GusSubmitted without comment.
‘Soccer: Official Sport of Terrorism’: Why is it you never hear of baseball hooligans? http://t.co/63HgvDxjIL
— National Review (@NRO) June 16, 2014
Threat Level Red - Soccer
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 6:27:39pm |
Yeah. I never heard of any baseball or football fan getting roughed up because he was wearing the “wrong” jersey. Or rooting for the “wrong” team. And as far as I see, terrorists love to kill Futball Fans. I could bring up other terrorist organizations, but I’ll just bring one up. The National Review just pissed on about a billion people. That is quite an achievement. Stay classy morons.
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Charles Johnson Jun 16, 2014 6:39:59pm |
Whoa. National Review. Xenophobic much?
Suggested title:
National Review Says Soccer is the Sport of Violence, Bloodshed and Terrorism
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EPR-radar Jun 16, 2014 6:55:45pm |
The NRO is not as floridly psychotic as Glenn Beck et al.
I’m willing to regard this as a distinction without a difference at this point.
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Zamb Jun 16, 2014 6:55:56pm |
Just like eating halaal food, playing soccer turns you into a muslim.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 16, 2014 6:56:45pm |
Soccer is just like hockey, but without the clubs and ice-skate blades!
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 16, 2014 6:56:51pm |
“Kill the Umpire.”
Sounds like a terroristic threat against the appointed authority of the game to me.
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Decatur Deb Jun 16, 2014 6:57:09pm |
Everyone knows dressage is the only non-terrorist sport.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 6:58:07pm |
re: #1 nines09
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
That’s not to suggest its a good article. It’s not: It’s over the top and needlessly hostile. It’s being seen by few non-Americans doesn’t make it better.
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bratwurst Jun 16, 2014 6:58:11pm |
I’ll just re-post these here because they demonstrate the idiocy and blindness displayed, as usual, from NRO:
@NRO Ever heard of Bryan Stow? He met two baseball hooligans up close, idiots. http://t.co/TZW4XcKg41— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) June 17, 2014
@NRO I'd say two men who come onto the filed to assault a coach qualify as baseball hooligans as well. http://t.co/q4nTFgdfxy Idiots.— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) June 17, 2014
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bratwurst Jun 16, 2014 6:58:47pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
Hey, then that makes it perfectly acceptable to be dishonest and stupid!
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Kragar Jun 16, 2014 6:59:17pm |
Thank goodness American sporting events have never been marred by unseemly violence
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dog philosopher Jun 16, 2014 7:00:21pm |
Sport of Violence, Bloodshed and Terrorism
is this an attempt to dethrone hockey from this coveted title of honor??
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EPR-radar Jun 16, 2014 7:00:32pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
Mindless xenophobia to rally the rubes of the GOP base is ever so much better when it appears in a place foreigners won’t read.
Actually, no.
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Stanley Sea Jun 16, 2014 7:00:55pm |
re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord
Soccer is just like hockey, but without the clubs and ice-skate blades!
Less brain injury too.
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Stanley Sea Jun 16, 2014 7:02:18pm |
re: #14 EPR-radar
Mindless xenophobia to rally the rubes of the GOP base is ever so much better when it appears in a place foreigners won’t read.
Actually, no.
ding ding ding
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 7:02:24pm |
Soccer is the sport of terrorists. Therefore, soccer should be included as a check off for profiling potential terrorist suspects.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:04:07pm |
Actually, I think its more the ‘fan culture’ of places rather than the sport itself: US and Canadian soccer fans are fairly well behaved compared to some places in Europe. Which isn’t to say US fans can’t get rowdy, but we very seldom riot over sports.
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Decatur Deb Jun 16, 2014 7:04:18pm |
re: #18 Gus
Soccer is the sport of terrorists. Therefore, soccer should be included as a check off for profiling potential terrorist suspects.
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First, we must eject all terrorist-sport playing nations from NATO.
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 7:05:03pm |
Threat level red: soccer. @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/j9OAInnlfC— Gus (@Gus_802) June 17, 2014
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:05:30pm |
re: #10 bratwurst
Hey, then that makes it perfectly acceptable to be dishonest and stupid!
I didn’t mean to suggest that. I’ll add a clarification if you’ll clear the downding. OK?
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freetoken Jun 16, 2014 7:05:46pm |
National Review - this is the same outlet that pushed the idea that Mitt Romney’s baby juice has some special mojo because he has 5 sons, versus Obama who has two daughters.
National Review - this is the same outlet that ran Jonah Goldberg claiming Leonard Nimoy is a pornographer.
You mean that National Review?
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 16, 2014 7:06:52pm |
Soccer hooligans! Oh no wait it’s Canadian hockey fans, butthurt when their team lost.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:07:26pm |
re: #10 bratwurst
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
That’s not to suggest its a good article. It’s not: It’s over the top and needlessly hostile. It’s being seen by few non-Americans doesn’t make it better.
Here’s the clarification.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 7:07:40pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
Not. The. Point.
NRO is perpetuating the stereotype of the stupid, xenophobic American who equates the World Cup, which is easily the largest sporting event in the world, with dem damn dirty Ayrabs. How can you defend that?
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Kragar Jun 16, 2014 7:08:17pm |
re: #23 freetoken
National Review - this is the same outlet that pushed the idea that Mitt Romney’s baby juice has some special mojo because he has 5 sons, versus Obama who has two daughters.
National Review - this is the same outlet that ran Jonah Goldberg claiming Leonard Nimoy is a pornographer.
You mean that National Review?
I think they mean the National Review that had John Derbyshire writing for them
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 7:08:55pm |
re: #19 Dark_Falcon
Which isn’t to say US fans can’t get rowdy, but we very seldom riot over sports.
Let’s revisit this idea after the next Stanley Cup, World Series and Super Bowl, eh?
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Charles Johnson Jun 16, 2014 7:09:00pm |
re: #27 Kragar
I think they mean the National Review that had John Derbyshire writing for them
For years.
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b.d. Jun 16, 2014 7:09:57pm |
That article may be the dumbest thing I have ever read.
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Egregious Philbin Jun 16, 2014 7:10:13pm |
Yeah, because the fans never go crazy at baseball games..oh wait, they do, beating a guy into a coma at a Dodgers game because he wore Giants gear….
Over at FR the usual dipsh***s are saying the usual “soccer is for liberals..dur, derp, der…”
I love futbol! Love the USMNT! Wish that Ireland was in it!
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 7:10:21pm |
Agenda 21 pic.twitter.com/UCEFRgCnxh— Tim Murphy (@timothypmurphy) June 17, 2014
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 16, 2014 7:10:39pm |
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Decatur Deb Jun 16, 2014 7:11:05pm |
re: #27 Kragar
I think they mean the National Review that had John Derbyshire writing for them
Racist shit sounds a lot better if you can clearly enunciate it with a WF Buckley Jr. accent.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:12:34pm |
Previous post Deleted. Boy, talk about a mix up. It was in fact the Canucks fans of Vancover who were enraged after the Chicago Blackhawks bested them.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 7:12:55pm |
Michigan State Fans Riot After Spartans Win Big Ten Title Game
But hey, at least it’s not soccer riots!
/NRO
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Interesting Times Jun 16, 2014 7:15:34pm |
re: #36 Lidane
Michigan State Fans Riot After Spartans Win Big Ten Title Game
But hey, at least it’s not soccer riots!
/NRO
I’ll see that and raise you…
Jerry Sandusky Scandal: Rioting Penn State Students Lost Sight of Real Bad Guy
There are no adequate words to describe the lunacy and selfishness of those who rioted in the aftermath of Joe Paterno’s firing as the head coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions.
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bratwurst Jun 16, 2014 7:15:46pm |
re: #22 Dark_Falcon
I didn’t mean to suggest that. I’ll add a clarification if you’ll clear the downding. OK?
I promise I will stop complaining about your defense of that garbage, race-baiting publication the minute you stop defending it.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:17:00pm |
re: #26 Lidane
I didn’t, and to make that clear I edited the post:
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
That’s not to suggest its a good article. It’s not: It’s over the top and needlessly hostile. It’s being seen by few non-Americans doesn’t make it better.
Bratwurst already made the point about the original post, so I edited it to make clear I’m not defending that article. I would ask you to kindly unding the post.
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Kragar Jun 16, 2014 7:17:47pm |
re: #36 Lidane
Michigan State Fans Riot After Spartans Win Big Ten Title Game
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But hey, at least it’s not soccer riots!
/NRO
10-Cent Beer Night
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jamjam Jun 16, 2014 7:20:13pm |
Weren’t NRO the guys who came up with the “terrorist fist bump”, too ? Or was it the “terrorist fist jab” ? I mean when Pres. Obama gave Michelle a fist-bump greeting on stage.
Clearly it was an homage to the WWF’s Mean Street Posse and their trademark “gimme some” slogan/action.
Terrorist fist bump ? Terrorist soccer ? Seriously, is it some kind of advanced parody ? Is it tongue-in-cheek, delivered with such consistency that it makes you wonder, “are they serious?” The journalist might be the same guy who successfully bought tickets to an airlines flight under the names “Terry Wrist” and “al kyder”, then had the airlines page the aforementioned individuals to “pick up their bags”, or something ! Surely they’re joking ?
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andres Jun 16, 2014 7:20:31pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
An Alaskan Congressman is not something that most Puerto Ricans will know off-hand, but when certain Congressman opened his mouth on certain topics, you can expect his name to be well known.
Same here. Just because NR is not well known outside the USA, it doesn’t take much to be well known for this shenanigans.
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bratwurst Jun 16, 2014 7:20:57pm |
re: #41 b.d.
Terrorists prefer Pepsi over Coca Cola. right?
Are you kidding? It stands for Pay Every Penny to Save Israel! /
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Charles Johnson Jun 16, 2014 7:23:16pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
Maybe I can do something in my own small way to change that situation, so more people know how the conservative mainstream sees them.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:23:54pm |
re: #37 Interesting Times
I’ll see that and raise you…
Jerry Sandusky Scandal: Rioting Penn State Students Lost Sight of Real Bad Guy
It was a foolish and idiotic action indeed. When I worked for Marcus Evans, one of the quotes on the wall was by Joe Paterno. It took some doing, but me and some others there were able to point out that the quote, which praised such qualities as loyalty and confidence, ought not to have been there any longer, as Joe Paterno had shown he did not really believe in the qualities he had publicly championed. Instead he had covered up the violation of young boys in order to gain money and avoid damage to his reputation.
It was in that way just that the exposure of Sandusky left the reputation Paterno had lied to protect in ruins. After the final report on the disgusting matter was released, my then-employer had the Paterno quote painted over
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Interesting Times Jun 16, 2014 7:24:28pm |
re: #42 jamjam
Weren’t NRO the guys who came up with the “terrorist fist bump”, too ? Or was it the “terrorist fist jab” ? I mean when Pres. Obama gave Michelle a fist-bump greeting on stage.
It was actually fox news anchor E.D. Hill (but since all the wingnut spokesholes read from the same script anyway, one can hardly be blamed for getting them confused)
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jamjam Jun 16, 2014 7:26:04pm |
re: #40 Kragar
10-Cent Beer Night
Don’t forget that time in Chicago where they tried to “kill disco”, with the rock DJ getting people to bring in all their disco records into the game. They put them in a box, and blew them up, leaving a crater in the outfield. The game got going again - but then quickly turned into a riot.
I don’t remember the name of the incident, but it was similar to the 10 cent beer night. That is, pretty ill conceived, and ending with violence and riots.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:26:07pm |
re: #47 Interesting Times
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
That’s not to suggest its a good article. It’s not: It’s over the top and needlessly hostile. It’s being seen by few non-Americans doesn’t make it better.
I edited the original post, just so you know. Sorry if my lack of clarity offended.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 16, 2014 7:27:11pm |
re: #42 jamjam
Weren’t NRO the guys who came up with the “terrorist fist bump”, too ? Or was it the “terrorist fist jab” ? I mean when Pres. Obama gave Michelle a fist-bump greeting on stage.
“Terrorist fist bump” was The New Yorker
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 7:27:53pm |
re: #45 Charles Johnson
Maybe I can do something in my own small way to change that situation, so more people know how the conservative mainstream sees them.
The NR may appreciate the promotional bump you could give them. See if it pops up on “Fox and friends” or Billy O clutches his pearls.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 7:28:22pm |
She was probably a soccer fan! Eleventy!
Sounds like a smart think tank RT @Milbank: Participants at Heritage Benghazi event taunt Muslim woman in audience http://t.co/8RnX2KZVid— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) June 17, 2014
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:30:11pm |
re: #48 jamjam
Don’t forget that time in Chicago where they tried to “kill disco”, with the rock DJ getting people to bring in all their disco records into the game. They put them in a box, and blew them up, leaving a crater in the outfield. The game got going again - but then quickly turned into a riot.
I don’t remember the name of the incident, but it was similar to the 10 cent beer night. That is, pretty ill conceived, and ending with violence and riots.
Disco Demolition Night, at Comiskey Park in 1979. The rowdy fans caused so much commotion and damage that the White Sox were obliged to forfeit the second game of their double-header with the Detroit Tigers.
But please do remember those were White Sox fans. (North Side and the Cubs, if it takes forever!) :D
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 7:30:13pm |
re: #52 Lidane
More class and gravitas. They have binders full.
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Stanley Sea Jun 16, 2014 7:30:23pm |
At this point, give the Falc a break. He walked back big time.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 7:31:47pm |
re: #54 nines09
More class and gravitas. They have binders full.
In Heritage's defense, it has no idea what it's doing anymore.— Tim Murphy (@timothypmurphy) June 17, 2014
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jamjam Jun 16, 2014 7:32:31pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
Disco Demolition Night, at Comiskey Park in 1979. The rowdy fans caused so much commotion and damage that the White Sox were obliged to forfeit the second game of their double-header with the Detroit Tigers.But please do remember those were White Sox fans. (North Side and the Cubs, if it takes forever!) :D
ahh, that’s right ! Disco Demolition Night. What a brilliant idea that turned out to be ! Well - to be fair, I heard an interview with the DJ, he said he did his job, he packed the stadium out via the promotion. Plus, he didn’t know the fans would riot. I still maintain it was a bit ill-conceived though :)
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 7:32:40pm |
re: #56 Lidane
I think they do a great impression of ugly.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:39:32pm |
re: #57 jamjam
ahh, that’s right ! Disco Demolition Night. What a brilliant idea that turned out to be ! Well - to be fair, I heard an interview with the DJ, he said he did his job, he packed the stadium out via the promotion. Plus, he didn’t know the fans would riot. I still maintain it was a bit ill-conceived though :)
It was a classic failure to think things through. White Sox management failed to remember just how rowdy Steve Dahl’s fans were likely to be after drinking beer all throughout the first game. And Dahl knew fow to get a crowd going:
This is now officially the world’s largest anti-disco rally! Now listen—we took all the disco records you brought tonight, we got ‘em in a giant box, and we’re gonna blow ‘em up reeeeeeal goooood.
And lastly, some of it was just what has caused Chicago at times to be referred to as the Wicked City. Or in the words of corrupt alderman Michael “Hinky Dink” Kenna: “Chicago ain’t no sissy town!” I do say that with no small bit of affection as some of the rowdiness gives Chicago its character, and if it were all removed Chicago would be somewhat poorer from its absence*.
*: As long as no one gets badly hurt or killed, of course.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:41:27pm |
re: #55 Stanley Sea
At this point, give the Falc a break. He walked back big time.
Thank you for that. I goofed and when Bratwurst made clear my words were not conveying what I intended them to convey I added to them swiftly. Thank you again for your understanding.
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Timothy Watson Jun 16, 2014 7:46:25pm |
re: #13 dog philosopher
Sport of Violence, Bloodshed and Terrorism
is this an attempt to dethrone hockey from this coveted title of honor??
No, no, no, hockey is the official sport of communists.
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 7:46:43pm |
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 7:52:03pm |
Participants at Heritage Foundation's Benghazi event taunt Muslim woman in audience. http://t.co/ikVjQbwf9N— Dana Milbank (@Milbank) June 17, 2014
Weird that anti-Muslim things would happen at an event hosted by a birther who thinks Obama's goal is to implement harsh Islamic law— AdamSerwer (@AdamSerwer) June 17, 2014
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 7:55:17pm |
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:55:22pm |
And it ought to be said on this thread that the US World Cup team beat Ghana 2-1 this evening.
My Prediction: If the US makes it high enough in the World Cup tournament, the anti-soccer sneers will be replaced with chants of “U-S-A! U-S-A!” But I’m not anti soccer, so I’ll just get started early:
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 7:58:33pm |
re: #64 nines09
Meanwhile in the frozen food aisle down the street at Target…
Open Carry Tarrant County Wingnut: Still Stuck On ‘Stupid’.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 8:01:33pm |
re: #64 nines09
If you need a gun like that to shop at Target, then move.
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Stanley Sea Jun 16, 2014 8:03:49pm |
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 8:03:54pm |
re: #66 Dark_Falcon
Open Carry Tarrant County Wingnut: Still Stuck On ‘Stupid’.
They have to be scared little boys at heart. If you need a piece to shop, you are fucked in the head. Period.
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 8:05:30pm |
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 8:07:56pm |
re: #63 Gus
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Very grateful for our tremendous speakers & very engaged audience at today's Benghazi Accountability Coalition conf http://t.co/frdkkKUTZh— Andrew C. McCarthy (@AndrewCMcCarthy) June 17, 2014
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 8:08:58pm |
Heritage Hosts Birthers, Islamophobes For Benghazi “Accountability” Panel http://t.co/4pWEj6viAx @AndrewCMcCarthy— Gus (@Gus_802) June 17, 2014
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Stanley Sea Jun 16, 2014 8:09:28pm |
I don’t think I’ve purchased ice cream for 8 months. I did today.
I’m going to totally indulge and say good night y’all.
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jaunte Jun 16, 2014 8:09:41pm |
re: #64 nines09
That looks like that same idiot Kory Watkins, wearing a different hat.
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Nines All The Times Jun 16, 2014 8:09:48pm |
The Kingdom of Derp and Dipstick will still be come tomorrow. I go to recharge and renew and make noises in my sleep.
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 8:09:56pm |
“My wife is a spic, I call her a wetback sometimes,” one man said, laughing. http://t.co/YYp49WIIMk <— Koch brother meeting attendee— Lee Fang (@lhfang) June 17, 2014
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:10:19pm |
NRO just can’t help themselves with the xenophobic bullshit can they. Kind of like Limbaugh calling basketball the sport of thugs.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:10:41pm |
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 8:10:58pm |
Kristof video showing a Buddhist leader explaining support for ethnic cleansing “Muslims .. are like African catfish” http://t.co/47DBmejYH4— Lee Fang (@lhfang) June 17, 2014
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Ojoe Jun 16, 2014 8:12:16pm |
I do like baseball much better, it has more permutations than all those games that just go back and forth between goals at each end.
Bor or orrr - ing !
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jaunte Jun 16, 2014 8:12:39pm |
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andres Jun 16, 2014 8:18:40pm |
re: #76 Gus
Seems like his dog house is quite comfy. /
I don’t know what to think of this “guy”. On one hand, if he does do that, he’s quite evil for treating his wife in a way that’s beneath how anyone should be treated. On the other, if he’s empty gloating, he’s a coward who most likely lives in the dog house.
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 8:19:28pm |
imp read on #Iran: the 1953 coup that WAS NOT CIA http://t.co/l4i1g9s5RU via @ForeignAffairs— Vali Nasr (@vali_nasr) June 17, 2014
Also an improtant read. “CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup” http://t.co/A7xAqf3EkT @vali_nasr @ForeignAffairs— Gus (@Gus_802) June 17, 2014
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 8:19:52pm |
re: #79 Gus
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Anti-Muslim bigotry has become a huge problem in Myanmar, but those in government are either ignoring it or fanning the flames. The reason is that Muslims in that nation are seen as interlopers from Bangladesh, and because it provides a convenient distraction from real issues that said officials want to resolve to their own benefit.
It does need to be noted here that Islam came to the Eastern India-Bangladesh-Myanmar area as the religion of conquerors, but that should not matter too much today. Today’s Muslims in that region are in no way to blame for the actions of their ancestors. I mention this because the manner in which Islam arrived in Myanmar is part of the justification claimed for attacking it in that nation. That justification is a crock.
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andres Jun 16, 2014 8:21:35pm |
re: #80 Ojoe
I do like baseball much better, it has more permutations than all those games that just go back and forth between goals at each end.
Bor or orrr - ing !
I find soccer a bit boring. Long stretches where basically nothing is actually happening.
Baseball? I have to fight sleep to see one game.
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Decatur Deb Jun 16, 2014 8:22:54pm |
re: #85 andres
I find soccer a bit boring. Long stretches where basically nothing is actually happening.
Baseball? I have to fight sleep to see one game.
For non-stop action, you need Hurling.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:24:21pm |
re: #85 andres
I find soccer a bit boring. Long stretches where basically nothing is actually happening.
Baseball? I have to fight sleep to see one game.
I think you have to grow up on baseball to appreciate it. Not knocking you here in the slightest. I just think baseball is one of those things that if you grow up playing and or watching it as I did that you’re more likely to enjoy it. Soccer is something I’ve come to appreciate because I really like how even the smallest areas have teams and it’s intriguing to me how one’s team of choice can be tied to their socio-cultural identity. I also like how there’s virtually no commercials and appreciate the agility of the athletes. Now the one sport I’ve never gotten into is golf. That to me is the snoozefest.
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ObserverArt Jun 16, 2014 8:24:37pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
Disco Demolition Night, at Comiskey Park in 1979. The rowdy fans caused so much commotion and damage that the White Sox were obliged to forfeit the second game of their double-header with the Detroit Tigers.But please do remember those were White Sox fans. (North Side and the Cubs, if it takes forever!) :D
I don’t know if it has been mentioned (I am not caught up with the thread!) There was also the Cleveland Indians baseball team’s 10 Cent Beer Night at old Cleveland Municipal Stadium back in the late 70s. It turned into a riot/fight that started with the fans messing with the Texas Rangers outfielder that started the Rangers fighting with the fans, egged on by bad-boy manager Billy Martin. Then it just went into pure riot.
A mistake by the lake: Remembering the 10-cent Beer Night riot
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 8:25:41pm |
re: #88 ObserverArt
I don’t know if it has been mentioned (I am not caught up with the thread!) There was also the Cleveland Indians baseball team’s 10 Cent Beer Night at old Cleveland Municipal Stadium back in the late 70s. It turned into a riot/fight that started with the fans messing with the Texas Rangers outfielder that started the Rangers fighting with the fans, egged on by bad-boy manager Billy Martin. Then it just went into pure riot.
A mistake by the lake: Remembering the 10-cent Beer Night riot
It was mentioned, but your additional details are quite welcome.
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 8:25:50pm |
1964 St. Augustine Civil Rights Movement vs Ku Klux Klan http://t.co/2Ne2XRtJeZ via http://t.co/ic2rqaC5Mu pic.twitter.com/XT3OB9oLSN— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) June 17, 2014
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:25:52pm |
re: #88 ObserverArt
I don’t know if it has been mentioned (I am not caught up with the thread!) There was also the Cleveland Indians baseball team’s 10 Cent Beer Night at old Cleveland Municipal Stadium back in the late 70s. It turned into a riot/fight that started with the fans messing with the Texas Rangers outfielder that started the Rangers fighting with the fans, egged on by bad-boy manager Billy Martin. Then it just went into pure riot.
A mistake by the lake: Remembering the 10-cent Beer Night riot
Didn’t see any mention of that but I can tell you as a student of baseball history that baseball games can get just as rowdy as soccer ones. That one poor Giants fan got beaten up really badly by that Dodgers fan.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:26:52pm |
re: #90 Gus
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Nothing says I’m a schizoid like raising the CSA flag and US flag together and not realizing you look like a tool.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 8:28:51pm |
re: #87 HappyWarrior
The fastest way to get me to do anything else is to put golf on TV. It’s right up there with bowling and curling in terms of boring me to tears. Even watching those televised poker tournaments is more interesting.
Baseball is more fun when you’re actually there. Part of the fun of a baseball game is the overpriced hot dogs and sodas and getting together with friends. The actual game itself is almost secondary. Baseball on TV? Zzzzzzz.
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ObserverArt Jun 16, 2014 8:29:10pm |
re: #66 Dark_Falcon
Open Carry Tarrant County Wingnut: Still Stuck On ‘Stupid’.
Our old Buddy Kory Watkins of Open Carry Texas.
Let’s send him and the boys over seas to do some real open carry where they just become open targets.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:30:37pm |
re: #93 Lidane
The fastest way to get me to do anything else is to put golf on TV. It’s right up there with bowling and curling in terms of boring me to tears. Even watching those televised poker tournaments is more interesting.
Baseball is more fun when you’re actually there. Part of the fun of a baseball game is the overpriced hot dogs and sodas and getting together with friends. The actual game itself is almost secondary. Baseball on TV? Zzzzzzz.
Yeah baseball’s definitely something that’s more fun live but I do like watching it on TV. I think it helps that I played for close to a decade and have a large knowledge of the game. But yeah golfing, bowling, and curling are just snoozefests. Don’t get the point of even showing those on TV. Another one that bores me is auto racing. Just doesn’t do it for me.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 16, 2014 8:35:05pm |
re: #95 HappyWarrior
Yeah baseball’s definitely something that’s more fun live but I do like watching it on TV. I think it helps that I played for close to a decade and have a large knowledge of the game. But yeah golfing, bowling, and curling are just snoozefests. Don’t get the point of even showing those on TV. Another one that bores me is auto racing. Just doesn’t do it for me.
There are some sports that are just more fun when you do them. Watching them (unless you’re an avid player), not so much.
Here in China, the national sports channel, CCTV5, plays almost every sport possible: snooker, curling, ping pong, basketball, golf, soccer, badminton, tennis, sometimes F1 — but not NASCAR, baseball or American football.
Damn Commies!!
//
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 8:35:33pm |
re: #95 HappyWarrior
Another one that bores me is auto racing. Just doesn’t do it for me.
NASCAR makes me want to spork my eyes out. Or at least listen to real country music instead of the overly manufactured shit that’s on the radio now.
After watching Formula 1 the other day, OTOH, I want to go to a race. Once I start working again I’m going to try and get out to the track here in Austin sometime. I’d like to see it live.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 8:36:10pm |
re: #79 Gus
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I need to email a link to an article to someone else here. It’s about Hillary Clinton regarding Myanmar and its not positive. But its also on foreignpolicy.com, which is not a wingnut site.
If I post that article here, all I’ll get is downdinged about 12 times. I think it has value, but I don’t want to post it if it will only tick people off. So could someone please email me so I can send them the link to review? Nic is blue.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:36:27pm |
re: #97 Lidane
NASCAR makes me want to spork my eyes out. Or at least listen to real country music instead of the overly manufactured shit that’s on the radio now.
After watching Formula 1 the other day, OTOH, I want to go to a race. Once I start working again I’m going to try and get out to the track here in Austin sometime. I’d like to see it live.
Yeah people tell me that Formula one is totally different than NASCAR.
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Ojoe Jun 16, 2014 8:36:46pm |
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 16, 2014 8:37:46pm |
re: #99 HappyWarrior
Yeah people tell me that Formula one is totally different than NASCAR.
Sometimes the cars have to make a right turn.
/
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:37:58pm |
re: #100 Ojoe
Irish road bowling !
Photo:
That looks interesting. Bowling is one of those that is definitely more fun to play than to watch mostly because you can just get a pitcher of beer and some finger food and just shoot the shit.
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ObserverArt Jun 16, 2014 8:38:08pm |
I like baseball for background entertainment while doing other stuff. You can just be motoring along and all of a sudden you hear the crack of the bat, or a crowd roar, or the talking head going nuts and then you watch or listen. Every once in a while you turn and look at the score. It’s been said it is the true hot summer sport…slow and languid, just like the pace of the hot humid days in the sun.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:38:09pm |
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 8:42:45pm |
re: #101 wheat-dogghazi
Sometimes the cars have to make a right turn.
/
They also openly flaunt their wealth instead of doing the fake “Aw, shucks ma’am” redneck thing. Formula 1 teams aren’t limited to stock parts.
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ObserverArt Jun 16, 2014 8:43:10pm |
re: #97 Lidane
NASCAR makes me want to spork my eyes out. Or at least listen to real country music instead of the overly manufactured shit that’s on the radio now.
After watching Formula 1 the other day, OTOH, I want to go to a race. Once I start working again I’m going to try and get out to the track here in Austin sometime. I’d like to see it live.
I’ve been to many US Grand Prix. Like you, I’m rebuilding business…but I too want to make it Circuit of the Americas in Austin for the new US GP. It is the true corporate art of sport. Multimillion dollar cars in a hundreds of million dollar sport. The sport of Capitalists. I love the technology, and every race I’ve been to is colorful and full of people from all around the world.
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Kid A Jun 16, 2014 8:44:36pm |
re: #103 ObserverArt
Baseball for me is the ultimate relaxation; it has a lazy, timeless feel. No clock, each park is different, etc. And one of my favorite players of all time died today. Godspeed, Tony.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:46:01pm |
re: #108 Kid A
Baseball for me is the ultimate relaxation; it has a lazy, timeless feel. No clock, each park is different, etc. And one of my favorite players of all time died today. Godspeed, Tony.
Hated hearing about Tony today. He went in the HoF with my childhood hero, Ripken. 54 is too damn young. Great guy. I remember loving when him and Cal went in together since these were two guys that spent their whole career with the same team and for them to do that in the age of free agency was really impressive.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 16, 2014 8:46:06pm |
re: #106 Lidane
They also openly flaunt their wealth instead of doing the fake “Aw, shucks ma’am” redneck thing. Formula 1 teams aren’t limited to stock parts.
NASCAR is the auto sport version of Duck Dynasty. Good ol’ boys driving multi-million-dollar cars that have only a passing connection to the stock models, festooned with decals of their corporate sponsors.
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Kid A Jun 16, 2014 8:48:27pm |
re: #109 HappyWarrior
Cancer of the jaw killed Tony. All those years of chewing tobacco caught up with him. Ban all of it, I’m serious.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 8:49:42pm |
re: #111 Kid A
Cancer of the jaw killed Tony. All those years of chewing tobacco caught up with him. Ban all of it, I’m serious.
I hadn’t even known he was sick. Just awful. Agree though. Nasty habit that kills them young. It was throat cancer that did in Babe Ruth.
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 8:50:46pm |
re: #110 wheat-dogghazi
NASCAR is the auto sport version of Duck Dynasty. Good ol’ boys driving multi-million-dollar cars that have only a passing connection to the stock models, festooned with decals of their corporate sponsors.
And in both cases, they go out of their way to appeal to the yokels who think that using a certain brand of motor oil will turn them into the next Dale Earnhardt Jr.
At least Formula 1 is honest. With F1, you know that without millions of dollars of technology and training behind you, you will never be a pro driver. Ever.
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ObserverArt Jun 16, 2014 8:52:37pm |
Top level Formula One auto racing is very much like any high tech industry. It has aspects of auto manufacture, airplane/aerodynamics, space exploration technology, etc. Some teams are 100 employees strong. The driver is the pilot…pushing limits like any test pilot.
At one time, Indycar racing in America was getting on that level, but that all changed and like mentioned for NASCAR is now spec racing too. NASCAR is American reality entertainment racing. It has it niche, but expensive cars is not it. It’s about the drivers and drama.
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Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH Jun 16, 2014 8:53:06pm |
“Give me all your money … I’ve got a soccer ball!”
“Shit, Ian, that’s a Spalding. He’s serious!”
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 16, 2014 8:58:41pm |
re: #115 Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH
“Give me all your money … I’ve got a soccer ball!”
“Shit, Ian, that’s a Spalding. He’s serious!”
Wide-eyed and unshaven men charge you while screaming “WILSON!!!!”
O_O
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Lidane Jun 16, 2014 9:01:53pm |
re: #111 Kid A
Cancer of the jaw killed Tony. All those years of chewing tobacco caught up with him. Ban all of it, I’m serious.
I have a special and longstanding hatred of chewing tobacco. It’s an immediate dealbreaker for me when deciding if a guy is attractive or not. Spit cups are vile and disgusting and so so so gross.
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 16, 2014 9:05:24pm |
re: #95 HappyWarrior
Yeah baseball’s definitely something that’s more fun live but I do like watching it on TV. I think it helps that I played for close to a decade and have a large knowledge of the game. But yeah golfing, bowling, and curling are just snoozefests. Don’t get the point of even showing those on TV. Another one that bores me is auto racing. Just doesn’t do it for me.
If I’m driving at night during baseball season, my first radio move is try to find a baseball game to listen to.
Dunno know why, as it’s rare for me to watch MLB on TV.
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 9:11:57pm |
I'm a meme. I think the internet now officially owns my soul pic.twitter.com/yFVkJyFNcP— Jim Wright (@Stonekettle) June 17, 2014
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 9:16:44pm |
That so many people that hate Islam want to “help” in Iraq considering the sectarian issues there is mind boggling. OK, sinister. Creepy.
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Eclectic Cyborg Jun 16, 2014 9:20:52pm |
re: #120 Gus
That so many people that hate Islam want to “help” in Iraq considering the sectarian issues there is mind boggling. OK, sinister. Creepy.
They don’t understand the politics, they think all middle eastern brown people are terrorists hellbent on destroying on America and must be stopped.
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 9:27:46pm |
Ari Fleishcer: Obama Decision on Iraq is Right One (2011) http://t.co/lGFL2vZ1qB— Gus (@Gus_802) June 17, 2014
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Interesting Times Jun 16, 2014 9:28:59pm |
re: #76 Gus
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I clicked through and read the whole article, several times. And it only got more horrifying. This is like living in a dystopia with all the uber-wealthy psychos but none of the cool robots and interstellar space travel :/
(come to think of it, do the koch brothers stand to profit from the US going back into Iraq? They must, given all the GOP bleating for intervention…)
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ssn697 Jun 16, 2014 9:34:30pm |
I’ve never EVER heard of someone being killed at an NFL game. Well, other than all those times…
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bratwurst Jun 16, 2014 9:35:53pm |
Breaking: The GOP’s official Hillary-hating squirrel (with its very own Twitter account) is, in fact, the same giant squirrel suit from their anti-ACORN campaign of 2008!
They may be bereft of ideas and legitimate national candidates, but at least they are recycling!
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Gus Jun 16, 2014 9:40:55pm |
“Ohhh! So now you like The Nation!”
I actually subscribed to them way back.
We’ve recently gone through a Hate Week or two ourselves. Only months ago, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the last POW in Afghanistan, had been valorized by the right. Senators McCain, Ayotte and Inhofe, Sarah Palin and Allen West and right-wing websites wanted Bergdahl freed at all costs, and blamed Obama for leaving him behind.
See “right wing.” :D
Link: thenation.com
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SteveMcGazi Jun 16, 2014 9:41:00pm |
re: #85 andres
I find soccer a bit boring. Long stretches where basically nothing is actually happening.
Baseball? I have to fight sleep to see one game.
In baseball, any pitch can turn into a home run. Having said that, I prefer a pitcher’s duel anyday of the week.
There are a couple of things that confound me about soccer. A goal kick is almost uniformly blasted about 75 yards down the field, and is effectively a jump ball. What that tells me is that the 50/50 chance of recovering the goal kick downfield is still better the odds of bringing the ball up yourself (like you might see in hockey). And is spite of the fact that the goal is as big as a barn, it’s almost impossible to score a goal when the game is played the way it should be. I like defense but this is ridiculous.
My daughter was an excellent goalie because she wore a fluorescent green shirt and the other time unfailingly kicked the ball right into her chest!
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Charles Johnson Jun 16, 2014 9:42:25pm |
Again, a reminder to my followers: if ‘ChenZhen’ or ‘Gus_807? suddenly intrudes on your mentions, be aware that they’re obsessive stalkers.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 17, 2014
I strongly recommend blocking and reporting these psychos. They’ve been harassing my followers and friends for years.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 17, 2014
Yes, they’re at it again.
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HappyWarrior Jun 16, 2014 9:43:29pm |
re: #128 Gus
“Ohhh! So now you like The Nation!”
I actually subscribed to them way back.
We’ve recently gone through a Hate Week or two ourselves. Only months ago, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the last POW in Afghanistan, had been valorized by the right. Senators McCain, Ayotte and Inhofe, Sarah Palin and Allen West and right-wing websites wanted Bergdahl freed at all costs, and blamed Obama for leaving him behind.
See “right wing.” :D
Link: thenation.com
They were for freeing Bergdahl until Obama actually did it.
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Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH Jun 16, 2014 9:43:58pm |
re: #129 SteveMcGazi
There are a couple of things that confound me about soccer. A goal kick is almost uniformly blasted about 75 yards down the field, and is effectively a jump ball. What that tells me is that the 50/50 chance of recovering the goal kick downfield is still better the odds of bringing the ball up yourself (like you might see in hockey). And is spite of the fact that the goal is as big as a barn, it’s almost impossible to score a goal when the game is played the way it should be.
The problem with soccer is that there are too many people on the field.
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Eclectic Cyborg Jun 16, 2014 9:44:07pm |
re: #131 Charles Johnson
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Yes, they’re at it again.
How has Gus_807 not been banned yet?
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SteveMcGazi Jun 16, 2014 9:45:03pm |
re: #133 Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH
The problem with soccer is that there are too many people on the field.
Maybe if they used two soccer balls.
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Dark_Falcon Jun 16, 2014 9:46:52pm |
re: #123 Interesting Times
I clicked through and read the whole article, several times. And it only got more horrifying. This is like living in a dystopia with all the uber-wealthy psychos but none of the cool robots and interstellar space travel :/
(come to think of it, do the koch brothers stand to profit from the US going back into Iraq? They must, given all the GOP bleating for intervention…)
Actually they likely would not. Their money is in the refining of petrochemicals, for the most part and if they aren’t refining Iraqi oil then this wouldn’t effect them too much.
Moreover, the lead Republicans trying to get America to launch air strikes on ISIS are John McCain and Lindsey Graham, neither of whom are within the same orbit as Charles and David Koch. Which is not to say that Americans for Prosperity didn’t help fund Graham’s primary campaign, but on an issue like this both of those two senators will commit of their own volition.
(Not an exact answer, I know, but the best I can do late at night.)
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Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH Jun 16, 2014 9:48:08pm |
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Charles Johnson Jun 16, 2014 9:49:01pm |
re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg
How has Gus_807 not been banned yet?
Good question. He actually has been suspended more than once, but Twitter keeps reinstating his account — and he just keeps doing the same thing.
Twitter obviously doesn’t consider stalking important enough to take real measures to stop it.
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Sophist, D.D., DDS, DFH Jun 16, 2014 9:51:08pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
Good question. He actually has been suspended more than once, but Twitter keeps reinstating his account — and he just keeps doing the same thing.
Twitter obviously doesn’t consider stalking important enough to take real measures to stop it.
Look, they covered their asses by issuing brief pro forma suspensions every now and again. What more could you ask?
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sagehen Jun 16, 2014 10:00:31pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 16, 2014 10:53:26pm |
Lmao makes me weak everytime pic.twitter.com/UfXm60Nr2u— Nika (@phiIosophies_un) June 16, 2014
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palomino Jun 16, 2014 11:10:51pm |
Here’s the article’s logic: The world has lots of serious problems. Soccer is globally popular. Therefore, soccer must have something to do with how fucked up the world is.
The author doesn’t even know shit about the sport. He ridicules it for being so long (“all 12 hours of a soccer match”). Actually, all 4 American pro team sports have longer games…usually much longer. A non-overtime soccer match is always less than two hours, because there are no timeouts. Even an OT game is almost always less than 3 hours. Which makes soccer shorter than all football games, and most baseball, hockey and basketball games.
But who can expect an author to do such extensive research?
And I think the author is trying to be funny, but nearly all his soccer “jokes” were much funnier 35 years ago when we first heard them.
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palomino Jun 16, 2014 11:15:00pm |
re: #136 Dark_Falcon
Actually they likely would not. Their money is in the refining of petrochemicals, for the most part and if they aren’t refining Iraqi oil then this wouldn’t effect them too much.
Moreover, the lead Republicans trying to get America to launch air strikes on ISIS are John McCain and Lindsey Graham, neither of whom are within the same orbit as Charles and David Koch. Which is not to say that Americans for Prosperity didn’t help fund Graham’s primary campaign, but on an issue like this both of those two senators will commit of their own volition.
(Not an exact answer, I know, but the best I can do late at night.)
Aren’t Graham and McCain pretty much the lead Republicans when it comes to any kind of military intervention?
Seriously, did either of those guys ever meet a war he didn’t like?
Their constant banging of war drums over nearly everything has become counterproductive, even laughable at times when they claim catastrophe will occur if we don’t attack X, then make the same argument the next week about Y, then the following week about Z. Most people have caught on that their predictions of Armageddon are slightly exaggerated. They’ve turned themselves into little boys crying wolf.
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RadicalModerate Jun 16, 2014 11:37:29pm |
re: #146 palomino
Here’s the article’s logic: The world has lots of serious problems. Soccer is globally popular. Therefore, soccer must have something to do with how fucked up the world is.
The author doesn’t even know shit about the sport. He ridicules it for being so long (“all 12 hours of a soccer match”). Actually, all 4 American pro team sports have longer games…usually much longer. A non-overtime soccer match is always less than two hours, because there are no timeouts. Even an OT game is almost always less than 3 hours. Which makes soccer shorter than all football games, and most baseball, hockey and basketball games.
But who can expect an author to do such extensive research?
And I think the author is trying to be funny, but nearly all his soccer “jokes” were much funnier 35 years ago when we first heard them.
Don’t forget that vast majority of the hooligans from European soccer are the far-right “Ultras” that have almost identical political beliefs as your typical Tea Partier/SoCon.
Nationalistic? Check.
Anti-Immigration? Check
Engage in intimidation tactics, involving weapons? Check.
Blatantly racist? Yep.
A simple Youtube search of “ultras nationalists” will yield literally thousands of videos.
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Kragar Jun 16, 2014 11:49:29pm |
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Mentis Fugit Jun 16, 2014 11:50:14pm |
re: #87 HappyWarrior
I think you have to grow up on baseball to appreciate it.
s/baseball/cricket/
Just putting that out there.
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Varek Raith Jun 17, 2014 12:29:52am |
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 12:48:11am |
“OK, if I pose in the submarine, you're sure I won't look like a mad Bond villain?” ”It'll be fine, Supreme Leader” pic.twitter.com/fWJhYBZam4— Stig Abell (@StigAbell) June 16, 2014
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Varek Raith Jun 17, 2014 12:54:29am |
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sagehen Jun 17, 2014 12:56:28am |
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sagehen Jun 17, 2014 1:29:55am |
24 spoilers
The Assange-ish character turns out is a bad guy. Definitely, incontrovertibly, EEEVIL. He’s conspiring with the CIA station chief to sell American secrets to China… then got the CIA station chief to frame one of his agents for it. And to try to kill another of his agents who’s about to figure it out. Also, Assange avatar is using/manipulating/betraying Snowdon avatar.
The President gave in to the terrorist demands. They’ve droned London with four missiles already, they have several more drones (with four missiles each) on the way, unless the President gives himself up to be killed in reprisal for droning the terrorist’s husband last year. And the President does it. (First he signs a resignation letter, so he won’t be killed in office. And a few minutes before that, he signed a pardon for Jack for the stuff Jack did that’s had him on the run since the series previously aired.)
President Heller is played by the same actor who was President Hayes on Stargate. Which is about the umpteenth reason someone must write a novel-length crossover 24/SG fanfic.
Chloe Snowdon Lisbeth is still awesome. Audrey is still irritating. Framed Agent’s Wife is Jack’s helper monkey, highly competent but a bit of a whiner. Jack’s other helper monkey, the Bosnian War Criminal, was useful in the early eps, hasn’t been seen for a couple of hours, but I’m assuming he’s Chekhov’s Rifle On The Mantle. And then he’ll die.
There’s four hours left.
Jack is still always right. People who don’t believe him, or are even a little bit skeptical, will regret it. And when he tortures somebody, it’s the right person every time and they give up the information immediately.
Kiefer Sutherland is still the sexiest man on television.
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Teukka Jun 17, 2014 2:16:51am |
I hope this isn’t too off-topic for this thread, but this just passed by my facebook stream:
Tense encounter between open-carry advocate and Kalamazoo police detailed in recordings, reports
Is it just me, or are these kinds of becoming too regular occurences on your side of the pond?
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 2:22:35am |
re: #149 RadicalModerate
Don’t forget that vast majority of the hooligans from European soccer are the far-right “Ultras” that have almost identical political beliefs as your typical Tea Partier/SoCon.
Nationalistic? Check.
Anti-Immigration? Check
Engage in intimidation tactics, involving weapons? Check.
Blatantly racist? Yep.A simple Youtube search of “ultras nationalists” will yield literally thousands of videos.
That pretty much nails it; most of the problems with rioting football fans here in Europe can be put right on the doorstep of the Ultras. There was a small-scale riot here in Ostrava a month or so back, and again, it was the handiwork of Ostrava Banik (the name of the local club) Ultras.
I’ll go to a game when the weather’s nice - it’s a nice way to get out of the house - but I’m very selective as to which games I’ll attend. I will avoid like the plague any match between Ostrava Banik and Praha Sparta, because if there’s gonna be a riot, that’s where it will start, as the Ultras from both teams tend to show up owing to a hardcore rivalry.
And, morning all.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 2:28:12am |
re: #158 Teukka
Is it just me, or are these kinds of becoming too regular occurences on your side of the pond?
They’re becoming too regular. And they’re being done by idiots who are doing their cause more harm than good. There is no reason for anyone anywhere to go grocery shopping or whatever with a long gun openly strapped to their body. This isn’t Somalia, for fuck’s sake.
I’ve seen the open carry morons here in Austin walking around with their flags and their AR-15s strapped to their bodies. They look like tools. And none of them can offer a logical explanation for why they need their penis extension on full display for the rest of us to see. What are they going to do if someone mugs them? Open fire on a public street with a high powered rifle? There’s no guarantee that whoever they’re aiming at will stand still, or that their body would stop the bullet. If they hit anyone else, it’s on them.
If you want to protect yourself and you feel the need to have a gun, get a concealed carry license. Open carry is just stupid.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 2:34:39am |
re: #160 Lidane
Pretend “alpha males” will eventually meet up with real alpha males.
Why have a police force when everyone is permitted to carry around a weapon like that?
And it eventually deteriorates into chaos.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 2:39:38am |
re: #159 Dr Lizardo
That pretty much nails it; most of the problems with rioting football fans here in Europe can be put right on the doorstep of the Ultras. There was a small-scale riot here in Ostrava a month or so back, and again, it was the handiwork of Ostrava Banik (the name of the local club) Ultras.
I’ll go to a game when the weather’s nice - it’s a nice way to get out of the house - but I’m very selective as to which games I’ll attend. I will avoid like the plague any match between Ostrava Banik and Praha Sparta, because if there’s gonna be a riot, that’s where it will start, as the Ultras from both teams tend to show up owing to a hardcore rivalry.
And, morning all.
Yes, I remember reading about the “ultras” when Ukraine first erupted.
Just another manifestation of the frustrated “alpha male” syndrome, I think.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 3:03:35am |
Oh my. Did I kill the thread?
I thought this was a pretty interesting article and good advice. I learned about assertiveness v aggressive behavior 40 years ago. People still don’t understand the difference, though.
Don’t Be a Dick: The False Virtues of the Classic Alpha Male
I’ve always thought that the most interesting men were non-alpha types. Alphas can be very predictable; sometimes you almost know they are alphas just by their occupation to which they tend to gravitate.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 3:09:15am |
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 3:20:20am |
It just keeps getting better. Can’t wait to see this movie:
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andres Jun 17, 2014 3:20:48am |
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 3:49:34am |
Hmmm…….my local theater is going to be showing 2001: A Space Odyssey next month. I’ve never seen it on the big screen.
Might have to go check that out.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 17, 2014 4:23:00am |
re: #167 Dr Lizardo
Hmmm…….my local theater is going to be showing 2001: A Space Odyssey next month. I’ve never seen it on the big screen.
Might have to go check that out.
There are a few movies that have to be seen on the big screen to be appreciated, The Big Lebowski and Dances with Wolves come to mind immediately
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 4:30:56am |
My daughter just posted this on Facebook:
Teen cancer patient’s family becomes homeless due to overwhelming medical bills.
I thought ACA was supposed to prevent things like this from happening?
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 4:31:53am |
re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
There are a few movies that have to be seen on the big screen to be appreciated, The Big Lebowski and Dances with Wolves come to mind immediately
Gravity and Avatar. They totally suck unless you watch in IMAX 3D.
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Shiplord Kirel Jun 17, 2014 4:38:20am |
The right wing has been targeting soccer for quite a while now. Lubbock radio yakker Robert Pratt, for example, refers to it as “communist football” and has done so for a number of years.
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sagehen Jun 17, 2014 4:41:15am |
re: #167 Dr Lizardo
Hmmm…….my local theater is going to be showing 2001: A Space Odyssey next month. I’ve never seen it on the big screen.
Might have to go check that out.
I can’t let you do that, Dave.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 4:44:37am |
re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
There are a few movies that have to be seen on the big screen to be appreciated, The Big Lebowski and Dances with Wolves come to mind immediately
Yep. I’ve seen 2001 a few times, but it is one of those films that need to be seen on the big screen in order to be properly appreciated, such as the ones you mentioned.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 4:46:59am |
re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord
Gravity and Avatar. They totally suck unless you watch in IMAX 3D.
Definitely Avatar. It’s somewhat mediocre unless seen in IMAX 3D.
Seeing it in 2D? I saw that as well. My girlfriend at that time thought it was “the greatest film ever made”.
Yeah……I dumped her shortly after that.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 4:48:02am |
re: #174 Dr Lizardo
Definitely Avatar. It’s somewhat mediocre unless seen in IMAX 3D.
Seeing it in 2D? I saw that as well. My girlfriend at that time thought it was “the greatest film ever made”.
Yeah……I dumped her shortly after that.
The plot and dialogue of Gravity and Avatar are really lame without the 3D eye candy.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 4:48:42am |
re: #171 Shiplord Kirel
The right wing has been targeting soccer for quite a while now. Lubbock radio yakker Robert Pratt, for example, refers to it as “communist football” and has done so for a number of years.
They also tend to pull out the REAL MEN PLAY FOOTBALL canard, saying that soccer’s a sport for guys who are too weak/effeminate/gay/etc. to play a man’s game. Or something. It’s something they equate with libruls and the PC gender equity crowd. It’s stupid.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 17, 2014 4:49:08am |
re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord
The plot and dialogue of Gravity and Avatar are really lame without the 3D eye candy.
And that goes double/triple for 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow
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sagehen Jun 17, 2014 4:49:08am |
re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord
My daughter just posted this on Facebook:
Teen cancer patient’s family becomes homeless due to overwhelming medical bills.I thought ACA was supposed to prevent things like this from happening?
It says she was diagnosed more than three years ago; ACA hadn’t kicked in yet. The first year or more of her treatment was probably out of pocket. Even if insurance covered it, there’s traveling back and forth and her parents taking time off work (my dad had the same treatment in 1992 — it was only offered in San Francisco, it needs an MRI and a supercomputer and an elaborate array of thingmajigs that shoot two-molecules-wide radiation beams from sixteen different directions all to the same target point…)
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 4:50:42am |
re: #176 Lidane
They also tend to pull out the REAL MEN PLAY FOOTBALL canard, saying that soccer’s a sport for guys who are too weak/effeminate/gay/etc. to play a man’s game. Or something. It’s something they equate with libruls and the PC gender equity crowd. It’s stupid.
I’ll bet the same guys wouldn’t play rugby.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 17, 2014 4:51:21am |
re: #176 Lidane
They also tend to pull out the REAL MEN PLAY FOOTBALL canard, saying that soccer’s a sport for guys who are too weak/effeminate/gay/etc. to play a man’s game. Or something. It’s something they equate with libruls and the PC gender equity crowd. It’s stupid.
Real men put on 25 pounds of protective gear!
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:06:57am |
re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Soccer is a sport for people who can run up and down a large field and not get tired.
I’d like to see how many of these manly men can run for 2-3 hours and not collapse halfway through.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 5:06:59am |
Scores of Iraqis killed during a battle for Baquba, the capital of Diyala province north of Baghdad - @Reuters
End of alert
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 5:10:47am |
re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
And that goes double/triple for 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow
True enough, but with the disaster film genre, I sort of expect laughable dialogue and utterly implausible situations.
I like what Roger Ebert wrote in his review for 2012;
It’s not so much that the Earth is destroyed, but that it’s done so thoroughly. “2012,” the mother of all disaster movies (and the father, and the extended family) spends half an hour on ominous set-up scenes (scientists warn, strange events occur, prophets rant and of course a family is introduced) and then unleashes two hours of cataclysmic special events hammering the Earth relentlessly.
This is fun. “2012” delivers what it promises, and since no sentient being will buy a ticket expecting anything else, it will be, for its audiences, one of the most satisfactory films of the year. It even has real actors in it. Like all the best disaster movies, it’s funniest at its most hysterical. You think you’ve seen end-of-the-world movies? This one ends the world, stomps on it, grinds it up and spits it out.
That pretty much nailed it. I miss Roger Ebert’s reviews, which were insightful and often quite humorous.
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Sjef Jun 17, 2014 5:10:59am |
Hello LGF! Hubby and I just got back from holiday in Portugal and had a great time. I hope all of you have been well. Will try to be more active around here, it’s a bit hard when you’re out in the countryside with no internets. Best to everyone.
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ObserverArt Jun 17, 2014 5:11:47am |
re: #178 sagehen
It says she was diagnosed more than three years ago; ACA hadn’t kicked in yet. The first year or more of her treatment was probably out of pocket. Even if insurance covered it, there’s traveling back and forth and her parents taking time off work (my dad had the same treatment in 1992 — it was only offered in San Francisco, it needs an MRI and a supercomputer and an elaborate array of thingmajigs that shoot two-molecules-wide radiation beams from sixteen different directions all to the same target point…)
What about a legacy grandfathered policy that was allowed in for this year. Aren’t they under the old limits? Or, do they have unlimited, non-cancel automatically now too?
By the way…morning all!
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 5:13:05am |
re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord
The plot and dialogue of Gravity and Avatar are really lame without the 3D eye candy.
Yep. Avatar in particular is an exercise in mediocrity from a plot and dialogue perspective.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 5:18:24am |
WTF?
Iraqi cabinet blames Saudi Arabia for current wave of violence in Iraq - @Reuters
End of alert
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Flounder Jun 17, 2014 5:18:32am |
re: #187 Justanotherhuman
Rugby is a lot of fun, but I would never do it again. I played in college and they nicknamed me Paisley. I was in it for the parties and nekkid beer slides.
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SteveMcGazi Jun 17, 2014 5:19:52am |
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:20:19am |
re: #186 Dr Lizardo
Yep. Avatar in particular is an exercise in mediocrity from a plot and dialogue perspective.
Avatar is a remake of every movie featuring a white guy saving the native people, but with 12-foot-tall blue native people.
In 3D!!
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 5:20:41am |
Does this mean we’ll be hearing more about selfish libertarianism?
Dave Brat at rotary club event in Richmond, Va.: ‘We’ve got a message of economic prosperity that we’re going to share with central Virginians across the district over the coming weeks’ - @NBCNews
End of alert
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:22:02am |
re: #192 Justanotherhuman
Does this mean we’ll be hearing more about selfish libertarianism?
Dave Brat at rotary club event in Richmond, Va.: ‘We’ve got a message of economic prosperity that we’re going to share with central Virginians across the district over the coming weeks’ - @NBCNews
End of alert
Sounds like a promotion for an MLM spiel.
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makeitstop Jun 17, 2014 5:23:23am |
re: #193 wheat-dogghazi
Sounds like a promotion for an MLM spiel.
Dave Brat sells only the finest snake oil.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:28:39am |
re: #194 makeitstop
Dave Brat sells only the finest snake oil.
When I see his photos, I am reminded of a fast-talking 1920s tycoon.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 5:28:59am |
re: #191 wheat-dogghazi
Avatar is a remake of every movie featuring a white guy saving the native people, but with 12-foot-tall blue native people.
In 3D!!
Dances With Wolves In Space
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 5:29:08am |
re: #191 wheat-dogghazi
Avatar is a remake of every movie featuring a white guy saving the native people, but with 12-foot-tall blue native people.
In 3D!!
Dances With Wolves + Pocahontas in outer space!
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Flounder Jun 17, 2014 5:29:26am |
re: #163 Justanotherhuman
Thank you for posting that. There is a lot there and I tend to have a short attention span, but I have been practicing this for years:
2. Cultivate mutual respect
The alpha 2.0 recognizes that every individual deserves respect, regardless of rank, gender, nationality, education, political views or corporate allegiance. He shows respect to others because they are human, not because of their enviable accolades or clout.What does this get you? Showing respect to everyone avoids all the various downfalls of rankism. Belittling others creates bitterness and resentment throughout the hierarchy. This resentment is harbored primarily by those who are disrespected. But it also has an impact on those who witness you being disrespectful or hear of your rankism through the grapevine (imagine how you’d feel if a date was incredibly rude to a server at a restaurant).
By showing respect to everyone-be they workers in the mailroom or high-powered foreign dignitaries-they will be more inclined to put forth a good faith effort on your behalf. Otherwise, they may not put in that extra hustle to get your package in the mail by 4:59 PM, or speak up when they hear someone malign you behind your back in the elevator.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 5:30:51am |
I watched “The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug” in 3D and was disappointed. I must have had a bad pair of glasses because the colors looked all washed out, almost like a black & white movie.
I’m going to watch it again at home on Blu-Ray.
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Mattand Jun 17, 2014 5:33:18am |
re: #184 Sjef
Hello LGF! Hubby and I just got back from holiday in Portugal and had a great time. I hope all of you have been well. Will try to be more active around here, it’s a bit hard when you’re out in the countryside with no internets. Best to everyone.
Two words: carrier pigeons.
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Mattand Jun 17, 2014 5:34:43am |
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 5:36:42am |
re: #191 wheat-dogghazi
Avatar is a remake of every movie featuring a white guy saving the native people, but with 12-foot-tall blue native people.
In 3D!!
I have bad luck with James Cameron films.
I saw Titanic with a girlfriend of mine back when it came out. It was a bad sign when she’d gone to see it seven times before taking me with her. We got there halfway through the previews and ended up at the back of the theater jammed into a corner. I had a bunch of people to my left all mouthing along with the film word for word and crying over Rose and Jack. Worse, I figured out the “plot twist” before Kate Winslet was ever on camera. It was torture. Three hours of waiting for Leo DiCaprio to die and for the old woman to have the necklace all along. ARGH.
I saw Avatar in 3D. Aside from the shitty, obvious plot and terrible dialogue, that movie gave me simulation sickness. I literally felt like I was going to die. I was so sick walking out of the theater. It was awful.
Never again. James Cameron will have to pay me to see his movies.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:37:49am |
re: #201 Mattand
North Korea has a submarine?
Seriously?
Probably surplus from Russia or China.
I wouldn’t want to be inside one at depth.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:42:10am |
re: #202 Lidane
I saw Titanic in the theater when it first came out, and found it entertaining. Smaltzy, by-the-numbers romantic tragedy with a soupçon of historical accuracy. (Oh, so the ship split in two on the way down!)
When I saw the 25th anniversary 3D version, I was less impressed. Maybe it was all those hundreds of times hearing the damn Celine Dion theme song.
The Chinese LOVE them some Celine Dion and My Heart Will Go On and On and On and On.
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 5:44:57am |
re: #9 bratwurst
Philadelphia, cradle of US democracy, birthplace of idiot sports fans who will boo Santa Claus, attack kids, and for which they had to build a jail in their stadiums to deal with the constant hooliganism.
More people around the world are involved and devoted to soccer/football than any other sport out there. Is it possible that some might use it as an opportunity to attack and engage in violence? Absolutely. Terrorists use gatherings of soccer fans as an easy target to hit, as they did in Kenya just hours ago.
The duration of matches isn’t that big a deal since the matches run shorter than most Yankee games.
Scoring an issue? 1-0 can be more intense than a slugfest in baseball, or a romp in football. It’s the same with hockey; a well played and defended game is thing of art - especially if there’s lots of shots on goal and the goalie has to turn into Shiva to block shots from all angles.
But this article has no redeeming value except to indicate that NRO is past its expiration date.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 5:45:33am |
re: #202 Lidane
I saw Avatar in 3D w/my grandson. I thought the plot was just more imperialistic bullshit, except in space. And really, inter-species sex, as if there are still only 2 kinds everywhere in space?
If there is life on other planets—and there could be, considering the vast numbers of stars out there—thinking they would necessarily be like humans is probably presumptuous.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 5:46:52am |
re: #202 Lidane
I have bad luck with James Cameron films.
I saw Titanic with a girlfriend of mine back when it came out. It was a bad sign when she’d gone to see it seven times before taking me with her. We got there halfway through the previews and ended up at the back of the theater jammed into a corner. I had a bunch of people to my left all mouthing along with the film word for word and crying over Rose and Jack. Worse, I figured out the “plot twist” before Kate Winslet was ever on camera. It was torture. Three hours of waiting for Leo DiCaprio to die and for the old woman to have the necklace all along. ARGH.
I saw Avatar in 3D. Aside from the shitty, obvious plot and terrible dialogue, that movie gave me simulation sickness. I literally felt like I was going to die. I was so sick walking out of the theater. It was awful.
Never again. James Cameron will have to pay me to see his movies.
James Cameron is good at visual spectacle, no doubt about that. Titanic certainly didn’t deserve Best Film - L.A. Confidential was vastly superior in almost every other aspect. I would’ve awarded Titanic an Oscar for visual effects and production design, but that’s about it.
But then again, Stanley Kubrick had him beat. When I’ve been told that Avatar is the “greatest sci-fi movie EVER!!” I usually say, “Bullshit - watch this”
In that little snippet, Kubrick (and Arthur C. Clarke) create a more powerful piece of cinema - all without saying a damned word - than Cameron has ever done. Though I will Cameron props for the first Terminator film.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 17, 2014 5:47:39am |
re: #206 Justanotherhuman
If there is life on other planets—and there could be, considering the vast numbers of stars out there—thinking they would necessarily be like humans is probably presumptuous.
Making them humanoid just means it is easier to use motion-capture CGI techniques with live actors.
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Kid A Jun 17, 2014 5:48:30am |
@bgstarbird @NRO Uh, how about those death threats to one Steve Bartman?— Eric Christian Smith (@ericphototx) June 17, 2014
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William Barnett-Lewis Jun 17, 2014 5:52:13am |
re: #197 Dr Lizardo
Dances With Wolves + Pocahontas in outer space!
It is a pity they could never be so inventive as “Rocannon’s World” or “The Word for World Is Forest” by Le Guin.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 5:56:27am |
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 5:56:36am |
re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
Making them humanoid just means it is easier to use motion-capture CGI techniques with live actors.
If a writer makes an alien species too non-human or non-Earthlike, the reader or audience will find it hard to empathize or identify with them. Evil aliens tend to be insectile or reptilian, good aliens more humanoid or furry-animal based.
Real aliens probably resemble nothing we’ve ever seen on Earth.
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William Barnett-Lewis Jun 17, 2014 5:57:27am |
re: #207 Dr Lizardo
Hell, the utter genius of the shot of the spinning bone cutting to the space based nuclear weapon at the end of the dawn of man in 2001 was more than anything Cameron has done since Terminator.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 5:58:00am |
re: #161 Justanotherhuman
Pretend “alpha males” will eventually meet up with real alpha males.
Why have a police force when everyone is permitted to carry around a weapon like that?
And it eventually deteriorates into chaos.
Or someone ambushes an open carry person and takes their weapon. Then they will have to walk around — while being paranoid about being approached by anyone.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 5:58:32am |
75% of Pilger, Neb., destroyed after tornadoes rip through area; all of business district destroyed, sheriff says - @NBCNews
End of alert
Not much there, there, at any rate.
Area: 193 acres (78 ha)
Population: 346 (2012)
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 5:59:30am |
re: #204 wheat-dogghazi
I saw Titanic in the theater when it first came out, and found it entertaining. Smaltzy, by-the-numbers romantic tragedy with a soupçon of historical accuracy. (Oh, so the ship split in two on the way down!)
When I saw the 25th anniversary 3D version, I was less impressed. Maybe it was all those hundreds of times hearing the damn Celine Dion theme song.
The Chinese LOVE them some Celine Dion and My Heart Will Go On and On and On and On.
I loved that video of the guy in Las Vegas airport lip-synching “All By Myself”
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 6:00:23am |
re: #213 William Barnett-Lewis
Hell, the utter genius of the shot of the spinning bone cutting to the space based nuclear weapon at the end of the dawn of man in 2001 was more than anything Cameron has done since Terminator.
Oh definitely. 2001 also has what I consider perhaps the most optimistic ending in cinematic history. That we can take the next step up and become something better than what we are now. That we can improve ourselves; and like Bowman lying in bed stretching his arm out to the monolith, we just have to reach for it.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 6:00:25am |
re: #214 Feline Fearless Leader
Or someone ambushes an open carry person and takes their weapon. Then they will have to walk around — while being paranoid about being approached by anyone.
Both paranoid (which most already are) and trigger happy, to boot, no doubt.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 6:02:20am |
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Ian G. Jun 17, 2014 6:03:49am |
Good to see National Review stooping to the occasion. Soccer is just another way the right gets to be hysterical about America becoming less “exceptional”, and what better way to do so than to shit on a bunch of athletes proudly wearing American colors on a day when they stunned the world with a victory over the team that knocked them out of the last 2 tournaments. It’s as much fun as shitting on gay soldiers risking their lives in Afghanistan!
I just have to remind myself that in 2 decades, the Drudge/Limbaugh/FOX/National Review axis will be gone: either in nursing homes or in the ground. And then maybe a sane right will appear in this country and this will all seem like a bad dream.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 6:05:31am |
re: #215 Justanotherhuman
75% of Pilger, Neb., destroyed after tornadoes rip through area; all of business district destroyed, sheriff says - @NBCNews
End of alertNot much there, there at any rate.
Area: 193 acres (78 ha)
Population: 346 (2012)
I have friends who live about 15 miles from there, in Wayne. Sobering thought.
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Ian G. Jun 17, 2014 6:07:24am |
Not sure if the climate change denial chorus has picked up on this, but there is going to be snow in the northern Rockies today. A LOT:
1-2 feet in Glacier National Park (hey, maybe that will sustain the glaciers a bit longer before they disappear!), 6-12 inches in the Tetons, Absarokas, and Wind Rivers, and 4-6 inches in the Uintas and Wasatch.
Mercifully, I imagine that vacation season is not in full swing yet in Glacier National Park, since school isn’t out yet, so hopefully there won’t be a bunch of people in lightweight tents getting 16 inches of heavy, wet snow dumped on them on what was supposed to be a “summer” trip.
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Ian G. Jun 17, 2014 6:08:51am |
re: #215 Justanotherhuman
Did you see the video of it? Not one, but two monster tornadoes on the ground at the same time:
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 6:10:36am |
Soccer is just another Shariah Law plot to bring secular gay humanism to the U.S. /
Also, ICYMI, there was apparently a very charming panel “discussion” about Benghazi! at Heritage
Representatives of prominent conservative groups converged on the Heritage Foundation on Monday afternoon for the umpteenth in a series of gatherings to draw attention to the Benghazi controversy.
But this one took an unexpected turn.What began as a session purportedly about “unanswered questions” surrounding the September 2012 attacks on U.S. facilities in Libya deteriorated into the ugly taunting of a woman in the room who wore an Islamic head covering.
The session, as usual, quickly moved beyond the specifics of the assaults that left four Americans dead to accusations about the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the Obama administration, President Obama funding jihadists in their quest to destroy the United States, Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton attempting to impose Sharia blasphemy laws on Americans and Al Jazeera America being an organ of “enemy propaganda.”
Then Saba Ahmed, an American University law student, stood in the back of the room and asked a question in a soft voice. “We portray Islam and all Muslims as bad, but there’s 1.8 billion followers of Islam,” she told them. “We have 8 million-plus Muslim Americans in this country and I don’t see them represented here.”
Panelist Brigitte Gabriel of a group called ACT! for America pounced. She said “180 million to 300 million” Muslims are “dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.” She told Ahmed that the “peaceful majority were irrelevant” in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and she drew a Hitler comparison: “Most Germans were peaceful, yet the Nazis drove the agenda and as a result, 60 million died.”
No one could have predicted….
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sagehen Jun 17, 2014 6:11:37am |
re: #212 wheat-dogghazi
If a writer makes an alien species too non-human or non-Earthlike, the reader or audience will find it hard to empathize or identify with them. Evil aliens tend to be insectile or reptilian, good aliens more humanoid or furry-animal based.
Real aliens probably resemble nothing we’ve ever seen on Earth.
If they’re not carbon-based, will we even recognize them as sentient beings?
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 6:13:23am |
re: #205 lawhawk
Philadelphia, cradle of US democracy, birthplace of idiot sports fans who will boo Santa Claus, attack kids, and for which they had to build a jail in their stadiums to deal with the constant hooliganism.
More people around the world are involved and devoted to soccer/football than any other sport out there. Is it possible that some might use it as an opportunity to attack and engage in violence? Absolutely. Terrorists use gatherings of soccer fans as an easy target to hit, as they did in Kenya just hours ago.
The duration of matches isn’t that big a deal since the matches run shorter than most Yankee games.
Scoring an issue? 1-0 can be more intense than a slugfest in baseball, or a romp in football. It’s the same with hockey; a well played and defended game is thing of art - especially if there’s lots of shots on goal and the goalie has to turn into Shiva to block shots from all angles.
But this article has no redeeming value except to indicate that NRO is past its expiration date.
Sporting event as terrorist target is a long time thing in fiction. “Black Sunday” (film) or _Sum of All Fears_ are two off the top of my head where American football venues are targeted.
As for close low-scoring games being exciting it is often tied to how the game is being played. Tight back-and-forth play with scoring opportunities. Yes (as you mentioned). Very conservative play while looking for a low-risk attack opportunity. Nope*. There is room for both romps and tight games since they provide different sources of tension and excitement.
* - My brother referred to it as “Snorris Division hockey” back in the 90s.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 6:16:35am |
re: #223 Ian G.
Did you see the video of it? Not one, but two monster tornadoes on the ground at the same time:
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Where they kicking a water tower back and forth like a football?
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 6:18:47am |
re: #225 sagehen
If they’re not carbon-based, will we even recognize them as sentient beings?
When their orbital lasers deploy, they blow up the space station, and they start teleporting humans into holding pens to be exploited in the spice mines.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 6:19:20am |
re: #225 sagehen
If they’re not carbon-based, will we even recognize them as sentient beings?
More to the point, will they recognize us as sentient beings?
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:19:31am |
Adm. Kim Jong-un takes ride on North Korea submarine that was declared obsolete in 1961. http://t.co/ItBoLspBQ3 pic.twitter.com/HMSRfUZJyB— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) June 17, 2014
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 6:20:06am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 6:21:49am |
One of my brother’s neighbors has peacock(s). At the Christmas gathering when some of the other neighbors are visiting there is talk about someone assassinating the bird.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 6:22:25am |
re: #225 sagehen
If they’re not carbon-based, will we even recognize them as sentient beings?
Assuming we ever develop the technology for deep space travel.
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SteveMcGazi Jun 17, 2014 6:22:46am |
re: #230 darthstar
I remember a scene from Operation Petticoat, when Rock Hudson asks the chief “Will she go down?”
“Like a rock, sir!”
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:26:03am |
It's the Restoration Hardware rule: If you damage, but don't break it, Iran will pick it up at the outlets for 75% off. #Iraq— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 17, 2014
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:26:37am |
re: #232 Rocky-in-Connecticut
I guess they’ve never seen this!
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I always cheer for the Baseball Furies and they always lose.
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 17, 2014 6:26:48am |
Real-life 'Breaking Bad'? 64-year-old allegedly had meth lab in retirement village http://t.co/FpNTHTc5A7 #wftv— WFTV Eyewitness News (@WFTV) June 17, 2014
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 6:26:59am |
re: #224 Bulworth
Soccer is just another Shariah Law plot to bring secular gay humanism to the U.S. /
Also, ICYMI, there was apparently a very charming panel “discussion” about Benghazi! at Heritage
No one could have predicted….
Finally, I have the perfect excuse to post this link: a young women’s soccer team in Afghanistan. womensannexfoundation.org
The organization was founded by Roya Mahboob, an Afghani woman with an IT background.
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iossarian Jun 17, 2014 6:27:08am |
re: #238 darthstar
I always cheer for the Baseball Furies and they always lose.
Sweet makeup though.
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 6:27:50am |
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:28:17am |
re: #236 SteveMcGazi
What is “this”?
That’s from the movie The Warriors…about some guys who didn’t shoot Cyrus and have to fight their way back to Coney Island after the “Can you dig it” speech.
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makeitstop Jun 17, 2014 6:28:30am |
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 6:30:21am |
re: #230 darthstar
You can see the rust bleeding through on the joints around the conning tower right under Jong Un’s hands. They’re riding on a museum piece, which is what the Romeo class is (a relic of the Soviet sub fleet from the 1950s, before the Soviets pursued a nuclear sub fleet).
Not that the US doesn’t have a few of those either - they’re called B-52s, though they’ve been outfitted with the latest tech and have outlasted the more “modern” B-1, F-117, and may well outlast the B-2 due to being the more versatile airframe.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 6:31:44am |
Dinesh D’Souza has some interesting ideas—
If I was in a family and I believed my dad was some of serial killer or child molester, I would still love him. He would be part of my family, but I’d do everything I could to prevent him from doing evil actions.
I would think that would be good for the world and for my dad. So with Obama, he believes he’s doing the world a favor and America a favor by controlling this rogue elephant that is the United States.
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William Barnett-Lewis Jun 17, 2014 6:31:45am |
re: #236 SteveMcGazi
What is “this”?
The Warriors
A really underrated retelling of the Anabasis by Xenophon.
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 6:32:06am |
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:33:39am |
On MSNBC, @jheil tells Kristol: “I know you don't have the wariness for war, but the country does.”— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) June 17, 2014
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Timothy Watson Jun 17, 2014 6:34:31am |
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:34:45am |
re: #247 lawhawk
And like the B-52, that submarine is useless under water.
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 6:35:15am |
re: #250 b.d.
I wonder how long those uniforms stay white?
The sailors are disposable. Get something on them? Overboard you go. /
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makeitstop Jun 17, 2014 6:35:44am |
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 6:37:27am |
re: #253 darthstar
And like the B-52, that submarine is useless under water.
The Romeo isn’t particularly a quiet sub, so even the slight advantages it might have in coastal waters while running in electric mode is mitigated by being loud enough to hear miles away.
We’re not talking a deep water threat by any stretch, and they’d have to hope that someone gets real stupid and ignores the snorkel and banging sounds coming as the North Korean sub gets into a firing position.
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TedStriker Jun 17, 2014 6:39:00am |
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:39:50am |
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 6:40:11am |
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 6:43:55am |
re: #239 NJDhockeyfan
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Holy crap. But just because you’re older doesn’t mean you can’t have criminal intent. A 60-something woman and her 40-something daughter who lived here when my landlord bought the apts were dealing oxycontin and got caught. There was also a young woman turning tricks in the apt underneath mine (she was gone by the time I got here 4 yrs ago). Both attracted unwanted traffic, and unless you were familiar with this property (which is off the road) you wouldn’t have known it existed.
I appreciate the fact that the couple who own it now keep the place safe and quiet now by doing background checks. The previous owner didn’t care who lived here and didn’t take care of the place, either.
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:45:35am |
I guess this means Snowden won’t be making the keynote.
A year after Snowden, DEF CON and government agencies are friends again http://t.co/EfX9lCAPNt— The Switch (@TheSwitch) June 16, 2014
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Mattand Jun 17, 2014 6:45:46am |
re: #248 Bulworth
Dinesh D’Souza has some interesting ideas—
If I was in a family and I believed my dad was some of serial killer or child molester, I would still love him. He would be part of my family, but I’d do everything I could to prevent him from doing evil actions.
I would think that would be good for the world and for my dad. So with Obama, he believes he’s doing the world a favor and America a favor by controlling this rogue elephant that is the United States.
Unreal. Sounds like his upcoming stint in the greybar hotel is only making Dinesh dig deeper into his asshole pit.
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:50:50am |
@MomsDemand @metaquest @Target Well, at least they're starting to be more inclusive. pic.twitter.com/Lfm4OcaNhp— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 17, 2014
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 6:52:20am |
President Obama to propose vast expansion of Pacific Ocean marine sanctuary, White House officials say - @washingtonpost
Read more on washingtonpost.com
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:55:12am |
@samsteinhp Of course there's the “It's still okay to discriminate so long as you do it in Jesus' name.” clause.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 17, 2014
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Mattand Jun 17, 2014 6:55:38am |
re: #264 Dr. Matt
Convicted criminal says what?
That’s actually a good point. Fox News keeps constantly bringing this guy on, despite the fact that he is freshly convicted and by this time next year he’ll be in prison.
You’d think Ailes wouldn’t want a soon-to-be convict sullying his network. Wonder if they’re trying to play up a martyr angle for the viewers.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 6:56:57am |
And in the alternative universe where Olivia Munn isn’t thin enough—
Olivia Munn on embracing her curves, flaws
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darthstar Jun 17, 2014 6:57:37am |
re: #269 Mattand
That’s actually a good point. Fox News keeps constantly bringing this guy on, despite the fact that he is freshly convicted and by this time next year he’ll be in prison.
You’d think Ailes wouldn’t want a soon-to-be convict sullying his network. Wonder if they’re trying to play up a martyr angle for the viewers.
Most Fox viewers won’t even know D’Sousa is in jail. They’ll just wonder what happened to the token Ay-Rab that used to be on the show.
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 7:00:39am |
re: #271 darthstar
Most Fox viewers won’t even know D’Sousa is in jail. They’ll just wonder what happened to the token Ay-Rab that used to be on the show.
Fox viewers probably can’t tell the difference between Dinesh and Piyush: All THEM dang people look alike, I reckon.
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Decatur Deb Jun 17, 2014 7:01:23am |
re: #212 wheat-dogghazi
If a writer makes an alien species too non-human or non-Earthlike, the reader or audience will find it hard to empathize or identify with them. Evil aliens tend to be insectile or reptilian, good aliens more humanoid or furry-animal based.
Real aliens probably resemble nothing we’ve ever seen on Earth.
A couple decades ago an early exo-anthropologist took the opposite tack—that the laws of physics that we adapted to were universal, and would tend to generate creatures much like us at the top of the food chain. Things like bipedalism, binocular vision, head-based sensors would make our alien visitors less strange than might be. There was a good bit of this kind of discussion kicked off by the great 50s horror movies. One I remember explained why the giant ants in Them couldn’t be just scaled-up formica. Anything that massive would cook itself in a chitonous exoskeleton.
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 17, 2014 7:16:55am |
re: #207 Dr Lizardo
James Cameron is good at visual spectacle, no doubt about that. Titanic certainly didn’t deserve Best Film - L.A. Confidential was vastly superior in almost every other aspect. I would’ve awarded Titanic an Oscar for visual effects and production design, but that’s about it.
But then again, Stanley Kubrick had him beat. When I’ve been told that Avatar is the “greatest sci-fi movie EVER!!” I usually say, “Bullshit - watch this”
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In that little snippet, Kubrick (and Arthur C. Clarke) create a more powerful piece of cinema - all without saying a damned word - than Cameron has ever done. Though I will Cameron props for the first Terminator film.
2001 Yea!!!
Nashville is another one of my favorite Kubrick films.
T2 is my Cameron film of choice. Don’t think I’ve seen any of his later films.
It’s one of those that I will stop channel surfing and watch.
Favorite scene is Arnold riding the motorcycle along the LA riverbed shooting the shotgun with one hand.
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Stanley Sea Jun 17, 2014 7:19:17am |
Nice.
Paul the Pulpo is picking from World Cup matches from heaven on Google’s doodle today.
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 17, 2014 7:20:52am |
re: #201 Mattand
North Korea has a submarine?
Seriously?
It is generally believed that a DPRK sub torpedoed a South Korea warship in 2010 with a loss of 40 South Korean sailors.
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Gus Jun 17, 2014 7:23:30am |
I has page with 156 RTs and 0 updings. You can’t explain that. //
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 17, 2014 7:25:34am |
A punt gun; an extremely large shotgun used for duck hunting in the 19th and early 20th centuries. pic.twitter.com/7NAeW56j2u— History In Pictures (@HistoryInPics) June 17, 2014
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 7:26:27am |
re: #274 BeenHereAwhile
2001 Yea!!!
Nashville is another one of my favorite Kubrick films.
T2 is my Cameron film of choice. Don’t think I’ve seen any of his later films.
It’s one of those that I will stop channel surfing and watch.
Favorite scene is Arnold riding the motorcycle along the LA riverbed shooting the shotgun with one hand.
T2 is a good one as well. I like Terminator because the original was very much a low-budget film, and as a result, had a strong focus on plot development and well-written characters.
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Flying Squirrel Girl Jun 17, 2014 7:29:02am |
re: #202 Lidane
In the beginning of Avatar, when the giant robot-fighter things were introduced, I wondered why something so technologically advanced would still have a FREAKING REAR VIEW MIRROR?
At the end when the evil dude was in the robot and he looked in his rear-view mirror and saw what was coming at him, I wanted to throw something at the TV.
I’m with you on James Cameron movies.
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ObserverArt Jun 17, 2014 7:31:21am |
re: #213 William Barnett-Lewis
Hell, the utter genius of the shot of the spinning bone cutting to the space based nuclear weapon at the end of the dawn of man in 2001 was more than anything Cameron has done since Terminator.
And yet, he made many dollars on it all. Sad. Really great movies that have great photography, scene setups, acting and a dynamite script don’t seem to get made as much anymore and when they do they just don’t bring the return to the studio and producers.
It’s a lot like pop music. Crap sells, great bands and their art go by the wayside sometimes hardly recognized.
And then the public gets to say “they don’t make ‘em like they used to” or “there are no great bands and music anymore” but it isn’t true. We just don’t have a way to get it to the people and the big business dudes want huge returns so they push the crap that sells.
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 17, 2014 7:32:15am |
Maliki's Iraqi police force is now reportedly executing Sunni prisoners to stop ISIS freeing them. http://t.co/XA4dyX7JkW— Paul Danahar (@pdanahar) June 17, 2014
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TedStriker Jun 17, 2014 7:33:40am |
re: #274 BeenHereAwhile
2001 Yea!!!
Nashville is another one of my favorite Kubrick films.
T2 is my Cameron film of choice. Don’t think I’ve seen any of his later films.
It’s one of those that I will stop channel surfing and watch.
Favorite scene is Arnold riding the motorcycle along the LA riverbed shooting the shotgun with one hand.
Not to be a killjoy or anything, but Nashville was directed by Robert Altman (MASH, The Long Goodbye, Dr. T and the Women, Gosford Park, etc.), not by Kubrick.
As a lifelong Nashvillian, it’s weird to see things and places in the city as they were the year I was born (1975), some of them still around and some of them long gone or changed beyond recognition.
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 17, 2014 7:35:27am |
re: #249 William Barnett-Lewis
The Warriors
A really underrated retelling of the Anabasis by Xenophon.
And Joe Walsh:
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 7:35:39am |
Why does Google have the Kracken wearing a halo?
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 17, 2014 7:35:54am |
The Kremlin is burying Russia in paranoia and propaganda http://t.co/SenXIHJQWC pic.twitter.com/mFijkyLIGm— Newsweek (@Newsweek) June 17, 2014
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 7:36:48am |
Why is it you never hear of baseball hooligans?
Obviously the author has never been to Chicago during/after a Cubs/Sox game.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 7:38:20am |
re: #282 ObserverArt
And yet, he made many dollars on it all. Sad. Really great movies that have great photography, scene setups, acting and a dynamite script don’t seem to get made as much anymore and when they do they just don’t bring the return to the studio and producers.
It’s a lot like pop music. Crap sells, great bands and their art go by the wayside sometimes hardly recognized.
And then the public gets to say “they don’t make ‘em like they used to” or “there are no great bands and music anymore” but it isn’t true. We just don’t have a way to get it to the people and the big business dudes want huge returns so they push the crap that sells.
You’d probably be interested in this:
or this:
both by Nuri Bilge Ceylan, an absolute master of film-making.
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 7:38:47am |
re: #274 BeenHereAwhile
Abyss is underappreciated, particularly since that’s where he and ILM cut their chops on doing the CGI stuff that made the T-1000 so menacing (though that had as much to do with the fact that Robert Patrick was able to run without showing any effort or emotion). T-2 is an example of where the sequel is arguably better than the original.
I couldn’t help but laugh during Titanic because it was so overwrought and while I get the technical mastery of the craft of filming and the practical stunts and technical aspects, the story itself was mediocre.
The same can be said of Avatar, which is going to get 3 sequels, even though the story was beyond idiotic.
Oh, but $1 billion plus means 3 more movies that will likely be just as bad.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 7:41:42am |
I thought the wingnut sport of choice was American football, very masculine and manly and all that. Never imagined they, except for George Will, liked baseball.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 7:42:07am |
Birds are quite vocal this morning. Do you think they are confirming the prediction of storms?
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ObserverArt Jun 17, 2014 7:42:30am |
re: #269 Mattand
That’s actually a good point. Fox News keeps constantly bringing this guy on, despite the fact that he is freshly convicted and by this time next year he’ll be in prison.
You’d think Ailes wouldn’t want a soon-to-be convict sullying his network. Wonder if they’re trying to play up a martyr angle for the viewers.
FOX believers probably think the only reason he is going to prison or even got caught is due to the heavy hand of the feds under Obama and Holder.
They are very well trained viewers.
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 17, 2014 7:42:48am |
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 7:43:55am |
All the Rs who are screaming about Pres Obama not “stabilizing” Iraq are full of shit.
You can’t stabilize a country that refuses to govern itself fairly and where sectarian violence is rampant, whether because of perceived, implied or real bias against them.
Pres Obama didn’t “squander” anything—that was Bush and his minions. $2 Trillion dollars and things are worse now than when the US invaded Iraq.
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 7:44:13am |
Oh, so many ways to snark a response to this:
.@PhilipRucker @costareports @ktumulty Leadership jobs no picnic. As Newt says:”If you win, you spend every day taking care of the people.”— Janet Hook (@hookjan) June 17, 2014
So, that explains why the GOP doesn’t want to lead and will resort to sniping from the back bench?
Taking care of people is one thing the GOP has shown it can no longer do*
*except rich white dudes.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 7:45:24am |
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TedStriker Jun 17, 2014 7:45:32am |
re: #294 BeenHereAwhile
Oops.
Moar coffee.
No big thing.
As I was saying above (I was in the midst of editing my post when you replied), as a lifelong Nashvillian, it’s weird to see things and places in the city as they were the year I was born (1975) in the film, some of them still around and some of them long since gone or changed beyond recognition.
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Gus Jun 17, 2014 7:49:10am |
Tea Party Pro Tip: If you've never served but hate Obama, you're a patriot. If you served, but hate war, you're a traitor. Got it?— Jim Wright (@Stonekettle) June 17, 2014
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 7:51:45am |
re: #296 lawhawk
Oh, so many ways to snark a response to this:
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So, that explains why the GOP doesn’t want to lead and will resort to sniping from the back bench?
Taking care of people is one thing the GOP has shown it can no longer do*
*except rich white dudes.
They don’t want to take care of people. They want to create conditions in which people can take care of themselves —*wink wink*
;)
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 7:54:15am |
An addled Texas governor says what?
“I’m more Jewish than you think I am,” - Gov. Rick Perry to Mark Leibovich. http://t.co/LiMF9yAIz6 #goyim— carolynryan (@carolynryan) June 17, 2014
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 7:55:16am |
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 17, 2014 7:55:49am |
re: #290 lawhawk
Abyss is underappreciated, particularly since that’s where he and ILM cut their chops on doing the CGI stuff that made the T-1000 so menacing (though that had as much to do with the fact that Robert Patrick was able to run without showing any effort or emotion). T-2 is an example of where the sequel is arguably better than the original.
I couldn’t help but laugh during Titanic because it was so overwrought and while I get the technical mastery of the craft of filming and the practical stunts and technical aspects, the story itself was mediocre.
The same can be said of Avatar, which is going to get 3 sequels, even though the story was beyond idiotic.
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Oh, but $1 billion plus means 3 more movies that will likely be just as bad.
Now that you mention it, I did see Abyss.
But while enjoying the technical aspects of the movie, I couldn’t get involved, until the white rat breathing oxygenated fluorocarbon scene.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 7:57:55am |
re: #273 Decatur Deb
A couple decades ago an early exo-anthropologist took the opposite tack—that the laws of physics that we adapted to were universal, and would tend to generate creatures much like us at the top of the food chain. Things like bipedalism, binocular vision, head-based sensors would make our alien visitors less strange than might be. There was a good bit of this kind of discussion kicked off by the great 50s horror movies. One I remember explained why the giant ants in Them couldn’t be just scaled-up formica. Anything that massive would cook itself in a chitonous exoskeleton.
There’s some terrestrial bias at work, though. We’ve only got one ecosystem to study, and Earth’s successful evolutionary adaptations have been passed along from early organisms to later ones. For example, predators have binocular vision while prey have wide-angle vision. Since most animals have only two eyes, the latter requirement means prey have one eye on each side of their head. In another ecosystem, having three or more eyes could have served the same purpose. We just don’t know, because we have no experience with extra-terrestrial life.
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Killgore Trout Jun 17, 2014 7:58:29am |
re: #283 NJDhockeyfan
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So much for that inclusive government thing we demanded in exchange for assistance.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 7:58:49am |
re: #299 Gus
Sometimes Jim Wright is simply the Lizard’s Lizard.
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 7:59:35am |
re: #283 NJDhockeyfan
Ah, looks like dubyah’s freedom seeds are sprouting
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 7:59:45am |
Storms and allergens in my part of the world.
Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 06/17/2014*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
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Trees: Low Concentration
Weeds: Moderate Concentration
Grass: High Concentration
Mold: High Concentration
you?
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 8:01:11am |
re: #308 FemNaziBitch
Storms and allergens in my part of the world.
you?
Something has kicked in around here. Just miserable the last few days. Probably mold counts since it’s been warm and humid.
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 17, 2014 8:04:05am |
Where did they steal those hashtags from?
ISIS on the move in Iraq with weapons, hashtags http://t.co/D7WiCMB5kM— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 17, 2014
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 8:04:50am |
re: #303 BeenHereAwhile
Now that you mention it, I did see Abyss.
But while enjoying the technical aspects of the movie, I couldn’t get involved, until the white rat breathing oxygenated fluorocarbon scene.
I remember that scene, too, particular the reaction of the divers fighting not to inhale the liquid and then looking surprised and relieved when they didn’t drown.
I don’t remember anyone explaining how they got the stuff back out of their lungs again, though.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 8:06:28am |
re: #312 NJDhockeyfan
Where did they steal those hashtags from?
Saddam had them stashed away. He was actually stockpiling Hashtags of Mass Destruction, but the intel got it wrong.
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:07:44am |
re: #314 wheat-dogghazi
Saddam had them stashed away. He was actually stockpiling Hashtags of Mass Destruction, but the intel got it wrong.
HMD’s
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 8:08:19am |
Ouch….yet, haha
'Morning Joe' wants Supreme Court to force Google to remove 'crap' from the Internet — like his dead intern? http://t.co/Fo1k1nVUE5— The Raw Story (@RawStory) June 17, 2014
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:08:59am |
WATCH: Muslim student gets mocked at @Heritage Benghazi panel http://t.co/Mmx6kNyHFc pic.twitter.com/hH83tMe3lR— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) June 17, 2014
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:09:29am |
re: #313 wheat-dogghazi
I remember that scene, too, particular the reaction of the divers fighting not to inhale the liquid and then looking surprised and relieved when they didn’t drown.
I don’t remember anyone explaining how they got the stuff back out of their lungs again, though.
They coughed it out when they were back aboard the ship in air. I remember.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 8:10:00am |
Hoyer has always been a bit of a hawk…
House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., says US should ‘certainly’ consider airstrikes in Iraq - @toddzwillich, @frankthorpNBC
see original on twitter.com
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:10:11am |
WND pundit says the next president should “be a white Christian conservative” … cites Benghazi http://t.co/PvYo4c4eQZ— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) June 17, 2014
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Mattand Jun 17, 2014 8:12:42am |
re: #279 NJDhockeyfan
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Jesus God, how big were the ducks back then?
Someone should totally mod that into Nintendo’s Duck Hunt.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 8:13:59am |
re: #323 Mattand
Jesus God, how big were the ducks back then?
Someone should totally mod that into Nintendo’s Duck Hunt.
In Obama Socialist Future - duck hunt you!
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Nines All The Times Jun 17, 2014 8:14:05am |
re: #322 Lidane
You suspected they were this. They confirm.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 8:14:10am |
re: #318 Lidane
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Disgusting. All of them against 1 brave young woman asking a real question.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:14:12am |
re:
#322
This WND pundit really sounds rational, unbiased, and well-informed. /
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 8:14:56am |
re: #319 FemNaziBitch
They coughed it out when they were back aboard the ship in air. I remember.
Yeah, I remember now, but in reality they’d have to have some whooping cough-like coughs to clear it all out. We’re not talking about some phlegm in your throat, but liquid filling all the alveoli.
Ah, well, suspend disbelief and all that.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 17, 2014 8:15:09am |
re: #318 Lidane
This will be the ultimate undoing of the TPGOP: I learned that politics was about convincing people of your viewpoint through discussion and discourse.
It certainly does not involve branding everyone who disagrees with you a traitor/loser/terrorist sympathizer/feminazi/slut/nazi/communist/babykiller/moocher, etc, and that seems to be what those people thrive on.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:15:13am |
re:
#326
Hey, were the Ones asking the questions around here!!11
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BeenHereAwhile Jun 17, 2014 8:15:18am |
re: #298 TedStriker
No big thing.
As I was saying above (I was in the midst of editing my post when you replied), as a lifelong Nashvillian, it’s weird to see things and places in the city as they were the year I was born (1975) in the film, some of them still around and some of them long since gone or changed beyond recognition.
There’s teardown and construction going now on along Music Row.
The large old tree shrouded house at the corner of Division and 17th, gone.
More teardown on 16th Avenue, approx 1/2 block from our building.
Some developers are looking at the UA (ugliest building on Music Row) building.
And look what replaced the C&W Museum - BMI, the large house that Francis Preston built.
And just east of the circle of naked statues (always wonder what Buddy Killen would have thought of the statues on the circle named after him), there’s a large apartment building and motel under construction.
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 8:15:57am |
re: #322 Lidane
WND pundit says the next president should “be a white Christian conservative” … cites Benghazi t.co
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) June 17, 2014WorldNetDaily columnist Mychal Massie is no fan of First Lady Michelle Obama, and is citing her lack of “social grace and decorum” and “lavish shopping sprees” as reasons that the next president should be “a white Christian conservative.”
Lavish shopping sprees? Like OSarah bin Palin’s $150,000 shopping spree?
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 17, 2014 8:15:59am |
“#ISIS has developed a Twitter app for Android phones called The Dawn of Glad Tidings” http://t.co/n2ilsgUi7g pic.twitter.com/7zG4rC2qU2— Julie (@MsIntervention) June 17, 2014
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 8:18:20am |
re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
This will be the ultimate undoing of the TPGOP: I learned that politics was about convincing people of your viewpoint through discussion and discourse.
It certainly does not involve branding everyone who disagrees with you a traitor/loser/terrorist sympathizer/feminazi/slut/nazi/communist/babykiller/moocher, etc, and that seems to be what those people thrive on.
But you won’t see that clip turn up on the political pundit shows were it should. That we don’t have any sort of reasonable political discourse anymore is what really needs to be discussed. But, of course, doing so would be partisan, wouldn’t it. And we’re not allowed to break the MBF’s rice bowl.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:20:32am |
re: #248 Bulworth
Fox’s Megyn Kelly agog at D’Souza analogy: Are you calling America a child molester? http://t.co/0F4BDXYbK6— The Raw Story (@RawStory) June 17, 2014
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 8:20:48am |
I am prepared to argue same because, if we have a white Christian conservative as president, we can criticize his (or her) policies without concern of being called racists. rightwingwatch.org
First of all, this is bonafide racism. This racist asshole is actually advocating for a White president…..ignorantly and proudly. Second, that the fuck does this even mean? Since when do conservatives EVER criticize policies from republicans? Jebus….what an asshole.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:21:14am |
Driehaus withdrew his complaint after losing his reelection race, but SBA List continued to challenge the Ohio law against false political speech on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment right to free speech. Two lower courts ruled that the group could not continue to challenge the law in district court because it was no longer facing a sufficiently imminent injury, but the Supreme Court unanimously reversed those decisions Monday in Susan B. Anthony List v. Driehaus.“Denying prompt judicial review would impose a substantial hardship on petitioners, forcing them to choose between refraining from core political speech on the one hand, or engaging in that speech and risking costly Commission proceedings and criminal prosecution on the other,” Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in the unanimous opinion.
Politicians can now lie legally.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:21:25am |
re:
#336
Apparently even Kelly didn’t know what to do with this
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Ryan King Jun 17, 2014 8:22:14am |
I bought the BS about this Iraq Part Deaux being a worthy war.
Never again you f’ing bastards. STFU and await your legacy in the history books.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:23:34am |
re:
#337
I am prepared to argue same because, if we have a white Christian conservative as president, we can criticize his (or her) policies without concern of being called racists.
Policies. Yeah. Like criticizing FLOTUS’ vacations and shopping sprees!!1.
Policies.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:23:58am |
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
BREAKING NEWS: The U.S. military has captured the alleged ringleader of Benghazi attacks http://t.co/jprrC5tfT9— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 17, 2014
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:25:44am |
re:
#342
Amidst all the Benghazi! freakout, I don’t think I’ve ever heard any of the wingnuts mention or wonder about the alledged perpetrators or ringleaders. Only concerned with blaming Obama. Funny that.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 8:26:59am |
re: #342 Lidane
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
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Wingnuts will be outraged! OUTRAGED!!
HOW DARE OBAMA SUCCEED IN DOING ANYTHING?!
/ (only half)
*headdesk*
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:27:02am |
re: #342 Lidane
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
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GET THAT GUY TO TESTIFY AT GOWDY’S COMMISSION! HE MAY HAVE SOME DIRT ON HILLARY! HE’LL TELL US WHAT REALLY WENT ON!! ACCOUNTABILITY, CUT A DEAL WITH HIM IF WE MUST!
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:29:09am |
Ahmed Abu Khattala
Ahmed Abu Khattala is responsible for those 4 dead Americans in Benghazi.
Not Barack Obama
Not Hillary Clinton
Ahmed Abu Khattala.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 8:29:35am |
re: #341 Bulworth
re:
#337I am prepared to argue same because, if we have a white Christian conservative as president, we can criticize his (or her) policies without concern of being called racists.
Policies. Yeah. Like criticizing FLOTUS’ vacations and shopping sprees!!1.
Policies.
Victimization screed. We get called racists for *anything* critical we say about Obama! Just another version of “The Democrats are the real racists!”
(spit)
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wrenchwench Jun 17, 2014 8:30:27am |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
Most people who’d be ticked off by that article will never know it was written. National Review is not well known outside of the US and it is effectively unknown outside of the Anglosphere.
That’s not to suggest its a good article. It’s not: It’s over the top and needlessly hostile. It’s being seen by few non-Americans doesn’t make it better.
You link to them, you recommend them, but their odiousness is moderated by their poor circulation? Do I have that right?
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:31:02am |
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 8:31:47am |
re: #337 Dr. Matt
First of all, this is bonafide racism. This racist asshole is actually advocating for a White president…..ignorantly and proudly. Second, that the fuck does this even mean? Since when do conservatives EVER criticize policies from republicans? Jebus….what an asshole.
HURR HURR MYCHAL MASSIE IS TEH BLAH SO WHO YOUR CALLIN A RACIST, TEH DEMOCRAPS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!!
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:31:50am |
Obama just captured a #Benghazi suspect to distract from Benghazi. Sneaky bastard. #p2 #tcot— Robbie Sherwood (@RobbieSherwood) June 17, 2014
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 8:32:02am |
re: #342 Lidane
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
BREAKING NEWS: The U.S. military has captured the alleged ringleader of Benghazi attacks t.co
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 17, 2014
We must give praise to dick and dubyah for implementing the programs that led to the successful capture of this terrorist.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:32:09am |
re: #328 wheat-dogghazi
Yeah, I remember now, but in reality they’d have to have some whooping cough-like coughs to clear it all out. We’re not talking about some phlegm in your throat, but liquid filling all the alveoli.
Ah, well, suspend disbelief and all that.
How do babies clear their lungs after birth?
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 8:32:42am |
R heads are gonna spin…
U.S. captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid
“The officials said Ahmed Abu Khattala was captured near Benghazi by American troops, working alongside the FBI, following months of planning, and was now in U.S. custody “in a secure location outside Libya.” The officials said there were no casualties in the operation, and that all U.S. personnel involved have safely left Libya.
“Khattala’s apprehension is a major victory for the Obama administration, which has been criticized for having failed so far to bring those responsible for the Benghazi attacks to justice.
“One jubilant official called Khattala’s capture “a reminder that when the United States says it’s going to hold someone accountable and he will face justice, this is what we mean.” More
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 8:33:04am |
re: #349 wrenchwench
You link to them, you recommend them, but their odiousness is moderated by their poor circulation? Do I have that right?
And it has no circulation outside a country of 300+ million. So who cares if the article is a giant lie demonizing anyone who likes a particular sport.
/ (dripping)
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 8:33:29am |
re: #351 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR MYCHAL MASSIE IS TEH BLAH SO WHO YOUR CALLIN A RACIST, TEH DEMOCRAPS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!!!
Mychal Massie…..sounds very Muslimie.
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Killgore Trout Jun 17, 2014 8:34:06am |
re: #342 Lidane
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
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Interesting. I wonder which “government” we dealt with. The elected one or the renegade general or both? I suspect the General might be more likely to agree to such a deal.
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Targetpractice Jun 17, 2014 8:35:58am |
re: #342 Lidane
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
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Caught in less time than it took to capture OBL. HA!
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:36:45am |
re: #358 lawhawk
Ten Cent Beer Night was a promotion held by Major League Baseball’s Cleveland Indians during a game against the Texas Rangers at Cleveland Stadium on Tuesday, June 4, 1974. The idea behind the promotion was to attract more fans to the game by offering 12 U.S. fl oz (354.9 ml) cups of 3.2% beer for just 10 cents each (regular price was 65 cents) with a limit of six per purchase. During the game, fans became heavily intoxicated, culminating in a riot in the ninth inning which caused the game to be forfeited due to the crowd’s uncontrollable rowdiness and because the game could not be resumed in a timely manner.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:36:56am |
Captured Benghazi suspect, alleged ring leader in 2012 attack, is “en route” to US & expected to be arraigned in DC http://t.co/OnlulLKeR2— NewsBreaker (@NewsBreaker) June 17, 2014
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 8:37:08am |
More: Benghazi, Libya, terror suspect, Ahmed Abu Khattala, is ‘en route’ to the US, US officials say - @washingtonpost
Read more on washingtonpost.com
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:37:34am |
US official confirms Washington Post report of captured Benghazi suspect-@Reuters— AJAM Live (@ajamlive) June 17, 2014
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 17, 2014 8:37:54am |
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:38:47am |
re: #361 b.d.
Texas manager Billy Martin charged onto the field with his players right behind, some wielding bats. A large number of intoxicated fans - some armed with knives, chains, and portions of stadium seats that they had torn apart - surged onto the field, and others hurled bottles from the stands.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:39:32am |
BREAKING: White House tells @MajorCBS that Benghazi attack suspect Abu Khattala was captured over the weekend in a joint military-FBI raid.— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) June 17, 2014
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:39:36am |
re: #367 b.d.
Indians’ manager Ken Aspromonte ordered his players to grab bats and help the Rangers, attacking the team’s own fans in the process. Rioters began throwing steel folding chairs
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:39:48am |
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Targetpractice Jun 17, 2014 8:40:03am |
re: #362 Lidane
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Cue rants of outrage that Congress wasn’t informed about this capture until it had already happened or some shit.
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Killgore Trout Jun 17, 2014 8:40:37am |
Iraq Cabinet Accuses Saudi Arabia of Spurring ‘Genocide’
On Tuesday, Maliki’s Cabinet — which is Shiite dominated — pointed the finger squarely at Saudi Arabia for stoking the violence.
“We hold them responsible for supporting these groups financially and morally, and for the outcome of that - which includes crimes that may qualify as genocide: the spilling of Iraqi blood, the destruction of Iraqi state institutions and historic and religious sites,” the statement said, according to Reuters.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:41:43am |
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Vidiotic Jun 17, 2014 8:41:47am |
Far too uncomplicated for my tastes. All of the nuances of NASCAR. Give me a hidden ball trick or a ground-rule double any day. Just a personal taste. (I’d still be happy if the US does well)
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:42:40am |
re:
#362
Obama is real ‘ringleader’ of Benghazi attacks NEVER 4get!!1
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Stanley Sea Jun 17, 2014 8:42:43am |
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Killgore Trout Jun 17, 2014 8:43:20am |
re: #371 Targetpractice
Cue rants of outrage that Congress wasn’t informed about this capture until it had already happened or some shit.
There will be complaints about what took so long and of course “question the timing” stuff. The guy wasn’t exactly hiding, he was giving press interviews. I suspect the political changes in Libya and the renegade general had something to do with this. The general would want this guy dead or gone from the country.
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klys Jun 17, 2014 8:44:56am |
Three cats in the office with me. For the whole day. Lots of noises outside, and they are unsure of how they feel about this.
Oh, it’s going to be a long day.
(I have to play keep the cats in when I go over to the neighbors’ to see if I can use the bathroom later.)
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 8:45:34am |
Lena Headey and Jimmy Kimmel get into a drunken GoT insult battle, though I think Lena/Cersei won with the very first quip: “that’s such a nice tie, shame that it’s around such a worthless neck.”
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:46:00am |
UNLESS THE #BENGHAZI GUY HAS LOIS LERNER'S EMAILS, I'M STILL EXPLODING WITH CONSTANT RAGE! #tcot— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) June 17, 2014
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Targetpractice Jun 17, 2014 8:47:45am |
re: #377 Killgore Trout
There will be complaints about what took so long and of course “question the timing” stuff. The guy wasn’t exactly hiding, he was giving press interviews. I suspect the political changes in Libya and the renegade general had something to do with this. The general would want this guy dead or gone from the country.
Regardless of the reasons behind his capture, the man is in our custody and will stand trial. That is a “win” in the President’s favor yet again.
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 8:48:35am |
So, the Administration bags and tags someone they believe was involved in the Benghazi attacks, which must be their way to get people’s attention off the IRS email debacle, which was itself a way to get off the Benghazi debacle, which was meant to get attention off the mess in Iraq, which was meant to get attention off the mess of the economy, which was meant to get attention off Benghazi, which was meant to get attention off the fact that the president was a Muslim usurper from Kenya, which was meant to get attention off Benghazi.
Yeah, points to Obama, for getting attention back on where it belongs. That he’s the Muslim usurper from Kenya who has destroyed the economy and let the Benghazi terror masters do their business. /
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:48:42am |
Benghazi guy will PROOF Talking Points lie about Video IMPEACH!!1
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 8:50:02am |
re: #365 Feline Fearless Leader
Beautiful. I’m watching miniature roses given to me by my granddaughter flourish in the larger pot I put them in on the balcony. After the weather cools down, I intend to plant them in the ground at a corner of the bldg. They grow and bloom just as a regular rose does but don’t require anything extra as hybrid roses do. They should do well here since we’re in Zone 7 (if above 5 they’re supposed to do OK).
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makeitstop Jun 17, 2014 8:50:15am |
Santorum: ‘It’s fun to bang the president!’
Wotta maroon.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 8:50:41am |
HURR HURR!!!!! INPEACH OBAMA BECAUSE REASONS!!!!!!!
Remember @realDonaldTrump's history-changing birther announcement? Right-wing activist wants to impeach Obama over it http://t.co/kGudCE8jii— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) June 17, 2014
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:50:55am |
I’m wondering why yesterday’s Benghazi Accountability Coaltionwasn’t clued into this possible development. Almost as if maybe they don’t care about who the actual terrorists behind the attack were./
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:51:36am |
Read: Statement from Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral Kirby on capture of Benghazi suspect Ahmed Abu Khatallah pic.twitter.com/A6QXvKejz1— AJAM Live (@ajamlive) June 17, 2014
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 8:52:50am |
NOW WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE MAD ABOUT? #tcot— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) June 17, 2014
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:53:41am |
re:
#392
HERO MARINE still in Mexico JAIl Obama won’t rescue!!1
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blueraven Jun 17, 2014 8:53:46am |
re: #377 Killgore Trout
There will be complaints about what took so long and of course “question the timing” stuff. The guy wasn’t exactly hiding, he was giving press interviews. I suspect the political changes in Libya and the renegade general had something to do with this. The general would want this guy dead or gone from the country.
Or maybe they took advantage of the fact that all eyes are on Iraq right now.
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Timothy Watson Jun 17, 2014 8:53:57am |
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 8:54:24am |
re: #392 Lidane
@LOLGOP USA Soccer had only the 6th fastest goal in FIFA World Cup history…— lawhawk (@lawhawk) June 17, 2014
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 8:55:08am |
INPEECH!!!! INPEECH!!!!
Leadership in action! Impeach soon before there is no US to lead! #PJNET #TCOT #WAAR #TGDN #PATRIOTS #CCOT pic.twitter.com/bZRk3r8TdU— CateKA (@keltcat) June 17, 2014
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 8:56:33am |
re: #389 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!!!! INPEACH OBAMA BECAUSE REASONS!!!!!!!
Apparently none of these bozos have ever set foot on a college campus, because transcripts do not list citizenship…and I have degrees from 3 different universities.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 8:56:33am |
INPEECH1!!! INPEECH!!!!!
“@steve0423: Can we do like Obama does and just skip congress to impeach him!! #tcot #RedNationRising #ImpeachObama pic.twitter.com/zVosucjdRz”— mama_b (@mama_b5) June 17, 2014
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Targetpractice Jun 17, 2014 8:56:59am |
re: #397 Pie-onist Overlord
INPEECH!!!! INPEECH!!!!
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It really does seem to drive them crazy, the idea that the President could engage in a hobby rather than spending every waking moment in the Oval Office. Somehow I doubt they hold the same standard for CEOs.
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 8:57:13am |
INPEACH FOR SENDING THE US MILITARY INTO LIBYA WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL TO GET THAT GUY!!!
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 8:57:50am |
CDC: Deaths: Final Data for 2010
• The 15 leading causes of death in 2010 were:
1. Diseases of heart (heart disease)
2. Malignant neoplasms (cancer)
3. Chronic lower respiratory diseases
4. Cerebrovascular diseases (stroke)
5. Accidents (unintentional injuries)
6. Alzheimer’s disease
7. Diabetes mellitus (diabetes)
8. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis (kidney
disease)
9. Influenza and pneumonia
10. Intentional self-harm (suicide)
11. Septicemia
12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis
13. Essential hypertension and hypertensive renal dis
ease (hypertension)
14. Parkinson’s disease
15. Pneumonitis due to solids and liquids
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 8:58:07am |
re: #400 Targetpractice
It really does seem to drive them crazy, the idea that the President could engage in a hobby rather than spending every waking moment in the Oval Office. Somehow I doubt they hold the same standard for CEOs.
Well, they certainly didn’t hold Bush to it when he was down at his “ranch” clearing brush all the time.
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wheat-dogghazi Jun 17, 2014 8:58:36am |
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 8:58:42am |
re: #400 Targetpractice
It really does seem to drive them crazy, the idea that the President could engage in a hobby rather than spending every waking moment in the Oval Office. Somehow I doubt they hold the same standard for CEOs.
HURR HURR REAGAN & BUSH DIDN’T PLAY GOLF THEY WENT TO THEERE MANLY RANCHES & CLEARED BRANCHES & CHOPPED WOOD WITH CHAINSAWS LIKE REAL MEN!!!!!!
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geoffm33 Jun 17, 2014 8:58:45am |
re: #400 Targetpractice
It really does seem to drive them crazy, the idea that the President could engage in a hobby rather than spending every waking moment in the Oval Office. Somehow I doubt they hold the same standard for
CEOswhite presidents.
Truth.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 8:58:50am |
re:
#397
I’m glad we’ve reached this stage of wingnut meltdown, past the stuff about internment camps!!1, straight through to Americka is almost goner!!1/
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 8:59:08am |
re: #399 Pie-onist Overlord
INPEECH1!!! INPEECH!!!!!
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I predict there will be a lot of butthurt among the wingnuts with this capture of the Benghazi suspect.
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Gus Jun 17, 2014 8:59:23am |
Breaking. Video proves that Heritage meeting on Benghazi with Islamophobes, birthers and other assorted wackos was actually well behaved.— Gus (@Gus_802) June 17, 2014
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 9:00:19am |
re:
#402
Alzheimer’s is up there much higher than I would have thought.
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klys Jun 17, 2014 9:00:45am |
It’s almost like having a bunch of wingnuts one room over, except more coherent and will have a useful result.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:01:12am |
re: #411 Bulworth
re:
#402Alzheimer’s is up there much higher than I would have thought.
I THINK IT has to do with the number of old people right now.
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Killgore Trout Jun 17, 2014 9:01:27am |
re: #394 blueraven
Or maybe they took advantage of the fact that all eyes are on Iraq right now.
I’m hesitant to include Iraq into the White House’s thinking on this, that’s a big can of worms. I would hope the timing is independent of the situation in Iraq.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 17, 2014 9:01:47am |
re: #408 Dr Lizardo
Oh hell, The GOPers wouldn’t know a good President if he bit them in the ass these days.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 9:01:48am |
Kitteh is standing her ground:
My cat really takes guarding her tower seriously pic.twitter.com/RvnUma1SDC— Luv Kittens Daily (@LuvKittensDaily) June 17, 2014
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 17, 2014 9:02:02am |
re: #402 FemNaziBitch
Accidents only #5. We can do better America! (I’m looking at you Florida Man) ///
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CuriousLurker Jun 17, 2014 9:02:13am |
re: #342 Lidane
FALSE FLAG! IMPEACH! ELEVENTY!
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Heh, gotta love the way POTUS does things: Kill Americans and one day, when you least expect it, I will send Special Forces to visit you in the middle of the night. Naturally, he’ll be criticized for it by the GOP for one reason or another.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:02:19am |
re: #411 Bulworth
re:
#402Alzheimer’s is up there much higher than I would have thought.
I guess we can be positive that crime is not on that list. Most of us will still live long enough to die of a horrible disease.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 9:02:31am |
re: #402 FemNaziBitch
HURR HURR THERE NOT COUNTIN ALLL TEH ELEVENTY GAZILLIONS OF ABORSHUNZ!!!!!!
NOT GUNS!! Abortion is the leading cause of death in America. #RedNationRising #2ndAmendment #UniteRight #tcot pic.twitter.com/PfI4aWnhNs— Christie (@ChristieC733) May 29, 2014
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:02:44am |
re: #416 Lidane
Kitteh is standing her ground:
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kitteh don’t need no firearm, fool.
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Targetpractice Jun 17, 2014 9:03:57am |
re: #408 Dr Lizardo
I predict there will be a lot of butthurt among the wingnuts with this capture of the Benghazi suspect.
Oh, without a doubt. There will be bitching that it took too long, that he’s being afforded a trial, that he’s only one guy, that it’s too “convenient,” that it’s a “distraction,” etc, etc.
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 9:04:25am |
re: #421 FemNaziBitch
kitteh don’t need no firearm, fool.
This is true. I have two feline overlords. All they need is their claws and their howling for food at stupid o’clock in the morning.
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makeitstop Jun 17, 2014 9:05:27am |
re: #412 klys
It’s almost like having a bunch of wingnuts one room over, except more coherent and will have a useful result.
Three years ago we had a second story built on our house. For 8 weeks, my wife and I lived in our basement with 3 cats and a dog. We had access to the bathroom, kitchen and my office, but the rest of the house was blocked off.
Once the construction was done and we could go into our living room, I felt like we were living in the Taj Mahal.
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klys Jun 17, 2014 9:05:29am |
re: #416 Lidane
I have that cat tower. Except mine actually has all the platforms set up and the cats have no need of a rifle.
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klys Jun 17, 2014 9:06:06am |
re: #424 makeitstop
Three years ago we had a second story built on our house. For 8 weeks, my wife and I lived in our basement with 3 cats and a dog. We had access to the bathroom, kitchen and my office, but the rest of the house was blocked off.
Once the construction was done and we could go into our living room, I felt like we were living in the Taj Mahal.
The floor is currently rumbling under my feet but I am strangely not compelled to check on the latest earthquakes.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 9:06:24am |
re:
#422
Dont matter ARE 4 heroes still dead because Obama and TALKING POINTS!!11
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Dr Lizardo Jun 17, 2014 9:07:16am |
re: #422 Targetpractice
Oh, without a doubt. There will be bitching that it took too long, that he’s being afforded a trial, that he’s only one guy, that it’s too “convenient,” that it’s a “distraction,” etc, etc.
Yep….I’m already seeing it over at FR. They’ve already started bitching about it.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:07:48am |
#Florida's governor just further restricted #abortion access in the state: http://t.co/yc97I6NuWH #prochoice #reprorights— Feminist Majority (@MajoritySpeaks) June 17, 2014
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klys Jun 17, 2014 9:09:07am |
From the amount of grinding noises I figure the water has been shut off.
Which brings me to the next question: what time is appropriate to knock on the neighbors’ door to see if I can use their bathroom?
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blueraven Jun 17, 2014 9:09:50am |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
I’m hesitant to include Iraq into the White House’s thinking on this, that’s a big can of worms. I would hope the timing is independent of the situation in Iraq.
You act like this was one very easy thing to do. Getting in, getting out, knowing his exact location and possible resistance in a very hostile environment.
The fact that he spoke to journalist 18 months ago bears no resemblance to capturing him, apparently without any injuries or fatalities.
So yes, timing and intelligence had to be damn near perfect.
Get over it. This is a good thing.
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 9:10:01am |
re:
#429
Just like only pure Amerckian PAtriots would…
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:10:03am |
#abducting women, crossing the border, #sextrafficking in the us.in-depth video investigation http://t.co/THefVG5yL7 http://t.co/7W2rLBWwML— Bruce Mayhew (@BruceKBC) June 17, 2014
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wrenchwench Jun 17, 2014 9:11:09am |
re: #432 klys
From the amount of grinding noises I figure the water has been shut off.
Which brings me to the next question: what time is appropriate to knock on the neighbors’ door to see if I can use their bathroom?
ASAPee
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 9:11:45am |
re:
#428
Yes, the long-delayed capture of the Benghazi! terrorist is a great reason to invite Senators McCain and Graham back on to do All The Sunday Talk Shows this week!!1
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Eventual Carrion Jun 17, 2014 9:11:56am |
re: #211 Lidane
Rebranding!
NC GOPer: Unlike Blacks Or Hispanics, ‘Traditional’ Population Isn’t Growing (VIDEO)
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Native American population is stagnant? They better step it up.
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Varek Raith Jun 17, 2014 9:13:29am |
re: #433 blueraven
You act like this was one very easy thing to do. Getting in, getting out, knowing his exact location and possible resistance in a very hostile environment.
The fact that he spoke to journalist 18 months ago bears no resemblance to capturing him, apparently without any injuries or fatalities.
So yes, timing and intelligence had to be damn near perfect.Get over it. This is a good thing.
He can’t and won’t.
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 9:14:00am |
That sound you are hearing is the sound of hundreds of twitter ribbons being taken off of avatars.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:14:38am |
The hardest thing I've done at work today is try to explain why the Kardashians are famous to an international student.— Mrs. World Cup ?? (@angyotensin) June 17, 2014
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 17, 2014 9:15:15am |
HURR HURR WHY HAVE LAWS!!!! BAN ALL TEH LAWS!!!! GUNSSSSSS!!!!!!
“@hartshornguy: No law ever prevented a crime. #tcot #tlot #tgdn #MakeDCListen #pjnet #2a pic.twitter.com/HHqoNeW3sI”— LetFreedomRingAgain (@donttreadonme65) June 17, 2014
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:15:36am |
re: #437 Bulworth
re:
#428Yes, the long-delayed capture of the Benghazi! terrorist is a great reason to invite Senators McCain and Graham back on to do All The Sunday Talk Shows this week!!1
So, is this guy guilty or is he a scapegoat to placate the GOP?
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Lidane Jun 17, 2014 9:16:02am |
Note to Self: PBO takes out terrorists on his weekends, even Father's Day.— Lex (@LuthorCEO) June 17, 2014
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Killgore Trout Jun 17, 2014 9:16:07am |
re: #433 blueraven
You act like this was one very easy thing to do. Getting in, getting out, knowing his exact location and possible resistance in a very hostile environment.
The fact that he spoke to journalist 18 months ago bears no resemblance to capturing him, apparently without any injuries or fatalities.
So yes, timing and intelligence had to be damn near perfect.Get over it. This is a good thing.
I’m not disputing this is a positive development, I’m just not willing to tie this in to the troubles in Iraq without evidence.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:16:31am |
re: #442 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR WHY HAVE LAWS!!!! BAN ALL TEH LAWS!!!! GUNSSSSSS!!!!!!
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Bullshit. I can think of several crimes I have not committed because I didn’t want to risk getting caught.
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CuriousLurker Jun 17, 2014 9:17:25am |
US captures #Benghazi suspect. Instead if deflating @GOP rants, questions 'conveniency' of timing capture - insists a conspiracy. #GOPcrazy— Steve Dill (@ThusSpokeDill) June 17, 2014
Fox talkers: “timing of #Benghazi capture is “too neat and too cute.” what's “the political motivation”?? um, justice for dead Americans?— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) June 17, 2014
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allegro Jun 17, 2014 9:18:10am |
re: #432 klys
From the amount of grinding noises I figure the water has been shut off.
Which brings me to the next question: what time is appropriate to knock on the neighbors’ door to see if I can use their bathroom?
Before you pee in your pants.
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Varek Raith Jun 17, 2014 9:18:15am |
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Bulworth Jun 17, 2014 9:18:31am |
re:
#442
Hurr hurr except for Abortionz laws which have stopped all numbers of abortions except we still have fiftyeightymillions abortions becuase Obmama!!1
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Targetpractice Jun 17, 2014 9:18:49am |
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klys Jun 17, 2014 9:19:11am |
re: #448 allegro
Before you pee in your pants.
I am moderating the caffeine intake until a vaguely more reasonable hour.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Jun 17, 2014 9:19:28am |
Today, several co-workers are showing off their cellphone videos. It appears that one of the more pressing social problems of our age is the fact that, although almost everyone now carries a reasonably capable digital video camera in their pocket all the time, very few people seem to understand that in order to film a subject you need to actually point the camera directly at the subject you want to film and hold it relatively steady for the duration of filming. This seems to be completely lost on a lot of people.
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b.d. Jun 17, 2014 9:19:37am |
Dear Wingnuts;
Yes, we time all of this perfectly just to jack with you.
Love;
The White House
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:20:30am |
Phung would have to start at the beginning, explaining that child sex exploitation is far from a phenomenon contained to distant, third-world corners of the globe.
Fifty-five percent of child pornography worldwide is produced in the US, and the FBI estimates that 100,000 to 300,000 minors are sold for sex each year nationally (that’s 10-30 percent of the global market). The average age that a minor starts working in the US skin trade is between 12 and 14, according to a 2005 University of Pennsylvania study titled “The Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children in the US, Canada, and Mexico.”
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blueraven Jun 17, 2014 9:21:11am |
re: #445 Killgore Trout
I’m not disputing this is a positive development, I’m just not willing to tie this in to the troubles in Iraq without evidence.
No, you just want to have it both ways with your passive aggressive BS
There will be complaints about what took so long and of course “question the timing” stuff. The guy wasn’t exactly hiding, he was giving press interviews.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:21:14am |
re: #453 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Today, several co-workers are showing off their cellphone videos. It appears that one of the more pressing social problems of our age is the fact that, although almost everyone now carries a reasonably capable digital video camera in their pocket all the time, very few people seem to understand that in order to film a subject you need to actually point the camera directly at the subject you want to film and hold it relatively steady for the duration of filming. This seems to be completely lost on a lot of people.
Cloverfield is real life!
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Dr. Matt Jun 17, 2014 9:21:36am |
Not one single person has ever said that laws are created to stop crime….ever. Laws are created to prevent crime and punish those who break them. Idiots.
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lawhawk Jun 17, 2014 9:25:03am |
re: #447 CuriousLurker
.@EricBoehlert Fox demands justice for Amb. Stevens & other Americans killed in Benghaz 24/7; now US nabbed one involved, it's a conspiracy— lawhawk (@lawhawk) June 17, 2014
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 17, 2014 9:26:05am |
re: #50 Pie-onist Overlord
“Terrorist fist bump” was The New Yorker
No, that was a parody of the wingnut meme which was started by Fox News.
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KerFuFFler Jun 17, 2014 9:26:12am |
I remember from about 20 years ago that the University of Michigan basketball team won some big game. The fans stormed through the college town portion of Ann Arbor, tearing awnings off shops, breaking windows and damaging cars.
The following day, the damage was blamed on the Hash Bash———a yearly gathering of marijuana enthusiasts advocating legalization while likely getting high on the “Diag”. The Hash Bash had never been associated with significant violence or property damage in all the years it had been held, but the local papers went with this absurd scenario since both the city and the U of M had been looking to shut it down and needed an excuse.
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Decatur Deb Jun 17, 2014 9:28:53am |
re: #301 lawhawk
An addled Texas governor says what?
“I’m more Jewish than you think I am,” - Gov. Rick Perry to Mark Leibovich.
He loves Levi’s bread.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Jun 17, 2014 9:29:00am |
re: #442 Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR WHY HAVE LAWS!!!! BAN ALL TEH LAWS!!!! GUNSSSSSS!!!!!!
No law ever prevented a crime.
If there are no laws, there can be no crime…
JUST GUNS!!!
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Decatur Deb Jun 17, 2014 9:30:17am |
re: #322 Lidane
Follow
WND pundit says the next president should “be a white Christian conservative” … cites Benghazi
Next president will be a white Christian conservative—HRC.
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:31:27am |
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KerFuFFler Jun 17, 2014 9:33:39am |
re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
If there are no laws, there can be no crime…
Wow, such a simple way to rid the country of ALL crime! //
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Decatur Deb Jun 17, 2014 9:35:32am |
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FemNaziBitch Jun 17, 2014 9:45:39am |
re: #467 Decatur Deb
Looks white enough, says she’s a Christian, and sat on the Walmart BoD.
conservative?
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Decatur Deb Jun 17, 2014 9:49:43am |
re: #468 FemNaziBitch
conservative?
Lot of liberals running globalist Walmart? She and the x-Pres are middle class welfare capitalists.
I still will have to work very hard to get her elected, probably going out of state again with the old OFA team, but don’t fool yourself.
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Eventual Carrion Jun 17, 2014 11:29:36am |
re: #355 Justanotherhuman
R heads are gonna spin…
U.S. captures Benghazi suspect in secret raid
“The officials said Ahmed Abu Khattala was captured near Benghazi by American troops, working alongside the FBI, following months of planning, and was now in U.S. custody “in a secure location outside Libya.” The officials said there were no casualties in the operation, and that all U.S. personnel involved have safely left Libya.
“Khattala’s apprehension is a major victory for the Obama administration, which has been criticized for having failed so far to bring those responsible for the Benghazi attacks to justice.
“One jubilant official called Khattala’s capture “a reminder that when the United States says it’s going to hold someone accountable and he will face justice, this is what we mean.” More
Should have sent Bush the Lesser after him. He might never have been found. After a year or so of looking Dubya would just declare he doesn’t think about him any more and that would be that.
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szilard Jun 17, 2014 2:08:10pm |
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I guess, those must be the special 7.5 minute NRO hours.
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