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1
Joe Bacon  May 17, 2017 • 9:53:01pm

Beautiful music. Thank you, Charles for posting these great music clips!

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piratedan  May 17, 2017 • 9:53:31pm

I know that its entirely too early to speculate, but does anyone else feel good about the fact that they appointed Mueller, who actually seems like the kind of guy who is above reproach?

I mean Comey was a sanctimonious twit, who appeared to suffer from CDS… whereas I do not get that vibe from Mueller, can he be trusted to actually see this through…

I’m almost afraid of what he’ll find, I mean what if he does find and confirm that our current President was bought and subborned? What if the GOP was actually complicit and colluded with a foreign power?

What kind of political shitshow will we be watching unfold here? I always considered Republicans misguided and at times, venal. What happens if their entire party apparatus is infested with grifters and foreign agents who no more adhere to any political advocacy other than the desire to seize and wield power?

How the fuck do we talk millions of Americans off their ledges when its revealed that the GOP is nothing more than one big fucking con?

While I want the GOP to pay for their misdeeds (if they can be proven and brought to justice) but that also doesn’t mean that I am not still scared shitless for the future.

Really feel like we’re thru the looking glass here…

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freetoken  May 17, 2017 • 9:56:25pm

re: #2 piratedan

Conceptually, Trump can run out the clock. He was never going to be more than a one-term President anyway, given his age and condition.

Mueller may well uncover wrongdoing all over the place, but it will take time.

I think mostly what will be found is gross negligence on the part of Trump, in that he didn’t care at all about the qualifications of the people he chose.

Now, somewhere deep under the rug, there could be some nasty stuff on Trump himself… but I don’t know if Mueller will ever be able to get to it before the clock runs down.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2017 • 9:57:39pm
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William Lewis  May 17, 2017 • 10:00:12pm

re: #2 piratedan

Let’s put it like this, a bug out bag (3 months+ of any meds you take), your preferred time and hand gun, adequate ammo, bed roll and as much rations and water as possible per person in your house makes a good auto trunk load IMO.

It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

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freetoken  May 17, 2017 • 10:00:32pm

re: #2 piratedan

How the fuck do we talk millions of Americans off their ledges when its revealed that the GOP is nothing more than one big fucking con?

Already, and for quite some time, Americans by the millions have used their dissonance to embrace well known cons, mostly of the religious type. Benny Hinn has followers still, so do thousands of his colleagues.

We humans are good at choosing fantasy over reality.

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goddamnedfrank  May 17, 2017 • 10:07:12pm

For your pollfucking pleasure:

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goddamnedfrank  May 17, 2017 • 10:09:45pm
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teleskiguy  May 17, 2017 • 10:12:44pm
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teleskiguy  May 17, 2017 • 10:16:11pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Indoor skiing. I’ve been skiing pretty much my whole life. I have a really hard time conceptualizing something like that. And yet, it’s a thing.

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teleskiguy  May 17, 2017 • 10:21:19pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

I said something to Chris Cillizza on Twitter not too long ago, Alouette thought for sure I’d be put in Twitter time out.

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Kragar  May 17, 2017 • 10:24:59pm
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The Major  May 17, 2017 • 10:33:57pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 17, 2017 • 10:34:04pm

re: #12 Kragar

Other than…between a quarter and a half of the politicians that ever served in the Soviet Union?

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goddamnedfrank  May 17, 2017 • 10:35:29pm

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

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goddamnedfrank  May 17, 2017 • 10:43:44pm

Unreal.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2017 • 10:56:39pm

Imagine my shock that a devotee of Crazy Uncle Liberty I’m acquainted with who spent years celebrating the causes of any “whistleblower” who brought information embarrassing to the Obama administration to the press’ attention…suddenly has an issue with telling the press that Trump gave foreign intel to the Russians and is absolutely sure that Russia is not our enemy.

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Kragar  May 17, 2017 • 11:03:03pm
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The Major  May 17, 2017 • 11:09:57pm

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2017 • 11:10:32pm

This picture is just too good not to use again:

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teleskiguy  May 17, 2017 • 11:17:55pm

If it’s true that Fuckface Von Clownstick appointed David Clarke to a post in the Department of Homeland Security, then fuck me in the ass and call me Susan.

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Anymouse  May 17, 2017 • 11:27:31pm

(Twitter thread, seventy-six tweets)

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Pineapple Pizza  May 17, 2017 • 11:30:48pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy  May 17, 2017 • 11:31:31pm

re: #22 Anymouse

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(Twitter thread, seventy-six tweets)

I guess these days they call these kinds of lengthy Twitter threads “game theory.”

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The Major  May 17, 2017 • 11:43:01pm

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Kragar  May 17, 2017 • 11:44:19pm
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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 12:01:37am

New LGF Page: Poor Sean Hannity….

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Targetpractice  May 18, 2017 • 12:33:24am

All these Republicans suddenly singing the praises of Mueller are so hilarious. 24 hours ago, they didn’t think we needed a special counsel, now suddenly think Mueller’s gonna sweep in and vindicate them.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 12:33:40am

Fuck. We are going to end up fighting the RWNJs in the streets and the depraved bastards are going to bring in Russian gangs/mercenaries/contractors and other disguised troops to help them.
This can’t be like the first civil war, there has to be some serious payback this time, “national reconciliation” be damned. If surviving wingnuts don’t like it, they can follow their friends back to Russia.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 12:42:58am

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

Fuck. We are going to end up fighting the RWNJs in the streets and the depraved bastards are going to bring in Russian gangs/mercenaries/contractors and other disguised troops to help them.
This can’t be like the first civil war, there has to be some serious payback this time, “national reconciliation” be damned. If surviving wingnuts don’t like it, they can follow their friends back to Russia.

On the bright side, a meal teamer I know told me that artillery is obsolete because it is crew served and snipers can easily pick off the crews. He says the same about armored vehicles, the troops have to get out eventually and the snipers can get them when they do. He has never been in the military.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:49:32am

Off-topic: I received my public water system operator’s licence from the state in the mail. I can now legally run a small town or village public water system anywhere in the state.

Will the village pay me for this service? Of course not. (No matter what a village trustee does here, you don’t get paid. Penalty of public service.) The village will reimburse me the cost of my licence (the village already reimbursed my school and examination).

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 1:09:53am

This is great. Trump burned the most important intel source the West has inside ISIS and McMaster, being so fundamentally ignorant with regards to counter terrorism operations that he didn’t recognize the danger managed to destroyed his own credibility in trying to cover up for his boss.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:13:58am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

This is great. Trump burned the most important intel source the West has inside ISIS and McMaster, being so fundamentally ignorant with regards to counter terrorism operations that he didn’t recognize the danger managed to destroyed his own credibility in trying to cover up for his boss.

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Well, I think we’ve adequately proved that putting a businessman in charge of the government is not such a great idea.

I’ve been watching The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC’s Website. That interview with Dan Rather was quite revealing.

The discussion about the special counsel with the person who wrote the regulation was also quite revealing and ominous: Donald Trump could fire Mueller. He speculated if that happened, his opinion would be the likely fall of the government.

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Fineday  May 18, 2017 • 1:15:03am

John Cornell has died suddenly shortly after finishing a gig in Detroit.

No word yet on the cause of death.

RIP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 1:15:44am

re: #34 Anymouse

Well, I think we’ve adequately proved that putting a businessman clueless, pompous, self-serving idiot and reality TV star in charge of the government is not such a great idea.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:22:04am

Not sure how reliable these folks are:

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:04am

The mood in Tel Aviv today is grim. There is a realization that the life of an Israeli agent might be in danger.

Former members of the intelligence services are angry. No one except the professionals running the agent knows if he is a local who was turned, or an operative operating undercover. But everyone hopes he has been successfully extricated.

Why? Because by all accounts, even his own Twitter feed, President Donald Trump shared information about ISIS activities that had heretofore been secret. Various sources have confirmed that this intelligence was given to the United States by Israel and that information was considered highly secret and not to be shared with any other intelligence agencies.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:24:37am

Well, I got done a little while ago chopping up the asparagus I cut down tonight with a scythe. (A scythe cuts through asparagus stalks like a laser.)

We have about two pounds of chopped asparagus. So, tomorrow is bacon-wrapped asparagus, later cream of asparagus, after that asparagus surprise, then surprise asparagus again …

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:25:58am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

And the Republican’s favourite nation is Israel. Yet they still fiddle while the world burns. Is power that important to them that if they can’t have it, no one can?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 1:27:33am

re: #39 Anymouse

Well, I got done a little while ago chopping up the asparagus I cut down tonight with a scythe. (A scythe cuts through asparagus stalks like a laser.)

We have about two pounds of chopped asparagus. So, tomorrow is bacon-wrapped asparagus, later cream of asparagus, after that asparagus surprise, then surprise asparagus again …

Germans are crazy for white asparagus (same plant, just grown in earth berms and harvested before it pops into the sunlight). This is the prime season for it, it grows all over the region and there are stands on roadsides and street corners everywhere vending it.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 1:27:51am

re: #37 Anymouse

That sounds like an educated guess at this point. Every three or so days, it seems like a worse revelation than the one before it comes out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 1:29:18am

re: #40 Anymouse

And the Republican’s favourite nation is Israel. Yet they still fiddle while the world burns. Is power that important to them that if they can’t have it, no one can?

Remember that a lot of Republicans do not care a bit about Israel or the Jews, they just need a resurgent Israel with Jerusalem as its capital in order to see their Biblical End Times prophecies fulfilled and precipitate the Second Coming.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:20am

Spelling. Hey, it’s not rocket surgery

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:43am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germans are crazy for white asparagus (same plant, just grown in earth berms and harvested before it pops into the sunlight). This is the prime season for it, it grows all over the region and there are stands on roadsides and street corners everywhere vending it.

My wife came up with purple asparagus (that’s what we have planted here).

It’s actually green, but the tips turn purple. Very good though if you like asparagus.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:33:12am

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel

Thor Mossle?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:59am

re: #42 Apocalypse

That sounds like an educated guess at this point. Every three or so days, it seems like a worse revelation than the one before it comes out.

There were three breaking stories during Rachel Maddow’s show.

The centrifugal force is going to throw everyone into the ocean things are spinning so fast. (Well, maybe not me because I live in the centre of the merry-go-round.)

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 1:39:31am

DPRK, not fake news; better-than-real news:

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 1:50:50am

re: #34 Anymouse

Well, I think we’ve adequately proved that putting a businessman in charge of the government is not such a great idea.

The only businessman I’d trust to be in charge of the government is Mike Bloomberg. (and that confidence… is based largely on he proved himself as an excellent NYC mayor. Which, unlike other cities or states, also includes an overseas counter-terrorism unit.).

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:18am

re: #49 sagehen

The only businessman I’d trust to be in charge of the government is Mike Bloomberg. (and that confidence… is based largely on he proved himself as an excellent NYC mayor. Which, unlike other cities or states, also includes an overseas counter-terrorism unit.).

I’m guessing after Mr. Trump’s stunt in the Oval Office, New York City’s counterterrorism group might find it harder to find people willing to share info with them.

If you were a foreigner, would you want to share any information with the USA at this point?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:57:16am
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:59:15am
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Single-handed sailor  May 18, 2017 • 2:03:11am

re: #51 Anymouse

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Hmmmm, President Ryan. Oh sweet meteorite of death.

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William Lewis  May 18, 2017 • 2:04:21am

Sigh. Still searching for a bank that will do start up biz loans but had it get more needed yesterday. Paid $300 in car repairs on Tuesday only to turn around on Wednesday to discover it needs $600 (BEST case) in brake work & $$$$$ in suspension work. Id could qualify for a loan from Kia but no way I can get another $200 a month for a payment. In the old days, I’d drop a few hundred on a car that would last a year but those are a grand or three now.

Just another ugly day making me wish for an actual living wage…

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 2:06:52am

re: #50 Anymouse

I’m guessing after Mr. Trump’s stunt in the Oval Office, New York City’s counterterrorism group might find it harder to find people willing to share info with them.

If you were a foreigner, would you want to share any information with the USA at this point?

Only with the NYPD unit… because they don’t trust Trump or the federal gov’t either. They’re quite insular.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 2:08:08am

re: #51 Anymouse

The panic among Pence’s staff is perhaps the most compelling evidence that Pence is dirty as all hell. They know they have reason to worry.

And are self-aware enough to realize that thy have been caught out…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:10:33am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And are self-aware enough to realize that thy have been caught out…

With all the stonewalling from Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell about this, one might speculate they were either involved, knew about it and did nothing, or clueless (the last isn’t a crime in American politics, sadly).

President Orrin Hatch?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:18:12am

This is fine… .

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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 2:18:56am

re: #52 Anymouse

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I love her!! Hilarious.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 2:19:17am

re: #57 Anymouse

With all the stonewalling from Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell about this, one might speculate they were either involved, knew about it and did nothing, or clueless (the last isn’t a crime in American politics, sadly).

President Orrin Hatch?

Going even farther out on the speculation limb than I did earlier, I wonder if Hatch might nominate fellow Mormon Mitt Romney as VP. Confirmation would be a breeze. The 83 year old Hatch could then resign and hand over to Mittens, putting him in the White House after all.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 2:19:33am
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:21:37am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel

Going even farther out on the speculation limb than I did earlier, I wonder if Hatch might nominate fellow Mormon Mitt Romney as VP. Confirmation would be a breeze. The 83 year old Hatch could then resign and hand over to Mittens, putting him in the White House after all.

Then there’s this:

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:24:40am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel

Going even farther out on the speculation limb than I did earlier, I wonder if Hatch might nominate fellow Mormon Mitt Romney as VP. Confirmation would be a breeze. The 83 year old Hatch could then resign and hand over to Mittens, putting him in the White House after all.

Speculating even further, if the GOP wants to ride the Trumptanic all the way to the 2018 election (assuming we have one), a Democratic wave in the US House would lead to the Democratic leader (Nancy Pelosi or someone else) becoming President if Trump and Pence went down then.

Nancy Pelosi as President would like stuffing a surfboard down Paul Ryan’s and Mitch McConnell’s throats.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 2:26:11am

re: #62 Anymouse

Then there’s this:

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If Trump goes, Pence and Ryan will go with him, leaving the US with possibly 5 presidents in a matter of weeks. Trump (forced out), Pence (succeeds then resigns), Ryan (same as Pence), Hatch (succeeds, then nominates younger successor as VP and resigns on approval).

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:28:20am

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

If Trump goes, Pence and Ryan will go with him, leaving the US with possibly 5 presidents in a matter of weeks. Trump (forced out), Pence (succeeds then resigns), Ryan (same as Pence), Hatch (succeeds, then nominates younger successor as VP and resigns on approval).

You’d need a whipsaw to keep track of all that.

I’m guessing Senator Hatch is smart enough to either have steered wide of this mess, or wasn’t involved in any way.

That certainly would be a surprise cap to his long career in the US Senate though: Suddenly out of the blue, he’s President. Even though he is quite elderly now, he might decide he wants to stay.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:31:30am
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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 2:31:37am

re: #35 Fineday

Chris Cornell (not John) died a couple hours after a Soundgarden gig in Detroit.
They had a tour planned for this summer and were working on a new album.
Wild Guess: By its suddenness, probably a massive heart attack. Only 52.
RIP

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William Lewis  May 18, 2017 • 2:37:15am

re: #67 dlnathan

Chris Cornell (not John) died a couple hours after a Soundgarden gig in Detroit.
They had a tour planned for this summer and were working on a new album.
Wild Guess: By its suddenness, probably a massive heart attack. Only 52.
RIP

I’m reminded of John Entwhistle’s sudden coke death… :(

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:37:20am

re: #67 dlnathan

Chris Cornell (not John) died a couple hours after a Soundgarden gig in Detroit.
They had a tour planned for this summer and were working on a new album.
Wild Guess: By its suddenness, probably a massive heart attack. Only 52.
RIP

I am not familiar with Mr. Cornell nor Soundgarden (though I have heard of the band). That said, it is always sad when a person dies - but if it was just after a concert, Mr. Cornell died doing what he loved.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 2:38:57am

re: #67 dlnathan

WTF?

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 2:39:51am

Jesus Christ, Chris Cornell is dead?

I can’t fucking believe it.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 2:42:00am
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Grunthos the Flatulent  May 18, 2017 • 2:43:50am

re: #46 Anymouse

Thor Mossle?

Yeth, I mutht have thtrained thomething.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 2:45:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 2:48:45am

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

If Trump goes, Pence and Ryan will go with him, leaving the US with possibly 5 presidents in a matter of weeks. Trump (forced out), Pence (succeeds then resigns), Ryan (same as Pence), Hatch (succeeds, then nominates younger successor as VP and resigns on approval).

All of which is great news for Russia: we will be politically floundering, hapless and unable to interfere in any of their plans anywhere in the world.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 2:49:42am

Chris was one of my all time favorite singers. I’ve been listening to him for 25 years.

Jesus.

Soundgarden - The Day I Tried To Live

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Odie Hugh Manatee  May 18, 2017 • 2:51:30am

re: #67 dlnathan

I was just getting around to asking if he meant Chris. It’s shocking to hear this, too damned young.

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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 2:54:33am

Posted on Chris Cornell’s Twitter page just 12 hours ago:
Link

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 3:01:24am
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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 3:02:25am

Suicide according to early reports.
Link

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 3:04:09am

re: #80 dlnathan

Oh please God no.

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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 3:07:18am

re: #81 Kragar

After the gig, he went back to his MGM Grand Detroit hotel room and killed himself.
I have no words.

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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 3:10:31am

Found with a “band around his neck” and was “unresponsive”.
He hung himself. Reminds me of the Robin Williams suicide.
You can never really tell who’s unhappy. Even on stage.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 3:11:50am

I should have gone to bed an hour ago at least, but I can’t.

I just can’t fucking believe it.

Chris Cornell - Ave Maria

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:24:16am

re: #80 dlnathan

Suicide according to early reports.
Link

The usual applies to shocking news: Early reports often turn out to be wrong. It is best to be sceptical until an official report from the band or his family comes out.

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 3:25:21am

re: #83 dlnathan

Found with a “band around his neck” and was “unresponsive”.
He hung himself. Reminds me of the Robin Williams suicide.
You can never really tell who’s unhappy. Even on stage.

If he was found on the floor (i.e., not hanging from something)… could this be an auto-erotic asphyxiation accident? He wouldn’t be the first.

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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 3:28:31am

I’m on the Steve Hoffman forum right now.
Those users who live in Detroit are getting all the details from the local news first.
It’s sadly going to be accurate.

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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 3:30:01am

Link

Police say Cornell’s wife called a family friend and asked him to check on his well-being. The friend forced opened the door and found Cornell on the bathroom floor, according to police. We’re told Cornell was pronounced dead on the scene.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:31:59am

re: #87 dlnathan

I’m on the Steve Hoffman forum right now.
Those users who live in Detroit are getting all the details from the local news first.
It’s sadly going to be accurate.

All the salacious details on the local FOX station report linked above (band around the neck, door kicked in, call from wife, &c) are not being reported on Channel 7 ABC Detroit. Their reporting says the police are merely saying it is a “possible suicide.”

It could be that FOX has inside information that other stations in Detroit don’t have. It could be made up BS (this is FOX we’re talking about).

wxyz.com (ABC)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 3:32:59am

Was Chris Cornell involved in covering up the Mike Flynn leaks? It would be irresponsible not to speculate

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:35:05am

re: #89 Anymouse

Well, I linked to an earlier article at ABC. The later article contains the same information as the FOX article.

I’m not familiar with police reporting, but as I understand it, it would be highly unusual for a police department to report a death by suicide before talking to the family about it. (They would be informed first, not the press.)

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Odie Hugh Manatee  May 18, 2017 • 3:37:52am

re: #80 dlnathan

Wow, how sad to hear this. RIP Chris.

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dlnathan  May 18, 2017 • 3:39:55am

re: #91 Anymouse

This is a high profile case.
Wouldn’t doubt that some money may have changed hands to
get all the salacious details out first.
If it bleeds, it leads ala Nightcrawler.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:42:11am

I was going to post a guinea pig pic just as the news of Soundgarden’s singer’s death came across; now it seems a bit flippant.

On the other hand, I did say I would post one every day for Aminah.

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 3:46:30am
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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 3:52:41am

I’m stunned by the news of Cornell’s death and saddened that it may be a suicide.

It’s so sad that someone so gifted would take his own life. He was a once in a generation talent.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:53:03am

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

We’re going to be bringing jobs to the USA by building shoe factories for all the shoes that will drop at this rate… .

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 4:02:06am

Political musical post:

Warren Zevon - Lawyers, Guns and Money

I went home with a waitress the way I always do
How was I to know she was with the Russians, too?

[…]

Send lawyers, guns, and money
The shit has hit the fan

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Romantic Heretic  May 18, 2017 • 4:12:20am

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

I’d say his knowledge of the military and conflict comes from Rambo movies.

I’m betting he stopped watching Saving Private Ryan halfway through the starting scene because, “So unrealistic! ‘Muricans don’t die like that.”

Chickenhawk.

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 4:13:01am

This is evil. Without public service loan forgiveness the next generation of teachers and social workers simply won’t materialize.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 4:15:31am

2017 continues to be shitshow

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 4:16:52am

Secret report shows ‘special’ treatment for public officials in D.C. school lottery

VCU Professor Digitizes Historic Slave Manuscript

You never know what you might find tucked away in a box at the Library of Congress. Ask Katherine C. Bassard, an English professor who teaches African-American literature at Virginia Commonwealth University.

Bassard is in the process of putting into digital form what may be the only surviving manuscript written by a slave before the Civil War.

Bassard located the 1847 document, “A Scetch of My Own Life by Fields Cook,” in a box labeled “African American miscellaneous” after following the footnote of a previous scholar. The 37-page manuscript wasn’t catalogued or attributed to Cook.

“It’s a beautiful document, it’s been preserved well,” says Bassard, who also serves as senior vice provost and has studied slave narratives for more than 20 years. She confirmed that Cook was the writer by following a paper trail of his life, she says.

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 4:18:10am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

This is evil. Without public service loan forgiveness the next generation of teachers and social workers simply won’t materialize.

So everything is proceeding as planned then?

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 4:20:14am

This might be the most damning excerpt from that Reuters article on the 18 undisclosed contacts.

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.

In other words, Flynn asked for, and was given, the job of National Security Advisor (which bypassed Senate confirmation) with the express intention of marginalizing the US national security apparatus and cutting it out of the picture.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:20:35am

re: #99 Romantic Heretic

I’d say his knowledge of the military and conflict comes from Rambo movies.

I’m betting he stopped watching Saving Private Ryan halfway through the starting scene because, “So unrealistic! ‘Muricans don’t die like that.”

Chickenhawk.

And wingnuts still believe that if it came to shooting the National Guard or Army wouldn’t move to stop them. They don’t need artillery to take out a bunch of cosplayers in the woods.

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Romantic Heretic  May 18, 2017 • 4:22:47am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

I’m sure the GOP knows that. It’s what they want after all.

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 4:22:54am

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:23:47am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

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This is evil. Without public service loan forgiveness the next generation of teachers and social workers simply won’t materialize.

This is an area where urban liberals and rural conservatives’ interests align.

By-and-large there are no private schools (commercial or religious) in rural areas; as such, rural areas like mine are dead-set against school vouchers. (Too bad they didn’t vote for the candidate who didn’t support vouchers here.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 4:24:04am

re: #105 Anymouse

And wingnuts still believe that if it came to shooting the National Guard or Army wouldn’t move to stop them. They don’t need artillery to take out a bunch of cosplayers in the woods.

One does not need a sledgehammer to swat a fly, yes…

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 4:25:44am

re: #37 Anymouse

Not sure how reliable these folks are:

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Reagan Battalion is a severe Libertarian asshole. Last week I posted a Twitter thread of it saying that uninsured people with preexisting conditions have made their own bed & should die in it.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:25:47am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One does not need a sledgehammer to swat a fly, yes…

Although the government moved very slowly against the Talibanjo at Malheur Wildlife Refuge, when the time came they all went down without a fight (except one, and he is dead).

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 18, 2017 • 4:28:10am

re: #11 teleskiguy

I was put on Twitter timeout for telling WikiLeaks to go fuck themselves.

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William Lewis  May 18, 2017 • 4:31:02am

re: #94 Anymouse

Please do, I could use it before bed today.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:32:11am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Reagan Battalion is a severe Libertarian asshole. Last week I posted a Twitter thread of it saying that uninsured people with preexisting conditions have made their own bed & should die in it.

Before the ACA, people with pre-existing conditions couldn’t get insurance.

“Too bad you were born with diabetes.” Libertarianism is really greed personified.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:34:11am

re: #113 William Lewis

Please do, I could use it before bed today.

Well, in that case:

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:41:11am
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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 4:42:05am
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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 4:43:19am

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Reagan Battalion is a severe Libertarian asshole. Last week I posted a Twitter thread of it saying that uninsured people with preexisting conditions have made their own bed & should die in it.

If you were born with a pre-existing condition, how the hell did you “make your bed”? RB are beyond stupid and yet too many Republicans share this same belief.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 4:45:03am

re: #114 Anymouse

Before the ACA, people with pre-existing conditions couldn’t get insurance.

“Too bad you were born with diabetes.” Libertarianism is really greed personified.

who needs death panels when people can die without one?

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 4:45:05am

re: #119 Patricia Kayden

If you were born with a pre-existing condition, how the hell did you “make your bed”? RB are beyond stupid and yet too many Republicans share this same belief.

You made it out of the womb, now you’re on your own.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 4:49:06am

re: #115 Henny Penny

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Some reports are already calling it a suicide. I really hope that’s not the case.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 4:49:23am

re: #119 Patricia Kayden

If you were born with a pre-existing condition, how the hell did you “make your bed”? RB are beyond stupid and yet too many Republicans share this same belief.

Yunno, if we human beings were all hatched out as fully-formed adults, able to be given a basic education chip implant and then sent out to realize our potential as individuals, then libertarianism/Randism would start to make some sense.

But only then.

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 4:49:50am

So, no tweets of doom this morning?

Someone may have finally gotten through to Donny Two Scoops that it’s time to shut the fuck up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 4:51:44am

re: #124 makeitstop

So, no tweets of doom this morning?

Someone may have finally gotten through to Donny Two Scoops that it’s time to shut the fuck up.

Perhaps he has been duly reminded that anything you Tweet can an will be used you in an an investigation, even if you delete it later…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 18, 2017 • 4:51:47am

re: #124 makeitstop

Probably his lawyers.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 18, 2017 • 4:54:18am

re: #124 makeitstop

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 18, 2017 • 4:54:51am

Let the rage tweeting begin.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 4:54:54am

re: #124 makeitstop

So, no tweets of doom this morning?

Someone may have finally gotten through to Donny Two Scoops that it’s time to shut the fuck up.

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William Lewis  May 18, 2017 • 4:55:11am

re: #116 Anymouse

Thank you.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 4:55:46am

Councel!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 18, 2017 • 4:57:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 4:58:00am

re: #131 Barefoot Grin

Councel!

proof again that no President has ever been treated worse!

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 4:59:54am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

proof again that no President has ever been treated worse!

Know president haz eva bean treated worst!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 5:00:41am

Good god, the man is already framing the narrative: hounded out of office just like Sarah Palin.

By a hostile liberal media and a Soros-funded, deep-state, Obama-led cabal.

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 5:01:28am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yunno, if we human beings were all hatched out as fully-formed adults, able to be given a basic education chip implant and then sent out to realize our potential as individuals, then libertarianism/Randism would start to make some sense.

But only then.

I’ve been watching a PBS show, “Victorian Slum House”…

The way these people lived, what they had to go through to keep a roof overhead (family of 6 in a 200 sq ft apartment) and food on the table (a slice of bread, with margarine, every day, and also maybe sometimes a bowl of hot soup every week or two)…

and the middle and upper class peeps bitching about why should they have to pay for any sort of relief for these people, they clearly deserved their circumstances, they just don’t want to improve themselves, morally unfit, probably all criminals…

BBC narrator wasn’t trying to be the least bit subtle using exact quotes of today’s right wing to describe the views of people who didn’t want any of their taxes going to help these people whose suffering was undoubtedly their own fault.

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 5:01:42am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

This is great. Trump burned the most important intel source the West has inside ISIS and McMaster, being so fundamentally ignorant with regards to counter terrorism operations that he didn’t recognize the danger managed to destroyed his own credibility in trying to cover up for his boss.

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And Booby Nincompoopo is getting the Karmic Payback he so richly deserves!

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:02:09am
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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 5:03:10am

Welp, spoke too soon on that one.

Tweet moar, Two Scoops. Goddamn crybaby.

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darthstar  May 18, 2017 • 5:03:28am
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darthstar  May 18, 2017 • 5:04:19am
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:04:30am

re: #130 William Lewis

Thank you.

I live to serve guinea pig videos. /s

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 5:04:52am

Let’s take a peep at the latest bunch of Trumpettes who realize too late that they were conned, shall we?

areyousorryyet.com

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 5:06:56am

Oh my….

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weave  May 18, 2017 • 5:07:09am

Reddit /r/the_donald assholes call for a civil war, violence and bloodshed. The comments are disturbing. (Their post links to Alex Jones blog that is whipping up the paranoia)

BE PREPARED PATRIOTS. THIS MAY BE THE START OF THE SECOND CIVIL WAR

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 5:07:31am
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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 5:07:56am
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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:09:35am

re: #145 weave

Reddit /r/the_donald assholes call for a civil war, violence and bloodshed. The comments are disturbing. (Their post links to Alex Jones blog that is whipping up the paranoia)

BE PREPARED PATRIOTS. THIS MAY BE THE START OF THE SECOND CIVIL WAR

Liberals own firearms too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 5:11:12am

re: #145 weave

Reddit /r/the_donald assholes call for a civil war, violence and bloodshed. The comments are disturbing. (Their post links to Alex Jones blog that is whipping up the paranoia)

BE PREPARED PATRIOTS. THIS MAY BE THE START OF THE SECOND CIVIL WAR

addicted to outrage. you might think that their man winning the election would have calmed them down, but they are still whipped up and looking for any excuse to get out in their SUVs and assault rifles, gunning down anything that looks un-american in their eyes…

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darthstar  May 18, 2017 • 5:16:18am
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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:16:25am

John McCain just whined on MSNBC that Democrats are slow walking Trump’s nominees and can’t get over the election. Wow. Just fucking wow.

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darthstar  May 18, 2017 • 5:17:27am

It’s not even witch hunting season.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:17:36am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Liberals own firearms too.

Shhh … don’t give away our secret.

Reddit has banned groups for violent threats before. I wonder if a group as large as /r/The_Donald will get the banhammer.

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darthstar  May 18, 2017 • 5:18:18am

Okay…can’t get sucked into this now…gotta get ready to hit the airport.

Enjoy the shit show, everyone.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:19:55am

re: #154 darthstar

Okay…can’t get sucked into this now…gotta get ready to hit the airport.

Enjoy the shit show, everyone.

Scene 1 Act 1 starts today.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:20:25am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

John McCain just whined on MSNBC that Democrats are slow walking Trump’s nominees and can’t get over the election. Wow. Just fucking wow.

What nominees? He hasn’t submitted any but a very few. Perhaps if Trump spent less time on Twitter and the golf course the Democrats might have someone to look at.

Moreover, the Democrats can’t stop anyone anyway. Last time I checked, they were in the Senate minority.

Why isn’t McCain whigning about Russia, his apparently new favourite country since he isn’t speaking out? Why is he so firmly planted in the camp of the guy who showed disrespect to his military service?

(I know the answer, party before country or even personal dignity.)

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:21:38am

Katie Mack getting political… .

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Citizen K  May 18, 2017 • 5:22:56am

Also, jesus, hearing about Cornell just makes me sad, especially how sudden and unexpected it was. Just…christ. The 90s of my childhood just keeps falling away.

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 5:26:32am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

John McCain just whined on MSNBC that Democrats are slow walking Trump’s nominees and can’t get over the election. Wow. Just fucking wow.

What fucking nominees!?! Is it Dems’ fault Trump hasn’t actually named any?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:28:02am

I have several magazines to go through from the mail: The Economist, Nebraska Municipal Review, and The Journal of Irreproducible Results (the last is definitely my favourite of the three).

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I cannot.  May 18, 2017 • 5:30:49am

re: #160 Anymouse

Nebraska Municipal Review

You live an exciting life.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 5:31:32am

re: #145 weave

Its a bluff. A sub-reddit that won’t take a difference of opinion, from peeps that are only confident when no Rebuttal is forth coming.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:34:00am

Wow, even Tomi Lahren is in the Trump Regrets Website. (About three-quarters way down the page - I have no idea how to paste anything from Tumblr here.)

areyousorryyet.com

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 5:34:53am

re: #152 darthstar

At the very least, Matthew Hopkins needs to be located.

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dangerman  May 18, 2017 • 5:35:26am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good god, the man is already framing the narrative: hounded out of office just like Sarah Palin.

By a hostile liberal media and a Soros-funded, deep-state, Obama-led cabal.

wait - he loses the fight? run out of town?

he - the best, brightest, cleverest, brilliantest, isnt smart enough to put them all in their place and just beat ‘em with one hand while simultaneously with his other enact all his wonderful campaign promises?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:36:08am

re: #161 I cannot.

You live an exciting life.

You betcha. Loose goats in people’s yards, someone stabling a horse in town (in their front yard), the water tower calling my house because it’s lonely or cold… .

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:36:37am

Apparently somebody has lost memories of the last eight years

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jeffreyw  May 18, 2017 • 5:36:42am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Citizen K  May 18, 2017 • 5:37:06am

Ah, goddammit….

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 5:37:11am

I see many have heard the news about Chris Cornell. Shocking. I was just reading an article published just a little while ago that hints it may have been a suicide. The article said Detroit police are looking at that as they said the scene in his hotel room made them start looking into that.

R.I.P. Rocker.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 5:38:26am

re: #3 freetoken

Conceptually, Trump can run out the clock. He was never going to be more than a one-term President anyway, given his age and condition.

Mueller may well uncover wrongdoing all over the place, but it will take time.

I think mostly what will be found is gross negligence on the part of Trump, in that he didn’t care at all about the qualifications of the people he chose.

Now, somewhere deep under the rug, there could be some nasty stuff on Trump himself… but I don’t know if Mueller will ever be able to get to it before the clock runs down.

I dunno: I’ve never thought the “nasty stuff on Trump” is really all that far under the rug.
I’ve always thought the real damaging dirt was/will relate to massive (unrevealed) debts to Russian creditors: creditors (they being Russian and all) as likely as not to also be mobbed-up, or fronts for mobsters.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 18, 2017 • 5:39:11am

Drudge report in Roger Ailes is dead.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 5:40:12am

As Trump administration plans massive cuts to public education we once again return to his question (pointed at the time at AA voters): “what have you got to lose?”

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:41:56am
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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 5:42:08am

Here is a link to the story I saw at Yahoo news regarding Chris Cornell.

Yahoo News - Soundgarden Singer Chris Cornell Dies At Age 52 In Detroit

This is the part about suicide suspicions.

Detroit police spokesman Michael Woody told AP Thursday morning that he couldn’t release details about why police are investigating the death as a possible suicide, but noted there were “basic things observed at the scene.”

Cornell died at the MGM Grand Detroit hotel, Woody said. He said Cornell’s wife had called a family friend and asked him to check on Cornell; the friend forced open a hotel room door and found Cornell on the bathroom floor.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 5:42:15am

CNN reporting that Roger Ailes has died.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 5:42:49am

re: #174 Dr. Matt

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Drat. Mere seconds!

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 5:43:20am

Damn…so Ailes died. Wow. Not a good way to start a day seeing all of this.

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 5:43:29am

re: #172 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Drudge report in Roger Ailes is dead.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 5:44:38am

re: #163 Anymouse

Wow, even Tomi Lahren is in the Trump Regrets Website. (About three-quarters way down the page - I have no idea how to paste anything from Tumblr here.)

areyousorryyet.com

Has she done anything since Glenn Beck Clarabelle the Human Hemorrhoid fired her for being pro-choice?

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 5:45:32am

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

So, what are the Complete load-of-Bollocks Conspiracy theories that will be puked out?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:45:33am

re: #178 ObserverArt

Damn…so Ailes died. Wow. Not a good way to start a day seeing all of this.

I can’t say I would wish death on anyone, not even Mr. Ailes. That said, I will not miss his sundering of our country with his network’s propaganda, and his sexual assaults and harassment of his female employees.

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 5:46:05am

re: #174 Dr. Matt

While I feel uncomfortable cheering someone demise due to natural causes. I have no issues giving you upding for because.

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 5:46:21am

re: #180 Myron Falwell

Has she done anything since Glenn Beck Clarabelle the Human Hemorrhoid fired her for being pro-choice?

She was still under contract so she couldn’t do anything, she sued and the settlement recently reached ended the contract so I gather she’s looking for work now.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:46:22am

re: #181 Apocalypse

So, what are the Complete load-of-Bollocks Conspiracy theories that will be puked out?

Another notch in the Clinton Kill Count bedpost or something.

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 5:46:29am

The Hill: Ex-Fox News head Roger Ailes dead: report

Looks like the Prince of Lies is starting to collect from everyone now….

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 5:46:47am

re: #182 Anymouse

I can’t say I would wish death on anyone, not even Mr. Ailes. That said, I will not miss his sundering of our country with his network’s propaganda, and his sexual assaults and harassment of his female employees.

Agreed.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 5:47:31am

Ailes is a roommate with Hitler and Saddam in Hell.

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 5:47:43am

Now the praise and eulogy for the next week.

Trump had him offed to take the heat off.

///

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Decatur Deb  May 18, 2017 • 5:48:30am

RIP—“Any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind”

Some more than others.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 5:48:48am

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

CNN reporting that Roger Ailes has died.

Everyone on Fox News will be wearing black for a week.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 5:50:07am

re: #191 Myron Falwell

Everyone on Fox News will be wearing black for a week.

I wish the damn network went black forever.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 5:50:22am

re: #181 Apocalypse

So, what are the Complete load-of-Bollocks Conspiracy theories that will be puked out?

Megyn Kelly dosed him with ricin.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 5:51:52am

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

CNN reporting that Roger Ailes has died.

Obviously agents of the Obama/Clinton ‘Deep State’ silenced him
//

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 5:52:20am

re: #192 ObserverArt

Nah, that would mean they’re still transmitting, I’d prefer static.

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ipsos  May 18, 2017 • 5:55:46am

Speak only good of the dead.

Roger Ailes is dead?

Good.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 5:56:48am

Just found out Chris Cornell passed. Damn it. I thought some of his best stuff was with Audioslave. I played this CD about 9 months straight on my way to work back in 2008. My favorite cut.
Like A Stone.

“Bassist Tim Commerford claims that the song is about an old man waiting for death, who sits in a house alone after all his friends and family have passed on, waiting to be reunited with them.[1][2] However, while Commerford originally thought it was a song about love and romance, band’s singer and songwriter Chris Cornell explains that “It’s a song about concentrating on the afterlife you would hope for, rather than the normal monotheistic approach: You work really hard all your life to be a good person and a moral persona and fair and generous, and then you go to hell anyway.”[3]

The melancholy and certain parts of the lyrics of “Like a Stone” has prompted some to wonder if Cornell wrote the song about late Alice in Chains singer Layne Staley, who died in April 2002. Cornell has denied this, saying “No. I’m not one of those guys where, like, something happens and then I go run around, ‘Ooh, 9/11, and now it’s 9/12, let me write about that. I wrote the lyrics before he died. […] You can misinterpret that stuff pretty easy, but I don’t tend to sit down and plan on writing about a specific issue. They come up or they don’t.”

Audioslave - Like a Stone (Official Video)

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Major Tom  May 18, 2017 • 5:58:33am

re: #170 ObserverArt

Amazing range.

One of best concert memories I have was seeing Soundgarden at Lollapalooza in the later 90s. Amazing lineup at that show anyway, but being right in front of the stage, hearing a great version of “Blow Up The Outside World” and turning around to see thousands of “frisbees” (Plates from a pizza vendor) flying up against a beautiful Florida sunset was so beautiful and surreal it’s etched into my mind to this day.

RIP

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Scout  May 18, 2017 • 5:59:16am

Speaking of Ailes, this kind of flew under the radar:

Trump Associates Said to Have Helped Roger Ailes Target His Enemies

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 5:59:42am
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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 5:59:51am

re: #71 Kragar

From solo work:

Casino Royale - Chris Cornell - You Know My Name

From Soundgarden:

Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun

From Audioslave:

Audioslave - Cochise

From Temple of the Dog:

Temple Of The Dog - Hunger Strike

Between him and Eddie and Kurt, they defined the Seattle sound and grunge. Chris will be sorely missed. RIP.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 6:00:51am

re: #195 Apocalypse

Nah, that would mean they’re still transmitting, I’d prefer static.

☝🏻☝🏻 THIS

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 6:01:29am
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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:03:29am

It sucks to wake up in the morning to learn that one of your favorite musicians has passed. Godsdamnit.

But we can take solace in knowing that Trump’s phone is back in his hands and he’s rage tweeting about how this is all a witchhunt and that everyone has it in for him.

But for Trump’s suspicious actions, the acts of his underlings that broke the law, no investigation would have been needed, let alone a special prosecutor.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 6:04:38am

re: #203 Myron Falwell

“Many say Roger was many things. Many say that Roger, at times was a son of a bitch.

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 6:05:17am

Somewhere……..

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:06:34am

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

CNN reporting that Roger Ailes has died.

Well, there’s that.

I take cold comfort from his passing. I’m sure his friends will mourn his passing. No one else should. He ruined lives and helped weaponize Fox News into an agitprop outlet of right wingers who are in an anti-factual bubble personified by the current occupants of the White House.

That’s all I have to say about that.*

*well, except for that next post.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:08:38am
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Unshaken Defiance  May 18, 2017 • 6:09:40am

At this point perhaps the fates of Trump and Fox News are tied. Those symbiotic parasites might be buried together in the political sense.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 18, 2017 • 6:09:51am

Man.. I was a young man making music when Soundgarden gut punched us all w/ the heavy. I’m a child of grunge. It wasn’t really called grunge at the time, I guess the marketing team figured that out late, but he’s one of my all time favorites. RIP.

Chris Cornell’s cameo in “Singles”

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lockjawcanbefun  May 18, 2017 • 6:10:24am
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 6:11:42am

Yeah, Russia is going to help with pressuring North Korea.
Pffft…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 6:12:18am

Roger Ailes realised President Nixon’s dream of a “GOP TV” after President Reagan abandoned the Fairness Doctrine and smoothed Rupert Murdoch’s citizenship papers.

Murdoch then bought the remnants of the DuMont Television Network (Metromedia, which owned television and radio stations which a foreigner is not allowed to own). He then put Ailes in as president of FOX, and the rest is history.

FOX may have weaponised news, but the plans started rolling way back during Ailes’s term with President Nixon as an adviser.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 6:12:54am

re: #107 Eric The Fruit Bat

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 6:15:26am

Does “BOOM” even suffice anymore?

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 6:16:08am

re: #207 lawhawk

You are far too kind. I won’t pile on but his legacy is deceit and lies and a workplace that legitimised sexual harassment and maybe worse. His works are vile and they stare back at us every night on the TV.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 6:16:33am

I have never read anything as devastating as these two paragraphs from Foreign Policy. I woke up to this in my inbox.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 6:18:40am

re: #208 lawhawk

“[Ailes’ death] will be the news all day…”

…until another Trump leak comes out in the late afternoon.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 6:18:52am

re: #217 MsJ

I have never read anything as devastating as these two paragraphs from Foreign Policy. I woke up to this in my inbox.

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All is well, everything is fine

/

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 6:22:34am

The larger issue…

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 6:23:22am

re: #150 darthstar

BREAKING: Trump assails naming of special counsel as `the single greatest witch hunt’ of a politician.

— The Associated Press

Does DT mean the special counsel named by his DOJ?

//

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Unshaken Defiance  May 18, 2017 • 6:23:59am

So sad to see the news of Chris Cornell. So much going on in that voice.

It’s such a small thing in the scope of running a superpower or even against just this mornings news pace. But it truly speaks to character and the culture of a ruling class. Touches my heart because as a teen I was a student pilot and for a few years my folks had a small basic training plane we would use on weekend trips. To little airports a lot like the one in the article.

Trump’s Weekend Getaways Threaten to Doom Historic Airport

“We never saw this coming,” Eisenhauer said the other day on the high ridge where the airport’s cozy office sits, stuffed with flying memorabilia and old black-and-white photos of airplanes and pilots. “Of all the things ― this is something that could be really, really bad.”

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:24:28am

re: #215 FormerDirtDart

One unreported contact could be an oversight. Two could be poor judgment.

18? That’s active deception with intent. And we know that everyone from Sessions to Flynn to Kushner have lied about their foreign contacts (Kushner lied on his security clearance; Sessions perjured himself at his confirmation hearing).

None of these people are clean. None.

And it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they’re rotten to the core, corrupt, and ignorant to boot.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 6:24:33am

re: #216 nines09

You are far too kind. I won’t pile on but his legacy is deceit and lies and a workplace that legitimised sexual harassment and maybe worse. His works are vile and they stare back at us every night on the TV.

As Dana Bash just said on CNN, Ailes is largely responsible for the GOP as it exists today.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 6:25:22am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

You raise a good question, now If only someone will ask him what acts.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 6:26:47am

re: #215 FormerDirtDart

Does “BOOM” even suffice anymore?

This report of all these contacts is false. Fake news. Libtard media, deep state.

The only scandal here is who leaked this information. They should be prosecuted and all leakers rooted out of government.

OK, yeah, these contacts happened. So what? A campaign can’t talk to representatives of one of the most powerful nations in the world and an ally of ours in the war against Radical Islamic Terrorism?

The media and Dems need to get over this Russian obsession and just move on already.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 6:26:49am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

Yes it does. Fed and watered. Spread like smallpox. Sold like crack.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 6:29:39am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

The larger issue…

Besides the rage and typos, a sitting @potus made a claim that the prior administration committed crimes.

At what point do former presidents break with the tradition of shying away from commenting on a current administrations handling of the business of the country?

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:30:39am
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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 6:31:45am

re: #107 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:32:18am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Liberals own firearms too.

So when is Alex Jones going to be arrested under the Smith Act?

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 6:33:20am

He couldn’t just share his condolences.

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Eventual Carrion  May 18, 2017 • 6:33:30am

re: #111 Anymouse

Although the government moved very slowly against the Talibanjo at Malheur Wildlife Refuge, when the time came they all went down without a fight (except one, and he is dead).

Yeah. Here in NW PA I hear some say that they are accumulating guns for the inevitable conflict with the government that is to come. I tell them they are really not thinking this through (funny that most of the ex military people I know don’t talk like that). I tell these people that they are shooting with armament that can put a hole in a vehicle, and the government will be shooting armament that can blow their fucking house off the face of the planet.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 6:33:36am

Bedtime … catch y’all later.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 6:33:52am

re: #181 Apocalypse

So, what are the Complete load-of-Bollocks Conspiracy theories that will be puked out?

Because overweight 77 year old men with admitted health issues are such a low risk demographic…

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b.d.  May 18, 2017 • 6:35:30am

Ok, who had AIles killed?

A.) The Clintons
B.) Russia
C.) The Deep State
D.) Trump, Flynn, Bannon, Manafort et al

//

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 18, 2017 • 6:35:53am

re: #225 Apocalypse

You raise a good question, now If only someone will ask him what acts.

“What acts, Mr. President?”

“You know what I’m talking about. It was all over the media for eight years.”

“Do you mean the left wing media that’s in the Democrats’ back pocket?”

“The President has said all he will on this subject.”

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:35:56am

re: #233 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. Here in NW PA I hear some say that they are accumulating guns for the inevitable conflict with the government that is to come. I tell them they are really not thinking this through (funny that most of the ex military people I know don’t talk like that). I tell these people that they are shooting with armament that can put a hole in a vehicle, and the government will be shooting armament that can blow their fucking house off the face of the planet.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 6:36:30am

re: #233 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. Here in NW PA I hear some say that they are accumulating guns for the inevitable conflict with the government that is to come. I tell them they are really not thinking this through (funny that most of the ex military people I know don’t talk like that). I tell these people that they are shooting with armament that can put a hole in a vehicle, and the government will be shooting armament that can blow their fucking house off the face of the planet.

I don’t know about wingnuts, but I can only shoot one gun at a time.’

This ex-military person doesn’t talk like that. I don’t feel the need to go round strutting with a shotgun and puffing out imaginary bravery.

Bedtime now… .

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:36:41am

re: #236 b.d.

Megyn Kelly did it in the kitchen with her flamethrower.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 18, 2017 • 6:37:05am

Fox News Founder Roger Ailes Is Dead

slate.com

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 6:37:05am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

I’ve never laughed so hard at Lumpy in my life.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 6:38:49am
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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:39:31am

Okay, this made me smile this morning:

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:39:55am

re: #242 Myron Falwell

I’ve never laughed so hard at Lumpy in my life.

L’il Sean gonna get the shock of his death when he arrives at the Pearly Gates and St. Peter gives him a one way ticket to the eternal barbecue with a seat right next to ol’ Tub o’Lard Roger!

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 6:41:26am

SNORT

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 6:41:53am

re: #233 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. Here in NW PA I hear some say that they are accumulating guns for the inevitable conflict with the government that is to come. I tell them they are really not thinking this through (funny that most of the ex military people I know don’t talk like that). I tell these people that they are shooting with armament that can put a hole in a vehicle, and the government will be shooting armament that can blow their fucking house off the face of the planet.

I always wonder how they think they would survive the Air Force bomber destroying their house that was tagged by an Army Ranger after they were infiltrated by the Navy Seal and Marine who were having a contest to seeing who could get the most kills before being spotted.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:43:07am

re: #243 FormerDirtDart

That’s absolutely wild. You can see what looks like the blast wave propagate out away from the mountain as the ash cloud expands.

I got to visit there a few years ago, and it’s absolutely humbling. As you drive up to the Johnston Ridge center, you see stands of timber, and then all the trees are snapped like twigs. And then you look into the gaping maw of the mountain as it slumbers as steam/gas continue to escape to this day.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:44:46am

re: #247 Belafon

The USAF wouldn’t even bother with ground spotters. They could do it from over the horizon with satellite spotting and a GPS special delivery.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 6:45:02am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

Well, it might be a “larger issue” if it were anybody but President* Donald Trump tweeting this nonsense: I’m not sure what’s the worse case: that the nation’s Chief Executive makes inane public accusations like this; or that most of the media and/or public will simply shrug it off saying “it’s only Trump”, and ignore it.

Actually, a worse-case scenario are the RW dimwits who will take this drivel as a certainty: any idea what “illegal acts” he is accusing President Obama of committing (outside of “Presidenting While Black”, of course)??

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 18, 2017 • 6:45:19am

re: #52 Anymouse

That really is the best side-eye ever. Needs to be used for all sorts of reactions to stupid.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 6:46:12am

re: #246 Myron Falwell

SNORT

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I don’t think Hannity knows what a patriot is. Ailes certainly wasn’t one. He was typical of many who got their start with Nixon. A prick who pushed his own resentments on to the American people.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 6:46:53am

re: #250 Jay C

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Well, it might be a “larger issue” if it were anybody but President* Donald Trump tweeting this nonsense: I’m not sure what’s the worse case: that the nation’s Chief Executive makes inane public accusations like this; or that most of the media and/or public will simply shrug it off saying “it’s only Trump”, and ignore it.

Actually, a worse-case scenario are the RW dimwits who will take this drivel as a certainty: any idea what “illegal acts” he is accusing President Obama of committing (outside of “Presidenting While Black”, of course)??

This isn’t going to end well for him and I think he knows it.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 6:48:33am

re: #236 b.d.

Ok, who had AIles killed?

A.) The Clintons
B.) Russia
C.) The Deep-Fried State
D.) Trump, Flynn, Bannon, Manafort et al

//

I’ll go with C.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 6:48:36am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

He couldn’t just share his condolences.

It’s all about him

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 6:48:50am

re: #250 Jay C

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Actually, a worse-case scenario are the RW dimwits who will take this drivel as a certainty: any idea what “illegal acts” he is accusing President Obama of committing (outside of “Presidenting While Black”, of course)??

1. Being born in Kenya
2. Palling around with William Ayres
3. Being the secret son of Malcolm X
4. Plagiarizing “Dreams of My Father” and “Audacity of Hope” from William Ayres unpublished manifesto that was never written down
5. “Fast & Furious” something something
6. BENGHAZI!!!!1!!1!!1!!

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 6:48:59am

Ugh, long tweet streams from Hannity are bringing me down.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:49:23am

re: #250 Jay C

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 6:49:31am

re: #238 Joe Bacon

They are aware Ruby Ridge didn’t end well?

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b.d.  May 18, 2017 • 6:50:37am

re: #254 Barefoot Grin

I’ll go with C.

hahahaha

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 6:51:06am

re: #257 ObserverArt

Ugh, long tweet streams from Hannity are bringing me down.

It’s like when Luke removed Vader’s mask. Come to think of it, Ailes bore a striking resemblance to unmasked Vader.

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:51:52am

Hey, is it true that ol Roger will be given a State Funeral in Russia and his ashes will be placed in the wall of The Kremlin?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 6:52:21am

re: #259 Apocalypse

They are aware Ruby Ridge didn’t end well?

Unfortunately Ruby Ridge also empowered a whole generation of RWNJs including Tim McVeigh, who used it as justification to kill nearly 170 men, women and children in Oklahoma.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 6:52:38am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

He couldn’t just share his condolences.

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Jeez! OK, Hannity has every right to eulogize Roger Ailes if he wants to, but doesn’t he have a blog, or a newsletter, or some sort of medium (he works at FOX FFS) where he could put all this stuff into a couple of coherent paragraphs, instead of having to spread it over a raft of short tweets?

Unlike actual bullshit, Hannity’s stuff doesn’t smell less for being strung out in a series of turds, vs. being in a large pile….

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 6:52:56am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

It’s all about him

And all about the usual conservative victim mentality. You can’t talk about Ailes without talking about the sexual harassment and his role in pushing racism onto GOP campaigns. As for respecting the family, has Hannity ever done that for anyone he disagreed with?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 18, 2017 • 6:52:59am

re: #98 Timothy Watson

I really miss Warren Zevon.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 6:53:01am

Trump will simply not get any of this and continue his blustering BS until the bitter end. It might play with with his know-nothing supporters, but even those enabling GOPers in Congress know enough that law enforcement trumps Trump’s tweets:

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electrotek  May 18, 2017 • 6:53:08am
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 6:53:35am

re: #258 lawhawk

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Maybe you shouldn’t have colluded with Russia and hired people who did, you stupid prick.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 6:54:17am
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b.d.  May 18, 2017 • 6:54:37am

What a week for Free Republic to be broken….

I really am missing the schadenfreude

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 6:54:49am

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

It’s like when Luke removed Vader’s mask. Come to think of it, Ailes bore a striking resemblance to unmasked Vader.

If Ailes was Darth Vader unmasked, Lumpy is Dark Helmet unmasked.

The Dark Helmet

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 6:54:56am

re: #246 Myron Falwell

SNORT

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Poor Satan.

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:55:25am

re: #259 Apocalypse

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 6:55:31am
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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 6:55:58am

re: #272 Myron Falwell

If Ailes was Darth Vader unmasked, Lumpy is Dark Helmet unmasked.

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Video

The best!

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:57:24am
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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 6:58:21am

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

McVeigh was a bright spark apparently, Which gives a sickly cold comfort, that few would be able to do what he did.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 6:59:31am

Damn…the sky light has dimmed, looks like a storm is a comin’…I can hear rumbles in the distance.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 7:00:14am
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 7:01:01am

re: #277 Joe Bacon

And I just chuckled about the prospect of seeing tRump with wet hair

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 7:01:49am

re: #278 Apocalypse

McVeigh was a bright spark apparently, Which gives a sickly cold comfort, that few would be able to do what he did.

I often wonder if that series of events was moved ahead 10 years would the advances in technology make it easier or harder for McVeigh to pull off?

Cell phones and the internet were in their infancy when the Murrah building was attacked.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 7:02:06am

re: #274 Joe Bacon

Oh, so basic rhyme and reason is not there.

My condolences.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 7:03:38am

re: #281 FormerDirtDart

And I just chuckled about the prospect of seeing tRump with wet hair

Don’t say it! I’m sick of being compared to him.
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CongoJack  May 18, 2017 • 7:04:34am

Well SOB,
Loved me some Audioslave.

When I was 18 I stole a Cochise street sign because of their song. Oh growing up in a small town in the Midwest…

On Roger Ailes…. Satan can have him. They need a new mid-level manager.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 7:04:53am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Damn…the sky light has dimmed, looks like a storm is a comin’…I can hear rumbles in the distance.

I was going to tell you to keep an eye on the radar.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 7:05:42am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was going to tell you to keep an eye on the radar.

Got the map up right now.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 7:06:39am

Trump’s troubles with “council/counsel/councel” made me think of this Patrice O’Neal classic (with apologies to the late Mr. O’Neal):

Patrice O’Neal on “Typing & Spelling” (#60secondStandUp)

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 7:07:11am

re: #280 nines09

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He left behind a media empire which made its audience less well informed than people who don’t watch news, with a poisonous culture in which sexual harassment was the norm. But he died rich!

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 7:07:51am

re: #236 b.d.

Ok, who had AIles killed?

A.) The Clintons
B.) Russia
C.) The Deep State
D.) Trump, Flynn, Bannon, Manafort et al

//

A Twitter poll! Needs to add:

E.) No one. Ailes was a POS who lived too damned long

not //

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Major Tom  May 18, 2017 • 7:08:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 7:08:17am

re: #287 ObserverArt

Got the map up right now.

NWS says the storm has 40 mph wind gusts.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:08:41am

It’s honestly hard for me to conjure much sympathy for a man who spend his career pushing lies that my political belief system was analogous with the worst of the USSR and woh pushed racism. I feel sorry for his wife and family for losing their husband and father even though it’s obvious that Ailes was yet another conservative hypocrite who didn’t respect the institution of marriage. Hannity can claim it’s about his political beliefs but Roger Ailes contributed nothing but negativity and lies to the political landscape.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 7:09:14am

re: #289 Big Beautiful Door

He left behind a media empire which made its audience less well informed than people who don’t watch news, with a poisonous culture in which sexual harassment was the norm. But he died rich!

In a similar vein (I know, I know… it’s Josh Barro…)

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 7:09:35am

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

It’s like when Luke removed Vader’s mask. Come to think of it, Ailes bore a striking resemblance to unmasked Vader.

He reminded me of Jabba the Hut. And he kept his female employees in metal bikinis on a leash so he could slobber on them.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 7:13:52am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Hard to say really, when reading about it, it seems to me it either: A) it would have stopped or B) it would have been much worse.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 7:14:35am

re: #295 Big Beautiful Door

He reminded me of Jabba the Hut. And he kept his female employees in metal bikinis on a leash so he could slobber on them.

Posting that Dark Helmet video above got me on a Spaceballs kick.

So of course Ailes is Pizza the Hutt… who somehow got locked inside the back seat of his stretched limo and ate himself to death.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 7:14:42am

re: #289 Big Beautiful Door

And anyone with any sense knows that money accumulated is the sole worth of a man……..// He helped poison this country against itself. I may raise a glass and do a little dance later tonight. One less predator. One less bad guy. One less enabler of greed and avarice and gluttony.

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LastYearsMan  May 18, 2017 • 7:14:43am

Oh god, he’s tweeting again. This isn’t going to be pretty (or smart … or dignified).

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 7:14:52am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

It’s honestly hard for me to conjure much sympathy for a man who spend his career pushing lies that my political belief system was analogous with the worst of the USSR and woh pushed racism. I feel sorry for his wife and family for losing their husband and father even though it’s obvious that Ailes was yet another conservative hypocrite who didn’t respect the institution of marriage. Hannity can claim it’s about his political beliefs but Roger Ailes contributed nothing but negativity and lies to the political landscape.

I can only feel sympathy for the child. His wife knew what kind of man he was. I find it very hard to feel sympathy for an enabler or co-conspirator.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 7:15:24am

re: #249 lawhawk

The USAF wouldn’t even bother with ground spotters. They could do it from over the horizon with satellite spotting and a GPS special delivery.

I was just involving all four branches. Any one of them alone could wipe a house off the planet.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:15:41am

re: #300 MsJ

I can only feel sympathy for the child. His wife knew what kind of man he was. I find it very hard to feel sympathy for an enabler or co-conspirator.

True, true.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 7:16:32am
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CongoJack  May 18, 2017 • 7:16:32am

re: #299 LastYearsMan

Oh god, he’s tweeting again. This isn’t going to be pretty (or smart … or dignified).

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Oh my. I can just smell the desperation in that tweet. Apparently he believed everything Flynn told him. “Lock her up” indeed.

Best sleep in months last night. Hopefully this national nightmare will end soon.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 7:16:41am

re: #299 LastYearsMan

Oh god, he’s tweeting again. This isn’t going to be pretty (or smart … or dignified).

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 7:16:50am

re: #299 LastYearsMan

Oh god, he’s tweeting again. This isn’t going to be pretty (or smart … or dignified).

Even if there were any, and there weren’t, 1) Congress was investigating, and 2) Congress wasn’t as compromised as this one.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 7:17:03am

re: #294 Myron Falwell

Equally apropos.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:17:21am

re: #303 nines09

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I love how Fox taunts him. Oh and his English is much better too.

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nines09  May 18, 2017 • 7:18:13am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Platinum Level Trolling. Magnificent.

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 7:18:47am

re: #295 Big Beautiful Door

He reminded me of Jabba the Hut. And he kept his female employees in metal bikinis on a leash so he could slobber on them.

Hey, I thought ol Tub o’Lard Ailes looked more like…

PIZZA THE HUT!

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 7:19:38am

Everyone should just stop and take a look at where we are today as opposed to a week ago.

Even if Mueller finds nothing criminal in what Trump did, this will pretty much kneecap him for the next year or so, and the GOP is going to take a real hit in the midterms. Quite a different spot from the hopelessness that was hanging over the country just last week.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 7:20:43am

re: #311 makeitstop

Everyone should just stop and take a look at where we are today as opposed to a week ago.

Even if Mueller finds nothing criminal in what Trump did, this will pretty much kneecap him for the next year or so, and the GOP is going to take a real hit in the midterms. Quite a different spot from the hopelessness that was hanging over the country just last week.

The only problem is that Trump is still the President, and likely will be for many more months.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 7:21:53am

re: #233 Eventual Carrion

Yeah. Here in NW PA I hear some say that they are accumulating guns for the inevitable conflict with the government that is to come. I tell them they are really not thinking this through (funny that most of the ex military people I know don’t talk like that). I tell these people that they are shooting with armament that can put a hole in a vehicle, and the government will be shooting armament that can blow their fucking house off the face of the planet.

Even with DT in charge and the GOP controlling congress and all of them MAGA?

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 7:22:03am

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

The only problem is that Trump is still the President, and likely will be for many more months.

Yes and I wonder how many times he’s going to fuck up during his upcoming trip!

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:22:12am

re: #311 makeitstop

Everyone should just stop and take a look at where we are today as opposed to a week ago.

Even if Mueller finds nothing criminal in what Trump did, this will pretty much kneecap him for the next year or so, and the GOP is going to take a real hit in the midterms. Quite a different spot from the hopelessness that was hanging over the country just last week.

I think we are going to see an anti GOP wave in 2018. It will set us up good for 2020.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 18, 2017 • 7:22:54am

re: #236 b.d.

Ok, who had AIles killed?

A.) The Clintons
B.) Russia
C.) The Deep State
D.) Trump, Flynn, Bannon, Manafort et al

//

I’m already seeing some of the conspiracy nuts claiming that Hillary Clinton had him murdered to distract from the Seth Rich investigation.

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 7:23:18am

re: #313 Sir John Barron

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 7:23:23am

re: #311 makeitstop

What GOPer will want Trump or anyone in the Admin campaigning for them? What GOPer will want Trump fundraising for them?

The investigation casts a pall over everything that the GOP does, and even if an individual GOPer attempts to firewall themselves against Trump, the fact is that they’re still pushing Trump’s egregious agenda in Congress - whether it’s the Trumpcare baffling BS (for which there still isn’t a score on their latest effort), or the tax reform that is all about burden shifting from the rich to everyone else.

These are ready made ads for Democrats, who can get a bulk discount by cutting the same ad 435 different ways.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 7:24:15am

re: #311 makeitstop

Vigilance is key. Things could go the other way just as fast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 7:24:31am
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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 7:24:42am

re: #318 lawhawk

What GOPer will want Trump or anyone in the Admin campaigning for them? What GOPer will want Trump fundraising for them?

The investigation casts a pall over everything that the GOP does, and even if an individual GOPer attempts to firewall themselves against Trump, the fact is that they’re still pushing Trump’s egregious agenda in Congress - whether it’s the Trumpcare baffling BS (for which there still isn’t a score on their latest effort), or the tax reform that is all about burden shifting from the rich to everyone else.

These are ready made ads for Democrats, who can get a bulk discount by cutting the same ad 435 different ways.

You’ll have the Grothmans, Steve Kings and Louie Gohmert Pyles begging for the Stump by Trump!

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 7:24:51am

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

The only problem is that Trump is still the President, and likely will be for many more months.

In the scenario that is “Trump is president”, hindering his and the Republican agenda is a huge thing. We have Trump no matter what until he’s gone.

I can’t stand the guy, and his antics as president have driven my blood pressure through the roof, but we really shouldn’t be relying on the hope that he’ll be booted from office. In part, because, as we know, a Republican will still be president. Our jobs are to keep Republicans from destroying the country, and fighting to take it back.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 7:25:03am

re: #299 LastYearsMan

With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special counsel appointed!

— Donald J. Trump

Both were pretty scandal free, dumbhead.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 7:25:04am

re: #314 Joe Bacon

Yes and I wonder how many times he’s going to fuck up during his upcoming trip!

One shudders to contemplate how much humiliation our nation will suffer as Trump stumbles across the world stage repeatedly putting his foot in his mouth and insulting our allies.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 7:25:24am
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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 7:26:07am

re: #316 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I can’t even. When “investigating” means going to a pizza parlor with a rifle to “have a look around”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 7:27:21am

re: #326 Apocalypse

I can’t even. When “investigating” means going to a pizza parlor with a rifle to “have a look around”.

And “researching” means reading conspiracy-crank web-sites.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 7:29:29am

re: #118 sagehen

(Repeating the tweet because I think it’s important)

The person being interviewed makes an interesting point that I though should be pursued further by people to see if the evidence holds: The center right really determines the stability of a democracy. If they are strong enough to be self contained, then things are stable; if they have to rely on the far right to maintain power, then things will fall apart quickly.

I suspect you need both the center left and center right to be stable in order for democracy to work. Right now, center right conservatives are weak.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:30:24am

re: #328 Belafon

(Repeating the tweet because I think it’s important)

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The person being interviewed makes an interesting point that I though should be pursued further by people to see if the evidence holds: The center right really determines the stability of a democracy. If they are strong enough to be self contained, then things are stable; if they have to rely on the far right to maintain power, then things will fall apart quickly.

I suspect you need both the center left and center right to be stable in order for democracy to work. Right now, center right conservatives are weak.

I understand what Bruce is saying but calling the GOP establishment the center-right is a stretch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 7:31:55am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I understand what Bruce is saying but calling the GOP establishment the center-right is a stretch.

Agreed. Even the establishment GOP are far right nutballs at this point.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 7:32:44am

re: #328 Belafon

(Repeating the tweet because I think it’s important)

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The person being interviewed makes an interesting point that I though should be pursued further by people to see if the evidence holds: The center right really determines the stability of a democracy. If they are strong enough to be self contained, then things are stable; if they have to rely on the far right to maintain power, then things will fall apart quickly.

I suspect you need both the center left and center right to be stable in order for democracy to work. Right now, center right conservatives are weak.

The center left across much of the democratic world is weak as well.

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 7:33:25am

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

The only problem is that Trump is still the President, and likely will be for many more months.

Much less of a problem than it was yesterday.

The RWNJ Agenda is in serious jeopardy at this point. That happens when everyone on that side will be trying to spin the un-spinnable.

And don’t think for a minute that the intel community is done fucking with him. They’ve just started.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:33:40am

re: #330 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. Even the establishment GOP are far right nutballs at this point.

The Speaker is a frigging Ayn Rand fanboy and the Majority Whip wanted to be Duke without the baggage.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:34:28am

re: #331 Big Beautiful Door

The center left across much of the democratic world is weak as well.

It is. And my hope is in the coming years, it grows stronger. The center-left is how we get progress in general.

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caseyjr  May 18, 2017 • 7:35:34am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

Hannity “Leave his family alone in their time of grief” eff you. Like you left Seth Rich’s family alone all week?
Hannity “Has a head start on preparing to kick your ass in the next life” OMG, the afterlife, like this life, is all about revenge-seeking for these lunatics.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 7:36:17am

A thought problem for all of you: How do we use Trump to destroy Fox as a news power? That has to be a goal.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 7:37:21am

re: #314 Joe Bacon

Yes and I wonder how many times he’s going to fuck up during his upcoming trip!

The thing is Trump’s issues are now very out in the open. He will be watched like he has never been watched. Every move will be scrutinized.

And that is going to drive him and his admin crazy. Pressure will not be good for any of them.

Time for resignations from many to get out from under the black cloud that will now be hovering over the White House.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 7:38:00am

re: #229 lawhawk

Maybe Hannity should consider getting a head start like Roger.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 7:38:03am

re: #332 makeitstop

Much less of a problem than it was yesterday.

The RWNJ Agenda is in serious jeopardy at this point. That happens when everyone on that side will be trying to spin the un-spinnable.

And don’t think for a minute that the intel community is done fucking with him. They’ve just started.

I will feel relief when Trump no longer has the most powerful military in the world available as his personal plaything.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:38:04am

re: #335 caseyjr

Hannity “Leave his family alone in their time of grief” eff you. Like you left Seth Rich’s family alone all week?
Hannity “Has a head start on preparing to kick your ass in the next life” OMG, the afterlife, like this life, is all about revenge-seeking for these lunatics.

Yes.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2017 • 7:38:48am

re: #337 ObserverArt

This should be played over loudspeaker wherever Trump goes.

The Police - Every Breath You Take

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 7:38:58am
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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 7:39:13am

re: #317 Joe Bacon

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The Deep State Shit he is in is out to get Trump.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 7:41:35am

Given the voracity of incriminating evidence against Trump that’s leaking out, combined with his inability to lay low and not say/do stupid things… remaining in office becomes a 1,000 cut slow-bleed death.

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 7:41:47am

re: #336 Belafon

A thought problem for all of you: How do we use Trump to destroy Fox as a news power? That has to be a goal.

They’re going to help it along themselves - the edict has come down that Fox News spokesmodels can wear pantsuits now.

There goes half of the Old Perv demographic right there.

And the guy I was talking about last week, Rich O’Brien - who got my old bandmate a gig writing bumper music for Fox - gets a mention as one of the Ailes guys who got bounced

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Lupin  May 18, 2017 • 7:43:08am

A shame Ailes avoided Julius Streicher’s fate. He deserved it.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 7:44:24am

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:45:24am

I just feel like whenver someone like Ailes or Breitbart who was anything but kind to those he went up against ideologically that we be “respectful.” I do feel for Ailes family but at the same time, I do feel the guy was a huge contributor to a lot of negative shit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2017 • 7:45:25am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:46:15am

re: #349 GlutenFreeJesus

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It’s worse what he’s doing to Rich. Ailes was a public figure. Rich was some kid who worked at the DNC.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 18, 2017 • 7:46:40am

re: #160 Anymouse

I have several magazines to go through from the mail: The Economist, Nebraska Municipal Review, and The Journal of Irreproducible Results (the last is definitely my favourite of the three).

Irreproducible Results is brilliant.

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 7:47:21am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I understand what Bruce is saying but calling the GOP establishment the center-right is a stretch.

But they used to be, that’s his point. They thought they could co-opt the far right for their own ends, and found themselves swallowed.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:47:46am

re: #352 sagehen

But they used to be, that’s his point. They thought they could co-opt the far right for their own ends, and found themselves swallowed.

Oh true.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 7:48:28am

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 7:48:29am

re: #346 Lupin

A shame Ailes avoided Julius Streicher’s fate. He deserved it.

Gabriel Sherman, however, is a goddam hero whose hard work and persistence helped take Ailes down, and is slowly but surely doing the same to Ailes’ hand-crafted monsters.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 7:48:34am

re: #349 GlutenFreeJesus

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 7:49:16am

Why are Cotton and Sasse ambushing people outside the Senate gym?

Sasse seems to be in a humorous mood this AM…

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 7:49:56am

re: #345 makeitstop

They’re going to help it along themselves - the edict has come down that Fox News spokesmodels can wear pantsuits now.

There goes half of the Old Perv demographic right there.

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Aunt Ethel: “Harry, I notice you are no longer spending all your waking hours glued to the TV watching Fox News. Are you losing interest in Trump, Ryan and McConnell?”

Uncle Harry: “$@(#, the girls are wearing pants…I won’t stand for it. Fox is dead to me!!!”

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:49:57am

re: #356 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Or how the right pushed VInce Foster CTs for years. Yeah fuck off Lumpy. Ailes was happy to push this shit on other people. Let’s look at the prick’s legacy of treating women and racial minorities like shit because he was a resentful fat prick.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 7:50:21am

re: #299 LastYearsMan

With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special counsel appointed!

— Donald J. Trump

The GOP’s president, Mr. Personal Responsibility right here.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 7:50:52am

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

Why are Cotton and Sasse ambushing people outside the Senate gym?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 7:52:08am

re: #358 ObserverArt

Aunt Ethel: “Harry, I notice you are no longer spending all your waking hours glued to the TV watching Fox News. Are you losing interest in Trump, Ryan and McConnell?”

Uncle Harry: “$@(#, the girls are wearing pants…I won’t stand for it. Fox is dead to me!!!”

It’s an opportunity for fringier Conservative propaganda outlets to put their female propagandists in bikinis.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 7:52:13am
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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 7:52:15am

re: #318 lawhawk

What GOPer will want Trump or anyone in the Admin campaigning for them? What GOPer will want Trump fundraising for them?

The investigation casts a pall over everything that the GOP does, and even if an individual GOPer attempts to firewall themselves against Trump, the fact is that they’re still pushing Trump’s egregious agenda in Congress - whether it’s the Trumpcare baffling BS (for which there still isn’t a score on their latest effort), or the tax reform that is all about burden shifting from the rich to everyone else.

These are ready made ads for Democrats, who can get a bulk discount by cutting the same ad 435 different ways.

Not to argue too much with your point, but I think you may have one piece of the comment backwards. Is the Congressional GOP really “pushing Trump’s egregious agenda”, or is it the other way round? Myself, I see it more as the Republicans pushing their own agenda, and relying on President Trump’s 1) perceived “popularity” and 2) ready pen to front for their greedy retrograde policies. Of course, there are exceptions (immigration “policy” for one), and a lot of GOP expectations have blown up in their faces; but if you look at the “Trump agenda” so far, it has mainly been “accomplished” (“inflicted”?) via Executive Orders: the one big legislative push (healthcare) has been - so far - a failure.

Of course, this is only what one would expect when a President’s “agenda” consists mainly of shallow and/or hollow campaign sound-bite sloganeering: and said President is too grossly incompetent at governing to do more than tweet sputtering inanities at odd hours, but there we are: can’t say we didn’t have warnings….

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 7:54:10am
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 7:54:53am

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 7:56:57am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

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Yet these are the same people who think the emails were the scandal of the fucking century. They deserve Trump.People like this deserve Trump. They really fucking do. Keep on shooting yourselves in the feet dumbasses and bitching about liberals. WE’ve tried being nice to you but you repeatedly spit in our faces.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 7:57:27am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

I’ll remember these pleas as I watch Obama Birther reruns on Faux.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 7:58:24am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

MSNBC on location in NC explaining how voters are pleading for people to give Trump a chance and stop the “witch hunt.” I just can’t.

— Jodi Beggs

Dear Trump Voters: It’s only gonna get worst. You’re man is incompetent, corrupt and perhaps treasonous.

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lizardofid  May 18, 2017 • 7:58:45am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

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That’s like pleading with the bartender to give your drunk friend his keys.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 7:59:14am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

You expect people who are seeing the propaganda Fox is spewing to come to their senses just because Muller is going to investigate?

I’m not sure what the current equivalent to showing citizens the concentration camps in their back yards is, but it’s going to take something pretty shocking to get some of these people out of their current state.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 7:59:37am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

MSNBC on location in NC explaining how voters are pleading for people to give Trump a chance and stop the “witch hunt.” I just can’t.

— Jodi Beggs

From the people who weaponized the Benghazi tragedy into eleventy “investigations” and whose favorite campaign theme was Lock Her Up.

Spit.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:00:05am

Mueller will be a liberal Democrat to the Trumpkin by the end of teh week and I may be off, may be the end of today.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 8:00:10am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:00:18am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

I’m running out of “WTF?”s

Trump doesn’t have anything to hide, does he?

/

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John Carter  May 18, 2017 • 8:00:33am

re: #297 Myron Falwell

Posting that Dark Helmet video above got me on a Spaceballs kick.

So of course Ailes is Pizza the Hutt… who somehow got locked inside the back seat of his stretched limo and ate himself to death.

Someone, I’m sure, will create a Java/Lea Ailes/Kelly strangulation​ mash up.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:00:50am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

From the people who weaponized the Benghazi tragedy into eleventy “investigations” and whose favorite campaign theme was Lock Her Up.

Spit.

As I said, I’ve given up giving a fuck about these people. If our policies help them, so be it but I really don’t want to hear from a certain Vermont senator on how we need to bring them into our coalition.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 8:01:00am

FFS you know I have not seen EVEN ONE interview with a Hillary voter saying I TOLD YOU SO but here’s yet another “economically anxious white guy”

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:02:52am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

FFS you know I have not seen EVEN ONE interview with a Hillary voter saying I TOLD YOU SO but here’s yet another “economically anxious white guy”

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That’s a woman but your point is well made. I’m sick of this too. There are plenty of working class people who sw right through Trump’s bs. Wehre are their stories?

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:03:48am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

FFS you know I have not seen EVEN ONE interview with a Hillary voter saying I TOLD YOU SO but here’s yet another “economically anxious white guy”

It’s May 18. Our so-called liberal media is still running Trump Voter segments?

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 8:03:52am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

FFS you know I have not seen EVEN ONE interview with a Hillary voter saying I TOLD YOU SO but here’s yet another “economically anxious white guy”

White men are the default.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 8:03:56am

Another bad thing about this Administration I didn’t know about. In reading this article about Puerto Rico, I found out that The White House has removed its Spanish language page from its website. Nice!

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:04:08am

So it’s clear, I will NEVER stop supporting things like disaster relief, attempts to revitalize areas negatively impacted by jobs moving overseas,, etc but so many people who live in these places are fucking ostriches with their heads up theri asses.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 8:04:29am

re: #380 Sir John Barron

It’s May 18. Our so-called liberal media is still running Trump Voter segments?

Sanders is still running for office.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 8:05:28am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

So it’s clear, I will NEVER stop supporting things like disaster relief, attempts to revitalize areas negatively impacted by jobs moving overseas,, etc but so many people who live in these places are fucking ostriches with their heads up theri asses.

Quick, someone with some art skills make that the GOP logo.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:05:30am

Everyone wants to pity the poor miners. Okay, what about the immigrant who worries about their family literally being separated because of Trump’s policies. Where are theri stories? Oh and when the media does talk about them, teh usual suspects accuse the media of trying to “raciall divide” us. No, you assholes, you support the most racially divisive president ever.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:06:02am

re: #384 Belafon

Sanders is still running for office.

Yep.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2017 • 8:06:10am

re: #382 Big Beautiful Door

They replaced it with Russian…

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 8:06:34am

And another one catches on.

Jim Robinson
7 mins
Received a note from John. He still has a lot of work to do before he can install. Looks like we won’t be ready tonight. Looking at tomorrow, Sorry.
facebook.com … 947571160/

Paul Czarnecki
10 hrs
Someones thot’s on FR downtimes::
lyde Boyd: You dont have to be sherlock holmes to figure out that the fr donations dont go to equipment or maintenance but likely income for the family and friends. No server goes down as much as fr. No wonder there is never a financial accounting posted for donors to see where the money goes.
facebook.com … 697541160/

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John Carter  May 18, 2017 • 8:06:42am

re: #322 Belafon

In the scenario that is “Trump is president”, hindering his and the Republican agenda is a huge thing. We have Trump no matter what until he’s gone.

I can’t stand the guy, and his antics as president have driven my blood pressure through the roof, but we really shouldn’t be relying on the hope that he’ll be booted from office. In part, because, as we know, a Republican will still be president. Our jobs are to keep Republicans from destroying the country, and fighting to take it back.

This is true. This investigation will hinder them and distract until the next election.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:06:53am

re: #381 Belafon

White men are the default.

Our media just can’t help themselves.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 8:07:33am

re: #381 Belafon

White men are the default.

Pretty much everywhere. In video games where you can configure your character, it usually starts as a white male, and you make changes from there.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:08:35am
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:08:39am

I don’t always like Buzzfeed but they ran a great article by an Arab-American young woman from the Scranton area who talked about what it’s like to live in one of those “WWC” areas if you’re non white. It’s always a white coal miner, a white steel worker, etc even though racial minorities have worked in those industries too.

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 8:08:52am

re: #384 Belafon

Sanders is still running for office.

Have any of the lamestream media outlets reported about his wife being under criminal investigation for bank fraud?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 8:09:16am

re: #389 Skip Intro

And another one catches on.

I’m pretty sure that FR is an ancient desktop PC that isn’t even backed up.
RAID and backups are a Leftist plot to be avoided.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:09:42am

looks like Spicy won’t even last as long as Stephanopoulos. George made it to June 7th

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 8:10:17am

re: #385 Belafon

Quick, someone with some art skills make that the GOP logo.

I already have a redone GOP logo.

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 8:11:27am

re: #396 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m pretty sure that FR is an ancient desktop PC that isn’t even backed up.
RAID and backups are a Leftist plot to be avoided.

I for one miss the good old days of people running webservers out of their closet.

///

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:12:48am

re: #389 Skip Intro

And another one catches on.

Gosh, DT is under fire and FR is down for the count, unable to rally the troops.

/

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 8:12:51am

A wingnut family member is insisting to me that HURR HURR WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZED TO CERNOVICH!!!11!!!!

I am pretty sure that never happened. WaPo published an article critical of Cernovich back in April but no apology that I can find other than Cernovich screaming for one.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 8:13:32am

re: #397 FormerDirtDart

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More blaming others. Spicer’s attitude is reflective of your own Donny.

Face it Donny. Everyone knows the problem.

You.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 18, 2017 • 8:13:35am

re: #230 ObserverArt

Damn, you are really good. And, fast.

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Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 8:14:07am

re: #400 Sir John Barron

Gosh, DT is under fire and FR is down for the count, unable to rally the troops.

/

That’s what happens when the militia doesn’t put any effort into command, control, and communications.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 8:14:18am

re: #402 ObserverArt

More blaming others. Spicer’s attitude is reflective of your own Donny.

Face it Donny. Everyone knows the problem.

You.

Sure, but Trump can’t fire and replace himself, so others have to take care of that.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:16:08am

re: #402 ObserverArt

More blaming others. Spicer’s attitude is reflective of your own Donny.

Face it Donny. Everyone knows the problem.

You.

re: #405 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Sure, but Trump can’t fire and replace himself, so others have to take care of that.

I was wondering if he would be able to last longer than Stephanopoulos.
George made it to June 7th

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 8:16:44am

re: #392 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Pretty much everywhere. In video games where you can configure your character, it usually starts as a white male, and you make changes from there.

whatever.scalzi.com

Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 18, 2017 • 8:16:45am
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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 8:16:50am

re: #403 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Damn, you are really good. And, fast.

Thanks.

I have a lot of experience. If I can find the right images it doesn’t take long. Photoshop is pretty much open on my one desktop all day long. Same with Corel Draw, my favorite for quick vector line creation for type and little embellishments.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 8:17:16am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

Did you ask (Not that you’d get it but) for printed evidence? And if they did say sorry to Cerny, It was “Sorry you were born”.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 8:19:03am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

FFS you know I have not seen EVEN ONE interview with a Hillary voter saying I TOLD YOU SO but here’s yet another “economically anxious white guy”

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Yeah, well: I recall that Hillary Clinton - and Democrats in general - DID address these peoples’ “economic anxieties” during the campaign: the really economic ones, that is: not their racism, nativism and/or cultural bigotries. The problem was that she told them something like reality: that their industry was dying, that domestic and global market forces were making coal obsolete, and that their main economic hope for the future was a massive redirection and retraining effort to move into other, non-coal sectors.
Trump and the GOP, OTOH, kept their message simple: your economic problems are your social “enemies” fault (dirty-hippie, sneery-librul, fake-science elitists who hate you and your religion): and that he would bring back their economic glory-days with a few strokes of the pen.

The bedrock problem of the American System: Democrats appeal to peoples’ interests: Republicans appeal to peoples’ hates.
Who is likelier to come out ahead???

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:19:13am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

A wingnut family member is insisting to me that HURR HURR WASHINGTON POST APOLOGIZED TO CERNOVICH!!!11!!!!

I am pretty sure that never happened. WaPo published an article critical of Cernovich back in April but no apology that I can find other than Cernovich screaming for one.

What was Cernovich complaining about with the Wash Post?

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:19:45am

re: #395 Timothy Watson

Have any of the lamestream media outlets reported about his wife being under criminal investigation for bank fraud?

Gets in the way of his tours. I’m so sick of those by the way. It should be obvious that it’s his way of trying to get a jump start in the 2020 election. Unfortunately for Bernie, I think he won’t do nearly as well in 2020. People I think will see the flaws he has now that he will have more scrutiny now.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 8:21:46am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Can’t quite remember but, wasn’t his wife the one who does the taxes in their house or something?

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:22:56am

re: #411 Jay C

Yeah, well: I recall that Hillary Clinton - and Democrats in general - DID address these peoples’ “economic anxieties” during the campaign: the really economic ones, that is: not their racism, nativism and/or cultural bigotries. The problem was that she told them something like reality: that their industry was dying, that domestic and global market forces were making coal obsolete, and that their main economic hope for the future was a massive redirection and retraining effort to move into other, non-coal sectors.
Trump and the GOP, OTOH, kept their message simple: your economic problems are your social “enemies” fault (dirty-hippie, sneery-librul, fake-science elitists who hate you and your religion): and that he would bring back their economic glory-days with a few strokes of the pen.

The bedrock problem of the American System: Democrats appeal to peoples’ interests: Republicans appeal to peoples’ hates.
Who is likelier to come out ahead???

Clinton was much more honest with them than either Sanders or Trump was. And many of them hated her for that. TBH, the coal mining industry in Johnstown, Pa where my mom’s folks are from was declining when Grandpa got home from Korea. While I don’t doubt that eh respected his father and father in law’s work as coal miners, that was not the future he wanted for him and any children he would have. See, this is why I don’t like the helpless miner trope. My grandpa was a high school dropout who ended up changing trades. Too many of these miners seem to think that just because their daddy and their daddy’s daddy were miners that they need to be too.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:24:08am

re: #414 Apocalypse

Can’t quite remember but, wasn’t his wife the one who does the taxes in their house or something?

I think so, yes. Either way they were not transparent about their taxes either. Very disappointing for someone who makes a big deal out of how we need transparency in government which I’d be the first to agree with but transparency starts at home and Senator and Mrs. Sanders don’t have that.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 8:25:04am
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:25:14am
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:26:41am

Coal mining was once a way of life for many Americans. So was farmng. Economies transition. I know it’s tough to go into a new field and line of work but why should miners and steel workers be coddled and told otherwise? By all means, revitaize these areas negatively impacted by the loss of jobs but coal and steel aren’t what they were in our grandparents’ lives just as agriculture wasn’t for them what is was for their grandparents.

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Scottish Dragon  May 18, 2017 • 8:26:52am

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 8:27:08am
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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 8:27:15am

re: #418 FormerDirtDart

“I’m sorry. My responses are limited. You must ask the right questions.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 8:27:36am
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:28:22am

re: #420 Scottish Dragon

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Jesus Christ: Savior or liberal rabble rauser, next on Hell News: Fair and Roasted.

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Scottish Dragon  May 18, 2017 • 8:28:26am
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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 8:28:40am

I walk away from the computer to send emails etc. & come back to 108 comments?

Thread is on fire.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:28:40am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:29:10am

re: #425 Scottish Dragon

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The bullshit he spread impacted so many people including many we care about and love.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:29:44am

re: #422 Belafon

“I’m sorry. My responses are limited. You must ask the right questions.”

Nice reference

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 8:29:49am

re: #412 Sir John Barron

What was Cernovich complaining about with the Wash Post?

Wash Post wrote some unflattering articles about him, calling him a whacko alt-right conspiracy nutjob who specializes in FAAAKE NOOOZ.

Which is of course true.

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 8:30:05am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

Burr and Warner tell reporters that Flynn will not honor the Senate Intel subpoena

Welp…lock him up.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 8:30:28am
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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 8:31:15am

re: #432 Dr. Matt

All the above?

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:31:40am

Next on Hell News, are we complaining too much about our eternal damnation?

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:31:43am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

FFS you know I have not seen EVEN ONE interview with a Hillary voter saying I TOLD YOU SO but here’s yet another “economically anxious white guy”

You know in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off where they show a copy of that afternoon’s paper that has an article about Ferris supposedly being sick, “Town Rallies Around Sick Youth”?

That’s what this constant stream of Trump voter stories by the media remind me of.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 8:33:13am

re: #427 FormerDirtDart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 8:34:21am
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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 8:34:30am

re: #325 FormerDirtDart

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 8:34:31am

re: #433 Apocalypse

All the above?

Unforunately I wasn’t allowed a 5th choice.

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Citizen K  May 18, 2017 • 8:34:38am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 8:35:34am

re: #438 MsJ

Just to put all of the Trump/Comey/Russia/Flynn developments of last 12-16 hrs in one place nbcnews.com pic.twitter.com

— Mark Murray

STOP THE WITCH-HUNT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY AND THE CLINTON FOUNDATION AND GEORGE SOROS AND BARACK OBAMA’S DEEP STATE?

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 8:35:38am

re: #432 Dr. Matt

Rupert Murdoch is the correct answer seeing how much money Ailes cost him.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 8:36:03am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart

Other than Schumer…who’s in that picture?

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:36:11am

re: #440 Citizen K

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It’s like we have forgotten that Clinton won the popular vote by nearly three million votes. To put things in perspective, that’s larger than thwn nearly 20 states. I know EC is the law of the land but damn it, you can’t ignore that.

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Citizen K  May 18, 2017 • 8:36:20am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

Everyone wants to pity the poor miners. Okay, what about the immigrant who worries about their family literally being separated because of Trump’s policies. Where are theri stories? Oh and when the media does talk about them, teh usual suspects accuse the media of trying to “raciall divide” us. No, you assholes, you support the most racially divisive president ever.

As always, they don’t count, because they’re not “real Americans”. Not like Trump voters are, as we are so consistently reminded…

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:36:41am

re: #443 MsJ

Other than Schumer…who’s in that picture?

Cotton and Sasse. Sasse is the suit and Cotton is the bro looking guy.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 8:37:09am

Trump wanted to land his helicopter atop Masada where he could give a speech. The IAF and IAA rejected; instead he’ll give his speech at the Israel Museum. Other US presidents have visited the site, landing at the base and taking the cable car to the summit.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 8:37:41am

Damn. Flynn must be really in deep.

And nobody tells Donny Trump no. Nobody.

Trump is really scared of what is going on. Flynn is hiding and Donny wants to talk to him. Sounds like Trump wants to tell him if Flynn keeps quiet, he will reward him. Problem is if Flynn is setting in a Federal prison, what can Trump do for him?

This is all going to blow up very soon. It is reaching critical mass. I bet the FBI and CIA is very busy right now. I bet the White House is being watched very closely. The pressure in there has got to be high.

All it is going to take for Trump to blow is one thin wafer mint.

Better get a bucket.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:37:57am

re: #445 Citizen K

As always, they don’t count, because they’re not “real Americans”. Not like Trump voters are, as we are so consistently reminded…

Exactly and man I hate that. And let mind remind you all again, my forefathers were miners. I know how much miners sacrfice for their families but so do immigrants and others whose stories we’re not hearing because the media wants a pity party for people who refuse to accept economies transition.

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Citizen K  May 18, 2017 • 8:38:15am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

It’s like we have forgotten that Clinton won the popular vote by nearly three million votes. To put things in perspective, that’s larger than thwn nearly 20 states. I know EC is the law of the land but damn it, you can’t ignore that.

Sure you can. Trump does it every day when he looks longingly at the electoral map he’s has haunting the West Wing halls now.

And print/TV media sure has gone out of its way to ignore it too, judging by Trump voter hagiography #834,394,384.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:38:31am

re: #447 lawhawk

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Trump wanted to land his helicopter atop Masada where he could give a speech. The IAF and IAA rejected; instead he’ll give his speech at the Israel Museum. Other US presidents have visited the site, landing at the base and taking the cable car to the summit.

Lazy fat slug.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 8:38:52am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Cotton and Sasse. Sasse is the suit and Cotton is the bro looking guy.

Sasse is in gym clothes. Cotton looks like Cotton, stiff asshole.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:39:15am

re: #443 MsJ

Other than Schumer…who’s in that picture?

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Cotton and Sasse. Sasse is the suit and Cotton is the bro looking guy.

Opposite. Cotton in suit, Sasse sitting on the wall

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:39:17am

re: #450 Citizen K

Sure you can. Trump does it every day when he looks longingly at the electoral map he’s has haunting the West Wing halls now.

And print/TV media sure has gone out of its way to ignore it too, judging by Trump voter hagiography #834,394,384.

Motherfucker thinks he won in Nixon, Reagan, or FDR fashion.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:39:30am

re: #453 FormerDirtDart

Opposite. Cotton in suit, Sasse sitting on the wall

D’oh!

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 8:39:38am

re: #364 Jay C

Not to argue too much with your point, but I think you may have one piece of the comment backwards. Is the Congressional GOP really “pushing Trump’s egregious agenda”, or is it the other way round? Myself, I see it more as the Republicans pushing their own agenda, and relying on President Trump’s 1) perceived “popularity” and 2) ready pen to front for their greedy retrograde policies. Of course, there are exceptions (immigration “policy” for one), and a lot of GOP expectations have blown up in their faces; but if you look at the “Trump agenda” so far, it has mainly been “accomplished” (“inflicted”?) via Executive Orders: the one big legislative push (healthcare) has been - so far - a failure.

Of course, this is only what one would expect when a President’s “agenda” consists mainly of shallow and/or hollow campaign sound-bite sloganeering: and said President is too grossly incompetent at governing to do more than tweet sputtering inanities at odd hours, but there we are: can’t say we didn’t have warnings….

Agreed. Trump is a puppet to whomever says nice things to him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 8:40:03am

re: #447 lawhawk

Inconsiderate lazy ass fuck.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:40:06am
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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 8:40:33am

So does Flynn go to jail for refusing to respond to subpoena? How does this work?

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:41:02am
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SteelPH  May 18, 2017 • 8:41:02am

So Roger Ailes is dead… Condolences to his family, but I will not mourn the man.

Though neither will I celebrate his passing.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 8:41:17am

By Flynn denying the subpoena - shit just got real.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 8:41:21am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

Mobility issues? Or some kind of phobia perhaps?

It’d be irresponsible not to speculate. /

I’ve done Masada 2x. The first, we hiked up for dawn. I was a kid back then, and raced up.
The second time, I was taking the Mrs for our anniversary. Took the cable car up, but hiked down. No matter how you do it, it’s spectacular and humbling to know what happened there.

Not that Trump cares. He was just thinking of the backdrop and visuals.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 8:41:47am

re: #443 MsJ

Other than Schumer…who’s in that picture?

Tommy Cotton, the thin man in the suit. Ben Sasse in the shorts on the wall. The young GP guys talking to ol’ man Schumer. Methinks they are ready to deal. I still predict a break up in the GOP. There are going to be deep divisions and fractures. The young guys still have long futures. McConnell and the other elders may well be sacrificed.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:43:00am

re: #463 lawhawk

Mobility issues? Or some kind of phobia perhaps?

It’d be irresponsible not to speculate. /

I’ve done Masada 2x. The first, we hiked up for dawn. I was a kid back then, and raced up.
The second time, I was taking the Mrs for our anniversary. Took the cable car up, but hiked down. No matter how you do it, it’s spectacular and humbling to know what happened there.

Not that Trump cares. He was just thinking of the backdrop and visuals.

It looks like a beautiful site. I’m seeing some of the Alps this summer myself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 8:43:18am

I wonder if Flynn thinks he’ll be able to 5th amendment himself out of this one…

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:43:34am

re: #464 ObserverArt

Tommy Cotton, the thin man in the suit. Ben Sasse in the shorts on the wall. The young GP guys talking to ol’ man Schumer. Methinks they are ready to deal. I still predict a break up in the GOP. There are going to be deep divisions and fractures. The young guys still have long futures. McConnell and the other elders may well be sacrificed.

I’d be careful with Cotton. That guy is a rat fuck.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 8:43:39am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

I know it’s tough to go into a new field and line of work but why should miners and steel workers be coddled and told otherwise?

Basically because they are a voting bloc, who can be appealed to as a voting bloc, and will vote - often as a bloc - for whatever party/politician will pander to their prejudices and (real) economic anxieties.

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 8:44:43am

re: #179 Timothy Watson

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 8:45:07am

re: #447 lawhawk

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I’m so old, they didn’t have a cable car when I went. I had to WALK!! all the way up.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:46:21am

re: #468 Jay C

Basically because they are a voting bloc, who can be appealed to as a voting bloc, and will vote - often as a bloc - for whatever party/politician will pander to their prejudices and (real) economic anxieties.

I really think we on the left too have created this romantic notion of the miner and steel worker too. I eman I get it to an extent, my mom’s grandfathers came here from Slovenia adn Slovakia not speaking a ick of English and worked in the mines for over 30 years and provided for their families but I really think tehy had bigger dreams for their children, grandchildren, and other descendants. My grandfatehr was a brick mason, ended up living a longer and healthier life than either his father or father in law. My mom and uncle became among the first in their families to get college degrees. And I myself work in the legal field.

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 8:46:46am

re: #199 Scout

Speaking of Ailes, this kind of flew under the radar:

Trump Associates Said to Have Helped Roger Ailes Target His Enemies

My surprised face. Let me show you it:///

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 8:47:08am

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 8:47:18am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course he will.

Chaffetz told POLITICO last month he had begun exploring employment outside Congress. Several sources in the Capitol say Chaffetz has told his colleagues he will appear on Fox News.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 8:48:04am
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Interesting Times  May 18, 2017 • 8:48:19am

re: #442 Skip Intro

Rupert Murdoch is the correct answer seeing how much money Ailes cost him.

I must confess that much of the schadenfreude I can’t help but feel is that Ailes is no longer in good condition to enjoy his multi-million-dollar golden parachute.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 8:49:16am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

I’d be careful with Cotton. That guy is a rat fuck.

Exactly. He will sell anyone out. I think he turns rat on Republicans.

I keep saying it is time for some Republican to act like they are heroes and saving this country. If there is enough facts and evidence to bring down some establishment Republicans, points can be scored with the GOP base. It will be tricky.

Maybe Cotton is the heavy and Sasse the brains. Schumer is from New York, he knows how to deal with rats. Set the bait and have them take it back to the rat nest to share.

Damn, this is getting good. Fuck reality TV…you can’t write this stuff.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 8:49:20am

re: #474 MsJ

Of course he will.

Jason was waiting for the pantsuit rule to go in effect.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:49:57am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 8:51:23am

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:54:00am
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:57:39am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  May 18, 2017 • 8:57:58am

re: #344 Myron Falwell

My aunt and I were texting last night about the avalanche of scandals engulfing the Trump administration, and she nailed it: “Death by a thousand cucks.”

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 8:59:07am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

So he’s changing his Twitter handle to @JasonOutOfTheHouse then?

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 8:59:18am

re: #483 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 8:59:41am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:00:38am

I can dream

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I cannot.  May 18, 2017 • 9:00:40am

re: #485 Myron Falwell

You mean @JasonOuthouse

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 9:01:03am

re: #484 Flying Squirrel Girl

I think I’d get along great with your aunt. ;)

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:02:02am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart

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3 part series . .

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 9:02:02am

re: #477 ObserverArt

I’d be careful with Cotton. That guy is a rat fuck.

Exactly. He will sell anyone out. I think he turns rat on Republicans.

I keep saying it is time for some Republican to act like they are heroes and saving this country. If there is enough facts and evidence to bring down some establishment Republicans, points can be scored with the GOP base. It will be tricky.

Maybe Cotton is the heavy and Sasse the brains. Schumer is from New York, he knows how to deal with rats. Set the bait and have them take it back to the rat nest to share.

Damn, this is getting good. Fuck reality TV…you can’t write this stuff.

The first time I saw a picture of Tom Cotton, the first image that came to me was that he was a real-life version of Greg Stillson from TV’s The Dead Zone. Only that one didn’t need psychic powers to sense that this guy was bad news. He’s supposed to be ambitious (like in White House ambitious), and is a thorough GOP wingnut tightly plugged into the wingnut political machine. That said, I’m sure he would toss Trump under the #25A bus in a heartbeat: and I have a feeling that he figures “Senate Majority Leader Cotton” (or even “Senate Minority Leader Cotton”) is going to make a nice addition to his resume…

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:03:24am

re: #475 Dr. Matt

Arrogance isn’t a strong enough word to describe Trump.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:06:16am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Cotton and Sasse. Sasse is the suit and Cotton is the bro looking guy.

It’s funny. This is apparently “a thing” but I can’t help thinking about what Biden said about his time in the Senate…that they all ate lunch together. They knew each other’s families. They didn’t see The Other Side as enemies (or worse, which is highly ironic right now) as traitors.

I actually like seeing this. I think it bodes well for governing in America.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:06:30am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 9:06:55am
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 9:07:27am

OK, mid-day sanity break…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 9:07:50am

re: #496 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or maybe burned at the Trump stake?

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:08:34am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

I’d be careful with Cotton. That guy is a rat fuck.

Yeah. He is a true believer. Didn’t he go to Iran behind Obama’s back?

This guy is a traitor, no matter how he wants to play right now (if!) and I would trust him as far as I could throw the Empire State building.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 9:09:00am
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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 9:10:38am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:11:28am

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KGxvi  May 18, 2017 • 9:11:45am

re: #494 MsJ

It’s funny. This is apparently “a thing” but I can’t help thinking about what Biden said about his time in the Senate…that they all ate lunch together. They knew each other’s families. They didn’t see The Other Side as enemies (or worse, which is highly ironic right now) as traitors.

I actually like seeing this. I think it bodes well for governing in America.

It’s hard to be that standoffish in the Senate, there’s only 100 of them, and they tend to be there for a long time. Plus, there tend to be a lot of lawyers in politics and lawyers have this way of putting aside policy differences to be friendly/cordial (I think we get trained to compartmentalize stuff because in one case we will be arguing X and in the next we will be arguing Not X). Either that, or its all kayfabe after all.

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Archangelus  May 18, 2017 • 9:11:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 9:13:12am

re: #502 Birth Control Works

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:13:49am

Canadian Press:

Donald Trump has now said 250 false things as president.

Here are all of themWASHINGTON—He’s not slowing down.

U.S. President Donald Trump averaged 2.1 false claims per day over the first 100 days of his presidency. Over the next 17, he averaged… 2.1 false claims per day.

Trump has proven uniquely willing to lie, exaggerate and mislead. By all expert accounts, the president is more frequently inaccurate than any before.

We are keeping track. Below is a list of every false claim Trump has made since his inauguration on Jan. 20, 2017.

Why call them false claims, not lies? We can’t be sure that each and every one was intentional; in some cases, he may have been confused or ignorant. What we know, objectively, is that he was not telling the truth.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 9:15:19am

re: #504 Archangelus

Again? Can’t this asshole make up his mind?

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 9:16:13am
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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 9:17:17am

re: #505 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

— Donald J. Trump

Personal responsibility much?

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:17:51am

re: #503 KGxvi

It’s hard to be that standoffish in the Senate, there’s only 100 of them, and they tend to be there for a long time. Plus, there tend to be a lot of lawyers in politics and lawyers have this way of putting aside policy differences to be friendly/cordial (I think we get trained to compartmentalize stuff because in one case we will be arguing X and in the next we will be arguing Not X). Either that, or its all kayfabe after all.

Biden said that is exactly what has happened. The communal lunch room was removed. The left and right sides of the aisle do not speak to each other outside of sessions. It’s bad for America that this is what has happened.

And some of these younger guys (Cotton for example) are Fox News, Breitbart, etc. folks - they grew up on right wing nonsense and are true believers. How do you narrow the divide between people who have been indoctrinated by right wing world? You do what Biden said used to be but no longer is. You humanize each other.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:18:29am

re: #506 Birth Control Works

Canadian Press:

Donald Trump has now said 250 false things as president.

Isn’t that a Canadian right wing newspaper? Hmmm.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:19:14am

Pence faces walk-out at Notre Dame over his anti-LGBT views

Just so you know, Notre Dame is so Catholic their church isn’t a church. It is officially a Bascilica.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:19:42am

re: #511 MsJ

Isn’t that a Canadian right wing newspaper? Hmmm.

no clue— I don’t think of anything in Toronto as being conservative.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:21:54am

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 9:22:04am

Charles Pierce’s eulogy for Fat Roger, the lecher.

Because Roger Ailes was the driving force behind so much of American politics over the past 50 years, almost all of it destructive and foul, I suppose we should deal, however briefly, with his passing at the age of 77.

Let us not make the mistake of saying that his life ended in tragedy. His life was an ongoing tragedy, especially for the women who were degraded by him personally, and by the culture he created in his company. That the last thing that happened to him was that he was run to ground for his crimes against human decency is not tragic. He almost got away with them.

The best thing I can think of to say about him is that he was the central character in one of the most groundbreaking political books of all time, The Selling of the President, 1968 by the late Joe McGinniss.

Let me think some more.

Hmmm…

No, that’s about it.

Nil nisi and all that, but American politics would be infinitely better today if Roger Ailes had gone to barber college.

esquire.com

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 9:22:18am

re: #510 MsJ

Biden said that is exactly what has happened. The communal lunch room was removed. The left and right sides of the aisle do not speak to each other outside of sessions. It’s bad for America that this is what has happened.

And some of these younger guys (Cotton for example) are Fox News, Breitbart, etc. folks - they grew up on right wing nonsense and are true believers. How do you narrow the divide between people who have been indoctrinated by right wing world? You do what Biden said used to be but no longer is. You humanize each other.

Biden has an often told story about how Mike Mansfield got him to see the humanity in Jesse Helms. Biden’s a bigger man than I am because even knowing Helms took in a disabled child to adopt, he was one of the biggest racists and homophobes to serve in the Senate in recent history.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 9:22:37am

re: #511 MsJ

Isn’t that a Canadian right wing newspaper? Hmmm.

No the Canadian Press is roughly the northern equivalent of the AP.

The vast majority of news outlets in Canada are left or center left. The only major right leaning outlets are the ones run by Sun Media.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:22:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 9:24:48am

re: #518 Eclectic Cyborg

No the Canadian Press is roughly the northern equivalent of the AP.

The vast majority of news outlets in Canada are left or center left. The only major right leaning outlets are the ones run by Sun Media.

Well, apparently Sun Media no longer exists but some of the sun outlets still do.

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 9:24:55am
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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:25:03am

re: #513 Birth Control Works

no clue— I don’t think of anything in Toronto as being conservative.

I just checked. Yeah, they are right wing. Not as crazy RW as ours are but definitely RW.

Headlines:
Trudeau cozies up to Iran’s brutal regime
Anti-Trump hysteria serves no one’s interests
EDITORIAL Liberals transparency problems pile up

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:25:16am
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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:26:43am

re: #518 Eclectic Cyborg

No the Canadian Press is roughly the northern equivalent of the AP.

The vast majority of news outlets in Canada are left or center left. The only major right leaning outlets are the ones run by Sun Media.

Which isn’t The Sun?

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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 9:26:47am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:27:48am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:30:00am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:31:49am

Caribbean to Caliphate

Why has the Caribbean island of Trinidad and Tobago become one of the largest recruitment hubs for ISIL in the West?

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dangerman  May 18, 2017 • 9:31:58am

re: #515 Birth Control Works

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 9:32:27am

Hmmm…. when I first saw the trailer for this, I thought this was generally a satire. Now, it looks to be a whole lot more interesting and on point.

War Machine is loosly based on Gens. Flynn, McChrystal, etc.

The writer and director of War Machine, David Michôd, confirmed to me that he had McChrystal’s inner circle in mind in while he was writing the film.

“The loyalty felt like a hugely important part of that bunch of guys,” he said in an email. “A bunch of guys collectively propping up a delusion. And they do this with their unwavering loyalty and admiration for the General. And I know this to be true of these guys in the real world.”

The most common mistake in American journalism these days is overthinking Donald Trump — imputing a strategy, or even a plan, to a cipher who operates on impulse and gut. He has always surrounded himself with a certain kind of man — die-hard loyalists, whose loyalty he mostly returns, sometimes after he fires them.

A friend of Flynn, Michael Isikoff reported today, described the general and the president as “brothers in a foxhole.” And Peter Alexander reported this week that when Flynn, already mired in scandal last fall, requested the job of national security adviser, “Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump made it clear President-elect Trump would certainly approve of that request to reward Flynn’s loyalty.”

Even after he’d forced Flynn out — and on the day he would have his fateful dinner with Comey — Trump was grumbling in public that his former aide-de-camp had been treated “very, very unfairly.”

I’ve been saying this for a while. Trump values personal loyalty above all else, and that’s what drives him more than anything else.

It’s why he ignores legal advice and decides to contact Flynn even now after he’s been fired.

It’s why Trump doesn’t care about competency, only whether someone is loyal to him.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:33:41am

While Trump is providing a useful distraction for all kinds of shennagins, we don’t hear any real news:

UNICEF: Number of unaccompanied refugee children soars

UN says 300,000 unaccompanied child refugees is ‘just the tip of the iceberg’, as many countries do not track total.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 9:36:37am
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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 9:38:23am

You know, one could make the argument that Trump is actually admitting to “illegal acts” in that he’s upset that a special councel [sic] was only appointed to investigate him and not others. Just saying….

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 9:39:36am

re: #532 lawhawk

1 dead, 20 injured in Times Square incident. NYPD says not terrorism, but rather a DUI.

The suspect is in custody.

The yam’s people are breathing a sigh of relief he didn’t tweet about it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 9:40:38am

re: #532 lawhawk

1 dead, 20 injured in Times Square incident. NYPD says not terrorism, but rather a DUI.

The suspect is in custody.

I can’t imagine being that drunk.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 9:41:38am
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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 9:41:51am

re: #532 lawhawk

1 dead, 20 injured in Times Square incident. NYPD says not terrorism, but rather a DUI.

The suspect is in custody.

Under influence of what? Alcohol? Drugs? Fox News?

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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 9:42:33am
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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 9:43:40am

re: #540 Ace-o-aces

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:43:53am

Taliban Oil

The little-known story of secret negotiations between the Taliban and the US to build a pipeline through Afghanistan.

There is a lot going on out beyond the intertubes on which our Press doesn’t focus. One of the inherent problems of capitalism when combined with journalism.

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Interesting Times  May 18, 2017 • 9:47:26am

re: #542 Birth Control Works

Taliban Oil

There is a lot going on out beyond the intertubes on which our Press doesn’t focus. One of the inherent problems of capitalism when combined with journalism.

Whenever I read anything like that, it makes me hope this economist’s predictions come true all the faster:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 9:49:31am

re: #543 Interesting Times

Whenever I read anything like that, it makes me hope this economist’s predictions come true all the faster:

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It’s going to take a lot more than 13 years for all the people with an emotional attachment to having their own car to die off.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 9:49:47am

re: #536 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I can’t imagine being that drunk.

There was a woman I used to work with (loosely…huge company and I didn’t know her) but her son, who was an avid cyclist, was struck by a car - along with several other of his cyclist friends - by a guy who had NINE previous DUIs. He hit seven kids that day. Her son lost his one leg up above his hip. He almost didn’t make it and the only thing that helped him survive was that he was in such good condition and one of the other cyclists knew what to do to keep him alive until medical people arrived on scene which wasn’t immediate as they were not in a big city, it was somewhere in Colorado.

So this kid (I think he was mid-20s) is hit by a jerk who, apparently, felt that it was his right to drive drunk and the kid’s whole life changes in the blink of an eye. We got months and months of updates on his health. Every single one was heartbreaking (and uplifting, TBH). He sold his house and bought a single story one and donations allowed it to be retrofitted with what is needed for someone without full physical abilities.

To this day I don’t know what happened to that drunk. He should have spent life in prison for that. I mean, really, nine DUIs? And he should have been accompanied by any prosecutors who let him off with a slap on the wrist.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 9:50:45am

Net neutrality goes down in flames as FCC votes to kill Title II rules

Be sure to remember to thank your GOP representative.

The Federal Communications Commission voted 2-1 today to start the process of eliminating net neutrality rules and the classification of home and mobile Internet service providers as common carriers under Title II of the Communications Act.

arstechnica.com

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 9:51:45am

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

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Interesting Times  May 18, 2017 • 9:51:56am

re: #544 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s going to take a lot more than 13 years for all the people with an emotional attachment to having their own car to die off.

I thought the same thing, though in one of the articles I read about Tony Seba’s research, they theorized that urban areas would ban that type of car outright due to safety reasons (i.e. self-driving vehicles proving superior to human drivers).

I must say, the ISIS run-over people tactic and today’s Times Square incident could be used as pretext as well…

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 9:53:24am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

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The art of the pointless grand entrance.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 9:53:50am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:54:36am

re: #546 Skip Intro

Net neutrality goes down in flames as FCC votes to kill Title II rules

Be sure to remember to thank your GOP representative.

arstechnica.com

Wanna bet there is some way for Congress Critters to exempt themselves —secure business and personal gadgets.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 9:55:26am

re: #548 Interesting Times

I thought the same thing, though in one of the articles I read about Tony Seba’s research, they theorized that urban areas would ban that type of car outright due to safety reasons (i.e. self-driving vehicles proving superior to human drivers).

I must say, the ISIS run-over people tactic and today’s Times Square incident could be used as pretext as well…

Not by 2030, they won’t. People who think cars are going away probably thought we’d all be on Segways by now. Futurists are mostly just science-fiction writers.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:55:38am

re: #539 Teukka

Under influence of what? Alcohol? Drugs? Fox News?

texting?

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 9:56:17am

re: #554 Birth Control Works

texting?

True. Missed that one.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:56:24am

re: #553 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not by 2030, they won’t. People who think cars are going away probably thought we’d all be on Segways by now. Futurists are mostly just science-fiction writers.

I agree, humans (mostly Americans) LOVE the independence and feeling of power that only a car can provide.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 9:59:00am

New Hampshire Lawmaker Behind ‘RedPill’ Reddit Forum Quits, Citing Safety Fears

Fisher had come under fire after a recent article on The Daily Beast revealed him as the creator of a Reddit forum called “The Red Pill,” which bills itself as a discussion of sexual strategies for men and includes a post in which users debate whether “every woman wants to be attractive enough to be raped.”

The panel simultaneously recommended no action against Democratic Rep. Sherry Frost of Dover, who wrote on Twitter that men telling her to calm down makes her homicidal and that white Christian men represent a terrorist problem.

Rep. Sherman Packard, R-Londonderry, made the motion that the committee recommend no action against either lawmaker, said he didn’t believe the committee could recommend they be censured, reprimanded or expelled based on the constitutionally protected right of free speech.

“I will stand here and sit here forever and defend their freedom of speech no matter how reprehensible I find it, and I find it reprehensible in both cases,” he said.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 10:00:59am

re: #546 Skip Intro

Net neutrality goes down in flames as FCC votes to kill Title II rules

Be sure to remember to thank your GOP representative.

arstechnica.com

It’s not the only rat fucking Aljt Pai(d off) has done today.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 10:01:09am

re: #544 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s going to take a lot more than 13 years for all the people with an emotional attachment to having their own car to die off.

Not to also mention:

1. perfecting “self-driving” auto technology
2. overcoming public fears wrt above
3. constructing/refurbishing an infrastructure for widespread s-ds
4. Making sure said infrastructure is available in low-density areas (paging Anymouse!)

A LOT longer than 13 years…..

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 10:01:50am

re: #539 Teukka

Hubris?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:02:00am

re: #556 Birth Control Works

I agree, humans (mostly Americans) LOVE the independence and feeling of power that only a car can provide.

To me it’s just a steel box that gets me to work, but I used to ride motorcycles, so cars, especially cars as practical as my Prius, inspire no emotions at all.

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Interesting Times  May 18, 2017 • 10:02:15am

re: #556 Birth Control Works

I agree, humans (mostly Americans) LOVE the independence and feeling of power that only a car can provide.

True, although in huge swathes of the US, a car really is the only means of transport available (e.g. rural areas). If a truly viable alternative were to appear, especially one that saved consumers a metric shit-ton of $$$, perhaps it would be adopted after all.

As for Tony Seba’s credibility…

Futurists make predictions. That’s what they do. Sometimes they are right; sometimes they are wrong. As futurists go, Stanford economist and RetinkX founder Tony Seba has a pretty good track record. He predicted the solar energy boom at a time when prices for solar power were 10 times what they are today.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:03:16am

re: #559 Jay C

Not to also mention:

1. perfecting “self-driving” auto technology
2. overcoming public fears wrt above
3. constructing/refurbishing an infrastructure for widespread s-ds
4. Making sure said infrastructure is available in low-density areas (paging Anymouse!)

A LOT longer than 13 years…..

#2 is the really difficult one, because the objections come from irrational meat-bags who overestimate their own driving skills.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:03:18am

re: #561 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

To me it’s just a steel box that gets me to work, but I used to ride motorcycles, so cars, especially cars as practical as my Prius, inspire no emotions at all.

Still, you go and come as you please. Turn left or right as you please

565
Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 10:03:49am

re: #539 Teukka

Under influence of what? Alcohol? Drugs? Fox News?

Which reminds me that Fox News has a satellite radio simulcast for some stupid reason or another.

566
Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 10:04:53am

re: #565 Myron Falwell

Which reminds me that Fox News has a satellite radio simulcast for some stupid reason or another.

Looks like C2H5OH. 26yr old man in custody in the NYC times square accident with a history of DWIs and he did this thing today on a suspended license.

567
FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 10:04:59am

A reminder, President’s “off the record” lunch with news anchors is today. people have been walking in for the last 30 minutes or so. @kristina_wong has been tracking the attendees.

568
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:05:00am

re: #564 Birth Control Works

Still, you go and come as you please. Turn left or right as you please

Nope. Idiots get in my way all the time.

569
Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 10:05:16am

re: #562 Interesting Times

solar energy boom

Speaking of which, is the EPA development of the Solar Scorcher going good?
/Fallout 2 gag

570
dangerman  May 18, 2017 • 10:05:40am

re: #563 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

#2 is the really difficult one, because the objections come from irrational meat-bags who overestimate their own driving skills.

“90% of people surveyed think that they are an above average driver”

571
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:05:49am
A Pennsylvania man locked his 22-month-old son in a makeshift wooden cage and left the boy home alone with his two younger siblings, including a sister born hours earlier, police said Thursday.

Troopers acting on a tip arrived Wednesday afternoon at the North Manheim Township home, knocked on the door and, when no one answered, forced their way in. Just inside the front door they found a 1-year-old boy in a playpen, a newborn girl in a baby seat and the toddler inside a cage made of plywood and wooden lattice, locked from the outside.

newborn in a car safety seat alone in the house for over 40 minutes.

We are doomed as a species.

572
sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 10:06:23am

re: #553 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not by 2030, they won’t. People who think cars are going away probably thought we’d all be on Segways by now. Futurists are mostly just science-fiction writers.

Where’s my damn jetpack!?!

573
lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 10:07:23am

re: #571 Birth Control Works

Florida man tries to kiss rattlesnake. Results are predictable.

574
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:07:58am

re: #572 sagehen

Where’s my damn jetpack!?!

martinjetpack.com

575
Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 10:08:39am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

[Embedded content]

Scared of a cable car POTUS.

576
makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 10:09:22am

This is one of the most beautiful performances of Chris Cornell’s career, with the LA band Eleven.

It’s doubly sad to hear today, considering that Eleven’s Natasha Schneider is also gone. Two other-worldly voices, now silent.

Chris Cornell - Ave Maria (featuring Eleven)

577
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:09:39am

New Baylor Lawsuit Alleges Rape Video, Dog Fighting

A federal lawsuit against Baylor University alleges members of the football team “recorded gang rapes and staged dogfights in a program that fostered sexual violence.”

It’s as if Whackos think Trump’s election is a license to break laws they think are to pussified.

Assholes now have a license to be assholes.

578
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:10:14am

re: #572 sagehen

Where’s my damn jetpack!?!

I want my Star Trek Phaser set to stun for civilian use.

579
sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 10:10:47am

re: #578 Birth Control Works

I want my Star Trek Phaser set to stun for civilian use.

I want my Stargate so I can emigrate.

580
Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 10:11:20am

re: #557 Birth Control Works

New Hampshire Lawmaker Behind ‘RedPill’ Reddit Forum Quits, Citing Safety Fears

The dude’s a punk. From what I can tell, he wasn’t even showing up most of the time to the statehouse in Concord.

I’m a relative newcomer, but I quickly picked up on a local perception that an influx of “liberal Massholes” has changed the state. Over time I’ve learned that the real Trump-supporting GOP core here are more likely to be hardcore conservatives from Mass. who came to southern New Hampshire for somewhat cheaper homes (still astronomically high by my standards) and lack of income and sales taxes. The old-school Republicans, though some could still be pretty nasty, from what I understand (for example, the publisher of the Manchester Union-Leader), but were really more like the Romneys in most cases. Anyway, of local politics is R; our national politics is D. For now.

581
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 10:11:40am

re: #571 Birth Control Works

newborn in a car safety seat alone in the house for over 40 minutes.

We are doomed as a species.

This is not the first time in history something like this has been done, believe me. Which actress tied her kids to the bed?

And if we’re doomed as a species, what about those that eat their young or the shark whose first child born eats all of its siblings eggs?

582
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:11:49am

re: #577 Birth Control Works

New Baylor Lawsuit Alleges Rape Video, Dog Fighting

It’s as if Whackos think Trump’s election is a license to break laws they think are to pussified.

Assholes now have a license to be assholes.

And keep finding that’s it’s still not OK in America despite a mad, failing, President.

583
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:11:49am

I have a clean driving record; therefore, I am an excellent driver.

More likely, I am a suburban white woman driving a mom van with a local license plate. Cops see me as someone who can hire a good lawyer.

584
Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 10:11:55am

re: #578 Birth Control Works

I want my Star Trek Phaser set to stun for civilian use.

I’d like to learn how to do the Vulcan death grip.

585
Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 10:12:23am

re: #577 Birth Control Works

New Baylor Lawsuit Alleges Rape Video, Dog Fighting

It’s as if Whackos think Trump’s election is a license to break laws they think are to pussified.

Assholes now have a license to be assholes.

You don’t know the half of it. :(

586
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:13:00am

re: #580 Barefoot Grin

The dude’s a punk. From what I can tell, he wasn’t even showing up most of the time to the statehouse in Concord.

I’m a relative newcomer, but I quickly picked up on a local perception that an influx of “liberal Massholes” has changed the state. Over time I’ve learned that the real Trump-supporting GOP core here are more likely to be hardcore conservatives from Mass. who came to southern New Hampshire for somewhat cheaper homes (still astronomically high by my standards) and lack of income and sales taxes. The old-school Republicans, though some could still be pretty nasty, from what I understand (for example, the publisher of the Manchester Union-Leader), but were really more like the Romneys in most cases. Anyway, of local politics is R; our national politics is D. For now.

The put their dogs on top of their cars for long road trips?

587
Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 10:13:19am

re: #577 Birth Control Works

New Baylor Lawsuit Alleges Rape Video, Dog Fighting

It’s as if Whackos think Trump’s election is a license to break laws they think are to pussified.

Assholes now have a license to be assholes.

And you know who let all that sordid behavior at Baylor slide? Ken Starr. Figures.

588
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:13:24am

re: #579 sagehen

I want my Stargate so I can emigrate.

A Stargate comes with a lot of downsides, mostly Goa’uld related.

589
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:13:50am

re: #585 Teukka

You don’t know the half of it. :(

As Illinois still has not release funds to women’s shelters and our local one has had to let go of staff and turn away women seeking shelter … .

590
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:14:19am

re: #584 Myron Falwell

I’d like to learn how to do the Vulcan death grip.

There is no Vulcan death grip.

591
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:15:01am

Russia Experts Raise Concerns Over President Trump’s Treatment of U.S. Press

The president raised eyebrows by letting a photographer from a Russian state agency take pictures in the Oval Office — while barring American reporters.

592
Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 10:16:30am

re: #563 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

#2 is the really difficult one, because the objections come from irrational meat-bags who overestimate their own driving skills.

That may be, but I don’t trust the safety-factor or self-driving cars for purely technical reason: it IS “technology”, and thus prone to breakdowns, glitches, errors, hacks: it’s bad enough when sh*t happens to your laptop or cellphone: I’d rather it not happen to a metal box I’m riding around in at high speed.

Also: I will confess that my ideas about self-driving cars were reinforced by the scene in the last episode of Season 1 of Extant: where Goran Visnijc’s character is murdered by The Sinister Conspiracy who hack the controls of his self-driving taxi, and then stall it on a train track with the doors locked….

593
Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 10:16:59am

re: #590 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There is no Vulcan death grip.

That was the joke. ;)

594
Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 10:18:03am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

[Embedded content]

He’s afraid of heights. He’d completely loose control riding in a cable car. Probably pee all over himself.

595
freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 10:18:10am

re: #546 Skip Intro

Net neutrality goes down in flames as FCC votes to kill Title II rules

Be sure to remember to thank your GOP representative.

arstechnica.com

Comcast at work.

The same corporation that owns NBCU, whose news anchors are meeting “off the record” with Trump today.

596
lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 10:19:00am

re: #588 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If it means I get to meet the Asgardians, I’ll consider it a fair deal. /

597
FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 10:20:35am
598
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 10:20:44am

re: #592 Jay C

That may be, but I don’t trust the safety-factor or self-driving cars for purely technical reason: it IS “technology”, and thus prone to breakdowns, glitches, errors, hacks: it’s bad enough when sh*t happens to your laptop or cellphone: I’d rather it not happen to a metal box I’m riding around in at high speed.

Also: I will confess that my ideas about self-driving cars were reinforced by the scene in the last episode of Season 1 of Extant: where Goran Visnijc’s character is murdered by The Sinister Conspiracy who hack the controls of his self-driving taxi, and then stall it on a train track with the doors locked….

Planes are a far safer way to travel than cars, and, except for two people, it’s all technology. If most people were removed from deciding how to operate cars, they would become significantly safer.

599
Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 10:21:01am

re: #589 Birth Control Works

As Illinois still has not release funds to women’s shelters and our local one has had to let go of staff and turn away women seeking shelter … .

Not only womens shelters. There’s a lot of stuff some do to hide that their policies are not working at all.

600
Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 10:21:18am

Meet Chelsea Manning

Instagram

Okay, so here I am everyone!! 😜
.
.
#HelloWorld

601
Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 10:21:32am

re: #595 freetoken

Comcast at work.

The same corporation that owns NBCU, whose news anchors are meeting “off the record” with Trump today.

Altji Pai was a Verizon lifer before he joined the FCC.

602
sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 10:23:29am

re: #600 Dr. Matt

Meet Chelsea Manning

[Embedded content]

Cute haircut.

603
Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 10:23:31am

re: #600 Dr. Matt

Not to be unkind to Manning, but that pic reminds me of Marilyn Manson on the cover of Mechanical Animals.

604
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:24:10am

re: #599 Teukka

Not only womens shelters. There’s a lot of stuff some do to hide that their policies are not working at all.

Yeah, my frustration shows no bounds.

605
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:25:21am

re: #592 Jay C

That may be, but I don’t trust the safety-factor or self-driving cars for purely technical reason: it IS “technology”, and thus prone to breakdowns, glitches, errors, hacks: it’s bad enough when sh*t happens to your laptop or cellphone: I’d rather it not happen to a metal box I’m riding around in at high speed.

Also: I will confess that my ideas about self-driving cars were reinforced by the scene in the last episode of Season 1 of Extant: where Goran Visnijc’s character is murdered by The Sinister Conspiracy who hack the controls of his self-driving taxi, and then stall it on a train track with the doors locked….

Those are the emotional objections I was talking about.
Humans are prone to breakdowns, glitches, errors, and they get angry and lose their minds completely at the drop of a hat. People who object to self-driving cars seriously overestimate humans.

606
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:26:48am

re: #585 Teukka

You don’t know the half of it. :(

Post articles you come across.

607
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:29:03am

Pitbulls in Pajamas

Still my favorite happy picture.

608
Timothy Watson  May 18, 2017 • 10:29:49am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

[Embedded content]

DJT: “Sure, the Zealots had it bad, but no one has it as bad as me!”

609
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 10:29:55am

Interesting:

Rosenstein, who is overseeing the Russia investigation because Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions recused himself, did not inform either the White House or Sessions about the decision until after he had signed the order appointing Mueller, according to a Justice Department spokesperson who spoke on condition of anonymity.

About half an hour before the order was made public, a Justice Department official informed White House Counsel Don McGahn. Trump spokesman Sean Spicer abruptly left a scheduled meeting with reporters as White House aides huddled to draft a response.

610
blueraven  May 18, 2017 • 10:29:55am

Fox News reporting US airstrike against Assad forces in Syria.

611
Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 10:30:23am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

Maybe someone should tell Trump that there’s a golf course on top of Masada (maybe they can Photoshop it in): that will assuage his fears…

612
Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 10:30:50am

re: #610 blueraven

Fox News reporting US airstrike against Assad forces in Syria.

Good time for a distraction.

613
Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 10:31:15am

His Kampf

Richard Spencer is a troll and an icon for white supremacists. He was also my high-school classmate.

614
Romantic Heretic  May 18, 2017 • 10:31:45am

re: #544 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Because in many people’s minds cars equals freedom.

And like firearms the death toll of them has to be ignored because otherwise there would be no freedom.

615
Interesting Times  May 18, 2017 • 10:31:57am

re: #610 blueraven

Fox News reporting US airstrike against Assad forces in Syria.

Kabuki approved by the Russians in advance, most likely…

616
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 10:33:37am

re: #614 Romantic Heretic

Because in many people’s minds cars equals freedom.

And like firearms the death toll of them has to be ignored because otherwise there would be no freedom.

That’s by design. The marketing people sold cars as freedom.
Marketing people are the source of a lot of our problems.

617
Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 10:35:14am

re: #586 Birth Control Works

The put their dogs on top of their cars for long road trips?

Ha! In truth, I really don’t know what I meant. I guess I was thinking of traditional “keep my taxes low and I won’t bother you” types.

618
FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 10:35:33am
619
Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 10:35:35am

re: #606 Birth Control Works

Post articles you come across.

That I can’t do because I am a wee bit involved.
However, there is a lot of attempts at brushing problems under the rug by, among other things, denying funds.

620
lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 10:35:48am
622
ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 10:39:44am

I am a car lover, I think many LGF members know that. Please watch it with the generalizations. Like all generalizations details and individuality are left out.

I will never say I am a great driver. But, I’ll stand on my driving record any day. One reason I have done well is because as a car lover, I’ve studied how to drive and how a car reacts to conditions, forces, etc. I am still learning. I sometimes go out for drives just for the love of it.

Too many people don’t learn anything and treat them as just a utility. That can be dangerous to them and to others.

I’ll stop there.

623
CongoJack  May 18, 2017 • 10:40:11am

re: #618 FormerDirtDart

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Luckily where I am in Colorado its only been raining… for the last day.. and now I have a sizeable lake in front of my office window. The weather here has been crazy. Went from Spring to Summer to Winter to Summer to Spring and back to Winter. Yay - all my plants and trees are gonna be pissed (and hopefully not dead).

624
Targetpractice  May 18, 2017 • 10:40:57am

re: #610 blueraven

Fox News reporting US airstrike against Assad forces in Syria.

Can’t wait to see what the flimsy excuse for this will be.

625
FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 10:41:34am

re: #610 blueraven

Fox News reporting US airstrike against Assad forces in Syria.

re: #615 Interesting Times

Kabuki approved by the Russians in advance, most likely…

626
Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 10:42:33am

Times Square incident: The perp is US citizen, USN vet, has a criminal past. No indication it was an act of terrorism.

627
Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 10:42:39am

re: #624 Targetpractice

Can’t wait to see what the flimsy excuse for this will be.

My guess; Trump saw “Wag the Dog” on cable last night.

628
Targetpractice  May 18, 2017 • 10:43:55am

re: #625 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

A pro-Assad militia, not Assad forces. A distinction without a difference.

629
The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 10:46:13am

re: #626 Dr. Matt

Times Square incident: The perp is US citizen, USN vet, has a criminal past. No indication it was an act of terrorism.

Did they use a color chart?

630
b.d.  May 18, 2017 • 10:46:45am

re: #610 blueraven

Fox News reporting US airstrike against Assad forces in Syria.

Sir, we had Ailes killed but the headlines are still about us.

Better drop some bombs in Syria, media can’t resist that s*it.”

//

631
Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 10:47:16am
632
Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 10:49:33am

re: #543 Interesting Times

I’ve talked to @tonyseba about @santamonicacity. Predicts 100% #renewableenergy + 100% #EV by 2030. It’s happening. theamericanenergynews.com

— Joel (@RealJoelCesare) May 9, 2017

Still waiting on our flying cars nearly eighty years after we were told we would get them. /s

I’m guessing no, and not because of “emotional attachment to personal cars.”

Economics. No company is going to invest in the vast scale of solar electric charging stations required in the vast rural areas of the world (where you still need people to live to do things like grow food and the businesses that support that). Without using solar, you’re stuck using the electric grid (then you have to use coal, nuclear, natural gas, &c)

No business is going to invest in rural public transportation infrastructure like busses, trains, taxis, &c.

Unless there is a massive improvement in EV battery technology, I could not get to Scottsbluff and back (a town of 14,000 people).

633
MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 10:49:50am

re: #573 lawhawk

Florida man tries to kiss rattlesnake. Results are predictable.

Bit his tongue. Just what kind of kissing was he attempting? ;-)

634
Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 10:50:43am

re: #547 FormerDirtDart

It’s an UNESCO World Heritage site. So, they have restriction for preservation reasons.
Both 42 & 43 visited, they took the cable car

[Embedded content]

I believe that Trump is too scared of heights to ride a cable car.

635
Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 10:51:21am

If you read one thing about Ailes - read this

636
Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 10:51:50am
637
The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 10:51:59am

re: #634 Big Beautiful Door

I believe that Trump is too scared of heights to ride a cable car.

SAD!

638
Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 10:52:18am

re: #614 Romantic Heretic

Because in many people’s minds cars equals freedom.

And also I don’t feel comfortable bringing home, say an axe or shovel/spade, on the bus.

639
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 10:52:49am

re: #622 ObserverArt

Too many people don’t learn anything and treat them as just a utility. That can be dangerous to them and to others.

This value is easily > 80%, and probably > 90%, of the population.

I hate driving, and if my car didn’t have cruise control, I’d hate it even more and would be a dangerous driver. I am one of those who would love to have my driving automated.

640
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 10:53:06am

I remember my first trip to Mount St. Helens. Only trip so far, really, but I want to get back.

It was foggy as we were driving in - low clouds, mist, threatening to rain. You could see the trees blown over, but even when we got to the Johnston Ridge Observatory, the volcano itself wasn’t visible.

I’m spoilering this next part because if you haven’t been, it can be a nice surprise and I don’t want to ruin it.

So we went in to watch the video presentation about the volcano and the history and whatnot and at the end, the screen is pulled up and the curtains open and I got my first glimpse of the volcano crystal clear because the clouds had cleared during the video. It was amazing and beautiful and awe-inspiring, and completely unexpected because I hadn’t realized there were windows there.

Then we went and walked around on some of the short trails there and it started to sleet on us. In June. And we ate our picnic lunch in the car as it combination sleeted and rained. I have such fond memories of that trip. :)

641
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 10:53:44am

re: #632 Anymouse

Still waiting on our flying cars nearly eighty years after we were told we would get them. /s

I’m guessing no, and not because of “emotional attachment to personal cars.”

Economics. No company is going to invest in the vast scale of solar electric charging stations required in the vast rural areas of the world (where you still need people to live to do things like grow food and the businesses that support that). Without using solar, you’re stuck using the electric grid (then you have to use coal, nuclear, natural gas, &c)

No business is going to invest in rural public transportation infrastructure like busses, trains, taxis, &c.

Unless there is a massive improvement in EV battery technology, I could not get to Scottsbluff and back (a town of 14,000 people).

How far is that?

642
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 10:54:47am

Just a reminder that solar power can be connected into the electric grid too.

643
Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 10:55:19am

re: #638 Apocalypse

And also I don’t feel comfortable bringing home, say an axe or shovel/spade, on the bus.

I can imagine how my scythe would work out… . It would be like the reapers on “Dead Like Me” on the subway. /s

644
Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 10:56:06am

re: #641 Belafon

How far is that?

Sixty miles one way, part of it over dirt roads that don’t even show up in Mapquest or Google.

645
FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 10:56:17am
646
HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 10:57:07am

re: #645 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Damn it Chris.

647
Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 10:57:11am

Fucking fuck fuck. WHY?!!?! Uuuuuuuuugh.

648
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:11am

re: #647 Dr. Matt

Chris has had a lot of demons. One of them won.

649
Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:30am

I wonder if Cornell was messing around with erotic asphyxiation?

650
Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:35am
651
MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:41am

re: #622 ObserverArt

I am a car lover, I think many LGF members know that. Please watch it with the generalizations. Like all generalizations details and individuality are left out.

I will never say I am a great driver. But, I’ll stand on my driving record any day. One reason I have done well is because as a car lover, I’ve studied how to drive and how a car reacts to conditions, forces, etc. I am still learning. I sometimes go out for drives just for the love of it.

Too many people don’t learn anything and treat them as just a utility. That can be dangerous to them and to others.

I’ll stop there.

Like you, I am a car freak. Always have been since I was a kid.

Now, I am looking to get a recumbent bike. We have a two-wheel bike and I am looking at getting a trike. The linked article cracked me up as I was trying to discern the two types (two wheels front or two wheels back).

I love me some engineers.

quora.com

652
Skandal  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:52am
653
FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 11:01:04am

re: #642 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just a reminder that solar power can be connected into the electric grid too.

Of all people, Chuck Grassley has problems with Rick Perry’s DoE

654
IngisKahn  May 18, 2017 • 11:02:18am

re: #644 Anymouse

Sixty miles one way, part of it over dirt roads that don’t even show up in Mapquest or Google.

Good EV range nowadays is around 300 miles. And just because a car is self-driving doesn’t mean you can’t drive it when you need/want to.

655
Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 11:03:56am

re: #654 IngisKahn

Good EV range nowadays is around 300 miles. And just because a car is self-driving doesn’t mean you can’t drive it when you need/want to.

Especially when the robots attack.

(I enjoyed I, Robot.)

656
Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:05:18am

re: #639 Belafon

This value is easily > 80%, and probably > 90%, of the population.

I hate driving, and if my car didn’t have cruise control, I’d hate it even more and would be a dangerous driver. I am one of those who would love to have my driving automated.

I might go for an automated car if one were available. Too bad GPS maps don’t show the roads around here.

Even the vaunted Google StreetView doesn’t show my town (except US-26 going through it).

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The Vicious Babushka  May 18, 2017 • 11:05:49am
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:09:14am

re: #654 IngisKahn

Good EV range nowadays is around 300 miles. And just because a car is self-driving doesn’t mean you can’t drive it when you need/want to.

Still left with the economics of building all those charging stations.

Railroads were only pushed into the west because of vast government land giveaways to railroad companies that then sold the land.

Ain’t no way our government would fund all those solar charging stations, they won’t even fund Amtrak properly.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 11:10:07am

re: #658 Anymouse

Still left with the economics of building all those charging stations.

Railroads were only pushed into the west because of vast government land giveaways to railroad companies that then sold the land.

Ain’t no way our government would fund all those solar charging stations, they won’t even fund Amtrak properly.

They will charge at your house.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 11:10:43am
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:10:50am
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:12:35am

re: #659 Belafon

They will charge at your house.

There is that, so I would be limited in how far I could go by the ability of the batteries, unless someone funds all those charging stations.

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CleverToad  May 18, 2017 • 11:12:42am

re: #618 FormerDirtDart

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Yep, looks like my deck. Teleskiguy, I am very very happy that you are getting lots of lovely snow up there in the mountains. I am not nearly as jazzed about the white stuff that’s threatening still more branches on the fully-leafed out maple tree in my back yard.

I wish they’d picked up on the phrase ‘global weirding’ back in the 70’s…

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 11:13:17am

re: #588 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A Stargate comes with a lot of downsides, mostly Goa’uld related.

But they are all dead now.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:13:29am
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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 11:14:15am

re: #616 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s by design. The marketing people sold cars as freedom.
Marketing people are the source of a lot of our problems.

Sigmond Freud’s nephew …

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:15:38am

Snow starting to push into NW Nebraska … weather report currently has us at 100% chance of rain and 40 degrees for the next two days. Lovely.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 18, 2017 • 11:15:41am

On the passing of Roger Ailes: A good friend of mine worked at Fox News in the mid-90s to mid-2000s. It was a cush gig, but he felt the erosion of his soul on a daily basis, and his tales of what went on there made me ill.

Thus, I reacted poorly upon the initial news of Ailes’ passing, with an ill-considered comment. I have since put it behind the Private tag.

Here’s a more well-reasoned reaction that I also cross-posted to the page:

I do blame Ailes and the toxic ideology he inherited from working in the Nixon White House, and the loose oversight he was given by Murdoch, for shitting all over the way Americans talk to, with, and about each other.

He empowered the very worst impulses in American society. He took Nixon’s paranoia, hate and ugliness and, with surgical precision, injected it into the heart of gullible, low-education “silent majority” Americans.

I do not wish for anyone’s death. I do wish for them to bear the consequences of their actions. Ailes was malignant as a wasp, and he more than anything else, made it possible for our country to reach its current sad state.

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Birth Control Works  May 18, 2017 • 11:16:18am

bbl

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IngisKahn  May 18, 2017 • 11:18:21am

re: #662 Anymouse

There is that, so I would be limited in how far I could go by the ability of the batteries, unless someone funds all those charging stations.

Tesla’s been doing alright funding themselves.

Tesla Charging Stations

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:20:46am
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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 11:23:38am
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 18, 2017 • 11:23:56am

re: #665 Kragar

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Goddammit. I saw them in Seattle in 1990. I saw them at Lollapalooza in ‘96. And a couple of times in between. Cornell was a wry, smart poet, that was every smart grunge chick’s crush back in the 90s.

It is no accident that the hot boyfriend on “Daria” was a dead ringer for Cornell.

Yeah, that’s pretty much Chris.
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Decatur Deb  May 18, 2017 • 11:24:28am

re: #658 Anymouse

Still left with the economics of building all those charging stations.

Railroads were only pushed into the west because of vast government land giveaways to railroad companies that then sold the land.

Ain’t no way our government would fund all those solar charging stations, they won’t even fund Amtrak properly.

Our Baja Alabama town of 60,000 is getting a Tesla charging station. Seems to be driven by our distance from traffic-target cities. (We also have a nearby nuke.)

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:24:32am
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Franklin  May 18, 2017 • 11:24:53am

re: #642 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just a reminder that solar power can be connected into the electric grid too.

Yep. Our office had a nice solar panel array on the roof. Whatever we didn’t use during the day (but especially weekends) was sold back to our provider.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:25:27am

re: #670 IngisKahn

Tesla’s been doing alright funding themselves.

Tesla Charging Stations

Right along I-80 in Nebraska. Ignoring the vast portion of the state where most of the people live.

As I said, no corporation is going to fund rural areas. Either the government does it, or no one does. And there are lots of Teslas in rural Nebraska or Wyoming.

As a matter of fact, all the Tesla stations in the Plains are along Interstates, not where the people live.

“Hey Bill, I need to drive my Tesla tractor sixty miles south today so I can charge it before I can plough my fields.”

Tesla isn’t putting bus, train, or taxi services into rural areas either. No one is.

Last paragraph of that economist’s article:

The reason? Seba has sussed out the single most important driver of rapid technical change: an exponential increase in value. People will pay more if the value they receive is significantly greater than the value created by the old technology, a lesson too often ignored by the boosters and hype cyclers of clean energy technologies.

That also assumes they have the money to pay for that technology. The reason Wal*Mart has done so well is not because they sell high quality technology and goods; it’s because they sell cheap goods.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 11:26:34am

re: #672 Dr. Matt

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And they say Jared is the “moderating influence.” No he’s a yes man.

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jimmyvluv4u  May 18, 2017 • 11:26:59am

re: #675 Kragar

Sigh…. I listened to Euphoria Morning this morning, which is a super, super great album. It was a bit of a more of a depressing trip than normal today, though.

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IngisKahn  May 18, 2017 • 11:27:07am

The charging stations are for people traveling hundreds of miles, anything less and you don’t need them.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 11:27:38am

re: #675 Kragar

Chris Cornell - “Nothing Compares 2 U” Prince Cover

I saw him do that live last year during his solo tour. It was truly amazing.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 11:28:08am

re: #639 Belafon

This value is easily > 80%, and probably > 90%, of the population.

I hate driving, and if my car didn’t have cruise control, I’d hate it even more and would be a dangerous driver. I am one of those who would love to have my driving automated.

I don’t have any problem with automated cars either…just don’t take cars away from those that love them. I wish this country had trains, subways, small commuter lines like the old street cars, etc. that were in almost all major cities 100,000 population up and lines that connected all those cities. Then you could have automated cars to get to those cities. Tie it all together.

Chances are that isn’t going to happen. Sadly.

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b_sharp  May 18, 2017 • 11:28:15am

re: #656 Anymouse

I might go for an automated car if one were available. Too bad GPS maps don’t show the roads around here.

Even the vaunted Google StreetView doesn’t show my town (except US-26 going through it).

Well, it is populated by mice. And not just specific mice, but any mice.

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 11:28:32am

re: #672 Dr. Matt

Imagine that - Ivanka marrying someone like her father…

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Decatur Deb  May 18, 2017 • 11:28:51am

re: #680 IngisKahn

The charging stations are for people traveling hundreds of miles, anything less and you don’t need them.

Yup, and we’re about a hundred miles from anywhere.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:29:11am

re: #680 IngisKahn

The charging stations are for people traveling hundreds of miles, anything less and you don’t need them.

So, getting to an Interstate then.

Lots of futurists have predicted lots of things. I’ll wait and see what comes along, not what they predict. I still want my flying car.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:30:05am

re: #683 b_sharp

Well, it is populated by mice. And not just specific mice, but any mice.

LOL. Now that Felix Randomkitty is gone, I dread the upcoming mouse season here… .

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:32:00am
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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 11:32:32am

re: #672 Dr. Matt

Kushner urged Trump to attack after special prosecutor announcement: report thehill.com pic.twitter.com

— The Hill

Does Kushner know anything about anything at all?

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 11:33:05am

re: #676 Franklin

Yep. Our office had a nice solar panel array on the roof. Whatever we didn’t use during the day (but especially weekends) was sold back to our provider.

And if ALEC has their way, your company will eventually be heavily charged for the privilege of sell excess power to your provider

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:33:41am

re: #690 FormerDirtDart

And if ALEC has their way, your company will eventually be heavily charged for the privilege of sell excess power to your provider

And special taxes on solar panels period.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:33:48am
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jimmyvluv4u  May 18, 2017 • 11:33:53am

re: #679 jimmyvluv4u

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:34:26am

re: #689 Sir John Barron

Does Kushner know anything about anything at all?

No.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 11:35:00am

re: #689 Sir John Barron

Does Kushner know anything about anything at all?

I think he has the total asshole part down pretty good.

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IngisKahn  May 18, 2017 • 11:36:33am

I mean if you need to travel more than 300 miles in one day then maybe EV isn’t for you yet. That’s fine. Plus they are still pretty expensive. I’d still want to have a gas guzzler if I know I need to travel somewhere far off the grid.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 11:36:43am

So transparent those trumpys are

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b_sharp  May 18, 2017 • 11:36:45am

Except for the first 7 days, I officially hate 2017. It’s worse than last year so far.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 11:37:08am

I have no idea what DHS Pup Patrols are, but I am inclined to heavily support them…

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jimmyvluv4u  May 18, 2017 • 11:37:14am

re: #679 jimmyvluv4u

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 11:37:25am

re: #689 Sir John Barron

Does Kushner know anything about anything at all?

Dad-in-law’s moods.

Otherwise, probably bupkis

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 11:38:00am

re: #699 FormerDirtDart

I don’t know, but the doggos doing the bomb sniffing in the TSA lines are pretty nice.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 11:38:11am

re: #689 Sir John Barron

Does Kushner know anything about anything at all?

No. Next?

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 11:38:12am

re: #698 b_sharp

How is V doing?

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 11:38:55am

re: #697 Stanley Sea

So transparent those trumpys are

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Holy Joe had no problem with the loyalty oath, then.

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b_sharp  May 18, 2017 • 11:39:00am

re: #694 Anymouse

No.

Well he does know how to twiddle iVanka’s fancy, something her dad wishes he could do.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 11:39:04am

re: #697 Stanley Sea

So transparent those trumpys are

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I ahd seriously forgotten about him after the way he fucked Obama over even though Obama had been one of the few Dems to support him after he lost his primary. to Ned Lamont.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:40:15am

Joe Leibermann would be an idiot to sign up on the Trump Train now. I’m guessing more kayfabe from the Trump administration.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 11:40:22am

re: #702 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know, but the doggos doing the bomb sniffing in the TSA lines are pretty nice.

I’ve been a big fan of the USDA’s ‘Beagle Brigade’ for some time

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 11:41:25am

re: #703 lawhawk

No. Next?

Obviously since they always seem to do the absolute worst thing possible to exacerbate whatever the given situation is. They don’t understand government or requirements or secrecy or anything. You can’t bully your way through government (without at least knowing how government functions to know whom to bully, when and how that isn’t going to get you into deep doo doo, which is all Trump and his spawn ever do).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 11:41:54am

re: #709 FormerDirtDart

I’ve been a big fan of the USDA’s ‘Beagle Brigade’ for some time

We’re flying this weekend (wedding in DC area) and the two things I am probably looking forward to the most about the plane trip is a) the doggos and b) time to sit and cross stitch.

Maybe c) a drink.

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Apocalypse  May 18, 2017 • 11:43:25am

re: #699 FormerDirtDart

That cold sweat inducing situation: Beagle or Yellow Labrador.

Beagle apparently.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 11:44:19am

I forgot DAG Rosenstein was briefing the Senate today

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 11:44:49am

re: #708 Anymouse

Joe Leibermann would be an idiot to sign up on the Trump Train now. I’m guessing more kayfabe from the Trump administration.

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Joe Lieberman often times is an idiot.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:44:51am
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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 11:45:42am

re: #697 Stanley Sea

So transparent those trumpys are

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SRSLY? WTF?
Holy Joe (“I never met a member of my own Party I wouldn’t shaft”) Lieberman for FBI? Aside from the usual reasons, it doesn’t look like Lieberman has much in the way of law-enforcement experience (aside from six years as CT’s AG in the 80’s).
Or again, is his signature on the personal loyalty-oath and NDA the main qualification?

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b_sharp  May 18, 2017 • 11:46:16am

re: #704 Stanley Sea

How is V doing?

Just got back from the hospital. She’s feeling good and wants to come home but they aren’t letting her go until tomorrow. Yesterday they found she has an infection and her blood sugar count finally went down to normal after they started treating it. It’s still unknown whether she had a TIA (mini stroke) that caused her blood sugar to hit >33 mmol/L or that high blood sugar caused stroke like symptoms. Problem is her BP was 171/71 right after she got to the hospital so the stroke is still in play as a possibility. They’re treating both.

We’re confused to say the least.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:46:49am

Gaa… .

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 11:48:02am

re: #718 Anymouse

Gaa… .

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These people don’t pay attention to reality. Really running out of patience with them. They just protect their wishes on to Trump.

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 11:48:14am

re: #718 Anymouse

Gaa… .

Typical of some state party’s Democrats in the legislative body to take credit for passing a bill in their legislative body to do something rather than thanking DT who did nothing.
/

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 11:48:27am

His entire thought process boils down to, “what does my wife’s dad want to hear?”

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 11:50:38am

Priorities….

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 11:51:08am

re: #714 ObserverArt

Joe Lieberman often times is an idiot.

I think his famewhore side might win out any other side he might (maybe) possess.

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 11:51:08am

re: #708 Anymouse

Joe Leibermann would be an idiot to sign up on the Trump Train now. I’m guessing more kayfabe from the Trump administration.

No, Lieberman is exactly that fucking idiotic.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 11:51:16am

re: #722 lawhawk

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Priorities….

Pathetic.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 11:52:11am

re: #719 HappyWarrior

These people don’t pay attention to reality. Really running out of patience with them. They just protect their wishes on to Trump.

Anyone doing an issues-based analysis of Trump voters is making a category error.

Trump supporters support Trump because he tells them the lies they want to hear and he validates their deliberate stupidity and malignant resentments.

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Bubblehead II  May 18, 2017 • 11:52:23am
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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 11:52:25am

re: #718 Anymouse

Gaa… .

Oh, in that case, the increase sucks, very socialism.

/

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 11:53:41am

re: #725 HappyWarrior

And 100% predictable. They still think that their road to salvation is trying to throw chaff in the air, claim Clinton deserves further investigation, and that there’s something even remotely close to what Trump has.

It’s trying to equivocate between Trump’s seditious/criminal acts, and Clinton who did none of that.

But GOP knows their supporters and the media will cover both, and likely give more coverage to Clinton being investigated for bullshit than Trump for giving state secrets to the Russians.

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TedStriker  May 18, 2017 • 11:54:10am

re: #722 lawhawk

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Priorities….

Of course they are…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 11:54:24am

OT: After Wonkette wrote an article about Penzey’s spices, my wife made a massive order from them. (She’d never heard of them before.)

They sent along a bunch of gifts with the order, including a seasoning neither she nor I had heard of before: sate seasoning.

On their Website, they only had one recipe using that; she E-mailed Penzey’s asking if they had more.

They sent her a whole slew of other recipes they don’t have on their site.

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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 11:54:59am

re: #718 Anymouse

After awhile we must conclude that it really doesn’t matter what his supporters believe if their beliefs don’t coincide with reality. Sticking your head in the sand and muttering “I don’t see anything” is not a feasible way to go through life.

The bottom line is that Trump is going to be heavily and thoroughly investigated and there is a strong likelihood that he and his cohorts may be forced out of office.

Trump supporters can continue to live in lala land. That’s their choice.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 11:55:05am

Great, Trump appointing a like-minded unprincipled and unqualified hack as the FBI director is just what what the doctor ordered…

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 11:56:21am

re: #729 lawhawk

And 100% predictable. They still think that their road to salvation is trying to throw chaff in the air, claim Clinton deserves further investigation, and that there’s something even remotely close to what Trump has.

It’s trying to equivocate between Trump’s seditious/criminal acts, and Clinton who did none of that.

But GOP knows their supporters and the media will cover both, and likely give more coverage to Clinton being investigated for bullshit than Trump for giving state secrets to the Russians.

As Driftglass likes to say of media both-siderists (paraphrased from memory): In the face of overwhelming Republican lying, corruption and treachery, we’re going to have to both-sides the shit out of this.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 11:56:34am

Do we really want a FBI Director who will be 85 when his rtenture ends? Lieberman is Ian improvement over someone like Rudy or Christie but really, this is the best he can find?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 11:57:02am

re: #732 Patricia Kayden

After awhile we must conclude that it really doesn’t matter what his supporters believe if their beliefs don’t coincide with reality. Sticking your head in the sand and muttering “I don’t see anything” is not a feasible way to go through life.

The bottom line is that Trump is going to be heavily and thoroughly investigated and there is a strong likelihood that he and his cohorts may be forced out of office.

Trump supporters can continue to live in lala land. That’s their choice.

It’s almost like the problem with people who are really pro-Trump (and I would argue pro-Republican as well) isn’t the lack of any other news sources but instead a willful decision to wallow in ignorance because RAH RAH GO TEAM.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 11:58:38am

re: #736 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s almost like the problem with people who are really pro-Trump (and I would argue pro-Republican as well) isn’t the lack of any other news sources but instead a willful decision to wallow in ignorance because RAH RAH GO TEAM.

Hmm reminds me of someone I used to know.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 11:59:14am

re: #736 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s almost like the problem with people who are really pro-Trump (and I would argue pro-Republican as well) isn’t the lack of any other news sources but instead a willful decision to wallow in ignorance because RAH RAH GO TEAM.

That’s why I like to say it’s a category error to talk to Trumpists (or nearly all Republicans) about issues. Hating the ‘other’ really is what it’s all about for the great majority of GOP voters.

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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 12:00:12pm

re: #657 The Vicious Babushka

Devos has been vindicated! /s

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Bubblehead II  May 18, 2017 • 12:00:13pm

re: #733 Nyet

Great, Trump appointing a like-minded unprincipled and unqualified hack as the FBI director is just what what the doctor ordered…

He will have to face confirmation hearings and his ties to the law firm representing Ivanka and Manafort will most likely be scrutinized very closely at least by the D’s on the committee.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 12:01:46pm

re: #737 HappyWarrior

Hmm reminds me of someone I used to know.

I have to confess to a certain morbid curiosity as to how DF would have spun Trump’s boo-boo that likely compromised an Israeli intelligence asset.

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 12:01:50pm

re: #736 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The perfection of epistemic bubbles.

There is no contradicting information that is allowed in.

It was clear to anyone who looked into Trump that he was a bigoted con-man. Yet the Trumpers love him. What does that say about them?

At least on my Facebook timeline, there were, and are, a few Republican-leaning and/or religious people who were/are appalled at Trump. I strike this up as these people still caring about life or people or something.

But the Trumpers? They are so lost in their bubble that they are impervious to outsiders trying to convince them.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:01:51pm

Very close to freezing the next couple nights … flowerbed and garden might not take that well.

My elm tree is leafing out now as well. If it were to snow that would be bad.

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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 12:03:38pm

re: #718 Anymouse

Gaa… .

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When I read this, I had two thought come into my head:

1. This guy they interviewed must truly be a moron: he gets a raise in his (minimum) wage, (probably as of 1/1 or 2/1) and his first thought is to credit Trump??

2. I see a failure by the NY Dem Party here: surprising, because this is Politics 101, fundamental Tammany Hall stuff: when you do any sort of favor for the voters, make damn friggin’ sure they know exactly WHO did them the favor.

Then again, point 2 might get lost on morons…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:03:44pm

Time for a pit bull washing guinea pigs:

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 12:03:49pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 18, 2017 • 12:03:52pm

re: #742 freetoken

But the Trumpers? They are so lost in their bubble that they are impervious to outsiders trying to convince them.

It’s like a political version of Peoples Temple.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 12:05:33pm

re: #741 EPR-radar

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 12:06:35pm

Stock market rebounding nicely today. With new and continuing unemployment claims dropping to incredibly low levels the economy is humming along despite the dysfunction in the White House.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 12:07:51pm

Has there ever been a thread get to 800 posts? Looking like this one will.

Charles, you out there? Just checking to see if you are okay and all.

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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 12:08:01pm

re: #749 Big Beautiful Door

Stock market rebounding nicely today. With new and continuing unemployment claims dropping to incredibly low levels the economy is humming along despite the dysfunction in the White House.

Thanks Obama!!

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 12:08:51pm

re: #750 ObserverArt

Has there ever been a thread get to 800 posts? Looking like this one will.

Charles, you out there? Just checking to see if you are okay and all.

Oh, hatchling. We’ve done 5,000.

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 12:09:39pm

Oh man. Dude just can’t be reasoned with.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:09:52pm

re: #750 ObserverArt

Has there ever been a thread get to 800 posts? Looking like this one will.

Charles, you out there? Just checking to see if you are okay and all.

There was the thread when Mr. Johnson said he wasn’t going over the cliff with conservatives, and a thread I saw about creationism here once I was directed to.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:11:27pm

re: #752 wrenchwench

Oh, hatchling. We’ve done 5,000.

If ObserverArt is a hatchling, does that make me an LGF egg?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 18, 2017 • 12:11:57pm

re: #744 Jay C

When I read this, I had two thought come into my head:

1. This guy they interviewed must truly be a moron: he gets a raise in his (minimum) wage, (probably as of 1/1 or 2/1) and his first thought is to credit Trump??

2. I see a failure by the NY Dem Party here: surprising, because this is Politics 101, fundamental Tammany Hall stuff: when you do any sort of favor for the voters, make damn friggin’ sure they know exactly WHO did them the favor.

Then again, point 2 might get lost on morons…

Given that these people listen only to Fox and similar minded organizations, how are they supposed to learn the truth?

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 12:11:58pm

re: #752 wrenchwench

Oh, hatchling. We’ve done 5,000.

That was probably before image hosting and twitter embedding though. Also before so many people started browsing on lower physical memory devices like smart phones and tablets.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 12:12:36pm

re: #755 Anymouse

If ObserverArt is a hatchling, does that make me an LGF egg?

Get off my lawn.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 12:12:37pm

re: #755 Anymouse

If ObserverArt is a hatchling, does that make me an LGF egg?

Soon as you post a comment, you have hatched.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 12:12:42pm
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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 12:13:30pm

re: #757 goddamnedfrank

That was probably before image hosting and twitter embedding though. Also before so many people started browsing on lower physical memory devices like smart phones and tablets.

Ah, the old days.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 12:13:31pm

re: #753 goddamnedfrank

Oh man. Dude just can’t be reasoned with.

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Trump’s ego is so massive that astronomers should check for signs that its gravity is destabilizing the Milky Way galaxy.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 12:14:14pm

re: #741 EPR-radar

I have to confess to a certain morbid curiosity as to how DF would have spun Trump’s boo-boo that likely compromised an Israeli intelligence asset.

I know, me too.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2017 • 12:15:12pm

My phone data has gone haywire. Is it confirmed that Roger Ailes has died? I could only get this story: washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:15:20pm

re: #758 Kragar

re: #755 Anymouse

So by my sign-in date, I am about to enter my terrible twos here.

You’ve been warned.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 12:15:24pm

re: #755 Anymouse

If ObserverArt is a hatchling, does that make me an LGF egg?

You’re yolking, right?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 12:15:58pm

re: #764 Shiplord Kirel

My phone data has gone haywire. Is it confirmed that Roger Ailes has died? I could only get this story: washingtonpost.com

Yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 12:15:58pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:16:31pm

re: #764 Shiplord Kirel

My phone data has gone haywire. Is it confirmed that Roger Ailes has died? I could only get this story: washingtonpost.com

Yes, it was reported on FOX News Channel.
foxnews.com

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 12:16:37pm

re: #768 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good!

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 12:17:01pm

re: #764 Shiplord Kirel

My phone data has gone haywire. Is it confirmed that Roger Ailes has died? I could only get this story: washingtonpost.com

I heard that at Fox News, all skirts are at half mast. (I pictured a lot of mooning in his general direction).

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 12:17:35pm

re: #764 Shiplord Kirel

My phone data has gone haywire. Is it confirmed that Roger Ailes has died? I could only get this story: washingtonpost.com

He’s dead. One less cancer on the nation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 12:17:42pm
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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 12:19:38pm

re: #771 wrenchwench

I heard that at Fox News, all skirts are at half mast. (I pictured a lot of mooning in his general direction).

Has DT ordered that flags be flown at half-mast in official, government sanctioned mourning?

Half serious. I’m sure his acolytes at Faux and throughout hate radio land would have spewed Exorcist movie-level bile at Obama if he had not done so in response to Ailes passing.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:19:45pm

re: #766 MsJ

You’re yolking, right?

I’m all scrambled with the puns… .

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:20:55pm

re: #774 Sir John Barron

Has DT ordered that flags be flown at half-mast in official, government sanctioned mourning?

Half serious. I’m sure his acolytes at Faux and throughout hate radio land would have spewed Exorcist movie-level bile at Obama if he had not done so in response to Ailes passing.

Not yet, anyway.
whitehouse.gov (White House proclamations page)

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Sir John Barron  May 18, 2017 • 12:21:34pm

re: #776 Anymouse

It wouldn’t surprise me…

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 12:21:43pm

re: #774 Sir John Barron

I found this lovely obituary for Ailes: theconcourse.deadspin.com


The only thing that needs to be written about Roger Ailes for all the rest of eternity is that he was as vile an abomination as has ever slipped from a human orifice, that the success and power he attained in life are as damning an indictment as you can read against the fiber of American society, and that the entire world is worse off for him ever having lived in it. Everything he was and did was awful and worthless. Bury him under an outhouse.

Admirably succinct.

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 12:22:48pm

re: #775 Anymouse

I’m all scrambled with the puns… .

That’s pretty good, I may poach that.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:26:08pm

independent.co.uk

On the reports of the White House pulling Spanish-language Web pages, I am reminded of a stunt by the Tulsa World when wingnuts were pushing an English-only amendment in the 2008 election in Oklahoma.

The next day as an editorial statement, the newspaper printed the entire edition in Cherokee.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 12:26:40pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 12:28:06pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 12:28:32pm

re: #781 FormerDirtDart

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Whose fault is that asshole?

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 12:29:15pm
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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 12:29:30pm

re: #781 FormerDirtDart

Damn straight the country isn’t going to unify behind POTUS* Fuckface von Clownstick and his Republican stooges in Congress, despite the best efforts of the both-siderist skid marks in the media.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:30:12pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 12:31:41pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:32:25pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 12:33:59pm

re: #757 goddamnedfrank

That was probably before image hosting and twitter embedding though. Also before so many people started browsing on lower physical memory devices like smart phones and tablets.

LGF sucks so badly on my Win 10 tablet, that I use my phone for LGF while using the tablet for other sites on my lunch break.

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 12:34:45pm

re: #782 FormerDirtDart

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:36:46pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 12:39:54pm

That look being directed at Graham’s comments…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 12:40:08pm

re: #791 Anymouse

We should force everyone involved out of the country, ideally in chains, but our government considers Turkey to be an ally.

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b_sharp  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:47pm

re: #761 wrenchwench

Ah, the old days.

Well, you are one of the venerated LGF old timers. 2004 vintage.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 18, 2017 • 11:38:56pm

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