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1 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:40:01pm |
Why the demand to grant due process to an active terrorist is absurd and impossible http://t.co/ftO3u2mzAO— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 11, 2014
2 | klys Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:44:42pm |
New IUD: completely covered by insurance. Insertion: completely covered by insurance. Removal of old IUD: considered “outpatient surgery” and so covered at 90% after deductible.
This is a pretty good example of what is still pretty fucked up about our healthcare system.
3 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:46:40pm |
Active terrorists are entitled to the same due process as anyone else, after they surrender.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 11, 2014
Before active terrorists surrender, the government has a duty to do everything possible to stop them.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 11, 2014
4 | Lidane Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:47:39pm |
Gays Have Ruined Sports For Fox News Contributor Todd Starnes http://t.co/zRSi9i9m62 #HA!— john craig (@coldandnervous) February 11, 2014
5 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:50:16pm |
I think the government should try to stop people who have the intent and ability to commit mass murder, but maybe that's just me.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 11, 2014
6 | Chrysicat Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:50:45pm |
I posted a response to that comment about the gun-nuts being outgunned in the downstairs thread. Is this the best way to mention it, or should I have submitted a very similar post in thist thread?
7 | Justanotherhuman Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:51:16pm |
8 | The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:51:55pm |
9 | Chrysicat Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:53:26pm |
@Green_Footballs Didn't MOST of the ppl (ie NOT @ggreenwald) who're opposed to droning under this admin say just that under the prev one?— Chrysi Cat (@chrysicat) February 11, 2014
10 | Stanley Sea Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:53:43pm |
First world problem here. Walking Dead is not showing up On Demand.
I hate Time Warner along with every other freaking monopoly I’m stuck with.
FUCK.
(thanks for letting me type that, I’m alone and you are my designated victims of vent)
12 | EPR-radar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:01:51pm |
re: #10 Stanley Sea
First world problem here. Walking Dead is not showing up On Demand.
I hate Time Warner along with every other freaking monopoly I’m stuck with.
FUCK.
(thanks for letting me type that, I’m alone and you are my designated victims of vent)
That is unpossible!! There are no monopolies. Only the blessings of the free market and the Golden Bull Market of Prosperity Gospel Jayzus for everyone.
13 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:03:00pm |
In the battle between entropy and order, I choose order. So sue me.
14 | Eclectic Cyborg Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:07:28pm |
‘Dumb Starbucks’ opens in L.A., but for how long?
Over the weekend, Dumb Starbucks, a coffee shop using virtually identical branding and logos to that of coffee colossus Starbucks opened up in Los Angeles. Even though on every level it operates as just another java joint, the operators believe (or at least claim to believe) that they can use the Starbucks name by stating that the entire store is a parody.
15 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:07:28pm |
re: #10 Stanley Sea
First world problem here. Walking Dead is not showing up On Demand.
I hate Time Warner along with every other freaking monopoly I’m stuck with.
FUCK.
(thanks for letting me type that, I’m alone and you are my designated victims of vent)
AMC doesn’t make it easy to find but I think you can watch full episodes online amctv.com
16 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:09:40pm |
re: #13 Charles Johnson
In the battle between entropy and order, I choose order. So sue me.
I’m down with entropy
Youtube Video
17 | b.d. Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:10:12pm |
Why doesn’t the USA just cancel that guy’s passport? Dudebros tell me no one can go anywhere without a US passport.
18 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:11:49pm |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
I’m down with entropy too, until they start fighting. Then I’m outta there.
19 | Stanley Sea Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:12:14pm |
20 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:12:47pm |
@Green_Footballs Yep & #Emotarians & other subspecies like #Greenwaldians, would totally freak if 1 of those terrorists bombed their spa.— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) February 11, 2014
21 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:16:56pm |
22 | Chrysicat Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:18:55pm |
re: #21 Shiplord Kirel
Which would work fine if not for the little issue that the name’s a shot across the bow of even-the-average-Angelino’s perception of actors as the dimmest bulbs on the continent :-P
23 | wheat-dogghazi Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:22:51pm |
re: #20 Charles Johnson
I like this term, “emotarians.” Conjures up images of skinny teenage boys wearing T-shirts, skinny jeans, and black eyeliner, hunched over their computers with cigarettes dangling from their mouths.
24 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:23:40pm |
re: #19 Stanley Sea
Thanks Kilgore!
No problem. They really hide it on their website. I was stealing episodes for a long tie until I finally found them on the AMC site.
25 | bratwurst Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:23:41pm |
Three words for Bob Costas: Daft Punk helmet.— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) February 11, 2014
26 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:27:28pm |
27 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:27:57pm |
A few new little tidbits on the drone story but still no explanation why this is playing out in the press.
U.S. Suspect Possibly Targeted for Drone Attack
The CIA drones watching him cannot strike because he’s a U.S. citizen and the Justice Department must build a case against him, a task it hasn’t completed.
Four U.S. officials said the American suspected terrorist is in a country that refuses U.S. military action on its soil and that has proved unable to go after him. And President Barack Obama’s new policy says American suspected terrorists overseas can only be killed by the military, not the CIA, creating a policy conundrum for the White House.
Two of the officials described the man as an al-Qaeda facilitator who has been directly responsible for deadly attacks against U.S. citizens overseas and who continues to plan attacks against them that would use improvised explosive devices.
But one U.S. official said the Defense Department was divided over whether the man is dangerous enough to merit the potential domestic fallout of killing an American without charging him with a crime or trying him, and the potential international fallout of such an operation in a country that has been resistant to U.S. action.
Another of the U.S. officials said the Pentagon did ultimately decide to recommend lethal action.
The officials said the suspected terrorist is well-guarded and in a fairly remote location, so any unilateral attempt by U.S. troops to capture him would be risky and even more politically explosive than a U.S. missile strike.
28 | klys Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:28:50pm |
Yes. For those asking, we have contacted @usahockey Womens team to see if any goal scorers are available. pic.twitter.com/VzNPbyKtpz— LA Kings (@LAKings) February 10, 2014
29 | prairiefire Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:33:29pm |
Cost for emergency pediatric appendectomy after discounts, deductibles and insurance payments ~ $5,000.
My husband is wandering around in a stupor.
30 | klys Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:35:03pm |
re: #29 prairiefire
Cost for emergency pediatric appendectomy after discounts, deductibles and insurance payments ~ $5,000.
My husband is wandering around in a stupor.
Ugh. :( I wish that number was 0.
31 | GeneJockey Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:51:22pm |
re: #29 prairiefire
Cost for emergency pediatric appendectomy after discounts, deductibles and insurance payments ~ $5,000.
My husband is wandering around in a stupor.
No surprise. My wife’s BC surgery back in Aught-4 happened in November, then chemo was in December and January, and radiation was after that. We ended up maxing out our per-person out-of-pocket two years in a row, on one thing.,
32 | Kragar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:53:51pm |
You know, when a US citizen actively plans to engage in terrorist attacks killing his fellow Americans and relocates to a country hostile to the US to make it harder to get to him, its almost like he’s trying to not willing to obey US laws anymore.
Who would have thunk it?
33 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:55:35pm |
re: #29 prairiefire
Cost for emergency pediatric appendectomy after discounts, deductibles and insurance payments ~ $5,000.
My husband is wandering around in a stupor.
This is why we must get this nation on Single Payer.
34 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 6:56:22pm |
Funny, I don’t remember Miley saying EVERYBODY MUST TWERK, AND WHOEVER DOESN’T TWERK IS GOING TO HELL!!!!
RT @mikandynothem: GREAT point! #truth #tcot #tgdn #lnyhbt #pjnet #tlot pic.twitter.com/xh0SYCKVmo— Buckhead Cigar(TM) (@Buckheadcigar) February 11, 2014
35 | Decatur Deb Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:02:13pm |
re: #32 Kragar
You know, when a US citizen actively plans to engage in terrorist attacks killing his fellow Americans and relocates to a country hostile to the US to make it harder to get to him, its almost like he’s trying to not willing to obey US laws anymore.
Who would have thunk it?
Spent some time today digging on the citizenship status of the 300,000 or so Americans killed in the Civil War. That comparison is weakened by genuine disagreement over their exact status. A better comparison might be the hundreds of US citizens of German, Italian, and Japanese extraction who found their way back to the Old Country to fight against us in WWII. They generated no absurd calls for ‘due process on the battlefield’.
36 | William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:02:47pm |
re: #34 Pie-onist Overlord
Funny, I don’t remember Miley saying EVERYBODY MUST TWERK, AND WHOEVER DOESN’T TWERK IS GOING TO HELL!!!!
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I’m even more sick of certain people saying that’s the only kind and way of prayer that’s acceptable to the Lord.
37 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:09:54pm |
“How Business Works”
Notice how they never cut CEO pay
Choom! RT @momoishere: How Business Works vs How Govt Works pic.twitter.com/1ZHC4q0l3Y @WilliamCWarren cartoon #TGDN #LNYHBT #TCOT #C2GTHR— Dale (@Dbargen) February 11, 2014
38 | jaunte Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:16:13pm |
39 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:18:02pm |
HURR HURR!!!!!!! TEH BLAHS IS TEH REAL RACISTSSSSSS!!!!!!
Its a mainstay of their economy. RT @momoishere: The real history of #slavery pic.twitter.com/VkBhxq1LKN #TCOT #C2GTHR #LNYHBT #TGDN— Dale (@Dbargen) February 11, 2014
40 | b_sharp Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:18:40pm |
re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord
“How Business Works”
Notice how they never cut CEO pay[Embedded content]
The government isn’t a business, nor should it be. Businesses try to maximize profits, governments try to maximize equal opportunity and care for those who need it.
41 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:18:45pm |
re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord
“How Business Works”
Notice how they never cut CEO pay[Embedded content]
Yeah, those “tough calls” never involved exec pay cuts, holding back bonuses, or asking higher-paid execs to retire or look for employment elsewhere. No, they’ve “earned” all that and are “entitled” to it.
Meanwhile, Wal-Mart’s response to these “tough times” has been to cut pay, cut hours, and to cut jobs. Costco’s has been to keep pay high and offer generous benefits to its employees. The former is losing customers because it can’t keep shelves stocked or lines short, while the latter just posted sales 6% above the previous year.
Obviously the answer needed in these dire times is to follow the example of the Waltons.
42 | Romantic Heretic Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:19:05pm |
re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord
“How Business Works”
Notice how they never cut CEO pay[Embedded content]
You also note they never say things like, “We will improve our products and services to sell more of them.”
43 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:19:45pm |
HURR HURRRR!!!!!
Here's @ggreenwald explaining why we used “assassination” not “targeted killing” in our drone strikes report: http://t.co/tSGqnqnpqZ #NSA— The Intercept (@the_intercept) February 11, 2014
44 | jaunte Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:21:31pm |
re: #42 Romantic Heretic
You also note they never say things like, “We will improve our products and services to sell more of them.”
Walmart’s continual price-cutting strategy for years has been to demand price cuts from its suppliers, resulting in poorer quality products made by the cheapest labor possible.
45 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:22:59pm |
Yay for equal pay!
Mary Barra will receive $14.4 Million.
46 | RadicalModerate Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:24:52pm |
re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord
“How Business Works”
Notice how they never cut CEO pay[Embedded content]
Dale -
Greece called. They said your your economic plan sucks.
47 | Belafon Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:32:54pm |
re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord
Yes, political correctess must die. It’s time we stopped whitewashing just how cruel southern whites were, and how far they were willing to go to maintain slavery.
48 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:34:41pm |
Wal-Mart’s learning the lesson that a lot of businesses learned during the Great Depression: You can only cut your workforce so far before it becomes self-defeating. The fewer folks you have on the line, the less work that can be done, the fewer customers served, the lower sales you’re going to record. Sales go down, you cut your workforce, and the cycle only deepens.
49 | RadicalModerate Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:34:51pm |
re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!!!!! TEH BLAHS IS TEH REAL RACISTSSSSSS!!!!!!
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Slave nations of the Barbary coast (who engaged in slave trade):
Morocco, Algiers, Tunisia, Libya.
All of which have about 98% Arab-Berber ethnic populations, not “Africans”.
And all of which were driven by outlaw pirate activity in the area - not government sanctioned as was the case in the United States.
51 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:35:08pm |
NYT names the country:U.S. Debates Drone Strike on American Terror Suspect in Pakistan
A
merican officials said that the new discussions about whether to strike the American in Pakistan had been going on since the middle of last year. The public got a glimpse of the debate last week when Representative Mike Rogers of Michigan, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, spoke angrily about the drone restrictions imposed by Mr. Obama.
“Individuals who would have been previously removed from the battlefield by U.S. counterterrorism operations for attacking or plotting to attack against U.S. interests remain free because of self-imposed red tape,” Mr. Rogers said during a congressional hearing.
The new rules, Mr. Rogers said, are “endangering the lives of Americans at home and our military overseas in a way that is frustrating to our allies and frustrating to those of us who engage in the oversight of our classified activities.”
…..
The administration’s ambivalence on this case has infuriated Mr. Rogers. “The chairman is fired up about this,” the congressional aide said.The aide also confirmed that the Defense Department was initially reluctant to place the individual on the targeting list, questioning whether he met the new standards that Mr. Obama laid out last May. But eventually the Pentagon came around, said the aide, who added that the C.I.A. had supported a lethal strike from the beginning.
This opens up some new possibilities. The debate has been going on over a year. The CIA and Pentagon want a strike but the White house is unsure. This also opens up the possibility that the “leaks” were not an intentional thing from the White House to gauge public opinion. This might have been disgruntled Pentagon, CIA or congressional Republicans.
If this dude is still in Pakistan he’s thinking about moving.
52 | Pie-onist Overlord Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:36:50pm |
re: #47 Belafon
Yes, political correctess must die. It’s time we stopped whitewashing just how cruel southern whites were, and how far they were willing to go to maintain slavery.
I’m reading 12 Years A Slave, the annotated edition that goes into the actual historical details.
Horrific stuff. If the movie is faithful to the book it must be pretty grim.
53 | GlutenFreeJesus Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:37:18pm |
re: #27 Killgore Trout
A few new little tidbits on the drone story but still no explanation why this is playing out in the press.
U.S. Suspect Possibly Targeted for Drone Attack
Leak to get him out of hiding… making him feel out of our reach. Hopefully he gets complacent, and then…
54 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:39:29pm |
re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus
Leak to get him out of hiding… making him feel out of our reach. Hopefully he gets complacent, and then…
That’s a possibility. I really hope this isn’t something dumber.
55 | Bubblehead II Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:40:46pm |
Night Lizards. As usual, May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.
56 | Kragar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:43:14pm |
re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord
How does management making 200 times the workers plus exec bonuses figure in? @Dbargen @momoishere @WilliamCWarren— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 11, 2014
57 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:43:41pm |
There are an awful lot of unnamed sources talking to the press about this all of a sudden. Not just a lone whistle blower. It sure looks like a planned “leak” but I find it doubtful that Obama would voluntarily open himself up to the political damage about being indecisive when it comes to eliminating terrorist threats.
59 | sagehen Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:46:06pm |
60 | Rev_Arthur_Belling Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:50:19pm |
re: #43 Pie-onist Overlord
Ugh that photo of GG. Just, ugh. horrible portait work.
61 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:00:37pm |
re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus
Leak to get him out of hiding… making him feel out of our reach. Hopefully he gets complacent, and then…
Or hopefully either get Pakistan to arrest or kill him or get him to leave that country. Striking in Pakistan outside of the tribal areas would open up a pretty nasty can of worms.
62 | sagehen Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:04:28pm |
re: #51 Killgore Trout
NYT names the country:U.S. Debates Drone Strike on American Terror Suspect in Pakistan
A
This opens up some new possibilities. The debate has been going on over a year. The CIA and Pentagon want a strike but the White house is unsure. This also opens up the possibility that the “leaks” were not an intentional thing from the White House to gauge public opinion. This might have been disgruntled Pentagon, CIA or congressional Republicans.
If this dude is still in Pakistan he’s thinking about moving.
The article doesn’t specify — are we to assume they’re talking about Adam Gadahn?
63 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:06:51pm |
re: #62 sagehen
The article doesn’t specify — are we to assume they’re talking about Adam Gadahn?
Gadahn has been on our radar for years, so if DoJ doesn’t have a prepared case against him then someone needs to be demoted.
65 | Killgore Trout Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:09:22pm |
re: #62 sagehen
The article doesn’t specify — are we to assume they’re talking about Adam Gadahn?
That was my first thought too. He does kinda fit the description. I think he would be considered inner circle but not really a commander or strategist. As far as I remember he was just a propagandist but maybe his role has evolved. We haven’t heard from him in quite some time.
66 | sagehen Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:11:34pm |
re: #64 Targetpractice
Different kind of snow angel…
DON’T BLINK!!!!
(how do you make letters bigger?)
67 | Chrysicat Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:14:07pm |
Good Lord. Not only is my father convinced that Obama exempting small businesses from the ACA for another year is an impeachable offense…— Chrysi Cat (@chrysicat) February 11, 2014
He’s even saying race is the only reason the President hasn’t been impeached. For Southern Repubs, you’d think that would be a feature in terms of setting it off, not a bug…
68 | Chrysicat Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:16:35pm |
re: #34 Pie-onist Overlord
Funny, I don’t remember Miley saying EVERYBODY MUST TWERK, AND WHOEVER DOESN’T TWERK IS GOING TO HELL!!!!
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You’re pretty active on Twitter—why didn’t you MT that exact response to him there? :-P
69 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:20:38pm |
re: #67 Chrysicat
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He’s even saying race is the only reason the President hasn’t been impeached. For Southern Repubs, you’d think that would be a featue in terms of setting it off, not a bug…
He’s probably saying it because that’s exactly what Rush the Hutt was saying today, that the only reason the GOP hasn’t impeached the President is because he’s the first black president. Not because their “charges” amount to squabbles that they themselves are creating, but because they’re just afraid to be seen as racist.
70 | jaunte Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:27:06pm |
71 | Belafon Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:34:54pm |
re: #64 Targetpractice
How can I facebook that one? My wife would love it.
72 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 10, 2014 8:36:48pm |
re: #52 Pie-onist Overlord
I’m reading 12 Years A Slave, the annotated edition that goes into the actual historical details.
Horrific stuff. If the movie is faithful to the book it must be pretty grim.
I haven’t read the book, but there are certainly some grim scenes in the movie.
On the other hand, I rather suspect the reality was much more unrelentingly grim than the movie shows. I don’t think an audience could stomach a faithful representation.
73 | Eclectic Cyborg Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:01:54pm |
It’s bizarre to me how CEOs and business executives are so revered among the right wing crowd when private corporations are, generally speaking, far more ruthless and tyrannical than the government could ever dream of.
74 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:11:51pm |
re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s bizarre to me how CEOs and business executives are so revered among the right wing crowd when private corporations are, generally speaking, far more ruthless and tyrannical than the government could ever dream of.
Battered person syndrome. “Yeah, they kick the shit out of me and rob me blind, but they still care about me!”
75 | Eclectic Cyborg Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:19:57pm |
And on a similar note, I really hate the dudebro/TP argument that no regulation will work just fine because I as a responsible person can avoid getting screwed simply by only doing business with companies I trust.
The flaw there is that I really don’t trust any company. They’re always more concerned about their money than they are me. Not to mention they are often deceptive in their marketing and public statements and less than honest about what actually goes on at their facilities.
How can you ever know the truth if everyone is lying?
76 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:20:38pm |
Hey all.
It’s still cold in my part of the world.
Last night, hubby wanted to watch BulletProof Salesman. And if that didn’t make me depressed enough, we watched the Smithsonian: Seizing Justice: The Greensboro 4 tonite.
You?
77 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:22:51pm |
re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg
And on a similar note, I really hate the dudebro/TP argument that no regulation will work just fine because I as a responsible person can avoid getting screwed simply by only doing business with companies I trust.
The flaw there is that I really don’t trust any company. They’re always more concerned about their money than they are me. Not to mention they are often deceptive in their marketing and public statements and less than honest about what actually goes on at their facilities.
How can you ever know the truth if everyone is lying?
“All Men Would be Tyrants if they could … ” Abigail Adams
So, yes we need government.
78 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:23:24pm |
re: #74 Targetpractice
Battered person syndrome. “Yeah, they kick the shit out of me and rob me blind, but they still care about me!”
It’s a conditioning process —akin if not actually, brainwashing.
79 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:23:42pm |
re: #76 FemNaziBitch
Cold here, too. Pipes are already trying to freeze.
I’ve got the taps dripping, but have to flush the toilet every hour.
So, here I am, drinking coffee after midnight and hoping I can stay awake all night…
80 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:25:01pm |
re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth
Cold here, too. Pipes are already trying to freeze.
I’ve got the taps dripping, but have to flush the toilet every hour.So, here I am, drinking coffee after midnight and hoping I can stay awake all night…
We aren’t that bad. yet …:)
81 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:32:23pm |
Some people are really disgusting.
For the past month, inboxes across the United States and beyond have been getting funeral notices that appear to be from Eubank Funeral Home in Canton, Texas, 60 miles east of Dallas.
Without saying who has died, the fake emails invite the recipient to an upcoming “celebration of your friend’s life service” and instruct the recipient to click a link for “more detailed information about the farewell ceremony.”
“It reaches to people’s curiosity and their natural instinct to find out who passed away,” Bass told Yahoo News.
But instead of going to Eubank’s website, the Better Business Bureau says, the link in the email takes readers to a foreign domain where malicious software is downloaded onto the user’s computer allowing criminals access to passwords, financial records, and other personal information stored on the computer.
83 | Dark_Falcon Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:56:19pm |
84 | freetoken Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:03:27pm |
And suddenly, there’s Mahler: Fourth movement from his symphony #5, as meaty as it is pretty:
85 | Lidane Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:05:26pm |
Ben Carson suggests progressives could turn U.S. into Nazi Germany: http://t.co/yPjydRwL0f— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 10, 2014
86 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:15:31pm |
87 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:24:03pm |
88 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:27:03pm |
re: #87 FemNaziBitch
The Adolph card is wearing thin.
Seriously. Don’t they know that if “the secular progressive movement” is going to turn America into any of the historical dystopias, it’ll be Stalinist Russia?
89 | Kragar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:29:15pm |
re: #87 FemNaziBitch
The Adolph card is wearing thin.
I’m getting so fucking tired of that schtick.
Its that kind of rhetoric which is driving more and more sane people out of the GOP.
90 | Kragar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:30:37pm |
On the bright side, I finally found the class I’m comfortable with on Borderlands 2
91 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:30:39pm |
92 | austin_blue Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:34:49pm |
re: #85 Lidane
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Sure. Progressives are all about concentration camps and gas chambers. Not so much about crematoriums, though. All that CO2 would be bad.
93 | Lidane Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:41:47pm |
corgi is all tucked in! pic.twitter.com/LXnUiCVt55— Cute Emergency (@CuteEmergency) February 11, 2014
94 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:43:39pm |
OMG! I started the audio version of A Space Odyssey: 2001. Arthur C. Clark (himself!) narrates a preface explaining the background of the book and movie.
That alone was worth the cost of the download.
95 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:44:46pm |
Did you know that meerkats are in the same family as mongooses?
and that Neither are rodents?
Jackals are dogs.
96 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:46:59pm |
A little kitty pondering. pic.twitter.com/r6nEMiSMIr
— Animal Planet (@MeetAnimals) February 11, 2014
97 | Kragar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:51:53pm |
re: #95 FemNaziBitch
Did you know that meerkats are in the same family as mongooses?
and that Neither are rodents?
Jackals are dogs.
Bears and dogs share a common ancestor.
98 | austin_blue Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:55:01pm |
re: #97 Kragar
Bears and dogs share a common ancestor.
As do bears and humans. And humans and trilobites.
Just sayin’.
99 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:58:04pm |
re: #97 Kragar
Bears and dogs share a common ancestor.
One of the most wonderful things about getting old is that you get to learn fascinating things about the world all over again.
100 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:58:31pm |
re: #90 Kragar
On the bright side, I finally found the class I’m comfortable with on Borderlands 2
I’ve been meaning to ask, how was ESO?
101 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 10, 2014 10:59:54pm |
re: #97 Kragar
Bears and dogs share a common ancestor.
For that matter, Homo sapiens and E. coli share a common ancestor. Of course, that was considerably longer ago (2.5 billion years, give or take). Bear/dog divergence was only about 45 million.
There’s a great app here that will calculate the time of divergence for any two species. I’ve found a few gaps, but the coverage is reasonably complete.
102 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:04:41pm |
Should I re-read (listen to) the Rama series from Clarke?
103 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:07:17pm |
re: #101 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Brown Bears and Water Bears: diverged 782 million years ago.
104 | The War TARDIS Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:11:21pm |
re: #101 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
The Red Fox and the Wolf: Diverged 14.6 Million Years ago.
Red Fox and Badger: 42.6 MYA
105 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:11:37pm |
re: #103 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Brown Bears and Water Bears: diverged 782 million years ago.
what about the water bear and the black labrador retriever?
107 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:13:36pm |
re: #104 The War TARDIS
The Red Fox and the Wolf: Diverged 14.6 Million Years ago.
Red Fox and Badger: 42.6 MYA
Damn, I was hoping there would be a domesticated fox in a few decades.
They are so freakin’ cute!
108 | The War TARDIS Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:14:23pm |
re: #107 FemNaziBitch
It is already a fact. I’ll be writing an article once my mom gives my dad the Nat Geo on it , who will give it to me.
Expect it in March.
109 | FemNaziBitch Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:17:22pm |
re: #108 The War TARDIS
It is already a fact. I’ll be writing an article once my mom gives my dad the Nat Geo on it , who will give it to me.
Expect it in March.
I waaaaannnnnnnttttt one before March!
110 | The War TARDIS Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:24:16pm |
re: #109 FemNaziBitch
I need the article first.
I give you a picture for the time being.
They evolved floppy ears as a result of the experiments by Belyaev
112 | Kragar Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:54:06pm |
re: #100 Targetpractice
I’ve been meaning to ask, how was ESO?
Meh, nothing at all like the original games. They lifted the setting and dropped the places and names on an MMO engine.
113 | Backwoods_Sleuth Mon, Feb 10, 2014 11:57:54pm |
Yep, #TeamCanada has a beer fridge that can only be opened with a Canadian passport: http://t.co/oWNwqd7MzS #Olympics pic.twitter.com/gT5Ug2MMhW
— JohnnyJet (@JohnnyJet) February 11, 2014
115 | Chrysicat Tue, Feb 11, 2014 12:47:18am |
re: #112 Kragar
You may want Charles to blank that post. NDA’s are nothing to fool around with and I could have sworn that the writer of CAD complained just yesterday that ESO is still under its :-(
116 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:06:38am |
re: #115 Chrysicat
He’ll be fine. There have been press previews of the game that include an NDA drop. What Kragar posted is benign compared to some of the articles online by journalists that have played it.
117 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:13:24am |
Here’s our snow map. Looks like we’ll be getting around 6” here, probably not until tomorow, although they’re all hedging their bets on whether it will start today or tomorrow.
As for me, I’ll open the blinds when it gets light and just keep looking out the sliding glass doors off to the right of this computer. : )
118 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:33:13am |
While the EU sharpens its condemnation of Yanukovych in the Ukraine, the Kyiv Post prints an article from the AC in which Larison gets everything wrong. Link can be found here.
I hope no one over there actually thinks Larison and Dreher decide the foreign policy of the US in regard to Ukraine. : )
119 | Chrysicat Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:58:38am |
re: #48 Targetpractice
Wait, you mean a death spiral? The world may suck with Wal-Mart, but it would be even worse without them, at least in towns that would wind up taking a lot of bitter medicine before their employment levels got back up to pre-WM-collapse levels…so I really hope there’s a way to pull out before they go out of business.
Besides, every store has some exclusive-to-the-area items, and I like some of the junk-food ones WM has to offer. And beyond that, their price for pseudoephedrine caplets is like half what other retailers are asking. And when you go through a 12-hour pill a day just to keep your discharge from thickening and tearing holes in the lining of your throat, that’s a pretty big deal…
120 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 2:49:56am |
re: #117 Justanotherhuman
Here’s our snow map. Looks like we’ll be getting around 6” here, probably not until tomorow, although they’re all hedging their bets on whether it will start today or tomorrow.
As for me, I’ll open the blinds when it gets light and just keep looking out the sliding glass doors off to the right of this computer. : )
Are you near Asheville?
122 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 2:54:39am |
123 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Feb 11, 2014 3:13:34am |
re: #88 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Seriously. Don’t they know that if “the secular progressive movement” is going to turn America into any of the historical dystopias, it’ll be Stalinist Russia?
It’s because Americans are generally more familiar with the horrors of the Nazi regime than they are with the horrors of Stalin’s USSR. Additionally, Adolf Hitler has become, quite frankly, almost a caricature for evil incarnate; Americans “understand” Hitler and the Nazis as a symbolic representation of the darkness of the human heart more so than they do Stalin.
I use “understand” in quotes because a lot of Americans are woefully ignorant of what the Nazi ideology represented. Pro Tip: it’s not liberalism.
124 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:11:32am |
re: #120 wheat-dogghazi
About 75 mi away as the crow flies. : )
125 | Chrysicat Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:14:59am |
re: #124 Justanotherhuman
Eeeep. Doesn’t that put you BELOW the fall line, and thus in a region where you’d normally be used to NO snow, let alone half a foot?
126 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:17:12am |
re: #124 Justanotherhuman
About 75 mi away as the crow flies. : )
Nice! I’ve been through there twice. Some family friends lived outside Asheville — I forget where now — but they moved to Alexandria about 10 years ago. NC is one of my favorite states, and I’ve been there several times, but I’ve never lived there. Hope the snow isn’t too bad.
127 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:22:02am |
re: #125 Chrysicat
No, we get snow from time to time. The last time we got 6” was about 5 yrs ago. And we live at a lake, so when it does snow here, we get that “lake effect”.
It’s infrequent enough that most people forget how to drive in it. This has been a very, very cold winter with a lot of nights in single digits and teens. Today we’ll reach 38, but tomorow it’s not supposed to get above 28. We’ve had a few days like that this winter.
Sick of it.
128 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:23:21am |
Shirley Temple has passed away. I has a sad. :(
Shirley Temple Black, Screen Star, Dies at 85 http://t.co/rRJi61x4cP— The New York Times (@nytimes) February 11, 2014
129 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:26:29am |
It’s 7:30 and still fairly dark and ominous looking outside. Snow sky. 33 deg and perfect for snow right now, but it won’t stick until tonight if it warms up much more. So, I’m thinking maybe a little today, much more tomorrow, and some on Thurs.
But we’ll see.
130 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:31:20am |
Dawn is breaking and hopefully the temperature outside will start rising from its current miserable 1F.
I’m off to finally catch a few zzzzs after being up since 10:30 p.m. Back in a couple of hours.
Nap in a hat. pic.twitter.com/6YTNoxtO51
— Animal Planet (@MeetAnimals) January 30, 2014
131 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:33:38am |
Bryan Fischer hasn’t Tweeted in like 3 days. I hope he’s OK.
I will pray for him, that his next Tweet should be Gay Bryan Fischer. :)
“I’m Out! I’m Proud! My hair is fabulous!”
132 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:34:56am |
re: #129 Justanotherhuman
It’s 7:30 and still fairly dark and ominous looking outside. Snow sky. 33 deg and perfect for snow right now, but it won’t stick until tonight if it warms up much more. So, I’m thinking maybe a little today, much more tomorrow, and some on Thurs.
But we’ll see.
We had our first snow of the Year of the Horse a couple of days ago. It’s mostly melted by now. Daytime temps have been around 34°F.
133 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:36:57am |
re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord
Bryan Fischer hasn’t Tweeted in like 3 days. I hope he’s OK.
I will pray for him, that his next Tweet should be Gay Bryan Fischer. :)
“I’m Out! I’m Proud! My hair is fabulous!”
My evil twin (who does not have a beard, because I do) suggests someone needs to create a fake Twitter account called GayBryanFischer. Pity I can’t copyright this idea.
134 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:39:09am |
re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord
Bryan Fischer hasn’t Tweeted in like 3 days. I hope he’s OK.
I will pray for him, that his next Tweet should be Gay Bryan Fischer. :)
“I’m Out! I’m Proud! My hair is fabulous!”
Brother Bryan always did look unusually well-coiffed for a wild-eyed
prophet.
135 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:39:27am |
re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord
Well, this is all over the internet, and he’ll never live it down. : )
SAY NO MORE
Bryan Fischer Wants The World To Know “I Love Black Males”
Full story here: queerty.com
136 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:39:42am |
137 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:42:21am |
re: #85 Lidane
Ben, you ignorant slut!
138 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:42:33am |
Breaking headline says this was an “adult” cinema…
Deadly blasts hit Pakistan cinema
Breaking news
At least eight people have been killed and many injured in a suspected grenade attack at a cinema in Peshawar in north-west Pakistan, police say.
139 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:44:23am |
re: #133 wheat-dogghazi
My evil twin (who does not have a beard, because I do) suggests someone needs to create a fake Twitter account called GayBryanFischer. Pity I can’t copyright this idea.
I have thought of doing that, but it would be inappropriate. I think an actual Gay person should do it.
140 | ObserverArt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:48:29am |
re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord
Bryan Fischer hasn’t Tweeted in like 3 days. I hope he’s OK.
I will pray for him, that his next Tweet should be Gay Bryan Fischer. :)
“I’m Out! I’m Proud! My hair is fabulous!”
Maybe he finally got around to reading them instead of just hitting send. And I hope he is physically okay…but he has never been completely okay.
By the way…-2° right now in central Ohio. May this be the last of it. Long range forecasts look like we might get back to average.
By the way…Morning!
Ohhh…cable TV just went kaput! Cold weather. It’s crappy Time Warner and I think their infrastructure is falling apart. They probably hope to sell it all off before they have to update.
141 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:48:32am |
re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord
I have thought of doing that, but it would be inappropriate. I think an actual Gay person should do it.
I don’t qualify, either. Fischer richly deserves a parody, though. Someone needs to take him down a few notches.
142 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:54:22am |
NOT THIS STUPID FUCKING MEME AGAIN
Why I Carry: Reason 2 >> No reason needed [pic] #2A #NRA #MolonLabe #RKBA #tcot #tgdn #PJNET pic.twitter.com/tsTxiUPtyY— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 10, 2014
If Rosa Parks had gun she wld be dead b4 pulling the trigger b/c all the white people wld also have guns! @atomiktiger @CCWinNJ #UniteBlue— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 11, 2014
143 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 4:57:50am |
This is Rock Hill SC right now. That’s about 50 mi south of us.
The ground is white in Rock Hill. Snow falling and sticking. Live winter storm alert coverage now on @bounce_tv #scwx pic.twitter.com/mikTMXCkAa— WBTV News (@WBTV_News) February 11, 2014
144 | Chrysicat Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:06:15am |
re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord
I have thought of doing that, but it would be inappropriate. I think an actual Gay person should do it.
Do we have any here who have the time and the nasty sense of humor needed? I’ve maybe got the time (when I’m not crashing at odd hours) and possibly the sense of humor, but while FISCHER would say I pass the first test, I’m t-woman, and probably Kinsey-1 or 2 IF you consider me female rather than male… :-P
145 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:08:16am |
RIP Shirley Temple, who paved the way for hundreds of other child stars, except for the part where she grew up and had a normal happy life.— God (@TheTweetOfGod) February 11, 2014
146 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:10:56am |
I have yet to see any “LIBRUL OUTRAGE” about this skating performance. If he wore an actual gun on the ice there might be some talk about it.
Twitter responds: US Figure Skating Pair Outrages Liberals Wth Choice Of Gun Holster outfit [Watch] http://t.co/DGDE4cxufy #tcot #Sochi2014— Not afraid 2 be Free (@kmita3) February 11, 2014
147 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:11:38am |
Haha, I heard some banging, and my neighbor was coming in a few min ago with groceries and I poked my head out and said, You’re going to need those if we get 6” and are snowed in for a couple of days. He’s from Jersey and laughed and said, Yeah, 6” here is like 4’ up north.
Looks like we’re on the cusp and could possibly get more than 6, depending on how accurate this is. But I’m not counting on it; famous last words and all.
Rain-Snow mix today, no big deal, heavy snow, sleet & freezing rain Wed-Thu is HUGE deal, 4-6” Metro area, 6-8” North pic.twitter.com/MT7RNsP77D— WBTV News (@WBTV_News) February 11, 2014
148 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:19:30am |
re: #147 Justanotherhuman
Haha, I heard some banging, and my neighbor was coming in a few min ago with groceries and I poked my head out and said, You’re going to need those if we get 6” and are snowed in for a couple of days. He’s from Jersey and laughed and said, Yeah, 6” here is like 4’ up north.
Looks like we’re on the cusp and could possibly get more than 6, depending on how accurate this is. But I’m not counting on it; famous last words and all.
I assume he wasn’t one of those panic buyers we have in Louisville who hit the supermarkets just before a “big storm” hits. (Big for Louisville is anything over 2”.)
149 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:24:12am |
re: #148 wheat-dogghazi
I assume he wasn’t one of those panic buyers we have in Louisville who hit the supermarkets just before a “big storm” hits. (Big for Louisville is anything over 2”.)
No, it was probably time for him to shop. He’s pretty much a recluse; works from home. But he seems like a nice guy, always says hello and lets us pet his dog when he’s out with him. Other than that, we seldom see him.
150 | Chrysicat Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:25:24am |
re: #148 wheat-dogghazi
I assume he wasn’t one of those panic buyers we have in Louisville who hit the supermarkets just before a “big storm” hits. (Big for Louisville is anything over 2”.)
Even if he is, I’d almost see it as justified in this case. If the city’s at a standstill, he won’t be able to go out—even just walking—to get his bread and milk after it hits, after all, and very few people hang onto a month’s stockpile of bread in their freezer like my family (even then, we still run through just over 2 gallons of milk a week…)
151 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:27:34am |
re: #150 Chrysicat
Even if he is, I’d almost see it as justified in this case. If the city’s at a standstill, he won’t be able to go out—even just walking—to get his bread and milk after it hits, after all, and very few people hang onto a month’s stockpile of bread in their freezer like my family (even then, we still run through just over 2 gallons of milk a week…)
I rarely buy bread, I prefer to bake my own.
Of course if the power goes out it would suck to bake bread in the fireplace.
152 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:29:49am |
re: #149 Justanotherhuman
No, it was probably time for him to shop. He’s pretty much a recluse; works from home. But he seems like a nice guy, always says hello and lets us pet his dog when he’s out with him. Other than that, we seldom see him.
Heh. He just checked three blocks on the Nancy Grace Scale of Serial Axe Murderers.
153 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:32:20am |
re: #77 FemNaziBitch
“All Men Would be Tyrants if they could … ” Abigail Adams
So, yes we need government.
All the updings for Abigail Adams quote!
154 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:33:38am |
Oh, for chrissakes. When are those 12K going to revolt? That’s a small town of people.
Barclays to cut 12,000 jobs, pays bigger bonuses
LONDON (Reuters) - Barclays said it would axe up to 12,000 jobs this year even as it raised bonuses for investment bankers, prompting fury among politicians and unions who said it had not learned the lessons of the financial crisis.
“Britain’s third-biggest bank said up to 9 percent of employees could go, including 7,000 in Britain, as it tries to lower costs. The cuts are not concentrated in any one business area.
“It said it paid 2.4 billion pounds ($3.9 billion) in incentive awards last year, raising bonuses at the investment bank by 13 percent despite a slump in its profits. The average bonus for the investment bank’s 26,200 staff was 60,100 pounds.”
155 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:34:47am |
re: #151 Pie-onist Overlord
I rarely buy bread, I prefer to bake my own.
Of course if the power goes out it would suck to bake bread in the fireplace.
Cast iron w/a lid. Makes a lovely little oven you can use in a fire place. : )
156 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:34:47am |
re: #108 The War TARDIS
It is already a fact. I’ll be writing an article once my mom gives my dad the Nat Geo on it , who will give it to me.
Expect it in March.
One of the good things to come out of Russia, I believe. ;)
157 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:36:03am |
158 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:36:37am |
re: #155 Justanotherhuman
Cast iron w/a lid. Makes a lovely little oven you can use in a fire place. : )
I don’t have a cast iron pan. Been meaning to buy one for years.
159 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:38:37am |
re: #155 Justanotherhuman
Cast iron w/a lid. Makes a lovely little oven you can use in a fire place. : )
Yep. We’ve done bread/rolls while camping, with a dutch oven whose lid is designed as a tray for coals.
160 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:42:26am |
re: #152 Decatur Deb
Heh. He just checked three blocks on the Nancy Grace Scale of Serial Axe Murderers.
Nah. He does go to visit his parents a couple of times a year. Keeps a very, very low profile, and has lived here longer than I have, so over 5 yrs because no one else is allowed to have pets and his was grandfathered in when the current owners took over. In his mid-30s; that’s all I know ‘cause I don’t acct for him unless it was something that disturbed me, like the loud banging this am. All I know is that he works on his computer in some capacity; other than that, he seems perfectly harmless. : )
161 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:42:38am |
re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord
I don’t have a cast iron pan. Been meaning to buy one for years.
I picked up a 15” skillet at a Mennonite store in Elkhart, Indiana, years ago. I’m not sure which of my kids has it now. My former mother-in-law was going to throw away a Dutch oven like jah is talking about, because it was rusty on the outside. No idea how old it was at the time. Anyway, we cleaned it up and started to use it.
You might be able to find cast iron ware cheap at a thrift store.
162 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:42:59am |
re: #159 Decatur Deb
Yep. We’ve done bread/rolls while camping, with a dutch oven whose lid is designed as a tray for coals.
Dutch Ovens are teh bawmb.
163 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:43:29am |
re: #161 wheat-dogghazi
I picked up a 15” skillet at a Mennonite store in Elkhart, Indiana, years ago. I’m not sure which of my kids has it now. My former mother-in-law was going to throw away a Dutch oven like jah is talking about, because it rusty on the outside. No idea how old it was at the time. Anyway, we cleaned it up and started to use it.
You might be able to find cast iron ware cheap at a thrift store.
I have a Lodge skillet on my Amazon wish list. Might as well buy it now.
164 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:44:41am |
re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord
I have a Lodge skillet on my Amazon wish list. Might as well buy it now.
Livin’ life on the edge, you are! La vida loca!
165 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:44:55am |
re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord
I don’t have a cast iron pan. Been meaning to buy one for years.
Look in thrift stores for something that’s already used. I have several old (over 30 yrs) pieces (even gave a few to my sons) and it really takes years to get them “right”. A lot of it comes from China these days, unfortunately.
166 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:45:57am |
re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord
I have a Lodge skillet on my Amazon wish list. Might as well buy it now.
Lodge is the way to go because you have to buy new (as we once discussed). Their factory and real outlet store is in South Pittsburg TN, not far from your kids.
167 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:46:35am |
re: #165 Justanotherhuman
Look in thrift stores for something that’s already used. I have several old (over 30 yrs) pieces (even gave a few to my sons) and it really takes years to get them “right”. A lot of it comes from China these days, unfortunately.
QFT.
168 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:46:45am |
re: #165 Justanotherhuman
Look in thrift stores for something that’s already used. I have several old (over 30 yrs) pieces (even gave a few to my sons) and it really takes years to get them “right”. A lot of it comes from China these days, unfortunately.
I keep kosher so I can’t buy a used skillet, I don’t know what it’s been used for.
169 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:48:46am |
re: #168 Pie-onist Overlord
I keep kosher so I can’t buy a used skillet, I don’t know what it’s been used for.
That’s what I was gonna say — IMAO, pork fat is the optimum fat for curing/seasoning for cast iron, but what do I know?
I do think with a base cure of shortening, you could work some cast iron magic with schmaltz.
EDITED TO ADD: Now I’m wondering if anyone’s ever done scientific studies of cast-iron vessels exclusively using particular fats.
170 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:49:51am |
re: #169 chadu
That’s what I was gonna say — IMAO, pork fat is the optimum fat for curing/seasoning for cast iron, but what do I know?
I do think with a base cure of shortening, you could work some cast iron magic with schmaltz.
The Lodge skillets are pre-seasoned and they are certified kosher, so probably some kind of vegetable fat has been used.
171 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:49:58am |
re: #168 Pie-onist Overlord
I keep kosher so I can’t buy a used skillet, I don’t know what it’s been used for.
Then Lodge is the way to go, rather than guessing. If you have a BBQ grill, a smoker type, you can “cure” it in that better than in your oven. You could look online for ways to do it using a vegetable based cure (not lard or any meat products). It takes time, and stinks (which is why you don’t want to do it in the house).
172 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:50:15am |
re: #168 Pie-onist Overlord
I keep kosher so I can’t buy a used skillet, I don’t know what it’s been used for.
Oh, I forgot about that. There’d be a good chance pork products were cooked in a skillet.
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Now I want sausage and eggs.
173 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:50:25am |
Now what am I going to use it for, meat or dairy?
174 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:51:27am |
175 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:51:37am |
176 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:52:27am |
177 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:52:48am |
re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord
The Lodge skillets are pre-seasoned and they are certified kosher, so probably some kind of vegetable fat has been used.
Yup, I was thinking about your usage going forward.
Me, before my mom washed the skillet in soapy water*, usually used stuff in pork fat, chicken fat, or peanut oil.
* I’m still crying inside, and haven’t re-cured yet.
Hmmmm, maybe doing duck breasts would be a good start after base re-curing…
178 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:52:57am |
re: #173 Pie-onist Overlord
Now what am I going to use it for, meat or dairy?
The only dairy I ever cooked in mine were eggs and grilled cheese sandwiches. (Not at the same time.)
179 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:53:04am |
I already have a collection of pie pans, though.
Fried chicken?
180 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:53:32am |
181 | Mattand Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:53:58am |
re: #147 Justanotherhuman
Haha, I heard some banging, and my neighbor was coming in a few min ago with groceries and I poked my head out and said, You’re going to need those if we get 6” and are snowed in for a couple of days. He’s from Jersey and laughed and said, Yeah, 6” here is like 4’ up north.
Looks like we’re on the cusp and could possibly get more than 6, depending on how accurate this is. But I’m not counting on it; famous last words and all.
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Philly/South Jersey is looking at 6” to 8” according to NOAA, and 6” to OMG GAME OVER MAN!!!! according to the local broadcasters.
Ratings forecasting, I calls it.
182 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:53:59am |
183 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:54:19am |
re: #174 Decatur Deb
Pie
I retract my earlier vote of “meat”.
Dutch Ovens work great for moist cakes, too.
184 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:55:14am |
Fried chicken in a cast iron skillet is OMGIWANTTOEATTHATEVERYDAYFOREVER. Do eet.
185 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:55:24am |
re: #183 chadu
I retract my earlier vote of “meat”.
Dutch Ovens work great for moist cakes, too.
Campfire cinnamon buns on a cold morning.
186 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:55:33am |
re: #178 wheat-dogghazi
The only dairy I ever cooked in mine were eggs and grilled cheese sandwiches. (Not at the same time.)
Do eggs count as dairy under kosher rules?
187 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:56:00am |
re: #177 chadu
Yup, I was thinking about your usage going forward.
Me, before my mom washed the skillet in soapy water*, usually used stuff in pork fat, chicken fat, or peanut oil.
* I’m still crying inside, and haven’t re-cured yet.
Hmmmm, maybe doing duck breasts would be a good start after base re-curing…
Being in China, I have a wok, and you treat it like cast iron. So, you can imagine my dismay when one of my more enterprising students went to town cleaning my wok with hot soapy water after dinner one evening. Took me weeks to get the coating back on it.
188 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:56:38am |
re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord
I already have a collection of pie pans, though.
Fried chicken?
If you buy a deep skillet, sure. But Dutch Oven would be better for that.
But can’t beat the skillet for pan-fried stuff.
189 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:56:57am |
re: #186 chadu
Do eggs count as dairy under kosher rules?
Eggs are pareve (neutral)
I could buy two iron pans.
And maybe a third for Passover. :)
190 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:57:39am |
re: #187 wheat-dogghazi
Being in China, I have a wok, and you treat it like cast iron. So, you can imagine my dismay when one of my more enterprising students went to town cleaning my wok with hot soapy water after dinner one evening. Took me weeks to get the coating back on it.
(pours a 40 of Wesson out with you for fallen cures)
191 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:58:04am |
re: #189 Pie-onist Overlord
Eggs are pareve (neutral)
I could buy two iron pans.
And maybe a third for Passover. :)
Get an engineer to check your floor loading.
193 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:59:13am |
re: #189 Pie-onist Overlord
Eggs are pareve (neutral)
I could buy two iron pans.
And maybe a third for Passover. :)
You might work with two — like wheat-dogg, the only dairy I’ve ever cooked in my skillet were grilled cheese sammitches.
…
Strike that, the sammitches were worth an extra skillet. (Just get a little one.)
194 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:00:23am |
I have a little 6” cast iron skillet that is perfect for grilled cheese sand or scrambling eggs…
Also, a 12” skillet, deep chicken fryer (lids for both), a dutch oven and even a 3 qt pot w/lid. The only one w/o a lid is the tiny frying pan. Gave my “spider” (skillet sized griddle) to my son and regret it now. : ) And wish I had accepted the corn muffin pan someone offered. I rescued a huge cast iron stock pot from beside our dumpster and cleaned it up and gave it to a friend. Much too big for me and she might have been able to sell it.
195 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:01:01am |
re: #193 chadu
You might work with two — like wheat-dogg, the only dairy I’ve ever cooked in my skillet were grilled cheese sammitches.
…
Strike that, the sammitches were worth an extra skillet. (Just get a little one.)
I already have a panini press for sandwiches.
I JUST CAN’T STOP BUYING GADGETS & APPLIANCES!!!
I have these little ceramic “pie birds” that vent steam from pie filling. They look so cute lined up on the window sill.
196 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:01:27am |
re: #189 Pie-onist Overlord
Eggs are pareve (neutral)
I could buy two iron pans.
And maybe a third for Passover. :)
Does that mean steak and eggs is OK, or a cheese omelette is OK, but not steak + cheese omelette in the same pan?
197 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:02:07am |
re: #193 chadu
You might work with two — like wheat-dogg, the only dairy I’ve ever cooked in my skillet were grilled cheese sammitches.
…
Strike that, the sammitches were worth an extra skillet. (Just get a little one.)
Lodge also sells the cast-iron squisher for grilled cheeses.
198 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:02:50am |
re: #196 wheat-dogghazi
Does that mean steak and eggs is OK, or a cheese omelette is OK, but not steak + cheese omelette in the same pan?
Steak & eggs is OK.
Cheese & eggs is OK. (in a different pan)
Steak & eggs & cheese ARE NOT OK all in one pan, or even served together from different pans.
199 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:03:36am |
re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord
Steak & eggs is OK.
Cheese & eggs is OK. (in a different pan)Steak & eggs & cheese ARE NOT OK all in one pan, or even served together from different pans.
Roger that. I’ll file that away for future reference.
200 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:04:03am |
re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord
Steak & eggs is OK.
Cheese & eggs is OK. (in a different pan)Steak & eggs & cheese ARE NOT OK all in one pan, or even served together from different pans.
That kills the kosher, right? You just don’t mix meat and dairy together.
201 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:05:01am |
re: #200 Justanotherhuman
That kills the kosher, right? You just don’t mix meat and dairy together.
Meat + Dairy = NO NO
I can’t haz cheeseburger.
202 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:05:30am |
Having a big sad this morning. Rest In Peace Shirley Temple Black. She was contemporary to my long departed Mom, and was far and away her favorite actress/personality out there. If you are about my age, you probably drank a “Shirley Temple” when out with the adults at a nice restaurant as a kid.
203 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:05:55am |
Since we’re discussing dietary law, do Muslims have the same restrictions about mixing meat and dairy? I know pork is off the table, but I don’t know about any other forbidden items.
204 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:06:37am |
BTW, that sacred rule about not washing cast iron ever? Wrong. I wash mine all the time.
Once a pan or pot is seasoned right, you can lightly wash it, just don’t soak it very long. A well-seasoned pan will not stick but act like a non-stick one, although you can still burn stuff which might stick.
I mean, do you really want nasty built up grease on your pans? I don’t.
205 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:06:50am |
re: #197 Decatur Deb
Lodge also sells the cast-iron squisher for grilled cheeses.
I am in lurve with squishers.
206 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:07:27am |
It's a frequency only right wingers can hear … #p2 #uniteblue #tcot #lnyhbt #teaparty pic.twitter.com/hxghpTr3yp— Leyla (@MiamiLib) February 11, 2014
207 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:07:56am |
I want one! MT @ZeddRebel: Team Canada Gives Zero F*cks MT @JeffersonObama Canada's #SOCHI passport beer fridge. pic.twitter.com/cLcshU7dY2— Jim Gillespie (@jgillespie_us) February 11, 2014
208 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:09:30am |
re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord
Meat + Dairy = NO NO
I can’t haz cheeseburger.
And here we come to the crux of my personal nuh-uh! about the kosher rules. (Even moreso than the bacon thing — I am an Internet Heretic.)
A loving Ceiling Cat wants us to haz cheezburger.
;)
209 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:09:42am |
re: #204 Justanotherhuman
BTW, that sacred rule about not washing cast iron ever? Wrong. I wash mine all the time.
Once a pan or pot is seasoned right, you can lightly wash it, just don’t soak it very long. A well-seasoned pan will not stick but act like a non-stick one, although you can still burn stuff which might stick.
I mean, do you really want nasty built up grease on your pans? I don’t.
The rule for cleaning woks is to rinse with hot water, but no soap or detergent unless it’s really glommed up with grease or oil. A brush works better for cleaning than a sponge or dishrag. Then, return the wok to the burner to dry.
210 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:10:35am |
re: #204 Justanotherhuman
BTW, that sacred rule about not washing cast iron ever? Wrong. I wash mine all the time.
Once a pan or pot is seasoned right, you can lightly wash it, just don’t soak it very long. A well-seasoned pan will not stick but act like a non-stick one, although you can still burn stuff which might stick.
I mean, do you really want nasty built up grease on your pans? I don’t.
I use a salt+water paste/scrub, rinse, then lightly apply a layer of oil.
211 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:10:40am |
Chadu,
I brought my cast iron pan back from scrubbed out hell with a mix of olive and grape seed oils in the over at 400. Then it was butter for pancakes the next day.
212 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:12:44am |
re: #211 Political Atheist
Chadu,
I brought my cast iron pan back from scrubbed out hell with a mix of olive and grape seed oils in the over at 400. Then it was butter for pancakes the next day.
I would have went straight with peanut.
The low smoke point of olive oil would have scared me (but that’s why you added the grape seed oil, no?).
213 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:13:52am |
re: #208 chadu
And here we come to the crux of my personal nuh-uh! about the kosher rules. (Even moreso than the bacon thing — I am an Internet Heretic.)
A loving Ceiling Cat wants us to haz cheezburger.
;)
MOAR CHEEZBURGER FOR CHADU!!!
214 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:14:57am |
re: #208 chadu
And here we come to the crux of my personal nuh-uh! about the kosher rules. (Even moreso than the bacon thing — I am an Internet Heretic.)
A loving Ceiling Cat wants us to haz cheezburger.
;)
Our non-resident daughter came to visit us in Israel during Pesach. Not only could she not haz cheeseburger, McDonalds served her hamburger on an egg-based ‘matzo’.
215 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:15:01am |
Some idiot is now all butthurt that I mentioned David Duke is a Republican. HURR HURR BUT HE USED TO BE A DEMOCRAT!!!! DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!11!!!TY
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
@viciousbabushka FYI…Duke was originally (and ran for president in 1988 as) a DEMOCRAT. @Serafinos @atomiktiger @CCWinNJ— SharpestJim(TM) (@SharpestJim) February 11, 2014
216 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:15:37am |
re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord
Steak & eggs is OK.
Cheese & eggs is OK. (in a different pan)Steak & eggs & cheese ARE NOT OK all in one pan, or even served together from different pans.
Question: what about chicken & eggs? Does that fall under the “seething the kid in its mother’s milk” thing that is the “no meat + cheese” rule?
That rule would have an effect on my breaded chicken breasts…
217 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:15:46am |
re: #214 Decatur Deb
Our non-resident daughter came to visit us in Israel during Pesach. Not only could she not haz cheeseburger, McDonalds served her hamburger on an egg-based ‘matzo’.
I would not eat at a McDonald’s ever.
218 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:16:27am |
re: #216 chadu
Question: what about chicken & eggs? Does that fall under the “seething the kid in its mother’s milk” thing that is the “no meat + cheese” rule?
That rule would have an effect on my breaded chicken breasts…
Eggs can be eaten with anything! (unless you’re vegan, then NO EGGS FOR YOU.)
219 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:16:28am |
re: #214 Decatur Deb
Our non-resident daughter came to visit us in Israel during Pesach. Not only could she not haz cheeseburger, McDonalds served her hamburger on an egg-based ‘matzo’.
That sounds interesting, actually.
220 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:16:32am |
It is morning and it is still cold
Remember how the Chinese noble women used to carry little dogs in their sleeves? I think I know why.
They are sources of heat.
221 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:16:59am |
re: #212 chadu
I would have went straight with peanut.
The low smoke point of olive oil would have scared me (but that’s why you added the grape seed oil, no?).
It’s a mix we buy at the store. I’d not use peanut as it’s not a neutral flavor, but maybe kidding myself- I guess all that goes away given the curing time in the oven.
222 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:18:30am |
re: #218 Pie-onist Overlord
Eggs can be eaten with anything! (unless you’re vegan, then NO EGGS FOR YOU.)
AWESOME! (Except for the vegans!)
Now, I’m trying to figure out if rabbis are just more pro-mammal or anti-poultry, based on that rule.
(I would have been an even worse Jew than I am a Bad Catholic.)
;)
223 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:19:06am |
re: #220 FemNaziBitch
It is morning and it is still cold
Remember how the Chinese noble women used to carry little dogs in their sleeves? I think I know why.
They are sources of heat.
Nope, Chuck Testa self-defense.
224 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:19:21am |
re: #211 Political Atheist
Chadu,
I brought my cast iron pan back from scrubbed out hell with a mix of olive and grape seed oils in the over at 400. Then it was butter for pancakes the next day.
I prefer cast iron to any other metal for pots. I need the iron.
As I age, they’ve become so much heavier than they used to be. It takes two hands to lift one now.
225 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:19:39am |
re: #221 Political Atheist
It’s a mix we buy at the store. I‘d not use peanut as it’s not a neutral flavor, but maybe kidding myself- I guess all that goes away given the curing time in the oven.
Feature, not bug. ;)
226 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:20:14am |
re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord
I would not eat at a McDonald’s ever.
We were there while they were fighting to get their certification. In the end the battle came down to importation of potatoes from Idaho.
(Daughter 2 has insisted on McDs in every country she visits. It’s a ‘thing’.)
227 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:20:25am |
re: #223 chadu
Nope,
Chuck Testaself-defense.
Well, the little warm fuzzies were surely welcomein the winter!
228 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:20:59am |
Okay, BBL, folks…
The long road to my living room and clipboard and standard to edit for the day beckons…
230 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:21:27am |
Back when I still shopped at Whole Foods (I don’t go there any more since the idiot CEO made a big deal about treating his employees as shitty as Walmart), they had a vegan section which included non-dairy “cheese” and I was all like “Cool! Now I can haz cheezburger!”
But then I looked at the list of ingredients for this edible manufactured product and not only did it not contain any dairy, but it did not seem to even include any actual FOOD.
231 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:22:03am |
re: #212 chadu
Smoke points for oils depends.
EVOO has a higher smoke point than the regular stuff.
Here’s a pretty comprehensive list.
I season my wok with sesame oil with a little canola added. I probably need to give a good workover outside, where the smoke isn’t an issue, but it’s not too bad for indoors. (and why does season my wok sound… well… dirty? /or is it just me)…
233 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:22:43am |
234 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:23:05am |
What’s the best oil to use for deep frying?
235 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:27:00am |
re: #234 Pie-onist Overlord
What’s the best oil to use for deep frying?
Not hydraulic. (It killed a bunch of people in Vietnam.)
236 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:27:11am |
re: #232 FemNaziBitch
That’s nothing— not to brag so much, but I can still pick up all my cast iron with one hand at 73. : ) It’s why I still use them. At one point, I wanted to put them up, but then I figured lifting stuff like that from time to time would help me strengthen hands and arms because they’re weights.
I can still move my refrigerator and furniture by myself, too. After all, when you do something yourself all your life, you just get used to it.
238 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:28:29am |
re: #235 Decatur Deb
Not hydraulic. (It killed a bunch of people in Vietnam.)
Don’t know; never deep fry anything. Some swear by peanut oil, esp in the south for frying chicken.
239 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:28:43am |
Mornn’ all. Good read here:
“Snowden and the Fools Who Love Him” -My piece in the American Interest http://t.co/joQtFKT475— Edward Lucas (@edwardlucas) February 11, 2014
240 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:29:37am |
re: #237 FemNaziBitch
And that’s why some of the best written female characters on tv or movies have been from Weedonverse.
241 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:29:51am |
re: #238 Justanotherhuman
Don’t know; never deep fry anything. Some swear by peanut oil, esp in the south for frying chicken.
That’s what I heard from folks in KY. It has a high smoke point.
242 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:31:38am |
re: #238 Justanotherhuman
Don’t know; never deep fry anything. Some swear by peanut oil, esp in the south for frying chicken.
Peanut oil is what you want for deep-frying a turkey as well.
243 | RadicalModerate Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:32:03am |
re: #85 Lidane
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As usual, Ben Carson, and the rest of the TeaParty & FoxNews idiots prove their complete ignorance of history.
The fascist Nazi Party’s rise to power was due to their reaction to the Weimar Republic’s progressive policies because of the effects of the Great Depression as well the financial strain of post-WWI reparations that Germany was forced to make.
Fast forward 70 years, and what political group is it that is extremely socially conservative, who repeatedly espouse “self-deportation” rhetoric toward non-white immigrants, and want to restrict basic rights of entire groups (whether it be racial or sexual orientation) of people who they consider to be “degenerate”? I wonder if Mr. Carson would be willing to make a side-by-side comparison with the number of outright white supremacists in his political movement versus any “progressive” organization.
Also, I don’t remember ANY progressive/liberal type who in the past 30+ years espoused the violent overthrow of our legally-elected government, not to mention numerous statements and images advocating the assassination of a sitting President - all of which happens on an almost-daily basis from the right-wingers.
244 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:32:09am |
re: #238 Justanotherhuman
Don’t know; never deep fry anything. Some swear by peanut oil, esp in the south for frying chicken.
This is the Peanut Capital, so it’s big around here—especially for deep-frying turkeys. Wife uses corn or Canola (rapeseed).
245 | ObserverArt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:33:54am |
re: #204 Justanotherhuman
BTW, that sacred rule about not washing cast iron ever? Wrong. I wash mine all the time.
Once a pan or pot is seasoned right, you can lightly wash it, just don’t soak it very long. A well-seasoned pan will not stick but act like a non-stick one, although you can still burn stuff which might stick.
I mean, do you really want nasty built up grease on your pans? I don’t.
I have two 9” cast iron skillets. Can’t live without them. And like you, I wash them. But never submerged, I like to clean them when they are a little warm, a squirt of dish soap and I use a little soft scrubber pad. As soon as they dry, I pour a little canola/vegetable oil in them and take a paper towel and buff the oil into the surface until the surface is dry and has a nice sheen. Ready to go for then next time. It’s sort of like oiling a baseball glove. I’ve had them for well over 40 years. Bought them at a general store in Ohio’s Amish country. I wish I would have bought a larger one at the same time.
246 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:35:18am |
re: #239 darthstar
One such tasty nugget from that article:
In any case, far from denigrating American intelligence we should applaud it. It helps catch terrorists, gangster and foreign spies. The oversight and scrutiny is the toughest in the world. America has taken the most elusive and lawless part of government and crammed it into a system of legislative and judicial control. America is also part of the world’s only successful no-spy agreement, with its close allies—notably Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Would Switzerland or Austria, say trust Germany enough to sign a no-spy deal? I suspect not.
Snowden’s published revelations include material that has nothing to do with his purported worries about personal privacy. They reveal how countries like Norway and Sweden spy on Russia. Why is it in the public interest to reveal how democracies spy on dictatorships? The Snowdenistas’ outrage is based on the fact that this spying takes place in cooperation with the NSA, the Great Satan of the intelligence world.
Other disclosures are similarly hard to justify. Why is it in the public interest to reveal how the NSA intercepts e-mails, phone calls, and radio transmissions of Taliban fighters in Pakistan, or to show that the agency is intensifying scrutiny on the security of that country’s nuclear weapons? Snowden even revealed details of how the NSA hacks into computers and mobile phones in China and Hong Kong.
The spin and hype surrounding these leaks has cast a harsh, distorting and damaging light on the intelligence agencies’ work. The damage is catastrophic. It dwarfs the damage done by the traitors of cold-war era. Our spymasters are aghast at the damage, but stay tight-lipped about details for fear of making matters worse.
I’d agree with the author who notes that the Snodwenistas are a bunch of naive fools, and there’s no reason to trust Snowden on anything - particularly about the storage and security of the documents he stole.
The NSA and US officials have to assume that anything Snowden touched is now in the hands of the Chinese and/or Russians, and that the compromise to those programs is significant.
And for what? To make claims that the US spied on US citizens (except that in most instances there were warrants and judicial oversight, not what Greenwald initially claimed), and to undermine US relations with allies, even though the spying had nothing to do with violations of US law (one of the excuses thrown around by Greenwald and Snowden was the lawlessness of the NSA, when the very opposite is true - there’s significant oversight involved).
247 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:35:32am |
Grumpy Cat says: Push her! pic.twitter.com/r3Fav2ZKyr— Darrell Lee (@Dazzlechat) February 11, 2014
248 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:37:49am |
re: #246 lawhawk
It’s also a very well-written argument. Would be good to see the NY Times or the Washington Post pick it up and publish it. That would, of course, send GG off the rails.
249 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:38:00am |
re: #246 lawhawk
I just read it. You’re right, it’s a good read and a fair assessment. GG and the Snowdenistas will all be butthurt, though.
250 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:38:07am |
re: #248 darthstar
It’s also a very well-written argument. Would be good to see the NY Times or the Washington Post pick it up and publish it. That would, of course, send GG off the rails.
Is he even on the rails?
251 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:39:17am |
To celebrate his victory on immigration reform, Boehner now doing the same with the debt ceiling…
BREAKING: house Rs abandoning debt limit plan. Will try to pass clean debt limit. Boehner made announcement in mtg— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) February 11, 2014
252 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:39:51am |
re: #245 ObserverArt
I have two 9” cast iron skillets. Can’t live without them. And like you, I wash them. But never submerged, I like to clean them when they are a little warm, a quirt of dish soap and I use a little soft scrubber pad. As soon as they dry, I pour a little canola/vegetable oil in them and take a paper towel and buff the oil into the surface until the surface is dry and has a nice sheen. Ready to go for then next time. It’s sort of like oiling a baseball glove. I’ve had them for well over 40 years. Bought them at a general store in Ohio’s Amish country. I wish I would have bought a larger one at the same time.
You’re doing it exactly right. The main rule is, or should be—even when a pan is “cured”, never put cast iron up until it’s completely dry. I’ve been known to put mine on a low heat to dry out before I oiled and wiped it down. Last night, I left the frying pan on the stove with the lid to one side after use and let it dry out completely overnight, putting it up this morning.
253 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:40:37am |
re: #251 darthstar
To celebrate his victory on immigration reform, Boehner now doing the same with the debt ceiling…
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Oops…misread that. Thought they were stepping over the ledge. Looks like they’re stepping away from it.
254 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:40:38am |
What a fucking idiot.
@viciousbabushka Well, there's your proof. It's #racism. You sure are “vicious”. Meow. #GMAB @Serafinos @atomiktiger @CCWinNJ— SharpestJim(TM) (@SharpestJim) February 11, 2014
255 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:40:39am |
re: #243 RadicalModerate
As usual, Ben Carson, and the rest of the TeaParty & FoxNews idiots prove their complete ignorance of history.
The fascist Nazi Party’s rise to power was due to their reaction to the Weimar Republic’s progressive policies because of the effects of the Great Depression as well the financial strain of post-WWI reparations that Germany was forced to make.
Fast forward 70 years, and what political group is it that is extremely socially conservative, who repeatedly espouse “self-deportation” rhetoric toward non-white immigrants, and want to restrict basic rights of entire groups (whether it be racial or sexual orientation) of people who they consider to be “degenerate”? I wonder if Mr. Carson would be willing to make a side-by-side comparison with the number of outright white supremacists in his political movement versus any “progressive” organization.
Also, I don’t remember ANY progressive/liberal type who in the past 30+ years espoused the violent overthrow of our legally-elected government, not to mention numerous statements and images advocating the assassination of a sitting President - all of which happens on an almost-daily basis from the right-wingers.
Carson can’t and won’t do a comparison of liberal/progressive organizations with white supremacists because I suspect he knows he’s being intellectually dishonest. Really, I don’t know how these right wing idiots criticize us for embracing multi-culturalism and yet want to call us the heirs of the Nazis in the same breath. And for what it’s worth while I disdain their worldview, i don’t think they are either but then again unlike FNC and its viewers I feel I can disagree with someone without seeing them as the heirs to the Nazis and fascist movements of the 30’s.
256 | RadicalModerate Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:40:56am |
re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord
Some idiot is now all butthurt that I mentioned David Duke is a Republican. HURR HURR BUT HE USED TO BE A DEMOCRAT!!!! DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!11!!!TY
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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David Duke has been a Republican since the 1980s, when he switched over along with all the other “Dixiecrats”. He was a Republican state senator, and ran for Louisiana Governor in 1991 as a member of the Republican Party, The fact that he actually made it to a run-off, and carried most northern Louisiana parishes while running on a outright racist platform was a primary reason that moved away from that area more than 20 years ago.
257 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:41:06am |
re: #251 darthstar
To celebrate his victory on immigration reform, Boehner now doing the same with the debt ceiling…
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Note that the bill was posted last night and scheduled for a vote tomorrow, which means it didn’t make it a full day before he yanked it due to insufficient votes.
259 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:43:05am |
The Dutch are totally owning the speed skating event.
260 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:44:07am |
re: #256 RadicalModerate
David Duke has been a Republican since the 1980s, when he switched over along with all the other “Dixiecrats”. He was a Republican state senator, and ran for Louisiana Governor in 1991 as a member of the Republican Party, The fact that he actually made it to a run-off, and carried most northern Louisiana parishes while running on a outright racist platform was a primary reason that moved away from that area more than 20 years ago.
He made it so far in the Republican party that President H.W Bush and the Republican establishment in Louisiana had to disawow his candidacy. Anyhow, would love to know what this twit thinks about Jesse Helms who got six terms in office by being a modern version of the Strom Thurmond who ran for president in ‘48. I still subscribe to the belief that civil rights is and was about ideology. A lot of old right wing dixiecrats refused to join the GOP because they still blamed the GOP for the “War of Northern Aggression.”
261 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:44:36am |
re: #257 Targetpractice
Note that the bill was posted last night and scheduled for a vote tomorrow, which means it didn’t make it a full day before he yanked it due to insufficient votes.
I didn't even have time to write up Gene Sperling's reaction to the House GOP's debt ceiling plan before the debt ceiling plan fell apart— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) February 11, 2014
262 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:46:07am |
re: #260 HappyWarrior
He made it so far in the Republican party that President H.W Bush and the Republican establishment in Louisiana had to disawow his candidacy. Anyhow, would love to know what this twit thinks about Jesse Helms who got six terms in office by being a modern version of the Strom Thurmond who ran for president in ‘48. I still subscribe to the belief that civil rights is and was about ideology. A lot of old right wing dixiecrats refused to join the GOP because they still blamed the GOP for the “War of Northern Aggression.”
HURR HURR!!!! ROBERT BYRD!!!!! HURR HURR!!!!!! GEORGE WALLACE!!!!! DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!11!!TY
263 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:47:19am |
re: #261 darthstar
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Hopefully that means an end to the “dollar for dollar” silliness, but I doubt it. We only get a reprieve until next March, then it’s back to the same games.
264 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:47:41am |
Kinda blew @chucktodd's Lying GOP BS. That PBO has lost credibility with France over NSA. I love it when egg appears all over his face.— annatooney (@annatooney) February 11, 2014
265 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:48:08am |
Wow, I haven’t “been a Republican” since I was in the 5th grade and we wore “I Like Ike” buttons.
It was a catchy campaign slogan.
266 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:48:30am |
re: #253 darthstar
Oops…misread that. Thought they were stepping over the ledge. Looks like they’re stepping away from it.
But he’s not doing it the way the moderate-ish GOP would want—without Dem votes. Instead he has to trash the Hastert rule again.
267 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:48:43am |
re: #263 Targetpractice
Hopefully that means an end to the “dollar for dollar” silliness, but I doubt it. We only get a reprieve until next March, then it’s back to the same games.
With the GOP shooting itself in the foot over Immigration Reform, next March might not be such a big deal…could have a more balanced house by then.
268 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:49:11am |
re: #262 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!! ROBERT BYRD!!!!! HURR HURR!!!!!! GEORGE WALLACE!!!!! DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!11!!TY
Yeah it’s the obsession with looking at civil rights history with party labels and not nuances. The sad story though is if the Civil Rights movement was around now, I don’t think as many Republicans would have embraced it as they did in the 50’s and 60’s. That party’s pandered to a base that are the descendants of the people who were furious at integration.
269 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:50:08am |
re: #265 Justanotherhuman
Wow, I haven’t “been a Republican” since I was in the 5th grade and we wore “I Like Ike” buttons.
It was a catchy campaign slogan.
Ha, who didn’t like Ike then though?
270 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:50:28am |
How soon before the TP goes and claims that Boehner sold out and the TP-establishment fight resumes anew?
Anyone?
I give the over/under at 15 minutes.
271 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:52:00am |
re: #267 darthstar
With the GOP shooting itself in the foot over Immigration Reform, next March might not be such a big deal…could have a more balanced house by then.
Hard to say right now. What I do know is that immigration reform is pretty much dead, at least for this year. The base was pretty livid when the GOP released it’s “principles” a week ago, and a debt ceiling surrender is only going to further draw their ire.
272 | RadicalModerate Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:52:18am |
re: #260 HappyWarrior
He made it so far in the Republican party that President H.W Bush and the Republican establishment in Louisiana had to disawow his candidacy. Anyhow, would love to know what this twit thinks about Jesse Helms who got six terms in office by being a modern version of the Strom Thurmond who ran for president in ‘48. I still subscribe to the belief that civil rights is and was about ideology. A lot of old right wing dixiecrats refused to join the GOP because they still blamed the GOP for the “War of Northern Aggression.”
Yep.
Something else that should be brought up to the DEMS UR RASISTS! idiots.
When David Duke ran for political office as a Democrat, his vote total was around 0.04% (four-hundredths of one percent).
When he ran as a Republican, he got the highest vote total of any Republican running.
Which party is it again who identify with his racist ideals?
273 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:53:05am |
re: #268 HappyWarrior
When you look at the votes for civil rights (and current opposition to expanding civil rights protections to other classes) on a geographical basis, there’s a whole different game at play.
It’s the Southern States that continue to large oppose, regardless of what party label you’ve attached. It’s almost like a certain war of Southern Secession never happened from the rhetoric and ahistorical positions taken.
274 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:54:34am |
Good morning Lizards.
Cold and sunny in Philadelphia with clouds, snow, rain, cats and dogs living together, coming up in the next couple of days.
Last couple of essays on Stonekettle Station have been a bit inward looking. And also some of Jim Wright’s buttons being pushed I think.
I am sort of mixed in my reaction to the last two entries. I agree pretty heartily in that one needs to define oneself and not let one be labeled (and thus to a degree controlled) by others. However, you also need to be responsive to others since you are part of a community and not on an island. It seems to hinge on one deciding to take responsibility and acting that way due to it being right in their own eyes. But how does this apply for a community when someone reaches a self-definition that essentially comes out as rude and asshole behavior?
The more recent essay brings out one of the main issues with social networks - the abuse of said labels, use of them to short circuit discussion, and the ease by which mob mentality rises and then abuses people. And people do abuse this since they do not want to have discussion or take the time to understand opposing viewpoints. Easier to hypocritically toss out a label and unleash the hounds. And as above, how about cases when the target has actually been an asshole? The cases start to blur since how can you tell when someone is being unfairly labeled, and when someone has acted in ways that make the label valid in their case?
275 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:54:41am |
re: #269 HappyWarrior
Ha, who didn’t like Ike then though?
Yes, half a dozen year after the war and he was considered a war hero and someone who could lead the country forward.
Funny how today’s Republicans never talk about him.
277 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:55:15am |
re: #273 lawhawk
When you look at the votes for civil rights (and current opposition to expanding civil rights protections to other classes) on a geographical basis, there’s a whole different game at play.
It’s the Southern States that continue to large oppose, regardless of what party label you’ve attached. It’s almost like a certain war of Southern Secession never happened from the rhetoric and ahistorical positions taken.
Yeah geography is probably the biggest factor I’d say after ideology. VB I think though has made a wonderful point about the GOP. In 1964, the year CRA was passed they nominated an opponent of the bill for president. The next year the Dems nominated Humphrey who famously urged the party to get out of the shadows of states rights and into the sunshine of human rights and this was ‘1948.
278 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:56:41am |
re: #272 RadicalModerate
Yep.
Something else that should be brought up to the DEMS UR RASISTS! idiots.When David Duke ran for political office as a Democrat, his vote total was around 0.04% (four-hundredths of one percent).
When he ran as a Republican, he got the highest vote total of any Republican running.Which party is it again who identify with his racist ideals?
Right I believe Duke got over 40% running as a Republican. Likewise, I think if Duke ran in a liberal state like California, he would be lucky to get even ten percent of the vote.
279 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:57:03am |
re: #272 RadicalModerate
Yep.
Something else that should be brought up to the DEMS UR RASISTS! idiots.When David Duke ran for political office as a Democrat, his vote total was around 0.04% (four-hundredths of one percent).
When he ran as a Republican, he got the highest vote total of any Republican running.Which party is it again who identify with his racist ideals?
I just blocked that “SharpestJim” dumbfuck but you can have a go at him if you want.
281 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:57:16am |
re: #270 lawhawk
How soon before the TP goes and claims that Boehner sold out and the TP-establishment fight resumes anew?
Anyone?
I give the over/under at 15 minutes.
Grumblings of such over at RedState and FR already, and that was earlier this morning, before the surrender had been announced. Apparently the GOP leadership was signaling as early as Sunday that they’d rather fight over the continuing resolution than the debt ceiling.
282 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:58:06am |
Wow. I just Googled “David Duke Republican” and a blast-o from the past-o showed up third in the search results.
283 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 6:59:24am |
re: #202 Political Atheist
Having a big sad this morning. Rest In Peace Shirley Temple Black. She was contemporary to my long departed Mom, and was far and away her favorite actress/personality out there. If you are about my age, you probably drank a “Shirley Temple” when out with the adults at a nice restaurant as a kid.
This still happens. My daughter (now 17) used to order them all the time.
284 | ObserverArt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:00:13am |
re: #265 Justanotherhuman
Wow, I haven’t “been a Republican” since I was in the 5th grade and we wore “I Like Ike” buttons.
It was a catchy campaign slogan.
At least Ike was worthy of being liked. And as history has proved, his last state of the union address was very prescient. A speech everyone should read.
Hmm…I wonder if Dickless Cheney read it, or used it as a guide?
I wanted to do t-shirts that said: Abe, Teddy and Ike…Republicans I could like!
Then I figured with today’s level of political knowledge all it would do is cause people to go “Who’s Teddy?” “Abe, wha’?” Ike???
I wanted to do shirts back in the 70’s just after Nixon went to China that had a big ol’ building sprawling into the Chinese hillsides that said “The Great Mall of China.”
Another: “We win the cold war” with a Coke logo and bottle and a Levis logo with some jeans. I always figured America would win out with marketing ideas.
Heh, I’ve always been a little political with my graphic arts ideas and I used to silkscreen shirts for local bands in my basement while going to art college.
285 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:01:08am |
How to pass time on the train and amuse the entire internet too http://t.co/JJZDioA2QU— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 11, 2014
286 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:02:00am |
Debate heating up inside GOP over longtime determination to repeal Obamacare… http://t.co/Fe7NQLLWGf— Byron York (@ByronYork) February 11, 2014
All the GOP plans essentially start from the same place - repealing Obamacare before implementing some lesser version of the law that increases costs to the consumer, reduces the number of insureds, or otherwise rolls back the protections imposed by ACA on insurers to provide insurance that actually protects the insureds.
But the GOP is still playing word games trying to claim that their goal isn’t destroying Obamacare; so they’ll attempt to trot out plans that look like they’re fixing Obamacare, but the details give away the game. It’s still the same delay, defund, destroy ACA that they’ve been pushing since 2009.
287 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:02:23am |
re: #283 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
This still happens. My daughter (now 17) used to order them all the time.
I remember ordering Roy Rogers which I believe is just the same drink but something a boy orders. I never saw any of her movies but she was a legend for sure. Ended up being a diplomat later too in the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I administrations.
288 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:02:31am |
289 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:03:15am |
On clean debt ceiling, House Dem leaders instructed members: “don't gloat, take it in stride and hang together,” lawmaker in the room says— Ed O'Keefe (@edatpost) February 11, 2014
I’d be all smiles, though…
290 | ObserverArt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:03:51am |
re: #272 RadicalModerate
Yep.
Something else that should be brought up to the DEMS UR RASISTS! idiots.When David Duke ran for political office as a Democrat, his vote total was around 0.04% (four-hundredths of one percent).
When he ran as a Republican, he got the highest vote total of any Republican running.Which party is it again who identify with his racist ideals?
The Dems!!! Silly.
/// you ain’t gonna change those tiger’s stripe, no way, no how.
291 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:04:14am |
re: #286 lawhawk
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All the GOP plans essentially start from the same place - repealing Obamacare before implementing some lesser version of the law that increases costs to the consumer, reduces the number of insureds, or otherwise rolls back the protections imposed by ACA on insurers to provide insurance that actually protects the insureds.But the GOP is still playing word games trying to claim that their goal isn’t destroying Obamacare; so they’ll attempt to trot out plans that look like they’re fixing Obamacare, but the details give away the game. It’s still the same delay, defund, destroy ACA that they’ve been pushing since 2009.
They’re never going to make any progress if this continues to be their obsession while the signer of Obamacare remains in office. It’s like this is the only thing the Republicans think about. If they were truly smart, they’d look at the polls and realize that people like ACA, they don’t love it. So why not run on a platform of improving it. Oh wait, that would mean not being a party of vindictive dicks who are upset because other people now are insured. I thought this was the Republican party of Nixon that still had some humanity left.
292 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:04:59am |
re: #286 lawhawk
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All the GOP plans essentially start from the same place - repealing Obamacare before implementing some lesser version of the law that increases costs to the consumer, reduces the number of insureds, or otherwise rolls back the protections imposed by ACA on insurers to provide insurance that actually protects the insureds.But the GOP is still playing word games trying to claim that their goal isn’t destroying Obamacare; so they’ll attempt to trot out plans that look like they’re fixing Obamacare, but the details give away the game. It’s still the same delay, defund, destroy ACA that they’ve been pushing since 2009.
Case in point, the “alternative” released a couple weeks back in the Senate, which at even first glance was a non-starter. For a party that is so against new spending, the GOP certainly does love the idea of tax credits as a way to “encourage” people to adopt certain behavior. And “paying” for those by capping the employer deduction on health insurance is laughter inducing when you consider how much they’ve screamed that businesses are getting rid of health insurance due to the ACA.
293 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:05:37am |
Boehner gets ready for debt-limit presser pic.twitter.com/mNhvPOpENW— Robert Costa (@costareports) February 11, 2014
294 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:06:14am |
295 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:08:21am |
re: #291 HappyWarrior
They’re never going to make any progress if this continues to be their obsession while the signer of Obamacare remains in office.
They don’t care about progress. They don’t care about anything but being vindictive assholes. When Obama got elected in 2008, they made it their mission to make him a one-term president. They failed. Now they’re just determined to oppose him until he leaves office no matter the cost.
It’s like this is the only thing the Republicans think about.
Because it pretty much is.
296 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:08:27am |
re: #294 Varek Raith
What I miss?
Boehner capitulating on debt ceiling. At least that’s what Town Hall calls it.
I call it victory!
297 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:08:32am |
Morning weather update. It’s not looking good for the Southeast, with snow and freezing rain/ice in the forecast before coming up the Northeast:
Today's Weather: Major #WinterStorm affecting SE before moving into mid-Atlantic & Northeast: http://t.co/gD9vPulaQp pic.twitter.com/PBfzAgSrxP— NWS (@NWS) February 11, 2014
NYC metro area? NWS is predicting the potential for 6 inches or more for the area; more inland than by coastal areas.
I’m hoping that it stays cold for the snow; really can’t take more ice and the heavy slushy snow variety.
298 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:08:51am |
299 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:09:10am |
re: #260 HappyWarrior
He made it so far in the Republican party that President H.W Bush and the Republican establishment in Louisiana had to disawow his candidacy. Anyhow, would love to know what this twit thinks about Jesse Helms who got six terms in office by being a modern version of the Strom Thurmond who ran for president in ‘48. I still subscribe to the belief that civil rights is and was about ideology. A lot of old right wing dixiecrats refused to join the GOP because they still blamed the GOP for the “War of Northern Aggression.”
He also ran as a Republican during the 1992 presidential primaries. Seeing his name along with Pat Buchanan’s on the Mass. primary ballot was one of the things that soured me on the party.
300 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:09:18am |
re: #295 Lidane
They don’t care about progress. They don’t care about anything but being vindictive assholes. When Obama got elected in 2008, they made it their mission to make him a one-term president. They failed. Now they’re just determined to oppose him until he leaves office no matter the cost.
Because it pretty much is.
It’s going to bite them in the ass. Normally I wouldn’t care but this childish fit is coming at the cost of the country.
301 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:10:17am |
re: #299 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
He also ran as a Republican during the 1992 presidential primaries. Seeing his name along with Pat Buchanan’s on the Mass. primary ballot was one of the things that soured me on the party.
Didn’t Pat B end up winning the New Hampshire primary the next time? Yeah the “Live Free or die state” thought the closest the Republican party has ever had to an outright fascist was a good idea for a nominee.
302 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:10:47am |
Not a loaf of bread to be had today in Lincolnton, NC.
303 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:11:21am |
re: #287 HappyWarrior
I remember ordering Roy Rogers which I believe is just the same drink but something a boy orders. I never saw any of her movies but she was a legend for sure. Ended up being a diplomat later too in the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I administrations.
Shirley Temple is ginger ale and grenadine with a cherry garnish; Roy Rogers replaces the ginger ale with cola.
304 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:11:59am |
Oh, this is going to be fun. Cue the Freeper outrage:
Boehner says he has spoken with Pelosi about need for D votes, needs to find 18 R votes to help pass clean— Robert Costa (@costareports) February 11, 2014
305 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:12:49am |
306 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:13:14am |
Boehner sang “zippidee doo da… Plenty of sunshine coming my way” as he left press conference. No joke.— Robert Costa (@costareports) February 11, 2014
307 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:13:20am |
re: #305 Justanotherhuman
Tee hee, this is funny!
Bread aisle at Walmart in Denver, NC.
Let them eat cake.
308 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:13:34am |
re: #304 Lidane
Oh, this is going to be fun. Cue the Freeper outrage:
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And since there was talk that at least 150 votes existed to pass yesterday’s bill, finding 18 willing to put this madness to bed should not be a struggle.
I’m surprised, I figured Boehner would hold out til at least early afternoon before he gave up the game.
309 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:14:02am |
re: #303 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Shirley Temple is ginger ale and grenadine with a cherry garnish; Roy Rogers replaces the ginger ale with cola.
Ah that’s right. I remember liking getting a Rogers since I loved the cherry garnish. And then Dad tells me those aren’t as healthy as regular cherries. Rats and they’re sweeter too and no pit!
310 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:14:13am |
re: #305 Justanotherhuman
ZOMG, snow is coming! Ethel, run to the store and buy all the bread you can fit in the car!
311 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:14:27am |
re: #305 Justanotherhuman
Tee hee, this is funny!
Bread aisle at Walmart in Denver, NC.
You’d think it was the apocalypse.
312 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:14:40am |
This is beautiful, though. Sunrise this am in Gastonia, NC.
313 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:14:59am |
re: #309 HappyWarrior
Ah that’s right. I remember liking getting a Rogers since I loved the cherry garnish. And then Dad tells me those aren’t as healthy as regular cherries. Rats and they’re sweeter too and no pit!
When I was really small I used to make sandwiches with white bread, maraschino cherries and butter. Until my parents caught me at it.
314 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:15:07am |
@costareports @DemFromCT That's fine. Admitting he relies on Democrats to govern? The commercials write themselves.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 11, 2014
315 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:15:41am |
re: #313 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
When I was really small I used to make sandwiches with white bread, maraschino cherries and butter. Until my parents caught me at it.
Brilliant.
317 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:20:23am |
re: #314 darthstar
Our members aren’t [all batcrap] crazy. Yeah, Speaker Boehner, that ad writes itself.
You’ve just indicated that those who vote against the debt ceiling deal are, in fact, crazy. Thank you for recognizing what we’ve noted for a while, that the GOP is completely unhinged from reality and that the only thing they want is to see the President hurt politically at all costs, even if it destroys the economy in the process.
The GOP shutdown should have been a lesson in humility for the GOP, but we continue to see that the TP extortionists still can’t get the hang of governing. So, they’re railing against Boehner, who just wants to play out the string.
318 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:21:36am |
Maraschino cherries (and pecans) were the reason(s) I started really liking fruitcake.
One thing leads to another…and I have maraschinos in the fridge right now. Mmm. Put them in thumbprint sugar cookies. Pecans, too. Nibble around the edges until you get to the center of the cookies. Wham!
319 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:22:00am |
re: #304 Lidane
18 Repubs are going to get an F from Heritage Action and Club For Growth.
320 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:23:45am |
re: #319 Bulworth
18 Repubs are going to get an F from Heritage Action and Club For Growth.
And primary threats from the teabaggers.
321 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:27:18am |
Pat McCrory finally does something for the State of NC.
.@PatMcCroryNC: I signed a state of emergency in NC within the past hour #ncwx #cltwx— WBTV News (@WBTV_News) February 11, 2014
322 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:29:16am |
re: #318 Justanotherhuman
Maraschino cherries (and pecans) were the reason(s) I started really liking fruitcake.
One thing leads to another…and I have maraschinos in the fridge right now. Mmm. Put them in thumbprint sugar cookies. Pecans, too. Nibble around the edges until you get to the center of the cookies. Wham!
I actually lost my taste for maraschinos as I got older. Probably had something to do with my youthful overindulgence. I don’t think I’ve eaten one in 10 years.
My daughter can do that trick of tying a knot in a maraschino stem with her tongue, but I’ve never tried it.
323 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:29:56am |
*sigh*
You can't make this up: GOPers urge auto workers to follow the example of the Confederate Army, resist unionization http://t.co/TxaI0H3Yek— Salon.com (@Salon) February 11, 2014
324 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:34:54am |
325 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:35:48am |
Of course, I should mention that State trucks were sent out overnight on Sun-Mon am and brined the roads, so they are going to have to re-brine them for the actual storm, most of which will happen tomorrow, as it turns out.
It’s moving more slowly than expected. Now they say also expect high winds and power failures.
326 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:37:56am |
re: #320 Lidane
And primary threats from the teabaggers.
There’ll be more than than 18 voting more it, to ensure a safety margin, but those 18 will be either well-funded and popular incumbents, representing districts where the Tea Party is weak, or those from states where the filing deadline for the primary has already passed.
327 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:39:24am |
Doesn’t seem to be much reaction yet from the usual suspects to the latest GOP surrender, but I’m guessing that’s because they need to get their talking points in order first. I’ll go ahead and predict that they’ll excuse themselves from this embarrassment by finding some way to blame Democrats.
328 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:40:11am |
All the utility trucks sent up to NJ and PA to deal with the ice storm here from down South are being recalled, because of the major storm about to hit there.
Meanwhile, forecasters in NYC metro are starting to worry me with their latest forecasts.
Here's the snow expected Thursday @NASHFM947NY @thekellyford #SayitAintSnow pic.twitter.com/jRllorY9Ju— Amy Freeze (@AmyFreeze7) February 11, 2014
Channel 7 has been pretty good with forecasts this season, but Channel 11 has been better IMO.
The difference in the two forecasts so far? Channel 7 has real tight banding - you’re either going to get hammered, or you’re not seeing a whole lot of snow (the temps on LI will keep the snow totals down). Channel 11 has more snow over the entire area, with increases as you move north and west from NYC (suggesting the temps will be low enough for the entire area to get significant snow).
329 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:40:45am |
Ouch. Just hoping my rent doesn’t go up or if it does, just a little bit.
BREAKING: Home prices rose in 73% of U.S. metro areas in fourth quarter— Bloomberg TV (@BloombergTV) February 11, 2014
330 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:41:20am |
re: #323 Lidane
Right-wing groups including Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform are also working to defeat the union drive; billboards from ATR’s Center for Worker Freedom warn workers that “The UAW spends millions to elect liberal politicians, including BARACK OBAMA” and (quoting Reuters) that “almost every job lost at U.S. car factories in the last 30 years has occurred at a unionized company …” The Center for Worker Freedom is directed by Matt Patterson, the co-author of a May Op-Ed that described the UAW drive as “an invading union force from the North,” and said that “the people of Tennessee routed such a force in the Battle of Chickamauga,” when the Confederate Army stymied “an invading Union army” during the Civil War. “Let their descendants go now and do likewise,” he urged. (ATR did not respond to a Friday inquiry.)
But wasn’t the Confederate Army itself a form of collective action, a coercive entity, a kind of, uh, “union” of people organized to accomplish an objective?
331 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:41:26am |
Boehner calls vote on debt limit increase without conditions, tells members to “pretend it's like all those times you approved for Bush.”— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) February 11, 2014
332 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:42:38am |
re: #330 Bulworth
But wasn’t the Confederate Army itself a form of collective action, a coercive entity, a kind of, uh, “union” of people organized to accomplish an objective?
They were brave American patriots fighting a tyrannical President from Illinois!
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334 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:47:30am |
re: #333 Bulworth
Yeah, she’s a real forecaster in NYC metro.
But hardly the only one with a weather name.
Years back there was Dr. Frank Field, and his son, Storm Field. Both were forecasters in NYC metro.
Now? We’ve got Amy Freeze (her dad, of course, was Mr. Freeze).
335 | aagcobb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:47:42am |
re: #327 Targetpractice
Doesn’t seem to be much reaction yet from the usual suspects to the latest GOP surrender, but I’m guessing that’s because they need to get their talking points in order first. I’ll go ahead and predict that they’ll excuse themselves from this embarrassment by finding some way to blame Democrats.
The Democrats’ refusal to get out-of-control spending reigned in has forced us to borrow even more money from our children, otherwise the Democrats’ refusal to increase the debt limit responsibly would’ve destroyed the economy.
336 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:49:05am |
Pink-eyed Bob Costas: “I have no idea where I am”: http://t.co/Taqmt4TIwg— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 11, 2014
337 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:51:16am |
re: #332 Lidane
They were brave American patriots fighting a tyrannical President from Illinois!
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HURR HURRRRR!!!! DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISSTSSSS!!!!!!
@viciousbabushka @stevendickinson Slave owning Democrat's in a war with the Republic ? You tell me how it worked for you.— 2ANow (@2ANow) February 8, 2014
338 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:55:07am |
Iranian cartoon update: Baghdad newspaper bombed after cartoon of Iran’s Supreme Leader
Reporters Without Borders condemns yesterday morning’s bomb attack on the downtown Baghdad headquarters of the Al-Sabah Al-Jadid newspaper, five days after it published a much criticized cartoon of Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei. The explosion caused a great deal of damage but no injuries.
The offending cartoon illustrated an article in the newspaper’s 6 February issue, which was about the demonstrations being organized this week to mark the 34th anniversary of Iran’s Islamic Revolution and which criticized Mohammed Hidari, an Iraqi mullah who supports the Iranian regime.
339 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 7:56:27am |
re: #334 lawhawk
Yeah I remember Storm Field. Hard to top that name for a weather forecaster.
340 | Mattand Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:07:17am |
re: #328 lawhawk
All the utility trucks sent up to NJ and PA to deal with the ice storm here from down South are being recalled, because of the major storm about to hit there.
Meanwhile, forecasters in NYC metro are starting to worry me with their latest forecasts.
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Channel 7 has been pretty good with forecasts this season, but Channel 11 has been better IMO.The difference in the two forecasts so far? Channel 7 has real tight banding - you’re either going to get hammered, or you’re not seeing a whole lot of snow (the temps on LI will keep the snow totals down). Channel 11 has more snow over the entire area, with increases as you move north and west from NYC (suggesting the temps will be low enough for the entire area to get significant snow).
My only two hopes at this point are that the snow is powdery like Sunday, and the snow blower doesn’t keel over.
341 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:14:43am |
I think this is the dumbest twerp on Teh Twitters:
Before America needs a minimum wage hike it needs jobs - higher wages but fewer jobs is not a solution!#tcot @marthamaccallum— Janie Johnson (@jjauthor) February 11, 2014
342 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:14:49am |
Sad news this morning, Shirley Temple has died. Best remembered as a child movie star, she had a long and full adult life as a diplomat, wife and mother. RIP
343 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:16:49am |
re: #342 Dark_Falcon
Any clue what gun the guy on the left is firing? Damn thing sounds like a cannon.
Liveleak Video
344 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:17:43am |
re: #340 Mattand
Yeah, mine as well. I’ve got an electric one since I don’t have a large area to contend with, it’s flat, and I can hit all areas with a 50 foot cord (and don’t want to mess with having to deal with a gas engine and all that entails). But it’s crying out for help with all the heavy wet snow we’ve gotten. Next move? A flamethrower.
345 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:18:04am |
Let me try that video again….
Youtube Video
346 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:20:49am |
re: #341 Pie-onist Overlord
I think this is the dumbest twerp on Teh Twitters:
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Wait so you want higher wages yet you want employers to be able to hypothetically pay their employees practically nothing. Wingnut economics makes my head hurt.
347 | Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:21:03am |
re: #343 Killgore Trout
Any clue what gun the guy on the left is firing? Damn thing sounds like a cannon.
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Looks like M249 SAW
348 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:21:21am |
The comments over at Breitbart re: the GOP plan to pass a clean debt limit hike are hilarious and predictable. Cries of ZOMG RINO and AIDING AND ABETTING everywhere. Fun times.
349 | Dr. Matt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:21:49am |
re: #341 Pie-onist Overlord
Before America needs a minimum wage hike it needs jobs - higher wages but fewer jobs is not a solution!#tcot
@marthamaccallum
Only a RWNJ could possibly root against Americans making more money and getting health care. It’s pretty sad that their party is so hellbent on seeing people suffer….really suffer. Health care is an essential part of life. Everyone needs health care. This is not partisanship, it’s a fact. And yet the GOP, which is turning further and further right, is so determined to undermine the needs for Americans whether it be health care, wages, feeding the poor and children, women’s choices, etc. I shudder at the thought of far right GOP president in 2016. This country won’t survive.
350 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:23:27am |
HURR HURRRR!!!!! PAY THEM $1/HOUR, NO MOAR WELFARES, & MAKE THEM BUY EVERYTHING AT TEH COMPANY STOAR!!!!!1!!TY
If America raises the minimum wage to $10 an hour, then perhaps it ought to lower welfare to the same amount!#tcot @marthamaccallum— Janie Johnson (@jjauthor) February 11, 2014
351 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:23:35am |
re: #340 Mattand
The European model is showing colder air, leading to more snow.
The GFS model is showing warmer temps, meaning snow turning to ice. The worst scenario IMO.
352 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:24:21am |
If raising #MinimumWage causes fewer jobs, how LITTLE should workers be paid to create MORE JOBS? #UniteBlue #tcot #lnyhbt— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 11, 2014
353 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:25:15am |
re: #347 Decatur Deb
Looks like M249 SAW
Thanks. It fires a 5.56×45mm NATO bullet cartridge. Pretty hefty for a “light’ machine gun
354 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:25:47am |
She was ten. MT @JRBoh: 1938: a witness told HUAC that Shirley Temple was a Communist sympathizer. pic.twitter.com/ESahPVSZuK— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) February 11, 2014
355 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:25:58am |
It used to be the argument was not to raise the minimum wage too often as to avoid inflation. This was the conservative position in the past and it’s actually close to the Dems position now. The conservative position now is to abolish the min wage entirely. More conservative devolution in action.
356 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:26:33am |
re: #352 Pie-onist Overlord
Pay everyone $2.13 an hour and let them work for tips.
357 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:26:47am |
358 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:26:57am |
Taliban suspected as hand grenades tear through Pakistan movie theater in Peshawar
A Pakistani intelligence official told CBS News the attack took place Tuesday afternoon when at least 50 people had gathered inside the Shama theater.
“All three grenades exploded in that part of the cinema where most of the film watchers were sitting. The casualty count is likely to go up further,” said the official, who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity.
…
Taliban militants have attacked Peshawar’s movie theaters in the past — the Islamic extremists consider movies and popular music sacrilegious.
359 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:28:47am |
Twisting the knife:
Schumer to House GOP: Nice caving on the debt limit. Now do it on immigration. http://t.co/RfLCOaQibK— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 11, 2014
Still not happy with Schumer’s plan to push immigration enforcement to 2017, but anything to further annoy the Freepers today is a good thing.
360 | Dr. Matt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:29:04am |
re: #353 Killgore Trout
Thanks. It fires a 5.56×45mm NATO
bulletcartridge. Pretty hefty for a “light’ machine gun
Same round that is chambered in the M4/M16/AR15….the weapon of choice of those who murder our children in schools and movie theatres…..and the same weapon that the RWNJs worship.
361 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:30:13am |
362 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:30:50am |
re: #360 Dr. Matt
Same round that is chambered in the M4/M16/AR15….the weapon of choice of those who murder our children in schools and movie theatres…..and the same weapon that the RWNJs worship.
It sounds a lot bigger than AR 15 fire.
363 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:31:47am |
re: #360 Dr. Matt
That’s the standard issue rifle in our military you’re talking about. Demonizing it or its cartridge in that fashion is out of line.
364 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:32:36am |
For a sidebar, how about drivers who don’t read signs closely enough and think that their vehicle will fit where it just doesn’t belong.
And the sad thing is that the local DOT and the owner of the rail trestle think they’ve fixed the problem with enough signs, a crash bar, and that’s it. No attempt to actually fix the problem by raising the trestle or lowering the road (which apparently has a sewer that can’t be moved easily).
365 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:33:33am |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
That’s the standard issue rifle in our military you’re talking about. Demonizing it or its cartridge in that fashion is out of line.
Do you not understand that the military having assault weapons is different from civilians having assault weapons?
366 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:33:52am |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
I think that’s the point being made - that a weapon and ammo meant for military use has found frequent application in mass shootings across the country.
367 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:34:11am |
How is it that some companies will ignore a job applicant for weeks and others will contact you in a matter of days? I just got an email from a recruiter for a company that I applied to over the weekend while a company that I did a follow-up screening for three weeks ago still hasn’t said a word. WTF.
368 | Dr. Matt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:34:27am |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
That’s the standard issue rifle in our military you’re talking about. Demonizing it or its cartridge in that fashion is out of line.
Waaahhhh. Give me a fucking break. I wasn’t demonizing it. I own one and carried one in the military.
369 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:35:14am |
re: #365 Eclectic Cyborg
Do you not understand that the military having assault weapons is different from civilians having assault weapons?
What I heard was liberal anti-gun yurping.
370 | aagcobb Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:35:17am |
re: #349 Dr. Matt
This country won’t survive.
Sorry, I have to call you on that, though I assume you didn’t mean it literally, like the rwnjs who have been insisting the country wouldn’t survive Obama’s presidency. Yes a Tea Party President would be a disaster, but this country survived the Civil War, the Great Depression and WWII; fours years of another bad president won’t kill it.
371 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:35:59am |
re: #367 Lidane
How is it that some companies will ignore a job applicant for weeks and others will contact you in a matter of days? I just got an email from a recruiter for a company that I applied to over the weekend while a company that I did a follow-up screening for three weeks ago still hasn’t said a word. WTF.
I don’t get it either. I applied to a position on Thursday. Basically a paying version with more responsibilities and obviously full time of what I’m doing now. Never thought I’d be doing HR stuff but if it pays the bills……..
372 | Dr. Matt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:36:22am |
re: #369 Dark_Falcon
What I heard was liberal anti-gun yurping.
Of course you did. Typical politically correct conservative sensibilities.
373 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:36:23am |
re: #367 Lidane
How is it that some companies will ignore a job applicant for weeks and others will contact you in a matter of days? I just got an email from a recruiter for a company that I applied to over the weekend while a company that I did a follow-up screening for three weeks ago still hasn’t said a word. WTF.
Safe to say you probably didn’t get that job. If they really wanted you, they wouldn’t have dragged their heels so long.
Welcome to the agonizing, frustrating, soul crushing wonderful world of job searching,
374 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:37:02am |
re: #369 Dark_Falcon
What I heard was liberal anti-gun yurping.
Then your ears must be messed up I think.
375 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:37:20am |
re: #373 Eclectic Cyborg
Safe to say you probably didn’t get that job. If they really wanted you, they wouldn’t have dragged their heels so long.
Welcome to the
agonizing, frustrating, soul crushingwonderful world of job searching,
or as i call the past two years after graduation. And this shit is why I don’t have the blind faith in the private sector that many on the right seem to have.
376 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:37:31am |
Ready! Fire! Aim!
Here comes the backlash: Tea Party group pushes to unseat Boehner after GOP's debt ceiling surrender http://t.co/KBv3kxCC01— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 11, 2014
377 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:38:45am |
Maybe this item wasn’t lost, but tossed into the bear’s den.
German zoo’s polar bear swallows jacket, dies
I hate zoos.
378 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:38:45am |
re: #376 Lidane
Ready! Fire! Aim!
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Yeah, think about that for a second, guys. Who would replace Boehner? There’s no wingnut in the House that could win over enough votes to take his spot, and without a candidate they can unify behind, the GOP is liable to fracture and allow Democrats to put Pelosi back in the speakership.
379 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:39:20am |
HURR HURR!!!!1!!!
@Serafinos @SharpestJim @viciousbabushka @CCWinNJ Just too freakin' good - meaning hilarious b/c it's so retarded pic.twitter.com/va461xaGiP— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 11, 2014
380 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:40:03am |
re: #373 Eclectic Cyborg
Safe to say you probably didn’t get that job. If they really wanted you, they wouldn’t have dragged their heels so long.
Probably. It would still be nice to get a standard “thanks but we’re going with someone else” form letter. I won’t be heartbroken about losing that one, though. It was pretty much a call center job without actually being in a call center. I was looking at it as a filler gig until I got something better.
Welcome to the
agonizing, frustrating, soul crushingwonderful world of job searching,
I’ve been here since October. I’m ready to leave. Blah.
381 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:40:22am |
“Atomiktiger” who just called me a “Libtard” is the one who spams all the gun-fucking memes.
382 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:40:42am |
re: #379 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!!1!!!
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Says all you need to know about someone’s intellectual capabilities when they call you a libtard.
383 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:42:10am |
Heh.
9>8 pic.twitter.com/XHX67VeAXQ— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) February 11, 2014
384 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:42:49am |
re: #379 Pie-onist Overlord
HUH? Is right.
Not “white people” but #DEMOCRATS
They were the segregationists :)
Who are all now voting as GOPers. The party affiliation has changed in 100+ years, but the racism, classism, and policies of a certain segment of the population in the South haven’t.
385 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:42:56am |
Atomiktiger is really butthurt about his stupid Rosa Parks meme.
@Serafinos @SharpestJim @viciousbabushka @CCWinNJ and MERGE them into a scenario where Rosa Parks gets shot by racist Democrats— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 11, 2014
@Serafinos @SharpestJim @viciousbabushka @CCWinNJ Only a #libtard could possibly take a meme drawing a parallel between unalienable rights &— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 11, 2014
386 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:43:09am |
Heh.
JUST IN: The House will vote TONIGHT on the debt limit because of the impending snow storm on the east coast.— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorpNBC) February 11, 2014
387 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:45:17am |
re: #384 lawhawk
Who are all now voting as GOPers. The party affiliation has changed in 100+ years, but the racism, classism, and policies of a certain segment of the population in the South haven’t.
Precisely. I mean what I love about this pathetic crap is in one breath they’re complaining about how the Dems support the federal government getting involved and then in the next breath they’re comparing them to an ideology rooted in states rights whether that was for slavery or later segregation. Pick a fucking narrative about us already. I’m either a Nazi KKKer or a multiculturalist chewing quinona while wearing flipflops listening to Phish.
388 | Ian G. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:45:45am |
re: #357 HappyWarrior
Red scares such a stupid black mark on our country’s history.
No dumber than the SOOPER SEKRIT KENYAN MUZLIM scare.
389 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:46:13am |
re: #378 Targetpractice
Yeah, think about that for a second, guys. Who would replace Boehner? There’s no wingnut in the House that could win over enough votes to take his spot, and without a candidate they can unify behind, the GOP is liable to fracture and allow Democrats to put Pelosi back in the speakership.
That would be hilarious if that happened. Unlikely but it would be just desserts for the purer than thou who would lose their majority due to their own obsession with refusing to compromise.
390 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:46:36am |
391 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:47:02am |
#RWNJ debating skills==>RT @atomiktiger: Just too freakin' good - meaning hilarious b/c it's so retarded pic.twitter.com/uckumTgplc #UniteBlue— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 11, 2014
392 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:47:52am |
re: #375 HappyWarrior
or as i call the past two years after graduation. And this shit is why I don’t have the blind faith in the private sector that many on the right seem to have.
It’s like I said the other day. It’s easy to find a job if you’re willing to absolutely anything, including high pressure/low wage/no benefits position but actually trying find a decent job with a living wage? Sometimes it seems you’d have better luck trying to find Jimmy Hoffa.
393 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:47:57am |
re: #386 Justanotherhuman
Heh.
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Erick, Son of Erick is on the warpath today. He’s decided that it’s not enough to vote against the legislation itself, any Republican who votes for the rule related to the bill will be treated the same as voting to raise the debt ceiling, even if they ultimately vote against the bill.
394 | Ian G. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:48:39am |
re: #391 Pie-onist Overlord
I’m completely fine with these imbeciles thinking that all liberals are either hippies dancing with a flute or “gangstas” and “welfare queens”. It means they won’t know what hit them in many an upcoming election, as was the case in 2012.
395 | b.d. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:49:06am |
GOHMERT FOR SPEAKER!! OR ALLEN WEST, YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE CONGRESSS TO BE ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!!!!1! ELECT WEST SPEAKER AND WATCH THE LIBTARDS HEAD’S EXPLODE!!
396 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:49:13am |
re: #379 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!!1!!!
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@atomiktiger @Serafinos @SharpestJim @viciousbabushka @CCWinNJ The use of “retarded” in that fashion is ugly and hateful. #tcot #UniteBlue
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) February 11, 2014
397 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:49:53am |
re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s like I said the other day. It’s easy to find a job if you’re willing to absolutely anything, including high pressure/low wage/no benefits position but actually trying find a decent job with a living wage? Sometimes it seems you’d have better luck trying to find Jimmy Hoffa.
Precisely. I mean yeah I could get a job at a place like Harris Teeter but I wouldn’t be using the skill-set I’ve acquired. The other annoying thing that employers do to recent grads is just offer them internships. Agh. Sorry rambling but I am really hoping I get this position. It will give me a lot of freedom that I haven’t had.
398 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:50:21am |
re: #395 b.d.
Ted Cruz for Speaker! You shouldn’t have to be in the House to run it.
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399 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:50:55am |
re: #395 b.d.
GOHMERT FOR SPEAKER!! OR ALLEN WEST, YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE CONGRESSS TO BE ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!!!!1! ELECT WEST SPEAKER AND WATCH THE LIBTARDS HEAD’S EXPLODE!!
I’d welcome Gohmert being speaker since the dumb fuck would find out immediately that he doesn’t belong on a small town school board let alone a part of our national assembly.
400 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:51:34am |
Beck for speaker, you don’t have to be sane or a House member!
401 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:51:42am |
re: #393 Targetpractice
Erick, Son of Erick is on the warpath today. He’s decided that it’s not enough to vote against the legislation itself, any Republican who votes for the rule related to the bill will be treated the same as voting to raise the debt ceiling, even if they ultimately vote against the bill.
Erick, Son of Erick can go piss in the wind. Because that’s about what he wants is going. : )
Alternatively, perhaps his head will explode…
402 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:52:21am |
403 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:54:08am |
Putin is the new Reagan, says admirer of Russia's “gay propaganda” ban http://t.co/WXGXTFwWWg— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 11, 2014
404 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:54:33am |
re: #396 Dark_Falcon
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You, as a defender of NRO’s racism (is there another way to interpret your downding on the previous thread?) have a warped sense of ‘ugly and hateful’.
405 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:54:35am |
In which the right wing tries to demonize unions, because a handful may actually have had perks typically reserved for most CEOs of major corporations:
@Heminator Union bosses have private jets?!? Why wasn't this discussed when CEO excess was being pilloried during TARP era?— Terry Miller (@mrmiller1972) February 11, 2014
Yeah, a union boss with a plane doesn’t quite look right to a guy on the line, but the company CEO is still making far more coin than the union bigwigs, not to mention all the perks. They pay disparity doesn’t disappear because you cherry pick a union that happened to have a plane available for its top leaders. The company shareholders get rich on paying the bare minimum to workers who actually create the products being offered, and cry for givebacks when their own bad business decisions cost the company.
Look no further than AOL (a non union shop) where they complained that a couple of sickly babies cost the company enough (that would be about $2 million) to force changes on the 401k even though the CEO’s decision to go hyperlocal with Patch cost the company more than $200 million.
We’d just have to ignore that the company was self insured with reinsurance, so AOL wouldn’t suffer the “loss” - that’s what insurance is for, and the 401k changes would have deprived anyone at the company of benefits over the life of employment with the company because they’d lose out on the compounding of the match over time, and anyone who stopped working before the distribution date would lose out on that year’s match. From a view of trying to keep workers, there’s a certain logic to trying to retain workers, but the overall policy would simply send workers to companies with more favorable benefits.
406 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:54:36am |
Speaking of guns: There’s no concealed carry in Chicago but these guys were unlucky enough to rob an off duty cop.
Off-duty sergeant fatally shoots teen during robbery (video)
407 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:55:47am |
re: #401 Justanotherhuman
Erick, Son of Erick can go piss in the wind. Because that’s about what he wants is going. : )
Alternatively, perhaps his head will explode…
I’m curious as to who amongst the House GOP’s “conservative” caucus will ultimately vote for the rule just to be done with the whole mess.
408 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:55:59am |
re: #402 Dark_Falcon
Bah. That’s nothing.
In Russia, tanks have right of way. Always. Even crossing highways.
409 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:56:45am |
Project much? @atomiktiger #UniteBlue #lnyhbt #tcot #teaparty pic.twitter.com/D0R5ftciP7— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 11, 2014
410 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:57:02am |
WTF? Reporters were told not to use any electronic devices, also, and to stand back.
ON SCENE: KCMO Bomb Squad getting ready to detonate device found in white truck. Female fugitive in custody pic.twitter.com/hX0DoHoMzG— Mitch Weber (@mitchweber) February 11, 2014
411 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:57:14am |
re: #403 Lidane
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Did someone not tell them that Reagan for all his faults opposed a law banning gay individuals from teaching? No, Putin’s not the next Reagan. Even someone who despises Reagan like me wouldn’t put Reagan and Putin in the same sentence. Putin is the new Castro actually when it comes to gays. So there you go Mr. Feder, you’re more like Fidel Castro then Ronald Reagan on LGBT rights. Good job. You look fabulous.
412 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:00:41am |
FRC though does get at my big problem with the right on gay issues. This isn’t opposition to gay marriage which is awful by the way but opposition to seeing gays and lesbians as human beings who deserve equality and protection under the law. And teh fucks have the nerve to claim they’re persecuted when officials simply speak out for LGBT rights. Fascist fucks. The religious right is a blight on our country.
413 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:00:42am |
re: #410 Justanotherhuman
WTF? Reporters were told not to use any electronic devices, also, and to stand back.
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Same story?
wsau.com
The Marathon-Oneida County Bomb Squad was dispatched to investigate the contents of the duffel bag. When they X-Rayed it, it turned out to be diapers.
Poop!
414 | Gus Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:02:20am |
re: #391 Pie-onist Overlord
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@HK91A2 My preference is impeach, remove, arrest for treason, try, convict, publicly execute.— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 11, 2014
415 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:03:15am |
417 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:03:50am |
re: #323 Lidane
*sigh*
You can’t make this up: GOPers urge auto workers to follow the example of the Confederate Army, resist unionization
Translation: Sell yourselves into slavery or we’ll do it for you.
419 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:04:13am |
re: #414 Gus
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All over a health care reform law? Gee, I wonder what he would have wanted to do Obama if Iran-Contra happened on his watch.
420 | Gus Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:04:49am |
re: #419 HappyWarrior
All over a health care reform law? Gee, I wonder what he would have wanted to do Obama if Iran-Contra happened on his watch.
Claim it never happened?
422 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:07:41am |
re: #420 Gus
Claim it never happened?
Ha, I think you misunderstand. I am saying if something actually criminal like IC happened under Obama, what would be Mr. I want to publicly exucute POTUS want. How lame is it they’re up in arms over legislation that makes it easier for them to get insurance?
423 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:07:45am |
@Dark_Falcon7 @SharpestJim @Serafinos @viciousbabushka @CCWinNJ by the word “retarded”. You don't like it? Go pound sand— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 11, 2014
@Dark_Falcon7 @SharpestJim @Serafinos @viciousbabushka @CCWinNJ See, that's the beauty of liberty. I have the freedom to use that word.— atomiktiger (@atomiktiger) February 11, 2014
424 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:08:09am |
re: #421 Gus
And for being REagan’s fall boy, Ollie very nearly well became my Senator. Conservative principles in action!
425 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:08:33am |
426 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:09:20am |
re: #423 Pie-onist Overlord
Sure he has the freedom to use it, but the rest of us have the freedom to complain. How about that?
427 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:09:21am |
re: #425 Eclectic Cyborg
Better than a “Friend of Hamas” I guess.
I’m a friend of Hummus. Does that mean anything?
428 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:09:30am |
The gun-fucker is REALLY REALLY OUTRAGED that Dark took him to task for using the word “retard.”
429 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:10:00am |
re: #426 Eclectic Cyborg
Sure he has the freedom to use it, but the rest of us have the freedom to complain. How about that?
You have the right to use racial slurs and I have the right to call you a racist prick who is still fighting the Civil War.
430 | blueraven Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:10:14am |
431 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:12:41am |
.@RepGutierrez gave @SpeakerBoehner an incredible earful about his inaction on immigration this morning. Must read: pic.twitter.com/sgyMBCRozy— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) February 11, 2014
432 | b.d. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:12:58am |
Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and other tech titans collectively added their names Monday to a growing list of websites and organizations supporting a digital day of protest Tuesday against the National Security Agency’s spy programs.
Google, Facebook and Microsoft are demanding online privacy?
433 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:14:24am |
Got back in touch with the recruiter that contacted me today. I’ve got a short phone interview with her at 3pm. My guess is that it’s an initial screen to see if they want me to come in person. We’ll see.
434 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:14:53am |
435 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:16:00am |
Atomik is in a frenzied rage now. Thanks, Dark!
436 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:17:08am |
re: #430 blueraven
Doubtful.
One is in Kansas, one is in Wisconsin.
Ah thanks. Nothing showing up yet on google news about Wisconsin.
437 | Gus Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:19:34am |
438 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:20:21am |
439 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:21:38am |
440 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:22:47am |
Keeping tabs by Doppler radar on this county. Appears in this part it will be maybe an hour or so before we see any flakes…
441 | Gus Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:25:22am |
442 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:26:33am |
re: #404 wrenchwench
You, as a defender of NRO’s racism (is there another way to interpret your downding on the previous thread?) have a warped sense of ‘ugly and hateful’.
I read Mark Kirikorian’s column, which RWW failed to provide a link to, and I didn’t find it to be racist at all. It was correct in saying that the deportation deferrals for illegal immigrants had had caused massive delays for those seeking a green card legally. Kirikorian did not defend Samuel Francis’ racism, but rather said that Francis had a workable definition of the result of the Obama Administration’s actions, which is not the same thing.
So I do defend Mark Kirikorian, wholeheartedly.
443 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:27:58am |
re: #428 Pie-onist Overlord
The gun-fucker is REALLY REALLY OUTRAGED that Dark took him to task for using the word “retard.”
Yep, he spewed a stream of bile and invective. So I blocked him.
444 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:28:53am |
re: #432 b.d.
Confused about what’s being protested here. The phone-gathering metadata stuff or something else?
445 | Gus Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:29:09am |
re: #439 Pie-onist Overlord
That’s the gun-fucker?
Here you go. This should piss him off even more.
Edited.
446 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:30:27am |
447 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:30:45am |
re: #433 Lidane
Got back in touch with the recruiter that contacted me today. I’ve got a short phone interview with her at 3pm. My guess is that it’s an initial screen to see if they want me to come in person. We’ll see.
Fingers crossed for you!
448 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:31:10am |
You don’t want to piss off the gun-fuckers too much, because: GUNS
450 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:34:08am |
Sr #US officials tell @NBCNews White House hasnt yet given order to launch drone strikes against 2 Americans believed to be in #Pakistan— Ayman Mohyeldin (@AymanM) February 11, 2014
Also,
#US officials tell NBC News administrations classified #drone strikes policy doesnt prohibit #CIA from conducting strikes against Americans
451 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:34:33am |
re: #439 Pie-onist Overlord
That’s the gun-fucker?
Interestingly, he’s out of Seattle and he’s a 3rd degree contact of mine on LinkedIn (I’ve got thousands of those, so it’s not a big surprise). Hopefully blocking him on Twitter has ended the issue.
452 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:38:27am |
HURR HURR!!!! TEH JRRB CREATORS IS SO GRATE, PEOPLE SHUD BE SO GREATFULL TO HAVE A JRRB FROM THEM FOUR NOTHING!!!1!!!!!! THEN THEY CAN CREEYATE TEH MOAR JRRBS!!!!1!!!
#2016CampaignGroundRules: “Those who get rich by creating jobs & sparking innovation - have given to, not taken from, society!”#tcot #Kudlow— Janie Johnson (@jjauthor) February 11, 2014
453 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:40:02am |
re: #452 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!! TEH JRRB CREATORS IS SO GRATE, PEOPLE SHUD BE SO GREATFULL TO HAVE A JRRB FROM THEM FOUR NOTHING!!!1!!!!!! THEN THEY CAN CREEYATE TEH MOAR JRRBS!!!!1!!!
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And no one is saying they haven’t done good things. We’re just saying that it’s stupid in a modern society for them to get paid 100 times more than the average worker and for them to have to pay little taxes.
454 | b.d. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:40:30am |
RE: HOLLANDE AND OBAMA REMARKS
No mention of Snowden or NSA surveillance in official remarks. This was not a real issue between these two allies. Germany, a diff story— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) February 11, 2014
455 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:40:41am |
I mean if conservatives want to talk about high taxes, look at some of the stuff that Hollende has proopsed in France. If you think Clinton era tax brackets for the wealthy are too high, frankly gfy.
456 | Kragar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:41:20am |
re: #452 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!! TEH JRRB CREATORS IS SO GRATE, PEOPLE SHUD BE SO GREATFULL TO HAVE A JRRB FROM THEM FOUR NOTHING!!!1!!!!!! THEN THEY CAN CREEYATE TEH MOAR JRRBS!!!!1!!!
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I remember when things like consumer demand created jobs. I guess that is an outdated concept nowadays.
457 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:41:38am |
re: #448 Pie-onist Overlord
You don’t want to piss off the gun-fuckers too much, because: GUNS
Indeed. Posting someone’s photo on Twitter like that counts as a major escalation in my book. You’re basically telling them “I know who you are” and letting them know you can associate their real name with the ugly Twitter persona. That’s the kind of escalation that could drive an already enraged person into seeing you as a direct threat. Best not to do that.
458 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:41:50am |
I see GG’s rag is back online.
What a nothing-burger.
459 | b.d. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:41:52am |
This is sure to p*ss off the wingnuts somehow:
It is official. POTUS will go to Normandy to mark 70th anniversary of D-Day in June
— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) February 11, 2014
460 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:42:50am |
re: #459 b.d.
How much will this cost taxpayers?????!??!?!?11111
461 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:42:58am |
re: #311 Varek Raith
People are idiots I swear. There were people in the store here yesterday with 2 or 3 carts loaded down. I left the store, we have enough food to get through til Sunday. My kid is home because the State of GA shut down his school as a precaution, The Husband works about 5 miles from here and will be home before the ice forms on the road. We’ve got food, we should probably get some more firewood, but I have a feeling there’s none to be had around here now. My big concern really is trees falling over from the ice load, which is the main thing that would take out the power. But really, 2 or 3 carts full of food? Who the hell even has that much room in their fridge, freezer or pantry? Idiots. The snow will be melted by Sunday, more likely Friday.
462 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:43:54am |
re: #452 Pie-onist Overlord
As opposed to those who get rich without creating jobs…
463 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:44:03am |
re: #459 b.d.
This is sure to p*ss off the wingnuts somehow:
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It will and we’ll see the stupid photo collages where Reagan at Pointe du Hoc is a true American patriot (wonderful speech there he made btw) and an unflattering photo of Obama. I’m sure Obama will give a wonderful speech for the occasion. Sad to know we’re losing more and more WWII vets daily. I know it’s a passage of time but it really makes me think about men like my great uncles who fought in the war all but one I never knew.
464 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:44:35am |
re: #462 Bulworth
As opposed to those who get rich without creating jobs…
Or people who get rich by creating shit jrrbs, like the Waltons.
465 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:44:39am |
re: #462 Bulworth
As opposed to those who get rich without creating jobs…
or those who get rich by destroying jobs.
466 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:44:40am |
re: #440 Justanotherhuman
Keeping tabs by Doppler radar on this county. Appears in this part it will be maybe an hour or so before we see any flakes…
There already seems to be an overabundance of flakes in Twitter.
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467 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:44:53am |
re: #452 Pie-onist Overlord
Yes all those jobsz being created all around us!!!1
468 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:48:49am |
469 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:49:41am |
And there is this ever-popular meme, why do people keep Tweeting this shit? Is Tom Sowell such a libertarian prick, is he saying that nobody should pay taxes?
#Qs4Liberals & @Jehmu:What is your ‘fair share’ of what someone else has earned?#tcot pic.twitter.com/YA9Aouk0BC @marthamaccallum @JedediahBila— Janie Johnson (@jjauthor) February 11, 2014
470 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:50:13am |
Waiting for RW response on this one, too.
Hollande: “Our countries have always been allies, always been friends, but now we trust each other in an unprecedented manner.”— Reid J. Epstein (@reidepstein) February 11, 2014
471 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:51:13am |
re: #470 Justanotherhuman
Waiting for RW response on this one, too.
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472 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:51:54am |
re: #442 Dark_Falcon
Kirikorian did not defend Samuel Francis’ racism, but rather said that Francis had a workable definition of the result of the Obama Administration’s actions, which is not the same thing.
So basically, you’re agreeing with a white supremacist’s definitions because an NRO writer quoted them? Come on Dark. You know better than that.
473 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:52:18am |
Wingnuts keep pounding this idiotic meme of HURR HURR!!!!! TEH LIBRULS WANTS EVERYWUN 2 QUIT THERE JRRBS AND TAKE ALL TEH WELFARES FROM TEH HARD WURKIN JRRB-CREEYATIN CONSERVATIFS!!!!1!!!!
Obama slogan: “Pay your #Obamacare taxes (& higher premiums) so that some who vote for us can choose not to work!”#tcot #Hannity #KellyFile— Janie Johnson (@jjauthor) February 11, 2014
474 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:52:59am |
re: #455 HappyWarrior
I mean if conservatives want to talk about high taxes, look at some of the stuff that Hollende has proopsed in France. If you think Clinton era tax brackets for the wealthy are too high, frankly gfy.
I think it’s hilarious that conservatives point to all the things Ike did, like the interstate highway system, but they never mention the marginal tax rates for the rich or the capital gains taxes at the time.
475 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:55:31am |
re: #474 Lidane
I think it’s hilarious that conservatives point to all the things Ike did, like the interstate highway system, but they never mention the marginal tax rates for the rich or the capital gains taxes at the time.
Conservatives are frankly idiots when it comes to understanding cause and effect in policy. They think oyu can have low taxes and spend more than the other top the countries spend combined on defense. I’d respect their position more if they weren’t spouting out Norquist style crap on taxes.
476 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:55:33am |
Pres. Obama on NSA: “When it comes to ordinary citizens in France, we are respectful of their privacy rights.”— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) February 11, 2014
But what about Snowden’s rights? He had to go to Russia to be safe from Obama’s dronez!
477 | Kragar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:56:00am |
I can be a job creator.
I need someone to clean my back yard and garage.
I’m not going to pay you, but its a job I created, you ungrateful wretches!
478 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:56:55am |
re: #469 Pie-onist Overlord
And there is this ever-popular meme, why do people keep Tweeting this shit? Is Tom Sowell such a libertarian prick, is he saying that nobody should pay taxes?
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Of course! And he can build his own roads, own schools, yada yada yada, if he wants to think that way.
What an asshat. I’m sure he’s made a good living at it, though.
479 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:57:18am |
POTUS on NSA: “It's not actually correct to say we have a no-spy agreement with Britain. There's no country where have a no-spy agreement”— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) February 11, 2014
480 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:00:01am |
re: #473 Pie-onist Overlord
Obama will never get re-elected now.
481 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:00:28am |
This has to be a parody, but it made me laugh anyway.
I don't want to surve in Obama's Nazi Yooth militia #p2 #uniteblue #tcot #lnyhbt #teaparty pic.twitter.com/9fuMLMWjvE— Leyla (@MiamiLib) February 11, 2014
483 | Lidane Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:00:47am |
re: #475 HappyWarrior
Conservatives are frankly idiots when it comes to understanding cause and effect.
Case in point? Immigration:
Keep yer gubmint hands off mah money! Low taxes! End the fed!
Small gubmint! Individual liberty!
Round up and deport 12 million illegals!
I’d respect their position more if they weren’t spouting out Norquist style crap on taxes.
Norquist’s position is basically the same one taken by someone who has no fucking idea how a functional government works. No wonder the GOP loves it.
484 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:00:50am |
485 | Pie-onist Overlord Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:01:19am |
Shirley Temple was such a dear part of my childhood, I even forgive her for being a Republican.— Harold Itzkowitz (@HaroldItz) February 11, 2014
486 | ObserverArt Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:01:27am |
re: #369 Dark_Falcon
What I heard was liberal anti-gun yurping.
Damn Dark. Do you not realize there are centrist and Republicans that feel the same way? it wouldn’t surprise me if there are military people that feel the same way.
You don’t like when people stereotype Republicans, so what the hell did you just do?
487 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:01:52am |
re: #478 Justanotherhuman
Thomas Sowell, sucking up those wealthy wingnut welfare dollars.
488 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:02:07am |
re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord
Atomik is in a frenzied rage now. Thanks, Dark!
It’s what happens when a person’s drug of choice is hate. They get high and then all hell breaks loose.
489 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:03:33am |
re: #483 Lidane
Case in point? Immigration:
Keep yer gubmint hands off mah money! Low taxes! End the fed!
Small gubmint! Individual liberty!
Round up and deport 12 million illegals!
Norquist’s position is basically the same one taken by someone who has no fucking idea how a functional government works. No wonder the GOP loves it.
Precisely and excellent point about their stance on immigration. I mean I have obviously ideological qualms with it too but it’s like “Okay, you want to put that same government that you don’t trust for health care in charge of deporting 12 million people?” Okay……….. But yeah, I hate to be harsh and call them idiots but goddamn it when conservatives act like they have a superior understanding of economics to liberals I just laugh because of shit like that. The disconnect is amazing and yeah the fact that Norquist who is government illiterate has the influence he does is truly pathetic.
490 | Eventual Carrion Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:04:17am |
re: #403 Lidane
Could be right, Pootie is making deals with Iran too.
491 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:04:57am |
re: #487 Bulworth
Thomas Sowell, sucking up those wealthy wingnut welfare dollars.
Their pal Walter Williams, hates on government institutions yet gets his salary paid for by the VA taxpayers. It’s a healthyl racket if you know how to work it. Kind of like how R elected officials rage about government health care while having their own paid for by you and I.
492 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:06:50am |
re: #265 Justanotherhuman
Wow, I haven’t “been a Republican” since I was in the 5th grade and we wore “I Like Ike” buttons.
It was a catchy campaign slogan.
Prior to the last election I saw a bumper sticker that said
“I liked Ike so much I voted for him in 1952, 1956 & 2008. ”
Next to it was an Obama 2012 sticker too.
He was old enough to mean it :) But hey, Obama has been the best Center-Right Republican president since Ike…
493 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:08:09am |
re: #492 William Barnett-Lewis
Prior to the last election I saw a bumper sticker that said
“I liked Ike so much I voted for him in 1952, 1956 & 2008. “
Next to it was an Obama 2012 sticker too.
He was old enough to mean it :) But hey, Obama has been the best Center-Right Republican president since Ike…
Yeah better than Clinton since Obama’s been better on social issues and he of course got the health care legislation passed.
494 | Ian G. Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:09:18am |
re: #487 Bulworth
Thomas Sowell, sucking up those wealthy wingnut welfare dollars.
Seriously. Since when has Thomas Sowell ever actually worked for anything?
495 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:09:25am |
re: #396 Dark_Falcon
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Nice try DF, but as the saying goes, “by their fruits you shall know them”. We’ve seen that one’s fruits.
496 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:09:51am |
re: #481 Pie-onist Overlord
This has to be a parody, but it made me laugh anyway.
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I hope so but you know the fact that we’re even pondering shows you how nuts some people are.
497 | Jayleia Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:10:35am |
re: #495 William Barnett-Lewis
And their fruits are all in cake format…
498 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:11:46am |
re: #494 Ian G.
Seriously. Since when has Thomas Sowell ever actually worked for anything?
Yeah I love reading columns and or hearing some blowhard on the radio lecturing the working poor about their work ethic. Rush Limbaugh? That sob has made his living putting people down. My great grandfathers weren’t wealthy men but they made at least a honest living being coal miners, engineers, and printers rather than being the living incarnation of Squealer the Pig.
499 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:13:39am |
re: #442 Dark_Falcon
I read Mark Kirikorian’s column, which RWW failed to provide a link to, and I didn’t find it to be racist at all. It was correct in saying that the deportation deferrals for illegal immigrants had had caused massive delays for those seeking a green card legally. Kirikorian did not defend Samuel Francis’ racism, but rather said that Francis had a workable definition of the result of the Obama Administration’s actions, which is not the same thing.
So I do defend Mark Kirikorian, wholeheartedly.
I hope that’s only because you don’t know Mark Krikorian very well, and not because you fail to recognize a racist when you see one.
He did not exhibit racism in that column, except by the fact of his casual quotation of a noxious man, regarding his very noxious, racist beliefs.
Direct links to this are broken, but I found multiple citations:
[F]or those actually interested in the point, here’s what I was trying to get across: While in the past there may well have been too much social pressure for what sociologists call Anglo-conformity, now there isn’t enough. I think that’s a concern that most Americans share at some level, which is the root of the angst over excessive immigration, bilingual education, official English, etc.
More racism:
But Krikorian says legislation like the Dream Act shouldn’t apply to people like Vargas — because he arrived in the United States at the age of 12.
“The moral case that you can make for the Dream Act — or something like the Dream Act … really only applies, it seems to me, to people whose identities have been formed here, who have no memory of any other country, who really are — as some of the advocates sometimes put it — are Americans in all but paperwork,” he says. “This doesn’t really cover a lot of the people who would be covered under the current version of the Dream Act, including Mr. Vargas. The man has real abilities and real skills, and he should go home to his country of citizenship, the country he grew up in for most of his childhood.”
Some from NRO in 2010:
My guess is that Haiti’s so screwed up because it wasn’t colonized long enough. The ancestors of today’s Haitians, like elsewhere in the Caribbean, experienced the dislocation of de-tribalization, which disrupted the natural ties of family and clan and ethnicity. They also suffered the brutality of sugar-plantation slavery, which was so deadly that the majority of slaves at the time of independence were African-born, because their predecessors hadn’t lived long enough to reproduce.
But, unlike Jamaicans and Bajans and Guadeloupeans, et al., after experiencing the worst of tropical colonial slavery, the Haitians didn’t stick around long enough to benefit from it. (Haiti became independent in 1804.). And by benefit I mean develop a local culture significantly shaped by the more-advanced civilization of the colonizers. Sure, their creole language is influenced by French, but they never became black Frenchmen, like the Martiniquais, or “Afro-Saxons,” like the Barbadians. Where a similar creolization took place in Africa, you saw a similar thing — the Cape Coloureds, who are basically black Afrikaaners, and even the Swahili peoples of the east African coast, who are Arabized blacks. A major indicator of how superficial is the overlay of French culture in Haiti is the strength of paganism, in the form of voodoo — the French just weren’t around long enough to suppress it, to the detriment of Haitians.
His work at CIS and FAIR (founded by John Tanton) are enough for me to conclude where his heart lies.
500 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:15:35am |
re: #499 wrenchwench
I hope that’s only because you don’t know Mark Krikorian very well, and not because you fail to recognize a racist when you see one.
He did not exhibit racism in that column, except by the fact of his casual quotation of a noxious man, regarding his very noxious, racist beliefs.
Direct links to this are broken, but I found multiple citations:
More racism:
Some from NRO in 2010:
His work at CIS and FAIR (founded by John Tanton) are enough for me to conclude where his heart lies.
Yikes. And shocker another asshole obsessed with “Anglo culture” being superior to non anglo culture adn the comment about Haiti is really a WTF.
501 | BeenHereAwhile Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:30:04am |
re: #312 Justanotherhuman
This is beautiful, though. Sunrise this am in Gastonia, NC.
“Red sky in the morning, sailor take warning.”
502 | darthstar Tue, Feb 11, 2014 10:38:42am |
re: #454 b.d.
RE: HOLLANDE AND OBAMA REMARKS
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@chucktodd Germany not really a different story, either, at the end of the day. Snowden seen more and more as a liability by all countries.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 11, 2014
503 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 11:10:56am |
re: #239 darthstar
Mornn’ all. Good read here:
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The fugitive NSA contractor, so the narrative goes, has sacrificed his career and risked his freedom to expose systematic wrongdoing by Western intelligence agencies: he has shown that America and Britain spy not only on their enemies and rivals, but on neutral and friendly countries too. They target international summits and foreign leaders. They hoover up and store vast quantities of information about domestic e-mails and phone calls. They use secret court orders to force American-based companies into cooperation. They can bug almost any international phone call, e-mail or other message.
“systematic wrongdoing” = “systematic intelligence and signals work”
505 | chadu Tue, Feb 11, 2014 11:32:09am |
506 | palomino Tue, Feb 11, 2014 5:53:43pm |
re: #485 Pie-onist Overlord
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Shirley Temple was a Republican before the party had completely devolved into religious bigotry, far right anti-government extremism, anti-abortion fanaticism, a bizarre fetish for guns, and an open hositility to gays, immigrants, et al.