Hot Air Comments of the Day

Today at Hot Air, calls for assassination, civil war, and “burning the GOP to the ground:” Hot Air » Blog Archive » Breaking: Snowe defects on committee vote.

Can we shoot these idiots now or do we have to wait for them to totally screw us over first?

Old Hippie Vet on October 13, 2009 at 1:28 PM

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Throw the leftist, Constitution-hating traitor out of the GOP caucus, already. It’s ridiculous to let her keep calling herself a Republican. She doesn’t even understand what the word “Republic” means. She is moronic scum.

progressoverpeace on October 13, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Absolutely! Strip her of her membership, and then search far and wide for a conservative to run as a Republican.

I don’t want to suggest violence, but I think this nation is headed towards a civil war if things don’t stop. The American people can’t take a whole lot more of this.

gary4205 on October 13, 2009 at 1:30 PM

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Time to drive this leftist b1tch out of the GOP once and for all!

elduende on October 13, 2009 at 1:35 PM

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The The GOP is DEAD. There’s nothing “pragmatic” about counting on a bunch of cowardly liars to stand up for American ideals.

We need to burn the GOP to the ground!

rcl on October 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM

There’s a lot more in that vein, including posts with Snowe’s phone number and all kinds of ugly misogynistic insults. Nice site you got there, Allahpundit!

UPDATE at 10/13/09 4:42:48 pm:

Uh oh. Looks like I hit a nerve: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Michael Steele launches new blog called, um, “What Up?”

Oh, and apologies to LGF on behalf of our “wingnut blog” for failing to cover this sooner. Granted, there were not one but two items about it sitting in Headlines for hours, but when a site that gave up blogging about Iran and the New York City terror plot to focus on the urgent threat from creationism tells you you’re falling down on the job, you listen.

Just a small correction, Allahpundit, if you’ll allow me. Of the 30 posts currently on the front page of LGF, only one mentions creationism — and that one is a sideline to the main point of the post.

Recent posts about Iran:
US Denies Funding to Iran Human Rights Group
Iran’s Manhattan Project Rushing Ahead
The Bear Turns
New Protests Break Out in Iran
Secret IAEA Report: Iran Can Make a Bomb Right Now

Posts about the recent terror plot arrests:
Illinois Man Arrested in Alleged Bomb Plot
Jordanian Arrested in Dallas in Alleged Skyscraper Bomb Plot
FBI Arrests Three Men in Al Qaeda NYC Plot
Denver Man Admits Al Qaeda Ties

But I know reading is teh hard.

Meanwhile, now the Hot Air commenters are directing their ugly remarks at me, naturally:

Come on, stop it with the “Charls Johnsn molested a child” rumors.

We all know he only molests bicycles. It’s on the internet, so it must be true.

Aristotle on October 13, 2009 at 7:28 PM

[…]

I think Charle Johnsn was once arrested for child molestation.

Anyone can confirm this?

TimeTraveler on October 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM

UPDATE at 10/13/09 5:33:49 pm:

Allahpundit warns the commenters:

Knock it off. Do it again and you’re banned.

Allahpundit on October 13, 2009 at 7:21 PM

But what else did he expect? It’s interesting that he feels one or two libelous comments about child molestation aren’t enough to get banned.

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457 comments
1 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 3:56:28pm
The The GOP is DEAD. There’s nothing “pragmatic” about counting on a bunch of cowardly liars to stand up for American ideals.

We need to burn the GOP to the ground!

There's no ned for that. Just keep pushing out the RINOs! and you'll get the same effect, 'rcl'.

2 haole  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 3:57:26pm

Popcorn, Popcorn.

3 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 3:58:41pm

I think we are seeing times in this country which will lead to big political and social changes; but I can't seem to make them out in the present dimness.

4 arethusa  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 3:58:52pm

They ignore the fact that Snowe said that if the bill she voted for was altered significantly before it hits the Senate floor - as it will be - she would no longer be on board.

I also understand that she actually read the thing. Apparently that's unusual in Congress these days.

5 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:01:46pm

anonymity...such a beautiful thing
these 'types' are gonna really blow a fuse when someone goes overboard and the feds step in...their behavior is corrosive and will eventually come back to haunt them...political rage, it's the new pink

6 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:02:35pm

And why is it that the right has the reputation of being hateful, violent, backwards, racist , misogynistic and ignorant?

Ohhh. I know it's a democratic plot to make them look bad...

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7 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:02:56pm
Can we shoot these idiots now or do we have to wait for them to totally screw us over first?

Christ! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

Political assasination??!

8 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:03:16pm

This reminds me more and more of the purges and splintering of the communist parties. Who is conservative enough? It's not going to end well.

9 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:03:29pm

hot air was aptly named. That's all these people are full of- hot, angry air that they release in the form of their comments. All they do is display their overt hostility on every thread about any topic, and never stop to consider how unappealing that is to the very people they need to convince to join them if they're going to achieve electoral victories. How stupid is that?

10 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:05:04pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

Very. Oh, it was a rhetorical question. Sorry.

11 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:05:06pm

Yet no word about Chris Matthews speculating about shoving a bomb inside Limbaughs mouth.

12 Ray in TX  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:06:31pm

ok, I'm generally of the opinion that it's hard to hold the bloggers accountable for every comment posted.

Charles, however, aggressively monitors post content on LGF so I think he's entitled to criticize. It will be interesting to see if those comments are removed.

13 screaming_eagle  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:06:36pm

Gotta love it. Congress doesn't even have a finalized bill yet. Just wait until the Dems start going after each others throats,too.

14 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:06:45pm

re: #11 redshirt

your in the wrong thread.

15 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:07:00pm

re: #11 redshirt

Yet no word about Chris Matthews speculating about shoving a bomb inside Limbaughs mouth.

No matter what is posted here regarding bad or just plain silly behavior by someone on the right, there is ALWAYS someone ready to come up with a perceived equivalent on the left. Remarkable.

16 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:08:22pm

re: #15 bratwurst

think is, it was mentioned.
not in this thread, though.
redshirt isn't seeing what's in plain sight in front of him.

17 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:10:33pm

re: #16 reine.de.tout

think is, it was mentioned.
not in this thread, though.
redshirt isn't seeing what's in plain sight in front of him.

And I don't mean to excuse Matthews going off the rails yet again either.

18 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:11:24pm

re: #11 redshirt

Yet no word about Chris Matthews speculating about shoving a bomb inside Limbaughs mouth.

You can't even get you facts straight, can you? Matthew's was laughing and joshing about an undefined "someone" pushing a CO2 cartridge into Rush's head. He said nothing about a bomb.

And by the way, since Chrissy said what he said, does that make it ok for people to be making the kind of comments they are making at Hot Air?

19 Jooly  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:11:28pm

What's wrong with posting the public office telephone number to a public official?

20 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:12:05pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

hot air was aptly named. That's all these people are full of- hot, angry air that they release in the form of their comments. All they do is display their overt hostility on every thread about any topic, and never stop to consider how unappealing that is to the very people they need to convince to join them if they're going to achieve electoral victories. How stupid is that?

some of it, I would bet, is simply pathological...rage for it's own sake and the internet is the perfect medium to vent

21 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:12:33pm

re: #17 bratwurst

And I don't mean to excuse Matthews going off the rails yet again either.

I understand.
Redshirt and some others, imo, are not seeing what's in plain sight in front of them. The GOP and many supporters are in a complete meltdown from sanity and rational thinking. And frankly, that's a concern to me that's bigger than what Matthews says about Rush, as vicious as it was. Rush can take care of himself. The GOP needs major intervention.

22 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:12:39pm

A big feature of Hot Air used to be "Vent"... so they had their trend set for them by the other Crazy (for Dobson) Michelle. (Not Bachmann)

23 Jooly  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:12:55pm

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

You can't even get you facts straight, can you? Matthew's was laughing and joshing about an undefined "someone" pushing a CO2 cartridge into Rush's head. He said nothing about a bomb.

And by the way, since Chrissy said what he said, does that make it ok for people to be making the kind of comments they are making at Hot Air?

What would pushing a CO2 cartridge into someone's head do? Not something good. I can't believe you are trying to defend it. I don't care if it is an "undefined someone" what ever that means.

24 Ray in TX  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:12:56pm

So, what's the over/under on Snowe defecting to the Democratic party?

If those comments are any indication of the vitriole on the Right towards her, I wonder how long it will be before the GOP leadership bends and starts pressuring her to vote party-line.

25 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:13:06pm

No, I see it, and I don't like it.
Matthews did something far worse I believe.
Charles says Fox is the worst often, and I can't argue with the things he posts, but I think the lefty news is equally offensive.
I have no respect for anonymous posters spewing that crap.

26 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:13:07pm

re: #19 Jooly

What's wrong with posting the public office telephone number to a public official?

Probably in of itself, nothing. When tied to a page of threats and insults, probably a BIG problem, don't you think?

Or did you sort of miss those comments that was surrounding the phone numbers. Play again?

27 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:13:40pm

re: #21 reine.de.tout

I understand.
Redshirt and some others, imo, are not seeing what's in plain sight in front of them. The GOP and many supporters are in a complete meltdown from sanity and rational thinking. And frankly, that's a concern to me that's bigger than what Matthews says about Rush, as vicious as it was. Rush can take care of himself. The GOP needs major intervention.

CODE RED!
CODE RED!

28 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:14:16pm

re: #23 Jooly

What would pushing a CO2 cartridge into someone's head do? Not something good. I can't believe you are trying to defend it. I don't care if it is an "undefined someone" what ever that means.

did you watch the vid?

29 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:14:17pm

re: #20 albusteve

some of it, I would bet, is simply pathological...rage for it's own sake and the internet is the perfect medium to vent

Absolutely. It's the modern soapbox, and it's easily available and has a much wider audience than a street corner.

30 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:14:19pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

I thought that was the intent-To be a blog for the very angry. Hot Air.
Seriously, from the title that was always my assumption None of my lurking changed the impression. An attempt at public catharsis and anger management via a "harmless" tool. The keyboard.

31 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:14:38pm

So I guess everyone that does not favor sedition, secession, and assassination as political tools are now officially RINOs?

Seriously that "burn it down" comment really is telling, more and more I am coming around to the belief that what some of these people really want is simply anarchy and utter chaos. What is it that they suppose the ultimate outcome of the actions they advocate to be, a unified theocratic utopia? Surely they can't be that delusional...

32 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:14:44pm

re: #19 Jooly

What's wrong with posting the public office telephone number to a public official?

Let me see...

Posting information in conjuction with actual calls for her assasination.

What could possibly be objectionable about that?

33 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:14:55pm

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

You can't even get you facts straight, can you? Matthew's was laughing and joshing about an undefined "someone" pushing a CO2 cartridge into Rush's head. He said nothing about a bomb.

And by the way, since Chrissy said what he said, does that make it ok for people to be making the kind of comments they are making at Hot Air?

Facts straight?
He wants Rush's head blown off.

34 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:15:01pm

Ed and AP seem angry today.

35 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:15:19pm

re: #23 Jooly

What would pushing a CO2 cartridge into someone's head do? Not something good. I can't believe you are trying to defend it. I don't care if it is an "undefined someone" what ever that means.

I'm not defending it, I was correcting him. He misstated what Chrissy said, didn't he? You don't give a shit about accuracy?

36 dugmartsch  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:15:43pm

re: #25 redshirt

Calling chris matthews a lefty is offensive to thoughtful lefties.

I don't like the dude, I don't watch the dude, I don't want to be associated with the dude.

37 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:15:57pm

re: #24 Ray in TX

So, what's the over/under on Snowe defecting to the Democratic party?

If those comments are any indication of the vitriole on the Right towards her, I wonder how long it will be before the GOP leadership bends and starts pressuring her to vote party-line.

Or how long it will be before she says "Screw these neanderthal misogynists, I'm changing to Democrat". You can see them pulling the same shit in NY-23 where they are running a religious conservative *who cannot win in the general* purposely to defeat Dede Scozzafava, a Republican who's pro choice and who pretty much has a lock on the district without the Hoffman third party challenge.

38 Ray in TX  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:16:31pm

re: #33 redshirt

Facts straight?
He wants Rush's head blown off.

No, he doesn't. He was speculating on if Rush is getting himself into a position to be taken down, and was clearly using a movie reference as a metaphor.

If Rush dies, Matthews loses something to talk about.

39 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:16:34pm

re: #36 dugmartsch

Calling chris matthews a lefty is offensive to thoughtful lefties.

I don't like the dude, I don't watch the dude, I don't want to be associated with the dude.

What word would you prefer?

40 dugmartsch  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:16:38pm

re: #33 redshirt

Also, if serious republicans would say the same thing about their much more offensive elements we would all be square. They don't.

41 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:17:37pm

re: #38 Ray in TX

No, he doesn't. He was speculating on if Rush is getting himself into a position to be taken down, and was clearly using a movie reference as a metaphor.

If Rush dies, Matthews loses something to talk about.

OK, say Limbaugh said the same thing about Obama.
What would Charles' headline be?

42 dugmartsch  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:17:55pm

re: #39 redshirt

It's not about semantics really. I appreciate you asking but I mean the guy is really just a paid talking head he doesn't represent anyone but himself.

43 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:17:57pm

re: #33 redshirt

Facts straight?
He wants Rush's head blown off.

Right... you said "Yet no word about Chris Matthews speculating about shoving a bomb inside Limbaughs mouth."

That's not what he said, period. Go watch the video, listen closely and then we can play. I never defended him, but you are not relating this accurately.

If you want to see what I had to say about him, go look in the last thread. Get your story straight.

44 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:18:11pm

re: #30 Rightwingconspirator

I thought that was the intent-To be a blog for the very angry. Hot Air.
Seriously, from the title that was always my assumption None of my lurking changed the impression. An attempt at public catharsis and anger management via a "harmless" tool. The keyboard.

I've never liked hot air. I can hardly stand to read comments over there because the layout is terrible. And then there's the content of those pages- just ugly.

The misogyny is so thick, you could cut it with a knife. Why would any self-respecting woman want to join that site and spend time around such people?

45 bosforus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:18:55pm
We need to burn the GOP to the ground!

Isn't it kind of already in the smoldering stages?

46 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:19:01pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

Absolutely. It's the modern soapbox, and it's easily available and has a much wider audience than a street corner.

and it becomes problematic in that as the rage escalates, it all has to be taken seriously...you just can't separate the imposters from the authentic threats...these peole may wreck the very thing that makes them such a bigshot in the first place...how ironic...thinking our parallel stalker blog here

47 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:19:02pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Ed and AP seem angry today.

Moderating morons is teh hard.

48 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:19:22pm

re: #40 dugmartsch

Also, if serious republicans would say the same thing about their much more offensive elements we would all be square. They don't.

er. um. Keep reading LGF.
Some serious republicans are here.

49 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:20:01pm

re: #33 redshirt

Here, go read what I have to say about Matthew's...

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

50 rwmofo  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:20:22pm

re: #19 Jooly

What's wrong with posting the public office telephone number to a public official?

Because people who aren't resourceful enough to figure it out on their own will harass the Rep/Senator's office with what the instigator said to say and it doesn't really accomplish anything.

51 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:20:25pm

re: #47 Sharmuta

Moderating morons is teh hard.


Pretty much.

52 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:20:50pm

re: #41 redshirt

OK, say Limbaugh said the same thing about Obama.
What would Charles' headline be?

Why are you trying to put Ray on the spot? Why don't you instead get some balls and ask Charles the question you obviously are making implications about?

53 akarra  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:20:57pm

Those comments at Hot Air are disgusting. I hope Hot Air gets serious and starts purging its more radical associations soon. I hope they realize that it isn't worth having an audience as awful as the one posting, and that the very ugly views of some of their friends are very dangerous.

54 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:21:04pm

re: #31 ausador

AKA; We had to destroy the Constitution in order to save it.

55 Ray in TX  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:21:04pm

re: #41 redshirt

OK, say Limbaugh said the same thing about Obama.
What would Charles' headline be?

Do I look like Charles?

56 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:21:07pm

re: #36 dugmartsch

Calling chris matthews a lefty is offensive to thoughtful lefties.

I don't like the dude, I don't watch the dude, I don't want to be associated with the dude.

So the no true Scotsman defense?

57 bosforus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:21:28pm

re: #19 Jooly

Just post a link to it.

58 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:21:48pm

re: #48 reine.de.tout

I can't think of many other sites where serious republicans would feel welcomed. LGF is a harbor in a tempest for many of us conservatives these days.

59 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:22:05pm

re: #33 redshirt

Facts straight?
He wants Rush's head blown off.

'It was sarcasm!'
/

60 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:22:33pm

re: #58 Sharmuta

I can't think of many other sites where serious republicans would feel welcomed. LGF is a harbor in a tempest for many of us conservatives these days.

And a few nuts like me! Wheee...

61 dugmartsch  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:22:34pm

re: #48 reine.de.tout

That's why i'm here. But serious though you are none of you (that i know!) are in a position of power or organizational responsibility.

I'm very thankful to have found a place of thoughtful people from both sides of the aisle.

62 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:22:46pm

re: #51 celticdragon

Pretty much.

They reap what the sow. I'd play the world's smallest violin for ed and ap right now, but it's in the shop getting fixed.

63 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:23:00pm

re: #21 reine.de.tout

I understand.
Redshirt and some others, imo, are not seeing what's in plain sight in front of them. The GOP and many supporters are in a complete meltdown from sanity and rational thinking. And frankly, that's a concern to me that's bigger than what Matthews says about Rush, as vicious as it was. Rush can take care of himself. The GOP needs major intervention.

The problem is that right now the ground is laid down for people who use divisive rhetoric in order to increase their own power base. This can only lead to one thing: a balkanization of the party. If it's allowed to continue unchecked I should say but nothing gives me any hope that it will be stopped anytime soon since there is no voice of reason that can be heard over the insane cacklers. Anyway. I had a point somewhere. What was it? Oh yes. This is bad stuff because regardless off where you lean politically a democracy can't really subsist on the shoulders of one party. In fact this shows, very clearly, that the lack of diversity on the political front in US politics, is a major risk factor. In most other democracies (and I am not talking about the young ones with 27 bajillion parties) you tend to have somewhere between 3 and 8 political parties, sometimes with unclear ideological boundaries but certainly with distinct messages and core demographics. In this case, a collapse of the GOP is hysterically bad - even for Democrats since a working democracy requires that people have a choice. An actual choice. A real choice. But the problem here is that a lot of people won't. Normal, sane people are running the risk of losing the ability to take part in the democratic process in a meaningful way since the nominations risk being hijacked by populists and finger pointers armed with "death panel" soundbites and with interests that are not aligned with the voters.

Something like that.

64 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:23:03pm

re: #55 Ray in TX

Do I look like Charles?

Almost, but not as cute.

65 dugmartsch  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:23:16pm

re: #56 rwdflynavy

I'm not trying to be dodgy but the guy really hasn't thought before he's spoken in like 20 years.

66 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:23:49pm

re: #40 dugmartsch

Also, if serious republicans would say the same thing about their much more offensive elements we would all be square. They don't.

Agreed. For both sides.

67 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:24:37pm

re: #23 Jooly

What would pushing a CO2 cartridge into someone's head do? Not something good. I can't believe you are trying to defend it. I don't care if it is an "undefined someone" what ever that means.

It would cause localized global warming among other things...

68 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:24:52pm

re: #62 Sharmuta

They reap what the sow. I'd play the world's smallest violin for ed and ap right now, but it's in the shop getting fixed.

LOl. I will think of something appropriate when I practice my harp later this evening. :)

69 avanti  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:25:07pm

re: #11 redshirt

Yet no word about Chris Matthews speculating about shoving a bomb inside Limbaughs mouth.

Now it's a friggin bomb ???

70 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:25:27pm

re: #63 enoughalready

The party Balkanized in 2005 when Club for Decay through Reagan's maxim out the window at the bidding of the religious right and started the great RINO hunt. The immigration bill snafu was the first sign of the nativist / Bircher putsch to come.

71 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:03pm

re: #66 redshirt

Agreed. For both sides.

Yet again...can't take one post off from "look, they do it too", huh?

72 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:08pm

re: #69 avanti

Now it's a friggin bomb ???

You're late to the thread Avanti. Corrections have already been made, apologies had, and we've all crack open a bottle of beer over each other head.
/

73 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:32pm

re: #67 Pianobuff

It would cause localized global warming among other things...

Like...Hot Air??

74 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:49pm

re: #68 celticdragon

LOl. I will think of something appropriate when I practice my harp later this evening. :)

My violin's been in the shop for quite some time now. I think Killgore might have lost it. But then again- it was very small.

75 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:54pm
76 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:55pm

/pimf "threw"

77 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:26:57pm

Looks like they aren't going to clean up that thread. Phone #'s and calls for violence are still posted.

78 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:27:03pm

re: #58 Sharmuta

I can't think of many other sites where serious republicans would feel welcomed. LGF is a harbor in a tempest for many of us conservatives these days.

Damn, Shar - you got that right. For anyone who is serious and thoughtful and wants a successful GOP - one that isn't a laughingstock - it's right here.

79 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:27:42pm

re: #70 Thanos

One could probably argue that point successfully yes, but it seems to me that the real watershed was the Palin nomination. Something broke there I think. It's just a gut feel though and bla bla.

80 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:27:43pm

re: #58 Sharmuta

Angry Republicans with an axe to grind have far more choices than calm ones. But I shut up right there as I'm an indy. A calm one most days.

81 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:27:46pm

re: #75 MadisonConservative

Flounce

82 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:27:49pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

My violin's been in the shop for quite some time now. I think Killgore might have lost it. But then again- it was very small.

Heh! Tell him you want it back =D

83 Cathypop  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:28:02pm

Dam it is getting freaky out there. I will continue to call my self a conservitive but will add "with an I.Q. above plant life"
Way above.

84 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:28:20pm

re: #75 MadisonConservative

but you are here nevertheless?...why?

85 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:28:37pm

re: #75 MadisonConservative

I've seen a few of your comments at hot air. I thought you were smarter than this. My bad.

86 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:28:44pm
87 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:28:49pm

re: #84 albusteve

but you are here nevertheless?...why?

Where?

88 avanti  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:29:08pm

re: #23 Jooly

What would pushing a CO2 cartridge into someone's head do? Not something good. I can't believe you are trying to defend it. I don't care if it is an "undefined someone" what ever that means.

He was trying to tie it into the Jaws movie with the scuba tank, a dumb joke, but not quite a threat to blow up Rush with bomb.

89 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:29:14pm

re: #81 Gus 802


And gone before I could even mock it :(

90 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:29:33pm

re: #84 albusteve

but you are here nevertheless?...why?

To slam their bedroom door, and go write in their diary how misunderstood they are.

91 Cathypop  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:29:43pm

Well isn't that sweet of you

92 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:02pm

re: #87 Walter L. Newton

Where?

now it's 'how'...stay tuned

93 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:19pm

re: #89 celticdragon

And gone before I could even mock it :(

It's like seeing a ghost!!!

94 avanti  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:20pm

re: #72 Walter L. Newton

You're late to the thread Avanti. Corrections have already been made, apologies had, and we've all crack open a bottle of beer over each other head.
/

That's what I get for taking a break to buy a Studebaker.

95 Cathypop  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:21pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

To slam their bedroom door, and go write in their diary how misunderstood they are.

Do you have teen-agers?

96 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:31pm

re: #86 MadisonConservative


Yep. Flounce.

Jungian projection is so telling...

97 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:41pm

re: #88 avanti

He was trying to tie it into the Jaws movie with the scuba tank, a dumb joke, but not quite a threat to blow up Rush with bomb.

Wrong... did YOU even watch the video? He was making a reference to Yaphet Koto and his role in a James Bond movie and the part where he gets killed when someone shoves a CO2 cartridge into his head. Matthew's even references the James Bond movie.

Now Jaws.

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:30:55pm

re: #95 Cathypop

Do you have teen-agers?

I used to be one.

99 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:31:16pm

re: #79 enoughalready

One could probably argue that point successfully yes, but it seems to me that the real watershed was the Palin nomination. Something broke there I think. It's just a gut feel though and bla bla.

This started way back before Palin. Remember Luap Nor was in the Race well before she was announced, and he didn't drop after the announcement. He also held his own convention. It goes way back and started with the Buchanan brigade making "culture wars" a key theme of his campaign, and it's built ever since. The first big break with GOP general was over immigration and SC nominations, so you can see that it's the Socons driving it. Michelle Malkin was at the forefront of the nativist RINO hunting horde, and still is.

100 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:31:41pm

MadisonConservative,
Enjoy the new comment policy at Hot Air banning racial epithets. You're welcome.

101 Cathypop  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:31:45pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

I used to be one.

I refuse to admit being one.

102 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:32:48pm

re: #99 Thanos

I bow to your superior judgement here. However, am I wrong in thinking that it has escalated rapidly in the last 14 months?

103 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:33:01pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

To slam their bedroom door, and go write in their diary how misunderstood they are.

Now, Sharmuta, I'm still slamming my doors from the previous thread, so go easy on the door-slammers, please.

104 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:34:35pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

MadisonConservative,
Enjoy the new comment policy at Hot Air banning racial epithets. You're welcome.

That they're more angry at you for making them show some decency instead of being mad at the people who drove you to post those comments says a lot about the quality of thinkers at hot air.

105 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:34:59pm

The term I now use is the ugly-o-sphere, because it is ugly.

Don't know how many people saw this New York article from last month:

Who Is Barack Obama? And why do people say such loopy, ugly things about him? The enduring rot in American politics.

It similarly covers several of the idiocies that are written about here at LGF. The writer believes that the far right doesn't have anything else but "confrontational" politics left:

Meanwhile, the right is ready. Confrontational politics is all it has. The movement is supple. It changes its message every day. It was fighting back on the racism—there were four black faces on the stage in Scranton that day. When I asked the tea partyers where Obama was born, they got annoyed. “It doesn’t matter now,” one said. “You’re trying to make us into birthers,” said another.

The birthers were an embarrassment, but they had done vital political work: they’d given the right-wing movement a soul, however ugly and false. The right didn’t like the idea of a consensus American culture, and its passion had exposed that notion as a romance of the Obama era, albeit one many of us share.

106 Dona Quixote  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:35:11pm

I'm a new poster and I've been a Republican for decades. I was having a conversation with my moderate Republican mother and we both agreed that as long as Olympia could take it we were still in, but if she left we'd go independent. We felt that some moderates needed to stay in the party to help it rehabilitate when it imploded, but it seems they (conservatives) want anyone moderate out of the party. We'll take our votes and our money and go home.

107 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:35:22pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

MadisonConservative,
Enjoy the new comment policy at Hot Air banning racial epithets. You're welcome.

heh (ouch!)

108 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:35:38pm

Carrying on with the theme in 99: The nativist rino hunters are ineffective and have cost us losses and defections the past two elections. This is not just happening at the national level, you see it at local levels too. Previous red states are now Purple shading to blue.

Their angst in the pants temper tantrums stopped immigration reform while Republicans controlled congress, and now it's going to come back next year with elections due and the Dems at the helm and in full control.

Man, that was a real effective way to reform immigration...

// not

109 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:35:54pm

re: #104 Sharmuta

That they're more angry at you for making them show some decency instead of being mad at the people who drove you to post those comments says a lot about the quality of thinkers at hot air.

Yup. They're also claiming that I'm racist for mocking their racism. Heh.

110 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:36:04pm

re: #106 Dona Quixote

I fear it's the only way they're going to learn.

111 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:36:51pm

re: #109 Killgore Trout

Yup. They're also claiming that I'm racist for mocking their racism. Heh.

Yes- that's a big talking point on a couple of hater sites. Lame.

112 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:37:11pm

re: #106 Dona Quixote

I'm a new poster and I've been a Republican for decades. I was having a conversation with my moderate Republican mother and we both agreed that as long as Olympia could take it we were still in, but if she left we'd go independent. We felt that some moderates needed to stay in the party to help it rehabilitate when it imploded, but it seems they (conservatives) want anyone moderate out of the party. We'll take our votes and our money and go home.

wait and see...there are millions of moderate conservatives out there, wait and see how they vote (if they do)

113 avanti  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:37:24pm

re: #97 Walter L. Newton

Wrong... did YOU even watch the video? He was making a reference to Yaphet Koto and his role in a James Bond movie and the part where he gets killed when someone shoves a CO2 cartridge into his head. Matthew's even references the James Bond movie.

Now Jaws.

I had the Jaws Scuba tank in my head, didn't recall the Bond movie.

114 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:38:39pm

re: #113 avanti

I had the Jaws Scuba tank in my head, didn't recall the Bond movie.

Me'thinks the point was you making a reference without even taking the time to watch the clip

115 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:39:30pm

re: #111 Sharmuta

Yes- that's a big talking point on a couple of hater sites. Lame.

totally self absorbed...they don't get the simple ploy that pwnd them

116 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:40:22pm

re: #102 enoughalready

I bow to your superior judgement here. However, am I wrong in thinking that it has escalated rapidly in the last 14 months?

Most definitely - post election especially. Several things happened to encourage it: Two forces majeur that used to keep a lid on these crazies (for obviously different reasons) died: William F. Buckley, and Paul Weyrich.
Weyrich funded and encouraged many of these orgs, but he had the sense to keep them and their bile lower key so his goal was pragmatic. William F. Buckley stood on principle however, and didn't want cockroaches and worms in his party.
The other thing that happened is a huge shift in demographics, and donors
The other thing that happened is a huge power vacuum.

Then there was that thing where we let the Democrats go from the luddite party to the party who believes there is a future while our pundits are preaching doom.

I could go on but this is getting damned depressing.

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:40:53pm

re: #4 arethusa

They ignore the fact that Snowe said that if the bill she voted for was altered significantly before it hits the Senate floor - as it will be - she would no longer be on board.

I also understand that she actually read the thing. Apparently that's unusual in Congress these days.

These folks don't care. She didn't yell the groupthink yells. That means she's a 'leftist'.

Olympia Snowe has more class in one of her little toes than any of these yackers will ever sum up between them.

118 avanti  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:41:13pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

Me'thinks the point was you making a reference without even taking the time to watch the clip

Nope I did watch the clip, just though Mathews had his movies mixed up. I swore I recalled a shark mentioned.My bad.

119 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:41:14pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

Me'thinks the point was you making a reference without even taking the time to watch the clip

What's this I hear about Quint going after Rush?

120 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:41:51pm

re: #118 avanti

Nope I did watch the clip, just though Mathews had his movies mixed up. I swore I recalled a shark mentioned.My bad.

Jaws was in a Bond movie, though, right?

121 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:42:19pm

re: #119 Pianobuff

What's this I hear about Quint going after Rush?

They're gonna need a bigger boat.

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:42:45pm

re: #8 enoughalready

This reminds me more and more of the purges and splintering of the communist parties. Who is conservative enough? It's not going to end well.

It doesn't. Almost all extreme leftist groups go through this, and it ends with no one having enough people to do anything except be pure in very small groups. There's a reason 'big tent' is such an effective idea.

123 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:42:51pm

re: #120 Pianobuff

Jaws was in a Bond movie, though, right?

no, that was Robert Shaw

124 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:43:25pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

I fear it's the only way they're going to learn.

I believe that is the only way they'll learn. I'm tired of my vote for them being taken for granted and then pissed on. They want their purges? Fine, they can kiss my vote goodbye.

/yay! I've been 'purged' from both parties!1! (Not by anyone here, mind you). And my relatives wonder why I'm a cynical bastard!

125 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:43:54pm

See the update above...

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:43:59pm

re: #15 bratwurst

No matter what is posted here regarding bad or just plain silly behavior by someone on the right, there is ALWAYS someone ready to come up with a perceived equivalent on the left. Remarkable.

If we're all equally culpable, then no one has to apologize!

127 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:44:03pm

re: #123 albusteve

no, that was Robert Shaw

There was a Bond villain named Jaws.

128 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:44:31pm

re: #120 Pianobuff

Jaws was in a Bond movie, though, right?

There was a character named "Jaws" in a couple of bond movies, I think - huge guy with metal teeth.

129 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:45:12pm

re: #123 albusteve

no, that was Robert Shaw

He was in The Sting.

I'm talking about Jaws. Metal teeth and all.

Martin Brody: Better check the bite radius.
Dr. Elkins: The what?
Martin Brody: The shape of the mouth...
Dr. Elkins: Whales mouth?
Martin Brody: Rush's mouth.
Dr. Elkins: What Rush?
Martin Brody: The Rush that did this.
Dr. Elkins: We don't know that, do we?
Martin Brody: But we're here to find out!
Dr. Elkins: And we will.
Hendricks: I can't hear you if you're going to whisper!

130 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:45:17pm

re: #116 Thanos

Thanks. Yes. Depressing. Now I completely lost my appetite as well.

131 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:45:43pm

From the referrers page, it looks like the air heads are trying to link to LGF articles involving Kos. I smell a meme afoot.

132 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:46:05pm

re: #79 enoughalready

One could probably argue that point successfully yes, but it seems to me that the real watershed was the Palin nomination. Something broke there I think. It's just a gut feel though and bla bla.

Oh, one more thing: I don't know if my judgment is superior, I liked your comment as well.

133 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:46:24pm

re: #125 Charles

See the update above...

Check Ace lately?

134 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:46:24pm

Scoreboard44 is planning a flounce.

135 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:46:38pm

re: #129 Pianobuff

He was in The Sting.

I'm talking about Jaws. Metal teeth and all.

Martin Brody: Better check the bite radius.
Dr. Elkins: The what?
Martin Brody: The shape of the mouth...
Dr. Elkins: Whales mouth?
Martin Brody: Rush's mouth.
Dr. Elkins: What Rush?
Martin Brody: The Rush that did this.
Dr. Elkins: We don't know that, do we?
Martin Brody: But we're here to find out!
Dr. Elkins: And we will.
Hendricks: I can't hear you if you're going to whisper!

Shaw was in Dr No...as well as Jaws...get it?...it's a joke

136 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:46:51pm

re: #33 redshirt

Facts straight?
He wants Rush's head blown off.

Without suggesting that what he said (which I haven't seen yet) was OK, do you really think Chris Matthews wants someone to kill Rush Limbaugh?

137 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:46:57pm

re: #119 Pianobuff

What's this I hear about Quint going after Rush?

"Quint"?

Sorry ,,, someone posted a clip of Chris Matthews

138 abbyadams  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:47:16pm

re: #123 albusteve

re: #128 reine.de.tout

The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker. i am SO depressed that I know that...

139 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:47:45pm

Now posted in the comments at Hot Air:

Come on, stop it with the “Charls Johnsn molested a child” rumors.

We all know he only molests bicycles. It’s on the internet, so it must be true.

Aristotle on October 13, 2009 at 7:28 PM

[...]

I think Charli Jhnsn was once arrested for child molestation.

Anyone can confirm this?

TimeTraveler on October 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM

140 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:47:53pm

re: #135 albusteve

Shaw was in Dr No...as well as Jaws...get it?...it's a joke

You know, I've never seen Robert Shaw and Rush at the same time.

Hmmm...

141 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:48:13pm

re: #106 Dona Quixote

I'm a new poster and I've been a Republican for decades. I was having a conversation with my moderate Republican mother and we both agreed that as long as Olympia could take it we were still in, but if she left we'd go independent. We felt that some moderates needed to stay in the party to help it rehabilitate when it imploded, but it seems they (conservatives) want anyone moderate out of the party. We'll take our votes and our money and go home.

Dulcinea? What are you doing out of LaMancha?

142 kirkspencer  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:48:17pm

I've mentioned several times (other sites, folks, this is only my second here) that the GOP appears to be going through a zealotry crisis. A lot of long-lived organizations do. Put simply, the zealots gain enough power that they try to enforce the One True Way, they lose a battle or other engagement, and then decide they Were Not True Enough. At that point a positive feedback loop begins. They kick out fellow travelers who are no longer considered True and try again. If they lose again, repeat.

The most typical end result is the destruction of the organization as it was. Something that bears the same name and has many of the same people may survive but how it's treated by outsiders and what its internal rules look like are completely different. Sometimes the organization (or nation or religion or, well, etc.) is completely destroyed. Least common but once in a while something happens to break the feedback loop.

I don't know what's going to happen to the GOP at the national level. I know it won't be pretty. It'll unbalance things for years - maybe decades - even if they pull it out now. My personal guess is that we have at least three 2-year electoral cycles for the GOP to pull out or go into collapse mode - and that it's too late for ' your father's GOP' to come back.

143 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:48:29pm

re: #133 Pianobuff

Couldn't care less what that jackass says.

144 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:48:45pm

OT: Stupid Nazi tricks:

[Link: www1.whdh.com...]

Police along with the Secret Service are investigating after a local country club discovered a symbol that represents eastern religious beliefs carved into the green.

Lakeville Country Club workers discovered the vandalism early Monday morning.

Police believe the vandals meant to carve a swastika next to President Barack Obama's name on the 18th hole; however, the symbol was backwards and means hope and peace in some Eastern countries.

145 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:48:54pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Scoreboard44 is planning a flounce.

Pre-emptive block!

146 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:48:54pm

re: #139 Charles

Ugh.

147 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:49:01pm

re: #138 abbyadams

I'm depressed at the very mention of Moonraker.

148 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:49:28pm

re: #145 Charles

Flounce aborted!

149 celticdragon  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:49:28pm

re: #139 Charles

Now posted in the comments at Hot Air:


Charles, this is actionable libel.

150 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:49:41pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually it's fairly common (ok, typical then) in all sorts of extremist groups. Regardless of their place on the political spectrum. (I think the "nationalist" movement in many european countries have been through this process repeatedly since nobody is quite aryan enough).

Which makes you wonder. Have the GOP turned into party of extremists? Surely not. But still, the moderates are leaving and no wonder. Hmm. (Sorry, this post really makes no sense but it's sort of stream of consciousness, always a good excuse)

151 abbyadams  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:49:53pm

re: #147 Fenway_Nation

It could be "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." Could be worse.

152 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:49:55pm

Good Evening LGF.
Are some elements of the MSM finally waking up to the severe damage they have inflicted on the electorate and the entire political process with their one-sided partisan reportage, or is it just my imagination?

153 avanti  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:50:25pm

re: #139 Charles

Now posted in the comments at Hot Air:

I thought calling any conservitve that was not whacked out a RINO, was a insult, but pedophile is takes the cake..

154 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:50:34pm

re: #139 Charles

Now posted in the comments at Hot Air:

Those HA commenters a pieces of shit.

re: #145 Charles

Pre-emptive block!

Lol. Do they not realize theirs plans are being monitored by vigilant lizards?

155 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:51:06pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Flounce aborted!

Is that called a 'de-flouncing'

156 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:51:13pm

re: #142 kirkspencer

The most typical end result is the destruction of the organization as it was.

So, are you saying they trample their own under their feet? Hmmm... perhaps the GOP really are dinosaurs:

Scientist: Dinos trampled after death by own kind

A vast collection of broken dinosaur bones unearthed in southeast Utah indicates they were smashed underfoot by other dinosaurs shortly after they died, according to paleontologists.

... sort of like the Tea Partiers after the GOP lost in 2008 ...

157 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:51:45pm

re: #152 Spare O'Lake

Good Evening LGF.
Are some elements of the MSM finally waking up to the severe damage they have inflicted on the electorate and the entire political process with their one-sided partisan reportage, or is it just my imagination?

What is your comment in reference too? What MSM awakening? Which elements? Is it me, or is your comment vague?

158 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:51:47pm

re: #152 Spare O'Lake

It's just your imagination- when would they ever cop to that?

159 redshirt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:51:51pm

re: #151 abbyadams

It could be "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." Could be worse.

That wasn't a bad movie really. Bond got married and his wife was immediately killed.
Very sad stuff. Lazenby was the most human Bond.

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:51:57pm

re: #44 Sharmuta

I've never liked hot air. I can hardly stand to read comments over there because the layout is terrible. And then there's the content of those pages- just ugly.

The misogyny is so thick, you could cut it with a knife. Why would any self-respecting woman want to join that site and spend time around such people?

My theory: because many women manage to convince themselves that they are not themselves the target of such misogyny if they can hang out with 'the boys', laugh at the jokes, and act like it's all right. I've had otherwise intelligent women tell me that they succeed at business, or are sucessful with men, because they can 'handle' the talk, and men think they're cool. It's disgusting, but I think it makes some women feel safer. If they convince themselves that it's OK to call the Senator a 'bitch', they feel less scared when someone calls them a bitch. Just means they're tough, right?

161 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:52:19pm

re: #156 freetoken

Scientist: Dinos trampled after death by own kind

A vast collection of broken dinosaur bones unearthed in southeast Utah indicates they were smashed underfoot by other dinosaurs shortly after they died, according to paleontologists.

... sort of like the Tea Partiers after the GOP lost in 2008 ...

No, the dinosaurs were trying to get in to a Who concert.

162 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:52:29pm

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

It's just your imagination- when would they ever cop to that?

Cop to what, I can't even figure out what SOL is talking about?

163 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:52:57pm

re: #155 Pianobuff

Is that called a 'de-flouncing'

flounce-us interruptus ...

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:53:08pm

re: #45 bosforus

Isn't it kind of already in the smoldering stages?

I really think it's just a kitchen fire right now. It would help if people let the firemen work, and stopped striking matches and dropping them in the trash cans.

165 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:53:08pm

re: #159 redshirt

That wasn't a bad movie really. Bond got married and his wife was immediately killed.
Very sad stuff. Lazenby was the most human Bond.


and the worst, by several miles...a twofer!

166 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:53:17pm

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

Cop to what, I can't even figure out what SOL is talking about?

So you are denying it?
/

167 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:53:22pm

re: #161 Kosh's Shadow

No, the dinosaurs were trying to get in to a Who concert.

Dude you just seriously dated yourself!

168 sngnsgt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:53:42pm

re: #155 Pianobuff

Is that called a 'de-flouncing'

Or delousing maybe..?

169 RealismRox  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:53:53pm

I used to read Hot Air just for comedy value, some of the old Palin threads were really funny. Charles and KT exposing all the really bad ugliness right below the surface has made me feel like I don't even want to give Hot Air any traffic :/ Oh well, I always knew it was a bad bunch, the ODS has hit them hard. Allahpundit seems too smart for that place, but I guess he doesn't have the self-respect to go work somewhere else.

170 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:54:23pm

re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude you just seriously dated yourself!

Well, I'm 25 and got the reference. Does that mean I'm old now?:(
/

171 abbyadams  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:54:59pm

re: #159 redshirt

I'm afraid I'm a Bond watcher by default. Default of the husband, who likes to watch them. With the exception of Goldfinger, which I've seen about 100 times (literally,) I'm not really too much of a fan. I'll watch them for the gadgetry, and for help in understanding the Austin Powers movies, but that's about it. "Jaws" just stuck in my head, for some reason.

172 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:55:18pm

re: #161 Kosh's Shadow

No, the dinosaurs were trying to get in to a Who concert.

hahaha!

173 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:55:23pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Yes. You just turned an honorary 50. Congratulations. You may have some cake.

174 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:55:26pm

re: #139 Charles

Now posted in the comments at Hot Air:

Maybe this could be sorted out at a beer summit. I'm thinking a pony keg applied directly to the foreheads of Time Traveler and Aristotle (Aristotle, that's a hoot for a nic).

175 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:55:29pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Well, I'm 25 and got the reference. Does that mean I'm old now?:(
/

No, it means you pesky vorlons share a hive mind...

176 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:56:10pm

re: #160 SanFranciscoZionist

My theory: because many women manage to convince themselves that they are not themselves the target of such misogyny if they can hang out with 'the boys', laugh at the jokes, and act like it's all right. . . .

BINGO.

177 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:56:35pm

Hate mail now flowing in, of course.

178 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:56:39pm

re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude you just seriously dated yourself!

I never do that! My mother said I could go blind...

Actually, I've given other info that gives my approximate age.

179 jamie  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:56:48pm

This reminds me of the liberals who want to challenge guys like Ben Nelson from the left. In certain states you thank your lucky stars that you got a member of your party elected, gratefully take their vote on procedural matters, and let them do what they need to do to stay in office.

180 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:57:06pm

re: #169 RealismRox

Allahpundit seems too smart for that place, but I guess he doesn't have the self-respect to go work somewhere else.

I can't decide if I feel bad for him. He plays an Allen Colmes-like buffoon for the nutcases while feeding them a diet of Ron Paul and Glenn Beck. Maybe the paychecks are good, maybe that is who he is. I can't tell.

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:57:48pm

re: #112 albusteve

wait and see...there are millions of moderate conservatives out there, wait and see how they vote (if they do)

Yes, please do remember that moderate conservatives tend to post on different websites. Scrapbooking. Genealogy. Windsurfing. Childcare tips. That stuff. Present company excepted, sane people don't tend to go to fired-up political sites to post about how sane they are.

182 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:58:05pm

re: #178 Kosh's Shadow

I never do that! My mother said I could go blind...

Actually, I've given other info that gives my approximate age.

lol, and I know.

(admits he got the reference too)

183 Jamie  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:58:55pm

re: #177 Charles

Hate mail now flowing in, of course.

Ahhh, to go back to the good ol' days of LGF when all the hate mail accused you of being one of us hook-nosed, money-grubbin', war mongers.

184 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:59:29pm

re: #177 Charles

Hate mail now flowing in, of course.

Why because you outed the GOP lame site or the Hot Air lame site or the AGW thread or the harpie bashing... You've been a busy bee today.

185 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:59:52pm

Beer!

186 akarra  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 4:59:53pm

re: #169 RealismRox

I used to read Hot Air just for comedy value, some of the old Palin threads were really funny. Charles and KT exposing all the really bad ugliness right below the surface has made me feel like I don't even want to give Hot Air any traffic :/ Oh well, I always knew it was a bad bunch, the ODS has hit them hard. Allahpundit seems too smart for that place, but I guess he doesn't have the self-respect to go work somewhere else.

Same feeling here - the ugliness is so bad that even giving publicity makes me feel guilty. It doesn't look like with all sneers and anger that they're going to calm down anytime soon, and I wonder about that mindset - I mean, don't they realize that people who might be inclined to agree with them on some issues would be turned off by all the rage?

187 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:00:37pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I can't decide if I feel bad for him. He plays an Allen Colmes-like buffoon for the nutcases while feeding them a diet of Ron Paul and Glenn Beck. Maybe the paychecks are good, maybe that is who he is. I can't tell.

I've decided it's the paychecks. It's hard to resist good money, especially when the economy isn't in a place where finding a replacement job is easily done.

Sympathy meter at negative.

188 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:00:39pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Beer!

Is it 5 pm?
Not a minute before, now, Killgore.

189 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:00:50pm

re: #183 Jamie

I still need the hook nose- should I get some rhinoplasty done?

/

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:01:17pm

re: #144 iceweasel

OT: Stupid Nazi tricks:

[Link: www1.whdh.com...]

Police along with the Secret Service are investigating after a local country club discovered a symbol that represents eastern religious beliefs carved into the green.

Lakeville Country Club workers discovered the vandalism early Monday morning.

Police believe the vandals meant to carve a swastika next to President Barack Obama's name on the 18th hole; however, the symbol was backwards and means hope and peace in some Eastern countries.

Yeh. I'll buy that. Anyone got a bridge, while my wallet is out?

191 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:01:20pm

re: #79 enoughalready

Strangely though I liked Palin at first.

I was also naive enough to think that Obama would significantly move to the center.

Now we have a national shouting match.

I don't know who is to blame.

The citizenry in general, probably.

192 akarra  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:01:25pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

I heard something about beer.

*wants Shiner Bock*

193 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:01:46pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Campari !

194 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:01:48pm

I've heard plenty of criticism of republican politicians on this site. And much of it is justified. But I have not heard very many opinions of the good Republicans that can help rescue the party from the hole it is digging.

So which Republican guys or gals do "slightly right of center" Lizards really like? Who has potential to be a solid opponent for Obama in 3 years? Who has the right stuff to not only win the republican nomination, but also win the whole thing in November 2012?

The only one I see right now is the same guy I supported last time.

Mitt Romney.

195 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:02:21pm

re: #191 Ojoe

I was also naive enough to think that Obama would significantly move to the center.

He absolutely has.

196 lastlaugh  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:02:24pm

Charles How dare you post about them in your irrelevant blog that they read every day and respond to within hours.

//

On a serious note, Why on earth would you want a blog that only focused on major news stories? There's a zillion internet sites that do this. As far as I can tell, this is the pre-eminent conservative blog that's actively rallying against anti-intellectualism/anti-science sentiment in the right wing.

197 RealismRox  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:02:30pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

I've decided it's the paychecks. It's hard to resist good money, especially when the economy isn't in a place where finding a replacement job is easily done.

Sympathy meter at negative.

Or he just likes the power and fame that comes with the job. It'd be really hard for him to start over and get to the position he's in now.

198 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:02:48pm

re: #188 reine.de.tout

Is it 5 pm?
Not a minute before, now, Killgore.

I've noticed for a long time...that boy has boo coo discipline

199 akarra  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:03:31pm

re: #171 abbyadams

I always thought "From Russia With Love" was a very elegant, well-made movie. I can't watch it over and over again, of course, but it struck me as a cut above most of the other Bond stuff.

200 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:03:34pm

re: #194 _RememberTonyC

I've heard plenty of criticism of republican politicians on this site. And much of it is justified. But I have not heard very many opinions of the good Republicans that can help rescue the party from the hole it is digging.

So which Republican guys or gals do "slightly right of center" Lizards really like? Who has potential to be a solid opponent for Obama in 3 years? Who has the right stuff to not only win the republican nomination, but also win the whole thing in November 2012?

The only one I see right now is the same guy I supported last time.

Mitt Romney.

The problem is that the RR will never accept Romney. Not only that, but being slightly right of center = RINO!!11 in their eyes.

201 abbyadams  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:03:43pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Your best IPA!

202 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:04:19pm

re: #157 Walter L. Newton

What is your comment in reference too? What MSM awakening? Which elements? Is it me, or is your comment vague?

It is vague but it is a hopeful feeling I have had very recently.
I think that I've noticed some of the CNN shows have been bending over backwards lately to give both sides a chance to be heard, and for some of the hosts to at least go through the motions of impartiality. And very recently, I have even started to notice Fox making some very subtle moves to erect a bit of a wall between the purely partisan opinion stuff and the news shows.
It's a bit of a change in the atmosphere, perhaps.
Of course the blogosphere is another matter entirely.
Or maybe I'm totally out to lunch.

203 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:04:20pm

re: #199 akarra

I always thought "From Russia With Love" was a very elegant, well-made movie. I can't watch it over and over again, of course, but it struck me as a cut above most of the other Bond stuff.

oh man!...that was the movie R Shaw was in...not Dr No...my bad

204 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:04:40pm

re: #195 Charles

Well yes, more support for the Afghanistan effort being a case in point.

But the overspending keeps me from thinking "significant".

205 RealismRox  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:04:42pm

re: #200 Varek Raith

I like Romney, Lindsay Graham, Charlie Crist, McCain and Schwarzenegger.

206 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:05:49pm

Unbelievable. Here is Redstate's great plan for handling Olympia Snowe, via John Cole:

The moment I heard Snowe was going to vote for the bill, I began furiously refreshing Red State for the reaction. Finally, they deliver:

Pour Rock Salt on Snowe
Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

Olympia Snowe has sold out the country. Having been banished to our world after Aslan chased her out of Narnia, Snowe is intent on corrupting this place too.
So we should melt her.
What melts snow? Rock salt.
I’m going to ship this 5 pound bag of rock salt to her office in Maine. It’s only $3.00. You should join me.

That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

207 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:05:59pm

re: #200 Varek Raith

The problem is that the RR will never accept Romney. Not only that, but being slightly right of center = RINO!!11 in their eyes.

maybe in 18 months, some things will change and the sane people will be allowed back into the process. at any rate, i'm interested in who WE like and respect. what do you think about Romney?

208 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:06:07pm

re: #196 lastlaugh

Charles How dare you post about them in your irrelevant blog that they read every day and respond to within hours.seconds.

//

On a serious note, Why on earth would you want a blog that only focused on major news stories? There's a zillion internet sites that do this. As far as I can tell, this is the pre-eminent conservative blog that's actively rallying against anti-intellectualism/anti-science sentiment in the right wing.

One minor fix.

209 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:06:07pm

re: #106 Dona Quixote

Just so it doesn't come as a surprise, I thought I'd let you know that a variation on your nic was registered previously:

donna quixote

Karma: 14
Registered since: Jan 25, 2005 at 2:08 pm

No. of comments posted: 121
No. of links posted: 0

I remembered that because it's one of my favorite nics. I hope I get to see it more often now!

210 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:06:16pm

re: #194 _RememberTonyC

I think it's hard to discuss future leaders while the party is in disarray. Until the fisc-cons regain control, I'm not very hopeful about 2010 or 2012.

One of the few people I am keeping an eye on is Jon Huntsman, Jr. He's currently our new ambassador to China, and I think that will really help him on the international area of his resume. He's a former governor, pro-business, anti-tax, anti-ID, and pro-gay marriage. He's exactly the sort of modern conservative the party needs, but the existing machine within the machine won't have him. The party dynamics have to change before we'll ever get such a forward thinking republican nominated.

211 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:07:19pm

re: #191 Ojoe

I was also naive enough to think that Obama would significantly move to the center.

I was hoping, but not expecting.

212 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:07:35pm

re: #202 Spare O'Lake

It is vague but it is a hopeful feeling I have had very recently.
I think that I've noticed some of the CNN shows have been bending over backwards lately to give both sides a chance to be heard, and for some of the hosts to at least go through the motions of impartiality. And very recently, I have even started to notice Fox making some very subtle moves to erect a bit of a wall between the purely partisan opinion stuff and the news shows.
It's a bit of a change in the atmosphere, perhaps.
Of course the blogosphere is another matter entirely.
Or maybe I'm totally out to lunch.

Spare O'Lake - I noticed the same thing about CNN recently - I was watching CNN and NOT shouting at the TV. An odd moment for me.

213 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:07pm

re: #201 abbyadams

It's cold and windy tonight so I'm having Black Butte Porter.

214 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:14pm

re: #206 iceweasel

Unbelievable. Here is Redstate's great plan for handling Olympia Snowe, via John Cole:

The moment I heard Snowe was going to vote for the bill, I began furiously refreshing Red State for the reaction. Finally, they deliver:

That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

Rather sophomoric but then again what can only expect that from Erick Erickson and Red State. Just think. Many see both as the "future" of the GOP.

215 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:24pm

re: #191 Ojoe

Well, Palin was easy to like. At first. Fiery. Down to earth. And, excuse me, a really poor choice.

Also - I tend to think that Obama has moved significantly towards the center. I think the problem is that our perception of the center has moved since the weighting has shifted within the GOP (in the public discourse).

216 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:34pm

re: #205 RealismRox

I like Romney, Lindsay Graham, Charlie Crist, McCain and Schwarzenegger.

moderate, mature voices. McCain is too old and Arnold is not native born, so Crist, Graham, and Romney are your viable names. Thanks.

217 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:41pm

re: #189 Fenway_Nation

I still need the hook nose- should I get some rhinoplasty done?

/

I occasionally fantasize about getting a rhinoplasty to get a more 'Jewish' nose.

218 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:43pm

re: #210 Sharmuta

I think it's hard to discuss future leaders while the party is in disarray. Until the fisc-cons regain control, I'm not very hopeful about 2010 or 2012.

One of the few people I am keeping an eye on is Jon Huntsman, Jr. He's currently our new ambassador to China, and I think that will really help him on the international area of his resume. He's a former governor, pro-business, anti-tax, anti-ID, and pro-gay marriage. He's exactly the sort of modern conservative the party needs, but the existing machine within the machine won't have him. The party dynamics have to change before we'll ever get such a forward thinking republican nominated.

I could sear I read where he had no designs for the POTUS and that he was retiring from service after his stitch in China

219 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:08:46pm

re: #206 iceweasel

Unbelievable. Here is Redstate's great plan for handling Olympia Snowe, via John Cole:

The moment I heard Snowe was going to vote for the bill, I began furiously refreshing Red State for the reaction. Finally, they deliver:

That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

Wow.
That's gonna leave a mark.
/x10

220 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:09:00pm

re: #202 Spare O'Lake

It is vague but it is a hopeful feeling I have had very recently.
I think that I've noticed some of the CNN shows have been bending over backwards lately to give both sides a chance to be heard, and for some of the hosts to at least go through the motions of impartiality. And very recently, I have even started to notice Fox making some very subtle moves to erect a bit of a wall between the purely partisan opinion stuff and the news shows.
It's a bit of a change in the atmosphere, perhaps.
Of course the blogosphere is another matter entirely.
Or maybe I'm totally out to lunch.

Now I understand. I see this too, but I get the impression it's not due to anything but the reason they exist, to make money. It paid to run with a lot of Obama support, and as he waxes or wains, they will adjust and find where the dollars are. It's entertainment, nothing really more. Nero understood that, the games were where the population got their news and sports.

221 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:09:03pm

re: #188 reine.de.tout

I was about a minute early tonight.

222 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:10:15pm

re: #210 Sharmuta

I think it's hard to discuss future leaders while the party is in disarray. Until the fisc-cons regain control, I'm not very hopeful about 2010 or 2012.

One of the few people I am keeping an eye on is Jon Huntsman, Jr. He's currently our new ambassador to China, and I think that will really help him on the international area of his resume. He's a former governor, pro-business, anti-tax, anti-ID, and pro-gay marriage. He's exactly the sort of modern conservative the party needs, but the existing machine within the machine won't have him. The party dynamics have to change before we'll ever get such a forward thinking republican nominated.


Excellent point. Obama obviously saw him as a viable threat in 2012 which is why he appointed him to the Chinese post. Get him as far away from domestic politics as possible until Obama is safely reelected!

223 Dona Quixote  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:10:18pm

It is nice to find a website that seems to be moderated in a sane way. I used to read Politico and now can't go near the comments. As far as the opinion sites I found out during the campaign that there was no there there. Most of them were just hot for Palin, and they still are. I don't know if anyone is in charge any more in the Republican party. What exactly are its goals now anyway?

224 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:10:27pm

re: #221 Killgore Trout

I was about a minute early tonight.

the post, yes...you are slipping

225 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:10:28pm

re: #214 Gus 802

Rather sophomoric but then again what can only expect that from Erick Erickson and Red State. Just think. Many see both as the "future" of the GOP.

That's what so troubling. This is the best they can do?

226 fizzlogic  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:00pm

re: #185 Killgore Trout

Did you say beer?!

227 Bloodnok  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:05pm

re: #223 Dona Quixote

It is nice to find a website that seems to be moderated in a sane way. I used to read Politico and now can't go near the comments. As far as the opinion sites I found out during the campaign that there was no there there. Most of them were just hot for Palin, and they still are. I don't know if anyone is in charge any more in the Republican party. What exactly are its goals now anyway?

The word "no".

228 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:17pm

re: #206 iceweasel

Unbelievable. Here is Redstate's great plan for handling Olympia Snowe, via John Cole:

The moment I heard Snowe was going to vote for the bill, I began furiously refreshing Red State for the reaction. Finally, they deliver:

That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

Hey, what could possibly go wrong with sending a large quantity of a white powdery substance to a politician?

229 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:24pm

re: #215 enoughalready

He's got to reduce the deficits, they compromise our sovereignty, they are so large.

230 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:34pm

re: #212 reine.de.tout

Spare O'Lake - I noticed the same thing about CNN recently - I was watching CNN and NOT shouting at the TV. An odd moment for me.

I've seen the same from them. I believe CNN has actively worked at presenting a more balanced perspective in order to regain viewership.

231 eneri  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:42pm

now they publicly discuss civil war and child molestation? Have they ever heard the word libel?

232 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:11:42pm

The most humorous thing about the "burn down the GOP" comment is that now we see who the real Republicans In Name Only truly are.

233 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:12:32pm

re: #223 Dona Quixote

It is nice to find a website that seems to be moderated in a sane way. I used to read Politico and now can't go near the comments. As far as the opinion sites I found out during the campaign that there was no there there. Most of them were just hot for Palin, and they still are. I don't know if anyone is in charge any more in the Republican party. What exactly are its goals now anyway?

It would be to attempt to regain power by playing on the most base and ignorant fears of the redneck subculture of America.

234 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:12:44pm

re: #206 iceweasel

Unbelievable. Here is Redstate's great plan for handling Olympia Snowe, via John Cole:

The moment I heard Snowe was going to vote for the bill, I began furiously refreshing Red State for the reaction. Finally, they deliver:


That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

I'm thinking. Get back to you on that one, OK?

235 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:12:58pm

re: #230 Sharmuta

I've seen the same from them. I believe CNN has actively worked at presenting a more balanced perspective in order to regain viewership.

Ego... money. Works every time.

236 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:13:20pm

re: #232 Thanos

The most humorous thing about the "burn down the GOP" comment is that now we see who the real Republicans In Name Only truly are.

RINO reversitus...new species

237 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:13:22pm

re: #225 iceweasel

That's what so troubling. This is the best they can do?

Wait are they on the page now as future leaders?

238 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:13:30pm

Why the fascination with what other blogs are saying? Honestly my least favorite thing on any discussion board/blog is cross posting and blog wars. I don't go to those other sites for a reason. There is a fine line between keeping them honest and giving them air time.

I know it's not my blog and I can start one and run it the way I like...

All and all I like this place- and I'm not preparing to flounce. I'll get off the soapbox now.

239 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:13:35pm

re: #225 iceweasel

That's what so troubling. This is the best they can do?

It's been many years now so I wouls say yes, that's the best they can do. Just looking at the new GOP site and the fact that they immediately linked to a Facebook page and stuck it on the front page. No forward thinking whatsoever. Adding to this is a leadership that may also reflect the sophomoric tendencies of the right-wing blogs but are also determined to think: we are never wrong. That's the worst aspect of it. They don't listen at all to many forms of criticism.

240 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:14:21pm

Actually could someone explain the rock salt thing to me.. I just don't get it at all.

Is it a play on melting snow?

241 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:14:28pm

re: #195 Charles

He absolutely has.

I see a man who is willing to accept a centrist resolution to his preferred agenda. I think that I see a pragmatist, not a centrist. Just one man's perspective here of course.

242 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:14:39pm

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

Ego... money. Works every time.

I think they thought they'd go for the audience in between msnbc and fox.

Might pay off after awhile.

243 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:14:46pm

re: #233 LudwigVanQuixote

It would be to attempt to regain power by playing on the most base and ignorant fears of the redneck subculture of America.

quite the sweeping indictment

244 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:00pm

re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually could someone explain the rock salt thing to me.. I just don't get it at all.

Is it a play on melting snow?

Yes.

245 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:03pm

re: #222 _RememberTonyC

Or he was the best man for a challenging position. Not everything is necessarily nefarious. And in this case they both stand to gain. But it will have to be a very different GOP that backs him if/when the time comes.

246 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:20pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

MadisonConservative,
Enjoy the new comment policy at Hot Air banning racial epithets. You're welcome.

Methinks that one doesn't particularly care for HA's new policy (even though, for the most part, it's just gone from "everything out in the open" to "say it in code and hope mods/LGF doesn't catch on" [a major fail])...

247 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:29pm

re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually could someone explain the rock salt thing to me.. I just don't get it at all.

Is it a play on melting snow?

I guess so... you have to slow down the cognition a bit to get some of these stunts.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:30pm

re: #227 Bloodnok

The word "no".

"The Lord has given us many words, and the greatest of these is 'no'."

--Ian Paisley, in the mind of Peter McCarthy

249 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:32pm

re: #242 Sharmuta

I think they thought they'd go for the audience in between msnbc and fox.

Might pay off after awhile.

I suspect it will.

250 SixDegrees  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:39pm

re: #228 Charles

Hey, what could possibly go wrong with sending a large quantity of a white powdery substance to a politician?

As someone from the Great White North who is intimately familiar with rock salt, let me correct your misperception: there is nothing powdery about it. It's more like pea gravel in consistency.

There's a vast rock salt deposit underneath much of southeastern Michigan, with vast artificial caverns from over a century of mining. The big mine downtown, once owned by Morton, recently reopened. A lot of museums around here have crystal samples, some the size of small cars, taken from the mines, although they've been closed to the public for years.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about any misunderstanding in this case. The stuff looks like rock salt, nothing sinister. I'm sure they're extremely familiar with it in Maine, as well.

251 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:15:55pm

re: #244 Sharmuta

Yes.

OK... I had to take an extra two shots of whisky to dumb down enough to see it.

252 enoughalready  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:16:04pm

re: #229 Ojoe

He's got to reduce the deficits, they compromise our sovereignty, they are so large.

That comment really only gave me a headache.

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:16:32pm

re: #231 eneri

now they publicly discuss civil war and child molestation? Have they ever heard the word libel?

Yes, but they think it's something you put on a jar of homemade preserves.

254 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:16:38pm

re: #228 Charles

Hey, what could possibly go wrong with sending a large quantity of a white powdery substance to a politician?

Heh. This should end well.

The teabags that were mailed to many people in Congress forced evacuations and other scares. Nico Pitney at the HuffPo:

Local reports indicate that the practice of mailing actual tea bags to legislators has repeatedly raised security concerns, and sometimes forced the evacuation of congressional offices in anthrax-like scares.

Wellplayed, RedState. Wellplayed.
*golfclap*

255 SixDegrees  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:16:48pm

re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually could someone explain the rock salt thing to me.. I just don't get it at all.

Is it a play on melting snow?

Yes. It's explained in the first post on the topic, above.

257 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:17:32pm

re: #245 enoughalready

Or he was the best man for a challenging position. Not everything is necessarily nefarious. And in this case they both stand to gain. But it will have to be a very different GOP that backs him if/when the time comes.

he was definitely qualified, no question of that. but it was also a master political stroke by Obama. You have to tip your cap to the POTUS for that appointment.

258 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:17:37pm

re: #246 talon_262

Methinks that one doesn't particularly care for HA's new policy (even though, for the most part, it's just gone from "everything out in the open" to "say it in code and hope mods/LGF doesn't catch on" [a major fail])...

The tactic they use now: they deliberately misspell words so they won't be caught by filters or searches. You can see that in my post above, where the cretin deliberately misspelled "bitch" as "b1tch".

259 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:17:40pm

re: #255 SixDegrees

Yes. It's explained in the first post on the topic, above.

southerners...

260 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:17:57pm

I am amazed at how much the AP and other outlets are straining to show the Snow vote as bipartisanship. One GOP vote out of a committee dominated by Dems and it's suddenly bipartisanship. What would they be saying about Lieberman or Zell Miller as they crossed party lines to vote with a solid Republican majority? (oh... yeah.)

261 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:18:49pm

re: #207 _RememberTonyC

maybe in 18 months, some things will change and the sane people will be allowed back into the process. at any rate, i'm interested in who WE like and respect. what do you think about Romney?

As of now, Romney is ok (Points deducted for showing up at that 'Values' summit). Though, I'm skeptical as to whether he can remain politically 'sane' over these long 18 months. I also liked Rudy, but that's not ever going anywhere...

262 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:19:17pm

re: #210 Sharmuta

Good post. I've been impressed with Huntsman also, but being overseas for this extended period doesn't give him much recognition at home (the reason he was picked, perhaps?) Remember what I've been saying all along however
Over 3 years out of ANY Presidential race, nobody knew who the "leader" of the party out of power (the last losing party) would be the next time around.

263 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:19:35pm

re: #258 Charles

The tactic they use now: they deliberately misspell words so they won't be caught by filters or searches. You can see that in my post above, where the cretin deliberately misspelled "bitch" as "b1tch".

W3ll I'll be D@mned! /

264 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:19:41pm

re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually could someone explain the rock salt thing to me.. I just don't get it at all.

Is it a play on melting snow?

Yes. Back East, they use rock salt on driveways and roads to melt the snow. They don't like Sen. Snowe (who they apparently equate with the White Witch of Narnia--ie, the mortal enemy of Aslan, the Christ figure, BTW), so they're going to melt her.

Interestingly, back when all the trouble was going on about the Marine recruiting station in Berkeley, some witchy-types showed up to cast a spell on the Marines, and some other activists showed up to use salt to spread a protective circle around the Marines and keep them safe from magic. But I thought that kind of thing only happened around here. Don't get me wrong, I adore the Bay Area, but we may not want to export our way of doing things to the whole country.

265 RealismRox  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:19:49pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

As of now, Romney is ok (Points deducted for showing up at that 'Values' summit). Though, I'm skeptical as to whether he can remain politically 'sane' over these long 18 months. I also liked Rudy, but that's not ever going anywhere...

Romney is very well controlled, he won't put his foot in his mouth or say anything that would ever risk his political future.

266 Dona Quixote  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:19:51pm

Which Romney? The one who ran for president or his identical mirror twin who was governor of Mass?

267 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:19:57pm

re: #256 Killgore Trout

5 Essential Green Living Skills Our Grandparents Knew

Growing up, green living would be defined as poor.

268 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:20:29pm

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Hey... when I went to school the girls had to take "home economics" which included of course two of the items on that list of yours (cooking from scratch, sewing). We boys of course took wood working and shop.

Something tells me that if you were to try and bring that back to schools today you'd run into some resistance...

269 Flyers1974  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:20:48pm

re: #222 _RememberTonyC

Excellent point. Obama obviously saw him as a viable threat in 2012 which is why he appointed him to the Chinese post. Get him as far away from domestic politics as possible until Obama is safely reelected!

Good point, but I have to question whether Huntsman would accept this post if he had serious plans to run in 2012.

270 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:21:05pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

As of now, Romney is ok (Points deducted for showing up at that 'Values' summit). Though, I'm skeptical as to whether he can remain politically 'sane' over these long 18 months. I also liked Rudy, but that's not ever going anywhere...

Rudy blew it with his poor strategy last time and i agree that he is not a viable nominee in the future. Romney is pretty much untainted and he remains a man who won the governor's job in the bluest of states as a Republican. No easy task!

271 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:21:18pm

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah I figured . I am also from back east. However, I was trying to think how it could possibly relate to any political things she was doing. Then I realized that no, it would more likely be a sixth grade sort of personal attack.

272 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:21:37pm

Yep, they're really doing a great job at GOP dot com.

Check this out.

273 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:21:39pm

re: #256 Killgore Trout

5 Essential Green Living Skills Our Grandparents Knew


We do those now. I don't ever see the need to buy seeds more than once. My whole yard is populated with one Rose Campion I purchased five years ago. Home grown produce is yummy and worth the work!

274 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:21:40pm

Too funny.

Michael Steele's blog has changed its name from "What Up?" to "Change the Game."

Yeah, that game has been changed, all right.

[Link: www.gop.com...]

275 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:21:50pm

re: #267 The Shadow Do

Growing up, green living would be defined as poor.

May our grand children be blessed with such poverty.

276 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:22:33pm

re: #271 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah I figured . I am also from back east. However, I was trying to think how it could possibly relate to any political things she was doing. Then I realized that no, it would more likely be a sixth grade sort of personal attack.

Yea, it was sort of a six grade type of personal attack... I don't know why they didn't just suggest that everyone send her a note saying "bite me?"

277 lastlaugh  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:09pm

re: #268 freetoken

Hey... when I went to school the girls had to take "home economics" which included of course two of the items on that list of yours (cooking from scratch, sewing). We boys of course took wood working and shop.

Something tells me that if you were to try and bring that back to schools today you'd run into some resistance...

Yeah, mostly from Junior high boys, though, that take Home Ec to meet girls.

278 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:11pm

re: #275 LudwigVanQuixote

May our grand children be blessed with such poverty.

Because they value the results not because they have to.

279 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:23pm

re: #269 Flyers1974

Good point, but I have to question whether Huntsman would accept this post if he had serious plans to run in 2012.

he said at the time that he could not say no when the Prez asked him to serve.

280 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:27pm

re: #276 Walter L. Newton

Yea, it was sort of a six grade type of personal attack... I don't know why they didn't just suggest that everyone send her a note saying "bite me?"

Indeed. It is much better than being passive aggressive and snarky :)

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:38pm

re: #271 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah I figured . I am also from back east. However, I was trying to think how it could possibly relate to any political things she was doing. Then I realized that no, it would more likely be a sixth grade sort of personal attack.

Thank goodness she's not Senator Snail. That would be really disturbing.

282 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:49pm

re: #278 DaddyG

Because they value the results not because they have to.

Alas it is both.

283 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:51pm

later Lizards ... have a good one!

284 Liberal Classic  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:23:58pm

Only fascism can save us from communism.

285 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:24:05pm

re: #262 sattv4u2

Good post. I've been impressed with Huntsman also, but being overseas for this extended period doesn't give him much recognition at home (the reason he was picked, perhaps?) Remember what I've been saying all along however
Over 3 years out of ANY Presidential race, nobody knew who the "leader" of the party out of power (the last losing party) would be the next time around.

Huntsman and anyone remotely similar to him are not going to win the nomination with the theo-cons holding the party in a death grip. Of course- the paleo-cons are also making a play for power, so there's that added element. It's really a mess at the moment, and we'll know better who we're looking at for potential leaders next year when the Congressional races begin.

286 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:24:08pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

Thank goodness she's not Senator Snail. That would be really disturbing.

Oh dear you are right.

287 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:24:17pm

re: #280 LudwigVanQuixote

Indeed. It is much better than being passive aggressive and snarky :)

Touche'... play again... of course we will... :)

288 RealismRox  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:24:30pm

re: #274 Charles

Well that is a slightly less outdated name. Didn't expect them to flush What Up down the memory hole so quickly.

289 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:24:46pm

re: #268 freetoken

Hey... when I went to school the girls had to take "home economics" which included of course two of the items on that list of yours (cooking from scratch, sewing). We boys of course took wood working and shop.

Something tells me that if you were to try and bring that back to schools today you'd run into some resistance...

My daughter asked to take a sewing class because she wants to be a designer. She was told she couldn't because it wasn't an elective in the college prep track.

Shop class should be required. That's where I learned to make a kerosine fueled potato gun with pvc and duct tape. We had a substitute that day.

290 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:25:01pm

re: #276 Walter L. Newton

Yea, it was sort of a six grade type of personal attack... I don't know why they didn't just suggest that everyone send her a note saying "bite me?"

Shipping rock salt ain't cheap! Hell, send an e-mail that says 'bite me'. Save a stamp.
/I like being snarky :)

291 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:25:03pm

re: #279 _RememberTonyC

he said at the time that he could not say no when the Prez asked him to serve.

my uncle was ambassador to a small Caribbean country in the sixties...he couldn't say no either

292 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:25:14pm

re: #273 DaddyG

The only thing on that list that I don't do is sewing. I buy thriftstore clothes and just wear them until the disintegrate.

293 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:26:24pm

re: #206 iceweasel

Unbelievable. Here is Redstate's great plan for handling Olympia Snowe, via John Cole:

The moment I heard Snowe was going to vote for the bill, I began furiously refreshing Red State for the reaction. Finally, they deliver:


That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

We can always send them cases of Summer's Eve or Massengill's...

///

294 Jamie  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:27:09pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I can't decide if I feel bad for him. He plays an Allen Colmes-like buffoon for the nutcases while feeding them a diet of Ron Paul and Glenn Beck. Maybe the paychecks are good, maybe that is who he is. I can't tell.

I'm unsympathetic. It's easy to cater to the nutjobs, it's far more difficult to condemn nuts on both sides. Think of how much less shit Charles would be taking if he threw his lot in with the Gellers and Spencers of the world.

295 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:27:16pm

BTW, remember that BBC about "What happened to global warming" that the skeptics and deniers have linked here many times? As this Great Beyond blog entry points out:

[...]

The BBC quotes Piers Corbyn from weather forecasting company Weatheraction and Don Easterbrook of Western Washington University. Both cast doubt on the widely held consensus view that human activity is driving changes in climate.

Corbyn and Easterbrook are both global warming deniers / sceptics and both have been publicising their doubts for some time (see the references on their Wikipedia entries for more). Without commenting on the merits of their arguments, it is clear that it is slightly disingenuous to use the views of these two men to claim as the BBC does that “It seems the debate about what is causing global warming is far from over. Indeed some would say it is hotting up.”

[...]

To summarise then: two scientists who have previously said they didn’t believe in global warming still don’t believe in global warming.

In other words, just business as usual.

Oh, and of course that blog immediate attracts the denier army of armchair scientists... it would be humorous if it weren't so sad.

296 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:27:26pm

re: #285 Sharmuta

Huntsman and anyone remotely similar to him are not going to win the nomination with the theo-cons holding the party in a death grip. Of course- the paleo-cons are also making a play for power, so there's that added element. It's really a mess at the moment, and we'll know better who we're looking at for potential leaders next year when the Congressional races begin.

The telling point will be AFTER the congressional 2010 race is done. Once the GOP sees what "stripe" of conservative the people accept and which ones are tossed aside will determine the direction for 2012. There'll always be the Ron Pauls et al hanging around, but cumulatively they won;t get 15% of the delegates

297 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:27:40pm

How about we do it the old fashioned way and vote their big government butts out in the next election cycle? We need more civics classes.

298 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:28:27pm

re: #275 LudwigVanQuixote

May our grand children be blessed with such poverty.

Spoken by one who probably never spent hour after hour planting, weeding, thinning and hoeing a great big garden because it would save a few bucks. This also does not count the hours and hours spent by my mother boiling, prepping, canning, etc.

Nice way to go if you are an afficiando of fresh home produce. Sucks if you must do all the work. Trust me on this one. Thank God for cans and grocery stores.

299 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:28:37pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

The only thing on that list that I don't do is sewing. I buy thriftstore clothes and just wear them until the disintegrate.

We're getting our school uniforms from a new source this year. It's cheap, and the material will wear for a couple hundred years (I swear, it's made out, I don't know, the stuff they make shockcord out of), but the sewing is lousy, and the thread is terrible quality. One of the moms came in to discuss this with our dean, and then explained cheerfully that she was OK, because she was just going to rip the pants apart and redo all the seams on her machine.

We're seeing if she wants to bring her machine to school. The parents have to do volunteer hours, and we think she'd get a lot of business.

300 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:29:32pm

re: #298 The Shadow Do

Spoken by one who probably never spent hour after hour planting, weeding, thinning and hoeing a great big garden because it would save a few bucks. This also does not count the hours and hours spent by my mother boiling, prepping, canning, etc.

Nice way to go if you are an afficiando of fresh home produce. Sucks if you must do all the work. Trust me on this one. Thank God for cans and grocery stores.


True. But after factoring labor and supplies there is nothing that tastes like a $50 lb. tomato.

301 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:29:59pm

re: #298 The Shadow Do

Spoken by one who probably never spent hour after hour planting, weeding, thinning and hoeing a great big garden because it would save a few bucks. This also does not count the hours and hours spent by my mother boiling, prepping, canning, etc.

Nice way to go if you are an afficiando of fresh home produce. Sucks if you must do all the work. Trust me on this one. Thank God for cans and grocery stores.

It sucks less than contagion, starvation, lack of fresh water, food riots, loss of your home and general collapse of civilization.

302 Flyers1974  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:06pm

re: #279 _RememberTonyC

he said at the time that he could not say no when the Prez asked him to serve.

I'm sure there are politicians/others who wouldn't turn down any POTUS request to serve, and Huntsman may be one of those kinds of people. On the other hand, the "I can't say no to the President" has been used before.

303 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:09pm

Someone named "ZombieReagan" is over there trolling RedState about their rock salt idea. spacejesus, is that you?

ZombieReagan Tuesday, October 13th at 4:29PM EDT (link)
YEAH, SHE SMELLS LIKE FARTS!
LET’S GIVE HER A WEDGIE AFTER HOMEROOM, TOO!

Butthurt ensues.

304 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:11pm

re: #297 DaddyG

How about we do it the old fashioned way and vote their big government butts out in the next election cycle? We need more civics classes.

I would really like to see that actually. An entirely new House composed of nothing but incoming Representatives. That would be fascinating to watch develop, as all the former power brokers would be gone on both the left and the right. I don't think we'll ever see it happen. Oh, well- we can dream.

305 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:19pm

re: #298 The Shadow Do

Trust me.

306 Dona Quixote  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:26pm

Thanks everyone for making me feel less lonely (politically) and good night.

307 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:50pm

re: #306 Dona Quixote

Thanks everyone for making me feel less lonely (politically) and good night.

Good night!

308 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:56pm

re: #306 Dona Quixote

Thanks everyone for making me feel less lonely (politically) and good night.

Be well and welcome.

309 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:30:58pm

re: #301 LudwigVanQuixote

It sucks less than contagion, starvation, lack of fresh water, food riots, loss of your home and general collapse of civilization.

good grief!...where did that happen

310 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:31:07pm

re: #83 Cathypop

Dam it is getting freaky out there. I will continue to call my self a conservitive but will add "with an I.Q. above plant life"
Way above.

All part of the cycle of national politics. The movement is at present leaderless and rudderless, which isn't the same thing as being dead. I liked what someone once said, "To allow politics to become a cesspool, and then shun it because it is a cesspool, is a double crime."

311 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:31:31pm
“burning the GOP to the ground:”

Isn't that what they've been doing full-throttle for the past 8-10 months?

312 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:31:38pm

re: #309 albusteve

good grief!...where did that happen

It will happen if we do not change the path we are on in terms of AGW. That was the context.

313 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:33:09pm

re: #305 LudwigVanQuixote

Trust me.

hahaha!...your ego reminds me of one of those 800 pound pumpkins!

314 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:33:10pm
315 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:33:15pm

re: #302 Flyers1974

I'm sure there are politicians/others who wouldn't turn down any POTUS request to serve, and Huntsman may be one of those kinds of people. On the other hand, the "I can't say no to the President" has been used before.

A nefarious plan to split the crucial Mormon vote in Utah and Wyoming. /

316 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:33:36pm

For the foodies...
The Farm-to-Table Chef for Busy New Yorkers: Sweet Deliverance

Check out some of his other videos. There's some really cool stuff there.

317 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:33:47pm

re: #313 albusteve

hahaha!...your ego reminds me of one of those 800 pound pumpkins!

Alright, then better said, don't trust me but do trust the data.

318 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:34:14pm

re: #314 GeorgetownPress

need sarc tags...

319 Flyers1974  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:34:27pm

re: #304 Sharmuta

I would really like to see that actually. An entirely new House composed of nothing but incoming Representatives. That would be fascinating to watch develop, as all the former power brokers would be gone on both the left and the right. I don't think we'll ever see it happen. Oh, well- we can dream.

Only to be replaced by new power brokers, however. Remember what happened to the 1994 incoming class.

320 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:35:11pm

re: #309 albusteve

good grief!...where did that happen

and it is happening now in Bangladesh.

321 Flyers1974  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:35:33pm

re: #315 DaddyG

A nefarious plan to split the crucial Mormon vote in Utah and Wyoming. /

Don't forget Colorado.

322 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:35:35pm

re: #295 freetoken

BTW, remember that BBC about "What happened to global warming" that the skeptics and deniers have linked here many times? As this Great Beyond blog entry points out:

In other words, just business as usual.

Oh, and of course that blog immediate attracts the denier army of armchair scientists... it would be humorous if it weren't so sad.

When I first read that BBC article I knew I saw the birth of the next big misinformation campaign. We'll be seeing this one tossed about for the next year or so. Ironically, it will be the anti-AGW crowd suddenly finding "new love" for the oft criticized BBC for their other coverage.

323 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:35:57pm

re: #301 LudwigVanQuixote

It sucks less than contagion, starvation, lack of fresh water, food riots, loss of your home and general collapse of civilization.

OMG

324 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:36:00pm

re: #317 LudwigVanQuixote

Alright, then better said, don't trust me but do trust the data.

It sucks less than contagion, starvation, lack of fresh water, food riots, loss of your home and general collapse of civilization.

325 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:36:03pm

re: #319 Flyers1974

Only to be replaced by new power brokers, however. Remember what happened to the 1994 incoming class.

Require all lobbysists to take a vow of poverty.

326 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:36:15pm

re: #64 redshirt

Almost, but not as cute.

Finally, a chance to share an observation that's been burning a hole in my pocket for quite some time: Photoshop Don Henley's face onto Glenn Frey's head, and you've got Charles. It's been driving me crazy, trying to figure out who Charles' photo reminded me of, until that hit me.

327 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:36:41pm

re: #319 Flyers1974

Only to be replaced by new power brokers, however. Remember what happened to the 1994 incoming class.

Fair point. However- the People are free to "vote the bums out" every two years. The problem is, We the People never follow through on this threat. If Congress was actually held accountable by the electorate, maybe we'd see a real shake-up in the power structure.

328 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:37:26pm
329 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:37:26pm

re: #324 albusteve

It sucks less than contagion, starvation, lack of fresh water, food riots, loss of your home and general collapse of civilization.

all speculation...

330 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:37:33pm

Chickenshitpundit Allahpundit says:

I haven’t said anything about him before and hope not to again. I used to love his blog; it’s what inspired me to start blogging, so I get no joy from squabbling with him. But the sneering about “wingnut blogs” was too much. I eat plenty of crap for being an atheist and taking occasional swipes at creationism myself. I criticize Palin and Glenn Beck when a lot of other conservative bloggers don’t. Who is he to accuse me of being some talking-point machine?

Allahpundit on October 13, 2009 at 6:55 PM

So the "sneering" about wingnut blogs was too much for AP's delicate sensibilities -- this is the guy who sat there and watched as they put LGF under the Left Wing column at Hot Air.

"Hypocrite" is too mild.

331 Gearhead  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:37:34pm

re: #326 The Sanity Inspector

Finally, a chance to share an observation that's been burning a hole in my pocket for quite some time: Photoshop Don Henley's face onto Glenn Frey's head, and you've got Charles. It's been driving me crazy, trying to figure out who Charles' photo reminded me of, until that hit me.

Stinky must be Joe Walsh

332 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:37:40pm

Bubble Toes

333 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:38:32pm

Every time I see delete I scroll real fast to see if it was something I said. Am I the only paranoid one here?

334 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:38:40pm

re: #323 The Shadow Do

re: #324 albusteve

Really seriously, if we do not change course as a civilization globally that is what we are heading towards. Everything that everyone does can help.

So when an article comes up of things we could do that would be better, it is not a sign of poverty.

And given what will come if things do not change, then I would hope that we did change and that our grandkids would be blessed by such poverty rather than the alternative of doing nothing.

335 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:39:04pm

GeorgetownPress: I get the sarcasm, but please stop posting that. The whole point of doing that is to get Google to index my name along with the term "child molester."

336 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:39:12pm

Note to GeorgetownPress.

Knock it off. Even with sarcasm tags that's over the top.

337 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:39:17pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

and it is happening now in Bangladesh.

500 million people packed into a flood plain has nothing to do with their environmental problems?...do you discount that?

338 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:39:29pm

re: #326 The Sanity Inspector

Please check in on Ludwig Mr. Sanity Inspector, I'm growing concerned.

339 Flyers1974  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:39:30pm

re: #310 The Sanity Inspector

All part of the cycle of national politics. The movement is at present leaderless and rudderless, which isn't the same thing as being dead. I liked what someone once said, "To allow politics to become a cesspool, and then shun it because it is a cesspool, is a double crime."

Agree completely. A few people here have pointed out the Dems were leaderless and rudderless a few short years ago and not for the first time. However, something happened to the GOP/conservatives that is not the usual ebb and flow of the parties.

340 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:40:29pm

Yet more examples of poor journalism:

REGION: Global warming can be delayed four decades, study finds

Abrupt and potentially deadly climate change can be delayed about 40 years without the need for enormously costly cuts in carbon dioxide emissions, according to a new study by a team including scientists at Scripps Institution of Oceanography.

Cutting back on non-CO2 contributors to climate change will push back the threshold for reaching a dangerous level of global warming, stated the study, published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Its authors include Mario Molina and Veerabhadran Ramanathan of the institution, part of UC San Diego. [...]

Note the bolded and italicized words I've highlighted.

Now, what does the actual paper say in its title and abstract:

Reducing abrupt climate change risk using the Montreal Protocol and other regulatory actions to complement cuts in CO2 emissions:

[...] We discuss strategies for short-lived non-CO2 GHGs and particles, where existing agreements can be used to accomplish mitigation objectives. Policy makers can amend the Montreal Protocol to phase down the production and consumption of hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) with high global warming potential. Other fast-action strategies can reduce emissions of black carbon particles and precursor gases that lead to ozone formation in the lower atmosphere, and increase biosequestration, including through biochar. These and other fast-action strategies may reduce the risk of abrupt climate change in the next few decades by complementing cuts in CO2 emissions.

Someone needs to tell the North County Times writer that "complementing" does not mean "without the need".

341 Gus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:40:58pm

The "donate" button at GOP dot com is out of scale.

342 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:41:05pm

re: #337 albusteve

No I do not. But you also don't get it. Of course flood plains are the first to get flooded out.

re: #338 The Shadow Do


The only people who aren't concerned are the insane ones.

343 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:41:06pm

re: #330 Charles

Who is he to accuse me of being some talking-point machine?

Heh, Then he proceeded to post a Ron Paul thread, A Glenn Beck thread and another Republican traitor Snowe thread. He's certainly hitting all the talking points.

344 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:41:07pm

Pamela Geller is freaking out (yes, again) about the Rifqa Bary decision (she has to go back to Ohio), calling it a "slow motion execution, sharia style."

What a raving freak.

345 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:41:46pm

re: #330 Charles

He's more interested in his paycheck than his principles. A coward for hire.

346 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:41:47pm

re: #339 Flyers1974

...something happened to the GOP/conservatives that is not the usual ebb and flow of the parties.

I think there is a coursening of the dialogue on both extremes. The GOP is out of power and that elevates teh krazy.

347 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:42:12pm

This was bound to happen sooner or later.If one does not march in lockstep with everything the talking points call for,one is then branded a traitor.What is sad is that so many of these so-called right wing blogs are so terrified of their own posters that they would attack charles as opposed to a writ of agree to disagree and leave it at that.

348 rwmofo  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:42:13pm
349 jaunte  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:42:48pm

re: #344 Charles

I suppose she didn't notice that mysterious lack of... what is it again... evidence of abuse?

350 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:43:07pm

re: #344 Charles

Pamela Geller is freaking out (yes, again) about the Rifqa Bary decision (she has to go back to Ohio), calling it a "slow motion execution, sharia style."

What a raving freak.

Will somebody be disappointed if she lives to be 18?

351 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:43:21pm

re: #340 freetoken

Someone needs to have these people properly educated. How typically American (as applies to those Americans who are morons) is the dream of losing weight without dieting or working out?

Sure we can fix AGW while still burning what we want!

Idiots.

352 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:43:33pm

If anyone thinks Allahpundit didn't know exactly what would happen in his comments when he posted that, there's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, cheap.

353 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:44:12pm

later lizards. I have a sekrit mission.

354 The Shadow Do  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:44:30pm

re: #342 LudwigVanQuixote

No I do not. But you also don't get it. Of course flood plains are the first to get flooded out.

re: #338 The Shadow Do


The only people who aren't concerned are the insane ones.

Build a teepee, grow a garden, become self sufficient. When you have that all worked out call me. Maybe we can then share said teepee. Hell, I'll even hoe the garden every other day, I have tons of experience.

355 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:44:46pm

re: #353 LudwigVanQuixote

later lizards. I have a sekrit mission.


Don't forget to put the seat down when you are done. Later!

356 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:44:48pm

These are not popsicle toes, they are monkey toes:

357 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:45:04pm

re: #344 Charles

Pamela Geller is freaking out (yes, again) about the Rifqa Bary decision (she has to go back to Ohio), calling it a "slow motion execution, sharia style."

What a raving freak.

you don't get it man, all muslims are evil murderers

358 albusteve  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:45:26pm

having 12 billion people swarming over the planet, competing for limited resources disturbs me alot more than the prospect of growing bananas in Georgia...it's a matter of numbers and perspective since nobody knows the result of creeping AGW

359 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:45:27pm

re: #352 Charles

Of course he knows.

It's all about blog hits.

Yellow journalism has always been the way to make money in "journalism" or "news". Serious work takes money, time, and doesn't sell as well.

HotAir has become the National Enquirer of political blogs.

360 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:45:30pm

re: #264 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. Back East, they use rock salt on driveways and roads to melt the snow. They don't like Sen. Snowe (who they apparently equate with the White Witch of Narnia--ie, the mortal enemy of Aslan, the Christ figure, BTW), so they're going to melt her.

While the salt does melt the snow, it also does horribly nasty things to the unprotected metal parts of vehicles that have to drive through the slushy aftermath. When it eats a hole through your floorboard, the people who poured the salt in the first place will still be standing there expecting your gratitude for saving you from the snow. That seems somehow appropriate.

361 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:46:19pm

re: #349 jaunte

Evidence...you don't need no stinking evidence!they're muslims, killing their own children for the family honor is required...
sad the shrieking harpy considers herself a good american...she doesn't even know the meaning.

362 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:46:56pm

re: #353 LudwigVanQuixote

have fun storming the castle!

363 Bloodnok  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:47:01pm
UPDATE at 10/13/09 5:33:49 pm:

Allahpundit warns the commenters:

Knock it off. Do it again and you’re banned.

Allahpundit on October 13, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Way to crack the whip there, AP. I'll bet you really, really mean it this time.

Do you think that as he was typing this several of his commenters placed a "Kick Me" sign on his back, shot spitballs at him and placed a tack on his chair?

He is like the stereotypical overwhelmed substitute teacher who has lost control of the class...again. This is the environment he created for himself. I hope he's enjoying it.

364 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:48:07pm

re: #349 jaunte

I suppose she didn't notice that mysterious lack of... what is it again... evidence of abuse?

This is a girl whose parents knew she wasn't practicing islam:

At home during dinner, over the past few years, she stopped speaking Tamil, her family's native language. Her family spoke Tamil to her, and she spoke English to them. When her grandparents called from Sri Lanka, her mother says, she spoke only "small, small words."

The Bary parents prayed five times a day. Rilvan did not. Neither did Rifqa.

In 2006, she made a baby sitting flyer that said she was Christian; in 2007, her father found in her room Rick Warren's Christian bestseller, The Purpose Driven Life.

This sometimes made her parents sad, but not mad, they say — their children were growing up in America, not Sri Lanka, so they understood.

365 Varek Raith  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:48:24pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

Way to crack the whip there, AP. I'll bet you really, really mean it this time.

Do you think that as he was typing this several of his commenters placed a "Kick Me" sign on his back, shot spitballs at him and placed a tack on his chair?

He is like the stereotypical overwhelmed substitute teacher who has lost control of the class...again. This is the environment he created for himself. I hope he's enjoying it.

Has he banned anyone since their new posting policies went into effect?
/not holding my breath.

366 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:48:44pm

re: #363 Bloodnok

wonder if the banned will start hot air 2 and complain how they were banned for nothing...mwahahahaha

367 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:48:49pm

re: #344 Charles

Pamela Geller is freaking out (yes, again) about the Rifqa Bary decision (she has to go back to Ohio), calling it a "slow motion execution, sharia style."

What a raving freak.

Elsewhere, it's being claimed that the family is here illegally, having overstayed a medical visa.

368 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:49:32pm

re: #106 Dona Quixote

Rockin' post!!! Wow. UpUpUp ding I hope this makes the top list

369 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:50:00pm

The last notable accomplishment listed at the GOP's new website happened in 2004.

And it's "vouchers" for schoolchildren, so they can attend private religious schools and be taught creationism. Yay, GOP!

370 Splatt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:50:02pm

I'm hypnotized by GOP.com. I can't look away.

371 Flyers1974  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:50:07pm

re: #327 Sharmuta

Fair point. However- the People are free to "vote the bums out" every two years. The problem is, We the People never follow through on this threat. If Congress was actually held accountable by the electorate, maybe we'd see a real shake-up in the power structure.

True. The difficulty in people holding congress accountable is that only the partisans know the "facts." Not facts as that word is usually defined, but in the sense that partisans have their own set of facts, at least. The middle, for example those who wait until the last minute to decide who they are supporting, can't agree on any set of principles a prerequisite to holding congress accountable, I think.

372 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:50:48pm

re: #364 Sharmuta

That same article really points out how loving the parents really are. They moved to the US so Rifqa could get an eye operation, they live beyond their means in a neighborhood they can't afford so their children can experience the good life and be in a good school.

373 Bloodnok  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:51:09pm

re: #366 Boondock St. Bender

wonder if the banned will start hot air 2 and complain how they were banned for nothing...mwahahahaha

"I logged out to go get dinner and when I logged back in my account was blocked!"

/I never get tired of that. And apparently neither do they.

374 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:51:16pm

re: #370 Splatt

I'm hypnotized by GOP.com. I can't look away.

Same here...although I am bummed about the Steele blog name change. The comments posted there are fascinating to me.

375 sagehen  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:52:11pm

re: #348 rwmofo

Congressman Wexler to resign for Obama Admin Post.

This guy is no centrist.

Wexler is perhaps best known for his early appearance on the Colbert Report. Noting that he was running unopposed, Colbert suggested "you can say anything, right? So finish this sentence: 'I like cocaine because...'" and he did.

It's a classic.

376 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:52:54pm

re: #375 sagehen

He was also the whiny guy complaining about hanging chads iirc.

377 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:54:04pm

re: #375 sagehen

wasn't wexler the bad guy from the "resident evil"video game franchise?

378 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:54:38pm

re: #372 Thanos

That same article really points out how loving the parents really are. They moved to the US so Rifqa could get an eye operation, they live beyond their means in a neighborhood they can't afford so their children can experience the good life and be in a good school.

Exactly. But Geller and Spencer are smearing them as potential murderers with absolutely no evidence, and despite lots of evidence to the contrary. This is what evil looks like.

379 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:54:45pm

re: #331 Gearhead

Stinky must be Joe Walsh

Who wouldn't want to be Joe Walsh?

380 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:54:53pm

Rifqa going home

381 BenghaziHoops  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:55:50pm

re: #373 Bloodnok

"I logged out to go get dinner and when I logged back in my account was blocked!"

/I never get tired of that. And apparently neither do they.

I'll admit the funniest post was when somebody claimed 'All I was doing was rubbing my dog's tummy and Charles banned me'
You can't buy that kind of Internet humor...

382 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:56:14pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

and it is happening now in Bangladesh.



It sucks less than contagion, starvation, lack of fresh water, food riots, loss of your home and general collapse of civilization.

It's been "NOW" in Bangladesh for decades!

383 sagehen  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:56:38pm

re: #360 negativ

While the salt does melt the snow, it also does horribly nasty things to the unprotected metal parts of vehicles that have to drive through the slushy aftermath. When it eats a hole through your floorboard, the people who poured the salt in the first place will still be standing there expecting your gratitude for saving you from the snow. That seems somehow appropriate.

It's really bad for dogs' feet, too. People have to dress them in puppy-socks when they take them out in the winter, I try not to laugh.

384 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:56:58pm

I'm still trying to get over how very RED the GOP.com site is... red... how subliminal?

385 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:57:13pm

re: #378 Charles

Exactly. But Geller and Spencer are smearing them as potential murderers with absolutely no evidence, and despite lots of evidence to the contrary. This is what evil looks like.

Yes it is. Evil always professes to have some else's best interests in mind when they mangle families and lives.

386 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:57:22pm

re: #378 Charles

That is what extreme hatred or irrational fear looks like as well.people like geller exacerbate problems not solve them

387 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:58:22pm

Rifqa is the anti-jihad movement's Schiavo.

388 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:58:46pm

re: #381 HoosierHoops

oh no!charles wouldn't ban someone for skritchin'kitties would he...not that i would do that...(down cheddar...)

389 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:59:07pm

re: #349 jaunte

I suppose she didn't notice that mysterious lack of... what is it again... evidence of abuse?

The parents are Muslims! Other people who are also Muslims have killed their daughters! Case closed! What more evidence do you WANT?!!!

///If these people turn out to be the perfect stealth daughter-murderers, I'm going to regret having been this flip.

390 Bloodnok  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:59:52pm

re: #381 HoosierHoops

I'll admit the funniest post was when somebody claimed 'All I was doing was rubbing my dog's tummy and Charles banned me'
You can't buy that kind of Internet humor...

I'll vote for that one too. I'd never heard that one!

391 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 5:59:56pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

Will somebody be disappointed if she lives to be 18?

I think they'll just attribute it to God's intervention, and we'll be good.

392 Splatt  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:00:09pm

re: #374 bratwurst

What kills me about GOP.com is that 9 of the 16 "Republican Heroes" are black (including one, "Pinckney Pinchback" Republican Governor of Louisiana for all of 35 days, who, according to Wikipedia, was elected to both houses of Congress, but couldn't get members of either party to seat him.)

Do you think they're trying to tell us something? I have the feeling they're trying to tell us something, but I can't quite make it out. It's like someone trying to talk underwater.

Maybe they think if they put up stuff like that on the website, people won't notice that their "base" is showing up at rallies with pictures of our President with a bone in his nose.

393 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:00:53pm

re: #389 SanFranciscoZionist

you should never regret giving benefit of the doubt when it is so obviously warranted.

394 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:00:58pm

re: #391 SanFranciscoZionist

I think they'll just attribute it to God's intervention, and we'll be good.

They'll rationalize it by saying if they hadn't made such a big deal of it that she would have been murdered. I can already see that coming.

395 GeorgetownPress  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:01:10pm

re: #335 Charles

Understandable. My apologies.

396 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:01:46pm

re: #384 freetoken

I'm still trying to get over how very RED the GOP.com site is... red... how subliminal?

?

397 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:02:15pm

re: #396 TheMatrix31

beck will get right on it!

398 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:02:42pm

re: #396 TheMatrix31

read COMMIES!!!

399 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:03:03pm

re: #392 Splatt

What kills me about GOP.com is that 9 of the 16 "Republican Heroes" are black (including one, "Pinckney Pinchback" Republican Governor of Louisiana for all of 35 days, who, according to Wikipedia, was elected to both houses of Congress, but couldn't get members of either party to seat him.)

Do you think they're trying to tell us something? I have the feeling they're trying to tell us something, but I can't quite make it out. It's like someone trying to talk underwater.

Maybe they think if they put up stuff like that on the website, people won't notice that their "base" is showing up at rallies with pictures of our President with a bone in his nose.

One of Michael Steele's Sisyphean goals is to get more Urban blacks involved in the Republican party, and more youth. Our bench is drying up so I salute that direction if not the way it was executed.

400 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:03:10pm

re: #396 TheMatrix31

The use of color is important.

401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:03:45pm

*Wades in arms flailing wildly*

Hey, buds.

Don't like the idea of physical threats in the arena of ideas.

402 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:05:04pm

re: #400 freetoken

Couldn't it be that they use red because there are red states and blue states?

403 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:07:25pm

re: #128 reine.de.tout

There was a character named "Jaws" in a couple of bond movies, I think - huge guy with metal teeth.

Richard Kiel was the actor...one of the "good" characters he did was as one of the cons in the original The Longest Yard.

/"I think I broke his fucking neck!"

404 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:00pm

re: #381 HoosierHoops

I'll admit the funniest post was when somebody claimed 'All I was doing was rubbing my dog's tummy and Charles banned me'
You can't buy that kind of Internet humor...

"I was just minding my own business when my cat ran across my keyboard, and its paws spelled out "I HATE YOU ALL AND I'M GOING TO THE STALKER BLOG".

Next thing you know, that big meanie banned me!"

405 Ayeless in Ghazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:20pm

re: #373 Bloodnok

"I logged out to go get dinner and when I logged back in my account was blocked!"

/I never get tired of that. And apparently neither do they.

Heh. Reminds me of another one : "I had a timeout?...I never noticed...I was just busy this last week is all"

406 freetoken  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:23pm

re: #402 TheMatrix31

Well, yes, but...

1 - it is over the top;
2 - red is a means of communicating both violence and eroticism.

407 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:28pm

re: #367 The Sanity Inspector

Elsewhere, it's being claimed that the family is here illegally, having overstayed a medical visa.

That's possible, but it doesn't change the custody situation.

408 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:09:42pm

re: #406 freetoken

Talk about reading way too much into it.

409 oldegeezr  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:09:58pm
“Meanwhile, now the Hot Air commenters are directing their ugly remarks at me, naturally:”

Charles, they can dish ’er out but they can’t take it…!

When you even casually refer to one of their rotund icons correctly, honestly and appropriately as a former doctor shopper and drug addict, they drop the ban hammer on yer boney backside.

We’ve got yer back here sir…
Carry on…!

410 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:10:24pm

re: #383 sagehen

It's really bad for dogs' feet, too. People have to dress them in puppy-socks when they take them out in the winter, I try not to laugh.

Better to look silly than have your dog's feet all messed up, I suppose. That must look pretty silly, though.

411 Ayeless in Ghazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:11:31pm

re: #404 iceweasel

"I was just minding my own business when my cat ran across my keyboard, and its paws spelled out "I HATE YOU ALL AND I'M GOING TO THE STALKER BLOG".

Next thing you know, that big meanie banned me!"

"You won't believe this. I hadn't even posted. All I did was sit there furiously downdinging all the evul commie posts all day and the next thing you know - I was banzored!"

412 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:12:53pm

re: #399 Thanos

One of Michael Steele's Sisyphean goals is to get more Urban blacks involved in the Republican party, and more youth. Our bench is drying up so I salute that direction if not the way it was executed.

It's not a bad goal, but it's a goal that is almost certainly going to include some very funny misfires as they attempt to work toward it.

413 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:15:43pm

re: #402 TheMatrix31

Couldn't it be that they use red because there are red states and blue states?

Makes sense. You just want to be careful with red, it's a tricky color on the eyes.

414 webevintage  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:16:19pm

re: #206 iceweasel

That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

OK, I still not figured this out.
Are they inferring she is a slug or a snal?

(this makes me think of the episode of Sunny in Philly and Charlie throwing the salt at Gail the Snail and yelling "SALT THE SNAIL"...too funny.)

I'll admit I don't get this.
Maybe they are just morons?
Or it could be I don't get this because it makes No.FREAKING.SENSE.

415 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:17:44pm

re: #414 webevintage

That is right, folks. To show unhappy they are, they are going to ask you to buy rock salt through their amazon store and mail it to Olympia Snowe. They don’t call them the Red State Strike Farce for nothing.

Seriously, how do I make a joke about this?

OK, I still not figured this out.
Are they inferring she is a slug or a snal?

(this makes me think of the episode of Sunny in Philly and Charlie throwing the salt at Gail the Snail and yelling "SALT THE SNAIL"...too funny.)

I'll admit I don't get this.
Maybe they are just morons?
Or it could be I don't get this because it makes No.FREAKING.SENSE.

She's Senator Snowe. Salt melts snow. Salt melts Snowe. Geddit? Geddit?

I don't think this one is going to work. Just a hunch.

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:18:14pm

re: #414 webevintage

I have recently started watching "Always Sunny".

What a messed up, fantastic show.

417 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:18:23pm

re: #414 webevintage

Um. It's really not that hard to figure out.

Rock salt melts snow. Her name is Olympia Snowe.

NOT that difficult.

418 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:18:26pm
419 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:21:37pm

re: #416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Salt the Snail!

420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:21:48pm

re: #418 Snickelfritz

See ya at the next open registration!

421 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:21:52pm

re: #418 Snickelfritz

lame flounceage

422 webevintage  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:22:00pm

re: #415 SanFranciscoZionist

She's Senator Snowe. Salt melts snow. Salt melts Snowe. Geddit? Geddit?

I don't think this one is going to work. Just a hunch.

hahahahaha
All I could think of was snails and slugs...

(and while I could say "woosh, that went right over my head" all I got is...Oh, for heaven's sake, that is so fucking LAME.)

423 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:22:07pm

re: #419 TheMatrix31

hahahahahaha!

424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:23:46pm

re: #417 TheMatrix31

Um. It's really not that hard to figure out.

Rock salt melts snow. Her name is Olympia Snowe.

NOT that difficult.

Occum's Razor shouldn't have to be considered in humor.

425 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:23:58pm

re: #418 Snickelfritz

I'm sure Charles will honor your request, since you so politely asked. It's not as if you're made any real contributions here anyway, Mr. 3-Posts...

/tell Daddy Charles how much you hate him...dipshit

426 Merryweather  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:23:58pm

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. First of all, who the hell is supposed to be Aslan in that stupid Narnia metaphor? Secondly, it's the Wicked Witch of the West who melts, not the White Witch. But then knowing that would have required Erick to actually read a book. Oh and good luck getting all that salt past Senate security. I'm sure they'll really appreciate having their time wasted by a juvenile prank.

God, the idiocy of these people astounds me.

427 webevintage  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:26:00pm

re: #426 Merryweather

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. First of all, who the hell is supposed to be Aslan in that stupid Narnia metaphor?


The best comment over on Balloon Juice?
But who’s the dude that’s half-goat?

428 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:32:17pm

re: #116 Thanos

Then there was that thing where we let the Democrats go from the luddite party to the party who believes there is a future while our pundits are preaching doom.

I'd upding you if I could, but alas and alack, I am still a lowly hatchling.

My entire, very large, and extended family fit that mold to perfection, why try to make peace, when the bible says there will be war? Why attempt to protect the environment, when Jesus is coming for us any day now? Why worry about the fossil fuels running out eventually, if we need more God will make more, right? Evolution is just a giant conspiracy being directed by the devil himself to take away our faith in the in-errancy of the bible, you surely don't believe those lies do you? Climate change is a cynical plot by the one world government supporting socialists to destroy our businesses and economy, can't you see the truth? Sigh... :(

They literally live for the day when the rapture comes, it is seemingly their only goal or wish in life. Bible prophecy says that the world will continue to go to shit, and then culminate in the ultimate shittiness of the one world government under the "anti-christ" before it's destruction. Why even worry about "material" things (excepting your own wealth of course), work towards peace with anyone, or attempt to compromise or work with anyone not a member of your belief system to improve things? They firmly and truly believe this is going to happen tomorrow if not sooner and there is no way to reason with them about it.

They are the new face of the GOP courtesy of the culture wars and the politicization of the church, and I have no clue how to change it. Hell I can't even get my own family to listen to reason...

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:35:03pm

re: #428 ausador

But I can up-ding you.

430 jaunte  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #428 ausador


They literally live for the day when the rapture comes, it is seemingly their only goal or wish in life. Bible prophecy says that the world will continue to go to shit, and then culminate in the ultimate shittiness of the one world government under the "anti-christ" before it's destruction.


It's interesting that a lot of people who appear to believe this don't get more actively engaged in the political parties that (they think) are doing the most to bring this about.

431 RealismRox  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:38:16pm

re: #428 ausador

A lot of my co-workers are like this ... My parents raised me an atheist, but in their older age have become crazy right-wingers. I ate dinner with them earlier tonight, my parents were discussing impeaching Obama and trying him for treason for his diplomacy with Russia. It drives me nuts, and the conversation has been uglier than this in the past.

Don't know what my point is exactly, but you don't need to be religious to be as stubbornly irrational about politics.

432 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:41:12pm

re: #268 freetoken

Hey... when I went to school the girls had to take "home economics" which included of course two of the items on that list of yours (cooking from scratch, sewing). We boys of course took wood working and shop.

Something tells me that if you were to try and bring that back to schools today you'd run into some resistance...

I took home ec, art, and wood shop as electives when I was in jr. high, and that was in 1989 or so. Obviously I wasn't complaining about the art class, but the home ec section was pretty fun! We hung out, sewed pillows, baked pies and listened to Guns 'n Roses. Ahh, memories. I did worst in wood shop, I just did not envision a garage full of power tools in my future and it showed in my D grade.

I always figured a home economics class should actually teach some ECONOMICS as well. How interest rates work, the basics of investing, saving, and credit cards, and so on.

433 sagehen  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:46:27pm

re: #268 freetoken

Hey... when I went to school the girls had to take "home economics" which included of course two of the items on that list of yours (cooking from scratch, sewing). We boys of course took wood working and shop.

Something tells me that if you were to try and bring that back to schools today you'd run into some resistance...


That was the standard at my junior high until I got there (1971). I made a big fuss about not wanting to do housework, reminded mom that when she bought me a sewing machine I'd taken it apart and rebuilt it with faster pedal action, so she went to bat for me with the principal. The school gave in (maybe because mom was a scary scary lawyer).

The boys in my woodshop class were not nearly so enlightened; every day after I left, they'd take all the nails out of my projects and scuff up the stuff I'd been sanding.

But by the next year, policy was that every kid got to choose whether to take home ec or shop, as long as they took one. Some kids took both. It was an empowering experience for me.

434 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:46:52pm

I hope Allahpundit DID end up banning those posters. What's the Humphrey quote? "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." Case in point, internet commenters. More precisely, these lunatic posters at the right wing blogs.

But it goes without saying it applies to the kossacks as well.

435 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:52:14pm
436 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:53:24pm
437 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:55:02pm

Buh bye now!

438 Coracle  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:55:50pm

Yowza. A double double flounce flounce.

439 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:56:28pm

re: #438 Coracle

That's because it's Twosday.

440 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:58:57pm

Twofer Tuesday!

441 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:02:43pm

re: #434 wiffersnapper

I hope Allahpundit DID end up banning those posters. What's the Humphrey quote? "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." Case in point, internet commenters. More precisely, these lunatic posters at the right wing blogs.

But it goes without saying it applies to the kossacks as well.

He didn't. They continued to post in that thread.

442 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:22:21pm
443 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:41:24pm

It's a flounce-a-palooza in this thread.

444 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:42:25pm

Somewhere a drawer is missing three socks.

445 Tbird1107  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:55:16pm

I've been registered here for many years and used to post almost daily. Work has (much out of country) kept me busy for the last 2-3 years. I have read the topics as I could. Opinions have always been varied here, but normally open minded. Some I agree with, some I don't. However, disagreeing shouldn't result in posts that resort to name calling and ridicule as the aforementioned blog allows. I still like to read the Capt's comments though.

446 MPH  Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:35:24pm

Olympia Snowe, my senator from Maine...

Look into her husband...former Maine governor, turned super-powered DC lobbyist.

447 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 4:41:18am

if identical comments to those appeared at the orange blog... how long would it take for Bill'O to jump up and down hyperventilating?...

448 MPH  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:33:21am

re: #195 Charles

He absolutely has.

To the center of what?

449 [deleted]  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:58:02am
450 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:01:37am

Buh bye!

451 califleftyb  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:15:13am

Maybe she and Joe Lieberman can now form their own political party.

Careful with that machete Charles - I'm standing too close!

452 [deleted]  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:43:09am
453 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:45:25am

I'm sure you'll be much happier without that LGF account - no need to thank me!

454 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:55:25am

ever get the feeling that you keep *just* missing something?...

i now own that place.

455 [deleted]  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 10:42:46am
456 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 10:43:28am

So long! Have fun storming the castle.

457 Yashmak  Wed, Oct 14, 2009 4:01:02pm

Charles, any chance of saving flounce-off comments in a special flounce-pedia?

I know some of them HAVE to be worth saving, just for their comic value.


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