to know.
Ultimately, it matters not. If you want to claim that MoveOn.org never ran an idea that said in ginormous font, “General Petraeus or General Betray Us?”, that’s your right. It’s also your right to say that I’m taking it out of context or whatever.
It’s also your right to say that I’m misrepresenting the facts.
re: #96 Gus 802
So. Did you fill out your Census form?
Yes, I did. Why do you ask? Oh right, I’m “random talking points righty” as wind says, and I have nothing to bring to the table. Nice to see that a Lizard in good standing for 5 years is still accepted around here, even though I don’t post as often as I used to.
Shrug, I just logged on cuz I can’t sleep, and was looking for some interesting conversation. Not, as Joe Biden might say, a big ****ing deal :)
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boredtechindenver Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:09:52am |
“nom nom nom fap fap fap nom fap nom fap nom fap fap fap fap nom nom nom”
sorry, my filter isn’t set for “Athens Runaway”, so I am manually pasting this.
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:09:58am |
Surely some intrepid person here has posted this already….
Militia Nut Made Sexy Duck-Porn-Murder Video
Okay, fine. That Jabba the Hutaree militia guy made some weird home movie and it was on YouTube and now it’s not but TPM has some video excerpts so go look at it and be titillated if that’s your thing: “Kris Sickles appears entirely naked but for a mask of President George W. Bush that obscures some, but not all, of his genitalia. In the film, Sickles’s chubby, tattooed character finds himself attacked by an enormous creature which appears to be half man, half duck.”
The paper George W. Bush mask is taped to this fat militia guy’s dick we guess, and his nutsack is hanging underneath the George W. Bush mask. Who even knows, man. And the duckman is wearing a diaper, and there’s some sort of fake blood and fart noises, and the fat guy yells “dildo,” so wacky.
Links and vid at article. Most definitely NSFW.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:10:48am |
re: #99 boredtechindenver
“nom nom nom fap fap fap nom fap nom fap nom fap fap fap fap nom nom nom”
sorry, my filter isn’t set for “Athens Runaway”, so I am manually pasting this.
I lol’d. Very classy.
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boredtechindenver Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:13:12am |
re: #101 Athens Runaway
I lol’d. Very classy.
I never go for classy.
Hey Ice, maybe I should have pasted the “Nom-Fap” after your post.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:13:13am |
re: #98 Athens Runaway
Why the heck are you all so worked up? You keep repeating your Move On talking points.
You seem to assume that you have people “pegged” in here when you basically only show up only a few times a week. You had no idea what we were talking about until you decided to latch on to Move On.
Even after I agreed with you, you still tried to force the dialogue to make us look like we’re all a bunch of Move On members. Frankly, you’re not making much sense.
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:13:23am |
Was the point of bringing up MoveOn a way to deflect from the current news of teh crazee?
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:14:57am |
re: #98 Athens Runaway
That should read “never ran an ad”. Apologizes for it coming out “idea.” It’s getting late, and I’m getting sleepy.
I’m off to go to bed, it’s been interesting as LGF always is. When I wake up, perhaps I shall take boredtechindenver’s suggestion and and go “nom nom nom fap fap fap”.
Love,
Random Righty Talking-points
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:15:54am |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Was the point of bringing up MoveOn a way to deflect from the current news of teh crazee?
Totally. I also skulk around in forests and make naked duck porn. //
You have me totally pegged, man. Your Dark Jedi powers never cease to amaze. :)
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:15:56am |
re: #98 Athens Runaway
Don’t worry, I’m sure you’re just stupid OR malicious. No need to assume you’re both.
The problem is that you can’t break out of your pre-expected forms of debate. This isn’t a place like KOS or the HuffPost where you can get away with that kind of argument. In general here people won’t play by those rules, but actually have nuanced positions. The painful part is that when the discussion DOESN’T match your expectations you try to force people into the mold anyways.
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:16:39am |
re: #106 Athens Runaway
Totally. I also skulk around in forests and make naked duck porn. //
You have me totally pegged, man. Your Dark Jedi powers never cease to amaze. :)
I am a Sith. Got here late, so I’m somewhat lost.
:)
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:17:30am |
re: #107 windsagio
Actually some people like to do that, but if I named them, I’d be accused of being unduly partisan ;)
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:17:35am |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Was the point of bringing up MoveOn a way to deflect from the current news of teh crazee?
Not even that. It just came out of the blue. I actually made a statement supporting the Patriot Act and he went off about Move On and reminding me of the Bush-Hitler statements. Then he went as far as assuming I was going to call him out on tu quoque but I reversed that and said I agreed with him but he’s still banging the drum about Move On. I didn’t really support the Patriot Act. I just said I wasn’t worried about it.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:17:43am |
re: #98 Athens Runaway
We all know MoveOn ran the crappy Petraeus ad. So what? It doesn’t reflect the thinking of Obama or a significant number of congressional dems. Indeed, at the time, most Dems denounced the ad in no uncertain terms.
As for congressional gopers, it’s certainly no stretch to say that they are beholden to tea partiers and fat radio/TV talking heads. Indeed, they are so afraid of these groups that they are virtually incapable of criticizing them in any way.
Bottom line: Dems have marginalized their whack jobs; the GOP now embraces theirs. Big difference.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:18:00am |
re: #108 Varek Raith
I am a Sith. Got here late, so I’m somewhat lost.
:)
Which is why I complimented you. Awesome use of flow-walking.
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:18:31am |
re: #102 boredtechindenver
I never go for classy.
Hey Ice, maybe I should have pasted the “Nom-Fap” after your post.
Heh. That would have worked too. ;)
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:18:47am |
Well then, here’s my take. MoveOn sucks. Most partisan sites do.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:19:19am |
re: #111 palomino
We all know MoveOn ran the crappy Petraeus ad. So what? It doesn’t reflect the thinking of Obama or a significant number of congressional dems. Indeed, at the time, most Dems denounced the ad in no uncertain terms.
As for congressional gopers, it’s certainly no stretch to say that they are beholden to tea partiers and fat radio/TV talking heads. Indeed, they are so afraid of these groups that they are virtually incapable of criticizing them in any way.
Bottom line: Dems have marginalized their whack jobs; the GOP now embraces theirs. Big difference.
Seriously. Dinner with MoveOn or Petraeus. I’d pick Petraeus.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:20:13am |
re: #114 Varek Raith
My only opinion on Moveon is that the song Mike Doughty did for it was really great.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:20:36am |
re: #113 iceweasel
Hey Ice what’s up? Umm, miss you around these parts.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:20:56am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Theres this man, see, and he keeps her tied to the bed.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:21:25am |
re: #116 windsagio
Actually that’s not quite true. I essentially like their positions. I think their methods are a little iffy tho :P
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:21:32am |
re: #118 windsagio
Theres this man, see, and he keeps her tied to the bed.
And this weird guy wears a skirt!
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:22:44am |
re: #121 windsagio
Sounds like a perv to me.
Must save the damsel in distress!
Off I go to save the day!
Or not.
:)
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:22:59am |
re: #120 Varek Raith
And this weird guy wears a skirt!
With an octopus in one hand and bagpipes in the other. /
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:23:03am |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Was the point of bringing up MoveOn a way to deflect from the current news of teh crazee?
It’s all about the equivalency, false or not.
The faulty logic runs like this: If both sides have nutjobs, then both sides are the same and the right wing fanatics can be excused. Not very persuasive, but that doesn’t stop the meme’s use ad infinitum.
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:24:24am |
re: #106 Athens Runaway
Totally. I also skulk around in forests and make naked duck porn. //
You have me totally pegged, man. Your Dark Jedi powers never cease to amaze. :)
NAKED duck porn? As opposed to what? You’ve seen a clothed duck?
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:24:31am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Hey Ice what’s up? Umm, miss you around these parts.
hey cutie! Miss you too!
Hanging with Jimmah, obv. I just baked these lemon bars. He’s making tea.
What’s shakin?
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:24:50am |
Ok Lizards, I’m out for reals.
Apparently I need to quit skulking around in Michigan forests, stop playing militia with my work buddies, and quit just lurking. Actually participate, although the demographics around here have had a sea-change since I was a more regular member.
Either that or just quit using LGF to entertain myself and talk with interesting people.
-“Stupid And/Or Malicious Random Righty Talking-Points Guy”
Damn I wish we could change our handles on this site… haha!
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:27:24am |
re: #129 Athens Runaway
actually, come back in about 4 hours. Then people will be on to agree with you that the summation of the Democratic (or “Democrat”, if you will) party is MoveOn.org.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:28:17am |
re: #128 iceweasel
hey cutie! Miss you too!
Hanging with Jimmah, obv. I just baked these lemon bars. He’s making tea.
What’s shakin?
Love lemon bars. Not much. Money’s really low over the weekend. My current client isn’t due back until Monday. Haven’t payed the rent and three other bills. Neck’s still a pain.
Got a call from another old client for possible job on a preliminary design. I’m hoping things will pick up this spring and summer. I think it will. Please let this recession end.
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:28:46am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:30:35am |
re: #129 Athens Runaway
Don’t assume and quit whining. You don’t like sea change then you either adjust, leave, or figure out a way not to seem like you just dropped a hit of acid.
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:31:49am |
re: #133 Gus 802
Love lemon bars. Not much. Money’s really low over the weekend. My current client isn’t due back until Monday. Haven’t payed the rent and three other bills. Neck’s still a pain.
Got a call from another old client for possible job on a preliminary design. I’m hoping things will pick up this spring and summer. I think it will. Please let this recession end.
I’ll let you know how these turn out!
ugh— so sorry to hear about the rent etc and the neck. That sucks. I really hope things pick up for you soon. For everyone.
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Pamela Gellar [sic(k)] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:32:53am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:33:11am |
re: #133 Gus 802
Love lemon bars. Not much. Money’s really low over the weekend. My current client isn’t due back until Monday. Haven’t payed the rent and three other bills. Neck’s still a pain.
Got a call from another old client for possible job on a preliminary design. I’m hoping things will pick up this spring and summer. I think it will. Please let this recession end.
Seriously, a Sith Lord working temp jobs does not a badass make.
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windsagio Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:33:40am |
anyways, that was randomly fun; I’m off to try to sleep I think!
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boredtechindenver Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:36:55am |
Teh Sadlies had a post earlier this week about the /b/tards hitting the Hutaree message boards. Just a short glimpse made me laugh and reach for the brain/eye bleach.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:38:17am |
re: #141 boredtechindenver
Teh Sadlies had a post earlier this week about the /b/tards hitting the Hutaree message boards. Just a short glimpse made me laugh and reach for the brain/eye bleach.
I love 4chan when they focus their energies on the evil :D
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palomino Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:38:46am |
re: #136 Gus 802
Don’t assume and quit whining. You don’t like sea change then you either adjust, leave, or figure out a way not to seem like you just dropped a hit of acid.
If that dude just dropped acid, he’s having a very bad trip. Regurgitating OLD talking points is probably the worst possible way to enter the magical mysterious world of psychedelic chemicals.
BUT it would explain his monomaniacal insistence that we’re all closet MoveOn contributors.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:38:51am |
re: #134 iceweasel
hahaha— LOVE IT!
Wow, that is pretty cool.
Thankee. And yes, the “commentary” on it is accurate. q;
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:40:20am |
re: #139 Varek Raith
Seriously, a Sith Lord working temp jobs does not a badass make.
In many ways it’s like dealing with Siths. Feudal lords, tax men, landlords, sanctions, fines, and such. It’s just a modern day version. I even get to hear about exorcisms and decrees from the Pope from time to time including lower forms of life such as Tony Perkins. Even my “carriage” has past its expiration date on the registration. Soon the constable will be at my door. /
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:43:03am |
Hmm, I need to find someone to make me an awesome outfit like this.
That’s Darth Revan from Knights of the Old Republic.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:44:02am |
re: #141 boredtechindenver
Teh Sadlies had a post earlier this week about the /b/tards hitting the Hutaree message boards. Just a short glimpse made me laugh and reach for the brain/eye bleach.
I’m having to read ED just to keep up. >_>
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:47:52am |
re: #143 palomino
If that dude just dropped acid, he’s having a very bad trip. Regurgitating OLD talking points is probably the worst possible way to enter the magical mysterious world of psychedelic chemicals.
BUT it would explain his monomaniacal insistence that we’re all closet MoveOn contributors.
I’m still trying to figure out what Move On has to do with things. Frankly. If one were to use the most up to date model of conservatism as defined by Glenn Beck, Teabaggers, and Constitutionalists, then they would be against the Patriot Act and have a lot more in common with Move One. I don’t think they can figure it out so they get a little confused. They want to have their cake and eat it too but they can’t do neither.
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 2:57:04am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:00:14am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:04:03am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:06:48am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:10:27am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:14:18am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:17:50am |
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Gus Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:21:54am |
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rwdflynavy Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:39:35am |
Good Morning to the Lizard Army!
Ice’s lemon bars look yummy, I’m stealing that blog, always looking for new recipes.
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Capitalist Tool Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:16:19am |
re: #111 palomino
…Bottom line: Dems have marginalized their whack jobs; the GOP now embraces theirs. Big difference.
Some Dems marginalize their whack jobs, some GOP members embrace theirs. Not much difference…
Greed, lust for power, corruption- the real issues- it all runs pretty thick on both sides, if you ask me.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:26:51am |
Gus, you finally posted some of my fav’s. Now I’m going to have to fire up a punk playlist.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:37:16am |
re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist
I understand that the gentleman from Georgia is slightly whacked out on his meds—is it wise for him to be carrying on his regular duties under these circumstances? I mean, the Guam thing is funny, but…
I had an employee die from Hep a couple years ago. He was almost 50, had been in prison most of his adult life, managed to get himself cleaned up in prison and died the day they released him from work release. They released him at 9pm and he was dead the next morning. Kenny’s life was fucked up till the end.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:38:00am |
re: #165 lazardo
My younger brother listens to that crap. He think’s he was born in the 40’s, weirdo.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:41:46am |
re: #167 RogueOne
The 50s were about the only time you could drive a pink car and still be called a straight guy.
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Kruk Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:45:46am |
re: #82 Conservative Moonbat
It wasn’t the ride on Air Force One. It’s what was said to him while he was on it. I don’t know if it was promises or warnings but it got him in line. The fucking plane had nothing to do with it.
We’ll get single payer. Regulations to prevent murder by spreadsheet will kill the insurance industry because they can’t survive without declaring newborns have preexisting conditions. Single payer is miles away from socialized medicine like they have in the UK and is likely the only thing that will work once the insurance companies are put out of business. It’s just a shame that all the insurance executives can’t be put in jail for life for hundreds of thousands of cases of murder.
Sorry, I’m trolling.
A thought: If the SCOTUS finds part of a bill is unconstitutional (say the individual mandate), is the entire bill struck down, or just that portion?
If it was just the mandate that was struck down, that would work out nicely if Obama really did want to destroy the current insurance system (as some claim.) The insurance companies would then have to take on everyone regardless of pre-existing conditions, and be limited in the premiums they could charge, but there would be no way to make healthy people carry insurance to spread the cost. The insurance companies would be in for a world of hurt.
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Wozza Matter? Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:49:57am |
re: #170 Kruk
i believe that only the mandate would be struck down - the rest of thr provisions would remain in tact.
My thoughts on the AG’s fighting this law are quite unprintable.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:53:35am |
re: #171 wozzablog
i believe that only the mandate would be struck down - the rest of thr provisions would remain in tact.
My thoughts on the AG’s fighting this law are quite unprintable.
If it ain’t fixed, don’t broke it.
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Kruk Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:54:28am |
re: #171 wozzablog
i believe that only the mandate would be struck down - the rest of thr provisions would remain in tact.
My thoughts on the AG’s fighting this law are quite unprintable.
Heh. If it does work out like that, I wonder if the people who brought the case and won would have a *facepalm* moment when they realised they had just made it *more* difficult for the private insurance system to continue?
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:55:29am |
re: #173 Kruk
Heh. If it does work out like that, I wonder if the people who brought the case and won would have a *facepalm* moment when they realised they had just made it *more* difficult for the private insurance system to continue?
That would be the worst case scenario. If they get the mandate tossed the majority of the funding for the bill goes down the toilet.
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Kruk Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:59:05am |
re: #174 RogueOne
That would be the worst case scenario. If they get the mandate tossed the majority of the funding for the bill goes down the toilet.
Which would impact on the budget deficit, which would an ideal opportunity to sneak in a single payer system under reconciliation…. :)
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Jadespring Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:00:31am |
Morning Lizards
Looks like another warm day here today.
Last night I actually had to put a fan on because my bedroom was so hot.
Totally bizzare thing to have to do in April.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:01:15am |
re: #176 Jadespring
Morning Lizards
Looks like another warm day here today.
Last night I actually had to put a fan on because my bedroom was so hot.
Totally bizzare thing to have to do in April.
We broke records in Indy the last 2 days. It’s been great!
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:02:34am |
re: #82 Conservative Moonbat
I’d strongly recommend listening to this episode of This American Life to learn more about how the health insurance industry got started, and how it operates today. There’s a vast amount of bad information parroted without any actual analysis.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:04:55am |
Meaningless State Department drivel alert:
“We are always concerned that steps taken by either side, legitimate or otherwise, can be misconstrued, can be twisted and end up causing turbulence that can be an impediment to progress,” Crowley said.
jpost.com
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Jadespring Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:07:21am |
re: #177 RogueOne
We broke records in Indy the last 2 days. It’s been great!
Not sure if it was record breaking here though I think it was close.
I’m really noticing the effects of the lack of snow and rainfall though. Usually the back half of my property is under standing water at this time of year. The ground is wet but no water. It’s too bad, I really enjoy all the frogs and the pair of cranes that usually come for the spring, set up their nest in a copse of trees and spend the days feasting on them. I did see them fly in scope everything out and leave. Haven’t seen them since.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:12:13am |
re: #177 RogueOne
We broke records in Indy the last 2 days. It’s been great!
You bet!
Good Morning Rogue
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:14:21am |
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:14:46am |
re: #153 Gus 802
The Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
[Video]
[pedantic]
It’s DEAD KENNEDYS, not THE DEAD KENNEDYS.
[/pedantic]
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:15:36am |
re: #180 Jadespring
We had an above normal amount of snow around here this winter and we’ve had plenty of rain so far this spring. The farmers around here should be fairly happy.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:16:36am |
re: #181 HoosierHoops
You bet!
Good Morning Rogue
Morning Hoops, ready for the big day? My spouse has dropped out on me but I still have friends going, including my cop buddy who’s working the streets tonight, so I may end up just going by my lonesome and hooking up with people downtown.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:17:01am |
re: #183 negativ
[pedantic]
It’s DEAD KENNEDYS, not THE DEAD KENNEDYS.
[/pedantic]
What are you, some kind of (Grammar) fascist?!
/ q;
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:18:10am |
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:20:57am |
re: #183 negativ
[pedantic]
It’s DEAD KENNEDYS, not THE DEAD KENNEDYS.
[/pedantic]
Why didn’t they just call themselves “FUCK YOU AMERICA”?
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:21:20am |
re: #187 Varek Raith
They’re fun to antagonize, no?
I add unneeded punctuation, my favorite being excessive apostrophes, expecting to drive Cato nutz but he’s let me slide, so far.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:21:49am |
re: #185 RogueOne
Morning Hoops, ready for the big day? My spouse has dropped out on me but I still have friends going, including my cop buddy who’s working the streets tonight, so I may end up just going by my lonesome and hooking up with people downtown.
Yes…Big weekend.. I’m jacked up…
Go Butler!
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Jadespring Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:23:02am |
re: #184 RogueOne
We had an above normal amount of snow around here this winter and we’ve had plenty of rain so far this spring. The farmers around here should be fairly happy.
Some farmers here are already talking drought. The worry is over the spring/early summer haying. They may have to take the hay earlier then usual to get it before it browns plus it effects the yield. It also affects the normal pasture rotation of the cattle. Not sure how exactly.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:23:25am |
re: #190 HoosierHoops
Yes…Big weekend.. I’m jacked up…
Go Butler!
I have faith today. They’re going to beat MSU. I’m not so sure about beating duke or wvu
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Jadespring Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:24:25am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:25:28am |
re: #192 RogueOne
I have faith today. They’re going to beat MSU. I’m not so sure about beating duke or wvu
Go Manchester United!
Wait, what???
:P
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Jadespring Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:26:42am |
re: #193 RogueOne
Where are you Jade?
East coast of Lake Huron to be more specific. SW Ontario is a big place.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:27:33am |
re: #192 RogueOne
I have faith today. They’re going to beat MSU. I’m not so sure about beating duke or wvu
They keep hitting shots like they have they can beat any body in the Nation.
And they play man to man defense really well
It’s like Coach Norman Dale from the Movie Hoosiers..
Pass it 4 times boys! Damn..They really do…
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:28:43am |
re: #194 Jadespring
South-west Ontario.
What are the main crops around there? In central Indiana every field is either corn or soybeans. Pretty boring.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:29:32am |
re: #197 HoosierHoops
They play just like the building they’re in, old school.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:30:32am |
re: #188 Spare O’Lake
Why didn’t they just call themselves “FUCK YOU AMERICA”?
Because it would have made no sense. “FUCK YOU, CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND PROUDLY IGNORANT ASSHOLES” would have made more sense, but “DEAD KENNEDYS” offers something to think about.
Hi
I’m your video DJ
I always talk like I’m wigged out on quaaludes
I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I goMy job is to help destroy
What’s left of your imagination
By feeding you endless doses
Of sugar-coated mindless garbageSo don’t create
Be sedate
Be a vegetable at home
And thwack on that dial
If we have our way even you will believe
This is the future of rock and roll
MTV, GET OFF THE AIR
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:34:11am |
re: #200 lazardo
/beatboxes
Hi You! How goes school? Our local University is in the Final Four.. It’s really cool and people are really excited here in Indiana…
I’ll be moving this year away..But damn.. I really am going to miss Indiana..
They just love Ball here…In 49 other States it’s called Basketball..
In Indiana it’s a way of life
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:35:44am |
re: #202 HoosierHoops
Dude… did you see Kenny Mayne’s bit on Sportscenter with Butler? Hysterical.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:37:08am |
re: #203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dude… did you see Kenny Mayne’s bit on Sportscenter with Butler? Hysterical.
No! crap! I’m switching to ESPN so maybe I can catch it this morning
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Jadespring Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:38:02am |
re: #198 RogueOne
What are the main crops around there? In central Indiana every field is either corn or soybeans. Pretty boring.
Well where I am it’s mostly beef cattle because it’s really rocky but drive half an hour south and you hit primo land. You see soybeans, other types of beans, corn, wheat, canola and dairy cattle. It changes every year. Lost of apple orchards around too.
It’s a great area to live in if you like getting a variety of fresh food right off the farm. I can even get fresh bison and elk if the desire hits.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:38:11am |
re: #202 HoosierHoops
Hi You! How goes school? Our local University is in the Final Four.. It’s really cool and people are really excited here in Indiana…
I’ll be moving this year away..But damn.. I really am going to miss Indiana..
They just love Ball here…In 49 other States it’s called Basketball..
In Indiana it’s a way of life
Researching for a marketing plan for my ancestral-family-home-turned museum. Dad’s first paycheck should arrive before the end of the month.
And oddly enough, this country just LOVES Basketball, though we don’t really go far with because - well - we’re short. ):
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:38:22am |
re: #204 HoosierHoops
They rip (the whole team, including the coach) on Kenny asking them questions that get them uncertain.
That team actually acted. Was really funny.
Those guys are very, very loose.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:42:03am |
re: #203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This?
espn.go.com
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:46:28am |
re: #206 lazardo
Researching for a marketing plan for my ancestral-family-home-turned museum. Dad’s first paycheck should arrive before the end of the month.
And oddly enough, this country just LOVES Basketball, though we don’t really go far with because - well - we’re short. ):
That’s awesome bro..
Yes..Basketball players are generally freakishly tall…Sometimes you’ll see a really fast guard that is short.. But the average point today is around 6’2” and fast as lightning…
/I’m happy for your pops…Great news
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:48:09am |
re: #208 RogueOne
That’s it. I’m rooting for Butler. (I did root for Valpo years ago. I likey the Cinderella story)
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:48:49am |
re: #211 HoosierHoops
That’s awesome bro..
Yes..Basketball players are generally freakishly tall...Sometimes you’ll see a really fast guard that is short.. But the average point today is around 6’2” and fast as lightning…
/I’m happy for your pops…Great news
When you’re out and about in Baton Rouge, it’s very easy to spot the ex-LSU basketball players.
Freakishly tall. Many, now, with gray hair and beards. LOL.
Morning, Hoops!
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:50:41am |
re: #211 HoosierHoops
And don’t forget the sponsorships. Here, the basketball team is actually referred to in newspapers as the “[sponsor]-RP” basketball team.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:50:59am |
re: #213 reine.de.tout
When you’re out and about in Baton Rouge, it’s very easy to spot the ex-LSU basketball players.
Freakishly tall. Many, now, with gray hair and beards. LOL.
Morning, Hoops!
Good Morning Reine! Big night tonight!
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:51:36am |
re: #205 Jadespring
No real beef cattle around here but in the last 10 years or so we’ve had quite a few large dairy and pig farms pop up. One dairy farm has led to the best news story of the last year:
Indiana ‘Poop Bubble’ Crisis Comes To An End
I missed that they finally resolved the problem this week. It kind of makes me sad, I desperately wanted to see youtube video of that guy in a little boat popping it with knife. The Wall St. Journal story said the last time someone tried that it blew him 40’ in the air.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:54:09am |
re: #215 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Reine! Big night tonight!
I’ll say, they’re premiering Band of Brothers: The Pacific Edition in a few minutes. :D
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:57:31am |
re: #217 lazardo
I’ll say, they’re premiering
Band of Brothers:The PacificEditionin a few minutes. :D
You know..I thought the Pacific was going to be really good..Like Band of Brothers…I thought it pretty much sucked for a war movie..I really wanted it to be good…Sucked.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 5:58:42am |
re: #218 HoosierHoops
You know..I thought the Pacific was going to be really good..Like Band of Brothers…I thought it pretty much sucked for a war movie..I really wanted it to be good…Sucked.
Don’t hold back, man. I need to know if you liked it.
/
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:00:18am |
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ryannon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:00:33am |
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:01:50am |
re: #218 HoosierHoops
I haven’t actually seen a good movie on the Korean War. They make movies about WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, the last two haven’t even technically finished yet.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:02:05am |
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:03:05am |
re: #222 lazardo
I haven’t actually seen a good movie on the Korean War. They make movies about WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, the last two haven’t even technically finished yet.
We did have M*A*S*H
That was it for TV or Movies
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:04:04am |
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:06:17am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:06:41am |
In a related television note:
I watch only a few shows. One is “Fringe.” I Tivo’d the show the other night. They changed the opening music and some little things in the show. And what I hated was within 5 minutes I knew how the episode I was watching was gonna end. And I think I know what will happen at the end of the season. I was even saying lines before they were spoken. And verbatim. I hate this. One thing I really liked about the show was it kept me guessing. Not so much anymore.
This is a reason I quit going to movies. To freaking easy to figure out a plot. Hollywood has really shown me nothing in the last decade.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:07:25am |
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:08:25am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:09:29am |
re: #229 HoosierHoops
I never saw it..But wasn’t that about Vietnam?
Not Korea
My bad. I didn’t read Lazardo’s post.
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ryannon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:09:30am |
re: #178 SixDegrees
I’d strongly recommend listening to this episode of This American Life to learn more about how the health insurance industry got started, and how it operates today. There’s a vast amount of bad information parroted without any actual analysis.
But…but…that’s a PUBLIC RADIO production! Straight from Commie infiltrators and financed by sekrit NWO Jooo Bankers…. !
How could anything from that possibly be true?
Ear Bleach, quick!
/
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:09:59am |
re: #226 HoosierHoops
LOL
Don’t make me come over there!
Good Morning
Bring it, ya generally freakishly tall Hoosier!
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ryannon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:11:10am |
re: #180 Jadespring
Not sure if it was record breaking here though I think it was close.
I’m really noticing the effects of the lack of snow and rainfall though. Usually the back half of my property is under standing water at this time of year. The ground is wet but no water. It’s too bad, I really enjoy all the frogs and the pair of cranes that usually come for the spring, set up their nest in a copse of trees and spend the days feasting on them. I did see them fly in scope everything out and leave. Haven’t seen them since.
Have you thought of putting in some banana and breadfruit trees?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:12:43am |
re: #233 ryannon
Have you thought of putting in some banana and breadfruit trees?
I have, but then there’s that whole what to do with the flying monkeys problem!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:13:41am |
re: #232 sattv4u2
Bring it, ya generally freakishly tall Hoosier!
In a couple of months I’m gone from Indiana…I may return for next years Indy 500.. but..I’m out of here…No more wicked cold Indiana Winters
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Cathypop Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:14:53am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
In a couple of months I’m gone from Indiana…I may return for next years Indy 500.. but..I’m out of here…No more wicked cold Indiana Winters
Morning everyone.
Where you moving to?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:15:00am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
In a couple of months I’m gone from Indiana…I may return for next years Indy 500.. but..I’m out of here…No more wicked cold Indiana Winters
Whats that got to do with that fact that you’re a generally freakishly tall Hoosier!?!?
//
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:15:23am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:15:45am |
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:15:46am |
re: #231 ryannon
But…but…that’s a PUBLIC RADIO production! Straight from Commie infiltrators and financed by sekrit NWO Jooo Bankers… !
How could anything from that possibly be true?
Ear Bleach, quick!
/
Heh. Extremists on both sides will find a lot do dislike about this episode. It pops a lot of balloons.
Pretty funny, too, when they start talking about pet insurance, and a pygmy hedgehog on anti-psychotic medication. But it’s best to listen for yourself…
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:16:43am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
In a couple of months I’m gone from Indiana…I may return for next years Indy 500.. but..I’m out of here…No more wicked cold Indiana Winters
Wish you could have seen the heydays of the 500 and the Indiana High School tourney. My family moved here just in time to see it all go away, doh! In the late 80’s the entire months of March and May were nuts around here. The night before the 500 was the biggest party on the planet. Almost a million people in a few square miles partying all night. It was really ugly and a lot of fun.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:17:05am |
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:18:08am |
re: #234 sattv4u2
I have, but then there’s that whole what to do with the flying monkeys problem!
buy ‘em some typewriters.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:18:39am |
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ryannon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:18:54am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
In a couple of months I’m gone from Indiana…I may return for next years Indy 500.. but..I’m out of here…No more wicked cold Indiana Winters
And the last dance for Mary-Jane, too…. (I know, I know, but it’s an all-around great one)
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:19:25am |
re: #236 Cathypop
Morning everyone.
Where you moving to?
We are building a office across the Street from the University of Oklahoma..
I’m building the Network for us there.. Then I move to Singapore when it’s up and running.
Someday I’ll get back home to California
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:19:42am |
re: #222 lazardo
I haven’t actually seen a good movie on the Korean War. They make movies about WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, the last two haven’t even technically finished yet.
The Bridges at Toko-Ri (Naval Aviation side).
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:19:51am |
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ryannon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:21:47am |
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:22:00am |
re: #247 Decatur Deb
And “Pork Chop Hill” (Gregory Peck).
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:22:15am |
re: #240 SixDegrees
Heh. Extremists on both sides will find a lot do dislike about this episode. It pops a lot of balloons.
Pretty funny, too, when they start talking about pet insurance, and a pygmy hedgehog on anti-psychotic medication. But it’s best to listen for yourself…
When I got my female from a rescue they included pet insurance for a year. Personally in that type of scenario the insurance is a good idea. A few years ago we took in a doberman we knew we were going to have to shell out a lot of money for vet bills up front, without insurance, so it wasn’t a deciding factor in getting my female but the rescue told us it had really helped in getting more dogs placed. We let it lapse, my dogs are healthy and pet insurance makes as much sense as paying for phone insurance.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:22:58am |
re: #246 HoosierHoops
I’ve spoken with Mandy about moving to the mid west. (not together!!) Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. She suggested Ft. Smith, Arkansas. I’ve actually looked into it. Something special about their women.:)
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:23:37am |
re: #241 RogueOne
Generally.. I like Indiana…Will miss it…But time to move on bro
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sattv4u2 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:24:49am |
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:24:54am |
re: #246 HoosierHoops
We are building a office across the Street from the University of Oklahoma..
I’m building the Network for us there.. Then I move to Singapore when it’s up and running.
Someday I’ll get back home to California
Didn’t realize that’s where you were headed. That’s the alma mater of one of my sisters. It’s also where my other sister met her husband. I guess you take the good with the bad./
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:26:58am |
re: #253 HoosierHoops
Generally.. I like Indiana…Will miss it…But time to move on bro
I love Indianapolis and I like being close to Chicago, Cinci, Detroit, and St. Louis but all in all, I’ve been ready to move for years.
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:30:16am |
re: #251 RogueOne
When I got my female from a rescue they included pet insurance for a year. Personally in that type of scenario the insurance is a good idea. A few years ago we took in a doberman we knew we were going to have to shell out a lot of money for vet bills up front, without insurance, so it wasn’t a deciding factor in getting my female but the rescue told us it had really helped in getting more dogs placed. We let it lapse, my dogs are healthy and pet insurance makes as much sense as paying for phone insurance.
I can see that. But the larger point in the show was that, by removing costs from the supply/demand equation, things wind up getting severely distorted. It’s a point they revisit in other segments, and there’s a lesson there for why medical costs rise so fast that is worth looking at. They also investigate some solutions that have been put into actual practice and have produced actual results.
On a somewhat related note, I suspect that one result of the HCR bill will be the consolidation of insurance companies, as mergers and acquisitions flourish and smaller companies are either eliminated or swallowed, making the larger even larger.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:32:19am |
re: #256 RogueOne
I love Indianapolis and I like being close to Chicago, Cinci, Detroit, and St. Louis but all in all, I’ve been ready to move for years.
I move every couple of years…Our Company does Managed moves.. a truck pulls up and packs you up and takes your shit away..
This will be an easy move…Singapore will be a little more complex.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:32:38am |
re: #240 SixDegrees
Heh. Extremists on both sides will find a lot do dislike about this episode. It pops a lot of balloons.
Pretty funny, too, when they start talking about pet insurance, and a pygmy hedgehog on anti-psychotic medication. But it’s best to listen for yourself…
…. and the people who most need to listen to it never will, because it doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker. I’m just about convinced that it’s completely useless to try to persuade anyone about anything. We don’t have debate and discussion anymore. We do have 24/7 hyperbole carnivals, however.
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:35:18am |
re: #259 negativ
… and the people who most need to listen to it never will, because it doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker. I’m just about convinced that it’s completely useless to try to persuade anyone about anything. We don’t have debate and discussion anymore. We do have 24/7 hyperbole carnivals, however.
Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. It seems that everyone is aspiring to be Howard Stern. Or, as someone remarked about the remake of Clash of the Titans, it’s a 3D world filled with 2D characters.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:35:56am |
re: #259 negativ
… and the people who most need to listen to it never will, because it doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker. I’m just about convinced that it’s completely useless to try to persuade anyone about anything. We don’t have debate and discussion anymore. We do have 24/7 hyperbole carnivals, however.
Correct. Most don’t actually do research or have a forum like LGF to get actual facts. They parrot MSLSD or Fox News. I love debating these people.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:38:11am |
The Big Ben case is supposed to go to the prosecutor soon and Ben still hasn’t spoken with the police. Good call on his part.
The investigation into a sexual assault allegation against Pittsburgh Steelers’ Ben Roethlisberger will likely be finished without a second interview with the quarterback, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported on Friday.“We’re getting close to the end,” Milledgeville Police Chief Woodrow Blue told the newspaper on Thursday.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:39:19am |
Yawn…Slept down stairs with the new pup..
She did great!
Our other dog?
Not so much!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:46:26am |
re: #262 RogueOne
The Big Ben case is supposed to go to the prosecutor soon and Ben still hasn’t spoken with the police. Good call on his part.
[Link: sports.espn.go.com…]
Big Ben is an Idiot.
Since when does a Super Bowl QB need to trash girls in a Bathroom in a college bar?
Dumbass
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:47:35am |
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darthstar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:49:02am |
Trying to wake up with a cup of coffee…got about six inches of snow last night here at lake level. It’s going to be an epic day patrolling.
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ryannon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:51:25am |
re: #265 darthstar
Good morning everyone…
Morning! A plateful of steaming Commie health care propaganda Public Radio coming up for ya’
/ I’m listening to it right now, it’s really interesting….
re: #178 SixDegrees
I’d strongly recommend listening to this episode of This American Life to learn more about how the health insurance industry got started, and how it operates today. There’s a vast amount of bad information parroted without any actual analysis.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:54:36am |
re: #267 darthstar
Trying to wake up with a cup of coffee…got about six inches of snow last night here at lake level. It’s going to be an epic day patrolling.
I’ll trade you my expected high of 80F today for your 6 inches of snow. Deal?
:not looking forward to hot-ass summer:
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:55:23am |
re: #269 negativ
I’ll trade you my expected high of 80F today for your 6 inches of snow. Deal?
:not looking forward to hot-ass summer:
May I ask where you are?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:58:11am |
re: #269 negativ
I’ll trade you my expected high of 80F today for your 6 inches of snow. Deal?
:not looking forward to hot-ass summer:
How about our 28 degrees (f). That’s what it is at 8:00am mountain time. High today says 50 degrees (f) and low tonight will be 21 degrees (f).
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 6:59:58am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:00:29am |
re: #271 Walter L. Newton
How about our 28 degrees (f). That’s what it is at 8:00am mountain time. High today says 50 degrees (f) and low tonight will be 21 degrees (f).
Gonna be in the 80’s all week here. Soon, 95 degrees with 95% humidity.:(
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:02:13am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:05:42am |
re: #273 Cannadian Club Akbar
Gonna be in the 80’s all week here. Soon, 95 degrees with 95% humidity.:(
Summers are grand up here at 8200 feet. I’ve lived in Dallas (hot but dry, dry helps a bit), Houston (hot and wet, if there was never a New Orleans, Houston would be it) and the East Coast (warm and wet), and none of those places have a summer that is comfortable. But Colorado, at least from Denver to the western slopes, tends to be rather comfortable in the summer. Of course Denver, is a little warmer in the summer, but the nights are bearable, up here, the nights are almost always back down to the 40’s-50’s and even it it hits close to 90 on some days in Aug., the surrounding air itself still retains some of that cool of the night and of course it’s dry.
It’s really almost perfect weather up here at 8200 feet in the summer.
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darthstar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:07:30am |
re: #269 negativ
I’ll trade you my expected high of 80F today for your 6 inches of snow. Deal?
:not looking forward to hot-ass summer:
Nah…I’m going to go enjoy one last ‘winter skiing’ moment…tomorrow it’ll be over 40 degrees on the mountain and by the middle of next week it’ll be in the 50s.
We get our hot summer weather fast and heavy here in California.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:09:41am |
re: #276 darthstar
Nah…I’m going to go enjoy one last ‘winter skiing’ moment…tomorrow it’ll be over 40 degrees on the mountain and by the middle of next week it’ll be in the 50s.
We get our hot summer weather fast and heavy here in California.
Hey you! California Native? Been to Napa Valley?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:09:55am |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
I would probably get a constant nose bleed at that altitude. Other than driving through mountains, I have lived at 3 feet above sea level for my entire life.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:11:07am |
re: #268 ryannon
Some great music in this episode, too. So far, I’ve heard Squirrel Nut Zippers, DEVO, and Raymond Scott.
(Raymond Scott is one of America’s best-kept secrets. I’d venture to say that almost everyone has heard some of his music, yet he remains pretty much unknown.)
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:15:00am |
re: #278 Cannadian Club Akbar
I would probably get a constant nose bleed at that altitude. Other than driving through mountains, I have lived at 3 feet above sea level for my entire life.
Nope. You body adjusts. Some people come up here, even in Denver (which is at 5000+ feet) and get a bout of altitude sickness for a few days (like a flu) but they get over that soon enough, and your breathing will adjust.
I have rarely seen anyone move up her that couldn’t adjust to the altitude except in cases where someone already have chronic respiratory problems or possibly massive weight problems where they just can’t deal with the altitude.
It’s normally not a problem. You hear about anecdotal situations from visitors, but that mainly because they only spent a week or two here, and they never got the chance to adjust, so they were miserable for the whole time.
That’s an anomaly.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:18:55am |
re: #280 Walter L. Newton
That reminds me of Hawaii Walter…
It is so hot and humid that people sweat like pigs..After about 6 weeks you adjust and don’t sweat any more..
That is how you tell tourists in Hawaii..They are just soaking in sweat…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:20:37am |
re: #281 HoosierHoops
That reminds me of Hawaii Walter…
It is so hot and humid that people sweat like pigs..After about 6 weeks you adjust and don’t sweat any more..
That is how you tell tourists in Hawaii..They are just soaking in sweat…
But it would seem if there is a breeze all would be fine considering the temp of the ocean. But I have never been there.
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William of Orange Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:24:18am |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:24:36am |
re: #281 HoosierHoops
That reminds me of Hawaii Walter…
It is so hot and humid that people sweat like pigs..After about 6 weeks you adjust and don’t sweat any more..
That is how you tell tourists in Hawaii..They are just soaking in sweat…
South Louisiana - there is no adjusting.
mid May, June, July, August, September, until mid October - it’s just miserable.
The upside - it’s so humid, our skin stays nice and hydrated, no parchment skin here.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:24:44am |
re: #282 Cannadian Club Akbar
But it would seem if there is a breeze all would be fine considering the temp of the ocean. But I have never been there.
I was there for 3 years…Like Walter says about Denver..You adjust…
I absolutely Loved living in Hawaii.. I have a shit load of pictures.. I can’t wait to move to Singapore next year.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:25:26am |
Fred Phelps’ estranged son holds closet door for dad
The estranged son of homophobic preacher man Fred Phelps granted his first television interview to a Canadian news magazine. Nate Phelps told Peter Klein of The Standard current-affairs program that he believes his father displays the signs of being a “sociopath” and the Westboro Baptist Church is cult-like.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:26:20am |
re: #280 Walter L. Newton
To show us the difference between 500 ft above sea leave and 5500, When I was first sent Ft. Huachuca the made us do a PT test within a few days of arrival. I almost puked.
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RogueOne Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:28:19am |
re: #286 Killgore Trout
Fred Phelps’ estranged son holds closet door for dad
Nate Phelps told Peter Klein of The Standard current-affairs program that he believes his father displays the signs of being a “sociopath” and the Westboro Baptist Church is cult-like.
Really? I wonder if anyone else has noticed.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:28:57am |
re: #284 reine.de.tout
South Louisiana - there is no adjusting.
mid May, June, July, August, September, until mid October - it’s just miserable.The upside - it’s so humid, our skin stays nice and hydrated, no parchment skin here.
Good morning Reine! Big day for Indiana!
I went to Zydecos in Indiana for lunch the other day.. Every thing is flown in fresh from NO
Talk about fricking heaven:
zydecos.net
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:30:06am |
Senegal unveils world’s biggest Frank Frazetta statue.
The $28-million statue has been criticized as a waste of money in a country with crumbling infrastructure and welfare provision, while Muslims have branded it “un-Islamic” for presenting the human form as an object of worship.
“We have issued a fatwa urging Senegal’s imams this Friday to read the holy Koran in the mosques simply to ask Allah to preserve us from the punishment this monument of shame risks bringing on Senegal,” imam Massamba Diop told followers at his central Dakar mosque, using the term for a religious ruling.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:31:17am |
re: #290 HoosierHoops
Good morning Reine! Big day for Indiana!
I went to Zydecos in Indiana for lunch the other day.. Every thing is flown in fresh from NO
Talk about fricking heaven:
[Link: www.zydecos.net…]
Great menu!
I hope the food is good.
Liked the comic, too!
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:32:46am |
Pat Condell’s latest:
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:33:58am |
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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:34:01am |
re: #293 MandyManners
SNIP
I’m calling “bullshit”.
You should see what Pat has to say about “Anti-Semitism” and the “Catholic Church” in my #294.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:34:14am |
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:35:13am |
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:35:38am |
re: #285 HoosierHoops
I was there for 3 years…Like Walter says about Denver..You adjust…
I absolutely Loved living in Hawaii.. I have a shit load of pictures.. I can’t wait to move to Singapore next year.
Post some on Flickr, why don’cha!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:36:17am |
re: #293 MandyManners
SNIP
I’m calling “bullshit”.
Your not the first to call BS on this one Mandy, but thanks for bringing it up. As for me, I call “Watergate”.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:36:27am |
re: #286 Killgore Trout
I don’t know how much of this is accurate, but here is a VERY in-depth history of the Phelps family. Fascinating stuff, IMO.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:37:08am |
re: #292 reine.de.tout
Great menu!
I hope the food is good.
Liked the comic, too!
It’s an awesome little joint in Mooresville, In. I’d say about 8 of us drove there for lunch one day.. Damn good food..And you know me and food..
So..I’m not shy..Before we all left I sat down at the Piano and played some licks for the lunch crowd..
( I only know a few licks..But they are good licks)
*wink*
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:39:04am |
re: #293 MandyManners
SNIP
I’m calling “bullshit”.
Give me a call next time 6 million+ Catholics are forcibly removed from their homes, separated from their families, and used as slave labor (unless they are deemed unfit to work, in which case they go straight to the gas chambers).
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:40:08am |
re: #299 The Sanity Inspector
Post some on Flickr, why don’cha!
I need a scanner.. These are ‘real pictures’ We lived in Hawaii from 89 to 91.
Digital camera’s were only a dream back then.. But..I got a shit load of pictures..You don’t live in Hawaii without taking a ton of pics!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:42:27am |
re: #305 MandyManners
I heard this story on NPR last night while I was busy bustling about the house so I didn’t hear everything the newsreader said but I caught her (him?) saying something about how this message was not meant for general consumption, that it was solely for the pope.
That makes it worse. The pope, of all people, should be smart enough, and well enough versed in history to understand that this is a false analogy.
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:44:51am |
re: #304 HoosierHoops
I need a scanner.. These are ‘real pictures’ We lived in Hawaii from 89 to 91.
Digital camera’s were only a dream back then.. But..I got a shit load of pictures..You don’t live in Hawaii without taking a ton of pics!
No scanner? You can get a decent one for fairly cheap. My only advice is “avoid Visioneer”. pricescan.com
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:47:35am |
Guy on my radio does high end repo work. Not cars. Planes, yachts, cargo ships, race horses. Wow.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:48:44am |
re: #308 The Sanity Inspector
No scanner? You can get a decent one for fairly cheap. My only advice is “avoid Visioneer”. [Link: www.pricescan.com…]
Thanks..That should be a project.. Jeez I’ve just got thousands of Pics that need to be Digitized and stored.. Kids..Places..Parties.. I mean this is going to be a major project…I’ll probably get an HP scanner
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:49:53am |
re: #311 HoosierHoops
Thanks..That should be a project.. Jeez I’ve just got thousands of Pics that need to be Digitized and stored.. Kids..Places..Parties.. I mean this is going to be a major project…I’ll probably get an HP scanner
Seems it might be worth the money to take them to a photo shop and just let them do it.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:50:57am |
re: #309 MandyManners
The last paragraph:
He faces allegations that, as archbishop of Munich and later as the Vatican’s chief morals enforcer, he helped to protect predator priests.
I’ve posted a few links about this recently, about how an alcoholic pedophile was sent to rehab and how a therapist/priest raised hell about how he should never be allowed near children. Ratzinger ignored it.
Then he should be forced out as Pope, if that’s true. That would be evidence of a grave moral failing.
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:52:25am |
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:52:46am |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
That makes it worse. The pope, of all people, should be smart enough, and well enough versed in history to understand that this is a false analogy.
Ratzinger was a member of the Hitlerjugend during the bad old days. Oh sure, he was “unenthusiastic” about it.
But let’s consider the story of another former leader in the Hitlerjugend: a devout Christian girl who took a moral stand and never backed down from it, and paid for it with her life, along with her brother and others.
But of course, the Pope is the sanctified, infallible arbiter of all morality, straight from the chair of Peter.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:54:02am |
re: #312 Cannadian Club Akbar
Seems it might be worth the money to take them to a photo shop and just let them do it.
It’s hard to believe I don’t have a scanner.. Dang it! I’m lame..
I have lots of toys..I don’t own a scanner..Idiot…I’ll buy one next week
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:54:17am |
re: #288 RogueOne
To show us the difference between 500 ft above sea leave and 5500, When I was first sent Ft. Huachuca the made us do a PT test within a few days of arrival. I almost puked.
You can tell the difference, but most people get use to it really quickly.
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:56:17am |
re: #284 reine.de.tout
You are right about better skin. When I lived in Augusta GA, there was a huge difference from the dry mid west winters on my skin.
Happy Easter, Reine! Jesus has risen!
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:56:31am |
re: #311 HoosierHoops
Thanks..That should be a project.. Jeez I’ve just got thousands of Pics that need to be Digitized and stored.. Kids..Places..Parties.. I mean this is going to be a major project…I’ll probably get an HP scanner
If the time cost is too much, you might consider hiring a video conversion service.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 7:59:13am |
Some interesting thoughts on the terror group who threatened governors….
Guardians of the free Republics looked to Gandhi, King, and Mandela
Actively recruiting across the country in the last few months and promoted on a Texas radio station, the Guardians of the free Republics believe the US government is a corporate imposter put in place by corrupt bankers as part of the New Deal in 1933.
Jews! This is standard Birch Society/Alex Jones/Glenn Beck type stuff.
The Anti-Defamation League says “sovereign citizen” groups wage war against authority using “paper terrorism,” but rarely resort to violence.
….
The Los Angeles Times writes that the “group’s philosophy mingles with the anti-Federal Reserve mantra espoused by followers of US Rep. Ron Paul of Texas as well as with anti-tax advocates.”But while a return to constitutional ideals is what much of the conservative tea party movement is about, experts say the Guardians are a different animal altogether. They can be primarily traced to the anti-IRS Posse Comitatus movement of the 1980s, and their modern iteration is, if not non-partisan, anti-partisan.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:00:15am |
I’m so happy this morning. I dug up some almost free lapidary equipment to replace the large set up I had 5 years ago, the set up I had to sell to make it through these dry times I have been having. But I just rustled up some stuff for just about nothing, and I just started to work a piece of turquoise into a nice teardrop pendant which I am going to make a brooch out of for my girlfriend.
If you have never worked a piece of stone, you have no idea how comfortable it can be to work with your hands, grinding away, shaping, polishing and turning a rough piece of stone into a wonderful piece of art.
I’m starting back up with turquoise before I start with my favorite stone, opal. I need to get my “touch” back before I start cutting an expensive stone like gem quality opal. I have a parcel of opal that I’ve hung on to for years since I sold my machines, and I have been anticipating the day when I could get back to them and unearth those wonderful colors for all to see.
I guess I’m kind of waxing poetic about cutting rocks, but there really is an art to cutting stones.
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Cathypop Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:05:23am |
re: #324 Walter L. Newton
The jeweler near me has gotten back into working with rocks. It is his passion. He just finished one for me that looks like a fish. He named it “fishin in the rocks” Can’t remember what stone it is.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:06:43am |
re: #320 The Sanity Inspector
If the time cost is too much, you might consider hiring a video conversion service.
Thanks for the advice
I’m already starting to pack cause I’m moving this summer. Pics are packed. But I really need a killer HP scanner…Some folks are going for the iPads this summer.. I don’t see it..I’m blogging on a dual core Dell and my new HP Elitebook is streaming to the Big screen Samsung…I don’t own a scanner..But somebody tell me why I need an iPad?
/This is exactly the same question I asked my friend years ago when he bought a 500 dollar CGA video card.. ‘Why the hell would any body ever need color on a computer?’ I really said that…
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:07:41am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
Some interesting thoughts on the terror group who threatened governors…
Guardians of the free Republics looked to Gandhi, King, and Mandela
“Terror”…? Did they do something more than tell the governors to resign?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:07:56am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
Some interesting thoughts on the terror group who threatened governors…
Guardians of the free Republics looked to Gandhi, King, and Mandela
Well, at least they’re not violent. That’s something.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:09:07am |
re: #325 MandyManners
It seems odd to me too. I haven’t been following very closely but most of this stuff was known long ago.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:09:14am |
re: #327 HoosierHoops
Geeks lined up at 5 AM to buy the IPad. In a related note, they probably did the same for “Star Wars” movies.
/
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:09:52am |
re: #327 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the advice
I’m already starting to pack cause I’m moving this summer. Pics are packed. But I really need a killer HP scanner…Some folks are going for the iPads this summer.. I don’t see it..I’m blogging on a dual core Dell and my new HP Elitebook is streaming to the Big screen Samsung…I don’t own a scanner..But somebody tell me why I need an iPad?
/This is exactly the same question I asked my friend years ago when he bought a 500 dollar CGA video card.. ‘Why the hell would any body ever need color on a computer?’ I really said that…
And 80 years ago, “Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?”
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:10:00am |
re: #327 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the advice
I’m already starting to pack cause I’m moving this summer. Pics are packed. But I really need a killer HP scanner…Some folks are going for the iPads this summer.. I don’t see it..I’m blogging on a dual core Dell and my new HP Elitebook is streaming to the Big screen Samsung…I don’t own a scanner..But somebody tell me why I need an iPad?
Because you want an iPod Touch or iPhone but your fingers are too fat?
/braces
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:10:53am |
re: #328 The Sanity Inspector
Yes, they gave an ultimatum in an attempt to intimidate the governors.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:12:18am |
re: #326 Cathypop
The jeweler near me has gotten back into working with rocks. It is his passion. He just finished one for me that looks like a fish. He named it “fishin in the rocks” Can’t remember what stone it is.
Here is the set up I got, very much used and at almost no cost to me, someone was basically trying to give it away.
It is a combination machine that will cut (rock saw), grind and polish (flat lap) and a shaper.
I use to have a large professional set up, you know, with the bank of grinding wheels and a big rock saw and rock drills, all commercial grade.
This set up is more hobby grade, but you can still do a professional job, it just takes a little longer to swap out different parts of the tools, it’s not “assembly” line like the professional stuff I had.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:12:52am |
re: #326 Cathypop
The jeweler near me has gotten back into working with rocks. It is his passion. He just finished one for me that looks like a fish. He named it “fishin in the rocks” Can’t remember what stone it is.
I have a few precious stones…When my Mom’s brother passed I got a big bag of Sun Stones….
Beautiful stones..
jegem.com
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:14:08am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:15:26am |
re: #324 Walter L. Newton
I had no idea you were into that!
My mother in laws husband just sold a very large business in Filmore.
He still has pallets of the most awesome raw stones..
I love the mountains of black volcanic glass piles up.
Most from the west desert of Utah.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:15:33am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:17:25am |
re: #342 The Sanity Inspector
Is it anything like this?
[Video]
Yes… that’s a professional grade flat lap machine… like I say above, what I got is more hobby grade…
Does the same thing, just smaller. I use to have a set up like this…
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:18:33am |
re: #328 The Sanity Inspector
“Terror”…? Did they do something more than tell the governors to resign?
I think it’s the “or be removed” part that has raised some eyebrows. Eyebrows, buttocks, and other anatomical regions have been stimulated by the ample evidence that the people in question are nuts:
“Calamity is coming for this world,” Kennedy has said on his show, adding that it would be peaceful. “We forgive all who repent for their crimes against mankind. You could also expect that many of those people will not repent, and if they are recidivists we will deal with them accordingly.
“peaceful calamity” wherein those who don’t “repent” for their “crimes against humanity” will be “dealt with accordingly.”
Yeah, that’s not crazy or anything.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:18:57am |
re: #346 Walter L. Newton
Larry may some equipment he’ll part with cheap….
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:22:51am |
re: #338 MandyManners
Resign or else.
What’s the specific threat of “else”?
From the article….
The appearance of Mr. Boustred in the mix may give some clue to the assertion by the Guardians that they had an agreement with “the military” to support their quiet coup.
This is where groups like the OthKeepers come in. The Guardians believed that groups like the Oathkeepers would use the military to oust the elected officials. As we’ve seen these guys have been arested with weapons caches including grenade launchers. It takes just one well armed lunatic to think he’s participating in a military coup to make a big mess.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:23:33am |
re: #343 reloadingisnotahobby
I had no idea you were into that!
My mother in laws husband just sold a very large business in Filmore.
He still has pallets of the most awesome raw stones..
I love the mountains of black volcanic glass piles up.
Most from the west desert of Utah.
Yep… like I said, I had to get rid of my professional machines a number of years ago, needed the money. But I held on to my rough material, opal, turquoise, slabs etc. I have enough material to start cutting again. I was just waiting for an opportunity to get some tools. Like I say, what I got is more hobby grade, hobby priced, but it will do a professional job if you know what you are doing. I know what I am doing.
This machine also turns into a rock saw, 6 1/2 blade, good for smaller slabs and smaller stones. Will also be useful for cutting my bulk meteorites into pieces that I can resell on Ebay.
I was smart, when I needed to start selling my stuff, I sold everything but the raw material. The same opal rough I was purchasing from direct from miners in Au. 10 years ago has now gone up more than 4-5 times in price. I have opal I spent pennies for, because it was a new thing for the miners to sell direct to customers through the internet, instead of going through opal brokers. But, as time goes on, they have a better idea what the market will bear, and they have adjusted their prices upward.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:24:11am |
re: #348 reloadingisnotahobby
Larry may some equipment he’ll part with cheap…
Right now, cheap for me is “almost free” or “thanks for the gift.” :)
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:25:54am |
re: #351 Walter L. Newton
I can’t believe how strong the market is for synthetic opal. I bought two pieces at a gem show for my girls as it was cheap and will hold up. Still, it’s synthetic.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:26:14am |
re: #351 Walter L. Newton
Thanks for the info on Fire Opals.. I checked it out..
You really know your Shit Walter
Regards
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:26:43am |
re: #350 Killgore Trout
This is where groups like the OathKeepers come in. The Guardians believed that groups like the Oathkeepers would use the military to oust the elected officials. As we’ve seen these guys have been arested with weapons caches including grenade launchers. It takes just one well armed lunatic to think he’s participating in a military coup to make a big mess.
And when you’re dealing with the Oathkeepers, you could be dealing with a moderate number of armed and trained lunatics. That’s the sort of situation that could lead to a disaster like the initial raid on Waco.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:26:46am |
re: #349 MandyManners
Have you looked at the site of Guardians of the free [sic] Republics?
WHAT ARE YOU, A CENSUS WORKER??!?!?!eleventy
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:26:58am |
re: #350 Killgore Trout
This is where groups like the OthKeepers come in. The Guardians believed that groups like the Oathkeepers would use the military to oust the elected officials. As we’ve seen these guys have been arested with weapons caches including grenade launchers. It takes just one well armed lunatic to think he’s participating in a military coup to make a big mess.
Certainly agree with you there, however the opposite of right paranoia are those on the left who think that a real military coup could happen and stick in this country. I detected a bit of that yesterday in some comments. That’s not quite as paranoid and bizarre as the oathkeepers crowd, but it is a light diss to our professional military who would not allow that to happen or last under any circumstance, even with the Hollywood plot device that it is…
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:27:58am |
Morning everyone.
Yeah I totally was tripping on acid. That’s the ticket :)
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:28:06am |
This gentleman, a long time employee at the White House, has passed:washingtonpost.com
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:29:21am |
re: #358 Athens Runaway
Morning everyone.
Yeah I totally was tripping on acid. That’s the ticket :)
I only trip for TOOL concerts.
/
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:29:24am |
re: #353 prairiefire
I can’t believe how strong the market is for synthetic opal. I bought two pieces at a gem show for my girls as it was cheap and will hold up. Still, it’s synthetic.
Nothing personal… gag… opal is my favorite stone, gem, period. And cutting it is like a treasure hunt. Very few pieces of raw opal just scream out “color.” You have to examine the piece, see where the color bands are, decide how much you are going to grind away to get near the bands, but not too far. And as you are grinding, you see that the color band stops, or curves away, or doesn’t have as much color as appeared at the edge and so on.
And sometimes, you have a piece of opal potch that has no color, but you cut it along one side, and inside is a wonderful band of color.
It has all the thrill (and disappointment) of treasure hunting, held in the palm of your hand.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:29:57am |
re: #354 HoosierHoops
Thanks for the info on Fire Opals.. I checked it out..
You really know your Shit Walter
Regards
Thanks.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:30:21am |
re: #356 negativ
By the way… got you info, you will see something in the mail next week.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:30:28am |
re: #359 prairiefire
This gentleman, a long time employee at the White House, has passed:[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
Sad:
Mr. Allen and his wife, Helene, were profiled in a Washington Post story in 2008 that explored the history of blacks in the White House. The couple were excited about the possibility of Barack Obama’s historic election and their opportunity to vote for him. Helene, however, died on the eve of the election, and Mr. Allen went to vote alone. The couple had been married for 65 years.
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Cathypop Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:31:16am |
re: #359 prairiefire
This gentleman, a long time employee at the White House, has passed:[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
What an amazing genteman.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:33:20am |
re: #358 Athens Runaway
Morning everyone.
Yeah I totally was tripping on acid. That’s the ticket :)
Are you better now? It’s good to see you, I know you’ve been gone a while. Please do hang around, sane people of a conservative bent are welcome here.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:34:33am |
re: #367 MandyManners
I saw some of that in some articles I read, it was on the leader’s comments or facebook page or something.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:35:43am |
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:35:47am |
re: #368 MandyManners
How often do you flush? Is it a low flow toilet?
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Cathypop Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:36:59am |
re: #371 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do I have to count the tree outside?
/
And what about litter boxes? Oh My!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:37:36am |
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:37:46am |
re: #357 Thanos
Certainly agree with you there, however the opposite of right paranoia are those on the left who think that a real military coup could happen and stick in this country. I detected a bit of that yesterday in some comments. That’s not quite as paranoid and bizarre as the oathkeepers crowd, but it is a light diss to our professional military who would not allow that to happen or last under any circumstance, even with the Hollywood plot device that it is…
One difference is that there are those on the Left who believe that a coup did take lace in this country, resulting in the Bush years. DIEBOLD!!!!
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:38:09am |
re: #374 MandyManners
Like I said it was on facebook pages of the members or something… I’m not going to go digging through that shitpile again however. Go to TPM and there are articles from the last few days that point it out.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:38:32am |
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Cathypop Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:38:51am |
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:39:42am |
re: #361 Walter L. Newton
I know. My daughter and niece were pretty little at the time and happy just to have new jewelery. We have since gave my niece a beautiful pair of fire opal earrings. I have a lovely little Edwardian pinky ring with fire opals and seed pearls.
Opals look like magic.
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Cathypop Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:39:45am |
re: #383 MandyManners
I have a few tales about toilet-training The Kid and the litter box. Don’t ask. Please.
Save those stories for when he is a teenager.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:40:11am |
re: #387 prairiefire
I know. My daughter and niece were pretty little at the time and happy just to have new jewelery. We have since gave my niece a beautiful pair of fire opal earrings. I have a lovely little Edwardian pinky ring with fire opals and seed pearls.
Opals look like magic.
It is magic.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:40:27am |
re: #373 lazardo
Headin to bed. Nighty.
Good Lord..You live on the wrong side of the world! In about 4 hrs the boys and I are going downtown to party for the final four..It’s 20 minutes away..
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:42:01am |
Tech Secrets: 21 Things ‘They’ Don’t Want You to Know.
Your ISP Is a Copyright Cop
You’re Spending Too Much on Printer Ink
The Cyberwar Is Heating Up (and Uncle Sam Is Losing)
Antivirus Software Won’t Protect You
A ‘Cheap’ Smartphone Is a Rip-Off
etc.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:42:06am |
re: #366 Dark_Falcon
Are you better now? It’s good to see you, I know you’ve been gone a while. Please do hang around, sane people of a conservative bent are welcome here.
It just annoys me at times that it seems like people’s memories of the bad-craziness of the last decade have faded. Personally I’m of the belief that the political continuum isn’t a 1-D line but a 2-D circle, and as you go too far to one side or the other, you start sounding like the opposite side.
As I pointed out last night, MoveOn running Bush=Hitler ads and leftwing protests with Bush=Hitler signs sounds like hell of a lot like stuff that we point out here all the time. It’s that wraparound crazy.
But it was pretty funny when I boredtech said that I sounded all like “nom nom nom fap fap fap”. I have to admit that was a pretty funny insult.
You guys have my complete assurance that I am not an insane conservative. :)
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Stanley Sea Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:43:19am |
re: #359 prairiefire
This gentleman, a long time employee at the White House, has passed:[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
Thank you for posting this.
First lady Nancy Reagan came looking for him one afternoon, and Mr. Allen wondered whether he or a member of his staff had done something wrong. She assured him that he had not but also told him that his services would not be needed at the upcoming state dinner for German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. Mr. Allen tensed, wondering why.
“She said, ‘You and Helene are coming to the state dinner as guests of President Reagan and myself,’ ” he recounted in the Post interview. Mr. Allen thought he was the first butler to receive an invitation to a state dinner. He and Helene — she was a beautiful dresser — looked resplendent that night. The butlers on duty seemed to pay special attention to the couple as they poured champagne for guests — champagne that Mr. Allen himself had stacked in the kitchen.
He also was invited & went to the Obama inauguration.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:46:58am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:48:05am |
re: #387 prairiefire
I know. My daughter and niece were pretty little at the time and happy just to have new jewelery. We have since gave my niece a beautiful pair of fire opal earrings. I have a lovely little Edwardian pinky ring with fire opals and seed pearls.
Opals look like magic.
One question. What color is the “fire opal?” Is is white or off white with multiple speckles of different colors or a translucent amber/orange color with no play of multi colors?
I ask because there is a terrible misuse of terms among the public in regards to opals. There is only one opal that is designated “fire opal” and that is an opal from Mexico which is a translucent amber/orange color, with no other color in it (except on rare occasions, a hue of green).
Opals that have multi colors in it, the term for those colors is “fire” but not the actual name of the stone itself.
You have white opals, black opals, matrix opals, boulder opals… all with “fire” in them, meaning “color.”
And the “fire” comes in different flavors. “Pin fire” is colors that appear to be little specks, hundreds of them, in an opal. “Broad flash” is like the color has been painted on inside the opal with a brush, large splotches of color… “harlequin” is small multi-color splotches that would remind you of the multi-color patches in a harlequin clown suit.
But “fire opals” do not have any color, and is only found in Mexico.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:48:28am |
re: #381 Thanos
re: #386 MandyManners
I happen to think we have nothing to fear from the Oathkeepers. Police, ex military and firemen. ooh scary! Given the atmosphere, we seem to need new boogiemen to fear. May as well worry about the Whigs. The Whigs are also largely ex military and Police. And if you asked them over coffee which of the infamous ten orders, they would refuse them too as any sensible person would.
Frankly, I am far more worried about gangland & cartel violence, which takes lives everyday, often attacking police directly.
I could be wrong, but IMHO there will be no revolution. There may be incidents, but we seem hyper sensitized to the politically based threats, and at the same time just skip over daily headlines of real gunfights and deaths in our cities. Huh?
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:49:57am |
re: #189 RogueOne
I add unneeded punctuation, my favorite being excessive apostrophes, expecting to drive Cato nutz but he’s let me slide, so far.
bcuz i know your doin it on purpose
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:50:20am |
re: #395 Stanley Sea
Too classy to do the talk show gossip route!!
RIP indeed!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:50:30am |
re: #387 prairiefire
I know. My daughter and niece were pretty little at the time and happy just to have new jewelery. We have since gave my niece a beautiful pair of fire opal earrings. I have a lovely little Edwardian pinky ring with fire opals and seed pearls.
Opals look like magic.
I suspect from you description, and the fact that they are earrings, you have Coober Pedy white opals with pin fire. Most white based gem quality opal comes from Coober Pedy in Au.
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:51:01am |
re: #394 Athens Runaway
It just annoys me at times that it seems like people’s memories of the bad-craziness of the last decade have faded. Personally I’m of the belief that the political continuum isn’t a 1-D line but a 2-D circle, and as you go too far to one side or the other, you start sounding like the opposite side.
As I pointed out last night, MoveOn running Bush=Hitler ads and leftwing protests with Bush=Hitler signs sounds like hell of a lot like stuff that we point out here all the time. It’s that wraparound crazy.
But it was pretty funny when I boredtech said that I sounded all like “nom nom nom fap fap fap”. I have to admit that was a pretty funny insult.
You guys have my complete assurance that I am not an insane conservative. :)
You’re not insane.
:)
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:51:36am |
re: #398 Rightwingconspirator
As a nation we have naught to fear — in individual communities where these loons exist and are in power they certainly should be fearful and get them taken out of their positions of power.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:53:16am |
re: #402 Walter L. Newton
Walter have you cut any Oregon sunstone? The one with a lot of schillerism (bright flecks of copper I think) get cabbed. The others with just good color get faceted.
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:54:04am |
re: #397 Walter L. Newton
Maybe they are black opals? The main color is a blue flash to green.
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:55:30am |
re: #404 Thanos
But, but, but…they called it “OPeration Exodus ” Don’t you get it?
Exodus = Jews=Conspiracy=Zionist take over! ///
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:55:49am |
re: #394 Athens Runaway
It just annoys me at times that it seems like people’s memories of the bad-craziness of the last decade have faded. Personally I’m of the belief that the political continuum isn’t a 1-D line but a 2-D circle, and as you go too far to one side or the other, you start sounding like the opposite side.
As I pointed out last night, MoveOn running Bush=Hitler ads and leftwing protests with Bush=Hitler signs sounds like hell of a lot like stuff that we point out here all the time. It’s that wraparound crazy.
But it was pretty funny when I boredtech said that I sounded all like “nom nom nom fap fap fap”. I have to admit that was a pretty funny insult.
You guys have my complete assurance that I am not an insane conservative. :)
I agree with you about the craziness. Once again, glad to have you back.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:56:39am |
re: #407 MandyManners
I’m worried about the Cartel’s, too.
Did you read about their coordinated attacks on the Mexican military recently?
I’ve read some things. Any useful links you’d care to provide would be welcome.
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:57:04am |
re: #406 prairiefire
This is for my antique ring.
I think you are correct about the earrings. I bought them for $100, they are set in a good amount of 14k gold. The main color is white, but luckily they have a lot of color flash.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:57:32am |
re: #398 Rightwingconspirator
re: #386 MandyManners
I happen to think we have nothing to fear from the Oathkeepers. Police, ex military and firemen. ooh scary! Given the atmosphere, we seem to need new boogiemen to fear. May as well worry about the Whigs. The Whigs are also largely ex military and Police. And if you asked them over coffee which of the infamous ten orders, they would refuse them too as any sensible person would.
Frankly, I am far more worried about gangland & cartel violence, which takes lives everyday, often attacking police directly.
I could be wrong, but IMHO there will be no revolution. There may be incidents, but we seem hyper sensitized to the politically based threats, and at the same time just skip over daily headlines of real gunfights and deaths in our cities. Huh?
Actual revolution isn’t the real fear. The fear is small bands of highly-motivated crazies wreaking havoc. Planning and funding aside, 9/11 was basically the work of just 19 guys. The Murrah building bombing was 2 guys. JFK was killed by one guy.
There have been, and always will be crazies. But right now it sure seems like the out-of-power party and its various and sundry media shills more or less pander to and encourage the craziness. Rather than taking the high ground and showing themselves to be measured, rational, deliberate thinkers, they’re ranting about tyranny and death panels. Being measured, rational, and deliberate now gets you ostracized from the GOP. The result is the non-crazy people become demoralized and the lunatics take over.
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:57:48am |
re: #399 negativ
[Link: punditkitchen.com…]
Let’s see what the tally is at the end of Obama’s first term. This fellow collected Bush = Hitler allusions, enough for a big webpage even though he quit mainting it in 2005.
I doubt any university professors or Nobel winners will be stooping to that stuff with Obama…
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:58:19am |
re: #408 pingjockey
But, but, but…they called it “OPeration Exodus ” Don’t you get it?
Exodus = Jews=Conspiracy=Zionist take over! ///
The point is that no the country doesn’t have a thing to fear but if you have one of these nutballs in your county/parish/community and a dirtbag militia like Huttaree you certainly should be fearful. Who wants a bunch of zealot paranoid old farts running around thinking they are the law in their neighborhood with .50 cals?
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gegenkritik Sat, Apr 3, 2010 8:59:47am |
Americans condemn Obama’s rudeness, reach out to Israel
See also: f2a.org
Good to see Americans, who stand with Israel.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:00:23am |
re: #404 Thanos
This what we really have to fear. Not hypothetical, not some future possibility, just deadly real.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:01:06am |
re: #406 prairiefire
Maybe they are black opals? The main color is a blue flash to green.
If they have a black matrix (base color) with any color, then yes, that’s black opal, but like I say, not “fire opal.” The color IN IT is fire. And black opals come in about 6-10 shades (depending on the charts used) and start at a light grey matrix with color to a jet black matrix with color.
Black opals are graded one three scales. The level of black, the amount of colors (more multiple colors, and lot of red are the best) and astatic appeal.
Blue and green in the middle of the scale when it comes to color. You can have black opal with only one color, two colors or multi colors.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:01:50am |
re: #405 Rightwingconspirator
Walter have you cut any Oregon sunstone? The one with a lot of schillerism (bright flecks of copper I think) get cabbed. The others with just good color get faceted.
Don’t have any. HH mentioned them the other day. I’ve know what it is, never owned any.
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:02:07am |
re: #403 Varek Raith
You’re not insane.
:)
All I can say is that my life is pretty plain
I like watchin’ the puddles gather rain
And all I can do is just pour some tea for two
and speak my point of view
But it’s not sane, It’s not sane
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:02:52am |
re: #421 MandyManners
We have our own issues here…..
MS13 etc…
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:03:24am |
re: #417 Rightwingconspirator
Sorry but crime has been around forever, we have law enforcement for that — indeed it’s way down compared to past decades. We don’t need to fear that shit if we don’t happen to live in that one bad area of town.
Around here women jog at night by themselves without fear - if you don’t live somewhere like that you probably should move.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:04:00am |
re: #412 negativ
Actual revolution isn’t the real fear. The fear is small bands of highly-motivated crazies wreaking havoc. Planning and funding aside, 9/11 was basically the work of just 19 guys. The Murrah building bombing was 2 guys. JFK was killed by one guy.
Sez you.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:04:04am |
Okay, this may or may not have been posted but I figure I could end the night on a weird note.
The good news is that someone’s gonna cover the legal costs that the court has ordered the family of a dead marine to pay the Westboro Baptist Church.
The [insert adjective news]? That someone is Bill O’Reilly.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:04:18am |
re: #418 reloadingisnotahobby
That was ballsy!
The cartels will fight anyone if they think they can win. They’ll attack Mexican forces, CHP, Border Patrol. Hell, if they thought it would gain them an advantage, they’d fire on our National Guard. They have no respect for anyone.
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:04:35am |
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:05:25am |
re: #414 Thanos
Got ya. We don’t have any of those nutbars here, at least not with a webpage, etc…like the Hutaree. You head east over into Idaho, and they’ve got some issues.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:06:57am |
re: #432 MandyManners
Anyone know just what the fees were?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:07:29am |
re: #406 prairiefire
Maybe they are black opals? The main color is a blue flash to green.
More opal info…
You also have to be careful that you are not buying a double or triple.. a double is a thin layer of opal backed with some material, such as grey/black opal potch.
Then a triple is a thin layer of opal backed by a potch and topped by a clear dome of something like quartz or even a resin.
This is a method to make gem quality opal go further, using thin slices of it and building it up with material.
There is nothing wrong with this if it is described as a double or triple and priced accordingly.
But remember, it’s not pure opal.
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lazardo Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:08:04am |
re: #433 reloadingisnotahobby
Snyder’s reward was reduced and then overturned on appeal, with a decision upholding the Westboro group’s right to free speech. Additionally, a 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals judge last week ordered Snyder to pay $16,510.80 of the Westboro Baptist Church’s almost $100,000 in legal fees.
/kay, actually heading to bed.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:08:13am |
re: #428 MandyManners
The cartels are our issue, too. The violence and its effects don’t magically stop at the border.
When you have the world’s biggest drug market extending vertically through the population, from stockbrokers and lawyers and billionaires at their private parties to the crackhead on the corner, and you criminalize the product in an attempt to replicate the glowing success that was Prohibition, you’re gonna get cartels.
Viz. Joseph P. Kennedy and the origins of his family’s fortune.
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prairiefire Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:08:40am |
re: #436 Walter L. Newton
Sort of like a veneer. Would you be able to tell by looking at the side of the stone with a magnifier?
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Kruk Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:08:51am |
re: #426 lazardo
Okay, this may or may not have been posted but I figure I could end the night on a weird note.
The good news is that someone’s gonna cover the legal costs that the court has ordered the family of a dead marine to pay the Westboro Baptist Church.
The [insert adjective news]? That someone is Bill O’Reilly.
Good for him. While I understand the legal principles involved, making the family pay legal costs is just twisting the knife in those who’ve suffered enough.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:10:03am |
re: #407 MandyManners
Yes, I have extensively. I used to travel to Guadalajara Mexico for work. Not now. All this worry about angry right wingers is now utterly disproportionate to the real violence happening daily. This serves media ratings rabbits quite well. It serves the Democrats really, really well. Yes we may have some more incidents. Like the IRS building plane crash. We will also see more bull. Like the hung census worker that was as suicide.
I lived in LA all my life. Used to go to work every day at a gold refinery near La Brea and Jefferson. Crack house right across the street. Gangland violence has killed and injured more people than every domestic violence incident combined, arguably tenfold or more. Yet by the media focus, we would think the opposite was the case.
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:11:59am |
I’m somewhat amused. Why are pirates attacking warships in glorified row boats???
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Kruk Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:12:35am |
re: #444 Varek Raith
I’m somewhat amused. Why are pirates attacking warships in glorified row boats???
A death wish?
| 446 |
Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:13:19am |
I really hope people aren’t trying to imply that we need militia groups like Hutarree etc. because they have narco terrorists in MX… That’s kinda ridiculously paranoid.
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:14:21am |
re: #444 Varek Raith
It’s not ther fault. They never got enough vitamin A or E and can’t afford glasses. Somalia needs Health Care Reform so we won’t have this sort of thing happening any more.//
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:14:52am |
re: #443 Rightwingconspirator
Gangland violence has killed and injured more people than every domestic violence incident combined, arguably tenfold or more. Yet by the media focus, we would think the opposite was the case.
That’s bullshit, got a link?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:16:43am |
re: #439 prairiefire
Sort of like a veneer. Would you be able to tell by looking at the side of the stone with a magnifier?
If you can see the whole stone, yes, it will evidently have layers where it has been put together.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:17:15am |
re: #444 Varek Raith
Arguably the most foolish acts of intoxication ever. Hah. Whats next, a hanglider attack on a Carrier Battle Group?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:18:21am |
re: #443 Rightwingconspirator
Yes, I have extensively. I used to travel to Guadalajara Mexico for work. Not now. All this worry about angry right wingers is now utterly disproportionate to the real violence happening daily. This serves media ratings rabbits quite well. It serves the Democrats really, really well. Yes we may have some more incidents. Like the IRS building plane crash. We will also see more bull. Like the hung census worker that was as suicide.
I lived in LA all my life. Used to go to work every day at a gold refinery near La Brea and Jefferson. Crack house right across the street. Gangland violence has killed and injured more people than every domestic violence incident combined, arguably tenfold or more. Yet by the media focus, we would think the opposite was the case.
The media don’t like stories about drug cartels, they never have. First, such stories are dangerous. A reporter who finds out something the cartels were trying to hide is liable to be killed. Cartels make militia types seem sedate and restrained by comparison. Second, because cartels are international, fighting them is a long process often fought in places reporters don’t want to travel to. Third and last, the drug demand in the US makes simple solutions to the problems posed by drug cartels impossible.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:18:26am |
re: #452 Rightwingconspirator
Arguably the most foolish acts of intoxication ever. Hah. Whats next, a hanglider attack on a Carrier Battle Group?
Why did you ask me about the sunstone. Do you have some rough to sell. I wouldn’t mind a small sample piece to see how it works on the lap. You have something small for sale?
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:18:42am |
For the relatively large group of people here who still don’t get it:
The difference between the CodePinkos and the rest of the “hate Bush” crowd and today’s right-wing crazeepants is that the former didn’t stockpile guns and plan to murder police officers and then attack their funerals to start a Randian-Paulian revolution.
But for those of you who still can’t see the difference, nothing I say will matter.
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:19:07am |
re: #450 Thanos
Huh? Are you saying more people have been killed by McVay types than drug dealing gangsters?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:19:37am |
re: #444 Varek Raith
I’m somewhat amused. Why are pirates attacking warships in glorified row boats???
It makes no sense. I don’t even have a theory.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:21:31am |
re: #450 Thanos
On the 30 year or so total of gangland deaths vs domestic violence? Tell ya what, I’ll chase down gang killings, and you find or work up a total of domestic terror deaths, including of course Oklahoma city.
Fair enough? I’m starting here.
Hint-Do we have domestic terror attacks each weekend in most major cities? We do have gang violence at that rate.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:21:40am |
re: #452 Rightwingconspirator
Arguably the most foolish acts of intoxication ever. Hah. Whats next, a hanglider attack on a Carrier Battle Group?
Why isn’t there Black water type escort services in the Gulf?
If I had a gazillion gallon oil tanker I’d have some bad ass escorts…They would f you up…It’s that simple..Bye bye Pirates
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:22:40am |
re: #460 HoosierHoops
Why isn’t there Black water type escort services in the Gulf?
If I had a gazillion gallon oil tanker I’d have some bad ass escorts…They would f you up…It’s that simple..Bye bye Pirates
Need more Q-ships…
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:22:54am |
re: #457 Dark_Falcon
The fools didn’t know it was a warship. Only explanation. 1) the ship could have had deceptive lighting rigged to appear like a merchantman to lure the pirates in. 2) The pirates were too dumb to realize a ship with just bow/stern/masthead/prt/stbd running lights is a freakin’ warship. We never run around with a bunch of lights showing.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:22:56am |
re: #457 Dark_Falcon
It makes no sense. I don’t even have a theory.
Human error. The “cover of darkness” is a two-edged thing.
| 464 |
Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:23:28am |
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:24:38am |
re: #464 Thanos
You are deliberately misreading doemstic. Not spousal or boyfriend. Doestic as in homegrown terrorists!
| 466 |
Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:24:40am |
re: #459 Rightwingconspirator
Please back up your claim that gangland killings are more prevalent than murders due to domestic violence.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:25:03am |
re: #461 Varek Raith
Need more Q-ships…
It would be easy to tuck a Marine SuperCobra among some deck containers.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:25:16am |
re: #460 HoosierHoops
International law. But BRB, I’m pulling up gang vs domestic terror stats to put to rest a challenge to my assertion above.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:25:50am |
re: #459 Rightwingconspirator
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:25:52am |
re: #424 Thanos
Sorry but crime has been around forever, we have law enforcement for that — indeed it’s way down compared to past decades. We don’t need to fear that shit if we don’t happen to live in that one bad area of town.
Around here women jog at night by themselves without fear - if you don’t live somewhere like that you probably should move.
Would be a great solution if everyone could afford to leave dangerous situations and were free to do so. Reference..
Police ramped up their investigation Thursday into the case of a 7-year-old girl who they say was gang-raped by a group of men while her 15-year-old stepsister watched and got paid for it.Police conducted a pre-dawn raid at the troubled public housing complex, a high-rise apartment building so dangerous that officers are hired as security guards at night.
Part of the problem has been that people are afraid to testify against their neighbors.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:26:06am |
re: #462 pingjockey
The fools didn’t know it was a warship. Only explanation. 1) the ship could have had deceptive lighting rigged to appear like a merchantman to lure the pirates in. 2) The pirates were too dumb to realize a ship with just bow/stern/masthead/prt/stbd running lights is a freakin’ warship. We never run around with a bunch of lights showing.
re: #463 Decatur Deb
Human error. The “cover of darkness” is a two-edged thing.
Good points. Pirates have mistaken a French warship like that before. It could easily have happened again.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:26:19am |
re: #461 Varek Raith
Need more Q-ships…
Really..I’ll bet PT boats could escort ships..
We need to do a startup Blackwater escort services for the gulf..
Hire some retired marines and Sailors on some gun boats…For a million dollars a year they would fuck Pirates up…
| 473 |
pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:27:58am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
Count me in! I’m ready to go pirate swatting.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:28:01am |
re: #470 Escaped Hillbilly
In the United States, murders rates have been higher and have fluctuated. They rose during the nineteenth century, dropped in the years following World War II, before rising again. The rate reached eleven per 100,000 in 1991 before falling to five per 100,000 in present times
We live in a safer country today than the one I grew up in, believe it or not. I refuse to live in a “fearcoon” due to rightwing politics as I age. I’m not going to let paranoia alter my lifestyle.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:28:02am |
re: #469 Thanos
I meant domestic terror violence, as in militias, Oathkeepers and such. Domestic violence in families is another topic.
| 476 |
Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:29:16am |
I’d happily pay for a Mark 48 for use against a pirate skiff.
:evilgrin:
| 478 |
Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:29:34am |
re: #475 Rightwingconspirator
Well then next time say what you mean.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:30:17am |
re: #477 MandyManners
None - what rightwingers are stuffing strawmen in other people’s mouths?
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:30:24am |
re: #426 lazardo
Okay, this may or may not have been posted but I figure I could end the night on a weird note.
The good news is that someone’s gonna cover the legal costs that the court has ordered the family of a dead marine to pay the Westboro Baptist Church.
The [insert adjective news]? That someone is Bill O’Reilly.
What’s weird is if Bill Maher or Katha Pollitt would pay it.
| 482 |
pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:30:33am |
re: #476 Varek Raith
overkill to the max. a .50 cal or 25mm chain gun will settle most of the pirates hash with no problem.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:31:18am |
re: #460 HoosierHoops
Why isn’t there Black water type escort services in the Gulf?
If I had a gazillion gallon oil tanker I’d have some bad ass escorts…They would f you up…It’s that simple..Bye bye Pirates
The answer, like always, is money.
They weigh the cost of paying for escorts 100% of the time vs. the cost of being successfully attacked by pirates ~1% of the time.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:31:27am |
re: #380 The Sanity Inspector
One difference is that there are those on the Left who believe that a coup did take lace in this country, resulting in the Bush years. DIEBOLD!!!
Eh, there is a big difference between electioneering/election theft (which are as old as the republic - see the results of the election of 1876) and a real coup. Even if you do think Diebold threw the results in Ohio, that still doesn’t rise to the level of a coup.
These nutcases are on a different plane of existence, though.
William
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:31:32am |
re: #482 pingjockey
overkill to the max. a .50 cal or 25mm chain gun will settle most of the pirates hash with no problem.
I love overkill. I was gonna go for a nuclear tipped torpedo but, I thought that was a tad overboard.
:)
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:31:39am |
re: #474 Thanos
I don’t argue that point. And good for you for seeking a better situation for yourself. But more or less crime overall means nothing if you are a child or elderly fixed income individual living in such environment. ANY such crime needs to be taken seriously, dealt with swiftly and finally. The victims should not be told they ought to run away if they do not wish to be victims. That was my only addition.
| 489 |
pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:32:52am |
re: #485 Varek Raith
Hehe. You shoot off one of those, you have to file an Environmental Impact Statement.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:33:02am |
re: #478 Thanos
When I encouraged you to include Oklahoma city… Never mind. Okay I thought we had the context clear, I apologize for that.
Are we in agreement that gangland violence is far more damaging in real incidents, woundings and deaths that domestic terror violence?
Of course my point we are putting too much worry into possible threats (Oathkeeprs) and not enough into real existing violence like gangs and (rightly said) domestic family violence is helped along here.
| 491 |
Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:34:11am |
More people die falling down stairs than by gangland violence, more people die driving cars than by gangland violence, more people die from drinking than due to gangland violence more people die due to spousal abuse than due to gangland violence.
Now right wing militias are still nutballs, are still dangerous to particular regions, and are not something we should tolerate when they start making actual plans like the Hutaree were.
| 492 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:34:48am |
re: #473 pingjockey
Count me in! I’m ready to go pirate swatting.
You pay retired Marines and Navy officers a million dollars a year to escort ships in the gulf.. In one year nobody will even try to hijack a ship…
I see a start up happening
| 493 |
William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:36:15am |
re: #490 Rightwingconspirator
Unfortunately though, it only takes one or two Oathbreakers to go off the deepend with a truck load of fertilizer to out do the body count of all the gang bangers last year.
William
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:36:47am |
re: #492 HoosierHoops
You pay retired Marines and Navy officers a million dollars a year to escort ships in the gulf.. In one year nobody will even try to hijack a ship…
I see a start up happening
Hmm, we’ll need a ship…
Biggest BB evah.
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:36:50am |
re: #492 HoosierHoops
You guys realize their are already security companies doing this, right? Also, lots of nonlethal defensive weapons have been deployed recently. I would like to see a stronger military/law enforcement contingent there. But $. It’s always $.
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:37:31am |
re: #495 Escaped Hillbilly
There, not their. I will write it 50 times on the board.
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:37:51am |
re: #492 HoosierHoops
Need one supply ship and a bunch of PT type boats and you could clean out the pirates. We have a class of patrol boats named for winds that would work nicely.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:38:39am |
re: #495 Escaped Hillbilly
You guys realize their are already security companies doing this, right? Also, lots of nonlethal defensive weapons have been deployed recently. I would like to see a stronger military/law enforcement contingent there. But $. It’s always $.
Well..I didn’t know that.. Who ever the contractors are… They really suck…
| 500 |
Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:39:10am |
re: #498 MandyManners
My hand’s gonna be soar. sore. Darn, another 50!
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:39:29am |
People forget to use the right “their” when they’re not all there.
We all need more coffee.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:40:49am |
re: #494 Varek Raith
Hmm, we’ll need a ship…
Biggest BB evah.
Give me your credit card and we’ll fill ‘er up.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:41:00am |
re: #494 Varek Raith
Hmm, we’ll need a ship…
Biggest BB evah.
Yeah, and its AA sucked. The 5-inch guns were good, but they had poor direction systems. The IJN’s 25mm AA gun just plain stunk. Low rate of fire, excessive vibration, plus poor stopping power equals EPIC FAIL.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:41:01am |
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:41:06am |
re: #491 Thanos
Why would you include accidents in a discussion on violence?
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:42:02am |
re: #505 Dark_Falcon
Yeah, and its AA sucked. The 5-inch guns were good, but they had poor direction systems. The IJN’s 25mm AA gun just plain stunk. Low rate of fire, excessive vibration, plus poor stopping power equals EPIC FAIL.
Weren’t the Nazi’s planning a 130,000lb + monster of a ship?
| 509 |
Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:43:33am |
re: #507 Rightwingconspirator
We are talking about comparative dangers, you seem overly concerned with gangs, and in using that as a foil to deflect attention from the right wing christian dirtbag militia that is the biggest news this day.
| 510 |
pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:43:37am |
re: #508 Varek Raith
Watch the damn History Channel and they were planning all kinds of mad stuff. It’s a good thing that mad Austrian Corporal didn’t wait for a couple of years before starting the war.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:45:50am |
re: #510 pingjockey
Watch the damn History Channel and they were planning all kinds of mad stuff. It’s a good thing that mad Austrian Corporal didn’t wait for a couple of years before starting the war.
Like wood planes.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:46:11am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:46:25am |
re: #512 MandyManners
Spring Break: Day 4.
Have you ever heard a pogo-stick in action for 10 minutes straight?
I’d go crazy.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:46:46am |
re: #512 MandyManners
Spring Break: Day 4.
Have you ever heard a pogo-stick in action for 10 minutes straight?
Not while I’m on it. No cup holder.
/
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:46:58am |
re: #509 Thanos
I have this crazy idea that the news should reflect the actual damage done, rather than pandering to the heat of the moment. If the Crips and Bloods were militias you would have a point. MS13 may have crossed the line but they are Honduran as I recall.
| 517 |
Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:47:05am |
re: #512 MandyManners
Spring Break: Day 4.
Have you ever heard a pogo-stick in action for 10 minutes straight?
If only that energy could be harnessed for the good of mankind.
| 518 |
Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:47:07am |
re: #513 Decatur Deb
This
[Link: www.combinedfleet.com…]
That’s crazy. Could they even have built and maintained such a thing?
| 519 |
pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:47:28am |
re: #509 Thanos
Here in eastern WA I am more concerned with the gang bangers thab the militia! I see gang bangers everyday, and see the results of their “work”. AFAIK there isn’t any militia nutbars here, and if there is they are being very fucking quiet about it, as in not a peep. 4 people were shot to death in Yakima last week. For a major urban area, I guess that would be an acceptable homicide rate. Not over here, cities average less that 60,000 residents. Homicides are a huge deal.
| 521 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:49:24am |
re: #508 Varek Raith
Weren’t the Nazi’s planning a 130,000lb + monster of a ship?
Yeah. That plan crashed about the time they ran out of funds for turning Berlin into the New Rome.
Augustine, the first emperor of Rome, could justly say that he found Rome built of brick and left it made of marble.
Hitler found Berlin nicely clad in marble and reduced it to rubble.
| 522 |
subsailor68 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:49:30am |
re: #508 Varek Raith
Weren’t the Nazi’s planning a 130,000lb + monster of a ship?
Hi Varek! Or it may have been this one:
This was an aircraft carrier, but never quite got there - battle-wise.
| 523 |
Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:49:55am |
re: #518 Varek Raith
That’s crazy. Could they even have built and maintained such a thing?
Some speculation on it:
aboutfacts.net
| 527 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:51:41am |
re: #512 MandyManners
Spring Break: Day 4.
Have you ever heard a pogo-stick in action for 10 minutes straight?
Only when I was beating a kid over the head with it.
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:52:01am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:52:17am |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:52:21am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:52:56am |
re: #529 Escaped Hillbilly
How was the trip? Any souvenirs?
” Mandy went crazy and all I got was this stupid shirt.”
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subsailor68 Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:53:07am |
Off to do chores. Have a great weekend everyone!
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:54:18am |
re: #528 MandyManners
Yah. My 10 yr old is up at my parents. More stuff to do. The neighbors have pygmy goats, chickens, llamas, 3 dogs, So he goes and visits the ‘zoo’.
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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:54:26am |
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:55:15am |
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:58:09am |
re: #452 Rightwingconspirator
Arguably the most foolish acts of intoxication ever. Hah. Whats next, a hanglider attack on a Carrier Battle Group?
They have an inflated idea of their own capabilities.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:58:12am |
re: #538 pingjockey
Yah. My 10 yr old is up at my parents. More stuff to do. The neighbors have pygmy goats, chickens, llamas, 3 dogs, So he goes and visits the ‘zoo’.
Do they let him chop the heads off the chickens? Good learning experience. Meat comes from animals.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 9:58:36am |
re: #519 pingjockey
Actually there are militia groups in Yakima, but they are pretty tame compared to other places. I don’t worry about crime, gangs, or being attacked unless I am a gang member and driving down Troost st in KC here… I’m betting the situation is similar in Yakima.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:01:16am |
re: #547 Cato the Elder
Do they let him chop the heads off the chickens? Good learning experience. Meat comes from animals.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:02:00am |
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:03:32am |
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:05:30am |
re: #547 Cato the Elder
Do they let him chop the heads off the chickens? Good learning experience. Meat comes from animals.
Yeah, nothing builds character like kids’ day at the abbatoir.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:05:46am |
re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]
If it’s on my plate, it better have had parents!! Work beckons. See ya’ll tonight.
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:06:25am |
re: #551 Cato the Elder
Clone me a ribeye!
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Escaped Hillbilly Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:06:33am |
I have to go out for food. My son’s driving down for a visit tomorrow! Don’t solve all the world’s problems before I get back.
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Randall Gross Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:06:44am |
re: #516 Rightwingconspirator
But your contention is false, there are stories about the gangland violence every day in lots of papers. The Militia movement is on the rise, and is therefor more newsworthy. Gangs have been around since hallelujah and their violence and memberships are trending down now… they are not big news anymore, and their danger to the average Joe is exaggerated if anything, see my note above about Troost st in KC, and how gangbangers are dangerous mostly to other gangbangers…
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jaunte Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:09:15am |
re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]
Reminds me of a science fiction novel:
Chicken Little, a huge mass of cultured chicken breast, was kept alive by algae skimmed by nearly-slave labor from multistory towers of ponds surrounded by mirrors to focus the sunlight onto the ponds.
technovelgy.com
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:10:25am |
re: #548 Thanos
Wenatchee area where I am has a couple of places that aren’t good but not as bad as Yakima….yet. In KC/SD/LA, major urban areas the gangs are a huge fucking problem and have been for years. Just be careful!
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:10:51am |
re: #559 jaunte
Chicken….the “Undead Meat”….Eeew!
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The Sanity Inspector Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:11:47am |
Lunch, then earning my keep. Enjoy the pleasant weather, if the weather is pleasant where you are.
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:12:11am |
re: #547 Cato the Elder
Not yet! Actaully these are laying hens, not fryers. I can remember my granma wringing chickens necks when I was a kid, and I didn’t think anything about it.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:12:21am |
re: #554 Spare O’Lake
Yeah, nothing builds character like kids’ day at the abbatoir.
Nothing builds lack of character and denial of reality like pretending chicken grows in supermarket coolers and the rabbit in your stew is not really the Easter Bunny.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:14:00am |
re: #557 Escaped Hillbilly
I have to go out for food. My son’s driving down for a visit tomorrow! Don’t solve all the world’s problems before I get back.
Too late.
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pingjockey Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:14:10am |
re: #565 Cato the Elder
My econut cousin thinks food at the store…comes from the store. Our granpa was an apple farmer for cryin’ out loud!
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:18:40am |
re: #558 Thanos
If your neighborhood was Compton you might have a different conclusion.
I have had my say, and some work beckons in the studio.
My last word on this today are the following links, we can all take from the real numbers what we may. Deaths from militias or Oathkeepers is at or very near zero.
One more good source for comparisons sake.
libraryindex.com
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:20:33am |
re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]
“It tastes like…pure despair.”
Lead character in Better Off Ted, describing the synthetic meat created by his lab.
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:22:43am |
re: #565 Cato the Elder
Nothing builds lack of character and denial of reality like pretending chicken grows in supermarket coolers and the rabbit in your stew is not really the Easter Bunny.
I’ve advocated here before that everyone ought to kill something and eat it at least once in their lives, and that it ought to be something other than a fish - something with feathers or fur. As you say, it builds character knowing where your food came from, and that it died feeding you.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:24:15am |
re: #573 MandyManners
…And here we thought that was just back there in your head!
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:24:27am |
re: #575 SixDegrees
I’ve advocated here before that everyone ought to kill something and eat it at least once in their lives, and that it ought to be something other than a fish - something with feathers or fur. As you say, it builds character knowing where your food came from, and that it died feeding you.
And if the experience turns you into a fat vegetarian bastard, so much the better.
Me, I’m just a fat bastard.
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McSpiff Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:24:38am |
re: #576 MandyManners
The second entry was something from “solidmujahid” but my ISP won’t let me see it. The same way it won’t let me access “stormfront”. Mean ISP.
Your ISP filters the sites you can access?
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:28:40am |
re: #565 Cato the Elder
Nothing builds lack of character and denial of reality like pretending chicken grows in supermarket coolers and the rabbit in your stew is not really the Easter Bunny.
I ATE THE FUCKING EASTER BUNNY!
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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:29:30am |
re: #454 Walter L. Newton
I have some friends that have a mine site. I was curious if you had tried any. Gotta go… BBL
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:29:31am |
I just went and swapped cars with the wife……
I have NO IDEA why her car will…out of blue ,overheat!
If it was covered for replacement value I’d total it!
This is the 5th time I’ve had issues with it and the dealership say’s
there’s nothing wrong!
Out to garage to pull the engine………/
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Cato the Elder Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:32:25am |
re: #584 reloadingisnotahobby
I just went and swapped cars with the wife…
I have NO IDEA why her car will…out of blue ,overheat!
If it was covered for replacement value I’d total it!
This is the 5th time I’ve had issues with it and the dealership say’s
there’s nothing wrong!
Out to garage to pull the engine…/
Maybe it’s an excitable wingnut car? ;^)
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:36:43am |
re: #575 SixDegrees
I’ve advocated here before that everyone ought to kill something and eat it at least once in their lives, and that it ought to be something other than a fish - something with feathers or fur. As you say, it builds character knowing where your food came from, and that it died feeding you.
That is all fine and dandy, but 10 minutes in the slaughterhouse as an observer would be a much more realistic lesson that a hunting trip.
NTTAWW a hunting trip.
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SixDegrees Sat, Apr 3, 2010 10:43:20am |
re: #587 Spare O’Lake
That is all fine and dandy, but 10 minutes in the slaughterhouse as an observer would be a much more realistic lesson that a hunting trip.
NTTAWW a hunting trip.
It’s hard to find a slaughterhouse that will let you inside these days. When Michael Pollan was writing The Omnivore’s Dilemma, every single facility he contacted to arrange a tour turned him down, citing “homeland security” issues as the reason.
He had to rely on stories relayed by retired workers at such places. Which were about what you would expect.
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