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This is a test. Take notes. This will count as 3/4 of your final grade. Hints: remember, in chess, kings cancel each other out and cannot occupy adjacent squares, are therefore all-powerful and totally powerless, cannot affect each other, produce stalemate. Hinduism is a polytheistic religion; the sect of Atman worships the divine spark of life within Man; in effect saying, “Thou art God.” Provisos of equal time are not served by one viewpoint having media access to two hundred million people in prime time while opposing viewpoints are provided with a soapbox on the corner. Not everyone tells the truth. Operational note: these sections may be taken out of numerical sequence: rearrange to suit yourself for optimum clarity. Turn over your test papers and begin.

- Harlan Ellison, The Deathbird

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1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 9:53:26pm

Always having to have the last word is a bad trait. Pisses people off.

LAURELL K. HAMILTON, The Lunatic Cafe

2 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 9:55:37pm

...

3 laZardo  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 9:56:41pm

re: #2 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

...

4 jaunte  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 9:57:35pm

'.'

5 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 9:57:38pm

re: #1 ggt

Always having to have the last word is a bad trait. Pisses people off.

LAURELL K. HAMILTON, The Lunatic Cafe

Quite Concur.

6 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:00:17pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur.

No, you don't.
:P

7 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:01:08pm
This is a test. Take notes. This will count as 3/4 of your final grade. Hints: remember, in chess, kings cancel each other out and cannot occupy adjacent squares, are therefore all-powerful and totally powerless, cannot affect each other, produce stalemate. Hinduism is a polytheistic religion; the sect of Atman worships the divine spark of life within Man; in effect saying, “Thou art God.” Provisos of equal time are not served by one viewpoint having media access to two hundred million people in prime time while opposing viewpoints are provided with a soapbox on the corner. Not everyone tells the truth. Operational note: these sections may be taken out of numerical sequence: rearrange to suit yourself for optimum clarity. Turn over your test papers and begin.

None of that was in the Cliffs Notes!

8 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:01:20pm

re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth

No, you don't.
:P

SMACK!

Yes, I do.

9 Timmeh  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:01:21pm

＼(；ﾟДﾟ)/

10 SteveMcG  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:01:25pm

"Shut up" he explained.

11 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:02:33pm

re: #10 SteveMcG

"Shut up" he explained.

My favorite book title: Hello, He lied

12 SteveMcG  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:04:16pm

re: #11 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Wonder if he was the same guy.

13 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:05:09pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

Yes, I do.

More, please?

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:07:18pm

re: #13 Floral Giraffe

I ...

15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:08:23pm

re: #12 SteveMcG

Wonder if he was the same guy.

Well I just learned something new. I looked up "Shut up, he explained" in Amazon, turns out it's the bio of a Hollywood 10s daughter. I now might have to get it.

Thank you for that!

16 jvic  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:08:43pm

Thors Provoni, won't you please come home?

17 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:10:48pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL!
Sleepy B!

18 SteveMcG  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:11:35pm

Just for the heck of it I googled that shut up quote. Some guy Ring Lardner (who I never heard of) has a few gems:
“An optimist is a girl who mistakes a bulge for a curve.”
“He looked at me as if I were a side dish he hadn't ordered.”
"The family you come from isn't as important as the one you're going to have"
and
"'Are you lost, daddy' I asked tenderly. 'Shut up,' he explained."

19 SteveMcG  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:12:13pm

re: #15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well I just learned something new. I looked up "Shut up, he explained" in Amazon, turns out it's the bio of a Hollywood 10s daughter. I now might have to get it.

Thank you for that!

Same here!

20 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:14:58pm

"Murder," she wrote?

21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:18:19pm

re: #18 SteveMcG

Just for the heck of it I googled that shut up quote. Some guy Ring Lardner (who I never heard of) has a few gems:
“An optimist is a girl who mistakes a bulge for a curve.”
“He looked at me as if I were a side dish he hadn't ordered.”
"The family you come from isn't as important as the one you're going to have"
and
"'Are you lost, daddy' I asked tenderly. 'Shut up,' he explained."

re: #19 SteveMcG

Same here!

Yeah that's the guy! His granddaughter named her autobio from that quote, looks like.

Hollywood 10 - more on screenwriter, Ring Lardner Jr.

22 Ben G. Hazi  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:19:21pm

re: #18 SteveMcG

Just for the heck of it I googled that shut up quote. Some guy Ring Lardner (who I never heard of) has a few gems:
“An optimist is a girl who mistakes a bulge for a curve.”
“He looked at me as if I were a side dish he hadn't ordered.”
"The family you come from isn't as important as the one you're going to have"
and
"'Are you lost, daddy' I asked tenderly. 'Shut up,' he explained."


Ring Lardner was a sportswriter and humorist; his son, Ring Lardner Jr., was a screenwriter (M*A*S*H was one of the movies he wrote/doctored a script for), and was one of the "Hollywood Ten".

23 KronoGhazi  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:19:32pm

Went and saw The Help with my wife tonight. A rare movie we both loved, better than I thought it would be.

I was going to recommend it to Haley Barbour and RS McCain. Wonder if they'll like it.

24 Lidane  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:20:46pm

Since Goodhair would rather pray for rain instead of actually doing anything to stop the wildfires, I'll just leave this here:

Texas Wildlife Relief

25 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:21:20pm

re: #23 BigPapa

Went and saw The Help with my wife tonight. A rare movie we both loved, better than I thought it would be.

I was going to recommend it to Haley Barbour and RS McCain. Wonder if they'll like it.

The audiobook was very good too!

26 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:23:07pm

re: #23 BigPapa

Went and saw The Help with my wife tonight. A rare movie we both loved, better than I thought it would be.

I was going to recommend it to Haley Barbour and RS McCain. Wonder if they'll like it.

I've heard extremely mixed reviews, which I end up skipping over ftmp, because I've been trying to avoid any reviews until I see it. I was going to just wait until it comes out on DVD but might have to go see it since it seems unavoidable.

27 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:24:31pm

In a year marked by big weddings, there was another one over the weekend as Lauren Bush married David Lauren. The marriage is a union of political royalty (Lauren Bush is the daughter of Neil Bush and thus the granddaughter of a president (George H.W. Bush) and the niece of another president (George W. Bush) and a governor (Jeb Bush)), and fashion royalty (David Lauren is Ralph Lauren's son).

28 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:25:06pm

"A man sees a beautiful chicken, he can't help but be inquisitive."
-Guy Gadbois

29 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:25:38pm

re: #13 Floral Giraffe

More, please?

Certainly, ma'am!

SMACK!

30 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:29:44pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

In a year marked by big weddings, there was another one over the weekend as Lauren Bush married David Lauren. The marriage is a union of political royalty (Lauren Bush is the daughter of Neil Bush and thus the granddaughter of a president (George H.W. Bush) and the niece of another president (George W. Bush) and a governor (Jeb Bush)), and fashion royalty (David Lauren is Ralph Lauren's son).

Lauren Bush Lauren

31 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:32:07pm

re: #30 ggt

Bush Lauren Bush!

32 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:33:16pm

re: #31 Floral Giraffe

Bush Lauren Bush!

I wanna see a picture of the wedding dress!

33 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:34:02pm

re: #32 ggt

I wanna see a picture of the wedding dress!

I bet she looked great.

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:40:48pm

re: #17 Floral Giraffe

Back in the day, a buddy of mine used to patronize this strip club in our neighborhood frequently, so I went with him one night.

Now I talk a lot of shit here, but I'm not a big fan. Strip clubs have a way of awakening an appetite without bedding it down. Who needs that kind of frustration?

Anyway, one gal gets on stage and reaches back for a self-SMACK.

I turned, looked at my buddy and said "I'm getting the fuck out of here, 'cuz if she's gonna spank it (pointing at her), I'm gonna spank it (pointing at a part of my own anatomy), and nobody wants to see that".

35 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:41:24pm

re: #33 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I bet she looked great.

The sex appeal of the Bush family is greatly misunderestimated. :D

36 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:42:26pm

Night all.

Have a great morning!

37 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:42:53pm

re: #31 Floral Giraffe

Bush Lauren Bush!

Well, I say it's Falcon Season and I say FIRE!

/

38 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:45:46pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

The sex appeal of the Bush family is greatly misunderestimated. :D

Hm well, a few of them, anyway. Jeb's pretty handsome. 43 wasn't so bad in his day...the twins are pretty.

39 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 10:48:13pm

re: #32 ggt

I wanna see a picture of the wedding dress!

I think it was in Vogue, this month. Ralph designed it.

40 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:07:03pm

Well I'm out of things to say for the night, so I'm going to turn in. Goodnight, all.

41 Steve  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:33:44pm

Action springs not from thought, but from the readiness for responsibility.

Detrich Bonhoeffer

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:34:12pm

re: #1 ggt

vampires and werewolves, it's a thang

43 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:35:04pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

The sex appeal of the Bush family is greatly misunderestimated. :D

Royalty is a turnoff for me

44 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:36:51pm

re: #43 WindUpBird

Royalty is a turnoff for me

Don't you like Wills? I love Wills.

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:37:42pm

re: #44 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

??

46 Steve  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:42:28pm

re: #44 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Prenups are good too!

47 freetoken  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:43:11pm

I had a random paragraph scrambler fed the opening quote... and just added the punctuation to make it work... let's see how it comes out:

☟
Adjacent Man: rearrange on test, will out papers.

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Hints: Provisos of

“Thou and clarity,
suit count (Operational out the corner),
yourself - truth.
The art!
Turn, worships, effect affect cannot,
are of note: 3/4 for a access.
Two over kings time,
This sections numerical viewpoint cannot,
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with cancel taken;
remember! "to the in ... "
in powerless, not your (these!)
And to sequence: This/are, in God.”

Atman be each, the optimum opposing produce, (your spark having equal notes) everyone (media, prime viewpoints, divine) within hundred therefore occupy of a saying, are chess. While of squares, Hinduism (test - a sect!), life, other is each final provided soapbox time.

People tells and, of served one, stalemate.
May begin grade.

48 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:45:39pm

re: #45 WindUpBird

Willlllllssss

Image: 69171d1313741115-prince-william-prince-william-images.jpg

Image: 69174d1313741119-prince-william-prince-william-pic.jpg

It takes a special blond to turn my head. I like him!

49 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:46:31pm

re: #43 WindUpBird

Royalty is a turnoff for me

Not much on it myself but there are certain exceptions, like Princess Madeleine of Sweden.

50 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:46:46pm

re: #47 freetoken

Sounds like Cocteau Twins lyrics. Always a good thing, in my book.

51 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:49:01pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

Not much on it myself but there are certain exceptions, like Princess Madeleine of Sweden.

An old friend of mine went to school with Princess Olga of Greece. I never met her, but heard she is really nice.

52 freetoken  Mon, Sep 5, 2011 11:53:30pm
MP3 Audio
53 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:00:15am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

Princess Madeleine was involved in a scandal a couple of years ago when her then fiancee, one Jonas Bergstrom, was revealed to have been cheating with a Norwegian handball player named Tora Upstrom Berg.
This is Tora Upstrom Berg
Bergstrom was elected dumbest man in Europe and rat of the year by general acclamation.

54 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:10:09am

re: #52 freetoken

[Video]

One of the best tap sequences ever filmed

Youtube Video
55 freetoken  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:14:29am
MP3 Audio
56 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:17:01am

re: #55 freetoken

[Video]

Who?! Love her. Them.

57 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:17:38am

re: #54 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

One of the best tap sequences ever filmed

[Video]

Damn, that was awesome....

58 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 1:38:42am

Morning limited Honcos.

59 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 1:54:27am

March of the Hoodlums

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Irving Mills 1929

60 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 1:54:45am

re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar

Morning

61 freetoken  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:02:29am

re: #56 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Who?! Love her. Them.

The Peanuts!

62 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:04:44am

re: #59 dell*nix

March of the Hoodlums

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Irving Mills 1929

I would love to find one of those old "record players" from back in the day. (I can't remember what they're called) I really love radio (and entertainment) and love seeing how it all started, if you will. We had a pawn shop a year or so ago that had WW2 radios for sale, but I had no money to spend on fun stuff.

63 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:08:11am

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gram-a-phones or some such spelling. You had to wind them up prior to play and sometimes even during playing as the springs wound down. Lots of old 78's on youtube. Scratches and all.

64 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:09:42am

Louis Armstrong and his Hot Five

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:11:08am

re: #63 dell*nix

Gram-a-phones or some such spelling. You had to wind them up prior to play and sometimes even during playing as the springs wound down. Lots of old 78's on youtube. Scratches and all.

[Link: inventors.about.com...]

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:11:54am

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: inventors.about.com...]

Wow. That's older then the one pictured in my head.

67 researchok  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:12:18am

Morning, all

68 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:12:52am

I tend to play a lot of 20's, 30's and 40's. Old time jazz and dixieland. Also a lot of euro music of those periods most in French and Spanish. Not that much German though.

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:15:19am

re: #68 dell*nix

I tend to play a lot of 20's, 30's and 40's. Old time jazz and dixieland. Also a lot of euro music of those periods most in French and Spanish. Not that much German though.

When I think of the "old music" like you speak of, I think of the scene in Saving Private Ryan near the end of the movie where the guys are waiting for the Germans listening to some French woman, sitting on a set of steps. Sad but true.

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:22:48am

I'm not into the whole competitive eating contest but this is impressive.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

71 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:23:08am

Here is a ragtime from 1919. Good sound for such an old record.

Youtube Video
72 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:28:38am

And some Scott Joplin cakewalk.

Youtube Video
73 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:31:26am

re: #71 dell*nix

Here is a ragtime from 1919. Good sound for such an old record.

[Video]

Visions from my youth watching the Lil Rascals dance through my head!

Thanks

74 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:34:33am

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm not into the whole competitive eating contest but this is impressive.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

The winner gets $1,500

The 183 wings she ate were worth more!

75 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:37:29am

Decomposed body found in suitcase on Bronx block

Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

Theres an American Tourister Luggage commercial in there somewhere

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:37:38am

re: #74 sattv4u2

The winner gets $1,500

The 183 wings she ate were worth more!

Made me think about taking some of yesterdays earnings and hitting Hooters. I love their wings, the hot chicks are a by-product.

77 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:39:54am

re: #75 sattv4u2

I remember watching one of those "hidden camera" shows and a woman had a body bag on a sidewalk, asking people to help her put it in her car. Most said no but the bag would occasionally move and she would kick it. Too funny.

78 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:41:00am

Tatranksy Express Bratislava Hot Serenaders

Youtube Video
79 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:42:06am

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

A filled body bag should not move. Not if done right.

80 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:43:23am

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

Made me think about taking some of yesterdays earnings and hitting Hooters. I love their wings, the hot chicks are a by-product.

Must be regional

When I was in Boston there wasn't a Hooters (until I moved back to Boston from N.C. 15 years ago)
Anywho,,,,, 1st time I did go to Hooters was when I came here (Atlanta)

The hot chicks were hot, but the wings ,, eh

Went to one in Denver ,, wings were good,
Went to one in Laurel Maryland,,, wings were better
Went to one in L.A.,,,, wings were ,, eh

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:43:40am

re: #79 dell*nix

A filled body bag should not move. Not if done right.

Ya gotta cut 'em up just right.

82 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:44:15am

re: #79 dell*nix

A filled body bag should not move. Not if done right.

Maybe it was still in the process of the doing!

83 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:48:26am

I was getting tired of watching re-runs

//

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- An adult film performer who tested positive for HIV and caused the porn industry to shut down production as a precaution has been retested and the actor does not have the virus, a porn industry trade group said Saturday.

Production can now resume, said Free Speech Coalition executive director Diane Duke
[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

84 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:53:57am

re: #83 sattv4u2

A false positive or did he get someone else to take his test for him? thought California required condoms for performers.

85 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:55:00am

re: #84 dell*nix

A false positive or did he get someone else to take his test for him? thought California required condoms for performers.

The guy was in Florida. I'm from Florida but no up on my "Requirements before shooting a porno" laws.:)

86 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:56:55am

re: #84 dell*nix

A false positive or did he get someone else to take his test for him? thought California required condoms for performers.

Production has been shut down since Monday in the San Fernando Valley's multi-billion dollar adult entertainment industry, which includes Hustler and Evil Angel's productions. The case was found at an out-of-state clinic that does not report to California health officials, Duke said.

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:59:31am

Did ya see this story? The good news is they didn't kill it. Instead they're putting it in an ecotourist attraction.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

88 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 2:59:37am

re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar

Getting the industry shut down because of your health problems could really, really annoy some very nasty backers. The kind that would make sure your next film was a "snuff" film.

89 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:00:18am

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did ya see this story? The good news is they didn't kill it. Instead they're putting it in an ecotourist attraction.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I was just about to link to that


Elorde said the crocodile killed a water buffalo in an attack witnessed by villagers last month and was also suspected of having attacked a fisherman who went missing in July

90 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:01:39am

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

And people think I'm strange because I don't play in the water. Skydiving is much safer.

91 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:02:09am

re: #89 sattv4u2

I love the NatGeo or Animal Planet shows about the Nile Crocs. Those are some bad mother fuckers. And I've really been getting into the Hippo shows. They rule.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:02:59am

re: #90 dell*nix

And people think I'm strange because I don't play in the water. Skydiving is much safer.

I live in Florida and saw Jaws when I was 9. You do the math.

93 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:03:19am

re: #90 dell*nix

And people think I'm strange because I don't play in the water. Skydiving is much safer.

Or not

Youtube Video
94 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:04:43am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

I live in Florida and saw Jaws when I was 9. You do the math.

I remember when the movie came out people in places like Ohio wouldn't go swimming in lakes

95 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:05:48am

re: #93 sattv4u2

My father told my grandfather he wanted to join the Army to be a paratrooper when he was 17 or so. My grandfather asked him what would happen if the chute didn't open. My dad said, "They'll give you another one". D'oh!!

96 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:06:34am

re: #94 sattv4u2

I remember when the movie came out people in places like Ohio wouldn't go swimming in lakes

We had a pool and I would freak myself out swimming in that at night.

97 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:08:11am

re: #93 sattv4u2

I had a gal richochet off my back one time. Another time a fool dumped his main without clearing above him and of course he had slid under me at that time. DZ safety officer had a word with us.

98 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:09:09am

re: #97 dell*nix

I had a gal richochet off my back one time. Another time a fool dumped his main without clearing above him and of course he had slid under me at that time. DZ safety officer had a word with us.

That happened to me once in a nightclub in Boston!

99 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:11:30am

re: #98 sattv4u2

Your experience was most likely far safer than mine. Except for the possible hubby/lover with the meat cleaver.

100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:19:00am

There is an ad on Craig's List for a diver to clean the bottom of boats. The ad says a dry suit is mandatory because you might be diving in cold water. Um, the water in Florida isn't that cold.

101 dell*nix  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:20:51am

Time to quit for now. Got to go yell at Wells Fargo late over a transaction that was not properly cancelled by the teller. Big ding in the check book. It will be fixed.

102 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:22:02am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is an ad on Craig's List for a diver to clean the bottom of boats. The ad says a dry suit is mandatory because you might be diving in cold water. Um, the water in Florida isn't that cold.

Maybe you have to do it as the boat heads towards Canada

103 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:24:29am

re: #102 sattv4u2

Maybe you have to do it as the boat heads towards Canada

I've actually run across ads that do drug test including nicotine. WTF? If you want to be a non smoking place that's fine. I actually made the Chili's I worked at non smoking in 1993. But this is ridiculous.

104 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:28:00am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is an ad on Craig's List for a diver to clean the bottom of boats. The ad says a dry suit is mandatory because you might be diving in cold water. Um, the water in Florida isn't that cold.

When I was a kid my uncle had a 36 foot cabin cruiser

In the spring, while in dry dock, he would scrape and paint the hull
Me, being the youngest (read,, smallest) family member it was my job to crawl under the lowest points on the hull to paint.

When he put the boat in the water it was immediately noticed that the sonar didn't work

Pulled the boat out of the water and someone (SHOCKA) had painted over it

HEY ,,,, give a 10 year old a bucket of paint and a brush, whattayaexpect !?!?!?!

105 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:31:43am

1st we have the American hikers taken into custody (and later tried, found guilty and jailed) in Iran

Now we have German hikers shot dead in Afghanistan

[Link: www.boston.com...]

And you wonder why I have a treadmill!!

106 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:32:42am

Bye bye, asshole.


U.N. court jails Serbia's ex-army chief Perisic for 27 years

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:33:53am

re: #106 Obdicut

Bye bye, asshole.

U.N. court jails Serbia's ex-army chief Perisic for 27 years

I can't wait to see Drunk Pam's response. Wait, yes i can.

108 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 3:49:47am

Fallout 3 Mod. Talk Thing With Cruk.

Youtube Video

Lol.
Morning!
109 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:01:34am

re: #108 Varek Raith

Fallout 3 Mod. Talk Thing With Cruk.

[Video]
Lol.
Morning!

You need to get out more!

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:05:35am

re: #109 sattv4u2

You need to get out more!

He will when his pot gets low.
///it's the only way I could do video games.:)

111 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:07:29am

re: #109 sattv4u2

You need to get out more!

Reality is vastly overrated.

112 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:08:09am

re: #111 Varek Raith

Reality is vastly overrated.

A necessary evil

113 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:09:10am

re: #112 sattv4u2

A necessary evil

LIES!

114 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:11:17am

re: #111 Varek Raith

Reality is vastly overrated.

"Reality is sort of an approximation."

--S. Wright

115 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:15:29am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

"Reality is sort of an approximation."

--S. Wright

"Reality Bites"

[Link: www.lulu.com...]

116 BongGhazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:19:44am

re: #64 dell*nix

Louis Armstrong and his Hot Five

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Morning, all!

Maybe only tangentially related, but I went to see the soon-to-be 86-years-old B.B. King (and Lucille) this past Sunday up in Bangor.

If you've ever been to one of those nice amphitheaters with the pricey landscaping -- this wasn't that.

Every seat in the place was a folding chair, and if you were unfortunate enough to be seated at the far right of the expensive section, your concert experience was enhanced by the subtle aroma of the nearby row of port-a-potties. This place was small.

Mr. King is no longer agile, but the man still howls like a banshee.

I'd guess there were maybe 2,000+ in attendance; I don't think the promoters had to give out many refunds after Gregg Allman cancelled.

All four bands on the bill got to do at least one encore. It was really nice being part of such an appreciative audience.

117 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:27:29am

re: #116 BongCrodny

Years ago my friends and I went to a bar for a Saturday night out (complete with cab) Pat Travers was playing a bar down the road until the management there fuck stuff up. His crew loaded his gear and came to the bar where we were and asked if they could play. Not the same as seeing B.B. King, but a great surprise. I then got hammered and slept the night away on my friend's trampoline.:)

118 Obdicut  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:28:23am

re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar


That actually sounds very comfy and relaxing.

119 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:29:00am

re: #118 Obdicut

That actually sounds very comfy and relaxing.

Not while his friends 6 year old triplets were playing on it

120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:31:40am

Today is my wife's fiftieth birthday.

She said I couldn't have done better with her present.

Now I can relax and say, "MWAHAHAHAHAHA! MY WIFE'S OLDER THAN ME! SHE TURNED FIFTY FIRST! MY WIFE'S PASSED THE HALF THE CENTURY MARK."

(I've got almost a year of this)

121 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:31:53am

re: #118 Obdicut

That actually sounds very comfy and relaxing.

I have a bad back from a car crash when I was 21. It felt great.

122 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:33:10am

re: #120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, what did you get her? Did you decide to leave the house for the day?
///

123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:34:47am

re: #116 BongCrodny

BB's girlfriend got a tattoo of a "B" on each buttock to show her love for him. When he got home, she dropped her pants and bent over and said, "What do you think?"

He said, "Who in the hell is Bob?!"

124 BongGhazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:34:49am

re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar

Years ago my friends and I went to a bar for a Saturday night out (complete with cab) Pat Travers was playing a bar down the road until the management there fuck stuff up. His crew loaded his gear and came to the bar where we were and asked if they could play. Not the same as seeing B.B. King, but a great surprise. I then got hammered and slept the night away on my friend's trampoline.:)

I've also seen Pat Travers, but where and when is lost forever in the fog of time. Or, more likely, the fog of something else.

But I digress.

125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:35:41am

re: #122 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got her a lovely charm bracelet (Dallas Cowboys stuff onnit).

And, yes. I left town.

126 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:37:41am

re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I got her a lovely charm bracelet (Dallas Cowboys stuff onnit).

And, yes. I left town.

I'll assume she's not a Steelers fan.

127 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:37:58am

re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I got her a lovely charm bracelet (Dallas Cowboys stuff onnit).

And, yes. I left town.

I thought you said you love her!

Why didn't you get one from a , ya know, GOOD team

//
:)

128 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:39:23am

re: #127 sattv4u2

I thought you said you love her!

Why didn't you get one from a , ya know, GOOD team

//
:)

I'm just glad he didn't get her a Romo jersey. He could have been arrested for abuse.:)

129 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:39:54am

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm just glad he didn't get her a Romo jersey. He could have been arrested for abuse.:)

Or bad judgement!

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:40:25am

re: #127 sattv4u2

It's very pretty. I've been wracking my brain for a year about what to get her. Someone posted a pic of it on Facebook and angels sang and stuff when I saw the pic.

She gasped (IN A GOOD WAY, FUCKER!) when she opened it.

131 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:40:35am

((the amended version is better, imho))

132 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:41:59am

re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I got her a lovely charm bracelet (Dallas Cowboys stuff onnit).

And, yes. I left town.

Cowboys?!
My condolences.
/

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:42:38am

re: #132 Varek Raith

Cowboys?!
My condolences.
/

Says the Dolphins fan...
//

134 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:43:28am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

Says the Dolphins fan...
//

That was...
Over a decade ago!
I don't really care for any team.
I'll still watch though.

135 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:44:19am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

Says the Dolphins fan...
//

ouch!

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:45:56am

Every year for Christmas I get Bucs stuff. Makes life easy for my family. I have Bucs lights for a Christmas tree for Pete's sake!!!

137 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:46:28am

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

Every year for Christmas I get Bucs stuff. Makes life easy for my family. I have Bucs lights for a Christmas tree for Pete's sake!!!

At the end of the day do your Bucs off?

138 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:47:12am

re: #137 sattv4u2

At the end of the day do you Bucs off?

What are ya, some kind of bad joke generator???
/
:)

139 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:47:58am

re: #138 Varek Raith

What are ya, some kind of bad joke generator???
/
:)

Is this the first time you've met Satt?
/

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:47:59am

re: #137 sattv4u2

At the end of the day do you Bucs off?

Kid's dressed like a pirate for Halloween.

Lady says, "What a cute pirate! And where are your Buccaneers?"
He says, "Right underneath my buckin' hat, lady."

141 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:48:27am

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

Every year for Christmas I get Bucs stuff. Makes life easy for my family. I have Bucs lights for a Christmas tree for Pete's sake!!!

((btw ,,,, i'm the same way with Red Sox/ Patriots/ Celtics/ Bruins stuff,,, waiting to see if I'll have to add Auburn, Georgia tech or Virginia Tech (that was for you, Veggie) stuff))

142 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:49:12am

re: #138 Varek Raith

What are ya, some kind of bad joke generator???
/
:)

Why yes,, yes I am!

Thanks for noticing!

143 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:51:21am

re: #141 sattv4u2

((btw ,,, i'm the same way with Red Sox/ Patriots/ Celtics/ Bruins stuff,,, waiting to see if I'll have to add Auburn, Georgia tech or Virginia Tech (that was for you, Veggie) stuff))

It's very likely that I could find 'Bama and Auburn condoms here in town.

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:51:43am

re: #142 sattv4u2

Yes I am!

145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:52:28am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Or in something...

146 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 4:55:39am

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes I am!

Remember the Seinfeld episode where they stole a limo ride to MSG thinking they were going to a basketball game and it ended up being a white supremacist group holding a rally and they thought George was the featured speaker? Classic.

147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:05:38am

Off to the land of the floggings!

148 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:05:48am

I spent the whole weekend updating the CSS styles for my website, and now the new styles that I defined for the side and footer navigation bars have attached themselves to the inline links, making them basically unclickable. Here is the site.

149 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:09:56am

re: #148 Alouette

OK, question. On the history of Palestine page it says Rabbi Joesph Schwartz,1850. What does 1850 mean?

150 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:19:57am

re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar

My father told my grandfather he wanted to join the Army to be a paratrooper when he was 17 or so. My grandfather asked him what would happen if the chute didn't open. My dad said, "They'll give you another one". D'oh!!

My father became a paratrooper during the Korean War. The real reason he told me later was that he figured that by the time training was over, the war might be over. Anyway, he says he would have been safer in a foxhole. Just about everytime they had a large jump, somebody would go splat.

151 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:20:27am

re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar

OK, question. On the history of Palestine page it says Rabbi Joesph Schwartz,1850. What does 1850 mean?

1850 is the year this book was written.

152 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:20:37am

Iowa Democrats Make Fun Internet Drinking Game Mocking Tea Party

[Link: guessthatteapartier.com...]

Here is a fun “we just made this into a drinking game” Internet website from the Iowa Democratic Party that asks visitors to read a hilariously krazy quote and guess which nutbag GOP personality said it. It’s slightly harder than it looks! We’ll share some tips after the jump!

First of all, we are professionals, and even some of the “God hates homos” and “science was invented by Hitler” ones are hard to assign correctly because they are repeated so often and nearly verbatim between these outlandish weirdos that it is easy to mix them up. Don’t feel bad if you miss one. Take a shot! Take a shot if you get it right, too! Everyone wins.

via Wonkette.

Hello from windtorn and rainy Scotland! How is everybody today?

153 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:22:22am

re: #152 iceweasel

Hello from windtorn and rainy Scotland

Triple redundancy!?!?!

//

154 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:22:43am

re: #151 Alouette

1850 is the year this book was written.

OK. Wasn't exactly sure. Thanks.

155 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:23:27am

re: #153 sattv4u2

Hello from windtorn and rainy Scotland

Triple redundancy!?!?!

//

hey, it's been nice here lately! Today it really feels like winter on the way though. :(

156 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:23:52am

re: #150 SteveMcG

My dad was drafted after the armistice was signed. He ended up in Oklahoma.

157 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:24:36am

I was in Disney getting directions from a cast member when I noticed his nametag said he was from Stirling, Scotland. I told him that was a damn lie because I could understand him. He fessed up that he was born in Scotland and his parents moved over here when he was a boy.

158 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:24:38am

If you're a gay tourist in Caucasus mountains you better not kiss your partner in the open:

[Link: translate.google.com...]

159 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:25:33am

re: #157 SteveMcG

I was in Disney getting directions from a cast member when I noticed his nametag said he was from Stirling, Scotland. I told him that was a damn lie because I could understand him. He fessed up that he was born in Scotland and his parents moved over here when he was a boy.

Well, it is a small world after all.

160 SteveMcG  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:27:07am

re: #156 Cannadian Club Akbar

My dad was drafted after the armistice was signed. He ended up in Oklahoma.

My dad said his next step (if the war didn't end) would have been OCS! But he said he heard they were losing more lieutenants than privates, probably to snipers.

161 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:28:42am

re: #156 Cannadian Club Akbar

My dad was drafted after the armistice was signed. He ended up in Oklahoma.

He probably wished he was stationed in the DMZ instead!
//

162 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:31:10am

re: #158 Sergey Romanov

If you're a gay tourist in Caucasus mountains you better not kiss your partner in the open:

[Link: translate.google.com...]

The Germans for the benefit of pochli quickly get out of Georgia,
Pochli???

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:35:26am

re: #161 sattv4u2

He probably wished he was stationed in the DMZ instead!
//

A local radio guy went to the Korean border and the little shack where the armistice was signed. You could actually cross the line set up separating North and South but they made you hold hands to keep you from being grabbed. He had cool pics. Both sides have "stare downs" from their guards on the border.

164 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:38:24am

re: #162 sattv4u2

The Germans for the benefit of pochli quickly get out of Georgia,
Pochli???

You don't wanna know!

///

pochli = почли = сочли = decided

165 simoom  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:38:36am

Sheesh... even Talk Points Memo used the Fox version of the Hoffa quote verbatim, no ellipses. From TPM DC:

Hoffa described the recent Republican-led assaults on collective bargaining rights as a "war on workers" and described Obama as union workers' general who will lead them to victory in 2012 over the Tea Party and like-minded allies.

"President Obama, this is your army," Hoffa said. "We are ready to march. Let's take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong."

Actual quote with the part TPM dropped bolded:

"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. And, President Obama we want one thing – jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. That’s what we’re going to tell him. When he sees what we’re doing here he will be inspired. But he needs help. And, you know what. Everybody here’s gotta vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let’s take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong."

Watch out for that terrifying army of job seekers wielding their votes! ///

166 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:38:38am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

they made you hold hands to keep you from being grabbed.

Alone ,, at night ,,,in the cold,,, along the 38th parallel

Bet there was a LOT of "holding hands" and "grabbing" going on!!

NTTAWWT!!!

/

167 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:39:18am

re: #164 Sergey Romanov

You don't wanna know!

///

pochli = почли = сочли = decided

thanks

168 dragonfire1981  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:39:51am

Beautiful day here in the South. At least Lee left some nice weather behind.

169 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:41:15am

re: #168 dragonfire1981

Beautiful day here in the South. At least Lee left some nice weather behind.

We have warnings at the beaches here warning of undertow. Undertow is also a great TOOL album.

170 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:41:27am

re: #168 dragonfire1981

Beautiful day here in the South. At least Lee left some nice weather behind.

Overcast, drizzly and chilly (for the beginning of Sept) in Atlanta

171 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:44:28am

Any CSS experts aboard?

172 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:45:55am

The wind here just blew in my kitchen window, knocking a pan to the floor and snapping the handle right off.

Oh joy.

173 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:50:33am

re: #172 iceweasel

The wind here just blew in my kitchen window, knocking a pan to the floor and snapping the handle right off.

Oh joy.

Complaining about Scottish weather?
Lol.
///
:)

174 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:51:54am

re: #173 Varek Raith

Complaining about Scottish weather?
Lol.
///
:)

no,, complaining about cheap cookwear!

175 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:52:10am

re: #173 Varek Raith

Complaining about Scottish weather?
Lol.
///
:)

Dude, she's lying. She smacked Jimmah with the pot and broke the handle and is now pissed because she has nothing else to hit him with.:)

176 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:57:58am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

A local radio guy went to the Korean border and the little shack where the armistice was signed. You could actually cross the line set up separating North and South but they made you hold hands to keep you from being grabbed. He had cool pics. Both sides have "stare downs" from their guards on the border.

They were still doing that in the 80's, minus the hand-holding. Wife and two older kids went around the table, so I guess they can claim Nork for their Century Club. I got to be a civilian staff wienie 'MP' on a DMZ daylight patrol, with an armband and kevlar over my suit.

177 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 5:59:49am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

They were still doing that in the 80's, minus the hand-holding. Wife and two older kids went around the table, so I guess they can claim Nork for their Century Club. I got to be a civilian staff wienie 'MP' on a DMZ daylight patrol, with an armband and kevlar over my suit.

I'd like to go just to go. But I'd prolly get drunk and start some kind of international incident.
///

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:01:18am

North Korea is practically Disney!!!!
[Link: www.boston.com...]

179 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:01:48am

On a random note, my cat keeps farting.

180 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:02:00am

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'd like to go just to go. But I'd prolly get drunk and start some kind of international incident.
///

Happened all the time. Two NCOs got drunk at the most forward club, and went to clear the DMZ of 'infiltrators'. One lost his leg to a mine.

181 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:03:28am

re: #173 Varek Raith

Complaining about Scottish weather?
Lol.
///
:)

I know. Well, at least my cat isn't farting. Yet.

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:03:42am

re: #180 Decatur Deb

Happened all the time. Two NCOs got drunk at the most forward club, and went to clear the DMZ of 'infiltrators'. One lost his leg to a mine.

Holy crap!!

183 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:03:53am

Bzzzzt.

184 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:04:28am

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'd like to go just to go. But I'd prolly get drunk and start some kind of international incident.
///

Just get drunk and go to IHOP!

185 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:04:54am

re: #180 Decatur Deb

Happened all the time. Two NCOs got drunk at the most forward club, and went to clear the DMZ of 'infiltrators'. One lost his leg to a mine.

I don't know about now but it used to be a real dangerous place. There was a lot of crazy stuff on that border all the way through the 80's.

186 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:05:43am

re: #180 Decatur Deb

Happened all the time. Two NCOs got drunk at the most forward club, and went to clear the DMZ of 'infiltrators'. One lost his leg to a mine.

Damn.

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:05:47am

re: #184 sattv4u2

Just get drunk and go to IHOP!

You call these pancakes?!?!? They're practically crepes!!!

188 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:08:19am

Well, a poll was done in Egypt. By Al-Ahram Center for Strategic Studies.

Sandmonkey Mahmoud Salem
Country model they aspire for: 41.4% saudi, 10% USA, 10% China, 9% Turkey, 9% Japan, 5% UAE & other western countries.

189 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:09:40am

"Lets Take These Sons of Bitches Out"
By David Weigel
Posted Tuesday, Sep. 6, 2011, at 8:01 AM EDT

Talking about kicking your political enemy's ass is uncivil, but it's as old as politics. Can we skip this little drama where conservatives pretend that Hoffa was ordering goon squads into action to pull Republican congressmen out of their homes and break their knees? It's going to be followed, eventually, by some talk radio host sharing a stage with a candidate* and saying something about ass-kicking or showing-those-bastards or what have you. If we're going to do this, can we maybe set up a voucher system, where progressives and conservatives can trade the right to insult one another?

*I suppose the argument is that there's no equivilent to saying this next to the president of all the people. I don't much buy into the cult of the presidency, though, and on the other six days of the week, the president's opponents are perfectly comfortable saying he's not representing them.

To this I would add that I hope that Obama annihilates his Repulican opponent next November.

"OMG! He said annihilates!"

190 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:09:43am

re: #183 Gus 802

Bzzzt.

No answer
Please try again later

191 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:11:02am

re: #188 ProLifeLiberal

I think it is safe to say off of this that around 35-40% of Egyptians are Salafi/Wahabist.

192 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:11:27am

Another day in the land of dull weather. Dull. Did I say dull?

193 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:12:02am

Image: rage-comics-seriously-jesus.jpg

194 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:12:29am

re: #192 Gus 802

Another day in the land of dull weather. Dull. Did I say dull?

Hey you! good to see you. What's up, Comrade Gus?

195 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:12:58am

re: #193 Varek Raith

Heh.

196 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:14:03am

re: #194 iceweasel

Hey you! good to see you. What's up, Comrade Gus?

Not much. Got a couple of extra days to wait for something. Sitting around. Going to do some laundry. The usual boring shit. How's things besides the weather over there?

197 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:14:05am

re: #191 ProLifeLiberal

I think it is safe to say off of this that around 35-40% of Egyptians are Salafi/Wahabist.

What is the practical conclusion from that?

198 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:17:02am

re: #197 Sergey Romanov

Egypt's going to be exceedingly hard to keep in line (and sane) until my generation comes up to power. But that will be decades.

199 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:17:09am

re: #196 Gus 802

Not much. Got a couple of extra days to wait for something. Sitting around. Going to do some laundry. The usual boring shit. How's things besides the weather over there?

Pretty good. Jimmah's dad is coming to visit tomorrow for a few days, which means a lot of pub time and a lot of cooking. Otherwise, the usual. Sun's out here now.

200 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:18:29am

re: #198 ProLifeLiberal

Egypt's going to be exceedingly hard to keep in line (and sane) until my generation comes up to power. But that will be decades.

I like your optimism, but I recall 35 + years ago saying the same thing about MY generation!

{sigh}

201 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:19:38am

re: #198 ProLifeLiberal

I hope we won't long for the "good old days" of Mubarak.

202 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:19:58am

re: #200 sattv4u2

Well, your generation elected Reagan.

Nothing good was gonna happen, to be blunt.

203 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:20:12am

re: #199 iceweasel

Pretty good. Jimmah's dad is coming to visit tomorrow for a few days, which means a lot of pub time and a lot of cooking. Otherwise, the usual. Sun's out here now.

Sounds like fun. Especially if the people involved don't get weird with each other if you know what I mean -- wink-wink, nudge-nudge.

204 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:22:58am

re: #203 Gus 802

Sounds like fun. Especially of the people involved don't get weird with each other if you know what I mean -- wink-wink, nudge-nudge.

Say no more! /

205 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:23:18am

You ever drive in a car with someone you know and you're thinking to yourself "man this guy drives like a moron" (but you keep your mouth shut like a normal person) and then a week later you're driving and that same guy as your passenger and he just won't stop complaining about how you're driving?

206 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:24:12am

re: #148 Alouette

I spent the whole weekend updating the CSS styles for my website, and now the new styles that I defined for the side and footer navigation bars have attached themselves to the inline links, making them basically unclickable. Here is the site.

Is there a reason you used "span" tags to set off blocks of content, rather than divs? I've always thought span tags were meant for inline content (e.g. highlighting words in a paragraph) as opposed to blocks.

As for the issue at hand, perhaps it has to do with the "display:block" attribute you have on your sidemenu links (i.e. they're getting attached to all your other links as well). Try adding "display:inline" to the a:hover and a:active aspects of your other links (i.e. those in the "main" class).

207 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:24:43am

re: #205 Gus 802

You ever drive in a car with someone you know and you're thinking to yourself "man this guy drives like a moron" (but you keep your mouth shut like a normal person) and then a week later you're driving and that same guy as your passenger and he just won't stop complaining about how you're driving?

did they do that thing where they cling to the passenger-side dashboard and stamp their feet like they're braking?

No, no that's never happened to me. /

208 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:25:12am

New rule! Don't use your iPhone as a handheld GPS navigator while driving. And don't expect your passenger to know how to use your iPhone TOY.

209 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:26:34am

re: #207 iceweasel

did they do that thing where they cling to the passenger-side dashboard and stamp their feet like they're braking?

No, no that's never happened to me. /

Wasn't that bad this time. My mom did that once back in 1990. So I drove over some of the hills even faster. ;) Nah. This last time was chock full of running commentary with the typical passive-aggressive schtick.

210 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:26:54am

re: #208 Gus 802

New rule! Don't use your iPhone as a handheld GPS navigator while driving. And don't expect your passenger to know how to use your iPhone TOY.

Or you could just know where you're going. Just sayin'.

211 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:27:04am

re: #202 ProLifeLiberal

Well, your generation elected Reagan.

Nothing good was gonna happen, to be blunt.

It also elected Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter

You get the good with the bad in every generation

(but nice try!!)

212 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:27:33am

re: #209 Gus 802

Wasn't that bad this time. My mom did that once back in 1990. So I drove over some of the hills even faster. ;) Nah. This last time was chock full of running commentary with the typical passive-aggressive schtick.

Passive-aggressiveness, always a pleasure.

213 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:28:31am

re: #205 Gus 802

You ever drive in a car with someone you know and you're thinking to yourself "man this guy drives like a moron" (but you keep your mouth shut like a normal person) and then a week later you're driving and that same guy as your passenger and he just won't stop complaining about how you're driving?

I see you know my wife!

214 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:28:50am

re: #210 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or you could just know where you're going. Just sayin'.

I either use a map or write down the direction on a piece of paper. Paper and pencil does the trick rather nicely. And you don't have to fuck with some stupid electronic toy while you're driving.

215 ProGunLiberal  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:29:46am

re: #211 sattv4u2

Reagan is ideologically (and directly, in part) responsible for the nation being in the ditch (financially and otherwise).

The morons who first voted for him in 1980 are the Tea Partiers now.

216 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:30:06am

re: #212 iceweasel

Passive-aggressiveness, always a pleasure.

More aggressive than passive.

Blah, blah, blah. You can take the person out of New Jersey but you can't take the New Jersey out of the person.

217 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:31:46am

re: #216 Gus 802

More aggressive than passive.

Blah, blah, blah. You can take the person out of New Jersey but you can't take the New Jersey out of the person.

Jersey drivers!!

/

218 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:32:56am

re: #206 publicityStunted

Is there a reason you used "span" tags to set off blocks of content, rather than divs? I've always thought span tags were meant for inline content (e.g. highlighting words in a paragraph) as opposed to blocks.

As for the issue at hand, perhaps it has to do with the "display:block" attribute you have on your sidemenu links (i.e. they're getting attached to all your other links as well). Try adding "display:inline" to the a:hover and a:active aspects of your other links (i.e. those in the "main" class).

OK, I will try that. I don't have access to my website from here. I thought using the "Span" tag would keep those attributes within the span, but it's overriding the links in the main class. That's Teh Suck because I want to make it easy for people to click over to the Zionist Mall!

219 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:35:53am

re: #217 iceweasel

Jersey drivers!!

/

Part of growing up means keeping one's mouth shut about the driving when you're a passenger in someone's car. Unless of course they're a stark raving maniac. Then you just ask them to stop the car so you can get out and walk. ;)

220 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:37:54am

Does it feel like Monday to you?

I does to me.

Morning all.

221 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:39:10am

re: #215 ProLifeLiberal

Reagan is ideologically (and directly, in part) responsible for the nation being in the ditch (financially and otherwise).

The morons who first voted for him in 1980 are the Tea Partiers now.

It can be argued (correctly) that it dates back further

How about Johnsons massive expansion of both military (remember Ikes warning) and domestic programs

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:40:36am

I hate Mondays.

223 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:41:28am

re: #222 ggt

I hate Mondays.

They always speak highly of you!

224 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:41:53am

re: #223 sattv4u2

They always speak highly of you!

No they don't.

225 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:43:11am

And on that note, for some unknown reason, the boss believes he should get some work out of me now!

(you would think after me being here 12 years now he would have a clue!!)
//

226 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:43:16am

49°F with 90% humidity. Brrrrr.

This afternoon we're supposed to hit 96. Which means around 100 or more where I'm at.

Cold. Hot. Cold. Hot. Cold. Hot...

227 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:43:51am

re: #226 Gus 802

49°F with 90% humidity. Brrr.

This afternoon we're supposed to hit 96. Which means around 100 or more where I'm at.

Cold. Hot. Cold. Hot. Cold. Hot...

That's not good. What's it like in Denver?

228 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:44:49am

re: #226 Gus 802

49°F with 90% humidity. Brrr.

This afternoon we're supposed to hit 96. Which means around 100 or more where I'm at.

Cold. Hot. Cold. Hot. Cold. Hot...

So far this morning. Rain. Then wind. Now, more rain and wind gust near 60mph. So much for going for a walk.

229 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:45:41am

Fox and Hounds and Trains?

230 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:46:01am

re: #227 iceweasel

That's not good. What's it like in Denver?

re: #227 iceweasel

That's not good. What's it like in Denver?

Let's see... It's saying 61 °F with 34% humidity and a high of around 79. Gets colder there in Winter. Obviously. But the late Summer weather there is much nicer than here.

231 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:46:15am

It's sunny and mild in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland. Had to put a blanket on the bed last night.

232 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:46:48am

re: #220 ggt

Does it feel like Monday to you?

I does to me.

Morning all.

It's Tuesday. :)

233 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:47:11am

re: #228 Cannadian Club Akbar

So far this morning. Rain. Then wind. Now, more rain and wind gust near 60mph. So much for going for a walk.

You on a sail boat?

//

234 sattv4u2  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:47:28am

re: #231 ggt

It's sunny and mild in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland. Had to put a blanket on the bed last night.

Wouldn't it have been more efficient to put the blanket on you and let the bed fend for itself?

235 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:47:55am

re: #234 sattv4u2

Wouldn't it have been more efficient to put the blanket on you and let the bed fend for itself?

Go sit in the corner.
/

236 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:48:30am

re: #234 sattv4u2

Wouldn't it have been more efficient to put the blanket on you and let the bed fend for itself?

Well, I had a heating pad. Felt the bed deserved at least a blanket.

237 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:48:37am

Good morning....rain, rain, rain all week here in Virginia.

238 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:48:47am

It's pouring and some poor kid just went by on a bike. I guess that's punishment for being late to skool.

239 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:49:11am

re: #218 Alouette

OK, I will try that. I don't have access to my website from here. I thought using the "Span" tag would keep those attributes within the span, but it's overriding the links in the main class. That's Teh Suck because I want to make it easy for people to click over to the Zionist Mall!

Unfortunately, the span tag won't help with that - it's more for applying a style to words/items within a larger block. For keeping styles restricted to certain content blocks, divs with their own id or class are usually better.

Also, CSS that appears further down in your stylesheet can override styles set further up, if the earlier styles don't have an attribute defined but the later ones do. Do you ever use Firefox with the Firebug plugin? It's a great way to interactively debug your site within the browser, as it lets you see what CSS is being applied where, and disable/re-enable items at will.

The "display:inline" thing I suggested earlier didn't seem to work when I tested it just now, but when I disable the display:block attribute in the following code blocks:

SPAN.sidemenu A:hover, A:active {
background-color: #666666;
color: #00FFFF;
display: block;
}

SPAN.footermenu A:hover, A:active {
background-color: #666666;
color: #00FFFF;
display: block;
}

...your inline links work fine.

240 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:50:08am

Hunting deer with dogs?

How come I never heard of such a thing.

I thought you had to sit in a blind and not move for hours.

241 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:51:28am

re: #240 ggt

Hunting deer with dogs?

How come I never heard of such a thing.

I thought you had to sit in a blind and not move for hours.

Maybe they throw the dogs at the deer.

242 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:52:55am

re: #240 ggt

Hunting deer with dogs?

How come I never heard of such a thing.

I thought you had to sit in a blind and not move for hours.

Oh look. Two assholes.

243 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:52:55am

Locked-In Syndrome.

Sounds totally horrible.

244 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:54:17am

re: #242 Gus 802

Oh look. Two assholes.

I agree they look to be assholes.

I don't understand the law, but then again, I don't have to. I don't live in the UK.

245 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:54:36am

re: #242 Gus 802

Oh look. Two assholes.

We should send these macho hunters to Jurassic Park.
;)

246 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:55:00am

re: #245 Varek Raith

We should send these macho hunters to Jurassic Park.
;)

with the Staghounds?

247 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:55:01am

re: #239 publicityStunted

The "display:inline" thing I suggested earlier didn't seem to work when I tested it just now, but when I disable the display:block attribute in the following code blocks:

Wait, what! You tested stuff on my server? Or you copied it to your own server?

248 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:56:13am

re: #244 ggt

I agree they look to be assholes.

I don't understand the law, but then again, I don't have to. I don't live in the UK.

I understand the law completely and I don't live in the UK. It's animal abuse for the dogs and the deer. Hope they enjoyed their time in prison.

249 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:56:13am

re: #245 Varek Raith

We should send these macho hunters to Jurassic Park.
;)

I think it was Richard Belzer who said for hunting to be a sport you should have to hunt nekkid with the mating scent of the animal you're hunting wiped all over you.

250 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:56:24am

re: #246 ggt

with the Staghounds?

No.
The dogs did nothing wrong.
:)

251 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:56:53am

Beware of Killer Bovine!

252 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:58:16am

More assholes.

Lion attack hunting safari Africa

Youtube Video

Too bad the lion didn't "take 'em out."

253 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:59:07am

re: #247 Alouette

Wait, what! You tested stuff on my server? Or you copied it to your own server?

Neither :) I used Firefox with the Firebug plugin. It lets you test/debug any website you have loaded in your browser (not all aspects of it, of course, just things that execute at the browser level like JavaScript and CSS).

254 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:59:18am

re: #250 Varek Raith

No.
The dogs did nothing wrong.
:)

I think they dogs might enjoy it.

255 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 6:59:46am

re: #248 Gus 802

I understand the law completely and I don't live in the UK. It's animal abuse for the dogs and the deer. Hope they enjoyed their time in prison.

Why is it abuse for the dogs?

My dogs love to be on the hunt.

256 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:00:53am

re: #252 Gus 802

Good for the Lion. I wish he could have gotten a mouthful. I always root for the animals.

257 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:01:35am

Can ewe hunt Lupine with dogs in France?

258 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:01:40am

re: #255 ggt

Why is it abuse for the dogs?

My dogs love to be on the hunt.

You would support this kind of hunting? Seriously? Using a pack of dogs to chase down deer? Not knowing if the deer are actually killed all the time and leaving maimed and injured deer in the wild lands? What about the possibility of the deer attacking one of the dogs. It's wrong. Dead wrong and I'd rather see a deer shot with a rifle and get a clean kill.

259 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:03:22am

re: #258 Gus 802

You would support this kind of hunting? Seriously? Using a pack of dogs to chase down deer? No knowing if the deer are actually killed all the time and leaving maimed and injured deer in the wild lands? What about the possibility of the deer attacking one of the dogs. It's wrong. Dead wrong and I'd rather see a deer shot with a rifle and get a clean kill.

I don't understand the particulars of the sport in England. You stated it was abuse for the dogs?

I don't understand why you think the dogs are being abused by this type of hunting. I'd think the dogs, themselves, would love it.

I know in this country, dogs aren't used and deer hunting is controlled.

260 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:03:41am

re: #258 Gus 802

You would support this kind of hunting? Seriously? Using a pack of dogs to chase down deer? No knowing if the deer are actually killed all the time and leaving maimed and injured deer in the wild lands? What about the possibility of the deer attacking one of the dogs. It's wrong. Dead wrong and I'd rather see a deer shot with a rifle and get a clean kill.

It's a pretty disgusting and inhumane way for the deer to die, too, no matter how fast the dogs are it's got to be horrible.

261 Talking Point Detective  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:04:10am

So simply deceptively editing a video isn't enough - Fox News needs to double-down.

DNC Chair Dodges Questions on Hoffa


As Congress waits to hear President Obama's jobs plan later this week, the head of the Democratic National Committee dodged questions about labor union leader Jimmy Hoffa's contentious remarks about the Tea Party.

DNC chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz tried to deflect specific questions about Hoffa's comments, in which he told a crowd in Detroit that America faced "a war on workers, you see it everywhere - it is the Tea Party," and urged the crowd to "take these son-of-a-bitches out." Hoffa made the comments while introducing President Obama.

Read more: [Link: politics.blogs.foxnews.com...]

262 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:04:13am

re: #258 Gus 802

You would support this kind of hunting? Seriously? Using a pack of dogs to chase down deer? No knowing if the deer are actually killed all the time and leaving maimed and injured deer in the wild lands? What about the possibility of the deer attacking one of the dogs. It's wrong. Dead wrong and I'd rather see a deer shot with a rifle and get a clean kill.

My Dad felt the same way, he hated bow and arrow hunters.

263 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:04:47am

re: #258 Gus 802

You would support this kind of hunting? Seriously? Using a pack of dogs to chase down deer? No knowing if the deer are actually killed all the time and leaving maimed and injured deer in the wild lands? What about the possibility of the deer attacking one of the dogs. It's wrong. Dead wrong and I'd rather see a deer shot with a rifle and get a clean kill.

One of the best "deer dogs" we had growing up was this little terrier mix one of the ranchers we hunted with had. Little bastard would head into any thicket (and was small enough to do so) and yap away to flush out the deer in hiding. We got some nice bucks because of that little dog.

264 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:05:01am

re: #261 Talking Point Detective

So simply deceptively editing a video isn't enough - Fox News needs to double-down.

Read more: [Link: politics.blogs.foxnews.com...]

I think Hoffa opened himself up to this. I don't understand why, but I guess he had good reason. Maybe he wanted the press.

265 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:05:43am

re: #260 iceweasel

It's a pretty disgusting and inhumane way for the deer to die, too, no matter how fast the dogs are it's got to be horrible.

Wait a minute, the dogs do the killing?

I thought they just flushed the deer so the hunter could get a clean shot?

266 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:05:56am

re: #263 darthstar

One of the best "deer dogs" we had growing up was this little terrier mix one of the ranchers we hunted with had. Little bastard would head into any thicket (and was small enough to do so) and yap away to flush out the deer in hiding. We got some nice bucks because of that little dog.

Poor bucks. They deserved to live and not get murdered.

267 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:07:31am

re: #260 iceweasel

It's a pretty disgusting and inhumane way for the deer to die, too, no matter how fast the dogs are it's got to be horrible.

Hey. Go to Gmail so we can talk? Getting a little deep in here.

268 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:07:49am

re: #265 ggt

Wait a minute, the dogs do the killing?

I thought they just flushed the deer so the hunter could get a clean shot?

English hunting is done with hounds that usually corner, then shred, a fox. In the US, dogs aren't used as weapons in hunting - at least not normally.

269 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:07:55am

re: #265 ggt

Wait a minute, the dogs do the killing?

I thought they just flushed the deer so the hunter could get a clean shot?

sounds like that would leave a very messy carcass to transport to the butcher.

270 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:08:54am

re: #267 Gus 802

Hey. Go to Gmail so we can talk? Getting a little deep in here.

I'm already there!

271 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:08:55am

re: #268 darthstar

English hunting is done with hounds that usually corner, then shred, a fox. In the US, dogs aren't used as weapons in hunting - at least not normally.

So, there is no fox left to eat or make into a coat?

That's stupid.

272 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:09:56am

re: #265 ggt

Wait a minute, the dogs do the killing?

I thought they just flushed the deer so the hunter could get a clean shot?

What darthstar said. The guys in the UK were using the hounds to kill the deer, or at least weren't calling them off-- they were using them for more than flushing the deer.

273 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:10:28am

I hear banjo music.

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:11:39am

I don't hunt deer because I don't eat deer, but later I will be hunting at the store for BLT's and tater tot casserole.:)

275 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:12:01am

re: #272 iceweasel

What darthstar said. The guys in the UK were using the hounds to kill the deer, or at least weren't calling them off-- they were using them for more than flushing the deer.

Ok, that seems wrong. Why would you want the dog to know what it is like to kill? --they could turn on humans then.

MIght as well set up an ampitheatre and send in some gladiators.

276 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:12:42am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't hunt deer because I don't eat deer, but later I will be hunting at the store for BLT's and tater tot casserole.:)

That sounds disgusting.

Couldn't you russle up some Chocolate Cake?

277 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:14:27am

So, in the UK, do hunters have to get a license and limit their kills to what will control the herd population for the season?

278 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:16:40am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't hunt deer because I don't eat deer, but later I will be hunting at the store for BLT's and tater tot casserole.:)

Tater tot casseroles can kill you.

279 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:17:06am

re: #278 darthstar

Tater tot casseroles can kill you.

Not if you add lots of Garlic.

:)

281 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:20:41am

Where's Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin?

282 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:21:25am

re: #281 Gus 802

Quiet, you. Talk to me on gchat. :)

283 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:22:11am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. You know your campaign is toast when your own political consultants are jumping ship saying that you're a third-rate candidate.

Your career-warning light is now flashing in the red Rep. Bachmann.

284 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:24:57am

Hunting is not a sport.

285 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:25:34am

re: #284 Gus 802

Hunting is not a sport.

It's a blood sport.

286 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:25:48am

re: #283 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. You know your campaign is toast when your own political consultants are jumping ship saying that you're a third-rate candidate.

Your career-warning light is now flashing in the red Rep. Bachmann.

Bachmann's campaign is, and always has been, about the inevitable and very public melt-down. Having a campaign manager quit on the day of a televised debate is an indication that it may be very close at hand.

287 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:26:24am

re: #284 Gus 802

Hunting is not a sport.

for everybody.

288 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:26:56am

re: #284 Gus 802

Only if the animals have guns and fire back.

289 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:27:02am

re: #287 darthstar

for everybody.

Yeah. Like for Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent.

290 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:27:42am

re: #253 publicityStunted

Thanks! I will download that.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:27:55am

re: #286 darthstar

Bachmann's campaign is, and always has been, about the inevitable and very public melt-down. Having a campaign manager quit on the day of a televised debate is an indication that it may be very close at hand.

"I have decided it is in my best interest to continue serving my constituents blah, blah, blah...."

292 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:28:18am

I don't have a problem if you're hunting and you plan on using your catch for food. Different story if you're doing it to put a trophy up in some man-cave.

293 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:28:29am

Driving in to work today, all the signs on the highway were warning about possible smoke on the roads. What fun.

294 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:28:55am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can't wait to see Drunk Pam's response. Wait, yes i can.

Summary:

UN COURTS BOW TO ISLAM!!1 THEY SENTENCE A HONORABLE SERB GENERAL TO PRISON FOR DEFENDING HIS NATION FROM SHARIA!!!11

295 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:28:55am

re: #289 Gus 802

Yeah. Like for Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent.

They shoot assault rifles for cameras. They're not outdoorsmen. Never confuse Sarah Palin or Ted Nugent with hunters.

296 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:29:12am

Yeah. Nothing like being an overweight obese American and killing deer to stuff ones already fat face with venison while eating your beef BBQ. God bless Murica!

297 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:29:48am

Alrighty. I'm gonna get a long overdue haircut. When I get back I will still look like your computer monitor.
/

298 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:30:07am

Think the media will cover this as much as Hoffa's comments? 9_9

Exclusive Audio: Inside the Koch Brothers' Secret Seminar

"We have Saddam Hussein," declared billionaire industrialist Charles Koch, apparently referring to President Barack Obama as he welcomed hundreds of wealthy guests to the latest of the secret fundraising and strategy seminars he and his brother host twice a year. The 2012 elections, he warned, will be "the mother of all wars."

How about a 9/11 Truther in the mix?

Charles [Koch] spoke again the next evening, following a keynote speech by Fox News host and retired New Jersey Superior Court Judge Andrew P. Napolitano. The judge didn't stray far from his usual libertarian fare; he was met with hardy approval when he declared that the Second Amendment was created to ensure "the right to shoot at the government if it is taken over by tyrants."

I'm going to page this. It must be seen.

299 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:30:14am

I have to get going.

Have a great not-Monday all!

300 darthstar  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:30:46am

Time to go run my dogs...on the beach...away from deer and cows.

301 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:30:51am

re: #292 lawhawk

I don't have a problem if you're hunting and you plan on using your catch for food. Different story if you're doing it to put a trophy up in some man-cave.

I think certain forms of hunting are barbaric, like using hounds or a bow and arrow.

302 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:31:24am

re: #300 darthstar

Time to go run my dogs...on the beach...away from deer and cows.

USA! USA! USA! USA!

303 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:31:39am

re: #264 ggt

I think Hoffa opened himself up to this. I don't understand why, but I guess he had good reason. Maybe he wanted the press.

In that one regard, James P. Hoffa is like his father: unafraid to draw hostility if he thinks it will advance his cause. Like he said, "eyes on the prize". A key part of that focus on your goals is not to get too wrapped up in PR matters, but instead to see PR as a means to an end.

304 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:32:18am

re: #298 publicityStunted

Fool trying to take "America back" with second amendment remedies.
VS
This.

305 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:32:51am

re: #304 Varek Raith

Fool trying to take "America back" with second amendment remedies.
VS
This.

GUNS! GUNS! GUNS! GUNS!

306 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:33:01am

re: #289 Gus 802

Yeah. Like for Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent.

And John Kerry. Let's not forget Kerry's big "Hunters, I'm just like you." goose hunt in the fall of 2004.

307 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:34:20am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

And John Kerry. Let's not forget Kerry's big "Hunters, I'm just like you." goose hunt in the fall of 2004.

I never got that.
I could not care less whether someone hunts or not.

308 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:34:35am

re: #293 Lidane

Driving in to work today, all the signs on the highway were warning about possible smoke on the roads. What fun.

Roads? Where we're going... we don't need roads (well, they may well be back underwater in North/Central NJ after the remnants of Lee get done in the next couple of days).

309 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:35:35am

re: #214 Gus 802

I either use a map or write down the direction on a piece of paper. Paper and pencil does the trick rather nicely. And you don't have to fuck with some stupid electronic toy while you're driving.

I'm certain Apple has a car dock sort of like the one I use for my droid, only 2x as expensive.

310 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:36:06am

re: #307 Varek Raith

I never got that.
I could not care less whether someone hunts or not.

Hunting is like religion. They should keep it to themselves.

311 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:38:41am

re: #307 Varek Raith

I never got that.
I could not care less whether someone hunts or not.

Kerry was trying to get hunters in the Midwest to identify with him. He wanted to get them to believe he wasn't going to try to take their guns away.

The tactic didn't work, in large part because pro-gun organizations had already rolled out an aggressive counter-campaign. It's center piece was a poodle in a hunting vest with the caption "That dog won't hunt." It proved effective at painting Kerry as an effete elitist, and ensured his outreach went nowhere.

312 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:38:43am

More assholes.

BANNED: The Cruel Ward Union Hunt

Youtube Video
313 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:41:06am

re: #310 Gus 802

Hunting is like religion. They should keep it to themselves.

Given the need to regulate hunting*, its not the same thing. Politics inevitably enters into hunting in a way it does not for religion.

*: This need is generally accepted by hunters, even by Sarah Palin. The "tragedy of the commons" that befell the Passenger Pigeon is not something anyone wants repeated.

316 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:44:47am

re: #284 Gus 802

Hunting is not a sport.

Lets see you put that on a bumper sticker once you get back to CO.//

317 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:45:16am

re: #315 Gus 802

The question is not, Can they reason? nor Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?

Jeremy Bentham (1748 - 1832)

318 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:45:31am

re: #316 RogueOne

Lets see you put that on a bumper sticker once you get back to CO.//

Am I supposed to be afraid of hunters?

319 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:46:44am

re: #315 Gus 802

Cruelty to animals is as if man did not love God - Aftermath of deer hunting season

[Video]

Overdone appeal to emotion. One cannot allow oneself to be swayed by scenes of death in this case. The deer in question would have to be killed anyways to keep their population in check.

It does not matter if a deer if killed by the teeth of a coyote or the arrows of a human. The reality is the same: The predator kills its prey.

321 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:49:22am

re: #318 Gus 802

Am I supposed to be afraid of hunters?

No, but I'd keep a couple spare tires in your trunk. You're moving back into the heart of huntin' country. People around here take trips out there (and NE) to shoot your animals.

322 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:50:30am

re: #307 Varek Raith

I never got that.
I could not care less whether someone hunts or not.

Because it's a big deal to the God & Country types in the red states.

Here in Texas, hunting is damn near a rite of passage. Well, at least it was in my family. It's pretty much a given that you're going to learn how to shoot deer or rabbits or whatever, and you're going to go fishing at some point in your life. I never got into it because there's no reason short of a major emergency for me to be awake at 4am on a weekend.

323 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:50:59am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

Overdone appeal to emotion. One cannot allow oneself to be swayed by scenes of death in this case. The deer in question would have to be killed anyways to keep their population in check.

It does not matter if a deer if killed by the teeth of a coyote or the arrows of a human. The reality is the same: The predator kills its prey.

Whatever.

324 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:51:11am

re: #321 RogueOne

No, but I'd keep a couple spare tires in your trunk. You're moving back into the heart of huntin' country. People around here take trips out there (and NE) to shoot your animals.

Whatever.

325 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:52:06am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

Overdone appeal to emotion. One cannot allow oneself to be swayed by scenes of death in this case. The deer in question would have to be killed anyways to keep their population in check.

It does not matter if a deer if killed by the teeth of a coyote or the arrows of a human. The reality is the same: The predator kills its prey.

We've already killed off all their predators, there isn't anyone to keep the population down other than hunters. In IN you can kill almost a dozen deer a year when you add up all the seasons. They're even having shoots in state parks where the meat all goes to shelters, Win-win.

326 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:52:31am

Here comes the NRA hunting propaganda.

327 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:53:24am

re: #323 Gus 802

Whatever.

Gus, I am always civil and decent to you. I don't dismiss your arguments with "whatever" and thus I take it badly when you do that to me.

328 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:55:06am

re: #325 RogueOne

We've already killed off all their predators, there isn't anyone to keep the population down other than hunters. In IN you can kill almost a dozen deer a year when you add up all the seasons. They're even having shoots in state parks where the meat all goes to shelters, Win-win.

Up here in Chicagoland, the deer got so numerous the predators reintroduced themselves in the form of coyotes. The problem is that coyotes and wolves are very problematic in populated areas.

329 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:58:11am

re: #325 RogueOne

We've already killed off all their predators, there isn't anyone to keep the population down other than hunters.

That's true here as well. I'm almost sure that the counties around here are paying hunters to either thin the deer herds or trap them and move them to ranches and game preserves. Same goes for wild boar.

Don't quote me on that, though. I need to confirm it.

330 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:58:21am

re: #326 Gus 802

Here comes the NRA hunting propaganda.

I'm not in the NRA and I don't hunt but that doesn't change the reality that we've screwed up the natural order by killing all the predators. The IN DNR are trying to reduce the deer population by 25%:

Major reduction of deer population proposed
[Link: heraldbulletin.com...]

Anyone who has ever been inside a beef/pork/chicken processing plant know the deer have it a lot better.

332 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:58:38am

Hunting is a difficult policy area since there is a very real need for pest control coupled with a desire of some people to hunt, thus providing a public service for free.

It would be nice, though, if there were more done to prevent unnecessary suffering. I'm not a hunter but my BIL is, and I do respect the fact that he is very conscientious about only going for shots where he has a very high "instant kill" percentage chance.

333 Talking Point Detective  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 7:59:51am

re: #264 ggt

I think Hoffa opened himself up to this. I don't understand why, but I guess he had good reason. Maybe he wanted the press.

One one hand, I agree - in that over-the-top rhetoric is just stupid.

On the other hand, how, exactly does one open oneself up to deceptive editing for the specific purpose of deception? The only real way to avoid that is to remain completely silent.

334 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:00:01am

re: #329 Lidane

That's true here as well. I'm almost sure that the counties around here are paying hunters to either thin the deer herds or trap them and move them to ranches and game preserves. Same goes for wild boar.

Don't quote me on that, though. I need to confirm it.

Apparently in the Great Lakes area, car insurance companies are lobbying against hunting restrictions, to try to bring down the number of deer collision claims.

335 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:00:39am

re: #329 Lidane

That's true here as well. I'm almost sure that the counties around here are paying hunters to either thin the deer herds or trap them and move them to ranches and game preserves. Same goes for wild boar.

Don't quote me on that, though. I need to confirm it.

They even tried deer birth control around here but it didn't work very well. The bucks refused to use the condoms, said it was "unnatural".

336 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:01:08am

re: #335 RogueOne

They even tried deer birth control around here but it didn't work very well. The bucks refused to use the condoms, said it was "unnatural".

OMG UNBORN DEER ABORTION ON DEMAND!!!

337 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:03:16am

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

NYC metro area suburbs in NJ and Rockland/Westchester are seeing a resurgence of deer populations, and are seeing an increase in black bears and coyotes as well. There have been several attempts to carry out bear and deer hunts, and local groups have tried to block them too.

It is a problem when you've got significant deer populations near major population centers - and the deer are a menace in and near highways too - all too often becoming roadkill and causing millions of dollars in damage and costs to localities annually.

338 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:05:52am

Wall Street roller coaster hits again; another selloff this time led by energy stocks.

339 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:08:28am

re: #338 lawhawk

Wall Street roller coaster hits again; another selloff this time led by energy stocks.

Ugh.

340 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:08:51am

re: #335 RogueOne

They even tried deer birth control around here but it didn't work very well. The bucks refused to use the condoms, said it was "unnatural".

So the coyotes moved on to a different method: around here coyotes will stalk and kill fawns. As I've mentioned before, the presence of coyotes cause deer to gather in much larger groups for defense.

341 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:10:53am

Speaking of intemperate political language:

At Strategy Seminar, Koch Refers To Obama As ‘Saddam Hussein’ To Be Defeated In ‘Mother Of All Wars’

342 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:11:06am

Anti-war Activist Cindy Sheehan Faces Tax Debts

Cindy Sheehan, a prominent anti-war activist whose son was killed in the Iraq War, recently said on her Facebook page that the IRS is demanding over $100,000 in taxes from her.

“I just got a notice from the IRS that I owe them 104 grand and they are going to levy my bank accounts and property,” she wrote. “I don’t have any property and there’s less than 150.00 in my bank accounts. Looks like Fed Prison is in my future. I would rather go to prison than fund the crimes of this government. I am going to send them a notice that they owe me infinity dollars for killing my son.”

Yeah, good luck with that.

343 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:13:22am

re: #342 NJDhockeyfan

Anti-war Activist Cindy Sheehan Faces Tax Debts

I empathized with her at first, but once she started buying into her own hype and started hanging out with Hugo Chavez, I was done with her.

344 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:14:31am

re: #342 NJDhockeyfan

Anti-war Activist Cindy Sheehan Faces Tax Debts

Yeah, good luck with that.

Government is only bad when it's regulating emissions of harmful chemicals, we all know that.

Nothing wrong with government declaring war on false pretenses and sending low-income kids off to die, no sirree.

345 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:15:17am

re: #341 Lidane

Speaking of intemperate political language:

At Strategy Seminar, Koch Refers To Obama As ‘Saddam Hussein’ To Be Defeated In ‘Mother Of All Wars’

Charles Koch needs to have his head examined. To compare Barack Obama, who has no malicious tendencies whatsoever to Saddam Hussein is so off the mark its not even funny, just sick.

346 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:15:52am

Cindy Sheehan there's a name from the past. I'll echo what Lidane said. I felt sympathy for her, I mean who wouldn't? Losing a son had to have been heartbreaking for her but when she used her bully pulpit to pal with a dictator like Chavez and started claiming that her son died for Israel. Plus, I think she was fortunate to have gotten a meeting with the president in the first place. There were some mothers who didn't get that.

347 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:18:09am

re: #341 Lidane

Speaking of intemperate political language:

At Strategy Seminar, Koch Refers To Obama As ‘Saddam Hussein’ To Be Defeated In ‘Mother Of All Wars’

I paged it earlier (different article, same subject)

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

Charles Koch needs to have his head examined. To compare Barack Obama, who has no malicious tendencies whatsoever to Saddam Hussein is so off the mark its not even funny, just sick.

Not surprising, given a keynote speaker at this Charles Koch seminar was 9/11 truther Judge Andrew Napolitano.

348 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:18:21am

re: #341 Lidane

Speaking of intemperate political language:

At Strategy Seminar, Koch Refers To Obama As ‘Saddam Hussein’ To Be Defeated In ‘Mother Of All Wars’

What a douche. Yeah, Charles Koch, he's just like Saddam, I mean you're being tortured by him, your assets are gone, and you can't oppose him. Oh wait you're saying this, you're still a rich man, and you've put millions of your own money in to opposing his agenda.

349 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:18:55am

Bush: no sense of jubilation at bin Laden's death
RINOOOO~!!!!11!!1

350 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:19:56am

re: #347 publicityStunted

Speaking of...
Awkward: Fox & Friends Debunks 9-11 Trutherism, Then Hosts Fox's In-House Truther

351 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:20:42am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

Overdone appeal to emotion. One cannot allow oneself to be swayed by scenes of death in this case. The deer in question would have to be killed anyways to keep their population in check.

It does not matter if a deer if killed by the teeth of a coyote or the arrows of a human. The reality is the same: The predator kills its prey.

Eggs/omelets

352 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:22:14am

re: #349 Varek Raith

Bush: no sense of jubilation at bin Laden's death
RINOOO~!!!11!!1

You know, maybe it says a lot about me and where I've come over the past ten years in both maturity and politics or that his side has gone completely ape shit but President Bush comes across as a decent guy to me now. I mean I have no regrets at all about supporting Gore and Kerry over him but I no longer hate the man and I think he's a voice of reason in his party now.

353 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:22:58am

re: #350 Varek Raith

Speaking of...
Awkward: Fox & Friends Debunks 9-11 Trutherism, Then Hosts Fox's In-House Truther

Heh.

354 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:24:02am

re: #350 Varek Raith

Speaking of...
Awkward: Fox & Friends Debunks 9-11 Trutherism, Then Hosts Fox's In-House Truther

"Andthat's s why trutherism is nonsense, now please welcome our friend and guest, Jduge Napolitano."

355 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:26:42am

re: #349 Varek Raith

Bush: no sense of jubilation at bin Laden's death
RINOOO~!!!11!!1

George W. Bush had the reaction of a decent man grateful to have seen a task he worked at for so long completed. And it was classy of Obama to call Bush himself and tell him bin Laden was dead.

And BTW, don't forget the role the firearms industry played in the death of Osama bin Laden. The Sierra Match King bullets that ended the terror master's life were privately developed for civilian use and later bought by SOCCOM. So the 'gun industry' helped kill bin Laden.

356 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:27:40am

She seemed to me to become showbiz/schtick early on. I believe she went running and crying to Alex Jones in 07. Then she ran to try and unseat Pelosi...cruddiest campaign ever.

Loser, omg I cannot stand her.

re: #343 Lidane

I empathized with her at first, but once she started buying into her own hype and started hanging out with Hugo Chavez, I was done with her.

357 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:28:04am

HEATED DEBATE! DNC Refuses to Condemn Hoffa Hate on 'Fox & Friends' (video)
The debate gets heated at 3:12

358 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:28:53am

re: #355 Dark_Falcon

And BTW, don't forget the role the firearms industry played in the death of Osama bin Laden. The Sierra Match King bullets that ended the terror master's life were privately developed for civilian use and later bought by SOCCOM. So the 'gun industry' helped kill bin Laden.

Considering the fact that he was shot in the head, I think it's self-evident that guns had a hand in killing him. However, giving credit to the gun industry as a whole seems like a stretch to me.

359 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:29:04am

re: #350 Varek Raith

Speaking of...
Awkward: Fox & Friends Debunks 9-11 Trutherism, Then Hosts Fox's In-House Truther

How about putting both guests on at the same time and letting Jim Meigs kick Napolitano's ass with the issue.

360 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:29:54am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

You know, maybe it says a lot about me and where I've come over the past ten years in both maturity and politics or that his side has gone completely ape shit but President Bush comes across as a decent guy to me now. I mean I have no regrets at all about supporting Gore and Kerry over him but I no longer hate the man and I think he's a voice of reason in his party now.

George W. Bush comes across as a Loveable Dunce much of the time in my opinion he'd be a good friend, fun guy to hang around with, but not someone you'd want running the country, especially with Dick Cheney as his VP. There's no meanness (well not much more than in any of us) to the guy he's just lead a sheltered life, and we'd probably all be happier if Jeb had managed to win that 1994 election (he lost 49.2% to 50.8%) so he could have been in position to run for President in 2000 instead of his brother.

Because back then you needed to be Governor of a state for more than two years before you could be considered worthy of being President in the GOPs eyes....

361 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:31:19am

re: #358 Lidane

Considering the fact that he was shot in the head, I think it's self-evident that guns had a hand in killing him. However, giving credit to the gun industry as a whole seems like a stretch to me.

I was just pointing out that the SEALs weapons used a round that was privately developed. America has gained great advantage in our fight against Islamism from private firearms industry projects.

362 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:32:49am

re: #360 jamesfirecat

George W. Bush comes across as a Loveable Dunce much of the time in my opinion he'd be a good friend, fun guy to hang around with, but not someone you'd want running the country, especially with Dick Cheney as his VP. There's no meanness (well not much more than in any of us) to the guy he's just lead a sheltered life, and we'd probably all be happier if Jeb had managed to win that 1994 election (he lost 49.2% to 50.8%) so he could have been in position to run for President in 2000 instead of his brother.

Because back then you needed to be Governor of a state for more than two years before you could be considered worthy of being President in the GOPs eyes...

I think that's it. As a baseball fan, I'd love to talk baseball with him. Too bad he didn't become commissioner and Selig did heh. I have to say, the guy while no great intellectual isn't the dumb ass I thought he was, I was real impressed with a rare appreance I saw him give at an university where he condemned nativism. That got Pat Buchanan pretty pissed off and talking about how Bush lived a shelter life. Like Pat didn't.

363 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:32:59am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

I was just pointing out that the SEALs weapons used a round that was privately developed. America has gained great advantage in our fight against Islamism from private firearms industry projects.

I thank Ford for what they did with Willow Run (managing to produce a big old four engine bomber every 63 min) and making more Tanks than Italy.

But at the same time they were completely devoting themselves to that military task whereas your example seems more like a happy accident and given that Osama was shot in the head, does it really matter what type of bullet (besides a rubber one obviously) was used?

364 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:34:18am

re: #363 jamesfirecat

PENCIL PENCIL PENCIL NOW!!!!

Edit: fixed now :)

365 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:34:38am

Folks, need a helping hand. I want to try to make a professional-looking book cover - are they any tools specifically for this task? Like, they will have templates with all the transparencies and whatnot, into which I will insert my images, etc.?

366 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:35:13am

re: #364 publicityStunted

PENCIL PENCIL PENCIL NOW!!!

Done, you can pencil your post to remove evidence of my idiocy.

367 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:36:19am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

I was just pointing out that the SEALs weapons used a round that was privately developed. America has gained great advantage in our fight against Islamism from private firearms industry projects.

The last time I checked, ALL firearms and bullets are privately developed and manufactured. I can't think of a single weapon that is actively manufactured by the government.

I understand what you're saying, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and start singing the praises of the entire gun industry just because OBL took a few rounds to the head.

368 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:36:30am

re: #363 jamesfirecat

I thank Ford for what they did with Willow Run (managing to produce a big old four engine bomber every 63 min) and making more Tanks than Italy.

But at the same time they were completely devoting themselves to that military task whereas your example seems more like a happy accident and given that Obama was shot in the head, does it really matter what type of bullet (besides a rubber one obviously) was used?

More like lower level private/military partner ships to find what works. The most recent cases are the more durable magazines being made for the AR-15/M-16 that our troops are buying for themselves, or the new 60 and 100 round extended magazines recently made available. Those private projects are delivering greater and more durable firepower into the hands of our warfighters.

369 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:36:55am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

You know, maybe it says a lot about me and where I've come over the past ten years in both maturity and politics or that his side has gone completely ape shit but President Bush comes across as a decent guy to me now. I mean I have no regrets at all about supporting Gore and Kerry over him but I no longer hate the man and I think he's a voice of reason in his party now.

I was never one to hate him. He always seemed to me to be just another typical con politician -- appeals to the uncurious, overprivileged, overfed, killing-obsessed crowd, which he did quite well. So -he's always seemed rather unexceptional to me.

I also find it interesting that it's his loyalists, Kathleen Parker/David Frum etc who are coming across as halfway normal people, the only ones with enough spine and sense of self to speak up about the tea party. Interesting.

370 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:37:48am

re: #366 jamesfirecat

Done, you can pencil your post to remove evidence of my idiocy.

Done :) On a side note, this is why I always type "Bin Laden" - even if you mess it up, it can't be confused with someone else!

371 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:38:47am

re: #367 Lidane

The last time I checked, ALL firearms and bullets are privately developed and manufactured. I can't think of a single weapon that is actively manufactured by the government.

I understand what you're saying, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and start singing the praises of the entire gun industry just because OBL took a few rounds to the head.

OK, I'm fine with that. I was just pointing out that a number of firearms companies have worked very hard on projects that were not government funded and whose success has given our military an edge. That's all.

372 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:39:08am

re: #370 publicityStunted

Done :) On a side note, this is why I always type "Bin Laden" - even if you mess it up, it can't be confused with someone else!

I'd probably find a way to type Joe Baden with my luck.

373 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:40:40am

re: #359 Dark_Falcon

How about putting both guests on at the same time and letting Jim Meigs kick Napolitano's ass with the issue.

We'll need popcorn.

374 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:41:45am

re: #368 Dark_Falcon

More like lower level private/military partner ships to find what works. The most recent cases are the more durable magazines being made for the AR-15/M-16 that our troops are buying for themselves, or the new 60 and 100 round extended magazines recently made available. Those private projects are delivering greater and more durable firepower into the hands of our warfighters.

I'm fine with lower level private /military partnerships (like with Ford).

That said, I get antsy when a weapons program designed for civilian use turns out something so deadly that our armed soldiers prefer it to their current gear.

375 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:42:21am

re: #365 Sergey Romanov

Folks, need a helping hand. I want to try to make a professional-looking book cover - are they any tools specifically for this task? Like, they will have templates with all the transparencies and whatnot, into which I will insert my images, etc.?

I assume you've thought of Illustrator?

376 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:42:27am

When the hell is DARPA gonna give us a Mech???

377 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:43:01am

re: #369 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I was never one to hate him. He always seemed to me to be just another typical con politician -- appeals to the uncurious, overprivileged, overfed, killing-obsessed crowd, which he did quite well. So -he's always seemed rather unexceptional to me.

I thought he was a shitty governor, at least until Perry came along.

I didn't care for Dubya's politics at all. I thought he was incurious and destined to be a one-term POTUS because of Enron. I can honestly say I never hated him personally, though. Dick Cheney, on the the other hand, can fuck off for all I care. He's an asshole.

378 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:45:41am

re: #374 jamesfirecat

I'm fine with lower level private /military partnerships (like with Ford).

That said, I get antsy when a weapons program designed for civilian use turns out something so deadly that our armed soldiers prefer it to their current gear.

They still use the issued gear, but for some tasks you want to have more ammo right to hand. A 60 round mag can be useful for a building assault by removing the need for a magazine change. A 100-round mag is very useful for 'mad minute' anti-ambush fire. The more durable mags are carried when units are going where resupply is difficult, so that having your mags last longer is essential or just by soldiers who want to make extra sure their mags will work.

379 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:45:58am

re: #355 Dark_Falcon

And BTW, don't forget the role the firearms industry played in the death of Osama bin Laden. The Sierra Match King bullets that ended the terror master's life were privately developed for civilian use and later bought by SOCCOM. So the 'gun industry' helped kill bin Laden.

lmao

Don't forget the role the kleenex industry played in the death of Osama bin Laden. What else were they going to use to wipe the sweat beads off their foreheads in the heat of pursuit! So the 'kleenex industry' helped kill bin Laden, too!

380 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:47:04am

re: #377 Lidane

I thought he was a shitty governor, at least until Perry came along.

I didn't care for Dubya's politics at all. I thought he was incurious and destined to be a one-term POTUS because of Enron. I can honestly say I never hated him personally, though. Dick Cheney, on the the other hand, can fuck off for all I care. He's an asshole.

I guess I was different than you guys. I hated the guy. Not hated his policies but hated the man. I still think he could have been more intellectually curious and as I said no regrets for supporting his opponents. I felt and still do that they would make better presidents but the hate is gone. I think it was because I was a teenager for Bush's presidency up until when the Republicans lost Congress. I was naive, overly idealistic, and probably immature. I think I started viewing the guy in a more positive light when I saw that he wasn't a froathing at the mouth bigot on immigration and when I started reading how later in his second term he started standing up to Cheney and being his own man i.e. the Libby thing and now we're seeing that he apparently told Cheney no when Cheney wanted to bomb Iran or was it Syria(saw it on a page last week). I've also come to seperate the politics from the man too since I realize that unlike Perry and the others running now, the guy is likable. I don't see anything likable about any of them except maybe Huntsman and then he disgusts me by pandering to abolish the EPA.

381 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:47:26am

re: #379 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

lmao

Coming next! Corporate logos on Navy SEAL uniforms. Think NASCAR.

//Privatize this!

//

382 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:48:03am

re: #381 Gus 802

Coming next! Corporate logos on Navy SEAL uniforms. Think NASCAR.

//Privatize this!

//

The 101st Airborne is sponsored by Coca Cola.

383 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:48:42am

re: #381 Gus 802

Coming next! Corporate logos on Navy SEAL uniforms. Think NASCAR.

//Privatize this!

//

This tank sponsored by Hello Kitty!

384 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:49:03am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

The 101st Airborne Chairborne is sponsored by Coca Cola Cheetos™.

Alternate.

385 jaunte  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:49:23am

Texas fires continuing:
Wildfires sweep across Texas, charring 1,000 homes

386 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:50:08am

re: #385 jaunte

Texas fires continuing:
Wildfires sweep across Texas, charring 1,000 homes

Not praying hard enough down there in God's country apparently.

387 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:50:29am

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

They still use the issued gear, but for some tasks you want to have more ammo right to hand. A 60 round mag can be useful for a building assault by removing the need for a magazine change. A 100-round mag is very useful for 'mad minute' anti-ambush fire. The more durable mags are carried when units are going where resupply is difficult, so that having your mags last longer is essential or just by soldiers who want to make extra sure their mags will work.

I understand that, I'm just asking was stuff like the 100 round mag designed with being sold to the military or to civilians in mind and if the later then why would a civilian need something like that?

388 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:50:37am

OT so I came up with a fun name for fantasy football and one with good alliteration. The Pittsburgh Fighting Pirohy. Named after my grandparents' hometown, my favorite football snack in original Slovak.

389 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:51:15am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

OT so I came up with a fun name for fantasy football and one with good alliteration. The Pittsburgh Fighting Pirohy. Named after my grandparents' hometown, my favorite football snack in original Slovak.

Fantasy Football:
RPGs for jocks!
/

390 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:51:28am

re: #387 jamesfirecat

I understand that, I'm just asking was stuff like the 100 round mag designed with being sold to the military or to civilians in mind and if the later then why would a civilian need something like that?

Those checkout lines seem to get longer every day.

391 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:51:39am

10--U.S. EPA Firearms Purchase - SIG Sauer P239

OH NOES!!1 THAT KENYAN COMMIE OBAMA IS ARMING THE EPA TO TAKE THE PROPERTY OF REAL AMERICANS!!11 HE'S GOING TO PUT US ALL IN FEMA CAMPS!!!111

I was doing research on FBO when I ran across this and decided to have some fun.

392 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:51:53am

re: #389 Varek Raith

Fantasy Football:
RPGs for jocks!
/

LOL so true.

393 jaunte  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:52:00am

re: #386 iossarian

"Ron Paul is right, people shouldn't live where stuff catches on fire."

394 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:52:16am

re: #389 Varek Raith

Fantasy Football:
RPGs for jocks!
/

And that my friends is the first time I've ever been called a jock. Gosh I look like a hippie right now nearly.

395 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:52:52am

re: #393 jaunte

"Ron Paul is right, people shouldn't live where stuff catches on fire."

Okay that made me literally laugh out loud because I can hear one of his dickhead fans saying that.

396 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:52:56am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

And that my friends is the first time I've ever been called a jock. Gosh I look like a hippie right now nearly.

I just had to say that.
Nothing personal.
:)
:P

397 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:53:06am

re: #375 RogueOne

It has a tool for making book covers?

398 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:53:22am

Pretty interesting stuff....
Special report: The secret plan to take Tripoli

Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's regime was delivered by a caterer, on a memory stick.

399 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:53:34am

re: #393 jaunte

"Ron Paul is right, people shouldn't live where stuff catches on fire."

Oxygen can catch on fire...
...
..
.
BRILLIANT!

400 iossarian  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:53:44am

re: #393 jaunte

"Ron Paul is right, people shouldn't live where stuff catches on fire."

"Then he showed old Noah the rainbow sign,
Said it won't be rain, but fire next time."

401 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:54:23am

re: #387 jamesfirecat

I understand that, I'm just asking was stuff like the 100 round mag designed with being sold to the military or to civilians in mind and if the later then why would a civilian need something like that?

Both. Civilians use to reduce the need to reload as often. Banging off 100 rounds at a stretch is a lot of fun for some people. None of those mags have been used in a crime so far (the AR_15 is very rarely seen as a crime gun).

402 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:54:53am

re: #396 Varek Raith

I just had to say that.
Nothing personal.
:)
:P

None taken.

403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:54:58am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I've also come to seperate the politics from the man too since I realize that unlike Perry and the others running now, the guy is likable. I don't see anything likable about any of them except maybe Huntsman and then he disgusts me by pandering to abolish the EPA.

Yeah, I know what you mean. For a while the slogan on my blog was "Love the politician, hate the politics". That's just a swipe at con xian bigots who claim to love the sinner and hate the sin (in fact they detest both; they detest everything.)

Re: the current crop of blowholes the GOP has running, can't say I like any of them as people and of course their politics are flat-out stupid and worthless. Nothing to admire in any of them, not even one political position, not that I can think of, anyway.

Good luck to them appealing to the people who actually swing elections, which sure ain't the tea party.

404 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:59:43am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I just find it hard to hate people personally. I see it as a tremendous waste of energy that would be better spent on something else.

In Bush's case, his politics are anathema to me. I hated his time as governor here because I thought he was lousy at the job. I opposed the war in Iraq and damn near everything he did as POTUS. I knew he was up to his eyeballs in the good ol' boy system of corruption symbolized by Enron. I thought he had a questionable mastery of the English language at times. I still couldn't bring myself to hate him personally.

Yeah, I spent eight years being called a traitor and a terrorist sympathizer for opposing him, but I also defended Bush from the ridiculous meme that he was somehow just like Hitler, and I pushed back against the 9/11 truther bullshit. If I ever met him, I'd be polite and shake his hand, and ask for a photo, just because hello, he was POTUS and my manners would prohibit anything else.

405 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:59:48am

re: #341 Lidane

Speaking of intemperate political language:

At Strategy Seminar, Koch Refers To Obama As ‘Saddam Hussein’ To Be Defeated In ‘Mother Of All Wars’

Socons are sociopaths.

406 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:00:50am

re: #404 Lidane

I just find it hard to hate people personally. I see it as a tremendous waste of energy that would be better spent on something else.

In Bush's case, his politics are anathema to me. I hated his time as governor here because I thought he was lousy at the job. I opposed the war in Iraq and damn near everything he did as POTUS. I knew he was up to his eyeballs in the good ol' boy system of corruption symbolized by Enron. I thought he had a questionable mastery of the English language at times. I still couldn't bring myself to hate him personally.

Yeah, I spent eight years being called a traitor and a terrorist sympathizer for opposing him, but I also defended Bush from the ridiculous meme that he was somehow just like Hitler, and I pushed back against the 9/11 truther bullshit. If I ever met him, I'd be polite and shake his hand, and ask for a photo, just because hello, he was POTUS and my manners would prohibit anything else.

This is where I am now at 24.

407 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:02:09am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

Both. Civilians use to reduce the need to reload as often. Banging off 100 rounds at a stretch is a lot of fun for some people. None of those mags have been used in a crime so far (the AR_15 is very rarely seen as a crime gun).

Sorry but I can't help but squirm when I contemplate how extended clips helped make the still fairly recent shooting in Arizona even worse. I know the entire "he could just carry more clips with fewer bullets in them" but as he was tackled when reloading....

But if we go much beyond this we're just going go into gun registration which is another whole kettle of fish so let me just close by saying your original post rubbed me the wrong way by trying to commercialize a national moment, it'd be like trying to sell bulldozers with a slogan based on how they were the machines used to remove the rubble from 9/11....

But personal taste is a tricky thing so I may just be overly sensitive....

408 RogueOne  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:06:00am

re: #397 Sergey Romanov

It has a tool for making book covers?

I see a bunch of tutorials and templates on google. Anything that is going to involve print media I usually stick with Illustrator since that's what I'm used to.

409 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:07:30am

re: #404 Lidane

Yeah, I spent eight years being called a traitor and a terrorist sympathizer for opposing him, but I also defended Bush from the ridiculous meme that he was somehow just like Hitler, and I pushed back against the 9/11 truther bullshit. If I ever met him, I'd be polite and shake his hand, and ask for a photo, just because hello, he was POTUS and my manners would prohibit anything else.

Yeah, it's been probably decades since I last cared about the stupid epithets a few unhinged McCarthy parrots come up with. It's all out of their own deep self-loathing, anyway.

Truther smackdown became something to look forward to at one point, but only because of their relentlessness...and that stupid Hitler shyt; it's like, you guys (truthers) hang around a bunch of Holocaust deniers. Bush=Hitler? please. Freaks.

The troothers are starting up again, I notice.

410 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:08:10am

ThinkProgress
@thinkprogress ThinkProgress
Hitler/Obama/Marx sign featured at Tea Party rally today in New Mexico [Link: t.co...] (via @fbihop)

411 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:12:05am

re: #407 jamesfirecat

But if we go much beyond this we're just going go into gun registration which is another whole kettle of fish so let me just close by saying your original post rubbed me the wrong way by trying to commercialize a national moment, it'd be like trying to sell bulldozers with a slogan based on how they were the machines used to remove the rubble from 9/11...

But personal taste is a tricky thing so I may just be overly sensitive...

You were not being overly sensitive. That post was one of the most inane non-sequiturs I've ever read. Eesh.

412 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:12:09am

re: #410 Gus 802

ThinkProgress
@thinkprogress ThinkProgress
Hitler/Obama/Marx sign featured at Tea Party rally today in New Mexico [Link: t.co...] (via @fbihop)

That looks like Lenin not Marx. That aside, does the idiot with the sign realize how much Hitler hated Lenin and the Bolsheviks and vice versa. I can hear it now though "national socialists" to which I always retort so that German Democratic Republic, great place for democracy huh dude.

413 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:12:52am

re: #411 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Fling an insult, get a downding.

414 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:12:52am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

That looks like Lenin not Marx. That aside, does the idiot with the sign realize how much Hitler hated Lenin and the Bolsheviks and vice versa. I can hear it now though "national socialists" to which I always retort so that German Democratic Republic, great place for democracy huh dude.

Yep. That's Lenin.

415 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:13:20am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

That looks like Lenin not Marx. That aside, does the idiot with the sign realize how much Hitler hated Lenin and the Bolsheviks and vice versa. I can hear it now though "national socialists" to which I always retort so that German Democratic Republic, great place for democracy huh dude.

You mean...
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't???
///

416 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:13:53am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

That looks like Lenin not Marx. That aside, does the idiot with the sign realize how much Hitler hated Lenin and the Bolsheviks and vice versa.

Please. They believe in the Doughy Pantload's contention that Nazis were liberals/socialists because the word Socialist is in the Nazi party name.

They probably think that Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, and the rest are interchangeable. Why? Because they're idiots.

417 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:14:33am

re: #414 Gus 802

Yep. That's Lenin.

Yeah that bald head is hard to forget.

418 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:15:17am

re: #416 Lidane

Please. They believe in the Doughy Pantload's contention that Nazis were liberals/socialists because the word Socialist is in the Nazi party name.

They probably think that Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, and the rest are interchangeable. Why? Because they're idiots.

The doughy pantload? Which one, Jonah Goldberg with his smiley swastika?

419 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:15:21am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

Yeah that bald head is hard to forget.

Yep. Marx had way better hair.

//

420 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:15:35am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

Fling an insult, get a downding.

Post inane non-sequiturs, don't be surprised when someone says something about it. Downding away.

421 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:16:07am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

The doughy pantload? Which one, Jonah Goldberg with his smiley swastika?

That would be him, yes. I don't remember where I saw it, but I've been calling Jonah the Doughy Pantload ever since.

422 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:17:08am

re: #419 Gus 802

Yep. Marx had way better hair.

//

On a side note since Varek brought up North Korea, I believe I read that North Korea bans facial or at least long hair on men since Kim sees it as western decedence or some crazy shit like that. Funny that since Marx had quite the beard.

423 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:17:14am
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, along with high capacity clips, shall not be infringed.

How it should have been written...

424 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:17:17am

re: #416 Lidane

About the only think Hitler and Stalin had in common was their penchant for democide and genocide. And the desire to carve up Poland (among other intermediary countries between the two powers).

425 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:17:52am

re: #421 Lidane

That would be him, yes. I don't remember where I saw it, but I've been calling Jonah the Doughy Pantload ever since.

Well, I like it. That guy is a blowhard.

426 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:18:22am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

That looks like Lenin not Marx. That aside, does the idiot with the sign realize how much Hitler hated Lenin and the Bolsheviks and vice versa.

They don't teach that at Tebag U. History Department, apparently.

These are people who lack basic literacy in anything except what to use to kill things. Can't expect much from them, I'm afraid. :/

427 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:19:15am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

Well, I like it. That guy is a blowhard.

And what the HELL is up with that stupid 70s porn mustache? Who told him that looks good?

428 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:19:52am

One of my favorite SNL TV Funhouse cartoons is one where they had Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden as a super hero duo. It's funny because there were people post 9-11 and still probably do that think Saddam and Osama had the same mindset.

429 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:20:04am

re: #423 JasonA

How it should have been written...

In the Founder's day high capacity clips meant you could load a bullet into each of the Derringer's muzzles.

430 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:21:01am

re: #424 lawhawk

About the only think Hitler and Stalin had in common was their penchant for democide and genocide. And the desire to carve up Poland (among other intermediary countries between the two powers).

You and I both know that. Anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of history knows that. The teabaggers and nutjobs who hold up signs equating whatever POTUS is in office to Hitler/Stalin/Lenin/etc.? They don't know that because they have no sense of history, no concept of the very real political differences between those leaders, and are just looking for the soundbite.

431 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:21:40am
Youtube Video

If you're curious this is it. Only four minutes.
432 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:22:23am

McBain fought Commie Nazis once on the Simpsons. That was funny.

433 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:23:39am

re: #430 Lidane

You and I both know that. Anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of history knows that. The teabaggers and nutjobs who hold up signs equating whatever POTUS is in office to Hitler/Stalin/Lenin/etc.? They don't know that because they have no sense of history, no concept of the very real political differences between those leaders, and are just looking for the soundbite.

And the moonbats who hold up signs equating Israel to Hitler and to Apartheid. Because they know it pisses off the Jews.

434 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:23:40am

This isn't going to end well....
Facing default, Postal Service turns to Congress

Drawing the ire of the postal workers' union is a website maintained by the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, which promotes the Ross-Issa Postal Reform Act. The website, "Saving the Postal Service," calls for no taxpayer bailouts, and would unilaterally rewrite collective bargaining agreements, cut reduced rates for non-profits and political committees, set up a commission to decide on closing of post office locations, and raise revenue by selling advertising space on mail trucks and in post offices. [There is no mention in the bill of eliminating lawmakers' franking privileges.]

APWU President Cliff Guffey chastised Rep Darrell Issa, R-Calif., for "wasting taxpayer money" with the site, and said the proposed law "would destroy the Postal Service as we know it."

435 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:24:10am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

McBain fought Commie Nazis once on the Simpsons. That was funny.

Youtube Video
436 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:25:38am

re: #435 Varek Raith

[Video]

Go pennies, help the puny children who need you.

437 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:26:02am

re: #434 Killgore Trout

This isn't going to end well...
Facing default, Postal Service turns to Congress

Issa's idea sound good. Restructure and downsize as needed to maintain cash flow.

438 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:26:35am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Or we could try English subtitles...

Youtube Video
439 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:26:38am

re: #430 Lidane

They don't know that because they have no sense of history, no concept of the very real political differences between those leaders, and are just looking for the soundbite.

More miseducated cons. Easily manipulated, and pushed around. They are totally capable of changing that condition, which is why they get regarded with such contempt.

440 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:27:53am

re: #437 Dark_Falcon

Issa's idea sound good. Restructure and downsize as needed to maintain cash flow.

The Post Office exists to provide a service not to make money.

441 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:28:03am

re: #438 JasonA

Or we could try English subtitles...

[Video]

WHUT

442 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:30:02am

re: #438 JasonA

Or we could try English subtitles...

[Video]

Thanks. Seriously though, I think Smigel is hilarious. I love his Disney spoofs too.

443 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:30:46am

re: #434 Killgore Trout

This isn't going to end well...
Facing default, Postal Service turns to Congress

"APWU President Cliff Guffey chastised Rep Darrell Issa, R-Calif., for "wasting taxpayer money" with the site, and said the proposed law "would destroy the Postal Service as we know it.""

GUBBMINT SHOULD BE RUN AS A BIZNESS!!

So what if 50% of bizness fails every year, SO WHAT IF THE GUBMENT FAILS EVERY YEAR!

They burned down Tara!!!

444 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:31:41am

re: #437 Dark_Falcon

Issa's idea sound good. Restructure and downsize as needed to maintain cash flow.

Uh, not really. It's more of a ruse to bust public sector unions. I strongly suspect that when the CBO scores his ideas they aren't going to do much to save the postal service. It's all a hoax.

445 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:31:48am

re: #440 jamesfirecat

The Post Office exists to provide a service not to make money.

That's true for the entire federal government. It's not a business. It's a service.

446 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:32:16am

re: #443 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I think we should privatize the United States Marine Corps.

//

447 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:32:27am

re: #437 Dark_Falcon

Issa's idea sound good. Restructure and downsize as needed to maintain cash flow.

Maintain cash flow?

448 jaunte  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:32:32am

re: #434 Killgore Trout

There is no mention in the bill of eliminating lawmakers' franking privileges

Shock!

449 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:32:58am

McMarines ©

450 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:34:12am

re: #446 Gus 802

I think we should privatize the United States Marine Corps.

//

Halliburton!1!
//

451 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:34:18am

re: #433 Alouette

And the moonbats who hold up signs equating Israel to Hitler and to Apartheid. Because they know it pisses off the Jews.

Really, anybody who holds up a sign equating anything short of the Rwandan genocide, Pol Pot's reign in Cambodia, the Srebrenica massacres, or the war in Sudan with the Holocaust is an ignorant douche. At least IMHO.

I don't have the patience for that nonsense from the left or the right.

452 jamesfirecat  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:34:22am

re: #434 Killgore Trout

This isn't going to end well...
Facing default, Postal Service turns to Congress

Clearly the only way to solve this problem is take a hedge fund manager who rose from rags to riches by conning everyone he came across, fake his death, and then put him in the witness protection program and in charge or running the post office in such a way that it becomes more effective and less costly....

It worked for Patircian Veterinari at least...

453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:34:29am

re: #446 Gus 802

I think we should privatize the United States Marine Corps.

//

re: #449 Gus 802

McMarines ©

The Few™. The Proud®.

454 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:34:48am

re: #447 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Maintain cash flow?

Should read "maintain positive cash flow".

455 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:35:48am

I just LOLed

Image: 4e52d23d756eb.jpg

456 Gus  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:35:53am

re: #453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #449 Gus 802

The Few™. The Proud®.

Join the McMarines ©!

Member fees now only $45,000 a year.

For a limited time only!

Call now for free brochure.

//

457 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:35:56am

re: #451 Lidane

Really, anybody who holds up a sign equating anything short of the Rwandan genocide, Pol Pot's reign in Cambodia, the Srebrenica massacres, or the war in Sudan with the Holocaust is an ignorant douche. At least IMHO.

I don't have the patience for that nonsense from the left or the right.

Quite Concur.

458 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:37:31am

re: #451 Lidane

Really, anybody who holds up a sign equating anything short of the Rwandan genocide, Pol Pot's reign in Cambodia, the Srebrenica massacres, or the war in Sudan with the Holocaust is an ignorant douche. At least IMHO.

I don't have the patience for that nonsense from the left or the right.

IMO it's just more eliminationism. Same for the aholes labeling gays and feminists "pedophiles". Because what is supposed to happen to Nazis and Apartheid and pedophiles, etc.

Usually, they're the pedophiles, totalitarians, and murder-minded, anyway.

459 lawhawk  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:38:32am

re: #437 Dark_Falcon

Restructuring and downsizing sounds great, except when it's your local post office that gets shuttered. In that case, you demand others be shut but yours left open.

Rinse and repeat for the thousands of locations that are supposed to get shuttered under the USPS plan. They've got to get the union to deal with this as well, and the USPS notes that the bulk of their costs are due to personnel matters. It doesn't help that the USPS has to deal with higher energy costs like everyone else, and that the recession and Internet has reduced usage and rate hikes are not the panacea either.

460 Varek Raith  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:38:39am

There's only one Hitler protest sign I'd approve.
"HITLER WAS HITLER!!!"

461 HappyBenghazi  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:41:30am

re: #460 Varek Raith

There's only one Hitler protest sign I'd approve.
"HITLER WAS HITLER!!!"

I saw a sign at the rally for sanity last year: Had an outline of Hitler and Obama's face. In the Hitler one was titled Hitler, the Obama one not Hitler. Short and simple.But yeah I'll echo what everyone has said. I hate Nazi comparisons with a passion and I damn well take it personally.

462 Four More Tears  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:41:51am

God listens...

Image: 4e31e27e301cd.jpg

463 Lidane  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:44:28am

re: #460 Varek Raith

There's only one Hitler protest sign I'd approve.
"HITLER WAS HITLER!!!"

This is the only one I'd carry:

[Link: xkcd.com...]

464 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:44:48am

re: #462 JasonA

God listens...

Image: 4e31e27e301cd.jpg

In India missionary groups used to paint signs that said "Jesus is coming."

To these were invariably added "...to become a Hindu."

465 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 9:47:29am

re: #443 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They burned down Tara!

Classic!

466 jsm  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 10:53:44am

Do you have a radio station that plays Pink Floyd? Let call and dedicate Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here" To Gilad - who has traded a "walk on part in a war for a leading role in a cage" And Mr. Waters can consider the irony of that!!!

467 tomg51spence  Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:07:14pm
This is a test. .... Turn over your test papers and begin.

That's a lousy poem.


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