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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:02:35pm

Pulling over from the previous thready…

Pittsburgh Post Gazette reporter on protests tonight. This is amazing work amongst so much pain.

Protests are about the murder of 17 year old child Antwon Rose. Shot in the back.

More protest pics on this feed…

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:04:46pm

I think what gets me wasn’t just the rally, it was state propaganda network Faux getting snippy at the fact that it was the only network broadcasting Hair Furor’s bellowing live rather than running taped snippets later.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:05:48pm

I love LGF and everyone here. Y’all are the only thing that keeps me sane in this time of darkness.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:07:24pm

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

I love LGF and everyone here. Y’all are the only thing that keeps me sane in this time of darkness.

I second what Ace posted!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:08:18pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

I second what Ace posted!

I third what I posted!

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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:09:39pm

America 2018, Arizona style:

GOP school superintendent candidates press need for ‘intelligent design’ in school curriculum

Three of the Republicans hoping to be state school superintendent want students exposed to and taught “intelligent design,” but not necessarily as part of the science curriculum.

[…]

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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:09:51pm

re: #5 Ace Rothstein

I third what I posted!

Fourthded!!!!

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:10:34pm

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

I love LGF and everyone here. Y’all are the only thing that keeps me sane in this time of darkness.

To paraphrase the Cheshire Cat, you must be insane or else you wouldn’t have come here.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:13:57pm

re: #7 JordanRules

Fourthded!!!!

May the fourth be with you, and I’ll have a fifth, though not all at once.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:16:15pm

OOC, whatever happened to Lidane?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:16:30pm

re: #9 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

May the fourth be with you, and I’ll have a fifth, though not all at once.

If you do have it all at once, you will soon face the Revenge of the Fifth!

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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:18:08pm

re: #9 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

May the fourth be with you, and I’ll have a fifth, though not all at once.

You sharing?

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:18:41pm

Just want to say that, relating to the stuff I was posting on the last thread, I hope I didn’t come across as anti-adoption. I am 100% in awe of adoptive parents. I just cringe at the evangelical/quiverfull fervor for swooping into distressed countries and adopting “bunches” of kids, so they can convert them (or worse); and I am really fearful of them getting their hands on these immigrant children and “disappearing” them into their little enclaves.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:20:01pm

Has anyone—ever—continued holding campaign rallies after the campaign was over? This is not normal! (Yeah, I know a kajillion things aren’t normal now.)

Also, who’s paying for this shit? (Rhetorical—we are.)

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:20:20pm

re: #13 BeachDem

Me too.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:20:55pm
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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:21:24pm

NYC doing good again today!

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:22:07pm

The Trumper pathology is the inability to appreciate the power discrepancy between Trump and the little girl.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:24:43pm

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:25:34pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Happy born day Shiplord!!!

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:26:14pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Happy Birthday!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:26:37pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Hope you had a great day Old Man. I get it. Not too far behind.

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TedStriker  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:27:58pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

HEH HEH HEH YOU SAID 69

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:28:22pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I hope it was a good one!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:29:14pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Happy Birthday! I’ve got 66 coming up the end of July, so I know how it feels.

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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:31:18pm

NBC now reporting the Reveal News scoop.

Caging and drugging children. UN please come drag us.

Maybe FB will free the content now.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:32:19pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Happy Birthday!!!!!

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austin_blue  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:35:19pm

re: #6 freetoken

America 2018, Arizona style:

GOP school superintendent candidates press need for ‘intelligent design’ in school curriculum

Still? Really? It got blown away by a Republican appointed judge years ago in Pennsylvania.

Creationism is dead meat legally and should be dumped in the ash heap of history.

But the gaspers just keep trying to fuck a dead dog.

Pitiful. It’s not real science. It’s “Bible Science”, which isn’t science at all.

Please note the Ark in Kentucky with dinosaurs inside (presumably eating coconuts) coexisting with tasty herbivores.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:37:08pm

I love it here too. :)

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:38:07pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Giphy

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:40:22pm

re: #28 austin_blue

Still? Really? It got blown away by a Republican appointed judge years ago in Pennsylvania.

Creationism is dead meat legally and should be dumped in the ash heap of history.

But the gaspers just keep trying to fuck a dead dog.

Pitiful. It’s not real science. It’s “Bible Science”, which isn’t science at all.

Please note the Ark in Kentucky with dinosaurs inside (presumably eating coconuts) coexisting with tasty herbivores.

Why do you think they’re packing the courts with extreme right-wing drones?

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:43:35pm

re: #10 Ace Rothstein

She’s still tweeting. This was her last personal tweet (the rest past that in the feed are retweets) 12 hours ago.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:44:33pm

re: #10 Ace Rothstein

OOC, whatever happened to Lidane?

I’ve seen Lidane posting at mediaite here and there.

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Teukka  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:44:52pm

re: #17 JordanRules

NYC doing good again today!

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Far from the only Jewish individuals and organizations I have seen reacting to the outrage which is the Trump administration treatment of people seeking asylum at the border.

Not six hours ago, I saw a Jewish man in Israel tell a Trumpista off, that he’s worried, this is kind of how shit started 85 years ago, that the pattern is utterly terrifying.

The cynical pessimist in me says that the only thing which will happen if Jewish organizations get more involved is that Trump and his sycophants will let another piece of the mask go, showing their true antisemitic colors.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:44:55pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Ah, you’re just a kid! Happy birthday.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:46:33pm

I just dropped her a note

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:49:29pm

Seriously……… All who dare to tread..

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Teukka  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:51:21pm

re: #37 Dave In Austin

Seriously……… All who dare to tread..

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:51:51pm

re: #26 JordanRules

NBC now reporting the Reveal News scoop.

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Maybe FB will free the content now.

Sheila Jackson Lee called for this dump to be close down in 2014.

The abuses documented in that report - ranging from physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody - is not reflective of the quality of care and support that should be provided to the at-risk children, including the dozens of unaccompanied immigrant children, committed to its care.

“Because of these deficiencies I believe the time has come for the State of Texas to order the closure of the Shiloh Treatment Center. At a minimum, the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services should terminate immediately the contract awarded to Shiloh Treatment Center to provide shelter and treatment to unaccompanied children apprehended by the Border Patrol.

jacksonlee.house.gov

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:53:06pm

As much as a refuge this place is for sane people on the internet, it can be a very heavy place to navigate. None of us regulars (and hardcores, as it may be) are afraid of the truth and we freely post truthful stuff, on the regular. And the truth is hideous these days.

klys isn’t around as much. Decatur Deb has been gone for some time. Hell, RealityBasedSteve’s last post was on Election Day in 2016.

I often think about taking a sabbatical. But honestly, LGF has kept me ultra-informed, I’ve learned a lot about the world here. And I have a kind of familial connection here, I’m among good people and I feel like I belong here.

So I’m sticking around. Unless I end up on a week-long heli skiing trip in Alaska. Then I’ll just show up and post pictures of me slaying some spines in the middle of the Chugach and that’ll be the end.

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unproven innocence  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:54:21pm

re: #14 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Has anyone—ever—continued holding campaign rallies after the campaign was over? This is not normal! (Yeah, I know a kajillion things aren’t normal now.)

Also, who’s paying for this shit? (Rhetorical—we are.)

If he’s re-elected in 2020 and still continues campaigning, maybe then his base would get a clue, but that seems increasingly unlikely. (The getting a clue part.)

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:55:43pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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JordanRules  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:55:55pm

re: #39 BeachDem

Whoa!

And yet again I’m reminded who has been on the right side of history, who has been doing the work.

I wish more people got it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:56:57pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Damn, this tweet lasted less than a minute. It was Joe Bonamassa trying to catch some guitar thieves in Seattle.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2018 • 9:59:10pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

Damn, this tweet lasted less than a minute. It was Joe Bonamassa trying to catch some guitar thieves in Seattle.

“Seattle Guitar Thieves” would be a great band name!

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:03:08pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

I don’t post much either. I can barely lurk along fast enough to keep up with things. This is an ideal site for that. Usually as I race through a page the posted tweets sort of give me the gist of how things are unfolding. And by unfolding I mean coming unglued.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:04:24pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Seattle Guitar Thieves” would be a great band name!

A great band name, indeed. It would be legend if the band originated in, say, Sioux Falls, SD. Rolling Stone would ask “what’s in a name?” and they can be like, “Seattle and Sioux Falls are both on I-90, and there’s like, a pipeline of stolen guitars and shit. It’s fuckin’ crazy, yo!”

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:04:56pm
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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:05:22pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

One reason I pick on headlines and how they are written is because headlines are often crafted, intended to appeal, often through reinforcing ideas people have about themselves or others.

It takes a dogged determination to look at what is happening in the world around us, day by day, and not just turn away and hide.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:05:48pm

Meanwhile, it’s still daylight in Homer, AK as we speak.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:07:02pm

re: #49 freetoken

It takes a dogged determination to look at what is happening in the world around us, day by day, and not just turn away and hide.

Thank you for saying this. Gives me drive to keep up with things. “Dogged determination.” I can dig.

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:07:31pm
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austin_blue  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:08:38pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

As much as a refuge this place is for sane people on the internet, it can be a very heavy place to navigate. None of us regulars (and hardcores, as it may be) are afraid of the truth and we freely post truthful stuff, on the regular. And the truth is hideous these days.

klys isn’t around as much. Decatur Deb has been gone for some time. Hell, RealityBasedSteve’s last post was on Election Day in 2016.

I often think about taking a sabbatical. But honestly, LGF has kept me ultra-informed, I’ve learned a lot about the world here. And I have a kind of familial connection here, I’m among good people and I feel like I belong here.

So I’m sticking around. Unless I end up on a week-long heli skiing trip in Alaska. Then I’ll just show up and post pictures of me slaying some spines in the middle of the Chugach and that’ll be the end.

My man, I hear you. I don’t Tweet or do Facebook. I’m pretty much a Luddite as far as social media is concerned. But I lurk and read Stonekettle (who is just fucking brilliant, a fellow vet who gets what is happening in this very tenuous Republic) and a few other feeds.

But this place is home. I don’t post on any other blogs, because this place is sane. We agree to disagree. We discuss issues nicely nicely. It’s a blessing, and I don’t mean that in the religious sense. I mean it in the human sense, where there is true respect for other people’s opinions.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:08:48pm
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sauceruney  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:09:24pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

I read the comments here because you’re a close-knit group of intelligent people, and it’s rare to see anything that hurts my brain.

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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:12:38pm

Here’s an example of something that back in the days of more sane politics would have gathered more headlines, but not in these days:

In case you missed it today:

Stripes for the Solstice: Meteorologists United on Climate Change

Meteorologists United On Climate Change - Summer Solstice June 21st

These Meteorologists Are Sending a Clear Message on Climate Change With Their Clothing

And as usual, the fossil-fuel-bought gang of Republicans are crying because the NSF funded educational efforts in communicating climate change:

Senators call on National Science Foundation to investigate climate change grants

Four Republican senators have called on National Science Foundation Inspector General Allison Lerner to investigate the foundation’s grant-making process, citing a grant charged with enabling television meteorologists to provide viewers with climate change education.

[…]

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:13:30pm

Something funny, and true. My Facebook feed is my Epcot Centre version of me. No politics! Lots of music! Funny pictures! Look at my family, aren’t they great?!? My Twitter is the exact opposite, it is political as all fuck.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:16:20pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Politics on Facebook was summed up perfectly by our own goddamnedfrank, on Twitter.

I found that out way back in 2008 when Barack Obama got elected president. So I keep it Epcot Centre.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:19:49pm

Three days from now I will have been registered at LGF for 8 years.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:21:00pm

Laughingstock.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:22:10pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Three days from now I will have been registered at LGF for 8 years.

Damn kids…GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:23:34pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Three days from now I will have been registered at LGF for 8 years.

Second day of December is my 10 year anniversary.

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:24:01pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Damn kids…GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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Whats that you’re saying whippersnapper?

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austin_blue  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:25:11pm

Here’s an example of something that back in the days of more sane politics would have gathered more headlines, but not in these days

And as usual, the fossil-fuel-bought gang of Republicans are crying because the NSF funded educational efforts in communicating climate change:

And this, from today :

Opinion
Here’s How to Break the Impasse on Climate
By Trent Lott and John Breaux

Climate change is one of the great challenges of our generation. The politics of the issue have been divisive for decades and a new approach is needed to address this urgent problem.

Both Democrats and Republicans can find that solution. America has always come together at moments of crisis or opportunity, from the shadows of economic depression and world war to the promise of the technology revolution and our rise to global energy dominance. America now must marshal its political will to lead on climate as well.

There is only one lever powerful enough to solve this problem at the required scale and speed. Congress should approve legislation to place a meaningful fee on carbon-dioxide emissions that ripples through all sectors of our economy, and return the revenues it generates to the American people in the form of cash payments. We must set it high enough to encourage a turn to cleaner energy sources and accelerate our transition to a low-carbon future. If America leads on carbon pricing, the rest of the world will follow.

We can do this. We are proposing that Democratic and Republican leaders put their differences aside and support a plan proposed last year by two former Republican secretaries of state, James Baker and George Shultz. The Baker-Shultz plan has been endorsed by two former heads of the Federal Reserve, by Treasury secretaries from both parties, and by leading corporations from nearly every sector.

The plan is simple and elegant. It calls for an initial fee of $40 on every ton of carbon-dioxide emissions at the source, and raising it each year until we reach the necessary emissions reductions as businesses and consumers move to cleaner sources of energy. All revenue would then be disbursed to Americans. A family of four would receive approximately $2,000 a year. We would then export this approach and leadership on this issue to every corner of the global economy, while protecting the competitiveness of American companies.

If Exxon Mobil and the Nature Conservancy can back this common-sense solution, shouldn’t Democrats and Republicans be able to do so as well? Indeed, the Baker-Shultz carbon dividends plan is based on a few grand bargains meant to offer everyone with a stake in the climate debate an important win.

For example, it would achieve far greater emissions reductions than all Obama-era climate regulations combined, which will appeal to Democrats and environmentalists. At the same time, this market-based solution would render carbon regulations unnecessary, which will appeal to Republicans and business interests. And according to the Treasury Department, 70 percent of Americans, including the most vulnerable, would come out ahead economically.

Economists have long agreed that putting a price on emissions is the most cost-efficient way to tackle climate change. The ground rules make intuitive sense: The more businesses pollute, the more they pay; the less they pollute, the more they come out ahead. That goes for consumers and the cars they drive as well.

We should push this breakthrough carbon-dividends plan more squarely into the political arena through a national campaign. That is why we signed on as co-chairmen of the new nonprofit group Americans for Carbon Dividends, which will roll out a multifaceted media and lobbying campaign to promote this winning solution. (This group has hired our firm to help with the campaign.)

Americans already like the idea. A poll released Tuesday by Americans for Carbon Dividends shows that 81 percent of likely voters — including 71 percent of moderate Republicans and 58 percent of conservative Republicans — agree the government should take action to limit carbon emissions. And by a 2-to-1 margin, likely voters support taxing carbon emissions and rebating the money directly to the American people. Support for this concept among Republicans is similarly strong, with Republicans favoring the dividends plan by a 23-point margin.

There are various policy details that will need to be addressed. But this is the only realistic, workable path now open to us if we want to solve one of the most daunting challenges of our time. We must put a meaningful price on carbon in America, and then convince the rest of the world to follow our lead.

To do so, we must set our politics aside for the greater good. America has done it before, time after time. We believe the country will do so again.

There are various policy details that will need to be addressed. But this is the only realistic, workable path now open to us if we want to solve one of the most daunting challenges of our time. We must put a meaningful price on carbon in America, and then convince the rest of the world to follow our lead.

To do so, we must set our politics aside for the greater good. America has done it before, time after time. We believe the country will do so again.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:25:15pm

re: #43 JordanRules

Whoa!

And yet again I’m reminded who has been on the right side of history, who has been doing the work.

I wish more people got it.

Credit where due, Rep. Pete Olson, R, was the one who led the inquiry into Shiloh (and the creep who owns it had another horrible center, Daystar, before that.) I’m sad that this place was contracted by ORR during the Obama years—sounds terrible. Here’s the Houston Chronicle article about it from 2014.

houstonchronicle.com

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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:27:47pm

Republicans in Congress, again, working against people and for their richest donors, with an extra bit old-fashioned McCarthyism added in:

House Republican expands attack on environmental groups’ global work

A top congressional Republican is ratcheting up his campaign against prominent U.S. environmental organizations, an effort critics are likening to a return of McCarthyism. So far, House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Rob Bishop (R-UT) has singled out two environmental groups well-known for their effective advocacy and legal work to protect the environment.

[…]

Since its founding in 1989, the Center for Biological Diversity has been one of the most effective environmental groups at protecting ecosystems and endangered species. Bishop’s claims against the organization come after the group targeted him as one of the worst members of Congress on issues related to public lands and the environment.

[…]

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wheat-dogg  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:29:22pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Three days from now I will have been registered at LGF for 8 years.

My 8-year anniversary was just three weeks ago, May 31. Time flies.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:30:28pm

re: #64 austin_blue

More “Free Market” bullshit? HELL FUCKING NO!!!

We need Draconian regulation and we need it 40 years ago.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:30:29pm

re: #63 Kragar

Whats that you’re saying whippersnapper?

I was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind…

Wait, crap, wrong script.

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Teukka  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:30:34pm

And my response:

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:39:07pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:40:57pm

re: #71 MsJ

People who know Russian should send him suitably profane messages.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:45:22pm

Thread.

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Varek Raith  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:47:32pm

re: #73 MsJ

Thread.

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That’s some bad crazy there.

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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:56:58pm

The age of genetic engineering is here, and I wonder if many in our society are ready:

Scientists genetically engineer pigs immune to costly disease

Pigs have often been a target for genetic engineering efforts, both because pork is an important global food source, and because you and I are more like pigs than many of us may be willing to admit.

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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:57:48pm

To emphasize: the only reason we do not have genetically engineered humans today are issues over ethics, some of these issues being enshrined into laws.

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2018 • 10:58:16pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

I was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind…

Wait, crap, wrong script.

//

You have always been here.

/enigmatic wheezing

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wheat-dogg  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:02:16pm

Going shopping. BBL.

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:02:31pm
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Teukka  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:03:20pm

re: #74 Varek Raith

That’s some bad crazy there.

Industrial strength crazy.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:04:33pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Politics on Facebook was summed up perfectly by our own goddamnedfrank, on Twitter.

I am the fucking best thanks for noticing.

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Teukka  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:04:36pm

re: #79 Kragar

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:09:22pm

re: #82 Teukka

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He said “your President”, and it sure as fuck isn’t him.

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freetoken  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:30:06pm
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Teukka  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:32:44pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:53:03pm
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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 21, 2018 • 11:54:07pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Happy Another Notch In Yet Belt Day! Keep on truckin… :)

re: #40 teleskiguy

I read a lot but only post at two places right now, this being one if them. I haven’t been posting much lately as life has been keeping me real busy, which is better than constantly dwelling on the mess we are in. I read, I don’t watch TV much, so I stay well informed on what the latest disaster is.

This place is one of the best places to find out what is up. If Charles hasn’t posted on the latest ‘it’, someone has in the comments here.

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unproven innocence  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:22:34am

re: #72 wheat-dogg

People who know Russian should send him suitably profane messages.

It is my understanding that Manafort never learned (much) Russian, and therefore depended heavily on Konstantin Kilimnik to translate, calling KK his “Russian brain”.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:33:04am

re: #88 unproven innocence

It is my understanding that Manafort never learned (much) Russian, and therefore depended heavily on Konstantin Kilimnik to translate, calling KK his “Russian brain”.

Probably there aren’t many Russian speakers in that jail, I’m guessing. Still, the notes might make him worry a little that his Russian pals haven’t spiked his food with something nasty.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:38:57am
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Lidane  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:49:03am

re: #10 Ace Rothstein

OOC, whatever happened to Lidane?

*waves*

Hola! I’m alive. Just been crazy busy with work and life. Twitter helps, since I can blow off steam quickly. Heh.

At work we got the dreaded news from the C-suite that the company was going to go through a “corporate reorganization” over the next year and I saw the writing on the wall. The proposed new org chart would’ve effectively neutered my job and turned me into a glorified copywriter, so I immediately started sending out resumes. I’ve been freelancing since February and am actively interviewing for new roles. Some good prospects are on the horizon. :)

My mom’s permanently in a nursing home now and I’ve gone back and forth visiting her as much as I can. She still remembers me, which is good, but watching her decline is painful as hell.

Sorry if I worried anyone by not being around. I’ll start coming around more often. I’ve missed this place. :)

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:49:48am

re: #90 Single-handed sailor

I dropped my Democratic Party Primary ballot off at the 24 hour ballot collector (drive-up) about 12 hours ago. We’ll see how that goes.

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:54:43am

This trial balloon sent up:

Revealed - UK plan to lavish Donald Trump with post-Brexit state visit and Second World War event

Whitehall officials want Donald Trump to take part in Second World War commemorations during a post-Brexit visit to Britain next year, it can be revealed.

National Security Adviser Sir Mark Sedwill and US Ambassador to Britain Woody Johnson discussed a plan to bring the President to the UK early next year.

It came as Johnson demanded Brits stop being “pessimistic” and “defeatist” about Brexit.

[…]

Many Brit media outlets seem to be running with headlines on this that are intended to shock, I think.

Yet the bit of the story that stands out to me is how the US ambassador to the UK is trying to be a mini-Trump in telling the Brits how to feel about Brexit.

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Cheechako  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:56:07am

Now, time to end a day with an uplifting story from Alaska. This heroic dog did not know the injured hiker and was out on the trail by itself.

‘I’ll never forget him’: Alaskan husky rescues injured hiker crossing frigid Eagle River along Crow Pass Trail

A 7-year-old Alaskan husky named Nanook is being credited with helping rescue a cold, injured hiker Wednesday night in the Eagle River Valley.

“He’s Alaska’s version of Lassie,” said Lt. Eric Olsen with the Alaska State Troopers.

According to Olsen, a trooper helicopter was launched shortly after 6:15 p.m. Wednesday when the agency received a report that an emergency locator beacon had been activated near the Eagle River along the Crow Pass Trail. When Olsen and pilot Tab Burnett arrived, they found a wet and injured Amelia Milling alongside the river accompanied by a white dog. Both were airlifted to Anchorage, where Milling, 21, was treated for bumps and bruises and released.

Olsen said Milling told them that, after sustaining injuries a day earlier, she had fallen while trying to cross the Eagle River. That was when Nanook sprang into action, helping pull her from the glacier-fed river, which is typically between thigh- and waist-deep on most hikers this time of year.

Finish the story at the link to get the complete details.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:56:23am

re: #92 teleskiguy

In the governors primary, I really wanted to vote for Cary Kennedy. She is a committed progressive with all kinds of government experience. I voted for Jared Polis, who’s leaving Congress to be governor of Colorado.

And damn it, he can buy the election if he wants. Polis is worth a half billion dollars by some estimates. Right now he’s one of the wealthiest members of Congress.

It’s a Citizens United political atmosphere. So I voted accordingly in the Colorado governors primary.

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Lidane  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:01:37am

re: #57 teleskiguy

Something funny, and true. My Facebook feed is my Epcot Centre version of me. No politics! Lots of music! Funny pictures! Look at my family, aren’t they great?!? My Twitter is the exact opposite, it is political as all fuck.

My Facebook feed is practically nonexistent aside from occasional posts if I see a movie or something. I spend so much time looking at Facebook for work I can’t bring myself to post there much, and I have too many crazy conservative relatives to talk politics on FB.

My Twitter feed is RT heavy but definitely political. I’m not shy about blasting my opinions on there.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:02:06am

re: #92 teleskiguy

I dropped my Democratic Party Primary ballot off at the 24 hour ballot collector (drive-up) about 12 hours ago. We’ll see how that goes.

In Colorado we have all mail-in ballots. It should be that way across the Union. It should be *easy* to vote.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:05:08am

re: #97 teleskiguy

In Colorado we have all mail-in ballots. It should be that way across the Union. It should be *easy* to vote.

And if you miss the window to mail your ballot in, you can physically take it to one of five drop boxes across the county. That’s what I did today, went to the drive-up box in the county seat and dropped that shit in a box. Then I drove to work.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:07:37am

re: #93 freetoken

This trial balloon sent up:

Revealed - UK plan to lavish Donald Trump with post-Brexit state visit and Second World War event

Many Brit media outlets seem to be running with headlines on this that are intended to shock, I think.

Yet the bit of the story that stands out to me is how the US ambassador to the UK is trying to be a mini-Trump in telling the Brits how to feel about Brexit.

What do you want to bet the Queen refuses to meet with him? She’s probably out of fucks to give at this point.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:11:33am

re: #98 teleskiguy

And if you miss the window to mail your ballot in, you can physically take it to one of five drop boxes across the county. That’s what I did today, went to the drive-up box in the county seat and dropped that shit in a box. Then I drove to work.

Our nearest dropoff box is four blocks away. I always say I’m going to walk our ballots over there, but I always just wind up slapping stamps on them and putting them in the mail.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:13:38am

re: #100 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Our nearest dropoff box is four blocks away. I always say I’m going to walk our ballots over there, but I always just wind up slapping stamps on them and putting them in the mail.

Today was the day that if you didn’t put your ballot in the mail, you have to drop off the ballots in the boxes. The primary is on Tuesday.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:19:14am

re: #101 teleskiguy

Today was the day that if you didn’t put your ballot in the mail, you have to drop off the ballots in the boxes. The primary is on Tuesday.

Hmm…ours are valid as long as they’re postmarked before midnight on election day.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:24:03am

re: #102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hmm…ours are valid as long as they’re postmarked before midnight on election day.

Hey, I might be wrong. I check Twitter often. I might have received some Russian bot bullshit. Checking…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:26:08am

Anyway, I always say everybody should have mail-in voting, but in some parts of the country I could see Republican operatives rifling mailboxes in the “wrong” parts of town. And apartment complexes—dozens or hundreds of ballots at once!

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:31:27am

re: #99 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What do you want to bet the Queen refuses to meet with him? She’s probably out of fucks to give at this point.

Or does meet with him, and brings Harry and Megan along as anger translators?

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:45:22am

I still prefer polling places. Such strike me as more reinforcing of the idea that voting is a social activity.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:45:46am

re: #99 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What do you want to bet the Queen refuses to meet with him? She’s probably out of fucks to give at this point.

You can be sure that no matter what his handlers tell him about decorum when meeting Her Majesty, Trump will either ignore the instructions or will have forgotten them by the time he meets her. He’ll probably give her some Starbursts and comment about what a nice empire she used to have.

It might be better for both countries if Her Majesty develops a sudden head cold, and hands the duties off to her git of a son.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:47:56am

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Anyway, I always say everybody should have mail-in voting, but in some parts of the country I could see Republican operatives rifling mailboxes in the “wrong” parts of town. And apartment complexes—dozens or hundreds of ballots at once!

You’re putting trust in the US Postal Service to maintain the secrecy and reliability of those ballots.

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Kragar  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:49:23am

re: #106 freetoken

I still prefer polling places. Such strike me as more reinforcing of the idea that voting is a social activity.

I prefer waiting till election day for any last minute developments.

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:51:49am

Even after all these years of seeing how popular media articles misconstrue science discoveries, I still can’t help but wonder how the writers/editors can get basic ideas so wrong.

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:55:25am

re: #109 Kragar

There’s something about going to the polling place that feels proper for me.

I pretty much have known who I was going to vote for since the 2002 election, so last-minute surprises really haven’t been an issue for me.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:06:10am

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fern01  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:07:16am

re: #93 freetoken

This trial balloon sent up:

Revealed - UK plan to lavish Donald Trump with post-Brexit state visit and Second World War event

Many Brit media outlets seem to be running with headlines on this that are intended to shock, I think.

Yet the bit of the story that stands out to me is how the US ambassador to the UK is trying to be a mini-Trump in telling the Brits how to feel about Brexit.

The protests - if trump enters the UK - will be out of the park stunning. The people will not go quietly into the night.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:24:07am

The US, late to both world wars, late to war on climate change.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:26:22am
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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:27:47am

re: #113 fern01

Oh god. I haven’t been paying enough attention to THAT side of the pond. I mean, I’ve been paying attention to Farage and UKIP and Tommy Robinson…but not what hell WE have been stirring up over there.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:35:26am

re: #116 I cannot.

Oh god. I haven’t been paying enough attention to THAT side of the pond. I mean, I’ve been paying attention to Farage and UKIP and Tommy Robinson…but not what hell WE have been stirring up over there.

if this event isn’t until next year, by that time it might be political suicide even for a Conservative government to invite tRump. But how do you disinvite a President* of the United States?

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 3:01:13am

re: #99 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What do you want to bet the Queen refuses to meet with him? She’s probably out of fucks to give at this point.

I’m pretty sure the Queen’s political views are all “Decline to State”.

The closest any of the Royals get to publicly expressing opinions is by their choice of which issues their charities address.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 22, 2018 • 3:19:19am

LOL!!

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 3:39:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2018 • 4:35:38am

moron is awake

shilling books:

math is hard:

PRODUCE!!! (it’s all fruits and veggies…)

kick the can until the Red Wave…good fucking grief…

BeachDem, watch out…they’re coming to a town near you

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 22, 2018 • 4:42:05am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone should tell Trump that since the Democrats are using Blue Wave, Trump should call his supporters the Red Tide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2018 • 4:43:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2018 • 4:45:36am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 4:45:52am

re: #52 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:03:27am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:04:26am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is awake

shilling books:

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:07:36am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump was at it this morning slamming the GOP for their complete failure/inability to do a vote on their latest immigration bill.

They don’t have the votes.
They don’t have the votes.

They aren’t doing anything to try and get votes from Democrats, because to do so would mean that the extremist vision of immigration - complete with the notion that nonwhites aren’t welcome - dies. So the GOP can’t have that and they’re still trying to blame Democrats for their failure when they’re in control.

Trump now wants more GOPers in office, and quickly backtracks that we’ll get his agenda done anyways.

Trump’s message to GOPers: stay home. We got this covered. Okay… sure.

For everyone else, it is absolutely critical to get out and vote. There are still primaries to be had. There are local elections. There are the midterms. Make sure you’re registered to vote. Make sure that you haven’t been pulled from the voter rolls.

Vote. That’s how we start to roll back this menace.

And at the same time, we need to be vocal and keep pointing out all the awful/evil things Trump is doing that gets deflected/obfuscated by things like Melania’s jacket.

Trump still wants to detain families indefinitely, despite fact that they’re claiming asylum, which is a legal means to enter the US. He just doesn’t want nonwhites entering and there’s selective nature of enforcement that goes with this.

Trump also has no clue or care how to reunite all the families he broke up. DHS, ICE, DOJ are all looking at each other and are like you do it. None are doing it. So these families remain separated. Trump’s fine with it, because it’s not his pain. He’s the one who inflicted the suffering to act as a deterrent against others coming here. That’s what Kelly and Miller said on the record. That’s the policy.

This is all on Trump. It’s all on the GOP. And they would love to punt it to after the midterms, because it changes the conversation. We can’t and shouldn’t let it.

It’s not who we want to be, but right now, this is what our nation is and represents. Trump has turned us into America Alone and a pariah in under 2 years. His sociopathic methods and madness are undermining our national security, our alliances, our partnerships, and into that void Russia, China, and others are sure to exploit it and further their interests at our expense.

That too is on Trump and the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:10:23am

Aerospace firm Airbus has said it could pull out of the UK if there is a “no-deal” Brexit.

It could mean the loss of thousands of jobs. The company, which employs 14,000 people at 25 sites across the country, said it would “reconsider its investments in the UK, and its long-term footprint in the country” if Britain crashed out of the single market and customs union without a transition agreement.

It could spell disaster for the economy of north Wales with more than 6,000 workers at the wing assembly plant in Broughton.

There are thousands more roles in the supply chain.

The company published a risk assessment on its website outlining what it says are the urgent risks arising from the UK exiting the European Union without a withdrawal agreement.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:20:17am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:24:25am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They look like high school kids to me. MS13 soldiers? The fuck?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:26:34am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

A belated Happy Birthday!!

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:28:03am

Morning!

Does Donny Trump wake up in the mornings on a rage high so he furiously tweets crazy stuff…and then he gets his morning meds and chills out a bit as the day goes on and the drugs calm him down a bit?

Sure seems like it.

And I like baby ducks…so cute to watch them waddle along following mom.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:29:00am

re: #130 lawhawk

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HOW DARE YOU CALL US “TEABAGGERS”!!!!

Well, it’s what you called yourselves till you found out what it meant.

NUH UH!!!!!!

Documentation….

NUH UH TIMEZ INFINITY, LIBTARD!!!! IMMA GET YOU BANNED FOR USING SUCH AN OFFENSIVE TERM!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:31:23am

re: #133 ObserverArt

Morning!

Does Donny Trump wake up in the mornings on a rage high so he furiously tweets crazy stuff…and then he gets his morning meds and chills out a bit as the day goes on and the drugs calm him down a bit?

Sure seems like it.

And I like baby ducks…so cute to watch them waddle along following mom.

I dunno. But the morning tweets are always the most rage filled and hard to understand.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:39:04am

‘Morning, all.

I got to the point yesterday that I was about to start smashing things if I kept reading the news, so my wife and I bagged the afternoon and drove out to the Brooklyn Museum to finally get a look at ‘David Bowie Is,’ which is ending its run on July 15.

That portrait is in the entrance to the exhibit, and it’s about 12 feet tall. I really wish I could have photographed the exhibit itself, but no photography was allowed.

So much stuff. Costumes from every phase of Bowie’s career, old promotional materials, song lyrics, production notes, personal correspondence and tour itineraries, stage props, with some amazing photos and videos from Bowie’s archive. Seeing it all in one place was nearly overwhelming. At the end of it all was a small display of lyrics from ‘Blackstar,’ along with the book Bowie held in the ‘Blackstar’ video and storyboards for both ‘Blackstar’ and ‘Lazarus.’

In the course of the exhibit, Bowie’s transformation from a guarded, private artiste (not always by his design - his manager Tony DeFries intentionally kept him away from the public that loved him) to a man who became so open and gregarious on stage that he could not contain that beautiful smile was especially striking. It’s as if having the perspective on that long, amazing career filled him with joy.

I don’t know if they have plans to take it on the road, but if they do and it comes to your town, you must go. It is an awesome retrospective.

I miss him even more after seeing the exhibit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:42:39am

re: #95 teleskiguy

In the governors primary, I really wanted to vote for Cary Kennedy. She is a committed progressive with all kinds of government experience. I voted for Jared Polis, who’s leaving Congress to be governor of Colorado.

And damn it, he can buy the election if he wants. Polis is worth a half billion dollars by some estimates. Right now he’s one of the wealthiest members of Congress.

It’s a Citizens United political atmosphere. So I voted accordingly in the Colorado governors primary.

Only a half-billion? He’d have no chance against our billionaire Democratic candidate Jay Pritzker!! At least your guy has some real government experience.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:43:05am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

Today, which is now tomorrow (friday) is mrs dm’s birthday

a month ago they were slicing out a lobe of her lungs.

yesterday she started considering walking a 5k on july 4th

happy friday to us, every one
we are here

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fern01  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:43:43am

re: #116 I cannot.

Oh god. I haven’t been paying enough attention to THAT side of the pond. I mean, I’ve been paying attention to Farage and UKIP and Tommy Robinson…but not what hell WE have been stirring up over there.

Not just the UK, all over the world. trump cannot go to any democracy without a protest from the population - which is why he goes to NK, protesting not allowed.

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fern01  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:45:14am

re: #118 sagehen

I’m pretty sure the Queen’s political views are all “Decline to State”.

The closest any of the Royals get to publicly expressing opinions is by their choice of which issues their charities address.

I think she would make an exception for trump - and no way will she meet him. It is NOT usual for a royal wedding to invite zero heads of state. That was the solution to not inviting trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:46:43am

re: #140 fern01

I think she would make an exception for trump - and no way will she meet him. It is NOT usual for a royal wedding to invite zero heads of state. That was the solution to not inviting trump.

And noone was insulted—because they all knew why. Except tRump, of course.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:52:27am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Happy birthday yesterday!

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:53:12am
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:53:46am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:54:57am

re: #144 Belafon

DT will complain as he always does. I personally like the idea.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:56:01am

re: #145 PhillyPretzel

DT will complain as he always does. I personally like the idea.

I’d stand and applaud if my state followed suit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 5:56:40am

re: #144 Belafon

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Good. He wasn’t going to win RI anyhow but that’ll sting his ego.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:00:29am

From PBS Newshour last night, here’s the new owner of the LA Times explaining why he spent 500 million to try and resurrect the paper. “‘Journalists are our lifeblood,’ new Los Angeles Times owner says” Important to note - he grew up in South Africa under apartheid.

‘Journalists are our lifeblood,’ new Los Angeles Times owner says

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:01:35am

re: #106 freetoken

I still prefer polling places. Such strike me as more reinforcing of the idea that voting is a social activity.

I’m not a big fan of mail-in voting although for people with serious health issues, it may be the only option. There is no guarantee that the ballot is actually cast by the person registered. Years ago, I learned that a cousin voted on behalf of his ailing mother and his votes were exactly the opposite of what she would have done. People could move out of state and someone aware of this could vote on their behalf.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:04:02am

Believing that the past is prologue, they search online archives for nuggets about the ancestors of public figures and politicians who disparage today’s immigrants. They use tools they developed as a personal hobby to make the point that people like Miller are holding newcomers to a standard that their own forebears could not meet.

“Unless your ancestors came on a slave ship or you’re Native American,” you came here as an immigrant, says Jennifer Mendelsohn, who created the #resistancegenealogy hashtag last summer after Republican congressman Steve King or Iowa was quoted as saying “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.” So she went on a genealogy website and quickly documented that King’s own grandmother was one such baby, arriving in 1894 from Germany as a 4-year-old, along with her infant siblings.

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jeffreyw  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:05:08am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:06:29am

re: #144 Belafon

The Hill

@thehill
Rhode Island bill would keep Trump off 2020 ballot unless he files his tax returns hill.cm
7:58 PM - Jun 21, 2018
277 277 Replies 1,785 1,785 Retweets 6,442 6,442 likes

I’m all in favor of candidates being forced to reveal at least the past 20 years of tax returns.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:06:33am

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not a big fan of mail-in voting although for people with serious health issues, it may be the only option. There is no guarantee that the ballot is actually cast by the person registered. Years ago, I learned that a cousin voted on behalf of his ailing mother and his votes were exactly the opposite of what she would have done. People could move out of state and someone aware of this could vote on their behalf.

He’d have to be pretty good at forging her signature here, or the machine would spit it out. And once a human looked at it and determined it didn’t match the signature on file, they’d investigate.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:07:04am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:07:39am

re: #150 lawhawk

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As an amateur genealogist, it amuses me how many of these people in and outside the administration have stuff like this going on. I’m sure it’s common. I’ve found a lot more genealogy records for my family than most Americans and I still haven’t found everything. I don’t judge because I don’t know the full story and you know what, I never will. But this much I do know. I know that great grandmother was pregnant with a grand uncle when she arrived in 1910. I know that a second great grandfather along with his siblings and parents as a small boy arrived from Ireland in a coffin ship. I know that his mother despite spending over 50 years here never spoke English.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:12:23am

re: #154 I Would Prefer Not To

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Boy, that little Honduran girl is already as famous as the Vietnamese girl burned by napalm. I sure hope things turn out better for her.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:12:24am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

What the article points out is that it’s real easy to dig up this info on pretty much everyone in Trumpworld. Few can trace back as far as the Mayflower. So, unless you’re a Native American or descended from slaves, claiming that you have a right to be here and others don’t is all an accident of birth.

Denying others the right to enter and become citizens based on race/heritage is a longstanding nativist streak that has tainted immigration policy for decades. Trump’s revived it in the worst way, and has indisputably advanced white supremacist/nationalist policies as a result.

It’s a policy based on fear - because they fear that minorities are coming in and will have the rights that white guys have always had, and that they will no longer be able to control things the way they once did.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:14:58am

re: #157 lawhawk

What the article points out is that it’s real easy to dig up this info on pretty much everyone in Trumpworld. Few can trace back as far as the Mayflower. So, unless you’re a Native American or descended from slaves, claiming that you have a right to be here and others don’t is all an accident of birth.

Denying others the right to enter and become citizens based on race/heritage is a longstanding nativist streak that has tainted immigration policy for decades. Trump’s revived it in the worst way, and has indisputably advanced white supremacist/nationalist policies as a result.

It’s a policy based on fear - because they fear that minorities are coming in and will have the rights that white guys have always had, and that they will no longer be able to control things the way they once did.

Exactly. But yeah a little bit of research goes a long way in this. I don’t feel as if I have a divine right to be here. I know were not if for some twists, I could easily have been German, Slovene, Irish, or Slovak. I’ve gotten to know cousins from three of those four countries and my summer vacation will include meeting the Slovak ones in person for the first time in the village where my grandmother’s father’s family lived for generations.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:15:47am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

As an amateur genealogist, it amuses me how many of these people in and outside the administration have stuff like this going on. I’m sure it’s common. I’ve found a lot more genealogy records for my family than most Americans and I still haven’t found everything. I don’t judge because I don’t know the full story and you know what, I never will. But this much I do know. I know that great grandmother was pregnant with a grand uncle when she arrived in 1910. I know that a second great grandfather along with his siblings and parents as a small boy arrived from Ireland in a coffin ship. I know that his mother despite spending over 50 years here never spoke English.

Except the administration does not object at all to immigration — as long as it’s white Christian European immigrants. My brother supports immigrants of all nationalities as long as they are wealthy and can buy their way in; none of this “Give me your tired, your poor” nonsense.

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Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:19:54am

Question:
Would posting the contact info to the prosecutors in the Hague be out of line?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:21:07am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

Except the administration does not object at all to immigration — as long as it’s white Christian European immigrants. My brother supports immigrants of all nationalities as long as they are wealthy and can buy their way in; none of this “Give me your tired, your poor” nonsense.

Oh I know. But I will add something. There are definitely elements within the administration and Congress that do oppose legal immigration. Read up on the RAISE Act sponsored by Cotton/Perdue with Trump’s approval.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:21:42am

Sessions has long opposed legal immigration as well. They tell you they’re “against” illegal immigration but then you scratch the surface and see the reality.

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:22:54am

My dad’s parents came here in the mid-1920’s — I don’t know if they were legal, it was after the 1924 racist quota bill, but maybe they had visas. possibly.

I do know for sure they didn’t speak any English. They weren’t any kind of Christian. They had 6th-grade educations, and did low-wage work. Whatever taxes they may have paid were nowhere close to the cost of their kids attending public school, and receiving medical care at public hospitals. They were criminals; their religious observances required wine several times a week, but they were too paranoid to put their names on the Prohibition-exemption special Jew lists.

But their offspring… were two doctors, two lawyers, and the founder/owner of a specialty auto-parts business. All of whom paid income tax in the highest bracket for 40-50 years each. Each one of whose work (even aside from taxes) provided more benefit to society and to the nation than the costs of absorbing all of them into our polity.

ETA: and oh yeah — the taxpayers of New York City also paid for dad’s undergrad degree. City College at that time was 0 tuition; he didn’t even have to buy books, since the library was 24-hour.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:24:44am

re: #160 Teukka

History tells me no emails no phones no matter what. Link to contact pages url’s seems to be best.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:26:46am

Is there an award for the most PhotoShopped looking real untouched photo?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:27:37am

re: #165 Unshaken Defiance

Not that I know of.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:29:26am

re: #166 PhillyPretzel

Perhaps it’s time has come. The Adobe PhotoReal Award.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:33:22am

re: #163 sagehen

My dad’s parents came here in the mid-1920’s — I don’t know if they were legal, it was after the 1924 racist quota bill, but maybe they had visas. possibly.

I do know for sure they didn’t speak any English. They weren’t any kind of Christian. They had 6th-grade educations, and did low-wage work. Whatever taxes they may have paid were nowhere close to the cost of their kids attending public school, and receiving medical care at public hospitals. They were criminals; their religious observances required wine several times a week, but they were too paranoid to put their names on the Prohibition-exemption special Jew lists.

But their offspring… were two doctors, two lawyers, and the founder/owner of a specialty auto-parts business. All of whom paid income tax in the highest bracket for 40-50 years each. Each one of whose work (even aside from taxes) provided more benefit to society and to the nation than the costs of absorbing all of them into our polity.

Steve Jobs father was a Syrian immigrant. The economic value added by Jobs all by himself outweighs by orders of magnitude the damage done by criminals or terrorist immigrants from Muslim countries.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:33:54am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Sessions has long opposed legal immigration as well. They tell you they’re “against” illegal immigration but then you scratch the surface and see the reality.

Trump seems to oppose all immigration as well. America is only for “Americans,” in his view. He was tweeting yesterday about how the “millions” of immigrants have to be stopped before they destroy the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:34:20am

re: #168 Big Beautiful Door

Steve Jobs father was a Syrian immigrant. The economic value added by Jobs all by himself outweighs by orders of magnitude the damage done by criminals or terrorist immigrants from Muslim countries.

Refugee even I think too.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:34:24am

re: #165 Unshaken Defiance

Is there an award for the most PhotoShopped looking real untouched photo?

You mean aside from HDR uglies?

(you’re probably looking for this “/” but there aren’t any. Shudder)

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:34:44am

re: #169 wheat-dogg

We need the immigrants to save the USA from DT.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:34:47am

re: #169 wheat-dogg

Trump seems to oppose all immigration as well. America is only for “Americans,” in his view. He was tweeting yesterday about how the “millions” of immigrants have to be stopped before they destroy the USA.

“We have to stop eating before we die of hunger!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:34:49am

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Exactly. But yeah a little bit of research goes a long way in this. I don’t feel as if I have a divine right to be here. I know were not if for some twists, I could easily have been German, Slovene, Irish, or Slovak. I’ve gotten to know cousins from three of those four countries and my summer vacation will include meeting the Slovak ones in person for the first time in the village where my grandmother’s father’s family lived for generations.

That should be fun! When are you leaving?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:37:27am

re: #174 Big Beautiful Door

That should be fun! When are you leaving?

August 11-25. Yeah it’s going to be awesome. I’m meeting up with some American cousins im Bratislava- grandchildren of my grandmother’s aunt and the cousins we will be meeting will be her uncle’s descendants. We timed our trip to coincide with the village’s annual weekly festival. Traditional music, food, etc. I can’t wait.

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:37:57am

Okeanos Explorer is at the continental shelf margin, east of Charleston, S.C., today:

Windows to the Deep 2018 (Camera 1)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:38:06am

re: #169 wheat-dogg

Trump seems to oppose all immigration as well. America is only for “Americans,” in his view. He was tweeting yesterday about how the “millions” of immigrants have to be stopped before they destroy the USA.

Yep. He’s only okay with immigrants that fuck him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:39:34am

Hmmmmm.

Where did Scott Pruitt’s e-mails go?

If his government email record is to be believed, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has sent a grand total of one email to anyone outside of the EPA in his first 10 months on the job, causing watchdogs concern as they try to figure out how else he is communicating and if he’s covering his tracks.

According to a Friday Politico report, EPA spokespeople maintain that Pruitt prefers to conduct business in person or over the phone, accounting for the microscopic body of correspondence.

Outside groups counter that it is highly unlikely that someone who meets as frequently with political allies and industry bigwigs as Pruitt would have sent only one email to those external contacts. Some reportedly point out that he also has a history of using private email while serving as Oklahoma’s attorney general and of keeping ethically dubious meetings off the public record.

In addition, his call log is suspiciously empty for the head of a large agency who supposedly conducts the bulk of his business via phone.

So is Gowdy Doody going to do an investigation of Scotty’s missing e-mails???

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:40:41am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Sessions has long opposed legal immigration as well. They tell you they’re “against” illegal immigration but then you scratch the surface and see the reality.

Yeah total BS. Can’t believe Cornyn tweeted out the other day the line that R’s supposedly support “legal” immigration. When they say ‘legal’ immigration they really mean like 8 immigrants.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:40:45am

re: #139 fern01

Not just the UK, all over the world. trump cannot go to any democracy without a protest from the population - which is why he goes to NK, protesting not allowed.

He actually met Kim in Singapore, but its an authoritarian state too, so your point is accurate.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:41:50am

re: #178 Joe Bacon 🌹

Excellent question. So the question should be: What about his emails instead of what about her emails?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:42:19am

re: #178 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmmm.

Where did Scott Pruitt’s e-mails go?

If his government email record is to be believed, EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has sent a grand total of one email to anyone outside of the EPA in his first 10 months on the job, causing watchdogs concern as they try to figure out how else he is communicating and if he’s covering his tracks.

According to a Friday Politico report, EPA spokespeople maintain that Pruitt prefers to conduct business in person or over the phone, accounting for the microscopic body of correspondence.

Outside groups counter that it is highly unlikely that someone who meets as frequently with political allies and industry bigwigs as Pruitt would have sent only one email to those external contacts. Some reportedly point out that he also has a history of using private email while serving as Oklahoma’s attorney general and of keeping ethically dubious meetings off the public record.

In addition, his call log is suspiciously empty for the head of a large agency who supposedly conducts the bulk of his business via phone.

So is Gowdy Doody going to do an investigation of Scotty’s missing e-mails???

Is the Pope Mormon?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:43:03am

re: #180 Big Beautiful Door

He actually met Kim in Singapore, but its an authoritarian state too, so your point is accurate.

That’s an important point. Singapore is pretty locked down in terms of public protests. It’s not quite as bad as China, for example, but Singapore is not what you’d call a free-wheeling democracy.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:43:42am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is awake

shilling books:

Well, every Faux News shrill is required to write a “book” in defense of DrumpF. There are like two others out at the same time.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:44:44am

re: #183 wheat-dogg

That’s an important point. Singapore is pretty locked down in terms of public protests. It’s not quite as bad as China, for example, but Singapore is not what you’d call a free-wheeling democracy.

In the memorable title of William Gibson’s story, “Disneyland With The Death Penalty”.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:45:55am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Governor Henry McMaster is a truly fine man who loves the People of South Carolina. He was one of my very early supporters

The latter being the only really important thing for DJT

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:46:43am

re: #184 Sir John Barron

Well, every Faux News shrill is required to write a “book” in defense of DrumpF. There are like two others out at the same time.

Tucker has one out or about to come out. There’s another one about how the Russia investigation is a “hoax”.

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:47:22am

Remember, Trump is a symptom, not a cause.

Here’s an example of the underlying problem:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:47:54am

Well, whaddayaknow?

Susie Snowflake chimes in…and gets roasted on Twitter…

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Dizzy  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:48:45am

Holy…..!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:49:20am

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, whaddayaknow?

Susie Snowflake chimes in…and gets roasted on Twitter…

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Anybody call her a feckless cunt?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:49:32am

re: #188 freetoken

Remember, Trump is a symptom, not a cause.

Here’s an example of the underlying problem:

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Oh? But they’re not hateful.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:49:39am

This is interesting. Researchers plugging ranges of probability instead of guesses into the Drake Equation predict there is a high probability that we are the only technological species in the galaxy. But the possibility of others isn’t zero, so we should keep looking!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:50:51am

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, whaddayaknow?

Susie Snowflake chimes in…and gets roasted on Twitter…

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Maybe admit you were wrong Susan. BTW HRC has done more on this than your pal Bernie and he’s actually in office.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:51:55am

re: #193 Big Beautiful Door

This is interesting. Researchers plugging ranges of probability instead of guesses into the Drake Equation predict there is a high probability that we are the only technological species in the galaxy. But the possibility of others isn’t zero, so we should keep looking!

Another good reason to move out of the neighborhood.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:53:35am

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, whaddayaknow?

Susie Snowflake chimes in…and gets roasted on Twitter…

I’m waiting for Dr. Jill to weigh in.

/////

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:54:26am

re: #190 Dizzy

Holy…..!

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Sure. Why not?

The rate the wheels are flying off of this fucking country is frightening.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:55:40am
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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:56:04am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Oh? But they’re not hateful.

Not that they’ll care or pay attention, but they’ll find this in their email today…

Someone, please show him a bible, because it is obvious from his
fruits that he does not know the Lord, Christ Jesus, and instead is
only interested in secular power and wealth.

He desperately needs to repent and be born again for his souls sake
and those of the children of god he is leading astray with his errors.

Remember Matthew 18:6. God will remember you for all you do or do not
do. If you judge in hatred like the president, you too will be judged
in hatred.

Repent. Be born again - FOR REAL.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:57:04am

re: #198 Big Beautiful Door

In a new interview, the KKKeebler Elf claims the Administration didn’t really intend to separate families.

We aren’t separating them, we are separating them but its good for them. we have to separate them to discourage immigration. It was Obama who separated them. Dems wouldn’t pay for wall so its the Dems that are separating them.

/

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:57:15am

The girl heard pleading for her mother or aunt in the ProPublica audio that was released that started everyone paying attention was identified by her grandmother who lives in El Salvador: dailykos.com.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 6:59:05am

re: #201 Belafon

The girl heard pleading for her mother or aunt in the ProPublica audio that was released that started everyone paying attention was identified by her grandmother who lives in El Salvador: dailykos.com.

“crisis actor…really an MS13 agent….she’s no angel…”

//

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:00:38am

re: #201 Belafon

The girl heard pleading for her mother or aunt in the ProPublica audio that was released that started everyone paying attention was identified by her grandmother who lives in El Salvador: dailykos.com.

Great article at NPR too. npr.org

Video: Separated From Her Mother at the Border, a Six-Year-Old Has to Find Her Own Way

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:03:56am

re: #193 Big Beautiful Door

This is interesting. Researchers plugging ranges of probability instead of guesses into the Drake Equation predict there is a high probability that we are the only technological species in the galaxy. But the possibility of others isn’t zero, so we should keep looking!

It’s a really BIIIIGGG galaxy. I’m sure they’re out there, somewhere, but not close enough to meet them.

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:05:10am

re: #199 William Lewis

Remember Matthew 18:6. God will remember you for all you do or do not
do. If you judge in hatred like the president, you too will be judged
in hatred.

Not really sure I follow this, because I hate that motherfucker Trump with the fury of a million suns, and that was prior to him signing off on kidnapping children. So I’m going to Hell as well?

I guess I’d be worried if I believed in any of this stuff. If there is a God, he’s doing a great job of sitting by and doing jack shit while kids are being permanently taken from their mothers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:06:06am

re: #193 Big Beautiful Door

This is interesting. Researchers plugging ranges of probability instead of guesses into the Drake Equation predict there is a high probability that we are the only technological species in the galaxy. But the possibility of others isn’t zero, so we should keep looking!

Aliens intercepted our radio and TV signals.

They want nothing to do with us. We’re quarantined from the rest of the Universe because we’re too dangerous.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:07:14am

re: #196 Sir John Barron

I’m waiting for Dr. Jill to weigh in.

/////

Jill is too busy planning her next dinner date with her beloved Putin!

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:07:27am

re: #193 Big Beautiful Door

This is interesting. Researchers plugging ranges of probability instead of guesses into the Drake Equation predict there is a high probability that we are the only technological species in the galaxy. But the possibility of others isn’t zero, so we should keep looking!

Build a wall!
No aliens!

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:07:34am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aliens intercepted our radio and TV signals.

They want nothing to do with us. We’re quarantined from the rest of the Universe because we’re too dangerous.

Either that, or someone going to demolish the Earth for some kind of intergalactic highway.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:09:53am

I was just at WHYY’s website and they just have posted that Charles Krauthammer has died.
whyy.org

I did not read the whole article before I posted. He died yesterday.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:10:34am

re: #204 sagehen

It’s a really BIIIIGGG galaxy. I’m sure they’re out there, somewhere, but not close enough to meet them.

Maybe. But remember, for 99.99% of earth’s history, there was no technological civilization here, either. And even if a planet does evolve sentient species, there is no guarantee they will develop a technologically advanced civilization. For example, without large beasts of burden, the farming civilization of the central plateau of New Guinea simply stayed in the Stone Age for thousands of years until contact was made in the 20th century.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:10:43am

re: #205 Mattand

Not really sure I follow this, because I hate that motherfucker Trump with the fury of a million suns, and that was prior to him signing off on kidnapping children. So I’m going to Hell as well?

I guess I’d be worried if I believed in any of this stuff. If there is a God, he’s doing a great job of sitting by and doing jack shit while kids are being permanently taken from their mothers.

Well, for one thing, you are aware of what your doing. There is a difference between opposing evil (pumpkin pinochet) and saying, forex, it’s ok to lock up children in concentration camps because they’re all MS-13 anyway.

God has given US the tools - our hands, our knowledge of good and evil - to fight for what is right. Just as it was kids from Iowa, the shires of England and Ukraine and Russia that were the hands of God in ending the Shoah, we must be the hands of God in opposing this rebirth of evil.

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:11:24am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aliens intercepted our radio and TV signals.

They want nothing to do with us. We’re quarantined from the rest of the Universe because we’re too dangerous.

nah, we’re Mostly Harmless.

But not to worry, we won’t be here long.

“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.”

(and bring a towel)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:11:48am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel

I was just at WHYY’s website and they just have posted that Charles Krauthammer has died.
whyy.org

I’m sorry but I have no sympathy for him.

There’s now one less gasbag apologizing for RepubliKKKlans on 19th Century Fox.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:12:26am

re: #214 Joe Bacon 🌹

You are not the only one.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:15:44am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aliens intercepted our radio and TV signals.

They want nothing to do with us. We’re quarantined from the rest of the Universe because we’re too dangerous.

Or the machines are en-route to put us down like rabid dogs…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:15:54am

re: #212 William Lewis

God has given US the tools - our hands, our knowledge of good and evil - to fight for what is right. Just as it was kids from Iowa, the shires of England and Ukraine and Russia that were the hands of God in ending the Shoah, we must be the hands of God in opposing this rebirth of evil.

The sad truth is that the overwhelming majority of Christians in America march lock step with the man whom a lot of Pulpit Pimps anointed to be our King. And they see nothing wrong with anything he does because God put him in office.

Sure is funny that they didn’t feel that way when The Big G put a black man in the Oval Office.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:17:45am

re: #216 William Lewis

Or the machines are en-route to put us down like rabid dogs…

It just may take a few thousand years for them to get here.

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:17:50am

re: #212 William Lewis

Sorry, I’m just in a foul mood overall, but your god could fix this shit right now if he wanted to. Kind of the whole goddamn point to being all powerful and omnipotent.

Any kind of allegedly real supreme being that lets children be tortured and suffer like this while doing nothing is, at best, callously indifferent. I’m not going to go into at worst because I’m trying to rein it in here, and I’m honestly not trying to nasty to you.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:17:57am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

You are not the only one.

Ditto.

Paving stones to fascism were laid at many of these people including Schmidt and Wallace. Glad they came around…not a drop of sympathy from me.

I read a touching story about Krauthammer yesterday. He reached out to a guy who idolized him and was in an accident leaving him immobile from the chest down. It was a lovely email. It really was. But it was completely emblematic of republican ideology; I can relate to this because it happened to me.

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:18:26am

re: #217 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that the overwhelming majority of Christians in America march lock step with the man whom a lot of Pulpit Pimps anointed to be our King. And they see nothing wrong with anything he does because God put him in office.

Sure is funny that they didn’t feel that way when The Big G put a black man in the Oval Office.

What he said.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:18:40am

re: #217 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that the overwhelming majority of Christians in America march lock step with the man whom a lot of Pulpit Pimps anointed to be our King. And they see nothing wrong with anything he does because God put him in office.

Sure is funny that they didn’t feel that way when The Big G put a black man in the Oval Office.

Just because they are wrong does not excuse the rest of us from our duty to do what is right.

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:19:25am

re: #145 PhillyPretzel

DT will complain as he always does. I personally like the idea.

re: #146 makeitstop

I’d stand and applaud if my state followed suit.

Great idea. I wonder if Johnny Kasich hates Trump enough to do this in Ohio?

He probably does, but then it gives him an advantage should he run. Hmmm. What to do…what to do?!

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:21:01am

re: #219 Mattand

Sorry, I’m just in a foul mood overall, but your god could fix this shit right now if he wanted to. Kind of the whole goddamn point to being all powerful and omnipotent.

Any kind of allegedly real supreme being that lets children be tortured and suffered like this while doing nothing is, at best, callously indifferent. I’m not going to go into at worst because I’m trying to rein it in here, and I’m honestly not trying to nasty to you.

No because that’s the point of Free Will. Either we do it or it doesn’t get done. And if that “doesn’t get done” goes too far, there will be a different species after man and God will try again.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:21:44am

re: #211 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe. But remember, for 99.99% of earth’s history, there was no technological civilization here, either. And even if a planet does evolve sentient species, there is no guarantee they will develop a technologically advanced civilization. For example, without large beasts of burden, the farming civilization of the central plateau of New Guinea simply stayed in the Stone Age for thousands of years until contact was made in the 20th century.

Or that 2 civilization s on 2 planets would mature at the same time

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:24:00am

re: #222 William Lewis

Just because they are wrong does not excuse the rest of us from our duty to do what is right.

Gets rather difficult when the vast majority of churches are openly blocking the road to justice.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:24:35am

re: #213 sagehen

nah, we’re Mostly Harmless.

But not to worry, we won’t be here long.

“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.”

(and bring a towel)

That is yesterday’s sales tax argument to a t

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:25:01am

re: #214 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m sorry but I have no sympathy for him.

There’s now one less gasbag apologizing for RepubliKKKlans on 19th Century Fox.

I kept my powder dry yesterday when Charles mentioned this. Partly because of my aforementioned mood and partly because I’m pissing off too many people around here lately.

That said: sorry for the pain his family is goin though, but when it was mentioned that this fucknut was major Iraq War 2: Electric Boogaloo proponent, what little empathy I could muster evaporated.

Taking the high road is getting really fucking tough these days. That’s part of the reason we’re in this mess: conservatives went all in on playing dirty and ignoring decency to maintain a grip on power. And guess what? It worked.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:26:05am

re: #216 William Lewis

Or the machines are en-route to put us down like rabid dogs…

Maybe Earth is the cage and they just wanted to see what would happen

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:27:54am

Look who got to play editor for the National Perspirer!

During the presidential campaign, National Enquirer executives sent digital copies of the tabloid’s articles and cover images related to Donald Trump and his political opponents to Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen in advance of publication, according to three people with knowledge of the matter — an unusual practice that speaks to the close relationship between Trump and David Pecker, chief executive of American Media Inc., the Enquirer’s parent company.

Although the company strongly denies ever sharing such material before publication, these three individuals say the sharing of material continued after Trump took office.

“Since Trump’s become president and even before, [Pecker] openly just has been willing to turn the magazine and the cover over to the Trump machine,” said one of the people with knowledge of the practice.

During the campaign, “if it was a story specifically about Trump, then it was sent over to Michael, and as long as there were no objections from him, the story could be published,” this person added.

Bottom Line—Mikey was doing the Winston Smith thing!

washingtonpost.com

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:28:11am

re: #219 Mattand

Sorry, I’m just in a foul mood overall, but your god could fix this shit right now if he wanted to. Kind of the whole goddamn point to being all powerful and omnipotent.

Any kind of allegedly real supreme being that lets children be tortured and suffer like this while doing nothing is, at best, callously indifferent. I’m not going to go into at worst because I’m trying to rein it in here, and I’m honestly not trying to nasty to you.

God is smarter and stronger than we are; he’s also established rules that he himself adheres to. That’s the whole point of free will. He gave us brains of our own, some starting advice, and sat back to watch what we do with it.

That’s why when the pulpit pimp Elmer Gantrys say you can’t defy God, or argue with his laws… Jews say “oh yes you can!” There at least 4 places in the scripture where people have felt his pronouncements were unfair, unjust and immoral, and we got right up in his face to say “God, you’re wrong! This is an improper order, and improper decision, and here’s why.” In all four instances God thought about it for a couple of minutes, said “hmmm, you’ve got a point there” and changed his decisions.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:28:15am

re: #217 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that the overwhelming majority of Christians in America march lock step with the man whom a lot of Pulpit Pimps anointed to be our King. And they see nothing wrong with anything he does because God put him in office.

Sure is funny that they didn’t feel that way when The Big G put a black man in the Oval Office.

Clearly that was Satan’s work

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:29:04am

re: #224 William Lewis

No because that’s the point of Free Will. Either we do it or it doesn’t get done. And if that “doesn’t get done” goes too far, there will be a different species after man and God will try again.

Dude. Seriously? There’s kids being fucking kidnapped by our government RIGHT NOW.

Waiting for a cosmic do-over is a really, really awful idea.

Hands-off, “Gosh I wish I could do something but I’m only a god” God is just as bad as the fundies’ “God will murder anyone who isn’t like us” version.

I can’t deal with this anymore. Dog needs a walk.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:29:42am

re: #219 Mattand

Sorry, I’m just in a foul mood overall, but your god could fix this shit right now if he wanted to. Kind of the whole goddamn point to being all powerful and omnipotent.

Any kind of allegedly real supreme being that lets children be tortured and suffer like this while doing nothing is, at best, callously indifferent. I’m not going to go into at worst because I’m trying to rein it in here, and I’m honestly not trying to nasty to you.

Its something to do with free will. The Supreme Being Explains why Evil Exists

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:31:27am

re: #231 sagehen

God is smarter and stronger than we are; he’s also established rules that he himself adheres to. That’s the whole point of free will. He gave us brains of our own, some starting advice, and sat back to watch what we do with it.

That’s why when the pulpit pimp Elmer Gantrys say you can’t defy God, or argue with his laws… Jews say “oh yes you can!” There at least 4 places in the scripture where people have felt his pronouncements were unfair, unjust and immoral, and we got right up in his face to say “God, you’re wrong! This is an improper order, and improper decision, and here’s why.” In all four instances God thought about it for a couple of minutes, said “hmmm, you’ve got a point there” and changed his decisions.

I do think God giving into the request to have a king was a bad idea.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:32:40am

Oh, jeez.

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Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:33:16am

So, here is the address to the ICC website: icc-cpi.int

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:33:17am

re: #231 sagehen

You want to unconditionally love an alleged entity that could stop childrens’ suffering in an instant, but won’t because he loves us too much, knock yourself out.

I want no part of that thought process.

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:35:09am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

Fuckit, I’m out, going to the comic shop to get some junk food for my brain and then Little Caesar’s for food…

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:36:29am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

Darn. There goes the price on my Henkels 4 star knife I was looking at.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:36:59am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

Oh, jeez.

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The man literally understands nothing about international trade

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:37:38am

re: #235 Belafon

I do think God giving into the request to have a king was a bad idea.

He told us it was a bad idea; he tried to talk us out of it. But people can be idiots, and sometimes we just have to learn the hard way.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:38:47am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:40:07am

re: #239 I cannot.

Fuckit, I’m out, going to the comic shop to get some junk food for my brain and then Little Caesar’s for food…

Pizza pizza.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:40:27am

re: #243 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’ll raise tariffs, obviously.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:41:20am

Karma strikes when you least expect it. Especially if you’re a Trump Jockstrap!

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sagehen  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:42:27am

re: #238 Mattand

You want to unconditionally love an alleged entity that could stop childrens’ suffering in an instant, but won’t because he loves us too much, knock yourself out.

I want no part of that thought process.

You’d rather he meddle every day in every choice by every person or group of people? Maybe he should choose lottery winners and Super Bowl champions while he’s at it.

Or, he could just tell us, “grow the hell up and take some responsibility. Do it yourselves.”

ETA: in the end, every democracy gets the leaders it deserves. To quote Stonekettle, “if we want better government, we have to be better citizens.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:42:40am

re: #246 Joe Bacon 🌹

Karma strikes when you least expect it. Especially if you’re a Trump Jockstrap!

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Yeah? Well we warned ya Bub. You thought just because the obnoxious prick from Queens shared your hatred of HRC, liberals, and immigrants that he knew and cared about your livelihood.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:42:55am

re: #243 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Considering they built them in southern “Right to Work” states, there is a huge irony in who would be the ones loosing their jobs in the event of plant closures.

But still, if they did mothball all their plants until the regime is gone, I’ll bet the billionaire would be screaming for impeachment the same day.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:44:29am

re: #249 William Lewis

Considering they built them in southern “Right to Work” states, there is a huge irony in who would be the ones loosing their jobs in the event of plant closures.

But still, if they did mothball all their plants until the regime is gone, I’ll bet the billionaire would be screaming for impeachment the same day.

Daimler/Chrysler could shut up shop completely.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:44:43am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

69 years young. Hope you’re having a great B’Day!!

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:47:11am

re: #247 sagehen

You’d rather he meddle every day in every choice by every person or group of people? Maybe he should choose lottery winners and Super Bowl champions while he’s at it.

Or, he could just tell us, “grow the hell up and take some responsibility. Do it yourselves.”

If your choice is between not believing in a god, and believing there’s a god that doesn’t do anything, why believe in a god?

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:47:19am

Something orange, ugly, and aggressive on the internet today.

And then there is this crab:

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:48:22am

Airbus warns Britain that if they BREXIT without an orderly action, they’ll quit Britain and move all their factory and supply chain elsewhere.

It’ll be a huge economic hit, which is already hitting the London financial industry, as companies move business onto the continent.

We’ll be seeing this too with the US as Trump’s idiotic trade war yields more damage to American businesses as they lose business overseas and have to shed jobs all while consumers pay more for the goods they’re buying from overseas.

It’s as though Trump and the BREXIT folks are intentionally trying to destroy their economies and aiding and abetting a foreign power to disrupt global economic order.

Who’d benefit from such a thing… chaos and a leadership vacuum? Russia.

That name keeps coming up.

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Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:48:22am

Charles, it appears there is an issue when you want to view the current point score on a comment, I get the lightbox but nothing more. I can still click out of it.
Firefox 60.0.2 / Linux amd64

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:53:25am

re: #254 lawhawk

Airbus warns Britain that if they BREXIT without an orderly action, they’ll quit Britain and move all their factory and supply chain elsewhere.

It’ll be a huge economic hit, which is already hitting the London financial industry, as companies move business onto the continent.

We’ll be seeing this too with the US as Trump’s idiotic trade war yields more damage to American businesses as they lose business overseas and have to shed jobs all while consumers pay more for the goods they’re buying from overseas.

It’s as though Trump and the BREXIT folks are intentionally trying to destroy their economies and aiding and abetting a foreign power to disrupt global economic order.

Who’d benefit from such a thing… chaos and a leadership vacuum? Russia.

That name keeps coming up.

Yep. There’s one country that does not need the current economic order, Russia. Even China, for all its want of becoming the dominant power, still needs the current system in place. A collapse of the US market would seriously hurt it. Not Russia, though.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:54:48am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

Oh, jeez.

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The idiot doesn’t know THEY DO BUILD THEM HERE!

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Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:55:47am

In other news, I managed to come up with this to rattle the tRumpholes cages about states refusing national guard and UA and AA getting cold feet about transports:

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:56:46am

re: #246 Joe Bacon 🌹

Karma strikes when you least expect it. Especially if you’re a Trump Jockstrap!

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Another Trump supporter who didn’t realize Trump meant it when he promised to start trade wars.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:58:01am

re: #259 Big Beautiful Door

Another Trump supporter who didn’t realize Trump meant it when he promised to start trade wars.

That’s why the economic anxiety shit is bullshit.

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:59:31am

re: #169 wheat-dogg

Trump seems to oppose all immigration as well. America is only for “Americans,” in his view. He was tweeting yesterday about how the “millions” of immigrants have to be stopped before they destroy the USA.

We let Trump’s family here as well as his 1st and 3rd wives.

Trump IS destroying America far more than any current immigrants.

Let’s toss him out of this country’s highest office as a start to make America great again.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:59:42am

re: #257 Big Beautiful Door

The idiot doesn’t know THEY DO BUILD THEM HERE!

The tariffs would hurt buyers of high-end cars, like Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari, Maserati, Rolls-Royce and Bentley, for example. IOW, rich people’s cars. Most of the mid-range cars are already built in the USA. So, the tariffs would not really bring in much revenue, since the volume in high-end cars is relatively low.

He’s doing it only for the optics, to look “tough on trade” for his base to stare at, awestruck.

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Jay C  Jun 22, 2018 • 7:59:46am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve gone almost all day without mentioning that today is birthday. I haven’t thought about it much, except to say, “Holy shit! I’m 69 years old!”

IKWYM… today’s my birthday 🎂 but I hadn’t had a “holy shit!!” moment over it til you put the idea into my head. Thanks, Gramps! (PS, I’m a youthful 66 today, though don’t feel a day of it) My feeling has always been that you aren’t reall old until you start acting your age…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:01:36am

re: #256 Belafon

Yep. There’s one country that does not need the current economic order, Russia. Even China, for all its want of becoming the dominant power, still needs the current system in place. A collapse of the US market would seriously hurt it. Not Russia, though.

China would certainly feel the loss of the US retail market pretty badly, but meanwhile it’s been courting new markets in Africa and South America — y’know, shitholes.
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:02:47am

re: #264 wheat-dogg

China would certainly feel the loss of the US retail market pretty badly, but meanwhile it’s been courting new markets in Africa and South America — y’know, shitholes.
/

I caught the John Oliver bit on President Xi. What he’s doing is pretty damn savvy if i say so myself.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:03:45am

re: #262 wheat-dogg

The tariffs would hurt buyers of high-end cars, like Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari, Maserati, Rolls-Royce and Bentley, for example. IOW, rich people’s cars. Most of the mid-range cars are already built in the USA. So, the tariffs would not really bring in much revenue, since the volume in high-end cars is relatively low.

He’s doing it only for the optics, to look “tough on trade” for his base to stare at, awestruck.

There are some manufacturers who need to supplement lines built here with those made overseas because of high demand. Those would fall into this category too.

You’d have to go manufacturer by manufacturer and car model by model to see what would be affected.

So it’s a lot less obvious what get whacked by Trump’s insane trade war until consumers start seeing higher costs for their Camrys or Accords or even Jeeps or other cars that are made outside the US.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:03:55am

Oh, for fuck sake, ABC is bringing back Roseanne but without Roseanne…

npr.org

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jeffreyw  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:05:40am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aliens intercepted our radio and TV signals.

They want nothing to do with us. We’re quarantined from the rest of the Universe because we’re too dangerous.

They are quiet because they have learned that there are wolves in those woods.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:06:15am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:06:24am

re: #267 William Lewis

Oh, for fuck sake, ABC is bringing back Roseanne but without Roseanne…

npr.org

I never watched Blowsanne before and I won’t waste any time on the reboot.

I wouldn’t even watch it if Trump shot Blowsanne on 5th Avenue and got away with it.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:06:28am

re: #267 William Lewis

Oh, for fuck sake, ABC is bringing back Roseanne but without Roseanne…

npr.org

I know why they’re trying, but it won’t work. Unless the actress herself was dead, you can’t really do a show without her. If she had died before the first try, they could have done one without her, but now will just be too awkward.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:06:58am

re: #266 lawhawk

To extend my remarks:

time.com

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:07:08am

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

I love LGF and everyone here. Y’all are the only thing that keeps me sane in this time of darkness.

I may not be as active as I like but I whole heartedly agree.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:09:08am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I caught the John Oliver bit on President Xi. What he’s doing is pretty damn savvy if i say so myself.

I have my misgivings about Xi’s yearning for power, but I have to admit he is a smart guy. I may regret those words someday, but by then I expect to be out of China. The real test will come when Xi’s second five-year term would normally have ended if he hadn’t had the constitution amended. If China is still on the upswing, he’ll be able to retain the office without much trouble. Otherwise, he may need to resort to strong-arm tactics to remain in office. It’s hard to say how well that will play with this increasingly connected population.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:09:15am

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

I said pretty much the same thing I said when I renewed my membership.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:09:34am

re: #267 William Lewis

Oh, for fuck sake, ABC is bringing back Roseanne but without Roseanne…

npr.org

I’m sure there’s some promising writer with a pitch that is better than this.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:10:35am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

psst. Julian Fellows and Downton Abbey. PBS.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:10:48am

re: #274 wheat-dogg

I have my misgivings about Xi’s yearning for power, but I have to admit he is a smart guy. I may regret those words someday, but by then I expect to be out of China. The real test will come when Xi’s second five-year term would normally have ended if he hadn’t had the constitution amended. If China is still on the upswing, he’ll be able to retain the office without much trouble. Otherwise, he may need to resort to strong-arm tactics to remain in office. It’s hard to say how well that will play with this increasingly connected population.

Oh yeah, he seems very smart. And that’s what worries me. He sees the power and influence vaccum left by Trump’s “America first” bs and is using it to fill with China’s influence. I don’t think it’s malicious. It’s just smart geopolitics.

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:11:12am

re: #198 Big Beautiful Door

In a new interview, the KKKeebler Elf claims the Administration didn’t really intend to separate families.

Does Jeffy Sessions know there are all these recordings of him saying they are separating families?

I know he likes to lie, but at some point you have to acknowledge what you’ve already said.

Well, maybe not in Trump world…because it does seem many of them have trouble covering what they’ve already said.

The boss is the worst. I guess it is reflective of management.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:11:29am

re: #277 PhillyPretzel

psst. Julian Fellows and Downton Abbey. PBS.

Ha, I still need to watch osme of that one of these days. So little time though.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:12:17am

re: #273 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I may not be as active as I like but I whole heartedly agree.

I’d like to echo this again. This has been a refuge the past year and change. I don’t feel alone because of you guys.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:12:19am

re: #266 lawhawk

There are some manufacturers who need to supplement lines built here with those made overseas because of high demand. Those would fall into this category too.

You’d have to go manufacturer by manufacturer and car model by model to see what would be affected.

So it’s a lot less obvious what get whacked by Trump’s insane trade war until consumers start seeing higher costs for their Camrys or Accords or even Jeeps or other cars that are made outside the US.

In short, it’s a boneheaded idea with few advantages for the USA or its consumers.

I swear, Trump sees everything as a zero-sum game. Nuance and compromise seem to be outside his skill set.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:12:39am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

If you have Amazon Prime the whole series is free. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:14:46am

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

If you have Amazon Prime the whole series is free. :)

Sweet. Right now I’m watching Mindhunters on NF. And I do have AP.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:14:52am

re: #282 wheat-dogg

Wharton School of Business called. They want Trump’s degree back.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:16:43am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:17:11am

So, in the past 24 hours I have been locked out of Twitter twice. Each time being reported for tweets 2 years old. It seems someone is not happy with tweets I’ve posted recently and is now trying to use twitters rules to get me locked out. At what point does that constitute harassment?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:17:25am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah, he seems very smart. And that’s what worries me. He sees the power and influence vaccum left by Trump’s “America first” bs and is using it to fill with China’s influence. I don’t think it’s malicious. It’s just smart geopolitics.

I predict China in the next decade (or maybe two) will have landed astronauts on the Moon and brought them home. It will have wrested control of the South China Sea from other countries adjoining it, and all but absconded with the islands that both Taiwan and Japan claim are theirs. China will have strong alliances with many African and South American countries, including Mexico. Democracy and free expression will suffer as a result.

The only thing that could stand in its way, geopolitically, is a United States once again committed to its role as “Leader of the Free World.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:17:45am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Sweet. Right now I’m watching Mindhunters on NF. And I do have AP.

Can’t wait for Season 2 of MH.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:17:52am

re: #285 lawhawk

Wharton may want the diploma back but Dr Gutmann (U of Penn President) wants more. ::: very evil grin :::

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:18:53am

re: #285 lawhawk

Wharton School of Business called. They want Trump’s degree back.

I thought that happened after the fourth bankruptcy — losing money running casinos.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:20:51am

re: #286 Stanley Sea

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I wonder if what Cohen’s going to do to Trump is fucking disgusting…

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:21:46am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:22:12am

re: #287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So, in the past 24 hours I have been locked out of Twitter twice. Each time being reported for tweets 2 years old. It seems someone is not happy with tweets I’ve posted recently and is now trying to use twitters rules to get me locked out. At what point does that constitute harassment?

You’re probably being attacked by the same Russian trolls I’m swatting there!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:22:18am

re: #288 wheat-dogg

I predict China in the next decade (or maybe two) will have landed astronauts on the Moon and brought them home. It will have wrested control of the South China Sea from other countries adjoining it, and all but absconded with the islands that both Taiwan and Japan claim are theirs. China will have strong alliances with many African and South American countries, including Mexico. Democracy and free expression will suffer as a result.

The only thing that could stand in its way, geopolitically, is a United States once again committed to its role as “Leader of the Free World.”

A Taiwanese former co-worker told me that China until the fall of the Empire in the early 20th century was always an economic power but the years of Civil War until the present were the exception not the norm. We’re going to need strong leadership to coutneract what’s going on. We don’t need idiotic populists left or right that are too short minded to see the global picture and I include Bernie on that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:24:19am

re: #293 JordanRules

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This is how the KKKeebler Elf gets off with his pals!

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:26:57am

No wonder someone started a dating app just for Trumpers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:27:26am

re: #288 wheat-dogg

I predict China in the next decade (or maybe two) will have landed astronauts on the Moon and brought them home. It will have wrested control of the South China Sea from other countries adjoining it, and all but absconded with the islands that both Taiwan and Japan claim are theirs. China will have strong alliances with many African and South American countries, including Mexico. Democracy and free expression will suffer as a result.

The only thing that could stand in its way, geopolitically, is a United States once again committed to its role as “Leader of the Free World.”

I’ve been saying that China will not only get to the moon. I fully expect them to construct a moon base and head for Mars. As for the US we are now a country in decline. We’ll be too busy with Bible studies to challenge a superior China.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:28:36am

Liars and racists.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:30:39am

re: #299 JordanRules

Liars and racists.

“Some people say…”

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:30:41am

re: #246 Joe Bacon 🌹

Karma strikes when you least expect it. Especially if you’re a Trump Jockstrap!

A Trump supporting soybean farmer whose farm has lost ≈ $250k in value due to tariffs: “This isn’t just numbers on a sheet or percentage of trade or dollar value. This is multi-generational American families, your base, that you are now squarely putting into financial peril.”

before you were just hurting them so that was ok, we didnt care

now you’re hurting us

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:30:52am

re: #257 Big Beautiful Door

The idiot doesn’t know THEY DO BUILD THEM HERE!

I still hold to my contention Donny is stuck in time around 1980.

Europeans didn’t build cars here then. No South Korean boom. Japan and China was still considered to make junk. Europe was somewhere you went on vacations. Eastern Europe was still ‘red.’ and all owned by Russia. Mexicans stayed in their place…and Blacks were not to be trusted as they were all lazy criminals.

Tell me he doesn’t think like that.

The world has changed a lot since Donny was a young man with a million dollar start. But he hasn’t changed. Time has passed a guy like Trump by. He has no idea what happened, but he wants it to be like he remembers it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:31:16am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

No wonder someone started a dating app just for Trumpers.

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I’m having a really hard time feeling bad.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:31:43am

re: #299 JordanRules

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Liars and racists.

Oh fuck y’all.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:32:06am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

No wonder someone started a dating app just for Trumpers.

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Why don’t they follow the advice of their political Godfather Newt?

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garzooma  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:32:31am

re: #262 wheat-dogg

He’s doing it only for the optics, to look “tough on trade” for his base to stare at, awestruck.

This would explain why Wall Street is so blase about all of this.

They also probably believe that when push comes to shove, Trump will cave.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:32:44am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

I’m having a really hard time feeling bad.

THIS. You lay down with dirty dogs, you don’t get to bitch if you wake up with fleas.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:33:09am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve been saying that China will not only get to the moon. I fully expect them to construct a moon base and head for Mars. As for the US we are now a country in decline. We’ll be too busy with Bible studies to challenge a superior China.

China will figure out how to refine aluminum and titanium from the lunar surface. They already have solar power figured out. And the government sees space exploration as a prestige thing, to show the world that China is no longer a backwater country, but a world leader.

Tell all your young friends to learn Chinese. They’ll need it.

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:33:43am

re: #267 William Lewis

Oh, for fuck sake, ABC is bringing back Roseanne but without Roseanne…

npr.org

There is controversy…money to be made.

I hear it will be based around a big major change in the family.

Gee, I wonder what that could be?

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:34:09am

re: #262 wheat-dogg

The tariffs would hurt buyers of high-end cars, like Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari, Maserati, Rolls-Royce and Bentley, for example. IOW, rich people’s cars. Most of the mid-range cars are already built in the USA. So, the tariffs would not really bring in much revenue, since the volume in high-end cars is relatively low.

He’s doing it only for the optics, to look “tough on trade” for his base to stare at, awestruck.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:34:46am

re: #308 wheat-dogg

China will figure out how to refine aluminum and titanium from the lunar surface. They already have solar power figured out. And the government sees space exploration as a prestige thing, to show the world that China is no longer a backwater country, but a world leader.

Tell all your young friends to learn Chinese. They’ll need it.

The only Chinese that Americans think they need are cans of Chun King on supermarket shelves.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:34:48am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Is till hold to my contention Donny is stuck in time around 1980.

Europeans didn’t build cars here then. No South Korean boom. Japan and China was still considered to make junk. Europe was somewhere you went on vacations. Eastern Europe was still ‘red.’ and all owned by Russia. Mexicans stayed in their place…and Blacks were not to be trusted as they were all lazy criminals.

Tell me he doesn’t think like that.

The world has changed a lot since Donny was a young man with a million dollar start. But he hasn’t changed. Time has passed a guy like Trump by. He has no idea what happened, but he wants it to be like he remembers it.

Same could be said for Bernie.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:36:04am

re: #266 lawhawk

There are some manufacturers who need to supplement lines built here with those made overseas because of high demand. Those would fall into this category too.

You’d have to go manufacturer by manufacturer and car model by model to see what would be affected.

So it’s a lot less obvious what get whacked by Trump’s insane trade war until consumers start seeing higher costs for their Camrys or Accords or even Jeeps or other cars that are made outside the US.

so do some analysis and planning and homework….
yeah right

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:36:58am

Every Governor needs to do the same.

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plansbandc  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:37:11am

re: #75 freetoken

I welcome our pig overlords.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:37:15am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

No wonder someone started a dating app just for Trumpers.

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Why don’t they just date one another? Do even Trumpsters find Trumpsters disgusting?

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:37:16am

re: #308 wheat-dogg

China will figure out how to refine aluminum and titanium from the lunar surface. They already have solar power figured out. And the government sees space exploration as a prestige thing, to show the world that China is no longer a backwater country, but a world leader.

Tell all your young friends to learn Chinese. They’ll need it.

It’s not really going to be all that hard to refine those metals. They’ll also give you all the oxygen and hydrogen you need for atmosphere & water. The US was killed by Ronnie Ray-gun though. Trump is just finishing off the comatose body that was slightly healed under Obama.

I’d try to convince my son to go with mandarin but he wants to learn Japanese instead to be able to watch anime easier… < bang head >

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:37:42am

re: #267 William Lewis

Oh, for fuck sake, ABC is bringing back Roseanne but without Roseanne…

npr.org

beer without alcohol…..

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:37:50am

re: #312 wheat-dogg

Same could be said for Bernie.

THIS.

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gocart mozart  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:38:42am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:39:08am
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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:39:16am

Well, time to go to work. First my 5 hour shift then filling in for 6 hours for a coworker. Thrill… L8ter!

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plansbandc  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:40:49am

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Damn it.

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electrotek  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:40:50am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Is till hold to my contention Donny is stuck in time around 1980.

Europeans didn’t build cars here then. No South Korean boom. Japan and China was still considered to make junk. Europe was somewhere you went on vacations. Eastern Europe was still ‘red.’ and all owned by Russia. Mexicans stayed in their place…and Blacks were not to be trusted as they were all lazy criminals.

Tell me he doesn’t think like that.

The world has changed a lot since Donny was a young man with a million dollar start. But he hasn’t changed. Time has passed a guy like Trump by. He has no idea what happened, but he wants it to be like he remembers it.

Remember when GM built RHD variants of their vehicles in their Canadian plants to export to other Commonwealth nations?

Reason being? Canada, as a member of the Commonwealth, could export to other Commonwealth nations without being subjected to tariffs whereas US-built vehicles would have been.

RHD Bel-Air’s, Impalas, and Parisiennes in the 1950s and 1960s were exported to South Africa and Australia/NZ, for example.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:41:59am

re: #317 William Lewis

It’s not really going to be all that hard to refine those metals. They’ll also give you all the oxygen and hydrogen you need for atmosphere & water. The US was killed by Ronnie Ray-gun though. Trump is just finishing off the comatose body that was slightly healed under Obama.

I’d try to convince my son to go with mandarin but he wants to learn Japanese instead to be able to watch anime easier… < bang head >

Many of the written characters are originally from Chinese and have the same (general) meaning (the kanji), but the grammar and pronunciation are very different. But I have to say learning any Asian language is probably a good idea.

OTOH learning Arabic might be a wise idea, too.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:43:38am

So, anyone else notice that Trump somehow managed to find the money and time to quickly build a gulag archipelago for toddlers and kids they separated from their parents under Trump’s separation policy and built tent cities to house the parents very quickly.

Funny how that works. That same kind of organization was absent when Trumpworld responded to the disaster in Puerto Rico. Millions without power, water, and basic services got ignored for months and Trump lost interest - depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans suffering because they weren’t white. Or Republicans.

Trump screwed Puerto Ricans. Trump imprisoned toddlers who were coming in with parents seeking asylum. The common thread is that they weren’t white folks.

But now, they can’t find the money or time to reunite those parents with kids. They’ll drag out that process too.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:45:10am

Time for bed here. See you later on.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:45:50am

re: #314 JordanRules

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Every Governor needs to do the same.

as i said yesterday - the entire NYC detention infrastructure successfully managed (for a while) to hide they were doing this from the mayor’s office.

he found out via a leak

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:46:02am

re: #314 JordanRules

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Every Governor needs to do the same.

I heard Cuomo on the radio yesterday. He’s spitting mad over this.

He’s going to raise hell until there’s some kind of resolution in NY, and yeah, I hope it becomes an example for other states to follow.

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jeffreyw  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:46:46am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Does Jeffy Sessions know there are all these recordings of him saying they are separating families?

I know he likes to lie, but at some point you have to acknowledge what you’ve already said.

Well, maybe not in Trump world…because it does seem many of them have trouble covering what they’ve already said.

The boss is the worst. I guess it is reflective of management.

“There are five lights.” I heard it on Fox.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:46:48am

re: #329 makeitstop

I heard Cuomo on the radio yesterday. He’s spitting mad over this.

He’s going to raise hell until there’s some kind of resolution in NY, and yeah, I hope it becomes an example for other states to follow.

I haven’t been his biggest fan from afar but there’s a lot I like about him too.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:46:57am
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plansbandc  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:47:31am

re: #188 freetoken

Apparently, his God is super charming.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:47:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:48:46am

re: #334 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Charlie really is an ignorant kid.

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electrotek  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:49:38am

re: #317 William Lewis

It’s not really going to be all that hard to refine those metals. They’ll also give you all the oxygen and hydrogen you need for atmosphere & water. The US was killed by Ronnie Ray-gun though. Trump is just finishing off the comatose body that was slightly healed under Obama.

I’d try to convince my son to go with mandarin but he wants to learn Japanese instead to be able to watch anime easier… < bang head >

I want to learn Japanese so I don’t have to rely on my Japanese-speaking friends to translate auction report sheets prior to bidding on cars in Japanese auctions.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:49:47am

re: #312 wheat-dogg

The world has changed a lot since Donny was a young man with a million dollar start. But he hasn’t changed. Time has passed a guy like Trump by. He has no idea what happened, but he wants it to be like he remembers it.

Same could be said for Bernie.

i think trump doesnt know the world has changed. has no idea and doesnt care. would be surprised if you were able to ‘teach’ him anything like they build those cars here already.

bernie knows. he’s not ignorant. he’s just got a twisted and focused message that ignores what he thinks isnt important.

of cousre im just guessing

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:50:11am
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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:51:48am

re: #332 JordanRules

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My name is makeitstop, and I approve this message.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:51:59am

California net neutrality bill gutted as lawmakers cave to AT&T lobbyists

A California net neutrality bill that could have been the strictest such law in the country was dramatically scaled back yesterday after state lawmakers caved to demands from AT&T and cable lobbyists.

While the California Senate approved the bill with all of its core parts intact last month, a State Assembly committee’s Democratic leadership yesterday removed key provisions.

“What happened today was outrageous,” Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), the bill author, said. “These hostile amendments eviscerate the bill and leave us with a net neutrality bill in name only.”

Everybody is for sale.

arstechnica.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:53:03am

re: #337 dangerman

i think trump doesnt know the world has changed. has no idea and doesnt care. would be surprised if you were able to ‘teach’ him anything like they build those cars here already.

bernie knows. he’s not ignorant. he’s just got a twisted and focused message that ignores what he thinks isnt important.

of cousre im just guessing

I think the first 17 months of Trump have proven Bernie wrong a lot too. Bernie doesn’t seem to value international relationships as much as Trump does. I think that’s why even though name recon isn’t a problem for Bernie at this point, it’s why he trails Warren and Biden as a hypothetical candidate and I think will fall behind others as they began to raise their profiles. But yeah, I think Bernie is as short sighted as Trump. What honestly troubles me is that candidates like Ron Paul, Bernie, and even Trump seem to have a good amount of appeal for young people. They’re seen as revolutionary but honestly Bernie’s living in the past as much as Trump is. Now there are problems Bernie brings up that are legitimate problems with our society but Bernie also wants us to only focus on those and just see the others as mere distractions.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:53:18am

re: #246 Joe Bacon 🌹

Karma strikes when you least expect it. Especially if you’re a Trump Jockstrap!

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“You knew what you were voting for”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:53:42am

re: #338 JordanRules

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From bootleggers and Baptists to Pentecostals and Pimps.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:54:25am

re: #326 lawhawk

So, anyone else notice that Trump somehow managed to find the money and time to quickly build a gulag archipelago for toddlers and kids they separated from their parents under Trump’s separation policy and built tent cities to house the parents very quickly.

Funny how that works. That same kind of organization was absent when Trumpworld responded to the disaster in Puerto Rico. Millions without power, water, and basic services got ignored for months and Trump lost interest - depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans suffering because they weren’t white. Or Republicans.

Trump screwed Puerto Ricans. Trump imprisoned toddlers who were coming in with parents seeking asylum. The common thread is that they weren’t white folks.

But now, they can’t find the money or time to reunite those parents with kids. They’ll drag out that process too.

i agree with the sentiment 100%

except

it assumes adhering to budget line spending and limits.
for this administration, not a chance, cause they’d have had to go begging to congress for money

i’d guess that right now they are just cutting checks
we have no idea where how they’d be reporting (ie burying) it later

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:57:21am

re: #334 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why is Manafort in prison and Hillary isn’t?

c’mon this is easy:

manafort is charged with several crimes
he violated parole conditions he agreed to
he likely tampered with witnesses

hillary hasn’t

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TedStriker  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:57:40am

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:58:07am

re: #345 dangerman

c’mon this is easy:

manafort is charged with several crimes
he violated parole conditions he agreed to
he likely tampered with witnesses

hillary hasn’t

You’re talking about a kid who believes Trump has the most women in high ranked cabinet positions of any POTUS in history.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:58:10am

At least it’s not getting thrown away

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:59:19am

re: #348 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

At least it’s not getting thrown away

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What? No Big Macs? No Filet O’Fish? No KFC?

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Interesting Times  Jun 22, 2018 • 8:59:35am

re: #348 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good. They deserve the food far more than creepy, complicit GOPer congresstrumpenablers.

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plansbandc  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:00:16am

re: #299 JordanRules

I hope the racism watchdog doesn’t see that. He’ll bark himself hoarse.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:00:50am

re: #271 Belafon

I know why they’re trying, but it won’t work. Unless the actress herself was dead, you can’t really do a show without her. If she had died before the first try, they could have done one without her, but now will just be too awkward.

They could just have the first ‘sode without her start with the premise that she took a weekend trip to New York City. And Donald tRump shot her dead on 5th ave.. That will explain her absence.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:03:31am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I think the first 17 months of Trump have proven Bernie wrong a lot too. Bernie doesn’t seem to value international relationships as much as Trump does. I think that’s why even though name recon isn’t a problem for Bernie at this point, it’s why he trails Warren and Biden as a hypothetical candidate and I think will fall behind others as they began to raise their profiles. But yeah, I think Bernie is as short sighted as Trump. What honestly troubles me is that candidates like Ron Paul, Bernie, and even Trump seem to have a good amount of appeal for young people. They’re seen as revolutionary but honestly Bernie’s living in the past as much as Trump is. Now there are problems Bernie brings up that are legitimate problems with our society but Bernie also wants us to only focus on those and just see the others as mere distractions.

as to the second part. exactly

as to the first:
anyone who spends any time actually trying to understand what’s going on in the country, the world, at any point in time, not just now, to understand politics, policy, issues, etc etc, will see that all the moving parts are extremely complex, complicated and democratice resolution is always messy imperfect compromise (short of dictatorship)

so if i can broad brush this, that kind of appeal is because it’s simplistic and ignores so much reality.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:05:00am

re: #352 Eventual Carrion

They could just have the first ‘sode without her start with the premise that she took a weekend trip to New York City. And Donald tRump shot her dead on 5th ave.. That will explain her absence.

Or better yet, Blowsanne leaves Dan for the new love of her life!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:07:30am

re: #353 dangerman

as to the second part. exactly

as to the first:
anyone who spends any time actually trying to understand what’s going on in the country, the world, at any point in time, not just now, to understand politics, policy, issues, etc etc, will see that all the moving parts are extremely complex, complicated and democratice resolution is always messy imperfect compromise (short of dictatorship)

so if i can broad brush this, that kind of appeal is because it’s simplistic and ignores so much reality.

As one of Makeitstop’s and my favorite singers would say, “Be suspicious of simple answers
That shit’s for fascists and maybe teenagers
You can’t fix the world if all you have is your hammer” But yeah, I think that’s what frustrates me the most. Honestly, I think he still doesn’t get it. He just thinks you fix income inequality and all goes away but that’s not the problem at all. Now, there is an income inequality problem in this country I’ll be the first to say.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:07:57am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

You’re talking about a kid who believes Trump has the most women in high ranked cabinet positions of any POTUS in history.

even easier ;-)

name ‘em
i’ll wait…..

(clinton’s 2nd term got the highest percentage. right now obama’s both terms are higher than trump in # and percent. as was clinton’s first term)

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:08:04am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:10:00am

re: #356 dangerman

even easier ;-)

name ‘em
i’ll wait…..

(clinton’s 2nd term got the highest percentage. right now obama’s both terms are higher than trump in # and percent. as was clinton’s first term)

One of my right wing friends posted that and I without much googlefu proved it bs. He thankfully has cut down on the political bullshit lately but I don’t know if that’s because of work or because he realized he was looking ignorant not just to me and my brother but to his other friends.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:11:13am

re: #357 MsJ

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You know what? Tough shit. I’ve had a hard time getting dates too. No one’s entitled to romance and if you reveal you’re a shitty person- that not only you voted for Turmp but you’re working for him, I don’t have to date you.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:11:15am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

No wonder someone started a dating app just for Trumpers.

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I cannot wait for the AJ Delgado/What’s His Name spats to come. They will fuck each other and then fuck each other over…publicly.

It will be glorious…and hysterically funny.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:11:31am

re: #321 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You realize I have to ask: What was spotted?

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:12:21am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

As one of Makeitstop’s and my favorite singers would say,

“Be suspicious of simple answers
That shit’s for fascists and maybe teenagers
You can’t fix the world if all you have is your hammer”

‘Don’t go mistaking your house burning down for the dawn.’ ;)

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:15:15am

Happy if you are reading…

Since my cousin is back playing some music with my other buddy and I now, I have been able to find a bit more about the Slovak half of my family. He knows a bit more about the background than I do. My father was always pretty quiet about the family past.

He was more about being a proud American and not the old country.

My cousin is 100% Slovak so he has always been more interested in where our grandfather came from to America. He came on a sponsorship by a manufacturing company in my old hometown, brought here for his tool-making skills.

My cousin seems to think he was from right around Kosice in eastern Slovakia.

That makes sense for a few reasons. It is a large city where he would have had the type of work he mastered. It is extremely Catholic, as my grandfather was very Catholic. And it is close to Ukraine, which may be why both my grandfather and father could speak some eastern languages along with the Slovak.

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:16:00am

re: #360 MsJ

Oh, the Evil AND Stupid Mr. Potatohead lookalike Jason Miller.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:16:15am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

As one of Makeitstop’s and my favorite singers would say, “Be suspicious of simple answers
That shit’s for fascists and maybe teenagers
You can’t fix the world if all you have is your hammer” But yeah, I think that’s what frustrates me the most. Honestly, I think he still doesn’t get it. He just thinks you fix income inequality and all goes away but that’s not the problem at all. Now, there is an income inequality problem in this country I’ll be the first to say.

look at income inequality wrt foreign policy
as i and thousands of others have said, if you want to slow ‘migration’, not even immigration, the solution is to make conditions better where people are leaving from
whether it’s from violence, gangs, dictatorships, famine, the inability to earn a living, support a family, etc.
masses of people move when the future looks not even brighter, just less awful, somewhere else

so if your foreign policy is build a wall, close the borders, isolation, not our problem, whatever, you’re just closing the door on the flood so you wont see the wave coming. it’s still coming

you need diplomats all around the world, foreign policy interaction, intelligence (info, not smarts), sometimes military presence, sometimes military activity, etc

you make the world a better place and people will want to stay where they are - what a horrible idea that seems to be

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:16:43am

“… The Trump administration, facing a growing immigration enforcement mission on the southern U.S. border, is considering a plan to shift money from the U.S. Coast Guard to other parts of the Department of Homeland Security, according to U.S. officials and an internal Coast Guard message obtained by The Washington Post.

Most of the funding would go to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which also is part of Homeland Security. The department has the authority to move money around between its components, and may also shift other funding to pay for ICE operations.

The Coast Guard message stated that $77 million could be shifted and that several courses of action have been presented to Adm. Karl Schultz, the Coast Guard commandant. The Coast Guard Reserve also “may be required to provide a contribution,” the message said. …”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:17:25am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Does Jeffy Sessions know there are all these recordings of him saying they are separating families?

I know he likes to lie, but at some point you have to acknowledge what you’ve already said.

Well, maybe not in Trump world…because it does seem many of them have trouble covering what they’ve already said.

The boss is the worst. I guess it is reflective of management.

Yea, they can contradict themselves within seconds and not face any consequences.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:17:26am

re: #357 MsJ

Young Trump staffers in D.C. are having a hard time dating and socializing because most of this city loathes them

you work for a pig, you’re a pig

dont be a dick and people wont see you as a dick

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BeachDem  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:18:16am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is awake

shilling books:

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Tickets must be going slow for the Pence appearance—I just got a robocall from Lara Trump (man, does she ever have an annoying voice—and she’s a terrible reader.) Yeah, no. Action Together is doing a protest outside the venue. You should see the list of things you cannot bring in—includes explosives, fireworks, pepper spray—oddly, doesn’t mention guns (they aren’t allowed on campus where the event is, but you’d think they’d have mentioned them in the list anyway.)

Henry McMaster must be scared if he’s doing all the last minute hoopla. Some friends are going to Columbia on Monday to protest outside the yam’s appearance. I’m devoting my time to figuring out how to get Mark Sanford to endorse the Dem in the race for his old seat!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:18:31am

re: #362 makeitstop

‘Don’t go mistaking your house burning down for the dawn.’ ;)

The first time it was a tragedy
The second time is a farce
Outside it’s 1933
So I’m hitting the bar

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:18:31am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

One of my right wing friends posted that and I without much googlefu proved it bs. He thankfully has cut down on the political bullshit lately but I don’t know if that’s because of work or because he realized he was looking ignorant not just to me and my brother but to his other friends.

bullshit works till you realize the other guy knows stuff

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:19:37am

re: #371 dangerman

bullshit works till you realize the other guy knows stuff

Yep. Both my brother and I have had to call him out on shit. His own sister who is more conservative than either of us did too. I really really hope he’s out of his Shapiro/Crowder/Kirk phase the next time I see him.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:20:00am

re: #364 I cannot.

Oh, the Evil AND Stupid Mr. Potatohead lookalike Jason Miller.

Yeah, him.

There is no violin tiny enough for this.

As bad as it sounds, I had a blast excoriating Delgado on twitter. Woe is she.

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:20:30am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

You know what? Tough shit. I’ve had a hard time getting dates too. No one’s entitled to romance and if you reveal you’re a shitty person- that not only you voted for Turmp but you’re working for him, I don’t have to date you.

took me 28 years to find and then get the former future mrs dm to say “yes”

was a miserable time and worth every second of it

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:22:19am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A new twist: The Trump administration plans to use Coast Guard money to pay for ICE border enforcement, according to U.S. officials and an internal Coast Guard

did i JUST SAY THIS about 10 inches ^^^^ up the thread?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:23:00am

re: #294 Joe Bacon 🌹

Probably. I checked my followers and can’t find anyone who I would suspect of shadowing me for that reason and they’d have to spend an awful lot of time going back through my TL to end up reporting tweets from 2016.

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:23:46am

re: #247 sagehen

You’d rather he meddle every day in every choice by every person or group of people? Maybe he should choose lottery winners and Super Bowl champions while he’s at it.

Or, he could just tell us, “grow the hell up and take some responsibility. Do it yourselves.”

ETA: in the end, every democracy gets the leaders it deserves. To quote Stonekettle, “if we want better government, we have to be better citizens.”

Well, your god doesn’t exist, so I have no expectation of anyone or anything meddling in our sordid earthly affairs.

If such a creature did exist? Damn right I’d want him/her/it to get off their ass and help these kids. For fuck’s sake, some of them might die before too long.

I’m kinda weird like that; placing children’s welfare over trying to figure out the true meaning of what mythological constructs would want.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:23:47am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

The first time it was a tragedy
The second time is a farce
Outside it’s 1933
So I’m hitting the bar

Okay, gotta post the video now so people don’t think we’re just being cryptic. :)

Frank Turner - 1933

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:24:57am

re: #378 makeitstop

Okay, gotta post the video now so people don’t think we’re just being cryptic. :)

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Yeah sorry guys lol. Dad loved MAGA. He’s about as far punk as you can be but he enjoyed the sentiment.

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Mattand  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:25:51am

re: #357 MsJ

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Just got done reading that article. No sympathy for those little shits, especially after the last two weeks. You enable a monster, you suffer the consequences.

Absolutely amazing that to a person, none of them has any remorse about supporting these horrible people.

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:26:04am

re: #360 MsJ

I cannot wait for the AJ Delgado/What’s His Name spats to come. They will fuck each other and then fuck each other over…publicly.

It will be glorious…and hysterically funny.

They have already had some public spats…at least from her side. He seems to hang low these days…as he should. A little over a month ago, I remember some tweets from AJ popping up here.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:29:08am

Happy - this is down your way, yeah? Share it around if you can.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:30:37am

Thread

Remaining tweets behind the clicky

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:30:54am

re: #382 makeitstop

Happy - this is down your way, yeah? Share it around if you can.

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It’s a bit of a hike.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:33:18am

Well it’s hints galore this morning on my tree. No sign of being related to Melania yet! :).

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:33:59am

Whatever happened to Anonymous? Seems like they went pretty quiet.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:34:08am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

It’s a bit of a hike.

Closer to you than to me. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:35:26am

re: #127 Joe Bacon 🌹

josephebacon 🌹
@josephebacon
Your party controls the House.

Your party controls the Senate.

You don’t need 60 votes in the Senate. Your pal McConnell can kill the 60 vote rule and the filibuster any time he chooses.

You packed the Judiciary with Republican rubber stamps.

And you still can’t get your way!
7:04 AM - Jun 22, 2018
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While technically true , I don’t think McConnell is going to kill the 60 vote rule for fear of what might happen if Democrats ever succeed in gaining control again.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:35:49am

They just keep stacking those boulders on poor Paul Manafort.

Enjoy the pressure, you traitor.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:36:54am

re: #387 makeitstop

Closer to you than to me. :)

Ha true but I’m actually closer to WV than I’m DC.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:37:29am

Actually they don’t care about “our kids” either. Remember when they justified the shooting deaths of Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Darius Simmons, Jordan Davis, and Renisha McBride?

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:37:37am

Two years before he was killed, Antwon Rose wrote a poem describing his fear of violence in his community.

Rose’s family is sharing the poem written by the teen, who was killed by East Pittsburgh police on Tuesday.

In the poem, titled “I AM NOT WHAT YOU THINK!” Rose, of Rankin, describes his confusion.

“His mom, Michelle Kenny, wants everyone to have it,” Woodland Hills School District Superintendent Licia Lentz said in a message.

Rose wrote the poem two years ago as a 10th-grader in an Honors English class at Woodland Hills High School.

The 17-year-old was shot and killed Tuesday as he ran from a car that police had stopped in East Pittsburgh.

triblive.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:38:54am

re: #391 DodgerFan1988

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Actually they don’t care about “our kids” either. Remember when they justified the shooting deaths of Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Darius Simmons, Jordan Davis, and Renisha McBride?

Such monsters.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:39:00am

Damn, Congresswoman Gabby Giffords husband is speaking up

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:39:14am

re: #391 DodgerFan1988

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Actually they don’t care about “our kids” either. Remember when they justified the shooting deaths of Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Darius Simmons, Jordan Davis, and Renisha McBride?

Sandy Hook

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:41:25am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:41:41am

re: #395 JordanRules

Sandy Hook

Stoneman Douglas where those ghouls smeared the kids because they didn’t like what they had to say about guns even though Doocy and his snobby friends don’t know shit about actual guns and gun use but know that gun ownershpi is sacred to the right.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:43:37am

So much evidence that they really, really DGAF about children.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:45:18am
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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:47:51am

re: #391 DodgerFan1988

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Actually they don’t care about “our kids” either. Remember when they justified the shooting deaths of Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Darius Simmons, Jordan Davis, and Renisha McBride?

Wha???

I thought good Fox people are all Christians and such.

One of the main tenets of Christianity is we are all God’s Children.

If the fucking fools that watched that shit actually spent a little time thinking about what was being said, instead of acting like hateful sponges soaking it all in, they would, or should, be outraged by what they hear.

Goes to show you a good hate fest can overcome any ol’ religious teachings.

Jesus: “Do you believe?”

Fox Viewer: “Can I still hate?”

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:48:30am
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:48:46am

re: #400 ObserverArt

Wha???

I thought good Fox people are all Christians and such.

On of the main tenets of Christianity is we are all God’s Children.

If the fucking fools that watched that shit actually spent a little time thinking about what was being said, instead of acting like hateful sponges soaking it all in, they would, or should, be outraged by what they hear.

Goes to show you a good hate fest can overcome any ol’ religious teachings.

Jesus: “Do you believe?”

Fox Viewer: “Can I still hate?”

I’m hoping we can get them to say “If they’re God’s children, He can take care of them.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:49:00am

re: #400 ObserverArt

Wha???

I thought good Fox people are all Christians and such.

On of the main tenets of Christianity is we are all God’s Children.

If the fucking fools that watched that shit actually spent a little time thinking about what was being said, instead of acting like hateful sponges soaking it all in, they would, or should, be outraged by what they hear.

Goes to show you a good hate fest can overcome any ol’ religious teachings.

Jesus: “Do you believe?”

Fox Viewer: “Can I still hate?”

19th Century Fox’s real God is Ayn Rand.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:50:23am
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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:50:24am

re: #392 JordanRules

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triblive.com

Damn. That was painful listening to since he more or less knew his chances.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:51:16am

re: #405 ObserverArt

Damn. That was painful listening to since he more or less knew his chances.

So painful. So real.
It’s scary and heartbreaking.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:53:39am

And this is part of why they can so easily kill, harm and neglect these migrant kids and kids like Antwon Rose.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:54:16am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:55:17am

re: #73 MsJ

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Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:56:24am
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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:57:47am

re: #406 JordanRules

So painful. So real.
It’s scary and heartbreaking.

I wish the young man had not run. But then I understand why he would.

It was an open invitation for the cops.

Watch it come out he was involved somehow and the police will justify it.

Had he not run, he would still be alive. Well, one would hope so. But then, even that is no guarantee.

I sure hope that by 2020 policing policy reformation is a big thing in this country. We have got to reign the police in. They are no longer public servants. They are their own legal system and it is wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:59:22am

re: #407 JordanRules

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And this is part of why they can so easily kill, harm and neglect these migrant kids and kids like Antwon Rose.

Fuck you Steve.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:59:47am

re: #408 MsJ

Once again, Pruitt’s name has to come up.

He’s actively undermining air/water quality to the wink/nod of Trump and GOPers.

They’re destroying environmental law enforcement.

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wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:59:49am

re: #407 JordanRules

[Steve King

“Young boys” all old enough to be tried as adults or serve in the military and are prime MS-13 gang material & certainly grew up in the culture of one of the top 10 most violent countries in the world.]
.

Which makes their parents among the smartest, boldest, most determined parents on the planet, trying to get their kids away from all that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:00:16am

re: #408 MsJ

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Yeah but don’t kneel. Disgraceful.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:00:23am

re: #407 JordanRules

And this is part of why they can so easily kill, harm and neglect these migrant kids and kids like Antwon Rose.

Hey, Steve, you realize this also describes every white boy in America, right?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:01:21am

re: #414 wrenchwench

Which makes their parents among the smartest, boldest, most determined parents on the planet, trying to get their kids away from all that.

Exactly. They’re trying to escape that. Maybe if King spent sometime talking to people other than cornfed racists, he’d know that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:01:31am

re: #408 MsJ

More EPA news

Thread

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:01:55am

re: #411 ObserverArt

I wish the young man had not run. But then I understand why he would.

It was an open invitation for the cops.

Watch it come out he was involved somehow and the police will justify it.

Had he not run, he would still be alive. Well, one would hope so. But then, even that is no guarantee.

I sure hope that by 2020 policing policy reformation is a big thing in this country. We have got to reign the police in. They are no longer public servants. They are their own legal system and it is wrong.

Why do they need to shoot someone who is running away? You’re not an imminent threat if you are fleeing. I don’t get it.

There’s always a justification they can use and it usually always works after they murder someone. The invitation is always open, even if you’re on the ground they still will beat your ass and choke you out.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:03:10am
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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:03:44am

re: #418 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We are beginning to realize just how bad the problem is - and we’re still developing the tools to identify them from space.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:04:15am

re: #420 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:04:31am

re: #420 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Karen Handel eh? Remember the Bros who said her opponent wasn’t progressive enough? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:04:42am

re: #263 Jay C

A very Happy Birthday!! You are a year older than my brother, who is the youngest of us!

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dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:05:03am

sometimes the world just needs the adagio for strings

YouTube

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:05:50am

re: #419 JordanRules

Why do they need to shoot someone who is running away? You’re not an imminent threat if you are fleeing. I don’t get it.

There’s always a justification they can use and it usually always works after they murder someone. The invitation is always open, even if you’re on the ground they still will beat your ass and choke you out.

Guilt by action. Running Black man means guilt. Trial. Jury. Sentence.

That’s what I mean by them being their own legal system. They have powers they have never been granted.

Add in they said they found guns in the car and they already have all they need.

Add in Trump times and I bet a good portion of Pittsburgh has already declared “he had it coming.”

Damn, this has got to stop.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:07:23am

re: #426 ObserverArt

Guilt by action. Running Black man means guilt. Trial. Jury. Sentence.

That;s what I mean by them being their own legal system. They have powers they have never been granted.

Add in they said they found guns in the car and they already have all they need.

Add in Trump times and I bet a good portion of Pittsburgh has already declared “he had it coming.”

Damn, this has got to stop.

Yup!!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:07:38am

Pass a bill! Change the Law!!! Be Smart!!! Wait don’t waste time passing bill because Dem obstructionists! Be Smart!! Elect more R’s! Only I can fix!!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:10:32am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

phony stories of sadness and grief

This guy

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:11:06am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:11:26am

Another thread

8 remaining tweets of the thread behind the clicky

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:11:52am

re: #430 JordanRules

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I love this kid. I wish my own brother was this passionate about what’s going on.

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:12:33am

Creative sustainable solution!

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:14:58am

re: #433 JordanRules

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Creative sustainable solution!

And fucking their feelings means they don’t fuck us over, and it ensures a higher quality in the gene pool.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:16:44am

re: #404 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So why did you just sign an order changing the policy which wasn’t a policy?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:17:02am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:18:17am

Audio and video

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:19:30am

We talked a bit about this here yesterday too.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:21:01am
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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:21:19am

re: #437 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Audio and video

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Haunting and brilliant. I wish like hell he could run for president.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:22:18am

re: #438 JordanRules

We talked a bit about this here yesterday too.

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OOC, how is Chicago within the 100 mile limit? I am from Chicago and cannot think of any way it is within that perimeter.

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BeachDem  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:23:52am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Didn’t they already cut the Coast Guard funding? (After he gave two idiotic speeches to the Coast Guard academy)

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:24:04am

re: #441 MsJ

OOC, how is Chicago within the 100 mile limit? I am from Chicago and cannot think of any way it is within that perimeter.

Submarines in Lake Michigan apparently.

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:24:25am

re: #441 MsJ

OOC, how is Chicago within the 100 mile limit? I am from Chicago and cannot think of any way it is within that perimeter.

Ah, I see.

Roughly two-thirds of the United States’ population lives within the 100-mile zone—that is, within 100 miles of a U.S. land or coastal border. That’s about 200 million people.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:24:42am

New Jim Carrey painting. Viewer discretion advised.

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I cannot.  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:25:13am

re: #441 MsJ

The Maple Syrup smuggling cartels go through Chicago because of the relatively large port there.

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wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:25:44am

re: #441 MsJ

OOC, how is Chicago within the 100 mile limit? I am from Chicago and cannot think of any way it is within that perimeter.

Does it have a port that can be accessed from outside the country that can serve as a first landing point in the USA? Any customs offices, besides at airports?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:25:47am

re: #438 JordanRules

We talked a bit about this here yesterday too.

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And yet the people most paranoid about immigrants live far from the border.

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makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:26:02am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

New Jim Carrey painting. Viewer discretion advised.

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Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:27:28am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

Appreciate the warning!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:27:57am

re: #442 BeachDem

Didn’t they already cut the Coast Guard funding? (After he gave two idiotic speeches to the Coast Guard academy)

No, Congress rejected the administration’s proposed cuts to the USCG budget, and actually provided early funding for their long ignored heavy icebreaker replacements project

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:28:25am
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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:28:36am

re: #451 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just in time for there to no longer be ice at the North Pole. /

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ObserverArt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:30:34am

re: #451 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No, Congress rejected the administration’s proposed cuts to the USCG budget, and actually provided early funding for their long ignored heavy icebreaker replacements project

EPA head Pruitt is working on no need for icebreakers.

But then mankind may be wiped off earth, but hey…think of the savings!

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gocart mozart  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:33:46am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:34:39am

re: #453 lawhawk

Just in time for there to no longer be ice at the North Pole. /

The heavy icebreakers mission is to support South Pole operations actually
The current icebreaker procurement plan includes three medium ships for northern operations during typical transit periods, the spring/summer/fall

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BeachDem  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:35:15am

re: #426 ObserverArt

Guilt by action. Running Black man means guilt. Trial. Jury. Sentence.

That’s what I mean by them being their own legal system. They have powers they have never been granted.

Add in they said they found guns in the car and they already have all they need.

Add in Trump times and I bet a good portion of Pittsburgh has already declared “he had it coming.”

Damn, this has got to stop.

Only one change I’d make.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:37:50am

Stanley Sea, I think you hit the wrong ding button on #456.

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BeachDem  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:39:00am

re: #451 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No, Congress rejected the administration’s proposed cuts to the USCG budget, and actually provided early funding for their long ignored heavy icebreaker replacements project

Thanks—it’s hard to keep up with every act of ugliness this maladministration comes up with.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:39:04am

re: #458 Belafon

Stanley Sea, I think you hit the wrong ding button on #456.

I wasn’t gonna take it personally
//

461
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:40:28am
462
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:43:34am

re: #452 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Do we know for certain that Blowfeld isn’t building a super duper space machine bomber thing down there?

463
Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:46:49am

re: #454 ObserverArt

EPA head Pruitt is working on no need for icebreakers.

But then mankind may be wiped off earth, but hey…think of the savings!

re: #193 Big Beautiful Door

This is interesting. Researchers plugging ranges of probability instead of guesses into the Drake Equation predict there is a high probability that we are the only technological species in the galaxy. But the possibility of others isn’t zero, so we should keep looking!

Possible reasons for no detection of other intelligent civilizations:
1. All technological civilizations self-destruct within 100 years. So a lot are created but the evidence of their existence doesn’t overlap with our ability to detect them.
2. After a few years, due to improved technology, planets no longer emit signals that can be detected by others.
3. No reason for intelligent species to be technological.

At one time we thought planetary creation was an extremely rare event.

464
lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:47:21am
465
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:49:31am

Of course he’s a MP in the OR ANG
Way up in this thread, isn’t it mentioned how Facebook has allowed us to identify all the monsters we know?

466
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:50:23am

re: #465 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Of course he’s a MP in the OR ANG
Way up in this thread, isn’t it mentioned how Facebook has allowed us to identify all the monsters we know?

[Embedded content]

Jeezus.

467
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:52:35am

We need psychological testing for military and police.

468
Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:52:59am

re: #467 MsJ

We need psychological testing for military and police.

And for POTUS.

469
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:53:49am

re: #463 Hecuba’s daughter

Possible reasons for no detection of other intelligent civilizations:
1. All technological civilizations self-destruct within 100 years. So a lot are created but the evidence of their existence doesn’t overlap with our ability to detect them.
2. After a few years, due to improved technology, planets no longer emit signals that can be detected by others.
3. No reason for intelligent species to be technological.

At one time we thought planetary creation was an extremely rare event.

We’ve been a technological civilization for a few thousand years, unless you mean once we are able to broadcast radio waves.

470
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:54:28am
471
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:56:05am

re: #467 MsJ

We need psychological testing for military and police.

The police, like the military, needs to be something people feel they can volunteer for for a few years. In other words, we need to encourage a more representative cross-section of the population - i.e. liberals - to join, rather than just those that want to point a gun at people (yes, I know they don’t all want to do that, but it does draw in those that do).

472
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:58:52am

re: #468 Dr. Matt

And for POTUS.

All elected officials.

473
dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:59:13am

re: #462 Sir John Barron

Do we know for certain that Blowfeld isn’t building a super duper space machine bomber thing down there?

+1

474
Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:59:20am

re: #471 Belafon

The police, like the military, needs to be something people feel they can volunteer for for a few years.

Don’t [most] cities have volunteer reserve/auxiliary forces?

475
wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:59:24am

re: #467 MsJ

We need psychological testing for military and police.

Also, psychological treatment for all the trauma they encounter while serving.

476
Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:59:50am

re: #472 MsJ

All elected officials.

People who intend to breed.

half //

477
Eventual Carrion  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:02:12am

re: #471 Belafon

The police, like the military, needs to be something people feel they can volunteer for for a few years. In other words, we need to encourage a more representative cross-section of the population - i.e. liberals - to join, rather than just those that want to point a gun at people (yes, I know they don’t all want to do that, but it does draw in those that do).

Officer Eugene Tackleberry

478
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:02:41am

re: #477 Eventual Carrion

Officer Eugene Tackleberry

YOURE READY NOW MISTER!!!!!!!

479
Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:03:47am

re: #477 Eventual Carrion

Officer Eugene Tackleberry

480
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:05:13am

For anyone interested, All American’s twitter doing a little history telling today

481
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:07:39am

re: #476 Dr. Matt

People who intend to breed.

half //

Moreso people who do not intend to breed but do so anyway, either through ignorance or “Oops! Gotta have it now!”

482
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:10:53am

“…Before we get into the nitty-gritty of the study’s findings, here’s the story behind why EPA chief Scott Pruitt and the White House wanted to block its publication in the first place.

White House emails from earlier this year show that the Trump administration was worried the study would cause a “public relations nightmare,” and Pruitt’s aides intervened to block the report. An unnamed White House aide also said, “The impact to EPA and [the Defense Department] is going to be extremely painful,” according to a report in Politico last month.

In other words, the Trump administration headed off a study that highlighted a major public health crisis because officials didn’t want to deal with the fallout. When members of Congress got vocal about releasing the report, Pruitt decided to hold a summit at EPA headquarters about PFAS in drinking water systems at the end of May.

The saga, already pretty dramatic, started to resemble an episode of House of Cards when an AP reporter was forcibly removed from that summit. The reporter, along with journalists from CNN, Politico, and E&E News, were barred from entering the summit because of limited space, but reporters who were allowed to sit in on the meeting tweeted out pictures of empty chairs in the room.”

Politico: “The study would show that the chemicals endanger human health at a far lower level than EPA has previously called safe, according to the emails.”

483
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:13:50am

“Dave Andrews, a senior scientist with the Environmental Working Group, said those conclusions line up with recent studies on the health effects of PFAS.

“They are looking at very subtle effects like increased risk of obesity for children exposed in womb, lowered immune response, and childhood vaccines becoming not as effective,” Andrews said.”
politico.com

484
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:18:20am
485
wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:18:30am

re: #482 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Politico: “The study would show that the chemicals endanger human health at a far lower level than EPA has previously called safe, according to the emails.”

From the pulled quote:

“The impact to EPA and [the Defense Department] is going to be extremely painful,”

To the victims or the perpetrators?

486
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:19:07am

“Gosh” (hot new African American expression)

487
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:20:13am

re: #484 jaunte

. @RCamposDuffy on Fox News: “I spoke to some African-Americans who said ‘gosh the conditions of the detention centers are better than some of the projects I grew up in.’” pic.twitter.com

— Yashar Ali

Ah, well, call off the Congressional visits. We need have we of any further information than this choice sample?

////

488
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:21:13am
489
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:21:47am

re: #484 jaunte

. @RCamposDuffy on Fox News: “I spoke to some African-Americans who said ‘gosh the conditions of the detention centers are better than some of the projects I grew up in.’” pic.twitter.com

— Yashar Ali

Everybody knows that all the blacks grew up in The Projects.

///

490
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:22:36am

re: #488 MsJ

OF COURSE THE GIRL IS A SYMBOL.
How about letting reporters in to take photos of the children who were separated from their parents?

491
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:23:45am

re: #489 Sir John Barron

On the Liberal Plantation, but at the same time supposedly plantations were not bad places.

492
Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:24:38am
493
lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:24:40am

re: #490 jaunte

The girl’s father says they weren’t separated.

So, what does the mom say.

That does seem relevant, doesn’t it?

494
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:24:57am

re: #490 jaunte

OF COURSE THE GIRL IS A SYMBOL.
How about letting reporters in to take photos of the children who were separated from their parents?

Look, the picture is needlessly divisive and inflammatory in a year in which king T increased the sugar ration to 3 2 grams just last week.

/

495
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:24:57am
496
JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:28:18am

Bishop T always brings the fire on Twitter. LOL

497
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:28:31am
498
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:28:50am

re: #488 MsJ

All those uniforms were scaring the girl. Now imagine not having your parents to go along with it.

499
Winston_Smith  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:29:04am

re: #495 jaunte

It’s pretty obvious why.

500
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:29:41am

“…Maureen Scott Franco, who heads the Federal Public Defenders Office in the Western District of Texas, wrote to her colleagues Thursday that charges have been or will be dropped against all immigrants who were separated from their children.

Franco said in an interview later Thursday she was told by the U.S. attorney in the district that there weren’t suitable facilities to hold the migrant families, so some cases were being dismissed “if the case involved a family having to be separated.” The federal government has three detention centers that hold families, and those were reportedly already near capacity weeks ago.

As federal prosecutors consider options for housing families legally, Franco said, “everything is on hold.”

On Thursday, Fields seemed to confirm that, telling NBC News that charges would be dismissed against all immigrants who did not have serious criminal histories. But later, he retracted that statement, instead saying only that his office dismissed “certain cases.”

Franco said she expects no further charges will be filed against immigrants crossing with their families until the government solves its facilities challenge.”

501
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:31:19am

It seems Chaotic Evil is not a workable governing principle.

502
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:33:59am

re: #501 jaunte

It seems Chaotic Evil is not a workable governing principle.

But only if Lawful Good is paying attention.

503
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:34:16am
504
jeffreyw  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:34:36am
505
JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:34:49am

Their trolling frankly sucks here.

506
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:34:53am

Stormy brings it every day.

507
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:36:05am

re: #505 JordanRules

Their trolling frankly sucks here.

[Embedded content]

I truly hate these freaking people with all my heart and soul.

508
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:36:07am

Llre: #505 JordanRules

Their trolling frankly sucks here.

[Embedded content]

Pretty stupid given that Beto may yet beat Cruz.

509
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:36:33am

re: #507 MsJ

I truly hate these freaking people with all my heart and soul.

I do too.

510
makeitstop  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:39:38am

re: #484 jaunte

“I spoke to some African-Americans who said ‘gosh the conditions of the detention centers are better than some of the projects I grew up in.’”

Gosh?

511
lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:40:01am
512
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:40:16am

re: #510 makeitstop

Direct quote I’m sure.

513
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:41:35am

re: #511 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

This is fucking sick.

514
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:42:40am

“The gentleman will suspend.”
“Cite the rule Madame Speaker”

515
JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:43:25am
516
dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:43:41am

re: #501 jaunte

It seems Chaotic Evil is not a workable governing principle.

Band name?

517
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:44:11am

re: #516 dangerman

A.k.a. Trump2020

518
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:45:15am
519
JordanRules  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:48:32am
520
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:50:03am
521
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:50:36am

re: #520 jaunte

I bet “fewer guns” isn’t in there.

522
dangerman  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:51:31am

Does he ever do any actual ,you know, work or governing?

523
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:51:47am

re: #521 Belafon

A “safe country” is a mirage, a scam, a tale told by a flimflam man.

524
wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:52:21am

re: #519 JordanRules

[Peach Pol Pot]

Keeper.

525
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:52:58am

re: #520 jaunte

[Embedded content]

We will when you go away and your cronies.

526
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:53:34am

“…The Navy memo outlines plans to build “temporary and austere” tent cities to house 25,000 migrants at abandoned airfields just outside the Florida panhandle near Mobile, Alabama, at Navy Outlying Field Wolf in Orange Beach, Alabama, and nearby Navy Outlying Field Silverhill.

The memo also proposes a camp for as many as 47,000 people at former Naval Weapons Station Concord, near San Francisco; and another facility that could house as many as 47,000 people at Camp Pendleton, the Marines’ largest training facility located along the Southern California coast. The planning memo proposes further study of housing an undetermined number of migrants at the Marine Corps Air Station near Yuma, Arizona.

The planning document estimates that the Navy would spend about $233 million to construct and operate a facility for 25,000 people for a six-month time period. The proposal suggests these tent cities be built to last between six months and one year.”

527
Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:53:43am

“Safe country”….except for election security from Daddy Putin and Mother Russia.

528
BlueSpotinAL  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:54:09am

re: #486 jaunte

“Gosh” (hot new African American expression)

Airplane!: Golly!

529
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:54:12am

Temporary, austere, nasty, brutish and short.

530
Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:54:32am
531
Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:54:40am

re: #469 Belafon

We’ve been a technological civilization for a few thousand years, unless you mean once we are able to broadcast radio waves.

Yep — because unless we can send signals outside our planet, no one could detect our presence.

532
Dr. Matt  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:55:04am

re: #526 jaunte

“…The Navy memo outlines plans to build “temporary and austere” tent cities to house 25,000 migrants at abandoned airfields just outside the Florida panhandle near Mobile, Alabama, at Navy Outlying Field Wolf in Orange Beach, Alabama, and nearby Navy Outlying Field Silverhill.

Is “Sheriff” Joe advising Dotard now?

533
Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:55:43am

re: #526 jaunte

[Embedded content]

*suppreses gag*

534
prairiefire  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:56:03am

Happy shit show Friday, lizards!

535
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:56:10am

re: #526 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Oh but we don’t have money to protect South Korea. Bullshit.

536
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:56:30am

re: #526 jaunte

and another facility that could house as many as 47,000 people at Camp Pendleton, the Marines’ largest training facility located along the Southern California coast.

In other words, in order to punish people for being brown, he’s willing to interrupt the training of our troops.

537
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:56:37am

re: #532 Dr. Matt

I wonder if anyone in the Navy will consider the downside of collaborating with a fascist administration.

538
wrenchwench  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:57:17am

re: #532 Dr. Matt

Is “Sheriff” Joe advising Dotard now? still.

FTFY

539
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:58:00am

re: #536 Belafon

In other words, in order to punish people for being brown, he’s willing to interrupt the training of our troops.

But he’s sooo patriotic.

540
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:58:01am

re: #537 jaunte

I wonder if anyone in the Navy will consider the downside of collaborating with a fascist administration.

Then he’ll just stick all the people out there without any help.

541
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:58:09am

re: #519 JordanRules

“These are the American citizens permanently separated from their loved ones. The word permanently is the word you have to focus on. Not one day or two days. Permanently.” -Peach Pol Pot pic.twitter.com

— kat calvi

He’s doing this for the school shootings, too, right?

Oh that’s right we aren’t allowed to talk about them.

/

542
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:59:11am
543
Kragar  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:59:41am
544
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:00:39pm
545
Sir John Barron  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:01:48pm

re: #542 jaunte

It’s like the gang from the GOP national convention got together again. Maybe he’ll throw in the Benghazi victim relatives, too.

546
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:02:55pm

re: #495 jaunte

Way back in the summer of ‘72 I was residing in an area now known as Black Turn Brook State Forest, near Norton, VT.
Norton sits on the Canadian border. Back then to local store straddled the border, and if you wanted a cold “pop” or an ice cream sandwich you had to enter Canada.
The building is still there

Back then Black Turn Brook State Forest was known as “The Land” or Earth Peoples Park

547
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:03:13pm

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights )1948)
Article 14.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations
un.org

548
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:04:15pm

re: #546 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Way back in the summer of ‘72 I was residing in an area now known as Black Turn Brook State Forest, near Norton, VT.
Norton sits on the Canadian border. Back then to local store straddled the border, and if you wanted a cold “pop” or an ice cream sandwich you had to enter Canada.
The building is still there

Back then Black Turn Brook State Forest was known as “The Land” or Earth Peoples Park

OFFS

549
Winston_Smith  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:06:52pm

re: #537 jaunte

I wonder if anyone in the Navy will consider the downside of collaborating with a fascist administration.

Not if they want to be promoted.

550
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:07:59pm
551
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:09:47pm

Oh look, Texas senators woke up and got worried.

552
Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:09:52pm
553
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:10:12pm

re: #550 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Exactly.

554
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:10:56pm
555
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:11:19pm

re: #551 jaunte

Oh look, Texas senators woke up and got worried.

[Embedded content]

Cruz would rather be writing letters to the San Francisco Chronicle or stalking in a lovers’ lane.

556
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:13:31pm

“…As the Trump administration backs away from its unpopular zero tolerance policy of separating migrant families, and orders the reunification of some 2,300 children with their families, the burden will be on those children to help identify their families and where they are.”

Because this administration is CRIMINALLY INCOMPETENT.

557
lawhawk  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:14:15pm

re: #555 HappyWarrior

Cruz would rather be writing letters to the San Francisco Chronicle or stalking in a lovers’ lane.

He’d much rather be checking out Cory Chase in pornos.

558
Romantic Heretic  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:15:20pm

re: #520 jaunte

Then go away and take your fellow barbarians with you, you addle-pated, gangrenous sack of protoplasm.

559
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:15:47pm

re: #557 lawhawk

He’d much rather be checking out Cory Chase in pornos.

I was referencing the Zodiac lol.

560
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:18:16pm

I don’t know what goes through people’s minds to allow Trump parade them as victims at his bigoted propaganda rally.

561
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:18:50pm
562
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:19:11pm

Sociopath.

563
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:19:36pm

re: #556 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Because this administration is CRIMINALLY INCOMPETENT.

Heartbreaking.

564
Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:19:39pm
565
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:20:43pm

re: #562 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Sociopath.

JFC what a fucking corpse humping ghoul. I feel bad for these families but this isn’t right.

566
Kragar  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:22:32pm

re: #557 lawhawk

He’d much rather be checking out Cory Chase in pornos.

Who wouldn’t?

567
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:22:40pm

re: #562 jaunte

Sociopath.

Proving that it’s not about the families at all.

568
Kragar  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:23:25pm
569
plansbandc  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:23:27pm

re: #560 jaunte

Someone paid them.

570
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:23:28pm

re: #567 Belafon

Proving that it’s not about the families at all.

It’s never been about them.

571
Belafon  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:23:35pm

re: #551 jaunte

Oh look, Texas senators woke up and got worried.

“Hey, Ted, this is looking bad. We’ve got to find a way to turn this back into the Democrats fault.”

572
jaunte  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:23:40pm

What’s going on here.

573
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:27:35pm

re: #572 jaunte

[Embedded content]

What’s going on here.

The hell is going on.

574
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:28:32pm
575
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:28:59pm

re: #495 jaunte

Something wild about this story.
Maybe not even a week ago I was looking around Google Maps (totally unrelated) and was checking out the border area between Blaine WA & Surrey, BC.
And, was marveling at this view (Google Maps in Street View) from a road in Canada looking into the US. That playground (in view) is called Peace Arch Playground, in Peace Arch State Park. She would have crossed the border long the beach maybe 800 ft west.

576
HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:29:09pm

re: #574 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

WTF is wrong with this administration.

577
Teukka  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:34:36pm

re: #572 jaunte

[Embedded content]

What’s going on here.

Wasn’t there some chatter a while back about someone in the WH saying something about only a major terrorist attack being able to save the GOP this fall?

And what sort of terrorist attack would require that sort of transport?
[tinfoil]I’m thinking the first WMD terror attack?[/tinfoil]

578
MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 12:47:12pm

re: #576 HappyWarrior

WTF is wrong with this administration.

Everything. Every damned thing possible.

579
Eventual Carrion  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:04:01pm

re: #511 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That list has just a couple people more than 1 person, Dylann Roof, killed all by his lonesome. And the cops bought him Burger King

580
BeachDem  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:12:58pm

re: #579 Eventual Carrion

That list has just a couple people more than 1 person, Dylann Roof, killed all by his lonesome. And the cops bought him Burger King

And six on the list say “allegedly”

581
Jay C  Jun 22, 2018 • 1:38:26pm

re: #513 HappyWarrior

This is fucking sick.

But not unexpected. Didn’t Trump make a specific point of inviting parents/relatives of “illegal alien” assaults to on-the-dais- places-of-honor at his campaign rallies? And make sure they (“Angel Moms” or whatever) were always prominently mentioned in his stump speeches?
What I think is also pretty sick is the notion that the White House has apparently spent some degree effort to identify, and locate these 13 victims’ relatives: and convince them to allow their losses to be blatantly exploited in the service of ginning up xenophobic prejudice. Though I’m sure they’re all Good Loyal Trumpers completely convinced they’re doing a Good Thing by letting the Orange Anus fundraise or rabble-rouse off their grief….

Also: I noticed the word “alleged” occurs with some frequency in that list.

582
The Major  Jun 22, 2018 • 2:36:36pm

re: #469 Belafon

We’ve been a technological civilization for a few thousand years, unless you mean once we are able to broadcast radio waves.

If an advanced species was to send a probe to earth and it’s scanners were aimed at the Central US, they’d pickup AM radio and high concentrations of methane from cows.

Just think - those advanced species would be finding country music and/or right wing demagogues and cow farts and wonder what kind of species exists….

And a chilling Doctor Who along the same lines…..

The Doctor Vs The Prime Minister | Doctor Who | The Christmas Invasion | BBC


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Steely Dan: More Than Just a BandPOLYPHONIC MERCHANDISE: store.dftba.com Music by Pracs: SoundCloud Support me on Patreon: patreon.com Twitter: @watchpolyphonicFacebook: facebook.com
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The Faim - Midland Line [Official Video] Another band from the John Feldman / BMG power-punk-pop stable, known for their infectious beats straight from the '80's and party vocals. the Faim hails from Perth. Summer Is A Curse EP out now: thefaim.lnk.to 'Midland Line' Out Now: ...
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Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats Performing ‘You Worry Me’ Live on KCRW Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats released their excellent sophomore album Tearing at the Seams earlier this year and have been on the road ever since. Inspired by personal drama, but full of hope, the new songs come alive ...
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Childish Gambino - Feels Like Summer There's a lot more to the lyrics and the video than you first see, while the music amd vocal style reminds me of some "hopeful while showing the hopeless" '70's tunes. “Feels Like Summer” by Childish Gambino smarturl.ittour tickets ...
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The 36% Deplorables Still Back the Babooncnn.com No suprise to me. Despite the raving lunatic Tweets, the nonsense policy decisions, the stoking of racial tensions, the Mafia Thug style approach to law, and the blatant grabs for more power, Trump has not dipped in his support ...
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Bank of America Reportedly Froze Some Accounts After Asking Customers About Their Citizenship It is a fact the American law does not require citizenship to open a bank account. Nor should it. Xenophobia is a terrible business model and attitude. Businessmen come here and do business, that's called economic activity. In order ...
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Myanmar Court Sentences Reuters Reporters to Seven Years in Prison A court sentenced two Reuters reporters who exposed human-rights abuses by Myanmar’s military to seven years in prison on Monday for obtaining state secrets, in a case that raised questions about judicial independence and became emblematic of the country’s ...
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Russia: Space Station Air Pressure Restored After Leak Finally: some good news about Russia. Share this with your friends! From To Compose your message Share Russia: Space station air pressure restored after leak https://www.kiro7.com/news/russia-space-station-air-pressure-restored-after-leak/824391539 Russia: Space station air pressure restored after leak MOSCOW (AP) - Russia's space ...
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