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1 HoosierHoops  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 3:54:15pm

One of my most favorite guitarist

2 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:08:47pm

I can listen to Satriani all day long. Heck, I seem to be one of the three people who like him matched up with the rest of Chickenfoot. Sammy’s voice just works with Joe really well, IMO. Heh, last time I asked if anyone besides me liked them I got a resounding no.

3 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:08:55pm

Love Satch, seen him live four times, a friend of mine did a Satriani song for our high school talent show :D

Love me some Hordes of Locusts

4 rwdflynavy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:09:06pm

Saw him live at Va Tech a long time ago. Love the Satch Man!!

5 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:09:18pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

I don’t mind Chickenfoot, but I’m all about his weirdo instrumentals

6 rwdflynavy  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:10:38pm

Surfing with the Alien is my favorite followed by Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing.

7 researchok  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:11:15pm

Talk about being ‘one with the instrument’.

Wow.

8 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:11:45pm

re: #5 WindUpBird

That’s what I play on long drives. Which reminds me I have got to get the dock for my Ipod to hook up to my chevy truck stereo system. California coastal drives rock.

9 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:12:02pm

Satch fans would do well to check out George Lynch (of Dokken) and specifically this solo record, it’s full on bonkers good

10 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:13:44pm

re: #6 rwdflynavy

Surfing with the Alien is my favorite followed by Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing.

I think my favorite two satch songs are The Forgotten

and Secret Prayer

11 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:15:04pm

re: #5 WindUpBird

I don’t mind Chickenfoot, but I’m all about his weirdo instrumentals

WUB, have you heard “Sail” by AWOLNATION?

12 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:15:24pm

re: #4 rwdflynavy

I saw him at G3 -with Eric Johnson and Kenny Wayne Shepard. Good show, but in the final jam Joe just blew the others away. Eric kept breaking strings, LOL.

13 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:15:49pm

Oops subway time. BBL.

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:16:35pm

re: #11 prairiefire

OH THIS SONG!

I like this and I never knew who did it

15 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:17:43pm

re: #14 WindUpBird

OH THIS SONG!

I like this and I never knew who did it

*smooch* I knew you would like it.

16 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:17:47pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

I saw him at G3 -with Eric Johnson and Kenny Wayne Shepard. Good show, but in the final jam Joe just blew the others away. Eric kept breaking strings, LOL.

I always wanted Buckethead to show up for a G3 *_*

17 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:19:44pm

re: #15 prairiefire

*smooch* I knew you would like it.

^_^

Whatever they have going on with that fuzzed out keyboard sound

18 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:20:04pm

re: #17 WindUpBird

…I want to know how they did that

19 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:22:00pm

re: #18 WindUpBird

…I want to know how they did that

Click through to play “Burn It Down”. It’s great!

20 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:36:48pm

Good news!

Stocks rise for second week as Egypt lifts sentiment


U.S. stocks climbed Friday, concluding a second-straight week of gains at fresh 2 1/2-year closing highs after the resignation of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak removed a layer of uncertainty from global markets.
21 mikefromArlington  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:36:50pm

This guy is great live. I’ve been a fan since around 90 or so.

Between him and Joe Bannamassa, it’s a tough call who’s playing I prefer.

22 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:39:05pm

What are wingnuts reading at CPAC?
5,000 year leap (upper right)

Historical revisionism of Joseph McCarthy (right side)

23 Stanghazi  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:43:13pm

We were talking about the music of CPAC. Here’s an article

[Link: www.salon.com…]

24 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:46:16pm

Fuckin’ facebook…they changed their photo view so you can’t grab the image URL for linking. Now it’s all embedded in a javascript slideshow…fuckers.

25 Stanghazi  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:46:42pm

Katrinskaya Katrin Verclas
by ioerror

RT @DavidMuirABC: IMAGE from space on this day of history in #Tahrir Square [Link: yfrog.com…] #Feb11 #Egypt

26 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:49:45pm

Interesting. I just tried to search yfrog for cpac images…..

Your search term likely relates to adult content. Imageshack does not allow sexually explicit content. For more information, please see our
Terms of Service.


Heh

27 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:51:59pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

We were talking about the music of CPAC. Here’s an article

[Link: www.salon.com…]

Sofie B should stay away from Palin. She’d just quit half way through and leave Sofie unsatisfied.

28 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:54:46pm

The search requests page is now working great. It was missing all the Google searches before — and that’s most of them!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

29 Stanghazi  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:57:56pm

JustAmira Amira Al Hussaini
by AliDahmash

“@KABOBfest: Today Mubarak, tomorrow Wolf Blitzer! #jan25” ——> LOL

30 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:58:16pm

Bought a new lawn mower today - my first. Couldn’t wait to annoy my neighbors at 8am tomorrow, so I went ahead and mowed the front and back yards. Damn it felt good.

31 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 4:58:26pm

re: #28 Charles

The search requests page is now working great. It was missing all the Google searches before — and that’s most of them!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Hmmm…looks like somebody is researching RSM this evening.

32 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:01:55pm

Amazing pics from the past two days.

[Link: www.boston.com…]

33 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:03:16pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

Hmmm…looks like somebody is researching RSM this evening.

Hmmm… interesting…

George Soros NASA
34 compound idaho  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:06:23pm

re: #30 darthstar

Bought a new lawn mower today - my first. Couldn’t wait to annoy my neighbors at 8am tomorrow, so I went ahead and mowed the front and back yards. Damn it felt good.

I used to have a lawn. Haven’t seen it since before Thanksgiving.

35 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:06:38pm

re: #30 darthstar

Bought a new lawn mower today - my first. Couldn’t wait to annoy my neighbors at 8am tomorrow, so I went ahead and mowed the front and back yards. Damn it felt good.

Do what I use to do… I hated mowing, hated the heat, so I’d get out 5-6 am in the morning and do it… with a six pack on the porch… and a beer in hand.

36 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:09:11pm

Yay! I just registered and the newest thread has one of my favorite guitarists!
Karma, baby!

37 Stanghazi  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:09:21pm

re: #32 Jadespring

Amazing pics from the past two days.

[Link: www.boston.com…]

AMAZING!

38 McSpiff  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:09:44pm

re: #36 polypam

Yay! I just registered and the newest thread has one of my favorite guitarists!
Karma, baby!

First upding on the house ;-)

39 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:10:33pm

re: #38 McSpiff

Thanks!

40 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:12:21pm

re: #38 McSpiff

First upding on the house ;-)

Oh stop it…

41 McSpiff  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:13:19pm

re: #40 Walter L. Newton

Oh stop it…

Figured we’d get the welcoming committee out before you scared away another one…

42 darthstar  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:14:57pm

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

Do what I use to do… I hated mowing, hated the heat, so I’d get out 5-6 am in the morning and do it… with a six pack on the porch… and a beer in hand.

I hated mowing when I was a kid because my parents had a huge fucking lawn (about 2-3 hours of mowing)…now it’s MY lawn. It only takes about fifteen or twenty minutes total. But it’s mine.

43 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:18:55pm

re: #34 compound idaho

I used to have a lawn. Haven’t seen it since before Thanksgiving.

Same here…since Christmas, it’s been likely to have snow on it as not…

44 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:19:25pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

AMAZING!

I thought you would enjoy them. They’re pretty incredible.

45 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:21:11pm

re: #43 talon_262

Same here…since Christmas, it’s been likely to have snow on it as not…

I wish my lawn would reappear soon. I’m having issues with a fence and do not like the idea of trying to deal with it while it’s sitting in three feet of snow.

46 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:22:13pm

re: #42 darthstar

I hated mowing when I was a kid because my parents had a huge fucking lawn (about 2-3 hours of mowing)…now it’s MY lawn. It only takes about fifteen or twenty minutes total. But it’s mine.

Enjoy while it lasts. It will wear off.

47 charlz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:24:45pm

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

I hated mowing,

I actually like mowing my 1/4 acre lawn. I do different patterns every time, like going in a circle around a tree and spiraling out from there, or - if I’m really ambitious - mowing in one direction and then mowing in the right angled direction. After about 10 years, I’ve got several of my neighbors doing the same. It is actually supposed to be good for the lawn, too!

48 McSpiff  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:26:29pm

re: #47 charlz

I actually like mowing my 1/4 acre lawn. I do different patterns every time, like going in a circle around a tree and spiraling out from there, or - if I’m really ambitious - mowing in one direction and then mowing in the right angled direction. After about 10 years, I’ve got several of my neighbors doing the same. It is actually supposed to be good for the lawn, too!

For whatever reason, I’m really anal about the “grain” of my snow shoveling.

49 charlz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:28:45pm

re: #48 McSpiff

For whatever reason, I’m really anal about the “grain” of my snow shoveling.

Some might say that’s a flaky obsession.

50 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:30:12pm

re: #41 McSpiff

Figured we’d get the welcoming committee out before you scared away another one…

I was thinking about it.

51 compound idaho  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:32:06pm

re: #47 charlz

I actually like mowing my 1/4 acre lawn. I do different patterns every time, like going in a circle around a tree and spiraling out from there, or - if I’m really ambitious - mowing in one direction and then mowing in the right angled direction. After about 10 years, I’ve got several of my neighbors doing the same. It is actually supposed to be good for the lawn, too!

I did my Dads lawn at 90’s one week 45’s the next 30/60 the next. Did I mention my favorite show is Monk?

52 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:32:12pm

re: #47 charlz

I actually like mowing my 1/4 acre lawn. I do different patterns every time, like going in a circle around a tree and spiraling out from there, or - if I’m really ambitious - mowing in one direction and then mowing in the right angled direction. After about 10 years, I’ve got several of my neighbors doing the same. It is actually supposed to be good for the lawn, too!

There is no mowing of anything on the property I’m on now… live on the side of a mountain, about 2 acres. When you have to clean up around here, you hire someone with a bush wacker and a chainsaw…

BBIAB… Windows update wants me to reboot.

53 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:35:45pm

re: #43 talon_262

I’m getting a bit tired of the 2010-11 Tennessee Snowocalypse…can’t help my mom rebuild her house that got trashed in the Great Nashville Flood of the Century back in May (and had to be demolished) until the weather dries up and warms up a bit.

Hard to dig and pour a footer and have heavy equipment moving around when the ground either stays wet, frozen, or both, especially on land that’s in a bit of a low spot and holds moisture like a sponge.

54 compound idaho  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:36:24pm

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

There is no mowing of anything on the property I’m on now… live on the side of a mountain, about 2 acres. When you have to clean up around here, you hire someone with a bush wacker and a chainsaw…

BBIAB… Windows update wants me to reboot.

Give George Bush a call. He like to spend his time clearing brush on the ranch. I hear he is not as busy as he used to be.

55 charlz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:38:04pm

Another musical interlude? I’ve been listening to these guys a lot; an amazing jazz trio whose career was cut short by a tragic death:
This is Esbjörn Svensson Trio, Elevation of Love (listen all the way through, it’s a long build):

56 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:40:32pm

Algeria tomorrow.

Bahrain monday

Libya next thursday

57 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:40:47pm

re: #54 compound idaho

Give George Bush a call. He like to spend his time clearing brush on the ranch. I hear he is not as busy as he used to be.

LOL… not!

58 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:41:04pm

re: #56 Jadespring

Schedule of protests?

59 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:41:18pm

re: #33 Varek Raith

George Soros NASA


I liked that one too.
Joooos innnnn Spaaace!

60 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:41:59pm

re: #58 ProLifeLiberal

Schedule of protests?

Yep apparently.

61 compound idaho  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:41:59pm

re: #56 Jadespring

Algeria tomorrow.

Bahrain monday

Libya next thursday

Iran?

62 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:42:13pm

re: #36 polypam

Yay! I just registered and the newest thread has one of my favorite guitarists!
Karma, baby!

Welcome.

63 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:42:49pm

re: #61 compound idaho

Iran?

Haven’t seen any mention of anything concrete.

64 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:43:10pm

Anyone hear from Albusteve lately? Did he have another operation?

65 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:43:22pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Thanks! Luck was finally with me. I’m spending my Friday night waiting for one of my teens to call for a ride home.

66 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:44:05pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

Anyone hear from Albusteve lately? Did he have another operation?

Haven’t seen him around here… you want me to email him… or call him?

67 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:45:13pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

Haven’t seen him around here… you want me to email him… or call him?

Maybe send him an email. I think he had a surgery scheduled or he might just be busy with other things.

68 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:45:53pm

That was lovely, and a new artist for me!
Yeah! More to look forward to.

69 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:46:00pm

re: #61 compound idaho

Iran?

Oh wait. There’s some tweeting about Monday but I don’t have any idea how organized it is. Right now Iran is trying to block a lot of info apparently.

70 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:46:03pm

re: #60 Jadespring

Again, good to see that Morocco seems to be doing okay. I could be a very good promoter of Morocco.

Bahrain is a Shia-majority nation under rule of a Sunni Minority. I could see some issues. And Libya is having some of its own problems, though I look into them once done with a paper.

71 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:47:14pm

re: #36 polypam

Yay! I just registered and the newest thread has one of my favorite guitarists!
Karma, baby!

Welcome, hatchling.

72 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:47:50pm

In reference to Algeria…

Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
by 3arabawy
Algiers described as being under “siege” due to extreme security measures taken hours ahead of planned protests against the regime #algeria

73 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:47:56pm

re: #71 Floral Giraffe

Thank you! Now I just have to get the rest of this shell off..

74 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:49:14pm

re: #73 polypam

That’s what the egg tooth is for.

75 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:50:12pm

re: #70 ProLifeLiberal

Again, good to see that Morocco seems to be doing okay. I could be a very good promoter of Morocco.

Bahrain is a Shia-majority nation under rule of a Sunni Minority. I could see some issues. And Libya is having some of its own problems, though I look into them once done with a paper.

Well just read some more tweets.

Morocco on the 20th.

76 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:50:33pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

I liked that one too.
Jooos innn Spaaace!

When Jews are in space… we’re zooming along protecting the Hewbrew race!

Everybody sing along!

77 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:51:03pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Maybe send him an email. I think he had a surgery scheduled or he might just be busy with other things.

Done… I haven’t seen him here since I got back from Paris, three weeks ago. I didn’t know he was going for any new surgery… I may have missed that due to my European trip or something… didn’t know that.

78 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:51:06pm

re: #72 Jadespring

And here comes the next one (maybe). Algeria has had such a sad history recently.

I hope I am not ticking people off about the Morocco thing.

79 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:51:24pm

Evening friends.

Any Truths™ I should know about? Or care about?

80 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:51:28pm

I wonder if given the current world situation, if I buy my two kids twitter accounts, can I write it off as an educational expense?

(Just kidding, IRS)

81 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:52:17pm
82 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:53:03pm

re: #77 Walter L. Newton

Done… I haven’t seen him here since I got back from Paris, three weeks ago. I didn’t know he was going for any new surgery… I may have missed that due to my European trip or something… didn’t know that.

He’s been in here within the past few days…

83 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:53:44pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Shit like this…
Mexico Burns 134 Tons Of Confiscated Marijuana

Hope they remembered to toss the barber hair on top of it….

(anybody get the reference?)

84 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:53:59pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Shit like this…
Mexico Burns 134 Tons Of Confiscated Marijuana

Damn, that’s a smokin’ story.

85 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:54:01pm

re: #73 polypam

Thank you! Now I just have to get the rest of this shell off..

Well hello, no need to rush. Just a couple good comments does it. The newbie shell falls off easy.

86 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:54:32pm

re: #78 ProLifeLiberal

And here comes the next one (maybe). Algeria has had such a sad history recently.

I hope I am not ticking people off about the Morocco thing.

A Moroccan apparently burned himself in protest today.


[Link: translate.google.com…]

87 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:55:27pm

re: #79 b_sharp

Evening friends.

Any Truths™ I should know about? Or care about?

Canadian are sexier then Americans.

88 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:56:26pm

Tonight, I’d just like to say “thank you” to my earlier self for never giving in to the pressure to attend CPAC. Thanks, earlier self.

89 charlz  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:56:40pm

re: #82 talon_262

He’s been in here within the past few days…

in quite a bit of pain tho.

90 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:56:58pm

re: #82 talon_262

He’s been in here within the past few days…

Ok… I’ve been off and on here over the last three weeks after getting back from my vacation, computer problems, sick, work things… so, I haven’t been paying close attention to everything.

I emailed him… I’ll see if I get a reply… I can also call him if needed.

91 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:57:33pm

re: #87 Jadespring

Canadian are sexier then Americans.

That is so true it’s a truism.

92 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:57:49pm

re: #88 Charles

Thank you for the updates on what’s happening there. It sounds very creepy.

93 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:58:20pm

re: #88 Charles

Tonight, I’d just like to say “thank you” to my earlier self for never giving in to the pressure to attend CPAC. Thanks, earlier self.

Ooo, Totally weird.

94 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:58:22pm

re: #92 polypam

Thank you for the updates on what’s happening there. It sounds very creepy.

I’ll be nice.

95 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 5:58:42pm

Ha ha. Here’s the humor again…

SaloumehZ SaloumehZ
by maslowbeer
#Algeria, #Iran, and #Yemen have received the most votes to be the next revolution. We want to be very democratic about this! #Egypt

96 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:00:34pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I think in the next week or so, he was to get his prosthesis.
I hope he is doing well.

97 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:00:44pm

re: #86 Jadespring

Here’s the story I saw.

[Link: www.reuters.com…]

98 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:00:58pm

re: #88 Charles

Tonight, I’d just like to say “thank you” to my earlier self for never giving in to the pressure to attend CPAC. Thanks, earlier self.

You really do sound like you are beside yourself.

99 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:02:00pm

Looks like I was wrong about Iran. Things already happening.

[Link: www.pbs.org…]

Yadollah Eslami, reformist ex-MP and secretary-general of the Association of Former Majles Deputies, was arrested Friday afternoon. His arrest comes in the wake of the statement issued by the association earlier this week in support of the February 14 marches.

The website Vaares, which is close to Sayyed Hassan Khomeini, the grandson
of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and a strong critic of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has been blocked.

Several university student activists in Quchan in northeast Iran have been arrested.

The Association of Teachers and Scholars of Qom, a leftist clerical group, has issued a statement in support of the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt. It described them as revolts against dictatorship and warned that their repercussions will reach all of the Islamic world.

A large number of Green Movement activists and reformists have called on people to go to the roof of their homes Saturday and Sunday night and shout Allah-o Akbar (God is great) in support of the Monday marches.

As of late Friday, the number of people who have enrolled with the Facebook page for the Monday marches has reached 36,000.

In a moving letter to Tehran Prosecutor Abbas Jafari Dowlatabadi, Narges Mohammadi, wife of Taghi Rahmani, the nationalist-religious figure who was arrested on Thursday, described how the security forces broke down both the front door of their apartment building and the door of their home within. She has been hospitalized as a result of the invasion, the arrest of her husband, and the mistreatment that she and her two children received at the hands of the security forces.

100 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:02:04pm

re: #78 ProLifeLiberal

And here comes the next one (maybe). Algeria has had such a sad history recently.

I hope I am not ticking people off about the Morocco thing.

You’ve long since ticked everyone off, but Lizards are too sensitive to let on. Walter is your only defender here.

101 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:03:26pm

re: #88 Charles

Tonight, I’d just like to say “thank you” to my earlier self for never giving in to the pressure to attend CPAC. Thanks, earlier self.

You’d still be in the shower if you had…

102 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:03:36pm

re: #87 Jadespring

Canadian are sexier then Americans.

I thought that was Australians?

103 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:03:44pm

re: #94 Walter L. Newton

I’ll be nice.

Hey, Walter - I’m going to send you those little stories I told you about; I’ve been very busy, taking a class in stained glass and the homework is much more time-consuming than I thought it would be - Just so you know, I haven’t forgotten or blown it off.

104 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:04:13pm

re: #102 prairiefire

I thought that was Australians?

You make me laugh.

105 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:04:47pm

re: #102 prairiefire

I thought that was Australians?

Hmm…you might be right. Australians are pretty sexy.

106 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:05:23pm

re: #84 b_sharp

Damn, that’s a smokin’ story.

When Anthony Bourdain (supposedly a former coke user) went down to Panama to film an episode of No Reservations for the Travel Channel, he helped the cops to set fire to a very large cache of seized cocaine (we’re talking tons and tons here). In his usual smartass style, he said (and I’m paraphrasing). “Around the world, supermodels are weeping.”

;-P

107 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:06:07pm

re: #10 WindUpBird

Time Machine

First time I saw Satriani was on the first G3 tour (Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, and Eric Johnson, with Adrian Legg opening) in 1996. It was at the Austin Music Hall. Great show, but I think it was probably the hottest indoor temperature I’ve ever experienced, and standing immobile for ~3.5 hours wasn’t much fun, either.

108 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:08:03pm

re: #105 Jadespring

Hmm…you might be right. Australians are pretty sexy.

And how do they usually mate for life?

109 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:08:16pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

I’m sorry. I’m not trying to step on any many toes.

110 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:09:32pm

re: #109 ProLifeLiberal

I’m sorry. I’m not trying to step on any many toes.

I’m yanking your chain kid—If you ever cross the line here, someone will tell you at the speed of light. Give yourself a break.

111 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:11:07pm

re: #109 ProLifeLiberal

I’m sorry. I’m not trying to step on any many toes.

You contribute a lot.

112 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:11:21pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

I’m yanking your chain kid—If you ever cross the line here, someone will tell you at the speed of light. Give yourself a break.

You just about got a lateral ding for that earlier comment there mate.

113 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:12:10pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

I’m yanking your chain kid—If you ever cross the line here, someone will tell you at the speed of light. Give yourself a break.

Quite Concur.

114 polypam  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:14:34pm

Well, Mom’s chauffer service just got called. Thanks for the warm welcomes!

115 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:15:49pm

AWOLNATION Burn It Down:

116 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:17:16pm

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Hey! Happy Friday to you!

117 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:17:41pm

re: #103 reine.de.tout

Hey, Walter - I’m going to send you those little stories I told you about; I’ve been very busy, taking a class in stained glass and the homework is much more time-consuming than I thought it would be - Just so you know, I haven’t forgotten or blown it off.

Thanks.

118 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:18:30pm

Right wing extremism.

The Crackpot World Of ‘Alternative Right’

Getting hard to put into words.

119 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:19:17pm

Doing a paper, I just found this. Summary: When google screws up, it has big consequences.

[Link: blogs.wsj.com…]

120 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:20:14pm

re: #109 ProLifeLiberal

I’m sorry. I’m not trying to step on any many toes.

I’m not sure why you’re concerned about ticking people off about Morocco. I must have missed it somewhere. :) I know we talked about briefly but I wasn’t ticked about anything if that’s what you’re concerned about.

121 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:20:37pm
122 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:22:28pm

re: #116 Floral Giraffe

Hey! Happy Friday to you!

And to you as well. Just saw this on MSNBC; seems like it was moving day for some of your poor relations.

123 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:23:05pm

re: #121 jamesfirecat

Wow… just when you thought the “right to life” bill couldn’t get mocked any harder…

Yeah but the taxes will be low and budget will be balanced!

//

I’m still recovering from watching CPAC. OK, I did forget since I went for a walk, got some things, and then did a little bit of work. But damn.

124 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:23:49pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

And to you as well. Just saw this on MSNBC; seems like it was moving day for some of your poor relations.

FG was duck hunting.
Image: pewpew128556809820013017.jpg

125 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:24:37pm

re: #118 Gus 802

Right wing extremism.

The Crackpot World Of ‘Alternative Right’

Getting hard to put into words.


Yeah, I’m not sure how many people are actually going to understand that story but it’s very ugly and these folks are at CPAC.

126 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:24:47pm

So CPAC allowed GOProud in. My conclusion? So what. I’ve never seen such a collection of revanchist theocrats, whiners, and Birchers.

127 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:25:18pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

FG was duck hunting.
Image: pewpew128556809820013017.jpg

I think her hoof was loaded with blanks.

128 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:25:35pm

re: #88 Charles

Tonight, I’d just like to say “thank you” to my earlier self for never giving in to the pressure to attend CPAC. Thanks, earlier self.

You missed a chance this year. If you would have walked in, arm in arm with the Palin impersonator you’d have quite a story to tell.

129 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:25:48pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

Got him to move along!
LOL!

130 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:26:08pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

FG was duck hunting.
Image: pewpew128556809820013017.jpg

It’s actually not uncommon to find ducks in a giraffe pool at a zoo. Giraffes don’t bother waterfowl, so its a good place for the ducks to rest and eat before setting out again.

131 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:26:27pm

re: #126 Gus 802

So CPAC allowed GOProud in. My conclusion? So what. I’ve never seen such a collection of revanchist theocrats, whiners, and Birchers.

And scary people that think they can run the government.

132 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:26:46pm

re: #128 avanti

You missed a chance this year. If you would have walked in, arm in arm with the Palin impersonator you’d have quite a story to tell.

///Only if he got out alive….

133 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:27:19pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Yes, we’re nice to the short fowled folks!

134 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:27:33pm

re: #131 Floral Giraffe

And scary people that think they can run the government.

That needs to be corrected:

And scary people that think they can ruin the government.

135 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:27:35pm

re: #126 Gus 802

So CPAC allowed GOProud in. My conclusion? So what. I’ve never seen such a collection of revanchist theocrats, whiners, and Birchers.

It has been hard on the bloggers at Redstate this week. The majority are in a reactionary crouch. GOProud are not conservative, they say.

136 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:27:40pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I’m not sure how many people are actually going to understand that story but it’s very ugly and these folks are at CPAC.

The big tent! My short experiment with the GOP is finished. I won’t ever vote for Republican again for the rest of my life.

137 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:28:17pm

re: #132 jamesfirecat

Just had to imagine a Sarah and Charles impersonator team to punk the real shrieking harpy.

138 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:28:22pm

re: #136 Gus 802

I’m there with you.
Two words, Sarah Palin.

139 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:28:38pm

re: #133 Floral Giraffe

Yes, we’re nice to the short fowled folks!

I think it (the duck) prefers to be called a little fowl.

140 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:28:58pm

re: #138 Floral Giraffe

I’m there with you.
Two words, Sarah Palin.

They all suck. Romney can shove it. ;)

141 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:29:22pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

FG was duck hunting.
Image: pewpew128556809820013017.jpg

>

And actually, you missed the truly sinister part of the story: those are Rothschilds giraffes and as such are part of the Illiuminati.

/I love mocking conspiracy nuts.

142 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:29:39pm

re: #138 Floral Giraffe

BTW
Orchids in the morning, Morro bay by evening tomorrow…

143 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:30:49pm

re: #135 prairiefire

It has been hard on the bloggers at Redstate this week. The majority are in a reactionary crouch. GOProud are not conservative, they say.

Also Ron Paul and to some extent the “Muslim Infiltration.”

Read a bit of the discussion earlier.

144 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:31:03pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

And to you as well. Just saw this on MSNBC; seems like it was moving day for some of your poor relations.

Damned if I’m sitting under a sea-sick giraffe.

145 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:31:20pm

re: #135 prairiefire

It has been hard on the bloggers at Redstate this week. The majority are in a reactionary crouch. GOProud are not conservative, they say.

I’m trying to think of comparison without pulling a Godwin of sorts. GOProud is like an Indian scout that went over to work for the US Cavalry to fight the Indians.

146 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:32:08pm

re: #142 Rightwingconspirator

Drive safely & have a great time!

147 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:32:34pm

re: #145 Gus 802

I’m trying to think of comparison without pulling a Godwin of sorts. GOProud is like an Indian scout that went over to work for the US Cavalry to fight the Indians.

It’s like when a Star Wars ‘fan’ says Greedo shot first.

148 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:32:44pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

Leans over towards Decatur Deb…..

149 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:33:13pm

re: #147 Varek Raith

It’s like when a Star Wars ‘fan’ says Greedo shot first.

I’d have to look into that but updinged anyway. ;)

150 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:33:26pm

re: #148 Floral Giraffe

Pass the bag, please, Sir?

151 avanti  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:34:00pm

re: #137 Rightwingconspirator

Just had to imagine a Sarah and Charles impersonator team to punk the real shrieking harpy.

Here’s the Palin version:

Palin.

152 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:34:12pm

re: #145 Gus 802

I’m trying to think of comparison without pulling a Godwin of sorts. GOProud is like an Indian scout that went over to work for the US Cavalry to fight the Indians.

Doesn’t really work if you make it:

a Blackfoot scout that went over to work for the US Cavalry to fight the Cree

- but I do get your point.

153 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:34:16pm

re: #149 Gus 802

I’d have to look into that but updinged anyway. ;)



Heh.

154 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:34:39pm

re: #135 prairiefire

It has been hard on the bloggers at Redstate this week. The majority are in a reactionary crouch. GOProud are not conservative, they say.

Au contraire, I would say that the GOProuders have to be the most conservative of all. These are people whose blazing faith in whatever the hell it is about conservatism they have faith in is strong enough to keep them coming back, regardless of crazy behavior by everyone else in the conservative cosmos.

155 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:34:40pm

Attention people…. there is no god… I’ll be in a corner sobbing quietly and hugging my bioshock discs….

156 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:36:03pm

re: #152 b_sharp

Doesn’t really work if you make it:

a Blackfoot scout that went over to work for the US Cavalry to fight the Cree

- but I do get your point.

Image: whites240.jpg

157 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:36:07pm

re: #147 Varek Raith

It’s like when a Star Wars ‘fan’ says Greedo shot first.

LOL.

But he did!!!!! ;)

158 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:36:13pm

A Lizard sent me a link to a very cool book, about the first giraffes exported from Africa.
It’s a cool 19th century story.
The giraffes pretty much walked most of the way from Africa to France.
A good historical read.
Buy it from Amazon & get Charles a few pennies!

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

159 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:37:16pm

re: #154 SanFranciscoZionist

Au contraire, I would say that the GOProuders have to be the most conservative of all. These are people whose blazing faith in whatever the hell it is about conservatism they have faith in is strong enough to keep them coming back, regardless of crazy behavior by everyone else in the conservative cosmos.

In my mind, this implies that ‘conservative’ can be defined to be equivalent to cognitive dissonance.

160 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:37:27pm

re: #152 b_sharp

Doesn’t really work if you make it:

a Blackfoot scout that went over to work for the US Cavalry to fight the Cree

- but I do get your point.

Right. So sure he the Blackfoot eventually got revenge on the Cree but the US Cavalry eventually got all of the Indians rounded up including the Blackfoot. They both lost. Manifest Destiny won and no Indian treaty was ever honored.

161 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:41:26pm

re: #160 Gus 802

Right. So sure he the Blackfoot eventually got revenge on the Cree but the US Cavalry eventually got all of the Indians rounded up including the Blackfoot. They both lost. Manifest Destiny won and no Indian treaty was ever honored.

Size matters when might makes right.

162 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:41:33pm

Reviewing the follow-ups to the story between Costa Rica and Nicaragua, it looks like the current government has acted like a colossal tool. When they did their incursion, they clear cut a large area of the place in dispute. Also, it seems that Mr. Ortega has been using this as some sort re-election tool.

It seems despicable to do this sort of action against Costa Rica, as they are a neutral nation with no standing army.

163 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:41:36pm

re: #126 Gus 802

So CPAC allowed GOProud in. My conclusion? So what. I’ve never seen such a collection of revanchist theocrats, whiners, and Birchers.

New CPAC Head Distances Group from GOProud

The new chair of the American Conservative Union, Al Cardenas, today distanced his organization from GOProud, telling FrumForum in an exclusive interview that “it’s going to be difficult to continue the relationship” with the gay conservative organization.

“I have been disappointed with their website and their quotes in the media, taunting organizations that are respected in our movement and part of our movement, and that’s not acceptable. And that puts them in a difficult light in terms of how I view things,” said Cardenas.

it’s seems that this may be their last year. they weren’t nice to the respectable conservatives who called them abominations and child molesters.

164 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:41:55pm

re: #160 Gus 802

Right. So sure he the Blackfoot eventually got revenge on the Cree but the US Cavalry eventually got all of the Indians rounded up including the Blackfoot. They both lost. Manifest Destiny won and no Indian treaty was ever honored.

True, but if you were the Crow facing the Sioux, you didn’t have much of a choice. The Crow were badly outnumbered and being force off the best land anyways. Lots of those Idians who sided with the US knew the deal they were getting wouldn’t be good, but it still beat starving to death.

165 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:42:45pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

True, but if you were the Crow facing the Sioux, you didn’t have much of a choice. The Crow were badly outnumbered and being force off the best land anyways. Lots of those Idians who sided with the US knew the deal they were getting wouldn’t be good, but it still beat starving to death.

Bingo.

166 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:42:45pm

re: #159 b_sharp

In my mind, this implies that ‘conservative’ can be defined to be equivalent to cognitive dissonance.

They should change their name from GOProud to Association of White Gay Male Big Business Owners and Executives™.

167 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:43:50pm

re: #162 ProLifeLiberal

Reviewing the follow-ups to the story between Costa Rica and Nicaragua, it looks like the current government has acted like a colossal tool. When they did their incursion, they clear cut a large area of the place in dispute. Also, it seems that Mr. Ortega has been using this as some sort re-election tool.

It seems despicable to do this sort of action against Costa Rica, as they are a neutral nation with no standing army.

That’s why he did. Ortega faced no risk in doing so. He beat on someone he knew wouldn’t fight back, no better than a schoolyard bully write large.

168 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:46:14pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

Damned if I’m sitting under a sea-sick giraffe.

They look quite calm, given the circumstances. I think giraffes have a lot of natural self-confidence. It comes from being the kind of animal where, if you kick a lion in the head, it stays kicked.

169 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:46:26pm

I don’t understand GOProud either. It seems to me in many places in order to make your bones as a Republican,if you’ve at anytime expressed support for pro gay rights legislation, you have to backtrack on it. Someone here posted an article about how in 1993 when he was I assume a legislator in Minnesota, Tim Pawlenty supported a bill banning discrimination based on sexuality. When he first ran for governor, he was accused of being “too soft on gay rights” (gee does that remind you of the story of George Wallace in Alabama being accused of being too moderate on civil rights any?) and Pawlenty has gradually grown more and more anti gay politically over the years.

170 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:46:37pm

re: #163 zora

New CPAC Head Distances Group from GOProud

it’s seems that this may be their last year. they weren’t nice to the respectable conservatives who called them abominations and child molesters.

They can come next year, if they set up in the cloakroom.

171 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:47:27pm

Uh. My point wasn’t some American Indian history lesson.

172 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:47:57pm

re: #158 Floral Giraffe

A Lizard sent me a link to a very cool book, about the first giraffes exported from Africa.
It’s a cool 19th century story.
The giraffes pretty much walked most of the way from Africa to France.
A good historical read.
Buy it from Amazon & get Charles a few pennies!

[Link: www.amazon.com…]

Now that must have been a sight to see!

173 Bob The Cat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:48:26pm

Good evening folks, it’s nice to be here.

174 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:49:25pm

Here. I’ll do the Godwin. GOProud appearing at CPAC and supporting GOP candidates is like a Gypsy working for the Nazis in Berlin during WWII.

175 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:49:59pm

re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s a really great story.
And, in person, I’m not a giraffe, although I do have a long neck!
LOL!

176 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:49:59pm

re: #163 zora

New CPAC Head Distances Group from GOProud

it’s seems that this may be their last year. they weren’t nice to the respectable conservatives who called them abominations and child molesters.

Did the Log Cabin Republicans ever play CPAC?

177 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:50:03pm

re: #155 jamesfirecat

well they definitely have a fan base.

178 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:50:37pm

re: #155 jamesfirecat

Attention people… there is no god… I’ll be in a corner sobbing quietly and hugging my bioshock discs…

This will be to the Paulians what V for Vendetta was to the 9/11 Truthers for a while (before Anonymous co-opted it).

179 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:50:53pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

YGM.

180 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:51:19pm

re: #177 zora

well they definitely have a fan base.

Yes, but the first comment says it best for me… “I liked the movie about the Capitalist who makes an amazing discovery and then proceeds to fight the US government to keep it to himself better when it was called Iron Man 2…”

181 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:51:22pm

re: #173 Bob The Cat

Good evening folks, it’s nice to be here.

Welcome. Any relation to Fritz?

182 Bob The Cat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:52:16pm

re: #181 Decatur Deb

That’s my evil twin, just ignore him.

183 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:52:23pm

re: #166 Gus 802

but that would just be showing off.

184 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:52:45pm

re: #173 Bob The Cat

Good evening folks, it’s nice to be here.

One question - did you bring Opus?

185 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:53:04pm

re: #174 Gus 802

Here. I’ll do the Godwin. GOProud appearing at CPAC and supporting GOP candidates is like a Gypsy working for the Nazis in Berlin during WWII.

Okay but in context of where your original example led to it’s a funny and ironic Godwin. :)

186 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:53:05pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

This incident is a perfect example of why I hate the Chavista governments. They are some of the most hypocritical, corrupt, and aggressive governments of the face of the earth.

Seriously, they pick on Costa Rica? This is the reason the US needs to be active out in the world. Helping out countries in these sort of situations. I’m the kind of person who thinks that the Kosovo War and Bosnian War were Crowning Moments of Awesome for the United States. Certainly the US has committed mistakes, but usually we had good intent. The same cannot be said of the actions of one of our critics.

187 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:53:12pm

re: #184 b_sharp

That was a great comic strip.

188 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:53:24pm

re: #173 Bob The Cat

Good evening folks, it’s nice to be here.

Hello, welcome.

189 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:53:29pm

re: #178 negativ

This will be to the Paulians what V for Vendetta was to the 9/11 Truthers for a while (before Anonymous co-opted it).

So you’re saying the only way we can defeat it is by creating an even more powerful meme to usurp its meaning?

Of course you’re right! A symbol can only “die” when the thing it represents beyond itself no longer meshes with its intended meaning!

But while V has his mask, what feature of John Galt can we usurp that would encompass his entire character in one easy to focus on feature?

190 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:53:42pm

re: #173 Bob The Cat

Good evening folks, it’s nice to be here.

Welcome.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:54:27pm

re: #170 Decatur Deb

They can come next year, if they set up in the cloakroom.

And agree not to go to any ‘alcohol parties’, where they might seduce the innocent teenage sons of real conservatives.

(The teenage sisters of these sons, I guess, are totally safe from passes being made at them by adult male sleazeballs. Such things never, ever happen.)

((Why am I now remembering the scene from “Rome”, where Atia thinks that Octavian seduced Caesar, and is very disappointed when he denies it?))

192 Bob The Cat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:56:46pm

re: #184 b_sharp

I think Opus went “astray”.

193 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 6:59:23pm

re: #192 Bob The Cat

I think Opus went “astray”.

I blame the Albatross.

194 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:00:34pm

re: #192 Bob The Cat

At least Opus didn’t try to register at LGF five times.

195 TedStriker  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:01:24pm

re: #194 Charles

Ruh-roh…

196 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:01:27pm

re: #194 Charles

It was only 4 times?
///

197 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:01:34pm

[sound of toilet flushing]

//

198 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:01:57pm

re: #126 Gus 802

I’ve never seen such a collection of revanchist theocrats, whiners, and Birchers.

Welcome to the 2011 Republican Party. Would you like some tea?

I have a feeling we’ll be seeing far more of this nonsense during the 2012 elections. Watching the GOP candidates bend and twist to appeal to these people, then try to run a national campaign will be interesting, to say the least.

199 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:02:29pm

re: #197 Gus 802

Watch out for Bill the cat!
I hear he’s dangerous!
(And drooling!)

200 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:03:12pm

re: #198 Lidane

Welcome to the 2011 Republican Party. Would you like some tea?

I have a feeling we’ll be seeing far more of this nonsense during the 2012 elections. Watching the GOP candidates bend and twist to appeal to these people, then try to run a national campaign will be interesting, to say the least.

Right now I only see them appealing to the base. Tell you what though. If this rhetoric attracts independents then my only conclusion will be that a lot of independents are rather stupid.

201 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:03:22pm

re: #199 Floral Giraffe

Watch out for Bill the cat!
I hear he’s dangerous!
(And drooling!)

I thought he got stuck in a garbage can.

202 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:03:54pm

Trump

just how desperate is the republican party for a candidate?

203 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:04:38pm

re: #202 engineer dog

Trump

just how desperate is the republican party for a candidate?

It’s the hair.

204 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:04:57pm

re: #198 Lidane

Welcome to the 2011 Republican Party. Would you like some tea?

“Would you like some tea” is far too namby pamby for these people…

I think their general approach is far more likely to follow in the footsteps of Cid Highwind “Sit your ass down in that chair and drink your goddamn TEA!”

205 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:04:59pm

re: #202 engineer dog

just how desperate is the republican party for a candidate?

At this point, they’ll take anyone who isn’t Sarah Palin.

206 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:05:00pm

re: #202 engineer dog

Trump

just how desperate is the republican party for a candidate?

I think we are in for two more years of impotent rage.

207 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:05:03pm

Time for me to fire up the grill, I think. Tonight, we’ve got a rare critter from Down Under: Boomerang Troll. No matter how many times you throw it away, it keeps coming back to you. So tonight, we’ll grill its Gamey Buttocks.

208 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:05:59pm

re: #203 b_sharp

It’s the hair.

Or, lack of it…

209 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:06:46pm

re: #208 Floral Giraffe

Or horribleness of it.

210 Kronocide  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:06:58pm

Gamey Buttoks on tha Barbie!

211 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:07:07pm

re: #206 prairiefire

I think we are in for two six more years of impotent rage.

FTFY

At the rate the GOP is going, they’re going to get curbstomped in 2012. If they manage to shut down the government, even more so.

212 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:07:14pm

I think that their success in the 2010 election has made the TPers.think that they can do this long-term. They forget of course that anger at Obama and Democrats won’t last forever and being elected on anger is not sound strategy at all. And it’s going to be very hard to play that outsider image when the Republicans have the majority in the House.

213 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:07:59pm

re: #203 b_sharp

It’s the hair.

it’s möbius hair

214 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:10:49pm

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

If we’re having Boomerang Troll, should we serve it with cheap beer that even Aussies won’t drink (i.e., the Foster’s oil cans) or a decent Australian wine to kill the taste?

215 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:12:02pm

I am so glad we have the president we do. I think President Obama is doing an incredible job. He’s still working at it, of course. The next 6 months are going to be crucial in the Middle East.

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:12:18pm

re: #202 engineer dog

Trump

just how desperate is the republican party for a candidate?

They want a true believer, there’s just some disagreement about a true believer in WHAT.

Also, they’re aware that a true believer may not actually play well with the voters.

Now, me, I want them to run Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

217 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:12:39pm

re: #214 Lidane

If we’re having Boomerang Troll, should we serve it with cheap beer that even Aussies won’t drink (i.e., the Foster’s oil cans) or a decent Australian wine to kill the taste?

Wine, of course. I’m not a beer drinker. Troll calls for white wine.

218 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:13:24pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe that’s why she retired?

219 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:13:54pm

re: #214 Lidane

If we’re having Boomerang Troll, should we serve it with cheap beer that even Aussies won’t drink (i.e., the Foster’s oil cans) or a decent Australian wine to kill the taste?

I admit to liking the Yellowtail chardonnay, but I don’t say that too loudly, since I’m supposed to only drink California wines.

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:14:26pm

re: #215 prairiefire

I am so glad we have the president we do. I think President Obama is doing an incredible job. He’s still working at it, of course. The next 6 months are going to be crucial in the Middle East.

This could be Hillary’s moment to freakin’ SHINE.

221 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:14:32pm

re: #215 prairiefire

I am so glad we have the president we do. I think President Obama is doing an incredible job. He’s still working at it, of course. The next 6 months are going to be crucial in the Middle East.

i think that McCain would also do well in this situation. He hasn’t been that active in this crisis, but everything he’s said has been sane and coming from the right frame of mind. He doesn’t see Islamists under the bed, anyway.

222 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:14:35pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, me, I want them to run Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

After what she went through running against Rick Perry? Not a chance.

Also, I still remember the look on Kay’s face when Caribou Barbie was named McCain’s VP. She looked like she’d been slapped across the face on national television. I doubt she’s all that receptive to dealing with the national party again.

223 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:14:53pm

re: #218 fat bastard vegetarian

Maybe that’s why she retired?

To get away from me?

224 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:15:38pm

re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist

This could be Hillary’s moment to freakin’ SHINE.

And a candle burns in San Francisco.

225 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:15:43pm

re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist

LOL!
She’s askeered!

226 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:15:59pm

re: #222 Lidane

After what she went through running against Rick Perry? Not a chance.

Also, I still remember the look on Kay’s face when Caribou Barbie was named McCain’s VP. She looked like she’d been slapped across the face on national television. I doubt she’s all that receptive to dealing with the national party again.

True. After the pounding she took, Hutchinson’s career in elected office is essentially over.

227 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:16:21pm

re: #214 Lidane

If we’re having Boomerang Troll, should we serve it with cheap beer that even Aussies won’t drink (i.e., the Foster’s oil cans) or a decent Australian wine to kill the taste?

Got some cheap Yellowtail here. Should do.

228 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:16:48pm

re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist

I admit to liking the Yellowtail chardonnay, but I don’t say that too loudly, since I’m supposed to only drink California wines.

Saw a sign at a Mexican restaurant that said, “We only serve the finest California wines. Did you bring any?”

I guess had it been written in Spanish I couldn’t have understood it.

It was amazingly out of place, but very funny.

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:16:51pm

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

i think that McCain would also do well in this situation. He hasn’t been that active in this crisis, but everything he’s said has been sane and coming from the right frame of mind. He doesn’t see Islamists under the bed, anyway.

I think he would probably have made sensible choices, yes.

230 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:17:27pm

re: #222 Lidane

After what she went through running against Rick Perry? Not a chance.

Also, I still remember the look on Kay’s face when Caribou Barbie was named McCain’s VP. She looked like she’d been slapped across the face on national television. I doubt she’s all that receptive to dealing with the national party again.

Well, Obama doesn’t have the Perry HAIR, so that would be different.

Sigh. It was just an idea.

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:18:03pm

re: #224 prairiefire

And a candle burns in San Francisco.

HIL-LA-RY!! HIL-LA-RY!!

I’m wearing my commemorative pantsuit, and everything.

232 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:19:02pm

An Apology, that needs to be publicly posted.
Because I should do it.
I was being a total looser bitch.
And, I regret it.

For Reginald Perrin,

I should like to publicly apologize to you for my bad behavior,
and public defamation of your character.
It was bad behavior on my part,
and I am sorry for it.

Sincerely,
Floral Giraffe.

233 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:19:21pm

re: #202 engineer dog

he was second string. the other reality show presidential hopeful wasn’t interested.

234 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:19:54pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

Tangerine? Or the Fuchsia?

235 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:20:00pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Wine, of course. I’m not a beer drinker. Troll calls for white wine.

Hmm. Trolls did originate from Scandinavia so white wine does go with white meat.

//

236 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:20:28pm

Well I imagine Hutchinson is up there in age too. She does seem like a reasonable person much like Lisa Murkowski. Probably wouldn’t vote for either woman because of disagreements on economics but I’d be happy to call them my senator like I had with John Warner before he retired. The GOP if you ask me needs more people like the aforementioned women as well as Lindsay Graham. People who can make their point across without being schmucks.

237 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:20:34pm

re: #232 Floral Giraffe

He is a former lizard. He has ceased to be.

238 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:21:19pm

re: #235 Gus 802

Hmm. Trolls did originate from Scandinavia so white wine does go with white meat.

//

Exactly. I’m think a medium-grade bottle of Chardonnay is suited for this troll. High-grade only if we nail an especially high-grade troll.

239 Gus  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:21:28pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Well I imagine Hutchinson is up there in age too. She does seem like a reasonable person much like Lisa Murkowski. Probably wouldn’t vote for either woman because of disagreements on economics but I’d be happy to call them my senator like I had with John Warner before he retired. The GOP if you ask me needs more people like the aforementioned women as well as Lindsay Graham. People who can make their point across without being schmucks.

Did you see Gov. Rick Perry today? Damn, what a slimy snake he is.

240 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:21:42pm

re: #237 fat bastard vegetarian

Yes, but real people have real feelings.
I was very mean.

241 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:21:47pm

re: #232 Floral Giraffe

He’s probably already printed that post and is pleasuring himself to it.

242 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:22:25pm

re: #241 fat bastard vegetarian

Well, if that’s what he chooses to do with it, I’m OK with it.

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:22:27pm

re: #232 Floral Giraffe

I clearly missed the origins of this, but you are a class act. Always.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:22:46pm

re: #234 fat bastard vegetarian

Tangerine? Or the Fuchsia?

Tangerine. I look good in tangerine.

245 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:23:06pm

re: #240 Floral Giraffe

Yes, but real people have real feelings.
I was very mean.

It’s the Intertubes. You dialed it up to a ‘3’.

246 Lidane  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:23:12pm

re: #235 Gus 802

Hmm. Trolls did originate from Scandinavia so white wine does go with white meat.

//

And Scandinavian folks know all about trolls:

247 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:23:15pm

re: #237 fat bastard vegetarian

He is a former lizard. He has ceased to be.

What?

248 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:23:18pm

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I’m not, but I do TRY to be.
*smooch*

249 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:23:47pm

re: #239 Gus 802

Did you see Gov. Rick Perry today? Damn, what a slimy snake he is.

Heard about him from the people here. That guy is exactly whom I am talking about as being a problem with the modern GOP mindset.

250 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:23:57pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

Tangerine. I look good in tangerine.

LOL!
You look good in every color, you just have to work the accessories!

251 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:24:42pm

re: #250 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You look good in every color, you just have to work the accessories!

Not certain shades of pale green—let me be clear about that.

252 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:24:51pm

re: #245 Decatur Deb

I didn’t dial it up, he did.
And I turned bitch. Insecure bitch.
He deserves an apology.

253 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:25:14pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

(no one looks good in tangerine)

254 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:26:04pm

re: #251 SanFranciscoZionist

You’d look fabulous in Apple green, and orange accessories.
LOL!
DO NOT TAKE ME SHOPPING WITH YOU.
You’d hate it next week!

255 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:26:12pm

re: #252 Floral Giraffe

I didn’t dial it up, he did.
And I turned bitch. Insecure bitch.
He deserves an apology.

Looks like I missed something important.

256 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:26:24pm

re: #252 Floral Giraffe

I didn’t dial it up, he did.
And I turned bitch. Insecure bitch.
He deserves an apology.

We all do wrong sometimes, Floral. You however, understand when you do it and then work to make it right. And that’s the mark of a good person.

257 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:29:14pm

re: #252 Floral Giraffe

I didn’t dial it up, he did.
And I turned bitch. Insecure bitch.
He deserves an apology.

This will never go away until you make a penitent pilgrimage to Graceland.

[Link: www.google.com…]

258 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:29:42pm

re: #234 fat bastard vegetarian

Tangerine? Or the Fuchsia?

For the record, I am keeping my “man card”. I spent a couple of minutes looking for the proper way to spell “Fuchsia”.

259 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:30:01pm

re: #255 b_sharp

Looks like I missed something important.

I don’t know how important it is.
It’s the intertubes, after all.
I am concerned with my friends feelings, that I trampled all over.
It’s not someone I will ever meet in the meat world, but he might have been. And I was a total bitch. That’s not the real me. So, I wanted to apologize.

260 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:30:17pm

re: #258 fat bastard vegetarian

For the record, I am keeping my “man card”. I spent a couple of minutes looking for the proper way to spell “Fuchsia”.

So you say.

261 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:30:47pm

re: #234 fat bastard vegetarian

Tangerine? Or the Fuchsia?

I like the pale blue.

262 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:31:15pm

re: #257 Decatur Deb

This will never go away until you make a penitent pilgrimage to Graceland.

[Link: www.google.com…]

I am NEVER going to graceland.
Thank you for the linkage, though.
LOL!
NOT an Elvis fan.

263 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:32:05pm

re: #262 Floral Giraffe

It is quite interesting. Been there once. It was a kitschy trip.

264 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:32:31pm

re: #262 Floral Giraffe

I am NEVER going to graceland.
Thank you for the linkage, though.
LOL!
NOT an Elvis fan.

Hence the Paul Simon vid.

265 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:33:18pm

re: #259 Floral Giraffe

I don’t know how important it is.
It’s the intertubes, after all.
I am concerned with my friends feelings, that I trampled all over.
It’s not someone I will ever meet in the meat world, but he might have been. And I was a total bitch. That’s not the real me. So, I wanted to apologize.

From what I know of you, through reading your posts over the last year, your definition of ‘being a total bitch’ is closer to ‘being slightly aggressive’. You are a good person.

266 zora  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:34:26pm

Michele Bachmann Thinks the Rent Is 2 Damn High

[Link: gawker.com…]

i found this photo amusing.

267 fat bastard vegetarian  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:35:28pm

re: #253 fat bastard vegetarian

(no one looks good in tangerine)

I know a girl who
Reminds me of Cher
She’s always changing
The color of her hair
She don’t use nothin’
That you buy at a store
She likes her hair to
Be real orange
She uses Tangerines.

268 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:35:43pm

I see the Fan Club is at it again.

[waves to the Stalkers]

269 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:39:39pm

re: #265 b_sharp

Thank you. I try. Sometimes.

270 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:39:57pm

re: #266 zora

Michele Bachmann Thinks the Rent Is 2 Damn High

[Link: gawker.com…]

i found this photo amusing.

Bachmann-McMillian :)

271 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:41:24pm

re: #261 prairiefire

I like the pale blue.

That always makes me think of this song:

272 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:42:18pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

You know what?
They are useless twinkies on the ass of LGF.
I am not looking over there (although I do miss bagua)
And they can just, well, assume rude things.
THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.
Yes, I am screaming.
I’m over them.
Bedtime stories or none.
LOL!

273 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:42:32pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Bachmann-McMillian :)

“Fay chick is too damn crazy.”

274 Political Atheist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:43:17pm

re: #232 Floral Giraffe

Now that is honest, classy and real. Whatever RP makes of it…
*Tips Hat *

275 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:43:45pm
276 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:44:31pm

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

i think that McCain would also do well in this situation. He hasn’t been that active in this crisis, but everything he’s said has been sane and coming from the right frame of mind. He doesn’t see Islamists under the bed, anyway.

Too bad he hasn’t shown any sort of understanding of our economy which was an even more pressing situation when he would have been elected….

277 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:44:59pm

Looking through Wikipedia, it appears that in one of the leaked documents, the US Ambassador in 2008 described Algeria as “an unhappy country” in the understatement of the decade.

With the background I have major wise, I will be watching what happens next closely.

278 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:45:04pm

re: #274 Rightwingconspirator

Thank you, it’s not classy to be apologizising, but it’s the right thing to do.

279 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:45:21pm

Uncork the wine, ‘cause the troll is now served!

And for the Stalkers reading this, this one’s for you, on behalf of Floral and Ice:

280 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:46:42pm

re: #276 jamesfirecat

Too bad he hasn’t shown any sort of understanding of our economy which was an even more pressing situation when he would have been elected…

He’s been government service his entire adult life. He hasn’t had any major exposure to business.

281 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:46:43pm

re: #277 ProLifeLiberal

Looking through Wikipedia, it appears that in one of the leaked documents, the US Ambassador in 2008 described Algeria as “an unhappy country” in the understatement of the decade.

With the background I have major wise, I will be watching what happens next closely.

Interesting. Really wish I knew more about the region. Took a class on modern Middle Eastern history a couple years ago but only half of the semester was really spent discussing countries and of the countries discussed, Algeria was not one of them.

282 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:50:19pm

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

He’s been government service his entire adult life. He hasn’t had any major exposure to business.

Wait… wasn’t that Scandel McCain got caught up in (the Keating Five) all about business?

Also you don’t have to work in a business to know how our economy works, you just have to realize the basic truth of Keynesian Economics, or at the very least that its a Laffer Curve not a Laffer line which inversely relates taxes and revenue….

283 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:50:22pm

re: #278 Floral Giraffe

Thank you, it’s not classy to be apologizising, but it’s the right thing to do.

It is always classy to apologize when you believe you should.

284 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:52:12pm

re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist

It is always classy to apologize when you believe you should.

Floral, listen to SFZ, she’s a smart person.

285 pyite  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:52:55pm

Satch Rocks, I have seen him quite a few times; though not since he shaved his head!

Wormhole Wizards has some good stuff, check it out.

286 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:53:20pm

Well, maybe McCain not understanding economics wasn’t his fault but he could have had better economic advisers you could argue. Every candidate has an issue where he or she’s not the best on which is why it’s important to have smart people srurrounding you. I recall one of McCain’s advisers, former Senator Gramm who basically derided all people making noise about the economic troubles were as “crybabies” and whosever idea it was to make “JOe the Plumber” the focal point of criticism of Obama’s tax plan was foolish too.

287 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:53:46pm

re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist

I would rather have not seen the need to apologize.
But, that was not to be.

And, I particularly dislike making an enemy.
Even though, that is what I have done.

288 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:55:34pm

re: #287 Floral Giraffe

I would rather have not seen the need to apologize.
But, that was not to be.

And, I particularly dislike making an enemy.
Even though, that is what I have done.

You have more class than you realize.

289 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:56:20pm

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Well, maybe McCain not understanding economics wasn’t his fault but he could have had better economic advisers you could argue. Every candidate has an issue where he or she’s not the best on which is why it’s important to have smart people srurrounding you. I recall one of McCain’s advisers, former Senator Gramm who basically derided all people making noise about the economic troubles were as “crybabies” and whosever idea it was to make “JOe the Plumber” the focal point of criticism of Obama’s tax plan was foolish too.

Here’s that famous quote/ the story behind it…

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com…]

John McCain doesn’t have to be strong on economics himself but his advisers should be able to get him to produce reasonable sound bytes at the very least.

Much of what I heard from him however was just more of Bush’s economic policies which got us into this mess in the first place, so I sure as hell didn’t see how they’d get us out of it….

290 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:57:49pm

re: #288 b_sharp

I don’t want FUCKING class. I want friends.
I can’t seem to get either.

291 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:58:01pm

re: #289 jamesfirecat

Here’s that famous quote/ the story behind it…

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com…]

John McCain doesn’t have to be strong on economics himself but his advisers should be able to get him to produce reasonable sound bytes at the very least.

Much of what I heard from him however was just more of Bush’s economic policies which got us into this mess in the first place, so I sure as hell didn’t see how they’d get us out of it…

Thanks, yep I agree with you 100% regarding McCain. All McCain offered was the same stuff we had already heard time and time again. Plus, when he started deriding Obama’s tax plan as “socialism”, I felt he was playing a game of desperation.

292 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:59:02pm

re: #290 Floral Giraffe

I don’t want FUCKING class. I want friends.
I can’t seem to get either.

Dear lady, you have both.

293 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:59:50pm

re: #292 b_sharp

Dear lady, you have both.

*smooch*

294 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:00:59pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Algeria has had a brutal history in recently. They fought a massive war of independence against France, which resulted in the death of 1 million people. After that, the nation was ruled by various General with one coup after another, until 1991 when election were held, which were won by the Islamic Action Front. As a result, the president suspended parliament and made Islamist parties illegal. This caused a Civil War which resulted in the deaths of somewhere between 150k-200k. Since then, terrorism has been somewhat frequent in the country.

Yet, it is still more developed that Morocco. I’m guessing the reason for this is the previous King, Hassan II, being overly power hungry. But they are beginning to make reasonably large gains now, though they still lag behind. (Development judged from HDI)

295 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:01:35pm

re: #293 Floral Giraffe

*smooch*

8)

{{FG}}

296 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:01:40pm

re: #294 ProLifeLiberal

Algeria has had a brutal history in recent times. They fought a massive war of independence against France, which resulted in the death of 1 million people. After that, the nation was ruled by various General with one coup after another, until 1991 when election were held, which were won by the Islamic Action Front. As a result, the president suspended parliament and made Islamist parties illegal. This caused a Civil War which resulted in the deaths of somewhere between 150k-200k. Since then, terrorism has been somewhat frequent in the country.

Yet, it is still more developed that Morocco. I’m guessing the reason for this is the previous King, Hassan II, being overly power hungry. But they are beginning to make reasonably large gains now, though they still lag behind. (Development judged from HDI)

I really need to pay more attention when I type.

297 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:03:07pm

re: #296 ProLifeLiberal

I really need to pay more attention when I type.

Ok, thanks. Wasn’t familiar with the political situation there. Knew about the history involving the French since one of my favorite movies (Day of the Jackal) involves a bunch of French army extremists who try to assassinate De Gaulle over giving the Algerians their independence and as I recall, Camus’ The Stranger was there too. HAted that book in high school heh.

298 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:05:15pm

re: #296 ProLifeLiberal

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Some of our army elements used “The Battle of Algiers” as a familiarization tool during the run-up to Iraq. The novels of Jean Lartiguy also sold briskly.

299 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:05:39pm

re: #292 b_sharp

Thank you. I’m doing my best.
It’s not very good, but I am trying.

300 HoosierHoops  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:16:53pm

re: #299 Floral Giraffe

Thank you. I’m doing my best.
It’s not very good, but I am trying.

If the sky above you
Should turn dark and full of clouds
And that old north wind should begin to blow
Keep your head together and call my name out loud
And soon I will be knocking upon your door.
You just call out my name and you know where ever I am
I’ll come running to see you again.
Winter, Spring, summer or fall
All you got to do is call
And I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, ain’t it good to know that you’ve got a friend?
__________________________________________
Love ya Floral

301 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:18:06pm

re: #300 HoosierHoops

*BIG smooch*
Hoopster.
Thank you.

302 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:18:12pm

Okay I’ve been watching way too much tv today. I only caught it out of the corner of my eye. My cat was sleeping and rolled off the top of the chair and I automatically picked up the remote to hit rewind so I could see it again….

303 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:18:56pm

re: #298 Decatur Deb

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Some of our army elements used “The Battle of Algiers” as a familiarization tool during the run-up to Iraq. The novels of Jean Lartiguy also sold briskly.

An interesting question of history is what would have happen had General Challe been allowed to go ahead with Operation Trident. He might have been able to wreck the insurgents badly enough to end them as a mid-term threat.

304 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:22:18pm

re: #302 Jadespring

Okay I’ve been watching way too much tv today. I only caught it out of the corner of my eye. My cat was sleeping and rolled off the top of the chair and I automatically picked up the remote to hit rewind so I could see it again…

Did you see it again?

305 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:23:59pm

I will stop whining now.
I thank you for your patience.
To the Deuce, well, you know what the bird is.

306 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:24:40pm

So, we’re less than 4 weeks away from the GOP House essentially closing down the government (because of no authorization to spend/borrow.)

Yes, I expect the Senate to balk at whatever bill the GOP House does eventually pass, if it even passes one.

Hopefully any retirees out there have made alternative plans, if they live check-to-check, etc.

I seem to remember the last time this stunt was pulled that the Fed told the banks to accept the automatic payments from the Treasury anyway (and the Fed would make it work.) But my memory could be wrong here.

Anyway, the days are counting down.

307 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:27:08pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

An interesting question of history is what would have happen had General Challe been allowed to go ahead with Operation Trident. He might have been able to wreck the insurgents badly enough to end them as a mid-term threat.

Here’s a good Slate article on the film, and our lessons to be learned, in relation to whole picture. In the end, De Gaulle had more to fear from the paras than the Algerians.

[Link: www.slate.com…]

308 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:27:37pm

re: #306 freetoken

The GOP is going to come out of this looking like morons.

My dad gets more ticked off at the Republicans with every passing shenanigan. At this rate, he’ll probably mad enough to launch into orbit by Spring Break.

309 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:29:41pm

re: #306 freetoken

So, we’re less than 4 weeks away from the GOP House essentially closing down the government (because of no authorization to spend/borrow.)

Yes, I expect the Senate to balk at whatever bill the GOP House does eventually pass, if it even passes one.

Hopefully any retirees out there have made alternative plans, if they live check-to-check, etc.

I seem to remember the last time this stunt was pulled that the Fed told the banks to accept the automatic payments from the Treasury anyway (and the Fed would make it work.) But my memory could be wrong here.

Anyway, the days are counting down.

The countdown is even faster. Congress is out of session much of the time between now and the 4th. They basically have a week to get it together. A lot of retirees are not in good shape.

310 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:30:31pm

Bagua, you’re a prince, even if a dark prince.

311 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:31:14pm

re: #308 ProLifeLiberal

The GOP is going to come out of this looking like morons.

Especially if they can’t even agree with themselves.

312 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:33:16pm

re: #306 freetoken

So, we’re less than 4 weeks away from the GOP House essentially closing down the government (because of no authorization to spend/borrow.)

Yes, I expect the Senate to balk at whatever bill the GOP House does eventually pass, if it even passes one.

Hopefully any retirees out there have made alternative plans, if they live check-to-check, etc.

I seem to remember the last time this stunt was pulled that the Fed told the banks to accept the automatic payments from the Treasury anyway (and the Fed would make it work.) But my memory could be wrong here.

Anyway, the days are counting down.

Actually, I think they’ll find something that prevents that outcome. At the 8th and last, I think Boener would pass a CR with Democratic votes and accept the internal rebellion rather than have the blame for a shutdown. He has not forgotten 1994, even if the Tea Party has.

313 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:35:01pm

re: #309 Decatur Deb

They basically have a week to get it together.

That’s even worse than I thought.

Right now the Tea Partiers are holding Boehner hostage. But I have to think that he’d want to not be in that position.

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

Well, I doubt that Boehner really cares one way or another, but I do believe that he really likes being in that seat and will do whatever he needs to in order to keep it.

314 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:35:20pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

Actually, I think they’ll find something that prevents that outcome. At the 8th and last, I think Boener would pass a CR with Democratic votes and accept the internal rebellion rather than have the blame for a shutdown. He has not forgotten 1994, even if the Tea Party has.

I think I read today that it went back to square one in committee. Tic Toc…

315 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:35:21pm

re: #311 freetoken

Especially if they can’t even agree with themselves.

Don’t underestimate the power of bias confirmation and the gullibility of voters.

316 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:35:25pm

re: #304 b_sharp

Did you see it again?

No unfortunately the remote does not work on real life. :(

317 b_sharp  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:36:09pm

re: #316 Jadespring

No unfortunately the remote does not work on real life. :(

Damn. I had high hopes.

318 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:36:30pm

re: #315 b_sharp

Don’t underestimate the power of bias confirmation and the gullibility of voters.

If the automatic deposits don’t show up in the bank accounts, all bets are off.

319 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:37:40pm

re: #313 freetoken

That’s even worse than I thought.

Right now the Tea Partiers are holding Boehner hostage. But I have to think that he’d want to not be in that position.

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

Well, I doubt that Boehner really cares one way or another, but I do believe that he really likes being in that seat and will do whatever he needs to in order to keep it.

I think Ms Pelosi is sleeping better than Mr Boehner these days.

320 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:40:42pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

Actually, I think they’ll find something that prevents that outcome. At the 8th and last, I think Boener would pass a CR with Democratic votes and accept the internal rebellion rather than have the blame for a shutdown. He has not forgotten 1994, even if the Tea Party has.

I hope so simply for the nation’s sake, but the Patriot act game the other day shows how knife edge his situation is with the teabaggers. I look at them, like Scott Walker up here in Wisconsin as well as those in Congress, and realize that they really want to make the nation collapse.

321 Achilles Tang  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:42:16pm

re: #282 jamesfirecat

Wait… wasn’t that Scandel McCain got caught up in (the Keating Five) all about business?

Also you don’t have to work in a business to know how our economy works, you just have to realize the basic truth of Keynesian Economics, or at the very least that its a Laffer Curve not a Laffer line which inversely relates taxes and revenue…

Do you just take that Laffer stuff at face value, or did I miss something?

Show us your curve please, because if you can’t it is a pointless point.

322 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:42:50pm

re: #320 wlewisiii

I hope so simply for the nation’s sake, but the Patriot act game the other day shows how knife edge his situation is with the teabaggers. I look at them, like Scott Walker up here in Wisconsin as well as those in Congress, and realize that they really want to make the nation collapse.

Just to bathtub size.

323 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:43:36pm

re: #314 Decatur Deb

I think I read today that it went back to square one in committee. Tic Toc…

Update from CNN:

House Republicans unveil dramatic spending cuts
By: CNN’s Dana Bash and Deirdre Walsh

Washington (CNN) – House Republicans unveiled a sweeping spending bill Friday evening that slashes hundreds of programs and agencies across the government – from education, to the environment to cops on the beat – setting up a showdown with Senate Democrats.

“The legislation includes the largest reduction in discretionary spending in the history of our nation – over five times larger than any other discretionary cut package ever considered by the House,” said House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers, R-KY, in a statement.

Facing rebellion from conservatives – especially newly elected freshmen – House GOP leaders added $26 billion spending cuts from their planned proposal in order to fulfill a campaign promise to cut $100 billion in spending this year

The total spending cuts add up to $60 billion when compared to spending levels now funding the government. But it meets the GOP pledge to cut $100 billion in federal spending compared to what President Obama proposed for government programs for this fiscal year, which was never enacted.

Based on the President’s budget for this year, $81 billion would be cut from non-security programs, and $19 billion from security related programs, all compared with the president’s budget proposal for 2011.

“These cuts go far and wide, and will affect every community in the nation. These were hard decisions, and I know many people will not be happy with everything we’ve proposed in this package. That’s understandable and not unexpected, but I believe these reductions are necessary to show that we are serious about returning our nation to a sustainable financial path,” said Rogers.

The Republican legislation calls for over 100 federal programs to be outright eliminated, including scholarships, family planning, school counseling, Teach for America, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, AmeriCorps, and the COPS hiring program.

324 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:44:19pm

re: #320 wlewisiii

… I look at them, like Scott Walker up here in Wisconsin as well as those in Congress, and realize that they really want to make the nation collapse.

They’re hardcore into their fantasies. Revisionist history, theocracy, voo-doo economics, and such.

325 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:44:44pm

re: #320 wlewisiii

I hope so simply for the nation’s sake, but the Patriot act game the other day shows how knife edge his situation is with the teabaggers. I look at them, like Scott Walker up here in Wisconsin as well as those in Congress, and realize that they really want to make the nation collapse.

No, they don’t want a collapse. But they see cutting this spending as essential and as the keeping of a promise. Thus they’re going to do it.

326 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:46:10pm

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

At cost of the poor and middle class, who are already stressed as it is.

327 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:46:34pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

From the link:

The Department of Agriculture’s budget would see a 22% reduction compared with current spending levels: $88 million in cuts for Food Safety and Inspection; a $747 million cut in nutrition programs for women and children; a $241 million cut at the FDA.

We don’t need no stinkin’ inspected food or healthy children… COMMUNISM!!

328 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:48:04pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

That’s right. Get rid of PBS and keep Fox. Hmm… history, science, education or Family Guy and the Simpsons… decisions, decisions.

329 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:49:06pm
The Department of Interior’s Budget is slashed by 14%. The biggest cuts here are aimed at the EPA – $3 billion – on everything from research on global warming, to vehicle fuel standards certification – amounting to 30% of its budget.

GOD GAVE EVERY AMERICAN THE RIGHT TO DRIVE WHATEVER CAR THEY DESIRE!!

330 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:49:52pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Update from CNN:

House Republicans unveil dramatic spending cuts
By: CNN’s Dana Bash and Deirdre Walsh

So 74B equals 100B. They learn fast, these TPs. If they cut Americorps they are simply evil reactionaries. It does the things the nation needs to be doing right now.

331 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:51:03pm

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

No, they don’t want a collapse. But they see cutting this spending as essential and as the keeping of a promise. Thus they’re going to do it.

No, they’re relying on the Senate to stop them—cheesy dramatics.

332 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:51:07pm

re: #330 Decatur Deb

To be fair to the TPers, this bill is from the leadership, a modification of their early offering at which the TPers balked. The true TPers are still asking for more.

333 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:52:16pm

re: #331 Decatur Deb

No, they’re relying on the Senate to stop them—cheesy dramatics.

Well, that is what the GOP leadership wants - someone to blame. But the real diehard TPers, the ones who hold their daily “townhall” sessions, really do want to shut down part of government. They are trying to eliminate several departments.

334 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:52:25pm

Okay, so some things should be cut but a lot of stuff I see they’re proposing to cut is just being plain reactionary on their part. Really scholarships. Scholarships and Pell Grants have helped many kids who normally can’t afford college afford college. Or cutting from the FDA. I guess they don’t care what shit goes in our food.

335 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:55:43pm

re: #332 freetoken

To be fair to the TPers, this bill is from the leadership, a modification of their early offering at which the TPers balked. The true TPers are still asking for more.

I can’t see where these deep cuts in education and environment are going to fly. Not with this president. I think it’s most likely a gesture to their voters. Least that’s what I’m counting on!

336 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:56:31pm

re: #333 freetoken

Well, that is what the GOP leadership wants - someone to blame. But the real diehard TPers, the ones who hold their daily “townhall” sessions, really do want to shut down part of government. They are trying to eliminate several departments.

And the terrible irony is how they themselves will be effected by those cuts. Is Medicare, Social Security and Welfare in there?

337 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:56:41pm

re: #335 marjoriemoon

That is what Boehner is counting on. He wants either the Senate or the President to be the one to blame for not balancing the budget.

338 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:56:46pm

re: #333 freetoken

Well, that is what the GOP leadership wants - someone to blame. But the real diehard TPers, the ones who hold their daily “townhall” sessions, really do want to shut down part of government. They are trying to eliminate several departments.

They’re unlikely to see that happen. A compromise will be reached, I am sure. But first the TP has to be shown that they cannot have everything they want. Call it the first step in GOP freshmen education.

339 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:58:12pm

re: #337 freetoken

That is what Boehner is counting on. He wants either the Senate or the President to be the one to blame for not balancing the budget.

And if they do cause enough chaos to reverse the recovery, that’s OK. Mission One is to prevent a second Obama term.

340 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:58:59pm

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

No, they don’t want a collapse. But they see cutting this spending as essential and as the keeping of a promise. Thus they’re going to do it.

Unfortunately any knowledge of real world econ (as in non-Austrian) says that what they’re doing will collapse things. Adam Smith would be infuriated by these people.

341 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 8:59:13pm

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

re: #331 Decatur Deb

GOP vows cuts, except to some “Sacred Cows”

No way you can watch this video and not see the ridiculous, insulting, and downright evil hypocrisy engaged in by the GOP on the “spending” issue. 35 billion in wasteful crap they won’t cut, because it happens to benefit their cronies.

342 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:00:23pm

The story is amusing and ironic. Apparently, Geert Wilders has Indonesian ancestry. This ironic to the breaking point. Anyone have more comments.

[Link: vorige.nrc.nl…]

343 Achilles Tang  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:00:39pm

re: #338 Dark_Falcon

Call it the first step in GOP freshmen education.

Education at this stage in life? What education did they get before being elected?/

344 Achilles Tang  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:01:34pm

re: #342 ProLifeLiberal

The story is amusing and ironic. Apparently, Geert Wilders has Indonesian ancestry. This ironic to the breaking point. Anyone have more comments.

[Link: vorige.nrc.nl…]

And before that his ancestry was African.

345 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:01:43pm

re: #343 Naso Tang

What education did they get before being elected?/

Well, evidently not history (as in real history). Or science for that matter.

346 HappyWarrior  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:02:30pm

re: #345 freetoken

Well, evidently not history (as in real history). Or science for that matter.

I didn’t come from no Africa.

347 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:05:50pm

I think you guys are seeing malice where none exists.

348 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:07:49pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon

I think you guys are seeing malice where none exists.

Malice or not… it still adds up to a malicious attack.

349 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:08:18pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon

I think you guys are seeing malice where none exists.

I don’t think this bull rises to malice, but I’ll accept that until I find a better term.

350 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:08:23pm

re: #343 Naso Tang

Education at this stage in life? What education did they get before being elected?/

Political Education. Many GOP freshmen came to DC expecting a “charge to victory”. One thing they need to learn is that this will not be possible. Cutting spending is a war of attrition instead. Much harder and far less glamorous.

351 Achilles Tang  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:09:59pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

I was thinking more of economics education.

352 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:17:26pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon

I think you guys are seeing malice where none exists.

Oh, so it’s a Hanlon’s razor thing? That makes me feel a whole lot better :P

353 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:17:54pm

re: #351 Naso Tang

I was thinking more of economics education.

First things first. First you have to show them the true nature of Congress, then you have to see how many are willing to take the red pill and actually work to get things done.

354 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:20:24pm

re: #349 Decatur Deb

I don’t think this bull rises to malice, but I’ll accept that until I find a better term.

I can’t tell if that’s a typo for “bill”, or the actual word you meant to use. Either way, it’s a thing of beauty :)

355 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:27:50pm

Reading the “Hill” article, the proposal in creases DoD spending, cuts 750M each from WIC and FEMA.

356 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:34:34pm

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Reading the “Hill” article, the proposal in creases DoD spending, cuts 750M each from WIC and FEMA.

FEMA is not well liked in Congress.

357 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:39:34pm

re: #356 Dark_Falcon

FEMA is not well liked in Congress.

Will be after the next hurricane. Besides, who will run the camps?

358 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:43:01pm

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Reading the “Hill” article, the proposal in creases DoD spending, cuts 750M each from WIC and FEMA.

You mean this article?
[Link: thehill.com…]

Here’s a PDF that goes along with it that summarizes the cuts:
[Link: thehill.com…]

359 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:52:47pm

re: #358 freetoken

You mean this article?
[Link: thehill.com…]

Here’s a PDF that goes along with it that summarizes the cuts:
[Link: thehill.com…]

Yes. Thanks

360 freetoken  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:52:53pm

According to that PDF, one of the things the GOP wants to cut is $350 million for “Customs and Border Protection - Border Security Fencing, Infrastructure, and Technology”.

Yeah, so much for all their hoopla about building fences and immigration…

Indeed, DHS looks like it is taking quite a hit overall.

I think this is probably some canny political maneuvering on the part of Boehner, Rogers, and Cantor.

361 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:55:21pm

Debate can’t start before Tuesday.

362 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:56:21pm

Midnight here, ‘Nite, all.

363 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 11, 2011 10:00:15pm

re: #360 freetoken

According to that PDF, one of the things the GOP wants to cut is $350 million for “Customs and Border Protection - Border Security Fencing, Infrastructure, and Technology”.

Yeah, so much for all their hoopla about building fences and immigration…

Indeed, DHS looks like it is taking quite a hit overall.

I think this is probably some canny political maneuvering on the part of Boehner, Rogers, and Cantor.

Agreed. They’re saying to the rebels “This is what your cuts look like. This is how they’ll hurt your reelection chances. Still want ‘em?” The bet is that most of the Tea Party aligned congresspeople will then fall into line. Those that won’t will be of two groups:

1. Those who don’t really want to understand the situation, but just want to get their spending cuts. Those are simply delusional, and there’s not much you can do when someone is simply indifferent to reality.

2. Those who see the pain and damage to their reelection the cuts will bring, but still think they are needed. It’s necessary to give some honor to this second group: They may be wrong, but at least they have honest convictions the courage of them. That’s worth something and some of them may be brought around in time.

364 Obdicut  Sat, Feb 12, 2011 6:40:00am

re: #363 Dark_Falcon

There is no honor in terrible convictions.


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