Acoustic Beauty: Read/McQueen, “Send Off” (Live Performance Video)

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Read/McQueen - Send Off (Live Performance Video)
From the album ‘Read/McQueen’ (GroundUP, 2021)
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Chris McQueen - “Send Off” is the last song we wrote in the batch of songs that became our self-titled GroundUP debut. Rather than starting slowly and building, we thought it could be cool to have a song that just kicks right in at full speed. Of course then there’s the question of where you go from there… after trying a lot of different approaches we found a sort of (for lack of a better word) “Americana” tune that felt like a natural extension of the flashy intro. Live shows are still a little weird right now, but we were really happy to be able to do this in-person + livestream gig at the East Austin Piano Shop. A big thank you to Collin Shook for the high quality video and audio production!

Recorded and filmed by Collin Shook at the East Austin Piano Shop in Austin, TX, August 17, 2021

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1
gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:20:25pm

A couple of very deep cuts: “In town to record a new version of “Hungry Heart” for an upcoming EP release, Bruce joined his friend Wolfgang Niedecken and his Leopardefellband for six(!) run-throughs of Bruce’s 1981 single. In between takes, Bruce and Wolfgang’s band treated the crowd to a selection of Dylan and Stones covers, the last of which was “Jumpin’ Jack Flash.”

Bruce Springsteen - 03 - Knockin’ on Heaven’s door

Bruce Springsteen - 09 - Jumpin’ Jack flash

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:24:08pm

Here’s what I am hoping the President would say in public:

” We reject the effort by Texas Republicans to enforce their religious beliefs by taking away the rights of others. We reject the instillation of theocracy that the Texas Republicans are attempting. Such efforts are un-American”.

Yes, I want him to utter “religion”, “theocracy” and such out in the open.

We need to take the covers off of the real conflict.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:26:05pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:26:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:27:32pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:28:04pm

It’s minor compared to the facilitation of abuse by the state built into this snitch system, but…

…this is going to cost, because this shit has to be investigated and sometimes even carried through to court.

That’s time and effort and wages that somebody fucking pays for,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:30:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:32:25pm

re: #337 PhillyPretzel

Clearly “Adam” does not know his history. As per Wiki it was the Great Famine.
en.wikipedia.org

Which was perpetrated by England by forcing the export of Ireland’s crops even during the potato blight.

England perpetrated a mass-starvation campaign on Ireland. From the article you shared yourself:

From 1846, the impact of the blight was exacerbated by the British Whig government’s economic policy of laissez-faire capitalism.

It was also perpetrated on the majority-Irish speaking areas of the country.

This goes back to yesterday’s discussion of Edmond Burke. He was the Whig Party’s strongest proponent of free-trade with Ireland, and the convenient knock-off effect is it depopulated about 20% of the country.

Conservatism kills. It always has.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:32:27pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ckkatz  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:33:58pm
President Biden called a Texas law prohibiting most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy a blatant violation of a woman’s constitutional right to abortion established under the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court ruling.

In a statement Wednesday, the president said his administration is committed to Roe v. Wade and will “protect and defend that right.”
…snip…
In a separate statement, Vice President Harris also decried the Texas law, describing it as an “all-out assault on reproductive health” that “effectively bans abortion for the nearly 7 million Texans of reproductive age. Patients in Texas will now be forced to travel out-of-state or carry their pregnancy to term against their will.”

Biden says Texas law prohibiting most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy ‘blatantly violates’ constitutional right
washingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:34:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:34:52pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s minor compared to the facilitation of abuse by the state built into this snitch system, but…

…this is going to cost, because this shit has to be investigated and sometimes even carried through to court.

That’s time and effort and wages that somebody fucking pays for,

And every penny spent by the state on this is a penny not spent on citizen’s actual needs. That is a win for a conservative.

Noting some of the country’s largest corporations today are opposing the infrastructure bill, don’t look to them to oppose the Texas Enslavement Bill either. Libertarian organisations like ALEC are just fine with slavery.

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Dangerman  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:36:08pm

Definitely read this thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:37:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:38:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:41:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:41:29pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:42:33pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Matt has trenches and factories he needs those kids to die in…

…but only if his masters don’t find them sexy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:42:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:48:30pm

Post-Tropical Cyclone Ida Advisory Number 27
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD AL092021
500 PM EDT Wed Sep 01 2021

…POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE IDA BRINGING WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAIN AND
AREAS OF LIFE THREATENING FLASH FLOODING ALONG AND NEAR TRACK…
…AN ENHANCED RISK FOR TORNADOES ACROSS THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC
AND FAR SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THIS EVENING…

SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT…2100 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…39.7N 77.0W
ABOUT 35 MI…60 KM E OF HAGERSTOWN MARYLAND
ABOUT 35 MI…55 KM S OF HARRISBURG PENNSYLVANIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…35 MPH…55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…ENE OR 65 DEGREES AT 25 MPH…41 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…999 MB…29.50 INCHES

nhc.noaa.gov

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:48:32pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:50:20pm

Repost from downstairs:

“States with huge corporations like Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc. How do they intend to compete in a global market when their state governments are hellbent on turning their societies into proto-feudal backwaters? AT&T, Dell, American Airlines, Waste Management, all are headquartered in Texas. They can’t be happy about this caveman shit legislation.”

Capitalism has no social conscience. If the wind blows a certain direction, you can be sure the companies will go that direction as well. A long time ago, companies never said a word when blacks were discriminated against because it would cost them business. Fast forward to today and companies left and right are pro-gay, pro-BLM, etc. Don’t think it’s because they’re doing the right thing. They’re doing it because that’s where their share is.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:51:18pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Women will be heard too, asswipe.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:52:05pm

One last one.
Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, Springsteen & Lofgren

Neil Young Bruce Springsteen,Crosby and Nash hungry heart live Muziek Entertainment 123video

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:52:15pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:52:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:52:42pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

Women will be heard too, asswipe.

Only if they organize. Find a train that’s going the right way and get on it.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:52:58pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

Women will be heard too, asswipe.

Scared isn’t the right word.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:53:24pm

Extremely dangerous wind shear setup here, as thunderstorms roll in.

windy.com

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:53:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:54:48pm

Townhall writer.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:55:27pm

re: #23 Ace Rothstein

Capitalism has no social conscience. If the wind blows a certain direction, you can be sure the companies will go that direction as well. A long time ago, companies never said a word when blacks were discriminated against because it would cost them business. Fast forward to today and companies left and right are pro-gay, pro-BLM, etc. Don’t think it’s because they’re doing the right thing. They’re doing it because that’s where their share is.

Companies have a front of store that makes them look superficially engaged politically, but if you look at who they’re willing to compromise with, and what they’re willing to do overseas given the license….

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:56:27pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

Only if they organize. Find a train that’s going the right way and get on it.

Break some windows on the way to that train.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:56:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:59:26pm
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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:59:29pm

It’s not a law, it’s a threat.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 5:59:32pm

Northern NJ is getting serious rainfall - 5-8 inches out of this event. We’re in the heaviest rain at the moment, and there has been some thunder but the wind has been generally light.

Let’s keep it that way. As it is, the rain is causing flooding all over the region. Flood and weather watches/warnings/emergencies are lighting up the Accuweather screens light a christmas tree.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:00:18pm

re: #374 The Ghost of a Flea

People mocking Rogan for being a doof taking stupid meds are hitting the wrong note.

The right note to hit is that he’s able to throw money at the most expensive treatment available, the one that most people can’t get, but doesn’t even acknowledge that that is different from taking OTC crap.

He’s a fucking French duke posturing as though he’s toughing through a disease while getting concierge medicine that’s literally just pre-made antibodies.

I think it’s the right note. Rogan is obviously combining the antibodies with snake oil in an effort to validate the snake oil. He is not a doof but he is targeting people who are, and many of them will fall for it. It reminds me of those people who credit any and every break generated by human agency to divine intervention. The antibodies could well pull him through, but that’s not where he intends to put the credit. Wait and see, assuming he survives. If not, we can always send thoughts and prayers.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:02:31pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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This “we are stronger today than we have been in years” bullshit is getting old.

70% of the country supports abortion rights. They are stronger because they rigged the system to keep them in power.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:03:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:04:36pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

Women will be heard too, asswipe.

Libertarians are fine with enslaving women. And killing people for their sociopathic religion.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:05:19pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

We’re seeing the mid-tier sincere believers die of COVID.

The top are mostly vaccinated but still telling everyone else not to.

I have no idea at any moment what level of sincerity or falseness Rogan operates at any moment. He strikes me as narcissistic in the same way Alex Jones is: in the moment he completely believes stuff as long as he feels flattered.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:05:24pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Just provide free Ivermectin Plus

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:05:42pm

Oh and by the way, since these fucktards love to rant about “HIPPA!” (sic)

Let me tell you what may very well actually be a HIPAA violation. The state government of Texas asking your doctor if you’ve had an abortion.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:05:45pm

re: #37 jaunte

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It’s not a law, it’s a threat.

It’s going to take one or two women standing up to charges against them. It may take a setup case, where the woman and her “accuser” work together to bring the case to trial.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:06:19pm
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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:07:02pm

re: #46 Belafon

As things stand, providers won’t know if a given patient is for real, or some bounty hunter trying to set them up.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:07:33pm

re: #34 The Ghost of a Flea

Break some windows on the way to that train.

Only if it serves. Might want those windows when the wind blows cold.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:07:45pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Real measure of freedom is what you can do to others without consequences.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:08:23pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dipshits.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:08:40pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:08:44pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

I figured the train was crossing a state or national border and only going one way.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:09:30pm
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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:11:57pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I think it’s the right note. Rogan is obviously combining the antibodies with snake oil in an effort to validate the snake oil. He is not a doof but he is targeting people who are, and many of them will fall for it. It reminds me of those people who credit any and every break generated by human agency to divine intervention. The antibodies could well pull him through, but that’s not where he intends to put the credit. Wait and see, assuming he survives. If not, we can always send thoughts and prayers.

Back when I was much younger, I took some classes in psychopharmacology.
One instructor’s primary issue was drug interactions. He noted that the human body is a dynamic system which really complicates predicting how multiple drugs would interact at any given time.

He’d have gone ballistic at the folks taking the “shotgun” approach to treating an illness with a host of different drugs, especially without careful medical supervision. And I share that opinion.

Idiots all.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:14:23pm

re: #31 jaunte

“The Republicans promised to do this—where are the Democrats stopping them?” says @ElieNYC on GOP effort to ban abortion.

Where were the voters who needed to vote for more Democrats?

“Republicans are naturally shitty. Democrats are responsible for saving everything”.

I’m kind of sick of this shit.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:15:02pm

re: #53 The Ghost of a Flea

I figured the train was crossing a state or national border and only going one way.

The Freedom Train (1948) - Bing Crosby

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:16:02pm

re: #45 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Oh and by the way, since these fucktards love to rant about “HIPPA!” (sic)

Let me tell you what may very well actually be a HIPAA violation. The state government of Texas asking your doctor if you’ve had an abortion.

Not with a warrant. HIPAA doesn’t apply in court actions where the state is seeking an enforcement action against a crime.

The first couple cases they try to prosecute they are going to throw everything at the “criminal” woman and enablers including the International Space Station’s kitchen sink. The goal of conservatism is always power.

Fear will keep the local systems in line—Grand Moff Tarkin.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:16:59pm

This is one of the biggest reasons why many of us had such a sinking feeling when Donald Trump was elected, at a time when he would probably be able to install at least one Supreme Court justice. It turned out that he installed three.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:17:10pm

I don’t even understand what the fuck his argument is other than reflexive dickishness.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:19:48pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:21:26pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

I don’t even understand what his argument is other than reflexive dickishness.

Continuous reinforcement that his opponents are actually a single depraved mass, that all bad things are the same bad thing that his kind of people could never be a part of.

…especially when they’re putting fucking bounties on women and people that assist women in moving around.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:23:09pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOP: There’s nothing in the vote-by-mail law that doesn’t say we cannot do endless bullshyte audits at the taxpayers’ expense to push our lie of voter fraud.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:25:39pm

I’m tempted again to defect from Texas, but I want to stay and fight it out until we turn it blue. This means a lot more than waiting for the immutable force of demographics. The Repugs are pulling out all the stops to retain power even as a shrinking minority. Their every action seems directed toward that goal, and they are getting away with it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:26:59pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:27:50pm

Erickson’s talking that way precisely because his people just put in law a system that polices every single woman that could be pregnant, and everyone that could be helping a pregnant woman, with a network of paid informants that aren’t in any way vetted in their reliability.

He has to declare his opponents to be ultimately depraved in some cryptic, symbolic way because otherwise he’d have to reflect on the mounting wickedness of his own position, the way that when it works it’s cruel and when it doesn’t work it feeds the worst possible forms of depravity.

If everyone else is a Satanic Babykiller (TM Fred Clark) then merely providing state funding for a cartel of underwear-stealing, tampon-sniffing extortionist perverts is necessary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:29:26pm

The pro-covid party of New York.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:30:18pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Jack Piece-of-Shit.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:32:39pm

I truly hope these assholes are underestimating how much hurt and anger women are feeling about this. Other state’s forced birth groups are all gleeful about this and the laws are going to come once this is allowed to stand.

In GA, 95 percent of eligible people are now registered to vote. Much of this is due to the work of a badass woman, Stacey Abrams, who trained more than a few bad ass women(and men) to get out the vote. Keep pissing women off and drive us to the polls GOP, fuck you. This will cause a backlash, I hope Texans can figure out a way to fight back. The precedent being set here is dangerous and stupid.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:33:56pm

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:34:49pm

More than a little foreboding over what will come out of 20th anniversary of 9/11.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:36:37pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not with a warrant. HIPAA doesn’t apply in court actions where the state is seeking an enforcement action against a crime.

That’s why Tex-ass no longer classifies abortion as illegal, but allowed for private actors to sue those who may have gotten one - no proof required!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:39:34pm

More pro-plague Libertarians.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:40:02pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:41:08pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More pro-plague Libertarians.

I welcome them to govern through the next incidence of the Black Plague. A 25% mortality rate and insanely high infectiousness will ensure that any lack of mandate will kill a hundred million or more.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:41:28pm

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

More than a little foreboding over what will come out of 20th anniversary of 9/11.

I don’t want to mark the anniversary. It’s long past time to move on. While all our lizards are recounting the moment they changed their politics since that day, I’ll just say that I switched the day I read James Lileks telling his readers that he was going to “commemorate” 9/11 by watching the news coverage on his DVR. Like a fucking ghoul would do.

It’s going to be a bad day. Don’t mark it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:42:13pm

re: #72 Eric The Fruit Bat

This also allows for endless pestering lawsuits by prolife groups.

Basically legal trolling that will create enormous bills for anyone they target…the point being to target any women’s health org, nurse, or physician they suspect and drive them out with mounting bills.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:44:30pm

re: #77 The Ghost of a Flea

This also allows for endless pestering lawsuits by prolife groups.

Basically legal trolling that will create enormous bills for anyone they target…the point being to target any women’s health org, nurse, or physician they suspect and drive them out with mounting bills.

Legalizing and normalizing SLAPP law.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:46:03pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Can someone ask this dumbass how we got rid of fatal, serious diseases without public health mandates? I got my fucking smallpox vaccine at school FFS. All the rest I had to have to even attend school. My dad had to have all kinds of shots when he was in the Air Force. One good friend of mine was a Marine in Vietnam, he had to have all kinds of shots before he was even allowed into boot camp. Why it’s almost as though vaccines prevent diseases and there’s science to back that up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:47:01pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’m tempted again to defect from Texas, but I want to stay and fight it out until we turn it blue. This means a lot more than waiting for the immutable force of demographics. The Repugs are pulling out all the stops to retain power even as a shrinking minority. Their every action seems directed toward that goal, and they are getting away with it.

Texas has one of the lowest turnouts in elections of registered voters because of various obstacles that hinder voting. It is quite possible that Texas would be blue today (at least for statewide elections) if not for the deliberate hindrances placed in preventing people from voting. How can you take control and stop them if you are unable to vote and the current SCOTUS approves of these malicious attempts?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:47:30pm

The religion I am highlighting today is libertarianism. From Liberty Hangout (note what they changed their name to):

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:47:42pm

re: #69 A Mom Anon

I truly hope these assholes are underestimating how much hurt and anger women are feeling about this. Other state’s forced birth groups are all gleeful about this and the laws are going to come once this is allowed to stand.

In GA, 95 percent of eligible people are now registered to vote. Much of this is due to the work of a badass woman, Stacey Abrams, who trained more than a few bad ass women(and men) to get out the vote. Keep pissing women off and drive us to the polls GOP, fuck you. This will cause a backlash, I hope Texans can figure out a way to fight back. The precedent being set here is dangerous and stupid.

The problem is that women (white women in particular) are, and have been, a large part of how this sort of misogyny continues to win out, year in and year out. They are all too willing to help and support this kind of shit for pure ideology, as well as many knowing that they won’t be the sort of women that will suffer the most under laws like these. There’s no doubt going to be backlash, but it’s not going to be monolithic, and might not be enough to overturn just how much institutional support this sort of codified misogyny seems to have.

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Jay C  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:47:57pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The pro-covid party of New York.

Yeh, well: good luck* to them: New York is infamous for having a plethora of minor parties who somehow manage to qualify:: the ballots often have 10 or 12 slates on them: a lot with the D or R candidate(s) repeated. And they usually all end up in the same place: nowhere.

*actually: fuck them.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:48:03pm

re: #79 A Mom Anon

For that matter, just to be allowed to fly to India, I had to have shots for Asian diseases, as well as preventive medicine for malaria. If other countries won’t let us in without our shots, why shouldn’t we enforce people having shots within our own borders?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:49:27pm

re: #79 A Mom Anon

Can someone ask this dumbass how we got rid of fatal, serious diseases without public health mandates? I got my fucking smallpox vaccine at school FFS. All the rest I had to have to even attend school. My dad had to have all kinds of shots when he was in the Air Force. One good friend of mine was a Marine in Vietnam, he had to have all kinds of shots before he was even allowed into boot camp. Why it’s almost as though vaccines prevent diseases and there’s science to back that up.

Libertarianism is just as much a religion as conservatism is. The difference is they like to smoke weed. Sort of like the Catholics and Protestants of politics.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:50:04pm

re: #80 Hecuba’s daughter

Texas has one of the lowest turnouts in elections of registered voters because of various obstacles that hinder voting. It is quite possible that Texas would be blue today (at least for statewide elections) if not for the deliberate hindrances placed in preventing people from voting. How can you take control and stop them if you are unable to vote and the current SCOTUS approves of these malicious attempts?

If Texans aren’t willing to fight for democracy, there is no way we can impose it from without. They aren’t ready material for modern nation-building.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:52:07pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

If Texans aren’t willing to fight for democracy, there is no way we can impose it from without. They aren’t ready material for modern nation-building.

I mean, part of it seems to be just how many roadblocks can be put up for voters before it does just become too much to fight back against even with all effort? That seems to be a part of what’s happening in Texas. Increased engagement can only outpace suppression up to a point before roadblocks really do just become insurmountable, and it seems like Texas might have figured out just where that threshold becomes unbeatable.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:53:49pm

Reddit’s cracking down on Covid disinformation. Banning a sub that was coordinating disinformation attacks across the site, quarantining 54 related subs, and building a new reporting system. Reddit’s a cesspool that allows a lot more awfulness than they should, but if you start disrupting other subreddits, you’re going to get your sub banned.

COVID denialism and policy clarifications (Reddit)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:55:25pm

re: #84 Dopamine Fish

For that matter, just to be allowed to fly to India, I had to have shots for Asian diseases, as well as preventive medicine for malaria. If other countries won’t let us in without our shots, why shouldn’t we enforce people having shots within our own borders?

When Rev. Pat Robertson was running for the Presidency in 1984, he ran on a platform plank of barring emigration from the country, partly for the purpose of persecuting atheists.

What makes you think Republicans want you to travel abroad? Hear any outcry from them against the EU taking up barring Americans from travel?

You can’t persecute people in the name of your political religion if they can get away from you.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:55:43pm

re: #87 Citizen K

(Sorry. Read #86 in the voice of a pundit decrying the failure in Afghanistan.)

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:56:35pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:57:50pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

If Texans aren’t willing to fight for democracy, there is no way we can impose it from without. They aren’t ready material for modern nation-building.

…well played.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 6:59:45pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

If Texans aren’t willing to fight for democracy, there is no way we can impose it from without. They aren’t ready material for modern nation-building.

Oh, we definitely have a Taliban feel at times, but we have fought. Beto’s run was a pretty good fight, as was 2018. But we are overwhelmed by who’s in charge right now.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:03:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:04:05pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:04:06pm

re: #93 Belafon

Oh, we definitely have a Taliban feel at times, but we have fought. Beto’s run was a pretty good fight, as was 2018. But we are overwhelmed by who’s in charge right now.

In the last couple of months you’ve been acting like Alabama, but without the erudition.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:05:37pm

re: #76 Sherlock Hound

I don’t want to mark the anniversary. It’s long past time to move on. While all our lizards are recounting the moment they changed their politics since that day, I’ll just say that I switched the day I read James Lileks telling his readers that he was going to “commemorate” 9/11 by watching the news coverage on his DVR. Like a fucking ghoul would do.

It’s going to be a bad day. Don’t mark it.

“Patriot Day” (September 11) was passed through the House and Senate and signed into law by President George W. Bush. The bill was originally brought in October 2021 by Rep. Vito Fossella (R-NY).

The flag is mandated to be placed at half-mast throughout the nation and is now part of the Flag Code.

A legally-mandated moment of silence is also part of the law, which is 8:46 EDT.

You have no choice but to participate in conservative religion.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:06:29pm
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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:08:08pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

(Sorry. Read #86 in the voice of a pundit decrying the failure in Afghanistan.)

Yeah, my sarcasm meter is taking a beating lately, and this is definitely one of those things that has tensions high enough to catch sarc properly too. Though I feel like my diagnosis is still depressingly valid enough.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:09:53pm
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:11:28pm

Up here in Northern NJ, there are reports of 7-8-9 inches radar estimated thus far. I figure we’ve had a good 8 inches, and our sump is kicking in for the first time in a good number of years. We have other folks in our community who are seeing flooded basements.

Newark Liberty Terminal B has major flooding on the lower level due to the rains. There’s a ground stop as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:13:02pm

re: #91 Belafon

Is Erick son of Erick trying to say that women’s reproductive health advocates are using the Bible and Christianity to defend their position, because that’s what the slavers did to defend enslavement.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:14:12pm

re: #100 gocart mozart

I missed this one the other day:

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:14:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:16:16pm

re: #94 Belafon

It’s Politico; they have to carry the GOP’s talking points.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:17:38pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Patriot Day” (September 11) was passed through the House and Senate and signed into law by President George W. Bush. The bill was originally brought in October 2021 by Rep. Vito Fossella (R-NY).

The flag is mandated to be placed at half-mast throughout the nation and is now part of the Flag Code.

A legally-mandated moment of silence is also part of the law, which is 8:46 EDT.

You have no choice but to participate in conservative religion.

Quite. A few years ago in Peabody, Mass., the town next door, the police union tried to get 9/11 as an official day off.

They failed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:19:51pm
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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:21:55pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I’m sure “when” is carrying a lot of weight, considering:
1. It’s not the school systems that are always at fault for not having a mask mandate.
2. Private schools have also not mandated masks.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:22:09pm

Today’s “Fuck you, I’m trying” meal: baigan bharta and a corn dog.

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mmmirele  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:26:12pm

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

More than a little foreboding over what will come out of 20th anniversary of 9/11.

Then celebrate the 30th anniversary of the release of Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit” on September 10. (Really!)

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:26:19pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Just wear your fucking masks, people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:28:06pm

They forgot the part about exporting disease to the rest of the nation, though it appears the Libertarian Party is pro-plague like the Republican Party.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:29:07pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They forgot the part about exporting disease to the rest of the nation, though it appears the Libertarian Party is pro-plague like the Republican Party.

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What do they think tourist trap means?

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:29:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:30:18pm

re: #111 darthstar

Just wear your fucking masks, people.

No! I don’t wanna!

- Republicans and Libertarians.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:30:49pm
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:32:59pm

This jerk!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:33:01pm

This thread is crazy
Scenes from all over NYC

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calochortus  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:33:46pm

re: #91 Belafon

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Wait. Slavery advocates argued that women should have bodily autonomy? I’m gonna need a citation on that one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:34:40pm

I’m of two minds about these fascist laws.

On the one hand, it’s appealing to stay and fight for your rights.

On the other hand, in every collapsing nation, the ones most likely to survive are the first ones out.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:36:32pm

re: #119 calochortus

Wait. Slavery advocates argued that women should have bodily autonomy? I’m gonna need a citation on that one.

You’re not supposed to read the Bible if you’re a Christian. You are supposed to follow what your pastor or priest says (hence comparisons in the New Testament itself as a flock of sheep led by a shepherd).

That’s why in Bible tests atheists normally score the best on it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:39:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:39:22pm

Wow, Richard Engel has really committed to the worst possible take on Afghanistan. Continuing tonight. Such a disappointment.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:40:54pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You’re not supposed to read the Bible if you’re a Christian. You are supposed to follow what your pastor or priest says (hence comparisons in the New Testament itself as a flock of sheep led by a shepherd).

That’s why in Bible tests atheists normally score the best on it.

Of course, if the test is on the “Old” Testament, Orthodox Jews would know the answers, especially if they are in Hebrew.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:41:59pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

Wow, Richard Engel has really committed to the worst possible take on Afghanistan. Continuing tonight. Such a disappointment.

I saw his most recent tweet a few minutes ago and honestly muttered “go fuck yourself Engel”

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:42:37pm

Shout It Out Loud.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:42:50pm

re: #117 retired cynic

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:43:15pm

“Unearned consensus” is a pretty apt term worth using more, I think.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:44:22pm
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:48:06pm

Fountainhead Antique Auto Museum
Fairbanks, Alaska
The collection includes seven one-of-a-kind automobiles, vintage fashion, and more.
atlasobscura.com
Our vintage car buffs may need to plan a trip up north.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:48:22pm

re: #80 Hecuba’s daughter

Texas has one of the lowest turnouts in elections of registered voters because of various obstacles that hinder voting. It is quite possible that Texas would be blue today (at least for statewide elections) if not for the deliberate hindrances placed in preventing people from voting. How can you take control and stop them if you are unable to vote and the current SCOTUS approves of these malicious attempts?

A blue wave the likes of which even god has not seen.

Even with the obstacles it can be done. It has been done. Texas is next.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:48:55pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You’re not supposed to read the Bible if you’re a Christian. You are supposed to follow what your pastor or priest says (hence comparisons in the New Testament itself as a flock of sheep led by a shepherd).

That’s why in Bible tests atheists normally score the best on it.

You really enjoy that broad brush don’t you?

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:49:33pm

re: #131 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

A blue wave the likes of which even god has not seen.

Even with the obstacles it can be done. It has been done. Texas is next.

We need a few people like Abrams to just walk around getting everyone registered to vote.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:50:41pm

re: #132 William Lewis

You really enjoy that broad brush don’t you?

The printing press did help break the grip of Catholicism.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:52:42pm

re: #126 DodgerFan1988

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Shout It Out Loud.

That’s interesting. IIRC from the Bush years, Gene Simmons was a flag waving wingnut at the time.

It might have just been a side-effect of a case of ZOMG Muslims! or ZOMG Israel!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2021 • 7:56:10pm

Old (2013) but more relevant than ever:

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:00:00pm

re: #110 mmmirele

Then celebrate the 30th anniversary of the release of Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit” on September 10. (Really!)

It’s my parents’ anniversary. That’ll do. Just worried about the jingoism and chest thumping.

ETA: I never got into Nirvana. I left the country for a couple of years at the end of the 80s when The Replacements were the “last band that mattered” and came back when Nirvana and grunge were the thing. It never took for me.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:04:03pm
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plansbandc  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:04:20pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

I used to really like and respect him. Now he’s dead to me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:04:55pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

Wow, Richard Engel has really committed to the worst possible take on Afghanistan. Continuing tonight. Such a disappointment.

Well, he was the guy who went off to Iraq before that war was launched by Bush because (paraphrasing what he wrote) he could see Bush wanted a war and that would absolutely make his career. He noted a lot of journalists died in that war, but them’s the breaks when you’re trying to make a name for himself.

He is lamenting the death of his career, because he literally doesn’t know anything other than “war correspondent.” (It also doesn’t require a lot of work if you’re not afraid of being shot or blown up.)

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:04:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:05:11pm
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BeachDem  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:05:21pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Old (2013) but more relevant than ever:

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Also old, and also more relevant than ever:

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:09:43pm

re: #135 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

That’s interesting. IIRC from the Bush years, Gene Simmons was a flag waving wingnut at the time.

It might have just been a side-effect of a case of ZOMG Muslims! or ZOMG Israel!

wasn’t he on celebrity apprentice?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:09:48pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

Bruce holding down the rhythm letting Neil do his thing. Why have I not seen this before. Thank you!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:11:04pm

Post-tropical storm Ida has regained tropical storm force winds.

Post-Tropical Cyclone Ida Advisory Number 28
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD AL092021
1100 PM EDT Wed Sep 01 2021

…POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE IDA CONTINUES TO BRING WIDESPREAD HEAVY
RAINFALL AND AREAS OF LIFE THREATENING FLASH FLOODING ALONG AND
NEAR TRACK…
…AN ENHANCED RISK FOR TORNADOES WILL PERSIST ACROSS NORTHEAST NEW
JERSEY, SOUTHERN NEW YORK, AND FAR SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THE
PRE-DAWN HOURS THURSDAY…

SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT…0300 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…40.5N 74.3W
ABOUT 190 MI…300 KM ENE OF HAGERSTOWN MARYLAND
ABOUT 140 MI…225 KM E OF HARRISBURG PENNSYLVANIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…40 MPH…65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NE OR 55 DEGREES AT 28 MPH…44 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…998 MB…29.47 INCHES

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:15:05pm

re: #126 DodgerFan1988

Oh crap, first Ann Coulter and now Gene Simmons says something not batshit crazy?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:19:27pm

re: #127 Belafon

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What is this nonsense showing the “left” taking ketamine? It’s body builders — aren’t they equally likely to be on the right as the left?

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:19:37pm

re: #38 lawhawk

Northern NJ is getting serious rainfall - 5-8 inches out of this event. We’re in the heaviest rain at the moment, and there has been some thunder but the wind has been generally light.

Let’s keep it that way. As it is, the rain is causing flooding all over the region. Flood and weather watches/warnings/emergencies are lighting up the Accuweather screens light a christmas tree.

The remains of Ida are dragging moisture in from the warm Gulf Stream waters to the east. You guys are in the rain shield, but I’m glad the ‘naders have slacked off. That was some nasty shit around Philly/Berlin/Trenton this PM.

Mattand, have been able to get home? How’s the house?

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:21:35pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

Wow, Richard Engel has really committed to the worst possible take on Afghanistan. Continuing tonight. Such a disappointment.

I mentioned this leech earlier. A self-serving sack of poo.

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EPR-radar  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:23:02pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

This is one of the biggest reasons why many of us had such a sinking feeling when Donald Trump was elected, at a time when he would probably be able to install at least one Supreme Court justice. It turned out that he installed three.

Any other Republican president would have done the same — in his judicial picks, Trump was a generic Republican.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:26:16pm

re: #148 Hecuba’s daughter

What is this nonsense showing the “left” taking ketamine? It’s body builders — aren’t they equally likely to be on the right as the left?

Plus the meme implies “the left” is taking drugs for horses. I’m pretty sure that’s a right-wing thing.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:27:37pm
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:27:45pm

re: #148 Hecuba’s daughter

What is this nonsense showing the “left” taking ketamine? It’s body builders — aren’t they equally likely to be on the right as the left?

I won’t be surprised if driftglass doesn’t have has a blog post on Andrew Sullivan being ridiculous and “both sides do it.”

Edited to get my tongue off my eye tooth.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:27:54pm

I feel bad for UM fans on the West Coast. When all is said and done they will have waited three years for the band to come back to their town.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:29:20pm

re: #154 retired cynic

edited for better sense

I hope

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:47:13pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Townhall writer.

And they don’t care how many teachers die.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:50:59pm

Fuck facebook and these bullshit things…


I mean, really? this is pathetic.

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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:52:44pm

re: #158 darthstar

Fuck facebook and these bullshit things…

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I mean, really? this is pathetic.

Purple hays?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:55:32pm

re: #158 darthstar

Fuck facebook and these bullshit things…

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I finally quit today.

I mean, really? this is pathetic.

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:55:55pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’m tempted again to defect from Texas, but I want to stay and fight it out until we turn it blue. This means a lot more than waiting for the immutable force of demographics. The Repugs are pulling out all the stops to retain power even as a shrinking minority. Their every action seems directed toward that goal, and they are getting away with it.

I lived in Texas in ‘79/’80 in Del Rio, where there was a girl behind every tree (insider joke) when I was going to flight school.

I moved back in ‘89 to Austin because of a woman who I hoped had changed and grown up.

Nope, nope, nope. Or maybe it was *me* who hadn’t changed (A bit of therapy revealed that neither one of us had changed and we were still doing the co-dependance tango. So I worked really hard to take the edges off of my innate Meyers-Briggs ENTP designation. I did pretty well.)

I got into politics as a side deal in my off-time as a working field geologist, and worked on two Ann Richards campaigns. She Who Must Be Obeyed went to the LBJ School of Public Affairs with Ellen, Ann’s daughter who lives up the street. Got to know Mollie Ivins through her, who lived the next neighborhood over and was a delightful drinking partner and an absolute Menschette.

Bought our house in “97 down here in Bouldin, in the ‘04 for $152,000 which is now worth north of $1.2 Million. I was President of our Neighborhood Resident’s Association back in the early aught’s when we we put together our Neighborhood Plan (adopted as code).

My neighborhood is one of the most proactive in this City, involved every land-development/wholesale rezoning fight, taco truck friendly, and Section 8 accepting in the City.

You want us to take Afghan refugees? Yes please! Our diversity has been one of our strengths.

So, why should *we* leave? This is our home. Our ‘hood. Our City.

We, as a little blue pimple in Texas, will persist. We will abide. We will fight for justice.

And we, eventually will kick these bigots to the curb. They are losing this fight one funeral at a time.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:56:52pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ketamine has shown some promise in treating severe depression and ptsd. But it’s done in micro doses under the care of a mental health care provider who is qualified to do this. Veterans and survivors of trauma have reported good results in the right settings and under the right care.

I would guess, since wingnuts think mental health issues are a weakness, they also think ketamine is a bullshit cure liberals use just to get high. Or something. Who knows with these stupid fuckmuffins?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:56:58pm

The Texas abortion ban is already being used by McAuliffe in the Virginia Governor race. If the coming rapid ban of abortion in half the states doesn’t energize Democrats to the polls in the midterms, I don’t know what would. I’ll be surprised if the last Kentucky abortion clinic is still open a year from now. news.yahoo.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:57:25pm

Have been watching the CNN reporting — and have to believe that the remake of “Day After Tomorrow” (you know that they will be doing that!) will focus on flooding rather than a new Ice Age.

But have another question based on my ignorance of climate and weather patterns: Could we in the Midwest be struck by such torrential rains from remnants of a hurricane that took a different path?

Also — will this weather catastrophe overtake Afghanistan as the primary news story?

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:58:45pm

re: #158 darthstar

Fuck facebook and these bullshit things…

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I mean, really? this is pathetic.

I spit my wine on the screen.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 8:58:52pm

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Have been watching the CNN reporting — and have to believe that the remake of “Day After Tomorrow” (you know that they will be doing that!) will focus on flooding rather than a new Ice Age.

But have another question based on my ignorance of climate and weather patterns: Could we in the Midwest be struck by such torrential rains from remnants of a hurricane that took a different path?

Also — will this weather catastrophe overtake Afghanistan as the primary news story?

I expect that now that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is complete, it will rapidly fade as a news story.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:00:20pm
But my parents aren’t Iraqi. We’re not from Mosul. My hometown isn’t Raqqa. I was born in Wichita, Kansas, USA. I came of age at the height and heart of the “Abortion Wars”—an all-American terrorism campaign waged in the name Christianity. My childhood saw family friends in Kansas shot by the Army of God in the name of Jesus. Decades later and oceans away from the Great Plains, I would see friends in Syria beheaded by ISIS in the name of God. So from the beginning, remember this: the stories, lessons, and warnings I recount here—I understand them in all their painful complexities: personally, physically, morally, intimately. Viscerally.

Terrorism in the name of religion is as American as apple-pie. (my emphasis) Allow me to follow one cliché with another. “One man’s terrorist is another freedom fighter.”

Have you heard the name John Brown? Born in 1800, the devoutly religious Brown worshipped alongside Frederick Douglass and Sojourner Truth. Far more radical, John Brown was a militant Christian abolitionist in every sense of the term, committed to the overthrow of slavery as an institution, by any means necessary—in his view, armed insurrection. During a period of confrontations known as Bleeding Kansas, which precipitated the American Civil War, John Brown came to Lawrence, Kansas, close to the Missouri border—dividing line between the “free states” and “slave states.” Representations of him are ubiquitous in the college town (my own, in fact) where to this day, several businesses proudly carry the name “Free State.”

(more)

Dr. Amanda E. Rogers: From ISIS to the Abortion Wars: America We Need to Talk

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A Mom Anon  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:00:23pm

re: #166 No Malarkey!

Except when they need a racist story or a feel good story about the new immigrants to the US.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:02:34pm

The Butt, it hurts.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:08:56pm

re: #137 Barefoot Grin

It’s my parents’ anniversary. That’ll do. Just worried about the jingoism and chest thumping.

ETA: I never got into Nirvana. I left the country for a couple of years at the end of the 80s when The Replacements were the “last band that mattered” and came back when Nirvana and grunge were the thing. It never took for me.

7/11 is my best friend’s husband’s birthday so that’s my celebration.

Smells Like Teen Spirit was a cool song to hear on the radio but when a coworker loaned me the CD, I didn’t like it much and I told him I thought it was kind of a dumb band. I’ve come around a bit, but it’s not a band I have to listen to now. I was in my late 30’s when it came out so I had already sobered up and was past my headbanger days (I headbanged to Deep Purple).

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:10:49pm

The Supreme Court has voted not to block the Texas six-week abortion ban.

A collection of cells without a functional brain is more important than a competent human.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:15:46pm

“Smells Like Teen Spirit” is okay. *THIS* is the ultimate Nirvana tune.

Aneurysm

I’ve got a soft spot for Nirvana. I got a copy of “Nevermind” when I was, like, 11 or so. That album was the loudest coolest thing I had ever heard up to that point, and my parents steeped me in all kinds of hard rock from the 60s and 70s.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:15:52pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:15:59pm

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Have been watching the CNN reporting — and have to believe that the remake of “Day After Tomorrow” (you know that they will be doing that!) will focus on flooding rather than a new Ice Age.

But have another question based on my ignorance of climate and weather patterns: Could we in the Midwest be struck by such torrential rains from remnants of a hurricane that took a different path?

Also — will this weather catastrophe overtake Afghanistan as the primary news story?

MN has been doused by hurricane remnants in the past. Not like the east is getting it now, but enough to do some flooding.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:17:22pm

re: #173 No Malarkey!

fuck

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:17:34pm

Tomorrow, Susan Collins will be “concerned”, maybe even “disappointed.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:18:04pm

Smells Like Teen Spirit is Boston’s “More Than A Feeling” sped up.

It’s a brilliant musical joke that just also happens to be face-meltingly good.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:18:48pm

Damn. That was way quicker than I thought. Fuck, man. Roe V. Wade is gone.

The suffering of women who’ll access unsafe abortions will be incalculable.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:19:13pm

re: #169 gocart mozart

They didn’t deny you testing because of your politics, Candace. We would have all wanted to laugh at you after finding out you tested positive.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:20:07pm

re: #177 The Ghost of a Flea

That you know the genius of Kurt Cobain and Co. warms my heart. 🙂

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No Malarkey!  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:20:12pm

re: #175 stpaulbear

fuck

The silver lining is that people will now understand that they can’t rely on the Supreme Court to protect us from fascism while they ignore politics. If they want to regain the freedoms they are about to lose, they will have to get to the polls and vote.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:22:39pm

So the 5 Repubs on the SCOTUS bench just gave every red state the green light to start passing abortion bans next year, making sure they don’t go into force until immediately after the ruling comes down.

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plansbandc  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:25:48pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

I have had terrible breathing problems today. Part of it is the rage I feel over the end of our country.

The confirmation that Roe is dead isn’t improving the problem at all.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:26:46pm

I mean, maybe the Republican shitheads in statehouses will blow their wad too early? They’ll pass all these abortion bans right before a midterm election, right? That will play fucking bloody hell on the body politic.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:27:23pm

re: #176 No Malarkey!

Tomorrow, Susan Collins will be “concerned”, maybe even “disappointed.”

More likely “unavailable”.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:28:50pm

re: #183 plansbandc

I have had terrible breathing problems today. Part of it is the rage I feel over the end of our country.

The confirmation that Roe is dead isn’t improving the problem at all.

I feel for you. I’ve been dealing with headaches off and one thinking of all the assholes I met in 2016 who either didn’t feel like voting or were even okay with Trump winning because they thought that cases like RvW or Obergefell were effectively set in stone and there was no way the courts could possibly overturn them.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:28:58pm

I love this vocal performance by Kurt Cobain, electrifying.

Lounge Act

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:33:22pm

Shadow Docket

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:34:43pm

Roe is effectively dead thanks to five Radical Xtians on the court.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:36:23pm

I’ve had “Come As You Are” stuck in my head off and on for months because of the final scene of For All Mankind’s second season ending:

For All Mankind - Season 2 Final Scene | Apple TV+

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:36:31pm

It’s trite. Kurt Cobain was definitely the first celebrity death that affected me on a human level. I didn’t understand, it made me sad and angry. I was at the very beginning of adolescence. All of it is still very vivid to me, especially as a dude who’s battled depression and suicide ideation.

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austin_blue  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:37:54pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

Damn. That was way quicker than I thought. Fuck, man. Roe V. Wade is gone.

The suffering of women who’ll access unsafe abortions will be incalculable.

Why are you surprised? This is what happens when people don’t vote for their own interests and you get Drumpf instead of Hillary.

Jill Stienists and Bernie Bros just couldn’t pull the handle for Clinton.

I guess they showed us, eh?

Yup, that they did.

Now Roe vs. Wade is rotting road kill on the side of the judicial road, and we are quickly aligning ourselves, judicially, with Poland and Byelorussia.

It’s heartbreaking. It’s pitiful. It’s un-American. it will be the death of our Representative Democracy unless we all stand the fuck up and say NO.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:39:49pm

The radical Xtians on the Court won’t stop with just killing Roe.

Watch what happens when they reverse same sex marriage, contraception, interracial marriage and I would not be surprised if they throw out the 1964 Civil Rights act.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:41:46pm

re: #153 gocart mozart

I remind you: “moderate” Christian supporters came out in droves to support Army of God’s ideology, even as “they” were “pro-life.” Oh, Lord, no—they would never support “killing a doctor,” but maybe “just scaring him.” But one must ask…where is that line in this, the age of ISIS, which demarcates what the counterterrorism community calls “material support?”

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:42:56pm

Hittin’ the road when I wake up in the morning, visiting a close friend up at Torch Lake in Michigan. Will spend the Labor Day Weekend doing stuff one does in northern Michigan, I guess. My friend says boats and motorcycles will be involved. This time tomorrow I should be in some motel in Iowa.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:43:01pm

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I remind you: “moderate” Christian supporters came out in droves to support Army of God’s ideology, even as “they” were “pro-life.” Oh, Lord, no—they would never support “killing a doctor,” but maybe “just scaring him.” But one must ask…where is that line in this, the age of ISIS, which demarcates what the counterterrorism community calls “material support?”

My sister is overjoyed with Roe being overturned. She has prayed for that for years along with my other brainwashed relatives.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:43:28pm

re: #193 JOE 🥓

The radical Xtians on the Court won’t stop with just killing Roe.

Watch what happens when they reverse same sex marriage, contraception, interracial marriage and I would not be surprised if they throw out the 1964 Civil Rights act.

The Libertarian Party is already opposed to the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

Buck v Bell has never been overturned either, so stand by for at least one red state to bring forth a eugenics law.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:43:29pm

re: #192 austin_blue

Why are you surprised? This is what happens when people don’t vote for their own interests and you get Drumpf instead of Hillary.

Jill Stienists and Bernie Bros just couldn’t pull the handle for Clinton.

I guess they showed us, eh?

Yup, that they did.

Now Roe vs. Wade is rotting road kill on the side of the judicial road, and we are quickly aligning ourselves, judicially, with Poland and Byelorussia.

It’s heartbreaking. It’s pitiful. It’s un-American. it will be the death of our Representative Democracy unless we all stand the fuck up and say NO.

Yeah, that’s another infuriating thought for coming days: The same Berners and Red Rose Twitter assholes who came out in 2016 to argue that Trump winning wouldn’t be “that bad” because he said some things on the campaign trail they were deluded enough to believe he meant…now arguing that it’s our fault that he’s borked the country for an entire generation (if not two) because we did not embrace St. Bernie.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:43:51pm

re: #193 JOE 🥓

The radical Xtians on the Court won’t stop with just killing Roe.

Watch what happens when they reverse same sex marriage, contraception, interracial marriage and I would not be surprised if they throw out the 1964 Civil Rights act.

Tonight, I can’t argue with you. Brazen isn’t strong enough.

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plansbandc  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:45:04pm

re: #193 JOE 🥓

And the ADA. R’s hate the disabled too.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:45:23pm

re: #199 retired cynic

Tonight, I can’t argue with you. Brazen isn’t strong enough.

They are going to force a White Xtian Apartheid state on us by any means they can and thanks to those two fucking sellouts Mancin and Sinema nothing will be done to stop them.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:47:19pm

re: #200 plansbandc

And the ADA. R’s hate the disable too.

Ah but we know that Radical Xtians believe that disabled people are cursed by demons…

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:47:27pm
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:48:29pm

Might as well throw out the filibuster (ha, if possible) and pass a national abortion right. Why not?

I know we won’t be able to, but if the reason is so the Republicans can’t use it to destroy laws we have, PFUI, all they have to do is let the shadow docket at the supreme court shut it all down.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:50:42pm

If there is any possible light, it is that they might have just overplayed their hand.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:54:36pm

re: #205 retired cynic

If there is any possible light, it is that they might have just overplayed their hand.

As long as we don’t give up.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:55:02pm

re: #206 Belafon

Never. To the polls.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:55:53pm

re: #169 gocart mozart

The Butt, it hurts.

What the hell is she talking about? The print is too tiny to read.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:55:53pm

IL saw this coming, and passed its own “Roe”. I know other states have. Unless they shadow docket a way to make THAT “unconstitutional.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 9:58:12pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Hittin’ the road when I wake up in the morning, visiting a close friend up at Torch Lake in Michigan. Will spend the Labor Day Weekend doing stuff one does in northern Michigan, I guess. My friend says boats and motorcycles will be involved. This time tomorrow I should be in some motel in Iowa.

If you go by here, wave so I see you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:00:20pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

Yeah, that’s another infuriating thought for coming days: The same Berners and Red Rose Twitter assholes who came out in 2016 to argue that Trump winning wouldn’t be “that bad” because he said some things on the campaign trail they were deluded enough to believe he meant…now arguing that it’s our fault that he’s borked the country for an entire generation (if not two) because we did not embrace St. Bernie.

They’re already doing it. I won’t bother to post their tweets here, but there are a bunch.

All these asshole Christian organisations putting up their bounty hunting Websites really need to have them flooded as hard as possible to make the data useless.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:01:09pm

re: #205 retired cynic

If there is any possible light, it is that they might have just overplayed their hand.

As LGF’s (self-designated) Cynical Bastard, I’m sort of struggling to see how. Maybe in the long term this will hurt them after the midterms if Dems manage to hold Congress and expand their Senate majority by a minimum of 2 seats. But if we lose either or both houses of Congress, then we’re gonna be waiting until at least 2025 before we can begin to work in earnest to undo the damage done tonight.

Realistically, I’d say what we’re going to see for at least the next two years is an increasingly balkanized situation where states feel free to pass or ban basic human rights within their own borders.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:01:34pm

re: #202 JOE 🥓

Ah but we know that Radical Xtians believe that disabled people are cursed by demons…

So said a judge in my divorce case when he made me homeless.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:03:28pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So said a judge in my divorce case when he made me homeless.

I heard the same shit from several Xtian relatives when I contracted rheumatoid arthritis. Asshole brother in law said The Big G would torture me until I surrendered to him…

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:03:32pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

That’s what I mean. That they have REALLY given the majority of Americans something to get out and vote for!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:06:39pm

re: #214 JOE 🥓

I heard the same shit from several Xtian relatives when I contracted rheumatoid arthritis. Asshole brother in law said The Big G would torture me until I surrendered to him…

You and I are pretty much in the same boat, with all our families disowning us because we don’t believe as they.

It isn’t atheists who throw their LGBT or Christian children on the streets or kill them. It is entirely one-way from Christians, while moderates have BS “Coexist” stickers on their cars when the True Believers (tm) have no intent on coexisting with anyone.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:07:10pm

re: #215 retired cynic

That’s what I mean. That they have REALLY given the majority of Americans something to get out and vote for!

I’m cynical enough right now to wonder if, by the time the midterms get here, a majority of Americans will be allowed to vote. Or that their votes will be counted.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:10:34pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

As LGF’s (self-designated) Cynical Bastard, I’m sort of struggling to see how. Maybe in the long term this will hurt them after the midterms if Dems manage to hold Congress and expand their Senate majority by a minimum of 2 seats. But if we lose either or both houses of Congress, then we’re gonna be waiting until at least 2025 before we can begin to work in earnest to undo the damage done tonight.

Realistically, I’d say what we’re going to see for at least the next two years is an increasingly balkanized situation where states feel free to pass or ban basic human rights within their own borders.

Not just that, but we’re already seeing just how many people are willing to hang the Dems dry for ‘not trying hard enough’ and thinking that the only way to teach those goddamn dirty Dems is to withhold their votes and punish them in 2022. All while the GOP will be further emboldened by seeing the pathway to their eternal conservatopia in reach, knowing that institutional power is going to be forever on their side when this shit happens.

EDIT: Typo fix

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:28:14pm

re: #218 Citizen K

Not just that, but we’re already seeing just how many people are willing to hand the Dems dry for ‘not trying hard enough’ and thinking that the only way to teach those goddamn dirty Dems is to withhold their votes and punish them in 2022. All while the GOP will be further emboldened by seeing the pathway to their eternal conservatopia in reach, knowing that institutional power is going to be forever on their side when this shit happens.

EDIT: Typo fix

Repubs go into every election knowing that even some of their worst critics will, at the end of the day, concede that it is better to keep them in office than to allow a Dem to be elected. If they cannot succeed in knocking out a “RINO” in the primaries, then they will get 99% of what they want by voting for them than sitting out the election.

Dems instead work with the handicap that their worst critics will not only never be satisfied, but will actively work to run them out of office right up to Election Day. And then believe that their winning reelection means they “owe” something to those very same critics. Worse, if they win even a single Repub vote on Election Day, they will face endless op-eds in major papers about how they must “moderate” their own views to appease that one Repub.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:29:18pm

re: #218 Citizen K

Not just that, but we’re already seeing just how many people are willing to hand the Dems dry for ‘not trying hard enough’ and thinking that the only way to teach those goddamn dirty Dems is to withhold their votes and punish them in 2022. All while the GOP will be further emboldened by seeing the pathway to their eternal conservatopia in reach, knowing that institutional power is going to be forever on their side when this shit happens.

EDIT: Typo fix

Susan Sarandon never learned from her mistakes in 2000. Some Bernie people I knew voted for Hillary with reluctance but others did Jill Stein. There are idiots who truly believe if things get really bad, that would inspire a true revolution, rather than solidifying a fascist white supremacist regime.

The Trumper fanatics that I know are screaming on FB at how horrible Biden is, what a catastrophe Afghanistan has been, and how you have to be brain dead to support him. I even had an exchange with an imbecile (FOAF) when I challenged his comment that Biden received 70 million votes — I corrected to 81 million and he mocked me. These are the people who will make sure that our democracy dies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:30:57pm

Governor Bullethead promotes the DeSantis experimental treatment on the official state Twitter account.

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mmmirele  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:33:40pm

re: #148 Hecuba’s daughter

What is this nonsense showing the “left” taking ketamine? It’s body builders — aren’t they equally likely to be on the right as the left?

Just to note that ketamine is officially approved by the FDA in a nasal form for treatment of otherwise treatment-resistant depression.

fda.gov

Also, there’s a legal gray area where some psychiatrists have set up practices with ketamine infusions for intractable depression. Ketamine appears to work for some but (a) has to be redone every month or two, (b) are not cheap ($400-$800 per treatment) and (c) not covered by insurance. I casually looked into it because I take a pharmacy (ok, three different meds) to keep chronic major depression in check. The cost of the three meds (covered by insurance) plus the prescriber visit (not covered by insurance because I went off-plan) are significantly less than ketamine. However, if my depression was intractable and not treatable, yeah, I’d look into it more closely.

tl;dr Ketamine has legitimate uses and Sully can STFU.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:34:10pm

I’m not gonna lie: this feels possibly like the bleakest bellwether ever. It really seems to prove that the GOP has the perfect court to ensure that no matter how much they lose, they will always win, and that they will forever own this country no matter how much we do, how much we fight, how much we struggle. Because they own power. They own it all in the end.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:41:06pm

Remember folks. We didn’t want this day to happen, but we feared it would. We also now that the backlash will be fierce. I believe that this will motivate a lot of younger voters (mostly, but not all pro choice). Be positive and work to get out the vote.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:45:33pm

re: #224 I Would Prefer Not To

Remember folks. We didn’t want this day to happen, but we feared it would. We also now that the backlash will be fierce. I believe that this will motivate a lot of younger voters (mostly, but not all pro choice). Be positive and work to get out the vote.

Again, the problems I’m seeing is that I’m seeing a lot of those younger voters being motivated to spite not the GOP who passed this shit, but the Dems for ‘not fighting it’ or not waving a fucking magic wand to stop it all, and instead withhold their votes as if the Dems’ doom will make the case for progressives stronger. Between that, and the general fact that our system seems hardwired to ensure Dems, even when we win, will never have enough time to fix the damage before we’re given the boot for the country’s rightful heirs in the GOP, that it will only get worse, and worse, before it gets even worse, especially with the courts the way they are for at least a generation and a half.

It literally just feels like we’re in quicksand. And the more we fight, the more we just sink because the country is hardwired for arch-conservatism forever now.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:48:15pm

re: #225 Citizen K

Again, the problems I’m seeing is that I’m seeing a lot of those younger voters being motivated to spite not the GOP who passed this shit, but the Dems for ‘not fighting it’ or not waving a fucking magic wand to stop it all, and instead withhold their votes as if the Dems’ doom will make the case for progressives stronger. Between that, and the general fact that our system seems hardwired to ensure Dems, even when we win, will never have enough time to fix the damage before we’re given the boot for the country’s rightful heirs in the GOP, that it will only get worse, and worse, before it gets even worse, especially with the courts the way they are for at least a generation and a half.

It literally just feels like we’re in quicksand. And the more we fight, the more we just sink because the country is hardwired for arch-conservatism forever now.

We are not hardwired. We’ve been programmed. We can defeat this BS.

Our enemies have underestimated us. Abortion is more popular than they are.

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mmmirele  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:50:00pm

re: #224 I Would Prefer Not To

Remember folks. We didn’t want this day to happen, but we feared it would. We also now that the backlash will be fierce. I believe that this will motivate a lot of younger voters (mostly, but not all pro choice). Be positive and work to get out the vote.

It can get worse.

I reflected today that my reproductive life is bookended with Roe v. Wade announced when I was 13 and my last Pap smear done today at age 61. (I still hurt, I’m never getting another Pap for as long as I live.)

What terrifies me is Griswold v. Connecticut (1964) being overturned and birth control becoming an absolute free-for-all disaster.

That said, maybe the way to attack anti-abortion laws is to take them on as imposition of religion under the First Amendment. I honestly don’t know how that would work, but it’s got to be worth a try.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:53:44pm

re: #126 DodgerFan1988

Gene Simmons is an asshole. But in this case, he’s an asshole I find myself in hearty agreement with.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2021 • 10:54:35pm

re: #226 I Would Prefer Not To

We are not hardwired. We’ve been programmed. We can defeat this BS.

Our enemies have underestimated us. Abortion is more popular than they are.

I honest to god hope you’re right. I’m already a pessimist by nature, but the last couple of weeks just have me in a depressive spiral about what this country actually wants and how we can fix anything at this point. Because it feels like the sheer amount of roadblocks are becoming insurmountable, and the country is just forever willing to blame Dems first and foremost for anything while the GOP skates by on everything. I want a fucking light at the end of this tunnel. I want some kind of fucking hope. And all I seem to see is boots to the face.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:13:21pm

re: #185 stpaulbear

More likely “unavailable”.

“Unavailable” because she’ll be too busy furrowing her brow.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:15:35pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Nirvana- Tourette’s (Audio)

IMO, “In Utero” was a better album that “Nevermind”.

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:21:30pm

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

Gene Simmons is an asshole. But in this case, he’s an asshole I find myself in hearty agreement with.

As a performer in one of the world’s most recognizable rock ‘n roll outfits, he obviously sees first hand the devastation covid has had on the live music industry, his response is only appropriate.

Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, and Kid Rock, on the other hand…

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:26:49pm

re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter

Susan Sarandon never learned from her mistakes in 2000. Some Bernie people I knew voted for Hillary with reluctance but others did Jill Stein. There are idiots who truly believe if things get really bad, that would inspire a true revolution, rather than solidifying a fascist white supremacist regime.

Just like the idiots in the GOP who want a civil war so bad it makes their tiny peepees hard, these dirtbag leftists are just as fucking delusional. None of them will end up fighting in it themselves. They will just end up starving and homeless and perhaps up against a wall thanks to the nearest warlord.

The reality is, an actual shooting civil war will potentially collapse western civilization, the whole world economy, and probably lead to a nuclear war as everyone else and their brother gets involved and Russia and China think they have the green light to pursue their foreign policy wish lists with impunity. These fuckers are acting like the grocery stores will still be open and stocked and Amazon will still deliver shit to them.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:27:09pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

As a performer in one of the world’s most recognizable rock ‘n roll outfits, he obviously sees first hand the devastation covid has had on the live music industry, his response is only appropriate.

Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, and Kid Rock, on the other hand…

Absolutely, and he’s certainly been in the business a long time (then again, so has Clapton so I don’t know what the hell is malfunction is). KISS does a lot of touring (much like Iron Maiden) so Gene is perhaps more acutely aware of the impact COVID-19 has had.

Or maybe he’s just a decent guy underneath the asshole exterior - I’ve known people like that in real life, and in the end, they can be counted on to do the right thing.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:29:30pm

re: #233 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

These fuckers are acting like the grocery stores will still be open and stocked and Amazon will still deliver shit to them.

That’s what’s sometimes referred to as a “cozy catastrophe”: en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:31:14pm

In a way I’m glad Umphrey’s McGee had to cancel their shows in Texas next week.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:32:09pm

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

That’s what’s sometimes referred to as a “cozy catastrophe”: en.wikipedia.org

Fits in nice with the Bernie Bro Underpants Gnomes plan for progressivism.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:36:43pm

The American Revolution, the US Civil War, and the Russian Revolution for example were nowhere the mass casualty (like multiple-millions) events that they could have been, because back then 95% of the involved populations were people that lived on or owned farms that they worked on, and got water from a well on or near their property. They didn’t really have to worry about the shipping, transportation, or power distribution infrastructure failing or stores not being open.

In 2021 I’d bet that’s like 1% of the population if that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:42:42pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 1, 2021 • 11:58:04pm

In other depressing news…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:19:05am

Where Ida stands among the worst hurricanes to hit Louisiana (AccuWeather, September 1, 2021)

It depends on how you define “worst.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:29:49am

re: #238 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

The American Revolution, the US Civil War, and the Russian Revolution for example were nowhere the mass casualty (like multiple-millions) events that they could have been, because back then 95% of the involved populations were people that lived on or owned farms that they worked on, and got water from a well on or near their property. They didn’t really have to worry about the shipping, transportation, or power distribution infrastructure failing or stores not being open.

In 2021 I’d bet that’s like 1% of the population if that.

And a lot of conservative rural people are convinced they are part of that 1%.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:32:35am

Got an alert on my phone a few hours ago. Evacuation order for people living along Pickering Creek in Montgomery County.

(Northwest of Philadelphia. The creek is a tributary of the Schuylkill River that enters it a little ways north of Valley Forge.)

I can only surmise that there is concern about the dam on the creek since there is a reservoir there.

Edit:
That appears correct since I found a website saying that the evac there was for downstream of the dam.
msn.com

Also calling for evacuations in places along the Delaware River (Yardley). And the Schuylkill River itself is supposed to hit 6’ over major flood stage today in Center City.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:34:26am

Tropical Storm Larry, now at 30W, should become a hurricane within twelve hours. It is expected to rapidly grow and become a major hurricane by Friday evening. It is too early to tell if it will be a threat to Bermuda.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:35:44am

bbc has an article “fact checking” Biden’s speech.

All well and good but how about an article “fact checking” all the baseless claims being made about Biden and Afghanistan?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:40:30am

re: #242 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And a lot of conservative rural people are convinced they are part of that 1%.

I’m not conservative, but I can point out a few things.

We routinely do without electricity, telephone service, or Internet service here.
Although I don’t hunt, I do know how, and I can dress animals and birds (and regularly do so since hunters give us stuff here).
Reopening our well would be trivial. We also have the Beerline Canal less than a block from my house to draw water from (though it would definitely need filtering and heating to clean).
Raising chickens would be trivial for me.
We still have a public library; the books wouldn’t magically disappear. The Firefox series of books would be very helpful in learning skills we do not have.
We have the space to grow food. Apartment and condo dwellers in cities do not.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:40:53am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A zucchini is headed directly for Bermuda!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:43:49am

Wow, Margaret Atwood really called it during the Reagan Administration, didn’t she? The only part she seems to have gotten wrong so far is the initial insurrection which killed Congress (and the January 6 folks certainly tried).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:44:46am

re: #242 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And a lot of conservative rural people are convinced they are part of that 1%.

Think about the main reason for being armed to the teeth, so they can go out and obtain what they need to survive and/or defended it against others.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:46:01am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Think about the main reason for being armed to the teeth, so they can go out and obtain what they need to survive and/or defended it against others.

Ammunition and liquor would become the currency of the realm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:47:11am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:47:32am

re: #250 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ammunition and liquor would become the currency of the realm.

And Invermectin

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:49:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:51:03am

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I invite you all to read this incredibly powerful, now 17-yo memoir on what it was like before Roe v Wade was passed. This is what the GOP wants for women in every state:

This is just the start: next they will work on banning contraceptives.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:57:57am

Some good news on Covid-19 breakthrough infections.

In the Lancet study, researchers in the United Kingdom analyzed data from a project called the ZOE Covid Study, where users report symptoms, vaccination status and other demographic information daily via an app.

The researchers looked at data collected on more than 1 million people from December 2020 through July 2021, a period that spanned both the alpha and delta variant waves in the U.K. Participants received two doses of either the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccine.

Overall, less than 0.2 percent of the participants reported a breakthrough infection, with such cases more likely in people already considered to be vulnerable, including older adults or people with underlying illnesses.

When breakthrough infections did occur, most were mild — just 6 percent of people with breakthrough infections reported symptoms. What’s more, vaccination was shown to cut the risk of hospitalization by more than two-thirds. ?!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:58:44am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not conservative, but I can point out a few things.

We routinely do without electricity, telephone service, or Internet service here.
Although I don’t hunt, I do know how, and I can dress animals and birds (and regularly do so since hunters give us stuff here).
Reopening our well would be trivial. We also have the Beerline Canal less than a block from my house to draw water from (though it would definitely need filtering and heating to clean).
Raising chickens would be trivial for me.
We still have a public library; the books wouldn’t magically disappear. The Firefox series of books would be very helpful in learning skills we do not have.
We have the space to grow food. Apartment and condo dwellers in cities do not.

I don’t wish to engage on this deeply (at least at this time.) But, barring a relatively short outage of power, transportation, etc. how quickly do things start getting dicey for a chunk of the rural population once these things are gone? e.g. how easily can farms and such move back to older methods if there isn’t fuel and parts available? Are there sufficient seeds, generators, etc. to provide for clean water, medical needs, etc.

Yes, cities will be messed up by such a catastrophe much sooner than lower population density rural areas. That is to be expected since the cities are pretty much totally dependent on the advanced technology, established infrastructure, and so forth.

But how readily will the rural populations get back to “basics” as compared to a decent number adjusting or competing for the resources that facilitate that process? And I also doubt that as many of these people are educated and “ready” to make those adjustments as think they are.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:01:13am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Think about the main reason for being armed to the teeth, so they can go out and obtain what they need to survive and/or defended it against others.

Doesn’t help when no one else has anything to take. Having guns isn’t going to magically create a bunch of food around you to raid.

The same idiots that think gold will be worth something in a collapse.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:01:29am

re: #256 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

There will be a big demand for oxen and plow blades.

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Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:06:06am

re: #233 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Just like the idiots in the GOP who want a civil war so bad it makes their tiny peepees hard, these dirtbag leftists are just as fucking delusional. None of them will end up fighting in it themselves. They will just end up starving and homeless and perhaps up against a wall thanks to the nearest warlord.

The reality is, an actual shooting civil war will potentially collapse western civilization, the whole world economy, and probably lead to a nuclear war as everyone else and their brother gets involved and Russia and China think they have the green light to pursue their foreign policy wish lists with impunity. These fuckers are acting like the grocery stores will still be open and stocked and Amazon will still deliver shit to them.

The far ends of the spectrum both have revolution fantasies, and both fantasies are ridiculously simplistic and devoid of realism.

The far-left keeps believing that their “revolution” will play out in one of two ways: Either voters will get so fed up things just getting progressively worse that they’ll march to the ballot box in such numbers that it’s impossible to prevent their candidates from winning or that those same people will just bypass the ballot box and march in vast numbers to the seats of power in this nation and force elected officials to address their grievances.

By contrast, the far-right think their own “revolution” will play out in a fairly straight-forward way: Millions of “patriots” will take up arms and take the government by force. In their fantasy, LEO and the Armed Forces will either choose to join the “patriots” in their fight or will simply lay down their arms and refuse to fight. Basically, 1/6 was a bit of a dry run for this “revolution,” hence why there was and is still a lot of animosity between the MAGAts and the LEO who either stayed at their posts or even actively tried to stop the invasion of the Capital.

But the biggest fantasy of all? That when these “revolutions” occur, they’ll achieve 100% of their goals and America will look exactly like what they want instead of turning into anything between a military dictatorship and an authoritarian oligarchy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:11:19am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I invite you all to read this incredibly powerful, now 17-yo memoir on what it was like before Roe v Wade was passed. This is what the GOP wants for women in every state:

This is just the start: next they will work on banning contraceptives.

Anti-abortionists have already said they want Griswold and Eisenstadt overturned.

This is entirely a Christian assault on rights. As noted above, it’s why Dr. Tiller’s relation saw so-called moderate and liberal Christians at protests at his clinic: They simply wanted to “scare” him or convince him of his amorality. All of it was terrorism against him and others like him. The difference is only the degree to which a Christian is willing to go to defend impose their faith. Some simply assert you are immoral or going to hell, others firebomb your business or shoot you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:16:28am

re: #259 Targetpractice

But the biggest fantasy of all? That when these “revolutions” occur, they’ll achieve 100% of their goals and America will look exactly like what they want instead of turning into anything between a military dictatorship and an authoritarian oligarchy.

Which is why they idolize Putin’s Russia: authoritarian, oligarchic, xenophobic, homophobic, patriarchal, militaristic and theocratic. Only difference would be Fundamentalist Protestant theocratic rather than Russian Orthodox.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:17:10am

re: #256 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Mostly, the death rate goes way up.

Back in the XIX Century, if you broke your foot you had a good chance of dying. You couldn’t do things like hunt or plough. Childhood diseases took the lives of many children just for one to become an adult. Life was brutal and frequently short.

The Great Depression caused the loss of a lot of farms because they were heavily indebted to eastern banks, plus problems with the gold standard.

If you had a general collapse of society, banks aren’t going to be a problem, and someone with a whole section of land will no longer need to farm the whole thing to feed a single family.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:24:18am

O.T.

I went for a 35 mile ride today and when I got home my odometer read 998 miles. damn, just short of a nice round number. I absolutely had to go out after dinner to get that last 2 miles. The fog was blowing in over the east bay hills and the temperature dropped to 60 degrees. A thermal top under my shirt didn’t quite prevent the cold from biting through my clothing, but I got 1001 miles in under 14 weeks (71.5 miles per week) and I still have 3 more days and a full battery. I should be able to bring that up to 75 miles a week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:28:28am

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mostly, the death rate goes way up.

Back in the XIX Century, if you broke your foot you had a good chance of dying. You couldn’t do things like hunt or plough. Childhood diseases took the lives of many children just for one to become an adult. Life was brutal and frequently short.

And that was part of the hideous reasoning behind the lack of safety measures: sure it’s risky work but without it he’d starve to death anyway!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:29:35am

Joe Biden ‘holds grudges’ and will punish Britain for Afghanistan criticism, allies say (a load of crap from The Telegraph, Nick Allen, Washington editor, August 29, 2021)

Joe Biden “will remember” comments about his mental acuity emanating from senior figures in the UK, and will “bear a grudge” against Britain, sources told the Telegraph.

It came after Cabinet insiders were quoted as suggesting the US president “looked gaga” and described him as “doolally” in the wake of the fall of Kabul.

“The Brits have their view. But they should be careful. What’s been said is offensive and he will remember it. He actually has a long memory,” a US source told the Telegraph.

“It’s always been his way that if somebody says something really bad to him, or about him, he doesn’t speak to them again. He does bear grudges. Boris Johnson should know that.”

(more)

“Doolally” is British slang for “deranged” or “feebleminded.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:29:49am

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mostly, the death rate goes way up.

Back in the XIX Century, if you broke your foot you had a good chance of dying. You couldn’t do things like hunt or plough. Childhood diseases took the lives of many children just for one to become an adult. Life was brutal and frequently short.

The Great Depression caused the loss of a lot of farms because they were heavily indebted to eastern banks, plus problems with the gold standard.

If you had a general collapse of society, banks aren’t going to be a problem, and someone with a whole section of land will no longer need to farm the whole thing to feed a single family.

At the same time, if there were a general collapse of society, you’d probably be under strain just to farm enough to feed your family. Societal collapse means the collapse of stable currencies and mediums of exchange, replaced with bartering and exchanging labor for goods. Stockpiles of processed goods will quickly dwindle as supply chains break apart, how quickly they’re depleted depending upon whether or not somebody imposes rationing. That includes refined fuels like gasoline and diesel, as even those refineries that don’t shut down will likely lack means to move their end products to market.

You’re talking tight margins dependent upon raw manpower, a scenario that’s rife for immediate failure if one or more of those in the household suddenly injure themselves or develop an illness that requires more than just a day or two of bed rest.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:36:24am

re: #266 Targetpractice

In the XIX Century due to the shortage of specie on the High Plains, barter was the norm for everyday trade.

Preservation of food has existed for centuries, whether drying, canning, salting, &c.

As for the raw manpower falling apart in the event of injury or illness of a family member, that’s the “brutal and short” part.

Small communities will still work together as they always have, but it is likely they would revert to very rigid heirarchies of who’s in charge, who’s not, and who’s shunned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:45:18am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Doolally” is British slang for “deranged” or “feebleminded.”

Seems that Doolally was a harbo(u)r in India where discharged British soldiers would go to wait for the next transport ship back home.

It was often a long wait, and they had nothing to do but drink (they had usually just received a large sum of back pay) and cope with their PTSD…and slowly go “doolally”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:45:58am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Small communities will still work together as they always have, but it is likely they would revert to very rigid heirarchies of who’s in charge, who’s not, and who’s shunned.

Because it is “Biblical”…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:47:43am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it is “Biblical”…

Well, there’s that. When God is on your side and all that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:50:03am

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, there’s that. When God is on your side and all that.

They just love them some nomadic goatherder Patriarchy…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:50:20am
LINCOLN — Gov. Pete Ricketts announced Wednesday that the state is bringing back a transfer center to help overstretched Nebraska hospitals find places to send patients.

The move is aimed at helping hospitals cope with a new wave of COVID-19 patients, driven by the spread of the delta variant.

Angie Ling, incident commander with the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services, said the center will help relieve some of the stress on hospital staff by taking over the job of making call after call for an available bed.

“Our medical staff are hurting something fierce right now,” she said.

At a press briefing, Ling said Nebraska’s larger hospitals are seeing occupancy rates of 85% to 100% on a daily basis, between COVID patients and people with other types of health problems.

(more)

Gov. Ricketts announces Nebraska will bring back hospital transfer center (Omaha World-Herald, September 1, 2021)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 1:55:44am

Nebraska vaccine refusnik dies.

He contracted Covid-19 in mid-May, was hospitalised in June, and died Monday.

He appeared on television in Omaha just before he died, urging people to get vaccinated.

Mike Leick, who was a controller for Marathon Ventures, was in good health before he became ill. He didn’t really like to go to the doctor and had never been hospitalized, said another of his daughters, Erin Leick of Omaha.

But during his second doctor’s visit this spring, his physician told him he needed to go to a hospital. He drove himself to Creighton University Medical Center-Bergan Mercy, stopping to catch his breath on the walk from his car to the emergency room doors. He was admitted June 1.

On his third day in the hospital, Amber Leick said, her father mentioned that he regretted not getting vaccinated. He had been researching the vaccines, and his boss and a friend had been working to change his mind about them. He told his family he felt he would have gotten the shots eventually.

“He just wanted to make sure he had all the information and it didn’t go against his core beliefs as a person,” Amber Leick said.

All five of his children have been vaccinated.

(more)

Family of Omahan who died of COVID asks people to get vaccinated in his memory (September 1, 2021)

Leick’s lungs were damaged beyond recovery, his relatives said, and he chose to stop the oxygen support that had been keeping him alive.

Mr. Leick was sixty-five.

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EPR-radar  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:05:00am

re: #273 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“He just wanted to make sure he had all the information and it didn’t go against his core beliefs as a person,”

is fractally stupid. Not even one person in a thousand is actually qualified to intelligently assess primary information about the vaccine’s risks and benefits.

And WTF is this nonsense about “core beliefs”? That ‘concern’ is probably some anti-abortion stupidity about dead babies from abortions being used to make vaccines.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:07:11am

re: #274 EPR-radar

Everybody is entitled to express their opinion - except the experts who have studied and worked with a topic all their lives because they are elitists with an agenda or tools of the Big State/Soros Mind-Control Conspiracy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:08:30am

re: #274 EPR-radar

“He just wanted to make sure he had all the information and it didn’t go against his core beliefs as a person,”

is fractally stupid. Not even one person in a thousand is actually qualified to intelligently assess primary information about the vaccine’s risks and benefits.

And WTF is this nonsense about “core beliefs”? That ‘concern’ is probably some anti-abortion stupidity about dead babies from abortions being used to make vaccines.

Further down the article, it says he will have a Mass of Christian Burial at St. Francis of Assisi Church in Omaha, indicating he is a Catholic. In addition, Creighton University is a Catholic private college.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:10:42am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Further down the article, it says he will have a Mass of Christian Burial at St. Francis of Assisi Church in Omaha, indicating he is a Catholic. In addition, Creighton University is a Catholic private college.

Did Pope Francis not come out in favor of the vaccine?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:12:04am
Merck and Pfizer both announced the start of trials to test oral antiviral medications targeting Covid-19 on Wednesday, highlighting a growing interest in the market for therapeutics for the coronavirus.

Pfizer ‘s (ticker: PFE) trial is a Phase 2/3 study of an oral antiviral known as PF-07321332 in symptomatic adult Covid-19 patients who aren’t hospitalized and aren’t at risk of progressing to severe illness. The trial is in addition to one the company began in July, testing the same drug in nonhospitalized patients who are at risk of progressing to severe illness.

Merck (MRK), meanwhile, along with its partner the private company Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, announced the start of a Phase 3 trial of its oral antiviral molnupiravir as a post-exposure prophylaxis for patients who live in the same household as a person with symptomatic Covid-19.

The wave of Covid-19 therapeutic trials comes amid a growing consensus that the virus that causes Covid-19 isn’t going away, and that the disease will continue to pose some level of threat for the foreseeable future. That could create a substantial market for Covid-19 therapeutics, which have so far received little attention in comparison to the vaccines.

(more at Barron’s September 1, 2021)

Cue the Big Pharma derp. And all of this could have been avoided at the beginning.

Merck and Pfizer Are Testing Antiviral Pills. The Covid Battle Is Moving Beyond Vaccines.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:17:26am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Pope Francis not come out in favor of the vaccine?

Yes, he did.

The Archdiocese of Omaha also came out in favour of vaccines, but with a weaker statement than they could have.

Catholics have raised a number of questions regarding the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines for COVID-19.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and U.S. bishops have made it clear that it is morally acceptable to receive Covid-19 vaccines that have used cell lines from aborted fetuses in their research and production process if there are no other available vaccines comparable in safety and efficacy with no connection to abortion.

If it is possible to choose among a number of equally safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines, the vaccine with the least connection to abortion-derived cell lines should be chosen. If a vaccine with no connection to abortion-derived cell lines is not readily available, vaccines that used such cell lines only for testing would be preferable to those that use such cell lines for ongoing production. Such choices may not be possible, however, especially in the early stages of vaccine distribution.

(more)


COVID-19 Vaccines—Resources and Guidance on Ethical Questions
(Archdiocese of Omaha Website)

That little dodge in there: “Such choices may not be possible … in the early stages of vaccine distribution” is needlessly confusing and could induce doubt or delay in a Christian who takes his science cues from an archbishop over a physician.

I suspect that’s where this guy’s doubt and delay came from.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:17:43am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Pope Francis not come out in favor of the vaccine?

Language was just short of mandatory. In 1950’s the catechism would have described stupid endangerment of life/health as a violation of the 5th Commandment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:19:53am

Chucking a dead cat in the kitty chasm…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:20:32am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more at Barron’s September 1, 2021)

Cue the Big Pharma derp. And all of this could have been avoided at the beginning.

Merck and Pfizer Are Testing Antiviral Pills. The Covid Battle Is Moving Beyond Vaccines.

They just need to market it as horse wormer and the battle is won…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:21:30am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The statement is further weakened by the number of times they tossed in “aborted foetal cell lines.”

Christians have been trained for decades to recoil at those words. Repeating them in the statement intended to make a moral case for vaccination is weakened by that.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:46:39am

JFC, my refrigerator just made a new strange noise, totally unlike the 100 other weird noises it makes. Most refrigerators make only 4-5 noises total, not this one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:52:01am

re: #284 Dread Pirate Ron

JFC, my refrigerator just made a new strange noise, totally unlike the 100 other weird noises it makes. Most refrigerators make only 4-5 noises total, not this one.

I had an old Soviet-era fridge in my Moscow apartment that used to make noises like an Ilyushin-86 taking off

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:55:31am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I had an old Soviet-era fridge in my Moscow apartment that used to make noises like an Ilyushin-86 taking off

This is a modern Samsung French-door. It has all sorts of devices inside that deal with the ice, water, dehumidifier, defroster. This thing even farts some times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 2:58:44am

re: #286 Dread Pirate Ron

This is a modern Samsung French-door. It has all sorts of devices inside that deal with the ice, water, dehumidifier, defroster. This thing even farts some times.

Mine had none of that but it was probably 25 years old and still kicking…

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:06:15am

re: #10 ckkatz

Unfortunately, the rightwing SCOTUS might not agree. The fact that they did nothing to enjoin the law from going into effect suggests that they’re okay with it. In red states, Roe v Wade is for all intents and purposes dead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:16:25am

Post-Tropical Cyclone Ida Advisory Number 29
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD AL092021
500 AM EDT Thu Sep 02 2021

…POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE IDA NEAR EASTERN LONG ISLAND NOW
ACCELERATING NORTHEASTWARD TOWARD CAPE COD…
…WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CONTINUE TO WIND DOWN FROM
WEST TO EAST TODAY ACROSS EASTERN NEW ENGLAND…

SUMMARY OF 500 AM EDT…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…41.4N 71.6W
ABOUT 25 MI…40 KM NE OF MONTAUK POINT NEW YORK
ABOUT 130 MI…210 KM ENE OF NEW YORK CITY
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…40 MPH…65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NE OR 50 DEGREES AT 28 MPH…44 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…998 MB…29.47 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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Flood and Flash Flood Watches continue across portions of
southern New England.

Tornado Watches are in effect for portions of Rhode Island
and Southeast Massachusetts.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:19:10am

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:29:57am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:35:55am
ATLANTA (WGCL) - An 18-year-old student-athlete was trapped and crushed when an elevator in an Atlanta apartment building fell, taking him down with it.

JauMarcus McFarland, 18, died Tuesday afternoon in a tragic elevator incident at a student housing building in Atlanta. The football player was a student at Champion Prep Academy, a program that bridges the gap between high school and college for athletes hoping for scholarships.

Warning: This article contains disturbing details that may be upsetting to readers.

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18-year-old killed when elevator falls, crushing him (NBC Scottsbluff, Nebr.)

One building resident says she’s been complaining about the elevators and took a picture of the inspection certificate last month in case something ever happened. The certificate shows that the last inspection was August 2019, and one was due August 2020.

Property manager Nathan Phillips released a statement saying the elevator was not due for its five-year inspection until 2024 and had been serviced as recently as last week. He also claimed that sixteen students were on the elevator at the same time, exceeding its weight limit, and that the elevator remains closed until further notice.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:36:37am

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately, the rightwing SCOTUS might not agree. The fact that they did nothing to enjoin the law from going into effect suggests that they’re okay with it. In red states, Roe v Wade is for all intents and purposes dead.

Oh, no, it gets better. According to CNN this morning, The Court has officially decided to allow the law to stand.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:45:41am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:53:21am

I predict riots.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:54:23am

re: #293 Dopamine Fish

Oh, no, it gets better. According to CNN this morning, The Court has officially decided to allow the law to stand.

This is a rewrite of the earlier reporting on what happened, that the court would not enjoin the law.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:55:19am

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is a rewrite of the earlier reporting on what happened, that the court would not enjoin the law.

It looks like, as opposed to their silence yesterday, there was a formal 5-4 decision (Roberts joining with the three liberal justices) in explicitly denying the request for an injunction. That’s my understanding as to the difference.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:57:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:58:45am

re: #295 Dread Pirate Ron

I predict riots.

The government and Brexit supporters are still falling back on the excuses that shortages stem from the Covid epidemic and the EU being intransigent.

Odd that Northern Ireland, which lies outside the Brexited Zone, is not experiencing any of those problems…

But nonehtheless, they will cling to those arguments long after they have been repeatedly disproven

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 3:59:27am

re: #297 Dopamine Fish

It looks like, as opposed to their silence yesterday, there was a formal 5-4 decision (Roberts joining with the three liberal justices) in explicitly denying the request for an injunction. That’s my understanding as to the difference.

Plus Roberts gets to hold his position as a “reasonable conservative,” knowing the others provide cover for him.

Roberts is being reported as “voting with the liberals” without any other context.

The cowards who voted not to enjoin the law did not even bother to sign their decision.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:00:47am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The government and Brexit supporters are still falling back on the excuses that shortages stem from the Covid epidemic and the EU being intransigent.

Odd that Northern Ireland, which lies outside the Brexited Zone, is not experiencing any of those problems…

But nonehtheless, they will cling to those arguments long after they have been repeatedly disproven

Of course they will cling to them. Conservatism is a religion. No amount of facts can change their faith.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:02:16am

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Did he also build his own personal Chevy?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:04:25am

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus Roberts gets to hold his position as a “reasonable conservative,” knowing the others provide cover for him.

Roberts is being reported as “voting with the liberals” without any other context.

The cowards who voted not to enjoin the law did not even bother to sign their decision.

Because it’s unconstitutional and they know it. They even explicitly said, in the decision, that there were valid challenges to the constitutionality of the law, but that they were literally just chickening out of making a decision right now, so please come back again in a formal appeal after the law has been in force for days/weeks/months and we’ve created the maximum amount of chaos.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:06:55am

re: #103 Belafon

PSG,WSP…

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steve_davis  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:07:39am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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nothing a south carolina redneck couldn’t fix with a trash bag taped in the window and the blades off a ceiling fan.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:09:26am

re: #303 Dopamine Fish

Because it’s unconstitutional and they know it. They even explicitly said, in the decision, that there were valid challenges to the constitutionality of the law, but that they were literally just chickening out of making a decision right now, so please come back again in a formal appeal after the law has been in force for days/weeks/months and we’ve created the maximum amount of chaos.

With anti-abortion groups across the country setting up tip lines already to make money off this, it won’t be long before some wingnut brings a case in civil court.

The next step would be to challenge the law after a suit is filed. I don’t foresee the court striking down the six-week portion, instead narrowly ruling that individual actions by a third party cannot be brought. They could also rule in that singular case an action cannot be brought, requiring repeated cases.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:12:28am

I worked with an Afghani woman. She was educated under the Soviet occupation and her family left during the revolution. She had nothing nice to say about the Pashtuns.

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steve_davis  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:15:15am

re: #166 No Malarkey!

I expect that now that the withdrawal from Afghanistan is complete, it will rapidly fade as a news story.

I’m pretty sure hurricanes coming off the gulf always spin off to the east. even a hurricane coming up through houston would then spin out towards tennessee and parts east. probably they see dry plains in the midwest and the rocky mountains and say, “Hell no, going to tennessee!”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:19:02am

The thought crossed my mind this morning that, as we are watching the religious wingnuts’ end-game scenario play out live, I wonder: What are they going to do now? They’re getting everything they ever dreamed of. This is the culmination of everything they have worked for for over half a century. Where do they go from here? Oh, I’m sure there’ll be the usual calls to repetition, “Make sure you keep voting Republican to keep those evil Satanic communist liberals from repealing your right to a Christian America,” but I wonder: Is that really going to motivate anyone anymore? They won. It’s over. Could it be the end of them?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:22:49am

re: #309 Dopamine Fish

The thought crossed my mind this morning that, as we are watching the religious wingnuts’ end-game scenario play out live, I wonder: What are they going to do now? They’re getting everything they ever dreamed of. This is the culmination of everything they have worked for for over half a century. Where do they go from here? Oh, I’m sure there’ll be the usual calls to repetition, “Make sure you keep voting Republican to keep those evil Satanic communist liberals from repealing your right to a Christian America,” but I wonder: Is that really going to motivate anyone anymore? They won. It’s over. Could it be the end of them?

They’ll move on to the next mountain. That will probably be the christianization or destruction of secular public education.

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steve_davis  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:23:24am

re: #183 plansbandc

I have had terrible breathing problems today. Part of it is the rage I feel over the end of our country.

The confirmation that Roe is dead isn’t improving the problem at all.

if it’s any consolation, this just gave democrats in the senate and the president the green light an excellent excuse to load the supreme court.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:25:34am

re: #311 steve_davis

if it’s any consolation, this just gave democrats in the senate and the president the green light an excellent excuse to load the supreme court.

They still won’t do it. It’s not the Democrats’ fault in the abstract; I have no doubt they would, if they could. It’s the fault of those “principled conservatives” who are nominally in the party, who feel that maintaining the history of our august institutions is more important than saving the Republic. As of this moment, the United States is neither a democracy nor a republic; it is a plutocracy ruled by the political minority.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:28:13am

The Satanic Temple, after their case trying to overturn a medically unnecessary restrictive abortion law in Missouri failed when the Supreme Court turned them away, is trying a new approach in the wake of the Texas law. A prior case against Texas’s mandatory sonogram law is still ongoing.

Satanists Demand the FDA Give Them Access to Abortion Drugs for Religious Rituals (Friendly Atheist)

They argue to the FDA that they should be given the drugs on the grounds of religious freedom, noting they already have approved medical uses. They also note the FDA already gives a religious exemption for a drug with no approved uses, peyote (schedule I), for Native Americans. They note rejecting the application would set up the government for a religious discrimination case, and will take the FDA to court in sixty days if they don’t rule in favour of The Satanic Temple.

The Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy is a substantial burden on the Satanic Temple’s Satanic Abortion Ritual, which requires a physician’s evaluation before proceeding with the ritual.

If the FDA fails to respond or rejects the demand, the Satanic Temple then intends to bring a Religious Freedom Restoration Act lawsuit against the FDA or any other government agency which opposes them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:28:57am

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Of course they will cling to them. Conservatism is a religion. No amount of facts can change their faith.

Brexit is a cult unto itself

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:29:20am

re: #302 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Did he also build his own personal Chevy?

Wasn’t dry enough

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:29:42am

It’s easy to overstate the situation. Roe isn’t dead, and a real USSC case will be heard by next Summer, if not sooner. Texas women are going to take the brunt until then, though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:30:16am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

They’ll move on to the next mountain. That will probably be the christianization or destruction of secular public education.

and banning contraception

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:33:17am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and banning contraception

Not much push for that, even among married Catholics. They’d much rather have vouchers to support resurrected parish schools.

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Nojay UK  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:33:55am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The government and Brexit supporters are still falling back on the excuses that shortages stem from the Covid epidemic and the EU being intransigent.

There’s a significant shortage of Heavy Goods Vehicle (HGV) drivers in the UK at the moment which is causing problems getting goods from warehouses, farms, packing plants etc. to stores. The press tell us that about 100,000 licenced drivers from eastern and central Europe have left the country since the Brexit vote and this is having knock-on effects in deliveries and distribution of pretty much everything. COVID-19 has reduced the numbers of new trainee HGV drivers and the licencing of those trainees that have passed the requisite tests, essential medical examinations of licence-holders are backlogged etc.

One news story today was that an HGV driver had arrived at his dispatch centre to discover he had been given an immediate pay rise of seven quid an hour, unasked because his employers were desperate to keep him (that’s about 10 bucks US). He appreciates the pay rise, wonders why it didn’t come earlier and he’s planning to leave the industry to start a consultancy anyway.

The UK government is thrashing around trying to band-aid this problem with the idea of using Army HGV drivers for essential deliveries such as medical supplies to hospitals as well as relaxing the restrictions on driving hours and break-times for civilian drivers which will, of course, rack up a body count in accidents.

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William Lewis  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:34:49am

re: #311 steve_davis

if it’s any consolation, this just gave democrats in the senate and the president the green light an excellent excuse to load the supreme court.

There are two people who will prevent that from happening.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:37:11am

re: #117 retired cynic

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:46:46am

re: #229 Citizen K

I honest to god hope you’re right. I’m already a pessimist by nature, but the last couple of weeks just have me in a depressive spiral about what this country actually wants and how we can fix anything at this point. Because it feels like the sheer amount of roadblocks are becoming insurmountable, and the country is just forever willing to blame Dems first and foremost for anything while the GOP skates by on everything. I want a fucking light at the end of this tunnel. I want some kind of fucking hope. And all I seem to see is boots to the face.

Just remember a solid majority voted Trump out of office last November. We have the numbers on our side, and, if they come out to vote, we will win. The closing of all the abortion clinics in half the states should promote a massive backlash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:50:02am

re: #322 No Malarkey!

Just remember a solid majority voted Trump out of office last November. We have the numbers on our side, and, if they come out to vote, we will win. The closing of all the abortion clinics in half the states should promote a massive backlash.

But it was an uncomfortably close-run thing.

The GOP is all about bucking the numbers to stay in power.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:50:43am

re: #321 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2021 • 4:51:39am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But it was an uncomfortably close-run thing.

The GOP is all about bucking the numbers to stay in power.

All in all, we’re only two points behind.

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jeffreyw  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:00:29am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:10:31am

The Christian illness count continues to climb in Illinois:

Illinois church camp that didn’t require vaccinations or masks linked to as many as 180 Covid cases, CDC says (NBC News, September 1, 2021)

An Illinois church summer camp and men’s conference in June has been linked to 180 confirmed and probable Covid-19 cases, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Tuesday.

The camp and conference did not require attendees to be vaccinated, tested or masked, the CDC reported, and the high rate of transmission was likely to have been driven by the delta variant of the coronavirus.

The report, published in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, found that as of Aug. 13, a five-day overnight summer camp and a two-day men’s conference, both sponsored by a church, had led to 180 confirmed and probable cases identified by contact tracers.

The Chicago Tribune reported that the camp outbreak occurred at the Crossing Camp in Rushville, in central Illinois, about 70 miles southwest of Peoria.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:13:42am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They do not say how many of the Christian plague vectors who were unvaccinated required hospital.

Of all 180 cases, 29, or 16.1 percent, occurred in fully vaccinated people, none of whom required hospitalization, the CDC said.

Of the 31 samples that were genetically sequenced, 87 percent were identified as the delta variant, 10 percent were identified as the alpha variant, and 3 percent — one case — was identified as the gamma variant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:16:15am

We are well on our way to the Omega Variant: 100% lethal and transmissible by sight…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:17:37am

An NBC analysis indicates that the Texas law allows a rapist to sue anyone who assists his victim in obtaining an abortion.

There is one thing about the “no rape or incest” exception which is consistent with the Christian “all foetuses are sacred” mantra. If all foetuses are sacred, so are those which are products of rape and incest.

I’ve predicted for a long time since Ronald Reagan that Christianity would eventually move to justify rape and incest.

Let’s see how many church sects speak out against this (my guess would be close to zero).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:21:19am

As if a man accused of rape or incest would ever be given any visitation or care rights for the child he sired…or would he in Texas?

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:22:26am

Greets and saluts from the soggy NYC metro area. We escaped essentially unscathed from the flooding rains last night. Sump pump did its job, and I found a little water coming in via the dryer vent (went outside and taped seams and that seemed to stop water coming in. Some folks in our neighborhood weren’t so lucky as they had serious water in their basements. Others in our area lost power and the Passaic River is already flooding in spots.

At least 1 people died in NJ, two are missing, and several died in NYC.

Central Park smashed all time records last night with most rainfall in a 1 hour period - a record that was barely 2 weeks old. Highways, subways, and transit are all fubar thanks to flooding.

These amounts are likely to be exceeded by those in Central/Northern NJ, Rockland/Westchester NY, and up into Connecticut:

Newark: 8.41 inches
Central Park: 8.13 inches
LaGuardia: 6.8 inches
Bridgeport: 5.77 inches
JFK: 2.56 inches
Islip: 1.53 inches

Paterson Great Falls are definitely churning something fierce this morning as runoff flows into the river. There might be flooding in other spots along the Passaic, but bigger concerns are Bound Brook and they are expecting flooding rivaling Floyd.

Meanwhile, investigators will be out across NJ looking at storm damage to assess the tornadoes that struck around Mullica and Trenton.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:24:26am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:26:18am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:36:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:37:55am

More Christian plague vectors, this time in Michigan.

A Christian school has figured out a way around state mask mandates.

Christian school says parents can write “medical” mask exemptions for their kids (Michigan Public Radio)

It was Sunday, August 22, and the board at NorthPointe Christian Schools in Grand Rapids was holding an urgent evening meeting. Just two days earlier, the Kent County Health Department issued an mask order for pre-K through 6th grade students and staff, unless they had a “medical reason confirmed in writing from a Medical Doctor (MD) or Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (DO) currently licensed to practice medicine in the State of Michigan.”

Until then, NorthPointe, a private school boasting “100% Christian staff” and full-time tuition ranging from about $7,500 for kindergarten and just under $10,000 for high schoolers, told families masks would be optional “but welcome at all campuses.”

A little after 8 p.m. Sunday night, head of schools Todd Tolsma and board president Jeffrey Keessen sent an “important update” to families: after “much prayerful thought and consideration,” NorthPointe would allow parents to write a “medical” exemption for their own kids.

“As a school we believe that no one knows what their child needs physically, spiritually, socially and emotionally better than the parent,” the email read. “That is why you chose NorthPointe Christian Schools. NorthPointe Christian will enact the KCHD mask order, but also will accept a parent’s or guardian’s written representation stating that your child is not wearing a face covering because they cannot medically tolerate a face covering. This includes the consideration for a child’s mental health.”

Neither Tolsma nor Keessen responded to requests for comment Monday.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:39:25am

I don’t want to hear from Collins.

I want Sinema and Manchin locked in a room with leadership and Biden and hammer home what those two fucknuts have accomplished: they’ve aided and abetted the destruction of the rule of law by supporting a procedural method that is nowhere in the constitution, was enacted in the first place to suppress civil rights, and is now being used by a reactionary know nothing minority to sabotage government and thwart a majority of Americans from seeing progress done on a wide range of issues.

Make them support the filibuster elimination for the courts, and then announce not only that there are going to be new justices added to the bench, but that new circuits added and that the number of circuits will match the number of seats on the Supreme Court.

Democrats hold the majority. Act like it and make it happen. You know damned well that McConnell and the GOP would do anything and everything to further their power, including filling court seats in an election year and other chicanery. This helps balance a court that the GOP tilted in favor of the religious know nothing theocrats who lack the character and judgment to be sitting on a court anywhere.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:42:48am

No one at this point is going to change any minds. Time to back off these turds, protect your kids and yourself.

Let the rubes and their kids experience the results of their actions. Death and denied Insurance claims will do the rest.

I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE FUCKERS!

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:45:29am

re: #337 lawhawk

That means they’ll have to give back the money.

That’s all this is about. Graft, pure and simple.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:51:10am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:51:23am

re: #117 retired cynic

This jerk!

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:51:48am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 5:51:50am
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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:00:30am

The Robert Court should get favorable reviews compared to the Taney Court. What they did overnight with the Texas vigilante law is little different from how the Taney Court addressed slavery.

They’ve green lit vigilantism and shredded the rule of law. The 5 justices whose silence is assent know this law will never survive a critical analysis, so they’re not bothering to do it at all. They know it is unconstitutional, barely holds together under the internal logic of the law, as it provides a cloak of state action on private vigilantes, and ultimately advances their effort to overturn not only Roe and Casey, but Griswold and Obergefell.

Roe and Casey are the primary abortion laws.

Griswold provides a right to contraceptives.
Obergefell extended civil rights for the LGBTQ community.

This method of vigilantism and extremism is surely going to get extended by these right wing theofascists to those areas of law to deprive people of their rights without actually winning cases that overturn the precedent.

The Trump justices are intent on using the shadow docket to do what they can’t in open court.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:00:32am

When states give no-bid contracts to religious organisations to perform state functions, it is not surprising when the church either fails or rips off the state.

Gov. Ricketts gave a no-bid contract to a Kansas church group to provide foster care services in Omaha, making them the sole provider. It has predictably turned into a crapfest, as misuse of funds, outright fraud, and mistreatment of children has resulted.

Now we have this:

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Dangerman  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:03:37am

South Dakota’s top public safety official said Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg (R) should have been charged with manslaughter instead of misdemeanors for his role in a hit-and-run vehicle crash that killed someone, the Sioux Falls Argus Leader reports.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:04:41am

Rainfall totals are starting to come in across the region, and Bergen County got between 4 and 9 inches. Teterboro Airport was flooded out.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:05:44am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But it was an uncomfortably close-run thing.

The GOP is all about bucking the numbers to stay in power.

True, but they are about to unleash a shit storm. Their most ardent voters have been waiting for the day they can close all the abortion clinics for decades, so it will happen in a rush, and it’s going to wake up the majority who suddenly find themselves living in Gilead and will not be happy about it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:09:18am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:10:02am

re: #338 Dave In Austin

No one at this point is going to change any minds. Time to back off these turds, protect your kids and yourself.

Let the rubes and their kids experience the results of their actions. Death and denied Insurance claims will do the rest.

I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE FUCKERS!

A little over half of employers plan to institute vaccine mandates by the end of the year. We need most of the rest of them to as well, and sooner.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:15:02am

re: #338 Dave In Austin

No one at this point is going to change any minds. Time to back off these turds, protect your kids and yourself.

Let the rubes and their kids experience the results of their actions. Death and denied Insurance claims will do the rest.

I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE FUCKERS!

Except my kid still has to go to school with their kids.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:15:42am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:15:54am

I plan to go to my local school board meeting on September 7 and ask them to institute a vaccine mandate for all employees working in the schools. I doubt they will, but it’s not a completely hopeless cause, because they did adopt a mask mandate before it became statewide policy, and someone has to stand up for what’s right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:19:02am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the World-Herald editorial:

Young people need information to help them understand reproductive health. Some parents do a fine job informing their children. Other parents or guardians do not. Schools can play a constructive role in helping address this need.

A Nebraska high school student explained the need in a recent Midlands Voices essay. Her school taught her what side of the sidewalk a boy should walk on (my emphasis), she wrote, but “what I didn’t learn was about puberty and my reproductive health system. I didn’t learn how a person becomes pregnant, let alone about contraception. Consent and healthy relationships were never discussed. And they didn’t cover anything about sexual orientation or gender identity.”

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:27:22am

Good thread on the Texas law and the Court.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:33:59am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:34:07am
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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:40:00am

re: #357 No Malarkey!

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Namely, this assumes that the GOP hasn’t gerrymandered districts and suppressed votes.

They’re doing both in a significant number of states and that will have catastrophic consequences.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:44:01am

re: #358 lawhawk

We’re just going to have to keep fighting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:46:49am

re: #359 Belafon

We’re just going to have to keep fighting.

It isn’t just about getting out the vote: it is about getting those votes counted and registered and certified. That is a long row to hoe with all the stones the GOP is busy strewing in it…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:47:49am

re: #351 Belafon

Except my kid still has to go to school with their kids.

It’s up to you to protect them. You know this though. No one else will at this point. It they are under 12, keep them home.

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wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:47:59am

re: #326 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Lanes are merging…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:49:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:53:11am

(6:50)

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sagehen  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:53:59am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:54:21am

re: #358 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Namely, this assumes that the GOP hasn’t gerrymandered districts and suppressed votes.

They’re doing both in a significant number of states and that will have catastrophic consequences.

I believe they are suppressing many of their own votes. And Filipkowski thinks it’s Republican women, whose votes they aren’t trying to suppress, who will flip. Gerrymandering only goes so far when your voting base is shrinking.

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Dangerman  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:56:29am

re: #365 sagehen

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One star is too generous

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:56:51am

Here’s the thing with abortion: most people are against it - in principle. But they want to keep that option open in case their own daughter gets knocked up by some loser or at too young an age…

And now they are faced with a draconian regulation that even precludes just flying them out of state for the procedure.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:58:06am

re: #286 Dread Pirate Ron

This is a modern Samsung French-door. It has all sorts of devices inside that deal with the ice, water, dehumidifier, defroster. This thing even farts some times.

Sounds like a name for a punk band—“The Farting Refrigerators”…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:58:54am

Good. The committee will be as bipartisan as possible.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:58:54am

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Here’s the thing with abortion: most people are against it - in principle. But they want to keep that option open in case their own daughter gets knocked up by some loser or at too young an age…

And now they are faced with a draconian regulation that even precludes just flying them out of state for the procedure.

Most people think they would never choose it for themselves. Most people, though, actually don’t think that they should have a say in what other women do.

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Dangerman  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:59:11am
A new Public Policy Institute of California poll finds just 39% of Californians want to recall Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), while 58% are opposed.

I have not read the crosstabs
Likey voters/all residents etc

But the trend is good

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danarchy  Sep 2, 2021 • 6:59:52am

re: #148 Hecuba’s daughter

What is this nonsense showing the “left” taking ketamine? It’s body builders — aren’t they equally likely to be on the right as the left?

Ketamine(special K) is a party drug, and everyone knows that only lefties use recreational drugs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:01:47am

re: #373 danarchy

Ketamine(special K) is a party drug, and everyone knows that only lefties use recreational drugs.

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Prescription drug use is not drug abuse!

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danarchy  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:04:03am

re: #222 mmmirele

tl;dr Ketamine has legitimate uses and Sully can STFU.

To be fair Ivermectin is also approved by the FDA and has legitimate uses. Both drugs can be abused, I just don’t think Special K abuse breaks down as left/right as all that. Whereas I am willing to bet there aren’t a whole lot of lefties trying to treat covid with Ivermectin.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:04:10am
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Dangerman  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:06:37am
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sagehen  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:10:55am

Am I the only one who, when I watch video of hurricanes and floods and wildfires, wonders how the people on Walking Dead would fare?

That DC subway they’ve been crawling through for two episodes now, why isn’t it completely submerged, since the pumps would have been rendered inoperative when the power plants went off-line a dozen years ago?

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:13:09am

Last nights Samantha Bee’s Tenacious Unicorn Ranch segment.
It’s kinda silly, but hey it’s positive news coverage.

Tenacious Unicorn Ranch Is Pioneering a New and Queer Wild West

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:14:54am

re: #377 Dangerman

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That’s going to require a whole lot of people on the left to admit they were wrong.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:15:07am

I’m going to stagger off to bed. Catch y’all later.

Try to stay above water if you were in the path of Hurricane Ida.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:16:22am

re: #378 sagehen

Am I the only one who, when I watch video of hurricanes and floods and wildfires, wonders how the people on Walking Dead would fare?

That DC subway they’ve been crawling through for two episodes now, why isn’t it completely submerged, since the pumps would have been rendered inoperative when the power plants went off-line a dozen years ago?

The comedy apocalypse, Last Man on Earth, pointed out that the U.S. would be rendered uninhabitable as the unattended nuclear plants melted down. And of course they wouldn’t be tooling around in cars because the gasoline would all go bad after a few months. But it’s a zombie show, so realism is out the window from the start.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:17:28am

Woman shot dead by police after hurling N-word at Hurricane Ida workers and trying to ‘run over a deputy’

A woman was shot to death by police Wednesday after hurling racial slurs at a crew working to repair damage from Hurricane Ida in Metarie, Louisiana.

rawstory.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:31:44am

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:35:42am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:38:13am

re: #326 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:41:49am

The GOP hasn’t killed Roe yet, but they just went ahead and put it on a ventilator.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:42:23am

Sitting here eating warm oatmeal cookies Wife just made. That’s fair, because I made her Martha Stewart waffles before dawn. That’s all because this is our 54th anniversary, and there is only going to be takeout for supper. That’s what the 54th present is—takeout.

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Mattand  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:43:11am

re: #356 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Holy fucking shit; that is the worst I’ve ever seen the Schuykill flood like that.

I just drove that interchange on Sunday. Also, as the video re-orients itself, it starts traveling north. The river distance-wise is like 50 to 100 feet into the streets.

That is really bad.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:48:30am

re: #383 JOE 🥓

Woman shot dead by police after hurling N-word at Hurricane Ida workers and trying to ‘run over a deputy’

A woman was shot to death by police Wednesday after hurling racial slurs at a crew working to repair damage from Hurricane Ida in Metarie, Louisiana.

rawstory.com

Trump gave them permission.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:48:46am
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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:49:19am

re: #387 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP hasn’t killed Roe yet, but they just went ahead and put it on a ventilator.

And they’re going to Schiavo the whole thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:51:40am

Let us be reminded again that we can take NONE of the progress we have made over the past 50 years in reproductive rights, voting rights, women’s rights, personal freedoms, minority and LGBTQ rights for granted as long as we have fucking Fundamentalist radicals out trying to turn us back to the 18th Century.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:51:43am

re: #387 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP hasn’t killed Roe yet, but they just went ahead and put it on a ventilator.

But they have given the green light for neighbors to snitch on one another.

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darthstar  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:52:10am

Mornin’ everyone. The Texas thing is too much. Think I’ll spend some time playing Duolingo and then actually get some work done before I go on vacation. Work is a great distraction from politics sometimes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:53:20am

re: #395 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. The Texas thing is too much. Think I’ll spend some time playing Duolingo and then actually get some work done before I go on vacation. Work is a great distraction from politics sometimes.

Yes, I am more distressed over this than over most anything that Trump did while in office…

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darthstar  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:53:22am

re: #395 darthstar

“playing duolingo.” - practicing my Spanish…though I’m on or near the podium in my group right now so I’m motivated.

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plansbandc  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:53:40am

re: #309 Dopamine Fish

Next? Kill gay marriage.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:54:24am

Golden Calf Cult bans masks, unwittingly promotes evolution:

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:55:39am

re: #389 Mattand

Raritan River at Bound Brook is expected to break records set during Floyd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:56:28am

re: #399 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

While interviewing radical right-wing pastor Greg Locke about his decision to ban anyone from wearing a mask in his church, Gina Loudon praises his “enthusiasm for freedom.”

They simply do not hear the words that emanate from their open pie holes…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 7:57:19am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:00:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:02:04am

re: #403 No Malarkey!

That is a feature, not a bug

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jeffreyw  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:02:19am

re: #362 wrenchwench

Lanes are merging…

..into a roundabout?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:04:18am

re: #403 No Malarkey!

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This is what Xtians have wanted for ages! A return to Puritan Massachusetts where neighbors tattle on each other in the name of Jesus! Now watch every state where the Xtians control the legislature pass these Xtian Stasi laws!

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:05:51am

re: #406 JOE 🥓

This is what Xtians have wanted for ages! A return to Puritan Massachusetts where neighbors tattle on each other in the name of Jesus! Now watch every state where the Xtians control the legislature pass these Xtian Stasi laws!

America is finally becoming a Christian nation! It’s everything we’ve ever wanted! Except for Jesus, who explicitly said He didn’t come to build an earthly kingdom, but who gives a flying fuck about what some old dead Jew said?!

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:06:08am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:08:44am

re: #407 Dopamine Fish

America is finally becoming a Christian nation! It’s everything we’ve ever wanted! Except for Jesus, who explicitly said He didn’t come to build an earthly kingdom, but who gives a flying fuck about what some old dead Jew said?!

And now in TexASS you can accuse anyone of participating in an abortion and the TexASS courts will force your victim to cough up $10,000! Oh, and if you make a false accusation you’re off the hook!

And what is so cool is you don’t have to live in TexASS to do that!

GET THE FUCK OUT OF TEXAS!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:10:16am

Isn’t it pretty clear that this TX law will cause some people to file bullshit reports just to try and get the money?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:11:53am

re: #410 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t it pretty clear that this TX law will cause some people to file bullshit reports just to try and get the money?

They built it with barriers to entry. In order to get your money, you have to succeed, otherwise, you get nothing. And even better, the defendants get nothing, regardless of whether they succeed in their defense or not. So basically, it’s entirely possible for the side with the money (hint: THE FOLKS THAT WROTE THE FUCKING THING) to win through sheer numbers; even if they keep losing the suits they file, the other guys don’t get paid, so they’ll run out of money faster.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:13:28am

re: #410 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t it pretty clear that this TX law will cause some people to file bullshit reports just to try and get the money?

Hey folks! Need to get $10,000 quick? Contact TexASS Right To Life and accuse any Texan of aiding a woman to get an abortion. Any Texas judge will get that mark to give you $10,000! And since it’s Texas it’s probably tax-free cash! Hurry up and pick your victim today! Oh and if you make a false accusation you pay nothing!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:14:47am

re: #411 Dopamine Fish

So what you are saying is that no defense attorneys are going to want to take these cases because there is nothing in it for them?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:14:52am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:16:15am

re: #413 Eclectic Cyborg

So what you are saying is that no defense attorneys are going to want to take these cases because there is nothing in it for them?

That is a depressingly great point.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:16:39am

re: #410 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t it pretty clear that this TX law will cause some people to file bullshit reports just to try and get the money?

Yes. It’s pretty clear that anyone can report anyone, with no facts or evidence.

So you can go ahead and report Ted Cruz, who sent his kids out of the country during a natural disaster as cover for their getting abortions. Or Ken Paxton’s wife. Or Abbott’s wife. Etc.

All this does is clog already overburdened courts with more frivolous actions.

Every aspect of this insane law is fraught with problems, and the Supreme Court’s right wing extremists punted because they wanted time to do analysis?

Every aspect of this law is unconstitutional on its face; they just want time to figure out a way to justify it (and by punting to a later date, are giving their fellow right wing extremists time to find justifications or loopholes they can use to justify this backdoor overturn of Roe without actually overturning Roe).

At the same time, this becomes model for overturning every other civil/voting right the right wing doesn’t like. Report gays for being gay. Etc. It’s not state action. It’s private actors.

That’s all bulkshit of course; the state is empowering private actors to act in the stead of the state to cover up the fact that they want to abolish conduct they deem illicit but lack the votes to do legislatively and the courts will not sustain on a direct attack.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:20:29am

WTAF

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darthstar  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:20:39am

THIS.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:20:40am

And in today’s edition of Fascist Fun For All, Josh Bernstein wants all Democrats to starve to death!

Josh Bernstein Calls for Democratic Voters to Be Starved Until Biden Resigns

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darthstar  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:23:58am

re: #418 darthstar

THIS.

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Not just concerts. Corporate conventions. Tourism. Boycott. Sanction. Divest.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:24:38am

re: #415 Dopamine Fish

The depressing part is that the women likely to be accused of breaking this law are often those least able to pay for care. But these fuckers will also target the doctors and those who help these women seek reproductive health options in or out of the state.

The threat of these lawsuits is enough to chill reproductive health care options.

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darthstar  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:25:02am

re: #419 JOE 🥓

And in today’s edition of Fascist Fun For All, Josh Bernstein wants all Democrats to starve to death!

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And what will the Truckers eat if they don’t have any routes to line their wallets?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:25:08am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:26:26am

re: #419 JOE 🥓

And in today’s edition of Fascist Fun For All, Josh Bernstein wants all Democrats to starve to death!

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They don’t seem to realize that calling mainstream Americans “Communists” outs them as fascists.

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lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:29:37am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:30:36am

re: #421 lawhawk

The depressing part is that the women likely to be accused of breaking this law are often those least able to pay for care. But these fuckers will also target the doctors and those who help these women seek reproductive health options in or out of the state.

The threat of these lawsuits is enough to chill reproductive health care options.

They’re going to target the minorities and people they think are “illegal immigrants”. Cleaning out the undesirables in their communities.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:31:18am

re: #425 lawhawk

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Bottom line—These radical Xtians want to force their Dominionist 7 Mountains Shit on everyone and the 5 radical catholics on the Court are giving them the green light.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:32:43am

re: #418 darthstar

THIS.

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Elon and Tesla will probably build EXTRA factories there.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:33:41am

re: #418 darthstar

Umphrey’s McGee inadvertently cancelled all their Texas shows next week. One of the team has covid.

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:33:42am

re: #421 lawhawk

The depressing part is that the women likely to be accused of breaking this law are often those least able to pay for care. But these fuckers will also target the doctors and those who help these women seek reproductive health options in or out of the state.

The threat of these lawsuits is enough to chill reproductive health care options.

It’s all about enabling a shadow Gestapo to rule the state by terror while the state implicitly allows it, just stopping short of openly condoning it so as to appeal to their half of the Supremes and make it all above the board on paper. And the same template will likely be used to terrorize every other at risk group to ensure only the advancement of the White Male into their rightful place of eternal, unbreakable rule.

It’s fascism by fiat, and apparently it’s all gucci long as we have this Supreme Court.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:36:42am

re: #430 Citizen K

It’s all about enabling a shadow Gestapo to rule the state by terror while the state implicitly allows it, just stopping short of openly condoning it so as to appeal to their half of the Supremes and make it all above the board on paper. And the same template will likely be used to terrorize every other at risk group to ensure only the advancement of the White Male into their rightful place of eternal, unbreakable rule.

It’s fascism by fiat, and apparently it’s all gucci long as we have this Supreme Court.

Only a matter of time before these Xtians come after Jews, Muslims, Buddhists. etc.

The Xtians WILL come after us.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:37:41am

re: #431 JOE 🥓

Only a matter of time before these Xtians come after Jews, Muslims, Buddhists. etc.

The Xtians WILL come after us.

Atheist here. I’d like to see them try.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:38:12am

re: #417 The Pie Overlord!

Ah, the horrors of a good old ECW match…except not done by a professional.

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:41:44am

re: #433 Sufficient unto the day…

Ah, the horrors of a good old ECW match…except not done by a professional.

Lets not exaggerate here. Even the craziest of death match wrestlers probably wouldn’t dive into a bed of taut barbed wire without some kind of backing beneath it. Running into barbed wire ropes was extreme. This is just suicidal. Hell, the fact that it’s drawn taut is like…genuinely disturbing. You might as well just dive into garrote wire at that point.

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teleskiguy  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:43:05am

We will defeat these pig people!

OK, time to hopefully get across the state of Nebraska today. In lieu of all the bad craziness out there I’ll be listening to a lengthy podcast about the Haitian Revolution.

Y’all be nice.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:00:47am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which is why they idolize Putin’s Russia: authoritarian, oligarchic, xenophobic, homophobic, patriarchal, militaristic and theocratic. Only difference would be Fundamentalist Protestant theocratic rather than Russian Orthodox.

Yep. Because 100% of their goals would be attained if we were an authoritarian white supremacist autocracy. That is their preferred style of government.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:03:29am

Yep. Because 100% of their goals would be attained if we were an authoritarian white supremacist autocracy theocracy. That is their preferred style of government.

Edited for accuracy.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:04:52am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which is why they idolize Putin’s Russia: authoritarian, oligarchic, xenophobic, homophobic, patriarchal, militaristic and theocratic. Only difference would be Fundamentalist Protestant theocratic rather than Russian Orthodox.

Sure is amazing that the same Xtians who denounced Gawdless Communism during the Cold War now totally embrace their brother in Chri$t Putin!

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:06:08am

I DID A THING!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:14:03am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Pope Francis not comeout in favor of the vaccine?

But there are conservative prelates hostile to Pope Francis who have spoken against vaccination and there are plenty of Catholics who support them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:14:07am

re: #407 Dopamine Fish

America is finally becoming a Christian nation! It’s everything we’ve ever wanted! Except for Jesus, who explicitly said He didn’t come to build an earthly kingdom, but who gives a flying fuck about what some old dead Jew said?!

American Exceptionalism is based on the notion that we are God’s Favorite Nation on Earth and will continue to prosper and enjoy His Divine Blessings because our laws reflect (their Fundamentalist backward interpretation of ) His Divine Will.

Needless to say, they see allowing abortion and birth control and public adultery and gay marriage and miscegenation and people eating the Bread of Idleness all as a direct affront to God and unless we outlaw all those things, he will no longer favor us and might just decide it is time to open up a Jehosophat-size can of Divine Ass-Whoop on us…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:16:16am

re: #429 teleskiguy

Umphrey’s McGee inadvertently cancelled all their Texas shows next week. One of the team has covid.

If they didn’t have it already, they probably would by the time they left Texas…

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:22:59am

Because we knew it was coming. And in another state where the GOP will likely lock in eternal institutional power on the back of rulings like this.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:23:57am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a feature, not a bug

Without a doubt. The GQP has turned Texas into an authoritarian state with informants to report their neighbors, patrolled by heavily armed extremists, not much different from Afghanistan.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:24:40am

re: #443 Citizen K

The rest of the Confederate South will not be far behind.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:26:07am

re: #411 Dopamine Fish

They built it with barriers to entry. In order to get your money, you have to succeed, otherwise, you get nothing. And even better, the defendants get nothing, regardless of whether they succeed in their defense or not. So basically, it’s entirely possible for the side with the money (hint: THE FOLKS THAT WROTE THE FUCKING THING) to win through sheer numbers; even if they keep losing the suits they file, the other guys don’t get paid, so they’ll run out of money faster.

The main purpose being to force every single abortion clinic to close.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:28:25am

re: #322 No Malarkey!

Just remember a solid majority voted Trump out of office last November. We have the numbers on our side, and, if they come out to vote, we will win. The closing of all the abortion clinics in half the states should promote a massive backlash.

It was not a solid majority — only about 40,000 votes in the right states going a different way and Trump would have been re-elected. As I keep saying, thanks to the EC, a candidate can theoretically win 70% of the popular vote and lose the election.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:33:28am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As if a man accused of rape or incest would ever be given any visitation or care rights for the child he sired…or would he in Texas?

Doesn’t matter if he couldn’t be granted visitation rights; he still could sue to criminalize the abortion. After all, a person in a different state who has no connection to the woman is considered a party in standing for purposes of this law.

449
No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:37:50am

re: #448 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t matter if he couldn’t be granted visitation rights; he still could sue to criminalize the abortion. After all, a person in a different state who has no connection to the woman is considered a party in standing for purposes of this law.

I saw that there was in the law a ban on men who raped or engaged in incest with the woman filing an informant suit. But if the woman didn’t file a police report, as most don’t, I doubt it would apply.

450
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:37:59am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As if a man accused of rape or incest would ever be given any visitation or care rights for the child he sired…or would he in Texas?

In Kentucky, he would have parental rights UNLESS he is convicted of rape.
No conviction? He has rights…and can continue to terrorize his victim(s).

451
No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:41:14am

Governor Beshear reporting that Kentucky had to get 40 more ventilators from the feds. Surgeries are being cancelled because the hospitals are full of Covid patients.

452
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:41:48am

I wonder how soon we’ll see the first court case under this new law in Texas?

453
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:41:59am

more morons in Kentucky

**thud**

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

454
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:43:40am
455
Dopamine Fish  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:43:43am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

Funny, my kids are actually kinda happy to wear masks in school.

456
No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:44:20am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

more morons in Kentucky

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

Two thirds of Kentucky hospitals have critical staff shortages.

457
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:45:32am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

458
Patricia Kayden  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:46:49am
459
Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:46:58am

Guns have more rights than women in Texas. Keep that in mind./

EDIT:
re: #458 Patricia Kayden

And here we go. This will happen in every red state in the United States. Those choosing to defend the filibuster are making the conscious decision to *allow* these anti-abortion laws to proliferate.

ELIMINATE THE FILIBUSTER AND PASS A LAW CODIFYING ROE

Ok…again…how? What’s your answer to getting Manchin and Sinema on board that won’t openly harden their opposition and make them consider that phone call to their state GOP to jump aisles and institutionally fuck us even worse? ‘Eliminate the Filibuster’ is a noble goal, but unless you can figure out the logistics, it’s only rhetoric, and folks screaming about it are the ones that want to hang these things on the Dem party as a whole, and only the Dem party while never ascribing any agency to the GOP while they reap all the fucking rewards to perpetual power.

460
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:48:55am
461
No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:53:10am

re: #458 Patricia Kayden

Hate to say it, but Republicans outlawing abortion in half the country maybe the wake up call voters need.

462
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:53:21am

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

What GOP conference is Marjorie three names babbling about?

463
No Malarkey!  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:55:07am

Doug Jensen, who led the mob that chased Officer Goodman, is going back to jail for watching the Lindell cyber symposium.

464
Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:57:05am

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

What GOP conference is Marjorie three names babbling about?

There’s a rule that says that if a person is not a member of the party conference in the House, they can’t be on committees. So a few Republicans are trying to get Liz and Adam thrown out of the GOP conference, and they’d have to be kicked off of the select committee.

465
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:57:20am

and right now in Ohio

466
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:57:55am

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

What GOP conference is Marjorie three names babbling about?

All of the GOP in the House of Representatives

467
BeachDem  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:59:31am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

In Kentucky, he would have parental rights UNLESS he is convicted of rape.
No conviction? He has rights…and can continue to terrorize his victim(s).

Termination of Parental Rights: 32 states allow for the termination of parental rights of perpetrators of sexual assault who conceive a child as a result.
Restriction of Parental Rights: 20 states allow for some form of restriction on the parental rights of perpetrators of sexual assault.

Article has a state by state chart of Parental Rights/Sexual Assault

ncsl.org

468
Rightwingconspirator  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:01:00am

re: #452 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how soon we’ll see the first court case under this new law in Texas?

4… 3… 2…

469
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:05:17am
470
BeachDem  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:05:52am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

more morons in Kentucky

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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

My niece’s early childhood class (public school early childhood center, Massachusetts. Most kids 3-4; many special needs.) The kids look just fine with their masks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:06:26am
472
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:08:36am

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

473
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:13:58am

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

What hurts me so is my brainwashed Xtian relatives recite the same shit in their Facebook and Twitter posts…They traded in 19th Century Fox for OANN, The Blaze and Newsmax.

474
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:14:30am
475
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:15:31am

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

If vaccines are a plot to depopulate the world, why are the UNVACCINATED the ones dying in high numbers?

Don’t these MORONS ever think these things through? (Rhetorical question)

476
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:15:37am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Biden lambasted the Supreme Court’s decision not to block a new Texas law banning most abortions in the state and directed federal agencies to do what they can to “insulate women and providers” from the impact.

The GOP see this as a win, they can now paint Biden and the Dems as actively pro-abortion and start insinuating that Dems will institute mandatory abortions unless we stop them.

477
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:16:30am

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

Guy at the Seminole Co (FL) school board meeting today says vaccines are a conspiracy by the Deep State medical establishment to depopulate the world. Also says he doesn’t listen to Fox News or Hannity anymore because they have been compromised are not bat-shit crazy and conspiratorial enough.

478
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:16:32am
479
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:16:36am

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brining back the Green Book.

480
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:18:19am

re: #479 Eclectic Cyborg

Brining back the Green Book.

Bring back property-owning requirements for voting (White males only. Ones who can trace their ancestry back to William the Conqueror)

481
Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:19:33am

re: #476 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP see this as a win, they can now paint Biden and the Dems as actively pro-abortion and start insinuating that Dems will institute mandatory abortions unless we stop them.

So, absolutely nothing different than before. It’s just the GOP can’t get away with “We’d love to abolish Roe, but…”

482
GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:19:53am

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

But the people dying are 99% unvaccinated…. Oh. Never mind. Cultists like that don’t give a shit about reality. Pints of RoundUp for everyone!

483
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:19:58am

Ah the latest from Jimmy Bore, er, Dore defending Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein and blaming the Democrats for packing the Supreme Court.

Only a matter of time before this ass winds up on Newsmax.

484
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:21:47am

re: #480 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bring back property-owning requirements for voting (White XTIAN males only. Ones who can trace their ancestry back to William the Conqueror)

Added that extra provision that ensures only Gawdly Xtians will be in positions to rule over us…

485
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:23:58am
486
Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:26:15am

Fuck it, I give up.

Fuck this shit.
487
Patricia Kayden  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:27:06am

re: #476 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am pro-abortion. Nothing wrong with that.

488
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:27:11am

In today’s installment of Pulpit Pimp Theater ‘Apostle’ Michael Petro Says God Is Raising Up a ‘Violent Church’ Because Democrats Don’t Tolerate Xtianity

Radical right-wing pastor Greg Locke appeared on the “Voice of Healing” radio program last week, where he insisted that he must use his Sunday services to preach about politics because the Democrats are trying to impose “tyranny” and take away the rights of Xtians.. The host of the program, a self-proclaimed “apostle” named Michael Petro, readily agreed, declaring that what the United States needs now is “a violent church.”

This is the poison Radical Xtians are programming their marks to do.

‘Apostle’ Michael Petro Says God Is Raising Up a ‘Violent Church’

489
Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:27:32am

ABBA just dropped two new songs.

Yes. ABBA.

Don’t Shut Me Down

ABBA - I Still Have Faith In You

490
Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:29:08am

re: #486 Citizen K

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The $3.5T human infrastructure bill is what exactly, Z.E., if not part of the progressive agenda?

491
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:32:32am

The problem as I see it is that there are more predominantly red states than blue ones. Each state gets two senators. This means, by default, the GOP has an easier chance of getting a senator majority than Democrats do.

492
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:33:03am

re: #486 Citizen K

I am begging people to understand that a 50/50 senate is not a blank-check majority. If you want Dems to pass and fix more shit, the solution is so elect more Dems so that we don’t have to rely on Sinema and Manchin.

There was as time when “rural state” did not automatically equate to “GOP state”…but it is the nature of the Senate that the GOP is over-represented in the less populous states and the Dems. based on the overall number of votes cast for Democratic candidates nationwide, should have a much clearer majority.

493
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:35:11am

re: #492 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was as time when “rural state” did not automatically equate to “GOP state”…but it is the nature of the Senate that the GOP is over-represented in the less populous states and the Dems. based on the overall number of votes cast for Democratic candidates nationwide, should have a much clearer majority.

There was time when Democrats had a chairman who gave a damn about a 50 State Strategy and built up a grassroots organizing movement…and when he succeeded Obama showed Howard Dean the door and installed flunky after flunky who turned their backs on that.

494
Eventual Carrion  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:36:34am

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More Christian plague vectors, this time in Michigan.

A Christian school has figured out a way around state mask mandates.

Christian school says parents can write “medical” mask exemptions for their kids (Michigan Public Radio)

(more)

Signed, Epstein’s mother

495
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:37:06am

“lawyers say…”
what do the actual DOCTORS at the hospital say?

496
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:37:06am

re: #493 JOE 🥓

There was time when Democrats had a chairman who gave a damn about a 50 State Strategy and built up a grassroots organizing movement…and when he succeeded Obama showed Howard Dean the door and installed flunky after flunky who turned their backs on that.

Georgia showed us that such a strategy can work.

497
plansbandc  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:37:15am

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about if your child or your niece or your grandchild gets raped and gets pregnant from the rape?

It’s not just oops, my child had a one night stand and got pregnant. It’s the repeated victimization of women and girls.

498
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:37:23am

re: #495 Backwoods_Sleuth

499
ckkatz  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:38:42am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

Hokay, time for my only ABBA joke:

There’s French ABBA cover band. It only has 3 members, though.
And, unfortunately, the band is not very good. They completely butcher the songs.

They’re called ABBA Trois

500
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:39:05am
501
Eventual Carrion  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:41:10am

re: #340 Patricia Kayden

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Looks like Canned Ass is going to have to bake her own fucking cake

502
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:42:12am
503
Patricia Kayden  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:42:46am

504
aatharuv  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:42:47am

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More Christian plague vectors, this time in Michigan.

A Christian school has figured out a way around state mask mandates.

Christian school says parents can write “medical” mask exemptions for their kids (Michigan Public Radio)

(more)

It seems like these people are competing with ISIS, the Taliban, et al to see who can kill more Christians…

505
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:45:32am
506
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:45:34am

re: #500 Backwoods_Sleuth

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CBS =
Conservative
Bull
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:46:29am

re: #499 ckkatz

Hokay, time for my only ABBA joke:

There’s French ABBA cover band. It only has 3 members, though.
And, unfortunately, the band is not very good. They completely butcher the songs.

They’re called ABBA Trois

There is a Belgian Prince cover band called the Violet Flems

508
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:46:56am

re: #497 plansbandc

How about if your child or your niece or your grandchild gets raped and gets pregnant from the rape?

It’s not just oops, my child had a one night stand and got pregnant. It’s the repeated victimization of women and girls.

They do not see that as a bigger issue than abortion.

509
Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:47:28am

re: #499 ckkatz

Hokay, time for my only ABBA joke:

There’s French ABBA cover band. It only has 3 members, though.
And, unfortunately, the band is not very good. They completely butcher the songs.

They’re called ABBA Trois

Heh.

Listening to those two songs, they haven’t missed a beat. They sound great, I have to say. Maybe they can tour with Dave Grohl’s DeeGees, leading the disco revival.

510
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:48:11am

re: #497 plansbandc

How about if your child or your niece or your grandchild gets raped and gets pregnant from the rape?

It’s not just oops, my child had a one night stand and got pregnant. It’s the repeated victimization of women and girls.

If they are rich white Xtian Republicans, no problem. The girl takes a vacation in California…

511
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:48:32am

re: #509 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

Listening to those two songs, they haven’t missed a beat. They sound great, I have to say. Maybe they can tour with Dave Grohl’s DeeGees, leading the disco revival.

Loo de l’Eau!

512
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:49:09am

re: #510 JOE 🥓

If they are rich white Xtian Republicans, no problem. The girl takes a vacation in California…

According to the law, they can also be sued…

513
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:50:36am

re: #512 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

According to the law, they can also be sued…

Not if they bribe the cops and judges like good white Xtians do!

514
jaunte  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:51:40am
515
The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:52:35am

re: #510 JOE 🥓

If they are rich white Xtian Republicans, no problem. The girl takes a vacation in California…

The crazy thing about this system is you could force majeure through an abortion and Texas if you have enough cash for lawyers.

On one hand this is just an effect of the bad faith use of technicality that the law it built on, but on another I think it’s another a demonstration of what conservatism actually believes: rights are not universal, you get the rights you can afford.

516
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:53:11am

re: #514 jaunte

Critical Gender Theory?

517
jaunte  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:53:39am

re: #515 The Ghost of a Flea

Vigilantism is not a problem for people who can afford private armies of security goons and lawyers.

518
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:54:16am

re: #515 The Ghost of a Flea

The crazy thing about this system is you could force majeure through an abortion and Texas if you have enough cash for lawyers.

On one hand this is just an effect of the bad faith use of technicality that the law it built on, but on another I think it’s another a demonstration of what conservatism actually believes: rights are not universal, you get the rights you can afford.

Our God-given rights are not the same as your God-given rights…

519
The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:55:19am

re: #517 jaunte

Vigilantism is not a problem for people who can afford private armies of security goons and lawyers.

Civil liberties are now tiered subscriptions.

520
calochortus  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:55:22am

re: #470 BeachDem

My niece’s early childhood class (public school early childhood center, Massachusetts. Most kids 3-4; many special needs.) The kids look just fine with their masks.

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My granddaughter is just over 2 and it is incredibly difficult to keep a mask on her for more than 10 or 15 minutes. Also, in daycare they eat and nap together maskless , so I’m not sure what the point is of trying to mask the rest of the time. Obviously the adults wear masks.

521
jaunte  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:55:23am
522
lawhawk  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:55:55am

re: #514 jaunte

Elie’s post about what Biden and Democrats can do sounds great in the abstract, but here’s where I think it fails. Senate is 50/50 and 2 members - Sinema and Manchin are essentially siding with the GOP on the filibuster, which prevents actions to reorient the judiciary and expand the court and do all the things that would ultimately save civil and voting rights for decades to come.

Biden could engage in some action that federalizes abortion providers or otherwise grants them qualified/privileged immunity. It wont stop the Texas law from going after those who are seeking the abortions, or those who facilitate getting them to the provider.

And this same Supreme Court would quickly strike down Biden’s play - with all the certainty that it is “unconstitutional” even as they questioned how to approach the clearly unconstitutional Texas law. Therefore, we’d still have Roe overturned, the Court still pushing the theocratic agenda, and Biden was checked.

The way forward starts and stops with Manchin and Sinema, and they’re the ones who are the key to ending the GOP tyranny.

523
The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:59:04am

re: #517 jaunte

Vigilantism is not a problem for people who can afford private armies of security goons and lawyers.

Also not a problem if you’re, say, an authority figure that constantly permitted to be forgiven because the culture says so.

524
jaunte  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:59:20am

re: #522 lawhawk

This Texas vigilante workaround feels like a SLAPP suit.

525
Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:59:32am

re: #518 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our God-given rights are not the same as your God-given rights…

“God gave us rights, He gave YOU rules.”

526
JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:01:18am

re: #525 Citizen K

“God gave us rights, He gave YOU rules.”

Prosperity Gaw-Spell Xtians believe that the more The Big G loves you the more wealth you have. That’s the justification rich Xtians use to bribe politicians, police and judges.

527
The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:01:28am
528
jaunte  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:04:47am

re: #527 The Ghost of a Flea

So if a homeless person can’t afford a $500 fine, the taxpayers pay a private prison company to jail them?

529
GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:10:45am

Women in TX need to start exercising their rights under the new gun law that’s enacted today too. Open carry everywhere.

530
Eventual Carrion  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:17:23am

re: #414 The Pie Overlord!

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Remove the FICA wage limit?

531
Eventual Carrion  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:22:39am

re: #426 GlutenFreeJesus

They’re going to target the minorities and people they think are “illegal immigrants”. Cleaning out the undesirables in their communities.

Salem witch trials for the new century.

532
CleverToad  Sep 2, 2021 • 12:08:44pm

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Sitting here eating warm oatmeal cookies Wife just made. That’s fair, because I made her Martha Stewart waffles before dawn. That’s all because this is our 54th anniversary, and there is only going to be takeout for supper. That’s what the 54th present is—takeout.

Congratulations!
Here’s to a good year ahead for you two, and a chance to celebrate your 55th with a great meal inside a restaurant.


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Evangelicals and the Limits of Evangelical EmpathyLink to the article at: alternet.org She writes of her own experience where she turned against evangelicals. Here are the critical paragraphs to think about. And this will bring me to the ongoing evangelical moral panic over exvangelicals, those who ...
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How Did the United States Treat the Creator of…The SaintJust a reminder of how one Leslie Charteris was treated by the Chinese Exclusion Act…and California’s anti-Chinese laws. Just in case you didn’t know, Leslie Charteris was the creator of this literary figure… Charteris himself wasn’t far removed from his ...
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