Sunday Night Funk: George Clinton & the P-Funk All Stars: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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Jan. 24, 2018 | Abby O’Neill — The rhythm of family has been a constant thread throughout P-Funk’s long lineage and the myriad iterations the band has undergone in its 50-plus years. From The Parliaments to Funkadelic to Parliament Funkadelic to the P-Funk All Stars, George Clinton has conducted the mothership as a reliable father figure. When he commands you to “put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip, and come on up to the Mothership,” he’s presenting to you the first law of Funktonian physics. We at NPR pledged our groovellegiance when he and his P-Funk All Stars touched down to bless the Tiny Desk.

Clinton has brought his own bloodline into the most recent lineup of P-Funk: His grandchildren are the newest backup singers, while another grandchild serves as tour manager. Though this was a much smaller outfit than their traditional stage shows — no horn section, no dancers, no Sir Nose D’Voidoffunk — the extended family was also in full effect. Garrett Shider on rhythm guitar, filling in for his late father, Garry Shider, aka Starchild. Even original trumpeter Bennie Cowan, who still tours with the group but didn’t make it to the Tiny Desk, typically plays alongside his son Benzel on drums. Blackbyrd McKnight and Lige Curry cement the foundation as elder statesmen who’ve been rocking with Clinton since 1978.

Indeed, the funk father refuses to let the musicianship slip — the band was as sonically tight as ever, blessing us with a canonical three-song set list of classic jams. P-Funk’s influence shaped ’90s hip-hop and culture immeasurably; without Clinton, we’d have no NWA, no G-funk, no Tupac, no EPMD, no Ice Cube… and, of course, no one’s forgotten about Dre. Clinton and P-Funk brought world class funksmanship, and it was our pleasure to air the room out and squeegee the floors after soaking up their cosmic slop.

Set List

“Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On”

“One Nation Under A Groove”

“Give up the Funk (Tear the Roof off the Sucker)”

MUSICIANS

George Clinton (lead vocals), Dwayne Blackbyrd McKnight (guitar), Lige Curry (bass), Garrett Shider (guitar), Danny Bedrosian (keyboard), Benzel Cowan (drums), Tonysha Nelson (backup vocals), Patavian Lewis (backup vocals), Tairee Parks (backup vocals)

CREDITS

Producers: Abby O’Neill, Niki Walker, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Maia Stern, Bronson Arcuri, Alyse Young; Production Assistant: Salvatore Maicki; Photo: Christina Ascani/NPR

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528 comments

1
Ace-o-aces  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:13:44pm

What. The. Fuck?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:14:59pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

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What. The. Fuck?

I like their optimistic attitude.// Oh and Muslims play football too dumbasses.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:15:34pm
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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:15:58pm

What? No Bootsy Collins?!?!

By the way, I’ve run into George a few times in Austin over the years and the man has a funk that follows him around that is just overwhelming. Room clearing.

Hell of a musician, though.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:21:45pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

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What. The. Fuck?

I wonder why people think they’re contemptible? Oh, wait, they embrace that kind of racist garbage and feed it to their ignorant as fuck readers to gain click bait and profit.

Do you ever wonder if their ignorant readers understand they are being used as food?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:22:36pm

re: #5 austin_blue

I wonder why people think they’re contemptible? Oh, wait, they embrace that kind of racist garbage and feed it to their ignorant as fuck readers to gain click bait and profit.

Do you ever wonder if their ignorant readers understand they are being used as food?

They don’t, I assure you. It’s honestly kinda sad.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:25:09pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

They don’t, I assure you. It’s honestly kinda sad.

No, really, it’s just pitiful. They accuse Dems as being sheeple, but there they are, being led to the trough of Manon through Breitbart.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:28:00pm

LOL (I got stuck at the end of the last thread):

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:31:28pm

re: #7 austin_blue

No, really, it’s just pitiful. They accuse Dems as being sheeple, but there they are, being led to the trough of Manon through Breitbart.

They parrot shit that takes me five seconds to debunk. I don’t even bother correcting it when I see people post it on their FB because I figure if you’re going to Breitbart for your news, you’re looking for bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:32:30pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

LOL (I got stuck at the end of the last thread):

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More accurate. Also a bunch of man babies who thought they were hot shit but freaked out over plastic cups wishing them a happy holidays.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:35:51pm

re: #232 nines09

Really?

From the last thread;

Nines09:

Yeah, really, I have no idea who those people are.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:36:24pm

re: #11 austin_blue

From the last thread;

Nineso9:

Yeah, really, I have no idea who those people are.

It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia cast.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:38:47pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

Muslims can touch a pigskin in the case of need, they just can’t eat it or pray in it. For example, it is permissable for a Muslim doctor or nurse to remove a patient’s pigskin clothing or shoes in order to treat them. A Muslim policeman may open a pigskin wallet while looking for identification or other documents.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:39:44pm

There is a Trump tweet for everything, even the Super Bowl.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:40:58pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Muslims can touch a pigskin in the case of need, they just can’t eat it or pray in it. For example, it is permissable for a Muslim doctor or nurse to remove a patient’s pigskin clothing or shoes in order to treat them. A Muslim policeman may open a pigskin wallet while looking for identification or other documents.

So, it’s not Muslim Kryptonite? Touching it won’t cause them to burst into flames?

/////

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:41:13pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia cast.

Ah, thanks! We no haz cablez and don’t spend $100/per month on channelz we don’tz watch.

You’d be amazed at the amount of content you can get for free.

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TedStriker  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:41:16pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Muslims can touch a pigskin in the case of need, they just can’t eat it or pray in it. For example, it is permissable for a Muslim doctor or nurse to remove a patient’s pigskin clothing or shoes in order to treat them. A Muslim policeman may open a pigskin wallet while looking for identification or other documents.

Seriously.

It’s like the bigots think that anything related to a pig is like fucking Kryptonite to Muslims.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:41:24pm

I always try to find out if something is factually true if I post it hence why I don’t post a bunch of political stuff in mass. I did have to correct my left leaning uncle on one matter and to his credit, he acknowledged his error but the few times I’ve called out conservatives using impartial sources, I get noise about how Snopes is liberal propaganda and I’m thinking to myself dude you’re posting stuff from Ben Shapiro or someone else with a blatant right wing agenda. The couple who run Snopes call out falsehoods and the wife was a registered Republican at one point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:42:26pm

re: #16 austin_blue

Ah, thanks! We no haz cablez and don’t spend $100/per month on channelz we don’tz watch.

You’d be amazed at the amount of content you can get for free.

Give it a watch one of these days. It’s one of the more funny shows on TV IMO.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:42:52pm

re: #17 TedStriker

Seriously.

It’s like the bigots think that anything related to a pig is like fucking Kryptonite to Muslims.

And the funny thing is, with all their “I know! Make them eat Bacon! That’ll expose the Muslims!” nonsense, they forget that Jews are under the same laws.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:44:39pm

re: #17 TedStriker

Seriously.

It’s like the bigots think that anything related to a pig is like fucking Kryptonite to Muslims.

Like they think pork fat bullets are some kind of Muslim go away powder. These people either have never met a Muslim or have never listened to one. But that’s what happens when you reside in a right wing echo chamber like Breitbart.

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TedStriker  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:45:27pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

And the funny thing is, with all their “I know! Make them eat Bacon! That’ll expose the Muslims!” nonsense, they forget that Jews are under the same laws.

With many of those bigots, it’s a feature, not a bug, because while their End Times fantasies hinge on Israel as the trigger for Armageddon, they hate actual Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:45:46pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

And the funny thing is, with all their “I know! Make them eat Bacon! That’ll expose the Muslims!” nonsense, they forget that Jews are under the same laws.

I prefer falafel to bacon. There I said it. And I’m a good Slavic German Irish boy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:45:48pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

And the funny thing is, with all their “I know! Make them eat Bacon! That’ll expose the Muslims!” nonsense, they forget that Jews are under the same laws.

As we’ve seen, they don’t like Jewish people either. That would be a twofer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:46:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:46:40pm

re: #22 TedStriker

With many of those bigots, it’s a feature, not a bug, because while their End Times fantasies hinge on Israel as the trigger for Armageddon, they hate actual Jews.

If a more moderate and less in love with the American right was Israel’s PM.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:47:44pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

So, it’s not Muslim Kryptonite? Touching it won’t cause them to burst into flames?

/////

There’s a scene in an old Schwarzenegger movie called End of Days where the devil, played by Gabriel Byrne, walks into a church to mess things up.

One of the Priests holds up a cross to try and stop him but he’s all like “haha, that’s fucking funny” and promptly stabs the guy through the forehead with it.

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Jay C  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:49:50pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

So, it’s not Muslim Kryptonite? Touching it won’t cause them to burst into flames?

/////

Not a football, anyway: despite the common moniker, they are made out of cowhide.

Not that Breitbart dipshits would care, as long as they can get in a “clever”smear….

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:50:23pm
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majii  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:53:15pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

“LOL (I got stuck at the end of the last thread):…”

I didn’t understand their point when I was growing up, but when I left home, went to college, and got out into the world, I understood why my mom and dad placed so much emphasis on teaching me to not let others define me. I read the kind of BS RW media puts out and laugh. I probably pissed off some of my so-called former co-workers that identify as conservative the other day. I read a post in which some RW Caucasian politician said he felt “uncomfortable” around certain persons in America. He was pushing Trump’s form of anti-immigration BS, racism, bigotry, etc. I posted the article on Facebook and wrote: “This guy’s heritage is probably Irish, and he doesn’t seem to know that when his ancestors arrived in America, they weren’t accepted at first. I added: I’m probably one of those Americans he feels “uncomfortable” being around, but he doesn’t have to worry about me trying to take anything away from him because I have my own sh*t. Lots of people think they know me, but they really don’t. My parents also taught me not to tell others all of my business, thoughts, and feelings which is the reason some think they know me when they don’t. I always keep certain things to myself.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:57:20pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Muslims can touch a pigskin in the case of need, they just can’t eat it or pray in it. For example, it is permissable for a Muslim doctor or nurse to remove a patient’s pigskin clothing or shoes in order to treat them. A Muslim policeman may open a pigskin wallet while looking for identification or other documents.

Oh, look at you! You’re a READER!

By the way, that comment I made in the last thread is absolutely true. The Railroad Commission made sure that any groundwater used in oil and gas production wasn’t regulated under the Texas Water Code. They can suck as much water out of the ground as they need and it can’t be regulated by any Groundwater Conservation District in the State. Any town in the Permian Basin is screwed, blued, and tattooed. Expect water refugees to be moving to Weatherford and Austin in the near future because their wells will be as dry as a bone in the next five years.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:57:48pm

re: #30 majii

“LOL (I got stuck at the end of the last thread):…”

I didn’t understand their point when I was growing up, but when I left home, went to college, and got out into the world, I understood why my mom and dad placed so much emphasis on teaching me to not let others define me. I read the kind of BS RW media puts out and laugh. I probably pissed off some of my so-called former co-workers that identify as conservative the other day. I read a post in which some RW Caucasian politician said he felt “uncomfortable” around certain persons in America. He was pushing Trump’s form of anti-immigration BS, racism, bigotry, etc. I posted the article on Facebook and wrote: “This guy’s heritage is probably Irish, and he doesn’t seem to know that when his ancestors arrived in America, they weren’t accepted at first. I added: I’m probably one of those Americans he feels “uncomfortable” being around, but he doesn’t have to worry about me trying to take anything away from him because I have my own sh*t. Lots of people think they know me, but they really don’t. My parents also taught me not to tell others all of my business, thoughts, and feelings which is the reason some think they know me when they don’t. I always keep certain things to myself.

You already know but I’m really into my Irish ancestry which is part of why I’m sympathetic towards newcomers. My one third great grandmother was an Irish speaker and famine survivor. Why shouldn’t I be welcoming as I’m sure she wanted to be.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 9:59:43pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Give it a watch one of these days. It’s one of the more funny shows on TV IMO.

No cablez! We Iz Luddites.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:00:28pm

re: #31 austin_blue

Oh, look at you! You’re a READER!

By the way, that comment I made in the last thread is absolutely true. The Railroad Commission made sure that any groundwater used in in oil and gas production wasn’t regulated under the Texas Water Code. They can suck as much water out of the ground as they need and it can’t be regulated by any Groundwater Conservation District in the State. Any town in the Permian Basin is screwed, blued, and tattooed. Expect water refugees to be moving to Weatherford and Austin in the near future because their wells will be as dry as a bone in the next five years.

Or move further north, beyond Oklahoma and Kansas, because they’re sucking their aquifer dry also. I suppose we better get ready for a bunch of north Texans here… .

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:02:17pm

re: #33 austin_blue

No cablez! We Iz Luddites.

Hulu?

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:03:31pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

And the funny thing is, with all their “I know! Make them eat Bacon! That’ll expose the Muslims!” nonsense, they forget that Jews are under the same laws.

This was one of the Big Things on this site before Charles decided to remove the racists/bigots.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:08:31pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I prefer falafel to bacon. There I said it. And I’m a good Slavic German Irish boy.

Not to dis falafel, but given my druthers…

BACON!

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:11:20pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

Or move further north, beyond Oklahoma and Kansas, because they’re sucking their aquifer dry also. I suppose we better get ready for a bunch of north Texans here… .

Old Texas saying:

Whiskey’s for drinkin’, water’s for fightn’.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:11:25pm

re: #37 austin_blue

Not to dis falafel, but given my druthers…

BACON!

Maybe I need to have better bacon. I’m a little cautious with the stuff tho given my heart condition.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:12:06pm

That Cloverfield “sequel”. Wow. What a waste of time.

At least Kill Bill 1/2 are in NF now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:13:02pm

I’m going to bail for the night. Tired and whatnot. Be well, y’all, and I hope MsJ is feeling better in the morning.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:26:12pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:27:53pm

re: #31 austin_blue

Oh, look at you! You’re a READER!

By the way, that comment I made in the last thread is absolutely true. The Railroad Commission made sure that any groundwater used in oil and gas production wasn’t regulated under the Texas Water Code. They can suck as much water out of the ground as they need and it can’t be regulated by any Groundwater Conservation District in the State. Any town in the Permian Basin is screwed, blued, and tattooed. Expect water refugees to be moving to Weatherford and Austin in the near future because their wells will be as dry as a bone in the next five years.

Lubbock’s water situation is already perilous, private wells are running dry in and around town and little is being done about it. The primary surface source, Lake Alan Henry, has only been online 5 years and is already drying up. It consistently fails to provide the required volume and city planning pays no heed to the possibility of climate change making the situation worse. This forces continued use of groundwater, with predicted depletion rates that take no account of frakking use and that also use replenishment estimates that ignore climate change. They claim they are good for 40 years. I think it’s more like 10 and may be even less with a really severe drought event.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:34:45pm

Photon Herder
@goddamnedfrank
First the raw water then the tide pods now this I don’t understand what is happening.
12:25 AM - Feb 5, 2018

Inoright?

Somehow the Patriots losing has resulted in Conservative butt hurt?

How did a sports ball game become political?

Really, what’s the next political football? An investigation into Russian meddling into a Presidential election?

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VegasGolfer  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:41:57pm

When did standing at bars for the National Anthem before sporting events become a thing?
I was at my neighborhood bar with my buddies (who like me are vets) and noticed some people were standing. Others were sitting with their hands over their hearts. We all agreed this was all politically motivated because until recently we had never seen people doing this, we all agreed that the real reason people are doing this has racial undertones. And I said forced patriotism is not patriotism.
And if anybody wanted to question my loyalty to my county because i wasn’t standing at attention, i would ask them if they served their country like I did, if not, stfu.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 10:51:48pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Lubbock’s water situation is already perilous, private wells are running dry in and around town and little is being done about it. The primary surface source, Lake Alan Henry, has only been online 5 years and is already drying up. It consistently fails to provide the required volume and city planning pays no heed to the possibility of climate change making the situation worse. This forces continued use of groundwater, with predicted depletion rates that take no account of frakking use and that also use replenishment estimates that ignore climate change. They claim they are good for 40 years. I think it’s more like 10 and may be even less with a really severe drought event.

Agreed, and in addition, the other surface reservoir, Lake Meredith on the Canadian River, is basically unusable. The combination of fracking water, irrigation, and climate change drought is turning West Texas into a human desert (it has been an actual desert for quite a while, but reservoirs and groundwater has made it habitable). The crisis is upon all of that population whether they realize it or not.

They may not believe in climate change, but Mother Nature doesn’t give a fuck. All of their investments in their homes, communities, infrastructure, industry, and cities isn’t worth a rat’s ass without potable water.

They’re fucked, and they are going to have to abandon all of it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 4, 2018 • 11:08:04pm

re: #46 austin_blue

Agreed, and in addition, the other surface reservoir, Lake Meredith on the Canadian River, is basically unusable. The combination of fracking water, irrigation, and climate change drought is turning West Texas into a human desert (it has been an actual desert for quite a while, but reservoirs and groundwater has made it habitable). The crisis is upon all of that population whether they realize it or not.

They may not believe in climate change, but Mother Nature doesn’t give a fuck. All of their investments in their homes, communities, infrastructure, industry, and cities isn’t worth a rat’s ass without potable water.

They’re fucked, and they are going to have to abandon all of it.

I got while the gettin’ was good. Btw, Lubbock has not had measurable precipitation since November 8, 89 days ago. The longest such spell in history was 98 days in 2005-2006.

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 11:21:48pm

re: #45 VegasGolfer

When did standing at bars for the National Anthem before sporting events become a thing?
I was at my neighborhood bar with my buddies (who like me are vets) and noticed some people were standing. Others were sitting with their hands over their hearts. We all agreed this was all politically motivated because until recently we had never seen people doing this, we all agreed that the real reason people are doing this has racial undertones.

And I said forced patriotism is not patriotism.

And if anybody wanted to question my loyalty to my county because i wasn’t standing at attention, i would ask them if they served their country like I did, if not, stfu.

Exactly. And good for you.

I was a SAC pilot for three years and spent one week out of three in a facility in the upper peninsula of Michigan full of people who would run out to out to our planes, take off, and sling nuclear devastation upon the Godless Commies.

One of our BUFFs, if used in the US, could make a run with our standard payload (four 1.3 MT gravity bombs and eight 210 KT Short Range Attack Missiles on an internal rotary revolver) from Atlanta to Boston and kill +/- 35 million people. Before fallout affects.

One plane.

We had six at my base alone.

These “patriots” make my teeth itch. They have have no no idea what this “president” is fucking with. It’s hell in a bucket

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allegro  Feb 4, 2018 • 11:27:58pm

re: #48 austin_blue

Exactly. And good for you.

I was a SAC pilot for three years and spent one week out of three in a facility in the upper peninsula of Michigan full of people who would run out to out to our planes, take off, and sling nuclear devastation upon the Godless Commies.

One of our BUFFs, if used in the US, could make a run with our standard payload (four 1.3 MT gravity bombs and eight 210 KT Short Range Attack Missiles on an internal rotary revolver) from Atlanta to Boston and kill +/- 35 million people. Before fallout affects.

One plane.

We had six at my base alone.

These “patriots” make my teeth itch. They have have no no idea what this “president” is fucking with. It’s hell in a bucket

It was unfortunate that I read this just before turning out the lights for bed. =O

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austin_blue  Feb 4, 2018 • 11:40:00pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I got while the gettin’ was good. Btw, Lubbock has not had measurable precipitation since November 8, 89 days ago. The longest such spell in history was 98 days in 2005-2006.

They need to strap in. It’s the new normal.

And also, they should consider selling and moving while they can. Their property isn’t going to increase in value ever again. It’ll soon be a loss leader for climate change and an object lesson for other property owners across the country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2018 • 11:56:47pm

More and more I’m thankful I live somewhere that water is abundant.

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:03:46am

In relation to Drumpf and tweaking the dragon’s tail, little music:

Steely Dan - King Of The World

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:14:15am

Oh, and Kate Bush on what it might be like to be a fetus after a nuclear attack:

Kate Bush - Breathing - Official Music Video

Well, that’s it for me tonight. Oh, I turned 62 yesterday. Doesn’t feel any different. Night all. Sweet scaly dreams.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 1:00:29am

re: #17 TedStriker

Seriously.

It’s like the bigots think that anything related to a pig is like fucking Kryptonite to Muslims.

another sign of their total knee-jerk cluelessness about what that religion and culture is about

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 1:24:57am

Nuke or bio? Trump and his grisly gang have a choice of ways to kill us.

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 1:51:35am

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Nuke or bio? Trump and his grisly gang have a choice of ways to kill us.

We have to reduce people’s dependency on Big Government, and what better time than during a nuclear or biochemical disaster?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2018 • 3:19:03am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 3:21:23am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

EVERYBODY GETS $1.50

and the joke is that even this pitiful “tax relief” is not permanent…

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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 3:50:26am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the joke is that even this pitiful “tax relief” is not permanent…

There might be an even bigger joke. I believe the person Ryan described was a school secretary. That $1.50 is likely to cost her future pay increases or even her job when the Republicans cut/freeze federal funding for schools in order shrink the deficit expansion they’ve caused.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 3:55:11am

re: #59 Weaselone

There might be an even bigger joke. I believe the person Ryan described was a school secretary. That $1.50 is likely to cost her future pay increases or even her job when the Republicans cut/freeze federal funding for schools in order shrink the deficit expansion they’ve caused.

People are going to see private expenses increase across the board as governments at all levels scramble to cut programs and benefits that aid middle and low-income earners and their families.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:03:53am

Random song on the frost heaved ride into work:

Blue October - “I Hope You’re Happy” Official Lyric Video

I remember when the world was ours to take
I remember you next to me
I remember you with every breath I take
You’ll always have a piece of me
I remember, yeah
Try to remember that

I remember every word that we spoke
You right here next to me
I remember how we tried and we tried
I remember everything
Try to remember that
That I hope you’re happy
That I hope you’re happy

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Sea Mexican!  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:26:23am

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

What. The. Fuck?

Just a thought… maybe, just maybe, many Americans aren’t into the game?

Why do conservatives have such a hard on for fluff?

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:32:57am

Bonds on a bind, inflation worries, yada, yada, yada, market watch is on today.

While the Philadelphia Eagles were busy beating the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl, stocks in Asia slid sharply Monday morning, extending steep declines late last week in European and U.S. markets, including Friday’s 666-point drop for the Dow Jones Industrial Average. U.S. stock futures point to another lower open for Wall Street on Monday.

Meanwhile, a key measure of market choppiness—the Cboe Volatility Index, known as the VIX—surged 55% last week to 17.16, although it remains below its long-term average of around 20. The index is a gauge of expected stock swings based on S&P 500 options prices.

The surprise selloffs, accompanied by sharp rises in U.S. bond yields, could mean that overheated markets will finally start to cool. Most major global indexes haven’t suffered corrections, defined as a 10% fall from recent highs, in at least two years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:52:05am

re: #62 Sea Mexican!

Just a thought… maybe, just maybe, many Americans aren’t into the game?

Why do conservatives have such a hard on for fluff?

Football is more than a sport to these people, it is a repository and showcase for American Values.

I have not given a hoot about a football game since the 1968 literally 50 years, when my tow favorite teams as skid, the Packers and the Jets were playing: it was a win-win situation for me. I admired both Johnny Unitas as the old-school solid QB and Joe Namath as the cool, hip newcomer although I guess my heart was still with the Jets.

I can stand back and look at professional sports as a business and a form of entertainment. Competition, striving for excellence and fair play are fine ideals that belong in any endeavor, but I see them as nothing that is more special or unique because they are part of sports league play.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:52:37am

re: #63 Shropshire Slasher

Some of the Asian market slide could be due to the Chinese New Year coming up in another 10 days or so. Individuals will be taking profits to fund those holiday feasts and the “lucky money” given to kids. I’m not sure if Asian firms use fiscal years pegged to the lunar calendar or the common one, so can’t say if they also make decisions based on the end of the lunar year.

Of course, the DJIA and NASDAQ aren’t doing so hot, so that’s another big effect on the Asian markets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:55:03am

re: #65 wheat-dogg

Some of the Asian market slide could be due to the Chinese New Year coming up in another 10 days or so. Individuals will be taking profits to fund those holiday feasts and the “lucky money” given to kids. I’m not sure if Asian firms use fiscal years pegged to the lunar calendar or the common one, so can’t say if they also make decisions based on the end of the lunar year.

Of course, the DJIA and NASDAQ aren’t doing so hot, so that’s another big effect on the Asian markets.

Do not forget that China’s largest credit rating agency recently downgraded US securities, citing “political deficiencies”.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2018 • 4:56:15am

Odds Trump will sign off on Schiff memo rebuttal?

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:13:50am

re: #38 austin_blue

Old Texas saying:

Whiskey’s for drinkin’, water’s for fightn’.

W.C. Fields:

I never drink water; fish fuck in it.

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Woods Witch  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:13:56am

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

Slim to none.

But now we know now what Fox and Friends were talking about this morning

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:20:00am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do not forget that China’s largest credit rating agency recently downgraded US securities, citing “political deficiencies”.

Yeah, a smack in the face of the Orange Yam.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:20:34am

re: #62 Sea Mexican!

People may have been turned off by the stories of CTE and other serious injuries. And not just that.

A couple weeks ago I saw a report about Aaron Hernandez’s head trauma. They showed his brain scans. It’s horrifying. He had been playing since middle school, his brain was shrunken and whole sections were destroyed. I cried when I saw that. If I had a son who loved football, I just don’t think I could support his playing. Not knowing what I know. And maybe people are just sick of all of it. The injuries, treating players like royalty and letting them get away with shitty things, the crappy tax deals for stadiums and the insane ticket prices, all of it.

Poor Breitbart Assholes, it’s always an assault on their manhood. Snowflakes.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:23:06am

re: #71 A Mom Anon

Youth league soccer coaches are even being advised against players heading the ball. Repeated cranial impacts are not a good thing.

Whoda thunk it?

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Woods Witch  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:31:36am

Welp, this alert just popped up on my phone

CNN

Just another Monday

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:33:40am
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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:40:07am

re: #73 Woods Witch

Page Not Found!
The absence of this page could lead to paranoia which is a mental illness that creates the illusion that any accusation directed against another is necessarily true and unfalsifiable! Therefore, the paranoid has no space on the Internet which is, by definition, a civilizational achievement. Within this spirit, we, therefore, are the right to claim that the page, has no space within human civilization.

Finally, what has inspired us to generate this error is our concern to inform the reader of the true mission of LFG.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:44:06am

re: #70 wheat-dogg

Yeah, a smack in the face of the Orange Yam.

oh no, it was meant in an entirely bipartisan sense…lack of cooperation on the part of the Democrats in passing legislation with a GOP majority…

/

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jeffreyw  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:48:07am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:49:53am

re: #31 austin_blue

Oh, look at you! You’re a READER!

By the way, that comment I made in the last thread is absolutely true. The Railroad Commission made sure that any groundwater used in oil and gas production wasn’t regulated under the Texas Water Code. They can suck as much water out of the ground as they need and it can’t be regulated by any Groundwater Conservation District in the State. Any town in the Permian Basin is screwed, blued, and tattooed. Expect water refugees to be moving to Weatherford and Austin in the near future because their wells will be as dry as a bone in the next five years.

But they still got … Jay-Zuss!

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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:51:00am

re: #77 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Bobcat! Nice!

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:52:54am

Saw a Dan Patrick ad this morning. He touts how he stood up to Obama and is supporting Trump. Right now, it’s probably not earning him any votes but not costing him any either.

And that’s why you can’t completely trust a poll of how Democrats are doing all across the country. The elections this November are all state level.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 5:56:27am

Kitty Kitty!

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Woods Witch  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:00:02am

re: #75 Shropshire Slasher

Oops!

Fixed!

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:04:24am

re: #82 Woods Witch

I wasn’t trying to be an asshole, I just found that page funny :)

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Woods Witch  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:09:29am

re: #83 Shropshire Slasher

No offense taken. Thanks for the heads-up

I’ve stumbled across the occasional broken link and that notice always makes me laugh

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:09:40am

re: #3 Dave In Austin

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Bring water!

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:14:25am
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lizardofid  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:14:29am

re: #77 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Great photo. Even without scale, me thinks that would be a large one around these parts.

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lizardofid  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:17:38am

re: #80 Belafon

Saw a Dan Patrick ad this morning. He touts how he stood up to Obama and is supporting Trump. Right now, it’s probably not earning him any votes but not costing him any either.

And that’s why you can’t completely trust a poll of how Democrats are doing all across the country. The elections this November are all state level.

Yep, “Big city liberals want open borders”

“spit”

I may dislike him worse than Havana Ted……well,, maybe it’s a tie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:18:01am

re: #45 VegasGolfer

When did standing at bars for the National Anthem before sporting events become a thing?
I was at my neighborhood bar with my buddies (who like me are vets) and noticed some people were standing. Others were sitting with their hands over their hearts. We all agreed this was all politically motivated because until recently we had never seen people doing this, we all agreed that the real reason people are doing this has racial undertones. And I said forced patriotism is not patriotism.
And if anybody wanted to question my loyalty to my county because i wasn’t standing at attention, i would ask them if they served their country like I did, if not, stfu.

Hell most people I know have always used the anthem as time for a quick piss or to get something else to eat or drink. BTW, it’s fairly new that is within the last 8 years that NFL players have been standing, in the past they were in the locker room while the anthem played and what’s more is the guy who suggested that Colin K kneel is a former Green Beret turned NFL player. But you won’t read that on Breitbart because Breitbart has an agenda to get their baby readers outraged rather than to listen about why these guys are kneeling.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:18:27am

re: #86 JordanRules

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He’s an idiot. Shocker.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:19:43am

I’d rather be a “big city liberal” than a close minded small town conservative. I in fact do live in a small and fairly rural town.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:21:29am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Hell most people I know have always used the anthem as time for a quick piss or to get something else to eat or drink.

People who do not grasp the underlying concept behind things like patriotism, manhood or religion are the ones who cling the closest to the arbitrary and often superficial symbols and rituals that come to be associated with them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:24:04am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People who do not grasp the underlying concept behind things like patriotism, manhood or religion are the ones who cling the closest to the arbitrary and often superficial symbols and rituals that come to be associated with them.

Oh yeah for sure. I’m just saying that even conservatives when the game is being played at a home or a bar aren’t exactly being gung ho patriotic during the national anthem. I always stand when I’m actually present for a game but I’ve never seen these people rage at people who buying concessions when the anthem is playing but then again they’re not black athletes making them uncomfortable and conservatives hate being uncomfortable with reality.

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lizardofid  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:25:03am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I’d rather be a “big city liberal” than a close minded small town conservative. I in fact do live in a small and fairly rural town.

You bet, but it’s such a distortion of fact anyway. It’s possible to be for a thoughtful, humane immigration policy, without advocating “open borders”. But, as I’m sure you understand, he just want’s to frame it that way to rile up the base.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:25:33am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:28:48am

re: #94 lizardofid

You bet, but it’s such a distortion of fact anyway. It’s possible to be for a thoughtful, humane immigration policy, without advocating “open borders”. But, as I’m sure you understand, he just want’s to frame it that way to rile up the base.

Of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:38:03am

re: #95 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, lil Muhammad, back when the kuffar ran things, they stitched up filthy pig skins, moved them around painted lines, and shoved each other. There was secular music and alcohol -
A very haram affair!

Football: The very epitome of American values
Islam: the very antithesis of American values

/

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:40:23am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I’d rather be a “big city liberal” than a close minded small town conservative. I in fact do live in a small and fairly rural town.

I have lived in both and will always choose living in and being a “big city liberal”. The reality of progressive/progress vs. regressive couldn’t be more obvious after spending significant times in both.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:41:06am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, lil Muhammad, back when the kuffar ran things, they stitched up filthy pig skins, moved them around painted lines, and shoved each other. There was secular music and alcohol -
A very haram affair!

Football: The very epitome of American values
Islam: the very antithesis of American values

/

National anthems aren’t secular.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:42:00am

Grandpa, what’s a Breitbart?

Oh Billy, just a place where old farts would go and complain about feminists and plastic coffee cups while at the same time portraying themselves as Alpha males.

Sounds pretty weird, Grandpa.

It was Billy but you never saw a group of manbabies led by a pock faced drunk respond to a black man’s presidency.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:44:07am

Dickhead Donny attempted to insult Adam Schiff and Twitter responded hilariously:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:44:20am

re: #99 Belafon

National anthems aren’t secular.

I think they’re referring to Timberlake but more over do these people not know that there are Muslims in football. Like it took an astounding amount of stupidity even for Breitbart to write that especially because it implies to me that they think we’re going to go Sharia Law. So much for MAGA!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:45:07am

re: #101 Dr. Matt

Dickhead Donny attempted to insult Adam Schiff and Twitter responded hilariously:

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Someone really should change his phone and or Twitter password just to fuck with him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:45:29am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I think they’re referring to Timberlake but more over do these people not know that there are Muslims in football. Like it took an astounding amount of stupidity even for Breitbart to write that especially because it implies to me that they think we’re going to go Sharia Law. So much for MAGA!

Sharia and halal are just bugaboo words designed to evoke a knee-jerk reaction from their readership.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:46:19am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I think they’re referring to Timberlake but more over do these people not know that there are Muslims in football. Like it took an astounding amount of stupidity even for Breitbart to write that especially because it implies to me that they think we’re going to go Sharia Law. So much for MAGA!

I know. I was just making a personal observation. National anthems, especially when they get to the point that people use them as clubs to beat people with, have crossed the line into religious music in my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:46:50am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sharia and halal are just bugaboo words designed to evoke a knee-jerk reaction from their readership.

Of course. The name Muhammad too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:47:13am

re: #105 Belafon

I know. I was just making a personal observation. National anthems, especially when they get to the point that people use them as clubs to beat people with, have crossed the line into religious music in my opinion.

Oh for sure. No argument with that at all.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:51:10am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:52:09am

re: #108 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I was totally thinking about Obama when the Steelers beat the Cardinals in 09. Mikey’s going to lose it when he finds out that at least two Eagles won’t visit the WH.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:56:16am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:02:22am

I’m imagining Trump tweets from a prison cell.

FOOD IS AWFUL HERE, NO ONE VISITS ME, WARDEN IS A LOSER!

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:03:30am

re: #86 JordanRules

Gotta love this. Trump statement about universal health care:

Nigel Farage, the Trump-supporting British politician, had appeared on the show to execute a two-pronged attack on the National Health Service and immigration:

“Well the big problem we’ve got is a population crisis caused by government policy on immigration,” Farage said. […]

“The National Health Service has turned into the International Health Service and we’re providing a lot of healthcare for people coming into Britain from all over the world. We do need some absolutely fundamental reforms. This system we have was set up in 1948. Surprisingly for a state-run thing for most of the first fifty years the public had great faith in it. Right now it’s pretty much at breaking point.”

Farage was attempting a sophisticated dual move, using the NHS to show that Britain can’t afford immigrants and using the underfunding of the NHS to argue that the system is doomed rather than in need of support. And there’s reason to believe Farage was a little too complex, because faced with this take, Trump went after universal health care rather than after immigration, despite Trump’s general hatred of immigrants and the fact that the U.S. does not have a national health service to attack.

The other problem here, of course, is that the thousands of people marching in the U.K. over health care are angry about underfunding of the NHS by the conservative government, not about it being “really bad and non-personal medical care.” They like it! They want more of it! And they’re not blaming immigrants. Not that you’d know that from watching Fox & Friends, let alone reading Trump’s half-digested version of Fox & Friends “truth.”

Two things at the same time? Too complex for Trump.

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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:03:37am

re: #101 Dr. Matt

What is Lamebrain Littlefinger even talking about? As far as I know, Schiff hasn’t been leaking things even when sorely provoked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:04:16am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I’m imagining Trump tweets from a prison cell.

FOOD IS AWFUL HERE, NO ONE VISITS ME, WARDEN IS A LOSER!

Trump will convert one of his resorts to a private prison and get one of the judges he has appointed to sentence him to do his time there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:05:23am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will convert one of his resorts to a private prison and get one of the judges he has appointed to sentence him to do his time there.

They wouldn’t let a judge he appointed sentence him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:05:55am

re: #113 Weaselone

What is Lamebrain Littlefinger even talking about? As far as I know, Schiff hasn’t been leaking things even when sorely provoked.

Just cranky. He’s probably sad that the Patriots lost too.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:08:27am

re: #113 Weaselone

What is Lamebrain Littlefinger even talking about? As far as I know, Schiff hasn’t been leaking things even when sorely provoked.

Evidently, FOX and Friends has been attacking Adam Schiff this morning.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:09:23am

theundefeated.com

MINNEAPOLIS — It seems almost too Hollywoodesque that in the year of protest in the NFL, perhaps the league’s most socially conscious team would finish on top.

That players who have been at the forefront of the new civil rights movement would help lead the way to a franchise’s first Super Bowl title.

And that after selflessly helping others, those players would be rewarded with more than they could have envisioned.

But the hard-to-believe ending became reality Sunday night as the underdog Philadelphia Eagles defeated the New England Patriots, 41-33, at U.S. Bank Stadium.

As green confetti fell to the field, it sank in that safety Malcolm Jenkins, defensive end Chris Long and wide receiver Torrey Smith had delivered all season both on behalf of their teammates in the locker room as well as people in underprivileged communities. That’s called winning on and off the field.

Although many Eagles players were active in trying to make a difference out there, Jenkins, Long and Smith set the tone through their work with the Players Coalition, the main group of players who protested during the national anthem to shine a light on racial injustice.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:09:41am

re: #117 Renaissance_Man

Evidently, FOX and Friends has been attacking Adam Schiff this morning.

That makes sense.

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jeffreyw  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:10:07am

re: #79 William Lewis

Bobcat! Nice!

We’ve had the ‘cats around for a long time, but they’re so elusive that I’ve only ever seen them in trail camera shots. Mrs J had the bejeezus scared out of her when she walked the dogs one morning and caught one napping in the honeysuckle.

Imgur

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:10:18am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I’m imagining Trump tweets from a prison cell.

FOOD IS AWFUL HERE, NO ONE VISITS ME, WARDEN IS A LOSERLOOSER!

ftfy

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Sea Mexican!  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:11:18am

re: #98 Dr. Matt

I have lived in both and will always choose living in and being a “big city liberal”. The reality of progressive/progress vs. regressive couldn’t be more obvious after spending significant times in both.

I might be a big city liberal, but I can’t stand to live long in big cities. It just … too much stress for me. Of course, if I had no other choice, I’d have to adapt.

To be fair, I haven’t been to many big cities. San Juan, NY, Dallas, and Houston. I only see myself living in Dallas. And Fayeteville, Arkansas. But that’s a small town.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:12:04am

re: #121 Shropshire Slasher

ftfy

Yeah needed one misspelling in there.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:12:28am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Someone really should change his phone and or Twitter password just to fuck with him.

Change it to “Hillary2016.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:13:21am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

Change it to “Hillary2016.”

“Hillarywinsby2millionvotes”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:13:22am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

Change it to “Hillary2016.”

or Therewascollusion.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:14:14am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Hillarywinsby2millionvotes”

Closer to 3 million. We really want to get under his thinnest of thin skin.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:15:20am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Closer to 3 million. We really want to get under his thinnest of thin skin.

“Stormywasnotimpressed”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:16:54am

re: #128 wheat-dogg

“Stormywasnotimpressed”

Notastablegenius

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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:17:31am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Pelosi4Speaker

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jeffreyw  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:17:49am

re: #87 lizardofid

Great photo. Even without scale, me thinks that would be a large one around these parts.

I agree, he’s a good sized fellow.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:20:14am

re: #130 Weaselone

Pelosi4Speaker

Littlesharkhands

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:21:52am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will convert one of his resorts to a private prison and get one of the judges he has appointed to sentence him to do his time there.

With Staff. And his kids.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:22:36am

TheFBI1sWatchingU

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:22:55am

re: #133 austin_blue

With Staff. And his kids.

If his kids are there, we can build that wall.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:23:51am

The Silence in glow in the dark PVA.

My S8s camera is not good in low light.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:26:55am

OK, ignoring reality today.
Been watching latest Transformers movie. What a massive waste of resources and time.
I’m left to assume this garbage is the work of a collection of idiots, with the severest cases of ADHD ever encountered, all mainlining Meth and Red Bull
I feel embarrassed for Anthony Hopkins

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:27:26am

re: #136 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Silence in glow in the dark PVA.

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My S8s camera is not good in low light.

Why do I have the X- Files theme as an earworm all of a sudden?

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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:27:32am

re: #134 Belafon

IResignEffective01202017

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:28:40am

re: #117 Renaissance_Man

Evidently, FOX and Friends has been attacking Adam Schiff this morning.

Yeah, I flipped through and saw that they gave a long interview with Nunes where he doubled down on the memo and ‘some things said by a drunken guy in London.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:29:16am

re: #137 FormerDirtDart

OK, ignoring reality today.
Been watching latest Transformers movie. What a massive waste of resources and time.

basing movies on comic books is almost high art these days, we have movies based on board games, toys and Animatronic Disnelyand rides.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:29:16am

A headline like this under President Obama would have received non-stop coverage for weeks by the MSM and breathless outrage from the GOP/Nazis.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:29:22am

I think JeffFX has been abducted by aliens and he is trying to warn us all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:30:32am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

A headline like this under President Obama would have received non-stop coverage for weeks by the MSM and breathless outrage from the GOP/Nazis.

The GOP/U.S. government is set to borrow nearly $1 trillion this year, an 84% INCREASE from last year.

and this will only increase as the tax cuts start to bite

only one answer: cut spending!

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:31:53am

Forgive me, but I’m thinking “Die Hard with a Prosthetic Leg.”

Skyscraper - Official Trailer [HD]

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:32:05am

You know you are insanely rich when you launch your effing car into space in order to orbit Mars.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:35:51am

re: #145 wheat-dogg

Forgive me, but I’m thinking “Die Hard with a Prosthetic Leg.”

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Video

With shades of The Matrix and Mission Impossible thrown in.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:35:58am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

basing movies on comic books is almost high art these days, we have movies based on board games, toys and Animatronic Disnelyand rides.

have not movies been re-adaptions of someones “stories” for ages? I have no problem with movies based on comics. I just ask that if I have to break concentration for a minute or two I’m not completely lost when I re-engage.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:36:37am

re: #146 Shropshire Slasher

You know you are insanely rich when you launch your effing car into space in order to orbit Mars.

Possibly, but it’s still cheaper than first sending a person into orbit around Mars.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:38:21am

re: #145 wheat-dogg

Forgive me, but I’m thinking “Die Hard with a Prosthetic Leg.”

I was thinking “Die Hard/Towering Inferno with a Prosthetic Leg”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:40:03am

re: #148 FormerDirtDart

have not movies been re-adaptions of someones “stories” for ages? I have no problem with movies based on comics. I just ask that if I have to break concentration for a minute or two I’m not completely lost when I re-engage.

I cannot deny that some of those have some merit but I was never into superhero comics as a kid, those things leave me totally uninterested.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:41:10am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought Gilgamesh was a pretty interesting story.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:45:53am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:47:21am

re: #145 wheat-dogg

Forgive me, but I’m thinking “Die Hard with a Prosthetic Leg.”

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Video

“Die Hard With A Prosthetic Leg Meets The Towering Inferno”.

Still, I have to give Dwayne Johnson some credit….he’s certainly become the king of American action cinema.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:47:33am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

I was thinking “Die Hard/Towering Inferno with a Prosthetic Leg”

I’ll probably watch it but I’m not spending money for a theatre ticket to see it.

I have admit though to liking Johnson as an actor. He’s not Academy Award material, but he’s improved over the years.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:48:00am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

I was thinking “Die Hard/Towering Inferno with a Prosthetic Leg”

You beat me to it.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:52:18am

The stupid is strong in this one. Not to mention the insatiable need to lie. But I digress.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:53:47am

re: #112 Belafon

re: #86 JordanRules

Gotta love this. Trump statement about universal health care:

Nigel Farage, the Trump-supporting British politician, had appeared on the show to execute a two-pronged attack on the National Health Service and immigration:

“Well the big problem we’ve got is a population crisis caused by government policy on immigration,” Farage said. […]

“The National Health Service has turned into the International Health Service and we’re providing a lot of healthcare for people coming into Britain from all over the world. We do need some absolutely fundamental reforms. This system we have was set up in 1948. Surprisingly for a state-run thing for most of the first fifty years the public had great faith in it. Right now it’s pretty much at breaking point.”

Farage was attempting a sophisticated dual move, using the NHS to show that Britain can’t afford immigrants and using the underfunding of the NHS to argue that the system is doomed rather than in need of support. And there’s reason to believe Farage was a little too complex, because faced with this take, Trump went after universal health care rather than after immigration, despite Trump’s general hatred of immigrants and the fact that the U.S. does not have a national health service to attack.

The other problem here, of course, is that the thousands of people marching in the U.K. over health care are angry about underfunding of the NHS by the conservative government, not about it being “really bad and non-personal medical care.” They like it! They want more of it! And they’re not blaming immigrants. Not that you’d know that from watching Fox & Friends, let alone reading Trump’s half-digested version of Fox & Friends “truth.”

Two things at the same time? Too complex for Trump.

Also: I noticed Nigel chose Fox (presumably seen only over here) to spout this crap: I guess he knows that if he said stuff like this back home, a (very crowded) raft of people - people who know what they’re talking about - would be ripping him to shreds over it.

Hey! A benefit for international trade in the Trump era! “Biased forum for spreading right-wing lies” now a major American export product!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:54:37am

Schiff fires back:

I wonder how much worse the original tweet would have been if Schiff were black.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:54:52am

re: #71 A Mom Anon

People may have been turned off by the stories of CTE and other serious injuries. And not just that.

A couple weeks ago I saw a report about Aaron Hernandez’s head trauma. They showed his brain scans. It’s horrifying. He had been playing since middle school, his brain was shrunken and whole sections were destroyed. I cried when I saw that. If I had a son who loved football, I just don’t think I could support his playing. Not knowing what I know. And maybe people are just sick of all of it. The injuries, treating players like royalty and letting them get away with shitty things, the crappy tax deals for stadiums and the insane ticket prices, all of it.

Poor Breitbart Assholes, it’s always an assault on their manhood. Snowflakes.

CTE is the reason I stopped watching football. Can’t cheer a game where any hit - especially a concussion could doom a player to CTE, which messes with their brain chemistry/structure to the point of mental illness and personality changes that could lead to death or other serious harms/issues.

We saw a hit just like that last night - a Patriots player got laid out in a clean hit. Guy was blindsided and was knocked flat out.

I can’t in good consicence cheer that. I appreciate the athleticism involved in the game, but the consequences of 300 pounders traveling 4.5 (or 200 pound players going even faster) at each other is impossible to ignore. It’s physics - the body in motion stays in motion - and the brain sloshes around after every hit.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:55:23am

re: #155 wheat-dogg

I’ll probably watch it but I’m not spending money for a theatre ticket to see it.

I have admit though to liking Johnson as an actor. He’s not Academy Award material, but he’s improved over the years.

Yeah, I remember feeling he had done a decent job in The Rundown and the in Be Cool

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:56:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:56:57am

re: #160 lawhawk

I can’t in good consicence cheer that. I appreciate the athleticism involved in the game, but the consequences of 300 pounders traveling 4.5 (or 200 pound players going even faster) at each other is impossible to ignore. It’s physics - the body in motion stays in motion - and the brain sloshes around after every hit.

For all the precision ballet of a good running and passing game, I still cannot get over the level of brain-crunching brutality on the line of scrimmage.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:57:29am

re: #157 MsJ

The stupid is strong in this one. Not to mention the insatiable need to lie. But I digress.

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Sounds more like Sarah just inadvertently stupidly leaked some previously confidential Executive-Branch information: i.e. details of the WH SB betting pool….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:57:42am

re: #162 lawhawk

This is not normal. This is how awful Trump and GOP are. They’re using shutdown as sabotage.

If you proceed from the premise that government is bad, then you cheer any group of people who damage it

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:59:40am
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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:01:59am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP have made government the enemy - taxes are awful, provision of basic services are awful, and the consequences of those two regressive beliefs is that tax cuts are the only solution, which causes a cycle of devolution:

1) massive tax cuts
2) gut safety net services and basic government services;
3) more tax cuts;
4) people complain that services aren’t doing their purposes;
5) more tax cuts.

Rinse and repeat. The GOP end-game is to simultaneously gut functioning government and to make government so small that it fits in bedrooms and bathrooms to impose their policy determinations on everyone (birth control, abortion, transgender bathroom bills, etc.) while opening the door to a surge in bigotry and discrimination sanctioned by the state. Throw in voter suppression to make sure that their policy choices are not easily overturned, and packing the courts with reactionary extremists, and it’s a recipe for disaster.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:05:00am

re: #167 lawhawk

The GOP have made government the enemy

And the professionals we have hired to work for the government - people whose careers span more than one administration, people who are charged with maintaining institutions and processes - are all portrayed as malicious deep-state operatives whose only task is to confound the President and make him look bad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:06:02am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tell me about it…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:10:00am

re: #157 MsJ

The stupid is strong in this one. Not to mention the insatiable need to lie. But I digress.

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I mean those people she tweeted at are Eagles fans but yeah seems odd not to congratulate the team too.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:13:36am

So, Philly had riots. Cars overturned. Vandalism. Arson. Property damage.

New England had riots. More of the same (mostly devoid of riots - that’s one hell of a spin there).

Both were sports related.

All those concern trolls who complain when legit protests of racial discrimination and police brutality block roads are curiously absent from the criticism over rioting, vandalism, and criminal activities in both cities as a result of a goddamned sporting event.

It’s mighty white of them.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:14:24am

God damn every one of these people, this maladministration and anyone and everything trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:14:43am
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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:18:15am

re: #171 lawhawk

New England had riots? I hadn’t heard of anything in Boston when I went to bed. I know about Umass Amherst. Were their others?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:19:12am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

Doritos to make ‘lady-friendly’ chips that don’t crunch for women

How does it know it’s being eaten by a woman?

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:19:14am
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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:19:50am

re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

How does it know it’s being eaten by a woman?

What makes them think we “ladies” don’t like stuff that goes crunch? That’s just…really weird.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:20:11am

re: #174 Weaselone

Think it was just the UMASS Amherst situation. Just….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:20:51am

re: #177 MsJ

What makes them think we “ladies” don’t like stuff that goes crunch? That’s just…really weird.

Crunching is obviously not lady-like.
/

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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:21:07am

re: #178 lawhawk

Think it was just the UMASS Amherst situation. Just….

Yeah. I went to bed thinking that given Boston was quiet, we were good to go and then I take a quick look at 7 News and WTF?

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:21:22am

The folks at Lawfareblog got hold of over 100 emails from upper-level FBI from the day that Comey was fired through FOIA. Unsurprisingly, they were uniformly “gut punched’ by the news as the emails reveal. Trump and SHS talked openly about how Comey was disliked by the rank and file. Nothing could be further than the truth. Of Course.

lawfareblog.com

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BlueGrl21  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:22:08am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For all the precision ballet of a good running and passing game, I still cannot get over the level of brain-crunching brutality on the line of scrimmage.

About 5 years ago I declared I would never attend or view a football game again. I could not stand the violence, especially at younger levels. Since my husband is a high school basketball coach that is informally expected to attend school football games, I made things very inconvenient with my protest.

Then a whole lot of high school football players got killed that summer. And more information came out about CTE and the fact the NFL had covered it up. He’s at the point now where watching football is rare and he will not attend a high school game. I said, “How would you feel if you were watching when one of your students went down with a head injury or worse?”

We’re in Texas and football is king and some of our friends still want their kids playing football. Most of them are %<*! Texas Aggies. Seriously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:23:37am

LOL

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:26:22am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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What has he had to “endure” other than being made fun of on Twitter?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:27:52am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Yeah poor Devin Nunes. He’s up there with MLK, Lincoln, and George Washington.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:28:10am

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

What has he had to “endure” other than being made fun of on Twitter?

The horror of actually being called out on his bullshit memo.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:28:38am

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

What has he had to “endure” other than being made fun of on Twitter?

He’s had to put in extra effort to obstruct an investigation by a committee he’s recused himself from.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:30:03am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:32:04am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:32:55am
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:33:39am

re: #71 A Mom Anon

People may have been turned off by the stories of CTE and other serious injuries. And not just that.

A couple weeks ago I saw a report about Aaron Hernandez’s head trauma. They showed his brain scans. It’s horrifying. He had been playing since middle school, his brain was shrunken and whole sections were destroyed. I cried when I saw that. If I had a son who loved football, I just don’t think I could support his playing. Not knowing what I know. And maybe people are just sick of all of it. The injuries, treating players like royalty and letting them get away with shitty things, the crappy tax deals for stadiums and the insane ticket prices, all of it.

Poor Breitbart Assholes, it’s always an assault on their manhood. Snowflakes.

Wait until they do an autopsy of OJ. I am sure that it will show a similar level of damage as Hernandez.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:34:05am
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:37:17am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

A headline like this under President Obama would have received non-stop coverage for weeks by the MSM and breathless outrage from the GOP/Nazis.

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The GOP does not care about deficits as long as they are funding tax cuts for the rich. They only care if the deficits might help people who are not wealthy. And Trump probably thinks the US can just declare bankruptcy and walk away from its debts. That worked out well for him

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:37:37am

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

What has he had to “endure” other than being made fun of on Twitter?

facing the consequences of his words and actions…the worst possible punishment for the arrogant and entitled

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:37:54am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Yeah poor Devin Nunes. He’s up there with MLK, Lincoln, and George Washington.

The names Benedict Arnold, Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, come to mind before the ones you mentioned.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:38:36am

re: #192 MsJ

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Jesus told her to take the money on the DL…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:40:59am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump probably thinks the US can just declare bankruptcy and walk away from its debts. That worked out well for him

He broached that option one in one of his offhand comments. Remember, China’s largest credit rating agency has already downgraded US securities, citing “political deficiencies”.

Yes, we can just do the Trump thing: declare bankruptcy and offer pennies on the dollar - take it or leave it: at which point we would find ourselves downgraded to a rating alongside Kenya or Greece and have to pay premium interest rates to borrow anything.

Or is that what he really intends to do?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:41:07am

re: #190 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Dude you’re a fucking Trump toady, shut the hell up. You work for the agenda of a man who is up Putin’s ass.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:41:28am

re: #195 Eventual Carrion

The names Benedict Arnold, Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, come to mind before the ones you mentioned.

Should have included a sarc tag.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:45:36am

re: #192 MsJ

I’m really curious to see if the PA GOP can hold off the redrawing of maps until AFTER the November vote. God knows they are doing as much as they can to try

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:46:36am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Should have included a sarc tag.

np, I knew where you were coming from. :-)

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:48:29am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He broached that option one in one of his offhand comments. Remember, China’s largest credit rating agency has already downgraded US securities, citing “political deficiencies”.

Yes, we can just do the Trump thing: declare bankruptcy and offer pennies on the dollar - take it or leave it: at which point we would find ourselves downgraded to a rating alongside Kenya or Greece and have to pay premium interest rates to borrow anything.

Or is that what he really intends to do?

I’m sure that he thinks he can do that. However, no matter how disgraceful and criminal his economic team, they are all smart enough to stop him from trying this. Of course, his real boss Putin might persuade him that it’s a good idea to announce this plan.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:49:45am

I think I ate too much yesterday.

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scottslemmons  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:51:08am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, we can just do the Trump thing: declare bankruptcy and offer pennies on the dollar - take it or leave it: at which point we would find ourselves downgraded to a rating alongside Kenya or Greece and have to pay premium interest rates to borrow anything.

Or is that what he really intends to do?

Yes.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:52:28am
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:49am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Yeah poor Devin Nunes. He’s up there with MLK, Lincoln, and George Washington.

re: #195 Eventual Carrion

oops totally missed that just upthread

So busted…

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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:52am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

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So, stale chips for the wimmins?

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:54:14am

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m really curious to see if the PA GOP can hold off the redrawing of maps until AFTER the November vote. God knows they are doing as much as they can to try

Not just PA if the SCOTUS weighs in in the GOP’s favor. Several republican secretaries of state are joining in the fun.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:55:01am
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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:55:41am

re: #206 Unshaken Defiance

Just so everyone’s clear who was attending this shitshow:

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meteor  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:57:48am
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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:58:32am

re: #158 Jay C

Also: I noticed Nigel chose Fox (presumably seen only over here) to spout this crap: I guess he knows that if he said stuff like this back home, a (very crowded) raft of people - people who know what they’re talking about - would be ripping him to shreds over it.

Hey! A benefit for international trade in the Trump era! “Biased forum for spreading right-wing lies” now a major American export product!!

He’s leaving out the part that his biggest Brexit campaign promise (painted on the side of a bus that he drove around to his rallies and parked by the stage) was that if Brexit passed they’d put another £350 million a year into NHS.

The day after the vote, he said “oh, well, we didn’t really mean that”…

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:00:04am

re: #212 sagehen

He’s leaving out the part that his biggest Brexit campaign promise (painted on the side of a bus that he drove around to his rallies and parked by the stage) was that if Brexit passed they’d put another £350 million a year into NHS.

The day after the vote, he said “oh, well, we didn’t really mean that”…

L350 Million a WEEK. (sorry, I don’t know how to do the Pound sign so I used L.)

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:05:26am
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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:05:43am

re: #213 MsJ

L350 Million a WEEK. (sorry, I don’t know how to do the Pound sign so I used L.)

(alt/option) and (3/#) keys at the same time.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:05:50am

re: #213 MsJ

L350 Million a WEEK. (sorry, I don’t know how to do the Pound sign so I used L.)

Copy the £ from the comment you replied to.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:08:39am

re: #215 sagehen

(alt/option) and (3/#) keys at the same time.

You have to have the international keyboard settings enabled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:08:47am

re: #213 MsJ

L350 Million a WEEK. (sorry, I don’t know how to do the Pound sign so I used L.)

yes, they “promised” 50 million pounds per day…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:13:02am

re: #211 meteor

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:13:04am

“…Oh, and the e-mails also provide further evidence that Sarah Huckabee Sanders is an utterly truthless drone whose daily briefings are unworthy of serious attention. At the time Comey was fired, the White House line, peddled by SarahHuck and by the vulgar talking yam for whom she works, was that agents in the Bureau had “lost confidence” in Comey’s leadership. (At the time, the president*, of course, would undercut his own outrageous lie by telling Lester Holt that he canned Comey over the Russia thing.) These e-mails show a sense of outrage among the grunts in the field offices on whose behalf Sanders and Trump presumed to speak.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:13:36am
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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:13:57am

re: #213 MsJ

L350 Million a WEEK. (sorry, I don’t know how to do the Pound sign so I used L.)

Pound comes from the Roman Libra so all the symbol is a fancy L

L = pound = Libra
S = Shilling = Solidus
D = pence = Denarius

20 shillings to the pound, 12 pence to the shilling or 240 pence to the pound. We kept all the other weird measurements, pity Jefferson got us decimal money…

Sorry for the digression.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:14:42am

re: #213 MsJ

L350 Million a WEEK. (sorry, I don’t know how to do the Pound sign so I used L.)

Also: if you’re using a Windows-based system, try Alt - 0163 (or copy-and-paste from Character Map if you have it)

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:16:45am

re: #217 Belafon

You have to have the international keyboard settings enabled.

Good to know…I was about to play finger twister on my keyboard. :-D

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:18:15am

re: #215 sagehen

(alt/option) and (3/#) keys at the same time.

If you are in windows it is: hold down the ALT key and while you’re holding it down type in 0163 on the keypad to get £.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:18:33am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:20:02am

re: #225 ObserverArt

If you are in windows it is: hold down the ALT key and while you’re holding it down type in 0163 on the keypad to get £.

Thanks. It doesn’t appear until you release the Alt. That one works. Like I’ll remember 0163, though.

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:21:15am

re: #225 ObserverArt

If you are in windows it is: hold down the ALT key and while you’re holding it down type in 0163 on the keypad to get £.

I have a Mac, all with original default settings.

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Weaselone  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:21:16am

re: #226 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Nah. Tucker comes from money by way of his stepmother.

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:23:45am

re: #229 Weaselone

Nah. Tucker comes from money by way of his stepmother.

And political connections by way of his father (Voice of America director during the Reagan years).

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:28:42am

Trump lies about everything.

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Citizen K  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:29:18am

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

Late to the party but…did anyone ever tell these twitwits that “pigskins” were never pigskins…and by the time American Football actually became a thing, they were pretty much always rubber and cowhide?

Just saying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:29:31am

re: #222 William Lewis

Pound comes from the Roman Libra so all the symbol is a fancy L

L = pound = Libra
S = Shilling = Solidus
D = pence = Denarius

20 shillings to the pound, 12 pence to the shilling or 240 pence to the pound. We kept all the other weird measurements, pity Jefferson got us decimal money…

Sorry for the digression.

and don’t forget the guinea, it consisted of 21 shillings, it was used for big-ticket items like race horses, furs and jewelry.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:29:52am

re: #230 sagehen

And political connections by way of his father (Voice of America director during the Reagan years).

Yet he cries about elites on a network owned by a billionaire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:30:05am

re: #232 Citizen K

Late to the party but…did anyone ever tell these twitwits that “pigskins” were never pigskins…and by the time American Football actually became a thing, they were pretty much always rubber and cowhide?

Just saying.

that is irrelevant, it is about pissing off liberals and muslims

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:33:03am

Who said that nothing good could come from a Trump presidency?

thehill.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:33:21am

re: #227 Belafon

Thanks. It doesn’t appear until you release the Alt. That one works. Like I’ll remember 0163, though.

Here is a link to a chart of windows alt characters. Print it out and keep it around your keyboard.

I have a nice character chart I got years ago with CorelDraw. It has been handy all along.

ALT+NUMPAD ASCII Key Combos

Use the Window’s ANSI/ISO Latin-1/ANSI Extended ASCII side. Always hold down the ALT key while typing in the number code, and as you say, as soon as you release the ALT key the special character will appear.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:33:54am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is irrelevant, it is about pissing off liberals and muslims

Yet it just made us laugh because of how stupid it was even by Breitbart standards. They should spend less time trying to piss off liberals and more of something more constructive.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:34:14am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:34:40am

IT WAS ALL A RESEARCH PROJECT!!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:35:02am

re: #239 jaunte

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Not only that but opp research started by their own party.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:35:18am

Digby:

“…Over the course of the last few days, legal experts patiently explained that the motivation of informants and sources is not relevant to the question of whether the information they provide is true. Cases are made every single day on the basis of testimony and evidence provided by people whose motives are anything but pure: gangsters, jailhouse snitches, angry spouses, whatever. It’s not as if the authorities just take their word for it. Information has to be corroborated, and apparently the FISA warrant application process is particularly demanding in that regard.

Nonetheless, Trump and his loyalists are arguing that any Democratic member of the government bureaucracy is automatically suspect, and any information that comes from a Democratic partisan must be immediately discounted as unreliable. This is very interesting, considering Republicans’ partisan history of feeding information to law enforcement and special counsels.”

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Interesting Times  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:35:58am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:36:41am

re: #239 jaunte

Yeah, the GOP has never done oppo research.

//

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:37:14am

There was a lot of comments last evening during the Superb Owl game and I don’t have time to go back through them. What was the overall feeling of Justin Timberlake’s halftime gig?

My take…I was not impressed.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:38:10am
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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:39:47am

re: #245 ObserverArt

There was a lot of comments last evening during the Superb Owl game and I don’t have time to go back through them. What was the overall feeling of Justin Timberlake’s halftime gig?

My take…I was not impressed.

IIRC, “not impressed” was one of the more positive reviews of the SB LII halftime show….

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:39:54am

re: #246 jaunte

Couldn’t even get four judges.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:40:48am

re: #209 jaunte

Rudolph Contreras was the FISA Judge who issued a warrant to spy on Carter Page because of a Yahoo News article and a Phony Dossier. Guess who appointed Contreras to the FISA Court? Barack Hussein Obama

Why does this matter, though? Was there anything about Page that warranted investigation? (hint: yes) Did the wiretapping reveal anything about Trump, cause Donny Junior to meet at the Trump Tower with Russian representatives, cause Flynn to lie about his Russian contacts, etc?

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Citizen K  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:41:27am

re: #247 Jay C

Which of course meant that the commentators slavered over it later.

No, seriously, they praised the game by saying ‘it might have even been better than the halftime show’. And their tone made it clear that it was meant to be praise.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:41:41am

re: #249 Sir John Barron

All true, but that nazi Wohl wants someone to attack the judge.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:41:52am

re: #246 jaunte

Thought the PA GOP had decided to just ignore the Court?

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:42:23am

re: #252 Sir John Barron

They might.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:42:32am

re: #251 jaunte

All true, but that nazi Wohl wants someone to attack the judge.

And as other’s pointed out (I didn’t know this), SCOTUS Roberts actually made the appointment to the FISA court, not Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:43:06am

re: #254 Barefoot Grin

And as other’s pointed out (I didn’t know this), SCOTUS Roberts actually made the appointment to the FISA court, not Obama.

Which really blows a hole in Wohl’s stupid conspiracy.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:43:15am

re: #231 jaunte

Trump lies about everything.

You know who’s an expert on the NHS? DJT. Believe me.

/

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:44:30am

re: #254 Barefoot Grin

And as other’s pointed out (I didn’t know this), SCOTUS Roberts actually made the appointment to the FISA court, not Obama.

Yeah but Deep State, secret society, etc.
//

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:44:34am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

After so many words, his basic argument comes down to “a regulated industry” (water and electricity) “can’t impose rights on my speech, but a private corporation can. Why isn’t the ACLU defending” (my nonexistent) “freeze peach right?”

Good Cthulhu, he’s a moron.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:45:27am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

He’s giving his stock answer when confronted with being exposed for his baffling BS and bigotry: He’s exploring different views.

No. He’s a goddamned white supremacist who hangs with like minded thugs and hooligans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:45:34am

$41,400

that’s how much the emergency Air Evac helicopter trip cost.

sigh

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:46:17am

re: #237 ObserverArt

Here is a link to a chart of windows alt characters. Print it out and keep it around your keyboard.

I have a nice character chart I got years ago with CorelDraw. It has been handy all along.

ALT+NUMPAD ASCII Key Combos.

What is this “print” thing you refer to…? /

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:46:27am

Since the Ryan “$1.50” idiocy (and Daughter1’s trending hashtag) Iron Stache raised 130,000 in the first day. Half of the donations were $1.50.

The #withabuckfiftyaweek tag faded a bit over the SuperBowl, but is still drawing.

thehill.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:46:32am

re: #259 lawhawk

He’s giving his stock answer when confronted with being exposed for his baffling BS and bigotry: He’s exploring different views.

No. He’s a goddamned white supremacist who hangs with like minded thugs and hooligans.

He knows he’s in the spotlight since Gaetz made him his guest. Rage Furby is scared.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:47:16am

re: #246 jaunte

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That’s huge.

People don’t quite get how important that was.

GOP was hoping to thwart the will of the people and maintain a gerrymandered map so that they could steal at least a few more seats from geographical regions that, if mapped in a nonpartisan manner, should have resulted in more Democrats getting elected to office based on vote distributions.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:47:20am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

Since the Ryan “$1.50” idiocy (and Daughter1’s trending hashtag) Iron Stache raided 130,000 in the first day. Half of the donations were $1.50.

The #withabuckfiftyaweek tag faded a bit over the SuperBowl, but is still drawing.

thehill.com

Man I would love to see Ryan lose. That’d be a huge win and probably a hint that the whole House would be flipped.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:48:15am

re: #209 jaunte

Rudolph Contreras was the FISA Judge who issued a warrant to spy on Carter Page because of a Yahoo News article and a Phony Dossier. Guess who appointed Contreras to the FISA Court? Barack Hussein Obama. pic.twitter.com

— Jacob Wohl

Maybe Trump shouldn’t have begged Russia to hack Hillary’s emails, maybe Donny Junior shouldn’t have met with Russian representatives to get “dirt” on Hillary, maybe Trump representatives shouldn’t have changed the language regarding Ukraine in the GOP platform in 2016, etc, etc.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:48:29am

re: #243 Interesting Times

Unless they’re black or other minorities, or they suspect that there are illegal aliens involved, or Muslims.

You know - all the targets of Trump ire.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:48:36am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

$41,400

that’s how much the emergency Air Evac helicopter trip cost.

sigh

Many of our Army pilots from Ft Rucker retire young into Life Flights. Aside from cropdusting, it’s about the most dangerous flying out there.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:49:06am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:49:44am

re: #266 Sir John Barron

Maybe Trump shouldn’t have begged Russia to hack Hillary’s emails, maybe Donny Junior should have met with Russian representatives to get “dirt” on Hillary, maybe Trump representatives shouldn’t have changed the language regarding Ukraine in the GOP platform in 2016, etc, etc.

Seriously. They complain about FBI bias against him. He kind of fucking earned that through his actions. Yes, they’re professionals but they’re human beings too who saw a presidential nominee beg Wikileaks to hack his opponent’s emails.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:50:00am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Man I would love to see Ryan lose. That’d be a huge win and probably a hint that the whole House would be flipped.

His chances are not good, but they are better than Doug Jones’.

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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:50:49am

re: #268 Decatur Deb

Many of our Army pilots from Ft Rucker retire young into Life Flights. Aside from cropdusting, it’s about the most dangerous flying out there.

Which is why it astonishes me that Prince William was able to keep flying that mission for so long.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:51:01am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

$41,400

that’s how much the emergency Air Evac helicopter trip cost.

sigh

That happened with my brother a few years ago. He was taken from the hospital he was in to The Cleveland Clinic.

And then there was a huge battle over who was going to pay for it. His insurance (through of all people WalMart - his wife’s insurance) refused saying it was not needed and outside their normal coverage. It took him months to fight all that.

I sure hope it goes better for you and Mr. BWS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:51:06am

re: #268 Decatur Deb

Many of our Army pilots from Ft Rucker retire young into Life Flights. Aside from cropdusting, it’s about the most dangerous flying out there.

I’m still probably going to have to file for bankruptcy before this is all over.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:51:22am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Seriously. They complain about FBI bias against him. He kind of fucking earned that through his actions. Yes, they’re professionals but they’re human beings too who saw a presidential nominee beg Wikileaks to hack his opponent’s emails.

Our man Trump was just campaigning, minding his own business, when our corrupt Deep State secret society of FISA and FBI targeted Trump for no good reason! Bias!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:51:59am

re: #239 jaunte

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:52:01am

re: #237 ObserverArt

Here is a link to a chart of windows alt characters. Print it out and keep it around your keyboard.

I have that issue with my Cyrillic keyboard. I can change to it with the click of a button, but I cannot change my physical keyboard that easily, so I just printed out a reference chart.

the English and Russian C are identical, the rest is not at all

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:52:03am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

He knows he’s in the spotlight since Gaetz made him his guest. Rage Furby is scared.

Oh no! He’s not going scare himself shitless again is he?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:52:24am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Yet it just made us laugh because of how stupid it was even by Breitbart standards. They should spend less time trying to piss off liberals and more of something more constructive.

they look on pissing people off as a constructive thing to do

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:52:54am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

Since the Ryan “$1.50” idiocy (and Daughter1’s trending hashtag) Iron Stache raised 130,000 in the first day. Half of the donations were $1.50.

The #withabuckfiftyaweek tag faded a bit over the SuperBowl, but is still drawing.

thehill.com

Time to donate to @IronStache.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:54:17am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart

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That goes off tomorrow around 1:30 PM right?

I don’t want to miss that.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:55:10am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Man I would love to see Ryan lose. That’d be a huge win and probably a hint that the whole House would be flipped.

The odds of the House flipping are pretty good given who among the GOP are already indicating that they’re retiring/cashing out, and that the generic ballot is heavily favoring Democrats.

The PA redistricting case will certainly help as well.

There’s also the matter of GOPers in blue states who are in serious trouble, and if Democrats take a bunch of those seats, they could win back control of the House without even dipping into the red states.

That’s highly indicative of a blue wave. But it also means making and sustaining a GOTV and staying focused on what matters - getting Democrats elected at all levels and ensuring access to the polls. GOP thrives on voter apathy and vote suppression. That’s why they keep trying to beat people down and suppress turnout all while claiming voter fraud when they lose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:57:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:58:05am

re: #282 lawhawk

That’s highly indicative of a blue wave. But it also means making and sustaining a GOTV and staying focused on what matters - getting Democrats elected at all levels and ensuring access to the polls. GOP thrives on voter apathy and vote suppression. That’s why they keep trying to beat people down and suppress turnout all while claiming voter fraud when they lose.

That is one thing they could have counted on had Hillary won, but not any more. Apathy is the best form of voter suppression.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:59:40am
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:59:44am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

He knows he’s in the spotlight since Gaetz made him his guest. Rage Furby is scared.

Who cares if Furby is scared — it is Gaetz that I want terrified and destroyed. Perhaps a Democratic opponent that runs constant ads that Gaetz supports a Holocaust denier.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:59:49am

I think Trump really thinks laws don’t apply to him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:01:00am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

I think Trump really thinks laws don’t apply to him.

they do not unless Congress applies them

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:01:04am

re: #281 ObserverArt

That goes off tomorrow around 1:30 PM right?

I don’t want to miss that.

Launch window 1:30 - 4:30 PM ET

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:01:18am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is one thing they could have counted on had Hillary won, but not any more. Apathy is the best form of voter suppression.

I think there is great apathy in the GOP these days. Moore lost in part due to GOP voters sitting out.

There are a lot of GOPers unhappy with Trump and the GOPers standing with him.

I think the apathy in 2018 will be good for Dems.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:01:26am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

I think Trump really thinks laws don’t apply to him.

So far he has been free to ignore them and no one is stopping him. The entire Republican party is complicit.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:02:05am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still probably going to have to file for bankruptcy before this is all over.

What happened?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:02:11am

re: #286 Hecuba’s daughter

Who cares if Furby is scared — it is Gaetz that I want terrified and destroyed. Perhaps a Democratic opponent that runs constant ads that Gaetz supports a Holocaust denier.

Considering what CCJ has done I.e stalking a Congresswoman and getting death threats against BLM activists, I see no contradiction between wanting Gaetz to fall and him too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:03:21am

re: #292 Decatur Deb

What happened?

MrBWS had a heart attack and emergency bypass surgery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:04:11am

re: #290 MsJ

I think there is great apathy in the GOP these days. Moore lost in part due to GOP voters sitting out.

People who could bring themselves to vote for neither a pedophile nor a Democrat.

There was a large write-in vote for the AL Senate election, I am sure that most of those were Republicans of that category as well.

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Citizen K  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:04:38am

I….what.

If you’re talking about who you share a subway car with, you might have a point.

If you’re talking about actually sharing oppo research and making outright business deals, they holy shit yes you do choose who you interact with, you immensely dense fuck.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:04:52am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS had a heart attack and emergency bypass surgery.

Ouch. Doing OK?

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:04:53am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS had a heart attack and emergency bypass surgery.

Did they refuse to pay for it *already*?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:05:09am

For anyone in/around/knows someone in Philly:
Be On The Lookout

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:05:11am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still probably going to have to file for bankruptcy before this is all over.

I’ve been through a bankruptcy back in 2009 when the economic collapse hit me. I gave up my crappy underwater house and ditched a lot of credit card debt. I haven’t been in debt since.
It was a lot less stressful that I thought it would be. Moving was the only part that sucked.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:06:12am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People who could bring themselves to vote for neither a pedophile nor a Democrat.

There was a large write-in vote for the AL Senate election, I am sure that most of those were Republicans of that category as well.

True. But that is Alabama. We’ll likely see a surge in Dem votes in other states, specifically the so-called purple states, possibly even TX.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:06:40am

The big breaking news now from Fox is that Steele received info directly or indirectly from HRC campaign. Grassley and Graham to push for full investigation.

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:06:45am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:07:23am

re: #296 Citizen K

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I….what.

If you’re talking about who you share a subway car with, you might have a point.

If you’re talking about actually sharing oppo research and making outright business deals, they holy shit yes you do choose who you interact with, you immensely dense fuck.

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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:07:23am

This is interesting. Is this the GOP’s way of foisting the non-release of the Dem rebuttal squarely on Trump? Sorta looks like it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:08:18am

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Ouch. Doing OK?

He’s doing really great…much better than anyone expected.
And he is taking everything seriously, from dietary changes to exercise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:08:51am

re: #298 MsJ

Did they refuse to pay for it *already*?

Not yet…just a matter of time, however.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:09:06am

DJIA continues weeklong slide:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:09:31am

re: #304 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Yawn. Pathetic excuse.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:10:10am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not yet…just a matter of time, however.

Hang in there. I am glad he’s doing well and you can likely fight the insurance company. And I am so very sorry that you might even have to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:10:59am

re: #300 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’ve been through a bankruptcy back in 2009 when the economic collapse hit me. I gave up my crappy underwater house and ditched a lot of credit card debt. I haven’t been in debt since.
It was a lot less stressful that I thought it would be. Moving was the only part that sucked.

I have no debt, not even a mortgage.

Well, I do have hub’s medical debt now…

I hate this.

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dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:11:21am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

Doritos to make ‘lady-friendly’ chips that don’t crunch for women

the recipe is to just let em go soggy / stale before bagging

if it doesnt crunch it’s not a “chip”
(no dont go all british french fries on me)

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:11:23am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS had a heart attack and emergency bypass surgery.

Oh no, so sorry to hear. So scary. Hoping for a full recovery.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:11:46am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

$41,400

that’s how much the emergency Air Evac helicopter trip cost.

sigh

Around here, we can pay $49/year for CareFlite. $49 covers everyone in the house. If we have to use it, they will accept insurance payment as their payment for services.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:12:12am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s doing really great…much better than anyone expected.
And he is taking everything seriously, from dietary changes to exercise.

Wife (from E’town) uses an old KY saying: “If your problem can be solved by money, you don’t have a problem.”

(This is usually quoted by people who have more than $1.50 on hand.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:12:45am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have no debt, not even a mortgage.

Well, I do have hub’s medical debt now…

I hate this.

Medical debt is a common cause of bankruptcy in America. It’s also the type that the court will look most kindly on.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:12:57am

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

For anyone in/around/knows someone in Philly:
Be On The Lookout

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If she was wearing the Eagles bib at the time of her disappearance, she might be sleeping it off under a pool table at some bar from too much drink at an after superb owl party she was escorted into.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:13:41am

re: #305 makeitstop

This is interesting. Is this the GOP’s way of foisting the non-release of the Dem rebuttal squarely on Trump? Sorta looks like it.

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There is part of me that doesn’t want the the rebuttal memo released. Just let Nunes’ turd rot in the sun.

On the other hand, if the Intelligence Committee recommends that it gets released, and the decision goes to Trump, he damn near has to approve the recommendation—-even though he really, really, wouldn’t want to. And that would gall him to his petulant core.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:15:07am

re: #314 Belafon

Around here, we can pay $49/year for CareFlite. $49 covers everyone in the house. If we have to use it, they will accept insurance payment as their payment for services.

AirEvac here is $64/year for the entire household, same deal as your CareFlite. I just signed up for the 10-year discounted plan (while I still have the money), since I now know how fast the medical community is here about using the helicopter for inter-hospital transfers.

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:16:12am

re: #318 Mike Lamb

he damn near has to approve the recommendation

Why? I’m not sure the pressure from that will make a difference.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:16:50am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

AirEvac here is $64/year for the entire household, same deal as your CareFlite. I just signed up for the 10-year discounted plan (while I still have the money), since I now know how fast the medical community is here about using the helicopter for inter-hospital transfers.

It sucks you didn’t find out until after.

For everyone else, find the one in your area.

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Interesting Times  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:17:34am

Ha (though I wonder if trumpchumps/GOPers would even comprehend the metaphor):

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:20:20am

re: #285 lawhawk

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I dunno (IANAL and all that), but I think there are a couple of under-reported aspects to the PA gerrymandering decision that may or may not be unmitigated “good news”. Of course, this dark-lining-to-the-cloud opinion is based mainly on reading Internet commentary, so there you go…

1. Did SCOTUS cite any particular reason for refusing a review/stay of the PASC decision? I’m guessing it might be because it’s solely a “State” matter (?)

2. One aspect of the PA case that is moderately disturbing is that (AFAICT) a good case CAN be made that this is a matter of some level of “judicial overreach”; i.e. a State SC telling the lege to take actions, under an interpretation of the State Constitution whose sole appeal would be to the Court that mandated the action in the first place. The Pennsylvania decision looks to be a “good thing” for election purposes, (at least IMO), but I’m wondering if we’d be cheering as much if the State SC in, say, Idaho or Mississippi, issued a decision reserving the power to adjudicate Congressional districts (or review thereof) to itself, where we KNOW Republicans would be favored? Justice does, after all, have two edges on her sword…..

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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:23:18am

re: #320 JordanRules

Why? I’m not sure the pressure from that will make a difference.

It’s interesting to me in that if they vote to send it to Trump, they can claim that they wanted to release it but Trump said no (if he does refuse).

It looks to me like they’re dumping it right in his lap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:23:40am

re: #323 Jay C

1. Did SCOTUS cite any particular reason for refusing a review/stay of the PASC decision? I’m guessing it might be because it’s solely a “State” matter (?)

My guess is that it’s because it’s a Pennsylvania state constitutional issue, not a US Constitutional issue.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:23:48am
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:24:12am

re: #322 Interesting Times

Ha (though I wonder if trumpchumps/GOPers would even comprehend the metaphor):

And, if you’re mid-meal, we get to pump your stomach first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:25:46am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:26:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:26:20am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL…who knew Breitbart had “editorial standards”???!!!

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:26:21am

re: #323 Jay C

The state Supreme Court is the final word on interpretation of state law. Period. That’s the way it’s been since the nation was founded, and the GOP legislators trying to wiggle around this sacrosanct principle are messing with forces they don’t care to understand.

The Supreme Court was asked to rule on a state court’s ruling on state law. That’s not what the Supreme Court does, and it properly refused to hear it.

It’s not judicial overreach for a court to rule on the application of state law. Who but the state court can rule on the application of state law in that state? The legislature refused to apply the law on mapping districts in a way that was fair and impartial - instead gerrymandering districts so that all the Democrat votes were concentrated in a few cantons while GOPers benefited from being able to seat multiple representatives in districts that had been rigged to their benefit.

The GOP can claim that the court shouldn’t intervene in a political question, but that’s not how the law (and state constitution) are written.

The legislators lost.

Other states could end up doing districts favoring GOPers, but the thing here is that the PA case is only persuasive elsewhere. It’s not binding anywhere else but in PA.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:27:30am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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More so, we deleted a tweet that made us look stupid even for us.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:27:42am

re: #329 FormerDirtDart

Chrysler is now blocking that due to copyright claim.

As though they have a right to the MLK content that was overlaid. They’re asking for it…

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:27:42am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:28:14am

re: #329 FormerDirtDart

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Deleted since Chrysler filed a copyright claim. Irony.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:28:45am

re: #318 Mike Lamb

There is part of me that doesn’t want the the rebuttal memo released. Just let Nunes’ turd rot in the sun.

On the other hand, if the Intelligence Committee recommends that it gets released, and the decision goes to Trump, he damn near has to approve the recommendation—-even though he really, really, wouldn’t want to. And that would gall him to his petulant core.

I wonder if it will even make a difference: Trump is most likely to just barf up angry tweets (still) claiming COMPLETE VINDICATION!!! from the Nunes Memo, and dismissing the Dem rebuttal as PARTISAN WITCH-HUNT FAKE NEWS!!! Allegation unlikely to go very-much challenged by the media or GOP apologists; to say nothing of the mouthbreather “base”…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:29:13am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:29:54am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:30:16am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Like they think pork fat bullets are some kind of Muslim go away powder. These people either have never met a Muslim or have never listened to one. But that’s what happens when you reside in a right wing echo chamber like Breitbart.

A rwnj on my Facebook feed posted a petition asking if we should ban bacon to avoid offending muslims, as though anyone actually thinks we should.

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:30:28am

re: #324 makeitstop

It is interesting. They could kill it and not have to worry the WH.

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:30:48am

re: #176 MsJ

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That’s my Town!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:31:07am

re: #339 Big Beautiful Door

A rwnj on my Facebook feed posted a petition asking if we should ban bacon to avoid offending muslims, as though anyone actually thinks we should.

RWNJs are terrified of so many imaginary things that their hoax-media feeds to them.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:31:56am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Deleted since Chrysler filed a copyright claim. Irony.

His previous tweet had a copy, still plays

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:32:32am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:32:33am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:32:52am

re: #339 Big Beautiful Door

A rwnj on my Facebook feed posted a petition asking if we should ban bacon to avoid offending muslims, as though anyone actually thinks we should.

It’s so stupid man. They simply don’t eat pork. I don’t see the French mocking us because we don’t eat horse and talking about the stuff RWNJs do with pigs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:34:20am

indeed

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:34:27am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:36:39am

Really good Quora reply with lots of links to great so-called “race-music”.
What are some old songs (pre-1960s) with explicit or scandalous lyrics?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:37:07am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:37:23am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:38:02am

re: #320 JordanRules

Why? I’m not sure the pressure from that will make a difference.

You could be right, but he’s got enough people around him that have some understanding of optics. If he doesn’t approve the recommendation, anything he thought he gained from the Nunes memo is lost, and that’s even among a fair amount of right wing idiots. The story becomes that Trump is playing hide the ball.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:38:31am

re: #351 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:38:32am

Sad update on a post another lizard shared a couple of days ago:

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:38:46am
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:38:47am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS had a heart attack and emergency bypass surgery.

Wishing him a complete and speedy recovery. And wishing you a successful and easy battle against the Insurance Company.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:39:32am

re: #352 Mike Lamb

You could be right, but he’s got enough people around him that have some understanding of optics. If he doesn’t approve the recommendation, anything he thought he gained from the Nunes memo is lost, and that’s even among a fair amount of right wing idiots. The story becomes that Trump is playing hide the ball.

Hannity will tell the right that he’s protecting us from the scandalous Schiff memo, and they’ll believe him.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:40:31am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been pointing that out for quite some time.

A whole boatload of federal corruption cases vaporized after the Supreme Court’s misguided McDonnell decision came down that basically made “official acts” so overbroad as to be meaningless as applied to corruption statutes.

Menendez is hardly the only one to benefit from the corruption cases against them going poof; politicians across the nation have benefited from this nonsense.

McDonnell is an awful decision that needs to be swept away.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:41:14am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:41:57am

Yeah, well - I’ve been driving for 44 years, and if we did that, 80+% of drivers would have to be ‘reset’.

On CA freeways, more like 95%. That’s assuming traffic’s moving, of course.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:42:18am

re: #356 Hecuba’s daughter

Wishing him a complete and speedy recovery. And wishing you a successful and easy battle against the Insurance Company.

The insurance company is actually pretty good (IBEW union insurance, they went with all of the ACA recommendations for coverage upgrades as soon as Obama signed the bill instead of waiting for the mandated start date).

I’m probably just over-reacting about the cost of the helicopter ride.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:43:57am

re: #355 Charles Johnson

Representative Devin Nunes, a man of tremendous courage and grit, may someday be recognized as a Great American Hero for what he has exposed and what he has had to endure!

— Donald J. Trump

What’s even more remarkable is this Great American Hero didn’t even read the FISA warrant upon which his “expose’” was supposedly based.

snark

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:45:50am

re: #358 lawhawk

I’ve been pointing that out for quite some time.

A whole boatload of federal corruption cases vaporized after the Supreme Court’s misguided McDonnell decision came down that basically made “official acts” so overbroad as to be meaningless as applied to corruption statutes.

Menendez is hardly the only one to benefit from the corruption cases against them going poof; politicians across the nation have benefited from this nonsense.

McDonnell is an awful decision that needs to be swept away.

Maybe, but it is interesting that, according to your SCOTUSblog link, the McDonnell decision was 8-0 unanimous (and likely 9-0 if Scalia had still been around).

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:45:50am

re: #355 Charles Johnson

Representative Devin Nunes, a man of tremendous courage and grit, may someday be recognized as a Great American Hero for what he has exposed and what he has had to endure!

— Donald J. Trump

Do you know what a FISA warrant is? Do you know what FISA stands for?

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:46:09am

re: #336 Jay C

I wonder if it will even make a difference: Trump is most likely to just barf up angry tweets (still) claiming COMPLETE VINDICATION!!! from the Nunes Memo, and dismissing the Dem rebuttal as PARTISAN WITCH-HUNT FAKE NEWS!!! Allegation unlikely to go very-much challenged by the media or GOP apologists; to say nothing of the mouthbreather “base”…

If you want as much transparency as we’re going to get it does. I expect Trump and Fox to ignore it, but the rest of us can call bullshit on Nunes.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:46:19am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

The insurance company is actually pretty good (IBEW union insurance, they went with all of the ACA recommendations for coverage upgrades as soon as Obama signed the bill instead of waiting for the mandated start date).

I’m probably just over-reacting about the cost of the helicopter ride.

Everybody will want it to be settled, so there’s lots of room for ‘adjustment’ from both the insurance co and the air ambulance. The most insane thing about our med system is that the sticker price is meaningless.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:46:37am

re: #364 Sir John Barron

Do you know what a FISA warrant is? Do you know what FISA stands for?

“Do you know what a Do Bee is?”

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Alephnaught  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:47:23am

re: #53 austin_blue

Oh, and Kate Bush on what it might be like to be a fetus after a nuclear attack:

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Amazingly, that was the lead off single for her first Number 1 album, “Never for Ever”.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:49:11am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sad update on a post another lizard shared a couple of days ago:

Was that the dog in the car wreck (can’t see picture)?

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:49:18am

re: #363 Jay C

Yeah, and it was unanimously wrong. They wrote out the definition of corruption from the statutes, and Congress would need to step back in and create new language that would fill the gap.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:49:22am

re: #369 Dr. Matt

The Pentagon’s Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) is reportedly not able to document hundreds of millions of dollars of money it spent.

An internal audit by Ernst & Young finds the agency can’t account for more than $800 million in construction projects, Politico reported.

This would have been an impeachable offense under President Obama’s tenure.

And on FNC every second but wait here’s our series about Clinton’s scandals because it’s easier to bitch about Bill than defend Trump.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:50:03am

Of course.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:50:09am

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Everybody will want it to be settled, so there’s lots of room for ‘adjustment’ from both the insurance co and the air ambulance. The most insane thing about our med system is that the sticker price is meaningless.

The cost is the starting point for negotiations…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:50:26am

re: #367 Blind Frog Belly White

“Do you know what a Do Bee is?”

And we know who the Ulimate Don’t Bee is!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:51:26am

re: #367 Blind Frog Belly White

“Do you know what a Do Bee is?”

Do Bee Dance - Official TV Romper Room Activity Songs

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:51:27am

re: #341 austin_blue

That’s my Town!

I know. I thought of you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:51:40am

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Everybody will want it to be settled, so there’s lots of room for ‘adjustment’ from both the insurance co and the air ambulance. The most insane thing about our med system is that the sticker price is meaningless.

exactly.
Just got an insurance thing in the mail about the initial ER doctor bill. Insurance didn’t pay anything, but the cost was negotiated down about 50%. (Gotta get that deductible met…I’m actually feeling major relief that this all happened in January, rather than in December, so there’s only one deductible to worry about, instead of two.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:52:16am

re: #370 Belafon

Was that the dog in the car wreck (can’t see picture)?

yes

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:52:31am

re: #376 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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And we know Sinatra was the Do Bee Do Bee Do! 😉

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:53:01am

re: #373 DodgerFan1988

Of course.

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Is that Steve Doocy, and if so, does he have cancer?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:54:17am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

exactly.
Just got an insurance thing in the mail about the initial ER doctor bill. Insurance didn’t pay anything, but the cost was negotiated down about 50%. (Gotta get that deductible met…I’m actually feeling major relief that this all happened in January, rather than in December, so there’s only one deductible to worry about, instead of two.)

Yeah. Mrs. FBW’s cancer was diagnosed in October of 2004, so we ended up paying full Out Of Pocket for both 2004 and 2005.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:54:32am
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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:54:40am

re: #368 Alephnaught

Amazingly, that was the lead off single for her first Number 1 album, “Never for Ever”.

I so wish I could have gotten tickets to one of her Hammersmith concerts last year.

Oh, by the way, my brother-in-law is one of the founders of Silly Wizard, Bob Thomas.

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:56:21am

re: #362 Sir John Barron

What’s even more remarkable is this Great American Hero didn’t even read the FISA warrant upon which his “expose’” was supposedly based.

snark

But Trey Gowdy did. And quit politics the next day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:56:56am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:57:48am

re: #373 DodgerFan1988

Of course.

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Not even hiding their bigoted bullshit:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:58:55am

re: #385 MsJ

But Trey Gowdy did. And quit politics the next day.

How bad is it if you make Gowdy look reasonable?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:00:09am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

When will western TX and NM and AZ and southern CA meet the same fate?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:00:20am

re: #385 MsJ

But Trey Gowdy did. And quit politics the next day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:00:38am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:01:03am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

How bad is it if you make Gowdy look reasonable?

The Overton Window is broken and shattered into a million pieces.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:04:50am

re: #389 Colère Tueur de Lapin

When will western TX and NM and AZ and southern CA meet the same fate?

Old news in central CA. Netflix “Tapped” is worthy of ones time. CA and water…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:08:15am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is something I tried to explain to Conservative friends years ago about climate change:

If you look at the climate record as best we can discern it, the last 10,000 or so years are anomalously stable. Outside of that, it was prone to huge fluctuations. Those 10,000 years contain the entirety of human civilization, which has only been possible because we knew where we could plant crops and expect them to grow to maturity before the first frost, and with only the water provided by the right amount of rain. It allowed us to build towns, which grew into cities, close enough to rivers and coastlines that we could use them for transportation but still only rarely flood.

That stability allowed us the luxury of enough food, without the constant labor of everyone merely to survive. That allowed the development of culture, including the arts and sciences, which in turn allowed us to advance still further.

But it seems like we’d been balancing on a knife edge, and we eventually developed the ability to knock the climate off that knife edge, back into instability.

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Citizen K  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:10:07am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:10:07am

re: #369 Dr. Matt

The Pentagon’s Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) is reportedly not able to document hundreds of millions of dollars of money it spent. An internal audit by Ernst & Young finds the agency can’t account for more than $800 million in construction projects, Politico reported.

This would have been an impeachable offense under President Obama’s tenure.

Did a stretch in a DLA command. They used to say “there are 4 divisions in our organization—US, International, and Support.”

Some of that money is not supposed to be ‘findable’.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:11:52am

re: #395 Citizen K

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:13:54am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:14:00am

re: #395 Citizen K

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:14:37am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

exactly.
Just got an insurance thing in the mail about the initial ER doctor bill. Insurance didn’t pay anything, but the cost was negotiated down about 50%. (Gotta get that deductible met…I’m actually feeling major relief that this all happened in January, rather than in December, so there’s only one deductible to worry about, instead of two.)

How does an insurance company not pay anything on an ER bill? For a heart attack? That sounds crazy. Glad the charge was negotiated down, but still.

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:15:12am
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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:15:27am

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MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:17:33am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

How bad is it if you make Gowdy look reasonable?

Not just reasonable, scared.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:21:20am
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sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:21:21am

Has Teleskiguy weighed in yet on Lindsay Vonn’s NBC Olympics promo ad? I’ll bet it was his favorite part of the Super Bowl.

Winter Olympics Best of U.S. | Lindsey Vonn Super Bowl Ad

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:21:29am

re: #396 Decatur Deb

Did a stretch in a DLA command. They used to say “there are 4 divisions in our organization—US, International, and Support.”

Some of that money is not supposed to be ‘findable’.

This is the point of having an extensive government bureaucracy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:22:24am

re: #398 Kragar

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“We are a group of well-mannered, good looking young white people who have something to say.”

oh dear…

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:23:51am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sad update on a post another lizard shared a couple of days ago:

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We had a dog that was bumped by a car (a Model T, just putting down our gravel road), and seemed to be fine, although we kenneled him so that he didn’t run around. He began to wretch the next day, and died. His diaphragm had been ruptured, which did not turn up at first. :<

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:24:02am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the point of having an extensive government bureaucracy

“At some point, ya’ just gotta trust somebody, you know.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:24:24am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

Wait, wasn’t that a line from “The Monkees” theme song?
/////////////////

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dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:25:54am

re: #382 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. Mrs. FBW’s cancer was diagnosed in October of 2004, so we ended up paying full Out Of Pocket for both 2004 and 2005.

if you find you have a chronic condition, then it’s every year

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:25:56am

My niece’s husband decided to jump into political discussions and start throwing elbows, but almost immediately ran out of material. The problem with aggressive ‘both sidesism’ is, well, reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:26:09am

re: #400 Sir John Barron

How does an insurance company not pay anything on an ER bill? For a heart attack? That sounds crazy. Glad the charge was negotiated down, but still.

deductibles, co-pays, out-of pocket requirements….lots of stuff like that comes up first.

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:28:08am

Dow’s down 500 for the day, and has dropped 200 points in the last 45 minutes.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:28:10am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

deductibles, co-pays, out-of pocket requirements….lots of stuff like that comes up first.

Oh, OK, I thought they were essentially denying the charges as not covered.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:28:50am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

Remember, Conservatives care a lot more about manners than hate speech or violence. If you politely suggest rounding up the Jews, that will be just fine with many of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:29:56am

re: #416 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Remember, Conservatives care a lot more about manners than hate speech or violence. If you politely suggest rounding up the Jews, that will be just fine with many of them.

rounding up politely?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:30:30am

re: #414 austin_blue

Dow’s down 500 for the day, and has dropped 200 points in the last 45 minutes.

We did an excellent job of being very insulated from the news this past week while on vacation but ugh, that update is going to hurt.

On the bright side, I ran a new PR in the half at Death Valley this weekend.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:30:41am

re: #414 austin_blue

When will Trump tweet bragging that the Dow just broke 25,000?

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:30:42am
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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:30:54am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:30:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:32:00am

re: #420 jaunte

This is hugely important. We often don’t connect the dots, but white men on the Right’s fringe are responsible for an epidemic of murder and violence

you recall the hissy fit that the Right threw over the very concept of calling these people “terrorists”?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:32:11am

re: #414 austin_blue

Dow’s down 500 for the day, and has dropped 200 points in the last 45 minutes.

WHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:32:57am

Speaking of gun violence, this story will absolutely drive you nuts. It’s about how NRA-influenced legislation makes it nearly impossible to trace a gun. It cannot be computerized!!! I’m livid!

atlasobscura.com

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dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:32:59am

re: #394 Blind Frog Belly White

This is something I tried to explain to Conservative friends years ago about climate change:

If you look at the climate record as best we can discern it, the last 10,000 or so years are anomalously stable. Outside of that, it was prone to huge fluctuations. Those 10,000 years contain the entirety of human civilization, which has only been possible because we knew where we could plant crops and expect them to grow to maturity before the first frost, and with only the water provided by the right amount of rain. It allowed us to build towns, which grew into cities, close enough to rivers and coastlines that we could use them for transportation but still only rarely flood.

That stability allowed us the luxury of enough food, without the constant labor of everyone merely to survive. That allowed the development of culture, including the arts and sciences, which in turn allowed us to advance still further.

But it seems like we’d been balancing on a knife edge, and we eventually developed the ability to knock the climate off that knife edge, back into instability.

the problem is thinking things like:
everyone is just like “us”
everywhere is just like “here”
everything’s always been the way it is now
everything’s always going to be the way it is now

when in fact,
- everything changes.
- we are not even temporarily in control

and it’s an illusion to think we ever had it all under control in the first place

this is true at the macro and micro (personal) levels

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:33:12am

re: #417 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

rounding up politely?


“Excuse me sir, perhaps we should send all Jewish people to camps. Thank you for your time”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:36:06am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:36:13am

I heard an acronym last week, explaining asset bubbles - FOMO, or Fear Of Missing Out. I wonder if there’s a similary acronym for the converse of that, happening right now, the fear of being the last guy trying to sell?

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dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:36:51am

re: #414 austin_blue

Dow’s down 500 for the day, and has dropped 200 points in the last 45 minutes.

while i realize some are taking a bit of a bath
its delicious so few days after the SOTFU

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:38:09am

re: #426 dangerman

the problem is thinking things like:
everyone is just like “us”
everywhere is just like “here”
everything’s always been the way it is now
everything’s always going to be the way it is now

when in fact,
- everything changes.
- we are not even temporarily in control

and it’s an illusion to think we ever had it all under control in the first place

this is true at the macro and micro (personal) levels

I would observe, however, that ‘everything changes’ is what AGW deniers now say, since warming is undeniable - “Climate always changes”.

But that’s the thing - it hasn’t. Not for 10,000 years.

I’d also observe that we turn out to have had more control over it than we thought, in the sense that we had the power to fuck it up.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:38:46am

re: #430 dangerman

Bitcoin below 7000.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:40:43am
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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:40:49am
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dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:41:07am

re: #425 retired cynic

Speaking of gun violence, this story will absolutely drive you nuts. It’s about how NRA-influenced legislation makes it nearly impossible to trace a gun. It cannot be computerized!!! I’m livid!

atlasobscura.com

a thought i had, probably unworkable in practicality was to trace all guns forward

start every investigation with the manufacturer
let them prove who they sold/shipped/transferred it to and when
go to that (likely dealer) guy - and repeat
you cant prove you legally transferred a weapon, its yours and your responsibility

(yeah i know. good luck with that)

436
austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:41:45am

re: #429 Blind Frog Belly White

I heard an acronym last week, explaining asset bubbles - FOMO, or Fear Of Missing Out. I wonder if there’s a similary acronym for the converse of that, happening right now, the fear of being the last guy trying to sell?

How about DBIA (Don’t be an idiot).

437
lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:42:13am

re: #433 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No. It’s not paid family leave.

It’s grabbing your retirement funds and using them before you retire to pay for other essential care/services.

It only means you have less money at retirement.

Only a GOPer would treat this as paid family leave. Steal from your own retirement and claim you’ve found the money.

It’s all a scam and grift to the Trump syndicate.

438
jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:42:30am

re: #433 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They’ve been watching too many reverse mortgage commercials.

439
MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:42:53am
440
Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:45:40am

I’d like to see the market tank quickly and hold about 10k lower just to put this pompous assholes in their place.

441
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:46:19am

re: #432 Skip Intro

Bitcoin below 7000.

“I took out a second mortgage to buy Bitcoin!! Should I sell, or ride it out?”

442
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:46:45am

re: #432 Skip Intro

Bitcoin below 7000.

I thought about getting in again just under 8, but didn’t. It’s bounced back from every drop so far, but the environment is changing as government regulate or ban cryptocurrencies.

443
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:48:10am

re: #437 lawhawk

No. It’s not paid family leave.

paid family leave is an investment in the future

but our GOP does not think in those terms, it is about cutting costs to maximize profits

public services, infrastructure, environment, safety, education and healthcare are all investments in America’s future, but they would cut into executive bonus payments

444
dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:48:32am

re: #442 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I thought about getting in again just under 8, but didn’t. It’s bounced back from every drop so far, but the environment is changing as government regulate or ban cryptocurrencies.

alls you gotta do is chart it out.
then you’ll know when it’s “ripe”

445
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:49:05am

re: #441 Blind Frog Belly White

“I took out a second mortgage to buy Bitcoin!! Should I sell, or ride it out?”

Ride it out for sure. There’s a good chance it rebounds at least once more.
The guy who announced doing that already sold and took his brutal loss.

446
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:49:05am

re: #442 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I thought about getting in again just under 8, but didn’t. It’s bounced back from every drop so far, but the environment is changing as government regulate or ban cryptocurrencies.

lack of regulation is what makes it so attractive

and volatile

and easily manipulated

447
cat-tikvah  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:50:25am

re: #434 lawhawk

US Supreme Court will NOT hear appeal on PA ruling.
Tick tick tick gerrymandered congressional districts.

448
austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:51:38am

Down 630. Shit.

449
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:51:51am

Good morning/afternoon (as applicable.)
I just got through watching my Mac grind its way through 2 hours of updating “High Sierra” and chewing through a fair bit of our monthly bandwidth allotment in the process. It did the same thing 3 frickin’ weeks ago. I’m getting less enthused about Apple…

450
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:52:29am

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

lack of regulation is what makes it so attractive

and volatile

and easily manipulated

Yep. It’s also easily stolen because the websites for buying and selling do not have banking-grade security.

451
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:52:50am

re: #448 austin_blue

Down 630. Shit.

The Trump economy has kicked in.

452
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:55:48am

Irony is we were on vacation in 2008 when the market started tanking too.

Wheee.

453
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:56:02am

re: #448 austin_blue

Down 630. Shit.

Deep, even breaths. The rise over the last few weeks has been unsustainable. You’re still going to be ahead over last year. Unless the captains of industry actually take a close look at what our government is doing-then all bets are off.

454
austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:56:03am

re: #451 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Trump economy has kicked in.

Maybe it’s gonna drop 666 points every day until he quits?

455
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:56:25am

re: #452 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Irony is we were on vacation in 2008 when the market started tanking too.

Wheee.

May I request that you quit taking vacations?

456
MsJ  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:56:38am

re: #454 austin_blue

Maybe it’s gonna drop 666 points every day until he quits?

Antichrist trump.

457
lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:57:20am

re: #447 cat-tikvah

US Supreme Court will NOT hear appeal on PA ruling.
Tick tick tick gerrymandered congressional districts.

That outcome applies to PA and PA alone because the PA Supreme Court ruled on state law grounds. Other gerrymandering cases are relying on federal law, which means that the Supreme Court could take those up.

458
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:57:40am

re: #449 calochortus

Good morning/afternoon (as applicable.)
I just got through watching my Mac grind its way through 2 hours of updating “High Sierra” and chewing through a fair bit of our monthly bandwidth allotment in the process. It did the same thing 3 frickin’ weeks ago. I’m getting less enthused about Apple…

Bandwidth limits have gotten ridiculous. A gamer who watches NetFlix, especially NetFlix 4K, can easily burn through the limits. I have a business class account that’s about $220/mo to avoid that and get me an upstream fast enough that I can access my video collection from work.

459
Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:57:47am

-676. I just talked to a buddy who’s in finance and he told me not to be shocked if it’s -1000 today at closing.

460
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:58:32am

re: #448 austin_blue

Down 630. Shit.

Everyone who was afraid of missing out is now afraid of being the last one still in.

461
Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:58:50am

re: #451 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Trump economy has been kicked in.

Better??
(Though probably hugely inaccurate: this is most-likely a short-term correction)

462
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:59:03am

re: #459 Ace Rothstein

-676. I just talked to a buddy who’s in finance and he told me not to be shocked if it’s -1000 today at closing.

-731 right….now.

463
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:59:08am

re: #455 calochortus

May I request that you quit taking vacations?

Haha, nope.

I mean, we go on plenty without the market tanking too. But we were in Mexico when Lehman Brothers went down.

464
FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:59:18am

-764, whole -3%

465
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:59:36am
466
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:59:46am

Well Trump will either ignore this or blame Obama.

467
Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:00:19pm

He also told me that the market will drop 8% this year. The tax cut Jesus drove the market up last year I be anticipation and the computers are dumping it all now. -750 now.

468
Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:01:18pm

-780.

469
austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:01:38pm

Kinda like watching a car wreck. The fascination of the abomination.

470
FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:01:43pm

re: #464 FormerDirtDart

-764, whole -3%

though, I did laugh a bit when I looked and saw the DJI at -666.18
gave us a whole extra three 6s with that 18

471
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:03:14pm

re: #458 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Bandwidth limits have gotten ridiculous. A gamer who watches NetFlix, especially NetFlix 4K, can easily burn through the limits. I have a business class account that’s about $220/mo to avoid that and get me an upstream fast enough that I can access my video collection from work.

We use a small local provider and they’re actually pretty good about turning a blind eye to this sort of thing if it just happens occasionally.

472
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:03:30pm

re: #466 HappyWarrior

Well Trump will either ignore this or blame Obama.

ignore, he is not about to call attention to anything that unflattering

473
Kragar  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:03:36pm
474
Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:03:48pm

DJIA down 782.28 (3.07%) at 3:02p

475
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:04:27pm

re: #473 Kragar

[Embedded content]

As I said, he has a big problem understanding the 1st amendment. Pathetic.

476
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:04:45pm

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ignore, he is not about to call attention to anything that unflattering

My guess too. But he likes to deflect blame too.

477
Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:04:54pm

re: #473 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Well, dumbfuck, because words mean things.

478
Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:04:56pm

The market is dropping an enormous deuce because of rising yields to pay for the tax cuts, and Dumbfuck is giving a speech lying about those tax cuts.

479
KGxvi  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:05:24pm

re: #464 FormerDirtDart

-764, whole -3%

I was watching MSNBC for a bit this morning and they said some experts are expecting a 20% correction coming soon. And apparently, we are in the midst of what some are calling the Bullshit Bubble, though I’m not sure the exact details because the first I heard of it was on Friday.

480
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:05:40pm

re: #469 austin_blue

Kinda like watching a car wreck. The fascination of the abomination.

Not unlike the crash in 1987(?)

I sallied over to FR to get their hot take on it. Did you know that the market is totally out of the president’s control? At least when it’s tanking, it is.

481
Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:05:44pm

re: #473 Kragar

[Embedded content]

And the other fave: “someone” said… Trump is just asking questions about what someone else said.

482
Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:05:52pm

re: #473 Kragar

“But all those Republicans not applauding Obama. Just brave American patriots.”

483
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:05:52pm

Someone said treasonous? Yeah probably one of your toadies who criticized Obama over every thing but cries over anything that doesn’t fawn over you.

484
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:06:12pm

re: #462 Blind Frog Belly White

-731 right….now.

-906

485
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:06:22pm

re: #482 Belafon

“But all those Republicans not applauding Obama. Just brave American patriots.”

or those Republicans including me who questioned his citizenship.

486
Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:06:26pm

Holy Shit it’s now down 914.69!

I got a feeling we’re seeing a repeat of the 1987 meltdown!!!!!!

487
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:06:42pm

re: #480 calochortus

Not unlike the crash in 1987(?)

I sallied over to FR to get their hot take on it. Did you know that the market is totally out of the president’s control? At least when it’s tanking, it is.

Of course.

488
sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:07:09pm

re: #452 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Irony is we were on vacation in 2008 when the market started tanking too.

Wheee.

Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.
Correlation is not causation.

(or is it? dun-dun-dunnnn).

489
Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:07:12pm
490
Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:07:45pm
491
bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:07:58pm

re: #484 Blind Frog Belly White

-906

THAT DAMN OBAMA!

492
Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:08:01pm

-977.39!!!!!!!

493
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:08:18pm

re: #473 Kragar

494
Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:08:48pm

Looks like I got my wish.

495
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:09:19pm
496
Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:09:45pm

-1093. Has Fox blamed Obama yet?

497
gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:10:35pm
498
Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:11:26pm

re: #496 Ace Rothstein

-1093. Has Fox blamed Obama yet?

Exhibit #99 of why it generally isn’t good political practice to hang one’s hat on the stock market level.

499
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:11:28pm

Anyway my stuff in the market is there for the long haul so. Days like this are part of the territory.

Doesn’t really make it easier to watch, but knee jerk decisions are always a bad idea.

500
Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:11:41pm

-1486!

501
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:12:11pm

-1506!

502
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:12:31pm

re: #486 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy Shit it’s now down 914.69!

I got a feeling we’re seeing a repeat of the 1987 meltdown!!!!!!

Oh, no. Not even close. That was losing >20% in a single day. That was not being able to get anyone on the phone at Schwab, and not being able to find ANY buyers.

503
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:12:33pm

At some point don’t they slow trading?

504
wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:12:38pm

Sometimes it’s the little things….

Business is incredibly slow this time of year, even though we are having very nice weather. I took it as a major compliment when a guy was looking around my shop, and paused to take out his glasses and put them on to get a closer look at something. He took another turn all the way around the shop with his glasses on. Sure enough, he said, ‘Nice shop!’ as he was leaving. It doesn’t pay the rent, but it keeps the door open.

505
Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:12:52pm

Dow down 1027 pts. 4.07% @ 3:08

Back in the day, (when I worked in the markets for my father, trading parchments under the buttonwood tree) this would have signaled a “late tape”, i.e. anyone working in stocks should call their families and tell them they weren’t coming home that night….

506
FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:12:54pm

re: #500 Joe Bacon 🌹

-1486!

auto high frequency trading algorithms kicking in

507
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:13:03pm

re: #502 Blind Frog Belly White

Nevermind.

508
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:13:14pm

re: #503 calochortus

At some point don’t they slow trading?

I think it’s a 7% loss.

We’re not quite there yet.

509
Kragar  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:13:16pm

re: #503 calochortus

At some point don’t they slow trading?

Did Trump appoint anyone to the position in charge of doing that?

510
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:13:56pm

re: #501 calochortus

-1506!

Should I jump out a window yet?

511
austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:14:21pm

Oops, the bottom just fell out.

512
sagehen  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:14:47pm

re: #502 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, no. Not even close. That was losing >20% in a single day. That was not being able to get anyone on the phone at Schwab, and not being able to find ANY buyers.

The undeniable similarity is that deregulating banks (or not letting CFPB do its job) is the proximate cause.

513
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:15:02pm

re: #510 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Should I jump out a window yet?

Nah. Just hang on tight. Now they’re saying it’s down 1150 points, so it’s a tad volatile.

514
KGxvi  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:15:17pm

9% drop in the last five days of trading. That seems… not good.

515
lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:15:34pm

re: #490 Dave In Austin

If you’re putting a traditional 20% down payment, you’d need $54,000. Even at 10% down, you’re looking at $27,000. 5% down, which is inadvisable is still $13,500.

My sense is that they think they’ve just gotten that much closer, and in a few more years, they might eke out enough, but they’ll still be thousands short.

516
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:15:43pm

Looks like it bounced off -1500.

517
calochortus  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:16:13pm

re: #514 KGxvi

9% drop in the last five days of trading. That seems… not good.

No, it’s not, but the way it went up over the last few weeks wasn’t good either. Not based on much besides excess cash sloshing around.

518
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:16:36pm

re: #517 calochortus

No, it’s not, but the way it went up over the last few weeks wasn’t good either. Not based on much besides excess cash sloshing around.

Pretty much. Context is important.

519
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:17:21pm

re: #514 KGxvi

9% drop in the last five days of trading. That seems… not good.

Depends. The run-up over the last year didn’t make a lot of sense, in terms of valuation, so a correction makes sense.

But this is why, if you’re President, you don’t tout the stock market as proof of what a great President you are.

520
lawhawk  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:18:23pm

Circuit breakers halt trading on the nation’s stock markets during dramatic drops and are set at 7%, 13%, and 20% of the closing price for the previous day.

So, even these massive drops aren’t enough to trigger the trading halts.

We’ve now erased the entire year’s stock market gains.

521
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:18:48pm

re: #520 lawhawk

Circuit breakers halt trading on the nation’s stock markets during dramatic drops and are set at 7%, 13%, and 20% of the closing price for the previous day.

So, even these massive drops aren’t enough to trigger the trading halts.

We’ve now erased the entire year’s stock market gains.

To be fair …it’s only February.

522
FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:18:50pm

re: #516 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks like it bounced off -1500.

I figure a bunch of folks decided that seemed like a good floor, and started to buy

523
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:18:55pm

re: #517 calochortus

No, it’s not, but the way it went up over the last few weeks wasn’t good either. Not based on much besides excess cash sloshing around.

DING DING DING!!! We have a winner.

Back when we had a lot less income inequality, we had a lot fewer asset bubbles.

524
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:19:33pm

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

I figure a bunch of folks decided that seemed like a good floor, and started to buy

Winthorp and Valentine started buying.

525
Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:21:04pm

re: #519 Blind Frog Belly White

Depends. The run-up over the last year didn’t make a lot of sense, in terms of valuation, so a correction makes sense.

But this is why, if you’re President, you don’t tout the stock market as proof of what a great President you are.

Of course, this principle also assumes that the President isn’t going to be an incompetent narcissistic buffoon, but there we go….

(and speaking of going, the trading programs seem to have kicked in in the last few minutes, the Dow is rapidly rising out of its latest abyss)

526
Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:22:18pm

re: #499 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Anyway my stuff in the market is there for the long haul so. Days like this are part of the territory.

Doesn’t really make it easier to watch, but knee jerk decisions are always a bad idea.

Yes. I feel terrible for people that are nearer to retirement, but the market behavior we had seen was not sustainable. Some correction was due.

The only thing that’s annoying is that for a good chunk of people dumping stocks right now, it’s not based on some kind of market indicator—it’s just herd mentality and totally arbitrary.

527
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2018 • 12:26:37pm

re: #526 Mike Lamb

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528
cat-tikvah  Feb 5, 2018 • 1:22:59pm

re: #457 lawhawk

Oh, I know. I’m in PA, though, state of the iconic ‘Goofy Kicking Donald Duck’ congressional district PA-7 (Meehan, now on his way out) and the GOP has been stalling and blocking every effort to confront gerrymandering after they redrew the map in 2010. On the state level there are redistricting bills stuck in committee because R’s who control them won’t let them go out for discussion or a vote. The bill in the state House has 102 bipartisan co-sponsors, half the legislature and is still bottlenecked by the GOP. So this is a happy day for PA (along with the Eagles’ huge win!)


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Welles - Rock N Roll [Audio Only] PreOrder Welles Album "Red Trees and White Trashes" featuring "Seventeen" and "Rock N Roll"ffm.to Listen to Rock N Roll: ffm.toListen to Seventeen: ffm.to CONNECT: wellesmusic.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@wellesmusic--ROCK N ROLLdoesn't eatdoesn't sleepdoes drugsjus shrugs & says leave me beROCK N ROLLis a ...
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WALK the MOON - Kamikaze (Official Video) Get WALK THE MOON's new album 'What If Nothing' featuring "Kamikaze" and "One Foot":iTunes - wtmband.comSpotify - wtmband.comApple Music - wtmband.comAmazon - wtmband.comGoogle Play - wtmband.comMerch Store - wtmband.com Catch WTM On Tour - wtmband.com Follow WALK THE MOON:walkthemoonband.comfacebook.com@WALKTHEMOONbandinstagram.com ...
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Trump Is Watching You Closer Than You Watch Him, Thanks NSA I would love to see my friends offer a string of sensible suggestions for protecting our meta data, our digital privacy as best we can in the comments. Technology cuts both ways. Corporation and governments have scale, money. We ...
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