And Now for a Baby Sumatran Orangutan
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This Sumatran Orangutan inflicts its ineffable cuteness upon you, courtesy of ZooBorns.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:31:44pm |
I wonder if adult orangs are as nasty as adult chimps?
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Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:33:15pm |
God, but I adore orangutans. They are so sweet.
I love the punky hair.
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Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:34:10pm |
re: #2 BignJames
I wonder if adult orangs are as nasty as adult chimps?
No, they are very sweet. They are very much nicer than chimpanzees. Of course, chimps and humans are a lot alike, so there you go.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:35:03pm |
re: #2 BignJames
I wonder if adult orangs are as nasty as adult chimps?
Nope. But it is nice to have a cuteness thread tonight.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:37:33pm |
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Jack Burton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:38:18pm |
Dr Zaius!
Defender of the Faith or Guardian of the Terrible Secret?
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Jack Burton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:40:21pm |
re: #2 BignJames
I wonder if adult orangs are as nasty as adult chimps?
Adult chimps become scientists and farmers. Adult orangs become politicians and priests.
/ape shall never kill ape
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:40:55pm |
re: #11 ArchangelMichael
Dr Zaius!
Defender of the Faith or Guardian of the Terrible Secret?
Guardian of the Terrible Secret. I hear he knows where Obama's Nirth Certifakte is.
/s
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gmsc Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:41:24pm |
re: #11 ArchangelMichael
Dr Zaius!
Defender of the Faith or Guardian of the Terrible Secret?
Or just a really good singer?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:41:26pm |
re: #13 ArchangelMichael
Adult chimps become scientists and farmers. Adult orangs become politicians and priests.
/ape shall never kill ape
Nice reference.
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axegrinder Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:43:30pm |
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Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:44:12pm |
OT (not orangutan related)
I love NiN! Just realized they're giving their CD away for free! Woot! /downloading
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Jack Burton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:45:19pm |
re: #16 gmsc
Or just a really good singer?
I hate every ape I see from Chimpan-A to Chimpan-Z!
You wont make a monkey out of me!
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axegrinder Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:46:25pm |
re: #19 Catttt
OT (not orangutan related)
I love NiN! Just realized they're giving their CD away for free! Woot! /downloading
You mean everybody isn't giving away their music for free? I need to write my usenet provider a stern letter. I haven't purchased a cd in almost 3 years.
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Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:46:50pm |
re: #20 mrshankly01
iTunes?
Download from [Link: theslip.nin.com...]
They have several formats to choose from. You have to answer an e-mail so they can be sure you are a real person.
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Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:48:12pm |
re: #22 axegrinder
You mean everybody isn't giving away their music for free? I need to write my usenet provider a stern letter. I haven't purchased a cd in almost 3 years.
I know, I know. Actually, the best quality (except for the Wave thing, which is uber high technobabble quality) is downloaded through torrent.
It that they are doing it on PURPOSE. It's way cool.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:51:26pm |
re: #12 Syrah
Something for you in the book spin-offs
LGF is loading so slow for me- forgive very late replies.
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Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:51:41pm |
Oh noes! Not the evil Baby Sumatran Orangutan!
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:52:17pm |
re: #23 Catttt
You have to answer an e-mail so they can be sure
you are a real personto e-market to you for the rest of your frickin' life.
Sorry. Was that out loud?
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Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:52:59pm |
re: #26 Sharmuta
LGF is loading so slow for me- forgive very late replies.
A shutdown/restart might help clear things up a bit. But then again, it might not. It might still be worth a try.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:53:01pm |
And in other news, Cynthia McKinney latest voyage has ended up as a Failboat cruise:
Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized
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gmsc Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:54:06pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
And in other news, Cynthia McKinney latest voyage has ended up as a Failboat cruise:
Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized
I'm glad to see Israel will still good things for us, even if we abandon them.
;)
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mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:54:30pm |
re: #31 gmsc
Wow, makes me embarrassed to be from Georgia...
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:55:26pm |
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axegrinder Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:55:34pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
And in other news, Cynthia McKinney latest voyage has ended up as a Failboat cruise:
Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized
All I can say is: Bwahahaha! ROFLMAO!
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:56:10pm |
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gmsc Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:56:21pm |
re: #30 Dark_Falcon
And in other news, Cynthia McKinney latest voyage has ended up as a Failboat cruise:
Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized
From the link:
"We were in international waters on a boat delivering humanitarian aid to people in Gaza when the Israeli Navy ships surrounded us and illegally threatened us, dismantled our navigation equipment, boarded and confiscated the ship," she said in a statement, adding that they were immediately taken into custody.
The Israeli army had to do it, as Ragnar Danneskjold was unavailable.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:57:03pm |
re: #26 Sharmuta
LGF is loading so slow for me- forgive very late replies.
that's becoming quite a mystery...I've not had a lick of trouble
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:58:22pm |
re: #36 Noam Sayin'
Uh-huh.
Actually, I take that back. I was being snarky. I've signed up on a few artists' emails and I'm quite pleased how respectful they can be about eblasts.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:59:21pm |
re: #37 gmsc
The Israeli army had to do it, as Ragnar Danneskjold was unavailable.
Had to Google the reference but it does make sense now that I have done so.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, July 3rd:
Click here for History Channel's July 3rd video.
Highlights of this day in history: Québec City founded by Samuel de Champlain. Spanish-American War: The Spanish fleet, led by Pascual Cervera y Topete, is destroyed by the U.S. Navy in Santiago, Cuba. President Ronald Reagan presides over the relighting of the renovated Statue of Liberty. The final day of the Battle of Gettysburg culminates with Pickett's Charge.
Other notable July 3rd events include:
1819 – The first savings bank in the United States (The Bank of Savings in New York City) opens.
1852 – Congress establishes the United States's 2nd mint in San Francisco, California.
1884 – Dow Jones published its 1st stock average.
1890 – Idaho is admitted as the 43rd U.S. state.
1952 – Puerto Rico's Constitution is approved by the Congress of the United States.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:00:41am |
I don't know why she doesn't just lie down in front of an Israeli bulldozer. THAT would show us her commitment of support for terrorism like nothing else could. Ooops, was that mean?
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:01:18am |
re: #41 Dark_Falcon
Had to Google the reference but it does make sense now that I have done so.
Funnily enough, I had to Google the spelling to get it right in the first place!
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albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:02:17am |
re: #42 gmsc
Pickett took one for the team that day...Lee's one monumental failure
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:03:16am |
re: #23 Catttt
Download from [Link: theslip.nin.com...]
They have several formats to choose from. You have to answer an e-mail so they can be sure you are a real person.
Thanks for posting that. Downloading now.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:05:40am |
re: #46 albusteve
Pickett took one for the team that day...Lee's one monumental failure
Not really. Pickett wasn't really in command of his division during its charge. He led from behind. (Though in fairness, even had he lead from the front the South would have still lost the battle. The plan was bad from the get-go.)
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:07:24am |
It's time for me to go to bed. I may be back in the morning, but after that i won't be back till Saturday night. I'm going up to Wisconsin tomorrow and won't have Internet where I'll be sleeping tomorrow night.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:08:02am |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
It's time for me to go to bed. I may be back in the morning, but after that i won't be back till Saturday night. I'm going up to Wisconsin tomorrow and won't have Internet where I'll be sleeping tomorrow night.
Have a good 4th!
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:08:18am |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
I'm going up to Wisconsin tomorrow and won't have Internet where I'll be sleeping tomorrow night.
What is this? The dark ages?
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:10:19am |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
It's time for me to go to bed. I may be back in the morning, but after that i won't be back till Saturday night. I'm going up to Wisconsin tomorrow and won't have Internet where I'll be sleeping tomorrow night.
Good night, Dark_Falcon!
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Sharmuta Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:10:44am |
re: #29 Syrah
A shutdown/restart might help clear things up a bit. But then again, it might not. It might still be worth a try.
I tried that. I might have to try again.
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Egregious Philbin Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:11:17am |
Looks like Kathy Griffin, without makeup.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:11:44am |
re: #44 Catttt
That actually is Trent Reznor chasing Dave. My ex wife's sister used date him in the 80's. Her mother liked him; very polite. Quite a shock when I played "I want to f**k you like an animal" for her later on. Pissed the wife off. Ah, well, it would be worth being foolish again to have the youth that goes along with it.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:12:59am |
re: #44 Catttt
I'm afraid of Americans.
[Video]
Good, he should be. To quote P.J. O'Rourke:
“We’re the baddest-assed sons of bitches that ever jogged in Reeboks. We’re three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended from a stock market crash on our mother’s side. You take your Germany, France and Spain, roll them all together and it won’t give us room to park our cars. We’re the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in Cap d’Antibes. And we’ve got an American Express card credit limit higher than your piss-ant metric numbers go."
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:17:21am |
re: #56 axegrinder
That actually is Trent Reznor chasing Dave. My ex wife's sister used date him in the 80's. Her mother liked him; very polite. Quite a shock when I played "I want to f**k you like an animal" for her later on. Pissed the wife off. Ah, well, it would be worth being foolish again to have the youth that goes along with it.
Yeah, that's Trent. Makes an awesome scary guy. :D
My daddy always said "youth is wasted on the young."
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:18:17am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
I tried that. I might have to try again.
A Slow system will be frustrating.
Have you tried a different browser? Could the problem be with your current version of Safari?
On another note, Pink spotted a fascinating phrase used by a yutz one thread down.
See #1031 and #1039.
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albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:18:43am |
re: #48 Dark_Falcon
Not really. Pickett wasn't really in command of his division during its charge. He led from behind. (Though in fairness, even had he lead from the front the South would have still lost the battle. The plan was bad from the get-go.)
the charge was doomed...arty from their left cut them to pieces
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:20:04am |
re: #58 Slumbering Behemoth
Good, he should be. To quote P.J. O'Rourke:
“We’re the baddest-assed sons of bitches that ever jogged in Reeboks. We’re three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended from a stock market crash on our mother’s side. You take your Germany, France and Spain, roll them all together and it won’t give us room to park our cars. We’re the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in Cap d’Antibes. And we’ve got an American Express card credit limit higher than your piss-ant metric numbers go."
I've gotten into many arguments about metric vs. imperial. I take the side of imperial and explain:
"Imperial has such 'odd units', as you put it, because they're derived from units people have handy as they build things. The inch derives from the thumb, the foot, well, is self-explanatory. Almost every unit is based on some handy unit of measurement that allows easy access on the spot, with some adjustments being made for the frequently used divisions of 3rds, 6ths, 8ths and so on.
"In short, the imperial system is for people who constantly build, construct and create. The metric system is made for people who can count to 10."
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:20:05am |
re: #58 Slumbering Behemoth
I love that PJ piece. Makes me proud to be one of those fierce, awesome Americans. Especially right around Independence Day, yes?
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:22:10am |
Quick joke:
What's the difference between a journalist and a lobbyist?
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:23:30am |
re: #66 gmsc
Quick joke:
What's the difference between a journalist and a lobbyist?
Yeah, nobody else knows, either.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:24:26am |
re: #66 gmsc
Quick joke:
What's the difference between a journalist and a lobbyist?
100,000 dollars?
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:25:29am |
I dunno. The old hag really stood up for her profession yesterday. I was amazed.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:25:32am |
re: #61 axegrinder
Not anymore. Sadly.
Yeah, many of us quit snorting large quantities of coke. Sad indeed.
///
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:26:45am |
Five gunshots - three, then two - about 2.5 blocks to my NE just now.
I've come to discern the difference between gunshots and fireworks.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:28:54am |
re: #72 mrshankly01
I agree. I enjoy Tapper's blog, too.
Tapper's good. Would like to see more of Juan Williams.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:29:02am |
re: #62 Syrah
You've become one of my favorite posters, Syrah. Good posts, lots of them.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:29:06am |
Motorcycle idling on my street. Sounds like the neighbor's Triumph.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:29:38am |
re: #64 gmsc
The metric system is made for people who can count to 10.
And those who buy and/or sell controlled substances.
/
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:29:41am |
Here it is if anybody missed it.
[Link: www.connietalk.com...]
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:30:01am |
re: #75 Gus 802
he does give Fox some credibility, him and Hume...
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:30:25am |
re: #75 Gus 802
Tapper's good. Would like to see more of Juan Williams.
He covered for O'Reilly the other day. Did a fantastic job. Very likable guy.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:30:42am |
re: #76 mrshankly01
I hope...
Quick question - is your screenname supposed to be read as "Mr. Shankly" or "Mrs. Hankly"?
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:30:43am |
re: #74 mrshankly01
people celebrating the cheap way?
That's what I'm thinking. But gangs are stirring lately in Minneapolis.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:30:55am |
re: #75 Gus 802
Tapper's good. Would like to see more of Juan Williams.
I agree on both of those guys.
Juan Williams is one of my favorites - if I were more TV-oriented, I would try to remember to watch the shows he's on.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:31:07am |
re: #75 Gus 802
Tapper's good. Would like to see more of Juan Williams.
Yeah, but Juan'll piss you off, sure as shootin' He'll be making lots of sense and then say something that sounds like it's right out of Kos.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:31:23am |
re: #83 gmsc
Quick question - is your screenname supposed to be read as "Mr. Shankly" or "Mrs. Hankly"?
I vote Shankly. Hope I'm right or I'll have to reorient.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:31:43am |
re: #83 gmsc
Quick question - is your screenname supposed to be read as "Mr. Shankly" or "Mrs. Hankly"?
Just peak under her skirt and figure it out.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:32:01am |
re: #86 pink freud
Yeah, but Juan'll piss you off, sure as shootin' He'll be making lots of sense and then say something that sounds like it's right out of Kos.
Oh, he does? That's the last thing we need. Have enough of that well, you know.
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sngnsgt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:32:05am |
re: #75 Gus 802
Tapper's good. Would like to see more of Juan Williams.
This past week is the first time I remember seeing Juan in for Bill O.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:32:58am |
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:33:04am |
re: #85 Catttt
I used to catch him on NPR. I think they disowned him once he went to Fox, though.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:33:34am |
re: #91 mrshankly01
But you really should wear underwear.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:34:00am |
Dammit. Melle Alizée has pulled ahead of Paula Abdul in the best female solo artist on Twitter Wall. Damn Parisian. Huh.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:34:16am |
re: #83 gmsc
Quick question - is your screenname supposed to be read as "Mr. Shankly" or "Mrs. Hankly"?
I bet it's "Mrs. Hanky", with the "l" being a typo.
/kidding
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:35:19am |
re: #93 mrshankly01
I used to catch him on NPR. I think they disowned him once he went to Fox, though.
That's where I first saw him. On the Jim Lehrer News Hour many years ago. McNeil Lehrer...
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:35:30am |
re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth
nobody likes the band The Smiths
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:35:48am |
re: #96 Catttt
I met Paula Abdul back in '91. Gosh, was she a cutie. Totally sweet, too.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:35:54am |
re: #96 Catttt
Dammit. Melle Alizée has pulled ahead of Paula Abdul in the best female solo artist on Twitter Wall. Damn Parisian. Huh.
What? Babs isn't #1?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:36:43am |
re: #100 mrshankly01
nobody likes the band The Smiths
That went right over my head. Perhaps I should let my hair grow out a little.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:36:46am |
re: #98 mrshankly01
I am of Scottish Lineage...
Did you know the bagpipes were a gift to the Scots from the Irish?
/the joke hasn't caught on yet.
;)
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austin_blue Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:36:53am |
Well, I got my Karmic Ass handed to me on the last thread. So it goes. Have a good night, fellow lizards. Tomorrow is buy for the Fourth of July day, which will entail much purchasing of protein, especially pork and beef products for BBQs on Saturday. Have a wonderful Fourth, and best wishes that all good things come to the US this coming year.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:37:46am |
re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, the are from the 1980s. Lead signer was Morrissey.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:23am |
re: #106 austin_blue
Well, I got my Karmic Ass handed to me on the last thread. So it goes. Have a good night, fellow lizards. Tomorrow is buy for the Fourth of July day, which will entail much purchasing of protein, especially pork and beef products for BBQs on Saturday. Have a wonderful Fourth, and best wishes that all good things come to the US this coming year.
Right back at ya.
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:36am |
re: #77 pink freud
That was a good catch on 1031 down thread. I had missed it. It was an important revelation of its worldview.
That one is stuck.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:44am |
re: #106 austin_blue
Don't know what it's like in your area, but if it's anything like mine, you should have done your BBQ type shopping yesterday.
Good news? Beer is always plentiful. No store would ever brave the consequences of running out of that on a holiday weekend.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:40:40am |
re: #109 Syrah
I've been damn near living on a university campus these last few years. I can spot the buzzwords and their owners a mile away.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:40:43am |
re: #101 Noam Sayin'
I met Paula Abdul back in '91. Gosh, was she a cutie. Totally sweet, too.
Still my favorite Paula Abdul video:
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:41:00am |
re: #101 Noam Sayin'
I met Paula Abdul back in '91. Gosh, was she a cutie. Totally sweet, too.
She's totally sweet - exactly, bless her heart.
She was number one - we will get her back to one. You can vote every 20 minutes or so. :D
Adam Lambert is number one for best male (no cracks outta youse guys) solo artist - he's totally ahead of everyone else. David Archuletta's rabid Mormon (no offense to Mormons) fanbase is trying to beat out Adam's rabid sinful evil fanbase, but there are more of us sinful evil music fans. Bwahahahaha!
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:41:09am |
re: #106 austin_blue
Well, I got my Karmic Ass handed to me on the last thread. So it goes. Have a good night, fellow lizards. Tomorrow is buy for the Fourth of July day, which will entail much purchasing of protein, especially pork and beef products for BBQs on Saturday. Have a wonderful Fourth, and best wishes that all good things come to the US this coming year.
I may not agree with you on much of anything, excepting the virtues of Okra.
Fried Okra is one of my all time favorites.
Happy 4th.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:42:38am |
re: #107 mrshankly01
Well, the are from the 1980s. Lead signer was Morrissey.
That I know. What goes over my head is how it relates to my post.
Anywho, here's a nice song about Morrissey. Well, not nice, but funny.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:29am |
re: #112 pink freud
One of my favorite examples here recently was the goof who started talking about gender being a "social construct" and being "gender indeterminate". Very popular and trendy *ideas* with this younger set.
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TheMatrix31 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:32am |
re: #116 Syrah
I may not agree with you on much of anything, excepting the virtues of Okra.
Fried Okra is one of my all time favorites.
Happy 4th.
We have an Armenian dish which is basically an okra stew. Okra, red sauce, meat, all over a bed of rice.
I love it.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:35am |
re: #112 pink freud
I've been damn near living on a university campus these last few years. I can spot the buzzwords and their owners a mile away.
Must be like listening to Pacifica Radio or even worse, Temple University radio. They'd used to have these militant types. The types that would say things like "the ramifications of the ipso facto ruling classes victimizing the disempowered members of our ghetto community..." And blah, blah, blah...
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:44:59am |
re: #120 Gus 802
Must be like listening to Pacifica Radio or even worse, Temple University radio. They'd used to have these militant types. The types that would say things like "the ramifications of the ipso facto ruling classes victimizing the disempowered members of our ghetto community..." And blah, blah, blah...
The radio station from The Warriors?
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:27am |
re: #113 gmsc
Loved that vid. Truth be told? I had such a crush on her when I met her it was all I could do to be cool. I'm in the music biz at the time, so I'm supposed to act like I'm used to being around celebrities. I credit her for the confidence to one day flirt with Sheila E, several years later. Paula was so nice.
Battery's on yellow. We'll see ya, folks.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:29am |
re: #116 Syrah
I may not agree with you on much of anything, excepting the virtues of Okra.
Fried Okra is one of my all time favorites.
Happy 4th.
It's all in the batter. Best if slightly burned.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:30am |
re: #120 Gus 802
Must be like listening to Pacifica Radio or even worse, Temple University radio. They'd used to have these militant types. The types that would say things like "the ramifications of the ipso facto ruling classes victimizing the disempowered members of our ghetto community..." And blah, blah, blah...
I will admit they seem to have an uncanny ability to string words together so they sound all profound. Then you boil it down and what's left? Nothing. Fragments.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:55am |
re: #116 Syrah
I may not agree with you on much of anything, excepting the virtues of Okra.
Fried Okra is one of my all time favorites.
Happy 4th.
I'd kill for a nice, hot hush puppy or two right now.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:10am |
re: #122 Noam Sayin'
Goodnight Noam!
You stay safe over there where the bullets are flying. And have a wonderful 4th!
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:15am |
re: #109 Syrah
wow, yea, great catch. i didn't catch it on the other thread. just thought you pulled it out of the general menage of code words....
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:51am |
re: #118 pink freud
One of my favorite examples here recently was the goof who started talking about gender being a "social construct" and being "gender indeterminate". Very popular and trendy *ideas* with this younger set.
Such people can only exist in a rich and tolerant civilization. If they ever get the world they keep demanding, they are going to be in for a world of hurt.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:56am |
re: #118 pink freud
One of my favorite examples here recently was the goof who started talking about gender being a "social construct" and being "gender indeterminate". Very popular and trendy *ideas* with this younger set.
The disempowering effects and ramifications of the social construct as defined by the white European male enforcing their pre-conceived notions of a social contract forced upon the diaspora of our native peoples.
////Temple speak.
//
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:47:02am |
/bears repeating, in case someone tries something over the U.S. holiday, who do you believe?
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Sharmuta Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:47:03am |
Suddenly out of no where- the pages are loading for me. I finally got you book link, Syrah. Thank you and I'll look into it.
{Syrah}
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:47:54am |
re: #124 pink freud
I will admit they seem to have an uncanny ability to string words together so they sound all profound. Then you boil it down and what's left? Nothing. Fragments.
Yep. It's lingo. Some of the stuff I remember is probably old school. Like the pseudo latin quips. They still love the word "diaspora."
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:48:21am |
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:48:25am |
re: #128 Syrah
Such people can only exist in a rich and tolerant civilization. If they ever get the world they keep demanding, they are going to be in for a world of hurt.
That's why we're here. :-)
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:48:55am |
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:49:14am |
re: #117 Slumbering Behemoth
sorry, when I said "nobody likes the band The Smiths" I was asking a question, not making a statement. my mistake. Frankly Mr. Shankly is a Smiths Songs. I am an enormous fan.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:49:15am |
re: #122 Noam Sayin'
Loved that vid. Truth be told? I had such a crush on her when I met her it was all I could do to be cool. I'm in the music biz at the time, so I'm supposed to act like I'm used to being around celebrities. I credit her for the confidence to one day flirt with Sheila E, several years later. Paula was so nice.
Battery's on yellow. We'll see ya, folks.
G'Nite, Noam!
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:50:35am |
re: #127 mrshankly01
wow, yea, great catch. i didn't catch it on the other thread. just thought you pulled it out of the general menage of code words....
Credit for that goes to Pink.
Have you seen our discussions of A Conflict of Visions?
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:11am |
re: #118 pink freud
One of my favorite examples here recently was the goof who started talking about gender being a "social construct" and being "gender indeterminate". Very popular and trendy *ideas* with this younger set.
One of the rules for being in the "best male solo artist" contest on Tweeterwall, and I quote:
Rule 4 They must be all man (aka: must have a winky/weiner).
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:29am |
re: #142 Syrah
I love Sowell. I have not read this, though.
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:52:33am |
re: #144 mrshankly01
I love Sowell. I have not read this, though.
I strongly recommend it. It is not any easy read, but it is well worth it.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:53:58am |
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:54:17am |
re: #143 Catttt
One of the rules for being in the "best male solo artist" contest on Tweeterwall, and I quote:
Rule 4 They must be all man (aka: must have a winky/weiner).
That must be fun for the person in charge of verifying eligibility.
;)
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:01am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:03am |
re: #136 mrshankly01
Ah. You left out the question mark, thus my confusion. I guess you wouldn't care for that Warlock Pinchers song I linked then.
And to answer your question: No, nobody likes The Smiths. Not even you.
/'sall good. Enjoy whatever music you like, it does me no harm. But I do like to give folks a ribbing.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:24am |
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:04am |
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:13am |
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:24am |
Eegad!Waffle House waiter sues over Taser incident
A police corporal in Gwinnett County GA has been fired and arrested after he apparently tazed an unsuspecting waiter just for the hell of it. Two sergeants who were amused at the incident and failed to report it have been fired.
I wonder if they're Scrabble players?
Some explanation: Back when I was in grad school, I worked as a security guard at a 4 star hotel. The most trouble we had was not from drunken rich guys during quail season, or groupie crazed rock bands, it was from the players at a major Scrabble tournament we had the misfortune to host. They might best be described as hillbilly nerds, a very odd crew indeed, and rather prone to violence. No fewer than five of them were arrested for felonies involving the hotel during the 3 day event, all for various forms of assault. One idiot struck a bellman over the head with a suitcase when the bellman dared to pick up his custom-made Scrabble set while they were getting out of the van, knocked him down and bloodied his head, in fact. This happened in full view of me and a police officer who happened to be there.
The crazy player picked up his stuff and started into the door like nothing had happened, then resisted like a biker on meth when we stopped him. We eventually beat him to a pulp in the process of getting him cuffed. Another threw a plate of food at an elderly waitress because his eggs didn't look right. This jackass turned out to be be a junior officer in the Air Force (though not for long). Two others were arrested (and three sent to the ER) when a melee broke out during the tournament itself. Unfortunately, I was not that there at the time, it might have been fun to kick the whole pack around for a while. Finally, the selfsame driver who had been assaulted in the driveway on the first day of the tournament was again assaulted at the airport as he dropped a load of Scrabblers on the last day. One of them, a fat little jerk in a black cowboy hat, shoved him when the driver held the door for him. The driver fought back this time, the airport police arrived very quickly after witnessing the episode and, just like last time, the offender insisted on resisting until he was beaten senseless.
The hotel manager sent them a bill for several thousand dollars in extra costs and told them in on uncertain terms not to come back. I think the chamber of commerce might have told them not to come back to town at all.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:06am |
re: #147 Sharmuta
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
That's interesting! Especially where he mentions that Jefferson probably never broke the code, and never realized the "joke".
Thanks!
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:11am |
re: #150 gmsc
That must be fun for the person in charge of verifying eligibility.
;)
I'll be happy to lend them a hand. :D
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:28am |
re: #151 mrshankly01
You can safely change your avatar.
/it's over for now, further resistance just gets people killed, arrested, or disappeared
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:05am |
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:32am |
re: #156 Gus 802
"They're from Coney Island!"
My favorite was the Baseball Furies. The first time I saw the movie I was laughing my ass off over those guys.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:23am |
re: #152 ArchangelMichael
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:58am |
re: #161 gmsc
I would have never expected.... ever to see a Tupac and Dre video posted here lol.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:06am |
re: #160 Killian Bundy
naw man,
i did three tours in Iraq just so something like this would happen. I am going to leave it up for a little while longer.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:14am |
re: #160 Killian Bundy
Don't wear green or say God is Great in Iran or you get beaten and thrown in prison.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:12am |
re: #164 ArchangelMichael
I would have never expected.... ever to see a Tupac and Dre video posted here lol.
Thought that was Tupac. Who's the ugly looking one with the giant mouth?
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:52am |
re: #162 ArchangelMichael
My favorite was the Baseball Furies. The first time I saw the movie I was laughing my ass off over those guys.
Dude, they were all professional dancers. Which means most of them were gay. But really fast runners.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:51am |
re: #167 Gus 802
Thought that was Tupac. Who's the ugly looking one with the giant mouth?
The guy saying Can you dig it was George Clinton.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:13am |
re: #167 Gus 802
Thought that was Tupac. Who's the ugly looking one with the giant mouth?
Are you kidding? That's George Clinton!
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:36am |
re: #170 ArchangelMichael
The guy saying Can you dig it was George Clinton.
OK, I recognized the Funkadelic "look."
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:57am |
re: #168 Sharmuta
I read it and thought of you.
:)
Thanks! It'll make a great post-July 4th blog entry.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:10am |
re: #157 shiplord kirel
That story gets an upding just for the strangeness of it. Scrabble players, who'd a thunk it?
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:26am |
re: #171 gmsc
Are you kidding? That's George Clinton!
"Mersh! You gotta lay off the pipe man. Clinton is HERE!"
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:40am |
re: #164 ArchangelMichael
I would have never expected.... ever to see a Tupac and Dre video posted here lol.
Especially by the guy who has 400 digits of pi memorized?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:07:28am |
This Sumatran Orangutan inflicts its ineffable cuteness upon you
/don't fall for it, [expletive deleted] will chew your face off
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08:06am |
I've lived here in this house for 2-1/2 years. I have a bathroom here in my bedroom (over to my right by about 5 feet) with one of those wooden sliding pocket doors. About a month after I'd moved in, a loud bang woke me. The pocket door had slammed shut. It was near 3 a.m. I grabbed my gun, ran to get my son (who was sound asleep) and we gingerly went to open the door into the bathroom .....had someone broken in? Locked. Yep. The pocket door was locked. From the inside. This particular bathroom has a window so off we went outside to check if someone had broken in. Nope, screen on, window closed.
We got tools, saw there was a heavy screwhead on the outside of the inset door lock assembly; turned that with a screwdriver and the door unlocked. Opened it ...nothing/no one inside. Window was still locked.
In examining the lock mechanism, I found that in the door section there were two heavy brass brackets that slid from either side and met in the middle in the closed position. When the door was closed and the knob was turned, these two brass plates moved inward and grasped onto an indented brass knob inset into the frame of the door.
There is no way that the door could have closed (slammed) by itself and then the knob somehow accidentally turned itself, causing the two brass plates to move inward from the left and the right to the middle and clasp onto the brass knob.
I don't spook easy and I'm not going anywhere, so I went into the bathroom the next day and said aloud "Please go, I don't want you here."
It didn't happen again. Until three nights ago. Except now, I don't hear it. I wake up in the morning and the door (always left open at night) is closed and locked. For the last three mornings.
Nope, Haven't seen a thing. Though I am expecting I might.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:08am |
re: #144 mrshankly01
I love Sowell. I have not read this, though.
You should follow their next book thread (Sharm and Syrah ...fascinating stuff)
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:37am |
re: #175 Slumbering Behemoth
That story gets an upding just for the strangeness of it. Scrabble players, who'd a thunk it?
I think there's a whole subculture of violent geeks out there. Y'all probably thought your college jocks were just being sadistic louts when they picked on the campus nerds. Hell, maybe it was self-defense.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:55am |
re: #177 gmsc
Especially by the guy who has 400 digits of pi memorized?
Well I have 12 digits of pi memorized, which is probably 5-6 more than most people. I'm probably the only person who was an Industrial Music DJ who also had a bunch of old early 90s hip hop, and was Right-of-center.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:10:55am |
re: #162 ArchangelMichael
My favorite was the Baseball Furies. The first time I saw the movie I was laughing my ass off over those guys.
KISS was crazy popular at that time, so the Furies, and the Hi Hats, were inspired by the whole KISS make-up thing. Or so I have heard.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:00am |
re: #179 pink freud
That's peculiar. I think I'd move. Just sayin'.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:03am |
re: #165 mrshankly01
naw man,
i did three tours in Iraq just so something like this would happen. I am going to leave it up for a little while longer.
I was a metaphor.
/the underlying civilian sabotage continues 24/7, I just wish we were serious about it
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:25am |
Just for fun - here's a multi-night project I've just decided to do: the 100 best music videos of the 20th century!
Let's start with #100, and the rest, I'll post as I feel like posting it:
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:12:04am |
re: #187 Killian Bundy
yea, it s sad. very much like the Shia Uprising in Iraq in 91.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:12:20am |
re: #181 Gus 802
It's a wonderful house in a wonderful location. I just wish the damn door would stop closing by itself.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:12:29am |
re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth
KISS was crazy popular at that time, so the Furies, and the Hi Hats, were inspired by the whole KISS make-up thing. Or so I have heard.
That makes sense. Everyone was nuts over KISS when they were in clown-mode.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:09am |
re: #184 mrshankly01
where is the book thread?
Sharm and Syrah set it up. I don't think there's one active right now. Sharm?
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:10am |
re: #188 gmsc
Just for fun - here's a multi-night project I've just decided to do: the 100 best music videos of the 20th century!
Let's start with #100, and the rest, I'll post as I feel like posting it:
[Video]
I hope ZZ Top gets in there somewhere.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:14:20am |
re: #188 gmsc
It would take me all night to figure out and put in order.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:15:35am |
re: #190 pink freud
It's a wonderful house in a wonderful location. I just wish the damn door would stop closing by itself.
Sounds like the track might be angled down in the direction it closes. Of course some torque in the action would help minimize that.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:32am |
re: #196 mrshankly01
Ok, thanks.
They ran several on Sowell's book but I'm hearing they are going to do a re-do. It gets set up in the spin-off links section under books, I believe.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:34am |
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:42am |
re: #179 pink freud
I know how you feel. I am not a 'aliens abducted me' type either.
Then Mom died. All hell broke loose. Not just in my house. In my sister's and my neice's homes too. It took almost 3 years to convince her to go away.
It's not something I talk about on the internet but if you want advice (and we all ended up getting what would be considered professional advice) my nic is blue
oh, good morning lizardia.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:29am |
re: #193 axegrinder
I hope ZZ Top gets in there somewhere.
Definitely, but they're not in the bottom 50, so it could be a while.
#99, Parents Just Don't Understand, has embedding disabled by request.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:39am |
re: #197 Gus 802
No track. Runs flush along the tile floor. Perfectly level. I checked. ;-)
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:32am |
re: #204 pink freud
No track. Runs flush along the tile floor. Perfectly level. I checked. ;-)
Gremlins!
At night only? Might be temperature related.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:39am |
re: #189 mrshankly01
yea, it s sad. very much like the Shia Uprising in Iraq in 91.
Well, I'd like to order a carefully planned 2000+ aim point air strike against Iran, with all the attendant support obligations.
/but that's just me and Israel
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:56am |
re: #202 wahabicorridor
I know how you feel. I am not a 'aliens abducted me' type either.
Then Mom died. All hell broke loose. Not just in my house. In my sister's and my neice's homes too. It took almost 3 years to convince her to go away.
It's not something I talk about on the internet but if you want advice (and we all ended up getting what would be considered professional advice) my nic is blue
oh, good morning lizardia.
Put a horseshoe and a string of garlic over the door. That ought to to the trick. Maybe leave a line of salt along the bottom.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:53am |
re: #206 Killian Bundy
Yea, I hate to say it, but could this revolt have happened at a worse time...
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:55am |
re: #202 wahabicorridor
I'm not really funny about talking about it. (Although as most here know, I don't reveal a lot about myself on the threads.) I mean ....I'm not doing anything. It's not like I have to believe or not believe something in order for this to happen ....it's just happening. And I can't explain it rationally. I was more afraid when I thought it was a break-in than I am of the alternative.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:56am |
re: #194 axegrinder
Twisted Sister. "I wanna Rock."
It's Mr. Beckerstead from "One Crazy Summer" hehe
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:27am |
re: #207 axegrinder
Put a horseshoe and a string of garlic over the door. That ought to to the trick. Maybe leave a line of salt along the bottom.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:28am |
re: #204 pink freud
No track. Runs flush along the tile floor. Perfectly level. I checked. ;-)
There must be a track of some kind. Perhaps set into the wall where the door slides into?
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:48am |
re: #207 axegrinder
Put a horseshoe and a string of garlic over the door. That ought to to the trick. Maybe leave a line of salt along the bottom.
Cute. Except it won't work when she decides to call you on the phone to tell you not to worry about her.
No. Joke. Had it been just me I would probably have had myself committed. But it was all 'her girls'. All of us.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:15am |
re: #214 gmsc
Of course. Especially when subjected to that video.
/
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:45am |
re: #205 Gus 802
What's confounding is that the brass bars don't slide from top to bottom, they slide from side to side. And the little handle that turns to move them into locking position is quite stiff.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:15am |
re: #209 pink freud
And I can't explain it rationally. I was more afraid when I thought it was a break-in than I am of the alternative
Good. My guess is this has nothing to do with you personally (unlike my family's case). If you really want to pursue it, talk to the previous occupant(s).
One thing we did find out - for the most part these lost souls do no harm.
And that's all I'm sayin'. It's very strange and I don't like going there.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:50am |
#97 also has embedding disabled, but nonetheless, here's Human League's Don't You Want Me!
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:54am |
Anyone who was in junior high in the early 60s will remember grape jokes:
What was round and purple and conquered the world?
Alexander the Grape.
Who was round and purple and swung through the trees?
Tarzan of the Grapes.
What did the grape do when you stepped on it?
It let out a little wine.
After that the counterculture came along and the same people who told these suddenly tried to be serious.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:00am |
One reason Orangutans are endangered - poachers shoot the mothers out of trees and steal the babies to sell to idiot people who buy them as pets.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:30:59am |
re: #219 pink freud
What's confounding is that the brass bars don't slide from top to bottom, they slide from side to side. And the little handle that turns to move them into locking position is quite stiff.
I'm sure there's a logical explanation. Soil heaving can effect level. Are you a slab, crawl space, or basement?
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:31:14am |
re: #223 shiplord kirel
good lord, they had invented junior high back then...
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:31:22am |
re: #225 Gus 802
I'm sure there's a logical explanation. Soil heaving can effect level. Are you on a slab, crawl space, or basement?
Oops.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:32:14am |
re: #224 Catttt
One reason Orangutans are endangered - poachers shoot the mothers out of trees and steal the babies to sell to idiot people who buy them as pets.
What idiot wants an ape as a pet? They are about as intelligent as 3-4 year old children. Treating them as a pet tends to drive them nuts... leading to nasty incidents we hear about on the news.
Every Which Way But Loose and BJ & The Bear were fiction people.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:05am |
re: #224 Catttt
One reason Orangutans are endangered - poachers shoot the mothers out of trees and steal the babies to sell to idiot people who buy them as pets.
They're arguably our closest genetic relatives.
/and yet they don't defend themselves
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:00am |
re: #226 mrshankly01
good lord, they had invented junior high back then...
We had to keep lit torches around to shoo away dinosaurs, but it wasn't a bad environment otherwise.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:06am |
The only place I could even find #96, Bastards of Young, by the Replacements was on MTV's website!
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:08am |
re: #228 ArchangelMichael
Exactly. Hell, I am a serious dog lover, but even so there are some breeds that do not belong with humans. Apes are absolutely dangerous.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:26am |
re: #223 shiplord kirel
Anyone who was in junior high in the early 60s will remember grape jokes:
What was round and purple and conquered the world?
Alexander the Grape.Who was round and purple and swung through the trees?
Tarzan of the Grapes.What did the grape do when you stepped on it?
It let out a little wine.After that the counterculture came along and the same people who told these suddenly tried to be serious.
There are a number of jokes that deal with Groups (a Group is a set of things with an operation thingy defined on them).
Q: What's purple and commutes?
An Abelian grape.
Q: What is purple and all of its offspring have been committed to institutions?
A simple grape, it has no normal subgrapes.
Q: What is lavender and commutes?
An Abelian semigrape.
Q: What's purple, commutes, and is worshipped by a limited number of people?
A finitely-venerated Abelian grape.
Q: What's purple, round, and doesn't get much for Christmas?
A finitely presented grape.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:33am |
re: #116 Syrah
I may not agree with you on much of anything, excepting the virtues of Okra.
Fried Okra is one of my all time favorites.
Happy 4th.
My mom taught me to like southern cooking, even though I grew up in Colorado. Okra is good - it has a bad rep because some people don't know how to cook it.
You ever get okra pickles? I love them.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:22am |
re: #229 Killian Bundy
They're arguably our closest genetic relatives.
/and yet they don't defend themselves
Yet...
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:43am |
re: #230 shiplord kirel
my dad said they had books on something called "paper" and blogs were delivered to your door every day...
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:57am |
re: #227 Gus 802
I apologize if I've made any of you uncomfortable. I posted because I'm comfortable with this group and thought it would make for an interesting story. Let's just let it drop, ok Gus. I'll blue my nic if you'd like to continue with me. I find it fascinating.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:42am |
re: #234 Catttt
Okra is wonderful. Fried okra shouldn't be missed.
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:52am |
re: #228 ArchangelMichael
What idiot wants an ape as a pet? They are about as intelligent as 3-4 year old children. Treating them as a pet tends to drive them nuts... leading to nasty incidents we hear about on the news.
Every Which Way But Loose and BJ & The Bear were fiction people.
I've never known anyone who had an ape as a pet but some folks down the street had a monkey when I was a kid. Disgusting littile beast, capable of generating a phenomenal amount of urine and feces for its size. Just in case that wasn't repulsive enough, it seemed to masturbate and screech constantly and also had a habit of biting people.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:54am |
re: #239 shiplord kirel
wow, enlightening. they look so peaceful in the zoo...
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:00am |
re: #236 mrshankly01
my dad said they had books on something called "paper" and blogs were delivered to your door every day...
This is true. They were made from dead trees that had been sacrificed to the sky gods in an attempt to drive the dinosaurs away. Worked, too.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:04am |
re: #237 pink freud
I apologize if I've made any of you uncomfortable. I posted because I'm comfortable with this group and thought it would make for an interesting story. Let's just let it drop, ok Gus. I'll blue my nic if you'd like to continue with me. I find it fascinating.
It's cool. I was just curious. Was trying to find or think of a mechanical cause. Would be rather strange if that happened in my place methinks.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:26am |
I don't make war on "critters".
/I make war on [expletive deleted] like "Taliban"
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:43am |
re: #239 shiplord kirel
That's what you get when an animal that should be in the wild isn't.
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:57am |
re: #228 ArchangelMichael
What idiot wants an ape as a pet? They are about as intelligent as 3-4 year old children. Treating them as a pet tends to drive them nuts... leading to nasty incidents we hear about on the news.
Every Which Way But Loose and BJ & The Bear were fiction people.
Hard to believe, but true. It's hard to bust poachers - the conservation people in these areas, as always, need more enforcement around parks, etc. Menari is a zooborn, but there are a number of orphaned orangutans that wind up in zoo care.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:40:10am |
re: #239 shiplord kirel
Sonuva.... Those "folks down the street" were my parents, you bastard! And I ain't no freaking monkey you insensitive prick!
/////
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shiplord kirel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:14am |
re: #246 Slumbering Behemoth
Sonuva.... Those "folks down the street" were my parents, you bastard! And I ain't no freaking monkey you insensitive prick!
/////
That you Bobby?
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:37am |
re: #184 mrshankly01
where is the book thread?
I think I have found the links to all of them.
(I was not aware that there were so many.)
Sharmuta Apr 3, 2009 at 10:09:38 pm
Sharmuta Apr 10, 2009 at 10:26:44 pm
Sharmuta Apr 18, 2009 at 8:38:10 am
Sharmuta Apr 24, 2009 at 9:43:24 pm
Sharmuta May 2, 2009 at 11:38:06 pm
Sharmuta May 8, 2009 at 9:55:46 pm
Sharmuta May 15, 2009 at 7:25:23 pm
Sharmuta May 29, 2009 at 11:14:43 pm
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:50am |
re: #225 Gus 802
I'm sure there's a logical explanation. Soil heaving can effect level. Are you a slab, crawl space, or basement?
On the other hand, there are more things, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:52am |
re: #241 shiplord kirel
well, i congratulate you on making it through the 1970s.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:55am |
re: #239 shiplord kirel
I've never known anyone who had an ape as a pet but some folks down the street had a monkey when I was a kid. Disgusting littile beast, capable of generating a phenomenal amount of urine and feces for its size. Just in case that wasn't repulsive enough, it seemed to masturbate and screech constantly and also had a habit of biting people.
That's another thing right there. Every time I've ever seen apes or monkeys in the zoo, at least one is masturbating. My gf told me when she was younger at the LA zoo a chimp would have basically bukkaked her if there wasn't a glass pane in the way.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:08am |
re: #239 shiplord kirel
I've never known anyone who had an ape as a pet but some folks down the street had a monkey when I was a kid. Disgusting littile beast, capable of generating a phenomenal amount of urine and feces for its size. Just in case that wasn't repulsive enough, it seemed to masturbate and screech constantly and also had a habit of biting people.
Sounds like a liberal Democrat.
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:43am |
re: #234 Catttt
My mom taught me to like southern cooking, even though I grew up in Colorado. Okra is good - it has a bad rep because some people don't know how to cook it.
You ever get okra pickles? I love them.
Yum.
One of the best pickled products.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:59am |
#95 finally brings us an embeddable video (although it might not be for long!):
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:44:38am |
re: #249 Catttt
On the other hand, there are more things, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
OK, it's a ghost.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:25am |
re: #255 gmsc
a classic, before the days of his bathroom shenanigans.... (i love that Apple has Shenanigans in their spell check dictionary)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:33am |
re: #247 shiplord kirel
Yeah. And I don't appreciate you telling everyone here that I masturbated constantly, you jerk. I took breaks.
///
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:46:12am |
re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth
i'm crying....i'm actually crying...funny sh*t
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:00am |
re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah. And I don't appreciate you telling everyone here that I masturbated constantly, you jerk. I took breaks.
///
I have to admit that you totally got me on the screeching and biting stuff, though. It was a difficult time for me, a time before I discovered the miracle that is hand lotion.
/ouch!
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:26am |
re: #213 wahabicorridor
WOW!
My dad only came back once - to give me hell for yelling at my daughter.
/scared the bejeebers out of me
//a phone call would have been automatic cardiac arrest...
I wish he was paying attention NOW (he's not) because I have a Powerball problem... :-(
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:27am |
re: #257 mrshankly01
a classic, before the days of his bathroom shenanigans.... (i love that Apple has Shenanigans in their spell check dictionary)
It's in Chrome's and Firefox's too otherwise I'd never spell it right.
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:41am |
Having major loading problems. I'll check back l8r. 'nite Lizards.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:52:36am |
re: #263 ArchangelMichael
i had never heard of it until I saw the Dane Cook movie.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:53:35am |
With #93, we return to the embedding curse, but you can still watch it on YouTube. It's U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday!
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:54:48am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:55:53am |
re: #259 mrshankly01
Awesome! Aside from good beer, and great tri-tip, making Lizards laugh is one of my favorite things.
Doesn't always work, I certainly am no comedian. But when it does, I am happy.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:56:03am |
re: #271 littleoldlady
It's...what? Nearly 2 am out there?
Of course, that's when the evening is just getting started!
They don't even start serving alcohol until 2 am! (Of course, they stop serving it at 1:59 am, so nobody really notices...(
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:57:06am |
re: #272 Slumbering Behemoth
well done. the "breaks" is what got me.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:57:09am |
Just 2 more for tonight, and then I'll pick up on tomorrow LNDT with 90 to 81.
#92? LL Cool J's Going Back to Cali!
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:57:50am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:00:04am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:00:47am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
I love it! You're the best.
:)
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:01:17am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
Gracias.
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Bloodnok Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:02:05am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
Why thank you LOL! I know I rarely stay up late enough or get up early enough, but thanks for dishin' out da fruit every day!
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:02:11am |
Our night of great 20th century music videos ends with Prince's 1999 at #91.
Stay tuned until tomorrow for numbers 90 to 81!
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:03:29am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
What a sweetheart! Thank YOU!
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:05:07am |
Posted this in the spinoffs....great July 4 read
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:05:12am |
re: #276 pink freud
PINK! :-)
Yeah, that would finish off any chances of sleeping for me, too. :-/
A couple of weeks ago at 3 am I looked out the front window and saw the light on inside the car. (Hair raises on back of neck.) Usually if a leaf flies by the dog barks her head off, so I didn't think it was a person.
The next morning I went out and found the car all locked up. I NEVER lock the car in the driveway. Turns out my daughter had used it and DID. But the handle had obviously been jimmied with, so it must have been a person.
/not sure if I feel better or worse about that...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:05:29am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:07:09am |
gmsc! :-)
mrshankley! ;-)
Gus! :-)
Bloodnok! :-)
UncleRancher! :-)
Sharmuta! :-)
Slumbering! :-)
/yeah, I noticed that
//probably because we're all (more or less) straight and sober... ;-)
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:07:26am |
Arrrrgggggh. I cannot believe that Danny Gokey was third in the Mr. Tweeter Universe contest last month. Ugh. The good news - Cheeks was eighth. Hahahaha.
Meanwhile, Adam Lambert has been working with Linda Perry, Kara DioGuardi, Sam Sparro, Ryan Tedder, and RedOne. He, Kris Allen, and Allison Iraheta all have record deals. Danny Gokey doesn't. Ha. Ha. Ha.
That French dame is ahead of Paula Abdul ONLY because France is awake right now. We'll catch up.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:09:15am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:10:41am |
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:11:38am |
re: #282 gmsc
Our night of great 20th century music videos ends with Prince's 1999 at #91.
Stay tuned until tomorrow for numbers 90 to 81!
That was a fun New Year's Eve - I still remember that party - vividly. :D I'll bet every party on earth was playing that song.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:12:27am |
re: #286 littleoldlady
I am surprised with my self how matter of fact I am about it all.
Hmm ....creepy stuff with your car at 3 a.m. But I surely do understand that not knowing whether you feel better or worse about it.
After all of this time, I think I've become more comfortable with whatever it is I feel here. It's this three nights in a row thing that's a bit unsettling.
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:13:42am |
re: #293 Catttt
That was a fun New Year's Eve - I still remember that party - vividly. :D I'll bet every party on earth was playing that song.
I don't doubt that was at least partially Prince's motivation in writing it.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:14:19am |
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axegrinder Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:14:45am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:15:02am |
re: #294 pink freud
"It" hasn't done anything to you yet, so I guess it's okay.
/maybe "It" just wants privacy in the bathroom... ?
;-)
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:16:11am |
re: #297 wahabicorridor
wahabi! :-)
I don't do scary, if I can help it. The phone call didn't freak you out?
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Catttt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:18:10am |
re: #295 gmsc
I don't doubt that was at least partially Prince's motivation in writing it.
Totally brilliant guy.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:19:35am |
re: #291 mrshankly01
Time for a drinking song?
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:21:39am |
re: #302 Slumbering Behemoth
too funny. i think the pope has google...
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:24:46am |
re: #300 littleoldlady
wahabi! :-)
I don't do scary, if I can help it. The phone call didn't freak you out?
Oh, yeah, it did. Here's how it went.
ME: Hello?
Voice: Hi
ME: Who is this please?
Voice: Laughter (this is when I recognized her)
ME: O please no
Voice: I told you the last time we spoke not to worry. Stop worrying about me I'm fine. Charles is fine too.
I just broke down in tears and then she was gone.
My sister got the same phone call at the same time. My neice did not.
----------------
Well, the last time we spoke was just before she went into the coma about 6 hrs before she died and she told us (we were all with her) not to worry about her, she was no longer frightened.
Charles is our brother. He was killed it 1978 in a hit and run.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:26:12am |
re: #299 littleoldlady
"Done" anything to me? Oh no ma'am, you don't understand, that is NOT an option here! ;-)
/yes, I have considered that very thing
"You're welcome to the entire house, but this is *my* bathroom!"
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:26:48am |
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gmsc Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:27:53am |
re: #302 Slumbering Behemoth
Time for a drinking song?
I think this drinking song would be more appropriate for July 4th:
;)
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:28:31am |
re: #309 littleoldlady
the part about Charles at the end got me.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:29:50am |
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:31:36am |
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:31:58am |
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:32:41am |
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:32:44am |
re: #313 pink freud
OH GREAT. Now I've got to turn out my lights RIGHT HERE NEXT TO MY BATHROOM and try to get some sleep.
G'nite, gmsc! Sleep well. :-)
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:33:11am |
Ok, I don't want to creep anyone out. Let's just say we all found it very sad except for The Fat Beagle who loved her dearly in life and was thrilled when she visited.
So let's change the subject.
The Brits are pissed off at us. It seems someone hacked the Pentagon and we want his ass extradited. Those Americans are so mean!
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:33:25am |
re: #318 gmsc
Good night, all!
Later GMSC. Watch out for pi in imperial units. Those fractions are almost Newtonian. ;)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:34:11am |
Another drinking song? Maybe? I dunna know, I can't make out a single word the singer is singing.
/I think I heard a few "F" words, though...
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:34:40am |
re: #322 wahabicorridor
Before I try to get some sleep .....did you receive my email?
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:35:33am |
I have to get going... :-(
Talking to a friend whose father is in the hospital (she just lost her mother in December). It's not good, and she needs her hand held...
Good day, ALL!™
{wahabi!
{pink!
{[{LGF}]!
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:35:51am |
re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth
Another drinking song? Maybe? I dunna know, I can't make out a single word the singer is singing.
/I think I heard a few "F" words, though...
[Link: www.potw.org...]
Those are the words to it.
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:36:30am |
re: #326 littleoldlady
Have a good day, littleoldlady. Your friend is lucky to have your hand to hold.
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Jack Burton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:36:52am |
re: #327 ArchangelMichael
To the gmsc post song that is, not yours lol.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:37:13am |
re: #326 littleoldlady
I have to get going... :-(
Talking to a friend whose father is in the hospital (she just lost her mother in December). It's not good, and she needs her hand held...
Good day, ALL!™
{wahabi!
{pink!{[{LGF}]!
Bye LoL.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:37:23am |
HEY! What happened to my "close hugs"!
/grrrr...
{wahabi}
{pink}
{[{LGF]}]}
/thas bettah
//*p00f*!
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:38:24am |
re: #332 rightside
Morning Lizards.
Uh oh, that's my cue. The day shift has arrived!
Good morning, rightside!
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:39:52am |
re: #338 pink freud
Uh oh, that's my cue. The day shift has arrived!
Good morning, rightside!
Later Pink.
Goodbye Pork Pie Hat
Mingus
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:47:28am |
re: #312 Gus 802
I'm picking up what you're putting down. Occam's Razor is a multipurpose tool with many applications.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:47:47am |
Have a good morning all.
Don't let the blue puppets off easy.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:49:28am |
night all. enjoy the holiday if you have one.
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:49:40am |
I see congress is still in feeding frenzy mode. They have now spent the income of my unborn great grandchildren. This country will need to go to bankruptcy court soon.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:51:11am |
re: #342 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm picking up what you're putting down. Occam's Razor is a multipurpose tool with many applications.
Yeah, it's all about realism, physics, science, and biology. Which is not to say that my own experience is not wrought with emotion or the tactile. In the end though it usually does boil down to the hard facts and reality: molecules and atoms.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:56:33am |
re: #345 UncleRancher
I see congress is still in feeding frenzy mode. They have now spent the income of my unborn great grandchildren. This country will need to go to bankruptcy court soon.
It's very important to do so. We must spend money we don't have in order to fix the economy because people spent money they didn't have. I hope I explained it to where it is understandable. Now I'm confused.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 3, 2009 2:57:03am |
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:02:12am |
re: #350 soxfan4life
It's very important to do so. We must spend money we don't have in order to fix the economy because people spent money they didn't have. I hope I explained it to where it is understandable. Now I'm confused.
When you decide it's OK to spend one dollar more than you have, without a clear plan for catch-up, the end point is disaster. Once the (people running the) government adopts the notion that it's ok to spend money for anything but goods and services it needs to do its business, the same end point is locked in. What the hell ever happened to responsibility?
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:03:17am |
re: #352 rightside
morning sox.
What do you think about the Blackhawks signing Hossa to a 12 year 63 million dollar deal .Bruins signed Recchi yesterday, but appear to be ready to deal Phil Kessel and probably let Marc Savard walk. Strange days indeed.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:04:00am |
In possible signal to Iran, Israel sends sub through Suez Canal
By YAAKOV KATZ
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Good morning Iran
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:04:11am |
re: #355 UncleRancher
When you decide it's OK to spend one dollar more than you have, without a clear plan for catch-up, the end point is disaster. Once the (people running the) government adopts the notion that it's ok to spend money for anything but goods and services it needs to do its business, the same end point is locked in. What the hell ever happened to responsibility?
Responsibility doesn't buy reelection.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:04:18am |
re: #356 soxfan4life
Crazy, that was like signing dipietro to that decade long deal!
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:06:04am |
re: #358 soxfan4life
Responsibility doesn't buy reelection.
Once you reject responsibility you are headed for disaster. I do my best to teach my children about money. They sure won't learn it in school. It's a simple formula. If you spend one dollar less then you earn every week you will always have money.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:06:36am |
re: #359 rightside
Crazy, that was like signing dipietro to that decade long deal!
Maybe Betteman ought to step in and stop the deal. No way can 12 year deals be good for the league. The CBA isn't quite as favorable for the owners as footballs is, and the money is nowhere near the same.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:08:33am |
re: #360 UncleRancher
Once you reject responsibility you are headed for disaster. I do my best to teach my children about money. They sure won't learn it in school. It's a simple formula. If you spend one dollar less then you earn every week you will always have money.
But if I can promise 51% of the voters that I will use my power to tax to take your dollar and give it to someone else I will remain in power until I fail to deliver, or at least fail to shift the blame for my lack of performance onto someone else.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:10:15am |
re: #363 rightside
They never last that long though...
If the market supports it, then so be it
After going to Detroit and losing to Pittsburgh, Hossa may well be the NHL version of A-Rod.
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:12:38am |
re: #362 soxfan4life
But if I can promise 51% of the voters that I will use my power to tax to take your dollar and give it to someone else I will remain in power until I fail to deliver, or at least fail to shift the blame for my lack of performance onto someone else.
That's what happened last go round. Everybody I know that voted for the new guy figured they were going to have money falling from the sky. Well it didn't happen. Instead they are losing their jobs. The Robin Hood theory really doesn't work.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:16:36am |
re: #367 UncleRancher
That's what happened last go round. Everybody I know that voted for the new guy figured they were going to have money falling from the sky. Well it didn't happen. Instead they are losing their jobs. The Robin Hood theory really doesn't work.
It doesn't have to work, I only have to be able to sell you that it can work. I know it doesn't work and it is wrong, but how many people still think 0 is the right man for the job? That is what is wrong with America today. We need to relearn the fact that there is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:19:06am |
re: #367 UncleRancher
That's what happened last go round. Everybody I know that voted for the new guy figured they were going to have money falling from the sky. Well it didn't happen. Instead they are losing their jobs. The Robin Hood theory really doesn't work.
Are you serious? I'd love to know how they thought that would happen. I must admit, I haven't yet met anyone who has said this.
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:19:17am |
Must get sleep. Got to mow a piece of pasture so the kids can light their fireworks. That means I got to hook the mower up to the tractor first, and the tractor is already hooked up to the ditcher.
g'nite! It's been fun.
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:23:04am |
re: #370 Flyers1974
Are you serious? I'd love to know how they thought that would happen. I must admit, I haven't yet met anyone who has said this.
Ok, well yes I AM serious. This was the selling point that got the job done. Those who make $250,000 were going to pay for everyone who make less. The only problem now is there is a WHOLE lot of people who USED to make more than 250k, and now they get to carry their losses back 5 years which compounds the problem. Tax revenues down 37% at last report and falling.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:30:36am |
re: #372 UncleRancher
Ok, well yes I AM serious. This was the selling point that got the job done. Those who make $250,000 were going to pay for everyone who make less. The only problem now is there is a WHOLE lot of people who USED to make more than 250k, and now they get to carry their losses back 5 years which compounds the problem. Tax revenues down 37% at last report and falling.
I don't know, I think the selling point was a vague message of change, a pretty standard message when the economy is poor. I just question that many people seriously thought they would see any tangible benefit due to campaign promises re: taxes.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:30:52am |
re: #370 Flyers1974
Are you serious? I'd love to know how they thought that would happen. I must admit, I haven't yet met anyone who has said this.
Well meet Peggy.
And here is another.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:31:16am |
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:33:09am |
re: #374 Flyers1974
I don't know, I think the selling point was a vague message of change, a pretty standard message when the economy is poor. I just question that many people seriously thought they would see any tangible benefit due to campaign promises re: taxes.
He promised 95% of the people prosperity on the backs of the top 5%. He may have sugarcoated it, but that is what he did. Class warfare 101. They did the same thing to the AIG execs who got bonuses.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:35:36am |
re: #379 BignJames
I think you scared him off, Sox.
You posted the same video I did with Peggy Joseph.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:36:13am |
I can see it's gonna be a slow news day. Everyone, it seems, has already started their 4th of July weekend.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:36:16am |
re: #380 soxfan4life
I'm still waiting for him to put gas in my car, and pay my mortgage.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:37:29am |
re: #375 soxfan4life
There are always going to be freaks out there. I doubt they are representitive of the average Obama voter. At least not as far as I can tell from my neighbors, etc... . Election after election, presidential candidates make all sorts of promises regarding taxes. I just don't think many people get excited over proposed tax policy, at least not regular voters.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:38:07am |
re: #382 rightside
I'm still waiting for him to put gas in my car, and pay my mortgage.
You can blame me. Everyone here in MA told me if I voted for John McCain this would happen, and I voted for John McCain and it did happen, my 1 little vote caused all of this.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:38:15am |
re: #382 rightside
I'm still waiting for him to put gas in my car, and pay my mortgage.
He knows you didn't vote for him. You and I are both on the "shit" list.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:38:17am |
re: #382 rightside
I'm still waiting for him to put gas in my car, and pay my mortgage.
It's at the station up the street, meet me there.....make sure to wait fo me.....any minute now.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:40:09am |
re: #383 Flyers1974
There are always going to be freaks out there. I doubt they are representitive of the average Obama voter. At least not as far as I can tell from my neighbors, etc... . Election after election, presidential candidates make all sorts of promises regarding taxes. I just don't think many people get excited over proposed tax policy, at least not regular voters.
I hope they are happy with the hatchet job cap and trade and the coming inflation due to the stimuless bill that this group is inflicting on us. How much longer can he dance around taking responsibility?
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:40:32am |
re: #383 Flyers1974
There are always going to be freaks out there. I doubt they are representitive of the average Obama voter. At least not as far as I can tell from my neighbors, etc... . Election after election, presidential candidates make all sorts of promises regarding taxes. I just don't think many people get excited over proposed tax policy, at least not regular voters.
I don't know how I can prove it, but I'd bet 50% of them are.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:41:27am |
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:42:25am |
re: #390 soxfan4life
true...I am off today. That's why I don't want to get wound up so early.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:43:57am |
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has issued an informal invitation to President Barack Obama to visit Damascus for talks, in a sign that relations between the two countries may gradually be thawing.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Is their any thug this administration doesn't like? What a disgrace.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:44:32am |
re: #391 rightside
true...I am off today. That's why I don't want to get wound up so early.
I started at 6:00 AM and should be outa here by 10:30 AM.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:46:06am |
re: #393 Nevergiveup
excellent! Enjoy your holiday, and don't forget the lobster.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:47:03am |
re: #383 Flyers1974
There are always going to be freaks out there. I doubt they are representitive of the average Obama voter. At least not as far as I can tell from my neighbors, etc... . Election after election, presidential candidates make all sorts of promises regarding taxes. I just don't think many people get excited over proposed tax policy, at least not regular voters.
I assume that would be the "gimme gimme, where's mine? what's in it for me?" political class.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:47:24am |
re: #387 rightside
It's just too early to go on a rant.
I agree with that... All I'm saying is that I think most Obama voters voted for a vague notion of change - not exactly shocking after two terms of the other party. I think people instinctively realized that no president has the power to single handedly "bring prosperity."
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:49:50am |
re: #398 Flyers1974
Vague notion of change?.....That's pretty much admitting they're stupid....change ain't always for the better.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:51:16am |
re: #398 Flyers1974
That may be, but they were warned, that he was full of shit. Yes politicians make promises they don't keep, but they don't fundamentally change the country. Ruining the economy, and returning wealth to it's "rightful owners" i.e. the poor, is not change they voted for, despite being warned that's what would happen.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:51:58am |
re: #397 BignJames
I assume that would be the "gimme gimme, where's mine? what's in it for me?" political class.
That's an awful lot of people looking for a handout and not a small amount of those, I'd bet, that voted for Bush at least once. I have more faith in people than to think most thought they'd be getting a handout.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:52:46am |
re: #395 rightside
excellent! Enjoy your holiday, and don't forget the lobster.
Well not sure about the lobster. I'm going on active duty for 10 days.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:53:40am |
re: #398 Flyers1974
I agree with that... All I'm saying is that I think most Obama voters voted for a vague notion of change - not exactly shocking after two terms of the other party. I think people instinctively realized that no president has the power to single handedly "bring prosperity."
I will admit he hasn't wrought this "change" single-handedly.....he has many like minded fools in congress abetting him.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:53:49am |
re: #398 Flyers1974
I agree with that... All I'm saying is that I think most Obama voters voted for a vague notion of change - not exactly shocking after two terms of the other party. I think people instinctively realized that no president has the power to single handedly "bring prosperity."
Well if this is the case then no President has the power to single handedly destroy the economy either, yet President Obama gives us our daily dose of blame President Bush. He can't have it both ways.
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Ateam Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:53:54am |
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:54:55am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:55:05am |
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:55:05am |
re: #399 BignJames
Vague notion of change?.....That's pretty much admitting they're stupid....change ain't always for the better.
No, not stupid, politically ignorant. And this is nothing new. Don't Both parties use (and have used) trite slogans to get people who aren't paying attention?
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:57:06am |
re: #410 Flyers1974
No, not stupid, politically ignorant. And this is nothing new. Don't Both parties use (and have used) trite slogans to get people who aren't paying attention?
If you're not paying attention who do you vote for? pick a lever, any lever?
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:57:15am |
re: #410 Flyers1974
No, not stupid, politically ignorant. And this is nothing new. Don't Both parties use (and have used) trite slogans to get people who aren't paying attention?
Using trite slogans is not the same as having the media actively campaigning for you. Both parties don't get that.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 3:57:21am |
re: #405 soxfan4life
Well if this is the case then no President has the power to single handedly destroy the economy either, yet President Obama gives us our daily dose of blame President Bush. He can't have it both ways.
I agree completely. I think any president's ability to effect the economy is very over-rated. For myself, I like Obama, but I don't believe every bit of political rhetoric that comes out of his mouth.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:00:31am |
re: #413 Flyers1974
I agree completely. I think any president's ability to effect the economy is very over-rated. For myself, I like Obama, but I don't believe every bit of political rhetoric that comes out of his mouth.
So what is it you like about Obama? His ability to shift blame to everyone but his own? His complete willingness to apologize non-stop for America's greatness? Or his wonderous speaking teleprompter reading ability?
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:02:09am |
re: #401 Flyers1974
That's an awful lot of people looking for a handout and not a small amount of those, I'd bet, that voted for Bush at least once. I have more faith in people than to think most thought they'd be getting a handout.
38% of people in this country pay no income tax. Under Obama's tax plan, that he campaigned on, that # would rise to 50%. When the majority can vote themselves wealth at the expense of the minority, democracy is dead.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:02:16am |
re: #411 BignJames
If you're not paying attention who do you vote for? pick a lever, any lever?
I don't think that, I do think some people vote based on the last negative ad they saw, or based on their family traditions, or who they think is a "nicer guy." I'd say, that since no single person can change an election by his vote, many people don't take it seriously - if you make a mistake, who cares, its not going to matter. I guess many people have that attitude. No risk in ONE PERSON being ignorant.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:04:22am |
re: #416 Flyers1974
I don't think that, I do think some people vote based on the last negative ad they saw, or based on their family traditions, or who they think is a "nicer guy." I'd say, that since no single person can change an election by his vote, many people don't take it seriously - if you make a mistake, who cares, its not going to matter. I guess many people have that attitude. No risk in ONE PERSON being ignorant.
Well then, I think they're stupid.
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:10:23am |
re: #416 Flyers1974
I don't think that, I do think some people vote based on the last negative ad they saw, or based on their family traditions, or who they think is a "nicer guy." I'd say, that since no single person can change an election by his vote, many people don't take it seriously - if you make a mistake, who cares, its not going to matter. I guess many people have that attitude. No risk in ONE PERSON being ignorant.
BTW I'm not interested in a "nice guy" I want a leader.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:10:33am |
re: #399 BignJames
Vague notion of change?.....That's pretty much admitting they're stupid....change ain't always for the better.
Maybe they were real well informed on his policies like these voters.
Or they were just super smart like these voters.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:10:57am |
re: #414 soxfan4life
So what is it you like about Obama? His ability to shift blame to everyone but his own? His complete willingness to apologize non-stop for America's greatness? Or his wonderous
speakingteleprompter reading ability?
I vote based on ideology, the teleprompter stuff never bothered me, and If I were a Republican, the petty stuff said about Bush wouldn't have bothered me either. I think his foreign policy has been decent, no obvious sucesses nor blunders in my opinion. I'd say much of what he's done there isn't that different from what Bush would have done. I'm basiclly a liberal Democrat with a few exceptions, i.e. I'm pro-gun, anti-affirmative action (today at least, I think it was needed in the 70's.) I was never in love with Barack, I was for Clinton. I've got no problem with what he's done so far, and I'm one of those who believe the bailouts, etc... were his response to the housing/credit problems and not a true indicator of where he wants to go. I don't think most of the American people want to go there (socialism) either. Not me at least.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:12:24am |
re: #418 BignJames
BTW I'm not interested in a "nice guy" I want a leader.
Me neither, I was giving my opinion as to how some people make there decisions. A president being a "nice guy" isn't helping me any.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:13:29am |
Morning folks...back from a long night in the salt mines....Hope everyone is Ok
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:13:30am |
re: #420 Flyers1974
I vote based on ideology, the teleprompter stuff never bothered me, and If I were a Republican, the petty stuff said about Bush wouldn't have bothered me either. I think his foreign policy has been decent, no obvious sucesses nor blunders in my opinion. I'd say much of what he's done there isn't that different from what Bush would have done. I'm basiclly a liberal Democrat with a few exceptions, i.e. I'm pro-gun, anti-affirmative action (today at least, I think it was needed in the 70's.) I was never in love with Barack, I was for Clinton. I've got no problem with what he's done so far, and I'm one of those who believe the bailouts, etc... were his response to the housing/credit problems and not a true indicator of where he wants to go. I don't think most of the American people want to go there (socialism) either. Not me at least.
Uhhh, dude....you're contradicting yourself.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:14:55am |
re: #423 BignJames
No, really I had no idea he was a communist.////////
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:15:55am |
re: #422 srb1976
Morning folks...back from a long night in the salt mines....Hope everyone is Ok
Good Morning!
Hope today finds you well
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:16:12am |
re: #424 soxfan4life
No, really I had no idea he was a communist.////////
Well, if all you saw was the evening news...that might be true....sad, but true
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:18:00am |
re: #425 HoosierHoops
Good Morning!
Hope today finds you well
Yep = ) had a great night at work (busy, busy) and now I'm waiting for the oven to warm up for some cinnamon rolls (pilsbury, but still good)
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:20:21am |
re: #428 srb1976
Yep = ) had a great night at work (busy, busy) and now I'm waiting for the oven to warm up for some cinnamon rolls (pilsbury, but still good)
Mmmmmmm warm rolls! is there anything better in the morning?
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:20:30am |
re: #423 BignJames
How so? I think I miss your meaning. If you're saying that Obama is a socialist, I disagree. I think he is a clinton-type Democrat for the most part. I don't think he makes any of those moves (or could have made those moves) but for the economic situation. Obviously reasonable people disagree with his moves, but I don't think it is accurate to call him a socialist.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:21:31am |
re: #429 HoosierHoops
Mmmmmmm warm rolls! is there anything better in the morning?
The only thing better would be having someone else make them = )
(but better half and the kids will be thrilled when they get up)
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3 wood Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:22:03am |
Good morning.
Yesterday the Dow dropped 2.6% and the S&P 500 dropped 2.9% on news of increasing unemployment. The pace of destroyed jobs picked up month to month.
This was the biggest drop in the market on the last trading day before the 4th of July in 5 decades. Just think about that, half a century, 50 years. The Dem's are in charge of everything, Bush is gone, the Dem's have it all their way, and yet we had this biggest drop in 5 decades.
The evidence is becoming undeniable to all but the delusional that Obama's economic policies have been a failure.
Job losses turn up heat on Obama
Thursday's worse-than-expected jobs report turned up the heat on the still-popular president to put more Americans back to work. Unemployment hit a 26-year high of 9.5% in June, the Labor Department reported, and nonfarm payrolls shrank by 467,000, much higher than anticipated.
The numbers had Republicans salivating, left Democrats disappointed, and fueled the debate about whether a second stimulus -- or something else -- is needed to help.
Yep that's right, now talk of a second stimulus, to double down on the deficit damage to the economy, is starting to circulate.
So how bad are the job losses?
Indeed, Obama hasn't seen a month of job gains yet. Since he took office at the end of January, total job losses number 2.6 million.
This is the same guy who said he was going to create/save 2, no, 3 million jobs. He's now 5.6 million jobs below that and counting.
And yet they still want to nationalize health care and adopt Cap and Trade.
At some point the light may dawn on these socialists that government does not create economic growth, private business does.
I wonder how long it will take for the voters to wake up?
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:23:03am |
re: #430 Flyers1974
How so? I think I miss your meaning. If you're saying that Obama is a socialist, I disagree. I think he is a clinton-type Democrat for the most part. I don't think he makes any of those moves (or could have made those moves) but for the economic situation. Obviously reasonable people disagree with his moves, but I don't think it is accurate to call him a socialist.
So his comments to Joe the plumber were typical of someone not a socialist or communist?
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:23:58am |
re: #430 Flyers1974
How so? I think I miss your meaning. If you're saying that Obama is a socialist, I disagree. I think he is a clinton-type Democrat for the most part. I don't think he makes any of those moves (or could have made those moves) but for the economic situation. Obviously reasonable people disagree with his moves, but I don't think it is accurate to call him a socialist.
For your edification....I'm a liberal.......Liberal Democrats are by definition socialists. I believe in trurh in advertising.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:25:14am |
re: #432 3 wood
Good morning.
Yesterday the Dow dropped 2.6% and the S&P 500 dropped 2.9% on news of increasing unemployment. The pace of destroyed jobs picked up month to month.
This was the biggest drop in the market on the last trading day before the 4th of July in 5 decades. Just think about that, half a century, 50 years. The Dem's are in charge of everything, Bush is gone, the Dem's have it all their way, and yet we had this biggest drop in 5 decades.
The evidence is becoming undeniable to all but the delusional that Obama's economic policies have been a failure.
Job losses turn up heat on Obama
This is the same guy who said he was going to create/save 2, no, 3 million jobs. He's now 5.6 million jobs below that and counting.
And yet they still want to nationalize health care and adopt Cap and Trade.
At some point the light may dawn on these socialists that government does not create economic growth, private business does.
I wonder how long it will take for the voters to wake up?
Maybe avanti or iceweasel can explain just how wrong you really are.//////
Good morning hope you are able to enjoy your holiday weekend.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:26:35am |
re: #433 soxfan4life
So his comments to Joe the plumber were typical of someone not a socialist or communist?
Or even, what in his background (anything) says to you "this guy is a moderate", or even "this guy is not a socialist"
What on his resume, in his campaign promises, his associations, anything...tells you he's not a socialist?
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:28:00am |
re: #436 srb1976
Or even, what in his background (anything) says to you "this guy is a moderate", or even "this guy is not a socialist"
What on his resume, in his campaign promises, his associations, anything...tells you he's not a socialist?
Well the media and the democrats all told us he wasn't nearly as liberal as his voting record indicates. They wouldn't lie to us now would they?
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BignJames Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:29:32am |
Ok Lizards, hold down the fort...have a great 4th.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:30:28am |
re: #400 rightside
That may be, but they were warned, that he was full of shit. Yes politicians make promises they don't keep, but they don't fundamentally change the country. Ruining the economy, and returning wealth to it's "rightful owners" i.e. the poor, is not change they voted for, despite being warned that's what would happen.
If you are referring to the housing "crisis" and credit crisis, I don't agree that Obama caused these. If you are referring to the stimulus and bailouts, obviously that is Obama's game. However, what would have happened without the stimulus/bailouts? I'm not an economist by any stretch, but I've heard enough to believe there is at least some credibility to the idea that without them, things would be much much worse. I'm certainly open to hearing arguments as to why they weren't necessary. As far as redistribution of wealth, are you talking about the tax increase?
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3 wood Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:30:31am |
re: #435 soxfan4life
Maybe avanti or iceweasel can explain just how wrong you really are.//////
Good morning hope you are able to enjoy your holiday weekend.
Yes, and as Occasional Reader said, then they will explain jungle warfare tactics to realwest.
I'm planning on having a great weekend and I hope you do too.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:32:07am |
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3 wood Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:34:43am |
re: #441 Flyers1974
However, what would have happened without the stimulus/bailouts? I'm not an economist by any stretch, but I've heard enough to believe there is at least some credibility to the idea that without them, things would be much much worse.
I am an economist.
Keeping the banking industry from melting down was needed, with out that it was show over. That was done under Paulson, Bernanke and Bush.
The rest of this is inflationary and long term damaging to the economy.
But I don't think Obama is worried about this, he is all about government control of the means of production.
Got to run.
Later.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:35:16am |
Kind of a slow morning huh? Guess most folks get to sleep in today....
(I don't get the holiday off, but I do get my holiday pay....so that's ok)
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:35:48am |
re: #433 soxfan4life
So his comments to Joe the plumber were typical of someone not a socialist or communist?
I'd say his comments had nothing whatsoever to do with communism. As far as socialism, nothing in his comments seemed to me to indicate nationalization of businesses, utilities, etc... . His comments did seem wishy-washy and without much meaning.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:38:46am |
re: #441 Flyers1974
No, I was not referring to those. Bush called for tighter regulation of fanny/freddie, along with mccain, but the dems said there was nothing wrong with those entities. The fact that the dems caused them is indisputable now.
I'll let 3 wood chime in if he will, he is an economist.
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:39:07am |
Blargh.
Mornin Lizardim.
Normally I love mornings, but today? man I woke up on the grumpy side and got hit with the pissed-off stick for some reason.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:40:14am |
re: #451 Mithrax
Blargh.
Mornin Lizardim.
Normally I love mornings, but today? man I woke up on the grumpy side and got hit with the pissed-off stick for some reason.
morning...gotta watch getting hit with sticks first thing in the morning...makes the whole day suck = )
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:42:47am |
re: #453 rightside
he already has. Thanks 3 wood.
Whatever happened to all those prize winning economists who backed 0's plan to ruin the country? Never hear about them anymore.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:45:14am |
re: #454 soxfan4life
Whatever happened to all those prize winning economists who backed 0's plan to ruin the country? Never hear about them anymore.
My guess would be that they cashed the checks and left town....like any con artist at the end of a scam
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:45:46am |
re: #450 rightside
No, I was not referring to those. Bush called for tighter regulation of fanny/freddie, along with mccain, but the dems said there was nothing wrong with those entities. The fact that the dems caused them is indisputable now.
I'll let 3 wood chime in if he will, he is an economist.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:46:29am |
re: #454 soxfan4life
Their sitting on the board at the Fed, and in the Treasury dept.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:47:31am |
re: #456 Cannadian Club Akbar
Thanks...I posted that the other day in here. Oh no, here we go again. The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:48:01am |
re: #457 rightside
Their sitting on the board at the Fed, and in the Treasury dept.
Given Turbotax Timmy's job performance, having AIG on a resume will get you hired faster than having the Treasury on it.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:49:36am |
re: #458 rightside
Thanks...I posted that the other day in here. Oh no, here we go again. The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.
Maybe Dodd will come out and support it too. I mean such financial wizards as Frank and Dodd can't be wrong can they?
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:51:39am |
Hey 3wood you're an economist and obviously a golfer, how much would it cost the US to buy a mulligan on this last election?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:53:16am |
On CBS (not my TV) they just had a report showing a regular hot dog and tater salad, etc., and how bad it is. Then they showed a low cal substitute. Guessing they had soy dogs. I fucking hate the food police. They always have to butt in on the 4th, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:54:03am |
re: #460 soxfan4life
What pisses me off, is they force those who produce to give our hard earned money, and then waste it on useless programs. greasy joe swore up and down if any tarp or stimulus money were being misused, call him directly, he'll fix it. Then he was told billions are being wasted and outright stolen, and his reply? Well, we can't track it all.
"Government is not part of the problem, government is the problem."
- Ronaldus Magnus
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:55:15am |
re: #463 rightside
What pisses me off, is they force those who produce to give our hard earned money, and then waste it on useless programs. greasy joe swore up and down if any tarp or stimulus money were being misused, call him directly, he'll fix it. Then he was told billions are being wasted and outright stolen, and his reply? Well, we can't track it all.
"Government is not part of the problem, government is the problem."
- Ronaldus Magnus
No truer words have ever been spoken.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:58:41am |
re: #462 Cannadian Club Akbar
On CBS (not my TV) they just had a report showing a regular hot dog and tater salad, etc., and how bad it is. Then they showed a low cal substitute. Guessing they had soy dogs. I fucking hate the food police. They always have to butt in on the 4th, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
LOL
I may be the worst food nazi here...But I would never put that on anybody else...I could never eat a hot dog cause I'd puke...But you can eat as many of them as you wish...
Regards....
/I love food threads BTW....
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:00:16am |
re: #465 HoosierHoops
LOL
I may be the worst food nazi here...But I would never put that on anybody else...I could never eat a hot dog cause I'd puke...But you can eat as many of them as you wish...
Regards....
/I love food threads BTW....
Maybe no hot dogs...but ribs are ok right? (It's just not Independence Day without ribs....I'm sure the founding fathers would agree) = )
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:02:04am |
re: #465 HoosierHoops
LOL
I may be the worst food nazi here...But I would never put that on anybody else...I could never eat a hot dog cause I'd puke...But you can eat as many of them as you wish...
Regards....
/I love food threads BTW....
Saw a show the other night on Food Network or something else on how they make bologna. I may never eat it again. But then again, if I do, it is redneck style to top it with tater chips.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:06:30am |
re: #462 Cannadian Club Akbar
On CBS (not my TV) they just had a report showing a regular hot dog and tater salad, etc., and how bad it is. Then they showed a low cal substitute. Guessing they had soy dogs. I fucking hate the food police. They always have to butt in on the 4th, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
That's annoying. I know these things are bad for us, but not if we only eat them on the Fourth. I'd rather see more info being put out at other times about food and health, not this annoying crap on a holiday.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:08:34am |
re: #468 Cannadian Club Akbar
Saw a show the other night on Food Network or something else on how they make bologna. I may never eat it again. But then again, if I do, it is redneck style to top it with tater chips.
I was raised different... I would never bad mouth anybody that ate anything they want... It's just the way I am...
You can make fun of me..which a lot of people tease the Hoopster..I ordered mushrooms on my first date with my wife..
I am just a picky eater...
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:09:40am |
re: #469 iceweasel
Good morning friend...
Hope today finds you well
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:10:21am |
re: #470 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! I remember you telling that story about your first date and the mushrooms! It was cute!
BTW everyone-- are commentators at GateWay Pundit normally sane? Anyone know?
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:13:08am |
re: #472 iceweasel
People actually read comments on other sites? = )
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:13:25am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:16:24am |
re: #473 srb1976
People actually read comments on other sites? = )
Hee.....sometimes other blogs write posts about comments on other sites, when warranted. A blog I read found a mess o'crazy over there; I'm wondering if it's typical of GateWay Pundit or if they just got invaded by trolls that day.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:16:35am |
re: #470 HoosierHoops
I was raised different... I would never bad mouth anybody that ate anything they want... It's just the way I am...
You can make fun of me..which a lot of people tease the Hoopster..I ordered mushrooms on my first date with my wife..
I am just a picky eater...
One of my first dates with Mrs Revo I bought a large (4-4.5") plastic mushroom and had the florist make it into a corsage... She eventually married me anyway- 42+ years ago!
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:16:58am |
Can't...resist...cuteness....need....more.....sugar.
Good morning all. Last work day before the weekend and I am pumped looking toward it.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:17:04am |
re: #462 Cannadian Club Akbar
On CBS (not my TV) they just had a report showing a regular hot dog and tater salad, etc., and how bad it is. Then they showed a low cal substitute. Guessing they had soy dogs. I fucking hate the food police. They always have to butt in on the 4th, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
What do you think they would say about this?
[Link: www.bbqaddicts.com...]
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:17:48am |
re: #472 iceweasel
Hey Hoops! I remember you telling that story about your first date and the mushrooms! It was cute!
BTW everyone-- are commentators at GateWay Pundit normally sane? Anyone know?
Thanks Ice...
I came here from justoneminute blog....I read 2 blogs...That's it..except when I follow links from here... That's it....
Oh wait...There is a stalker blog that I read when Lizards tell me I'm being quoted and talked about....Pretty lame when people talk about me....
I don't bring much to the blogging table
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:17:55am |
Well I'm here for a while, His Imperial Majesty, the cat, has decided to snuggle down in my lap.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:18:09am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:21:18am |
re: #479 HoosierHoops
I don't bring much to the blogging table
You bring yourself, and what more could anyone ask for or want?
(i keep trying to make a little line of hearts here, but Charles has wisely fixed it so we can't use symbols...)
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:23:30am |
re: #482 iceweasel
You bring yourself, and what more could anyone ask for or want?
(i keep trying to make a little line of hearts here, but Charles has wisely fixed it so we can't use symbols...)
You are very kind....Miss Trixie uses symbols all the time..She can sing like an Angel
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:26:27am |
re: #478 soxfan4life
What do you think they would say about this?
[Link: www.bbqaddicts.com...]
I see you and raise. ;)
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:27:43am |
re: #482 iceweasel
There's a link just below the comment box that shows how to use special characters ↓ ↓ ↓ ™
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:28:04am |
re: #482 iceweasel
You bring yourself, and what more could anyone ask for or want?
(i keep trying to make a little line of hearts here, but Charles has wisely fixed it so we can't use symbols...)
♥♥♥
hold down alt and press 3 on the number pad.
♪♫♪
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:28:48am |
re: #478 soxfan4life
What do you think they would say about this?
[Link: www.bbqaddicts.com...]
While I haven't had many people tell me what I should and shouldn't eat, I usually end the conversation with, " No, you shouldn't eat it." And when cooking, BBQing or whatever, I generally won't alter my style, unless it is for kiddies.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:29:03am |
This is weird...
A local teacher accidentally put pornography into a DVD that was meant to be filled with school memories from the past year, and nobody caught the error until after it was sent home, shocking parents and students alike.
Parents of students who attend Isabelle Jackson Elementary said that the woman is a good teacher, but just made a mistake that may become the most embarrassing moment of their life.
The offending DVD starts with a menu screen that displays various school trips and functions, and when you click on one of them, you see kids in a classroom sharing stories. They start clapping, then the video suddenly cuts to sex.
"It goes from my son, straight to her on the couch," said 'Joe,' who saw the video along with his son and did not wish to be identified. "My son's reaction was, 'Dad, is that Ms. Defanti?'"
"We were up till midnight doing the 'birds and the bees,'" he added.
The person in the video turned out to be Isabelle Jackson Elementary fifth grade teacher Crystal Defanti.
"All she could say was that it was a horrible mix up," Joe said.
The teacher called his home the day after his child got the DVD, crying hysterically, profusely apologizing and asking the man and his wife to call every parent they knew to stop their kids from seeing the DVD too.
You have to wonder how someone could be technologically clueless enough to make that kind of mixup. I almost wonder whether an angry ex 'helped' her make the DVDs.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:29:51am |
re: #462 Cannadian Club Akbar
Screw the food police. I eat what I want, and most of the time I stick to healthy food. I'm putting some babyback ribs in the smoker in a couple of hours.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:30:49am |
♥U╒♥♥♥!M5M5§╒♥♥♣◘•○♠♥☻☺♦• I never knew that...
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:31:35am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:32:18am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:32:43am |
re: #492 Mithrax
I know, here I am a little hungover and I got the grease munchies fierce.
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:33:25am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:33:25am |
re: #490 Mad Al-Jaffee
Screw the food police. I eat what I want, and most of the time I stick to healthy food. I'm putting some babyback ribs in the smoker in a couple of hours.
Baby Backs are awesome. Ever serve hot apples on the side?
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:33:40am |
re: #494 BlueCanuck
I know, here I am a little hungover and I got the grease munchies fierce.
Grease and carbs, best hangover fix.
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:34:31am |
re: #494 BlueCanuck
I know, here I am a little hungover and I got the grease munchies fierce.
Oooh. They have a picture of a Strasburg pie. The recipie I have for it calls for a pound and a half of fois gras.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:36:11am |
And of course this is wrong on so many levels.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:36:55am |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:36:58am |
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:37:18am |
re: #450 rightside
No, I was not referring to those. Bush called for tighter regulation of fanny/freddie, along with mccain, but the dems said there was nothing wrong with those entities. The fact that the dems caused them is indisputable now.
I'll let 3 wood chime in if he will, he is an economist.
True and true. And I'd add that it was Dem politicians who pressured Fannie/Freddie, etc... to lower their standards so that unqualified people could obtain a mortgage. But do these facts mean that the Dems alone caused the crisis or were even a primary cause? Where does the greed of the bankers and investors and mortgage brokers fit into the equation? Not to mention homebuyers, and by no means just "poor" homebuyers, i.e., yuppies who bought their McMansions without knowing how they would pay their mortgage.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:39:00am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:39:31am |
re: #501 Nevergiveup
Looks good to me. Pass the beer and mustard.
Don't make me link the smutto video. Some cultural foods should not be fused.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:40:24am |
re: #503 Cannadian Club Akbar
Personally I like spam, especially fried in a egg sandwich. But it has to be fried, no other way will do.
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:41:04am |
re: #505 BlueCanuck
Personally I like spam, especially fried in a egg sandwich. But it has to be fried, no other way will do.
From that site you linked, I bring you baconhenge
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:41:21am |
Prosecutors: Demjanjuk fit to stand trial
Munich prosecutors expect to file formal charges against 89-year-old later this month on suspicion of being an accessory to murder at Nazi death camp
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
I guess he will not be eating steak this 4th of July? GOOD!
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:42:05am |
re: #506 Mithrax
From that site you linked, I bring you baconhenge
Let Baconhenge be the site of your seasonal celebration! Let bacon stand in for the sacrificed Year King, French toast for the Grain Goddess, the eggs in the frittata for the Cosmic Egg, and the vegetables for the bountiful Earth on which we live.
Awesome.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:42:06am |
re: #505 BlueCanuck
Personally I like spam, especially fried in a egg sandwich. But it has to be fried, no other way will do.
Spam is pretty much on my "not edible" list...and aside from certain fish products (tuna for one) I tend to be leery of any meat that comes in a can....snobbish I know, but there it is = )
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:43:01am |
re: #497 iceweasel
Grease and carbs, best hangover fix.
True story.. I had a hang over once and bought a hamburger from a drive through.. (Rally's)
I got home..Took a bite..started chewing
Gut: You are not fucking eating this are you?
Me: Kindof tastes ok
Gut: I've gone wacko...You like that?
Me: What is going on? What are you doing? Jumping jacks?
Gut: How is the Burger?
Me: Running to bathroom
Gut: How do you like me now?
Me: So you think yogurt and chocolate milk would have helped?
Gut: What do you think genius?
Me: pajrgjjlvejfoejoefonvdnvkrihgia
Gut: Don't fuck with me again hoopster.....
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:43:05am |
re: #505 BlueCanuck
Personally I like spam, especially fried in a egg sandwich. But it has to be fried, no other way will do.
Have some spam then.
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lincolntf Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:43:06am |
Morning all.
Wimbledon Men's semis on ESPN2 now. Federer v. Haas is in the first set, after which will be the Andy Roddick v. Andy Murray match that has everyone all excited. Go Andy!
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:43:27am |
re: #509 srb1976
Spam is pretty much on my "not edible" list...and aside from certain fish products (tuna for one) I tend to be leery of any meat that comes in a can....snobbish I know, but there it is = )
Ever been stoned and hungry? ( not that I ever was )
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:43:59am |
re: #509 srb1976
I know what you mean. I prefer fresh myself, or frozen at the least. But for those moments of pure nostalgia, it's spam, spam, spam, eggs, and spam. ;)
/would link the clip if I could get youtube here at work.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:45:29am |
re: #513 Nevergiveup
Ever been stoned and hungry? ( not that I ever was )
Yes...and my stoner food of choice was Nacho Cheese doritos with bean dip....not much better than spam, I'll grant you
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:45:58am |
re: #510 HoosierHoops
Oh Hoops! I feel so bad for you but I laughed out loud!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:46:15am |
re: #513 Nevergiveup
Ever been stoned and hungry? ( not that I ever was )
Mickey's Mini Chocolate doughnuts and IBC Rootbeer. So I've heard...
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:46:22am |
re: #502 Flyers1974
Institution lenders were forced to make those loans, under threat of fines. Congress caused it, I don't care which side of the aisle. It started as the CRA during carter, and was pimped during clinton.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:46:23am |
re: #514 BlueCanuck
If it's the Monty Python one...you don't have to = )
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:46:43am |
re: #489 iceweasel
This is weird...
You have to wonder how someone could be technologically clueless enough to make that kind of mixup.
It's not hard. School photographs, yearbook typesetting, film production and computer programming all used to be handled by professionals. The proliferation of software has put all these tasks in the hands of complete amateurs. They may be able to burn a DVD by clicking the "OK" button, but that doesn't make them experts at what they're doing - things like proofreading, action checking - and content evaluation - often get skipped.
Ms. Defanti has now learned a valuable lesson on the importance of integration testing, and is almost certainly never going to make a similar mistake again.
Although her first fumbling attempt will surely wind up on the Internet, where it will live forever.
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:47:46am |
re: #520 SixDegrees
Although her first fumbling attempt will surely wind up on the Internet, where it will live forever.
Only if she's worth watching.
I mean that Tonya Harding sex tape sure lasted a long time out there didn't it :P
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:48:32am |
re: #512 lincolntf
Morning all.
Wimbledon Men's semis on ESPN2 now. Federer v. Haas is in the first set, after which will be the Andy Roddick v. Andy Murray match that has everyone all excited. Go Andy!
Dear President Obama
If you get Congress to pass a law to outlaw Tennis forever I promise to vote for you next time....
And for pete's sake..Put some teeth in the law.... Like sending people that play to Gitmo or something....
Think of the children!
/
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:50:25am |
re: #523 HoosierHoops
Dear President Obama
If you get Congress to pass a law to outlaw Tennis forever I promise to vote for you next time....
And for pete's sake..Put some teeth in the law.... Like sending people that play to Gitmo or something....
Think of the children!
/
Amen brother. I suffered through tennis lessons when I was a kid.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:50:51am |
re: #523 HoosierHoops
Dear President Obama
If you get Congress to pass a law to outlaw Tennis forever I promise to vote for you next time....
And for pete's sake..Put some teeth in the law.... Like sending people that play to Gitmo or something....
Think of the children!
/
Forget tennis outlaw soccer. Thus freeing the county of soccer Mom's.
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Mithrax Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:51:27am |
re: #525 soxfan4life
Forget tennis outlaw soccer. Thus freeing the county of soccer Mom's.
Hey now, soccer moms are people too.....and good looking to boot! rawr!
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:51:57am |
re: #523 HoosierHoops
Careful Hoops...much as I agree with you, remember, there are people out there who feel the same way about basketball.....I lived in Iowa long enough to meet several = )
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:52:08am |
re: #525 soxfan4life
Forget tennis outlaw soccer. Thus freeing the county of soccer Mom's.
Only thing worse then a soccer Mom is a hockey Dad. Good fights in the stands though. :)
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:53:07am |
Hoopster- My #1 son just moved his family to Zionsville (SP?) north of Indianapolis. Is this an area you know at all? What I'd love is some sort of local thing- restaurant known locally for great ______, unusal building, something not known outside the area that I can casually drop in when talking to him. He knows I've never been south of Gary, and it would freak him out.
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soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:54:21am |
re: #528 BlueCanuck
Only thing worse then a soccer Mom is a hockey Dad. Good fights in the stands though. :)
Not here in MA. Hockey Dad killed the coach over practice.
[Link: www.pbs.org...]
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:54:35am |
re: #525 soxfan4life
Forget tennis outlaw soccer. Thus freeing the county of soccer Mom's.
AMEN! If it doesn't need a motor, or helmets, hoops or hormones it's probably unAmerican!
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:54:41am |
re: #520 SixDegrees
I don't think she should be fired but if I were her, I'd look for a job in like Antarctica or something.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:55:07am |
re: #520 SixDegrees
It's not hard. School photographs, yearbook typesetting, film production and computer programming all used to be handled by professionals. The proliferation of software has put all these tasks in the hands of complete amateurs. They may be able to burn a DVD by clicking the "OK" button, but that doesn't make them experts at what they're doing - things like proofreading, action checking - and content evaluation - often get skipped.
Ms. Defanti has now learned a valuable lesson on the importance of integration testing, and is almost certainly never going to make a similar mistake again.
Although her first fumbling attempt will surely wind up on the Internet, where it will live forever.
You're completely right, of course. I also had the same thought that she'd already be on the Internet for sure.
I guess my confusion is more basic: if you were the sort of person who records yourself having sex, wouldn't you keep all of that far, far away from your work computer or any other device you use for work? If you did that you wouldn't even need to worry about all the amateur mistakes you list, right?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:56:20am |
re: #533 iceweasel
You're completely right, of course. I also had the same thought that she'd already be on the Internet for sure.
I guess my confusion is more basic: if you were the sort of person who records yourself having sex, wouldn't you keep all of that far, far away from your work computer or any other device you use for work? If you did that you wouldn't even need to worry about all the amateur mistakes you list, right?
I'm guessing she gets a lot of offers for dates?
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:56:35am |
re: #533 iceweasel
God bless human stupidity. It keeps the herd running stronger.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:57:00am |
re: #527 srb1976
Careful Hoops...much as I agree with you, remember, there are people out there who feel the same way about basketball.....I lived in Iowa long enough to meet several = )
LOL
Isn't Soccer funny? Stats may show that every kid in America played soccer in school..Personally I think it's a commie plot *wink*
Name one American pro soccer player besides Landon that can play...
Without google you would be stumped.....Soccer is weird in America...
I like soccer... I hate tennis players...LOL
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:57:49am |
re: #518 rightside
I agree with that. And the sentiment that everyone "should" own a home or that home ownership is mandatory notwithstanding ability to pay.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:59:24am |
re: #536 HoosierHoops
Soccer is funny...but the problem with basketball in Iowa, is that basketball season is the same time as wrestling season.....School I went to printed up T-shirts for the guys "I'd rather have wrestled and lost than played basketball"....
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 5:59:55am |
re: #537 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do you know where LaPorte is?
No clue- we'll probably be going there (Zionsville) before real long- he took of our grandkids with. But I'd welcome any input not just from HH but any other lizards. On my maps Indiana is pretty much all Terra Incognita (although I understand most of the dragons are gone now).
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:00:20am |
re: #529 revobob
Hoopster- My #1 son just moved his family to Zionsville (SP?) north of Indianapolis. Is this an area you know at all? What I'd love is some sort of local thing- restaurant known locally for great ______, unusal building, something not known outside the area that I can casually drop in when talking to him. He knows I've never been south of Gary, and it would freak him out.
Dude..That is so cool..Zionsville is a high class town here...I play golf up there.
I'll bet they have a really nice house there...The quality of life is top notch there..good schools...Congrads
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:01:00am |
re: #539 srb1976
Soccer is funny...but the problem with basketball in Iowa, is that basketball season is the same time as wrestling season.....School I went to printed up T-shirts for the guys "I'd rather have wrestled and lost than played basketball"....
'Stead of shirts, shoulda bin pins....
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:02:03am |
Speaking of animals - and the 9th Circuit Court...
Imagine, if you will, what would happen had this been a Republican politician.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:02:31am |
re: #541 HoosierHoops
Dude..That is so cool..Zionsville is a high class town here...I play golf up there.
I'll bet they have a really nice house there...The quality of life is top notch there..good schools...Congrads
It's funny- going there from living here in OC, SoCal all his life, he says Zionsville IS Mayberry, except for having the only Bentley dealership in Indiana!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:02:47am |
re: #540 revobob
No clue- we'll probably be going there (Zionsville) before real long- he took of our grandkids with. But I'd welcome any input not just from HH but any other lizards. On my maps Indiana is pretty much all Terra Incognita (although I understand most of the dragons are gone now).
I was born in Indiana, but have lived in Florida for 38 years.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:05:05am |
re: #544 revobob
It's funny- going there from living here in OC, SoCal all his life, he says Zionsville IS Mayberry, except for having the only Bentley dealership in Indiana!
OK- so where you play, is there a clubhouse with a restaurant open to the public, and if so, do they have a 'signature' sandwich or something? That's the kind of thing I'd like.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:06:30am |
re: #543 SixDegrees
Speaking of animals - and the 9th Circuit Court...
Imagine, if you will, what would happen had this been a Republican politician.
A half-dressed man cavorting with a sexually-aroused farm animal ?
Man has issues...
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:08:07am |
re: #539 srb1976
Soccer is funny...but the problem with basketball in Iowa, is that basketball season is the same time as wrestling season.....School I went to printed up T-shirts for the guys "I'd rather have wrestled and lost than played basketball"....
That is so wrong on so many levels.....The best wrestlers in the United States come from Iowa.. It's a fact....
Then they go to work for a GM dealership....
Meanwhile Ballers sign 60 million contracts to sit on benches in the NBA...Can you muscle a man out of the lane? Good....Sit on the end of the bench I may call on you this year... The best and richest athletes in the world are ballers...
Somebody will say..No the NFL...Nope..If a play would run a minute you'd need to call 911.....
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:08:25am |
re: #543 SixDegrees
Speaking of animals - and the 9th Circuit Court...
Imagine, if you will, what would happen had this been a Republican politician.
According to the council's written opinion, the material included a photograph of naked women painted like dairy cows, a woman shaving her pubic hair, and a video of a half-dressed man "cavorting with a sexually aroused farm animal."
I remember this case, and the images and video were reposted somewhere or other. They really weren't as bad as the verbal description makes it sound.
The video in particular was something that had been emailed around. It was a guy taking a piss in a farmyard and some bull came over and started chasing him. The guy falls over trying to pull up his pants and run. You don't even see his penis or anything. The description here makes it sound like something really obscene.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:08:26am |
re: #545 Cannadian Club Akbar
I was born in Indiana, but have lived in Florida for 38 years.
I don't know how to respond to that- best I can do is...
I'm sorry for your loss.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:09:59am |
re: #544 revobob
It's funny- going there from living here in OC, SoCal all his life, he says Zionsville IS Mayberry, except for having the only Bentley dealership in Indiana!
It is Mayberry.. The quality of life is off the charts...
I grew up in California and transfered here for my job
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:12:12am |
re: #548 HoosierHoops
To tell the truth, i never really got into basketball or wrestling....so I really can't argue the merits of either = )
(had to give ya a hard time though...couldn't resist)
The T-shirt part is true though
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:12:25am |
U.K. Blind Man Sees Wife for First Time After Having Tooth Implanted in Eye
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Gives a whole new meaning to "eye tooth"?
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:12:34am |
re: #548 HoosierHoops
That is so wrong on so many levels.....The best wrestlers in the United States come from Iowa.. It's a fact....
Then they go to work for a GM dealership....
Meanwhile Ballers sign 60 million contracts to sit on benches in the NBA...Can you muscle a man out of the lane? Good....Sit on the end of the bench I may call on you this year... The best and richest athletes in the world are ballers...
Somebody will say..No the NFL...Nope..If a play would run a minute you'd need to call 911.....
Without getting into "best" there have been references to best-conditioned athletes in some recent threads, and no one has mentioned motorcycle motocross racers- 45 min motos with ZERO time to relax- studies done years ago concluded that they are the best conditioned athletes on the planet. Of course most of their careers are done by about 25-28...
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:13:01am |
heh. I love Day by Day.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:13:33am |
re: #553 Nevergiveup
U.K. Blind Man Sees Wife for First Time After Having Tooth Implanted in Eye
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Gives a whole new meaning to "eye tooth"?
Hope it wasn't an incise-her!
| 557 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:13:42am |
re: #549 iceweasel
I remember this case, and the images and video were reposted somewhere or other. They really weren't as bad as the verbal description makes it sound.
The video in particular was something that had been emailed around. It was a guy taking a piss in a farmyard and some bull came over and started chasing him. The guy falls over trying to pull up his pants and run. You don't even see his penis or anything. The description here makes it sound like something really obscene.
If that's what it was, definitely overdone.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:17:12am |
re: #556 revobob
Hope it wasn't an incise-her!
Did you hear what he said after he saw her ?
OMG, I married a canine !
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:17:20am |
re: #554 revobob
Without getting into "best" there have been references to best-conditioned athletes in some recent threads, and no one has mentioned motorcycle motocross racers- 45 min motos with ZERO time to relax- studies done years ago concluded that they are the best conditioned athletes on the planet. Of course most of their careers are done by about 25-28...
Hey friend....A motorcycle rider must be well conditioned in his sport....
He battles the bike and himself....
Try to make a basket against KG in the Garden and you'll get your ass knocked out....There is no play school when you go and challenge one of the greatest athletes on the planet in the pro's..
Anyone one going to stop Kobe this morning?
Anyone on Earth? I'll be his agent..give me a call..
/I'm just having fun this morning
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:23:28am |
re: #553 Nevergiveup
U.K. Blind Man Sees Wife for First Time After Having Tooth Implanted in Eye
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Gives a whole new meaning to "eye tooth"?
heh-heh.
Great comment for a dentist to make.
| 561 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:24:13am |
re: #560 reine.de.tout
heh-heh.
Great comment for a dentist to make.
Good Morning Reine!
Hope today finds you well
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:25:21am |
re: #561 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Reine!
Hope today finds you well
Hiya, Hoosier!
Yep, today finds me well, thank goodness.
And you?
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:25:35am |
re: #559 HoosierHoops
Hey friend....A motorcycle rider must be well conditioned in his sport....
He battles the bike and himself....
Try to make a basket against KG in the Garden and you'll get your ass knocked out....There is no play school when you go and challenge one of the greatest athletes on the planet in the pro's..
Anyone one going to stop Kobe this morning?
Anyone on Earth? I'll be his agent..give me a call..
/I'm just having fun this morning
In the spirit of fun, you're right about going in on KG (Shaq? Don't wanna go there either!), but that's almost NFL-toughness. After you get up, or bounce off or whatever you have a leisurely jog downcourt to reorganize the sensory inputs before you have to go full-on again. Kobe gets all that R & R on the outside while they pass it around before he drives. And 3 pointers? By definition you gotta be relaxed to shoot 'em. No argument that ballers are better conditioned than MOST NFLers, but neither are close to top 'crossers. And there ain't no benches in motocross!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:25:54am |
re: #496 Cannadian Club Akbar
No, I usually serve homemade coleslaw (with a vinegar based dressing, because mayo is EVIL!) and baked beans.
| 565 |
Ateam Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:25:58am |
re: #513 Nevergiveup
re: #509 srb1976
Ever been stoned and hungry? ( not that I ever was )
To be stoned or not to be at all
/hungry? boiled chickpeas, salt, pepper (or Indian style Chana-masala [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:28:47am |
re: #508 iceweasel
If you can find a grocery store or market that sells pork belly, making bacon is pretty easy. And I mean the cured/smoked pork product, not the euphemism.
| 567 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:31:10am |
re: #517 Cannadian Club Akbar
7-11 chili/cheese dogs. Haven't had one in years.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:32:33am |
re: #566 Mad Al-Jaffee
If you can find a grocery store or market that sells pork belly, making bacon is pretty easy. And I mean the cured/smoked pork product, not the euphemism.
I enjoy 'Good Eats' with Alton Brown on the Food Network. Not long ago he did a show on how to select the meat and how to prepare your own bacon- it's probably available on their site. Looked good, but too much time and work compared to just going to our local meat market. (We have a good one- not mass processed, made on site, by real guys with blood on their aprons!)
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:32:52am |
re: #563 revobob
In the spirit of fun, you're right about going in on KG (Shaq? Don't wanna go there either!), but that's almost NFL-toughness. After you get up, or bounce off or whatever you have a leisurely jog downcourt to reorganize the sensory inputs before you have to go full-on again. Kobe gets all that R & R on the outside while they pass it around before he drives. And 3 pointers? By definition you gotta be relaxed to shoot 'em. No argument that ballers are better conditioned than MOST NFLers, but neither are close to top 'crossers. And there ain't no benches in motocross!
This is fun....
Can you imagine being a NFL reciever going across the middle and Ronnie Lott wants to knock you out? spooky shit... How about dunking on Shaq and waking up the next day....Trying to hit the ball against Roger Clemons in the 9th inning? Blocking a free kick by Beckham in the 89th minute...
Walking up to the starting line to run the 100 meter race against the fastest men on Earth....
There are a thousand sports that require you to win against the best....
Motorcycle racing is way way down on the list
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:33:17am |
Iran to prosecute British embassy workers for . . . something.
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:33:36am |
re: #565 Ateam
To be stoned or not to be at all
/hungry? boiled chickpeas, salt, pepper (or Indian style Chana-masala [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Link fixed.
| 572 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:34:08am |
Fuck..There is a Billy Mays ad on right now...
There is no shame in the world today....
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:34:38am |
re: #557 SasquatchOnSteroids
If that's what it was, definitely overdone.
I think someone had mirrored the judge's site or something. I can't recall.
I do remember that the video wasn't much worse than something you'd find on America's Stupidest Home Videos.
The picture of the naked women painted like cows was also in the category or stupid and tacky, but it wasn't obscene. Can't recall the other photo they mention, but the site as a whole looked like a place where someone was dumping random stuff they were emailed. It really seemed like the worst he could be accused of was tackiness and a mildly stupid sense of humour.
(well, and some stupidity, in not realising that it was open to the public)
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:34:48am |
Last update - 15:30 03/07/2009
Report: U.S. to block Iran sanctions at G8 summit
By Shlomo Shamir, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Iran, Nuclear Program
The United States is opposed to enacting a new set of financial sanctions against Iran that are due to be discussed in the G8 summit next week, diplomatic officials in New York reported Friday.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
What the Fuck? Has the world turned upside down? Hey, I guess elections have consequences ha?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:34:50am |
re: #568 revobob
That's what inspired me to tray making my own. I bought 2 lbs of pork belly at a Latino market, cured it for about 5 days and cooked it in my smoker at the lowest temp I could get it to. It wasn't exactly cold smoking, like Alton did on that show, but it still worked.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:35:37am |
re: #572 HoosierHoops
Fuck..There is a Billy Mays ad on right now...
There is no shame in the world today....
They should have a Mays lookalike selling Farah Fawcett posters and tickets to Michael Jackson's funeral.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:36:17am |
re: #573 iceweasel
The picture of the naked women painted like cows was also in the categoryorstupid and tacky, but it wasn't obscene.
Of not or. PIMF.
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:37:27am |
re: #566 Mad Al-Jaffee
If you can find a grocery store or market that sells pork belly, making bacon is pretty easy. And I mean the cured/smoked pork product, not the euphemism.
Yup. I've done it before. Finding decent pork belly isn't easy, though.
The results are very good, and you have control over the ingredients and flavor. But frankly, if you can find a butcher who makes their own bacon (oddly, this is easier than finding one who will sell you a pork belly) it's probably easier to just buy the finished product.
If the economy keeps circling the drain, though, I may have to start raising my own hogs.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:37:56am |
re: #576 Mad Al-Jaffee
They should have a Mays lookalike selling Farah Fawcett posters and tickets to Michael Jackson's funeral.
Hasn't there been like 6 famous people die this last week?
| 580 |
Ateam Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:38:28am |
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:40:11am |
re: #577 iceweasel
Hey Ice, what does PIMF mean?
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:40:56am |
re: #569 HoosierHoops
This is fun....
Can you imagine being a NFL reciever going across the middle and Ronnie Lott wants to knock you out? spooky shit... How about dunking on Shaq and waking up the next day....Trying to hit the ball against Roger Clemons in the 9th inning? Blocking a free kick by Beckham in the 89th minute...
Walking up to the starting line to run the 100 meter race against the fastest men on Earth....
There are a thousand sports that require you to win against the best....
Motorcycle racing is way way down on the list
I did start this by limiting it to conditioning, but pound-for-pound I've known racers as tough as any other athlete- when I guy soaks off a body cast for fractured vertebrae to get on a bike and win an F1 race (Kenny Roberts), or race a 100 mile desrt race with a broken scapula (me- long ago) there is toughness involved. And for challenges, going man-on-man with Jerry Michulek in a revolver shoot-off (me, twice) is pretty cool. Challenges 3 are fun, and you can find them in any GOOD sport. Wide receivers have got to be braver than many though- defending against Beckham- not so much. He's probably playing in Italy or something that day anyway..
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:41:08am |
Just call him George W. Obama
The more Barack Obama learns about George W. Bush, the more he seems to like his predecessor. In yet another reversal from his campaign rhetoric and another broken promise to the Left, the Obama administration has adopted a Bush administration plan to use the NSA to secure private computer networks. The decision contradicts Obama’s earlier position that he would not allow the NSA to have access to private communications networks:
Heads exploding on the left.
| 584 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:41:31am |
Don't look down: Terrifying view from glass box balcony jutting out from skyscraper's 103rd floor
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
You would need a big gun and a whole bottle of tranquilizers to get my wife out there.
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:41:45am |
re: #579 HoosierHoops
Hasn't there been like 6 famous people die this last week?
McMahon. Fawcett. Mays. Jackson. Malden.
Seems like there was another.
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FrogMarch Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:42:01am |
re: #570 reine.de.tout
Iran to prosecute British embassy workers for . . . something.
Since the US has no diplomatic presence in Iran, the mullahs had to find another scapegoat for its blameshifting, although they still managed to prominently mention the CIA.
the Mullahs and the American left share the same bogeymen.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:43:04am |
re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee
That's what inspired me to tray making my own. I bought 2 lbs of pork belly at a Latino market, cured it for about 5 days and cooked it in my smoker at the lowest temp I could get it to. It wasn't exactly cold smoking, like Alton did on that show, but it still worked.
He did a show on smoking salmon that looked really good- I'd be more likely to try that. Glad the bacon turned well.
| 588 |
lincolntf Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:43:07am |
re: #574 Nevergiveup
That is insane. The rest of the world must be thinking "WTF are we gonna do now?". Even when they've been dicks to us, they all knew that they were dependent on us doing something when it came to things like sanctions. They could always go home and say the big, bad Americans bullied them into it, and still get the benefits of constraint on rogue regimes. Best of both worlds.
We're so screwed.
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:43:19am |
re: #585 SixDegrees
McMahon. Fawcett. Mays. Jackson. Malden.
Seems like there was another.
David Carridine (maybe a week before the rest)
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:43:51am |
Good morning y'all - from a very pleasant (68 degrees going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Hope everyone's doing well today.
And while today isn't the 4th of July, I thought I'd leave y'all with a song that fits these times (sorta, things aren't that bad here yet!) just because I love all of the lyrics and especially the line "Good Morning America how are ya, don't you know me I'm your native Son?"
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
I'll be back in a little while - just gotta go fly Old Glory today and of course tomorrow!
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:44:16am |
re: #581 Flyers1974
Hey Ice, what does PIMF mean?
In my case, "please ignore my fuckup".
For the more polite, Preview is My friend.
In my case, since I often miss stuff even when I preview, it means the former.
What's up, Flyers? Anything good planned for the Fourth?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:44:36am |
re: #587 revobob
I don't like salmon much, except in sushi. I'm probably the only Jewish guy in the world who doesn't eat lox. But I might try smoking salmon one of these days. My brother brined and smoked some one time and I actually liked it.
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:45:39am |
re: #575 Mad Al-Jaffee
That's what inspired me to tray making my own. I bought 2 lbs of pork belly at a Latino market, cured it for about 5 days and cooked it in my smoker at the lowest temp I could get it to. It wasn't exactly cold smoking, like Alton did on that show, but it still worked.
If you're interested in that sort of thing, try the book Charcuterie by Michael Ruhlman. Covers bacon (both dry and wet curing) along with all sorts of other cured meats like salami, various sausages, bologna, and so on. Currently the bible of meat curing techniques.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:46:19am |
re: #583 rightside
Just call him George W. Obama
Heads exploding on the left.
Not really news, only in the sense that Obama has in virtually every instance continued or extended Bush policies that civil libertarians loathe. This is only the latest instance.
(BTW, he's pushing back the release of the CIA torture briefings too!)
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:46:19am |
re: #589 srb1976
David Carridine (maybe a week before the rest)
Good call. It has been a very sad 2 weeks....A hundred years from now...All that will matter is that Micheal Jackson died this last week....
Weird world we live in...
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:46:41am |
re: #588 lincolntf
That is insane. The rest of the world must be thinking "WTF are we gonna do now?". Even when they've been dicks to us, they all knew that they were dependent on us doing something when it came to things like sanctions. They could always go home and say the big, bad Americans bullied them into it, and still get the benefits of constraint on rogue regimes. Best of both worlds.
We're so screwed.
We are actually siding with Russia and China? Some keep saying that Obama is NOT a commie bastard. Maybe not, but he is putting on some impersonation of one!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:50:07am |
re: #596 HoosierHoops
I was more upset by the death of blues guitairst/singer Sean Costello than Michael Jackson's. He died last year, I think a day before his 30th birthday.
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:50:09am |
re: #596 HoosierHoops
Good call. It has been a very sad 2 weeks....A hundred years from now...All that will matter is that Micheal Jackson died this last week....
Weird world we live in...
To be blunt, Jackson's music won't be remembered that far in the future by anyone but history uber-geeks. Being the pinnacle of bubble-gum pop music doesn't have much staying power.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:50:53am |
re: #591 iceweasel
Debating whether going to the beach is worth the 6 hour round trip. May just stay at home and have a few people over for drinks, etc... . Enjoying the fact that the courts are closed today. Forgot about the Friday before federal holiday being closed. What are you doing for the fourth?
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rightside Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:51:17am |
re: #595 iceweasel
Just another in an endless string of lies exposed from the campaign. I don't use that term lightly, either. All presidents go back on some campaign promises. This one has broken so many, you could call this Bush's 3rd term as far as those policies go.
| 604 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:51:39am |
Well, this grass isn't gonna smoke cut itself.
The neighbor has forced me into a position of activity.
Bastard.
| 605 |
Walter L. Newton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:51:46am |
re: #584 Nevergiveup
Don't look down: Terrifying view from glass box balcony jutting out from skyscraper's 103rd floor
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
You would need a big gun and a whole bottle of tranquilizers to get my wife out there.
Ok, you give me a whole bottle of tranquilizers, and I'll use my own gun :)
| 606 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:52:09am |
The Israel Air Force will review the possibility of purchasing the advanced American F-22 fifth-generation stealth fighter jet if a congressional ban is lifted, enabling it to be sold abroad, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.
The F-22 stealth bomber.
Photo: Courtesy
SLIDESHOW: Israel & Region %P% World
Referring to recent reports in the US that Congress had asked the Air Force to submit a report on the possibility of exporting the jet to Japan, Israel and other allies, a senior defense official said if this happened, "we will have to consider the option."
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
We can only hope!
| 607 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:52:43am |
re: #584 Nevergiveup
Don't look down: Terrifying view from glass box balcony jutting out from skyscraper's 103rd floor
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
You would need a big gun and a whole bottle of tranquilizers to get my wife out there.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:53:03am |
re: #592 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't like salmon much, except in sushi. I'm probably the only Jewish guy in the world who doesn't eat lox. But I might try smoking salmon one of these days. My brother brined and smoked some one time and I actually liked it.
I think it's like most things- done right, it's good stuff. Done without a little love, it's pretty mediocre. That said, I used to work with a guy from Seattle who went there once a year and brought canned salmon back- his fish, done by a cannery that knew what they were about- it was excellent!
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:53:34am |
re: #583 rightside
Just call him George W. Obama
Heads exploding on the left.
Also, check this out:
To Critics, New Policy on Terror Looks Old
Mr. Obama’s critics say that whether statutory authorization exists for his counterterrorism policies is just a legalistic point. The core problem with Mr. Bush’s approach, they argue, was that it trammeled individual rights. And they say Mr. Obama’s policies have not changed that.
“President Obama may mouth very different rhetoric,” said Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union. “He may have a more complicated process with members of Congress. But in the end, there is no substantive break from the policies of the Bush administration.”
Frankly, the only thing that's changed is that some people (including Congresspeople) who were opposed to these policies when they were Bush's, are now fine with them because they're Obama's.
Another reason for progressives and others to remain disgusted with the Democratic party.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:54:00am |
re: #601 SixDegrees
To be blunt, Jackson's music won't be remembered that far in the future by anyone but history uber-geeks. Being the pinnacle of bubble-gum pop music doesn't have much staying power.
Really? He has sold more records than anyone in history including the Beatles..
He is a God to people...Not me..But seriously..He will be like Elvis forever...period amen...
How are you doing this holiday weekend?
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:56:04am |
re: #602 Flyers1974
Debating whether going to the beach is worth the 6 hour round trip. May just stay at home and have a few people over for drinks, etc... . Enjoying the fact that the courts are closed today. Forgot about the Friday before federal holiday being closed. What are you doing for the fourth?
Sounds good! BBQ, booze, swimming and fireworks here. The Fourth is the one holiday, when I was living elsewhere, where I'd really miss the US. So I'm happy to be in the US for this one.
| 614 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:57:22am |
re: #608 revobob
I recently went to a sushi happy hour and ordered a piece of spicy tuna. I thought it was going to be a piece of fish that was kind of spicy. It turned out to be tuna that was chopped up and mixed with mayo in a roll. I almost vomited when I ate it.
| 615 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:57:46am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:58:22am |
re: #612 rightside
I agree with you on that.
There's quite a bot of criticism coming at Obama from the civil libertarians about this, including at least one prominent prog blogger who said something like, "Look, at least Bush and Cheney were open about what they were doing."
Can't argue with that.
| 617 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:58:36am |
I'm off to get the smoker started, rub the ribs and get some beer, wine and cigars. Have a great weekend everyone!
| 618 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 6:59:23am |
re: #614 Mad Al-Jaffee
Mayo and Sushi is a bad mix IMNSHO. It's disgusting and hides the flavour of the fish. Which is why I eat sushi in the first place.
/mmmmmm, raw tuna....
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:00:11am |
re: #618 BlueCanuck
Mayo and Sushi is a bad mix IMNSHO. It's disgusting and hides the flavour of the fish. Which is why I eat sushi in the first place.
/mmmmmm, raw tuna....
Tuna! Yum!
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:00:19am |
re: #610 HoosierHoops
Really? He has sold more records than anyone in history including the Beatles..
He is a God to people...Not me..But seriously..He will be like Elvis forever...period amen...
How are you doing this holiday weekend?
All true - now. Few will remember him in a couple of decades, though. There's nothing particularly compelling or innovative about his music. Presley and the Beatles, on the other hand, broke distinctive new musical ground in their day. Jackson just took what was already well established and turned it up to 11. For a little while. He hasn't done anything but perform as a sideshow freak for the last 20 years or so.
I'm well, and will be doing as little as possible this weekend, which still leaves a lot on my plate. Starting with applying grout sealer to a newly-repaired shower stall, and probably some industrial-strength weeding.
You?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:01:33am |
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:01:51am |
For all us designated old farts. (I know I barely fit that category, but my friends think I am.)
A great senior moment ...
Apparently, a self-important college freshman attending a recent football game took it upon himself to explain to a senior citizen sitting next to him why it was impossible for the older generation to understand his generation.
"You grew up in a different world, actually an almost primitive one", the student said, loud enough for many of those nearby to hear. "The young people of today grew up with television, jet planes, space travel, man walking on the moon. Our space probes have visited Mars. We have nuclear energy, ships and electric and hydrogen cars, cell phones, computers with light-speed processing...and more."
After a brief silence, the senior citizen responded:
"You're right, son. We didn't have those things when we were young........so WE invented them. Now, you arrogant little shit, what are you doing for the next generation?"
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:02:14am |
re: #614 Mad Al-Jaffee
I recently went to a sushi happy hour and ordered a piece of spicy tuna. I thought it was going to be a piece of fish that was kind of spicy. It turned out to be tuna that was chopped up and mixed with mayo in a roll. I almost vomited when I ate it.
I enjoy most of the sushi I've tried, but spicy tuna is one I have trouble with. Whatever they use for heat seems to be the problem. It's funny- my crews have always included Mexicans and they usually have a large can of jalapenos that they pop down like I eat cookies- but they can't handle wasabi- different kinds of spice. And they got all bug-eyed at the suckers on the octopus pieces. Especially when I told them it was taco!
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:03:32am |
re: #620 SixDegrees
Good post!
It's 10am here and I need to jump in the swimming pool....
I hope the water is somewhat warm....
BBL
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:07:26am |
re: #624 HoosierHoops
Have a good one Hoops, and keep your eyes open for something I can use to freak my son!
Time for me to get busy too- eggs to fry, bacon to cook, biscuits to liberate! Stay safe y'all!
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:08:03am |
Ah good morning again y'all! How is everyone doing today?
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:08:50am |
re: #623 revobob
I enjoy most of the sushi I've tried, but spicy tuna is one I have trouble with. Whatever they use for heat seems to be the problem. It's funny- my crews have always included Mexicans and they usually have a large can of jalapenos that they pop down like I eat cookies- but they can't handle wasabi- different kinds of spice. And they got all bug-eyed at the suckers on the octopus pieces. Especially when I told them it was taco!
The first time I ever tried sushi it was in Moscow. That is a big no-no! My daughter-in-law said, "Stay away from the sushi! Here, try the caviar, it's awesome!"
Same thing happened in Tiberias, on the Kinneret (Lake of Galilee). The restaurant we went to had a lengthy Thai menu. Don't ask. I ordered the St. Peter's fish and everyone else at the table was nibbling from my plate.
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:12:10am |
re: #627 Alouette
The first time I ever tried sushi it was in Moscow. That is a big no-no! My daughter-in-law said, "Stay away from the sushi! Here, try the caviar, it's awesome!"
Same thing happened in Tiberias, on the Kinneret (Lake of Galilee). The restaurant we went to had a lengthy Thai menu. Don't ask. I ordered the St. Peter's fish and everyone else at the table was nibbling from my plate.
Location, location, location! I was at a place in Montrose, Co. once that had sushi on the menu- visualized a map- yup, nearest ocean is about 2K miles away. Went with the steak which was fabulous. (Loves me Montrose too- great town!)
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:12:37am |
I have some yard work to do, later afternoon BBQ with the boys followed by poker. Work a fireworks show tomorrow.
It's been raining a lot more lately, stuff is growing too fast.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:13:08am |
Uh, y'all do realize that down this way we refer to sushi as "bait"!
I mean, isn't there some danger to eating raw fish!
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:14:31am |
re: #629 BigPapa
Hey BigPapa - you mean you're leaving us now just for some bbq!
Can I come over to your place?
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:14:34am |
I eat raw fish all the time. It's in all the grocery stores, and good sushi is every where. I loves teh poke an sushi!
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:15:32am |
re: #630 realwest
Not if it's prepared properly. Got a lot of sushi restaurants in my general neighbourhood. A sign of a good sushi restaurant is that they prepare all food in front of you.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:15:48am |
re: #632 BigPapa
I eat raw fish all the time. It's in all the grocery stores, and good sushi is every where. I loves teh poke an sushi!
Oh, well in that case kindly disregard my #631 - I thought y'all meant bbq as in MEAT over an open fire!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:15:52am |
Sign me up!
TV gameshow offers atheists 'salvation'
A Turkish television show is offering contestants what it claims is the "biggest prize ever" -- the chance for atheists to convert to one of the world's major religions.
The show, called "Tovbekarlar Yarisiyor," or "Penitents Compete," features a Muslim imam, a Catholic priest, a Jewish rabbi and a Buddhist monk attempting to persuade 10 atheists of the merits of their religion, according to CNN Turk.
If they succeed, the contestants are rewarded with a pilgrimage to one of their chosen faith's most sacred sites -- Mecca for Muslims, Jerusalem for converts to Judaism, a trip to Tibet for Buddhists and the chance to visit Ephesus and the Vatican for Christians.
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:15:53am |
re: #631 realwest
Hey BigPapa - you mean you're leaving us now just for some bbq!
Can I come over to your place?
NO! It's 4AM here. I don't start drinking beer until at least 8AM: camping rules in effect this weekend, except for Saturday.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:16:31am |
re: #633 BlueCanuck
But what about all the lead and mercury and other junk that's messing up the ocean?
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:17:12am |
re: #632 BigPapa
I eat raw fish all the time. It's in all the grocery stores, and good sushi is every where. I loves teh poke an sushi!
Are you thinking of sushimi perhaps?
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Vicious Michigan Union Thug Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:17:36am |
I have to pack up for my weekend trip to Toronto.
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lincolntf Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:17:37am |
re: #630 realwest
I have never eaten sushi. And believe me, it hasn't been easy. My wife loves it, and as of a few years ago there's been a huge explosion in the number of places that serve it. I'd say that at least 50% of the time we go out to dinner with other couples/rels someone tries to talk me into sushi.
At first, it was just an aversion to the idea of eating bait, now it's like a matter of principle. I intend to go to my grave having never eaten raw fish.
Oysters on the other hand, I won't have any other way.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:19:28am |
re: #638 UncleRancher
Hey UncleRancher - do you mean Sashimi ?
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:19:37am |
re: #637 realwest
But what about all the lead and mercury and other junk that's messing up the ocean?
That stuff doesn't go away by cooking. Besides if I worried excessively about what was in my food, I would be dead of starvation. You just have to moderate your consumption of some stuff. Anyway I think all the claims of mercury and lead poisoning are over rated. That stuff has had to be floating out there for millenia.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:20:17am |
re: #639 Alouette
I have to pack up for my weekend trip to Toronto.
Darn, wish I had known. I am leaving Toronto for the weekend. ;)
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:20:38am |
re: #630 realwest
Uh, y'all do realize that down this way we refer to sushi as "bait"!
I mean, isn't there some danger to eating raw fish!
Thre: #634 realwest
Oh, well in that case kindly disregard my #631 - I thought y'all meant bbq as in MEAT over an open fire!
ere can be- that's why 'real' sushi chefs are pretty well paid- years of training to learn what is safe, how to avoid contamination, and like that. The seafoods used have to be as fresh as possible- any hint of less and it DOES taste like bait. (There should probably be a Rocky Mountain oyster line in here somewhere, but I don't have the balls for it this morning.) And have you ever done the common hunting ritual of eating deer or mountain sheep liver raw as you field dress the critter?
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UncleRancher Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:20:53am |
re: #641 realwest
Hey UncleRancher - do you mean Sashimi ?
Yup. That's what I meant. Sashimi. Raw fish sliced up nice and delicious. YUM
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:21:05am |
re: #640 lincolntf
Well of course with oysters - but baked clams is the only way I know of to eat clams.
Actually, the fact is I don't like much of any kind of creature that comes from under the water - unless it's canned tuna fish!
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:21:05am |
re: #634 realwest
Oh, well in that case kindly disregard my #631 - I thought y'all meant bbq as in MEAT over an open fire!
It is! We'll probably do some rib eyes on the fire, but I'm bringing some poke as appetizer. You do to any function and somebody has a poke.
Very good simple food: raw ahi tuna, rock salt, green or white onion, a little seaweed, sesame oil for moisture, some sesame seed or crushed macadamia nut. NOM NOM NOM. Washed down with beer of course.
Spicy Poke: fresh ahi, mayonnaise, white onion, sesame oil, rock salt, finely diced habanero to taste, should be a mild tingle. NOM NOM NOM!
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srb1976 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:22:15am |
Ok folks, it was a long night, so I'm off to bed....have a great day!
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:23:39am |
re: #638 UncleRancher
Are you thinking of sushimi perhaps?
Sashimi-raw fish, nothing else
Sushi-raw fish over a little rice, or in a roll
poke-raw fish mixed with other ingredients, sorta like a ceviche but without the citrus marinade
I like it all! I feel lucky to live here as far as food goes.
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Ateam Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:24:09am |
re: #627 Alouette
The first time I ever tried sushi it was in Moscow. That is a big no-no! My daughter-in-law said, "Stay away from the sushi! Here, try the caviar, it's awesome!"
Same thing happened in Tiberias, on the Kinneret (Lake of Galilee). The restaurant we went to had a lengthy Thai menu. Don't ask. I ordered the St. Peter's fish and everyone else at the table was nibbling from my plate.
Look what happened - you ate the fish, still the dish stayed untouched!
Image: st_peters_fish_tb_n112000.jpg
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:25:26am |
re: #647 BigPapa
What's cookin' in your avatar? Giant fish eyeballs?
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kansas Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:26:54am |
re: #432 3 wood
Good morning.
Yesterday the Dow dropped 2.6% and the S&P 500 dropped 2.9% on news of increasing unemployment. The pace of destroyed jobs picked up month to month.
This was the biggest drop in the market on the last trading day before the 4th of July in 5 decades. Just think about that, half a century, 50 years. The Dem's are in charge of everything, Bush is gone, the Dem's have it all their way, and yet we had this biggest drop in 5 decades.
The evidence is becoming undeniable to all but the delusional that Obama's economic policies have been a failure.
Job losses turn up heat on Obama
This is the same guy who said he was going to create/save 2, no, 3 million jobs. He's now 5.6 million jobs below that and counting.
And yet they still want to nationalize health care and adopt Cap and Trade.
At some point the light may dawn on these socialists that government does not create economic growth, private business does.
I wonder how long it will take for the voters to wake up?
Gallup has him at 60% approval on the handling of the economy. Course that could be the affirmative action portion kicking in where they spot him 40%.//
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:27:16am |
re: #644 revobob
" And have you ever done the common hunting ritual of eating deer or mountain sheep liver raw as you field dress the critter?"
Ah, no, no I haven't. I actually don't like going hunting the way most folks seem to do it anyway.
Get up at the crack of dawn (actually before the crack of dawn - during pre-dawn) start drinking, loading rifles (or shotguns, depending on what you're hunting) and then tramp across fields over (or under) fences all day hoping for a shot at a deer.
Or climbing up to a perch and waiting for the deer to come to you - or the salt lick you've put out - and then blasting 'em from there.
Nope, except for the booze and beer and perches, reminds me TOO much of being in the Army!
Back when I could actually get around pretty much on my own, I really enjoyed hunting deer with a camera - no telephoto lens either - just to see whether or not I'd kept my fieldcraft abilities going.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:27:31am |
re: #649 BigPapa
Ceviches are actually cooked - the marinade, which includes an acid, cooks (pickles) the fish or meat. It's quite tasty.
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:29:47am |
re: #651 wrenchwench
What's cookin' in your avatar? Giant fish eyeballs?
LOL That would be some monster fish if it were. Those are Manila clams in a paella. I had just set them on to steam and was moving the dish around the fire when a buddy snapped it. Good times.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:31:54am |
re: #652 kansas
Good morning - polls, shmolls! Rasmussen's poll of likey voters has his approval rating at -2 - and generally trending downward for the last 3 weeks or so.
So he may still be popular, but I reckon he isn't all that popular with the recently unemployed or underemployed.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:32:23am |
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Ojoe Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:33:52am |
Fix the economy, mf congressional and executive morons. Oh - you guys broke it in the first place. Why do we by and large re-elect you?
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revobob Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:34:16am |
re: #653 realwest
" And have you ever done the common hunting ritual of eating deer or mountain sheep liver raw as you field dress the critter?"
Ah, no, no I haven't. I actually don't like going hunting the way most folks seem to do it anyway.
Get up at the crack of dawn (actually before the crack of dawn - during pre-dawn) start drinking, loading rifles (or shotguns, depending on what you're hunting) and then tramp across fields over (or under) fences all day hoping for a shot at a deer.
Or climbing up to a perch and waiting for the deer to come to you - or the salt lick you've put out - and then blasting 'em from there.
Nope, except for the booze and beer and perches, reminds me TOO much of being in the Army!
Back when I could actually get around pretty much on my own, I really enjoyed hunting deer with a camera - no telephoto lens either - just to see whether or not I'd kept my fieldcraft abilities going.
Truth is unless I need it to eat, I no longer hunt either, I was trying to make the point that perception is the key element when discussing things like sushi, oysters, steak tartare, and such. Personally I'm not a fan of okra- maybe because of the ways I've had it prepared, but as seen above some folks love it. Raw oysters are not a favorite, but sushi is. One of the things I enjoy is trying new stuff, and you can't let your preconceptions get in the way of that. Not everything you try is a winner obviously, but it'd be a shame to miss the ones that are.
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:36:58am |
re: #654 lawhawk
Ceviches are actually cooked - the marinade, which includes an acid, cooks (pickles) the fish or meat. It's quite tasty.
Yes sir! I've had ceviches at Mexican places (I'm from Cali). As you said, the acids coagulate/pickles the proteins and firms up the flesh so it is sorta cooked. A simple dish, but if using good produce is very good. I used to get some of a horribly greasy roach coach at a construction site, but every Friday they had ceviche with shrimp and a little jalepeno served on a thick crunchy tostada shell. Good times!
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BatGuano Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:37:15am |
On this day in 1776, from a letter written by John Adams:
The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more. You will think me transported with Enthusiasm but I am not. I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will tryumph in that Days Transaction, even altho We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not. (The Book of Abigail and John: Selected Letters of the Adams Family, 1762-1784, Harvard University Press, 1975, 142).
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:40:06am |
re: #640 lincolntf
I have never eaten sushi. And believe me, it hasn't been easy. My wife loves it, and as of a few years ago there's been a huge explosion in the number of places that serve it. I'd say that at least 50% of the time we go out to dinner with other couples/rels someone tries to talk me into sushi.
At first, it was just an aversion to the idea of eating bait, now it's like a matter of principle. I intend to go to my grave having never eaten raw fish.
Oysters on the other hand, I won't have any other way.
Not all sushi is raw, and not all sushi has fish in it. Most places offer various fried or vegetarian fillings.
Proximity to the ocean makes a big difference. We're in the heart of the Midwest, and sushi around here, while good, isn't going to be winning any awards anytime soon. When we visited the Olympic Peninsula in Washington a couple of years ago, though, the crappiest drive-through sushi joint (yes, they have those out there) beat the best sushi I've had locally by miles. It doesn't hurt, I suppose, that there is a large Asian immigrant population in that area, either.
My personal favorite around here is sushi made with fried freshwater eel.
Unfortunately, even though we border the Great Lakes, freshwater fish has issues with parasites. Saltwater fish doesn't seem to have these issues - I know parasitologists who will eat sushi without hesitation, but who run screaming at the idea of using, say, pickerel or fresh-water salmon in place of something out of the ocean.
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Ojoe Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:40:16am |
Why don't we just say depression and get to the bottom right away so we can actually turn around? Plus get rid of the current warm-over of Herbert Hoover?
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Chicken Kiev Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:40:30am |
#642 Blue Canuck
Anyway I think all the claims of mercury and lead poisoning are over rated. That stuff has had to be floating out there for millenia.
They're not overrated. And that stuff has not been out there for millennia -- heavy metals in seafood are a result of human-made pollution: shipping, mainly, and urban runoff into the seas. Some countries (including the USA, of course, which gets no credit from environmentalists for doing anything right) have cleaned up their acts considerably in the last decade or so, but the damage has largely been done and long-lived large fish accumulate much mercury over their lifetimes which stays in their tissue and is transferred to whomever eats them, which can cause neurological damage which reveals itself gradually over the years (and causes immediate damage to babies in utero). So eat large long-lived species in moderation or at your own risk.
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jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:41:04am |
re: #432 3 wood
I wonder how long it will take for the voters to wake up?
According to this, from Crooks and Liars, some of them want even more of what's not working:
The worse news: as some economists predicted, the stimulus package was too small to affect the "real" economy - you know, the one you and I live in? - in any significant way. Sounds like those who urged Obama to think large and visionary (a la FDR's Public Works Administration) really did have the right idea:
[Link: crooksandliars.com...]
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BatGuano Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:42:06am |
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:42:15am |
The youngster pictured at the top of this thread bears a striking resemblance to mahmoud ahmadinejad.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:42:39am |
re: #664 BatGuano
The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival.
Sh!t! That was yesterday! I missed it.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:43:01am |
re: #671 _RememberTonyC
Now that's just plain cruel to that toddler. I am sure he's much better then short shit.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:43:36am |
re: #666 Ojoe
Good morning Ojoe! What, no photos today from Mt. Wilson Observatory!
How are you doing today my friend?
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BatGuano Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:44:12am |
re: #672 wrenchwench
Sh!t! That was yesterday! I missed it.
It was a great celebration. Sorry you weren't there!
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lincolntf Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:45:07am |
re: #665 SixDegrees
"Not all sushi is raw, and not all sushi has fish in it. Most places offer various fried or vegetarian fillings."
They've tried that line on me many times. No dice.
I actually love fresh seafood (summers on the Cape for decades), but like I said, now I'm kind of seeing how long I can hold out.
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:45:49am |
Good morning, everyone. Something about an extra hour of sleep does wonders for me. I feel quite a bit better than yesterday. And for breakfast, I decided to have leftover lasagna. Yum.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:45:55am |
re: #669 jaunte
Yes, Krugman has been saying all along that the stimulus needed to be twice as big (!) to have any effect.
I see a bad moon 'rising....
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KenJen Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:46:16am |
re: #671 _RememberTonyC
The youngster pictured at the top of this thread bears a striking resemblance to mahmoud ahmadinejad.
Well they probably both still are in diapers. Other than that no.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:46:39am |
re: #673 BlueCanuck
Well I don't know about that Blue - toddlers usually grow out of (sometimes) being not so good looking.
ShortShit is what he is.
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J.S. Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:47:23am |
re: #574 Nevergiveup
That figures...it's only a matter of time before Americans are doin' business in Tehran...(just like the Europeans),.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:48:10am |
re: #678 iceweasel
Well, if you're going half in, you might as well go full in. The tax and spenders pretty much figure that if 1.2 trillion in porkulus wasn't sufficient to get the economy rolling, doubling down should.
Krugman should know better, but then again, he's Krugman.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:48:21am |
re: #678 iceweasel
Krugman has been full of it for years. He was always forecasting economic downturns while the economy was booming. He "forecast" this economic downturn, and now is being hailed as a prophet.
/stopped clock...
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:48:43am |
I haven't seen this posted here; perhaps it is in the Linkviewer:
In Washington, Conservatives are Never Really In Power
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:48:47am |
re: #677 vxbush
Good morning {vxbush} - It may be the extra hour of sleep or it may be the absence of stress, but whatever, it's good to know you're feeling better!
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:48:56am |
re: #678 iceweasel
Yes, Krugman has been saying all along that the stimulus needed to be twice as big (!) to have any effect.
I see a bad moon 'rising....
[Video]
Maybe if they actually spent some of the stimulus it would have more of an impact. To date, less than 10% of the appropriation has actually found it's way into the economy.
The remainder is being held in an historically gigantic slush fund, ready for deployment just before the 2010 and 2012 elections.
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KenJen Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:49:05am |
re: #668 iceweasel
Iceweasel I've been meaning to apologize to you for calling you a sock puppet when you first arrived. Sorry. My bad.
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:49:37am |
re: #685 realwest
Good morning {vxbush} - It may be the extra hour of sleep or it may be the absence of stress, but whatever, it's good to know you're feeling better!
Yes. Of course, I didn't do any housework yesterday, so dishes are calling me, a floor that needs sweeping, and quite a bit more, I'm afraid.
I think caffeine must be delivered first before the body starts moving.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:50:44am |
The Anti-Krugman.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:50:46am |
re: #686 SixDegrees
Maybe if they actually spent some of the stimulus it would have more of an impact. To date, less than 10% of the appropriation has actually found it's way into the economy.
The remainder is being held in an historically gigantic slush fund, ready for deployment just before the 2010 and 2012 elections.
This I totally agree with.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:51:40am |
re: #673 BlueCanuck
Now that's just plain cruel to that toddler. I am sure he's much better then short shit.
sadly, toddlers (even cute ones) can't pick their parents :)
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:51:41am |
re: #688 vxbush OK, I understand, but - except maybe for the dishes, maybe y'all ought to just kick back and enjoy the day and get some REST and RELAXATION!
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:52:10am |
re: #691 jaunte
I'm just happy the oceans have stopped rising.
...
That's because the ice caps are increasing in size. Climate change donncha know?
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:52:52am |
re: #687 KenJen
Iceweasel I've been meaning to apologize to you for calling you a sock puppet when you first arrived. Sorry. My bad.
Hey KenJen!
No worries, mate. Thanks for the apology; that's very nice of you. Hope you have a great fourth!
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:52:58am |
re: #685 realwest
Realwest - somewhere earlier, somebody implied you had knowledge of jungle warfare. I was wondering if you ever read "The Jungle is Neutral?" Pardon me, if it was not you to whom the earlier post referred.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:53:11am |
re: #691 jaunte Good morning jaunte! What do you mean "the oceans have stopped rising"!
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:53:34am |
re: #693 realwest
OK, I understand, but - except maybe for the dishes, maybe y'all ought to just kick back and enjoy the day and get some REST and RELAXATION!
You haven't seen the carpet in the living room. If I had the money, I'd pay for someone else to shampoo it. But it must be done. It looks horrible.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:54:18am |
re: #680 realwest
Well I don't know about that Blue - toddlers usually grow out of (sometimes) being not so good looking.
ShortShit is what he is.
excellent point, RW. he is what he is: short, and a piece of shit.
hope you're feeling well today.
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Ojoe Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:56:32am |
re: #674 realwest
Hi realwest! Today, I'm clinging to guns and religion & eating all I want...
Here is the Towercam, though not an especially good one.
Good morning to all.
BBL like this evening!
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:58:02am |
re: #696 Flyers1974 Well I was certified as a "Jungle Expert"* by the US Army's Jungle Operations Center in Panama, CZ a long time ago and have tread through at least my share of the jungle, but no, I've never read that book.
*Just means I completed a two week course in Jungle warfare; but my 8th SFG Recondo training (six weeks in mostly double or triple canopy jungle) was more significant and helpful later on in Cambodia Vietnam!
Do you know who it was that wrote that book?
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:58:51am |
re: #700 _RememberTonyC
excellent point, RW. he is what he is: short, and a piece of shit.
hope you're feeling well today.
IIRC, the need to not hurt his feelings meant that Great Britian allowed their soldiers to be "guests" for a length of time. . .last summer? Now, the new situation has more British citizens held against their will, and what is being done? 1979 all over again with the person that Real would prefer I not name who was in the WH at the time:)
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:58:52am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:59:06am |
OT: Wow, this is cool:
Two Centuries On, a Cryptologist Cracks a Presidential Code :
For more than 200 years, buried deep within Thomas Jefferson's correspondence and papers, there lay a mysterious cipher -- a coded message that appears to have remained unsolved. Until now.
The cryptic message was sent to President Jefferson in December 1801 by his friend and frequent correspondent, Robert Patterson, a mathematics professor at the University of Pennsylvania. President Jefferson and Mr. Patterson were both officials at the American Philosophical Society -- a group that promoted scholarly research in the sciences and humanities -- and were enthusiasts of ciphers and other codes, regularly exchanging letters about them.
(snip)
There is no evidence that Jefferson, or anyone else for that matter, ever solved the code. But Jefferson did believe the cipher was so inscrutable that he considered having the State Department use it, and passed it on to the ambassador to France, Robert Livingston
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:59:22am |
here's another sad story about life as a female when you are from a barbaric culture:
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
you just have to admire the restraint and humanity of Israelis, even in the face of constant danger from their "neighbors."
| 707 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:00:16am |
re: #700 _RememberTonyC
Thank you, I am feeling ok today, notwithstanding the contortions I had to go through to hang Old Glory this morning!
How are you doing today?
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:00:35am |
re: #705 iceweasel
OT: Wow, this is cool:
Two Centuries On, a Cryptologist Cracks a Presidential Code :
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
I read that story this morning! Very fascinating, especially the way the cipher is put together. Most ingenious.
| 709 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:01:12am |
re: #705 iceweasel
Yeah, someone posted it in the news links up top. Really cool stuff, and the result released at the right time.
| 710 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:02:28am |
re: #701 Ojoe Well I hope I catch you later on - and I still think that's a great photo!
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:02:31am |
re: #708 vxbush
I read that story this morning! Very fascinating, especially the way the cipher is put together. Most ingenious.
Did you like National Treasure? Wasn't that about codes and ciphers?
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:03:45am |
re: #709 BlueCanuck
re: #708 vxbush
It's so cool! I love this:
After about a week of working on the puzzle, the numerical key to Mr. Patterson's cipher emerged -- 13, 34, 57, 65, 22, 78, 49. Using that digital key, he was able to unfurl the cipher's text:
"In Congress, July Fourth, one thousand seven hundred and seventy six. A declaration by the Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled. When in the course of human events..."
That, of course, is the beginning -- with a few liberties taken -- to the Declaration of Independence, written at least in part by Jefferson himself. "Patterson played this little joke on Thomas Jefferson," says Dr. Smithline. "And nobody knew until now."
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:03:57am |
re: #711 DisturbedEma
Did you like National Treasure? Wasn't that about codes and ciphers?
Absolutely. While I have never studied cryptography at a serious level (I'm not that thrilled with numerical analysis, to be honest), I did find all those puzzles and ciphers to be very, very cool. That was one of the few things I enjoyed in The Da Vinci Code. Give me a puzzle, and I love to see if I can get it--but if it's too complex, I get frustrated easily.
| 714 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:04:34am |
re: #707 realwest
Thank you, I am feeling ok today, notwithstanding the contortions I had to go through to hang Old Glory this morning!
How are you doing today?
very well, thanks. although i got home from work really late last night (after 3am) and was awoken this morning by chainsaws in my neighborhood. Happy 4th and thanks for flying the flag proudly!
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:05:44am |
| 716 |
Stuart Leviton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:06:50am |
re: #183 ArchangelMichael
Well I have 12 digits of pi memorized, which is probably 5-6 more than most people.
It's cool to realize that at any moment I can tell you as many digits of pi that you would want to hear. I just can't tell you where in the sequence the digits occur. Just an irrational thought.
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:07:25am |
re: #714 _RememberTonyC
Well happy 4th to you too - even though a day early and it's my honor to fly the Flag.
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:07:34am |
re: #716 Stuart Leviton
It's cool to realize that at any moment I can tell you as many digits of pi that you would want to hear. I just can't tell you where in the sequence the digits occur. Just an irrational thought.
Yes, but even those of us who actually do things in mathematics frankly don't need to know a lot of digits of pi. I'll just let Mathematica handle it.
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Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:07:34am |
re: #702 realwest
Frederick Chapman. He was a Brit Special Forces guy in world war II. Long story short, as the Japanese went into Malaysia, Chapman and a few others went in also to operate in the jungle - blowing bridges up, killing Japanese when possible, etc... He lived in the jungle for two years, never operating without suffering from at a minimum, malaria, usually with multiple diseases going on at the same time.
One interesting thing he wrote about was the difference between fighting in a place that happens to be jungle, as opposed to being able to live in the jungle for extended periods and using the jungle to your advantage (which the Japanese could not do.) His main theme, if you will, is that if your mind is tough, the body will follow. His exploits have been compared to Lawrence of Arabia - not in effect, but in terms of pure feat of arms. Excellent book. He died in 1969, apparently of suicide.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:08:09am |
re: #703 DisturbedEma
IIRC, the need to not hurt his feelings meant that Great Britian allowed their soldiers to be "guests" for a length of time. . .last summer? Now, the new situation has more British citizens held against their will, and what is being done? 1979 all over again with the person that Real would prefer I not name who was in the WH at the time:)
You must be refering to "The patron saint of islamofascism."
| 721 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:09:35am |
Reading Crooks and Liars led me to a few more left-of-center blogs, and one thing has emerged from this morning's reading: some people are still really disturbed about George W. Bush wearing a flight suit.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:11:27am |
re: #721 jaunte
Reading Crooks and Liars led me to a few more left-of-center blogs, and one thing has emerged from this morning's reading: some people are still really disturbed about George W. Bush wearing a flight suit.
Yes, but who? The mentions of it I've seen lately have been used to point out media bias.
| 723 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:12:50am |
re: #722 iceweasel
No one "important" but it's cropped up at random in the comment threads I've been reading.
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FrogMarch Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:13:28am |
re: #721 jaunte
Reading Crooks and Liars led me to a few more left-of-center blogs, and one thing has emerged from this morning's reading: some people are still really disturbed about George W. Bush wearing a flight suit.
The left are suffer immense collective hate/rage towards Bush/Cheney.
Their obsessive hatred dies hard.
| 725 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:13:42am |
re: #721 jaunte
Heh. Just wait until Obama puts on a leotard. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
| 726 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:13:55am |
re: #724 FrogMarch
The left suffer immense collective hate/rage towards Bush/Cheney.
Their obsessive hatred dies hard.
fixed.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:14:22am |
re: #715 vxbush
Did you step through the video where they walk you through how the phrase was encoded? It's available here:
Click on the arrows in the upper right corner to see how it was transformed. Very cool.
vxbush-- thank you so much for that, it really helped me to understand how it worked in a way that the description in the article didn't.
One question, since you know about this stuff-- slide 7 explained where the number of (random) letters added to the beginning of each line came from, but what determined the number added to the end of each line? (i'm reading kind of quickly, apologies if I missed something very obvious)
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Macker Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:14:23am |
re: #720 _RememberTonyC
You must be refering to "The patron saint of islamofascism."
Are you referring to the fellow who made possible that classic, Brokeback Mosque?
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:14:46am |
re: #719 Flyers1974
WOW - what a tough dude he was - check out wiki's entry on him: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Just incredibly tough. And mostly right about the Jungle being neutral.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:16:07am |
re: #723 jaunte
No one "important" but it's cropped up at random in the comment threads I've been reading.
Oh that explains it. With few exceptions, I stay away from the comment threads on those blogs. And you can always find a couple of lunatics in them.
| 733 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:16:39am |
re: #721 jaunte
Reading Crooks and Liars led me to a few more left-of-center blogs, and one thing has emerged from this morning's reading: some people are still really disturbed about George W. Bush wearing a flight suit.
Uh, what? He was, after all, a fighter pilot himself, so why woulnd't he..........oh, never mind, just saw the "left-of-center" words!
| 734 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:16:59am |
re: #728 iceweasel
vxbush-- thank you so much for that, it really helped me to understand how it worked in a way that the description in the article didn't.
One question, since you know about this stuff-- slide 7 explained where the number of (random) letters added to the beginning of each line came from, but what determined the number added to the end of each line? (i'm reading kind of quickly, apologies if I missed something very obvious)
I don't think they said, which is unfortunate. It wasn't clear if the additional letters were also somehow determined based on the numerical pairs. Perhaps the scholarly article covers that, but the Wall Street Journal article doesn't, from what I can see.
| 735 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:17:50am |
re: #731 3 wood
Hey 3 wood, yes I am still around! How are you?
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Stuart Leviton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:18:59am |
re: #718 vxbush
Yes, but even those of us who actually do things in mathematics frankly don't need to know a lot of digits of pi. I'll just let Mathematica handle it.
Good point. My joke was similar to your comment in that I need not memorize any number of digits from pi. Instead, I can just sprout off a random sequence of digits and claim those digits occur somewhere in pi.
| 738 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:20:05am |
re: #736 Stuart Leviton
Good point. My joke was similar to your comment in that I need not memorize any number of digits from pi. Instead, I can just sprout off a random sequence of digits and claim those digits occur somewhere in pi.
True, but would you want someone to prove it to you? It could take up to ten years to compute it. :D
| 739 |
3 wood Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:20:26am |
re: #733 realwest
Check your email please, I have an update for your prayer list :(
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:21:02am |
re: #729 Macker
Are you referring to the fellow who made possible that classic, Brokeback Mosque?
GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!
no sir, the "Patron Saint of islamofascism" was the POTUS from 1977-1981.
| 742 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:21:06am |
re: #732 iceweasel
I haven't read Crooks and Liars much, so I thought the comments and the linked blogs would give me a general sense of what the thinking was on the other side of some of the issues discussed here. Lots of people feeling victimized by forces beyond their control on both sides, but the tendency 'over there' is to blame the 'wingnuts.' Similar to here, but not nearly as many comments about taking care of one's own needs.
| 743 |
Macker Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:22:02am |
re: #741 _RememberTonyC
Um, 'scuse me...I WAS referring to Dhimmi.
| 744 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:22:29am |
re: #739 3 wood
Hey, I do have an e-mail from you, but nothing having to do with The List!
| 745 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:22:50am |
re: #744 realwest
Hey, I do have an e-mail from you, but nothing having to do with The List!
Maybe it's in code, given today's topic. :D
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jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:23:14am |
re: #737 Ateam
And what is the tendency there toward 4th?
No mention of the 4th, really, except for this:
"In case you haven't heard, the Million Can March [food bank donations] is a counter protest to the teabagging protest redux scheduled for the Fourth of July. Good luck wi dat, teabaggers."[Link: crooksandliars.com...]
| 747 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:24:44am |
re: #745 vxbush I don't think so; 3 wood knows I can't break even the simplest code!
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:25:06am |
re: #734 vxbush
I don't think they said, which is unfortunate. It wasn't clear if the additional letters were also somehow determined based on the numerical pairs. Perhaps the scholarly article covers that, but the Wall Street Journal article doesn't, from what I can see.
Sounds right. Looking at it I can see that it must be coming from the second set of digits in the key-- that is, the number of letters added to each line in each instance IS a number that appears in the second set of digits-- but the pattern for application isn't leaping out at me.
| 749 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:26:58am |
re: #746 jaunte
Rev. Phat of Les Enrages, points out:
This all started with a vague notion that we should do something more than just have a good laugh at the next round of tea parties scheduled for July 4th. I thought that if teabaggers are so afraid of socialism, maybe we could show 'em socialism on a national scale. And what is more socialistic than sharing our food with others.
I got news for Rev. Phat: Donating to help others is NOT socialism.
| 750 |
Stuart Leviton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:27:59am |
re: #738 vxbush
True, but would you want someone to prove it to you? It could take up to ten years to compute it. :D
Bulls eye, my friend. Your initial point got me wondering how one would prove that any finite sequence of digits occurs in pi. I am sure someone tackled that long long ago. Cheers!
| 751 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:28:41am |
Statue of Liberty Crown to Reopen Fourth of July
For the first time since it was closed following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the observation deck in the crown of New York City's famed Statue of Liberty will reopen to the public on July 4.
| 752 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:29:11am |
re: #748 iceweasel
Sounds right. Looking at it I can see that it must be coming from the second set of digits in the key-- that is, the number of letters added to each line in each instance IS a number that appears in the second set of digits-- but the pattern for application isn't leaping out at me.
It isn't clear, and yet I think you need to know how many letters are added on the end, unless you already know how to break up the strings of letters into rows and know the length of rows. But the additional letters will mess that up. Coding forward seems easier than decoding.
| 753 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:29:28am |
re: #749 MandyManners
I'm glad they're helping other people; they might have to pretend they invented it to get motivated..
| 754 |
Wendya Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:29:41am |
re: #746 jaunte
Everyone was requested to bring canned goods to our April 15th protest to support our local food bank. Sounds like the left is a day late and a dollar short once again.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:29:45am |
re: #749 MandyManners
I got news for Rev. Phat: Donating to help others is NOT socialism.
It's tongue in cheek. They know it's not socialism, but find it funny when others accuse them of socialism.
| 756 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:30:21am |
3 Wood - received and replied to your e-mail. I'm so sorry.
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vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:30:23am |
re: #750 Stuart Leviton
Bulls eye, my friend. Your initial point got me wondering how one would prove that any finite sequence of digits occurs in pi. I am sure someone tackled that long long ago. Cheers!
Ah, see, that's just it. As I recall from my college days, you cannot compute any sequence of pi without computing all the digits between it and the decimal point. There are various ways to represent pi that make the calculation better or faster, but you absolutely have to calculate all the numbers in order to find the sequence.
| 758 |
Ateam Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:30:44am |
re: #746 jaunte
WHAT? ain't they happy, exited, like yo here?
(if not for US birthday, at least 4 BBQ & booze?...)
| 759 |
Lincolntf Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:31:53am |
re: #749 MandyManners
Right, now if they wanted to break into my house, steal my food and then share it amongst themselves, THAT would be Socialism.
| 760 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:32:24am |
I have a large lump of fur that has fallen asleep on my lap, and I had not even realized it.
| 762 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:33:59am |
He was called in to help the firm after six staff members were forced into taking redundancies at the start of the credit crunch.
Mr. Taylor told them that, by stripping off their clothes, staff could also strip away inhibitions and talk to each other more openly and honestly.He said: "Inviting an organisation to go naked is the most extreme technique I've used. It may seem weird but it works. It's the ultimate expression of trust in yourself and each other."
Despite some initial reluctance, nearly all the staff took off all their clothes – except for one man, who wore a posing pouch, and one of two female workers, who kept on black underwear.
Sam Jackson, 23, the house manager, was the only woman to go fully naked. She said: "It was brilliant. Now that we've seen each other naked, there are no barriers.
SNIP
| 763 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:34:23am |
re: #749 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy - you don't understand - for PRIVATE citizens to extend help to those in need is really kinda contrary to socialism - apparently the Rev Phat doesn't understand socialism either - HEY REV - you are supposed to look only to the government for aid, you dumbshit.
| 766 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:35:18am |
re: #764 MandyManners
Oops. I messed up the formatting.
Well, there was nothing you could do with the idea.
| 767 |
Irish Rose Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:36:22am |
Good morning, dear friends.. happy July 4th weekend!
I've posted some good news on my blog this morning about my son, for those who have been praying for and supporting my family.
What's on everyones' plate this holiday weekend?
| 768 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:37:45am |
re: #762 MandyManners
I don't think taking off clothes is seriously going to help with the credit crunch.
The show might provide some entertainment for the workers who were laid off; at least they missed the chance to be on this particular show.
| 769 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:37:47am |
re: #751 Killgore Trout
Hey Killgore- good morning and that's some great news!
Thank you!
| 770 |
Stuart Leviton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:38:36am |
re: #757 vxbush
Ah, see, that's just it. As I recall from my college days, you cannot compute any sequence of pi without computing all the digits between it and the decimal point.
You've gotten me curious, and I thank you for that. If I understand you correctly, then - based on the information you have at hand (what I know is even less) - no one has abstractly looked at the question of finite sequences in pi. You've also gotten me curious to read a bit on pi. (It's a pi in my face moment!)
| 771 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:39:03am |
re: #760 vxbush
*snicker* I upset my friends dog yesterday. I was at her place helping her set up her new crackberry and of course he was miffed because I was sitting in his spot. A medium sized dog that sits in a chair while she plays on the internet. So cute to see. I just gave him some attention and he was a little happier.
| 772 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:39:50am |
re: #770 Stuart Leviton
You've gotten me curious, and I thank you for that. If I understand you correctly, then - based on the information you have at hand (what I know is even less) - no one has abstractly looked at the question of finite sequences in pi. You've also gotten me curious to read a bit on pi. (It's a pi in my face moment!)
No, they have studied the way the numbers show up in pi, and from what I recall, all the numbers show up at about the same frequency but never in any type of pattern. In fact, I believe the decimal expansion of pi can be used as a random number generator--but only if you're willing to wait around to get down to the ten billionth digit.
| 773 |
JPL17 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:39:50am |
re: #238 mrshankly01
Okra is wonderful. Fried okra shouldn't be missed.
Reminds me...I gotta go out to our veggie garden to pick our first okra harvest of the season....I absolutely love this "weird" vegetable. Speaking of fried okra, do you ever fry it with garlic? I found a simple but incredibly good recipe called "Crizette's Garlic Fried Okra" in Sylvia's Family Soul Food Cookbook....You just heat 1/4 cup olive oil in a large skillet, throw in 2-3 teaspoons of minced garlic along with 1 lb. of sliced okra (about 1/4 to 1/2 inch wide), 1/2 teaspoon Goya Adobo Seasoning (the kind with the red cap -- i.e., no cumin), 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/2 teaspoon pepper, and stir-fry for 5 minutes. Incredibly delicious!
| 774 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:39:57am |
re: #767 Irish Rose
Good morning Irish Rose - Happy 3rd of July! LOL!
Hope you're well, and I'll go over to your blog in a minute!
| 775 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:41:01am |
re: #771 BlueCanuck
*snicker* I upset my friends dog yesterday. I was at her place helping her set up her new crackberry and of course he was miffed because I was sitting in his spot. A medium sized dog that sits in a chair while she plays on the internet. So cute to see. I just gave him some attention and he was a little happier.
You know, you may have a point. I am sitting in her chair, where she always naps. I may be intruding on her spot.
| 776 |
Vicious Michigan Union Thug Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:41:44am |
OK bye now! I decided to leave my laptop at home! I love you all, but I want to spend some time with the grandbabies.
| 777 |
Irish Rose Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:42:33am |
re: #762 MandyManners
Could this be the start of a new workplace trend?
| 778 |
Stuart Leviton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:44:52am |
re: #772 vxbush
No, they have studied the way the numbers show up in pi, and from what I recall, all the numbers show up at about the same frequency but never in any type of pattern. In fact, I believe the decimal expansion of pi can be used as a random number generator--but only if you're willing to wait around to get down to the ten billionth digit.
That's way cool that pi can make for a good random number generator. Just curious, is there a special class of numbers within the set of irrational numbers that would make for a 'good' random number generator? Need the number be transcendental? I am appreciative of your insights.
| 779 |
BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:44:54am |
re: #762 MandyManners
What a wacky story. Hmmm, I notice this from your link:
"Staff at a design and marketing company in Newcastle spent a day working together naked after being told it would improve their morale."
and
The experiment in April was filmed for a one-off TV show, Naked Office, to be screened on July 9 on cable channel Virgin 1.
Could this all be a marketing trick designed to promote their company in some weird way?
| 780 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:45:25am |
Rejected Statue of Liberty commercialism:
(Fund raising for the pedestal of the statue was not going well in the beginning...)
At this point, the makers of Castoria laxative stepped forward to help. They offered to chip in $25,000, "provided that for the period of one year, you permit us to place across the top of the pedestal the word ‘Castoria.,’" they wrote. "Thus art and science, the symbol of liberty to man, and of health to his children, would more closely enshrined in the hearts of our people." The offer of a laxative for Miss Liberty was politely declined; Castoria kept its money.
[Link: www.neatorama.com...]
| 781 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:45:33am |
re: #767 Irish Rose
Hey Rose! I just read your blog post and am glad to hear about your son - but when I went to leave a comment (on two different occasions) I received a message that Internet Explorer can't open this web page (your commnets page) so I'll just say I hope you and your sweetie have a GREAT Fourth of July and that you get to have some fun when your son comes home!
God Bless our Brave Troops!
| 782 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:46:26am |
re: #778 Stuart Leviton
That's way cool that pi can make for a good random number generator. Just curious, is there a special class of numbers within the set of irrational numbers that would make for a 'good' random number generator? Need the number be transcendental? I am appreciative of your insights.
I think transcendentalism is enough, but remember, i haven't studied this for about two dozen years. I'd have to go research it again to make sure I'm right. But irrationalism isn't, because you could have something like this:
01001000100001000001.....
in an irrational number, but that still has a pattern that wouldn't make it a good random number generator.
| 783 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:48:27am |
re: #762 MandyManners
LOL! I think it's best for all concerned that I had to retire when I did.
Gales of laughter are NOT conducive to a productive workplace!
| 785 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:50:16am |
re: #784 Stuart Leviton
Thank you and bless you vxbush.
I'm sure you'll get better information from Mathworld than from me, but I hope it helps.
| 786 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:52:01am |
re: #780 jaunte Hooray for them for rejecting that offer!
And thanks to you for finding and posting that story!
| 787 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:52:29am |
Report: U.S. to block Iran sanctions at G8 summit
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi hinted in a newspaper interview earlier in the week that the G8 is due to decide on new financial sanctions against the Islamic Republic. Berlusconi disclosed that he had spoken with the heads of the G8 nations and has discussed such steps with them.
According to the Italian prime minister, "the general leaning [among G8 leaders] is toward sanctions."
However, diplomatic sources in New York reported that American officials are working behind the scenes to prevent new sanctions from being imposed against Iran.
U.S. officials claimed that a tough stance toward Iran could backfire, bringing about an opposite outcome to that desired by those who support such measures.
/we have become France, before Sarkozy, dig up Saddam and put him back in power
| 788 |
Flyers1974 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:52:58am |
re: #730 realwest
WOW - what a tough dude he was - check out wiki's entry on him: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Just incredibly tough. And mostly right about the Jungle being neutral.
The only negative about the book is that Chapman wasn't a very philosophical guy - I'd like to know what he was thinking when he was captured by the Japs, possibly dying from host of diseases, all that kind of stuff. Another interesting thing he describes is his work with the Chinese Communists in Malaysia. They were very brave and eager, but cultural issues kept them from being more effective - i.e., Chapman was a military expert, but the Chinese officers couldn't be seen taking instruction from him as that would be a sign of ignorance. Lot of info on the Chinese mindset.
| 789 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:52:58am |
| 790 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:54:17am |
re: #786 realwest
That whole story is pretty good; The chintziness of the Congress then is quite a contrast with today:
In 1883 the U.S. Congress voted down a fresh attempt to provide $100,000 toward the cost of the pedestal; the vote so outraged Joseph Pulitzer, publisher of the New York World, that he launched a campaign in the pages of his newspaper to raise the money.
"The Bartholdi statue will soon be on its way to enlighten the world," he told his readers, "more appropriate would be the gift of a statue of parsimony than a statue of liberty, if this is the appreciation we show of a friendly nation’s sentiment and generosity." After two months of non-stop haranguing, he managed to raise exactly $135.75 of the $200,000 needed to build the pedestal.[Link: www.neatorama.com...]
| 791 |
Irish Rose Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:56:22am |
re: #781 realwest
Thanks, realwest.
I just checked and it seems to be working fine.
| 792 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:56:29am |
re: #790 jaunte
That whole story is pretty good; The chintziness of the Congress then is quite a contrast with today:
Whoa. See, why didn't they teach us U.S. History like *this*? I would have actually paid attention.
| 793 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:56:38am |
re: #777 Irish Rose
Could this be the start of a new workplace trend?
(thinking about some of my coworkers) I certainly hope not.
| 794 |
VegasRick Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:56:59am |
re: #787 Killian Bundy
Report: U.S. to block Iran sanctions at G8 summit
/we have become France, before Sarkozy, dig up Saddam and put him back in power
Party like it's 1979.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
| 795 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:57:47am |
re: #787 Killian Bundy
Good morning Killian. That story is just an indication - following as it does Obama's apparent inability to use the words "Freedom" and "Democracy" when he finally got "tough" in his language to the Iranian regime - that the Administration - including, perhaps in this case especially - how STUPID our State Department really is.
WTF is wrong with this Administraion regarding Iran?
After seeing and hearing how the current regime in Iran beat, shot and killed it's own citizens, and is now apparently going to put some of the "dissidents" on show trials before executing them, how can we, in all decency, even speak to the government of Iran?
| 796 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:58:16am |
re: #792 vxbush
Somebody forgot history is stories about real people?
| 797 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 8:59:21am |
re: #796 jaunte
Somebody forgot history is stories about real people?
I don't know about anyone else's US history teacher, but mine was so dull and boring I hated it. I played with my brand new TI calculator instead.
| 798 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:02:07am |
re: #797 vxbush
Most of my college elective were history courses, (and highly entertaining) because the profs were all enthusiasts.
| 799 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:02:08am |
re: #787 Killian Bundy
Report: U.S. to block Iran sanctions at G8 summit
/we have become France, before Sarkozy, dig up Saddam and put him back in power
I reckon all those dead people are not signs that ShortShit's fist still is clenched.
| 800 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:02:37am |
Hey 3 wood - are you still out here? Just sent you an e-mail about 15 minutes ago about The List.
| 801 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:03:45am |
re: #798 jaunte
Most of my college elective were history courses, (and highly entertaining) because the profs were all enthusiasts.
I somehow ended up taking all my college history courses from one professor, who was kind of a scream. He was a bit addled, but a great enthusiast. His big interest was the shroud of Turin, so I took his middle ages course and he got to talk about it extensively. That was interesting. But high school was terrible.
| 802 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:04:50am |
re: #792 vxbush
Whoa. See, why didn't they teach us U.S. History like *this*? I would have actually paid attention.
Until recently, Congress was inhabited by a bunch of old skinflints. They were famously opposed to the Lewis and Clarke expedition, and carped endlessly over it's cost. When the expedition returned, Congress demanded that all of it's equipment be returned to the government; it was then resold to recoup costs, depriving us of priceless historical artifacts but helping to keep the Federal budget under constraint.
| 803 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:04:57am |
re: #798 jaunte
Most of my college elective were history courses, (and highly entertaining) because the profs were all enthusiasts.
Same with me and my professors! Course I WAS a history and Political Science dual major (today they'd probably call it "Government Studies" or some such) and the professors - all of 'em - were extremely knowledgeable and enthusiastic!
| 804 |
BatGuano Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:05:38am |
| 805 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:07:17am |
re: #804 BatGuano
My first calculator:
[Link: datamath.org...]
You know, looking over that, now I'm thinking maybe I had a Casio first. It did trig calculations, but I can't find a TI one that looks like what I had. Odd.
| 806 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:07:27am |
re: #802 SixDegrees
Congress back then actually did something (admittedly stupid) to keep the Federal Budget under constraint? Wow, what a novel idea!
/
| 807 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:07:48am |
re: #801 vxbush
I had a Catholic high school history teacher, Coach Spoon, who insisted all his students do a detailed report on all the Popes. He was a hoot. I don't think any public school district in the country would let any of their teachers get away with that sort of focus on a single religion now.
| 808 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:08:39am |
re: #807 jaunte
I had a Catholic high school history teacher, Coach Spoon, who insisted all his students do a detailed report on all the Popes. He was a hoot. I don't think any public school district in the country would let any of their teachers get away with that sort of focus on a single religion now.
That might have been preferable to what I had to endure.
| 810 |
jaunte Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:10:47am |
Well, time to go get ready for cookout; have a good day everyone, and give a thought to our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen this weekend.
| 812 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:12:57am |
re: #810 jaunte
Well, time to go get ready for cookout; have a good day everyone, and give a thought to our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen this weekend.
Indeed. Prayers should be lifted for them all.
| 813 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:13:00am |
Chevron Refinery Expansion Halted; 1,000 Jobs To Be Lost
The Chevron refinery in Richmond released 100 workers Thursday following a Contra Costa County Superior Court judge's ruling Wednesday ordering the refinery to stop construction of its Energy and Hydrogen Renewal Project, Chevron spokesman Brent Tippen said.The refinery expects to release a total of about 1000 workers over the next 60 days as it demobilizes construction activities at the plant, Tippen said.
Tippen estimated that the ruling would result in a loss of about 1 million labor hours and approximately $50 million to $75 million in income to the workforce in Richmond and the county within the next year.
The city will also lose $61 million in various community benefits, Tippen said.
Tippen did not disclose how much money Chevron is expected to lose as a result of the order, but said that construction of the hydrogen plant and hydrogen purity components had been well underway. Construction of the new cogeneration facility hadn't yet begun.
The project, which broke ground in September after a permitting process that took more than three years, included replacing the refinery's 1960s-era hydrogen plant and its 1930s-era power plant. The Richmond City Council finally approved the project by a 5-4 vote.
Judge Barbara Zuniga's order to halt construction came after a ruling in June in which she found that an environmental impact report on the project failed to disclose whether it would enable the refinery to process heavier crude oil, failed to analyze a proposed hydrogen pipeline and illegally deferred greenhouse gas mitigation plans.
/twenty years from now, we'll all be huddled around the communal bonfire, laughing about this
| 814 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:14:05am |
re: #802 SixDegrees
Until recently, Congress was inhabited by a bunch of old skinflints. They were famously opposed to the Lewis and Clarke expedition, and carped endlessly over it's cost. When the expedition returned, Congress demanded that all of it's equipment be returned to the government; it was then resold to recoup costs, depriving us of priceless historical artifacts but helping to keep the Federal budget under constraint.
Stephen Ambrose's book about that adventure is well worth reading...tremendous story
| 815 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:14:06am |
re: #813 Killian Bundy
Chevron Refinery Expansion Halted; 1,000 Jobs To Be Lost
/twenty years from now, we'll all be huddled around the communal bonfire, laughing about this
And dare I guess who filed the lawsuit against Chevron?
| 817 |
haakondahl Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:15:20am |
re: #802 SixDegrees
Until recently, Congress was inhabited by a bunch of old skinflints. They were famously opposed to the Lewis and Clarke expedition, and carped endlessly over it's cost. When the expedition returned, Congress demanded that all of it's equipment be returned to the government; it was then resold to recoup costs, depriving us of priceless historical artifacts but helping to keep the Federal budget under constraint.
Two updings for use of "skinflint", but docked you one for using the wrong "it's".
| 818 |
haakondahl Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:16:55am |
| 821 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:18:38am |
re: #815 vxbush
From Killian's link:
Communities for a Better Environment, Asian Pacific Environmental Network and the West County Toxics Coalition -- plaintiffs in the lawsuit
Course you realize that California is just overflowing with jobs and tax revenues, right?
/heavy.
| 822 |
VegasRick Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:19:15am |
re: #815 vxbush
And dare I guess who filed the lawsuit against Chevron?
"The residents of Richmond do not accept letting Chevron continue to poison our community," 33-year Richmond resident and APEN senior organizer Torm Nompraseurt said in a news release from Earthjustice, the law firm representing the plaintiffs in the case. "This is a victory for the grassroots, and the people who have been suffering the health impacts of the refinery for the past 100 years."
"Yea! We won." "What? We have to move because you just lost your job?" "Bummer, man"
*dumbfucks
| 825 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:20:04am |
Chevron 2011.
/used to be a headquartered in the United States
| 826 |
Racer X Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:21:53am |
re: #787 Killian Bundy
Report: U.S. to block Iran sanctions at G8 summit
/we have become France, before Sarkozy, dig up Saddam and put him back in power
I hope those voted against McCain because...
Oh never mind.
| 827 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:21:57am |
re: #823 buzzsawmonkey
California really has a problem connecting cause and effect.
cause-liberal leadership
effect-$40bil debt
result-albusteve to the rescue
| 828 |
soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:22:25am |
re: #823 buzzsawmonkey
California really has a problem connecting cause and effect.
And the rest of the country is fast becoming like California.
| 829 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:22:43am |
re: #823 buzzsawmonkey
California really has a problem connecting cause and effect.
Hi buzz! If ONLY those were the only real problems California had.
Oh and btw, that was Judge Barbara Zuniga's decision. Now I'm not sure if she's a Latina or not but she sure showed more "empathy" than an old white guy would have.
| 830 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:23:57am |
Halliburton already reincorporated in Dubai years ago to get away from the bull[expletive deleted].
/and many more U.S. corporations, for the sake of shareholders, will follow
| 831 |
Racer X Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:25:14am |
re: #830 Killian Bundy
Halliburton already reincorporated in Dubai years ago to get away from the bull[expletive deleted].
/and many more U.S. corporations, for the sake of shareholders, will follow
It's America's independence day celebration tomorrow.
Why do I feel like crying?
| 832 |
debutaunt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:25:20am |
re: #823 buzzsawmonkey
California really has a problem connecting cause and effect.
We are the cute canaries in the mineshaft that was the golden state.
| 833 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:25:31am |
re: #828 soxfan4life
And the rest of the country is fast becoming like California.
lot's of refugees here in New Mexico
| 834 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:25:35am |
re: #830 Killian Bundy
Halliburton already reincorporated in Dubai years ago to get away from the bull[expletive deleted].
/and many more U.S. corporations, for the sake of shareholders, will follow
Sigh. Geez Killian, you're sure full of good news today.
/blaming messenger here!
| 836 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:26:26am |
re: #831 Racer X
It's America's independence day celebration tomorrow.
Why do I feel like crying?
whatever it is I feel the same way...I have a dull ache in my heart
| 837 |
BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:26:54am |
re: #742 jaunte
I haven't read Crooks and Liars much, so I thought the comments and the linked blogs would give me a general sense of what the thinking was on the other side of some of the issues discussed here. Lots of people feeling victimized by forces beyond their control on both sides, but the tendency 'over there' is to blame the 'wingnuts.' Similar to here, but not nearly as many comments about taking care of one's own needs.
Hey jaunte-- sorry, I stepped away and missed this.
The problem with C&L is that it's a group blog, and each of the individual bloggers does tend to attract a somewhat different group pf commentators. The one you happened to link -- bluegirl-- i have to say I consider kind of a lightweight (if you click her name you'll see all posts by her and you'll see what I'm talking about). I'd expect comments in posts by her to also tend to be on the more frivolous side.
The only person at C&L I consistently can recommend (and I recommend him very highly) is Dave Neiwert, a freelance journalist who has done excellent work for years on the extremist right, going back to the Patriot movement in the 90's and Timothy McVeigh.
I'll give you a list sometime of other blogs that I think give a better representation of what 'the left' is up too; a lot of the blogs C&L links now (and therefore also the commentators on them) are no longer that active or influential or representative, in my opinion.
Have a great fourth!
| 838 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:27:06am |
| 839 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:27:39am |
| 840 |
BatGuano Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:28:06am |
Speaking of cause and effect: Anyone remember the luxury tax of 1991?
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
| 841 |
Throbert McGee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:28:55am |
This Sumatran Orangutan inflicts itsineffableeffingcuteness upon you
There, fixed it.
| 843 |
soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:30:00am |
re: #840 BatGuano
Speaking of cause and effect: Anyone remember the luxury tax of 1991?
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
But this time it will work.....realllllllly.
| 844 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:30:05am |
| 845 |
quiet man Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:30:13am |
You have to remember that We Americans have faced all sorts of trouble and won...Even if only by the skin of our teeth amd the blood of our protectors.
Think of the idea that America's freedom means your own personal ability to own your mind, body, and direction. Think of what has happened in the past when the American flag has moved intop places where these luxuries are missing.
Let your heart soar instead, knowing the truth.
| 847 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:30:29am |
re: #814 albusteve
Stephen Ambrose's book about that adventure is well worth reading...tremendous story
Absolutely. Undaunted Courage comes highly recommended.
Just one of the many historical tidbits: The Expedition was incredibly demanding, physically, and it is documented that each member ate on the order of 10 pounds of meat per day when it was available just to replace the calories lost due to exertion.
| 848 |
soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:32:08am |
re: #844 Killian Bundy
Do we have to take her back?
| 849 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:32:36am |
| 852 |
BatGuano Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:34:50am |
re: #843 soxfan4life
But this time it will work.....realllllllly.
Clap if you believe in fairies. don't let Tink Die! :)
| 853 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:34:54am |
re: #847 SixDegrees
Absolutely. Undaunted Courage comes highly recommended.
Just one of the many historical tidbits: The Expedition was incredibly demanding, physically, and it is documented that each member ate on the order of 10 pounds of meat per day when it was available just to replace the calories lost due to exertion.
only one man lost on the entire trip...I liked the way Ambrose contrasted Lewis and Clark and how well they worked together....an excellent example of superior leadership...the men would have followed either into hell itself
| 854 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:34:55am |
re: #844 Killian Bundy
Well I can't blame Israel for that, but they shoulda released her to Gaza for which she apparently has such feeling.
I did note that in your link she was identified as a six term Congresswoman from Georgia, a Democrat.
At least they identified her party affiliation.
| 855 |
quiet man Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:35:13am |
re: #851 buzzsawmonkey
She needs an electrical socket ASAP or she will lose her hairstyle for good.
Sad. really.
| 856 |
soxfan4life Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:35:47am |
Wonder how the creationists will explain this one.
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
| 857 |
quiet man Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:36:32am |
re: #853 albusteve
Wasn't L & C caught by the spanish, held for a bit then released?
| 858 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:36:38am |
re: #855 quiet man
She needs an electrical socket ASAP or she will lose her hairstyle for good.
Sad. really.
Fork-in-Toaster Salon.
| 859 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:37:03am |
re: #846 buzzsawmonkey
You're suggesting that this might be an example of "Latina wisdom," coming soon to a Supreme Court near you?
I am indeed, sir.
| 860 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:37:40am |
re: #847 SixDegrees
Absolutely. Undaunted Courage comes highly recommended.
Just one of the many historical tidbits: The Expedition was incredibly demanding, physically, and it is documented that each member ate on the order of 10 pounds of meat per day when it was available just to replace the calories lost due to exertion.
By the way - if you like this sort of thing, I would also recommend The Exploration of the Colorado River and it's Canyons, by John Wesley Powell, the first American to lead an expedition through the Grand Canyon and live to tell about it.
About halfway through the book, after reading about Powell's almost daily surveying climbs from the river to higher vantage points near the rim, he casually makes mention of a fall that left him dangling over a few thousand feet of air by one arm - his only arm, as it turns out, as the other was lost during the Civil War.
Someone really needs to make a movie out of this one. It's astonishing it hasn't been done already.
| 861 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:37:45am |
re: #762 MandyManners
Sam Jackson, 23, the house manager, was the only woman to go fully naked. She said: "It was brilliant. Now that we've seen each other naked, there are no barriers.
SNIP
when I went to a nude beach in spain back in 1992, i was struck by the fact that the only people who walked around naked were NOT the people I wanted to see naked. this bummed me out to no end.
| 863 |
VegasRick Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:38:32am |
re: #846 buzzsawmonkey
You're suggesting that this might be an example of "Latina
wisdomJUSTICE," coming soon to a Supreme Court near you?
More like it.
| 864 |
quiet man Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:38:42am |
re: #858 MandyManners
Fork-in-Toaster Salon.
Only for those bread for hot hairstyles..todays special: the Tesla
hot wax treatment
| 865 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:39:59am |
re: #850 quiet man
Great city..I will always love Santa Fe
most people do...SF is quite unique...I have to take the tourists up there when they visit....and I never ever miss a chance to visit Evangelo's and have some booze....one of the greatest bar's in all of America
| 866 |
quiet man Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:40:06am |
I would like the tesla hot wax for my roadster, if I had a Tesla roadster that is.
| 867 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:40:26am |
re: #861 _RememberTonyC
Go to the beeches in France, Greece or Spain. Muuuuch better.
| 868 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:40:29am |
re: #853 albusteve
only one man lost on the entire trip...I liked the way Ambrose contrasted Lewis and Clark and how well they worked together....an excellent example of superior leadership...the men would have followed either into hell itself
The same is true of Powell's book - the only members lost were a pair who left the expedition, and were mistaken for two white men who had raped an Indian woman a few weeks earlier. White men being scarce in those parts, this case of mistaken identity did not end well.
The remainder made it through, despite several catastrophes along the way, largely due to Powell's leadership.
| 869 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:41:04am |
| 871 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:41:27am |
re: #848 soxfan4life
Do we have to take her back?
I not only want her back, I'm willing to give her a microphone, a big ass amp,
and a high traffic streetcorner so she can get her freak on.
She's a good ad for what not to be.
/ok never mind shut up and go away
| 872 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:41:52am |
re: #857 quiet man
Wasn't L & C caught by the spanish, held for a bit then released?
don't think so...
| 874 |
vxbush Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:42:29am |
re: #869 Killian Bundy
White House garden tests positive for lead
/heh
Well, that doesn't surprise me. How much paint has been used on that building over the decades?
| 875 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:43:38am |
re: #848 soxfan4life
Do we have to take her back?
the POTUS will probably honor her in a Rose Garden ceremony
| 877 |
debutaunt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:44:08am |
| 878 |
Ateam Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:44:11am |
| 879 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:44:32am |
re: #869 Killian Bundy
White House garden tests positive for lead
/heh
The White House says its high-profile garden on the South Lawn has tested positive for lead although it is not at dangerous levels.
The same "food activists" who are praising the garden are, in most cases, the same activists who claim that there is no safe level for lead, period, end of story, and are demanding that this draconian, impossible to meet standard be imposed throughout the nation, making every building and every square inch of soil subject to remediation or abandonment.
| 880 |
BlueCanuck Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:44:34am |
re: #869 Killian Bundy
So, what does this mean for all those tasty vegetables that they planted?
| 881 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:45:37am |
re: #862 buzzsawmonkey
Actually, I misspoke.
/Halliburton is still a U.S. corporation, at least for now, they just moved their main headquarters to Dubai
| 882 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:45:42am |
re: #876 buzzsawmonkey
Obama, pressing for speedy passage of legislation, says, "We have to get the lead out."
Petal to the metal.
| 883 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:45:50am |
re: #869 Killian Bundy
White House spokeswoman Katie McCormick-Lelyveld said Thursday that tests on the soil in the White House garden detected lead levels of 93 parts per million. Soil is considered unsafe for growing vegetables when it reaches more than 500 parts per million.
That's actually pretty low. Most normal yards will test much higher than that because of lead based paints, etc,
| 884 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:45:57am |
oooh.
Interesting:
| 885 |
debutaunt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:45:58am |
re: #880 BlueCanuck
So, what does this mean for all those tasty vegetables that they planted?
Gonna sit heavy in yer tummy.
| 886 |
VegasRick Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:45:59am |
re: #880 BlueCanuck
So, what does this mean for all those tasty vegetables that they planted?
Sell them to the Chinese.
| 887 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:46:07am |
re: #867 Killgore Trout
Go to the beeches in France, Greece or Spain. Muuuuch better.
I was at a beach in Spain (Citges sp?) ... there were plenty of hotties, but sadly they were not uncovered :(
| 888 |
Throbert McGee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:46:46am |
re: #7 Catttt
I wonder if adult orangs are as nasty as adult chimps?No, they are very sweet. They are very much nicer than chimpanzees.
Hmmm, so it's kind of like a rat/hamster thing.
People tend to think of hamsters as cute, while rats are nasty vermin; but anyone who's kept both as pets, or worked in a pet store that stocked both, will tell you that rats are the sweet-tempered cuddly ones, while hamsters are grouchy little biters.
(The sole virtue of hamsters compared to rats is that hamsters, being desert-evolved, produce very little urine, and very dry turds -- so their cages don't get stinky as fast. You have to be a lot more diligent about cleaning a rat's cage and replacing the soiled litter!)
| 889 |
debutaunt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:46:52am |
| 890 |
unreconstructed rebel Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:47:38am |
re: #869 Killian Bundy
White House garden tests positive for lead
/heh
re: #874 vxbush
Well, that doesn't surprise me. How much paint has been used on that building over the decades?
So, the White House is just figuring out the building is 200 years old?
/I guess this means don't eat the tomatoes. HA!
| 892 |
SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:48:03am |
re: #880 BlueCanuck
So, what does this mean for all those tasty vegetables that they planted?
It means they'll give them away, but Michelle won't be feeding them to her own kids.
| 893 |
albusteve Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:48:17am |
| 894 |
debutaunt Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:50:01am |
re: #892 SixDegrees
It means they'll give them away, but Michelle won't be feeding them to her own kids.
Low-lead arugula from Whole Foods.
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quiet man Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:50:04am |
The lead does explain the wackiness from the white house we see sometimes.
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MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:50:09am |
re: #888 Throbert McGee
Hmmm, so it's kind of like a rat/hamster thing.
People tend to think of hamsters as cute, while rats are nasty vermin; but anyone who's kept both as pets, or worked in a pet store that stocked both, will tell you that rats are the sweet-tempered cuddly ones, while hamsters are grouchy little biters.
(The sole virtue of hamsters compared to rats is that hamsters, being desert-evolved, produce very little urine, and very dry turds -- so their cages don't get stinky as fast. You have to be a lot more diligent about cleaning a rat's cage and replacing the soiled litter!)
Petey's gonna' kick your butt for that.
| 897 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:50:18am |
Don't know if this has been posted yet or not but according to Rasmussen,
Plans for General Motors Might Run Afoul of Public Opinion
Friday, July 03, 2009 General Motors laid out a plan in bankruptcy court Thursday that includes an Initial Public Offering of stock next year. When the troubled automaker comes out of bankruptcy this month or next, the federal government will be the majority owner. According to the Wall Street Journal, the plan envisions the government ending its ownership position no later than 2018. That’s a lot longer timetable than most Americans are thinking about.
Rasmussen Reports national polling has found that 80% want the government to sell its stake as soon as possible, and 64% favor a proposal that would force the government to sell the auto company within a year. Even in Michigan where the troubled auto giant is headquartered, 69% want the government to get out of auto company ownership as soon as possible.
A plurality (42%) favors giving the GM stock directly to the American people rather than selling it to private investors.
But while wanting government ownership to end, the American people have low expectations. Just 33% say it’s even somewhat likely that the federal government will ever get back the bailout money provided to GM. A solid plurality expect the quality of GM cars to get worse with the government as the majority owner of the company. Only 42% of those who currently own a GM car now say they are even somewhat likely to buy a GM product for their next car.
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:50:57am |
| 900 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:51:27am |
re: #888 Throbert McGee
Hmmm, so it's kind of like a rat/hamster thing.
People tend to think of hamsters as cute, while rats are nasty vermin; but anyone who's kept both as pets, or worked in a pet store that stocked both, will tell you that rats are the sweet-tempered cuddly ones, while hamsters are grouchy little biters.
Rats are the better pets, I've had both.
/if a rat escapes you don't find it burrowed into a couch weeks later
| 901 |
subsailor68 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:51:28am |
Morning all! Tomorrow is Independence Day - hot dogs, burgers, tater salad, slaw, ice cream, fireworks - the whole nine yards.
But what are we celebrating? Oh yeah, a bunch of guys - most of whom had money and position - who woke up and said, "this can't stand. We know we're risking everything, including our own heads, but freedom is more important than our safety and well-being." So, they sat down, wrote out a pretty amazing document, and put the King on notice that the good times were over.
And thirteen years later we had a Constitution. Ain't if that ain't a reason to celebrate, I don't know what is!
Oh yeah, I'm about to go out and get the ribs, tater salad, slaw, and even some ice cream - lay out a big spread for a group of friends, and all watch the fireworks together.
Because somehow I just know those guys - with all they risked and sacrificed - would be the first ones to line up with paper plates and plastic forks to say:
"Now this is one hell of a party!"
Happy 4th everyone!
| 902 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:52:49am |
re: #887 _RememberTonyC
I was at a beach in Spain (Citges sp?) ... there were plenty of hotties, but sadly they were not uncovered :(
South Beach is only topless, but plenty of hotties considering all the modeling agencies on and around the beach. They out number Eurotrash 5 to 1.
| 903 |
Stuart Leviton Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:53:00am |
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Wendya Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:53:11am |
re: #795 realwest
WTF is wrong with this Administraion regarding Iran?
It's not just Iran. Obama seems to prefer the status quo over any changes in foreign governments, including preventing a Chavez style coup in Honduras. What the hell is he thinking? Is he worried that someone else will get media coverage and "distract" the public from the headlong rush into his policy of the day?
| 905 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:53:59am |
re: #884 reine.de.tout
Hi reine! I thought it was pretty interesting that Obama is NOT taking his Secretary of State to Russia with him.
Probably just because Hillary has a broken elbow.
/
| 906 |
MandyManners Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:54:22am |
| 907 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:54:35am |
re: #883 Killgore Trout
That's actually pretty low. Most normal yards will test much higher than that because of lead based paints, etc,
Link?
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SixDegrees Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:56:23am |
re: #884 reine.de.tout
oooh.
Interesting:
Not surprising. 0bama put Clinton in the SoS post for a very good reason - it got her out of the Senate, where she was free to do whatever she wanted, and made him her direct boss, a position where she has to do what he tells her to do.
Willy, of course, is under no such constraint, and will actively work to undermine 0 in order to prepare the ground for Hillary's next Presidential run, which both Clinton's would much rather take place sooner rather than later - say in 2012.
| 909 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:57:36am |
re: #901 subsailor68
Hey sub, Happy Independence Day to you too!
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subsailor68 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 9:59:42am |
re: #909 realwest
Hey sub, Happy Independence Day to you too!
Hi RW! And right back at ya! I think I remember you saying you and your Mom were gonna celebrate at home, and watch the fireworks on television. Two things:
I hope you both have a wonderful holiday, and
I hope ya put out the bucks for a big screen HDTV - so the fireworks look terrific!
;-)
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realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:00:15am |
Uhre: #904 Wendya
It's not just Iran. Obama seems to prefer the status quo over any changes in foreign governments, including preventing a Chavez style coup in Honduras. What the hell is he thinking? Is he worried that someone else will get media coverage and "distract" the public from the headlong rush into his policy of the day?
Uh, no that can't be it. Anything (Michael Jackson comes to mind) that distracts the public from his policies - especially his domestic policies - has to be a GOOD thing for him.
What else could it be do you think?
| 912 |
subsailor68 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:00:22am |
Well all, it's time to hit the store. BBIAB!
| 913 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:01:12am |
re: #906 MandyManners
Petey's never bitten anyone.
/rats are much more intelligent and entertaining, hamsters are pretty dense as far as rodents go
| 914 |
realwest Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:02:07am |
re: #910 subsailor68
Hey thanks sub - but we ain't got the bucks for a big screen TV to watch 'em - but we'll make do with what we have!
| 915 |
haakondahl Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:04:43am |
re: #904 Wendya
It's not just Iran. Obama seems to prefer the status quo over any changes in foreign governments, including preventing a Chavez style coup in Honduras. What the hell is he thinking? Is he worried that someone else will get media coverage and "distract" the public from the headlong rush into his policy of the day?
This is the State Department approach, in which stability is the goal, not justice, freedom, or self-determination.
The State Department focuses not on people wthin nations, but on the lines between them.
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haakondahl Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:05:09am |
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Wendya Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:06:14am |
re: #911 realwest
Uh
Uh, no that can't be it. Anything (Michael Jackson comes to mind) that distracts the public from his policies - especially his domestic policies - has to be a GOOD thing for him.
What else could it be do you think?
He's a classic narcissistic. He has to be the center of attention and I imagine it frustrates him when anyone else leads the news.
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Wendya Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:07:41am |
re: #915 haakondahl
This is the State Department approach, in which stability is the goal, not justice, freedom, or self-determination.
The State Department focuses not on people wthin nations, but on the lines between them.
Which brings us to the leftist definition of peace being the absence of conflict.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 3, 2009 10:23:54am |
re: #906 MandyManners
My hamsters never bit me either. They're pretty sweet.
The rats were more outgoing, though.
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Throbert McGee Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:10:29am |
re: #906 MandyManners
Petey's never bitten anyone.
I believe you; my hamsters were certainly okay pets in their own way. I'm just saying that compared to pet rats, pet hamsters need more cautious handling, because they're relatively more prone to bite if startled. (If you live singly in the wild, as hamsters do, "bite first and ask questions later" can be a good defensive strategy. But rats have evolved to live in large social groups, so it makes sense that they would be more "provocation-tolerant" than hamsters.)
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