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1 brennant  May 20, 2014 3:35:48pm

I was on the couch reading Dune for the upteenth time, and David Lynch’s Dune was on TV.

I had forgotten how terrible that move really is. One or two great scenes mixed with truly awful acting (by good actors even).

I turned it off, and returned to my book.

2 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 3:38:21pm

re: #1 brennant

I was on the couch reading Dune for the upteenth time, and David Lynch’s Dune was on TV.

I had forgotten how terrible that move really is. One or two great scenes mixed with truly awful acting (by good actors even).

I turned it off, and returned to my book.

It’s horrible. When I first heard about it I was really looking forward to it, but it’s probably the worst movie Lynch ever made. And in the bottom 10 worst movies ever.

3 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 3:38:26pm

Heh.

I’d read awhile ago that Steven Spielberg was who Lucas wanted to direct ROTJ. I found it again on Cracked.

We at Cracked present to you Revenge of the Jedi

[my note - it’s original title]

directed by Steven Fucking Spielberg. Yep, that’s who we would have gotten had it not been for Lucas’ dispute with the union. And we’re talking 1982 Spielberg, a man in the middle of a run that included Raiders of the Lost Ark, Poltergeist, and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Try to wrap your mind around how awesome this would’ve been: Yoda’s death was nearly staged by the same man who shot E.T. The rancor was almost handed to the same man who directed Jurassic Park. The Battle of Endor and the attack on the shield generator were nearly captured by the same dude who won an Oscar for Saving Private Ryan.

Read more: cracked.com

4 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 3:39:31pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

It’s horrible. When I first heard about it I was really looking forward to it, but it’s probably the worst movie Lynch ever made. And in the bottom 10 worst movies ever.

Yet still amazingly watchable, in a MST3K style.

5 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 3:39:51pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

It’s horrible. When I first heard about it I was really looking forward to it, but it’s probably the worst movie Lynch ever made. And in the bottom 10 worst movies ever.

There’s a fanedit of Lynch’s Dune that’s actually quite good. It’s called “Dune - Alternative Edition Redux (fanedit)”.

It’s tolerable.

6 Kragar  May 20, 2014 3:44:47pm

re: #4 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yet still amazingly watchable, in a MST3K style.

I wonder if they would do a Rifftrax for it.

7 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 3:46:34pm

WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TEDDY BEARS?

8 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 3:48:20pm

re: #7 BongCrodny

WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TEDDY BEARS?

And why are the Stormtroopers chasing them while carrying cell phones?
//

9 Kragar  May 20, 2014 3:49:18pm
10 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 3:56:55pm
11 allegro  May 20, 2014 3:58:15pm

I remember Miss Lucy, my kindergarten teacher, talking about how oil was a finite resource and that we needed to find other sources of energy to maintain our way of life because we were on an unsustainable course.

This was in 1957. A kindergarten teacher in Enid, OK.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 3:58:20pm
13 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 3:59:40pm

re: #11 allegro

I remember Miss Lucy, my kindergarten teacher, talking about how oil was a finite resource and that we needed to find other sources of energy to maintain our way of life because we were on an unsustainable course.

This was in 1957. A kindergarten teacher in Enid, OK.

That would sort of make sense in an oil-producing region that was already starting to suffer from depletion. The local effects would be incredibly obvious.

14 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 4:02:11pm

OT - but a blog post on a niche history area.

medievalists.net

15 allegro  May 20, 2014 4:08:06pm

re: #13 Feline Fearless Leader

That would sort of make sense in an oil-producing region that was already starting to suffer from depletion. The local effects would be incredibly obvious.

My dad was at the time the credit manager for Champlain Oil, “the great name in the great plains.” (I can still hear the musical jingle in my head.)

I always think of her when people seem so surprised by the concept that our current methods are UNSUSTAINABLE. If a kindergarten teacher could see this in 1957… let’s just say that the fact we are where we are now, still debating the issue politically and with irrevocable damage having been done in the intervening years, is so fucking depressing.

16 Bubblehead II  May 20, 2014 4:08:12pm

Evening Lizards. IT’S (my) FRIDAY!.

17 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:08:24pm

re: #11 allegro

I remember Miss Lucy, my kindergarten teacher, talking about how oil was a finite resource and that we needed to find other sources of energy to maintain our way of life because we were on an unsustainable course.

This was in 1957. A kindergarten teacher in Enid, OK.

In the middle of the oil and gas industry? They knew, even then.

But stored grain doesn’t bring in as much money as teh oil…

18 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 4:15:17pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

That there were so many great actors on that movie, and it ended up being that bad (and it’s still among my favorite bad movies), tells you something about Lynch and what he was trying to do.

BBC America just had the extended version on, and it was epic in its badness. For whatever reason, the visual quality was even worse than I remember, and it was 4 hour runtime.

19 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 4:17:09pm

Polls have closed in Georgia.

Here are the election results as they get counted.

results.enr.clarityelections.com

Kentucky

results.enr.clarityelections.com

20 brennant  May 20, 2014 4:18:00pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

It’s horrible. When I first heard about it I was really looking forward to it, but it’s probably the worst movie Lynch ever made. And in the bottom 10 worst movies ever.

I am not sure Dune will ever be (or can be) made into a good movie.

The SyFy (?) was equally bad. I remember my brother and I calling each other while it was on and laughing very hard at some scenes.

21 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:20:09pm

In the Kentucky US Senate race, I want to point out that Bevin is a complete wingnut teabagger Libertarian, so a crushing defeat for him is just fine with me.
HOWEVER, as I check the various local reports, it’s very interesting (and a comfort) that Alison Lundergan Grimes’ vote totals as compared to the R primary numbers are very impressive so far.
Also, I know many Republicans who will be voting for Alison in November. I don’t know a single Democrat that will be voting for Mitch.

I know it’s still very early, but via wlwt.com here’s how it’s shaking up so far:

22 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 4:23:23pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

It looks like it’s all over, unless I’m not reading the chart correctly.

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:25:34pm

There are a bunch of Libertarian wingnuts who were on my ballot for local/county offices. It takes a while for those precinct results to get to the county seat.
And, I’ve heard of polling place shenanigans today.

I sit and cringe whilst waiting…

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:26:26pm

re: #22 Skip Intro

It looks like it’s all over, unless I’m not reading the chart correctly.

yep, the races are already being called for McConnell and Grimes.
It’s going to get really ugly between now and November.

25 danarchy  May 20, 2014 4:26:42pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Glenn Beck is going to have a sad

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:30:10pm

re: #25 danarchy

Glenn Beck is going to have a sad

indeed. He just LOVED Bevin.

27 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:30:24pm

And it begins…

28 allegro  May 20, 2014 4:30:42pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, the races are already being called for McConnell and Grimes.
It’s going to get really ugly between now and November.

Bet it won’t hold a candle to the ugliness we’re fixing to get hit with here in Texas with the race between Wendy Davis and Dewhurst. I am prepared for misogyny to end all misogyny. “Abortion Barbi” is just the appetizer.

29 bratwurst  May 20, 2014 4:31:32pm
30 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:31:47pm

re: #28 allegro

Bet it won’t hold a candle to the ugliness we’re fixing to get hit with here in Texas with the race between Wendy Davis and Dewhurst. I am prepared for misogyny to end all misogyny. “Abortion Barbi” is just the appetizer.

Maybe. But it’s not going to be pretty here in Kentucky. They’re already going after Alison about abortion.

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:32:48pm

re: #29 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

The 2013 population was 49,947 per the United States Census Bureau.

Extrapolate away…

32 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:34:42pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #28 allegro

How the Rs frame those races, if they’re true to form, will end any semblance of the Republican Party being anything but total reactionaries.

Women politicians have really come into their own in the last 20 years, and there’s no stopping us now. Sorry, boys, but no matter what you do to try to poison the well of progress, it only makes you look worse than ever.

And we’re ready for a Madam President as well.

33 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 4:35:05pm

I just wanted to stop by to say this kind of #FAIL makes my day:
Federal Appeals Court Nixes Geller & Spencer’s “Disparaging” SIOA Trademark

34 allegro  May 20, 2014 4:35:50pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe. But it’s not going to be pretty here in Kentucky. They’re already going after Alison about abortion.

Jeez. I hope this year’s elections get women to the polls in record numbers. It’s so time that “I am woman, hear me roar” becomes an anthem for action.

35 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 4:36:59pm

re: #19 Skip Intro

Polls have closed in Georgia.

Here are the election results as they get counted.

results.enr.clarityelections.com

Kentucky

results.enr.clarityelections.com

That’s a very nice reporting format. Looking good for Grimes, to draw heavy in an unexciting primary

36 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 4:38:06pm

Pits Of Hell Broun isn’t doing so well in GA, but that’s probably just an illusion.

37 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 4:39:31pm

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

How the Rs frame those races, if they’re true to form, will end any semblance of the Republican Party being anything but total reactionaries.

Women politicians have really come into their own in the last 20 years, and there’s no stopping us now. Sorry, boys, but no matter what you do to try to poison the well of progress, it only makes you look worse than ever.

And we’re ready for a Madam President as well.

Yes. But I wish it was Madame Elizabeth.

38 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 4:43:53pm

Enough politics for the day. Day 5 of jackhammering outside. Going to digest dinner in peace, read, and play stuff like this louder than normal.

Youtube Video

(Nice choral music, good video, very good female vocalist - Ofra Haza)

39 Ryan King  May 20, 2014 4:44:24pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

Pits Of Hell Broun isn’t doing so well in GA, but that’s probably just an illusion.

That’s a lie from the pits of hell.

40 klys  May 20, 2014 4:45:39pm

As we watch the election returns dribble in, I figure being sick and muzzy headed is an excellent time to attempt crafting that requires lots of counting, because that’s the point I’m up to.

Slowly adding the dirt-magnet …I mean white… thread.

41 JustMark  May 20, 2014 4:47:54pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are a bunch of Libertarian wingnuts who were on my ballot for local/county offices. It takes a while for those precinct results to get to the county seat.
And, I’ve heard of polling place shenanigans today.

I sit and cringe whilst waiting…

What sort of shenanigans?

42 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:52:32pm

Allison Grimes has been called winner of the Dem primary, and this one, also.

Elisabeth Jensen wins Democratic nomination in Kentucky’s 6th Congressional District to challenge Republican Rep. Andy Barr - @AP
End of alert

43 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:55:12pm

re: #41 JustMark

What sort of shenanigans?

For example, a family who always voted at a precinct in the county seat found out today that their precinct had been moved (without notification) to another location about a half-hour away.
We are not that big of a county, population-wise, but huge geographically.

Other people had changed their voter registration (well before the deadline for doing so), but found out that nothing had changed when they showed up to vote.

44 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 4:55:18pm

re: #42 Justanotherhuman

Allison Grimes has been called winner of the Dem primary, and this one, also.

Elisabeth Jensen wins Democratic nomination in Kentucky’s 6th Congressional District to challenge Republican Rep. Andy Barr - @AP
End of alert

get ready for mansplainin 2014 the political season

45 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 4:57:19pm

heh…

46 Ryan King  May 20, 2014 4:59:41pm

Squawk Radio is raving about how victorious conservatives are today.

Extrapolate away.

47 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:01:15pm
48 bratwurst  May 20, 2014 5:03:56pm

Now that Mitch McConnell has vanquished the Tea Party, we can look forward to him tacking back to his more centrist roots, right?

Ok, maybe not…he still has to make sure he has the mouth breather wing of the party fired up for the general.

But after November, we can look forward to SENATE MAJORITY LEADER McConnell really resume being the moderate we used to know, right?

Ok, maybe not…he would be in a position of having to wrangle more than a few wackos just in the Senate.

So at what point will be able to stop calling him a moderate centrist?

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:05:59pm

re: #48 bratwurst

I think Alison is gonna open up a huge can of whoopass on Mitch in November.

50 allegro  May 20, 2014 5:06:53pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The stuff of nightmares for me. I can tangle with a bobcat and pick up a rattler without batting an eyelash, but a bee/wasp in my house or car will turn me into a quivering mass of irrational terror.

51 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 5:07:32pm

I just got around to watching the clip, and all I can say is that it needs more Eraserhead.

52 GeneJockey  May 20, 2014 5:07:51pm

Another cycling pic for WW - nice big patch of pretty green leaves, saying “Run through me! Roll in me! Smear me all over your face!”

53 Gus  May 20, 2014 5:09:00pm

54 klys  May 20, 2014 5:09:16pm

re: #52 GeneJockey

Here’s how I would ride in a professional cycling race.

55 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:09:47pm

BEES! AAAAHHHH! BEES!

/freakout

56 GeneJockey  May 20, 2014 5:10:24pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

I just got around to watching the clip, and all I can say is that it needs more Eraserhead.

[Embedded image]

When we were still young and foolish, the future Mrs. Jockey dragged me to a double feature of “Freaks” and “Eraserhead”.

As the lights were going down for “Eraserhead” to start, she turned to me and said, “The images you see in this film will be with you the rest of your life.”

Damned is she wasn’t correct!

57 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:10:52pm

OT, but yesterday a guy with a trackhoe snagged and tore down my telephone line, so I was without phone and internet for many MANY hours.
Instead of internet withdrawal symptoms, I went on a reading binge.
Finished up Upton Sinclair’s “The Moneychangers”…yowser!
Now 2/3 of the way through Snorri Kristjansson’s “Swords of Good Men”, an Icelandic Viking novel with lots of blood, guts, old gods vs White Christ, betrayal and intrigue. I’m at the part of the book where shit is really happening. I like it.

58 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 5:11:42pm

re: #56 GeneJockey

I saw Eraserhead exactly one time decades ago and it still bothers me.

59 GeneJockey  May 20, 2014 5:12:03pm

re: #54 klys

Here’s how I would ride in a professional cycling race.

Sure you’re up to leaning out the window, sewing up a crash victim while going 30 mph down a narrow windy road?

60 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 5:12:38pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Not good. Poor bees.

61 wrenchwench  May 20, 2014 5:13:27pm

re: #52 GeneJockey

Another cycling pic for WW - nice big patch of pretty green leaves, saying “Run through me! Roll in me! Smear me all over your face!”

[Embedded image]

I saved sumthin for you too, but I gotta do a couple of things before I dig it up….

62 klys  May 20, 2014 5:13:50pm

re: #59 GeneJockey

Sure you’re up to leaning out the window, sewing up a crash victim while going 30 mph down a narrow windy road?

Well, I’m definitely not going to be on a bike.

Nope, wouldn’t be here.

63 GeneJockey  May 20, 2014 5:14:25pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

I saw Eraserhead exactly one time decades ago and it still bothers me.

Yeah. “Freaks”, as disturbing as it might be, was pretty mild stuff by comparison.

64 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:17:30pm

Heads up northern Illinois lizards!

65 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:20:37pm

BEEEEEEEES!

66 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 5:20:59pm

Looks like Pits of Hell Broun is starting to make his move. He’s still way behind, but that’s only in one county. Of course, the guy who is in the lead could be even crazier.

I’ll have to check to see which one gets Chuck Todd all hot and bothered to know for sure.

Ah, I see I don’t need to wait for Todd after all. I just found out that the leader is the choice of L. Brent Bozo, so that clears things up.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:22:07pm

ooops…

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:23:52pm

wingnut tears…

69 allegro  May 20, 2014 5:25:32pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

BEEEEEEEES!

Cut that out!

70 klys  May 20, 2014 5:25:42pm

OH GOD YES PLEASE DELIVER HERE.

71 Ryan King  May 20, 2014 5:25:49pm

BEES FROM THE PITS OF HELL

72 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:27:04pm

Been seeing these all day, laughing every time…

Where the hell do these people come from?

73 Bubblehead II  May 20, 2014 5:27:05pm

Night Lizards. I came, I saw and and I leave.

Sleep well. If you can.

Prepper?, they don’t even have a fucking clue. Do some research.

Night.

74 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 5:30:15pm

So, my friend the salesman said that a customer refused to shake his hand due to MERS.

What cable station is promoting the fear I wonder?

75 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 5:30:47pm

Elderly client (to help us guess)

76 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:32:53pm

I am delighted to announce that there was a 39% voter turnout in my county and every single wingnut Libertarian candidate for local county office was soundly defeated.

77 allegro  May 20, 2014 5:33:36pm

re: #71 Ryan King

BEES FROM THE PITS OF HELL

I sic giant tarantulas on you.

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:37:23pm

heh…

79 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:38:47pm

sore loser…

80 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:38:56pm

Uh oh. Registered today:

ResurrectTheRepublic.com

81 wrenchwench  May 20, 2014 5:39:08pm

re: #63 GeneJockey

Here you go. 2D bikes and watches, together.

Vimeo

82 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:41:31pm

Why are all these nuts from Arizona?

83 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:42:43pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Uh oh. Registered today:

ResurrectTheRepublic.com

yay! BBQ time!

84 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 5:42:55pm
85 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:43:03pm

It’s one of the Operation American Spring whackos. Just checked the website - completely out there.

86 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:43:35pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

HAIL! AAAHHH! HAIL!

87 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:45:38pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Been seeing these all day, laughing every time…

[Embedded content]

Where the hell do these people come from?

Those are not “people” my friend they are spambots.

88 wrenchwench  May 20, 2014 5:45:57pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Why are all these nuts from Arizona?

In Montana, it’s dental floss. In Arizona, it’s wingnuts. That’s all I got.

89 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 5:48:22pm
90 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:48:38pm

Oh Resurrect!! Toro! Toro!

91 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 5:49:54pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Uh oh. Registered today:

ResurrectTheRepublic.com

i don’t surrect in the first place much less resurrect

92 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 5:49:59pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Uh oh. Registered today:

ResurrectTheRepublic.com

Friend of Cicero, supports the execution of Cataline.

93 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 5:51:11pm

re: #90 Pie-onist Overlord

#RedNationRising

It’s been trying to rise for how many years now? #TryViagra

94 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:52:30pm
95 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 5:53:31pm

re: #93 Sergey Romanov

It’s been trying to rise for how many years now? #TryViagra

Oh wait, he must’ve meant Russia. #nevermind

96 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:54:14pm

Stay classy, Stacy

97 EPR-radar  May 20, 2014 5:55:23pm

re: #77 allegro

I sic giant tarantulas on you.

Doesn’t everyone love cute fluffy spiders the size of small dogs?

98 jaunte  May 20, 2014 5:55:41pm

re: #94 Pie-onist Overlord

When the HailBees come, no bullets will save them.

99 Varek Raith  May 20, 2014 5:57:12pm

re: #98 jaunte

When the HailBees come, no bullets will save them.

DO NOT GIVE SCYFY ANY IDEAS

100 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 5:57:48pm

re: #96 Pie-onist Overlord

Stay classy, Stacy

If women just locked themselves in rooms and armed themselves heavily, none of them would be raped. It’s obviously their fault if they go out in public without wearing a burka.

Yet again, a correspondence between Christian and Muslim extremists: a firm conviction that the male tendency to lust is ungovernable and it’s entirely the fault of women if they expose themselves to that.

101 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 5:58:32pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

DO NOT GIVE SCYFY ANY IDEAS

Beenado.
Night of the Apis.
Hell Hive.

102 Gus  May 20, 2014 5:59:02pm
103 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 5:59:22pm

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

104 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 5:59:41pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

DO NOT GIVE SCYFY ANY IDEAS

BEENADO!

105 klys  May 20, 2014 6:00:11pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

We should start a betting pool to the first Benghazi mention.

106 jaunte  May 20, 2014 6:00:28pm

Beenghazi!

107 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 6:00:28pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

You never know. He might post page after page of gibberish, pop up with the occasional troll comment and never respond, or stealthily downding. It’s all a rich tapestry.

108 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 6:00:31pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Beenado.
Night of the Apis.
Hell Hive.

re: #104 BongCrodny

BEENADO!

Aw, nuts.

109 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:00:44pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

Could be a Platonist. Nahh..

110 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:00:46pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

i never get to have any fun

111 bratwurst  May 20, 2014 6:01:04pm

re: #96 Pie-onist Overlord

Stay classy, Stacy

The fact that some right wingers still don’t understand that it isn’t a great idea to opine on the subject of rape is one of the things that gives me hope for November.

112 jaunte  May 20, 2014 6:01:06pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

We could just bee with him a while.

113 Varek Raith  May 20, 2014 6:01:36pm

re: #108 BongCrodny

Aw, nuts.

I’m convinced Dec works for ScyFy now.

114 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:02:12pm
115 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:02:28pm

re: #112 jaunte

We could just bee with him a while.

We’ll smoke him out soon enough.

116 klys  May 20, 2014 6:02:51pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

We’ll smoke him out soon enough.

What if that just makes him waspish?

117 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:02:54pm

The Fall of Beerlin.

Youtube Video

/sorry

118 b.d.  May 20, 2014 6:02:56pm

FIRST AMENDMENT!!1!

119 wrenchwench  May 20, 2014 6:03:01pm

re: #106 jaunte

Beenghazi!

Beenghazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzi!

120 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:03:36pm

re: #116 klys

What if that just makes him waspish?

“Oh Derp, where is thy sting?”

121 Belafon  May 20, 2014 6:03:50pm

re: #108 BongCrodny

If these pay for their regular sci fi series, I will watch them all.

122 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:04:01pm

Beer.

123 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 6:04:06pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

…is a former NJ Firefighter, a card carrying member of Oath Keepers, and a boots on the ground liberty activist. He rode in the lead truck in the Truckers Ride For the Constitution and coordinated main stream media for the event.

There was more than one?

124 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:04:50pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

Beenghazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzi!

Been there, done that.

125 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:05:33pm

re: #124 Sergey Romanov

Been there, done that.

Quite your beetching.

126 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:05:36pm

He’s probably pissed off about palmerkiss’s Page. That would be my guess.

127 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:05:58pm

re: #125 Gus

Quite your beetching.

… and bee yourself.

128 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 6:06:02pm

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hive.

129 klys  May 20, 2014 6:06:16pm

re: #127 Sergey Romanov

… and bee yourself.

That’s where the buzz is at these days.

130 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:06:19pm

BASRAC

wtf

131 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:06:58pm

re: #128 BongCrodny

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hive.

He’s swarm to silence, so far.

132 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:07:14pm

Global swarming.

133 klys  May 20, 2014 6:08:08pm

re: #132 Sergey Romanov

Global swarming.

It’s all evidence of the liberal elite hive mind attempting to take over the planet!

134 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:08:12pm

re: #132 Sergey Romanov

Global swarming.

DRONESSS…

135 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:08:28pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Good one :D

136 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:08:28pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

BASRAC

wtf

Be A Stupid Republican Ass Cracker

137 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:08:31pm

Beerth certificate.

138 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:09:03pm

re: #123 BongCrodny

…is a former NJ Firefighter, a card carrying member of Oath Keepers, and a boots on the ground liberty activist. He rode in the lead truck in the Truckers Ride For the Constitution and coordinated main stream media for the event.

and is a major crank magnetism victim

139 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:09:13pm

re: #137 Gus

Beerth certificate.

Is that what the best beer has?

140 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:09:40pm

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Is that what the best beer has?

That would bee mead.

141 klys  May 20, 2014 6:10:13pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

That would bee mead.

Dammit, renfaire season isn’t for another 4 months around here. And now I want a cyser and mead blend.

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 6:10:16pm

Saturday Night Hive.

143 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:11:06pm

re: #123 BongCrodny

…snip He rode in the lead truck in the Truckers Ride For the Constitution and coordinated main stream media for the event.

There was more than one?

Rode the last truck, too.

144 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:11:36pm

Planet of the Apis.

145 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:12:38pm

MOAR HATCHLING BAIT
This is the lamest shit ever. Let’s mock it!

146 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:12:44pm

BASRAC! AAAHHHH! BASRAC!

147 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:12:58pm
148 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 6:13:23pm

re: #96 Pie-onist Overlord

Stay classy, Stacy

That guy sure looks familiar. Did he have a relative who liked to hang out in beer halls in Munich in the 1920s?

149 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:13:24pm

A legislação actualmente em vigor, apenas permite abater um avião em caso de suspeita de estar envolvido em narcotráfico, sobretudo em zonas de fronteira. O novo decreto permitirá o abate de qualquer aeronave que se aproximar de áreas proibidas nas 12 cidades-sede de jogos.

The current legislation only allows you to shoot down a plane on suspicion of being involved in drug trafficking, particularly in border areas. The new decree will allow the killing of any aircraft approaching prohibited in 12 cities hosting games areas.

150 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:13:39pm

re: #141 klys

Dammit, renfaire season isn’t for another 4 months around here. And now I want a cyser and mead blend.

If you do Renfairs, check out this group—monsters on the western circuit:

circapaleo.com

Lot’s of stuff on YT.

151 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:13:50pm
152 Jack Burton  May 20, 2014 6:14:54pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

It’s not often we see this coming and can prepare for the whole entertaining spectacle that is about to unfold.

153 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:15:08pm
154 Kragar  May 20, 2014 6:15:14pm

Did I miss all the bees?

Youtube Video

155 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:15:34pm

BASRAC, The Lord of PAIN!

156 jaunte  May 20, 2014 6:15:45pm

re: #152 Jack Burton

It’s not often we see this coming and can prepare for the whole entertaining spectacle that is about to unfold.

It might just be a late-night dead thread manifesto dump.

157 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:15:52pm

re: #154 Kragar

Did I miss all the bees?

[Embedded content]

Yes, honey.

158 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:16:03pm

LORD BASRAC APPROACHES.

159 wrenchwench  May 20, 2014 6:17:03pm

Later, lizards.

160 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:17:21pm

I actually Googled BASRAC, figuring it was probably some incredibly stupid acronym that started with Benghazi. But I got nothing.

Of course, I didn’t bother to look past the first page.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:17:46pm

re: #145 Pie-onist Overlord

MOAR HATCHLING BAIT
This is the lamest shit ever. Let’s mock it!

[Embedded content]

Poverty! You call that poverty!
Youtube Video

162 jaunte  May 20, 2014 6:17:47pm

Buffoon of Kentucky keep on shining,
Shine on the one that’s gone and left me blue…

163 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:17:55pm

re: #159 wrenchwench

[Embedded image]

Later, lizards.

ARE THOSE BEES?

164 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 6:17:57pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

BASRAC! AAAHHHH! BASRAC!

Sounds like the aliens in Mars Attack.

165 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 6:18:04pm

re: #152 Jack Burton

It’s not often we see this coming and can prepare for the whole entertaining spectacle that is about to unfold.

BEE AFRAID. BEE VERY AFRAID!

166 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:18:32pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

I actually Googled BASRAC, figuring it was probably some incredibly stupid acronym that started with Benghazi. But I got nothing.

Of course, I didn’t bother to look past the first page.

???

Eve Who - Pilot - Basrac
evewho.com
corp logo, character image. Character: Basrac [CEO]. Corporation: Centauri Republic. Sec. Status: 1.9. Links: Eve Kill * zKillboard * EveBoard * Eve-Search

167 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:18:35pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

ARE THOSE BEES?

Bees on a beecycle.

168 klys  May 20, 2014 6:18:36pm

re: #159 wrenchwench

[Embedded image]

Later, lizards.

Extra upding for resourcefulness and ability to tie into current thread.

169 jaunte  May 20, 2014 6:19:00pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

ARE THOSE BEES?

SCARABS!

170 Jack Burton  May 20, 2014 6:19:08pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

I actually Googled BASRAC, figuring it was probably some incredibly stupid acronym that started with Benghazi. But I got nothing.

Of course, I didn’t bother to look past the first page.

2nd page is mostly links to pages of Eve Online characters with that name.

171 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:19:11pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like the aliens in Mars Attack.

I googled BASRAC, seems to be a gaming character in EVE.

172 TedStriker  May 20, 2014 6:19:21pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

I say we play with it for now, like a cat plays with its kill.

If that newly-minted Lizard goes completely batshit crazy in the comments or the Pages, you always have the LGF “nuclear option”.

173 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:19:27pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

ARE THOSE BEES?

BASRAC BEES!

174 jaunte  May 20, 2014 6:19:42pm

Beeceecleta.

175 TedStriker  May 20, 2014 6:20:32pm

re: #106 jaunte

Beenghazi!

Ben-Gay-zhi!!!

176 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:20:51pm

re: #175 TedStriker

Ben-Gay-zhi!!!

Bee-curious?

177 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:21:52pm

re: #176 Sergey Romanov

Bee-curious?

LGBeeT.

178 Belafon  May 20, 2014 6:22:02pm

re: #176 Sergey Romanov

Bee-curious?

Bee-happy!

179 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:22:17pm

Circa Paleo—Swedish Cantiga

Youtube Video

180 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:22:18pm

To Bee Or Not To Bee

181 Kragar  May 20, 2014 6:22:18pm

NOT THE BEES!

Youtube Video

182 TedStriker  May 20, 2014 6:22:36pm

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Rode the last truck, too.

First truck, last truck…whatever!

/channeling Mel Brooks

183 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 6:22:45pm

Dudebro attack!

184 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:23:01pm

Boobees.

/sry

185 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:23:51pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dudebro attack!

[Embedded content]

Explanatory journalism consumes itself.

186 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:23:53pm

re: #182 TedStriker

First truck, last truck…whatever!

/channeling Mel Brooks

Mel B was on a late show last night—looked bad.

187 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 6:24:44pm

poor Mitch…

188 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:24:59pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Mel B was on a late show last night—looked bad.

But he probably looked good for a 200 year old!

189 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:25:08pm

Beeautiful Tele.

190 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:25:39pm

i can’t come up with any bee puns and this just drives me apiary

191 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 6:26:31pm

re: #190 dog philosopher

i can’t come up with any bee puns and this just drives me apiary

Just bee a bee philosopher for a while. Should be enough ;)

192 urbanmeemaw  May 20, 2014 6:26:48pm

re: #19 Skip Intro

It would be interesting to see percentages for McConnell/Bevin in No KY’s Kenton, Boone and Campbell Counties, where the majority of KY’s tea party supporters dwell. A Democratic friend who lives in Kenton County was going to register as a Republican so she could vote against Bevin in the primary.

193 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:27:15pm

If you don’t watch out I’ll put you on the bee list.

194 klys  May 20, 2014 6:27:36pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

If you don’t watch out I’ll put you on the bee list.

Wait, so does that make you queen bee?

195 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:28:32pm

re: #191 Sergey Romanov

Just bee a bee philosopher for a while. Should be enough ;)

never swat a fly

Never swat a fly
He may love another fly
He may sit with her and sigh
The way I do with you

Never harm a flea
He may have a favourite she
That he bounces on his knee
The way I do with you

Never stop a bee
If he is going anywhere
For you may be concluding
Some terrific love affair, be careful

Don’t step on an ant
In the middle of a pant
He may want to, but he can’t
The way I do with you

196 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:28:32pm
197 b.d.  May 20, 2014 6:28:47pm

DRONEZ!!

198 Kragar  May 20, 2014 6:29:51pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

If you don’t watch out I’ll put you on the bee list.

So bee good for goodness sake…

199 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:30:59pm

All day this is going on:

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 6:31:18pm

re: #192 urbanmeemaw

It would be interesting to see percentages for McConnell/Bevin in No KY’s Kenton, Boone and Campbell Counties, where the majority of KY’s tea party supporters dwell. A Democratic friend who lives in Kenton County was going to register as a Republican so she could vote against Bevin in the primary.

Here

201 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 6:31:19pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dudebro attack!

[Embedded content]

It’s an interesting approach to marketing….

“Nobody wants to be a shill for your brand,” former Buzzfeed chief creative officer Jeff Greenspan once told New York Magazine for a profile of the company’s founder, Jonah Peretti. “But they are happy to share information and content that helps them promote their own identity.”

202 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:32:11pm

re: #194 klys

Wait, so does that make you queen bee?

Nope—that would be Gilda Radner.

Image: snltwo0220_big.jpg

203 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 6:32:12pm

Marketing #FAIL *smh*

204 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:33:12pm

Tuesday Night Primary Results Can Only Be Good For Republicans

becuz poo benghazi radical student protest STFU im notta racist

205 b.d.  May 20, 2014 6:33:46pm

LESS THAN 48 HOURS TO GO BEFORE JULIAN LETS THE TRUTH FREE!

206 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:34:01pm
<iframe src=”//embed.gettyimages.com” width=”477” height=”407” scrolling=”no” frameborder=”0” style=”display:inline-block;”></iframe>
207 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 6:39:40pm

re: #167 Gus

Bees on a beecycle.

How do they operate the beerailer?

208 urbanmeemaw  May 20, 2014 6:40:14pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you!!! Just as I suspected. In Boone County (where I go to get my soul sucked out) McConnell barely beat Bevins. Kenton gave Mitch a little more breathing room, and Campbell hasn’t posted yet, but I suspect White World voters gave Mitch a run for his money. Suspicions confirmed.

209 TedStriker  May 20, 2014 6:44:08pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Mel B was on a late show last night—looked bad.

That sucks, but time waits for no man, not even Mel Brooks.

210 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 6:44:44pm

Dawn Breaks Over Freep:


To: concerned about politics

the Tea Party seems to be the best thing
the radical left has going for it.
ask Todd Aikin

86 posted on Tue 20 May 2014 07:07:31 PM CDT by RockyTx

211 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 6:49:31pm

re: #210 Decatur Deb

Dawn Breaks Over Freep:


To: concerned about politics

the Tea Party seems to be the best thing
the radical left has going for it.
ask Todd Aikin

86 posted on Tue 20 May 2014 07:07:31 PM CDT by RockyTx

they’ll never figure out that the tea party is well along in its historical destiny of destroying the republican party

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 6:49:55pm

jeez…I though minor league baseball was supposed to be fun.

213 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 6:51:13pm

re: #210 Decatur Deb

Dawn Breaks Over Freep:


To: concerned about politics

the Tea Party seems to be the best thing
the radical left has going for it.
ask Todd Aikin

86 posted on Tue 20 May 2014 07:07:31 PM CDT by RockyTx

Worst haiku ever.

214 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 6:52:07pm

re: #210 Decatur Deb

Dawn Breaks Over Freep:


To: concerned about politics

the Tea Party seems to be the best thing
the radical left has going for it.
ask Todd Aikin

86 posted on Tue 20 May 2014 07:07:31 PM CDT by RockyTx

Isn’t The Boss a TPer? Rocky better get an extra big donation in before he becomes Zotty.

215 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 6:52:10pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeez…I though minor league baseball was supposed to be fun.

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Wheeeeee.

216 Kragar  May 20, 2014 6:52:18pm

Part of me wants to get the new Wolfenstein, but the other part says give it a few days to work out the bugs

217 Gus  May 20, 2014 6:53:26pm

Can’t fix #206.

218 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 6:54:09pm

Wet Otter Puppies!!!!!

219 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 6:58:23pm

re: #216 Kragar

Part of me wants to get the new Wolfenstein, but the other part says give it a few days to work out the bugs

I watched the Total Biscuit review and he really liked it but I can’t seem to get excited about another shooter. Maybe I’ll hold out for Tropico but there’s so little in gaming that interests me these days.

220 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 6:59:12pm

I think I’m going to try to watch Vikings on Amazon streaming video.

Think I can figure it out?

221 Kragar  May 20, 2014 6:59:39pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

I watched the Total Biscuit review and he really liked it but I can’t seem to get excited about another shooter. Maybe I’ll hold out for Tropico but there’s so little in gaming that interests me these days.

The only game I’m really looking forward to this year …

Youtube Video

222 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:00:53pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

If you don’t watch out I’ll put you on the bee list.

There is a bee list?

223 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:02:59pm

Letter B
Youtube Video

224 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:04:01pm

More assholes.

225 dog philosopher  May 20, 2014 7:04:38pm

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

Letter B
[Embedded content]

Video

three stooges swingin the alphabet

226 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:05:12pm

re: #224 Gus

More assholes.

[Embedded content]

These people are not helping.

227 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:05:37pm
228 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:08:36pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

These people are not helping.

yup

229 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 7:10:58pm

Retweet this everywhere.

230 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 7:11:28pm

OT: I can’t stand Chris Hayes, but this is important and it pisses me off to no end. This Kansas public elementary school is closing because of GOP/Gov. Brownback’s budget cuts. WTF? These assholes have lost their minds.

Video

231 Kragar  May 20, 2014 7:15:07pm

re: #224 Gus

More assholes.

[Embedded content]

Those guys do look like experts when it comes to accidental discharges.

232 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 7:15:32pm

time for some shuteye.
laterz lizardz…

233 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:15:57pm

The one guy with the scarf around his neck —What’s up with that?

234 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 20, 2014 7:16:38pm

re: #189 Gus

Keeping a guitar with a Bigsby bridge in tune is theoretical at best.

235 b_sharp  May 20, 2014 7:17:23pm

re: #234 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Keeping a guitar with a Bigsby bridge in tune is theoretical at best.

Indeed. That’s why I don’t have one.

236 Kragar  May 20, 2014 7:17:33pm

re: #233 FemNaziBitch

The one guy with the scarf around his neck —What’s up with that?

I believe its called “dressing like a complete douchebag”.

237 bratwurst  May 20, 2014 7:18:51pm
238 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 7:20:13pm

Federal investigators issue subpoena to Cover Oregon, Oregon Health Authority

Among other things, the FBI seems to be interested in whether state officials misled their federal counterparts about progress on the exchange in order to get more federal funding. The FBI has asked for all communications between the state and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the so-called “gate reviews,” in which federal officials supposedly quizzed state officials about the status of the IT project.

The FBI is also seeking communications with Exeter Systems, another technology company that approached the state saying it had a cheap, off-the-shelf technology that would meet the state’s needs.

Documents obtained through Oregon’s public-records law have shown that the Legislature’s IT oversight analyst, Bob Cummings, felt the state misled federal officials about the status of the project. He related that Exeter felt the same, and that a Cover Oregon demonstration to the feds that was “little more than what” an Exeter executive - formerly with Oracle — “had built as a ‘demo’ for Oregon.”

239 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 7:20:42pm

re: #233 FemNaziBitch

The one guy with the scarf around his neck —What’s up with that?

The Keffiyeh is popular among a certain set of the tacticool fringe. Some for a political statement, a larger number because it’s Kewl. The same kind tend to have a ghillie suit but not the knowledge to use it effectively.

240 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 7:21:04pm

re: #236 Kragar

I believe its called “dressing like a complete douchebag”.

Yes, but if a bad guy with a scarf shows up, we can rest easy knowing there’s a good guy with a scarf to take him down.

241 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:21:22pm

Bees.

242 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 7:21:53pm

re: #233 FemNaziBitch

The one guy with the scarf around his neck —What’s up with that?

Sandbox Chic—used in SWA desert to ‘fit in’.

(It would cost $19 to match their license plate—good OPSEC)

243 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:25:52pm
244 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:26:21pm

re: #236 Kragar

I believe its called “dressing like a complete douchebag”.

Like he is trying to not have a muslim scarf, but is.

245 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 7:26:31pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

These people are not helping.

And the larger gun owner community is recognizing it. Too quietly though, I wrote a blogger today to get permission to Page more freely from his blog. he ran a poll on his blog 2300 votes, does open long gun carry hurt or help the cause… 84% says hurts. Now there is plenty to not like at that blog but still…

246 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:29:05pm

Am I supposed to be outraged that the US is pursuing a criminal case against Julian Assange?

247 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:29:58pm

I came from a volunteer meeting earlier this evening and literally was soaking, dripping wet by the time I got to my car. I could have walked 30 ft or 2 it wouldn’t have mattered.

248 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 20, 2014 7:30:13pm

re: #236 Kragar

His rifle is also very confused about what kind of weapon it wants to be. Mondo scope and a bipod on a carbine? Seems legit.

249 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:31:58pm

Sharia bees.

250 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:32:25pm
251 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:33:25pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

Am I supposed to be outraged that the US is pursuing a criminal case against Julian Assange?

No, just noting current events.

252 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 7:35:15pm

re: #248 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

His rifle is also very confused about what kind of weapon it wants to be. Mondo scope and a bipod on a carbine? Seems legit.

Gonna market a beer opener that fits a Picatinny rail.

253 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:35:24pm

re: #251 FemNaziBitch

That wasn’t directed at you! More at Boing Boing.

254 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:37:23pm

The Best Commencement Speeches, Ever NPR

255 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 7:37:49pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

These people are not helping.

As the Chipolte conversation concluded.

256 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:40:06pm
257 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:40:54pm

I’ll bet ResurrectTheRepublic . com shows up in the middle of the night.

258 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 7:41:15pm

re: #254 FemNaziBitch

The Best Commencement Speeches, Ever NPR

Saw it the other day. Too many current ones, too many pop culture ones (Kermit the Frog, Adam Savage - hey, I like Mythbusters but lets be real) to actually be anything even vaguely like a useful list.

This is without even going into the validity of the genre… O_o

259 jaunte  May 20, 2014 7:42:43pm

re: #256 Gus

Step right up, Ladies!

260 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:43:24pm

OK, I am enjoying this

Yes, this is Mia Farrow’s son

261 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:44:02pm

re: #259 jaunte

Step right up, Ladies!

oh yeah!

262 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 7:44:13pm

re: #239 William Barnett-Lewis

Offhand, I have always wanted a ghillie suit. I can imagine many uses.

263 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 7:44:16pm

re: #256 Gus

[Embedded content]

Never ever thought I’d see clowns scarier than circus clowns. Well now I have.

264 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 20, 2014 7:45:56pm

re: #262 Stanley Sea

Offhand, I have always wanted a ghillie suit. I can imagine many uses.

They’re not all that useful for wooing women. Stalking maybe.

265 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:47:17pm

Imagine if groups of blacks started forming militias, talking insurrection, and showing up with semi-AR rifles en masse and in public?

266 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:48:58pm
267 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 7:50:04pm

re: #262 Stanley Sea

Offhand, I have always wanted a ghillie suit. I can imagine many uses.

One civilian I know has gotten some really good photos of nesting birds from very close up.

268 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:50:14pm
269 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 7:50:37pm

re: #265 Gus

Imagine if groups of blacks started forming militias, talking insurrection, and showing up with semi-AR rifles en masse and in public?

Remember the Black-Panthers-at-some-voting-place outrageous outrage?

270 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 7:51:31pm

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Anyone thinking that a) they’re Christian and b) that God wants them to be president is in need of being born again… smh.

271 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 7:51:59pm

re: #269 Sergey Romanov

Remember the Black-Panthers-at-some-voting-place outrageous outrage?

Aren’t their numbers even smaller?

/////

272 The Ghost of a Flea  May 20, 2014 7:51:59pm

re: #265 Gus

Imagine if groups of blacks started forming militias, talking insurrection, and showing up with semi-AR rifles en masse and in public?

That’s different.

For reasons.

Good reasons.

273 teleskiguy  May 20, 2014 7:52:19pm

Hello fellow Lizards!

I snow-climbed a 14,000 ft. peak today with a friend. And I’m telling you the weather was the straight BEESnis!

274 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:52:56pm
275 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 7:53:52pm

re: #265 Gus

Imagine if groups of blacks started forming militias, talking insurrection, and showing up with semi-AR rifles en masse and in public?

They did. Governor Reagan happily signed all kinds of anti-gun laws shortly there after (though they carried mostly M-1 Carbines).

276 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:54:35pm
277 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:55:19pm
278 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 7:55:37pm
279 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:56:25pm
280 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 7:57:03pm

re: #267 William Barnett-Lewis

One civilian I know has gotten some really good photos of nesting birds from very close up.

Exactly. Add Halloween.

281 Gus  May 20, 2014 7:57:23pm

Notice the Confederate flag.

282 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:58:26pm
283 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 7:58:52pm
284 Kragar  May 20, 2014 8:01:04pm
285 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 8:01:14pm

re: #267 William Barnett-Lewis

One civilian I know has gotten some really good photos of nesting birds from very close up.

Does it come in kudzu?

286 teleskiguy  May 20, 2014 8:01:46pm

My response to these open-carry loons?

A brief dialogue from Donnie and Walter from “The Big Lebowski.”

Donnie: These men gonna hurt us, Walter?

Walter: No Donnie, these men are cowards.

287 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:01:56pm

Now we have to hear from Pat Sajak?

I’m going to drown myself in fiction, reality is just too, too, pathetic sometimes.

288 teleskiguy  May 20, 2014 8:03:33pm

re: #283 Charles Johnson

Barack Shabaaz/Obama.

Ooookay….

289 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 8:03:44pm

re: #269 Sergey Romanov

Remember the Black-Panthers-at-some-voting-place outrageous outrage?

Go back to the Reagan era as Californias Governor. When some African Americans decided to put on an open carry show the shit hit the fan fast.

google.com

290 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:04:47pm
291 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:06:16pm
292 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 8:07:09pm

re: #290 FemNaziBitch

Putin is behaving just like Hitler, says Prince Charles - Democratic Underground

No one understands democracy like an hereditary monarch.

293 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 8:08:24pm

re: #292 Decatur Deb

No one understands democracy like an hereditary monarch.

Eh, his family still has living members who had to deal with the original.

294 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 8:08:39pm

More from “Babay” (Aleksandr Mozhaev, Russian terrorist in Slovyansk, convicted for drug-dealing, hero of the pro-Russian side):

“Babay’s appeal to the USA”

Youtube Video

“America, I’m a Cossack, not Ukrainian. Cossack. Cossack is not FSB, not GRU, not any state structure. Cossack is a warrior. Christ’s warrior, God’s. That’s why God is with us and I don’t know who’s against us in that case. Obviously evil, so, we will be exterminating you. And I’ll ask of you - don’t ascribe this to America as a whole, kike-Masons, show yourselves. Because peaceful people don’t want to suffer because of you - those that want to live in peace and harmony.”

295 teleskiguy  May 20, 2014 8:09:14pm

OMG CHARLES BEES!

BEES! COVERING A HOMINID!

296 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 8:09:17pm

And with that, it’s off to sleep. Tomorrow is 8 or so more hours on the sandwich line.

297 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 8:10:24pm

re: #285 Decatur Deb

Does it come in kudzu?

You just have to stand still for 20 minutes to get a kudzu gillie suit.

RBS

298 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 8:10:43pm

re: #295 teleskiguy

AAAAHHHHH! AAHHHH!

299 Eventual Carrion  May 20, 2014 8:12:12pm

re: #287 FemNaziBitch

Now we have to hear from Pat Sajak?

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I’m going to drown myself in fiction, reality is just too, too, pathetic sometimes.

Fu_k y_u P_t

I’d like to buy a vowel

300 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:20:37pm

re: #293 William Barnett-Lewis

Eh, his family still has living members who had to deal with the original.

and some of them supported Hitler.

Prince Charles, IMHO, is a monarchist thru and thru.

301 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 8:20:49pm
302 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:21:20pm

nytol

303 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 8:24:03pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

Something about the Colonists?

304 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 8:24:31pm

Youtube Video

305 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 8:28:41pm

re: #71 Ryan King

BEES FROM THE PITS OF HELL

It’s been done.

306 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 8:31:39pm

Demon-controlled bees? It’s been done (badly).

Youtube Video

307 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 8:39:22pm

Since we’re back to bees…

BEEING JOHN MALKHIVEICH.

308 freetoken  May 20, 2014 8:39:36pm

I wonder if the bees have anything to do with the alleged closure of HAARP?

309 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 8:42:24pm

re: #308 freetoken

I wonder if the bees have anything to do with the alleged closure of HAARP?

Maybe HAARP was attracting all the DRONEZ

310 freetoken  May 20, 2014 8:43:37pm

I see that many articles covering today’s striking down of the PA law against gay marriage are including the fact that Judge Jones was the judge in the Dover Intelligent Design case.

E.g.,

Federal judge strikes down gay marriage ban in Pennsylvania

311 jaunte  May 20, 2014 8:45:23pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

I’ll bet resurrecttherepublic.com shows up in the middle of the night.

He’s being damned slow about it.

312 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 8:45:42pm

re: #279 Gus

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I’m a bad person. All I can think of is the fun I would have with a string of firecrackers.

313 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 8:45:47pm

Evolution, or how this

Youtube Video

becomes this

Youtube Video

314 Kid A  May 20, 2014 8:47:23pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Wondering if I should preemptively suspend our Arizona nutjob friend. Pretty sure I know where this is headed.

Let it bee.

315 Gus  May 20, 2014 8:48:04pm

Cripes. Trig trutherism resurfacing. Sarah Palin’s kid.

316 jaunte  May 20, 2014 8:53:24pm

re: #315 Gus

Why is this on anyone’s mind in 2014?

317 Gus  May 20, 2014 8:54:38pm

re: #316 jaunte

Why is this on anyone’s mind in 2014?

Joan Walsh Tweeted this.

318 Dark_Falcon  May 20, 2014 8:54:53pm

re: #301 Charles Johnson

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Well, the militias who carried out the Benghazi Incident have gotten beat on over the past couple days. Don’t know if this new Libyan National Army (LNA) is going to be able to get the job done, but I hope it can. What would best put the matter of the Benghazi Incident to rest would for the LNA be to capture some of those Islamist militia leaders, then for the CIA to put them to the question.

319 Dark_Falcon  May 20, 2014 8:58:36pm

re: #316 jaunte

Why is this on anyone’s mind in 2014?

Because a tiny minority on the far left suffer from Palin Derangement Syndrome. They cannot confine themselves to simply mocking her mangling of the English language or to calling her appropriate names such as Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods. Instead they have to see her as having been part of some sort of crime or cover-up.

320 Kid A  May 20, 2014 9:01:26pm
321 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:01:35pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

It would be good if she could just leave public life to enjoy her wealth and family.

322 Dark_Falcon  May 20, 2014 9:03:26pm

re: #321 jaunte

It would be good if she could just leave public life to enjoy her wealth and family.

Yeah, it would.

323 teleskiguy  May 20, 2014 9:05:31pm

I took this picture this afternoon. There’s still a lot of snow in the high mountains of Colorado, though it’s been very warm the last couple of days, so some of it has melted off, surely. Supposed to get cold again Wednesday night with maybe a little more snow in places like where I took this picture with an Apple GlowingRectangle.

instagram.com

324 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 9:08:57pm

re: #323 teleskiguy

I took this picture this afternoon. There’s still a lot of snow in the high mountains of Colorado, though it’s been very warm the last couple of days, so some of it has melted off, surely. Supposed to get cold again Wednesday night with maybe a little more snow in places like where I took this picture with an Apple GlowingRectangle.

instagram.com

Beautiful. Quite a hike up. Looks so worth it.

325 Lidane  May 20, 2014 9:16:34pm

OW. OW. OW.

My legs are dead weight. My feet hate me. I am exhausted. Still, it was a good night. Went to a local meetup of an industry jobs group I belong to on FB. The admins of the page organized a local recruitment event tonight getting the recruiters that tend to post in the group to get their companies to sponsor the event and everything.

Made some good contacts, got some business cards, and made my pitches for myself at several companies here in town. Now I just have to hope that the conversations go somewhere.

326 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:19:05pm
327 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:27:59pm

Bees!

Getty Image

flock in the sky of Rome

328 teleskiguy  May 20, 2014 9:48:16pm

re: #324 Rightwingconspirator

Beautiful. Quite a hike up. Looks so worth it.

Just under 4000 ft. vert of climbing with spontaneous treacherous posthole-ing on the approach and egress.

The gal friend I was with never snow-climbed a mountain before. She borrowed a bigger backpack and an ice ax from a friend of mine. Poor gal, she had to learn SELF-ARREST while travelling on snow the hard way this morning. I didn’t see it, I was about 40 yards ahead finding a route.

She scraped up her hand pretty good, and endured some minor abrasions on her thighs. We caught up minutes later, after she yelled my name 4 times (I was down-climbing to investigate, because she was out of sight) and she said “I learned VERY QUICK how this works!” “This” referring to snow-climbing a mountain with an ice ax.

It was a glorious day. What the hell. I’ll share a picture that makes a nice circle. Here’s my lady friend on her first glissade (after the summit and well after the bloodying of her hand in her crash course in self arrest on snow).

Her first glissade. She called it a “Butt-Slide” which sounds acutely MURKAN!

329 Gus  May 20, 2014 10:05:08pm
330 Gus  May 20, 2014 10:07:43pm

331 Gus  May 20, 2014 10:50:36pm
332 sagehen  May 20, 2014 10:53:55pm

re: #300 FemNaziBitch

and some of them supported Hitler.

Prince Charles, IMHO, is a monarchist thru and thru.

The way Prince Charles got to be in line… is because the one who supported Hitler was knocked out of the running by the rest of the family. (not the officially announced reason he got tossed, but if not for that they’d have put up with the rest of his shit).

333 sagehen  May 20, 2014 10:54:43pm

re: #310 freetoken

I see that many articles covering today’s striking down of the PA law against gay marriage are including the fact that Judge Jones was the judge in the Dover Intelligent Design case.

E.g.,

Federal judge strikes down gay marriage ban in Pennsylvania

And that Rick Santorum spoke enthusiastically in favor of his confirmation.

334 Gus  May 20, 2014 10:54:58pm
335 Lidane  May 20, 2014 11:08:02pm

Wheee!

336 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 11:31:08pm

re: #333 sagehen

And that Rick Santorum spoke enthusiastically in favor of his confirmation.

Jones was a Republican nominee. That alone drives the wingnuts crazy.

337 freetoken  May 21, 2014 12:00:32am

To me, the late 40’s and early 50’s was a difficult time in American pop music. Serious music and movie music were going strong, but the radio “hits” kind of leave me cold.

Anyway, in 1949 Tommy Dorsey recorded one of the hot raging tunes (and dances) of that year, with Charlie Shavers:

MP3 Audio

338 Gus  May 21, 2014 12:03:19am
339 Kragar  May 21, 2014 12:32:12am

re: #337 freetoken

To me, the late 40’s and early 50’s was a difficult time in American pop music. Serious music and movie music were going strong, but the radio “hits” kind of leave me cold.

Anyway, in 1949 Tommy Dorsey recorded one of the hot raging tunes (and dances) of that year, with Charlie Shavers:

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1947 Roy Brown - Good Rockin’ Tonight

Youtube Video

340 Kragar  May 21, 2014 12:33:31am

And then of course we have Roy Brown’s “Butcher Pete”

Youtube Video

341 freetoken  May 21, 2014 12:34:00am

There is no end of “reality TV” in America, and one of the most popular are food shows, or rather food-porn shows, IMO.

Anyway, Food Network recently threw up several new shows, most of which come off to me as being very forced in their structure. And most derivative, even of themselves, always trying to come up with a better Chopped.

One of the most uncomfortable to watch is “Kitchen Casino”, one episode only that I’ve viewed, and that was enough.

At the end the winner gets to gamble his winnings by spinning a wheel, the downside being he could lose all his winning award. But, out of 16 stations on the wheel only one of them is “bust”. The other 15 stations are all good (returning a little to much more money) or neutral. Who wouldn’t take the chance to spin the wheel? You’ve only got a 6% chance of losing.

I’m trying to figure out why the producers thought adding a casino gimmick would make a cooking competition more interesting, when there aren’t real casino games.

On top of everything else the host for Kitchen Casino looks like stepped out of a 1950’s cigarette advertisement.

Charles could add a casino gimmick to LGF - put images of roulette wheels on the front, have all our avatars be playing cards. Even make a little Java app to simulate a slot machine to mesmerize us while we’re reading posts.

But it just wouldn’t make sense.

342 freetoken  May 21, 2014 12:38:13am

re: #339 Kragar

Prescient though it was, it wasn’t that successful of a release:

en.wikipedia.org

343 freetoken  May 21, 2014 12:41:19am

And that was the problem back then - so much of the really good popular music was “black” and categorized as such. Nat Cole was able to cross over into white society, but so many good black musicians hit a glass ceiling.

In those days, Bing Crosby could do an uninspired job with a dull song and get it played on every radio station and sold everywhere.

344 Lidane  May 21, 2014 12:48:58am

So I’m amusing myself at 2am by going through the live primary thread at Free Republic. SO many examples of idiocy. I feel almost spoiled for choice.

My personal favorite was this comment about the GOP Senate primaries:

In the Texas primary, Cornyn got 59.43%. McConnell’s currently at 59.4%

40% of the republican electorate want these leaders gone.

Yeah, genius. But almost 60% of the Republican electorate want those guys in power. That’s why they keep winning.

Math, how does it work?

345 sagehen  May 21, 2014 12:57:27am

re: #341 freetoken

There is no end of “reality TV” in America, and one of the most popular are food shows, or rather food-porn shows, IMO.

I just watched the premiere of the most ridiculous reality show, so bad it’s good. Like watching a train wreck.

“I Want To Marry Harry.”

A bunch of American girls are in England, for something similar to the bachelor, with a lot of vague-but-misleading info about the guy in question. They’re at a Stately Home, everything’s very formal, the butler just refers to him as “Sir” (“you’ll be dining with Sir in the drawing room in 30 minutes”, “sir has provided these dresses for the masquerade ball,” etc) and the guy (who deflects when asked his name or what he does for a living or just about any other identifying info)… is a Prince Harry lookalike.

The girls are convincing themselves that IT”S REALLY HIM!! If they win the show they’ll be a PRINCESS!! I don’t know how they could possibly believe 4th in line to the throne would seek a spouse this way, but… like I said, trainwreck.

(I’m hoping the winner ends up being the one who realizes that hey, celebrity impersonater is a valid career, that somebody who’s going to be popular his whole life the impersonator can earn a decent living at it for decades. And he does seem like a nice guy, he’s just as goodlooking as the guy he’s lookalike for, his accent is adorbs…)

His reaction to the girls so far is hysterical. “American girls are very loud, aren’t they? And so forward.” With a facial expression and tone of voice that says, “OMG what a bunch of pushy gold-digging sluts!!”

346 Lidane  May 21, 2014 1:13:42am

re: #345 sagehen

That’s real? I saw the commercial and swore up and down it was a parody of reality shows. It would have to take a special level of stupid to think that a British prince born and raised in massive wealth, privilege, and protocol would go on a reality show to find a wife.

I hope that everyone involved with that is an actor knowingly sending up reality TV. If they think it’s real, I pity everyone involved for humiliating themselves that way.

347 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 3:23:17am

GG appears before what looks like an all white audience in Amsterdam; he doesn’t “speak” until over 30 min into the tape. GG was sponsored by the Dutch “John Adams Institute” (“American Culture in the Netherlands”). Ironically, John Adams was the president who signed the Alien and Sedition Acts into law. john-adams.nl

Is Greenwald being over-hyped? Very few hits on the various Youtube offerings over there regarding him or what he has to say about Snowjob. I don’t think he has the influence he thinks he has, so why is the US press all over him? Because they’re becoming moribund and think GG’s criminal behavior and money-making is exciting or something?

Youtube Video

348 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 3:46:01am

re: #344 Lidane

So I’m amusing myself at 2am by going through the live primary thread at Free Republic. SO many examples of idiocy. I feel almost spoiled for choice.

My personal favorite was this comment about the GOP Senate primaries:

Yeah, genius. But almost 60% of the Republican electorate want those guys in power. That’s why they keep winning.

Math, how does it work?

Various Tea Party types took an absolute drubbing in yesterday’s primaries, which is a good thing. Maybe, just maybe…..that whole Tea Party movement is starting to run out of gas.

Well, with any luck, it is. They’ll be with us for awhile longer, to be sure, but it seems to me it’s largely made up of older people (60+) and as time passes and nature takes its course (i.e., death) their power will wane not just as a political force but as a social force as well.

There will always be atavists who yearn for a return to a mythical golden age, but hopefully, their numbers will diminish with time.

349 wheat-dogghazi  May 21, 2014 3:52:43am

re: #332 sagehen

The way Prince Charles got to be in line… is because the one who supported Hitler was knocked out of the running by the rest of the family. (not the officially announced reason he got tossed, but if not for that they’d have put up with the rest of his shit).

Edward was a liability, and, as self-absorbed as he was, probably would have been a terrible king. I can’t imagine him staying in London after the bombings.

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 4:02:37am

re: #317 Gus

Joan Walsh Tweeted this.

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Palin’s rock star appeal has faded drastically. The only time she’s in the news anymore is when she opens her mouth to spew nonsense. No one is paying attention to her anymore.
So Palin herself is trotting out the Trig truther stuff to prove that she’s still relevant. or something.

351 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 4:05:42am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Palin’s rock star appeal has faded drastically. The only time she’s in the news anymore is when she opens her mouth to spew nonsense. No one is paying attention to her anymore.
So Palin herself is trotting out the Trig truther stuff to prove that she’s still relevant. or something.

Yep…..Palin has become yesterday’s news - granted, she still tries to prove she’s a kingmaker in the GOP, but based on the results from various GOP primaries yesterday, her status as kingmaker is dubious at best.

Within a decade, she will be entirely forgotten, aside from her rabid base - she will become little more than a footnote in the history books.

352 sagehen  May 21, 2014 4:13:08am

Watching the coverage of last night’s KY victory rallies… does Mitch McConnell’s wife look like she’s had a ton of work done? I’m sure she looked considerably older ten years ago.

353 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 4:22:15am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

Yep…..Palin has become yesterday’s news - granted, she still tries to prove she’s a kingmaker in the GOP, but based on the results from various GOP primaries yesterday, her status as kingmaker is dubious at best.

Within a decade, she will be entirely forgotten, aside from her rabid base - she will become little more than a footnote in the history books.

And she’ll be saying, “At least I made the history books.”

It’s always been about her, not the politics or anyone or anything else. She’s a shining example of the Age of Narcissism.

354 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 4:40:12am

HURR HURR!!!! POORS ON TEH WELFARES IS MAKING MOAR MONEY THEN YOU & ME!!!!!
I don’t know where they are getting these numbers, probably just making shit up on the spot.

355 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 4:42:17am

re: #353 Justanotherhuman

And she’ll be saying, “At least I made the history books.”

It’s always been about her, not the politics or anyone or anything else. She’s a shining example of the Age of Narcissism.

That’s unfortunately true.

We shall have to wait to see what happens this November in the mid-terms, but I’m getting the feeling that it’s not going to be so good for the GOP, much less the Tea Party movement.

I’m still thinking the Democrats will retain the Senate, and the House will still be in GOP hands, though perhaps with a few less seats on the GOP side - the margin will be closer. Who ends up as Speaker when the next Congress begins I can’t guess.

There is one thing that could throw my calculation off, and that is comprehensive immigration reform, which is loathed by the GOP’s base. If the GOP passes that later this year, that could effect the November mid-terms as the GOP base, and especially the Tea Partyers, will be so furious that they’ll sit out the election out of sheer spite. These really are the types who’ll cut off their nose to spite their face; and should that happen, the Republicans may well be in big trouble come November.

Will the GOP leadership push forward for CIR? I don’t know, but they very well could - politics is a strange business, after all.

356 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 21, 2014 4:46:00am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Palin’s rock star appeal has faded drastically. The only time she’s in the news anymore is when she opens her mouth to spew nonsense. No one is paying attention to her anymore.
So Palin herself is trotting out the Trig truther stuff to prove that she’s still relevant. or something.

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

Yep…..Palin has become yesterday’s news - granted, she still tries to prove she’s a kingmaker in the GOP, but based on the results from various GOP primaries yesterday, her status as kingmaker is dubious at best.

The most frustrating part of this is that the so-called “Lamestream Media” gives her any oxygen at all. She holds no office, hasn’t helped push anyone into office, makes absolutely no sense in anything she says, and isn’t running for anything.

For all intents and purposes, this should be the scene in a newsroom when Palin’s name comes up:

Reporter: Hey, boss, got a call from Sarah Palin’s publicist.

Editor: Who?

Reporter: Sarah Palin, VP candidate in 2008.

Editor: Right. That was six years ago.

Reporter: Yeah. Anyway, she’s making a statement about Benghazi on her Facebook page.

Editor: That’s nice.

Reporter: Wants to know if we want to interview her. Want me to run the story down?

Editor: Nah, who cares if some loser posts something on Facebook. Tell her to fuck off until she does something significant in politics. I don’t have time for this junior high bullshit. Not in so many words, of course.

357 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 4:49:07am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

“These really are the types who’ll cut off their nose to spite their face…”

A hallmark of narcissism, BTW; we see it on both the right and left from people who are only concerned about their own opinions, and which has surpassed the petty BS we used to see, and spawned those like Greenwald, Snowden, etc.

358 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 4:50:55am

re: #356 Rev_Arthur_Belling

The most frustrating part of this is that the so-called “Lamestream Media” gives her any oxygen at all. She holds no office, hasn’t helped push anyone into office, makes absolutely no sense in anything she says, and isn’t running for anything.

For all intents and purposes, this should be the scene in a newsroom when Palin’s name comes up:

Reporter: Hey, boss, got a call from Sarah Palin’s publicist.

Editor: Who?

Reporter: Sarah Palin, VP candidate in 2008.

Editor: Right. That was six years ago.

Reporter: Yeah. Anyway, she’s making a statement about Benghazi on her Facebook page.

Editor: That’s nice.

Reporter: Wants to know if we want to interview her. Want me to run the story down?

Editor: Nah, who cares if some loser posts something on Facebook. Tell her to fuck off until she does something significant in politics. I don’t have time for this junior high bullshit. Not in so many words, of course.

That little bit of dialogue instantly reminded me of the final scene in the film

Watchmen

, lol.

Youtube Video

359 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 4:51:15am

Hatchling alert in the pages. I know this guy from other forums.

360 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 5:00:42am

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

Hatchling alert in the pages. I know this guy from other forums.

Ooohh……a troll for the grill, perhaps?

361 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 5:02:57am

re: #360 Dr Lizardo

Ooohh……a troll for the grill, perhaps,

If it is the same guy I am thinking of, he has a problem with Muslims and also Orthodox Juice. Got fired from a right-wing Jewish newspaper for being too extremist.

362 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 21, 2014 5:08:41am

I am really disheartened by the way most of these new “explanatory/data journalism” sites seem to be developing. vox.com and 538 especially. I never really figured Greenwald’s site to be anything other than a dudebro gathering place, but I thought Klein and Silver might do a better job turning their personal brand into a worthwhile product.

Instead, Silver’s site has been bitten by some huge data interpretation mistakes (like this one about kidnappings, and the climate change debacle a few weeks ago), and has a whole lot of fancy charts that are the equivalent of cotton candy.

And Klein’s site, when it isn’t engaging in trolling for clicks (bicyclists shouldn’t be required to wear helmets), comes up with headlines like “Everything you need to know about _x_” (See for example Everything you need to know about Nigeria’s kidnapped girls, which is a lot like the headline of a Gawker article published two weeks earlier: Here Is What You Need To Know About the Kidnapped Girls of Nigeria). There is no way a single explanatory article can tell me everything I need to know about _x_ story. Hyperbole in the service of journalism is no virtue.

Perhaps they will grow out of these start-up pains, but I am pessimistic. I think this points to the fact that just because someone has a sharp mind and a vision doesn’t mean that they have the necessary tool kit to implement that vision in a way that does it justice.

It seems they’re all chasing the Buzzfeed model in a slightly less listicle-tastic manner, which is a shame.

Edit: minor changes for clarification.

363 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 5:09:15am

re: #361 Pie-onist Overlord

If it is the same guy I am thinking of, he has a problem with Muslims and also Orthodox Juice. Got fired from a right-wing Jewish newspaper for being too extremist.

Wow….I read the article. The fellow sounds like quite a jerk.

When you get sacked by a right-wing paper for being too extremist…..that’s a warning sign.

364 BongCrodny  May 21, 2014 5:13:52am

re: #354 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! POORS ON TEH WELFARES IS MAKING MOAR MONEY THEN YOU & ME!!!!!
I don’t know where they are getting these numbers, probably just making shit up on the spot.

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We aims to please.

Courtesy of the Washington Post:

Washington Post: A misleading chart on welfare spending

It’s from Senator Colonel Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, so it’s no surprise that “misleading” is a part of the headline.

365 William Barnett-Lewis  May 21, 2014 5:16:58am

re: #354 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! POORS ON TEH WELFARES IS MAKING MOAR MONEY THEN YOU & ME!!!!!
I don’t know where they are getting these numbers, probably just making shit up on the spot.

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Yeah, right. If it’s so much why aren’t they rushing to sign up? Oh yeah, because it’s not. My $7.40 an hour is barely enough to cover me not a family and it’s still more than I’d get out of any punative welfare program.

I do get SNAP & medical insurance because I don’t make enough. When I add the School Bus part time job I’m angling for, I’ll probably end up having to pay premiums in the $100 a month range for the insurance & having the SNAP cut in half. Such a reward for my labor…

366 William Barnett-Lewis  May 21, 2014 5:18:18am

Off for another day of feeding the fast food market of Hayward. 8 - 5 today. My feet already dread it :)

367 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 5:26:07am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

Wow….I read the article. The fellow sounds like quite a jerk.

When you get sacked by a right-wing paper for being too extremist…..that’s a warning sign.

You know rosiee, who got banned. This guy is like rosiee on steroids, meth, and PCP.

368 A Mom Anon  May 21, 2014 5:28:28am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

I at least hope you work with some good people. Invest in some good shoes with arch supports if you can. Or just the arch supports.

I am looking for work too. At my age after being a full time Mom for 20 yrs, let’s just say it’s not going well. I have a phone interview this morning with one of those companies that does in-store demos (“would you like to try our granola bars today? And here’s a 50 cent coupon…”), we shall see. At least it would be something while I look for something else I guess. It’s kind of depressing.

I really wish parenting skills counted for service jobs, because they do require some of the same skills. It’s silly the hoops you have to jump through just to get a part time entry level retail job now.

369 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 5:31:50am

re: #364 BongCrodny

We aims to please.

Courtesy of the Washington Post:

Washington Post: A misleading chart on welfare spending

It’s from Senator Colonel Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, so it’s no surprise that “misleading” is a part of the headline.

Please. I must remind you, that is my senator, Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third. We don’t have much, but we are unimaginative.

370 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 21, 2014 5:33:30am

re: #368 A Mom Anon

I at least hope you work with some good people. Invest in some good shoes with arch supports if you can. Or just the arch supports.

I am looking for work too. At my age after being a full time Mom for 20 yrs, let’s just say it’s not going well. I have a phone interview this morning with one of those companies that does in-store demos (“would you like to try our granola bars today? And here’s a 50 cent coupon…”), we shall see. At least it would be something while I look for something else I guess. It’s kind of depressing.

I really wish parenting skills counted for service jobs, because they do require some of the same skills. It’s silly the hoops you have to jump through just to get a part time entry level retail job now.

I would encourage anyone working in any position that requires a significant amount of standing to invest in arch supports early and often. I stand on my feet in a lecture hall for a couple of hours a day, along with miscellaneous walking to and fro, and having comfortable shoes that have extra support has saved my feet and my back.

And best to you JAH for finding a job. My former grandmother-in-law used to work at a laundromat/dry-cleaner. Those seem to be mostly locally owned (she worked the counter, taking money and providing change, picking up loose dryer sheets, etc.). Might be worth exploring.

371 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 5:33:54am

re: #368 A Mom Anon

I at least hope you work with some good people. Invest in some good shoes with arch supports if you can. Or just the arch supports.

I am looking for work too. At my age after being a full time Mom for 20 yrs, let’s just say it’s not going well. I have a phone interview this morning with one of those companies that does in-store demos (“would you like to try our granola bars today? And here’s a 50 cent coupon…”), we shall see. At least it would be something while I look for something else I guess. It’s kind of depressing.

I really wish parenting skills counted for service jobs, because they do require some of the same skills. It’s silly the hoops you have to jump through just to get a part time entry level retail job now.

There is a desperate need for child care—what does it take to get certified in your area?

372 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 5:35:20am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

Off for another day of feeding the fast food market of Hayward. 8 - 5 today. My feet already dread it :)

Get a pair of made for the purpose, comfortable, skid resistant short boots. They (skid resistant) were required at BK for my grandson (although the let him slide for a while). He still wears them even as he’s not there and is ordering another pair. And he has short, wide feet that are hard to fit. These are the ones he ordered—they hold up very well. shoesforcrews.com

373 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 5:39:23am

re: #366 William Barnett-Lewis

Off for another day of feeding the fast food market of Hayward. 8 - 5 today. My feet already dread it :)

That is why everytime some wingnut posts this hateful meme I am filled with unspeakable rage:
STANDING ON YOUR FEET FOR HOURS ON END IS HARD WORK YOU DIPSHITS!!

374 Mattand  May 21, 2014 5:39:49am

Apparently, not only do Republicans not want their parents to vote, they’re cool with their kids going hungry as well.

My God, WTF is wrong with this party?

375 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 5:40:38am

No words.

Authorities: 70 charged in NYC area in child porn case, including rabbi and Boy Scout leader - @AP
End of alert

376 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 5:41:26am

Mayor of Mikolayiv Receives Dog’s Head with Grenade Stuffed Inside it in Parcel

Ukrainian news site Socialna Kraina reports that Yuri Granaturov, the acting mayor of Mikolayiv, received a parcel from an unknown sender today which contained the severed head of a dog, within which was a grenade. The Mikolayiv police department said that tests showed the grenade to be a fake.

Socialna Kraina provides this statement from the police (translated by The Interpreter):

“The police received a message from the attendant at the city council, saying that a parcel addressed to the acting mayor had arrived, from which came an unpleasant smell. An investigative team and an expert from the Interior Ministry’s regional forensics centre set out to establish all the circumstances at the scene. On opening the parcel, police officers discovered the remains of an animal’s head.”

377 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 5:42:33am

re: #374 Mattand

Apparently, not only do Republicans not want their parents to vote, they’re cool with their kids going hungry as well.

My God, WTF is wrong with this party?

They no longer feel the need to pretend.

378 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 5:42:51am

re: #362 Rev_Arthur_Belling

The people who have been gaga over vox confuse me. It’s just another media site, and as you say, it’s on the fluffy side, and yet credulous people are treating it as though it’s something new.

I really don’t get how people get continually hoodwinked by the media’s endless rebranding. Factchecking, explanatory journalism, yadda yadda: it’s all stuff that all journalism should be doing, and very few of the places claiming they’re doing any of it do it in any sort of consistent way.

It seems like its an endless appeal to the knee-jerk contrarians.

379 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 5:44:21am

sigh…

380 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 5:45:30am

re: #374 Mattand

Apparently, not only do Republicans not want their parents to vote, they’re cool with their kids going hungry as well.

My God, WTF is wrong with this party?

The far-right wing of the GOP is becoming more openly white nationalist. It’s only a matter of time before the mask drops completely. Then the GOP leadership is going to have to decide what in the world they’re going to do about it.

381 A Mom Anon  May 21, 2014 5:48:34am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

A degree in Child Development. The church down the street has a day care and they want at least an Associates degree to work in their PreK and infants program. For 9 dollars an hour to start.

I could babysit here I guess, but I worry that people won’t like the fact I have a big dog. She’s as sweet as can be, but if I were looking for a sitter I’d worry too. Maybe doggie day care….I might put up a flier at the dog park and see what happens.

382 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 5:48:55am
383 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 5:49:16am

re: #380 Dr Lizardo

The far-right wing of the GOP is becoming more openly white nationalist. It’s only a matter of time before the mask drops completely. Then the GOP leadership is going to have to decide what in the world they’re going to do about it.

Beyond that it’s being incredibly short-sighted and ignorant about the real impacts of their preferred policies.

384 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 5:55:58am

Pay-to-potty: Teacher’s bathroom policy causes accidents, outrages parents

A Vancouver, Washington school district has removed a teacher while the school investigates claims that students wet their pants due to that teacher’s bathroom policy.

Third grade students at Mill Plain Elementary earn play money that they can exchange for treats, KIRO-TV reported. The money can be used to buy things like popcorn or small toys, but it is also used as a bathroom pass.

In two cases last week, children chose to spend money on treats instead of bathroom breaks, and wet themselves because they didn’t have enough money for a trip to the restroom, according to their parents.

…According to a follow-up katu.com report, trips to the bathroom under the policy cost $50 in fake money.

“What kid is going to spend money to go to the bathroom?” Merchon said. “No child should have to pay to use the restroom. Are you kidding me? That’s absolutely insane.”

385 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 21, 2014 5:56:29am

re: #378 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I really don’t get how people get continually hoodwinked by the media’s endless rebranding. Factchecking, explanatory journalism, yadda yadda: it’s all stuff that all journalism should be doing, and very few of the places claiming they’re doing any of it do it in any sort of consistent way.

It seems like its an endless appeal to the knee-jerk contrarians.

I can explain at least why these sites get a lot of coverage in the media. Traditional news platforms have been in a revenue/subscriber death spiral for a while. The web, and now mobile, have accelerated that spiral. Journalists and media managers have been frantically trying to figure out how to reverse, or at least halt, that decline.

So when some of these Internet “rock star journalists” strike out on their own with a new buzzword, all the navel-gazers rush to see if they can discern some lessons they can take back and apply in their own corners of the journalism world.

As you said, ultimately, these sites are nothing earth-shattering, or even that groundbreaking. But it’s the shiny new toy that sparkles. In another year or two, they’ll be mostly forgotten, I imagine.

I was genuinely curious to see if Klein or Silver could bring something interesting, a bit different, to the table, based upon their past track records. Needless to say, it hasn’t gone that way.

386 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 5:56:54am
387 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 6:06:56am
388 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 21, 2014 6:10:30am

re: #386 Pie-onist Overlord

I saw yesterday where Omidyar’s First Look had given EFF a grant.

389 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 6:11:37am

re: #388 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I saw yesterday where Omidyar’s First Look had given EFF a grant.

TEH WORLD’S MOAST BESTEST JOURNALIST EVER EVERTM sits on the board of directors.

390 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 6:11:37am

More on that child pornography case.

Rabbi, Little League Coach, Law Officers Among 70 Arrested in Online Child Porn Ring

nbcnewyork.com

“A rabbi, a little league coach, law enforcement and security officers and the mother of an infant are among 70 people arrested for allegedly sharing child pornography images online in what authorities are calling one of the largest local roundups of people who anonymously trade such images on the Internet, officials say.

(snip)

“Undercover Department of Homeland Security investigators along with NYPD detectives identified dozens of the suspects in about a month by setting up a website soliciting the sharing of illicit images.”

“We refer to each of these images as a crime scene photo because that’s exactly what they are,” said John Ryan, the organization’s chief executive officer.” More

391 Ian G.  May 21, 2014 6:13:33am

re: #373 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I worked a lot harder in my various minimum wage (or just above) jobs I had in high school or during college breaks or (yes) during the depths of the recession in 2010 than I have in any of the well-paid, white collar jobs I’ve held.

392 Ian G.  May 21, 2014 6:15:11am

re: #276 Gus

Honestly, maybe mockery is the best solution to gun fetishization culture. These guys are desperate to be taken seriously and respected. Just pointing and laughing would probably do so much more to defeat them than any futile attempt to get sensible regulations past the NRA.

393 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 6:17:27am

re: #391 Ian G.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I worked a lot harder in my various minimum wage (or just above) jobs I had in high school or during college breaks or (yes) during the depths of the recession in 2010 than I have in any of the well-paid, white collar jobs I’ve held.

Just because these jrrbs do not require an advanced degree does not mean they are blowoff or do not require hard physical labor.

Wingnuts just have to have somebody to look down on and feel superior to.

394 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 6:18:09am

Briton detained in Ukraine

bbc.com

“A British national has been detained in Ukraine, the Foreign Office has confirmed.

“Graham Phillips is a journalist working for Russian TV station Russia Today.

“It is understood he was detained in Mariupol, eastern Ukraine, on Tuesday and was taken to Kiev overnight by the Ukrainian National Guard.”

(Please pardon me for smirking.)

395 darthstar  May 21, 2014 6:21:41am

Though to be fair, “Bring ‘em on” wasn’t about Putin, it was just about Iraqis killing Americans.

396 darthstar  May 21, 2014 6:22:09am

Mornin’ everyone.

397 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 6:26:31am

Pie-onist Overlord posted:

That is why everytime some wingnut posts this hateful meme I am filled with unspeakable rage:

The greatest trick the 1% ever pulled was convincing everyone they didn’t exist.

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 6:27:53am
399 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:28:08am

So wasn’t here last night. Who won the important primaries?

400 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:29:13am

re: #397 Bulworth

Pie-onist Overlord posted:

The greatest trick the 1% ever pulled was convincing everyone they didn’t exist.

No, the greatest trick they’ve done is convincing the 99% to turn on each other.

401 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 6:29:35am

Happy Warrior posted:

So wasn’t here last night. Who won the important primaries?

All the TeaParty American patriots won their primaries and all the Democrat party traitors lost losers!1!11

402 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 6:31:54am
403 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 6:32:25am

Pie-onist Overlord:

Just because these jrrbs do not require an advanced degree does not mean they are blowoff or do not require hard physical labor.

So with the speed of lightening, the RWNJ have gone from demanding that everyone but them get jobs and bemoaning how Obamacare is destroying the Virtue of Work to ridiculing people working at the lowest wages.

Good to know, RWNJ, thanks.

404 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 6:33:26am

Tweeting at terrorists: US’s social media battle with online jihad

US State Department has launched an experimental unit to fight al-Qaeda ideologists on Twitter across the web. But can it actually stop terrorism?

405 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 6:33:52am

Happy Warrior posted:

No, the greatest trick they’ve done is convincing the 99% to turn on each other.

Yeah, that too.

406 b.d.  May 21, 2014 6:34:58am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pierre’s company gets cyber attacked right after Anonymous vowed to start haranguing his employee?

Oh well, information wants to be free. Shame there isn’t some sort of government agency that could try and figure out who did this.

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407 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:35:28am

The problem with RWNJ policies is they’re about keeping the very wealthy wealthy at the expense of everyone else. Want to pay for your education? Want a higher paying job? Want a livable environment for you and your family? Well tough luck because some wealthy dickbag supporter of the GOP needs a tax cut and tax cuts should take precedence over everything else.

408 b.d.  May 21, 2014 6:36:30am

DAFUQ?

REUTERS - EBay Inc (EBAY.O) issued a notice on its websites asking users to change their passwords, but took down the message a short time later without explanation.

in.reuters.com

409 darthstar  May 21, 2014 6:36:45am

Enthusiasm gap.

410 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 6:36:49am

Karma: 0

tzvibg

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Welcome hatchling.

411 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:37:16am

re: #405 Bulworth

Happy Warrior posted:

Yeah, that too.

Really, they’ve gotten people to think that “greedy unions” are the problem in a time of history where union power is weaker than ever and bat nary an eye while executives give themselves seven figure bonuses. They’ve been convinced that the amount of wealth you have is directly correlated to how hard you work and that’s just not true.

412 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 6:38:54am

re: #409 darthstar

Enthusiasm gap.

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Actually, it wasn’t an uncontested primary, there were three other people running on that ballot, but Alison blew them all away.

413 A Mom Anon  May 21, 2014 6:40:04am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

It really just boils down to this:

Unless you are rich, there is literally NOTHING you can do not to be hated and looked down on. And if you do try like hell to move forward somehow, then by god it should be as totally difficult and full of obstacles as possible. With crushing debt and any other thing they can think of, just for sport. Follow their rules, work hard and still aren’t able to make it? Well then fuck you for not catching a break or being born wealthy.

Which is really kind of, well, anti The American Dream, isn’t it?

414 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 6:40:36am

Go Alison!

415 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 6:41:44am
416 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 6:42:20am

re: #413 A Mom Anon

It really just boils down to this:

Unless you are rich, there is literally NOTHING you can do not to be hated and looked down on. And if you do try like hell to move forward somehow, then by god it should be as totally difficult and full of obstacles as possible. With crushing debt and any other thing they can think of, just for sport. Follow their rules, work hard and still aren’t able to make it? Well then fuck you for not catching a break or being born wealthy.

Which is really kind of, well, anti The American Dream, isn’t it?

HURR HURR!!!!!

417 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:43:19am

re: #416 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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Spoken by a man who couldn’t last a week in a fast food job.

418 darthstar  May 21, 2014 6:45:01am
419 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:45:09am

re: #413 A Mom Anon

It really just boils down to this:

Unless you are rich, there is literally NOTHING you can do not to be hated and looked down on. And if you do try like hell to move forward somehow, then by god it should be as totally difficult and full of obstacles as possible. With crushing debt and any other thing they can think of, just for sport. Follow their rules, work hard and still aren’t able to make it? Well then fuck you for not catching a break or being born wealthy.

Which is really kind of, well, anti The American Dream, isn’t it?

Seriously. It just angers me that wingnuts think that this is about being anti-wealthy. To me, it’s about opposing a system that makes hard to make upward. A system that prefers tax cuts for its citizenry that don’t need it at the expense of others who would benefit if the government invested in them. Hell, I’d go even more radical and say it is them who oppose people being wealthy in that they only want policies that keep the already wealthy-wealthy.

420 GunstarGreen  May 21, 2014 6:45:28am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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What right-wing war on women, etc.

As a genuine dude myself, the math is pretty simple. If she’s not sober, you don’t touch her. “Come back when you’re not drunk, and if you still want a piece of me then, I’ll be all for it.”

Alcohol affects judgement. Everyone knows this, it is well-understood science. Someone with impaired judgement is not to be trusted when it comes to something as intimate as sex. It isn’t hard to keep it in your pants when you know the drinks have been going around.

421 wheat-dogghazi  May 21, 2014 6:47:44am

re: #418 darthstar

They should all show up to testify. There must be thousands of DOJ employees. It would serve the idiot right.

422 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 6:47:59am

re: #413 A Mom Anon

It really just boils down to this:

Unless you are rich, there is literally NOTHING you can do not to be hated and looked down on. And if you do try like hell to move forward somehow, then by god it should be as totally difficult and full of obstacles as possible. With crushing debt and any other thing they can think of, just for sport. Follow their rules, work hard and still aren’t able to make it? Well then fuck you for not catching a break or being born wealthy.

Which is really kind of, well, anti The American Dream, isn’t it?

Don’t forget that trying to get beyond a certain social threshold by hard work and effort when you’re not from the right caste is considered “uppity”.
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423 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:48:45am

re: #420 GunstarGreen

What right-wing war on women, etc.

As a genuine dude myself, the math is pretty simple. If she’s not sober, you don’t touch her. “Come back when you’re not drunk, and if you still want a piece of me then, I’ll be all for it.”

Alcohol affects judgement. Everyone knows this, it is well-understood science. Someone with impaired judgement is not to be trusted when it comes to something as intimate as sex. It isn’t hard to keep it in your pants when you know the drinks have been going around.

Exactly. And fuck the NRO for pushing this crap. Really NRO is just showing why they’ll always be a pathetic rag in my eyes. Whether it’s supporting segregation at its inception, employing many white supremacists, or this shit now.

424 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:50:14am

re: #421 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

They should all show up to testify. There must be thousands of DOJ employees. It would serve the idiot right.

Well DOJ employees work all around the nation so such a scenario would be impossible but it would be hilarious if nearly every DoJ employees in the Washington area from the Attorney for Virginia to the lowest level intern showed up. Issa wants a clown show. Give it to him.

425 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 6:51:05am

Today is Day 3 of my using the commuter bus to work instead of the car/train combo I’ve been using for 15 years. I now have about a one mile drive to my bus pickup location, and they don’t charge for parking, which is a really big deal. Before I was driving about 18 miles to the train station. So am hoping to greatly reduce gas costs and reduce my aggravation with traffic, etc, as well.

The only draw back, or one of them, is the bus leaves earlier, so I have to get up a little earlier. But it’s finally become a trade-off I’m willing to make.

426 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 6:52:19am

One of the negative results of marijuana legalization.

Pot, butane cans litter yard after Puyallup hash oil explosion

PUYALLUP, Wash. — Police say a hash oil extraction operation ended poorly for a group of Puyallup residents Tuesday night when a series of explosions destroyed their car and littered their yard with piles marijuana and more than 300 cans of butane.

Idiots probably got the instructions from a you tube video

427 wheat-dogghazi  May 21, 2014 6:53:43am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

Well DOJ employees work all around the nation so such a scenario would be impossible but it would be hilarious if nearly every DoJ employees in the Washington area from the Attorney for Virginia to the lowest level intern showed up. Issa wants a clown show. Give it to him.

Custodians, security guards — everyone. You’re right about the out-of-town employees. That would be impossible, and a waste of money, but there are plenty of employees in the DC area to make the point. You don’t subpoena an entire cabinet department.

428 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 6:54:07am

uh oh

littlegreenfootballs.com

429 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:54:18am

re: #427 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Custodians, security guards — everyone. You’re right about the out-of-town employees. That would be impossible, and a waste of money, but there are plenty of employees in the DC area to make the point. You don’t subpoena an entire cabinet department.

You do if you’re an attention seeking clown. Oh wait, I just described Issa.

430 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 6:54:47am

China signs 30-year deal for Russian natural gas

China signed a landmark deal Wednesday to buy Russian natural gas worth about $400 billion, giving a boost to diplomatically isolated President Vladimir Putin and expanding Moscow’s ties with Asia.

431 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 6:55:29am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

That comes on the heels of a meeting with VA chief Eric Shinseki. Probably will speak to that issue.

432 Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2014 6:55:53am

re: #416 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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What skills do/did the Walton children have?

433 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 6:55:54am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

littlegreenfootballs.com

New hatchling(s) tzvibg and Yanover both posting pages from the same source.

Coincidence?

434 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:55:56am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

littlegreenfootballs.com

Can I say here with honesty that I’m starting to dislike guns more because of stuff like that? I’m not a pacifist by any means but Holocaust resistance? Really……

435 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 6:56:23am

re: #432 Eventual Carrion

What skills do/did the Walton children have?

The same skills as the Koch brothers.

436 A Mom Anon  May 21, 2014 6:56:38am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Not to mention that this shit is EXACTLY the justification that, well, you know, actual RAPISTS use. So would we accurately be able to say that the NRO is Pro Rapist?

437 Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2014 6:56:53am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

Spoken by a man who couldn’t last a week in a fast food job.

Especially farm work or roofing/construction.

438 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 6:57:03am

re: #335 Lidane

Wheee!

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Ok, that is scary.

439 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:57:28am

re: #436 A Mom Anon

Not to mention that this shit is EXACTLY the justification that, well, you know, actual RAPISTS use. So would we accurately be able to say that the NRO is Pro Rapist?

I don’t think it’s a stretch. I’m getting tired of seeing people justify rape.

440 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 6:57:34am

re: #433 Pie-onist Overlord

Both citing to JDL/Kahanists (an outlawed terror group in Israel). Super.

441 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 6:57:58am

re: #440 lawhawk

Both citing to JDL/Kahanists (an outlawed terror group in Israel). Super.

Yikes.

442 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 6:59:43am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

Yep…..Palin has become yesterday’s news - granted, she still tries to prove she’s a kingmaker in the GOP, but based on the results from various GOP primaries yesterday, her status as kingmaker is dubious at best.

Within a decade, she will be entirely forgotten, aside from her rabid base - she will become little more than a footnote in the history books.

Don’t be so sure. I still think the plan is for her to take McCain’s seat when he retires.

443 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:01:29am

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Don’t be so sure. I still think the plan is for her to take McCain’s seat when he retires.

That’s a possibility I hadn’t thought of; I honestly don’t know whether she’d win a statewide Senate race, even in AZ. I could see her winning a primary, but I’m not so sure in a general election.

444 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 7:01:43am

And yesterday Mrs Lawhawk bumped into Gov. Bobby Jindal on the West Side in Manhattan. Not sure why he was in the area, but probably doing the rounds with key GOPers.

I had to ask her if she needs an exorcism though… that much stupid in so little space could be damaging.

And I missed seeing First Lady Laura Bush, who was at the 9/11 Memorial/Museum yesterday.

Today marks the official opening of the museum to the public.

445 A Mom Anon  May 21, 2014 7:01:47am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord

Let’s see, there’s…being able to fill a swimming pool with money and then dive in…being able to summon staff to take care of your hangnail at a moment’s notice…do a parade wave at the peasants as your chauffer drives you to your next meeting…

446 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:01:47am

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Don’t be so sure. I still think the plan is for her to take McCain’s seat when he retires.

Arizona will be a much more competitive state by then but my God that’s a scary thought. But to be truthful, I’d be worried if she was trying to get on the school board too.

447 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:01:50am
448 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:03:07am

re: #443 Dr Lizardo

That’s a possibility I hadn’t thought of; I honestly don’t know whether she’d win a statewide Senate race, even in AZ. I could see her winning a primary, but I’m not so sure in a general election.

Especially with AZ’s demographics changing so much. I think AZ is going to enter light red/purple territory in the years to come.

449 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:04:14am

re: #442 FemNaziBitch

Don’t be so sure. I still think the plan is for her to take McCain’s seat when he retires.

She has pretty much established residency in AZ.

450 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 7:04:34am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

littlegreenfootballs.com

Page has been removed. Either by down dings or Stinky

451 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:06:35am

re: #448 HappyWarrior

Especially with AZ’s demographics changing so much. I think AZ is going to enter light red/purple territory in the years to come.

That’s my thinking as well. Demographics are changing pretty much everywhere, and that change will be more pronounced over the course of the coming decade.

By 2020/2024, even Texas might be purple, or even blue. If the GOP loses TX, they’re pretty much non-competitive as a national party unless they change their ways. Without TX, they’re going to end up confined to the Deep South and flyover country.

452 wheat-dogghazi  May 21, 2014 7:06:42am

re: #450 Bubblehead II

Page has been removed. Either by down dings or Stinky

I did my part. I downdinged both suspect pages.

453 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:07:54am

re: #450 Bubblehead II

Page has been removed. Either by down dings or Stinky

I just checked the troll’s twitter page. Says he’s a reporter for JewishPress dot com

My surprised face!

454 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:08:37am

Troll isn’t giving up easily

littlegreenfootballs.com

455 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:09:45am

re: #451 Dr Lizardo

That’s my thinking as well. Demographics are changing pretty much everywhere, and that change will be more pronounced over the course of the coming decade.

By 2020/2024, even Texas might be purple, or even blue. If the GOP loses TX, they’re pretty much non-competitive as a national party unless they change their ways. Without TX, they’re going to end up confined to the Deep South and flyover country.

And I think that’s why they oppose immigration reform. They know that their actions have made Hispanics likely to be strong Democrats and they don’t want to deal with the consequences of that. They’re just trying to hold on for life at the moment. Now, what they could do and won’t do because they’re dicks is try to become less condescending to communities that aren’t wealthy white conservative Christians.

456 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 7:09:57am

re: #378 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The people at Vox were formerly at Slate and WaPo (Yglesias and Klein). They’re doing the same things they were doing at their former employers, only under a different brand name. SS/DS (same stuff, different site).

Not exactly groundbreaking.

457 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:10:08am

he’s tweeting links to his lgf pages.

458 ObserverArt  May 21, 2014 7:10:46am

re: #378 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The people who have been gaga over vox confuse me. It’s just another media site, and as you say, it’s on the fluffy side, and yet credulous people are treating it as though it’s something new.

I really don’t get how people get continually hoodwinked by the media’s endless rebranding. Factchecking, explanatory journalism, yadda yadda: it’s all stuff that all journalism should be doing, and very few of the places claiming they’re doing any of it do it in any sort of consistent way.

It seems like its an endless appeal to the knee-jerk contrarians.

Good morning all!

Obdi…one of the things I think needs to be added to your comment about all the new media start ups is the great desire by people to want to be in on the newest ‘thing’ no matter what that thing is.

Of course there is nothing new about that particular human characteristic. It’s been called various things like “keeping up with the Joneses” or “flavor of the month” and others.

But it seems to be even more prevalent with the internet. Everyone wants to be in on the newest thing on the ‘net. And the whole speed of the internet seems to help feed it. News of something new travels faster than ever. How long did it really take for MySpace to go away in favor of Facebook?

Once something becomes big on the ‘net, those that found it first seem to see it as an offense that others are now taking part. So, off they go either looking for or creating something new.

The internet takes all of the standard human traits and hyper-speeds it all.
One of these days either the internet or the people will just blow up from trying to keep up with it all.

Here today. Gone today.

459 wheat-dogghazi  May 21, 2014 7:11:02am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tweeting in a FOR-NEXT loop.

460 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 7:11:13am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just checked the troll’s twitter page. Says he’s a reporter for JewishPress dot com

My surprised face!

Yanover was canned by JewishPress (far right) for being too extreme even for them.

461 wheat-dogghazi  May 21, 2014 7:12:46am

re: #460 Pie-onist Overlord

Yanover was canned from JewishPress (far right) for being too extreme even for them.

Why does he think he can get away with posting here?

462 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 7:12:49am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s tweeting links to his lgf pages.

Going to look like an idiot when those pages disapear. But then he will probably start screaming CENSORSHIP

463 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:13:34am

re: #455 HappyWarrior

And I think that’s why they oppose immigration reform. They know that their actions have made Hispanics likely to be strong Democrats and they don’t want to deal with the consequences of that. They’re just trying to hold on for life at the moment. Now, what they could do and won’t do because they’re dicks is try to become less condescending to communities that aren’t wealthy white conservative Christians.

The GOP leadership seems to be of two minds; on the one hand, they want immigration reform so they can use it to pander to Hispanic voters. On the other hand, they’re afraid of it for the reasons you cited.

The base is almost universally against it, because of their fear of Hispanics voting en bloc for the Democrats, coupled with their nativist sentiments and bigotry.

464 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:13:41am

re: #461 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Why does he think he can get away with posting here?

Didn’t we have that one tweetbot for months? Forget the name. The Camera Bot?

465 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 7:13:55am

Pretty shitty “reporter” if It/he/she wrote this: “Spain is the most anti-Semitic country in Europe, with roots of hatred of Jews dating back to 149.” Where are the data to back up this claim?

466 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 7:14:01am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wish that were true, except that she’s still generating headlines and bringing in money for her chosen candidates (even if they lose). That she’s raising money is seen as a positive; her candidates continually losing is overlooked/ignored because they figure that with enough money and messaging, they’ll win.

And then they spin the message that they win by losing (claiming that they’re pushing the GOP even further to the right). Even if the right is a cliff that they’re fast approaching.

467 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 7:14:48am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Didn’t we have that one tweetbot for months? Forget the name. The Camera Bot?

aigle

468 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:16:50am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh…

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Because the legal definition of RAPE is incorrect?

469 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:17:04am

re: #463 Dr Lizardo

The GOP leadership seems to be of two minds; on the one hand, they want immigration reform so they can use it to pander to Hispanic voters. On the other hand, they’re afraid of it for the reasons you cited.

The base is almost universally against it, because of their fear of Hispanics voting en bloc for the Democrats, coupled with their nativist sentiments and bigotry.

The base is the problem in the end I think. I keep on hearing how when the older Republicans die out, the GOP will get better on social issues and maybe there are some grains of truth to that but in my observations, the new GOP blood- Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, Ryan, Paul, and others are just as if not more socially reactionary than the older ones.

470 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:17:18am

re: #467 Pie-onist Overlord

aigle

Thanks. That’s the one.

471 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 7:19:00am

re: #462 Bubblehead II

Going to look like an idiot when those pages disapear. But then he will probably start screaming CENSORSHIP

Diary of Stalking Dingbats will no doubt be screeching “censorship”.

472 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 7:21:29am

re: #471 Dr. Matt

Diary of Stalking Dingbats will no doubt be screeching “censorship”.

Also too: THERE TEH ANTI-SEMITES & TEH PIE-ONIST IS TEH KAPO!!!!!

473 Ian G.  May 21, 2014 7:22:01am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

The base is the problem in the end I think. I keep on hearing how when the older Republicans die out, the GOP will get better on social issues and maybe there are some grains of truth to that but in my observations, the new GOP blood- Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, Ryan, Paul, and others are just as if not more socially reactionary than the older ones.

Well, those individuals are still pandering to the people who will be in nursing homes/in the ground in 10 years who make up the GOP base. Once the demographics of the country have shifted such that pandering to extremist rural whites is a guarantee of nothing but landslide defeat, these guys will either moderate (Rubio, Ryan, maybe Jindal) or see their political careers finished (Cruz, Paul).

474 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:23:03am
475 ObserverArt  May 21, 2014 7:23:32am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

littlegreenfootballs.com

Link goes nowhere. Did page go bye-bye already?

Wow, it’s been overcast this morning, but damn, someone just turned all the lights off. Guess another downpour/storm is about to break out. I had to turn lights on to see my keyboard.

476 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 7:23:55am

re: #381 A Mom Anon

A degree in Child Development. The church down the street has a day care and they want at least an Associates degree to work in their PreK and infants program. For 9 dollars an hour to start.

I could babysit here I guess, but I worry that people won’t like the fact I have a big dog. She’s as sweet as can be, but if I were looking for a sitter I’d worry too. Maybe doggie day care….I might put up a flier at the dog park and see what happens.

Rules and systems vary, but day care centers here have a caregiver hierarchy, with only the classroom teacher degreed. They have at least one layer of assistant with less certification. US Army follows a similar pattern, with a level of in-home care far more structured than babysitter. The Family Care providers get a good vetting and many hours of classes over a certification process.

477 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:24:08am

re: #475 ObserverArt

Link goes nowhere. Did page go bye-bye already?

Wow, it’s been overcast this morning, but damn, someone just turned all the lights off. Guess another downpour/storm is about to break out. I had to turn lights on to see my keyboard.

That page is gone, but he put up another one.

478 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:25:22am

re: #473 Ian G.

Well, those individuals are still pandering to the people who will be in nursing homes/in the ground in 10 years who make up the GOP base. Once the demographics of the country have shifted such that pandering to extremist rural whites is a guarantee of nothing but landslide defeat, these guys will either moderate (Rubio, Ryan, maybe Jindal) or see their political careers finished (Cruz, Paul).

That sums up my thinking on it as well. Once extremist rural whites diminish as a political force over the next decade or so, the smarter politicians will moderate their stances and those who don’t will see their political careers come to end.

479 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:28:41am

Does anyone think that the Republican base is more hesitant to change than the Democratic one because of certain quirks that make one a conservative versus a liberal. In my observations, conservatives are more stuck in their way types, more likely to believe in doing things the way tehy’ve always been done while liberals tend to think the opposite. I think the latter explains why the Democrats did adapt after having some tough times in the 80’s. and while I think the Republicans struggle at least in national elections. The bigger thing that remains though is that as the country gets more diverse culturally, the better the Dems do and I think that’s something that the Republicans know and it scares the crap out of them which is why you see Gohmert like outbursts like we did yesterday where the imbecile said some crap about the immigration luring children to emigrate. I don’t know.

480 ObserverArt  May 21, 2014 7:28:52am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

That page is gone, but he put up another one.

I think it is gone too.

Like I was saying…the damn ‘net is fast. And I can’t keep up with it this morning.

481 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:30:21am

Fellow True Detective fans though. Hearing rumors that Jessica Chastain got offered a lead for Season 2? That sounds promising to me. All I know about S2 is it’s going to be set in California- LA I think was specified.

482 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:30:28am

re: #420 GunstarGreen

What right-wing war on women, etc.

As a genuine dude myself, the math is pretty simple. If she’s not sober, you don’t touch her. “Come back when you’re not drunk, and if you still want a piece of me then, I’ll be all for it.”

Alcohol affects judgement. Everyone knows this, it is well-understood science. Someone with impaired judgement is not to be trusted when it comes to something as intimate as sex. It isn’t hard to keep it in your pants when you know the drinks have been going around.

How simple can it be?

483 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:31:43am

Change your password on

484 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:31:48am

re: #482 FemNaziBitch

How simple can it be?

Apparently not simple enough for the primitives that run and write for NRO.

485 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 7:32:03am

Happy Warrior posted:

Fellow True Detective fans though. Hearing rumors that Jessica Chastain got offered a lead for Season 2? That sounds promising to me. All I know about S2 is it’s going to be set in California- LA I think was specified.

Praise be!

Love me some Jessica Chastain, and some True Detective.

486 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:32:09am

re: #479 HappyWarrior

Does anyone think that the Republican base is more hesitant to change than the Democratic one because of certain quirks that make one a conservative versus a liberal. In my observations, conservatives are more stuck in their way types, more likely to believe in doing things the way tehy’ve always been done while liberals tend to think the opposite. I think the latter explains why the Democrats did adapt after having some tough times in the 80’s. and while I think the Republicans struggle at least in national elections. The bigger thing that remains though is that as the country gets more diverse culturally, the better the Dems do and I think that’s something that the Republicans know and it scares the crap out of them which is why you see Gohmert like outbursts like we did yesterday where the imbecile said some crap about the immigration luring children to emigrate. I don’t know.

Just from my anecdotal observations of wingnut postings, I’d say they’re more afraid than anything else. They’re ruled by their fears.

487 Charles Johnson  May 21, 2014 7:32:41am

Lovely. An invasion of Kahanists.

488 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 7:33:17am

re: #482 FemNaziBitch

How simple can it be?

Sister Mary Claver simple: “Don’t screw her until you marry her, and work out the reception drinking in advance.”

Has some problems in application.

489 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:33:33am

re: #487 Charles Johnson

Lovely. An invasion of Kahanists.

Well, that’s a hell of way to begin the day, that’s for sure.

490 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:34:41am

re: #485 Bulworth

Happy Warrior posted:

Praise be!

Love me some Jessica Chastain, and some True Detective.

I like her a lot too. Wonder who they’d pair her up with. McConnaughey and Harrelson had some awesome chemistry.

491 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:35:23am

re: #486 Dr Lizardo

Just from my anecdotal observations of wingnut postings, I’d say they’re more afraid than anything else. They’re ruled by their fears.

Yeah and I think that gets to the liberal and conservative broader approach to change that goes beyond politics.

492 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 7:38:18am

re: #479 HappyWarrior

Does anyone think that the Republican base is more hesitant to change than the Democratic one because of certain quirks that make one a conservative versus a liberal. In my observations, conservatives are more stuck in their way types, more likely to believe in doing things the way tehy’ve always been done while liberals tend to think the opposite. I think the latter explains why the Democrats did adapt after having some tough times in the 80’s. and while I think the Republicans struggle at least in national elections. The bigger thing that remains though is that as the country gets more diverse culturally, the better the Dems do and I think that’s something that the Republicans know and it scares the crap out of them which is why you see Gohmert like outbursts like we did yesterday where the imbecile said some crap about the immigration luring children to emigrate. I don’t know.

I think the GOP polarized itself into a corner. You go back to roughly the 80s and both parties were much broader and essentially had internal conservative and liberal wings. The GOP leaned conservative, but had moderates and even liberals by the definitions of the day. Complete nuts were marginalized by both parties for the most part.

Once the purges started based on party loyalty and purity towards selected policies they started down their current road.

493 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 7:38:39am
494 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:39:15am

re: #483 FemNaziBitch

Change your password on

ebay

495 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:39:23am

re: #492 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the GOP polarized itself into a corner. You go back to roughly the 80s and both parties were much broader and essentially had internal conservative and liberal wings. The GOP leaned conservative, but had moderates and even liberals by the definitions of the day. Complete nuts were marginalized by both parties for the most part.

Once the purges started based on party loyalty and purity towards selected policies they started down their current road.

That’s a really good point.

496 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 7:39:45am
497 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:41:00am

Let’s see it was 2-3-4 (I can’t remember) years ago that the Census Bureau stated there were more non-white births than white births.

That gives the GOP about 15? years left.

498 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 7:41:46am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

That’s a really good point.

A secondary effect of the purity thing was that they appeared to lose any ability to actually *politic* in Congress. Few, if any, compromises and that silly Hastert Rule.

499 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:42:11am

re: #494 FemNaziBitch

ebay

Done- thanks.

500 Ian G.  May 21, 2014 7:43:16am

re: #487 Charles Johnson

Lovely. An invasion of Kahanists.

Yeah. How did this happen?

501 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:43:22am

re: #498 Feline Fearless Leader

A secondary effect of the purity thing was that they appeared to lose any ability to actually *politic* in Congress. Few, if any, compromises and that silly Hastert Rule.

Yep certainly true too. I’m going to be interested in seeing what kind of people they nominate as more and more people from my generation come of candidate age.

502 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:44:10am

How could I forget the current condition report for my part of the world?

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 05/21/2014

*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
*********************************
Trees: Moderate Concentration
Weeds: High Concentration
Grass: Moderate Concentration
Mold: Moderate Concentration

Heck of a storm last night, I guess lot’s of hail damage. I haven’t checked my car yet.

503 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:44:48am

re: #491 HappyWarrior

Yeah and I think that gets to the liberal and conservative broader approach to change that goes beyond politics.

A friend back in the US, who I would describe as mildly conservative (she’s certainly not a wingnut) and with whom I’ve had friendly debates over the years once asked me, “How can you go live in another country where you don’t speak the language, know nothing about it, and you’re not scared? I’d be scared shitless - I’d never leave my apartment or house or whatever.”

I told her, “It’s no big deal to me. I view it as an adventure.”

Of course, she’s also had some fears of Muslims, and was stunned when she found out I’d become one. She was greatly relieved when my personality hadn’t changed. I’m still a huge smartass and my tastes haven’t changed over the years. I chalk that up to being 40 when I converted - almost five years ago - and falling in with a good group, specifically, the Naqshbandi-Haqqani school of Sufism, which is quite mild. Well, a little bit ‘monarchist’ for my political tastes - quite a few of the German Sufis I knew were indeed genuine monarchists - but I reckon no two people will ever see eye-to-eye on everything.

504 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 7:46:06am

Happy Warrior posted:

McConnaughey and Harrelson had some awesome chemistry.

yeah, they’re buddies in real life.

505 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:47:11am
506 b.d.  May 21, 2014 7:47:24am

re: #493 lawhawk

“Operation American Spring was BECKSTABBED”

Party of personal responsibility.

//

507 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:48:08am
508 Ian G.  May 21, 2014 7:48:48am

re: #503 Dr Lizardo

How can you go live in another country where you don’t speak the language, know nothing about it, and you’re not scared? I’d be scared shitless - I’d never leave my apartment or house or whatever.

Yeah, I guess this is part of what makes me not a conservative. I mean, OK, I’d be scared of leaving my apartment in a place like Venezuela or Pakistan, but come on. Someone afraid of leaving their house in a place like Vienna, just because the language is different? That sounds like an adventure to me, just like it does to you.

509 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:50:07am

heh…

510 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 7:50:39am

If Glenn Beck thinks you’re too right-wing crazy, then you know something is wrong.

511 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:51:27am

re: #508 Ian G.

Yeah, I guess this is part of what makes me not a conservative. I mean, OK, I’d be scared of leaving my apartment in a place like Venezuela or Pakistan, but come on. Someone afraid of leaving their house in a place like Vienna, just because the language is different? That sounds like an adventure to me, just like it does to you.

My favorite part of traveling has always been trying to find places where locals go. I mean I don’t mind playing tourist because I obviously want to see the famous sites but at the same time, I love the idea of just having a beer with the locals.

512 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:52:16am

pic of Speilberg on twitter sitting in front of a “big kill” —people are freaking out thinking he’s been big game hunting for real.

513 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 7:53:16am

re: #512 FemNaziBitch

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pic of Speilberg on twitter sitting in front of a “big kill” —people are freaking out thinking he’s been big game hunting for real.

Science, how does that work?

514 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 7:53:30am

re: #507 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Stoned driving isn’t the only problem. Would be chemists blowing shit up is also on the rise.

Pot, butane cans litter yard after Puyallup hash oil explosion

The video is scary good.

515 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 7:53:41am

re: #512 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

pic of Speilberg on twitter sitting in front of a “big kill” —people are freaking out thinking he’s been big game hunting for real.

Yeah, if people are really freaking out over that, heaven help us, because that tells me there’s far more stupid people out there than I would have ever imagined possible.

*smh*

516 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 7:54:36am

re: #500 Ian G.

Yeah. How did this happen?

Side effect of allowing people to register and make pages right away.

517 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:54:46am

Please tell me people actually aren’t freaking out over that……….Come on people we learned that all the dinosaurs went extinct when we were in kindergarten. The same year we draw around our hands to make turkeys for Thanksgiving.

518 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 7:55:59am

re: #517 HappyWarrior

Please tell me people actually aren’t freaking out over that……….Come on people we learned that all the dinosaurs went extinct when we were in kindergarten. The same year we draw around our hands to make turkeys for Thanksgiving.

There were no dinosaurs around when I was in kindergarten.

I’m old but not THAT OLD.

519 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 7:56:19am

re: #505 FemNaziBitch

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Vast change from the 1950s seminary intake. We had signed by 12-13, and maintained a 50% per annum dropout rate for the 12-13 years of training. Most were US-born of European Catholic immigrant background.

520 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:56:20am
521 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:57:18am

re: #518 Pie-onist Overlord

There were no dinosaurs around when I was in kindergarten.

I’m old but not THAT OLD.

Hahaha. But yeah. Seriously.

522 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 7:57:41am

re: #512 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

pic of Speilberg on twitter sitting in front of a “big kill” —people are freaking out thinking he’s been big game hunting for real.

Impressive that he took it with a hand-knapped flint spear point.

523 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 7:57:56am

Kutsher’s is finally getting demolished, and it’s a rather sad ending to the illustrious history of the Catskills.

I remember seeing Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons there along with the Mommas and the Papas in the Starlight Lounge. Meeting NBA basketball players and WWF wrestlers there. First kiss/crush. Skiing. Skating. Partying. Playing bingo and trivia (and winning at both). Eating obnoxious amounts of food (if you were going to order breakfast, make sure you ordered the bagels and lox on the side; you’d get 1/2 pound of the good stuff).

Now, all there are wishful dreaming that a casino will somehow reinvent the Catskills and the tourism industry. And empty lots and piles of rubble where the comedy greats and Hollywood stars once roamed.

524 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 7:59:18am

re: #510 Dr. Matt

If Glenn Beck thinks you’re too right-wing crazy, then you know something is wrong.

When Beck is the voice of reason, you know you’ve gone off the deep end.

525 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 7:59:27am

re: #523 lawhawk

Kutcher’s is finally getting demolished, and it’s a rather sad ending to the illustrious history of the Catskills.

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I remember seeing Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons there along with the Mommas and the Papas in the Starlight Lounge. Meeting NBA basketball players and WWF wrestlers there. First kiss/crush. Skiing. Skating. Partying. Playing bingo and trivia (and winning at both). Eating obnoxious amounts of food (if you were going to order breakfast, make sure you ordered the bagels and lox on the side; you’d get 1/2 pound of the good stuff).

Now, all there are wishful dreaming that a casino will somehow reinvent the Catskills and the tourism industry. And empty lots and piles of rubble where the comedy greats and Hollywood stars once roamed.

oooh, what was the book?

Herman Wouk —Marjorie Morningstar.

Wasn’t much of the setting in one of those old resorts?

526 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 7:59:41am

re: #504 Bulworth

Happy Warrior posted:

yeah, they’re buddies in real life.

Doesn’t surprise me. Those two would be a lot of fun to sit around and have a beer or joint with heh knowing their hobbies.

527 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 8:00:06am

re: #503 Dr Lizardo

A friend back in the US, who I would describe as mildly conservative (she’s certainly not a wingnut) and with whom I’ve had friendly debates over the years once asked me, “How can you go live in another country where you don’t speak the language, know nothing about it, and you’re not scared? I’d be scared shitless - I’d never leave my apartment or house or whatever.”

I told her, “It’s no big deal to me. I view it as an adventure.”

Of course, she’s also had some fears of Muslims, and was stunned when she found out I’d become one. She was greatly relieved when my personality hadn’t changed. I’m still a huge smartass and my tastes haven’t changed over the years. I chalk that up to being 40 when I converted - almost five years ago - and falling in with a good group, specifically, the Naqshbandi-Haqqani school of Sufism, which is quite mild. Well, a little bit ‘monarchist’ for my political tastes - quite a few of the German Sufis I knew were indeed genuine monarchists - but I reckon no two people will ever see eye-to-eye on everything.

This is the sort of thing I keep in mind when exploring websites (or chains of them when people have multiple sites). There are myriad backgrounds and paths by which someone came from their birth to their current position and opinions. And even if they are snappish, defensive, and prone to chuck labels at people (especially in political disputes) I try to resist doing that in return. I suspect that very few people are completely stereotypical and that in civil conversation a lot of their complexities would come out.

Which I think is one reason I see people running hobby sites and also maintaining a separate site for politics or religion discussion.

528 b.d.  May 21, 2014 8:00:08am

BBQ @ Speilberg’s, I’ll bring some potato salad and a bag of ice.

529 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:00:22am

Liberman: US has no right to tell Israel to investigate deaths of Palestinians

Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman said on Wednesday during a speech at Ariel University that he rejects the international community’s requests to investigate the killing of two Palestinian teenagers - allegedly by the IDF - during the May 15 Nakba Day riots by Ofer Prison near Ramallah.

“We don’t need an American demand to investigate what happened. The IDF is the most moral army in the world. I am sorry that such demands don’t come for other situations. In Syria, close to 170 thousand people have been killed and I haven’t seen any active response from the international community to investigate those deaths. Hamas kills Gazans without trials. I haven’t seen any requests from the international community regarding that,” the foreign minister said.

Liberman continued and questioned the authenticity of the videos. “Moreover, the video wasn’t released immediately, rather a few days later, and it raises questions.”

Sounds like another Pallywood propaganda video was created.

530 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 8:00:45am

too funny:

Tea Partier Endorses Herself Using Fake Organization in New Campaign Ad

What’s a Tea Partier to do when the party you aligned yourself with is less popular than atheists in this country? Tea Party Candidate and Montana Family Foundation lobbyist Debra Lamm appears to have found a way out of the conundrum — if you can’t find an organization to support you, make one up.

531 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:02:00am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

too funny:

Tea Partier Endorses Herself Using Fake Organization in New Campaign Ad

Prestige Worldwide is happy to endorse your candidate.

532 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 8:02:05am

re: #518 Pie-onist Overlord

There were no dinosaurs around when I was in kindergarten.

I’m old but not THAT OLD.

That we don’t get any pictures of raptor pie is one of the shortcomings of that.
:(

533 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2014 8:03:07am

re: #525 FemNaziBitch

oooh, what was the book?

Herman Wouk —Marjorie Morningstar.

Wasn’t much of the setting in one of those old resorts?


“Nobody puts Baby in the corner.”

534 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 8:03:12am

Newest Fox-spawned OUTRAGE!!!!
This guy was arrested for trying to bring guns into Mexico. He claims he never intended to go into Mexico, that he was just driving around near the border and took a wrong turn.
I. CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING.

535 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 8:03:49am

re: #531 HappyWarrior

Prestige Worldwide is happy to endorse your candidate.

For a small fee of $199.95. Checks or postal money orders only. Bitcoin accepted as well.

536 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 8:04:07am

The line between comedy and news was erased long ago
Rand Paul Cites Colbert While Railing Against Obama Extrajudicial Killings
It’s embarrassing what we’ve become

537 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 8:04:18am

Where I live there is no way you could take a wrong turn and end up in Canada.

You could end up in the river, though.

538 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 8:05:25am

re: #537 Pie-onist Overlord

Where I live there is no way you could take a wrong turn and end up in Canada.

You could end up in the river, though.

You’d also be driving south wouldn’t you?

539 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 8:05:39am
540 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 8:06:53am
541 Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2014 8:08:34am

re: #539 FemNaziBitch

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Just wait until they all get a chance to read Nicholas Wade’s new book, “A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History.” I’m already seeing it being given glowing reviews in the RW blogosphere.

542 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 8:08:45am

re: #509 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, but you should have seen Newman. It wasn’t pretty. That T-Rex has his bust up over his mantle. /

543 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:08:57am

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

Liberman: US has no right to tell Israel to investigate deaths of Palestinians

Sounds like another Pallywood propaganda video was created.

Avigor Lieberman is a wild extremist who cut off relations with the Mossad. Using him as a source is dubious. He’s also a fan of Putin.

He once suggested bombing Aswan Dam in retaliation for Egyptian support of Arafat.

As usual, you probably don’t actually know that much about the person you’re quoting, so you’re not intentionally citing a kook, but I figured you’d want to know.

544 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:09:22am

Unbelievable.

9/11 Museum, which sits on unidentified remains of attack victims, hosts alcohol-fueled party night before opening

On the eve of its grand opening to the public, the 9/11 Museum in lower Manhattan closed its doors to all but VIPs.

The sacred site that contains the remains of 1,115 unidentified victims became a private club for invited guests Tuesday night, sources told the Daily News — and some first responders were turned away during party preparations.

Former Mayor Mike Bloomberg and Condé Nast honchos were among those who nibbled crab cakes and shrimp cocktail hors d’oeuvres at the black tie affair, billed as a dedication ceremony, according to sources.

But one museum employee at the event, who spoke on condition of anonymity, described it as a festive affair.

“They were drinking, eating and laughing when this is pretty much a gravesite,” the employee said.

About 60 guests attended the soiree from 6:30 to 9:30 p.m.

The Information Desk on the museum’s lower level was converted into a bar for the night, the employee said.

545 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 8:09:24am
546 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:09:32am

re: #536 Killgore Trout

The line between comedy and news was erased long ago
Rand Paul Cites Colbert While Railing Against Obama Extrajudicial Killings
It’s embarrassing what we’ve become

“We”?

547 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 8:10:45am

re: #525 FemNaziBitch

Book? Beats me. Many of my childhood vacations were to Kutshers, Grossingers, Homowack, and the Nevele.

548 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 8:10:59am

re: #529 NJDhockeyfan

Liberman: US has no right to tell Israel to investigate deaths of Palestinians

Sounds like another Pallywood propaganda video was created.

Interesting, it’s always hard to tell what’s going on with these videos. It does look odd. When the guy is hit he has the presence to break his fall with his hands, appears to be out cold but then adjusts the bandana covering his face. Looks questionable but I wouldn’t bet either way.

549 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:11:14am

re: #534 Pie-onist Overlord

Newest Fox-spawned OUTRAGE!!!!
This guy was arrested for trying to bring guns into Mexico. He claims he never intended to go into Mexico, that he was just driving around near the border and took a wrong turn.
I. CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING.

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And a lot of the same people who are absolutely militant about our border being ultrasecure are going to be protesting that this guy got arrested for crossing a border with guns.

550 Charles Johnson  May 21, 2014 8:12:40am
551 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:13:19am

re: #549 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

And a lot of the same people who are absolutely militant about our border being ultrasecure are going to be protesting that this guy got arrested for crossing a border with guns.

Yep. Damned good point.

552 Charles Johnson  May 21, 2014 8:13:50am

Looks like I now live in their heads.

553 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:14:02am

re: #543 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Avigor Lieberman is a wild extremist who cut off relations with the Mossad. Using him as a source is dubious. He’s also a fan of Putin.

He once suggested bombing Aswan Dam in retaliation for Egyptian support of Arafat.

As usual, you probably don’t actually know that much about the person you’re quoting, so you’re not intentionally citing a kook, but I figured you’d want to know.

I posted a story from the Jerusalem Post and I do agree with Lieberman on this. The claims of the IDF killing two teenagers is suspect at best. The US doesn’t need to be telling Israel what they need to be doing.

554 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 8:14:02am

re: #549 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

And a lot of the same people who are absolutely militant about our border being ultrasecure are going to be protesting that this guy got arrested for crossing a border with guns.

When driving to the USA/Canada border there are signs LAST EXIT BEFORE CANADA, BORDER CROSSING NEXT EXIT, FIREARMS MAY NOT BE BROUGHT INTO CANADA.

I am sure similar signage is posted at the other border.

555 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:14:38am

re: #550 Charles Johnson

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And by ‘literal’ he means ‘figurative’.

556 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 8:15:53am

re: #544 NJDhockeyfan

Unbelievable.

9/11 Museum, which sits on unidentified remains of attack victims, hosts alcohol-fueled party night before opening

I suppose some people can’t do anything without alcohol? Sad.

557 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:15:57am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

I posted a story from the Jerusalem Post and I do agree with Lieberman on this. The claims of the IDF killing two teenagers is suspect at best. The US doesn’t need to be telling Israel what they need to be doing.

That’s missing the point by a mile of what I pointed out to you. Whether or not the story is true, quoting Lieberman is quoting a guy who has called for mass killing of civilians, as well as the execution of Arab members of the Knesset.

I was assuming you’d have a problem with that. Do you not?

558 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:15:57am

re: #554 Pie-onist Overlord

When driving to the USA/Canada border there are signs LAST EXIT BEFORE CANADA, BORDER CROSSING NEXT EXIT, FIREARMS MAY NOT BE BROUGHT INTO CANADA.

I am sure similar signage is posted at the other border.

I’d have to assume so. At best, the guy’s an imbecile. At worst, a gunrunner who committed a crime.

559 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 8:16:20am

re: #554 Pie-onist Overlord

When driving to the USA/Canada border there are signs LAST EXIT BEFORE CANADA, BORDER CROSSING NEXT EXIT, FIREARMS MAY NOT BE BROUGHT INTO CANADA.

I am sure similar signage is posted at the other border.

Big time.

560 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 8:16:46am

OH NOES1!!! TEH HACKERS HAS CATNAPPED ALL TEH KITTEHS!!!!!!

561 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 8:17:40am

re: #546 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

“We”?

The Lone Ranger and Tonto are watching a horde of Indian braves bear down on them in full battle fury. “Looks like we’re in trouble, Tonto,” says the Lone Ranger to his pal. “What you mean ‘we,’ white man?,” Tonto responds.

Someone, find it on youtube. I’m just not that talented.

562 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 8:18:22am

re: #552 Charles Johnson

Looks like I now live in their heads.

Does that mean you are relevant?

563 FemNaziBitch  May 21, 2014 8:20:10am

bbl

564 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:20:47am

re: #557 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That’s missing the point by a mile of what I pointed out to you. Whether or not the story is true, quoting Lieberman is quoting a guy who has called for mass killing of civilians, as well as the execution of Arab members of the Knesset.

I was assuming you’d have a problem with that. Do you not?

What Lieberman said is spot on.

565 ObserverArt  May 21, 2014 8:21:54am

re: #552 Charles Johnson

Looks like I now live in their heads.

Be sure to stretch out to take up as much space as possible. Maybe invite a few good friends over and have a party or something.

566 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 8:21:59am

re: #564 NJDhockeyfan

What Lieberman said is spot on.

Maybe find somebody else who is not crazypants who says the same thing. Kthxbai.

567 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 8:22:21am

“Trust us. But don’t trust the govt.”

PayPal says eBay security breach investigation has shown no evidence of unauthorized access or compromise to personal or financial information for PayPal customers’ - statement via @NBCNews
End of alert

568 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 8:22:28am

Need Moar Coffee!

569 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 8:23:05am

re: #544 NJDhockeyfan

Look, I’m no fan of the Museum and Foundation operations because they should have been turned over to the NPS for administration to make sure that access is free.

Instead, you’ve got a memorial foundation that needs fundraisers and ways to thank those who have donated to get it open. That’s going to include parties like this. That’s the reality of running a museum on the WTC site.

But if you think this was the only party or that there wont be parties elsewhere on the grounds of the WTC, you’d be mistaken.

What do you think will happen as the occupants start taking up residence in 1 and 4WTC? Conde Naste will have parties for their clients in and among the opulent offices they’ve got planned. So too will the businesses in 4WTC. Heck, 4WTC has been leased out for various social events already - there’s a rooftop deck that has been used for commercials and parties.

The whole of Ground Zero is a memorial and reminder of the 9/11 attacks. Rebuilding necessarily entailed building and bringing life back into the site.

The Memorial as I’ve noted is particularly moving for those that wish to see it in that way. It may end up being something different to other people years from now. The Museum is meant to make sure that the spirit of what happened on 9/11 and the memories of what happened will live on - and that means raising money to keep it going (in the absence of government at some level footing the tab).

570 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 8:24:03am

re: #561 FemNaziBitch

The Lord says that I’ll get out of this fine mess, but he’s pretty sure you’re fooked. /Stephen

571 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:24:56am

re: #564 NJDhockeyfan

What Lieberman said is spot on.

Okay. Do you get the concept that someone can say something that’s spot on and still be an awful, terrible person? You’re just dodging this over and over.

572 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 8:27:58am

re: #571 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Okay. Do you get the concept that someone can say something that’s spot on and still be an awful, terrible person? You’re just dodging this over and over.

You’re raining on the chosen narrative of the morning. Why do you keep doing that?
// ;P

573 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 8:28:29am

Hollywood extras are paid union rates & get union protections on the job. (What, you thought the guy in that picture is an Actual Soldier?)

574 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:29:58am

re: #573 Pie-onist Overlord

What about the wives, siblings, children of soldiers and veterans who are working those jobs? Not to mention the veterans themselves.

Such limited thinking.

575 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:30:44am

re: #573 Pie-onist Overlord

Hollywood extras are paid union rates & get union protections on the job. (What, you thought the guy in that picture is an Actual Soldier?)

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Where’s that stupid meme when McDonalds executives give themselves a raise for when profits are down? Oh wait. They’re rich fuckers so they don’t care but when a minimum wage worker wants to be paid better, it’s an outrage. So yeah fuck off wingnut.

576 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:31:29am

re: #574 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

What about the wives, siblings, children of soldiers and veterans who are working those jobs? Not to mention the veterans themselves.

Such limited thinking.

For sure. Or the fact that many who may be working those jobs may be veterans themselves. Just like that homeless guy that they’re rude to. He could well be a veteran.

577 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 8:31:41am

re: #574 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

What about the wives, siblings, children of soldiers and veterans who are working those jobs? Not to mention the veterans themselves.

Such limited thinking.

Once we start cloning our soldiers in a lab and raising them in vats we won’t have to worry about these annoying dependents and other emotional attachments.
///

578 ObserverArt  May 21, 2014 8:31:46am

re: #571 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Okay. Do you get the concept that someone can say something that’s spot on and still be an awful, terrible person? You’re just dodging this over and over.

Do you know who else said some things that were spot on?

I think there is also that saying about a stopped clock.

579 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:33:28am

re: #569 lawhawk

Look, I’m no fan of the Museum and Foundation operations because they should have been turned over to the NPS for administration to make sure that access is free.

Instead, you’ve got a memorial foundation that needs fundraisers and ways to thank those who have donated to get it open. That’s going to include parties like this. That’s the reality of running a museum on the WTC site.

But if you think this was the only party or that there wont be parties elsewhere on the grounds of the WTC, you’d be mistaken.

What do you think will happen as the occupants start taking up residence in 1 and 4WTC? Conde Naste will have parties for their clients in and among the opulent offices they’ve got planned. So too will the businesses in 4WTC. Heck, 4WTC has been leased out for various social events already - there’s a rooftop deck that has been used for commercials and parties.

The whole of Ground Zero is a memorial and reminder of the 9/11 attacks. Rebuilding necessarily entailed building and bringing life back into the site.

The Memorial as I’ve noted is particularly moving for those that wish to see it in that way. It may end up being something different to other people years from now. The Museum is meant to make sure that the spirit of what happened on 9/11 and the memories of what happened will live on - and that means raising money to keep it going (in the absence of government at some level footing the tab).

I have no problem with them throwing parties and I can see why there is outrage over this party. I understand the need to raise all the money they can get. The problem with this party is they had had it with unidentified remains stored right below them. This doesn’t look good at all in the eyes of victims families.

580 Ian G.  May 21, 2014 8:33:58am

re: #511 HappyWarrior

My favorite part of traveling has always been trying to find places where locals go. I mean I don’t mind playing tourist because I obviously want to see the famous sites but at the same time, I love the idea of just having a beer with the locals.

I brought up Vienna because that’s a place where I did a lot of solo wandering, only knowing a smattering of German. I got coffee and lunch in places where the wait staff didn’t know a lick of English. It was fun.

My northern European genes made it very easy to mistake me for a local too. I had a group of cute young German tourist women come up to me to ask me for directions (in German). I heard “Grüß Gott” (a casual greeting common in Austria and Bavaria) and then didn’t understand a word of what they said afterward. I sheepishly asked “Sprechen sie Englisch?” which got a huge laugh. That was a fun moment too.

581 Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2014 8:34:06am

re: #531 HappyWarrior

Prestige Worldwide is happy to endorse your candidate.

I have been endorsed by the Human Fund.

582 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:34:55am

re: #571 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Okay. Do you get the concept that someone can say something that’s spot on and still be an awful, terrible person? You’re just dodging this over and over.

Yes I can but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

583 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:36:36am

re: #582 NJDhockeyfan

Yes I can but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Okay. Would you quote an article that had David Duke saying something about black Americans, if what he was saying happened to be ‘right’?

584 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 8:36:56am

2014 has not been a good year for GM.

GM adds 218,000 subcompacts to growing recall list

The new recall, posted Wednesday on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website, covers Aveos from the 2004 through 2008 model years. The daytime running light module in the dashboard center stack can overheat, melt and catch fire. GM is aware of an unspecified number of fires due to the problem, but spokesman Alan Adler says it does not know of any injuries or deaths.

585 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:37:51am

re: #583 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Okay. Would you quote an article that had David Duke saying something about black Americans, if what he was saying happened to be ‘right’?

WTF? David Duke?

586 Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2014 8:39:19am

re: #584 Bubblehead II

2014 has not been a good year for GM.

GM adds 218,000 subcompacts to growing recall list

The new recall, posted Wednesday on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website, covers Aveos from the 2004 through 2008 model years. The daytime running light module in the dashboard center stack can overheat, melt and catch fire. GM is aware of an unspecified number of fires due to the problem, but spokesman Alan Adler says it does not know of any injuries or deaths.

I own a 2011 Chevy. So far I’ve been safe but I gotta admit, with new recalls almost daily…I’m getting nervous.

587 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:40:53am

re: #580 Ian G.

I brought up Vienna because that’s a place where I did a lot of solo wandering, only knowing a smattering of German. I got coffee and lunch in places where the wait staff didn’t know a lick of English. It was fun.

My northern European genes made it very easy to mistake me for a local too. I had a group of cute young German tourist women come up to me to ask me for directions (in German). I heard “Grüß Gott” (a casual greeting common in Austria and Bavaria) and then didn’t understand a word of what they said afterward. I sheepishly asked “Sprechen sie Englisch?” which got a huge laugh. That was a fun moment too.

Vienna is a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun there. There was a Slovakian bartender roomie and I met and she was just really friendly to me because I’m part Slovak myself and I think she got a kick out of the fact that there was an American that not only knew of her country but knew it wasn’t just the country from Hostel. I am going back to Europe this summer actually. Trying to brush up on my Spanish and learn some Catalan for my time in Barcelona.

588 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2014 8:41:50am

re: #581 Eclectic Cyborg

I have been endorsed by the Human Fund.

I’m a recipient of the C. Montgomery Burns Award in the field of excellence.

589 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 8:43:43am

re: #584 Bubblehead II

Some of this is reaction to the fact that the prior GM executives (pre-bankruptcy) hid the ignition switch problems, and there were fatalities from those incidents. They’re going to recall anything that might result in something dangerous. It means getting back to basics and improving the safety culture at the company.

590 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:43:51am

re: #585 NJDhockeyfan

WTF? David Duke?

Yes, David Duke. He hasn’t said things that are as extreme as Lieberman, but he’s obviously a ‘broken clock’.

Okay. Would you quote an article that had David Duke saying something about black Americans, if what he was saying happened to be ‘right’?

591 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 8:46:33am

re: #582 NJDhockeyfan

Yes I can but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

You retweeted Malkin a couple weeks ago.

592 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:46:42am

re: #590 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yes, David Duke. He hasn’t said things that are as extreme as Lieberman, but he’s obviously a ‘broken clock’.

Okay. Would you quote an article that had David Duke saying something about black Americans, if what he was saying happened to be ‘right’?

No I’m not going to look up David Duke quotes. I’m going to end this discussion now that It’s heading into Bizarro World.

o_O

593 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:47:11am

re: #591 wrenchwench

You retweeted Malkin a couple weeks ago.

I did? I don’t remember doing that.

594 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 8:48:05am

re: #586 Eclectic Cyborg

I own a 2011 Chevy. So far I’ve been safe but I gotta admit, with new recalls almost daily…I’m getting nervous.

You own one of these?

595 Stanley Sea  May 21, 2014 8:53:40am

re: #579 NJDhockeyfan

I have no problem with them throwing parties and I can see why there is outrage over this party. I understand the need to raise all the money they can get. The problem with this party is they had had it with unidentified remains stored right below them. This doesn’t look good at all in the eyes of victims families.

Those remains are not going anywhere.

596 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 8:54:27am

All those bees in Delaware yesterday?
Trucker cited after bees escape along I-95

(Note: there’s an autoplay video at the link)

State police cited the driver, Adolpho Guerra, 55, of Miami, Florida, with having an unsafe load. Guerra suffered 50-100 bee stings and was treated at Christiana Hospital for what Sgt. Paul Shavack called minor injuries. Two passengers also were taken to the hospital for treatment of bee stings.

597 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 8:55:02am

re: #593 NJDhockeyfan

I did? I don’t remember doing that.

Same thing you said then.

88 NJDhockeyfan 3/28/2014 12:57:22 pm PDT -3

re: #85 wrenchwench

You just basically retweeted Malkin. Congrats.

Did I? I didn’t see that. Oops.

598 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 8:55:27am

re: #592 NJDhockeyfan

No I’m not going to look up David Duke quotes. I’m going to end this discussion now that It’s heading into Bizarro World.

o_O

It’s not bizarro world, it’s just you dodging the question, as usual.

Avigdor Lieberman has said insane, foul things, like advocating mass civilian casualties in Egypt, the execution of fellow legislators. He is so extreme that he cut off relationships with the Mossad. He is more extreme than David Duke. But your response to being confronted with what a nutter he is is saying that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I’m trying to get you to understand that when you do things like quote from nutjobs from Ace of Spades, or approvingly give LIebernman’s view on something, or repost yet another ginned-up fake story from the Daily Mail, you’re contributing to a problem that you claim to hate, the disintegration of the integrity of reporting and mass media. You can’t simultaneously decry the poor state of reporting in this country and participate in it, but you are one of the worst people in terms of checking your sources or even, sometimes, having read the article you post.

599 Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2014 8:57:05am

re: #594 Bubblehead II

You own one of these?

Link not working.

600 b.d.  May 21, 2014 8:57:16am

re: #596 Backwoods_Sleuth

All those bees in Delaware yesterday?
Trucker cited after bees escape along I-95

(Note: there’s an autoplay video at the link)

Is it a Class B misdemeanor?

601 ObserverArt  May 21, 2014 8:58:24am

re: #582 NJDhockeyfan

Yes I can but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And I was right once today. See #578.

But you know, if you don’t catch when the clock was right twice a day. Did it ever happen?

With that, time to go do something constructive.

602 Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2014 8:59:06am

Following up, I just checked a couple of other sources and it doesn’t appear my particular vehicle is part of the mass recalls.

603 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 8:59:28am

re: #597 wrenchwench

Same thing you said then.

Did I? I didn’t see that. Oops.

That was not intentional. I didn’t see Malkin’s name anywhere and I don’t read Malkin. Do you think I’m a Malkin bot or something?

604 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 9:00:12am

www-odi.nhtsa.dot.govre: #599 Eclectic Cyborg

Link not working.

See that. Kinda strange that NHTSA doesn’t allow direct links to search results.

605 makeitstop  May 21, 2014 9:00:54am

Can anyone tell me where this ‘tellmenow.com’ web site came from? They have a story up today claiming that Putin is going to reveal information that will prove 9/11 was an inside job - with a hat tip to ‘Mr. Conservative.’

I can’t figure out if the site is the province of wingnuts, dudebros, or a product of the convergence. Weird.

606 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 9:02:44am

re: #605 makeitstop

Can anyone tell me where this ‘tellmenow.com’ web site came from? They have a story up today claiming that Putin is going to reveal information that will prove 9/11 was an inside job - with a hat tip to ‘Mr. Conservative.’

I can’t figure out if the site is the province of wingnuts, dudebros, or a product of the convergence. Weird.

Obviously they are a 9/11 Troofer site. What more do you need to know?

607 lawhawk  May 21, 2014 9:03:12am

re: #605 makeitstop

Can anyone tell me where this ‘tellmenow.com’ web site came from? They have a story up today claiming that Putin is going to reveal information that will prove 9/11 was an inside job - with a hat tip to ‘Mr. Conservative.’

I can’t figure out if the site is the province of wingnuts, dudebros, or a product of the convergence. Weird.

It’s the product of chemtrails, HAARP, fire not melting steel, thermite, and a smattering of derp.

608 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 9:04:58am

re: #606 Pie-onist Overlord

Obviously they are a 9/11 Troofer site. What more do you need to know?

Birther site as well.

609 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 9:05:05am

re: #607 lawhawk

It’s the product of chemtrails, HAARP, fire not melting steel, thermite, and a smattering of derp.

No anti-vax? Must be centrists or something.

610 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 9:05:28am

re: #605 makeitstop

Can anyone tell me where this ‘tellmenow.com’ web site came from? They have a story up today claiming that Putin is going to reveal information that will prove 9/11 was an inside job - with a hat tip to ‘Mr. Conservative.’

I can’t figure out if the site is the province of wingnuts, dudebros, or a product of the convergence. Weird.

I click the About Us button and all it says is ‘Coming soon!’

611 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 9:06:03am

re: #605 makeitstop

whois.net

Registrant Name: Cyrus Massoumi

Okay, that’s weird, because I know that name as the guy who founded ZocDoc.

It looks like just a shitty uncurated media site, not sure how they allow stories to be put up.

612 makeitstop  May 21, 2014 9:06:24am

re: #606 Pie-onist Overlord

Obviously they are a 9/11 Troofer site. What more do you need to know?

That’s true.

But I’ve been seeing it linked pretty often lately in a number of places (I think someone linked to it here yesterday), and I’m wondering why they’re so high-profile all of a sudden.

In addition to the troofer stuff, they have an article up hyping OAS. Just strikes me as strange.

613 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 9:07:21am

re: #612 makeitstop

That’s true.

But I’ve been seeing it linked pretty often lately in a number of places (I think someone linked to it here yesterday), and I’m wondering why they’re so high-profile all of a sudden.

In addition to the troofer stuff, they have an article up hyping OAS. Just strikes me as strange.

Maybe they got a bunch of money from Pierre Omidyar?

614 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 9:09:07am

“Trojan Horse” investigations are now expanding to religious schools as well
Michael Gove calls for further schools investigations after Trojan Horse affair

Education secretary extends focus from allegations of Islamist plot involving state schools in Birmingham to other UK cities

Michael Gove has ordered snap investigations into Muslim schools in several cities around England, widening the focus outside of the so-called Trojan Horse allegations of an Islamist plot involving state schools in Birmingham.

At least five independent Muslim schools in Leicester, Bradford and Luton are said to have been visited by Ofsted inspectors at the request of the Department for Education in recent weeks, raising concerns among Muslim educators that they are being targeted in the wake of the Trojan Horse affair.

The snap inspections of the schools - including the Olive Tree primary school in Luton, which saw a confrontation between Ofsted staff and parents unhappy at the questioning of their children regarding homosexuality - appeared to be triggered by media reports of comments by head teachers or governors at the schools.

An inspection of the Alaqsa primary school in Leicester followed recent media reports of a booklet written 20 years previously by the school’s founder and head teacher, Ibrahim Hewitt, that detailed the punishments under Islamic law for adultery and acts of homosexuality.

615 Mattand  May 21, 2014 9:14:30am

re: #546 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

“We”?

From the “I know which student set the desk on fire, therefore you all get detention” line of thought.

617 b.d.  May 21, 2014 9:18:12am

CRACK JOURNALISM!!! PREPARE ANOTHER PULITZER!!

A source familiar with the situation told The Intercept that the cabinet meeting had indeed taken place, but an official in Mitchell’s office said there would be no comment Tuesday. “You’ll have to call back,” said the official, who did not identify herself.

Calls to the office of the prime minister went unanswered, as did a call to Bahamas Telecommunications Company, the Bahamas’ largest communications provider.

firstlook.org

618 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 9:20:38am

re: #614 Killgore Trout

“Trojan Horse” investigations are now expanding to religious schools as well
Michael Gove calls for further schools investigations after Trojan Horse affair

Education secretary extends focus from allegations of Islamist plot involving state schools in Birmingham to other UK cities

You’re still pushing that?

I wouldn’t want to see any group pushing their particular brand of religion on students when they receive govt funding of any kind. When people want to push any religion, they should pay out of their own pocket and run the school honestly.

But it happens in the US, whether it’s direct indoctrination, or indirect, as in many of the charter schools and disguised as “American” culture.

619 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 9:23:22am

Of course they did.

House GOP leaders formally block pair of immigration measures from getting a vote on a critical defense policy bill - @politico
Read more on politico.com

620 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 9:28:54am

The rightwing is piling on Pres Obama being “weak” about the VA and some calling for Shinseki’s resignation.

Nevermind that this has been ongoing for a long time, even before his first election, and the fact that Republicans have consistently voted against funding for vets, many of whom are now victims of Iraq and Afghanistan with more to come.

And McCain, who should know better, piles on, too. IIRC, Pres Obama has been consistently concerned about changes to the VA and working toward those, only to be thwarted by the GOP.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on VA: ‘While I am glad that after many weeks of refusing to acknowledge this widening scandal, President Obama finally saw fit to speak about it today, but his remarks are wholly insufficient in addressing the fundamental, systemic problems plaguing our veterans’ health care system’ - @SenJohnMcCain
Read more on senate.gov

621 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 9:34:54am
622 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 9:36:39am

This will surely make the rounds today
Spies Fight Obama Push to Downsize Terror War

In 2012, the Obama administration produced a draft National Intelligence Estimate that reached a surprising conclusion: al Qaeda was no longer a direct threat to America. That classified assessment, which has never before been publicly disclosed, was in keeping with the message coming from the White House.

623 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 9:41:23am

re: #603 NJDhockeyfan

That was not intentional. I didn’t see Malkin’s name anywhere and I don’t read Malkin. Do you think I’m a Malkin bot or something?

Did you know Malkin was a founder of Hot Air? Yes, you are an unintentional Malkin bot.

624 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 9:41:27am

re: #534 Pie-onist Overlord

Newest Fox-spawned OUTRAGE!!!!
This guy was arrested for trying to bring guns into Mexico. He claims he never intended to go into Mexico, that he was just driving around near the border and took a wrong turn.
I. CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING.

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Near homeless, military vet, misses last exit on the I-5, calls 911 for help, gets arrested and put in Mexican jail for possessing guns legal for him here.

I have completely missed the funny part.

Edit
Not the first time this has happened either. HT Democratic Underground
Instead, Army Spc. Richard R. Medina Torres steered his 1999 Honda Prelude off Interstate 10, over an international bridge, and into Mexico.

625 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 9:46:17am

New hatchling just checked in.

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626 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 9:47:07am

re: #624 Rightwingconspirator

Near homeless, military vet, misses last exit on the I-5, calls 911 for help, gets arrested and put in Mexican jail for possessing guns legal for him here.

I have completely missed the funny part.

How did he miss the last exit? Are there no signs on the I-5 saying
LAST EXIT BEFORE MEXICO
NO FIREARMS MAY BE BROUGHT INTO MEXICO
We have those signs on the I-94 before the last exit to Canada.

627 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 9:49:11am
“I now believe global warming alarmists are unpatriotic racists knowingly misleading for their own ends. Good night,”
~Pat Sajak

But remember, it’s the progressives who are always race-baiting.

628 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 9:51:50am

Do I, as a citizen, or anyone else, actually need to know everything about what’s done by govt? Or am I supposed to listen to those who blow all of it out of proportion and lie in the process?

Greenwald: Washington Post ‘suppressed’ foreign countries under NSA eavesdropping program

washingtonpost.com

Yet,

“As for the “elsewhere,” Greenwald and The Intercept go there, to a point. Here’s the big reveal of the story: “Documents show that the NSA has been generating intelligence reports from MYSTIC surveillance in the Bahamas, Mexico, Kenya, the Philippines and one other country, which The Intercept is not naming in response to specific, credible concerns that doing so could lead to increased violence. The more expansive full-take recording capability has been deployed in both the Bahamas and the unnamed country.”

So, Godwald & Co do the same as the WAPO, but because he made the decision, and the WAPO did so at the request of the Fed govt, it’s not the same?

It’s one thing to criticize govt, it’s another to actually think you should run its programs, and run them better, with only a fragment of facts.

629 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2014 9:52:57am
630 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 9:53:03am

Legitimate question: Can you really accidently drive into Mexico from California?

631 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 9:54:14am

re: #625 Bubblehead II

New hatchling just checked in.

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FYI, hatchlings are required to bring coffee and doughnuts on their first day.

632 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2014 9:54:56am

re: #631 Dr. Matt

FYI, hatchlings are required to bring coffee and doughnuts on their first day.

The two from earlier this morning just dropped turds.

633 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 9:55:07am

re: #626 Pie-onist Overlord

At night, a small unlit sign says last exit. And no the sign does not include the very long list of things that are not allowed in Mexico. The guy is said to be new to the area. It’s a mistake that has happened before just not with the severe consequences given the guns.

The only weird part I can see is some overblown outrage from the usual places. But that really has nothing to do with his actions, totally out of this guys control.

634 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 9:55:22am

re: #630 Dr. Matt

Legitimate question: Can you really accidently drive into Mexico from California?

Yes.

635 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 9:56:14am

re: #626 Pie-onist Overlord

How did he miss the last exit? Are there no signs on the I-5 saying
LAST EXIT BEFORE MEXICO
NO FIREARMS MAY BE BROUGHT INTO MEXICO
We have those signs on the I-94 before the last exit to Canada.

I looked into the background a bit. It was at night, and he had just arrived in California with all his possessions in his truck. The crossing he went to is the busiest land crossing in the world, and I read that there was construction that made the area confusing. The freeways in California can be challenging. I could have screwed up like that, except I don’t carry guns.

636 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 9:56:40am

B.D. posted:

CRACK JOURNALISM!!! PREPARE ANOTHER PULITZER!!

That is some heckuva job journamalism there. Makes you almost want to reach into your pocket and send them some $$$$ to keep doing more of it. Almost.

637 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 9:57:02am

re: #634 Rightwingconspirator

Yes.

Really? Wow. The few crossings I experienced in Texas were fortress-like and made it very obvious where you were about to go.

638 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 9:58:24am

re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth

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639 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 9:58:25am

re: #637 Dr. Matt

Really? Wow. The few crossings I experienced in Texas were fortress-like and made it very obvious where you were about to go.

A six year old in Yuma, AZ got off the school bus at the wrong stop and ended up in Mexico a few years ago. There’s wide variation between crossings.

640 Stanley Sea  May 21, 2014 9:58:34am

re: #634 Rightwingconspirator

Yes.

Disagree. Not through San Ysidro. Unless you are wasted.

641 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 9:59:14am

re: #633 Rightwingconspirator

At night, a small unlit sign says last exit. And no the sign does not include the very long list of things that are not allowed in Mexico. The guy is said to be new to the area. It’s a mistake that has happened before just not with the severe consequences given the guns.

The only weird part I can see is some overblown outrage from the usual places. But that really has nothing to do with his actions, totally out of this guys control.

They should put up a toll gate like we have at the US/Canada border.
//

642 Bulworth  May 21, 2014 9:59:20am

There has, sadly, been an insuffient supply of coffee and donuts around here these days.

643 Stanley Sea  May 21, 2014 10:00:41am

re: #633 Rightwingconspirator

At night, a small unlit sign says last exit. And no the sign does not include the very long list of things that are not allowed in Mexico. The guy is said to be new to the area. It’s a mistake that has happened before just not with the severe consequences given the guns.

The only weird part I can see is some overblown outrage from the usual places. But that really has nothing to do with his actions, totally out of this guys control.

You go through tight lane barriers and speed bumps. Then through a very narrow manned toll booth.

644 Pie-onist Overlord  May 21, 2014 10:00:46am

re: #635 wrenchwench

I looked into the background a bit. It was at night, and he had just arrived in California with all his possessions in his truck. The crossing he went to is the busiest land crossing in the world, and I read that there was construction that made the area confusing. The freeways in California can be challenging. I could have screwed up like that, except I don’t carry guns.

The freeway ramps around the Ambassador Bridge make it very difficult to proceed directly to Canada, that’s because the Troll wants everyone to stop at the Duty Free store.

645 NJDhockeyfan  May 21, 2014 10:01:01am

re: #637 Dr. Matt

Really? Wow. The few crossings I experienced in Texas were fortress-like and made it very obvious where you were about to go.

One of the news reports said there is road work being done on the US side and some people are missing the last exit. There is no place to turn around after passing the last exit.

646 Dr. Matt  May 21, 2014 10:01:46am

re: #642 Bulworth

There has, sadly, been an insuffient supply of coffee and donuts around here these days.

These new school hatchlings do not respect traditions.

647 wrenchwench  May 21, 2014 10:05:27am

re: #640 Stanley Sea

Disagree. Not through San Ysidro. Unless you are wasted.

If he had just driven straight across from Florida, he could have been pretty wasted.

Also, ‘Florida man.’

648 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2014 10:08:53am

re: #622 Killgore Trout

This will surely make the rounds today
Spies Fight Obama Push to Downsize Terror War

That is not what Pres Obama said a year ago, and it’s not what he’s saying now, either. Priorities have necessarily shifted to other areas as they are needed as well.

“Now, make no mistake, our nation is still threatened by terrorists. From Benghazi to Boston, we have been tragically reminded of that truth. But we have to recognize that the threat has shifted and evolved from the one that came to our shores on 9/11. With a decade of experience now to draw from, this is the moment to ask ourselves hard questions — about the nature of today’s threats and how we should confront them.

“And these questions matter to every American. “

whitehouse.gov

649 Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2014 10:09:52am

re: #643 Stanley Sea

You go through tight lane barriers and speed bumps. Then through a very narrow manned toll booth.

If the guy was from New York, Pennsylvania, or New Jersey he just would have assumed it was construction and a toll road.
//

650 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 10:10:35am

re: #643 Stanley Sea

Yeah that’s right. And it still happens. It’s a numbers game. So much traffic, many years etc.

651 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 10:12:31am

re: #640 Stanley Sea

Disagree. Not through San Ysidro. Unless you are wasted.

Lets remember my objection is that I don’t think it’s funny. It’s a tragedy to wind up in a Mexican jail over a mistake.

652 blueraven  May 21, 2014 10:12:58am

re: #643 Stanley Sea

You go through tight lane barriers and speed bumps. Then through a very narrow manned toll booth.

Also…he lied and said it was his first time in Tijuana . It wasnt

SAN DIEGO.- Andrew Tahmooressi’s story has taken a recent turn, the ongoing investigation reveals that the former marine had visited Tijuana more than once before his arrest at Customs.

New information revealed through several media outlets — among them Zeta newspaper — confirms that Tahmooressi had been to Tijuana at least twice before his April 1 arrest; the data coincides with movement in his bank account. It is assumed that the ex-marine had crossed the border on foot for personal reasons. Some of his acquaintances confirmed this information to authorities investigating the case.

…

Another interesting detail to note are the declarations of Alejandro González Guilbot, chief of Mexican Customs in Tijuana, whose declarations do not coincide with Andrew Tahmooressi’s initial claims. “He never said that he was lost, he never informed us that he was carrying weapons, and he never said that he was a former member of the armed forces,” González stated. The Chief of Customs added that his agents initially detained the vehicle because it was lacking a front license plate, and upon inspecting the vehicle discovered the three loaded weapons — two of which are considered military grade in Mexico — and 400 pieces of ammunition. - See more at: sandiegored.com
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653 Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2014 10:15:00am

re: #512 FemNaziBitch

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pic of Speilberg on twitter sitting in front of a “big kill” —people are freaking out thinking he’s been big game hunting for real.

Yeah, wonder which airlines have round trip excursions to the Land of the Lost?

654 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 10:15:56am

re: #652 blueraven

You might have included this part…

Alejandro Osuna, Andrew Tahmooressi’s lawyer, confirmed the accounts to be true and stated that he had been the one to advise Tahmooressi to stick to the script and not reveal the previous visits, because this could possibly affect the credibility of his declarations. - See more at: sandiegored.com

Still not funny. He effed up big. No denial of that here.

655 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 10:19:51am

re: #654 Rightwingconspirator

If he really didn’t declare that he was carrying weapons, then it goes somewhat beyond a ‘mistake’, doesn’t it?

I mean, turning in would be a mistake, concealing that he had weapons would be a bit beyond that.

656 blueraven  May 21, 2014 10:21:32am

re: #654 Rightwingconspirator

You might have included this part…

Still not funny. He effed up big. No denial of that here.

He lied. Yes, stupid. Maybe all a big mistake but cant see how Mexico is a fault or Obama.

I think what Alouette finds funny is how Fox and co are trying to make this about Obama.

Also, switch the circumstances and see how we would treat someone from Mexico coming across our border with an arsenal in their trunk?

657 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 10:22:07am

re: #643 Stanley Sea

You go through tight lane barriers and speed bumps. Then through a very narrow manned toll booth.

Isn’t that thing manned sometimes, rather than 24/7? I could swear I blew through with a friend that lives in TJ and it was no big deal, struck me that it should be tighter control there.

Looked to me like all the emphasis is about checking people coming in to the US with nary a notice of the traffic the other way on our side.

658 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 10:31:43am

re: #655 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

If he really didn’t declare that he was carrying weapons, then it goes somewhat beyond a ‘mistake’, doesn’t it?

I mean, turning in would be a mistake, concealing that he had weapons would be a bit beyond that.

You may have missed this comment

659 Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2014 10:43:00am

re: #534 Pie-onist Overlord

Newest Fox-spawned OUTRAGE!!!!
This guy was arrested for trying to bring guns into Mexico. He claims he never intended to go into Mexico, that he was just driving around near the border and took a wrong turn.
I. CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING.

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Fucking illegal, gun mule, immigrant.

// Oh, that’s only for this side of the border? Mexico should just shut the fuck up about illegals coming to their country to work selling firearms?

660 Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2014 10:53:01am

re: #600 b.d.

Is it a Class B misdemeanor?

Yeah, caught him in a sting operation

661 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 10:53:35am

re: #659 Eventual Carrion

Fucking illegal, gun mule, immigrant.

// Oh, that’s only for this side of the border? Mexico should just shut the fuck up about illegals coming to their country to work selling firearms?

No actually we should encourage the worst punishment allowed under Mexican law because The Blaze.
///

662 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 10:57:03am

re: #658 Rightwingconspirator

You may have missed this comment

Why would you think I’d missed the comment I was directly replying to?

663 Killgore Trout  May 21, 2014 10:59:59am

re: #648 Justanotherhuman

That is not what Pres Obama said a year ago, and it’s not what he’s saying now, either. Priorities have necessarily shifted to other areas as they are needed as well.

“Now, make no mistake, our nation is still threatened by terrorists. From Benghazi to Boston, we have been tragically reminded of that truth. But we have to recognize that the threat has shifted and evolved from the one that came to our shores on 9/11. With a decade of experience now to draw from, this is the moment to ask ourselves hard questions — about the nature of today’s threats and how we should confront them.

“And these questions matter to every American. “

whitehouse.gov

I would like to see the memo but Beast doesn’t give many details. I’m not expecting Obama’s terrorism policy to be perfect and flawless but there might be some room for improvement.

664 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 11:07:04am

re: #662 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Why would you think I’d missed the comment I was directly replying to?

Well the nature of what I said-He “effed up no denials here” seems to fit “more than a mistake” just fine. I could have just said fucked up I guess.

But lets not quibble over terms. My objection was quite limited, right? I don’t see anything funny about the guys situation.

665 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 11:10:01am

re: #664 Rightwingconspirator

Well the nature of what I said-He “effed up no denials here” seems to fit “more than a mistake” just fine. I could have just said fucked up I guess.

Well, you characterized it as a mistake a few times before, so I’m glad you changed your opinion.

I don’t find anything funny in it, either, but that people are outraged he got arrested by the cops is darkly funny. What’d they expect, they’d pat him on the head and say “everyone transports guns illegally across the border on occasion, no probs” and let him go?

666 blueraven  May 21, 2014 11:13:28am

re: #658 Rightwingconspirator

You may have missed this comment

All that proves is that he lied in the first place, then wanted to change his story and his attorney advised him to STFU about his previous visits.

Look, I have some sympathy for the guy. Seems like he was diagnosed with PTSD. However, it seems he is being treated fairly and the Mexican feds are concerned that he may try to harm his self.

I just don’t see the outrage that FOX and other RW outlets are trying to foment. The fact is, he crossed the border with three firearms and quite a bit of ammo. What do these people think Mexico was supposed to do about that?

667 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 11:28:41am

re: #665 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Well, you characterized it as a mistake a few times before, so I’m glad you changed your opinion.

I don’t find anything funny in it, either,

Thank You. And I don’t defend “they” as in what they expect. From time to time this happens, from a truck of ammunition in Texas to a person with a stray bullet in their luggage.

I think the best thing is to take intent into account. I have near zero understanding of Mexican law or how this will play out. Hopefully seized guns, a travel ban and time served will do.

I did not change my opinion. Mistake, fucked up,effed up all the same to me.

668 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 11:32:12am

BTW the ammunition trucker got a fine, that’s a fair deal.
dallasnews.com

669 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 11:44:20am

re: #667 Rightwingconspirator

Thank You. And I don’t defend “they” as in what they expect. From time to time this happens, from a truck of ammunition in Texas to a person with a stray bullet in their luggage.

I think the best thing is to take intent into account. I have near zero understanding of Mexican law or how this will play out. Hopefully seized guns, a travel ban and time served will do.

I did not change my opinion. Mistake, fucked up,effed up all the same to me.

We have no idea what the intent was. Why do you think we do?

670 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 12:06:06pm

re: #669 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I’m trying to square up “we have no idea” and the numerous statements that he did this in error. Pending more evidence, I’m allowing for the possibility it was as he said crossed by mistake, as in had no intention to enter mexico let alone fire or sell the guns. After all he could do those things right here in the USA.

What I think we do is take intent into account at a couple levels, the prosecutor and then in court. Stricken as irrelevant.

671 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 12:11:37pm

re: #670 Rightwingconspirator

I’m trying to square up “we have no idea” and the numerous statements that he did this in error. Pending more evidence, I’m allowing for the possibility it was as he said crossed by mistake, as in had no intention to enter mexico let alone fire or sell the guns. After all he could do those things right here in the USA.

What I think we do is take intent into account at a couple levels, the prosecutor and then in court. Stricken as irrelevant.

But that’s just his word on it, which you’re apparently just taking at face value. Beyond selling, he might just have wanted to keep his guns with him, and thought he could get away with it going through customs. I don’t know.

672 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 12:26:23pm

re: #671 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

But that’s just his word on it, which you’re apparently just taking at face value. Beyond selling, he might just have wanted to keep his guns with him, and thought he could get away with it going through customs. I don’t know.

If you had said we have no physical evidence or proof, sure. “No idea” really implies far less information than we have. We have one idea clearly presented. We have been shown this is not a unique incident. Maybe it’s a correct idea maybe not. But it is most certainly there.

In your view does the phrase “just taking his word for it” and pointing out this happens from time to time as shown in my links, his attorneys statements, his reported mental state, and family statements really a fair match? I think you have used an inaccurate phrase there.

Above I has said he effed up big, and you saw that as a change in my opinion.

Lastly before I try to move on to something more interesting I will remind you of my original objection. It’s not funny. Hardly an endorsement of the man or a diminishing of his mistake.

673 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 12:32:54pm

re: #672 Rightwingconspirator

If you had said we have no physical evidence or proof, sure. “No idea” really implies far less information than we have. We have one idea clearly presented. We have been shown this is not a unique incident. Maybe it’s a correct idea maybe not. But it is most certainly there.

We have no idea, because we don’t know if it’s a correct idea or not.

In your view does the phrase “just taking his word for it” and pointing out this happens from time to time as shown in my links, his attorneys statements, his reported mental state, and family statements really a fair match? I think you have used an inaccurate phrase there.

Yes, I think just taking his word for it is a fair match. I would hardly expect his family to throw him under the bus.

Lastly before I try to move on to something more interesting I will remind you of my original objection. It’s not funny. Hardly an endorsement of the man or a diminishing of his mistake.

It is funny that Fox finds the situation outrageous, and that for some reason they think Obama should intervene.

674 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 2:18:55pm

re: #673 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

We have no idea, because we don’t know if it’s a correct idea or not.

Yes, I think just taking his word for it is a fair match. I would hardly expect his family to throw him under the bus.

It is funny that Fox finds the situation outrageous, and that for some reason they think Obama should intervene.

The outrage is misplaced. agreed. Draws unnecessary critics too

675 Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2014 2:29:14pm

re: #673 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Given his b/g I find an inclination to believe him for conversational purposes reasonable. Pending contrary evidence.

676 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 21, 2014 2:39:58pm

re: #675 Rightwingconspirator

Given his b/g I find an inclination to believe him for conversational purposes reasonable. Pending contrary evidence.

What about his background?

677 William Barnett-Lewis  May 21, 2014 3:58:22pm

re: #372 Justanotherhuman

Get a pair of made for the purpose, comfortable, skid resistant short boots. They (skid resistant) were required at BK for my grandson (although the let him slide for a while). He still wears them even as he’s not there and is ordering another pair. And he has short, wide feet that are hard to fit. These are the ones he ordered—they hold up very well. shoesforcrews.com

Dead thread but thanks for the link. I got some cheapies at Walfart that fulfill the requirement but I need better ones. Even census enumeration was easier on my feet than standing there.


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