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The Brick House was one of the toughest joints I ever played in … Guys would drink and fight one another like circle saws. Bottles would come flying over the bandstand like crazy and there was lots of plain common shooting and cutting. But somehow all that jive didn’t faze me at all. I was so happy to have some place to blow my horn.

Louis Armstrong

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1 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:23:40pm

Satchmo had to put up with a mosh pit?

2 Bob Dillon  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:23:51pm

Yeah - and as crazy and dysfunctional as this world is now - I'm happy to be in it to blow mine.

3 Kronocide  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:23:51pm

I want to be happy like Louie.

4 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:24:39pm

re: #3 BigPapa

I want to be happy like Louie.

Weed. Lots and lots of weed.

/seriously, I think he smoked a lot

5 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:25:49pm

re: #4 Pawn of the Oppressor

/seriously, I think he smoked a lot

He sounded as though he could have used a lozenge.

6 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:26:28pm

George Micheal must've been happy when the though he found someone somewhere to blow his horn.

Too bad it was a public bathroom.

7 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:26:29pm

re: #1 Abu Al-Poopypants

Satchmo had to put up with a mosh pit?

I looked up "The Brick House" and it was (is?) in Gretna, LA - south side of the river, NOLA.

Was New Orleans ever not rough?

8 Sharmuta  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:28:58pm

Drunks are mean

9 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:29:30pm

♪♫The lady's stacked and that's a fact,
ain't holding nothing back.
♪♫

10 WindHorse  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:29:30pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

huh?

11 Gus  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:29:52pm

Louis Armstrong - Danny Kaye

12 WindHorse  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:30:22pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

sorry....

13 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:30:47pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I'm more of a sleepy drunk.

14 Karagush  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:37:05pm

everyone go sleepies?

15 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:38:39pm

re: #14 Karagush

And here I am all out of Bacardi.

/must I break the seal on my Jeagermeister?

16 IslandLibertarian  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:41:19pm

re: #15 Fenway_Nation

Jeagermeister.........desperate huh?

no turpentine? lighter fluid? paint you can sniff?

17 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:42:23pm

re: #16 IslandLibertarian

There's always pineapple juice and Kamchatcka.

18 IslandLibertarian  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:45:02pm

You got vodka? geeesus.......ice it up and sip away.........Jeagermeister is for when there is nothing else.

19 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:45:54pm

Fat lesbian neighbor doesn't know it was me. She took the wire frame from her usual gay marriage sings and made a sign that simply said "Thank You" and posted it on her lawn tonight.

20 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:46:38pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

Drunks are mean

hey!
/offended
//sarc

21 freetoken  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:47:20pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Fat lesbian Fully figured Zen gardening neighbor doesn't know [...]

FIFY

22 srb1976  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:48:52pm

So much for sleep....time for drugs and 2 am fruit loops (yum)

23 calcajun  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:49:24pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Not me--I'm a happy drunk. 'Cept on Memorial Day--then I get misty.

24 calcajun  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:50:48pm

re: #7 Pawn of the Oppressor

Nope. You had to be careful where ever you were.

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:51:35pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

That you did what you did shows that you are a good person. That you did it without making a point to let her know it was you, that makes you exceptional.

/but you still stink
;P

26 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:52:12pm

Well shit....now I'm sleepy without the benefit of vodka consumption

*sigh*

27 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:53:31pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Fat lesbian neighbor doesn't know it was me.


It was you, what?

28 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:56:18pm

Didn't a lot of those jazz guys like drinking scotch with milk in it? some weird drink like that?

29 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:56:48pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

I spent this afternoon taking to some very interesting people. They're a gay charity that does work with gay friendly churches and organizations. They can get her a wheelchair ramp and even a hot tub in the backyard for bathing. They can also arrange for counseling, financial assistance and some healthcare stuff.
The most awkward thing was the uncomfortable emails between my ex-boss and I. We really don't like each other much but once I explained the situation to him he decided to help.

30 srb1976  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:56:53pm

It's probably a holdover from that fuzzy period right after high school, but 2am fruit loops are good for the soul sometmes

31 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:58:04pm

Hello, late night peeps!
I kinda feel like a shower, after reading the previous thread.
I thought the fossil was cool.

32 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 19, 2009 11:59:01pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

You're probably safer that way.
From future requests......

33 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, May 20th:

Highlights of this day in history: Charles Lindbergh begins his trans-Atlantic flight; Amelia Earhart starts her trek across the Atlantic; Freedom Riders attacked in the South; Explorer Christopher Columbus, comedienne Gilda Radner die.

Other notable May 20th events include:

325 – The First Council of Nicaea – the first Ecumenical Council of the Christian Church is held.

1498 – Portuguese explorer Vasco da Gama arrives at Kozhikode (previously known as Calicut), India.

1570 – Cartographer Abraham Ortelius issues the first modern atlas.

1609 – Shakespeare's Sonnets are first published in London, perhaps illicitly, by the publisher Thomas Thorpe.

1813 – Napoleon Bonaparte leads his French troops into the Battle of Bautzen in Saxony, Germany, against the combined armies of Russia and Prussia. The battle ends the next day with a French victory.

1862 – U.S. President Abraham Lincoln signs the Homestead Act into law.

1891 – History of cinema: The first public display of Thomas Edison's prototype kinetoscope.

1902 – Cuba gains independence from the United States. Tomás Estrada Palma becomes the first President of Cuba.

1916 – The Saturday Evening Post publishes its first cover with a Norman Rockwell painting ("Boy with Baby Carriage").

1940 – Holocaust: The first prisoners arrive at a new concentration camp at Auschwitz.

1989 – The Chinese authorities declare martial law in the face of pro-democracy demonstrations, setting the scene for the Tiananmen Square massacre.

34 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:00:37am

re: #32 Floral Giraffe

Yes, I'm very happy to stay completely anonymous in this situation.

35 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:01:40am

Hello

36 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:03:37am

hi af

37 MrPaulRevere  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:03:40am

Well I just learned as someone who pays his credit card bills on time and gets 1-2% cash back on my purchases I'm about to take it in the neck. This demented administration seems intent on punishing people who do the right thing. I miss Bill Clinton. There, I said it.

38 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:03:57am

Chicago!

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:03:59am

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Wow. Contacting an ex-employer that dislikes you to help a neighbor that I assume barely knows you?

Keep this up and you are going to ruin all your "evil atheist ogre, commie liberal loon" cred.

/i'm teasing a bit here, if you can't tell

40 WindHorse  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:04:17am

Hello Wednesday.

41 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:05:50am

re: #37 MrPaulRevere

I miss Bill Clinton. There, I said it.

Upding 'cuz I'm starting to feel the same way. Never thought it possible.

42 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:06:35am

Oh no....something woke the baby....back in few

43 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:07:05am

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

Upding 'cuz I'm starting to feel the same way. Never thought it possible.

Heh, the ex always looks better after you wake up with crabs from the few whores you slept with./

44 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:07:12am

AC, i heard from a out of town friend who will be here for lunch on thursday that you are invited too? Cool!. The place is within walking distance of me so i'll be there

45 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:09:59am

re: #44 chicagodudewhotrades

AC, i heard from a out of town friend who will be here for lunch on thursday that you are invited too? Cool!. The place is within walking distance of me so i'll be there

No, I was about to ask you about that. My colleague got sick today and she was supposed to take a meeting with a curator but now, I have to do it. I have a meeting at 10. That is Thursday right? What time is the lunch because I dont think I can make it to the Northside by 12.

46 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:10:40am

poor kid....woke up with a full diaper....no wonder

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:11:04am

re: #43 Afrocity

Ha! Jokes on you. I swore off whores because of my ex.
/

48 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:12:41am

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

Ha! Jokes on you. I swore off whores because of my ex.
/

but I bet it still burns when you pee and think about her/

49 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:12:43am

re: #45 Afrocity


it is around 130 pm.

50 MrPaulRevere  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:13:15am

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

I try to be open minded and fair etc... But it seems to me that this administration rewards irresponsibility and punishes those who do the right thing. I get $300 a year cash back from my card, admittedly not a large sum. But it still matters to me.

51 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:13:32am

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks slumbering you got my Karma up to 3,300

52 wiffersnapper  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:14:54am

I've seen skies of blue, fields of white.

53 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:14:54am

re: #49 chicagodudewhotrades

it is around 130 pm.

okay...I am gonna try to make it. Does the red line run there?

54 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:16:31am

re: #53 Afrocity


yeah, get off at argyle. if this is the place i'm thinking of, it will be on the west side of Broadway

55 SixDegrees  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:16:39am

re: #37 MrPaulRevere

Well I just learned as someone who pays his credit card bills on time and gets 1-2% cash back on my purchases I'm about to take it in the neck. This demented administration seems intent on punishing people who do the right thing. I miss Bill Clinton. There, I said it.

Details?

56 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:16:49am

re: #2 Bobibutu

Yeah - and as crazy and dysfunctional as this world is now - I'm happy to be in it to blow mine.

damn: you're flexible.....

/white smoke

57 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:17:08am

re: #53 Afrocity

okay...I am gonna try to make it. Does the red line run there?

i've got a line?

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:18:14am

re: #48 Afrocity

You may find this hard to believe, but I have never had an STD. I sometimes find it hard to believe myself. Not 'cuz I'm a playa (I never have been), but 'cuz I have made some poor choices in girlfriends.

59 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:18:55am

re: #54 chicagodudewhotrades

yeah, get off at argyle. if this is the place i'm thinking of, it will be on the west side of Broadway

EWW Argyle? Okay i will break my rule of not going North of Addison.

60 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:19:43am

re: #23 calcajun

Not me--I'm a happy drunk. 'Cept on Memorial Day--then I get misty.

and 11NOV, right?

61 MrPaulRevere  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:20:20am

re: #55 SixDegrees

Credit card reform becomes opportunity to hammer good customers: [Link: www.latimes.com...]

62 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:20:40am

So I am happy finally gonna met some lizards!

63 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:21:03am

re: #59 Afrocity


lol. kinda like my rule of not going south past jackson

64 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:22:11am

re: #33 gmsc

gmsc, I believe that these lists come right off the top of your head without reference materials. Furthermore I believe you are reference material. :)

65 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:22:28am

re: #62 Afrocity


[Link: www.transitchicago.com...]

66 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:23:18am

re: #63 chicagodudewhotrades

Lol. That used to be my rule too. I was a Lincoln Park gal. Then I moved to NYC for 10 years and now in the South Loop. Never thought I would have a number street associated with my address until now.

67 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:24:33am

re: #66 Afrocity

yeah, life long north sider. only time i go south of loop is on the orange line to midway

68 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:25:51am

re: #65 chicagodudewhotrades

Dude, I am not that inept. I just thought it was closer to Rush street.
I hope the food is good and it is clean...sorry, had some bad experiences at restaurants on Wilson and Throndale streets so I get leery of upper northside.
Rogers Park is ok.

69 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:26:51am

Downstairs, the action keeps rolling on... Certainly Charles stepped on toes by criticizing Limbaugh.

Enjoy the flow...

Meanwhile, I'm still working on the Zen ---> lesbianism connection. Hard to wrap my mind around it.

70 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:27:48am

Ok...apologize for the play-by-play, but I was a little suprised when Her Royal Stoutness woke up.... for the most part we're long past that stage

71 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:28:02am

re: #64 BatGuano

gmsc, I believe that these lists come right off the top of your head without reference materials. Furthermore I believe you are reference material. :)

Yep! And I make the videos 15 minutes before hand, and add the Associated Press logo just to throw people off.

;)

72 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:29:11am

re: #71 gmsc

I knew it!

73 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:29:12am

re: #68 Afrocity


There is a Gamestop store on broadway close to the restaurant. If this is the restaurant I have walked by on the way to the store, it should be a good choice. I should have suggested 'flat top grill' to our friend. All you can eat with a huge amount of choice

74 SixDegrees  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:29:17am

re: #61 MrPaulRevere

Credit card reform becomes opportunity to hammer good customers: [Link: www.latimes.com...]

Yeah, exactly what I predicted a few weeks ago. Congress is giving the banks until next year to get in compliance with their "reform" package, and in response the banks will use that time to completely rejigger their credit card agreements to screw their customers out of as much money as possible and get the contract changes grandfathered in before the new regulations kick in. And of course, customer like you and me - the ones who never carry a balance, and pay their card off on time or early - are the ones most likely to be screwed. We're not the ones the banks are making money off of.

One upside: since I carry a zero balance from month to month, switching companies is trivially easy. It's still easy to find other banks who will take a balance transfer and issue a "teaser" rate of a couple percent for a year or so on the transfer amount, so what I might do is make a large purchase on the card that's pissing me off, then immediately yank the balance away from them, then pay the balance off long before the teaser expires, depriving all the banks involved of profit.

Or, I could go back to using cash or checks. Just not very convenient.

Keep a close eye on the mail these bastards send you. They will be doing everything they can to jack their rates and terms around on you in the coming months. Especially since we will be seeing a wave of credit card defaults start to wash over the economy over the next six months or so.

75 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:30:11am

re: #73 chicagodudewhotrades

Fogo De Chao /

76 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:30:58am
77 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:31:07am

re: #72 BatGuano

I knew it!

Cool! By the way, are you in the market for a bridge?
;)

78 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:32:56am

re: #76 Iron Fist

I think I can go back to sleep now. ...

I seem to have that effect on men

79 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:32:57am

re: #75 Afrocity


I haven't been there yet. but since i'm a carnivore i need to check that place out

80 MrPaulRevere  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:34:42am

re: #74 SixDegrees

Sage advice, thank you. I do have to say I resent being required to play all of these games however.

81 Afrocity  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:35:00am

Ok lets see if I can fall to sleep. I have a nice lake view a cute cuddly cat at my side. sleep would be good.

82 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:35:59am

re: #77 gmsc

Cool! By the way, are you in the market for a bridge?
;)

Naw. I've bought several already. Just waiting for that toll money to start rolling in.

83 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:37:41am

re: #82 BatGuano

Naw. I've bought several already. Just waiting for that toll money to start rolling in.

But this one has a great story to go with it . . .

84 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:38:38am

re: #76 Iron Fist

I think I can go back to sleep now. It's been a damn depressing day, hasn't it Guys and Dolls? I may be back if I can't get to sleep...

have another drink first......

/and some fruit cup!

85 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:40:29am

The previous thread is still going strong. I would like to contribute but I'm a'scurred. It gets nasty over there.

86 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:42:33am

Ok...drugs seem to be working, baby girl cleaned up and back asleep, maybe I can get to sleep this time

/sleeping half the day makes it tough to sleep @ night, there's gotta be a better way to come off of night shift.

87 freedomplow  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:43:32am

re: #69 freetoken

Downstairs, the action keeps rolling on... Certainly Charles stepped on toes by criticizing Limbaugh.

Enjoy the flow...

Meanwhile, I'm still working on the Zen ---> lesbianism connection. Hard to wrap my mind around it.

You cant get your head around it.

88 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:43:36am

re: #83 gmsc

Remember the "Bowery Boys", Huntz Hall and Leo Gorcey?

89 freedomplow  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:44:45am

re: #76 Iron Fist

I think I can go back to sleep now. It's been a damn depressing day, hasn't it Guys and Dolls? I may be back if I can't get to sleep...

You giving up?

90 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:45:16am
91 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:46:47am

re: #88 BatGuano

Remember the "Bowery Boys", Huntz Hall and Leo Gorcey?

I tried to watch a few of those, but I could never get into it.

It's been a while. Maybe it's time to give them another look. I'd probably get more of the humor now.

92 Syrah  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:46:56am

re: #90 pimp_conservative

It is rather sad what these forums have become.

You don't have to be a part of them.

93 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:47:30am

re: #85 BatGuano

It seems very odd to me. I find this as no surprise. Go figure.

94 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:47:43am

re: #85 BatGuano

The previous thread is still going strong. I would like to contribute but I'm a'scurred. It gets nasty over there.

load up with rubber bullets......

95 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:49:25am

re: #90 pimp_conservative

It is rather sad what these forums have become.

don't let the door hit you where your head apparently is.....

96 Gus  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:50:54am

re: #95 redc1c4

don't let the door hit you where your head apparently is.....

The loser moved up to this thread? Damn. What a freak.

97 freedomplow  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:51:19am

Once in a while I like to tell people that I have the hottest neighbor ever.

Do you know how cool that is?

Not just a little hot.
Super hot.

98 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:51:36am

re: #91 gmsc

I tried to watch a few of those, but I could never get into it.

It's been a while. Maybe it's time to give them another look. I'd probably get more of the humor now.

Try the Bogart movie, "Dead End" first. They were in it and they were called The Dead End Kids. Later, they were the Bowery Boys.

99 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:53:35am

re: #94 redc1c4

Thanks, Red. I haven't heard that in about 35 years.

100 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:54:12am

re: #96 Gus 802

The loser moved up to this thread? Damn. What a freak.

He's going to be really confused at about 5 AM Eastern/2 AM Pacific.

Heh, heh.

101 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:55:08am

re: #99 BatGuano

Thanks, Red. I haven't heard that in about 35 years.

%-)

it's hell getting old. %-)

102 Opilio  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:56:15am

re: #101 redc1c4

%-)

it's hell getting old. %-)

beats the alternative.

103 Gus  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:56:16am

re: #100 gmsc

He's going to be really confused at about 5 AM Eastern/2 AM Pacific.

Heh, heh.

He'll probably check from his cubicle location since he's 33 years old -- or something. He initially came on with a meltdown post comparing Charles to Andrew Sullivan which is what the stalker freaks do. Then he stuck around which seems to be for an hour now.

104 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:56:54am

re: #101 redc1c4

%-)

it's hell getting old. %-)

/Thanks for reminding me. :0

105 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:58:34am

re: #102 Opilio

Your nic is also pi.

106 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:59:10am

re: #105 BatGuano

I mean, avatar.

107 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:59:20am

re: #102 Opilio

beats the alternative.

some days, i'm not so sure....

108 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:59:26am

re: #105 BatGuano

Your nic is also pi.

re: #106 BatGuano

I mean, avatar.

Only approximately.
;)

109 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:00:06am

re: #103 Gus 802

He'll probably check from his cubicle location since he's 33 years old -- or something. He initially came on with a meltdown post comparing Charles to Andrew Sullivan which is what the stalker freaks do. Then he stuck around which seems to be for an hour now.

the pipe wrench will be entertaining.....

110 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:01:19am

re: #108 gmsc

Only approximately.
;)

My T.I 1750 calculator only goes to 6 digits , smart ass!

111 Opilio  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:01:35am

re: #105 BatGuano

Your nic is also pi.

Why I guess I do have pi in my nic, don't I.

112 Gus  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:02:24am

re: #109 redc1c4

the pipe wrench will be entertaining.....

The crack pipe wrench. He's still logged in.

113 Opilio  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:04:20am

re: #110 BatGuano

My T.I 1750 calculator only goes to 6 digits , smart ass!

My avatar goes to 11.* (actually it only matches pi to 7 decimal places, but that's not bad for such a simple fraction.)

* Spinal Tap reference

114 Abu Kuffar  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:05:47am

re: #90 pimp_conservative

You don't have to post here, if you don't like it.

115 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:08:11am

re: #113 Opilio

My avatar goes to 11.* (actually it only matches pi to 7 decimal places, but that's not bad for such a simple fraction.)

* Spinal Tap reference

It goes to 11? Spinal Tap? Is that the mockumentary that I have on both VHS as well as DVD? :) I love a Spinal Tap reference!

116 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:09:31am

re: #113 Opilio

My avatar goes to 11.* (actually it only matches pi to 7 decimal places, but that's not bad for such a simple fraction.)

* Spinal Tap reference

Tried to upding you twice. Doesn't work.

117 Abu Kuffar  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:12:01am

re: #116 BatGuano

Did you try to refresh the page?

118 Opilio  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:12:50am

re: #115 BatGuano

Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!

119 ShanghaiEd  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:13:22am

re: #90 pimp_conservative

It is rather sad you refuse to answer my #621 in the previous thread.

120 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:14:33am

re: #117 Abu Kuffar

Did you try to refresh the page?

I just did but it is still grayed out. It probably wouldn't be fair anyway.

121 Opilio  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:15:16am

re: #116 BatGuano

Tried to upding you twice. Doesn't work.

Charles doesn't want anyone abusing their dinger around here. ;)

122 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:16:09am

re: #118 Opilio

Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!

Hmmm. Where have I heard that before? lol.

123 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:19:58am

re: #121 Opilio

Charles doesn't want anyone abusing their dinger around here. ;)

How about this Dinghy?

124 MrPaulRevere  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:20:17am

Posted in memory of Petty Officer 2nd Class Danny Dietz. Men like this should never be forgotten: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

125 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:20:41am

re: #119 ShanghaiEd

It is rather sad. you refuse to answer my #621 in the previous thread.

FTFY!

126 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:21:19am

re: #121 Opilio

Charles doesn't want anyone abusing their dinger around here. ;)

my dingerling, my dingerling......

127 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:22:50am

re: #124 MrPaulRevere

Amen.

128 wiffersnapper  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:23:43am

re: #126 redc1c4

That's not Louis Armstrong!

129 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:24:15am

re: #126 redc1c4

my dingerling, my dingerling......

130 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:25:01am

re: #128 wiffersnapper

That's not Louis Armstrong!

yeah, but that's future parliment out there singin!

131 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:25:08am
132 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:25:39am

re: #124 MrPaulRevere

Posted in memory of Petty Officer 2nd Class Danny Dietz. Men like this should never be forgotten: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

To Absent Comrades.

133 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:26:06am

re: #131 taxfreekiller

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
ceder fever

got it at a buds place
all's he has is dam ceder trees

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

you were smoking buds?

134 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:28:22am

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Night Lizards.

I just finished reading the Rush tread. That was fun. Haven't seen that many meltdowns in a while. I think one more to come when Charles wakes up. :)

135 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:29:10am
136 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:29:55am

re: #129 gmsc

He's still touring!

[Link: chuckberry.com...]

137 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:30:18am
138 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:30:27am

re: #134 Erik The Red

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Night Lizards.

I just finished reading the Rush tread. That was fun. Haven't seen that many meltdowns in a while. I think one more to come when Charles wakes up. :)

Really? I just came in to this thread, and hadn't taken a look at it.

I guess I'll have to take a peek.

139 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:30:36am

re: #135 taxfreekiller

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Back at you.

140 Abu Kuffar  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:30:48am

re: #135 taxfreekiller

Are you angry today?

141 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:31:31am

re: #136 BatGuano

He's still touring!

[Link: chuckberry.com...]

. . . and if you ask most high school kids who Chuck Berry is, you'll get the reply, "Didn't he host the Gong Show?"
;)

142 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:32:21am

re: #139 Erik The Red

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Back at you.

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrG!

143 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:32:27am
144 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:33:07am

re: #141 gmsc

. . . and if you ask most high school kids who Chuck Berry is, you'll get the reply, "Didn't he host the Gong Show?"
;)

like anyone in high school today knows what the "Gong Show" was......

145 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:33:29am

re: #129 gmsc

I was sixteen when this was popular and I thought he was old then. He was 45: 9 years younger than I am now. Geeez.

146 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:33:45am

re: #143 taxfreekiller

ms tfk is getting the astilin and up the nose with it
then the tiellienol, then the bed once more
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

too kinky for me.....

/don't ask, don't tell.

147 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:34:12am

re: #144 redc1c4

like anyone in high school today knows what the "Gong Show" was......

Around here, you occasionally still see the Gong Show.

I just saw the "Popsicle Twins" the other night.

148 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:35:07am

re: #141 gmsc

. . . and if you ask most high school kids who Chuck Berry is, you'll get the reply, "Didn't he host the Gong Show?"
;)

Chuck Barris wrote Palisades Park. But you knew that. :)

149 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:40:57am

Obama, Frank and Polosi are flying on the
Presidential jet to a gathering in California when Frank turns to Obama
and says, chuckling,

'You know, I could throw a $1000 note out the window right now and make
someone very happy .'

Obama shrugs and replies, 'Well, I could throw ten $100 notes out the
window and make ten people happy.'

Not to be outdone, Polosi says, 'Well I could throw a hundred $10 notes
out the window and make a hundred people happy.'

The pilot rolls his eyes and says to his co-pilot, 'Such arrogant jerks
back there. Heck, I could throw all three of them out the window and
make 350 million people happy.'

150 SixDegrees  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:41:15am

re: #90 pimp_conservative

It is rather sad what these forums have become.

Yeah. Rationality really sucks, don't it?

151 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:42:38am

I've suddenly come over all peckish. I need fruit cup.

152 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:43:33am

re: #151 BatGuano

I've suddenly come over all peckish. I need fruit cup.

Wait 15 minutes or so, and think happy thoughts.

153 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:43:55am

post 709 on the last thread..... another one rises from the slime.

/throwing more coals under the grille....


Gamey Buttocks and fruitcup for all!

154 redc1c4  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:44:22am

re: #151 BatGuano

I've suddenly come over all peckish. I need fruit cup.

there's some in the frig.... help yerself.

155 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:47:48am

re: #154 redc1c4

there's some in the frig.... help yerself.

Yeaeeah, after you put you fingers in it.

156 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:50:32am

The floor downstairs has become a gooey, sticky mess from all the meltdowns.

Hopefully LoL can make it soon...

157 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:52:01am

re: #156 freetoken

The floor downstairs has become a gooey, sticky mess from all the meltdowns.

If Shel Silverstein were alive, he would snap that up in a second as inspiration for a poem.

158 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:55:08am

Make what?

/there's gum on the bottom of my sneakers!
//ACK!

159 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:56:03am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Make what?

/there's gum on the bottom of my sneakers!
//ACK!

Of course! Your bubblegum would lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight.

160 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:57:28am

CHEWING gum.

/not bad for a young 'un, though ;-)

161 Mardukhai  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:58:43am

That missing link sure looks a lot like a velociraptor -- with long arms!

162 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 1:59:49am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Make what?

Why... this of course.

163 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:00:17am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

164 Mardukhai  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:00:26am

re: #159 gmsc

It doesn't -- it's got rings on its fingers and bells on its toes and a bone in its nose, ho-ho! (That one sure dates me!)

165 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:00:42am

re: #163 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

{lol} Thanks and Good Morning :)

166 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:00:53am

re: #162 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

NOW you've done it! I'm HUNGRY!

167 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:01:17am

re: #163 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

Yummy! Thank you!

Does fruitcup lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?

168 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:01:31am

Erik! :-)

169 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:01:49am

gmsc! :-)

Typed fresh every morning!

170 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:02:51am

re: #163 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

Thank you littleoldlady!

171 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:03:12am

re: #164 Mardukhai

It doesn't -- it's got rings on its fingers and bells on its toes and a bone in its nose, ho-ho! (That one sure dates me!)

172 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:03:36am

BatGuano! :-)

173 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:04:00am

Thanks, {lol}

174 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:04:16am

re: #163 littleoldlady


Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

I knew we were going to get r..........

175 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:05:30am

SHARMUTA! :-)

176 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:07:05am

re: #96 Gus 802

The loser moved up to this thread? Damn. What a freak.

I actually hit the Report button once he moved over here. I don't usually do that for questionable cases, except that this little turd has nothing to say except how bad this place is and how sad we all are, and won't shut up.

177 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:09:04am

So.... I have lots of bleak-news links to put in the spin-offs... trying to decide which ones to post.

Anyone have a preference on how they would like the world to end?

178 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:09:26am

And then along came LoL,
Little Old LoL,
Fruit-cuppin' LoL,
Ding-Uppin' Lol...

179 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:09:53am

re: #177 freetoken

So.... I have lots of bleak-news links to put in the spin-offs... trying to decide which ones to post.

Anyone have a preference on how they would like the world to end?

Some say by fire, others ice.

180 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:09:53am

re: #177 freetoken

Can I sit in the non-crash-and-burn section?

181 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:10:19am

re: #177 freetoken

So.... I have lots of bleak-news links to put in the spin-offs... trying to decide which ones to post.

Anyone have a preference on how they would like the world to end?

Let's just say that I wouldn't be able to hear it.

182 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:10:24am

re: #177 freetoken

So.... I have lots of bleak-news links to put in the spin-offs... trying to decide which ones to post.

Anyone have a preference on how they would like the world to end?

I got two bucks on mahmood.

183 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:10:34am

re: #171 BatGuano

[Video]

That part about "...a scimitar by his side..." reminds me of an old puzzle.

For a sword to fit in a corresponding scabbard snugly, both must have a uniform cross section.

There are only 3 general types of shapes in which you can make a sword so that it will fit tightly into its scabbard.

The first is the standard straight sword.

The second is the curved blade, like that of the scimitar.

What it the 3rd type of shape?

184 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:10:52am

re: #177 freetoken

So.... I have lots of bleak-news links to put in the spin-offs... trying to decide which ones to post.

Anyone have a preference on how they would like the world to end?

Without GPS being enabled?

185 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:11:26am

re: #180 littleoldlady

Can I sit in the non-crash-and-burn section?

Sure. Just step into the WayBack machine, and...

186 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:11:48am

haakon! :-)

187 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:12:47am

re: #183 gmsc

That part about "...a scimitar by his side..." reminds me of an old puzzle.

For a sword to fit in a corresponding scabbard snugly, both must have a uniform cross section.

There are only 3 general types of shapes in which you can make a sword so that it will fit tightly into its scabbard.

The first is the standard straight sword.

The second is the curved blade, like that of the scimitar.

What it the 3rd type of shape?

OOH! The Null Set!

I went to public school--I know all about this!

188 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:14:41am

re: #183 gmsc

I give up. I am unable to hold a three dimensional object in my head.

189 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:15:01am

re: #187 haakondahl

OOH! The Null Set!

I went to public school--I know all about this!

No, this the swords dilemma, not Sard's lemma.
;)

There is another real shape for a sword that will meet the conditions.

190 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:15:22am

re: #184 gmsc

Well... since you mentioned "GPS", I posted the one from the DailyMail on the new "cold war". It has a neat map that shows the different claims on Arctic territory.

191 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:16:26am

re: #188 BatGuano

I give up. I am unable to hold a three dimensional object in my head.

You wouldn't believe how close you are to the answer.

192 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:18:35am

Sniff, sniff... I smell fruit cup. Tonight I've brought along a little somthing to set the table.

193 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:20:51am

re: #183 gmsc

That part about "...a scimitar by his side..." reminds me of an old puzzle.

For a sword to fit in a corresponding scabbard snugly, both must have a uniform cross section.

There are only 3 general types of shapes in which you can make a sword so that it will fit tightly into its scabbard.

The first is the standard straight sword.

The second is the curved blade, like that of the scimitar.

What it the 3rd type of shape?

...and the mystery 3rd shape is . . . this one!

194 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:21:29am

re: #192 theheat

Wow... few people bring their own lamps.

/You did remember to put the CFL in them, didn't you?

195 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:22:19am

re: #193 gmsc

You mean, we're screwed!

196 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:23:17am

re: #193 gmsc

The inclined plane.

197 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:23:49am

re: #192 theheat

Very nice! :-)

/can we eat that?
//what flavor?

198 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:24:54am

re: #196 BatGuano

The inclined plane.

That would make sword fights interesting (but then, so would the corkscrew).

199 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:25:46am

re: #197 littleoldlady

Very nice! :-)

/can we eat that?
//what flavor?

Lamps are only for those who want to eat light.

200 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:26:11am

Q: What’s the difference between a Fiat and a Jehovah’s Witness?

A: You can’t close the door on a Fiat.

201 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:26:19am

re: #199 gmsc

GROAN!

202 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:27:17am

re: #194 freetoken

Don't even get me started. Mr. Heat has OCD about that kind of thing. I can't enjoy so much as those tiny little 5w candelabra lights in an accent lamp without him trying to figure out how to screw in one of those big, fugly fluorescent bulbs in its place.

Last time he replaced one of my dainty lights with one of those things, the base toppled over and broke the new $5 bulb he managed to cram in there.

Serves him right ;-)

203 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:28:13am

re: #200 gmsc

Q: What’s the difference between a Fiat and a Jehovah’s Witness?

A: You can’t close the door on a Fiat.

Maybe the hook up with GM will fix that problem.
somehow I doubt it tho.

204 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:28:20am

re: #197 littleoldlady

Mango! (I think licking lamps is some kind of disorder, isn't it?)

205 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:30:55am

re: #202 theheat

You could have poisoned your family with that! :-(

206 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:31:47am

re: #198 gmsc

That would make sword fights interesting (but then, so would the corkscrew).

Isn't a screw an inclined plane twisted into a shaft?

207 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:34:03am

re: #205 littleoldlady

He keeps changing all my light bulbs, I'll start flavoring all the lamps around the house.

208 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:34:10am

re: #206 BatGuano

Isn't a screw an inclined plane twisted into a shaft?

True.

209 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:34:23am

re: #202 theheat

Yikes....

/perhaps he should have tried LEDs instead?

210 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:37:59am

re: #206 BatGuano

Isn't a screw an inclined plane twisted into a shaft?

Do you know that you just set off a record number of alarms, as filters the world over tried to parse that sentence?

211 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:39:27am

Well... think I'll go over to Hulu.com and see if I can find anything to entertain me before I go to sleep...

じゃまた。。。

212 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:40:57am

Oohh.... just in to Hulu.com, Stargate season 3!

/happy dreams...

213 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:41:58am

re: #210 haakondahl

Do you know that you just set off a record number of alarms, as filters the world over tried to parse that sentence?

Speaking of twisted. My sides ache and I'm choking laughing so hard. I never looked at it that way! :)

214 littleoldlady  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:42:07am

'Night, freetoken! :-)

I have to get moving, too... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

215 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:42:26am

re: #211 freetoken

Well... think I'll go over to Hulu.com and see if I can find anything to entertain me before I go to sleep...

じゃまた。。&# x3002;

mata yo.

216 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:42:52am

re: #209 freetoken

Are you kidding? He stocks up on those fluorescent bulbs like he's ready for the End of Days. Whenever they're on sale, off he goes, like he's on a hunting trip. Bags 'em and tags 'em, and brings them home by the bag-full.

I've tried other bulbs, even a couple LEDs, but the minute my back is turned, I see he's quietly replaced them from his stockpile of fluorescents. Honestly, it's become like an episode of Spy vs. Spy (Mad Magazine).

Police: "So, Ma'am, just why is it again you beat your husband to death with a candlestick?"

Me: "I told him, 'You mess with my light bulbs one more freakin' time, Buddy...'"

Police: "We understand completely."

217 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:43:12am

government school teachers unintelligent, untrained, unprepared

http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_1…

Nearly three-quarters of the aspiring elementary school teachers who took the state’s licensing exam this year failed the … math section…

Color me shocked.

“The high failure rate puts a shining light on a deficiency in teacher-prep programs,” said Tom Scott, executive director of the Massachusetts Association of School Superintendents.

So, wait … when a person has gone through 12 years of government schools from K through 12, then goes through college, and still doesn’t know enough basic math to teach, say, addition, or fractions to 7 year olds … the problem is one of teacher preparation?

Seems to me that the problem is the shockingly low IQs of teachers combined with the absolute abysmal education that the government doles out in its children warehousing facilities…

The Massachusetts Teachers Association, the state’s largest teachers union … questioned yesterday whether the new math test was a true indicator of how much elementary school teachers know in math.

Of course they did.

The high failure rates could cause difficulty for some schools in filling positions, especially in special education, where the state faces a critical shortage of teachers.

…at which point a sane, non-corrupt person would say “maybe we should throw out the Masters of Education requirement, and just see who can pass these tests and wants to teach.”

In response, Chester is asking the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education today to approve a temporary measure, effective for the next three years, that would allow test takers who just miss the passing mark on the math section to receive initial teaching licenses. Those teachers, however, will be required to retake and pass the test within five years. If approved, the change would bump up the March pass rate by 15 percentage points to 42 percent.

So 27% of teachers passed.

An additional 15% got “high failures” - say, somewhere between 50 and 60 points out of 100.

…and 58% of teachers got “low failures” ?!?!?

Amazing.

You can see why people this incompetent would (a) form unions; (b) petition government; (c) always put their own desires ahead of the childrens’ needs - if they actually tried to compete on their skills, they wouldn’t be earning $70k/year plus pensions, plus 16 weeks of vacation per year … they’d be doing some sort of skill-appropriate work like selling French fries at McDonalds…

218 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:43:16am

re: #214 littleoldlady

Good night, littleoldlady!

219 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:44:08am

re: #213 BatGuano

Speaking of twisted. My sides ache and I'm choking laughing so hard. I never looked at it that way! :)

People accuse me of "racing to the gutter" at every opportunity. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I simply examine what splashes in here.

220 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:44:26am

re: #214 littleoldlady

'Night, freetoken! :-)

I have to get moving, too... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

Good day, littleoldlady!

221 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:44:36am

re: #214 littleoldlady

Good night, sleep tight!

222 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:49:49am

re: #219 haakondahl

People accuse me of "racing to the gutter" at every opportunity. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I simply examine what splashes in here.

That's okay. That was a good one.

223 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:52:01am

Paging Bill Simon

I am terrified that Obama will feel the need to bail out California. I can’t possibly think of a worse use of my money, nor a worse precedent for the future. Does anyone think that, in retrospect, Bill Simon’s refusing to bail out New York City was the wrong decision. NYC is not what I could call financially responsible, but they are paragons of virtue compared to what they were in the 1970’s, and would have been had they not been forced to take ownership of their budget problems.

Postscript: My prediciton if Obama intervenes: bondholders will get 10 cents on the dollar, and the SEIU will be given 55% ownership of California.

224 gmsc  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:55:16am

Good night, all!

225 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:56:21am

re: #224 gmsc

Good night, all!

Nite gmsc :)

226 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:56:23am

I just noticed. Google has "IDA" as a graphic at [Link: www.google.com...]

227 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:56:48am

re: #224 gmsc

Good night, all!

Good night gmsc!

228 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:01:02am

re: #226 BatGuano

Good find! Unfortunately, this only muddies the love/hate relationship I have with Google ignoring other important historical dates outright.

Clever bastards, they are.

229 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:03:13am

Morning Lizards.

230 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:04:38am

re: #229 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Morning rs.

231 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:04:56am

re: #229 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Good morning, rightside.

232 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:05:03am

re: #229 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Morning! Mind the gamey buttocks.

233 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:07:00am

re: #90 pimp_conservative

Congratulations, you are my 1000th troll report.

Stinky Beaumont will give you your award in the morning.

234 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:07:06am

re: #228 theheat

Good find! Unfortunately, this only muddies the love/hate relationship I have with Google ignoring other important historical dates outright.

Clever bastards, they are.

They're very selective about what the put up. They are not into the patriotic thing.

235 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:07:08am

re: #230 Erik The Red

re: #231 BatGuano

re: #232 haakondahl

good morning to you all. Gamey troll buttocks?

236 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:07:45am

re: #229 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Yeah, right. What's so good about it? *grumble*

/ is it sarcasm, or is it memorex?

237 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:08:31am

re: #235 rightside

re: #231 BatGuano

re: #232 haakondahl

good morning to you all. Gamey troll buttocks?

Last thread. 6 got the stick and when Charles wakes up another 2 will be on their way

238 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:08:51am

re: #235 rightside

re: #231 BatGuano

re: #232 haakondahl

good morning to you all. Gamey troll buttocks?

One aisle over in the fresh meat section.

239 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:09:29am

re: #237 Erik The Red

Last thread. 6 got the stick and when Charles wakes up another 2 will be on their way

6 in the Rush Limbaugh thread?!? Yowzers!

240 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:09:58am

re: #236 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am careful not to add "good" to my mornings. I'll let the lizards decide that themselves.

241 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:10:26am

re: #237 Erik The Red

That's why I avoid those threads like the plague.

242 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:10:51am

re: #239 FurryOldGuyJeans

6 in the Rush Limbaugh thread?!? Yowzers!

Go read it. Makes good reading.

243 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:11:15am

re: #240 rightside

I am careful not to add "good" to my mornings. I'll let the lizards decide that themselves.

A man just like me. Mornings are, good is for booze and women. ;)

244 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:11:30am

re: #241 rightside

That's why I avoid those threads like the plague.

I don't post on them to often. But it is sure fun to watch. :)

245 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:12:21am

re: #241 rightside

That's why I avoid those threads like the plague.

Good decision. That is where new lizards go to die.

246 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:12:59am

re: #242 Erik The Red

Go read it. Makes good reading.

I have noticed it takes more and more to smoke the little bastards trolls out any more.

247 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:14:49am

re: #245 BatGuano

Good decision. That is where new lizards go to die.

You have been around long enough Bat. Go live on the wild side :)

248 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:14:53am

re: #234 BatGuano

Didn't they miss Veteran's Day, 9/11, or Memorial Day, or all of them last year? I know a couple of them got the cold shoulder, at least. Pissed me the hell off, is all I remember for sure.

249 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:15:31am

re: #242 Erik The Red

Go read it. Makes good reading.

Any particular spot I should start reading from? 700+ comments is a bit much to read without spending a lot of time doing so.

250 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:16:29am

re: #249 FurryOldGuyJeans

Any particular spot I should start reading from? 700+ comments is a bit much to read without spending a lot of time doing so.

I started at the top. Give me a minute or two and I will tell you where to start.

251 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:16:44am

That downstairs thread won't die, I tell ya!

252 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:17:52am

re: #251 Sharmuta

That downstairs thread won't die, I tell ya!

Wanna bet something about it gets mentioned on Rush's show today?

253 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:17:52am

re: #247 Erik The Red

You have been around long enough Bat. Go live on the wild side :)

Hell no. I wanna live a little longer!

254 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:18:54am

re: #253 BatGuano

Hell no. I wanna live a little longer!

Wimp! ;)

255 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:19:18am

In case you missed it, as I posted earlier "Ida" is a star.
re: #226 BatGuano

I just noticed. Google has "IDA" as a graphic at [Link: www.google.com...]

256 Erik The Red  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:19:23am

re: #249 FurryOldGuyJeans

Any particular spot I should start reading from? 700+ comments is a bit much to read without spending a lot of time doing so.

Start here.

Just look for the -ive karma after that. 6 got the stick and 2 more will when Charles wakes up.

257 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:20:21am

re: #248 theheat

Didn't they miss Veteran's Day, 9/11, or Memorial Day, or all of them last year? I know a couple of them got the cold shoulder, at least. Pissed me the hell off, is all I remember for sure.

I think they missed it all. They have priorities that don't match mine.

258 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:20:50am

re: #256 Erik The Red

Start here.

Just look for the -ive karma after that. 6 got the stick and 2 more will when Charles wakes up.

Meltdowns started early, I see. #133.

259 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:21:00am

re: #254 FurryOldGuyJeans

Wimp! ;)

Wimp? Ce'st moi!

260 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:25:49am

re: #251 Sharmuta

I don't know what you put in your Wheaties, but I can sleep well knowing you're out there whacking them with a big stick when they come out of the woodwork. I don't have the intellectual fortitude. In fact, I still have laundry to fold...

Ever think of hanging a garlic wreath out there for them?

261 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:29:13am

re: #258 FurryOldGuyJeans

Meltdowns started early, I see. #133.

Oh, yes. The infamous "pith down" man. It even screwed-up that one.

262 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:32:05am

re: #261 BatGuano

Oh, yes. The infamous "pith down" man. It even screwed-up that one.

The slightly-less-unfortunate cousin of "pith don" man.

263 BatGuano  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:35:06am

re: #262 haakondahl

The slightly-less-unfortunate cousin of "pith don" man.

I sometimes think I'm the" pith don" fossil. Anyway, Good night, Lizards!

264 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:35:50am

re: #262 haakondahl

The slightly-less-unfortunate cousin of "pith don" man.

Don Pith? Isn't he the inventor of the Pith helmet?

265 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:45:41am

re: #264 MandyManners

Don Pith? Isn't he the inventor of the Pith helmet?

Isn't it a piece of good advice to wear the helmet? I seem to recall, "I'd rather be pith don than pith doff".

266 uptight  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:49:39am

Q: Why is Islamic art a bad investment
A: It'll never show a prophet

267 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:49:42am

re: #265 haakondahl

Isn't it a piece of good advice to wear the helmet? I seem to recall, "I'd rather be pith don than pith doff".

That'd get a buncha' dings if you posted that in the middle of the day.

268 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:52:04am

I'm I the only one who thinks that the hotels.com commercial is icky? One guy is being carried by two others down a hall. The next bit shows a man in a bubble-filled bath with two guys blowing into straws at his feet while the first guy leans back very relaxed.

269 freetoken  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:56:28am

re: #268 MandyManners

Probably Zen gardeners.

270 SixDegrees  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:58:40am

re: #261 BatGuano

Oh, yes. The infamous "pith down" man. It even screwed-up that one.

It's odd to see that creationists take the Piltdown story - an incident that very vaguely supports their notion that science isn't infallible - and proceed to construct lie after lie after lie around it nonetheless. It's as though they have become so inured to lying that they are incapable of saying anything truthful anymore.

In the end, of course, the Piltdown tale is a tale of the triumph of the scientific method and the peer review process, so it's usefulness as a creationist support is nil. It's not a bad cautionary tale, however, which makes it odd that creationists ruin even that mild effect through obvious prevarication that renders everything coming after it suspect.

271 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 3:59:13am

re: #269 freetoken

It's homoerotocism.

272 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:00:16am

re: #268 MandyManners

Sounds creepy. I was kind of surprised the other day, when I was flipping channels and saw an Orbitz commercial with two guys walking on the beach, holding hands. At the bottom of the screen it said gayorbitz.com. I suppose the thought of a gay-targeted travel site never occurred to me. I assumed everyone pretty much traveled the same way, and had the same priorities. Wrong.

But the bubbles and straw thing, that's just kind of creepy. I'm not even sure what it's implying. Seems more... fetishy.

But the idea of my own poolboy has always intrigued me.

273 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:02:49am

re: #267 MandyManners

That'd get a buncha' dings if you posted that in the middle of the day.

First off, it *is* the middle of the day (whatchoo talkin' about, Willis?). Second, I suspect my antipodal nature costs me a lot in Karma.

Bu-u-ut, I have noticed over the last couple of years that the night threads stayed more to my liking, while the day threads changed away from what I was familiar with. You get called names by some guy who has been on LGF for "over six months" and doesn't remember seeing me there in "all that time" a couple of times, and, well, you realize that times have changed.

274 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:07:33am

re: #272 theheat

Sounds creepy. I was kind of surprised the other day, when I was flipping channels and saw an Orbitz commercial with two guys walking on the beach, holding hands. At the bottom of the screen it said gayorbitz.com. I suppose the thought of a gay-targeted travel site never occurred to me. I assumed everyone pretty much traveled the same way, and had the same priorities. Wrong.

But the bubbles and straw thing, that's just kind of creepy. I'm not even sure what it's implying. Seems more... fetishy.

But the idea of my own poolboy has always intrigued me.

Do you live in a large market?

275 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:08:40am

re: #273 haakondahl

First off, it *is* the middle of the day (whatchoo talkin' about, Willis?). Second, I suspect my antipodal nature costs me a lot in Karma.

Bu-u-ut, I have noticed over the last couple of years that the night threads stayed more to my liking, while the day threads changed away from what I was familiar with. You get called names by some guy who has been on LGF for "over six months" and doesn't remember seeing me there in "all that time" a couple of times, and, well, you realize that times have changed.

Yes, the blog has evolved since Charles created it.

What's spring like in Afghanistan?

276 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:10:56am

I used to hit one of the travel sites pretty frequently, until one day I saw a bigger-than-shit menu option for GAY CRUISES! over on the right side of the page. (Why not the left?) I wouldn't go to a site that proclaimed VAGINAL SEX CRUISES anywhere on it. SO I went to another site. But now, Hell if I can remember what the original was (either Orbitz or Travelocity), and whether my fallback was the other of those, or Expedia, or what. I could probably put it together from old e-mail invoices, but I don't think it would make much difference. My guess is it's everywhere.

277 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:13:57am

Hey, Mom! Check out Toby's new trick!

278 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:22:27am

re: #275 MandyManners

Yes, the blog has evolved since Charles created it.

I suppose a compromise would be to call him one-eyed.


What's spring like in Afghanistan?


Right now, quite hot and usually dry. Soon, unbelievably hot and dusty. It's still beautiful, though. And as frustrating as a lot of things are around here, the people are great--both on and off the base. I work with good folks, and we are here to support good folks. And I'm absolutely a true believer in the mission. The more you know about this place, its history, and our involvement or non-involvement over time, the more important this place seems.
So I don't have any heartburn over whether this mission benefits the U.S., keeps Americans safe, etc...--it absolutely does, and we would be fools to let it go by the wayside. And despite my habitual distaste for involving the military in squishy things like "nation-building", the fact is that the State Department can't do it (because of, among other things, the military component to security which is not acceptable--still a work in progress) and somebody has to. That pretty much means us in the military, and if we mess this up bad enough, it gets much worse than if we had never tried.

Anyway, Spring is nice here. Just hot. :-)

279 TheMatrix31  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:22:43am

Gotta have you guys settle something for me...

Pick A or B.

280 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:24:07am

re: #278 haakondahl

What kind of job is State doing there?

281 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:24:17am

re: #279 TheMatrix31

Gotta have you guys settle something for me...

Pick A or B.

C.

282 TheMatrix31  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:25:12am

re: #281 MandyManners

C.

Damn. C was really, really bad.

283 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:25:28am

re: #274 MandyManners

I suppose I do live in a large market. I know ads are broadcast by demographics. Maybe these have been on for awhile, and I only noticed the gayorbitz for the first time. I tend to be oblivious sometimes.

It isn't the two men walking on a beach I found odd, actually. Two guys, two gals - it's what gays are by definition. That in itself wasn't the odd part. It's that ads have become so honed, and web sites so targeted, that is necessitated a separate travel site. A few years ago, who'da thunk it? And then I had to wonder, why is it different to travel if you're gay? If I booked a hotel on gayorbitz.com as a heterosexual female, how would my experience be different from regular orbitz.com? Do I need to prove I'm gay to use their service? Weird.

Makes you wonder.

284 3 wood  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:25:33am

Good morning.

Mixed market yesterday and today looks to be more of the same.

The upshot of the credit card legislation is that credit will get more expensive for everyone, especially the "good" customers who will have their rates and fees raised to subsidize the "bad" customers.

Of course, the paradox of unintended consequences will be that the "good" customers will shift to using cash, debit cards, and checks and the "bad" customers will be left with few to subsidize their slow-pay/no-pay ways.

But this is the Marxist dream, punish success and drag everyone down to the same level of misery.

285 DistantThunder  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:27:00am

RE: Fossil discovery.

I don't know that scientists and the media understand who their audience is in this country. Maybe if we had more science media focused on 6th or 8th grade level of science background, there might be some improvement in popular opinion. I hate to imply that the scientific explanations need to be dumbed down, but essentially we need to meet people where they're at,....and lead them to a more sophisticated understanding. Science appreciation and education is not part of the life of the average adult.

I know I've read this point on science blogs.

286 3 wood  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:27:17am

By the way, when I saw the "missing link" fossil, I thought it was James Carville.

287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:28:37am

re: #277 MandyManners

TOBY!

288 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:30:58am

re: #276 haakondahl

Makes you wonder what the criteria is to book a gay cruise. Is there a written test or ? It's not like you designate your sexual persuasion on your driver's license, like your donor status, or if you need corrective lenses.

/And if they find out you're straight on a gay cruise, do they throw you off the end of the ship into open water?

289 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:31:24am

re: #282 TheMatrix31

Damn. C was really, really bad.

Why was 6 scared of 7?

Because 7 8 9.

290 DistantThunder  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:32:02am

re: #273 haakondahl

First off, it *is* the middle of the day (whatchoo talkin' about, Willis?). Second, I suspect my antipodal nature costs me a lot in Karma.

Bu-u-ut, I have noticed over the last couple of years that the night threads stayed more to my liking, while the day threads changed away from what I was familiar with. You get called names by some guy who has been on LGF for "over six months" and doesn't remember seeing me there in "all that time" a couple of times, and, well, you realize that times have changed.

i miss the chat...Were you ever in there?

291 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:32:26am

re: #283 theheat

I suppose I do live in a large market. I know ads are broadcast by demographics. Maybe these have been on for awhile, and I only noticed the gayorbitz for the first time. I tend to be oblivious sometimes.

It isn't the two men walking on a beach I found odd, actually. Two guys, two gals - it's what gays are by definition. That in itself wasn't the odd part. It's that ads have become so honed, and web sites so targeted, that is necessitated a separate travel site. A few years ago, who'da thunk it? And then I had to wonder, why is it different to travel if you're gay? If I booked a hotel on gayorbitz.com as a heterosexual female, how would my experience be different from regular orbitz.com? Do I need to prove I'm gay to use their service? Weird.

Makes you wonder.

Maybe there are hotels/tourist areas that are more friendly towards gays than straights. Or, maybe it's just niche marketing.

292 TheMatrix31  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:32:39am

re: #289 MandyManners

Why was 6 scared of 7?

Because 7 8 9.

Hahahaha.

Damn, I really don't wanna flip a coin.

293 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:33:27am

re: #284 3 wood

Good morning.

Mixed market yesterday and today looks to be more of the same.

The upshot of the credit card legislation is that credit will get more expensive for everyone, especially the "good" customers who will have their rates and fees raised to subsidize the "bad" customers.

Of course, the paradox of unintended consequences will be that the "good" customers will shift to using cash, debit cards, and checks and the "bad" customers will be left with few to subsidize their slow-pay/no-pay ways.

But this is the Marxist dream, punish success and drag everyone down to the same level of misery.

Spot on.

294 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:33:56am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

TOBY!

STANLEY!

295 Bloodnok  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:34:18am

Good morning all. Looks like I missed a fun thread late last night. Dammit!

296 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:34:44am

re: #288 theheat

Makes you wonder what the criteria is to book a gay cruise. Is there a written test or ? It's not like you designate your sexual persuasion on your driver's license, like your donor status, or if you need corrective lenses.

/And if they find out you're straight on a gay cruise, do they throw you off the end of the ship into open water?

I wonder what goes on during a gay cruise.

297 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:35:32am

re: #292 TheMatrix31

Hahahaha.

Damn, I really don't wanna flip a coin.

What is A or B?

298 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:36:02am

re: #295 Bloodnok

Good morning all. Looks like I missed a fun thread late last night. Dammit!

It seems to be continuing. I can smell the urine from here.

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:36:03am

re: #296 MandyManners

I wonder what goes on during a gay cruise.

People eat too much, get sick, argue, and buy cheap stuff at ports of call.

300 DistantThunder  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:36:17am

A is better than B - better aroma.

301 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:37:36am

re: #296 MandyManners

I will sneak onto one, and study the women. I'll report back later.

302 TheMatrix31  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:40:01am

re: #297 MandyManners

What is A or B?

They're both choices of what I should do given a certain "dilemma" I'm facing at the moment :)

303 DistantThunder  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:42:22am

This is an awesome interview with a Chrysler car dealer whose been in the business since the 1960's. This is who should be running the industry because he understands the needs of the customer.

Greta interviews car dealer

FITZGERALD: Oh, yes. When I opened my Chrysler store in the '60s and the '70s, 23 percent all of the cars recommended in "Consumer Reports" were Chrysler models -- 23 percent. Forty-three percent of the cars were GM models. Those two guys had two thirds of the recommended models in "Consumer Reports." You know what they've got today? Chrysler has 6 percent. GM has 8 percent.


FITZGERALD: The imports have 75 percent.

VAN SUSTEREN: Why? What happened?

FITZGERALD: Well, what has happened is that these brilliant managers out of the Wharton School and other places have figured out that they know more about the business than anybody else, and so they keep taking money out of the product and selling it with smoke and mirrors. And that might work with soap or canned goods, but it doesn't work with automobiles.

VAN SUSTEREN: So if you can always sell them on steep discount, who's taking the hit, Chrysler or you?

FITZGERALD: I'll take the hit. Once Chrysler's in bankruptcy, everybody gets hurt but them. They stop hurting, they hurt everybody else. That's how that works.

304 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:42:51am

re: #280 MandyManners

What kind of job is State doing there?

Not sure. I've met a couple of people who exist somewhere in the DoS side of things, but I don't know if what they do is a main thrust of State's presence, or a small facet. My only point is that we don't expect State to go around clearing bad areas, and you really have to be ready to do that at a moment's notice, almost no matter what else you do.

When we give shoes to kids, we don't do it in shirtsleeves.

305 DistantThunder  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:44:44am

re: #303 DistantThunder

FITZGERALD: Well, it's a combination of things. It's mostly management at Chrysler and GM. It's poor. Ford -- look at Ford. Ford is not letting any of their dealers go. They're keeping all of them. They're not trying to get rid of any. Their stock is going up. They're out getting money from the stock market, from the private sector, because everybody knows that when Chrysler and GM are gone -- and they're going to go with the stupidity that they're going through -- whacking off the dealers? Does anybody ever do that?

And don't tell me about Starbucks. Starbucks gave up -- you know, they reduced their overhead by closing up their locations. We are no overhead to GM or Chrysler. They make a profit on us if we never sell a car. They make a profit if we never sell a car just on the fees we have to pay them.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have a message for the current CEOs of GM and Chrysler?

FITZGERALD: Do I have a message?

(LAUGHTER)

VAN SUSTEREN: Yes. Do you -- would you like to tell them something?

FITZGERALD: Oh, I could tell them a lot. I got a whole stack of things I could tell them.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do you want to tell them?

FITZGERALD: I think you're very misguided. I'd help you if I could, but you don't listen to me. So I guess I can't help you. But your big problem is you can't count. We have 13,000 dealers and you want to knock off 3,600 of those. That means there'll be more import locations than domestic locations. Now, you know, with two out of three cars on the road is a domestic car, and you're not reaching out to those people? If you're going to rise again, there's only one way. You have to get some of those 150 million people driving your products to drive new ones. I don't think you're going to be very successful with Honda and Toyota customers, so you need to take care of that 150 million.

You need to give them more service, not less. You need to give them more attention, not less. You need to forget all about your corporate ads with your image and all that foolishness and reach out to those customers and say, Look, we've had a rough patch, but we're here for you. We're going to look out for you. We're going to do everything we can to make your experience with the car you have good, and we got great stuff coming.

306 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:45:56am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

People eat too much, get sick, argue, and buy cheap stuff at ports of call.

Do these shoes go with this bullwhip?

307 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:48:12am

The Kid picked up a dozen Krispy Kremes at the grocery store yesterday and I'm glad I let him. I've just polished off three. So much for my calorie-reduction plan for this morning! (I gained about five pounds over the winter but, I've taken off one since last week after I cut out milk for dinner, a 1/2 pound of roasted peanuts a day and a double-scoop of rocky road every other day.)

308 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:49:25am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

/Less self-conscious about PDA, and they probably still wear horribly embarrassing and tasteless swimwear at the pool, just like the straights.

309 Mithrax  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:51:19am

re: #307 MandyManners

The Kid picked up a dozen Krispy Kremes at the grocery store yesterday and I'm glad I let him. I've just polished off three. So much for my calorie-reduction plan for this morning! (I gained about five pounds over the winter but, I've taken off one since last week after I cut out milk for dinner, a 1/2 pound of roasted peanuts a day and a double-scoop of rocky road every other day.)

Oooh. Rocky Road.

I know what I'm picking up today! nom nom nom!

310 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:51:34am

re: #306 haakondahl

More like, your shoes are designer knock-offs in the first place.

Oh yeah, they can tell, from, like, 100 paces. They're vicious that way.

/couldn't resist the stereotype

311 TheMatrix31  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:51:48am

Good night!

I'll let you guys know (since it's SUCH a burning topic!) whether I chose A or B tomorrow ;)

312 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:52:57am

On my agenda today is checking off the 389 links* I sent from my regular e-addy to my alternate e-addy. Once I'm positive I have all, I'll come back and delete them from this account's My Favorites.


*About FCBBHO/WAB/ACORN/Ayers/Dohrn/Wright/et cet./et al..

Then, I'm gonna' go through My Favorites and do the same with all my links about Islam. Then, I'll start a massive deletion of the stuff I have left. Once I'm down to about 1,000 links, I'll alphabetize in various folders and then send the FCBBHO and Islam links back here.

313 jacksontn  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:53:05am

re: #307 MandyManners

The Kid picked up a dozen Krispy Kremes at the grocery store yesterday and I'm glad I let him. I've just polished off three. So much for my calorie-reduction plan for this morning! (I gained about five pounds over the winter but, I've taken off one since last week after I cut out milk for dinner, a 1/2 pound of roasted peanuts a day and a double-scoop of rocky road every other day.)

Good Morning Lizards ...

The best diet motivator for people not married ... is the I May Need to Take My Clothes Off In Front Of Somene For the First Time ... always worked for me ... LOL ... it is so much harder to lose weight as we age ...

314 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:53:38am

re: #312 MandyManners

are these internet explorer links you are sending?

315 Bloodnok  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:54:28am

re: #307 MandyManners

The Kid picked up a dozen Krispy Kremes at the grocery store yesterday and I'm glad I let him. I've just polished off three. So much for my calorie-reduction plan for this morning! (I gained about five pounds over the winter but, I've taken off one since last week after I cut out milk for dinner, a 1/2 pound of roasted peanuts a day and a double-scoop of rocky road every other day.)

I've never had a Krispy Kreme. They're difficult to find up north. I'd like to try one some time. But alas, I'm on a major fitness kick. Fruit and Veggie juice diet. Lost 12 pounds in April.

In fact, it's time for breakfast for me. Carrot/beet/celery juice. Yum! BBL.

316 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:54:38am

In the "actions speak louder than words" Dept:

Anyone upset with Killgore day before yesterday for his choice of words re: his neighbor and her lawn (which he mowed for her because she couldn't), needs to see these:

re: #19 Killgore Trout

re: #29 Killgore Trout

317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:55:42am

re: #308 theheat

But it's not like a Folsom Street Fair. But, I could see a bunch of gay folks wanting to cruise with other gay folks. If I got on a cruise ship and everyone was gay, I don't know if I'd feel any different than a gay person getting on a cruise ship with a bunch of breeders.

318 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:56:29am

re: #313 jacksontn

Good Morning Lizards ...

The best diet motivator for people not married ... is the I May Need to Take My Clothes Off In Front Of Somene For the First Time ... always worked for me ... LOL ... it is so much harder to lose weight as we age ...

I'm not doing it for anyone but me. I'm getting back into my 4P's 'cause I cannot replace many of them in a 6P.

319 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:56:40am

re: #314 rightside

are these internet explorer links you are sending?

Nope. AOL.

320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:56:59am

re: #316 reine.de.tout

KT is a grand Lizard in my estimation. I do not have to agree with him all of the time to admire him.

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:57:29am

re: #318 MandyManners

rawr.

322 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:57:40am

re: #315 Bloodnok

I've never had a Krispy Kreme. They're difficult to find up north. I'd like to try one some time. But alas, I'm on a major fitness kick. Fruit and Veggie juice diet. Lost 12 pounds in April.

In fact, it's time for breakfast for me. Carrot/beet/celery juice. Yum! BBL.

If I wanted to go bat-shit crazy about this, I'd eat a lot of celery and lettuce. I love the stuff.

323 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:58:12am

re: #312 MandyManners

On my agenda today is checking off the 389 links* I sent from my regular e-addy to my alternate e-addy. Once I'm positive I have all, I'll come back and delete them from this account's My Favorites.


*About FCBBHO/WAB/ACORN/Ayers/Dohrn/Wright/et cet./et al..

Then, I'm gonna' go through My Favorites and do the same with all my links about Islam. Then, I'll start a massive deletion of the stuff I have left. Once I'm down to about 1,000 links, I'll alphabetize in various folders and then send the FCBBHO and Islam links back here.

Sounds like you need a blog.

It also sounds like you're about to get some help in transferring your data...

324 JacksonTn  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:58:37am

re: #318 MandyManners

I'm not doing it for anyone but me. I'm getting back into my 4P's 'cause I cannot replace many of them in a 6P.

MM ... yes, don't buy new clothes ... I never do that ... if you do you never go back ... if I take bread and most carbos out of my diet it comes off easier ...

325 herbieham  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:58:56am

OK, Im from Aussie, and before Obama sends America down the toilet, I've always had a dream of riding a pushbike from West coast to east coast -because I actually admire you guys (having served with a few of you)
is it doable?
recommended routes -top half, across the middle -or bottom half?
Would you yanks recommend it -and where should I avoid going?
Morning to you, goodnight from us!

326 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:00:16am

re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just a thought, maybe there are fewer screaming kids on the gay cruises.

I'm sold. Book me now...

327 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:00:45am

Maybe I should cut out the whipping cream or half-and-half from my coffee.

Nah. That'd be nuts.

328 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:01:46am

re: #327 MandyManners

Did you ever watch the first Matrix movie?

329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:01:47am

re: #325 herbieham

Don't ride through Detroit or East St. Louis...

330 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:02:29am
"But somehow all that jive didn’t faze me at all. I was so happy to have some place to blow my horn."

Just like LGF. Fights break out periodically, but it is a great place to blow your horn.

Good Morning Lizards!

Anyone got coffee?

331 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:03:05am

re: #323 haakondahl

Sounds like you need a blog.

It also sounds like you're about to get some help in transferring your data...

I do have a blog but, it's inactive for now. What's taken me so long in figuring out how to pare down my 2,500 links is that I JUST found out that I can send my links to my alternate screen name but right-clicking on the link and sending it thataway. Before Monday, I thought I had to open the link, C-P the URL into an e-mail and then send. That took a long time and I just gave up.

332 SixDegrees  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:03:38am

re: #305 DistantThunder

FITZGERALD: Well, it's a combination of things. It's mostly management at Chrysler and GM. It's poor. Ford -- look at Ford. Ford is not letting any of their dealers go. They're keeping all of them. They're not trying to get rid of any. Their stock is going up. They're out getting money from the stock market, from the private sector, because everybody knows that when Chrysler and GM are gone -- and they're going to go with the stupidity that they're going through -- whacking off the dealers? Does anybody ever do that?

And don't tell me about Starbucks. Starbucks gave up -- you know, they reduced their overhead by closing up their locations. We are no overhead to GM or Chrysler. They make a profit on us if we never sell a car. They make a profit if we never sell a car just on the fees we have to pay them.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have a message for the current CEOs of GM and Chrysler?

FITZGERALD: Do I have a message?

(LAUGHTER)

VAN SUSTEREN: Yes. Do you -- would you like to tell them something?

FITZGERALD: Oh, I could tell them a lot. I got a whole stack of things I could tell them.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do you want to tell them?

FITZGERALD: I think you're very misguided. I'd help you if I could, but you don't listen to me. So I guess I can't help you. But your big problem is you can't count. We have 13,000 dealers and you want to knock off 3,600 of those. That means there'll be more import locations than domestic locations. Now, you know, with two out of three cars on the road is a domestic car, and you're not reaching out to those people? If you're going to rise again, there's only one way. You have to get some of those 150 million people driving your products to drive new ones. I don't think you're going to be very successful with Honda and Toyota customers, so you need to take care of that 150 million.

You need to give them more service, not less. You need to give them more attention, not less. You need to forget all about your corporate ads with your image and all that foolishness and reach out to those customers and say, Look, we've had a rough patch, but we're here for you. We're going to look out for you. We're going to do everything we can to make your experience with the car you have good, and we got great stuff coming.

I agree with an awful lot of what's said here; GM and Chrysler's management is pathetically bad. But I will add one thing: I bought a new car about a year and a half ago, and there were three dealerships selling that car within a ten-mile radius of my house. There were another two within five miles of my office. All owned by different people. All competing with one another. Like so many other franchise operations, the market is so far beyond oversaturation it's ridiculous. There simply isn't enough business around here to keep all of those dealerships afloat.

Some have managed to resolve this problem on their own, by pooling resources and buying out the underdogs. Mergers are also a possibility. The problem is that most of the dealerships, thanks to the overabundance of them, are unprofitable (even prior to the current financial downturn) and will only return their owners a break-even deal, at best.

The parent companies are certainly pathologically mismanaged. But there really are too damn many dealers out there, at least in this area.

333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:04:02am

re: #322 MandyManners

If I wanted to go bat-shit crazy about this, I'd eat a lot of celery and lettuce. I love the stuff.

Ugh. I can eat salad, but I don't love it.

Okay guys, to the gym!

334 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:04:27am

re: #268 MandyManners

I'm I the only one who thinks that the hotels.com commercial is icky? One guy is being carried by two others down a hall. The next bit shows a man in a bubble-filled bath with two guys blowing into straws at his feet while the first guy leans back very relaxed.

That's what's going on in that commercial?

I thought they were drinking his bathwater through the straws! I absolutely refused to pause the DVR and double-check. I figured it was just another disgusting modern marketing hook ("Did you see that commercial where...?") and by now standards have sunk so low that I wasn't surprised by such a repugnant notion.

Although, now that you describe it, what's really going on doesn't sound that much better than what I THOUGHT was going on.

335 Mithrax  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:04:32am

re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ugh. I can eat salad, but I don't love it.

Okay guys, to the gym!

All of us?

A;right, but I gotta find my spandex first!

336 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:04:53am

"I went to a fight at an arena, and a hockey game broke out"

"I went to a fight at LGF, and an evolution thread broke out"

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:05:09am

re: #335 Mithrax

Here. You can wear one of my speedos.

338 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:05:27am

re: #324 JacksonTn

MM ... yes, don't buy new clothes ... I never do that ... if you do you never go back ... if I take bread and most carbos out of my diet it comes off easier ...

I don't normally eat a lot of bread so I get my carbs elsewhere. I have to be careful about eliminating them in case I take away too many. I reckon I could read up about it but, I don't want to treat this as some kind of project. It's just losing four more pounds.

339 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:06:13am

Anyone looking to get fit, Mrs Prefect and I just bought a Wii and the Wii Fit thing. So far I would recommend it highly. It makes working out fun.

340 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:06:45am

re: #326 theheat

Just a thought, maybe there are fewer screaming kids on the gay cruises.

I'm sold. Book me now...

Yeah, but you just get to trade kids screaming in the daylight for adults screaming in the dark.

341 Mithrax  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:06:47am

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here. You can wear one of my speedos.

Alright Alright, if I have to!

342 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:07:04am

re: #325 herbieham

OK, Im from Aussie, and before Obama sends America down the toilet, I've always had a dream of riding a pushbike from West coast to east coast -because I actually admire you guys (having served with a few of you)
is it doable?
recommended routes -top half, across the middle -or bottom half?
Would you yanks recommend it -and where should I avoid going?
Morning to you, goodnight from us!

Now, that's a delightful problem! You might do better staying out of the South during the summer due to the humidity, and out of the North during the winter due to the snow.

343 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:07:31am

re: #328 rightside

Did you ever watch the first Matrix movie?

I've seen it but, it was just too strange to follow.

344 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:08:24am

re: #340 haakondahl

Yeah, but you just get to trade kids screaming in the daylight for adults screaming in the dark.

Ugh. I wish I could unread that. Or at least get the visual image out of my head. Who has the brain bleach?

345 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:08:54am

re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ugh. I can eat salad, but I don't love it.

Okay guys, to the gym!

That's what's always made it easy to lose weight. I eat a lot of rabbit food regularly, so wanting to cut a few pounds just means I get more of that crunchy goodness.

346 JacksonTn  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:09:02am

A good morning song for waking up ... nothings gonna change my world ...

Across the Universe ... Beatles ...

347 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:09:11am

re: #316 reine.de.tout

In the "actions speak louder than words" Dept:

Anyone upset with Killgore day before yesterday for his choice of words re: his neighbor and her lawn (which he mowed for her because she couldn't), needs to see these:

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Morning all. KT's kindness reminded me of a story I'd read many years ago. A VA hospital was located near a farm, and the recovering vet's would wander into the farmer's field to snag some fresh tomato's. One day, they sadly noticed the farmer sinking a few fence poles at the edge of the tomato field. The frowns turned to smiles when they saw a salt shaker placed atop each pole with a note simply saying "enjoy".

348 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:09:29am

re: #334 Pawn of the Oppressor

That's what's going on in that commercial?

I thought they were drinking his bathwater through the straws! I absolutely refused to pause the DVR and double-check. I figured it was just another disgusting modern marketing hook ("Did you see that commercial where...?") and by now standards have sunk so low that I wasn't surprised by such a repugnant notion.

Although, now that you describe it, what's really going on doesn't sound that much better than what I THOUGHT was going on.

Homoerotocism.

349 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:10:04am

re: #336 rightside

"I went to a fight at an arena, and a hockey game broke out"

"I went to a fight at LGF, and an evolution thread broke out"

That's actually pretty good: If Charles put up a threat called Fight Club, what topics do you think would carry it past the 1,000 comment mark? I know what 2,000 would be.

350 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:11:33am

re: #349 haakondahl

evolution, abortion, anti-vaxers, just to name a few.

351 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:11:34am

Good Morning Lizards! It's glorious in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.

Wow, I reviewed last night's thread, the thread before the overnight and there was a lot going on there. I was part of it, but as it goes lately, I couldn't stay long.

Does it seem that since the Great Uniter was elected, the country is more divided than ever?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

352 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:12:30am

re: #344 Ford_Prefect

Ugh. I wish I could unread that. Or at least get the visual image out of my head. Who has the brain bleach?

Here.

353 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:13:32am

re: #352 MandyManners

Ahh, the future ex Mrs. rightside.

God Bless you for that link.

354 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:13:35am

re: #352 MandyManners

Here.

Cha-Ching!

Thank you! That works much better than the brain bleach!

355 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:13:56am

re: #325 herbieham

OK, Im from Aussie, and before Obama sends America down the toilet, I've always had a dream of riding a pushbike from West coast to east coast -because I actually admire you guys (having served with a few of you)
is it doable?
recommended routes -top half, across the middle -or bottom half?
Would you yanks recommend it -and where should I avoid going?
Morning to you, goodnight from us!

I had to look up what a "pushbike" was. It looks like a regular pedal-powered bicycle, right? There are lots of people who have biked across the country so I imagine there's some good information out there.

I'm not sure what would be the best way for you to cross the big, empty middle of the country. There may be a scenic route through AZ, NM, etc. but western TX is monstrous and sparse; some parts are just a smattering of farming outposts along a lonely main road through flatness. (I say "outposts" because I don't think a repair shop, a grain silo, and a dozen houses can be called a "town").

There's also the weather to think about.

Re: places to avoid, there's a thread on this right now in another forum I read and several names keep popping up:

East St. Louis
Gary, Indiana
Baltimore, MD
Washington D.C.

356 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:14:32am

re: #320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

KT is a grand Lizard in my estimation. I do not have to agree with him all of the time to admire him.

Exactly.

357 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:14:46am

re: #340 haakondahl

I don't know there'll be any more or less humping between adults on a gay cruise vs. straight. I'd venture maybe half the people go as a couple, and the rest are trolling for true romance/meaningless humping. Really, the dating scene can be pretty gross whether it's straight or gay. And there's typically something desperate and sleazy about it.

I find as I get older, my tolerance of loud and rude - by kids or adults - becomes less and less.

358 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:14:58am

re: #327 MandyManners

Maybe I should cut out the whipping cream or half-and-half from my coffee.

Nah. That'd be nuts.

We have such a thing as "Fat-Free" half-&-half in our grocery store. Do you have that by you? I've been using for awhile and don't notice any difference in taste.

359 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:16:00am

Gonna' head to the market.

360 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:17:37am

re: #342 MandyManners

Now, that's a delightful problem! You might do better staying out of the South during the summer due to the humidity, and out of the North during the winter due to the snow.

And the SouthWest during the summer. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hot.

361 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:19:49am

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speedo? What decade are you from?! It's all about the mankini these days, FBV.

/brain bleach next to the fruit cup on the buffet

362 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:20:11am

re: #359 MandyManners

Gonna' head to the market.

Don't forget to "Wee wee wee" all the way home... Not that you're a little..... oh hell, forget it. :)

363 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:24:56am

re: #361 theheat

Speedo? What decade are you from?! It's all about the mankini these days, FBV.

/brain bleach next to the fruit cup on the buffet

Oh damn. Quick, back to Mandy's link!

364 JacksonTn  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:29:16am

re: #361 theheat

Speedo? What decade are you from?! It's all about the mankini these days, FBV.

/brain bleach next to the fruit cup on the buffet

theheat ... that was gross ... he should not do that again ... do men really wear those things or are they just a joke ...

365 Mithrax  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:33:02am

re: #364 JacksonTn

theheat ... that was gross ... he should not do that again ... do men really wear those things or are they just a joke ...

Pay me enough and I would!

It's one of the joys of being dead flat broke :P

366 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:33:52am

I have to start my day.

Have a great one Lizards!

367 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:34:02am

re: #361 theheat

Speedo? What decade are you from?! It's all about the mankini these days, FBV.

/brain bleach next to the fruit cup on the buffet

You know- I really could have lived the rest of my life without seeing John Mayer like that. Oh well.

368 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:39:10am

re: #364 JacksonTn

As far as I know, Sacha Baron Cohen made that getup kind of famous in Borat. FWIW - it looked a little worse on him, as if that's even possible.

I thought Speedos were gross even when they were popular. Remember Mark Spitz? Yeah. Too icky. Or, how 'bout the updated Speedo here? Sorry fellas, as a fan of peen I ain't digging the old or the new Speedo.

There's always this, unless you think stripes are particularly unflattering.

369 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:51:30am

Morning folks! Google has that new fossil as part of its logo today....
Thought that was pretty cool.

370 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:53:18am

re: #369 srb1976

Morning. Now let's see them do something for Memorial Day.

371 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:55:14am

Got this sent to me in an email today. These are Marine bumper stickers, the bold ones are my personal favorites:

"U.S. Marines -- Travel Agents To Allah"
"Stop Global Whining"
"When In Doubt, Empty The Magazine"
"The Marine Corps -- When It Absolutely, Positively Has To Be Destroyed Overnight"
"Death Smiles At Everyone -- Marines Smile Back"
"What Do You Feel When You Kill A Terrorist? ... A Reassuring Recoil"
Marines -- Providing Enemies Of America An Opportunity To Die For their Country Since 1775"
"My Marine Can Pick Off Your Honor Student at a Klick and a Half"
"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It"
"Happiness Is A Belt-Fed Weapon"
"It's God's Job to Forgive Bin Laden -- It's Our Job To Arrange the meeting"
"Artillery Brings Dignity To What Would Otherwise Be Just A Brawl"
"One Shot, Twelve Kills -- Marine artillery"
"Do draft dodgers Have Reunions? If So, What Do They Talk About?"
"My kid fought in Iraq so yours can party in college"
"Travel To Exotic Places, Meet New People, Then Kill Them"
"Machine Gunners -- Accuracy By Volume"
"A Dead Enemy Is A Peaceful Enemy -- Blessed Be The Peacemakers"
"Guns Don't Kill People -- I Kill People"
"If You Can Read, Thank A Teacher. If You Can Read It In English, Thank A Marine"
"Except For Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism, WAR has Never Solved Anything"

372 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:56:00am

re: #367 Sharmuta

Coincidentally, I could live the rest of my life without hearing him. The O-face he makes while warbling and pretending to do supernatural things on the guitar (that aren't) make me throw up in my mouth. A lot. For his overwrought, pathetic, collaboration on Crossroads with Clapton, alone, he should be dragged behind a team of wild horses. And Clapton better cut out the aluminum pans from his cookware, because I can't understand what else would account for the lapse in judgment, to perform such an iconic song with any artist as musically flaccid as Mayer.

373 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:57:05am

re: #370 rightside

Morning. Now let's see them do something for Memorial Day.

I'm hopeful, but not holding my breath.....blue is not a good color for me
/

374 rain of lead  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:58:19am

re: #364 JacksonTn

Hey JT!
sunshine!
I could get used to this.

375 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:59:15am
376 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:00:03am

re: #371 Ford_Prefect

Got this sent to me in an email today. These are Marine bumper stickers, the bold ones are my personal favorites:

""If You Can Read, Thank A Teacher. If You Can Read It In English, Thank A Marine"

One of my all time favorites....the one I saw said "thank a soldier" but both are lovely sentiments

377 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:00:08am

re: #375 taxfreekiller

NY City too

378 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:00:29am

re: #367 Sharmuta

Oops. Here's the link of Mayer shitting all over the memory of Robert Johnson, and the very spirit of the song itself.

Clapton should have stayed in bed that day.

379 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:01:17am

re: #370 rightside

Morning. Now let's see them do something for Memorial Day.

I can't think of a more poetic justification for Memorial Day than the fact that Google, the internet's memory, has already forgotten.

380 ConservatismNow!  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:01:46am

re: #371 Ford_Prefect

"Machine Gunners -- Accuracy By Volume"

I like that one.

381 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:03:05am

Good morning y'all - from a coolish (52 degrees going up to 74 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! Hope you are all doing well today!
I can't stay for more than a couple of minutes as we have appoitnments with our oncologist and must be leaving in about 10 minutes but I did want to say "hi" to y'all!

382 ConservatismNow!  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:03:40am

re: #381 realwest

Oncologist? Good or bad appointments?

383 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:03:51am

re: #371 Ford_Prefect

Fire control technician motto: "In God we trust, all others we track."

384 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:05:13am

re: #381 realwest

Morning Real. It was great to see you over at Afrocity's site the other day.

385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:05:43am

re: #346 JacksonTn

Love that song. Ever heard the Rufus Wainwright version?

RUFUS!

386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:06:47am

re: #381 realwest

Hey! My mother's cancer is back. She's gonna kick it's ass again!

You'd think it would have learned last time. It left her limping and bloody.

387 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:07:45am

re: #383 rightside

Fire control technician motto: "In God we trust, all others we track."

My dad has a jacket from one of his old units (Electronic Security) that says "In god we trust, all others we monitor"

388 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:07:50am
389 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:08:03am

re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good luck to her, and keep up the positive attitude.

390 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:09:22am

re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow, best of luck to her, and what an amazing attitude!

391 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:10:43am

re: #388 momcat

Did I see a couple days ago that it was your wedding anniversary? If so, congrats late and I hope you had a great day....(really hope I'm thinking of the right person)

392 theheat  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:12:49am

re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wish her and RW the very best. One of my close relatives is losing his fight right now. It's a shitty gd disease. I don't know anyone it hasn't touched in some way.

393 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:13:35am

BTW - I was late to the Mike Steele thread (two threads back, but I posted this there at #629 and want to repeat it):
"I'm kind of astounded that so many LGFer's are ready to write an obituary for the GOP. I really am. Goodness, you'd almost not believe that the GOP, with McCain as it's Standard Bearer and the MSM in Obamas back pockets, didn't get 58 Million some odd votes last November and win 22 Sates.
For that matter, when Goldwater was beaten soundly by LBJ in 1964, I don't recall so much talk about how Republicans "had to come up with new ideas" Just HAD to. I remember Jimmy Carter getting trounced by Ronald Reagan. I mean TROUNCED (iirc, Carter won all of four states). And funny enough, I don't remember folks writing or preparing to write the obiturary for the Democratic Party back then. Indeed, I don't remember anyone saying "The Democrats have to come up with new Ideas". Which is actually a good thing, I suppose, because older that I am, and relatively short term memory problems that I do have, I don't remember the Democratic Party changing it's primary "ideas" since LBJ: More money for those on Welfare, more and better housing for poor people, Medicaid (passed while LBJ was POTUS) helped to provide free health care on an income/means basis - albeit set by the States, basically just throw money at whatever problems society faced (other people's money of course) and feel good about yourself. And as hard as I've tried, I can't think of one GOOD idea that's come out of the Democratic Party in a loooong time.
Yes, President Bush took us away from "fiscal responsibilty, but frankly Ronald Reagan spent a LOT more money (only on weapons and weapons systems and our Military in general) to help bring down the Soviet Empire and really helped kick off the love affair ALL politicians now seem to have to spend more money than we make.
Last week Moody's said the projected Deficit under our current One Party System of Government is apt to lead to a downgrade of U.S. Treasury Bonds to double A from Triple A and other folks are talking about making the Euro or the Yuan the base currency for international trade - hell President Obama's budget PROJECTS OVER ONE TRILLION, EIGHT HUNDRED BILLON dollars in deficit spending.
I think Republicans - with their belief in individual rights and responsibilities will ultimately win out. Especially when the Bush Tax Cuts lapse, when employers are no longer able to deduct cost of employee health care from their income taxes, when the social burdens (which can't be offset by cuts in defense spending alone) result in folks who make $80,000 or so a year having to pay more and more taxes.
Historically - except in time of Declared War - Americans have almost always voted with their pocketbooks and as unemployment and underemployment continue to rise, and indeed government income tax revenues fall below those already projected, I think most of the voters Obama picked up in States that used to be Republican, will change. And change dramatically.
As for Congress, while I foolishy threw out my Rasmussen Daily Polls of likey voters, the last measure Rasmussen took showed "generic" Repubicans beating "generic" Democrats for Congressional seats for the first time in probably a decade or more.
This doesn't mean the GOP shouldn't reiterate it's core values over and over again, nor not come up with new ways to teach people that there is no such thing as a free lunch, but I think the prouncements of the death of the Republican Party are way premature, to say the least."
To which I'd simply add that those core values are:individual rights AND responsibilities, fiscal restraint, smaller government, sovereignity of our borders and defense of our Nation and all of its people, equal rights for all and keeping government out of our homes and bedrooms absent criminal acts of violence or child molestation and a public educational system that teaches facts and science, not opinions and religion.

394 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:13:35am
395 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:14:38am

And with that, I'm afraid I have to leave! Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:16:14am

re: #395 realwest

Take Luck!

I always liked the tongue in cheek...

"If I don't see you again, so what!"
397 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:16:22am

re: #384 Ford_Prefect

Morning Real. It was great to see you over at Afrocity's site the other day.

Where's she been lately?

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:17:35am

re: #397 Ward Cleaver

She set up her own site, and people were getting mean to her over here. Shame too. I like her, but I don't go to other sites.

399 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:17:39am

re: #378 theheat

Oops. Here's the link of Mayer shitting all over the memory of Robert Johnson, and the very spirit of the song itself.

Clapton should have stayed in bed that day.

I used to think that Mayer would become a great blues musician, but now he's become just another pretty boy singer. Gah!

400 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:18:17am

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She set up her own site, and people were getting mean to her over here. Shame too. I like her, but I don't go to other sites.

That sucks. Shame on those that treated her badly.

401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:18:21am

re: #399 Ward Cleaver

He's a helluva musician. But, he really likes money.

402 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:19:39am

re: #393 realwest

I wish I had more than one upding to give for that. i am tired of hearing all of this doom and gloom from Republicans. Just get back to the basics and get the message out there. Obama is showing the country what is wrong with the way Democrats want to do things and I believe that voters will get the message.

403 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:21:08am

re: #397 Ward Cleaver

Where's she been lately?

She has her own blog page. Autographed Letter Signed. She is really a very good writer.

404 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:23:51am

Just tuning in so I am not sure if someone posted this: Advocates of Gun Rights Are Poised for a Victory

405 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:24:23am

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She set up her own site, and people were getting mean to her over here. Shame too. I like her, but I don't go to other sites.

Check out her site FBV. It is very interesting. She obviously writes about things that are important to her and she does so very eloquently. It is also nice to see differing opinions from a variety of political spectrums expressed. Don't get me wrong, I love LGF, but most of the posters here are from basically one side of the issue.

406 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:26:37am

re: #405 Ford_Prefect

Check out her site FBV. It is very interesting. She obviously writes about things that are important to her and she does so very eloquently. It is also nice to see differing opinions from a variety of political spectrums expressed. Don't get me wrong, I love LGF, but most of the posters here are from basically one side of the issue.

There is the right side, the wrong side, and my side?

407 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:27:04am

re: #372 theheat

I've never heard John Mayer, and I rarely listen to Clapton. I gave away my Clapton Crossroads box set years ago.

I have nothing against Clapton. He's a great guitarist, and decent singer. But I would rather hear the original versions of the blues songs he covers.

408 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:27:39am

re: #406 Nevergiveup

Present.

409 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:28:50am

re: #408 rightside

Present.

Oooh. I like presents!

410 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:30:15am

Mmmm. fresh coffee. My coffee maker is slow, but days like this it's worth the wait

411 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:30:34am

re: #409 MandyManners

Oooh. I like presents!

Prescience is nice, too.

412 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:34:53am

re: #410 srb1976

Mmmm. fresh coffee. My coffee maker is slow, but days like this it's worth the wait

I got my new Gevalia coffeemaker yesterday. That coffee is so damn good. Let's see how long it takes for me to "opt out" of their expensive coffee club.

413 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:35:07am

re: #411 Ford_Prefect

Prescience is nice, too.

Will it make my butt look big?

414 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:35:18am

Speaking of presents, my better half is about to hit his annual presents jackpot, (birthday, father's day, and wedding anniversary all in less than 3 weeks) and I have no idea what to get him for father's day.....

I can't wait til the kids are old enough to pickout their own gifts for him....

415 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:35:56am

re: #404 Creeping Eruption

Just tuning in so I am not sure if someone posted this: Advocates of Gun Rights Are Poised for a Victory

We in Texas are hopefully going to get a new law allowing concealed carry on college campuses. It's passed the Senate, and now needs to pass the House.

416 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:36:59am

re: #412 Alouette

I got my new Gevalia coffeemaker yesterday. That coffee is so damn good. Let's see how long it takes for me to "opt out" of their expensive coffee club.

I love the little thermal carafe they sent me.....no more burnt coffee, stays hot about 2-3 hours

417 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:37:04am

re: #413 MandyManners

Will it make my butt look big?

Turn around and I'll let ya know?

418 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:37:45am

re: #404 Creeping Eruption

Thanks for that. I will give him credit for signing that into law. As a concealed weapons carrier, I applaud the ability to be able to do so. Now if they'd only extend that to military bases.

419 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:38:07am

re: #417 Nevergiveup

Better duck..

420 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:38:19am

Mornin' folks!

421 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:38:52am

In case you were intersted in more info on the house that the Bushes bought, here in Dallas:

Brochure Offers Rare Glimpse Inside Bush Home

George and Laura Bush’s home at 10141 Daria Place may have never been officially listed for sale on the North Dallas real estate market, but that doesn’t mean its rooms never graced the pages of a sales brochure.

While most gawkers will have to settle for a view of the former president’s Preston Hollow palace from the distance of a Secret Service-guarded gate or via Google Maps, a recently discovered real estate brochure offers a rare glimpse inside the five-bedroom, six-and-a-half-bathroom ranch-style abode...

I've driven by it, and from the street it just looks like a typical '50s ranch.

422 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:39:01am

re: #414 srb1976

Speaking of presents, my better half is about to hit his annual presents jackpot, (birthday, father's day, and wedding anniversary all in less than 3 weeks) and I have no idea what to get him for father's day.....

I can't wait til the kids are old enough to pickout their own gifts for him....

I refer you back to Mandy's earlier link for ideas.

423 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:39:15am

Morning Ping!

424 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:39:48am

re: #419 rightside

Better duck..

I've been married 26 years. i am used to ducking.

425 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:40:53am
426 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:41:16am

re: #423 Ward Cleaver
Howdy! It's not Monday, yaaaay!
So, short shit has got himself a new missle. Nice. A moron with a missle.

427 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:42:01am

re: #414 srb1976

Speaking of presents, my better half is about to hit his annual presents jackpot, (birthday, father's day, and wedding anniversary all in less than 3 weeks) and I have no idea what to get him for father's day.....

I can't wait til the kids are old enough to pickout their own gifts for him....

Basil Hayden's.

428 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:42:23am

re: #426 pingjockey

Howdy! It's not Monday, yaaaay!
So, short shit has got himself a new missle. Nice. A moron with a missle.

Yeah, that talking to Iran is working out so great ain't it?

429 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:43:24am

re: #428 Nevergiveup
Neville Chamberlain comes to mind for some reason.

430 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:43:29am

So much for the "Tenth Amendment" bill here in Texas:

Technicality shoots down states' rights bill

Shot down by a Dem.

431 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:43:39am

Morning all.
Sitting here trying to get up the courage to hop in the (very chilly) pool and givie it a thorough cleaning. Maybe I'll just keep thinking about it.

432 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:45:52am
433 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:45:58am

re: #431 Lincolntf
Heh, find a kid. We have an above ground pool. Put it up Saturday. We use the irrigation to fill it and then add the chemicals and it's good to go in about a day. The irrigation water comes right out of the Wenatchee river, so a week ago it was snow! The kids were in it Sunday!

434 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:46:28am

re: #420 pingjockey

Morning ping. Hey, can't believe it ... the people here in CA are finally waking up. They killed all the measures designed to "save" the budget. Let the ax start falling. Yes ...

435 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:46:52am

re: #431 Lincolntf

Go for it ...

436 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:47:28am

re: #433 pingjockey

Heh, find a kid. We have an above ground pool. Put it up Saturday. We use the irrigation to fill it and then add the chemicals and it's good to go in about a day. The irrigation water comes right out of the Wenatchee river, so a week ago it was snow! The kids were in it Sunday!

And kids pee is kinda antiseptic anyway.

437 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:48:07am

Morning Gun Pron

[Link: airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com...]

438 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:48:47am

re: #434 turn
I saw that on the news this morning. People have had enough! The doom and gloom from Taxamento was...we're going to turn prisoners loose, shut schools, fire stations, etc...Maybe they need not to fund useless BS like otter research, pay raises for reps, etc...

439 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:49:43am

re: #435 turn

Easy for you to say.
I guess I will, but maybe I'll give it another hour two before taking the plunge.

440 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:49:44am

Good morning!

My girls and I watched the end of Finding Forrester last night for the first time in a long time. Israel Kamakawiwo'Ole singing during the closing credits sounded so sublime. I wanted to share it with you.

441 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:50:09am

re: #437 Jewels (AKA Julian)

I want one.

442 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:50:30am

So when was goddessoftheclassroom's big meltdown/flounce-off? I seem to have missed that.

443 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:50:49am

re: #438 pingjockey

I saw that on the news this morning. People have had enough! The doom and gloom from Taxamento was...we're going to turn prisoners loose, shut schools, fire stations, etc...Maybe they need not to fund useless BS like otter research, pay raises for reps, etc...

What about pay raises for otters? Hm?

444 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:50:58am

re: #442 Jimmah

So when was goddessoftheclassroom's big meltdown/flounce-off? I seem to have missed that.

Ha? What happened?

445 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:51:12am

re: #442 Jimmah

So when was goddessoftheclassroom's big meltdown/flounce-off? I seem to have missed that.

WHAT?

446 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:51:21am

re: #442 Jimmah
What? Why? That sucks.

447 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:52:18am

re: #443 MandyManners
Just give them more rocks and abalone to eat, they'll be fine!

448 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:52:52am

re: #407 Mad Al-Jaffee

I've never heard John Mayer, and I rarely listen to Clapton. I gave away my Clapton Crossroads box set years ago.

I have nothing against Clapton. He's a great guitarist, and decent singer. But I would rather hear the original versions of the blues songs he covers.

without Clapton, Keith Richards and maybe two other artists, nobody would have ever remembered Robert Johnson....they alone resurrected the Delta blues and dragged it to the mainsteam

449 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:54:15am

re: #437 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Morning Gun Pron

[Link: airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com...]

Paraphrasing the late, great Jeff Cooper... "The fastest way to piss someone off is to ask 'What's that for?' "

First thought on that is WTF, why? Second thought is, well, some people have more money and/or free time than sense. I can think of better uses for a machine shop.

Third thought is... oh hey, there's text on the page:

Will production be announced at this year's 2006 Shot Show, or will this go the way of an interesting design exercise? We'll see in a dozen days. [Answer: No. It was never seen again, and the company no longer exists. Wonder who has the prototype?]
450 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:54:19am

Well, here in CT Chris Dodd will now officially have to fight for the Democratic nomination in 2010. This will be the first time since he won office in 1981 that he will face opposition in the primaries. Hopefully whoever wins the Democratic nomination will lose in the general election, but in CT that might be too much to ask for.

For those who don't know, Dodd’s father was also a U.S. Senator. You would think that CT voters would have learned the first time. According to Wikipedia, “Thomas Joseph Dodd… was the first Senator censured by the US Senate since Joseph McCarthy in 1954, and was one of only six people censured by the Senate in the 20th century…. The censure was a condemnation and finding that he had converted campaign funds to his personal accounts and spent the money.”

Like father like son. As always in Washington, follow the money and you will find the corruption. And just like 32 years ago it leads to the Dodd household.

451 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:54:32am

re: #438 pingjockey

I saw that on the news this morning. People have had enough! The doom and gloom from Taxamento was...we're going to turn prisoners loose, shut schools, fire stations, etc...Maybe they need not to fund useless BS like otter research, pay raises for reps, etc...

f$%^ that shit, doom and gloom my arse. I bet you you could hack 1/3 of the government workforce and actually see a boost in productivity. Scare those donut eating friggin state workers off their ass and actually get them to do something productive. I'm not kidding, if you call any state office 30 min. before quitting time all you get is a busy signal, they put all calls on hold because they want to get out the door when the bell goes off.

452 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:55:50am

re: #439 Lincolntf

How cold is it there? At any rate jumping into cold water is a mental thing, just don't think about it and do it.

453 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:55:58am

C'mon, jimmah. Spill.

454 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:56:22am

bbiab

455 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:56:54am

re: #451 turn
Yep. I lived in San diego for 14 years, while I was in the Navy. Never saw so many drones in state jobs. Hell the whole gov't structure from local to Fed is filled with overpaid folks contibuting NOTHING.

456 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:56:55am

re: #448 albusteve

without Clapton, Keith Richards and maybe two other artists, nobody would have ever remembered Robert Johnson....they alone resurrected the Delta blues and dragged it to the mainsteam

They certainly helped with the blues revival in the 60s, but it's not like they discovered Johnson's 78s and put them on an lp. I think Columbia did that. I think people would have discovered Johnson's music without all of the hype and bullshit selling his soul to the devil stories. People discovered Son House, Blind Blake, Leroy Carr, Charley Patton, Memphis Minnie, etc. without any help from rock stars.

I have nothing against Clapton, I'm just not much into his music.

457 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:57:50am

re: #442 Jimmah

WTF? when was this?

458 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:58:04am

re: #452 turn

It's about 65, with a steady, cool breeze. The water temp. is about 65 as well. It is definitely all mental, but that first submersion of the "waistline area" is a doozy.

459 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 6:58:36am

re: #453 MandyManners

I found this on my fortnightly inspection of the cesspit, from 'goddessoftheclassroom':

Good morning, y’all.

Last night I asked about posting a Blogmocracy Prayer List, and those online at the time said yes.

Please let me know of any additions…we’re just getting started.

Blogmocacy Prayer List 5/15/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope...

It could be an impersonation I suppose, but somehow I doubt it. I just checked and although not banned she does not seem to have posted here for a week or so.

460 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:00:01am

re: #459 Jimmah

I found this on my fortnightly inspection of the cesspit, from 'goddessoftheclassroom':


It could be an impersonation I suppose, but somehow I doubt it. I just checked and although not banned she does not seem to have posted here for a week or so.

I don't see that as a flounce.

461 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:00:12am

re: #458 Lincolntf
My two older boys went swimming in the Entiat river Saturday. Same thing, a week ago that water was snow! Then again they are 15 and 17 so their brains aren't on completely yet!

462 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:00:30am

re: #460 MandyManners
Me neither.

463 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:00:31am

re: #458 Lincolntf

It's about 65, with a steady, cool breeze. The water temp. is about 65 as well. It is definitely all mental, but that first submersion of the "waistline area" is a doozy.

Sixty-five? Holy crap. A couple of years ago we went to a Memorial Day pool party. The only problem was, it was in the 70s and rainy. The water temperature was 73. My kids wanted to swim, so I had to go in with them. Damn, it was cold.

464 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:00:43am

re: #442 Jimmah

So when was goddessoftheclassroom's big meltdown/flounce-off? I seem to have missed that.

WTF!

465 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:01:47am

re: #459 Jimmah

I found this on my fortnightly inspection of the cesspit, from 'goddessoftheclassroom':


It could be an impersonation I suppose, but somehow I doubt it. I just checked and although not banned she does not seem to have posted here for a week or so.

I am missing something here. What does that mean?

466 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:01:48am

Has RW been in this morning?

467 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:01:59am

Morning, everyone. I have a weird computer doing something I've never seen before: it won't let me into the BIOS, but it boots up fine. Weirod.

468 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:02:12am

re: #463 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, it's amazing what a difference being in the water makes. My house is often around 65 degrees and I'm perfectly comfortable in here.

469 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:02:26am

re: #459 Jimmah

I found this on my fortnightly inspection of the cesspit, from 'goddessoftheclassroom':

It could be an impersonation I suppose, but somehow I doubt it. I just checked and although not banned she does not seem to have posted here for a week or so.

What is "blogmocracy"?

470 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:02:31am

re: #466 pingjockey

Yes, he headed to the oncologist with mom I believe.

471 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:02:39am

re: #467 vxbush
Gremlins.

472 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:02:48am

re: #460 MandyManners

I don't see that as a flounce.

I don't either, but what is a flounce anyway?

473 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:03:20am

re: #460 MandyManners

I don't see that as a flounce.

I would say simply posting on that rancid turd of a site constitutes a flounce in itself.

474 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:03:27am

re: #470 rightside
Thanks. I worry about him and his mom.

475 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:03:29am

re: #463 Ward Cleaver

I wore a sweater to work yesterday. Where is all of that global warming we're supposed to be getting? Did Obama already stop it?

476 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:03:35am

re: #465 VegasRick

I am missing something here. What does that mean?

I'm not sure which "cesspit" you are referring to, sir.

477 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:04:02am

re: #471 pingjockey

Gremlins.

Don't they freak out if they eat the wrong food?

478 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:04:28am

re: #472 Nevergiveup

I don't either, but what is a flounce anyway?

Leaving in a huff.

In times past, it was accompanied by a snap of the head that made the curls bounce, and a quick whirl of the petticoats and skirt.

479 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:04:40am

re: #476 vxbush

I'm not sure which "cesspit" you are referring to, sir.

?

480 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:04:47am

re: #476 vxbush

I'm not sure which "cesspit" you are referring to, sir.

Ah, sorry, VegasRick. I realize you didn't make the comment; I just saw it there. I'm still at a loss, as there seem to be several sites that take such a moniker.

481 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:05:15am

re: #473 Jimmah

I would say simply posting on that rancid turd of a site constitutes a flounce in itself.

From my understanding, one flounces here only as one leaves.

482 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:05:30am

re: #477 vxbush

Don't they freak out if they eat the wrong food?

After midnight?

483 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:05:48am

re: #482 midwestgak

After midnight?

Then I'm safe. I won't work on the machines after 4:00pm.

484 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:06:01am

CIA head: J'lem knows not to attack Iran

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Yeah, OK, Fine but last I checked Israeli Military Headquarters was in Tel Aviv?

485 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:06:20am

re: #477 vxbush
I don't remember! Only saw the movie once a looong time ago.
Speaking of movies Brad Pitt has a new one coming out about Jewish resistance fighters hunting Nazis.
I'm wondering how Hollyweird is gonna spin it to make the Joooos the bad guys!

486 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:06:21am

re: #456 Mad Al-Jaffee

They certainly helped with the blues revival in the 60s, but it's not like they discovered Johnson's 78s and put them on an lp. I think Columbia did that. I think people would have discovered Johnson's music without all of the hype and bullshit selling his soul to the devil stories. People discovered Son House, Blind Blake, Leroy Carr, Charley Patton, Memphis Minnie, etc. without any help from rock stars.

I have nothing against Clapton, I'm just not much into his music.

I think you position is a tad harsh...the Crossroads story is lore...it's part of the fabric of the blues, and I don't think anyone really believes it...and with the emergence of pop radio in the early sixties I question if the mainstream ever would have heard of the oldsters...when the Stones first met Muddy Waters he was painting the ceiling at Chess records for pocket change

487 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:06:34am

re: #478 MandyManners

Leaving in a huff.

In times past, it was accompanied by a snap of the head that made the curls bounce, and a quick whirl of the petticoats and skirt.

Don't get me hot so early in the morning.

488 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:06:50am

re: #482 midwestgak

After midnight?

We're gonna let it all hang out.

The original JJ Cale version is soooo much better than Clapton's cover! :)

489 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:07:01am

re: #442 Jimmah

What?

490 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:07:15am

re: #485 pingjockey

I don't remember! Only saw the movie once a looong time ago.
Speaking of movies Brad Pitt has a new one coming out about Jewish resistance fighters hunting Nazis.
I'm wondering how Hollyweird is gonna spin it to make the Joooos the bad guys!

I only saw a snippet of that, so it looked like yet another war movie but it wasn't clear what the storyline was. Egads, Hollyweird could spin it fourteen ways wrong.

491 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:07:23am

re: #481 MandyManners

From my understanding, one flounces here only as one leaves.

"I once knew a gal from ole ken-tuck"
"She couldn't cook bit she sure could..........................flounce"

492 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:08:06am

re: #485 pingjockey

I don't remember! Only saw the movie once a looong time ago.
Speaking of movies Brad Pitt has a new one coming out about Jewish resistance fighters hunting Nazis.
I'm wondering how Hollyweird is gonna spin it to make the Joooos the bad guys!

I thought that he and Jolie were pro-Israel, like her daddy.

493 Desert Dog  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:08:28am

Just a drive by post to give all of you the bad news, especially those who have already booked air and hotel for this venue: Chinese sex theme park causes controversy

Sex theme park bulldozed

too bad, it looked soooo good

494 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:08:29am

re: #474 pingjockey

No problem, shipmate.

495 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:08:36am

re: #490 vxbush
Yep. I have no trust in Hollyweird to do the right thing.

496 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:08:52am

re: #487 Nevergiveup

Don't get me hot so early in the morning.

*batting eyelashes as I slowly wave my fan under my eyes*

497 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:09:11am

re: #486 albusteve

There was a big blues/folk revival in the 60s that had nothing to do with British rock. People like Jim Kweskin, Dave Van Ronk and Spider John Koerner did a lot for American roots music.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

498 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:09:12am

re: #488 Mad Al-Jaffee

We're gonna let it all hang out.

The original JJ Cale version is soooo much better than Clapton's cover! :)

agreed...too uptempo, changed the whole thing

499 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:09:44am

re: #491 VegasRick

"I once knew a gal from ole ken-tuck"
"She couldn't cook bit she sure could..........................flounce"

Oh, my. That's funny.

500 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:09:55am

re: #492 MandyManners
I don't know. I know her dad is anti moonbat. And, I have CRS right now...Oh yeah, Jon Voight. Who is angelenas mom?

501 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:09:59am

re: #485 pingjockey

I don't remember! Only saw the movie once a looong time ago.
Speaking of movies Brad Pitt has a new one coming out about Jewish resistance fighters hunting Nazis.
I'm wondering how Hollyweird is gonna spin it to make the Joooos the bad guys!

I'm looking forward to that movie. It's Quentin Tarantino's new one.

502 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:10:43am

re: #500 pingjockey

I don't know. I know her dad is anti moonbat. And, I have CRS right now...Oh yeah, Jon Voight. Who is angelenas mom?

Some French chick?

503 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:10:45am

re: #501 Mad Al-Jaffee
It's a Tarantino flic? Hmmm.....

504 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:11:03am

Iran test-fires another missile. Someone has to stop these insane bastards.

505 Ojoe  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:11:13am
506 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:11:30am

re: #502 Nevergiveup
No frakkin idea! She must've been a knock out though!

507 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:11:32am

re: #455 pingjockey

Yep. I lived in San diego for 14 years, while I was in the Navy. Never saw so many drones in state jobs. Hell the whole gov't structure from local to Fed is filled with overpaid folks contibuting NOTHING.

Back now. You got that right. Hey, did I ever tell you my FIL was a marine and stationed in San Diego? My BIL was born on Coronado Island.

508 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:11:37am

re: #501 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm looking forward to that movie. It's Quentin Tarantino's new one.

Yes, Inglorious Basterds. Looks like a bloody escapade of a movie. I'm willing to give it a chance.

509 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:11:59am

re: #484 Nevergiveup

Perhaps the CIA head used the term J'lem as opposed to "Zionist entity." (the "I" word being anathema, and not wishing to enrage any, and one must always keep one's masters happy).

510 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:12:31am

re: #505 Ojoe
Thanks for that. I need to do a search and See if someone has a cam in the Cascades somewhere.

511 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:13:01am

re: #458 Lincolntf

It's about 65, with a steady, cool breeze. The water temp. is about 65 as well. It is definitely all mental, but that first submersion of the "waistline area" is a doozy.

Ha, things do tend to shrivel at that point.

512 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:13:02am

re: #507 turn
It is a very small world!

513 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:13:14am

re: #500 pingjockey

I don't know. I know her dad is anti moonbat. And, I have CRS right now...Oh yeah, Jon Voight. Who is angelenas mom?

Heh. I was at a comedy club once & Patton Oswald was doing a bit on how he hated the "origins" stories of the Star Wars prequels. He asked the audience "You guys like Angelina Jolie? Well, do you want to see a picture of Jon Voight's junk? That's her origin!"

514 Ojoe  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:13:20am

re: #510 pingjockey

Welcome !

BBL

515 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:13:29am

re: #508 MrSilverDragon

Yes, Inglorious Basterds. Looks like a bloody escapade of a movie. I'm willing to give it a chance.

Oh. So it might be okay, you're saying? Fine. But I never got into the whole "Kill Bill" weirdness.

516 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:13:39am

Just checked the thermometers. Air temp is 61 degrees (with a very chilly breeze) and the water temp is all the way up to 68. Tomorrow is looking better and better.

517 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:14:08am

re: #515 vxbush

That was a mad movie!

518 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:14:13am

re: #500 pingjockey

I don't know. I know her dad is anti moonbat. And, I have CRS right now...Oh yeah, Jon Voight. Who is angelenas mom?

Wiki says it's Marcia Lynne Bertrand.

519 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:14:15am

re: #516 Lincolntf

Just checked the thermometers. Air temp is 61 degrees (with a very chilly breeze) and the water temp is all the way up to 68. Tomorrow is looking better and better.

Get it to 80, and I'm there. :D

520 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:14:25am

re: #513 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Heh!

521 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:14:58am

re: #516 Lincolntf

Just checked the thermometers. Air temp is 61 degrees (with a very chilly breeze) and the water temp is all the way up to 68. Tomorrow is looking better and better.

68 is f***ing cold!

522 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:15:39am

re: #518 MandyManners
Well, crap. No idea who that is.
Thanks for looking that up Mandy.

523 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:15:40am

re: #502 Nevergiveup

Some French chick?

French-Canadian.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

524 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:15:48am

Good morning lizards

525 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:16:00am

re: #504 Mr. In get Mr. Out

Iran test-fires another missile. Someone has to stop these insane bastards.

They might only be SAYING they fired a missile. Where's the proof?

I don't doubt it because I want to diminish a threat - I doubt it because it's a tin-pisspot ratfuck of a government represented by a wretched little Jew-hating shit, and they're not above BS'ing just to make the news, especially since Bibi met with Obama and they're out of the headlines.

526 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:16:22am

re: #501 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm looking forward to that movie. It's Quentin Tarantino's new one.

How many ways will the actors use "fuck"?

527 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:16:23am

re: #440 ilzito guacamolito


Hey il, I really liked that movie. Have you, well dumb question, ever seen Scent of a Woman? The two plots are exactly the same IMO.

528 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:16:40am

re: #523 MandyManners

French-Canadian.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

There is definitely a resemblence there.

529 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:16:55am

re: #524 NJDhockeyfan

Mornin'.
I wish these pols would quit comparing their spending to drunken sailors. I was one of those and we spent our own money!

530 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:17:12am

re: #526 MandyManners

How many ways will the actors use "fuck"?

How the fuck should I know?

531 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #469 Alouette

'Blogmocracy' is the laughably ugly neologism the cretins at LGF2 came up with to describe their site.

I found an earlier post - it seems it is goddessoftheclassroom.

I just didn’t feel I had that much in common with the majority of posters. I still care a great dear for them, but I wasn’t happy–I didn’t feel honest with them or myself.

Apparently she's much happier hanging out with - and praying for - eurofascist sympathisers, ethnic cleansing proponents and the most intensely stupid collection of creationists in the blogosphere. More at home posting among obsessed LGF haters than LGF itself. Lovely eh?

532 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:18:19am

Oh, man, some days hot tea just seeps into your soul and restarts your day.

533 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:18:57am

re: #532 vxbush

Oh, man, some days hot tea just seeps into your soul and restarts your day.

And some days it spills on the front of your pants.

534 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:05am

re: #526 MandyManners

How many ways will the actors use "fuck"?

69.

535 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:05am

re: #467 vxbush

Morning, everyone. I have a weird computer doing something I've never seen before: it won't let me into the BIOS, but it boots up fine. Weirod.

I think there is a word for that, symBIOSys or something. Morning Vx, hey what about that election? yes ...

536 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:08am

re: #530 Mad Al-Jaffee

How the fuck should I know?

Are you fucking kidding me?

537 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:26am

re: #528 Ford_Prefect

There is definitely a resemblence there.

She was pretty.

538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:32am

re: #536 MandyManners

Are you fucking kidding me?

Watch your fucking language!

539 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:37am

re: #531 Jimmah

'Blogmocracy' is the laughably ugly neologism the cretins at LGF2 came up with to describe their site.

I found an earlier post - it seems it is goddessoftheclassroom.

Apparently she's much happier hanging out with - and praying for - eurofascist sympathisers, ethnic cleansing proponents and the most intensely stupid collection of creationists in the blogosphere. More at home posting among obsessed LGF haters than LGF itself. Lovely eh?

I think you may be lumping a bit too much there. Yes, the site has included many characters who are disreputable, but it has become more just an Anti-LGF site. I have a great deal of respect for GoTC.

540 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:19:42am

re: #531 Jimmah

'Blogmocracy' is the laughably ugly neologism the cretins at LGF2 came up with to describe their site.

I found an earlier post - it seems it is goddessoftheclassroom.

Apparently she's much happier hanging out with - and praying for - eurofascist sympathisers, ethnic cleansing proponents and the most intensely stupid collection of creationists in the blogosphere. More at home posting among obsessed LGF haters than LGF itself. Lovely eh?

I'm curious, how do you know it was goddess? Was the comment signed that way? I'm a bit confused, isn't she still a member of LGF.

541 saberry0530  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:15am

re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Watch your fucking language!

You fucking forgot to say fucking please

542 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:15am

re: #537 MandyManners

She is fucking beautiful.

543 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:22am

re: #526 MandyManners

How many ways will the actors use "fuck"?

Not as many ways as you can.

/ducking now

544 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:27am

re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Watch your fucking language!

Fuck you.

/

545 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:53am

re: #501 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm looking forward to that movie. It's Quentin Tarantino's new one.

The trailer is awesome.

546 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:59am

re: #478 MandyManners

I didn't know that. Been here 5 min and already learned something.

547 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:20:59am

re: #535 turn

I think there is a word for that, symBIOSys or something. Morning Vx, hey what about that election? yes ...

You mean California's? What did they expect? "Yes, please. Take all our money. We don't need it." Crikey. They wasted their money trying to get stupid propositions passed instead of *thinking about cutting down the budget*.

Why governments think they never have to stop spending money like regular people or companies is beyond me.

548 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:06am

re: #530 Mad Al-Jaffee

How the fuck should I know?

It's a versatile word.


549 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:08am

re: #531 Jimmah

That's the most disappointing thing I've seen in awhile.

550 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:12am

re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Watch your fucking language!

What the fuck did he say?!

551 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:12am

re: #540 Walter L. Newton

her account has not been blocked, and her last post(s) were on Thursday, the 14th, she posted the prayer list.

552 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:25am

re: #534 VegasRick

69.

*shaking head*

553 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:27am

re: #543 Ward Cleaver

Not as many ways as you can.

/ducking now

Like Denis Leary said, "'Fuck' is like 'Aloha' - it can mean anything. It's a fuckin' great word."

554 pingjockey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:36am

Later folks! Have a fucking great mother fucking day!

555 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:39am

re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

One of the best scenes in The Wire was (I think in season 1) where Bunk and McNulty revisit a crime scene, and the only words spoken are variations of "fuck." I'd post a clip, but I can't access YouTube at work.

556 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:50am

re: #538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Watch your fucking language!

Well, I'll be fucked.

557 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:52am

re: #554 pingjockey

Fuck off.

558 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:21:59am

re: #525 Pawn of the Oppressor

That's true. I didn't look into it, but, I assume, we'll know more later.

559 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:22:19am

Fuck the fucking fuckers.

560 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:22:24am

re: #528 Ford_Prefect

There is definitely a resemblence there.

Died at age 56. Oh my.

561 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:23:14am

re: #555 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of the best scenes in The Wire was (I think in season 1) where Bunk and McNulty revisit a crime scene, and the only words spoken are variations of "fuck." I'd post a clip, but I can't access YouTube at work.

My favorite scene in Planes, Trains & Automobiles is when Steve Martin is at the rental car counter - he uses "Fuck" 17 times in about 2 minutes.

562 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:23:33am

re: #539 vxbush

I think you may be lumping a bit too much there. Yes, the site has included many characters who are disreputable, but it has become more just an Anti-LGF site..

What absolute garbage.

563 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:23:50am

Okay.... there is lots of fucking going on and goddessoftheclassroom is posting at the stalker blog.

I need a drink.

564 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:23:51am

LGF2 is known for hijacking nics from here. They've done that to Charles, Kilgore, Sharmuta, NYNana and--I think--me.

565 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:23:58am

re: #540 Walter L. Newton

It could be a prank, a "joke" done by some impersonator...

566 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #551 rightside

her account has not been blocked, and her last post(s) were on Thursday, the 14th, she posted the prayer list.

Ok, that's a start, she's not blocked here. Is she really posting something like that over there, or are we missing something here?

Just interested, because she's been around here a long time.

I'm concerned, but I'm interested in facts.

567 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:24:05am

Wa-hoo! We were part of the 19% of the California electorate who turned out to vote yesterday and man, it felt good. (Up yours, Arnie!) For once it looks like the idiots in this state have turned fiscally responsible, unless all those absentee ballots make a difference. Somehow I think not -- even my mother and aunt, liberals both, voted down all of the propositions save the last one -- no raises for the legislature when there's a deficit. Although it will probably backfire on us -- if it looks like there'll be a deficit, I bet the politicians will just raise taxes to cover it (for that is their M.O.).

568 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:24:10am

Okay. Gotta go deal with this misbehavin' PC. Later, folks.

569 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:24:19am

re: #527 turn

Hey il, I really liked that movie. Have you, well dumb question, ever seen Scent of a Woman? The two plots are exactly the same IMO.

You are right. They are quite similar.

570 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:24:44am

re: #547 vxbush

Seriously. It isn't sustainable.

571 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:25:01am

re: #565 J.S.

It could be a prank, a "joke" done by some impersonator...

I don't know, but that's why I asked. Jimmah, can you answer my question. Are you sure it was her? How do you know?

572 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:25:09am

re: #564 MandyManners

LGF2 is known for hijacking nics from here. They've done that to Charles, Kilgore, Sharmuta, NYNana and--I think--me.

Fuck them!

573 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:25:31am

re: #562 Jimmah

What absolute garbage.

Okay, fine, don't believe me. I'll be honest--I don't visit the other sites, because I have no interest. But I'm fairly certain that goddess is not a eurofascist and is not a sympathizer.

Okay, now i really have to go.

574 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:25:31am

re: #561 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

My favorite scene in Planes, Trains & Automobiles is when Steve Martin is at the rental car counter - he uses "Fuck" 17 times in about 2 minutes.

My favorite scene from that movie is when they're travelling on the wrong side of the highway, and the car on the other side is keeping pace with them and screaming to Martin & Candy's characters, "You're going the wrong way! You're going to kill someone!" all the while the characters are oblivious. I was in stitches.

575 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:01am

re: #566 Walter L. Newton

Me too...I hope it's not her, but let's find out the facts first. She is a teacher, and I saw a misspelling in that post...everyone makes mistakes but...

Could be a nicjack. I believe her school year is over, so she may be taking a break.

576 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:02am

Shut you're fucking face, uncle fucker!

577 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #564 MandyManners

LGF2 is known for hijacking nics from here. They've done that to Charles, Kilgore, Sharmuta, NYNana and--I think--me.

You can tell when they do that. They're not especially clever these folk. A convincing impersonation is way beyond their 'talents'. No, I've read a few of goddess's comments over there now and it's definitely her.

578 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:19am

re: #539 vxbush

I think you may be lumping a bit too much there. Yes, the site has included many characters who are disreputable, but it has become more just an Anti-LGF site. I have a great deal of respect for GoTC.

Uh- no. The stalker site isn't much more than an LGF bashing site. Sure- they put up other threads.... that get three comments. The only threads that get a lot of action are the ones ripping on LGF.

579 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:36am

re: #571 Walter L. Newton

I don't know, but that's why I asked. Jimmah, can you answer my question. Are you sure it was her? How do you know?

Did you see my No. 564? Impersonation is SOP over there.

580 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #549 Sharmuta

That's the most disappointing thing I've seen in awhile.

I followed that upthread, I'm shocked too.

581 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:26:59am

re: #540 Walter L. Newton

There you are! We lost all power here at work yesterday and barely had time to save my work before shutting down. I just wanted to reply to you, bcz I had a feeling my post might be misinterpreted.

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

Fine, address his remark about the fossil. Scientist Rush. That's the real issue here. He's making statements he know NOTHING about, with in 24 hours of this discovery being announced to the general public.

I was merely pointing out that Rush calls himself the ‘leader of the GOP’, bcz that is what the MSM says and he’s pointing out that they all have the same talking points. The MSM has been playing the GOP against itself by asking whether Rush and Cheney are really the face they want to put on, yadda, yadda, yadda.
As for the fossil, as a listener of his program for many years, I had no doubt that he was a creationist although I do not recall him ever coming out and saying it. I certainly part company with him on that issue, as well as, many others.
I must credit him for steering me to this very blog years ago. The times I heard him reference LGF he had nothing but praise for Charles.

582 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:27:01am

Shut you'e fucking face, uncle fucker,
You're a boner biting bastard, uncle fucker

583 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:27:10am

re: #575 rightside

Me too...I hope it's not her, but let's find out the facts first. She is a teacher, and I saw a misspelling in that post...everyone makes mistakes but...

Could be a nicjack. I believe her school year is over, so she may be taking a break.

I agree. If Jimmah has some more info, I wish they would post it. Jimmah seemed so sure it was her, how does Jimmah know that?

584 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:27:18am

re: #577 Jimmah

You can tell when they do that. They're not especially clever these folk. A convincing impersonation is way beyond their 'talents'. No, I've read a few of goddess's comments over there now and it's definitely her.

I don't believe it.

585 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:27:21am

re: #574 MrSilverDragon

That was hiliarious! I loved the part where the car burned, and they were sitting on the wire mesh of the seat, and one of them said, my ass feels like a whopper! LOL

586 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:27:50am

This is a first for turn, a fuck thread. ha

587 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:28:27am

Good morning, lizards! :D

588 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:29:00am

Repost from dead thread:

The Creationists should have quit while they were ahead.

Reasonable people, including scientists, are prepared to allow for the possibility that God created the universe by causing the Big Bang or whatever else science might view as the "beginning".

Moreover, reasonable people, including scientists, are even willing to accommodate and accept that people may honestly believe, as a matter of faith, that God decreed all the laws of physics, biology, chemistry, thermodynamics, gravity, and every single other natural law in the universe.

But for some reason this is not good enough for the Creationists. They insist, in addition to the foregoing, that evolution is a bogus theory which is inconsistent with their religious belief that God also created each living species separately.

And then, to top it off, the Creationists insist on ramming their beliefs down the throats of everyone else, by hijacking school curricula and now by attempting to hijack the GOP. And of course by purging from the schools and the party anyone who dissents from their beliefs.

These idealogues may have more in common with the Taliban than with their fellow citizens. And they will eventually suffer the consequences.

589 opnion  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:29:05am

Good morning all. Man lots of F bombs being dropped on LGF today.
Sounds like Governor Blago & wife Pottymouth Patti having a conversation.
It really fucking does.

590 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:29:15am

re: #579 MandyManners

Did you see my No. 564? Impersonation is SOP over there.

I got that, but Jimmah made the comment as if Jimmah was sure it was her, and I am just curious how Jimmah knows that.

If Jimmah can't be sure of that, then we shouldn't assume that it is goddess until we have more info.

Does anyone have her email and can email her and ask?

591 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:29:17am

re: #586 turn

This is a first for turn, a fuck thread. ha

While I can be as salty as the best of them, I refuse to say fuck...
err... DAMNIT!

592 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:29:21am

Gotta go out. BBL

593 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:29:44am

re: #569 ilzito guacamolito

You are right. They are quite similar.

Well in keeping with the theme, Fuck you too!

594 bosforus  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:30:13am
595 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:30:24am

re: #590 Walter L. Newton

I got that, but Jimmah made the comment as if Jimmah was sure it was her, and I am just curious how Jimmah knows that.

If Jimmah can't be sure of that, then we shouldn't assume that it is goddess until we have more info.

Does anyone have her email and can email her and ask?

I do but I hesitate to ask. In fact, I just composed a note to her but I cancelled it.

596 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:30:33am

re: #577 Jimmah

You can tell when they do that. They're not especially clever these folk. A convincing impersonation is way beyond their 'talents'. No, I've read a few of goddess's comments over there now and it's definitely her.

Goddess had a way of taking off whenever a creationist thread came up. It was obvious to me, at least, they made her uncomfortable. If she's saying she feels she doesn't have anything in common with us any more, my guess would be that's the reason. Sad she'd just slip away and not even say anything to us before turning to psychos.

597 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:30:34am

re: #593 turn

That was a quote from Scent of a Woman btw, no insult intended il.

598 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:31:12am

re: #586 turn

This is a first for turn, a fuck thread. ha

We Irish invented that word, you know.
Nobody uses the word "fuck" like the Irish... we've elevated it to an art form.

599 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:31:13am
600 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:31:39am

re: #595 MandyManners

I do but I hesitate to ask. In fact, I just composed a note to her but I cancelled it.

Why? Just ask her.

601 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:31:51am

re: #577 Jimmah

You can tell when they do that. They're not especially clever these folk. A convincing impersonation is way beyond their 'talents'. No, I've read a few of goddess's comments over there now and it's definitely her.

While nothing is impossible, your opinion is only that, opinion, since you have no actual proof.

I know some Lizards have personally emailed goddess, and maybe someone could email her and simply ask her outright, or else, maybe she will post again here at some point and someone can ask.

Until then, this is only a rumor.

602 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:31:52am

re: #591 MrSilverDragon

ha ha, I'm cracking up over this.

603 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:32:10am

I was at a party once & a friend, who uses profanity like a sculptor uses clay, said that he wants to write a children's book about his cats. The whole party fell silent - expect for me, who said "What's the title - The Cutest Fucking Cat in The Whole Fucking World?"

604 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:32:21am

re: #588 Spare O'Lake

Ten thousand updings.

605 rightside  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:32:28am

bbl

606 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:32:39am

OT:
I know there are several tech junkies here, so I'll ask y'all. I'm looking to buy a GPS so I can start geocaching with the kids. I need something inexpensive, but it doesn't need to serve any purpose other than geocaching. Any recommendations?
Thanks!

607 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:32:41am

Why hasn't she posted since May 14?

608 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:32:50am

Another sign of the GOP in disarray....

Harry situation in Nevada

There's no GOP challenger on the horizon, but another Nevada poll is showing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) very, very vulnerable back home.

(R)s could pick off the Senate Majority leader and they've got their thumb up the wazoo.

GAH!

609 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:33:22am

re: #598 Irish Rose

We Irish invented that word, you know.
Nobody uses the word "fuck" like the Irish... we've elevated it to an art form.

It's Germanic in origin.

610 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:33:33am

I just read the most recent thread at the stalker site.

I have NEVER seen gotc use the word "y'all" here. NEVER.

611 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:33:37am

re: #596 Sharmuta

Sad, dang I liked her.

612 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:33:38am

re: #596 Sharmuta

Goddess had a way of taking off whenever a creationist thread came up. It was obvious to me, at least, they made her uncomfortable. If she's saying she feels she doesn't have anything in common with us any more, my guess would be that's the reason. Sad she'd just slip away and not even say anything to us before turning to psychos.

Sharm, we have no absolute proof of this as of yet. And considering we do know that it's a fact that these folks nic-hijack, I say we need more info, or else, just let it drop.

I think your assumption is way beyond the available proof at this time.

613 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:34:09am

re: #590 Walter L. Newton

I did mention the possiblity of impersonation in my first post on the subject. But I've ruled that out. When they impersonate, its stupid, unconvincing, and done for the most juvenile effect. These posts by 'goddess' look like the real deal to me.

Laters

614 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:34:12am

back to fucking work for me.

615 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:34:23am

re: #598 Irish Rose

We Irish invented that word, you know.
Nobody uses the word "fuck" like the Irish... we've elevated it to an art form.

Morning Rose, really? I didn't know that.

616 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:34:34am

re: #612 Walter L. Newton

Sharm, we have no absolute proof of this as of yet. And considering we do know that it's a fact that these folks nic-hijack, I say we need more info, or else, just let it drop.

I think your assumption is way beyond the available proof at this time.

agreed...it's a needless bad vibe

617 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:34:42am

re: #593 turn

Well in keeping with the theme, Fuck you too!

Otto from A Fish Called Wanda comes to mind. After a verbal tirade against John Cleese and being called a true vulgarian, Kevin Kline says, 'You're the vulgarian, you fuck!'

Fuck off, turn.

618 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:34:47am

re: #610 MandyManners

I just read the most recent thread at the stalker site.

I have NEVER seen gotc use the word "y'all" here. NEVER.

I agree- but then, where has she been?

619 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:35:06am

re: #607 Sharmuta

Why hasn't she posted since May 14?

She's a teacher, it's possible it's almost the end of the school year and she is busy or else she is done with school and taking a break or a vacation.

Once again, assumptions, no proof.

620 lawhawk  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:35:12am

This is a message from Notify NYC. Notification 1 05/20/2009 at 10:30 AM. Fleet Week event today includes a low elevation military flyover up the Hudson River, north from the Verrazano Bridge.

Air Force One is not expected to be among the aircraft engaged in the flyby, which coincides with Fleet Week.

621 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:35:34am

re: #610 MandyManners

I just read the most recent thread at the stalker site.

I have NEVER seen gotc use the word "y'all" here. NEVER.


Good Morning Lizards!
That would not be like GOTC to use the word y'all.. She is very proper in her English...

622 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:35:41am

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned on Tuesday that a nuclear Iran would spark an arms race in Middle East.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

And you went to School for how many years to figure that out?

623 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:36:48am

re: #607 Sharmuta

Why hasn't she posted since May 14?

Let's give her the benefit of the doubt. We all have lives outside of LGF.

624 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:37:11am

re: #618 Sharmuta

See...
re: #619 Walter L. Newton

Maybe?

Considering how much you like to deal with fact, I can't believe you are just using vague assumptions and sounding like you are already convinced that she has jumped the shark.

Like I say, it's certainly not possible, but until we have proof, we can't say it's a for sure thing.

Odd reaction from you IMO.

625 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:37:25am

re: #622 Nevergiveup

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned on Tuesday that a nuclear Iran would spark an arms race in Middle East.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

And you went to School for how many years to figure that out?

Some staffer's gonna' lose his job for slipping her the worst case memo, and not the best case memo.

626 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:37:40am
627 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:38:06am

May I politely suggest that we give Goddess a break until someone hears from her on this matter?

She is a dear friend to many of us here, and we owe her that.

628 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:38:06am

re: #610 MandyManners

I just read the most recent thread at the stalker site.

I have NEVER seen gotc use the word "y'all" here. NEVER.

Please email her and get this thing straightened out MM. thanks, turn

629 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:38:15am

Dang, no comments on geocaching equipment. No geocachers in the house?

630 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:38:40am

re: #600 Sharmuta

Why? Just ask her.

If I do, I will treat is as a private communication and not say a word here either way.

631 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:39:31am

re: #618 Sharmuta

I agree- but then, where has she been?

If it's the end of the school year, she's probably very busy with her students and her own kids.

632 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:39:38am

re: #627 Irish Rose

May I politely suggest that we give Goddess a break until someone hears from her on this matter?

She is a dear friend to many of us here, and we owe her that.

I agree 100 percent, and that is what I have been saying in my last few comments. Considering that most Lizards are so concerned with FACTS here, I am amazed at the reaction that I am seeing her this morning.

It's really twilight zone this morning...

633 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:39:57am

re: #629 KansasMom

I've been trying to get the wife to participate in Geocaching ever since I first heard of it. She doesn't really get the point of it, but I'm thinking we'll give it a go some time this summer.

634 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:40:34am

re: #621 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
That would not be like GOTC to use the word y'all.. She is very proper in her English...

That word is a colloquialism and is standard English in many minds. However, I've never seen her use it here. She's not Southern.

635 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:41:13am

re: #618 Sharmuta

I agree- but then, where has she been?

Probably on holiday for a week, or something.
She definitely gets every possible benefit of the doubt in my book.
Fuck LGF2.

636 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:41:27am

re: #617 ilzito guacamolito

Hey I didn't know you were a woman until I clicked on your avatar just now. turn would never talk that way to a woman (hey I got a bridge for sale). ha btw never seen that movie wanda.

637 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:42:53am

re: #623 KansasMom

Let's give her the benefit of the doubt. We all have lives outside of LGF.

Thanks for tha comment mom, you are exactly right.

638 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:43:41am

re: #636 turn

Hey I didn't know you were a woman until I clicked on your avatar just now. turn would never talk that way to a woman (hey I got a bridge for sale). ha btw never seen that movie wanda.

A Fish Called Wanda is well worth a watch. It's almost Monty Python, but it manages to hold its own with its humor. I definitely recommend it.

639 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:44:37am

re: #636 turn

Hey I didn't know you were a woman until I clicked on your avatar just now. turn would never talk that way to a woman (hey I got a bridge for sale). ha btw never seen that movie wanda.


Is it a nice bridge and where is it?

640 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:45:15am

BTW, I'm still updating my blogroll.
Does anyone have a blog that they'd like me to link to?

641 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:45:17am

re: #638 MrSilverDragon

A Fish Called Wanda is well worth a watch. It's almost Monty Python, but it manages to hold its own with its humor. I definitely recommend it.

"Disappointed!"

Great movie!

642 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:45:34am

re: #637 turn

Thanks for tha comment mom, you are exactly right.

It's a bit scary that in a few comments, goddess is suddenly being burned at the stake, and we have NO proof of anything, just ONE comment from someone who can't back up the assumption with any facts.

Gosh, why the witch hunt? Unbelievable.

643 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:45:38am

I just don't see gotc posting on that site. It is filled with rabid hatred toward Charles. The most recent thread has a nasty swipe at NYNana.

644 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:45:58am

re: #607 Sharmuta

Why hasn't she posted since May 14?

I recall getting a wierd blast-o-gram from her in the threads about two weeks ago, and I just let it go. Things seemed okay after that, but I've had a nagging "what-was-up-with-that?" feeling. I don't recall what it was about--I'll go take a look.

IIRC, it was evolution, but I'm not sure.

645 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:46:03am

this oughta stir up some controversy...tee it up!


[Link: www.knoxnews.com...]

646 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:47:23am

"You Can't Take It With You" is on. I don't have to work until this evening. Major cool.

How does one fight like a "circle saw"?

647 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:47:31am

re: #638 MrSilverDragon

I'll keep that in mind. We were talking about similarities between Saving Forester and Scent of a Woman. Same basic plot, they are both great movies.

648 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:47:54am

I see our language is getting colorful tonight.

Allow me to unleash some rainbows.

649 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:47:56am

I agree Walter, I'm really uncomfortable with the tone of this conversation.

It's terribly unfair to attack someone who has been such a loving and supportive friend to all of us here, without any evidence.

650 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:47:58am

re: #629 KansasMom

There's a Wiki article which recommends an inexpensive GPS unit especially made for geocaching -- the Garmin Geomate.jr ...here's a link to the wiki site (if you haven't seen it...if you scroll down to the "tips" section the article discusses the different GPS models available..) (Personally, I haven't done geocaching...so can't give any personal recommendations).

651 opnion  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:48:18am

A woman is suing Chuckie Cheese claiming that the Rat grabbed her breast. Can't make it up.

652 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:48:59am

re: #642 Walter L. Newton

It's a bit scary that in a few comments, goddess is suddenly being burned at the stake, and we have NO proof of anything, just ONE comment from someone who can't back up the assumption with any facts.

Gosh, why the witch hunt? Unbelievable.

Hey Walter, I agree with you. I shouldn't have assumed it really was goddess, I'm just saying if it was it won't matter to me.

653 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:49:15am

re: #638 MrSilverDragon

A Fish Called Wanda is well worth a watch. It's almost Monty Python, but it manages to hold its own with its humor. I definitely recommend it.

Asshooooole!

654 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #619 Walter L. Newton

the end of the school year and she is busy

THE most likely scenario, IMHO. Tomorrow and Friday are the last days of school here in most of Georgia. My wife and I are volunteering at our sons school to help teachers get final exam grades in. Teachers this time of year are SWAMPED

655 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:49:34am

re: #643 MandyManners

I just don't see gotc posting on that site. It is filled with rabid hatred toward Charles. The most recent thread has a nasty swipe at NYNana.

Somebody taking a swipe at NYNana?

*rolls up sleeves*

Let me at 'em!

*spit*

656 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:49:49am

re: #653 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Asshooooole!

"Don't call me stupid!"

657 bosforus  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:50:17am

re: #651 opnion

A woman is suing Chuckie Cheese claiming that the Rat grabbed her breast. Can't make it up.

Someone oughtta tell Chuckie that the cottage cheese is usually found on the back side.
*ducks and runs*

658 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:50:29am

re: #646 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"You Can't Take It With You" is on. I don't have to work until this evening. Major cool.

How does one fight like a "circle saw"?

buzzing around, I guess

659 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:50:38am

+93.26

Hooray!

660 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:51:17am

re: #650 J.S.

There's a Wiki article which recommends an inexpensive GPS unit especially made for geocaching -- the Garmin Geomate.jr ...here's a link to the wiki site (if you haven't seen it...if you scroll down to the "tips" section the article discusses the different GPS models available..) (Personally, I haven't done geocaching...so can't give any personal recommendations).

Many moons ago I did orienteering.
GPS is cheating....

;-P

661 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:51:35am

re: #655 jcm

Somebody taking a swipe at NYNana?

*rolls up sleeves*

Let me at 'em!

*spit*

Thank goodness Savage has left me alone. For some reason, though, he's still ragging on Nana.

662 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:51:58am

re: #643 MandyManners

I just don't see gotc posting on that site. It is filled with rabid hatred toward Charles. The most recent thread has a nasty swipe at NYNana.


One time I was in a chat with a lizard and a few days later he emailed me to let me know our chat was quoted out of Context and it became a thread on LGF2. creepy..

663 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:52:12am

The most recent thing I have from her was a big ol' hug. I found the thing I was looking for, but it certainly hasn't come up again. If we were all to be hanged for individual comments, Mandy would have shot me by now (started off on the wrong foot).

664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:52:17am

re: #643 MandyManners

I am calling shenanigans on it. Not even going to look. I'm starting to get pissed.

People attacking Goddess? Here?

NO FUCKING WAY! STOP IT!

665 Lincolntf  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:52:55am

re: #650 J.S.

I know you weren't talking to me, but thanks for the link. I bookmarked it and will show it to my wife so she understands what I'm talking about when I mention geocaching.

666 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:52:57am
667 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:52:57am

I'm gonna' sign off on this account to go to my alternative account so that I can starting checking off the 489 links I sent the day before yesterday. bbiab

668 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:53:17am

I just photoblogged a nice photo from my trip to Ireland, for those of you who need moment of emotional respite and temporary refuge from the rampant fuckery.

669 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:53:30am

re: #660 jcm

Yeah, those were the days...(map and compass -- and a heck of a lot cheaper than a GPS unit)...

670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:53:31am

re: #664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Killgore too!

671 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:53:44am

re: #603 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #638 MrSilverDragon

A Fish Called Wanda is well worth a watch. It's almost Monty Python, but it manages to hold its own with its humor. I definitely recommend it.

Wanda: You stupid ape!
Otto: Apes don't read Nietzche!
Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it.

672 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:53:53am

re: #664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am calling shenanigans on it. Not even going to look. I'm starting to get pissed.

People attacking Goddess? Here?

NO FUCKING WAY! STOP IT!

What FBV said.

673 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:54:40am

re: #664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am calling shenanigans on it. Not even going to look. I'm starting to get pissed.

People attacking Goddess? Here?

NO FUCKING WAY! STOP IT!

Attacking and making assumptions when they have no absolute proof. And guess what, we may never have any proof. But if we don't, then we are going to have to let it go.

Otherwise, it WILL become a thread on the anti-lgf blogs and it will only result in use looking like jerks.

674 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:55:05am

re: #662 HoosierHoops

One time I was in a chat with a lizard and a few days later he emailed me to let me know our chat was quoted out of Context and it became a thread on LGF2. creepy..

Shar, didn't you get caught in one of those years ago? In fact, I think that was my first acquaintance with you--a discussion where you ripped some idiot for that in the lounge.

675 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:55:06am

re: #671 tankascribe

re: #638 MrSilverDragon

Wanda: You stupid ape!
Otto: Apes don't read Nietzche!
Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it.

"B..B..Ba...Bastard!"

676 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #668 Irish Rose

turn has red hair too, neat pics.

677 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:55:58am

re: #673 Walter L. Newton

Attacking and making assumptions when they have no absolute proof. And guess what, we may never have any proof. But if we don't, then we are going to have to let it go.

Otherwise, it WILL become a thread on the anti-lgf blogs and it will only result in use looking like jerks.

it already has here...there have been about fifty posts after the fact...I say let it go, as in drop the matter

678 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:08am

re: #666 Iron Fist

I find the best way to "discredit" the pro-gun viewpoint is to reiterate that same viewpoint sarcastically. "If people had more guns, there'd be less shootings in this country!"

/90k Philippine Pesos (approx. $1800) to get a gun permit here. WTF.

679 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:09am

re: #670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Me too what? The Stalker blog? They put up a thread about me a couple times a week. They're so dull that even I don't read them most of the time.

680 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:16am

re: #673 Walter L. Newton

Attacking and making assumptions when they have no absolute proof. And guess what, we may never have any proof. But if we don't, then we are going to have to let it go.

Otherwise, it WILL become a thread on the anti-lgf blogs and it will only result in use looking like jerks.

I strongly suggest the person attacking and making the assumptions give as strong of an apology, and as public WHEN the assumptuions are proven false ,,,

Hows that for fairness?

681 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #672 jcm

What FBV said.

Twice!

682 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:37am

re: #664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am calling shenanigans on it. Not even going to look. I'm starting to get pissed.

People attacking Goddess? Here?

NO FUCKING WAY! STOP IT!

No one is attacking her. Perhaps I've gotten too cynical, but after seeing the number of people who can turn around and attack Charles and others here, I don't doubt that people can surprise us.

I will wait and see what happens.

683 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:39am
684 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:56:55am

re: #656 Ford_Prefect

"Don't call me stupid!"

Why on earth not?

685 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:57:11am

re: #674 haakondahl

Shar, didn't you get caught in one of those years ago? In fact, I think that was my first acquaintance with you--a discussion where you ripped some idiot for that in the lounge.

Honey- the stalkers love to stalk me.

686 opnion  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:57:35am

THe Senate is trying to join the House in voting in the affirmative in creating a bipartisan commission to honor Ronald Regan on the 100th anniversary of his birth.
Russ Feingold is blocking the vote because he is not being allowed to attach an unrelateed amendment.

687 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:57:57am

re: #679 Killgore Trout

Me too what? The Stalker blog? They put up a thread about me a couple times a week. They're so dull that even I don't read them most of the time.

FBV, I think, wants people to recognize your deeds as re: your neighbor, and get off your back.

688 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:57:59am

re: #675 Ford_Prefect

"B..B..Ba...Bastard!"

"Apologize."

689 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:58:19am

re: #675 Ford_Prefect

"B..B..Ba...Bastard!"

"Oh my God, it's K-k-k-ken! He's coming to k-k-kill me!"

-- I really think Otto (Kevin Kline) had all the best lines in that movie.

690 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #638 MrSilverDragon

A Fish Called Wanda is well worth a watch. It's almost Monty Python, but it manages to hold its own with its humor. I definitely recommend it.

Its one of those movies I can always turn to if I need a good laugh. Worth buying the DVD!

691 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:58:24am

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

Bringing the post and the implied accusation here was disgusting, and should be dropped forthwith.

here here !

692 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:58:44am
693 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:01am

Politely suggest that you all remember that this is why the cretins at 2.0 impersonate LGF'ers in the first place... they do it to create chaos. They'd like nothing better than to see us eat each other alive, and you all know this.

Don't buy into it.

694 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:15am

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

excellent points...

695 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:17am

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

Everything you said.

696 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:29am

Has anyone been following the California thing. Drudge headline: LET THE CUTS BEGIN! NEW CALIFORNIA TAX REVOLT

...which links to an article titled: Ballot Defeat Leaves Calif. In Deeper Budget Hole


Is this good?

697 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:35am

re: #679 Killgore Trout

NAH. Just getting tired of reading attacks on Lizards, you are esteemed in my eyes. People been jumping your shit lately.

You don't need my "protection" I just want to voice my support for you.

698 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:38am

re: #651 opnion

A woman is suing Chuckie Cheese claiming that the Rat grabbed her breast. Can't make it up.

Is Bill Clinton moonlighting there?

699 lawhawk  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:43am

re: #622 Nevergiveup

A nuclear arms race? Wait a moment.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear power, but it's an open secret. Who else wants nukes and why?

Oh wait, it is everyone who isn't a Shi'ite majority regime in the region (which is to say Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Gulf States, Kuwait, Egypt, Libya, etc, because they fear Iran more than they do Israel. She doesn't quite realize it, but she's actually admitting that the region's mess isn't the fault of Israel, but Iranian instability caused by Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them throughout the region.

Iran was never pursuing nukes to just go and destroy Israel and/or the US, but to play kingmaker and settle a 1,000 year old score with Sunni Muslims.

700 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 7:59:49am

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

Ayatollah Ghilemeini was banned.

701 rhino2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:00:20am

This makes me giggle.

G'morning lizards! Could only manage 4 hours of sleep last night for whatever reason, going to be a long day.

702 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:00:24am

re: #687 reine.de.tout

ah, ok. I haven't been following the thread.

703 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:00:26am

re: #685 Sharmuta

Honey- the stalkers love to stalk me.

See, I'm lucky in this aspect. Most of my comments tend to be innocuous and inane enough that no one would want to impersonate me.

Mediocrity forever! (apologies to Salieri)

704 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:00:33am

re: #683 buzzsawmonkey

buzz gives sanity check, right on.

705 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:00:40am

re: #673 Walter L. Newton

Attacking and making assumptions when they have no absolute proof. And guess what, we may never have any proof. But if we don't, then we are going to have to let it go.

Otherwise, it WILL become a thread on the anti-lgf blogs and it will only result in use looking like jerks.

Sharm, thanks for the down ding on the above comment.

706 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:00:57am

re: #689 tankascribe

"Oh my God, it's K-k-k-ken! He's coming to k-k-kill me!"

-- I really think Otto (Kevin Kline) had all the best lines in that movie.

"You English think you're so fucking superior, don't you? Well would you like to know where you'd be without us, the good ol' U.S. of A. to back you up? The smallest fucking province in the Russian Empire! So don't call me stupid lady, thank me! If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German now, signing 'Deutschland, Deutschland, uder alles..."

707 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:10am

re: #666 Iron Fist

A sign of a more pro-gun attitude in DC.

Senate Votes to Allow Guns at National Parks

The Senate passed a measure today that would allow visitors to carry concealed loaded firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges, approving a bill that could restore a Bush-era policy rejected by a federal judge in March.

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the bill as an amendment to the credit card reform package, which passed the Senate earlier today. Twenty-seven Democrats voted for the amendment, including Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who had blocked similar efforts in the past.

"If an American citizen has a right to carry a firearm in their state, it makes no sense to treat them like a criminal if they pass through a national park while in possession of a firearm,” Coburn said in a statement.

708 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:13am

re: #696 Killgore Trout

Has anyone been following the California thing. Drudge headline: LET THE CUTS BEGIN! NEW CALIFORNIA TAX REVOLT

...which links to an article titled: Ballot Defeat Leaves Calif. In Deeper Budget Hole

Is this good?

Their next step is voting the bums out, but I guess that will have to wait until November, 2010?

709 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:18am

re: #627 Irish Rose

May I politely suggest that we give Goddess a break until someone hears from her on this matter?

She is a dear friend to many of us here, and we owe her that.

Agreed. I don't know what's up with her nic at LGF2. Most of the folks there have a strange illness wherein they have a burning hatred of all things LGF, but can't stop talking about them. Ever notice how their anti-LGF threads get the most comments?

I have a pet theory on why they hate Charles so much. I think they saw him as influential (and he is), and I think they thought they could use his influence to promote their agendas. When Charles did not, they got pissy.

710 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:20am

re: #697 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks.

711 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:40am

re: #689 tankascribe

"Oh my God, it's K-k-k-ken! He's coming to k-k-kill me!"

-- I really think Otto (Kevin Kline) had all the best lines in that movie.

Totally agree.

"Eww. Don't eat the green ones. They're not ripe yet."

712 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:52am

re: #564 MandyManners

LGF2 is known for hijacking nics from here. They've done that to Charles, Kilgore, Sharmuta, NYNana and--I think--me.

I have never been there. Has someone pretending to be me posted there?

713 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:01:53am
714 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:02:18am

re: #660 jcm

Many moons ago I did orienteering.
GPS is cheating....

;-P

That sounds like fun too! Maybe when the kiddos are a little older (my youngest turned 4 yesterday).

715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:02:29am

re: #711 Ford_Prefect

The best line from the movie.

716 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:02:49am

re: #696 Killgore Trout

Has anyone been following the California thing. Drudge headline: LET THE CUTS BEGIN! NEW CALIFORNIA TAX REVOLT

...which links to an article titled: Ballot Defeat Leaves Calif. In Deeper Budget Hole


Is this good?

Maybe. If California learns to live within its means without overtaxing its population, then will be a bitter pill to swallow, but it will do good in the end. If not, then they're screwed.

717 lawhawk  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:02:52am

re: #696 Killgore Trout

California has two options left to it - declare bankruptcy, in which case the feds bail them out and the politicians can claim they did the best they could under the circumstances, or they can issue the significant cuts needed to stem the red ink caused by years of overspending.

Either way, the politicians are going to take the path of least resistance and the one that will most likely result in their reelection. They will cop out and likely run for the bankruptcy/bailout option, because they don't want to be seen as the ones cutting the favored programs of the unions (who are largely the folks who elect these guys to office in the first place).

Rinse and repeat - and you've got the situation that New York and New Jersey and Massachusetts are facing in short order.

718 opnion  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:03:07am

re: #698 Mad Al-Jaffee

Is Bill Clinton moonlighting there?

If he is he is using a nom de fondle. THe guys name is Thigpen.

719 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:03:09am

I view this the same as being searched at the gate just to come onto my own duty station or ship. It's not beneath me to have my bag searched as I return to the ship, because I *want* the bags searched as people return.
I don't get offended and start decrying those who man the gates as fascists or usurpers, or whatever. On this forum, where few of us have ever met, even long-standing friends turn out to be something other than we thought. Sometimes because they changed, sometimes because issues get clarified.
Either way, I haven't seen any attacks. We fact-check each other, we verify each others' bonafides, to the extent that we can. Odds are, we have identified an impostor ("im-poster?").

None of us here is beyond questioning.

720 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:03:27am

Biden feelin' the love in Serbia...

'Go home Nazi scum,' Serb hardliners tell Biden

721 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:03:44am

re: #699 lawhawk

I suspect if they did launch one at Israel, it'd be at Haifa. They've got more than a little grudge toward the Baha'i as well.

/whatever happened to Karridine?

722 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:03:50am

re: #696 Killgore Trout

Has anyone been following the California thing. Drudge headline: LET THE CUTS BEGIN! NEW CALIFORNIA TAX REVOLT

...which links to an article titled: Ballot Defeat Leaves Calif. In Deeper Budget Hole

Is this good?

Yes.

Until government at all levels learns it's citizens are not subjects to be milked for an endless supply of revenue, there will be no fiscal restraint.

Just like a crack addict, CA and the Federal government need to hit bottom before they'll rethink there lifestyle.

723 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:03:53am

re: #712 Alouette

I have never been there. Has someone pretending to be me posted there?

I've not seen it. But, I don't recall you ever had a run in with the banned leader of that rabid pack.

724 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:04:02am

re: #711 Ford_Prefect

"Eww. Don't eat the green ones. They're not ripe yet."

"I'm thinking!"

725 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:04:20am

re: #708 Ward Cleaver

I was reading an article yesterday saying that Arnold was going to release all the detained illegal aliens and stop a lot of government services. California is already on the brink from what I understand. I guess the Federal government might have to step in if things get bad enough.

726 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:04:42am

re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The best line from the movie.

I love Scent of a woman..Seen it 50 or so times..
Never heard of finding forrester.. Time to rent it I guess

727 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:05:05am

re: #713 buzzsawmonkey

He felt the need to defend robert despite being shown a few things which brought robert's credibility into question. Frankly- robert flat out lied to him, but AG will have to learn this the hard way.

728 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:05:06am

re: #720 NJDhockeyfan

Bush went to Albania and was greeted by jubilant crowds shortly before his term ended. No doubt the Serb ultranationalists would be resentful at the US government for supporting their rivals in Kosovo.

729 lawhawk  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:05:37am

re: #721 laZardo

Jews will be the first target - Tel Aviv being the primary target - and if they're off a bit, it means Jerusalem gets hit and/or any of the shore communities, not like it will make much of a difference to those living in close proximity. It would effectively destroy Israel as we know it, and the proxy armies of Hamas and Hizbullah would step into the fight, dancing with glee the whole while as Israel burns.

730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:05:38am

re: #724 tankascribe

"Eww. Don't eat the green ones. They're not ripe yet."

"I'm thinking!"

"You have wonderful bones & dress really interestingly."

731 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:05:39am

re: #717 lawhawk

Ah, thanks. That's my guess too.

732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:05:46am

re: #726 HoosierHoops

"Don't eat the green ones" is from "A Fish Called Wanda".

I didn't think "Finding Forester" was all that good.

733 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:06:05am

re: #709 Honorary Yooper

I have a pet theory on why they hate Charles so much. I think they saw him as influential (and he is), and I think they thought they could use his influence to promote their agendas. When Charles did not, they got pissy.



They're also raving lunatics, dangerous nutcases in need of intense psychotherapy to get to the root of what really ails them. Their irrational, obsessive, deep-seated hatred of Charles is nothing but a vehicle for their collective psychosis.

734 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:06:06am

re: #722 jcm

Yes.

Until government at all levels learns it's citizens are not subjects to be milked for an endless supply of revenue, there will be no fiscal restraint.

Just like a crack addict, CA and the Federal government need to hit bottom before they'll rethink there lifestyle.

What? Federal employees on a twelve step program?

Now, that's worth a look.

735 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:06:11am

BBIAB

736 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:06:41am

re: #714 KansasMom

That sounds like fun too! Maybe when the kiddos are a little older (my youngest turned 4 yesterday).

Learning to navigate with map and compass, and learn some basic celestial navigation techniques is a big confidence booster.

When they learn they'll never be lost, always know where they are and be able to go where they want to with no worries about where they are it's a great skill.

737 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:06:57am

re: #696 Killgore Trout

Has anyone been following the California thing. Drudge headline: LET THE CUTS BEGIN! NEW CALIFORNIA TAX REVOLT

...which links to an article titled: Ballot Defeat Leaves Calif. In Deeper Budget Hole

Is this good?

Short term, maybe not, but long term it will be. The people "get it", the government has no clue. This piece in the WSJ yesterday was spot on. Soak the Rich, Lose the Rich

738 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:07:24am

re: #736 jcm

Give me a GPS any day.

739 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:07:26am

re: #729 lawhawk

Tel Aviv is also where pretty much all the foreign embassies are (because Jerusalem is too "touchy".) It'd be suicidal, but that's probably what the crazy ayatollahs want.

In Haifa, you have Jews and Baha'i. Two kinds of infidels with one holy rocket.

/as it were.

740 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:07:29am

re: #734 unreconstructed rebel

What? Federal employees on a twelve step program?

Now, that's worth a look.

Cold fucking turkey.....

No hand holding for those thieves.

741 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:07:31am
742 silvergirl  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:09:16am

re: #708 Ward Cleaver

Their next step is voting the bums out, but I guess that will have to wait until November, 2010?

I would wager that California is more ready for Meg Whitman than ever before.

743 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:09:17am

re: #722 jcm

Yes.

Until government at all levels learns it's citizens are not subjects to be milked for an endless supply of revenue, there will be no fiscal restraint.

Just like a crack addict, CA and the Federal government need to hit bottom before they'll rethink there lifestyle.

Exactly why I rejected the measures that would do nothing but delay this.

744 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:10:23am

re: #741 buzzsawmonkey

I know. I tried to tell him, but he didn't seem to think that robert would do such a thing as lie to him.

745 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:10:56am
746 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:10:59am

re: #741 buzzsawmonkey

That's too bad, all around.


Hey Buzzsaw! Hope today finds you well..
I'm sitting here pondering what to have for lunch...Since Veggie brought up a fish named wanda..I think fish sounds good..Dill sauce..I know this joint that makes a mean Dill sauce..

747 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:11:27am

Please folks, let's stop talking about Goddess and just let it go for now.
Please.

FYI, if anyone sees a post over there from Irish Rose (or Wild Irish Rose), it's not me. Even if I were banned here at LGF, and feeling angry about it, I'd still be above posting at that cesspool of a blog. Angry or not, I'd never associate with those jerks. Ever.

748 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:11:50am

re: #722 jcm

Yes.

Until government at all levels learns it's citizens are not subjects to be milked for an endless supply of revenue, there will be no fiscal restraint.

Just like a crack addict, CA and the Federal government need to hit bottom before they'll rethink there lifestyle.

History suggests that failed governments are never rehabilitated. They just getswept out. Most often with unpleasant side-effects.

749 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:11:59am
750 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:12:06am

re: #726 HoosierHoops

I love Scent of a woman..Seen it 50 or so times..
Never heard of finding forrester.. Time to rent it I guess

Save yourself the trouble & just visit yourethemannowdog.com. Only part of the movie that was worthwhile, in an infinite loop.

751 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:12:16am

QUESTIONS,, and I would like serious answers

A) why would any of us even go to the "stalker sites"?

B) Letting the curiousity overtake you and finding yourself there, what would compel you to relay what you saw there here?

Sounds kinda 4th grade school yardish to me!

("you don't like Bobby, but I was just over there and here's what he said abouyt you!")

752 SFGoth  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:12:28am

Because it's one of the links above, I just want to say, I don't find Jessica Biel attractive at all. Now, Paulina Porizkova, even at 42, is still :ubersexlich.

753 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:12:33am

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

754 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:12:36am

re: #743 turn

Exactly why I rejected the measures that would do nothing but delay this.

My first career was the Fire Department.

I reject FD levies when they come up on the ballot.

I then call my city council and ask them why isn't Public Safety the first budget priority and isn't left off the budget and put on levies.

Because they damn well know the people are suckers and will vote for the FD.

755 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #729 lawhawk

Jews will be the first target - Tel Aviv being the primary target - and if they're off a bit, it means Jerusalem gets hit and/or any of the shore communities, not like it will make much of a difference to those living in close proximity. It would effectively destroy Israel as we know it, and the proxy armies of Hamas and Hizbullah would step into the fight, dancing with glee the whole while as Israel burns.

Israel will not burn alone.

756 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:13:24am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

{ friend}

757 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:13:27am

re: #726 HoosierHoops

You're going to like it, but unlike Scent of a Woman you will get burned out watching it more than a couple of times. btw, I've probably watched Scent about the same number of times just to see the ending.

758 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:13:39am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

Chin up, keep up, something will come from where/ when you least expect it !

759 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:13:39am

re: #745 Iron Fist

That sounds pretty...survivalist.

/what right-wing extremism?

// 0:

760 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #748 unreconstructed rebel

History suggests that failed governments are never rehabilitated. They just getswept out. Most often with unpleasant side-effects.

I have more faith in the American people.

In the end the majority of people get it right.

761 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:14:00am

re: #738 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Give me a GPS any day.

I agree, but map-reading skills are still important. GPS is a great tool, but batteries run out of juice its good to have a backup. I think of GPS as a toy, and maps as real-world tools.

762 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:14:10am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

We've all been saying "fuck" a lot. Hope you consider that uplifting!

763 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:14:59am

re: #747 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose.

See why I don't go to other sites? Frankly, I think that every time we mention them (here on the real site), someone over there is in ecstasy (wink wink, nudge nudge).

764 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:15:00am

re: #761 KansasMom

I agree, but map-reading skills are still important. GPS is a great tool, but batteries run out of juice its good to have a backup. I think of GPS as a toy, and maps as real-world tools.

Map reading is a dying art. I should know. I work in Land Surveying.

765 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:15:02am

re: #696 Killgore Trout

Has anyone been following the California thing. Drudge headline: LET THE CUTS BEGIN! NEW CALIFORNIA TAX REVOLT

...which links to an article titled: Ballot Defeat Leaves Calif. In Deeper Budget Hole


Is this good?

It's good that people are waking up; it's going to be bad economically speaking. My husband is a state employee (who declares that the Official State Worker motto should be: "I don't work, I'm employed") so our household budget has taken a 10% pay cut. California payroll taxes have gone up for both of us, and the 1% sales tax hike and the gasoline tax hike have made the cost of everything go up. But we just can't let the legislature grab more rope and pay it out -- it has got to stop and I think most folks are willing to take it on the chin for a while if there's even a small hope that when we come out the other side, the attitude in Sacramento will change.

Sometimes the best action is just to stand back and let a thing break, then you can truly fix it. Our fear is that the Fed will step in and enable the same (and more!) spend-Spend-SPENDING. Then not only will California's hole be dug deeper, we'll have an even heavier Federal tax burden on top of it.

766 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:15:07am

re: #741 buzzsawmonkey

There are many who will learn the hard way about their supposed "friends" and their associations. I think AG will be one of them, and it will come on him like a ton of bricks about Spencer and Geller. I know I had a hard time believing it at first, but the evidence was there, and the simple fact that Spencer lets the twits post "kill them all" statements without deleting or chastising them is most telling.

767 Ojoe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:15:27am

re: #700 Sharmuta

Ayatollah Ghilemeini was banned.

Too bad.

768 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:15:32am

re: #757 turn

You're going to like it, but unlike Scent of a Woman you will get burned out watching it more than a couple of times. btw, I've probably watched Scent about the same number of times just to see the ending.

If I had a flamethrower..I'd burn this place to the ground!
/I love that line

769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:15:58am

re: #753 midwestgak

{GAK!}

770 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:16:13am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

{midwestgak}

Prayers for a great job.

771 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:17:09am

re: #753 midwestgak

{gal}

772 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:17:28am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

At least you don't have this guys job.

/

773 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:17:29am

re: #768 HoosierHoops

If I had a flamethrower..I'd burn this place to the ground!
/I love that line

Lt. Col. Frank Slade: [Charlie comes back in the room to see Frank putting on his uniform] You're back too fast. You didn't get my cigars, did you? Get outta here Charlie.
[Loads the .45]
Charlie Simms: I thought we had a deal.
Lt. Col. Frank Slade: I welched. I'm a welcher. Didn't I tell you?

774 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:17:31am

re: #764 Ford_Prefect

Map reading is a dying art. I should know. I work in Land Surveying.

I can't "center" on an IBM Selectric either.

775 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:17:39am

Well, shit. I have about 200 links already at the alternate screen name.

776 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:18:24am

re: #775 MandyManners

Well, shit. I have about 200 links already at the alternate screen name.

Mandy, can you explain what you are talking about. I'm not sure what you mean?

777 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:18:29am

re: #725 Killgore Trout

I was reading an article yesterday saying that Arnold was going to release all the detained illegal aliens and stop a lot of government services. California is already on the brink from what I understand. I guess the Federal government might have to step in if things get bad enough.

Really?
Threats to the citizens never work out too good in the end. If RINO ahnold starts doing that he will have all of his bullshit wasteful spending put under a microscope.

778 irongrampa  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:18:32am

re: #669 J.S.


Heh. We used to say the most dangerous thing in the world was a butterbar with a map. Good times.

779 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:18:35am

re: #747 Irish Rose

I've seen that Rose over there, and at the Bald Stooge blog. She (I'm assuming it is a she) seems to really dislike LGF. Gotta wonder who she was here.

780 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:19:05am

re: #415 Ward Cleaver

We in Texas are hopefully going to get a new law allowing concealed carry on college campuses. It's passed the Senate, and now needs to pass the House.

Good luck!

781 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #764 Ford_Prefect

Map reading is a dying art. I should know. I work in Land Surveying.

Compass and map don't need batteries.

Learning fundamentals of celestial navigation, with a watch and watch alone you get a dead reckoning of you position anywhere on the planet, enough to know which direction is the best to go.

782 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:19:08am

re: #772 Ford_Prefect

Fantastic! Great job to hate.

(Psst. Ford, Hoosier hasn't seen Hitchikers Guide, or read the books)

783 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:19:09am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

We may only know each other through text, but I offer my positive thoughts to you, and believe that something wonderful will soon come your way.

784 bosforus  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:20:24am

re: #751 sattv4u2

QUESTIONS,, and I would like serious answers

A) why would any of us even go to the "stalker sites"?

B) Letting the curiousity overtake you and finding yourself there, what would compel you to relay what you saw there here?

My answer to A - Head-popping can be very entertaining. Heads pop over there like pimples on a 10th grader's face.
My answer to B - I don't think I've ever felt compelled to say anything more than words to the effect of "what a bunch of obsessed a*hole children".

785 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:20:54am

re: #782 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fantastic! Great job to hate.

(Psst. Ford, Hoosier hasn't seen Hitchikers Guide, or read the books)

Seriously? Hoosier, you gotta read the books. They are quick easy reading and they are very funny. Lots of quoting material.

786 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:20:54am

re: #754 jcm

Suckers, you got that right. The stooopid voters here fall for all of these "feel good" propositions. Schools, prisons, high speed rail, clean water, and on and on and on. I'm fed up.

787 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:20:59am

re: #730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"You have wonderful bones & dress really interestingly."

ROTFL!

788 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:21:02am

I am reminded of when another long time, beloved LGFer was found making mean comments towards Charles at another blog- and folks got pissed off at the messenger for that instead of the offender.

My apologies for my cynicism, but I've seen enough people turn on LGF to last a lifetime, and yet I know it's not over. There will be more. I pray that it is not your dear friend who does such a thing. Or any of our friends here for that matter, but history has shown it happens, and I think it will happen again.

I hope this time it's a false flag being raised, but I likewise hope you guys are prepared for more of this from people we would never expect. I don't say this to create paranoia between us- that's not my intent. It's just a sad reality.

789 ConservatismNow!  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:21:18am

re: #761 KansasMom

I agree, but map-reading skills are still important. GPS is a great tool, but batteries run out of juice its good to have a backup. I think of GPS as a toy, and maps as real-world tools.

I agree with this. Land nav skills are important for any outdoorsman. You can't rely on just the GPS anymore than a carpenter can rely on just his circular saw.

790 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:22:21am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.

Need a laugh?
Cephalopod Surprise!

791 irongrampa  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:23:30am

Oops. Pardon me--good morning, from the Adirondacks-cloudy but warm today. Section 14, Page 334, subsection B says that temps should be in the low to mid60's, with interspersed sun and cloud. Pleased to say we're in good compliance, the penalties are, I feel, excessive.

792 Ojoe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:24:26am

re: #789 ConservatismNow!

BTW the California Auto Club quit printing all its fold-up road maps because of all the electronic navigation devices in cars now.

Big loss.

793 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:00am
794 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:25am

re: #788 Sharmuta

Would you go over there if Charles banned you? I made a post over there once (pitching a hissy fit at them) but Charles could ban me and they'd never see me. I'd email and beg to be let back in, but I'd never go over there. I believe there are quite a few Lizards who would never do that, and you are one of those. GOTC is another. That's all.

Love ya Shar, ain't gonna be cynical about a selected few (you included).

{finger}

795 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:28am

re: #765 tankascribe

I don't work, I'm employed. heh that sums it up nicely. I voted to reject the measures precisely to let it break.

796 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:48am

re: #777 VegasRick

Really?
Threats to the citizens never work out too good in the end. If RINO ahnold starts doing that he will have all of his bullshit wasteful spending put under a microscope.

Yeah. Let him. We don't care any more.

797 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:48am

re: #788 Sharmuta

I learned a long Long LONG time ago that not everyone that I come into contact with is going to
A) like me
B) will say nasty things about me behind my back
C) and most important, not to give a RATS ASS about it if they do

Someone wants to disparage me without confronting ME about it, thats a them problem, not a me problem. I have real life things to concern myself with

798 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:52am
799 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:25:58am

re: #777 VegasRick

Threats to the citizens never work out too good in the end. If RINO ahnold starts doing that he will have all of his bullshit wasteful spending put under a microscope.

It will be interesting to see how this work out. It could go either way and is the possibility of intended consequences. There is the possibility that the Federal government is going to have to fund California's state services instead of the Californians.

800 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:26:02am

re: #794 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Would you go over there if Charles banned you?

FUCK NO! Those people hate me.

801 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:26:22am

re: #783 MrSilverDragon

Lovely wordsmithing.

802 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:26:31am

re: #800 Sharmuta

Oops- forgot to quote that.

803 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:26:45am

re: #792 Ojoe

BTW the California Auto Club quit printing all its fold-up road maps because of all the electronic navigation devices in cars now.

Big loss.

Map fans.....

Raven maps.

Beautiful maps.

804 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:26:48am

re: #800 Sharmuta

yay!

805 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:27:02am

re: #788 Sharmuta

I am reminded of when another long time, beloved LGFer was found making mean comments towards Charles at another blog- and folks got pissed off at the messenger for that instead of the offender.

My apologies for my cynicism, but I've seen enough people turn on LGF to last a lifetime, and yet I know it's not over. There will be more. I pray that it is not your dear friend who does such a thing. Or any of our friends here for that matter, but history has shown it happens, and I think it will happen again.

I hope this time it's a false flag being raised, but I likewise hope you guys are prepared for more of this from people we would never expect. I don't say this to create paranoia between us- that's not my intent. It's just a sad reality.

I don't disagree with you, Sharmuta... you know that.
But it's foolish and counterproductive to leap to conclusions before we have some kind of proof regarding the persons' actual identity.

806 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:27:06am

re: #789 ConservatismNow!

I agree with this. Land nav skills are important for any outdoorsman. You can't rely on just the GPS anymore than a carpenter can rely on just his circular saw.

You would be amazed at how many people can't see in a straight line, never mind walk in one. Had a client one time that wanted the corners of her square lot pinned. I set the pins and then showed her where there were. There was a nice clean line of site from one front corner to the corresponding back corner. We stood on one and looked at the other and she said "So where does the line go from here?" I said, "It goes straight from here to that pin there." She looked at it and said "I don't know what you mean."

807 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:27:22am

re: #768 HoosierHoops

Out of order? I'll show you out of order!

yeah, great movie.

808 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:27:30am

re: #800 Sharmuta

Would you go over there if Charles banned you?

FUCK NO! Those people hate me.


see my 797 ,, especially the conclusion.

809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:28:30am

re: #797 sattv4u2

Do you listen to Colin Cowherd? He uses the expression "that is a YOU problem" all the time. Very apt.

810 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:28:57am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Do you listen to Colin Cowherd? He uses the expression "that is a YOU problem" all the time. Very apt.

yup

811 Ojoe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:29:19am

re: #803 jcm

Thanks. Bookmarked.

812 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:29:57am

re: #785 Ford_Prefect

Seriously? Hoosier, you gotta read the books. They are quick easy reading and they are very funny. Lots of quoting material.


Maybe I'll check them out..Somethings just don't interest me..Star trek, Star wars, The ring movies..Ect
/Don't ding me bro!

813 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:01am

Good morning again y'all! Back from Oncologists office and it appears that Mom and I are each "holding our own" against the cancer, though my grasp is somewhat more "slippery" than Mom's.
So what's everyone talking about today?

814 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:09am

re: #799 Killgore Trout

It will be interesting to see how this work out. It could go either way and is the possibility of intended consequences. There is the possibility that the Federal government ALL OF US NON-CALIFORNIANS are going to have to fund California's state services instead of the Californians.

FTFY!

815 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:33am

re: #798 Iron Fist

Yeah, the tide may finally be turning in our favor. I was floored by the 9th Circuit decision a couple of weeks ago. The 9th is the most liberal circuit in the country. If they see no alternative to incorporating the Second Amendment under the 14th and, thus, applying it to the States, then I will be shocked if the other Circuit courts don't follow suit and do the same.

There's still a lot of work to do. I want to see Volkner-McClure, the '68 GCA, and the '34 NFA tossed. I don't see how these massive infringements on my civil rights can survive if the Court uses the "Strict Scrutinity" standards like it does for other civil rights. If the Feds (and States) want to be in the gun control business, then they have a Constitution to go amend. Good luck with that.

The 9th has a new chief justice who is rather conservative.

816 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:34am

re: #803 jcm

Map fans.....

Raven maps.

Beautiful maps.

Very nice.

817 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:40am

That's wonderful news, realwest.

818 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:42am

re: #813 realwest


So what's everyone talking about today?

Fuck all.

819 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:30:55am

Thanks all. Imagine how I would have felt if no one responded. Thanks again.

820 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:31:03am

re: #813 realwest

College resumes in approximately 15 hours.

You?

821 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:31:50am

re: #813 realwest

Good morning again y'all! Back from Oncologists office and it appears that Mom and I are each "holding our own" against the cancer, though my grasp is somewhat more "slippery" than Mom's.
So what's everyone talking about today?

REAL!

All over the place....

I'm still chuckling over the dog poop poll troll last night myself.

822 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:32:12am

re: #814 VegasRick

Yup. I don't think that's what the Tea Party crowd had in mind. Also from the end of that article....

Partial results from nearly 70 percent of precincts reporting late Tuesday showed only 19 percent of voters had cast a ballot, according to the secretary of state's office.

That number is expected to rise over the next month as provisional and vote-by-mail ballots that were returned on Election Day are counted.

The lowest turnout on record for a California special election was 36 percent in 1993.


They had record low turnout. The voters are hardly motivated.

823 Ojoe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:32:30am

re: #812 HoosierHoops

Tolkein's writing in the Lord of the Rings is exquisite, we read them all aloud to our kids, the images and the rhythm of the words are flawless. MUCH better than the movies, by far.

824 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:32:35am

re: #812 HoosierHoops

Maybe I'll check them out..Somethings just don't interest me..Star trek, Star wars, The ring movies..Ect
/Don't ding me bro!

I would never ding you for something like that. The thing with the Hitchhiker's books is that there are really funny and a great commentary on life. Give them a shot.

825 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:32:56am

re: #813 realwest

Good morning again y'all! Back from Oncologists office and it appears that Mom and I are each "holding our own" against the cancer, though my grasp is somewhat more "slippery" than Mom's.
So what's everyone talking about today?

I was going to say fuck you real but then decided you might get offended. ha Stay healthy my friend.

826 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:33:08am

re: #813 realwest

Good morning again y'all! Back from Oncologists office and it appears that Mom and I are each "holding our own" against the cancer, though my grasp is somewhat more "slippery" than Mom's.
So what's everyone talking about today?

Good news, real.!

827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:33:08am

re: #813 realwest

Holy shit Real! You're nearing 80K comments!

828 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:34:39am
829 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:34:40am

re: #827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Elitist.

/ C:

830 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:15am

re: #813 realwest

re: #827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy shit Real! You're nearing 80K comments!

He's worn out 17 keyboards and is on his third set of fingers

831 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:18am
832 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:24am
833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:24am

re: #829 laZardo

ZARDO!

834 MandyManners  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:27am

re: #776 Walter L. Newton

Mandy, can you explain what you are talking about. I'm not sure what you mean?

I've been trying to figure out how to get rid of the vast majority of my 2,500 MY FAVORITES. As you can imagine, it's been very frustrating. If I deleted a huge chunk, the remaining ones would get shuffled all over the place.

Monday I found out that I could right-click on my title of a FAVORITE and it would send it to my alternate screen name. Previously, I thought that I had to open up the link, C-P the URL into a blank e-mail and make sure that I got my title of the FAVORITE correct. This new method allowed me to send 489 links about FCBBHO/ACORN/Ayers/et al./et cet. in a few hours.

I'm here at my alternate FAVORITES and there are a bunch I gotta' either delete immediately or, open them up and either keep them or delete them. GAH!

835 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:32am

re: #817 Sharmuta
Thanks Sharm! I feel as if I've been sort "holding my breath" for a while, and today I can breathe a little easier!
How are you doing?

836 ConservatismNow!  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:36am

re: #813 realwest

Good morning again y'all! Back from Oncologists office and it appears that Mom and I are each "holding our own" against the cancer, though my grasp is somewhat more "slippery" than Mom's.
So what's everyone talking about today?

That's good to hear. Holding your own, no matter how tenuous, is still better than losing ground.

837 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:42am

re: #824 Ford_Prefect

I would never ding you for something like that. The thing with the Hitchhiker's books is that there are really funny and a great commentary on life. Give them a shot.

It helps if you get British humor. . .one of the lines I rememebr from the movie was lost on my friend who did not "get it". . .

Do Panic. . .:)

838 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:46am

re: #823 Ojoe

Tolkein's writing in the Lord of the Rings is exquisite, we read them all aloud to our kids, the images and the rhythm of the words are flawless. MUCH better than the movies, by far.

Totally agree. Great writers are great writers, whatever genre they choose to write in. Ray Bradbury is one of my favorites. I often find myself reading a passage and then going right back and rereading it because it was such a powerful image. Anyone who doesn't read him because they don't like science fiction is really missing out.

839 acwgusa  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:51am

re: #799 Killgore Trout

It will be interesting to see how this work out. It could go either way and is the possibility of intended consequences. There is the possibility that the Federal government is going to have to fund California's state services instead of the Californians.

The Feds fund most of services anyway. 80% of our services have Fed Financing.

840 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:35:56am

re: #831 zionblog

What is with the obsession with evolution? Who cares.

How about that the new Iranian missile launch picture looks phot shopped (again). Prove that. Looks out of prospective - the missile and dust clouds. Also, you would think that low, the fire should still be seen reaching the ground

photo linky !?!?!

841 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:36:16am

re: #818 Mad Al-Jaffee

Fuck all.

As if I should fucking know what the fuck is fucking going on here.

842 acwgusa  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:36:32am

re: #839 acwgusa

The Feds fund most of services anyway. 80% of our services have Fed Financing.

Most of our services. Brain-dead is no way to start a Wednesday, buddy.

843 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:36:43am

re: #827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy shit Real! You're nearing 80K comments!

Damn presumptuous hatchling!

/ ;-P

844 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:36:58am

re: #833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FBVFVBVFFBBVFBVFBVB

/ waitwat

845 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:36:59am

re: #707 jcm

A sign of a more pro-gun attitude in DC.

Senate Votes to Allow Guns at National Parks

"Bush-era"! DRINK!

846 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:37:03am

Parachuting in on this thread... I'm following Christina Bellatoni's (WashTimes) twitter. She's at Columbia U. graduation...

Some lovely quotes from Pres. Lee Bollinger...

""Crisis in journalsim a crisis in democracy" & laments "shallow opinion mongering" not to be taken lightly"

"unlikely the lone blogger could have had the wearwithal" to do Pulitzer level work"

""there will have to be new sources of funding" for press, lauds BBC, other govt supported news"

""Must see foreign press as our press too" talks censorship, calls 4 press 2 have "full unfettered" access 2 war zones"

847 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:37:03am

re: #832 buzzsawmonkey

One last comment on certain people's practice of dragging in posts from stalker sites and speaking about them in the alleged poster's absence:

Mindin' other people's business seems to be high-tone;
I've got all I can do just to mind my own
Why don't you mind your own business (mind your own business)?
Why don't you mind your own business (mind your own business)?
'Cause if you mind your own business then you sure won't be mindin' mine.

--Hank Williams

848 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:37:12am

re: #815 MandyManners

The 9th has a new chief justice who is rather conservative.

In other news, record low temps in Hell ...

;)

849 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:37:20am

re: #821 jcm
jcm! What "dog poop poll troll"?

850 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:37:38am

re: #835 realwest

Thanks Sharm! I feel as if I've been sort "holding my breath" for a while, and today I can breathe a little easier!
How are you doing?


Great news Real! Hope you stay on top and win this thing..
Lunchtime!

851 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:37:49am

I'm not in the greatest mood myself today, lizards. My youngest son (17) got into some trouble last night for letting someone talk him into making a really stupid choice, and I was dragged out of bed at 2am to deal with it.

I keep telling him that he's going to be judged by the company that he keeps. He never wants to hear it... hopefully, he's going to start hearing it now.

I'm heading out to the flower garden this afternoon, to work my frustration out on a patch of weeds.

852 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:38:13am

re: #848 OldLineTexan

In other news, record low temps in Hell ...

;)

the upside of global warming? :)

853 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #771 turn

{gal}

You always remember how I got my nic. {turn}

854 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:38:42am

re: #825 turn
Uh, thanks - why were you gonna say "fuck you" to me - have you got a sudden death wish or something?
:)

855 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:38:57am

re: #851 Irish Rose

Don't worry. He still won't hear you.

856 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:07am

Since this is obviously the "fuck" thread...

857 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:08am

re: #795 turn

I don't work, I'm employed. heh that sums it up nicely. I voted to reject the measures precisely to let it break.


Yep, the hubby always get a big laugh with that line. Although in his workplace, they used to have 28 people, now they're down to 6 to do the same work so none of them are what one would call a slacker.

Thank heavens that probably the only ones who turned out yesterday to vote were conservatives, and we've all had it with the never-ending borrowing so the State can continue to fund its slate of do-gooder handout Ponzi schemes and social experiments on our backs (and wallets). Although even my liberal mother and aunt voted down everything except that last one (no politicians get raises when the state's in a deficit year).

Personally, I feel that San Quentin would look great if they tore down that decaying eyesore and built a bunch of huge office towers on it. Let some big Saudi firm buy up the Oakland Coliseum and the SF Cow Palace and do whatever they like with it. Let a bunch of prisoners make parole early. Release the illegal immigrants -- they're all going back to Mexico anyway because the work here has dried up (and for the first time I feel like I can drive into a parking lot on Monument Blvd in the city of Concord without the fear of being mugged by all the hangers-on).

858 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:29am

re: #851 Irish Rose

{IR} I just went through that this past week's end. . .15 year old wanting to make a name for himself. . .as my first JD. . .sigh

859 irongrampa  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:31am

re: #846 tfc3rid

"full unfettered access to war zones"?

Let them walk point.

860 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:41am

re: #826 Ford_Prefect
Thanks a lot Ford - I really feel relaxed for the first time in months.

861 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:42am

{rose}

862 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:47am

re: #851 Irish Rose

I'm not in the greatest mood myself today, lizards. My youngest son (17) got into some trouble last night for letting someone talk him into making a really stupid choice, and I was dragged out of bed at 2am to deal with it.

I keep telling him that he's going to be judged by the company that he keeps. He never wants to hear it... hopefully, he's going to start hearing it now.

I'm heading out to the flower garden this afternoon, to work my frustration out on a patch of weeds.

Don't do it Irish Rose! Weed won't solve your problems. Oh, wait...you mean... never mind.

863 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:39:47am

re: #855 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't worry. He still won't hear you.

Thanks, I feel much better now.

864 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:00am

re: #753 midwestgak

Lizards. I haven't been here regularly for some time now. Came this a.m. to find some uplifting dialog.

I'm posting because I need some uplifting. And please, don't ask me how I'm doing. Joblessness has really taken its toll. Looking. Not finding.


Have you found somewhere to volunteer? They get some of your time and energy, you get some friends, and sometimes, a job. Mileage varies greatly, of course, but when your usual channels have dried up, it's a great way to make some new ones.

865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:14am

re: #856 Honorary Yooper

I'll raise you!

866 Baier  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:15am

re: #831 zionblog

What is with the obsession with evolution? Who cares.

How about that the new Iranian missile launch picture looks phot shopped (again). Prove that. Looks out of prospective - the missile and dust clouds. Also, you would think that low, the fire should still be seen reaching the ground

I think evolution, among other issues, are what are preventing the GOP from gaining power and being able to deal with Iran. I don't want to speak for Charles, but for me that's why it is important.

867 Digital Display  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:25am

re: #854 realwest

Uh, thanks - why were you gonna say "fuck you" to me - have you got a sudden death wish or something?
:)

It was a fuck thread earlier..Then it morphed into a fucked up thread..
Then it came back from the edge...

868 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:26am

re: #832 buzzsawmonkey

One last comment on certain people's practice of dragging in posts from stalker sites and speaking about them in the alleged poster's absence:

Mindin' other people's business seems to be high-tone;
I've got all I can do just to mind my own
Why don't you mind your own business (mind your own business)?
Why don't you mind your own business (mind your own business)?
'Cause if you mind your own business then you sure won't be mindin' mine.

--Hank Williams

What the hell happened?

I meant to say -
Excellent point and choice of reinforcement of same.

869 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:33am

re: #720 NJDhockeyfan

Biden feelin' the love in Serbia...

'Go home Nazi scum,' Serb hardliners tell Biden

Wow, they didn't exactly roll out the welcome mat, huh?

As much as I hate Biden, I hate the genocide supporters even more.

870 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:43am

re: #860 realwest

Glad to hear your news, my friend.

871 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:45am
872 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:40:48am

re: #854 realwest

Uh, thanks - why were you gonna say "fuck you" to me - have you got a sudden death wish or something?
:)

naw don't kill me real, this is just the first fuck thread I've ever seen here at LGF.

873 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:04am

re: #830 sattv4u2

re: #827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's worn out 17 keyboards and is on his third set of fingers

Eighty thousand? I just passed 40,000 recently.

874 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:07am

This is encouraging...76 senators sign letter to O about Israel.

US Senators press Obama on 'risk' for Israel

WASHINGTON (AFP) – A vast majority of US senators on Tuesday urged President Barack Obama to mind the "risks" to Israel in any Middle East peace accord as he presses for a two-state solution to the six-decade conflict.

"As we work closely with our democratic ally, Israel, we must take into account the risks it will face in any peace agreement," 76 of the 100 senators wrote Obama in a letter released to reporters.

"Without a doubt, our two governments will agree on some issues and disagree on others, but the United States friendship with Israel requires that we work closely together as we recommit ourselves to our historic role of a trusted friend and active mediator," they wrote.

Question: Which 24 senators did not sign the letter?

875 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:11am

re: #834 MandyManners

Got it. Thanks.

876 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:17am

re: #849 realwest

jcm! What "dog poop poll troll"?

Troll last night popped in with his 3rd comment in 7 months, about abortion.

A couple comments later discussed his poll of people who left the dog poop behind instead of cleaning up.

Then took exception too being told the house rules.

Followed by a mighty whack from Stinky.

For some reason I found the whole thing humorous.

877 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #799 Killgore Trout

It will be interesting to see how this work out. It could go either way and is the possibility of intended consequences. There is the possibility that the Federal government is going to have to fund California's state services instead of the Californians.

that would be wrong...there is plenty of money for services, it's just foolishly spent otherwise...let em suffer

878 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:29am

re: #867 HoosierHoops

It was a fuck thread earlier..Then it morphed into a fucked up thread..
Then it came back from the edge...

I think it ended prematurely, myself.

879 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:41:37am

re: #870 tfc3rid

Glad to hear your news, my friend.

Hey how's your team going?
/ducking

880 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:19am

re: #834 MandyManners

but, but, but, MandyManners, why don't you organize them by putting them into folders? (I don't get it...)

881 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:29am

re: #859 irongrampa

"full unfettered access to war zones"?

Let them walk point.

The tip of the spear. Heh.

882 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:38am

re: #878 Ford_Prefect

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

TCM! "You Can't Take It With You" just ended...next? "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington"!

Fuck yes!

883 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:43am

re: #879 Nevergiveup

Hey how's your team going?
/ducking

They are the absolute worst 21-18 team I have ever seen...

My patience is running thin...

884 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:55am

re: #878 Ford_Prefect

I think it ended prematurely, myself.

Premature interjection?

885 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:56am

re: #853 midwestgak

yeah, that stuck in my mind because it was so funny. I could relate to you being so anxious and nervous to register that you screwed it up (which turn is really good at doing) ha

886 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:42:58am

re: #869 Ward Cleaver

I'll stay away from anyone named the "Radical Party". The Serbs hate us anyways, They tried to burn down our embassy a few years ago.

887 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:43:03am

re: #830 sattv4u2

re: #827 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


He's worn out 17 keyboards and is on his third set of fingers

Uh, it's 18 keyboards and four sets of fingers, but who's counting?!
And it's mostly cause I've been on LGF since December 3, 2003. Well that and I'm verbose!
BUT - check out how many comments Mandy has and she's been out here for only 3 years!

888 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:43:39am

re: #883 tfc3rid

They are the absolute worst 21-18 team I have ever seen...

My patience is running thin...

How come the Mets are not home during Fleet Week?

889 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:44:05am

re: #887 realwest

BUT - check out how many comments Mandy has and she's been out here for only 3 years

Yeah ,, but she's a WOMAN !


OUCH !

890 UFO TOFU  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:44:20am

OT but a good read:
Obsessive Housing Disorder

What principles, then, should govern federal policy toward homeownership and the housing construction market? First, our experience since the Great Depression teaches us that a rising economy is the best and safest way to boost homeownership. By some estimates, the “natural” rate of homeownership in America, without dicey government-enabled mortgages, would still be nearly 65 percent—among the highest rates in the world. Government’s most important role in the market should be to ensure a sturdy economy and a reliable judicial system that protects the interests of buyers and sellers in what is the largest transaction that most will ever undertake.

At the same time, government should do no harm, especially when it comes to the cost of housing. One reason politicians and policymakers continue to feel that they must subsidize mortgage rates and launch ownership campaigns is that since the 1970s, local housing and zoning regulations have raised the price of home construction—sometimes by hundreds of thousands of dollars, as economist Randall O’Toole has shown—and thereby reduced the supply of affordable housing. Half a century ago, America’s cities boasted a rich stock of affordable housing, even as their populations grew. Today, even shrinking cities often complain of a lack of it. One solution is for the federal government to tie aid to states to local regulatory reforms that reduce the cost of construction and encourage additional building.

891 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:44:33am
892 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:44:33am

re: #851 Irish Rose

{friend} We all made stupid choices at age 17. Hope you get a good rest tonight.

893 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:44:38am

re: #888 Nevergiveup

How come the Mets are not home during Fleet Week?

I think they figure Boston this weekend will be a better place to spread their brand of magic...

894 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #889 sattv4u2

BUT - check out how many comments Mandy has and she's been out here for only 3 years

Yeah ,, but she's a WOMAN !

OUCH !

From my brain to your keyboard. How did you do that?

895 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:45:00am

re: #831 zionblogHuh,
zionblog


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Karma: 3
Registered since: Aug 24, 2004 at 4:03 am
(Logged in)

No. of comments posted: 29
No. of links posted: 0

And you NOW wonder who cares about evolution - methinks I smell a LOOOONG time sleeper troll/moby there.

896 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:45:21am

re: #893 tfc3rid

I think they figure Boston this weekend will be a better place to spread their brand of magic...

I agree. Boston could use three more wins!

897 quickjustice  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:45:25am

Sorry to hear goddess flew the coop. She seemed a nice lady.

898 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:45:40am

re: #894 Ford_Prefect

From my brain to your keyboard. How did you do that?

You must've left your tinfoil hat in your other trenchcoat.

;)

899 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:45:43am

re: #886 Killgore Trout

I'll stay away from anyone named the "Radical Party". The Serbs hate us anyways, They tried to burn down our embassy a few years ago.

Biden may be a gaffetastic sonofabitch, but he's our gaffetastic sonofabitch.

900 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:02am

re: #891 Iron Fist

I found it interesting that this is the pres. of Columbia probably talking to a large number of journo majors... As if their education at CU is really meant to give them a true unbiased education...

901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:09am

re: #887 realwest

Real, don't know if you saw my earlier comment. My mom's cancer has come back. She gotta bust it up again! You'd think it learned the first time.

902 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:14am

re: #897 quickjustice

Sorry to hear goddess flew the coop. She seemed a nice lady.

I'll wait to hear it from her.

903 UFO TOFU  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:19am

re: #885 turn

I could relate to you being so anxious and nervous to register that you screwed it up


That is kind of funny.

904 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:22am

re: #887 realwest

Uh, it's 18 keyboards and four sets of fingers, but who's counting?!
And it's mostly cause I've been on LGF since December 3, 2003. Well that and I'm verbose!
BUT - check out how many comments Mandy has and she's been out here for only 3 years!

The Zionist conspiracy rewards its most loyal minions with comprehensive cyborg-prosthesis insurance.

/bwahahaha.

905 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:31am

re: #896 Ford_Prefect

I agree. Boston could use three more wins!

Oh trust me, they are going to get 3 easy wins...

906 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:38am

re: #835 realwest

I got my favorite bus driver back today. The bus company rotates their drivers unless they have seniority (then they can stay on a route if they choose to), but the new rotation landed him back on my route. I was very happy to see him this morning- I haven't seen him since just before Christmas.

907 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:52am

re: #905 tfc3rid

Oh trust me, they are going to get 3 easy wins...

Santana not pitching?

908 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:46:53am

re: #846 tfc3rid

""Crisis in journalsim a crisis in democracy" & laments "shallow opinion mongering" not to be taken lightly"


Try the basics who, what, where, when, why. Leave your opinions out of it.
Democracy will take care of itself.

"unlikely the lone blogger could have had the wearwithal" to do Pulitzer level work"


Pullet Surprise, NYT 1932, enough said about that.

""there will have to be new sources of funding" for press, lauds BBC, other govt supported news"


Pravda anyone? You think there's a crisis in democracy and what public funding? Get a fucking clue.


""Must see foreign press as our press too" talks censorship, calls 4 press 2 have "full unfettered" access 2 war zones"


Even state run press? Why? To give our troops position to the enemy?

909 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:47:05am

re: #897 quickjustice

Sorry to hear goddess flew the coop. She seemed a nice lady.

We don't know that for sure. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

910 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:47:15am

re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Real, don't know if you saw my earlier comment. My mom's cancer has come back. She gotta bust it up again! You'd think it learned the first time.

Prayers for you and your mom, FBV. I pray every day that June's cancer doesn't come back.

911 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:47:40am

re: #907 Nevergiveup

Santana not pitching?

Santana vs. Matsuzaka on Friday night... But the Mets offense is downright offensive...

912 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:47:43am

re: #898 OldLineTexan

You must've left your tinfoil hat in your other trenchcoat.

;)

You may be right. Let me look.

*Opens trench coat.

Damn. You're right. I think I left it in my pants pocket. I seem to have forgotten my pants, too.

913 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:47:56am

re: #909 VegasRick

We don't know that for sure. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

Same here. I want to be sure she wasn't nic-jacked.

914 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:47:59am

re: #846 tfc3rid
Hey my friend, nice landing!
And I reckon that he hasn't heard (cause he doesn't WANT to hear) how Charles virtually single handidly stopped the MSM - in the form of 60 Minutes trying to throw the 2004 election to Kerry with the TANG memos! RATHERGATE, you dumb shit!

915 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:11am
916 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:19am

re: #894 Ford_Prefect

From my brain to your keyboard. How did you do that?

Hell ,,, I don't even know how it gets from MY brain to my keyboard

917 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:38am

re: #888 Nevergiveup

How come the Mets are not home during Fleet Week?

For the good of our country. That strange choking disease they have might spread to the fleet!

918 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:52am

re: #911 tfc3rid

Santana vs. Matsuzaka on Friday night... But the Mets offense is downright offensive...

Curious to see Dice-K. Hope he can go more than 5 innings and 120 pitches.

919 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:53am

re: #857 tankascribe

I agree with everything you've said. Bay area there, I'm in sac. I found that interesting 28 down to 6 and still functioning. I said earlier here that the state could cut 1/3 of the workforce and probably see a jump in productivity because it would get people off their ass and make them work for their "employment".

920 badger1970  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:54am

re: #911 tfc3rid

Sanata's cold and Dice-K coming off the DL; should be enough offense for everyone.

921 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:48:56am

re: #897 quickjustice

Sorry to hear goddess flew the coop. She seemed a nice lady.

What do you mean? We don't know anything. Jimmah came in here, said he saw someone with her name posting on a anti-LGF site, and he was positive that it was her.

But there is absolutely NO proof of that. Only his assumption. And then some other Lizards started to questions if it may be her, and the next thing you know, people are making accusations like your comment above.

We don't know anything at this point. What the hell is going on here?

922 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:04am

re: #914 realwest

Bollinger is still looking for the mystery man who put that noose on that Prof's office door...

923 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:15am

re: #850 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - lunchtime? It's not even NOON Eastern time!
What time do y'all eat brekkie and dinner?!
:)

924 irongrampa  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:30am

re: #895 realwest

What on earth would make someone spend that amount of time registered to be a sleeper,or moby, or troll? What a strange mindset that evokes.

Better he/she just ups and speaks his/her mind, and take any flak for it.

925 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:32am

re: #918 Ford_Prefect

Curious to see Dice-K. Hope he can go more than 5 innings and 120 pitches.

Mets will oblige...

926 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:41am

Good morning, Lizards! Are we still having in-fighting between ID/Creationists and those anti? I hope the big tent isn't starting to tear. That would be a shame. There are real enemies out there.

927 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:44am

re: #897 quickjustice

Sorry to hear goddess flew the coop. She seemed a nice lady.

PREMATURE ,.....no proof, only anecdotal speculation

928 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #897 quickjustice

Bullshit.

929 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:49:56am

re: #920 badger1970

Sanata's cold and Dice-K coming off the DL; should be enough offense for everyone.

At least they aren't playing in Yankee stadium. Should keep the home run total down.

930 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:50:00am

re: #911 tfc3rid

Santana vs. Matsuzaka on Friday night... But the Mets offense is downright offensive...

Being a Yankee Fan, this is one time I am rooting for Shefield and the Mets.

931 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:50:08am
932 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:50:36am

re: #885 turn

You are a {sweet one}.

933 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:50:44am

re: #851 Irish RoseGeez, I'm sorry to hear that Irish Rose - 17 can be a VERY difficult year(s) to go through! I wish you the best of luck...................and I feel sorry for them weeds! LOL!

934 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:50:46am

re: #921 Walter L. Newton

This'll go on for a fucking week! Dammit!

935 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:50:56am

re: #929 Ford_Prefect

At least they aren't playing in Yankee stadium. Should keep the home run total down.

Yankees playing the Phillies in Home Run Derby at the Bandbox in the Boogey Down this weekend.

936 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:03am

re: #929 Ford_Prefect

At least they aren't playing in Yankee stadium. Should keep the home run total down.

Well when you pay that much for A ticket, you expect to get a ball after all?

937 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:11am

re: #923 realwest

Hey Hoops - lunchtime? It's not even NOON Eastern time!
What time do y'all eat brekkie and dinner?!
:)

That reminds me. I missed elevensies.

938 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:16am

re: #878 Ford_Prefect

I think it ended prematurely, myself.

No it was simply headed in the wrong erection.

939 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:17am

re: #932 midwestgak

You are a {sweet one}.

Dammit! I was being supportive too!

940 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:21am

re: #930 Nevergiveup

Being a Yankee Fan, this is one time I am rooting for Shefield and the Mets.

Depends on which lineup Jerry Mandope puts on the field.

941 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:22am

re: #930 Nevergiveup

Being a Yankee Fan, this is one time I am rooting for Shefield and the Mets.

Like Kissinger said re: Iran vs. Iraq - "Can't they both lose?"

942 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:28am
943 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:51:59am

re: #938 turn

No it was simply headed in the wrong erection.

Nice dicktion.

944 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:52:05am

re: #937 Ford_Prefect

That reminds me. I missed elevensies.

Don't tell him about second breakfasts.

945 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:52:09am

re: #935 tfc3rid

Yankees playing the Phillies in Home Run Derby at the Bandbox in the Boogey Down this weekend.

You mean neither team is home the weekend of Fleet Week? What genius made that schedule?

946 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:52:19am

re: #851 Irish Rose

I'm not in the greatest mood myself today, lizards. My youngest son (17) got into some trouble last night for letting someone talk him into making a really stupid choice, and I was dragged out of bed at 2am to deal with it.

I keep telling him that he's going to be judged by the company that he keeps. He never wants to hear it... hopefully, he's going to start hearing it now.

I'm heading out to the flower garden this afternoon, to work my frustration out on a patch of weeds.

I think it comes with the age. At 17 I had to explain to my parents how I broke my arm (riding on the hood of a car), got busted shoplifting (a mortal sin in my house) and was almost arrested but the scum bag I was hanging out with decided to hit the four cops who tackled us. I was merely removed from the premises while they beat him to a pulp.

You will hopefully laugh about this one day. Good luck. :)

947 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:52:45am

re: #940 tfc3rid

Depends on which lineup Jerry Mandope puts on the field.

Making Willie look good?

948 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:52:52am

re: #921 Walter L. Newton

What do you mean? We don't know anything. Jimmah came in here, said he saw someone with her name posting on a anti-LGF site, and he was positive that it was her.

But there is absolutely NO proof of that. Only his assumption. And then some other Lizards started to questions if it may be her, and the next thing you know, people are making accusations like your comment above.

We don't know anything at this point. What the hell is going on here?

And, just FYI, I'm getting down dinged up thread for similar comments as my comment above. Things are getting really weird.

949 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:52:53am

re: #945 Nevergiveup

You mean neither team is home the weekend of Fleet Week? What genius made that schedule?

Bandbox in the Boogey Down = Yankee Stadium...

950 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:53:11am

re: #864 haakondahl

Have you found somewhere to volunteer? They get some of your time and energy, you get some friends, and sometimes, a job. Mileage varies greatly, of course, but when your usual channels have dried up, it's a great way to make some new ones.


Absolutely a GREAT IDEA - not to mention all the folks that can be assisted with her help!

951 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:53:21am

re: #947 Nevergiveup

Making Willie look good?


Making me think that Manuel was pulling the strings when Willie was mgr.

952 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:53:51am

re: #941 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Like Kissinger said re: Iran vs. Iraq - "Can't they both lose?"

I just hope Big Papi finally hits one out. Much more of this and they may have to sit him long term.

953 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:04am

re: #949 tfc3rid

Bandbox in the Boogey Down = Yankee Stadium...

They are flying out that is for sure

954 jcm  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:08am

Gringrich uses the S word...

STEWART: ... So why the overall reaction on the Republican side, you know I'm hearing a lot of this is the most socialist and tyrannical...

NEWT: ... Let's parse the two words. I don't think this is a tyrannical administration, but it is the most socialistic administration in history, that's just a fact.

STEWART: In what sense?

NEWT: Well, like why don't we give the UAW 55% of Chrysler and rip off the Indiana school teacher pension fund.

STEWART: But this all started -- the AIG bailout and all that -- started under the other administration.

NEWT: Oh yeah, that's right. That's when Geithner was there, back before we had real change.

STEWART: Oh, come on that's har.... are you blaming the bailouts on Geithner?

NEWT: No, I'm just saying he was one of the three guys in the room.

STEWART: But he wasn't the president.

NEWT: He's now one of the two guys in the room.

STEWART: So wait a minute, but in terms of this being the most socialist administration....

NEWT: By socialistic you mean [sic, I mean], the other day there was a headline government to tell banks what they can pay their employees even if they're not taking federal money.

STEWART: But this is...

NEWT: I'm not using it as a pejorative...

STEWART: Wait... WOAH, you're using socialism as an adjective?

NEWT: No, I'm using it as a descriptor. The control of the economy by the government. What term do you want to use for taking over AIG, Citibank....

955 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:11am

re: #952 Ford_Prefect

I just hope Big Papi finally hits one out. Much more of this and they may have to sit him long term.

Off the roids/HGH?

956 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:16am

re: #948 Walter L. Newton

And, just FYI, I'm getting down dinged up thread for similar comments as my comment above. Things are getting really weird.

What asshole is doing that?

957 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:18am

re: #943 Ford_Prefect

Nice dicktion.

A penis pun thread? That's a vas deferens from all the other pun threads we've had recently.

958 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:19am

re: #851 Irish Rose

I'm not in the greatest mood myself today, lizards. My youngest son (17) got into some trouble last night for letting someone talk him into making a really stupid choice, and I was dragged out of bed at 2am to deal with it.

I keep telling him that he's going to be judged by the company that he keeps. He never wants to hear it... hopefully, he's going to start hearing it now.

I'm heading out to the flower garden this afternoon, to work my frustration out on a patch of weeds.

My mother built rock walls. (But not for me. I was the one that didn't give her any trouble.)

959 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:22am
960 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:54:30am

re: #953 Nevergiveup

They are flying out that is for sure

It's embarrasing...

961 haakondahl  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:01am

re: #798 Iron Fist

Yeah, the tide may finally be turning in our favor. I was floored by the 9th Circuit decision a couple of weeks ago. The 9th is the most liberal circuit in the country. If they see no alternative to incorporating the Second Amendment under the 14th and, thus, applying it to the States, then I will be shocked if the other Circuit courts don't follow suit and do the same.

There's still a lot of work to do. I want to see Volkner-McClure, the '68 GCA, and the '34 NFA tossed. I don't see how these massive infringements on my civil rights can survive if the Court uses the "Strict Scrutinity" standards like it does for other civil rights. If the Feds (and States) want to be in the gun control business, then they have a Constitution to go amend. Good luck with that.

Want to worry some more? Other whacked-out courts will pick up the lefty slack if the 9th Circuit starts coming to its senses. They've been lurking, and will "de-lurk" when their points are no longer being made for them. Especially with normal bureaucratic career pressures for the next, oh, several years.

962 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:20am

re: #948 Walter L. Newton

And, just FYI, I'm getting down dinged up thread for similar comments as my comment above. Things are getting really weird.

No idea why. I agree with using caution before accusing anyone of anything. Innocent until proven guilty. I think it is best to let Charles make that call. He has her email address, and can ask her.

963 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:25am

re: #866 Baier
Y'all might want to check out my #393 above and more importantly my #895!

964 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:26am

re: #960 tfc3rid

It's embarrasing...

I think so. Damon is gonna hit 40 this year

965 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:42am

re: #945 Nevergiveup

You mean neither team is home the weekend of Fleet Week? What genius made that schedule?

Phillies are playing @ NY this weekend IRRC

966 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:50am

Looks like Tax Cheat Timmy is speaking. Get ready for the market to tank.

967 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:55:55am

re: #954 jcm

There was one news bit a couple months ago where Stewart patched together all the "uh" and "awkward silence" moments in an Obama press conference into one reply.

/don't see that very often.

968 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:56:05am

re: #941 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Like Kissinger said re: Iran vs. Iraq - "Can't they both lose?"

* * * * *
Wasn't Kissinger's statement more "It's a Schande they can't both lose!"? (Anyone see decrepit Dr. Kissinger interviewed by Greta Van Susteren about Kissinger's meeting with Pres. Obama last night?
I also thought I saw former Secretary of State George Schultz sitting next to Pres. Obama)
Nixon & Reagan's team back in the White House! Bwahahaha

969 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:56:08am

re: #957 MrSilverDragon

A penis pun thread? That's a vas deferens from all the other pun threads we've had recently.

I am always looking for a way to get a head.

970 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:56:08am

re: #944 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Don't tell him about second breakfasts.

I don't think he knows about second breakfast!

/

971 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:56:41am

re: #964 Nevergiveup

I think so. Damon is gonna hit 40 this year

It's a paradise for LH batters...

Makes me very thankful for having Citi Field be fair... Mets have hit 0 HR's on present road trip and hit a ton on their recent homestand at Citi... So I don't want to hear that Citi is too big...

972 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:56:47am

re: #965 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Phillies are playing @ NY this weekend IRRC

Right OK. It is at Yankee Stadium. Good.

973 Ben Hur  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:56:47am

She's a brick......house.

974 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:57:11am

re: #965 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Phillies are playing @ NY this weekend IRRC

I'm wishing a hole will open up and swallow both teams...

975 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:57:25am

re: #872 turn
Yeah, we used to try to avoid that sorta language when Charles informed us, years ago, that some younger kids read LGF while their parent(s) were on LGF.
I did my best at cleaning up my act and am still working on it!

976 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:57:30am

re: #973 Ben Hur

She's a brick......house.

FIRE!

977 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:57:31am

re: #966 Ward Cleaver

Looks like Tax Cheat Timmy is speaking. Get ready for the market to tank.

Market no likey Timmy.

978 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:57:49am

re: #966 Ward Cleaver

Looks like Tax Cheat Timmy is speaking. Get ready for the market to tank.

He was the only man for the job... America needed him, regardless of his crimes...

/

979 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:57:55am

re: #973 Ben Hur

She's a brick......house.

Mighty, mighty, just letting it all hang out.

980 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:07am

re: #955 tfc3rid

Off the roids/HGH?

No. Not Papi. I think his style of hitting and his body style just tends to lead to short careers, and maybe his is coming to it's end.

981 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:29am

re: #903 UFO TOFU

Yes it stuck in my mind, just like your nic is the name of some album. The band's name escapes me at the moment.

982 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:41am

re: #980 Ford_Prefect

No. Not Papi. I think his style of hitting and his body style just tends to lead to short careers, and maybe his is coming to it's end.

When big guys go they tend to go fast.

983 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:41am

re: #874 NJDhockeyfan
Great comment and Link and I'd sure like to know which Senators didn't sign it either AND when are they up for re-election!

984 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:46am

re: #959 buzzsawmonkey

This one... re: #705 Walter L. Newton

985 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:52am

re: #954 jcm

Gringrich uses the S word...

Somebody's gotta take on the fake newsman.

986 tfc3rid  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:58:52am

re: #980 Ford_Prefect

No. Not Papi. I think his style of hitting and his body style just tends to lead to short careers, and maybe his is coming to it's end.

Mo Vaughn-like? Well then, deal him to my Mets. We like older, larger-build first basemen.

987 SummerSong  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:00am

re: #851 Irish Rose

I'm not in the greatest mood myself today, lizards. My youngest son (17) got into some trouble last night for letting someone talk him into making a really stupid choice, and I was dragged out of bed at 2am to deal with it.

I keep telling him that he's going to be judged by the company that he keeps. He never wants to hear it... hopefully, he's going to start hearing it now.

I'm heading out to the flower garden this afternoon, to work my frustration out on a patch of weeds.


Even good kids make mistakes. Mine did too, at that age. They eventually calm down and mature. Hang in there.

988 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:02am

re: #974 tfc3rid

I'm wishing a hole will open up and swallow both teams...

New York is solid bedrock, that ain't gonna happen. Now if Steinbrenner had relocated to Jersey & built the new stadium on a landfill...

989 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:05am
990 Ben Hur  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:08am

Haven't able to post for a few days.

I assume the Sri Lanka victoire over the Tamil Tigers has been discussed heavily?

991 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:33am

The mainstreaming of 9-11 Truth....
Ventura enrolls Fox & Friends in waterboarding ’school’

992 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:39am

re: #976 VegasRick

FIRE!

* * *
I loved Earth Wind & Fire.

993 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:43am

re: #978 tfc3rid

He was the only man for the job... America needed him, regardless of his crimes...

"He makes the rules and he intends to keep it thataway.
What's good for General Bullmoose;
Is good for the USA!"

-Lil' Abner.

994 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:51am

re: #973 Ben Hur

That's a fact, ain't holdin nothin' back.

995 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 8:59:57am

re: #975 realwest

Yeah, we used to try to avoid that sorta language when Charles informed us, years ago, that some younger kids read LGF while their parent(s) were on LGF.
I did my best at cleaning up my act and am still working on it!

btw...you turned me on to imeem...the best site out there so far as I know...what a delight, thanks for that

996 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:05am

re: #984 Walter L. Newton

This one... re: #705 Walter L. Newton

Not that one. No dings up or down.

997 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:09am

re: #984 Walter L. Newton

It's gone.

998 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:12am

re: #988 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

New York is solid bedrock, that ain't gonna happen. Now if Steinbrenner had relocated to Jersey & built the new stadium on a landfill...

One can always hope for a new rift zone to open up.

999 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:16am

re: #992 alegrias

* * *
I loved Earth Wind & Fire.

Ah, high school days.

1000 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:18am

re: #906 Sharmuta

Why your favorite, is the guy a hottie or something?

1001 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:25am

As Binyamin Netanyahu returned to Israel from Washington late Wednesday afternoon, an aide to the prime minister said that media focus on the idea of a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict was "childish and stupid."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I think it is childish and stupid also but what's his name in the White House doesn't?

1002 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:38am

re: #984 Walter L. Newton

This one... re: #705 Walter L. Newton

Which refers to 673 where I was down dinged for suggesting that we try to get proof before jumping to conclusions.

1003 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:00:53am

re: #992 alegrias

I loved Earth Wind & Fire.

EWF is good, but Ben Hur is quoting the Commodores.

1004 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:01:05am

re: #982 Nevergiveup

When big guys go they tend to go fast.

Exactly. When you have such a big swing it doesn't take much to lose the timing, and I think that is what is happening. It's too bad. He has been fun to watch. I actually got to see him play Double A ball for the local affiliate of the Twins organization. He was definately a fan favorite even then.

1005 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:01:13am

re: #996 VegasRick

Not that one. No dings up or down.

re: #997 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's gone.

See 673

1006 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:01:14am

re: #877 albusteve

that would be wrong...there is plenty of money for services, it's just foolishly spent otherwise...let em suffer

Good morning!

I heard a brief comment from a guy who used to be a BIG league Dem pollster saying on Fox and Friends this morning that something like 3,000 adults are moving out of California EVERY SINGLE DAY - and obviously taking their families with them. Geez, 3,000 A DAY!

1007 SummerSong  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:01:25am

re: #975 realwest

Yeah, we used to try to avoid that sorta language when Charles informed us, years ago, that some younger kids read LGF while their parent(s) were on LGF.
I did my best at cleaning up my act and am still working on it!

You know why I don't spell out the F word here? It's because I've never seen Charles do it. I take my cues from the owner. Simple.

1008 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:01:36am

re: #992 alegrias

* * *
I loved Earth Wind & Fire.

Ohio Players.

1009 J.S.  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:01:54am

re: #1002 Walter L. Newton

I fixed it...

1010 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:02:10am

re: #977 Honorary Yooper

Market no likey Timmy.

* * * *
Saturday Night Live spoofed Geithner mercilessly recently.

But oddly, last weekend SNL didn't touch Nancy Pelosi's comic news conference, that I know of.

SNL attacked Dick Cheney & former Pres. Bush instead.

1011 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:02:19am

re: #1004 Ford_Prefect

Exactly. When you have such a big swing it doesn't take much to lose the timing, and I think that is what is happening. It's too bad. He has been fun to watch. I actually got to see him play Double A ball for the local affiliate of the Twins organization. He was definately a fan favorite even then.

From afar he seems like a nice guy. And for all he has done for the Red Sox, your gonna have to give him the whole year also.

1012 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:02:52am

re: #1006 realwest

Good morning!

I heard a brief comment from a guy who used to be a BIG league Dem pollster saying on Fox and Friends this morning that something like 3,000 adults are moving out of California EVERY SINGLE DAY - and obviously taking their families with them. Geez, 3,000 A DAY!

Rats fleeing a sinking ship?

1013 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:14am

re: #932 midwestgak

Hey gal, I got an idea to keep your mind off your problems. Why don't you go find a nice avatar that makes you happy and post it here?

1014 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:19am

re: #1006 realwest

Good morning!

I heard a brief comment from a guy who used to be a BIG league Dem pollster saying on Fox and Friends this morning that something like 3,000 adults are moving out of California EVERY SINGLE DAY - and obviously taking their families with them. Geez, 3,000 A DAY!

That's the pattern. Liberals screw up a nice place like California or Massachusetts, can't live under the policies they enact, then move to neighboring states like Colorado & New Hampshire & start the process anew.

1015 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:25am

re: #892 midwestgak
Hey {gak} whaddya mean "we"? I got started early at 15!

1016 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:26am

My favorite Satchmo anecdote: Someone came up to Louis and said, "Hey! Did you know that there's a new trumpet player in town, and people say he's better than you?"
"What's his name?", said Armstrong.
"Well, I don't rightly remember his name."
"Well, if he blows better than me, his name better be Gabriel!"

1017 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:31am

re: #1000 turn

Why your favorite, is the guy a hottie or something?

No! Sharmie don't roll like that, yo. Beauty comes from within.

He's a nice guy- we enjoy talking about stuff. He drops me off a little ways away from the marked bus stop because that way I'm closer to my destination. Just an all around nice guy.

1018 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:32am

re: #1011 Nevergiveup

From afar he seems like a nice guy. And for all he has done for the Red Sox, your gonna have to give him the whole year also.

More than likely that will happen. They might have to move him down in the order, though. If he were getting hits, just not home runs it would be one thing, but right now he is batting like .205 or something.

1019 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:34am

re: #1007 SummerSong

You know why I don't spell out the F word here? It's because I've never seen Charles do it. I take my cues from the owner. Simple.

Well that is the classy thing to do. Now in my case, I have no class, so why bother?

1020 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:03:42am

re: #1001 Nevergiveup

As Binyamin Netanyahu returned to Israel from Washington late Wednesday afternoon, an aide to the prime minister said that media focus on the idea of a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict was "childish and stupid."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I think it is childish and stupid also but what's his name in the White House doesn't?

told you so!...Bibi won't fuck around with BO...he took a hit for what he said the other day at the WH but that was just rinky dink manners

1021 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:04:13am

I'm looking forward to Terry Teachout's new biography of Armstrong.

1022 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:04:27am

re: #1008 VegasRick

Ohio Players.

That's a Sweet, Sticky Thing.

1023 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:04:36am

Right wing extremist watch.....
Far-right violence on the rise in Germany

Crimes by right-wing extremists jumped 16 percent to 20,422 last year, according to the yearly report published by Germany's Interior Ministry. It also concluded there were nearly 900 reports of injuries caused by right-wing violence in 2008, while the number of neo-Nazis rose to about 4,800.

"The number of neo-Nazis, and this is alarming, has risen again," Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble announced during a press conference held to coincide with the report's release.

Violent incidents were the highest in eastern Germany, when population differences were taken into account. A separate survey carried out by the Friedrich Ebert Institute last year found that one in three people in former East Germany are openly prejudiced against foreigners.

1024 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:04:44am

re: #897 quickjustice
Huh - Goddess flew the coop? She left or was banned?
Who's gonna be the Keeper of The List?!

1025 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:04:50am

re: #1009 J.S.

I fixed it...

I know, and thanks. I guess Sharmuta is right, you have to be cynical.

1026 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:05:13am
1027 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:05:37am

re: #1024 realwest

Huh - Goddess flew the coop? She left or was banned?
Who's gonna be the Keeper of The List?!

Nothing has been confirmed yet, real.

1028 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:00am

re: #901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Shit - that's not good news. I hope and pray she kicks it's ass again FBV, is it the same cancer or a different type?

1029 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:16am

re: #1006 realwest

Good morning!

I heard a brief comment from a guy who used to be a BIG league Dem pollster saying on Fox and Friends this morning that something like 3,000 adults are moving out of California EVERY SINGLE DAY - and obviously taking their families with them. Geez, 3,000 A DAY!

yes, and many come to the ABQ area....jury is still out on that one...Rio Rancho is a far different place in character than Albuwuerque because of all the loony Yew Norkers ans people from CA...I can't stand it up there

1030 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:20am

re: #1022 Honorary Yooper

That's a Sweet, Sticky Thing.

1031 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:26am

re: #943 Ford_Prefect

Nice dicktion.

You say that with such ejaculation, thanks.

1032 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:27am
1033 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:30am

re: #723 MandyManners

I've not seen it. But, I don't recall you ever had a run in with the banned leader of that rabid pack.

I try to avoid controversy.

1034 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:06:45am

Fucking A. And B and C and the whole fucking alphabet, Walter.

If I take my ding away will you quit fucking bitching? I didn't like your hyperbole, but whatever. Keep shooting the messenger. He did nothing wrong.

1035 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:07:42am

re: #906 Sharmuta

I got my favorite bus driver back today. The bus company rotates their drivers unless they have seniority (then they can stay on a route if they choose to), but the new rotation landed him back on my route. I was very happy to see him this morning- I haven't seen him since just before Christmas.

That is good news - how long do you figure he'll be back on your route and what makes him such a great bus driver?

1036 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:07:50am

re: #806 Ford_Prefect

You would be amazed at how many people can't see in a straight line, never mind walk in one. Had a client one time that wanted the corners of her square lot pinned. I set the pins and then showed her where there were. There was a nice clean line of site from one front corner to the corresponding back corner. We stood on one and looked at the other and she said "So where does the line go from here?" I said, "It goes straight from here to that pin there." She looked at it and said "I don't know what you mean."


I'd be amazed except my husband has had people in their apprenticeship program who have to be shown how to a) use a measuring tape, b) read a measuring tape, c) estimate square footage, and d) use an adjustable wrench!

1037 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:07:58am

re: #1031 turn

You say that with such ejaculation, thanks.

Cum on. It wasn't that hard.

1038 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:08:15am

re: #1023 Killgore Trout

it's coming and it cannot be stopped...imo

1039 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:08:33am

re: #1034 Sharmuta

Fucking A. And B and C and the whole fucking alphabet, Walter.

If I take my ding away will you quit fucking bitching? I didn't like your hyperbole, but whatever. Keep shooting the messenger. He did nothing wrong.

Bitching. I'm protecting a long time Lizard from unproven accusations. I can't believe you are calling that hyperbole. You down dinged me for asking for caution.

I don't care about the ding itself, I care about what it says.

Unbelievable.

1040 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:08:58am

A Genetic Clue to Why Autism Affects Boys More

Among the many mysteries that befuddle autism researchers: why the disorder affects boys four times more often than girls. But in new findings reported online today by the journal Molecular Psychiatry, researchers say they have found a genetic clue that may help explain the disparity.

The newly discovered autism-risk gene, identified by authors as CACNA1G, is more common in boys than in girls (why that's so is still not clear), and the authors suggest it plays a role in boys' increased risk of the developmental disorder. CACNA1G, which sits on chromosome 17, amid other genes that have been previously linked to autism, is responsible for regulating the flow of calcium into and out of cells. Nerve cells in the brain rely on calcium to become activated, and research suggests that imbalances in the mineral can result in the overstimulation of neural connections and create developmental problems, such as autism and even epilepsy, which is also a common feature of autism.

1041 Ben Hur  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:09:19am

re: #1037 Ford_Prefect

Cum on. It wasn't that hard.

I'm glad I've hung around long enough for the puns to start.

1042 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:09:26am

re: #921 Walter L. Newton

We don't know anything at this point. What the hell is going on here?

I have been reading all of the comments about goddess. I haven't a clue about other sites. Other sites interest me little, so I don't explore them.

LGF is a place to come to dialog, not gossip.

1043 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:09:39am

re: #946 Creeping Eruption

I think it comes with the age. At 17 I had to explain to my parents how I broke my arm (riding on the hood of a car), got busted shoplifting (a mortal sin in my house) and was almost arrested but the scum bag I was hanging out with decided to hit the four cops who tackled us. I was merely removed from the premises while they beat him to a pulp.

You will hopefully laugh about this one day. Good luck. :)

re: #892 midwestgak

{friend} We all made stupid choices at age 17. Hope you get a good rest tonight.

Thanks.

He was with a group of high school friends last night and the driver (19) was driving people home before dropping my son and his friend off to his parents' house for an overnight.

They decided to stop for a bit at the local cemetary, which of course is one of the favorite local teenage hangouts. One of the older kids opens the trunk (it's dads' car), and they find a bottle of apple vodka. My son says it looks interesting and he wants a taste of it.. he takes two small swallows, and it grosses him out. They put the bottle back in dad's trunk after laughing their asses off, and after shooting the shit for a few more minutes they climb in the car and head home.

The stupid kid driving the car then decides on a whim that he wants to take a joyride with Dads' car. He ramps it up to 75 in a 45, and all the kids in the car are terrified and begging him to slow down. A cop pulls him over of course, and decides to give all of the teens in the van a breathalyzer. My son in the back seat is the only one with alchohol on his breath from the two swallows, and comes in at .056.

End result: a 1st offense MIP.

Ugh.

1044 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:09:41am

re: #1029 albusteve

yes, and many come to the ABQ area....jury is still out on that one...Rio Rancho is a far different place in character than Albuwuerque because of all the loony Yew Norkers ans people from CA...I can't stand it up there

The first time I set foot in CA a friend of mine told me a joke. "How is CA like a bowl of Grape-nuts? You take out all of the fruits and nuts and you're left with a bunch of fucking flakes".

1045 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:09:59am

re: #1036 tankascribe

I'd be amazed except my husband has had people in their apprenticeship program who have to be shown how to a) use a measuring tape, b) read a measuring tape, c) estimate square footage, and d) use an adjustable wrench!

You know, I was just thinking. It would be interesting one day to get people talking about what they do for a living and telling some of the more interesting stories that they have about the profession. Probably too late in this thread for that, but I would like to see that some time.

1046 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:15am

re: #1042 midwestgak

We don't know anything at this point. What the hell is going on here?

I have been reading all of the comments about goddess. I haven't a clue about other sites. Other sites interest me little, so I don't explore them.

LGF is a place to come to dialog, not gossip.

it sounds like a cheezy soap opera

1047 John Neverbend  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:18am

re: #1020 albusteve

told you so!...Bibi won't fuck around with BO...he took a hit for what he said the other day at the WH but that was just rinky dink manners

Here's Mark Steyn's take on the meeting. [Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

1048 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:27am

re: #921 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter - good morning to you - and you're 100% right, besides which, even if Goddess wanted to take a break, she would NEVER post on an anti-LGF site and she'd come out here and tell US.
I hate fucking rumors.

1049 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:34am

re: #1017 Sharmuta

Cool

1050 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:37am

re: #1041 Ben Hur

I'm glad I've hung around long enough for the puns to start.

Some people don't have the balls for that.

1051 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:40am

re: #1042 midwestgak

We don't know anything at this point. What the hell is going on here?

I have been reading all of the comments about goddess. I haven't a clue about other sites. Other sites interest me little, so I don't explore them.

LGF is a place to come to dialog, not gossip.

That's what I have been saying all morning. Did you read my comments? I have been suggesting caution in numerous posts and I got down dinged for that.

1052 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:44am

re: #1042 midwestgak

We don't know anything at this point. What the hell is going on here?

I have been reading all of the comments about goddess. I haven't a clue about other sites. Other sites interest me little, so I don't explore them.

LGF is a place to come to dialog, not gossip.


Well maybe a little gossip?

1053 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:10:55am

re: #1041 Ben Hur

I'm glad I've hung around long enough for the puns to start.

Oh we have been jerking them around for a while.

1054 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:11:38am

re: #1043 Irish Rose

Thanks.

He was with a group of high school friends last night and the driver (19) was driving people home before dropping my son and his friend off to his parents' house for an overnight.

They decided to stop for a bit at the local cemetary, which of course is one of the favorite local teenage hangouts. One of the older kids opens the trunk (it's dads' car), and they find a bottle of apple vodka. My son says it looks interesting and he wants a taste of it.. he takes two small swallows, and it grosses him out. They put the bottle back in dad's trunk after laughing their asses off, and after shooting the shit for a few more minutes they climb in the car and head home.

The stupid kid driving the car then decides on a whim that he wants to take a joyride with Dads' car. He ramps it up to 75 in a 45, and all the kids in the car are terrified and begging him to slow down. A cop pulls him over of course, and decides to give all of the teens in the van a breathalyzer. My son in the back seat is the only one with alchohol on his breath from the two swallows, and comes in at .056.

End result: a 1st offense MIP.

Ugh.

Sounds like your kid has a pretty good head on his shoulders. I would have downed half the bottle and would have been puking down the side of the car when the cop pulled us over. What happens after that? God only knows.

1055 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:11:49am

Choosing bailout recipients by race sounds illegal to me.
Democrats seek financial rescue of minority-owned broadcasters

1056 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:12:00am

re: #1028 realwest

Same thing. Responded very well to chemo last time, and she lost her hair, but did not get sick.

1057 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:12:29am

re: #1037 Ford_Prefect

Cum on. It wasn't that hard.

Wad you mean, it took some thought.

1058 CynicalConservative  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:12:45am

re: #1055 CommonCents

Choosing bailout recipients by race sounds illegal to me.
Democrats seek financial rescue of minority-owned broadcasters

It's only illegal if you have an (R) next to your name.

1059 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:13:20am

re: #1058 CynicalConservative

It's only illegal if you have an (R) next to your name.

Who says justice is blind?

1060 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:13:21am

re: #1041 Ben Hur

I'm glad I've hung around long enough for the puns to start.


You're having a ball with that?

1061 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:13:33am

re: #1034 Sharmuta

re: #1039 Walter L. Newton

To be honest, I noticed the nic over there last week, but given their propensity for nic-jacking, I ignored it. Let's let Charles make the final call on this. Otherwise, let's knock it off with the bickering over this issue. There's far more important stuff from ID to neo-Nazis to Obama to Iran to worry about.

1062 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:13:36am

re: #1038 albusteve

it's coming and it cannot be stopped...imo

Hey are you on this penis thread too?
/

1063 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:13:49am

re: #1044 VegasRick

The first time I set foot in CA a friend of mine told me a joke. "How is CA like a bowl of Grape-nuts? You take out all of the fruits and nuts and you're left with a bunch of fucking flakes".

old ABQ is very unpretentious and people are just nonjudgemental about stuff...very laid back...ten miles up the river the cops are mean, people are far more aggressive with their driving, less friendly etc....you may think I'm kidding but I'm not...there really is a difference and that's where the CA people flock to...a whole nother feel to the place

1064 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:13:59am

re: #1057 turn

Wad you mean, it took some thought.

Which head were you thinking with?

1065 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:14:34am

re: #1055 CommonCents

Choosing bailout recipients by race sounds illegal to me.
Democrats seek financial rescue of minority-owned broadcasters

It's the age of obama, 3 years, 8 months to go.

1066 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:14:52am

re: #1047 John Neverbend

Here's Mark Steyn's take on the meeting. [Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

* * * *
Thank you for that link to Mark Steyn's blog thread. When I saw Pres. Obama's condescending comments with P.M. Netanyahu sitting there like a penitent wringing his hands before Father Confessor Obama, I wanted to barf.

1067 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:14:54am

He is a good kid, just makes dumb choices sometimes.
I did too... my parents never knew about half the shit I did at the age of 17.

1068 quickjustice  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:15:07am

re: #921 Walter L. Newton

"Accusations"? Back off, Walter! I like her.

1069 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:15:35am

re: #1067 Irish Rose

My parents knew half. The good half.

1070 Buck  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:15:41am

re: #720 NJDhockeyfan

Biden feelin' the love in Serbia...

'Go home Nazi scum,' Serb hardliners tell Biden

Isn't that news? I mean shouldn't that be on CNN etc?

1071 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:15:42am

re: #1067 Irish Rose

He is a good kid, just makes dumb choices sometimes.
I did too... my parents never knew about half the shit I did at the age of 17.

It's fun when you get older and joke with your parents about all the stuff they would have killed your over but never found out.

1072 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:15:53am

re: #1047 John Neverbend

Here's Mark Steyn's take on the meeting. [Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

yepper..."attitudes rather than policies"

1073 laZardo  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:03am

Headin to bed. Cheers.

1074 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:19am

re: #1068 quickjustice

"Accusations"? Back off, Walter! I like her.

And so do I and I have been standing up for her all morning. This is getting sick.

1075 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:37am

Gonna watch "Mr. Smith...."

1076 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:48am

re: #942 buzzsawmonkey
Morning buzz! I just e-mailed Goddess and asked her about it.
I strongly suspect a nic-jacking here. She doesn't post very often during the week (at least when I'm on LGF) and that may be why she hasn't been around but I can't BELEIVE she'd post at an LGF HATE SITE.

1077 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:54am

re: #1064 Ford_Prefect

Which head were you thinking with?

[I was putting my hands in my pockets, and...] feeling a little cocky?

1078 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:56am

re: #1051 Walter L. Newton

Yes, read your comments all morning long. Good job. Some just don't listen.

1079 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:16:56am

re: #1062 turn

Hey are you on this penis thread too?
/

no

1080 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:17:00am

re: #1075 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gonna watch "Mr. Smith...."

I prefer watching Mrs. Smith myself.

1081 John Neverbend  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:17:08am

re: #1066 alegrias

* * * *
Thank you for that link to Mark Steyn's blog thread. When I saw Pres. Obama's condescending comments with P.M. Netanyahu sitting there like a penitent wringing his hands before Father Confessor Obama, I wanted to barf.

This was Bibi's opportunity to get the measure of Obama on the Middle East. It comes to a few attometres.

1082 tokyobk  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:17:43am

Charles, I thought you might appreciate this quote from Seneca:

'This is the difference between us Romans and the Etruscans. 'We believe that lightning is caused by clouds colliding, whereas they believe that clouds collide in order to create lightning. Since they attribute everything to gods, they are led to believe not that events have a meaning because they have happened, but that they happen in order to express a meaning.''

1083 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:18:04am

re: #1071 CommonCents

It's fun when you get older and joke with your parents about all the stuff they would have killed your over but never found out.

There are things I've done in my younger years which my parents will never know I've done. Ever. And, I believe it's much, much better that way.

1084 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:18:42am

re: #1078 midwestgak

Yes, read your comments all morning long. Good job. Some just don't listen.

Thanks. I haven't once accused goddess of anything. And I don't understand why some people here are now accusing me of that, and I am getting down dinged for standing up for her.

I can hear the twilight zone music...

1085 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:18:49am

re: #1078 midwestgak

Yes, read your comments all morning long. Good job. Some just don't listen.

did you read mine?....obviously not

1086 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:18:55am

re: #1043 Irish Rose

Sorry about that rose, btw turnspawn was able to get his 0.09 rap reduced to a reckless driving charge, $1000 for the attorney and $1000 fine plus he kept his license. Good news. Don't be too hard on the kid, ok? Knowing you he is probably beating him self up enough already.

1087 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:19:17am
1088 Ben Hur  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:19:37am

Any word on how many car dealerships that were shut down by The One were minority owned?

1089 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:19:38am

re: #1083 MrSilverDragon

There are things I've done in my younger years which my parents will never know I've done. Ever. And, I believe it's much, much better that way.

Well my dad passed away and if i tell my Mother something today, she'll forget it by tomorrow so?

1090 srb1976  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:20:08am

re: #1071 CommonCents

It's fun when you get older and joke with your parents about all the stuff they would have killed your over but never found out.

Even more fun when you find out that they knew all along.......

1091 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:20:34am

re: #948 Walter L. Newton
Huh, I just checked a bunch of your comments Walter in the 600 range and all I see are updings?
Who is it that's downdinging you?

1092 VegasRick  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:21:14am

re: #1077 Golem Akbar

[I was putting my hands in my pockets, and...] feeling a little cocky?

TMI?
/

1093 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:21:16am

re: #1088 Ben Hur

Any word on how many car dealerships that were shut down by The One were minority owned?


Good question! I'd like to know, too.

1094 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:22:09am

Left-Wing Hack Joe Klein Says...That Krauthammer Fellow Wouldn't Be So Conservative If He Could Walk
—DrewM.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Liberals are all heart?

1095 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:22:27am

re: #1091 realwest

I removed my ding (I didn't like Walter's choice of words) in the hopes he would quit bitching about it, but if he'd like to continue discussing this gotc matter (which he said he wanted to drop) I could go add it back.

1096 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:22:56am

re: #1091 realwest

Huh, I just checked a bunch of your comments Walter in the 600 range and all I see are updings?
Who is it that's downdinging you?

Number 673 was down dinged by Sharmuta, now it's gone. JS can confirm that it was down dinged.

I off the subject now.

1097 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:23:20am

You know what- I apologize for #1095.

Charles doesn't need this shit.

1098 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:23:31am

re: #1092 VegasRick

TMI?
/


/It was a cold day! [shrinkage]

1099 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:23:34am

re: #1083 MrSilverDragon


It's fun when you get older and joke with your parents about all the stuff they would have killed your over but never found out.

There are things I've done in my younger years which my parents will never know I've done. Ever. And, I believe it's much, much better that way.

I stand corrected. You're right, one cannot joke about "all" the stuff.

1100 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:23:35am

re: #1094 Nevergiveup

Left-Wing Hack Joe Klein Says...That Krauthammer Fellow Wouldn't Be So Conservative If He Could Walk
—DrewM.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Liberals are all heart?

* * * *
What a F'n Asshole--Charles Krauthammer WAS a democrat who worked in Carter's administration back in the day.

Joe Klein deserves to ....break his own neck.

1101 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:23:58am

re: #1093 Golem Akbar

Good question! I'd like to know, too.

I don't think it really matters. the problem is that any of them are being forced to shut down. Like any other business they should do their best to survive and those that can't will close. From what I hear there are profitable dealerships that are being shut down with no recourse. Just wrong.

1102 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:24:19am

Jaysus Christ, would you people knock it the hell off?
Sorry, I'm not in the best mood today and I didn't come here for this.

Just WAIT, wouldja?

1103 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:24:29am

re: #1099 CommonCents

I stand corrected. You're right, one cannot joke about "all" the stuff.

* * * *
Teen pregnancies for example. Not funny for anyone.

1104 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:24:51am

re: #1084 Walter L. Newton

I can hear the twilight zone music...

du du du du du du du du. Thanks! gave me a laugh.

1105 Ben Hur  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:25:01am

re: #1093 Golem Akbar

Good question! I'd like to know, too.

I'm asking because I heard a report yesterday that it was done with no rhyme or reason.

Not by any standard or "the lowest 25% in sales" etc...

1106 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:25:06am
1107 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:25:17am

re: #1084 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. I haven't once accused goddess of anything. And I don't understand why some people here are now accusing me of that, and I am getting down dinged for standing up for her.

I can hear the twilight zone music...

For what it's worth, I have your back, Walter. I know it wasn't you questioning Goddesses "loyalty"

1108 sattv4u2  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:25:27am

BBIAB

1109 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:25:39am

re: #989 Iron Fist
"I was totally unlike my sedate and diplomatic self today. Of course, I had hair then, and no tattoos..."
ROFL!
Hey Bro' - why don't you get some "hair" tatooed on your head?
/ducks and runs for cover -really fast too!

1110 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:26:15am

re: #1103 alegrias

* * * *
Teen pregnancies for example. Not funny for anyone.

That's a little too serious for what I was referring to.

1111 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:26:49am
1112 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:26:56am

re: #1105 Ben Hur

I'm asking because I heard a report yesterday that it was done with no rhyme or reason.

Not by any standard or "the lowest 25% in sales" etc...

* * * *
In Soviet Union, Government closes your biznez.

1113 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:27:32am

re: #1103 alegrias

* * * *
Teen pregnancies for example. Not funny for anyone.

I heard on the radio yesterday that more than 50% of hispanic girls in this country become pregnant while still teenagers. While that would, therefore, include 18 and 19 year olds that are technically adults, this is very disturbing.

1114 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:27:41am

re: #1007 SummerSong
Yes, Charles is somewhat more restrained than some of us!

1115 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:27:58am

re: #1107 sattv4u2

For what it's worth, I have your back, Walter. I know it wasn't you questioning Goddesses "loyalty"

It's worth a lot, considering how crazy this has become. Like I said above, I'm off the subject now. For those who don't agree with the tact I took, I'm sorry, for those that understood what I was saying, thanks.

It's not worth making everyone mad over this. I suspect that Goddess will be able to take care of this herself, considering that Realwest has now emailed her and she says it wasn't her posting on the anti-LGF blog.

Too bad it came to this.

1116 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:28:23am

who will have the last word?....you?

1117 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:28:35am

re: #1064 Ford_Prefect

Which head were you thinking with?

That reminds me of this joke that I actually found a link to:

Buckwheat & Darla were in school, and the teacher asks Darla "How do you spell 'dumb'?"

Darla says "d-u-m-b, dumb" The teacher says, "very good, now use it in a sentence."

She says "Buckwheat is dumb"

Now spell "stupid". Darla says "s-t-u-p-i-d, stupid". The teacher says, "very good, now use it in a sentence."

Darla says "Buckwheat is stupid."

Then the teacher calls on Buckwheat and says "Buckwheat, spell dictate."

Buckwheat stands and says "d-i-c-t-a-t-e, dictate". The teacher says, "very good, now use it in a sentence."

"I may be dumb, and I may be stupid, but Darla say my dictate good!"

1118 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:29:33am

re: #1014 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's the pattern. Liberals screw up a nice place like California or Massachusetts, can't live under the policies they enact, then move to neighboring states like Colorado & New Hampshire & start the process anew.

Yep. And regrettfully some of them have come down here and are repeating the process all over again.
There just ain't no cure for stupid.

1119 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:29:33am

re: #1111 buzzsawmonkey

The Torah cautions us against slander, but also against lashon hara (evil speech); "you shall not go up and down as a talebearer among your people."

"Slander" is the retailing of falsehoods; lashon hara refers to the injury that is done by repeating tales about someone even if they are true, because one cannot be sure that one knows the full story, and whether what one says, even if objectively true as far as it goes, is still a falsehood by virtue of being incomplete, or injurious simply because it needlessly incites speculation, or anger, or envy, or any number of other base emotions.

It is said that lashon hara harms three people; the person who speaks it, the person who hears it, and the person whom it is about.

If someone should see something that Charles should perhaps know about, the appropriate thing would be to notify him; if that person wants to ask someone about something they've posted here or elsewhere, the appropriate thing is to ask about it directly. Neither of these solutions blackens someone's reputation needlessly, nor gives rise to unfounded speculation.

The least appropriate action--the lashon hara action--is to drag it in here like a cat with a dead mouse and drop it in the middle of a thread in that person's absence.

I regret I have but one upding to give.

1120 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:29:55am

re: #1111 buzzsawmonkey

Very well stated.

1121 soxfan4life  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:29:56am

re: #1088 Ben Hur

Any word on how many car dealerships that were shut down by The One were minority owned?


Here is some info on Chrysler, seems as though GM is not putting out that info as of now.

[Link: www.hispanicbusiness.com...]


GM says their cutting will be colorblind and result only from low sales figures.

[Link: www.businessweek.com...]

1122 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:30:40am

re: #1111 buzzsawmonkey

That's why I usually email things like this to Charles and let him figure it out.

1123 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:31:00am

re: #1117 turn

ROTFL

1124 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:31:27am

re: #1113 Ford_Prefect

I heard on the radio yesterday that more than 50% of hispanic girls in this country become pregnant while still teenagers. While that would, therefore, include 18 and 19 year olds that are technically adults, this is very disturbing.

* * * * *
Evolution in action. All natural!

Perhaps their families don't encourage their daughters to take hormones to prevent pregnancy, and are willing to help raise children, despite their low income.

Think how much they save in In Vitro Fertilization treatments, by not waiting until their 30s and 40s to have children.

1125 CommonCents  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:33:29am

re: #1121 soxfan4life

Here is some info on Chrysler, seems as though GM is not putting out that info as of now.

[Link: www.hispanicbusiness.com...]


GM says their cutting will be colorblind and result only from low sales figures.

[Link: www.businessweek.com...]

Good link.
5.03% Percent of total Chrysler dealerships minority owned.
4.06% Percent of dealerships closing minority owned.
5.35% Percent of total dealerships minority owned after the closures.

1126 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:33:45am

re: #1124 alegrias

Please tell me you're kidding.

1127 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:34:18am

Charles doesn't need this shit. I'm sure he'll have a lot of hate mail from the previous thread. Might be nice if he got some nice mail from us once in awhile for putting up with all of us. Poor man.

1128 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:35:59am

re: #1126 Ford_Prefect

Please tell me you're kidding.

* * **
It's a working hypothesis. Got a better one?

1129 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:35:59am

re: #1085 albusteve

did you read mine?....obviously not

Yes, I read them. Good job to you too.

1130 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:36:04am

re: #1055 CommonCents
Uh Oh. That sounds like how CRA got it's start - and formed "Sub-prime mortgages" from which most of the evils in the housing market depression can be traced.

1131 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:36:10am

re: #1017 Sharmuta

Yeah, beauty is skin deep, but UGLY goes clear to the bone!

/

1132 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:36:14am

yo Charles....thanks for all you do and may the good Lord shine a light on you, make every song you sing the perfect tune

1133 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:36:17am

re: #1010 alegrias

* * * *
Saturday Night Live spoofed Geithner mercilessly recently.

But oddly, last weekend SNL didn't touch Nancy Pelosi's comic news conference, that I know of.

SNL attacked Dick Cheney & former Pres. Bush instead.

Beat that dead horse!

1134 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:36:56am

re: #1129 midwestgak

Yes, I read them. Good job to you too.

it's not that at all...ceasefire

1135 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:36:58am

re: #1056 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Same thing. Responded very well to chemo last time, and she lost her hair, but did not get sick.

Prayers and best wishes going up for her right now.

1136 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:37:07am

Charles sleeping late again?

1137 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:37:55am

re: #1136 Ward Cleaver

Charles sleeping late again?

Don't think so. A comment way up thread got deleted about 10 minutes ago, at least I think it did.

1138 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:37:55am

re: #1136 Ward Cleaver

Charles sleeping late again?

Charles might, just might, have a life apart from LGF and catering to us.

1139 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:38:08am

re: #1119 reine.de.tout

Did y'all see me wave as I passed by on Friday morning and Monday evening?

/

1140 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:38:22am

re: #1136 Ward Cleaver

Charles sleeping late again?

Spy says he's dinging downstairs.

1141 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:38:36am

re: #1138 reine.de.tout

Charles might, just might, have a life apart from LGF and catering to us.

Why would he want that?

1142 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:38:49am

re: #1136 Ward Cleaver

Charles sleeping late again?

he's down at Tacotown for the burrito special

1143 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:38:50am

re: #1138 reine.de.tout

Charles might, just might, have a life apart from LGF and catering to us.

Ya think?

1144 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:38:57am

re: #1138 reine.de.tout

Charles might, just might, have a life apart from LGF and catering to us.

Oh, I know that. I miss those "cycle of violence" threads, BTW.

1145 Bloodnok  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:39:05am

re: #1132 albusteve

yo Charles....thanks for all you do and may the good Lord shine a light on you, make every song you sing the perfect tune

Couldn't resist the Stones quote, eh? But hear, hear anyway.

1146 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:39:34am

re: #1142 albusteve

he's down at Tacotown for the burrito special

tacos rule

1147 Kenneth  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:39:43am

re: #1138 reine.de.tout

Charles might, just might, have a life apart from LGF and catering to us.

Oh right, as if!

{reine}

1148 lawhawk  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:40:10am

re: #1144 Ward Cleaver

And the reason that he stopped with those cycle of violence threads is because he was getting threats from people who apparently figured out his routine IRL.

1149 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:40:16am

re: #1145 Bloodnok

Couldn't resist the Stones quote, eh? But hear, hear anyway.

heh...it works

1150 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:40:25am

re: #1139 OldLineTexan

Did y'all see me wave as I passed by on Friday morning and Monday evening?

/

Where'd you pass by at?

1151 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:40:44am

re: #1133 Ward Cleaver

Beat that dead horse!

* * * * **
Liberals can't believe former Vice President Dick Cheney would speak up & DEFEND actions he believed were honorable.

Dems are apparently more comfortable with liars lying "I did NOT have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski."

Or being like COlin Powell & Richard Armitage, cowardly remaining silent after leaking Valerie Pflame's identity, though she wasn't really a covert agent at the time Armitage leaked her name to the press.

1152 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:41:07am

re: #1134 albusteve

it's not that at all...ceasefire

White flag

1153 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:41:19am

re: #1150 reine.de.tout

Where'd you pass by at?

what?...you ended a sentence with a preposition....very bad

1154 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:41:25am

re: #1150 reine.de.tout

Where'd you pass by at?

On my way to and from Atlanta ... all the way through Louisiana from Texas to Mississippi on 10 and 12 and 10, respectively.

;)

1155 wrenchwench  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:41:28am

re: #1126 Ford_Prefect

Please tell me you're kidding.

Physically, 18 and 19 year olds having children is healthy. Sociologically, it usually isn't, but sometimes it's just fine.

1156 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:42:18am
1157 Irish Rose  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:42:34am

re: #1155 wrenchwench

Physically, 18 and 19 year olds having children is healthy. Sociologically, it usually isn't, but sometimes it's just fine.

Last thing I need to hear this morning..

1158 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:42:48am

re: #1154 OldLineTexan

On my way to and from Atlanta ... all the way through Louisiana from Texas to Mississippi on 10 and 12 and 10, respectively.

;)

Oh-ho!
Long drive, eh?
Wish I'd seen you wave.
Should have given me a heads up.
I coulda grabbed Pink Freud and we could have said "hello".

1159 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:42:49am

re: #1101 Ford_Prefect

I don't think it really matters. the problem is that any of them are being forced to shut down. Like any other business they should do their best to survive and those that can't will close. From what I hear there are profitable dealerships that are being shut down with no recourse. Just wrong.

The thing I can't figure out is how closing dealerships, which are independently owned, helps the automakers. They have no costs associated with operating extra dealerships. They're actually probably going to reduce their sales volume. Makes no sense to me.

Now, if the automakers own a core group of dealerships somebody please wise me up. But if they were closing independents to drive business to their own stores, I'd expect howls from the antitrust people, and rightly so.

1160 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:43:10am

re: #1115 Walter L. Newton
"Realwest has now emailed her and she says it wasn't her posting on the anti-LGF blog."
NOT QUITE. I've e-mailed her but have not heard back but I don't believe she would post on an LGF HATE SITE.

1161 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:43:15am

re: #919 turn

They're structural steel painters (read "bridge painters") and are barely keeping enough paint on the steel with only 6 guys to cover the work on three bridges (Benicia-Martinez, Carquinez Straits, and Antioch bridges). Mister Rust is gaining big time, the road surface is disintegrating (the bridge maintenance folks are also down big-time), plus it's all for 10% less. CALTRANS finally decided they had to hire a few more bodies so a couple of weeks ago the hubby was testing the experienced painters applying for the Journeyman positions (first test -- make 'em walk up the cable from the deck up to the tower; if they can't handle the height, they're outta there).

The only reason they had any experienced applicants was because the housing industry has practically shut down in the state, so a lot of painters are having a hard time scraping up enough work to get by. Eight guys passed the test, the hubby's shop was supposed to get four of them. Three of them called back to say they didn't want the job -- they either did the math on how much (little) they'll get paid, or their current bosses made them counter-offers to keep them, so now they're down to one (!) new guy coming in.

So no dead wood in that shop, but there's plenty of it around -- they could probably fire 90% of the CALTRANS District 4 workers and still get the job done.

1162 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:43:51am

re: #1155 wrenchwench

Physically, 18 and 19 year olds having children is healthy. Sociologically, it usually isn't, but sometimes it's just fine.

* * * * *
In the taxpayer financed, ACORN "managed" public housing tracts near me, 18 & 19 year old mothers are OLD!

Grandmothers are 30 & 40 year olds.

Marriages? Hahahaha.

1163 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:43:54am

re: #1158 reine.de.tout

Oh-ho!
Long drive, eh?
Wish I'd seen you wave.
Should have given me a heads up.
I coulda grabbed Pink Freud and we could have said "hello".

Fourteen hours in "the saddle" on Monday, but good company and a good breakfast in Alabama made it alright.

1164 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:43:59am

re: #1153 albusteve

what?...you ended a sentence with a preposition....very bad

That is something up with which I should not put. :-)

I was wondering how long it would take the grammar police to say something. Funny, but I didn't think it would be you LOL.

1165 Ben Hur  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:44:10am

re: #1121 soxfan4life

Thanks!

1166 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:44:33am

re: #1082 tokyobk

Charles, I thought you might appreciate this quote from Seneca:

'This is the difference between us Romans and the Etruscans. 'We believe that lightning is caused by clouds colliding, whereas they believe that clouds collide in order to create lightning. Since they attribute everything to gods, they are led to believe not that events have a meaning because they have happened, but that they happen in order to express a meaning.''

Good quote. The problem with strict creationists IMO is that unlike Etruscans or Romans they would claim that lightening exists independent of clouds even in the face of evidence that clouds and lightening are connected. I favor the Etruscans philosophically in thinking that existance has a deeper meaning and is influenced by God but not to the point that I deny that all creation is a very ancient and logical thing.

1167 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:44:43am

re: #1156 buzzsawmonkey

There are certain areas of New York where it is customary to end sentences with a proposition.

for me that would be a deal on Circle Line tickets...ho hum

1168 wrenchwench  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:44:45am

re: #1157 Irish Rose

Last thing I need to hear this morning..

{Rose} I think your son will be OK. I'm glad the driver got pulled over before something worse happened. Go cops!

1169 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:44:52am

re: #1155 wrenchwench

Physically, 18 and 19 year olds having children is healthy. Sociologically, it usually isn't, but sometimes it's just fine.

Agreed. There are definitely varying degrees of maturity at that age. However, I would wager that most of them are younger than that. The problems caused by teen pregnancy are so huge, not only to the people immediately involved, but to the community as a whole. If the trend continues the hispanic community is in real trouble.

1170 irongrampa  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:45:52am

Idle thought before I head out to annoy the local trout population--how about, instead of Obama Derangement Syndrome, refer to it as Obama Disgust Syndrome?

1171 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:46:15am
1172 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:46:59am

re: #1167 albusteve

for me that would be a deal on Circle Line tickets...ho hum


Huh?!

1173 wrenchwench  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:47:27am

re: #1169 Ford_Prefect

Agreed. There are definitely varying degrees of maturity at that age. However, I would wager that most of them are younger than that. The problems caused by teen pregnancy are so huge, not only to the people immediately involved, but to the community as a whole. If the trend continues the hispanic community is in real trouble.

Yeah, I live in that community. The biggest problem with the youngsters having youngsters is that the lack of mature adult supervision contributes greatly to the gang problems.

1174 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:48:00am

re: #1164 reine.de.tout

That is something up with which I should not put. :-)

I was wondering how long it would take the grammar police to say something. Funny, but I didn't think it would be you LOL.

it's the only grammar rule I know....I wield it like an ax

1175 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:48:01am

re: #1159 Son of the Black Dog

The thing I don't understand is that with the current economy there are going to be dealers closing because they can't make enough sales to survive. Why not just let things take their natural course? It doesn't make sense, and it isn't Capitalism, that is for sure.

1176 midwestgak  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:48:04am

re: #1164 reine.de.tout

That is something up with which I should not put. :-)

{reine} a very funny line in She Devil (the maid):

"This is shit up with I will not put."

1177 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:48:53am

The silver lining to the cloud of getting caught in youthful indiscretion is that experience teaches more effectively than precept.

1178 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:49:09am

re: #1162 alegrias

* * * * *
In the taxpayer financed, ACORN "managed" public housing tracts near me, 18 & 19 year old mothers are OLD!

Grandmothers are 30 & 40 year olds.

Marriages? Hahahaha.


Good Lord alegrias - where do you live? Chicago?!

1179 Sharmuta  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:49:20am

re: #1171 Iron Fist

Maybe it is just me, but the sense of "community" isn't what it used to be at LGF. At least that is the way it feels to me. I can't express it any more clearly. There isn't any one thing or issue or whatever that makes me say this. It is just a general feeling. Maybe it's just me.

No- it's not just you. We've seen a lot of people flip out since pamela started this trend, Cousin Fist. It's sad, but getting burned a couple of times can lead one to being cautious, and that can lead to people not being as willing to bond.

1180 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:49:36am

re: #1176 midwestgak

'Mornin', Gak!
Good to see you here.

I saw upthread job search not going so well.
Chin up, it will turn around!

1181 Kenneth  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:49:51am

re: #1170 irongrampa

It is perfectly healthy to be disgusted, appalled or simply against many of the things Obama says or does. It's another thing to be so deranged by him that you automatically fall into an hysterical rage over everything he says or does.

1182 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:50:04am

re: #1172 realwest

Huh?!

[Link: www.circleline42.com...]

for the hayseeds like me

1183 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:50:11am

re: #1171 Iron Fist

Maybe it is just me, but the sense of "community" isn't what it used to be at LGF. At least that is the way it feels to me. I can't express it any more clearly. There isn't any one thing or issue or whatever that makes me say this. It is just a general feeling. Maybe it's just me.

I made a similar observation upthread. I do have a suggestion: let's see how we can make our big tent bigger. Why can't Creationists co-exist with the anti-religious? We can share similar values, even if we come from different places. We do have some real enemies who want us dead, or even those who want to restrict our freedoms. You know?

1184 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:50:13am

re: #1173 wrenchwench

Yeah, I live in that community. The biggest problem with the youngsters having youngsters is that the lack of mature adult supervision contributes greatly to the gang problems.

One thing that bothers me is that you rarely hear about the option of giving a child up for adoption. In so many cases that would be the best option for everyone involved, especially the child.

1185 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:52:02am

re: #1171 Iron Fist

Maybe it is just me, but the sense of "community" isn't what it used to be at LGF. At least that is the way it feels to me. I can't express it any more clearly. There isn't any one thing or issue or whatever that makes me say this. It is just a general feeling. Maybe it's just me.

I agree...not sure why tho, or maybe I don't want to say

1186 Kenneth  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:52:33am

I just visited LGF2 for the first time ever. Very sad to see so many former lizards posting there, some of them I had considered good people. About 95% of the topics and comments are all about how much they hate Charles.

I guess we can call that Charles Derangement Syndrome

1187 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:52:45am

Good News, maybe the GITMO Boyre: #1178 realwest

Good Lord alegrias - where do you live? Chicago?!

* * * *
Beautiful downtown Alexandria, Virginia! 6 miles south of our Nation's Capital.

C'mon Realwest, Washington DC two blocks from the White House is the same!

Children having children, gangsta baby-daddies, awful public schools run by crappy teachers Unions, corrupt cops, open drug markets, all run by Democrats.

There's been no change here, same as it's ever been.

1188 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:53:42am

re: #1170 irongrampa

Idle thought before I head out to annoy the local trout population--how about, instead of Obama Derangement Syndrome, refer to it as Obama Disgust Syndrome?

How's about we use it as Disgust instead of Derangement? I don't see anything "deranged" about criticizing someone who's done all the disgusting things he's already done (e.g., insisting that the Stimulus Bill - all 1300+ pages of it HAD to be passed immediately and once it was, he took a three day weekend before getting around to signing it and making it law) but there are some folks who criticize him unfairly and with much too much vitriol for what he's done or hasn't done.

1189 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:53:59am

re: #1178 realwest

Good Lord alegrias - where do you live? Chicago?!

real, seriously ... ANY public housing.

1190 reine.de.tout  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:54:02am

re: #1184 Ford_Prefect

One thing that bothers me is that you rarely hear about the option of giving a child up for adoption. In so many cases that would be the best option for everyone involved, especially the child.

This is an area that needs to be addressed.
One could begin by viewing it, not as "giving the child up", but instead, by viewing it as "planning the best possible future for the child", which may or may not include the birth mother.

The option of placing a child for adoption has, for some reason, a really bad reputation. People I know who have done it try to keep quiet about it, lest someone holler and fuss at them about "giving up your child to a stranger".

That's not how it works these days. Ultimately, it is the child's best interests that need to take precedence over any selfish desire for a family to hang onto their "flesh and blood" regardless of the cost to the baby.

1191 Karagush  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:54:08am

re: #1184 Ford_Prefect

One thing that bothers me is that you rarely hear about the option of giving a child up for adoption. In so many cases that would be the best option for everyone involved, especially the child.

as a woman who cant have her own children, this option i think is very underplayed. if people have to go to other countries to find adoptable kids... something is wrong.

we should make clear this is something you can do. As a person in contact with teen gils what i hate to hear is "I could never give a baby up if i carried it i would love it too much."
So they abort.
uh huh.
weird. I just dont get it. I am not against abortion in some cases. but for convenience...no. i think its wrong. There are people who want those kids.

1192 johnnyreb  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:54:19am

re: #1171 Iron Fist

Maybe it is just me, but the sense of "community" isn't what it used to be at LGF. At least that is the way it feels to me. I can't express it any more clearly. There isn't any one thing or issue or whatever that makes me say this. It is just a general feeling. Maybe it's just me.

It ain't just you. Lately there seems to be more of what we call "robust" conversations. We have to use that word when dealing with union meetings and there is shouting going on.

And it just doesn't seem to be the creation/anti creation threads. Nearly every thread seems to me to have some sort of meltdown lately.

1193 Kenneth  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:55:05am

re: #1171 Iron Fist

It comes and goes, in my opinion. For a while a number of posters tend to hang out online together, comments flow, and so on. Then people come and go, for whatever reason, and the old gang isn't there anymore.

1194 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:55:33am

re: #539 vxbush

I think you may be lumping a bit too much there. Yes, the site has included many characters who are disreputable, but it has become more just an Anti-LGF site. I have a great deal of respect for GoTC.

I am disappointed to read this from you.

1195 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:56:04am

re: #1159 Son of the Black Dog

The thing I can't figure out is how closing dealerships, which are independently owned, helps the automakers. They have no costs associated with operating extra dealerships. They're actually probably going to reduce their sales volume. Makes no sense to me.

Now, if the automakers own a core group of dealerships somebody please wise me up. But if they were closing independents to drive business to their own stores, I'd expect howls from the antitrust people, and rightly so.

I see far too much misinofrmation regarding the dealerships being passed around.

1. Manufacturers have franchise agreements with individual dealers. These agreements are protected by state franchise laws, and previously were very hard to terminate. The states favored the dealers over the manufacturers.

2. The Detroit manufacturers expanded in a time when people did not travel as far. There were no freeways. As such, they needed larger dealer networks to compensate. Currently, the dealer network is far too large for the modern era.

3. Some of the manufacturers (GM, I'm looking at you) decided to have a dealership for each brand they had. For example, at one time, my home town had a dealer for each Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, and Cadillac. Each had its own dealership.

4. Some dealers in the past were so small they only carried a portion of the lineup. This was one of the major problems for Studebaker, and one of the reasons for their decline. The really small dealers would only carry a couple of cars on the lot and factory order the rest.

5. They, because of the previous ideas behind locating dealers, have too many dealers located near each other. That is why one apparently profitable dealer is being shut down in favor of another just as profitable dealer. There is only room for one of them, not two. It's also why retailers don't have their stores on every street corner in town. Why should automobiles be any different?

6. Because of various state laws and federal laws, the manufacturers cannot own any of the dealerships.

7. They will not be reducing their sales volume as many of the dealers closed only sold a portion of the lineup. Example, a Dodge dealer down the street from a Chrysler-Jeep dealer. Combining the two means that fewer salespeople are needed to sell more cars. People interested in the Dodge lineup will now go to the Chrysler-Jeep dealer which is now the Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep dealer. The dealer now has the full lineup of vehicles and can sell a larger number. In the end, it will help the survivng dealer be more profitable.

1196 debutaunt  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:56:32am

re: #1192 johnnyreb

It ain't just you. Lately there seems to be more of what we call "robust" conversations. We have to use that word when dealing with union meetings and there is shouting going on.

And it just doesn't seem to be the creation/anti creation threads. Nearly every thread seems to me to have some sort of meltdown lately.

Wheat and deranged chaff?

1197 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:57:04am

re: #1175 Ford_Prefect

The thing I don't understand is that with the current economy there are going to be dealers closing because they can't make enough sales to survive. Why not just let things take their natural course? It doesn't make sense, and it isn't Capitalism, that is for sure.

One thing I do know about auto dealerships is that they cover the overhead for the entire operation out of the service department, or at least they used to. Whatever they make on vehicle sales is almost pure profit. The salesman are guaranteed only minimum wage - no sales, no commissions. So even if a dealership only sells 20 cars a month they're still profitable, and they make more on the used car trade-ins than they do on new car sales. Lots of times the profit on the new car is close to zero, but they make it up, and more, when they sell the trade-in.

1198 quickjustice  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:57:06am

re: #1111 buzzsawmonkey

Mea culpa.

1199 wrenchwench  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:57:49am

re: #1184 Ford_Prefect

One thing that bothers me is that you rarely hear about the option of giving a child up for adoption. In so many cases that would be the best option for everyone involved, especially the child.

There is a lot of support here for young mothers. They can stay in school, and the ones who do generally wait a longer time before having a second child. But you're right, I don't hear anything about adoption being promoted. There are a lot of grandparents raising their grandchildren, though.

1200 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:58:15am

re: #1197 Son of the Black Dog

Don't forget selling "extended warranties" at whatever you can get the rube in your office to pay.

1201 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:58:27am

re: #1194 Charles

I am disappointed to read this from you.

My apologies, Charles. As I said later, I don't read the other sites, and I honestly wasn't sure which site was being referenced. It was my desire to not group GoTC with any of those sites and I hate dissing on anyone, even if they deserve it. So I misspoke, and I will gladly admit I goofed.

1202 alegrias  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:58:45am

re: #1189 OldLineTexan

real, seriously ... ANY public housing.

* * * * *
When I walk through the neighboring taxpayer financed crony-run public housing, it reinforces my beliefs that it's just wrong to keep paying for generation after generation of bad decisions.

Broken glass bottles in the path of small children, teens & adults just hanging around waiting for handouts from their ward heelers, no one dressed for work, gangstas hustling. Ugh. Who thinks this is the way to help people up?

1203 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:58:49am

re: #1171 Iron Fist Well yes and no (equivacate who, me?) I know what you mean, but I think that comes from having a lot of long time LGFer's either being banned or just not coming around here any more.
OTOH, thank mostly to Walter L. Newton, we all did get together and help LGFer DustyVet manage to fund his way to his older sister's funeral and to help defray some of the cost of that funeral. I just think that there are a lot of NEW LGFer's who haven't been around here long enough for the "community" to be more completely restored.

1204 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:59:21am

re: #1202 alegrias

* * * * *
When I walk through the neighboring taxpayer financed crony-run public housing, it reinforces my beliefs that it's just wrong to keep paying for generation after generation of bad decisions.

Broken glass bottles in the path of small children, teens & adults just hanging around waiting for handouts from their ward heelers, no one dressed for work, gangstas hustling. Ugh. Who thinks this is the way to help people up?

No one. It is a permanent source of votes and graft, though.

1205 Karagush  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:59:34am

re: #1199 wrenchwench

There is a lot of support here for young mothers. They can stay in school, and the ones who do generally wait a longer time before having a second child. But you're right, I don't hear anything about adoption being promoted. There are a lot of grandparents raising their grandchildren, though.

im actually good with the grandparent option. I was raised by my gramma till i was 7 or so. it was great. mom wasnt a teen, but dad abandoned her cleaned out the bank accounts, and she was dirt poor. So she went to work, and Gramma raised me. All in all it worked great.

1206 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:00:20am

re: #1192 johnnyreb

It ain't just you. Lately there seems to be more of what we call "robust" conversations. We have to use that word when dealing with union meetings and there is shouting going on.

And it just doesn't seem to be the creation/anti creation threads. Nearly every thread seems to me to have some sort of meltdown lately.

I respect my Elders and my Betters....others don't....sometimes it is more important to be civil than to be right

1207 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:02:24am

re: #1206 albusteve

I respect my Elders and my Betters....others don't....sometimes it is more important to be civil than to be right

Except Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid. Either one is invited to jump in a hole and pull it in after himself. May be a few others on that list. ;)

1208 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:02:25am

re: #1161 tankascribe

Oh, I know a little bit about Caltrans workers. Years ago I was in one of their yards in Oakland, there to assist in the installation of a highway safety product. When I drove into the yard I noticed all of these workers huddled around something on the ground. I walked over to see that they were up to. It was a very gloomy day weather wise and they had a piece of paper on the ground counting the little drops of rain that hit it. One guy was keeping time on his watch and when the drops got to some magic number he said "It's a rain day." They all got in their cars and drove off. Unbelievable. btw, I wouldn't suggest cutting people like your hubby that actually get useful work done.

1209 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:03:19am

re: #1175 Ford_Prefect

re: #1197 Son of the Black Dog

Letter from a Dodge Dealer

letter to the editor

My name is George C. Joseph. I am the sole owner of Sunshine Dodge-Isuzu, a family owned and operated business in Melbourne, Florida My family bought and paid for this automobile franchise 35 years ago in 1974. I am the second generation to manage this business.

We currently employ 50+ people and before the economic slowdown we employed over 70 local people. We are active in the community and the local chamber of commerce. We deal with several dozen local vendors on a day to day basis and many more during a month. All depend on our business for part of their livelihood. We are financially strong with great respect in the market place and community. We have strong local presence and stability.

I work every day the store is open, nine to ten hours a day. I know most of our customers and all our employees. Sunshine Dodge is my life.

On Thursday, May 14, 2009 I was notified that my Dodge franchise, that we purchased, will be taken away from my family on June 9, 2009 without compensation and given to another dealer at no cost to them. My new vehicle inventory consists of 125 vehicles with a financed balance of 3 million dollars. This inventory becomes impossible to sell with no factory incentives beyond June 9, 2009. Without the Dodge franchise we can no longer sell a new Dodge as "new," nor will we be able to do any warranty service work. Additionally, my Dodge parts inventory, (approximately $300,000.) is virtually worthless without the ability to perform warranty service. There is no offer from Chrysler to buy back the vehicles or parts inventory.

Our facility was recently totally renovated at Chrysler's insistence, incurring a multi-million dollar debt in the form of a mortgage at Sun Trust Bank.

HOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN THIS HAPPEN?

THIS IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS NOT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY

This is beyond imagination! My business is being stolen from me through NO FAULT OF OUR OWN. We did NOTHING wrong.

This atrocity will most likely force my family into bankruptcy. This will also cause our 50+ employees to be unemployed. How will they provide for their families? This is a total economic disaster.

HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

I beseech your help, and look forward to your reply. Thank you.

Sincerely,

George C. Joseph
President & Owner
Sunshine Dodge-Isuzu

1210 wrenchwench  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:03:37am

re: #1205 Karagush

im actually good with the grandparent option. I was raised by my gramma till i was 7 or so. it was great. mom wasnt a teen, but dad abandoned her cleaned out the bank accounts, and she was dirt poor. So she went to work, and Gramma raised me. All in all it worked great.

Hi Kara!

It can be a great option. I think a lot of folks do better at parenting the second time around. But it's a damn good thing I wasn't raised by my grandmother. I see what it did to my mother! Maybe my other gramma would have been ok....

1211 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:04:18am

re: #1148 lawhawk

And the reason that he stopped with those cycle of violence threads is because he was getting threats from people who apparently figured out his routine IRL.

That's a drag.

1212 albusteve  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:04:22am

re: #1207 OldLineTexan

Except Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid. Either one is invited to jump in a hole and pull it in after himself. May be a few others on that list. ;)

on the other hand, if those guys are registered here, they can go fuck themselves

1213 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:04:38am

re: #1194 Charles
Good morning Charles - I hope you were "diappointed" in her description of that site and not her respect for goddessoftheclassroom.
I have e-mailed her to see if in fact it was her who posted on that Hate Site because I happen to repect goddess too - and I suspect, as with others, she was nic-jacked.
Just her work as Keeper of the List should earn her some kudos I think.

1214 UFO TOFU  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:06:00am

re: #1203 realwest

Nice about Dustyvet, I guess I missed that one. I remember the Katrina support going on here.

1215 turn  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:06:51am

re: #1177 DaddyG

The silver lining to the cloud of getting caught in youthful indiscretion is that experience teaches more effectively than precept.

I really liked that G. I learned "this too in time will pass" from my dad when I was young. He was consoling me after the worst f-up in my life.

1216 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:07:07am

re: #1183 Golem Akbar

I made a similar observation upthread. I do have a suggestion: let's see how we can make our big tent bigger. Why can't Creationists co-exist with the anti-religious? We can share similar values, even if we come from different places. We do have some real enemies who want us dead, or even those who want to restrict our freedoms. You know?

If I were to make a wonkish observation (and you know I will...) the debates within LGF reflect the larger debate going on in conservative political parties. Right now in the aftermath of a defeat in the polls there is jockying to re-define or find a winning combination for the next time. Factions get more vocal and pronounced as they vie for what they feel is the right answer. Hopefully common ground will be found around some fundamental conservative principles and the vocal fringe won't carry the platform, but in the end conservatism must coalesce around a mutually agreeable set of principles prior to the next election or they run the risk of balkinizing themselves.

This organizational process is natural after a defeat. What will tell with time is if the jockying for leadership in the revised organization will end with a successful new normative set of behaviors and beliefs.

Having said that... one difficulty conservatives have with coalescing is the fact that they tend to define themselves by principled positions (crazy or not) and do not tend to let go of those positions based on relative morality or for utilitarian reasons. Getting a stauch conservative who identifies creationism as part of their core values to drop the issue in order to win incremental power in congress to shrink big government is not the stuff catchy slogans are made of.

1217 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:08:29am

re: #1183 Golem Akbar

I made a similar observation upthread. I do have a suggestion: let's see how we can make our big tent bigger. Why can't Creationists co-exist with the anti-religious?

And what would that mean? If you're suggesting that I stop criticizing creationism or the people like Rush Limbaugh who enable it, that's simply not going to happen.

The people who are unable to coexist are ALWAYS the creationists, by the way. When their beliefs are challenged, they tend to start spewing insults and irrationality -- and often demand that their accounts be deleted because they just can't tolerate criticism, or end up being so abusive that I have no choice but to block them.

And I notice yet another attempt in your post to equate a non-belief in creationism with being "anti-religion." How tedious, and how false.

1218 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:09:34am

re: #1184 Ford_Prefect

One thing that bothers me is that you rarely hear about the option of giving a child up for adoption. In so many cases that would be the best option for everyone involved, especially the child.

I completely agree. Unfortunately, I think there is are unrealistic portrayals of motherhood as wonderful and easy being pushed to young girls. I hear a lot about how teen pregnancy isn't a mistake so much anymore! It breaks my heart to see such young girls become mothers, the result is 2 childhoods lost.
(BTW, I am an adoptive mother, so I have a vested and biased interest in the issue....just disclosing)

1219 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:09:35am

re: #1209 unrealizedviewpoint

re: #1197 Son of the Black Dog

Letter from a Dodge Dealer

letter to the editor

My name is George C. Joseph. I am the sole owner of Sunshine Dodge-Isuzu, a family owned and operated business in Melbourne, Florida My family bought and paid for this automobile franchise 35 years ago in 1974. I am the second generation to manage this business.

Welcome to the world of bankruptcy. It could have been much worse if all the dealers had been shut down with the factory.

1220 Charles Johnson  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:09:49am

re: #1213 realwest

Good morning Charles - I hope you were "diappointed" in her description of that site and not her respect for goddessoftheclassroom.
I have e-mailed her to see if in fact it was her who posted on that Hate Site because I happen to repect goddess too - and I suspect, as with others, she was nic-jacked.
Just her work as Keeper of the List should earn her some kudos I think.

I've read the comments in question, and I have to admit it does not look like an impersonator. But I'll wait for her to respond to you.

1221 [deleted]  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:12:06am
1222 vxbush  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:13:19am

Okay: time for a walk. I apparently am unable to express anything coherently today.

1223 quickjustice  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:14:38am

re: #1219 avanti

In bankruptcy, the debtor corporation has the right to reject executory contracts, including dealership contracts. The dealerships, in turn, have a claim against the bankrupt corporation for damages suffered as a consequence of the rejection. They're unlikely to collect 100% of the amount of their claims, however.

Rejection is supposed to be of contracts that aren't profitable for the debtor. If Chrysler is rejecting contracts with profitable dealerships, I suspect political motives.

1224 Kenneth  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:15:17am

Quick, somebody check Sandy Berger's pants!

The National Archives lost a computer hard drive containing massive amounts of sensitive data from the Clinton administration, including Social Security numbers, addresses, and Secret Service and White House operating procedures, congressional officials said Tuesday.

1225 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:15:25am

Well y'all I gotta go. I hope you all have a great day and that I get to see you all down the road.

1226 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:15:44am

re: #1209 unrealizedviewpoint Dear __________ [insert dealership owner name here],

Weclome to the peoples republic of Hopenchange. We are securing your assets for the use of the people (and the chidlren). Your sacrifice in order to better our great country will long be remembered by our citizens.

Your concerns have been noted but take heart, our new leader will use all of his campaign experience to make his positions known as he micromanages our economy into this brave new age.

If you despair just remember.

We Won!

Sincerely,

The peoples representative.

1227 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:17:22am

re: #1219 avanti

Welcome to the world of bankruptcy. It could have been much worse if all the dealers had been shut down with the factory.

Please cite where the bankruptcy law states that if a manufacturer goes into protection the government can seize the assets of an independent distributor?

1228 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:17:37am

re: #1219 avanti

Welcome to the world of bankruptcy. It could have been much worse if all the dealers had been shut down with the factory.

Wrong. This wasn't something approved by a bankruptcy court. This is something that was done by administrative fiat. (no pun intended) A bankruptcy court might have handled this with common sense, and Chrysler (and GM) could keep operating through a bankruptcy proceeding. Besides, see my previous posts on why the dealer network doesn't cost the automakers anything to support. Maybe the objective is to reduce competition, aka higher prices.

What is being done to the dealer network is not the way we did business in an America governed by the rule of law. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Who will they come for next?

1229 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:18:03am

re: #1223 quickjustice

In bankruptcy, the debtor corporation has the right to reject executory contracts, including dealership contracts. The dealerships, in turn, have a claim against the bankrupt corporation for damages suffered as a consequence of the rejection. They're unlikely to collect 100% of the amount of their claims, however.

Rejection is supposed to be of contracts that aren't profitable for the debtor. If Chrysler is rejecting contracts with profitable dealerships, I suspect political motives.

Bankruptcy sucks on many levels and lots of people are hurt from creditors to the guy that works at the dealers. I have no idea what "political" motives Chrysler would have though.

1230 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:18:50am

re: #1209 unrealizedviewpoint

This is a tragedy, wrapped in a travesty.

1231 badger1970  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:19:05am

re: #1113 Ford_Prefect

In this Texas school district, the soon to be grandparents of said teenagers are so proud of their little ones having...littler ones.

1232 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:20:35am

re: #1228 Son of the Black Dog

What is being done to the dealer network is not the way we did business in an America governed by the rule of law. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Who will they come for next?

Homebuilding is too decentralized and defunded right now to grab easily. I'd guess healthcare is the next big target. Perhaps big retailers and distributers too (look out Wal-Mart).

1233 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:20:52am

re: #1231 badger1970

In this Texas school district, the soon to be grandparents of said teenagers are so proud of their little ones having...littler ones.

I can't wrap my head around that mindset, but yes I've seen that here in Kansas too. In suburban middle-class families.

1234 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:23:06am

re: #1227 DaddyG

Please cite where the bankruptcy law states that if a manufacturer goes into protection the government can seize the assets of an independent distributor?

You can't have it both ways. A few months back, I recall conservatives suggesting letting Chrysler and GM fail, regardless of the job and dealer looses. Now, the government is working to save some jobs and dealers and we're complaining about the dealer looses to be profitable.
I don't know what private assets have been siezed.

1235 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:23:35am

re: #1229 avanti

Bankruptcy sucks on many levels and lots of people are hurt from creditors to the guy that works at the dealers. I have no idea what "political" motives Chrysler would have though.

Not Chrysler, the new owners of Chrysler (UAW, USA). It is about power. Obama doesn't trust Adam Smith's invisible hand and seeks to take over because the elites know better than we do about how to run business, produce products and save the planet while doing so.

1236 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:25:35am

re: #1234 avanti

You can't have it both ways. A few months back, I recall conservatives suggesting letting Chrysler and GM fail, regardless of the job and dealer looses. Now, the government is working to save some jobs and dealers and we're complaining about the dealer looses to be profitable.
I don't know what private assets have been siezed.


The asset seized was the franchise which the original dealer paid for now being given to someone else for free. This is re-distribution without consent of the owner. Perhaps the dealership would have gone bankrupt but perhaps they could have survived. The point is some bureaucrat in Washington should not be directing where the market fails or succeeds.

1237 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:25:35am

re: #1227 DaddyG

Please cite where the bankruptcy law states that if a manufacturer goes into protection the government can seize the assets of an independent distributor?

No one is seizing any assets of these dealers. The franchise agreements are being terminated, that is all. Anything else reeks of conspiracy theory bullshit.

1238 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:27:23am

re: #1237 Honorary Yooper

No one is seizing any assets of these dealers. The franchise agreements are being terminated, that is all. Anything else reeks of conspiracy theory bullshit.


By taking the franchise which was paid for by the dealer without compensation you are taking an asset. Not to mention the stock that the franchisee owns which is now useless and the improvements made as part of the contract. These are very real assets and obligations that were taken on by the franchisee as condition of their contract.

1239 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:28:50am

re: #1209 unrealizedviewpoint

That is an absolute outrage. Unbelievable.

1240 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:29:36am

re: #1234 avanti

You can't have it both ways. A few months back, I recall conservatives suggesting letting Chrysler and GM fail, regardless of the job and dealer looses. Now, the government is working to save some jobs and dealers and we're complaining about the dealer looses to be profitable.
I don't know what private assets have been siezed.

Did you even ready the letter from the dealer in post #1209. Tell me his property isn't being seized.

Then there are the Chrysler first mortgage bond holders, who have had their property seized without just compensation and transferred to the ownership of the UAW.

1241 DaddyG  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:29:40am

Yooper- I'm cool with you refuting my arguments but calling bullshit and downdinging. That's no fun.

You win - I'm off to another thread.

1242 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:31:51am

re: #1236 DaddyG

The asset seized was the franchise which the original dealer paid for now being given to someone else for free. This is re-distribution without consent of the owner. Perhaps the dealership would have gone bankrupt but perhaps they could have survived. The point is some bureaucrat in Washington should not be directing where the market fails or succeeds.

Sadly, that's probably the way his contract was written with Chrysler. It's typical that the dealer's franchise can be canceled for cause, but under bankruptcy, most any reason will do.
If you are saying the government should have just let Chrysler fail completely, I respect that opinion, but don't agree with it.
I feel badly for the failure of some dealers, but in my opinion, all failing would be worse.

1243 avanti  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:37:00am

re: #1240 Son of the Black Dog

Did you even ready the letter from the dealer in post #1209. Tell me his property isn't being seized.

Then there are the Chrysler first mortgage bond holders, who have had their property seized without just compensation and transferred to the ownership of the UAW.

I did miss the part that his property was being seized. I saw where he was loosing his franchise as are all the dealers being closed, but missed the part about the UAW getting his property.

1244 Ford_Prefect  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:38:03am

re: #1205 Karagush

im actually good with the grandparent option. I was raised by my gramma till i was 7 or so. it was great. mom wasnt a teen, but dad abandoned her cleaned out the bank accounts, and she was dirt poor. So she went to work, and Gramma raised me. All in all it worked great.

Certainly there are many situations where that works out fine, however, I believe that more often then not adoption would be better. Adoptive parents will love that child as their own. Grandparent, while they certainly would love the child, will always feel a certain amount of resentment due to having to raise a child after they thought they were done. Many times that resentment may never be felt by the child, but I still feel that it would be in everyone's best interest to go the adoption route.

1245 Picayune  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:41:52am

re: #7 Pawn of the Oppressor


Yep, and it remains so today. Check this current news event from the TP:[Link: www.nola.com...]
(the comments section is hot, as usual)


The kill rate in NOLA makes the Iraq War look tame,
and Louis was not so innocent. His exit from the Big Slezy was prompted by a judge after he was caught as a teenager firing a hand gun into the air on New Year's Eve! But what a talent he displayed.

1246 KansasMom  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:45:17am

re: #1244 Ford_Prefect

Certainly there are many situations where that works out fine, however, I believe that more often then not adoption would be better. Adoptive parents will love that child as their own. Grandparent, while they certainly would love the child, will always feel a certain amount of resentment due to having to raise a child after they thought they were done. Many times that resentment may never be felt by the child, but I still feel that it would be in everyone's best interest to go the adoption route.

Many times grandparents also do this informally, without getting legal guardianship or doing anything to sever parental rights. In those cases where the parent is irresponsible/drug user/an abadoner/etc, they still can waltz in and out of the child's life.

1247 quickjustice  Wed, May 20, 2009 10:54:38am

re: #1229 avanti

"Bankruptcy sucks" only because it's in the context of a shrinking pie. There's not enough money to satisfy all claims in full, so the bankruptcy system allocates losses in a rational way. It's also rational for the debtor corporation to preserve valuable assets, and to dump liabilities. If the debtor is acting irrationally by permitting the waste of valuable assets, then normal rules of business judgment aren't being applied. The question is, "Why not?"

1248 tankascribe  Wed, May 20, 2009 12:46:41pm

re: #1208 turn

Oh, I know a little bit about Caltrans workers. Years ago I was in one of their yards in Oakland, there to assist in the installation of a highway safety product. When I drove into the yard I noticed all of these workers huddled around something on the ground. I walked over to see that they were up to. It was a very gloomy day weather wise and they had a piece of paper on the ground counting the little drops of rain that hit it. One guy was keeping time on his watch and when the drops got to some magic number he said "It's a rain day." They all got in their cars and drove off. Unbelievable. btw, I wouldn't suggest cutting people like your hubby that actually get useful work done.


LOL! I have got to tell that one to my hubby! It's a long way from being the most outrageous waste of the taxpayer's money I've heard tell of, but he'll want to add that one to his repertoire. FYI, the Oakland yards (including the Bay Bridge East Bay paint shop and warehouse) are notorious even by CalTrans' (admittedly low) standards. Last year my hubby was asked to carry an employee on his books. When he asked who the employee was, he was told that the guy was "working at the Oakland headquarters" and to just put said person down for 40 hours of work a week. He refused to do it and had to send them up the management chain to get the requester out of his hair. As he told me the story, he added that he had every expectation that someone in one of the other shops would probably just go ahead and do it, and wondered if the guy would be collecting an extra paycheck, or if the guy even actually existed. Graft is rampant throughout the state; if Arnie really wanted to know how to cut spending and save money, he ought to be talking to the workers on the ground -- he'd get an earful!.

1249 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 2:41:17pm

I seem to have kicked off a bit of a stramash here.

As I said upthread it's possible that Goddess has been impersonated, but it seems extremely unlikely to me. But that's just my opinion, at the end of the day. And if this isn't Goddess, then I think she needs to know that there is someone on LGF2 who is doing an amazingly convincing impersonation of her.

I do take the point though, that I should have used a less public means of alerting the relevant individuals. Backstabbers just get my goat, is all.

1250 shlomzie  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:07:11pm

Did you see this? Five police officers in Alabama fired after they got caught on tape beating up an unconscious man. During the chase, a police officer on foot was struck by the driver being pursued. It appears that the police tried to cover it up by editing out the incriminating part of the tape.

Here's the video:
[Link: www.syracuse.com...]

1251 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 4:22:45pm

re: #573 vxbush

I'll be honest--I don't visit the other sites, because I have no interest.

So, that being the case, what is your basis for saying this?


Yes, the site has included many characters who are disreputable, but it has become more just an Anti-LGF site.
1252 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:00:58pm

re: #1251 Jimmah
So how do you square this comment of yours with your number 1249?
Did it ever occur to you that vxbush and others out here have known goddess far longer and in different ways than you have by your running around to hate sites and then posting here and stirring up shit?
Why do you go to LGF 2?

1253 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:24:29pm

re: #1252 realwest

So how do you square this comment of yours with your number 1249?

What do you mean? There's nothing to square.

Did it ever occur to you that vxbush and others out here have known goddess far longer and in different ways than you have

As was perfectly clear, I was talking about his knowledge of LGF2, not his knowledge of 'goddessoftheclassroom'.

by your running around to hate sites and then posting here and stirring up shit?

Shoot the messenger why don't you? What betrays the worst intentions, realwest - being a backstabber, or pointing said backstabbing out? And as I've said, in the unlikely event of this being an extremely good impersonation, that still needs to be brought to light. Although as I said, I do now agree it would have been better to do that more discreetly.

Why do you go to LGF 2?

Same reasons I do the occasional rounds of Atlas Shrugs and Jihad Watch - (sometimes morbid) curiosity about the rabidly anti-LGF part of the blogosphere, and the odd laugh at their expense. And also to get a heads up on backstabbers/nic jackers, anything else that might be of concern to posters on LGF. I hope that's clear enough.

1254 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 20, 2009 5:33:26pm

re: #1252 realwest

How's it going with the email to 'goddess' btw? Got a reply yet?

1255 realwest  Wed, May 20, 2009 9:22:11pm

re: #1254 Jimmah
Well why don't y'all stick around right here and maybe you'll see something?

1256 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, May 21, 2009 12:28:42pm

re: #1255 realwest

I've stuck around and what I've seen is that 'our dear friend' who feels more comfortable posting on that disgusting hate site than she does here has been blocked.

1257 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 21, 2009 1:47:23pm

re: #1256 Jimmah

I've stuck around and what I've seen is that 'our dear friend' who feels more comfortable posting on that disgusting hate site than she does here has been blocked.

I appreciate you bringing this to my attention. When someone with an LGF account begins posting comments at a site run by stalkers and psychos, I want to know about it.


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