Who Shopped the Fake Document Smearing Chuck Schumer? None Other Than Holocaust Denier Chuck C. Johnson.

Chuck may be in serious trouble this time
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For years I’ve been saying that with their ridiculously slipshod standards and willingness to believe and circulate any smear against their perceived enemies, right wing “journalists” and bloggers have been setting themselves up for a major hoax that would end up getting one or more of them in serious trouble.

That day may have come round at last.

The back story: someone has been shopping around to various media outlets a PDF document that purported to show sexual harassment allegations against Sen. Chuck Schumer by a former staffer.

Allegations of sexual harassment against politicians and other powerful men are big news right now, and as soon as they heard about this document, a slew of media organizations began the feeding frenzy.

The source tells Axios that reporters from the Washington Post, CNN, BuzzFeed, The New Yorker and ABC all inquired about the document Tuesday.

However — the document was quickly revealed to be a sloppy forgery, and the former staffer named in it has reported it to the Washington DC Police and Capitol Police.

The former staffer said she took the matter to Washington, D.C. police on Tuesday. She said the police told her they were unsure of their jurisdiction in the case. She said she now plans to go to Capitol Police.

She told me in a statement: “The claims in this document are completely false, my signature is forged, and even basic facts about me are wrong. I have contacted law enforcement to determine who is responsible. I parted with Senator Schumer’s office on good terms and have nothing but the fondest memories of my time there.”

And now for the kicker: guess who turns out to be behind this document?

Yes, it’s our old pal the Holocaust denier, Chuck C. Johnson, who hooked up with rape aficionado Mike Cernovich to spread the smear against Schumer.

Journalist Will Sommer highlighted some Facebook posts by the Rage Furby yesterday, boasting about this alliance with Cernovich. He also posted a screenshot of a tweet by Cernovich hyping the fake document, which Creepy Mike has now deleted; Cernovich is now trying to pretend he never hyped the document.

Now that the fraud has been exposed and he’s in big trouble, Johnson is desperately back-pedaling, claiming that some anonymous person “sent” the document to him, and offering $10,000 for the identity of this possibly imaginary individual.

Most people seem to be assuming the target of this hoax was Chuck Schumer, but if it’s true that Johnson didn’t create it himself (an assertion we shouldn’t necessarily take at face value because Chuck is an inveterate liar) I think it’s also possible it was a sting intended to bring down Chuck C. Johnson — because he’s recently been involved in a very nasty war of words with master ratfcker Roger Stone, and this has the smell of a setup to burn the Rage Furby and anyone who worked with him to promote it.

Our boy Chuck has had a serious run-in with the Capitol Police before, when he tried to crash a fundraiser for John Boehner last year. He was detained, frisked and questioned. So they’ll have a file on Chuck and his stalking behavior.

And just as a matter of record, Chuck has also stalked yours truly in real life, showing up at an apartment building where I used to live and posting photos on Twitter of himself standing outside the building. This is the kind of activity he enjoys.

But this time, Chuck may have finally crossed the line into outright criminal behavior, all because he was too excited about “taking down” Chuck Schumer to do basic fact-checking first. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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586 comments

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:28:08am

*ENDLESS SOUNDS OF RAUCOUS MERRIMENT*

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:29:28am

I’m waiting for some kind of confirmation from Jim Hoft..

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:31:25am

re: #2 bill d. (b.d.)

I’m waiting for some kind of confirmation from Jim Hoft..

//

I don’t believe anything is true until Bill Mitchell verifies!

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A Mom Anon  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:31:36am

Dear Santa,
I have tried very hard to be a good girl this year, under very trying circumstances. All I really want for Christmas is an arrest warrant for a certain pro-rapist rapey shitmuffin and an evil red demon elf. I promise I won’t ask for anything else and will leave you some lovely baked goods on Christmas Eve.

Merry Christmas!
A Mom Anon

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:32:29am

Yeah, if this was a setup by Roger Stone, well……I just might laugh myself to death.

Like the saying goes, “old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance”. And Stone is a ratfucker extraordinare…..no one I’d wanna tangle with.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:35:25am

re: #5 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, if this was a setup by Roger Stone, well……I just might laugh myself to death.

Like the saying goes, “old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance”. And Stone is a ratfucker extraordinare…..no one I’d wanna tangle with.

It wouldn’t be unlike Stone to do that. He hates CCJ because people like CCJ threaten what he’s spent a career in.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:36:25am

BTW thank you lizards for the Charlie Chaplin speech yesterday. My Dad loved it. Will be showing later to mom, grandma, & brothers.

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petesh  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:38:11am

In re: the image: Is that a peanut in your pants or are you just scared to see me?

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:38:48am

im gonna repeat from downstairs

“I sent the document to multiple journalists, lawyers, and members of Congress, all of whom agreed it should be investigated”

a pdf, not an original

so name these journalists, lawyers, and members of Congress etc so we can know who didn’t have the brains to ask where it came from or independently authenticate the source somehow and all leaped right to “it should be investigated”

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:39:03am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

BTW thank you lizards for the Charlie Chaplin speech yesterday. My Dad loved it. Will be showing later to mom, grandma, & brothers.

It’s widely considered one of the greatest monologues in cinema history. Chaplin wrote it himself and he did a damn fine job, I’d say.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:40:24am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

It’s widely considered one of the greatest monologues in cinema history. Chaplin wrote it himself and he did a damn fine job, I’d say.

It’s not only a great film speech but a great speech period about humanity over tyranny. There are many a politician who couldn’t speak that beautifully.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:41:07am

as a personal aside, .

i’d like to vote that no one ever posts actual pictures of the furby.
every single one creeps me out

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piratedan  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:41:20am

well, I’m sure that our “thoughts and prayers” are with Mssrs. Johnson and Cernovich during these difficult times…. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:43:04am

re: #13 piratedan

well, I’m sure that our “thoughts and prayers” are with Mssrs. Johnson and Cernovich during this difficult times…. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Yes. We want to see both of them get what they deserve!

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:45:16am
Now that the fraud has been exposed and he’s in big trouble, Johnson is desperately back-pedaling, claiming that some anonymous person “sent” the document to him, and offering $10,000 for the identity of this possibly imaginary individual.

Plus another thousand for the name of the real killer in the OJ case.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:45:32am

re: #9 dangerman

im gonna repeat from downstairs

a pdf, not an original

so name these journalists, lawyers, and members of Congress etc so we can know who didn’t have the brains to ask where it came from or independently authenticate the source somehow and all leaped right to “it should be investigated”

Well maybe what they meant was “the provenance of this document should be investigated.”

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:46:26am
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Amory Blaine  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:47:04am

re: #12 dangerman

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:47:09am

Angela Rye on CNN right now!!

LOL can’t wait for the vid

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:47:19am

anonymous my ass

its a pdf

how’d you get it?

and if you did receive it anonymously, being the great journalist you are how come you didnt try and confirm it?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:47:44am

For someone with such a huge IQ, one would think Rage Furby wouldn’t be so easily duped. Sad.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:47:48am

re: #17 Kragar

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The faith of a man who wants to criminalize other faiths? Yeah I have no problem with that. Moore isn’t the Dalai Lama or even Pope Benedict.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:47:53am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

BTW thank you lizards for the Charlie Chaplin speech yesterday. My Dad loved it. Will be showing later to mom, grandma, & brothers.

A Scottish neo-soul singer named Paolo Nutini used it in a song. The song is gorgeous, the film that goes with it is striking.

Paolo Nutini - Iron Sky [Short Film]

That song moves me right to tears in the right circumstances. Nutini is really good.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:48:10am

re: #21 Dr. Matt

For someone with such a huge IQ, one would think Rage Furby wouldn’t be so easily duped. Sad.

He’s got zero street smarts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:48:29am

re: #9 dangerman

im gonna repeat from downstairs

a pdf, not an original

so name these journalists, lawyers, and members of Congress etc so we can know who didn’t have the brains to ask where it came from or independently authenticate the source somehow and all leaped right to “it should be investigated”

Let me guess! Larry Klayman, Jim Hoft, Louie Gohmert, Jim Jordan…

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:49:15am

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Angela Rye on CNN right now!!

LOL can’t wait for the vid

She just cracked me up with her “AAAAAUGH!” LOL

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:49:36am

re: #23 makeitstop

A Scottish neo-soul singer named Paolo Nutini used it in a song. The song is gorgeous, the film that goes with it is striking.

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That song moves me right to tears in the right circumstances. Nutini is really good.

Honestly no speech had better described my basic philosophy Better.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:49:42am

re: #18 Amory Blaine

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perfect
we can use it as a stand in and all know who we’re talking about

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:50:01am

gotta go make a spectacle of myself at the eye doc

more later

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:51:04am

re: #29 dangerman

gotta go make a spectacle of myself at the eye doc

more later

Eye saw what you did there.

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:51:38am

re: #29 dangerman

gotta go make a spectacle of myself at the eye doc

more later

Take your spouse so there will be a pair.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:52:14am

re: #31 Belafon

Take your spouse so there will be a pair.

And stop for a Corona after to celebrate.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:52:26am

re: #30 allegro

Eye saw what you did there.

I’d like to be a pupil in his school of humor.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:53:16am

re: #17 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:53:25am

re: #33 makeitstop

I’d like to be a pupil in his school of humor.

Iris you guys wouldn’t make eye puns.

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Interesting Times  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:53:27am

re: #29 dangerman

gotta go make a spectacle of myself at the eye doc

Yes, but make sure you consider the optics of the situation first.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:53:49am

Well, this is going to be a bit of a legal tangle.

Schumer probably can’t sue because Times v. Sullivan … but the staffer who was being used as a pawn is NOT a public figure, and spreading allegations without checking with her or verifying them in any way … to multiple news organizations … sure sounds like that would meet the standard of both “publishing” and “reckless disregard for the truth.”

At that point, yes, legal penalties would attach. And trying to ratfuck the Democratic Senate Leader will, shall we say, motivate some people to seek payback.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:54:26am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Iris you guys wouldn’t make eye puns.

Should be punishable by 50 lashes.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:54:43am

re: #29 dangerman

gotta go make a spectacle of myself at the eye doc

more later

Now a real pro at this would have ended with “See ya later!” instead of your way.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:55:40am

re: #39 whitebeach

Now a real pro at this would have ended with “See ya later!” instead of your way.

Better a dilate than a dollar short.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:55:54am

That picture though…holy shit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:56:47am

re: #37 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Well, this is going to be a bit of a legal tangle.

Schumer probably can’t sue because Times v. Sullivan … but the staffer who was being used as a pawn is NOT a public figure, and spreading allegations without checking with her or verifying them in any way … to multiple news organizations … sure sounds like that would meet the standard of both “publishing” and “reckless disregard for the truth.”

At that point, yes, legal penalties would attach. And trying to ratfuck the Democratic Senate Leader will, shall we say, motivate some people to seek payback.

Schumer could sue. It would just be harder to make a case, and probably not worth the effort.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:57:23am

re: #39 whitebeach

Now a real pro at this would have ended with “See ya later!” instead of your way.

But you see, that wouldn’t be much pun.

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BeachDem  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:57:49am

re: #17 Kragar

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And on that note—heh

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:58:16am

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

That picture though…holy shit.

He looks like a really bad villain who easily gets outwitted by 007.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:58:18am

BTW, why is Rage Furby sitting in an IKEA armchair with Han Solo’s blaster?

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:58:26am

Angela rocks!!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:58:32am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:00:24pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

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Ha, she’s only human. I’m sure April was feeling it too but she’s diplomatic.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:00:27pm

re: #29 dangerman

no need to just go, with your phone you can be in contact…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:00:54pm

re: #17 Kragar

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:03:59pm

re: #46 Dr. Matt

BTW, why is Rage Furby sitting in an IKEA armchair with Han Solo’s blaster?

You know the boy has a rich fantasy-life.

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coin operated  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:04:04pm

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:04:28pm

re: #37 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Well, this is going to be a bit of a legal tangle.

Schumer probably can’t sue because Times v. Sullivan … but the staffer who was being used as a pawn is NOT a public figure, and spreading allegations without checking with her or verifying them in any way … to multiple news organizations … sure sounds like that would meet the standard of both “publishing” and “reckless disregard for the truth.”

At that point, yes, legal penalties would attach. And trying to ratfuck the Democratic Senate Leader will, shall we say, motivate some people to seek payback.

Well, from what I can see at the moment, Schumer is not considering suing but is instead looking for criminal charges to be filed.
IANAL, but I believe those are two entirely different things?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:04:55pm

re: #53 coin operated

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

Anything from Crooked Media.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:05:21pm

Being afraid to mock ridiculous and evil bullshit because Gawd is a large part of what has gotten us to here. Treating such beliefs as sacred, off limits to questioning and, when appropriate, derision serves no good whatsoever.

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JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:06:42pm

Quite a ride! I am deceased!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:09:00pm

re: #51 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Take all the victory laps you want. The people of Alabama elected Doug Jones & that’s something Democrats deserve to celebrate. But shame on you for mocking any man’s faith. I have a hard time believing we’d ever see a tweet like this if a conservative Muslim lost an election. https://

we are dealing with a mindset that still says

Christian = American, good
Muslim = foreign, bad

without making any further differentiation into how a person practices that faith

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JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:09:07pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:09:11pm

Maybe we’ll finally find out what her job there was.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:09:24pm

re: #57 JordanRules

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Quite a ride! I am deceased!

This is how normal resignations go.//

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:10:01pm
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danarchy  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:10:07pm

re: #53 coin operated

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

Not exactly a lefty podcast, but I am a big fan of the Skeptics Guide to the Universe. They try to avoid politics when possible, but it isn’t always possible.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:10:59pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

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Small wins but very happy.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:11:02pm

re: #4 A Mom Anon

Dear Santa,
I have tried very hard to be a good girl this year, under very trying circumstances. All I really want for Christmas is an arrest warrant for a certain pro-rapist rapey shitmuffin and an evil red demon elf. I promise I won’t ask for anything else and will leave you some lovely baked goods on Christmas Eve.

Merry Christmas!
A Mom Anon

Oh, no no! I would take an arrest warrant for Trump and his shifty, shitty children. And everyone associated with his ascension (Stone, Guiliani,, I don’t care who, every last one of them

It’s treason time!

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:11:05pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:12:14pm

re: #57 JordanRules

There is security camera footage somewhere. Is it subject to FOIA?

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:12:31pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

It wouldn’t be unlike Stone to do that. He hates CCJ because people like CCJ threaten what he’s spent a career in.

Not just threaten people like Stone, he threatened Stone himself. There was an exchange posted the other day. Chucky invited Stone’s ratfucking to come to his front door. And I am sure it took old Rog like 30 minutes to wrap it up in a pretty red bow.

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danarchy  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:13:19pm

re: #59 JordanRules

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If I recall correctly that didn’t work back then either.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:14:24pm

IT WAS A SIGN YOU FOOLS

Burns and other evangelical leaders were in the Oval Office on Monday to present President Trump an award in gratitude for recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of the state of Israel. Then something unusual happened: “A spider almost ate him,” Burns said Tuesday.

In Burns’s account, he was standing behind Trump, who was seated at the Resolute desk in the Oval Office, when he noticed a white spider the size of a half-dollar making its way up the president’s back.

“I just thought I was dreaming,” recounted Burns in a telephone interview. “Is that really a spider running up the back of the president of the United States?”

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:14:40pm

re: #18 Amory Blaine

Hmmm…Trump? Chucky? Trump? Chucky?

Hard one.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:15:33pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

IT WAS A SIGN YOU FOOLS

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They’re all good spiders.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:16:03pm

re: #57 JordanRules

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:18:17pm

re: #53 coin operated

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

John Avarosis from AmericaBlog has a podcast. I don’t listen to podcasts, but I always liked him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:20:30pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

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I’m more qualified for the federal bench than these guys, and I’d never even be considered a possible candidate.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:20:52pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:20:56pm

re: #23 makeitstop

A Scottish neo-soul singer named Paolo Nutini used it in a song. The song is gorgeous, the film that goes with it is striking.

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That song moves me right to tears in the right circumstances. Nutini is really good.

Nutini is Scottish???

Heh, I always thought he was Italian.

(I should know better…a race car driver I used to follow a bit named Dario Franchitti is also Scottish. What’s up with these guys fooling us like that…damnit!)

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JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:22:07pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:22:56pm

re: #73 Ace-o-aces

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Someone make a FOIA request for the video!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:23:32pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Charles Barkley did more for Jones than Sanders did.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:24:55pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Charles Barkley did more for Jones than Sanders did.

And I think Charles is a Republican!

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:25:48pm

re: #78 JordanRules

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:26:43pm

re: #76 Kragar

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:26:45pm

re: #76 Kragar

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The remark is often attributed to Tonto, but I think it applies to pretty much everything Bernie says: “What you mean ‘we,’ paleface?”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:27:33pm

We aren’t the only country suffering from the depredations of Christian fundamentalism:

Rio’s Pentecostal mayor takes on the capital of Carnival

The mayor of this sultry metropolis slashed funding for Carnival, its gay pride parade and a procession honoring an Afro-Brazilian goddess. Mayor Marcelo Crivella, a Pentecostal Christian, calls the moves fiscal prudence. But Rio’s libertines see a thinly veiled crusade to impose God’s law from city hall.

As political polarization intensifies in the United States, Latin America’s largest nation is locked in its own escalating culture wars, with the rise of an increasingly powerful religious right.

Evangelical politicians such as Crivella — a 60-year old bishop and former gospel singer who once claimed homosexuality could result from botched abortions — are finding enormous success in Brazil. Their rise comes as conservative Protestant faiths make massive inroads in this predominantly Catholic country and as corruption scandals taint traditional parties, causing more Brazilians to vote outside the box.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:29:02pm

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

And I think Charles is a Republican!

Not anymore though he did support Kasich just last year. I think he’s an Independent. Sanders making this about wealthy people is profoundly dishonest.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:30:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:30:49pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

We aren’t the only country suffering from the depredations of Christian fundamentalism:

Rio’s Pentecostal mayor takes on the capital of Carnival

Homosexuality results from botched abortions? Wtf. Man Evangelicals believe wacky shit.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:31:02pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I can imagine superstitious theocrats taking over the whole hemisphere and setting up a kind of Holy Roller Empire.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:31:42pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I can imagine superstitious theocrats taking over the whole hemisphere and setting up a kind of Holy Roller Empire.

Secular people and religious moderates need to push back.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:32:34pm

re: #77 ObserverArt

Nutini is Scottish???

Heh, I always thought he was Italian.

(I should know better…a race car driver I used to follow a bit named Dario Franchitti is also Scottish. What’s up with these guys fooling us like that…damnit!)

Weird, right? I thought he was a native Italian, too.

At any rate, great young soul singer.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:33:35pm

re: #87 Kragar

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As McCain would say, “regular order.”

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:33:55pm

re: #87 Kragar

“after the vote” he meant to add.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:35:26pm

re: #53 coin operated

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

Preet’s “Stay Tuned” (but it’s only 1/week). Also listen to WTF for good cultural interviews. Sinica podcast for really informed conversation about China. Kermode and Mayo for funny convo and movie reviews. Looking for a couple more historically oriented. I get too politicked out.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:35:31pm

re: #87 Kragar

So we don’t know what’s in the final bill? Why, then, is Dumpster showcasing people who will supposedly benefit from it then?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:35:59pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

We aren’t the only country suffering from the depredations of Christian fundamentalism:

Rio’s Pentecostal mayor takes on the capital of Carnival

I can confirm that Brazil is a regular missionary stop for the minister of a Southern Baptist Church in Frankfort; he’s fluent in Portugese.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:36:12pm

Someone tell Sanders that Jones’ economic message was quite populist and he still lost Bernie’s WWC. We won because Jones ran a great campaign and embraced our base there and expanded it.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:36:55pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Homosexuality results from botched abortions? Wtf. Man Evangelicals believe wacky shit.

It’s pretty much the definition of “Evangelical.” Anybody who believes that the book of Revelation is some kind of documentary is capable of believing anything.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:36:55pm

re: #95 Sir John Barron

So we don’t know what’s in the final bill? Why, then, is Dumpster showcasing people who will supposedly benefit from it then?

The same reason he had Spicey hold a press conference in front of a stack of blank papers. They’re props.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:39:34pm

Incidentally…

I was out driving around earlier and had news station 1010 WINS on in the truck. Their headline stories…

1. Moore’s defeat
2. The USA Today editorial
3. The Schumer smear fail

Not a good day in NYC news media for Cadet Bone Spur (love that moniker - thank, Tammy Duckworth!)

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:41:38pm

re: #95 Sir John Barron

So we don’t know what’s in the final bill? Why, then, is Dumpster showcasing people who will supposedly benefit from it then?

Because they said “We LOVE our president. He’s a great man!”

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Bubblehead II  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:41:48pm

OOPS! wrong embed.

PIMF!

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:44:20pm

re: #91 makeitstop

Weird, right? I thought he was a native Italian, too.

At any rate, great young soul singer.

Yeah he is. I watch MTV Live sometimes as background music and I’ve seen his act at the Glastonbury Festival concert highlights. He seems to be a big hit with the attendees.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:44:24pm

re: #99 Kragar

The same reason he had Spicey hold a press conference in front of a stack of blank papers. They’re props.

The first family out was a black family. Trump stood there in the middle of them beaming at his blacks himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:45:39pm
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Jay C  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:46:11pm

re: #100 makeitstop

Incidentally…

I was out driving around earlier and had news station 1010 WINS on in the truck. Their headline stories…

1. Moore’s defeat
2. The USA Today editorial
3. The Schumer smear fail

Not a good day in NYC news media for Cadet Bone Spur (love that moniker - thank, Tammy Duckworth!)

And hopefully (though I’m not too optimistic about the prospects) the national media will soon do likewise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:47:05pm
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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:47:36pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Could you put that into English for me? I think he needed to break that into two tweets. I’m lost.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:48:17pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:49:04pm

re: #109 Kragar

BREAKING: The Republican Party of Alabama has conceded to G Douglas Jones and declared the Senate race over, withdrawing support for Roy Moore’s effort to request a recount.

all well and good, but God has not spoken on the issue

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:49:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:49:40pm

re: #109 Kragar

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My guess is even though they backed him all the way is the Alabama GOP is glad to be rid of him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:49:50pm

re: #108 MsJ

Could you put that into English for me? I think he needed to break that into two tweets. I’m lost.

House would send their bill over to the Senate and go home for Christmas.
But Senate would make changes and the House would have to come back to DC to deal with that (and send it back to the Senate, lol)

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:49:56pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOP conference committee is a lot of “you’re out of order!” “no you’re out of order!” fights so far

I’m still not convinced they’re ever going to get this done.

In the hands of competent legislators it might pass. These clowns? They give me reason to hope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:50:29pm
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TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:50:48pm

re: #77 ObserverArt

Nutini is Scottish???

Heh, I always thought he was Italian.

(I should know better…a race car driver I used to follow a bit named Dario Franchitti is also Scottish. What’s up with these guys fooling us like that…damnit!)

Franchitti was married to Ashley Judd, BTW.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:50:52pm

re: #111 jaunte

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This is a man FNC threw a fit over Obama inviting but could care less about Bannon being a WH adviser.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:51:11pm

re: #114 makeitstop

I’m still not convinced they’re ever going to get this done.

In the hands of competent legislators it might pass. These clowns? They give me reason to hope.

You may be right, but there will be hell to pay with their donors if they can’t get it done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:52:01pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:52:15pm

That bill failing to pass by years end would be a great Christmas gift

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Sir John Barron  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:52:17pm

re: #109 Kragar

BREAKING: The Republican Party of Alabama has conceded to @GDouglasJones and declared the Senate race over, withdrawing support for Roy Moore’s effort to request a recount

rinos.

/

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:53:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:53:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:53:44pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

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According to wiki he did, but he sure as hell wasn’t GOTVing.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:55:58pm

re: #118 Big Beautiful Door

You may be right, but there will be hell to pay with their donors if they can’t get it done.

And hell to pay with their constituents if they do.

I know, I know, who’s paying the bills, etc. BUT

There are demonstrations going on all over the country, and the longer they go on the more unpopular this bill will become. And it isn’t exactly America’s sweetheart now.

We’re almost in 2018, and some of these chumps are going to start to get cold feet. Given a choice between saving their own asses and making Trump look good, some may decide they love their own asses more than the one squatting in the White House.

They’ve painted themselves into a corner. The best corner, buhlieve me.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:56:13pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

According to wiki he did, but he sure as hell wasn’t GOTVing.

In fairness, probably better that Sanders stayed out of Alabama and this race.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:56:41pm

Bernie needs to get out of Vermont some or at least stop doing town halls with white only voters and then maybe he’d see our coalition. Both Lt Governors elected this fall are African Americans.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:57:09pm

I saw this coming last night. Busters love weaponizing the minority status of the dumbfucks in their ranks. Apparently being a trans woman in Alabama is enough to give someone special license to condone overt bigotry because reasons.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:57:14pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

That bill failing to pass by years end would be a great Christmas gift

The only thing better would be a long list of Christmas Eve indictments.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:57:23pm

re: #126 Sir John Barron

In fairness, probably better that Sanders stayed out of Alabama and this race.

No disagreement there but him trying to attach his movement to Jones victory is crass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:57:39pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

If Bernie likes white people I know a whole party that could help him with that…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 12:59:34pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

I saw this coming last night. Busters love weaponizing the minority status of the dumbfucks in their ranks. Apparently being a trans woman in Alabama is enough to give someone special license to condone overt bigotry because reasons.

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I thought they were against identity politics in Bernie world. It’s git nothing to do with her being trans, it has to do with she chose to play ideological purity in this race. Being trans or in Alabama isn’t a free pass.

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:00:23pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

Isn’t the old saying “Purists can never fail, they can only be failed?”

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:00:26pm

MsJ…

I was listening to Sports Radio in my kitchen as I was whipping up some meatballs. They had an interview going on with John Tortorella the coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets NHL hockey club. They started to talk about doggies left out in the cold and what people should do if they see a pooch in poor conditions, etc.

Torts is a huge doggie fan and runs a foundation to help rescue and place dogs along with other activities. The guy doing the radio interview (97.1 FM Columbus The Fan) is also a supporter of Torts’ foundation.

I thought of you and wanted to post a link the the foundation site. I know you do a lot of dog rescue and placement and this may be another source for your work.

The John and Christine Tortorella Family Foundation for Giving Back

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Sir John Barron  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:00:36pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

No disagreement there but him trying to attach his movement to Jones victory is crass.

Right, and probably doesn’t help Jones any as he takes office.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:00:50pm

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

If Bernie likes white people I know a whole party that could help him with that…

I honestly don’t think Bernie is a racist in the sense Trump is but I think he’s more like many Republicans are on race than Democrats in that he’s indifferent. Not much a defense nor intended to be.

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:01:33pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:01:53pm

re: #125 makeitstop

Given a choice between saving their own asses and making Trump look good, some may decide they love their own asses more than the one squatting in the White House.

We’ve gotta protect our phony baloney jobs!

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:02:25pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:03:26pm
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nines09  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:03:35pm
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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:04:16pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t think Bernie is a racist in the sense Trump is but I think he’s more like many Republicans are on race than Democrats in that he’s indifferent. Not much a defense nor intended to be.

He seems to be stuck on “what’s good for whites is what’s good for the country.” That used to be true for GM as well, but it’s not any more. On the other hand, taking care of everyone will take care of whites.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:04:40pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Bernie needs to get out of Vermont some or at least stop doing town halls with white only voters and then maybe he’d see our coalition. Both Lt Governors elected this fall are African Americans.

Nah. He’d be doing the country a favor by staying home. ;)

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:05:40pm

re: #125 makeitstop

And hell to pay with their constituents if they do.

I know, I know, who’s paying the bills, etc. BUT

There are demonstrations going on all over the country, and the longer they go on the more unpopular this bill will become. And it isn’t exactly America’s sweetheart now.

We’re almost in 2018, and some of these chumps are going to start to get cold feet. Given a choice between saving their own asses and making Trump look good, some may decide they love their own asses more than the one squatting in the White House.

They’ve painted themselves into a corner. The best corner, buhlieve me.

This is what happens when you run on an agenda of improving healthcare, cutting taxes for the middle class and investing in infrastructure to create middle class jobs, then pursue an agenda of screwing the middle class to transfer wealth to the rich instead.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:05:41pm

re: #139 Scottish Dragon

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:06:02pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

I love that! Thank you.

I will never not be shocked seeing Horse Rescue. Who invests in a horse only to get to the point of it needing rescue?

Why I am surprised I do not know. Kids need rescue. Why not every other living thing.

Humans suck.

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scottslemmons  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:06:06pm

re: #139 Scottish Dragon

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:06:31pm

re: #116 TedStriker

Franchitti was married to Ashley Judd, BTW.

Yep. Knew that. He’s out of racing now, he suffered a real bad back injury in a crash during a race in Houston a few years back and the docs told him no more high speed crashes for you or you may never walk/move again. Ashley helped nurse him back after that even though they had already split.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:06:49pm

re: #147 scottslemmons

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:07:25pm

re: #139 Scottish Dragon

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No, but i’m hearing you’re a fucking moron who will believe anything. Face it Billy, you fucking lost.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:07:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:08:27pm

re: #143 GlutenFreeJesus

Nah. He’d be doing the country a favor by staying home. ;)

I honestly really want him to learn. I sure as hell don’t want him as our President but he’s in our caucus for the foreseeable future. It would do him some good to actually listen to minority voters.

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Interesting Times  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:10:08pm

o.O

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:12:24pm
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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:12:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:13:03pm

re: #155 Kragar

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I hear rumors that Bill Mitchell makes Mrs. Mitchell wear a Donald Trump mask and fuck him.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:14:18pm

I wonder when the MSM will revert to telling us how the victory in Alabama is
a) Bad for Democrats
b) Not a referendum on Trump
c) Nothing the Dems should be spiking the football over
d) Not an excuse of Hillary running a bad campaign

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Sir John Barron  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:15:20pm

re: #155 Kragar

I am hearing rumors that black voters from MS were encouraged to cross over into AL and vote. Anyone else hearing this? Anything to it? That might explain the 30% turnout higher than population percentage. Just reporting the rumor

Hey, I’m just asking questions…it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

/

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:15:47pm

re: #157 Dr. Matt

I wonder when the MSM will revert to telling us how the victory in Alabama is
a) Bad for Democrats
b) Not a referendum on Trump
c) Nothing the Dems should be spiking the football over
d) Not an excuse of Hillary running a bad campaign

Santorum was desperate to do B and C but even he couldn’t do A and D.

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:16:27pm

re: #155 Kragar

I hear rumors Mitchell is actually a Democrat, screwing up Republicans ability to govern.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:16:45pm

What I’m interseted in watching is how Bannon makes his impact in other primaries. He’s shown he doesn’t care about quality candidates. I mean Strange would have been awful too but no way does Jones beat him- with all respect to Jones since Strange is pretty much Generic Alabama Republican.

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:16:51pm

re: #157 Dr. Matt

I wonder when the MSM will revert to telling us how the victory in Alabama is
a) Bad for Democrats

I heard that this morning. The thought was that now the Democrats can’t use Roy Moore against the Republicans.

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:17:13pm

Maybe use Trump instead.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:17:21pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

o.O

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Heh, just as some of expected. Lindsey changed a ton over the past year under Trump…it sure couldn’t have been he loved Trump.

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Jay C  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:17:34pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

bbc.com

Jeeez! Great job the Tories are doing - are they taking lessons from our Congressional Republicans?

re: #136 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t think Bernie is a racist in the sense Trump is but I think he’s more like many Republicans are on race than Democrats in that he’s indifferent. Not much a defense nor intended to be.

True: Bernie seems to base his whole political shtick on the classic (but always-dubious and now, VERY old-hat) socialist analysis that “working-class anxiety” is virtually exclusively a matter of sheer economic interest, and that the less-savory aspects of said “anxiety” (and in America, those would be endemic racism, sexism, near-paranoid xenophobia, religious nuttery, etc) can be hand-waved away by appeals to “self-interest”. While ignoring the fact that for so (too) many of the “WWC”, self-interest isn’t a motivating political factor unless Somebody Else can be seen to suffer thereby.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:18:02pm

re: #157 Dr. Matt

I wonder when the MSM will revert to telling us how the victory in Alabama is
a) Bad for Democrats
b) Not a referendum on Trump
c) Nothing the Dems should be spiking the football over
d) Not an excuse of Hillary running a bad campaign

Someone tried the ‘not a referendum’ thing last night. I don’t think it worked.

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danarchy  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:18:10pm

re: #146 MsJ

I love that! Thank you.

I will never not be shocked seeing Horse Rescue. Who invests in a horse only to get to the point of it needing rescue?

Why I am surprised I do not know. Kids need rescue. Why not every other living thing.

Humans suck.

This is a Veterinarian that worked in the same building as my vet. He was like 150 years old or something so I am not surprised he wasn’t able to take care of a whole farm full of horses, but as vet I’d expect him to arrange for better care:

telegram.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:18:13pm

re: #160 Belafon

I hear rumors Mitchell is actually a Democrat, screwing up Republicans ability to govern.

Stole that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:18:18pm

re: #162 jaunte

I heard that this morning. The thought was that now the Democrats can’t use Roy Moore against the Republicans.

They sure as hell can and should.Republican voters nominated Moore, supported him, and the Republican establishment supported him financially.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:18:58pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I honestly really want him to learn. I sure as hell don’t want him as our President but he’s in our caucus for the foreseeable future. It would do him some good to actually listen to minority voters.

This is Bernie.

Beverly Hills Cop 1 I am not listening to you!

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retired cynic  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:19:09pm

re: #53 coin operated

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

professionalleft.blogspot.com with driftglass and blue gal.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:19:41pm

re: #162 jaunte

I heard that this morning. The thought was that now the Democrats can’t use Roy Moore against the Republicans.

Not against the Republicans who wrote in a candidate, or voted for Jones, but it can sure be used against anyone who supported the child-molester.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:19:44pm

re: #155 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:20:09pm

re: #165 Jay C

bbc.com

Jeeez! Great job the Tories are doing - are they taking lessons from our Congressional Republicans?

True: Bernie seems to base his whole political shtick on the classic (but always-dubious and now, VERY old-hat) socialist analysis that “working-class anxiety” is virtually exclusively a matter of sheer economic interest, and that the less-savory aspects of said “anxiety” (and in America, those would be endemic racism, sexism, near-paranoid xenophobia, religious nuttery, etc) can be hand-waved away by appeals to “self-interest”. While ignoring the fact that for so (too) many of the “WWC”, self-interest isn’t a motivating political factor unless Somebody Else can be seen to suffer thereby.

I mean don’t get me wrong. I’m not giving Bernie a free pass but I really do think it comes from sheltering himself in Vermont and going to those very white townhalls he likes to frequent. I also think he’s shown himself insensitive to racism and its impacts i na way that HRC, Obama, Jones, and other prominent Democrats aren’t. It’s honestly pretty frustrating for someone who proclaimed himself a proud New Yorker when Cruz bashed NYC.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:20:15pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

What I’m interseted in watching is how Bannon makes his impact in other primaries. He’s shown he doesn’t care about quality candidates. I mean Strange would have been awful too but no way does Jones beat him- with all respect to Jones since Strange is pretty much Generic Alabama Republican.

Yeah…..if it had been Strange v. Jones, it would’ve been a GOP cakewalk.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:21:00pm

re: #172 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not against the Republicans who wrote in a candidate, or voted for Jones, but it can sure be used against anyone who supported the child-molester.

Like *cough* Trump.

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:21:56pm

re: #162 jaunte

I heard that this morning. The thought was that now the Democrats can’t use Roy Moore against the Republicans.

We still have Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:22:09pm

Fuck Bernie Sanders now and forever.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:23:07pm

Problem with Sanders is honestly he’s old and he’s convinced himself all society’s wrongs can be explained by economic inequality and that’s just not true. It’s never been true. That doesn’t mean we ignore economic inequality by the way but it doesn’t mean we only focus on inequality in economics and tell people who have legitimate issues that their isseus are “distractions” which is what Bernie’s response has been to racial and gender issues.

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danarchy  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:24:12pm

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

Fuck Bernie Sanders now and forever.

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I sense much anger in you. You know what Yoda says about that.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:24:17pm

re: #173 Dr. Matt

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So all those strange cattle mutilations that were found out in fields around the midwest and had bloodless excisions and thought to be the work of cults, secret military experiments or even aliens was Bill Mitchell all along???

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:24:50pm

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

Fuck Bernie Sanders now and forever.

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You are 100% correct Frank. Had Jones lost by even 1%, Sanders would be there yabbing about how awful it was Jones lost the WWC while ignoring that he got over 90% of the African-American vote.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

re: #166 makeitstop

Someone tried the ‘not a referendum’ thing last night. I don’t think it worked.

Fivethirtyeight says Moore’s loss was about a third unfavorable national political environment (a deeply unpopular president), a third Moore’s pre-sex scandal problems, and a third the child molestation charges, which combined to make it possible to bring down Moore in deep red Alabama. Republicans running next year in much less favorable states and districts than Alabama could be brought down by the national political environment and their own problems alone.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Problem with Sanders is honestly he’s old and he’s convinced himself all society’s wrongs can be explained by economic inequality and that’s just not true. It’s never been true. That doesn’t mean we ignore economic inequality by the way but it doesn’t mean we only focus on inequality in economics and tell people who have legitimate issues that their isseus are “distractions” which is what Bernie’s response has been to racial and gender issues.

Us olds can learn too. He won’t. Fuck Bernie.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:25:41pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

You are 100% correct Frank. Had Jones lost by even 1%, Sanders would be there yabbing about how awful it was Jones lost the WWC while ignoring that he got over 90% of the African-American vote.

Won’t anyone think of the racist white people?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:25:48pm

re: #180 danarchy

I sense much anger in you. You know what Yoda says about that.

Well given the way Sanders casually dismisses key members of our base’s coalition to go after an element in American politics who had many that abandoned the Democratic Party because we became pro-civil rights, I don’t blame him.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:26:11pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

So all those strange cattle mutilations that were found out in fields around the midwest and had bloodless excisions and thought to be the work of cults, secret military experiments or even aliens was Bill Mitchell all along???

A simple rape kit will verify Bill Mitchell’s deviant behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:26:28pm

re: #184 allegro

Us olds can learn too. He won’t. Fuck Bernie.

Yeah it’s not his age. I’m sorry I said that. That was foolish of me. It’s that he has an inability and unwillingness to learn.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:26:53pm

re: #180 danarchy

I sense much anger in you. You know what Yoda says about that.

“If start shit do you not , shit there will not be.”

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:29:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:31:00pm

re: #190 Kragar

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Correct.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:31:14pm

re: #180 danarchy

I sense much anger in you. You know what Yoda says about that.

Fuck Yoda. He’s an amoral taint gremlin who allowed Anakin’s Mom to remain in slavery, thereby ensuring that he would become a psychopath who would help destroy the Republic and murder a bunch of Jedi kids.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:32:03pm

Patreon reversed the fee change that cost a lot of people their $1/mo patrons.

The Bob Cesca Show posted
Patreon Cancels Fee Change

Some of you who support the show through our Patreon page have expressed anger and disappointment with the new Patreon fee structure. Simply put: Patreon decided to charge the credit card processing fees to subscribers (patrons) rather than deducting the fees from the monthly total paid to creators like me.

For example, with the old system, a $1-per-month subscription only netted creators like me 80-88 cents. In the new system, this change would’ve added around 38-cents to each $1 monthly charge instead of deducting the 38-cents from the payment to creators. Same goes for $5, $10 and $15 subscribers. Ultimately the change meant I would’ve been able to keep 95% of the monthly subscriptions, whereas before, creators only kept around 80-88%.

Long story short, subscribers revolted, and I lost at least a dozen-plus subscribers in the process.

Today, we received word that Patreon is reversing course and returning to the old fee structure in which I and other creators absorb all of the processing fees.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:33:14pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Fuck Yoda. He’s an amoral taint gremlin who allowed Anakin’s Mom to remain in slavery, thereby ensuring that he would become a psychopath who would help destroy the Republic and murder a bunch of Jedi kids.

Clearly I have thoughts on the matter.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:33:20pm

re: #190 Kragar

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I would say that the White Working Class can go fuck itself but they are already doing that with their idiotic support for Trump.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:33:29pm
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TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:33:30pm

re: #189 Kragar

“If start shit do you not , shit there will not be.”

Or, as is often said here in East Nashville, “don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit.”

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:34:36pm

re: #180 danarchy

I sense much anger in you. You know what Yoda says about that.

To know true inner peace, truly, fuck Bernie?

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TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:34:58pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Fuck Yoda. He’s an amoral taint gremlin who allowed Anakin’s Mom to remain in slavery, thereby ensuring that he would become a psychopath who helped destroy the Republic and murder a bunch of Jedi kids.

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Clearly I have thoughts on the matter.

Another in a long line of reasons why the SW prequels should have never been made.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:35:23pm

I got this from the Jones campaign…

—-, I’m so proud to tell you:

We WON the U.S. Senate race in Alabama!

Seven months ago when we launched this campaign, there weren’t a whole lot of people who thought a Democrat could win in this state.

But you did. Thousands and thousands of good Americans stepped up to win this race for Alabama and for our country. We ran a historic campaign and gave Alabamians something to be proud of, —-.

We went to the people and talked to them about the issues that mattered to them: affordable healthcare, creating good paying jobs, and making this a more fair and just country.

And most importantly, we listened.

This historic victory is yours as much as it is mine. So every single day I serve as Alabama’s next U.S. Senator, I will remember that.

I will remember the single mother who is worried her child might lose health insurance if we don’t fund the Children’s Health Insurance Program. I will remember the former iron workers whose jobs were shipped overseas at no fault of their own.

I will remember the courageous women who used their voices to speak out about the pain brought upon them by our opponent.

And I will remember the hope felt by the thousands of people I met across the state who want a better future for this country.

In the U.S. Senate, I will be a voice that hopefully makes you proud, whether we agree or disagree.

So from the bottom of my heart, —-, I thank you so much for your support in this race. We made history and no one will ever forget what we did here in Alabama.

Eternally grateful,

Doug Jones
U.S. Senator-Elect

Nice letter.

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Egregious Philbin  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:36:07pm

Mr. Poop on the Floor needs go away to a nice maximum security prison where he will meet all kinds of new friends…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:36:28pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Clearly I have thoughts on the matter.

You are not alone.

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:37:09pm

re: #201 Egregious Philbin

Mr. Poop on the Floor needs go away to a nice maximum security prison where he will meet all kinds of new friends…

That will make him clean up after himself.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:37:09pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Clearly I have thoughts on the matter.

Clearly. You posted that with all the passion you have for actual politics.

That scares me!

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:37:23pm

re: #190 Kragar

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danarchy  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:37:31pm

re: #200 makeitstop

I got this from the Jones campaign…

Nice letter.

I was half expecting a request for a donation for his 2020 re-election campaign at the bottom of the letter.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:39:30pm

re: #199 TedStriker

Another in a long line of reasons why the SW prequels should have never been made.

I would propose that you could actually take most of the elements of the prequels and make a far more satisfying film trilogy that would feel like a good Darth Vader origin story and a satisfying crash of the Republic.

Lucas just can’t write, is too in love with his “rhyming” plot structures, and likes CGI spectacle.

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Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:42:38pm

re: #207 The Ghost of a Flea

I will never forgive Lucas for turning space samurai into emotionally castrated self righteous monks.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:44:13pm

re: #207 The Ghost of a Flea

I would propose that you could actually take most of the elements of the prequels and make a far more satisfying film trilogy that would feel like a good Darth Vader origin story and a satisfying crash of the Republic.

Lucas just can’t write, is too in love with his “rhyming” plot structures, and likes CGI spectacle.

Of the prequel films, Revenge of the Sith was pretty decent. What saved it was a masterful performance by Ian McDiarmid (and a solid performance by Ewan McGregor) and that the script was given an uncredited polishing by the playwright Tom Stoppard. Even with that, the dialogue was a bit clunky here and there.

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Egregious Philbin  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:47:09pm

re: #53 coin operated

I love Gilbert Gottfried’s podcast, learn a lot of scary things about film legends and laugh your ass off at it. Also “Oh No! With Ross and Carrie” the hosts join cults go to woo woo pseudo science and paranormal conventions, and report on how insane they are. Kevin Pollack’s Chat Show, the best celebrity interview show, period.

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Jay C  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:48:03pm

re: #206 danarchy

I was half expecting a request for a donation for his 2020 re-election campaign at the bottom of the letter.

That Jones (or whoever in his organization composed/edited that letter) would actually go against current practice, and refrain from hitting the recipients up for a donation is one of the best things I’ve ever heard about him. Until the next round of robo-pitches, that is……

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piratedan  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:48:54pm

If GOP isn’t scared pantless by this outcome in Alabama then more power to them…. the Dem’s have been making a difference in big races and small ones….

from places like New Hampshire and Oklahoma, local races, Democratic candidates are winning in districts that we’re thought to be unreachable… the Virginia gerrymander was overcome in November, we nearly brought off the congressional Georgia race, Montana was also close and the win in New Jersey statehouse.

This is indeed a wave and as the GOP attempts to burn the fields and bring up the ladder behind them, people are paying attention and holding them accountable. Watching them piss on how lawmaking is done, doing their deeds in secret all the while decrying their opponents as actors in bad faith.

As the Russia investigation plays out, the battle hasn’t been won as of yet, but once the financial and logistical ties of assistance from a foreign power to not only Trump but the entire GOP there will be a reckoning and as we watch, we’re seeing the self-immolation of a political party unfold before our very eyes. In a way that scares the crap out of me because as a Democracy, we need at least two relevant parties, arguing on behalf of a set of principles and ideas as I have no illusions that the Dems have the market cornered on good ideas and yet, the GOP has abandoned all good faith in both the function of government and the ideals of the country to find themselves adrift, morally bankrupt and ethically devoid of purpose, unless you consider IGMFY an ethos for a rational national party.

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:49:30pm

re: #211 Jay C

That Jones (or whoever in his organization composed/edited that letter) would actually go against current practice, and refrain from hitting the recipients up for a donation is one of the best things I’ve ever heard about him. Until the next round of robo-pitches, that is……

Democrats are about to run in nearly every corner of the country. We want them to. Now we have to pay for it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:50:50pm

re: #213 Belafon

Democrats are about to run in nearly every corner of the country. We want them to. Now we have to pay for it.

Yep.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:56:35pm

re: #206 danarchy

I was half expecting a request for a donation for his 2020 re-election campaign at the bottom of the letter.

It was defeintely a nice change from the 50-some-odd fundraising emails I got up to the election, for sure.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:57:04pm

Time to call it a day here in Europe. Have a good one, Lizards.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:57:55pm

re: #39 whitebeach

Now a real pro at this would have ended with “See ya later!” instead of your way.

Well I’m back and can’t see a thing..those dilation drops…
“I could be typing the dimensions on playmate of the month”

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:58:49pm

I posted a link to the Roy Moore’s Horse Twitter account on Facebook.

Someone pointed out that ‘Sassy’ is also the name of a magazine for teen girls.

Coincidence? Hm.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:59:01pm

re: #213 Belafon

Democrats are about to run in nearly every corner of the country. We want them to. Now we have to pay for it.

Is Howard Dean available to come back and run a 50-state effort like he did in ‘08? We need that kind of strategic campaign.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 1:59:31pm

re: #217 dangerman

Well I’m back and can’t see a thing..those dilation drops…
“I could be typing the dimensions on playmate of the month”

It was a dangerous job, and you were just the man to do it.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:00:37pm

A cryptic TM from my nun: “I like our new state color.”

Must be clearer in the original Latin.

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sagehen  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:01:10pm

re: #53 coin operated

What podcasts do y’all listen to? I joined a gym and hope to spend mornings getting my ass in shape instead of loitering about on the net. Would love to keep up with a few good lefty podcasts. Bob Cesca is already a favorite…can y’all give an out-of-shape lizard a few more?

I recommend “Welcome to NightVale”
welcometonightvale.com
Humor/horror fiction. There’s more than 100 episodes, most of them are about

Here’s the pilot:

1 - Pilot

All hail the glow cloud.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:01:53pm

re: #75 Big Beautiful Door

I’m more qualified for the federal bench than these guys, and I’d never even be considered a possible candidate.

Bbd for judge!

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John Carter  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:02:06pm

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

Of the prequel films, Revenge of the Sith was pretty decent. What saved it was a masterful performance by Ian McDiarmid (and a solid performance by Ewan McGregor) and that the script was given an uncredited polishing by the playwright Tom Stoppard. Even with that, the dialogue was a bit clunky here and there.

The fundamental problem with the trilogy that is irreparable is that Anakin never went through a character arc. We all knew he was going to be Darth Vader some day but it would have been a much more interesting story if he was a likable good guy like his son that got corrupted by the dark side of the force.

See that would have made Return of the Jedi’s ending more meaningful as well. Consider Anakin facing the emperor alone (without his father) getting the same choice Luke was provided but in his case he chose dark.

We would have known that was going to happen going in but it could have been a good story and more tragic, only to be redeemed in Return of the Jedi.

They way they tell the story now is Anakin was always kind of an angry jerk so why did he even bother helping Luke in the end? That kindly old dying version of himself never existed in the prequels so where did he come from?

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piratedan  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:02:11pm

re: #219 whitebeach

hard to argue with the ground work put in by Mr. Perez in Virginia and Alabama thus far, and with the surplus of anvils that the GOP has loaded onto their dingy, I have no illusions that he’ll ensure that they’ll get a steady supply of anchors to help them….

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:04:32pm

re: #100 makeitstop

Incidentally…

I was out driving around earlier and had news station 1010 WINS on in the truck. Their headline stories…

1. Moore’s defeat
2. The USA Today editorial
3. The Schumer smear fail

Not a good day in NYC news media for Cadet Bone Spur (love that moniker - thank, Tammy Duckworth!)

I miss 1010.
Traffic on the eights

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:04:36pm

re: #225 piratedan

hard to argue with the ground work put in by Mr. Perez in Virginia and Alabama thus far, and with the surplus of anvils that the GOP has loaded onto their dingy, I have no illusions that he’ll ensure that they’ll get a steady supply of anchors to help them….

We’ve done a good job in some local elections too. Perez is doing better than DWS and Kaine so far. If I have a quibble with Obama, I think it’s that he gave the DNC to elected officials. Perez can focus his full attention on the DNC.

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William Lewis  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:05:29pm

re: #17 Kragar

And this Christian says you should mock him because that’s all his excuse for “faith” is worth.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:06:14pm

re: #212 piratedan

Well said. Truly.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:06:36pm

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

all well and good, but God has not spoken on the issue

Has Moore considered what if god’s plan all along was to humiliate him?

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A Mom Anon  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:08:08pm

re: #230 dangerman

A wise God answers all prayers. But sometimes the answer is no.

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:08:31pm

re: #219 whitebeach

Is Howard Dean available to come back and run a 50-state effort like he did in ‘08? We need that kind of strategic campaign.

Perez seems to be doing pretty well. I think we can stick with him.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:09:50pm

re: #217 dangerman

Well I’m back and can’t see a thing..those dilation drops…
“I could be typing the dimensions on playmate of the month”

Yeah, last time I was in they gave me those superdrops too. The black asphalt road out front looked like a magnesium fire in the sunlight. Fortunately the doc also gave me some extradark glasses. With them the road and everything else looked like an oil spill at midnight in the middle of the Gulf. Not much of an advance in terms of actually seeing things, but at least looking didn’t physically hurt.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:15:18pm

re: #139 Scottish Dragon

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You’re saying Alabama doesn’t have effective voter ID screening at the polls?

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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:16:34pm

re: #234 dangerman

You’re saying Alabama doesn’t have effective voter ID screening at the polls?

Some poll watchers like pineapple pizza, and some were so disgusted by it that they couldn’t do their jobs.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:19:52pm

re: #224 John Carter

The fundamental problem with the trilogy that is irreparable is that Anakin never went through a character arc.

Nah. The fundamental problem with SW is that they are so-so car-chase movies set in space, with elements of bad pirate and war movies thrown in. Issues of character development are about as relevant as they would be in a white-hat/black-hat Western.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:20:29pm

re: #226 dangerman

I miss 1010.
Traffic on the eights

They changed that - now it’s traffic on the ones.

CBS 880 still does ‘Traffic and Weather Together’ on the eights, though. If you time it right you can get two traffic reports every ten minutes, mostly for some other part of the city that you’re not driving in.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:21:04pm

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…..if it had been Strange v. Jones, it would’ve been a GOP cakewalk.

Pesky primaries

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:22:40pm

re: #183 Big Beautiful Door

Fivethirtyeight says Moore’s loss was about a third unfavorable national political environment (a deeply unpopular president), a third Moore’s pre-sex scandal problems, and a third the child molestation charges, which combined to make it possible to bring down Moore in deep red Alabama. Republicans running next year in much less favorable states and districts than Alabama could be brought down by the national political environment and their own problems alone.

Something like what you’ve been saying…

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:23:54pm

re: #236 whitebeach

Nah. The fundamental problem with SW is that they are so-so car-chase movies set in space, with elements of bad pirate and war movies thrown in. Issues of character development are about as relevant as they would be in a white-hat/black-hat Western.

The fundamental problem with SW is that nobody could ever seem to figure out that light sabers are rubbish vs shotguns.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:24:16pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

A cryptic TM from my nun: “I like our new state color.”

Must be clearer in the original Latin.

Hey, I was married to a Catholic, so can I give it a shot? I think she means Marian blue vs. red like a cardinal’s hat.

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William Lewis  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:24:18pm

re: #236 whitebeach

Nah. The fundamental problem with SW is that they are so-so car-chase movies set in space, with elements of bad pirate and war movies thrown in. Issues of character development are about as relevant as they would be in a white-hat/black-hat Western.

I’mma just gonna leave this here…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:24:55pm

re: #236 whitebeach

Nah. The fundamental problem with SW is that they are so-so car-chase movies set in space, with elements of bad pirate and war movies thrown in. Issues of character development are about as relevant as they would be in a white-hat/black-hat Western.

I loved the first one, and my enthusiasm declined with each successive release. Now I follow them because my kids are fans.

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EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:25:57pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

A cryptic TM from my nun: “I like our new state color.”

Must be clearer in the original Latin.

Blue vs. Red seems to be a reasonable guess, although just one Senator is hardly enough to turn AL blue.

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:26:04pm

re: #60 Skip Intro

Maybe we’ll finally find out what her job there was.

When it doesn’t get done? Good luck with that approach with Trump in charge.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:26:28pm

re: #238 dangerman

Pesky primaries

I was just hearing on CNN about how Jones was such a repulsive candidate that republicans couldn’t stand. Uhhh, hello? They voted for him in the primary. That’s why he was the GOP candidate. Moore IS the GOP. Trump IS the GOP. Bannon IS the GOP.

I see no mystery here.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:28:09pm

I actually kind of liked Rogue One just because it was self contained and bleak as fuck, the Nihilist Arby’s of Star Wars films.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:29:07pm

Hey Roy Moore, looks like there’s a job opening at FLDS.

bbc.com

A former leader of a breakaway polygamous Mormon sect has been given a nearly five-year sentence for fraud and fleeing house arrest in Utah.

Lyle Jeffs admitted to orchestrating what authorities have called the nation’s largest scheme to defraud the federal food benefits programme.

He was arrested in June after nearly a year on the run and has pleaded guilty.

His brother and former Mormon leader Warren Jeffs was jailed in 2011 on child sexual assault charges.

Warren Jeffs, the former president of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), was found guilty of forcing two underage girls into “spiritual marriage” and fathering a child with one of them when she was 15.

Lyle Jeffs, a former FLDS bishop, told a federal judge in Salt Lake City on Wednesday that he “humbly and respectfully say I acknowledge my mistakes and decision-making”.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:29:29pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

The fundamental problem with SW is that nobody could ever seemed to figure out that light sabers are rubbish vs shotguns.

That too. The whole notion of light sabers indicates a colossal disdain for the viewer’s intelligence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:30:18pm

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

Hey Roy Moore, looks like there’s a job opening at FLDS.

bbc.com

Mormon Porn has its own channel…

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:30:36pm

re: #220 makeitstop

It was a dangerous job, and you were just the man to do it.

I didn’t realize my one off joke would leave you all with so much material to amuse yourselves in my absence

Glad I could help

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William Lewis  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:31:15pm

re: #224 John Carter

The fundamental problem with the trilogy that is irreparable is that Anakin never went through a character arc. We all knew he was going to be Darth Vader some day but it would have been a much more interesting story if he was a likable good guy like his son that got corrupted by the dark side of the force.

See that would have made Return of the Jedi’s ending more meaningful as well. Consider Anakin facing the emperor alone (without his father) getting the same choice Luke was provided but in his case he chose dark.

We would have know that was going to happen going in but it could have been a good story and more tragic, only to be redeemed in Return of the Jedi.

They way they tell the story now is Anakin was also kind of an angry jerk so why did he even bother helping Luke in the end? That kindly old dying version of himself never existed in the prequels so where did he come from?

There was a blog post where a guy suggested what he called “Machete Order” for watching the movies. That is.

IV A New Hope
V Empire Strikes Back
II The Clone Wars
III Revenge of the Sith
VI Return of the Jedi

With 1 left out, as a way of dealing with some of those structural issues. It’s especially useful for introducing someone to the series.

Just as an aside, best to worst: V, Rogue One, IV, VI, VII, III, II ……………………………… I

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:33:02pm

re: #246 allegro

I was just hearing on CNN about how Jones was such a repulsive candidate that republicans couldn’t stand. Uhhh, hello? They voted for him in the primary. That’s why he was the GOP candidate. Moore IS the GOP. Trump IS the GOP. Bannon IS the GOP.

I see no mystery here.

Yeah Republican voters embraced Moore.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:34:09pm

re: #235 Belafon

Some poll watchers like pineapple pizza, and some were so disgusted by it that they couldn’t do their jobs.

Lgf’s reach is everywhere

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EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:34:37pm

re: #249 whitebeach

That too. The whole notion of light sabers indicates a colossal disdain for the viewer’s intelligence.

But they look cool.

Star Wars requires the same level of suspension of disbelief as any other fantasy story. If something like the force actually existed, the killer moves in force duels would be things like ‘collapse lung’, ‘blood clot in the foes brain’ and ‘testicular torsion’, instead of lightsaber moves and stupidly tossing the scenery at each other.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:35:52pm

re: #237 makeitstop

They changed that - now it’s traffic on the ones.

CBS 880 still does ‘Traffic and Weather Together’ on the eights, though. If you time it right you can get two traffic reports every ten minutes, mostly for some other part of the city that you’re not driving in.

Duh I shoulda realized. 1010 on the ones 880 ,on the eights
Been a while. Like more Than 20 years

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:37:53pm

re: #255 EPR-radar

But they look cool.

Star Wars requires the same level of suspension of disbelief as any other fantasy story. If something like the force actually existed, the killer moves in force duels would be things like ‘collapse lung’, ‘blood clot in the foes brain’ and ‘testicular torsion’, instead of lightsaber moves and stupidly tossing the scenery at each other.

Or as I read in a book on the Psi Corps from Bab5, make the other guy piss his pants.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:38:01pm

Anybody else using TweetDeck on a Mac and finding that’s it’s crashing all the time lately?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:39:46pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaaaaa

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaaaaa

*cough, cough*

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:39:52pm

re: #249 whitebeach

That too. The whole notion of light sabers indicates a colossal disdain for the viewer’s intelligence.

It’s the opposite of indiana Jones against the guy with the whip

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Decatur Deb  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:41:05pm

re: #244 EPR-radar

Blue vs. Red seems to be a reasonable guess, although just one Senator is hardly enough to turn AL blue.

Thinking it’s still deep crimson, but shot through with a bit of purple.

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BeachDem  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:41:32pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yeah Republican voters embraced Moore.

And I’ll go with Charlie Pierce’s final word on the story:

I choose to believe that Selma put Doug Jones over the top because I believe that the country owes that particular place a debt that it only has begun to repay, a debt on which it reneged for decades. His entire campaign was based on getting repayment of that debt back on schedule. Indeed, his entire public career has been dedicated to that. He’s smart enough to recognize what a small miracle his victory actually was for the disenfranchised people on whose behalf he fought and won, and decent enough not to turn his back on them.

esquire.com

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The Major  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:41:40pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:43:20pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yeah Republican voters embraced Moore.

certainly in the primary

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:43:46pm

re: #252 William Lewis

There was a blog post where a guy suggested what he called “Machete Order” for watching the movies. That is.

IV A New Hope
V Empire Strikes Back
II The Clone Wars
III Revenge of the Sith
VI Return of the Jedi

With 1 left out, as a way of dealing with some of those structural issues. It’s especially useful for introducing someone to the series.

Just as an aside, best to worst: V, Rogue One, IV, VI, VII, III, II ……………………………… I

I took a sci-fi class in college. Lots of great books . Herbert Asimov leguin Lewis Heinlein et al

Star wars was an agreed upon meh. The movie (1) had just come out so we all went to see it. I never saw any of the others

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TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:43:53pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

I actually kind of liked Rogue One just because it was self contained and bleak as fuck, the Nihilist Arby’s of Star Wars films.

It was basically The Dirty Dozen or Saving Private Ryan in space; it’s a straight-up war movie and I loved it.

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:44:46pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

“This is the journalist process CNN doesn’t go through,” Cernovich said on Periscope on Tuesday. “CNN, they go ‘oh shit, Don Jr. got an email about Wikileaks before anybody else? Boom boom boom front page news.’ But me, I go oh, wait, hold on a minute, let’s chill.”

How about chilling with a little criminal conspiracy?

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retired cynic  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:46:26pm

John Scalzi has a photo of his cat Sugar impeding the progress on his latest book. My cat assumes the same position, with the same result. No photo, because Pita is photogenic, but I am not.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:47:14pm

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

certainly in the primary

And in the GE.

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The Major  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:47:22pm

re: #147 scottslemmons

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nines09  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:49:22pm

Blaming Bannon? He lost Roy? Fuck. Steve got his own problems.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:50:45pm

re: #271 nines09

Blaming Bannon? He lost Roy? Fuck. Steve got his own problems.

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I can’t wait to see what miserable people he finds next.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:52:54pm

re: #266 TedStriker

It was basically The Dirty Dozen or Saving Private Ryan in space; it’s a straight-up war movie and I loved it.

The highly individualized helmets of the X-wing pilots is the tell.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:52:55pm
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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:53:18pm

re: #256 dangerman

Duh I shoulda realized. 1010 on the ones 880 ,on the eights
Been a while. Like more Than 20 years

But if you give 1010 22 minutes, they’ll give you the world! :)

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:54:21pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaaaaa

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaaaaa

*cough, cough*

‘Lispy McSteroids.’ Brilliant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:55:41pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

Upding for “lispy Mcsteroids”

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 2:58:23pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

“Whoever did this — I don’t know if it was a deep state operation, a Soros thing, or if it was just a prankster,” Cernovich said on Periscope, “but somebody’s in a lot of trouble for forging documents.”

Yeah. You, asshole.

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stpaulbear  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:00:42pm

re: #196 Kragar

A few minutes ago I called my rep (McCollum) and senators (Franken and Klobuchar) and told them to do whatever they have to do - procedural moves, dirty tricks, anything - to make sure that the hideous tax bill doesn’t get passed. The republicans are completely able to mess up it’s passage on their own, but we need to do everything we can to help them fuck up irreparably. This really needs to fail. I hope that republican DC offices are completely swarmed with protesters.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:01:55pm

re: #275 makeitstop

But if you give 1010 22 minutes, they’ll give you the world! :)

I remember that!

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:03:42pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

Upding for “lispy Mcsteroids”

I believe that’s lispy mcsteroids-face

And with that I’m off to concoct some dinner for Mrs dm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:03:45pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

Thinking it’s still deep crimson, but shot through with a bit of purple.

officially called “Monsignor Purple” on the color charts…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:12:47pm

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:13:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:14:46pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:15:30pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

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Surprised he hasn’t been spotted trying to climb out of a window during one of these bathroom breaks.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:16:32pm

re: #232 Belafon

Perez seems to be doing pretty well. I think we can stick with him.

I think Whitebeach has missed some of Perez’s comments on his strategies now that he is in charge. He is planning to try his best to run a 50 State strategy. He just needs to reconfigure the funding as it was set up to push the top ticket too much. He even mentioned Nebraska as a target which I had posted a few weeks ago in a comment to anymouse.

He has to also gather the party back together from some of the Sanders damage. He’s trying to work with him, and I think he is trying some tough love in doing it so he can get some of Bernie’s backers to stay with the party.

He’s got a tough job.

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EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:16:39pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

The thought of Senate Republicans on the intel committee obliged to spend many hours on damage control from Don Jr’s testimony (which is surely equal parts casual criminality and bovine stupidity) fills me with holiday cheer.

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gocart mozart  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:17:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:18:13pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

I think Whitebeach has missed some of Perez’s comments on his strategies now that he is in charge. He is planning to try his best to run a 50 State strategy. He just needs to reconfigure the funding as it was set up to push the top ticket too much. He even mentioned Nebraska as a target which I had posted a few weeks ago in a comment to anymouse.

He has to also gather the party back together from some of the Sanders damage. He’s trying to work with him, and I think he is trying some tough love in doing it so he can get some of Bernie’s backers to stay with the party.

He’s got a tough job.

I really like Perez. In fact, had HRC won, I would have loved to seen her pick him for AG. He’s not a politician but he’s an effective administrator and someone who cares about all Americans.

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Jay C  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:18:24pm

re: #237 makeitstop

They changed that - now it’s traffic on the ones.

CBS 880 still does ‘Traffic and Weather Together’ on the eights, though. If you time it right you can get two traffic reports every ten minutes, mostly for some other part of the city that you’re not driving in.

Three, actually, if you’re in NY and get Bloomberg Radio ( who do their traffic reports on the “5s”) - but, as you note, mainly for roads you aren’t on….

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ipsos  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:18:25pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:18:31pm

re: #290 gocart mozart

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Not very smart are ya Mike and Chucky?

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:20:33pm

re: #244 EPR-radar

Blue vs. Red seems to be a reasonable guess, although just one Senator is hardly enough to turn AL blue.

Yeah…but the Blue Disease is now in the state and it might spread to unsuspecting moderates and maybe even bring down some wingnuts. It can be catching. At one time it was all over this country and many people had it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:22:08pm

I don’t know what Jones’ election means long run but what it does do is give people hope.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:25:25pm

re: #249 whitebeach

That too. The whole notion of light sabers indicates a colossal disdain for the viewer’s intelligence.

Hello…it’s fantasy! You are supposed to suspend belief.

Plus, light sabers look good on film…kinda like tracer bullets in war movies.

And it is a fantasy movie. A cartoon using actual humans.

And no, I’ve never been a big fan because I’m more a dystopian comedy, gripping reality type.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:26:54pm
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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:27:12pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:28:42pm

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

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Yet this is the man the Bros tell us is our party’s actual leader. And I apologize not to Bernie here because while it does appear he did endorse Jones, his PAC, Our Revolution notably did not. Screw Bernie. Really. I hope if he runs in 2020, he gets attacked for crap like this.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:29:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:30:03pm

RTed by Al also and why Jones deserves tons of props. And I’m also reminded Sanders smugly dismissing the Southern predominately African-American states HRC beat him big in as “Republican anyhow”.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:30:50pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

April was being polite in that clip but her tweet about Princess Omarosa’s firing was hilarious.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:30:53pm

re: #301 Scottish Dragon

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God’s spoken. You lost dipshit. God also spoke when you got removed from your job twice. Maybe he doesn’t like you or think you’re so special.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:31:16pm

re: #290 gocart mozart

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LOL, and Mike specifically invoked the name of Conyers in one of his deleted posts.

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Nyet  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:32:52pm

Highlighting his (specific) Holocaust denial rather than (general) white supremacism is the right strategy.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:34:27pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:36:21pm

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

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*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAaaaaaaa

*cough, cough*

heh…had to dig way back for this P’shop that seems even more fitting for Chuckles today.

So, I make a few mistakes…so what…all the great ones do.
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meteor  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:36:55pm

re: #53 coin operated

Stephanie Miller
Mike Malloy

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austin_blue  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:39:02pm

re: #260 dangerman

It’s the opposite of indiana Jones against the guy with the whip

He was supposed to fight him with the bullwhip in the original script, but Ford was sick as a dog. Spielberg asked him what he was up for. Ford said, “Why can’t I just shoot the son-of-a-bitch?”

It worked out very well.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:39:25pm

Makeitstop - you familiar with Jim the Hound Marshall?

Really interesting interview here

newyorksocialdiary.com

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:40:49pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:40:54pm

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

You’ve got to be kidding!! Arghhhh!! I try not to dislike Senator Sanders but he keeps being annoying.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:41:08pm

re: #308 ObserverArt

heh…had to dig way back for this P’shop that seems even more fitting for Chuckles today.

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cmon, please - we didnt even get out of the first thread

re: #12 dangerman

as a personal aside, .

i’d like to vote that no one ever posts actual pictures of the furby.
every single one creeps me out

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:41:49pm

re: #246 allegro

I was just hearing on CNN about how Jones was such a repulsive candidate that republicans couldn’t stand. Uhhh, hello? They voted for him in the primary. That’s why he was the GOP candidate. Moore IS the GOP. Trump IS the GOP. Bannon IS the GOP.

I see no mystery here.

The only mystery is how Jones crept into your paragraph. Those tricksy Democrats.

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Scout  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:43:35pm

re: #222 sagehen

All hail the glow cloud.

Sorry, I hail from Desert Bluffs.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:47:18pm

re: #314 dangerman

cmon, please - we didnt even get out of the first thread

Heh…guerilla art warfare cannot be stopped and isn’t always pretty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:47:25pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:48:42pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That isn’t even up on ESPN yet.

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dangerman  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:51:00pm

re: #317 ObserverArt

Heh…guerilla art warfare cannot be stopped and isn’t always pretty.

ok ok, i’ll deal….

i’ll print out #18, tape it to my screen and just keep moving it around as necessary

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:52:13pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:54:18pm
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The Major  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:54:33pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

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fern01  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:57:11pm

re: #59 JordanRules

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As ever - there are different rules for the GOP

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ipsos  Dec 13, 2017 • 3:57:12pm

re: #322 Dr. Matt

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Working from memory here, isn’t National Parks Police also involved in patrolling the WH grounds and building? Maybe they did the deed.

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austin_blue  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:00:04pm

re: #325 ipsos

Working from memory here, isn’t National Parks Police also involved in patrolling the WH grounds and building? Maybe they did the deed.

Probably Fredo and Fredo.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:01:20pm

re: #325 ipsos

Working from memory here, isn’t National Parks Police also involved in patrolling the WH grounds and building? Maybe they did the deed.

Between security cameras, cell phones, and news cameras somebody has this captured on video.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:03:45pm

re: #297 ObserverArt

Hello…it’s fantasy! You are supposed to suspend belief.

Plus, light sabers look good on film…kinda like tracer bullets in war movies.

Suspending disbelief (which is what I think you mean) is fine up to a point. After that it’s like the bungee jumping cord that snaps and drops you onto the rocks at the bottom of the gorge.

As for light sabers, I don’t think they look good on film. I think they look ridiculous. I’d as soon see the good guys and bad guys squaring off in a hula-hoop duel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:05:12pm

re: #325 ipsos

Working from memory here, isn’t National Parks Police also involved in patrolling the WH grounds and building? Maybe they did the deed.

maybe it was the yam’s private security force/bodyguards

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:06:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:08:07pm

LOL!

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:10:09pm

re: #315 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

The only mystery is how Jones crept into your paragraph. Those tricksy Democrats.

OMG! Way too late now to correct. I’m going to hell.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:11:02pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!

Ok guys, strangest election I’ve ever seen. Roy Moore had leads of 12 and 8 points wiped out almost instantly. Huge chucks of uncontested votes coming in for Jones as he outvoted Moore by 70,000 votes in the final 35%. Very sketchy action in a red state.

Somebody lend that poor fool a map.

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:12:38pm

re: #333 Decatur Deb

Somebody lend that poor fool a map.

Not to mention the NYT number crunches for the last two or three hours before the result.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:14:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:15:33pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!

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It’s what happens when your ideology and party shit on population centers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:16:42pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:17:42pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well there it is. It is obvious she resigned.

Right????

And all the other stuff is just more fake news.

Abuser/User only room for a Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:18:20pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tone deaf af.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:18:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:22:17pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:22:27pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:23:44pm

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:24:56pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:25:19pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:26:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:27:58pm

re: #303 Patricia Kayden

ICYMI this was the best thing I’ve seen in so long.

Petty feels good

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austin_blue  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:29:05pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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{{{{FBW & MsFBW}}}}

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:30:31pm

heh

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:32:18pm

Monmouth poll: Trump approval rating hits record-low 32 percent

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:34:24pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:35:20pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:36:51pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boy do I hope her mentions are filled with cuss words and bile. What a nerve!! She needs to shut the hell up. It’s because of people like her that we have Trump destroying civil rights here and embarrassing this country abroad.

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John Carter  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:38:01pm

re: #236 whitebeach

Nah. The fundamental problem with SW is that they are so-so car-chase movies set in space, with elements of bad pirate and war movies thrown in. Issues of character development are about as relevant as they would be in a white-hat/black-hat Western.

Westerns are typically not epics that take place over 9 episodes.

The prequels were fundamentally a Darth Vader origin story.

I agree the special effects, the sword fighting, the weird aliens and the spaceships are the main attraction but would it kill them to string a decent story together?

Anyway, I don’t think so because a lot of people complain about how they don’t like the movies and just go out of some sort of nostalgic obligation.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:38:53pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d love to see the video of her tripping the alarm and being escorted out of the White House. If anyone deserves to be humiliated for supporting a racist President, it would be Ms. Omarosa. Perhaps this will be the end of her 15 minutes of fame.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:39:07pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White
Private isn’t working on my new iPhone.

{{{ 😞 💔 }}}

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:39:20pm

re: #353 Patricia Kayden

Boy do I hope her mentions are filled with cuss words and bile. What a nerve!! She needs to shut the hell up. It’s because of people like her that we have Trump destroying civil rights here and embarrassing this country abroad.

I think she is trying to post her comments to get back on people’s good side. She wants everyone to forget 2016.

Trouble is, it isn’t going to happen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:39:38pm

There’s a Trump tweet for everything, even when it’s about Trump rather than from Trump.

You may have been correct, Senator Graham:

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:40:04pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OMG

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Archangelus  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:40:36pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:41:00pm

I really can’t say I’m surprised at all that the Bernie crowd is trying to take credit for last night, when we all know they’d have been quick to blame “the establishment” had Jones lost.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:41:09pm
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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:41:15pm

re: #350 FormerDirtDart

Monmouth poll: Trump approval rating hits record-low 32 percent[Embedded content]

It’s kind of like a reverse of Sam Shepard as Chuck Yeager trying to break the sound barrier in The Right Stuff. Can he get below 27% without everything falling apart?

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Archangelus  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:42:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:43:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:43:39pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

I think Whitebeach has missed some of Perez’s comments on his strategies now that he is in charge. He is planning to try his best to run a 50 State strategy. He just needs to reconfigure the funding as it was set up to push the top ticket too much. He even mentioned Nebraska as a target which I had posted a few weeks ago in a comment to anymouse.

Yup. Mr. Perez is working with our new state party leader Jane Kleeb (who was a Sanders supporter) and working to get Jane Reybould elected over Sen. Deb Fischer.

All the alleged advantages that Sen. Fischer would have in an election are taken away from her. Jane Reybould is a woman, a farmer, lifelong Nebraska resident, &c. All the fluff of a campaign would be taken away and it then comes down to simply issues.

Mrs. Reybould is looking to run a campaign similar to Senator-elect Doug Jones (!-! Congrats Alabama), focusing on so-called “kitchen table issues.”

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:44:24pm

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹

There’s a Trump tweet for everything, even when it’s about Trump rather than from Trump.

You may have been correct, Senator Graham:

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Any tweets from Lindsey where he said he was going to go along with Trump and end up destroying himself as well?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:44:36pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:44:56pm

If you haven’t yet, this is a must read.

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Archangelus  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:45:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:46:02pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:46:12pm
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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:47:07pm

re: #311 Stanley Sea

Makeitstop - you familiar with Jim the Hound Marshall?

Really interesting interview here

newyorksocialdiary.com

Can’t say as I am! I don’t really listen to a lot of radio.

But I started reading the interview - pretty cool. There are a lot of points of history where I might have been in the same neighborhood as him at the very least. And his house looks pretty amazing.

Also - rockablly. One of my secret delights. Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:47:13pm
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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:48:06pm

re: #357 ObserverArt

I think she is trying to post her comments to get back on people’s good side. She wants everyone to forget 2016.

Trouble is, it isn’t going to happen.

When we can forget the Trump nightmare we can forget her role in it. Long time, lady. Real long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:48:21pm

what a sneak!

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A Mom Anon  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:48:31pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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Skip Intro  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:51:03pm

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹

There’s a Trump tweet for everything, even when it’s about Trump rather than from Trump.

You may have been correct, Senator Graham:

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That was before trump bought him off with a round of golf.

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Archangelus  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:51:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:52:58pm

re: #366 Anymouse 🌹

Jane Reybould is selecting Nebraska residents throughout the state to literally talk to them at their kitchen tables about the issues that matter to them most.

(I’d be happy to have her at my house.)

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cat-tikvah  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:53:03pm

re: #353 Patricia Kayden

Well deserved comment from her Twitter feed:

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:53:47pm

re: #342 FormerDirtDart

Omarosa may be able to continue her grifting on cable news. She’s annoying enough to be loved by the talking heads on Fox News.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:54:25pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:55:19pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:55:51pm

re: #373 makeitstop

Can’t say as I am! I don’t really listen to a lot of radio.

But I started reading the interview - pretty cool. There are a lot of points of history where I might have been in the same neighborhood as him at the very least. And his house looks pretty amazing.

Also - rockablly. One of my secret delights. Thanks!

So many good quotes.

In 1976 John Lydon was an anarchist and now two of the four Sex Pistols live in Malibu and endorse Trump! Taxes are high in Malibu!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:56:24pm

re: #381 cat-tikvah

That’s what I’m talking about! LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 4:57:53pm

re: #384 Ace Rothstein

AAAAAA! My eyes! That’s worse than optician eye drops! That should always be behind the hide bar.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:00:45pm

re: #350 FormerDirtDart

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There’s no way that Republicans aren’t aware of these awful polls for their man in the White House. Do they really believe that this is helpful going into an election year? Passing an unpopular tax cut for the wealthy isn’t going to help their prospects next year either.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:00:52pm
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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:01:52pm

My too talented children… with the chilly nights of late, Storm has discovered the joys of burrowing under the bed covers with Buddy and me. Such fun, he took it another step to burrow under the sofa pillows and afghan, dump them on the floor, and burrow under his little bed “mattress”.

Today he learned to open the dresser drawers to burrow under my clothes. Then he went over the back of the drawer and got stuck behind it. Got him out, turned my back, and he did it again. My dresser is now protected with bungie cords. The little shit.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:02:28pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:02:40pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:03:07pm

Trump has looked and sounded terrible the last few days.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:03:56pm

re: #388 Patricia Kayden

There’s no way that Republicans aren’t aware of these awful polls for their man in the White House. Do they really believe that this is helpful going into an election year? Passing an unpopular tax cut for the wealthy isn’t going to help their prospects next year either.

They’ll likely have all their vote rigging and suppression tactics in place then.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:04:47pm

Evening Lizardim. Reading through the topic of today’s thread, I couldn’t help but think that the Rage Furby got Dan Rathered… but he is certainly no Dan Rather. How go things among the lizardfolk today?

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whitebeach  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:04:49pm

re: #369 Stanley Sea

If you haven’t yet, this is a must read.

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It is that.

I confess I read it mainly because I find her so beautiful. Just my type, or at least my type back when 223-pound penguins roamed the earth and I was young. I figured I couldn’t hate Weinstein much more than I already do.

I was wrong. If I could, I would hitch him to a clayfield plow and give him nothing but ditch water and deer corn to live out the rest of his rotten life.

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Targetpractice  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:06:06pm

re: #388 Patricia Kayden

There’s no way that Republicans aren’t aware of these awful polls for their man in the White House. Do they really believe that this is helpful going into an election year? Passing an unpopular tax cut for the wealthy isn’t going to help their prospects next year either.

The view of the leadership is so long as they get Wealthcare passed, next year will take care of itself. Enough people will see a “cut” in their taxes next year to fool them until November. And when the cornholing starts to happen in 2020, they just blame the Democrats and promise more “cuts.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:08:06pm

re: #395 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. Reading through the topic of today’s thread, I couldn’t help but think that the Rage Furby got Dan Rathered… but he is certainly no Dan Rather. How go things among the lizardfolk today?

Dan Rather didn’t slander anyone.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:08:52pm

re: #389 Stanley Sea

I’m not sure how I feel about that.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:09:28pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

{{bfbw}}

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:09:49pm

re: #393 Ace Rothstein

Trump has looked and sounded terrible the last few days.

Good…?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:09:53pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

So many good quotes.

Wow, I was never a huge SP fan. Honestly, i think it’s in part because people like Lydon think supporting Trump is somehow “edgy” and “rebellious.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:10:55pm

re: #398 Anymouse 🌹

Dan Rather didn’t slander anyone.

He also wasn’t a stalker.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:12:10pm

re: #399 MsJ

Me either. Sigh. If this introspection is sincere and he changes his behavior and calls it out when he sees it, then it’s a start. At least he called himself out for being an asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:12:41pm

The official custodian in charge of the keys to one of the most sacred sites in Christianity will not welcome Vice President Pence when he visits the Old City of Jerusalem this month.

“It has come to our attention that Vice President Pence intends to make an official visit to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, and asked me to receive him officially,” Adeeb Joudeh, who is responsible for the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, wrote in a letter on Wednesday, according to Israel’s Channel 2 News.

“I absolutely refuse to officially welcome the American Vice President Mr. Mike Pence at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher and I will not be physically in church during his visit,” he continued.

“This is an expression of my condemnation of President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.”

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:13:19pm

re: #401 MsJ

Good…?

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:14:05pm

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They pander to Evangelicals’ idea of Israel that they I don’t think realized or gave a fuck that Christians live in Jerusalem too and had a big problem with their move.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:14:06pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!

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So many insane replies to that.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:14:11pm

OK, Google’s search algorithms are all screwy.
I was looking for a certain image of a girl greeting a POW, and google fed me hordes of images of Native Americans and native themed greeting cards. And, girl running to POW got me hordes of pink running shoes, and Native Americans
Eventually I found what I was looking for
Image: 7501b2b0448690cc2b26c983e1643ceb—s-air-force.jpg

Which I was searching for because I saw this, and it reminded me of it.
Image: tumblr_p0w7uov2id1tg93zvo1_540.jpg

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:14:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:15:12pm

re: #404 A Mom Anon

Me either. Sigh. If this introspection is sincere and he changes his behavior and calls it out when he sees it, then it’s a start. At least he called himself out for being an asshole.

Calling yourself out for a fundamental wrong is the hardest part. Moreover, he opens himself up to lawsuits with his published admission. He opens himself up to taking his public lumps, and maybe destroying anything left of a career he has. He did that willingly.

That is far more than Weinstein, Moore, or Trump has ever done. They will not admit they’ve done anything wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:15:49pm

re: #410 Ace Rothstein

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Coming from someone who was elected in a state that both Obama and HRC won. STFU Cory and worry about your own re-election. Your party didn’t do a damn thing to get Jones elected. He has no obligation at all to help your sorry sack of a shit party.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:16:28pm

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I absolutely refuse to officially welcome the American Vice President Mr. Mike Pence at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher and I will not be physically in church during his visit,”

If you’re going to be read out from the altar, might as well go for a really bigly altar.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:17:07pm

re: #410 Ace Rothstein

Doug Jones, maybe: “LOLOLOL”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:18:16pm

re: #414 Anymouse 🌹

Doug Jones, maybe: “LOLOLOL”

If they weren’t up for re-election at the same time, I’d love to see Jones campaign for Gardner’s opponent.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:18:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:20:00pm

re: #416 FormerDirtDart

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tweet for every occasion:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:21:02pm

re: #399 MsJ

I’m not sure how I feel about that.

I’m with you. He knew he was doing wrong when he did it in most of his admitted “failings” so he can’t claim some new revelation. The overall tone screams martyr, IMO. No. Can’t give him that when he’s left such a trail of hurt by being an asshole.

We should now give him a cookie for rising to the level of a decent human being?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:22:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:26:12pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:26:20pm
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A Mom Anon  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:27:05pm

re: #418 allegro

No cookies. And the damage can’t be undone. What can happen is he can go forward and do better. He can call out crap from other guys. No cookies, no trophies.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:27:36pm

re: #418 allegro

I’m with you. He knew he was doing wrong when he did it in most of his admitted “failings” so he can’t claim some new revelation. The overall tone screams martyr, IMO. No. Can’t give him that when he’s left such a trail of hurt by being an asshole.

We should now give him a cookie for rising to the level of a decent human being?

Only if it’s non GMO, and not supersized. /

I’m not even sure about decent. Look me up in a year or two. Then we can decide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:27:43pm

hey Observer Art!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:27:58pm

re: #420 Anymouse 🌹

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Nina Turner too. She was talking about how proud she was of her sisters neglecting to mention her PAC never endorsed Jones.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:29:13pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Observer Art!

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Portman is from the Romney wing of screwing you over while pretending to be above partisanship.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:30:29pm

re: #418 allegro

I’m with you. He knew he was doing wrong when he did it in most of his admitted “failings” so he can’t claim some new revelation. The overall tone screams martyr, IMO. No. Can’t give him that when he’s left such a trail of hurt by being an asshole.

We should now give him a cookie for rising to the level of a decent human being?

I don’t have that makeup, but know plenty of guys that do. He’s cocky and coming to terms with something he knows may be coming. This is his manly way of doing it, so do not expect it to be pretty. He’s been a blockhead for too long to understand anything subtle, so this is what you get. I don’t think he is asking for a cookie. This is his heavy-handed way of asking for forgiveness. That is real tough to do for someone that has been a control freak for his whole life.

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Archangelus  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:30:32pm

re: #410 Ace Rothstein

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:31:00pm

jeebus.

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Targetpractice  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:31:47pm

So I see McCain is back in the hospital due to “complications” from cancer treatment. What are the odds that he once again puts his health at risk just to vote for Wealthcare? I’m guessing better than even.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:31:51pm

re: #418 allegro

I’m with you. He knew he was doing wrong when he did it in most of his admitted “failings” so he can’t claim some new revelation. The overall tone screams martyr, IMO. No. Can’t give him that when he’s left such a trail of hurt by being an asshole.

We should now give him a cookie for rising to the level of a decent human being?

He doesn’t ask for forgiveness in the letter. He accepts responsibility and vows to do better.

Does he get a cookie? No, he’s probably going to get one or more lawsuits.

The only thing I would give him a cookie for is admitting he was wrong and saying he intends to do better (trust but verify applies). How many other powerful and unknown men will never admit they were wrong?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:32:15pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus.

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Fuck. I mean, if he was such a sleazeball, I don’t like sleazeballs at all, but suicide is still not something I’d wish on anyone. Nobody deserves to suffer that level of internal depression.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:32:46pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus.

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Is this the guy who sang the jesus song?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:33:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:33:24pm

re: #432 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fuck. I mean, if he was such a sleazeball, I don’t like sleazeballs at all, but suicide is still not something I’d wish on anyone. Nobody deserves to suffer that level of internal depression.

his presser at his church the other day was beyond weird

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:33:32pm

re: #433 Stanley Sea

Is this the guy who sang the jesus song?

yes

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:34:00pm

re: #420 Anymouse 🌹

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Susan Sarandon has always been an elitist prick. She can go right off and fuck herself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:34:31pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus.

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Weren’t Kentucky Republicans defending him over the week for an alleged witch hunt?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:34:48pm

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes

He fucked his family doing this.

Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:34:51pm

re: #438 Anymouse 🌹

Weren’t Kentucky Republicans defending him over the week for an alleged witch hunt?

no

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:34:52pm

re: #434 FormerDirtDart

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Dude. When the guy who ran the Stiff Cardboard Cutout for President campaign is ripping you a new one…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:37:11pm

re: #437 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Susan Sarandon has always been an elitist prick. She can go right off and fuck herself.

Coastal Elites!!!

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Skip Intro  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:37:23pm

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

I imagine when all the facts come out about his behavior his suicide will make a lot more sense.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:38:11pm

re: #434 FormerDirtDart

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I hear him but Moore still nearly won.

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allegro  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:38:41pm

re: #422 A Mom Anon

No cookies. And the damage can’t be undone. What can happen is he can go forward and do better. He can call out crap from other guys. No cookies, no trophies.

I hope he does. I think what makes the warning light go off in my head about it is the public nature of it, like a Jimmy Swaggart weeping “I have sinned!” for the cameras so he can continue the grift all shiny clean and forgiven. Feels about as sincere.

Just not feeling that forgiving. But then I don’t have to be. His issue is with the women he has damaged. They are the ones he should be talking to.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:38:51pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Observer Art!

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Grrrrrrrrrrr.

I am really sick of Robby.

Edit to add: Sleuth, I am sure you know that David Pepper is the recent new head of the Ohio Democratic Party.

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:39:57pm

re: #432 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fuck. I mean, if he was such a sleazeball, I don’t like sleazeballs at all, but suicide is still not something I’d wish on anyone. Nobody deserves to suffer that level of internal depression.

You didn’t wish it. He took the easy way out.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:40:09pm
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EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:40:25pm

re: #410 Ace Rothstein

Fuck that noise with rusty power tools. Note how nobody in the center or right ever suggested that Scott Brown vote like a Democrat because he was representing MA.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:41:01pm

re: #418 allegro

I’m with you. He knew he was doing wrong when he did it in most of his admitted “failings” so he can’t claim some new revelation. The overall tone screams martyr, IMO. No. Can’t give him that when he’s left such a trail of hurt by being an asshole.

We should now give him a cookie for rising to the level of a decent human being?

I’m astonished that so many guys seem to think that so much stuff that I’d have thought was obviously Bad Behavior was okay.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:41:43pm

re: #449 EPR-radar

Fuck that noise with rusty power tools. Note how nobody in the center or right ever suggested that Scott Brown vote like a Democrat because he was representing MA.

Exactly but they make up different rules as they go, see the 2016 USSC hold up.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:41:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:42:21pm

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m astonished that so many guys seem to think that so much stuff that I’d have thought was obviously Bad Behavior was okay.

Yeah makes me wonder about how these guys were raised and taught.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:42:24pm

For example…

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:43:04pm

Disgusting display, just reported on by Chris Hayes.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:43:50pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:44:19pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus.

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Damn. Wasn’t his mess just revealed the other day?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:44:56pm

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

no

You are correct. I went looking and found this:

Kentucky political parties united in call for Dan Johnson to resign

In the article are the statements from both the Democratic and Republican Parties in Kentucky calling on him to resign.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:45:48pm

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m astonished that so many guys seem to think that so much stuff that I’d have thought was obviously Bad Behavior was okay.

They are always in some sort of power. Some sort of glory it seems.

Yes, I’m still processing. Salma’s essay really shook me.

I’m sure you are/have been in a power position, but it appears your wires are wired correctly.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:47:02pm

re: #454 Charles Johnson

For example…

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MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:47:07pm

Charles, my new iPhone X isn’t playing nice with LGF. The private messages don’t work (no pop-up when touching the lock) and I always have to go into Spy at comment 350 or so. Bunch of little things. FYI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:47:13pm

re: #457 ObserverArt

Damn. Wasn’t his mess just revealed the other day?

it was known, but really got a lot more press in recent days

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EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:47:36pm

re: #451 HappyWarrior

Exactly but they make up different rules as they go, see the 2016 USSC hold up.

The Democrats must do a tit-for-tat retaliation vs. the Republicans for the Garland nomination at the first available opportunity. To do otherwise is to voluntarily be cowards.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:49:37pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

So many good quotes.

This bit about The Ramones is

so

dead on.

It seems like any idiot can do it. I can take my guitar out of the basement and hand it to you and in half an hour you can play Louie Louie but you have to have something else for it to be great. Have you ever met the Ramones? Joey was a fairly smart guy with a lot of problems. He had to put his coffee cup down a 150 times—and Dee Dee, he was literally like the idiot savant. I had the manuscript of his first book and literally he used to like, type letters backwards—it’s actually a pretty good book. But to be like that, to be hopeless and retarded and still make something really great out of it … part of it is the chemistry, the time, the place … like my favorite picture of them on the subway, Johnny’s got his guitar in a paper shopping bag! But it was real. He could afford a guitar but he couldn’t afford a case with it. The case was ten dollars extra. Who had ten dollars?

The first show I played with the Ramones was in a club with a raised dance floor, and when Joey came in he took the first step up 5 times before he stepped up. I thought he was just too high to step up. I learned later it was pretty extreme OCD.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:49:59pm
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Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:50:16pm

re: #410 Ace Rothstein

Trump lost the popular vote. When is he going to act like a Democrat?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:51:06pm

Train hits semi-truck in Lakeland, FL
Mid-week customer numbers at eating establishments along I-4 corridor spike

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:52:22pm

re: #463 EPR-radar

The Democrats must do a tit-for-tat retaliation vs. the Republicans for the Garland nomination at the first available opportunity. To do otherwise is to voluntarily be cowards.

Or, pass a law that prevents such a travesty from happening again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:52:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:53:51pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:56:00pm

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:58:00pm
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EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:58:39pm

re: #468 Anymouse 🌹

Or, pass a law that prevents such a travesty from happening again.

That can’t be done with just a law. A current Congress cannot legally bind the actions of a future Congress.

A Constitutional amendment would get the job done, but if we start amending the Constitution to deal with every possible Republican dereliction of duty, it would end up being 10,000 pages long and not even close to complete.

Good old-fashioned retaliation is the best response.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:58:54pm

re: #471 FormerDirtDart

heh

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Hahahahaaa. Probably shouldn’t laugh…but.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:59:11pm

re: #471 FormerDirtDart

heh

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Is that Mel Gibson?

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:59:23pm

re: #475 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that Mel Gibson?

Yes.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:59:26pm

Not celebrating Kentucky State Rep. Dan Johnson’s suicide. I wanted him alive to face legal consequences if true the accusation of raping a 17 year old girl. He got off easy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 5:59:46pm

re: #476 Ace Rothstein

Yes.

Okay. So they’re not too far off then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:00:30pm
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TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:01:08pm

re: #477 DodgerFan1988

Not celebrating Kentucky State Rep. Dan Johnson’s suicide. I wanted him alive to face legal consequences if true the accusation of raping a 17 year old girl. He got off easy.

Johnson ended up being a fucking coward, to no one’s surprise.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:01:17pm

re: #478 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay. So they’re not too far off then.

GIVE ME BACK MY SON!!!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:01:52pm

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The party of personal responsibility strikes again!

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:02:38pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m so sorry for your loss.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:03:30pm

re: #474 ObserverArt

Hahahahaaa. Probably shouldn’t laugh…but.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:03:51pm

re: #480 TedStriker

Johnson ended up being a fucking coward, to no one’s surprise.

I don’t think of suicide as necessarily cowardice. In Rep. Johnson’s case it does appear he was trying to avoid the consequences of the allegations though.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:03:59pm

Okay, their account must be hacked.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:05:29pm

OMFG, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

488
Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:06:03pm

re: #481 Ace Rothstein

GIVE ME BACK MY SON!!!

Scared the cat with my whoop

489
Charles Johnson  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:06:11pm
490
TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:06:30pm

re: #485 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t think of suicide as necessarily cowardice. In Rep. Johnson’s case it does appear he was trying to avoid the consequences of the allegations though.

In this case, I definitely consider it to be an act of cowardice and shame, because it denies Johnson’s victim(s) their day in court to get their measure of justice.

491
VegasGolfer  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:06:33pm

re: #480 TedStriker

Johnson ended up being a fucking coward, to no one’s surprise.

Their side is a bunch of cowards. I have no sympathy for whatever happens to them with their agenda of trying to screw everybody except their 1% donors. I would not piss on them if they were on fire.

492
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:07:31pm
493
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:07:53pm

re: #489 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

To be fair, Charles, this has been their end goal all along. Remember, America was last great when only landed white people could vote.

494
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:08:25pm
495
Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:08:45pm

re: #481 Ace Rothstein

Sigh, I haven’t listened to Rome in years.

I told you I’m sure, I was a caller in the 90’s when he was at the firehose 690.

Gator Basketball.

496
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:08:51pm

re: #489 Charles Johnson

497
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:09:54pm
498
EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:11:21pm

re: #496 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The #1 priority for the AL state legislature will almost certainly be further measures aimed at suppressing the votes of Democrats. Republicans have absolute contempt for democracy.

499
TedStriker  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:11:40pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

From your lips to *your deity here*’s ears, Ted…

500
Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:11:43pm

re: #495 Stanley Sea

Sigh, I haven’t listened to Rome in years.

I told you I’m sure, I was a caller in the 90’s when he was at the firehose 690.

Gator Basketball.

You’re not missing much. I tuned into the Smack Off back in June (?), and haven’t listened since. He lost his fastball at least a decade ago.

501
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:11:47pm

re: #496 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

Which was of course why O’Keefe’s ACORN scammed happened. Jim Crow by another name. What’s more is they have a lot of sympathetic ears on the judiciary including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

502
Ace Rothstein  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:12:40pm

Sorry for this, but this account has me in tears.

503
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:13:04pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

504
mmmirele  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:13:44pm

re: #434 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Thankfully we don’t have to have this discussion anymore.
505
Jebediah, RBG  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:14:38pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

aJHABRW4hd44stHtaZP8LTR/fudCowOQeU16jScC5BgK5TtQgHRcMUIvLI3++KrR9YqRrhiiKd261CRXAUg5JBY8AtLaSuofkE1iyhS+wV+fgHguXEsORJ/0krEWdSubELHLpdXpGNLbK0CHe0KAkDi60HR8zIkM

506
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:15:11pm

re: #503 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

But likewise not every Democratic candidate will be running in Alabama.

507
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:17:04pm

re: #486 Ace Rothstein

Okay, their account is hacked.

[Embedded content]

Parody account, and it’s great.

508
FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:18:14pm

OK, this got a solid chuckle out of me

509
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:18:50pm
510
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:18:54pm

re: #506 HappyWarrior

But likewise not every Democratic candidate will be running in Alabama.

And every Republican who supported either Moore or Trump can have that millstone hung around their campaigns.

511
GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:19:28pm

512
Skip Intro  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:20:31pm
513
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:21:04pm

re: #511 GlutenFreeJesus

yep, that’s him.

514
GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:21:20pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yup. And he took the coward’s way out. Hope he remembered that suicide is a sin.

515
FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:21:20pm
516
Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:22:16pm

re: #500 Ace Rothstein

You’re not missing much. I tuned into the Smack Off back in June (?), and haven’t listened since. He lost his fastball at least a decade ago.

SAD. There’s always horse racing. I guess.

517
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:22:29pm
518
MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:22:51pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

What got into Cillizza? Nothing on why Jones win was bad for Dems.

I’m frightened.

519
FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:23:32pm
520
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:23:47pm

re: #510 Anymouse 🌹

And every Republican who supported either Moore or Trump can have that millstone hung around their campaigns.

Yes.

521
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:24:35pm
522
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:24:53pm

re: #517 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This guy needs to resign like now.

523
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:25:38pm

re: #521 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Accurate.

524
Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:26:02pm

re: #511 GlutenFreeJesus

[Embedded content]

Shit’s fucked up when a predator wears a collar of religion & is also a formal politician.

dog help us

525
MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:27:25pm

re: #522 HappyWarrior

This guy needs to resign like now.

Russian stooge and gross pajama boy? Fukkin’ A.

526
Skip Intro  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:27:57pm

re: #524 Stanley Sea

Shit’s fucked up when a predator wears a collar of religion & is also a formal politician.

dog help us

That’s like a double major in fraud and pervert studies.

527
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:29:08pm

re: #524 Stanley Sea

Shit’s fucked up when a predator wears a collar of religion & is also a formal politician.

dog help us

There were many, many, scary things about Dan Johnson, not just the predator aspect.

528
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:29:15pm

re: #525 MsJ

Yeah should have been awhile ago. For fuck sake, he’s Flounder from Animal House if Flounder were a jerk.

529
teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:30:26pm
530
FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:32:38pm
531
retired cynic  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:37:23pm

re: #503 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not every district will be that deep red!

533
JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:39:34pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh yeah!!

534
makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:40:05pm

Heh. Scorecard.

535
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:42:06pm

re: #533 JordanRules

Oh yeah!!

[Embedded content]

Please throw Steve King out, Iowans.

536
JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:43:30pm

She loves the limelight. She’s messy as hell and she’ll be on GMA tomorrow morning.

537
ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:46:04pm

re: #518 MsJ

What got into Cillizza? Nothing on why Jones win was bad for Dems.

I’m frightened.

I thought someone posted a tweet linking an article of his early today. I think he was saying the election last night was an example of the problems with split politics.

538
JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:46:19pm
539
CleverToad  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:46:49pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

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

540
prairiefire  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:47:24pm

re: #538 JordanRules

God, that’s awful, ffs.

541
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:49:51pm

re: #536 JordanRules

She loves the limelight. She’s messy as hell and she’ll be on GMA tomorrow morning.

[Embedded content]

Wonder who too. Disturbing that there are rumors about this in the 21st century.

542
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:49:55pm

re: #533 JordanRules

I’d like to see that about IA-4. That would be Steve King packing his bags then.

543
MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:50:02pm

re: #533 JordanRules

Oh yeah!!

[Embedded content]

Can we dream to get rid of Steve King?

Oooh, baby. I’m getting tingly!!

544
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:51:22pm

re: #543 MsJ

Can we dream to get rid of Steve King?

Oooh, baby. I’m getting tingly!!

I’d love to see him lose more than anyone not named Ryan. He’s a vile racist.

545
Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:51:59pm

re: #453 HappyWarrior

Yeah makes me wonder about how these guys were raised and taught.

A lot of boys were not taught that it was wrong. There may have been some vague handwaving, but probably not. And some people need to be told, in the same way that people need to be told not to plagiarize.

I, on the other hand, have told my kids I will hunt them down from beyond the grave if they ever do something like that.

546
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:54:57pm

Ms. Manigault is going to be on Good Morning America? Why does the media insist on pushing wingnuts in front of the cameras? Betcha they don’t even have someone on for “balance.”

One reason I don’t own a television set. (That and no signals or cable service here, but I didn’t have a TV before I moved here.)

547
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:57:15pm

re: #546 Anymouse 🌹

Ms. Manigault is going to be on Good Morning America? Why does the media insist on pushing wingnuts in front of the cameras? Betcha they don’t even have someone on for “balance.”

One reason I don’t own a television set. (That and no signals or cable service here, but I didn’t have a TV before I moved here.)

I don’t like her either but if this alleged story Is true, id be curious to find out who said snd I don’t blame GMA for trying to figure out whom.

548
plansbandc  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:57:46pm

re: #495 Stanley Sea

Been a big Rome fan since his show started airing here. He loves our town because our sports station was the second one to pick up his show in syndication.

549
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:58:00pm

re: #545 Belafon

A lot of boys were not taught that it was wrong. There may have been some vague handwaving, but probably not. And some people need to be told, in the same way that people need to be told not to plagiarize.

I, on the other hand, have told my kids I will hunt them down from beyond the grave if they ever do something like that.

It never occurred to me to behave like that. Never.

Saying “they were never taught” absolves such men of being responsible for their own actions. I don’t believe I ever met a parent that would allow a male child to make remarks or be grabby with women (or anyone) without a rebuke.

I don’t stand for that sort of conversation around me either.

550
EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:58:14pm

re: #546 Anymouse 🌹

Ms. Manigault is going to be on Good Morning America? Why does the media insist on pushing wingnuts in front of the cameras? Betcha they don’t even have someone on for “balance.”

One reason I don’t own a television set. (That and no signals or cable service here, but I didn’t have a TV before I moved here.)

A lack of partisan balance for this is much more forgivable than usual. She’s going to be on Good Morning America because the show hopes that she will gossip about the Trump White House, and I sure hope she has lots of juicy material to share.

551
Kragar  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:58:20pm
552
JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:58:43pm

re: #546 Anymouse 🌹

She is a member of the Omarosa party and this interview will be all about her.
She was historically a Dem before she aligned her grift with her grifty mentor.

Other than that, agreed!

553
PhillyPretzel  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:59:05pm

re: #546 Anymouse 🌹

I agree about the TV and that is why I watch PBS.

554
Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 6:59:52pm

re: #517 Backwoods_Sleuth

555
JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:00:31pm

Somebody didn’t take results last night very well.

556
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:03:00pm

re: #555 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Somebody didn’t take results last night very well.

Oh nice to have you in our county, Judge Moore, stay away from our malls.

557
makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:04:42pm

re: #536 JordanRules

She loves the limelight. She’s messy as hell and she’ll be on GMA tomorrow morning.

[Embedded content]

But chances are slim that she’ll spill anything.

Note that news reports are calling this a ‘negotiated resignation.’ NDA in effect.

558
HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:05:03pm

re: #549 Anymouse 🌹

It never occurred to me to behave like that. Never.

Saying “they were never taught” absolves such men of being responsible for their own actions. I don’t believe I ever met a parent that would allow a male child to make remarks or be grabby with women (or anyone) without a rebuke.

I don’t stand for that sort of conversation around me either.

I’m not trying to absolve them but I do think respect should be taught. That’s what I meant. Goes beyond “hey don’t grope” but more General and non sexual things like respecting people’s wishes.

559
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:06:51pm
560
Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:07:20pm

re: #549 Anymouse 🌹

It never occurred to me to behave like that. Never.

Saying “they were never taught” absolves such men of being responsible for their own actions. I don’t believe I ever met a parent that would allow a male child to make remarks or be grabby with women (or anyone) without a rebuke.

I don’t stand for that sort of conversation around me either.

I’m not absolving them of their responsibilities. They are adults. But I’m of the camp that there are just some things that need to be taught, because it really isn’t obvious to everyone.

561
Targetpractice  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:08:50pm

re: #555 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Somebody didn’t take results last night very well.

I think we’ve found the next chairman of the GOP.

562
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:08:53pm

re: #560 Belafon

I’m not absolving them of their responsibilities. They are adults. But I’m of the camp that there are just some things that need to be taught, because it really isn’t obvious to everyone.

I didn’t mean to suggest that anyone was absolving men for reprehensible behaviour. I’m sorry that I expressed myself poorly.

563
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:09:37pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

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564
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:10:48pm

re: #561 Targetpractice

I think we’ve found the next chairman of the GOP.

Is he the guy who jumped up on the stage and stripped at the Libertarian Party convention?

Libertarian Party Chairman Candidate Strips On Stage at National Convention (Goes to the Washington Times)

565
Belafon  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:10:59pm

re: #562 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t mean to suggest that anyone was absolving men for reprehensible behaviour. I’m sorry that I expressed myself poorly.

I think we’re on the same page. I was just making sure that no one thought I was absolving them.

566
Unshaken Defiance  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:11:45pm

re: #524 Stanley Sea

Shit’s fucked up when a predator wears a collar of religion & is also a formal politician.

dog help us

We must not have theocracy. Past that not pro slavery theocracy. Past that we must not have pedophilia based slave empowered theocracy.

At what point might one think god might not be on your side after all? If a deist is a person that believes in the most vague and uninvolved of gods, what is the word for a belief in a god that simply accedes to your every selfish perverted power hungry whim, while riding a horse to “victory” on election day?

567
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:13:00pm

re: #541 HappyWarrior

Wonder who too. Disturbing that there are rumors about this in the 21st century.

Given the positions that Moore espoused and still managed to win an overwhelming margin among the white voters, this wouldn’t be surprising at all, especially in this White House. Think about how Kelly insulted Frederica Wilson a few months ago.

— minor edit

568
MsJ  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:15:02pm

re: #550 EPR-radar

A lack of partisan balance for this is much more forgivable than usual. She’s going to be on Good Morning America because the show hopes that she will gossip about the Trump White House, and I sure hope she has lots of juicy material to share.

She won’t. I’m sure she signed a NDA. She’s not gonna shit where she eats.

569
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:15:53pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

FwvVOKTSUnhfvEJd3SFuGAxTK5bpIsOtL+LN97dTCeEpsxNQ1rdxtDcpIuzuJ2Ru5myqR64T8UGt/vYwmjlAaTPJ5C5vYAvaOerirt6JwnzQu4aJdpITAUxC8gKSYqsJpaxoXbTU2hHjU/l4yWq/1HLcmzYF8pVkglqXpdCg75GgWQO33w9V2g==

570
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:16:41pm

let me make a guess about the effect of trump
on the makeup of the gop

it might be like the overuse of antibiotic soap in that it kills off the weaker bacterias but therefore breeds nastier bacterias, like cruz and king

on the other hand it does lead to less bacterias overall

571
EPR-radar  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:20:39pm

re: #557 makeitstop

But chances are slim that she’ll spill anything.

Note that news reports are calling this a ‘negotiated resignation.’ NDA in effect.

People need to start breaking Trump NDAs wholesale. Just the material from Celebrity Apprentice would have the entire GOP defecate in panic and run away.

572
Anymouse 🌹  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:21:16pm

re: #566 Unshaken Defiance

We must not have theocracy. Past that not pro slavery theocracy. Past that we must not have pedophilia based slave empowered theocracy.

At what point might one think god might not be on your side after all? If a deist is a person that believes in the most vague and uninvolved of gods, what is the word for a belief in a god that simply accedes to your every selfish perverted power hungry whim, while riding a horse to “victory” on election day?

“Christian Reconstructionist” or “Dominionist”

573
Interesting Times  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:21:45pm

From last night:

574
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:25:21pm

Re: Dan Johnson suicide

I knew that some busted perv would off himself if enough of them were busted. It is a tragedy for his family, and for society that he will not have to face the bar of justice but these people must not be allowed to hold themselves hostage. Consequences to the perpetrator, self inflicted or not, should not be a consideration when these creeps are exposed.

575
DodgerFan1988  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:26:02pm

re: #536 JordanRules

She loves the limelight. She’s messy as hell and she’ll be on GMA tomorrow morning.

[Embedded content]

Omarosa reportedly was offended by several comments by other White House staff that attacked black women in Alabama, including one statement that they were being “stupid and only good for breeding more Democrats.”

576
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:26:11pm

re: #490 TedStriker

In this case, I definitely consider it to be an act of cowardice and shame, because it denies Johnson’s victim(s) their day in court to get their measure of justice.

It could also be an act of total despair and hopelessness. His sins were not private; they were published for all to see. He may have been totally corrupt and hateful, but that doesn’t mean he is exempt from normal human reactions to facing contempt from all those who may have respected him or cared for him.

577
JordanRules  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:27:49pm

re: #575 DodgerFan1988

Breeders yo. They always bring back the classics!

578
BlueSpotinAL  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:29:15pm

re: #502 Ace Rothstein

Sorry for this, but this account has me in tears.

[Embedded content]

Kneel before Mick!

579
Stanley Sea  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:32:01pm

re: #575 DodgerFan1988

Omarosa reportedly was offended by several comments by other White House staff that attacked black women in Alabama, including one statement that they were being “stupid and only good for breeding more Democrats.”

she signed up for that shit. She promoted that shit.

She’s a grifter.

580
VegasGolfer  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:32:39pm

dailykos.com

Here’s something really cool even though megan is going is going through tough times, and stands with a party who would deny the care her “maverick” father is getting to the most in need.
I sincerely doubt someone from the right would display the comfort and compassion that Joe provides.

581
makeitstop  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:34:46pm

re: #579 Stanley Sea

she signed up for that shit. She promoted that shit.

She’s a grifter.

Yeah. Ms. ‘Kneel before Trump’ knew what she signed up for.

582
DodgerFan1988  Dec 13, 2017 • 7:37:23pm

re: #577 JordanRules

Breeders yo. They always bring back the classics!

I hope she outs which staff member said that.

583
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2017 • 8:20:21pm

re: #555 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Somebody didn’t take results last night very well.

LOL at the truck coming up to the Frying Pan Road exit.

584
John_Manyjars  Dec 13, 2017 • 11:57:55pm

re: #76 Kragar

Ah go f*ck yourself Bernie, thanks to you we have the orange sh*tstain occupying the White House. Choke on it along w/Stein you tool.

585
John_Manyjars  Dec 14, 2017 • 12:28:11am

re: #432 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I respectfully disagree. There are many that deserve to suffer that sort of misery, precisely because of the misery they *choose* to inflict upon others. He was one, tRump and his enablers are others.

JMHO.

586
John_Manyjars  Dec 14, 2017 • 12:29:23am

re: #511 GlutenFreeJesus

So much winning


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School Shooter Nikolas Cruz Belonged to White Supremacist GroupThis my surprised face.... BREAKING: Nikolas Cruz, alleged perpetrator in the deadly school shooting in Parkland, Florida, was associated with white supremacist group Republic of Florida & participated in the group’s training exercises, according to the group’s leader. More info: ...
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Your Medicine Cabinet Knows What AIls Youblog.timesunion.com HOFFMAN FILESYour medicine cabinet knows what ails you.By Rob Hoffman on February 15, 2018 at 5:27 AM1We all fancy ourselves experts when it comes to the human condition. We see our fellow human beings as open books, and we ...
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A.G. Schneiderman Files Civil Rights Lawsuit Against the Weinstein Companies, Harvey Weinstein, and Robert Weinstein NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman today filed suit against The Weinstein Company (“TWC”), Harvey Weinstein, and Robert Weinstein for egregious violations of New York’s civil rights, human rights, and business laws. The suit, filed ...
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Portugal. The Man - Keep on (Official Video) Portugal. The Man - Keep On Video conceptualized, created and directed by Paulin RoguesFollow Paulin at instagram.com Catch Portugal. The Man on tour:portugaltheman.com WOODSTOCK available now!atlantic.lnk.to Follow Portugal. The ManWebsite: portugaltheman.comFB: facebook.com IG: instagram.comTW: @portugalthemanSC: SoundCloudYT: youtube.comTumblr: portugaltheman.tumblr.com ...
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Marvel’s Jessica Jones - Season 2 Jessica Jones is back as New York City’s tough-as-nails private investigator. Although this time, the case is even more personal than ever before. Fueled by a myriad of questions and lies, she will do whatever it takes to uncover ...
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Deadpool 2 Teaser Trailer - Red Band (2018) Ryan Reynolds, Josh Brolin The Merc with a Mouth takes a pop at Cable, Toy Story and Justice League in this teaser for the upcoming Deadpool sequel. Watch more entertainment and game trailers here!YouTube Watch the latest from IGN here!YouTube ------------------------------­----Follow IGN for ...
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Poll: Number of Conservative-Leaning States Drops to 39 (CN) – The number of conservative-leaning states has dropped from 44 to 39, according to a new Gallup poll released Wednesday. The survey, conducted over a number of polls taken throughout the year, found that 35 percent of Americans ...
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Shock Tactics: Why ‘Higher Risk’ Human Targets Get Stunned With Tasers NEW YORK – The maker of the Taser says the electroshock weapon is the safest tool on a police officer’s belt – with a few caveats. In pages of warnings, Axon Enterprise Inc advises police to beware that some ...
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