This Monday’s insanity break is a terrific animated short film titled “The Cat Piano” by The People’s Republic of Animation, featuring a voice-over narration by Nick Cave.
Yes, it’s the dreaded Katzenklavier.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:54:48pm |
Reminds me of Arthur Ewing and his Musical Mice
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 1:55:49pm |
"I longed to be the microphone she cradled in her breasts"...
Oh my.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:00:10pm |
Very well done all around. Really worth watching if you haven't seen it yet.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:03:12pm |
Cloture vote starting now on Financial Reform:
[Link: www.c-span.com...]
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:05:26pm |
San Francisco has called for a boycott of Arizona
SAN FRANCISCO—San Francisco city officials are calling for a boycott of Arizona and businesses based there to protest that state's strict new immigration law.The city attorney, Dennis Herrera, offered on Monday to help with any challenges to the law. He says his teams will start determining which contracts between the city and county of San Francisco and Arizona could be severed without penalty.
Herrera does not know how many businesses this could affect.
Several city supervisors also promise to introduce a resolution calling for a citywide boycott of Arizona.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:05:49pm |
Holy crap, it's Cartman's America!
M.I.A. - Born Free (music video)
NSFW: Brief nudity, language, graphic violence
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:07:17pm |
Cute story. I think there's a market for bringing cartoons back for adults and teens.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:07:48pm |
Graham seems to have been thrown into a tizzy - but in reality by what I'm sure I don't know.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:08:43pm |
re: #10 Spare O'Lake
Graham seems to have been thrown into a tizzy - but in reality by what I'm sure I don't know.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
He's such a drama queen.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:09:06pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
Agree. I think there is a market for intelligent, high quality animation.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:09:11pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
Cute story. I think there's a market for bringing cartoons back for adults and teens.
I recommend "The Venture Brothers" highly. "Metalocalypse" as well.
And I agree, more cartoons for adults.
On that note, y'all have a good night!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:09:12pm |
Pajamas Media: Southern Poverty Law Center’s ‘Enemies List’ a Fantasy
The Southern Poverty Law Center's new list of scary "Patriots" connects people as various as Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and Glenn Beck into a vast conspiracy. Robert Stacy "the Other" McCain tries — and fails — to make sense of it all.
Fail indeed.
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:09:58pm |
I saw the title on the other thread and my brain read Piano Cat.
Wondered who Piano Cat was playing out now....
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:10:15pm |
Justin's Dad: "Don't ask for my opinion then. I said congrats on the car, just saying nobody's panties are getting wet from a fucking Honda Accord."
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:10:31pm |
Nick cave! One of the best shows I have ever seen
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:11:05pm |
re: #13 MrSilverDragon
I recommend "The Venture Brothers" highly. "Metalocalypse" as well.
Go Team Venture!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:11:11pm |
re: #9 Killgore Trout
Cute story. I think there's a market for bringing cartoons back for adults and teens.
They're already here :D
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:11:27pm |
re: #12 freetoken
With computer animation being so cheap these days I'm sure some indy filmmakers out there are working on stuff. Hollywood can't even produce live action films targeting an adult audience anymore. Everything seems aimed at kids.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:14:10pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:14:37pm |
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:14:53pm |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
With computer animation being so cheap these days I'm sure some indy filmmakers out there are working on stuff. Hollywood can't even produce live action films targeting an adult audience anymore. Everything seems aimed at kids.
Or they seem dedicated to recycling the same old garbage using whatever new stars are big at the time.
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:16:19pm |
re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth
Sometimes extreme measures must be taken to stop the spread of Gingervitis.
/
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Liberal Classic Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:17:23pm |
I'm reminded of the organ played by the Grand Turk in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. ^^
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:17:25pm |
And don't even get me started on some 2 bit hack rewriting classic stories and movies and marketing it as "A brave new vision."
Paul Verhoeven, I'm talking about you.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:18:42pm |
Good afternoon Lizards..
Don't you just hate rhetorical questions?
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:18:55pm |
re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And don't even get me started on some 2 bit hack rewriting classic stories and movies and marketing it as "A brave new vision."
Paul Verhoeven, I'm talking about you.
What was Showgirls a brave new vision of?
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:19:04pm |
re: #19 WindUpBird
Most of the good stuff right now is for stoners tho'.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:20:20pm |
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:21:27pm |
re: #30 windsagio
Actually, to go further, the best show currently on TV is 'animation for adults'.
And its not the #@&$$ Simpsons either :P
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:22:50pm |
re: #24 ArchangelMichael
That's what Fascism and Tyranny looks like. Not this crap about make believe "Deth Panils", or not liking the polices of a duly elected, by the people, President.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:23:33pm |
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:24:09pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
I'm trying to make sense of this head long rush into madness that the very closed to any outside input right-wing machine (blogs + ClearChannel + Fox) seems to be aching for.
I can only surmise that they are feeling highly frustrated that they have failed to stop President Obama in his major agendas. First it was the Stimulus bill. Then it was Health Care. Now with financial reform polling very well with the public, it looks like Obama can score another victory before the 2010 elections.
Yesterday talking to an acquaintance who was spouting the usual RW talking points (over Democrats, the health bill, etc.) it felt so distant - here was a guy with little reason (as far as I could gather from what I know of his personal life), any reason, to pick up those memes - but he has. However, I noted that in general he has an axe to grind with about anyone. And therein lay a clue.
Ponder the thought that deep down we communicate with each other through mostly non-verbal means. Unhappiness is catching - we can affect those around us emotionally - positively and negatively. Also ponder that repetition is indeed an important learning method - simply repeating actions, or listening to the same thing over and over, creates deep inside our mind images that are connected to emotions.
I propose that the unbroken repetition of the themes of loss, victimhood, doom, and hate that has been building in the right wing machine over many years has crossed a threshold.
Now, because we are a very large and diverse nation I do not believe we will go the way of certain notorious nations in history, as some project. Yet I do think we are purging something out of our collective (heh...), and it is just something we have to go through. Not that we should encourage it, and we should confront hate wherever we find it, but still the changes are necessary.
I've been thinking about this more and more as I've been dealing with a few creationists lately. The change in mindset is so large that they psyche rejects it - too scary, too fearful. Dealing with reality is difficult for many of us, in the best of times.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:24:37pm |
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:25:01pm |
re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth
That's what Fascism and Tyranny looks like. Not this crap about make believe "Deth Panils", or not liking the polices of a duly elected, by the people, President.
Perfect illustration of what I said downstairs. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:25:15pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
Pajamas Media: Southern Poverty Law Center’s ‘Enemies List’ a Fantasy
The Southern Poverty Law Center's new list of scary "Patriots" connects people as various as Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and Glenn Beck into a vast conspiracy. Robert Stacy "the Other" McCain tries — and fails — to make sense of it all.
Fail indeed.
Gee, now why in the world would Robert Stacy McCain have an interest in delegitimizing the Southern Poverty Law Center? Could it possibly be related to the fact that the SPLC has exposed McCain as a white supremacist in numerous articles?
It's pretty sickening to see Pajamas Media publishing the work of this vile creep.
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:26:00pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'll take Gina Gershon instead.
The only reason I ever sat through that train-wreck, other than morbid curiosity, was Gina Gershon.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:26:15pm |
The Dredge Report: Gleanings from the Fever Swamp
Last week, a couple of back-benchers in the Illinois asked the governor to send the National Guard to Chicago to help the cops. Paulian black helicopterists have now morphed this much-ignored request into this:
with the inevitable Freeper hysteria not far behind:
"It’s a possible stepping stone for the same tactic on a far larger scale as we approach the November elections."
"I can see where this is going. As the weather warms, the locals attack the troops, the troops defend themselves, some locals get hurt. And then the Mesiah blames the troops and replaces them with his private army."
(Typical federal foot-dragging and incompetence. The hot season is only a few weeks away and Obama hasn't even started on getting his army trained and equipped. How can you run a dictatorship like that?)
"This is the 1st step. Chicago, Detroit, DC crime is no worse today than last year. Rats know what Nov will bring. The only way to stop the Conservative tsunami is martial law."
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:27:06pm |
re: #38 Charles
Gee, now why in the world would Robert Stacy McCain have an interest in delegitimizing the Southern Poverty Law Center? Could it possibly be related to the fact that the SPLC has exposed McCain as a white supremacist in numerous articles?
It's pretty sickening to see Pajamas Media publishing the work of this vile creep.
Seems to me that RSM failing to understand something is par for the course, him being a brain addled twat of a man.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:29:22pm |
"This is the 1st step. Chicago, Detroit, DC crime is no worse today than last year. Rats know what Nov will bring. The only way to stop the Conservative tsunami is martial law."
Say, wasn't Bush supposed to do that in '08? Why can't the American people elect a truly proactive dictator?
/
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:30:00pm |
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:30:07pm |
re: #39 ArchangelMichael
The only reason I ever sat through that train-wreck, other than morbid curiosity, was Gina Gershon.
I started watching it because of the "Saved by the Bell" girl, I kept watching it because of Gina. Then I realized I could just get the good bits off the internet. It let me cut 123 minutes off the 128 minutes of run time.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:31:17pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'll take Gina Gershon instead.
Her too. I'm like a Pokemon Master, gotta catch 'em all!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:32:21pm |
re: #35 freetoken
Good points.
The change in mindset is so large that they psyche rejects it - too scary, too fearful. Dealing with reality is difficult for many of us, in the best of times.
I think that explains a lot of what's going on with the right. The conspiracies are a crutch to explain away things they don't want to admit. They are regressing to anything that feels familiar as a comfort. Even though world wide communism isn't a threat anymore they accept the Birch society conspiracies and pretend that they are fighting communism because it feels familiar to them.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:34:16pm |
re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth
WOW! ODS in it's full glory!
Its all part of the plan with the final plan being a police state with Hussein having total control. This will be in effect by Nov.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:34:18pm |
re: #38 Charles
It's pretty sickening to see Pajamas Media publishing the work of this vile creep.
It's published over at Hot Air too. RSM has found a home on the right these days. Originally I thought they only let RSM publish at Hot Air because of Michelle Malkin but he's still welcome after she's gone.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:35:05pm |
re: #49 Floral Giraffe
I love how mention of his middle name is a clear marker, like a herpes sore.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:35:47pm |
re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth
Say, wasn't Bush supposed to do that in '08? Why can't the American people elect a truly proactive dictator?
/
Well, you see, no one can stay focused long enough to stay on them. One group of people was hysterical when it was Bush, but now they've lost interest, and now a new group is hysterical...
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:36:32pm |
re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I started watching it because of the "Saved by the Bell" girl, I kept watching it because of Gina. Then I realized I could just get the good bits off the internet. It let me cut 123 minutes off the 128 minutes of run time.
The only Saved by the Bell girl I was particularly interested in at the time was Tiffani-Amber Thiessen. Apparently, unlike Elizabeth Berkeley, she didn't need to star in one of the worst movies ever made to have her career go pretty much nowhere. Haven't seen her anywhere since Fastlane.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:36:48pm |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
Good points.
I think that explains a lot of what's going on with the right. The conspiracies are a crutch to explain away things they don't want to admit. They are regressing to anything that feels familiar as a comfort. Even though world wide communism isn't a threat anymore they accept the Birch society conspiracies and pretend that they are fighting communism because it feels familiar to them.
I realize the economy sucks. Other than that, what's really changed a whole hell of a lot? Why are they feeling so devoid of comfort?
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:37:05pm |
re: #48 Killgore Trout
There is a great deal of transference of the angst onto whatever is available.
Have you ever known anyone who got so caught up in very marginal groups? Cults, movements, etc? When a human enters that state it is really really hard to use logic and data to interact with them. It's an interesting phenomenon (as long as you're not the victim, in which case it is just painful.)
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:37:25pm |
OK, I will give Paul Verhoeven this much credit. He was the only director to ever show up at the Razzies to claim his awards for Worst Director and Worst Picture for making Showgirls.
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nene1 Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:38:38pm |
Reminds me of an apocryphal story I once heard about, I think, French King Louis 16th. Evidently he once held a competition offering a substantial prize to whoever could play him a recognisable tune on an unusual instrument.
The winner constructed a 'Pig Piano', with 'notes' ranging from squealer piglets through sows to the 'bass' boars. He won the prize with a rendition of 'Frere Jacques' recognisable by the King.
Any Lizard remember this from other sources that can correct my hazy recollection ?
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:38:38pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I really think that the message is just being drummed into their heads.
The funny thing is, for my theory to be true they have to intentionally expose themselves to things that make them unhappy.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:38:51pm |
re: #51 windsagio
I love how mention of his middle name is a clear marker, like a herpes sore.
But...but...but...they USED his middle name at the inauguration, so it must be OK!!! It is his name, RIGHT????
///I lost patience around the time overly excited young Obama supporters started taking 'Hussein' as a middle name as some sort of sign of support.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:39:43pm |
re: #55 freetoken
Ugh. A very nice, sweet girl is now in one of those 'change your lifestyle' cults that are either fronts for Scientology or just ripoffs of them. She kept trying to get with me to go to lectures and then sign up for the thousands of dollars worth of courses.
I read one of the brochures. It was all totally common-sense stuff mixed with bizarre psychobabble and a little mysticism.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:39:56pm |
re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
OK, I will give Paul Verhoeven this much credit. He was the only director to ever show up at the Razzies to claim his awards for Worst Director and Worst Picture for making Showgirls.
Sandra Bullock showed up for her Razzie...and brought free copies of her movie to hand out too...gotta love her for being a good sport about it (of course, she also won an Oscar this year).
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:40:16pm |
re: #57 nene1
Recognize the story, cannot attest to the reality or falsity thereof.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:41:24pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I realize the economy sucks. Other than that, what's really changed a whole hell of a lot? Why are they feeling so devoid of comfort?
The POTUS isn't pure white.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:41:24pm |
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:42:06pm |
re: #63 avanti
CRAYOLA thanks the tea partiers:
[Video]
I had a Gold sellers popup ad come with the video.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:42:20pm |
re: #60 Obdicut
Human show a penchant for wanting to belong (intensely) to a group. We really are tribal animals. We've got to be a party to something.
Lots of people have made lots of money off of this.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:42:39pm |
Cool...Sirius is streaming MSNBC now on their online player. No more listening to the breathless one, Wolf Blitzer.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:43:00pm |
re: #53 ArchangelMichael
Actually, she's been an extremely busy woman.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:43:01pm |
re: #61 darthstar
Sandra Bullock showed up for her Razzie...and brought free copies of her movie to hand out too...gotta love her for being a good sport about it (of course, she also won an Oscar this year).
I know several actors have shown up. PV has been the only director to do so apparently.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:43:20pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
Why are they feeling so devoid of comfort?
Because their locked into a version of "conservatism" that doesn't work. They're never going to get Roe v Wade overturned, creationism is never going to be taught in public schools, "family values" candidates are going to keep getting busted having gay sex, their concept of "smaller government" is a fantasy, etc. Contraception, sex education and abortion is going to remain legal. There's never going to be a Constitutional ban on gay marriage. Etc....
They're getting near the end of their rope and it scares the hell out of them.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:43:29pm |
re: #64 Floral Giraffe
The POTUS isn't pure white.
I guess I find it amazing that we still have such a considerable group that can't handle that.
Of course, I still find it sort of amazing that we elected him in the first place, so I suppose I can't quite make my mind up about the exact extent of ingrained racism in the U.S.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:43:34pm |
re: #61 darthstar
Sandra Bullock showed up for her Razzie...and brought free copies of her movie to hand out too...gotta love her for being a good sport about it (of course, she also won an Oscar this year).
She won an Oscar for The Blind Side... That movie instantly moved into my top 5 sports movies of all time...Watch it Lizards!
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:44:04pm |
re: #71 Killgore Trout
Add 'their economic and taxation policies have been shown to be disasterous folly'.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:44:30pm |
re: #55 freetoken
Have you ever known anyone who got so caught up in very marginal groups? Cults, movements, etc? When a human enters that state it is really really hard to use logic and data to interact with them. It's an interesting phenomenon (as long as you're not the victim, in which case it is just painful.)
Oh, yeah. I've seen it happen. There's nothing that can be done to stop it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:45:54pm |
re: #65 windsagio
Ugh yeah >
It even bugs me to see people use "BHO".
Of course, the other choice of initials is BO, which has its own problems...
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:46:11pm |
re: #55 freetoken
At the risk of offending someone, one of our karaoke accquaintances ia on the verge of becoming a Jehovah's Witness, if that counts >
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:46:14pm |
re: #73 HoosierHoops
She won an Oscar for The Blind Side... That movie instantly moved into my top 5 sports movies of all time...Watch it Lizards!
Better than "The Harlem Globetrotters on Gilligan's Island"?
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:46:15pm |
re: #35 freetoken
You're right on with most of that, but I don't think it's so much that the conservative mindset feels angry and disenfranchised over the liberal turn America is taking or their political losses. I really don't think that most of them are that aware of what goes on in the political arena other than a sense of 'our side/their side'. Furthermore, I also don't think there's that much of a seismic difference in America as a whole over the time period they're observing.
For instance, one might make the argument that much of President Obama's policies are, in fact, centrist or slightly conservative. Certainly health care reform is far from what a true far lefty would envision. It's not even close to what a pragmatic liberal would envision. There haven't been a whole lot of changes in policy in 2009 from what it was in 2006. The American zeitgeist hasn't changed much. Yet there's a huge change in how Conservatives feel.
I think the reason is in fact much simpler, and much scarier, than many think. I think they are angry and unhappy because they're told to be. Not in so many words, but in the sense that their emotional state is entirely under the control of the media they follow. Not just talk radio and FOX, the prime pushers of the cult, but also in the blogs, and in associating with those of like mind, who of course are also plugged into the same Conservative cult media, thus reinforcing the mutual feeling through self-association.
The media model is simple enough. Humans naturally connect and follow with things they have a strong emotional response to. The actual emotion experienced is less important, just that there is an emotional response. Talk radio, and FOX in the last decade, have turned exploiting this into an art form. Their listeners and viewers are subjected to a constant barrage of themes, ideas, and memes with the goal of evoking an emotional response, which will then cause them to seek out the media time and again, to continue to pull on the emotional strings.
Unfortunately, the easiest emotion to evoke is anger. Making your followers angry at 'them' is so easy, and much more consistent than making them feel pride, or love, or any other kind of emotion. And so those who get plugged into this media, into this cult, continue to do so, to reinforce their emotional responses with daily input.
I've said before that I used to listen to Conservative talk radio 8 hours a day for a few years in my workplace. It wasn't my choice, but as an open-minded type and one interested in how politics works, I didn't mind so much. And the biggest difference I found was that I was consistently angry. It didn't make a lot of sense, because I didn't agree especially with what I was hearing, nor did I feel especial anger towards the radio hosts as some might. I was just - angry. I talked to others who left that workplace, including the guy I replaced, and they noted that the biggest difference in being removed from the constant talk radio was how much less angry they were. I have noted personally (without any stats to back it up other than personal observation) that those who are plugged into the Conservative media, and who seek out that viewpoint on the internet, by and large seem to be either continually angry, or easily angered. Of course, there are angry liberals too, and people who are just naturally angry. But it certainly seems to me to be a recurring theme.
In short, I don't think it's so much that the constant banging on the drum is building to a head. I think it's just a constant reinforcement of emotional responses evoked by clever marketing and headology. Remove these people from their never-ending barrage of emotional manipulation, and I suspect that most will deprogram in very short order. Unfortunately, we humans love to have our emotions manipulated. We thrive on it. And so, sadly, those plugged into the Conservative cult media will continue to seek it out, like junkies after their next fix.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:46:35pm |
re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist
Its funny, maybe I"ve sheltered, but I've never seen anybody use the obvious pun there >
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:47:01pm |
re: #67 freetoken
Pack animals. That be us.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:47:07pm |
re: #71 Killgore Trout
Because their locked into a version of "conservatism" that doesn't work. They're never going to get Roe v Wade overturned, creationism is never going to be taught in public schools, "family values" candidates are going to keep getting busted having gay sex, their concept of "smaller government" is a fantasy, etc. Contraception, sex education and abortion is going to remain legal. There's never going to be a Constitutional ban on gay marriage. Etc...
They're getting near the end of their rope and it scares the hell out of them.
I guess, but all that happened on Bush's watch too, and they seemed OK. I guess they had the wars to be emotionally invested in, but those are continuing. I realize I don't get it.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:48:14pm |
re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist
The culture is just trending against them, and on some level they know it.
More now than ever, its clear that gay marriage and abortion (to name 2) are lost causes for the conservative movement.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:48:29pm |
re: #78 windsagio
At the risk of offending someone, one of our karaoke accquaintances ia on the verge of becoming a Jehovah's Witness, if that counts >
Do you know what appeals to them about it?
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:48:43pm |
re: #84 windsagio
And seeing utter defeat on the horizon makes them shrill and defensive.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:50:55pm |
re: #85 SanFranciscoZionist
The JW pitch is very specifically tuned to appeal to one kind of Christian. He happens to match hte target demographic.
(specifically its about attacking particular verses of the bible, etc. So if you're a literalist/fundamentalist, that's when the pitch really works. If you don't just slam the door on them)
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:50:59pm |
re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist
I guess I find it amazing that we still have such a considerable group that can't handle that.
Of course, I still find it sort of amazing that we elected him in the first place, so I suppose I can't quite make my mind up about the exact extent of ingrained racism in the U.S.
The US is not that racist. It really isn't. It is a testament to how marvelous this place is that less than 8 years after a terror attack, perpetrated by brown people with funny names that shook this nation to its very core, that same nation turned around and elected as President... a brown person with a funny name. No nation on earth save a First World Western nation could do that, and I'm pretty sure most of them still wouldn't.
Those feeling the conservative anger aren't, I think, bemoaning their failed policies or the like. Like I said, I don't think they are especially invested in policies as a whole, except maybe one or two hot-button issues that vary from person to person. I think they're upset and angry solely because those are the emotions that are manipulated in them daily by the media they follow and the people they associate with, who follow the same media.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:52:25pm |
re: #88 Renaissance_Man
You're mistaken, the US has been pretty clearly shown to have deeply racist elements, and they're not that uncommon.
Obama's election came for a variety of reasons, but it was despite racism.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:53:11pm |
re: #84 windsagio
The culture is just trending against them, and on some level they know it.
More now than ever, its clear that gay marriage and abortion (to name 2) are lost causes for the conservative movement.
actually, most folks seem pretty darn conservative on those two issues in particular.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:53:40pm |
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:54:38pm |
re: #90 Spare O'Lake
It's about trends, and the trends are against the hardcore conservative movement.
More and more people are taking the (for simplicity) 'left' position on abortion and gay marriage, and fewer are taking the 'right' position.
Its only a matter of time, and the time is coming up quicker than anyone would have thought.
Thus the anger and series of Hail mary plays from those groups.
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:54:55pm |
re: #89 windsagio
You're mistaken, the US has been pretty clearly shown to have deeply racist elements, and they're not that uncommon.
Obama's election came for a variety of reasons, but it was despite racism.
I am comparing the US to other nations. Western nations are by far the least racist there are. The US may have some deeply racist elements, and it may look terrible to some, but believe me, it's nothing by comparison. I'm not even talking about ghastly obvious examples like apartheid. I'm talking about everyday, institutionalised racism, like how America must have been when blacks weren't allowed to own property or the like.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:55:06pm |
re: #90 Spare O'Lake
actually, most folks seem pretty darn conservative on those two issues in particular.
The majority of Americans do not believe abortion should be made illegal, and gay marriage is climbing quickly in popularity.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:55:52pm |
re: #88 Renaissance_Man
I think it lies somewhere between your take and Killgore's.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:56:04pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Nice! Keep us posted.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:56:31pm |
re: #93 Renaissance_Man
Tell me about Institutionalized racism in Germany, France, Japan, S.Korea, or whatever.
All nations have racism sure, but seroiusly. The problem in the US is bad, and we have to come to terms with it. The good news is that the Obama election is making that happen.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:56:44pm |
re: #88 Renaissance_Man
Some folks appear, post quite regularly for awhile and then disappear.
I really hope you stick around.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:57:40pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
Oh, boy.
Somebody's in deep doo-doo.
Or should be.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:58:01pm |
re: #97 windsagio
Tell me about Institutionalized racism in Germany, France, Japan, S.Korea, or whatever.
All nations have racism sure, but seroiusly. The problem in the US is bad, and we have to come to terms with it. The good news is that the Obama election is making that happen.
I don' t know that Obama's election is going to makeor help us come to terms with racism, it is certainly exposing how much there is.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:58:11pm |
re: #99 reine.de.tout
My bet is that somebody accidentally hit 'send to all users'
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:58:26pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
Keep us up to date!
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:58:37pm |
re: #100 Floral Giraffe
That's kinda what I mean.
Its forcing us to stare the issue in the face, and that can only be good.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:58:52pm |
re: #101 windsagio
My bet is that somebody accidentally hit 'send to all users'
Yep.
Shouldn't be sending those types of e-mails at work, anyhow, even if just to ONE person.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:59:03pm |
And now we're all getting email Message recall attempts.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 2:59:59pm |
re: #104 reine.de.tout
It's a public service for everyone else >>
(No seriously, you're totally right. The dumbness of doing that is appalling. It will eventually bite you in the ass)
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:00:28pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
I can't for the rest of this story...
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:00:44pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
Not an advisable email to send to the entire office. My guess is 'lying whore' will keep his/her job, while email sender won't be so lucky.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:01:02pm |
re: #107 windsagio
It's a public service for everyone else >>
(No seriously, you're totally right. The dumbness of doing that is appalling. It will eventually bite you in the ass)
Oh, yeah.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:01:02pm |
re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I kinda feel bad for the perp now, they're screwed on so many levels.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:02:13pm |
re: #109 darthstar
I can imagine sending an email saying so and so is a liar and keeping your job.
Not one with the word 'whore' in it, though.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:02:41pm |
re: #80 Renaissance_Man
And the biggest difference I found was that I was consistently angry. It didn't make a lot of sense, because I didn't agree especially with what I was hearing, nor did I feel especial anger towards the radio hosts as some might. I was just - angry. I talked to others who left that workplace, including the guy I replaced, and they noted that the biggest difference in being removed from the constant talk radio was how much less angry they were.
Yes, exactly. That is partly what I meant about our ability to affect the emotions of those around us.
The advertising industry has become so specialized in their ability to manipulate people via emotions and self-identity - the promotion of the self, that it is hard to see how we can escape it.
The need to compete - to be the alpha male, goes along with this anger. Did you catch the survey a few weeks ago, about the sports interests of Americans compared to political identity? Telling it was.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:02:45pm |
Never, ever ever write and send and e-mail when you're angry. Especially at work.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:03:30pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
I love hearing about stuff like this because I don't work in a traditional office environment. :D
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:03:46pm |
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windhorse Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:04:13pm |
....I know XXX and she is anything but a liar or a whore.
/
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:04:37pm |
re: #114 reine.de.tout
Never, ever ever write and send and e-mail when you're angry. Especially at work.
/and if you must use someone else's e-mail account ;)
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:04:39pm |
Well, apparently sender was getting laid off, while XXX was getting a promotion, his email contained documentation that he had done the majority of work on several projects XXX had erased his name off of and took sole credit for, plus XXX had been hiding that she has been dating the senior project manager for their office.
Not my team, but a related team working back east.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:00pm |
re: #115 WindUpBird
I love hearing about stuff like this because I don't work in a traditional office environment. :D
There will be no work accomplished for the rest of the day.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:19pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So it was intentional,
And substantially juicier than I could have possibly imagined.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:20pm |
re: #113 freetoken
I missed that survey. Do you have a link?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:27pm |
re: #120 reine.de.tout
Or, much of tomorrow!
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:44pm |
re: #114 reine.de.tout
Never, ever ever write and send and e-mail when you're angry. Especially at work.
I'd say using the title "XXX is a Lying Whore" is probably never a good idea either.
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:45pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, apparently sender was getting laid off, while XXX was getting a promotion, his email contained documentation that he had done the majority of work on several projects XXX had erased his name off of and took sole credit for, plus XXX had been hiding that she has been dating the senior project manager for their office.
Not my team, but a related team working back east.
Is it true?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:05:51pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
Maybe if the whore didn't lie so much these emails wouldn't happen.
/
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:06:12pm |
re: #123 Floral Giraffe
With the way the story is developing, I'd say it's a blown week >>
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:06:12pm |
re: #114 reine.de.tout
Never, ever ever write and send and e-mail when you're angry. Especially at work.
I have never seen a legendary e-mail melt down or serious goof up..
I first started using email back in the day when the only thing really available was Pine...
Bummer..Not one good email with somebody calling somebody out as a lying whore..Dang it!
/
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:06:45pm |
re: #124 webevintage
I'd say using the title "XXX is a Lying Whore" is probably never a good idea either.
well, ya got a point.
I think it was driven by the anger.
Possibly, justified anger.
But this is bad.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:06:52pm |
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:07:24pm |
re: #129 reine.de.tout
Reading the possible context I can see it better. I've done some 'flameout exits' in my time, and this is what it sounds like.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:07:50pm |
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:08:43pm |
re: #126 Killgore Trout
Maybe if the whore didn't lie so much these emails wouldn't happen.
/
There's nothing worse than a prevaricating prostitute.
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windhorse Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:08:50pm |
re: #133 brookly red
(I get invites to a number of company picnics and parties.... )
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:09:10pm |
re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, apparently sender was getting laid off, while XXX was getting a promotion, his email contained documentation that he had done the majority of work on several projects XXX had erased his name off of and took sole credit for, plus XXX had been hiding that she has been dating the senior project manager for their office.
Not my team, but a related team working back east.
Oh man, that is prime, juicy office fun that could only be made better if XXX was one of the bosses wives or daughters.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:09:18pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:09:41pm |
re: #131 windhorse
...so glad I am self-employed!
Then, you can send all the ranting inter-office memos you please.
(Might feel a bit silly after a while, but it's your right.)
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windhorse Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:09:58pm |
re: #137 brookly red
no just a free lance type.... ( a "cheap" free lance type)
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:10:13pm |
re: #132 windsagio
Reading the possible context I can see it better. I've done some 'flameout exits' in my time, and this is what it sounds like.
Yes, but still not good.
Folks should always leave on good terms in case there's a need to rehire after a layoff. It happens.
Better:
Write a letter to the project leader (or whoever) saying how much you've enjoyed working with him and this group yada yada yada, then say you're especially proud of project A that you worked so hard on, and include the documentation that it was your work. Just stay nice and cool and calm and collected.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:10:18pm |
re: #40 Shiplord Kirel
The Dredge Report: Gleanings from the Fever Swamp
Last week, a couple of back-benchers in the Illinois asked the governor to send the National Guard to Chicago to help the cops. Paulian black helicopterists have now morphed this much-ignored request into this:
with the inevitable Freeper hysteria not far behind:
Can we just sedate the nuts till after the election? This is getting ridiculous.
On a serious note, I think sending the National Guard into Chicago is a bad idea.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:10:36pm |
re: #128 HoosierHoops
My favorite email at work was at EA, when an incredibly pretentious preppie schmuck sent one at the end of his testing contract.
Basically, he said that EA is a big whore (which is true, but trite) and that everyone who continued to work for them was a big fucking whore too and deserved to be treated badly by them, since EA was a pimp (kinda contradictory). Also, he'd been developing his own game and we'd all weep at the beauty of it when we saw it. Also, he accused me specifically of harassing him by making him do work and stuff and cutting short his time spent developing that game.
I didn't really make him do any work, because he was so shitty at doing it. I basically just yelled at him to at least look busy every once in awhile.
I don't think he's in the game industry anymore.
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Stanghazi Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:10:42pm |
re: #115 WindUpBird
I love hearing about stuff like this because I don't work in a traditional office environment. :D
Me either, not anymore. That was one of the fun benefits though, the email trauma. We had many.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:11:23pm |
re: #140 reine.de.tout
Oh yeah, its dumb as hell. I can just sympathize.
I've had 'the bitch done me wrong' a few times, and its really hard to let go.
As you say tho', you totally have to, or it just makes it worse. anyways s/he isn't your problem anymore anyways >>
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:11:54pm |
re: #142 Obdicut
It seems to be a fact of life that your best employees never really understand just how good they are, and your worst employees always think they're better than they are.
I don't know why it works that way, but it does.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:12:47pm |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:13:45pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:13:57pm |
re: #140 reine.de.tout
Yes, but still not good.
Folks should always leave on good terms in case there's a need to rehire after a layoff. It happens.Better:
Write a letter to the project leader (or whoever) saying how much you've enjoyed working with him and this group yada yada yada, then say you're especially proud of project A that you worked so hard on, and include the documentation that it was your work. Just stay nice and cool and calm and collected.
Beats slandering someone. (Or, is it libel? Is sending an e-mail publishing?)
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:14:46pm |
re: #147 mich-again
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Revenge is a dish best served with mayonnaise and those little cheesy things on sticks.
+++ Osric the Loopy, planetary governor of Corania (appointed 756.M41, removed from office by the Officio Assassinorum 764.M41) +++
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:15:06pm |
re: #147 mich-again
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Actually, I read somewhere that...not that I would have tried this...the worse thing you can do is to tell someone you forgive them, but then don't really. Look sad, bring it up, rub it in, report back on how the experience has destroyed your life, all the while telling them you forgive them.
The best revenge, however, is to get on with a great life and forget the loser.
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windhorse Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:15:11pm |
Those who know, don't say.
Those who say, don't know....
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:15:43pm |
re: #149 MandyManners
Beats slandering someone. (Or, is it libel? Is sending an e-mail publishing?)
Also protects your reputation; and on the exit interview, instead of saying "NO" to the question, "Would you rehire this person?", the supervisor is more likely to say, "YES". And that's where you want to be - rehired.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:15:59pm |
re: #152 windhorse
Those who know, don't say.
Those who say, don't know...
Those who say they don't know have hidden the stash of chocolate somewhere they think you'll never find it.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:16:00pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:16:23pm |
re: #149 MandyManners
Beats slandering someone. (Or, is it libel? Is sending an e-mail publishing?)
It could be publishing if you sent to enough people. But if someone attacked you via email, you'd likely just send them an email ordering them to perform the Rope Trick.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:16:26pm |
re: #87 windsagio
The JW pitch is very specifically tuned to appeal to one kind of Christian. He happens to match hte target demographic.
(specifically its about attacking particular verses of the bible, etc. So if you're a literalist/fundamentalist, that's when the pitch really works. If you don't just slam the door on them)
Hmm. The only thing that really appeals to me about them is the cute pictures of the world to come, with little kids petting tigers.
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:16:26pm |
re: #151 EmmmieG
the worse thing you can do is to tell someone you forgive them, but then don't really.
Thats a page right out of the wife handbook isn't it?
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:17:01pm |
re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist
Its hard to explain without being offensive to either the guy in question or the religion in question >>
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:18:03pm |
re: #97 windsagio
Tell me about Institutionalized racism in Germany, France, Japan, S.Korea, or whatever.
All nations have racism sure, but seroiusly. The problem in the US is bad, and we have to come to terms with it. The good news is that the Obama election is making that happen.
In most of Africa, tribes and ethnicities kill each other based on nothing but race. In Sri Lanka, civil war has raged for 25 years based on nothing but race. In China, a contestant on Chinese Idol who was not full blood Han sparked a huge national controversy over the purported superiority of the Han race, and the internet comments made Hot Air look like a cuddly lefty blog. In China, police state policies over immigrants are far worse than anything Arizona could dream up, and have been that way for years. In most of SE Asia, nobody would think twice about not hiring someone based on nothing but race. My own parents left the country of their birth because a law was passed that made it very difficult for those of their race to own property.
In any Western nation, including here, any of those policies would be political death at best, and grounds for revolution at worst. The attitudes about race that most of the rest of the world holds would never, ever, be socially acceptable here. That doesn't mean racists don't exist, but Western nations are by far the least racist around.
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Renaissance_Man Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:18:23pm |
re: #98 reine.de.tout
Some folks appear, post quite regularly for awhile and then disappear.
I really hope you stick around.
Nice of you to say, ma'am.
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Stanghazi Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:18:28pm |
Breaking news:
The U.S. extradited former Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega to France on Monday, clearing the way for him to stand trial there on money laundering charges.
The former strongman, who was being held in a federal prison in Miami, was on an Air France flight to Paris, according to a Department of Justice source who spoke anonymously because he was not authorized to comment on the case.
Clinton signs surrender warrant for Manuel Noriega allowing extradition to France
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:19:09pm |
re: #145 reine.de.tout
My best employees at that time were:
1. A totally clean-cut Korean kid who made a lot of money under the table by buying and reselling games from the EA Store.
2. A very openly bisexual goth dude
3. A complete animal of an Jewish punk riot kid who drank like a fish, showed up to work late and hung over, but could organize a database like it was his collection of shot glasses.
Between them, they did about 50% of the real work.
That was when I learned to ask better questions about military experience. I had one guy that had been in the military for 8 years and come out as an E-3. I hadn't realized that meant there was something seriously wrong with his brain.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:19:58pm |
It's strange that Kragar's company let that person use a computer, once they knew they were getting fired. When we had mass layoffs, the employee's were met at the front door, escorted to their desks to gather up personal belongings, escorted to HR, and escorted out the door. I'm assuming their passwords were all inactivated the night before.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:20:28pm |
re: #160 Renaissance_Man
I misread your previous post, and thought you were saying that the other first world countries had institutional racism.
Anyways, it's irrelevant really. Racism isn't a competition, and we have to deal with what we clearly do have.
What's happening in other countries can't be used to distract from our own problems.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:20:46pm |
Okay, finally had time to watch the video...dark, interesting...I want a copy of the poem. It would be a fun one to read to nieces and nephews at holiday gatherings.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:20:48pm |
re: #160 Renaissance_Man
This is why the Free Tibet people piss me the fuck off. Free China; you'll free Tibet in the process.
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:21:12pm |
re: #162 Stanley Sea
Breaking news:
Clinton signs surrender warrant for Manuel Noriega allowing extradition to France
I thought he was dead.
But then I thought Billy Graham was too until this weekend.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:21:54pm |
re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, this should be interesting.
I just received an e-mail, sent to our entire office, with the subject line "XXX is a lying whore". Heads are poking around cubicles like gazelle at a water hole sensing a lion.
Last place with cubes I worked, everyone did the meercat thing--popping up and periscoping around to see what was going on.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:22:23pm |
re: #142 Obdicut
My favorite email at work was at EA, when an incredibly pretentious preppie schmuck sent one at the end of his testing contract.
Oh, he sent this to the company-wide EA address, too. Every EA employee got it, every EA board member got it.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:23:25pm |
re: #164 Floral Giraffe
It's strange that Kragar's company let that person use a computer, once they knew they were getting fired. When we had mass layoffs, the employee's were met at the front door, escorted to their desks to gather up personal belongings, escorted to HR, and escorted out the door. I'm assuming their passwords were all inactivated the night before.
Apparently, XXX came by to gloat, nothing official had been decided yet. Sender just got pissed and sent out his email without any official confirmation.
Stupid stupid man
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:24:59pm |
re: #171 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its funny how fast the information spreads through the net (altho, you wonder about telephone effect).
On the other hand, if even that last bit is true, she's a real piece of work.
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TampaKnight Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:25:21pm |
Charlies-
Thought this might interest you.
A Republican challenger for Governor in Georgia is OUT due to the fact that he wouldn't sign their "Loyalty Oath". He's now trying to get 51,000 signatures to run as an independent.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:25:30pm |
re: #167 Obdicut
This is why the Free Tibet people piss me the fuck off. Free China; you'll free Tibet in the process.
I was all for Free Tibet until I learned it was only free if you bought another Tibet of equal or greater value.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:25:53pm |
re: #167 Obdicut
This is why the Free Tibet people piss me the fuck off. Free China; you'll free Tibet in the process.
Quite Concur.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:26:14pm |
Nice video. Somebody put it in a comment Friday or Saturday, and I didn't have time then to watch it. I'm glad it was put in front of me a second time.
Here's a less scary Cat/Piano video:
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:26:18pm |
re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist
Last place with cubes I worked, everyone did the meercat thing--popping up and periscoping around to see what was going on.
I strung curtains.
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:27:16pm |
re: #165 windsagio
What's happening in other countries can't be used to distract from our own problems.
True enough but it is odd that in the spirit of diversity, our children are constantly taught how wonderful every other culture around the globe is and the diversity lessons always seem to leave out the part about the rampant racism in some of those other cultures. I have seen my kids bring home all sorts of pro-diversity stuff from school over the years and I don't recall ever even once there being even a cursory mentioning of anything bad about the other cultures, other than perhaps that American culture is invading the others. A typical American student must get the impression that racism is only alive and well right here in the USA.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:27:29pm |
For no real reason, Sid Vicious singing "My way."
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:28:13pm |
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:29:00pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:29:32pm |
re: #173 TampaKnight
Charlies-
Thought this might interest you.
A Republican challenger for Governor in Georgia is OUT due to the fact that he wouldn't sign their "Loyalty Oath". He's now trying to get 51,000 signatures to run as an independent.
Given how parties have sometimes been burned by officeholders, I can see a case for loyalty oaths.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:30:08pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
They don't strike you as a bit 'F-wordey'?
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:30:24pm |
re: #167 Obdicut
This is why the Free Tibet people piss me the fuck off. Free China; you'll free Tibet in the process.
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Ma-ha-how
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow ...
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freetoken Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:30:44pm |
re: #122 Obdicut
I missed that survey. Do you have a link?
Don't have time to look it up now... but I think it was in the spin-offs.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:30:55pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
Given how I think the existence of parties in the first place is problematic, I think that's tough noogies for them.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:30:58pm |
Once, a looong time ago, I meant to send an email to a buddy of mine after his girlfriend broke up with him. "Man, forget her, she's a bitch." Three paragraphs of that. Problem is, I'd started out sending an email to her, then I changed my mind and typed one to him instead, but didn't change the To. Whoa, that sucked.
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TampaKnight Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:31:21pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
Given how parties have sometimes been burned by officeholders, I can see a case for loyalty oaths.
I think putting a list of mandates that a person must mindlessly adhere to, based upon "perceived" standpoints, is ridiculous.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:32:03pm |
re: #173 TampaKnight
Charlies-
Thought this might interest you.
A Republican challenger for Governor in Georgia is OUT due to the fact that he wouldn't sign their "Loyalty Oath". He's now trying to get 51,000 signatures to run as an independent.
Charlies?? There can be only one!!
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:32:42pm |
re: #188 cliffster
You don't even have to missend a message for that to blow up on you.
The 'don't worry she's a bitch' --> 'we got back together and I don't like you talking about my girlfriend that way!'
scenario is a terror
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:33:43pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
Given how parties have sometimes been burned by officeholders, I can see a case for loyalty oaths.
If all we are going to do is elect robots who are programmed to support or reject any piece of legislation based on the litmus test we used to elect them, then why even elect people at all. Save all the costs and just "elect" the checksheet.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:34:24pm |
re: #192 mich-again
At least a ballot that only had 2 big boxes "REPUBLICAN" and "DEMOCRAT" would be simple to use >>
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albusteve Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:34:46pm |
re: #192 mich-again
If all we are going to do is elect robots who are programmed to support or reject any piece of legislation based on the litmus test we used to elect them, then why even elect people at all. Save all the costs and just "elect" the checksheet.
hmmm...govt run by computer
possibilities?
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:34:51pm |
re: #191 windsagio
You don't even have to missend a message for that to blow up on you.
The 'don't worry she's a bitch' --> 'we got back together and I don't like you talking about my girlfriend that way!'
scenario is a terror
Yeah, trust me, that potentiality wasn't lost on me. Fortunately it didn't happen. He met and married a very nice girl and is living happily ever after. So forget that other girl, she's a bitch!
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TampaKnight Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:35:28pm |
re: #194 albusteve
hmmm...govt run by computer
possibilities?
Can be programmed to not exceed it's budget?
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:35:43pm |
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:36:02pm |
re: #191 windsagio
scenario is a terror
It never ever works to get in between a buddy and his GF, even if you mean well by warning him that shes a tramp. Only bad things will come out of that.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:36:29pm |
re: #192 mich-again
If all we are going to do is elect robots who are programmed to support or reject any piece of legislation based on the litmus test we used to elect them, then why even elect people at all. Save all the costs and just "elect" the checksheet.
The Obamatron.
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Athens Runaway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:36:55pm |
re: #194 albusteve
hmmm...govt run by computer
possibilities?
A centrally controlled government run by computers never seemed to go wrong for all those civilizations on "Star Trek."
Red Hour, anyone?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:37:13pm |
re: #184 windsagio
They don't strike you as a bit 'F-wordey'?
They do, but I understand them. It can be intensely angering to watch the person you helped get elected with the party apparatus turn on the party and its platform. A number of officeholders have done that and I hate that. I'm not sure how good an idea such oaths are, but they do appeal to me. I'm not a fan of "mavericks" spurning those who got them into power.
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Lidane Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:38:11pm |
Because really, there's absolutely no reason at all to be concerned about mine safety:
Mining lobbyist: ‘The president has parked his tanks on our front lawn’
This weekend, as President Barack Obama traveled to West Virginia to mourn the deaths of 29 miners in the Massey coal explosion, the mining industry attacked the president with militant right-wing rhetoric. Obama has supported the U.S. coal industry with an agenda of investing “huge subsidies” in the advanced coal technology that he misleadingly calls “clean coal.” His administration has begun to crack down on the industry’s worst safety violators and most egregious practices like mountaintop removal, but has also announced that any limits on carbon pollution would not begin until 2011. The day before Obama praised coal as “the energy that powers our country and powers the world,” National Mining Association spokesman Luke Popovich attacked the president as a military invader of coal country:
You’d be hard pressed to find a president whose actions have been more warlike on coal. There are those who say the president has parked his tanks on our front lawn, and it’s hard to dispute that.
The National Mining Association — whose directors include Massey Energy’s Don Blankenship — joins a right-wing chorus accusing Obama of “invading” and declaring “war” on Americans, including Newt Gingrich, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), Rep. Bob Latta (R-OH), and CNN commentator Erick Erickson. (HT Appalachian Voices)
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albusteve Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:38:12pm |
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albusteve Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:39:27pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
They do, but I understand them. It can be intensely angering to watch the person you helped get elected with the party apparatus turn on the party and its platform. A number of officeholders have done that and I hate that. I'm not sure how good an idea such oaths are, but they do appeal to me. I'm not a fan of "mavericks" spurning those who got them into power.
you've been shat on....pols do that with regularity
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MandyManners Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:39:28pm |
re: #179 mich-again
True enough but it is odd that in the spirit of diversity, our children are constantly taught how wonderful every other culture around the globe is and the diversity lessons always seem to leave out the part about the rampant racism in some of those other cultures. I have seen my kids bring home all sorts of pro-diversity stuff from school over the years and I don't recall ever even once there being even a cursory mentioning of anything bad about the other cultures, other than perhaps that American culture is invading the others. A typical American student must get the impression that racism is only alive and well right here in the USA.
Many want us to believe that.
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:39:42pm |
re: #194 albusteve
hmmm...govt run by computer
possibilities?
Yeah but who gets to write the algorithms? Glen Beck and Al Franken?
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:40:03pm |
re: #194 albusteve
hmmm...govt run by computer
possibilities?
The Master Control Program. With the information it has access to it can run things 900 to 1200 times better than any human.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:40:26pm |
re: #203 albusteve
speaks in 1s and 0s exclusively
011001000110111101101110001001110111010000100000011010110110111001101111011000110110101100100000011010010111010000100000011101010110111001110100011010010110110000100000011110010110111101110101001001110111011001100101001000000111010001110010011010010110010101100100001000000110100101110100
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:41:06pm |
re: #171 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Apparently, XXX came by to gloat, nothing official had been decided yet. Sender just got pissed and sent out his email without any official confirmation.
Stupid stupid man
Nice. Email yourself into unemployment.
Wow!!
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Neutral President Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:41:49pm |
re: #200 Athens Runaway
A centrally controlled government run by computers never seemed to go wrong for all those civilizations on "Star Trek."
Red Hour, anyone?
Are you of The Body?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:41:59pm |
re: #207 ArchangelMichael
The Master Control Program. With the information it has access to it can run things 900 to 1200 times better than any human.
Upding for the TRON reference.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:42:00pm |
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:42:00pm |
re: #210 Floral Giraffe
Nice. Email yourself into unemployment.
Wow!!
If its true, I can imagine 3 open positions open.
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:42:05pm |
re: #196 TampaKnight
Can be programmed to not exceed it's budget?
No, it will automatically tied into the printing presses. Need more? Print more. In other words, no change from the current system.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:42:43pm |
re: #207 ArchangelMichael
The Master Control Program. With the information it has access to it can run things 900 to 1200 times better than any human.
The BHO9000
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:43:11pm |
re: #216 Spare O'Lake
I admit he seems superhuman sometimes, but its just an illusion.
Don't let him fool yoU!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:43:12pm |
re: #210 Floral Giraffe
Nice. Email yourself into unemployment.
Wow!!
Actually, that stunt will likely get him fired for cause. And since it was a deliberate act, he likely emailed himself out of his unemployment.
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albusteve Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:43:38pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:43:57pm |
re: #214 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Company has a "no dating co-workers" policy?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:44:17pm |
re: #216 Spare O'Lake
The BHO9000
Capable of producing 10,000 Hopey Change proclamations per second.
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mich-again Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:45:13pm |
I do think that well designed software could assist doctors who are trying to diagnose a patient's illness based on their symptoms and it could help determine which tests to run to prove or disprove the possibilities.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:46:16pm |
re: #221 Dark_Falcon
Capable of producing 10,000 Hopey Change proclamations per second.
With a 90% success rate on delivering, too. Change is good. Admit it, the guy's kicked ass as far as accomplishing things since he took office. Imagine how much more he'll accomplish if the Democrats ever get around to supporting him properly and a handful of Republicans put country ahead of party.
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Athens Runaway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:46:43pm |
re: #211 ArchangelMichael
Are you of The Body?
Don't screw with me. I studied at the Bill Shatner School of Arguing With Nanny-State Computers and Computer Civilizations.
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webevintage Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:46:47pm |
re: #202 Lidane
Because really, there's absolutely no reason at all to be concerned about mine safety:
Mining lobbyist: ‘The president has parked his tanks on our front lawn’
I wonder if he is the same asshole who said the widow of one of the miners was "only in it for the money" when she filed a lawsuit against Massey.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:47:15pm |
re: #209 darthstar
Very funny Dilbert for your post.
[Link: www.dilbert.com...]
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:47:34pm |
re: #223 darthstar
As I think further, nothing human could get any HCR passed.
Real quesiton: Supercomputer, or mutant with mind controlling powers?
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:47:49pm |
re: #220 Floral Giraffe
Company has a "no dating co-workers" policy?
Never looked into it, I think maybe something in relationship to dating your manager. Favoritism and such
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albusteve Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:48:16pm |
re: #223 darthstar
With a 90% success rate on delivering, too. Change is good. Admit it, the guy's kicked ass as far as accomplishing things since he took office. Imagine how much more he'll accomplish if the Democrats ever get around to supporting him properly and a handful of Republicans put country ahead of party.
he's a Superstar from Beyond the Realm....so perfect, he's almost beyond human
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:48:19pm |
COMPUTROLL ALERT:
DANGER, DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:48:28pm |
re: #228 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah in some places they call it 'fraternization' >>
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Athens Runaway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:49:10pm |
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:50:10pm |
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:50:48pm |
re: #227 windsagio
To answer myself, probably the latter.
Reasons:
1, he's too charming to be a computer.
2, his success in pushing his evil dictatorial agenda is beyond any explanation besides the paranormal.
... Wait, it sounds like the head of the RNC went to a crossroads at midnight during a thunderstorm, and sold his party to the Obama!
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:51:30pm |
re: #229 albusteve
he's a Superstar from Beyond the Realm...so perfect, he's almost beyond human
Careful how you mock our president...
(yes, it's a repeat)
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:52:45pm |
re: #229 albusteve
Glad to see you finally coming around Steve, maybe you don't have ODS so bad afterall!
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albusteve Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:53:25pm |
re: #235 darthstar
Careful how you mock our president...
(yes, it's a repeat)
I can't stand the boob, but mocking him doesn't give me the buzz it used too...still he is the supreme tomato can
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:53:45pm |
re: #226 Floral Giraffe
Very funny Dilbert for your post.
[Link: www.dilbert.com...]
Very good. Scott Adams has been on a roll as of late. His strip had been in something of a decline, but he seems to have gotten his groove back.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:54:16pm |
re: #222 mich-again
I do think that well designed software could assist doctors who are trying to diagnose a patient's illness based on their symptoms and it could help determine which tests to run to prove or disprove the possibilities.
It will make me very nervous if I ever see my doctor pulling up [Link: www.webmd.com...] after talking to me about something.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 3:58:55pm |
re: #239 cliffster
It will make me very nervous if I ever see my doctor pulling up [Link: www.webmd.com...] after talking to me about something.
I had a condition that my doctor looked up in a book, then brought the book into the examination room to show me. This was about 1995. Bell's Palsy. My case was very mild.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:00:27pm |
re: #240 wrenchwench
I had a condition that my doctor looked up in a book, then brought the book into the examination room to show me. This was about 1995. Bell's Palsy. My case was very mild.
I've known people who had Bell's...in mild cases, the nerves do heal themselves, but at a very slow rate. Glad you recovered.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:01:53pm |
re: #237 albusteve
Hey...did you translate my 1s and 0s yet? I left a link for you. Binary is fun!
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:02:18pm |
re: #240 wrenchwench
I had a condition that my doctor looked up in a book, then brought the book into the examination room to show me. This was about 1995. Bell's Palsy. My case was very mild.
Wow, my brother got that, and one of my good friends. That is one odd condition. See, I can respect bringing in the book, and I love it when they call one of their colleagues for advice/second opinion.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:03:01pm |
re: #242 darthstar
Apropos of nothing, I love you but can't tell you why!
Seriously, you're a lifesaver.
To everyone else: BBIAB!
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:03:47pm |
re: #241 darthstar
I've known people who had Bell's...in mild cases, the nerves do heal themselves, but at a very slow rate. Glad you recovered.
They said an average case lasts 3 to 6 months. I got rid of it in three weeks. I looked at my copy of Gray's Anatomy, saw where the 7th cranial nerve goes, and I iced it behind my ear, and I took Ibuprofen. I figured that's what you do for inflammation, and it seemed to work.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:09:15pm |
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:10:29pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sounds like you deserve some pain, for that!
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:11:18pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
This is an opportunity to eat crow and claim you'll never doubt her again. Bring flowers.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:12:24pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
well you could A. fess up and offer a pizza as apology or, B. mail it to your self... your choice.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:13:17pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:14:22pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
None of the above ideas are fool proof!!
...Ah..Do you have a dog??
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:15:05pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
Zedushka was bugging me about leaving two of his books in the rental car when I returned it after our trip to Toronto, then he found them in the same bag with the cigarettes that he bought at the Duty Free.
You should buy her something. Flowers are OK, but nothing says "I'm sorry" like a nice jewelry.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:15:31pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
Listen to Darth. She's going to ask you where you found it at some point, and you'll have to lie...one thing leads to another, and it'll be every other weekend with the kids. It's not worth it.
Grovel!
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:16:17pm |
re: #255 wrenchwench
Listen to Darth. She's going to ask you where you found it at some point, and you'll have to lie...one thing leads to another, and it'll be every other weekend with the kids. It's not worth it.
Grovel!
so happily single la, la, la...
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:16:33pm |
Thank you Charles, that was really excellent. Have to play that on the big screen later for the parents, dad wont get much out of it, but Mom will love it. :)
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:17:10pm |
re: #252 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Or, I wait till she heads to the store
Sure...and hide the book in her underwear drawer...that'll go over beautifully.
/
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:17:16pm |
re: #255 wrenchwench
The dog idea can WORK without telling a lie!!
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:18:27pm |
re: #259 reloadingisnotahobby
The dog idea can WORK without telling a lie!!
Maybe you'll have to flesh that one out for me...the dog lost it, then the dog found it?
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CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:18:32pm |
Good evening, Lizards.
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I realize the economy sucks. Other than that, what's really changed a whole hell of a lot? Why are they feeling so devoid of comfort?
While I definitely believe some people dislike President Obama because he is (half) Black, I suspect that many others dislike him because he is a symbol of the changing face & evolving culture of America.
I think that right up until 11pm on November 4, 2008 a lot of people were able to convince themselves that things hadn't really been changing over the years. Then Obama won. and won by a large margin. And suddenly there was no more denying it—change had arrived, it became real, undeniable.
I think some people want to put the genie back in the bottle, and they know in their heart of hearts that it's not going to happen. And that makes them feel afraid, and the fear makes them resentful, and the resentment makes them angry, and it's ALL OBAMA'S FAULT. Because if he hadn't come along with all his hopey-changey stuff and had the temerity to actually be elected as President, then they wouldn't have had the comforting veil denial ripped away from them.
Just my $0.02.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:19:24pm |
re: #259 reloadingisnotahobby
The dog idea can WORK without telling a lie!!
Only if you wrap each page in bacon. Then you'll get to monitor the dog for three days as it processes all that fat (I know...I made the mistake of feeding my dog too much bacon & bacon grease once...he was a fecal firehose, and not very happy for a couple of days).
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:19:33pm |
re: #255 wrenchwench
Listen to Darth. She's going to ask you where you found it at some point, and you'll have to lie...one thing leads to another, and it'll be every other weekend with the kids. It's not worth it.
Grovel!
THE KIDS!
Why didn't I think of that? I'll blame the kids. That always works!
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:19:40pm |
re: #254 Alouette
My dad had me go to the locked attic of the house that we rent out to hunt down a book that wasn't there and that he later admitted to having used to prop up his computer monitor.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:20:00pm |
re: #263 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
THE KIDS!
Why didn't I think of that? I'll blame the kids. That always works!
LOL
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:20:11pm |
re: #261 CuriousLurker
Good evening, Lizards.
While I definitely believe some people dislike President Obama because he is (half) Black, I suspect that many others dislike him because he is a symbol of the changing face & evolving culture of America.
I think that right up until 11pm on November 4, 2008 a lot of people were able to convince themselves that things hadn't really been changing over the years. Then Obama won. and won by a large margin. And suddenly there was no more denying it—change had arrived, it became real, undeniable.
I think some people want to put the genie back in the bottle, and they know in their heart of hearts that it's not going to happen. And that makes them feel afraid, and the fear makes them resentful, and the resentment makes them angry, and it's ALL OBAMA'S FAULT. Because if he hadn't come along with all his hopey-changey stuff and had the temerity to actually be elected as President, then they wouldn't have had the comforting veil denial ripped away from them.
Just my $0.02.
or some people just think his policies sux...
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:20:37pm |
re: #264 Obdicut
My dad had me go to the locked attic of the house that we rent out to hunt down a book that wasn't there and that he later admitted to having used to prop up his computer monitor.
He didn't claim you took off in a balloon while you were looking for the book, did he?
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:21:07pm |
re: #260 wrenchwench
Use your imagination...
Be scolding the dog when she comes in from the store!
When she asks what's going on....reply "Oh, hey look I found the
book"! Modify as needed but never lie!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:21:20pm |
re: #248 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hmmm, I now have to figure a way to sneak the book I left at work on friday past the wife when I get home, since I bugged her all weekend about moving the book because I couldn't find it.
HA!
I hope you get caught.
Every time something very very old breaks in my house, it is always somehow my fault! Even when it isn't, which is most of the time.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:21:23pm |
re: #263 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
THE KIDS!
Why didn't I think of that? I'll blame the kids. That always works!
/fast forward 30 years to the crappy nursing home...
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:22:10pm |
re: #261 CuriousLurker
If I had known all these effects that his election would have, I would have voted for him!
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reloadingisnotahobby Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:22:18pm |
re: #263 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
THE KIDS!
Why didn't I think of that? I'll blame the kids. That always works!
Only if they can't speak!!
Then all bets are off!
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Lidane Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:22:28pm |
I can't decide if this is insane, hilarious, or ballsy:
California woman charged with moving into, claiming Lolo home she didn't own
A California woman is charged with burglary after prosecutors say she moved into a Lolo house that was for sale, changed the locks and delivered paperwork to the owner claiming it was hers.
Jackiya D. Ford, 37, was arrested on April 14 and her belongings removed from a house built by Bob Paffhausen. She made an initial appearance in Justice Court on April 19 and her bail was set at $50,000.
Paffhausen said Ford had showed up about two weeks earlier to view the house as a prospective buyer. Sometime after that, prosecutors say Ford delivered paperwork to Paffhausen claiming ownership of the house and the land in a 20-mile radius around it. She offered to drop the lawsuit if Paffhausen would pay her about $900,000 in pure silver and gold.
Paffhausen received a call from NorthWestern Energy saying someone had reported a natural gas leak at the house. Paffhausen went to the house, where he found the locks and garage door codes had been changed and notices were posted on the doors claiming the house had been given to Ford by "our Lord and Savior Yahushua."
Looking through a kitchen window, he could see personal belongings, including a rifle case leaning against the living room wall.
Paffhausen called County Attorney Dori Brownlow, with whom he had been working on Ford's alleged claim to the house, and then 911.
Missoula County deputies shut off the gas and electricity to the house and were discussing how to enter the house when Ford drove up. Officers arrested her before she got out of the SUV.
Ford told the officers she was a sovereign citizen of the republic of America and therefore they had no authority over her. She said she owned the whole mountainside and that they were on public property. She said she had lived in the house for about two weeks, court records said.
Ford had a child with her and court records say the child was turned over to child protective services.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:22:31pm |
re: #266 brookly red
or some people just think his policies sux...
Maybe, but to me the reaction seems wayyyy out of proportion if that's all it is.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:23:31pm |
Why would he apologize about this... was anyone really bothered by this... ? I was at a 8 hour training session so I don't know if anyone saw this?
Jones apologizes for joke about Jewish merchant
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:25:23pm |
re: #273 Lidane
I can't decide if this is insane, hilarious, or ballsy:
California woman charged with moving into, claiming Lolo home she didn't own
She's not a Californian...she's a citizen of the Republic of America. We have enough nuts in our state without taking credit for this one.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:25:37pm |
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
I have the finished front and back covers, ready to be uploaded, and should have the pdf of the actual book sometime later today, maybe tomorrow.
I just looked at the ROFLMAO sections of the book - the first one is a very long Geeky Engineer Pun thread.
Followed by lots of hilarity.
The book also has a lot of really good recipes in it, better than the first IMO.
Hope y'all are getting excited.
And if you haven't yet voted on how to distribute the proceeds from the book, please go here and vote
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:25:58pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
Given how parties have sometimes been burned by officeholders, I can see a case for loyalty oaths.
What happened to "country first"?
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:26:58pm |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
Why would he apologize about this... was anyone really bothered by this... ? I was at a 8 hour training session so I don't know if anyone saw this?
Jones apologizes for joke about Jewish merchant
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]
I thought this type of joke in a public setting was in very very poor taste.
The joke itself - pffft. But it was told in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just my .02.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:27:16pm |
re: #278 Reginald Perrin
What happened to "country first"?
That was a stupid campaign slogan and, apparently, a lie by its user.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:27:56pm |
re: #278 Reginald Perrin
What happened to "country first"?
That was on the ballot. America voted against it.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:27:58pm |
re: #273 Lidane
I can't decide if this is insane, hilarious, or ballsy:
California woman charged with moving into, claiming Lolo home she didn't own
eminent domain... next.
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garhighway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:29:06pm |
re: #223 darthstar
Imagine how much more he'll accomplish if ... a handful of Republicans put country ahead of party.
When pigs fly.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:29:14pm |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
Covered in the overnight thread, if you want to read it there.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:29:53pm |
re: #284 Obdicut
Covered in the overnight thread, if you want to read it there.
Lizards don't miss much!
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:30:01pm |
re: #274 CuriousLurker
Maybe, but to me the reaction seems wayyy out of proportion if that's all it is.
If people were able to demonstrate they actually knew what his policies were, I'd believe it was because they felt that they sucked.
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What, me worry? Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:30:40pm |
re: #261 CuriousLurker
Maybe, but isn't the Republican party all about change now? The teabaggers want to change government, as in less government. Arizona Republicans want to change the 4th Amendment (in essence). Others want to change separation of church and state and teach creationism alongside evolution. The right wants change alright, but changes in the wrong direction.
Obama campaigned on 4 major issues healthcare, economy, education and energy. These are the things he wanted to change. The economy is the most difficult because not all of that is in government control. Healthcare he got passed (good or bad). He's made some moves in education, giving grants and credits for community service. Energy will be the next big hurdle.
These are changes all of us should be willing to get behind. Not re-writing the constitution (like they claim the left the is doing).
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garhighway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:31:25pm |
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:32:58pm |
re: #256 brookly red
Arrrgh! You're making your relationship status a minor obsession for me, and that's minorly offputting and creepy!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:33:27pm |
re: #284 Obdicut
Covered in the overnight thread, if you want to read it there.
Not worth it... really funny joke...
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:33:30pm |
re: #281 cliffster
Man, I didn't see that. What was it under?
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:33:43pm |
re: #289 windsagio
Arrrgh! You're making your relationship status a minor obsession for me, and that's minorly offputting and creepy!
Probably more creepy for him than you...
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:34:09pm |
re: #292 cliffster
Could well be. I'm not sayin' I like it!
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:35:52pm |
re: #289 windsagio
Arrrgh! You're making your relationship status a minor obsession for me, and that's minorly offputting and creepy!
I am a conservative and an NRA member... now shooo
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:36:40pm |
re: #273 Lidane
I can't decide if this is insane, hilarious, or ballsy:
California woman charged with moving into, claiming Lolo home she didn't own
I'd go with insane. That woman is several bricks short of a load.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:38:39pm |
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:38:39pm |
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KingKenrod Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:40:59pm |
Palin fail:
[Link: www.star-telegram.com...]
Ticket prices are dropping for the Friday night gala that features a VIP gathering and speech by former GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.
Instead of $1,000, attendees can now pay $250 for one ticket to the 7 p.m. dinner Friday where the former Alaska governor will speak at the Fairmont Hotel in Dallas. Tickets for two to the VIP reception and dinner, once priced at $25,000, now cost $2,000 (and now include six non-VIP dinner tickets and a photo with Palin). Ticket sales end at 5 p.m. Tuesday.
Organizers say "ticket sales have been reduced to offer a greater number of people an opportunity to attend." Organizers also say funds raised will benefit a new kind of women's health center, the Uptown Women’s Center.
Read more: [Link: www.star-telegram.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:41:02pm |
re: #278 Reginald Perrin
What happened to "country first"?
I see a case for it, which does not mean I approve. Rather, I understand that parties want to ensure that the person they campaign for doesn't turn on them. Loyalty oaths may not be the best way to prevent that, so I'm not giving them my approval at this time. Instead, I'm remaining neutral on the matter for the time being.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:41:03pm |
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:41:28pm |
re: #277 reine.de.tout
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
I have the finished front and back covers, ready to be uploaded, and should have the pdf of the actual book sometime later today, maybe tomorrow.
I just looked at the ROFLMAO sections of the book - the first one is a very long Geeky Engineer Pun thread.
Followed by lots of hilarity.
The book also has a lot of really good recipes in it, better than the first IMO.
Hope y'all are getting excited.
And if you haven't yet voted on how to distribute the proceeds from the book, please go here and vote
I suspect CJ would donate on the quiet, irrespective of how the vote goes.
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Liberal Classic Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:42:03pm |
re: #287 marjoriemoon
Maybe, but isn't the Republican party all about change now? The teabaggers want to change government, as in less government. Arizona Republicans want to change the 4th Amendment (in essence). Others want to change separation of church and state and teach creationism alongside evolution. The right wants change alright, but changes in the wrong direction.
Obama campaigned on 4 major issues healthcare, economy, education and energy. These are the things he wanted to change. The economy is the most difficult because not all of that is in government control. Healthcare he got passed (good or bad). He's made some moves in education, giving grants and credits for community service. Energy will be the next big hurdle.
These are changes all of us should be willing to get behind. Not re-writing the constitution (like they claim the left the is doing).
Is it possible to object to the direction of Obama's proposed changes without being labeled a "teabagger"? Please?
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:42:24pm |
re: #261 CuriousLurker
Good evening, Lizards.
While I definitely believe some people dislike President Obama because he is (half) Black, I suspect that many others dislike him because he is a symbol of the changing face & evolving culture of America.
I think that right up until 11pm on November 4, 2008 a lot of people were able to convince themselves that things hadn't really been changing over the years. Then Obama won. and won by a large margin. And suddenly there was no more denying it—change had arrived, it became real, undeniable.
I think some people want to put the genie back in the bottle, and they know in their heart of hearts that it's not going to happen. And that makes them feel afraid, and the fear makes them resentful, and the resentment makes them angry, and it's ALL OBAMA'S FAULT. Because if he hadn't come along with all his hopey-changey stuff and had the temerity to actually be elected as President, then they wouldn't have had the comforting veil denial ripped away from them.
Just my $0.02.
Naw, it isn't that the "majority" voted for him, how could the majority possibly vote for a Kenyan, Muslim, Ni**er? They know, just know deep down in their tiny cold hearts, that really it was just because of massive and widespread multi-state voter fraud by ACORN!
/yeah, that has to be it!
(your taking about freepers and their kin here, actual facts mean nothing...sigh)
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Lidane Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:42:32pm |
re: #295 Dark_Falcon
I'd go with insane. That woman is several bricks short of a load.
Well, yes. However, I think that claiming not just the house, but the 20-mile radius around the house, including the mountainside, is hilarious. That takes a serious amount of chutzpah.
Also, her demands for pure gold and silver and claims of sovereign citizenship made me laugh. What are the odds she listens to Glenn Beck and Alex Jones?
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:43:11pm |
re: #303 Liberal Classic
Is it possible to object to the direction of Obama's proposed changes without being labeled a "teabagger"? Please?
/would you prefer wingnut or racist?
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:43:13pm |
re: #299 KingKenrod
Palin fail:
[Link: www.star-telegram.com...]
Organizers say "ticket sales have been reduced to offer a greater number of people an opportunity to attend."
Translation: Sarah won't speak to an almost empty room, and we don't want to have to hire actors and actresses to act like they like her, so we're hoping we can rope in some idiots from the Tea Party.
I hope the people who paid 1,000 bucks a ticket ask for 750 dollar refunds.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:43:38pm |
re: #299 KingKenrod
Palin fail:
[Link: www.star-telegram.com...]
$2000 for a photo with the Twit? I'd pay $3000 (if I had it) to throw tomatoes at her instead.
/mostly kidding
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Liberal Classic Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:43:39pm |
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Lidane Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:43:46pm |
re: #282 brookly red
Wouldn't it actually be adverse possession if she'd been successful and not utterly batshit?
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:44:06pm |
re: #301 brookly red
ya know it's been quiet lately...
Need some evolution and global warming threads, maybe something on the Confederacy, to get thing riled up.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:44:39pm |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
$2000 for a photo with the Twit? I'd pay $3000 (if I had it) to throw tomatoes at her instead.
/mostly kidding
Inciting violence! Violent post! Report!
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:44:40pm |
re: #305 Lidane
Well, yes. However, I think that claiming not just the house, but the 20-mile radius around the house, including the mountainside, is hilarious. That takes a serious amount of chutzpah.
Also, her demands for pure gold and silver and claims of sovereign citizenship made me laugh. What are the odds she listens to Glenn Beck and Alex Jones?
It is very funny!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:45:27pm |
re: #305 Lidane
Well, yes. However, I think that claiming not just the house, but the 20-mile radius around the house, including the mountainside, is hilarious. That takes a serious amount of chutzpah.
Also, her demands for pure gold and silver and claims of sovereign citizenship made me laugh. What are the odds she listens to Glenn Beck and Alex Jones?
ELEVENTY!1!11! to 1. ;)
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:45:27pm |
re: #310 Lidane
Wouldn't it actually be adverse possession if she'd been successful and not utterly batshit?
/hey this country was built on adverse possession!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:45:32pm |
re: #311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Need some evolution and global warming threads, maybe something on the Confederacy, to get thing riled up.
Maybe we could tell greedy jewish merchant jokes... they're always fun?
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CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:45:37pm |
re: #287 marjoriemoon
Maybe, but isn't the Republican party all about change now? The teabaggers want to change government, as in less government. Arizona Republicans want to change the 4th Amendment (in essence). Others want to change separation of church and state and teach creationism alongside evolution. The right wants change alright, but changes in the wrong direction.
Obama campaigned on 4 major issues healthcare, economy, education and energy. These are the things he wanted to change. The economy is the most difficult because not all of that is in government control. Healthcare he got passed (good or bad). He's made some moves in education, giving grants and credits for community service. Energy will be the next big hurdle.
These are changes all of us should be willing to get behind. Not re-writing the constitution (like they claim the left the is doing).
I guess now it's all about change/counter-change. Or something. The whole thing is really weird to me. I mean, America is still here. No black helicopters have landed, no political prisoners have been arrested and carted away to FEMA internment camps, no children have been forced to attend re-education programs, POTUS hasn't declared that God is dead (commie) or instituted shariah (seekret Kenyan Moosilim). So....? I don't get what all the drama & panic is about. It just doesn't compute.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:46:50pm |
re: #300 Dark_Falcon
I believe that elected officials answer to the electorate in their districts first, then to their party.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:47:07pm |
re: #316 Walter L. Newton
Maybe we could tell greedy jewish merchant jokes... they're always fun?
You really want to recycle that discussion THAT much? Off-color jokes are called 'off-color' for a reason...
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:47:14pm |
re: #301 brookly red
ya know it's been quiet lately...
Any racist, violent, fear-mongering right-wingers that were going to flounce have flounced already. The rest of us are here to stay and annoy the proggie revolution
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Lidane Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:47:56pm |
re: #315 brookly red
/hey this country was built on adverse possession!
I guess that was her plan too, seeing as how she's a sovereign citizen of the "Republic of America". She had to get land somehow! Heh.
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What, me worry? Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:48:20pm |
re: #303 Liberal Classic
Is it possible to object to the direction of Obama's proposed changes without being labeled a "teabagger"? Please?
I was referring to several groups of people who don't have (IMO) good ideas of change. Teabaggers are one of those people. Although I do believe there are places where government regulation is not terribly effective (war on drugs comes to mind) and other areas where we could use more help.
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Kragar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:48:46pm |
re: #321 Lidane
I guess that was her plan too, seeing as how she's a sovereign citizen of the "Republic of America". She had to get land somehow! Heh.
It was given to her by the Empress of the Americas.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:49:14pm |
re: #319 darthstar
You really want to recycle that discussion THAT much? Off-color jokes are called 'off-color' for a reason...
And what reason is that? Why are they called off-color?
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:49:18pm |
re: #311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Need some evolution and global warming threads, maybe something on the Confederacy, to get thing riled up.
OK here you go...
the earth is warming cause it is evolving & the damn Yankees with their funny light bulbs are trying to thwart God's will.
will that do?
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Lidane Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:49:38pm |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
ELEVENTY!1!11! to 1. ;)
All she needs are some non-hybrid seeds, a chalkboard and some tinfoil, and she's all set. ;)
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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:49:39pm |
re: #303 Liberal Classic
Is it possible to object to the direction of Obama's proposed changes without being labeled a "teabagger"?
Yes. Avoid hysterics, conspiracies and bogus talking points.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:49:42pm |
re: #319 darthstar
You really want to recycle that discussion THAT much? Off-color jokes are called 'off-color' for a reason...
Recycle? I just read over the comment on the overnight thread on about this joke, and I noticed that there was a lot of agreement that this joke was just a off-the-cuff bit of humor, so, why not.
You got any funny jewish merchant jokes?
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:50:20pm |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
I would pat $2000 dollars to have my picture taken with Sara Palin*
.
.
* if I was allowed to wear an "I'm with stupid" sweatshirt.
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:51:14pm |
re: #329 Reginald Perrin
Can't you just photoshop it like the rest of us normal people?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:51:26pm |
re: #318 Reginald Perrin
I believe that elected officials answer to the electorate in their districts first, then to their party.
True, that's why I'm not taking an absolute position. I understand both sides of the argument, and will look for acceptable compromises short of loyalty oaths.
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:51:35pm |
re: #321 Lidane
I guess that was her plan too, seeing as how she's a sovereign citizen of the "Republic of America". She had to get land somehow! Heh.
I need new glasses... I first read that as "she had to get laid somehow"... my bad.
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:51:38pm |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
You got any funny jewish merchant jokes?
Yes. Will I ever share or repeat them? No.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:52:18pm |
re: #329 Reginald Perrin
I would pat $2000 dollars to have my picture taken with Sara Palin*
..
* if I was allowed to wear an "I'm with stupid" sweatshirt.
LOL! (for real, it was quite funny.)
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:52:21pm |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
Recycle? I just read over the comment on the overnight thread on about this joke, and I noticed that there was a lot of agreement that this joke was just a off-the-cuff bit of humor, so, why not.
You got any funny jewish merchant jokes?
How many fictional Jewish Merchants does it take to make a jackass out of an NSA spokesman?
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ShaunP Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:53:17pm |
re: #335 cliffster
How many fictional Jewish Merchants does it take to make a jackass out of an NSA spokesman?
None! They don't need no stinkin' Jewish merchants!
////
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:54:18pm |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
Recycle? I just read over the comment on the overnight thread on about this joke, and I noticed that there was a lot of agreement that this joke was just a off-the-cuff bit of humor, so, why not.
You got any funny jewish merchant jokes?
OK so the CFO of Goldman Sachs walks into the White house...
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What, me worry? Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:54:24pm |
re: #317 CuriousLurker
I guess now it's all about change/counter-change. Or something. The whole thing is really weird to me. I mean, America is still here. No black helicopters have landed, no political prisoners have been arrested and carted away to FEMA internment camps, no children have been forced to attend re-education programs, POTUS hasn't declared that God is dead (commie) or instituted shariah (seekret Kenyan Moosilim). So...? I don't get what all the drama & panic is about. It just doesn't compute.
I that Moderate Republicans still exist and hopefully when election time rolls around shortly, they'll come out and vote out the far right folks who want to move the country in unhealthy directions. It's those far right folks, I guess they're social conservatives? who frighten me. Rubio and Hayworth are two running for senate seats.
Remember that from early on, as soon as Obama became a prospect, he was touted as a FARRRR left liberal which was a load of horse puckey from the get go. But that and other things have stuck to him.
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What, me worry? Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:56:21pm |
re: #338 marjoriemoon
I that Moderate Republicans still exist and hopefully when election time rolls around shortly, they'll come out and vote out the far right folks who want to move the country in unhealthy directions. It's those far right folks, I guess they're social conservatives? who frighten me. Rubio and Hayworth are two running for senate seats.
Remember that from early on, as soon as Obama became a prospect, he was touted as a FARRR left liberal which was a load of horse puckey from the get go. But that and other things have stuck to him.
Forgive my multiple typos... I'm unwinding from an aggravating day and not paying close attention :)
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darthstar Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:58:54pm |
re: #338 marjoriemoon
I that Moderate Republicans still exist and hopefully when election time rolls around shortly, they'll come out and vote out the far right folks who want to move the country in unhealthy directions. It's those far right folks, I guess they're social conservatives? who frighten me. Rubio and Hayworth are two running for senate seats.
Remember that from early on, as soon as Obama became a prospect, he was touted as a FARRR left liberal which was a load of horse puckey from the get go. But that and other things have stuck to him.
In 2004, John Kerry was called "the most liberal Senator"...so of course that label was passed on to Barack Obama in 2008...only it didn't work this time. America is seeing how inaccurate that claim is, and I think this will be reflected in November, when the great political shift doesn't happen as big as it's predicted (regardless of how much the 'liberal media' tries to make it happen).
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 4:59:49pm |
Wait if we're bored, I have a premise to explore.
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:01:09pm |
re: #341 windsagio
Part of me is tempted to think you're fishing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:01:56pm |
re: #339 marjoriemoon
Let me tell you about my aggravating day...
Had to drive to Richmond, VA... 3 hours. Precisely halfway there... got a call from the boss' assistant telling to turn around and go home. I need to be home all week for stuff back there.
I was the most pissed 'cause he didn't have the guts to call me and had his minion do it for him.
Minion was talking back and forth with the boss while he was talking to me.
Boss could've called me.
Prick.
BUT, I'M NOT BITTER!
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CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:02:14pm |
re: #338 marjoriemoon
I that Moderate Republicans still exist and hopefully when election time rolls around shortly, they'll come out and vote out the far right folks who want to move the country in unhealthy directions. It's those far right folks, I guess they're social conservatives? who frighten me. Rubio and Hayworth are two running for senate seats.
I know moderate (read calm, rational) Republicans are out there, but their voices aren't getting heard, or maybe they're just getting shouted down. For all our sakes I truly hope they can figure out a way to regain control of the GOP before the next election rolls around. Either that or I hope they all go independent.
Remember that from early on, as soon as Obama became a prospect, he was touted as a FARRR left liberal which was a load of horse puckey from the get go. But that and other things have stuck to him.
I agree. Obama never struck me as being way far left.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:02:19pm |
re: #341 windsagio
Wait if we're bored, I have a premise to explore.
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I'd have to say "Don't go there".
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:02:54pm |
re: #341 windsagio
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
Well, not because of you.
/
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:03:23pm |
re: #342 JasonA
I'm specifically fishing. People were looking for something to fight about upthread a bit.
Something to fight about, no? >>
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:03:54pm |
re: #347 windsagio
I sense much anger in you...
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:03:57pm |
re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Let me tell you about my aggravating day...
Had to drive to Richmond, VA... 3 hours. Precisely halfway there... got a call from the boss' assistant telling to turn around and go home. I need to be home all week for stuff back there.
I was the most pissed 'cause he didn't have the guts to call me and had his minion do it for him.
Minion was talking back and forth with the boss while he was talking to me.
Boss could've called me.
Prick.
BUT, I'M NOT BITTER!
that what minions are for... don't be a hater, minions need to eat too.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:04:04pm |
re: #335 cliffster
How many fictional Jewish Merchants does it take to make a jackass out of an NSA spokesman?
Come on... is that the best you can do... hit me with your best jewish merchant joke...
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:04:06pm |
re: #347 windsagio
That being said, I'll be totally content to have... NOBODY take up that subject ;)
Its more a 'be careful what you ask for' thing >>
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:06:11pm |
re: #351 windsagio
Well, you ask about people who we think would flounce if not for the sense of community here, but without that what is there?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:06:37pm |
re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Let me tell you about my aggravating day...
Had to drive to Richmond, VA... 3 hours. Precisely halfway there... got a call from the boss' assistant telling to turn around and go home. I need to be home all week for stuff back there.
I was the most pissed 'cause he didn't have the guts to call me and had his minion do it for him.
Minion was talking back and forth with the boss while he was talking to me.
Boss could've called me.
Prick.
BUT, I'M NOT BITTER!
I had my own irritation. Got downtown on my way to an interview, got on the Blue Line with enough time to get to the Forest Park end of the line and catch a bus. The CTA had trains on both tracks at Forest Park, forcing the train I was on to wait for one of them to clear. Result: I got to watch the bus I needed pull out of the station without me and then had to pay $25 dollars for a cab to make my interview. But I aced the interview. Not sure yet about the position. It's not what I'd ideally like, but unlike that offer last month the owner was very honest and upfront. That leads me to be better disposed towards him and his company.
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What, me worry? Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:06:52pm |
re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Let me tell you about my aggravating day...
Had to drive to Richmond, VA... 3 hours. Precisely halfway there... got a call from the boss' assistant telling to turn around and go home. I need to be home all week for stuff back there.
I was the most pissed 'cause he didn't have the guts to call me and had his minion do it for him.
Minion was talking back and forth with the boss while he was talking to me.
Boss could've called me.
Prick.
BUT, I'M NOT BITTER!
lol I love you.
And at least I didn't have to drive anywhere.
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windsagio Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:07:18pm |
re: #353 JasonA
Our hosts' excellent writing, the general high quality of commentators on here.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:07:18pm |
re: #341 windsagio
Wait if we're bored, I have a premise to explore.
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I reject the premise. 1.) Plenty of flouncers made noise about how important the community was to them. 2.) Plenty of people with views the popularity of which has swung wildly are still here without regard to the importance of the community.
I'm going to leave the awkward wording of 2.) because it seems appropriate.
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:08:21pm |
Can't say my day's been all that eventful or irritating. Just a lot of waiting for Windows to fully update on a new hard drive. If I believed in a god I'd thank him for giving me a metric f*ckton of patience.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:08:28pm |
re: #341 windsagio
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
It is a very good thing. LGF wouldn't be what it is without the spirited debate and hilarious comments that are a result of a lizard becoming temporarily unhinged.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:09:36pm |
In fact, "the community" is so important to many of the flouncers that they are trying to replicate it all over the inter tubes. Quite hilarious, actually.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:09:36pm |
re: #341 windsagio
Wait if we're bored, I have a premise to explore.
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I think it's a good thing. There are people here whose attitudes I dislike and whose politics I strongly disagree with, but if one of them was fixing to get hit by a bus I wouldn't think twice about trying to save them. I like to think that the people who feel the same towards my attitude & politics would do the same.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:09:54pm |
re: #358 JasonA
Can't say my day's been all that eventful or irritating. Just a lot of waiting for Windows to fully update on a new hard drive. If I believed in a god I'd thank him for giving me a metric f*ckton of patience.
Windows 7?
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:10:00pm |
re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Let me tell you about my aggravating day...
Had to drive to Richmond, VA... 3 hours. Precisely halfway there... got a call from the boss' assistant telling to turn around and go home. I need to be home all week for stuff back there.
I was the most pissed 'cause he didn't have the guts to call me and had his minion do it for him.
Minion was talking back and forth with the boss while he was talking to me.
Boss could've called me.
Prick.
BUT, I'M NOT BITTER!
Someday, you'll have a minion of your very own.
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What, me worry? Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:10:40pm |
re: #344 CuriousLurker
I agree. Obama never struck me as being way far left.
Actually, he's been a little too Right for some of the Left particularly with the war and gitmo. It's not closed yet I don't think.
Compare someone like Kucinich who would have brought every last solider home and as much as I don't like this war, that's not the answer.
The rest I don't know. We'll see. It's depressing.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:10:42pm |
re: #354 Dark_Falcon
I hope it works out for you!
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:10:42pm |
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:11:47pm |
11-Year-Old Mexican 'Rape' Victim Wants to Keep Baby
Why is Fox News putting the word rape in quotes?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:11:56pm |
re: #359 Reginald Perrin
It is a very good thing. LGF wouldn't be what it is without the spirited debate and hilarious comments that are a result of a lizard becoming temporarily unhinged.
Wait, it was only temporary?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:12:01pm |
re: #266 brookly red
or some people just think his policies sux...
Yeah, but those people usually talk about his policies, and are seldom wearing teabags wrapped around their ears.
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:12:12pm |
re: #362 HoosierHoops
Windows 7?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I wish.
I have a nearly 5 year-old rig. Had to replace the motherboard last year, too. Gave me an excuse to get a new case, though. No, this is good ole XP I'm using right here.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:12:33pm |
re: #360 wrenchwench
In fact, "the community" is so important to many of the flouncers that they are trying to replicate it all over the inter tubes. Quite hilarious, actually.
Good luck without my handsome ass...
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:13:33pm |
re: #367 goddamnedfrank
Why is Fox News putting the word rape in quotes?
Because it hasn't been ascertained that she has been raped. Her claim has yet to be proved in a court of law.
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:13:42pm |
re: #367 goddamnedfrank
Why is Fox News putting the word rape in quotes?
They're demanding to see the long form before they accept it?
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:13:44pm |
re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Good luck without my handsome ass...
And the rest of you isn't that bad either.
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CuriousLurker Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:13:45pm |
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:14:03pm |
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:14:19pm |
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:14:46pm |
re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, but those people usually talk about his policies, and are seldom wearing teabags wrapped around their ears.
/look when they sling rifles you complain... when they sling teabags you complain, there is no pleasing some people :)
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brookly red Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:15:40pm |
re: #372 researchok
Because it hasn't been ascertained that she has been raped. Her claim has yet to be proved in a court of law.
she is 11... even in Mexico that is to young to consent.
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Reginald Perrin Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:15:53pm |
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garhighway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:16:24pm |
re: #372 researchok
Because it hasn't been ascertained that she has been raped. Her claim has yet to be proved in a court of law.
Thought experiment: if the victim was a 21 year old blond, would rape be in quotes?
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:17:11pm |
re: #381 garhighway
Thought experiment: if the victim was a 21 year old blond, would rape be in quotes?
Is she cute?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:17:44pm |
re: #273 Lidane
I can't decide if this is insane, hilarious, or ballsy:
California woman charged with moving into, claiming Lolo home she didn't own
Story from about ten years ago in the San Francisco papers: a woman was living in an apartment in San Francisco that had hookups for a gas stove, but no stove. She apparently drove out to some empty military housing on Treasure Island, broke into one of the houses under cover of darkness and removed the stove from the unit, then drove back to the City with it.
She neglected to turn off the gas feed, however. Gas continued to build up in the house until some time in the early morning, when the heating system clicked on, and there was an earth-shattering KABOOM. Or at least a KABOOM loud enough that an MP drove down the hill to see what the hell that was.
The firemen were called, and the house was put out without too much damage.
The lady who took the stove was tracked to her home in SF. She'd installed the stove. Incorrectly. They apparently got to her not too long before her home would also have gone KABOOM.
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cliffster Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:17:59pm |
re: #381 garhighway
Thought experiment: if the victim was a 21 year old blond, would rape be in quotes?
Another thought experiment: if this were being aired on MSNBC, would you still be upset about the quotes?
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:18:08pm |
re: #379 brookly red
she is 11... even in Mexico that is to young to consent.
Of course. The allegation against her father though is what is still not clear.
What if it was really the 12 year old kid next door?
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garhighway Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:18:53pm |
re: #384 cliffster
Another thought experiment: if this were being aired on MSNBC, would you still be upset about the quotes?
Yes.
But that is a most unlikely scenario.
As is the use of quotes in my hypothetical.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:19:21pm |
re: #275 Walter L. Newton
Why would he apologize about this... was anyone really bothered by this... ? I was at a 8 hour training session so I don't know if anyone saw this?
Jones apologizes for joke about Jewish merchant
[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]
We've chewed it over, and most people seem to feel it was nothing much. I'm mildly offended by it, simply because it makes no sense in context, and I'm sick of dumbass Jewish jokes in general.
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:19:23pm |
re: #381 garhighway
Thought experiment: if the victim was a 21 year old blond, would rape be in quotes?
I think the issue is about the who did it, not the act.
For example, if it really was the 12 year old next door, while it is rape, it's also a whole other can of worms.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:19:42pm |
re: #350 Walter L. Newton
Come on... is that the best you can do... hit me with your best jewish merchant joke...
How do you make a Venetian Jewish merchant blind?
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:20:23pm |
re: #383 SanFranciscoZionist
Story from about ten years ago in the San Francisco papers: a woman was living in an apartment in San Francisco that had hookups for a gas stove, but no stove. She apparently drove out to some empty military housing on Treasure Island, broke into one of the houses under cover of darkness and removed the stove from the unit, then drove back to the City with it.
She neglected to turn off the gas feed, however. Gas continued to build up in the house until some time in the early morning, when the heating system clicked on, and there was an earth-shattering KABOOM. Or at least a KABOOM loud enough that an MP drove down the hill to see what the hell that was.
The firemen were called, and the house was put out without too much damage.
The lady who took the stove was tracked to her home in SF. She'd installed the stove. Incorrectly. They apparently got to her not too long before her home would also have gone KABOOM.
Murphy lives.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:20:54pm |
re: #286 Obdicut
If people were able to demonstrate they actually knew what his policies were, I'd believe it was because they felt that they sucked.
Many people can, and in those cases I believe them.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:21:17pm |
re: #370 JasonA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I wish.
I have a nearly 5 year-old rig. Had to replace the motherboard last year, too. Gave me an excuse to get a new case, though. No, this is good ole XP I'm using right here.
XP is a good OS for old rigs...I can't say much..But our Company is having an issue with Microsoft..The upgrade path from XP to Windows 7 is all fucked up..
There is a war going on in the background..And our CIO is leading the charge.
It is going down..But I can't say much yet...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:21:27pm |
re: #385 researchok
Of course. The allegation against her father though is what is still not clear.
What if it was really the 12 year old kid next door?
It looks like it was her stepfather, though. The only reason I can figure Fox put it in quotes is that he has not been convicted yet.
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researchok Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:21:53pm |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
It looks like it was her stepfather, though. The only reason I can figure Fox put it in quotes is that he has not been convicted yet.
Agreed.
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Gus Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:22:45pm |
re: #350 Walter L. Newton
Come on... is that the best you can do... hit me with your best jewish merchant joke...
Since you seem to be interested in this "joke" that NSA adviser James Jones blurted out I thought I would try and search for some origins of the joke.
I was able to locate one back to Mr. Bagel Funnies dated June 24, 2007 at Mr. Bagel Funnies. He was the winner of "Jewish & Israeli Blog Awards ~ 2007 Best of the Rest."
He hat tips a website called Jewlarious and the there you can find the same joke which was submitted by Moshe Miller. Jewlarious is part of Aish International ("Aish HaTorah, founded in Jerusalem by Rabbi Noah Weinberg in 1974, is dedicated to revitalizing the Jewish people by providing opportunities for Jews of all backgrounds to discover their heritage in an atmosphere of open inquiry and mutual respect.")
The joke also made the round at some Christian and gun forums. The joke originally used al Qaeda in place of Taliban.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:24:38pm |
re: #303 Liberal Classic
Is it possible to object to the direction of Obama's proposed changes without being labeled a "teabagger"? Please?
Probably.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:25:06pm |
re: #303 Liberal Classic
Is it possible to object to the direction of Obama's proposed changes without being labeled a "teabagger"? Please?
Actually wear teabags, however, especially on your ears, and you're a teabagger. Sorry.
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:26:29pm |
re: #382 JasonA
Oh screw you all with the downdings. It's a commentary on our journalistic integrity, not whether or not it should be considered rape.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:27:41pm |
re: #304 ausador
Naw, it isn't that the "majority" voted for him, how could the majority possibly vote for a Kenyan, Muslim, Ni**er? They know, just know deep down in their tiny cold hearts, that really it was just because of massive and widespread multi-state voter fraud by ACORN!
/yeah, that has to be it!
(your taking about freepers and their kin here, actual facts mean nothing...sigh)
The idea that he was actually voted in by a majority of voters appears to be a hard one for some of these guys to tackle. I can sort of understand that. I do recall, in 2004, saying, 'who ARE these people?', meaning those who had reelected Bush, so I can see how it's sometimes hard to envision the 'other' voters. But still, there seems to be very little understanding among the crazier folks that lazy greedy leftist extremists alone cannot put a president into office.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:28:00pm |
re: #396 Gus 802
That makes slightly more sense, since, like I said in the overnight thread, there's only one Jew in Afghanistan.
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wrenchwench Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:28:26pm |
re: #399 JasonA
Oh screw you all with the downdings. It's a commentary on our journalistic integrity, not whether or not it should be considered rape.
Well, I hadn't dinged you down yet, but if you can't see the way it looks to other people, maybe I'll go ahead and do it. A few extra words of explanation wouldn't hurt.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:28:41pm |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
$2000 for a photo with the Twit? I'd pay $3000 (if I had it) to throw tomatoes at her instead.
/mostly kidding
Don't do it, D_F. You'd be labeled a liberal infiltrator, and I know you'd hate that.
/
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:28:41pm |
re: #388 researchok
I think the issue is about the who did it, not the act.
For example, if it really was the 12 year old next door, while it is rape, it's also a whole other can of worms.
Fine, but the article headline has nothing whatsoever to do with the stepfather's presumption of innocence. The way they did it, putting rape in quotes, casts baseless doubt on the principle that an eleven year old pregnant girl cannot possibly give consent. It just seems like such a strange thing to do.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:29:25pm |
re: #311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Need some evolution and global warming threads, maybe something on the Confederacy, to get thing riled up.
We haven't had an evolution thread in AGES. I liked them. Unlike the AGW threads, I can mostly understand the science involved, at least in a sort of general way.
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Four More Tears Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:30:57pm |
re: #402 wrenchwench
Well, I hadn't dinged you down yet, but if you can't see the way it looks to other people, maybe I'll go ahead and do it. A few extra words of explanation wouldn't hurt.
Eh, the thread of the conversation was pretty clearly talking about the headlines and how such a story would be presented.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:16pm |
re: #317 CuriousLurker
I guess now it's all about change/counter-change. Or something. The whole thing is really weird to me. I mean, America is still here. No black helicopters have landed, no political prisoners have been arrested and carted away to FEMA internment camps, no children have been forced to attend re-education programs, POTUS hasn't declared that God is dead (commie) or instituted shariah (seekret Kenyan Moosilim). So...? I don't get what all the drama & panic is about. It just doesn't compute.
Well, for one thing, I think the crazier people out there believe that horrible stuff IS happening, and that worse stuff will happen any minute. Some of them also believe that only their vehement protests are STOPPING stuff from happening.
I'm thinking of the amazing Cynthia McKinney spiel about the 5,000 prisoners Bush murdered. This didn't happen, by any reasonable standard of proof, and also, in fact. But I'm sure there are people out there who believe it still, and would find me quite naive for not believing it.
And so it goes.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:22pm |
re: #404 goddamnedfrank
Fine, but the article headline has nothing whatsoever to do with the stepfather's presumption of innocence. The way they did it, putting rape in quotes, casts baseless doubt on the principle that an eleven year old pregnant girl cannot possibly give consent. It just seems like such a strange thing to do.
True. In this case, I'm going to assume it was a minor lapse in judgment .
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Liberal Classic Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:51pm |
re: #322 marjoriemoon
I was referring to several groups of people who don't have (IMO) good ideas of change. Teabaggers are one of those people. Although I do believe there are places where government regulation is not terribly effective (war on drugs comes to mind) and other areas where we could use more help.
I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. Personally, I hate getting lumped in with creationists theocrats, or gay-bashers, or anti-immigrant race-baiters, or anti-Israel conspiracy-theorists. I'm right with you on the prohibition of drugs. On the other hand, I'm probably not with you on some other things, and if I didn't bother to qualify myself otherwise, I'd probably get lumped into your teabag category.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:33:52pm |
re: #401 Obdicut
That makes slightly more sense, since, like I said in the overnight thread, there's only one Jew in Afghanistan.
If you are a Jew in Afghanistan you damn well be controlling the heroin trade routes and paying off the Taliban under the table.Otherwise..You are pretty much fucked.. There is no mercy there..only money and drugs..
Sad to say..wishful to be proved wrong
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:34:58pm |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
Recycle? I just read over the comment on the overnight thread on about this joke, and I noticed that there was a lot of agreement that this joke was just a off-the-cuff bit of humor, so, why not.
You got any funny jewish merchant jokes?
I have a funny Jewish-guy-giving directions joke. You want it in the original Old West version, or the Crusades-era version I developed for the SCA?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:35:37pm |
re: #336 ShaunP
None! They don't need no stinkin' Jewish merchants!
///
Good, cause they're down to one Jew in Afghanistan.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:36:38pm |
re: #341 windsagio
Wait if we're bored, I have a premise to explore.
"People who only haven't flounced because the community is too important to them, regardless of their beliefs"
The question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I don't care why you're here as long as you don't act like an asshole.
This is the word of the SFZ.
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Gus Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:36:43pm |
re: #401 Obdicut
That makes slightly more sense, since, like I said in the overnight thread, there's only one Jew in Afghanistan.
The curious part is how the "conservatives" will try and use this joke as some kind of "proof" about something or another. Well, I'm pretty sure you know what I mean. I've seen it already while search for this joke.
So, look like it also made the rounds "before they were against it" at:
The Conservative View - scroll down to the middle and
World Net Daily - Joke of the Day
Cached links here.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:38:13pm |
re: #414 Gus 802
The curious part is how the "conservatives" will try and use this joke as some kind of "proof" about something or another. Well, I'm pretty sure you know what I mean. I've seen it already while search for this joke.
So, look like it also made the rounds "before they were against it" at:
The Conservative View - scroll down to the middle and
World Net Daily - Joke of the Day
Cached links here.
Who made anything of it? Who was against it? I thought the joke was really funny.
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Gus Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:41:35pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:43:00pm |
re: #367 goddamnedfrank
Why is Fox News putting the word rape in quotes?
Possibly because the rapist hasn't been convicted, but given that she's eleven, I'm sayin', go for it. It's not like they're all that into the frickin' legal niceties anyway.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:43:54pm |
re: #372 researchok
Because it hasn't been ascertained that she has been raped. Her claim has yet to be proved in a court of law.
There is such a word as 'alleged' in English. The quotes are distinctly hostile.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:45:04pm |
re: #384 cliffster
Another thought experiment: if this were being aired on MSNBC, would you still be upset about the quotes?
I'd be pissed, yes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 26, 2010 5:51:13pm |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
It looks like it was her stepfather, though. The only reason I can figure Fox put it in quotes is that he has not been convicted yet.
I'm sure that's why, it just carries a really unfortunate connotation. They should edit the headline.
Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory Just Captured Ominous Signals About the Planet’s Health Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory just captured an ominous sign about the pace of global warming. Atmospheric levels of planet-warming carbon dioxide aren’t just on their way to yet another record high this year - they’re rising faster than ever, ...
Cheechako
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Trump’s “Stolen Election” Lie Based on Evidence From Pervy Bathroom Cam-Spy OK, this really takes the cake. If you have relatives that still cling to the “election was stolen, dadgum, I jes’ KNOW IT … This should be a slight remedy to the stubborn madness Thanks to online anonymity, the ...
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Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
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Gateway Pundit, Sued by Election Workers, Declares BankruptcyA onetime favorite, now just pathetic figure around these parts, Jim Hoft aka SMOTI ("Stupidest Man On The Internet"), has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in response to the defamation lawsuits filed against him to the same election workers that ... Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
