Video: Chris Matthews Hammers Tea Party Birthers Phillips and Smith
Squirm, teabagger, squirm
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With the righteous hammer of justice. Tweety’s had it with these people, as have I.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:30:54pm |
"Flat Earth Society".
Fuck yeah. LOL.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:33:31pm |
the ROE's are off for this engagement...proceed
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:34:22pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:34:39pm |
Nice young men in clean white coats?
Projection.
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dragonfire1981 Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:34:47pm |
The right wing of today continues to astound me. A Conservative friend of mine has been teaching her 5 year old that the correct thing to do if President Obama shows up at the door is "get the gun."
She could not understand why I didn't think it was funny.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:34:56pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:34:56pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:35:58pm |
re: #7 dragonfire1981
I think your friend is terribly confused about conservatism.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:36:01pm |
re: #5 brookly red
whats a ROE?
this massive pillow fight needed some rules of engagement to maintain civility...they have been pulled, so feel free to towel snap your opponent
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:36:24pm |
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:37:15pm |
re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rules of Engagement.
oh, yeah... those are like laws or something.
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:37:43pm |
Wow, they start waxing philosophical, "what is truth? what is reality? what is a birth certificate?"
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:39:01pm |
re: #14 brookly red
oh, yeah... those are like laws or something.
No. They're rules governing the use of force in a combat situation, which may be considered lawful orders, but not necessarily laws.
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wiffersnapper Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:39:24pm |
We should hook these folks up to generators. The rate at which they're backpedaling is enough to power a small city.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:39:28pm |
re: #15 ralphieboy
Wow, they start waxing philosophical, "what is truth? what is reality? what is a birth certificate?"
"Who can say with 100% certainty?"
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Renaissance_Man Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:39:52pm |
re: #7 dragonfire1981
The right wing of today continues to astound me. A Conservative friend of mine has been teaching her 5 year old that the correct thing to do if President Obama shows up at the door is "get the gun."
She could not understand why I didn't think it was funny.
It never ceases to amaze me how utterly mean-spirited the modern American Conservative movement is. Their issues, their entertainment, their humour is positively soaked in bile.
It's one thing to be angry, and full of hate for other people. But to be so inured to that hate that hate and anger become funny for you is something else. The last time I remember people being so entertained by vicious mean-spiritedness was in my early teens, when all teenage males are basically like that. And now people with the mindset of those kids are changing the course of the world's only superpower.
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:40:57pm |
"Why are you pandering to paranoia? That's a fake laugh, sir."
Damn. When Matthews is good, he's damn good. Also, I love the nickname Tweety for him.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:41:31pm |
How long until the Birthers jump Obama for circumventing Hawaiian State law?
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:41:38pm |
re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No. They're rules governing the use of force in a combat situation, which may be considered lawful orders, but not necessarily laws.
I have this cool new flower that squirts water from my lapel, and a fart cushion...I pity the next birther that assaults me and I don't care how inhumane I act
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:41:44pm |
re: #19 Renaissance_Man
I admire America's culture of rugged individualism and self-reliance, but its slimy underbelly is that it often expresses itself as a brutal disregard for people outside one's immediate ethnic/political/religious affiliation.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:42:08pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:42:12pm |
re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How long until the Birthers jump Obama for circumventing Hawaiian State law?
Apparently, as demonstrated in this interview, their bitching point is "He could have done this 2 years ago, why now?!"
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:42:55pm |
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Randy W. Weeks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:43:09pm |
Somebody needs to bitch-slap that smarmy Arizona state sen.
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:43:17pm |
re: #25 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Especially as he had nothing better to do with his time than to address our mindless, fabricated concerns!
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:43:42pm |
re: #25 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Apparently, as demonstrated in this interview, their bitching point is "He could have done this 2 years ago, why now?!"
The fact that Democrats refuse to stop us making jackasses of ourselves is proof that they won't work in a bipartisan manner!/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:44:00pm |
re: #27 LoneStarSpur
Arizona can generate more smarm than we can slap, hahaha
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:44:08pm |
re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
What is this snarky you speak of?
it's complicated... stand by & I will see if I can show you :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:44:32pm |
re: #29 iceweasel
The fact that Democrats refuse to stop us making jackasses of ourselves is proof that they won't work in a bipartisan manner!/
Trolling the field!
It's not even 2012 yet!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:45:12pm |
Gawd this birther stuff is childish and tiresome.
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:45:37pm |
re: #32 WindUpBird
Trolling the field!
It's not even 2012 yet!
Just imagine what we have to look forward to!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:45:43pm |
re: #25 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Apparently, as demonstrated in this interview, their bitching point is "He could have done this 2 years ago, why now?!"
They're going to deliberately ignore the fact that he had to seek an exception to the rules, one that was only granted because of their incessant lying bullshit.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:45:53pm |
re: #31 brookly red
it's complicated... stand by & I will see if I can show you :)
I wait with baited breath, though a quick googling of the subject has indicated the complete lack of snark may in fact be interpreted as snark if done in the proper manner.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:46:35pm |
re: #32 WindUpBird
Trolling the field!
It's not even 2012 yet!
See me trolling,
They hating,
Can't they see that I'm blogging dirty.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:46:44pm |
re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth
Gawd this birther stuff is childish and tiresome.
no FUCKING shit....the left is sounding as ridiculous as the right
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:47:00pm |
re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I wait with baited breath, though a quick googling of the subject has indicated the complete lack of snark may in fact be interpreted as snark if done in the proper manner.
I you want to get all Zen on me the drone is gassed up ...
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thecommodore Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:47:27pm |
Once again, birthers are the gift that keep on giving.
Con artists who keep pushing this are one thing because they stand to gain from it. But to be a true believer?
O!
M!
G!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:47:30pm |
re: #34 iceweasel
Just imagine what we have to look forward to!
man, this is so much like the 90's
Obama killed Vince Foster!
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engineer cat Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:47:58pm |
Barbour's announcement surprised many Republicans who had expected the former Republican National Committee chairman to mount a serious campaign based on fiscal issues and the economy. His decision could open the door for Daniels, a hero to the anti-deficit wing of the party, a former pharmaceutical executive, and a George W. Bush budget director
perhaps if daniels runs he could explain why the bush medicare drug benefit mandates maximum profits for pharmaceutical executives like himself, and why he allowed a 3 trillion dollar blowout of the national debt as bush's budget director
just the person i'm looking for to explain these strange phenomena!
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:48:27pm |
"Nothing is ever 100% certain!"
I'd like to steal that guy's wallet, and then claim that he doesn't know I took it, because, hey, nothing's ever 100% certain.
Hey, AGW isn't 100% either. Just like 99.99% certain. So I guess that's why the GOP doesn't give a shit about it.
It's a perfect wingnut logic trap: they only accept things that are 100% certain, and no facts are 100% certain, so they can all believe what they want and they're not objectively wrong.
What fucktards.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:48:49pm |
I love watching them squirm.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:49:27pm |
re: #34 iceweasel
Just imagine what we have to look forward to!
Cannot WAIT to see who they give the nod to...
...or who takes the nod by force
maybe there'll be a senior-citizen throwdown on the floor of the GOP convention! Delegates all checking a fool, sequined uncle sam hats squashed underfoot, walkers abandoned, mass panic
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:49:27pm |
re: #38 albusteve
no FUCKING shit...the left is sounding as ridiculous as the right
In what respect, Charlie?
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:49:32pm |
re: #35 goddamnedfrank
They're going to deliberately ignore the fact that he had to seek an exception to the rules, one that was only granted because of their incessant lying bullshit.
Just until the whole "He waited!" bullshit loses traction. Obama didn't put the issue to rest today, he added fuel to the flames, just as the GOP was trying to extinguish those flames in order to salvage the primary season.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:49:59pm |
Counting the # of times a long-dormant LGF account pops up to post a link to the neo-Birther "PDF layers" conspiracy theory: 3 so far.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:50:00pm |
re: #44 Obdicut
He's right, nothing is ever certain
we could all just be in the snow globe of that autistic kid in St. Elsewhere
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:50:08pm |
re: #44 Obdicut
"Nothing is ever 100% certain!"
I'd like to steal that guy's wallet, and then claim that he doesn't know I took it, because, hey, nothing's ever 100% certain.
Hey, AGW isn't 100% either. Just like 99.99% certain. So I guess that's why the GOP doesn't give a shit about it.
It's a perfect wingnut logic trap: they only accept things that are 100% certain, and no facts are 100% certain, so they can all believe what they want and they're not objectively wrong.
What fucktards.
you made a buck... the gubemint wants 40 cents... 100% certain.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:50:37pm |
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:50:59pm |
re: #44 Obdicut
Once again, the "Higher Truth" is that Obama is not a "Real American", and hence ineligible to be our President.
The matter of his legal eligibility for office is like window dressing - sort of likea reverse version of the myth of the Virgin Birth, which was necessary to prove the divinity of Christ.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:50:59pm |
re: #48 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
yep!
he can trickle stuff out from now until election day, and by election day they'll be incoherent
GENIUS! it's like he's tormenting them to madness
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:51:38pm |
re: #44 Obdicut
"Nothing is ever 100% certain!"
I'd like to steal that guy's wallet, and then claim that he doesn't know I took it, because, hey, nothing's ever 100% certain.
Hey, AGW isn't 100% either. Just like 99.99% certain. So I guess that's why the GOP doesn't give a shit about it.
It's a perfect wingnut logic trap: they only accept things that are 100% certain, and no facts are 100% certain, so they can all believe what they want and they're not objectively wrong.
What fucktards.
It's their way of avoiding doing anything that they're on the losing side of. "Since AGW isn't 100% certain, the people saying it's not happening or not that bad are just as valid as the people who are saying it is." Hence, they don't see a need to combat something that they can't be "certain" is actually happening.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:51:47pm |
re: #41 WindUpBird
man, this is so much like the 90's
Exactly like the 90's. So much of this conspiracy theory shit going on now is just recycled shit from Clinton's term. Sure, there may be some racism involved for some segments, but most of this crap is due to a democrat occupying the Oval Office.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:51:58pm |
re: #51 brookly red
you made a buck... the gubemint wants 40 cents... 100% certain.
killin' brown folk costs money!
You think all those drones build themselves? :D
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:52:23pm |
re: #51 brookly red
you made a buck... the gubemint wants 40 cents... 100% certain.
Totally false. Why would you say something that wrong?
If your total income is $20,000, and you make another $1, how much does the government want from that $1?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:52:42pm |
re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth
Exactly like the 90's. So much of this conspiracy theory shit going on now is just recycled shit from Clinton's term. Sure, there may be some racism involved for some segments, but most of this crap is due to a democrat occupying the Oval Office.
The internet has given us a much richer tapestry of crazy this time around
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:52:44pm |
re: #57 WindUpBird
You think all those drones build themselves? :D
In a few decades, we will have them replicating themselves.
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:52:45pm |
re: #54 WindUpBird
yep!
he can trickle stuff out from now until election day, and by election day they'll be incoherent
GENIUS! it's like he's tormenting them to madness
What better way to ensure your reelection than to orchestrate the nomination of a guy even less qualified for office than Sarah Palin?
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:53:17pm |
re: #58 Obdicut
Totally false. Why would you say something that wrong?
If your total income is $20,000, and you make another $1, how much does the government want from that $1?
get over yourself
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:53:21pm |
re: #41 WindUpBird
man, this is so much like the 90's
Obama killed Vince Foster!
HA! I was about to type that about Foster!
WHERE WAS BILL AYERS
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:53:52pm |
re: #60 ralphieboy
In a few decades, we will have them replicating themselves.
oh won't that be fun
"Hey Bill? What's a "skull-tread?"
"I dunno, Carl, why do you ask?"
*looks at factory floor*
"Because Skynet is making a hundred thousand of them without our help."
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:09pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:11pm |
re: #62 brookly red
Why blame me for pointing out that you said something really goddamn dumb?
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:11pm |
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:14pm |
re: #59 WindUpBird
The internet has given us a much richer tapestry of crazy this time around
yeah, and it's been a curse...if people cannot be principled and practice good citizenship then we are fucked, and the net provides that medium
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:25pm |
re: #63 iceweasel
HA! I was about to type that about Foster!
WHERE WAS BILL AYERS
BILL AYERS KILLED VINCE FOSTER
FUCK FUCK THE CODE HAS BEEN CRACKED WE'RE NOT SAFE
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:50pm |
re: #64 WindUpBird
oh won't that be fun
"Hey Bill? What's a "skull-tread?"
"I dunno, Carl, why do you ask?"
*looks at factory floor*
"Because Skynet is making a hundred thousand of them without our help."
skynet is a non-union shop...
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:54:54pm |
re: #49 Charles
Counting the # of times a long-dormant LGF account pops up to post a link to the neo-Birther "PDF layers" conspiracy theory: 3 so far.
And it's only Wednesday. This weekend alone should be rather interesting.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:55:28pm |
re: #68 albusteve
yeah, and it's been a curse...if people cannot be principled and practice good citizenship then we are fucked, and the net provides that medium
this is part of my balkanization theory
the internet made it all transparent, made connectivity too easy, making it impossible to govern a country this large, so it'll fracture
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:55:38pm |
re: #41 WindUpBird
man, this is so much like the 90's
Obama killed Vince Foster!
And of course, the rise in abortion clinic violence is also just like the 90's. The 90's also brought us OK City. What I'm afraid of is something like that happening again-- and with the return of the Fear of the Fed and the rise of militias, I don't think it's an irrational fear.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:56:04pm |
re: #66 Obdicut
Why blame me for pointing out that you said something really goddamn dumb?
you know there was a time I would bother with you, but no longer.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:56:56pm |
re: #59 WindUpBird
The internet has given us a much richer tapestry of crazy this time around
It makes it easier for the kooks to congregate, but it also makes it easier for us non-kooks to see the kook connections.
A lot of the CT crap slung at Clinton from RW talk radio originated from senoJ xelA, but you wouldn't know it if you weren't already familiar with that nutjob.
Now, it's much easier to see the sources of such crap.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:57:02pm |
re: #73 WindUpBird
this is part of my balkanization theory
the internet made it all transparent, made connectivity too easy, making it impossible to govern a country this large, so it'll fracture
I've not forgotten your notion, and do not necessarily disagree
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:57:34pm |
I hope people watch this video. This is our second time through it (me and Jimmah) and it's totally worth it.
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Obdicut Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:57:50pm |
re: #75 brookly red
Dude. You said something dumb. I pointed it out. It's over now. Move on with your bad self. Don't be like the GOP.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:57:57pm |
re: #73 WindUpBird
this is part of my balkanization theory
the internet made it all transparent, made connectivity too easy, making it impossible to govern a country this large, so it'll fracture
I got dibs on Brooklyn...
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:58:26pm |
re: #68 albusteve
yeah, and it's been a curse...if people cannot be principled and practice good citizenship then we are fucked, and the net provides that medium
I mentioned earlier about the ugly flip side of American rugged independence and self-reliance: it quickly turns into a brutal disregard for others outside one's identification group. And that side of it is spreading.
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:59:02pm |
re: #80 brookly red
I got dibs on Brooklyn...
But I thought you left the N off your name as a protest against service on the N train?/
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:59:35pm |
re: #82 iceweasel
But I thought you left the N off your name as a protest against service on the N train?/
now you know better than that.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:59:47pm |
Sorry for the OT, but it looks like a tornado is going to strike Birmingham, AL here in a few minutes. I'm watching FOX 6 from Birmingham and it's a big twister. Hope everyone comes out from these storms alright throughout the South.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:59:48pm |
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Renaissance_Man Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:00:01pm |
re: #23 ralphieboy
I admire America's culture of rugged individualism and self-reliance, but its slimy underbelly is that it often expresses itself as a brutal disregard for people outside one's immediate ethnic/political/religious affiliation.
No, that's not uniquely American. That's human nature - people by and large have a disregard for those outside their Monkeysphere. What is uniquely American is an all-pervasive media culture, one that can feed these hatreds and make them part of one's daily intake, an Orwellian Two Minute Hate, as it were. And even that is only unique to America because other countries do not yet have such a dominant mass media. It is my hope that by the time other countries develop such a thing, a combination of engagement in the international community and more stringent regulation (two things which America has not been blessed with a lot of) will prevent them going down the same path.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:00:10pm |
re: #66 Obdicut
Why blame me for pointing out that you said something really goddamn dumb?
Cuz your just a partisan jerky jerk jerk.
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:00:10pm |
re: #80 brookly red
I got dibs on Brooklyn...
I personally would like to help recolonize and rebuild Gary, Indiana.
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wiffersnapper Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:00:21pm |
One of the few times I cheered Chris on. What a wallop he delivered to those fools.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:01:33pm |
I see Joseph Farah is in full-on re-meme mode... sort of historical revisionism only this is happening in realtime. Now the issue is that Obama still is legally eligible.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:02:18pm |
re: #88 ralphieboy
I personally would like to help recolonize and rebuild Gary, Indiana.
if you can do that we will throw in Detroit as a bonus!
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:02:40pm |
re: #63 iceweasel
HA! I was about to type that about Foster!
WHERE WAS BILL AYERS
Bill Ayers faked Obama's Birth Certificate.
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:03:02pm |
re: #86 Renaissance_Man
Every nation has its way of balancing individual rights vs society, but in America it seems to be reaching violent extremes.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:03:34pm |
OT: For those in the Birmingham AL area - get yourself into someplace safe. There's a tornado on the ground and tearing up communities just north of the city.
Tornado emergency declared for Birmingham, passing just north of downtown.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:03:41pm |
re: #92 Conservative Moonbat
Bill Ayers faked Obama's Birth Certificate.
No! his social security number... get it right.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:03:43pm |
Corsi is such a con-man, and Drudge is his media agent.
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:04:03pm |
re: #92 Conservative Moonbat
Bill Ayers faked Obama's Birth Certificate.
Can you prove with 100% certainty that he did not?
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:04:50pm |
re: #95 lawhawk
I'm watching that right now on FOX 6. The studio was getting some debris from the storm before the twister approached. This is a massive, massive tornado, the news guys estimating that it could be a mile wide.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:06:02pm |
re: #95 lawhawk
OT: For those in the Birmingham AL area - get yourself into someplace safe. There's a tornado on the ground and tearing up communities just north of the city.
Tornado emergency declared for Birmingham, passing just north of downtown.
We're watching for our daughert. They have cell, but no cable. Her neighborhood was wacked at 0430 this morning, and is getting a second dose right now. 2-4 dead there in the morning wave.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:06:15pm |
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:06:35pm |
re: #99 commadore183
Yes - power's gone out on the north side of Birmingham, and they're predicting a pretty wide damage path. Tornado located 4 miles nw moving towards Terance City.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:06:43pm |
re: #74 iceweasel
And of course, the rise in abortion clinic violence is also just like the 90's. The 90's also brought us OK City. What I'm afraid of is something like that happening again-- and with the return of the Fear of the Fed and the rise of militias, I don't think it's an irrational fear.
oh and it'll happen in Obama's second term
because they really think they can win
and when theres a landslide, it'll break their hearts
and then kaboom
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:07:26pm |
re: #98 ralphieboy
Can you prove with 100% certainty that he did not?
can you prove that obama isn't only 3/5ths of a human being?
CAN YOU PROVE IT?!?!?!?!?!?
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:08:33pm |
re: #101 freetoken
lots of warnings this afternoon:
[Link: kamala.cod.edu...]
We just had a Warning in Nashville about an hour ago. My gf's only been here about 10 years so she still gets freaked out by them. If you're from here you're used to the fact that April is pretty much a constant tornado warning.
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:09:29pm |
re: #103 WindUpBird
oh and it'll happen in Obama's second term
because they really think they can win
and when theres a landslide, it'll break their hearts
and then kaboom
Don't think it will be a landslide. In fact, it might be close enough that they will insist that it was massive voter fraud. Or at least that it cannot be 100% ruled out...
Right now the thought that scares me is that if the economy starts to recover and there is no massive terrorist attack on the USA between now and 2012, the GOP has little chance of winning...
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:09:34pm |
Sounds like Tuscaloosa was hit with an estimated EF4/5 tornado, according to FOX 6.
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engineer cat Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:09:34pm |
re: #59 WindUpBird
The internet has given us a much richer tapestry of crazy this time around
and, on the internet, nobody can tell that i'm a dog!
oh, wait...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:09:56pm |
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allegro Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:10:43pm |
re: #105 Conservative Moonbat
We just had a Warning in Nashville about an hour ago. My gf's only been here about 10 years so she still gets freaked out by them. If you're from here you're used to the fact that April is pretty much a constant tornado warning.
That's how newcomers to Houston give themselves away. Whenever there's a hint of a hurricane in the Gulf they start taping their windows. Big X's that do nothing but announce that they're new here and freaked out. Then we watch them spend a day sheepishly scraping.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:12:01pm |
A bunch of more warnings just went up for mid-atlantic areas.
Of the reports so far today, 3 known fatalities and 3 injuries:
[Link: www.spc.noaa.gov...]
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MinisterO Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:12:03pm |
re: #19 Renaissance_Man
It never ceases to amaze me how utterly mean-spirited the modern American Conservative movement is. Their issues, their entertainment, their humour is positively soaked in bile.
Well, it's funny if you hate liberals.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:12:19pm |
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:13:27pm |
EF4-EF5 type-damage being reported in West Birmingham. via Weather Channel.
According to Weather Channel, this is same tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, which means that it's been on the ground for more than 50 miles, which is one heck of a long time (record is close to 300 miles).
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:13:45pm |
re: #19 Renaissance_Man
It never ceases to amaze me how utterly mean-spirited the modern American Conservative movement is. Their issues, their entertainment, their humour is positively soaked in bile.
Good humor is about subtlety, irony, nuance and understatement. Those are not concepts that are big in the modern conservative mentality.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:14:22pm |
re: #105 Conservative Moonbat
I live in SE Michigan (about 20 miles south of Detroit), so we don't get a lot of tornadoes compared to those in the Midwest and parts of the South, but it always freaks me out to hear those sirens during these months, especially since I live in a manufactured home. Fortunately, there's a tornado shelter about 1 mile from where I live in case I need to bail.
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:14:49pm |
re: #103 WindUpBird
oh and it'll happen in Obama's second term
because they really think they can win
and when theres a landslide, it'll break their hearts
and then kaboom
I'm looking forward to tasty wingnut tears.
/I know this is wrong of me, but they taste so sweet!
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Interesting Times Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:16:03pm |
re: #111 freetoken
A bunch of more warnings just went up for mid-atlantic areas.
Of the reports so far today, 3 known fatalities and 3 injuries:
[Link: www.spc.noaa.gov...]
Remember what we briefly discussed last night?
Stormy Weather (or you can't say climate scientists didn't warn you)
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allegro Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:16:12pm |
re: #117 iceweasel
I'm looking forward to tasty wingnut tears.
/I know this is wrong of me, but they taste so sweet!
Delivering a slice of schadenfreude pie to go with that cocktail...
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AK-47% Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:16:40pm |
re: #117 iceweasel
I live in Europe and the 2008 election results did not start coming in until 1am. Although it was clear by 2am that Obama was going to win, I stayed up until 4am just to hear the guys on Fox have to grit their teeth and concede defeat.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:17:00pm |
Tingly raises a very good point about Obama having to get an extraordinary exception to be able to get the long form. Lingle couldn't do it, Abercrombie can't do it. Any other person born in Hawaii, any of them, would have to settle for the selfsame short form that Obama released two years ago. Here in Texas, we would accept the Hawaii short form for a teacher's license, a physician's license, a law enforcement certification or anything else where a birth certificate might be required. Yet, the one and only black president is the one and only person ever required to produce the long form, and he has to work around state law to do it. There is something seriously wrong with this picture.
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celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:17:04pm |
re: #27 LoneStarSpur
Somebody needs to bitch-slap that smarmy Arizona state sen.
He reminded me in some way of the insufferably smug Tucker Carlson.
They both could use a sound bitch slapping.
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:17:20pm |
re: #116 commadore183
I live in SE Michigan (about 20 miles south of Detroit), so we don't get a lot of tornadoes compared to those in the Midwest and parts of the South, but it always freaks me out to hear those sirens during these months, especially since I live in a manufactured home. Fortunately, there's a tornado shelter about 1 mile from where I live in case I need to bail.
When it get really bad I just sit in the bathtub with my laptop and keep working.
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Digital Display Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:17:38pm |
re: #117 iceweasel
I'm looking forward to tasty wingnut tears.
/I know this is wrong of me, but they taste so sweet!
What about Trump? Now that he doesn't have the birther issue any more he's stuck with policy issues...
He's toast
in fact
He's Fired!
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:17:44pm |
re: #116 commadore183
I live in SE Michigan (about 20 miles south of Detroit), so we don't get a lot of tornadoes compared to those in the Midwest and parts of the South, but it always freaks me out to hear those sirens during these months, especially since I live in a manufactured home. Fortunately, there's a tornado shelter about 1 mile from where I live in case I need to bail.
I was raised outside Kazoo....my last house had a cool storm bunker I converted from a well pit in my basement....tons of time and money, never used it....but if I lived in tornado ally, I'd sure build a bunker under my garage floor from scratch...the only way to defeat a tornado
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:18:17pm |
New tornado warnings posted for Birmingham - a trailing storm on the major one that just hammered the north side of the city is showing signs of tornadic activity.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:18:18pm |
re: #118 publicityStunted
The problem is that attribution of any event to a particular cause is difficult to impossible. What one can be more confident of is long term or large area trends.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:19:20pm |
I can't even imagine this tornado stuff...
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celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:19:24pm |
re: #38 albusteve
no FUCKING shit...the left is sounding as ridiculous as the right
Magical Balance Faerie getting rodgered again. She would appreciate it if you didn't leave the money on the nightstand this time. It's rude.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:19:51pm |
Some cause for optimism.
Unemployment rate falls in two-third of nation's states
The unemployment rate fell in two-thirds of the nation's states last month, the latest evidence that the strengthening economy is encouraging many employers to boost hiring.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:20:19pm |
re: #116 commadore183
I live in SE Michigan (about 20 miles south of Detroit), so we don't get a lot of tornadoes compared to those in the Midwest and parts of the South, but it always freaks me out to hear those sirens during these months, especially since I live in a manufactured home. Fortunately, there's a tornado shelter about 1 mile from where I live in case I need to bail.
One mile won't get it--the decision to bug out would come too late. Think about placing a concrete drainage tile on end (dug in would be better).
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:20:45pm |
re: #128 brookly red
I can't even imagine this tornado stuff...
it's freaky dude....no question....mine plastered Kalamazoo MI in 1980...and when you see the funnel, it's stunning
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:21:15pm |
re: #130 jaunte
Some cause for optimism.
that only means that people have exhausted their benefits, not that they are working...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:21:18pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:22:07pm |
re: #113 brookly red
don't worry just look at the economy.
Quoting P.Z. as I did in the last thread:
"A Republican…chastising someone else for not being serious? Watcha gonna do, gomer, fix the economy by shutting down Planned Parenthood, praying, and giving rich people more tax breaks? Yeah, that's serious."
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:22:10pm |
re: #126 lawhawk
New tornado warnings posted for Birmingham - a trailing storm on the major one that just hammered the north side of the city is showing signs of tornadic activity.
The I65 storm has cleared daughter by a couple miles. This one is more lined up, about 30 minutes out.
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:22:53pm |
re: #84 commadore183
Sorry for the OT, but it looks like a tornado is going to strike Birmingham, AL here in a few minutes. I'm watching FOX 6 from Birmingham and it's a big twister. Hope everyone comes out from these storms alright throughout the South.
Amen!
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:03pm |
re: #134 WindUpBird
man I love it when you repeat yourself
then you must have dozens of amorous friends here....repetition is the norm, norm, norm.....norm?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:17pm |
Cool, just got my copy of Portal 2. See you guys next week.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:18pm |
re: #133 brookly red
that only means that people have exhausted their benefits, not that they are working...
These people don't understand that.
...private employers added more than 200,000 jobs for the second consecutive month. Texas added 37,200 net jobs in March, the most of any state.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:36pm |
re: #125 albusteve
I was raised outside Kazoo...my last house had a cool storm bunker I converted from a well pit in my basement...tons of time and money, never used it...but if I lived in tornado ally, I'd sure build a bunker under my garage floor from scratch...the only way to defeat a tornado
would that just consist of a reinforced hole? or would it have to be a whole bomb-shelter with supplies>
Tornado protection fascinates me, because I'll never live in tornado country, it sounds so surreal to me
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:45pm |
WestWingReport West Wing Report
Raising campaign cash in Manhattan, President made fun of the birthers: “Today was a fun day...nobody checked my ID at the door.”
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:47pm |
re: #139 Charles
I hate you. No spoilers, please.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:47pm |
re: #128 brookly red
I can't even imagine this tornado stuff...
Lie down in the gutter in the center of the IRT tracks and let a train go over--it's like that.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:23:59pm |
re: #132 albusteve
it's freaky dude...no question...mine plastered Kalamazoo MI in 1980...and when you see the funnel, it's stunning
I went to school with a girl form Huntsville, she would get really scared when the winds picked up...
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:24:07pm |
re: #48 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Just until the whole "He waited!" bullshit loses traction. Obama didn't put the issue to rest today, he added fuel to the flames, just as the GOP was trying to extinguish those flames in order to salvage the primary season.
Obama decided to pick Trump as his opponent. :D
Feeling so smart now "Trump doesn't have a chance" people?
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:24:23pm |
re: #139 Charles
Cool, just got my copy of Portal 2. See you guys next week.
heh, c'ya
(now I can really express myself!)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:24:23pm |
re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth
I hate you. No spoilers, please.
everyone I know is either playing that or the (amazing) Mortal Kombat reboot
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:24:28pm |
re: #128 brookly red
I can't even imagine this tornado stuff...
Never experienced a tornado myself, but there were a few times when one was close. One time I was coming home from middle school in Ohio on a bus and I looked outside a window and a fucking funnel cloud was forming! Fortunately nothing came of it and I made it home without issues. Another time a tornado warning was issued near the end of the school day in high school so we all got into the halls and covered our heads. There was a lot of wind, but no tornado.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:24:40pm |
A funny comment from Hot Air....
BTW, I specifically remember begging and pleading with Allahpundit to ban birthers back in 2009… and he rejected those pleas saying that it wouldn’t matter…While I don’t ever want hotair to be LGFish, I think AP was wrong… birthers should have been banned a long time ago…. it’s not enough to mock them in the blog posts.
A few people are waking up to the fact that the right is infested with loons and conspiracy nuts. If only a few adults would step up and start to clean house!
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:24:55pm |
re: #130 jaunte
Some cause for optimism.
Also durable goods were up more than expected. Also up for the third straight month in a row.[Link: useconomy.about.com...]
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:25:05pm |
re: #124 HoosierHoops
What about Trump? Now that he doesn't have the birther issue any more he's stuck with policy issues...
He's toast
in fact
He's Fired!
Hey Hoops! How are you? Jimmah says hi too.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:25:10pm |
re: #146 prononymous
Obama decided to pick Trump as his opponent. :D
Feeling so smart now "Trump doesn't have a chance" people?
YES!
PERFECT!
That's the power of the presidency. You can use the bully pulpit for trolling purposes
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:25:20pm |
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mr.fusion Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:25:42pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:25:44pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
It is surreal. The green sky is crazy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:25:45pm |
re: #150 Killgore Trout
A funny comment from Hot Air...
A few people are waking up to the fact that the right is infested with loons and conspiracy nuts. If only a few adults would step up and start to clean house!
You know what we need? a REALITY SHOW STAR!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:26:24pm |
re: #156 prairiefire
It is surreal. The green sky is crazy.
I've watched people on youtube who have shot footage when tornadoes and hurricanes are tearing houses up, just blows me away
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:26:29pm |
re: #149 commadore183
Never experienced a tornado myself, but there were a few times when one was close. One time I was coming home from middle school in Ohio on a bus and I looked outside a window and a fucking funnel cloud was forming! Fortunately nothing came of it and I made it home without issues. Another time a tornado warning was issued near the end of the school day in high school so we all got into the halls and covered our heads. There was a lot of wind, but no tornado.
Damn things follow me around--we're under a watch right now. We even had one near us in Italy (tempesto).
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:26:49pm |
re: #140 jaunte
These people don't understand that.
200,000 ? great start so maybe in 12 or 13 years things will be back to normal.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:27:28pm |
re: #148 WindUpBird
everyone I know is either playing that or the (amazing) Mortal Kombat reboot
I'm currently playing the George Soros Simulator.
///
I don't have the spare cash nor the computing power to play new games. I'll pick up Portal 2 for the 360 when it drops to $29.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:27:36pm |
re: #136 Decatur Deb
The I65 storm has cleared daughter by a couple miles. This one is more lined up, about 30 minutes out.
Our local news just carried some live broadcasts from "sister" stations. Really bad situation.
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:27:37pm |
re: #131 Decatur Deb
One mile won't get it--the decision to bug out would come too late. Think about placing a concrete drainage tile on end (dug in would be better).
Right. most tornados have a fairly small radius. They demolish one house and leave the one next to it untouched. They often don't stay on the ground for longer than a mile.
I don't get worried and go for the bathtub or closet until the low pressure makes my ears pop.
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prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:27:45pm |
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:27:47pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
would that just consist of a reinforced hole? or would it have to be a whole bomb-shelter with supplies>
Tornado protection fascinates me, because I'll never live in tornado country, it sounds so surreal to me
my well pit was a small room of the side wall of the basement, defunct....solid reinforced concrete so all that was there, I put in a reinforced steel door, a generator/fuel and tools to force my way out and supplies for a couple of days....just being Mr Ready...Kansas is where you take that shit serious, real serious
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:28:01pm |
re: #149 commadore183
Never experienced a tornado myself, but there were a few times when one was close. One time I was coming home from middle school in Ohio on a bus and I looked outside a window and a fucking funnel cloud was forming! Fortunately nothing came of it and I made it home without issues. Another time a tornado warning was issued near the end of the school day in high school so we all got into the halls and covered our heads. There was a lot of wind, but no tornado.
It's astounding.
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:28:35pm |
Another Twitter troll: [Link: twitter.com...]
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:28:35pm |
Just like Farah and the birthers, reality doesn't really matter with the anti-vaxxers:
What autism, climate change and Obama's birth certificate have in common
Note how quickly the anti-vaxxers came out in the comments.
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Digital Display Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:28:57pm |
re: #152 iceweasel
Hey Hoops! How are you? Jimmah says hi too.
'Tis the season of NBA play-offs.. It doesn't get any better!
Hope you and Jimmah are doing well
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:29:00pm |
re: #160 brookly red
200,000 ? great start so maybe in 12 or 13 years things will be back to normal.
things will never be back to normal, actually
No president can fix the corruption of our financial system
No president can reverse our terrible civic planning that relies of cheap gas
No president can make it so Texas has enough water
No president will prevent Vegas suburbs from crumbling to dust
No president will really be able to fix health care (Obama was smeared as a socialist simply for attempting to stop the bleeding)
The president is an executive. He doesn't grant wishes.
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mr.fusion Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:29:35pm |
re: #150 Killgore Trout
BTW, I specifically remember begging and pleading with Allahpundit to ban birthers back in 2009… and he rejected those pleas saying that it wouldn’t matter…
While I don’t ever want hotair to be LGFish, I think AP was wrong… birthers should have been banned a long time ago…. it’s not enough to mock them in the blog posts.
Banning birthers from hotair would be like banning fat people from CiCi's Pizza.....
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:29:39pm |
re: #141 WindUpBird
would that just consist of a reinforced hole? or would it have to be a whole bomb-shelter with supplies>
Tornado protection fascinates me, because I'll never live in tornado country, it sounds so surreal to me
Had one hit the high school I was attending, 10th grade. It got black as nighttime outside, wind was howling - teachers got us all into the hallways, closed the doors. We could hear all sorts of hell breaking loose in the classrooms - it was scary. And it started and was over with in just minutes. Amazing.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:29:42pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:30:41pm |
AndrewSiciliano Andrew Siciliano
by sgw94
This is live tv from Birmingham. The tornado could be a mile wide. This is unreal [Link: www.ustream.tv...]
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:30:44pm |
re: #172 reine.de.tout
Had one hit the high school I was attending, 10th grade. It got black as nighttime outside, wind was howling - teachers got us all into the hallways, closed the doors. We could hear all sorts of hell breaking loose in the classrooms - it was scary. And it started and was over with in just minutes. Amazing.
the sound alone will have you freeze in terror...there is nothing like it, ungodly
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:30:51pm |
re: #172 reine.de.tout
Had one hit the high school I was attending, 10th grade. It got black as nighttime outside, wind was howling - teachers got us all into the hallways, closed the doors. We could hear all sorts of hell breaking loose in the classrooms - it was scary. And it started and was over with in just minutes. Amazing.
The Enterprise HS was destroyed a couple years ago--2 towns over. Eight kids were killed
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:31:02pm |
re: #166 brookly red
It's astounding.
The most exciting thing on that HS tornado close-call was the power going out for several moments. When that went down, the school was hosting some elementary/middle schoolers (for what I can't remember now), so it was a bit more chaotic for them than for the older ones.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:31:34pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:31:59pm |
re: #157 WindUpBird
You know what we need? a REALITY SHOW STAR!
Yeah, they still don't quite get it but they know something's wrong. What they really need to do is start debunking Beck, Fox, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Heritage, Cato, etc....They want to rearrange the furniture in hopes things will get better. They need a massive house cleaning.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:32:24pm |
re: #174 Stanley Sea
I have that running in the background in case the FOX 6 feed dies or something interesting on that one comes up.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:32:26pm |
re: #168 freetoken
Just like Farah and the birthers, reality doesn't really matter with the anti-vaxxers:
What autism, climate change and Obama's birth certificate have in common
Note how quickly the anti-vaxxers came out in the comments.
anti-vaxxers are a scourge that is going to create a superbug
I'm kind of a bastard about this. Anti-vaxxers are unfit to be parents, period, end of story, it's child abuse. it's just like those Christian scientists who refuse to take their kdis to the doctor, but FAR FAR WORSE
because letting a child have a deformed limb because you refuse to let a doctor look at their broken arm, that ain't contagious!
Anti-vax=anti-american, it's a threat to national security to intentionally create disease vectors. Seriously, get these children away from these lunatics before they incubate a pandemic, or at least forcibly vax them, with police involvement if necessary
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:32:39pm |
re: #172 reine.de.tout
Had one hit the high school I was attending, 10th grade. It got black as nighttime outside, wind was howling - teachers got us all into the hallways, closed the doors. We could hear all sorts of hell breaking loose in the classrooms - it was scary. And it started and was over with in just minutes. Amazing.
YAAAAGH o_o
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:33:06pm |
re: #149 commadore183
Never experienced a tornado myself, but there were a few times when one was close. One time I was coming home from middle school in Ohio on a bus and I looked outside a window and a fucking funnel cloud was forming! Fortunately nothing came of it and I made it home without issues. Another time a tornado warning was issued near the end of the school day in high school so we all got into the halls and covered our heads. There was a lot of wind, but no tornado.
Saw a funnel once leaving Busch Gardens Williamsburg. As a child from an area that NEVER gets tornados, that was something else.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:33:20pm |
re: #179 Killgore Trout
Yeah, they still don't quite get it but they know something's wrong. What they really need to do is start debunking Beck, Fox, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Heritage, Cato, etc...They want to rearrange the furniture in hopes things will get better. They need a massive house cleaning.
well, they need to admit they have a problem
Right now, the GOP is in the "tiptoe-around-the-sleeping-alcoholic-father" mode
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:33:25pm |
tornadoes are instant....what you knew before is gone in a blink...it does not creep up slowly or give much warning...it's on you, now....people are scared to death of the damned things and I understand why
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:33:32pm |
The tornado in Birmingham tore the roof off their emergency management facility. It was looking to pick a fight.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:33:34pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:34:09pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
at some point we gotta get on a thing and compare Seattle notes
I'm halfexpecting you to actually know people I know, heh
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:34:14pm |
re: #185 McSpiff
Saw a funnel once leaving Busch Gardens Williamsburg. As a child from an area that NEVER gets tornados, that was something else.
my all time second favorite park...what a great place
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Interesting Times Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:35:16pm |
re: #127 freetoken
I understand what you're saying, but the trends are so strong I'm no longer thinking in terms of "single" events anyway. And maybe no one should:
I find it [Climate Change] ... often gets underplayed by my fellow scientists. Because one of the opening statements, which I’m sure you’ve probably heard, is “Well you can’t attribute a single event to climate change.” But there is a systematic influence on all of these weather events now-a-days because of the fact that there is this extra water vapor lurking around in the atmosphere than there used to be say 30 years ago. It’s about a 4% extra amount, it invigorates the storms, it provides plenty of moisture for these storms and it’s unfortunate that the public is not associating these with the fact that this is one manifestation of climate change. And the prospects are that these kinds of things will only get bigger and worse in the future.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:35:29pm |
re: #182 WindUpBird
'incubate a pandemic" is probably not clinical language hahahaha
it sounds great as language though!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:35:52pm |
re: #192 publicityStunted
more fuel= bigger fires
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M. Dubious Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:36:00pm |
Is that Ludwig on Twitter or just another disgruntled ex-poster?
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:36:03pm |
re: #191 albusteve
my all time second favorite park...what a great place
That and Watercountry USA were just awesome. Virginia was just an amazing trip in general. Drove down the Eastern Seaboard, camped with the folks. And next to no one from my part of the world has been there. Can't figure it out, its like 2 days drive max.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:36:21pm |
re: #195 harald
Is that Ludwig on Twitter or just another disgruntled ex-poster?
it's a troll of course
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:36:22pm |
re: #187 albusteve
tornadoes are instant...what you knew before is gone in a blink...it does not creep up slowly or give much warning...it's on you, now...people are scared to death of the damned things and I understand why
Thanfully, the ability to predict them with a decent amount of accuracy has improved tremendously, giving those in the predicted path enough time to get to a decent shelter of some form. In some cases, when the sirens go off, you can get several minutes, not a lot but enough to put something between you and the twister.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:37:34pm |
The president's a Kenyan usurper, the Earth is 6,000 years old, net neutrality is socialism, the whole scientific community is plotting to deceive us about climate change.
We have tens of millions of people living in a completely artificial world, a fantasy. It is really kind of spooky. I would feel sorry for them if they were not so smug and utterly confident of their own superiority.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:38:44pm |
re: #196 McSpiff
That and Watercountry USA were just awesome. Virginia was just an amazing trip in general. Drove down the Eastern Seaboard, camped with the folks. And next to no one from my part of the world has been there. Can't figure it out, its like 2 days drive max.
spent much time in VA...I love it there, and will certainly go back....one of my best friends hails from Falls Church, and another from from Reston
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:39:03pm |
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Interesting Times Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:40:42pm |
re: #194 WindUpBird
more fuel= bigger fires
Ooh, speaking of fires, and speaking of tornadoes, how about we just go whole-hog and combine the two? o_O
How'd you like to imagine that sucker going across a few gas lines in a drought-stricken, densely populated area?
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M. Dubious Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:40:50pm |
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:41:12pm |
re: #200 albusteve
spent much time in VA...I love it there, and will certainly go back...one of my best friends hails from Falls Church, and another from from Reston
Now that most of my friends have hit 21, I wanna head to Virginia beach. We'll grab a beer out there sometime.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:42:00pm |
re: #192 publicityStunted
I understand what you're saying, but the trends are so strong I'm no longer thinking in terms of "single" events anyway. And maybe no one should:
I've heard a few days ago that the tornadoes reported are near record numbers for April (I think). When I heard that, I did think that this could be an effect of climate change.
The ABC 33/40 stream on ustream is showing some of the damage to one city that I didn't catch by one of their mobile reporters.
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:42:00pm |
re: #205 McSpiff
Now that most of my friends have hit 21, I wanna head to Virginia beach. We'll grab a beer out there sometime.
Careful towards the beach, the tourists are thick this time of year.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:42:08pm |
re: #204 harald
just takes a mobile device and sever emotional investment ;)
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:42:13pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:42:16pm |
Awesome science, graphs, arrows and heat maps from Crazy Pam....
Layering: Obama's New COLB Raises More Questions than it Answers
Today, Obama released another copy of his COLB (certification of live birth) - more here. It looks like another exhaustive digital forensic examination is in order.And so the question is, why release such an obvious forgery?
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:42:25pm |
re: #198 commadore183
Thanfully, the ability to predict them with a decent amount of accuracy has improved tremendously, giving those in the predicted path enough time to get to a decent shelter of some form. In some cases, when the sirens go off, you can get several minutes, not a lot but enough to put something between you and the twister.
Fuck the goddamn sirens. They have been going off and on all afternoon, just started going off again, and they are really getting on my nerves.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:43:15pm |
re: #178 goddamnedfrank
yes thankfully the market is going up, I depend on it for my you know, walking around money ... don't try to tell tens of millions of unemployed people that things are all groovy cause they (we) might just take offense.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:44:15pm |
Here we go again... this time in Massachusetts.
House lawmakers voted overwhelmingly last night to strip police officers, teachers, and other municipal employees of most of their rights to bargain over health care, saying the change would save millions of dollars for financially strapped cities and towns.
[Link: www.boston.com...]
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:45:10pm |
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:45:41pm |
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:45:44pm |
re: #205 McSpiff
Now that most of my friends have hit 21, I wanna head to Virginia beach. We'll grab a beer out there sometime.
try and plan a trip around this gig...very high quality mini fest....Mardi Gras North.....the Bayou Boogaloo, it's worth it
[Link: www.festevents.org...]
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The Left Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:46:00pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Awesome science, graphs, arrows and heat maps from Crazy Pam...
Layering: Obama's New COLB Raises More Questions than it AnswersAnd so the question is, why release such an obvious forgery?
That's the question, yeah. Why is it so obvious to Pam, and yet not to us? She blinded us with science.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:46:04pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Awesome science, graphs, arrows and heat maps from Crazy Pam...
Layering: Obama's New COLB Raises More Questions than it Answers
And don't try fooling them with any documented steps detailing why its perfectly normal given how the document is scanned. They're on to those "reality" based tricks now.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:46:10pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
Here we go again... this time in Massachusetts.
[Link: www.boston.com...]
in Boston? in the bluest of blue states? How could such a thing be?
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allegro Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:46:28pm |
re: #202 albusteve
VA is for lovers!
heh
I know I've nevah met a Vahginiah gentleman who didn't make me swoon. There's just something about those guys...
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:46:38pm |
re: #218 iceweasel
That's the question, yeah. Why is it so obvious to Pam, and yet not to us? She blinded us with science.
You've got to be really dumb to be that smart.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:47:17pm |
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:47:20pm |
re: #223 kragar (proud to be kafir)
You've got to be really dumb to be that smart.
there you go getting all Zen again!
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:47:21pm |
re: #214 Walter L. Newton
Here we go again... this time in Massachusetts.
[Link: www.boston.com...]
yep, something like NJ and CA...it's spreading
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:47:44pm |
re: #203 publicityStunted
let's throw in some dragons and maybe a few thousand flying skulls for good measure
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:47:57pm |
No tornado was as scary as the one that was beating a path towards SW Oklahoma City on May 3,1999. I sat listening to the tornado sirens and watching on TV it was just 3 miles from me. The weather guy said"If you are not in an underground shelter, you are going to die." As you can tell, I didn't. It was a F5. Never want to do that again.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:48:29pm |
re: #226 albusteve
yep, something like NJ and CA...it's spreading
and it a haaard rain that gonna fall.
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:48:43pm |
re: #215 commadore183
Thanks, but I'm in TN. We've been having our share of storms today too.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:48:52pm |
re: #227 WindUpBird
let's throw in some dragons and maybe a few thousand flying skulls for good measure
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:48:55pm |
re: #218 iceweasel
That's the question, yeah. Why is it so obvious to Pam, and yet not to us? She blinded us with science.
Pam "Cougar jerky" Geller had this to say:
*creak creak*
Sorry folks, the jerky is stale today, come back tomorrow
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:48:59pm |
If present trends continue, the day will come when the tea partiers all get up from their couches, abandon their SUVs, and march across the country in serrried ranks until they vanish into the sea. This will happen for reasons that are incomprehensible to us but that make perfect sense in TP universe.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:49:12pm |
re: #226 albusteve
re: #220 brookly red
in Boston? in the bluest of blue states? How could such a thing be?
I don't know... I guess it happens sometime...
The 111-to-42 vote followed tougher measures to broadly eliminate collective bargaining rights for public employees in Ohio, Wisconsin, and other states. But unlike those efforts, the push in Massachusetts was led by Democrats who have traditionally stood with labor to oppose any reduction in workers’ rights.
[Link: www.boston.com...]
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:49:30pm |
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:49:39pm |
re: #222 allegro
I know I've nevah met a Vahginiah gentleman who didn't make me swoon. There's just something about those guys...
it's on the car plates if I recall....what about us stud New Mexicans, chica?....we are chopped liver?
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:50:24pm |
Does anyone understand Photoshop enough to explain this stupid "layers" thingie with regard to Obama's birth certificate?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:51:08pm |
re: #199 Shiplord Kirel
The president's a Kenyan usurper, the Earth is 6,000 years old, net neutrality is socialism, the whole scientific community is plotting to deceive us about climate change.
We have tens of millions of people living in a completely artificial world, a fantasy. It is really kind of spooky. I would feel sorry for them if they were not so smug and utterly confident of their own superiority.
We are all biased. Every single person without question has biases, believes some untrue things, perceives some things incorrectly, etc.
Unfortunately, these guys are rejecting/attacking the only real way of combating that bias: By comparing our subjective realities and coming up with an answer that matches the facts in both.
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celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:51:19pm |
re: #231 kragar (proud to be kafir)
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
You are in need of purification. Please report to the nearest Adeptus Arbites facility for processing.
;)
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:51:40pm |
re: #234 Walter L. Newton
re: #220 brookly red
I don't know... I guess it happens sometime...
[Link: www.boston.com...]
They're really rockin Boston
In Pittsburgh, P. A.
Deep in the heart of Texas
And 'round the Frisco Bay
All over St. Louis
Way down in New Orleans
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:52:05pm |
BreakingNews Breaking News
Storms knock out 3 TVA nuclear reactors in Alabama - Reuters [Link: reut.rs...]
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:52:14pm |
re: #238 Sionainn
Does anyone understand Photoshop enough to explain this stupid "layers" thingie with regard to Obama's birth certificate?
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celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:52:23pm |
bbl. I have to study for my history final exam.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:53:20pm |
re: #244 celticdragon
bbl. I have to study for my history final exam.
final... that sounds so, final.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:53:37pm |
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:53:42pm |
re: #175 albusteve
Oh i agree! I remember hiding in a bathroom of my hotel room in Tulsa OK many years ago listening to that noise, nothing else like it. I remember thinking, they are going to find me dead, a mile from here still clinging to the toilet with a cigarette clenched between my lips. I had always hoped to go out in a more dignified manner.
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:53:47pm |
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:54:25pm |
re: #242 Stanley Sea
Doesn't seem like anything to worry about, but obviously something to keep an eye out.
New tornado warning for Blunt County in AL, if I caught that right.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:54:46pm |
re: #238 Sionainn
Does anyone understand Photoshop enough to explain this stupid "layers" thingie with regard to Obama's birth certificate?
Uhhh what are they actually saying? From what i've read, they're speaking gibberish IMHO
Photoshop files operate on a layer system, so you can move layers up and down, change their blend modes, just like, say, animation cels
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:54:53pm |
re: #240 celticdragon
You are in need of purification. Please report to the nearest Adeptus Arbites facility for processing.
;)
Actually, I always liked Nurgle better, but he doesn't have the spiffy catchphrase.
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allegro Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:55:19pm |
re: #237 albusteve
it's on the car plates if I recall...what about us stud New Mexicans, chica?...we are chopped liver?
Northern New Mexico is my favorite place in the world... I did have a crush on a blonde Taos hippie whitewater guide named Billie. heh, mighta been the great grass too.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:55:27pm |
re: #248 Cankles McCellulite
Oh i agree! I remember hiding in a bathroom of my hotel room in Tulsa OK many years ago listening to that noise, nothing else like it. I remember thinking, they are going to find me dead, a mile from here still clinging to the toilet with a cigarette clenched between my lips. I had always hoped to go out in a more dignified manner.
why cling to a toilet? you can't take it with you.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:55:34pm |
re: #250 commadore183
Doesn't seem like anything to worry about, but obviously something to keep an eye out.
New tornado warning for Blunt County in AL, if I caught that right.
Nah, so far it appears to be like hurricane aftermath. No power for awhile for these folks.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:55:40pm |
So the response of Gingrich and the birthers is, "Why did it take him so long to release his birth certificate?"
First, he already did release it--3 years ago. It's been online ever since.
Second, why should he be held to a different standard than previous presidents? None of whom were asked to provide long form birth certificates.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:01pm |
re: #248 Cankles McCellulite
Oh i agree! I remember hiding in a bathroom of my hotel room in Tulsa OK many years ago listening to that noise, nothing else like it. I remember thinking, they are going to find me dead, a mile from here still clinging to the toilet with a cigarette clenched between my lips. I had always hoped to go out in a more dignified manner.
then I'll take your place....what a wild way to go, and I'll bet my little Mp3 will be playing the Stones 'Rock This Joint' when they scrape me up
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:06pm |
Calling back to an earlier post:
re: #7 dragonfire1981
The right wing of today continues to astound me. A Conservative friend of mine has been teaching her 5 year old that the correct thing to do if President Obama shows up at the door is "get the gun."
She could not understand why I didn't think it was funny.
The next time you're present when your friend says that to her kid, turn to the child and say "No sweetie, that's what you do when a preacher shows up at the door".
And please feel free to tell her you heard that from a conservative.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:25pm |
re: #255 Stanley Sea
All the American reactors got total safety refits after 9/11 anyways.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:38pm |
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:48pm |
The PDF is composed of multiple images. That’s correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as they’re being called, aren’t layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. They’re not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:48pm |
re: #256 palomino
So the response of Gingrich and the birthers is, "Why did it take him so long to release his birth certificate?"
First, he already did release it--3 years ago. It's been online ever since.
Second, why should he be held to a different standard than previous presidents? None of whom were asked to provide long form birth certificates.
@AngryBlackLady: This is RACISM. Say it again. RACISM. I know white folks don't like that word, but that's what it is.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:56:49pm |
I've been told via Facebook that it is mean-spirited, hurtful, and demonizing for me to compare the birthers to flat Earthers.
After some reflection, I have agree. Some years ago, I happened to meet the president of the International Flat Earth Society, the late Charles K. Johnson (no relation to our Charles). He was a very pleasant and sincere gentleman despite his factually challenged views. I sincerely apologize if I have besmirched his memory by seeming to equate him with duplicitous birther fools.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:57:37pm |
re: #261 kragar (proud to be kafir)
THAT'S what they're talking about?
Man I'm laughing out loud for reals
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:58:37pm |
re: #261 kragar (proud to be kafir)
Might as well say that you can go take a hex-editior into the birth certificate PDF and find SECRET NUMEROLOGY THAT PROVES HE'S MUZZLIM
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:59:04pm |
re: #261 kragar (proud to be kafir)
well putting the original paper one on the table should clear all that up.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:59:15pm |
re: #256 palomino
Second, why should he be held to a different standard than previous presidents? None of whom were asked to provide long form birth certificates.
Hey, hey man, you do know he's black, right? Oh, and look at his name. What real 'mericans would be named Obama? COMMIE AFRIKAN MOOSLEMS, THAT'S WHO!!!
Tornado reported down near Asheville, AL.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:59:36pm |
re: #263 Shiplord Kirel
I've been told via Facebook that it is mean-spirited, hurtful, and demonizing for me to compare the birthers to flat Earthers.
After some reflection, I have agree. Some years ago, I happened to meet the president of the International Flat Earth Society, the late Charles K. Johnson (no relation to our Charles). He was a very pleasant and sincere gentleman despite his factually challenged views. I sincerely apologize if I have besmirched his memory by seeming to equate him with duplicitous birther fools.
You know it stings, because they're offended. HOW DARE YOU MAKE FUN OF US :( :( Low self esteem AND crazy!
weak minds, weak people, glad I don't know anyone like that personally
Life is too short to converse with stupid people on facebook, IMHO
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:59:46pm |
re: #238 Sionainn
Does anyone understand Photoshop enough to explain this stupid "layers" thingie with regard to Obama's birth certificate?
I believe you can do it yourself by scanning an image, convert it to PDF, optimize the PDF then open it in Illustrator. At least that was being told to the Oklahoma birthers and they just so "whaa... did Obama do all that?"
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:59:54pm |
re: #266 brookly red
well putting the original paper one on the table should clear all that up.
WHY WON'T OBAMA RELEASE THE PAPER VERSION?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 4:59:56pm |
re: #266 brookly red
well putting the original paper one on the table should clear all that up.
Plus the placenta.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:00:09pm |
re: #266 brookly red
well putting the original paper one on the table should clear all that up.
this must be some of that advanced private university degree learnin'
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Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:00:25pm |
re: #254 brookly red
What's funnier is, i even had my purse strapped on. Why? I'm not even sure, maybe i thought i might need some gum later, or freshen my lipstick after they pulled me from the rubble.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:00:44pm |
re: #270 kragar (proud to be kafir)
WHY WON'T OBAMA RELEASE THE PAPER VERSION?
you deserve some credit for tenacity
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darthstar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:00:47pm |
I enjoyed Obama's getting a dig in at Chuck Todd at the beginning of his comments. "I wouldn't have you do a breaking story on national security, and you know it." SLAM! Called him(and the rest of the press) out for the gossip-jockey that he is.
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:01:19pm |
re: #251 WindUpBird
Uhhh what are they actually saying? From what i've read, they're speaking gibberish IMHO
Photoshop files operate on a layer system, so you can move layers up and down, change their blend modes, just like, say, animation cels
I just read the link that Reine provided which was helpful. I figured that it was something stupid. After all, this is coming from the same people who are going on about the hospital not being around in 1961 because it was a children's hospital that didn't open until 1978...never mind that the link that they provide clearly states that the maternity hospital was founded in 1890, a children's hospital was founded later, and the two hospitals merged in 1978.
These are the same people who are freaking out that this birth certificate doesn't have a seal...never mind the fact that this is a photocopy of the original which wouldn't have a seal since it is the original.
These are also the same people who are freaking out that this isn't really a birth certificate since it doesn't state "birth certificate"...never mind the fact that most, if not all, states have "certificates of live birth" because it is a federal standard.
Can you tell that I've been steeped in too much stupidity today?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:01:54pm |
re: #275 darthstar
I enjoyed Obama's getting a dig in at Chuck Todd at the beginning of his comments. "I wouldn't have you do a breaking story on national security, and you know it." SLAM! Called him(and the rest of the press) out for the gossip-jockey that he is.
they're not even press, they're glorified Weekly World News writers
I never thought the MSM would start to become weirder than the tabloids I read as a teenager for laughs
never DREAMED
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:02:03pm |
Hehe... the FoxNation article on the Certificate is now over 5400 comments... they just aren't satisfied. Who could have guessed that?
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:02:16pm |
What Obama needs to do is to arrange 250 million certified copies of his Birth Certifcate get mailed via certified mail, then make sure he gets signed receipts from every American certifying they have received the documents. Until that occurs, its obvious that Obama has something to hide.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:02:32pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Awesome science, graphs, arrows and heat maps from Crazy Pam...
Layering: Obama's New COLB Raises More Questions than it Answers
I knew she'd do this. She has to. She's completely painted herself into a corner.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:02:33pm |
re: #276 Sionainn
do you also have to deal with people on facebook advancing these theories? :D
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:02:36pm |
re: #273 Cankles McCellulite
What's funnier is, i even had my purse strapped on. Why? I'm not even sure, maybe i thought i might need some gum later, or freshen my lipstick after they pulled me from the rubble.
hey what ever happens to ya best to look good doing it...
I always comb my hair before a knife fight, just in case.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:03:06pm |
re: #278 freetoken
Hehe... the FoxNation article on the Certificate is now over 5400 comments... they just aren't satisfied. Who could have guessed that?
Its nothing till its over 9000.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:03:17pm |
re: #267 commadore183
Bleh, I boned that one.
re: #256 palomino
So the response of Gingrich and the birthers is, "Why did it take him so long to release his birth certificate?"
First, he already did release it--3 years ago. It's been online ever since.
Second, why should he be held to a different standard than previous presidents? None of whom were asked to provide long form birth certificates.
Hey, hey man, you do know he's black, right? Oh, and look at his name. What real 'mericans would be named Obama? COMMIE AFRIKAN MOOSLEMS, THAT'S WHO!!!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:03:18pm |
re: #279 kragar (proud to be kafir)
What Obama needs to do is to arrange 250 million certified copies of his Birth Certifcate get mailed via certified mail, then make sure he gets signed receipts from every American certifying they have received the documents. Until that occurs, its obvious that Obama has something to hide.
I think Obamam should stage a competing COLB release
just make the whole GOP into a farce, Gingrich is taking the bait for sure
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:03:30pm |
re: #278 freetoken
Hehe... the FoxNation article on the Certificate is now over 5400 comments... they just aren't satisfied. Who could have guessed that?
Nobody. Even Nostradumass is shocked by that one.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:03:35pm |
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:03:39pm |
re: #280 Charles
I knew she'd do this. She has to. She's completely painted herself into a corner.
When all you got is crazy, you got to stick to crazy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:04:16pm |
re: #288 kragar (proud to be kafir)
When all you got is crazy, you got to stick to crazy.
she'll never go away, her fans are like Art Bell fans
She coud start talking about the apocalypse, they'd love it!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:04:29pm |
re: #275 darthstar
I enjoyed Obama's getting a dig in at Chuck Todd at the beginning of his comments. "I wouldn't have you do a breaking story on national security, and you know it." SLAM! Called him(and the rest of the press) out for the gossip-jockey that he is.
Chuck Todd is getting reamed on twitter for hosting Trump. Reamed. Nice evening eh Chuck?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:04:36pm |
re: #288 kragar (proud to be kafir)
when your fanbase is nuts, then nothing you say will ever be too crazy
perfect!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:04:52pm |
re: #290 Stanley Sea
Chuck Todd is getting reamed on twitter for hosting Trump. Reamed. Nice evening eh Chuck?
what's his twitter, I'll digitally grope him
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:05:01pm |
re: #283 kragar (proud to be kafir)
Their comment system appears to be breaking down... comment counts aren't adding up correctly, and sometimes the page comes up blank for me.
The President certainly knows how to increase Oprah's ratings...
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:05:06pm |
re: #291 WindUpBird
Business models have been built on less ;)
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:06:09pm |
Any Alabama Lizards out there? That state is getting the shit kicked out of it today. Fatalities in numerous towns. I'm watching the feed from channel 33/40 and the video is just...brutal.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:06:10pm |
re: #291 WindUpBird
when your fanbase is nuts, then nothing you say will ever be too crazy
perfect!
"Obama is putting babies on spikes, but they hid the evidence. Don't let the MSM tell you different!"
"Well, We can't say he didn't with 100% certainty."
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:06:13pm |
re: #291 WindUpBird
when your fanbase is nuts, then nothing you say will ever be too crazy
perfect!
Yes I will hold that against you someday... boyd.
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:06:53pm |
re: #281 WindUpBird
do you also have to deal with people on facebook advancing these theories? :D
Not too much. The only people who would do that have probably blocked me from their feeds since I've challenged a few people in the past and posted proof to show they were wrong. For some reason, some people don't like that. Go figure.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:06:53pm |
You know what else was bitching? The family of the Dr. who delivered the future president found that out today.
They are thrilled.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:07:17pm |
re: #294 windsagio
Business models have been built on less ;)
oh yeah!
Pam geller figured out what I figured out, internetwise
Your brand is everything, once you have a brand, do whatever you want!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:07:19pm |
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:07:29pm |
re: #297 kragar (proud to be kafir)
"Obama is putting babies on spikes, but they hid the evidence. Don't let the MSM tell you different!"
"Well, We can't say he didn't with 100% certainty."
OK here comes the abortion thread and it's all your fault.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:07:42pm |
re: #300 Stanley Sea
I first read that as the family of Dr. Who.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:07:43pm |
re: #299 Sionainn
Not too much. The only people who would do that have probably blocked me from their feeds since I've challenged a few people in the past and posted proof to show they were wrong. For some reason, some people don't like that. Go figure.
they never do :)
it's all just tribalism anyway, the insatnt you question them, you are marked as an interloper
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:08:14pm |
re: #303 brookly red
OK here comes the abortion thread and it's all your fault.
Can't we just nip it in the bud?
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:08:41pm |
re: #296 austin_blue
Any Alabama Lizards out there? That state is getting the shit kicked out of it today. Fatalities in numerous towns. I'm watching the feed from channel 33/40 and the video is just...brutal.
Isn't Decatur Deb from Alabama?
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:09:43pm |
re: #307 Sionainn
Isn't Decatur Deb from Alabama?
I think he's down near Mobile. This is all north of Montgomery.
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:10:14pm |
re: #308 austin_blue
I think he's down near Mobile. This is all north of Montgomery.
Ah, okay. Hope he and his wife are okay.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:10:40pm |
re: #306 kragar (proud to be kafir)
Can't we just nip it in the bud?
OK watch this...
Soooo whats for dinner?
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:11:11pm |
I saw that, Decatur Deb. How's the weather where you are?
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:11:33pm |
ABC 33/40 is showing a live report from Tuscaloosa showing a lot of damage to the city.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:11:37pm |
re: #307 Sionainn
Isn't Decatur Deb from Alabama?
Sho 'nuff. Both our daughters are in counties with tornados on the ground, but both have been missed. Dau 2 has another one lined up on her in about 45 min. Stanley Sea posted a TV link that I'm using to warn the kids--they have cell, but lost power/cable. Later.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:12:23pm |
So the birthers won't have the long form certificate to crow about anymore (except those who contend it's a forgery).
They'll just move on to his "Kenyan worldview", his Muslim father, his time living in Indonesia, etc. Anything to make him seem exotic and less American than the rest of us. Repugnant garbage.
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Sionainn Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:12:44pm |
Oh, heck. I'm glad you have a way to reach them with info.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:12:56pm |
re: #313 Decatur Deb
Hope your daughters come out of this okay.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:14:32pm |
Geller's Photoshop experiments are just embarrassing.
Seriously. Are there actually people who fall for that?
I took one look and I know exactly what she did -- she imported the PDF into Photoshop "as Images". There are two choices when you open a PDF, Pages or Images. The Images option rasterizes the document and loses a lot of other information, resulting in the blanked out image she posted.
Import it as "Pages" and it looks just fine. So of course, she didn't do that.
Note that the default when you open a PDF is "Pages," so she probably did that first, then used the other one because it looked "suspicious."
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:14:36pm |
re: #313 Decatur Deb
Sho 'nuff. Both our daughters are in counties with tornados on the ground, but both have been missed. Dau 2 has another one lined up on her in about 45 min. Stanley Sea posted a TV link that I'm using to warn the kids--they have cell, but lost power/cable. Later.
I am serious Deb, not making fun. I see the folks in Israel needing shelters... is that how it is round your way?
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:14:41pm |
re: #314 palomino
So the birthers won't have the long form certificate to crow about anymore (except those who contend it's a forgery).
They'll just move on to his "Kenyan worldview", his Muslim father, his time living in Indonesia, etc. Anything to make him seem exotic and less American than the rest of us. Repugnant garbage.
The latest BS, apparently, is that he waited "too long" to release it. That he "should" have released it back when they started demanding it and his failure to do so makes him look like he's got something to hide. That it's a "failure" of his belief in transparent government that he didn't release it before now.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:15:17pm |
re: #310 brookly red
OK watch this...
Sooo whats for dinner?
Pork tenderloin marinated in a lemon garlic sauce, Au Gratin Potatoes, green peas and four cheese Texas toast. You?
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:15:35pm |
re: #313 Decatur Deb
Sho 'nuff. Both our daughters are in counties with tornados on the ground, but both have been missed. Dau 2 has another one lined up on her in about 45 min. Stanley Sea posted a TV link that I'm using to warn the kids--they have cell, but lost power/cable. Later.
I'm holding a good thought for you and yours, DD. It missed Monte Bello. (sp?)
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:15:40pm |
re: #314 palomino
It will be more difficult for them to cover up their racism by complaining about non-compliance of birthright. Now they will steer more and more clearly to discussing the supposed Kenyan-Communism link (that nasty "anti-colonialism" with which they like to paint the President), along with adding the Moslem father and Islamic early education.
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:16:04pm |
Right now on TV O'Donnell said Trump could have announced today without calling into play the equal time thing. He could have announced but Trump is not as "he has not legally filed the papers. He could have gone to the end of the season in May. He said NBC is letting him do it." Now he is totally trashing NBC entertainment division. Interesting. O'Donnell wants NBC to release the info on Trump as they have already released information on other shows returning fir the fall like "30 Rock". He blames NBC besides Trump for exploiting the birther issue.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:16:25pm |
Do you think it's a fake? No? Then why the fuck did you say it? Matthews is rightly calling them on their hedging...fucking losers.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:16:55pm |
re: #320 Bubblehead II
Pork tenderloin marinated in a lemon garlic sauce, Au Gratin Potatoes, green peas and four cheese Texas toast. You?
don't know yet but I salute your Au Gratin potatoes!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:17:15pm |
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:17:23pm |
re: #317 Charles
Geller's Photoshop experiments are just embarrassing.
Seriously. Are there actually people who fall for that?
My rule of thumb, when it comes to humanity, is that 99% of people are idiots. Seems to work for me.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:18:12pm |
re: #317 Charles
Seriously. Are there actually people who fall for that?
Yes.
Oh, and the Raelians are still in business, and are promoting seminars all over the world.
You're mi$$ing the boat. Think of the million$ you could have made by now.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:18:38pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:18:46pm |
re: #318 brookly red
I am serious Deb, not making fun. I see the folks in Israel needing shelters... is that how it is round your way?
Thanks--We've usually had some kind of shelter, including a gas-tight reinforced concrete one when we lived in Ra'anana. We hand-dug one in KY when we were younger.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:19:12pm |
re: #319 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The latest BS, apparently, is that he waited "too long" to release it. That he "should" have released it back when they started demanding it and his failure to do so makes him look like he's got something to hide. That it's a "failure" of his belief in transparent government that he didn't release it before now.
Of course they can't give him any actual credit for anything. But the fact is that he actually did release his official short form birth certificate 3 years ago, and it was good enough for all sane people.
Birthers are frightened little xenophobes...because it ain't their granpappy's America any more. Fuck em.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:20:09pm |
re: #321 austin_blue
Montevallo--college town. That is the same storm that has been skipping along the towns from Miss to (now) nr TN.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:20:16pm |
Tornado Emergency for Cobb City.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:20:42pm |
re: #330 Decatur Deb
Thanks--We've usually had some kind of shelter, including a gas-tight reinforced concrete one when we lived in Ra'anana. We hand-dug one in KY when we were younger.
Dang. I wonder what is was like before radar, and internet and all...
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:21:13pm |
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:21:32pm |
re: #322 freetoken
It will be more difficult for them to cover up their racism by complaining about non-compliance of birthright. Now they will steer more and more clearly to discussing the supposed Kenyan-Communism link (that nasty "anti-colonialism" with which they like to paint the President), along with adding the Moslem father and Islamic early education.
The irony is that the tea partier birthers, who claim to be so respectful of our nation's early history, don't seem to realize that the Founding Fathers were a big group of hardcore anti-colonialists.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:21:59pm |
re: #334 brookly red
Dang. I wonder what is was like before radar, and internet and all...
You watched the chickens--when you see one without feathers, you're near a tornado.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:22:14pm |
re: #333 commadore183
It's the same tornado that hit Tuscaloosa earlier according to the FOX 6 news guy.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:22:26pm |
re: #327 commadore183
My rule of thumb, when it comes to humanity, is that 99% of people are idiots. Seems to work for me.
the term Elitist comes to mind.
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yoshicastmaster Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:23:45pm |
HAHAHA
that was awesome. way to go chris matthews. much props.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:23:52pm |
re: #336 palomino
The irony is that the tea partier birthers, who claim to be so respectful of our nation's early history, don't seem to realize that the Founding Fathers were a big group of hardcore anti-colonialists.
wtf?
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:24:04pm |
re: #320 Bubblehead II
Pork tenderloin marinated in a lemon garlic sauce, Au Gratin Potatoes, green peas and four cheese Texas toast. You?
Southwest marinated pork tenderloin on the grill, wild rice and bacon/cabbage/granny smith apples.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:24:11pm |
re: #339 brookly red
You call it elitist, I call it extremely cynical and pessimistic about humanity.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:25:02pm |
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:25:44pm |
re: #343 commadore183
OK so your better than the other 99%... that is why I can't do left any more.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:25:55pm |
re: #343 commadore183
You call it elitist, I call it extremely cynical and pessimistic about humanity.
And of course, you're part of the 1 percent?
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:25:57pm |
re: #332 Decatur Deb
Montevallo--college town. That is the same storm that has been skipping along the towns from Miss to (now) nr TN.
It's still on the ground south of Gadsden. One Bad Motherfucker of a storm.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:26:47pm |
re: #346 Walter L. Newton
Remains to be seen. I could be part of the 99% or not. We'll just have to wait and see.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:26:52pm |
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:27:30pm |
Cripes. Now they're peeing their pants about PDF layering in the long form BC.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:27:38pm |
re: #348 commadore183
Remains to be seen. I could be part of the 99% or not. We'll just have to wait and see.
Only an idiot wouldn't know.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:27:39pm |
Tornado moving to the Montevallo area, coming in about 12 minutes or so. This is the tornado that spawned the tornado emergency a few minutes ago.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:28:02pm |
re: #340 yoshicastmaster
HAHAHA
that was awesome. way to go chris matthews. much props.
It's interesting watching these assholes squirm. They know they should just give a direct answer, but they're so afraid of their own voters that they can't.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:28:06pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:28:15pm |
Actually, to be precise, Geller picked a comment from Free Republic that contained the bogus Photoshop import. She probably doesn't have a clue how to open a PDF in Photoshop.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:29:35pm |
re: #344 Bubblehead II
re: #326 Stanley Sea
One of these days I will teach myself how to make them from scratch. Until then, I will use the box.
It is incredibly easy. There is this recipe, but it is easy to modify and come up with one of your own that is even better. I sometimes add bits of sausage, various vegetables, whatever.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:30:02pm |
re: #355 Charles
Actually, to be precise, Geller picked a comment from Free Republic that contained the bogus Photoshop import. She probably doesn't have a clue how to open a PDF in Photoshop.
Best to sit and have others confirm that you're a fool, than to open your mouth and spew magenta colored bullshit across a person's used-to-be face.
(May have messed up that saying a bit)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:30:54pm |
re: #7 dragonfire1981
The right wing of today continues to astound me. A Conservative friend of mine has been teaching her 5 year old that the correct thing to do if President Obama shows up at the door is "get the gun."
She could not understand why I didn't think it was funny.
Jesus, that's a bit much, isn't it?
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:31:20pm |
re: #348 commadore183
Remains to be seen. I could be part of the 99% or not. We'll just have to wait and see.
no, no really it is all out there
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:31:36pm |
re: #10 Slumbering Behemoth
I think your friend is terribly confused about conservatism.
Yeah, I'm reasonably sure that in no dictionary will 'conservative' be defined as 'person who advocates political assassinations'. And yet, folks do persist in claiming the title...
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:03pm |
Emergency Management is reporting multiple fatalities south of Birmingham in Pleasant Grove.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:06pm |
re: #359 SanFranciscoZionist
Jesus, that's a bit much, isn't it?
You think? We teach our 5 year old not to touch real guns. (As opposed to Nerf, in which case his brothers are unsuccessfully attempting him not to touch their guns.)
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:13pm |
re: #351 Walter L. Newton
Only an idiot wouldn't know.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Also
[Link: www.smbc-comics.com...]
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:25pm |
re: #341 brookly red
wtf?
Obama has been criticized harshly by Gingrich, Huckabee and others for having an "anti-colonialist" worldview. Our nation was founded by anti-colonialists.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:33pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:48pm |
re: #15 ralphieboy
Wow, they start waxing philosophical, "what is truth? what is reality? what is a birth certificate?"
"What IS the meaning of is? Were we too hasty when we made fun of Clinton for saying that?"
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:32:54pm |
AllahPundit has no interest in educating his readers, he'll just feed them whatever they want....
The more evidence there is of Obama’s Hawaiian birth, the more evidence there is to be questioned, right? NRO’s already found enough attacks on the long-form birth certificate published this morning to warrant a whole new round of debunking. Judging from our own inbox, the most popular one has to do with the PDF of the document consisting of multiple “layers”; Nathan Goulding, National Review’s tech guy, shot that one down, but if Trump decides to double down tomorrow by questioning the authenticity of the new document, my guess is that’s the line of skepticism he’ll take.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:33:40pm |
re: #365 palomino
Obama has been criticized harshly by Gingrich, Huckabee and others for having an "anti-colonialist" worldview. Our nation was founded by anti-colonialists.
This country was founded by pro-colonists, anti-telling-me-what-do-di-ists.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:33:41pm |
Ya'll remember, this POTUS was pissed at the George Stephanapolis (sp? who cares) interview that went birther, rather than our country's financial situ. He understood that the mainstream media had taken a bite and was fucking pissed.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:33:51pm |
re: #352 commadore183
Tornado moving to the Montevallo area, coming in about 12 minutes or so. This is the tornado that spawned the tornado emergency a few minutes ago.
That's the next one aimed at Dau 2, NE of Birmingham.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:33:52pm |
re: #35 goddamnedfrank
They're going to deliberately ignore the fact that he had to seek an exception to the rules, one that was only granted because of their incessant lying bullshit.
"See? See? He thinks he's special. He thinks the rules don't apply to him!"
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:34:06pm |
re: #369 EmmmieG
This country was founded by pro-colonists, anti-telling-me-what-do-di-ists.
Close enough.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:34:09pm |
re: #365 palomino
Obama has been criticized harshly by Gingrich, Huckabee and others for having an "anti-colonialist" worldview. Our nation was founded by anti-colonialists.
no, no don't even try.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:34:27pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:35:10pm |
re: #342 austin_blue
Southwest marinated pork tenderloin on the grill, wild rice and bacon/cabbage/granny smith apples.
I plan on doing one using the rotisserie that I got for the grill. I think a Mesquite BBQ sauce would be good. Served with Angel Hair Pasta and Green Beans. Simple but good.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:35:43pm |
re: #375 palomino
Try what?
I don't even remember, but your wrong what ever it was ... and get of my lawn!
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:36:13pm |
re: #368 Killgore Trout
AllahPundit has no interest in educating his readers, he'll just feed them whatever they want...
Let him go for it. If Trump wants to double down, then that's on his head. If the GOP leadership doesn't want to call an end to this bullshit and muzzle him, that's on theirs.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:36:35pm |
re: #377 brookly red
I don't even remember, but your wrong what ever it was ... and get of my lawn!
OK, old man. BTW, your lawn is overgrown with weeds.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:36:49pm |
re: #376 Bubblehead II
I plan on doing one using the rotisserie that I got for the grill. I think a Mesquite BBQ sauce would be good. Served with Angel Hair Pasta and Green Beans. Simple but good.
chop some veggies in yer pasta
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:37:16pm |
Got Tweetdeck running for good this time. Helps provide a tard-free experience.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:37:24pm |
re: #376 Bubblehead II
I plan on doing one using the rotisserie that I got for the grill. I think a Mesquite BBQ sauce would be good. Served with Angel Hair Pasta and Green Beans. Simple but good.
Heh, I'm getting ready to fire up the grill too. Pork loin madinated in apple cider vinegar, honey, red pepper and garlic. Served with quinoa and collard greens.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:37:28pm |
Talladega Superspeedway may get hit by a tornado here soon.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:38:11pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:38:33pm |
re: #385 Gus 802
Tweety really lays it down with these Tea Klux Klan members.
What are you talking about?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:38:43pm |
re: #379 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Let him go for it. If Trump wants to double down, then that's on his head. If the GOP leadership doesn't want to call an end to this bullshit and muzzle him, that's on theirs.
You think having his casino go bankrupt would teach him not to double down on a bad bet.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:39:06pm |
re: #387 Walter L. Newton
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about the Tea Klux Klan. Got any other questions?
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:39:09pm |
re: #384 commadore183
Talladega Superspeedway may get hit by a tornado here soon.
The motosports fan inside of me is screaming "NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Again, hoping for the best for everyone in the crosshairs of these storms.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:39:25pm |
re: #389 Gus 802
I'm talking about the Tea Klux Klan. Got any other questions?
Yes... that is "tweety?"
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:39:50pm |
re: #379 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Let him go for it. If Trump wants to double down, then that's on his head. If the GOP leadership doesn't want to call an end to this bullshit and muzzle him, that's on theirs.
It's been interesting watching the reaction today. The few people who have spoken out against birtherism (like Shep Smith) still get shit on. Republican leaders don't want to tackle the issue, pundits who speak out and still labeled traitors. Every body wants to ride the bus but nobody wants to drive.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:40:40pm |
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:40:41pm |
I was going to do some shrimp/chicken kabobs. But I have so much shrimp I think I will hold off on that plan and invite some friends over tomorrow.
Albuquerque sourdough + havarti it is.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:41:10pm |
As evidenced by this NRO lead article (top left online column) and its comments:
Even supposedly "educated" self declared conservatives really want to find ways to keep exploiting this issue to raise hatred towards President Obama.
The reality is simply this: the complaints were never about the law (of certificates, etc.)
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:41:12pm |
re: #389 Gus 802
I'm talking about the Tea Klux Klan. Got any other questions?
OK I can't any reason to continue this.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:41:12pm |
The historical irony is simple. It was a great thing 200 years ago when Americans rebelled against British colonial power. But when an African nation did the same thing in the last century, that somehow becomes scary and marks Obama as a dangerous radical anti-colonialist. Total bullshit.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:41:29pm |
Large tornado on the ground 6 miles north of Piedmont or so, if I caught that right.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:41:38pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:41:48pm |
re: #397 freetoken
As evidenced by this NRO lead article (top left online column) and its comments:
Even supposedly "educated" self declared conservatives really want to find ways to keep exploiting this issue to raise hatred towards President Obama.
The reality is simply this: the complaints were never about the law (of certificates, etc.)
It's racism. Flat out racism. I no longer have any doubt.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:42:37pm |
re: #399 palomino
The historical irony is simple. It was a great thing 200 years ago when Americans rebelled against British colonial power. But when an African nation did the same thing in the last century, that somehow becomes scary and marks Obama as a dangerous radical anti-colonialist. Total bullshit.
what are you talking about ? could you at least name a country?
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:42:45pm |
re: #392 Killgore Trout
It's been interesting watching the reaction today. The few people who have spoken out against birtherism (like Shep Smith) still get shit on. Republican leaders don't want to tackle the issue, pundits who speak out and still labeled traitors. Every body wants to ride the bus but nobody wants to drive.
The GOP's not gonna kill this particular golden goose, because they seem to think birtherism is something that they can parlay into an "energized base," if nothing else. They won't actively stoke the fires, but they're willing to turn a blind eye to ones who will, Trump being at the head of the class.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:42:53pm |
re: #403 Charles
For example, this comment from that NRO thread:
John of Virginia
04/27/11 16:17Look, I'm satisfied that Obama is a natural born American citizen.
Yet isn't it passing strange that "African," a place of origin, is used for race? I've known a few whites from South Africa who, also were "African" but would not have been so listed on a birth certificate.
It would be interesting to see any other birth certificates that Hawaii issued about that time for other parents from Africa who happened to be black.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:42:58pm |
re: #383 Killgore Trout
Heh, I'm getting ready to fire up the grill too. Pork loin madinated in apple cider vinegar, honey, red pepper and garlic. Served with quinoa and collard greens.
Well tonight's dinner is going to done in the oven. The BBQ tenderloin is planned for sometime in the near future.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:43:01pm |
re: #355 Charles
Actually, to be precise, Geller picked a comment from Free Republic that contained the bogus Photoshop import. She probably doesn't have a clue how to open a PDF in Photoshop.
Did anyone point out to her PDFs didn't even exist when Obama was born?
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PhillyPretzel Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:43:13pm |
re: #397 freetoken
There are some people who no matter how something is proven will not believe it even if it is the truth.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:43:45pm |
I bet Phillips and Smith like to listen to old LPs of Johnny Rebel songs.
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HAL2010 Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:44:00pm |
re: #410 kragar (proud to be kafir)
Did anyone point out to her PDFs didn't even exist when Obama was born?
Oh god, don't tell them that, they'll go nuts!
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brookly red Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:44:45pm |
re: #405 Gus 802
Tea Klux Klan
well you have succeeded in convincing me that there is no purpose for me to continue with this thread
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:45:11pm |
Really? We're comparing the Tea Party to people who fire bombed buses, murdered people, etc?
People on both sides need to seriously get a grip.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:45:14pm |
re: #413 HAL2010
Oh god, don't tell them that, they'll go nuts!
Its like yelling "SQUIRREL" at my folk's dog.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:45:38pm |
re: #414 brookly red
well you have succeeded in convincing me that there is no purpose for me to continue with this thread
You're choice. It's a big country and it's a big internet. Sorry for practicing my 1st Amendment rights. Have a good one.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:45:44pm |
re: #406 brookly red
what are you talking about ? could you at least name a country?
never heard Kenya and Obama mentioned together, huh? It was a British colony, the Kenyans fought back, as others did against European colonizers in many other African nations. History 101.
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Interesting Times Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:46:14pm |
re: #385 Gus 802
Tweety really lays it down with these Tea Klux Klan members.
So do CBC reporter Neil McDonald:
[clip from Obama's press conference] "We have better stuff to do."
McDonald: "But conspiracy theorists don't."
Burn of beauty :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:46:42pm |
re: #406 brookly red
what are you talking about ? could you at least name a country?
Kenya. The folks who fret that Obama has an 'anti-colonialist' attitude that he got from his Kenyan forebears. As though the United States wasn't born in a revolution against a colonial power, and as though it were a bad thing to think that your people could run their own damn country.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:47:35pm |
re: #403 Charles
It's racism. Flat out racism. I no longer have any doubt.
Especially today, after seeing the reaction on youtube and around the web, I don't have much doubt either. It's a delusional attempt to exclude blacks from American society. No matter how much evidence is presented there is a certain segment that will never accept that a black man could get an education and be qualified to be president. I think it's going to become glaringly clear in the next round investigating his educational records and the accusations of affirmative action. The birther thing will pale in comparison.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:47:39pm |
BTW. If you're on Twitter block LudwigVanQuixote. That's not him.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:48:19pm |
re: #415 McSpiff
Really? We're comparing the Tea Party to people who fire bombed buses, murdered people, etc?
People on both sides need to seriously get a grip.
Quite. The People of the Tea are annoying as hell, but so far they haven't got a death toll.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:48:33pm |
That same tornado that hit Tuscaloosa earlier was still on the ground as it passed out from Alabama, if I caught that right.
Looks like a big mess at Alabaster on the ABC 33/40 stream. Lots of reds and oranges on the radar.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:49:08pm |
Frum calls it:
[...]
Now the more haunting question: How did this poisonous and not very subtly racist allegation get such a grip on our conservative movement and our Republican party?
I know there will be Republican writers and conservative publicists who will now deny that birtherism ever did get a grip. Sorry, that’s just wrong. Not only did Trump surge ahead in Republican polls by flaming racial fires – not only did conservative media outlets from Fox to Drudge to the Breitbart sites indulge the birthers – but so also did every Republican candidate who said, “I take the president at his word.” Birthers did not doubt the president’s “word.” They were doubting the official records of the state of Hawaii. It’s like answering a 9/11 conspiracist by saying, “I take the 9/11 families at their word that they lost their loved ones.”
Yet even now, the racialist aspect of the anti-Obama movement has not subsided. Trump has moved from the birth certificate to questioning the president’s academic qualifications for the Harvard Law School. Trump himself was a troubled student (at one point he attended a military school) who nonetheless gained admission to Wharton. His father’s wealth and business success cannot have hurt with that application. Yet he feels himself qualified to pronounce on who is and who is not smart enough to attend Harvard Law. Barack Obama graduated magna cum laude. (And to anticipate a new line of attack – yes, Harvard Law School exams were blind-graded.) He was elected editor of the law review. And his classmates, left and right, universally admired his abilities.
I wish it were otherwise, but it does seem that these racialized attacks on Obama have exacted a toll on him. But they also have exacted a toll on the opposition to Obama. The too-faint repudiation of birtherism by regular Republicans has shaped not only the Obama brand, but also the Republican brand. It was not only white people who heard the implied message about who counts and who does not count as a “real American.”
[...]
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:50:20pm |
Report of a tornado on the ground at Montevallo.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:50:51pm |
The Bronx Zoo's Cobra Tweets:
Could I convince you to release one more thing today @BarackObama? #helpasnakeout
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:52:14pm |
Oh yeah. Spend the last two years calling the president every single slanderous and racist word in the dictionary including pushing birtherism and every other presidential crackpot theory and I'm hurting the Tea Party's poor wittle feewings by calling the the Tea Klux Klan. Pardon me for not giving a shit.
:) Smiley face!
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:52:57pm |
Now, Orly Taints is on Lawrence O'Donnell. This is never going to be over. She said the President is a liar. Now he throws her off his show.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:53:16pm |
re: #429 SanFranciscoZionist
The Bronx Zoo's Cobra Tweets:
Could I convince you to release one more thing today @BarackObama? #helpasnakeout
I LOL'D so hard @ that one!!!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:53:46pm |
Lawrence O'Donnell just made a huge scene of throwing Orly Taitz off his show.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:53:57pm |
re: #430 Gus 802
Oh yeah. Spend the last two years calling the president every single slanderous and racist word in the dictionary including pushing birtherism and every other presidential crackpot theory and I'm hurting the Tea Party's poor wittle feewings by calling the the Tea Klux Klan. Pardon me for not giving a shit.
:) Smiley face!
MBF.
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webevintage Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:54:40pm |
I swear to God, I think I heard Orly Taitz say "Harvard is not preparing human beings" on Lawrence O'Donnell... WTF?
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:54:45pm |
re: #433 Charles
Lawrence O'Donnell just made a huge scene of throwing Orly Taitz off his show.
That was probably the point of having her on.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:54:48pm |
re: #431 justaminute
Now, Orly Taints is on Lawrence O'Donnell. This is never going to be over. She said the President is a liar. Now he throws her off his show.
Unfortunately that puts him in the same place as Chuck Todd interviewing Trump. Giving cover to freaks. Not good Lawrence.
SNL, ok, but that lady doesn't belong on anything other than a comedy show.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:54:48pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:55:06pm |
re: #426 freetoken
Frum calls it:
From Frum:
I wish it were otherwise, but it does seem that these racialized attacks on Obama have exacted a toll on him. But they also have exacted a toll on the opposition to Obama. The too-faint repudiation of birtherism by regular Republicans has shaped not only the Obama brand, but also the Republican brand. It was not only white people who heard the implied message about who counts and who does not count as a “real American.”
He's soft-pedaling it. People of color were crying all over the internet, including here. It's so sad. I want Obama to kick somebody's ass to cheer them up, but I don't think that would do it.
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palomino Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:55:09pm |
re: #433 Charles
Lawrence O'Donnell just made a huge scene of throwing Orly Taitz off his show.
Good, she deserves it.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:55:52pm |
re: #430 Gus 802
Oh yeah. Spend the last two years calling the president every single slanderous and racist word in the dictionary including pushing birtherism and every other presidential crackpot theory and I'm hurting the Tea Party's poor wittle feewings by calling the the Tea Klux Klan. Pardon me for not giving a shit.
:) Smiley face!
You're not hurting the Tea Party in the least. You're disrespecting the victims of the Klu Klux Klan. Despsite my absolute disgust at the Tea Party, I get to battle them with words, rallies and elections. Its highly unlikely I'll ever need to give up my life in this fight. Many of those who fought the KKK and similar groups to desegregate the south were not so lucky. Nor were many otherwise innocent citizens that lost their lives at the hands of the KKK.
TL;DR Grow up.
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Targetpractice Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:56:01pm |
re: #437 webevintage
I swear to God, I think I heard Orly Taitz say "Harvard is not preparing human beings" on Lawrence O'Donnell... WTF?
"Preparing human beings"? Oh no, she's found out the truth about To Serve Man!
//
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:56:46pm |
re: #444 McSpiff
You're not hurting the Tea Party in the least. You're disrespecting the victims of the Klu Klux Klan. Despsite my absolute disgust at the Tea Party, I get to battle them with words, rallies and elections. Its highly unlikely I'll ever need to give up my life in this fight. Many of those who fought the KKK and similar groups to desegregate the south were not so lucky. Nor were many otherwise innocent citizens that lost their lives at the hands of the KKK.
TL;DR Grow up.
Whatever McSpiff V2.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:56:54pm |
re: #442 palomino
Good, she deserves it.
She didn't deserve the attention of being on the show to begin with.
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dell*nix Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:57:22pm |
Supposedly 25 dead from the Alabama storms. Cannot be verified until daylight tomorrow.
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PhillyPretzel Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:58:48pm |
re: #446 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Hmm. Prepaing humans? How about a "Modest Proposal?"
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:59:04pm |
re: #441 wrenchwench
From Frum:
He's soft-pedaling it. People of color were crying all over the internet, including here. It's so sad. I want Obama to kick somebody's ass to cheer them up, but I don't think that would do it.
So fucking true.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 5:59:14pm |
re: #443 Gus 802
Climategate emails? How did they get there? LOL
You're memory is failing you. I never discussed a single email... it was "harry's" text document on his history with the software. If you're going to mock me, at least get the details correct, otherwise, you look stupid.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:00:56pm |
re: #447 Gus 802
Whatever McSpiff V2.
I had the argument with LVQ about comparing the Tea Party to the Nazi Party. I initially disagreed with what I thought was hyperbole, as I'm saying to you. He made a convincing argument as to the evolution, motivations and origins of both groups that I conceded the point, there was in fact a valid comparison.
If you can do the same with the KKK, I'd be happy to concede the point again. Otherwise hyperbole helps nothing.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:01:41pm |
re: #456 McSpiff
I had the argument with LVQ about comparing the Tea Party to the Nazi Party. I initially disagreed with what I thought was hyperbole, as I'm saying to you. He made a convincing argument as to the evolution, motivations and origins of both groups that I conceded the point, there was in fact a valid comparison.
If you can do the same with the KKK, I'd be happy to concede the point again. Otherwise hyperbole helps nothing.
Well. I didn't realize I walked into a church. I'll be here if you need me. Otherwise, bugger off mate.
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Aye Pod Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:01:53pm |
re: #445 Gus 802
Woot! Jimmah's in da house.
Just checking in for a quick peek before bed, I'm afraid. Catch you later! :)
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:02:02pm |
re: #457 Gus 802
Well. I didn't realize I walked into a church. I'll be here if you need me. Otherwise, bugger off mate.
lol.....
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:02:20pm |
re: #458 Jimmah
[Video]Just checking in for a quick peek before bed, I'm afraid. Catch you later! :)
Later Jimmah! Say hi to Iceweasel! She rules!
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:02:38pm |
re: #457 Gus 802
Well. I didn't realize I walked into a church. I'll be here if you need me. Otherwise, bugger off mate.
Its ok if you don't have an answer, but I'm not sure why you appear to be so scared of discussion when you're posting on a forum.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:02:42pm |
okay, i found my twitter voice
I'm just going to be Triumph the Insult Comic Bird, so anytime you want me to mock someone, just send them my way
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:03:11pm |
re: #456 McSpiff
LVQ is dead to me, screw that guy, he's not sane
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:03:30pm |
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:03:39pm |
re: #462 WindUpBird
okay, i found my twitter voice
I'm just going to be Triumph the Insult Comic Bird, so anytime you want me to mock someone, just send them my way
For you to poop on?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:03:54pm |
re: #456 McSpiff
he compared a blog war to israel/Palestine
He's cracked, dude, he's not a...what do they call it in film? "A reliable narrator"
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:03:58pm |
re: #448 SanFranciscoZionist
She didn't deserve the attention of being on the show to begin with.
Exactly. Lawrence enjoys feeding off his own emotions.
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:04:07pm |
re: #462 WindUpBird
okay, i found my twitter voice
I'm just going to be Triumph the Insult Comic Bird, so anytime you want me to mock someone, just send them my way
me me... let it be me!
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:04:08pm |
re: #461 McSpiff
Its ok if you don't have an answer, but I'm not sure why you appear to be so scared of discussion when you're posting on a forum.
I'm not scared of discussion. You don't want me to say Tea Klux Klan and I do. Tea Klux Klan. Deal with it. If Charles tells me to knock it off then I will.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:04:13pm |
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:04:27pm |
re: #466 WindUpBird
he compared a blog war to israel/Palestine
He's cracked, dude, he's not a...what do they call it in film? "A reliable narrator"
Ah yeah, I was here for that. Another perfect example of "hyperbole isn't helpful"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:04:37pm |
re: #464 McSpiff
What I miss?
let's just say I'm done being bullied by religious people on this blog forever.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:04:49pm |
re: #471 McSpiff
Ah yeah, I was here for that. Another perfect example of "hyperbole isn't helpful"
it got a million times worse
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:05:24pm |
re: #433 Charles
Lawrence O'Donnell just made a huge scene of throwing Orly Taitz off his show.
FOOTAGE! NEED FOOTAGE!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:05:32pm |
re: #456 McSpiff
I had the argument with LVQ about comparing the Tea Party to the Nazi Party. I initially disagreed with what I thought was hyperbole, as I'm saying to you. He made a convincing argument as to the evolution, motivations and origins of both groups that I conceded the point, there was in fact a valid comparison.
If you can do the same with the KKK, I'd be happy to concede the point again. Otherwise hyperbole helps nothing.
They're not Nazis and they're not the Klan.
This is not because they're not racists, nationalists, or what have you. It's because they remain, at the moment, a vicious, unpleasant, but non-lynching, non-invading body in the U.S. body politics.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:05:38pm |
re: #473 WindUpBird
it got a million times worse
Honestly sorry to hear that. I think I checked out fairly early that night.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:05:59pm |
re: #472 WindUpBird
let's just say I'm done being bullied by religious people on this blog forever.
How about a few friendly jabs from an atheist?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:06:02pm |
re: #474 WindUpBird
please tell me they physically had her strongarmed
Just like, Chicken Lady tossed out into a garbage can, that would be divine
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:06:23pm |
re: #476 McSpiff
Honestly sorry to hear that. I think I checked out fairly early that night.
you were right to do so *_*
Anyway, I'll drop it :P
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:06:55pm |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
How about a few friendly jabs from an atheist?
hahaha athiests never try and convert me! Some of my favorite sparring partners are athiests, because I'm not an athiest ^_^
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grimalkin Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:07:10pm |
Wow, got power back. Didn't know there were so many Alabaman Lizzards. We had a small tornado/straight line winds go by here this morning, maybe 6 blocks away, ya know the trees down roof crushed sort of thing. Then that monster came by about 1/2 a mile away. Wow. Kitties, husband and I were in the coal cellar. I hate the coal cellar, but leaving everything set up down there till the last two waves go by. They look like they will go well south of us, I hope so I hate the coal cellar, things live down there that are not welcome in house.
So I come up and out of the dark and we finally get power on today and I find the President released he's birth certificate? I wished he hadn't of done that he's just feeding the trolls/Trump.
What else have I missed?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:07:26pm |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
How about a few friendly jabs from an atheist?
like, i got friends who love penn and Teller more than their own grandma
OH the arguments we'd have, they'd go for hours
everyone was friends at the end though
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:07:33pm |
re: #433 Charles
Lawrence O'Donnell just made a huge scene of throwing Orly Taitz off his show.
Did she relish saying "negro" ??
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:07:53pm |
re: #472 WindUpBird
let's just say I'm done being bullied by religious people on this blog forever.
amen brother.... religion is a man made entity used to control. Spirituality and personal belief systems tend to be more honest. Had a similar discussion with a bloke who was on the business end of that discussion and found it wanting...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:08:01pm |
re: #483 Stanley Sea
Did she relish saying "negro" ??
hahahahaha of course she did
I like her haunted eyes
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:08:17pm |
re: #481 grimalkin
Nice to see that you and your family are okay.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:08:18pm |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
How about a few friendly jabs from an atheist?
An agnostic could join in, but I'll just hold your cloak because I'm not sure.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:08:44pm |
re: #482 WindUpBird
like, i got friends who love penn and Teller more than their own grandma
OH the arguments we'd have, they'd go for hours
everyone was friends at the end though
That's what's missing now a days... the ability to argue and the satisfaction of no matter the outcome, the fact that you still have friends... don't work that way much anymore.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:09:13pm |
re: #484 boxhead
amen brother... religion is a man made entity used to control. Spirituality and personal belief systems tend to be more honest. Had a similar discussion with a bloke who was on the business end of that discussion and found it wanting...
once religion starts taking in massive amounts of money, it's like any other hierarchy, just like government, just like corporations, just like gangs, just like fandom
believe whatever you like! But the institution scares me, because institutions perpetuate themselves
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:09:14pm |
Tomorrow to May 14 marks the 50th Anniversary of the Freedom Riders who braved southern mobs to integrate public restaurants, etc.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:09:27pm |
re: #475 SanFranciscoZionist
They're not Nazis and they're not the Klan.
This is not because they're not racists, nationalists, or what have you. It's because they remain, at the moment, a vicious, unpleasant, but non-lynching, non-invading body in the U.S. body politics.
I'm too lazy to dig out the thread now, but LVQ had a point beyond "NAZIS = BAD = TEA PARTY". Got into a discussion about the economy, veterans, scapegoating, etc. I wouldn't say I totally agreed with LVQ at the end of it, but he did present a fairly interesting narrative.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:09:51pm |
re: #475 SanFranciscoZionist
They're not Nazis and they're not the Klan.
This is not because they're not racists, nationalists, or what have you. It's because they remain, at the moment, a vicious, unpleasant, but non-lynching, non-invading body in the U.S. body politics.
I oppose them politically because I think their political ideas suck.
I oppose them socially because they're idiots.
But the Klan actively killed people. Black men sat awake all night, preparing to die defending themselves and their families if they saw them coming down the road. The Klan controlled people's lives. The Klan lynched and burned and terrorized.
The Tea Party is being pissy and racist about the President. It's not the same thing, no matter how annoying they may be.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:10:01pm |
re: #487 Decatur Deb
An agnostic could join in, but I'll just hold your cloak because I'm not sure.
I used to call myself agnostic, but I think I have ideas a little too kooky to be agnostic
I essentially believe in reincarnation, basically, or some form of machinery by which souls are not "destroyed"
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:10:37pm |
re: #489 WindUpBird
once religion starts taking in massive amounts of money, it's like any other hierarchy, just like government, just like corporations, just like gangs, just like fandom
believe whatever you like! But the institution scares me, because institutions perpetuate themselves
it becomes man.... not spirit. man is greedy and controlling and duplicitous. The Spirit is none of those things.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:11:00pm |
re: #492 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks for saying what I was trying to say, only better. Fancy-smancy arts degree...
Goes back to his partial differential equations
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:12:04pm |
re: #494 boxhead
it becomes man... not spirit. man is greedy and controlling and duplicitous. The Spirit is none of those things.
exactly!
The last thing I want is a human being leaning on me to believe in something unprovable
nobody is less qualified than another person to tell me how it is in the spirit realm or whatever :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:12:25pm |
re: #495 McSpiff
Thanks for saying what I was trying to say, only better. Fancy-smancy arts degree...
Goes back to his partial differential equations
you you SMART PERSON!
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:13:18pm |
re: #481 grimalkin
Wow, got power back. Didn't know there were so many Alabaman Lizzards. We had a small tornado/straight line winds go by here this morning, maybe 6 blocks away, ya know the trees down roof crushed sort of thing. Then that monster came by about 1/2 a mile away. Wow. Kitties, husband and I were in the coal cellar. I hate the coal cellar, but leaving everything set up down there till the last two waves go by. They look like they will go well south of us, I hope so I hate the coal cellar, things live down there that are not welcome in house.
So I come up and out of the dark and we finally get power on today and I find the President released he's birth certificate? I wished he hadn't of done that he's just feeding the trolls/Trump.
LOTS of dead people in your state. One F4 stayed together all the way from Mississippi to Georgia, where it is still huge. Nasty, nasty day.
What else have I missed?
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:13:32pm |
Alabama's EMA reports that at least 25 people have died from the tornadoes today.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:14:05pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:14:13pm |
re: #494 boxhead
it becomes man... not spirit. man is greedy and controlling and duplicitous. The Spirit is none of those things.
I believe we're all gonna die someday, and we'll all learn just how miniscule this planet is, like we were all killing each other all this time, and it was all just so simple and small and what were we so mad about?
Like getting into a blog war, for example. You leave the blog war for a while, then you can't figure out what the anger was all about
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:14:39pm |
re: #500 McSpiff
Oh God does that mean I'm an elitist?! ;_;
OH HEAVENS!
Where is your beret and long cigarette and tea shades? :D
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:14:40pm |
re: #496 WindUpBird
exactly!
The last thing I want is a human being leaning on me to believe in something unprovable
nobody is less qualified than another person to tell me how it is in the spirit realm or whatever :D
When asked to describe my belief, all I can say is that have felt something in my life that I cannot deny. And I cannot tell you how to find that except be open, and feel. Feel your soul, feel life, ... you know..
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:15:16pm |
re: #499 commadore183
Alabama's EMA reports that at least 25 people have died from the tornadoes today.
ugh
how much worse is this tornado thing going to get, if it really is AGW+more moisture = more tornadoes :(
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:16:26pm |
re: #490 Stanley Sea
Tomorrow to May 14 marks the 50th Anniversary of the Freedom Riders who braved southern mobs to integrate public restaurants, etc.
A celebration is planned for Anniston, unfortunately there is a tornado on the ground there now. Both daughters have a tornado within 10 mi on them at the moment. Talledega is under threat again.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:16:40pm |
re: #491 McSpiff
I'm too lazy to dig out the thread now, but LVQ had a point beyond "NAZIS = BAD = TEA PARTY". Got into a discussion about the economy, veterans, scapegoating, etc. I wouldn't say I totally agreed with LVQ at the end of it, but he did present a fairly interesting narrative.
I've heard at least some of his argument, and I do agree that there are some common elements present, in terms of the social situation leading up to their development, and certain lines of thought.
However, they are hindered by a far more stable and long-standing governmental body than the Nazis faced, they are far less focused and more multi-faceted, they are addressing a much more diverse and pampered group of citizens with lots of other things to turn to if this palls (no matter how screwed up the economy must be, we are a hell of a lot better off than Germany between the wars), and, most importantly, they haven't actually invaded Poland.
Please note, this is not addressing whether the Tea Party followers, or their leaders, would be Nazis if they could, which is a whole different ball of wax. It's about whether they are or not. There have been lots of excitable pseudo-populist groups in world and U.S. History. Only one became the Nazis. We remember them for a reason.
We will not remember the TPers for that reason.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:16:53pm |
re: #502 WindUpBird
OH HEAVENS!
Where is your beret and long cigarette and tea shades? :D
You're a good egg WUB.
You have NO IDEA how long I've been sitting on that one for...
///I'll stop now.
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grimalkin Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:16:53pm |
Catching up on local news OMG, We were so lucky here. Been on the phone to friends, looks like we'll be having company tonight.
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:16:57pm |
re: #501 WindUpBird
I believe we're all gonna die someday, and we'll all learn just how miniscule this planet is, like we were all killing each other all this time, and it was all just so simple and small and what were we so mad about?
Like getting into a blog war, for example. You leave the blog war for a while, then you can't figure out what the anger was all about
taking a step back and breathing is a wonderful thing... passion in blogging for me tends to be because I have so few outlets to talk about this stuff. But, as you said, life is short so don't sweat the small things...
:)
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:17:12pm |
re: #477 Walter L. Newton
How about a few friendly jabs from an atheist?
In my experience most atheists and religious zealots are the same basic particle with opposite spins, generally insufferable know it alls with certain exceptions.
re: #493 WindUpBird
I used to call myself agnostic, but I think I have ideas a little too kooky to be agnostic
I essentially believe in reincarnation, basically, or some form of machinery by which souls are not "destroyed"
I like David Eagleman's term Possibilian.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:17:50pm |
re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist
Quite. The People of the Tea are annoying as hell, but so far they haven't got a death toll.
What about Shawna Forde?
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:18:02pm |
re: #492 SanFranciscoZionist
I oppose them politically because I think their political ideas suck.
I oppose them socially because they're idiots.
But the Klan actively killed people. Black men sat awake all night, preparing to die defending themselves and their families if they saw them coming down the road. The Klan controlled people's lives. The Klan lynched and burned and terrorized.
The Tea Party is being pissy and racist about the President. It's not the same thing, no matter how annoying they may be.
Ya gotta start somewhere.
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:18:41pm |
re: #505 Decatur Deb
A celebration is planned for Anniston, unfortunately there is a tornado on the ground there now. Both daughters have a tornado within 10 mi on them at the moment. Talledega is under threat again.
Oh shit shit shit. Get them into a bank basement!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:18:50pm |
re: #503 boxhead
When asked to describe my belief, all I can say is that have felt something in my life that I cannot deny. And I cannot tell you how to find that except be open, and feel. Feel your soul, feel life, ... you know..
yep :)
Music is life, art is life, acts of creation are life, that'ds about as far as I've managed to get
I'm not an athiest, because to me, being an athiest would be like being the ant who doesn't believe in Milwaukee, simply because I'll live my life and die as an ant before I get to Milwaukee.
Unless I'm The Archer, the dude in the starship from the latest Sword album, and I'm immortal and I can rocket through time and space and see the edge of the universe and then break the tidal lock on my home planet...
I'm not qualified to be an athiest :D That's my own silly reasoning though
speaking of mighty songs about time and space...
This thing is so good I can't even believe it
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Interesting Times Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:19:12pm |
re: #504 WindUpBird
how much worse is this tornado thing going to get, if it really is AGW+more moisture = more tornadoes :(
I messed up the link in my earlier post. This is it: [Link: climateprogress.org...]
Given the association of extreme weather and climate events with rising global temperature, the expectation of new record high temperatures in 2012 also suggests that the frequency and magnitude of extreme events could reach a high level in 2012. Extreme events include not only high temperatures, but also indirect effects of a warming atmosphere including the impact of higher temperature on extreme rainfall and droughts. The greater water vapor content of a warmer atmosphere allows larger rainfall anomalies and provides the fuel for stronger storms driven by latent heat.
I feel the same way you do now, as if I'm trapped in a slow-motion dystopian sci-fi film.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:19:20pm |
re: #510 goddamnedfrank
In my experience most atheists and religious zealots are the same basic particle with opposite spins, generally insufferable know it alls with certain exceptions.
re: #493 WindUpBird
I like David Eagleman's term Possibilian.
So there are only atheist and religious zealots? That's not my experience. I've encountered zealots of every stripe.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:20:34pm |
re: #504 WindUpBird
It's not that easy.
Tornadoes form only under certain conditions. Even increased heavy rainfall (likely outcome in many areas as the troposphere warms) does not mean there will be more tornadoes.
Tornadoes form frequently in the US due to unique orographic features, and the proximity of the Gulf of Mexico (which supplies warm, energy ladened air) to the latitudes through which during spring and summer there is a very strong jet stream.
It's possible in warmer world that the US might have fewer tornadoes, though more rain and floods.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:20:38pm |
re: #507 McSpiff
You're a good egg WUB.
You have NO IDEA how long I've been sitting on that one for...
///I'll stop now.
heeeheeheehee
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:21:43pm |
re: #511 prononymous
What about Shawna Forde?
Fair call--but I'd attribute that more to a long-time Minutemen/militia-associated criminal becoming interested in the Tea Party for a time, rather than the Tea Party creating her. That may be a fine distinction, but I'd say she's anomalous to the TPers, and follows the militia mold much more closely.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:22:07pm |
re: #516 Gus 802
So there are only atheist and religious zealots? That's not my experience. I've encountered zealots of every stripe.
I didn't even imply that there were only two types of people, simply that strong atheism strikes me as being very similar to religious zealotry in the sense of absolute knowledge of that which is inherently unknowable.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:22:53pm |
re: #507 McSpiff
You're a good egg WUB.
You have NO IDEA how long I've been sitting on that one for...
///I'll stop now.
I WAS a good egg!
then I hatched
(no shit, I was apparently a quiet child almost to the point of creepiness)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:23:17pm |
re: #520 goddamnedfrank
I didn't even imply that there were only two types of people, simply that strong atheism strikes me as being very similar to religious zealotry in the sense of absolute knowledge of that which is inherently unknowable.
that's my thing
I CANNOT KNOW
so asserting that I do seems weird
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:23:36pm |
re: #492 SanFranciscoZionist
I oppose them politically because I think their political ideas suck.
I oppose them socially because they're idiots.
But the Klan actively killed people. Black men sat awake all night, preparing to die defending themselves and their families if they saw them coming down the road. The Klan controlled people's lives. The Klan lynched and burned and terrorized.
The Tea Party is being pissy and racist about the President. It's not the same thing, no matter how annoying they may be.
Respectfully, YET. Unless it's just internet blather, but people feel different today. Today was not good imo.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:23:37pm |
Right now, many in Alabama are in the most dangerous time for a tornado as night has fallen there. And it sounds like another tornado is near the Talladega area.
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S.D. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:23:59pm |
WOW! That was AWESOME!!!!
Don't always agree with Chris Mathews, but he was spot on!!!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:00pm |
re: #520 goddamnedfrank
and I am a fan of not knowing
I actually think human beings would not evolve if we knew, we wouldn't care, art would suck
it's the not knowing, it's the mystery
that's where art comes from
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:07pm |
re: #506 SanFranciscoZionist
There have been lots of excitable pseudo-populist groups in world and U.S. History.
The surge of racist/racialist groups/meetings/blogs etc. during the last three years is very disheartening. I am convinced that while we will see this activity diminish with improving economic conditions, the next deep and long recession/depression will provide the right climate once again for the barkers of hate to sell their wares.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:18pm |
re: #522 WindUpBird
that's my thing
I CANNOT KNOW
so asserting that I do seems weird
A man's got to know his limitations.
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engineer cat Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:26pm |
re: #506 SanFranciscoZionist
I've heard at least some of his argument, and I do agree that there are some common elements present, in terms of the social situation leading up to their development, and certain lines of thought.
However, they are hindered by a far more stable and long-standing governmental body than the Nazis faced, they are far less focused and more multi-faceted, they are addressing a much more diverse and pampered group of citizens with lots of other things to turn to if this palls (no matter how screwed up the economy must be, we are a hell of a lot better off than Germany between the wars), and, most importantly, they haven't actually invaded Poland.
Please note, this is not addressing whether the Tea Party followers, or their leaders, would be Nazis if they could, which is a whole different ball of wax. It's about whether they are or not. There have been lots of excitable pseudo-populist groups in world and U.S. History. Only one became the Nazis. We remember them for a reason.
We will not remember the TPers for that reason.
in a way i'm sympathetic with the teabaggers, and for a very good reason:
the self image of the tea party is that they are trying to make the republican party live up to its pledges to enact all of those 'conservative agenda' items that they have been promising for thirty years and never delivering. yes, it took them nearly 30 years to figure out that the republican party was lying to them, but they finally twigged and are doing something about it. if you read free republic these days, you see that many of them don't even think about themselves as republicans any more
the fact that racists, nutcases, and flat earth society members get swept into the movement i think is not central to the dynamic, just the natural place for people who can't deal with the 21st century to end up
now, i also wish them success, but this time for a sneaky reason:
i think that if they are successful, they'll split the republican party into two mutually recriminating permanent minority parties
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:30pm |
re: #514 WindUpBird
yep :)
Music is life, art is life, acts of creation are life, that'ds about as far as I've managed to get
I'm not an athiest, because to me, being an athiest would be like being the ant who doesn't believe in Milwaukee, simply because I'll live my life and die as an ant before I get to Milwaukee.
Unless I'm The Archer, the dude in the starship from the latest Sword album, and I'm immortal and I can rocket through time and space and see the edge of the universe and then break the tidal lock on my home planet...
I'm not qualified to be an athiest :D That's my own silly reasoning though
speaking of mighty songs about time and space...
[Video]This thing is so good I can't even believe it
Nicely put.... I like to say that one should be able to smell life, smell another's soul. And by smell I mean feel it deep in your bones. Once a person does that, I believe that person cannot but help being a positive force for wanting good for others. This is why I so question all these religious right folks that seem to be ok with tossing people under the bus.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:33pm |
re: #524 commadore183
Right now, many in Alabama are in the most dangerous time for a tornado as night has fallen there. And it sounds like another tornado is near the Talladega area.
those poor people :(
I know I harsh on the south, but seriously, this is fucking horrible, and it's gonna get way worse in our lifetimes
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:49pm |
re: #512 Decatur Deb
Ya gotta start somewhere.
You do. And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about where they might go...for example, when Obama wins his second term, and the hard-core Tealeaves simultaneously lose what little was left of their minds. They could get crazier. They could get more dangerous.
Odds are, from where I stand, they won't. Individuals may defect to the militia groups, or start their own. We may see some acts of terrorism. But I don't see these folks turning bad in such numbers or with such social immunity that something like the Klan would develop.
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:24:57pm |
re: #517 freetoken
It's not that easy.
Tornadoes form only under certain conditions. Even increased heavy rainfall (likely outcome in many areas as the troposphere warms) does not mean there will be more tornadoes.
Tornadoes form frequently in the US due to unique orographic features, and the proximity of the Gulf of Mexico (which supplies warm, energy ladened air) to the latitudes through which during spring and summer there is a very strong jet stream.
It's possible in warmer world that the US might have fewer tornadoes, though more rain and floods.
All I know here in OKC , if it's warm here and you see cool weather coming down from Colorado and the 2 fronts meet over Oklahoma, we get tornados. Work most of the time.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:25:16pm |
re: #528 goddamnedfrank
I remember sneaking downstairs with my friend at his house to watch SUDDEN IMPACT!!!!
we were totally doing that against is mom's wishes!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:25:51pm |
re: #523 Stanley Sea
Respectfully, YET. Unless it's just internet blather, but people feel different today. Today was not good imo.
It wasn't. I'm not saying this is good. But the late sixties weren't good either, and we did come out the other end.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:25:55pm |
re: #532 SanFranciscoZionist
You do. And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about where they might go...for example, when Obama wins his second term, and the hard-core Tealeaves simultaneously lose what little was left of their minds. They could get crazier. They could get more dangerous.
Odds are, from where I stand, they won't. Individuals may defect to the militia groups, or start their own. We may see some acts of terrorism. But I don't see these folks turning bad in such numbers or with such social immunity that something like the Klan would develop.
I predict another Tim Mcveigh, in Obama's second term. This climate is way worse than Clinton
I don't want to say that, but I'm saying that, because I believe it
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:26:40pm |
re: #533 justaminute
All I know here in OKC , if it's warm here and you see cool weather coming down from Colorado and the 2 fronts meet over Oklahoma, we get tornados. Work most of the time.
Heh... that's what I said :-)
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:26:51pm |
CNN has this at the top:
National Weather Service declares a tornado emergency for Cherokee County, Alabama.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:27:01pm |
re: #532 SanFranciscoZionist
You do. And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about where they might go...for example, when Obama wins his second term, and the hard-core Tealeaves simultaneously lose what little was left of their minds. They could get crazier. They could get more dangerous.
Odds are, from where I stand, they won't. Individuals may defect to the militia groups, or start their own. We may see some acts of terrorism. But I don't see these folks turning bad in such numbers or with such social immunity that something like the Klan would develop.
They spread and sanitize the BS with which the militias and Klan types recruit.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:27:04pm |
re: #535 SanFranciscoZionist
It wasn't. I'm not saying this is good. But the late sixties weren't good either, and we did come out the other end.
we'll come out the other end! (and no i'll leave the gastro joke on the table)
This thing we call "America" may be broken up into parts though. No rules say that our country remains whole, no hand of God thinks America is any more important than any other country
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:27:05pm |
re: #536 WindUpBird
I predict another Tim Mcveigh, in Obama's second term. This climate is way worse than Clinton
I don't want to say that, but I'm saying that, because I believe it
don't start killing my buzz before it even starts!
I do pray you are wrong....
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:27:18pm |
re: #520 goddamnedfrank
I didn't even imply that there were only two types of people, simply that strong atheism strikes me as being very similar to religious zealotry in the sense of absolute knowledge of that which is inherently unknowable.
I'm a weak atheist in the sense that I wouldn't say I know for a fact that any god at all can't possibly exist. But I'm a strong atheist in the sense that every religion I have studied I have rejected as false.
In science theories, even the strongest ones, are tentative - barring the discovery of contradictory data.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:27:59pm |
re: #519 SanFranciscoZionist
Fair call--but I'd attribute that more to a long-time Minutemen/militia-associated criminal becoming interested in the Tea Party for a time, rather than the Tea Party creating her. That may be a fine distinction, but I'd say she's anomalous to the TPers, and follows the militia mold much more closely.
I suppose. However, if we interviewed most militia members what parties do you imagine they would associate themselves with, in general?
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:28:12pm |
re: #536 WindUpBird
I predict another Tim Mcveigh, in Obama's second term. This climate is way worse than Clinton
I don't want to say that, but I'm saying that, because I believe it
That makes my heart hurt.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:28:55pm |
re: #536 WindUpBird
I predict another Tim Mcveigh, in Obama's second term. This climate is way worse than Clinton
I don't want to say that, but I'm saying that, because I believe it
Crap. That's the fear, isn't it?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:30:07pm |
re: #540 WindUpBird
we'll come out the other end! (and no i'll leave the gastro joke on the table)
This thing we call "America" may be broken up into parts though. No rules say that our country remains whole, no hand of God thinks America is any more important than any other country
You're right about the hand of God, but WUB, for the love of all that's holy, don't tell me that the damn TEABAGGERS are going to break up the Union.
They're too...tacky...for that to be allowed to happen.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:30:40pm |
re: #535 SanFranciscoZionist
if we've created the perfect storm of propaganda, if people are so split that it's to the point of violence, and we cannot resolve our differences, and there's water riots and water refugees AND there's so many tornadoes that parts of the US become uninhabitable, and then you have great hunks of the country that are so balkanized that people are being killed over politics
what good is it to have a country? Why not break it up?
Just being honest. Why bother? Not that that will definitely happen, but all it will take is $9 gas prices and a big water shortage that bankrupts a state or three. There;'s one Detroit. What if there there 30 Detroits? What if we have to abandon cities that cannot sustain themselves, because efficiency demands we live much closer together for survival? Bye bye America
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:30:53pm |
re: #542 prononymous
I'm a weak atheist in the sense that I wouldn't say I know for a fact that any god at all can't possibly exist. But I'm a strong atheist in the sense that every religion I have studied I have rejected as false.
In science theories, even the strongest ones, are tentative - barring the discovery of contradictory data.
But is Hell exothermic or endothermic?
This message comes from a graduate of the Univerisity of Oklahoma Chemical Engineering Department via an acquaintance of mine who sends out a "Daily Silly" to a large group of people. It cites one of Dr.Schlambaugh's final test questions for his final exam for 1997. [Note: Dr. Schlambaugh is known for asking questions on his finals like:"Why do airplanes fly?"] This was an "actual question" given on a University of Washington chemistry midterm.
Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Support your answer with proof.
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed) or some variant.
One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So, we need to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell and the rate they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for temperature and the pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until All Hell breaks loose.
2. Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Ms. Therese Banyan during my Freshman year, that "It will be a cold night in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into account the fact that I still have not succeeded in that area, then (2) cannot be true, and so Hell is exothermic.This student got the only A.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:30:58pm |
re: #542 prononymous
I'm a weak atheist in the sense that I wouldn't say I know for a fact that any god at all can't possibly exist. But I'm a strong atheist in the sense that every religion I have studied I have rejected as false.
In science theories, even the strongest ones, are tentative - barring the discovery of contradictory data.
That doens't make me an athiest!
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:31:39pm |
Looks like the city of Talladega is going to hit with a tornado in a few minutes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:31:43pm |
re: #543 prononymous
I suppose. However, if we interviewed most militia members what parties do you imagine they would associate themselves with, in general?
I guess you can consider them part of the big right fringe along with the Tea Party, but I don't know to what extent active militia members consider any government official valid enough to vote for.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:32:15pm |
re: #549 boxhead
BADASS!
that kid could do standup for brilliant people
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until All Hell breaks loose.
2. Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
heehee genius
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:32:57pm |
re: #552 SanFranciscoZionist
I guess you can consider them part of the big right fringe along with the Tea Party, but I don't know to what extent active militia members consider any government official valid enough to vote for.
they're outsiders, like me
The difference is, they're bloodthirsty and stupid and play army in the woods, and I just sit around and draw bird people
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:33:16pm |
re: #520 goddamnedfrank
I didn't even imply that there were only two types of people, simply that strong atheism strikes me as being very similar to religious zealotry in the sense of absolute knowledge of that which is inherently unknowable.
OK It was a simplistic read on my part. I find all zealots rather annoying. But as far as being firm on having a stance of "absolute knowledge of that which is inherently unknowable" and I enjoy listening to some other atheists speak about this while not from others. I have a firm belief in the same thing and if my stance wasn't "absolute" then I wouldn't be an atheist but an agnostic. That being said I never try to convert anyone nor spend my every waking hour ridiculing those that don't agree with me. And as far as the Youtube atheist community I can only stand about 15 minutes a week.
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McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:33:18pm |
re: #552 SanFranciscoZionist
I guess you can consider them part of the big right fringe along with the Tea Party, but I don't know to what extent active militia members consider any government official valid enough to vote for.
Sovereign citizen movement, Sheriff movement, etc.
Same as guys like Alex Jones, he was against Bush before he was against Obama. You need at least 2 political axises to plot any of these guys, and some of them are just nuts with some political window dressing to justify their own crazy.
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freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:33:32pm |
re: #548 WindUpBird
We are dependent upon each other to such a degree that we will not split apart.
Yet.
Certainly the day may come, I think it will come, when modernity fails (due to lots and lots of issues) and like at the end of the 13th century BCE the entire world system changes... that day is a ways off yet. No need to rush Armageddon (no matter what Harold Camping wants.)
Anyway, as long as we have families living extendedly all over the nation who speak and text with one another daily - break up ain't going to happen.
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:33:34pm |
re: #553 WindUpBird
BADASS!
that kid could do standup for brilliant people
heehee genius
that is a very old post on the internet... but VERY good..
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:33:47pm |
Debris from a law office in Tuscaloosa was found in St Clair county, about 70 miles away!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:33:48pm |
re: #542 prononymous
I'm a weak atheist in the sense that I wouldn't say I know for a fact that any god at all can't possibly exist. But I'm a strong atheist in the sense that every religion I have studied I have rejected as false.
In science theories, even the strongest ones, are tentative - barring the discovery of contradictory data.
I reject most of them because, except for Reform Judaism, they don't speak to me at all in terms of approach to literature. The idea of their being false or true however is rather above my pay grade.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:34:42pm |
RT @Cliff_Sims: WOW RT @ThomRainer:
Small child ripped from dad's arms by tornado in Tuscaloosa. Found later walking down a street uninjured
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researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:35:11pm |
re: #532 SanFranciscoZionist
You do. And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about where they might go...for example, when Obama wins his second term, and the hard-core Tealeaves simultaneously lose what little was left of their minds. They could get crazier. They could get more dangerous.
Odds are, from where I stand, they won't. Individuals may defect to the militia groups, or start their own. We may see some acts of terrorism. But I don't see these folks turning bad in such numbers or with such social immunity that something like the Klan would develop.
Sanity can be a dangerous thing,
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:35:41pm |
re: #556 McSpiff
Sovereign citizen movement, Sheriff movement, etc.
Same as guys like Alex Jones, he was against Bush before he was against Obama. You need at least 2 political axises to plot any of these guys, and some of them are just nuts with some political window dressing to justify their own crazy.
I would not be surprised if the soverign citizen movement gets a state or two as a lawless zone in 50 years
simply because it might be a matter of getting rid of the wackos to some state with no services being easier
it might just be better to allow a state to pull the plug on all funding and fall to ruin
then when they realize that it's not so much fun living in the World of Deadwood... then they move back and ditch the soverign citizen shit
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:35:55pm |
re: #561 Stanley Sea
RT @Cliff_Sims: WOW RT @ThomRainer:
Small child ripped from dad's arms by tornado in Tuscaloosa. Found later walking down a street uninjured
what the fuck
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:36:53pm |
re: #556 McSpiff
Sovereign citizen movement, Sheriff movement, etc.
Same as guys like Alex Jones, he was against Bush before he was against Obama. You need at least 2 political axises to plot any of these guys, and some of them are just nuts with some political window dressing to justify their own crazy.
Well, yeah. But there are a ton of moving parts to all of this. Your average Tea Party enthusiast is still fairly plugged into the legitimate political process, and wants to get her candidates into Congress so they can kick Obama's ass. She may be getting Alex Jones' madness through Glenn Beck, or general osmosis, but I would say that most of their followers are largely still bought in to American society, albeit a rather screwed-up version of it. They actually do expect their Medicare, and for a cop to come when called.
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:37:12pm |
re: #548 WindUpBird
It seems like we have entered the Looking Glass. Things that seem obvious to me is a mystery or worse to others.... If Country must fail, it will be a sad day. But I will blame it upon the People who were not willing to question what they have been told.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:37:55pm |
re: #550 WindUpBird
That doens't make me an athiest!
Or a strong atheist with respect to those religions. ;)
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:40:01pm |
re: #552 SanFranciscoZionist
I guess you can consider them part of the big right fringe along with the Tea Party, but I don't know to what extent active militia members consider any government official valid enough to vote for.
Fair enough. We don't exactly have good polling data for bigots.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:40:27pm |
re: #565 Charles
I certainly wouldn't be worrying about getting a good capture of a tornado close to me like that, but amazing footage nonetheless.
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Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:42:04pm |
“Even such venerable saints as Rush Limbaugh know the lines they are not to cross. But any of their constituency can hear clear the same vile filth spewing forth in their statements that was once the purview of Robert Shelton and members of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Citizen’s Council.”
Dr. Wallace Charles Smith
Easter Sunday Pastor to President Obama
Apparently, he and I must see the same thing.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:43:46pm |
LawrenceODonnell V. OrlyTaitz Video
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:44:14pm |
re: #560 goddamnedfrank
I reject most of them because, except for Reform Judaism, they don't speak to me at all in terms of approach to literature. The idea of their being false or true however is rather above my pay grade.
Pay grade? It's not something special that only priests and academics can do. Anyone with a brain can. Read the worlds' important religious texts (everyone should, imo), and think about how they compare to what we can observe in reality.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:45:13pm |
re: #557 freetoken
We are dependent upon each other to such a degree that we will not split apart.
Yet.
Certainly the day may come, I think it will come, when modernity fails (due to lots and lots of issues) and like at the end of the 13th century BCE the entire world system changes... that day is a ways off yet. No need to rush Armageddon (no matter what Harold Camping wants.)
Anyway, as long as we have families living extendedly all over the nation who speak and text with one another daily - break up ain't going to happen.
We're dependent on each other, yes!
but what happens when states become uninhabitable, I think that is the trigger that makes the hose of cards collapse
because the US government is not going to have any answer for a water shortage, besides move somewhere else
I don't think it'll be like an"enemy" break up, I think it'll just be that the US becomes compartmentalized to a greater extent than it is now
personally, I feel FAR FAR FAR more kinship to Vancouver BC, than I ever will to the South. Or the east coast, really. I've been to Philly, been to Pittsburgh, been to Florida. Didn't like them AT ALL.
Vancouver BC people are a lot like American northwesterners! They have a huge asian culture, they have a cosmopolitan culture, a great art scene, are not overwhelmed by superstition
And they're not flying confederate flags.
So when I sorta go on my UGH America tarngents, that's my example. I'm more patriotic to the Northwest than i am to America as a whole. I could happily move to vancouver BC and live my whole life there, it's an incredible city. The south? it's another planet. it's more alien to me than Europe.
The confedarate flag is a swastika to me. it's as offensive to me as a nazi flag.
because nazis in america are real, but they're also a joke. A scary joke, but not a real party. Not a real political mainstream here.
Confederate freaks are dead serious. it's a culture of slavery and murder and evil that they celebrate. it's revolting and inhuman.
Whole states whose politics support it? As alien as another planet. I feel bad for good people who live in the south, of course there's awesome stuff in the south. But it feels like a hostile environment to me. A state that would allow a bizarre cultist like Bobby Jindal to work his gibberish, who would elect that guy?
How is that even possible?
So there's my Cascadia rant :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:46:05pm |
re: #567 boxhead
It seems like we have entered the Looking Glass. Things that seem obvious to me is a mystery or worse to others... If Country must fail, it will be a sad day. But I will blame it upon the People who were not willing to question what they have been told.
Countries all gotta fail sometimes
I'm not attached to the idea of a great big America. I'm not a romantic about it, especially now. I'm attached to my culture, my home. here.
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austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:46:28pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:47:51pm |
re: #580 austin_blue
Tuscaloosa. Solid F4.
Shot by a 'Bama student. Auburn students are only stupid enough to go out in an F3.
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:47:55pm |
re: #579 WindUpBird
Countries all gotta fail sometimes
I'm not attached to the idea of a great big America. I'm not a romantic about it, especially now. I'm attached to my culture, my home. here.
yes... but I do love the ideas put forth in our Constitution, of course minus the racial and gender based stuff. I hope the next revision is a progression instead of digressing.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:48:02pm |
re: #578 WindUpBird
Ecotopia!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:49:08pm |
re: #583 jaunte
Ecotopia!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
hah! I was trying to remember the other name people had for Cascadia, yeah! Thanks ^_^
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:49:19pm |
re: #583 jaunte
my favorite part: EMPTY QUARTER
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:49:27pm |
re: #579 WindUpBird
Countries all gotta fail sometimes
I'm not attached to the idea of a great big America. I'm not a romantic about it, especially now. I'm attached to my culture, my home. here.
it's all how you look at it....it may be said that your cozy culture and home is distinctly American and that our 'system' made and sustains them
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:49:37pm |
re: #575 kragar (proud to be kafir)
LawrenceODonnell V. OrlyTaitz Video
[Video]
OK, I'll give Lawrence a pass on this. Not Chuck Todd though, he pandered to the ratings of Trump.
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Interesting Times Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:49:39pm |
re: #579 WindUpBird
Countries all gotta fail sometimes
I'm not attached to the idea of a great big America. I'm not a romantic about it, especially now. I'm attached to my culture, my home. here.
If America falls in the manner you describe, what do you think would replace it? Would the world wind up with a new boss far, far worse than the old one?
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Linden Arden Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:49:46pm |
New right-wing nuttery I just heard on Hannity - President Obama played birth certificate to portray himself as race "victim".
These scumbags won't ever stop.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:50:09pm |
re: #581 Decatur Deb
Shot by a 'Bama student. Auburn students are only stupid enough to go out in an F3.
The heavy breathing tells me whoever was filming was fuckin' scared...or horny.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:50:37pm |
re: #582 boxhead
yes... but I do love the ideas put forth in our Constitution, of course minus the racial and gender based stuff. I hope the next revision is a progression instead of digressing.
I like the constitution too! But parts of our country have been ignoring it and shitting on it forever
Nothing says Cascadia can't have a constitution even more progressive than what we got :D We're full of nerdy wonks, we could write a HELL of a constitution
We're a young country, guys. This isn't forever
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:50:58pm |
re: #588 publicityStunted
If America falls in the manner you describe, what do you think would replace it? Would the world wind up with a new boss far, far worse than the old one?
I think this whole 'boss of the world' thing has run its course anyways. It's kind of a joke as it is.
I vote for Germany tho ;)
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b_sharp Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:51:04pm |
re: #590 darthstar
The heavy breathing tells me whoever was filming was fuckin' scared...or horny.
Probably both.
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:51:16pm |
re: #588 publicityStunted
If America falls in the manner you describe, what do you think would replace it? Would the world wind up with a new boss far, far worse than the old one?
with the way much of American populace scurries about like sheep, worse....
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:51:43pm |
re: #575 kragar (proud to be kafir)
Wonder is we can use her skull as an FIA-approved crash helmet, as she just demonstrated that nothing gets through it.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:51:43pm |
re: #575 kragar (proud to be kafir)
LawrenceODonnell V. OrlyTaitz Video
[Video]
She's just another fuckin' Donald Trump. She loves the attention...Like Pamela Geller crawling around naked with a bunch of boars in a sty.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:03pm |
re: #591 WindUpBird
I like the constitution too! But parts of our country have been ignoring it and shitting on it forever
Nothing says Cascadia can't have a constitution even more progressive than what we got :D We're full of nerdy wonks, we could write a HELL of a constitution
We're a young country, guys. This isn't forever
Politically speaking, we're rather an old country.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:20pm |
re: #596 darthstar
She's just another fuckin' Donald Trump. She loves the attention...Like Pamela Geller crawling around naked with a bunch of boars in a sty.
good one
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b_sharp Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:21pm |
re: #596 darthstar
She's just another fuckin' Donald Trump. She loves the attention...Like Pamela Geller crawling around naked with a bunch of boars in a sty.
Poor pigs.
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darthstar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:34pm |
re: #595 commadore183
Wonder is we can use her skull as an FIA-approved crash helmet, as she just demonstrated that nothing gets through it.
She was on TV! She was on TV! She was on TV! She was on TV! She was on TV! She was on TV! She was on TV! (and that's all that matters to her, obviously)
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boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:44pm |
re: #591 WindUpBird
I like the constitution too! But parts of our country have been ignoring it and shitting on it forever
Nothing says Cascadia can't have a constitution even more progressive than what we got :D We're full of nerdy wonks, we could write a HELL of a constitution
We're a young country, guys. This isn't forever
YES... another positive step is what I want.... I hope we have enough people to fill a football stadium who will join us... :p
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justaminute Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:48pm |
re: #577 Gus 802
Gus, I know it's here in Oklahoma, barely under the surface. We had the Tulsa race riots. Not one county went for Obama. Heck, I'm married to an Iranian. Unfortunately, I have a living parent here and a business and a home. I just hope that we suffered so much with the Murrah bombing that everyone knows better than to go there again. Other wise what can you do?
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:52:58pm |
re: #596 darthstar
except, you can't be a trump without a truly awe-inspiring wig. Did I miss something?
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:53:13pm |
re: #596 darthstar
She's just another fuckin' Donald Trump. She loves the attention...Like Pamela Geller crawling around naked with a bunch of boars in a sty.
OK, an image I could have done without.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:53:16pm |
re: #576 prononymous
Pay grade? It's not something special that only priests and academics can do. Anyone with a brain can. Read the worlds' important religious texts (everyone should, imo), and think about how they compare to what we can observe in reality.
This is exactly what I mean. The "anyone with a brain" crap, the insistence that one's own observed reality is the end all, be all, the complete glossing over of things like metaphor and the value of religious texts as literature. I'm not about making true/false value judgements just to affirm my own sense of ego-self and proper cognition, that's was zealots do. For me concepts such as creation and the afterlife are idea spaces inherently worthy of exploration, regardless of their perceived veracity.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:54:05pm |
re: #603 windsagio
except, you can't be a trump without a truly awe-inspiring wig. Did I miss something?
It's a comb over animal thingy. Not a wig.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:54:32pm |
re: #586 albusteve
it's all how you look at it...it may be said that your cozy culture and home is distinctly American and that our 'system' made and sustains them
maybe!
maybe it used to sustain us, maybe now we don't need it anymore.
But I'm really talking about the inevitable instability forcing the hand, it would have to be a massive calamity. Like my water shortage argument.
And heh cozy. I sure didn't feel cozy when I was cleaning up shit for 8 bucks an hour, living with four other people in a dingy apartment with a sagging ceiling and mold damage, underneat the Sea-Tac flight path in 1997. No car. had to ride on the bus for an hour and a half to get to work, because of seattle's shitty transfer system.
rent was a little under $500 a month for a two bedroom :) People roasted goats in oil drums in the parking lot, my mother in law got into a shoving match with my apartment manager. every apartment but ours around us was burgled. Ours wasn't because we never left! Someone was always home, the joy of having gamer couchsurfers who deal weed
I still loved it, we drilled through the wall to our neighbors (who were friends) to play Half Life and Shogo, bong hits for everyone
Actually, that was a lie. It was cozy!
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:54:53pm |
Tuscaloosa mayor says that there are at least 15 people confirmed killed by the tornado. Thoughts to those affected there and hope they find comfort in the coming days.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:54:58pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:55:58pm |
I am so sick of the stupid birthers/Tea Party and their bullshit.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:56:05pm |
re: #607 WindUpBird
I was also strangled and hit with a toaster for that 8 bucks an hour! Thankfully the toaster hit my shoulder. We later stole toe toaster as a trophy, hahahaha
beats my coworker who got headbutted and knocked a tooth out, that day sucked :(
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:56:37pm |
re: #606 Stanley Sea
It's a comb over animal thingy. Not a wig.
It's aware, people. It can feel pain. It has emotions. And it knows more about foreign policy than Donald Trump.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:56:39pm |
re: #610 HappyWarrior
I am so sick of the stupid birthers/Tea Party and their bullshit.
I honestly am not anymore
America needs to face its cancer with total lucidity, america needs to stop pretending we're screwed up
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:57:00pm |
re: #608 commadore183
Tuscaloosa mayor says that there are at least 15 people confirmed killed by the tornado. Thoughts to those affected there and hope they find comfort in the coming days.
Damn. This kind of thing is never easy.
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Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:57:01pm |
Ok. So I just got around to watching Tweety rip these two nutjobs a new one. That was awesome. Squirm little racist assholes, squirm.
At this point, with the actual "long-form" certificate out, the only people whining and crying about Photoshop layers and who are still doubting anything are racists, full stop. It's obvious they just can't accept a black man as POTUS. That's what this has been all along, and now we're seeing it in the way these birther assholes are trying to change the subject.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:57:28pm |
re: #565 Charles
Meanwhile in Alabama:
[Video]
Incredible & awful, all at once.
I would love to do the tornado-hunting thing once with an experienced tornado hunter.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:57:33pm |
re: #596 darthstar
She's just another fuckin' Donald Trump. She loves the attention...Like Pamela Geller crawling around naked with a bunch of boars in a sty.
sexy
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Peter Kaufman Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:57:36pm |
So, presumably, Mr. Trump will be demanding a refund from the private-investigators who he hired, and told him they couldn't believe what they were finding?
Peter
inklake
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:58:00pm |
re: #616 reine.de.tout
Incredible & awful, all at once.
I would love to do the tornado-hunting thing once with an experienced tornado hunter.
WOW
Boy you are a different person than me! I don't even swim!
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:59:05pm |
feeling pretty bad for my Alabama brethren...forge head amigos
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:59:17pm |
re: #616 reine.de.tout
Incredible & awful, all at once.
I would love to do the tornado-hunting thing once with an experienced tornado hunter.
I've toyed with the idea of being a storm chaser. It's both thrilling and helpful in studying tornadoes and warning those in their paths.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:59:17pm |
re: #616 reine.de.tout
Would love to as well. Probably wouldn't be hard, being at Oklahoma and all.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 6:59:27pm |
re: #613 WindUpBird
America needs to face its cancer with total lucidity, america needs to stop pretending we're screwed up
As a culture we're pretty damn good at looking the other way, its crazy-hard to get people look it in the eye.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:00:22pm |
how can someone not swim?...seems impossible
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:01:40pm |
re: #623 ProLifeLiberal
Would love to as well. Probably wouldn't be hard, being at Oklahoma and all.
You're right there! Prime country for it.
There was a show for awhile featuring a couple of groups of storm chasers. One of them fabricated this huge armored-type vehicle that they rode around in while chasing storms (hoping, I guess, it would keep them a bit safe). I don't know what happened to that show - or the vehicle.
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:01:50pm |
re: #625 albusteve
fear of water usually (or deep water). At least one of my good friends totally can't swim.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:01:57pm |
re: #620 WindUpBird
WOW
Boy you are a different person than me! I don't even swim!
"What kind of an asshole grows up in Seattle and doesn't even know how to swim?"
-Ally Sheedy, Wargames
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:02:41pm |
re: #627 windsagio
fear of water usually (or deep water). At least one of my good friends totally can't swim.
yes, your friend can swim, don't be silly
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:03:12pm |
re: #625 albusteve
how can someone not swim?...seems impossible
A) almost drown when you are 6, get dragged out of the water by the camp counselor, have an out of body experience, then and have panic attacks whenever you are close to deep water
B) no body fat
C) no coordination
Trust me, it's possible. i took lessons for years :(
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:03:28pm |
re: #625 albusteve
how can someone not swim?...seems impossible
I can swim, but I don't like rough water at all, I'm not a strong swimmer at all, and I tend to panic. Plus if I'm in the ocean, if there is ONE stinging jellyfish within a 5 mile radius, it will find me. I go to the beach but will only swim in the pool.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:03:42pm |
re: #605 goddamnedfrank
This is exactly what I mean. The "anyone with a brain" crap, the insistence that one's own observed reality is the end all, be all, the complete glossing over of things like metaphor and the value of religious texts as literature. I'm not about making true/false value judgements just to affirm my own sense of ego-self and proper cognition, that's was zealots do. For me concepts such as creation and the afterlife are idea spaces inherently worthy of exploration, regardless of their perceived veracity.
Um, I do value those things regardless of their perceived veracity. Why do you think I studied religion in the first place?
I can't believe in their truth anymore but I still value them for their literary value and as the foundation for so much art/music/literature/entertainment/etc. I'm not someone who thinks that the world would be a better place without religion, just a different place.
Do you really think I am zealous on the issue of religion simply because I don't believe in any specific gods?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:03:49pm |
re: #629 goddamnedfrank
"What kind of an asshole grows up in Seattle and doesn't even know how to swim?"
-Ally Sheedy, Wargames
ahahahahahahahahahahaha I WAS THAT GUY!
well done sir, one of my favorite films
See my 632
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:04:36pm |
re: #632 WindUpBird
A) almost drown when you are 6, get dragged out of the water by the camp counselor, have an out of body experience, then and have panic attacks whenever you are close to deep water
B) no body fat
C) no coordination
Trust me, it's possible. i took lessons for years :(
Fair enough, the quote was obligatory though.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:05:17pm |
re: #632 WindUpBird
A) almost drown when you are 6, get dragged out of the water by the camp counselor, have an out of body experience, then and have panic attacks whenever you are close to deep water
B) no body fat
C) no coordination
Trust me, it's possible. i took lessons for years :(
well, there is always a need for anchors
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:05:27pm |
re: #636 goddamnedfrank
Fair enough, the quote was obligatory though.
Dude, that was genius, I had totally forgotten that quote, it's been a while since I've done my obligatory Sneakers+Wargames marathon
(you have seen Sneakers, right?)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:07:45pm |
re: #637 albusteve
well, there is always a need for anchors
hahaha I like DRY LAND
I don't even like boats, the only boats I like are puget sound ferries, that take me to Windsagio's island cabin *_* Then I can admire the san juans with a beer in a lawn chair
(for the record, I can soooooorta swim and keep myself afloat, but it is difficult, and not fun in the slightest. It feels like being in quicksand to me, and once it's a struggle, then it gets close to a panic, then I get out. Also, my scoleosis makes my stroke weird, or at least that's what my back doctor told me as a kid)
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:07:51pm |
re: #403 Charles
It's racism. Flat out racism. I no longer have any doubt.
Nor do I. I thank the president for this document release. He did for all the right reasons: To help squash a stupid and toxic meme that is distracting the country from serious business. Thank you, Mr. President, for doing something you did not need to do to help the nation.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:08:16pm |
re: #403 Charles
It's racism. Flat out racism. I no longer have any doubt.
yep
The country has a cancer
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:08:48pm |
re: #640 Dark_Falcon
Nor do I. I thank the president for this document release. He did for all the right reasons: To help squash a stupid and toxic meme that is distracting the country from serious business. Thank you, Mr. President, for doing something you did not need to do to help the nation.
I'm a little more of a cynic about obama doing that, he timed that for political reasons :-)
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:09:57pm |
re: #626 reine.de.tout
You're right there! Prime country for it.
There was a show for awhile featuring a couple of groups of storm chasers. One of them fabricated this huge armored-type vehicle that they rode around in while chasing storms (hoping, I guess, it would keep them a bit safe). I don't know what happened to that show - or the vehicle.
The show is called "Storm Chasers" and it's on the Discovery Channel. I think another season of it is coming up in a few weeks or so.
And that vehicle is called a Tornado Intercept Vehicle (TIV). There's actually, I think, three built by 2 different people: two by a person filming an IMAX movie, and one (called the "Dominator") by a group of meteorologists. Here's a video of one of the TIVs by IMAX film producer Sean Casey:
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:10:03pm |
re: #643 WindUpBird
I'm a little more of a cynic about obama doing that, he brilliantly timed that for political reasons :-)
Fix't
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:10:11pm |
re: #639 WindUpBird
hahaha I like DRY LAND
I don't even like boats, the only boats I like are puget sound ferries, that take me to Windsagio's island cabin *_* Then I can admire the san juans with a beer in a lawn chair
(for the record, I can sooorta swim and keep myself afloat, but it is difficult, and not fun in the slightest. It feels like being in quicksand to me, and once it's a struggle, then it gets close to a panic, then I get out. Also, my scoleosis makes my stroke weird, or at least that's what my back doctor told me as a kid)
I'm just spoofing at you expense...I understand...I grew up around water, owned various boats and the like...swimming just comes natural
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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:10:15pm |
What angers me is people like Pam and others are saying why didn't he release it sooner? Why should he have? To satisfy knuckledragging idiots like you? There was no reason why Obama shouldn't have gotten the same benefit of the doubt that other candidates get but because of right wing xenophobic bullshit, this became an issue. These people are pathetic and yes racist no matter their attempts to deny it. I am further convinced that after seeing some comments on blogs and facebook that there literally is nothing that President Obama could do that would make these people happy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:10:23pm |
re: #633 reine.de.tout
I can swim, but I don't like rough water at all, I'm not a strong swimmer at all, and I tend to panic. Plus if I'm in the ocean, if there is ONE stinging jellyfish within a 5 mile radius, it will find me. I go to the beach but will only swim in the pool.
JELLYFISH :( :( :( :(
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:10:36pm |
re: #638 WindUpBird
Dude, that was genius, I had totally forgotten that quote, it's been a while since I've done my obligatory Sneakers+Wargames marathon
(you have seen Sneakers, right?)
The young lady with the... Uzi. Is she single?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:10:57pm |
re: #641 WindUpBird
yep
The country has a cancer
We have gone so far but yet have so far to go at the same time.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:11:00pm |
re: #646 albusteve
I'm just spoofing at you expense...I understand...I grew up around water, owned various boats and the like...swimming just comes natural
It came natural to everyone I knew! My father LOVES boats, he never had a sailboat of his own, but my uncle did, they'd go out constantly
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:11:04pm |
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:11:20pm |
re: #638 WindUpBird
Dude, that was genius, I had totally forgotten that quote, it's been a while since I've done my obligatory Sneakers+Wargames marathon
(you have seen Sneakers, right?)
That movie has such a great cast.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:11:28pm |
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Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:12:07pm |
re: #647 HappyWarrior
I am further convinced that after seeing some comments on blogs and facebook that there literally is nothing that President Obama could do that would make these people happy.
Sure there is -- he could resign and immediately transport himself to Gitmo, since he's obviously a Seekrit Mooslim and a terrorist. ///
Of course, that would leave us with President Biden, but these idjits don't think that far ahead. It's just about getting the black guy out of the White House.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:12:49pm |
re: #653 goddamnedfrank
That movie has such a great cast.
david Strathairn! dan Ackroyd! Robert Redford! Ben Kingsley! James Earl Jones at the end!
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Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:12:55pm |
Most of the storms are now in GA. Birmingham TV reports the collapse of a 3-story motel. Two last active systems are still working through AL.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:13:13pm |
re: #654 albusteve
deep breath
they're fun to draw though *_*
all iridescent wavey alien monsters bloop bloop
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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:13:35pm |
re: #655 Lidane
Sure there is -- he could resign and immediately transport himself to Gitmo, since he's obviously a Seekrit Mooslim and a terrorist. ///
Of course, that would leave us with President Biden, but these idjits don't think that far ahead. It's just about getting the black guy out of the White House.
Nah, then they'd bitch about him quitting while cheering on America's favorite half term governor. And she'd be leading the attack unaware of the irony.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:13:36pm |
re: #626 reine.de.tout
And yet, since the land run in the 1880's exactly 1 tornado has hit Norman. An EF3 last year. Norman is probably the luckiest city in the South Central region.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:13:38pm |
re: #643 WindUpBird
I'm a little more of a cynic about obama doing that, he timed that for political reasons :-)
I'm sure he did, but what of it? John Boener and Paul Ryan ought to privately call Obama and thank him for helping to slap down this idiotic 'birther' meme. Hopefully, this will finally get some of the conservative media to drop the meme and will allow the GOP to turn back towards the actual budget.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:14:02pm |
re: #656 WindUpBird
david Strathairn! dan Ackroyd! Robert Redford! Ben Kingsley! James Earl Jones at the end!
plus River Phoenix and Sidney Poitier ... it's a cornucopia of talent.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:14:09pm |
re: #651 WindUpBird
It came natural to everyone I knew! My father LOVES boats, he never had a sailboat of his own, but my uncle did, they'd go out constantly
I had a 29' Hunter...it drove me nuts, but I loved it
fun to sail tho after all the bullshit...and I could motor about to and fro...boats are way cool but a pain in the butt
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:14:13pm |
re: #657 Decatur Deb
This is going to be a sad day/week for Alabama and a few other states.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:14:20pm |
re: #661 Dark_Falcon
I'm sure he did, but what of it? John Boener and Paul Ryan ought to privately call Obama and thank him for helping to slap down this idiotic 'birther' meme. Hopefully, this will finally get some of the conservative media to drop the meme and will allow the GOP to turn back towards the actual budget.
I'm not sure what'll happen next, honestly, I don't think it'll go away tho
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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:14:43pm |
I think if I ever have kids. The first things I plan to teach them to do are swim and read. Can't imagine summer vacation without the annual trip to the beach. My grandmother since my grandfather died has been living with my parents and thus going on vacation with us. She has no desire to see the ocean. I don't get that at all really. The ocean is so beautiful especially at night.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:14:45pm |
re: #662 goddamnedfrank
plus River Phoenix and Sidney Poitier ... it's a cornucopia of talent.
DUH SIDNEY POTIER! I'm a moron, he's my favorite character when he does the beat down at the end outside the van
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:15:12pm |
re: #663 albusteve
I'm gonna try to force him to take a ride in our boat when we go up this summer. Might be a hard sell tho >
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:15:19pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:15:37pm |
re: #666 HappyWarrior
I like the beach! Went to Ocean Shores constantly
I just won't go in the water
Swimming is a thing I learned for survival. Not for fun. I also don't tightrope walk, or do handstands for fun. My frame ain't built for it ^_^
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:15:52pm |
re: #668 windsagio
I'm gonna try to force him to take a ride in our boat when we go up this summer. Might be a hard sell tho >
mmmmmmmm >:-(
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:16:12pm |
re: #668 windsagio
I'll just wera a lifejacket, I suppose that'll work
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:16:22pm |
re: #671 WindUpBird
obviously won't force the issue, naturally, I know how it is >>
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Digital Display Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:16:36pm |
re: #660 ProLifeLiberal
And yet, since the land run in the 1880's exactly 1 tornado has hit Norman. An EF3 last year. Norman is probably the luckiest city in the South Central region.
Yup..Ran down highway 9 I hear...
Hope you are doing well.. Are you going to the music festival this weekend over at College corner?
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:16:47pm |
and it wouldn't be out/back either, just a pleasure jaunt :D
lol sideconversation
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:16:49pm |
re: #673 windsagio
obviously won't force the issue, naturally, I know how it is >>
I'll do it if you sing a heavy song at karaoke :D
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windsagio Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:17:14pm |
re: #676 WindUpBird
haha, do they have Suffragette city? I know that one >>
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HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:17:20pm |
re: #670 WindUpBird
I like the beach! Went to Ocean Shores constantly
I just won't go in the water
Swimming is a thing I learned for survival. Not for fun. I also don't tightrope walk, or do handstands for fun. My frame ain't built for it ^_^
At least you appreciate that. My grandmother cannot. But she's always been quirky in that way. Only person I know who doesn't like music. I am biased as hell when it comes to music having a musical fanatic for a father but still.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:17:45pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:17:53pm |
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:18:03pm |
Fine, ignore the question. I should go do something productive anyway.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:18:19pm |
re: #674 HoosierHoops
Doing as well as possible, considering I have 18 hrs. of classes. Not sure on the Music Festival. 2-3 papers due in quick succession.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:18:31pm |
re: #665 WindUpBird
I'm not sure what'll happen next, honestly, I don't think it'll go away tho
I don't either, but I think its power will be reduced. I don't think Fox News will play to it anymore after this week, and I think it will fade from some conservative websites. Some will remain defiantly 'unreconstructed', of course, but to those RINOs I say:
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:18:37pm |
re: #678 HappyWarrior
At least you appreciate that. My grandmother cannot. But she's always been quirky in that way. Only person I know who doesn't like music. I am biased as hell when it comes to music having a musical fanatic for a father but still.
hahaha same here, I just keep buying instruments
Music is an interesting thing, how simple it can be and still work. One chord and a guy talking. and it works!
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:19:09pm |
re: #672 WindUpBird
I'll just wera a lifejacket, I suppose that'll work
absolutely...I get too distracted sailing, not to wear one...on Lake Michigan, on my boat you wear a vest...and if you don't swim you tell me
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:19:34pm |
Reminder!!! Human Centipede with iphone tonight on South Park!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:19:38pm |
re: #683 Dark_Falcon
I am curious how Fox handles it, from a purely insider news junkie perspective
They';re just looking for viewership and ad revenue, so if they're driving people away, they'll stop
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:19:55pm |
Finally, my theory proved true!
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General Nimrod Bodfish Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:20:07pm |
re: #651 WindUpBird
My only recent boating experience was about a year or two ago when I was at a lake in Ohio and my dad, my brother, and my dad's cousin went out on a 20 foot (about 60 meters for those who use metric) pontoon boat. We went off to a little spot, dropped anchor and was going to bbq, until a friend of the cousin called and said that a tornado was spotted several miles from where we were and was hearing our way. Needless to say, we booked it as fast as we could to get docked and out of the water before the storm struck.
With lightning flashing behind up (maybe two or three miles behind us), we managed to dock, get the boat covered to keep shit from being blown off, and unpacked everything from it to a truck. Right when we started to pull out of the marina, the storm struck with full force. Fortunately, no tornado, but I do remember a house boat was disregarding no wake signs to get to dock.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:20:10pm |
re: #679 WindUpBird
and everyone remembers Hackers with Angelina Jolie instead :(
Because good as Sneakers is, it was made by stars on the older side whose careers were in their latter days. Jolie was the young talent and Hollywood typically promotes that harder.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:20:21pm |
re: #685 albusteve
absolutely...I get too distracted sailing, not to wear one...on Lake Michigan, on my boat you wear a vest...and if you don't swim you tell me
awesome
it's like, i go out on boats so rarely, i have to re-rememeber there IS such a thing as life jackets *_*
OH YEAH DUH
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:20:42pm |
re: #684 WindUpBird
hahaha same here, I just keep buying instruments
Music is an interesting thing, how simple it can be and still work. One chord and a guy talking. and it works!
where it all began...
Image: File:DiddleyBow.jpg
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:20:53pm |
re: #690 Dark_Falcon
Because good as Sneakers is, it was made by stars on the older side whose careers were in their latter days. Jolie was the young talent and Hollywood typically promotes that harder.
oh I know, but it's just a hideous film, hahaha
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:21:38pm |
re: #692 albusteve
AWESOME
I gotta find a picture of the weird custom resonance basses that this old engineer friend of mine builds
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:21:48pm |
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Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:22:14pm |
re: #693 WindUpBird
oh I know, but it's just a hideous film, hahaha
Volume off and finger on fast forward, whats the problem?
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Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:22:32pm |
re: #661 Dark_Falcon
John Boener and Paul Ryan ought to privately call Obama and thank him for helping to slap down this idiotic 'birther' meme.
At this point, I think they'd rather throw Molotov cocktails through the Oval Office windows. This didn't slap down anything. It just inflamed the birthers even more, and just completely undid all the efforts that the GOP leadership had been making to kill the issue by trying to marginalize Trump and all the other loonies.
Right now, Trump's out there taking credit for Obama releasing the long-form and people are falling all over themselves to whine that it's a fake because of a bunch of morans who don't know how Photoshop works. It also raises Trump's profile with the lunatic base and further makes the rest of the GOP field irrelevant. This was gasoline on a fire, and brilliantly thrown by Obama. He's got the GOP leadership pissed off now, because now the birthers are going even more insane than they had been.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:23:09pm |
re: #671 WindUpBird
mmm >:-(
I'm guessing that SCUBA really isn't your scene then. I love it, but there's a fair amount of training and prep work involved because things can go really wrong in a hurry.
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:23:10pm |
re: #694 WindUpBird
AWESOME
I gotta find a picture of the weird custom resonance basses that this old engineer friend of mine builds
go forth, and become famous
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:23:59pm |
re: #687 WindUpBird
I am curious how Fox handles it, from a purely insider news junkie perspective
They're just looking for viewership and ad revenue, so if they're driving people away, they'll stop
I think that what the long form disclosure will do is diminish the plausibility of birther much so much, that any organ that clings to it will suffer a credibility hit greater than Fox will be willing to suffer. Suffering that hit would lose them enough viewer that they will unspokenly drop the meme. What Fox says about it will be graceless, but I think Ailes knows the game has reached its end for Fox and will act accordingly.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:24:19pm |
re: #657 Decatur Deb
Most of the storms are now in GA. Birmingham TV reports the collapse of a 3-story motel. Two last active systems are still working through AL.
What an awful day.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:24:41pm |
re: #697 Lidane
At this point, I think they'd rather throw Molotov cocktails through the Oval Office windows. This didn't slap down anything. It just inflamed the birthers even more, and just completely undid all the efforts that the GOP leadership had been making to kill the issue by trying to marginalize Trump and all the other loonies.
Right now, Trump's out there taking credit for Obama releasing the long-form and people are falling all over themselves to whine that it's a fake because of a bunch of morans who don't know how Photoshop works. It also raises Trump's profile with the lunatic base and further makes the rest of the GOP field irrelevant. This was gasoline on a fire, and brilliantly thrown by Obama. He's got the GOP leadership pissed off now, because now the birthers are going even more insane than they had been.
And the anti birther contingent is very upset. Not going to take it anymore.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:25:27pm |
re: #698 goddamnedfrank
I'm guessing that SCUBA really isn't your scene then. I love it, but there's a fair amount of training and prep work involved because things can go really wrong in a hurry.
haha oh nooooo
I have a pretty rich life, and that rich life includes me plugging weird things into weird things and making noise and art and drawings with those things ^_^;
The only risky thing I do these days is drive too fast sometimes. I used to ski! That was risky! I was not a great skiier. :P
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albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:25:42pm |
re: #698 goddamnedfrank
I'm guessing that SCUBA really isn't your scene then. I love it, but there's a fair amount of training and prep work involved because things can go really wrong in a hurry.
a dream of mine for decades...never got there tho
I've snorkled quite a bit, but scuba always intrigued me...I like the danger and safety aspect
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Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:26:13pm |
re: #702 Stanley Sea
And the anti birther contingent is very upset. Not going to take it anymore.
Yep. It divides the GOP along birther lines, with the biggest potential candidate right now being a full birther loon.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:26:42pm |
re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, I'm reasonably sure that in no dictionary will 'conservative' be defined as 'person who advocates political assassinations'. And yet, folks do persist in claiming the title...
Yeah, there's little to be done about that. Reactionaries and zealots have pretty much ruined the brand.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:26:56pm |
| 708 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:27:01pm |
re: #699 albusteve
go forth, and become famous
I wish I knew how to play bass better! They're cool
he also goes out to farms and junkyards looking for old organs to salvage the tubes from, so he can make guitar amps
just this great Zappa-loving bizarro mad scientist, he does a guitar-amp-building craft night once a month, all these kids in Eugene and Corvallis show up in his garage and make amplifiers
| 709 |
HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:27:38pm |
re: #702 Stanley Sea
And the anti birther contingent is very upset. Not going to take it anymore.
Never did and will, gonna break it and shake it, let's forget it better still.
| 710 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:27:45pm |
re: #704 albusteve
I like watching the shots that scuba photographers and filmmakers get *_*
| 711 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:27:51pm |
re: #648 WindUpBird
JELLYFISH :( :( :( :(
WUB - here's how desperate jellyfish are to attack me.
The Roi and I went on a snorkeling trip once, little calm bay, St. John, USVI.
So, I asked the boat operator if there were any jellyfish in the water. Oh, NO, he says. No jellyfish here.
So I get into the water. And suddenly feel what feels like hundreds of stings on my legs, arms. So I get out of the water, and from the welts, it was obvious I had been stung. But they weren't real bad, just minor.
Oh, says the boat operator. I know what happened. There was a storm last night and it must have broken up the jellyfish and some of the tentacles are floating around and ran into you.
Dead jellyfish parts attacked me that day. No one else. Just me.
I hardly ever get into the water anymore at the beach.
| 712 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:28:07pm |
re: #697 Lidane
I don't see it that way. I think its finally going to push enough people to drop the birther meme as to only leave a clearly racist core of them and finally allow them to be shamed and then punted. But I'm optimistic where the GOP is concerned.
| 713 |
albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:29:04pm |
re: #710 WindUpBird
I like watching the shots that scuba photographers and filmmakers get *_*
SEA HUNT!
| 716 |
HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:30:05pm |
Honestly, I hope this resolves birtherism but I just don't see it. You've got a ton of elected officials who believed in this crap. It wasn't just nuts in the crowd but candidates for office plus all the crazy birther bills in state legislatures too..
| 717 |
celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:30:20pm |
re: #355 Charles
Actually, to be precise, Geller picked a comment from Free Republic that contained the bogus Photoshop import. She probably doesn't have a clue how to open a PDF in Photoshop.
I learned about raster files when I took a class in ARC GIS last year. That was an ironclad bitch. It was cool learning how to make layers for maps, though. I made a day by day interactive map of Guilford County in 1781 with movements of British and American forces prior to and after the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
| 718 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:30:35pm |
Isn't Trump supposed to release his tax forms now?
| 719 |
albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:31:16pm |
re: #718 EmmmieG
Isn't Trump supposed to release his tax forms now?
not til he cuts a deal with Steven Tyler
| 720 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:31:23pm |
re: #714 Gus 802
This just in!
Trump Unable To Produce Certificate Proving He's Not A Festering Pile Of Shit
Very good and very true. Sadly, as is often the case these days, The Onion's intended parody instead hits the mark exactly.
| 721 |
Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:31:39pm |
re: #712 Dark_Falcon
I don't see it that way. I think its finally going to push enough people to drop the birther meme as to only leave a clearly racist core of them and finally allow them to be shamed and then punted. But I'm optimistic where the GOP is concerned.
Given the polling numbers of Republicans who think he's not an American, you're being FAR too optimistic.
Some might be swayed by the "long-form" being released, but others will react the way the wingnuts have so far-- calling it a fake and still having doubts, or they'll try to be like the state Senator in the video at the top of this thread, trying to have it both ways. "Why did he wait so long?" will be the new rallying cry, and the new basis for Obama having something to hide.
This isn't going to go away. It's going to be part of the 2012 GOP, because that's where the lunatic base is.
| 722 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:31:57pm |
re: #720 Dark_Falcon
Very good and very true. Sadly, as is often the case these days, The Onion's intended parody instead hits the mark exactly.
Hi DF. :)
| 723 |
Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:32:00pm |
| 724 |
abolitionist Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:32:13pm |
UPDATE 3-Storms knock out TVA nuclear units, power lines
All three units at TVA's 3,274-megawatt Browns Ferry nuclear plant in Alabama tripped about 5:30 EDT (2230 GMT) after losing outside power to the plant, a spokesman for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said.
A TVA spokeswoman said the station's backup power systems, including diesel generators, started and operated as designed. External power was restored quickly to the plant but diesel generators remained running Wednesday evening, she said.
The Browns Ferry units are among 23 U.S. reactors that are similar in design to the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in Japan where backup generators were swept away in the tsunami that followed the massive earthquake on March 11.
Loss of 11 HV power lines is especially serious in this context. Hope that part about external power was restored was accurate.
| 725 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:33:14pm |
Yo. Decatur Deb. Check your ding on #711. Methinks you hit the wrong button.
| 726 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:34:06pm |
re: #725 Gus 802
Yo. Decatur Deb. Check your ding on #711. Methinks you hit the wrong button.
No, he's really part of the great jellyfish conspiracy, and doesn't like it exposed.
| 727 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:34:28pm |
| 728 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:34:45pm |
re: #710 WindUpBird
I like watching the shots that scuba photographers and filmmakers get *_*
That's my thing, I'm trying to get back into it more. Underwater camera housings and strobes are hellaciously expensive though. The sucky part is trying to haul my fat ass back out of the water, that rapid transition between feeling totally weightless and then like a beached whale.
| 729 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:35:02pm |
re: #726 EmmmieG
No, he's really part of the great jellyfish conspiracy, and doesn't like it exposed.
Hmm. I never thought about that. The Jellyfish people. They're related to The Blob!
| 730 |
celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:35:02pm |
re: #720 Dark_Falcon
Very good and very true. Sadly, as is often the case these days, The Onion's intended parody instead hits the mark exactly.
When I think of Trump, I also think of that massive mountain of bat guano you see in the cave episode of Planet Earth. It is huge, and covered with insects and other vermin. Utterly nasty.
| 731 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:35:05pm |
re: #725 Gus 802
Thanks--fixed, I think. The Queen probably thinks I'm pro-jellyfish.
| 732 |
McSpiff Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:37:15pm |
CBC: "which is code for 'he's black, he's got a muslim sounding name, and he's in our whitehouse'"
Heh most honest coverage I've heard of the birther issue.
| 733 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:37:26pm |
This Birmingham weatherguy is very good. He just described a projected path for a tornado in Clanton, expected to pass between a strawberry stand and Jim's BBQ.
| 734 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:39:06pm |
re: #730 celticdragon
When I think of Trump, I also think of that massive mountain of bat guano you see in the cave episode of Planet Earth. It is huge, and covered with insects and other vermin. Utterly nasty.
Works for me. Trump is a narcissistic shitbird who I will never vote for. End story.
| 737 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:40:20pm |
| 738 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:40:41pm |
re: #737 Killgore Trout
Trump Unable To Produce Certificate Proving He's Not A Festering Pile Of Shit
Too late! //
| 739 |
HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:41:20pm |
re: #736 albusteve
some Robert Johnson
[Video]
Thanks Steve, I always enjoyed that on Let It Bleed. Had no idea for the longest time that it was a Johnson song.
| 740 |
Petero1818 Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:41:35pm |
Personally I think it was a mistake to release this now. He should have waited until the GOP primary was in full swing, and let the GOP battle itself over the relevance of this issue. The whole debate was making independents run like hell from the GOP and disarming the wingnuts within the GOP will kill this issue in the primary.
| 742 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:43:22pm |
This is pretty cool.
Recycling ad skills into bike skills
A Richmond man uses his advertising expertise to start a company rebuilding motorcycles. CNN's Tom Foreman reports.
| 743 |
albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:43:40pm |
re: #739 HappyWarrior
Thanks Steve, I always enjoyed that on Let It Bleed. Had no idea for the longest time that it was a Johnson song.
a Stones masterpiece
| 744 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:44:13pm |
re: #737 Killgore Trout
Trump Unable To Produce Certificate Proving He's Not A Festering Pile Of Shit
BTW. Block those first two followers on Twitter. Ain't real.
| 745 |
HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:44:35pm |
Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues is going to be such an awesome album.
| 746 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:44:40pm |
re: #725 Gus 802
Yo. Decatur Deb. Check your ding on #711. Methinks you hit the wrong button.
re: #726 EmmmieG
No, he's really part of the great jellyfish conspiracy, and doesn't like it exposed.
hehehe.
After being called out by Gus, he reversed the downding, apparently, because it isn't there. BUT he did not continue on to give an upding! So EmmmieG, I think you're absolutely correct!
| 747 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:45:42pm |
re: #731 Decatur Deb
Thanks--fixed, I think. The Queen probably thinks I'm pro-jellyfish.
That would be pro- dead jellyfish parts attacking La Reine!
| 748 |
Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:46:46pm |
re: #747 reine.de.tout
That would be pro- dead jellyfish parts attacking La Reine!
You have something against amateur dead jellyfish?
| 749 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:46:59pm |
| 750 |
albusteve Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:47:03pm |
re: #745 HappyWarrior
[Video]
Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues is going to be such an awesome album.
sounds like some Beach Boy Monks
| 752 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:47:28pm |
re: #747 reine.de.tout
That would be pro- dead jellyfish parts attacking La Reine!
You're working that lousy little nematocyst for a lot of karma.
| 753 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:47:58pm |
| 754 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:48:13pm |
| 755 |
Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:48:25pm |
re: #740 Petero1818
Personally I think it was a mistake to release this now. He should have waited until the GOP primary was in full swing, and let the GOP battle itself over the relevance of this issue.
And wait for Trump to bow out? Nah.
This not only settles the issue with sane people, but it gives the GOP leadership a Trump sized headache, because now the lunatics think he's a hero for "forcing" Obama to release the long-form. If Trump doesn't run now, the lunatics will be even more inclined to demand a birther candidate, which screws over all the people who are being named as potential candidates.
| 756 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:48:31pm |
re: #752 Decatur Deb
You're working that lousy little nematocyst for a lot of karma.
Well, yeah!
I used to try to tell the noobs to click the "plus" sign whenever they saw my nic, but that stopped working awhile back.
| 757 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:49:00pm |
BTW, if you get a Twitter follower called "Boiler Room Worker", block him. Its the Stalkers. Again.
| 758 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:49:04pm |
re: #752 Decatur Deb
You're working that lousy little nematocyst for a lot of karma.
Nematocyst Karma is my technical death metal band that only uses middle-eastern modes
| 759 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:49:37pm |
re: #753 Killgore Trout
Now blocked. thanks for the heads up.
Yeah. Was watching that this morning. Obdicut doesn't go by Obdicut on Twitter. Some other idiot started up a "Killgore Trout" account this morning.
| 760 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:49:49pm |
re: #757 Dark_Falcon
I haven't gotten a stalker yet. Yay for me!
| 761 |
jaunte Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:50:04pm |
re: #711 reine.de.tout
Oh, says the boat operator. I know what happened. There was a storm last night and it must have broken up the jellyfish and some of the tentacles are floating around and ran into you.
You may be pursued by little floating bits of fire coral after a storm, too.
| 762 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:50:16pm |
All this Alabama weather is piling up in W. Georgia, centering on Atlanta.
| 763 |
zora Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:50:30pm |
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Acclaimed Historian Douglas Brinkley Calls For NBC To Dump Trump, Corporate Sponsors To Pull Ads
... on CNN, acclaimed historian and author Douglas Brinkley pinned the blame for the reemergence of birtherism on NBC Entertainment for giving real estate mogul Donald Trump a primetime platform. Brinkley called on NBC to immediately drop Trump’s show, The Apprentice, from its lineup. If NBC decides to keep Trump on the air, Brinkley called on corporate sponsors to pull their ads or face a massive consumer boycotts...
| 764 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:50:42pm |
re: #761 jaunte
You may be pursued by little floating bits of fire coral after a storm, too.
Oh hell's bells.
| 765 |
Varek Raith Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:50:52pm |
re: #762 Decatur Deb
All this Alabama weather is piling up in W. Georgia, centering on Atlanta.
Please stop sending that weather up here.
Thanks.
/
| 766 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:51:43pm |
Meanwhile, an event in Scottish waters will help to drive up oil prices more.
BP discovers a German naval mine from World War II near pipelines in the North Sea near Peterhead, Scotland with removal of the bomb likely to lead to the temporary closure of 16 oil fields and a consequent rise in the price of oil.
re: #762 Decatur Deb
This isn't going to end well. That storm has already been astoundingly bloody.
| 767 |
prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:51:57pm |
re: #761 jaunte
You may be pursued by little floating bits of fire coral after a storm, too.
Man, I scraped against fire coral on my ankle. That sucker was itching/burning for 11 months.
| 768 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:52:02pm |
| 771 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:53:35pm |
re: #768 Dark_Falcon
Yep.
On an unrelated note, I hope our hurricane season doesn't look like our tornado season this year.
| 772 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:53:40pm |
re: #766 ProLifeLiberal
Meanwhile, an event in Scottish waters will help to drive up oil prices more.
This isn't going to end well. That storm has already been astoundingly bloody.
The Germans used mines extensively in both World Wars. It was a cheap tactic for an inferior naval power to use against a superior one. No surprise we're still finding the damned things.
| 773 |
HappyWarrior Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:55:10pm |
re: #766 ProLifeLiberal
Meanwhile, an event in Scottish waters will help to drive up oil prices more.
This isn't going to end well. That storm has already been astoundingly bloody.
It's a reminder that WWII wasn't that long ago. I think I've read stories about people in Egypt finding landmines from the North African campaign still.
| 774 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:55:21pm |
My Drunk Kitchen Ep. 3: "Omelette You Finish"
| 775 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:56:14pm |
re: #772 Dark_Falcon
It becomes a massive issue whenever a naval mine starts cuddling with an oil pipeline. I'll be watching to see what they do to fix this. It could be interesting.
| 776 |
prairiefire Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:56:24pm |
re: #770 jaunte
Why do the Milleporidae hate us?
Because we are killing them. Have you seen the PBS show "Accidental Eden" with the pristine Cuban coral reefs? It is so sad what has happened in FL. waters.
| 777 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:57:38pm |
DF on Twitter:
And after many attempts by the members of the Diary of Daedalus blog to blogstalk me on Twitter, I present a summation of their posts: DERP!
| 778 |
Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:57:48pm |
re: #773 HappyWarrior
It's a reminder that WWII wasn't that long ago. I think I've read stories about people in Egypt finding landmines from the North African campaign still.
They're everywhere.
WWII weapons found under playground
World War II weapons including grenade-launchers, rifles and ammunition have been found buried less than two metres below a children’s playground in a day-care centre in Bremen, media reported Wednesday.
Experts have spent the last few days searching the area for unexploded ordnance, after studying historical records and aerial photographs, daily Bild reported.
The cache was buried just 1.8 metre below ground – though a layer of concrete that had been lain above the weapons since the end of the war meant there had been little danger to children at the centre, an expert said.
| 779 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:58:21pm |
re: #755 Lidane
And wait for Trump to bow out? Nah.
This not only settles the issue with sane people, but it gives the GOP leadership a Trump sized headache, because now the lunatics think he's a hero for "forcing" Obama to release the long-form. If Trump doesn't run now, the lunatics will be even more inclined to demand a birther candidate, which screws over all the people who are being named as potential candidates.
I've been (ECSTATICALLY! AT LAST!) too busy with fun work-related shenanigans to pay attention to anything today, but that was more or less my knee-jerk assessment. It will drive the crazies even crazier (one thing all conspiracy theories have in common is that any evidence that refutes the conspiracy theory is automatically assumed to be part of the conspiracy). The Trump-fueled distraction becomes more embarrassing, and now the GOP has to resume defending the GOP's plan to return America to the 19th Century.
| 780 |
Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:58:24pm |
re: #776 prairiefire
Because we are killing them. Have you seen the PBS show "Accidental Eden" with the pristine Cuban coral reefs? It is so sad what has happened in FL. waters.
And Rick Scott says he'll take care of the water. No need for the EPA.
| 781 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 7:59:22pm |
The Pittsburgh Penguins lost a game tonight. The reason I know this: Some guy on the Libya live blog put a picture of a penguin being stomped by a person. :(
I'm flagging it.
| 782 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:00:29pm |
re: #775 ProLifeLiberal
It becomes a massive issue whenever a naval mine starts cuddling with an oil pipeline. I'll be watching to see what they do to fix this. It could be interesting.
Usually, mines are blown in place. German mines had anti-disturbance devices to prevent them from being defused and examined. They often quite sophisticated devices, and the Germans did not want the British analyzing them. The Royal Navy took the threat of mine warfare so seriously that whole destroyer flotillas were fitted with Two Speed Destroyer Sweep (TSDS) minesweeping gear instead of sonar prior to WWII.
| 783 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:02:54pm |
re: #758 WindUpBird
Nematocyst Karma is my technical death metal band that only uses middle-eastern modes
You should check out Phrygian Phleshgore.
| 784 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:03:04pm |
re: #774 Killgore Trout
My Drunk Kitchen Ep. 3: "Omelette You Finish"
[Video]
Oh that was hilarious~~~
| 785 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:04:44pm |
re: #757 Dark_Falcon
BTW, if you get a Twitter follower called "Boiler Room Worker", block him. Its the Stalkers. Again.
Oh let me see
| 786 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:04:47pm |
re: #778 kragar (proud to be kafir)
They're everywhere.
Panzerfausts were designed to take out tanks. The explosives in one of them could blow a human touching it to pieces. I wonder, though, what kind of rifles those are. Mausers, or STG-44s?
| 788 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:06:01pm |
re: #785 WindUpBird
Oh let me see
I pity anyone dumb enough to blogstalk WUB. All it gets you is a heaping helping of mockery.
| 789 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:06:12pm |
re: #760 ProLifeLiberal
I haven't gotten a stalker yet. Yay for me!
Give them all to me, I'm using my twitter account to try out new material
Twitter is full of ridiculous people whose names are like idiot haikus. @LOGICAL_HUMAN, @INFORMED-BLACk_GUY
Just the dumbest tiniest squares, with tiny voices, so easy to riff on, so much fun
| 792 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:09:36pm |
re: #787 ProLifeLiberal
This won't end well.
Very little about buried weapons does. In Russia they're still finding guns from WWII. The Russian Mafia uses dug-up Tokarevs as drop pieces for killings. They tend to hang onto Lugers though, valuing their higher grade of craftsmanship and the fact that their finish was so good they are sometimes found after being buried for over 50 years without any pitting at all. But Germany paid a price for the high quality of the Luger: It took far longer than the Tokarev to build.
| 793 |
celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:10:22pm |
re: #786 Dark_Falcon
Panzerfausts were designed to take out tanks. The explosives in one of them could blow a human touching it to pieces. I wonder, though, what kind of rifles those are. Mausers, or STG-44s?
Short Kurz STG-44's would be a cool find.
| 795 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:11:58pm |
I found an Alabama tweet:
The #tornado made a direct hit on the Curry Building, which houses city's Environmental Services. It is now "inoperable," Maddox said
Don't know what city this is. Some of the Met. Majors at OU said this Tuscaloosa-Birmingham Tornado may rival the OKC tornado of 1999.
| 796 |
celticdragon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:13:19pm |
re: #786 Dark_Falcon
Interesting. I just found that 7.9 mm Kurz is still in production since some forces are still using the STG-44. Who knew?
| 798 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:15:39pm |
| 799 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:16:18pm |
re: #793 celticdragon
Short Kurz STG-44's would be a cool find.
If they could be recovered, yes. This may have been some 'Werewolf's (Nazi guerrillas) weapons cache. If so, I'm glad it stayed buried and wasn't used against our troops back then. I admire then skills that went into the STG-44, but like all of us I do not forget it was built to advance a truly horrific cause.
| 800 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:17:16pm |
re: #795 ProLifeLiberal
I found an Alabama tweet:
Don't know what city this is. Some of the Met. Majors at OU said this Tuscaloosa-Birmingham Tornado may rival the OKC tornado of 1999.
Don't know the town. Some of the touchdown locations are in poorly-served isolated areas. Even a 'normal' tornado can completely erase some of our small towns.
| 801 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:17:46pm |
re: #796 celticdragon
Interesting. I just found that 7.9 mm Kurz is still in production since some forces are still using the STG-44. Who knew?
Indeed, some them were found in the hands of al-Sadr's force in Iraq. Our own troops had ammo made for them in order to test out the rifle their grandfathers fought against.
| 802 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:18:19pm |
re: #799 Dark_Falcon
Eh, just go to Algeria, or an Arab Country, or the Horn of Africa to get one. They're still used there to some amount. Heck, they make Semi-Auto reproductions in Germany now.
Wiki is magic.
| 803 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:18:21pm |
re: #790 prairiefire
The cheese is trapped.
Once the burning smell stops, that's how you know there's no salmonella.
| 805 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:19:47pm |
re: #796 celticdragon
Interesting. I just found that 7.9 mm Kurz is still in production since some forces are still using the STG-44. Who knew?
I would be completely shocked to see evidence of this.
| 807 |
MinisterO Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:21:23pm |
re: #414 brookly red
well you have succeeded in convincing me that there is no purpose for me to continue with this thread
Heh, who woulda thunk that "Tea Klux Klan" woulda shut him up?
| 808 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:22:02pm |
There may be new problems in Misrata now. From Rebel Government site:
A new type of missile has been launched on the civilians of Misrata late afternoon. After striking its target, the vicinity of the blast remains set ablaze for hours. Could it be Napalm, which is banned by the United Nations? Only time will tell.
| 809 |
Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:22:42pm |
re: #805 negativ
I would be completely shocked to see evidence of this.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
After World War II, the Soviet Union and other Eastern Bloc states supplied client regimes and guerrilla movements with captured German arms such as the StG44 along with newly manufactured or repackaged 7.92x33mm ammunition. French forces discovered many in Algeria and determined the origin to be from Czechoslovakia. Examples also found their way into the hands of the PLO and Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Vietcong during the Vietnam War. It is still used in very limited numbers by militia forces in the Middle East[22] as well as some countries in the Horn of Africa. StG44s have been confiscated from militia groups by U.S. forces in Iraq.
| 810 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:23:25pm |
re: #808 ProLifeLiberal
There may be new problems in Misrata now. From Rebel Government site:
I saw the napalm tweets. God I hope not, this somehow has to end. Did they ever confirm clusterbombs? And are those outlawed?
| 812 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:23:55pm |
Guys, I think someone may be trying to impersonate Ludwug on Twitter. I've found a 'LudwigVanQuixote' nic on twitter, following some of us but also the 'diaryofdaedalus' and 'rsmccain' feeds. And the byline is "Slut Shaming Scientist", which is what Bagua calls Ludwig. Thoughts?
| 813 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:24:32pm |
re: #812 Dark_Falcon
Guys, I think someone may be trying to impersonate Ludwug on Twitter. I've found a 'LudwigVanQuixote' nic on twitter, following some of us but also the 'diaryofdaedalus' and 'rsmccain' feeds. And the byline is "Slut Shaming Scientist", which is what Bagua calls Ludwig. Thoughts?
No you're right. I brought that up earlier.
| 814 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:24:47pm |
re: #801 Dark_Falcon
Indeed, some them were found in the hands of al-Sadr's force in Iraq. Our own troops had ammo made for them in order to test out the rifle their grandfathers fought against.
Again, utterly skeptical. The AK-47 was based on the StG44. I'd be more likely to believe that someone mistook a fucked-up-six-ways-to-Sunday AK-47 for an StG44, especially in a country where NATO ammo is all over the place (unlike 7.9Kurz)
| 815 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:24:53pm |
re: #795 ProLifeLiberal
It appears as if there was a very long track supercell that started in MS and went all the way across AL into GA, and that it generated tornadoes all along the way. There were other cells too that look like they were tornadic for quite some time.
| 816 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:25:38pm |
Photo of Tuscaloosa damage. Bad bad bad
[Link: yfrog.com...]
| 817 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:26:07pm |
re: #812 Dark_Falcon
Guys, I think someone may be trying to impersonate Ludwug on Twitter. I've found a 'LudwigVanQuixote' nic on twitter, following some of us but also the 'diaryofdaedalus' and 'rsmccain' feeds. And the byline is "Slut Shaming Scientist", which is what Bagua calls Ludwig. Thoughts?
Ludwig said he wasn't on Twitter at all and anyone under his name is a fake.
| 818 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:26:24pm |
| 819 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:26:28pm |
re: #808 ProLifeLiberal
There may be new problems in Misrata now. From Rebel Government site:
It could be thermobaric munitions, too. But the long burn time does suggest napalm. Nasty stuff, and devastating for anti-personnel work. We used it in that capacity on Iwo Jima and Okinawa and later in Korea and Vietnam.
| 820 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:26:30pm |
re: #812 Dark_Falcon
Guys, I think someone may be trying to impersonate Ludwug on Twitter. I've found a 'LudwigVanQuixote' nic on twitter, following some of us but also the 'diaryofdaedalus' and 'rsmccain' feeds. And the byline is "Slut Shaming Scientist", which is what Bagua calls Ludwig. Thoughts?
Nasty sock.
| 821 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:27:51pm |
re: #820 Stanley Sea
Nasty sock.
By definition, not a sock. A sock would be LVQ with a different nic pretending not to be LVQ. It's a nic-jacking.
| 822 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:29:14pm |
re: #810 Stanley Sea
I think the Cluster Bombs were confirmed. At least, that's what I remember seeing HRW saying view days ago about that in Misrata.
Qaddafi can't d this forever. Things are wobbly for him, areas in his control are restive, and the rebels seem to be very resourceful. I remember hearing about 10 day ago how the rebels in Misrata managed to trap a tank in ditch dug in middle of a street.
| 823 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:30:31pm |
re: #821 EmmmieG
By definition, not a sock. A sock would be LVQ with a different nic pretending not to be LVQ. It's a nic-jacking.
gotcha.
| 824 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:30:44pm |
re: #817 JasonA
Ludwig said he wasn't on Twitter at all and anyone under his name is a fake.
Understood. Glad to here that. And to the Stalkers, for engaging in the nic-jacking they spent so long decrying:
| 825 |
Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:30:54pm |
Time to call it a night Lizards.
Dinner turned out better than I thought it would (I didn't over cook it).
May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.
And yes, Mrs. Johnson, The Lord Knows I'm Drinking.
| 826 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:31:51pm |
re: #821 EmmmieG
By definition, not a sock. A sock would be LVQ with a different nic pretending not to be LVQ. It's a nic-jacking.
Twitter would call it a parody account.
| 827 |
Varek Raith Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:32:19pm |
re: #817 JasonA
Ludwig said he wasn't on Twitter at all and anyone under his name is a fake.
Oy.
Same here. If any of you see a follower with my nic, it's not me.
| 828 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:32:44pm |
| 829 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:33:04pm |
The Tuscaloosa video is interesting because starting around 2:00 in you can see the multiple small vertices spinning outside the main body of the tornado, as water condenses to form clouds right in the vertices.
| 830 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:33:17pm |
I have enough things to deal with in my life and don't need to have any of my time consumed with idiots. Tweetdeck does the trick. If not I was about to get sucked into that bullshit and believe me had I responded in kind it wouldn't have been pretty.
| 831 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:34:25pm |
re: #828 EmmmieG
Parodies are supposed to be good natured.
Yes, but the form is often abused by the malicious.
| 832 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:35:31pm |
It seems that France is now confronting Algeria over the Algerian Government's military support of Gaddafi.
| 833 |
Digital Display Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:35:49pm |
OMG.. Buddy Guy is the music guest tonight on Leno...
| 834 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:36:26pm |
re: #832 ProLifeLiberal
It seems that France is now confronting Algeria over the Algerian Government's military support of Gaddafi.
The question is what can Sarkozy do to put the arm to them.
| 835 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:37:45pm |
And another thing. I read all kinds of right wing bullshit on Twitter and the internet. It never occurred to me to chase any of those people down and harass them for the rest of my life. I actually had a few exchanges with that one guy over at Patterico and even though it was somewhat intense it didn't turn into a life long ambition for either of us. Some non stalking Tweeters will give me shit and I basically blow them off. But yeah. People say the craziest things as I see it but don't want to follow them for the rest of my life.
| 836 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:37:52pm |
re: #828 EmmmieG
Parodies are supposed to be good natured.
twitter isn't brain surgery
I'm chosen to amuse myself with my insult comedy routine
| 837 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:37:53pm |
The storms are winding down in AL. Both daughters' families are OK, but a friend lost a house in the Birmingham suburbs. Dau 2 is getting some sleep, after being awakened by the first storm before dawn. She'll need the rest--she's a commercial insurance broker with accounts in the N Alabama area. It will be days before the impact on the remote towns is measured.
| 838 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:38:17pm |
re: #812 Dark_Falcon
Guys, I think someone may be trying to impersonate Ludwug on Twitter. I've found a 'LudwigVanQuixote' nic on twitter, following some of us but also the 'diaryofdaedalus' and 'rsmccain' feeds. And the byline is "Slut Shaming Scientist", which is what Bagua calls Ludwig. Thoughts?
My money's on "genuine", Bob.
| 840 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:39:00pm |
re: #834 Dark_Falcon
Morocco is pissed at Algeria. Also, the Algerian Government is unpopular internally. France could use this, combined with intelligence gained about the Polisario Front gained in Libya recently, to make the lives of Bouteflika and his gang miserable.
| 841 |
Varek Raith Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:39:03pm |
re: #837 Decatur Deb
The storms are winding down in AL. Both daughters' families are OK, but a friend lost a house in the Birmingham suburbs. Dau 2 is getting some sleep, after being awakened by the first storm before dawn. She'll need the rest--she's a commercial insurance broker with accounts in the N Alabama area. It will be days before the impact on the remote towns is measured.
Damn, what a freaky day.
There was a tornado in Qauntico and another a county south of here.
| 842 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:39:07pm |
You. Someone says something you really hate just say "you're a fucking idiot" and move on! :)
| 843 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:39:16pm |
re: #828 EmmmieG
Parodies are supposed to be good
naturedfunny.
| 844 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:39:32pm |
re: #817 JasonA
Ludwig said he wasn't on Twitter at all and anyone under his name is a fake.
No shit, guys 9_9
Why are we even discussing this, twitter for politics is just nothing but a snowball fight
| 845 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:41:11pm |
re: #844 WindUpBird
No shit, guys 9_9
Why are we even discussing this, twitter for politics is just nothing but a snowball fight
I wanted to confirm it was a fake, WUB. That's all.
| 846 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:41:20pm |
And I don't understand people that HATE Little Green Footballs yet read it every day. That's just fecking weird. That's like watching something on TV that you really hate. There's a gall darn off switch on this thing. If you hate it. Turn it off. There are plenty of websites I hate. Last thing on my mind would be to go to those websites every single day.
| 847 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:41:41pm |
hint to everyone:
DO NOT TAKE TWITTER THAT SERIOUSLY
I managed to troll a goddamn conservative television producer with a real career in the real media, into an hour long exchange
Twitter is free, siple, and everyone can play. And everyone does! snowball fight.
| 850 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:42:35pm |
I don't like Hot Air (anymore). Ergo, I don't visit Hot Air except for perhaps once a week to check on some responses. Granted. Hot Air really isn't the worst wingnut site in the world.
| 851 |
Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:43:22pm |
re: #836 WindUpBird
twitter isn't brain surgery
I'm chosen to amuse myself with my insult comedy routine
Esoteric references here.
| 852 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:44:13pm |
I can't stand Alex Jones. The last thing on my mind would be to read Prisonplanet or Infowars everyday. I also have no interest in harassing Alex Jones for the rest of my life nor do I care what he does in his personal life.
| 853 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:45:00pm |
re: #845 Dark_Falcon
I wanted to confirm it was a fake, WUB. That's all.
you are being trolled BY THEM, dude
Every day you get trolled by them, that's why it's frustrating
They just bandy you about and make you dance, and you like the attention. You want it!
If you want to go tangle with them, then go do it. it's fun! I like a flamewar! But this sorta leaking out little things, and whinging and talking about it and then dominating threads with OH GUESS WHAT THEY SAID?>!?!?!?!
it's weak, it disrupts real discussion, it shouldn't be on LGF at all. if it was up to me, every mention of any of those guys on LGF would be deleted. it ain't my blog, but if it were, that's what I'd do.
You give them
exactly
what
they want.
they're smarter than you, now. Don't let them be that. Or do! I don't care.
| 854 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:45:41pm |
| 855 |
Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:45:43pm |
Blargh. Finishing up a Marketing Research exam. I am drained and totally unmotivated but it's due in an hour, so I just have to get it done.
Let the prof deal with 30+ pages of SPSS statistics. I don't wanna anymore.
| 856 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:46:04pm |
| 857 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:47:23pm |
re: #855 Lidane
Blargh. Finishing up a Marketing Research exam. I am drained and totally unmotivated but it's due in an hour, so I just have to get it done.
Let the prof deal with 30+ pages of SPSS statistics. I don't wanna anymore.
marketing to me sounds a lot different than marketing in an academic setting, holy yikes O_O
| 858 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:48:05pm |
Or Big Government. Another site that sucks IMO. Do I visit that site. No!
| 859 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:48:53pm |
re: #854 reine.de.tout
OMG.
It's going to be a rough morning. Gah what a year so far. And I'm completely untouched, yet affected. Imagine the people actually going thru this shit.
| 860 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:48:58pm |
re: #840 ProLifeLiberal
Morocco is pissed at Algeria. Also, the Algerian Government is unpopular internally. France could use this, combined with intelligence gained about the Polisario Front gained in Libya recently, to make the lives of Bouteflika and his gang miserable.
Israel's attacking the E-rak-ees
One of my great regrets, never seeing Zevon live
| 862 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:50:28pm |
Zevon, a kindred spirit in music
| 863 |
austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:51:35pm |
re: #860 WindUpBird
Israel's attacking the E-rak-ees
[Video]One of my great regrets, never seeing Zevon live
Too bad, my man. The demented dwarf was un-fucking-believable live in a small club.
| 865 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:51:59pm |
re: #854 reine.de.tout
My thoughts were similar. I just saw on Twitter that the total death toll for today maybe over 72. That's deadly. And this outbreak has been going on for a while. We had those Arkansas Tornadoes a few days ago, and before that, the first Tornado in St. Louis in over 40 years.
| 866 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:52:10pm |
re: #847 WindUpBird
I managed to troll a goddamn conservative television producer with a real career in the real media, into an hour long exchange
Pfft. I sent an envelope containing nothing but a $1 bill to Robert Tilton in the 80s, and got free shit from his 'ministry' for over a year.
That was immediately after he got caught.
To this day, I am still slightly pissed off at Diane Sawyer for robbing me of some of the finest free TV entertainment there was available in the late 80s-early 90s.
Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much of Pastor Tilton's unbesmirched preachin' on line. That's too bad.
| 867 |
Varek Raith Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:53:11pm |
Lol.
Lawrence O'Donnell cut off Orly Taitz...
| 868 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:53:54pm |
Jonah Goldberg Tweeted me yesterday. Basically saying that he wasn't a birther and was just making fun out of leftist conspiracies. I responded with a basic "oops" and deleted my re-Tweet. Frankly I didn't read the original too deeply. It was just a re-Tweet not and endorsement. But hey, if Jonah isn't a birther I don't want to spread a false rumor either. Ironically I got it from one of our more conservative LGF members. Not a big deal.
| 869 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:54:46pm |
re: #867 Varek Raith
Lol.
Lawrence O'Donnell cut off Orly Taitz...
For some reason I am remembering some Anastasia believers who were confronted with the blood tests that linked "Anastasia" to the German factory worker, not to the royal family.
They just wouldn't accept it. "No, no that can't be right," they kept saying.
| 870 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:55:38pm |
re: #868 Gus 802
He is an opportunistic shill for all sorts of right wing memes, though. Just a couple of days ago he was pushing "climategate" and all sorts of nonsense wrt energy.
| 871 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:55:46pm |
re: #861 Gus 802
^_^;;
I will say that the part of online skirmishing that really enriches me, is just coming up with comedy
I knew a couple guys who were psuedo-pro comedians in seattle, not real pro, but they got some gigs in college, played to clubs. And I could never do it live, but it's so much fun to do online. My only real weapon is comedy. I'm skinny, I'm small, I got a body that's not good for much besides making art, I'm actually LOSING WEIGHT because I'm eating better, I'm just this twig, right? But I'm funny! Funny got me beat up a couple times. Funny made me a hundred friends who kept me from getting beat up too.
We all work with the tools that the cosmos gave us, right?
And I like using those tools. I gotta use them, to keep them sharp. I'm cutting out vices from my life now, to be sharper. I'm writing more now, fiction, poetry, song lyrics, whatever. Language is a gift, and using it well will make you a living. same with a pencil, same with a guitar. And Twitter's a fun arena. Like a Danger Room on the X-Men.
But we gotta be honest about what we're doing :)
| 872 |
jaunte Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:55:50pm |
re: #866 negativ
Pfft. I sent an envelope containing nothing but a $1 bill to Robert Tilton in the 80s, and got free shit from his 'ministry' for over a year.
That guy was such a freak.
| 873 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:56:26pm |
re: #863 austin_blue
Too bad, my man. The demented dwarf was un-fucking-believable live in a small club.
Oh I seeth with jealousy and God Bless You for getting the chance to see him. ^_^
Mister Bad Example, Intruder in The Dirt
| 874 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:57:02pm |
re: #866 negativ
oh dude! Tilton! Rock oN! I loved Tilton, he was madness!
| 875 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:57:22pm |
And another thing! Sheesh. When I say Tea Klux Klan that's me being satirical. It's not a direct equivalence. It's common for Americans to compare tacit racism to the KKK. This is nothing new.
| 876 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:57:59pm |
| 877 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:58:29pm |
re: #876 WindUpBird
I would have responded differently :)
Oh the ways I censor myself here
Windsagio is pretty hilarious on there.
| 878 |
BongCrodny Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:59:49pm |
re: #860 WindUpBird
Israel's attacking the E-rak-ees
[Video]One of my great regrets, never seeing Zevon live
Heh. Saw him about 10-12 times, and never got enough.
A friend and I once drove two hours through a blinding snowstorm to a backwoods ski resort in the wilds of western Maine. I told my buddy that anybody going to a concert in this weather must be absolutely nuts.
By the time we got there, there were so many people they were pulling in tables from other buildings. Even Zevon seemed stunned by the reception.
If you've never heard the song, I'd recommend looking for the "Learning To Flinch" album. "The Indifference of Heaven" is just an amazing piece of work.
| 879 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:00:42pm |
re: #860 WindUpBird
One of my great regrets, never seeing Zevon live
The only WZ song I have ever heard that I care to hear more than once:
That particular performance, too.
| 880 |
Lidane Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:01:24pm |
re: #857 WindUpBird
marketing to me sounds a lot different than marketing in an academic setting, holy yikes O_O
Marketing Research = statistics, statistics, and more statistics. Oh, and interviews and focus group data. But mostly statistics. =P
| 881 |
BongCrodny Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:03:01pm |
re: #873 WindUpBird
Oh I seeth with jealousy and God Bless You for getting the chance to see him. ^_^
Mister Bad Example, Intruder in The Dirt
...and, quite likely, the only person to ever use the word "brucellosis" in a song.
| 883 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:05:22pm |
Tuscaloosa newspaper photo album:
[Link: www.tuscaloosanews.com...]
| 885 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:06:45pm |
Tornado may have gone beyond Birmingham. The town of Argo is along the same general path as the Tuscaloosa-Birmingham Tornado. 13 killed there.
| 886 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:13:46pm |
re: #882 Gus 802
The Amazing Racist - Ari nearly gets killed LOL!
[Video]
Absolutely sublime satire.
| 887 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:15:47pm |
re: #882 Gus 802
The Amazing Racist - Ari nearly gets killed LOL!
[Video]
I've seen that guy's stuff before. It's not funny. It's just obnoxious, racist jackassery with no punchline.
Compare and contrast with this:
One of these kids is not like the other one.
| 888 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:15:56pm |
re: #886 researchok
Absolutely sublime satire.
Yep. Seems like some of the people are responding like "this can't be for real."
| 889 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:17:35pm |
re: #888 Gus 802
Yep. Seems like some of the people are responding like "this can't be for real."
Describe "The Amazing Racist's" target audience.
| 890 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:18:03pm |
I'm still laughing.
It really is the antithesis of PC.
This is Piss Christ redone.
| 891 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:18:03pm |
re: #887 negativ
I've seen that guy's stuff before. It's not funny. It's just obnoxious, racist jackassery with no punchline.
Compare and contrast with this:
[Video]One of these kids is not like the other one.
Ah OK. I've seen that video before. Love it. That's actually a Johnny Rebel song. But I see you've judged my video. Wish I had a solid principles like you do.
| 894 |
Kragar Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:19:23pm |
re: #890 researchok
I'm still laughing.
It really is the antithesis of PC.
This is Piss Christ redone.
I prefer the original.
| 895 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:19:30pm |
re: #889 negativ
Describe "The Amazing Racist's" target audience.
Chill out or else I'll start posting Bob Dylan videos.
| 896 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:20:34pm |
re: #889 negativ
Describe "The Amazing Racist's" target audience.
EVERYBODY!
That's the point! Ugliness and bigotry are not PC approved efforts. Ugliness and bigotry are meant to elicit a visceral response.
| 897 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:20:48pm |
Whatever happened to the LNDTs? Guess they died. Everyone's always on and always ready to pounce about something. Like I said. Sooooo serious.
| 900 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:22:48pm |
| 901 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:23:43pm |
| 902 |
freetoken Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:25:42pm |
Here's an animated image of a radar loop that I think covers the time when the cell went right through Tuscaloosa and then into NW Birmingham area.
Lots of rotation seen in the cells on radar. Very violent storms.
| 903 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:25:57pm |
re: #900 negativ
re: #892 Gus 802
I'm just waiting on you to explain what parts are funny.
The whole damn thing! Don't you get it?
He's poking fun at himself and what he ostensibly stands for.
Like Piss Christ, he's drawing attention to the dark side- and utter stupidity- of those who claim moral superiority by virtue of what they believe and not by virtue of their actions, as if those actions had no influence.
| 904 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:26:43pm |
re: #899 Gus 802
But those are B-52 bombers and I hAtE the military!
//
No, Gus, I just think you're wrong about some things. You're no type of hater.
| 905 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:26:57pm |
re: #900 negativ
re: #892 Gus 802
I'm just waiting on you to explain what parts are funny.
It's because you would never expect a Klan member to do such a thing. It's isn't as much about those responding to him but how Ari responds. It's the deadpan aspect of it. It's also the fact that no one really responds violently against him for the most part.
| 906 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:27:47pm |
re: #904 Dark_Falcon
No, Gus, I just think you're wrong about some things. You're no type of hater.
No way. I'm never wrong.
//
| 907 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:28:28pm |
re: #901 Gus 802
Got me. Let me think about it. Try this one.
[Video]
You're not as good at this as I previously thought.
| 908 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:28:58pm |
re: #907 negativ
You're not as good at this as I previously thought.
See. That tells me that you're taking yourself way too seriously. I'm not.
| 910 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:29:25pm |
re: #901 Gus 802
Got me. Let me think about it. Try this one.
[Video]
Art appreciation ought to be a mandatory class.
Seriously.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people see art as a disconnect from culture/society.
Art. architecture and even engineering reflect the world we live in.
If you can't see that you can't understand the world around you.
The piece is meant o be provocative and jarring.
| 911 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:31:13pm |
re: #907 negativ
You're not as good at this as I previously thought.
Come on. Join in on the fun. Post a Styx video or maybe Yngwie Malmsteen.
//
| 912 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:31:27pm |
re: #903 researchok
The whole damn thing! Don't you get it?
He's poking fun at himself and what he ostensibly stands for.
Like Piss Christ, he's drawing attention to the dark side- and utter stupidity- of those who claim moral superiority by virtue of what they believe and not by virtue of their actions, as if those actions had no influence.
And apparently, he's the only one in on the joke. How many bricks would be shat with your sympathy if he'd donned an SS uniform and conducted identical shenanigans in and around the Simon Weisenthal Center?
| 913 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:32:00pm |
re: #910 researchok
Art appreciation ought to be a mandatory class.
Seriously.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people see art as a disconnect from culture/society.
Art. architecture and even engineering reflect the world we live in.
If you can't see that you can't understand the world around you.
The piece is meant o be provocative and jarring.
Isn't it in the Constitution? That we have a right not to be offended?
| 914 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:32:09pm |
re: #909 Gus 802
[Video]
Sure, bring in Billy Joel, the philosopher of our time.
Next you'll post Piano man...
///
| 916 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:33:27pm |
re: #909 Gus 802
[Video]
"You may be right,
I may be crazy.
But it just might be a lun-a-tic,
You're lookin' for!"
I love that song. I tend to identify more with "I Go to Extremes", though.
| 917 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:33:28pm |
re: #912 negativ
And apparently, he's the only one in on the joke. How many bricks would be shat with your sympathy if he'd donned an SS uniform and conducted identical shenanigans in and around the Simon Weisenthal Center?
Oh please. That's like reverse Godwinism. Spare me.
| 918 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:34:18pm |
re: #912 negativ
And apparently, he's the only one in on the joke. How many bricks would be shat with your sympathy if he'd donned an SS uniform and conducted identical shenanigans in and around the Simon Weisenthal Center?
Every single person in Shaffir's videos is a willing, paid participant. They sign releases and know full well what they're getting into. The whole thing is made to look candid, but it's all contrived. It's not my thing by a long stretch, but he is absolutely not the only one in on the joke.
| 919 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:34:43pm |
re: #913 Gus 802
Isn't it in the Constitution? That we have a right not to be offended?
I'm still laughing- Piss Christ made outraged people- and at the other end of the same axis, this guy made em laugh.
Thank you for offending me. I hereby cede my right not to be offended.
| 920 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:35:14pm |
re: #910 researchok
Art appreciation ought to be a mandatory class.
Seriously.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people see art as a disconnect from culture/society.
Art. architecture and even engineering reflect the world we live in.
If you can't see that you can't understand the world around you.
The piece is meant o be provocative and jarring.
This is what you learn at age 14 in 6th grade, in Texas no less. Later in 6th grade, you learn how art functions as a disconnect from culture/society.
| 921 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:35:28pm |
re: #918 goddamnedfrank
Every single person in Shaffir's videos is a willing, paid participant. They sign releases and know full well what they're getting into. The whole thing is made to look candid, but it's all contrived. It's not my thing by a long stretch, but he is absolutely not the only one in on the joke.
The camera tells that story, for sure.
| 922 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:36:04pm |
re: #920 negativ
This is what you learn at age 14 in 6th grade, in Texas no less. Later in 6th grade, you learn how art functions as a disconnect from culture/society.
I guess not everyone learns the lesson.
| 923 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:36:16pm |
re: #919 researchok
I'm still laughing- Piss Christ made outraged people- and at the other end of the same axis, this guy made em laugh.
Thank you for offending me. I hereby cede my right not to be offended.
Heck. I've offended some people in real life that I almost got my ass kicked a few times. And I didn't even interact with the potential ass kicker. That's life. We're always offending somebody even when we're not trying.
| 925 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:38:33pm |
re: #923 Gus 802
Heck. I've offended some people in real life that I almost got my ass kicked a few times. And I didn't even interact with the potential ass kicker. That's life. We're always offending somebody even when we're not trying.
Keeps us human- and alive.
| 926 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:39:23pm |
re: #925 researchok
Keeps us human- and alive.
Noted!
Let it be shown on the record!
//The ayes have it.
/
| 927 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:40:25pm |
re: #926 Gus 802
Noted!
Let it be shown on the record!
//The ayes have it.
/
You're out of order.
Thankfully.
//
| 928 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:41:53pm |
re: #927 researchok
You're out of order.
Thankfully.
//
Cripes. I survived the tail end of the wingnuts. Can you imagine some folks having to suffer Igloo White and Earth First? I did. I didn't like it but I lived through it. I have this funny thing called my real life that makes me forget about a lot of this internet shit.
| 929 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:42:14pm |
re: #926 Gus 802
My honest opinion: I didn't find him funny. Not because I thought he crossed a line, or I felt it was offensive or anything. I just don't think he's a funny person. Maybe it was the delivery or something, I dunno.
| 930 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:43:30pm |
re: #929 JasonA
My honest opinion: I didn't find him funny. Not because I thought he crossed a line, or I felt it was offensive or anything. I just don't think he's a funny person. Maybe it was the delivery or something, I dunno.
Are we taking a poll? Am I going to be judged for having posted that? Is that a reflection of my true self? Do you know me or does anyone else really know me? I think Iceweasel probably knows me the best but I digress.
| 931 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:44:36pm |
What's weird though is that I kind of liked Igloo White guy. He used to talk about shooting atheists in Vietnam. Yet. I still found a way to see his positive aspects.
| 933 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:45:33pm |
re: #918 goddamnedfrank
Every single person in Shaffir's videos is a willing, paid participant. They sign releases and know full well what they're getting into. The whole thing is made to look candid, but it's all contrived. It's not my thing by a long stretch, but he is absolutely not the only one in on the joke.
YES, well, so long as everyone got paid. Getting paid: the legitimacy litmus test for everything from prostitution to world-record gangbang videos to human trafficking to whatever the hell you want. Dollars only change hands under completely voluntary circumstances. Otherwise, everyone can rely on the courts to help them out.
| 934 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:45:52pm |
re: #928 Gus 802
Cripes. I survived the tail end of the wingnuts. Can you imagine some folks having to suffer Igloo White and Earth First? I did. I didn't like it but I lived through it. I have this funny thing called my real life that makes me forget about a lot of this internet shit.
You're a better man than I.
Not really, but for a moment you were at peace.
//
Seriously, that's why even we we disagree, I take your opinion seriously.
You get it- all of it. You have never been a one trick pony.
SFZ too.
| 935 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:46:42pm |
re: #930 Gus 802
Are we taking a poll? Am I going to be judged for having posted that? Is that a reflection of my true self? Do you know me or does anyone else really know me? I think Iceweasel probably knows me the best but I digress.
Nah. Judging Ari more than anything else. And it's a lot easier to find a joke offensive if it doesn't make you laugh. I don't give a shit, though, so it's all good.
| 936 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:47:31pm |
re: #934 researchok
You're a better man than I.
Not really, but for a moment you were at peace.
//Seriously, that's why even we we disagree, I take your opinion seriously.
You get it- all of it. You have never been a one trick pony.
SFZ too.
Tank man. You too. I wear my badge on my shoulder. What you see is what you get. I don't lie. I don't pretend to be perfect. Being perfect sucks. I like imperfect people. Perfect people are annoying.
| 938 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:49:13pm |
re: #935 JasonA
Nah. Judging Ari more than anything else. And it's a lot easier to find a joke offensive if it doesn't make you laugh. I don't give a shit, though, so it's all good.
It is cool. I think that's the second time I've seen that video. Most of the time I'm watching other things. If you get to know me you'd find out. :) Until then, seems like other people will judge me on posting that one video. That's the cool thing about the internet.
//
| 939 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:51:40pm |
re: #936 Gus 802
Tank man. You too. I wear my badge on my shoulder. What you see is what you get. I don't lie. I don't pretend to be perfect. Being perfect sucks. I like imperfect people. Perfect people are annoying.
To be perfect is to be stagnant.
The trick is to wake up every day and say, 'What can I do today to make my life and the life of another just a little bit better than it was yesterday?'
Perfect people are frightened people- afraid to go out and live, fall down,m get up again, laugh spontaneously or have milk come out of their nose at the punchline.
For them, life is about events that start and finish at a defined and predetermined time.
For others, life is an experience, never ending and always evolving.
I like that kind of life.
| 940 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:53:33pm |
re: #939 researchok
To be perfect is to be stagnant.
The trick is to wake up every day and say, 'What can I do today to make my life and the life of another just a little bit better than it was yesterday?'
Perfect people are frightened people- afraid to go out and live, fall down,m get up again, laugh spontaneously or have milk come out of their nose at the punchline.
For them, life is about events that start and finish at a defined and predetermined time.
For others, life is an experience, never ending and always evolving.
I like that kind of life.
It's like evolution. Adaptation. Darwinism. Adapt or perish.
| 941 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:53:49pm |
re: #938 Gus 802
It is cool. I think that's the second time I've seen that video. Most of the time I'm watching other things. If you get to know me you'd find out. :) Until then, seems like other people will judge me on posting that one video. That's the cool thing about the internet.
//
Or, you can blame it all on caffeine DT's .
You could run with that for years.
//
| 942 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:54:18pm |
re: #940 Gus 802
It's like evolution. Adaptation. Darwinism. Adapt or perish.
Perfect always perishes.
Always.
| 944 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:55:09pm |
re: #941 researchok
Or, you can blame it all on caffeine DT's .
You could run with that for years.
//
Hey. The fun part is seeing people who seem to think they know me better than I know myself.
I try not to be cynical. I really do.
| 945 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:55:10pm |
And now the Stalkers have taken to nic-jacking Charles. Sick, just sick. I mention this not because I'm looking at them because I got a message that I'm being followed by a 'lizardoid' who is clearly a fake. Pathetic.
| 946 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:55:20pm |
| 947 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:55:40pm |
re: #945 Dark_Falcon
And now the Stalkers have taken to nic-jacking Charles. Sick, just sick. I mention this not because I'm looking at them because I got a message that I'm being followed by a 'lizardoid' who is clearly a fake. Pathetic.
Yep. Blocked him this morning.
| 949 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:57:47pm |
| 951 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 9:59:18pm |
There are some great people on LGF, you know?
| 952 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:00:30pm |
re: #951 researchok
There are some great people on LGF, you know?
I guess they show up in the AM threads?
/
| 953 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:00:41pm |
re: #951 researchok
There are some great people on LGF, you know?
We do. But we really need to tone down on the one upmanship sometimes.
| 955 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:01:50pm |
re: #950 Gus 802
And I still like Dick Cheney.
LOLOL
I don't know why I'm laughing- I like the guy too.
In fact, you can see by how he raised his kids the kind of man he is to a great extent. He's pro gay marriage and he is close to daughter Mary.
| 956 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:02:14pm |
re: #953 Gus 802
We do. But we really need to tone down on the one upmanship sometimes.
You first.
/
| 958 |
austin_blue Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:02:53pm |
re: #898 Gus 802
[Video]
Hey! Those are B-52H models. I've got 750 hours on those birds. Hell of an airplane. You wouldn't think that a plane that big climb at over 6,000 ft/minute, but they damn well can. And at low level, using both the IR and Low Light TV turrets, you can comfortably fly at 500 feet above the ground through the Rockies.
It's a bitchin' cool aircraft. Fun as hell to fly.
Then again, with four B-61's and six SRAMs you could kill everything from Washington to Boston.
| 959 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:03:55pm |
| 960 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:03:57pm |
re: #958 austin_blue
Hey! Those are B-52H models. I've got 750 hours on those birds. Hell of an airplane. You wouldn't think that a plane that big climb at over 6,000 ft/minute, but they damn well can. And at low level, using both the IR and Low Light TV turrets, you can comfortably fly at 500 feet above the ground through the Rockies.
It's a bitchin' cool aircraft. Fun as hell to fly.
Then again, with four B-61's and six SRAMs you could kill everything from Washington to Boston.
You'd be a real hit at a Code Pink party.
/
| 961 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:04:11pm |
re: #955 researchok
LOLOL
I don't know why I'm laughing- I like the guy too.
In fact, you can see by how he raised his kids the kind of man he is to a great extent. He's pro gay marriage and he is close to daughter Mary.
Like I always tell people in the meat world. I can't think of anyone I hate. That Cheney supports gay marriage is notable. That he's taken us to wars so to speak? So have others including alleged liberals.
| 962 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:04:29pm |
| 963 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:05:17pm |
re: #960 researchok
You'd be a real hit at a Code Pink party.
/
Maybe if he was wearing pink PVC.
//
| 964 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:05:54pm |
re: #961 Gus 802
Like I always tell people in the meat world. I can't think of anyone I hate. That Cheney supports gay marriage is notable. That he's taken us to wars so to speak? So have others including alleged liberals.
There is not now or has ever been political saintliness.
No matter what the fringe says.
| 965 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:06:32pm |
re: #964 researchok
There is not now or has ever been political saintliness.
No matter what the fringe says.
Yep. Just like Jimmy Carter and East Timor.
| 966 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:06:36pm |
| 967 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:07:10pm |
| 968 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:07:33pm |
"Hi! My name is Jimmy Carter! I signed off on slaughtering close to 50,000 East Timorian people. Peace man!"
//
| 969 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:07:45pm |
| 970 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:07:50pm |
re: #962 researchok
I'm not crazy.
/
all kidding aside, IMHO, Cheney could be a poster boy for so called public servants that put their desires before We The People.
Not a fan of him.... and I am being mild in my description...
| 971 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:08:35pm |
re: #970 boxhead
all kidding aside, IMHO, Cheney could be a poster boy for so called public servants that put their desires before We The People.
Not a fan of him... and I am being mild in my description...
IMO, he's middle of the pack.
| 972 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:09:46pm |
Obama has got Sudan.
Too much tragedy out there.
| 973 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:10:00pm |
re: #969 researchok
And Bush senior screwed the Marsh Arabs over, big time.
Yeah. The really cool part is that Clinton signed DOMA. Whose watch was it under Darfur?
| 975 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:11:01pm |
re: #971 researchok
IMO, he's middle of the pack.
hmmm... I did not see him as believer in either party unless that party was named Cheney.
| 977 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:11:31pm |
re: #973 Gus 802
Yeah. The really cool part is that Clinton signed DOMA. Whose watch was it under Darfur?
Everyone's watch. Darfur goes back decades.
Over two million killed and counting.
No more Christians or animists left to kill. Seriously.
| 978 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:12:08pm |
re: #975 boxhead
hmmm... I did not see him as believer in either party unless that party was named Cheney.
I disagree, respectfully.
| 979 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:12:40pm |
| 980 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:13:22pm |
re: #977 researchok
Everyone's watch. Darfur goes back decades.
Over two million killed and counting.
No more Christians or animists left to kill. Seriously.
Yep. And not enough oil or "American interests".
That's why this whole thing started with Libya. Oil for France. Libya imports most of its oil to France. And. Sarkozy is up for reelection.
| 981 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:13:46pm |
re: #976 Gus 802
But he was FORCED into signing DOMA.
Yeah.
Right.
He gave an impassioned speech, defending DOMA.
He did what he did and at the time it was probably the right thing to do.
Maybe. Certainly politically he was in a safe place signing DOMA.
| 982 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:14:48pm |
re: #980 Gus 802
Yep. And not enough oil or "American interests".
That's why this whole thing started with Libya. Oil for France. Libya imports most of its oil to France. And. Sarkozy is up for reelection.
Gospel, old boy, gospel.
That's why China is in Sudan- oil.
| 983 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:16:48pm |
re: #981 researchok
He gave an impassioned speech, defending DOMA.
He did what he did and at the time it was probably the right thing to do.
Maybe. Certainly politically he was in a safe place signing DOMA.
I'll let you in on a little secret. I was a Clinton booster for his first term. By his second term I thought he was a lying hypocrite. He made embarrassed the office of the president. I didn't support Clinton to get blow jobs. Not that I think it's impeachable per se. But then smoking cigars that he stuck up Monica Lewinsky's vagina? Seriously? What. The. Fuck. Whatever.
| 984 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:17:45pm |
I stayed home for the second election of Clinton. I didn't even vote in 2000.
| 985 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:17:49pm |
re: #983 Gus 802
I'll let you in on a little secret. I was a Clinton booster for his first term. By his second term I thought he was a lying hypocrite. He made embarrassed the office of the president. I didn't support Clinton to get blow jobs. Not that I think it's impeachable per se. But then smoking cigars that he stuck up Monica Lewinsky's vagina? Seriously? What. The. Fuck. Whatever.
Whose vagina should he have stuck them up?
:P
| 986 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:17:56pm |
| 988 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:20:51pm |
A person's sexual life should not be part of the public discussion unless a crime was committed. Sex happens.... If it wasn't for sex I would not be here..
| 989 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:21:14pm |
Gore was even against the Kyoto Treaty at first. Guess that was after he was busy getting his picture taken with Fred Phelps. Tipper drove the music industry up the wall sounding like a wingnut. Zappa hated the Gores.
| 990 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:21:25pm |
| 992 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:22:21pm |
re: #991 Gus 802
There's also the matter of Papa Gore. Whew. What a racist.
lots of Papas fit that bill...
| 993 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:22:28pm |
re: #991 Gus 802
There's also the matter of Papa Gore. Whew. What a racist.
Legendary.
Right up there with Byrd- only Byrd was repentant, sort of.
| 994 |
researchok Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:23:35pm |
Alright, I'm outta here.
Gus, take the helm and watch out for icebergs.
| 995 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:24:04pm |
re: #993 researchok
Legendary.
Right up there with Byrd- only Byrd was repentant, sort of.
See no evil. Speak no evil. Hear no evil.
Yes. He. Was.
Still waiting to see Gitmo closed and the US pull out of Afghanistan.
//Not really.
/
| 996 |
boxhead Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:24:07pm |
| 997 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:25:05pm |
re: #994 researchok
Alright, I'm outta here.
Gus, take the helm and watch out for icebergs.
Later dude. Was fun.
| 1000 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:29:53pm |
re: #969 researchok
And Bush senior screwed the Marsh Arabs over, big time.
Well, one thing you can say about Operation Iraqi Freedom is that Bush the Younger did work to right that particular wrong. He couldn't undo the deaths that had occurred, but we did help restore the marshes.
| 1001 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:34:03pm |
re: #1000 Dark_Falcon
Well, one thing you can say about Operation Iraqi Freedom is that Bush the Younger did work to right that particular wrong. He couldn't undo the deaths that had occurred, but we did help restore the marshes.
I don't judge. We were all Gung Ho after 911.
| 1004 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:40:35pm |
Stupid Youtube. Sharing to Twitter is missing right now. What dorks. Reminds me of the Google idiots. Always updating and always FUCKING up.
| 1005 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:42:00pm |
How many yuppies does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Answer?
Zero.
Yuppies will keep you in the black.
| 1006 |
Gus Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:46:56pm |
Suggested block list:
1389, chenzhen, bluecollartodd, killgore_trout, boman5x, lizardroid, gus_812, gus_903, chuckles3000, 218822, mistercaps, obdicut, lgf_stpancake, phroya, ludwigvanquxote, serr8d, joest73, slinkybewmont
| 1007 |
samgak Wed, Apr 27, 2011 11:39:40pm |
Excellent video debunking the "PDF Layers" birther conspiracy theory:
| 1008 |
dell*nix Thu, Apr 28, 2011 12:09:35am |
re: #898 Gus 802
Watching a B-52 land at an angle to the runway was always a trip.
| 1009 |
yoshicastmaster Thu, Apr 28, 2011 7:41:14am |
Wanted to throw out a thought and see what you guys thought...
I been thinking that movements that regard Obama as un-American - birther, muslim, affirmative action student (read: anti-meritocratic), etc - are more of a general anti-elite reaction than a racist reaction.
For years the Republican party has denigrated intellectualism. We are told to value how Bush and Palin speak like a common person. And that it is pretentious to be amused by Bush-isms. And to make excuses for politicians who don't know what the Bush Doctrine is. Because the'yre more like one of us.
But now the President is a well-spoken, well-educated man who has attended Harvard Law and graduated magna cum laude. It's this intersection of ability, education, and a toned down public religious life that is the real motivator.
This man MUST be an imposter! He's a living symbol disputing everything the conservatives have been feeding the country for over a decade. He's not like us! He's too well spoken (damn intellectual elites thinking they know better). He's too well educated (damn academic elites). He's too accomplished (Editor of Harvard Law Review? So what?). He's too soft spoken about his faith (Why doesn't he mention praying for good policy?)
So he can't be an American. Birtherism, affirmative action suspicions, Kenyan genesis, Muslim faith... these are all linked by the idea that he is not an American. That his activities are un-American. That his perceived "elite" status is just too troubling.
Anyways, just throwing that out there. Hope its food for thought, even if you disagree!
| 1010 |
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