So Donald Trump Just Invited a Hamas Supporter to the Debate Tomorrow Night

This is Trump’s response to Obama calling him a whiner
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Donald Trump has reportedly invited President Obama’s estranged half-brother to the debate tomorrow.

As an attack on the sitting president, the campaign has invited the half-brother of President Barack Obama, Malik, to attend the debate as Trump’s guest, ABC News has confirmed. The news was first reported by the New York Post.

Malik Obama is a supporter of Hamas, by the way. Above is a photo of Malik at a 2010 conference in Yemen, wearing a Hamas scarf with the slogans, “Jerusalem is ours - we are coming,” and “From the river to the sea.”

In 2010 when this photo surfaced, right wing media tried their best to smear Obama with his half-brother’s endorsement of Hamas, ignoring the fact that Malik had openly declared his enmity with Barack.

Now the Republican Party’s candidate for president is inviting Hamas supporter Malik Obama to his final debate with Hillary Clinton.

Just sayin’.

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729 comments

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:01:51pm

This is surely going to rattle Pres. Obama during the debate…wait, what?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:02:46pm

I am sure that Baby Whiplash will somehow twist this as “proof” that HURR HURR OBAMA IS A FRIEND OF HAMAS!!!11!!!!1!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:04:08pm

Toted over from the previous barge…

I’m inviting all my fellow New Yorkers and Tri-Staters to join me in hanging ten in front of Trump Tower, 725 5th Avenue, Borough of Manhattan, on November 10th.

Pitchforks, torches, shirts and ties not required.

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:04:09pm

See, Trump invited Obama’s Hamas-loving half-brother to show the world just what kind of lousy half-brother Obama is responsible for!!!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:04:45pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

I am sure that Baby Whiplash will somehow twist this as “proof” that HURR HURR OBAMA IS A FRIEND OF HAMAS!!!11!!!!1!!!

Right wing media tried to do that in 2010 when this photo surfaced. Now the GOP candidate is inviting this guy to his debate.

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Scout  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:07:42pm

I mailed off my absentee ballot last week. (Snohomish County, Washington state)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:08:40pm

Who in the utter pluperfect blue fuck is “Stephanie M. Jason”?

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:10:35pm

re: #6 Scout

I mailed off my absentee ballot last week. (Snohomish County, Washington state)

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What if after the 3rd debate, you’re convinced Trump is the man for the job?
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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:10:49pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

This is surely going to rattle Pres. Obama during the debate…wait, what?

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Kragar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:12:49pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:17:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:18:20pm
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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:18:28pm

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:18:28pm

Orange Julius just can’t help himself:

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:19:55pm

re: #10 Kragar

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Weet  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:23:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:24:57pm

This is creepy AF

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:25:17pm

re: #14 Lidane

Orange Julius just can’t help himself:

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Weet  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:26:15pm

Sorry, I could not stop myself from posting this.

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EPR-radar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:27:00pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

I had to look up Camping on Wikipedia because there are too many loons in America to remember them all. Alas, this rapture-predicting idiot was another disgrace to the engineering profession (BSCE, per Wikipedia).

An engineering background combined with religious zealotry seems to give uniquely poor results.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:27:44pm
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Kragar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:28:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:30:26pm
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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:32:35pm

re: #19 Weet

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Sorry, I could not stop myself from posting this.

You are a horrible person and should feel very bad. I’d put you into a time-out, but I’m too busy LMAO.

RBS

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:32:58pm

re: #16 Weet

Randy Rainbow interviews Melania.

Say what’s on my mind, Melvin…

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ipsos  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:34:42pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

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This has been a bad habit of hers for a while now. It’s to the point where I can usually join the show 10 minutes in and not feel that I’ve missed anything of substance.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:35:26pm

Flickr

Shot on our Iceland-Ring-Road-Trip in August ‘16 at a viewpoint near Siglufjörður.

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Kragar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:36:26pm
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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:37:45pm

Probably this good news has already been noted elsewhere on LGF, but ISIS fighters were just booted out of Dabiq, Syria, by a couple of thousand rebels armed and supported by the Turks. Since Dabiq is a crappy little burg of about three thousand souls near the Turkish border, this event wouldn’t seem to matter much. Except, as many of you may know, in ISIS theory Dabiq was supposed to have been the site of an Armageddon-type final battle between the caliphate and Western armies, with ISIS of course winning big. So now ISIS is trying to walk back these claims, insisting that this wasn’t the real battle of Dabiq. Who knows how they’ll try to spin it when Mosul falls. Doesn’t sound like they’re exactly raging uncontested across the whole region, as the Trumpster continually bellows.

To any Muslims here who might know, is it true that the battle of Dabiq is discussed in hadith as leading to the defeat of the Antichrist and, ultimately, the second coming of Christ, or is this just Internet nonsense? I like to think I’m at least slightly better informed about Islam than the average American, but maybe not.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:38:31pm

re: #16 Weet

Randy Rainbow interviews Melania.

Melania looks a lot like Caitlyn Jenner.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:39:07pm

re: #28 Kragar

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Fun to recall that he immediately had regrets, wanted to replace Pence.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:39:17pm

Watching the evening news on ABC, NBC, and CBS. The “liberal media” is still using the “both candidates are equally scandalous” coverage.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:42:48pm

Going back to old threads and seeing that insane tweets have turned to text is fun.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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EPR-radar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:42:49pm

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

Watching the evening news on ABC, NBC, and CBS. The “liberal media” is still using the “both candidates are equally scandalous” coverage.

I’m glad I never watch that garbage. In what conceivable universe is mostly made-up bullshit about Clinton’s emails and foundation even remotely comparable to Trump’s innumerable disqualifications?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:43:08pm

Wow what a surprise! Clinton email “scandal” is a big nothingburger.

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:44:35pm
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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:46:24pm

On the lighter side, a batch of our divers (and both the shop owners) are down on Roatian Island in Honduras on a dive trip. One of the divers (Nina) has a reputation as a “Turtle Whistler”, where ever she dives, the turtles come over. This is a pic she got today. I hate her with a burning passion. /jk

Honduran Turtle (probably coming to vote illegally)
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:46:37pm

re: #28 Kragar

Simple: He’s the only one who didn’t say no.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:49:49pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Wow what a surprise! Clinton email “scandal” is a big nothingburger.

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“I wanna discuss this email. Does it have to be classified?”
“Let me check with my buddies…they say yes.”
“Alright, thank for checking.”
“Hey, while I’ve got you on the phone, can we discuss this proposal we submitted to put our agents in Iraq?”
“I’ll see if I can get it reviewed again.”
“Cool, thanks, talk to you later.”

“SCANDAL!!!!”

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:51:43pm

“Jeepers creepers sheeple, global warming is a myth!”

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EPR-radar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:52:40pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Simple: He’s the only one who didn’t say no.

I like to imagine that Trump ran the VP selection process as if it were a pageant. The contestants would not have competed based on physical appearance, but on their ability to cringe and scrape before GodEmperor Trump.

The worthy winner of this contest was Mike Pence, Christian Pharisee Power Bottom (h/t Driftglass).

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:54:27pm

re: #41 EPR-radar

I like to imagine that Trump ran the VP selection process as if it were a pageant. The contestants would not have competed based on physical appearance, but on their ability to cringe and scrape before GodEmperor Trump.

The worthy winner of this contest was Mike Pence, Christian Pharisee Power Bottom (h/t Driftglass).

I understand Christie did win Mr. Congeniality.

RBS

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:55:07pm

re: #41 EPR-radar

I suspect Chris Christie also made a valiant effort.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:55:08pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:55:31pm

Darn you RBS! :p

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:57:53pm

re: #8 No Country For Old Haters

What if after the 3rd debate, you’re convinced Trump is the man for the job?
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Which job?

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:58:11pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:58:12pm

re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg

I suspect Chris Christie also made a valiant effort.

Indeed. I’d really like to see video of the ‘sucking golf balls through garden hoses’ part of Trump’s VP selection process hit the internet. Such talent should be made public.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 6:58:23pm

For. Fucks. Sake.

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EPR-radar  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:01:57pm

re: #47 Lidane

Interesting. Most of the these poll results suggest a hard 30% floor for the deplorables (e.g., the nuclear weapons question). However immigration is the outlier, with only 18% going for the deplorable option.

That’s a real surprise for me, assuming these numbers from Fox are legit.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:02:36pm
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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:03:45pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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Almost as good as the Moron Label… ;)

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:04:02pm
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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:05:35pm

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

Which job?

Me and Ted Bessell will see ourselves out…

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Weaselone  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:06:22pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

For. Fucks. Sake.

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Makes him look guilty. Doesn’t seem like the smart move unless he actually is.

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:07:26pm

Wharton students disown Trump.

Donald attended the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania during his college years. He spent two years there before graduating from U Penn in 1968. Since then, he’s bragged about it extensively to anyone who would listen.

Given the infamy he’s gained for himself in the recent past, you can imagine how the Wharton School must feel about the fact he won’t stop reminding the world that he went there. It isn’t a usual move for a school to speak ill of its graduates for obvious reasons, but in Donald’s case they’ve made an exception.

Current and former students along with school faculty recently released a statement regarding Wharton’s most infamous alumnus. To say it isn’t charitable would be putting it mildly.

Co-authors of the letter spoke to NBC News regarding the release of the statement. “It was important for us to speak out against Trump because, as we have seen in many moments throughout history, silence is an act of complicity.”

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:07:47pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:08:49pm

re: #37 Reality Based Steve

On the lighter side, a batch of our divers (and both the shop owners) are down on Roatian Island in Honduras on a dive trip. One of the divers (Nina) has a reputation as a “Turtle Whistler”, where ever she dives, the turtles come over. This is a pic she got today. I hate her with a burning passion. /jk

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That is a beautiful creature. Spectacular.

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Interesting Times  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:09:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:09:05pm
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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:10:40pm

A note from Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, or as the MSM likes to think of him, Professor Buzzkill:

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:10:59pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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When Howard Stern thinks you’re offensive…

RBS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:11:12pm

re: #59 Interesting Times

She could say to create a drinking game, but hospitals would be full in 2 days.

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:12:54pm

re: #36 Lidane

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:13:04pm

re: #37 Reality Based Steve

WALLPAPER!

:)

I’m a nut for turtles of all kinds. Thanks for posting this.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:13:06pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

Actually, this makes sense.

Chuck Todd, did not finish college. There are others too.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:13:51pm

re: #62 Reality Based Steve

Trump will probably dismiss Stern as a Clinton supporter.

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:16:30pm

I just saw the Clinton spot with the guy who used to be on the nuclear launch team.

Just popping up during regular old programming, that is one damned powerful ad.

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:16:39pm

re: #65 William Lewis

WALLPAPER!

:)

I’m a nut for turtles of all kinds. Thanks for posting this.

I don’t know what she took it with, probably her Iphone in a dive housing. (She’s a top level engineer for them, works in the security field). I’ll get the original when she gets back and send it to you if you want.

RBS

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:17:40pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:18:23pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

A note from Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, or as the MSM likes to think of him, Professor Buzzkill:

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We can look forward to weeks of breathless “How will Hillary win over Trump supporters?” articles from the pundits, ignoring that most Trump supporters would sooner slit their wrists than support another Clinton presidency.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:18:37pm
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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:18:41pm

re: #69 Reality Based Steve

I don’t know what she took it with, probably her Iphone in a dive housing. (She’s a top level engineer for them, works in the security field). I’ll get the original when she gets back and send it to you if you want.

RBS

I would appreciate it. Let me know here & I’ll light up my email for you.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:18:47pm
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Brian J.  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:19:28pm

No. Even I can’t believe this state might be competitive.

idahopoliticsweekly.com

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:19:49pm

re: #67 Patricia Kayden

Trump will probably dismiss Stern as a Clinton supporter.

I love the way that the RWNJs, when one of their own manages to say something that isn’t face-palmingly stupid will resort to: “so and so is Democratic MOLE, who has been biding their time to come out at this moment”.

Yea, Young Democrats is just like the KGB, grooming sleeper agents, positioning them into positions in the GOP, and then activating them when needed.

Hell, our local Democratic machine can’t even agree on what type of pizza to order.

RBS

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:20:09pm

re: #72 Eric The Fruit Bat

Larry Flynt has put up a Million dollar bounty for any Trump sex tapes.

If I had such a thing, I’d throw it in Mt. Doom with the One Ring. I’m not sure which would be more dangerous to a person’s sanity…

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:20:28pm

re: #72 Eric The Fruit Bat

Larry Flynt has put up a Million dollar bounty for any Trump sex tapes.

Ya gotta pay me more than that if you want me to watch them…

RBS

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:20:44pm

I sincerely apologize to all boxes of rocks I’ve insulted over the years with demeaning analogies. Please forgive me.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:21:26pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Huge Stern fan here. He has been a life long democrat. He used DT, because thats what his fans want. Other than Stern’s divorce, Stern is nothing like trump. Stern is a performer, and a good person off the air. Trump is a known despicable person.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:22:44pm

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:23:20pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

A note from Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, or as the MSM likes to think of him, Professor Buzzkill:

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One other thing about this graph: Every pundit who wondered aloud “How will Hillary win over Sanders supporters?!” can now go fornicate with themselves.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:23:48pm

Caitlyn is more natural looking IMO

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Great White Snark  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:25:52pm

re: #77 William Lewis

If I had such a thing, I’d throw it in Mt. Doom with the One Ring. I’m not sure which would be more dangerous to a person’s sanity…

There is not enough brain bleach in all the world…

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majii  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:26:12pm

re: #29 whitebeach

Dabiq.

Dabiq holds religious significance for IS because of an eighth-century, end-of-times Sunni prophecy predicting it will be the site of an apocalyptic showdown between Islam and Christianity.

Syrian rebel fighters pushed ISIS militants out of the northern Syrian town of Dabiq on Sunday, forcing the extremist group to give up ground that is central to its propaganda and apocalyptic ideology.

“The Daesh myth of their great battle in Dabiq is finished”, he told Reuters, using a pejorative name for Islamic State.
viveremilano.biz

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:27:02pm

re: #76 Reality Based Steve

… Hell, our local Democratic machine can’t even agree on what type of pizza to order.

RBS

No pineapple.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:27:09pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Whoa …

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allegro  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:28:16pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Caitlyn is more natural looking IMO

She left her lips alone. Melania’s lip filler makes her look like my fish.

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:28:24pm

“We do share a concern” with Trump, Texas GOP Chairman Tom Mechler said Tuesday. “We know it’s out there and we know it’s massive.
……
The spectre of voter fraud has factored prominently in Texas politics for years, raised largely by Republicans who have won virtually every statewide election for almost two decades.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:28:41pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

Never seen them in the same room together. Hmmmmmm…

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:29:33pm

re: #72 Eric The Fruit Bat

Larry Flynt has put up a Million dollar bounty for any Trump sex tapes.

😲 Oh. My. God. No. NoNoNO. NOPE!

Lalalalalalala. Kill me if something that fucking ghastly hits the web.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:30:16pm

The GOP is committed to political violence by using the state to keep people from voting.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:30:21pm

Retweeted by David Frum! That must have been painful.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:31:04pm
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Dr. Lexus  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:32:26pm

There is no voter fraud, conservatives hate democracy. I would consider it an honor to goad a conservative to hit me at a rally.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:32:42pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Caitlyn is more natural looking IMO

Thought it was Courteney Cox for a second there….

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:34:32pm

re: #75 Brian J.

No. Even I can’t believe this state might be competitive.

idahopoliticsweekly.com

Related:

I’m not nearly that optimistic. There are too many rednecks that reflexively vote (R) in Texas for me to believe that Hillary’s in a statistical tie here.

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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:35:51pm

re: #91 MsJ

😲 Oh. My. God. No. NoNoNO. NOPE!

Lalalalalalala. Kill me if something that fucking ghastly hits the web.

Except, I dunno, maybe we’re being too quick to pass up an easy million here. I mean, with the Donald, couldn’t “sex tape” be plain old duct tape?

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:36:31pm

Dr. Ben Carson, extraordinary surrogate for The Donald™.

Ben Carson, World’s Worst Surrogate

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:37:30pm

re: #98 whitebeach

Except, I dunno, maybe we’re being too quick to pass up an easy million here. I mean, with the Donald, couldn’t “sex tape” be plain old duct tape?

Duct tape: How to keep them inflated when you can’t find your patch kit.

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:37:48pm
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allegro  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:37:49pm

re: #97 Lidane

Related:

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I’m not nearly that optimistic. There are too many rednecks that reflexively vote (R) in Texas for me to believe that Hillary’s in a statistical tie here.

There are also a whole lot of minorities and other left leaners who have never really bothered to vote because they figured it was a waste of time.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:38:13pm

re: #89 jaunte

Meanwhile, at Project Tic-Toc headquarters…

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danarchy  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:38:47pm

re: #97 Lidane

Related:

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I’m not nearly that optimistic. There are too many rednecks that reflexively vote (R) in Texas for me to believe that Hillary’s in a statistical tie here.

Where is the other 16%? There can’t be that many undecideds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:41:19pm

NO MORE POLITE HANDSHAKES

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:41:25pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:41:44pm

re: #102 allegro

There are also a whole lot of minorities and other left leaners who have never really bothered to vote because they figured it was a waste of time.

We didn’t vote because it wouldn’t make a difference… -_-
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jaunte  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:42:28pm

“Some 28% of Texas eligible voters are Hispanic”
pewhispanic.org

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:44:04pm

Head honcho of the Texas Tribune:

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allegro  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:44:11pm

re: #106 jaunte

re: #107 Interesting Times

Like that.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:44:46pm

When the Rage Furby started bringing up Malik Obama I started waiting for this day to come, because I remembered the World Net Daily articles trying to smear Obama with Malik’s Hamas connection.

So nice when a plan comes together.

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:46:09pm
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whitebeach  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:47:09pm

re: #104 danarchy

Where is the other 16%? There can’t be that many undecideds.

Illegulz, dude.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:50:04pm

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

NO MORE POLITE HANDSHAKES

22 days, 1 hour and 10 minutes until the day after the election, and not a moment too soon.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:50:20pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

When the Rage Furby started bringing up Malik Obama I started waiting for this day to come, because I remembered the World Net Daily articles trying to smear Obama with Malik’s Hamas connection.

So nice when a plan comes together.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:52:54pm

How incredible would it be if Hillary Clinton wins both Arizona and Texas?

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Great White Snark  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:53:02pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

re: #115 teleskiguy

A-team Hannibal

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:53:03pm

re: #114 De Kolta Chair

22 days, 1 hour and 10 minutes until the day after the election, and not a moment too soon.

It’ll be called early for Hillary on the 8th.

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Dragonomics  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:54:21pm

re: #91 MsJ

There will be no sex tape. Trump doesn’t have sex for pleasure. He has gas huffing Dennis Hopper Blue Velvet rapid humps, which only humiliate him and sometimes leads to the conception of awful offspring. Nobody would want a video of that. Not even Trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:54:47pm

OK, I’m very skeptical of this:

Scientists Accidentally Discover Efficient Process to Turn CO2 Into Ethanol

Taking their word that it works, where does the energy come from? Wouldn’t it take at least as much as you got burning the fuel in the first place?

(Via Balloon Juice.)

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:55:06pm

Heh.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:55:07pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

How incredible would it be if Hillary Clinton wins both Arizona and Texas?

I was two years old when Reagan blew out Dukakis, so I don’t remember that. It’d be nice to see that kind of a result this year.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:56:53pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:58:03pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

How incredible would it be if Hillary Clinton wins both Arizona and Texas?

AZ is looking solider all the time. Texas? I dunno. My Mom was a pretty liberal Yellow-Dog Democrat from Texas, so just in her memory, I’d love it to happen as a woman is being elected President. I doubt if you’d want to listen to her opinion of the current state of Texas, if she’d lived to see it. (Died 1989).

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 7:58:57pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

How incredible would it be if Hillary Clinton wins both Arizona and Texas?

I would legitimately break something laughing if Hillary pulled off the impossible and won Texas.

I won’t hold my breath (see: the metric fuckton of rednecks that vote (R) around here) that it would happen, but if it did, that would be amazing. SO many people would be beside themselves. My FB feed would be guaranteed to have lots of meltdowns.

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danarchy  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:00:42pm

re: #121 Lidane

Heh.

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Can you imagine the UFO sightings if that thing broke loose from it’s moorings.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:01:00pm

re: #124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That sucks that your moms just barely missed Ann Richards as governor of Texas.

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Great White Snark  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:01:07pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:01:54pm

My mother, life-long Democrat, would be so proud at the way things are looking. Her parents were born about 1890, so I’m not sure they would have been comfortable with a woman as President, but all of them (and even my conventional Republican father) would have been appalled at DT.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:04:32pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:06:01pm

I only knew two of my grandparents, mom’s mom and dad’s dad. Mom’s dad died of lung cancer a decade before I was born, dad’s mom died of lung cancer seven years before I was born. I knew grandma and grandpa pretty well, and I can safely assume grandma would have voted for Hillary and grandpa would have voted for Trump.

Families are fucking weird.

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Varek Raith  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:07:05pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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Woodbridge?
I thought I smelled something foul.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:07:45pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

How incredible would it be if Hillary Clinton wins both Arizona and Texas?

If that happened, there would be mass hysteria among conservatives. The fact that it’s this close has gotta be causing a massive amount of heartburn at GOP HQ.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:08:15pm

re: #120 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, I’m very skeptical of this:

Scientists Accidentally Discover Efficient Process to Turn CO2 Into Ethanol

Taking their word that it works, where does the energy come from? Wouldn’t it take at least as much as you got burning the fuel in the first place?

(Via Balloon Juice.)

This is for real. We had this guy give a talk to us gullible Alabamians Sept 15. Practical? We will see.

The trick is like pumping water uphill if you have excess energy, to use later as stored energy.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:10:22pm

Major league trolling going on in the local papers…. Texas wingnuts are pissed. Joy!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:13:13pm
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jeffreyw  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:13:39pm

re: #65 William Lewis

WALLPAPER!

:)

I’m a nut for turtles of all kinds. Thanks for posting this.

Imgur


Pisses me off farking sea turtles get all the love. I’m a turtle too! I can’t get no respect?

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fern01  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:14:47pm

Not sure many of the supporters of the stubby fingered yellow guy would approve of his debate invitee. Something about the guest that is different to most of that guy’s supporters. Trying to work out exactly what that would be.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:15:15pm

re: #135 Dave In Austin

Major league trolling going on in the local papers…. Texas wingnuts are pissed. Joy!

You don’t suppose the Texas GOP’s gerrymander that they had to have Democratic legislators arrested to force a quorum to pass might blow up in their faces? If it did, and Texas got a non-partisan commission like California, the national GOP is done for.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:17:42pm

:)

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:18:14pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Methinks Chucky censored his wee furby self, and would prefer to display something like this:

Why does Charles C. Johnson hate Charles C. Johnson???

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:18:33pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Simple: He’s the only one who didn’t say no.

Since when did someone saying “no” matter to Trump?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:21:13pm

re: #103 De Kolta Chair

Meanwhile, at Project Tic-Toc headquarters…

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I wish SyFy or somebody would run Time Tunnel again. Why? No reason….

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mmmirele  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:22:31pm

*blink* I maxed out my contribution to the Clinton campaign. I didn’t realize I’d given *quite* that much, but given my anxiety level over the possibility Trump might win, I’m not surprised.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:23:58pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

How incredible would it be if Hillary Clinton wins both Arizona and Texas?

It could happen. For one thing Hillary is only now beginning to spend heavily on media in Texas.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:24:55pm

I think I’ll never get over how Access Hollywood appears to be the thing that stopped Trump and changed the tide for the free world.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:25:22pm

re: #137 jeffreyw

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Pisses me off farking sea turtles get all the love. I’m a turtle too! I can’t get no respect?

Love that guy too. Looks like an eastern box turtle?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:25:34pm

A wee bit frosty outside this morning

80s the past couple days with the overnight lows in the 60s. And yet this past Saturday I was taking pictures like this less than 200 miles west of Philly. (Though it is much more “autumn” there than here.)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:27:13pm

Did someone call for some turtles?

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BlueGrl21  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:27:19pm

re: #135 Dave In Austin

Major league trolling going on in the local papers…. Texas wingnuts are pissed. Joy!

For the Lizards who are not from around these parts, trust me, Texas is in play. I’m in the same Houston suburb that inflicted Tom DeLay on this country and I do not know a single Republican woman that is voting for Trump. They’d rather sit out or vote Johnson if they won’t vote Hillary. And these wealthy suburban women are PISSED, PISSED at the Republican Party.

I’ve never seen anything like it. A die-hard retiree Republican woman I’ve known for years is voting Dem this election. Her husband is a Trump supporter. She told me, “I told that old sumabitch that his world is dead, tough shit, suck it up. I’m voting for Hillary.”

“How’d that go over?”

“Hell if I know. I had to get to my water aerobics.”

Texas is in play.

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:27:41pm

re: #148 Feline Fearless Leader

Beautiful! (We were 90 yesterday, 80 today, 70 tomorrow.) Trees are finally really showing color.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:29:03pm

re: #150 BlueGrl21

I am in the Dallas Metro, and while I am quite alone, which has been causing a significant decline in my mental health, I have noticed how few Trump Signs there are around.

Not only that, but I actually have come across streets in Plano that have Hillary everywhere.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:29:07pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

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:)

The presidency has aged the crap out of that man.

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:29:25pm

re: #144 mmmirele

*blink* I maxed out my contribution to the Clinton campaign. I didn’t realize I’d given *quite* that much, but given my anxiety level over the possibility Trump might win, I’m not surprised.

The Priorities PAC does fantastic work and they’re pivoting to downstream races in competitive races. Just sayin’. 😎

(Someone help me with their full name. The guys who do the great videos.)

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Great White Snark  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:29:59pm

Hot day at work.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:30:23pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

The presidency has aged the crap out of that man.

With all the shit he’s had to deal with, I’m not particularly surprised.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:30:33pm

re: #151 retired cynic

Beautiful! (We were 90 yesterday, 80 today, 70 tomorrow.) Trees are finally really showing color.

Probably the best autumn picture from the trip.

Church in west central PA

Would have to research to find the name and location. It’s a place I saw and stopped to get a picture of on the way to the hunting camp I was staying at over the weekend.

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:30:36pm

re: #146 Maxwell Not So Smart

I think I’ll never get over how Access Hollywood appears to be the thing that stopped Trump and changed the tide for the free world.

Live by Celebrity bullshit, die by Celebrity bullshit.

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jeffreyw  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:31:01pm

re: #147 William Lewis

Box turtle for sure, no expert, me.

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Lidane  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:31:25pm

re: #150 BlueGrl21

For the Lizards who are not from around these parts, trust me, Texas is in play. I’m in the same Houston suburb that inflicted Tom DeLay on this country and I do not know a single Republican woman that is voting for Trump. They’d rather sit out or vote Johnson if they won’t vote Hillary. And these wealthy suburban women are PISSED, PISSED at the Republican Party.

I’ve never seen anything like it. A die-hard retiree Republican woman I’ve known for years is voting Dem this election. Her husband is a Trump supporter. She told me, “I told that old sumabitch that his world is dead, tough shit, suck it up. I’m voting for Hillary.”

“How’d that go over?”

“Hell if I know. I had to get to my water aerobics.”

Texas is in play.

Hang on. Aren’t you saddled with that goober Pete Olson now?

If his district is in play, holy shit. That’s wild. The idea that anyone in Sugar Land is voting Hillary blows my mind.

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Targetpractice  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:31:57pm

re: #146 Maxwell Not So Smart

I think I’ll never get over how Access Hollywood appears to be the thing that stopped Trump and changed the tide for the free world.

It’s like I’ve been saying for days, I’m still amazed how we thought the thing that would bring him down would be his tax returns. Compared to “Grab’em by the pussy,” the NYT story was a fizzle.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:32:03pm

re: #152 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am in the Dallas Metro, and while I am quite alone, which has been causing a significant decline in my mental health, I have noticed how few Trump Signs there are around.

Not only that, but I actually have come across streets in Plano that have Hillary everywhere.

Noticed the same kind of thing. Even at its most intense, Trump’s support in Texas seemed pretty soft; lots of “hold your nose but vote for the bastard anyway” types. Cruz was their guy and they never quite got over the way he was steamrolled in the primaries.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:32:20pm

re: #144 mmmirele

*blink* I maxed out my contribution to the Clinton campaign. I didn’t realize I’d given *quite* that much, but given my anxiety level over the possibility Trump might win, I’m not surprised.

Thank you from those of us who are unable to go the length.

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:32:46pm

re: #157 Feline Fearless Leader

Probably the best autumn picture from the trip. …

There’s some wallpaper!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:34:06pm

re: #143 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’d love to watch The Time Tunnel again. Public library, here I come! ;-)

After a bit of searching: VHS only? WTF NY Public Library?!! WTF Hollywood???!!!

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MsJ  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:34:22pm

re: #159 jeffreyw

Box turtle for sure, no expert, me.

Oh, McConnell is there?

😂

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BlueGrl21  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:34:53pm

re: #152 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am in the Dallas Metro, and while I am quite alone, which has been causing a significant decline in my mental health, I have noticed how few Trump Signs there are around.

Not only that, but I actually have come across streets in Plano that have Hillary everywhere.

I haven’t seen Hillary signs around…that could get a house egged around here…but there are NO Trump signs anywhere. Lots of signs for local sheriff and the Congressional races but not even one for Trump. And I am all over the Houston area and in the suburbs because my husband is a basketball coach and the kids play all over Houston Metro. NOTHING.

It’s amazing.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:34:58pm

re: #160 Lidane

I bet Jaunita will be awesome tomorrow.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:37:05pm

re: #167 BlueGrl21

I saw HRC signs in WilCo today.

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jeffreyw  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:37:43pm

re: #166 MsJ

Oh, McConnell is there?

😂

Like he said, no respect!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:38:27pm

re: #120 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, I’m very skeptical of this:

Scientists Accidentally Discover Efficient Process to Turn CO2 Into Ethanol

Taking their word that it works, where does the energy come from? Wouldn’t it take at least as much as you got burning the fuel in the first place?

(Via Balloon Juice.)

Yes. But there’s no rule that the energy has to come from burning fuel. If renewable resources can be used to power the reaction, the net result could be to remove carbon from the atmosphere. (Although that’s only true if the ethanol is then not burned as fuel.)

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:38:39pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

It’s like I’ve been saying for days, I’m still amazed how we thought the thing that would bring him down would be his tax returns. Compared to “Grab’em by the pussy,” the NYT story was a fizzle.

Of all the things he’s said and done in the last year and a half it was a hot mic from 10 years ago that was the “tipping point”.

As with everything around this madness nothing makes sense.

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Varek Raith  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:39:23pm
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BlueGrl21  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:42:27pm

re: #160 Lidane

Hang on. Aren’t you saddled with that goober Pete Olson now?

If his district is in play, holy shit. That’s wild. The idea that anyone in Sugar Land is voting Hillary blows my mind.

My part of SL went for Obama in both elections. We’re in a heavy African American and immigrant area near Old Sugar Land. The Quail Valley area also went Obama; African American.

The SL population is the most diverse in the country now. Over 60 languages are spoken at my husband’s high school. It’s been a matter of getting people to get out and vote because they never thought it mattered before. They do now.

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:43:46pm

Sugarland is quite diverse:

The racial makeup of the county was 56.96% White (46.21% White Non-Hispanic), 19.85% Black or African American, 0.30% Native American, 11.20% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 9.10% from other races, and 2.56% from two or more races. 21.12% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.
en.wikipedia.org

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allegro  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:47:50pm

re: #167 BlueGrl21

I haven’t seen Hillary signs around…that could get a house egged around here…but there are NO Trump signs anywhere. Lots of signs for local sheriff and the Congressional races but not even one for Trump. And I am all over the Houston area and in the suburbs because my husband is a basketball coach and the kids play all over Houston Metro. NOTHING.

It’s amazing.

I haven’t even seen a single bumper sticker - not only no pro-Trump but no anti-Hillary either. Seriously unusual.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:48:15pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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Gee, I can’t imagine why putting images of a cartoon Trumpfrog brandishing weapons would be a problem. {whistles, walking away}

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BlueGrl21  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:48:50pm

re: #175 jaunte

Sugarland is quite diverse:

Correct. Sugar Land is a perfect example of what could happen across Texas. If non white males finally decide it’s time to vote the state will turn. No one has bothered because the state was so locked down. But now it DOES matter. Sugar Land always had a silent minority majority.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:49:38pm

Signs in Milwaukee proper are few. Kinda off, but our whole election is.

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:50:54pm

re: #179 Dr. Lexus

Signs in Milwaukee proper are few. Kinda off, but our whole election is.

We are usually FULL of signs and bumper stickers for the Republican presidential ticket. Not this year!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:52:40pm
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Great White Snark  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:53:18pm

re: #180 retired cynic

Dare I speak it. It feels like a big win for the Dems and HRC. Way beyond the polls.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:54:11pm

re: #103 De Kolta Chair

Meanwhile, at Project Tic-Toc headquarters…

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Oh, I loved that show! Thought is was so cool to see the Time Tunnel explode!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:55:59pm

re: #167 BlueGrl21

I’ve seen Hillary. Mostly in Plano, but they are definitely out there.

They usually end up being in packs. You will see a group of houses with them. Strength in numbers.

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BeachDem  Oct 18, 2016 • 8:58:18pm

re: #89 jaunte

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That’s like my idiot state rep who was freaked out about “zombie voters” in South Carolina, which has zero Democrats in state office and 1 Dem rep, no senators. And, of course, after an exhaustive 18 month investigation (great use of time and money) they found absolutely nothing.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:03:12pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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BlueGrl21  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:03:48pm

re: #184 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve seen Hillary. Mostly in Plano, but they are definitely out there.

They usually end up being in packs. You will see a group of houses with them. Strength in numbers.

We actually have a good reason for not putting out a sign. Husband teaches AP Government and Economics and we live very close to his school. His students and players know our house. And he is adamant that he will not bring his politics into the classroom and remains steadfastly focused on being neutral and teaching them to think for themselves.

He’s a flaming Democrat and even more liberal than me, but his students and players hardly ever find out until after they graduate and he lets them on his Facebook page. He did get more open about it the past couple of years over Black Lives Matter. Those are our kids and they needed to know how strongly Coach supported them.

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CleverToad  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:06:07pm

re: #182 Great White Snark

Dare I speak it. It feels like a big win for the Dems and HRC. Way beyond the polls.

Bite your tongue and find some wood to knock!
We don’t want to jinx this…

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fern01  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:10:09pm

re: #146 Maxwell Not So Smart

I think I’ll never get over how Access Hollywood appears to be the thing that stopped Trump and changed the tide for the free world.

Of all the things you would expect to bring him down - it took him “talking dirty” - seems having no policies, no ideas of governing, many bankrupt businesses, being the no 1 birther, having the language skills of an 8 year old, knowing ziltch about international events/world leaders/conflict areas - any of these SHOULD make him ineligible - but no - being recorded talking dirty was his downfall - for that the world has to be thankful.

This election is weird.

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KGxvi  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:15:15pm

re: #75 Brian J.

No. Even I can’t believe this state might be competitive.

idahopoliticsweekly.com

McMullin is on the ballot in Idaho, and Mormons make up 23% of the population in Idaho. That might be another state where the Utah effect could play out.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:16:45pm

Rage Furby bragging again…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:20:19pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:20:35pm

Reading through the endless list of propositions …someone save me…

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:20:58pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

He has a one-on-one with the orange cheeto-encrusted fascist? Nah, it’s probably that fuckin’ creep Mike Cernovich.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:22:54pm

re: #143 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I wish SyFy or somebody would run Time Tunnel again. Why? No reason….

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Lee Meriweather is now 81. Here’s a photo of her from 2005.

Image: File:Lee_Meriwether_2005.jpg

I should look so good at that age.

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Kragar  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:23:29pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

His wife is letting Chuck meet the father of her child?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:27:46pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:29:09pm

Tom Llamas does not like the criticisms he got yesterday for his servile treatment of Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:31:12pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:31:35pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:38:25pm

My german shepherd, who loves being outside at night, just belted out his “Let Me In You Fuck!” bark. It’s sleeting out right now, temperature needs to drop another 20° F for it to snow. Dog was right, so I let him in.

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retired cynic  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:43:13pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

My german shepherd, who loves being outside at night, just belted out his “Let Me In You Fuck!” bark. It’s sleeting out right now, temperature needs to drop another 20° F for it to snow. Dog was right, so I let him in.

My wretched old blind spaniel pee’d in the living room a couple of hours ago, and I slipped in it and crashed. I’m way too old for that, dadgummit! Sheesh!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:51:32pm

re: #202 retired cynic

Damn Dog! I curse my dog everyday. And then George Carlin comes to mind:

George Carlin - Dogs

The good dogs are fuckin’ awesome!

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BeachDem  Oct 18, 2016 • 9:54:10pm

Well, we had our countdown to victory party tonight and it was great. More than 50 women—about half of them new faces who joined tonight. Many transplanted northerners who were so thrilled to find that there were Dems in south by dog carolina. Much champagne, great food (a former group president is opening a tea shop next week, so this was like a dry run for her.)

Happy, excited peeps—all ages, all backgrounds; a number of veterans. It was really fun! (We sang Fight Song, but I only had it on my laptop with crappy speakers, so it kin)d of fizzled halfway through.)

But it was an energized, excited bunch of Hillary supporters and a great time.

OK—this is funny. One of my buds couldn’t come because she went to her daughter’s house in Columbia during the hurricane and her daughter wasn’t bringing her back down until this weekend. I said, oh, she just misses her mom and she wants to spend more fun time with you.

Her response:
If only it were fun! (daughter’s name) is moving and has no idea who Abraham Lincoln was!

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:08:56pm

I know, I’ll go to my room now.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:11:21pm

re: #205 Shiplord Kirel

It’s just a post.
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:16:24pm

re: #204 BeachDem

I filled out my ballot tonight and got a lot of joy drawing the line next to Hillary’s name!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:22:17pm

2016— Year of the Clowns

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BeachDem  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:25:56pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I filled out my ballot tonight and got a lot of joy drawing the line next to Hillary’s name!

I was planning on early voting, but I leave for Durham Friday morning for 10 days and have so much prep to do for the job, I just won’t have time, so I guess I’ll have to vote on election day. My voting place is about 4 doors down from my house and is never crowded, so it won’t be a problem. I think the ladies who usually work the polls are secretly Democrats—won’t say anything to get in trouble, but just give off that aura.

I was really excited to vote for Obama and I am equally excited to vote for Hillary.

As an old, I truly didn’t believe that we would have an African American and/or a woman president in my lifetime, and now we’re (hopefully/likely) going to have both.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:26:07pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I filled out my ballot tonight and got a lot of joy drawing the line next to Hillary’s name!

I still haven’t gotten mine yet. )::

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BeachDem  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:27:42pm

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

2016— Year of the Clowns

Don’t you love farce?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:27:59pm

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Reports of Clowns are now from:

The US, Canada, Mexico, the UK, Australia, Germany, New Zealand, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, Chile, Spain, and Brazil.

I somehow don’t think this is a promotional stunt for 2 Clown Horror movies next year. Not across 13 different countries.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:28:25pm

re: #211 Anymouse

I still haven’t gotten mine yet. )::

I’m glad ours came because we leave Saturday morning early and there are a metric fuckton of propositions on the ballot that required consideration.* I read through and made decisions tonight; mr. klys is holding off one more night and filling his out tomorrow, and then we can see about dropping them off at one of the ballot boxes. (Or mailing them, but I’ll likely just drop them in one of the boxes.)

* No, seriously, 17 is stupid. And then 4 local bond measures and the normal slate of local candidates.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:28:42pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:29:21pm

re: #213 Ziggy_TARDIS

The start of this was in Greenville, South Carolina, in early August.

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Scout  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:29:26pm

re: #146 Maxwell Not So Smart

I think I’ll never get over how Access Hollywood appears to be the thing that stopped Trump and changed the tide for the free world.

No question that has been huge, but some people a lot smarter than me are saying the real key event in this campaign was the first debate.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:29:38pm

Of course this is just a publicity stunt, but they wouldn’t take the risk if they weren’t pretty sure:

‘It’s a done deal’: Irish bookie Paddy Power already paying out more than $1 million on bets Clinton would win

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danarchy  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:32:23pm

re: #216 Ziggy_TARDIS

The start of this was in Greenville, South Carolina, in early August.

there were creepy clown sightings in Florida dating back to last year.

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Kragar  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:32:46pm
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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:33:34pm

rawstory.com

Kathy Griffin made a parody video of Hillary Clinton’s video of children viewing Donald Trump commercial, noting “When he goes low, I go lower.” The parody is mostly filled with vulgarities against Donald Trump. (NSFW)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:35:16pm

re: #220 Kragar

That would be 436-102.

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majii  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:36:05pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“I filled out my ballot tonight and got a lot of joy drawing the line next to Hillary’s name!”

I voted in Bibb County, GA, today. There was a steady stream of people who were just as interested in voting early as I was. I was glad to see that many in my county, which is Democratic, were voting early.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:36:11pm

re: #212 BeachDem

Don’t you love farce?

I’m hoping someone hits Trump in the face with a pie. Or at least a spray from a seltzer bottle.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:39:14pm

The Miami Herald endorses Patrick Murphy over Marco Rubio for the US Senate.

miamiherald.com

This newspaper has a long history of supporting U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio’s electoral campaigns, going back to his days as a promising political newcomer from West Miami with a strong measure of personal magnetism and a crowd-pleasing message that served him well as he climbed the political ladder. When he ran an insurgent campaign for the Senate against a sitting Republican governor in 2010, we backed him because we believed, “He has the potential to be the kind of statesman Floridians can be proud to call a native son.”

On occasion, Sen. Rubio lived up to that early promise, never more so than during his freshman year in the U.S. Senate when he led an effort to forge a historic compromise on immigration. It ultimately failed, but the young senator displayed political courage and a willingness to defy his own party. This year, he again broke from the Republican majority by supporting President Obama’s request for $2 billion in emergency funding to fight Zika.

But in many other ways, Sen. Rubio has been a disappointment.

The editorial then goes into those many disappointments.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:40:04pm

re: #220 Kragar

Oopsie, missed Alaska. Actually 439-99.

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:40:09pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

In past winters I’d let my german shepherd sleep outside while it was snowing. He’d wake up hours later just covered in snow and he’d belt out his “Let Me In You Fuck” bark. I’d let him in, and he drags all this fuckin’ snow that gathered on him inside. He’s a menace, and he barks very loud at anything unfamiliar around the house.

Good boy!

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teleskiguy  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:44:40pm

re: #227 teleskiguy

Leo the ‘tude, on a nice rug …
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:47:59pm

Expedition 49 launches to the ISS at 4:05 EDT.

Then the ESA’s Schiaparelli lander will enter Mars’ atmosphere ~10:42. There will be three livestreams from the ESA, first one starting at 9:00.

space.com provides windows for all of these here.

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majii  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:50:09pm

re: #225 Anymouse

“The Miami Herald endorses Patrick Murphy over Marco Rubio for the US Senate.”

Thanks for this info. I read the article and was glad to see the MH call Rubio out for his focus not on serving all Americans but on serving his own interests.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:50:12pm

So, I reviewed the documents that Wikileaks released to the world about the charges against Assange. Sergey had mentioned them earlier.

My executive summary: Assange didn’t do it.

Details: The Todd and Clare website/dating service sounds as bogus as a Nigerian email scam, and the elaborate stories alleging Assange had done any online sexy stuff with an 8-year-old seem as unlikely.

According to Buzzfeed (take with grain of salt), the Bahamian police said there was a complaint called in, but no one followed up on the complaint. Thus there were no formal charges filed.

The breach of contract complaint filed in a county court in the UK against Assange seems only to have been a ploy to get the elaborate child-sex story into the public record, as was the lengthy report to the UN Global Compact.

Assange’s attorney denies talking to anyone associated with Todd and Clare . com. An extensive investigation of the dating service, its purported owners, and their whereabouts was fruitless. I did some of the same sleuthing, limited as I am by geography and income, and reached similar conclusions. So, I’m willing to accept Assange’s lawyers’ conclusions as legitimate.

Here’s the Wikileaks statement with corroborating documentation.
wikileaks.org

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:51:15pm

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, it started smelling fishy this morning.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:51:45pm

re: #226 Ziggy_TARDIS

Oopsie, missed Alaska. Actually 439-99.

I’m kind of surprised at Iowa. I’m pretty sure Hillary will carry Iowa in the real world.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:53:54pm

re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t think so.

Iowa is an unusually white state, that is less educated than average. That spells trouble for Clinton.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:54:09pm

re: #232 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yeah, it started smelling fishy this morning.

My BS alarm system went off when I had no luck locating either Todd or Clare Hammond online, and the KATIA project software seems about as likely as a Zero Energy Motor for a car.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:56:41pm

re: #234 Ziggy_TARDIS

I don’t think so.

Iowa is an unusually white state, that is less educated than average. That spells trouble for Clinton.

Iowa is not “unusually white” for the Midwest. Nothing unusual about that at all. Clinton will do well in the cities and university towns, but she may not get many votes from the white farmer demographic.

PS My daughter and her family live in Cedar Rapids.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 10:58:30pm

re: #234 Ziggy_TARDIS

I don’t think so.

Iowa is an unusually white state, that is less educated than average. That spells trouble for Clinton.

Interestingly, Iowa ranks

3rd for high school diplomas
34th for bachelor’s degrees
43rd for advanced degrees

My state is behind on high school diplomas but ahead on college degrees. Maybe that is why one of our electoral districts went for Obama in 2012?

And apparently my moving here with my high school diploma was insufficient to propel my state over Iowa. /s

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:02:06pm

Culinary Union to create “a wall of taco trucks” in front of Donald Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas tomorrow:

buzzfeed.com

The union will be joined by American Bridge, Latino Victory Project, PLAN Action, iAmerica Action, Center for Community Change Action, For Our Future, and 50 immigrant advocacy activists from Los Angeles and feature speakers like Democrat Ruben Kihuen, who is running to represent the 4th Congressional District in the House.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:05:28pm

re: #234 Ziggy_TARDIS

I don’t think so.

Iowa is an unusually white state, that is less educated than average. That spells trouble for Clinton.

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William Lewis  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:05:38pm

I’m going to bet that there are a few fans of both Iron Maiden and Ryan Adams here to appreciate this cover of his…

Times Like These (Foo Fighters) - Ryan Adams - Sydney Opera House 21-7-2015

Eh? That’s not the one I meant… Let me see…

Youtube Video

Ah that’s the one.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:09:23pm

re: #239 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Scroll down to where it shows polls. You will notice that only a small number have her ahead. Silver’s Model ties things together nationally, to one extent or another, but I think he might be misjudging where Iowa sits in regards to politics.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:16:43pm

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What I find interesting about the Todd and Clare Website:

whois.icann.org

a) The registered owner is in Houston
b) The Website made a complaint to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada over its allegations against Wikileaks
c) It was only created in September of 2015
d) Its complaint is through PRWeb (a self-promotion service)
e) Wikileaks is not part of the United Nations Global Compact
unglobalcompact.org
f) There is no announcement on the UN Global Compact page I can find delisting Todd and Clare, though there is a letter on Todd and Clare’s Website that says they are joining the Compact from 2015.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:18:02pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:18:24pm

re: #241 Ziggy_TARDIS

Scroll down to where it shows polls. You will notice that only a small number have her ahead. Silver’s Model ties things together nationally, to one extent or another, but I think he might be misjudging where Iowa sits in regards to politics.

Obama won Iowa in 2008 and 2012. I’m not worried.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:19:14pm

re: #245 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m not worried either, we really, really don’t need Iowa.

I just don’t think we will win it.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:22:54pm

Of course, whois.icann.org frequently doesn’t tell you a whole lot.

For example, my wife’s Website (linked in my name here - cheap plug) has just about zero information about her. Even the service provider for her Website has little information there.

My wife’s Website is a whole lot older than Todd and Clare though.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:24:29pm
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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:26:15pm

re: #246 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m not worried either, we really, really don’t need Iowa.

I just don’t think we will win it.

We need every state we can get. Mr. Trump doesn’t just need to lose by a sliver of electoral votes, he needs to be repudiated by as large a landslide as can be mustered. The GOP needs to be shown that nominating a fascist in the future will destroy their party utterly.

Writing off states is not a good long-term strategy. If my state can cough up an electoral vote for President Obama, why wouldn’t we want to work to get all the electoral votes in Iowa (or in my own in future elections)?

Go back to that Scholastic poll of students shown above. Those are future voters.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:29:40pm

re: #248 goddamnedfrank

In truth, a good many on the right - Laura Ingraham included - are scared shitless at the USA’s changing demographics. That’s why it seems like the sense I pick up when I read their screeds is that they’re definitely feeling that this year’s election is their ‘last chance’. Their rantings are increasingly apocalyptic.

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:35:54pm

Meanwhile, since I can’t figure out how to put Nate Silver’s electoral forecast maps for states here:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

NE-2 is currently polling at 50.3 for Trump and 49.7 for Clinton (a statistical dead heat in Omaha, which means get out the vote efforts over on the other side of the state are vital).

My own district (NE-3) is currently R+33.5, meaning I will remain the only elected Democrat here in any capacity.

Nate Silver gives a whopping 1.3% chance of my district going for Hillary Clinton. I guess I have a bit more get out the vote work to do.

NE-1 (Lincoln) has a 15.2% probability for Mrs. Clinton, so she is doing a bit better there.

Nevertheless, she has campaigned in Nebraska already. Reminding the voters there are Democrats in every state is a useful thing for future elections (it isn’t just about this election, but future elections).

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Anymouse  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:47:46pm

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

In truth, a good many on the right - Laura Ingraham included - are scared shitless at the USA’s changing demographics. That’s why it seems like the sense I pick up when I read their screeds is that they’re definitely feeling that this year’s election is their ‘last chance’. Their rantings are increasingly apocalyptic.

I updated my post #251 with more Nebraska info, if you are inclined to refresh.

The GOP’s post-election reports in both 2008 and 2012 noted the changing demographics of the nation, and suggested the need to address those demographics to remain relevant in future elections.

Instead, being conservatives, they doubled down against change and went further right (I am not sure how much further right you can go now than nominating a fascist talking yam).

The GOP could adopt changes to their approach that might appeal to broader sections of the nation. I don’t see them expanding their appeal unless the elevate more people like my senator Ben Sasse (a never-Trump since February) and fewer people like Gov. John Kasich and Senator Ted Cruz.

In my political discussions with my wife, I become more and more convinced that if the Libertarian Party could focus better, they could replace the GOP nationally. They now have two state senators (one in Iowa, one in Nebraska), and a number of lower offices.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2016 • 11:52:34pm

re: #252 Anymouse

I updated my post #251 with more Nebraska info, if you are inclined to refresh.

The GOP’s post-election reports in both 2008 and 2012 noted the changing demographics of the nation, and suggested the need to address those demographics to remain relevant in future elections.

Instead, being conservatives, they doubled down against change and went further right (I am not sure how much further right you can go now than nominating a fascist talking yam).

The GOP could adopt changes to their approach that might appeal to broader sections of the nation. I don’t see them expanding their appeal unless the elevate more people like my senator Ben Sasse (a never-Trump since February) and fewer people like Gov. John Kasich and Senator Ted Cruz.

In my political discussions with my wife, I become more and more convinced that if the Libertarian Party could focus better, they could replace the GOP nationally. They now have two state senators (one in Iowa, one in Nebraska), and a number of lower offices.

I wonder what the GOP’s 2016 autopsy report is going to look like. They ignored the 2012 autopsy completely and instead went in the totally opposite direction.

The Libertarian Party has been around a long time - if they could manage to try to make themselves more appealing to a broader spectrum of the voting public and perhaps a bit less ideologically dogmatic, yeah…..they could pick up disaffected GOP voters. That would depend on whether the GOP decides to go even further down the path of white identity politics and if they did, I wouldn’t be surprised. The GOP seems to learn nothing.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:02:05am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

I wonder what the GOP’s 2016 autopsy report is going to look like. They ignored the 2012 autopsy completely and instead went in the totally opposite direction.

The Libertarian Party has been around a long time - if they could manage to try to make themselves more appealing to a broader spectrum of the voting public and perhaps a bit less ideologically dogmatic, yeah…..they could pick up disaffected GOP voters. That would depend on whether the GOP decides to go even further down the path of white identity politics and if they did, I wouldn’t be surprised. The GOP seems to learn nothing.

My wife points out when she was a Libertarian Party campaign treasurer for a US House candidate in Colorado, there were a lot of “Libertarian-curious” people who would ask for information (but not many would actually flip from the GOP to the Libertarian Party).

That was several years ago though (before I met her). She does not really know the state of the Libertarian Party’s local get out the vote efforts now (well, I can attest there isn’t one in our district). My slightly-right-of-Trotsky positions rubbed off on her and she abandoned the Libertarian Party in this election for the Democrats.

(She is re-writing our county party’s Website as a volunteer, since it was last updated in 2011.)

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:05:32am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

I wonder what the GOP’s 2016 autopsy report is going to look like.

Possibly a literal autopsy report, if Reince is drinking as heavily as I would be in his stead.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:11:11am

huffingtonpost.com;

Gov. Pat McCrory (R-NC) complained in the gubernatorial debate against Attorney General Roy Cooper (D) last night again that “liberals made me do it” in regard to its HB-2 law, blaming Cooper and Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts.

Roy Cooper countered that, and also brought up the important part of that law that often gets missed: that it discriminates against veterans and prevents communities from raising the minimum wage above the state level.

“I will not accept the radical changes that Roy Cooper and Jennifer Roberts have brought to North Carolina,” said McCrory. “Had that [Charlotte’s ordinance] not been there, I don’t think we would have had a problem. Because I don’t believe in any kind of discrimination.”

Sure, McCrory doesn’t believe in discrimination. And he is one of those Republicans that believe in more local control of government functions (unless those local governments don’t do what they want, then they are all about “big government”)

The debate also included Libertarian Party candidate Lon Cecil, though the article does not say anything about his participation in the debate.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:16:01am

re: #256 Anymouse

The debate also included Libertarian Party candidate Lon Cecil, though the article does not say anything about his participation in the debate.

One assumes he answered all questions with his tongue sticking out, which is the wont of the modern libertarian:

Gary Johnson sticks tongue out while talking during interview - WARNING: SUPER CRINGY

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:24:00am

re: #257 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

One assumes he answered all questions with his tongue sticking out, which is the wont of the modern libertarian:

[Embedded content]

Well, the fact Mr. Cecil got on the debate stage would count as a victory for the Libertarians.

Unlike the Greens, the Libertarians have long been putting efforts in at the bottom of ballots to create a true nationwide party. (I don’t care for the LP’s positions, I just note they are doing the grunt work required to build a credible party.)

As for Gov. Johnson’s rather infantile moment in the video, well, I suppose you could catch any politician like that if you wanted to (but if I were being interviewed that wouldn’t be the time I did something like that, but that’s just me).

For some reason, the Green Party seems to be of the opinion that all they need to do to enact their platform is to:

1) Nominate a candidate
2) Get elected without anyone in Congress to help
3) ???
4) Profit (sustainably in the case of the Greens)

While there are often whackadoodle candidates and members in the Libertarians, they have been taking a much longer view of starting at the bottom and working up. (For the record, my wife is not a whackadoodle, though she is no longer a Libertarian either.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:30:04am

re: #258 Anymouse

I wonder if the Chamber of Commerce types will merge with the Libertarians, leaving the Trumporrhoids to constitute a rump GOP, or if they’ll be the GOP, together with a new “Deplorable” Party. Maybe they’ll even call themselves that!

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:34:02am

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I wonder if the Chamber of Commerce types will merge with the Libertarians, leaving the Trumporrhoids to constitute a rump GOP, or if they’ll be the GOP, together with a new “Deplorable” Party. Maybe they’ll even call themselves that!

The Deplorable Party, using a set of initials also widely used in the porn industry.

In the meantime, I just tried to play my hammered dulcimer for the first time in many months. I got through one song and my left elbow pain went to about eleven and a half.

I guess I am not ready to play yet. I am bummed, I miss playing music (everything from traditional Irish and English music to “Classical Gas”)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:54:02am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

When the Rage Furby started bringing up Malik Obama I started waiting for this day to come, because I remembered the World Net Daily articles trying to smear Obama with Malik’s Hamas connection.

So nice when a plan comes together.

There is only one letter difference between Malik and Malia…

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:56:23am

Another “pillar of the community” rapist gets virtually no time, this time in Montana:

A Glasgow man was sentenced in Valley County District Court on Oct. 4 for one count of felony incest. With a handful of supporters seated behind him in the courtroom, Martin Blake, 40, appeared before Judge John C. McKeon.

Following two hours of testimony and arguments, Judge McKeon sentenced Blake to 30 years in the Montana prison system, with all 30 years suspended.

Blake will be required to meet a number of conditions, including registering as a sex offender.

Moore stated that there is more than one way to hold someone accountable. “I’m not asking that he be given a slap on the wrist,” said Moore. “He did spend 17 days in jail, and he did lose his job.” He also argued that consequences for Blake will be considerable even if he isn’t sent to prison, “For the most part,” Moore said, “he will be on supervision for the rest of his life.” [He was sentenced to thirty days, with credit for the seventeen already served]

In the end, McKeon opted to not follow recommendations set forth in the proposed plea agreement, which would have sent Blake to prison for a minimum of 25 years. When discussing his reasons for suspending the sentence, McKeon referenced the support that Blake had from family, friends, his church and his employer. That support included letters written by the victim’s mother and grandmother asking the court to allow Blake to remain in the community.

Of note, the mother’s letter stated that her two sons should not be deprived of their father. (Apparently raping her twelve-year-old daughter doesn’t count here.)

More at: glasgowcourier.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:56:26am

re: #140 teleskiguy

POTUS &FLOTUS at their first State Dinner and their last State Dinner.

:)

Michelle gets more attractive all the time…I am starting to develop a crush on her.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:56:53am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

48 hour rule is a good idea ;)

Now the question is: who did it and why?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 12:57:10am

re: #143 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I wish SyFy or somebody would run Time Tunnel again. Why? No reason….

‘Cause it was one of my absolute favorite shows as a kid, liked it better than Star Trek back then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:00:55am

re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m kind of surprised at Iowa. I’m pretty sure Hillary will carry Iowa in the real world.

Idiots Out Wandering Around

(actually, my dad was from there)

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:02:16am

re: #140 teleskiguy

I love how the First Lady is wearing her hair *down* in the latter photo. Long hair is beautiful!

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:02:59am

Meanwhile there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of moral scruples at DKos. Falsely claiming someone is a pedophile as long as they’re enemy seems to be a new normal now.

dailykos.com

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ElaineBenis  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:07:52am

I drive I5 fairly often between Seattle and Portland. Just north of the OR-WA border, Vancouver (aka Vantucky, Confederate flag-flying meth capital of Washington) always has numerous clusters of signs for Trump & down-ticket Republicans along side the road.

We drove thru today and down-ticket candidate signs are still there, but the Trump signs were gone.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:08:41am

re: #268 Nyet

Meanwhile there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of moral scruples at DKos. Falsely claiming someone is a pedophile as long as they’re enemy seems to be a new normal now.

dailykos.com

I admit…..I fell for it. Just goes to show that no one is immune to confirmation bias.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:08:59am

re: #269 ElaineBenis

I drive I5 fairly often between Seattle and Portland. Just north of the OR-WA border, Vancouver (aka Vantucky, Confederate flag-flying meth capital of Washington) always has numerous clusters of signs for Trump & down-ticket Republicans along side the road.

We drove thru today and down-ticket candidate signs are still there, but the Trump signs were gone.

This is like watching a coyote chew off three of its own legs and still leave one caught in the trap…

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ElaineBenis  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:11:57am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

LOL yup.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:12:54am

Off-topic: Guns.

One of the persistent arguments I hear around here is “Obama Clinton is going to take our guns. How can you support a gun-grabber as a gun-owner yourself?” (in reference to registering guns or doing background checks)

The real issue is they want a bumper sticker sort of answer to this.

My go-to in the future might be something like this?

Questioner: (see question above)

Me: I don’t support “grabbing guns.” Tell me, do you apply for a permit to hunt Canada geese, ducks, antelope, elk, or deer?

Q: Yes.

Me: The government already knows you own a gun. In all the years government has been issuing hunting licenses, did it ever use that information to grab guns?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:13:52am

re: #272 ElaineBenis

LOL yup.

Yeah, I know that area. I used to live around there. Maybe the Vantuckians have realized that Trump’s going down and it’s too much of an embarrassment to keep his signs up.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:13:58am

re: #270 Dr Lizardo

It’s one thing to fall for something (no one is infallible), and another to double down after the truth has been exposed, like so many in that thread seem to do.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:16:26am

re: #275 Nyet

It’s one thing to fall for something (no one is infallible), and another to double down after the truth has been exposed, like so many in that thread seem to do.

Yeah. Every now and then I glance over at the reddit Trump subthread. Wow. Seriously, it’s a genuine, bona-fide alternate reality. It’s beyond doubling-down.

Speaking of doubling-down, I really am wondering if the GOP is going to continue down their path of white nationalism, or will reality finally intrude? Like I said, I’m really curious as to what the 2016 GOP autopsy is going to look like.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:18:03am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. Every now and then I glance over at the reddit Trump subthread. Wow. Seriously, it’s a genuine, bona-fide alternate reality.

Speaking of doubling-down, I really am wondering if the GOP is going to continue down their path of white nationalism, or will reality finally intrude? Like I said, I’m really curious as to what the 2016 GOP autopsy is going to look like.

Anyone who tries to take on the bigots, xenophobes, misogynists and Aryan nationalists will be accused to betraying their party: somebody will have to go.

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ElaineBenis  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:32:56am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Likely that’s the case.

IIRC, pretty much all of the WA GOPers (except Cathy McMorris Rodgers and certified nutjob Susan Hutchinson) have distanced themselves from Trump.

Rats. Sinking ship.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:33:16am

re: #269 ElaineBenis

I drive I5 fairly often between Seattle and Portland. Just north of the OR-WA border, Vancouver (aka Vantucky, Confederate flag-flying meth capital of Washington) always has numerous clusters of signs for Trump & down-ticket Republicans along side the road.

We drove thru today and down-ticket candidate signs are still there, but the Trump signs were gone.

Though Nate Silver has my district (NE-3) at R+33.5, I’ve noticed that since the Access Hollywood tape came out the ubiquitous Trump/Pence signs all around the area are gone.

I realise that “polling by yard sign” is not a terribly accurate science, and the three or four counties I roam in the Nebraska Panhandle are only a portion of NE-3, but I wonder if polling is capturing this trend?

The only poll I ever got in an election came only a couple days ago, paraphrasing the questions (the pollster said he would ask about various political positions):

Q - Are you voting for Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, or someone else?

Me - Hillary Clinton

Q - (click, dial tone)

That didn’t seem like much of a poll. It sounded more like a push for Donald Trump.

“See? We polled NE-3 and 98% of the respondents approved of my platform”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:58:39am

re: #278 ElaineBenis

Likely that’s the case.

IIRC, pretty much all of the WA GOPers (except Cathy McMorris Rodgers and certified nutjob Susan Hutchinson) have distanced themselves from Trump.

Rats. Sinking ship.

I always remember to leave the “n” out of Hutchison because at one point KING TV News was totally a string of women with letters missing from their names—Jean Enersen, Susan Hutchison,…there was at least one more that’s eluding me.

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EPR-radar  Oct 19, 2016 • 1:58:50am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. Every now and then I glance over at the reddit Trump subthread. Wow. Seriously, it’s a genuine, bona-fide alternate reality. It’s beyond doubling-down.

Speaking of doubling-down, I really am wondering if the GOP is going to continue down their path of white nationalism, or will reality finally intrude? Like I said, I’m really curious as to what the 2016 GOP autopsy is going to look like.

I think the GOP will remain stuck in its present awful state at least through 2020. Admittedly, I’m hard-pressed to think of a significant intermediate position between where Trump is now and straight-up “final solution” talk which I assume (perhaps over-optimistically) would be a show stopper.

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ElaineBenis  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:00:22am

re: #279 Anymouse

Trump signs were there when I last drove thru about 3 weeks ago, so yeah, the groping/assault tape was probably the catalyst for sign removal.

The other thing I find weird is that Trump tv ads have been running regularly in the Seattle market. For sure he has supporters here, but there’s no conceivable way he going to win the state. None. Seems like a stupid, fruitless waste of money.
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:01:59am

re: #283 ElaineBenis

Trump signs were there when I last drove thru about 3 weeks ago, so yeah, the groping/assault tape was probably the catalyst for sign removal.

The other thing I find weird is that Trump tv ads have been running regularly in the Seattle market. For sure he has supporters here, but there’s no conceivable way he going to win the state. None. Seems like a stupid, fruitless waste of money.
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Yeah, that’s throwing money away. If he were spending money on advertising in the Spokane market, sure, I could see that. But Seattle? That’s an exercise in futility.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:03:02am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that’s throwing money away. If he were spending money on advertising in the Spokane market, sure, I could see that. But Seattle? That’s an exercise in futility.

Unless Trump has some media friends in the region he wants to benefit with someone else’s money.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:04:58am

A teenager in the United Kingdom is railing against those who wish to repeal the tampon tax (the idea that feminine hygiene products should not be taxed, in the case of the UK with its value added tax).

He is getting pilloried on Facebook and Twitter for his apparent misunderstanding of women’s biology (which might also be a problem with some of those here who are opposed to repealing sales taxes on those products).

He is quoted in the Daily Mirror:

“If you can’t control your bladder then that’s not the taxpayers’ problem. I don’t urinate everywhere and expect free nappies.

“If you make tampons free where do you draw the line? They’ll be going about petitioning for toilet roll to be free next.

His account is now “protected” according to Twitter. I am not surprised.

The tweet in question is shown at the Daily Mirror, along with more information. According to the Daily Mirror, he has a girlfriend. Perhaps he ought to ask him how this works (he is nineteen years old, according to the article).

mirror.co.uk

“I think women who want an end on tampon tax are just cheapskates.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:06:40am

re: #282 EPR-radar

I think the GOP will remain stuck in its present awful state at least through 2020. Admittedly, I’m hard-pressed to think of a significant intermediate position between where Trump is now and straight-up “final solution” talk which I assume (perhaps over-optimistically) would be a show stopper.

Even assuming that they fail in “taking out” President-Elect Clinton (fingers crossed), the Deplorables are going to cause a lot of trouble after the election. The Left has been discredited for a couple of generations by the events of the Sixties. I know there’s a double standard—they caused what? One death that wasn’t self-inflicted? Whereas RWNJs can do anything and they’re just “lone wolves” with mental-health issues. Is it possible for the Right to make themselves obnoxious enough to the general public to discredit them for a while? I suppose not as long as the MBF media are around to apologize for them.

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ElaineBenis  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:07:31am

re: #281 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

re: #281 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Kathi Goertzen?

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:07:41am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that’s throwing money away. If he were spending money on advertising in the Spokane market, sure, I could see that. But Seattle? That’s an exercise in futility.

Well, we have Hillary Clinton radio ads here (in this R+33.5 district), though my understanding is Mrs. Clinton has a lot more money to use to further her campaign.

Personally, I don’t think advertising here is a waste of money, despite the overwhelming Republican voters. To flip a district, you have to start somewhere.

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Scout  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:09:34am

re: #281 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought Hutchison was on KIRO (Channel 7), but I could be wrong. That was a long time ago.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:10:47am

re: #288 ElaineBenis

Kathi Goertzen?

Oh yeah. No missing letter there. Maybe I’m misremembering, or combining them with another channel. Oh well.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:13:20am

Finished voting.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:14:15am

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke doubled down on his “pitchforks-and-torches” statement about Hillary Clinton winning the election.

He insisted however that it was metaphorical, comparing it to Senator Bernie Sanders’s “political revolution” statements.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Firing back Monday at the “Leftist Big Media” for drawing attention to his tweet, which many social media users and journalists said could be interpreted as inciting violence, Clarke sent another tweet saying he would not allow his detractors to “intimidate and harass” him into dropping the inflammatory phrase.

In a blog post on Patheos and an interview on Fox News, Clarke insisted he was speaking rhetorically and not calling for an actual armed takeover of the U.S. government.

Why does he have a blog at Patheos?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:14:33am

re: #287 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is it possible for the Right to make themselves obnoxious enough to the general public to discredit them for a while? I suppose not as long as the MBF media are around to apologize for them.

Just as the GOP candidates did not want to alienate their “base” by taking on DT (before it was too late to stop him), the media do not want to alienate their target audience by criticizing or refuting their positions.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:14:51am

re: #289 Anymouse

Good point about having to start somewhere. Nobody has been even trying to reach out for years IIUC, so how does one expect things to change? This is also a good show of force. Kudos to the Clinton campaign.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:15:40am

re: #290 Scout

I thought Hutchison was on KIRO (Channel 7), but I could be wrong. That was a long time ago.

My favorite local news memory was when Charlie Royer—political commentator on KOMO—got elected Mayor of Seattle. He decided to try to collect on a lot of outstanding parking tickets by publishing the names of those with more than $100 (?) of unpaid fines, one of whom was his successor, Don McGaffin. McGaffin devoted his segment to a tirade about it, ending with: “You’ll never take me alive, Royer!”

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:16:43am

re: #287 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Even assuming that they fail in “taking out” President-Elect Clinton (fingers crossed), the Deplorables are going to cause a lot of trouble after the election. The Left has been discredited for a couple of generations by the events of the Sixties. I know there’s a double standard—they caused what? One death that wasn’t self-inflicted? Whereas RWNJs can do anything and they’re just “lone wolves” with mental-health issues. Is it possible for the Right to make themselves obnoxious enough to the general public to discredit them for a while? I suppose not as long as the MBF media are around to apologize for them.

Thing is, attacks on media are a major component of fever swamp insurrection scenarios. A few bombed offices and assassinated reporters may be enough to send the MBF into retirement.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:17:14am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:18:30am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

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Looks like a green egg sitting on a slice of ham….

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:20:35am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

Should have gone with a more simple design. This is the city flag of Ostrava, for example:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:22:55am

re: #300 Dr Lizardo

Should have gone with a more simple design. This is the city flag of Ostrava, for example:

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Yep, if you have to spell it out it’s bad art.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:24:50am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

Bad Flash graphics from around the year 2000.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:25:35am

re: #301 goddamnedfrank

Yep, if you have to spell it out it’s bad art.

One city flag from a place not far from here is that of Olomouc:

The SPQO is lifted from the Roman’s SPQR. In this case, Senatus populusque Olomucensis, the Senate and People of Olomouc.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:28:37am

re: #301 goddamnedfrank

Yep, if you have to spell it out it’s bad art.

One of our local suburbs (but is it really a suburb if it’s in a different county?):

A mountain, a lake, and a terrace.

Of course, it’s pronounced “Montlake”—the spelling pronunciation is a shibboleth for tourists.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:30:06am

So, this happened here in the Czech Republic.

Czech police have detained a Russian man wanted in connection with hacking attacks on targets in the United States, the police said, without giving further details.

The arrest was carried out in cooperation with the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation, Czech police said on their website on Tuesday evening. Interpol had issued a so-called Red Notice for the man, seeking his arrest, they added.

The Russian citizen was detained at a Prague hotel. Police said he collapsed and was hospitalized. Czech courts will decide whether he will be extradited, police said.

reuters.com

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:31:28am

re: #304 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One of our local suburbs (but is it really a suburb if it’s in a different county?):

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A mountain, a lake, and a terrace.

Of course, it’s pronounced “Montlake”—the spelling pronunciation is a shibboleth for tourists.

There is a useless resolution I can put in at our next village board meeting: a contest to design a village flag. We’ve been around since 1909 and no one ever thought to design a flag for the village.

Maybe a contest?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:32:33am

re: #300 Dr Lizardo

Should have gone with a more simple design. This is the city flag of Ostrava, for example:

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exploding shrapnel shells have knocked the cavalryman off his horse?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:32:57am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

exploding shrapnel shells have knocked the cavalryman off his horse?

Presumably.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:33:05am

Nre: #303 Dr Lizardo

There is also Senatus Populusque Lubecensis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:34:03am

re: #309 Nyet

N

Senatus Populusque Lubricantsis.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:34:50am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oh, yeah, the flag of the Bundy occupiers up there in Oregon. I remember that one.

Heh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:35:43am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

Oh, yeah, the flag of the Bundy occupiers up there in Oregon. I remember that one.

Heh.

Remember the ISIS dildo flag that sent CNN news into a tizzy?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:36:41am

re: #305 Dr Lizardo

So, this happened here in the Czech Republic.

reuters.com

If they start apprehending some of these people, maybe a book will come out about it like Cliff Stoll’s The Cuckoo’s Egg.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:37:59am

ZDNet is reporting that Wikileaks hosts hundreds of known computer viruses:

zdnet.com

According to the article, Wikileaks does not do basic anti-virus screenings of its document dumps. As such, it is very easy for a malicious actor to propagate a virus simply by including it in said dumps.

A recent dump of AK Party (Turkey) E-mails was shown by anti-virus researchers to have a slew of viruses.

A list of known viruses hosted at Wikileaks can be found here (Goes to Github)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:38:56am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember the ISIS dildo flag that sent CNN news into a tizzy?

Good times.

BBL. Off to work.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:48:05am

More on the whois from Todd and Clare:

It would appear from the address, on Google Street View the address is a warehouse with no company markings of any sort, which adds to the claim that Todd and Clare is more a sham than a real business.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:50:08am

re: #316 Anymouse

More on the whois from Todd and Clare:

It would appear from the address, on Google Street View the address is a warehouse with no company markings of any sort, which adds to the claim that Todd and Clare is more a sham than a real business.

Christian values-based business. Say no more.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:50:12am

re: #316 Anymouse

More on the whois from Todd and Clare:

It would appear from the address, on Google Street View the address is a warehouse with no company markings of any sort, which adds to the claim that Todd and Clare is more a sham CIA FRONT!!! than a real business.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 2:54:28am

In the Deb poll-of-polls-of-polls, HRC is ahead by 2 points everywhere but Alabama. Time to get back to work and finish him.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:02:10am

Eric Geller of Politico posted a screen capture of an E-mail which claims to be the official reason for Ecuador cutting off Julian Assange from the Internet:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:04:08am

re: #248 goddamnedfrank

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Until the Olberman clip yesterday I had no idea Laura was the routing center for Drudge’s messages in the 1990s. She’s such a stooge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:04:25am

re: #320 Anymouse

Eric Geller of Politico posted a screen capture of an E-mail which claims to be the official reason for Ecuador cutting off Julian Assange from the Internet:

Also seems a bit fishy to me.

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Anymouse  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:10:22am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Also seems a bit fishy to me.

Hence my choice of the word “claims,” since I cannot seem to find such a letter on the Ecuadorian Embassy Website in London.

In the meantime, Jerry Falwell, Jr. is reported to have axed an anti-sexual assault story in the Liberty University student newspaper (apparently the article was critical of Donald Trump).

Liberty University claims it prides itself on free expression by its students.

thedailybeast.com

Last I heard, faculty killing stories in student newspapers had been ruled a violation of the I Amendment by the Supreme Court. I am fairly sure that Liberty University could care less about the Supreme Court unless it rules on something it likes, however.

The author was addressing the “locker room talk” statement by Mr. Trump in the sports section of the school paper. According to the author, the school has never cut an article from that section before.

The Daily Beast article interviews the author with extensive quotes.

The original article as intended for the school newspaper is reprinted at Daily Beast (Streisand Effect, Rev. Falwell, heard of it?)

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:17:03am

re: #320 Anymouse

Eric Geller of Politico posted a screen capture of an E-mail which claims to be the official reason for Ecuador cutting off Julian Assange from the Internet:

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I’d like to see the Spanish version of that, which would automatically exist if it were legit.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:18:37am

The Assange thing seems to be too stupid for a serious CIA op (even as a rattle factor) but maybe it’s someone’s semester project at the Spycraft U.//

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:26:17am

When you’ve lost Frank Luntz:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:28:17am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:30:26am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:30:27am

re: #264 Nyet

48 hour rule is a good idea ;)

Now the question is: who did it and why?

Indeed. The Assange docs claim the Todd and Clare people were offered $1 million from Russians to use Assange in some kind of promotional video. But I seriously doubt Russia would bother using Todd and Clare dot com when they already have the means to pay Assange whenever they like.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:30:30am

The truth behind this story will likely be somewhat complicated. We don’t know if this was an anti-JA op from the start or whether it was to be used for other purposes and this thing was just an afterthought before winding down.

We don’t know if any state actors were involved, though we know there was some sort of a budget (if only for all the videos). This could as easily have been some prankster pissed off at JA, albeit a prankster of some means.

Some people just like hoaxing other people (cf. Peter Stahl aka Gregory Douglas).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:32:35am
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:36:36am

Today’s acrophobic pic:

Iron workers in NYC (Empire State Building?), 1930s.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:37:41am

re: #331 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Can’t JA just go down to the local public library?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:40:08am

re: #333 Barefoot Grin

Can’t JA just go down to the local public library?

Probably has to pass that Metro Police Station on the way….

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:41:32am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel

Today’s acrophobic pic:

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Iron workers in NYC (Empire State Building?), 1930s.

Either the ESB or the Chrysler Building. That’s Central Park in the background. The photo has been published before, so it should be easy to find which building was under construction.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:43:26am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel

Today’s acrophobic pic:

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Iron workers in NYC (Empire State Building?), 1930s.

Most likely. The angle on Central Park seems to rule out the other site, the Chrysler Bldg.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:43:30am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel

Lazy question: were there any accidents involving losing one’s balance at the time?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:45:05am

re: #243 Anymouse

What I find interesting about the Todd and Clare Website:

whois.icann.org

a) The registered owner is in Houston
b) The Website made a complaint to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada over its allegations against Wikileaks
c) It was only created in September of 2015
d) Its complaint is through PRWeb (a self-promotion service)
e) Wikileaks is not part of the United Nations Global Compact
unglobalcompact.org
f) There is no announcement on the UN Global Compact page I can find delisting Todd and Clare, though there is a letter on Todd and Clare’s Website that says they are joining the Compact from 2015.

There is a page for the dating website, but it says the company has been delisted.

unglobalcompact.org

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:47:03am

re: #337 Nyet

Lazy question: were there any accidents involving losing one’s balance at the time?

Only 5 dead on Empire State construction, very low for the times, and not necessarily from falls. It gave rise to a lot of folklore about the Mohawk high-steel workers.

en.wikipedia.org

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:48:30am

re: #337 Nyet

Lazy question: were there any accidents involving losing one’s balance at the time?

Yes. Workers on the high iron in those days did not have safety nets below. Even so, only five men died constructing the Empire State Building.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:49:14am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Only 5 dead on Empire State construction, very low for the times, and not necessarily from falls. It gave rise to a lot of folklore about the Mohawk high-steel workers.

en.wikipedia.org

Curse my slow Internet!!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:50:37am

re: #341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Curse my slow Internet!!

Your electrons have to travel farther.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:54:38am

A favorite photo of Margaret Bourke-White at work on the Chrysler Bldg for Life. The selfie-stick had not been invented.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:54:44am

re: #342 Decatur Deb

Your electrons have to travel farther.

I think they have to march single file on their way in or out of China.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:56:13am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Only 5 dead on Empire State construction, very low for the times, and not necessarily from falls. It gave rise to a lot of folklore about the Mohawk high-steel workers.

en.wikipedia.org

And Whorfian drivel about the Mohawk language making them immune to acrophobia.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:57:01am

re: #343 Decatur Deb

A favorite photo of Margaret Bourke-White at work on the Chrysler Bldg for Life. The selfie-stick had not been invented.

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Wikipedia reports that no workers died during the construction of the Chrysler Bldg. Even now, that’s pretty remarkable.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:59:01am

re: #344 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think they have to march single file on their way in or out of China.

Is that related to Ripley’s Marching Chinese?

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 3:59:07am

re: #345 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

waitwut

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:02:29am

re: #348 Nyet

waitwut

I’m sure you’re familiar with the Sapir/Whorf hypothesis. I can’t seem to find it right away, but I remember reading about Benjamin Lee Whorf hypothesizing that about the way the Mohawk language “forces” its speakers to perceive the world—like the “timeless” Hopi. It was a more innocent time.//

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:03:25am

re: #348 Nyet

waitwut

en.wikipedia.org

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:03:52am

re: #347 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is that related to Ripley’s Marching Chinese?

Sometime I wonder if it will take forever to load a page.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:09:05am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, it’s not in Language, Thought, and Reality, so I can’t back up my pre-internet reading…again. Never mind.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:12:35am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah know the hypothesis but did not expect such a literal application of it 😆

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:13:21am

re: #350 Decatur Deb

en.wikipedia.org

When I was a kid, we learned in school that the Mohawks were unafraid of heights and naturally sure-footed, so they were ideal candidates for high iron work. Recently, I read somewhere that the Mohawk elders considered that kind of work as a rite of passage for a young Mohawk man, and the young men themselves considered the high iron work as a kind of battle experience. Don’t have the reference handy now, though.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:14:14am

re: #352 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe from some lecture, from someone from his school of thought, or a satire by the critics 😉

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:16:27am

re: #354 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

When I was a kid, we learned in school that the Mohawks were unafraid of heights and naturally sure-footed, so they were ideal candidates for high iron work. Recently, I read somewhere that the Mohawk elders considered that kind of work as a rite of passage for a young Mohawk man, and the young men themselves considered the high iron work as a kind of battle experience. Don’t have the reference handy now, though.

Yup. That’s the kind of folklore mentioned above. Simple answer: A group of marginal people during an economic catastrophe developed a set of useful skills and contacts, and shared them.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:21:17am

re: #344 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think they have to march single file on their way in or out of China.

Only the most dedicated and loyal will complete the long march.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:32:04am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m sure you’re familiar with the Sapir/Whorf hypothesis. I can’t seem to find it right away, but I remember reading about Benjamin Lee Whorf hypothesizing that about the way the Mohawk language “forces” its speakers to perceive the world—like the “timeless” Hopi. It was a more innocent time.//

The German words for “guilt” and “debt” are the same (Schuld), which really goes a log way toward explaining their attitudes about money and finance.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:32:26am

re: #356 Decatur Deb

Yup. That’s the kind of folklore mentioned above. Simple answer: A group of marginal people during an economic catastrophe developed a set of useful skills and contacts, and shared them.

This is not the reference I recall reading, but it agrees with my memory of it.

Anthropologist Morris Frielich suggests a cultural lure for ironworking: He compares high-steel Mohawks to warriors who risked death and returned with booty. Some anthropologists have also suggested that the risky work gave tribesmen a chance to test and display their courage.

While many Mohawk ironworkers admit to taking pride in doing a dangerous and important job, they dispute the idea that they’re not afraid of heights. Kahnawake ironworker Don Angus says Mohawks simply “have more respect for heights. You’ve got to watch it up there.”

On the other hand, some historians and some Mohawks cite the tribes’ ancient tradition of building longhouses as proof that building has always been in the blood. “It’s a hand-me-down trade, and it’s tradition,” says Angus. “My grandfather and his grandfather worked on iron.” Akwesasne ironworker Mike Swamp agrees: “My father was an ironworker. My son is an ironworker. It’s a family tradition.”

worldhistoria.com

Historians say the first Mohawk construction workers were relegated to grunt work, but when ironworkers were needed at the start of the 20th century to build steel deck bridges and skyscrapers, the Mohawks were more willing to take on the risky work than other workers. They were especially good at riveting, for example.

If you’ve ever seen footage of high iron workers back in the day, it’s just amazing. It’s not just the guys walking nonchalantly along a foot-wide girder hundreds of feet in the air. The rivets used to join the girders together had to be red hot, and were hammered into place. One or two guys would heat the rivets in a furnace till red hot, then toss them with tongs to the riveters, who would catch them in a small bucket. Like baseball practice, but somewhat more dangerous.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:34:16am

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The German words for “guilt” and “debt” are the same (Schuld), which really goes a log way toward explaining their attitudes about money and finance.

Rather like the debate whether “debts” or “trespasses” is the correct word for the Lord’s Prayer.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:36:19am

I don’t know how reliable a source The Straight Dope is, but FWIW:

The Mohawks got into the business by happenstance. In 1886 a Canadian company was building a railroad bridge over the St. Lawrence river near the Kahnawake reservation. The company hired a number of Mohawks as day laborers, but found they loved to climb around on the ironwork without any apparent fear of heights. Since it was difficult to find men with the moxie for high work, the company decided to try an Indian crew. “We picked out some and gave them a little training, and it turned out that putting riveting tools in their hands was like putting ham with eggs,” a company official later wrote. Mohawks helped build bridges from then on.

In 1907 96 men were killed when a span of the Quebec Bridge collapsed during construction; 35 of them were Indians from Kahnawake. The dead were buried in the Kahnawake cemetery under crosses made of steel beams. Your average construction worker might have decided it was time to go into a safer line of work, but not the Mohawks. From that day forward every young male on the reservation was convinced that risking your neck on high steel was the coolest calling this world could offer.

The Mohawks eventually branched out from bridges into general steel construction, including office buildings. During the late 1920s a number of Kahnawake crews started working on skyscrapers in New York, and they’ve been a fixture of the city’s construction scene ever since. Some crews — the members are often related to one another — spend the weekends on the reservation and drive down to New York for the week; others live in Brooklyn. But they’ll travel anywhere if there’s steel to climb.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:37:19am

re: #359 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is not the reference I recall reading, but it agrees with my memory of it.

worldhistoria.com

…snip

If you’ve ever seen footage of high iron workers back in the day, it’s just amazing. It’s not just the guys walking nonchalantly along a foot-wide girder hundreds of feet in the air. The rivets used to join the girders together had to be red hot, and were hammered into place. One or two guys would heat the rivets in a furnace till red hot, then toss them with tongs to the riveters, who would catch them in a small bucket. Like baseball practice, but somewhat more dangerous.

That was a frequent image in the comic books and cartoon humor of the 1950s, and would make little or no sense today.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:37:39am

re: #360 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rather like the debate whether “debts” or “trespasses” is the correct word for the Lord’s Prayer.

Or “guilt”—OE “Forgyf us ure gyltas…”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:38:32am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

That was a frequent image in the comic books and cartoon humor of the 1950s, and would make little or no sense today.

In the movies, too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:39:58am

re: #363 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Or “guilt”—OE “Forgyf us ure gyltas…”

Neither a lender nor a borrower be. No gilt. No guilt.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:47:08am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

That was a frequent image in the comic books and cartoon humor of the 1950s, and would make little or no sense today.

Lots of things like that. How many people understand that line in “Johnny B Goode” about “strumming to the rhythm that the drivers made”
was about the steady rhythm of the main wheels of a steam locomotive (the Drivers) as the piston was pushed back and forth by the steam? It’s a sound and rhythm lost to someone who has never seen or heard a steam engine at speed.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:49:11am

Has to do with yield?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:52:21am

re: #366 William Lewis

Lots of things like that. How many people understand that line in “Johnny B Goode” about “strumming to the rhythm that the drivers made”
was about the steady rhythm of the main wheels of a steam locomotive (the Drivers) as the piston was pushed back and forth by the steam? It’s a sound and rhythm lost to someone who has never seen or heard a steam engine at speed.

Speaking of which, Chuck Berry turned 90 yesterday.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:56:38am

re: #367 Nyet

Has to do with yield?

“Yield” is cognate with “Geld” apparently. Never thought of that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:59:09am

re: #369 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

guilt (n.) Look up guilt at dictionary.com
Old English gylt “crime, sin, moral defect, failure of duty,” of unknown origin, though some suspect a connection to Old English gieldan “to pay for, debt,” but OED editors find this “inadmissible phonologically.” The -u- is an unetymological insertion. In law, “That state of a moral agent which results from his commission of a crime or an offense wilfully or by consent” [Century Dictionary], from early 14c. Then use for “sense of guilt,” considered erroneous by purists, is first recorded 1680s. Guilt by association recorded by 1919.

Via

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lockjawcanbefun  Oct 19, 2016 • 4:59:10am

re: #361 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s a more recent article, and given the site, probably a far more accurate one.

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Sionainn  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:07:22am

re: #300 Dr Lizardo

All this talk about city flags made me look to see if my city has one. It does. I’ve never seen it before and all I can say is, wow, this is lame.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:09:29am

So pissed right now I am forcing myself to be careful with my choice of words:

As the judge in the Stanford rape case learned, along with the judge in the “affluenza” drunken driving case, the whole world is watching them. A crowd, an angry crowd, can form in a matter of days of people outraged by what they consider a lenient sentence for a heinous crime.

In the case of Judge Robert McKeon, as of early morning Wednesday, almost 20,000 people had signed a change.org petition calling for his impeachment for the 60-day sentence he gave a Glasgow, Mont., man who pleaded guilty to repeatedly raping his prepubescent daughter.

“A father repeatedly raped his 12-year old daughter,” Deputy Valley County Attorney Dylan Jenson said during an Oct. 4 sentencing hearing.

“It’s time to start punishing the judges who let these monsters walk our streets,” read the petition.

Prosecutors had recommended a mandatory 25-year sentence, 100 years with 75 suspended, which is what state law calls for.

Instead, though, Judge McKeon handed down a far lighter sentence: a 30-year suspended prison sentence, which means the man will only serve it if he fails to meet the conditions of his probation.

Among those conditions, which McKeon called “quite rigorous,” was the requirement for the man to register as a sex offender, the Glasgow Courier reported. He also cannot access pornography and has limited access to the Internet.

In addition, the man will serve 60 days in jail, but McKeon gave him credit for the 17 days he already served, meaning he’ll only spend another 43 days in jail.

washingtonpost.com

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:13:10am
Lawyers contend DNA testing on recently discovered evidence proves the innocence of an Ivy man imprisoned for the vicious 1969 slaying of a 4-year-old Albemarle County boy.

Sherman Brown, now 69, was 22 years old when he was convicted and sentenced to death in large part on his identification by the boy’s mother — who was beaten, stabbed and apparently raped in the same attack — and by allegedly flawed hair and fiber evidence.

Now an inmate at the Green Rock Correctional Center near Chatham, Brown was one of 12 men on Virginia’s death row in 1972 when the U.S. Supreme Court struck down capital punishment as cruel and unusual. The justices allowed executions to resume in 1976, but by then, Brown had been resentenced to life in prison.

Because the Richmond Times-Dispatch does not publish the identity of sexual assault victims, the mother and slain son are not identified in this story.

In a writ of actual innocence filed with the Virginia Supreme Court, Brown argues, “Recent DNA testing demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence what I have maintained for over 45 years: that I am innocent of this crime.”

A partial male DNA profile from the mother’s vaginal swab is not Brown’s, and with more than 98 percent certainty, it also is not from the now-deceased husband of the woman. Brown argues that it “came from an unidentified third man and constitutes powerful evidence of my innocence.”

richmond.com

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Sionainn  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:14:41am

re: #373 Timothy Watson

So pissed right now I am forcing myself to be careful with my choice of words:

washingtonpost.com

I don’t blame you for being pissed. This pisses me off, too. The mother and the grandmother think that his children, particularly his boys, need to be around this disgusting piece of shit? What about his daughter? Did the mother leave the father? Does the daughter have to have to have visitation with her father or did the mother stay with the father and that poor girl has to live in the same house with him? I have daughters, 9 and 11, and I’d rip the balls off any man who touched them, including my husband.

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Sionainn  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:16:29am

re: #374 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

Another innocent life spent in prison. WTF is wrong with us?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:33:04am

re: #360 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rather like the debate whether “debts” or “trespasses” is the correct word for the Lord’s Prayer.

In German, they use Schuld.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:36:24am

re: #372 Sionainn

All this talk about city flags made me look to see if my city has one. It does. I’ve never seen it before and all I can say is, wow, this is lame.

According to “Batman Returns”, Gotham City is in Indiana, the Mayor of Gotham is seen seated in front of this flag:

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:45:50am

One more news story that I’ve privating…

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:46:11am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:52:48am

FFS

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 5:54:27am

re: #381 Dr. Matt

FFS

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Nice to see that Erick, son of Erick, hasn’t really changed that much.

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Archangelus  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:01:23am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel

Today’s acrophobic pic:

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Iron workers in NYC (Empire State Building?), 1930s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:03:14am

re: #379 Timothy Watson

…I’ve heard stories about the fucked-up vote registration system and the apparent widespread problems with people who have tried to register to vote through the DMV.

When the GOP sees increased voter registration and participation as a net-loss proposition, it tells you a lot about the nature of the party, their constituency and their message.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:03:53am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:07:29am

I was looking at some tweets of my son’s high school friends just now and one said something like, ‘my parents tried to explain to me why they are voting for Trump and I told them I’m going to egg our house.’ It doesn’t explain anything; just thought it was funny.

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Archangelus  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:08:31am

re: #372 Sionainn

All this talk about city flags made me look to see if my city has one. It does. I’ve never seen it before and all I can say is, wow, this is lame.

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Lame? That’s downright elegant and beautiful by comparison:

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Brian J.  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:09:33am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart

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I’m sure Donny’s yelling to Kellyanne that if he’s losing among women and losing among men, she’s gotta find some other set of voters.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:09:37am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When the GOP sees increased voter registration and participation as a net-loss proposition, it tells you a lot about the nature of the party, their constituency and their message.

Our former long-time WA SoS, Sam Reed, may have been a Republican, but he did everything he could to make it as easy as possible to register and vote and to encourage everybody to do so. Extinct species, I guess. I’m going to vote against his successor on Nov. 8, even though I know of nothing specific that she’s done wrong, just because the thought of any Republican presiding over the voting process nowadays gives me the heebie-jeebies.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:12:28am

re: #388 Brian J.

I’m sure Donny’s yelling to Kellyanne that if he’s losing among women and losing among men, she’s gotta find some other set of voters.

All the people arrested for using the wrong bathroom in North Carolina? Not a big enough demographic, I’m afraid.

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No Depression  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:12:50am

Not sure how I feel about my town’s flag. It’s unique, I’ll give it that.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:13:38am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart

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“Totally rigged. Bloomberg. Guy hates me. Lousy mayor anyway. “

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:14:55am

re: #391 No Depression

Quahog?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:16:28am

re: #381 Dr. Matt

On Nov 8, Clinton’s claims of a mandate will fly in the face of reality. She only won by not being Trump.
— Erick Erickson

Reality. Reality. You keep saying that word.

Tell me, Son of Erick, did the other 16 Republicans in the race win by not being Trump?

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No Depression  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:16:43am

re: #393 freetoken

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:17:26am

re: #381 Dr. Matt

On Nov 8, Clinton’s claims of a mandate will fly in the face of reality. She only won by not being Trump.
— Erick Erickson

Translation: Senate Republicans don’t have to confirm any Clinton court nominees.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:19:20am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When the GOP sees increased voter registration and participation as a net-loss proposition, it tells you a lot about the nature of the party, their constituency and their message.

The bad thing is that we have a Democratic governor, I think the problem in Virginia is more IT related than anything.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:21:02am

re: #382 Timothy Watson

Nice to see that Erick, son of Erick, hasn’t really changed that much.

He’s attempting to set the narrative for the next 4 years.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:21:24am

re: #394 Sir John Barron

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harlequinade  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:21:47am

Um….Time Tunnel People - have seen this…right?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:22:02am

re: #343 Decatur Deb

A favorite photo of Margaret Bourke-White at work on the Chrysler Bldg for Life. The selfie-stick had not been invented.

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I couldn’t do it. Nope.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:22:55am

As Thailand grieves late king, mobs wage street justice for perceived insults to beloved monarch

The death of Thailand’s much-beloved King Bhumibol Adulyadej last week after a protracted illness has left a nation of nearly 70 million people in a state of mourning that plays out in public — with millions dressing in black and joining in memorial rites for a ruler who spent seven decades on the throne.

But in recent days, the collective grief has spawned something else: violent monarchist mobs that pursue those they feel have insulted the late king or who aren’t appropriately dressed.

[…]

Leaders of the military junta on Tuesday gave conflicting messages to the public about the violence. The prime minister, Prayuth Chan-ocha, exhorting the Thai people to stop “chasing” those who are not wearing black.

But the country’s justice minister, Paiboon Koomchaya, later said: “There is no better way to punish these people than to socially sanction them.”

[…]

Well, what can we say?

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:23:22am

re: #283 ElaineBenis

Trump signs were there when I last drove thru about 3 weeks ago, so yeah, the groping/assault tape was probably the catalyst for sign removal.

The other thing I find weird is that Trump tv ads have been running regularly in the Seattle market. For sure he has supporters here, but there’s no conceivable way he going to win the state. None. Seems like a stupid, fruitless waste of money.
.

He’s setting up another big write-off. Hey, it worked once…
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:23:54am

re: #400 harlequinade

Um….Time Tunnel People - have seen this…right?

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No, I hadn’t. Thank you!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:25:11am

re: #397 Timothy Watson

The bad thing is that we have a Democratic governor, I think the problem in Virginia is more IT related than anything.

So this is not suppression, just basic bumbling?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:26:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:26:17am

re: #402 freetoken

As Thailand grieves late king, mobs wage street justice for perceived insults to beloved monarch

Well, what can we say?

Just like the Dixie Chicks and King George the W

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:26:22am
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harlequinade  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:26:27am

re: #404 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thank you! I _loved_ that show as a kid, and as soon as I saw this: re: #165 De Kolta Chair

I’d love to watch The Time Tunnel again. Public library, here I come! ;-)

After a bit of searching: VHS only? WTF NY Public Library?!! WTF Hollywood???!!!

I had to find a place online.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:27:19am

re: #279 Anymouse

Though Nate Silver has my district (NE-3) at R+33.5, I’ve noticed that since the Access Hollywood tape came out the ubiquitous Trump/Pence signs all around the area are gone.

I realise that “polling by yard sign” is not a terribly accurate science, and the three or four counties I roam in the Nebraska Panhandle are only a portion of NE-3, but I wonder if polling is capturing this trend?

The only poll I ever got in an election came only a couple days ago, paraphrasing the questions (the pollster said he would ask about various political positions):

Q - Are you voting for Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, or someone else?

Me - Hillary Clinton

Q - (click, dial tone)

That didn’t seem like much of a poll. It sounded more like a push for Donald Trump.

“See? We polled NE-3 and 98% of the respondents approved of my platform”

People from Crooked Hillary are stealing my signs! Rigged!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:28:02am

re: #408 lawhawk

Trump bringing Obama’s Kenyan 1/2 brother to debate to get in HRC’s head. Cuz she was born in IL which must make her Mexican…or something.

Preaching to the choir.

On the other hand, DT has almost nothing left to lose by totally going nucular in this last debate

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:28:58am

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:29:55am

Creationist Harun Yahya is back in the news:

Turkish creationists are behind anti-gay leaflets: media

The anti-gay leaflets distributed to homes in western parts of Amsterdam are likely to be the work of supporters of Turkish creationist Harun Yahya, the Volkskrant said on Tuesday.

The same quotes and photographs as used on the leaflet can be found on two Dutch Facebook pages interspersed with quotes and films featuring Yahya, who is characterised by his ultra-conservative creationism, the paper says.

[…]

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:29:59am

re: #405 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So this is not suppression, just basic bumbling?

That and some crony capitalism thrown in when the state decided to outsource almost every IT contract to Northrop Grumman.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:31:06am

re: #412 The Vicious Babushka

1488 - yeah that’s not a year, but code for the fourteen words and Heil Hitler.

Deplorable? Certainly.

White supremacist/Neo Nazi? Absolutely.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:31:11am

re: #412 The Vicious Babushka

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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There are days when I think Twitter should just be destroyed.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:33:18am

re: #415 lawhawk

1488 - yeah that’s not a year, but code for the fourteen words and Heil Hitler.

Deplorable? Certainly.

White supremacist/Neo Nazi? Absolutely.

He (or she) doesn’t have Deplorable in its name. That seems an oversight.

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Franklin  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:33:39am

re: #394 Sir John Barron

Reality. Reality. You keep saying that word.

Tell me, Son of Erick, did the other 16 Republicans in the race win by not being Trump?

Exactly. He seems to be implying that Trumpism has the mandate to reshape the Republican party.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:34:14am

re: #268 Nyet

Meanwhile there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of moral scruples at DKos. Falsely claiming someone is a pedophile as long as they’re enemy seems to be a new normal now.

dailykos.com

I love it when you get judgmental like that. That would be like judging LGF bad because of one person’s comments here.

I wish the diarist hadn’t deleted the post, because it contained links to other sources. It would have been tough for him to have been first if he was putting other information together.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:34:28am

re: #381 Dr. Matt

FFS

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On Nov 8, Clinton’s claims of a mandate will fly in the face of reality. She only won by not being Trump.

unless by “reality” you mean winning by a lot more votes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:34:38am

re: #417 Sir John Barron

He (or she) doesn’t have Deplorable in its name. That seems an oversight.

it is understood from the context

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:34:54am

re: #418 Franklin

Exactly. He seems to be implying that Trumpism has the mandate to reshape the Republican party.

I wonder if, say, Rubio had won the nomination, if Son of Erick would have had much use for “Well, Rubio can’t ever claim a mandate, because he only won for not being Trump.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:35:29am

re: #413 freetoken

Creationist Harun Yahya is back in the news:

Turkish creationists are behind anti-gay leaflets: media

Ah, Turkey’s favorite looney and Erdogan bootlicker.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:36:07am

re: #421 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is understood from the context

Maybe it thinks Deplorable is too mild to describe themselves.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:36:15am

SMOTI jubilates that # of Black Trump voters doubles from 1 to 2

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:37:25am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI jubilates that # of Black Trump voters doubles from 1 to 2

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This doesn’t exactly mesh with the whole “The blacks in the Inner Cities are rigging the vote against Me!!!” message of the Trump campaign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:38:05am

re: #426 Sir John Barron

This doesn’t exactly mesh with the whole “The blacks in the Inner Cities are rigging the vote against Me!!!” message of the Trump campaign.

no mesh, just mush

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:39:09am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI jubilates that # of Black Trump voters doubles from 1 to 2

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I’m sure Dim Jim will be among the first on November 9 to claim Trump would have won, actually really did win, except for the voter fraud in the Inner Cities.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:39:54am

Just a reminder:

[GWB]: “I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it. It is my style.”

[Darth Cheney]: “President Bush ran forthrightly on a clear agenda for this nation’s future, and the nation responded by giving him a mandate”

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:40:18am

After the 2008 election, I wasn’t sold on Obama - I didn’t think that he was ready for foreign policy and the challenges awaiting the nation, but I considered myself part of the loyal opposition. I would oppose or stand with the President on the issues and principles. If the President made good choices, I’d support. I’d question if he was doing something wrong.

I went from being in the loyal opposition to supporting Obama and Democrats outright. Part of that was watching how the GOP went from being the opposing party to the party of obstructionism and refusing to govern or legislate. There was no good faith effort to work with the president on any issue.

Budget battles became potential government shutdowns.

Debt ceiling issues became potential economy battering rams.

Obstructionism and blind hate of the President became all consuming.

Now, those same obstructionists and irrational haters are threatening to continue their actions into a Clinton Presidency.

They aren’t the loyal opposition. They are setting the groundwork for being secessionists and insurrectionists. Just watch the words and deeds of Trump supporters who are the core of the GOP. This is what year after year of irrational hate and fear mongering has wrought.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:40:49am

re: #428 Sir John Barron

I’m sure Dim Jim will be among the first on November 9 to claim Trump would have won, actually really did win, except for the voter fraud in the Inner Cities.

THOSE DAMN RIGGERS IN THE INNER CITY COST TRUMP THE ELECTION!!!

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:41:40am

re: #431 Dr Lizardo

Who knew there were so many theater buffs /

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:43:16am

re: #430 lawhawk

The GOP today is a long way from Gerald Ford territory.

I still chalk the current reactionary movement that has taken over the GOP to the Loss-of-God problem. As a society we in the US are in a protracted existential crisis.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:44:19am

re: #405 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So this is not suppression, just basic bumbling?

someone call me?

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Great White Snark  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:44:25am

re: #430 lawhawk

I think that’s why many did not want Clinton to be the candidate. No fault of hers but upsetting that equation has a certain appeal far from the DC beltway. But we have what we have and a shift in the houses would be very welcome. Crossed fingers

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:44:29am

re: #430 lawhawk

I went from being in the loyal opposition to supporting Obama and Democrats outright. Part of that was watching how the GOP went from being the opposing party to the party of obstructionism and refusing to govern or legislate. There was no good faith effort to work with the president on any issue.

Remember how the GOP suddenly opposed Romneycare as soon as Obama put his name on it and tried to do it nationally?

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:45:15am

re: #419 Belafon

I compared the comments that express a measure of remorse with those that continue on their merry way to reach my conclusion. Note that the initial diary got on the most shared list and the diary I link to on the rec list, so one can gauge the sentiment, +-. So your analogy with 1 person at LGF is false.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:45:55am

re: #433 freetoken

The GOP today is a long way from Gerald Ford territory.

I still chalk the current reactionary movement that has taken over the GOP to the Loss-of-God problem. As a society we in the US are in a protracted existential crisis.

I also think that the cuts in education that started under Reagan are coming home to roost: I see a lot of people who do not seem to grasp basic concepts of science, civics, or even rational, critical thinking.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:46:03am

Indeed, I’ll go so far as to say the Hillary Clinton is similar to Ford/Rockefeller. This of course aggravates some of the more leftist elements of the Democratic Party.

Drumpfskind really is George Wallace Mk. II.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:46:29am
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:47:23am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Preaching to the choir.

On the toher hand DT has almost nothing left to lose by totally going nucular in this last debate

if you mean going nuclear with some new antic then yeah

this one is more like going seafood, or spray paint or the non-sequitur of your choice

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:48:32am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember how the GOP suddenly opposed Romneycare as soon as Obama put his name on it and tried to do it nationally?

Heritage Foundation went from creating the notion of individual mandate to foster personal responsibility to then claiming the entire policy idea was unconstitutional.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:49:26am

re: #387 Archangelus

Lame? That’s downright beautiful compared to my home city’s flag:

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CITY OF LOS ANGELES

a reminder — Los Angeles’ full name is La Ciudad de Nuestra Señora Maria, Reina de Los Angeles.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:50:24am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI jubilates that # of Black Trump voters doubles from 1 to 2

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they had to rewrite trumps adlib and then practice drill him how to say it
“look at my african americans

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:51:03am

re: #443 sagehen

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a reminder — Los Angeles’ full name is La Ciudad de Nuestra Señora Maria, Reina de Los Angeles.

LOL I told a student of mine that and she didn’t believe me until she looked up it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:51:54am

re: #443 sagehen

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a reminder — Los Angeles’ full name is La Ciudad de Nuestra Señora Maria, Reina de Los Angeles.

And RI’s full name is “Rhode Island and Providence Plantations”. [/Trivial Pursuit Questions]

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:52:56am

re: #430 lawhawk

After the 2008 election, I wasn’t sold on Obama - I didn’t think that he was ready for foreign policy and the challenges awaiting the nation, but I considered myself part of the loyal opposition. I would oppose or stand with the President on the issues and principles. If the President made good choices, I’d support. I’d question if he was doing something wrong.

I went from being in the loyal opposition to supporting Obama and Democrats outright. Part of that was watching how the GOP went from being the opposing party to the party of obstructionism and refusing to govern or legislate. There was no good faith effort to work with the president on any issue.

Budget battles became potential government shutdowns.

Debt ceiling issues became potential economy battering rams.

Obstructionism and blind hate of the President became all consuming.

Now, those same obstructionists and irrational haters are threatening to continue their actions into a Clinton Presidency.

They aren’t the loyal opposition. They are setting the groundwork for being secessionists and insurrectionists. Just watch the words and deeds of Trump supporters who are the core of the GOP. This is what year after year of irrational hate and fear mongering has wrought.

ill keep pulling this out as necessary (it’s a change from constantly having to call trump a pig)

politics no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently.

it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and only can be capable of behaving despicably

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:53:08am

Here is the Flag of Detroit, designed before it became the “Motor City”

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:53:09am

San Diego has a colorful flag:

San Diego city flag
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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:53:12am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:53:18am

At school last night, from 5-7, we invited parents of students to come and have open, 5 minute conferences with any teacher the wished. Overall, great meeting some new parents of students, good discussions of which students need help(Chemistry), and which need some extra motivation(Seniors).

Then at the very end of the night, had a parent come in of a student I did not teach. Spent more time talking to him than any other last night.
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:55:11am

re: #97 Lidane

Related:

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I’m not nearly that optimistic. There are too many rednecks that reflexively vote (R) in Texas for me to believe that Hillary’s in a statistical tie here.

My son and his wife in San Antonio are trying to make it a reality. Small voices in the noise but you never know.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:56:05am

There is a horrible-looking industrial building on fire behind the two toga-wearing ladies. I’m not sure what the the Latin phrase says “We hope to do better”?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:56:10am

Looks awfully Muslimy….

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b.d.  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:56:31am

I really have no idea how I suddenly got on the Trump mailing list, thank God all of his and his spawn’s emails go to my junk file.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:57:53am

re: #451 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’m all about critical thinking, and having your own beliefs and arguments, but damn. At least have some information and facts on your side. I’m sure I’ll end up teaching his child in a couple of years and have to have this conversation again.

This is intellectually egalitarian America, where anybody’s opinion is as valid as anyone else’s…but that criterion does not apply to the facts.

Howard Zinn’s People’ History is awesome; I do not agree with all of his conclusions, but we do need a more balanced look at how America came to be where it is today.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:58:02am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

Looks awfully Muslimy….

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IT’S A PENTAGRAM!!11!! DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!ELEVENTY!!

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:58:23am

Vexillologists unite! This thread devolved into Sheldon Cooper’s fun with flags.

NYC Flag:

It speaks to NYC history, including the Dutch colors, the Native American, and other symbols from when the city was founded by the Dutch West India Company in 1625

The NYS flag includes the motto Excelsior! Stan Lee would approve.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:58:59am

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Good morning!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 6:59:48am

re: #452 Eventual Carrion

My son and his wife in San Antonio are trying to make it a reality. Small voices in the noise but you never know.

on r’s voting r, d’s voting d, etc

this is interesting at electoral-vote.com today partisainship rules

on the four types of voters
and the three types of independents

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No Depression  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:00:04am

re: #454 Dr. Matt

Looks awfully Muslimy….

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Muslimy AND Communist. JUST LIKE OBAMA!!!11!!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:01:40am

Looks like something a 3rd grader drew.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:02:05am

I didn’t know Seattle had a flag (I knew about the seal in the middle), but this is revolting.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:03:46am

re: #456 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If an American (with colonial ancestry) does genealogy and keeps an open mind, a lot of information about our past can be gathered just by reading records from the past couple of centuries.

I note that some Americans involved in genealogy, if you watch programs like WDYTYA, read into the past some ideology that they have been taught.

My belief is that the past isn’t so easily packaged.

Also, those of us who have searched for our colonial ancestors also discover how few people really were able to sign their own documents. We take literacy and education for granted today.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:03:48am

re: #463 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I didn’t know Seattle had a flag (I knew about the seal in the middle), but this is revolting.

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Good grief.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:03:55am

re: #458 lawhawk

Vexillologists unite! This thread devolved into Sheldon Cooper’s fun with flags.

NYC Flag:

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It speaks to NYC history, including the Dutch colors, the Native American, and other symbols from when the city was founded by the Dutch West India Company in 1625

The NYS flag includes the motto Excelsior! Stan Lee would approve.

i remember this packing stuff was called excelsior
at 6 years old i didnt understand why it was part of the NYS motto

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:04:15am

re: #449 freetoken

San Diego has a colorful flag:

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San Diego city flag

1542?

The Mayflower was 1620.

The Roanoke Charter was 1584. Virginia Dare was born 1587.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:04:35am

re: #462 Dr. Matt

Looks like something a 3rd grader drew.

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My high school Spanish is getting a workout today. [something] in Peace, Fierce in War?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:05:07am

re: #465 Sir John Barron

Good grief.

Looks like Cthulhu’s devouring Chief Seattle, doesn’t it?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:05:14am

re: #450 Dr. Matt

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Also, that guy in the picture making ID cards, or something.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:05:24am

I Googled the Motto of Detroit and got this translation:

“Speramus meliora; resurget cineribus”

“We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes”

Seems accurate.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:06:58am

re: #464 freetoken

If an American (with colonial ancestry) does genealogy and keeps an open mind, a lot of information about our past can be gathered just by reading records from the past couple of centuries.

I note that some Americans involved in genealogy, if you watch programs like WDYTYA, read into the past some ideology that they have been taught.

My belief is that the past isn’t so easily packaged.

Also, those of us who have searched for our colonial ancestors also discover how few people really were able to sign their own documents. We take literacy and education for granted today.

and people seem to want to be definitively typed as just one thing. i’m an x or a y, from specifically here or there. they want to have clearly been something. - no one wants to be a mutt.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:07:03am

re: #443 sagehen

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a reminder — Los Angeles’ full name is La Ciudad de Nuestra Señora Maria, Reina de Los Angeles.

LA flag looks awfully Mexicany.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:08:14am

re: #467 sagehen

1542?

The Mayflower was 1620.

Cabrillo landed in San Diego Bay and claimed it for Spain in 1542.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:08:31am

re: #471 The Vicious Babushka

I Googled the Motto of Detroit and got this translation:

“Speramus meliora; resurget cineribus”

“We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes”

Seems accurate.

appropriate to Phoenix?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:09:30am

re: #468 A wild WITHAK appeared!

My high school Spanish is getting a workout today. [something] in Peace, Fierce in War?

I should have known that oro is gold/golden, and then inferred that fierro is iron.

“Golden in Peace, Iron in War”

Nice motto, but doesn’t sound particularly San Diego-y.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:09:35am

re: #464 freetoken

If an American (with colonial ancestry) does genealogy and keeps an open mind, a lot of information about our past can be gathered just by reading records from the past couple of centuries…

My belief is that the past isn’t so easily packaged.

My own immigrant family history is a bit like that: I grew up aware that my grandmother had been divorced, my granddad was actually my step-granddad and that my real grandfather lived in Cleveland somewhere.

I later found out that my grandmother was sent over to the US around 1912 to marry the fellow, had my mom and aunt Helen with him, and then ran off with a boarder in the house, the father of my uncle Gabe.

That also explains why she never came to church with us: I just assumed she was staying home to make Sunday dinner, but she was not allowed to participate in Communion as she was an adultress in the eyes of the Catholic church

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:09:42am

re: #472 dangerman

and people seem to want to be definitively typed as just one thing. i’m an x or a y, from specifically here or there. they want to have clearly been something. - no one wants to be a mutt.

We’re Mutts

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:09:57am

Li’l Whiplash is such a tool.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:10:33am

re: #475 dangerman

appropriate to Phoenix?

Appropriate to a city that has had to rebuild itself over and over.

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b.d.  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:11:49am

People in my city get confused very easily so we made our flag very simple.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:11:55am

re: #467 sagehen

1542?

The Mayflower was 1620.

The Mayflower was hardly the first Europeans to North America.

The Mayflower is used by the religious right as their start of American history, but that is because they want to promote the ideology of some of the religious leaders of that group.

As far as English colonists, Jamestown predates the Mayflower compact. But Jamestown was about wealth and spreading English dominion, and that doesn’t play well into the mythologized American history that is so often taught.

The Spanish were here first, and San Diego is the landing point for the discovery of California and the west. Mostly the natives were not brought under control until the greatly expanded Spanish mission movement that started in the early 1720’s, though.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:13:16am

re: #478 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Video

right - and that commercial for i think ancestry.com

all this time i though i was x. then i come to find out im really y

so all these years of eating pierogies on the weekend. now ive got to learn to like haggis

is your familial culture really that shallow and weak?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:13:38am

re: #479 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Whiplash is such a tool.

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Franken and Gregoire won their offices by official recounts. Do you really want to start questioning recounts after 2000 Florida, Ben.

(Man, I’m glad we seem to have heard the last of Dino Rossi.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:13:51am

re: #479 The Vicious Babushka

REVEALED: Dems Engage in Voter Fraud, Stir Up Violence

We move closer to 1860 every day…you do realize that large swaths of the US population are not going to recognize the outcome of this election as legitimate.

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No Depression  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:14:50am

I think Baltimore has one of the better looking municipal flags:

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:14:55am

re: #463 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I didn’t know Seattle had a flag (I knew about the seal in the middle), but this is revolting.

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It’s disturbingly similar to the Starbucks’ logo.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:15:36am

re: #446 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And RI’s full name is “Rhode Island and Providence Plantations”. [/Trivial Pursuit Questions]

Actually, it is The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.

Can I haz pie now? (I believe it would be blue, IIRC. I loved me some Trivial Pursuit!)

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:16:22am

re: #484 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Franken and Gregoire won their offices by official recounts. Do you really want to start questioning recounts after 2000 Florida, Ben.

(Man, I’m glad we seem to have heard the last of Dino Rossi.)

Only because they wouldn’t accept the ballots for the Lizard People!

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:16:36am

re: #473 Sir John Barron

LA flag looks awfully Mexicany.

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On purpose.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:16:36am

re: #482 freetoken

There’s a reason that St. Augustine is the oldest European founded city in the US. 1565. Pensacola was a few years older, but not continuously inhabited. Roanoke was settled in 1585 but abandoned. Jamestown came much later, as did the rest of the British colonial settlements, including Plymouth.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:17:22am

re: #476 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I should have known that oro is gold/golden, and then inferred that fierro is iron.

“Golden in Peace, Iron in War”

Nice motto, but doesn’t sound particularly San Diego-y.

Good, because it’s San Francisco.

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Nyet  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:17:41am

I know I’m entering the tin foil territory, and I’m not making a positive claim, but this Foval dude’s busing in story is so wild that he almost looks like a double agent who was paid by O’Keefe (and yes, he had a long’ish Dem career). Probably just an inveterate, ahem, story-teller though.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:17:41am

re: #479 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Whiplash is such a tool.

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REVEALED=Confirmed. FACT!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:18:20am

re: #480 The Vicious Babushka

Appropriate to a city that has had to rebuild itself over and over.

i knew that ;-)

i was going for the “rising from the ashes” part

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:18:30am

re: #459 jeffreyw

What is that? And give me the recipe, please!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:18:49am

re: #482 freetoken

The Mayflower was hardly the first Europeans to North America.

The Mayflower is used by the religious right as their start of American history, but that is because they want to promote the ideology of some of the religious leaders of that group.

As far as English colonists, Jamestown predates the Mayflower compact. But Jamestown was about wealth and spreading English dominion, and that doesn’t play well into the mythologized American history that is so often taught.

The Spanish were here first, and San Diego is the landing point for the discovery of California and the west. Mostly the natives were not brought under control until the greatly expanded Spanish mission movement that started in the early 1720’s, though.

Hernan De Soto claimed my Alabama backyard for Spain in 1541-42. The Choctaws were not consulted.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:19:29am

re: #472 dangerman

and people seem to want to be definitively typed as just one thing. i’m an x or a y, from specifically here or there. they want to have clearly been something. - no one wants to be a mutt.

When you’re registering a dog for obedience classes, or the vet needs to classify it… mixed-breeds of indeterminate parentage are officially All-American.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:19:58am

re: #487 sagehen

It’s disturbingly similar to the Starbucks’ logo.

doesnt starbucks own seattle by now?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:20:14am

re: #492 sagehen

Good, because it’s San Francisco.

LOL, not enough coffee yet. Close enough, right? ;-)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:20:21am

Baby Whiplash WINS the “Received The Most Anti-Semitic Abuse On Twitter From Alt-Right” but he still wants to ride the Trump Train!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:20:38am

re: #494 Sir John Barron

REVEALED=Confirmed. FACT!

I swear Benny can’t go a day without fucking whining.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:20:48am

I recall seeing this a while back

All State Flags Suck

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:21:23am

re: #488 MsJ

Actually, it is The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.

Can I haz pie now? (I believe it would be blue, IIRC. I loved me some Trivial Pursuit!)

“What state has the longest name?” It was fun to watch people mentally counting the letters in “Mississippi” and “Massachusetts”.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:23:05am

re: #504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“What state has the longest name?” It was fun to watch people mentally counting the letters in “Mississippi” and “Massachusetts”.

(whipping off shoes to count properly)

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:24:48am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash WINS the “Received The Most Anti-Semitic Abuse On Twitter From Alt-Right” but he still wants to ride the Trump Train!

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Hasn’t Bethany Mandel been blaming Trump’s ascension on anybody but the GOP too?

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:26:11am

re: #499 dangerman

doesnt starbucks own seattle by now?

That would be Microsoft; Starbucks are merely tenants.

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Tigger2  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:26:38am

Good Add, “My Son Can’t Live In Trump World”

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:27:50am

re: #504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“What state has the longest name?” It was fun to watch people mentally counting the letters in “Mississippi” and “Massachusetts”.

well i know “ohio” is round on the ends and hi in the middle

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:28:24am

Jacksonville, Florida, since 1976

And, it makes a pretty damn spiffy manhole cover

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:29:10am

re: #506 Timothy Watson

Hasn’t Bethany Mandel been blaming Trump’s ascension on anybody but the GOP too?

Baby Whiplash was totes OK with the Anti-Semitic abuse as long as it was directed at “Leftist” Jews (who he claims are not “real Jews”)

Bethany, like Li’l Whipsies, is a #NeverTrump but still believes Hillary is TEH WORSER!!!!!!

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:29:11am

re: #508 Tigger2

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Her ad team is just so good. Just about every ad I’ve seen from them is a home run.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:31:34am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash was totes OK with the Anti-Semitic abuse as long as it was directed at “Leftist” Jews (who he claims are not “real Jews”)

Bethany, like Li’l Whipsies, is a #NeverTrump but still believes Hillary is TEH WORSER!!!!!!

I uses to follow her back in the day on Twitter when I was a Republican and I thought she was smart.

Sigh, it’s really depressing the number of people who I thought were smart and ended up writing for The Federalist of all places.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:34:28am

re: #510 FormerDirtDart

Jacksonville, Florida, since 1976

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Ahem, excuse me: personhole cover. Thank you.

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:37:01am

City flag of Mesa, Arizona:

Yes, the city is on a mesa

It was adopted in 2012.

A good chunk of Mesa is on an actual (not very tall) mesa. But you can’t hardly tell any more due to the city being very nearly built out.

ETA: Just some trivia about saguaro cactus. They only grow naturally between 2,000 and 4,000 feet. You can tell when you’re in a higher elevation in this part of Arizona because saguaro will suddenly appear in the landscape. As you climb further up (say, going up the Mogollon Rim to get to Flagstaff), the saguaro stop appearing.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:39:12am

There was something on TV not too long ago about how most flags suck. Too many flags are complicated and include words. One city’s flag even included trademark markings. According to a group that recommends flags, no flag should have words on it.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:40:26am

They’re nothing if not predictable…

The dead are voting!

The audience running away after the GOP debate
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Bubblehead II  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:41:08am

We have water falls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:41:56am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:42:13am

re: #515 mmmirele

City flag of Mesa, Arizona:

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It was adopted in 2012.

A good chunk of Mesa is on an actual (not very tall) mesa. But you can’t hardly tell any more due to the city being very nearly built out.

ETA: Just some trivia about saguaro cactus. They only grow naturally between 2,000 and 4,000 feet. You can tell when you’re in a higher elevation in this part of Arizona because saguaro will suddenly appear in the landscape. As you climb further up (say, going up the Mogollon Rim to get to Flagstaff), the saguaro stop appearing.

Looks like a middle finger

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:42:22am

re: #518 Bubblehead II

We have water falls.

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“People Serving People”

IT’S A COOKBOOK!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:42:52am

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Am almost principled-like statement from Rubio. What the hell kind of world has this election created?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:44:01am
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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:44:08am

re: #517 lawhawk

They’re nothing if not predictable…

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The dead are voting!

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Another election, another long set of excuses for why they’re going to lose that magically disappear the moment that they win.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:44:56am

re: #507 sagehen

That would be Microsoft; Starbucks are merely tenants.

FDR’s Chief of Staff: “The Senators from Boeing are here to see you, sir.”

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:46:21am
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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:46:31am

re: #516 Belafon

Japanese city flags look like alien ideograms:

en.wikipedia.org

However, they fit the recommendation of no words.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:46:44am

Since we’re doing city flags, here’s Louisville, KY’s after the merger with Jefferson County in 2003.

The fleur-de-lis has been the symbol of the city since its founding, to honor its namesake, King Louis XVI of France.

The previous flag was simpler:

13 stars for the original colonies, but I’m not sure why there are 3 fleur-de-lis.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:48:22am

This is why the GOP has ceased being a political party and instead become a cult of personality. They never lose legitimately, it’s always through the shadowy machinations of the DNC and its plethora of cheating methods. And when it’s not that, it’s that “true conservatives” stayed home because the candidate wasn’t “conservative enough.” Because they have to keep telling themselves that they’re the true majority in America, that the “center-right” that they keep insisting America is embraces their far-right ideology, and so the only way they can lose is by their refusing to vote.

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Tigger2  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:49:01am

re: #517 lawhawk

They’re nothing if not predictable…

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The dead are voting!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:50:11am

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered==>
Did Henry Ford know that a nice Jewish boy would become CEO of his company, & his great-great-(don’t know how many greats)-granddaughter would marry a black man?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:50:21am

re: #528 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

13 stars for the original colonies, but I’m not sure why there are 3 fleur-de-lis.

This is obviously the flag of the EU after they decide they need a king and offer the throne to the Bourbons. It could happen!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:51:00am

re: #528 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Since we’re doing city flags, here’s Louisville, KY’s after the merger with Jefferson County in 2003.

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The 13 stars represent the 13 colonies that existed at the time of Louisville’s founding as a city. The use of the fleur de lis is a tribute to King Louis the XVI for the help offered during the Revolutionary War.

The layout of the fleur de lis is similar to the old French Navy Flag. It is believed that George Rogers Clark (believed to be one of the founders of Louisville) carried this flag, and possibly another, when he rode in battle. An image of this flag is below. You can see that the layout is the same as the old City of Louisville Flag.

brandlouisville.com

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:52:12am

I’m sure this is some of the “tougher” policing Trump would be in favor of…

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:52:14am

re: #517 lawhawk

This is the actual Pew Research, which suggests that making registrations online and better database management can reduce the issues - getting rid of paper applications and making the process easier to change from one jurisdiction to another will reduce the chances that someone is registered in multiple locations.

There’s no evidence that people are going and voting in multiple locations, even if they’re registered in multiple locations.

Clearing dead voters from voter rolls is a necessary update, and it’s one that lags because of a lack of coordination and data matching:

Comparing registration lists with other data sources to broaden the base of information used to update and verify voter rolls.

Using proven data-matching techniques and security protocols to ensure accuracy and security.

Establishing new ways voters can submit information online and minimize manual data entry, resulting in lower costs and fewer errors.

Far from proviing that there’s voter fraud, this indicates that the problem is with inadequate and poorly targeted funding for boards of elections to maintain and update lists with all the available information out there.

In other words, if I moved within the past year from one state to another, it’s possible that the board of election in the original state might not update even though I’m now voting in my current state. I’d be registered in both, but with no intention of ever voting there.

That’s the situation facing most people in the nation - it’s not some intention to go and engage in voter fraud, but that the databases aren’t cleared. Heck, Brooklyn tried to clear the voter rolls to address these issues, but did so without following the letter of the law.

After flagging voters who do not cast ballots in two consecutive federal elections, the Board of Elections mails notices to determine whether voters still live at the address where they are registered. If no confirmation comes back, a voter can be deleted from the rolls. Board positions are equally split between Republicans and Democrats; each voter removal must be approved by both a Republican and a Democratic employee, according to the rules.

It remained unclear at what point employees at the Brooklyn office stumbled, or who was at fault. One possibility was that the notices to voters were mailed incorrectly, or not at all. Another was that once the notices were returned, the computerized database that held voter lists was mishandled.

On Thursday, the Board of Elections announced that it had suspended a longtime employee, Diane Haslett-Rudiano, the chief clerk at the Brooklyn office and a Republican appointee. Ms. Haslett-Rudiano’s Democratic counterpart, Betty Ann Canizio, who would, by the rules, be required to sign off on any voter removals, remained in her post. Board officials have declined to say why Ms. Haslett-Rudiano was disciplined, saying at the same time that “no voters were disenfranchised.”

“There was criticism that the voter rolls had people who were dead, and so on,” said Frank Seddio, the chairman of the Brooklyn Democratic Party, who said he had discussed the apparent mistake with Board of Elections officials. “That began a citywide review of who’s on the voter rolls and who should be removed. And there’s a possibility that people were taken off the rolls that shouldn’t have been taken off the rolls.”

In that process, more people were disenfranchised than were legitimately dropped.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:52:37am

re: #529 Targetpractice

This is why the GOP has ceased being a political party and instead become a cult of personality. They never lose legitimately, it’s always through the shadowy machinations of the DNC and its plethora of cheating methods. And when it’s not that, it’s that “true conservatives” stayed home because the candidate wasn’t “conservative enough.” Because they have to keep telling themselves that they’re the true majority in America, that the “center-right” that they keep insisting America is embraces their far-right ideology, and so the only way they can lose is by their refusing to vote.

i would add that it is also the belief that they and only they have “morality (cause it’s not relative and so there’s only one), the right answers, right vision, correct constitutional understandings, ” etc

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:52:54am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

Obama’s Spanish is pretty good. ¡Muy bien hecho!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:54:10am

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks for the assist!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:54:30am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:59:00am

re: #534 FormerDirtDart

I’m sure this is some of the “tougher” policing Trump would be in favor of…

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Inauguration Day celebrations for God Emperor Dump!

Just change the funny little brown guys with sticks out for SovCit posses, AltRight shitapes, and general redneckery.

It can happen here, folks, make no mistake. There are thousands of people just waiting for the armbands to be handed out.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 7:59:11am

Drudge going full metal conspiracy nut:

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:00:44am
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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:00:46am

re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is a concerted effort to wind his watch way up by the time the debate starts.

I approve of this tactic.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:00:52am

re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The WashPost carried an op-ed from her today, which was really sharp. Correctly ties Trump’s fear-mongering, and American institution-degrading to the GOP.

Republican leaders — and even Trump’s running mate — have tried to tiptoe out of the room when Trump makes ever-wilder claims of a rigged election. But as much as these Republicans would like everyone to believe that this is a Trump-only problem, it’s not.

For years, Republican leaders have pushed the lie that voter fraud is a huge issue. In such states as Kansas and North Carolina , and across the airwaves of right-wing talk radio and Fox News, Republican voters have been fed exaggerated and imagined stories about fraud. Interestingly, all that fraud seems to plague only urban neighborhoods, minority communities, college campuses and other places where large numbers of people might vote for Democrats. The purpose of this manufactured hysteria is obvious: to delegitimize Democratic voters and justify Republican efforts to suppress their votes.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:01:23am

re: #535 lawhawk

if you move and want to vote, you have to be proactive and do something

are there any requirements to notify your old jurisdiction that you left it? i’d guess probably not

the problem with “purges” and taking people off by any general sort of metric or sweep process is that inevitably, some valid voters will get knocked off. sure, you can check your registration periodically, and it will get caught the next time you try to vote, and thus likely invalidate that vote….

if only the right to vote was as protected, sacred and creator-given as, well, you know

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:02:55am

re: #541 lawhawk

Drudge going full metal conspiracy nut:

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Had Drudge owned up to his posting the hoax ballot-shredding report?

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:03:36am

re: #546 Sir John Barron

Nope. Just busy dropping the next bit of derp like Trump. Lie, smear, obfuscate, and move on to the next lie.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:04:20am

re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth

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youre losing because youre not getting enough votes
youre not getting enough votes because not enough people want what youre selling

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A wild (((wolfy))) has appeared  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:04:20am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

Very good ad.

I didn’t know Obama could speak Spanish.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:04:22am

re: #546 Sir John Barron

Had Drudge owned up to his posting the hoax ballot-shredding report?

HAHAHAHAhahahaha…oh, you’re serious.

551
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:08:35am
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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:08:54am

Here come the talk of rigged elections and Soros:

Mind you, 30 of 50 state legislatures are GOP controlled, 7 are split, and Democrats control just 12. Nebraska is unicameral with no party affiliation.

Rigged my ass.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:10:20am

re: #552 lawhawk

Here come the talk of rigged elections and Soros:

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Mind you, 30 of 50 state legislatures are GOP controlled, 7 are split, and Democrats control just 12. Nebraska is unicameral with no party affiliation.

Rigged my ass.

SOROS = IT’S THE JOOOOOS!!!

554
Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:11:40am

Yes, Democrats have the electoral system so rigged that they all three branches of the federal government and all 50 states…oh, wait…

555
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:11:41am

The survey, released jointly by the Arizona Republic, Arizona State University’s Morrison Institute for Public Policy and Cronkite News, showed Clinton with the support of 43% of the state’s likely voters, compared with 38% who said they intend to back Trump. Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein picked up the support of 7% and 4%, respectively.

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Sionainn  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:14:28am

re: #387 Archangelus

Lame? That’s downright elegant and beautiful by comparison:

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I think that’s about as equally bad as my city’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:14:40am
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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:14:41am

re: #515 mmmirele

City flag of Mesa, Arizona:

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It was adopted in 2012.

A good chunk of Mesa is on an actual (not very tall) mesa. But you can’t hardly tell any more due to the city being very nearly built out.

ETA: Just some trivia about saguaro cactus. They only grow naturally between 2,000 and 4,000 feet. You can tell when you’re in a higher elevation in this part of Arizona because saguaro will suddenly appear in the landscape. As you climb further up (say, going up the Mogollon Rim to get to Flagstaff), the saguaro stop appearing.

My favorite “trivia” that I was completely aware of…it is possible in Arizona to be absolutely freaking freezing cold - oh, and it snows.

I was in Flagstaff during the winter. Flew into Phoenix, it was 80 degrees. Drove to Flagstaff to work and it was -12 degrees (that’s 12 below zero - or absolutely freaking freezing cold). I was using a credit card to try to get the 1/4” of ice off my windshield. My customer had to come pick me up because I could not thaw out the car that morning. I was there a week…the weather never changed (but I did learn to go downstairs half an hour early to let the defroster in the car thaw out the windshield).

I had no idea Arizona was capable of that kind of cold.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:14:43am

Republicans win mid-term elections with record low turnout: “MANDATE!!!”

Republicans lose presidential election with massive turnout: “FRAUD!!!”

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:15:44am

re: #522 Sir John Barron

Am almost principled-like statement from Rubio. What the hell kind of world has this election created?

He might be relatively principled human…until the election. The Miami Herald endorsed his Dem opponent yesterday.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:16:09am

So much derp from this Trump deplorable. She claims Trump has a great plan to run this country like a business. She claims “no vaccines” as an issue that is most important to her. FFS

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:16:55am

re: #559 Targetpractice

Republicans win mid-term elections with record low turnout: “MANDATE!!!”

Republicans lose presidential election with massive turnout: “FRAUD!!!”

Of course. Only the right people vote in midterms. //

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:17:38am

re: #558 MsJ

My favorite “trivia” that I was completely aware of…it is possible in Arizona to be absolutely freaking freezing cold - oh, and it snows.

I was in Flagstaff during the winter. Flew into Phoenix, it was 80 degrees. Drove to Flagstaff to work and it was -12 degrees (that’s 12 below zero - or absolutely freaking freezing cold). I was using a credit card to try to get the 1/4” of ice off my windshield. My customer had to come pick me up because I could not thaw out the car that morning. I was there a week…the weather never changed (but I did learn to go downstairs half an hour early to let the defroster in the car thaw out the windshield).

I had no idea Arizona was capable of that kind of cold.

It’s the altitude. 6900 ft, which is higher than Denver the Mile High City.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:18:50am
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b.d.  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:20:13am

WHY DON’T THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING THE STATE HOUSES CARE ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING RIGGED!?!?!?! WE MUST VOTE THEM OUT!!!!

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:20:31am

re: #564 FormerDirtDart

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Mask slipped a bit.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:21:07am

re: #557 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The webcast isn’t supposed to start for another 20 minutes. WTH?

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:22:09am

re: #566 Targetpractice

On my Facebook wall there are some who are cheering on the idea that the “crusades” were not bad and that we need to do something similar to defeat Islam.

So no, I’m not sure Kellyanne misspoke.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #564 FormerDirtDart

So, after he deports all the Muslims from the USA (including citizens of the USA), he will then destroy Islam, the faith of more than 1 billion people.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:23:00am

re: #566 Targetpractice

Mask slipped a bit.

Shouldn’t that be a “Five Pillar plan”?

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:25:45am

re: #563 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s the altitude. 6900 ft, which is higher than Denver the Mile High City.

I know that now. I did not at the time. Thankfully, I bought a winter coat when I was in California the week before. The weather reports said Flagstaff was going to be in the 30 degrees range in Flagstaff the following week. I almost went with “layers” (a long sleeve shirt, sweater, lightweight jacket)- at which point I would have frozen to death.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:25:47am

re: #570 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Shouldn’t that be a “Five Pillar plan”?

“That pillar about taking care of the helpless, not so important, in fact we can’t do it, we can’t do it; they gotta help themselves, people…so maybe, maybe four pillars are enough….”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:25:57am

re: #565 b.d.

WHY DON’T THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING THE STATE HOUSES CARE ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING RIGGED!?!?!?! WE MUST VOTE THEM OUT!!!!

THEY GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! LOOK HOW UPPITY THOSE RIGGERS ARE GETTING LATELY!!!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:26:40am

And Trump looks like he is going to find a new low:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:27:00am

So, there’s another debate on tonight, right? I may be able to watch this one live, because I don’t have morning classes tomorrow.

Question is, do I really want to?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:27:08am

re: #542 sagehen

Never forget. There was no movement. The media handed him this on a plate.

Even those statistics do not tell the whole story. I recall last summer, when DT was bragging about how exciting his rallies were while people were falling asleep at Jeb Bush rallies.

Twenty minutes later, CNN was airing an interview with a woman who fell asleep at a Bush rally.

It was as if he was handing them their script and broadcasting schedule.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:27:10am

re: #571 Dr. Matt

From Zombie Breitbart:

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW: New Bill Clinton Sexual Assault Accuser Goes Public for the First Time

Well, that might affect Bill’s getting a third term. /dripping

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:27:20am

re: #571 Dr. Matt

From Zombie Breitbart:

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW: New Bill Clinton Sexual Assault Accuser Goes Public for the First Time

Someone should pull Trump aside and remind him that he’s not running against Bill or Obama.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:28:13am

re: #579 makeitstop

Someone should pull Trump aside and remind him that he’s not running against Bill or Obama.

Nah, let this fool destroy himself.

581
Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:28:30am

re: #575 Dr. Matt

And Trump looks like he is going to find a new low:

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Prediction: They’ve got Bill’s “illegitimate son” on the roster for tonight.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:28:57am
583
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:29:10am

re: #558 MsJ

My favorite “trivia” that I was completely aware of…it is possible in Arizona to be absolutely freaking freezing cold - oh, and it snows.

I was in Flagstaff during the winter. Flew into Phoenix, it was 80 degrees. Drove to Flagstaff to work and it was -12 degrees (that’s 12 below zero - or absolutely freaking freezing cold). I was using a credit card to try to get the 1/4” of ice off my windshield. My customer had to come pick me up because I could not thaw out the car that morning. I was there a week…the weather never changed (but I did learn to go downstairs half an hour early to let the defroster in the car thaw out the windshield).

I had no idea Arizona was capable of that kind of cold.

Yes, I used to live in Flagstaff…amazing place. I looked forward to a good snowstorm that would dump 4-10” overnight, we used to get around town on our cross-country skis.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:29:37am

re: #576 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, there’s another debate on tonight, right? I may be able to watch this one live, because I don’t have morning classes tomorrow.

Question is, do I really want to?

This is Trump’s last chance to change the trajectory of this race, so things might get interesting. I don’t figure even a “win” here will make much difference, but it will be fun to watch.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:29:57am

re: #572 MsJ

I know that now. I did not at the time. Thankfully, I bought a winter coat when I was in California the week before. The weather reports said Flagstaff was going to be in the 30 degrees range in Flagstaff the following week. I almost went with “layers” (a long sleeve shirt, sweater, lightweight jacket)- at which point I would have frozen to death.

I lived in Wyoming for a couple of years. The climate there is similar, because of the dry air and altitude. Toasty warm at midday, bone-chilling cold at night. Plus, the wind.

586
Teukka  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:30:13am

City coats of arms. My city:

Stockholm City/Municipality Coat of Arms
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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:31:03am

re: #581 Targetpractice

Prediction: They’ve got Bill’s “illegitimate son” on the roster for tonight.

Ah! Good call.

588
jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:31:46am

re: #496 MsJ

What is that? And give me the recipe, please!

I call it Cheesesteak Fries. That name draws a lot of complaint from Philly-philes but I just LOL back at them. I like to say the recipe is in the name. Slice some rib eye very thin and cook it with onions. Make a cheese sauce, I go with a roux, stir in milk till it thickens and add cheese. Anything that melts easily. Pile the meat on a bed of french fries and pour on the cheese.

589
bratwurst  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:31:53am

I will be VERY upset if this horrible person is able to “normalize” herself after the election.

590
Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:32:36am

re: #262 Anymouse

Another “pillar of the community” rapist gets virtually no time, this time in Montana:

Of note, the mother’s letter stated that her two sons should not be deprived of their father. (Apparently raping her twelve-year-old daughter doesn’t count here.)

More at: glasgowcourier.com

25 year sentences are reserved for black men smoking weed. And their children don’t need them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:32:50am

re: #572 MsJ

I know that now. I did not at the time. Thankfully, I bought a winter coat when I was in California the week before. The weather reports said Flagstaff was going to be in the 30 degrees range in Flagstaff the following week. I almost went with “layers” (a long sleeve shirt, sweater, lightweight jacket)- at which point I would have frozen to death.

Layers are necessary, even in the summer, it can get up to over 90° during the day and be down into the 50’s at night.

592
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:36:30am
593
BeachDem  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:36:39am

These two stories placed next to each other on Raw Story made me laugh.

Kasich drops the hammer on Trump: Rigged election talk is like ‘saying we never landed on the moon’

Trump advisor Roger Stone promotes moon landing hoax: Video was shot in a warehouse in NJ

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plansbandc  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:37:01am

I knew a very simple beagle with the most vacant look. The look in SMOTI’s eyes is quite similar.

595
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:37:54am
596
Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:38:02am

re: #589 bratwurst

I will be VERY upset if this horrible person is able to “normalize” herself after the election.

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It looks like Trump is running against Obama and Bill Clinton. Give Trump credit, he’s denying both of them a third term.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:39:06am
598
dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:39:18am

re: #582 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump advisor Roger Stone promotes moon landing hoax: Video was shot in a warehouse in NJ

great idea for a movie…

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:39:53am

re: #575 Dr. Matt

And Trump looks like he is going to find a new low:

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Trump really views his presidential run as some kind of reality show where drama, controversy and “reveals” will win him the day. He may get ratings but I really don’t think he realizes just how bad this looks - even to most republicans. His making a mockery of the office of POTUS is not going to end well for him - and I think it will haunt his businesses for a long time to come.

At least I hope it harms his businesses…he deserves that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:40:40am

re: #592 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s got a significant lead in both the popular and electoral vote, is enjoying enormous popularity, BUT she is the one who has to win big in the debates.

Yeah, absolutely no double standard at all./////

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:40:56am

re: #584 Targetpractice

This is Trump’s last chance to change the trajectory of this race, so things might get interesting. I don’t figure even a “win” here will make much difference, but it will be fun to watch.

ie - lose by less

602
Pawn of the Oppressor  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:41:00am

Trump’s “best people”* deny the Moon Landing. Kansas cites Dredd Scott.

I just facepalmed so hard, I time-travelled.

* My former co-irker/Hillary Hater/Trumpite FB friend insisted once in conversation that even if Trump didn’t know anything, he’d surround himself with great people who would manage things well. This came from a guy who’s entire ethos is to deny the ability of people in groups to manage anything well at all…

603
MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:41:06am

re: #579 makeitstop

Someone should pull Trump aside and remind him that he’s not running against Bill or Obama.

Or not. :-)

604
7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:42:08am

Ann Arbor

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:42:46am

re: #588 jeffreyw

I call it Cheesesteak Fries. That name draws a lot of complaint from Philly-philes but I just LOL back at them. I like to say the recipe is in the name. Slice some rib eye very thin and cook it with onions. Make a cheese sauce, I go with a roux, stir in milk till it thickens and add cheese. Anything that melts easily. Pile the meat on a bed of french fries and pour on the cheese.

my arteries clogged up just reading that

if i went now i would go happy….

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:43:22am

re: #588 jeffreyw

I call it Cheesesteak Fries. That name draws a lot of complaint from Philly-philes but I just LOL back at them. I like to say the recipe is in the name. Slice some rib eye very thin and cook it with onions. Make a cheese sauce, I go with a roux, stir in milk till it thickens and add cheese. Anything that melts easily. Pile the meat on a bed of french fries and pour on the cheese.

That one is on the menu. Thanks!

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:44:03am

re: #599 MsJ

Trump really views his presidential run as some kind of reality show where drama, controversy and “reveals” will win him the day. He may get ratings but I really don’t think he realizes just how bad this looks - even to most republicans. His making a mockery of the office of POTUS is not going to end well for him - and I think it will haunt his businesses for a long time to come.

At least I hope it harms his businesses…he deserves that.

Trump doesn’t quite get that the whole “run an election like a season of The Apprentice” doesn’t work, especially when he’s not the guy making the final cut, the voters are. And unlike most “reality TV,” this election is not scripted for a “big reveal” that will save his ass from the fire at the last minute. Come Nov 8th, he’s the guy who’s going to be told “You’re Fired.”

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:44:32am

re: #589 bratwurst

I will be VERY upset if this horrible person is able to “normalize” herself after the election.

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Conway: Obama’s half-brother invited to debate because ‘we’re inclusive’

does he make like their third african-american?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:44:33am

re: #589 bratwurst

Conway: Obama’s half-brother invited to debate because ‘we’re inclusive’ politico.com | AP Photo pic.twitter.com
— POLITICO

Conway misspelled ‘we’re a ridiculous campaign and we’re insane’.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:45:41am

re: #584 Targetpractice

This is Trump’s last chance to change the trajectory of this race, so things might get interesting. I don’t figure even a “win” here will make much difference, but it will be fun to watch.

I know that nothing will be served by me watching this debate.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:45:42am

re: #592 Backwoods_Sleuth

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she could “literally” sit there and concede all her time and she’d still win (the election)

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iossarian  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:45:50am

re: #604 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Ann Arbor - great place. Geneva coat of arms FTW though.

Geneva
613
Interesting Times  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:46:10am

Holy frickfrack:

And the tweeter’s name in this context couldn’t be more apropos :)

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:46:53am

re: #596 Dr. Matt

It looks like Trump is running against Obama and Bill Clinton. Give Trump credit, he’s denying both of them a third term.

maybe he doesnt know who he’s running against

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iossarian  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:47:10am

re: #613 Interesting Times

Holy frickfrack:

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And the tweeter’s name in this context couldn’t be more apropos :)

GOP quivering like jelly in KY :)

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:47:25am

Trolling this form should be fun

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:47:57am

re: #611 dangerman

she could “literally” sit there and concede all her time and she’d still win (the election)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:48:26am

re: #612 iossarian

Ann Arbor - great place. Geneva coat of arms FTW though.

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Coat of arms of Kladno, Czech Republic:

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:49:30am

re: #609 Sir John Barron

Conway misspelled ‘we’re a ridiculous campaign and we’re insane’.

+5 (or so)

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:50:25am

re: #607 Targetpractice

Trump doesn’t quite get that the whole “run an election like a season of The Apprentice” doesn’t work, especially when he’s not the guy making the final cut, the voters are. And unlike most “reality TV,” this election is not scripted for a “big reveal” that will save his ass from the fire at the last minute. Come Nov 8th, he’s the guy who’s going to be told “You’re Fired.”

What I wouldn’t give to hear Hillary say that once she has won (please God, please, please, please). I mean, seriously, I would pay money to see that.

621
Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:50:41am

If I were Hillary this is how tonight would go:
Trump: Wikileaks
Hillary: You didn’t pay federal taxes for 20 years. While you claim to have made billions you contributed nothing to the government. Nothing to vets, nothing to help anyone nothing but helping yourself and your family.

Trump: Benghazi
Hillary: You dogged the draft 6 times with bone spurs and never had surgery to fix it. While brave Americans gave everything for this country you did nothing for it and now 50 years later you disparage Gold star families and war heroes. Any normal person would be ashamed to stand where you are right now and not get on their knees to thank public servants like senator McCain and myself.

Trump: email
Hillary: You have given voice to some of the worst racists in our country and openly called for the insane plans to build a wall along our border and to ban people entry to our country based on religious beliefs. Have you ever read our constitution or even have any actual knowledge of the laws this nation is built upon?

Trump: Clean out the swamp
Hillary: The first person I would want out of the swamp is a sexual predator and racist like yourself. By the way Melania if you need help getting out of an abusive relationship you can leave here tonight with me.

And on I would go were I her. I wouldn’t respond to one thing he brings up or even questions from Wallace with slamming Trump with all of the worst stuff he brought up in the last year or 30.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:51:05am

re: #600 Targetpractice

It’s no longer in doubt or about Clinton winning, but whether she can run up the score.

Right.

Of course, the issue isn’t as much whether Clinton wins, but whether Democrats can retake the Senate and/or House. The Senate is still likely to go Democrat, but it’s far less likely the House flips.

623
ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:52:14am

re: #493 Nyet

I know I’m entering the tin foil territory, and I’m not making a positive claim, but this Foval dude’s busing in story is so wild that he almost looks like a double agent who was paid by O’Keefe (and yes, he had a long’ish Dem career). Probably just an inveterate, ahem, story-teller though.

I’m with you. I watched that bit last night and thought it looked like the Veritas dude asking the questions originally asked (off camera) if they could kick around ideas to cheat the vote and once they got to the how it could possibly be done the camera was on and away we went.

And yes, he seemed like a bullshitter willing to run his mouth.

It all seemed impractical, expensive and hard to keep the numbers of people involved in line.

624
iossarian  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:52:29am

re: #616 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I voted!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:52:36am

re: #613 Interesting Times

I would honestly be found unconscious on the floor if KY went blue, especially if worthless Rand Paul lost his Senate seat. It’s beyond my comprehension.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:54:07am

re: #622 lawhawk

It’s no longer in doubt or about Clinton winning, but whether she can run up the score.

Right.

Of course, the issue isn’t as much whether Clinton wins, but whether Democrats can retake the Senate and/or House. The Senate is still likely to go Democrat, but it’s far less likely the House flips.

I hope people don’t split the ticket.

627
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:54:12am

re: #622 lawhawk

It’s no longer in doubt or about Clinton winning, but whether she can run up the score.

Right.

Of course, the issue isn’t as much whether Clinton wins, but whether Democrats can retake the Senate and/or House. The Senate is still likely to go Democrat, but it’s far less likely the House flips.

‘The panic is beginning’: GOP strategist Steve Schmidt predicts Election Day disaster for Republicans

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:54:12am
629
Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:54:38am

re: #582 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump advisor Roger Stone promotes moon landing hoax: Video was shot in a warehouse in NJ

Hillary’s media folk need to be all over that.

630
dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:55:06am

re: #622 lawhawk

It’s no longer in doubt or about Clinton winning, but whether she can run up the score.

Right.

Of course, the issue isn’t as much whether Clinton wins, but whether Democrats can retake the Senate and/or House. The Senate is still likely to go Democrat, but it’s far less likely the House flips.

and the headlines are already written for if she wins and doesnt “run up the score” enough

631
Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:55:21am

re: #617 sagehen

Meanwhile, in a last ditch effort to eek out an even bigger lead over her rival, HRC has arranged for Donald Trump to be at the next debate.
— Conor Friedersdorf

Grade A+ shade

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iossarian  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:55:25am

1. Secretary of State

Some white guy Donald Trump met on a plane last week.

2. Attorney General

Some white guy Donald Trump once used to sue someone.

3. Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Some white guy with a camo baseball hat.

4. Secretary of Homeland Security

Some white guy with those mirror shades and a buzz cut.

5. Secretary of Defense

Some other white guy with a buzz cut. Do we know enough military people? Remember to ask Cory.

6. Secretary of Treasury

Some white guy who’s worked for a bank.

7. Secretary of Labor

Some white guy who’s worked for a bank. Can’t be the same person as Treasury! But maybe they know each other already, that would help.

8. Secretary of Energy

Some energetic white guy.

9. Secretary of Health and Human Services

Some Latino woman. Maybe transgender so she gets that aspect of health too. Just kidding! Some straight white guy.

10. Chief of Staff

Trump offspring.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:56:03am

re: #630 dangerman

and the headlines are already written for if she wins and doesnt “run up the score” enough

and expect impeachment proceedings to begin as soon as the polls close on the West coast…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:56:25am

re: #629 Shiplord Kirel

Hillary’s media folk need to be all over that.

Nah, they just need Buzz Aldrin to chime in. Or maybe just deck Stone with a right cross.

635
A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:56:56am

re: #632 iossarian

1. Secretary of State

Some white guy Donald Trump met on a plane last week.

2. Attorney General

Some white guy Donald Trump once used to sue someone.

3. Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Some white guy with a camo baseball hat.

4. Secretary of Homeland Security

Some white guy with those mirror shades and a buzz cut.

5. Secretary of Defense

Some other white guy with a buzz cut. Do we know enough military people? Remember to ask Cory.

6. Secretary of Treasury

Some white guy who’s worked for a bank.

7. Secretary of Labor

Some white guy who’s worked for a bank. Can’t be the same person as Treasury! But maybe they know each other already, that would help.

8. Secretary of Energy

Some energetic white guy.

9. Secretary of Health and Human Services

Some Latino woman. Maybe transgender so she gets that aspect of health too. Just kidding! Some straight white guy.

10. Chief of Staff

Trump offspring.

I voted for Harambe for every position.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:56:56am

I really do wonder how Rinsed is going to manage to keep his job after Nov 8th if he loses both the White House and the Senate. Steele got shit-canned even after he oversaw the 2010 “wave” election because he had the nerve to backtalk Limbaugh, while Rinsed will have overseen two presidential losses and lost the Senate 2 years after the GOP retook it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:57:48am

re: #636 Targetpractice

I really do wonder how Rinsed is going to manage to keep his job after Nov 8th if he loses both the White House and the Senate. Steele got shit-canned even after he oversaw the 2010 “wave” election because he had the nerve to backtalk Limbaugh, while Rinsed will have overseen two presidential losses and lost the Senate 2 years after the GOP retook it.

He will most likely be able to keep the job because nobody else wants it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:58:01am

re: #630 dangerman

and the headlines are already written for if she wins and doesnt “run up the score” enough

Ayep. “Hillary Clinton Underperforms, Fails To Win All 50 States.”

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:58:40am

re: #633 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and expect impeachment proceedings to begin as soon as the polls close on the West coast…

maybe not
they might wait till after theyve exhausted all the “contesting the vote” possibilities

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:59:06am

re: #636 Targetpractice

I really do wonder how Rinsed is going to manage to keep his job after Nov 8th if he loses both the White House and the Senate. Steele got shit-canned even after he oversaw the 2010 “wave” election because he had the nerve to backtalk Limbaugh, while Rinsed will have overseen two presidential losses and lost the Senate 2 years after the GOP retook it.

If that comes to pass, Reince will likely face some kind of putsch and he’ll be out on his ass by Monday, November 14th.

641
Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 8:59:09am

re: #634 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Nah, they just need Buzz Aldrin to chime in. Or maybe just deck Stone with a right cross.

642
dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:00:27am

re: #636 Targetpractice

I really do wonder how Rinsed is going to manage to keep his job after Nov 8th if he loses both the White House and the Senate. Steele got shit-canned even after he oversaw the 2010 “wave” election because he had the nerve to backtalk Limbaugh, while Rinsed will have overseen two presidential losses and lost the Senate 2 years after the GOP retook it.

first to an AA and then to a woman

643
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:01:10am
644
lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:02:23am

This is all to create a list that they can turn around and sell. *facepalm*

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:02:37am

re: #638 Targetpractice

Ayep. “Hillary Clinton Underperforms, Fails To Win All 50 States.”

“dems take senate by only 2 seats. not a mandate!”

646
MsJ  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:04:00am

re: #616 A wild WITHAK appeared!

This is mine….

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

647
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:04:32am

citing Wikipedia and Zero Hedge…

My shocked face.

648
Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:04:50am

re: #643 Backwoods_Sleuth

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SEE WHAT YOU MADE US DO!!!!

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:06:13am

Olbermann takes the case straight to Trump supporters…

Not that it’ll help or anything.

650
lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:07:12am
651
Teukka  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:07:13am

Sanity break:
Angry elk chases Swede up a lamp post
Pics and video at aftonbladet.se

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:08:10am

re: #651 Teukka

Sanity break:
Angry elk chases Swede up a lamp post
Pics and video at aftonbladet.se

The Angry Elk would be a good name for a pub.

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:09:36am

re: #649 makeitstop

Olbermann takes the case straight to Trump supporters…

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Not that it’ll help or anything.

Yeah condescension rarely changes minds.

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TedStriker  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:10:32am

I’m a bit late to the city flag party today, but here’s mine:

Yes, the Native American in our city seal is holding a human skull, a la Hamlet. That said, it’s still an improvement over the visual mess that was the pre-Metro city flag that was in use before 1964:

nashville.gov

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:11:49am

re: #653 danarchy

Yeah condescension rarely changes minds.

I didn’t find it the least bit condescending. He’s (again) pointing out that Trump’s past behavior is a damned good indicator of future performance.

Trump supporters won’t listen to him because they don’t want to hear it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:12:20am
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Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:12:25am

re: #575 Dr. Matt

And Trump looks like he is going to find a new low:

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Charles C. Johnson wearing his Pepe suit?

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:12:29am

re: #486 No Depression

I don’t love their football team, the Ravens, but I love their logo.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:14:32am

re: #651 Teukka

Sanity break:
Angry elk chases Swede up a lamp post
Pics and video at aftonbladet.se

Yes, but did the elk bite someone’s sister?

/

660
Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:15:01am

re: #610 Sir John Barron

I know that nothing will be served by me watching this debate.

It’s always possible that Trump will slam into the wall and go cartwheeling in flames while his tires spin into the helpless spectators.

661
Teukka  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:15:15am

re: #659 Targetpractice

Yes, but did the elk bite someone’s sister?

/

Not known so far. Might change /

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:16:12am

re: #655 makeitstop

I didn’t find it the least bit condescending. He’s (again) pointing out that Trump’s past behavior is a damned good indicator of future performance.

Trump supporters won’t listen to him because they don’t want to hear it.

Sorry he comes off condescending as hell to me. I may be biased because I can’t stand the man in general.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:16:36am

re: #660 Decatur Deb

It’s always possible that Trump will slam into the wall and go cartwheeling in flames while his tires spin into the helpless spectators.

Heh, what a perfect analogy, the presidential debates as NASCAR races. You don’t watch for the race, you watch for the crashes.

664
Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:17:13am

re: #463 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I didn’t know Seattle had a flag (I knew about the seal in the middle), but this is revolting.

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Should have used the Starbucks logo.

665
lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:18:14am

These statements are both true because if the probably of post-election violence isn’t zero, then we have far too much violence, and we can thank the GOP and Trump for it.

666
Teukka  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:18:28am

re: #660 Decatur Deb

It’s always possible that Trump will slam into the wall and go cartwheeling in flames while his tires spin into the helpless spectators.

My analogy of choice is “attempting to use the traction feed lines at an electrified railway as a trapeze.”

667
Skip Intro  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:18:54am

re: #616 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Trolling this form should be fun

The left off Secretary of State Police.

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carey94tt  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:19:37am

dictionary.com

Note the origin of the word.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:20:51am

re: #665 lawhawk

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These statements are both true because if the probably of post-election violence isn’t zero, then we have far too much violence, and we can thank the GOP and Trump for it.

I believe there will be during-election violence in many places around the country. These people are crazy, and they’re getting crazier all the time.

670
Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:22:04am

re: #669 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I believe there will be during-election violence in many places around the country. These people are crazy, and they’re getting crazier all the time.

I suspect there will be violence as “poll watchers” get belligerent and start trying to “enforce” the law.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:22:09am

re: #669 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I believe there will be during-election violence in many places around the country. These people are crazy, and they’re getting crazier all the time.

They’re wound up to fever pitch already.

672
Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:24:26am

So, here’s the Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 teaser poster.

i.reddituploads.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:24:43am

re: #669 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I believe there will be during-election violence in many places around the country. These people are crazy, and they’re getting crazier all the time.

re: #670 Targetpractice

I suspect there will be violence as “poll watchers” get belligerent and start trying to “enforce” the law.

Probably no more than an average weekday. If they can’t wear their hoods or ninja cammies, they’ll be pretty calm.

674
freetoken  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:24:57am

re: #650 lawhawk

Mini-Drumpf is a disaster exactly because he has fervid followers to make him think he is loved by everyone.

675
Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:25:06am

re: #504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“What state has the longest name?” It was fun to watch people mentally counting the letters in “Mississippi” and “Massachusetts”.

Old sing-along cartoon had this refrain, “M-I-S—-S-I-S—-S-I-P-P-I!”.

676
ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:25:31am

re: #593 BeachDem

These two stories placed next to each other on Raw Story made me laugh.

Kasich drops the hammer on Trump: Rigged election talk is like ‘saying we never landed on the moon’

Trump advisor Roger Stone promotes moon landing hoax: Video was shot in a warehouse in NJ

Ohio Johnny has to back his boy Jon Husted. If there was a Democrat as Secretary of State and a Democrat majority in the Ohio Senate it would be a huge problem!

677
Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:27:36am

Salem, Massachusetts:

678
Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:28:14am
679
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:29:38am

Midnight + 30 here in the Middle Kingdom. See you all later, perhaps during the debate commentary here.

680
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:32:12am
681
BeachDem  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:32:52am

re: #677 Sherlock Hound

Salem, Massachusetts:

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And as elaborate as that one is, ours is pretty simple.

682
Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:36:31am

My teeth hurt just watching this…….

683
retired cynic  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:37:59am

OT, and especially for CL and others:

aramcoworld.com

The article is dandy, and the video is only about 5 minutes long, and quite nice.

684
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:38:03am
685
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:39:05am

Well, it looks like the Trace Gas Orbiter braked into a good orbit, but nothing from the Schiaparelli lander….

686
Shiplord Kirel  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:42:18am

My county seat, Palo Pinto Texas (pop 425), does not have a city flag because it is not officially a city. Instead, our striking Moderne style courthouse (built in 1940) sits almost by itself in the middle of nowhere. There are also associated offices for lawyers and bail bondsmen, a dollar store, a post office, a gas station, and a smattering of houses.

687
lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:45:21am

For those who can’t read the tweet, that is reporter Olivia Nuzzi responding to an email by Katrina Pierson, Trump spokeshack, where Pierson demands an apology for claiming that Pierson is a 9/11 troofer.

Nuzzi responds with Pierson’s tweet from a few years back wondering if 9/11 was an inside job.

688
Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:45:22am

re: #684 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They said the same thing before the second debate, that he needed to staunch the bleeding and possibly begin to make up ground. He did neither and only furthered the decline.

689
Le Lapin Tueur  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:46:57am

re: #678 Dave In Austin

I’d put one of those in my yard.

690
dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:47:23am

alas seal only , no flag

691
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:50:13am
692
Kilroy was here  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:50:35am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:50:49am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:52:47am
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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:52:48am

Trump campaign honcho Conway lets slip Trump’s true agenda - clash of civilizations and war with Islam. Can’t wait to hear the spin on this from the Islamophobes if and when Trump walks that bit back.

696
lawhawk  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:55:24am
697
Kaessa  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:56:53am

Ballot mailed.

698
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:57:40am
699
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:59:06am
700
Interesting Times  Oct 19, 2016 • 9:59:52am

re: #698 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did you see my 613?

701
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:00:53am

This is utter bullshit. “The Left” were pointing out anti-Semitism on the far right while Baby Whiplash was still having a bromance with Milo.

702
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:02:08am

WHOOPS! There it is:
Baby Whiplash wants to ride the Trump Train even if it’s in the cattle car.

703
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:02:56am

re: #700 Interesting Times

Did you see my 613?

yep. Pretty sure Kentucky won’t flip, but stranger things are possible.

704
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:03:23am
705
Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:04:10am

re: #704 Backwoods_Sleuth

John McCain’s tire swing.

706
Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:05:14am

re: #698 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everything I hear about Jill Stein in this election keeps leading me to believe she’s a Russian plant.

707
Jay C  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:06:19am

re: #699 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I realize this is probably a loaded question, but - even though this Robert Creamer story seems originate with a Breitbart alumnus, and is therefore overwhelmingly likely to be utter bullshit - is there any even remote connection to reality in it?

708
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:06:48am
709
ObserverArt  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:06:57am

When I grew up we had to watch for a “red under every bed” now we have to watch for a fraudulent democratic voter in every tweet.

Times change!

710
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:08:41am

re: #707 Jay C

I realize this is probably a loaded question, but - even though this Robert Creamer story seems originate with a Breitbart alumnus, and is therefore overwhelmingly likely to be utter bullshit - is there any even remote connection to reality in it?

Any connection with reality?
It originated with O’Keefe’s latest “bombshell” video and Breitbart picked it up from there.

711
dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:09:30am

re: #708 Backwoods_Sleuth

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they’re going to attack trump by asking questions

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:10:54am

re: #708 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’ve fallen off a cliff but are telling everyone that where ever they are is the ground. The mountain is just rising instead.

713
b.d.  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:12:46am

re: #708 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“The Frog People” I love it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:15:36am

re: #704 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really wish they’d make up their minds. They snickered and jeered that she was keeping the media at arms-length, now they’re sneering that she’s buddies with the media.

715
gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:16:06am
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Jay C  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:00am

re: #710 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any connection with reality?
It originated with O’Keefe’s latest “bombshell” video and Breitbart picked it up from there.

Well, like I said, utter bullshit: but I was wondering why “Robert Creamer”? “O’Keefe just pull a name off the Internet at random (by googling “voter fraud”, no doubt)? And are White House “visitor logs” public info?

717
gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:01am
718
gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:26am
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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:31am

re: #698 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stein has been running for one office or another for years. But she still insists she’s not a politician.

720
gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:50am
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:18:57am

re: #717 gocart mozart

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that one’s a winner every time i see it

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Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:19:15am

re: #684 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, bringing Benghazi mom and Obama’s Hamas-supporting half brother sound like attempts to carry out this advice.
/

723
b.d.  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:19:42am

Who is HRC inviting to the debate?

A lifesize, shirtless cardboard Putin?

724
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:19:47am

re: #722 Sir John Barron

Well, bringing Benghazi mom and Obama’s Hamas-supporting half brother sound like attempts to carry out this advice.
/

And Wayne Newton, too!

725
The Vicious Babushka  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:19:50am
726
gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:19:59am
727
Sir John Barron  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:20:17am

re: #699 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s the bullshit story here?

728
gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:21:28am

Howard Stern does not have Trump’s back.

729
Alephnaught  Oct 19, 2016 • 10:25:22am

Interesting to see al the city flag’s in the thread! My home city of Glasgow doesn’t have a flag, but it does have a coat of arms, which depicts four stories about it’s patron saint, St Mungo aka St Kentigern.

Image: tgsa05045_m.jpg

More information about those four stories here.


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