Another brain fart from Sarah Palin on Twitter tonight, via her Blackberry, now deleted:
TSA:it’s politically incorrect 2 “profile” anyone when natl second is issue?We profile individuals/suspects in other situations!Profile away
UPDATE at 11/19/10 6:42:40 pm:
“Tweef”: n. a hastily posted comment on Twitter that ends up being incredibly embarrassing. See: elevator fart.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:22:40pm |
No mercy.
She want’s to play different, welcome to it Sister.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:22:53pm |
Any bets on whether a handler had to clean up her mess for her?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:23:16pm |
I have had 6 pints… I understood that just fine.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:23:38pm |
This is the core of it, and has been for damn near a decade. The thing is, the people most in favor of profiling really seem to:
a. want profiling for profiling’s sake, as a sort of ‘up yours’ to imaginary political correctness, and
b. are increasingly resistant to any sort of airport security that might inconvenience anyone they themselves wouldn’t profile.
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GatorAtLaw Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:24:10pm |
Meh, not even her best work.
See: twitter.com
And then read: twitter.com
I’d say Frum knocked it out of the park.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:25:10pm |
What’s Nat’l Second got to do with it?
Is that a race horse?
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golgoth Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:25:46pm |
Can I just say, I don’t give a f—- what she spouts.
She isn’t bringing to light anything of importance, her ideas have been more than adequately proven to be biased and politically charged, and her knowledge of anything outside of a beauty contest is limited.
Why should we care what her tweets are? She isnt running for office (yet), and when she does then hit her full force. Until then STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:25:59pm |
“Tweef”: n. a hastily posted comment on Twitter that ends up being incredibly embarrassing. See: elevator fart.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:26:39pm |
1st GIS result for Natl Second.
Coincidence, or has Google become self aware?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:26:54pm |
re: #6 b_sharp
What’s Nat’l Second got to do with it?
Is that a race horse?
No… you never heard of happy hour?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:28:36pm |
re: #9 goddamnedfrank
1st GIS result for Natl Second.
Coincidence, or has Google become self aware?
Google sees all, knows all…
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:29:30pm |
re: #10 brookly red
No… you never heard of happy hour?
That would be ‘natural second’.
And ‘natural third’.
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JamesWI Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:30:40pm |
Can anyone translate this one for me?
“make tx cuts perm;quit punishing work ethic.Swallow w/promising Obama the credit…whatever it takes to break impasse & save US jobs/economy”
Swallow with promising Obama the credit? huh?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:30:57pm |
re: #13 b_sharp
That would be ‘natural second’.
And ‘natural third’.
down here we just say good luck and slide it over…
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:31:01pm |
TSA Week at a Glance: 11/08/10 through 11/14/10
* 6 artfully concealed prohibited items found at checkpoints
* 11 firearms found at checkpoints
* 6 passengers were arrested after investigations of suspicious behavior or fraudulent travel documents
But what have they ever done for us?
/The aqueduct?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:32:06pm |
re: #14 JamesWI
Can anyone translate this one for me?
“make tx cuts perm;quit punishing work ethic.Swallow w/promising Obama the credit…whatever it takes to break impasse & save US jobs/economy”
Swallow with promising Obama the credit? huh?
Don’t try to take it literally—focus on the rhythm, the music….
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Stanley Sea Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:33:04pm |
lol, she’s either drinking or off her meds. Latest tweef
Law enforcemnt profiles individuals/suspects when seeking info 2 prevent or deal w/other crimes;Why can’t this be done @ airports 2 prevent?
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:33:21pm |
re: #14 JamesWI
Can anyone translate this one for me?
“make tx cuts perm;quit punishing work ethic.Swallow w/promising Obama the credit…whatever it takes to break impasse & save US jobs/economy”
Swallow with promising Obama the credit? huh?
Wounds my heart with a monotonous languor
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:34:15pm |
Suddenly in the Palin house;
“WILLOW! GET THE HELL OFF MY BLACKBERRY!”
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:34:44pm |
re: #14 JamesWI
Can anyone translate this one for me?
“make tx cuts perm;quit punishing work ethic.Swallow w/promising Obama the credit…whatever it takes to break impasse & save US jobs/economy”
Swallow with promising Obama the credit? huh?
Make tax cuts permanent; quit punishing work ethic. Swallow our pride over ‘promising’/giving Obama the credit—do whatever it takes to break the impasse and save US jobs and the economy.
/I speak wingnut.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:35:12pm |
re: #18 Stanley Sea
lol, she’s either drinking or off her meds. Latest tweef
well that did make sense, you may wish to disagree, but it did make sense… pass the pretzels please.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:35:29pm |
re: #2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Any bets on whether a handler had to clean up her mess for her?
If that’s cleaned up, God knows how incoherent the original was.
Why do people take this woman seriously? I don’t understand.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:35:40pm |
re: #14 JamesWI
Can anyone translate this one for me?
“make tx cuts perm;quit punishing work ethic.Swallow w/promising Obama the credit…whatever it takes to break impasse & save US jobs/economy”
Swallow with promising Obama the credit? huh?
translates as -
the rents too damn high for my millionaire pals………….
and my god - did she (a half term quitter governor) tweet “work ethic” with a straight face?
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JamesWI Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:36:29pm |
re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Suddenly in the Palin house;
“WILLOW! GET THE HELL OFF MY BLACKBERRY!”
Did she drop the f-bomb?
It’s a good thing Willow didn’t call that guy “retarded.” Otherwise, Sarah would have had to explain again how saying retarded is wrong … . unless you’re not a liberal.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:36:37pm |
Please, please, please, for the love of God, let us profile!!! We’re sure in our hearts that it will work, and no one who looks like us will ever have to walk through a scanner that reveals our naked buns again.
///
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:36:41pm |
re: #25 wozzablog
and my god - did she (a half term quitter governor) tweet “work ethic” with a straight face?
Seriously. She couldn’t even finish a single term as governor and she has the nerve to talk about work ethic? LOL forever.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:38:58pm |
re: #21 SanFranciscoZionist
Make tax cuts permanent; quit punishing work ethic. Swallow our pride over ‘promising’/giving Obama the credit—do whatever it takes to break the impasse and save US jobs and the economy.
/I speak wingnut.
I’d be worried if I were you.
Can you control it?
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:39:51pm |
re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist
Please, please, please, for the love of God, let us profile!!! We’re sure in our hearts that it will work, and no one who looks like us will ever have to walk through a scanner that reveals our naked buns again.
///
I profile. Everytime I see a GOP politician now, I assume they’re anti-science, bigoted, know-nothing, overly religious busybodies who are sexually repressed and miserable.
Been pretty accurate so far.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:40:11pm |
re: #28 Lidane
Seriously. She couldn’t even finish a single term as governor and she has the nerve to talk about work ethic? LOL forever.
she needs no satirising now, at all. people can just quote her for lulz.
i mean, wth? - and she thinks she is in with a chance of beating Obama (or any even moderately sane) Democrat.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:40:34pm |
re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wounds my heart with a monotonous languor
Automatic Maquis upding.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:42:32pm |
re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Suddenly in the Palin house;
“WILLOW! GET THE HELL OFF MY BLACKBERRY!”
faggot was missing. Willow in the clear.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:42:52pm |
Speaking of people that are totally incoherent:
Steve King Argues Undocumented Immigrants Aren’t Subject To The Jurisdiction Of U.S. Laws
Er…what?
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:42:59pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:43:01pm |
re: #32 wozzablog
she needs no satirising now, at all. people can just quote her for lulz.
i mean, wth? - and she thinks she is in with a chance of beating Obama (or any even moderately sane) Democrat.
well I guess it depends on how many people vote for her…
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:43:51pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:44:21pm |
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jaunte Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:46:00pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
Dialects: It’s getting hard to distinguish the lolcat from the shrieking harpy from the palintweet.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:46:27pm |
re: #35 Lidane
Speaking of people that are totally incoherent:
Steve King Argues Undocumented Immigrants Aren’t Subject To The Jurisdiction Of U.S. Laws
Er…what?
climb that mountain
lift that rock
build that wall
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:46:58pm |
re: #37 brookly red
well I guess it depends on how many people vote for her…
she has strong negatives nearing 50% and 64% of people don’t see her as qualified.
I don’t see her getting that turned around before the nationals by only appearing on fox or by shooting salmon in soft focus or some such.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:47:10pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:47:11pm |
re: #39 Killgore Trout
Nashonul sekurity iz under mah bus! Konstituion and lyberty iz only needed!
your a cat aren’t you… busted. put your paws against the wall sucka!
profiling works.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:47:47pm |
re: #42 wozzablog
she has strong negatives nearing 50% and 64% of people don’t see her as qualified.
I don’t see her getting that turned around before the nationals by only appearing on fox or by shooting salmon in soft focus or some such.
if she’s elected, promise you won’t kill yourself?
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Jimmah Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:48:33pm |
A stupid argument expressed stupidly. Yes, it’s another classic Palin braincrash.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:48:55pm |
re: #44 brookly red
your a cat aren’t you… busted. put your paws against the wall sucka!
profiling works.
profile *how*………….?
everyone with a non-‘merkin sounding name?
everyone who doesn’t look like those other presidents on the money?………..
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:49:34pm |
re: #45 albusteve
if she’s elected, promise you won’t kill yourself?
Ramat Gan is lovely this time of year.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:49:39pm |
re: #42 wozzablog
she has strong negatives nearing 50% and 64% of people don’t see her as qualified.
I don’t see her getting that turned around before the nationals by only appearing on fox or by shooting salmon in soft focus or some such.
and yet… and yet… i keep on remembering how we all thought ronald reagan would be the easiest republican to beat at the beginning of 1980…
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PhillyPretzel Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:49:50pm |
re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:50:09pm |
re: #47 wozzablog
profile *how*…?
everyone with a non-‘merkin sounding name?
everyone who doesn’t look like those other presidents on the money?…
Everyone who loves profiling is white. So simple for them.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:50:37pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
You mean the whole “scrutinize everyone” approach?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:50:37pm |
re: #47 wozzablog
profile *how*…?
everyone with a non-‘merkin sounding name?
everyone who doesn’t look like those other presidents on the money?…
lighten up jerky… I was speaking to I can has cheezburger speak…
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:51:15pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
yes, they profile….we may be blown to bits, but by golly, we won’t profile
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:51:17pm |
re: #47 wozzablog
profile *how*…?
everyone with a non-‘merkin sounding name?
everyone who doesn’t look like those other presidents on the money?…
U.S. Grant has a beard. Zap his junk.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:51:23pm |
re: #41 albusteve
If they’re persona non grata under the 14th Amendment and are not subject to US jurisdiction, that means they can’t be prosecuted for breaking any criminal laws. You really think that’s a good idea?
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:51:38pm |
re: #45 albusteve
if she’s elected, promise you won’t kill yourself?
I will not kill myself. I will pity the poor democrats who would have to live in a country with enough rubes to elect *her* though.
Upside - it’ll just mean more science research $ and graduates headed to the UK when she bans stemcell again………..
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Stanley Sea Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:52:45pm |
LOL thinking about the days - I wasn’t here, but heard about it, when any anti Palin comment would be down dinged to hell.
LOL
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:52:56pm |
re: #53 brookly red
lighten up jerky… I was speaking to I can has cheezburger speak…
oh Jesus, Stanly…
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:53:03pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
Wouldn’t work here.
We have many, many more times the number of people going through our airports.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:53:31pm |
re: #56 Lidane
If they’re persona non grata under the 14th Amendment and are not subject to US jurisdiction, that means they can’t be prosecuted for breaking any criminal laws. You really think that’s a good idea?
how did you deduce any ideas I might have?….don’t profile me
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:13pm |
Sorry for the early OT:
Tony Perkins the president of the “Family Research Council” has written an article that says that Blacks and Hispanics are too bigoted to serve alongside openly gay soldiers. Since (according to him) they will leave the military in massive numbers if “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” is repealed, that means we will have to bring back the draft..
No really, I’m serious, I wish it was just a very bad and tasteless joke, but it isn’t.
He even pre-emptively disputes the findings of the yet to be released survey of military members feelings about Gays serving openly and calls on Congress to disbelieve it’s findings for various non-sensical reasons.
Seems a bit strange to be advocating continuing discrimination against Gays for Racist and Foreignly Motivated Nationalistic reasons doesn’t it? Is it just me or does that seem to reek of clutching at straws? Straws that you have completely disavowed and distanced yourself from in earlier writings to boot.
My Gracious God, I hope he finds some pity for Tony Perkins when he comes to judgment. (really, I do)
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:21pm |
Profiling has to be visual to work quickly, so we’re limited to external factors like skin colour, hair colour, clothing, carried paraphernalia, and group association. Well trained observers can go beyond that to movement, attitude and silent communication between people.
Only one of these processes has a chance of success and can avoid unwarranted bigotry.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:24pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
well, in israel and the rest of the middle east the profiling wouldn’t be on the basis that palin imagines it should be: looks “middle-eastern”
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Cheechako Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:30pm |
re: #58 Stanley Sea
LOL thinking about the days - I wasn’t here, but heard about it, when any anti Palin comment would be down dinged to hell.
LOL
I’m truly sorry…I have been enlightened by LGF.
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jaunte Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:36pm |
re: #60 Varek Raith
Wouldn’t work here.
We have many, many more times the number of people going through our airports.
Numbers:
The National Air Traffic Controllers Association says that there are, on average, between 25,000 and 30,000 passenger flights in the US per day. ([Link: natca.org…] Let’s estimate conservatively and pick 25,000 as our number.Estimate that each airplane on average has 20 rows of people. (Yeah, some planes are much, much bigger, but the majority of planes are small.) Further guess that each row can hold 5 people on average. Then make a guess that on average a flight is 75% full, you get:
25,000 * 20 * 5 * 0.75 = 1,500,000 people per day
During burst periods (like Thanksgiving) the news is filled with reports that the airline expect to well exceed 2 million people each day, so 1.5 million on a normal day is probably not too bad a guess.
[Link: wiki.answers.com…]
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PhillyPretzel Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:37pm |
re: #60 Varek Raith
You are correct about the amount of people who travel. And too many folks would complain.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:38pm |
re: #58 Stanley Sea
LOL thinking about the days - I wasn’t here, but heard about it, when any anti Palin comment would be down dinged to hell.
LOL
I would have had negative karma out the wazoo if I’d been here in 2008. I was insulted by the Palin selection from the beginning, and I said so loudly and repeatedly.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:54:51pm |
re: #60 Varek Raith
Wouldn’t work here.
We have many, many more times the number of people going through our airports.
and - travelling by air is still by far the safest method of travel.
Rail and mass transit are pretty much undefended.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:55:00pm |
re: #57 wozzablog
I will not kill myself. I will pity the poor democrats who would have to live in a country with enough rubes to elect *her* though.
Upside - it’ll just mean more science research $ and graduates headed to the UK when she bans stemcell again…
you may want to review how our legislature works before crediting Palin with destroying civilization as we know it
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:55:12pm |
re: #60 Varek Raith
Wouldn’t work here.
We have many, many more times the number of people going through our airports.
Israel has two civilian airports to worry about.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:55:51pm |
re: #60 Varek Raith
Just O’Hare and Hartsfield have a hundred and fifty million or so passengers a year. Ben Gurion has 10.9 million.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:56:12pm |
re: #8 Charles
“Tweef”: n. a hastily posted comment on Twitter that ends up being incredibly embarrassing. See: elevator fart.
Funny, when I saw the word “tweef”, the first thing that came to my mind was “queef”.
;-P
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:56:23pm |
re: #61 PhillyPretzel
Why not?
What Varek said, plus whiny bitches would expect to be exempt because it should be obvious “They” were not terrorists.
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bratwurst Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:56:39pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
It works at a smallish airport where the flights are staggered throughout the day. The major US airports serve 4 or 5 times more passengers and have large numbers of flights leaving within minutes of each other during peak times.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:56:57pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
This is Wiki’s information on El Al’s airport procedures. I’m not sure that this process will find favor with people who find the current TSA procedure unbearably invasive or inappropriate. Bolding is mine.
Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low (see microexpression).[38]
At the check-in counter, passengers’ passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers’ names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives.[39] El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber.[40] Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms.[41]
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:57:09pm |
re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just O’Hare and Hartsfield have a hundred and fifty million or so passengers a year. Ben Gurion has 10.9 million.
dogs work good… they can even smell a bomb up yer butt.
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:57:21pm |
re: #71 albusteve
you may want to review how our legislature works before crediting Palin with destroying civilization as we know it
Banning federal funding for stem cell research was already done by a previous president - it created a chilling effect on the scientific community which moved research away or didn’t start it at all.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:57:33pm |
Lucky me, gets to leave the Palin debate. Going to theater under the stars to see Breakfast At Tiffany’s.
Have fun!
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:57:51pm |
re: #54 albusteve
yes, they profile…we may be blown to bits, but by golly, we won’t profile
You’re being overly simplistic. Profiling as proposed by your friends will seldom work, but will cause huge problems.
Think about it beyond your initial emotional response.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:58:18pm |
re: #54 albusteve
yes, they profile…we may be blown to bits, but by golly, we won’t profile
I don’t think most of the people harping on ‘profiling’ can really explain what it would consist of, or what kind of use it would be to us.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:58:34pm |
re: #70 wozzablog
and - travelling by air is still by far the safest method of travel.
Rail and mass transit are pretty much undefended.
not so much… many mass transit riders are strapped.
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Jimmah Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:59:19pm |
re: #58 Stanley Sea
LOL thinking about the days - I wasn’t here, but heard about it, when any anti Palin comment would be down dinged to hell.
LOL
Herds of wingnuts used to stretch to the far horizon round these parts…all Gone With The Wind now…
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:59:24pm |
re: #65 engineer dog
well, in israel and the rest of the middle east the profiling wouldn’t be on the basis that palin imagines it should be: looks “middle-eastern”
“OK, sound the alarm if anyone looks like an Arab.”
“Aaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee! THEY ALL DO! EXCEPT THAT GUY!!!!”
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:59:51pm |
Gratuitous OT, but I just found my newest guilty pleasure. They opened a store at the nearby mall and I bought myself some of their Earl Grey white tea. Yum!
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:59:57pm |
re: #53 brookly red
lighten up jerky… I was speaking to I can has cheezburger speak…
Brookly, it is possible to disagree without getting personal. N’est pas?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:00:02pm |
re: #72 Decatur Deb
Israel has two civilian airports to worry about.
They also do all the security at their own terminals worldwide, but still, a very small operation compared to US airlines.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:00:16pm |
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
yes, they profile…we may be blown to bits, but by golly, we won’t profile
el-al doesn’t profile by appearance. they have trained their people to ask questions that would make terrorists nervous and then look them in the eyes
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jaunte Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:00:42pm |
re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist
A designer I know traveled around the world with a photographer a couple of years ago to photograph some executives and facilities of the company he worked for. He was held for longer than he expected at Ben-Gurion airport when he told his interviewer they were there to shoot some people.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:00:56pm |
re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist
“Aaaaiiieee!”
- Every henchman on Johnny Quest right when he was about to get pwned.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:01:27pm |
re: #54 albusteve
yes, they profile…we may be blown to bits, but by golly, we won’t profile
How many instances of murder by explosion have occurred in the US? How many in Israel? The UK?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:01:29pm |
re: #88 b_sharp
Brookly, it is possible to disagree without getting personal. N’est pas?
yes exactly, I made a joke about the “cat speak” and got reamed for it…
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:01:34pm |
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Decatur Deb Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:01:42pm |
re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist
They also do all the security at their own terminals worldwide, but still, a very small operation compared to US airlines.
But they don’t do the security for national carriers originating outside. Big blind spot.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:02:28pm |
re: #93 b_sharp
How many instances of murder by explosion have occurred in the US? How many in Israel? The UK?
five?
eleven?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:02:39pm |
re: #90 engineer dog
re: #50 PhillyPretzel
As I said in a thread a while ago (a week or longer), “Let us take a page out of the EL-AL book.” It seems to work pretty well in Israel.
yes, they profile…we may be blown to bits, but by golly, we won’t profile
el-al doesn’t profile by appearance. they have trained their people to ask questions that would make terrorists nervous and then look them in the eyes
Which means you gotta talk to everyone. And you gotta have highly trained people talking to everyone.
We can’t do it.
Not to mention the reaction of people who already bitch about taking off their shoes to being asked about their profession, travel plans, who packed their bags…
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:02:51pm |
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:02:59pm |
re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist
“OK, sound the alarm if anyone looks like an Arab.”
“Aaaaiiieee! THEY ALL DO! EXCEPT THAT GUY!!!”
Ironically, that one guy would be the most likely real suspect
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bratwurst Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:03:21pm |
re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist
They also do all the security at their own terminals worldwide, but still, a very small operation compared to US airlines.
It is also a fact that major US international airports handle a LOT more flights to/from countries with a significant Al-Qaeda than Ben Gurion does.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:03:23pm |
re: #91 jaunte
A designer I know traveled around the world with a photographer a couple of years ago to photograph some executives and facilities of the company he worked for. He was held for longer than he expected at Ben-Gurion airport when he told his interviewer they were there to shoot some people.
El Al has no sense of humor. Ya gotta understand that about them, first thing.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:04:03pm |
re: #87 Lidane
Gratuitous OT, but I just found my newest guilty pleasure. They opened a store at the nearby mall and I bought myself some of their Earl Grey white tea. Yum!
Camellia sinensis. You can grow your own in most climates. Plants are available at your local nursery or online. Growing and processing tips available in my gardening article in the LGF cookbook.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:04:09pm |
submit or shut down all domestic air travel for three days…beat em until they cooperate
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:04:36pm |
re: #102 SanFranciscoZionist
El Al has no sense of humor. Ya gotta understand that about them, first thing.
neither do half the posters here
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Jimmah Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:05:01pm |
re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t think most of the people harping on ‘profiling’ can really explain what it would consist of, or what kind of use it would be to us.
The concept of terrorists ‘changing up’ with their choice of operatives to elude the profilers doesn’t occur to them, apparently.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:05:09pm |
I’m making a meal from the LGF Cookbook right now.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:05:31pm |
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Wozza Matter? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:05:46pm |
re: #99 brookly red
enough I guess…
now what exactly are you trying to say?
Nothing much, apparently.
Other than - the chance of someone wanting to commit a malicious act against a crowded train carriage is many many many percent less likely to be caught than someone trying to do so on a plane with the extra layers of security.
I’m not criticising a lack of security on mass transit - more than random stops and occasional sniffer dogs to keep people on guard is completely unworkable.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:05:52pm |
re: #104 albusteve
submit or shut down all domestic air travel for three days…beat em until they cooperate
Yes, because general strikes and work stoppages always do so much to win over public opinion in the long run.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:03pm |
re: #53 brookly red
lighten up jerky… I was speaking to I can has cheezburger speak…
what a horrible thing to say
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:06pm |
re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ironically, that one guy would be the most likely real suspect
No, he’s probably that blond IDF soldier who always gets grabbed by the international media to make Israelis look as white as possible while they interview him about whatever’s going on in the background. No matter how crappy his English.
/pet peeve. Hardly his fault, though.
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Lidane Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:10pm |
re: #103 Killgore Trout
Camellia sinensis. You can grow your own in most climates. Plants are available at your local nursery or online. Growing and processing tips available in my gardening article in the LGF cookbook.
Ooh. I’ll have to look into that.
My success rate at growing anything is spotty, but I’d be willing to try growing and processing my own tea. That would be pretty cool.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:12pm |
re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ironically, that one guy would be the most likely real suspect
seen the TV commercial where the two dudes are on cells talking about the newest game, when a cop pulls up to the guy in his car….stealing Russian choppers etc….hilarious
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Amory Blaine Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:17pm |
The beauty of the elevator fart is no one knows who did it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:19pm |
re: #101 bratwurst
It is also a fact that major US international airports handle a LOT more flights to/from countries with a significant Al-Qaeda than Ben Gurion does.
Indeed.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:23pm |
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:06:47pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:07:18pm |
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:07:36pm |
re: #107 Charles
I’m making a meal from the LGF Cookbook right now.
It will probably taste like cardboard unless you remove the cover. Oh, and the coil.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:07:48pm |
re: #107 Charles
I’m making a meal from the LGF Cookbook right now.
I was just thinking about the timing of what’s in my fridge. My thatnksgiving dinner is probably going to be from the lgf cookbook.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:07:58pm |
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:08:13pm |
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:08:26pm |
re: #91 jaunte
A designer I know traveled around the world with a photographer a couple of years ago to photograph some executives and facilities of the company he worked for. He was held for longer than he expected at Ben-Gurion airport when he told his interviewer they were there to shoot some people.
heh. that reminds me of the time when i was hitchhiking downtown to see some avant guarde short films make by women. the nice family who picked me up nearly gagged when i told them i was going downtown to see some ‘women’s underground shorts’
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:08:46pm |
re: #115 Amory Blaine
The beauty of the elevator fart is no one knows who did it.
Want to have some fun on a crowded elevator? Stand at the door and face the people. Try and make eye contact. Some will be brave… but most will not be.
I’ve done it many times. It is a hoot.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:08:49pm |
re: #117 brookly red
no shit
Or, and this may come as a shock, you aren’t as funny as you think you are?
;)
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:09:11pm |
re: #115 Amory Blaine
The beauty of the elevator fart is no one knows who did it.
Only if SBD.
Noisy farts identify the farter pretty quickly.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:09:18pm |
re: #114 albusteve
seen the TV commercial where the two dudes are on cells talking about the newest game, when a cop pulls up to the guy in his car…stealing Russian choppers etc…hilarious
A Best Buy ad for Call of Duty: Black Ops (which I play on PC), IIRC.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:09:31pm |
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Amory Blaine Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:09:38pm |
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Jimmah Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:10:10pm |
Italian Cardinal whines that gay activism is stifling his right to bigotry:
“The ideology of homosexuality” – as often happens to ideologies when they become aggressive and end up being politically triumphant “becomes a threat to our legitimate autonomy of thought: those who do not share it risk condemnation to a kind of cultural and social marginalisation,” said Cardinal Biffi.
“The attacks on freedom of thought start with language,” he wrote. “Those who do not resign themselves to accept ‘homophilia’ … are charged with ‘homophobia’.”
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:10:13pm |
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jaunte Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:10:16pm |
Nate Silver (fivethirtyeight) tweet:
TSA’s wait time calculator, which was once quite handy, has been disabled for almost 2 years. bit.ly
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:11:04pm |
re: #128 talon_262
A Best Buy ad for Call of Duty: Black Ops (which I play on PC), IIRC.
yes, I think so…I guess my gaming days are over….
unless Duke rises from the ashes….let’s get some!
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:11:20pm |
re: #127 b_sharp
Only if SBD.
Noisy farts identify the farter pretty quickly.
productive ones do too
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:12:07pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:12:33pm |
re: #113 Lidane
Ooh. I’ll have to look into that.
My success rate at growing anything is spotty, but I’d be willing to try growing and processing my own tea. That would be pretty cool.
It’s a very trouble free plant once you know how to treat it. Drought and frost tolerant. Once established one plant per tea drinker in the household should be plenty. Check out my article in the cookbook for the general idea but I’ll be more than happy to answer any questions/problems you encounter.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:12:42pm |
re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Want to have some fun on a crowded elevator? Stand at the door and face the people. Try and make eye contact. Some will be brave… but most will not be.
I’ve done it many times. It is a hoot.
I’m afraid to ask what that says about you…I just speak out, I’m very extroverted like that
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:13:30pm |
re: #131 Jimmah
Italian Cardinal whines that gay activism is stifling his right to bigotry:
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]
Methinks the bird brain needs to take a class in critical thinking and familiarize himself with the false dichotomy.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:14:19pm |
re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Want to have some fun on a crowded elevator? Stand at the door and face the people. Try and make eye contact. Some will be brave… but most will not be.
I’ve done it many times. It is a hoot.
even more fun - strip down naked and stand at the door of the elevator facing the people.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:14:27pm |
re: #135 albusteve
yes, I think so…I guess my gaming days are over…
unless Duke rises from the ashes…let’s get some!
Hell Has Frozen Over!!!111!!!!
(maybe)
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:15:04pm |
re: #141 cliffster
even more fun - strip down naked and stand at the door of the elevator facing the people.
That should get a laugh.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:15:23pm |
re: #135 albusteve
yes, I think so…I guess my gaming days are over…
unless Duke rises from the ashes…let’s get some!
Didn’t you know Duke’s back? Duke Nukem Forever is finally about to be finished and released, early to mid-next year, IIRC.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:15:44pm |
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:16:03pm |
re: #144 b_sharp
That should get a laugh.
I did it one time - almost everyone in the elevator had a stroke.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:16:29pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:16:35pm |
re: #142 jaunte
Build your own airplane in two weeks:
[Link: www.wired.com…]
DIY TSA gropes? Where’s the fun in that?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:16:53pm |
re: #147 cliffster
I did it one time - almost everyone in the elevator had a stroke.
You are a lucky man. They should call you Mr. feel good.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:17:26pm |
re: #145 talon_262
Didn’t you know Duke’s back? Duke Nukem Forever is finally about to be finished and released, early to mid-next year, IIRC.
I’ve heard it here…getting close eh?
I’m a big Dukehead
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jaunte Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:17:28pm |
re: #150 Killgore Trout
The plane is $200,000; I think the groper is a extra.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:18:26pm |
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:18:42pm |
re: #135 albusteve
yes, I think so…I guess my gaming days are over…
unless Duke rises from the ashes…let’s get some!
He will.
He. Will.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:18:54pm |
Palin’s publisher sues Gawker over book excerpts
“U R stealin’ mah wurds!”
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:19:12pm |
re: #147 cliffster
I did it one time - almost everyone in the elevator had a stroke.
I one was on the A train & someone died around High street (heart attack I guess) but the poor bastard didn’t have enough room to fall down till B-way/Nassau
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:20:49pm |
all they have to do to get over this airport groper outrage is to offer a choice of attractive groper
with enough frequent flyer miles you could get to be groped by two fashion models at the same time
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:21:18pm |
re: #154 cliffster
Foxworthy had a funny joke. He and a friend would stand facing the door at the front of a crowded elevator (his story, anyway) and the friend would say, “Well. Okay, I’ll take your case. But why did you stab the guy?”
Jeff’d say, “‘Cause he kept staring at the back of my head.”
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:21:18pm |
re: #158 engineer dog
all they have to do to get over this airport groper outrage is to offer a choice of attractive groper
with enough frequent flyer miles you could get to be groped by two fashion models at the same time
Problem is ,, why would they want to grope YOU !?!?!
//
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:21:50pm |
re: #155 Varek Raith
He will.
He. Will.
well, he came along at just the right time for me…I was Doomed out and done with a few others I don’t recall….Duke was a breath of fresh air….really innovative and funny….I just don’t see how such a popular game goes belly up like he did…if the game is good, I predict monster profits
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:22:48pm |
re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Foxworthy had a funny joke. He and a friend would stand facing the door at the front of a crowded elevator (his story, anyway) and the friend would say, “Well. Okay, I’ll take your case. But why did you stab the guy?”
Jeff’d say, “‘Cause he kept staring at the back of my head.”
Fuck you I was acquitted… get over it.
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:23:10pm |
re: #107 Charles
I’m making a meal from the LGF Cookbook right now.
Don’t forget you need to add the blood of virginal pre-pubescent Christian boys to your Matzos to make them taste right, I always wondered what I was missing before, but now that I tried it…perfection!
/// (see littlegreenfootballs.com )
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jaunte Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:23:21pm |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
She’s not very original.
“America By Heart: Reflections on Family, Faith and Flag”
Compare to:
“Tory values are not dead, nor is Tory England. Both lack a voice. We have become too concerned with being on-message, and not with the message itself. Faith, flag and family are at the heart of Tory thinking.
Tory Right rallies around faith, flag and the family
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JamesWI Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:23:27pm |
re: #145 talon_262
Didn’t you know Duke’s back? Duke Nukem Forever is finally about to be finished and released, early to mid-next year, IIRC.
I’ll believe it when I see it. How long has it been since it was first supposed to have come out? Like 15 years?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:23:35pm |
re: #163 brookly red
Fuck you I was acquitted… get over it.
They ever check your freezer for human heads?
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:24:06pm |
re: #166 JamesWI
I’ll believe it when I see it. How long has it been since it was first supposed to have come out? Like 15 years?
I’m holding out for Battletoads II.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:24:33pm |
re: #167 sattv4u2
They ever check your freezer for human heads?
Pff, thats what the root cellar is for.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:24:33pm |
re: #157 brookly red
I one was on the A train & someone died around High street (heart attack I guess) but the poor bastard didn’t have enough room to fall down till B-way/Nassau
If he was at a soccer game in Europe, they might have unknowingly given him CPR and he would have lived.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:24:52pm |
re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’m holding out for Battletoads II.
I had that in a Cajun restaurant in New Orleans years ago!
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:25:35pm |
re: #167 sattv4u2
They ever check your freezer for human heads?
mostly frozen ravioli… but 3 bags are registered to vote.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:26:22pm |
re: #167 sattv4u2
They ever check your freezer for human heads?
They did, but Brookly had disguised them as bowling balls.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:26:25pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:26:53pm |
re: #170 cliffster
If he was at a soccer game in Europe, they might have unknowingly given him CPR and he would have lived.
Liverpool rocks!
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:27:57pm |
re: #172 brookly red
mostly frozen ravioli… but 3 bags are registered to vote.
That old huh? You might want to just throw those out instead of trying to eat them…just sayin… ;)
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:29:02pm |
re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Suddenly in the Palin house;
“WILLOW! GET THE HELL OFF MY BLACKBERRY!”
If it were Willow, it would just be txt shortcodes, and it would make more sense even so.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:29:39pm |
re: #176 ausador
That old huh? You might want to just throw those out instead of trying to eat them…just sayin… ;)
survival is what survival does… or something like that.
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:31:41pm |
re: #177 Dark_Falcon
If it were Willow, it would just be txt shortcodes, and it would make more sense even so.
Naw, she uses the big words.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:31:55pm |
re: #172 brookly red
mostly frozen ravioli… but 3 bags are registered to vote.
You’d better watch out. They might just stage a coup d’etat against the steak or the ice cream.
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:33:34pm |
re: #180 EmmmieG
You’d better watch out. They might just stage a coup d’etat against the steak or the ice cream.
lol The Great Freezer War of 2010?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:33:39pm |
re: #180 EmmmieG
You’d better watch out. They might just stage a coup d’etat against the steak or the ice cream.
no problemo, I don’t do meat or sugar… bad for chi lie.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:34:00pm |
re: #167 sattv4u2
They ever check your freezer for human heads?
When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign in front of my house that said “Dead Hooker Storage”?
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:35:44pm |
re: #183 negativ
When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign in front of my house that said “Dead Hooker Storage”?
number 4 is kinda cute, how much to thaw her out?
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:35:45pm |
re: #183 negativ
When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign in front of my house that said “Dead Hooker Storage”?
You mean the one below the Bubba’s Pizza Hause and Crematorium sign?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:35:50pm |
re: #182 brookly red
no problemo, I don’t do meat or sugar… bad for chi lie.
sugar free ice cream?….you friggin alien, you don’t deserve to live
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:35:52pm |
re: #179 marjoriemoon
Naw, she uses the big words.
[Link: wonkette.com…]
I saw that. Not very nice, but she’s 16 and entitled to make 1 or 2 stupid mistakes.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:37:55pm |
re: #186 albusteve
sugar free ice cream?…you friggin alien, you don’t deserve to live
Ice-cream is for the weak.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:38:07pm |
re: #183 negativ
When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign in front of my house that said “Dead Hooker Storage”?
OK, Mr. Wolf…
;-P
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:38:32pm |
re: #49 engineer dog
and yet… and yet… i keep on remembering how we all thought ronald reagan would be the easiest republican to beat at the beginning of 1980…
Trust me. Reagan was brighter, a lot more experienced, and way more level headed than Palin. All these things matter in a presidential contest.
Reagan had been governor of CA. And he didn’t quit.
As to being easy to beat, considering the pass Carter had brought the nation to, a stuffed elephant would have won in 1980. If Obama is running for reelection in an environment of 20% inflation, 10% unemployment, gas rationing, and military humiliation, he’ll lose. It simply won’t matter how bad the Republican candidate is, and the only defense to a truly ridiculous Republican nominee will be for sober Democrats to go vote in the Republican primaries for a sober Republican.
If things are not so dire as all that, and they probably won’t be, Obama will win easily against an exceptionally ridiculous Republican, [e.g. Palin] and he’ll stand a good chance against a lackluster Republican. If there’s better than that available on the R side, he’s yet to attain national prominence.
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Amory Blaine Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:39:24pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:40:51pm |
re: #190 lostlakehiker
Trust me. Reagan was brighter, a lot more experienced, and way more level headed than Palin. All these things matter in a presidential contest.
Reagan had been governor of CA. And he didn’t quit.
As to being easy to beat, considering the pass Carter had brought the nation to, a stuffed elephant would have won in 1980. If Obama is running for reelection in an environment of 20% inflation, 10% unemployment, gas rationing, and military humiliation, he’ll lose. It simply won’t matter how bad the Republican candidate is, and the only defense to a truly ridiculous Republican nominee will be for sober Democrats to go vote in the Republican primaries for a sober Republican.
If things are not so dire as all that, and they probably won’t be, Obama will win easily against an exceptionally ridiculous Republican, [e.g. Palin] and he’ll stand a good chance against a lackluster Republican. If there’s better than that available on the R side, he’s yet to attain national prominence.
Uhhh, I am looking at the mid-term & I am thinking no, not so much.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:40:54pm |
re: #183 negativ
When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign in front of my house that said “Dead Hooker Storage”?
That is a tasty frozen burger.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:41:39pm |
gurlz who play guitarz…
Susan Tedeschi
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:41:59pm |
re: #183 negativ
When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign in front of my house that said “Dead Hooker Storage”?
does that include the meth?
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:42:02pm |
re: #187 Dark_Falcon
I saw that. Not very nice, but she’s 16 and entitled to make 1 or 2 stupid mistakes.
What’s Bristol’s excuse? I think it’s ok to hold Palin’s kids to a higher standard.
GOProud defended her, apparently. I wonder what they would say if one of Obama’s daughters started dropping the F bomb (and I don’t mean intercourse).
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:42:31pm |
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:44:20pm |
re: #192 brookly red
Uhhh, I am looking at the mid-term & I am thinking no, not so much.
so how are the republicans in the house going to escape taking their share of the blame if the economy is still in the crapper?
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Tiny alien kittens are watching you Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:44:28pm |
re: #63 ausador
Sorry for the early OT:
Tony Perkins the president of the “Family Research Council” has written an article that says that Blacks and Hispanics are too bigoted to serve alongside openly gay soldiers. Since (according to him) they will leave the military in massive numbers if “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” is repealed, that means we will have to bring back the draft..
No really, I’m serious, I wish it was just a very bad and tasteless joke, but it isn’t.
He even pre-emptively disputes the findings of the yet to be released survey of military members feelings about Gays serving openly and calls on Congress to disbelieve it’s findings for various non-sensical reasons.
Seems a bit strange to be advocating continuing discrimination against Gays for Racist and Foreignly Motivated Nationalistic reasons doesn’t it? Is it just me or does that seem to reek of clutching at straws? Straws that you have completely disavowed and distanced yourself from in earlier writings to boot.
My Gracious God, I hope he finds some pity for Tony Perkins when he comes to judgment. (really, I do)
BTW, another thought just struck me, why is “whitebread” Tony Perkins seemingly advocating the inclusion of more Blacks and Hispanics in the military? Usually this would seem to be something he was against, or at least he has not been openly adverse to their leaving the services wholesale before now.
Sure he wants them out of the military too, but right now it is just more expedient to use them against the Gays first, then later he can move on to the other “undesirables” I guess?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:44:35pm |
re: #188 brookly red
Ice-cream is for the weak.
this Buds for you, Mr kelpfaced, tofubutt, gastrostarved beanpole
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:44:39pm |
A article on the TSA controversy worth looking at:
TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast
A longtime Charlotte, N.C., flight attendant and cancer survivor told a local television station that she was forced to show her prosthetic breast during a pat-down.
Cathy Bossi, who works for U.S. Airways, said she received the pat-down after declining to do the full-body scan because of radiation concerns.
The TSA screener “put her full hand on my breast and said, ‘What is this?’ ” Bossi told the station. “And I said, ‘It’s my prosthesis because I’ve had breast cancer.’ And she said, ‘Well, you’ll need to show me that.’ “
Bossi said she removed the prosthetic from her bra. She did not take the name of the agent, she said, “because it was just so horrific of an experience, I couldn’t believe someone had done that to me. I’m a flight attendant. I was just trying to get to work.”
For Americans who wear prosthetics — either because they are cancer survivors or have lost a limb — or who have undergone hip replacements or have a pacemaker, the humiliation of the TSA’s new security procedures — choosing between a body scan or body search — is even worse.
The words “hip replacements” were bolded by me, since they are a matter of special concern for me. My parents both have them and the new procedures may well pose a serious problem for them.
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AlexRogan Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:45:04pm |
re: #190 lostlakehiker
Trust me. Reagan was brighter, a lot more experienced, and way more level headed than Palin. All these things matter in a presidential contest.
Reagan had been governor of CA. And he didn’t quit.
As to being easy to beat, considering the pass Carter had brought the nation to, a stuffed elephant would have won in 1980. If Obama is running for reelection in an environment of 20% inflation, 10% unemployment, gas rationing, and military humiliation, he’ll lose. It simply won’t matter how bad the Republican candidate is, and the only defense to a truly ridiculous Republican nominee will be for sober Democrats to go vote in the Republican primaries for a sober Republican.
If things are not so dire as all that, and they probably won’t be, Obama will win easily against an exceptionally ridiculous Republican, [e.g. Palin] and he’ll stand a good chance against a lackluster Republican. If there’s better than that available on the R side, he’s yet to attain national prominence.
As bad as the current crop of Republicans (and the GOP leadership) is, I want the GOP to wise up, get healthy, and kick the kooks to the curb…one-party rule by default is no good to anyone and the Democrats would likely get comfortable and complacent, stagnate, and ossify without credible opposition.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:45:07pm |
re: #189 talon_262
OK, Mr. Wolf…
;-P
I’m positive if Uncle Conrad and Aunt Ginny were millionaires, they would’ve furnished you with a whole bedroom set, which your Uncle Marsellus is more than happy to do.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:45:15pm |
re: #197 brookly red
damn! you leaked… now you know what comes next…
whatever.. give me my wallet - it’s the one that says “BADMOTHERFUCKER”
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:47:48pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
A article on the TSA controversy worth looking at:
TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast
The words “hip replacements” were bolded by me, since they are a matter of special concern for me. My parents both have them and the new procedures may well pose a serious problem for them.
My daughter has a piece of metal in her skull (from having to have a growth removed from the bone when she was 8).
I have a letter from her doc that she carries with her when she travels by plane. She’s never had to use it, but you never know …
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:48:37pm |
re: #196 marjoriemoon
What’s Bristol’s excuse? I think it’s ok to hold Palin’s kids to a higher standard.
GOProud defended her, apparently. I wonder what they would say if one of Obama’s daughters started dropping the F bomb (and I don’t mean intercourse).
Oh, I’d not saying what she did is good, but I’m saying that some consideration should be given to her age. 16 year olds do stupid things and its best to extend some forgiveness when they do. And a 20 year old dropping the F-bomb is a very different matter than an 11 year old doing it.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:49:23pm |
re: #198 engineer dog
so how are the republicans in the house going to escape taking their share of the blame if the economy is still in the crapper?
sounds good in your head I’m sure, but you recollect 2006?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:49:31pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
Oh, I’d not saying what she did is good, but I’m saying that some consideration should be given to her age. 16 year olds do stupid things and its best to extend some forgiveness when they do. And a 20 year old dropping the F-bomb is a very different matter than an 11 year old doing it.
If I had a wand I would use the amnesias spell on everyone to make them forget what I was like 12-17. Or maybe 13-20. Not sure.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:49:56pm |
re: #198 engineer dog
so how are the republicans in the house going to escape taking their share of the blame if the economy is still in the crapper?
well if they don’t help fix it, they won’t.
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:50:07pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
A article on the TSA controversy worth looking at:
TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast
The words “hip replacements” were bolded by me, since they are a matter of special concern for me. My parents both have them and the new procedures may well pose a serious problem for them.
As to hip replacements, they should opt for a pat down then, as bizarre as that is.
Asking a flight attendant to remove her prosthetic is insane and ridiculous. I’m hoping it’s just a matter of getting these new procedures ironed out and that some discretion be made by the agents.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:50:16pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
Oh, I’d not saying what she did is good, but I’m saying that some consideration should be given to her age. 16 year olds do stupid things and its best to extend some forgiveness when they do. And a 20 year old dropping the F-bomb is a very different matter than an 11 year old doing it.
Todd and Sarah…the new Ward and June
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:50:51pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:52:05pm |
re: #204 cliffster
whatever.. give me my wallet - it’s the one that says “BADMOTHERFUCKER”
sure… just tell your wife how we came across your wallet…
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:52:37pm |
re: #208 EmmmieG
If I had a wand I would use the amnesias spell on everyone to make them forget what I was like 12-17. Or maybe 13-20. Not sure.
I would add 20-25 in there, for me.
LOL.
geez, I was stupid.
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prairiefire Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:52:39pm |
re: #179 marjoriemoon
Naw, she uses the big words.
[Link: wonkette.com…]
That whole family deserves a time out for name calling.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:53:32pm |
re: #205 reine.de.tout
My daughter has a piece of metal in her skull (from having to have a growth removed from the bone when she was 8).
I have a letter from her doc that she carries with her when she travels by plane. She’s never had to use it, but you never know …
Her skull,.,or the letter!?!?!
////
{sorry ,,, I’m in a goofy mood!!}
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:55:17pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
re: #208 EmmmieG
I hear ya and I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just think we expect a certain amount of decorum from these particular kids. Goodness knows the kind of microscope that’s placed on presidential kids. Remember when Jenna Bush stuck her tongue out at the paparazzi? Actually, that was pretty funny.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:57:18pm |
re: #217 marjoriemoon
re: #208 EmmmieG
I hear ya and I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just think we expect a certain amount of decorum from these particular kids. Goodness knows the kind of microscope that’s placed on presidential kids. Remember when Jenna Bush stuck her tongue out at the paparazzi? Actually, that was pretty funny.
any voyeur that finds Palins kids interesting should consider a lobotomy…jus sayin
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 7:59:19pm |
re: #218 albusteve
any voyeur that finds Palins kids interesting should consider a lobotomy…jus sayin
If you get to the bottom of that Wonkette article, I think the editor pretty much gave himself one after posting.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:01:07pm |
re: #218 albusteve
any voyeur that finds Palins kids interesting should consider a lobotomy…jus sayin
entertainment fusion. Take a poll of people that can name 5 senators. ask those same people to name 5 Real Housewives. then ask again how palin gets so much attention.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:01:39pm |
re: #220 marjoriemoon
If you get to the bottom of that Wonkette article, I think the editor pretty much gave himself one after posting.
here he is….this is what will happen to all the Palin punchers…
yourinternets.com
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:02:20pm |
re: #210 marjoriemoon
As to hip replacements, they should opt for a pat down then, as bizarre as that is.
Asking a flight attendant to remove her prosthetic is insane and ridiculous. I’m hoping it’s just a matter of getting these new procedures ironed out and that some discretion be made by the agents.
For my dad, that’s likely what he’ll do. I can’t speak to the matter regarding my mother, and I need to leave things with her at that.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:03:46pm |
did I just hear the radio man correctly? 35 air strikes per day in Pakistan?
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:03:51pm |
re: #221 cliffster
entertainment fusion. Take a poll of people that can name 5 senators. ask those same people to name 5 Real Housewives. then ask again how palin gets so much attention.
we need a competency test for voters…count to ten, identify three colors etc
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:04:35pm |
re: #223 Dark_Falcon
For my dad, that’s likely what he’ll do. I can’t speak to the matter regarding my mother, and I need to leave things with her at that.
I think it’s all invasive and uncomfortable, but what’s the option? A bus? You’re basically trading 10 minutes of discomfort for 3 days, so….
It’s going to save lives and I think it’s worth it.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:04:52pm |
re: #224 brookly red
did I just hear the radio man correctly? 35 air strikes per day in Pakistan?
don’t know…a sortie is one plane, one strike
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:05:16pm |
re: #221 cliffster
entertainment fusion. Take a poll of people that can name 5 senators. ask those same people to name 5 Real Housewives. then ask again how palin gets so much attention.
I can name many Senators and none of the current “Real Housewives”. The only one of them I know of is Bethany of New Jersey and then only because of her getting her own show (the promos ran during L&O: Criminal Intent on Bravo).
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:05:47pm |
re: #204 cliffster
whatever.. give me my wallet - it’s the one that says “BADMOTHERFUCKER”
Jules, if you give that fuckin’ nimrod fifteen hundred dollars, I’m gonna shoot him on general principle.
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Claire Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:05:55pm |
re: #74 talon_262
Funny, when I saw the word “tweef”, the first thing that came to my mind was “queef”.
Yes, that’s the association you’re supposed to make. I really hope the term doesn’t catch on. It’s pretty gross. Urban Dictionary.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:06:17pm |
re: #219 albusteve
Bonnie is invited to all my birthday parties. She hasn’t come to any yet, but she’s a busy lady. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t love me.
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engineer cat Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:06:30pm |
re: #209 brookly red
well if they don’t help fix it, they won’t.
that reminds me of a lightbulb joke: how many free market economists does it take to change a lightbulb?
none. just let market forces take their course and the lightbulb will be incentivized to change itself
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:06:34pm |
re: #226 marjoriemoon
I think it’s all invasive and uncomfortable, but what’s the option? A bus? You’re basically trading 10 minutes of discomfort for 3 days, so…
It’s going to save lives and I think it’s worth it.
I’m just going to take the train or not travel, most likely the latter.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:07:21pm |
re: #227 albusteve
don’t know…a sortie is one plane, one strike
I do believe this is all drone action…
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:07:46pm |
re: #227 albusteve
don’t know…a sortie is one plane, one strike
A sortie doesn’t mean an attack per se.
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:07:47pm |
re: #223 Dark_Falcon
For my dad, that’s likely what he’ll do. I can’t speak to the matter regarding my mother, and I need to leave things with her at that.
And btw, it doesn’t seem to make sense to remove her prosthetic. Don’t they still use the walk-through xray? It would have beeped if there was any metal on her and there’s no metal in that prosthetic.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:08:15pm |
re: #234 brookly red
I do believe this is all drone action…
The term still applies: 1 flight by one drone is a sortie.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:08:30pm |
re: #231 cliffster
Bonnie is invited to all my birthday parties. She hasn’t come to any yet, but she’s a busy lady. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t love me.
she does…I saw her last summer with Taj Mahal…the Bon-Taj Rouxlez Tour…she is a whopping talent
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prairiefire Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:08:48pm |
re: #231 cliffster
Beverly Hills real housewives
Lisa
Camille
Kyle
Kim
Taylor
US Senators
Harry Reid
Joe Lieberman
Claire McCaskill
John McCain
Chuck Schumer
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reine.de.tout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:09:42pm |
re: #216 sattv4u2
Her skull,.,or the letter!?!?!
///
{sorry ,,, I’m in a goofy mood!!}
*snort*
her skull, of course, silly!
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:09:49pm |
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:11:19pm |
re: #237 Dark_Falcon
The term still applies: 1 flight by one drone is a sortie.
well if we are conducting 35 air strikes per day against Pakistan who is supposedly our friend… something kinda weird is going on.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:11:57pm |
re: #242 brookly red
well if we are conducting 35 air strikes per day against Pakistan who is supposedly our friend… something kinda weird is going on.
“You always hurt, the ones you love, the ones you really shouldn’t hurt at all!!”
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:12:22pm |
re: #239 prairiefire
Beverly Hills real housewives
Lisa
Camille
Kyle
Kim
TaylorUS Senators
Harry Reid
Joe Lieberman
Claire McCaskill
John McCain
Chuck Schumer
Nicely done. A true Renaissance Person you are..
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:12:46pm |
re: #243 sattv4u2
“You always hurt, the ones you love, the ones you really shouldn’t hurt at all!!”
cool.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:13:00pm |
re: #208 EmmmieG
If I had a wand I would use the amnesias spell on everyone to make them forget what I was like 12-17. Or maybe 13-20. Not sure.
If we divide our lives into segments of, say, five years - and if we’re completely honest with ourselves - then each five-year segment probably begins with the realization of how unbelievably stupid we were five years ago. Ergo, life consists of progressively more depressing self-awareness. Unless you have no self-awareness at all, in which case you’re probably a politician.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:14:29pm |
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
I’m just going to take the train or not travel, most likely the latter.
I see no reason not to continue to fly at this point.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:15:00pm |
re: #246 negativ
If we divide our lives into segments of, say, five years - and if we’re completely honest with ourselves - then each five-year segment probably begins with the realization of how unbelievably stupid we were five years ago. Ergo, life consists of progressively more depressing self-awareness. Unless you have no self-awareness at all, in which case you’re probably
a politicianSarah Palin.
improved
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:15:02pm |
the incomparable Taj…
Queen Bee
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:15:46pm |
re: #242 brookly red
well if we are conducting 35 air strikes per day against Pakistan who is supposedly our friend… something kinda weird is going on.
Something kinda weird has been going on for nearly a decade up that way. And we’re not striking Pakistani troops.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:16:06pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
I see no reason not to continue to fly at this point.
It’s just a mess that I don’t need. And it’s academic, as I lack the money to travel.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:16:11pm |
re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist
Something kinda weird has been going on for nearly a decade up that way. And we’re not striking Pakistani troops.
Or cities.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:16:41pm |
re: #243 sattv4u2
“You always hurt, the ones you love, the ones you really shouldn’t hurt at all!!”
Aaaand of course this makes me think of Fallout 3 / New Vegas….
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:16:51pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
I see no reason not to continue to fly at this point.
I am in the center of the universe… I see no need to fly anywhere ;)
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:17:34pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
I see no reason not to continue to fly at this point.
Not holding a hissy fit when a security procedure becomes an incovenience means you’ve let the terrorists win.
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brookly red Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:18:19pm |
re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist
Something kinda weird has been going on for nearly a decade up that way. And we’re not striking Pakistani troops.
hmmmm
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:18:49pm |
re: #253 negativ
[Video]
Aaaand of course this makes me think of Fallout 3 / New Vegas…
Personally, this is my favorite NV song
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:19:41pm |
re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist
Or cities.
the Talis have been slowly working back from Pstan from Astan…as bad as it’s been for NATO, it’s far worse for them in Astan….a few more stand up fights and they will have to go to ground again….that’s what the surge is supposed to accomlish
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:27:31pm |
re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist
I see no reason not to continue to fly at this point.
Last time I flew was 1994. Horrible puddle jumper from Waco, TX to DFW. Southwest Airlines 737 from DFW to Palm Beach International. Similar arrangement on the way back. Not a terribly long flight.
I would be hesitant to do it again, even under cavalier 1994 circumstances, if my life depended on it. Primary reason being that Hell is other people.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:28:22pm |
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:28:46pm |
re: #202 talon_262
As bad as the current crop of Republicans (and the GOP leadership) is, I want the GOP to wise up, get healthy, and kick the kooks to the curb…one-party rule by default is no good to anyone and the Democrats would likely get comfortable and complacent, stagnate, and ossify without credible opposition.
Sociopaths are drawn to power like moths to light, or flies to horse droppings. They settle in by making the game nasty for decent people, even as the best and brightest come to believe that their work is done and that politics may safely be left to second-raters.
There’s a dynamic—-the one party gets fat, happy, and nasty, while the other party wanders in the wilderness and eventually bites the bullet and reforms itself at least a little. At the same time, the other party is less of a magnet for sociopaths, because where’s the power?
And so back and forth we go, never reaching utopia because human nature has its nasty side.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:30:20pm |
re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Mine would be this:
After you inevitably hear it for the 900th time in the game, you start to interpret the lyrics differently. Right now, I think of the protagonist of the song having a large clothes iron attached to his hip somehow.
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:31:48pm |
re: #261 negativ
Last time I flew was 1994. Horrible puddle jumper from Waco, TX to DFW. Southwest Airlines 737 from DFW to Palm Beach International. Similar arrangement on the way back. Not a terribly long flight.
I would be hesitant to do it again, even under cavalier 1994 circumstances, if my life depended on it. Primary reason being that Hell is other people.
We fly about twice a year. Family is all over the U.S. It’s not so bad. A little booze usually helps. Actually, it’s one of the few times I drink!
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lostlakehiker Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:32:24pm |
As to flying, why not? Unless they’re going to rip my fingernails off and melt me into a crying puddle, which of course can be done to any man, I can take the affront to my dignity so long as the insult is universal, no exceptions nohow.
I’ve got places to go and things to do once in a while, and the train doesn’t go to all of them.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:33:15pm |
for me, flying is secondary to my destination and further events…I can deal with whatever the TSA has up their sleeve, I’ve suffered worse
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:33:43pm |
re: #258 albusteve
the Talis have been slowly working back from Pstan from Astan…as bad as it’s been for NATO, it’s far worse for them in Astan…a few more stand up fights and they will have to go to ground again…that’s what the surge is supposed to accomlish
I just read that the Marines are bringing in a company of 16 M1A2s to help crush the Taliban in Kandahar. Their canister and HE rounds are just the ticket to killing Talibs wholesale. They try to defend a house, we just bring in the tanks and knock it down.
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albusteve Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:35:02pm |
re: #268 Dark_Falcon
I just read that the Marines are bringing in a company of 16 M1A2s to help crush the Taliban in Kandahar. Their canister and HE rounds are just the ticket to killing Talibs wholesale. They try to defend a house, we just bring in the tanks and knock it down.
I read that too…GUNG HO!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:35:23pm |
Here’s the good news and the bad news….
Support for Hamas, Iran dropping among Gaza Palestinians
Poll: 56% of Gazans, 53% of W. Bank Palestinians view Hamas negatively; 60% accept two-state solution but most see it as step to one-state solution.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:35:28pm |
Nanci Griffith - These Troubled Fields
You’ll be the mule
I’ll be the plow
Come harvest time
we’ll work it out
There’s still a lot of love
here in these troubled fields
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What, me worry? Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:36:32pm |
re: #266 lostlakehiker
As to flying, why not? Unless they’re going to rip my fingernails off and melt me into a crying puddle, which of course can be done to any man, I can take the affront to my dignity so long as the insult is universal, no exceptions nohow.
I’ve got places to go and things to do once in a while, and the train doesn’t go to all of them.
Seriously, there isn’t anything TSA is going to do that hasn’t been done on date with a guy you’ve said No to 3 times already. Of course, you can’t slap TSA in the face.
I’m prone to giggling. That’s probably my greatest fear.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:36:54pm |
re: #191 Amory Blaine
Anyone ever play this game?
Herzog Zwei
[Video]
Played that fucking shit-tons on the Sega Genesis. Shit-tons.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:37:57pm |
re: #264 negativ
Mine would be this:
[Video]
After you inevitably hear it for the 900th time in the game, you start to interpret the lyrics differently. Right now, I think of the protagonist of the song having a large clothes iron attached to his hip somehow.
Boone and I hit Caesar’s Fort and this song came on the radio. I teared up.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:38:58pm |
… now, if he touches ME with HIS junk, we got problems
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:39:25pm |
re: #271 cliffster
Nanci Griffith - These Troubled Fields
[Video]
Andy Griffith drinks your milkshake
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PT Barnum Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:39:55pm |
evening all…kids let us take the grandson for the weekend. 4 month olds are pretty fun..they’re just starting to get a personality of their own.
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Four More Tears Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:41:02pm |
re: #274 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Boone and I hit Caesar’s Fort and this song came on the radio. I teared up.
[Video]
I can’t believe how they F’ed up energy weapons in this game. Thank the maker for mods.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:41:58pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:42:07pm |
re: #276 cliffster
… now, if he touches ME with HIS junk, we got problems
You mean without paying first, right?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:43:09pm |
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:43:43pm |
re: #279 JasonA
I can’t believe how they F’ed up energy weapons in this game. Thank the maker for mods.
Never used them.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:43:45pm |
re: #191 Amory Blaine
Anyone ever play this game?
Herzog Zwei
I don’t have any vidyah game consoles, current or otherwise. However, I’ve seen no evidence to indicate that there has ever been a console game better than Contra.
Bionic Commando is a close second, though.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:43:45pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:46:17pm |
re: #284 negativ
I don’t have any vidyah game consoles, current or otherwise. However, I’ve seen no evidence to indicate that there has ever been a console game better than Contra.
[Video]Bionic Commando is a close second, though.
Bionic Commando was a much longer game, though. You really couldn’t play it in one sitting.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:47:25pm |
re: #274 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’m not going to bother looking this up, but I wonder if the ‘playlist’ is partially determined by your companion.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:49:25pm |
re: #282 Dark_Falcon
SMACK!
That costs $20 bucks a pop. $45 if you want to be the one doing the smacking.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:54:05pm |
re: #288 cliffster
a little weekend pick-you-up..
About the only Rage Against the Machine (Except Sony) song I truly like is ‘Freedom’. I mainly like the Black Sabbath-ish riff.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 8:55:07pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:03:11pm |
Interesting piece by Charles Krauthammer:
Ah, the airport, where modern folk heroes are made. The airport, where that inspired flight attendant did what everyone who’s ever been in the spam-in-a-can crush of a flying aluminum tube — where we collectively pretend that a clutch of peanuts is a meal and a seat cushion is a “flotation device” — has always dreamed of doing: pull the lever, blow the door, explode the chute, grab a beer, slide to the tarmac, and walk through the gates to the sanity that lies beyond. Not since Rick and Louis disappeared into the Casablanca fog headed for the Free French garrison in Brazzaville has a stroll on the tarmac thrilled so many.
Who cares that the crazed steward got arrested, pleaded guilty to sundry charges, and probably was a rude, unpleasant S.O.B to begin with? Bonnie and Clyde were psychopaths, yet what child of the ’60s did not fall in love with Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty?
I like the classic movie references, though anyone smart would be deterred from crime by the amount of fire Frank Hamer and the Texas rangers poured into Bonnie and Clyde.
This article is worrisome, though. Krauthammer seems fairly strongly pro- Tea Party here, and that always worries me.
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:04:57pm |
re: #290 negativ
About the only Rage Against the Machine (Except Sony) song I truly like is ‘Freedom’. I mainly like the Black Sabbath-ish riff.
I’m gonna go put Fight Club on. His name is robert paulson..
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:06:22pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:06:38pm |
re: #272 marjoriemoon
Pointing and laughing does wonders for a lady’s ego.
The guys? Not so much!
Giggling might have the same effect!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:11:04pm |
re: #292 Dark_Falcon
Interesting piece by Charles Krauthammer:
I like the classic movie references, though anyone smart would be deterred from crime by the amount of fire Frank Hamer and the Texas rangers poured into Bonnie and Clyde.
This article is worrisome, though. Krauthammer seems fairly strongly pro- Tea Party here, and that always worries me.
I think Krauthammer’s assumption that the ‘profile’ is clear is pretty silly. What’s the profile, and is there any reason on God’s earth it cannot change at a moment’s notice?
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:12:03pm |
re: #296 SanFranciscoZionist
I think Krauthammer’s assumption that the ‘profile’ is clear is pretty silly. What’s the profile, and is there any reason on God’s earth it cannot change at a moment’s notice?
To him, the profile is clear.
He just won’t say it.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:13:40pm |
re: #295 Floral Giraffe
Pointing and laughing does wonders for a lady’s ego.
The guys? Not so much!
Giggling might have the same effect!
It’s not exactly fathomable that there’s a guy in the world who can remember standing in the Wang Assignment line and telling the clerk, “uhm, yes. I’ll take the extra-small model, please.”
Oh, who am I kidding. There are people on Craigslist offering $200/hr for someone to fart in their hair while they jerk off in an astronaut suit as Willie Nelson’s “Blackjack County Chain” is played backwards in the background. Anything is possible.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:15:19pm |
I know… Next time I fly, I’ll try to get a TSA agent to get in the scanner with me and pose. Maybe a little embrace or something. We could make it into art.
/all these great ideas, an no money nor any cause to fly. :(
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:15:48pm |
re: #299 negativ
There are people on Craigslist offering $200/hr for someone to fart in their hair while they jerk off in an astronaut suit as Willie Nelson’s “Blackjack County Chain” is played backwards in the background.
link pls
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:16:00pm |
re: #299 negativ
How terribly…
Specific.
:/
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:16:46pm |
re: #297 Varek Raith
To him, the profile is clear.
He just won’t say it.
We can’t check religion at the airport.
So far, the attackers have all been male, but the phenomenon of female suicide bombers in various areas suggest that may not be the world’s safest thing to hang our hats on.
Race has been variable.
Age has largely been young, but once again, no reason it can’t vary.
And ALL OF THIS CAN CHANGE AT A MOMENT’S NOTICE. It’s only what’s been done in the past. Not what can be done in the future.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:18:22pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:21:02pm |
re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist
We can’t check religion at the airport.
So far, the attackers have all been male, but the phenomenon of female suicide bombers in various areas suggest that may not be the world’s safest thing to hang our hats on.
Race has been variable.
Age has largely been young, but once again, no reason it can’t vary.
And ALL OF THIS CAN CHANGE AT A MOMENT’S NOTICE. It’s only what’s been done in the past. Not what can be done in the future.
National origin: variable.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:23:12pm |
Who needs the TSA when we can simply have patriotic Americans bring the guns they already own on board for their own safety?
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:23:58pm |
All this talk of should we profile, shouldn’t we profile. I used to travel quite a bit, and a couple of the guys I traveled with quite a bit fit the, er, profile. We’d arrive to the airport together, I’d go straight through to the gate and the Man would “have a couple of questions” for them. An hour later, they’d meet me at the gate. You can argue from now until forever.. trust me - they profile. Amusingly enough, two of my supposedly non-profiled friends were converted christians.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:25:15pm |
re: #307 cliffster
All this talk of should we profile, shouldn’t we profile. I used to travel quite a bit, and a couple of the guys I traveled with quite a bit fit the, er, profile. We’d arrive to the airport together, I’d go straight through to the gate and the Man would “have a couple of questions” for them. An hour later, they’d meet me at the gate. You can argue from now until forever.. trust me - they profile. Amusingly enough, two of my supposedly non-profiled friends were converted christians.
They do, and it’s pretty evident.
Which makes the whining about how if we could only profile! even more annoying, frankly.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:25:22pm |
re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist
We can’t check religion at the airport.
So far, the attackers have all been male, but the phenomenon of female suicide bombers in various areas suggest that may not be the world’s safest thing to hang our hats on.
Race has been variable.
Age has largely been young, but once again, no reason it can’t vary.
And ALL OF THIS CAN CHANGE AT A MOMENT’S NOTICE. It’s only what’s been done in the past. Not what can be done in the future.
Agreed. The planned liquid explosives attack were to have been carried out by women traveling with children. I can’t possibly imagine what causes a woman to become so fanatical that she is willing to blow up her own baby to kill “infidels”, but at least one such woman was arrested. Our enemy’s evil truly does know no bounds.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:26:18pm |
re: #306 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Who needs the TSA when we can simply have patriotic Americans bring the guns they already own on board for their own safety?
This idea brought to you by Ron Paul and co. ;)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:26:45pm |
re: #305 SanFranciscoZionist
Visual cues, facial expressions/ticks, body language, subtle hints in responses to questions. This kind of profiling does work, and has been used successfully for centuries by those who know what to look for.
Whether or not TSA agents can successfully be trained to employ such techniques is another question.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:28:12pm |
re: #309 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. The planned liquid explosives attack were to have been carried out by women traveling with children. I can’t possibly imagine what causes a woman to become so fanatical that she is willing to blow up her own baby to kill “infidels”, but at least one such woman was arrested. Our enemy’s evil truly does know no bounds.
Jose Padilla. Richard Reid. Would these guys have fit Mr. Krauthammer’s profile? Young men, sure, but I don’t think he means we should be scrutinizing all men between, say, fifteen and thirty-five.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:28:58pm |
re: #312 Varek Raith
Outlaw flying.
Problem solved.
/
If God wanted us to fly, he would have given us wings.
/
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:29:09pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:29:20pm |
re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth
Visual cues, facial expressions/ticks, body language, subtle hints in responses to questions. This kind of profiling does work, and has been used successfully for centuries by those who know what to look for.
Whether or not TSA agents can successfully be trained to employ such techniques is another question.
Sure, that’s true, but that is NOT what people who talk about profiling mean, it’s sure as hell not what Palin means.
And, as I said above, the people who whine about TSA’s procedures would not appreciate El Al’s.
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:30:13pm |
re: #316 SanFranciscoZionist
Sure, that’s true, but that is NOT what people who talk about profiling mean, it’s sure as hell not what Palin means.
And, as I said above, the people who whine about TSA’s procedures would not appreciate El Al’s.
That is so true.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:31:08pm |
re: #316 SanFranciscoZionist
Sure, that’s true, but that is NOT what people who talk about profiling mean, it’s sure as hell not what Palin means.
And, as I said above, the people who whine about TSA’s procedures would not appreciate El Al’s.
Or is it? Seriously, all these people going on about profiling, do they mean that we should train TSA people to interview, look for signs of tension, microexpressions, et al, and pull out people who trigger their profile response?
I don’t think that’s what they mean. Perhaps I misjudge them.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:32:17pm |
re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist
We can’t check religion at the airport.
So far, the attackers have all been male, but the phenomenon of female suicide bombers in various areas suggest that may not be the world’s safest thing to hang our hats on.
Worst:
en.wikipedia.org
Read that whole enormous thing, and imagine how berserk we’d get if that happened in the US.
Ever notice how there has never been a society that collapsed into murderous chaos because its members became entirely too insistent on rationality and objectivity?
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Varek Raith Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:32:24pm |
re: #318 SanFranciscoZionist
Or is it? Seriously, all these people going on about profiling, do they mean that we should train TSA people to interview, look for signs of tension, microexpressions, et al, and pull out people who trigger their profile response?
I don’t think that’s what they mean. Perhaps I misjudge them.
When I hear a wingnut say “profile!”
They most certainly mean “LOOKITARABSTERRIST!”
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cliffster Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:32:27pm |
re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist
They do, and it’s pretty evident.
Which makes the whining about how if we could only profile! even more annoying, frankly.
Well, to me it’s more funny than annoying. People who are inclined to believe some pretty absurd conspiracy theories just taking at face value the “oh no, we don’t profile, nope, that would be naughty” bit.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:33:28pm |
re: #313 SanFranciscoZionist
Jose Padilla. Richard Reid. Would these guys have fit Mr. Krauthammer’s profile? Young men, sure, but I don’t think he means we should be scrutinizing all men between, say, fifteen and thirty-five.
That was what William F. Buckley proposed. He proposed a series of markers that could be used to exclude someone from needing special scrutiny, but set those markers so that males between 15 and 30 could not get the 5 out of 6 markers needed. The idea was that young men are the people that the TSA, like other law enforcement, should pay the most attention to. Because it is males between 15 and 40 who commit the great majority of crimes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:33:51pm |
re: #319 negativ
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
[Link: articles.cnn.com…]
Worst:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
Read that whole enormous thing, and imagine how berserk we’d get if that happened in the US.Ever notice how there has never been a society that collapsed into murderous chaos because its members became entirely too insistent on rationality and objectivity?
Bingo.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:34:38pm |
re: #316 SanFranciscoZionist
You want to really see US “profiling” in action? Travel with your colleague, who is Armenian on one way tickets, because your business got finished early.
They had the poor guy for over an hour. I got it for 20 minutes.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:35:03pm |
re: #321 cliffster
Well, to me it’s more funny than annoying. People who are inclined to believe some pretty absurd conspiracy theories just taking at face value the “oh no, we don’t profile, nope, that would be naughty” bit.
It’s all about feeding their fantasy: They want to feel that they see things that others cannot see.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:35:05pm |
re: #316 SanFranciscoZionist
I’m not really sure what anyone means when using the word “profiling”, and I’m certain I have no idea wtf Palin is talking about most of the time.
Still, it seems that when the term “profiling” is used, some folk immediately knee jerk to “racial profiling”.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:38:33pm |
re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth
I’m not really sure what anyone means when using the word “profiling”, and I’m certain I have no idea wtf Palin is talking about most of the time.
Still, it seems that when the term “profiling” is used, some folk immediately knee jerk to “racial profiling”.
Given the language that surrounds it, I am pretty sure that is exactly what people often mean when they bring it up.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:41:55pm |
re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist
Given the language that surrounds it, I am pretty sure that is exactly what people often mean when they bring it up.
And if they don’t, they need to explain exactly what they mean, and what they think it would mean for airport security.
If they start blathering about how people who OBVIOUSLY aren’t threats have to take off their shoes, I stop listening. There is no way out of doublechecking everyone’s ID, running them through some sort of weapons check, and looking at their bags. That is the bare minimum.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:45:56pm |
re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist
Given the language that surrounds it, I am pretty sure that is exactly what people often mean when they bring it up.
True enough with some.
And if they don’t, they need to explain exactly what they mean, and what they think it would mean for airport security.
That sort of thing is above Palin’s pay brain grade. But seriously, I think it would help a great deal if folks did explain what they meant. I think it would also help if folks didn’t immediately jump to “racial profiling” whenever the term “profiling” is mentioned.
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palomino Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:46:27pm |
re: #45 albusteve
if she’s elected, promise you won’t kill yourself?
Kill ourselves? If Palin gets elected, the year and a half she serves before resigning will be the most entertaining period in American political history. I want a front row seat for that.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:48:54pm |
re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth
Visual cues, facial expressions/ticks, body language, subtle hints in responses to questions. This kind of profiling does work, and has been used successfully for centuries by those who know what to look for.
Whether or not TSA agents can successfully be trained to employ such techniques is another question.
Hiring intelligent people with an interest and aptitude for human psychology (at the minimum), who are empathetic enough to pick up on a person’s mood requires lots and lots of money and time. On the other hand, you can pay someone $12 / hr to follow the script.
Do not fool yourself into thinking that we, as a nation, have any interest in training TSA agents to do anything other than follow the script. It’s just a matter of time before we get our ass handed to us again (to the tune of who knows how many dead), and it will happen in a way that completely bypasses all the backscatter x-rays and genital groping in the world.
To be quite honest, I’m really having a hard time understanding why LGF denizens are so accepting of current TSA procedures. To me, it’s completely ineffective theater, nothing more. I’m comfortable asserting that there’s not a chance in hell that a backscatter X-ray will ever thwart a terrorist plot in progress.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:49:25pm |
re: #325 Dark_Falcon
It’s all about feeding their fantasy: They want to feel that they see things that others cannot see.
Like voter fraud.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:53:35pm |
re: #319 negativ
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
[Link: articles.cnn.com…]
Worst:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
Read that whole enormous thing, and imagine how berserk we’d get if that happened in the US.Ever notice how there has never been a society that collapsed into murderous chaos because its members became entirely too insistent on rationality and objectivity?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:53:56pm |
re: #329 Slumbering Behemoth
True enough with some.
That sort of thing is above Palin’s
paybrain grade. But seriously, I think it would help a great deal if folks did explain what they meant. I think it would also help if folks didn’t immediately jump to “racial profiling” whenever the term “profiling” is mentioned.
That may well be true, and I will try to remember to do so…but honestly, the language that goes with it raises my hackles a lot of the time, especially when, as in Palin’s case, it’s paired with the implication that we could do this great thing if only it weren’t for political correctness…which, I have found, is usually thin code for ‘damn, I wish I could do this racist thing’.
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Political Atheist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:54:43pm |
Sad to read this…
May he rest in peace and his family prevail.
Washington (CNN) — Search-and-rescue teams have found “conclusive evidence” that the pilot of an F-22 aircraft that crashed Tuesday night while on a routine training mission in Alaska did not survive, the military said Friday.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:58:29pm |
re: #331 Rightwingconspirator
Heh! We drove to LA from Saint Louis after 9/11.
Rented a car & just went home.
Business travel is so lovely.
///not enough sarc tags for that!
Hope you & DL are well?
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Nov 19, 2010 9:58:59pm |
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Political Atheist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:00:17pm |
re: #332 negativ
I’m comfortable asserting that there’s not a chance in hell that a backscatter X-ray will ever thwart a terrorist plot in progress.
Your assertion ignores the utility of reducing and then complicating the enemies remaining opportunities. Nor any credit for the possibility of plots abandoned. Now the next focus-Cargo.
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Political Atheist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:01:39pm |
re: #337 Floral Giraffe
We are fine. Looking to enjoy a Saturday afternoon in with the rain. Hot Rums, comfort food. All in moderation of course. *wink*
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:02:29pm |
re: #333 goddamnedfrank
Like voter fraud.
Voter fraud does happen. Precautions against it, provided they are not onerous, are reasonable. It’s not just a conspiracy theory. But since I seem to live in your head, I don’t expect you to back off.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:04:32pm |
re: #332 negativ
I’m not fooling myself into thinking anything. And just for the record, I do not believe you were implying that I was.
I was just positing that the practice of profiling can encompass many more metrics than simply pointing and shouting “Look at that dirty [insert whatever racial epithet fits the situation].”
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:04:55pm |
re: #334 goddamnedfrank
As you know, Barack Obama is teaming up with Lex Luthor, and they plan to subject themselves to socialist science experiments being conducted with the LCH at CERN, so that they can shoot kryptonite beams out of their eyeballs and thereby defeat Superman and Glen Beck.
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palomino Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:06:29pm |
re: #341 Dark_Falcon
Voter fraud does happen. Precautions against it, provided they are not onerous, are reasonable. It’s not just a conspiracy theory. But since I seem to live in your head, I don’t expect you to back off.
Voter fraud of the type asserted by Beck and the tea partiers—massive numbers of illegals voting, ACORN creating names so blacks could vote multiple times—most certainly does not exist.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:06:32pm |
re: #325 Dark_Falcon
Sent you a mail.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:06:45pm |
re: #343 negativ
As you know, Barack Obama is teaming up with Lex Luthor, and they plan to subject themselves to socialist science experiments being conducted with the LCH at CERN, so that they can shoot kryptonite beams out of their eyeballs and thereby defeat Superman and Glen Beck.
Wouldn’t a kryptonite bullet be easier?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:07:36pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:08:09pm |
re: #335 SanFranciscoZionist
I wasn’t trying to imply that you were in the knee jerk camp on this issue. I hope you don’t believe I think that of you. Just sayin’.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:08:26pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:09:27pm |
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:09:28pm |
re: #347 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wouldn’t a kryptonite bullet be easier?
No, because Superman is faster than a speeding bullet.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:09:31pm |
re: #349 Slumbering Behemoth
I wasn’t trying to imply that you were in the knee jerk camp on this issue. I hope you don’t believe I think that of you. Just sayin’.
No, no, also just sayin’. No offense taken at all.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:13:28pm |
re: #343 negativ
As you know, Barack Obama is teaming up with Lex Luthor, and they plan to subject themselves to socialist science experiments being conducted with the LCH at CERN, so that they can shoot kryptonite beams out of their eyeballs and thereby defeat Superman and Glen Beck.
Impossible. Lex Luthor is a capitalist, and we all know that Obama is a socialist. Luthor hates Obama because Obama is planning to raise his taxes. So Lex Luthor is bankrolling Sarah Palin, figuring that she’s dumb enough to control.
/Eat your heart out, Alex Jones.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:15:10pm |
re: #341 Dark_Falcon
Voter fraud does happen. Precautions against it, provided they are not onerous, are reasonable. It’s not just a conspiracy theory. But since I seem to live in your head, I don’t expect you to back off.
Your belief that some kind of “machine” actually swings elections in favor of democratic candidates like Al Franken is absolutely a conspiracy theory. You cling to it in spite of the facts and outside all reason.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:15:56pm |
re: #345 palomino
Voter fraud of the type asserted by Beck and the tea partiers—massive numbers of illegals voting, ACORN creating names so blacks could vote multiple times—most certainly does not exist.
True, but some kinds of fraud do occur. I don’t buy into Beck’s loony theories, but I live in Cook County and it has had some very serious election problems at times. Thus voter fraud is still a legit issue here.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:16:10pm |
re: #353 SanFranciscoZionist
SWEEET! Butthurt is a nonpartisan affliction, and sometimes there are those quick to exhibit it here regardless of their political views. Again, not even implying you’re in the easily butthurt camp. I’m probably more easily butthurt than you.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:18:33pm |
re: #357 Slumbering Behemoth
SWEEET! Butthurt is a nonpartisan affliction, and sometimes there are those quick to exhibit it here regardless of their political views. Again, not even implying you’re in the easily butthurt camp. I’m probably more easily butthurt than you.
Look, I’m Irish, I’ll fight with anyone on the Internet about anything…but I get over it.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:20:04pm |
re: #354 Dark_Falcon
Impossible. Lex Luthor is a capitalist, and we all know that Obama is a socialist. Luthor hates Obama because Obama is planning to raise his taxes. So Lex Luthor is bankrolling Sarah Palin, figuring that she’s dumb enough to control.
/Eat your heart out, Alex Jones.
You’ve got it all wrong. The plot is more sinister than you think. Barack Obama’s role is to completely freak out the plutocracy, causing an ENORMOUS, spasmodic zeitgeist shift towards the anarcho-capitalist musings of the Tea Party groups, which were of course spearheaded by Lex Luthor’s more trusted henchmen (or Persons of Hench). And you already know who they are…
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palomino Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:22:04pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
True, but some kinds of fraud do occur. I don’t buy into Beck’s loony theories, but I live in Cook County and it has had some very serious election problems at times. Thus voter fraud is still a legit issue here.
Sure, in Cook County and many other places less notorious for it.
But that’s not the context in which the contemporary American right uses the term “voter fraud.” Instead it’s used to whip up populist frenzy that some dark forces have illegitimately taken away “their” country.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:22:48pm |
re: #352 negativ
No, because Superman is faster than a speeding bullet.
So you set him up.
Lead jacketed, kryptonite core sabot rounds. Get 5 henchmen, arm 2 with the sabot rounds and conduct a crime, engaging civilians. Superman drops down to be a shield, over confident when the first rounds bounce off him as usual, then give the order for your 2 special henchmen unload on his ass.
Problem solved.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:25:23pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:26:10pm |
re: #358 SanFranciscoZionist
Pineapple belongs on pizza. Cats suck and dogs rule. Your taste in music shows how stupid and ignorant you are, while mine shows how intelligent and sophisticated I am. My regional college sports team makes your regional college sports team look like crippled bitches.
/Now what? NOW WHAT?!?!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:28:59pm |
re: #360 palomino
Sure, in Cook County and many other places less notorious for it.
But that’s not the context in which the contemporary American right uses the term “voter fraud.” Instead it’s used to whip up populist frenzy that some dark forces have illegitimately taken away “their” country.
True, but I live in Cook County and my concern is with the real fraud issues, not with Beck’s fever dreams.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:30:04pm |
re: #361 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’d like to work for your organization. Should I submit my resume to the Hollow Volcano Complex, or the sub-surface Arctic Glacier Complex?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:31:15pm |
re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth
Pineapple belongs on pizza. Cats suck and dogs rule. Your taste in music shows how stupid and ignorant you are, while mine shows how intelligent and sophisticated I am. My regional college sports team makes your regional college sports team look like crippled bitches.
/Now what? NOW WHAT?!?!
Uh, let’s go with the music one, since the rest I either agree with you on, or have no idea (sports team?).
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:32:20pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
True, but some kinds of fraud do occur. I don’t buy into Beck’s loony theories, but I live in Cook County and it has had some very serious election problems at times. Thus voter fraud is still a legit issue here.
Argument by authority of geographic proximity, lacking any references or citation, an assertion unsupported by actual evidence.
In fact, it’s voter intimidation that is a documented recent problem in Cook County:
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:32:24pm |
re: #361 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So you set him up.
Lead jacketed, kryptonite core sabot rounds. Get 5 henchmen, arm 2 with the sabot rounds and conduct a crime, engaging civilians. Superman drops down to be a shield, over confident when the first rounds bounce off him as usual, then give the order for your 2 special henchmen unload on his ass.
Problem solved.
Obviously, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Encasing kryptonite in a lead jacket has the effect of shielding Superman from kryptonite radiation.
It should be noted here that I have never cared for Superman, and have always figured that Bruce Wayne could cook up some chemistry that would have Superman talking to his cape for a year or two.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:32:28pm |
re: #355 goddamnedfrank
Your belief that some kind of “machine” actually swings elections in favor of democratic candidates like Al Franken is absolutely a conspiracy theory. You cling to it in spite of the facts and outside all reason.
You’re conflating my thoughts. There are Democratic political machines, though Minnesota does not have one, as far as I know. Machine politics is local, not national. So while there is no national wide DNC machine, Chicago definatly has a Democratic political machine.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:32:49pm |
re: #365 Slumbering Behemoth
I’d like to work for your organization. Should I submit my resume to the Hollow Volcano Complex, or the sub-surface Arctic Glacier Complex?
Actually, we just lease out office space. Works out best in the long run, plus, we switch room numbers around so when the heroes bust in, they take out the wrong office while we slip away.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:34:27pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:35:59pm |
re: #367 goddamnedfrank
Argument by authority of geographic proximity, lacking any references or citation, an assertion unsupported by actual evidence.
In fact, it’s voter intimidation that is a documented recent problem in Cook County:
The citation link on the wiki page did not work, leaving me unable to see who was alleged to have done the intimidating.
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Kragar Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:36:41pm |
re: #368 negativ
Obviously, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Encasing kryptonite in a lead jacket has the effect of shielding Superman from kryptonite radiation.
It should be noted here that I have never cared for Superman, and have always figured that Bruce Wayne could cook up some chemistry that would have Superman talking to his cape for a year or two.
I was counting on the lead shielding the radiation. He’ll have no idea what hit him until the round hit him, the lead jacketing gets stopped away by his powers and the kryptonite inner core shears thru the jacketing and continues thru his vital organs.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:39:56pm |
re: #368 negativ
Obviously, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Encasing kryptonite in a lead jacket has the effect of shielding Superman from kryptonite radiation.
You’re wrong, and here is why. As the outer lead jacket impacts the immovable flesh of The Man of Steel and is spread and deflected away, the inner kryptonite slug will still retain it’s velocity, piercing his flesh and shredding his internal organs. The plan is flawless.
/BWAHAHAHA!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:41:44pm |
And on that note, I’m going to bed.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:43:51pm |
re: #369 Dark_Falcon
You’re conflating my thoughts.
I’m really not.
There are Democratic political machines, though Minnesota does not have one, as far as I know. Machine politics is local, not national. So while there is no national wide DNC machine, Chicago definatly has a Democratic political machine.
Can you even define what a machine means? Because it seems like a completely nebulous term you use to dehumanize your opposition and avoid dealing honestly with losses.
I’m curious too why you think living in Cook County makes you an expert on a subject that you can’t prove with actual evidence? I mean you paid taxes for years while completely misunderstanding how income tax brackets function, so something beyond mere unsupported assertion that Cook County is the Mecca of Democratic voter fraud would be nice.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:45:17pm |
re: #373 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
EMTA!
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:46:30pm |
re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth
Pineapple belongs on pizza.
I hereby declare a fatwah against you. True Pizza exists only on the thinnest of thin crust, and must not include any fruit other than tomato bits.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:50:35pm |
re: #378 negativ
I hereby declare a fatwah against you. True Pizza exists only on the thinnest of thin crust, and must not include any fruit other than tomato bits.
No olives then? :(
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:52:13pm |
re: #376 goddamnedfrank
Political Machine.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:55:33pm |
re: #379 Slumbering Behemoth
Are olives considered a fruit? Huh.
In any case, the green ones with pimento chunks stuffed into them are too pickle-ish. The forlorn black ones are rich and FOR FUCK’S SAKE QUIT TRYING TO FORCE ME TO FIND DECENT PIZZA AT 1:00 AM.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:58:14pm |
re: #380 Dark_Falcon
Chicago’s Democratic political machine is so notorious that ten years ago it was even the subject of a board game:
The Chicago Way
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 11:04:09pm |
re: #382 Dark_Falcon
You have a couple of mails.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Nov 19, 2010 11:05:04pm |
re: #381 negativ
Technically, tomato is a fruit.
Just to let you know…
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Nov 19, 2010 11:14:58pm |
re: #381 negativ
Yes, olives are considered fruit. Peperoni is considered cured meat. So is ham, bacon, salami, prosciutto, etc. Onions, bell peppers, garlic, etc., are considered vegetables. Mushrooms are considered fungus. Mozzarella is considered cheese. And.. Pizza!
pizza pizza pizza pizza
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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Nov 19, 2010 11:20:30pm |
re: #385 Slumbering Behemoth
Yes, olives are considered fruit. Peperoni is considered cured meat. So is ham, bacon, salami, prosciutto, etc. Onions, bell peppers, garlic, etc., are considered vegetables. Mushrooms are considered fungus. Mozzarella is considered cheese. And.. Pizza!
pizza pizza pizza pizza
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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Nov 19, 2010 11:23:07pm |
re: #332 negativ
One would have to really have faith that Palin’s snap decision-making powers in times of an emergency will be more thoughtful and considered than her twittering…
Yes, we need to do profiling: terrorist profiling. But that sort of profiling requires, as you mentioned, trained and motivated employees. And means that those costs will be passed on to travellers.
Since we want to have it both secure and cheap, we wind up with racial profiling. Which in the end will turn out to be neither.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Nov 20, 2010 12:17:09am |
re: #386 eclectic infidel
You call that pizza? This! Is! Pizza!
/gag
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Nov 20, 2010 12:25:17am |
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freetoken Sat, Nov 20, 2010 12:37:55am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Nov 20, 2010 12:55:37am |
I made on minor edit to a page I previously posted here.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Nov 20, 2010 1:16:43am |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 1:44:35am |
re: #335 SanFranciscoZionist
That may well be true, and I will try to remember to do so…but honestly, the language that goes with it raises my hackles a lot of the time, especially when, as in Palin’s case, it’s paired with the implication that we could do this great thing if only it weren’t for political correctness…which, I have found, is usually thin code for ‘damn, I wish I could do this racist thing’.
Exactly. There is such a thing as behavioral profiling or just profiling, but it is pretty obvious, that the Right wants racial profiling. Yknow, because the main goal here is that white, christian Americans do not get bothered…
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:04:17am |
re: #395 000G
. Yknow, because the main goal here is that white, christian Americans do not get bothered…
That’s because white, Christian Americans are not terrorists
/
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:30:27am |
All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
- Winston Churchill
Good Morning to Charles Overly Capitalized Personal Reptile Army!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:41:14am |
re: #399 deranged cat
Well, they hate you too!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:53:23am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:58:34am |
re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Innaminnit…
Thats where you have to be?
Sounds like a village in Alaska!
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:00:39am |
re: #401 sattv4u2
Happy birthday yesterday, Satt!
(had a crap day yesterday and didn’t post a bday wish until you were already gone…)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:02:48am |
re: #404 Taqyia2Me
Happy birthday yesterday, Satt!
(had a crap day yesterday and didn’t post a bday wish until you were already gone…)
Thank you
Just another day (year) closer to retirement!
Hope today is better for you!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:07:30am |
Okay ,, so they’re playing a major college football game today at Chicago’s Wrigley Field (Northwestern and Illinois )
Sounds great, huh !?!?
Cept for one thing ,,,,
No matter who has the ball, there’s only one end zone and everyone has to switch around when it’s their turn.
boston.com
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:09:18am |
re: #406 sattv4u2
Won’t players trip over the bases and stuff?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:15:31am |
re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Won’t players trip over the bases and stuff?
I wonder what happens if the defense gets an interception or a fumble and starts returning it (towards the end of the field with no end zone). Does everyone stop where they are, reverse positions, then on the whistle resume!?!?!?
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:15:55am |
Is the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ repeal DOA?
politico.com
The repeal of “don’t ask” has been attached to the defense authorization bill, and Senate Republicans have already blocked the bill once before over this issue.And while advocates scrape for 60 votes to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell,” there is no clear path to passage if the repeal remains embedded in the larger defense bill.
They should have done this 2 months ago. Put it up by itself, get the 60 votes, and move the hell on.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:16:22am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:17:25am |
re: #411 RogueOne
They should have done this 2 months ago. Put it up by itself, get the 60 votes, and move the hell on.
What ,, and miss a chance to blame the republicans for tying it up now that they have one house!?!?
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:21:17am |
re: #414 sattv4u2
They should have done this 2 months ago. Put it up by itself, get the 60 votes, and move the hell on.
What ,, and miss a chance to blame the republicans for tying it up now that they have one house!?!?
Kind of like how the repubs are using the START treaty as a bargaining chip? BTW, can I go on record as saying the importance of the treaty is incredibly overblown?
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:21:23am |
re: #405 sattv4u2
Thank you
Just another day (year) closer to retirement!Hope today is better for you!
Amen!
Doin’ charity work today, unlike gov’t work yesterday, so it’s bound to be better!!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:24:19am |
re: #415 RogueOne
Kind of like how the repubs are using the START treaty as a bargaining chip? BTW, can I go on record as saying the importance of the treaty is incredibly overblown?
Exactly
A pox on both their houses
And yes, not only can you “go on record” but you have company!
:)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:27:27am |
re: #416 Taqyia2Me
Amen!
Doin’ charity work today, unlike gov’t work yesterday, so it’s bound to be better!!
Upding
Nothing does the heart better than that
Son and his teen church group are spending the night at a homeless shelter Wednesday night prepping Thanksgiving dinner for the mission (the shelter will be feeding something in the order of 400 people Thursday)
Son will be well acquainted with the working end of a potato peeler!
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:31:54am |
My brother is back in the hospital this morning. There’s something seriously wrong. I’m afraid he’s gone mental. He’s starting to act like Randy Quaid which is completely 180 degrees from his normal. I’m concerned he has a brain tumor, either that or he’s losing his mind. Can people who were previously incredibly mentally tough (he’s been in combat and survived 2 chopper crashes) just lose it that late in life? He just turned 40 which I think is too old for schizophrenia or any of the regular mental diseases.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:34:54am |
re: #419 RogueOne
Oh man, I hope they can get an accurate diagnosis ASAP…
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:35:06am |
re: #419 RogueOne
Can people who were previously incredibly mentally tough (he’s been in combat and survived 2 chopper crashes) just lose it that late in life?
Short answer, yes
Could be a nunber of reasons
Has he had any head trauma?
Any med changes/ additions (could result in a chemical inbalance)
Prayers to him nonetheless (and to you who has to watch helplessly)
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:38:39am |
re: #420 Taqyia2Me
re: #421 sattv4u2
No head trauma that I know of, he did take a major fall about 6 years ago. Broke a bunch of ribs, front and back, almost every bone in his arm and hand. He was run over by a car a month before he graduated from HS. Survived 2 helicopter crashes. He’s been stabbed, shot at, and almost had a french mirage mistakenly fire on him during the first gulf war. He’s had his body beaten up pretty badly but he’s always been very mentally tough. “rub some dirt on it and drive on” kind of guy.
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:41:41am |
re: #421 sattv4u2
The only meds are for his heart, platelet issues.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:42:54am |
re: #422 RogueOne
Could be cumulative and has finally caught up to him
Again, prayers to you, him and both families
See HOOSIER and add him to the prayer list, if you are so inclined. I know it’s given me comfort during my mothers problems
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:46:19am |
re: #424 sattv4u2
I believe in the power of positive thought but I’m an avowed atheist and so is my brother. I found out yesterday that he’s written a 40 page diatribe proving the existence of god and spent the last couple of days passing it out at churches. I know it’s not funny but I can’t help but laugh. That right there is some crazy shit.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:46:27am |
re: #422 RogueOne
Jeez-o-Pete, the Rogue family’s got some tough hombres!!!
My thoughts and prayers go out to your brother, you and your family.
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:50:47am |
re: #426 Taqyia2Me
Jeez-o-Pete, the Rogue family’s got some tough hombres!!!
My thoughts and prayers go out to your brother, you and your family.
We were finishing up a building, putting the metal deck down on the bar joists, and I saw him walk off the edge of a piece that hadn’t been welded down yet. They both fell about 20’ straight down, luckily he hit a ladder on the way down and it broke his fall. One of the other trade guys came running over to help and kept asking “Do you know what day it is?”. My brothers response was “potato”. The other guy didn’t get it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:53:21am |
re: #419 RogueOne
Randy Quaid from Independence Day? Or Randy Quaid from the Vacation Movies? Or Randy Quaid from King Pin?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:55:26am |
re: #426 Taqyia2Me
Jeez-o-Pete, the Rogue family’s got some tough hombres!!!
My thoughts and prayers go out to your brother, you and your family.
Thats nothing
On the same day my wife stubbed her toe I had a paper cut and my son had a cinder in his eye!!
/
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:55:53am |
re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Randy Quaid from Independence Day? Or Randy Quaid from the Vacation Movies? Or Randy Quaid from King Pin?
Don’t you ever read a book!?!?
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:56:26am |
re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Randy Quaid from Independence Day? Or Randy Quaid from the Vacation Movies? Or Randy Quaid from King Pin?
definately Independence Day. I guess it could be aliens, I can’t prove it isn’t.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:58:41am |
Palin Derangement Syndrom?
WHAT Palin Derangement Syndrom
After a guy shoots his own TV because Bristol advanced on Dancing With Stars, , now come this
accessatlanta.com
White powder sent to ‘Dancing With the Stars’
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:59:04am |
re: #430 sattv4u2
Only the books based on movies.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:59:26am |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Only the books based on movies.
if you didn’t say that, I was going too!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:01:13am |
re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
By the way, Randy Quaid was in (IMO) the best movie based on Golf. “Dead Solid Perfect”.
Caddyshack was not really about golf.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:01:36am |
dammit ,,I’m hungry but nothing I have here (at work) appeals to me right now!
damn damn damn!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:03:35am |
re: #437 RogueOne
I think the girl in the glasses is SMOKIN’ HOT!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:06:04am |
re: #437 RogueOne
I fear this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. There will be incidents at check points (sadly)
I heard that theres an online “protest” going viral asking people to refuse both the pat down and the scans on Wednesday of this week
Not good,, not good at all (imho)
It will choke waiting lines on THE busiest travel (air) day of the year
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:09:12am |
re: #438 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think the girl in the glasses is SMOKIN’ HOT!
EVERY female in the video (except for the older lady 40 seconds in) had glasses!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:10:01am |
re: #440 sattv4u2
The one in the “Barbarella” tube.
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:11:22am |
re: #439 sattv4u2
I fear this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. There will be incidents at check points (sadly)
I heard that theres an online “protest” going viral asking people to refuse both the pat down and the scans on Wednesday of this week
Not good,, not good at all (imho)
It will choke waiting lines on THE busiest travel (air) day of the year
Yeah, flying next week is going to be a nightmare. I’m generally in favor of non-violent civil disobedience. Maybe the TSA should have found out if fliers if they would put up with these kinds of intrusive searches before it got to this?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:12:45am |
re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The one in the “Barbarella” tube.
Oh! Speaking of which! Y’all see Jane Fonda (72) in a catsuit!?!?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:13:49am |
re: #443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh! Speaking of which! Y’all see Jane Fonda (72) in a catsuit!?!?
Still Crazy After All These Years!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:18:30am |
Older women posing to show they can still be sexy.
Put enough spackle on me and I’d look hot.
I’m sure that 60+ women really appreciate this.
Actually, they probably do not.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:19:09am |
Innaminnit is here. See y’all laters.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:20:01am |
re: #445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Older women posing to show they can still be sexy.
Put enough spackle on me and I’d look hot.
I’m sure that 60+ women really appreciate this.
Actually, they probably do not.
Hopw much spackle is needed for a (lets say) Helen Thomas !?!?!
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:20:24am |
re: #443 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh! Speaking of which! Y’all see Jane Fonda (72) in a catsuit!?!?
Between the ages of about 9 and about 13, I saw “Barbarella” probably 10 times, but I couldn’t give you a synopsis of the plot if my life depended on it.
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kirkspencer Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:22:09am |
And when you thought it was as fun as it could get, they up the ante.
A Republican lawmaker [ed - John Mica, R-FL7], who is faulting big government spending, is suggesting that airports dump the Transportation Security Administration altogether, and opt instead to privatize security.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:22:14am |
re: #448 negativ
Between the ages of about 9 and about 13, I saw “Barbarella” probably 10 times, but I couldn’t give you a synopsis of the plot if my life depended on it.
It had a plot!?!?
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:25:07am |
This is an update to an older story:
Federal officer given probation before judgment in “Bear Bear” dog shooting
weblogs.baltimoresun.com
Federal police officer Keith Elgin Shepherd was given probation before judgment today for shooting a Siberian husky he claimed was attacking his pet and threatening him and his wife at a community dog in Severn.Anne Arundel County District Court Judge Thomas J. Pryal said he would convict Shepherd, 32, on charges of misdemeanor animal cruelty and discharging his personal handgun within 100 yards of homes in the Quail Run neighborhood, but offered Shepherd probation before judgment, which means Shepherd will have the chance to have his record expunged if he meets the terms of his probation.
Pryal fined Shepherd $500 for the animal cruelty charge, and gave him a suspended fine of $1,000 on the handgun charge.
Now imagine what would happen to one of us if we got into an argument at a dog park and shot someones dog.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:25:28am |
re: #447 sattv4u2
Well… she’s about a hundred. I’d say she gets a pass.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:26:13am |
re: #449 kirkspencer
And when you thought it was as fun as it could get, they up the ante.
At least a dozen airports in the country, in San Francisco, Jackson Hole, Wyo., and Rochester N.Y., already use private screeners.
I would like to see/hear what passengers going through those airports have to say about the process as opposed to ones going through TSA screened airports
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:29:41am |
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:30:16am |
re: #454 sattv4u2
At least a dozen airports in the country, in San Francisco, Jackson Hole, Wyo., and Rochester N.Y., already use private screeners.
I would like to see/hear what passengers going through those airports have to say about the process as opposed to ones going through TSA screened airports
They would probably say that being a government employee does not immediately translate to competence…
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:30:50am |
re: #456 rwdflynavy
They would probably say that being a government employee does not immediately translate to competence…
Sacrilege!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:32:18am |
re: #456 rwdflynavy
They would probably say that being a government employee does not immediately translate to competence…
Well,, I mention it because the tone of Kirks #449 was dimsissive (imho) of the idea of private companies doing the screening, yet in the article linked it clearly states there are several airports that already have that
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kirkspencer Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:32:38am |
re: #454 sattv4u2
At least a dozen airports in the country, in San Francisco, Jackson Hole, Wyo., and Rochester N.Y., already use private screeners.
I would like to see/hear what passengers going through those airports have to say about the process as opposed to ones going through TSA screened airports
For what it’s worth I suspect they’re doing a decent job, but within the TSA guidelines (and with their problems). No, what concerns me is the question of what restraints and controls exist if it’s all turned over to private corporations.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:33:20am |
re: #459 kirkspencer
For what it’s worth I suspect they’re doing a decent job, but within the TSA guidelines (and with their problems). No, what concerns me is the question of what restraints and controls exist if it’s all turned over to private corporations.
You answered your own question
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:34:20am |
re: #452 RogueOne
This is an update to an older story:
Federal officer given probation before judgment in “Bear Bear” dog shooting
[Link: weblogs.baltimoresun.com…]Now imagine what would happen to one of us if we got into an argument at a dog park and shot someones dog.
Don’t get me started on the police.
Unless you’re talking about Sting and Andy Summers, et al.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:39:45am |
re: #462 iceweasel
I think you’re a bit too interested in Jimmah.
HEY ,,, LTNS ,,, you okay?
Last I knew you had sliced off half your hand! Healed???
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:40:35am |
Woman who destroyed controversial artwork gets plea deal
9news.com
LOVELAND - Prosecutors have reached a plea deal in the case of a woman accused of destroying controversial artwork that some say depicted Jesus Christ in a sex act with another man.
AdvertisementProsecutors say 56-year-old Kathleen Folden, a truck driver from Kalispell, Mont., pleaded guilty to a class one misdemeanor count of criminal mischief.
Her attorney, Derek Samuelson, said the plea deal was just and appropriate.
Authorities say Folden will serve 18 months of unsupervised probation after she used an 18-inch crowbar to smash a Plexiglas case inside the Loveland Museum/Gallery on Oct. 6 and then destroyed a piece of artwork called “The Misadventures of Romantic Cannibals.”
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:43:33am |
re: #464 RogueOne
Woman who destroyed controversial artwork gets plea deal
[Link: www.9news.com…]
She should have been made to pay
A) the cost of replacing the plexi case
and
B) the highest estimated value of the painting
along with
C) the “probation” she did get, although I would have made it supervised (check in with a proby officer once a month)
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kirkspencer Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:43:50am |
re: #456 rwdflynavy
They would probably say that being a government employee does not immediately translate to competence…
OK, while I was responding I saw the other responses. I’ll expand my other comment.
I worked in the prison industry for a while as a state employee. I got to see some of the pleasure of private prisons. I use that as a basis.re: #460 sattv4u2
You answered your own question
No, I answered yours. The proposal is to turn it over to the private companies.
OK, let’s look at another major industry that’s got some similarities: Private Prisons. Nominally they’re under the guide of the respective state Dept of Corrections. They’re pushed as being better than public. However, when compared to equivalent state prisons - in some cases in the same states - they turn out to not be not so good.
Notionally they save money. However, they have a higher rate of escape than equivalent security prisons. There is a greater incidence of assaults on staff and on fellow inmates at private prisons. When you realize that in mixed states (states with both private and public prisons) the private prisons often have the option of refusing or returning prisons (shades of private school selectiveness) this is even more damning.
My guess about the ones right now is that they are heavily supervised by the TSA and so aren’t that much different. If the entirety except for a top level executive control is turned over to private industry I do not expect it to be a good thing.
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:44:37am |
re: #465 sattv4u2
She should have been made to pay
A) the cost of replacing the plexi case
and
B) the highest estimated value of the painting
along with
C) the “probation” she did get, although I would have made it supervised (check in with a proby officer once a month)
I believe restitution is still on the table.
FTA:
Authorities say restitution for the destroyed artwork will be determined at a hearing on Jan. 28
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:45:08am |
re: #467 RogueOne
I believe restitution is still on the table.
FTA:
good ,, thanks ,,, didn’t read the article, only your “snip”
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kirkspencer Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:45:14am |
re: #466 kirkspencer
Prior post started with one response then saw a specific. Mea culpa, and please just reference the following:
re: #460 sattv4u2
You answered your own question
No, I answered yours. The proposal is to turn it over to the private companies.
OK, let’s look at another major industry that’s got some similarities: Private Prisons. Nominally they’re under the guide of the respective state Dept of Corrections. They’re pushed as being better than public. However, when compared to equivalent state prisons - in some cases in the same states - they turn out to not be not so good.
Notionally they save money. However, they have a higher rate of escape than equivalent security prisons. There is a greater incidence of assaults on staff and on fellow inmates at private prisons. When you realize that in mixed states (states with both private and public prisons) the private prisons often have the option of refusing or returning prisons (shades of private school selectiveness) this is even more damning.
My guess about the ones right now is that they are heavily supervised by the TSA and so aren’t that much different. If the entirety except for a top level executive control is turned over to private industry I do not expect it to be a good thing.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:55:47am |
And on that note, the long quiet ride home awaits
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:57:43am |
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darthstar Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:58:20am |
Sarah Palin embracing her inner bigot? Who would have thought that possible? You could make a coffee table book of her tweefs and facebook fails if you collected them all.
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Renaissance_Man Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:59:18am |
re: #466 kirkspencer
My guess about the ones right now is that they are heavily supervised by the TSA and so aren’t that much different. If the entirety except for a top level executive control is turned over to private industry I do not expect it to be a good thing.
In the end, privatisation of goods or services that only have the government as a customer, such as prisons or national security, is a ridiculous idea that results in greater expense, greater waste, lower quality, or all three. Natural monopolies are incompatible with the free market.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:02:44am |
Photo courtesy of The Denver Post
Image: 20101117__20101118_A01_CD18PATDOWN~p3.JPG
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RogueOne Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:03:20am |
I’m off to go watch my nephew wrestle. He’s wrestling varsity (152lbs) as a sophomore. The school they’re going up against today has a #1 ranked wrestler. Should be fun to watch. Everyone enjoy their weekend.
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darthstar Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:05:17am |
re: #8 Charles
“Tweef”: n. a hastily posted comment on Twitter that ends up being incredibly embarrassing. See: elevator fart.
When I fart on an elevator, I immediately press all the buttons for unselected floors and get off at the next one.
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darthstar Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:07:00am |
re: #476 negativ
Photo courtesy of The Denver Post
Image: 20101117__20101118_A01_CD18PATDOWN~p3.JPG
He’s not fisting the passenger. He’s just feeling his inner thigh. People are so retarded in this country sometimes. When a TSA agent offers a security check with a ‘happy ending,’ I’ll start to wonder.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:09:30am |
re: #478 darthstar
When I fart on an elevator, I immediately press all the buttons for unselected floors and get off at the next one.
Fart thread.
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cliffster Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:10:35am |
Right hand, meet left hand…
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darthstar Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:14:00am |
re: #429 sattv4u2
Thats nothing
On the same day my wife stubbed her toe I had a paper cut and my son had a cinder in his eye!!
/
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:15:28am |
Kind of Black - an album of Black Sabbath songs done in acid jazz style, heavy on Hammond B3 organ, is my favorite album for the next day or so.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:17:16am |
Police: Airbag credited with saving choking man
(CNN) — The impact of an airbag that deployed during a three-car accident is being credited with saving the life of a man, police say, dislodging a raisin that he was choking on while driving.Richard Silvia, 53, an oil tank repairman from Falmouth, Massachusetts, lost consciousness and eventually control of his vehicle as a result of the apparent choking incident, according to a Falmouth police report filed Monday.
His car then careened into oncoming traffic, it said.
The impact of the airbag against Silvia’s face and chest dislodged the raisin, “reviving the operator to consciousness,” according to the report.
Police said Silvia suffered a minor abrasion on his wrist, while a woman involved in the accident is currently being treated for back injuries at a local hospital.
“Physically he’s there, but mentally he’s not,” his fiancee, Lisa Dempsey, told CNN. “He won’t eat at all since the accident unless somebody is there.”
Neither Silvia nor the woman injured in the accident could be immediately reached for comment.
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:20:27am |
re: #484 Varek Raith
I knew there was a raisin he crashed his car!
Not trying to start a pun thread, but couldn’t resist.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:20:31am |
re: #456 rwdflynavy
They would probably say that being a government employee does not immediately translate to competence…
Good point - because there are no examples of incompetence among employees of non-governmental entities.
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:21:35am |
re: #483 negativ
Kind of Black - an album of Black Sabbath songs done in acid jazz style, heavy on Hammond B3 organ, is my favorite album for the next day or so.
Those stylistic mash ups are great. There’s one that’s a bluegrass interpretation of Van Halen and Dred Zeppelin which is reggae versions of Led Zep.
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:22:33am |
re: #486 Talking Point Detective
Good point - because there are no examples of incompetence among employees of non-governmental entities.
What! The market should make those people unemployable! Only socialists continue to employ people who can’t do their jobs!
//
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:27:17am |
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:27:21am |
Gonzales also told me that he’s in the midst of reading Bush’s book Decision Points — and while he’s found his former boss’ memoir “insightful,” he remembers some events a bit differently than the former president.
I don’t know how it’s possible that he remembers anything:
I would guess that he’s got to be careful about what he remembers or end up in jail on perjury charges.
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darthstar Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:27:31am |
re: #487 PT Barnum
Those stylistic mash ups are great. There’s one that’s a bluegrass interpretation of Van Halen and Dred Zeppelin which is reggae versions of Led Zep.
Hayseed Dixie is a great bluegrass AC/DC cover as well.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:42:17am |
re: #484 Varek Raith
Choking on food is probably a terrible way to die, because I know from experience that you feel so unbelievably stupid while you’re choking.
Once upon a time, I came freakishly close to death from a spoonful of Grape Nuts cereal. Grape Nuts can’t really be enjoyed when it’s still completely crunchy. It’s like eating tiny rocks at that point. If it soaks in milk too long, however, it becomes a terrible slurpy porridge, and unless you are the type who likes cold oatmeal, that’s just no good at all. In between those two poles is a particular Grape Nuts texture that’s still somewhat solid and chewy.
The downside is that it compacts like nature’s own caulking material. And so it was that one day, I was mindlessly ingesting some of this stuff, and SOMEHOW managed to get a big clump of it lodged in my trachea. This illustrates the bad design whereby we eat through the same hole from which we breathe. My ability to inhale or exhale just ceased. It’s truly amazing how rapidly you revert to animal instincts when you suddenly find yourself unable to breathe. Yet, I still managed to notice how ridiculously absurd it was that I, the contemporary iteration of an unbroken chain of life traceable all the way back billions of years to the first self-replicating molecule, all my ancestors having survived disease, plague, famine, predators, lightning strikes, war, accidents, and all of the other uncountable ways you can die, was about to be done in by a tiny little glorp of food, which was ironic considering I needed food to live.
I was really, seriously, fer-real close to losing consciousness, and had I done so, that would have been that. Somehow I finally managed to cough it out, and thusly I remain here to pollute the internets with my presence.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:46:45am |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:47:49am |
Instapundit is linking to this creepy article today: In defence of the white working class
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:48:58am |
re: #488 PT Barnum
What! The market should make those people unemployable! Only socialists continue to employ people who can’t do their jobs!
//
One has to wonder if all of these folks who think that government employees are the devil incarnate have ever walked into a store, talked to a customer service representative on the phone, ever bought a product that fell apart as soon as they brought it home, etc.
Where do these people live - some kind of Utopian island in the middle of the country that I’ve never heard of?
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:49:14am |
re: #495 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is linking to this creepy article today: In defence of the white working class
Ok, right off the bat,
Anti-racism
WTH? Is that suppossed to be bad? Like being “Anti Colonial”?
:/
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:51:29am |
re: #498 Varek Raith
White rights!
/Wingnut
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:53:36am |
re: #493 negativ
=This illustrates the bad design whereby we eat through the same hole from which we breathe.
One of the many reasons that creationism is crap. You’d think that if we were intelligently designed, there would have been more, well, intelligence shown in the design.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:53:59am |
And the outrage over the TSA security measure continue from the wingnut fright factory….
Airport security has been a major focus of security efforts since 9/11, and rightly so. However, the government’s approach to keeping our skies safe has often been marked by an unfortunate focus on high-tech gimmicks and identity-based security — and, more recently, highly invasive pat-downs — that not only threaten American values but also fall short as an effective way to secure aviation.
The government should enact procedures that pose the least threat to our civil liberties and are also proven to be effective. Routine full body scanning, embarrassingly intimate pat-downs and racial profiling do not fit those criteria. The government must act quickly to take all reasonable steps to close any holes in our security, but it must also act wisely and in a manner consistent with our values.
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jaunte Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:54:22am |
re: #495 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is linking to this creepy article today: In defence of the white working class
“The fashionable push for healthier school dinners has a nasty sub-text of bullying intolerance towards working-class eating habits”
Salad victimization is going anglosphere wide.
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:54:32am |
re: #497 Talking Point Detective
One has to wonder if all of these folks who think that government employees are the devil incarnate have ever walked into a store, talked to a customer service representative on the phone, ever bought a product that fell apart as soon as they brought it home, etc.
Where do these people live - some kind of Utopian island in the middle of the country that I’ve never heard of?
Reality doesn’t trump their ideology. Ever.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:55:19am |
re: #502 jaunte
“The fashionable push for healthier school dinners has a nasty sub-text of bullying intolerance towards working-class eating habits”
Salad victimization is going anglosphere wide.
HELP, HELP!
I’M BEING REPRESSED!
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PT Barnum Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:55:54am |
re: #502 jaunte
“The fashionable push for healthier school dinners has a nasty sub-text of bullying intolerance towards working-class eating habits”
Salad victimization is going anglosphere wide.
They’re all persecuted, don’t you know that!?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:58:52am |
re: #495 Killgore Trout
Instapundit is linking to this creepy article today: In defence of the white working class
That is the craziest thing I’ve read in several hours.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:58:53am |
re: #500 PT Barnum
One of the many reasons that creationism is crap. You’d think that if we were intelligently designed, there would have been more, well, intelligence shown in the design.
Cancer would be another example that comes to mind.
Of course, maybe an all-knowing and infallible God really did design gene mutations that cause cells to reproduce uncontrollably, resulting in incredibly painful suffering for hundreds and hundreds of millions of humans on an on-going basis.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:00:51am |
re: #507 Talking Point Detective
It’s to test your faith. Same rationale behind birth defects and the Bot Fly.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:02:20am |
re: #503 PT Barnum
Reality doesn’t trump their ideology. Ever.
ENRON pretty much sealed the deal on that truism.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:02:20am |
re: #506 negativ
That is the craziest thing I’ve read in several hours.
No one ever comes to the defense of vampires.
Jerks.
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Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:02:23am |
re: #500 PT Barnum
re: #507 Talking Point Detective
Setting the ID design issue aside for a moment…
My reaction to the human body is the opposite of that. I marvel at how well it all works. Cancer is tragic and yet merely one facet of all life’s natural impermanence. We all go to make room for the next. God, nature or accident of the universe, that’s the deal.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:02:48am |
re: #502 jaunte
“The fashionable push for healthier school dinners has a nasty sub-text of bullying intolerance towards working-class eating habits”
Salad victimization is going anglosphere wide.
lol
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:03:24am |
re: #508 negativ
It’s to test your faith. Same rationale behind birth defects and the Bot Fly.
Couldn’t he have just issued us all pop quzzes every couple of weeks like they did in jr. high?
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:04:09am |
re: #510 Varek Raith
No one ever comes to the defense of vampires.
Jerks.
I mean, what could you all possibly have against the undead?!
:P
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:05:04am |
re: #495 Killgore Trout
That article references the incredibly terrible polemic The Likes of Us: A Biography of the White Working Class, too. It’s a really blinkered book that ignores most of the reality of the ‘white working class’ in Britain— including the entire issue of Irish immigrants— in order to mount an attack against the middle class as the oppressors of the working class.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:05:33am |
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:06:09am |
re: #511 Rightwingconspirator
re: #507 Talking Point Detective
Setting the ID design issue aside for a moment…
My reaction to the human body is the opposite of that. I marvel at how well it all works. Cancer is tragic and yet merely one facet of all life’s natural impermanence. We all go to make room for the next. God, nature or accident of the universe, that’s the deal.
Good point. The level of complexity in what goes “wrong” with cancer is incredibly fascinating.
Take a listen if you get a chance:
javascript:NPR.Player.openPlayer(131382460,%20131382510,%20null,%20NPR.Player.Action.PLAY_NOW,%20NPR.Player.Type.STORY,%20’0’)
Mukherjee’s new book, The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer, grew out of his desire to better understand the disease he treats, through examining the way cancer has been described and treated throughout history. He chronicles the ways therapies evolved, particularly in the 20th century, as more treatment options became available and scientists worked to understand the underlying genetic mutations that caused the disease.
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:08:49am |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:21:26am |
re: #502 jaunte
“The fashionable push for healthier school dinners has a nasty sub-text of bullying intolerance towards working-class eating habits”
Salad victimization is going anglosphere wide.
Who has decided that salads are not “working-class”?
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jaunte Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:25:21am |
re: #519 reine.de.tout
I think Leo McKinstry is just throwing out a catalog of potential resentments hoping something will stick as a rallying cry against the people he doesn’t like.
“Remember the Arugula!”
telegraph.co.uk
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:26:02am |
re: #519 reine.de.tout
Never mind that. Some jackass has politicized food.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:26:41am |
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:26:48am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:27:13am |
Oops… Drudge or Alex Jones must have infiltrated the Democrats… this can’t be right… must be some wingnut plot…
In a letter Friday to TSA Administrator John Pistole, Reps. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, and Shelia Jackson Lee (D-Texas) said the agency should rethink the new screening procedures in light of the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday, typically the busiest travel time of the year.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:29:01am |
re: #522 Varek Raith
I’ll get the (pitch) forks!
There are, presumably, a correspondingly diverse variety of pitchforks. The revolution will collapse in upon itself unless we can agree about when and why to use the relish pitchfork, the salad pitchfork, the dinner pitchfork, and so on.
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Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:29:28am |
The ACLU has a point on this one…
The ACLU, the New York Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers have filed a lawsuit challenging the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) policy of searching, copying and detaining travelers’ laptops, cell phones and other electronic devices at the border, even when DHS has no reason to believe a search would reveal wrongdoing.
September 15, 2010
The DHS suspicionless search policy applies to both U.S. citizens and non-U.S. citizens, and subjects travelers to the possibility of having their most personal information — such as financial records, family photographs and lists of Web sites visited — reviewed by government agents. Between October 1, 2008 and June 2, 2010, over 6,500 people — nearly 3,000 of them U.S. citizens — were subjected to a search of their electronic devices as they crossed U.S. borders. DHS claims it has the right to conduct these invasive searches whenever it likes, to whomever it likes, and without having any individualized suspicion.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:30:21am |
re: #526 Rightwingconspirator
The ACLU has a point on this one…
The ACLU, the New York Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers have filed a lawsuit challenging the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) policy of searching, copying and detaining travelers’ laptops, cell phones and other electronic devices at the border, even when DHS has no reason to believe a search would reveal wrongdoing.
September 15, 2010The DHS suspicionless search policy applies to both U.S. citizens and non-U.S. citizens, and subjects travelers to the possibility of having their most personal information — such as financial records, family photographs and lists of Web sites visited — reviewed by government agents. Between October 1, 2008 and June 2, 2010, over 6,500 people — nearly 3,000 of them U.S. citizens — were subjected to a search of their electronic devices as they crossed U.S. borders. DHS claims it has the right to conduct these invasive searches whenever it likes, to whomever it likes, and without having any individualized suspicion.
Wait…
They copy the hard drives of those devices?
WTF.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:31:27am |
re: #524 Walter L. Newton
Oops… Drudge or Alex Jones must have infiltrated the Democrats… this can’t be right… must be some wingnut plot…
[Link: thehill.com…]
The pat downs I can sort of get why many think that’s going too far.
The scanners, not so much.
C’est la vie.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:35:42am |
re: #526 Rightwingconspirator
Not really. The courts have always sided with searches at airports. I ignored their statements on the body scanners and pat downs because they make the false statement that it’s not effective in finding weapons. They aren’t making an honest argument.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:36:37am |
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:36:51am |
re: #527 Varek Raith
Yep.
Solution:
Remove hard drive
Ship hard drive via FedEx to destination
Bonus:
Install spare hard drive
Install minimal OS with bootup script like so -
#!/bin/bash
clear
echo “Arming…”
sleep 3
echo “Armed.”
echo “Detonation in 10 seconds.”
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:37:00am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:38:44am |
re: #530 Killgore Trout
Probably not.
Pascal Abidor, a 26-year-old dual U.S.-French citizen who had his laptop searched and confiscated at the Canadian border while traveling home to New York on an Amtrak train in May 2010. Abidor, an Islamic Studies Ph.D. student, was questioned, handcuffed, taken off the train and kept in a holding cell for several hours before being released without charge. When his laptop was returned 11 days later, there was evidence that many of his personal files, including research, photos, and chats with his girlfriend, had been searched.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:39:51am |
re: #532 Varek Raith
Yeah, epic fail on my part on that one.
:)
Between October 1, 2008 and June 2, 2010, over 6,500 people — nearly 3,000 of them U.S. citizens — were subjected to a search of their electronic devices as they crossed U.S. borders. DHS claims it has the right to conduct these invasive searches whenever it likes, to whomever it likes, and without having any individualized suspicion.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:39:58am |
re: #532 Varek Raith
Yeah, epic fail on my part on that one.
:)
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:40:12am |
re: #527 Varek Raith
There’s a lot of misinformation being circulated to amp up the anti-tsa hysteria,,,,
Can TSA Copy Your Laptop Hard Drive and Search Your Files?
I read comments every now and then about how TSA officers at checkpoint and baggage locations can search the files on your laptop and can also confiscate your computer and copy your hard drive.
This is not true. In fact, we blogged about it back in February of 2008.
Our officers might visually inspect your laptop and perform an explosives trace detection test, but that’s it. Our officers don’t even turn computers on during inspection.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:41:19am |
re: #536 Killgore Trout
This is about HSA… not TSA… see…
and
re: #535 negativ
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
[Link: www.wired.com…]
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]
[Link: www.nysun.com…]
| 538 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:41:50am |
re: #533 Walter L. Newton
It’s sounds like he was being investigated for terrorism charges.
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Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:42:44am |
re: #523 Killgore Trout
This guy…
Jimmy Dean Sausage Complaint call[Video]
I have got to go run off a few calorie just listening to that…
BTW this rainy morning Dragon_Lady made fresh blueberry pancakes. What a great start to the day.
No sausage.
| 540 |
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:43:00am |
re: #536 Killgore Trout
There’s a lot of misinformation being circulated to amp up the anti-tsa hysteria,,,
Can TSA Copy Your Laptop Hard Drive and Search Your Files?
Our officers might visually inspect your laptop and perform an explosives trace detection test, but that’s it. Our officers don’t even turn computers on during inspection.
This is false. My brother travels frequently with his laptop, and is frequently required to turn it on.
| 541 |
elizajane Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:44:22am |
re: #502 jaunte
“The fashionable push for healthier school dinners has a nasty sub-text of bullying intolerance towards working-class eating habits”
Salad victimization is going anglosphere wide.
It’s delayed rebellion against mom. They’re taking the “nanny” part of “nanny state” very seriously.
Eat my greens? H*ll no!
| 542 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:44:58am |
re: #540 negativ
from the rest of that post….
So where are the reports coming from? They’re coming from people who have had their laptops searched by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). For more details on CBP’s mission, check out this post from the recently retired Deputy Commissioner at U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Jayson Ahern.So where is the confusion taking place? Well, many passengers often confuse CBP with TSA. Why? They have uniforms with the Department of Homeland Security patch and some people automatically assume they are TSA officers since they’re working in an airport capacity. TSA and CBP officers have different uniforms. The CBP uniform is navy blue, while the TSA uniform is more of a royal blue. You will only interact with CBP when you’re coming into the country.
| 543 |
Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:45:31am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
I’ll kindly disagree. Just because I took a trip out of the country should not mean I lose my search protections coming back. Apart from goods brought back of course. But the contents of my phone and laptop or camera? No way. Not without probable cause.
| 544 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:46:00am |
re: #540 negativ
This is false. My brother travels frequently with his laptop, and is frequently required to turn it on.
I’ve traveled internationally with all sorts of electronic goodies in a small satchel, and I have certainly been asked to turn the devices on at the TSA and European security checkpoint. I’ve also had my “toys” handled by security and sniffed for chemicals.
This statement (” Our officers don’t even turn computers on during inspection”) is only “true” if you consider that they ask YOU to turn them on.
| 545 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:47:05am |
re: #543 Rightwingconspirator
They don’t copy your hardrive. It’s a false rumor.
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Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:47:22am |
re: #540 negativ
This is false. My brother travels frequently with his laptop, and is frequently required to turn it on.
Me too. I turn it on but just to show it works, not a bomb made to look like a laptop, or a bomb in a gutted laptop. I always wondered what would happen if it failed to turn on at that moment.
| 547 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:47:32am |
re: #545 Killgore Trout
They don’t copy your hardrive. It’s a false rumor.
And you know this as a verifiable fact?
| 548 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:48:16am |
re: #546 Rightwingconspirator
Me too. I turn it on but just to show it works, not a bomb made to look like a laptop, or a bomb in a gutted laptop. I always wondered what would happen if it failed to turn on at that moment.
I’ve always wondered if it was a bomb, you did turn it on and blammo… I guess that’s better then it going off while in the air.
| 549 |
jaunte Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:48:59am |
re: #545 Killgore Trout
They don’t copy your hardrive. It’s a false rumor.
It doesn’t seem like there would be enough time.
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elizajane Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:49:02am |
re: #540 negativ
This is false. My brother travels frequently with his laptop, and is frequently required to turn it on.
I don’t know where he travels to, but they haven’t been doing this for trips to Europe for many years. They asked you to turn on computers briefly, not long after 9/11, when I think the scanners weren’t very good. Now you just have to put your computer in a separate bin so they can be sure it’s thoroughly scanned.
| 551 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:49:12am |
re: #544 Walter L. Newton
This statement (” Our officers don’t even turn computers on during inspection”) is only “true” if you consider that they ask YOU to turn them on.
That’s true. they do it that way because they don’t want to handle or search your computer. They ask you to turn it on to make sure it’s actually a functioning computer and not a gutted shell filled with explosives. It’s common sense security.
| 552 |
Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:49:57am |
re: #545 Killgore Trout
They do not have the right to even view the material. If you are correct fine, but we better see what is behind the contention. The ACLU gets AD (Advocates Disease, a syndrome of overstatement and disproportional analysis) often enough to worry.
| 553 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:50:04am |
re: #549 jaunte
It doesn’t seem like there would be enough time.
Pascal Abidor, a 26-year-old dual U.S.-French citizen who had his laptop searched and confiscated at the Canadian border while traveling home to New York on an Amtrak train in May 2010. Abidor, an Islamic Studies Ph.D. student, was questioned, handcuffed, taken off the train and kept in a holding cell for several hours before being released without charge. When his laptop was returned 11 days later, there was evidence that many of his personal files, including research, photos, and chats with his girlfriend, had been searched.
Would that be enough time?
| 554 |
jaunte Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:50:48am |
re: #553 Walter L. Newton
Yes; I’m thinking of the vast majority of people who just pass through in minutes.
| 556 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:51:20am |
re: #551 Killgore Trout
That’s true. they do it that way because they don’t want to handle or search your computer. They ask you to turn it on to make sure it’s actually a functioning computer and not a gutted shell filled with explosives. It’s common sense security.
I didn’t say it wasn’t. But it’s a weasel statement to claim “Our officers don’t even turn computers on during inspection.” Technically true, but evades the actual point, the point that they do have the objects turned on.
| 557 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:51:49am |
re: #547 Walter L. Newton
And you know this as a verifiable fact?
Well I suppose it’s possible that they are lying about copying people’s hard drives and are secretly sending the information the Xenu who’s going to establish the New World Order with the cooperation of Jewish International Bankers.
/
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Talking Point Detective Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:52:26am |
re: #523 Killgore Trout
This guy…
Jimmy Dean Sausage Complaint call[Video]
Three men, a woman, and a 13 year-old girl.
A coupla dozen eggs??!!
| 559 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 8:59:00am |
re: #557 Killgore Trout
Well I suppose it’s possible that they are lying about copying people’s hard drives and are secretly sending the information the Xenu who’s going to establish the New World Order with the cooperation of Jewish International Bankers.
/
Oh? Yea… I guess so… you’re right… makes sense.
| 560 |
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:00:12am |
re: #523 Killgore Trout
lulzy though it may be, Bubba *almost* makes a point about the pervasive Grocery Shrink Ray. Rather than raise prices, the trend is to charge the same price for less product.
| 561 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:00:20am |
re: #558 Talking Point Detective
Three men, a woman, and a 13 year-old girl.
A coupla dozen eggs??!!
With t-bone steaks. Not enough Sausage!
| 562 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:05:54am |
re: #549 jaunte
It doesn’t seem like there would be enough time.
Where I used to work, there was a rumor going around once, that a particular person who was hired, was hired to monitor and review everybody’s phone calls, every day, and that he was secretly recording all the phone calls and then listening to them. Everybody was in a complete panic.
So, let’s do the math.
400 people worked in the building. Let’s say, on average, all 400 spent 2 hours a day on various phone calls. That’s 800 hours of phone calls in a day. In order to review all the “taped” phone calls, there would have to have been a staff of 100 people, working 8 hours overnight, to listen to all the phone calls.
The whole thing was just stupid. I don’t know why people don’t stop to THINK about these sorts of things before they get all panicked about it.
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:07:16am |
re: #486 Talking Point Detective
Good point - because there are no examples of incompetence among employees of non-governmental entities.
Of course there are…are you dense or something?
//
| 564 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:08:04am |
Yeah…
Sounds kind of fishy.
I got a one terabyte hard drive that is nearly full.
How the hell long do you think it’ll take to copy that?
| 565 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:08:09am |
re: #493 negativ
This illustrates the bad design whereby we eat through the same hole from which we breathe.
Speak for yourself, mouth breather.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:08:32am |
re: #562 reine.de.tout
400 people worked in the building. Let’s say, on average, all 400 spent 2 hours a day on various phone calls. That’s 800 hours of phone calls in a day. In order to review all the “taped” phone calls, there would have to have been a staff of 100 people, working 8 hours overnight, to listen to all the phone calls.
It’s even worse then. The dude clearly had superpowers.
| 567 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:09:31am |
re: #562 reine.de.tout
The whole thing was just stupid. I don’t know why people don’t stop to THINK about these sorts of things before they get all panicked about it.
Agreed. Most of it can be sorted out with a little common sense but people are so lathered up with conspiracies and misinformation. Stories of TSA atrocities are popping up all over the internet like UFO sightings. With just a little bit of critical thinking most of it is BS.
I’m open to a real discussion about the new scanners but the people opposing them aren’t making their case from an honest place.
| 568 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:11:11am |
re: #567 Killgore Trout
Agreed. Most of it can be sorted out with a little common sense but people are so lathered up with conspiracies and misinformation. Stories of TSA atrocities are popping up all over the internet like UFO sightings. With just a little bit of critical thinking most of it is BS.
I’m open to a real discussion about the new scanners but the people opposing them aren’t making their case from an honest place.
I agree KT. I am glad the pilots can now opt out. Given the fact we entrust them with control of the plane, I’m not terribly worried about them sneaking a set of nail clippers on the plane.
| 569 |
prairiefire Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:11:14am |
re: #560 negativ
lulzy though it may be, Bubba *almost* makes a point about the pervasive Grocery Shrink Ray. Rather than raise prices, the trend is to charge the same price for less product.
This happens all the time. The ever shrinking ice cream container.
| 570 |
allegro Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:12:16am |
re: #567 Killgore Trout
I’m open to a real discussion about the new scanners but the people opposing them aren’t making their case from an honest place.
Personally speaking, I would prefer that to my last experience flying when my underwire bra set off the thingie and I was a bit more than patted down to prove the source of the metal. It was not an enjoyable experience.
| 571 |
prairiefire Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:14:20am |
re: #570 allegro
You would think TSA would have known that it was from the underwire bra. That’s how most of the bras are made now adays.
| 572 |
allegro Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:15:08am |
re: #571 prairiefire
I think it was the timing. It was January 2002 and my destination was D.C. There was also that nipple ring thingie. :/
| 573 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:16:16am |
Through Panda’s Thumb I found what I think was impossible: a second honest and smart PhD YEC. (The first one being Kurt Wise.)
Here’s his interesting report on the geocentric conference:
toddcwood.blogspot.com
toddcwood.blogspot.com
toddcwood.blogspot.com
toddcwood.blogspot.com
toddcwood.blogspot.com
BTW, while reading, I googled one of the names and turned out that one of the presenters, Jones, is an old-school hard-line Catholic who wrote a 1200-page antisemitic Bible called something like “The Revolutionary Jew”. I googled for the name of the book and found an enthusiastic review of this book by yet another conference participant, Sungenis, who is also a Catholic fundie and one of the most visible “Galileo was wrong” guys (dunno of they’re all sedevacantists or not, but they sure like to malign the 2nd Vat. Council). Crazy attracts crazy like crazy.
| 575 |
wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:16:51am |
re: #571 prairiefire
You would think TSA would have known that it was from the underwire bra. That’s how most of the bras are made now adays.
I avoid underwire bras like the plague. The last couple that I had I removed the underwires (which were plastic in one case).
‘Course I don’t need all that much support. YMMV.
| 576 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:17:23am |
re: #573 Sergey Romanov
And here is his article “The Chimpanzee Genome and the Problem of Biological Similarity” - documents.clubexpress.com
Also refreshingly honest and informative for a YEC.
| 577 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:18:01am |
| 578 |
prairiefire Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:18:46am |
re: #575 wrenchwench
I avoid underwire bras like the plague. The last couple that I had I removed the underwires (which were plastic in one case).
‘Course I don’t need all that much support. YMMV.
Ha, same for me. My bras feature foam.
| 579 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:19:27am |
| 580 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:19:35am |
re: #566 Sergey Romanov
It’s even worse then. The dude clearly had superpowers.
heehee.
Mebbe so.
My office and I set up an alternate non-recordable “phone” system - some oatmeal boxes with strings. LOL.
| 581 |
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:19:47am |
re: #565 rwdflynavy
Speak for yourself, mouth breather.
//
I’d be willing to negotiate a fee to see a video of you snorting a granola bar.
| 582 |
prairiefire Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:20:08am |
| 583 |
SteveC Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:20:09am |
re: #556 Walter L. Newton
I didn’t say it wasn’t. But it’s a weasel statement to claim “Our officers don’t even turn computers on during inspection.” Technically true, but evades the actual point, the point that they do have the objects turned on.
I’ve got a new backpack, Swissgear’s ScanSmart.
TSA says that if your laptop computer is isolated with nothing else around it, you probably won’t have to remove it from your travel case. You put your laptop into the ScanSmart then when you get to the checkpoint, unzip one zipper. The bag unfolds like a clamshell with the laptop (and ONLY the laptop) on one side and all your travel gear on the other. Never had a problem, never had to remove the laptop. You think sooner or later someone would say “We need to see your laptop,” but not yet.
| 584 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:20:20am |
re: #581 negativ
I’d be willing to negotiate a fee to see a video of you snorting a granola bar.
How much we talking?
//
| 585 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:20:41am |
re: #571 prairiefire
You would think TSA would have known that it was from the underwire bra. That’s how most of the bras are made now adays.
I thought most underwire bras today had some sort of plastic “wire”, rather than metal.
| 586 |
allegro Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:21:12am |
| 587 |
prairiefire Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:22:15am |
re: #585 reine.de.tout
I thought most underwire bras today had some sort of plastic “wire”, rather than metal.
I will respect you superior knowledge on the subject. If I double layer tops, I don’t even need one.
| 588 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:23:09am |
re: #567 Killgore Trout
Agreed. Most of it can be sorted out with a little common sense but people are so lathered up with conspiracies and misinformation. Stories of TSA atrocities are popping up all over the internet like UFO sightings. With just a little bit of critical thinking most of it is BS.…
There ya go.
I don’t know what’s happened, that people are so willing to think or believe whatever - they’ve lost the ability to think about things.
| 589 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:23:15am |
re: #581 negativ
I’d be willing to negotiate a fee to see a video of you snorting a granola bar.
Pay up sucker!
Ok, that’s not me…
| 590 |
allegro Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:23:25am |
re: #585 reine.de.tout
I thought most underwire bras today had some sort of plastic “wire”, rather than metal.
Checking my current supporting garment, it does seem to be plastic since it’s bendie.
| 592 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:24:03am |
| 593 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:24:40am |
| 594 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:25:14am |
| 595 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:26:42am |
re: #419 RogueOne
My brother is back in the hospital this morning. There’s something seriously wrong. I’m afraid he’s gone mental. He’s starting to act like Randy Quaid which is completely 180 degrees from his normal. I’m concerned he has a brain tumor, either that or he’s losing his mind. Can people who were previously incredibly mentally tough (he’s been in combat and survived 2 chopper crashes) just lose it that late in life? He just turned 40 which I think is too old for schizophrenia or any of the regular mental diseases.
I think you can have a breakdown at any point in your life, and it sounds like he’s a prime candidate for some sort of PTSD or something.
What does the hospital have to say?
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:28:45am |
re: #567 Killgore Trout
Most of it can be sorted out with a little common sense but people are so lathered up with conspiracies and misinformation. Stories of TSA atrocities are popping up all over the internet like UFO sightings. With just a little bit of critical thinking most of it is BS.
I knew there was a reason the “Common Sense” slogan was bugging me. It’s for populist appeal, and needs to be throw out in favor of “Critical Thinking”. The wingnuts won’t do it, though.
| 597 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:29:16am |
re: #439 sattv4u2
I fear this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. There will be incidents at check points (sadly)
I heard that theres an online “protest” going viral asking people to refuse both the pat down and the scans on Wednesday of this week
Not good,, not good at all (imho)
It will choke waiting lines on THE busiest travel (air) day of the year
For some reason, I’m now imagining a plane being hijacked and diverted to some random location by a frantic soccer mom who looks a lot like my aunt. Snaps, after having to deal with both TSA and the anti-TSA protesters. Announces that we’re all going to an airstrip in Nome or someplace, where we will all have a NICE Thanksgiving. GODDAMN IT!
| 598 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:29:35am |
Life is so strange…I ran into 3 marines last night at the Campus pub…i introduced myself and told them about Jordan..I said he was in the 3/5th.. They were in the 3/5th and in Fallujah at the same time as Jordan…We talked almost all night and I had the best time since being in Oklahoma..I bought the beer..Those boys know how to drink beer..I’m still jacked today..( head is a little fuzzy)
Dang life is strange
| 599 |
allegro Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:30:36am |
re: #596 wrenchwench
I knew there was a reason the “Common Sense” slogan was bugging me. It’s for populist appeal, and needs to be throw out in favor of “Critical Thinking”. The wingnuts won’t do it, though.
That’s just the old “absent minded professor” meme that is used by the uneducated or less educated, sometimes just stupid, people to feel superior.
| 600 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:30:56am |
re: #464 RogueOne
Woman who destroyed controversial artwork gets plea deal
[Link: www.9news.com…]
Does she have to stay away from art galleries as part of the deal?
| 601 |
garhighway Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:31:09am |
re: #454 sattv4u2
At least a dozen airports in the country, in San Francisco, Jackson Hole, Wyo., and Rochester N.Y., already use private screeners.
I would like to see/hear what passengers going through those airports have to say about the process as opposed to ones going through TSA screened airports
It’s the same process.
The speed of the process is mainly dependent on the size of the airport.
| 602 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:31:46am |
re: #597 SanFranciscoZionist
For some reason, I’m now imagining a plane being hijacked and diverted to some random location by a frantic soccer mom who looks a lot like my aunt. Snaps, after having to deal with both TSA and the anti-TSA protesters. Announces that we’re all going to an airstrip in Nome or someplace, where we will all have a NICE Thanksgiving. GODDAMN IT!
“Here’s some nice cranberry sauce, deary.”
“But, I don’t really li…”
“HERE’S SOME NICE CRANBERRY SAUCE, DEARY!”
“Yes, ma’am.”
| 603 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:31:47am |
re: #474 darthstar
Sarah Palin embracing her inner bigot? Who would have thought that possible? You could make a coffee table book of her tweefs and facebook fails if you collected them all.
I’m sure someone has.
That person will be sent to Gitmo once she is president.
| 604 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:32:01am |
re: #596 wrenchwench
I knew there was a reason the “Common Sense” slogan was bugging me. It’s for populist appeal, and needs to be throw out in favor of “Critical Thinking”. The wingnuts won’t do it, though.
It’s not just the wingnuts… as I pointed out above…
In a letter Friday to TSA Administrator John Pistole, Reps. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, and Shelia Jackson Lee (D-Texas) said the agency should rethink the new screening procedures in light of the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday, typically the busiest travel time of the year.
Even the ACLU has weighted in on this…
Airport security has been a major focus of security efforts since 9/11, and rightly so. However, the government’s approach to keeping our skies safe has often been marked by an unfortunate focus on high-tech gimmicks and identity-based security — and, more recently, highly invasive pat-downs — that not only threaten American values but also fall short as an effective way to secure aviation.
This is becoming a bipartisan issue.
| 605 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:32:15am |
re: #601 garhighway
It’s the same process.
The speed of the process is mainly dependent on the size of the airport.
In my experience, the smaller the airport, the quicker the process.
| 606 |
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:32:25am |
re: #589 rwdflynavy
Dumbass stunts on YouTube
The [highly enjoyable] thing about really hot peppers like habaneros, scotch bonnets, and ghost peppers is that the heat comes on slowly and lingers relentlessly. I don’t think I’d much enjoy eating any of them whole and raw, however.
| 607 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:33:20am |
re: #601 garhighway
It’s the same process.
The speed of the process is mainly dependent on the size of the airport.
Can you request a woman screener?
Higher..Higher..Come on..what a rip-off
| 608 |
rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:34:08am |
re: #604 Walter L. Newton
Wow, I agree with the ACLU! Weird…
| 609 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:35:14am |
re: #608 rwdflynavy
Wow, I agree with the ACLU! Weird…
They’re reasonable about.
The wingnuts?
Not so much.
| 610 |
wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:36:03am |
re: #604 Walter L. Newton
I meant to speak more generally. I did not intend to comment on the TSA stuff. I’m avoiding that. One must choose one’s battles; or as Mr. w would say, “That’s not my windmill.”
| 611 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:36:49am |
re: #610 wrenchwench
I meant to speak more generally. I did not intend to comment on the TSA stuff. I’m avoiding that. One must choose one’s battles; or as Mr. w would say, “That’s not my windmill.”
Aww, that’s no fun!
CHARGE!
| 612 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:37:13am |
re: #608 rwdflynavy
Wow, I agree with the ACLU! Weird…
Well.. I don’t. Nor do I agree with the conservatives or the left who are making an issue about this. My only point above, is that this issue has become rather non partisan.
| 613 |
wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:37:43am |
Reine, you may wish to apply an upding upthread, at #107.
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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:38:38am |
re: #612 Walter L. Newton
Well.. I don’t. Nor do I agree with the conservatives or the left who are making an issue about this. My only point above, is that this issue has become rather non partisan.
I’m still conflicted on the TSA.
On the one hand, I don’t care about the use of scanners.
On the other, I do not like their use of pat downs.
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garhighway Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:40:06am |
re: #605 rwdflynavy
In my experience, the smaller the airport, the quicker the process.
Mine, too, although I have encountered heavy delays recently in Nashville and Burlington, VT. But I strolled through in Portland, Ore.
So you never know.
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:40:48am |
re: #612 Walter L. Newton
Well.. I don’t. Nor do I agree with the conservatives or the left who are making an issue about this. My only point above, is that this issue has become rather non partisan.
I don’t have a problem with the scanners, I do have a problem with some of the prohibited items. #1 on the list is box cutters. Really? Box cutters? Anyone concerned terrorists are taking down a plane with box cutters again? That was a one time shot.
I completely understand liquids, bomb-improvising stuff etc.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:41:06am |
re: #558 Talking Point Detective
Three men, a woman, and a 13 year-old girl.
A coupla dozen eggs??!!
My grandfather was once asked by a doctor how many eggs he was eating on a regular basis. “‘Bout half a dozen,” said my grandpa.
“Six a week? That’s not too bad,” said the doc.
“A week? No, no every morning!” my grandfather explained.
Along with his bacon, and a bowl of cornflakes.
Kansas farm boy.
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allegro Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:41:54am |
re: #616 rwdflynavy
I don’t have a problem with the scanners, I do have a problem with some of the prohibited items. #1 on the list is box cutters. Really? Box cutters? Anyone concerned terrorists are taking down a plane with box cutters again? That was a one time shot.
I completely understand liquids, bomb-improvising stuff etc.
Wait… you’re cool with box cutters but object to baby formula?
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:43:11am |
re: #618 allegro
Wait… you’re cool with box cutters but object to baby formula?
Babies shouldn’t be allowed to fly.
//
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:43:20am |
re: #575 wrenchwench
I avoid underwire bras like the plague. The last couple that I had I removed the underwires (which were plastic in one case).
‘Course I don’t need all that much support. YMMV.
I will not wear anything with an underwire. And I do need support, but I am willing to shop around for things that don’t leave red welts on me.
And don’t tell me I just need to get FITTED. Been there, done that. Hate underwires.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:44:42am |
re: #614 Varek Raith
I’m still conflicted on the TSA.
On the one hand, I don’t care about the use of scanners.
On the other, I do not like their use of pat downs.
Well… as most Lizards know, I’m headed for Paris for 10 days in Jan. 2011, it’s been three years since I’ve flown international, and I’m really interested in seeing how much has changed both here and in Europe.
I’ve flown twice over the last 2 years, didn’t find anything too different, (flew to Orlando less than a month ago).
Security in Europe has always been stricter than in the US, even on the subway systems, curious to see if it has become even more intense since my last time over there in Jan. 2007.
Of course, I’ll report back.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:45:45am |
re: #612 Walter L. Newton
Well.. I don’t. Nor do I agree with the conservatives or the left who are making an issue about this. My only point above, is that this issue has become rather non partisan.
It’s not really becoming an issue. 81% of the population don’t mind the new security procedures. It’s amplified by the MSM and overblown stories and urban myths circulating on the internet. This will all be forgotten soon once the next outrageous outrage rolls around.
| 623 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:46:45am |
re: #620 SanFranciscoZionist
I will not wear anything with an underwire. And I do need support, but I am willing to shop around for things that don’t leave red welts on me.
And don’t tell me I just need to get FITTED. Been there, done that. Hate underwires.
Bra’s with the old fashioned “stays” are much gentler.
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:47:00am |
re: #615 garhighway
Mine, too, although I have encountered heavy delays recently in Nashville and Burlington, VT. But I strolled through in Portland, Ore.
So you never know.
Nashville is huge compared to El Paso. The El Paso airport is like a small-town, clean bus station. If those exist. My avatar is a photo from the nice courtyard there, with fountains behind the lizards.
| 625 |
Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:47:10am |
re: #622 Killgore Trout
It’s not really becoming an issue. 81% of the population don’t mind the new security procedures. It’s amplified by the MSM and overblown stories and urban myths circulating on the internet. This will all be forgotten soon once the next outrageous outrage rolls around.
The Chinese spent 200 million arugula to launch 34 warships at the WH garden!
| 626 |
HoosierHoops Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:47:26am |
re: #621 Walter L. Newton
I am so jealous..But why Jan? Isn’t springtime in Paris the best time to visit?
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:48:16am |
re: #625 Varek Raith
The Chinese spent 200 million arugula to launch 34 warships at the WH garden!
I thought the Chinese went off the arugula standard in ‘06?
//
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:48:54am |
re: #610 wrenchwench
I meant to speak more generally. I did not intend to comment on the TSA stuff. I’m avoiding that. One must choose one’s battles; or as Mr. w would say, “That’s not my windmill.”
Seriously, I dunno. I do not suspect the TSA of any darker intentions than sort of getting their job done as cheaply and easily as possible, which, in my book, isn’t nearly good enough.
This new kick they’re on hasn’t been particularly explained or justified to me, and they had to know that people would respond poorly.
We’ll see.
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rwdflynavy Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:52:19am |
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wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:52:28am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:52:56am |
re: #626 HoosierHoops
I am so jealous..But why Jan? Isn’t springtime in Paris the best time to visit?
Cost is number one, cheaper to fly, board off season. Less tourists (except Asians), easier to get reservations for certain events, cooler (Europe in the springtime or summer is like a sauna), there’s something magical for me with the crisper air, slight chill, walking around Paris after dark, having more of the streets to myself.
Less strikes (Parisians are not about to strike in the cold weather), over all, just less hassle. More comfortable. Less rushed. Paris is the number one tourist destination in Western Europe.
I always have visited Europe in Jan. or Feb.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 9:59:27am |
re: #622 Killgore Trout
It’s not really becoming an issue. 81% of the population don’t mind the new security procedures. It’s amplified by the MSM and overblown stories and urban myths circulating on the internet. This will all be forgotten soon once the next outrageous outrage rolls around.
In my opinion, it’s certainly an issue. And I guess we will see how much of an issue it is. If the TSA modifies and lessens any of their current security techniques, than I suggest they saw it as an issue too.
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