Stunning Photography: The Story of Torne River
A gorgeous short film from Jukkasjärvi, Sweden
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austin_blue Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:12:11pm |
My core body temperature dropped four degrees just watching that. Brrr...
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:15:59pm |
I'm trying to figure out how they got some of those eye-popping tracking shots.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:30:23pm |
Ok, so despite me mocking it mercilessly I have found that the Skyrim: Hearthfire DLC is quite fun, just wish there were more options for the type of home to build.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:34:13pm |
WE’RE a little overwrought now.
The N.R.A. understands that. It’s as patient with us as a husband with a tremulous pregnant wife prone to crying jags.
This is just a passing meltdown. We’ll get ourselves back under control soon and things will return to normal.
For decades, when the public has grown more sympathetic to gun control after an attempted assassination or a spike in gun murders or a harrowing school shooting, Wayne LaPierre and his fellow N.R.A. officials have hunkered down to wait for the “emotional period” or “hysteria,” as they call it, to pass.
They rule in the back rooms on Capitol Hill and rein in panicked senators and congressmen who fret that they should support some measly legislation to pretend they are not pawns of the gun lobby.
They defend anyone owning anything with a trigger, reiterating that military-style semiautomatics are just uglier hunting guns.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:36:21pm |
What strikes me about this video:
[Link: uk.reuters.com...]
Is how they are all dressed alike... as in uniform.
Of course, grandpa was one of Tojo's key industrial weenies and cabinet members.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:37:10pm |
Charles, a question for you. What company did you use to evaluate your comic book collection?
Just had some moron offer me $5.00 for a mint condition, unopened, #1 issue Ren and Stimpy Show comic (with scratch and Sniff card). Yet their web site is selling the same comic (open and minus the card) for $12.91 for a "near mint" condition.
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Usually refered to as anyways Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:45:09pm |
George Bush senior in intensive care
Former US president George HW Bush has taken a turn for the a worse and is in intensive care after a "stubborn fever" delayed his recovery from bronchitis, a spokesman said this morning.
"He's had a series of setbacks now that have landed him in guarded condition in the intensive care unit," spokesman Jim McGrath told the AFP news agency.
The 88-year-old was first admitted to Methodist Hospital in Houston on November 7 for bronchitis treatment and released on November 19.
But he was readmitted on November 23 after his cough flared up again.
Doctors had initially hoped to have the elder statesman home for Christmas, but he was instead forced to spend the holiday in hospital, where he was joined by his wife Barbara, son Neil and grandson Pierce.
"I wouldn't say he was able to celebrate it in the traditional sense," Mr McGrath said. "His family was with him, and he's conscious and he's able to engage in humorous banter with his doctor."
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:45:33pm |
Ooops... I'm late. Time for the next installment of our hourly "gunshot" newswire dump:
VSP: Newbury Man Killed From Gunshot Wound to the Head
Christmas day killing in Norristown under investigation
New Details Released On Vermillion Standoff
Two sought in connection with shooting
Fatal Pass Christian shooting began with dog complaint
ACPD recovers stolen police weapon after shots fired
Shooting victim, suspect both unidentified in Prichard incident, police say
Officers execute search warrant at slain Wauwatosa police officer's home
Toddler fatally shoots self on Christmas Day, father charged
MOAR GUNS!!
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:46:55pm |
If only we had moar gunz... then America would be a better place to live.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 3:51:34pm |
re: #5 freetoken
What strikes me about this video:
[Link: uk.reuters.com...]
Is how they are all dressed alike... as in uniform.
Of course, grandpa was one of Tojo's key industrial weenies and cabinet members.
"It is goodbye
Over the mountains I go today
To the bosom of Buddha
So happy am I."
- Tojo's final poem, written shortly before his death. Though longer than a traditional death haiku, it served the same function.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:01:33pm |
In other news today:
Memorial to 38 hanged Dakota men unveiled in Minn.
The Tea Partiers may want to white-wash American history and erase our bloody past (except for the War Between The States, of course), but we do indeed have a bloody past.
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:02:29pm |
I had to go to work today. I made it through, but it was a rather bitter experience.
At least the traffic was light.
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Kronocide Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:07:12pm |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
I'm trying to figure out how they got some of those eye-popping tracking shots.
Guide wire?
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austin_blue Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:07:14pm |
re: #11 freetoken
In other news today:
Memorial to 38 hanged Dakota men unveiled in Minn.
The Tea Partiers may want to white-wash American history and erase our bloody past (except for the War Between The States, of course), but we do indeed have a bloody past.
Saw this...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:08:38pm |
It looks like San Diego's new mayor, a Democrat and previously member of Congress, feels some freedom to speak his mind:
San Diego mayor takes to L.A. public radio to blast Obama and Congress
In a partial transcript of the session, posted today on KPCC's website, the liberal Democrat first unloads on the GOP.
"I couldn’t believe the kind of people who had come and taken power. Many of them had never had any government experience. They had no respect as it were for government per se. I mean, I don’t know why you run for government office with the intent to close up government."
Filner says half of the Congress didn't believe in science; they thought that "climate change didn’t exist, did not believe in stem cell research, thought that you teach creationism and not evolution." "If you have a group like that, what do you do?" says Filner. "There’s no reaching across the aisle."
Hehe... then he turns on the President:
Filner saves his harshest words for his own party: A President who gives away the store before sitting down to negotiate; Democrats who had run the House for 40 years didn’t understand you can’t legislate as a minority; leadership wasting its time in the weeds on the process of government rather than the politics of trying to win back the House.
"When we were in the minority they would always have motions," he says, for things like defeating the previous question. "Well, who cares about those?" He says nobody knew "what the hell we were talking about and yet we spent all our energy on that."
Glad at least someone of notice is willing to speak out.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:11:43pm |
re: #11 freetoken
In other news today:
Memorial to 38 hanged Dakota men unveiled in Minn.
The Tea Partiers may want to white-wash American history and erase our bloody past (except for the War Between The States, of course), but we do indeed have a bloody past.
In times of old, the victories of US forces over the Native American nations were celebrated. Nowadays, some try to whitewash it because the truth is too widely known for them to celebrate acts of unjust aggression. The Dakota were greatly mistreated and many of those sentenced to death weren't given fair trials. Lincoln knew this and had most of the death sentences commuted, but ordered them carried out in 39 cases (though one of those men was reprieved when testimony casting doubt on his conviction came to light).
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:16:38pm |
re: #11 freetoken
In other news today:
Memorial to 38 hanged Dakota men unveiled in Minn.
The Tea Partiers may want to white-wash American history and erase our bloody past (except for the War Between The States, of course), but we do indeed have a bloody past.
"The Sioux Indians of Minnesota must be exterminated or driven forever beyond the borders of the state."
-- Minnesota Governor Alexander Ramsey
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:20:26pm |
re: #17 Gus
"The Sioux Indians of Minnesota must be exterminated or driven forever beyond the borders of the state."
-- Minnesota Governor Alexander Ramsey
That did not fully happen in 1862, but that was only because so many of the able bodied white population was called away to fight the Civil War. The War Between the States marked a pause in westward expansion, though Native Americans were found on both side of the war.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:20:59pm |
re: #12 Stanghazi
I had to go to work today. I made it through, but it was a rather bitter experience.
At least the traffic was light.
Overtime, or double time, I hope.
Happy New Years, baby!
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:22:57pm |
On a completely unexpected topics - anyone here have any experience with silver-aluminum alloys?
Not commonly encountered, I'm thinking of using such alloy in a future project.
There are online resources courtesy of Google, of course, but they are sparse an often old, or sit behind pay-walls.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:23:33pm |
re: #11 freetoken
In other news today:
Memorial to 38 hanged Dakota men unveiled in Minn.
The Tea Partiers may want to white-wash American history and erase our bloody past (except for the War Between The States, of course), but we do indeed have a bloody past.
A group of Dakota people on horseback make the annual trip to Reconciliation Park in Mankato to remember the 38 men who were hanged near the site 150 years ago. The hanging was the largest mass execution in United States history.
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rwdflynavy Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:24:18pm |
Road block. Cops looking for a man traveling solo. Wore a wig and carried @lukerussert across state lines in a baby bjorn. Bless you, Luke.
— David Gregory (@MeetTheFugitive) December 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:25:09pm |
re: #20 freetoken
On a completely unexpected topics - anyone here have any experience with silver-aluminum alloys?
Not commonly encountered, I'm thinking of using such alloy in a future project.
There are online resources courtesy of Google, of course, but they are sparse an often old, or sit behind pay-walls.
making some custom wheels!?!?
Image: New-18-8-Hyper-Silver-Machined-Edge-FC-STAM-BK340-Aluminum-Alloy-Wheels-DHL-Free-Shipping.jpg
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sattv4u2 Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:27:44pm |
re: #19 Dancing along the light of day
Overtime, or double time, I hope.
Happy New Years, baby!
Yesterday was double time. Even though I didn't have to go in I was the "on call" person just in case, so i chalked up the minimum (4 hours) for that over and above the 8 "regular" ones
Today, just a normal 10 hour shift
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:27:55pm |
re: #19 Dancing along the light of day
Happy New Year to you too Floral!!
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:28:49pm |
re: #23 sattv4u2
No, but I'd like to make a large pendant/small sculpture that will be several troy ounces in weight, and given the price of silver (and that I don't like Sterling for various reasons) I thought maybe an Al-Ag alloy might be an answer.
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:30:01pm |
re: #26 freetoken
No, but I'd like to make a large pendant/small sculpture that will be several troy ounces in weight, and given the price of silver (and that I don't like Sterling for various reasons) I thought maybe an Al-Ag alloy might be an answer.
RWC is the guy to ask.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:31:23pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:31:37pm |
re: #26 freetoken
No, but I'd like to make a large pendant/small sculpture that will be several troy ounces in weight, and given the price of silver (and that I don't like Sterling for various reasons) I thought maybe an Al-Ag alloy might be an answer.
Ahh
Well, sorry, but my oven doesn't go up to 1200-1500 degrees!!!!
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:31:50pm |
Apparently Crapo did vodka shots before he got behind the wheel.
Wonder who the young thing was who got him all wild and crazy.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:32:19pm |
re: #29 sattv4u2
Nothing an acetylene/oxygen torch can't solve.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:33:49pm |
re: #31 freetoken
Nothing an acetylene/oxygen torch can't solve.
Yup, but your average Tupperware doesn't hold up well to mix molten metal in!!
//
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:36:04pm |
In the spring of 2005, Jim Miller, a Native spiritual leader and Vietnam veteran, found himself in a dream riding on horseback across the great plains of South Dakota. Just before he awoke, he arrived at a riverbank in Minnesota and saw 38 of his Dakota ancestors hanged. At the time, Jim knew nothing of the largest mass execution in United States history, ordered by Abraham Lincoln on December 26, 1862. "When you have dreams, you know when they come from the creator... As any recovered alcoholic, I made believe that I didn't get it. I tried to put it out of my mind, yet it's one of those dreams that bothers you night and day."
Now, four years later, embracing the message of the dream, Jim and a group of riders retrace the 330-mile route of his dream on horseback from Lower Brule, South Dakota to Mankato, Minnesota to arrive at the hanging site on the anniversary of the execution. "We can't blame the wasichus anymore. We're doing it to ourselves. We're selling drugs. We're killing our own people. That's what this ride is about, is healing." This is the story of their journey- the blizzards they endure, the Native and Non-Native communities that house and feed them along the way, and the dark history they are beginning to wipe away.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:37:51pm |
re: #34 Kronocide
Don't ask, just read the reviews.
“ Mine didn't come with instructions, so I'm returning it. ”
I'm surprised he's not suing because it didn't come with a Warning Label that stated;
NOT TO BE USED ON YOUR PERSONAL BANANA!!
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:39:45pm |
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:41:06pm |
re: #36 wrenchwench
Damn you and your Vimeos!
I'll watch at home....
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:43:09pm |
21 year old furnace going out! Getting a new one tomorrow!
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:46:12pm |
re: #37 Gus
[Embedded content]
Thanks! But I think I'll save that for at home too, since it's over an hour long....
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sattv4u2 Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:47:35pm |
re: #38 prairiefire
21 year old furnace going out! Getting a new one tomorrow!
G'luck
We have a two zone system (separate HVAC systems for downstairs where the kitchen, dining, living and family rooms are and upstairs where the bedrooms are)
Replaced both original (20 years old) furnaces and both A/C units 2 summers ago. The difference in efficiencies is AMAZING
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:48:30pm |
re: #39 wrenchwench
Thanks! But I think I'll save that for at home too, since it's over an hour long....
Yep. It's pretty long. It's not exactly a history of the events but more of current events and reconciliation.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:57:10pm |
re: #38 prairiefire
Good luck, and probably a good thing you're doing it now and not after the new year (May 1). There is a new efficiency rule that would make it more difficult to do thru-chimney exhausts except under certain conditions - the newest high efficiency units require direct venting to the exterior (no more chimney venting required because the exhaust gases aren't warm enough to push up and out - that's how they get their efficiency). That could push your replacement costs higher due to possible relocation of components (if say your current furnace doesn't allow for a direct venting).
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:57:10pm |
re: #41 Gus
Yep. It's pretty long. It's not exactly a history of the events but more of current events and reconciliation.
With beautiful horses as a bonus!
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:58:06pm |
re: #40 sattv4u2
Yes, we should get at least 30% better eff. We are getting the 80% eff. model. After March everyone will HAVE to buy a 90% eff.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:58:29pm |
Oh, just saved myself a few bucks by replacing the valve stems on one of the faucets. Not too shabby - only took 2 trips to HD to get the right part (the brand replacement didn't work right, but the generic did, go figure). Once the right part was in hand? 10 minutes.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:59:14pm |
Newcomer 'rosiee' put up a page liked to the excretable Gatestone Institute, where noted hater Fjordman is a 'senior fellow'. I reported the Page, but it was taken down before I could post a comment explaining why it was wrong to post stuff from there. Thank you Charles and Stinky for your prompt action in taking out the trash.
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 26, 2012 4:59:17pm |
re: #42 lawhawk
Yes, extra PVC piping for venting, pain in the neck.
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:00:31pm |
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:02:05pm |
re: #26 freetoken
No, but I'd like to make a large pendant/small sculpture that will be several troy ounces in weight, and given the price of silver (and that I don't like Sterling for various reasons) I thought maybe an Al-Ag alloy might be an answer.
If heft is the goal I'd go with a Tungsten-Nickel alloy. It'll polish up to a similar finish and be cheaper by the ounce, though more difficult to machine.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:02:19pm |
re: #42 lawhawk
Good luck, and probably a good thing you're doing it now and not after the new year (May 1). There is a new efficiency rule that would make it more difficult to do thru-chimney exhausts except under certain conditions - the newest high efficiency units require direct venting to the exterior (no more chimney venting required because the exhaust gases aren't warm enough to push up and out - that's how they get their efficiency). That could push your replacement costs higher due to possible relocation of components (if say your current furnace doesn't allow for a direct venting).
It figures that a socialist like Obama would have regulations go into effect on May Day! #tcot #WAR!
/Dana Loesh
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:02:38pm |
Django was good. Just got back.
I love Tarantino movies!
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:03:29pm |
So, right after we said goodbye to my step-mom, she headed downstairs to check on my stomach virus ill dad, and threw up all over herself before she made it to the bottom of the stairs. My mom and brother were still there to finish the cleaning up. My boy was at home with a 103 fever w/ my hubby.
But we soldiered on and had Christmas, darn it!
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:03:48pm |
WTF? I signed up for Hulu+ and it won't work on my Blu Ray?
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:04:44pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
For the record, the law enacting that particular change in efficiency was signed into law by President Bush in 2007.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:04:52pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:06:07pm |
re: #56 lawhawk
For the record, the law enacting that particular change in efficiency was signed into law by President Bush in 2007.
Cool, but Loesh is still nutty enough and dishonest enough to blame Obama for it.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:06:27pm |
re: #53 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Yes. It really was good. And it mixes entertainment and disturbing subject matter in a weird way that works - and is actually thought provoking. It's gotten people talking about the subject matter.
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:06:47pm |
The girls went to see Le Miz, my treat. Everybody loved it and boo hooed, and my daughter never cries at movies. She loved, loved, loved it.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:09:28pm |
Let's see. 12 light years = 70,540,000,000,000 miles. So if we average 20,000 MPH it would take us 3,527,000,000 hours to get there or 402,395 years. That's not gonna work. //
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Kronocide Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:12:38pm |
re: #62 Gus
Let's see. 12 light years = 70,540,000,000,000 miles. So if we average 20,000 MPH it would take us 3,527,000,000 hours to get there or 402,395 years. That's not gonna work. //
Dude. Have some Faith.
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:13:27pm |
re: #59 lawhawk
Yes. It really was good. And it mixes entertainment and disturbing subject matter in a weird way that works - and is actually thought provoking. It's gotten people talking about the subject matter.
re: #60 prairiefire
The girls went to see Le Miz, my treat. Everybody loved it and boo hooed, and my daughter never cries at movies. She loved, loved, loved it.
I'm so movie challenged. Totally considered both Django and Les Mis, but chickened/lazied out.
Ended up watching Ted with Mark Wahlberg and a little 420. Quite enjoyable!
Thanks for the reviews, I believe I will venture out!
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:13:55pm |
re: #50 Gus
Space heater is a lie!
I'm sitting over one as I type.
We have one of these with the red bulb (scroll down) under the desk where the 'puter is. I think it might be better than a space heater if it's not too drafty there, and certainly more efficient.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:14:55pm |
re: #67 wrenchwench
We have one of these with the red bulb (scroll down) under the desk where the 'puter is. I think it might be better than a space heater if it's not too drafty there, and certainly more efficient.
Thanks. For now I'll alternate between space heater and rage.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:15:17pm |
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
Update. Rosiee took the problematic Page down herself. I thank her for doing that.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:15:19pm |
Those crazy Syrian improvised weapons
Syria - Massey Ferguson 57mm Autocannon Technical
I thought the straw was for camouflage or something but it looks like they just didn't bother to take it off the tractor.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:17:01pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:17:53pm |
re: #68 Gus
Thanks. For now I'll alternate between space heater and rage.
I think either can be addictive....
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:21:05pm |
I have an iTunes gift certificate and I'm thinking of spending it on the HD version of The Dark Knight Rises, which I never saw. Worth it?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:22:40pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
Those crazy Syrian improvised weapons
Syria - Massey Ferguson 57mm Autocannon Technical[Embedded content]
I thought the straw was for camouflage or something but it looks like they just didn't bother to take it off the tractor.
Accuracy is going to be crap, given how that gun wobbles heavily after each shot.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:23:19pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:25:00pm |
re: #75 Stanghazi
haha Dark. That's code. Lookie it up.
The only code I've ever heard 420 used for refers to a product whose plant of origin is related to a plant that was once used to make rope. Is that what you're talking about?
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:25:46pm |
re: #79 Dark_Falcon
The only code I've ever heard 420 used for refers to a product whose plant of origin is related to a plant that was once used to make rope. Is that what you're talking about?
Ya that stuff Geo. Washington grew. For rope.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:26:13pm |
My favorite Christmas gift: Metrokane Vertical Rabbit Lever Style Corkscrew. This thing is incredibly awesome. Opens a bottle of wine in about two seconds with almost no effort.
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:32:00pm |
re: #81 Charles Johnson
My favorite Christmas gift: Metrokane Vertical Rabbit Lever Style Corkscrew. This thing is incredibly awesome. Opens a bottle of wine in about two seconds with almost no effort.
Does it work on those screw top bottles? And what about boxes?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:32:08pm |
re: #77 Dark_Falcon
Accuracy is going to be crap, given how that gun wobbles heavily after each shot.
I think they're just happy it doesn't flip over. Hitting anything would be a bonus.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:34:21pm |
re: #81 Charles Johnson
My favorite Christmas gift: Metrokane Vertical Rabbit Lever Style Corkscrew. This thing is incredibly awesome. Opens a bottle of wine in about two seconds with almost no effort.
Added to my wish list for Passover!
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:34:30pm |
Later, lizards.
Stanley, I hope it opens for you. Those Cheezburger folks don't have their images as .jpgs any more. They've gotten crafty.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:36:08pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:38:05pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:45:45pm |
Ross Douthat has weighed in on the cultural fallout from the Newtown shootings. He goes after Michael Bloomburg, as you'd expect, but then goes on to smack Wayne LaPierre even harder:
The leading gun control chorister was Michael Bloomberg, and this was fitting, because on a range of issues New York’s mayor has become the de facto spokesman for the self-consciously centrist liberalism of the Acela Corridor elite. Like so many members of that class, Bloomberg combines immense talent with immense provincialism: his view of American politics is basically the famous New Yorker cover showing Manhattan’s West Side overshadowing the world, and his bedrock assumption is that the liberal paternalism with which New York is governed can and should be a model for the nation as a whole.
It’s an assumption that cries out to be challenged by a thoughtful center-right. If you look at the specific proposals being offered by Bloomberg and others, some just look like reruns of assault weapon regulations that had no obvious effect the last time they were tried. Others still might have an impact on gun violence, but only at a cost: the popular idea of cracking down hard on illegal handguns, for instance, would probably involve “stop and frisk” on a huge scale, and might throw more young men in prison at a time when our incarceration rates are already too high.
But instead of a kind of skepticism and sifting from conservatives, after a week of liberal self-righteousness the spotlight passed instead to ... Wayne LaPierre. And no Stephen Colbert parody of conservatism could match the National Rifle Association spokesman’s performance on Friday morning.
It wasn’t so much that LaPierre’s performance made no concession whatsoever on gun restrictions or gun safety — that was to be expected. It was that he launched into a rambling diatribe against an absurdly wide array of targets, blaming everything from media sensationalism to “gun-free schools” signs to ’90s-vintage nihilism like “Natural Born Killers” for the Newtown tragedy. Then he proposed, as an alternative to the liberal heavy-handedness of gun control, something equally heavy-handed — a cop in every school, to be paid for by that right-wing old reliable, cuts to foreign aid.
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Interesting Times Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:49:20pm |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
Ross Douthat has weighed in on the cultural fallout from the Newtown shootings. He goes after Michael Bloomburg, as you'd expect, but then goes on to smack Wayne LaPierre even harder:
Meh. Too much MBF, as usual. There is no, and I repeat NO, equivalence on the so-called "left" to the spittle-spewing insanity spouted by LaPierre.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:50:36pm |
re: #92 Interesting Times
Meh. Too much MBF, as usual. There is no, and I repeat NO, equivalence on the so-called "left" to the spittle-spewing insanity spouted by LaPierre.
Even if you think that, this is refreshing to read:
The right-wing view is embittered, paranoid and confused. It opposes anything the establishment supports but doesn’t know what it wants to do instead. (Defund government or protect Medicare? Break up the banks or deregulate them? Send more troops to Libya or don’t get involved? Protect our liberties or put our schools on lockdown?) Sometimes the right’s “just say no” approach holds the establishment at bay — as on climate change and immigration, to date. But sometimes, as the House Republicans are demonstrating in the budget showdown, it makes the eventual defeat that much more sweeping.
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:52:05pm |
re: #92 Interesting Times
Meh. Too much MBF, as usual. There is no, and I repeat NO, equivalence on the so-called "left" to the spittle-spewing insanity spouted by LaPierre.
The whole CYA dance that the NRA and it's lackeys (Douthat) are doing is contemptible. I do believe most people see it.
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Interesting Times Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:52:48pm |
re: #93 Dark_Falcon
Even if you think that, this is refreshing to read:
...
"Sometimes the right’s “just say no” approach holds the establishment at bay — as on climate change and immigration, to date."
Huh? I don't even understand what point Douthat's trying to make there. Is he saying the right's climate-change denial and immigrant-hate is a good thing? o_O
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:54:28pm |
re: #96 Interesting Times
Huh? I don't even understand what point Douthat's trying to make there. Is he saying the right's climate-change denial and immigrant-hate is a good thing? o_O
Yep, that's what he's saying.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:58:31pm |
Ross Douthat is trying to be the good cop to Wayne LaPierre's bad cop. The whole right wing universe is currently triangulating, trying to find the right talking points to make people forget the horror of Newtown.
That's the purpose of the David Gregory fake outrage, too.
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:58:56pm |
Watching the Keystone Cops routine in Congress would be amusing, if the situation weren't so desperate. At this point, it seems that our legislative branch has effectively ceased to function. The Tea Party got its wish, it has ended compromise by simply assuring that no bills will ever leave the House.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 5:59:49pm |
re: #96 Interesting Times
Huh? I don't even understand what point Douthat's trying to make there. Is he saying the right's climate-change denial and immigrant-hate is a good thing? o_O
What he is saying is that the right has prevented the action the establishment left wants in these areas. I don't think Douthat thinks hate is good, but he doesn't want an amnesty without the southern border being locked down.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:01:13pm |
re: #99 Charles Johnson
Ross Douthat is trying to be the good cop to Wayne LaPierre's bad cop. The whole right wing universe is currently triangulating, trying to find the right talking points to make people forget the horror of Newtown.
That's the purpose of the David Gregory fake outrage, too.
You are in error, Charles. Douthat knows much of the right is behaving stupidly, but like me he does not know how to make them stop.
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:03:45pm |
re: #99 Charles Johnson
Ross Douthat is trying to be the good cop to Wayne LaPierre's bad cop. The whole right wing universe is currently triangulating, trying to find the right talking points to make people forget the horror of Newtown.
That's the purpose of the David Gregory fake outrage, too.
It seems that nobody is biting on "mental illness," so now the argument has turned to "A ban won't work!"
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:04:38pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
Ross Douthat makes a good living by being a beard for the far right -- the ostensibly moderate Republican who actually supports every right wing issue, no matter how extreme, but talks a great line and hides it very well.
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:05:31pm |
re: #104 Charles Johnson
Ross Douthat makes a good living by being a beard for the far right -- the ostensibly moderate Republican who actually supports every right wing issue, no matter how extreme, but talks a great line and hides it very well.
So, basically the same line of work Frum's in?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:06:27pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:07:42pm |
re: #104 Charles Johnson
Ross Douthat makes a good living by being a beard for the far right -- the ostensibly moderate Republican who actually supports every right wing issue, no matter how extreme, but talks a great line and hides it very well.
I actually would say Douthat isn't a moderate, he's just smart enough to realize that ultimately simply screaming "No!" and stamping your feet doesn't work. Government does have things it needs to do and the current paralysis isn't good for the nation.
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Interesting Times Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:10:43pm |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
What he is saying is that the right has prevented the action the establishment left wants in these areas. I don't think Douthat thinks hate is good, but he doesn't want an amnesty without the southern border being locked down.
If that partisan hackwit is defending lack of action on climate change, he can to take a long walk off a short pier, preferably in an area affected by rising sea levels.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:11:19pm |
re: #101 Dark_Falcon
What he is saying is that the right has prevented the action the establishment left wants in these areas. I don't think Douthat thinks hate is good, but he doesn't want an amnesty without the southern border being locked down.
Look at the last election results regarding Hispanic turnout, and tell me that holding the establishment at bay hasn't already led to sweeping defeat. In an effort to stave off whites becoming a demographic minority the GOP's immigration policy has already led to disastrous political consequences. The same thing will happen as climate change becomes more and more self evident.
Failure to accept and deal with reality is always self defeating in the long term.
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Interesting Times Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:13:22pm |
re: #109 goddamnedfrank
Failure to accept and deal with reality is always self defeating in the long term.
Durr hurr, we'll be dead by then, so who cares! Let's just do as much damage as we can in the meantime. Derp.
/GOP
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:14:02pm |
I'm thinking of using that iTunes gift certificate on Resident Evil: Retribution because Milla Jovovich.
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BongCrodny Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:14:30pm |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
Ross Douthat has weighed in on the cultural fallout from the Newtown shootings. He goes after Michael Bloomburg, as you'd expect, but then goes on to smack Wayne LaPierre even harder:
In the first two paragraphs of that op-ed piece, here's how he describes the "left":
"Self-righteous certainties"
"Chorister"
"Self-consciously centrist liberalism of the Acela Corridor elite" (my favorite!)
"Provincialism"
"Liberal paternalism"
However, folks on his side -- and I'd bet dollars to donuts this is self-descriptive -- are the "thoughtful center-right."
Riiiiiiiiight.
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:14:52pm |
re: #107 Dark_Falcon
I actually would say Douthat isn't a moderate, he's just smart enough to realize that ultimately simply screaming "No!" and stamping your feet doesn't work. Government does have things it needs to do and the current paralysis isn't good for the nation.
Part of things being done is accepting that ideology sometimes have to give way to practicality. Douthat's not arguing for that, if anything, he's arguing that inaction is preferable if it means avoiding actions that would go against one's ideology.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:16:21pm |
re: #112 BongCrodny
Bad HTML tag - fixed it for you. Reload to see the comment.
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BongCrodny Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:16:27pm |
NOOOOOO!
Not the three dots! NOT THE THREE DOTS!!!
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:19:44pm |
re: #111 Charles Johnson
I'm thinking of using that iTunes gift certificate on Resident Evil: Retribution because Milla Jovovich.
Milla Jovovich would have been so much better as Black Widow than Scarlett Johanssen.
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:20:47pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
You are in error, Charles. Douthat knows much of the right is behaving stupidly, but like me he does not know how to make them stop.
maybe you could make a start by telling them how much they are being lied to about "what liberals believe"
for example, just by chance i happen to have just been reading an "article" in pj media that states:
The members of the progressive-Left were demanding standards of Judeo-Christian morality be replaced with new (arbitrary) standards handed down from central councils and planning committees.
[Link: pjmedia.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:21:12pm |
re: #113 Targetpractice
He's making clear that you have to be for something and not just be saying 'no' all the time. That doesn't mean he wants thing to move in what he considers the wrong direction. But it does mean that he understands that that is what will end up happening if those who are right-of-center do not get their heads in the game and articulate what they think is the way forward. Tone deaf BS like what LaPierre served up isn't going to cut it.
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BongCrodny Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:21:44pm |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
Ross Douthat has weighed in on the cultural fallout from the Newtown shootings. He goes after Michael Bloomburg, as you'd expect, but then goes on to smack Wayne LaPierre even harder:
Here's how Douthat describes the "New York elite" in the first two paragraphs of his op-ed piece:
"Self-righteous certainties"
"Chorister"
"Self-consciously centrist liberalism of the Acela Corridor elite" (my favorite!)
"Provincialism"
"Liberal paternalism"
Then in the very next paragraph *his* guys get described as "thoughtful center-right."
Why the hell should I bother reading anything after that?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:22:24pm |
re: #116 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Milla Jovovich would have been so much better as Black Widow than Scarlett Johanssen.
I disagree. Johanssen is the better actress IMO.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:25:30pm |
re: #115 BongCrodny
NOOOOOO!
Not the three dots! NOT THE THREE DOTS!!!
I was influenced to use 3 dots when I post because of growing up reading Herb Caen in the SF Chron every day.
RIP Herb
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:26:00pm |
re: #116 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
I can see Milla as Black Widow, but ScarJo did quite well for herself.
I'm sure there are a few Avengers that Milla could work on...or out...
Wasp or Scarlet Witch. I'm going with the latter.
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:27:10pm |
re: #121 Dark_Falcon
I disagree. Johanssen is the better actress IMO.
She was awesome in ' Lost in Translation '
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:27:14pm |
re: #103 Targetpractice
It seems that nobody is biting on "mental illness," so now the argument has turned to "A ban won't work!"
i liked it when they were trying out "laws won't help because criminals don't obey laws"
they should put it in the platform
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:28:05pm |
re: #120 BongCrodny
What Douthat says is "It’s an assumption that cries out to be challenged by a thoughtful center-right." He uses the rest of the paragraph to describe what he thinks is wrong with the approaches of those he sees as Michael Bloomberg's circle. But the critical point is his use of 'a' instead of 'the' prior to the phrase "thoughtful center-right". He believes that such a center-right is needed, but he uses the next paragraph to start making his case that it is not operational at this time. He knows that refusniks like Wayne LaPierre are the voice of the right currently, and he understands that to be a very bad thing.
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:28:15pm |
re: #119 Dark_Falcon
He's making clear that you have to be for something and not just be saying 'no' all the time. That doesn't mean he wants thing to move in what he considers the wrong direction. But it does mean that he understands that that is what will end up happening if those who are right-of-center do not get their heads in the game and articulate what they think is the way forward. Tone deaf BS like what LaPierre served up isn't going to cut it.
Perhaps if he and others of the "right-of-center" persuasion had made such things clear back in '10, we wouldn't find ourselves in the present situation. You can't elect a pack of ideologues under the assumption that they can be controlled once in office. You would think they'd have learned that lesson with Crazy Uncle Liberty.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:29:33pm |
re: #120 BongCrodny
Then in the very next paragraph *his* guys get described as "thoughtful center-right."
Does he have anyone particular in mind?
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SidewaysQuark Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:30:11pm |
re: #118 engineer cat
maybe you could make a start by telling them how much they are being lied to about "what liberals believe"
I, for one, have been quite gobsmacked to find out what I "believe" from those who have smacked the liberal label on me.
If liberals actually were what these freaks pretended liberals were, every liberal I've known would instantly disavow it. I sure as hell know that if 10% of what conservatives actually said about Obama was remotely true, I'd not have voted for him. Glad I've learned better.
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BongCrodny Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:30:19pm |
re: #123 lawhawk
I can see Milla as Black Widow, but ScarJo did quite well for herself.
I'm sure there are a few Avengers that Milla could work on...or out...
Wasp or Scarlet Witch. I'm going with the latter.
Casting games are fun.
I also think Milla would have made an excellent Black Widow -- but I think that the producers could have got a lot of mileage out of "Scarlett as Scarlet."
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:31:04pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
You are in error, Charles. Douthat knows much of the right is behaving stupidly, but like me he does not know how to make them stop.
so, dark - don't you talk to conservative friends of yours who tell you that we "leftists" are against freedom, want government to run everybody's lives, admire castro and stalin, hate success, and want to punish successful people by taking their money away and giving it to bad lazy people?
what do you tell them?
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:31:29pm |
Perhaps the reason the "thoughtful center-right" isn't in operation is because they skipped town? And the ones who didn't were launched out, boot firmly in ass, by the Tea Party on the declaration that "compromise" is a four-letter word?
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William of Orange Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:31:49pm |
Though this one is a lot more innocent than an R/D mixup.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:35:42pm |
re: #121 Dark_Falcon
I disagree. Johanssen is the better actress IMO.
Hello! It's The Avengers. It's a comic book, it ain't freakin' Shakespeare.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:36:50pm |
Did anybody see "Jack Reacher"? Is shrimpy little Tom Cruise believable as a 6'5" 250-lb bad ass?
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:38:01pm |
re: #135 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
One of my co-workers was complaining about that at lunch.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:38:07pm |
re: #134 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Hello! It's The Avengers. It's a comic book, it ain't freakin' Shakespeare.
An better actor/actress is still a good thing to have. A poor quality one can drag down even a popcorn movie.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:38:25pm |
re: #103 Targetpractice
It seems that nobody is biting on "mental illness," so now the argument has turned to "A ban won't work!"
Funny how the wingnuts won't accept that argument if it is applied to abortion.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:40:28pm |
re: #138 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Funny how the wingnuts won't accept that argument if it is applied to abortion.
Or marijuana.
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TedStriker Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:42:12pm |
re: #118 engineer cat
maybe you could make a start by telling them how much they are being lied to about "what liberals believe"
for example, just by chance i happen to have just been reading an "article" in pj media that states:
The members of the progressive-Left were demanding standards of Judeo-Christian morality be replaced with new (arbitrary) standards handed down from central councils and planning committees.
[Link: pjmedia.com...]
Commies!
/better dead than red
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:43:02pm |
re: #127 Targetpractice
Perhaps if he and others of the "right-of-center" persuasion had made such things clear back in '10, we wouldn't find ourselves in the present situation. You can't elect a pack of ideologues under the assumption that they can be controlled once in office. You would think they'd have learned that lesson with Crazy Uncle Liberty.
For Ross Douthat, as with a number of conservatives (including me) the 2012 election was a clearing of vision. We had to realize our side has a very serious problem and won't be able to to win the chance to govern or even be able to govern nationally till the problem is put on the path to correction.
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Targetpractice Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:44:38pm |
re: #141 Dark_Falcon
For Ross Douthat, as with a number of conservatives (including me) the 2012 election was a clearing of vision. We had to realize our side has a very serious problem and won't be able to to win the chance to govern or even be able to govern nationally till the problem is put on the path to correction.
So, how many of ya'll will be breaking ties with the GOP? Refusing to vote for them? Perhaps even checking out conservative Dems in the same districts/states?
And how many will continue to pull the "R" lever while continuing to make excuses?
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Kragar Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:45:02pm |
How every woman uses her private parts or how grown consenting adults choose to live their lives is apparently totally up for regulation, but managing ownership of a firearm is not.
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:45:13pm |
GHWB moved to icu.
What a suck to be in the hospital for Christmas.
Hope he's very comfortable. What else can you hope for? People get old. Sick.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:50:20pm |
re: #144 Stanghazi
His family tried to smuggle some curative Chinese food in to him, but the doctor wouldn't let him have it.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:52:14pm |
re: #145 jaunte
His family tried to smuggle some curative Chinese food in to him, but the doctor wouldn't let him have it.
He's on a liquid diet right now.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:53:31pm |
re: #145 jaunte
His family tried to smuggle some curative Chinese food in to him, but the doctor wouldn't let him have it.
Because of GHWB, my sons refused to eat broccoli.
They didn't even fall for the trick "Look! Cute delicious little trees!"
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Stanghazi Wed, Dec 26, 2012 6:58:22pm |
And Mandela at 94 is released from hospital after gall bladder surgery.
I think I will choose 90 (if I'm lucky) to be my cut off for any surgery. Really?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:04:59pm |
re: #148 Stanghazi
And Mandela at 94 is released from hospital after gall bladder surgery.
I think I will choose 90 (if I'm lucky) to be my cut off for any surgery. Really?
Despite some dementia, Mandela can still have good quality of life post surgery. And if that's the case, better to do it. It's not just age, it's more 'What's the procedure?' and 'How much good will it do?'. Each person and every family must make that choice themselves.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:07:07pm |
re: #141 Dark_Falcon
For Ross Douthat, as with a number of conservatives (including me) the 2012 election was a clearing of vision. We had to realize our side has a very serious problem and won't be able to to win the chance to govern or even be able to govern nationally till the problem is put on the path to correction.
You've got to stop condoning bigotry, voting for and supporting bigots. So far I don't see you realizing that, at all.
Mr Takei can go beam himself up. He seems to think that anyone who finds homosexuality morally wrong can't rule on matters relating to it as a judge. It's an attempt to ensure that only judges who favor his side will hear cases relating to homosexuality.
Republicans, especially social conservatives, need to realize that enforcing religious morality in law is, in many cases not only highly unethical but fundamentally antithetical to any modern understanding of basic civil rights.
Your party is stuck in the past, and it's not going to drag itself into the present. If individual members refuse to evolve and stop tolerating the hatred within their midst then the party will remain stuck, becoming more and more a political anachronism.
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:16:47pm |
Congress Solves Fiscal Cliff, Continues Status Quo For One More Year
promises to commit mass suicide naked and wearing pink lipstick in red square using blunt wooden swords on 1 jan 2014 if compromise not reached by then
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:18:07pm |
re: #151 engineer cat
Congress Solves Fiscal Cliff, Continues Status Quo For One More Year
promises to commit mass suicide naked and wearing pink lipstick in red square using blunt wooden swords on 1 jan 2014 if compromise not reached by then
Vladimir Putin frowns on naked protests, so you'd need someplace other than Red Square. :D
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:20:10pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
What Douthat says is "It’s an assumption that cries out to be challenged by a thoughtful center-right." He uses the rest of the paragraph to describe what he thinks is wrong with the approaches of those he sees as Michael Bloomberg's circle. But the critical point is his use of 'a' instead of 'the' prior to the phrase "thoughtful center-right". He believes that such a center-right is needed, but he uses the next paragraph to start making his case that it is not operational at this time. He knows that refusniks like Wayne LaPierre are the voice of the right currently, and he understands that to be a very bad thing.
Thoughtful center right exists. Our President is that (and is the best republican president since Ike) & much of the Democratic Party is too. The GOP is just that far out in Wingnuttia.
What we really need is a center left because there is no real political left, as the world understands that, in America today.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:21:12pm |
re: #153 William Barnett-Lewis
Thoughtful center right exists. Our President is that (and is the best republican president since Ike) & much of the Democratic Party is too. The GOP is just that far out in Wingnuttia.
What we really need is a center left because there is no real political left, as the world understands that, in America today.
Barack Obama is a man of the left. He's not 'center-right' and to say he is is silly.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:28:27pm |
re: #153 William Barnett-Lewis
Thoughtful center right exists. Our President is that (and is the best republican president since Ike) & much of the Democratic Party is too. The GOP is just that far out in Wingnuttia.
What we really need is a center left because there is no real political left, as the world understands that, in America today.
I've been hesitant to jump in on this one but I think yours is the first thoughtful comment on the issue. There's been much bitching at sites like Dkos lately about how Obama and the Dems have sold out their progressive supporters, I guess this happens after elections in second terms. The fringes on both sides (yes, MBF - blah blah blah) feed on emotional gratification, outrageous outrages, temper tantrums and counterproductive bullying and are baffled why the politicians they support aren't engaging in the same self destructive behaviour. What both sides need is pragmatic leadership from the top down which means real leaders explaining hard truths to their respective bases. Of course this is unlikely, it's just easier to pander to the unwashed masses and throw them under the bus when convenient.
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:28:31pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
Barack Obama is a man of the left. He's not 'center-right' and to say he is is silly.
move him over the u.s. border in any direction and he instantly becomes a center-right politician
i can't really think of any policies of his that could be described as "leftist" - for example, obamacare mandates no non private medical insurance or care. if he is a leftist, then bismark and churchill were leftists
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:32:35pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
Barack Obama is a man of the left. He's not 'center-right' and to say he is is silly.
Don't dismiss the idea so easily. From a progressive point of view he is very much "center right". He hasn't freed all those poor oppressed innocent souls in GITMO, he continues drone strikes, wars in foreign lands, indefinite detention, pragmatic economic policies like not rounding up bankers and capitalists for crimes against humanity, close ties to Israel, etc. It's all based in pragmatism but from a progressive viewpoint he's a moderate conservative.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:33:47pm |
re: #156 engineer cat
move him over the u.s. border in any direction and he instantly becomes a center-right politician
i can't really think of any policies of his that could be described as "leftist" - for example, obamacare mandates no non private medical insurance or care. if he is a leftist, then bismark and churchill were leftists
It was also hailed as the conservative solution to the healthcare crisis. Good example.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:36:08pm |
OMG!
Image: 772.png
"I like Obama because he's a wingnut"
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:36:23pm |
Moderate Republicans have been losing their seats.
Of 216 House Republicans who ran for reelection, only 14 were defeated, a mortality rate of just over 6%.
Members of the tea party caucus did even better than that; only about 5% were defeated. (The losers included Allen West of Florida and Joe Walsh of Illinois, two especially fiery members whose constituents ran out of patience.)
Which Republicans lost their seats? Moderates and moderate conservatives, disproportionately.
Among the incumbents who ran for reelection, 48 were members of a group called the Republican Main Street Partnership, nonradical conservatives who sometimes call themselves "center right." Seven of those 48 lost their seats — a mortality rate of 15%, more than twice as high as Republicans in general.
When you add retirements and other departures, more than a dozen moderate conservatives won't be coming back next year.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:37:59pm |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
Don't dismiss the idea so easily. From a progressive point of view he is very much "center right". He hasn't freed all those poor oppressed innocent souls in GITMO, he continues drone strikes, wars in foreign lands, indefinite detention, pragmatic economic policies like not rounding up bankers and capitalists for crimes against humanity, close ties to Israel, etc. It's all based in pragmatism but from a progressive viewpoint he's a moderate conservative.
But I don't normally see things through a progressive point of view, my natural viewpoint being conservative.
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:42:54pm |
re: #161 Dark_Falcon
But I don't normally see things through a progressive point of view, my natural viewpoint being conservative.
i wonder what would happen if the words 'conservative', 'liberal', 'fascist', 'progressive', 'moderate', & etc didn't exist and we all had to describe our political positions in terms of actual policy detail
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:44:03pm |
re: #162 engineer cat
i wonder what would happen if the words 'conservative', 'liberal', 'fascist', 'progressive', 'moderate', & etc didn't exist and we all had to describe our political positions in terms of actual policy detail
There'd be a lot fewer dumb people in politics, that's for sure.
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Usually refered to as anyways Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:46:27pm |
re: #162 engineer cat
i wonder what would happen if the words 'conservative', 'liberal', 'fascist', 'progressive', 'moderate', & etc didn't exist and we all had to describe our political positions in terms of actual policy detail
B b b but what would we do with all the little boxes we put people in?
Don't you care about the box makers?
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Interesting Times Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:46:46pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
So go on and describe "conservatism" in policy detail, and sell us on what's good about it.
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Kronocide Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:47:43pm |
Somebody said Milla Jovovich and I lost my train of thought.
What about the Stylish and Sexy Queen of Zombie Massacre?
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:47:47pm |
re: #160 jaunte
It's the purification of the GOP underway.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:47:55pm |
One of the "members of a group called the Republican Main Street Partnership, nonradical conservatives who sometimes call themselves "center right":
Bill Johnson, U.S. House - District 6, Ohio.
From the "Special Interest Group Ratings" at Vote Smart:
2011 American Conservative Union - Lifetime Score 92%
2011 American Conservative Union - Positions 92%
2011 Concerned Women for America - Positions 96%
2011 Eagle Forum - Positions 53%
2011 Heritage Action for America - Positions (House Only) 86%
2011 National Journal - Conservative Composite Score 85%
2011 National Journal - Conservative on Foreign Policy Score 86%
2011 National Journal - Liberal on Foreign Policy Score 9%
2011 National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy 17%
2011 National Journal - Liberal Composite Score 16%
2011 National Journal - Conservative on Social Policy Score 83%
2011 National Journal - Conservative on Economic Policy Score 90%
2011 National Journal - Liberal on Economic Policy Score 10%
2011 The Club for Growth - Positions 70
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 70%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 80%
2011 The New American - Positions on Conservative Issues 70%
[Link: votesmart.org...]
And this guy is considered a moderate.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:49:30pm |
I've been re-viewing various episodes of Stargate TV series, and one factoid stands out about the universe - English is spoken on most planets.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:50:49pm |
re: #160 jaunte
Moderate Republicans have been losing their seats.
No way. When did this start happening?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:51:06pm |
re: #162 engineer cat
i wonder what would happen if the words 'conservative', 'liberal', 'fascist', 'progressive', 'moderate', & etc didn't exist and we all had to describe our political positions in terms of actual policy detail
Most people adopt those terms to avoid critical thought. People on their own as individuals are much more interesting and nuanced but issues are complicated. Most of us have only a very basic understanding of economics or science. Social issues and demographics trends are complicated and solutions are often unpleasant realities. People adopt political labels to avoid thinking or learning, The labels come with a whole host of prepackaged solutions already made for us. Individuality is not required and is generally frowned upon.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:51:44pm |
re: #169 freetoken
I've been re-viewing various episodes of Stargate TV series, and one factoid stands out about the universe - English is spoken on most planets.
Lucky for them.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:53:09pm |
Cathy McMorris Rodgers (eastern Washington) got the same ratings as Johnson from the John Birch Society:
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 80%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 70%[Link: votesmart.org...]
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BongCrodny Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:54:03pm |
re: #168 jaunte
2011 Concerned Women for America - Positions 96%
This also raises the "how is this considered 'moderate'?" question.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 7:57:36pm |
Ok, another "moderate" chosen at random: Mike Simpson:
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 80%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 70%
[Link: votesmart.org...]
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jaunte Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:02:29pm |
Fred Upton, also of the moderate Republican Main Street Partnership:
2011 Concerned Women for America - Positions 96%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Summer-Fall) 80%
2011 The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 90%
[Link: votesmart.org...]
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:05:37pm |
The term I use most of the time, in describing much of the GOP and the Tea Partying crowd is "reactionary right".
The term "reactionary" itself can be ambiguous out of context. We all "react" to the stimuli in our environment - all living things do.
However, in the context of politics, especially in a nation with political parties, campaigns, elections, and entrenched institutions, "reactionary right" I use to describe the essential views of those who are rejecting recent changes in their society, which they see as an affront to them, and as a group devise goals to return to an earlier era.
"Revanchist" is accurate too, but it implies "taking back", which indeed holds true of much of the Tea Partying crowd.
The policy centers of the GOP are strongly tilted towards idolizing previous eras, of returning somehow to an older order of things.
While the Democratic party is pretty much controlled by entropy, it does have pocket of thinkers who are more actively engaged in finding ideas for our own times and for the near and far futures that are not just business as usual. But, as the link I posted earlier about new San Diego mayor Bob Filner illuminated, there is plenty of blame to go around, for our national political ineptness.
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Interesting Times Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:10:07pm |
re: #178 freetoken
But, as the link I posted earlier about new San Diego mayor Bob Filner illuminated, there is plenty of blame to go around, for our national political ineptness.
Yes. The GOP is bat-guano-loco, and the Democrats aren't doing enough to stop them (or at the very least make GOP insanity more obvious to voters)
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:10:14pm |
I see Clarice Feldman of American Thinker got a blog award. When I first started blogging I ran into her on the net. I haven't talked to her in years.
She showed great kindness to me and I will always like her even if we on opposite sides of the political fence. She is a good person.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:14:57pm |
re: #180 Interesting Times
Yes. The GOP is bat-guano-loco, and the Democrats aren't doing enough to stop them (or at the very least make GOP insanity more obvious to voters)
To me the Democratic Party is a good example of the power of entropy.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:24:08pm |
Buble is supposed to be one of the top selling artists worldwide, but I'm not a fan. Nevertheless, there have to be fans:
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:25:30pm |
Hmmm... that was supposed to be whole thing. Don't know what happened. It also jumped me out of the Spy window into the regular window, in Safari.
Weird.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:30:01pm |
I wonder how many times that song has been recorded...
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bratwurst Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:31:17pm |
re: #183 freetoken
Buble is supposed to be one of the top selling artists worldwide, but I'm not a fan. Nevertheless, there have to be fans:
[Embedded content]
When I began my second stint residing in Germany nearly 10 years ago, people there were SHOCKED and dismayed that I didn't know or care about the great Bublé. Then I would mention my favorite German recording artists from the 70s (Can/Kraftwerk/Neu/Klaus Schulze) only to be met by blank looks, or something along the lines of "ja, ve have not heard zis in a long time".
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:36:53pm |
Ok, while I'm at it, here is an Oscar Peterson rendition of a standard song:
Some people have a problem playing mp3s from that server - I know not why.
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:41:15pm |
re: #185 freetoken
Ok. let's try this link:
[Embedded content]
that's interesting
glad to know that in some places at least, it's still 1956
/i'm mean!
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:43:44pm |
Evening lizards!
I just saw this. Say a prayer for him y'all.
Get well soon George!
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bratwurst Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:48:22pm |
re: #189 dragonath
Nobody in my part of Germany (Rhein-Ruhr) knows Heino and they REALLY don't understand why Americans are always asking them about Hasselhoff. Baywatch and (especially) Knight Rider were big hits over there, and it is a bit of a European custom for TV stars to dabble in pop music as well...UK chart history is FULL of horrible examples of this.
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dragonath Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:52:17pm |
re: #176 jaunte
Just for the fun of it, here's a guy who gets a 100% from the John Birch Society:
The Club for Growth - Positions 100%
Heritage Action for America - Positions (House Only) 100%
The John Birch Society - Positions (Spring-Summer) 100%
American Conservative Union - Lifetime Score 100%
The Club for Growth - Positions 100%
Family Research Council - Positions 100%
American Family Association - Positions 94%
...
Gun Owners of America - Key Votes Alignment on Gun Rights - Federal Vote Scorecard - 112th Congress, First Session 100%
What a coincidence!
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b_sharp Wed, Dec 26, 2012 8:56:35pm |
re: #29 sattv4u2
Ahh
Well, sorry, but my oven doesn't go up to 1200-1500 degrees!!!!
My wife has a kiln that does.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:01:33pm |
Didn't mean to dump and run with that semi-provocative comment earlier, though I stand by it. Had to help get the boy to bed and then got side tracked by my late Christmas present that arrived in today's mail.
A Mentor 13cm x 18 cm (5"x7") large format view camera with a 210/4.5 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar normal lens and a 300/4.5 long focus CZJ Tessar lens. Strange huge camera from the DDR of yore but the price was right - Free - and it'll really expand my large format abilities from the small 4x5 Speed Graphic I've been using. My biggest problem is going to be that I don't have any way to scan that huge negative.
But even a journeyman photographer like me is going to get some good results out of that much glass and emulsion. When I get the money for some contact paper, I'll be set :)
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b_sharp Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:01:57pm |
re: #198 Gus
Sup.
Just finished Christmas supper a couple of hours ago, talked to my brother for a bit, played with my little grandson for a bit longer and watched my big grandson light up when he opened his Christmas gift - a new laptop.
It was a good day.
How are you doing?
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dragonath Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:04:41pm |
re: #199 William Barnett-Lewis
Never understood the reputation a lot of East German cameras get- the Prakticas and stuff I've come across are pretty nice.
Russian stuff is a different story.
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:06:05pm |
re: #200 b_sharp
Just finished Christmas supper a couple of hours ago, talked to my brother for a bit, played with my little grandson for a bit longer and watched my big grandson light up when he opened his Christmas gift - a new laptop.
It was a good day.
How are you doing?
Getting by. Kind of warmed up. Talked to my mom and dad yesterday. I worry about my mom. I was still cold so I had to make a fast call -- I was grumpy.
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b_sharp Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:08:07pm |
re: #202 Gus
Getting by. Kind of warmed up. Talked to my mom and dad yesterday. I worry about my mom. I was still cold so I had to make a fast cold -- I was grumpy.
Yah, your situation is pretty crappy. Do you have any friends there you can room with for a few days?
Your mom not doing well?
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Gus Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:10:47pm |
re: #204 b_sharp
Yah, your situation is pretty crappy. Do you have any friends there you can room with for a few days?
Your mom not doing well?
I'd have to DM. Can't really share anymore thanks to the stalkers.
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b_sharp Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:13:54pm |
I did a little investigation into the UK homicide rates and compared them to the NRA's buddy John Lott's claims during his argument with Piers Morgan. He cherry picked his data.
Why am I not surprised?
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b_sharp Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:15:12pm |
re: #206 Gus
I'd have to DM. Can't really share anymore thanks to the stalkers.
Just loaded up Twitter, so if you want, DM me.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:15:14pm |
re: #201 dragonath
Never understood the reputation a lot of East German cameras get- the Prakticas and stuff I've come across are pretty nice.
Russian stuff is a different story.
The only Russian gear I'll touch anymore is early Kiev's. Then again, that line was straight from Jena after the war...
This one's got some quirks, but it's well built and the glass is of the highest quality. Jena remained as good as the West German Zeiss all through the cold war. I'm really excited to have it and can't wait till it warms a smidge (-3 degrees F, clear skies & dropping ;) to go out and try it out.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:17:01pm |
re: #199 William Barnett-Lewis
Didn't mean to dump and run with that semi-provocative comment earlier, though I stand by it. Had to help get the boy to bed and then got side tracked by my late Christmas present that arrived in today's mail.
A Mentor 13cm x 18 cm (5"x7") large format view camera with a 210/4.5 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar normal lens and a 300/4.5 long focus CZJ Tessar lens. Strange huge camera from the DDR of yore but the price was right - Free - and it'll really expand my large format abilities from the small 4x5 Speed Graphic I've been using. My biggest problem is going to be that I don't have any way to scan that huge negative.
But even a journeyman photographer like me is going to get some good results out of that much glass and emulsion. When I get the money for some contact paper, I'll be set :)
You weren't being provocative. You didn't insult or wrong anyone. odd viewpoints ought not to be considered provocation. This isn't Red State, after all.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:17:51pm |
re: #210 b_sharp
Whatever happened to the private threads we used to have?
Not as much trolling as there used to be, mainly. People don't need the respite the way they used to. That's my theory, anyway.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:18:49pm |
Good night folks. Snow started up here in western NY state this afternoon. 8-10" on the ground here now and still coming down.
Since there is already a 2-3" base there might be some x-country skiing tomorrow. And my gear is here at my brother's since I know I won't get that sort of snow and base in downtown Philly any time soon. ;)
(Need to work off some of these Christmas cookies.)
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A Man for all Seasons Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:23:18pm |
re: #212 William Barnett-Lewis
Not as much trolling as there used to be, mainly. People don't need the respite the way they used to. That's my theory, anyway.
We had private threads for a while but those overly obsessive nut cases we call ' the stalkers ' would send a sock to report on what we said.
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b_sharp Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:27:22pm |
It's 11:26pm here. I think I'll hit the sack so I can get up early tomorrow to play with my new toys.
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Mich-again Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:30:12pm |
Wayne LaPierre says felons and lunatics who attempt to buy guns should be arrested.
"I don't think it would make one difference," LaPierre replied. Instead, LaPierre attempted to shift the conversation to felons and "lunatics" who should be arrested if they try to purchase a gun.
But at the same time, NRA ready to fight background checks on private sales. ..
And, if you think the latest gun control debate will be limited solely to legislation to ban semi-autos and "large capacity" magazines, think again. Calls have already been renewed to subject all private sales of firearms to background checks, even among family members and friends, and to end mail-order sales of ammunition.
We knew that this fight was coming. But it's now crystal clear that this latest round is on an expedited track and the corresponding rhetoric has been amped up exponentially.
And the gun nuts lap it up. The NRA doesn't give a shit about the people killed by firearms. Dead bodies are free advertisement for them to help sell more guns.
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ReamWorks SKG Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:30:29pm |
I realize not everyone here is a fan of Walter Olson, but I thought he brought up some good points in his "Newtown Blame Chain" summary:
[Link: overlawyered.com...]
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:16:57pm |
"Good evening, I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time and this is my wife."
Nice to see Lady Vastra and Jenny return in the Dr. Who Christmas Special.
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Mich-again Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:37:37pm |
Bump Fire.. A technique used with a slide stock on an AR15 to make a semi-automatic fire like a full automatic. yikes
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Kragar Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:48:07pm |
re: #222 Mich-again
Bump Fire.. A technique used with a slide stock on an AR15 to make a semi-automatic fire like a full automatic. yikes
[Embedded content]
A technique purely for hunting or self defense, I'm sure.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:50:41pm |
Since I'm ranting about schlock TV sci-fi ... One of the more stupid things stuck into stories/episodes are vertical elevators in ships, in space.
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Mich-again Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:57:06pm |
Where Wayne LaPierre claims that the NRA represents all 100 million Americans who own firearms, and uses the "tyranny" line.. link
The NRA is the largest and most active firearms rights organization in the world, with four million members who represent 100 million law-abiding Americans who own firearms.
I bet at least some of the 96 million Americans who own firearms but aren't in the NRA might dispute that the NRA represents them. And seeing as the NRA is universally known of in the circle of those who own firearms, I think their 4% membership ratio sucks. That tells me there are 24 gun owners who say f* the NRA for every one that sends them $10 a year for the gun porn.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:59:00pm |
re: #224 freetoken
Since I'm ranting about schlock TV sci-fi ... One of the more stupid things stuck into stories/episodes are vertical elevators in ships, in space.
Forget where I saw it, but there was some scifi show where a ship had a simple motorized pulley system running along the walls and main corridors of the ship. You could go up or down shafts or corridors by clipping onto a belt going one way or the other.
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JAFO Wed, Dec 26, 2012 11:07:08pm |
re: #225 Mich-again
I'm a firearm owner. I never once considered joining the NRA. They're dicks.
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 26, 2012 11:09:45pm |
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engineer cat Wed, Dec 26, 2012 11:57:59pm |
"Good evening, I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time and this is my wife."
sounds great on paper, but wait till you see how much the taxes are
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researchok Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:09:58am |
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Kragar Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:14:43am |
Republican Party Too Extreme, Majority Of Americans Say: Poll
For the first time, a majority of Americans now say the Republican Party is too extreme, according to a poll released Thursday by CNN/ORC.
Fifty-three percent of people, including 22 percent of Republicans, said the GOP's views and policies have pushed them beyond the mainstream. The number is up dramatically from previous years. In 2010, fewer than 40 percent thought the party was too extreme.
Democrats were considered to be a "generally mainstream" party by 57 percent in the new poll.
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researchok Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:15:18am |
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freetoken Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:15:46am |
re: #230 engineer cat
"Good evening, I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time and this is my wife."
Surely the Fundamentalists will complain about not just teh ghey but now the BBC is pushing inter-species "marriage".
Or maybe not - the socons seem to overlook Dr. Who for some reason, even though the main character is a blatant, and over the top, replacement-Christ.
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researchok Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:22:04am |
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Kragar Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:22:04am |
re: #236 freetoken
Surely the Fundamentalists will complain about not just teh ghey but now the BBC is pushing inter-species "marriage".
Or maybe not - the socons seem to overlook Dr. Who for some reason, even though the main character is a blatant, and over the top, replacement-Christ.
Or is Jesus an over the top replacement for The Doctor?
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freetoken Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:37:08am |
re: #238 researchok
Well, I have thousands of links to Christmas music, but I figured that might just be a few hundred too many for some people...
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freetoken Thu, Dec 27, 2012 12:41:23am |
Here's another Peterson performance, "A Child Is Born", from his 1970 album:
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researchok Thu, Dec 27, 2012 1:02:31am |
re: #241 freetoken
I wonder how many times in a lifetime the Oscar Peterson's come around.
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Kragar Thu, Dec 27, 2012 1:49:41am |
Its official. I hate working with resin based models.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Dec 27, 2012 2:20:40am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 4:50:08am |
Where is everybody?
I'm at work. So lame, nothing to do here. I've been putting comments in my code, could write a freaking novel.
Maybe I'll buy some stuff at Amazon.
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 5:55:55am |
re: #245 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Playing golf? Seems to be the only thing on the mind of Drudge these days.
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 5:58:26am |
Haven't seen this one reported:
3 people injured by gunfire at a party held at a church hall in Southern NJ over Christmas.
But authorities say it's not clear what sparked the shootings at the Saint Anthony's Greek Orthodox Church in Vineland, which occurred shortly after 1 a.m. Wednesday.
Police responding to a report of shots fired found three people had been shot.
Two victims were flown to a trauma center, but further details on their conditions were not disclosed. The third victim was treated at a hospital.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:00:38am |
re: #246 lawhawk
Playing golf? Seems to be the only thing on the mind of Drudge these days.
Golf is so lame.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:01:09am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:24:07am |
re: #223 Kragar
A technique purely for hunting or self defense, I'm sure.
No, it's for target shooting. Anyone who used that sort of 'bumpfire' device to shoot another person would find likely themselves up on charges, even if they were justified. Cops and prosecutors don't like devices like that and they'd use it as evidence of a 'Rambo mentality'. If one wants such a device, the rifle associated with it should be kept partially disassembled in a locked case or safe unless it is being taken out for target shooting. Keep a different, more defensible gun for self-defense.
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A Mom Anon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:30:01am |
re: #250 Dark_Falcon
Target shooting? That video didn't show anyone aiming at anything at all specific that I could see. Unless there's another way of doing the bump fire technique, I'm not sure how firing from belt loop height is going to hit any kind of target. Enlighten me if I'm just being goofy.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:33:31am |
re: #249 Sol Berdinowitz
Waste of an otherwise good walk.
And of otherwise good land which could be used for something else.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:35:49am |
re: #245 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Where is everybody?
I'm at work. So lame, nothing to do here. I've been putting comments in my code, could write a freaking novel.
Maybe I'll buy some stuff at Amazon.
Working from home today and tomorrow. Not only is there a chance that I might go to CES in Vegas this year, but I got a late Christmas present of a possible opportunity at work that would be awesome if I managed to land it.
All in all, not a bad way to end the year. :)
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:35:55am |
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dragonath Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:42:33am |
Golf would be so much cooler if everybody had to play in a peat bog or something.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:42:36am |
re: #254 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Like wind farms.
Here in Chicagoland it would mostly be either subdivisions or forest preserves if some golf courses closed. May of the Golf courses are along the Chicago or Des Plaines rivers and could not be used for a wind farm due to the threat to migratory birds.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:46:46am |
re: #251 A Mom Anon
Target shooting? That video didn't show anyone aiming at anything at all specific that I could see. Unless there's another way of doing the bump fire technique, I'm not sure how firing from belt loop height is going to hit any kind of target. Enlighten me if I'm just being goofy.
"Target" in this usage is large mob of Urban Yootes zombies.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:48:10am |
re: #164 Usually refered to as anyways
B b b but what would we do with all the little boxes we put people in?
Don't you care about the box makers?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:49:08am |
In 2011 Handguns Killed: 48 in Japan, 8 Great Britain, 34 Switzerland, 52 Canada, 58 Israel, 21 Sweden, 10,728 in USA— M. Naz (@Mozi_N) December 27, 2012
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:49:32am |
re: #171 Killgore Trout
Most people adopt those terms to avoid critical thought. People on their own as individuals are much more interesting and nuanced but issues are complicated. Most of us have only a very basic understanding of economics or science. Social issues and demographics trends are complicated and solutions are often unpleasant realities. People adopt political labels to avoid thinking or learning, The labels come with a whole host of prepackaged solutions already made for us. Individuality is not required and is generally frowned upon.
I'm so tired of labels I could scream. As soon as someone (usually a Fox News Drone) says the word "liberal", my mind shuts down and I realize I am not having a conversation with a thinking person.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:50:31am |
re: #251 A Mom Anon
Target shooting? That video didn't show anyone aiming at anything at all specific that I could see. Unless there's another way of doing the bump fire technique, I'm not sure how firing from belt loop height is going to hit any kind of target. Enlighten me if I'm just being goofy.
I was going to add "fun shooting" to the post but was afraid of the reaction. That sort of shoot involves shooting breakable targets set out on a range, up to and including old cars.
And you can 'bump-fire' from the shoulder as well. That would provide better control, but it still would not be all that useful. Full auto fire from an AR-15 is overrated, and is mostly used for close-quarters room clearing and anti-ambush 'mad minute' protective fire.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:51:33am |
re: #178 freetoken
The term I use most of the time, in describing much of the GOP and the Tea Partying crowd is "reactionary right".
The term "reactionary" itself can be ambiguous out of context. We all "react" to the stimuli in our environment - all living things do.
However, in the context of politics, especially in a nation with political parties, campaigns, elections, and entrenched institutions, "reactionary right" I use to describe the essential views of those who are rejecting recent changes in their society, which they see as an affront to them, and as a group devise goals to return to an earlier era.
"Revanchist" is accurate too, but it implies "taking back", which indeed holds true of much of the Tea Partying crowd.
The policy centers of the GOP are strongly tilted towards idolizing previous eras, of returning somehow to an older order of things.
While the Democratic party is pretty much controlled by entropy, it does have pocket of thinkers who are more actively engaged in finding ideas for our own times and for the near and far futures that are not just business as usual. But, as the link I posted earlier about new San Diego mayor Bob Filner illuminated, there is plenty of blame to go around, for our national political ineptness.
I still think, Whacko™ is the best "catch-all" term. Although now, I'll have to distinguish between the mentally disturbed and the just plain Whacko™.
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dragonath Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:52:15am |
Since golf was brought up, here's the latest from the One True Scotsman:
"Donald Trump: GOP Has 'Nuclear Weapon' In Fiscal Cliff Negotiation, But They Don't Know It" bit.ly/RimrhB via @mediaite— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 26, 2012
That's right, the GOP is a rogue state with a WMD.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:56:15am |
Ah well, I"m caught-up in the thread and I have to go.
Have a great day all!
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 6:59:47am |
In Philly, a shooting every seven hours. 1,243 shooting victims. 327 killed. Per capita, its homicide rate is 21 per 100k. Baltimore is higher at 32.6.
NYC has a rate of 4.7 per 100k.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:02:04am |
re: #265 lawhawk
In Philly, a shooting every seven hours. 1,243 shooting victims. 327 killed. Per capita, its homicide rate is 21 per 100k. Baltimore is higher at 32.6.
NYC has a rate of 4.7 per 100k.
NYC was running about 1300 when I lived there, though it had a much larger population. Our S. Alabama smsa has a much higher rate per capita.
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dragonath Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:04:23am |
So...The name of the judge performing midnight wedding services for same sex couples in WA? Mary Yu. #CantMakeThisShitUp— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) December 10, 2012
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:26:37am |
re: #263 dragonath
Since golf was brought up, here's the latest from the One True Scotsman:
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That's right, the GOP is a rogue state with a WMD.
The righties always have some "secret weapon" or "smoking gun" that will "destroy Obama." Same old boring bologna.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:28:48am |
re: #268 Gus
The righties always have some "secret weapon" or "smoking gun" that will "destroy Obama." Same old boring bologna.
Much of that was brought to 'the righties' by Trump himself--the Freepers fall for it every time.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:29:53am |
re: #268 Gus
The righties always have some "secret weapon" or "smoking gun" that will "destroy Obama." Same old boring bologna.
"The Whitey tape" was one of my favorites.
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:29:54am |
re: #263 dragonath
Since golf was brought up, here's the latest from the One True Scotsman:
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That's right, the GOP is a rogue state with a WMD.
Trump will no doubt offer a $5 million check in an offer of full and complete settlement of the national debt.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:31:00am |
MASSIVE HEAD-DESKING FACE-PALMING DERP!
Why can't the gov't just give money to poor seniors who need it? Why go through the dog and pony show ponzi scheme called Social Security?— Kevin Eder (@keder) December 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:36:51am |
re: #270 Ghost of Tom Joad
"The Whitey tape" was one of my favorites.
There's a tape of Obama with Whitey Bulger?
I did not know that!!
/
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:41:23am |
WTF!!
Govt dependents Outnumber Those With Private Sector Jobs In 11 U.S. States. More takers than makers. afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) December 27, 2012
Oh, he's counting everyone with government JOBS (like, soldiers, sailors, marines, police, firefighters, etc.) as "takers"
What a freaking DUMBASS.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:45:55am |
re: #274 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
WTF!!
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Oh, he's counting everyone with government JOBS (like, soldiers, sailors, marines, police, firefighters, etc.) as "takers"
What a freaking DUMBASS.
If I made my living selling Pie in the Sky, I'd be very shy about lists of "Makers and Takers".
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:47:52am |
re: #274 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Everyone is a government dependent when you look at it through the funhouse mirror prism of the loony bin. You rely on government to maintain law and order (cops and firefighters, rescue personnel)? You're dependent.
Education? Dependent upon teachers.
Disabled or retired after spending entire life working? Dependent.
Need to ride roads, bridges, or (especially mass transit)? Dependent.
He's just going further - and his followers are lapping it up ignoring the consequences of that line of thought.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:48:13am |
re: #275 Decatur Deb
If I made my living selling Pie in the Sky, I'd be very shy about lists of "Makers and Takers".
Bryan no doubt thinks of himself as a "maker" because of the massive amounts of bullshit that he produces, but not of the kind that could be used to fertilize crops.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:48:22am |
re: #275 Decatur Deb
If I made my living selling Pie in the Sky, I'd be very shy about lists of "Makers and Takers".
God was the maker, Fischer is just one of the trillions of takers who have lived here. If people only prayed more, the "Great Job Creator in the Sky" would let more of his holy wealth trickle down unto us undeserving plebes.
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:51:39am |
re: #274 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
WTF!!
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Oh, he's counting everyone with government JOBS (like, soldiers, sailors, marines, police, firefighters, etc.) as "takers"
What a freaking DUMBASS.
We're going to need a separate upding button for "Stupid Bryan Fischer tweets."
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:54:03am |
re: #279 BongCrodny
We're going to need a separate upding button for "Stupid Bryan Fischer tweets."
Perhaps a mood button?
How does this comment make you feel?
[ ] Happy
[ ] Sad
[ ] Nauseous
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:54:33am |
re: #279 BongCrodny
We're going to need a separate upding button for "Stupid Bryan Fischer tweets."
His font should have its own shade of Wingnut Purple.
(A Moonbat Blue would also be nice, if not often used.)
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:58:03am |
re: #280 Gus
Perhaps a mood button?
How does this comment make you feel?
[ ] Happy
[ ] Sad
[ ] Nauseous
A Meat Loaf song comes to mind here. :-)
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:58:07am |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
His font should have its own shade of Wingnut Purple.
(A Moonbat Blue would also be nice, if not often used.)
We can also use a Batshit Crazy Red. //
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 7:59:35am |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
His font should have its own shade of Wingnut Purple.
(A Moonbat Blue would also be nice, if not often used.)
It would have to be something migraine-inducing, like flashing lime green.
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:00:21am |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
His font should have its own shade of Wingnut Purple.
(A Moonbat Blue would also be nice, if not often used.)
"Moonbat Blue" actually sounds pretty cool.
Maybe something like sky blue, with unicorns.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:06:35am |
re: #286 BongCrodny
"Moonbat Blue" actually sounds pretty cool.
Maybe something like sky blue, with unicorns.
Moonbat font should be sparkly and twee, since most of them live in a fantasy world.
Batshit Crazy font should be red and ALL CAPS.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:09:37am |
re: #287 Lidane
Moonbat font should be sparkly and twee, since most of them live in a fantasy world.
Batshit Crazy font should be red and ALL CAPS.
BOLD!
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:11:59am |
re: #288 Gus
Also, we need a version of Wingdings for the Luap Nor/Alex Jones loons. You know, since they're all about symbolism and meaning.
///
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:13:48am |
re: #289 Lidane
Also, we need a version of Wingdings for the Luap Nor/Alex Jones loons. You know, since they're all about symbolism and meaning.
///
PSYOPS!
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:15:41am |
re: #287 Lidane
Moonbat font should be sparkly and twee, since most of them live in a fantasy world.
Batshit Crazy font should be red and ALL CAPS.
BLOOD RED, with THREE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:15:43am |
re: #289 Lidane
Also, we need a version of Wingdings for the Luap Nor/Alex Jones loons. You know, since they're all about symbolism and meaning.
///
Randian text should be something Art Deco, with a space between each letter for i n d i v i d u a l i s m.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:16:30am |
Nothing threatens your job more than the fact the House GOP is only worrying about losing their jobs to even more destructive Republicans.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) December 27, 2012
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:18:39am |
re: #292 Decatur Deb
Randian text should be something Art Deco, with a space between each letter, f o r i n d i v i d u a l i s m.
h i l l b i l l y + r a n d i a n + g a l t™
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:19:11am |
Getting a good workout from my exercise equipment, moving it back into the spare bedroom now that the visitors have gone.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:20:29am |
The military would rather fight middle east savages than the domestic enemies running/ruining our country. I am very afraid for my children.— FreeRepublic.txt (@FreeRepublicTXT) December 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:22:13am |
re: #295 Decatur Deb
Getting a good workout from my
exercise equipmentclothes hanger, moving it back into the spare bedroom now that the visitors have gone.
ftfy
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:22:37am |
Uh oh.
Rising opium prices leading Iran addicts to switch to cheaper homemade"shisheh" (meth), v @ft ow.ly/1QyvXh ($)— Borzou Daragahi (@borzou) December 27, 2012
Here come the hillbilly Persians. :O
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Slap Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:24:53am |
re: #286 BongCrodny
"Moonbat Blue" actually sounds pretty cool.
Maybe something like sky blue, with unicorns.
Nah, call Dianne Warren and get the song to Melissa Manchester, stat!
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Targetpractice Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:26:36am |
re: #293 Lidane
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For example, Boehner's getting ready to let the country go over the fiscal cliff just to assure he'll keep his job after Jan 3rd.
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:26:46am |
re: #296 Gus
The military would rather fight middle east savages than the domestic enemies running/ruining our country. I am very afraid for my children.
That makes two of us.
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wrenchwench Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:28:17am |
re: #275 Decatur Deb
If I made my living selling Pie in the Sky, I'd be very shy about lists of "Makers and Takers".
Needs moar updings.
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BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:28:56am |
re: #299 Slap
Nah, call Dianne Warren and get the song to Melissa Manchester, stat!
Ha! I was actually thinking of that song when I first saw "Moonbat Blue."
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:32:34am |
re: #301 BongCrodny
That makes two of us.
Here's the full quote:
“we probably need a coup before 2016.”
Today sounds about right. Actually, it should have been January 2009.
It seems no one has the stones for it anymore and would rather watch football or text on their IPhone. The rest of the world laughs at us. We are so pathetic and weak. The military would rather fight middle east savages than the domestic enemies running/ruining our country. I am very afraid for my children.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:32:46am |
Laser-like focus on jobs and the economy:
Republicans Now 100 Percent #AWOL From Fiscal Cliff Talks motherjones.com/kevin-drum/201... via @motherjones— SpreadTheWord (@word_34) December 27, 2012
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:35:55am |
re: #305 Lidane
Laser-like focus on jobs and the economy:
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GOP wants to DO NOTHING so that the Bush tax cuts expire FOR EVERYONE and then they can say HA HA OBAMA RAISED UR TAXES! while they figure out how to get those tax cuts back for the 1% but not for anyone else.
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Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:36:16am |
re: #304 Gus
Here's the full quote:
Just wait until a Predator drone takes out a crazy militia compound with a hellfire.
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Targetpractice Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:36:35am |
re: #305 Lidane
Laser-like focus on jobs and the economy:
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And predictably, the excuse-making by the GOP is already starting, with the leading excuse being "Obama's demands killed negotiations!"
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:37:02am |
re: #305 Lidane
Laser-like focus on jobs and the economy:
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Obama has returned from vacation while Boehner is still on vacation.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:39:22am |
re: #309 Targetpractice
And predictably, the excuse-making by the GOP is already starting, with the leading excuse being "Obama's demands killed negotiations!"
The GOP couldn't even agree on their own bill. Weak sauce.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:40:19am |
Remember: If Obama can't Republicans to agree to higher taxes by Jan. 1, the result will be higher taxes by default.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 27, 2012
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Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:44:35am |
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Targetpractice Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:45:23am |
re: #311 Gus
The GOP couldn't even agree on their own bill. Weak sauce.
They have an excuse for that one too: "We passed bills earlier this year, the Senate should pass them to avoid the cliff!" The bills in question are one to extend the Bush Tax Cuts for another year and another to replace the defense sequester with more cuts to programs for the poor.
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Kronocide Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:47:02am |
re: #310 Gus
Obama has returned from vacation while Boehner is still on vacation.
I've been trying to find the confirmation, but it appears Boehner plays a lot more golf than Obama.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:52:46am |
That sound you hear is more wingnut head explosions:
Supreme Court Declines To Halt Contraception Law livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/supreme-... via @pemalevy— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) December 27, 2012
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 8:59:34am |
re: #316 Kronocide
I've been trying to find the confirmation, but it appears Boehner plays a lot more golf than Obama.
Deconstructing the 5 most ridiculous myths about Barack Obama
1. Obama has played more golf than any president in history
This isn't even close to being true. Now, there's no question that he plays on a regular basis: 104 rounds from January 2009 through Aug. 4 of this year, the last time he played, according to Mark Knoller, the longtime White House correspondent for CBS Radio. That puts him about in the middle when compared with other duffers-in-chief. It's less than Bill Clinton, and a lot less than Dwight Eisenhower, who played more than 800 rounds over eight years — four times as often as Obama plays.
And why is it an outrage if the president, who heads one of three branches of government, golfs 104 times in three-and-a-half-years, but the head of another branch of government, the Speaker of the House, plays four times as much? You heard correctly: John Boehner once told Golf Digest that he plays upwards of 100 rounds a year. Seems like a double standard, no?
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:01:56am |
re: #318 Gus
Deconstructing the 5 most ridiculous myths about Barack Obama
Golf sucks, I don't understand the appeal that it has. It does seem to be a game for control freaks, like THIS F&%KING LITTLE BALL JUST SITS THERE AND I BEAT IT WITH A CLUB UNTIL IT GOES WHERE I WANT IT TO!1!
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:02:46am |
Good Morning all.
Here's an interesting opinion piece on the Gun Culture in America. I find it a good analysis but the reality is that there's no way his proposals would ever happen.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:02:56am |
Newt Gingrich's embarrassing ringtone huff.to/Tlpq8Z— HuffPost Live (@HuffPostLive) December 27, 2012
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:03:45am |
re: #319 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Golf sucks, I don't understand the appeal that it has. It does seem to be a game for control freaks, like THIS F&%KING LITTLE BALL JUST SITS THERE AND I BEAT IT WITH A CLUB UNTIL IT GOES WHERE I WANT IT TO!1!
Golf is a lot like soccer in slow motion. :D
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:04:59am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:06:07am |
re: #322 Gus
Golf is a lot like soccer in slow motion. :D
Hockey is like team golf on ice and it's FUN TO WATCH! Especially the beating with clubs.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:06:36am |
re: #320 William Barnett-Lewis
Good Morning all.
Here's an interesting opinion piece on the Gun Culture in America. I find it a good analysis but the reality is that there's no way his proposals would ever happen.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Heh. The first (negative) comment is from '11bravo'.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:06:40am |
re: #319 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Golf sucks, I don't understand the appeal that it has. It does seem to be a game for control freaks, like THIS F&%KING LITTLE BALL JUST SITS THERE AND I BEAT IT WITH A CLUB UNTIL IT GOES WHERE I WANT IT TO!1!
All you need to know about Golf from Williams and Carlin.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:07:22am |
re: #325 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Hockey is like team golf on ice and it's FUN TO WATCH! Especially the beating with clubs.
Just before while having a cigarette out front I was thinking that combat golf might be more interesting.
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wrenchwench Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:07:58am |
AP: More Meth Labs Showing up in Cities, Suburbs ow.ly/1Qz2Qx. And Sudafed sales are STILL monitored more closely than gun sales.— Sanho Tree (@SanhoTree) December 27, 2012
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:11:46am |
re: #328 Gus
Just before while having a cigarette out front I was thinking that combat golf might be more interesting.
How about a game of Beat the Cigarette out of the Smoker's Hand With a Golf Club?
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:11:52am |
Sleeping homeless woman set on fire outside Los Angeles drug store - @nbcla nbcnews.to/U2J4Fk— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 27, 2012
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:12:03am |
re: #330 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
How about a game of Beat the Cigarette out of the Smoker's Hand With a Golf Club?
:P
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:12:21am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:13:16am |
re: #333 Lidane
"Dancing Queen" by ABBA, apparently.
I totally would not have recognized that if I heard it. I thought it would be something lame like "Call Me Maybe"
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:14:26am |
re: #268 Gus
The righties always have some "secret weapon" or "smoking gun" that will "destroy Obama." Same old boring bologna.
Trump doesn't get it: John Boehner isn't going to use a "nuclear weapon" because he knows how bad the fallout would be.
/The joining of two metaphors is a beautiful thing.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:14:46am |
Kentucky Man With Obama Eating Watermelon Statue: It Seemed Like It Might Get Hungry bit.ly/TrRSom— Wonkette (@Wonkette) December 27, 2012
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:15:38am |
re: #318 Gus
The vacation myth is just that. A myth.
Presidents don't get vacations. They get a change of scenery as Nancy Reagan observed.
Many presidents, including GW Bush, didn't care for DC, so they spent as much time away from DC as possible. For some, that meant going to Camp David. For others, it was going to their own homes/ranches.
But they worked at those locations and made the tough decisions throughout.
For instance, there's a reason that the Camp David Accord is called the Camp David Accords and not the White House accords. It was negotiated and signed by the parties at Camp David, not the White House despite the President's presence. Being at the WH creates a fishbowl atmosphere and more media scrutiny than at the alternative locations.
Focus on location ignores that the President is on call and on the job 24/7/365.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:15:46am |
My followers aren't worried about falling off fiscal cliff. Are worried about falling off bed from vigorous sex.— Dr. Ruth Westheimer (@AskDrRuth) December 27, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:16:44am |
re: #331 Lidane
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Next up: Michael Bloomberg pushes plan to outlaw lighter fluid.
/Kidding. I hope the asshole who did that is hunted down like a dog then caged like one for the rest of his miserable life.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:17:06am |
Apple Paid CEO Tim Cook 'Just' $4.17 Million in 2012
Tim Cook may run the most valuable company in the world, but you wouldn't know it from his pay this year.
The Apple CEO made just $4.17 million in 2012, according to a new SEC filing from Apple. That is certainly a salary many workers would be happy to have, but it represents a 99% decline from the $376 million Cook was paid last year.
That may come as a surprise at first considering that Apple's market cap has grown to more than $480 billion this year under Cook's leadership, but the decline in his pay is due to a technicality rather than anything to do with his performance.
Cook was granted a massive amount of stock options totaling more than $376 million when he was promoted to CEO in 2011, much of which will vest in the coming years. Given that, Apple's Compensation Committee decided not to grant Cook any additional stock options this year, which is why his pay out appears so much lower.
Still, it's a striking drop in pay, especially when you consider that several other top Apple executives who work under Cook made more than 10x as much as him this year thanks to the stock options they were awarded.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:17:07am |
re: #324 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
OK what's the ringtone?
Dancing Queen for regular calls. Super Trooper for his Wife.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:17:22am |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:18:41am |
GAH!
If unchecked, I have no doubt that Obama would happily exterminate more people than Mao, Stalin and Hitler combined; he is that depraved— FreeRepublic.txt (@FreeRepublicTXT) December 27, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:18:41am |
re: #334 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
I totally would not have recognized that if I heard it. I thought it would be something lame like "Call Me Maybe"
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:20:12am |
re: #343 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
I'm still trying to figure out what part of Obama's personality and/or politics would put him anywhere on the same spectrum as Mao, Hitler, or Stalin.
The only people who are depraved are the ones who believe that kind of bullshit. WTF.
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Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:20:45am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:21:00am |
re: #340 Lidane
Averaged out over both years, though, it comes to $190 million per year. That seems more than fair to me.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:22:22am |
re: #346 Lidane
I'm still trying to figure out what part of Obama's personality and/or politics would put him anywhere on the same spectrum as Mao, Hitler, or Stalin.
The only people who are depraved are the ones who believe that kind of bullshit. WTF.
There was this person on Twitter who kept Tweeting that
Obama is just like Hitler!1!ty
so I asked if that is really true, why are you Tweeting up a storm and not in a death camp?
Crazed wingnut screeched @viciousbabushka thinks I should be in a Death Camp! and then blocked my Twitter feed.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:22:28am |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Averaged out over both years, though, it comes to $190 million per year. That seems more than fair to me.
More than fair? That's more money than 99% of people will see in a lifetime.
That's not just more than fair. It's generous as all hell.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:22:30am |
re: #343 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
GAH!
[Embedded content]
Full quote:
Let that evil bastard zero blame Boner. The GOP can throw Boner under the bus and maybe we can have someone to stand up to this God damn Devil. In WW2, Neville Chamberlin gave up his post to Churchill in order to face the enemy. Time for Boner to give up, but where is our Churchill?
Obama holds the world record for debt, what’s to stop this despotic and diabolical man from exerting his real desire? If unchecked, I have no doubt that Obama would happily exterminate more people than Mao, Stalin and Hitler combined; he is that depraved, IMO.
I pray every day that we are spared from this bastard.
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TedStriker Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:23:47am |
re: #298 Gus
Uh oh.
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Here come the hillbilly Persians. :O
Who's gonna be their Walter White?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:24:17am |
re: #343 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
GAH!
@freerepublictxt Ugly, depraved, and hateful.You ought to be ashamed of yourself.Obama's a better man than you'll EVER be. #tcot #tlot
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) December 27, 2012
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:25:19am |
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Averaged out over both years, though, it comes to $190 million per year. That seems more than fair to me.
More than fair considering the Chinese workers that make their products probably see on average 190 Cents per year.
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erik_t Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:25:33am |
re: #346 Lidane
I'm still trying to figure out what part of Obama's personality and/or politics would put him anywhere on the same spectrum as Mao, Hitler, or Stalin.
The only people who are depraved are the ones who believe that kind of bullshit. WTF.
On average, Maohitlerstalin is 2/3 white. Obama is only 1/2 white.
Math'd!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:26:29am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:28:13am |
re: #354 Ghost of Tom Joad
More than fair considering the Chinese workers that make their products probably see on average 190 Cents per year.
That's an underestimate. They couldn't live on that, and the skilled labor required to fabricate iPhone components commands a higher price than that, even in China.
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:28:26am |
Somewhere out there, the RWNJ's are twitching:
NRA President Defends David Gregory, Knocks DC Law
National Rifle Association President David Keene said Thursday that NBC host David Gregory shouldn't be prosecuted for displaying an empty high capacity magazine on "Meet the Press," even though it may have violated Washington, D.C. law. Gregory held up the magazine Sunday during an interview that was taped in Washington with NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre. A city police spokesperson said earlier this week the agency was investigating the matter.
"No, I don't think so," Keene said in the interview Thursday on CNN when asked whether Gregory should be prosecuted. "There are two lessons for him there. One, don't ask the government what's legal and what isn't legal because half the people you ask don't know. And secondly, that's a silly felony. It's a felony in Washington, D.C., to own that magazine or to be caught with a cartridge. So I really think what David Gregory did, while he was inadvertently flouting the law, was illustrated in a very graphic way, perhaps not intentionally, but in a graphic way just how silly some of these laws are."
"I'm not a vindictive guy that wants to go after David Gregory," Keene added. "I think it illustrates the craziness of some of the laws."
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:29:33am |
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Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:30:51am |
Banning 'Sharia Law' and the other craziest Republican legislative proposals of 2012 ---> thkpr.gs/W6P4eL— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) December 27, 2012
| 363 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:31:10am |
re: #359 Gus
Psst. That Twitter account just posts Freeper quotes.
Is that an automatic account that posts random Freeper quotes or someone actually picks out the "special" ones?
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:32:03am |
re: #363 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Is that an automatic account that posts random Freeper quotes or someone actually picks out the "special" ones?
Someone that picks out the special quotes. I asked last week.
| 365 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:32:12am |
re: #360 Dark_Falcon
Oops. I didn't know that.
But a glace at its page on Twitter shows it to be pro Freep. Complete with this little image:
[Link: pbs.twimg.com...]
| 366 |
Mattand Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:33:21am |
re: #340 Lidane
I want some of that as pain and suffering for trying to get my calendars synced to iCloud. Finally did it; all it took was constantly reloading and deleting multiple entries over the course of several months.
| 367 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:33:50am |
re: #364 Gus
Someone that picks out the special quotes. I asked last week.
I used to be a Freeper back in the day. I stopped going there after the rage meltdown when Obama won in '08.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:36:30am |
How many people has God killed so far?
Estimates based on Biblical references: ca. 25 million
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:39:08am |
re: #340 Lidane
That's quite the haul and the company's product line and profits may justify it (and when combined with his stock option vestments, he's going to do quite well over the rest of his time with the company).
It's nice work if you can get it.
Most people never attain those kinds of jobs or job opportunities. Instead, most are working to see a fraction of that annual salary over their entire lifetime. And for most, that's enough. Others strive for greater and fall short. The problems begin where compensation and performance diverge such as when a company is failing but the chairman gets a bonus all while firing those around him.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:39:23am |
re: #365 Dark_Falcon
But a glace at its page on Twitter shows it to be pro Freep. Complete with this little image:
[Link: pbs.twimg.com...]
It's like "shit wingnuts say."
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:41:24am |
Like this one for the Reddit weirdos: [Link: twitter.com...]
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:41:45am |
re: #371 Gus
Like this one for the Reddit weirdos: [Link: twitter.com...]
Why is "White Pride" racist? That kind of thing confuses the hell out of me. Why am I not allowed to be proud of my heritage?— Reddit.txt (@Reddit_txt) December 20, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:46:04am |
re: #373 lawhawk
To 'em it's all Candie land.
Did you mean 'Candide land'? Though they're far too hateful to be compared to Voltaire's never-malicious naive.
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:46:58am |
re: #374 Dark_Falcon
Nope. Candie Land - the fictional locale of the final act in Django Unchained.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:55:10am |
Speaking of crazy. Check out this weirdo's response to an innocent Tweet from State:
@statedept @connectstategov HillaryClinton YouLIED 4USCitizensDied! Benhazi WatchedInREALTime ChrisStevens SeanSmith TyroneWoods GlenDoherty—??° (@iMaGiNeprints) December 27, 2012
He/she already trolled them twice.
BENGHAZI OOGA BOOGA!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:56:43am |
re: #376 Gus
Speaking of crazy. Check out this weirdo's response to an innocent Tweet from State:
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He/she already trolled them twice.
BENGHAZI OOGA BOOGA!
Good catch. Added to the DERP list.
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erik_t Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:57:06am |
re: #376 Gus
So much crazypants they couldn't even fit in spaces. Impressive.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 9:59:43am |
Look at this fuckball's Tweets:
I want to ban all suggestions of new gun laws that have nothing to do with what went wrong in Connecticut.— Kevin Eder (@keder) December 27, 2012
Most of the 'solutions' the gun grabbing loons are suggesting have literally nothing to do with what went wrong in Connecticut.— Kevin Eder (@keder) December 27, 2012
How is this related to Newtown? MT @ikentspell: @keder just ban semi-assault weapons. whats wrong w/that. why do u need more than 1 handgun.— Kevin Eder (@keder) December 27, 2012
What does this have to do with Newtown? RT @robertwaldeck: @keder should close gun show loophole. 33 states require no background check— Kevin Eder (@keder) December 27, 2012
| 381 |
Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:01:00am |
re: #380 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Look at this fuckball's Tweets:
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Almost 28,000 followers. The man's a genius! //
| 382 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:04:20am |
re: #381 Gus
Almost 28,000 followers. The man's a genius! //
Is he somebody special or something? Past few weeks people have been quoting his tweets here. Am I missing something? From his picture I'm not sure he even shaves yet.
| 383 |
Lidane Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:04:58am |
re: #381 Gus
Almost 28,000 followers. The man's a genius! //
Here's a law that would relate directly to Newtown -- prosecute gun owners for murder when their children/relatives take their arsenal and go shoot up a school. You know, assuming that gun owner isn't killed first.
And before I get flamed for that, no I'm not serious. I'm only offering a law directly related to the shooting, since that seems to be his thing.
| 384 |
Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:07:10am |
re: #382 Ghost of Tom Joad
Is he somebody special or something? Past few weeks people have been quoting his tweets here. Am I missing something? From his picture I'm not sure he even shaves yet.
He's been around for a while. Never understood the appeal he has with wingnuts but that's the general rule. You can be a complete blithering idiot in wingnut world and still get a large following.
| 385 |
erik_t Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:07:52am |
re: #380 Vicious Michigan Union Thug
Look at this fuckball's Tweets:
Ban all suggestions, because we really care about the Constitution.
Smrt.
| 386 |
Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:08:52am |
Marc Morano,"the Matt Drudge of climate denial," takes it for Climate Change Misinformer of the Year: mm4a.org/ZDiIju— Media Matters (@mmfa) December 27, 2012
| 387 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:10:00am |
re: #383 Lidane
You should be serious. If a gun you legally possess is used for a crime by someone else, you, as the owner, should be legally culpable for said crime.
Of course, it would require guns to be permanently stamped in a way that can't be altered (like filing off a serial number) and having a firearms registry (at least for assault weapons, including handguns). If I need insurance/license etc. to own a damn car, no reason not to have one for a deadly weapon.
Make people secure their weapons properly, and by tracking sales to owners and making them culpable, you immediately take a big chunk out of straw-man purchases.
| 388 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:10:54am |
re: #384 Gus
He's been around for a while. Never understood the appeal he has with wingnuts but that's the general rule. You can be a complete blithering idiot in wingnut world and still get a large following.
I thought you had to be a blithering tool to get a large wingnut following. Just wasn't sure if he worked for one of the wingnut-welfare operations or something.
| 389 |
dragonath Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:10:59am |
Well, I just satisfied my ancestral primeval urge by eating tons of potato pancakes.
Polish and Irish. This is my gift, my curse.
| 390 |
wrenchwench Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:13:23am |
NRA Blames Violent Video Games for Newtown, But Partnered With Company That Makes Them fb.me/1Yy9TBYET— Tom W (@TLW3) December 27, 2012
| 391 |
BongCrodny Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:14:02am |
re: #368 Sol Berdinowitz
How many people has God killed so far?
Estimates based on Biblical references: ca. 25 million
According to the Bible, some of those Old Testament dudes lived to be 700, 800, 900 years old.
So since we only get 70 or 80 years, couldn't it be argued that God has pretty much killed *everybody*?
| 392 |
wrenchwench Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:14:14am |
re: #389 dragonath
Well, I just satisfied my ancestral primeval urge by eating tons of potato pancakes.
Polish and Irish. This is my gift, my curse.
I'm Polish, Irish, German, and Slovenian. I think I'm made out of potatoes.
| 393 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:14:37am |
re: #392 wrenchwench
I'm Polish, Irish, German, and Slovenian. I think I'm made out of potatoes.
And Jews are what, chopped liver?
| 394 |
Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:15:17am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:15:44am |
re: #387 Ghost of Tom Joad
You should be serious. If a gun you legally possess is used for a crime by someone else, you, as the owner, should be legally culpable for said crime.
Of course, it would require guns to be permanently stamped in a way that can't be altered (like filing off a serial number) and having a firearms registry (at least for assault weapons, including handguns). If I need insurance/license etc. to own a damn car, no reason not to have one for a deadly weapon.
Make people secure their weapons properly, and by tracking sales to owners and making them culpable, you immediately take a big chunk out of straw-man purchases.
With an exception if the weapon was safely stored or carried. If you are legally carrying concealed, but get clunked upside the head by surprise and your gun gets stolen, you shouldn't be held criminally liable if you properly filed a police report.
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lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:15:50am |
re: #387 Ghost of Tom Joad
Hmmmm - going into the hypothetical:
Require insurance for firearms ownership. Proof of insurance is needed to register and maintain ownership. Conditioned upon proper storage/handling of firearms and ammo.
Or, firearms equivalent to dram shop liability. Owners/sellers of firearms are potentially liable when firearms used in commission of crime.
| 397 |
Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:16:39am |
re: #390 wrenchwench
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The Army made a violent video game too. I don't see Wayne throwing them under the bus.
| 398 |
lawhawk Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:17:00am |
re: #381 Gus
The more extreme you are, the easier it is to grab attention...
| 399 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:17:26am |
Chinese food has no potatoes, no dairy either.
| 400 |
Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:17:50am |
re: #388 Ghost of Tom Joad
I thought you had to be a blithering tool to get a large wingnut following. Just wasn't sure if he worked for one of the wingnut-welfare operations or something.
| 401 |
Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:19:14am |
Dear gun nuts,
Stop scapegoating everything that isn't a gun for gun violence.
Idiots.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:19:18am |
re: #397 Ghost of Tom Joad
The Army made a violent video game too. I don't see Wayne throwing them under the bus.
BBL
| 403 |
The Mountain That Blogs Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:20:02am |
re: #372 Gus
Big fan of @TumblrTXT as well
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU BRAINDEAD CIS MALE. YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARDED, HORRIBLY UGLY LOSER AND YOU'RE REEKING OF PRIVILEGE— Tumblr dot TXT (@TumblrTXT) December 27, 2012
| 404 |
Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:21:05am |
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Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:21:27am |
re: #395 Dark_Falcon
With an exception if the weapon was safely stored or carried. If you are legally carrying concealed, but get clunked upside the head by surprise and your gun gets stolen, you shouldn't be held criminally liable if you properly filed a police report.
Yes, obvious caveat, I didn't want to write a whole diatribe on it. But I think people should be forced to make sure they are properly securing their weapons. If something is stolen out of a safe or something, well, it'll happen. But think of how many accidental deaths there are, not to mention crimes committed with weapons that were bought by either straw-purchasers or second-hand, and I think it's a viable way to help decrease gun-violence while technically not stepping on the 2nd-amendment rail of politics.
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Gus Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:21:58am |
re: #403 The Mountain That Blogs
Big fan of @TumblrTXT as well
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
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Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:25:00am |
re: #406 Gus
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
That's it!
I'm going to turn you into a Newt or a Gingrich.
| 408 |
Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:25:08am |
re: #391 BongCrodny
According to the Bible, some of those Old Testament dudes lived to be 700, 800, 900 years old.
So since we only get 70 or 80 years, couldn't it be argued that God has pretty much killed *everybody*?
AFAIK, this is just references to those whom God smote directly.
A smitten list, so to speak.
| 409 |
dragonath Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:26:39am |
re: #336 Gus
[Embedded Ugly Watermelon Statue]
The Most Amazing Equestrian Statue Ever
It's in Tennessee.
| 410 |
The Mountain That Blogs Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:29:43am |
re: #409 dragonath
Is that Nathan Bedford Forrest?
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dragonath Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:31:36am |
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Varek Raith Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:34:50am |
re: #409 dragonath
The Most Amazing Equestrian Statue Ever
It's in Tennessee.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Dec 27, 2012 10:36:01am |
re: #409 dragonath
The Most Amazing Equestrian Statue Ever
It's in Tennessee.
They had meth labs during the Civil War?
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