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When I first read the dictionary, I thought it was a long poem about everything.
— Steven Wright
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windsagio Wed, May 26, 2010 10:34:36pm |
To repost something from earlier,
Anybody see that local PDX story about the guy that decided he's be all 'good samaritan' by shooting at some thieves at an AT&T store?
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freetoken Wed, May 26, 2010 10:40:48pm |
Well, this place needs a little bit of ... spice:
World's Best Butt 2010:
Isn't this what the Miss World pageant is for?
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darthstar Wed, May 26, 2010 10:51:12pm |
Rachel's comparison of the Ixtoc (1979 Gulf Oil Well disaster) and today's Deep Horizon one is now available online:
Watch it. Watch it now.
I'm going to bed.
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windsagio Wed, May 26, 2010 10:55:36pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 26, 2010 11:01:03pm |
re: #3 darthstar
Rachel's comparison of the Ixtoc (1979 Gulf Oil Well disaster) and today's Deep Horizon one is now available online:
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]Watch it. Watch it now.
I'm going to bed.
I saved it to watch tomorrow. I need to dream clean tonight.
Adios!
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Girth Wed, May 26, 2010 11:04:29pm |
Hmm....a part of me really wants to go to bed, but another part wants to make another drink and watch Glenn Beck just for fun because I have tomorrow off...
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soap_man Wed, May 26, 2010 11:07:12pm |
What? No American Idol thread? I'm deeply disappointed!
p.s. Sarcasm!
p.s.s. I did watch it.
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BryanS Wed, May 26, 2010 11:09:08pm |
re: #8 soap_man
What? No American Idol thread? I'm deeply disappointed!
p.s. Sarcasm!
p.s.s. I did watch it.
What's this "American Idol" you refer to? /
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 26, 2010 11:09:09pm |
Ishmael Khaldi, who was the deputy consul general for Israel in San Francisco for a number of years, has apparently written a book that's coming out soon.
Very cool guy, Bedouin, was an IDF political analyst. I look forward to the book. Will post more info when I hear more.
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soap_man Wed, May 26, 2010 11:09:54pm |
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windsagio Wed, May 26, 2010 11:09:55pm |
re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist
Only book I'm waiting for is Mark Twain's real autobiography finally coming out.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 26, 2010 11:10:39pm |
re: #12 windsagio
Sounds interesting >>
Family lived in a tent until he was four.
(This is repeated in every news story about him. I hope the book will finally reveal what made them move out of the tent when he was four.)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 26, 2010 11:11:01pm |
re: #14 windsagio
Only book I'm waiting for is Mark Twain's real autobiography finally coming out.
Heads will explode, I'm sure. Twain has that effect on people, even from the grave.
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windsagio Wed, May 26, 2010 11:11:10pm |
re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist
I'd repeat it too >> That's an awesome story.
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windsagio Wed, May 26, 2010 11:11:25pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
yup >> Totally my favorite author!
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Girth Wed, May 26, 2010 11:15:24pm |
I'm suffering from an overwhelming urge to kick Glenn Beck in the nuts. I guess that means I need another drink.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 26, 2010 11:15:38pm |
re: #8 soap_man
What? No American Idol thread? I'm deeply disappointed!
p.s. Sarcasm!
p.s.s. I did watch it.
And all this time I was under the impression that you were a straight Soap_Man.
/I'm not judging, mind you.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 26, 2010 11:16:28pm |
re: #19 Girth
I'm suffering from an overwhelming urge to kick Glenn Beck in the nuts. I guess that means I need another drink.
No sir. That means you are sane, and that you deserve another drink. Cheers.
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Soap_Man Wed, May 26, 2010 11:16:44pm |
re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth
And all this time I was under the impression that you were a straight Soap_Man.
/I'm not judging, mind you.
The Soap Lady forces me to watch a lot of stuff. On the plus side, she watches The Wire without complaint.
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Soap_Man Wed, May 26, 2010 11:20:41pm |
re: #22 Soap_Man
The Soap Lady forces me to watch a lot of stuff. On the plus side, she watches The Wire without complaint.
Speaking of, I'm going to go do that. Watch The Wire I mean.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 26, 2010 11:21:46pm |
re: #19 Girth
I'm suffering from an overwhelming urge to kick Glenn Beck in the nuts. I guess that means I need another drink.
Beck just makes me want to shake him. "Spit it out! Whatever crazy thing it is, stop with the meaningful pauses and say it!"
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 26, 2010 11:22:00pm |
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Girth Wed, May 26, 2010 11:28:53pm |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
Beck just makes me want to shake him. "Spit it out! Whatever crazy thing it is, stop with the meaningful pauses and say it!"
He's the slickest propagandist I've ever seen. He throws so much out at once. He's got producers and researchers that help him present his product. It's quick and almost all of it is out of context. I'd love to produce a show the day after his to break down and refute his shit from the day before.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 26, 2010 11:33:56pm |
re: #26 Girth
I'd love to produce a show the day after his to break down and refute his shit from the day before.
This is the age of the internet, my Lizard. You could easily create a website dedicated to such a task, if you so desired.
You may not start out with the kind of coverage a cable news channel can get, but who knows where such a thing might lead.
With that, I am knocking off. Nite Lizards.
/You could call it "Beck, Counter-Beck".
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Girth Wed, May 26, 2010 11:36:47pm |
re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth
This is the age of the internet, my Lizard. You could easily create a website dedicated to such a task, if you so desired.
You may not start out with the kind of coverage a cable news channel can get, but who knows where such a thing might lead.
With that, I am knocking off. Nite Lizards.
/You could call it "Beck, Counter-Beck".
Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the energy for such an endeavor.
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Girth Wed, May 26, 2010 11:45:52pm |
re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth
The opening line would have to be "Glenn, you ignorant slut."
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 26, 2010 11:57:49pm |
Phyllis Schlafly's kid has outdone Adam Smith.
He has discovered The Invisible Hand of Marriage.
I continue to be amazed at the things my heterosexual marriage can do, all by itself. It holds society together! It creates wealth! It slices! It dices! My husband and I don't have to do anything! The marriage is like a Roomba! It takes care of everything on its own! We just have to let it power up once in a while, by plugging it in and putting it in the Marriage Charger!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 12:00:30am |
And over at FSTDT, Rumpshaker Slim comments:
Those poor gay people will never know the simple joy of being guided by something Andy Schlafly probably made up while high.
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:14:04am |
U.S. General explains why homosexuals should not be in the military
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, May 27, 2010 12:17:17am |
re: #11 windsagio
Nights have been dead lately.
I've been spending more time in nerdier internet locales :D
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:19:48am |
re: #34 WindUpBird
I've been spending more time in nerdier internet locales :D
I'm going to have to blame the porn.
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:22:12am |
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:24:38am |
Now what really sucks is I'm kind of tired, but I can't remember if I took my sleeping pill or not.
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Nimed Thu, May 27, 2010 12:24:47am |
re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Godless abominations.
/
They used to be... But that's all over now. And the truth is nobody wants to hear you bitch about scissors.
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Nimed Thu, May 27, 2010 12:25:27am |
re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Now what really sucks is I'm kind of tired, but I can't remember if I took my sleeping pill or not.
If you're tired anyway, why is that a problem?
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:26:29am |
re: #40 Nimed
If you're tired anyway, why is that a problem?
Because it usually means I'll lie in bed for 2-3 hours but not sleeping before I pass out
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Nimed Thu, May 27, 2010 12:28:04am |
re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Because it usually means I'll lie in bed for 2-3 hours but not sleeping before I pass out
Oh...
That sucks.
And what happens if you risk taking two before going to sleep?
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:30:19am |
re: #42 Nimed
Oh...
That sucks.And what happens if you risk taking two before going to sleep?
I wake up tomorrow afternoon sometime, possible hallucinations, diziness and other bad juju
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Mocking Jay Thu, May 27, 2010 12:38:06am |
re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I wake up tomorrow afternoon sometime, possible hallucinations, diziness and other bad juju
Some people call that "Sunday."
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:39:57am |
re: #44 JasonA
Some people call that "Sunday."
I didn't say I minded the effects, just makes it harder to get to work on time.
///
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 12:43:33am |
Well, attempting to sleep, so I'll leave you with some Sci-Fi reading material.
The Emperor is the collective reincarnation of all the shamans, the psyker-like individuals who guided early mankind with their wisdom and prophetic powers. The entities that would became the four Great Powers of Chaos had not yet formed when the Emperor was born. But even before the birth of the Emperor, as humanity grew and progressed, the Warp began to become increasingly disturbed, and the shamans began to lose their ability to reincarnate - instead, upon dying their souls were being consumed by the creatures of the Warp. Eventually the shamans, unable to reincarnate, would become extinct, and without the shamans to guide them, humanity would fall prey to Chaos. All the shamans of Earth gathered to decide what must be done. In the end they decided to pool their energies by reincarnating in a single body. The thousands of shamans, as one, took poison, and as one, died. A year later the man who would become the Emperor was born. He would be immortal and so no longer need to reincarnate. As he grew older his powers began to manifest. Over many millennia, he traveled among mankind, using his ancient wisdom to help where he could.3
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Nimed Thu, May 27, 2010 12:45:07am |
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ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 2:10:07am |
re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist
Family lived in a tent until he was four.
(This is repeated in every news story about him. I hope the book will finally reveal what made them move out of the tent when he was four.)
Bedouins generally live in tents. If it was an upwardly-mobile family living in Israel, it would be logical that they'd eventually integrate mainstream society.
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ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 2:13:17am |
re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, attempting to sleep, so I'll leave you with some Sci-Fi reading material.
Did people ask for his birth certificate?
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ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 2:17:43am |
I downloaded and watched the most brutal, poisonous and violent film I've ever seen in my life yesterday. It's a masterpiece, but it could seriously damage certain people. You've never heard of it, and probably never will. Don't even ask me for the name. I don't want to be even marginally responsible for you seeing it.
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ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 2:22:18am |
It looks like it's that time again....
Sleep well, Wingnuts.
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Sacred Plants Thu, May 27, 2010 2:29:27am |
Apropos dictionary, is there a ranking of popular lizard login passwords?
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Sacred Plants Thu, May 27, 2010 2:31:02am |
re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Have you tried taking it out of the package in the morning and storing it separately over the day?
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 3:57:12am |
Early morning pi**-shiver moment?
Seeing Pamela Geller on Fox and Friends.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 3:58:00am |
Baking brownies is one of the easiest things you can do in the kitchen
Well, not if you're baking for the Pentagon. The latest viral sensation to hit the Internet is a 26-page document laying out all the rules and regulations you need to follow to bake appropriate treats for our men and women in uniform
[Link: www.npr.org...]
I don't even want to know how big the manual is for making a salad!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 3:58:46am |
re: #56 Taqyia2Me
Early morning pi**-shiver moment?
Seeing Pamela Geller on Fox and Friends.
They had a segment on cleavage and boobs?
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 4:01:32am |
re: #58 sattv4u2
They had a segment on cleavage and boobs?
Heh! It was actually about some kind of 'Leaving Islam' thing or something like that.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 4:05:02am |
re: #60 sattv4u2
Pam is leaving Islam!?!?
wow ,, who knew!
/
Well, there's boob threads here, why not boob segments on the idyet box?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:06:15am |
re: #61 Taqyia2Me
Well, there's boob threads here, why not boob segments on the idyet box?
redundant! ((and that from someone that's been in the "idyet box" industry for going on 30 years now)
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AK-47% Thu, May 27, 2010 4:06:29am |
re: #52 ryannon
I downloaded and watched the most brutal, poisonous and violent film I've ever seen in my life yesterday. It's a masterpiece, but it could seriously damage certain people. You've never heard of it, and probably never will. Don't even ask me for the name. I don't want to be even marginally responsible for you seeing it.
C'mon, at least give us a hint; I am not about to watch it myself (don't go for those kinda flicks), but I might recommend it to a friend who is really into those sort of films. And he is already permanently damaged, not much a mere film could do to him at this point...
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:08:30am |
re: #63 ralphieboy
C'mon, at least give us a hint; I am not about to watch it myself (don't go for those kinda flicks), but I might recommend it to a friend who is really into those sort of films. And he is already permanently damaged, not much a mere film could do to him at this point...
I know. Ryannons 1st 2 sentences in that post DEMANDS that we at least know the title. Why give it that build up then say "nevermind"!!
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 4:09:28am |
re: #62 sattv4u2
redundant! ((and that from someone that's been in the "idyet box" industry for going on 30 years now)
Ah, so you saw the Jon Stewart Show last night too, eh?
/
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Tigger2005 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:10:07am |
Re the Dana Carvey is Darwin thread, great ideas for bumper stickers!
DarWIN not Dar LOSE
I Kick Creationists in the Origin of Their Species!
OK, so those won't do much to improve understanding and advance the dialogue...it's not like it's going anywhere already...
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:12:22am |
ruh roh ,,, Fat B Veggie just logged in
There goes the neighborhood!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:13:46am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:14:09am |
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Tigger2005 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:15:17am |
Fat B Veggie, I thought that was a vegetarian hip hop artist.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:16:02am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:16:41am |
So... I just got up. Celtics lost?
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Tigger2005 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:17:20am |
re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So... I just got up. Celtics lost?
Yeah, the Anglo-Saxons kicked their puny asses.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:17:42am |
re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So... I just got up. Celtics lost?
hummina hummina hummina ,,, ummm,, it was like that year of DALLAS without Bobby ,, it's all a dream
Game last night ?? What game!?!? There's a game Friday night I know of !!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:18:15am |
re: #74 Tigger2005
Yeah, the Anglo-Saxons kicked their puny asses.
You obviously don't watch basketball.
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Tigger2005 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:19:48am |
re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You obviously don't watch basketball.
Actually, I do have a Celtics jacket. But I mostly got it because I like the colors and the logo... I couldn't tell you a single Celtic right now other than Larry Bird...
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:21:09am |
re: #77 Tigger2005
Actually, I do have a Celtics jacket. But I mostly got it because I like the colors and the logo... I couldn't tell you a single Celtic right now other than Larry Bird...
been awhile since you've watched, huh ?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:22:21am |
Larry is probably the reason why I am a Celtic fan today.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 4:22:32am |
re: #78 sattv4u2
been awhile since you've watched, huh ?
What, Bobby Hull isn't skating for the Blackhawks Saturday nite?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 27, 2010 4:23:25am |
Good Morning to Charles' Personal Reptilian Legion!
I go to tour a school for my son with autism today. Wish me luck. This is the one we hope he will attend next year.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:24:49am |
re: #80 Taqyia2Me
What, Bobby Hull isn't skating for the Blackhawks Saturday nite?
Now that the new York Giants have traded for YA Title from the 49ers, I think they have a great shot at the title this year
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:25:27am |
re: #81 rwdflynavy
Good Morning to Charles' Personal Reptilian Legion!
I go to tour a school for my son with autism today. Wish me luck. This is the one we hope he will attend next year.
Bon Chance!
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 4:27:32am |
re: #82 sattv4u2
Now that the new York Giants have traded for YA Title from the 49ers, I think they have a great shot at the title this year
That Bob Gibson kid has quite the fastball!
(must stop aging myself...)
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:30:00am |
re: #85 Taqyia2Me
That Bob Gibson kid has quite the fastball!
(must stop aging myself...)
There's a rumor that Lou Gehrig may have some sort of disease!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:31:15am |
re: #85 Taqyia2Me
I'm thinking of an old Jack Benny cartoon from the fifties. Jack (a mouse, IIRC) goes to his safe. The guard (just a voice from inside) says, "Mr. Benny? Good to see you. Is the War over?"
Jack says, "Why, yes."
Guard says, "I hope we beat the Kaiser."
That's how I remember it anyway. I loved Jack Benny.
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Taqyia2Me Thu, May 27, 2010 4:32:35am |
re: #86 sattv4u2
Heh, I was going to say it took Roger Maris more games to break the Babe's single season home run record!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:35:19am |
From "The Mouse That Jack Built", Warner Brothers
Jack is voiced by Jack Benny
Ed, the Vault Guard is voiced by Mel Blanc
Ed, the Vault Guard: Halt! Who goes there?
Jack: It's me, Ed.
Ed, the Vault Guard: Oh, hello, Mr. Benny. How are things on the outside? We win the war yet?
Jack: Oh, uh... yes. Yes, we did.
Ed, the Vault Guard: That's good. What do you think they'll do with the Kaiser?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:36:10am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:37:32am |
re: #86 sattv4u2
Today, I consider myself the luckiest man in the world. Wait! I was being sarcastic! I must be the un-luckiest man in the world! I have a disease that is so terrible and rare? They're naming it after me!
-Norm McDonald as Lou Gehrig
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 4:38:19am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:39:13am |
re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Today, I consider myself the luckiest man in the world. Wait! I was being sarcastic! I must be the un-luckiest man in the world! I have a disease that is so terrible and rare? They're naming it after me!
-Norm McDonald as Lou Gehrig
heh ,,, forget the comic who said it,, but
Lou Gerhig gets Lou Gerhig disease ,,, shouldn;t he have seen that coming?"
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:41:37am |
re: #93 Jadespring
They should get with the program then.
I;ll get Europe and Africa (afternoon there ) and Asia (early evening) and the Pacific rim (late night) and the West coast (very early a.m) know!
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 4:42:08am |
Holy stiff muscles Batman. My arms aren't working properly.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:43:05am |
re: #96 Jadespring
Holy stiff muscles Batman. My arms aren't working properly.
I don't EVEN want to know what you
A) need them to do
and
B) why they don't
/
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 4:43:41am |
N.Korea threatens to attack S.Korea ships as tempers flare
SEOUL - North Korea vowed Thursday to attack any South Korean ships which violate their disputed border and Seoul's navy staged its own show of strength amid continuing high tension over the sinking of a warship.
Pyongyang's military general staff also scrapped a pact which guards against accidental naval clashes at the flashpoint border, and repeated threats to shut down a joint business project.
Elsewhere in the Yellow Sea, South Korea's navy staged an anti-submarine exercise, its first since Seoul publicly accused Pyongyang of torpedoing one of its warships on March 26 with the loss of 46 lives.
In Seoul, an estimated 10,000 protesters shouted "Kill our enemy!" and whacked images of the North's leader Kim Jong-Il with wooden bars.
Investigators from five countries said last week they found overwhelming evidence that a torpedo attack by a North Korean submarine sank the Cheonan near the border.
I only see bad things happening if this doesn't get diffused.
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 4:43:55am |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 4:44:51am |
re: #94 sattv4u2
heh ,,, forget the comic who said it,, but
Lou Gerhig gets Lou Gerhig disease ,,, shouldn;t he have seen that coming?"
Dennis Leary!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 4:45:35am |
"You can't have it all. Where would you put it?"
-Steven Wright
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 4:46:57am |
re: #97 sattv4u2
I don't EVEN want to know what you
A) need them to do
and
B) why they don't
/
Hee.
I dug up 130 plants and potted them yesterday. Also planted a lilac bush.
Now all I want them to do is type on the computer and lift the coffee cup to my mouth. They're complaining.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:47:49am |
re: #103 Jadespring
Hee.
I dug up 130 plants and potted them yesterday. Also planted a lilac bush.
Now all I want them to do is type on the computer and lift the coffee cup to my mouth. They're complaining.
Your coffee cup and puter are complaining?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:48:45am |
re: #102 Mad Al-Jaffee
"You can't have it all. Where would you put it?"
-Steven Wright
It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it.
-Steven Wright
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 4:50:37am |
re: #104 sattv4u2
Your coffee cup and puter are complaining?
Yes. Everything is complaining this am.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:51:01am |
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand
-S. Wright
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 4:52:46am |
re: #106 Jadespring
Yesterday, I struggled with a break job for about two hours. Two major bolts were frozen... used every bit of strength (and girth) to get the things off. Later (and this morning, for that matter) lifting a glass is difficult.
I'm feelin' ya.
Hope you don't mind.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 4:53:49am |
re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yesterday, I struggled with a break job for about two hours.
Maybe it would have taken less time if you didn't take as many breaks. ;)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 4:57:24am |
Babies don't need a vacation, but I still see them at the beach... it pisses me off! I'll go over to a little baby and say 'What are you doing here? You haven't worked a day in your life!'
Steven Wright
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 4:59:06am |
I play the harmonica. The only way I can play is if I get my car going really fast, and stick it out the window.
Steven Wright
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:59:06am |
re: #109 Mad Al-Jaffee
Maybe it would have taken less time if you didn't take as many breaks. ;)
It's in his union contract!
/
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 4:59:51am |
Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them.
If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
-Stephen Wright
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 5:09:50am |
Good Morning LGF.
David Frum has an interesting opinion piece in today's National Post on how Israel, having previously lost the non-Jewish left, has now lost the Jewish left to what I would call the lib PC buy-in to the Pali victimhood meme.
[Link: fullcomment.nationalpost.com...]
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 5:11:21am |
re: #114 sattv4u2
Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them.
If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
-Stephen Wright
Reminds me of what happened to the hubby yesterday. He gets into the truck to go to town and starts driving. Suddenly he sees the head of a snake pop up by the windshield wiper and look in the windshield. Takes a few seconds to compute that 'yes, he is really seeing a snake'. So he slows down and pulls over to the side of the road. The snake slithers up partly onto the hood and just sits there. Hubby had to get out and pick it off because it was holding onto the wiper with it's tail.
Now we're trying to figure out how the durn thing got up there in the first place.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 5:12:03am |
re: #116 Jadespring
I want these motherfuckin' snakes off of this truck!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 27, 2010 5:12:44am |
re: #115 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
David Frum has an interesting opinion piece in today's National Post on how Israel, having previously lost the non-Jewish left, has now lost the Jewish left to what I would call the lib PC buy-in to the Pali victimhood meme.
[Link: fullcomment.nationalpost.com...]
I saw an old hippy in the airport with a Free Palestine t-shirt. I want to make one that says Free Palestine! (from their folly).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:12:55am |
re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee
I want these motherfuckin' snakes off of this motherfuckin' truck!
say it like you mean it.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:13:51am |
re: #116 Jadespring
Now we're trying to figure out how the durn thing got up there in the first place
factory installed optional equipment?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:14:18am |
re: #118 rwdflynavy
I always thought it'd be cool to have a "Philistine Giants" baseball shirt.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 5:15:28am |
re: #118 rwdflynavy
I saw an old hippy in the airport with a Free Palestine t-shirt. I want to make one that says Free Palestine! (from their folly).
Free Palestine! And Half-price Kashmir!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:16:03am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I always thought it'd be cool to have a "Philistine Giants" baseball shirt.
or
FREE PALESTINE
*and on the back
BECAUSE WHO WOULD PAY ANYTHING FOR IT !?!?!
//
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 5:18:55am |
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 5:20:19am |
re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee
I want these motherfuckin' snakes off of this truck!
LOL. When he told me I grinned and said, "Where's Samuel L. Jackson when you need him." Hubby returned with a blank stare. I guess I'm going to rent the movie to get his pop culture references up to date.
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ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 5:22:28am |
re: #63 ralphieboy
C'mon, at least give us a hint; I am not about to watch it myself (don't go for those kinda flicks), but I might recommend it to a friend who is really into those sort of films. And he is already permanently damaged, not much a mere film could do to him at this point...
re: #64 sattv4u2
I know. Ryannons 1st 2 sentences in that post DEMANDS that we at least know the title. Why give it that build up then say "nevermind"!!
Don't say I didn't warn you.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Available on your friendly neighborhood Bit Torrent or (possibly) NetFlix. Parental Guidance Advised.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 5:22:37am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I always thought it'd be cool to have a "Philistine Giants" baseball shirt.
Gaza Goliaths
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 27, 2010 5:24:22am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 5:24:53am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:24:53am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 27, 2010 5:31:28am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:31:33am |
re: #131 Mad Al-Jaffee
Quetzalcoatls
Looks like my letter rack in the family game of scrabble we had the other night
i made the word "OATS" out of it (there was no room for the "C" for "coats")
:(
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:42:36am |
re: #133 sattv4u2
I hate scrabble. I'm really good at crossword puzzles... but un-scrambling letters to make words... I'm really bad.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:43:06am |
re: #132 rwdflynavy
I got buzzed by some fighter jets on I81 the other day. Was that you?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:44:41am |
re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hate scrabble. I'm really good at crossword puzzles... but un-scrambling letters to make words... I'm really bad.
Me too, but it's one board game my son enjoys playing, so to have some "family time" and pry him away from X Box and puter once in awhile I indulge him and the Mrs
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:45:55am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:46:59am |
re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I got buzzed by some fighter jets on I81 the other day. Was that you?
it was the IRS. They know about that "tip" you took from that customer
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:48:14am |
re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Racist!
Goes without saying
Hey , and NIMED said last night that I'm "starting to be an asshole"
I told him he obviously hasn't known me for the last 4 decades!!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, May 27, 2010 5:48:36am |
re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I got buzzed by some fighter jets on I81 the other day. Was that you?
You know better than that! I can't even buzz you in a helicopter anymore, just flyin a desk now...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:48:39am |
re: #141 sattv4u2
Swear, it felt like they were fifty feet over my head. Was probably a thousand feet, but the first one scared the bejeebus out of me!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 5:49:09am |
re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I got buzzed by some fighter jets on I81 the other day. Was that you?
How did you smoke them?!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:49:15am |
re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Swear, it felt like they were fifty feet over my head. Was probably a thousand feet, but the first one scared the bejeebus out of me!
Air base near there ?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:49:50am |
re: #143 rwdflynavy
You know better than that! I can't even buzz you in a helicopter anymore, just flyin a desk now...
The Air Force or Navy fly through this area on training. The light the candles on those planes too.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:49:50am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 5:51:00am |
re: #146 sattv4u2
Nope. Maybe from Oceana NAS in Va Beach? Hell, I don't know. Might be from Dayton, OH.
Those fighter jet guys do distance a little differently than I do.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 5:52:38am |
re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nope. Maybe from Oceana NAS in Va Beach? Hell, I don't know. Might be from Dayton, OH.
Those fighter jet guys do distance a little differently than I do.
You didn't inhale the chemtrails, did you?
If so, you'll soon be singing the praises of the gov't!
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 27, 2010 5:59:54am |
Sat & FBV .... Good Morning, my Dawgs .... Tough one for the Celts last night. Now everyone thinks they're gonna make history by blowing the 3-0 series lead. Perk will not be suspended for game 6 as one (or both) of last night's technical fouls will be rescinded.
I see a gritty Boston win in game 6 ... at least I hope so!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 6:01:07am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 6:02:55am |
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 27, 2010 6:03:58am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I ain't scared.
But, I ain't playin'!
The Garden will be rocking tomorrow night ... I wish I could be there, but after last week's trip to game 3, the budget is busted for awhile!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:05:28am |
re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can you pick a subject? We seem to be meandering.
Especially me.
If the oil spill doesn't get capped, I am thinking of moving. Not sure if I should go to Oklahoma, Nebraska or North Dakota. Help?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 6:10:35am |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
What oil spill?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:10:37am |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
If the oil spill doesn't get capped, I am thinking of moving. Not sure if I should go to Oklahoma, Nebraska or North Dakota. Help?
I ain't lugging your furniture onto a U-Haul!
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 27, 2010 6:11:49am |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
If the oil spill doesn't get capped, I am thinking of moving. Not sure if I should go to Oklahoma, Nebraska or North Dakota. Help?
Azerbaijan is nice in the spring ...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:12:43am |
re: #160 _RememberTonyC
Azerbaijan is nice in the spring ...
Odd, I think they just opened a new pipeline there. Heh.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:13:28am |
re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can you pick a subject? We seem to be meandering.
Especially me.
Here
[Link: boortz.com...]
The more I see/ hear this guy (N.J. Gov Christie) the more I likey!
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 27, 2010 6:13:36am |
re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar
Odd, I think they just opened a new pipeline there. Heh.
yeah ... they don't waste their oil like those clueless Brits from BP :)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:13:47am |
re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar
Odd, I think they just opened a new pipeline there. Heh.
[Link: www.presstv.ir...]
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Spider Mensch Thu, May 27, 2010 6:14:07am |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
If the oil spill doesn't get capped, I am thinking of moving. Not sure if I should go to Oklahoma, Nebraska or North Dakota. Help?
well I guess that all depends on when you prefer your tornado to hit..morning, afternoon, or evening?.....no joke, I'm sure you know it is a consideration when moving to the flatlands..
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:15:21am |
re: #165 Spider Mensch
well I guess that all depends on when you prefer your tornado to hit..morning, afternoon, or evening?...no joke, I'm sure you know it is a consideration when moving to the flatlands..
My choices are very poor considering I hate the cold.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:17:00am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:18:43am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 6:19:00am |
re: #162 sattv4u2
I have a total man crush on Gov. Christie. And he's fat. Rawr.
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gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 6:19:44am |
re: #143 rwdflynavy
I was at the GaTech/Wake football game this year when a pair of FA-18s made a low pass over the stadium when the national anthem was playing. GT has a long-standing relationship with the Navy and this is a fairly common thing. But this time was different because of how low those guys got. I'm a private pilot and knew those plane were below pattern altititude for piston aircraft. I turned to my son and said "Holy s**t! Those guys are in trouble". And they were:
[Link: www.navytimes.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:20:35am |
re: #172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a total man crush on Gov. Christie. And he's fat. Rawr.
So, you guys couldn't actually spoon. You guys would have to Tablespoon?
////
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 6:22:15am |
re: #173 gamark
Damn, I'll bet that was loud!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 6:23:25am |
re: #162 sattv4u2
He's too flippin honest (or frank) to make national office, but, you gotta love the guy!
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Interesting Times Thu, May 27, 2010 6:25:29am |
re: #126 ryannon
Don't say I didn't warn you.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Video]Available on your friendly neighborhood Bit Torrent or (possibly) NetFlix. Parental Guidance Advised.
No worries - after reading the wiki page, it's just about the last film I'd willingly watch at any time under any circumstances. And for the exact same reason that I studiously avoid Law and Order SVU - there's so much rape, violence, and torture in the real world at large, so why the *hell* would I depress myself further by watching fictional movies about it?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:26:08am |
Odd. Everyone hates my diet soda until there is no soda in the house. Now I have no diet soda. Kinda like when I hated my dad's beer until I was out of beer. Weird.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:28:08am |
re: #177 publicityStunted
I love Mariska Hartigay. That's all. (I don't watch it either)
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:28:14am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
Odd. Everyone hates my diet soda until there is no soda in the house. Now I have no diet soda. Kinda like when I hated my dad's beer until I was out of beer. Weird.
Theres a beer named Tab ??
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:28:44am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 6:29:13am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
Switch to flavored seltzer and you won't have that problem. I haven't drank a regular soda in years.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:29:20am |
re: #180 Cannadian Club Akbar
I love Mariska Hartigay. That's all. (I don't watch it either)
Any female offspring of Jayne Mansfield has my interest!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:31:05am |
re: #183 Mad Al-Jaffee
Switch to flavored seltzer and you won't have that problem. I haven't drank a regular soda in years.
I can't drink the "flavored" ones. Too much "flavor" in them for me
I buy and drink the non-flavored ones and add my own squeeze of lemon or lime to taste, but 9 time out of 10 not even that
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:31:23am |
I buy pink lighters because no one will steal a pink lighter. I should start a diet soda called Urine.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:31:23am |
'Top kill' effort succeeds in blocking oil leak, Coast Guard admiral says
Looks like it's still leaking to me.
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Spider Mensch Thu, May 27, 2010 6:35:05am |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
'Top kill' effort succeeds in blocking oil leak, Coast Guard admiral says
Looks like it's still leaking to me.
I gotta think with what the flow was...there's got to be some residual flow for at least a few weeks until they cement the well off. but any reduction has got to be some sort of postive after all this time.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:35:30am |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
BP is running ads on my radio taking responsibility for the spill. We'll see.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:36:47am |
re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar
I buy pink lighters because no one will steal a pink lighter. I should start a diet soda called Urine.
re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar
I buy pink lighters because no one will steal a pink lighter. I should start a diet soda called Urine.
As long as there aren't a lot of ancient Indian and Chinese people in your household, you should be fine!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 6:37:10am |
re: #185 sattv4u2
I can't drink the "flavored" ones. Too much "flavor" in them for me
I buy and drink the non-flavored ones and add my own squeeze of lemon or lime to taste, but 9 time out of 10 not even that
I drink both kinds, both straight and mixed with fruit juice.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:38:36am |
re: #188 Spider Mensch
Yeah, it seems that they just want to lower the pressure enough so they can pour cement.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:38:36am |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
'Top kill' effort succeeds in blocking oil leak, Coast Guard admiral says
Looks like it's still leaking to me.
If you look closer the coloration of the "leaking' is far different that prior to yesterday
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:39:56am |
re: #193 sattv4u2
If you look closer the coloration of the "leaking' is far different
thatTHAN prior to yesterday
((ggrrr ,, i hate working 12 hour overnights ,, by this time in the am my brain is toats,, well,,, more so than usual, that is))
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:40:26am |
re: #194 sattv4u2
((ggrrr ,, i hate working 12 hour overnights ,, by this time in the am my brain is toats,, well,,, more so than usual, that is))
TOAST ,,,, I SUCK!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:41:10am |
re: #194 sattv4u2
((ggrrr ,, i hate working 12 hour overnights ,, by this time in the am my brain is toats,, well,,, more so than usual, that is))
I'm having eggs and toats for breakfast.
/
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 27, 2010 6:41:12am |
re: #183 Mad Al-Jaffee
Switch to flavored seltzer and you won't have that problem. I haven't drank a regular soda in years.
I love flavored seltzer! I like Faygo cherry and Perrier lime (I always pick up a few cases of Perrier when I am in Canada, it costs about half of that it costs in the US)
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AK-47% Thu, May 27, 2010 6:42:46am |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
If the oil spill doesn't get capped, I am thinking of moving. Not sure if I should go to Oklahoma, Nebraska or North Dakota. Help?
Well, the quote on today's ONT was about the Dictionary, so I guess we should look for a topic listed there...
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AK-47% Thu, May 27, 2010 6:44:26am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
Odd. Everyone hates my diet soda until there is no soda in the house. Now I have no diet soda. Kinda like when I hated my dad's beer until I was out of beer. Weird.
I have learned to do the euro thing of adding fruit juice/syrup to soda water. I buy sodapop for special occasions, kiddie birthdays or the like.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:44:29am |
re: #198 ralphieboy
Well, the quote on today's ONT was about the Dictionary, so I guess we should look for a topic listed there...
Everything I wrote is right out of the dictionary. Just sayin'.
/
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:45:11am |
re: #200 Cannadian Club Akbar
Everything I wrote is right out of the dictionary. Just sayin'.
/
Even TOATS!?!?
//
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AK-47% Thu, May 27, 2010 6:45:22am |
re: #200 Cannadian Club Akbar
Everything I wrote is right out of the dictionary. Just sayin'.
/
Now we need to just narrow it down to which dictionary...
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 6:46:33am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Video from the Gulf appears to be somewhat better as the top kill looks like it may be working. They're busy pumping mud into the damaged wellhead so as to choke off the flow and will continue doing so until they think that they've stemmed the flow - and will then replace the mud with concrete to cap the well. If this works, then it will stem the flow of new oil into the Gulf, but doesn't do anything to deal with the ongoing mess from the millions of gallons that have already flowed into the Gulf.
In the years since the Exxon Valdez, you mean to tell me that scientists and researchers haven't come up with better ways to deal with oil spills than containment booms and skimmers? Is there no better technologies that can clear the oil spills?
Out of disasters come the opportunity for new tech and techniques to deal with such messes. Let's hope that the oil industry gets the lesson and that Congress does the right thing too (and on that I'm not hopeful).
Congress should do what it should have been doing all along in increasing the liability caps for years to account for inflation - and required that not only that skimmers and booms be present in the Gulf, but that BOPs and other shutoff technologies be better tested and required. Moreover, special consideration must be paid to deepwater drilling sites, where the pressures and technologies must be much more robust than surface or near surface sites.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:47:06am |
re: #202 ralphieboy
Now we need to just narrow it down to which dictionary...
Word.
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:47:55am |
re: #203 lawhawk
from above
Engineers have stopped the flow of oil and gas into the Gulf of Mexico from a gushing BP well, the federal government's top oil spill commander, U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, said Thursday mornin
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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Spider Mensch Thu, May 27, 2010 6:48:31am |
re: #192 Killgore Trout
Yeah, it seems that they just want to lower the pressure enough so they can pour cement.
as aside, I guess oil will take a jump in price ( + $1.60 to start today already), obama put a hold on any new drillings for 6 months, which is smart. But we all know the speculators...they'll use this as an excuse to jack the price up for the coming summer ebven though putting a hold on any new drilling today doesn't effect anything realistically on the global oil market for at least 6 months to a year..sigh..but all they need is a hint for them to jack the price per barrell...such a rotten dishonest game they play..and we pay the price.
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Macha Thu, May 27, 2010 6:49:05am |
re: #106 Jadespring
Jadespring, I'm glad to see you here this morning. You spoke of your problem with chipmunks into the chicken feed several days back and I was too late reading the thread to respond that day. Feeding them more probably won't work. I had the same problem with ground squirrels. What happens if you feed them to try and keep them from the chicken feed is that they breed more than usual because of the plentiful food supply, and you get double the number of squirrels, or in your case chipmunks. The only thing I have found that works is to feed my chickens in the a.m. inside the coop where the squirrels can't get to the food. Then remove the food when I open the door to let them out. The girls graze all day, then when I put them back in the evening, they get more laying mash. The squirrels really are a pesky lot, but I can't bring myself to kill them.
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laZardo Thu, May 27, 2010 6:50:42am |
There is nothing so invigorating as reading Isaac Asimov's "The Last Question" as presented on a 4chan thread.
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gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 6:51:49am |
re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not just loud, but physically jarring.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 6:51:49am |
re: #206 Spider Mensch
as aside, I guess oil will take a jump in price ( + $1.60 to start today already), obama put a hold on any new drillings for 6 months, which is smart. But we all know the speculators...they'll use this as an excuse to jack the price up for the coming summer ebven though putting a hold on any new drilling today doesn't effect anything realistically on the global oil market for at least 6 months to a year..sigh..but all they need is a hint for them to jack the price per barrell...such a rotten dishonest game they play..and we pay the price.
Incorrect, imho
What was 'lost' there has not affected the price at all. In fact, prices at the pump have been falling since this started
What DOES affect the price (seasonally) is refineries having to switch from 'winter blends" to "summer bliends" and back. They can't store old/ unused seasonal stuff beyond several months, so that goes back to production.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 6:51:52am |
re: #199 ralphieboy
I have learned to do the euro thing of adding fruit juice/syrup to soda water. I buy sodapop for special occasions, kiddie birthdays or the like.
I got into seltzer after coming home from a vacation in Austria and Germany where they drink a lot of carbonated mineral water. I started buying fancy imported mineral water and realized that seltzer tasted about the same, for a fraction of the price. I've had maybe 4-5 Cokes or Pepsis or Sprites since then.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 27, 2010 6:52:13am |
Good morning Lizards! Warm one today in Philadelphia, 84F at 8am and expected to get a wee bit warmer by this afternoon. Good for cold-blooded lizard activity, but remember to seek shade in the afternoon.
Pet peeve time. I often view opinions expressing simple solutions with a highly critical eye since almost without exception one or more simplifications are being made that do not reflect reality. And from that, you can conclude that the actual situation is probably quite complex in its interactions and the suggested solution will simply not work, or will rapidly cause chaos and unintended consequences as the intended effect is not achieved, but instead something entirely different.
With that I turn my critical eye to the generic "oil companies" target of the last few threads. (And I sound off from this based on working for an "oil company" for the last ten years.)
First, some differentiation should be made about the operations of an "oil company". Some drill for oil, some refine the crude into other products, and some retail these products to consumers, e.g. gasoline. Some do all three, some do fewer.
Second, profitability of the different operational segments will vary due to other constraints.
Drilling profitability is probably heavily dependent on the current market price of crude oil. Plus my limited knowledge indicates that oil well (and field) productivity takes time to ramp up; e.g. it's an investment where you pour money into making the hole and hope that enough oil is gotten out at enough of a margin to pay back the cost (plus opportunity cost of investing that money in something else.)
Refining profitability is heavily dependent on margins (known in the industry as "crack spread"). Essentially cost of barrel of crude (variable) + cost to break it down (generally fixed) compared to the sale price of the various products made (gasoline, propylene, etc. etc.) Fixed costs are high, so a period where crude oil price is going up while product sale prices are slow to catch up produce very narrow (and possibly negative) margins. Scale is important here, a few years ago a difference of $0.01 in margin equated to $60 million in gross income for the company I worked for. Scale that to a big refiner like Exxon or BP and that's where the billions come from.
I don't know the retail side well, but I will make a couple of comments. The main driver there is refinery capacity - only so much crude oil can be processed at a time. Depending on what is profitable the refineries might well prefer making something else rather than unleaded gasoline (such as aviation grade fuel). Therefore, less gasoline for the market, and regular laws of supply and demand affect the price of gasoline. And this industry runs on margins as well - price curve chases the production cost curve and they vary back and forth (crude oil cost + fixed cost again).
Finally, a quick comment on the industry being perceived as monopolistic. Couple reasons for this. One, it's capital intensive to get into. A new refinery is expensive and would take years of good margins to recover the construction cost. Second, NIMBY - no one wants to license new refineries to be built in the US. They need heavy duty transportation access to get materials (oil) in and products out. That generally means coastal/port access, and that's valuable real estate that is generally already developed.
Sorry about the book length. Thanks to those willing to read this far this early in the morning. :)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 6:53:52am |
re: #208 laZardo
There is nothing so invigorating as reading Isaac Asimov's "The Last Question" as presented on a 4chan thread.
I have autographed copies of the Foundation trilogy, but they're paperbacks. I think I only read the first one.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:55:50am |
re: #171 Cannadian Club Akbar
Someone meant to type Honcho's but missed a letter and typed Honcos. It is a running joke. That's all. Kinda like Stan=Satan.
It's even funnier than that.
in the same e-mail, the person referred to LGF'ers as 'self-subservient", whatever the heck that was supposed to mean.
Here's the text of the e-mail in all its glory (it's in VOLUME 2 of the Cookbook, in the ROFLMAO section! Get your very own copy here! and support LGF & Soldier's Angels)
you are lying thru your teeth if you want to deny those pictures as "staged"..how is it staged ? just because that shows how cannibal, uncrultured, self subservient monstrous idiots you are.
..may yo and the rest of your sickening zionist honcos rot
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Spider Mensch Thu, May 27, 2010 6:56:09am |
re: #210 sattv4u2
Incorrect, imho
What was 'lost' there has not affected the price at all. In fact, prices at the pump have been falling since this started
What DOES affect the price (seasonally) is refineries having to switch from 'winter blends" to "summer bliends" and back. They can't store old/ unused seasonal stuff beyond several months, so that goes back to production.
oh, your correct on your assessment..and also right about the price has been low...all that feeds into my suspicious nature about the oil business and their ability to create reasons to increase profits...Obama's 6 month hold on future new drillings just seems to be the perfect excuse for a price increase, even though it really doesn't warrant one...but I hope you are the one's whose assessment is correct...I just don't trust anyone these days :(
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 6:56:49am |
re: #210 sattv4u2
Incorrect, imho
What was 'lost' there has not affected the price at all. In fact, prices at the pump have been falling since this started
What DOES affect the price (seasonally) is refineries having to switch from 'winter blends" to "summer bliends" and back. They can't store old/ unused seasonal stuff beyond several months, so that goes back to production.
[Link: www.fuelgaugereport.com...]
Whole sale and crude prices have dropped while consumer prices have risen.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 6:56:56am |
re: #214 reine.de.tout
Was "honchos" supposed to be an insult? I thought honcho was like a leader, a tough guy. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:57:32am |
re: #214 reine.de.tout
Not sure who wrote that, but I bet they drink more than me!!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 27, 2010 6:58:16am |
re: #214 reine.de.tout
Got my copies of both cookbooks. Just haven't taken the opportunity to cook any of the recipes yet. :(
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 6:58:30am |
Whoo-hoo! How to create ' new jobs' 101....
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 6:58:53am |
Good headline on Wonkette today:
Somewhere, Someone Is Thinking Up A Nonsensical Sex Act And Calling It ‘Top Kill’
They're mostly assholes at that site, but often pretty funny.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:58:54am |
re: #217 Mad Al-Jaffee
Was "honchos" supposed to be an insult? I thought honcho was like a leader, a tough guy. Maybe I'm wrong.
"Head Honcho" is a leader.
I think a 'honcho' is just a person.
I think the entire email was intended to be an insult. And it might have been, except it didn't make any sense.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:59:08am |
re: #219 oaktree
Got my copies of both cookbooks. Just haven't taken the opportunity to cook any of the recipes yet. :(
I hope you enjoy them!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 6:59:16am |
re: #219 oaktree
Got my copies of both cookbooks. Just haven't taken the opportunity to cook any of the recipes yet. :(
I'll help:
Pour cereal in bowl.
Add milk.
Enjoy.
//
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:59:20am |
re: #214 reine.de.tout
How many Cookbooks have sold so far?
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 6:59:42am |
re: #217 Mad Al-Jaffee
No second ' h '. We are all Honcos.
:)
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 6:59:50am |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'll help:
Pour cereal in bowl.
Add milk.
Enjoy.
//
My kinda recipe!
Surely you will submit that for volume 3?
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Jadespring Thu, May 27, 2010 7:00:30am |
re: #207 Macha
Thanks for the suggestion. Putting some feed out hasn't stopped them from going inside anyways. They don't actually get at the actual feeder because it hangs from the ceiling but scavenge the bits that the chickens drop onto the floor so I'm not sure if taking the feeder away would do much good.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:01:02am |
re: #216 Locker
[Link: www.fuelgaugereport.com...]
Whole sale and crude prices have dropped while consumer prices have risen.
Do you even look at what you link too before posting it?
From the chart (for regular)
1 Month ago 2.858
1 Week ago 2.840
Yesterday 2.777
Current 2,759
Last week I filled up at 2.76
Last night, same station, 2.59
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:01:21am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:01:29am |
re: #227 reine.de.tout
My kinda recipe!
Surely you will submit that for volume 3?
Will there be an Advanced Cooking copy? I wanna add oatmeal.
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:02:35am |
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:02:55am |
re: #230 Jadespring
Thanks for the suggestion. Putting some feed out hasn't stopped them from going inside anyways. They don't actually get at the actual feeder because it hangs from the ceiling but scavenge the bits that the chickens drop onto the floor so I'm not sure if taking the feeder away would do much good.
Well.. you could get a terrier. They LOVE LOVE LOVE to chase and a squirrel is right in their wheelhouse.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:03:34am |
re: #225 Killgore Trout
How many Cookbooks have sold so far?
39 have sold.
And with many many thanks and much appreciation for those who have purchased a copy, it's been like pulling teeth to make a sale!
The price is a mere $16.35, plus about $4 for shipping. Very reasonably priced, IMO, for the book with its recipes and other great features, and a "profit" of $5 to be split between LGF and Soldier's Angels.
With all the wonderful features Charles has here, the price of the book to help support LGF is very small. Jaunte's artwork is great as is Cato's poem on the back cover, and Killgore did a thorough job with his Gardening Section. Please - consider buying one or both!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 7:03:49am |
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:04:44am |
re: #236 reine.de.tout
Hey, do I get a bulk discount if I buy 10,000 copies?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:04:54am |
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:05:01am |
re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar
Want a lazy healthy yummy oatmeal thing?
Take six cups of water in a pot, and dump a cup and a half of steel cut oats ( Irish style/ not instant) into the pot with it. Turn on the heat and boil it for one minute. Add a quarter cup of dried cherries, turn off the heat, and cover the pot. Go to bed.
Next morning, cook on low for ten minutes. Stir in some vanilla, and serve six hungry risers.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:05:07am |
re: #236 reine.de.tout
39 have sold.
And with many many thanks and much appreciation for those who have purchased a copy, it's been like pulling teeth to make a sale!
The price is a mere $16.35, plus about $4 for shipping. Very reasonably priced, IMO, for the book with its recipes and other great features, and a "profit" of $5 to be split between LGF and Soldier's Angels.
With all the wonderful features Charles has here, the price of the book to help support LGF is very small. Jaunte's artwork is great as is Cato's poem on the back cover, and Killgore did a thorough job with his Gardening Section. Please - consider buying one or both!
How many copies did you sell of the first LGF cookbook?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:05:22am |
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 27, 2010 7:06:09am |
Hello, folks.
The caffeine IV tap is in place, I should be up to par around lunchtime.
What's the good word?
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:06:52am |
re: #237 Mad Al-Jaffee
I was time-constrained this morning, started where I started, but I should'a figured.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:07:04am |
re: #241 tradewind
Or, cook it in Apple Juice and add cinnamon and apple chunks.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:08:11am |
re: #239 cliffster
Hey, do I get a bulk discount if I buy 10,000 copies?
Whoa!
10,000 copies of the cookbook would be $163,500.
At cost, it would be - $101,000.
If you have that kind of money, save yourself $50,000 and just donate $50,000 directly to LGF.
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laZardo Thu, May 27, 2010 7:08:36am |
re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Apple has become the biggest tech company in the world! Hooray Apple!
And I still don't want an iPad! :D
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 7:08:45am |
re: #241 tradewind
I usually have the instant kind. Very easy to make, and pretty good for you. One packet, and some fruit and coffee, is usually enough for a weekday breakfast for me.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:08:51am |
re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I paid 2.45 yesterday.
According to LOCKER,, you paid a lot less last week/ a month ago!!
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:09:04am |
re: #242 Walter L. Newton
How many copies did you sell of the first LGF cookbook?
At least 100 copies, maybe 5 or 6 more than that.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 27, 2010 7:09:29am |
re: #241 tradewind
Want a lazy healthy yummy oatmeal thing?
Take six cups of water in a pot, and dump a cup and a half of steel cut oats ( Irish style/ not instant) into the pot with it. Turn on the heat and boil it for one minute. Add a quarter cup of dried cherries, turn off the heat, and cover the pot. Go to bed.
Next morning, cook on low for ten minutes. Stir in some vanilla, and serve six hungry risers.
I might give that a shot since I have the Irish Style oats due to a purchasing accident (grabbed the wrong container in Trader Joe's) and the dried cherries and vanilla. Plus I need to eat a hearty breakfast more often.
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:09:30am |
re: #236 reine.de.tout
39 have sold.
And with many many thanks and much appreciation for those who have purchased a copy, it's been like pulling teeth to make a sale!
The price is a mere $16.35, plus about $4 for shipping. Very reasonably priced, IMO, for the book with its recipes and other great features, and a "profit" of $5 to be split between LGF and Soldier's Angels.
With all the wonderful features Charles has here, the price of the book to help support LGF is very small. Jaunte's artwork is great as is Cato's poem on the back cover, and Killgore did a thorough job with his Gardening Section. Please - consider buying one or both!
Here I'll help.
Just bought both of them and I didn't have a Lulu account before I started. Took me 3 minutes and 53 seconds to order both books, create an account, pick shipping, pay and be done.
Let's make it happen people, skip a meal at Chili's and help out the community.
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:09:51am |
re: #249 Mad Al-Jaffee
The advantage of the other way is that you can make enough for days at a time.... it keeps in the frig for a week covered.
But instant has its place, yes.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:09:54am |
re: #253 Locker
Here I'll help.
Just bought both of them and I didn't have a Lulu account before I started. Took me 3 minutes and 53 seconds to order both books, create an account, pick shipping, pay and be done.
Let's make it happen people, skip a meal at Chili's and help out the community.
{Locker}
thank you!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:10:27am |
re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Apple has become the biggest tech company in the world! Hooray Apple!
At least click it to get the Headline....
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:10:33am |
re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I paid 2.45 yesterday.
I paid $3.29 last week...so I get to pay about $16 a tank more than you. Lucky me...though I did see one Arco with gas at $2.95 yesterday, so I'll be paying closer to $3 next time.
Good morning, everyone. No news is good news on the Top Kill, I guess...fingers cramped from being crossed in my sleep.
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:10:35am |
re: #252 oaktree
It keeps well. Can be quicker than the quick kind, actually. Just make it up and nuke it each morning.
'Cept I like it cold.
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:10:41am |
re: #250 sattv4u2
According to LOCKER,, you paid a lot less last week/ a month ago!!
Did you earn your douchebag license all on your own or did you get financial aid?
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:11:48am |
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:11:49am |
re: #258 darthstar
' They ' are reporting tentative success. Hopefully they gave us very low expectations so that there would be big relief when it worked.
Not betting the farm yet.
Beaches at Destin and S. Walton still clean as a whistle, though...
poor LA.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:12:29am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:13:15am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:13:27am |
re: #260 Locker
Did you earn your douchebag license all on your own or did you get financial aid?
YOU make a claim thats not supported by your own link and I'M a douchebag!
cool!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:13:56am |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd say it's simply a talent.
/
and I don't even have to work at it!
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:14:18am |
re: #262 tradewind
' They ' are reporting tentative success. Hopefully they gave us very low expectations so that there would be big relief when it worked.
Not betting the farm yet.
Beaches at Destin and S. Walton still clean as a whistle, though...
poor LA.
Those clean beaches in Florida (and actually, Mississippi and Alabama, as well) can, I think, be taken as an indication that they are doing a fairly good job of getting that surface oil dispersed, burned or otherwise picked up.
Meanwhile, no word yet on whether the Corps of Engineers has finished their environmental impact study on sand berms and issued the permits for Louisiana to build them. Which Louisiana has already started doing, to heck with the permits. I'm not sure how much help it's gonna be at this point, though.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:14:27am |
re: #262 tradewind
' They ' are reporting tentative success. Hopefully they gave us very low expectations so that there would be big relief when it worked.
Not betting the farm yet.
Beaches at Destin and S. Walton still clean as a whistle, though...
poor LA.
If it did work, there is a lot to thank President Obama for, it was a good idea on his part.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 7:14:45am |
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laZardo Thu, May 27, 2010 7:14:56am |
re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At least click it to get the Headline...
...oh.
...
I have the schadenfreudish urge to buy an iPad now.
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:15:10am |
re: #265 sattv4u2
YOU make a claim thats not supported by your own link and I'M a douchebag!
cool!
Gee can you scroll down half a fucking page and look at the chart with the pretty colored lines on it. I know it's a chore to turn the wheel 10 notches and all but still....
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:15:18am |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd say it's simply a talent.
/
(hehehehe ,,,,, Locker updinged you on this,,, thinking that you're slamming ME !!,,,,,,ssshhhhhhh!! )
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:15:27am |
re: #209 gamark
Not just loud, but physically jarring.
Maybe it's a brown noise. 'Cause it scares the shit out of me.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 7:15:28am |
re: #255 tradewind
The advantage of the other way is that you can make enough for days at a time... it keeps in the frig for a week covered.
But instant has its place, yes.
I'll have to try it some time, but I might get tired of oatmeal every day.
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:15:28am |
re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Apple has become the biggest tech company in the world! Hooray Apple!
Fuck Apple. They charged me 483 dollars to fix the hinge on my wife's Macbook Air a week ago, but returned it 'good as new' (i.e. new hard drive as well, so the Microsoft office I got for her from my last company went with the old drive). Two nights ago, it started 'shutting down'...you could click 'cancel' and keep working, but five minutes later it tried again...eventually, we went to bed and did shut it down. Damn thing wouldn't power up in the morning. Yesterday afternoon, it powered up! Yay! Only the mouse is in 'right-click' mode and the keyboard doesn't work. I'm about to put a dent in their profit margin...I hope it doesn't "void their warranty"...fuckers.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:15:34am |
re: #267 reine.de.tout
Those clean beaches in Florida (and actually, Mississippi and Alabama, as well) can, I think, be taken as an indication that they are doing a fairly good job of getting that surface oil dispersed, burned or otherwise picked up.
Meanwhile, no word yet on whether the Corps of Engineers has finished their environmental impact study on sand berms and issued the permits for Louisiana to build them. Which Louisiana has already started doing, to heck with the permits. I'm not sure how much help it's gonna be at this point, though.
Maybe they should build the berms out of school busses?
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:16:14am |
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:17:26am |
re: #268 Walter L. Newton
I know! His nights of sitting up pouring over charts and research with the BP execs may have finally paid off......
/and they said he was spending time at fund raisers, day spas, and golfing!/
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:17:46am |
re: #277 tradewind
Good grief... in the States?
You wuz robbed.
This is the San Francisco Bay Area...My brother refers to it as being like "living in an airport"...you just get used to paying more for pretty much everything.
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:18:51am |
re: #279 darthstar
This is the San Francisco Bay Area...My brother refers to it as being like "living in an airport"...you just get used to paying more for pretty much everything.
The cost of regular unleaded has risen here as well over the last six months about .30 cents. Sacramento, not Bay Area but still it is California.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:01am |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
Maybe they should build the berms out of school busses?
Gotta get those permits, first.
/
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:21am |
re: #253 Locker
Here I'll help.
Just bought both of them and I didn't have a Lulu account before I started. Took me 3 minutes and 53 seconds to order both books, create an account, pick shipping, pay and be done.
Let's make it happen people, skip a meal at Chili's and help out the community.
Thank you very much!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:25am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:32am |
re: #271 Locker
Gee can you scroll down half a fucking page and look at the chart with the pretty colored lines on it. I know it's a chore to turn the wheel 10 notches and all but still...
You're chart is year to year (5/01/09 to 5/01/10)
When the chart includes 05/01/10 - 05/30/10 your "pretty colors" will dip
The "trend" recently is DOWN, not UP
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laZardo Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:44am |
re: #275 darthstar
Fuck Apple. They charged me 483 dollars to fix the hinge on my wife's Macbook Air a week ago, but returned it 'good as new' (i.e. new hard drive as well, so the Microsoft office I got for her from my last company went with the old drive). Two nights ago, it started 'shutting down'...you could click 'cancel' and keep working, but five minutes later it tried again...eventually, we went to bed and did shut it down. Damn thing wouldn't power up in the morning. Yesterday afternoon, it powered up! Yay! Only the mouse is in 'right-click' mode and the keyboard doesn't work. I'm about to put a dent in their profit margin...I hope it doesn't "void their warranty"...fuckers.
My 6-year-old Dell Inspiron 9100 is still going, having been through $500-ish of replacement parts (not bad given that my whole family chucked in near $2000 to get it back in '04.)
I intend to replace it with either a desktop-for-home/netbook-for-travel or a Macbook.
Preferably the latter.
...I'm sorry.
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:57am |
re: #267 reine.de.tout
It is awful to think about. Even with a personal interest in the beaches on the gulf, I would rather have it hit them than the LA wetlands..... easier to clean off a beach than try to wring out a sponge. The consequences for the wetlands could be horrific and permanent. I hope not.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:19:59am |
re: #279 darthstar
This is the San Francisco Bay Area...My brother refers to it as being like "living in an airport"...you just get used to paying more for pretty much everything.
Paid 2.49 up here in the mountains, and it's about 10 cents cheaper just 30 miles down the hill in the Denver area.
You're evidently use to getting screwed too!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:20:04am |
And on that note, the long drive home awaits
Toodles
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:21:43am |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
Ouch. That thought's been nagin at me as well.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:21:48am |
Top kill thingy appears to be working.
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:21:57am |
re: #284 sattv4u2
You're chart is year to year (5/01/09 to 5/01/10)
When the chart includes 05/01/10 - 05/30/10 your "pretty colors" will dip
The "trend" recently is DOWN, not UP
AHAHAHAHA! God damn man you seriously have no problem with being a bald faced lying troll do you?
FIRST you bagged on me, lie about the numbers and say that my link doesn't support what I said.
NOW you say the chart WILL dip because SATTV4U2 says the "trend" is recently down with NO reference at all.
Please oh swami of the future and all things gas price related... can you tell me who's going to win the world cup because I can make some serious money at the sports book.
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:22:23am |
re: #247 reine.de.tout
Whoa!
10,000 copies of the cookbook would be $163,500.
At cost, it would be - $101,000.If you have that kind of money, save yourself $50,000 and just donate $50,000 directly to LGF.
Ok you talked me down from the cliff. Ordered just the one. I hope mine has one of the five golden tickets in it!
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 7:22:33am |
Bandleader Jamal Al-Bayouk said he and his musicians would not risk performing in the southern Gaza Strip any more after militant Islamists threatened to kill them at a wedding party.They had just finished performing east of Khan Younis when armed militants burst in, set fire to $40,000 worth of instruments and fired shots between the legs of band members.
"One gunman told another: Don't shoot between the legs. Shoot at the legs!" Bayouk told Reuters.
"Another told me: Prepare for death, you immoral infidel," the 49-year-old man said, at the Gaza shop where he fixes musical instruments and rents sound systems.
He said several other singers and members of bands had been beaten up by al-Qaeda style jihadists who disapprove of their music and added that in his opinion there could be further attacks as summer begins and people hold weddings and parties.
"I am afraid and I am not optimistic but I will continue because there are 20 families depending on my profession," Bayouk said.
The threat comes from Salafi jihadists whose agenda of global holy war against the West is against the nationalist goals of Gaza's rulers Hamas, an Islamist movement which denies seeking to create a theocracy in the enclave.
Hamas has occasionally cracked down with its own version of the morality police but the Islamic terror group continues to focus on its corrupt smuggling activities so as to fund its terror operations and infrastructure in its ongoing conflict with Israel.
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:22:42am |
re: #285 laZardo
My 6-year-old Dell Inspiron 9100 is still going, having been through $500-ish of replacement parts (not bad given that my whole family chucked in near $2000 to get it back in '04.)
I intend to replace it with either a desktop-for-home/netbook-for-travel or a Macbook.
Preferably the latter.
...I'm sorry.
I picked up a netbook at Costco a month ago...it's pretty good. With GoogleDocs, you don't really need Microsoft Office. Getting used to the smaller keyboard is a small hassle, but one could hook it up to a regular monitor and keyboard/mouse and use it as a desktop as well.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:23:04am |
re: #292 Locker
AHAHAHAHA! God damn man you seriously have no problem with being a bald faced lying troll do you?
FIRST you bagged on me, lie about the numbers and say that my link doesn't support what I said.
NOW you say the chart WILL dip because SATTV4U2 says the "trend" is recently down with NO reference at all.
Please oh swami of the future and all things gas price related... can you tell me who's going to win the world cup because I can make some serious money at the sports book.
Papua New Guinea
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 7:23:16am |
"Right wing hack" Kirsten Powers from the pages of today's New York Post ...
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
I take no pleasure from the horrible destruction in the Gulf of Mexico. I wish it had never happened and I hope it is rectified soon.
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Locker Thu, May 27, 2010 7:23:51am |
Ok the allotted time for beating on trolls has, unfortunately, ended and I have to prep for me code review. Can't wait to get the cookbook, thanks to all involved.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:24:13am |
re: #292 Locker
FIRST you bagged on me, lie about the numbers and say that my link doesn't support what I said.
again,, from your link
1 Month ago 2.858
1 Week ago 2.840
Yesterday 2.777
Current 2.759
2.759 is LESS than 2.858
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laZardo Thu, May 27, 2010 7:24:18am |
re: #296 darthstar
I picked up a netbook at Costco a month ago...it's pretty good. With GoogleDocs, you don't really need Microsoft Office. Getting used to the smaller keyboard is a small hassle, but one could hook it up to a regular monitor and keyboard/mouse and use it as a desktop as well.
I do enjoy gaming on PC sometimes. Unfortunately everything after 2006-7 requires Shader Model 3.0, which is just out of my graphics card's reach. D:
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:25:39am |
re: #294 cliffster
Ok you talked me down from the cliff. Ordered just the one. I hope mine has one of the five golden tickets in it!
But your name is cliff! FORTY! FORTY COOKBOOKS! BWAHAHAHAHAAA!
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gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26:26am |
re: #273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And my seats are 9 rows off the field. I think the guys at the top of the endzone could have hit the planes with a rock.
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26:33am |
re: #295 lawhawk
"One gunman told another: Don't shoot between the legs.
Pretty observant of him to notice that there was nothing there to hit./
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:26:59am |
re: #304 darthstar
But your name is cliff! FORTY! FORTY COOKBOOKS! BWAHAHAHAHAAA!
talk cliff down from the cliff... see what I did there?
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 7:27:22am |
re: #302 sattv4u2
FIRST you bagged on me, lie about the numbers and say that my link doesn't support what I said.
again,, from your link
1 Month ago 2.858
1 Week ago 2.840
Yesterday 2.777
Current 2.7592.759 is LESS than 2.858
when did you become a troll? i didn't get the memo on that ...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:28:45am |
re: #305 gamark
And my seats are 9 rows off the field. I think the guys at the top of the endzone could have hit the planes with a rock.
I hear the planes'll hit back...
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:29:02am |
re: #292 Locker
re: #302 sattv4u2
FIRST you bagged on me, lie about the numbers and say that my link doesn't support what I said.
again,, from your link
1 Month ago 2.858
1 Week ago 2.840
Yesterday 2.777
Current 2.7592.759 is LESS than 2.858
Oh , and also from your link
the highest average recorded price for regular unleaded was 4.114 on 7/17/2008
again, the current 2.759 is lower than that
SO ,,, if your "pretty color chart" had gone back FURTHRER than the 5/01/09 that it shows, you would have seen that MUCH higher the year previous,, MEANING ,, it trended (wait for it ) DOWN
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:29:21am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:29:56am |
re: #309 _remembertonyc
when did you become a troll? i didn't get the memo on that ...
Last night I was told i'm "becoming an asshole". I told the poster he obviously hasn't known me for the last 4 decades!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 7:30:57am |
Okay ,, I gotta scoot before my boss thinks I'm milking overtime!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:31:01am |
re: #312 darthstar
Côte d'Ivoire - and they're the best African team.
Er... Dark, I don't follow sports of any sort, the Papua New Guinea comment was meant to be a joke... I didn't even think they had a team (is that what you call them... team?)
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 7:31:38am |
Save the fussin' for the overnights, it's way too early...
Gotta run.... have a great day, and please... do nothing to disrupt the top kill juju!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 7:32:19am |
re: #295 lawhawk
Hamas has occasionally cracked down with its own version of the morality police but the Islamic terror group continues to focus on its corrupt smuggling activities so as to fund its terror operations and infrastructure in its ongoing conflict with Israel.
That doesn't sound like it was Hamas that did the shooting. It sounds like some of the Al-Qaeda aligned terrorists that have infiltrated Gaza.
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 7:34:59am |
re: #317 Dark_Falcon
If you read further down in the article, you'll note that the al Qaeda Salafists include many who were previously part of Hamas or were trained by Hamas:
They say Hamas is reaping the harvest it sowed: many current members of the Jihadist Salafi factions were once trained activists of Hamas' armed wing, Izz el-Deen Al-Qassam Brigades.
Trained activists in Hamas armed wing? That's euphemistic for terrorist.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:35:09am |
re: #316 tradewind
Save the fussin' for the overnights, it's way too early...
Gotta run... have a great day, and please... do nothing to disrupt the top kill juju!
I recommend this book... World Peace Diet... will solve everything...
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:35:27am |
Good morning all.. Hey Walter...how was the Lost finale? My wife said it made her very sad.
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gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 7:36:04am |
re: #310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You don't want to be on the receiving end of that!
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pharmmajor Thu, May 27, 2010 7:36:58am |
the Kentucky Libertarian Party is looking for a candidate to run against Rand Paul, saying that Paul does not represent libertarian values.
[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:37:23am |
re: #320 PT Barnum
Good morning all.. Hey Walter...how was the Lost finale? My wife said it made her very sad.
(I have a stock answer, reposted for you... )
First off, running through a number of major LOST blogs and reviews, the ending was generally loved by most fans. I'd say about 90 percent of what I read were positive, intelligent, thought out comments about the over all show and the finale. Of course the percentages could change later, but I suspect that anyone who stuck with this show for 6 seasons worth of episodes probably had most of their "questions" answered or were satisfied by the plot ending.
I wasn't... not in a "they fucked me over" or "I wasted six years of watching" type of not satisfied, but the "dharmic" themed last 10 minutes was not my cup of tea. This show was a lot of sci-fi themes, a lot of mythological themes but it mainly stayed away from overtly spiritual or religious themes.
But, the flip side of that, it's wasn't a copout or just some last minute (or last season) way to wrap up the story. If you were a real fan, you will see where a lot of the "moving on" concepts were foreshadowed even in season one (The Whispers). And as season 6 advanced this past year, more clues were dropped.
Yes, the alternate time line was actually discovered to be one of the "circles" on the dharma styled wheel of life, and it was a holding place for all our characters as they came to grips with their lives, and then, when all the interconnected pieces of there lives finally were resolved, they were ready to "cash in" their karma and move on to the next level. A sort of "karma green room."
Too much spiritual story line thrown in at the end for my total liking. But the character resolves, the full circle, the extremely strong character based writing and story line, it had me in tears during the last episode. Nothing could have happened the way it did if the writers hadn't carefully crafted a wonderful character based story, as each group of characters realized their destiny, you could see how the writers and producers knew just where they were going from early on, and how wonderfully they set up these situations in early seasons in order to have the dove-tailed conclusions of each of the major paired couples.
If you like love stories, if you like strong character based writing, LOST gave you some of the most fulfilling character arcs I've ever seen.
If you care more about sci-fi, mythology and answers to every little detail, you may not of got a totally fulfilling ending, but you still got a damn good one.
Bottom line, they said they knew where they were going, and that was evident by the end, whether you were totally satisfied or not, they kept their promises, which cannot be said for too many episodic TV shows.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:37:36am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:38:14am |
re: #322 pharmmajor
Okay. That's funny as hell.
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:39:12am |
Some people really get (got) into Lost. Not namin' any names..
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 7:39:17am |
re: #318 lawhawk
If you read further down in the article, you'll note that the al Qaeda Salafists include many who were previously part of Hamas or were trained by Hamas:
Trained activists in Hamas armed wing? That's euphemistic for terrorist.
Point taken. Please excuse my error.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:39:51am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:40:46am |
re: #326 cliffster
Some people really get (got) into Lost. Not namin' any names..
Fifteen million unique viewers for the finale... extremely good numbers.
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 7:41:13am |
re: #313 sattv4u2
Last night I was told i'm "becoming an asshole". I told the poster he obviously hasn't known me for the last 4 decades!
i was called an asshole yesterday too ... it really hurt my feelings
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:41:53am |
re: #326 cliffster
Some people really get (got) into Lost. Not namin' any names..
Yes, but now that it's over, they've got to reintegrate with the rest of society...that's going to be tricky.
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pharmmajor Thu, May 27, 2010 7:42:06am |
re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Okay. That's funny as hell.
Oh come on. Ron and Rand Paul, like Glenn Beck, are Libertarians in name only. They just use it as a cover to espouse their right-wing bullshit.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:42:10am |
Lady does an Erik Son of whoever with a census worker and finds out the hard way that it's not such a good idea.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:42:38am |
re: #331 darthstar
Yes, but now that it's over, they've got to reintegrate with the rest of society...that's going to be tricky.
I've never been integrated into anything.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:43:00am |
re: #329 Walter L. Newton
Fifteen million unique viewers for the finale... extremely good numbers.
I still think it was the world's longest shaggy dog story. 6 years is a long time to get to a punchline like "He wasn't THAT shaggy."
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:44:54am |
re: #333 PT Barnum
Lady does an Erik Son of whoever with a census worker and finds out the hard way that it's not such a good idea.
I hope CNN covers this story...they can even have Erickson give his expert opinion on how the woman prevented the census from counting her.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 7:45:31am |
re: #335 PT Barnum
I still think it was the world's longest shaggy dog story. 6 years is a long time to get to a punchline like "He wasn't THAT shaggy."
I'm not going to argue with you. Like I said above, it all depends on your personal level of spirituality... if you are into that, then the story was very fulfilling for those people... as much as I liked the whole show, it wasn't my "perfect" ending... still doesn't mean it wasn't a wonderful show... I enjoyed ever minute of it.
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 7:45:33am |
re: #334 Walter L. Newton
I've never been integrated into anything.
Bulamanganao won't be the same without you.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:46:24am |
re: #331 darthstar
Yes, but now that it's over, they've got to reintegrate with the rest of society...that's going to be tricky.
Their easy to identify, though, they keep repeating the same sequence of numbers over and over again: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 7:46:26am |
Good morning lizards
Wanted to speak up earlier but got busy. Multi-tasking as usual. Looks like beginning of a very nice day out there.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:48:10am |
re: #337 Walter L. Newton
I'm not going to argue with you. Like I said above, it all depends on your personal level of spirituality... if you are into that, then the story was very fulfilling for those people... as much as I liked the whole show, it wasn't my "perfect" ending... still doesn't mean it wasn't a wonderful show... I enjoyed ever minute of it.
I'm not trying to start an argument (okay, maybe I am) I just did not get the whole phenomenon. Of course I hated Friends too, and didn't find Seinfeld all that amusing, so maybe I'm even a bigger curmudgeon than you...WHAT AM I SAYING!
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 7:48:50am |
re: #339 PT Barnum
Only 42 is relevant. It's the answer to everything. Everything.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:49:14am |
re: #340 Semper Fi
Good morning lizards
Wanted to speak up earlier but got busy. Multi-tasking as usual. Looks like beginning of a very nice day out there.
Was beautiful here yesterday. Went out to the lake and stalked the mighty bluegill for 3 hours. Caught several big ones..including the biggest darn bluegill I've ever seen. Damn thing tore itself off my stringer though. Next time they go in a cooler full of ice.
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:49:17am |
re: #340 Semper Fi
Good morning lizards
Wanted to speak up earlier but got busy. Multi-tasking as usual. Looks like beginning of a very nice day out there.
buenos nachos
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:49:43am |
re: #342 lawhawk
Only 42 is relevant. It's the answer to everything. Everything.
But what was the friggin question?
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:50:14am |
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 7:50:52am |
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:51:30am |
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:51:55am |
re: #347 _remembertonyc
what is 6x7?
but what about the black smoke monster and the statue with four toes..doesn't that imply some sort of escatalogical meaning to the number 42?
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 7:52:00am |
re: #341 PT Barnum
I had a love-hate relationship with Lost. Some episodes were so damned infuriating, but then they'd come along with an episode where they go into Richard's back-story, and it grabs your attention. The themes were interesting and the mythos was sometimes impenetrable, but in the end it was about the story of a group of people and their relationships.
Oh, and I'm with you on Seinfeld and Friends.. not a fan of either. Didn't think they were all that funny and didn't watch regularly.
Right now, there's only one sit-com that I even bother to watch - How I Met Your Mother, and it is the only show that I regularly find myself laughing at - just a real well done show and Neil Patrick Harris is hilarious.
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Renaissance_Man Thu, May 27, 2010 7:52:19am |
re: #332 pharmmajor
Oh come on. Ron and Rand Paul, like Glenn Beck, are Libertarians in name only. They just use it as a cover to espouse their right-wing bullshit.
No true Libertarian?
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:53:46am |
re: #350 lawhawk
Right now, there's only one sit-com that I even bother to watch - How I Met Your Mother, and it is the only show that I regularly find myself laughing at - just a real well done show and Neil Patrick Harris is hilarious.
The only TV I watch regularly now is Dr. Who on BBC America. Other than that, I spend more time reading or futzing about here. Of course, now that it's fishing weather, I'd rather be dunking a worm on one of the local bodies of fresh water.
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 7:54:02am |
re: #349 PT Barnum
Smokey's origin was established prior to the last episode.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:54:15am |
re: #351 Renaissance_Man
No true Libertarian?
A true libertarian is pretty much an anarchist in sheep's clothing.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 27, 2010 7:55:44am |
re: #347 _remembertonyc
what is 6x7?
Actually, the question they came up with (according to the radio scripts) by using a bag of Scrabble tiles was "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
Ford's response: "I always thought there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe."
True that.
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 7:56:16am |
re: #343 PT Barnum
Was beautiful here yesterday. Went out to the lake and stalked the mighty bluegill for 3 hours. Caught several big ones..including the biggest darn bluegill I've ever seen. Damn thing tore itself off my stringer though. Next time they go in a cooler full of ice.
Sounds like you had good day. What part of the country are you in?
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:57:25am |
re: #355 MrSilverDragon
I don't know about Douglas Adams being dead. That's kinda fucked up
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 7:57:27am |
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 7:58:28am |
re: #358 Semper Fi
you sure are chipper today. You're about to ask for something aren't you?
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 27, 2010 7:58:47am |
re: #357 cliffster
I don't know about Douglas Adams being dead. That's kinda fucked up
Well, I take it you do now, so that makes it less of a mess, eh?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:58:51am |
re: #332 pharmmajor
Oh come on. Ron and Rand Paul, like Glenn Beck, are Libertarians in name only. They just use it as a cover to espouse their right-wing bullshit.
The LP thang is just a Republican end around, not a surprise.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 7:58:52am |
re: #356 Semper Fi
Sounds like you had good day. What part of the country are you in?
Iowa..where we have more pigs than people, some of em with 4 legs.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 7:59:55am |
re: #350 lawhawk
Allison is sooo hawt. Freakin' love her.
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cliffster Thu, May 27, 2010 8:00:11am |
re: #362 PT Barnum
Iowa..where we have more pigs than people, some of em with 4 legs.
there are 4-legged people in Iowa?
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 8:00:58am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 8:03:47am |
re: #361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The LP thang is just a Republican end around, not a surprise.
Same thing many Dems do: call themselves "Progressive" to avoid the negative connotations "Liberal" has acquired. It's all just political rebranding.
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 8:06:07am |
re: #359 cliffster
you sure are chipper today. You're about to ask for something aren't you?
You picked-up on that. I'm really not surprised. Over time, my admiration for lizards has multiplied. I'm proud to be part of this blog however small.
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Mr. Crankypants Thu, May 27, 2010 8:08:19am |
re: #367 Dark_Falcon
Same thing many Dems do: call themselves "Progressive" to avoid the negative connotations "Liberal" has acquired. It's all just political rebranding.
At the risk of getting somebody's knickers in a bunch, I can think of a few Republicans I'd like to brand...
"Round em up, boys!"
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 8:08:38am |
re: #362 PT Barnum
Iowa..where we have more pigs than people, some of em with 4 legs.
One of my best friends was from Iowa. Years ago, driving thru, it somehow reminded me of the ocean. Funny, but true.
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Bagua Thu, May 27, 2010 8:09:01am |
Gulf Spill Update:
Preliminary reports have the Top Kill mud injection showing progress.
BP has achieved a dynamic seal, preventing oil and gas from leaking. There is still pressure from the well, indicating that the well is still not stabilised. The tricky part now is to reach the point where mud starts being lost into the formation (reservoir), and then slowly back off in mud weight until the hydrostatic pressure of the mud column is holding back pressure with out losing mud into the formation.
Obviously this is tricky because of the leaks, no way to determine how much mud is going down-well and how much is leaking out the top. Back off too much, and it will blow the mud out and we start again.
Once they believe they have the well balanced and under control, which could occur today, or take a couple of days more, they will inject cement to seal the well and hold the mud column in place.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 8:13:39am |
re: #369 PT Barnum
At the risk of getting somebody's knickers in a bunch, I can think of a few Republicans I'd like to brand...
"Round em up, boys!"
And I can think of a number of Democrats I'd like to brand. That just shows you and I fight our causes politically. No harm, no foul.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:14:35am |
re: #371 Bagua
Gulf Spill Update:
Preliminary reports have the Top Kill mud injection showing progress.
BP has achieved a dynamic seal, preventing oil and gas from leaking. There is still pressure from the well, indicating that the well is still not stabilised. The tricky part now is to reach the point where mud starts being lost into the formation (reservoir), and then slowly back off in mud weight until the hydrostatic pressure of the mud column is holding back pressure with out losing mud into the formation.
Obviously this is tricky because of the leaks, no way to determine how much mud is going down-well and how much is leaking out the top. Back off too much, and it will blow the mud out and we start again.
Once they believe they have the well balanced and under control, which could occur today, or take a couple of days more, they will inject cement to seal the well and hold the mud column in place.
Sounds great. Did you see the article from the LA Times I posted a couple of days ago about the command center at BP Houston? Apparently the best and the brightest from Govt., Oil Co.'s, education etc. are there. If this does succeed, they will get another big write up I'm sure.
Also there's a link that sources say the head of the MMS has been fired.
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 8:16:45am |
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Renaissance_Man Thu, May 27, 2010 8:17:55am |
re: #374 darthstar
I guess they are like parfait.
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Bagua Thu, May 27, 2010 8:24:11am |
re: #373 Stanley Sea
Sounds great. Did you see the article from the LA Times I posted a couple of days ago about the command center at BP Houston? Apparently the best and the brightest from Govt., Oil Co.'s, education etc. are there. If this does succeed, they will get another big write up I'm sure.
Also there's a link that sources say the head of the MMS has been fired.
Houston is the oil capital. Transwestern may be incorporated in Switzerland, but their operations are controlled from Houston. Cameron is also here in Houston as is Weatherford, Haliburton, and Schlumberger .
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 8:25:33am |
re: #371 Bagua
Some smart motherfucker's gonna figure it out!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:25:58am |
I just read something at Dave Weigel's site. Apparently the house next door to Palin from 2005-2008 was a halfway house for ex-cons/drug addicts. He said he verified it.
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 8:27:42am |
re: #379 Stanley Sea
I just read something at Dave Weigel's site. Apparently the house next door to Palin from 2005-2008 was a halfway house for ex-cons/drug addicts. He said he verified it.
wow, you would think one journalist would be a better neighbor.....
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 8:28:20am |
re: #302 sattv4u2
FIRST you bagged on me, lie about the numbers and say that my link doesn't support what I said.
again,, from your link
1 Month ago 2.858
1 Week ago 2.840
Yesterday 2.777
Current 2.7592.759 is LESS than 2.858
He really is a schmuckhead.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:28:23am |
re: #377 Bagua
Houston is the oil capital. Transwestern may be incorporated in Switzerland, but their operations are controlled from Houston. Cameron is also here in Houston as is Weatherford, Haliburton, and Schlumberger .
[Link: articles.latimes.com...]
Here's the article.
At BP's Houston offices, hundreds of scientists are at work on the Gulf of Mexico spill. They have an unlimited budget, an international team of the sharpest minds in modern engineering — and they have no time.
I'm hoping they have success soon.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:28:52am |
re: #380 webevintage
wow, you would think one journalist would be a better neighbor...
She is more scared of the press. Bizarre.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 8:29:22am |
Now this is annoying. I am all for a derivatives ban.
Top administration officials declined Wednesday to reject — or embrace — a controversial proposal in the Wall Street reform bill that would force big banks to spin off their derivatives operations, a cool reception that suggests the provision might be expendable to the White House.
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 27, 2010 8:30:06am |
Mwahaha
Some rental management place had a policy that prohibited a vet from flying a US flag in his window. The news items went national.
Here's their website now: [Link: www.midwestrents.com...]
(Translation) Please, please, please stop with the flaming emails.
(Just for the record, I think any legitimate national flag should be able to be flown in someone's window.)
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Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 8:31:25am |
re: #385 EmmmieG
Imagine the fines and fury if it had been on his lawn! ZOMG
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 8:33:13am |
re: #359 cliffster
you sure are chipper today. You're about to ask for something aren't you?
Thought I might try to tap-in to lizard knowledge due to yesterdays experience at Best Buy. I'll try to be brief:
Music was playing from a nearby stereo. It was smooth jazz that will always cause me to stop and listen. I asked a salesman the title and artist. He didn't know but used his cell phone, scrolled to a site, selected it and the phone went into 'listening mode'. In less than a minute the phone displayed the title and artist and provided a selection for purchase. To me, it was a flat out miracle. I'm planning to buy a similar phone and use it as a means to possibly download music to an what? IPod? The salesman mentioned some possibilities but it went straight over my head. So, you see, I'm very primitive in my understanding of this technology.
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 8:33:48am |
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lostlakehiker Thu, May 27, 2010 8:34:25am |
re: #98 NJDhockeyfan
N.Korea threatens to attack S.Korea ships as tempers flare
I only see bad things happening if this doesn't get diffused.
North Korea can defuse it in a second. One word.
Sorry
Or it can just simmer down, if NK tones down the rhetoric and takes its medicine.
But if NK answers every economic response to its first military provocation with another military provocation, sooner or later they'll either find themselves in an impossible economic bind and stand down, or they'll find themselves in an impossible economic bind and go for broke by launching a war.
Most likely outcome, I expect, is they take their medicine but continue with the bellicose rhetoric. As long as it's not accompanied by further military provocations, the situation could then gradually cool off and the economic response consequences imposed on NK could be relaxed.
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 8:34:38am |
re: #349 PT Barnum
but what about the black smoke monster and the statue with four toes..doesn't that imply some sort of escatalogical meaning to the number 42?
Mariano Rivera wears #42 and when he comes into a game, that usually means death for Yankee opponents
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 8:35:02am |
re: #383 Stanley Sea
She is more scared of the press. Bizarre.
Fox news exclusive: the new Palin fence
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 8:35:18am |
re: #385 EmmmieG
Mwahaha
Some rental management place had a policy that prohibited a vet from flying a US flag in his window. The news items went national.
Here's their website now: [Link: www.midwestrents.com...]
(Translation) Please, please, please stop with the flaming emails.
(Just for the record, I think any legitimate national flag should be able to be flown in someone's window.)
That happens sometimes. Rental organizations and building associations should not make a big deal over American flag displays. Even if such a display violates the normal rules, trying to force it down makes you look unpatriotic. In America, you don't argue against the Flag.
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 8:35:22am |
The number of terror attack attempts against the US is at its highest levels.
Attempted terror attacks in the United States are on the rise, and it's only going to get worse, Homeland Security warns.CNN reported on Thursday that an unclassified intelligence memo states "the number and pace of attempted attacks against the United States over the past nine months have surpassed the number of attempts during any other previous one-year period."
Terror organizations will also target the United States with "increased frequency," the memo warned.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 8:36:53am |
re: #391 Killgore Trout
Fox news exclusive: the new Palin fence
It's got a gap underneath, but it's tasteful and a nice color.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:37:39am |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 27, 2010 8:39:21am |
re: #392 Dark_Falcon
That happens sometimes. Rental organizations and building associations should not make a big deal over American flag displays. Even if such a display violates the normal rules, trying to force it down makes you look unpatriotic. In America, you don't argue against the Flag.
It wasn't just a flag in a window. It's a flag in a window of a guy who has at least two overseas tours.
My cynical reaction is that this has to be the worst PR ploy EVER.
My non-cynical reaction is that putting your life on the line for your fellow citizens should buy you just a little bit of understanding, no?
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Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 8:39:49am |
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 8:40:27am |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
It's got a gap underneath, but it's tasteful and a nice color.
I don't think it's tall enough. She took the pic standing just a few feet away from the fence. probably about 15 feet away from the fence you'll be able to see his windows.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 27, 2010 8:40:28am |
re: #385 EmmmieG
Mwahaha
Some rental management place had a policy that prohibited a vet from flying a US flag in his window. The news items went national.
Here's their website now: [Link: www.midwestrents.com...]
(Translation) Please, please, please stop with the flaming emails.
(Just for the record, I think any legitimate national flag should be able to be flown in someone's window.)
Was it a property policy against displaying flags, or one against window decorations in general? I ask since my apartment building has a lease clause concerning the latter. They want the building facade to have a uniform appearance; e.g. tan brick and white blinds. If you put something up in the window that breaks the scheme they can request that you take it down.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 8:40:35am |
re: #393 lawhawk
The number of terror attack attempts against the US is at its highest levels.
Kinda runs contrary to some of the lib denialism around here about the radical Muslim threat of home-grown jihadism, doesn't it?
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 8:41:56am |
re: #395 lawhawk
[Video]
I'm a Red Sox fan, but I an in awe of the great Rivera. And when I hear "Enter Sandman" on the PA system, it's the same as a funeral dirge ...
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 8:43:51am |
re: #402 _remembertonyc
I'm a Red Sox fan, but I an in awe of the great Rivera. And when I hear "Enter Sandman" on the PA system, it's the same as a funeral dirge ...
Although the Sox did have his number back in '06 (iirc) as well as other time. They touched him up for several blown saves
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Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 8:44:01am |
re: #402 _remembertonyc
I'm a Red Sox fan, but I an in awe of the great Rivera. And when I hear "Enter Sandman" on the PA system, it's the same as a funeral dirge ...
I understand he has lost about 3mph..He is coming to the end of his career
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 8:44:08am |
re: #401 Spare O'Lake
Kinda runs contrary to some of the lib denialism around here about the radical Muslim threat of home-grown jihadism, doesn't it?
Yes, it does. But much of that may be the Islamists testing Obama. Hopefully, they soon get the message that he's not going to drop the domestic security measures instituted by GWB and cool it a bit. The other part of it may be homegrown jihadi attacks coming into stride. Those worry me a good bit.
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gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 8:44:23am |
re: #389 lostlakehiker
Or it can just simmer down, if NK tones down the rhetoric
I don't think NK is an independent actor. They are essentially a Chinese pawn. China has been getting aggressive in the area after years of building their military. I worry that China is calling the, um, shots here.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 27, 2010 8:45:52am |
re: #400 oaktree
Was it a property policy against displaying flags, or one against window decorations in general? I ask since my apartment building has a lease clause concerning the latter. They want the building facade to have a uniform appearance; e.g. tan brick and white blinds. If you put something up in the window that breaks the scheme they can request that you take it down.
Common sense. I can understand that lots of flags would clutter up the front of the building, but common sense says they can make an exception for a man who risked his life for their safety and freedom.
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 8:47:15am |
re: #401 Spare O'Lake
Kinda runs contrary to some of the lib denialism around here about the radical Muslim threat of home-grown jihadism, doesn't it?
wha?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 8:47:48am |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
It's got a gap underneath, but it's tasteful and a nice color.
The guy's been following her around the country and now is renting the house next door. He was spotted watching her with binoculars while she mowed the grass with shorts on. Kinda creepy if you ask me.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:48:12am |
re: #409 webevintage
wha?
We don't shake enough in our boots to the threat of Sharia Law here in the US.
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 8:49:15am |
re: #403 sattv4u2
Although the Sox did have his number back in '06 (iirc) as well as other time. They touched him up for several blown saves
Well ... there was 2004 and the Dave Roberts stolen base while he was on the mound :)
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 8:50:07am |
re: #404 HoosierHoops
I understand he has lost about 3mph..He is coming to the end of his career
He still throws that cutter, which moves like an angry snake!
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 8:50:57am |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
It is kinda creepy but he's just doing it so Palin will publicize his book. Nobody heard of him a few days ago. Now he's all over the news because Palin is freaking out, taking pics of him in his house, posting pics of her fence, etc. She's going to talk about him in speeches and interviews and make him famous.
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 8:51:35am |
re: #397 EmmmieG
It wasn't just a flag in a window. It's a flag in a window of a guy who has at least two overseas tours.
My cynical reaction is that this has to be the worst PR ploy EVER.
My non-cynical reaction is that putting your life on the line for your fellow citizens should buy you just a little bit of understanding, no?
I've been trying to replace a very frayed and tired looking t-shirt for awhile now. The front says U S A with a small flag under the letters. Stores just don't carry them, it seems. Maybe one day...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 8:51:53am |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
Sarah mows her own grass?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 8:52:41am |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
The guy's been following her around the country and now is renting the house next door. He was spotted watching her with binoculars while she mowed the grass with shorts on. Kinda creepy if you ask me.
I actually have no problem with it AS LONG AS he doesn't infringe on her actual property (without permission, of course)
She is after all a public figure by choice. He is gathering info on a book he's about to write. I would prefer that he does his own research this way rather than relying on second, third and fourth hand accounts
(the "I know a guy that says he has a cousin that says he saw Sarah at a restaurant with a man other than her husband and they were sitting close and the waiter heard the guy say,,,,,,,")
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_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 8:52:54am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 8:53:48am |
re: #417 sattv4u2
the "I know a guy that says he has a cousin that says he saw Sarah at a restaurant with a man other than her husband and they were sitting close and the waiter heard the guy say,,,
"Sure, I'll mow your grass, but WTF is wrong with the Dude?"
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 8:53:56am |
re: #404 HoosierHoops
Yet, this season here's his stats:
He's 0-1, 10 saves, with a 1.76 ERA. That's the same ERA as last year - and only slightly higher than the insane 1.40 he posted in 2008. Guys still can't figure out his cutter no matter what speed he's throwing it at.
Every season he goes through a stretch where he gets hit harder than usual, but then settles back down.
He'll retire whenever he wants..
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:53:59am |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
The guy's been following her around the country and now is renting the house next door. He was spotted watching her with binoculars while she mowed the grass with shorts on. Kinda creepy if you ask me.
That is not true! You are believing what she wrote on her facebook, which just insinuated that he would be looking.
Really, she can manipulate the story with lies so easily.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 27, 2010 8:55:16am |
I'd stay and fight, but I don't want to.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:55:17am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, can't we all?
I live and die by the fact check. I do the best I can.
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Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 8:55:35am |
re: #406 gamark
I don't think NK is an independent actor. They are essentially a Chinese pawn. China has been getting aggressive in the area after years of building their military. I worry that China is calling the, um, shots here.
Yeah, that's been in the back of mind for some time. Like since the 50's
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Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 8:55:52am |
re: #420 lawhawk
Yet, this season here's his stats:
He's 0-1, 10 saves, with a 1.76 ERA. That's the same ERA as last year - and only slightly higher than the insane 1.40 he posted in 2008. Guys still can't figure out his cutter no matter what speed he's throwing it at.Every season he goes through a stretch where he gets hit harder than usual, but then settles back down.
He'll retire whenever he wants..
He is a first ballot Hall of Famer...
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 8:55:55am |
re: #406 gamark
I don't think that's nearly accurate. China has been more than surprised in the past when NK has done stuff - like detonate the nuclear weapon, engage in bellicosity, etc., and definetely doesn't want to see the NK regime collapse because it would mean a massive refugee influx because the situation in NK is so bad. They'd rather contain the situation and push the refugees onto SK.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 8:56:13am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 8:56:21am |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
It is kinda creepy but he's just doing it so Palin will publicize his book. Nobody heard of him a few days ago. Now he's all over the news because Palin is freaking out, taking pics of him in his house, posting pics of her fence, etc. She's going to talk about him in speeches and interviews and make him famous.
This vid describes that reporter:
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 8:56:21am |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
Nobody heard of him a few days ago.
HOLD THE WEDDIN'
Nobody heard of Joe McGinnis? Isn't tjhat whose writing the new Palin book?
McGinnis has a bunch of best sellers, one of the most famous being Fatal Vision
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 8:56:22am |
re: #410 NJDhockeyfan
The guy's been following her around the country and now is renting the house next door. He was spotted watching her with binoculars while she mowed the grass with shorts on. Kinda creepy if you ask me.
He is a journalist/author (Joe McGiniss and I guess if he was on my case and I was a grifter like Palin I'd be a bit worried too.) who is writing a book about Alaska and Palin.
Normally he moves into the area his subject lives/lived in.
Personally I would not be surprised if this was all an act to get Palin to do something completely batshit and inappropriate...and she delivered.
Stalking him and getting a picture of him sitting on his deck and posting it on her facebook page along with inferring that the man is a pedophile.
Why does she think everyone wants to have sex with her kids?
[Link: www.themudflats.net...]
[Link: www.themudflats.net...]
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 8:57:35am |
re: #430 sattv4u2
I haven't heard of him, probably most people never heard of him. Now he's all over the news.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:57:45am |
re: #431 webevintage
And when the house was a halfway house for convicts for 3 years, she had no problem.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58:16am |
re: #417 sattv4u2
I actually have no problem with it AS LONG AS he doesn't infringe on her actual property (without permission, of course)
She is after all a public figure by choice. He is gathering info on a book he's about to write. I would prefer that he does his own research this way rather than relying on second, third and fourth hand accounts
(the "I know a guy that says he has a cousin that says he saw Sarah at a restaurant with a man other than her husband and they were sitting close and the waiter heard the guy say,,,")
If someone moved next door and was watching my family with binoculars every day I wouldn't be very happy either. I know she's a public figure but I've always thought kids were off limits.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58:36am |
re: #432 Killgore Trout
I haven't heard of him, probably most people never heard of him. Now he's all over the news.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Hell,,, I recall when Fatal Vision came out. The story it's based on was HUGE at the time
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58:55am |
re: #434 NJDhockeyfan
If someone moved next door and was watching my family with binoculars every day I wouldn't be very happy either. I know she's a public figure but I've always thought kids were off limits.
Did you read my post? You are repeating falsehoods.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 8:59:56am |
re: #432 Killgore Trout
re: #435 sattv4u2
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Hell,,, I recall when Fatal Vision came out. The story it's based on was HUGE at the time
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:00:24am |
re: #434 NJDhockeyfan
If someone moved next door and was watching my family with binoculars every day I wouldn't be very happy either. I know she's a public figure but I've always thought kids were off limits.
Palin is making that shit up.
As it is SHE is the one stalking him and claiming he wants to look in her daughter's bedroom windows.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 9:00:25am |
re: #431 webevintage
He is a journalist/author (Joe McGiniss and I guess if he was on my case and I was a grifter like Palin I'd be a bit worried too.) who is writing a book about Alaska and Palin.
Normally he moves into the area his subject lives/lived in.
Personally I would not be surprised if this was all an act to get Palin to do something completely batshit and inappropriate...and she delivered.Stalking him and getting a picture of him sitting on his deck and posting it on her facebook page along with inferring that the man is a pedophile.
Why does she think everyone wants to have sex with her kids?[Link: www.themudflats.net...]
[Link: www.themudflats.net...]
Renting the house next door and spying on one's subject with binoculars is beyond creepy, IMO. The guy needs to be fed his binoculars.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:00:32am |
re: #431 webevintage
He is a journalist/author (Joe McGiniss and I guess if he was on my case and I was a grifter like Palin I'd be a bit worried too.) who is writing a book about Alaska and Palin.
Normally he moves into the area his subject lives/lived in.
Personally I would not be surprised if this was all an act to get Palin to do something completely batshit and inappropriate...and she delivered.Stalking him and getting a picture of him sitting on his deck and posting it on her facebook page along with inferring that the man is a pedophile.
Why does she think everyone wants to have sex with her kids?[Link: www.themudflats.net...]
[Link: www.themudflats.net...]
She's stalking him...really?
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bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:00:59am |
So I guess we know now what will happen if the Republicans take control over the house this fall. Impeachment hearings on the Sestak/Obama deal...
Can anyone figure out what the upside to this is for Republicans?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 9:01:34am |
re: #438 webevintage
Palin is making that shit up.
As it is SHE is the one stalking him and claiming he wants to look in her daughter's bedroom windows.
Hook line and sinker.
Drives me nuts. We are smarter that that.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:01:57am |
re: #441 bluecheese
So I guess we know now what will happen if the Republicans take control over the house this fall. Impeachment hearings on the Sestak/Obama deal...
Can anyone figure out what the upside to this is for Republicans?
ummm,, just a guess here ,, but prosecuting a crime?
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:02:31am |
re: #440 NJDhockeyfan
She's stalking him...really?
I think taking pictures of your neighbor and posting them on facebook is a bit stalkerish...
Please, Palin is a grifter and a liar.
I don't think he moved in with pure reasons (Unless Wasilla just has a lack of decent houses for rent), hell I'd bet he moved in to see what crazy shit she would say/do.
And she has delivered....
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 9:02:44am |
re: #441 bluecheese
Red Meat. Tie Obama up trying to defend himself on the impeachment charges (or threat thereof). Perhaps get someone to perjure themselves or fall into a perjury trap or engage in obstruction of justice. Watch for calls to have an independent prosecutor investigate further...
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bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:02:51am |
re: #443 sattv4u2
You think this will play well with the general public?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:03:12am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:03:22am |
re: #439 Spare O'Lake
Renting the house next door and spying on one's subject with binoculars is beyond creepy, IMO. The guy needs to be fed his binoculars.
Agreed. McGiniss is a creep. I'm going to side with Sarah Palin on this one.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 9:04:04am |
re: #448 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. McGiniss is a creep. I'm going to side with Sarah Palin on this one.
DF, she is LYING. He did not spy on her with binocs. She made that up.
gah.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:04:10am |
re: #446 bluecheese
You think this will play well with the general public?
It will play well with righties
It will play bad with lefties
Are you new to this?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:04:32am |
re: #445 lawhawk
Red Meat. Tie Obama up trying to defend himself on the impeachment charges (or threat thereof). Perhaps get someone to perjure themselves or fall into a perjury trap or engage in obstruction of justice. Watch for calls to have an independent prosecutor investigate further...
Smart analysis. You strike me as spot on.
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:04:33am |
re: #445 lawhawk
Red Meat. Tie Obama up trying to defend himself on the impeachment charges (or threat thereof). Perhaps get someone to perjure themselves or fall into a perjury trap or engage in obstruction of justice. Watch for calls to have an independent prosecutor investigate further...
Yeah.
Waste a ton of money like in the Whitewater crap, spend time that should be spent running the country.
I guess this is what Obama gets by looking forward and not allowing the DOJ go after anyone in the Bush administration.
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albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:05:15am |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
It is kinda creepy but he's just doing it so Palin will publicize his book. Nobody heard of him a few days ago. Now he's all over the news because Palin is freaking out, taking pics of him in his house, posting pics of her fence, etc. She's going to talk about him in speeches and interviews and make him famous.
that's exactly how this sick symbiosis works....something from nothing, $$$$
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:05:55am |
re: #432 Killgore Trout
I haven't heard of him, probably most people never heard of him. Now he's all over the news.
WaPo refers to him as legendary.
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bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:05:59am |
re: #450 sattv4u2
Are you new to this?
I asked about the general public..... You wish to talk about me now?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:06:09am |
re: #449 Stanley Sea
DF, she is LYING. He did not spy on her with binocs. She made that up.
gah.
I'm more inclined to believe her than McGiniss. I have an extreme dislike for intrusive stalker journalists.
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:06:29am |
I'd also say that Palin is freaked out by the amount of information he is going to get on her by embedding himself in Wasilla for months and months. I bet there are tons of folks who will be glad to unload on the Palin/Heath clan.
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gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 9:06:31am |
re: #427 lawhawk
Could be. Maybe pawn is the wrong word. But China has more influence than anyone over the NK leadership. Maybe the relationship is more like Luca Brasi and Don Corleone. A half-crazy hit man you can't completely control but one you can use strike fear in your enemies in the right circumstances.
And I wouldn't be too sure the Chinese were all too surprised at the nuke tests.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:07:13am |
re: #455 bluecheese
I asked about the general public... You wish to talk about me now?
I answered you with the two sentences before I invoked "you".
Also, you're not part of the general public?
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 9:07:15am |
re: #442 Stanley Sea
Hook line and sinker.
Drives me nuts. We are smarter that that.
I have my tackle box right here...come over and let me get the hook out of your lip with my needle-nosed pliers.
Did the reporter rent the house next door to her or not?
Was he looking at her house with binoculars or not?
This looks to me like a pretty good example of anti-Palin syndrome.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:07:20am |
re: #438 webevintage
Palin is making that shit up.
As it is SHE is the one stalking him and claiming he wants to look in her daughter's bedroom windows.
Right, he moved all the way from Massachusetts to the house next door to her but she's the stalker.
LOL!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:07:41am |
re: #455 bluecheese
I asked about the general public... You wish to talk about me now?
Yes, a little. You've haven't posted much so I don't really know anything about you. Tell us a little about yourself.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:08:05am |
re: #457 webevintage
I'd also say that Palin is freaked out by the amount of information he is going to get on her by embedding himself in Wasilla for months and months. I bet there are tons of folks who will be glad to unload on the Palin/Heath clan.
We won;t learn anything new from the people there that wasn't already ferreted out by the media prior to last election
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researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 9:08:59am |
This gulf oil spill impact thing is bad- really bad and it's getting worse.
I think this is a lot more important than bitching about the Tea Party, VA governor McDonnell and slavery proclamations, birth certificates and Rand Paul.
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Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 9:09:35am |
re: #456 Dark_Falcon
I'm more inclined to believe her than McGiniss. I have an extreme dislike for intrusive stalker journalists.
Well I wish I had Journalist stalker move next store to write a book about me....I'm such a nobody!
*Stella! Stella! I could have been somebody!*
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 9:09:54am |
re: #460 Spare O'Lake
I have my tackle box right here...come over and let me get the hook out of your lip with my needle-nosed pliers.
Did the reporter rent the house next door to her or not?
Was he looking at her house with binoculars or not?
This looks to me like a pretty good example of anti-Palin syndrome.
This is my last post, because you will believe Sarah Palin with her plethora of documented lies regardless.
She insinuated in her facebook post that he was going to be spying on her with binoculars. He never did. Her victimhood, which she will easily insinuate without any basis of fact is how she rolls.
And I don't see the necessity of you implying to use your needle nose pliers on me. Gracias.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:10:57am |
re: #446 bluecheese
You think this will play well with the general public?
If the WH commited a crime the public won't shed a tear for the guilty. Remember what happened to Nixon?
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lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 9:11:10am |
re: #452 webevintage
But that ignores the constant calls while Bush was in office from Democrats for his impeachment over policy differences.
Whitewater was many things, but there were criminal charges involved and convictions among many associates to Pres. Clinton. It was in the course of that investigation that his perjury and obstruction of justice re: Lewinsky lead to impeachment and eventually to his disbarment in AR.
| 469 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:11:17am |
re: #466 Stanley Sea
This is my last post, because you will believe Sarah Palin with her plethora of documented lies regardless.
She insinuated in her facebook post that he was going to be spying on her with binoculars. He
never didHASN'T YET (that we know of). Her victimhood, which she will easily insinuate without any basis of fact is how she rolls.And I don't see the necessity of you implying to use your needle nose pliers on me. Gracias.
ftfy,,, as far as I can tell, he's still renting the house next door and there's no way to tell IF he has a pair of binos there or not
| 470 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:11:34am |
re: #462 Dark_Falcon
I started to follow politics right around the end of the Clinton BJ deal.
I came here from the great orange satan about a year year ago, and am prolly to the left of most of the folks here. I do try to keep an open mind about things though.
My skin color is brown, and I'm male, and gay.
Anything else you wish to know?
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:11:35am |
re: #456 Dark_Falcon
I'm more inclined to believe her than McGiniss. I have an extreme dislike for intrusive stalker journalists.
If she really thinks he is a stalker she can use her position to get a restraining order against him.
In the end she is very, very happy she has another reason to get in the news and able to play the victim which has become her stock and trade.
| 472 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:12:08am |
re: #449 Stanley Sea
DF, she is LYING. He did not spy on her with binocs. She made that up.
gah.
How do you know...were you there?
| 473 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 9:12:45am |
re: #470 bluecheese
I started to follow politics right around the end of the Clinton BJ deal.
I came here from the great orange satan about a year year ago, and am prolly to the left of most of the folks here. I do try to keep an open mind about things though.
My skin color is brown, and I'm male, and gay.
Anything else you wish to know?
Welcome..It's good to have you here...
| 474 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:13:11am |
re: #470 bluecheese
Anything else you wish to know?
yes,,,, what's the "orange Satan"??
And can you wear it after Memorial Day !?!?! (or is that white after Labor Day!?!?)
| 475 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:13:19am |
re: #470 bluecheese
I started to follow politics right around the end of the Clinton BJ deal.
I came here from the great orange satan about a year year ago, and am prolly to the left of most of the folks here. I do try to keep an open mind about things though.
My skin color is brown, and I'm male, and gay.
Anything else you wish to know?
Nope, that works for me. Welcome!
| 476 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:13:40am |
re: #470 bluecheese
I started to follow politics right around the end of the Clinton BJ deal.
I came here from the great orange satan about a year year ago, and am prolly to the left of most of the folks here. I do try to keep an open mind about things though.
My skin color is brown, and I'm male, and gay.
Anything else you wish to know?
cool...welcome!
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albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:13:54am |
re: #464 researchok
This gulf oil spill impact thing is bad- really bad and it's getting worse.
I think this is a lot more important than bitching about the Tea Party, VA governor McDonnell and slavery proclamations, birth certificates and Rand Paul.
duh, ya think?....Palin/Beck/TPs is a potent narcotic tho
| 478 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:14:41am |
re: #465 HoosierHoops
Well I wish I had Journalist stalker move next store to write a book about me...I'm such a nobody!
*Stella! Stella! I could have been somebody!*
You're not in the phone book?
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:15:10am |
re: #468 lawhawk
But that ignores the constant calls while Bush was in office from Democrats for his impeachment over policy differences.
Whitewater was many things, but there were criminal charges involved and convictions among many associates to Pres. Clinton. It was in the course of that investigation that his perjury and obstruction of justice re: Lewinsky lead to impeachment and eventually to his disbarment in AR.
And it was stupid to call for Bush's impeachment too.
I understand all about Whitewater and the subsequent impeachment and I still think it was a waste of time and money and national angst.
| 480 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:15:13am |
re: #470 bluecheese
I started to follow politics right around the end of the Clinton BJ deal.
I came here from the great orange satan about a year year ago, and am prolly to the left of most of the folks here. I do try to keep an open mind about things though.
My skin color is brown, and I'm male, and gay.
Anything else you wish to know?
Throw in that you're Jewish and you will allowed into any Republican run Country Club due to quotas.
///
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:15:26am |
re: #478 NJDhockeyfan
You're not in the phone book?
"I'M SOMEBODY"
(Steve Martin in The Jerk) (( I think!!))
| 482 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 9:15:45am |
re: #478 NJDhockeyfan
You're not in the phone book?
Not even the phone book.. I have an Internet phone...
/
| 483 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:15:45am |
re: #481 sattv4u2
"I'M SOMEBODY"
(Steve Martin in The Jerk) (( I think!!))
"Why does he hate the cans?"
| 484 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:16:02am |
re: #401 Spare O'Lake
Kinda runs contrary to some of the lib denialism around here about the radical Muslim threat of home-grown jihadism, doesn't it?
'Not running around screaming' really is not equivalent to 'denialism'.
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bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:16:16am |
re: #468 lawhawk
But that ignores the constant calls while Bush was in office from Democrats for his impeachment over policy differences.
so torture=political deal making?
Mkay...
| 486 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:16:21am |
| 487 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:16:22am |
re: #479 webevintage
And it was stupid to call for Bush's impeachment too.
I understand all about Whitewater and the subsequent impeachment and I still think it was a waste of time and money and national angst.
you can blame the sleazy Clintons for the entire sordid mess...why don't you?
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researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 9:16:26am |
re: #477 albusteve
duh, ya think?...Palin/Beck/TPs is a potent narcotic tho
Too true- but in the end, Beck, Plain, TP, et al, don't make the rules, don't govern and have no real influence on policy.
Those poor bastards in LA have been screwed over for another 20 years- at least.
I just feel sick about it.
| 489 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:17:33am |
| 490 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:18:11am |
re: #487 albusteve
you can blame the sleazy Clintons for the entire sordid mess...why don't you?
It wasn't his fault he lied under oath about the blow jobs. HE"S the real victim here!
| 491 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:18:11am |
re: #488 researchok
Too true- but in the end, Beck, Plain, TP, et al, don't make the rules, don't govern and have no real influence on policy.
Those poor bastards in LA have been screwed over for another 20 years- at least.
I just feel sick about it.
I do too...and damned angry as well
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:18:18am |
re: #411 Stanley Sea
We don't shake enough in our boots to the threat of Sharia Law here in the US.
We have the nerve to trust in the rule of law, and the resources and capabilities of the United States of America.
| 493 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:18:37am |
| 494 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:19:18am |
re: #487 albusteve
you can blame the sleazy Clintons for the entire sordid mess...why don't you?
Sure.
I love Bill, but he is not an innocent, it would have just be easier to say "yeah I got a blowjob, I'm the President, fuck y'all" then lying.
But God, what a waste of energy.....
And please we can go after the R's for ever beginning to investigate Whitewater. Waste of energy and in the end who went to jail?
Susan McCdonnall and Web Hubbell?
| 495 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:19:28am |
re: #415 Semper Fi
I've been trying to replace a very frayed and tired looking t-shirt for awhile now. The front says U S A with a small flag under the letters. Stores just don't carry them, it seems. Maybe one day...
Check around online. Do you recall where you got it to begin with?
| 496 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:19:46am |
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bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:19:49am |
re: #489 Aceofwhat?
I'm suggesting that the calls for Bush's impeachment are not equal to the calls now for Obama's....
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albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:19:58am |
re: #492 SanFranciscoZionist
We have the nerve to trust in the rule of law, and the resources and capabilities of the United States of America.
except when it comes to controlling our borders....a small thing I guess
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The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:20:10am |
re: #466 Stanley Sea
This is my last post, because you will believe Sarah Palin with her plethora of documented lies regardless.
She insinuated in her facebook post that he was going to be spying on her with binoculars. He never did. Her victimhood, which she will easily insinuate without any basis of fact is how she rolls.
And I don't see the necessity of you implying to use your needle nose pliers on me. Gracias.
I wonder who used to live next door to Palin. Must have been someone who really made her feel safe....
Fox News' Greta Van Susteren, who often acts as Sarah Palin's information sherpa to the lower 48, puts up a photo of the tall fence going up to block any potential peering from her new neighbor, reporter Joe McGinniss. And Alaskan writer Shannyn Moore has some background on that neighbor's house:
The home Joe McGinniss is renting used to be an Oxford House from 2005 until 2008. The tenants were men recently released from prison who were recovering addicts...The Palins themselves rented the home McGinnis is staying in for six months in 2009, but weren't interested in purchasing it... During the election, the Secret Service guarded the Palin home from the backyard now occupied by Mr. McGinnis.
I've clipped a few things I don't see Moore offering proof for but the rest of this is verifiable. Palin uses the one-way Facebook information feed to give the impression of openness and honesty about her life -- her fans are the first to know, reporters hustle to type up what she says.
lol.
Palin is a grifter, an opportunist, and a liar. What amazes me is that anyone still listens to her.
| 500 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 9:20:34am |
| 501 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:20:37am |
re: #497 bluecheese
I'm suggesting that the calls for Bush's impeachment are not equal to the calls now for Obama's...
if you mean they're both ridiculous, then i agree!
| 502 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:20:55am |
re: #497 bluecheese
I'm suggesting that the calls for Bush's impeachment are not equal to the calls now for Obama's...
There are congess members calling for Obamas impeachment?
Because I sure do recall some calling for Bush's
| 503 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:20:55am |
re: #494 webevintage
Sure.
I love Bill, but he is not an innocent, it would have just be easier to say "yeah I got a blowjob, I'm the President, fuck y'all" then lying.
But God, what a waste of energy...And please we can go after the R's for ever beginning to investigate Whitewater. Waste of energy and in the end who went to jail?
Susan McCdonnall and Web Hubbell?
so you totally disregard the rape aspect of the whole thing?
| 504 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:21:21am |
| 505 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 9:21:42am |
re: #499 iceweasel
Hi Ice! Have any plans this weekend with Jimmah?
| 506 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:21:45am |
re: #499 iceweasel
Palin is a grifter, an opportunist, and a liar. What amazes me is that anyone still listens to her.
huh ,, did you say something!?!?
//
| 507 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:22:09am |
re: #494 webevintage
Sure.
I love Bill, but he is not an innocent, it would have just be easier to say "yeah I got a blowjob, I'm the President, fuck y'all" then lying.
But God, what a waste of energy...And please we can go after the R's for ever beginning to investigate Whitewater. Waste of energy and in the end who went to jail?
Susan McCdonnall and Web Hubbell?
Jim Guy Tucker went to jail as well. Ken Starr nailed a sitting governor. That's a major investigation in my eyes.
| 508 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:22:23am |
re: #499 iceweasel
because it's AmIdol politics and people just have to tune in to her....they can't stop
| 509 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:23:07am |
| 510 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:23:14am |
re: #474 sattv4u2
Anything else you wish to know?
yes,,, what's the "orange Satan"??
And can you wear it after Memorial Day !?!?! (or is that white after Labor Day!?!?)
The Great Orange Satan is what many of us lefty types call dkos, to mock those who imagine that Kos gives 'Teh Left' marching orders.
| 511 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:23:50am |
re: #510 iceweasel
The Great Orange Satan is what many of us lefty types call dkos, to mock those who imagine that Kos gives 'Teh Left' marching orders.
K,, thanks
(I don't get out much!!)
| 512 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:24:29am |
Jesus. I cannot believe that I am allowing myself to get pulled into a argument about Whitewater and Clinton and blow jobs and lies.
Ugh.
My fault. I'll just say something rude so my apologies for even bringing it up.
| 513 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:24:40am |
re: #502 sattv4u2
There are congess members calling for Obamas impeachment?
Because I sure do recall some calling for Bush's
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
The seven – Sens. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Orrin Hatch of Utah, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, Jon Kyl or Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, John Cornyn of Texas and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma – allege that the offer would appear to violate federal criminal laws, including 18 U.S.C. 600, which prohibits promising a government position “as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity” or “in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office.”
I seen Grassley up on fox news this morning blathering on about it...
| 514 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:25:26am |
re: #505 HoosierHoops
Hi Ice! Have any plans this weekend with Jimmah?
Hey cutie! Not sure yet-- dealing with some visa crap. But I'm hoping we'll make it to the Bronx zoo.
What's new with you? Love to you and Winston both!
| 515 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:25:34am |
re: #512 webevintage
Easiest to just scroll on by...
| 516 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:26:10am |
re: #513 bluecheese
I seen Grassley up on fox news this morning blathering on about it...
And he (they) called for Obama to be impeached, because thats what you intimated here
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 517 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:26:13am |
re: #510 iceweasel
The Great Orange Satan is what many of us lefty types call dkos, to mock those who imagine that Kos gives 'Teh Left' marching orders.
Thank you for the clarification, ice.
| 518 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 9:26:43am |
Go Blumenthal...
"Blumenthal still holds a large 25-point lead over Republican challenger Linda McMahon in this morning's Quinnipiac University poll."
[Link: www.theday.com...]
Got to give a whole lot of credit to voters who can fore go partisan politics and vote candidate instead of party.
| 519 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:27:27am |
re: #514 iceweasel
Hey cutie! Not sure yet-- dealing with some visa crap. But I'm hoping we'll make it to the Bronx zoo.
What's new with you? Love to you and Winston both!
Is that a good zoo? We've got two good ones in the Chicago area, plus another in Milwaukee.
| 520 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:28:22am |
re: #434 NJDhockeyfan
If someone moved next door and was watching my family with binoculars every day I wouldn't be very happy either. I know she's a public figure but I've always thought kids were off limits.
Has he actually been watching them with binoculars, or is this like Sharia law in America?
| 521 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:28:54am |
re: #514 iceweasel
Hey cutie! Not sure yet-- dealing with some visa crap. But I'm hoping we'll make it to the Bronx zoo.
What's new with you? Love to you and Winston both!
Keep away from the monkeys. They like to fling poo!!
Oh ,, wait ,, you're used to debating here so it's not an issue@!!
///
| 522 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:29:15am |
| 523 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 9:29:34am |
re: #518 Walter L. Newton
Go Blumenthal...
"Blumenthal still holds a large 25-point lead over Republican challenger Linda McMahon in this morning's Quinnipiac University poll."
[Link: www.theday.com...]
Got to give a whole lot of credit to voters who can fore go partisan politics and vote candidate instead of party.
People in Connecticut are pretty good like that .... that's why the folks chose Joe Lieberman in 2006 over Ned Lamont. When we vote for republicans, generally they are moderate republicans. Blumenthal will almost certainly win, basically because he HAS been an effective AG.
| 524 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:30:06am |
re: #516 sattv4u2
And he (they) called for Obama to be impeached, because thats what you intimated here
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Whatever dude. You know that this is where it's heading.
[Link: thehill.com...]
| 525 |
lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 9:30:27am |
re: #519 Dark_Falcon
The Bronx Zoo is a really good one... maybe just a notch below the National Zoo or San Diego.
| 526 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 9:30:27am |
re: #514 iceweasel
Hey cutie! Not sure yet-- dealing with some visa crap. But I'm hoping we'll make it to the Bronx zoo.
What's new with you? Love to you and Winston both!
It's race weekend! Did you read where I found a house yesterday?
It's called a tree house in the woods..It's a house on stilts with big airy rooms and large windows looking out on the trees....You don't need drapes..
It's nature all the time for the view.. I'm pretty jacked to move now...
| 527 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:30:28am |
re: #520 SanFranciscoZionist
Has he actually been watching them with binoculars, or is this like Sharia law in America?
As I stated upthread. Probably doesn't have too. He's in the house next door, and it looks as if the houses are in close proximity
That stated, we have no idea whether or not he has or will or even has or will have binoculars
| 528 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:30:48am |
re: #510 iceweasel
The Great Orange Satan is what many of us lefty types call dkos, to mock those who imagine that Kos gives 'Teh Left' marching orders.
Ah, Markos "Hilliary doesn't deserve fairness on this site" Moulitsas. Yeah, he's a real standup kinda guy...
| 529 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:31:48am |
re: #454 NJDhockeyfan
WaPo refers to him as legendary.
He may be legendary, but I'd never heard of him until this.
| 530 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:32:11am |
re: #524 bluecheese
Whatever dude. You know that this is where it's heading.
[Link: thehill.com...]
Yes,, it "COULD" head there, and SHOULD IF there was a crime committed.
But you stated it is now at the level of the calls for Bush's impeachemnt. Clearly, as of this moment, it is not
| 531 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:32:32am |
re: #528 Aceofwhat?
Buy water!!!
[Link: www.noaanews.noaa.gov...]
| 532 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:32:34am |
re: #529 SanFranciscoZionist
Legendary world class douche if ya ask me.
| 533 |
gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 9:32:34am |
re: #499 iceweasel
Palin is a grifter, an opportunist, and a liar.
In what way is this different from most other politicians?
What amazes me is that anyone still listens to her.
Should you believe her? No. Should you listen to her? Yes.
At least that's my usual policy for keeping an eye on the political scene.
| 534 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:32:39am |
re: #511 sattv4u2
K,, thanks
(I don't get out much!!)
Hey satt-- I saw you're familiar with Joe McGuinness. You might be interested in Janet Malcolm's book The Journalist and the Murderer, if you read Fatal Vision. It's a book about the writing of the book Fatal Vision and Jeffrey MacDonald's lawsuit against McGuiness as a result. (which MacDonald won)
It's an interesting book especially for those interested in the practice of journalism and biography, and an author's responsibilities (if any) toward the subject.
| 535 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 9:33:01am |
re: #523 _remembertonyc
People in Connecticut are pretty good like that ... that's why the folks chose Joe Lieberman in 2006 over Ned Lamont. When we vote for republicans, generally they are moderate republicans. Blumenthal will almost certainly win, basically because he HAS been an effective AG.
That's why I'm more of a black and white sort of person, and I don't have to worry about compromising my morals... I wouldn't give two-shits if this guy was God, I'd rather go to fucking hell than give him one single bit of support... and you don't even want to know what I think of anyone who would vote for him... Charles would ban me.
| 536 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:33:28am |
re: #529 SanFranciscoZionist
He may be legendary, but I'd never heard of him until this.
Fatal Vision
chilling
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 537 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:33:38am |
re: #531 Cannadian Club Akbar
Buy water!!!
[Link: www.noaanews.noaa.gov...]
heh. is this the same "look forward" that they screw up almost every year?
| 538 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:34:05am |
| 539 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:34:16am |
re: #394 Dark_Falcon
It's got a gap underneath, but it's tasteful and a nice color.
There's nothing tasteful about a 12 ft fence. The Palin compound is beginning to look like a private fort. And it's purposely higher to block the view of the neighbor so they can't even see the lake. The Palins are fucking assholes. I hope the neighbor sues or that there's a law on the books that says a fence can only be 6 to 8 feet high.
| 540 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:34:43am |
re: #537 Aceofwhat?
heh. is this the same "look forward" that they screw up almost every year?
Yes. It will change. But my local weather dude said the Tropics are very warm...
| 541 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 9:34:46am |
re: #535 Walter L. Newton
That's why I'm more of a black and white sort of person, and I don't have to worry about compromising my morals... I wouldn't give two-shits if this guy was God, I'd rather go to fucking hell than give him one single bit of support... and you don't even want to know what I think of anyone who would vote for him... Charles would ban me.
Are you talking about Blumenthal or Lieberman?
| 542 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:34:52am |
re: #534 iceweasel
Hey satt-- I saw you're familiar with Joe McGuinness. You might be interested in Janet Malcolm's book The Journalist and the Murderer, if you read Fatal Vision. It's a book about the writing of the book Fatal Vision and Jeffrey MacDonald's lawsuit against McGuiness as a result. (which MacDonald won)
It's an interesting book especially for those interested in the practice of journalism and biography, and an author's responsibilities (if any) toward the subject.
It sits on my bookshelf right beside Fatal Vision (cause thats how I roll!!)
| 543 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:35:00am |
re: #530 sattv4u2
So yes, you think the Republicans should pursue this then...."If", and all that...
Is this good strategy do you think, on the part of the Republicans?
| 544 |
Reginald Perrin Thu, May 27, 2010 9:35:24am |
re: #520 SanFranciscoZionist
Has he actually been watching them with binoculars, or is this like Sharia law in America?
Watching with binoculars is so twentieth century.
For goodness sakes, if he was really stalking her every movement it would be with HD video cameras equipped with telephoto lenses. Is it possible that Sara has an overactive imagination and loves to play the victim card.
| 545 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 9:35:42am |
re: #541 _remembertonyc
Are you talking about Blumenthal or Lieberman?
Blumenthal and anyone who would vote for him.
| 546 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:35:49am |
re: #533 gamark
Should you believe her? No. Should you listen to her? Yes.
At least that's my usual policy for keeping an eye on the political scene.
Well, for someone to stand out as a grifter, a liar and an opportunist in the political field is really saying something, isn't it?
Yeah, I monitor Palin just like I do a few other freaks, but I'd rather not have to.
| 547 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 9:36:05am |
re: #539 darthstar
There's nothing tasteful about a 12 ft fence. The Palin compound is beginning to look like a private fort. And it's purposely higher to block the view of the neighbor so they can't even see the lake. The Palins are fucking assholes. I hope the neighbor sues or that there's a law on the books that says a fence can only be 6 to 8 feet high.
You don't think people should be secure in their private property?
| 548 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:37:06am |
re: #543 bluecheese
So yes, you think the Republicans should pursue this then..."If", and all that...
Is this good strategy do you think, on the part of the Republicans?
I think it's good stratergy on the part of the country IF a crime was committed by either
A) Sestak
or
B) someone in the admin
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The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:37:48am |
re: #519 Dark_Falcon
Is that a good zoo? We've got two good ones in the Chicago area, plus another in Milwaukee.
Hey DF! How are you? What's happening with the job-- did you take it? And how is your mom? I haven't been around but I try to keep up--best wishes.
Hoops, CONGRATS on the house! Sounds great!
BTW, my laptop is dragging here, so if I vanish or don't answer someone's comment, that's why.
| 550 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:37:57am |
re: #544 Reginald Perrin
Watching with binoculars is so twentieth century.
For goodness sakes, if he was really stalking her every movement it would be with HD video cameras equipped with telephoto lenses. Is it possible that Sara has an overactive imagination and loves to play the victim card.
do we know why he moved there in the first place?
| 551 |
Semper Fi Thu, May 27, 2010 9:38:11am |
re: #495 SanFranciscoZionist
Check around online. Do you recall where you got it to begin with?
Confess haven't checked online. Hadn't occurred to me. Probably because I bought the one I have in Chinatown LA. You know, 5 t-shirts for $10. I've shopped there and at other Chinatown stores many times since without finding a replacement.
| 552 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:39:07am |
re: #539 darthstar
There's nothing tasteful about a 12 ft fence. The Palin compound is beginning to look like a private fort. And it's purposely higher to block the view of the neighbor so they can't even see the lake. The Palins are fucking assholes. I hope the neighbor sues or that there's a law on the books that says a fence can only be 6 to 8 feet high.
Wasilla code:
Section16.16.050(19) Appearance. The proposed use may be required to blend in with the general neighborhood appearance and architecture. Building spacing, setbacks, lot coverage, and height must be designed to provide adequate provisions for natural light and air.
To the courts! And beyond!
| 553 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:39:17am |
re: #550 Aceofwhat?
do we know why he moved there in the first place?
The mosquitoes bloom nicely in Alaska in the spring!
| 554 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:39:58am |
re: #539 darthstar
There's nothing tasteful about a 12 ft fence. The Palin compound is beginning to look like a private fort. And it's purposely higher to block the view of the neighbor so they can't even see the lake. The Palins are fucking assholes. I hope the neighbor sues or that there's a law on the books that says a fence can only be 6 to 8 feet high.
It's fucking Alaska. Who cares?
| 555 |
lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 9:40:05am |
re: #544 Reginald Perrin
Heh. Or infrared cameras...
Fences? Where we're going... we don't need fences.... ///
| 556 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 9:40:35am |
re: #549 iceweasel
Thanks.. I forgot to mention it has a deck all around the house...
Really a sweet setup..
Good luck getting that Visa
| 557 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:40:44am |
re: #553 sattv4u2
The mosquitoes bloom nicely in Alaska in the spring!
Bingo, Bango, Bongo and Irving?
/
| 558 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 9:41:03am |
re: #545 Walter L. Newton
Blumenthal and anyone who would vote for him.
Depending on which poll you look at, Blumenthal's lead could be less than what the Quinnipiac poll stated. I heard about another poll where the lead was much smaller. Linda McMahon is by no means a great candidate on the Republican side, but she has $50 million of her own money to spend on the campaign. In CT, that's a lot. If Blumenthal wins (as expected), it will be more a rejection of McMahon than an embrace of Blumenthal. But as I said, many in the state have admired the job he has done as Atty General. There is another Republican in the race (Peter Schiff), but his name recognition is far below McMahon's. I will say this for Connecticut voters, they are not as "deep blue" as you may think. We just prefer our republicans to be of the moderate variety, not the Paul/Bachmann/Heyworth types.
| 559 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:41:24am |
re: #547 MandyManners
You don't think people should be secure in their private property?
Sure...but building a 12 foot fence that blocks a neighbor's existing view of a lake (yes, their house is also in the view) out of spite isn't about privacy, it's called being an asshole. How would you feel if your neighbors did the same (assuming you have neighbors and don't live in a house set back so far nobody can see you making cookies in the nude)?
| 560 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:41:46am |
re: #528 Aceofwhat?
Ah, Markos "Hilliary doesn't deserve fairness on this site" Moulitsas. Yeah, he's a real standup kinda guy...
Screw him.
| 561 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:42:13am |
re: #559 darthstar
Sure...but building a 12 foot fence that blocks a neighbor's existing view of a lake (yes, their house is also in the view) out of spite isn't about privacy, it's called being an asshole.
Is there a picture of this anywhere?
| 562 |
Reginald Perrin Thu, May 27, 2010 9:42:15am |
re: #550 Aceofwhat?
do we know why he moved there in the first place?
I doubt he moved there to be seen using binoculars while watching Palin cut her lawn.
| 563 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:00am |
re: #557 Cannadian Club Akbar
Bingo, Bango, Bongo and Irving?
/
not THOSE "'squitoes"
THESE "squitoes"
| 564 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:15am |
re: #559 darthstar
My dog thinks I'm an asshole for wanting a six foot fence!
So I would concur.....
But mine would be to keep him in......
| 565 |
gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:21am |
re: #546 iceweasel
Well, for someone to stand out as a grifter, a liar and an opportunist in the political field is really saying something, isn't it?
Indeed. It says she isn't as good at hiding it as the rest.
| 566 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:28am |
The President should be on TV in a few for his presser....who wants to bet all the questions will be about Sesteck and none about the disaster except to ask why he has not put on his cape and swam to the ocean foor to close the holes with his laser beam eyes?
(and no it is not his first since July, he had one in April)
| 567 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:33am |
re: #554 Aceofwhat?
It's fucking Alaska. Who cares?
I suppose other Alaskans who have the unfortunate luck of living near the Palins. Still, it's a petty and trashy response by the Palins. Class isn't one of their strong suits...that would have merely required saying, "oh well, we've got an author next door for three months"...
| 568 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:49am |
| 569 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:43:57am |
re: #564 reloadingisnotahobby
My dog thinks I'm an asshole for wanting a six foot fence!
So I would concur...
But mine would be to keep him in...
Mines 8 feet high
(dog went UNDER it, the lil shit!)
| 570 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 9:44:23am |
re: #559 darthstar
Sure...but building a 12 foot fence that blocks a neighbor's existing view of a lake (yes, their house is also in the view) out of spite isn't about privacy, it's called being an asshole. How would you feel if your neighbors did the same (assuming you have neighbors and don't live in a house set back so far nobody can see you making cookies in the nude)?
I never bake nekkid.
| 571 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:44:43am |
re: #556 HoosierHoops
Thanks.. I forgot to mention it has a deck all around the house...
Really a sweet setup..
Good luck getting that Visa
Sounds fantastic! Congrats! Winston will love it!!
DF-- yes, the Bronx zoo is awesome! They have three lion cubs at the moment.
Cub cam! (somewhere on the site and on youtube)
| 572 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:44:52am |
| 573 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:44:58am |
re: #562 Reginald Perrin
I doubt he moved there to be seen using binoculars while watching Palin cut her lawn.
It's equally doubtful that he moved there to hunt moose. So, until we know more, it's reasonable to speculate that he's probably not spied on her with binoculars but is making a popularity play nonetheless.
bluecheese was right. grade A douchebag at 10 o'clock...
| 574 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:45:10am |
Reporting from Houma, La. —
Engineers have at least temporarily stopped the flow of oil and gas into the Gulf of Mexico from a gushing BP well, the federal government's top oil-spill commander, U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, said Thursday morning.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
not as interesting as a voyeur next door, but significant
| 575 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:45:20am |
re: #566 webevintage
The President should be on TV in a few for his presser...who wants to bet all the questions will be about Sesteck and none about the disaster except to ask why he has not put on his cape and swam to the ocean foor to close the holes with his laser beam eyes?
(and no it is not his first since July, he had one in April)
Yeah, the press are a bunch of assholes. They should just ask a bunch of softball questions and consider themselves lucky Obama didn't wait another year for a press conference.
/
| 576 |
bluecheese Thu, May 27, 2010 9:45:24am |
re: #568 darthstar
That pic doesn't show if the view to the lake is blocked.
I prolly would have done the same thing as Sarah.... Building codes be damned.
This dude is a douche.
| 577 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 9:45:45am |
re: #570 MandyManners
Baking naked is ok, just don't try to cook bacon naked.
| 578 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 27, 2010 9:46:01am |
re: #570 MandyManners
Your not doing right!!
I know...*wack*
| 579 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:46:05am |
re: #490 NJDhockeyfan
It wasn't his fault he lied under oath about the blow jobs. HE"S the real victim here!
Oh, for God's sake.
| 580 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:46:14am |
| 581 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 27, 2010 9:46:17am |
re: #578 reloadingisnotahobby
Your not doing IT right!!
I know...*wack*
| 582 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:46:42am |
re: #542 sattv4u2
It sits on my bookshelf right beside Fatal Vision (cause thats how I roll!!)
kewl!
I think both are great books, personally.
| 583 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:46:58am |
re: #544 Reginald Perrin
Watching with binoculars is so twentieth century.
For goodness sakes, if he was really stalking her every movement it would be with HD video cameras equipped with telephoto lenses. Is it possible that Sara has an overactive imagination and loves to play the victim card.
I'm going to cut the overactive imagination part some slack, since she does have two teenage daughters. That must be enough to induce paranoia in anyone. Oh course that would be an easier case to make without the photo shoots:
[Link: www.eonline.com...]
| 584 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:47:08am |
re: #575 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the press are a bunch of assholes. They should just ask a bunch of softball questions and consider themselves lucky Obama didn't wait another year for a press conference.
/
Oh for heaven's sake...I did not say that.
| 585 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:47:21am |
re: #498 albusteve
except when it comes to controlling our borders...a small thing I guess
Oh, well, I guess we are all gonna die. (Runs around screaming.)
| 586 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 27, 2010 9:47:23am |
re: #568 darthstar
From that photo look like anything could go under it.
| 587 |
Reginald Perrin Thu, May 27, 2010 9:47:54am |
re: #573 Aceofwhat?
I'm not defending the grade A douchebag. I was only doubting Sara's claim about be watched with binoculars.
| 588 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:47:54am |
80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader
An 80-year-old Chicago man shot and killed an armed man who broke into his two-story house in a pre-dawn home invasion Wednesday on the city's West Side.
At about 5:20 a.m., the homeowner and his wife, also in her 80s, discovered the intruder entering their home through a back door. The homeowner, who had a gun, confronted and killed the burglar on the doorstep, police said. Cops said the intruder also fired his gun during the struggle.
"It's a good thing they had a gun, or they might be dead," said Curtis Thompson, who lives next door to the couple, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.
Neighbors described the elderly couple, who both walk with canes, as pillars of the community in Garfield Park, where home invasions have been all too frequent.
Their neighbor, Shaquite Johnson, told MyFoxChicago that the two are "heroes" for fighting off the attacker — and that the shooting means there is "one less criminal" walking the streets.
"They don't bother no one, so why would anyone do that to them?" she said.
Relatives of the couple told the Sun Times that the man is an Army veteran, his wife a former nurse. Police said neither the man nor the woman was injured in the attack.
The assailant, who was described by police as being in his 30s, was found slumped on the back doorstep of the couple's house, removed four hours after the shooting, the Sun Times reported.
No charges have been filed against the homeowner, but Chicago currently has a statute outlawing the possession of handguns. Its legality is currently being decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.
A high-profile Chicago attorney has already stepped forward offering to represent the man pro bono if he faces charges for possessing a weapon.
"Self-defense isn't just a right, it's a duty," said attorney Joel Brodsky. "If this man is prosecuted for saving his own life it's not just a travesty, it's justice turned inside out."
Fuck yeah!
| 589 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:48:28am |
re: #587 Reginald Perrin
I'm not defending the grade A douchebag. I was only doubting Sara's claim about be watched with binoculars.
oh. my bad. i'm with you there.
| 590 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:48:45am |
re: #549 iceweasel
Hey DF! How are you? What's happening with the job-- did you take it? And how is your mom? I haven't been around but I try to keep up--best wishes.
Hoops, CONGRATS on the house! Sounds great!
BTW, my laptop is dragging here, so if I vanish or don't answer someone's comment, that's why.
I don't know about the job. It was supposed to start yesterday but I got downlined by what I found out was a low-level lung infection, so I may have missed my chance. My mother is home and recovering well.
| 591 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:48:46am |
re: #588 NJDhockeyfan
I read that earlier....waiting for a statement from Daly
| 592 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:49:25am |
re: #588 NJDhockeyfan
wait, but how did the criminal get a gun? i thought they were banned...
| 593 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:49:41am |
re: #583 Dark_Falcon
I'm going to cut the overactive imagination part some slack, since she does have two teenage daughters. That must be enough to induce paranoia in anyone.
Actually Bristol no longer lives at home, she bought a 3 story townhouse somewhere.
But it is ok, there are still the 2 others that Ma Palin can say the guy is spying on because her victimhood is always wapped up nice and shiny with her kids.
| 594 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:49:49am |
re: #585 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, well, I guess we are all gonna die. (Runs around screaming.)
take a deep breath and relax
| 595 |
Killgore Trout Thu, May 27, 2010 9:49:52am |
Palin neighbor sought author as tenant
"No one is stalking anyone," Joe McGinniss, Jr., a novelist whose father is the non-fiction writer, wrote in response to an email from a Palin supporter who confused his email address and his father's. (He shared the email with me.) "A woman was renting her house and sought out the author because the Palins had crossed her (owed her money for renovations she had done at their request and never paid her for). So she knew McGinniss was writing the book and found him and offered him the house."
| 596 |
Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:00am |
Anyone notice lately that Rush is a complete dick? Listened to him for about 5 minutes this morning and the guy is a total douchebag.
| 598 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:02am |
re: #580 darthstar
Well, that makes one of us.
Heh. Baking nekked-- not a problem.
I just made this: Chocolate Raspberry Cream Pie.
Recommend!
| 599 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:10am |
Police in Alaska puzzled by 26 headless chickens
FAIRBANKS, Alaska (AP) -- Alaska State Troopers are puzzled by a gruesome discovery in the city of North Pole: 26 headless chickens carefully arranged at a coop.Police say the fly-infested carcasses found Monday were arranged in a 12- to 15-foot-long line pattern that ended in a circle. There was no sign of the missing heads.
| 600 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:13am |
NEW YORK -- The late Pat Tillman and Heisman Trophy winner Desmond Howard are among the 14 newly elected members of the College Football Hall of Fame.
The National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame announced its latest class Thursday at a news conference at the Nasdaq Stock Exchange in Manhattan.
Tillman played linebacker for Arizona State from 1994 to 1997 and gave up an NFL career to enlist in the Army in 2002. He killed while serving in Afghanistan in 2004.
Howard was a wide receiver for Michigan and won the Heisman 1991.
The newly elected Hall of Fame coaches are Barry Alvarez and Gene Stallings.
Howard, who played at Michigan, is a college football analyst with ESPN.
The other players in the new Hall class include Dennis Byrd of North Carolina State; Ronnie Caveness of Arkansas; Ray Childress of Texas A&M; Randy Cross of UCLA; Sam Cunningham of USC; Mark Herrmann of Purdue; Clarkston Hines of Duke; Chet Moeller of Navy; Jerry Stovall of LSU; and Alfred Williams of Colorado.
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]
| 601 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:27am |
re: #558 _remembertonyc
Depending on which poll you look at, Blumenthal's lead could be less than what the Quinnipiac poll stated. I heard about another poll where the lead was much smaller. Linda McMahon is by no means a great candidate on the Republican side, but she has $50 million of her own money to spend on the campaign. In CT, that's a lot. If Blumenthal wins (as expected), it will be more a rejection of McMahon than an embrace of Blumenthal. But as I said, many in the state have admired the job he has done as Atty General. There is another Republican in the race (Peter Schiff), but his name recognition is far below McMahon's. I will say this for Connecticut voters, they are not as "deep blue" as you may think. We just prefer our republicans to be of the moderate variety, not the Paul/Bachmann/Heyworth types.
Big lead, small lead, what the fucks the difference, obviously those Cn. voters that have put Blumenthal in some sort of leave don't give two shits about supporting a lier. That's my point. I don't care if they were yellow with blue polka dots. Are you excusing this or something?
| 602 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:31am |
| 603 |
Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:48am |
re: #598 iceweasel
Nekkid is fine but do not forget the baking gloves. :)
| 604 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:50am |
re: #527 sattv4u2
As I stated upthread. Probably doesn't have too. He's in the house next door, and it looks as if the houses are in close proximity
That stated, we have no idea whether or not he has or will or even has or will have binoculars
So, basically, he moved in next door. I can understand Palin's being annoyed, but that's not illegal, or unethical.
| 605 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:50:57am |
re: #588 NJDhockeyfan
80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader
Fuck yeah!
My parents winter in Palm Springs (like a lot of retirees), and they know a guy who heard someone breaking into his house...found him crawling through the window, a gun in one hand. The guy took the burgler's gun and shot him before he'd even gotten all the way through the window. No charges were filed.
| 606 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 9:51:05am |
re: #596 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Anyone notice lately that Rush is a complete dick? Listened to him for about 5 minutes this morning and the guy is a total douchebag.
Then change the station.
| 608 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 9:51:07am |
First phase of the "top kill" appears to be successful - leak is stopped (for now). They still have to set the cement.
| 609 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:51:20am |
re: #587 Reginald Perrin
I'm not defending the grade A douchebag. I was only doubting Sara's claim about be watched with binoculars.
wait ,,, it's the veracity of whether or not McGinnis has binoculars at the ready or not that bothers you, not that he has rented the house next door!?!?!
From the photo, it looks as if the houses are in pretty close proximity. Where I live, we have pretty fair sized lots WITH stockade fences between some of the yards and I can STILL see a lot of what goes on in my neighbors yard from my second floor
| 610 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:51:25am |
re: #595 Killgore Trout
Well I guess that will teach the Palins to be nicer to their neighbors and pay their bills.
Not like they can't afford it now...
(and why am I not surprised?)
| 611 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:51:44am |
re: #588 NJDhockeyfan
80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader
Fuck yeah!
Indeed. He won't be prosecuted either. Everyone knows how bad that would look. The last time an elderly man shot a burglar in Chicago it didn't even go to a grand jury, the State's Attorney ruled it justifiable.
| 612 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 9:51:48am |
| 613 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:52:41am |
re: #592 Aceofwhat?
wait, but how did the criminal get a gun? i thought they were banned...
heh,, good theing the 80 year old applied for his a LONG time ago, or he'd still be waiting!
| 614 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 9:53:14am |
BP is already fishing for a friendly venue for the inevitable court proceedings revolving around their negligence in the gulf.
[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]
| 615 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:53:53am |
| 616 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:53:57am |
| 617 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:54:06am |
re: #550 Aceofwhat?
do we know why he moved there in the first place?
I thought he was writing a book about La Sarah.
| 618 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:54:12am |
re: #590 Dark_Falcon
I don't know about the job. It was supposed to start yesterday but I got downlined by what I found out was a low-level lung infection, so I may have missed my chance. My mother is home and recovering well.
oh no! I'm so glad to hear about your mom, but what's this about the lung infection? Yikes-- I hope it isn't painful and that you recover quickly. Jimmah and I will keep you in our thoughts.
| 619 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:54:32am |
re: #604 SanFranciscoZionist
So, basically, he moved in next door. I can understand Palin's being annoyed, but that's not illegal, or unethical.
I've never stated that it was In fact
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 620 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:54:51am |
| 621 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:55:01am |
re: #605 darthstar
My parents winter in Palm Springs (like a lot of retirees), and they know a guy who heard someone breaking into his house...found him crawling through the window, a gun in one hand. The guy took the burgler's gun and shot him before he'd even gotten all the way through the window. No charges were filed.
I lived in Denver in the 70s...two guys break into a garden level bedroom armed with a shotgun...the wife takes on one guy, the husband fought the other and finally got his shotgun from him, both intruders go for the window...one gets out and the other was shot dead where he stood...hubby chases the second guy several block and shoots him dead as well....no charges
| 622 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:55:39am |
| 623 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:55:40am |
re: #567 darthstar
I suppose other Alaskans who have the unfortunate luck of living near the Palins. Still, it's a petty and trashy response by the Palins. Class isn't one of their strong suits...that would have merely required saying, "oh well, we've got an author next door for three months"...
And showing up at his door on moving day with cookies and a Tupperware of moose stew...that would have been stylish.
| 624 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 9:55:53am |
Of course he's having a presser. It's a perfect excuse to bash capitalism.
| 625 |
Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:55:57am |
| 626 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 9:56:20am |
Yeah, and ding me down. I don't give a fuck.
| 627 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:56:56am |
re: #624 MandyManners
Of course he's having a presser. It's a perfect excuse to bash capitalism.
You'd criticize him if he didn't go to the gulf and have a presser, Mandy, it's a win-win for you...that must feel nice.
| 628 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:57:32am |
re: #583 Dark_Falcon
I'm going to cut the overactive imagination part some slack, since she does have two teenage daughters. That must be enough to induce paranoia in anyone. Oh course that would be an easier case to make without the photo shoots:
[Link: www.eonline.com...]
Bristol is a grow woman, and she can do what she wants. That said...ehhh.
| 629 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:57:33am |
re: #627 darthstar
You'd criticize him if he didn't go to the gulf and have a presser, Mandy. It's a win-win for you...that must feel nice.
fuckin' comma splice...pimf.
| 630 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 9:57:33am |
re: #624 MandyManners
Of course he's having a presser. It's a perfect excuse to bash capitalism.
lol. SOCIALMALIST!
| 631 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 9:57:36am |
re: #623 SanFranciscoZionist
And showing up at his door on moving day with cookies and a Tupperware of moose stew...that would have been stylish.
while reminding him that she shot it herself...heh...there are definitely more clever and less whiny ways of telling a neighbor to watch themselves;)
| 632 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 9:57:48am |
re: #627 darthstar
It's nice and tidy when you can see a man's soul, and know it is darkness.
No need to think then. Must be so nice and simple.
| 633 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 9:57:58am |
No new deepwater wells for 6 months; suspension of current ones.
The Roi will be in Nigeria or Brazil, I guess.
| 634 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 9:58:04am |
re: #626 MandyManners
Yeah, and ding me down. I don't give a fuck.
I'd rather ding you up, and I don't mean that in a dishonorable way either.
| 635 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 9:58:06am |
re: #624 MandyManners
Of course he's having a presser. It's a perfect excuse to bash capitalism.
WTF?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:58:20am |
re: #633 reine.de.tout
No new deepwater wells for 6 months; suspension of current ones.
The Roi will be in Nigeria or Brazil, I guess.
:(
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:58:27am |
re: #632 Fozzie Bear
It's nice and tidy when you can see a man's soul, and know it is darkness.
No need to think then. Must be so nice and simple.
It's the darkness of his skin, and not his soul, that's the problem.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 9:58:32am |
re: #586 reloadingisnotahobby
From that photo look like anything could go under it.
Including a reporter with binoculars--but at that point, I think they'd be legally justified in shooting him.
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Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 9:58:40am |
I did learn on Rush that Obama's press conference was scheduled as a direct attack on Rush's show, meant to interrupt his message to the people.
Now who is the narcissist?
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Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 9:59:05am |
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albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 9:59:32am |
re: #639 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I did learn on Rush that Obama's press conference was scheduled as a direct attack on Rush's show, meant to interrupt his message to the people.
Now who is the narcissist?
BO needs every edge he can find, Chicago style
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Renaissance_Man Thu, May 27, 2010 9:59:49am |
re: #639 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I did learn on Rush that Obama's press conference was scheduled as a direct attack on Rush's show, meant to interrupt his message to the people.
Now who is the narcissist?
Naturally. Who do you think is the leader of the free world, after all? Surely not the Usurper.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 9:59:58am |
re: #637 darthstar
It's the darkness of his skin, and not his soul, that's the problem.
As said Dennis Miller said
"I don;t care about the color of his skin. I care about the lack of thickness of it"
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webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:00:31am |
re: #623 SanFranciscoZionist
And showing up at his door on moving day with cookies and a Tupperware of moose stew...that would have been stylish.
Instead Todd came over had a talk with him and then Track came out in the yard and snapped some pictures of Joe on his deck. Then Palin posted the picture on Facebook while claiming her new status as victim of a stalker who just might be a pedophile.
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:00:35am |
NJD was upset last night because Obama was not addressing this.
Mandy is upset today because Obama IS addressing this.
argh.
Obama is not my most favorite president of all times. In fact, he's very close to the bottom of the list.
But it is time that he make a statement. I think some of what he's saying is a crock - but he needs to be making a statement.
| 646 |
Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 27, 2010 10:01:11am |
re: #599 NJDhockeyfan
The UFO aliens had a budget cut. Had to cut back on molesting cows and corn fields...
/
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The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:01:26am |
re: #635 webevintage
WTF?
Mandy is just sad she's no longer allowed to refer to him as "Barack Fucking Commie Bastard Hussein Obama", which was her earlier charming cognomen for our POTUS. Until Charles put a foot down about that.
Life's hard for a wingnut.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:01:26am |
re: #643 sattv4u2
As said Dennis Miller said
"I don;t care about the color of his skin. I care about the lack of thickness of it"
I hate when I repeat myself repeatedly.
/
| 649 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:01:37am |
re: #609 sattv4u2
wait ,,, it's the veracity of whether or not McGinnis has binoculars at the ready or not that bothers you, not that he has rented the house next door!?!?!
From the photo, it looks as if the houses are in pretty close proximity. Where I live, we have pretty fair sized lots WITH stockade fences between some of the yards and I can STILL see a lot of what goes on in my neighbors yard from my second floor
Yes, but there's nothing wrong, or illegal, with renting the house next door. Annoying? Yes. But it'sallowed.
| 650 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:01:41am |
re: #628 SanFranciscoZionist
Bristol is a grow woman, and she can do what she wants. That said...ehhh.
I was just saying. That Bristol wanted her younger sister in the shoot didn't surprise me much. Both of them are of an age where they want to be seen as beautiful and get lots of attention. Doesn't bother me at all, but I'm sure it worries Sarah Palin a good bit.
| 651 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:02:22am |
re: #601 Walter L. Newton
Big lead, small lead, what the fucks the difference, obviously those Cn. voters that have put Blumenthal in some sort of leave don't give two shits about supporting a lier. That's my point. I don't care if they were yellow with blue polka dots. Are you excusing this or something?
Did I say I was voting for Blumenthal?
| 652 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:02:29am |
re: #647 iceweasel
I love the smell of ODS in the morning.
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Renaissance_Man Thu, May 27, 2010 10:02:45am |
re: #645 reine.de.tout
NJD was upset last night because Obama was not addressing this.
Mandy is upset today because Obama IS addressing this.
argh.
They are not upset because of any address or lack thereof. They are indeed not upset about any event or lack of event.
They are upset because Obama is President.
Therein lies the difference.
| 654 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:02:49am |
re: #647 iceweasel
Mandy is just sad she's no longer allowed to refer to him as "Barack Fucking Commie Bastard Hussein Obama", which was her earlier charming cognomen for our POTUS. Until Charles put a foot down about that.
Life's hard for a wingnut.
Mandy's not a wingnut, Ice.
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albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:03:48am |
re: #647 iceweasel
Mandy is just sad she's no longer allowed to refer to him as "Barack Fucking Commie Bastard Hussein Obama", which was her earlier charming cognomen for our POTUS. Until Charles put a foot down about that.
Life's hard for a wingnut.
it seems like persistent personal attacks would be beneath you....guess not eh?
| 656 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:03:49am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:03:54am |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:03:57am |
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darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:04:53am |
| 661 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:05:03am |
re: #626 MandyManners
Yeah, and ding me down. I don't give a fuck.
the "virtue" police disapproved of your position. you needed to be punished!
| 662 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:05:05am |
re: #647 iceweasel
Mandy is just sad she's no longer allowed to refer to him as "Barack Fucking Commie Bastard Hussein Obama", which was her earlier charming cognomen for our POTUS. Until Charles put a foot down about that.
Life's hard for a wingnut.
OR ,, it could be stated that Charles didn't have a huge issue with it until a convergence of MoonBats harped on it (and her avatar) 24/7 for awhile, in that he knew what her avatar was and knew what the initials meant
just sayin ,,two sides to every coinage
| 664 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:05:28am |
re: #659 iceweasel
Smells like Cheetos and frustration.
I get frustrated when there are only Puffy Cheetos. Those suck.
/actually, they do suck
| 665 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:06:01am |
re: #653 Renaissance_Man
They are not upset because of any address or lack thereof. They are indeed not upset about any event or lack of event.
They are upset because Obama is President.
Therein lies the difference.
I think there is also some upset because Obama's seeming lack of attention to this (which doesn't really exist) has not garnered the same level of outrage from those who were outraged at Bush after Katrina.
Either outrage is ridiculous, in MY personal opinion.
And getting outraged a second time over nothing is not a solution, in my personal opinion.
But I'll say I can understand the frustration.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 10:06:25am |
re: #651 _remembertonyc
Did I say I was voting for Blumenthal?
I didn't ask if you were voting for him, I asked if you are excusing him?
| 667 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 10:08:27am |
re: #577 Fozzie Bear
Baking naked is ok, just don't try to cook
baconfranks n beans naked.
| 668 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:08:52am |
re: #662 sattv4u2
OR ,, it could be stated that Charles didn't have a huge issue with it until a convergence of MoonBats harped on it (and her avatar) 24/7 for awhile, in that he knew what her avatar was and knew what the initials meant
just sayin ,,two sides to every coinage
Yeah right. You really think Charles is going to say he doesn't like that term and doesn't want to see it---if he didn't mean exactly that?
Sorry, I tend to think he says what he means and means what he says, and he could not care less what other people's criticisms are when he thinks they're unfounded. That's exactly why he broke with the rightysphere, after all.
| 669 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:09:13am |
re: #645 reine.de.tout
NJD was upset last night because Obama was not addressing this.
Not true. I was inquiring about his lack of leadership on the spill. I am not the only one questioning this. Leaders from both parties have demanded action from Washington.
| 670 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:09:45am |
re: #665 reine.de.tout
I think there is also some upset because Obama's seeming lack of attention to this (which doesn't really exist) has not garnered the same level of outrage from those who were outraged at Bush after Katrina.
Either outrage is ridiculous, in MY personal opinion.
And getting outraged a second time over nothing is not a solution, in my personal opinion.
THIS.
| 671 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:09:48am |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
I didn't ask if you were voting for him, I asked if you are excusing him?
I lost respect for him after this affair. I liked him before, but lying is not acceptable, particularly for the top law enforcement official in the state.
| 672 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:10:24am |
scorching op ed about the teachers in NJ....so true, imo
In an astonishing fall from grace that has taken only months, teachers have gone from respected and beloved members of the community to some of the most reviled. In a blink, they have trashed years of good will.
Once the patient darlings who nurtured our kids, teachers now look like insensitive, out-of-touch, can’t-think-for-themselves union robots who, when forced to face economic realities, clung to an insulting sense of entitlement, heartlessly sacrificed the jobs of colleagues, called the governor naughty names and used students as political pawns.
[Link: blog.nj.com...]
| 673 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:10:46am |
re: #624 MandyManners
Since he hasn't had a scheduled Q and A since last July, he really didn't have a choice, either.
I thought he was doing okay for a while, but he keeps slipping into patronizing professor mode, and it's not becoming. ' those of you who see oil washing up of course will think we're acting too slowly '...... a little too much snark for a POTUS, IMO.
| 674 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:10:49am |
re: #669 NJDhockeyfan
Not true. I was inquiring about his lack of leadership on the spill. I am not the only one questioning this. Leaders from both parties have demanded action from Washington.
and some journalists too ....
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:11:08am |
re: #668 iceweasel
Yeah right. You really think Charles is going to say he doesn't like that term and doesn't want to see it---if he didn't mean exactly that?
She had both the avatar and the initials for a long time. I'm sure Charles may have not been thrilled, but it didn't become an issue until a group, including you, made an issue of it day after day
| 676 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:11:13am |
re: #661 _remembertonyc
the "virtue" police disapproved of your position. you needed to be punished!
Good God. As though Mandy is a victim who can't dish it out as good as she gets it. Does anyone here have more than their own biting wit and a dinger to use as social leverage?
| 677 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:11:34am |
re: #673 tradewind
Since he hasn't had a scheduled Q and A since last July, he really didn't have a choice, either.
April.
It was April....
| 678 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:12:17am |
re: #674 _remembertonyc
and some journalists too ...
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
Caraville torched him severely yesterday
| 679 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:13:18am |
re: #675 sattv4u2
Yeah right. You really think Charles is going to say he doesn't like that term and doesn't want to see it---if he didn't mean exactly that?
She had both the avatar and the initials for a long time. I'm sure Charles may have not been thrilled, but it didn't become an issue until a group, including you, made an issue of it day after day
Such sinister motives they had. Not wanting to see the name of God peed on, and not caring to see the President of the United States called a 'commie bastard'.
| 681 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:13:49am |
re: #669 NJDhockeyfan
Not true. I was inquiring about his lack of leadership on the spill. I am not the only one questioning this. Leaders from both parties have demanded action from Washington.
OK, fair enough.
I just don't think that his physical distance from the location does not necessarily mean he's provided no leadership. This press conference is where he's telling us what he (and his administration) have done.
| 682 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:06am |
re: #681 reine.de.tout
OK, fair enough.
I justdon'tthink that his physical distance from the location does not necessarily mean he's provided no leadership. This press conference is where he's telling us what he (and his administration) have done.
| 683 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:08am |
re: #676 SanFranciscoZionist
Good God. As though Mandy is a victim who can't dish it out as good as she gets it. Does anyone here have more than their own biting wit and a dinger to use as social leverage?
it's petty to rag on an avatar day after day, making something from nothing to satisfy one's ego
| 684 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:13am |
| 685 |
ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:15am |
re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At least click it to get the Headline...
Hell, nine suicides (attempted or successful) is nothing. Peanuts. The French telecom company Orange is working on their thirty-fourth (or is it the thirty-fifth) this year. They generally jump out of the windows of their offices, but a few have been a bit more creative. The problem: young managers more or less fresh out of business school(s). Dis-connection from the people they're managing. Ask me about the suicide rate in French prisons some day. No need for the death penalty here: France is doing way better than the entire U.S. in permanently eliminating her prisoners; Often young kids arrested for simple misdemeanors, and who totally throw in the towel after a few months in the country's prison system, judged to be among the very worst in Europe.
| 686 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:17am |
re: #676 SanFranciscoZionist
Good God. As though Mandy is a victim who can't dish it out as good as she gets it. Does anyone here have more than their own biting wit and a dinger to use as social leverage?
i rarely downding anyone ... and I think I have never downdinged you. sorry if my sense of humor offended you .... I've had much worse things said to me ...
| 687 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:49am |
| 688 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 10:14:54am |
DAMMIT i took the day off to do a daddy thing at my daughter's school this morning and the French Open is being rained out...CURSE my luck...
| 689 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:15:13am |
re: #675 sattv4u2
Yeah right. You really think Charles is going to say he doesn't like that term and doesn't want to see it---if he didn't mean exactly that?
She had both the avatar and the initials for a long time. I'm sure Charles may have not been thrilled, but it didn't become an issue until a group, including you, made an issue of it day after day
That's factually incorrect. Charles got pissed off about that lovely nickname. I believe there had been only some mild criticism of it at the time.
As for the Great Avatar Scandal, what a shame Mandy couldn't take the hint and change it herself, eh? That's what he said he was hoping she'd do.
You are, of course, wrong to claim *I* made an issue of her avatar every day, but you clearly aren't interested in accuracy.
| 690 |
lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 10:15:13am |
President Obama's conduct in dealing with the oil spill is less than sterling, but what exactly is he to do? It's not like he can go out to the rig and turn off the spigot himself.
The gov't doesn't have the resources in place to stop the spill or deal with the effects of a spill (and that reflects badly on him, his subordinates in the DOI and on the prior Administration). His Secretary of Interior made asinine statements about putting their boot to BP's neck, but BP is the sole party that has the ability to actually stop the leak (and now appears to have stopped further oil leaking from the well into the Gulf). BP has to make things right, and the govt has to make sure that they do so. That's the proper role of govt - and the President here.
A clear statement about what has to happen going forward - about clearing the way for aid to localities affected, to deal with the cleanup, and for a postmortem to be conducted over how deepwater rigs should be licensed with special interest paid to emergency procedures and the necessity for standby equipment to deal with spills should they occur.
| 691 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 10:15:30am |
Image: 0527-usa-soccer-twitter-credit.jpg
Biden meets with US Soccer team before they leave for the World Cup.
| 692 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:15:42am |
re: #677 webevintage
Sorry, I should have been more specific, as in
The president's last full-scale session with the press was on July 22, 2009, which was 307 days ago.
Not eight questions./
Read more at the Washington Examiner: [Link: www.washingtonexaminer.com...]
| 693 |
Charles Johnson Thu, May 27, 2010 10:15:49am |
re: #675 sattv4u2
Yeah right. You really think Charles is going to say he doesn't like that term and doesn't want to see it---if he didn't mean exactly that?
She had both the avatar and the initials for a long time. I'm sure Charles may have not been thrilled, but it didn't become an issue until a group, including you, made an issue of it day after day
No group of anybody will ever convince me to do anything I don't want to do. It's pretty foolish to blame someone else for actions I take.
For the record, I wasn't aware of the meaning of that little acronym until someone pointed it out. I expressed disapproval of it not because someone pointed it out, but because it's a disrespectful way to refer to the President of the US. That's the issue. Not who told me about it.
| 694 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:15:51am |
re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist
Such sinister motives they had. Not wanting to see the name of God peed on, and not caring to see the President of the United States called a 'commie bastard'.
Straw Man
I didn't then nor now defend the Avatar. I didn't then nor now defend the initials
Now that thats been said, what did I say in those two posts about how/ when it happened that is in error
| 695 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 10:16:05am |
re: #466 Stanley Sea
And I don't see the necessity of you implying to use your needle nose pliers on me. Gracias.
It is the most humane way I know to remove a fish hook from a bucketmouth.
;D
| 696 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:16:23am |
re: #683 albusteve
it's petty to rag on an avatar day after day, making something from nothing to satisfy one's ego
Maybe. I stayed out of it, and I said why at the time. But I wouldn't call their concerns 'nothing'.
| 697 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:16:34am |
Lets just hope the top kill worked, it sticks, they get a cement cap in place, and it's over. Then people can point fingers and scream and cry and blame their favorite scapegoat safe in the knowledge that at least there isn't more oil gushing out of the ground and ruining the gulf for generations.
| 699 |
ryannon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:17:26am |
re: #330 _remembertonyc
i was called an asshole yesterday too ... it really hurt my feelings
The real assholes are generally those who use that insult at a drop of a differing opinion.
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Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 10:17:38am |
re: #697 Fozzie Bear
Lets just hope the top kill worked, it sticks, they get a cement cap in place, and it's over. Then people can point fingers and scream and cry and blame their favorite scapegoat safe in the knowledge that at least there isn't more oil gushing out of the ground and ruining the gulf for generations.
i can rally around that sentiment...
| 701 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 27, 2010 10:17:42am |
re: #675 sattv4u2
Yeah right. You really think Charles is going to say he doesn't like that term and doesn't want to see it---if he didn't mean exactly that?
She had both the avatar and the initials for a long time. I'm sure Charles may have not been thrilled, but it didn't become an issue until a group, including you, made an issue of it day after day
No one was making an issue of it... Mandy was baiting everyone with it by having that avatar and initials... it couldn't be helped... what else can you do when someone is trolling and trying to cause trouble. It couldn't be helped... people were forced to take a stand.
| 702 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:18:11am |
re: #672 albusteve
scorching op ed about the teachers in NJ...so true, imo
In an astonishing fall from grace that has taken only months, teachers have gone from respected and beloved members of the community to some of the most reviled. In a blink, they have trashed years of good will.
Once the patient darlings who nurtured our kids, teachers now look like insensitive, out-of-touch, can’t-think-for-themselves union robots who, when forced to face economic realities, clung to an insulting sense of entitlement, heartlessly sacrificed the jobs of colleagues, called the governor naughty names and used students as political pawns.[Link: blog.nj.com...]
That article is very right about goodwill. I can't count the number of times at Sprint and Cingular i had to deal with customers who had become hostile to the company because a customer service rep screwed up and offended them. I've spent a not-insignificant part of my life cleaning up messes like that.
I've also got no sympathy for the teachers. They decided that they could still play business as usual and push governor Christie around. Instead, they've come in for some Reagan-Thatcher style union-breaking. I'm not hostile to unions as a concept, but sometimes they get out of hand and it is necessary to hammer them.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:18:36am |
re: #689 iceweasel
That's factually incorrect. Charles got pissed off about that lovely nickname. I believe there had been only some mild criticism of it at the time.
As for the Great Avatar Scandal, what a shame Mandy couldn't take the hint and change it herself, eh? That's what he said he was hoping she'd do.
You are, of course, wrong to claim *I* made an issue of her avatar every day, but you clearly aren't interested in accuracy.
I clearly stated hat there was a GROUP that included you that di. I did not say each individual member OF the group made it an issue every day
There is a group of us that work where I work. Not every one of us IN that group is at work everyday
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:18:57am |
re: #686 _remembertonyc
i rarely downding anyone ... and I think I have never downdinged you. sorry if my sense of humor offended you ... I've had much worse things said to me ...
As have I, and if that was simply meant humorously, I am happy to take it as such.
| 705 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:19:30am |
re: #678 albusteve
Caraville torched him severely yesterday
Carville, being a native of Louisiana (or is it Mississippi?) would be particularly concerned about the damage in the area. Who can blame him?
| 706 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:20:03am |
re: #693 Charles
No group of anybody will ever convince me to do anything I don't want to do. It's pretty foolish to blame someone else for actions I take.
For the record, I wasn't aware of the meaning of that little acronym until someone pointed it out. I expressed disapproval of it not because someone pointed it out, but because it's a disrespectful way to refer to the President of the US. That's the issue. Not who told me about it.
That answers that.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:20:08am |
re: #693 Charles
No group of anybody will ever convince me to do anything I don't want to do. It's pretty foolish to blame someone else for actions I take.
For the record, I wasn't aware of the meaning of that little acronym until someone pointed it out. I expressed disapproval of it not because someone pointed it out, but because it's a disrespectful way to refer to the President of the US. Thats the issue. Not who told me about it.
Accepted. And the Avatar? She had that for as long as I can recall and it was clear what it meant
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tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:20:38am |
re: #705 _remembertonyc
Carville is actually a native of Carville, LA.
So definitely a homeboy.
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albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:06am |
re: #705 _remembertonyc
Carville, being a native of Louisiana (or is it Mississippi?) would be particularly concerned about the damage in the area. Who can blame him?
I think the angle was more about churning up political capital....but nevertheless he was very pissed that people died and BO has done virtually nothing....seeing Caraville that pissed was a hoot
| 710 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:06am |
re: #694 sattv4u2
Straw Man
I didn't then nor now defend the Avatar. I didn't then nor now defend the initialsNow that thats been said, what did I say in those two posts about how/ when it happened that is in error
It's not a 'straw man', it's a reason. I didn't contradict anything you said. I'm telling you why some people were upset.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:20am |
re: #705 _remembertonyc
Carville, being a native of Louisiana (or is it Mississippi?) would be particularly concerned about the damage in the area. Who can blame him?
Carville put his state ahead of politics. It was refreshing to see among all the partisan politics we see daily. I can't recall seeing Carville that angry....ever.
| 712 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:30am |
Carville is not exactly known for biting his tongue. I would be surprised if he didn't react. A month is too long to cap a gushing well, but lets not forget, it's a fucking MILE under.
| 713 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:44am |
Obama being asked about the response time.
It takes time to get that stuff in place.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:22:20am |
re: #711 NJDhockeyfan
Carville put his state ahead of politics. It was refreshing to see among all the partisan politics we see daily. I can't recall seeing Carville that angry...ever.
ROFL. You clearly haven't followed the man's career.
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Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:22:22am |
re: #713 reine.de.tout
Obama being asked about the response time.
It takes time to get that stuff in place.
Obama's superman, didn't you hear???
Sigh...
| 717 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 10:22:26am |
re: #704 SanFranciscoZionist
As have I, and if that was simply meant humorously, I am happy to take it as such.
It was partially meant as humor, but partially serious. I like Mandy a lot and while we don't agree on everything, I consider her to be a good hearted person. And her voice is one that should not be silenced or stifled (not that she would ever allow THAT).
| 718 |
lawhawk Thu, May 27, 2010 10:22:35am |
re: #672 albusteve
I had to read that piece to see if I was dreaming, because the Star Ledger ran it. It pretty much nails the issue squarely, although the true blame for the mess lies not with the union, but with taxpayers that let unions run roughshod over them year after year until it faded into the background noise.
Now, with a recession and multibillion dollar deficits and the state incapable of funding state operations with existing revenues, the unions are demanding their usual cut and increase as though the recession doesn't exist and that sacrifices are impossible.
The unions refused to make even the slightest concessions here - refusing to pick up any cost of their own health care, 1-year wage freeze, or adjustments to their pension/benefits plans. Instead, they waged war against Christie, and all it does is make them come off as being unconcerned about taxpayers (who pay teacher salaries) and being more interested in their own paychecks (which is what unions are very good at) than with providing for education (which some teachers are good at).
| 719 |
ShaunP Thu, May 27, 2010 10:22:46am |
re: #715 Fozzie Bear
ROFL. You clearly haven't followed the man's career.
I liked him in Old School...
| 720 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:23:10am |
re: #714 brennant
Obama's Katrina!
/
It's the same questions Bush got.
And it's the same very reasonable answers.
It. Takes. Time.
| 721 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:23:29am |
re: #711 NJDhockeyfan
Carville put his state ahead of politics. It was refreshing to see among all the partisan politics we see daily. I can't recall seeing Carville that angry...ever.
I take it you never saw Cross Fire!
| 722 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:23:51am |
| 724 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:24:19am |
Ruh roh. Gonna be interesting to see how POTUS explains the environmental waivers. He's already mangled a word or two, as in ' there's a thoroughgoing onvestigation '.
If Dubya had said that, it'd already be in the books........
| 725 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:11am |
re: #715 Fozzie Bear
ROFL. You clearly haven't followed the man's career.
I've seen him throw a fit but this was probably the best one I've seen.
| 726 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:12am |
re: #724 tradewind
Ruh roh. Gonna be interesting to see how POTUS explains the environmental waivers. He's already mangled a word or two, as in ' there's a thoroughgoing onvestigation '.
If Dubya had said that, it'd already be in the books...
Lol, where do you think the waivers came from???
| 727 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:12am |
re: #707 sattv4u2
Accepted. And the Avatar? She had that for as long as I can recall and it was clear what it meant
Yes it was. When I first clicked it up as a very new lizard and saw what it was, I considered leaving the site, because it made me feel a little sick. I'm not saying that now as an attack on Mandy, but because of the suggestion above that people who disliked it were only massaging their egos.
| 728 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:18am |
Obama is doing a good job, IMO, in answering these questions.
Now, is there a reason to stop all permits for 6 months?
No.
They know what happened, and people familiar with these operations know why the blowout happened, and know what to look for.
Besides - I really don't want the Roi sent to Nigeria.
ugh.
| 729 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:38am |
Are any of the MMS people in prison yet? As far as i'm concerned, that's a good place to start in terms of accountability, not that others don't share in the blame.
| 730 |
Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:47am |
WTF!?
If it was not ABC news... I'd just not believe it.
Armed Mexican Pirates Terrorize Texas Lake
| 731 |
Charles Johnson Thu, May 27, 2010 10:25:55am |
re: #707 sattv4u2
Accepted. And the Avatar? She had that for as long as I can recall and it was clear what it meant
Why would you think my answer will be any different for that?
Have I ever expressed approval of that kind of image at LGF? As a matter of fact, no, I have not. When everybody was raving about how we needed to protest against radical Islam by putting Korans in toilets, I took a stand AGAINST that.
I've been consistent about this for years -- criticize radical Islam and militant Islamists all you like. But I'm not going to co-sign when you cross the line into dumping on all Muslims.
| 732 |
Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 10:26:35am |
re: #728 reine.de.tout
Maybe he can get a gig at one of the few California rigs.
| 733 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 10:27:01am |
re: #710 SanFranciscoZionist
It's not a 'straw man', it's a reason. I didn't contradict anything you said. I'm telling you why some people were upset.
yes, and some were simply being petty, partisan and mean.
| 734 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:27:16am |
re: #726 Varek Raith
The MMS.
This administration gave BP an award for outstanding safety not long ago.
Whoops.
Okay, now POTUS is blaming Bush.
Admits that okay, some of the regs are our fault but boy, What Bush Did.
| 735 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:27:18am |
re: #727 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it was. When I first clicked it up as a very new lizard and saw what it was, I considered leaving the site, because it made me feel a little sick. I'm not saying that now as an attack on Mandy, but because of the suggestion above that people who disliked it were only massaging their egos.
I agree with you on that. People were offended. Poeple spoke out. At Charles insistance the avatar was changed. The "system" works
| 736 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:27:51am |
re: #734 tradewind
The MMS.
This administration gave BP an award for outstanding safety not long ago.
Whoops.
Okay, now POTUS is blaming Bush.
Admits that okay, some of the regs are our fault but boy, What Bush Did.
Lol, partisanship.
| 737 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:28:00am |
re: #729 Fozzie Bear
MMS chief Eliz. Birnbaum underbussed a few hours ago.
| 738 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:28:24am |
re: #730 Rightwingconspirator
WTF!?
If it was not ABC news... I'd just not believe it.
Armed Mexican Pirates Terrorize Texas Lake
Pirate students of the missing Somali terrorist?
| 739 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:28:26am |
re: #718 lawhawk
I had to read that piece to see if I was dreaming, because the Star Ledger ran it. It pretty much nails the issue squarely, although the true blame for the mess lies not with the union, but with taxpayers that let unions run roughshod over them year after year until it faded into the background noise.
Now, with a recession and multibillion dollar deficits and the state incapable of funding state operations with existing revenues, the unions are demanding their usual cut and increase as though the recession doesn't exist and that sacrifices are impossible.
The unions refused to make even the slightest concessions here - refusing to pick up any cost of their own health care, 1-year wage freeze, or adjustments to their pension/benefits plans. Instead, they waged war against Christie, and all it does is make them come off as being unconcerned about taxpayers (who pay teacher salaries) and being more interested in their own paychecks (which is what unions are very good at) than with providing for education (which some teachers are good at).
tax payer are naive...unions have always taken advantage of that, especially teachers unions....they have the children for their ace in the whole and it trumps every time
| 740 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:28:50am |
re: #703 sattv4u2
I clearly stated hat there was a GROUP that included you that di. I did not say each individual member OF the group made it an issue every day
There is a group of us that work where I work. Not every one of us IN that group is at work everyday
Nice backpedaling there. Not.
You were, and are, factually incorrect. Charles has just clarified, as if it needed clarification, that no group-- or individual-- is going to pressure him into making any decision, about anything.
So in future when people are crying over the loss of that brilliant and witty and highly respectful and accurate cognomen for Obama, or weeping and wailing over the loss of an avatar involving pissing on the name of God in arabic, I guess I'll just relink this.
| 741 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 10:28:57am |
re: #727 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it was. When I first clicked it up as a very new lizard and saw what it was, I considered leaving the site, because it made me feel a little sick. I'm not saying that now as an attack on Mandy, but because of the suggestion above that people who disliked it were only massaging their egos.
I absolutely agree. Same experience here, and I've said it before.
I can't believe we're still having to defend being against it.
| 742 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 10:29:31am |
re: #729 Fozzie Bear
Are any of the MMS people in prison yet? As far as i'm concerned, that's a good place to start in terms of accountability, not that others don't share in the blame.
The head was fired today I think. It's a start?
| 743 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 10:29:49am |
re: #707 sattv4u2
Accepted. And the Avatar? She had that for as long as I can recall and it was clear what it meant
I saw that Avatar for years and never once it even occurred to me that Calvin was peeing on the Name of God..Somebody point it out.. And I'll agree with Charles that it wasn't even thought about...It's just a dumb avatar...
But..Boy oh Boy..That could be very offensive to many people.
Now if Mandy cared about one thing I said..I'd would advise her to keep the same avatar with Calvin peeing on her observation of the day.. Like you know..The NYT's front page one day...The picture of the Times square Bomber for a week...I think she could really have fun with it and many lizards would love it... And it would be a legitimate Political statement in an avatar...
/Just as long as Calvin isn't peeing on my picture of Winton
| 744 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:30:05am |
re: #737 tradewind
She wasn't even there during the pornstorm and the kickbacks, though. She was appointed in 2009. What about the guys who were actually taking kickbacks?
They need to just completely disband the MMS, and repopulate it with all new people, imo. That level of corruption can't easily be rooted out by installing someone new at the top.
| 746 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:30:46am |
re: #731 Charles
Why would you think my answer will be any different for that?
Have I ever expressed approval of that kind of image at LGF? As a matter of fact, no, I have not. When everybody was raving about how we needed to protest against radical Islam by putting Korans in toilets, I took a stand AGAINST that.
I've been consistent about this for years -- criticize radical Islam and militant Islamists all you like. But I'm not going to co-sign when you cross the line into dumping on all Muslims.
When I 1st started posting here some of my most vicious arguments were against those that lumped all Muslims into one convenient meme. I can't remeber who the poster was right now, but after telling that person that on that particular night my (then) 12 year old son was staying at his friends house whose family are praticing Muslims and we have their child and them over often, that poster told me that "secretly, that family would want to kill mine" in a hearbeat I I was MORE pissed than I can ever recall
| 747 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:32:08am |
I LOVE Helen Thomas!!!!!!!
He knew she would ask that. she always does.....
| 748 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:32:33am |
I fucking love Helen Thomas. I wish she were my grandma.
| 749 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:32:45am |
Helen Thomas: When are we getting out of Afghanistan? Why are we still killing people there? And don't give me this bushism of 'if we don't fight there they're going to come here.'
Ha...Gotta love that woman.
| 750 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:32:47am |
lmao@ Helen Thomas.
Way to give him a break, Helen!
Afghanistan is something he's prepped for./
| 751 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:32:49am |
re: #727 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes it was. When I first clicked it up as a very new lizard and saw what it was, I considered leaving the site, because it made me feel a little sick. I'm not saying that now as an attack on Mandy, but because of the suggestion above that people who disliked it were only massaging their egos.
That was exactly the objection made to it. That it gave the wrong impression of the site to people, that it was likely to make some people highly uncomfortable, that it could affect participation, -- and it was just offensive. It just was.
And before she took it down, some hater did use it to smear LGF. As could have been-- and was-- predicted.
And what do you know, since it's been gone we even picked up at least one Muslim member.
So let's be clear about the objections to that avatar. They'd have been made regardless of who had it as an avatar.
| 752 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:33:26am |
| 753 |
brennant Thu, May 27, 2010 10:33:28am |
re: #748 Fozzie Bear
I totally stopped what I was doing and turned back to the conference... Thanks Helen!
| 754 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:33:36am |
And speking of my son,, Gotta drive him to an end of school year "Burn Party"
never heard of it till last year when he was a graduating HS Freshman. Kids get together for a pool/ BBQ party and BURN a bunch of old shoolwork
| 755 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:33:48am |
re: #750 tradewind
OBAMA CAN DO NO RIGHT.
9_9
| 757 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:33:58am |
re: #750 tradewind
lmao@ Helen Thomas.
Way to give him a break, Helen!
Afghanistan is something he's prepped for./
It's a critical question, not a softball. She even said she didn't want a "bushism of if we don't fight them there, then they're going to come here."...
| 758 |
subsailor68 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:34:07am |
re: #730 Rightwingconspirator
WTF!?
If it was not ABC news... I'd just not believe it.
Armed Mexican Pirates Terrorize Texas Lake
Hi Rightwingconspirator! Yep, that's been going on for awhile now. There's another border lake - Lake Amistad - near Del Rio. A couple of friends told me that there's some of that going on there as well, but I haven't found any articles on that. (But, it wouldn't surprise me.)
On the other hand, this is Texas, and one of these days the pirates are going to try this and end up running into a boat full of guys with concealed carry - and a few weapons of their own.
Nasty situation.
| 759 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:34:23am |
re: #734 tradewind
The MMS.
This administration gave BP an award for outstanding safety not long ago.
Whoops.
Okay, now POTUS is blaming Bush.
Admits that okay, some of the regs are our fault but boy, What Bush Did.
Ummm a lot of what created this disaster is a left over from the Bush admin.
BUT then he said "I am RESPONSIBLE".
He is more then willing to say he made a mistake if he does and he is willing to admit when he is the responsible party.
the buck stops here and all that....
| 760 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:34:43am |
re: #755 Varek Raith
Oh, I think he's done okay in some areas. You don't like anything??
| 761 |
Digital Display Thu, May 27, 2010 10:34:47am |
re: #728 reine.de.tout
Obama is doing a good job, IMO, in answering these questions.
Now, is there a reason to stop all permits for 6 months?
No.
They know what happened, and people familiar with these operations know why the blowout happened, and know what to look for.Besides - I really don't want the Roi sent to Nigeria.
ugh.
I'm going to warn you right now.. Just so you are aware..A few years ago my Company signed a Contract with Shell Oil in Nigeria.. When we sent people there we had to hire a professional bodyguard company to protect them.. Roi is not going there! I'm putting him at the top of the Prayer list this Sunday...Let's send his Butt to Houston or something...
Kind Regards
| 762 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:35:08am |
| 763 |
Daniel Ballard Thu, May 27, 2010 10:35:09am |
re: #758 subsailor68
Hah! Send the Navy! :)
| 764 |
Charles Johnson Thu, May 27, 2010 10:35:19am |
re: #746 sattv4u2
When I 1st started posting here some of my most vicious arguments were against those that lumped all Muslims into one convenient meme. I can't remeber who the poster was right now, but after telling that person that on that particular night my (then) 12 year old son was staying at his friends house whose family are praticing Muslims and we have their child and them over often, that poster told me that "secretly, that family would want to kill mine" in a hearbeat I I was MORE pissed than I can ever recall
OK, then you do understand my objection to the avatar in question.
| 765 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 10:35:43am |
re: #730 Rightwingconspirator
WTF!?
If it was not ABC news... I'd just not believe it.
Armed Mexican Pirates Terrorize Texas Lake
You'd only believe it if the news came from a source in the MFM?
| 766 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:36:02am |
re: #757 darthstar
You can take it to the bank that everyone in the WH knew that something just like that was coming from Helen Thomas, and they were ready for her.
She's nothing if not predictable.
| 767 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:36:09am |
re: #744 Fozzie Bear
She wasn't even there during the pornstorm and the kickbacks, though. She was appointed in 2009. What about the guys who were actually taking kickbacks?
They need to just completely disband the MMS, and repopulate it with all new people, imo. That level of corruption can't easily be rooted out by installing someone new at the top.
Agreed. Sadly, that never happens with government agencies.
| 768 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 10:36:12am |
re: #731 Charles
Why would you think my answer will be any different for that?
Have I ever expressed approval of that kind of image at LGF? As a matter of fact, no, I have not. When everybody was raving about how we needed to protest against radical Islam by putting Korans in toilets, I took a stand AGAINST that.
I've been consistent about this for years -- criticize radical Islam and militant Islamists all you like. But I'm not going to co-sign when you cross the line into dumping on all Muslims.
I respect and agree with you. Yet may I assume it is in order here to continue to criticize some of the tenets of the religion of Islam just as it is in order to criticize some of the tenets of any other religion?
| 769 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:36:14am |
Moonbats on boats converge on Israeli blockade...
Boats Head to Gaza, in Defiance of Israeli Blockade
JERUSALEM — Israel was preparing for a showdown on Thursday as a flotilla of up to nine vessels carrying hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists and thousands of tons of supplies headed for Gaza, in the most ambitious attempt so far to break Israel’s maritime blockade of the Hamas-run coastal enclave.
The flotilla of cargo ships and passenger boats, led by the Free Gaza Movement and a Turkish organization, Insani Yardim Vakfi, set sail from various countries over the last 10 days.
Israel, which allows basic supplies into Gaza through crossing points along the land border, denounced the flotilla as a political provocation and has vowed not to let the boats reach Gaza’s shores. It has invited the flotilla to land at an Israeli port, Ashdod, instead.
| 770 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:36:26am |
re: #761 HoosierHoops
I'm going to warn you right now.. Just so you are aware..A few years ago my Company signed a Contract with Shell Oil in Nigeria.. When we sent people there we had to hire a professional bodyguard company to protect them.. Roi is not going there! I'm putting him at the top of the Prayer list this Sunday...Let's send his Butt to Houston or something...
Kind Regards
Really, I've got no clue what's going to happen.
He works deep water wells.
And there's a six-month moratorium.
Maybe he'll go to Brazil. Maybe just be out of work. We'll see.
| 771 |
Gus Thu, May 27, 2010 10:37:16am |
re: #755 Varek Raith
OBAMA CAN DO NO RIGHT.
9_9
The tumor that is Obama derangement has metastasized.
| 772 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:37:27am |
re: #765 MandyManners
Maybe if it was vibrating, and originated at CBS..../
| 773 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:37:34am |
re: #749 darthstar
Helen Thomas: When are we getting out of Afghanistan? Why are we still killing people there? And don't give me this bushism of 'if we don't fight there they're going to come here.'
Ha...Gotta love that woman.
Foolish of her. We're killing people there so they don't turn the country into a terrorist safe-zone. Does that woman want retreat and humiliation?
| 774 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:37:59am |
re: #765 MandyManners
You'd only believe it if the news came from a source in the MFM?
What, exactly, does MFM stand for?
I searched for the acronym, and this is what I found. None of these seem to make sense in context.
MFM Magnetic Force Microscopy
MFM Maternal-Fetal Medicine
MFM Modified Frequency Modulation
MFM Mass Flow Meter
MFM Macau International Airport
MFM Male Female Male
MFM Myofibrillar Myopathy
MFM Master Financial Manager
MFM Mephit Fur Meet
MFM My Favorite Martian
MFM Men from Mars
MFM Multifunction Module
MFM Multilevel Flow Models
MFM Matie FM
MFM Metropolitan Financial Management
MFM Multifunction Monitor
MFM Myopathy, Myofibrillar
MFM Metropolitan Filipino Ministry
MFM MAJCOM Functional Manager
MFM Movable Fine Mesh Model
MFM Mouvement Fédéraliste Mondial
MFM Missile Farm Monitor
MFM Master File Maintenance
MFM Multifunction Mast
MFM Marcher FM
MFM Microfilm Module
MFM Mid Frequency Module
MFM Maryland Friends of Midwives
MFM Morrissey, Fernie, and Michel Railway
MFM Music Fans Mic
MFM Moskitt Feature Modeler
| 775 |
Kragar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:38:24am |
re: #773 Dark_Falcon
Foolish of her. We're killing people there so they don't turn the country into a terrorist safe-zone. Does that woman want retreat and humiliation?
Probably
| 776 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:39:04am |
re: #774 Fozzie Bear
I think it means My Favorite Martian.
| 777 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:39:13am |
They're giving Obama a hard time.
He's doing OK with it.
| 778 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:39:19am |
re: #765 MandyManners
You'd only believe it if the news came from a source in the MFM?
If it came from Fox News, at this point I'd have to dismiss it. They've lost much of their credibility by crying "Wolf!!1".
| 780 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:39:35am |
re: #773 Dark_Falcon
Foolish of her. We're killing people there so they don't turn the country into a terrorist safe-zone. Does that woman want retreat and humiliation?
we are supposed to withdraw next year...what's the point then?....I have deep reservations about Afghanistan
| 781 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:39:36am |
re: #768 Spare O'Lake
/It'd be hard to argue that criticizing religion was a problem./
| 782 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 10:40:15am |
re: #774 Fozzie Bear
What, exactly, does MFM stand for?
I searched for the acronym, and this is what I found. None of these seem to make sense in context.
MFM Magnetic Force Microscopy
MFM Maternal-Fetal Medicine
MFM Modified Frequency Modulation
MFM Mass Flow Meter
MFM Macau International Airport
MFM Male Female Male
MFM Myofibrillar Myopathy
MFM Master Financial Manager
MFM Mephit Fur Meet
MFM My Favorite Martian
MFM Men from Mars
MFM Multifunction Module
MFM Multilevel Flow Models
MFM Matie FM
MFM Metropolitan Financial Management
MFM Multifunction Monitor
MFM Myopathy, Myofibrillar
MFM Metropolitan Filipino Ministry
MFM MAJCOM Functional Manager
MFM Movable Fine Mesh Model
MFM Mouvement Fédéraliste Mondial
MFM Missile Farm Monitor
MFM Master File Maintenance
MFM Multifunction Mast
MFM Marcher FM
MFM Microfilm Module
MFM Mid Frequency Module
MFM Maryland Friends of Midwives
MFM Morrissey, Fernie, and Michel Railway
MFM Music Fans Mic
MFM Moskitt Feature Modeler
MFM = Mother Fucking Media
| 783 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 10:40:22am |
Gates said the White House-supported compromise was not ideal, but was acceptable to him, according to his spokesman Geoff Morrell.
But in separate letters to Congress, the service chiefs said they don’t like this idea at all.
The letters come on the eve of historic votes on the House floor and in the Senate Armed Services Committee to reverse a 1993 law that bars openly gay people from serving in the military. While the outcome is unclear, supporters of repeal announced Wednesday that they had the 15 votes needed in the Senate Armed Services Committee to get a repeal amendment attached to the 2011 defense authorization bill.
One of service chiefs’ biggest concerns is what troops and their families might think about Congress voting to change the law before the Pentagon finishes an ongoing, comprehensive review of the potential effects of repeal, to include asking troops and their families what they think, according to the letters.
SNIP
| 785 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:41:15am |
re: #777 reine.de.tout
They're giving Obama a hard time.
He's doing OK with it.
But, but I thought he could not talk without a teleprompter?
/
and yeah, this is a good presser....
| 786 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 10:41:57am |
re: #768 Spare O'Lake
I respect and agree with you. Yet may I assume it is in order here to continue to criticize some of the tenets of the religion of Islam just as it is in order to criticize some of the tenets of any other religion?
i don't think that's ever been in question, has it??
| 787 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 10:42:29am |
re: #769 NJDhockeyfan
Moonbats on boats converge on Israeli blockade...
Why isn't Galloway going? He has plenty of free time now.
| 788 |
darthstar Thu, May 27, 2010 10:43:05am |
re: #777 reine.de.tout
They're giving Obama a hard time.
He's doing OK with it.
He's also staying up there a long time...I like a president who isn't afraid to answer questions.
| 789 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:43:08am |
re: #786 Aceofwhat?
i don't think that's ever been in question, has it??
Religion sucks.
*Looks out for Stinky*
.
.
.
.
.
.
Clear!
| 790 |
b_sharp Thu, May 27, 2010 10:43:41am |
re: #773 Dark_Falcon
Foolish of her. We're killing people there so they don't turn the country into a terrorist safe-zone. Does that woman want retreat and humiliation?
Humiliation isn't a justification for killing people.
Surely there are other steps that can be taken to ensure Iraq doesn't become a terrorist safe haven.
| 791 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 10:44:15am |
re: #768 Spare O'Lake
I respect and agree with you. Yet may I assume it is in order here to continue to criticize some of the tenets of the religion of Islam just as it is in order to criticize some of the tenets of any other religion?
Just don't mention the bit about the command to kill Jews and infidels.
| 794 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:45:30am |
Good grief. Do we really want to discuss all the bad stuff in each religion's holy books? Really?
| 795 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:45:41am |
re: #788 darthstar
He's had a long time to think about it in between organized question and answer pressers.
| 796 |
Aceofwhat? Thu, May 27, 2010 10:46:18am |
re: #794 Varek Raith
Good grief. Do we really want to discuss all the bad stuff in each religion's holy books? Really?
well...we can just keep it in our back pocket for a slow night;)
| 797 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:46:22am |
re: #794 Varek Raith
Good grief. Do we really want to discuss all the bad stuff in each religion's holy books? Really?
already have....many times, and good debates they were
| 798 |
Gus Thu, May 27, 2010 10:46:26am |
re: #794 Varek Raith
Good grief. Do we really want to discuss all the bad stuff in each religion's holy books? Really?
That would take all day, month, year, a whole decade.
| 799 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:46:31am |
re: #785 webevintage
But, but I thought he could not talk without a teleprompter?
/and yeah, this is a good presser...
geez.
I think I'm liking his immigration response.
I'll have to find the transcript and check it to be sure.
| 800 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:46:46am |
re: #787 MandyManners
He's afraid they may ask him to stand in for a few human shields.
| 801 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:47:26am |
reine, do you know why (has then been any news) Jindal has not asked for a disaster area proclamation yet?
| 802 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:47:30am |
Let's just give everyone the same treatment as your Aunt.
| 803 |
b_sharp Thu, May 27, 2010 10:47:37am |
re: #790 b_sharp
Humiliation isn't a justification for killing people.
Surely there are other steps that can be taken to ensure Iraq doesn't become a terrorist safe haven.
My error, Afghanistan, not Iraq.
| 804 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:47:41am |
| 805 |
sattv4u2 Thu, May 27, 2010 10:47:57am |
re: #764 Charles
OK, then you do understand my objection to the avatar in question.
I do. And I never defended it OTHER than to say it was your call whether to tell her to get rid of it
My words were at the time something in the order of
"If Charles wants it gone, it will be gone and if she refuses I'm sure Mandy will be gone"
| 807 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:49:08am |
| 809 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:49:40am |
re: #801 webevintage
reine, do you know why (has then been any news) Jindal has not asked for a disaster area proclamation yet?
He's asked for and received a Commercial Fisheries Failure which starts a process of assistance for those folks.
| 810 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:49:55am |
re: #806 tradewind
Uh oh, Major said Sestak.
well of course he did.
He always will make sure a good wingnut question gets in there and Obama still calls on him.
| 811 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:50:27am |
re: #808 tradewind
...and POTUS said ' nevermind'/
He will have a response 'shortly'. How long is shortly?
| 812 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:50:29am |
re: #805 sattv4u2
I do. And I never defended it OTHER than to say it was your call whether to tell her to get rid of it
My words were at the time something in the order of
"If Charles wants it gone, it will be gone and if she refuses I'm sure Mandy will be gone"
from my own personal experiences, this is true without a doubt
| 813 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:50:56am |
re: #810 webevintage
well of course he did.
He always will make sure a good wingnut question gets in there and Obama still calls on him.
what was the question?
| 814 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:50:57am |
re: #809 reine.de.tout
Has anyone explained why the toxic crap was allowed to be dumped despite the LA environmentalist experts pleading for it to not be?
| 815 |
Gus Thu, May 27, 2010 10:51:03am |
11:50 AM and the ODS is still going strong.
Yawn.
| 817 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:51:21am |
re: #805 sattv4u2
I do. And I never defended it OTHER than to say it was your call whether to tell her to get rid of it
My words were at the time something in the order of
"If Charles wants it gone, it will be gone and if she refuses I'm sure Mandy will be gone"
And Charles did say he wanted it gone. And it is.
Yet here you are, still bitching about it.
Can we consider the subject closed now?
| 818 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:51:45am |
re: #811 NJDhockeyfan
When the parsing is thoroughly vetted and approved.
| 819 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, May 27, 2010 10:51:54am |
re: #810 webevintage
well of course he did.
He always will make sure a good wingnut question gets in there and Obama still calls on him.
Wingnut question? The Democrats have made as much noise as the GOP on the subject. The entire MSM has been asking questions. What wingnut is leading the charge?
| 820 |
Racer X Thu, May 27, 2010 10:51:56am |
Dude is holding a press conference!
Answering questions and everything!
| 821 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 10:52:10am |
re: #791 MandyManners
Just don't mention the bit about the command to kill Jews and infidels.
Oh please. EVERY religion has it's absurdities, hatred, and xenophobia. That really isn't a valid criticism of Islam as a whole, unless you are willing to level similar charges against Judaism and Christianity. Have you ever read Leviticus? Do you think all christians should be saddled with the practices codified there?
| 822 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:52:42am |
re: #814 tradewind
Has anyone explained why the toxic crap was allowed to be dumped despite the LA environmentalist experts pleading for it to not be?
Not that I've seen.
You're talking about the dispersant, correct?
I know they reduced the amount they were using.
| 823 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:52:44am |
re: #819 NJDhockeyfan
Wingnut question? The Democrats have made as much noise as the GOP on the subject. The entire MSM has been asking questions. What wingnut is leading the charge?
more partisan bullshit...as if there is no question about the issue
| 824 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:52:45am |
re: #810 webevintage
Yeah, because nothing says Wingnut Question like a democrat alleging that federal code was violated by the WH./
| 825 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:53:15am |
re: #822 reine.de.tout
Yes. I read reports that it will be worse for the wetlands in the long run than the oil.
| 826 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:53:41am |
re: #825 tradewind
Yes. I read reports that it will be worse for the wetlands in the long run than the oil.
Blame BP.
| 827 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:54:16am |
re: #825 tradewind
Yes. I read reports that it will be worse for the wetlands in the long run than the oil.
I think they don't really know.
That particular dispersant, corexit, had not been tested to the degree it needed to be tested to fully understand its effects, is the impression I have.
| 829 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:54:54am |
re: #826 Varek Raith
I thought the WH just said that it had the final say in every action.
| 830 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 10:55:50am |
| 831 |
webevintage Thu, May 27, 2010 10:56:24am |
re: #809 reine.de.tout
He's asked for and received a Commercial Fisheries Failure which starts a process of assistance for those folks.
thanks...
But don't they have to ask for a specific declaration for it to be a disaster area so other small businesses and the state itself to get fed help?
| 832 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 10:57:01am |
re: #829 tradewind
I thought the WH just said that it had the final say in every action.
Ok, Obama should nationalize a foreign corp, then tell them to use the eco friendly stuff.
:)
| 833 |
MandyManners Thu, May 27, 2010 10:57:17am |
re: #794 Varek Raith
Good grief. Do we really want to discuss all the bad stuff in each religion's holy books? Really?
Gee. Like the bit about loving your neighbor as you love yourself? The bit about turning the other cheek?
| 834 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:58:33am |
re: #832 Varek Raith
I'm not saying that. He said he's in charge of every action. The Buck Stops There.
Except that he didn't appear to know that his MMS head had resigned... what's up with that?
| 835 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 10:59:26am |
re: #833 MandyManners
Gee. Like the bit about loving your neighbor as you love yourself? The bit about turning the other cheek?
No, but probably the bits about homosexuals will come up. :)
| 836 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 10:59:42am |
re: #833 MandyManners
Someone wants to go to the wayback machine, as opposed to contrasting the practices of the religions in today's world, which would be actually relevant./
| 837 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 10:59:45am |
re: #834 tradewind
I'm not saying that. He said he's in charge of every action. The Buck Stops There.
Except that he didn't appear to know that his MMS head had resigned... what's up with that?
he's been submerged in the NBA playoffs....bet me
| 838 |
reine.de.tout Thu, May 27, 2010 11:02:29am |
re: #831 webevintage
thanks...
But don't they have to ask for a specific declaration for it to be a disaster area so other small businesses and the state itself to get fed help?
I'm guessing here that there needs to be specific and a specific amount of harm shown to exist, and I'm not certain that they can show that - yet.
| 839 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 11:02:48am |
re: #836 tradewind
Someone wants to go to the wayback machine, as opposed to contrasting the practices of the religions in today's world, which would be actually relevant./
Sadly, the next thread makes clear that the homosexual issue is still relevant as far as biblical admonitions against it go. There are still many Americans who give such words heed.
| 840 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 27, 2010 11:02:51am |
re: #837 albusteve
Steve! I spotted this and thought of you for some reason...
| 841 |
Macha Thu, May 27, 2010 11:03:35am |
re: #230 Jadespring
Thanks for the suggestion. Putting some feed out hasn't stopped them from going inside anyways. They don't actually get at the actual feeder because it hangs from the ceiling but scavenge the bits that the chickens drop onto the floor so I'm not sure if taking the feeder away would do much good.
Oh boy, there is never an easy solution is there? I can see the problem you describe. Little rascals, once they discover a food source they will go back to it forever. Probably letting them scavenge for the droppings is the best way to handle it. I don't know where you live. In California we have to be careful about field mice and squirrels because of Hanta virus. That is the primary reason I keep them out of my coop and aviaries. There is something else you might try. I don't know if it will work for chipmunks. But it does work for mice and rats. Get some liquid catnip (it comes in a spray at PetSmart) and some oil of peppermint. You soak some cotton balls in it and place it around the edges of the coop inside where the feed is. You can wrap it in something like plastic window screen so the chickens won't try to eat it(chickens will try to eat anything!). Rodents are very repelled by the smell and won't come in. I learned this from my vet who raises finches commercially.
| 842 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 11:04:07am |
re: #836 tradewind
Someone wants to go to the wayback machine, as opposed to contrasting the practices of the religions in today's world, which would be actually relevant./
Will you ever forget 9/11?
Should we forget about 9/11 a thousand years from now?
Why should I ignore the shit that happened a thousand years in the past?
| 843 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:04:48am |
re: #833 MandyManners
Gee. Like the bit about loving your neighbor as you love yourself? The bit about turning the other cheek?
How about these parts?
Leviticus
20:9 If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
25:44-45 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
Deuteronomy
7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
Exodus
35:2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
Ezekiel
20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
Ephesians
5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
1 Peter
2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
| 844 |
gamark Thu, May 27, 2010 11:08:42am |
re: #826 Varek Raith
Blame BP.
Sure enough. But IIUC, the EPA or some such agency told BP to stop using it. If that is the case and BP continued with it, doesn't that shift some of the blame to those charged with regulating the operation?
| 845 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 11:09:14am |
re: #794 Varek Raith
Good grief. Do we really want to discuss all the bad stuff in each religion's holy books? Really?
Only the bad stuff that a signigicant number of present adherents are actively promoting and seeking to impose on others.
| 846 |
albusteve Thu, May 27, 2010 11:11:01am |
re: #840 Slumbering Behemoth
Steve! I spotted this and thought of you for some reason...
"atheists have rock and roll"
| 847 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:11:56am |
re: #845 Spare O'Lake
Perhaps you should look at the next thread up.
There isn't a religion on the planet that doesn't have a significant number of batshit insane, violent, and hateful adherents.
Blame the adherents, not the religious text, because there simply isn't a major religious text that doesn't say some absolutely reprehensible shit.
| 849 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:12:49am |
re: #843 Fozzie Bear
Right- and how many examples of that way of thinking and orthodoxy can you point to today? How exactly does the Judeo-Christian ethic of our times reflect that?
Compare and contrast that with state sponsored bigotry, hate and racism of some others.
| 850 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 11:13:19am |
I apologize for my being a jerk today.
I'm in a foul mood.
| 851 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 27, 2010 11:15:05am |
| 852 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:16:05am |
re: #849 researchok
There isn't *A* singular atomic Judeo-Christian ethic anymore than there is a singular atomic Islamic ethic. The whole concept is a farce. It's broad-brush stupidity to insinuate otherwise.
Look at the next thread up. FRC is undoubtedly a Judeo-Christian aligned group. Therefore, do they represent Christianity?
| 853 |
b_sharp Thu, May 27, 2010 11:16:33am |
re: #842 Varek Raith
Will you ever forget 9/11?
Should we forget about 9/11 a thousand years from now?
Why should I ignore the shit that happened a thousand years in the past?
The reason we study the past, especially human actions, is because it gives us clues to what can happen now. The ability of religious belief to guide people's actions, in some cases control their actions, is as strong today as it was however long in the past you want to go.
| 855 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 11:17:30am |
re: #853 b_sharp
The reason we study the past, especially human actions, is because it gives us clues to what can happen now. The ability of religious belief to guide people's actions, in some cases control their actions, is as strong today as it was however long in the past you want to go.
Nicely said.
I can't explain things worth shit.
:)
| 856 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 27, 2010 11:18:34am |
| 857 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 11:18:45am |
| 858 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:19:22am |
re: #852 Fozzie Bear
There isn't *A* singular atomic Judeo-Christian ethic anymore than there is a singular atomic Islamic ethic. The whole concept is a farce. It's broad-brush stupidity to insinuate otherwise.
Look at the next thread up. FRC is undoubtedly a Judeo-Christian aligned group. Therefore, do they represent Christianity?
Right. So in your world we we need to obsess over violent Jewish and Christian organizations because they pose a huge threat.
And radical Islamism is the same problem as Judaism and Christianity.
Right.
| 859 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 11:19:41am |
| 860 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:22:11am |
re: #852 Fozzie Bear
There isn't *A* singular atomic Judeo-Christian ethic anymore than there is a singular atomic Islamic ethic. The whole concept is a farce. It's broad-brush stupidity to insinuate otherwise.
Look at the next thread up. FRC is undoubtedly a Judeo-Christian aligned group. Therefore, do they represent Christianity?
While the FRC might not be your cup of tea- or mine, fort that matter, I would hardly lump them in with radical Islamists.
It must outrage you that Obama is a devout Christian.
| 861 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 11:22:59am |
re: #852 Fozzie Bear
There isn't *A* singular atomic Judeo-Christian ethic anymore than there is a singular atomic Islamic ethic. The whole concept is a farce. It's broad-brush stupidity to insinuate otherwise.
Look at the next thread up. FRC is undoubtedly a Judeo-Christian aligned group. Therefore, do they represent Christianity?
Unfortunately, Islam has this special problem of being stuck in the Dark Ages when it comes to its relationship with other religions and its internal code of human rights.
I didn't make this stuff up. Read "The Trouble With Islam" (Irshad Manji) and/or "Chasing A Mirage" (Tarek Fatah).
| 862 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:24:41am |
re: #858 researchok
Right. So in your world we we need to obsess over violent Jewish and Christian organizations because they pose a huge threat.
And radical Islamism is the same problem as Judaism and Christianity.
Right.
No. In my world we need to make sure we don't act like idiots when, say, somebody wants to build a mosque in Manhattan, because when we become truly anti-Islamic rather than anti-extremist, we become the monsters we started out intending to fight.
You can't oppose a Jihad by declaring a Jihad on it. It won't work.
| 863 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:25:27am |
re: #860 researchok
It must outrage you that Obama is a devout Christian.
Why the hell would I care? I'm not the guy saying people of X religion are bad.
| 864 |
_remembertonyc Thu, May 27, 2010 11:25:47am |
| 865 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 27, 2010 11:26:44am |
| 866 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 11:27:27am |
| 867 |
CuriousLurker Thu, May 27, 2010 11:29:22am |
re: #858 researchok
Right. So in your world we we need to obsess over violent Jewish and Christian organizations because they pose a huge threat.
And radical Islamism is the same problem as Judaism and Christianity.
Right.
Judging by the news reports I hear almost every day regarding body counts due to suicide bombings & such, I would venture to say that radical Islamists are a far greater threat to Muslims living in the Middle East than they are to anyone living in the West.
| 869 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:30:08am |
re: #863 Fozzie Bear
Why the hell would I care? I'm not the guy saying people of X religion are bad.
Your antithesis to religion is noted.
The president subscribes to a faith in which yo have little esteem.
| 870 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:30:32am |
re: #861 Spare O'Lake
Unfortunately, Islam has this special problem of being stuck in the Dark Ages when it comes to its relationship with other religions and its internal code of human rights.
I didn't make this stuff up. Read "The Trouble With Islam" (Irshad Manji) and/or "Chasing A Mirage" (Tarek Fatah).
That problem isn't special. It is the oldest problem in the world.
Aspects of Islam need to find moderation as most of Christianity and Judaism have. That has everything to do with the people, and little to do with the religion itself, unless you want to claim that the reprehensible passages in the Koran are somehow worse than the reprehensible passages in the Bible, because, you know, they are foreign and stuff. Most modern christians just ignore those passages, as they should. So do many modern Muslims.
| 871 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:32:16am |
re: #867 CuriousLurker
Judging by the news reports I hear almost every day regarding body counts due to suicide bombings & such, I would venture to say that radical Islamists are a far greater threat to Muslims living in the Middle East than they are to anyone living in the West.
I take no issue with that.
Having said that, the issues of state sponsored hate, racism and bigotry are legion. Just because people aren't being killed doesn't mitigate the racism. If it did, the KKK would be just another service organization.
| 872 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:32:48am |
re: #869 researchok
Your antithesis to religion is noted.
The president subscribes to a faith in which yo have little esteem.
I have little esteem for faith itself. I have great esteem for some people, regardless of faith. The two aren't connected. My antipathy is to religion, not the people who ascribe to it, insofar as those who ascribe don't behave irrationally as a result.
Some very religious people can behave rationally. Some can't.
| 873 |
tradewind Thu, May 27, 2010 11:33:43am |
re: #860 researchok
It would surprise and delight me.
Where'd you come up with the devout tag?
Evidently, he had the ability to attend a church for years and years without once absorbing the message of its pastor.
/Not that in the case of Rev Wright, that was wrong./
| 874 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:34:13am |
re: #871 researchok
I take no issue with that.
Having said that, the issues of state sponsored hate, racism and bigotry are legion. Just because people aren't being killed doesn't mitigate the racism. If it did, the KKK would be just another service organization.
And there is the real issue. It's not the religion itself.
| 875 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:36:11am |
re: #862 Fozzie Bear
No. In my world we need to make sure we don't act like idiots when, say, somebody wants to build a mosque in Manhattan, because when we become truly anti-Islamic rather than anti-extremist, we become the monsters we started out intending to fight.
You can't oppose a Jihad by declaring a Jihad on it. It won't work.
In that you are absolutely right- we can't eliminate a jihad by declaring a religious jihad.
That said, we can castigate and refute tyrants, dictators and so on. The best way to eliminate radical anything is by encouraging freedom and democracy. No matter how distasteful. we must marginalize and repudiate these bigots and racists- especially when they use religion as a hammer.
| 876 |
Varek Raith Thu, May 27, 2010 11:39:05am |
re: #868 tradewind
Textbook circular reasoning.
Uh, yeah, we're humans. It's what we do best, past, present and future!
| 877 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:39:40am |
re: #874 Fozzie Bear
And there is the real issue. It's not the religion itself.
In many cases, the state cannot be distinguished from the religion- certainly not in the Middle East.
That is another reality we have to deal with. Just because the state uses religion does not mean we have to back off.
Life saving drugs can be misused too. If they are, we are obligated to try and stop that, even if they say they are practicing 'medicine'. FGM is not medicine either.
| 878 |
The Left Thu, May 27, 2010 11:40:54am |
re: #836 tradewind
Someone wants to go to the wayback machine, as opposed to contrasting the practices of the religions in today's world, which would be actually relevant./
Why? We can just go to the thread upstairs. Oops!
| 879 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, May 27, 2010 11:43:56am |
re: #877 researchok
In many cases, the state cannot be distinguished from the religion- certainly not in the Middle East.
That is another reality we have to deal with. Just because the state uses religion does not mean we have to back off.
Yes, but it is incredibly important that we stand in opposition to the state, not the shield of religion it hides behind. If we start acting like a bunch of assholes bashing a given religion, then we will be essentially Jihadists. Then we lose no matter what we do, because we were dragged down to a lower level of discourse.
All human problems are caused by humans, not books, or mosques, or symbols. Just humans.
| 880 |
researchok Thu, May 27, 2010 11:48:37am |
re: #879 Fozzie Bear
Yes, but it is incredibly important that we stand in opposition to the state, not the shield of religion it hides behind. If we start acting like a bunch of assholes bashing a given religion, then we will be essentially Jihadists. Then we lose no matter what we do, because we were dragged down to a lower level of discourse.
All human problems are caused by humans, not books, or mosques, or symbols. Just humans.
I do not disagree- but in fact, the state uses religion and has used religion for decades as a way to propagate their own existence. We are certainly within our rights to fight that kind of phony religious expression.
That is after all what moderate and reformist Muslims do all the time.
| 881 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 27, 2010 11:50:49am |
re: #870 Fozzie Bear
That problem isn't special. It is the oldest problem in the world.
Aspects of Islam need to find moderation as most of Christianity and Judaism have. That has everything to do with the people, and little to do with the religion itself, unless you want to claim that the reprehensible passages in the Koran are somehow worse than the reprehensible passages in the Bible, because, you know, they are foreign and stuff. Most modern christians just ignore those passages, as they should. So do many modern Muslims.
Islam has not yet undergone a reformation in the way that most other mainstream religions have managed to do. One of the reasons for that is that Islam has an unusually strong literalist and dogmatic tradition which is amply supported by an intolerant, antidemocratic and misogynistic text. This has for the most part allowed the radical elements to manage much more easily to hold back what we in the West like to think of as the rational tide of history.
Of course we have radical elements of other religions as well, who are currently busy trying to turn back the clock as well.
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simoom Thu, May 27, 2010 11:54:00am |
re: #575 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the press are a bunch of assholes. They should just ask a bunch of softball questions and consider themselves lucky Obama didn't wait another year for a press conference.
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You mean "wait another three-and-a-half months", right?
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b_sharp Thu, May 27, 2010 12:06:57pm |
re: #860 researchok
While the FRC might not be your cup of tea- or mine, fort that matter, I would hardly lump them in with radical Islamists.
It must outrage you that Obama is a devout Christian.
I think you missed Fozzie's point that Christianity, like Islam, contains under its umbrella, a wide range of attitudes and beliefs including the radical like the Dominionists (buds of FRC no doubt) and the far less radical like Obama.
Simply put, those that want a theocracy and likely would be militant if the opportunity was there, are unacceptable.
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