A Gorgeous Piece for 13-String Harp Guitar: Antoine Dufour, “Star Trails Pt. I (Polaris) & Pt. II (Sigma Octantis)”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 22, 2017 • 9:55:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:03:07pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Third time today…

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:08:22pm

Scottsbluff and Alliance police responded to a suspicious device call at Carhenge during the eclipse viewing there Monday.

Scottsbluff’s bomb squad blew the device up in a controlled explosion. Afterwards, they said it had the characteristics of a bomb but was not one.

starherald.com

Had someone actually brought an explosive to Carhenge during the eclipse, that could have been a real disaster; there were thousands of people there. The Alliance police weren’t taking chances.

The Scottsbluff Police Department bomb squad checked the device at Carhenge and “upon first observation, were not satisfied that it was not an explosive.” The team destroyed the device, which was later determined not to be an actual explosive device, but had characteristics of being one.

[Alliance Police Chief John] Kiss said the department wanted to thank the Scottsbluff bomb squad, Burlington Northern/Santa Fe Railroad, Alliance Fire Department, Box Butte County Sheriff’s Office and the Nebraska State Patrol for assistance in handling the incident.

Police departments across the region were strained to the limit with the number of tourists here. Other than massive traffic jams in places that never get them, and the suspicious device at Carhenge, there was little for police to do other than assist people and keep the dirt roads closed between US-20 and US-26.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:09:39pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Okay Sid, let’s put up new memorials that say the CSA were unconvicted traitors if you’re against ‘sanitizing history” so much.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:09:49pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Sid Miller called the decision to take down the Confederate flag and four others that had flown over Six Flags part of a “militant, anarchist movement sweeping our country, destroying and attempting to sanitize our nation’s history.”

Those militant, anarchist corporations making corporate decisions. That can’t stand, man! - Wingnut (R)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:15:43pm

Glad I missed Trump’s Nurem errr Phoenix speech. Sigh though. Why. Just why did the R’s have to nominate him and then why did it have to be close enough for the Russian interference to work. Donald Trump should have been the least successful major party nominee of my lifetime. Instead he replaced the best president of mine. Trump is easily the worst president we’ve had. Others were bad but at least they cared about the country and or had personal admirable traits. Trump? That he’s in the list as Washington, Lincoln, the Roosevelts, etc makes me sick and weep for our country.

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:16:02pm

“They take it out and they clean it” sounds a lot like the explanation of Brawndo.

Pvt. Joe Bowers: What *are* these electrolytes? Do you even know?
Secretary of State: They’re… what they use to make Brawndo!
Pvt. Joe Bowers: But *why* do they use them to make Brawndo?
Secretary of Defense: [raises hand after a pause] Because Brawndo’s got electrolytes.

We are, indeed, living in the Idiocracy.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:19:20pm

re: #8 BeachDem

We are, indeed, living in the Idiocracy.

Ow, my balls.

Giphy

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:22:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:23:25pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Okay Sid, let’s put up new memorials that say the CSA were unconvicted traitors if you’re against ‘sanitizing history” so much.

They’re starting to believe their own propaganda. That isn’t good either for the GOP or the nation.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:24:18pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹

They’re starting to believe their own propaganda. That isn’t good either for the GOP or the nation.

No it’s not.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:25:56pm

Honest question.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:26:26pm

We’re only seven months into this. I think that’s the most insane of all. Seven months. Put things in perspective. This point in the Bush administration, 9/11 was still a few weeks away.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:30:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:32:12pm

It’s true. All powerful nations do decline and fall. But has a nation lost its credibility as quickly as ours as has under Trump? This damage I fear won’t be fixed until I’m either very old or deed.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:34:07pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon 🌹

Third time today…

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And just wait until tomorrow.

These people…

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:34:18pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

The traffic out of Madras Oregon was insane. 2 lane road. one direction packed the other virtually empty. People arrived over several days but all left within a half hour of the end of totality. My daughter and I were on back streets but when we got to 97 the traffic hardly moved, most of the movement was people turning around and leaving space. We barely got 1 MPH for the first 3 hours, then every time there was a passing lane the morons couldn’t merge back together smoothly. South of Bend we got to the same situation with the passing lanes so my daughter found an alternate route that saved an hour. and we only had about another 90 minutes of traffic jam on 97 before everybody spaced apart about 100-300 yards and traffic flowed smoothly at 65. Nobody passed or bunched up, they were just happy to be moving. It took us 7 hours to get from Madras to our hotel in Klamath Falls. about a 2.5 hour trip at 4 AM on the way up. I saw what I think is every trooper they had, on duty, in a vehicle. All in all I think it worked better than it seemed at the time. I want to commend Oregon DOT on closing off the passing lanes after they saw the morons trying to merge at the end. Great job Orange Vest Dudes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:34:34pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Honest question.

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Maybe I should put them on my Smart?

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:35:04pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Honest question.

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Nope.

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:37:44pm

HuffPo leads never disappoint. Current:

AMERICAN PSYCHO

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:38:19pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

It’s true. All powerful nations do decline and fall. But has a nation lost its credibility as quickly as ours as has under Trump? This damage I fear won’t be fixed until I’m either very old or deed.

Nope.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:38:48pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

Same thing happened here. Our village was packed with a couple thousand people. There were tens of thousands in Alliance, more in Scottsbluff, &c.

Right after the eclipse was over, all those tens of thousands at Carhenge came down the only road south (US-385), which turned into a fifty-mile parking lot as it intersected with all the people leaving Bridgeport and Broadwater.

From Bridgeport south, it’s still fifty miles to I-80. Out of here, it’s eighty miles to I-80, and that’s pretty much it for paved roads.

My neighbour took her two kids to school on the day of the eclipse, and it took her over four hours to go sixteen miles and back.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:40:43pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe I should put them on my Smart?

If you do, I think the brass balls are appropriate, given your location (lots of pick up trucks).

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:40:49pm

I find myself making redundant answers to softballs being lobbed to me on the Board.

Keep feeding me! I’m in Nope mode!

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wheat-dogg  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:42:41pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

The traffic out of Madras Oregon was insane. 2 lane road. one direction packed the other virtually empty. People arrived over several days but all left within a half hour of the end of totality. My daughter and I were on back streets but when we got to 97 the traffic hardly moved, most of the movement was people turning around and leaving space. We barely got 1 MPH for the first 3 hours, then every time there was a passing lane the morons couldn’t merge back together smoothly. South of Bend we got to the same situation with the passing lanes so my daughter found an alternate route that saved an hour. and we only had about another 90 minutes of traffic jam on 97 before everybody spaced apart about 100-300 yards and traffic flowed smoothly at 65. Nobody passed or bunched up, they were just happy to be moving. It took us 7 hours to get from Madras to our hotel in Klamath Falls. about a 2.5 hour trip at 4 AM on the way up. I saw what I think is every trooper they had, on duty, in a vehicle. All in all I think it worked better than it seemed at the time. I want to commend Oregon DOT on closing off the passing lanes after they saw the morons trying to merge at the end. Great job Orange Vest Dudes.

We were among the hundreds of thousands of car heading north on I-25 into Wyoming yesterday, and among the same number of cars leaving Wyoming within minutes of the eclipse ending. Traffic moved along quite well — no stop and go jams — but the average speeds were nowhere close to the posted 80 mph (!) in Wyoming or 75 mph in Colorado. So, we could not reach Casper in time for the eclipse, and settled for a shorter glimpse of totality in Wheatland. It was still pleasant. The Arby’s there was doing a brisk business and welcomed those of us camped out in their parking and front lawn. They even closed down between 11:30 and 12:30 to allow the workers to view the eclipse. My son and I had lunch, and there was no problem using the restroom. All in all, I’m glad we ended up with the less crowded, less stressful venue.

We’re talking about Argentina next time around.

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freetoken  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:43:00pm

The opening audio of this 1959 classic seems befitting for our condition:

house on haunted hill old horror

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:43:27pm

nbcnews.com

The man who killed his friend after a taping of the Jenny Jones Show in 1995 because his friend expressed romantic interest in him has been paroled from prison.

He turned himself in to the police after he shot his friend to death; his reasoning for the killing was his friend embarrassed him on national television.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:44:40pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

If you do, I think the brass balls are appropriate, given your location (lots of pick up trucks).

My wife says “Nope” to Truck Nutz on the Smart.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:45:25pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

The worst traffic I dealt with was on 99W going south from Corvallis, by which I mean it took us maybe an hour and fifteen minutes to get back to Eugene where it had taken an hour to make our way north from there. We left within 3 minutes of totality ending.

Then there was one slowdown on I-5 near Redding due to road construction, but otherwise it was 75 pretty much the entire way south. As it was it still took nearly 12 hours to get home. We’re glad we never saw the parking lot that I-5 apparently was in some other places.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:49:18pm

re: #30 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I-25 in Colorado and Wyoming was a joke from 2 a.m. Monday onward. wheat-dogg couldn’t even get to his stated destination, had to settle for a spot just right inside the totality boundary.

I heard that a half hour after totality, it took almost six hours to drive from Douglas, WY to Ft. Collins, CO which is normally a two and a half hour drive.

wheat-dogg, how was the drive?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:51:46pm

re: #30 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The worst traffic I dealt with was on 99W going south from Corvallis, by which I mean it took us maybe an hour and fifteen minutes to get back to Eugene where it had taken an hour to make our way north from there. We left within 3 minutes of totality ending.

Then there was one slowdown on I-5 near Redding due to road construction, but otherwise it was 75 pretty much the entire way south. As it was it still took nearly 12 hours to get home. We’re glad we never saw the parking lot that I-5 apparently was in some other places.

Our problem here is that the Nebraska Panhandle was touted as excellent for viewing due to the arid nature of the area. Other eclipses here in the past were also clear.

Thus tens of thousands of tourists poured into an area with almost no motels, almost no paved roads, no Internet or cell service outside cities (and not much in them), no significant police forces, virtually no medical facilities, &c.

Aside from the traffic apocalypse here (which kept us in the village all week; today was the first day we ventured out other than a single trip I took up the closed road to check on the water tower), I am amazed how well everything went here.

No major medical issues, no significant increase in crime. The only problem was city folk going into pastures that didn’t belong to them for several days before the eclipse, and leaving open gates, allowing cattle to escape. Ranchers locked gates and turned on electric fences to deter city tourists. Closing the roads also helped with that.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:53:01pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Solar eclipse watchers tend to be good people.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:53:48pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

I-25 in Colorado and Wyoming was a joke from 2 a.m. Monday onward. wheat-dogg couldn’t even get to his stated destination, had to settle for a spot just right inside the totality boundary.

I heard that a half hour after totality, it took almost six hours to drive from Douglas, WY to Ft. Collins, CO which is normally a two and a half hour drive.

wheat-dogg, how was the drive?

Well, from Wheatland, it was not too bad. I reckon there were tons more folks further north (Douglas, Guernsey and Casper) glomming up the highway. It took us about 4 hours to reach Denver International to return the rental car.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:54:43pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Solar eclipse watchers tend to be good people.

(pats wife and self on backs)

Other than the cattlepocalypse we’re still dealing with around here rounding up stray cattle it went pretty well. Our economy certainly benefited from the mass infusion of Ameros.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:55:23pm

re: #34 wheat-dogg

Well, from Wheatland, it was not too bad. I reckon there were tons more folks further north (Douglas, Guernsey and Casper) glomming up the highway. It took us about 4 hours to reach Denver International to return the rental car.

Ayup, there was traffic. Under normal traffic, that should have taken two and a half hours.

C’est la vie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 10:58:41pm

re: #36 teleskiguy

Ayup, there was traffic. Under normal traffic, that should have taken two and a half hours.

C’est la vie.

Monday (the first day of school in Bridgeport), the drive which should take fifteen minutes took two hours one way. I wonder how many students were late the first day there and in Dalton. (Our town’s school district map looks like someone through paint into a fan. When our three-room schoolhouse closed in 2005, residents were allowed to pick which school district their house belongs to. Mine belongs to Dalton, my next-door neighbour and across the street belong to Bridgeport.)

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:00:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:01:34pm
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wheat-dogg  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:01:46pm

re: #36 teleskiguy

Ayup, there was traffic. Under normal traffic, that should have taken two and a half hours.

C’est la vie.

All things considered, it was not bad. No accidents. We saw a few cars and one semi stuck on the shoulder, and the highway patrols were being very prompt to address those issues. The Wheatland police had officers directing traffic to prevent snarls (no traffic lights, y’know), too.

We met a lady my age who had never seen an eclipse before, and a young fellow who turned out to be a Purdue grad like my son. His Indiana Purdue license plate was the tip-off. ;-)

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wheat-dogg  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:03:21pm

OK, good night, all. Woke up at 6:30, and now it’s midnight. See y’all later.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:04:05pm

re: #40 wheat-dogg

All things considered, it was not bad. No accidents. We saw a few cars and one semi stuck on the shoulder, and the highway patrols were being very prompt to address those issues. The Wheatland police had officers directing traffic to prevent snarls (no traffic lights, y’know), too.

We met a lady my age who had never seen an eclipse before, and a young fellow who turned out to be a Purdue grad like my son. His Indiana Purdue license plate was the tip-off. ;-)

I spoke to my elderly neighbour behind my house this evening to ask if her son could mow our tumbleweeds lawn. I also asked why she was not out for the eclipse. Turns out she was very ill, so she watched it on television, as she’s seen one before here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:04:46pm

re: #41 wheat-dogg

OK, good night, all. Woke up at 6:30, and now it’s midnight. See y’all later.

Take care dude. That was an amazing eclipse photo. I’m going to hide mine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:05:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:06:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:07:32pm

I enquired of the woman on the Yahoo Group I manage if she was a commentator or a reader here; she replied (name withheld):

I was just a reader. It seems like that was years ago and I’d forgotten all about it. I’m delighted to find it again and I’ll be a regular.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:07:47pm

The alt-right is reacting to Phoenix in exactly the way that one would expect them to do so.

Pitcavage is the Senior Research fellow at the ADL, and specializes in far-right extremism. The responses to this tweet are rather disgusting to say the least, with more than a few direct threats of violence toward him.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:08:00pm

Most hippy ski bum thing ever. Slacklining across Corbet’s Couloir in Jackson Hole during the solar eclipse.

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retired cynic  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:08:12pm

Comments #44 and #45 sure do sum up the evening. I think I’ll call it one. Shudder.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:11:17pm

re: #45 FormerDirtDart

Nice guy.

Yeah, I don’t really think we need to be trying to “understand their issues” as he seems to be pretty clear about them.

If he is willing to say those things to a reporter, I can imagine what he’s like in private.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:17:25pm

Now I know why Shannyn Moore unfollowed me on Twitter. She followed me for years and retweeted and liked scores of my tweets.

I’ve made clear that I despise Bernie.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:22:30pm

On a scale nowhere near as cool as the total eclipse, but really cool on it’s own; My daughter and I stopped in Bend, OR and visited a Cannabis store. Woo-Hoo! I was like a kid at Christmas, They had about 30 strains of buds and my daughter and I made our first legal purchases of weed. (Come on California!!!)

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:24:09pm

So I’ve got a gray water pipe from the kitchen sink to the sewer line that has broken and a toilet mount screw that has completely rusted out.

Ah, the joys of home ownership!

I’ll be under the house tomorrow doing repairs, But before that, I’ve got to get the Impala to the repair shop because it’s spewing oil like a west Texas blowout. Crankcase seal has failed.

Why does life have to be so expensive?

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:24:48pm

re: #52 Single-handed sailor

On a scale nowhere near as cool as the total eclipse, but really cool on it’s own; My daughter and I stopped in Bend, OR and visited a Cannabis store. Woo-Hoo! I was like a kid at Christmas, They had about 30 strains of buds and my daughter and I made our first legal purchases of weed. (Come on California!!!)

😁

I documented my first ever legal purchase and tweeted about it. It was in Aspen, CO over three years ago.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:26:12pm

re: #52 Single-handed sailor

There’s one of those a block away from where I live. At least the governor here did something that was forward thinking. He surprises me from time to time since he’s a Republican.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:26:26pm

Checking in again from the Brookings, OR fire zone… :)

Today the PTB defined “much” (as in “the fire didn’t advance much”) from yesterday as 7,500 acres. Ouch. I guess it isn’t much compared the the previous two days…lol! The Chetco Bar fire is now at 98,000 acres but at least the weather is being as kind as it can for our area. Winds from the W/SW were very light to nonexistent. Thick, heavy white smoke hung over the area all day with visibility to about two city blocks but it was worth it to give the firefighters a chance to tackle the S/SW flanks of the fire (most active areas). This evening our normal heavy drippy fog that wasn’t in the forecast made it’s now very welcome return. Everything along the coast is soaked and I hope it is extending inland as well. The PTB said that humidity recovery was good last night, as were other conditions for firefighting.

We now have 788 fire personnel on hand, up from 360 yesterday! Everyone is welcoming them and making sure they are taken care of when they are off of the lines. The westernmost area of the level 3 evac zone has been dropped to a level 2 (except for a small area above Brookings), allowing owners to return to their property with the recommendation that any large animals remain at the county fairgrounds in Gold Beach (emergency animal shelter). They have to be ready to haul out at a moments notice in case conditions change, as expected. I think the PTB are doing this to ease congestion at the shelter in Gold Beach. The first evac was supposed to be about 700 people, the second was about 1,500 more and the last added 1,700 more to the total, so this makes some sense.

I snagged a copy of the fire zone map and marked how about how large the fire was less than a week ago.

2017 Chetco Bar Fire - 98,000 Acres Consumed

That’s pretty much what a two day Chetco Effect wind did to it and they are forecasting another one this Friday. The good news is that they have rarely ever accurately forecast one yet and I hope it stays that way! The temp today was forecast at 67 on the coast and we only hit 59, which also meant lower temps in the fire area. Tonight the winds are forecast as “calm”, no direction, and tomorrow is supposed to be calm in the AM and changing to from the west at 6 MPH in the afternoon. It also says clearing to sunny and 67 but I doubt that very much. Here’s a shot of the sun from today.

It’s a Barbie Sun!

Regarding Trump, I keep trying to write about what a piece of shit he is or about his latest bullshit and my brain just fucking shorts out from input overload. I have barely controlled HBP and I’ve been avoiding delving too far into his shit in any responses because I just get pissed off and I know it’s not good for my health. Just know that I talk to others in my community and both call and write my congresscritters (DeFazio/Wyden) to let them know where my family and I stand on Hair Furor. I haven’t once referred to Err Furor as “President” in my correspondence to/conversations with them but I have no doubt that they have heard of at least one of many names from the list that I’ve compiled from the internet. I swear I’ve heard some laughing while on the phone but they are professional so maybe not. ;)

Fuck Trump and fuck the human lampreys that have attached themselves to his oversized sphincter.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:26:44pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

Now I know why Shannyn Moore unfollowed me on Twitter. She followed me for years and retweeted and liked scores of my tweets.

I’ve made clear that I despise Bernie.

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So she’s saying the country would’ve picked Sanders because he would’ve been the most masochistic option?

Not sure I agree with all of her police work there Lou.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:30:39pm

re: #53 austin_blue

So I’ve got a gray water pipe from the kitchen sink to the sewer line that has broken and a toilet mount screw that has completely rusted out.

Ah, the joys of home ownership!

I’ll be under the house tomorrow doing repairs, But before that, I’ve got to get the Impala to the repair shop because it’s spewing oil like a west Texas blowout. Crankcase seal has failed.

Why does life have to be so expensive?

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

Could be worse, you could own a boat.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:31:43pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

😁

I documented my first ever legal purchase and tweeted about it. It was in Aspen, CO over three years ago.

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I never even thought to take pictures, that’s how excited I was.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:32:13pm

re: #58 Single-handed sailor

Annnnnd as the old joke goes. The two best days of owning a boat are when you buy it and when you sell it.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:45:56pm

re: #60 alloutofcrazyhere

Annnnnd as the old joke goes. The two best days of owning a boat are when you buy it and when you sell it.

Everything in moderation, my friend.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:48:58pm

I have friends that own boats, snowmobiles, Polaris RZRs. Some of them have gotten carried away and gone into serious debt, and some enjoy their toys immensely and don’t feel the need to replace every season. Everything in moderation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:49:52pm

Orwell had nothing on the GOP:

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:50:59pm

It’s scorching here at the lake in the summer. You do have a lot of fun, but you’ll be completely drained by the end of it all.

Keeping that in mind, I made the mistake of camping at the lake during the summer in August many years ago. Yeah, that didn’t go too well.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:54:45pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

It’s always a good indicator of a recession when people start selling their toys.

As for me, I’ll stick with computers. At least they are cheaper. I am hoping that VR/AR catches on in a big way though. It looks like a lot of fun.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:54:56pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

As a former live-aboard, there’s nothing worse than finding your home is sinking into the bay. My bilge pump sucked up a wood bung and it blocked one flap from closing. which caused the output to siphon water into the boat with every pump of the pump which was told to pump by the rising water in the cabin. It only happened while underway as the boat got sucked down lower into the water by the hull-speed effect. if not underway teh pump exit was above water.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:55:36pm

re: #66 Single-handed sailor

EEK!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 22, 2017 • 11:59:05pm

re: #66 Single-handed sailor

Yikes.

I once considered purchasing a boat and tying it up at a marina for a home, since at the time I never thought I would be able to buy a house.

Then I started talking to people who did or had lived on boats. Changed my mind.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 23, 2017 • 12:07:40am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes.

I once considered purchasing a boat and tying it up at a marina for a home, since at the time I never thought I would be able to buy a house.

Then I started talking to people who did or had lived on boats. Changed my mind.

A boat is a hole in the water that you throw money into.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 23, 2017 • 12:09:23am

So, I see this thing on Facebook - “Should California Remove Its Confederate Monuments?”

And I think, “What? Why in hell do we have Confederate monuments in California, a FREE state, part of the UNION, 1500 miles from the war? Not only was the Confederacy treason against the Union, for the worst possible reason EVER, but they LOST, and again, they did it 1500 miles away!”

I have an idea. People are saying, “You can’t take down Confederate monuments! They’re part of history! We need to remember history!!”

Okay. How about this: we leave the statues up. But we replace all the little brass plaques with ones that say this:

This guy went to war to ensure that black people would never be free; that they could be bought and sold like livestock; that they could be raped; beaten, even killed with impunity; that their children could be sold off like piglets in the market. To preserve and extend this, he was willing to kill hundreds of thousands of his fellow Americans.

This statue itself was put up decades later, as a monument not to the Civil War, but to the success of White Supremacy during the Jim Crow era.

Knowing all this, feel free to express your feelings, as graphically as you like, using whatever tools or bodily fluids/substances you wish. Pigeons have been shitting on him for most of a century.
Show them what you can do.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 23, 2017 • 12:25:00am

While I’m at it, another thing - I frequently compare the Confederacy with Nazi Germany. This tends to upset even people who are moderate, largely because being equated with Nazis is about as bad as it can get, and for good reason.

But read the secession declarations. Clearly, they felt they were the Master Race. Clearly, they felt that their fellow man was less human than they were. Clearly, they felt they had the right of life and death over other races for that reason. The main difference is that the Confederacy needed the labor of the slaves more than the Nazis needed the labor of the Jews, Roma, and others. The Nazis used that labor, of course, but German entered the Nazi era with more than enough German workers. They didn’t need to have a large population of slaves, because they had more people than jobs already.

Now, it’s possible that the Slave States might NOT have exterminated all the slaves if they suddenly found themselves with only work enough to keep the white people working. But they never faced that. Certainly, they would not have welcomed them staying there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 12:34:40am

Gaaa.

I just got an E-mail from the state government noting that due to our last failed water test (conducted while I was in surgery), the state will be sending an agent to “assess” the village’s water system compliance and the water operator (that would be me - I’m sure getting a lot of crap for a job I’m not being paid for). That assessment of me will be a documented counselling session (yay) and training (not sure if I can do the training due to my hand).

After that, a mandatory thirty-day chlorination period for our water system, along with daily tests from the furthest point in the system. (The E-mail didn’t say if that was the furthest sample station, or the literal furthest point - I imagine that homeowner would be pissed if I had to come to his house every day for a month to test chlorination levels.)

I sent back an E-mail requesting clarification, and noted that my hand is still in a cast until the end of the month followed by physical therapy to regain use of it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 12:43:34am
Worldwide trends

#MasterChefBR
花咲徳栄
#PhoenixRally
#اسير_الحمدين_علي_ال_ثاني
#اسبوعين_وتصير_صف_كم
Déborah
#WednesdayWisdom
Jon Jones
バンド経験者
Michelle

Deborah and Michelle seem to be popular on Twitter tonight.

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Scout  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:04:28am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

My Japanese isn’t as good as it should be, but バンド経験者 seems to be a cute little quiz on a website put together by a rock star drummer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:27:22am

re: #74 Scout

My Japanese isn’t as good as it should be, but バンド経験者 seems to be a cute little quiz on a website put together by a rock star drummer.

My Japanese is non-existent. I can find Japan on a map.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:33:57am

re: #71 Blind Frog Belly White

Now, it’s possible that the Slave States might NOT have exterminated all the slaves if they suddenly found themselves with only work enough to keep the white people working. But they never faced that. Certainly, they would not have welcomed them staying there.

It’s pure speculation on my part, but I think that under those circumstances, the Slave States would’ve simply bundled their slaves on to ships heading straight to Africa. An en masse forced deportation.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:35:45am

What could possibly go wrong?

Florida sheriff urges residents to get guns, be prepared for mass shootings

A sheriff in Winter Haven, Florida, is asking people in his county to get a gun and be ready to fight back in case of a mass shooting.

“Become proficient. Get a concealed firearms license and carry it. And if you need to shoot somebody, shoot them a lot,” Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told WFTS.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:39:12am

Fox News Fans in Meltdown over Petition to Replace Confederate Monument with Missy Elliot Statue (Goes to Raw Story, more at the link):

One resident of Portsmouth, Virginia, has come up with a novel plan for removing a Confederate monument in his town — and it involves replacing it with a statue of rapper Missy Elliott.

Elliott, who was born in Portsmouth in 1971, has scored several major hits over the course of her career, including “The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly),” “Get Ur Freak On,” and “Work It.”

Nathan Coflin, the man behind a change.org petition to the Portsmouth City Council to replace the statue, writes that putting up a statue to Elliott will be a great replacement for Confederate monuments that he believes represent white supremacy.

“Getting this statue put up will be a lot of work and you may ask yourself is it worth it?” he writes in the petition, in a play off the lyrics of Elliott’s song “Work It.” “I say yes and ask you to join me in letting us work it. Together we can put white supremacy down, flip it and reverse it.”

Fox News reported on Coflin’s petition — and its fans were not happy about it.

Check out some of their angriest responses to the Fox report on the Missy Elliott statue below.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:49:38am

In response to Chelsea Clinton coming to Barron Trump’s defence after Tucker Carlson’s blog attacked Barron for not wearing suitable clothes as an eleven-year-old, Melania Trump responded to her.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:55:42am

Condolences by tweet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 1:58:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:07:01am

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:20:53am

Cthulu for America has updated their Website with new swag supporting the election of Cthulu in 2020.

cthulhuforamerica.com

Cthulu’s political platform hasn’t been updated since the 2016 election, but I imagine the majority of the two hundred planks would remain the same. (Vote for the greater evil, change would not be an empty promise, the economy does better when you sacrifice a large portion of your population, eating Wall Street accountants is the toughest and most bloody of all candidates, &c)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:29:34am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Sid Miller called the decision to take down the Confederate flag and four others that had flown over Six Flags part of a “militant, anarchist movement sweeping our country, destroying and attempting to sanitize our nation’s history.”

Now this is a case where there is an actual and valid historical context surrounding the flag, one that makes it rather less offensive than flying it over a state courthouse.

Problem here is that a sense of history, nuance and context are lost in the current shouting match that we call political discourse in our country.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:29:45am

I accidentally clicked on NRO in my stupor and I saw this.

OK, even if she is a hawk she’s not fucking insane.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:31:26am

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe I should put them on my Smart?

Smart Ballz (TM)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:31:47am

re: #86 Single-handed sailor

I accidentally clicked on NRO in my stupor and I saw this.

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OK, even if she is a hawk she’s not fucking insane.

Ah, but if Cthulu wins, she will be (if she’s not eaten first).

How could you accidentally click on the National Review? Should you do a sweep for malware?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:36:26am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

We pray for our fallen heroes who died while serving our country in the USNavy aboard the USS John S McCain, and their families.

…although I prefer sending condolences to sailors who are killed on ships that are not named after guys who get captured…

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:41:21am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Ah, but if Cthulu wins, she will be (if she’s not eaten first).

How could you accidentally click on the National Review? Should you do a sweep for malware?

I have bookmarks for liberal and conservative sites. Sometimes the hand operates without input from the brain.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:41:28am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…although I prefer sending condolences to sailors who are killed on ships that are not named after guys who get captured…

I would prefer a commander-in-chief that respected the military that serves voluntarily under the command of the civilian government.

There has been no Republican president in my lifetime that respected the men and women over whom he had the authority to order into battle and die. None of them. (Well, Eisenhower, but I was an infant in his presidency.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:45:07am

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

I would prefer a commander-in-chief that respected the military that serves voluntarily under the command of the civilian government.

There has been no Republican president in my lifetime that respected the men and women over whom he had the authority to order into battle and die. None of them. (Well, Eisenhower, but I was an infant in his presidency.)

I was also born when Eisenhower was still President…

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:51:02am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was also born when Eisenhower was still President…

My twin brother from a different mother! (Maybe I should ask my mother about that: am I really your only son?)

Boring fact: I fit into the tiny cohort of Americans (well, I’m an American unless you believe people like Rep. Steve King) that were born under the forty-nine star US flag. (Most people seem not to know we had a forty-nine star flag.) Second boring fact: We have a forty-nine star flag in the village museum that used to fly on the school flagstaff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 2:58:47am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

My twin brother from a different mother! (Maybe I should ask my mother about that: am I really your only son?)

Boring fact: I fit into the tiny cohort of Americans (well, I’m an American unless you believe people like Rep. Steve King) that were born under the forty-nine star US flag. (Most people seem not to know we had a forty-nine star flag.) Second boring fact: We have a forty-nine star flag in the village museum that used to fly on the school flagstaff.

actually, we do seem to be some kinda distant relatives: Central/Eastern European origin, interest in hammer dulcimer music, working with proofreading and languages and, of course, political sensibilities…

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Nyet  Aug 23, 2017 • 3:13:45am

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 3:24:44am

Eye to the south for a potential hurricane for Texas or Louisiana.

nhc.noaa.gov

(Hover over the red X for a pop-up with the latest information)

The remnants of Tropical Storm Harvey have moved into the Bay of Campeche. The National Hurricane Center is expecting they will issue Tropical Storm or Hurricane Warnings for NE Mexico, all of the Texas coast, and parts of Louisiana later today. Predictions are that the disturbance will become a Tropical Storm (90%) within two days (likely earlier).

The NHC recommends all within the area should monitor the progress of the storm. It is expected to slow in forward motion, causing much more rainfall than normal in the area to the right of where it makes landfall.

Almost all models have the weather system as a strong Tropical Storm or Category I Hurricane within thirty-six hours.

wunderground.com (Dr. Jeff Masters, meteorologist, with detailed information about the system).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 3:47:27am

re: #95 Nyet

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 3:49:23am

re: #71 Blind Frog Belly White

While I’m at it, another thing - I frequently compare the Confederacy with Nazi Germany. This tends to upset even people who are moderate, largely because being equated with Nazis is about as bad as it can get, and for good reason.

But read the secession declarations. Clearly, they felt they were the Master Race. Clearly, they felt that their fellow man was less human than they were. Clearly, they felt they had the right of life and death over other races for that reason. The main difference is that the Confederacy needed the labor of the slaves more than the Nazis needed the labor of the Jews, Roma, and others. The Nazis used that labor, of course, but German entered the Nazi era with more than enough German workers. They didn’t need to have a large population of slaves, because they had more people than jobs already.

Now, it’s possible that the Slave States might NOT have exterminated all the slaves if they suddenly found themselves with only work enough to keep the white people working. But they never faced that. Certainly, they would not have welcomed them staying there.

They do have more in common with the Nazis than people like to admit and the Jim Crow South was a terrible place if you were black to say the least.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 3:53:51am

re: #86 Single-handed sailor

I accidentally clicked on NRO in my stupor and I saw this.

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OK, even if she is a hawk she’s not fucking insane.

And we would have been critical of her too. NRO, but but the Democrats isn’t intellectual debate at all. Plus Clinton would have actually had a strategy then vague bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 3:58:40am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:02:49am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Same here, late 50’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:02:54am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

They do have more in common with the Nazis than people like to admit and the Jim Crow South was a terrible place if you were black to say the least.

I agree but generally withhold the argument because it gets twisted and thrown back as Confederate flag = Nazi flag, which is not what I am trying to get across.

But again, a sense of history, nuance and context is the first casualty of the shouting war that is now what we call political discourse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:07:14am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree but generally withhold the argument because it gets twisted and thrown back as Confederate flag = Nazi flag, which is not what I am trying to get across.

But again, a sense of history, nuance and context is the first casualty of the shouting war that is now what we call political discourse.

That’s why I call the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia the “Dixie Swastika.”

Slave holding by Dixie planters is not really much different than Nazi forced labour camps. Neither were paid. Both abused their “charges.” Both used their efforts to support their war machines. Antebellum Dixie no longer held slaves, but Jim Crow wasn’t much different than pre-war Germany’s treatment of “undesirables.” Both killed those who opposed their systems.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:07:26am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree but generally withhold the argument because it gets twisted and thrown back as Confederate flag = Nazi flag, which is not what I am trying to get across.

But again, a sense of history, nuance and context is the first casualty of the shouting war that is now what we call political discourse.

I do too. I just think if necessary the white supremacist intent of the would be CSA founding fathers is fair game as is the fact that the Army of Northern Virginia would return free men and black Union soldiers to slavery. The CSA was not a noble entity at all.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:07:53am

I’m usually at work when everything goes down during the day, so I’m online late at night. I always try to read through the comments here. At some point I realized what I looked forward to most was reading tweets that you guys post. A few days ago I realized I could just break down and make a Twitter account and follow the people you guys post all the time. So I did that and holy hell is it an overwhelming time to be on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:09:49am

re: #105 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

I’m usually at work when everything goes down during the day, so I’m online late at night. I always try to read through the comments here. At some point I realized what I looked forward to most was reading tweets that you guys post. A few days ago I realized I could just break down and make a Twitter account and follow the people you guys post all the time. So I did that and holy hell is it an overwhelming time to be on Twitter.

Thanks for taking a hit for the team. /s

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:14:07am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

That’s why I call the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia the “Dixie Swastika.”

Slave holding by Dixie planters is not really much different than Nazi forced labour camps. Neither were paid. Both abused their “charges.” Both used their efforts to support their war machines. Antebellum Dixie no longer held slaves, but Jim Crow wasn’t much different than pre-war Germany’s treatment of “undesirables.” Both killed those who opposed their systems.

When I had some free time between flights last week, I was reading about the philosophers and philosophies that influenced the Nazis and CSA. One was a Frenchman named Arthur de Gobineau, whose writings very much influenced the whole Aryan master race bs. I personally think CSA apologists are so defensive because well no one wants to admit that their ancestors fought for such a cause. But to me the tragedy of white supremacist rule is another, that returning African American servicemen in both WWI and WWII were in many cases brutally murdered. Just imagine surviving the 1918 Spring Offensive, The Bulge, or the island hoping campaigns only to return home to that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:14:22am

Listening to “Policy of Truth” by Depeche Mode.

A sensible policy for GOP politicians—they should try it sometime.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:17:45am

A lot of those are extremely specific, and some aren’t even food. Pizza grease napkins?

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freetoken  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:19:27am

re: #109 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

Who could hate chili peppers?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:21:25am

re: #110 freetoken

Who could hate chili peppers?

Some of them are just weird and I have to say reenforce stereotypes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:22:45am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

When I had some free time between flights last week, I was reading about the philosophers and philosophies that influenced the Nazis and CSA. One was a Frenchman named Arthur de Gobineau, whose writings very much influenced the whole Aryan master race bs. I personally think CSA apologists are so defensive because well no one wants to admit that their ancestors fought for such a cause. But to me the tragedy of white supremacist rule is another, that returning African American servicemen in both WWI and WWII were in many cases brutally murdered. Just imagine surviving the 1918 Spring Offensive, The Bulge, or the island hoping campaigns only to return home to that.

I can almost understand not wanting to admit the actual cause. A hundred years of propaganda by CSA apologists also lead us to the point where some people today really believe that the war was not about preserving the “peculiar institution.”

A great number of CSA soldiers were drafted and had no real say in what they were fighting for, and a large number of southerners were supportive of the Union (sometimes at great personal risk if they stayed in Dixie). War is messy like that, but as one can see with CSA apologia, the winners don’t always write the history.

It takes either lack of knowledge (or miseducation) or cognitive dissonance to hold simultaneously “I am proud of my great-great-great uncle standing up for his state” and “he was supporting slavery.”

There are those today that would be just fine with slavery. The only thing to do is marginalise their odious ideas. The miseducated can be given proper information if they are open to it.

The hardest part for the supporter of the putative uncle above is admitting that he could be a good person and simultaneously be wrong.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:23:52am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I hate gluten-free food! All food I eat is gluten!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:25:36am

re: #109 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

The only thing I don’t like about chili peppers is they aren’t spicy enough—that’s why this household thanks the Hindu gods for creating the Naga Bhut pepper.

(We’ll be gearing up to make homemade salsa and hot sauce as soon as my hand is back in action. Every year we make up a year’s supply plus gifts. All thanks to the Masons for inventing the Mason jar. /s)

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freetoken  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:26:30am

re: #113 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

amazon.com

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:27:55am

re: #115 freetoken

OH MY GOD THAT IS LITERALLY POISON HOW IS THAT LEGAL??

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:28:40am

At least it’s non-GMO.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:28:50am

re: #115 freetoken

amazon.com

That’s a lot of gluten.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:30:36am

re: #113 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

I hate gluten-free food! All food I eat is gluten!

You could sprinkle some of that gluten from the Amazon link on things like a steak.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:32:21am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

Someone inform Wyoming. They could make a killing.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:33:19am

re: #109 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

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A lot of those are extremely specific, and some aren’t even food. Pizza grease napkins?

People who don’t like cold pizza? STONE THEM!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:33:41am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

I can almost understand not wanting to admit the actual cause. A hundred years of propaganda by CSA apologists also lead us to the point where some people today really believe that the war was not about preserving the “peculiar institution.”

A great number of CSA soldiers were drafted and had no real say in what they were fighting for, and a large number of southerners were supportive of the Union (sometimes at great personal risk if they stayed in Dixie). War is messy like that, but as one can see with CSA apologia, the winners don’t always write the history.

It takes either lack of knowledge (or miseducation) or cognitive dissonance to hold simultaneously “I am proud of my great-great-great uncle standing up for his state” and “he was supporting slavery.”

There are those today that would be just fine with slavery. The only thing to do is marginalise their odious ideas. The miseducated can be given proper information if they are open to it.

The hardest part for the supporter of the putative uncle above is admitting that he could be a good person and simultaneously be wrong.

Man “peculiar institution” and people complain about political correctness now. But yeah I get it, no one wants to admit their kin fought for slavery. I really have no problem if someone wants a CSA flag but I do wish they’d take a good look at the CSA.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:34:15am

‘Morning, Lizards,

I stayed up until 3AM local last night watching CNN, and by about 2:00 the GOP sent in reinforcements with two nascent lines of spin:

1. Trump has now denounced the alt-right and hate 4 times now, and last night he denounced them in front of his own followers! This proves he’s serious and isn’t a racist. (This, of course, completely ignored the fact that last night he left out huge chunks of what he actually said, and was reading what he said earlier in the week to paint himself as the victim.)

2. Anyone who says Trump is not fit for office simply does not like Trump.

A lesser spin line regarding Trump’s fitness for the office was ‘How many of you are doctors, and why do you think you can get away with diagnosing him on TV?’

We’ll see which one becomes the main talking point today. My money’s on #1, with sprinkles of #2 and #3 on top. But seriously - I see no way for them to credibly spin how totally arrogant and unhinged that performance was last night.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:35:00am

I thought mayo on fries was odd too but after spending time in Amsterdam and Bruges….

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:35:16am

re: #109 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

I do hate fast food but I also hate cilantro, tofu and many other things that others states don’t like.

But pineapple on pizza? Yum! :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:35:36am

In the store yesterday when we went to town, my wife jostled a pound of salami slices off a j-hook.

I reflexively shot my left hand out, and caught it as it fell. Unfortunately, the sharp plastic edge of the package struck directly on my surgical incision.

Until a few hours ago, I didn’t need to dig into the crate of Oxy the VA gave me for pain: Aspirin was sufficient. Now however the pain is horrendous. I finally dug out a crowbar to open the crate and get a tablet.

Aside from making me loopy, I really hate how that stuff turns all my skin into the itching of a human-sized mosquito bite.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:38:03am

And people against cottage cheese? What madness is this?!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:39:51am

Hummus? Come on Kentucky.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:41:32am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Man “peculiar institution” and people complain about political correctness now. But yeah I get it, no one wants to admit their kin fought for slavery. I really have no problem if someone wants a CSA flag but I do wish they’d take a good look at the CSA.

Well, the fellow in our county seat who flies the Dixie Swastika from his flagstaff (WTF this is Nebraska) took it down after Charlottesville. He’s flying a Cornhuskers flag now.

My neighbour with the “88” tattoo on her neck was out walking her dog just before the eclipse and stopped to talk to my wife and me. She initiated her conversation by saying she thought she needed to rethink her position.

(If she’s serious about that, I might be asking for help from the folks here at LGF on how to discuss this subject without driving her away. She already knows I am a socialistic liberal Democratic atheist so those won’t be stumbling blocks. But if she is serious about leaving behind the white supremacy support, I would like to help with that rather than foul it up.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:45:00am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Well, the fellow in our county seat who flies the Dixie Swastika from his flagstaff (WTF this is Nebraska) took it down after Charlottesville. He’s flying a Cornhuskers flag now.

My neighbour with the “88” tattoo on her neck was out walking her dog just before the eclipse and stopped to talk to my wife and me. She initiated her conversation by saying she thought she needed to rethink her position.

(If she’s serious about that, I might be asking for help from the folks here at LGF on how to discuss this subject without driving her away. She already knows I am a socialistic liberal Democratic atheist so those won’t be stumbling blocks. But if she is serious about leaving behind the white supremacy support, I would like to help with that rather than foul it up.)

That’s good. I’m glad your neighbors are rethinking. I’ll never get CSA romanticism. Makes no sense to me.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:45:44am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:46:23am

re: #109 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

Their maps are wrong. The area I live in is marked “Central Time Zone.” It is properly “Mythical Time Zone.”

buzzfeed.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:48:19am

re: #131 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

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Yeah, because pardoning Arpaio next week will make it less “controversial” than doing it last night.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:49:43am

Pardoning Arpaio last night would have taken attention away from Trump at his own rally.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:49:55am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:50:24am

re: #134 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

Pardoning Arpaio last night would have taken attention away from Trump at his own rally.

That’s the only logical reason I can think of why it didn’t happen.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:50:48am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

Their maps are wrong. The area I live in is marked “Central Time Zone.” It is properly “Mythical Time Zone.”

buzzfeed.com

This week I’ve been in the ‘Atlantic’ time zone. It’s kinda weird to be an hour ahead of New York, TBH.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:51:23am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

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Somewhere in the great beyond, a toilet explodes in celebration.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:51:33am

We just need to start a rumor that Arpaio said he could be bigger than Trump and is running in 2020, then for it to hit Fox News.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:53:09am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

That’s the only logical reason I can think of why it didn’t happen.

As Dubya once famously said, he catapulted the propaganda last night. Now the pundit class will spend a few days debating whether it’s a stupid idea or a really stupid idea.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:54:33am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Somewhere in the great beyond, a toilet explodes in celebration.

TV sets are launching themselves out of hotel room windows in tribute.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:54:39am

juanitajean.com

(Goes to Juanita Jean, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon, more at the link):

Cheeto Jesus didn’t disappoint tonight in his appearance for devotees in Phoenix. He shoveled manure in copious quantities. A few of his gems:

He reread his Saturday Charlottesville statement, but left out the “many sides” line.
Announced that indeed his first pardon was going to former Joe Arpaio, convicted criminal and country’s third most notorious racist. (Number one is Cheeto Jesus, of course, followed by David Duke. Luckily, Duke is not currently convicted of any race crimes, so no pardon currently needed. However, since Charles Manson is not eligible for parole until 2027, Trump could well go for him next.)
Lies again about Washington’s statues.
He’s going to cancel NAFTA.
The media is the real enemy that caused the violence in Charlottesville. That’s right, it wasn’t the racists wearing body armor and carrying clubs; it was those panty waist reporters.
He was hoping to take candy away from a kid on stage, but apparently they couldn’t find a kid willing to go up there.

It was Trump’s normal appalling performance that we have come to expect and continues to make us the laughingstock of the world.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:56:05am

Lre: #140 makeitstop

As Dubya once famously said, he catapulted the propaganda last night. Now the pundit class will spend a few days debating whether it’s a stupid idea or a really stupid idea.

Just glad Jeffrey Lord isn’t on CNN anymore to rationalize it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 4:57:20am

We’re going to need someone good not only to beat this sob but to fix his disastrous legacy.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:05:42am
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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:06:02am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:09:17am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

We’re going to need someone good not only to beat this sob but to fix his disastrous legacy.

We need someone good to beat Mike Pence (assuming he survives this). I honestly don’t believe that Dreckwork Orange is going to last the whole four years.

Mike “Torquemada” Pence is much more dangerous, because he understands how politics works, has the support of the GOP, and can cast himself as saner than Trump. (He’s not, he’s just better at hiding it.)

The Democratic Party really needs a plan to campaign against either of them, and potentially another person if they both go down.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:11:40am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

We’re going to need someone good not only to beat this sob but to fix his disastrous legacy.

Oh, they’ll find a replacement, even if it’s only a guest. They had some really obnoxious radio dude on last night who floated the ‘anyone who criticizes Trump just doesn’t like him’ spin point.

He used it on McConnell, Rick Wilson, and a Republican senator or two or three. As if it would make any difference as to how big a shitshow this administration is.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:12:44am

re: #148 makeitstop

Oh, they’ll find a replacement, even if it’s only a guest. They had some really obnoxious radio dude on last night who floated the ‘anyone who criticizes Trump just doesn’t like him’ spin point.

He used it on McConnell, Rick Wilson, and a Republican senator or two or three. As if it would make any difference as to how big a shitshow this administration is.

Oops, this was supposed to be a response to #143, not #144. Moar coffee…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:13:25am

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹

We need someone good to beat Mike Pence (assuming he survives this). I honestly don’t believe that Dreckwork Orange is going to last the whole four years.

Mike “Torquemada” Pence is much more dangerous, because he understands how politics works, has the support of the GOP, and can cast himself as saner than Trump. (He’s not, he’s just better at hiding it.)

The Democratic Party really needs a plan to campaign against either of them, and potentially another person if they both go down.

That too. But yeah You’re right, we may not even be up either of those two.

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jeffreyw  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:14:14am

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Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:14:25am

re: #149 makeitstop

Oops, this was supposed to be a response to #143, not #144. Moar coffee…

All good but yeah Trump has a cult of personality. That’s the most scary of all to me. They are devoted to him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:22:42am

Lost in wingnut Idaho Rep. Bryan Zollinger’s (R) unhinged idea that George Soros orchestrated Nazis in Charlottesville to make consevatives look bad, was Louie Gohmert (R-Texas, hold my beer).

Spelling out his baseless scenario [on FOX News Channel], Gohmert suggests the Democratic mayor of Charlottesville and the Democratic governor of Virginia somehow conspired to lure white supremacists and liberal counter-protesters to the city, made sure they battled in the streets, and that law enforcement did nothing in response.

“There is a strategy to make race the number one issue in 2018 and 2020. They think it’s their ticket back this is going to blow up in their face,” Gohmert said.

Gohmert even claims there are “witnesses” who saw KKK and Black Lives Matters protesters get off the same buses in Charlottesville, implying they were simply paid actors by Democrats. Gohmert urged Trump to appoint an independent counsel to investigate Democrats, even though presidents do not, and cannot, appoint independent counsels.

“We need an investigation as to what happened in Charlottesville,” he demanded. “Who paid for the different groups to come in? Who ordered the funneling of those groups together? Who ordered to stand by while the violence goes on?”

Note that not once during the Fox interview when asked about the deadly violence unleashed by Nazis and white supremacists did Gohmert ever condemn the Nazis and white supremacists. He only condemned Democrats for supposedly helping to stage the deadly confrontation.

More at shareblue.com

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:24:44am

Yeah, and this just happened….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:24:59am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Lost in wingnut Idaho Rep. Bryan Zollinger’s (R) unhinged idea that George Soros orchestrated Nazis in Charlottesville to make consevatives look bad, was Louie Gohmert (R-Texas, hold my beer).

More at shareblue.com

As bad as Zollinger’s comments were, Gohmert’s are even worse. Sick son of a bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:25:27am

re: #154 Dr. Matt

Yeah, and this just happened….

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Your former party’s base, Joe.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:28:35am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Your former party’s base, Joe.

Yup. This is what happens when a party spends decades worshipping scum like Limbaugh et al.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:31:30am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Your former party’s base, Joe.

Yeah, I think “former” is still rather absurd. Joe is as much an “independent” as all those folks who still pulled the “R” lever in ‘08 and ‘12.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:34:54am

re: #158 Targetpractice

Yeah, I think “former” is still rather absurd. Joe is as much an “independent” as all those folks who still pulled the “R” lever in ‘08 and ‘12.

When someone says they are “independent”, it’s almost a certainty they are just a Republican too embarrassed to label themselves as one.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:37:31am

re: #159 Dr. Matt

When someone says they are “independent”, it’s almost a certainty they are just a Republican too embarrassed to label themselves as one.

I’m a conservative not a Republican! Yet they pull the GOP lever time and time again.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:38:09am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

Yup. This is what happens when a party spends decades worshipping scum like Limbaugh et al.

For a long time, Rush was the party base’s most admired man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:40:15am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

As bad as Zollinger’s comments were, Gohmert’s are even worse. Sick son of a bitch.

I really don’t think the Democrats need to make race an issue—the GOP is doing well on their own with that.

(Well, we do, but in the sense we care to see everyone succeed with real opportunity, and to do that we need good voter turnout.)

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:40:29am

re: #109 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

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A lot of those are extremely specific, and some aren’t even food. Pizza grease napkins?

Don’t go questioning the mighty Buzzfeed!

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:40:37am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:40:38am

Seeing relatives slobbering all over Franky Graham KKKraKKKer’s full throttle pulpit pimping last night. “God forgave Trump’s sins…” BS…

Tax these pulpit pimps and their tax shelter churches!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:44:03am

If Democrats are so powerful we can conspire to bring flippin’ Nazis to a place to make the GOP look bad,

1) Why aren’t we in control of every government position from dogcatcher to President, and
b) What does it say about Republicans that we can control them so easily, Rep. Gohmert?

Louie is my brother-in-law’s representative. He despises Louie.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:46:16am

Dems also stage every shooting to pass gun control legislation that never gets passed.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:46:37am

I broke my own rule again. So as you may or not know, the Little League world series is going on. It’s truly a wonderful event. It brings kids together of all nations to play baseball in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. The Dominican team blew a lead to the Venezuelan team last night. The young Dominican pitcher was quite sad. The Venezulean coaches consoled the kid by saying “We are all Latino.” And the response from the usual suspects was “What if they had said, we are all white.” First off Hispanic isn’t a race, it’s a culture not a race. Hispanics range in skin tone from paler than me to my niece and individuals darker than President Obama. All that makes someone a Hispanic is having roots in the former Portuguese and Spanish new world. So sick of whiny white people making it all about us. These are people who would be proud if an Anglo coach said “We are all Americans”. But yeah keep on whining about liberal “double standarsd” you imbred fuckwits.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:47:00am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

If Democrats are so powerful we can conspire to bring flippin’ Nazis to a place to make the GOP look bad,

1) Why aren’t we in control of every government position from dogcatcher to President, and
b) What does it say about Republicans that we can control them so easily, Rep. Gohmert?

Louie is my brother-in-law’s representative. He despises Louie.

Stop making sense!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:48:10am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Gohmert even claims there are “witnesses” who saw KKK and Black Lives Matters protesters get off the same buses in Charlottesville, implying they were simply paid actors by Democrats. Gohmert urged Trump to appoint an independent counsel to investigate Democrats, even though presidents do not, and cannot, appoint independent counsels.

Well, someone from George Soros, Inc. contacted me about being a phony KKK protester but I declined. I’ve never received any money for all the times I’ve served as a false flag protester before. They can’t keep fooling me.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:48:52am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

If Democrats are so powerful we can conspire to bring flippin’ Nazis to a place to make the GOP look bad,

1) Why aren’t we in control of every government position from dogcatcher to President, and
b) What does it say about Republicans that we can control them so easily, Rep. Gohmert?

Louie is my brother-in-law’s representative. He despises Louie.

A shadowy cabal so powerful that its reach goes back decades, employs tens to hundreds of thousands who maintain absolute secrecy, controls resources numbering in the billions of dollars…yet allows itself to lose power and influence for years to. Obviously part of some long-term scheme to lull the patriotic masses into a false security before the FEMA camps open.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:49:09am

re: #170 Sir John Barron

Well, someone from George Soros, Inc. contacted me about being a phony KKK protester but I declined. I’ve never received any money for all the times I’ve served as a false flag protester before. They can’t keep fooling me.

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The Clinton campaign still hasn’t paid me back from the times I praised her.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:49:26am

re: #165 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seeing relatives slobbering all over Franky Graham KKKraKKKer’s full throttle pulpit pimping last night. “God forgave Trump’s sins…” BS…

Tax these pulpit pimps and their tax shelter churches!

Oh, was Graham at the Deplorable rally?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:50:36am

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Oh, was Graham at the Deplorable rally?

You know, I always thought the respect his father got was a bit undeserved but Franklin is even worse.

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I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:52:26am

Don’t listen to the Soros-funded protesters, but listen to the Koch-funded climate deniers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:57:20am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Stop making sense!

¢¢¢¢

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:57:51am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Gohmert even claims there are “witnesses” who saw KKK and Black Lives Matters protesters get off the same buses in Charlottesville, implying they were simply paid actors by Democrats. Gohmert urged Trump to appoint an independent counsel to investigate Democrats, even though presidents do not, and cannot, appoint independent counsels.

It’s 2017 where millions of people are walking around with video cameras on their phones and yet none of this captured on video. Amazing. A-fucking-mazing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:58:12am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

¢¢¢¢

Seriously though. If Soros is that conniving, why haven’t we won a midterm election since 2006.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:58:25am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

It’s 2017 where millions of people are walking around with video cameras on their phones and yet none of this captured on video. Amazing. A-fucking-mazing.

Soros is that sneaky man.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 5:59:37am

re: #175 I fly the Union flag, I like countries that win.

Don’t listen to the Soros-funded protesters, but listen to the Koch-funded climate deniers.

Koch also sponsors NPR. Playing both sides against the middle.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:01:02am

You Soros guys think you got problems? I’m still waiting for my check from the International Zionist Conspiracy.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:01:17am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

It’s 2017 where millions of people are walking around with video cameras on their phones and yet none of this captured on video. Amazing. A-fucking-mazing.

One will turn up, I’m sure, of a black person and a white person getting off THE SAME BUS and this will be PROOF ABSOLUTE of the conspiracy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:02:00am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Soros is that sneaky man.

Another cognitive dissonance from conservatives:

a) George (International Jew) Soros pays protesters all the time to make appearances or serve as so-called crisis actors

2) Liberals are just deadbeats that don’t get jobs.

Funny, if Mr. Soros (or anyone else) is paying you to do something, isn’t that the definition of a job?

Seriously, this “$25 an hour” claim to make conservatives look bad pays a hell of a lot better than vice-mayor of a tiny village. Where do I sign up?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:02:03am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

One will turn up, I’m sure, of a black person and a white person getting off THE SAME BUS and this will be PROOF ABSOLUTE of the conspiracy.

Why, the two may even be friendly with each other.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:02:46am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

We’re only seven months into this. I think that’s the most insane of all. Seven months. Put things in perspective. This point in the Bush administration, 9/11 was still a few weeks away.

seven months in and everybody knows he’s a constant liar and a not insignificant number of people worry he may not be mentally stable

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fern01  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:02:53am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

My Japanese is non-existent. I can find Japan on a map.

Which puts you one up on president*

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:04:08am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Koch also sponsors NPR. Playing both sides against the middle.

The amount the Kochs give to NPR is insignificant compared to the amount they give to buy right-wing politicians and to fuel their network of so-called think tanks.

NPR is just so they can tick a box that says “philanthropists” (and to pressure NPR with the threat of withdrawing their donations).

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:04:17am

re: #183 Anymouse 🌹

Another cognitive dissonance from conservatives:

a) George (International Jew) Soros pays protesters all the time to make appearances or serve as so-called crisis actors

2) Liberals are just deadbeats that don’t get jobs.

Funny, if Mr. Soros (or anyone else) is paying you to do something, isn’t that the definition of a job?

Seriously, this “$25 an hour” claim to make conservatives look bad pays a hell of a lot better than vice-mayor of a tiny village. Where do I sign up?

No shit, for $25 an hour I’d gladly punch a Nazi in the face.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:04:56am

re: #181 Targetpractice

You Soros guys think you got problems? I’m still waiting for my check from the International Zionist Conspiracy.

//

The Comintern always pays on time, but no one wants to convert my DDR Marks in Alabama.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:04:57am

re: #188 Targetpractice

No shit, for $25 an hour I’d gladly punch a Nazi in the face.

Soros better cover sore fists though.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:06:43am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Soros better cover sore fists though.

Not to worry, Soros also offers free healthcare.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:06:54am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

The Comintern always pays on time, but no one wants to convert my DDR Marks in Alabama.

LOL. I’ll bet they’re worth more than my Zimbabwe dollars.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:07:02am

My brother and I had a nice conversation about the national anthem controversies and patriotism. We both agree that part of the sacrifices our troops make is so you do NOT have to stand. This isn’t North Korea where patriotism is state mandated. Really sad to see veteran friends of mine not get this point. We sincerely do thank you for your service but stop acting like patriotism should be state mandated and the people who don’t show it to your satisfaction be shunned and made pariahs. You tell the Colin Kaepernicks of the world to protest quietly and he does that and you still shit on him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:07:30am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

LOL. I’ll bet they’re worth more than my Zimbabwe dollars.

I still have some Bavarian Socialist Republic marks laying around somewhere.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:07:38am

re: #191 Targetpractice

Not to worry, Soros also offers free healthcare.

Hooray!

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:09:42am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. So, Trump’s nonsensical ravings at a rally revealed that he’s who he’s always been. He’s an egotistical know nothing who panders to like minded people.

It’s a one trick pony whose trick fascinates his supporters, but no one else.

Trump went to Arizona to talk about Confederate flags and statues, as though that’s something that they’d know about as Southern heritage. Except that it isn’t. This is heritage common to the “modern” GOP - defending the statues of insurrectionists who lost the war of Southern Insurrection so that they can protect their right to own slaves. The same goes with the Confederate flag that so many right wingers wave around - as though it’s some heritage to be proud of.

That’s a flag of hate and bigotry. More importantly, it’s the flag of the losers of the Civil War (that they started). The same people who bitch about giving kids participation trophies when they lose are the ones complaining loudest that the statues to the losing side of the Civil War might be taken down because of political pressure (when they were erected by pandering white supremacists to keep blacks in their place). That’s why there are Confederate statues erected in the oddest of places - to warn blacks not to go there. It has a chilling effect on minorities who suffered at the hands of white supremacists and bigots who saw their power diminished as a result of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act that helped secure minority voting and civil rights.

Trump is ushering in a wholesale attack on civil and voting rights (among other things), but he’s just the loudest/brashest voice from the GOP that has been assaulting both for decades now.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:10:17am

re: #53 austin_blue

So I’ve got a gray water pipe from the kitchen sink to the sewer line that has broken and a toilet mount screw that has completely rusted out.

Ah, the joys of home ownership!

I’ll be under the house tomorrow doing repairs, But before that, I’ve got to get the Impala to the repair shop because it’s spewing oil like a west Texas blowout. Crankcase seal has failed.

Why does life have to be so expensive?

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

“stuff” demands attention

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:12:07am

re: #51 teleskiguy

Now I know why Shannyn Moore unfollowed me on Twitter. She followed me for years and retweeted and liked scores of my tweets.

I’ve made clear that I despise Bernie.

[Embedded content]Whenever people write “her emails” I think “@SenSanders” because this country is way more masochistic than it is racist. He would have won.

bernie would have won if he got more votes

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:14:29am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

My brother and I had a nice conversation about the national anthem controversies and patriotism. We both agree that part of the sacrifices our troops make is so you do NOT have to stand. This isn’t North Korea where patriotism is state mandated. Really sad to see veteran friends of mine not get this point. We sincerely do thank you for your service but stop acting like patriotism should be state mandated and the people who don’t show it to your satisfaction be shunned and made pariahs. You tell the Colin Kaepernicks of the world to protest quietly and he does that and you still shit on him.

Yup. The national anthem, the flag, and other symbols are not symbols of the military. They are symbols of the nation and all its people.

But a flag or a pledge are just symbols. I am not a big fan of burning flags (even those of other nations with rare exceptions such as Nazi Germany), but if the country can’t abide a burning piece of cloth (regardless of its symbolism), we have bigger problems than burning a flag.

I made that argument in a rebuttal to a letter here in the paper condemning a flag-burning in Iowa and waxing all militaristic and patriotic. Patriotism is how you uphold your nation’s ideals, not making the correct genuflections to the symbols of the nation. Such folk treat patriotism as if it was a religion.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:14:29am

re: #198 dangerman

bernie would have won if he got more votes

Not necessarily. (viz. “Clinton, Hillary R”)

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:14:51am

re: #196 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. So, Trump’s nonsensical ravings at a rally revealed that he’s who he’s always been. He’s an egotistical know nothing who panders to like minded people.

It’s a one trick pony whose trick fascinates his supporters, but no one else.

Trump went to Arizona to talk about Confederate flags and statues, as though that’s something that they’d know about as Southern heritage. Except that it isn’t. This is heritage common to the “modern” GOP - defending the statues of insurrectionists who lost the war of Southern Insurrection so that they can protect their right to own slaves. The same goes with the Confederate flag that so many right wingers wave around - as though it’s some heritage to be proud of.

That’s a flag of hate and bigotry. More importantly, it’s the flag of the losers of the Civil War (that they started). The same people who bitch about giving kids participation trophies when they lose are the ones complaining loudest that the statues to the losing side of the Civil War might be taken down because of political pressure (when they were erected by pandering white supremacists to keep blacks in their place). That’s why there are Confederate statues erected in the oddest of places - to warn blacks not to go there. It has a chilling effect on minorities who suffered at the hands of white supremacists and bigots who saw their power diminished as a result of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act that helped secure minority voting and civil rights.

Trump is ushering in a wholesale attack on civil and voting rights (among other things), but he’s just the loudest/brashest voice from the GOP that has been assaulting both for decades now.

His mob of deplorables must be kept at peak rage levels.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:16:07am

re: #198 dangerman

bernie would have won if he got more votes

Exactly. I’m sorry but the “Bernie would have won” argument is crap. Bernie did not beat Clinton and that’s the only thing that matters. It’s so funny because I can remember being a Kucinich supporter in 2004 and hating when people used the “electability” argument against our candidate but suddenly the far left thinks that’s okay for Bernie. Here’s the thing. Bernie polled better because he was a lesser known entity. The GOP hitbook had not came out against him like it had Clinton. Maybe Sanders performs better than Clinton in some areas but I think it’s also equally even more likely that he greatly underperforms her in other areas. I really hope Sanders is not the Democratic party’s future. Our future is not a man born in 1941, who isn’t even part of our party, and whose state is over 90% white.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:18:00am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. The national anthem, the flag, and other symbols are not symbols of the military. They are symbols of the nation and all its people.

But a flag or a pledge are just symbols. I am not a big fan of burning flags (even those of other nations with rare exceptions such as Nazi Germany), but if the country can’t abide a burning piece of cloth (regardless of its symbolism), we have bigger problems than burning a flag.

I made that argument in a rebuttal to a letter here in the paper condemning a flag-burning in Iowa and waxing all militaristic and patriotic. Patriotism is how you uphold your nation’s ideals, not making the correct genuflections to the symbols of the nation. Such folk treat patriotism as if it was a religion.

Not even burning but kneeling. You get what patriotism is and my brother and I’s grandfather got it too. It’s too bad that there are so many other vets, who are right to be proud of their service and I’d say even right ot say their service is underappreciated but who are IMO dead wrong about the flag. The flag is just the flag. It’s what the flag means and Trump and the alt-right damage that more every aay than someone kneeling during the national anthem.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:18:17am

re: #198 dangerman

bernie would have won if he got more votes

He didn’t win the Democratic Primary; it’s ludicrous to think he would have won the General Election. (Cue “the DNC rigged the primary, including in all the Republican-run states.”)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:20:57am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹

He didn’t win the Democratic Primary; it’s ludicrous to think he would have won the General Election. (Cue “the DNC rigged the primary, including in all the Republican-run states.”)

It’s not even that. It’s that they ignore that the RNC playbook would have been used at Bernie and a lot of Bernie’s mystique would have been gone and the public would know Bernie as that kooky guy who stole his neighbor’s electricity, honeymooned in the USSR, had a weird fantasy novel, etc. TBH a lot of the things they would have used against him I think are pretty tame but if they think the GOP wouldn’t have enjoyed going at the bit against someone who had literally actually vacationed in the USSR when they got away with calling Obama a socialist, you’re delusional. They want to ignore that Sanders had faults too. And honestly it’s a shame that they can’t see that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:22:14am

Be gentle with Bernie’s kids. They want to get to the same place we do, but on the wrong path. Encourage them to be quieter until the day, in some distant election, they come to their fucking senses.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:22:56am

Jeebus one of my distant cousins was posted a Joe the Plumber screed. She’s a nice person but holy shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:23:11am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

I still have some Bavarian Socialist Republic marks laying around somewhere.

Was it from the first one, the one that lasted six days? The one led by Ernst Toller? That was some truly wacky shit.

en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:23:34am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

It’s not even that. It’s that they ignore that the RNC playbook would have been used at Bernie and a lot of Bernie’s mystique would have been gone and the public would know Bernie as that kooky guy who stole his neighbor’s electricity, honeymooned in the USSR, had a weird fantasy novel, etc. TBH a lot of the things they would have used against him I think are pretty tame but if they think the GOP wouldn’t have enjoyed going at the bit against someone who had literally actually vacationed in the USSR when they got away with calling Obama a socialist, you’re delusional. They want to ignore that Sanders had faults too. And honestly it’s a shame that they can’t see that.

Oh, I’m sure they had quite a lot more dirt piled up than just what we know. I imagine Jane would probably have been under FBI investigation for bank fraud far sooner had Bernie won the nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:23:49am

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Be gentle with Bernie’s kids. They want to get to the same place we do, but on the wrong path. Encourage them to be quieter until the day, in some distant election, they come to their fucking senses.

I do try and I do think I’m more sympathetic than most since I subscribe to a lot of Bernie’s message but I will never subscribe to them wanting to make the 2020 a referendum of Bernie and Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:24:05am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Was it from the first one, the one that lasted six days? The one led by Ernst Toller? That was some truly wacky shit.

en.wikipedia.org

I was being a smartass. :)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:24:40am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I was being a smartass. :)

Ah, OK.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:24:51am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

If Democrats are so powerful we can conspire to bring flippin’ Nazis to a place to make the GOP look bad,

1) Why aren’t we in control of every government position from dogcatcher to President, and
b) What does it say about Republicans that we can control them so easily, Rep. Gohmert?

Louie is my brother-in-law’s representative. He despises Louie.

last) what does it say about republicans that they fall for it

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:25:57am

re: #209 Targetpractice

Oh, I’m sure they had quite a lot more dirt piled up than just what we know. I imagine Jane would probably have been under FBI investigation for bank fraud far sooner had Bernie won the nomination.

They just refuse to acknowledge he had weaknesses too. Honestly, I think Bernie’s going to fold in 2020 because he won’t have Clinton to go up against, Clinton’s a good target if you’re trying to sell yourself as an insurgent but if he’s up against people like Warren, Harris, and some of the other names I’ve seen, I think he’s going to struggle. Plus, I think at least one of his opponents will mention some of Bernie’s unsavory side that the Clinton campaign ignored.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:26:30am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I was being a smartass. :)

So was I. Note the rhetorical placement of “fucking”.

Still, they might yet learn.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:26:41am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

Ah, OK.

I do have some Czech coins from my first European trip though. Did you guys adopt the Euro yet? Really want to go back there. Probably doing a short European trip next summer but only to Slovakia.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:26:49am

Trump’s probably got some kind of a deal with these loons:

Ever notice how there’s a token black guy at all these rallies and they’re carrying the same signs and same website?

It’s a conspiracy nutter who happens to be black. Trump’s people think this helps them, so they make sure they give them a prominent spot. Every goddamned rally.

Before he was winning attaboys from prominent members of the GOP, Michael ran with a vicious black-supremacist cult. In the early ’90s, Michael and 15 other members of the Yahweh ben Yahweh cult were charged with conspiring in two murders, and even though his own brother testified that Michael stabbed a man in the eye with a sharp stick, he was let off by a Florida jury. In the decades since, he’s become a novel figure in South Florida, racking up criminal charges but no convictions and running a radio show that features his rants on “Demon-crats.”

The full spectrum of Michael’s political philosophy can be observed on his website gods2.com, which he advertises on his signs at Trump rallies. It includes claims about Obama and Hillary Clinton being in the Illuminati, a video proving “that Hillary is in the KKK,” and more than a dozen personal videos related to an eviction and bankruptcy.

He totally fits the Trump worldview. He checks off every Trump belief:

- conspiracies? Check
- Hillary is Satan/evil? Check
- token black support means all blacks support him? Check.

That’s the kind of people backing Trump. That’s the kind of people Trump’s admin/handlers think appropriate to allow anywhere near a Trump rally, let alone in key seating areas. That speaks volumes to the awfulness of everyone associated with Trump. None of them care that this guy is out there peddling conspiracy crap so long as they get a black guy in a seat of white.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:26:56am

Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid

Enemy okra, terrorist tomatillos, and subversive sunflowers captured!

A small organic farm in Arlington, Texas, was the target of a massive police action last week that included aerial surveillance, a SWAT raid and a 10-hour search.

Members of the local police raiding party had a search warrant for marijuana plants, which they failed to find at the Garden of Eden farm. But farm owners and residents who live on the property told a Dallas-Ft. Worth NBC station that the real reason for the law enforcement exercise appears to have been code enforcement. The police seized “17 blackberry bushes, 15 okra plants, 14 tomatillo plants … native grasses and sunflowers,” after holding residents inside at gunpoint for at least a half-hour, property owner Shellie Smith said in a statement. The raid lasted about 10 hours, she said.

Local authorities had cited the Garden of Eden in recent weeks for code violations, including “grass that was too tall, bushes growing too close to the street, a couch and piano in the yard, chopped wood that was not properly stacked, a piece of siding that was missing from the side of the house, and generally unclean premises,” Smith’s statement said. She said the police didn’t produce a warrant until two hours after the raid began, and officers shielded their name tags so they couldn’t be identified. According to ABC affiliate WFAA, resident Quinn Eaker was the only person arrested — for outstanding traffic violations.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:27:04am

Rick Wilson kicked ass on CNN last night, and he continues to kick ass this morning.

Read past the thread to see him crush wingnuts like bugs. That’s entertainment!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:27:44am

re: #215 Decatur Deb

So was I. Note the rhetorical placement of “fucking”.

Still, they might yet learn.

Oh I meant about the Bavarian coinage. I think they might too. They’re just frustrating because they’re spending this time arguing about Bernie, when we should be working on how we’re going to flip NJ and retain VA’s governorship and increase the delegates in those state legislatuers.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:28:37am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

I do have some Czech coins from my first European trip though. Did you guys adopt the Euro yet? Really want to go back there. Probably doing a short European trip next summer but only to Slovakia.

Not yet, and frankly, it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen anytime soon. Give it about another decade or so.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:28:49am

re: #196 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. So, Trump’s nonsensical ravings at a rally revealed that he’s who he’s always been. ….

shorter: trump’s an asshole

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:29:04am

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:29:25am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

Not yet, and frankly, it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen anytime soon. Give it about another decade or so.

Ah okay. Your Czech friends always have had a stubborn independent streak. Not always a bad thing, that whole Prague Spring thing and being comparatively socially liberal to much of the former Eastern Bloc.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:29:59am

re: #217 lawhawk

Trump’s probably got some kind of a deal with these loons:

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He totally fits the Trump worldview. He checks off every Trump belief:

- conspiracies? Check
- Hillary is Satan/evil? Check
- token black support means all blacks support him? Check.

That’s the kind of people backing Trump. That’s the kind of people Trump’s admin/handlers think appropriate to allow anywhere near a Trump rally, let alone in key seating areas. That speaks volumes to the awfulness of everyone associated with Trump. None of them care that this guy is out there peddling conspiracy crap so long as they get a black guy in a seat of white.

He has the best supporters, the best supporters!

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:31:08am

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Not necessarily. (viz. “Clinton, Hillary R”)

you’re right of course.
i was implying the primary (superdelegates notwithstanding)

“he woulda won if he won”

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:32:38am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:32:54am

re: #226 dangerman

you’re right of course.
i was implying the primary (superdelegates notwithstanding)

“he woulda won if he won”

Just snarking. I’ve been 4 days without.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:37:15am

Garland, also rocking hard this morning.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:42:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:43:38am

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

Should be minutes, not days.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:44:06am

re: #230 lawhawk

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And supported most of his agenda. Nice try Marco but the fake piety bullshit may work for some people but it doesn’t work for most of us.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:45:29am

re: #218 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

A defendant ought to challenge police covering up their names on grounds of not knowing who your accusers are.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:45:54am

re: #230 lawhawk

I wonder if he knows that scripture is in reference to being drunk?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:46:36am

More info about the switch of Asian American announcer Robert Lee on ESPN.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:47:18am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

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Thanks for posting that tweet about Keith Moon ‘mouse.

It’s nice to be reminded about him. I’m a drummer and always appreciated his attacking, non-traditional style.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:47:40am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

They just refuse to acknowledge he had weaknesses too. Honestly, I think Bernie’s going to fold in 2020 because he won’t have Clinton to go up against, Clinton’s a good target if you’re trying to sell yourself as an insurgent but if he’s up against people like Warren, Harris, and some of the other names I’ve seen, I think he’s going to struggle. Plus, I think at least one of his opponents will mention some of Bernie’s unsavory side that the Clinton campaign ignored.

Sanders might have to go up against a Democratic opponent in Vermont to keep his Senate seat.

While Mr. Sanders is enjoying the attention of his hard-core supporters now, I really don’t see him taking a shot at the next Presidential election.

Although I supported Sanders initially in the primaries, I went all-in on Mrs. Clinton later in the primary campaign. (Interestingly, during that time, my wife and I went to Saskatchewan. At the time we had a Sanders sticker on our car, and many people would come up to us to comment favourably about that.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:49:19am

re: #235 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

More info about the switch of Asian American announcer Robert Lee on ESPN.

[Embedded content]

Some people just have to make everything about their pathetic whinefest against modernity. I can see why ESPN and Lee made the decision they did.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:51:41am

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

Sanders might have to go up against a Democratic opponent in Vermont to keep his Senate seat.

While Mr. Sanders is enjoying the attention of his hard-core supporters now, I really don’t see him taking a shot at the next Presidential election.

Although I supported Sanders initially in the primaries, I went all-in on Mrs. Clinton later in the primary campaign. (Interestingly, during that time, my wife and I went to Saskatchewan. At the time we had a Sanders sticker on our car, and many people would come up to us to comment favourably about that.)

I really hope that’s not necessary but I really think Sanders does need a gentle reminder that he’s not a Democrat and that if he wants to contribute to shaping where the party stands on issues, he needs to join or stop trying to have it both ways. I really appreciate what you did after Sanders lost. I think some of the Sanders supporters I know could ahve taken the same lesson. I recently supported two primary candidates that lost but I’m all in with their former opponents’ general election campaigns.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:52:16am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:53:23am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Some people just have to make everything about their pathetic whinefest against modernity. I can see why ESPN and Lee made the decision they did.

And I can understand Mr. Lee not wishing to be subjected to a national deluge of stupid jokes about his name, or outrage at both him and his employer for perceived insensitivity about going to Charlottesville - never mind that he is not related to the CSA general in question.

I suppose I am fortunate that my name is entirely obscure.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:53:58am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Your former party’s base, Joe.

Former? I ain’t buying it. It is a calculated move for Joke’s TV career. When it comes down to voting, he will be a Republican.

Just like many of the other “new” independents.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:55:13am
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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:56:33am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

I really don’t think the Democrats need to make race an issue—the GOP is doing well on their own with that.

(Well, we do, but in the sense we care to see everyone succeed with real opportunity, and to do that we need good voter turnout.)

Campaign idea:

While Republicans are out supporting statues, Democrats are supporting real live people like you.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:57:14am

re: #65 alloutofcrazyhere

It’s always a good indicator of a recession when people start selling their toys.

As for me, I’ll stick with computers. At least they are cheaper. I am hoping that VR/AR catches on in a big way though. It looks like a lot of fun.

It is, and prices recently dropped.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:58:58am

re: #243 FormerDirtDart

This again? Drump needs a new gimmick.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 6:59:56am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

And I can understand Mr. Lee not wishing to be subjected to a national deluge of stupid jokes about his name, or outrage at both him and his employer for perceived insensitivity about going to Charlottesville - never mind that he is not related to the CSA general in question.

I suppose I am fortunate that my name is entirely obscure.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:00:43am

re: #242 ObserverArt

Former? I ain’t buying it. It is a calculated move for Joke’s TV career. When it comes down to voting, he will be a Republican.

Just like many of the other “new” independents.

Yeah I don’t disagree with you really. Anyhow, my point is that it was the same party’s base that elected him and that he’s voted for numerous times. We’re in agreement.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:01:12am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I really hope that’s not necessary but I really think Sanders does need a gentle reminder that he’s not a Democrat and that if he wants to contribute to shaping where the party stands on issues, he needs to join or stop trying to have it both ways. I really appreciate what you did after Sanders lost. I think some of the Sanders supporters I know could ahve taken the same lesson. I recently supported two primary candidates that lost but I’m all in with their former opponents’ general election campaigns.

Well, there was the issue of the PUMAs after the 2008 primary concluded as well. That was sort of a preview of the purity pony wing. The difference there was Mrs. Clinton threw her full support behind Mr. Obama.

When Mr. Sanders first urged his supporters to back Mrs. Clinton (I was already on-board with her by then), I (mistakenly) thought that party unity would be better than 2008.

After Mr. Sanders gave that support though, he started sniping from the sidelines. That didn’t help. I do believe that the die-hard Sandernistas now are a loud and vocal minority, amplified by the Internet.

It is good that Mr. Sanders broadly supports Democratic issues in the Senate, though you couldn’t tell that by his most strident supporters.

My own area is far more diverse than Vermont. Considering how polarising Mr. Trump is, perhaps combined with our very popular Jane Kleeb running, that might be enough to knock off Adrian Smith in the House race—that would be one heck of a shock to the GOP.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:02:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:02:55am

re: #244 ObserverArt

Campaign idea:

While Republicans are out supporting statues, Democrats are supporting real live people like you.

Thanks, though I doubt I could be elected to anything but local offices. That said, you need troops as well as generals, and I don’t mind being a trooper.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:03:59am

re: #249 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there was the issue of the PUMAs after the 2008 primary concluded as well. That was sort of a preview of the purity pony wing. The difference there was Mrs. Clinton threw her full support behind Mr. Obama.

When Mr. Sanders first urged his supporters to back Mrs. Clinton (I was already on-board with her by then), I (mistakenly) thought that party unity would be better than 2008.

After Mr. Sanders gave that support though, he started sniping from the sidelines. That didn’t help. I do believe that the die-hard Sandernistas now are a loud and vocal minority, amplified by the Internet.

It is good that Mr. Sanders broadly supports Democratic issues in the Senate, though you couldn’t tell that by his most strident supporters.

My own area is far more diverse than Vermont. Considering how polarising Mr. Trump is, perhaps combined with our very popular Jane Kleeb running, that might be enough to knock off Adrian Smith in the House race—that would be one heck of a shock to the GOP.

Exactly, and that’s why I came to respect Hillary. I didn’t like to be honest with you how she ran in 2008. But she got all her supporters on board with Obama and did everything to get him elected. I don’t personally feel that Sanders did the same for Clinton and it’s too bad. I appreciate his support of Democratic issues. I just feel if he wants to have a say in where the party goes as a party, he needs to join it instead of snipping from the sidelines as you say. And I hope Jane wins. It’d be a nice upset to have.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:05:14am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

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I cannot believe this clown is our president.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:07:00am

LOL, a notice over at the Immoral Minority blog:

Don’t feed the trolls!
It just goes directly to their thighs.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:11:39am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

Trump was an unserious candidate and is now a profoundly unserious president. I sense Trump-fatigue may finally give this guy a much deserved kick in the asteroids.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:12:11am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, a notice over at the Immoral Minority blog:

Are we the immoral minority or are they?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:12:28am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

Trump was an unserious candidate and is now a profoundly unserious president. I sense Trump-fatigue may finally give this guy a much deserved kick in the asteroids.

Hopefully, it results in a landslide that takes out a lot of his fellow Republicans too.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:14:02am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

That’s when he’s dropping a deuce, that’s why. He takes the phone to the can, gets on Twitter and ragetweets and shits simultaneously.

Multitasking!! /s

*headdesk*

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:15:09am

re: #256 Sir John Barron

Are we the immoral minority or are they?

Each in our own small way.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:15:48am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

That’s when he’s dropping a deuce, that’s why. He takes the phone to the can, gets on Twitter and ragetweets and shits simultaneously.

Multitasking!! /s

*headdesk*

Hopefully one day he accidentally drops his phone in the toilet.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:16:13am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Hopefully one day he accidentally drops his phone in the toilet.

Like that’s going to stop him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:16:59am

re: #261 Belafon

Like that’s going to stop him.

True.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:17:16am

Wonder if there’s anyway to reset his password. That would be funny.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:19:35am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

That’s when he’s dropping a deuce, that’s why. He takes the phone to the can, gets on Twitter and ragetweets and shits simultaneously.

Multitasking!! /s

*headdesk*

How can anyone tell the difference?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:21:33am

Beltway Republicans Respond to Bannon’s Return to Breitbart with a Collective Yawn (Goes to Yahoo News)

A few things I noted in this article:

The ousted senior White House adviser may be back guiding Breitbart’s right-wing reactionary bomb-throwing, but he’s likely to find himself in the same position that left-wing sites like Daily Kos and Huffington Post occupied when Barack Obama became president in 2009, several Republicans told Yahoo News.

“These kinds of oppositional websites are much more potent when the movement they represent is not in the White House,” said one Republican close to House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisc. “Kos became irrelevant and HuffPo basically transformed itself into a mainstream news site. The reality was that Obama had a bigger megaphone than those sites. And Trump as president has a bigger megaphone and a more loyal following than Breitbart.

“I haven’t heard any congressional Republican leaders express concern about Bannon going back to Breitbart. He’s a guy with a website. How much of a problem can a guy with a website actually be? He was much more of a problem when he had daily, hourly, access to the Oval Office,” the Ryan ally said.

I don’t think Daily Kos is irrelevant (that sounds like the charge levelled at our esteemed host here). Of course President Obama had “a bigger megaphone” than those sites: He was the President.

Bannon’s a guy with a Website. A Website backed by the Mercers and dedicated to the proposition that they despise mainstream Republicans. As for Breitbart’s loyal following, I’m willing to bet they are more loyal than a lot of Trump’s supporters. (I’ve seen some wavering here.) How much of a problem can a guy with a Website be? Fine, unnamed GOP person. Underestimating the enemy within is always a good strategy.

Democrats know Breitbart doesn’t much care for us, so we’re under no illusion Mr. Bannon would treat us fairly. But go ahead, GOP, ignore Mr. Bannon and his influence on your core voters. That should serve you us well.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:23:36am

re: #264 GlutenFreeJesus

How can anyone tell the difference?

Good point.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:23:56am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

Beltway Republicans Respond to Bannon’s Return to Breitbart with a Collective Yawn (Goes to Yahoo News)

A few things I noted in this article:

I don’t think Daily Kos is irrelevant (that sounds like the charge levelled at our esteemed host here). Of course President Obama had “a bigger megaphone” than those sites: He was the President.

Bannon’s a guy with a Website. A Website backed by the Mercers and dedicated to the proposition that they despise mainstream Republicans. As for Breitbart’s loyal following, I’m willing to bet they are more loyal than a lot of Trump’s supporters. (I’ve seen some wavering here.) How much of a problem can a guy with a Website be? Fine, unnamed GOP person. Underestimating the enemy within is always a good strategy.

Democrats know Breitbart doesn’t much care for us, so we’re under no illusion Mr. Bannon would treat us fairly. But go ahead, GOP, ignore Mr. Bannon and his influence on your core voters. That should serve you us well.

I almost want to say I’d be amused seeing Ryan eaten up by a Breitbart supported candidate in a primary but as much as I despise the little twerp, that person would be worse than Ryan.Ryan and the GOP establishment’s attitude is exactly why we have Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:34:06am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:35:46am

Donald Trump Goes to Phoenix Yells Whatever Crazy Shit Comes to Mind (Goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

We honestly aren’t sure whether Donald Trump was more unhinged than usual at his rally in Phoenix Tuesday night, or if we simply hadn’t seen him turn the crazy up to Eleven like that since the 2016 campaign. Tuesday’s appearance was an actual campaign rally, paid for by Trump’s 2020 campaign committee. And Donald Trump was presidential as fuck, all the way through explaining that reporters make everything up, accusing the media of not accurately reporting his comments on Charlottesville while he actually misquoted himself, pledging to pardon former sheriff Joe Arpaio, and hinting he might shut down the government if the U.S. Congress doesn’t appropriate the money to build a border wall that he’d promised last year Mexico would pay for. While he was at it, he told the crowd the Secret Service had assured him only a few people were outside the convention center protesting, which was accurate enough if you call thousands “a few.”

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:36:40am

I have to go to the dentist later

you?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:37:44am

re: #270 Birth Control Works

I have to go to the dentist later

you?

I woke up with a toothache too so I’m also waiting for the dentist’s office to open…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:38:47am

I just saw clips of Fartface’s shtick last night and for some reason it gives me flashbacks to high school when we were forced to watch this Sonny Bono film about Marijuana…

Marijuana Educational Film with Sonny Bono

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:38:56am

re: #271 Joe Bacon 🌹

I woke up with a toothache too so I’m also waiting for the dentist’s office to open…

sorry

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:45:43am

re: #270 Birth Control Works

I have to go to the dentist later

you?

Same actually.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:45:53am

lolol so here’s a FB convo I had that just went like this:

Me: Deus Vult? You’re trying so hard to be the next Anders Breivik, aren’t you?
Him: If by that you mean I believe that Western culture has the right to exist in the West, then yes. But considering that for every one western terrorist, there are thousands of middle eastern terrorists, I’m guessing you are against western culture and Christians in general.
Me: no, im just against right wing douchebags like you who jerk off to anders breivik and the ilk
Me: dont you got a soft spot for him? at least dont be a pussy and admit it
Me: ironic when you look like a middle easterner and here you are thinking you are part of the white majority lololol
Me: what is “western culture”? the right to bear arms one of them? hahahaha

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:46:02am

re: #270 Birth Control Works

I have to go to the dentist later

you?

re: #271 Joe Bacon 🌹

I woke up with a toothache too so I’m also waiting for the dentist’s office to open…

I’m sorry for the two of you. There is little that seems to exceed the exquisite pain of a toothache—I wouldn’t trade my hand pain for one and that’s saying a lot considering how many sensory nerves are in your fingers and palms.

Toothaches are a first-class example of intelligent design being a bunch of crap. What the heck do you need such sensitive nerves in a tooth for? Prior to dentistry, there wasn’t a whole lot you could do about it except moan.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:46:03am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Same actually.

wierd

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:47:48am

re: #278 Birth Control Works

wierd

Yeah. Not looking forward to it at all.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:48:52am

re: #278 Birth Control Works

wierd

Also weird. :)

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:49:28am

re: #280 Belafon

Also weird. :)

on my first cuppa

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:50:03am

One thing is extremely clear about Trump.

He could go out on 5th Avenue and say anything and his base will still support him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:50:19am

Trump supporters are morons. The GOP built this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:50:37am

I’m off to bed … but on my way out I’ll leave you with this:

Donald Trump declared Aug 20-26 National Employer Support of the Guard and Reserves Week
whitehouse.gov

So far I haven’t heard diddly about this from Trump other than reading it on the White House Website. So far it seems to be going as well as Infrastructure Week.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:51:47am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:51:57am

re: #283 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Trump supporters are morons. The GOP built this.

Considering he actually understood scripture and likes to surf, yeah I think it’s pretty believable. And yes the GOP did build this and then they nominated King Birther in Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:53:05am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart

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That assumes everything else would have stayed the same which is a fallacy. Get over Bernie already.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:53:46am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:53:51am

re: #282 ObserverArt

One thing is extremely clear about Trump.

He could go out on 5th Avenue and say anything and his base will still support him.

They’ve proven that anything he does is acceptable to them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:54:25am

re: #288 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Well you got your ass used. Congratulations.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:57:43am

re: #288 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:58:32am

Oh lordy, this buffoon:

Him: Because you’re not listening. There are tons of us. Every Spanish speaking country has a city or town named Santiago matamoros. That means st. James the moor killer.
Him: You’re okay with radical islamo fascists? Deus Vult has nothing to do with white nationalism. It’s Christian and western unity.
Him: Time for the 10th.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 7:59:05am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Well you got your ass used. Congratulations.

Why is that woman on Twitter significant other than showing how easy it was for a conman and grifter to exploit her religious beliefs, despite his holding those religious beliefs in contempt himself? (Thrice married, exploits workers and contractors, runs casinos [into the ground], exploits women, lies about what he lied about … to complete the set of broken X Commandments he still needs to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. He’s pretty much broken the other nine.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:01:11am

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹

Why is that woman on Twitter significant other than showing how easy it was for a conman and grifter to exploit her religious beliefs, despite his holding those religious beliefs in contempt himself? (Thrice married, exploits workers and contractors, runs casinos [into the ground], exploits women, lies about what he lied about … to complete the set of broken X Commandments he still needs to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. He’s pretty much broken the other nine.)

…but Franky Graham KKKraKKKer said Gawd forgave Trump…unlike that evil black muslim who Satan put in…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:02:22am

re: #283 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Trish D @PatriciaDameron
Replying to @TahootyHoot and 2 others
Are you saying Obama was a devout Christian from Hawaii? Really? Really?
Follow
Jeff Furlington @FurlingtonJeff
That is a true statement, but if you’re part of the radicalized, fantasy-prone, far-right it will seem strange.
9:48 AM - Aug 23, 2017
1 1 Reply Retweets likes

Trump supporters are morons. The GOP built this.

A Republican non-Trumper friend (voted for Gary Johnson) supported part of Trish D’s skepticism. She always believed that Obama was an atheist who pretended to be Christian, because politics (and maybe family). She wasn’t a fan of Obama but his religion or lack thereof was of no concern to her.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:02:55am

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹

Why is that woman on Twitter significant other than showing how easy it was for a conman and grifter to exploit her religious beliefs, despite his holding those religious beliefs in contempt himself? (Thrice married, exploits workers and contractors, runs casinos [into the ground], exploits women, lies about what he lied about … to complete the set of broken X Commandments he still needs to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. He’s pretty much broken the other nine.)

You answered your own question.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:03:45am

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹

Why is that woman on Twitter significant other than showing how easy it was for a conman and grifter to exploit her religious beliefs, despite his holding those religious beliefs in contempt himself? (Thrice married, exploits workers and contractors, runs casinos [into the ground], exploits women, lies about what he lied about … to complete the set of broken X Commandments he still needs to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. He’s pretty much broken the other nine.)

Well at least he honored his father and mother.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:03:48am

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

A Republican non-Trumper friend (voted for Gary Johnson) supported part of Trish D’s skepticism. She always believed that Obama was an atheist who pretended to be Christian, because politics (and maybe family). She wasn’t a fan of Obama but his religion or lack thereof was of no concern to her.

I’d hope that was the case, but he’s probably religious.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:06:30am

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

A Republican non-Trumper friend (voted for Gary Johnson) supported part of Trish D’s skepticism. She always believed that Obama was an atheist who pretended to be Christian, because politics (and maybe family). She wasn’t a fan of Obama but his religion or lack thereof was of no concern to her.

If he was, he wouldn’t be unique. Personally I believe the biggest fakes are the ones who make the biggest show of their religious beliefs.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:06:36am

This is a unique (literally) perspective on the eclipse. These kids did the math, and went to the one spot in the country the Sun would be eclipsed by the Moon and transited by the ISS. Infectious nerdjoy.

Space Station Transiting 2017 ECLIPSE, My Brain Stopped Working - Smarter Every Day 175

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:07:15am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart

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That’s what I love, this idea that a Bernie who won the nomination would have made it to November intact and able to bring in all the votes that Hillary won and then enough atop those to beat Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:08:37am

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

A Republican non-Trumper friend (voted for Gary Johnson) supported part of Trish D’s skepticism. She always believed that Obama was an atheist who pretended to be Christian, because politics (and maybe family). She wasn’t a fan of Obama but his religion or lack thereof was of no concern to her.

I’m an atheist. I think I can suss out who is a Christian when I hear one. The problem here seems to be wingnuts don’t see Obama as a Christian, they see him as black.

Since African-Americans are a very devout Christian segment of the populace, they have to rationalise him being other than Christian. The same goes for Clinton, also a devout Christian.

(An alternative might also be they both comport themselves more closely to conservative voters’ idea of what a devout Christian is, so they can only resolve the difference by lying about Obama and Clinton.)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:10:12am

re: #300 Decatur Deb

This is a unique (literally) perspective on the eclipse. These kids did the math, and went to the one spot in the country the Sun would be eclipsed by the Moon and transited by the ISS. Infectious nerdjoy.

Someone put this picture up as an ISS photobomb of the eclipse. I laughed.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:14:13am

In Kentucky:

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:17:11am

re: #245 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It is, and prices recently dropped.

Yes, I have seen that too. Although, I usually don’t buy 1st generation of any gadget, car, etc. So, I’ll wait until the successors of the Oculus/Vive show up.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:18:24am

I confronted a Bro with that reality back last year, about what was Bernie going to do to win over Hillary supporters if he won the nomination or (as they wanted towards the end) was granted it at the convention. He didn’t hesitate to assert to me that Hillary supporters would vote for Bernie because they’d have no other choice. The hypocrisy of his argument never seemed to occur to him.

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I cannot.  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:21:05am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:21:26am

re: #302 Anymouse 🌹

I’m an atheist. I think I can suss out who is a Christian when I hear one. The problem here seems to be wingnuts don’t see Obama as a Christian, they see him as black.

Since African-Americans are a very devout Christian segment of the populace, they have to rationalise him being other than Christian. The same goes for Clinton, also a devout Christian.

(An alternative might also be they both comport themselves more closely to conservative voters’ idea of what a devout Christian is, so they can only resolve the difference by lying about Obama and Clinton.)

Obama was not raised in a traditional African American family. He was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia, surrounded by other ethnicities and religions. He had a truly cosmopolitan background and certainly was not raised in a religious home.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:22:27am

re: #306 Targetpractice

I confronted a Bro with that reality back last year, about what was Bernie going to do to win over Hillary supporters if he won the nomination or (as they wanted towards the end) was granted it at the convention. He didn’t hesitate to assert to me that Hillary supporters would vote for Bernie because they’d have no other choice. The hypocrisy of his argument never seemed to occur to him.

They’re idiots. In a different way than Trumpers but idiots.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:22:59am

re: #307 I cannot.

Early in the day to award the Tweeter Prize.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:24:03am

re: #305 alloutofcrazyhere

Yes, I have seen that too. Although, I usually don’t buy 1st generation of any gadget, car, etc. So, I’ll wait until the successors of the Oculus/Vive show up.

It’ll be a long wait for a 2nd gen Vive or Rift, but there is an HMD from LG coming.
A wireless add-on for the Vive is supposed to come out Sept 15th. VR will be much better without a cord to step on.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:24:37am

If you get a chance, please report @KrunkPostys. Another vile Nazi. Wash your hands after you do.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:25:08am

re: #306 Targetpractice

I confronted a Bro with that reality back last year, about what was Bernie going to do to win over Hillary supporters if he won the nomination or (as they wanted towards the end) was granted it at the convention. He didn’t hesitate to assert to me that Hillary supporters would vote for Bernie because they’d have no other choice. The hypocrisy of his argument never seemed to occur to him.

Most of them still believe this: that he would have received all her votes + his votes and that would make him President. Of course, she would have been President if they had supported her. They are as deluded as the Trumpsters. There are many Hillary voters who would not have supported him, even if the GOP didn’t run a vicious campaign against him.

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I cannot.  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:25:50am

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

Also, the whole Jeremiah Wright “Goddamn America”, which is EXACTLY LIKE WHAT FALWELL, BAKKER, AND THOSE OTHER ASSHOLES SAY, EVERYTIME ANY BAD THING HAPPENS. Except the black guy is talking about bad shit that we’ve done as a reason to damn America, while the white dudes are talking about GOOD stuff that we’ve done as the reason we deserve damnation…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:26:39am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

If you get a chance, please report @KrunkPostys. Another vile Nazi. Wash your hands after you do.

I wish I hadn’t clicked that at work, but I did, and they’re reported.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:27:42am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

If you get a chance, please report @KrunkPostys. Another vile Nazi. Wash your hands after you do.

Reported it to Twitter.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:29:43am

re: #315 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I wish I hadn’t clicked that at work, but I did, and they’re reported.

Yeah, that is some pretty vile stuff there.

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reported it to Twitter.

Thanks

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:31:00am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

If you get a chance, please report @KrunkPostys. Another vile Nazi. Wash your hands after you do.

done

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I cannot.  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:31:25am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Gah that was disgusting. Time for my shower…anyone seen the bleach and steel wool?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:31:49am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

If you get a chance, please report @KrunkPostys. Another vile Nazi. Wash your hands after you do.

Done.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:31:58am

re: #319 I cannot.

Gah that was disgusting. Time for my shower…anyone seen the bleach and steel wool?

you’ll need lye soap

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:32:43am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

Reported and blocked.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:33:09am
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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:33:41am

re: #311 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A wireless add-on for the Vive is supposed to come out Sept 15th.

Yep, I saw that. Here’s hoping it’s good.

I am glad that Microsoft is embracing VR/AR as well. It would make sense since they have their HoloLens device.

This past spring’s “Creator’s Update” set some very early groundwork, and the “Fall Creator’s Update” will do a little more towards establishing some sort of standard for VR/AR for Windows 10. Although, before any of that becomes useful to end-users there will have to be many more updates down the road. So far, this only seems useful to developers.

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mmmirele  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:33:50am

re: #227 lawhawk

We didn’t discuss emoluments in law school at all back in the 1980s. I think the pardon power would have been mentioned in passing. It’s tough to discuss either of those topics because there is either little or no case law on the subjects.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:35:17am

re: #323 electrotek

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So Trump literally had to be convinced with skirts and wow I had no idea female literacy was that low. Not surprised tho.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:37:03am

re: #325 mmmirele

Remembering my own con law experience, we had little to no discussion of emoluments at all, and impeachment was discussed in passing. Those are considered historical oddities but now take on new significance since Trump is running roughshod over the Constitution in ways large and small.

Not only does Trump ignore the Emoluments Clause, but he’s driving a stake through the 1A every time he attacks the media and seeks to deny them access and he’s pushing judges who’ll undermine the 13, 14, and 15th Amendments while giving expansive reading to the 2A.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:39:53am

re: #324 alloutofcrazyhere

Yep, I saw that. Here’s hoping it’s good.

People who’ve imported it from China are happy with it, but it does not currently support the microphone, so you need a BT mic to play co-op games. I hope that changes for the American release.

I am glad that Microsoft is embracing VR/AR as well. It would make sense since they have their HoloLens device.

Hololens looked amazing until they admitted to the small FOV. Something like it where your whole FOV is covered will be a must-have product.

This past spring’s “Creator’s Update” set some very early groundwork, and the “Fall Creator’s Update” will do a little more towards establishing some sort of standard for VR/AR for Windows 10. Although, before any of that becomes useful to end-users there will have to be many more updates down the road. So far, this only seems useful to developers.

Developers do need to come first to create the software to sell the platform to consumers. We already have a standard for VR. I expect MS will have a different one, like DirectX vs OpenGL.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:40:47am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

So Trump literally had to be convinced with skirts and wow I had no idea female literacy was that low. Not surprised tho.

Iran’s literacy rate hovered around 30% in 1970 as well.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:41:31am

re: #329 electrotek

Iran’s literacy rate hovered around 30% in 1970 as well.

Doesn’t surprise me either.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:41:35am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

If you get a chance, please report @KrunkPostys. Another vile Nazi. Wash your hands after you do.

Done

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:41:53am

re: #304 Belafon

In Kentucky:

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Lived just across the Bullitt Cty line. The Black church near us was burned out more than once.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:43:02am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t surprise me either.

I hate to admit this, but the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan was actually beneficial for women in the country, and did a better job liberating women than the coalition occupation has accomplished.

Same thing with South Vietnam when it was under Marxist control from 1977-1990.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:43:36am

re: #300 Decatur Deb

This is a unique (literally) perspective on the eclipse. These kids did the math, and went to the one spot in the country the Sun would be eclipsed by the Moon and transited by the ISS. Infectious nerdjoy.

[Embedded content]

Kids these days … /s

I wish I’d had the opportunity to go to college (particularly since the VA testing me for post-military training recommended physics, mathematics, or chemistry, then denied my benefits when they declared me “unemployable” - [/whine]). I’ll just have to plod along with my uneducated brain.

(That’s what I’ll do if I win the lotto: Go to college.)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:46:40am

re: #334 Anymouse 🌹

Kids these days … /s

I wish I’d had the opportunity to go to college (particularly since the VA testing me for post-military training recommended physics, mathematics, or chemistry, then denied my benefits when they declared me “unemployable” - [/whine]). I’ll just have to plod along with my uneducated brain.

(That’s what I’ll do if I win the lotto: Go to college.)

Note how the one outlined in the comments is supporting himself—Internet dependant freelance technical photography. He might have made up his own path, requiring more imagination (and courage) than education.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:47:43am

re: #333 electrotek

I hate to admit this, but the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan was actually beneficial for women in the country, and did a better job liberating women than the coalition occupation has accomplished.

Same thing with South Vietnam when it was under Marxist control from 1977-1990.

Doesn’t surprise me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:48:42am

And while I’m no fan at all of the PRC. Foot binding of women was pretty much effectively banned by the PRC regime.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:49:31am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t surprise me.

But that doesn’t change the fact that the Soviet military did commit widespread rape of Afghan women either.

If it were up to me, I’d rather have no occupation of the country.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:50:24am

re: #328 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I expect MS will have a different one, like DirectX vs OpenGL.

With Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, perhaps they won’t be as hostile towards a more open standard than they have been as a company in the past.

The Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) is an interesting piece of technology. Although, I think they did that more out of necessity than anything.

Since Windows machines control the gaming market, I am not sure how much they are willing to play nice with other operating systems.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:53:25am

re: #338 electrotek

But that doesn’t change the fact that the Soviet military did commit widespread rape of Afghan women either.

If it were up to me, I’d rather have no occupation of the country.

Oh of course. It’s just yeah a lot of things are nuanced as you get at.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:53:30am

As part of today’s thought / question, first here is my short evolution on trump:

1 - last year - pu**ygate - He’s a pig. You support a pig, you’re a pig.
2 - last week - Charlottsvillegate - He’s a racist. You support a racist, you’re a racist
3 - last 2 nights - He’s a liar. (yes, i’ve always known this. and it’s reaching fever pitch)

For trump supporters:

- Forget the 1000+ things he’s said that are more or less demonstrably false.

- Forget that there’s a tweet for every day / occasion. That they can be put side by side and document outright lying or to be generous never ending 180 flip flops or just mere hypocrisy

— Stick with this: He is lying to you daily. To your face. About things that aren’t even that important. That, as he is saying them on camera, in split screen real life are shown to be lies.

Now ask yourselves this:
Why does he feel he has to lie to you like that?
Why does he think he can get away with it?
Why are you letting him?

If you don’t know, don’t care, or worst of all, don’t understand how he is actually manipulating you, then sadly, you deserve every hurt that he is laying on you.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:54:29am

re: #341 dangerman

As part of today’s thought / question, first here is my short evolution on trump:

1 - last year - pu**ygate - He’s a pig. You support a pig, you’re a pig.
2 - last week - Charlottsvillegate - He’s a racist. You support a racist, you’re a racist
3 - last 2 nights - He’s a liar. (yes, i’ve always known this. and it’s reaching fever pitch)

For trump supporters:

- Forget the 1000+ things he’s said that are more or less demonstrably false.

- Forget that there’s a tweet for every day / occasion. That they can be put side by side and document outright lying or to be generous never ending 180 flip flops or just mere hypocrisy

— Stick with this: He is lying to you daily. To your face. About things that aren’t even that important. That, as he is saying them on camera, in split screen real life are shown to be lies.

Now ask yourselves this:
Why does he feel he has to lie to you like that?
Why does he think he can get away with it?
Why are you letting him?

If you don’t know, don’t care, or worst of all, don’t understand how he is actually manipulating you, then sadly, you deserve every hurt that he is laying on you.

That’s what I don’t get. He lies to them the most and they worship him.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:55:03am

You guys remember the DOJ warrant for the data on all of us that visited a particular anti Trump site? Withdrwn. But get this

The government, in the court document, said it did not realize that its original warrant, (PDF) which is part of a federal grand jury investigation into Inauguration Day rioting, was so grand in scope.

arstechnica.com
Hahaha tell me another one.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:55:06am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

That’s what I don’t get. He lies to them the most and they worship him.

Republican media taught them to want to be lied to.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:55:39am

re: #344 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Republican media taught them to want to be lied to.

Yep years of FNC and Limbaugh propaganda has worked.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:57:21am

re: #333 electrotek

I hate to admit this, but the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan was actually beneficial for women in the country, and did a better job liberating women than the coalition occupation has accomplished.

Same thing with South Vietnam when it was under Marxist control from 1977-1990.

Communism/Collectivism is good for women. That is why the Whackos are against Feminism, they see it as part and parcel of collectivism.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:58:37am

re: #338 electrotek

But that doesn’t change the fact that the Soviet military did commit widespread rape of Afghan women either.

If it were up to me, I’d rather have no occupation of the country.

Such rape is now considered a War Crime by the UN.

Not that it matters …

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:59:29am

re: #344 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Republican media taught them to want to be lied to.

They want the myth.

Consequences are not their concern.

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Jay C  Aug 23, 2017 • 8:59:37am

re: #341 dangerman

If you don’t know, don’t care, or worst of all, don’t understand how he is actually manipulating you, then sadly, you deserve every hurt that he is laying on you.

That’s the core of the problem: as Trump loves to hear (only) praise from his audiences, his hardcore base only hears the praise he dumps on them. And that mainly to validate their prejudices. And that the “hurt” he lays on is only perceived as being laid on their “enemies”, i.e. anyone who disagrees with them politically or on social issues: OR: as in most personality-cult “movements”, anyone who doesn’t reflexively adore The Leader*

* as usual, better in the original German

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:03:09am

re: #334 Anymouse 🌹

Kids these days … /s

I wish I’d had the opportunity to go to college (particularly since the VA testing me for post-military training recommended physics, mathematics, or chemistry, then denied my benefits when they declared me “unemployable” - [/whine]). I’ll just have to plod along with my uneducated brain.

(That’s what I’ll do if I win the lotto: Go to college.)

you win the lotto you wont have to “go to” college. you can buy a college and let it come to wherever you are

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:03:50am

re: #346 Birth Control Works

Communism/Collectivism is good for women. That is why the Whackos are against Feminism, they see it as part and parcel of collectivism.

It’s around a century since the Communist revolutions (Russia/China/Cuba/etc), and a quarter-century since their rejection. It’s getting to be time for an interim assessment, and it’s not going to be a simple skull-count.

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EPR-radar  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:05:28am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

That’s what I don’t get. He lies to them the most and they worship him.

I really do think tr*mpism is a religious cult. tr*mp is an Asshole, and that is exactly what tr*mp’s followers like the most about tr*mp.

When tr*mp spews his bullshit and lies, his followers are incapable of seeing the lies and bullshit for what they are. Instead they see their ideal of a rich and powerful man ‘get away’ with saying whatever he wants and being an Asshole. To be such an Asshole is exactly what every wingnut wants most in the depths of his or her rotten soul. The god that wingnuts really worship is exactly this kind of Asshole, formed by projection of wingnut hate and resentment. No wonder wingnuts worship tr*mp. He’s as close as anyone has ever come to being the perfect Asshole.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:05:38am

re: #347 Birth Control Works

Such rape is now considered a War Crime by the UN.

Not that it matters …

What matters is the immediate leadership of the military forces involved.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:07:37am

re: #348 Birth Control Works

They want the myth.

Consequences are not their concern.

I have always thought that a successful con-man just needs to be slightly smarter than those that he/she is trying to con. It also helps to have no real moral compass whatsoever.

That’s not to say a con-man doesn’t have a compass, it just looks more like Captain Jack Sparrow’s compass than anything decent people might expect.

Even then, there also has to be some sort of willingness or belief by the person being conned for it to work.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:07:37am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

That’s what I don’t get. He lies to them the most and they worship him.

the only way i can rationalize this (yeah my mistake)

he lies about stupid stuff - crowd sizes and so i dont care
he doesnt lie about important stuff - “real” news tells me so
guy breaks the rules and gets stuff done - “real” news tells me so

they are actually getting screwed slowly and so they dont feel it
many of them almost got it with health ins a month ago
they wont get it with taxes - the impact is more indirect

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:07:55am

re: #352 EPR-radar

I really do think tr*mpism is a religious cult. tr*mp is an Asshole, and that is exactly what tr*mp’s followers like the most about tr*mp.

When tr*mp spews his bullshit and lies, his followers are incapable of seeing the lies and bullshit for what they are. Instead they see their ideal of a rich and powerful man ‘get away’ with saying whatever he wants and being an Asshole. To be such an Asshole is exactly what every wingnut wants most in the depths of his or her rotten soul. The god that wingnuts really worship is exactly this kind of Asshole, formed by projection of wingnut hate and resentment. No wonder wingnuts worship tr*mp. He’s as close as anyone has ever come to being the perfect Asshole.

He really is the perfect man for the GOP base. I guess I do see it. I really want reality to come crashing down on them like a pile of bricks when Trump doesn’t give them what they want but they’ll just blame liberals anyhow. So I hope for just as much Trump to be exposed as the fraudulent piece of shit he is. Bonus if there’s tape of him calling his supporters gullible morons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:10:42am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

So Trump literally had to be convinced with skirts and wow I had no idea female literacy was that low. Not surprised tho.

The literacy rate in general was very low. Moreover, I doubt those wingnuts give a diddly damn about Afghan women, who was “elite,” and what their literacy rate was other than a “whataboutism” argument.

Now, the entire country’s literacy rate is below one third.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:11:26am

re: #352 EPR-radar

I really do think tr*mpism is a religious cult. tr*mp is an Asshole, and that is exactly what tr*mp’s followers like the most about tr*mp.

When tr*mp spews his bullshit and lies, his followers are incapable of seeing the lies and bullshit for what they are. Instead they see their ideal of a rich and powerful man ‘get away’ with saying whatever he wants and being an Asshole. To be such an Asshole is exactly what every wingnut wants most in the depths of his or her rotten soul. The god that wingnuts really worship is exactly this kind of Asshole, formed by projection of wingnut hate and resentment. No wonder wingnuts worship tr*mp. He’s as close as anyone has ever come to being the perfect Asshole.

exactly

they want to break the social contract because it’s too much work and actually too “fair” - kinda like “free markets”

they want advantages. they want to just ‘take’

like trump said, if a contract is no longer to my advantage i break it. his word, when he signs is worthless.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:12:29am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

They’re impressed by the person who lies the most to them and tells them what they want to hear - they don’t want inconvenient facts. They don’t want to be told things may be hard. They don’t want to be told that they may have to change jobs/careers because mining jobs aren’t coming back. They don’t want to be told that minorities have civil and voting rights just like them.

They want straight talk - right up to the point it interferes with their worldview. Then they want lies and the more grandiose the better, because they feel better about themselves for it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:12:41am

re: #357 Anymouse 🌹

The literacy rate in general was very low. Moreover, I doubt those wingnuts give a diddly damn about Afghan women, who was “elite,” and what their literacy rate was other than a “whataboutism” argument.

Now, the entire country’s literacy rate is below one third.

I know. It’s just astounding to think a country in modern times with a literacy rate even that low.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:12:59am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Boy, 4, sent home from school over long hair

FFS It’s 2017.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:15:02am

re: #357 Anymouse 🌹

The literacy rate in general was very low. Moreover, I doubt those wingnuts give a diddly damn about Afghan women, who was “elite,” and what their literacy rate was other than a “whataboutism” argument.

Now, the entire country’s literacy rate is below one third.

I know some very secular Afghan women who are still subjected to attacks by Trump supporters on social media when their beloved leader is criticized by them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:15:29am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Boy, 4, sent home from school over long hair

Seems like a slam dunk case re: Freedom of expression.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:16:22am

re: #364 Anymouse 🌹

Seems like a slam dunk case re: Freedom of expression.

I can’t look at the article, but SCOTUS has already ruled that the rights of children are limited.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:16:30am

re: #363 electrotek

I know some very secular Afghan women who are still subjected to attacks by Trump supporters on social media when their beloved leader is criticized by them.

If you’re too secular, they call them sluts, if they wear the hjab, it’s ISLAM! I really feel bad for Muslim women. They get used in the worst possible ways by all sorts of extremists.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:18:09am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:18:39am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

FFS It’s 2017.

It’s Barbers Hill school district what did they expect?
/

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:18:46am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:18:55am

re: #367 Birth Control Works

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Said it earlier but right next to the hammer as I chisel at the marble.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:19:12am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

If you’re too secular, they call them sluts, if they wear the hjab, it’s ISLAM! I really feel bad for Muslim women. They get used in the worst possible ways by all sorts of extremists.

Even worse if you’re a LGBTQ+ Muslim.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:19:24am

re: #369 lawhawk

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Authentic gibberish.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:19:24am

re: #364 Anymouse 🌹

Seems like a slam dunk case re: Freedom of expression.

If that’s the case, why do we have school dress-codes?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:19:46am

re: #371 electrotek

Even worse if you’re a LGBTQ+ Muslim.

No doubt.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:20:24am

re: #373 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If that’s the case, why do we have school dress-codes?

School boards have tremendous power.

It’s weird, truly weird. The courts will so often defer to school policy even when it seems to break the law. Children have few rights.

One reason I sent my kid to private school. I know what the rules are and who to go to if there is an issue. In the public school system, you end up with the cops and in the courts.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:21:06am

re: #373 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If that’s the case, why do we have school dress-codes?

That’s correct. Schools can and do set limits for how their pupils are dress. Moreover, this child is four years old so I’m assuming it’s a pre-school and most pre-schools are private. It’s messed up but I don’t think they have a legal chance here. Really messed up to the kid though.my cousin’s boy had long hair for a long time and got shit for it too.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:21:18am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:22:50am

re: #377 lawhawk

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Some of them like another flag too. Don’t give me this one flag crap Donald when you defend the CSA flag, a flag of treason no less. Sigh, I hate this fucking asshole.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:23:58am

Sanity break:

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:23:58am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:23:59am

Cute kid though. My niece is a little younger. I’m relieved that the church that runs her pre-school hasn’t given her too much grief for having pierced ears.(Pierced ears are a thing that young girls get done at a young age in Peru where my SiL is from.).

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:24:00am

Saudi Arabia does it yet again:

I’ll go to KSA next time and start vogueing everywhere in support of this kid.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:24:31am

re: #380 FormerDirtDart

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Uh he never stepped foot in modern America and if he’s under attack then good riddance, he did commit genocide.

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Jay C  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:24:37am

re: #377 lawhawk

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Lessee: “Ein volk, ein heimat, ein flagge”….

Yep, sounds good…..!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:25:13am

re: #382 electrotek

Saudi Arabia does it yet again:

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I’ll go to KSA next time and start vogueing everywhere in support of this kid.

I’d make a joke about the kid being arrested for thinking it was still 1996 but man this is messed up. Religious police of any kind are.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:25:28am

re: #338 electrotek

But that doesn’t change the fact that the Soviet military did commit widespread rape of Afghan women either.

If it were up to me, I’d rather have no occupation of the country.

It’s not an occupation of a country as much as control over the results of the poppy production.

Why has Afghanistan been such a focus?

HEROIN.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:26:14am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

I’d make a joke about the kid being arrested for thinking it was still 1996 but man this is messed up. Religious police of any kind are.

Seriously. Reminds me of the Acehnese authorities waging a war against Indonesian punk rockers in the province a few years back.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:26:22am

re: #365 Belafon

I can’t look at the article, but SCOTUS has already ruled that the rights of children are limited.

I am not a lawyer, but generally state intervention into children’s rights regard things such as age (labour, driving, voting, &c).

In all rights cases a state has to show a compelling interest to restrict a person’s rights, and children are still people.

This school is in Texas. Since the school board is likely conservative, they don’t give a damn about individual rights.

An up-and-coming lawyer might consider taking the case with a large number of digits after the $. Alternatively, the mother could obtain said letter from the Church of Satan.

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wrenchwench  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:26:49am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Boy, 4, sent home from school over long hair

Best line from a real news story, this year, so far:

She tried a bun, but his hair was still not considered acceptable.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:27:05am

re: #380 FormerDirtDart

“Even Christopher Columbus, the founder of our nation, is under attack,” GOP mayoral candidate Nicole Malliotakis says

was anything here before columbus ‘founder[ed]’ it?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:27:07am

re: #387 electrotek

Seriously. Reminds me of the Acehnese authorities waging a war against Indonesian punk rockers in the province a few years back.

Or Vlad’s war against Pussy Riot. Speaking of Indonesia though, I tried Indonesian food in Amsterdam and man was it good. This just sucks though.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:27:48am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Or Vlad’s war against Pussy Riot. Speaking of Indonesia though, I tried Indonesian food in Amsterdam and man was it good. This just sucks though.

It’s quite obvious why the Dutch colonized Indonesia for 300 some odd years: for its spices to improve upon otherwise bland Dutch food.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:28:17am

re: #301 Targetpractice

That’s what I love, this idea that a Bernie who won the nomination would have made it to November intact and able to bring in all the votes that Hillary won and then enough atop those to beat Trump.

I’ve said it here before.

“Bernie Would Have Won” will be around forever. It is now book.

Why? Because there is no way to disprove it so it will always be accepted as a truism. The fact Hillary lost to a candidate like Trump just makes it more so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:29:00am

re: #390 dangerman

was anything here before columbus ‘founder[ed]’ it?

I really do like the idea of renaming Columbus Day Indigenous Peoples Day. A year ago I bought my brother a book of all the tribes of North and South America- he’s something of an indigenous peoples’ activist and fasciated by all the tribes and it was something he shared with his daughter. To me, that’s much more important than Columbus who enver even stepped foot in the United Staets.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:29:41am

re: #392 electrotek

It’s quite obvious why the Dutch colonized Indonesia for 300 some odd years: for its spices to improve upon otherwise bland Dutch food.

Yeah Dutch food in itself is meh but Indonesian is very good. I do think tehy have teh right idea with the mayo and fries though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:31:17am

The school in question is a public school.

bhisd.net

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wrenchwench  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:33:05am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Yeah Dutch food in itself is meh but Indonesian is very good. I do think tehy have teh right idea with the mayo and fries though.

Americans do it up right.

Parked on the napkin to catch the drips.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:33:16am

re: #393 ObserverArt

I’ve said it here before.

“Bernie Would Have Won” will be around forever. It is now book.

Why? Because there is no way to disprove it so it will always be accepted as a truism. The fact Hillary lost to a candidate like Trump just makes it more so.

i hate to be contrarian (actually i kind of like it sometimes)
we’re in an age where counter-logic, rationality, arguments of definitive proof don’t seem to matter much

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:35:29am

Last July 7 —WOW

July 7, 1946
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:36:45am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Boy, 4, sent home from school over long hair

And it’s Texas again…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:37:23am

re: #399 Birth Control Works

Last July 7 —WOW

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Beautiful couple. I believe the Bushes celebrated theirs recently too.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:38:48am
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:39:36am

re: #399 Birth Control Works

Last July 7 —WOW

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my grandparents (mom’s side) made it to 70 years.
that’s some enduring endurance.
he went conveniently ‘deaf’ the last few years and that helped things a lot

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:39:59am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:41:00am

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

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They find WWI shells in Flanders all the time. Got a photograph of one.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:41:13am

I grew up here in Texas. A friend had a mohawk. Partially through our senior year, in 1987, the high school decided that she couldn’t have a hair cut. Students protested. They finally relented. She was a top 25 student out of 455. It seemed rather arbitrary considering how long they waited.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:41:36am

re: #405 Birth Control Works

Paul Ryan booed for lying to a nun about poverty

Video at link

Any Catholic boy knows not to lie to the nuns. He’s lucky these weren’t the nuns my Dad ahd in school. Or else Paul would have a sore ear.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:45:26am

re: #386 Birth Control Works

It’s not an occupation of a country as much as control over the results of the poppy production.

Why has Afghanistan been such a focus?

HEROIN.

Now, I suppose Trump and Putin have worked some deal over the Poppy Production that is of mutual benefit to both.

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wrenchwench  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:46:20am

re: #404 dangerman

my grandparents (mom’s side) made it to 70 years.
that’s some enduring endurance.
he went conveniently ‘deaf’ the last few years and that helped things a lot

Mine on my mom’s side separated after 49 years. Gramma’s comment, ‘The first year was OK.’

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:47:22am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Beautiful couple. I believe the Bushes celebrated theirs recently too.

And The Queen and Prince Philip

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wrenchwench  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:47:38am

re: #407 Belafon

I grew up here in Texas. A friend had a mohawk. Partially through our senior year, in 1987, the high school decided that she couldn’t have a hair cut. Students protested. They finally relented. She was a top 25 student out of 455. It seemed rather arbitrary considering how long they waited.

Somebody complained.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:48:31am

re: #411 Birth Control Works

And The Queen and Prince Philip

Yeah. I mean I’m definitely for liberal divorce laws but there’s something beautiful about a relationship lasting that long.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:48:47am

George H.W. Bush and his wife, Barbara, 92 and 91, will mark their 72nd wedding anniversary today. The former president and first lady are the longest-married couple in presidential history, followed by John and Abigail Adams, who were married 54 years. Bush, who was in office from 1989 to 1993, and the then-first lady were married on this day in 1945 at the First Presbyterian Church in Rye, New York, while Bush was on leave as a Navy pilot in World War II.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:50:14am

re: #414 Birth Control Works

Yeah I figured they were married in ‘45 or early ‘46 since Dubya was born in July 46. Not sure how old the oldest of Jimmy and Rosslyn’s kids are. I respect the Bushes. Wouldn’t have voted for Poppy but he is a good statesman.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:50:49am

re: #389 wrenchwench

Best line from a real news story, this year, so far:

She tried a bun, but his hair was still not considered acceptable.

Man-buns are not acceptable. Period. Ever. This would be a boy-bun and I am not sure about those. This bun is acceptable:

Grey mini-lop bun
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:53:06am

re: #406 HappyWarrior

They find WWI shells in Flanders all the time. Got a photograph of one.

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Indeed - every year. The iron harvest.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:53:57am

re: #416 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Man-bun are not acceptable. Period. Ever. This would be a boy-bun and I am not sure about those. This bun is acceptable:

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The man-bun is all the rage over here.

*sigh*

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:54:39am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:55:38am

re: #419 lawhawk

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It’s going to happen.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:56:35am

re: #291 GlutenFreeJesus

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:56:50am

re: #402 Birth Control Works

Jared Kushner’s firm seeks arrest of Maryland tenants to collect debt

Fucking slumlord just like his grandfather-in-law.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:58:17am

re: #416 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Man-bun are not acceptable. Period. Ever. This would be a boy-bun and I am not sure about those. This bun is acceptable:

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Hey, I was rockin’ a legit man bun a couple of years ago…pfft

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2017 • 9:58:47am

re: #399 Birth Control Works

Last July 7 —WOW

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What that photo reminds me of:

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Jay C  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:00:58am

re: #417 Dr Lizardo

They find WWI shells in Flanders all the time. Got a photograph of one.

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Indeed - every year. The iron harvest.

And what’s amazing is that the most of them (or so I’ve read) are still active: and will explode if not handled carefully. They had good quality control back in those days….

Shells are bad enough: every so often, though, construction crews in Germany or England, dig up a few unexploded “blockbusters” - 1000kg+ aerial bombs - now THOSE need careful handling…..

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Decatur Deb  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:02:54am

re: #425 Jay C

And what’s amazing is that the most of them (or so I’ve read) are still active: and will explode if not handled carefully. They had good quality control back in those days….

Shells are bad enough: every so often, though, construction crews in Germany or England, dig up a few unexploded “blockbusters” - 1000kg+ aerial bombs - now THOSE need careful handling…..

Especially since the British bombs were often multifuze, with anti-tampering devices.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:03:18am
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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:03:32am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:03:52am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Boy, 4, sent home from school over long hair

Texas, of course.

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Skip Intro  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:07:23am

And another one bails out.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:08:50am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

That’s not authentic gibberish. This is authentic gibberish:

The woman who said this is a Staten Island GOPer who wants to be Mayor of NYC. She’s pandering to the SI GOPers and Italians who are a significant voting bloc in the city. Of course, it’s all lies all the time, and this one is easily disproven as well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:09:14am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

That’s what I don’t get. He lies to them the most and they worship him.

The reason many still believe in him is because there is an area where he is actually following through: appointing judges who will turn back the clock in every area; judges who will support religion over the Constitution; judges who will outlaw abortion; judges who are racist to the core. This is what many care about — and he is accomplishing this goal, even though personally he doesn’t care. His judges are the same as the judges Pence will appoint. We will not recover from this in my lifetime (since I am an old)

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:09:28am

re: #419 lawhawk

What do you have to lose?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:09:48am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:11:35am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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I don’t blame her. He is a creep.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:13:37am

re: #425 Jay C

And what’s amazing is that the most of them (or so I’ve read) are still active: and will explode if not handled carefully. They had good quality control back in those days….

Shells are bad enough: every so often, though, construction crews in Germany or England, dig up a few unexploded “blockbusters” - 1000kg+ aerial bombs - now THOSE need careful handling…..

They’ll be finding unexploded ordinance here in Europe for the next 100 years I figure.

Ostrava was bombed by Allied air forces towards the end of WWII in Europe, and it’s rumored that there’s a couple of unexploded bombs in the Vitkovice section of town. Again, it’s just a rumor, but I wouldn’t be shocked at all to find out it’s true.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:13:50am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame her. He is a creep.

slime
pond scum
stadium trash
nouveau riche
nasty

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:14:12am

re: #380 FormerDirtDart

“Even Christopher Columbus, the founder of our nation, is under attack,” GOP mayoral candidate Nicole Malliotakis says

— Mara Gay

As a self-identified GOP person this candidate is graded on a curve. If in response to the question “Who is our nation’s founder?” a GOP answers with—

1. George Jefferson
2. Thomas Hamilton
3. John Franklin
4. Christopher Columbus

They receive an ‘OK’ mark on their answer sheet.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:14:14am
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sagehen  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:14:25am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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I remember wishing at the time that he’d have gotten close enough to catch an elbow.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:15:31am

re: #431 lawhawk

That’s not authentic gibberish. This is authentic gibberish:

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The woman who said this is a Staten Island GOPer who wants to be Mayor of NYC. She’s pandering to the SI GOPers and Italians who are a significant voting bloc in the city. Of course, it’s all lies all the time, and this one is easily disproven as well.

Christopher Columbus is the founder of our nation?

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:15:52am

I just did a Pages Post on the next series of RC Sex Crimes Scandal —I hope anyway.

If this doesn’t go viral …

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:16:43am

re: #440 electrotek

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nice - 24 hour rule?

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:17:39am

re: #444 Birth Control Works

nice - 24 hour rule?

Won’t apply here. Trump supporters still think internment was a great thing to happen, and a rational reaction to Japanese killing thousands of servicemembers during Pearl Harbor.

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Targetpractice  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:18:09am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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Yes, but what were her thoughts when he dry-humped the chair?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:19:39am

re: #440 electrotek

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Fucking bigoted asshole.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:19:51am

Annnnnd the yam is ready to speak in my state.

Reno can be pretty redneck. Although, the university up there is beautiful.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:20:07am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:20:38am

re: #436 electrotek

“Boo hoo you Japs” - a Japanese-American Democrat who was formerly a Republican received this attack from a self-described Trump supporter

I would respond with something like this:

Dear Asshole,
Your poor grand daddy’s statues got pulled down? Boo hoo hoo ― you secesh murdered thousands of servicemen at Shiloh, Antietam, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor ― did you forget that detail?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:21:34am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

I would respond with something like this:

Dear Asshole,
Your poor grand daddy’s statues got pulled down? Boo hoo hoo ― you secesh murdered thousands of servicemen at Shiloh, Antietam, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor ― did you forget that detail?

Ha yep!

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Mike Lamb  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:21:52am

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

Fucking slumlord just like his grandfather-in-law.

I have to step in here. I hate to do this, but the article is misleading. I do consumer debt collection as a big part of my practice. If all other options fail, a creditor can request a “judgment debtor exam” (called by other names in various states). These are court orders that require a debtor to appear, bring financial documents, and allow the creditor to ask questions about the debtor’s ability to pay a debt. If a debtor fails to appear, a civil arrest warrant can be issued.

A few things to keep in mind. First, the civil arrest warrant is only issued for a failure to appear—not for failing to pay the debt. Moreover, these exams are usually set weeks in advance. A debtor can contact the firm well ahead of that time to make arrangements that don’t involve taking time from work or going to the courthouse. Second, at least in Arizona, civil arrest warrants are only triggered if someone is caught for something else (i.e. a traffic stop)—they aren’t served like criminal warrants. Third, the civil arrest warrants are only good for a year.

Last, but not least, I can say in my practice, a person has probably had 10-15 opportunities to make an arrangement on a debt. The debtor exam/civil arrest warrant route only happens if we’ve been ignored the entire time.

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:23:32am

re: #430 Skip Intro

And another one bails out.

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With an acrostic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:25:23am

re: #446 Targetpractice

Yes, but what were her thoughts when he dry-humped the chair?

She continued to describe her wonky plans in detail even while throwing up in her mouth!

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:26:06am

re: #453 BeachDem

With an acrostic.

I kept reading it as “I’m Peach.” I thought, “okay……”

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:27:19am

re: #430 Skip Intro

And another one bails out.

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IMPEACH!

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Skip Intro  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:27:35am

re: #453 BeachDem

Very good!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:29:48am

A fascinating video of lost Los Angeles - the Bunker Hill neighborhood, cleared off in the mid to late 1950’s. My dad grew up there.

Lost Hills

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:32:07am

Citing Trump Remarks, Entire President’s Arts Council Quits
The first letter of each of the letter’s first six paragraphs spelled out the message “R-E-S-I-S-T”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:32:15am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

Uhh Fox?

That’s what most of us were thinking.

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:32:45am

re: #458 Dr Lizardo

A fascinating video of lost Los Angeles - the Bunker Hill neighborhood, cleared off in the mid to late 1950’s. My dad grew up there.

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It depresses me to see much of Los Angeles’ history destroyed in the name of progress.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:35:11am

re: #456 MsJ

IMPEACH!

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Has anyone else figured that out yet? Awesome.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:35:24am

re: #461 electrotek

It depresses me to see much of Los Angeles’ history destroyed in the name of progress.

Progress sometimes means running water, fire safety standards, and elevators.

NOt to mention air conditioners, centralized heating, and NO BUGS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:35:26am

re: #460 Eclectic Cyborg

Uhh Fox?

That’s what most of us were thinking.

Fox expects its viewers to be like NO CREEP. NO CREEP. YOUR TEH CREEPY!!!1!!!!

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electrotek  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:36:30am

re: #463 Birth Control Works

Progress sometimes means running water, fire safety standards, and elevators.

NOt to mention air conditioners, centralized heating, and NO BUGS.

But those Victorian homes in what is now downtown Los Angeles :(

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:37:05am

re: #462 Belafon

Has anyone else figured that out yet? Awesome.

I just saw it on twitter. There’s an article at (I think) the Hill now, too.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:38:24am

re: #465 electrotek

But those Victorian homes in what is now downtown Los Angeles :(

Not all of them would have lasted, even with upkeep.

somethings just wear out.

468
Belafon  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:39:02am

Maybe we can get a resignation letter that spells “Fucking Idiot” next.

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wrenchwench  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:39:57am

re: #458 Dr Lizardo

A fascinating video of lost Los Angeles - the Bunker Hill neighborhood, cleared off in the mid to late 1950’s. My dad grew up there.

[Embedded content]

Video

Follow this one. I don’t see you there.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:40:18am

How to waste as much tax dollars as possible.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:40:24am

re: #466 MsJ

Everyone’s decided to pull acrostics out in resistance to Trump’s nonstop dumbfuckery. I love it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:41:22am

re: #470 MsJ

How to waste as much tax dollars as possible.

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Yeah I’m sure this would go over just fine if Obama had done it. What a joke.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:41:38am

re: #470 MsJ

Trump “wanted to bring back the luster and the glory.”

So, shiny wallpaper.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:43:24am

re: #473 jaunte

So, shiny wallpaper.

they had to remove it probably to check for electronic shenanigans when he moved in (or to install them)

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:44:36am

re: #473 jaunte

So, shiny wallpaper.

Gold lamé.

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William Lewis  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:44:42am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Well, the fellow in our county seat who flies the Dixie Swastika from his flagstaff (WTF this is Nebraska) took it down after Charlottesville. He’s flying a Cornhuskers flag now.

My neighbour with the “88” tattoo on her neck was out walking her dog just before the eclipse and stopped to talk to my wife and me. She initiated her conversation by saying she thought she needed to rethink her position.

(If she’s serious about that, I might be asking for help from the folks here at LGF on how to discuss this subject without driving her away. She already knows I am a socialistic liberal Democratic atheist so those won’t be stumbling blocks. But if she is serious about leaving behind the white supremacy support, I would like to help with that rather than foul it up.)

Read this for inspiration: How One Man Convinced 200 Ku Klux Klan Members To Give Up Their Robes

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:45:24am

re: #475 MsJ

Gold lamé.

Needs no accent. It’s just plain lame.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:48:06am

re: #470 MsJ

Well now we have an answer to: Can wallpaper be racist?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:48:50am

re: #473 jaunte

So, shiny wallpaper.

By the time Trump gets done redecorating the White House, it’s gonna be like a Russian oligarch’s hamfisted attempt to replicate the Palace of Versailles meets the House of Porn.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:51:37am
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Birth Control Works  Aug 23, 2017 • 10:53:27am

re: #479 Dr Lizardo

By the time Trump gets done redecorating the White House, it’s gonna be like a Russian oligarch’s hamfisted attempt to replicate the Palace of Versailles meets the House of Porn.

Palace of Versailles meets Larry Flynt.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:01:57am

Well, waiting on a new hard drive (ssd) for someone’s old laptop. The old drive had many bad sectors, and a ssd will really give it a new lease on life.

Btw, here’s a tip, if you just have to browse porn on your computer, spin up a virtual machine first and view it in there.

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CleverToad  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:05:58am

OT: Home again, home again, jiggity jig.
Two items off the bucket list — totality and Ashfall Fossil Beds.

Totality was totally worth it — Hastings, NE at the Crane Trust Nature Center. Only a few high wisps over the sun, banks of clouds on the horizon that lit up beautifully for the 360-degree sunset effect as the sun went dark. Eerily beautiful corona, a flash of the diamond ring as totality ended. Cicadas shrilling in confusion, a mellow crowd enjoying the show. Chance of a lifetime, with the chance that we can see it again in 2024. Didn’t try to take pics, there were so many better photogs there I couldn’t have tried to match. Just stored up the memories.

Ashfall fossils were also way cool, but we may never get there again. Loooooong trip from anywhere, a surfeit of placid rural roads that were pretty in their way but frustrating after two days and a big honking detour that took us 20 miles east out of our way.

No traffic jams — traveled out from Denver on 1-70 and then cut north through Kansas; didn’t try to get on I-80 till yesterday noonish and it was back to normal. The small motels and restaurants we stopped at, as well as the Ashfall folks, all said that they had a surge of customers for the eclipse, so this display of science was good for Nebraska business! Home now and need to catch up on 3 1/2 days of email and LGF. Happy to report that in almost 1400 miles we only saw two Trump bumper stickers and one leftover sign. Did not attempt to discuss politics with anyone on the trip.

Didn’t see a single Wyoming license plate the whole trip, which is odd. Maybe they’re all still recovering.

Going back to the top of the thread to catch up a little. Hope none of the Lizards had anything terrible happen.

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:07:05am

re: #474 Birth Control Works

they had to remove it probably to check for electronic shenanigans when he moved in (or to install them)

And again after the Russians visited.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:08:09am

re: #440 electrotek

I’d be tempted to leave the sender’s name visible.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2017 • 11:22:13am

re: #470 MsJ

How to waste as much tax dollars as possible.

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A lot of people did a lot of work in that room for eight years

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 23, 2017 • 12:19:45pm

re: #442 b.d. (bill d.)

Christopher Columbus is the founder of our nation?

Took him a few (hundred) years to put it down on paper.


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