Gawker Fires Back at Chuck C. Johnson, Moves to Dismiss, Files Anti-SLAPP, Asks for Legal Fees

“This case is a transparent attempt to punish embarrassing - but fully legal - reporting”
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Gawker’s top-flight law firms fired back today at cyberstalker Chuck C. Johnson’s absurdly frivolous defamation lawsuit, filing an anti-SLAPP motion (SLAPP = Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) and a motion to dismiss the case entirely, and seeking to recover legal fees and court costs. (Thanks to @adamsteinbaugh for bringing it to my attention.)

I’m no lawyer so I don’t know how this will go, but there are two possibilities: 1) the case will be transferred, probably to California, (because filing it in Missouri is an obvious ploy to avoid California’s anti-SLAPP laws) and a court will rule on the anti-SLAPP motion, or 2) the case will be dismissed outright.

If it goes to California Gawker’s almost certainly going to win easily, because California’s anti-SLAPP statutes are designed to prevent exactly these kinds of suits, and they’re some of the strongest of their kind in the country.

Gawker’s legal team obviously spent quite a bit of time on these filings, so if/when Chuck is put on the hook for their costs it’s going to hurt. And the filings are … well, they’re things of beauty. So without further ado, here they are. Enjoy. I know I did.

(Perhaps my favorite part: Gawker’s lawyers actually used one of Chuck’s biggest boosters against him: the Daily Caller’s Betsy Rothstein. Beauty.)

The Anti-SLAPP motion:

Scribd Document

The motion to dismiss:

Scribd Document

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577 comments
1
GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:30:14pm

“If we don’t win, you don’t pay us!” says Chuck’s lawyer.

2
b.d.  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:35:30pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

“If we don’t win, you don’t pay us!” says Chuck’s lawyer.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:35:33pm

Chuck to his lawyer: “What the hell is an anti-SLAPP?!”
Lawyer:”Uhh, sorry, can’t hear you….*static sound*..bad reception….
Chuck: “I’m standing right here…”
Lawyer: “Uh, por faver senior, no hablus inglesh…”
Chuck: “Well at least I still have my hot Asian wife. Right honey…..honey?”
*door slams, footsteps quickly running away*

4
Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:37:36pm

Chuck would have better off calling Saul Goodman.

5
Kragar  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:37:46pm

What a delightful birthday present

6
Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:40:34pm
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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:44:28pm

The moment Chucky had this filed in Missouri, you could see this coming from across the country. There was no reason that the case was filed there, especially given that Gawker is a NY-based company and Chucky is based out of CA. It was done with the express attempt to try and circumvent the CA anti-SLAPP provisions.

There is no way any of this will end well for Chucky. None.

Chucky is going to be finding that losing access to Twitter is the least of his problems.

And I can’t say I’m sorry any of this is happening to him. He deserves every last bit of it.

Oh, and in the event that this case somehow survives this motion (which I really doubt), can you imagine the depositions and discovery?

Did you defecate on the floor?
Did you ever defecate on the floor in college?
Did you ever relieve yourself on a floor?
The depositions would have been epic in scatological references.

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coin operated  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:44:31pm

I’m going to love to see the response to this.
To the lawyers in the house…can CCJ drop the lawsuit and avoid getting SLAPP’d?

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:45:59pm

re: #8 coin operated

Not really familiar with the anti-SLAPP provisions in CA so I don’t know how it’d work.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:46:06pm

re: #8 coin operated

I’m going to love to see the response to this.
To the lawyers in the house…can CCJ drop the lawsuit and avoid getting SLAPP’d?

IANAL, but nope. If the court applies the anti-SLAPP statute, he’ll need to pay up.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:52:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:53:24pm

re: #8 coin operated

I’m going to love to see the response to this.
To the lawyers in the house…can CCJ drop the lawsuit and avoid getting SLAPP’d?

I believe that once an anti-SLAPP motion is filed, the plaintiff cannot voluntarily dismiss or amend at that point. Chuck so screwed.

13
Great White Snark  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:54:26pm

And the adage comes true again, time wounds all heels.

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makeitstop  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:57:01pm

re: #8 coin operated

I’m going to love to see the response to this.
To the lawyers in the house…can CCJ drop the lawsuit and avoid getting SLAPP’d?

According to the tweet in #6, nope.

He’s sca-rewed.

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:58:11pm

And speaking of idiots, the ever-wrong-about-everything Bill Kristol thinks there’s a dark-horse about to enter the GOP Clown Car. (I’ve bolded my favorite parts!) I’m laughing so hard, I’m crying.

Who could such a mysterious dark horse be? Well, it’s not as if every well-qualified contender is already on the field. Mitch Daniels was probably the most successful Republican governor of recent times, with federal executive experience to boot. Paul Ryan is the intellectual leader of Republicans in the House of Representatives, with national campaign experience. The House also features young but tested leaders like Jim Jordan, Trey Gowdy and Mike Pompeo. There is the leading elected representative of the 9/11 generation who has also been a very impressive freshman senator, Tom Cotton. There could be a saner and sounder version of Trump—another businessman who hasn’t held electoral office. And there are distinguished conservative leaders from outside politics; Justice Samuel Alito and General (ret.) Jack Keane come to mind.

Or, possibly, as Charles Pierce speculates: Also Lightning Lad, Zombie Calvin Coolidge, the Dionne quintuplets, and Trigger.​

esquire.com

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:58:17pm

In one of the motions, Gawker says they’re a Delaware based company doing business primarily in New York, their assets are in the Cayman Islands and they have one employee in Missouri that does business with the company over the internet. They have no offices or bank accounts in Missouri.

Just a tidbit!

[edited]

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 5:59:25pm

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:02:28pm

w. st. journal - Will Biden Run? Drama Creates Dilemma for Obama

not

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:03:34pm

Any SLC Lizards going to his sold out show in Sandy tonight? If so I’m jealous!

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coin operated  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:04:32pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Thank you. I was hoping that was the case.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:07:33pm

re: #15 BeachDem

Trey Gowdy? That would be so cool because I already have my Trey Gowdy Action Figure:

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Great White Snark  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:07:37pm

Awww crap.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:10:01pm

re: #22 Great White Snark

:(

At least NASCAR is safer than the past.

Remember this from July?

Dillon walks away from scary wreck

Shockingly, Austin Dillon was fine.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:11:17pm

Chuck invaded and vandalized the temple, and now he is being duly crucified. I guess he could compare himself to Jesus Christ, but with the good-guy/bad-guy roles reversed.

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EPR-radar  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:11:31pm

re: #15 BeachDem

Once one buys into the great lie that the Republican party is sane and filled with leaders instead of jackasses, I suppose all things become possible. But this business of talking about details of each clown’s makeup and attire as if the specific curve of the clown shoes is a qualification for president can still take me by surprise.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:11:45pm

re: #5 Kragar

What a delightful birthday present

Hau’oli la Hanau!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:13:12pm

The great thing about these filings is that they can serve as a template for anyone else Chuck tries to pull this shit with.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:14:22pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

The great thing about these filings is that they can serve as a template for anyone else Chuck tries to pull this shit with.

His summer of justice is not going so well.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:16:45pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I believe that once an anti-SLAPP motion is filed, the plaintiff cannot voluntarily dismiss or amend at that point. Chuck so screwed.

When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose. He’s invisible now, he’s got no secrets to reveal.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:18:51pm

re: #22 Great White Snark

Awww crap.

Colorado resident.

:’(

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makeitstop  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:19:00pm

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

His summer of justice is not going so well.

Well, it is a Summer of Justice if you think about it.

Chuck’s about to be taken to the woodshed financially, after losing his Twitter account.

I’d call that justice, although I’m sure CCJ would disagree.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:23:13pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:28:55pm

re: #22 Great White Snark

Awww crap.

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Just getting over the shock of that one. I got to see him race several times.

Gonna lay low the rest of the evening. My favorite sport was cruel again, and it hurts. I sure do not watch the sport for the danger, it’s to see someone like Justin master a machine and drive it like a great guitar player plays his instrument. This one hurts bad.

: (

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:29:19pm

re: #31 makeitstop

Well, it is a Summer of Justice if you think about it.

Chuck’s about to be taken to the woodshed financially, after losing his Twitter account.

I’d call that justice, although I’m sure CCJ would disagree.

He might have done better had he chosen (or could have afforded) a better lawyer. Instead, he chose another conservatarian millennial with an axe to grind as his attorney.

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b_sharp  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:31:23pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Just getting over the shock of that one. I got to see him race several times.

Gonna lay low the rest of the evening. My favorite sport was cruel again, and it hurts. I sure do not watch the sport for the danger, it’s to see someone like Justin master a machine and drive it like a great guitar player plays his instrument. This one hurts bad.

: (

Yah, I’m bummed like I was when Greg died.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:37:54pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Because wingnuts think a “Living Wage” means a worker wants “Free Stuff”

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Ruck  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:38:57pm

re: #7 lawhawk

The moment Chucky had this filed in Missouri, you could see this coming from across the country. There was no reason that the case was filed there, especially given that Gawker is a NY-based company and Chucky is based out of CA. It was done with the express attempt to try and circumvent the CA anti-SLAPP provisions.

I can’t think of a better summary of Chuckie Cheese (my preferred nom de jackass) than the fact that he is both arrogant and delusional enough to think such a transparent play would be a brilliant strategy no one would see through.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:40:20pm

re: #37 Ruck

I can’t think of a better summary of Chuckie Cheese (my preferred nom de jackass) than the fact that he is both arrogant and delusional enough to think such a transparent play would be a brilliant strategy no one would see through.

He had a cunning plan.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:40:46pm

NO, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Can Donald show, with like actual proof & shit, that “illegals” receive more government services than veterans? Because he can’t, this is just raw meat for his racist cult followers.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:40:54pm

*sigh*

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:41:16pm

Rachel Maddow is reporting there is a hot but unsubstantiated story going in Washington that President Obama has “given his blessing” to Joe Biden to run for Democrat nomination.

I’m too numb from the racing news to even consider what to think about this.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:41:59pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

Look how small the Great Salt Lake is. You can tell in this picture that is used to be much bigger in the very recent past.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:42:08pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

NO, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Can Donald show, with like actual proof & shit, that “illegals” receive more government services than veterans? Because he can’t, this is just raw meat for his racist cult followers.

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The Donald Tribble never made the claim, just re-tweeted it

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makeitstop  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:43:31pm

re: #37 Ruck

I can’t think of a better summary of Chuckie Cheese (my preferred nom de jackass) than the fact that he is both arrogant and delusional enough to think such a transparent play would be a brilliant strategy no one would see through.

That’s the root of all his problems - he fervently believes that he’s smarter than everybody else. He thought he could out-clever Twitter (and did until they caught on to the fact that he’s a liar), and he and his Missouri lawyer thought they cold outsmart Gawker and get paid.

There’s a reason Gawker’s lawyers bill out at hundreds of bucks an hour, while CCJ runs a crappy blog and does the podcast circuit. Chuck not being as smart as he thinks is a big part of it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:44:01pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

The Donald never made the claim, just re-tweeted it

Donald would never retweet a thing he didn’t totally own. Whoever originally tweeted that stupid shit, Donald owns it now.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:45:07pm

re: #37 Ruck

Welcome hatchling!

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:45:41pm

Lawyers and Tattoo Artists are not places where “Cheaper is just as Good” has much sway.

RBS

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:46:48pm

SO MUCH STUPIDS ON TEH TWITTERS
Cruz & Walker own this Stupid==>

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:49:21pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

SO MUCH STUPIDS ON TEH TWITTERS
Cruz & Walker own this Stupid==>

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You don’t exactly cancel a state visit by a national leader.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:49:35pm

re: #44 makeitstop

Chuck was obviously hoping Nick Denton would just make an offer to settle out of court. Oops!

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The War TARDIS  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:50:06pm

Erdogan needs to explain his support for Al-Qaeda to us and his people.

The kidnapping of a group of U.S.-trained moderate Syrians moments after they entered Syria last month to confront the Islamic State was orchestrated by Turkish intelligence, multiple rebel sources have told McClatchy.

The rebels say that the tipoff to al Qaida’s Nusra Front enabled Nusra to snatch many of the 54 graduates of the $500 million program on July 29 as soon as they entered Syria, dealing a humiliating blow to the Obama administration’s plans for confronting the Islamic State.

Rebels familiar with the events said they believe the arrival plans were leaked because Turkish officials were worried that while the group’s intended target was the Islamic State, the U.S.-trained Syrians would form a vanguard for attacking Islamist fighters that Turkey is close to, including Nusra and another major Islamist force, Ahrar al Sham.

A spokesman for the Turkish Foreign Ministry, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity, declined to respond to questions about the incident, saying any discussion of Turkey’s relationship with Nusra was off limits.

Read more here: mcclatchydc.com

Personally, he needs to go to the Hague. I am noticing the the AKP is losing even more support for the election in November.

They are now down to 38%. The Liberal CHP is at 28%, and the Kurdish HDP is at 13.8%.

I think the CHP and HDP need to have a non-compete clause. CHP runs in one area, and the HDP in others. And campaign together.

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:51:58pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

So what’s missing here (besides intelligence)? Any particular reason given for wanting to cancel “China’s” state visit? Maybe Scott Walker thinks it’s literal: ALL of China (all 1 bilion+) is going to be coming over here? Or just general xenophobia dribbling over?

Makes little sense even for Walker.

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Irving  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:52:04pm

re: #44 makeitstop

This, this, this. Chuckie has shown repeatedly that he thinks he’s clever, but he has to *prove* he’s clever by stupidly admitting to his cheap stunts. He needs an audience to affirm how smart he is. I’ve lost count of how many times he’s done some dirty trick or another and, instead of walking away quickly and letting things run their course, he makes coy, smarmy remarks that give the game away. He’s like the Riddler - clever, stupid, and annoying all in one.

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nines09  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:52:04pm

Chuck just entered “Paybacks.” Now the other shoe drops. Sweet.

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makeitstop  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:52:29pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Chuck was obviously hoping Nick Denton would just make an offer to settle out of court. Oops!

You’re probably right - hence the $60 million tag on the suit. He probably figured settling for, say, $5 mil would look like a bargain.

I think Denton just said ‘Fuck this guy, pull his skin off. Slowly.’

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:53:20pm

Later all.

Sure does sound like Biden is getting in this thing. Too much noise going around for him not to be.

And…screw Chuck C. Sick of that putz.

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coin operated  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:53:27pm

re: #55 makeitstop

You’re probably right - hence the $60 million tag on the suit. He probably figured settling for, say, $5 mil would look like a bargain.

I think Denton just said ‘Fuck this guy, pull his skin off. Slowly.’

I LOL’d

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:54:37pm

re: #49 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You don’t exactly cancel a state visit by a national leader.

How dare China allow its stock market to crash, causing the rest of the world to also dip!

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Great White Snark  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:54:59pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Just getting over the shock of that one. I got to see him race several times.

Gonna lay low the rest of the evening. My favorite sport was cruel again, and it hurts. I sure do not watch the sport for the danger, it’s to see someone like Justin master a machine and drive it like a great guitar player plays his instrument. This one hurts bad.

: (

A toast & quiet moment here to Justin Wilson the very fast man who went out doing what he did best. Showing us all how racing is done.

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Zamb  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:56:05pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

These bastards really have a firm grasp on foreign policy.
//

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 6:59:01pm

re: #52 Jay C

So what’s missing here (besides intelligence)? Any particular reason given for wanting to cancel “China’s” state visit? Maybe Scott Walker thinks it’s literal: ALL of China (all 1 bilion+) is going to be coming over here? Or just general xenophobia dribbling over?

Makes little sense even for Walker.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:04:07pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Why are his eyes not even?

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Jay C  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:05:26pm

re: #62 The War TARDIS

Why are his eyes not even?

His eyes are even: it’s his head that’s crooked….

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calochortus  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:06:09pm

re: #62 The War TARDIS

Why are his eyes not even?

People aren’t as symmetrical as they might be.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:06:25pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

SO MUCH STUPIDS ON TEH TWITTERS
Cruz & Walker own this Stupid==>

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A lot of wingnuts are still stuck in the McCarthy era and don’t realize that China was our ALLY during the latter part of the Cold War. Military dealings were low key, since China was still a communist country after all, but the alliance against the Soviets was very real nonetheless. This came to a screeching halt with the Tienanmen Square protests in 1989 but the Soviets were almost finished by then anyway.
Nixon’s rapprochement with the Chinese essentially reversed the balance in the Cold War, turning it from a three-sided conflict to a two-sided one, with the Soviets on the short end. It was quite possibly the foreign policy coup of the century. Nixon was a RINO as well as a crook though and the right and the Republican Party have largely forgotten that he ever existed.

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bratwurst  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:07:00pm

You might have assumed Trump was moving on, but no…

That is bad enough, but then comes the re-tweeting of his misogynistic fans:

Congrats GOP. You have found your leader.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:07:04pm

re: #62 The War TARDIS

Why are his eyes not even?

Might be Fetal Alcohol Syndrome

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makeitstop  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:07:20pm

Seen on Facebook…

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It's on his hat!  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:09:03pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

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Any SLC Lizards going to his sold out show in Sandy tonight? If so I’m jealous!

Hah, that thing’s great.

Saw his show here in July. It was amazing.

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coin operated  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:14:30pm

re: #66 bratwurst

You might have assumed Trump was moving on, but no…

Didn’t believe it for a second. The man relishes this conflict…he has Ailes by the short hairs and he knows it.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:16:20pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Look how small the Great Salt Lake is. You can tell in this picture that is used to be much bigger in the very recent past.

If you drive across the salt flats on I80 and look over to the surrounding mountains, you’ll see a numbers of benches indicating where the lake level stood at different points in time. The highest are hundreds of feet above the current level of the lake. For another factoid, the current lake level is approaching its historically lowest level since the level started being monitored back in the 1800s.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:23:55pm

Such Presidential. Very Leadership.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:25:47pm

re: #72 The Vicious Babushka

That is some rather egregious xenophobia. Yikes.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:28:07pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

That is some rather egregious xenophobia. Yikes.

UpDings for using both egregious and xenophobia in the same sentence.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:33:11pm

re: #74 Reality Based Steve

We’re smrt here!

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Nyet  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:35:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:38:17pm

re: #69 Deez Nuts for President

Hah, that thing’s great.

Saw his show here in July. It was amazing.

My wife and I went to see him as a joint anniversary gift. Freaking awesome show!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:41:12pm

re: #69 Deez Nuts for President

Hah, that thing’s great.

Saw his show here in July. It was amazing.

His closest show to the Bay Area for this tour was in Vegas.

I had a sad.

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bratwurst  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:49:40pm

Just turned on CNN to find Glenn Beck promoting his new ghostwritten anti-Islam screed and realized my sock drawer needs organizing.

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freetoken  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:51:11pm

So, I see the GOP candidates are trying to out-stoopid each other today.

The race to the bottom is a fast one.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:51:59pm

Did Jeb? ever get any suggestions about what he should call anchor babies American citizens?

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stpaulbear  Aug 24, 2015 • 7:58:35pm

I’m in kind of a Continental Drifters mood this evening so here’s a song for Chuck. Unlike the singer of this song (Peter Hosapple), Chuck will never learn his lesson.
Don’t Do What I Did

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:07:13pm

Heh, “eminent”.

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Kragar  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:13:16pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

For added fun, consider how many times they’ve called Obama a dictator

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The War TARDIS  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:15:20pm

Hey, for a radio show I watch, I need a list of the worst songs ever that have music videos.

They guy who runs it blacklisted TSwift.

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:20:12pm

re: #5 Kragar

What a delightful birthday present

Hey, you’re still here. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:22:29pm

re: #5 Kragar

What a delightful birthday present

I missed that earlier…. Happy Birthday Krager, and remember, any day where you don’t wake up in a hole with people throwing dirt on your face is a good one.

RBS

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Jenner7  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:26:25pm

re: #5 Kragar

Happy Birthday!

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:26:50pm

So I’m starting to get a bit bent out of shape. Am I being silly?

There’s new stories about Ashley Madison daily. The RCMP along with the FBI and Homeland Security (!!) are investigating. It’s, as Biden once famously said, a big fucking deal.

Why is this a bigger deal than the Target breach? Or BoA? I get it’s salacious. And sex sells (or doesn’t if you’ve read the latest info on marketing, but I digress).

Is this a bigger fucking deal than Target or BoA because it impacts mostly men? Is it that’s it’s affecting some powerful men? Am I being over sensitive?

Reality check me, please.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:34:09pm

re: #62 The War TARDIS

Why are his eyes not even?

Pay attention, I’ve been saying for months that his grandmother fucked a flatfish. He’s a quarter flounder.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:35:37pm

I don’t generally shill my pages in advance, but I’ve got a great one coming soon on the 10th Anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.

Stay tuned…

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:35:40pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Pay attention, I’ve been saying for months that his grandmother fucked a flatfish. He’s a quarter flounder.

With cheese? :-D

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The War TARDIS  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:35:42pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Makes sense to me.

I’ve noticed it, but was was holding back from saying anything.

Still need to know what the worst songs with Music Videos are.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:38:53pm

re: #89 WhatEVs

So I’m starting to get a bit bent out of shape. Am I being silly?

There’s new stories about Ashley Madison daily. The RCMP along with the FBI and Homeland Security (!!) are investigating. It’s, as Biden once famously said, a big fucking deal.

Why is this a bigger deal than the Target breach? Or BoA? I get it’s salacious. And sex sells (or doesn’t if you’ve read the latest info on marketing, but I digress).

Is this a bigger fucking deal than Target or BoA because it impacts mostly men? Is it that’s it’s affecting some powerful men? Am I being over sensitive?

Reality check me, please.

Mostly because of this:

I am from a country where homosexuality carries the death penalty. I studied in America the last several years and used Ashley Madison during that time. I was single, but used it because I am gay; gay sex is punishable by death in my home country so I wanted to keep my hookups extremely discreet. I only used AM to hook up with single guys.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SHARE THIS MESSAGE. I AM ABOUT TO BE KILLED, TORTURED, OR EXILED. AND I DID NOTHING WRONG. STOP THE HACK. EVEN IF ADULTERERS DESERVE IT I DO NOT. I AM BEING HONEST AND CAN PROVE IT IF YOU REFER TO ME A JOURNALIST/GOVERNMENT BODY THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO CORROBORATE MY STORY WITHOUT COMPROMISING MY IDENTITY.

Even if this particular guy isn’t legit, and I tend to think he is, the potential for people to literally lose their lives over this hack is real. It’s a fucked up world and actions like releasing the AM hack data are egregiously irresponsible.

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Great White Snark  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:42:05pm

re: #89 WhatEVs

Fwiw, and with word of at least some possible suicides… If my car insurance gets hacked, well first I’m required to have it, and at the end of the day it’s just no biggie if they find out I drive a weird car. OMG a Pacer!

So now we got the most private inclinations, and deliberately illicit to boot. Add the possibility of catching prominent men with indelicate hypocrisies, as multiplied by social media=viral!!

OTOH how stupid or obsessed do you have to be to put anything at an online service you would kill yourself over?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:42:24pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Also, the Target data breach didn’t come with an extortion demand attached.

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Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:42:28pm

Golf clap, CCJ, golf clap.

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PeterWolf  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:44:10pm

re: #96 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, the Target data breach didn’t come with an extortion demand attached.

Hard to extort or blackmail people when the data in question is widely available.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:45:31pm

re: #98 PeterWolf

Hard to extort or blackmail people when the data in question is widely available.

Credit card numbers weren’t - and they took that seriously enough to issue new ones. (Ask me how I know. -_-)

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:46:28pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Mostly because of this:

Even if this particular guy isn’t legit, and I tend to think he is, the potential for people to literally lose their lives over this hack is real. It’s a fucked up world and actions like releasing the AM hack data are egregiously irresponsible.

I’ve seen posts like that; one begging for a country who will take him to save his life. They definitely sound legit. And they break my heart. I wasn’t thinking of them. I should have.

Thanks for the reality check.

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Great White Snark  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:46:58pm

Ashley Madison is no more real than Aunt Jemima. First clue right there…

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PeterWolf  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:47:32pm

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Credit card numbers weren’t - and they took that seriously enough to issue new ones. (Ask me how I know. -_-)

In the case of Target, I know. In the case of Ashley Madison, not so. I was referring to Ashley Madison.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:48:28pm

re: #102 PeterWolf

In the case of Target, I know. In the case of Ashley Madison, not so. I was referring to Ashley Madison.

Ah, fair enough.

In this case, they definitely were looking to take down the site. Whether or not they would have released the data even if the site had come down is anyone’s guess.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:49:17pm

*sigh*

“This president has set a standard in Washington of lawlessness,” he said. “What I mean by that is this: If you don’t like the law, don’t enforce it. So if you don’t like the immigration laws, don’t enforce those and let there be sanctuary cities throughout the country and do nothing about it. If you don’t like the marijuana laws, don’t enforce the marijuana laws in certain states if they don’t feel like enforcing them.”

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PeterWolf  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:51:00pm

re: #103 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ah, fair enough.

In this case, they definitely were looking to take down the site. Whether or not they would have released the data even if the site had come down is anyone’s guess.

My money is on that they would have published the data, regardless.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:51:57pm

re: #105 PeterWolf

My money is on that they would have published the data, regardless.

Mine too.

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:52:47pm

re: #105 PeterWolf

My money is on that they would have published the data, regardless.

I agree.

There’s a $500,000 reward. That’s a lot of cash. They’re going to catch those involved, I think.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:53:55pm

Hey Charles, an idea. A way for LGF users to see when comments are edited in the Master Spy. Is that a thing? Can it be a thing?

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:57:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2015 • 8:59:18pm

re: #108 teleskiguy

Hey Charles, an idea. A way for LGF users to see when comments are edited in the Master Spy. Is that a thing? Can it be a thing?

Could be. Making a note.

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Great White Snark  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:00:09pm

First world rant
Is it time to stop pretending there is privacy online? “Online” is the end of privacy as we knew it before the web. Plus police cameras, stalkers, NSA/FBI data loggers at hubs, white hats, black hats, paparazzi, angry gamers, and anonymous have come to a sum of our private parts that make us involuntary exhibitionists.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:13:39pm

Smoke from a thousand miles away. Even on my bike ride today, I could notice. The air is smoky at my twenty.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:16:34pm

Well gang I’m off to bed. I spent the weekend battling either a stomach bug or I ate something that wasn’t good. In any case I’m 5 pounds lighter than I was Friday and still feeling weak. Trying to get my fluid and electrolyte levels back up where they should be. It was a shitty weekend.

RBS

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retired cynic  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:18:27pm

re: #113 Reality Based Steve

Not good at all. And definitely no fun! I gather your last sentence was not unintentional. Take care!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:18:39pm

re: #113 Reality Based Steve

Well gang I’m off to bed. I spent the weekend battling either a stomach bug or I ate something that wasn’t good. In any case I’m 5 pounds lighter than I was Friday and still feeling weak. Trying to get my fluid and electrolyte levels back up where they should be. It was a shitty weekend.

RBS

Pun intended?

Feel better, that’s always a lousy way to lose weight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:19:54pm

re: #113 Reality Based Steve

Rest well. Sending prayers your way.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:22:37pm

And you were pissed when you washed your pants with a twenty in the pocket.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:26:21pm

re: #117 teleskiguy

And you were pissed when you washed your pants with a twenty in the pocket.

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Thing is, he can get it back just as fast.

There’s also this:

His fortune stood at $31.2 billion after the decline.

So I think he’ll be just fine. :P

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:27:37pm

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:27:46pm

Just dropping this in here…
Rage warning.
*SMH*

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:27:57pm

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

Thing is, he can get it back just as fast.

Same with that twenty you left in your pocket that went through the wash.

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Varek Raith  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:28:40pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

DELETED

EXTERMINATE

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:29:39pm

re: #120 Teukka

Just dropping this in here…
Rage warning.
*SMH*

Google translate mangles it a little, but I get the basics. Man, that’s fucked up.

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:32:03pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

Google translate mangles it a little, but I get the basics. Man, that’s fucked up.

Worst part is that the extreme right seems to be gaining ground in a way similar to how Drumpfenstein gains ground, at least here in Sweden.
I have yet to determine whether there is any likelihood that Drumpfensteins antics have an effect on this side of the pond, or whether this is a fluke caused by similar ideological currents in the Western world.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:40:19pm

re: #124 Teukka

I would guess the latter, but I don’t know a lot about Swedish politics.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:44:00pm

Thanos shared a new New Yorker article about Trump. It’s disturbing as all hell.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:48:00pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Pay attention, I’ve been saying for months that his grandmother fucked a flatfish. He’s a quarter flounder.

Innsmouth look.

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AyaReiko  Aug 24, 2015 • 9:51:10pm

On one hand, we have CCJ, who is a sleazeball.
On the other, we have Gawker, who is a sleazeball.

No matter who wins, the world loses.

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:00:02pm

re: #128 AyaReiko

On one hand, we have CCJ, who is a sleazeball.
On the other, we have Gawker, who is a sleazeball.

No matter who wins, the world loses.

That pretty well sums it up.

Could have been worse, I suppose. Could have been TMZ.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:13:38pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

*sigh*

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Was there a mention of heroin in that?

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TedStriker  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:16:51pm

re: #128 AyaReiko

On one hand, we have CCJ, who is a sleazeball.
On the other, we have Gawker, who is a sleazeball.

No matter who wins, the world loses.

re: #129 WhatEVs

That pretty well sums it up.

Could have been worse, I suppose. Could have been TMZ.

That’s OK, because, IIRC, isn’t the Hulkster queued up to give Gawker Media a legal beating they might not survive?

On second thought, this too would be “no matter who wins, we lose.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:19:39pm

re: #37 Ruck

I can’t think of a better summary of Chuckie Cheese (my preferred nom de jackass) than the fact that he is both arrogant and delusional enough to think such a transparent play would be a brilliant strategy no one would see through.

You’re in good company here.

It’s a hell of a coincidence that Charles C. Johnson (I call him UpChuck) and Charles F. Johnson (our humble host) have the same first and last names and do internet stuff. We’ve been on this asshole’s case since this dipshit decided to completely change the face of journalism, or some such fuckery.

Charles here does internet stuff better than about every person or personality that I can think of that I’ve seen on the internet. UpChuck had a Twitter account for six years and spouted absolute nonsense and he’s circling the drain.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:21:55pm

re: #130 austin_blue

Was there a mention of heroin in that?

There’s a short shot in Christie’s ad of some dude putting a needle in his arm and keeling over on a dirty floor.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:23:22pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

You’re in good company here.

It’s a hell of a coincidence that Charles C. Johnson (I call him UpChuck) and Charles F. Johnson (our humble host) have the same first and last names and do internet stuff. We’ve been on this asshole’s case since this dipshit decided to completely change the face of journalism, or some such fuckery.

Charles here does internet stuff better than about every person or personality that I can think of that I’ve seen on the internet. UpChuck had a Twitter account for six years and spouted absolute nonsense and he’s circling the drain.

Well, it’s late, and we’ve all had a few pops…

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:24:36pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

There’s a short shot in Christie’s ad of some dude putting a needle in his arm and keeling over on a dirty floor.

Damn diabetics!

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:28:38pm
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Lancelot Link  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:33:56pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

The heroin overdose rate in New Jersey is three times the rate for the rest of the US.

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retired cynic  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:35:35pm

re: #137 Lancelot Link

Look at how good Christie is at controlling that… oh… wait.

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WhatEVs  Aug 24, 2015 • 10:37:46pm

re: #137 Lancelot Link

The heroin overdose rate in New Jersey is three times the rate for the rest of the US.

So the guy in charge of the state can’t hack it, blames the POTUS? Yeah, Christie, he of that infamous GOP personal responsibility (for anyone not GOP).

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 24, 2015 • 11:01:08pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

There’s a short shot in Christie’s ad of some dude putting a needle in his arm and keeling over on a dirty floor.

…A dream they say of a golden arm, and a man they called Frankie the machine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2015 • 11:32:22pm

It’s easy to hate cheaters.

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bonford  Aug 24, 2015 • 11:38:19pm

Charles

Do you have a link for the pdf? ScribD seems to be designed by someone who doesn’t like people. Or at least people using iPads.

Love your blog btw, not trying to be overly complainy.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 24, 2015 • 11:42:31pm

ISIS maybe losing its grip on Mosul.

The walls of some seven streets in the Iraqi city of Mosul were covered with graffiti that called for rebellion against the radical group of the Islamic State (IS/ISIS), local activists reported on Friday. Subsequently, the group imposed a curfew on civilians in the city that was seized by IS in June 2014.

“The graffiti reflected our outrage about the atrocities of Daesh (IS) terrorists. They also reflected the hunger and deteriorating living conditions that people are suffering under the rule of the alleged caliphate,” an Iraqi activist in Mosul told ARA News on the condition of anonymity.

A group of anti-IS activists launched last week a campaign calling on the people of Mosul to revolt against the Islamic State.

Some of the graffiti vowed the extremist group that “Mosul will be liberated soon”, threatening to kill the militant leaders “who caused a lot of suffering for civilians” in the city, the same source reported.

Speaking to ARA News on the phone, Abdullah al-Malla, a resident of Mosul, said: “Daesh (IS) has executed hundreds of innocent civilians, including women, under the pretext of violating Sharia regulations. We are Muslims and we are familiar with Sharia, but Daesh has created its own Sharia based on terrorism and the group has given itself the right to take lives. We won’t stay silent on all those atrocities.”

At the end of this, we really need to discuss if Iraq should be allowed to break apart. Let Iraqi Kurdistan have independence, the Sunni portion join Jordan, and Shia portion become its own nation as well.

Still, even if we defeat ISIS, radicalism will continue to come back, as Saudi still peddles their shit. The only way this ends is if the Saudi Government is dismantled. Preferably by Force, like the Ottomans and Egyptians did 200 years ago, to prevent them from coming back.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2015 • 12:31:37am

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker Sees State’s Business With China “Taking Off”

“In a lot of states in America, we𠆝 like to have that kind of slow growth they are projecting” even in some of China’s slower-expanding regions, said Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker in an interview in Shanghai last week. “We’re still very big on doing business in Shanghai in particular, but throughout the country, “ said Walker, expressing confidence that commerce between China and his state would increase quickly in the future. “I just see it taking off,” he said.

Walker was in China last week to help boost exchanges between one of the world’s fastes-growing major economies and the U.S. Midwestern state. He attended a China-U.S. Governors Forum in Beijing and Tianjin before arriving in Shanghai to open a new state office to promote trade and other exchanges. (See earlier post here.) Walker met Chinese President Xi Jinping on his trip.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 12:31:39am
And the Howard article lays out how it was prompted by Johnson’s own Facebook post touting his “notoriety” and “success,” lambasting his critics as “weaker people,” followed by Johnson’s e-mail to Howard pointing out and preemptively denying rumors posted on his Facebook site, which Howard included in his article.

I knew this was going to end up in Gawker’s answer, Chuck was the first one to mention the floor shitting allegation. And he did so within correspondence to a reporter he knew was writing a story about him.

He’s not very smart.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 12:37:58am
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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2015 • 12:44:36am

The GOP Establishment is starting to warm up to a Trump Administration.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 25, 2015 • 12:49:37am

re: #147 teleskiguy

Priebus: Trump is ‘net positive’

Interview from last night.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 1:03:46am

re: #147 teleskiguy

The GOP Establishment is starting to warm up to a Trump Administration.

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LOL. There’s literally no other answer he could give. Trump is holding his party’s base & largest single voting block hostage, and Reince can’t risk alienating them. From his perspective he might as well be negotiating with a terrorist, and figures his best bet is to buy time and placate Trump as much as possible until SWAT makes their entry.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2015 • 1:07:21am

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

Except of course there is no SWAT team coming to save the GOP. They either surround Trump and metaphorically stab him like Caesar, which all but guarantees a third party run, or they continue to let him run their show.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 1:45:17am

So the general manager decides today to tell me in the middle of my morning shift “We want you to train for night audit (i.e. graveyard shift), can you come in tonight to train for a few hours?” And doesn’t offer me the chance to leave early to get some rest, so I worked my full shift, came home to get 2-3 hours sleep, then turned around and worked another 4 training.

At least today’s my day off, or else I might have to hurt someone.

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Jayleia  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:26:38am

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

At the rate things are going…I’m not sure if it would be metaphorical.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:53:19am

re: #120 Teukka

Being a Nazi is being the worst parody of yourself.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:54:20am

re: #153 Nyet

Being a Nazi is being the worst parody of yourself.

You mean like so bad a parody it ain’t fun anymore?

*nods*

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:55:23am

re: #154 Teukka

Certainly that, but also being stereotypical as hell.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 2:57:32am

Uh oh.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:09:56am

re: #155 Nyet

Certainly that, but also being stereotypical as hell.

Yep. Seen that. Don’t know whether to laugh or to cry.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:38:09am
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No Depression  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:54:04am

re: #147 teleskiguy

The GOP Establishment is starting to warm up resign themselves to a Trump Administration disaster.

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FTFY :)

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:58:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:18:46am

re: #156 Nyet

Uh oh.

[barrel of oil ]Now 42.44$

They woulda been better off economically just leasing their oil production out to the highest bidder back when the price was still still high.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:20:06am

re: #160 Nyet

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Video

pool is gonna be ruined from those claws, though. poor kid

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:36:21am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If the manufacturer of those pools is minimally smart, they will pay good money to use the footage in an ad. A pool that did not come apart under the mama bear’s weight is a sturdy pool indeed.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:46:05am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I’m sure if the parents started a Kickstarter to pay for a new pool, they could raise enough for at least five. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:55:43am

TEXAS

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:01:45am

Donald is blaming Jeb! for the “anchor baby” brouhaha THAT HE STARTED

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:03:29am

re: #166 The Vicious Babushka

Donald is self-consistent - not afraid of using the term unapologetically, whereas Bush waffles.

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:05:31am

re: #52 Jay C

So what’s missing here (besides intelligence)? Any particular reason given for wanting to cancel “China’s” state visit? Maybe Scott Walker thinks it’s literal: ALL of China (all 1 bilion+) is going to be coming over here? Or just general xenophobia dribbling over?

Makes little sense even for Walker.

GOP presidential candidates are making very little sense these days as they flail around reacting to Trump. For example, Jeb! stuck his foot in his mouth again that its not Hispanic anchor babies he hates, its Asian anchor babies, thereby insulting America’s fastest growing minority.
vox.com

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:09:27am

re: #166 The Vicious Babushka

Donald is blaming Jeb! for the “anchor baby” brouhaha THAT HE STARTED

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It shows incredible incompetence in the Bush campaign that he thought he could use the term anchor babies in the first place (I wonder if his wife and kids had anything to say to him about that) and that he then thought a good way to extricate himself from it was to slam Asians. Jeb is such a bad candidate that I’m having doubts that all the money in the world can save his candidacy.

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:15:52am

re: #144 Amory Blaine

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Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker Sees State’s Business With China “Taking Off”

And then he tweets that Obama should cancel a state visit from China? The Chinese Walker was trying to do business with take slights like these seriously.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:25:18am

The other day this ran across the wires:

CHURCH ORGANIST SEES JESUS IN COCKTAIL CABINET

As reported by the Plymouth Herald, 35-year-old Robert Burgess-Moon experienced the Christ-like apparition while watching TV at home in Whitleigh.

Burgess-Moon bought the cabinet after replying to an advert in the classified section of the Herald. One night he felt like he was being watched as he watched TV with his partner Martin.

“I thought ‘There’s a face looking at me through the cabinet’. It looked like the face of Jesus, the image everybody has of him,” he told the paper.

“We were quite shocked, it was just not something you expect, it’s like a Holy Spirit cabinet now,” he joked.

Burgess-Moon confessed to the paper that it took Martin a while to come around to the idea that it was in fact the image of Jesus on the cabinet.

“He couldn’t see it to begin with, but when I pointed it out to him it stands out,” he said.

[…]

And now:

Plymouth church organist shocked at popularity of ‘Jesus face in cabinet’ story

[…]

The tale attracted more than 30,000 hits on plymouthherald.co.uk and sparked the interest of people around the world.

Mr Burgess-Moon, who lives in Whitleigh with his partner, Martin, says he has mixed feelings about the story’s growing popularity.

“I think its good, but I don’t like all the comments online,” he said.

I think I should have been warned what to expect, that some of those comments are vile and nasty.

[…]

Imagine that, vile and nasty comments online. Who could have guessed that one?

“I think the cabinet speaks for itself, proving God moves in mysterious ways.”

Mysterious, indeed.

You tell me - do you see Je$u$:

Image: 10803654.jpg

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:27:56am
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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:33:45am

re: #171 freetoken

I’m told there’s medicine for that.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:23am

re: #172 freetoken

I see a zombie face.

Albeit it’s not necessarily a contradiction.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:34:39am

re: #171 freetoken

That’s not Jesus…
That’s Odin if I ever saw him…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:36:00am

GOP voters have absolutely proven to be undeniable low-information voters by continuing to support the caveman Trump:

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:37:34am

re: #172 freetoken

Maybe on the left side it’s Jesus, but who’s the creepy feminine-looking Aryan on the right?

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:38:17am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I believe that once an anti-SLAPP motion is filed, the plaintiff cannot voluntarily dismiss or amend at that point. Chuck so screwed.

In that case UpChuck is about to be SLAPPed silly.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:38:56am

How a Russian nationalist painter sees Christ and anti-Christ. They look pretty much the same. So who are you seeing in the cabinet, the former or the latter?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:45:31am

White supremacist NatRev has teh sads that John Oliver’s Tax-Free Church is making grift moneys==>

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Doofus  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:46:35am
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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:51:38am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

NR’s solution, and I quote: “let the Almighty right this wrong”.

Go and die, NR.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:54:25am

Here’s the radical idea: tax the religious orgs.

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Doofus  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:55:14am

re: #179 Nyet

The Anti-Christ has a bifurcated tail.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:06am

re: #183 Nyet

Here’s the radical idea: tax the religious orgs.

Counting down to the inevitable calls of WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDUMB!? PINKO COMMIE BASTARD!!!! ELEVENY!!!111!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:56:10am

Here is the thing, Ms. Muhgunz!!! there has been no evidence of felonious activity committed by anyone except the “Center for Medical Progress”

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:58:37am

re: #179 Nyet

How a Russian nationalist painter sees Christ and anti-Christ. They look pretty much the same. So who are you seeing in the cabinet, the former or the latter?

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So Aryan Christ is the good one! I’m sure there were a lot of blue eyed Jews in Israel 2,000 years ago./

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:59:45am

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

As I posted downstairs, he gonna get Slapped….

How I Met Your Mother - You Just Got Slapped - Marshall Eriksen feat. Barney Stinson

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 5:59:52am

re: #187 aagcobb

So Aryan Christ is the good one! I’m sure there were a lot of blue eyed Jews in Israel 2,000 years ago./

Superman and Bizarro Superman.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:02:40am

re: #187 aagcobb

So Aryan Christ is the good one! I’m sure there were a lot of blue eyed Jews in Israel 2,000 years ago./

Acc. to the painting it’s the Antichrist who is the Jewish one, look at the half-hidden Star of David. While the Aryan Christ wears a swastika-filled ornament ;)

The former is an ancient meme still believed by millions today. Here’s Falwell:

“The church fathers generally believed in a personal Antichrist.
In fact, one of the most famous, John Chrysostom, (347-407 A.D.) held
that the Antichrist would be a Jewish dictator from the tribe of Dan

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:04:12am

re: #179 Nyet

How a Russian nationalist painter sees Christ and anti-Christ. They look pretty much the same. So who are you seeing in the cabinet, the former or the latter?

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Is it just me, or does the blue star of David on the anti-Christ ring alarm bells for others here too?

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:05:36am

re: #183 Nyet

Here’s the radical idea: tax the religious orgs.

There’s no way that politicians would ever go for that, even though the nonprofit law and charitable entity provisions need a thorough revamping (see the whole IRS kerfuffle with the politically active entities for example).

If you eliminate the nonprofit exemption, you’d be able to expand the tax base accordingly, reducing the tax burden on everyone else (if you choose to reduce the tax rates). Or else generate more revenue with the same rates.

This kind of change would hurt smaller churches more than larger ones, and since most states piggyback on the IRC, it would mean that the states would have to revamp their exemptions as well - or they may well choose to keep the exemptions in place by keeping the nonprofit provisions as they existed before they were changed at the federal level.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:05:38am

re: #169 aagcobb

JEB!’s attempts to redeem his anchor baby remarks strongly suggests that there is no smart Bush brother. It looks like Ma Bush just threw a bad litter.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:08:05am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

White supremacist NatRev has teh sads that John Oliver’s Tax-Free Church is making grift moneys==>

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National review is not white supremacist, and what Ian Tuttle is saying is that the giving more power to the IRS is not the right solution to dishonest evangelists. The reason is that such powers will inevitably used to attack religious figures who say things the IRS or the president don’t want said.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:08:23am

re: #191 Teukka

See above. No wonder the author was Putin’s official “doverennoye litso” (confidant) during the last presidential “elections”.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:11:11am

re: #179 Nyet

How a Russian nationalist painter sees Christ and anti-Christ. They look pretty much the same. So who are you seeing in the cabinet, the former or the latter?

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I wonder why he put the little notch in the left image’s beard to form the “W” like bottom? Strange.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:12:24am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

What to one man may be “dishonesty” is another man’s business model.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:13:55am

re: #195 Nyet

See above. No wonder the author was Putin’s official “doverennoye litso” (confidant) during the last presidential “elections”.

Ah, noticed #190 just now. I just shudder at what mess Russia has the potential to become, to the worlds detriment.

*SMH*

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:14:17am

re: #196 ObserverArt

I wonder why he put the little notch in the left image’s beard to form the “W” like bottom? Strange.

The “split” beard is a thing in iconography of Jesus, you can see it on lots of paintings and icons, Western and Eastern.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:16:23am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

Not the GOP’s problem. If the admin wants to defund gov’t to subsidize felonious sale of infant parts, it’s on admin

To the extent I understand this word salad, is Dana Gunz suggesting the GOP can shut down the government over PP funding and not get blamed?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:16:42am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

National review is not white supremacist..

Not openly, like Takimag. They prefer to keep it somewhat concealed. But the basic messages are the same.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:16:45am

re: #197 freetoken

What to one man may be “dishonesty” is another man’s business model.

I’m aware. But in this country religion has privileges and rights greater than those of normal businesses. And given the hold it can have on people’s minds, that’s for the best. John Oliver’s plan would, if implemented, likely be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. And it would be a 7-2 ruling, at minimum.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:18:38am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

National review is not white supremacist, and what Ian Tuttle is saying is that the giving more power to the IRS is not the right solution to dishonest evangelists. The reason is that such powers will inevitably used to attack religious figures who say things the IRS or the president don’t want said.

Nat Review has repeatedly hired enough white supremacists that they’ve later fired, that you’ve got to wonder what the hell they were thinking keeping them on the payroll for as long as they have. Once is a mistake, but 3 or more times is a trend. Derbyshire, Richwine, Weissberg, etc.

As for the IRS, the Internal Revenue Code requires that the IRS to evaluate whether an entity meets the qualifications of a nonprofit under the various provisions of IRC 501. That can include auditing, requesting additional information, etc. This can and should be required for all entities. It isn’t an attack on religious figures for political speech, but rather hewing to the plain language of the IRC, which requires that they do not engage in political speech:

(3)Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:18:51am
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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:19:10am

re: #199 Nyet

E.g. from the fake medieval “letter of Lentulus”:

en.wikipedia.org

His beard is abundant, of the colour of his hair, not long, but divided at the chin.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:22:38am

re: #192 lawhawk

This kind of change would hurt smaller churches more than larger ones

Progressive taxation?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:22:45am

re: #191 Teukka

Is it just me, or does the blue star of David on the anti-Christ ring alarm bells for others here too?

I see 5-pointed stars, not a Star of David

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:23:49am

re: #199 Nyet

The “split” beard is a thing in iconography of Jesus, you can see it on lots of paintings and icons, Western and Eastern.

Funny, this image doesn’t not have the split beard…

…or the blue eyes!

BBC Library depicts what scientists believe Jesus might have looked like.
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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:23:55am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

I see 5-pointed stars, not a Star of David

Just below the beard of the right dude, it’s partial but I know the angles of a star of David.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:01am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

SoD is in the middle.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:24:34am

re: #208 ObserverArt

But it’s not the image of Jesus either :P

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:49am
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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:26:53am

re: #205 Nyet

E.g. from the fake medieval “letter of Lentulus”:

Must have had a very distinctive cleft in his chin it caused a separation in the beard. It’s a miracle!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:27:07am
Gawker’s legal team obviously spent quite a bit of time on these filings, so if/when Chuck is put on the hook for their costs it’s going to hurt. And the filings are … well, they’re things of beauty. So without further ado, here they are. Enjoy. I know I did.

[CCJ]OK, uh, so, like, when do I get my money? And my Twitter account back?[/CCJ]

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:28:44am

re: #213 ObserverArt

Here are some classical iconographic examples: ussr-2.ru

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:13am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

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That angle is a funny angle for a sad story, but the the thing to remember is that Cecil would have done that himself if he was hungry. Lions are predators and they’ll eat a human without any regrets.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:19am

The US is collapsing. The sky is falling. It’s all Obama’s fault for eating snow cones when he should be doing something. Donald Trump says we must act, and the president isn’t. Obama’s a failure.

Oh wait, that was yesterday AM. Today?

*sigh*

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:32:37am

re: #190 Nyet

The Falwell quote is hilarious; “…a Jewish dictator from the tribe of Dan.” The pages of history are just littered with names like Attila the Mensch.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:34:53am

re: #218 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The Falwell quote is hilarious; “…a Jewish dictator from the tribe of Dan.” The pages of history are just littered with names like Attila the Mensch.

Ghengis Goyim.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:36:20am

re: #218 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If you listen to those folks, the most famous dictators like Hitler and Stalin were Jewish.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:36:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:37:18am

re: #220 Nyet

If you listen to those folks, the most famous dictators like Hitler and Stalin were Jewish.

Kublai Cohen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:40:54am

Except that the DoJ report “corroborates” no such thing, unless you’re reading Breitbart or Daily Caller.
Devlin doesn’t even link to anything, reputable or otherwise.

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:42:11am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Funny, this image doesn’t not have the split beard…

…or the blue eyes!

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That’s the anti-Christ; Jesus was a Viking Jew./

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:43:02am

re: #224 aagcobb

That’s the anti-Christ; Jesus was a Viking Jew./

A.k.a. “White Christ”.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:45:44am

re: #225 Teukka

A.k.a. “White Christ”.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:30am

So it’s gotten cooler in my part of the world. Yesterday, I spent about 6 hours in the garage (without the fan) sorting and sweeping.

I actually feel that I accomplished something.

you?

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:47:36am

Some here have worried that Trump, if nominated might actually get elected. Here is why he won’t. Hillary is at +40% with Hispanic voters and Trump is -51%. Trump can’t win the general, which means Trump winning the GOP nomination is a best case scenario for the Democrats. And the GOP field is so bad, its beginning to look like a real possibility. We won’t know for sure until some GOP candidates with actual support start dropping out and we see where their support goes. If Trump hasn’t hit a ceiling, and his support keeps growing rather than GOP voters coalescing around an anti-Trump candidate, he absolutely could be the nominee.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:48:30am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Devlin doesn’t even link to anything, reputable or otherwise.

Yous the Googles we don’t have to do ur research 4 u!!!

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:49:50am

re: #215 Nyet

Here are some classical iconographic examples: ussr-2.ru

I just did a Google image search…yeah, the beards are split in many images. This artist just decided to stylize it more into very distinct points.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:52:11am
Guru Jesus-Bascilica of the National Shrine, Wash D.C

American Jesus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:54:09am

re: #221 lawhawk

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:54:46am

Ethiopian Jesus . Ethiopian Illustrated Manuscripts are as old (and maybe older, I can’t remember) than the Book of Kells.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:55:02am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:57:05am

re: #234 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Yes. It is the lead head line at wsj.com.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:57:57am

re: #234 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Stock Market bounces back …

Well, that’s because Obama hasn’t had a snow cone yet. Once he does, well…

///

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:58:15am

re: #235 PhillyPretzel

Yes. It is the lead head line at wsj.com.

It has to be, given the WSJ’s focus. It can’t ignore a rebound, however much Newscorp as a whole would like to.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:58:16am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interestingly enough, the filing does call the initial allegations “corroborated”.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:59:16am

re: #231 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

“Guys, stop it, my head’s about to asplode!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 6:59:51am

re: #238 Nyet

Interestingly enough, the filing does call the initial allegations “corroborated”.

Yes, but there are still allegations, and that is nothing new to vindicate CCJ.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:00:18am

re: #233 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

There’s also the Chinese Jesus, and so on.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:01:24am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

What does corroborated mean in this context?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:18am
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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:35am

Devlin said that the Feds called the allegation corroborated. They did call it corroborated.

Now, what it means is a good question, but he didn’t lie.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:03:44am

re: #234 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

re: #237 Dark_Falcon

Some more good news oil is under $40 a barrel. kitco.com

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:49am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Funny, this image doesn’t not have the split beard…

…or the blue eyes!

[Embedded content]

Thing is, I like this Jesus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:04:58am

re: #242 Nyet

What does corroborated mean in this context?

Back when the allegations were first made, DoJ found others that said they also saw prostitutes who looked like they could be underage.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:05:16am

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

Some more good news oil is under $40 a barrel. kitco.com

And the Keystone Pipeline expansion is now pointless.
Unprofitable at such low prices.
:)

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CleverToad  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:05:33am

re: #203 lawhawk

Removing the non-profit tax breaks would definitely hurt small churches more than the mega-arena variety. ‘Prosperity Gospel’ is a frustrating heresy; a manse shouldn’t be a mansion. Don’t expect the for-profit churches to get a crackdown anytime soon, but I wish there was a way to enforce those clear IRS guidelines on political activity. It bugs me even more to watch the open and coordinated defiance of the preachers who deliberately deliver political sermons and dare the IRS to come after them for violating the rules. I want to live long enough to see some of them face financial consequences for that stunt.

Yeah, I know — in this political climate? Cue up “The Impossible Dream” again…

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:06:22am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

So the allegation was not meritless or malicious, whether in the end it was true or not.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:06:46am

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

Some more good news oil is under $40 a barrel. kitco.com

I heard the price of oil on the car radio the other day. I haven’t been paying attention. Wasn’t it approaching $150 not too long ago?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:06:56am

re: #199 Nyet

The “split” beard is a thing in iconography of Jesus, you can see it on lots of paintings and icons, Western and Eastern.

So, dinosaur riding Jesus here is actually the anti-christ?

While Buddy Christ at least gives the impression of a split beard

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:08:14am

Buddy Christ creeps me out.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:08:34am

re: #252 FormerDirtDart

Of course, who else would ride those terror machines!

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:08:49am

re: #253 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Buddy Christ creeps me out.

Was designed to do so.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:08:59am

re: #251 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Yes. And there were quite a few folks who thought it would hit $200. I am happy to see they are wrong at the moment.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:09:10am

re: #253 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Buddy Christ creeps me out.

What about Fonzie Christ?
Ehhhhh!

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:10:05am

BBT

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:11:03am

re: #241 Nyet

There’s also the Chinese Jesus, and so on.

The Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth has all manner of Jesus and Mary depictions. Pretty interesting to see how they are depicted across cultures.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:11:53am

Jesus was a Grey.
Fact.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:12:19am
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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:14:08am

re: #243 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Ferguson judge withdraws all arrest warrants before 2015

That’s long overdue, and is a small step towards rectifying the problems in the community, which the town leaders saw as a piggy bank since the fees would quickly add up and they’d have no way to avoid jail or further fines. The system there was essentially a black hole of justice. Once you fell into its orbit, there was no escape.

Sadly, Ferguson is hardly alone with this - there are far too many other communities that treat minorities in the same way.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:14:17am

re: #220 Nyet

If you listen to those folks, the most famous dictators like Hitler and Stalin were Jewish.

While I Googled that Jacob Rothschild meme I found some weird shit claiming HITLER WAS A ROTHSCHILD!!!1!!!

The fact is the Rothschilds are kind of meh, they are only single-digit billionaires. Not even in the Forbes Top 100.

I know a lady who is a direct descendant of the Rothschilds and she is only a thousandaire.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:16:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:16:50am

This just happened and is a really big deal:

APNewsBreak: Ohio Zoo Sending Endangered Rhino to Indonesia

An Ohio zoo that has the last Sumatran rhino in the United States on Tuesday announced plans to send the endangered species to Southeast Asia on a mission to mate.

Conservation experts at the Cincinnati Zoo say 8-year-old Harapan will soon be on his way to Indonesia, where nearly all of the estimated 100 remaining Sumatran rhinos live. Numbers of the two-horned descendants of Ice Age wooly rhinos have fallen by some 90 percent since the mid-1980s as development of their Southeast Asia forest habitat and poachers seeking their prized horns took their toll.

Cincinnati’s zoo has been a pioneer in breeding the species, producing the first three born in captivity in modern times. Harapan will join the eldest, Andalas, who has been in Indonesia since 2007 and has produced one male offspring. Andalas will turn 14 next month.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:16:55am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

I must not have married the right Rothschilds then… /

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:07am

re: #230 ObserverArt

I just did a Google image search…yeah, the beards are split in many images. This artist just decided to stylize it more into very distinct points.

Usually, it just reflects the fashion standards of the artist’s time and place.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:17:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:07am

re: #266 lawhawk

I must not have married the right Rothschilds then… /

They must give up their claim on the family fortune when they marry someone who is not a cousin.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:18:35am

Haven’t been online much the last few days. Looks like Biden is going to declare. He’s got my support if he does.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:19:01am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

The Skeptoid article you linked to dealt with this meme.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:20:31am

re: #268 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

T-shirts from the text of your favorite book.

34 dollars for a shirt? And I thought that I paid a lot for shirts at shows. That said, they do have three of my favorite books on there.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:20:32am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

They must give up their claim on the family fortune when they marry someone who is not a cousin.

So it’s like, they’re all inbred? /

PS: nothing against marrying cousins, but when every marriage is a cousin marriage, it can’t be healthy. Just look at the European royal dynasties.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:22:17am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Usually, it just reflects the fashion standards of the artist’s time and place.

When we’re talking about the Orthodox iconography, it has more or less strict rules based on the so-called Sacred Tradition (which is equal to the Sacred Scripture).

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:23:02am

re: #273 Nyet

Like the Hapsburgs. encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:23:15am

re: #273 Nyet

So it’s like, they’re all inbred? /

PS: nothing against marrying cousins, but when every marriage is a cousin marriage, it can’t be healthy. Just look at the European royal dynasties.

Makes one awkward situation too. Hell though Nicholas II and George V look more like brothers than the second cousins they were.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:23:15am

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

HLsMCKSFt3tWYLqOihw7qXk/EblWJP7T5u378PjO6eOaf3YWNNeGGLV6vKcLOLG42h2zpex7os8vOszI8zEZc0MI0HJvWkfolZM7ATA+mKtbTuaBwYxKTuUo5+JRP0+aktUEAXxVCLD0lPzq2eP/HllX41klt+lNZguEUmOI0FxySvGO04uhnEZv0qAlgcI6uGE+eLJoKQ48+e9En97GOo5cPw8d7OaCHe+2tyOVYZ/uvJZSs1Ex8oAiy4NZcyL14r8c7lZfkF+PvjSrCat6IScgct8ufZj6DrGvcUNC+0zrLpOWO0UYWtFDuK7ZcG1ulSIPpsmd8tVLVzTv5wwo+FnQeyAMzjZJfSPTzOptVgE=

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:23:40am

re: #273 Nyet

So it’s like, they’re all inbred? /

PS: nothing against marrying cousins, but when every marriage is a cousin marriage, it can’t be healthy. Just look at the European royal dynasties.

I read a biography a number of years ago. During the 19th century the Rothschilds all cousin-married and there were even some uncle/niece marriages. I don’t know if that is still the case nowadays.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:24:36am

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

Whatever floats their boat, I guess, although I’d call this cultic behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:25:33am

I think I heard somewhere that an overwhelming majority of marriages throughout the centuries have been between second cousins or closer.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:25:56am

Also, the Real Jesus hates bears!

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KerFuFFler  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:26:43am

re: #172 freetoken

Better image:

Image: jesus-drinks-cabin_3416846b.jpg

The face I see looks more like “The Scream” painting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:27:15am

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

I read a biography a number of years ago. During the 19th century the Rothschilds all cousin-married and there were even some uncle/niece marriages. I don’t know if that is still the case nowadays.

Linebreeding. If done with rigorous culling, it can, over time, lead to a relatively defect-free, relatively purebred population. But humans aren’t mice, and when a defect pops up after two generations, you can’t go back and cull every individual in that line.

So, don’t marry your cousins!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:29:29am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

I think I heard somewhere that an overwhelming majority of marriages throughout the centuries have been between second cousins or closer.

Wouldn’t surprise me. It’s one reason to take captives from nearby populations and incorporate them into your gene pool.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:29:41am

re: #282 KerFuFFler

Now it looks to me like a full-body image of a yeti instead of someone’s face.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:31:34am

re: #285 Nyet

Now it looks to me like a full-body image of a yeti instead of someone’s face.

No. He’s clearly wearing a stormtrooper helmet.

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iossarian  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:31:55am

re: #266 lawhawk

I must not have married the right Rothschilds then… /

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU’RE NOT RELATED TO THE RICH ONES???

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:32:14am

re: #286 Varek Raith

Basically it boils down to: Lord Jesus or Lord Vader?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:32:22am

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

Wouldn’t surprise me. It’s one reason to take captives from nearby populations and incorporate them into your gene pool.

I think it’s because for much of recorded history, people really didn’t really leave home that much. Maybe it’s since proven false but the old saying about the average person not going 50 miles from where they were born pre-industiral revolution rings true here. Plus communities were a lot smaller. Even today, the villages where my ancestors from Europe emigrated from have few than 2000 people. It actually makes the tales of our own ancestors all the more extraordinary IMO.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:32:41am

The DOJ allegations that Menendez solicited underage prostitutes are really weak - nothing but circumstantial evidence. This is pretty far from “corroboration.”

m.nydailynews.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:33:03am

re: #287 iossarian

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU’RE NOT RELATED TO THE RICH ONES???

Time for a divorce. Your honor, I married this woman on the pretense that I thought I would be marrying into billions of dollars

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:33:53am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

The DOJ allegations that Menendez solicited underage prostitutes are really weak - nothing but circumstantial evidence. This is pretty far from “corroboration.”

m.nydailynews.com

Allegations are just that. Not a fan of his but soliciting under-aged prostitutes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:35:06am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

The DOJ allegations that Menendez solicited underage prostitutes are really weak - nothing but circumstantial evidence. This is pretty far from “corroboration.”

m.nydailynews.com

Wingnuts will find themselves a bit conflicted: Do they believe the allegations because Bob is a Democrat? Or will they continue to believe that the White House is trying to destroy Menendez because of his opposition to the Iran Nuke agreement?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:35:07am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

OT, but the cut and paste guy just dumped another unsourced page that he pretty much lifted from another website.

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:36:28am

re: #288 Nyet

Basically it boils down to: Lord Jesus or Lord Vader?

Speaking of Lord Vader, there’s a pudgy storm trooper posing with a Darth Vader mannequin outside the Seattle Center. He’s just wearing the storm-trooper helmet, chest plate, and front of the leg plates. Everything out the back is just held in a grey unitard. I felt so bad for the guy that I couldn’t even take his picture to mock him. But the kids like him and they pose for pics and he gets a few bucks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:36:57am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Wingnuts will find themselves a bit conflicted: Do they believe the allegations because Bob is a Democrat? Or will they continue to believe that the White House is trying to destroy Menendez because of his opposition to the Iran Nuke agreement?

He’s also opposed to the new Cuba relations too. But yeah quite a quagmire for the wingnuts.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:38:38am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Haven’t been online much the last few days. Looks like Biden is going to declare. He’s got my support if he does.

I have mixed feelings. Have liked Biden for a long time; campaigned for him and other Dems in Delaware when I was a student there.

I wonder whether he’s really up for it and can run a strong campaign given the lateness of the hour.

And of course he’s not exactly a fresh face (although nor is Hillary).

But this latter quality can be turned to his advantage; i.e. used to contrast himself and the relative steadiness of the past 7 years with the Trump-Cruz-Rand-Carson wackiness.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:38:50am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

I suppose the wingnut sources will claim that the claims were finally corroborated after they were thought debunked.

This is not the sense of the DOJ filing, which is that there was some circumstantial evidence that initially corroborated the allegations which made it necessary to investigate them.

Nothing is said of the end result though: whether the charges were outright debunked or whether there was simply not enough evidence to proceed.

So sort of playing on the ambiguity of “corroborated”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:39:45am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I think it’s because for much of recorded history, people really didn’t really leave home that much. Maybe it’s since proven false but the old saying about the average person not going 50 miles from where they were born pre-industiral revolution rings true here. Plus communities were a lot smaller. Even today, the villages where my ancestors from Europe emigrated from have few than 2000 people. It actually makes the tales of our own ancestors all the more extraordinary IMO.

50 miles? I’d bet that most of humanity, once agriculture was created, didn’t go more than 20. Nomadic people excepted, of course. Hell, where I grew up, everyone stayed within a few miles of their parents.

My family? The closest one is 80 miles from our hometown and the farthest is in the middle of the Pacific!

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:00am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I hope Biden doesn’t run. The less chaos on our side, the better.

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iossarian  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:30am

re: #295 darthstar

All part of the rich tapestry of human existence: panhandling half-hearted amateur cosplayers.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:36am

re: #262 lawhawk

That’s long overdue, and is a small step towards rectifying the problems in the community, which the town leaders saw as a piggy bank since the fees would quickly add up and they’d have no way to avoid jail or further fines. The system there was essentially a black hole of justice. Once you fell into its orbit, there was no escape.

Sadly, Ferguson is hardly alone with this - there are far too many other communities that treat minorities in the same way.

Seems they haven’t stopped issuing new warrants by the gross…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:40:53am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

34 dollars for a shirt? And I thought that I paid a lot for shirts at shows. That said, they do have three of my favorite books on there.

I particularly liked Paradise Lost.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:41:34am

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

I’m aware. But in this country religion has privileges and rights greater than those of normal businesses. And given the hold it can have on people’s minds, that’s for the best. John Oliver’s plan would, if implemented, likely be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. And it would be a 7-2 ruling, at minimum.

Given the hold that religion has on people’s minds, it should be strongly regulated, not encouraged with tax breaks. Religion is the only form of delusion that’s celebrated and encouraged.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:41:41am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I have mixed feelings. Have liked Biden for a long time; campaigned for him and other Dems in Delaware when I was a student there.

I wonder whether he’s really up for it and can run a strong campaign given the lateness of the hour.

And of course he’s not exactly a fresh face (although nor is Hillary).

But this latter quality can be turned to his advantage; i.e. used to contrast himself and the relative steadiness of the past 7 years with the Trump-Cruz-Rand-Carson wackiness.

Yeah he’s a mixed bag I concede but I like him because I think he’s probably a little more progressive than Hillary but I think would get more accomplished than her or Sanders. He’s someone who really I think understands Congress better than any potential candidate running. Think LBJ like but without the assholishness. But you’re right, he can compare himself with the nuts running on the Republican side and look quite good.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:42:08am

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

50 miles? I’d bet that most of humanity, once agriculture was created, didn’t go more than 20. Nomadic people excepted, of course. Hell, where I grew up, everyone stayed within a few miles of their parents.

My family? The closest one is 80 miles from our hometown and the farthest is in the middle of the Pacific!

towns were 6 miles apart because that’s how far an ox-cart could travel in a day.

Stage coach stops were, I think —20 miles apart.

I used to know how far various methods could take one in a day —foot, horse, etc.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:42:43am

So suppose Biden runs and splits the “moderates” between himself and Hillary. A chance of Bernie winning the primaries, which lessens the chance of a Dem winning the election.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:43:02am

re: #303 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I particularly liked Paradise Lost.

Dubliners had a cool one with all the hats as did Gatsby with the flapper girl (I assume that’s Daisy), and I liked the Sun Also Rises with the matador. Still don’t think I’d pony up that kind of money for a shirt but they are nice tees.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:43:20am

re: #288 Nyet

Basically it boils down to: Lord Jesus or Lord Vader?

hmmmmm … .

:)

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:45:44am

re: #307 Nyet

I wouldn’t call Biden running as “chaos”. Personally I’d prefer him to the alternatives. Still, he’s getting older and I fear that running too old of a candidate won’t work anymore. Reagan was the last old guy to win. I’m not sure our culture wants to vote for 70-something year olds anymore.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:46:13am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I have mixed feelings. Have liked Biden for a long time; campaigned for him and other Dems in Delaware when I was a student there.

I wonder whether he’s really up for it and can run a strong campaign given the lateness of the hour.

And of course he’s not exactly a fresh face (although nor is Hillary).

But this latter quality can be turned to his advantage; i.e. used to contrast himself and the relative steadiness of the past 7 years with the Trump-Cruz-Rand-Carson wackiness.

His name also isn’t Bush or Clinton.

Normally, O’Malley’s candidacy would offer a Clinton alternative in the form of a young governor with progressive accomplishments. But on the national stage he seems underwhelming, his campaign message unclear. And he left some baggage in Maryland—the healthcare website bombed and there was a scandal at the Baltimore city jail in which gang members “ran the prison”—the leading gang member impregnated four or five of the female guards, used many others to bring in contraband, etc, there have been a dozen or more arrests of guards and other jail personnel and the investigation is ongoing.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:46:45am

Pony Express -Wiki

To maintain the rigid schedule, 157 relay stations were located from 5 to 25 miles (8 to 40 km) apart as the terrain would allow for. At each swing station, riders would exchange their tired mounts for fresh ones, while “home stations” provided room and board for the riders between runs. This technique allowed the mail to be whisked across the continent in record time. Each rider rode about 75 miles (120 km) per day.[21]

they got $100/month salary —

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:47:21am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Dubliners had a cool one with all the hats as did Gatsby with the flapper girl (I assume that’s Daisy), and I liked the Sun Also Rises with the matador. Still don’t think I’d pony up that kind of money for a shirt but they are nice tees.

It’s kinda difficult to choose only one.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:47:45am

re: #310 freetoken

I wouldn’t call Biden running as “chaos”. Personally I’d prefer him to the alternatives. Still, he’s getting older and I fear that running too old of a candidate won’t work anymore. Reagan was the last old guy to win. I’m not sure our culture wants to vote for 70-something year olds anymore.

Gerontocracy is also a form of ageism.

I don’t feel Biden is up to it, but who knows.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:28am

re: #310 freetoken

I wouldn’t call Biden running as “chaos”. Personally I’d prefer him to the alternatives. Still, he’s getting older and I fear that running too old of a candidate won’t work anymore. Reagan was the last old guy to win. I’m not sure our culture wants to vote for 70-something year olds anymore.

I think the age thing is definitely legitimate. I know it’s not fair but it’s not easy to sell the electorate that your ideology is about the future and positive change when your youngest major candidate was born in 1947. I hate doing that to Hillary, Biden, and Sanders, all of whom I have respect for.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:48:52am

re: #253 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Buddy Christ creeps me out.

“Eeeeehhhhh…waa cha doin’?”

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b_sharp  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:24am

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

50 miles? I’d bet that most of humanity, once agriculture was created, didn’t go more than 20. Nomadic people excepted, of course. Hell, where I grew up, everyone stayed within a few miles of their parents.

My family? The closest one is 80 miles from our hometown and the farthest is in the middle of the Pacific!

If this area is any reflection of past agricultural communities, up until about the ’60s it was common for multiple generations to live in the same farm house and only travel to the nearest town for daily needs. Even now, there are quite a few farm families that have several generations in different houses but on the same farm land.

As machines took over the labour, the need to have strong young help has been reduced and discretionary time has increased.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:49:28am

re: #313 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It’s kinda difficult to choose only one.

Yeah tough choice for me between those three. Dubliners inspired my love of short fiction, Sun Also Rises is why I went to Spain last summer to attend San Fermin, and everyone loves Gatsby. Well not everyone I guess.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:15am

re: #300 Nyet

I hope Biden doesn’t run. The less chaos on our side, the better.

Recent analysis (538?) had him entering only if HRC fades or has a health problem. Sanders is shunted aside in all cases.

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Agnostick  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:27am

Charles C. is a public figure for limited purposes—he is not, legally, a private citizen. You can’t chase the spotlight for months on end, and then throw a temper tantrum when it lands on you, even if it’s not for the reason you intended. I predict the time between the opening gavel and the closing gavel will be less than 15 minutes.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:50:28am

re: #273 Nyet

So it’s like, they’re all inbred? /

PS: nothing against marrying cousins, but when every marriage is a cousin marriage, it can’t be healthy. Just look at the European royal dynasties.

Even in non-royal bloodlines cousin marriage can wreak havoc, like there are hereditary disorders more or less common to Finland, caused by the distances between populations until modern transportation came along.
Personally, I’d prefer 7 degrees of separation precisely to prevent crap building up in the gene pool.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:23am

re: #321 Teukka

Even in non-royal bloodlines cousin marriage can wreak havoc, like there are hereditary disorders more or less common to Finland, caused by the distances between populations until modern transportation came along.
Personally, I’d prefer 7 degrees of separation precisely to prevent crap building up in the gene pool.

Nothing scarrier than an inbred human —IMHO.

This counts for culture as well as genetics.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:27am

bbl

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:51:50am

re: #321 Teukka

Even in non-royal bloodlines cousin marriage can wreak havoc, like there are hereditary disorders more or less common to Finland, caused by the distances between populations until modern transportation came along.
Personally, I’d prefer 7 degrees of separation precisely to prevent crap building up in the gene pool.

Interesting. Well that seven degree rule seems like a good rule for me. Makes me wonder how many generations my parents are apart heh since we’re all related someway.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:52:27am

I’d just as well stay out of the gene pool.
:P

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:52:40am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Why the Democrats in 1988 decided to go with Dukakis over Biden stumps me. The better man lost.

Biden was a good candidate, now he’s near the end of his public career.

Yes, our society is ageist. We have also moved politics into the realm of entertainment, in this case visual entertainment (like television), where the best description is that these are “cosmetic” fields. I.e., looks means everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:53:01am

re: #317 b_sharp

If this area is any reflection of past agricultural communities, up until about the ’60s it was common for multiple generations to live in the same farm house and only travel to the nearest town for daily needs. Even now, there are quite a few farm families that have several generations in different houses but on the same farm land.

As machines took over the labour, the need to have strong young help has been reduced and discretionary time has increased.

When I lived in an agricultural area of Illinois, I knew older people who had never traveled any further than 5-10 miles from their farms. That was only to go to town for shopping or for funerals/weddings at a church other than their home church.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:54:29am

re: #326 freetoken

Why the Democrats in 1988 decided to go with Dukakis over Biden stumps me. The better man lost.

Biden was a good candidate, now he’s near the end of his public career.

Yes, our society is ageist. We have also moved politics into the realm of entertainment, in this case visual entertainment (like television), where the best description is that these are “cosmetic” fields. I.e., looks means everything.

Yeah I don’t get that either. I think he would have given H.W Bush a run for his money. Good point about politics being entertainment too.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:54:43am

re: #304 No Country For Old Haters

Given the hold that religion has on people’s minds, it should be strongly regulated, not encouraged with tax breaks. Religion is the only form of delusion that’s celebrated and encouraged.

Not just celebrated and encouraged but used to make public policy. That’s the worst part. 2000 year old superstition being the deciding factor in current public policy. Regulated indeed.

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bratwurst  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:55:06am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

National review is not white supremacist

They have just, you know, accidentally hired a number of white supremacists.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:55:10am

re: #322 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Nothing scarrier than an inbred human —IMHO.

This counts for culture as well as genetics.

There is a lot of research which suggest that what most commonly is affected by consanguinity is IQ. I.e. if you boink your cousin, chances are high you get various degrees of slow offspring.

Sometimes I find myself pondering that the reluctance/refusal of some regimes to deal with cousin marriage might be motivated by ensuring their own spot as smartest kid on the block.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:55:40am

re: #325 Varek Raith

I’d just as well stay out of the gene pool.
:P

The water is all purple there anyway. /

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:07am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Interesting. Well that seven degree rule seems like a good rule for me. Makes me wonder how many generations my parents are apart heh since we’re all related someway.

Traditionally, it is 4 degrees if I remember correctly. The Catholic Church tried 7 for a bit but got their arms twisted by *drumroll* royalty.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:27am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Interesting. Well that seven degree rule seems like a good rule for me. Makes me wonder how many generations my parents are apart heh since we’re all related someway.

I suppose we could have everyone do a genetics test. Only close cousins will share lots of DNA.

Consanguinity laws regarding marriage do exist. Geneticists insist that distant cousin marriages are not a problem.

Also it is claimed the high proportion of deaf among the Marthas Vineyard communities is due to close relative marriages long ago.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:38am

re: #330 bratwurst

They have just, you know, accidentally hired a number of white supremacists.

It wasn’t until whatshisface died. He kept them out. William Buckley —or he kept the Religious Whackos to a minimum —is probably more accurate.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:49am

re: #332 Nyet

The water is all purple there anyway. /

You know what goes on in there?!
No thanks.
/

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:56:53am

re: #331 Teukka

Um, it’s not up to “regimes” to “deal” with cousin marriage.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:57:10am

re: #330 bratwurst

They have just, you know, accidentally hired a number of white supremacists.

They’re the white supremacist rag for the educated white supremacist. The kind that uses fancy language to say why he believes blacks are inferior to whites rather than wearing a hood and shouting the n-word.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:57:24am

re: #333 Teukka

Traditionally, it is 4 degrees if I remember correctly. The Catholic Church tried 7 for a bit but got their arms twisted by *drumroll* royalty.

For the AKC Pedigree it is 4 generations - …

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:19am

bbl —really

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:22am

re: #333 Teukka

Traditionally, it is 4 degrees if I remember correctly. The Catholic Church tried 7 for a bit but got their arms twisted by *drumroll* royalty.

Right. 4 generations. That’s probably let’s see about 100-120 years between common ancestors.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:35am

re: #337 Nyet

Um, it’s not up to “regimes” to “deal” with cousin marriage.

True. Clergy. But regimes have various means of … incentives at their disposal to help convince the clergy it is beneficial.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:58:48am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

Multisyllabic white supremacists. Though some of NR’s racists are cultural supremacists more so than skin color.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:59:07am

Another unfortunate Twitter-truncated headline:

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:59:28am

re: #342 Teukka

The clergy never had a problem with royal cousin marriages either ;)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 7:59:32am

re: #343 freetoken

Multisyllabic white supremacists. Though some of NR’s racists are cultural supremacists more so than skin color.

Right, they’re the elitists that the right wing base claims to hate. WFB was a huge elitist. Even talked the part.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:00:01am

Sigh @ NR is not racist zombie lie.

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b_sharp  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:00:10am

This puppy of ours is attached to me at the ankle. I can’t get away from him.

I sit on the can with my pants around my ankles and he crawls into them and curls up.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:00:54am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Right, they’re the elitists that the right wing base claims to hate. WFB was a huge elitist. Even talked the part.

I’ll admit I like the way he talked, though certainly not the content.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:01:01am

re: #345 Nyet

The clergy never had a problem with royal cousin marriages either ;)

Actually Catholic clergy had, but then the royalty twisted their arm.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:01:20am

Vote for Donald, HE KNOWS BANKRUPTCY!!!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:01:28am

re: #310 freetoken

I wouldn’t call Biden running as “chaos”. Personally I’d prefer him to the alternatives. Still, he’s getting older and I fear that running too old of a candidate won’t work anymore. Reagan was the last old guy to win. I’m not sure our culture wants to vote for 70-something year olds anymore.

If you forced everyone into a booth and made them vote today, you’d have the first Kardashian president.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:02:14am

re: #347 Varek Raith

Sigh @ NR is not racist zombie lie.

They’re just a different flavor of white supremacist. Not all white supremacists come in the KKK pointy hat variety. NRO comes in the form of the snobby upper class bullshit version.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:02:57am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Funny, this image doesn’t not have the split beard…

…or the blue eyes!

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They’re scientists, so who believes them anyway.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:03:11am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

They’re just a different flavor of white supremacist. Not all white supremacists come in the KKK pointy hat variety. NRO comes in the form of the snobby upper class bullshit version.

Yeah.
Just annoys me D_F can’t or won’t see it.
We seem to have this ‘argument’ every so often.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:04:20am

re: #350 Teukka

Speaking of which - and switching the topic somewhat - I always wondered at the fact that the elites saw religion as more of a national-social function, hence easily switching religions in order to marry the foreign royalty. I mean, back then there was none of this happy-go-lucky “we’re all Christians, just with different rites” attitude, if you’re not of my sect, you’re a hell-bound heretic. And yet…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:04:32am

re: #355 Varek Raith

Yeah.
Just annoys me D_F can’t or won’t see it.
We seem to have this ‘argument’ every so often.

Yeah annoys me too. A non-white supremacist magazine doesn’t hire the people they were hiring. End of story for me.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:04:54am

re: #354 Eventual Carrion

They’re scientists, so who believes them anyway.

That one image is bullshit anyway.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:05:53am

Ah, finally some sun.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:06:37am

re: #356 Nyet

Speaking of which - and switching the topic somewhat - I always wondered at the fact that the elites saw religion as more of a national-social function, hence easily switching religions in order to marry the foreign royalty. I mean, back then there was none of this happy-go-lucky “we’re all Christians, just with different rites” attitude, if you’re not of my sect, you’re a hell-bound heretic. And yet…

Paris Baton Rouge is worth a mass.

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KiTA  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:06:52am

Wait, NOW Gawker has a legal team? Where were they when they decided to post Hogan’s sex tape and ignore a judge’s order to take it down, or when they decided to help a blackmailer out a closeted CFO?

On the other hand, I can’t decide who to root for — Gawker, or Chucky. I guess whoever loses, we win, right?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:07:40am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is the ONLY person capable of fixing this corrupt, bankrupt, divided country!

He running for dictator?

/

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:09:15am

re: #361 KiTA

Depends on who “we” are.

But right now I certainly root for Gawker.

In the Hogan suit it may be different (even if Hogan was revealed as a racist pos).

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:12:47am

re: #356 Nyet

Speaking of which - and switching the topic somewhat - I always wondered at the fact that the elites saw religion as more of a national-social function, hence easily switching religions in order to marry the foreign royalty. I mean, back then there was none of this happy-go-lucky “we’re all Christians, just with different rites” attitude, if you’re not of my sect, you’re a hell-bound heretic. And yet…

True - conversion was always easier for royalty than for the common man. ‘cept at the height of Protestant vs. Catholic wars.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:13:48am

re: #361 KiTA

Wait, NOW Gawker has a legal team? Where were they when they decided to post Hogan’s sex tape and ignore a judge’s order to take it down, or when they decided to help a blackmailer out a closeted CFO?

On the other hand, I can’t decide who to root for — Gawker, or Chucky. I guess whoever loses, we win, right?

Gawker has always had a legal team, but whether the editorial side listens to what the legal department has to say - especially given the way they ran the Hogan story and outed a non-public figure - is questionable.

Since Gawker was sued, the legal department has a much stronger say/dictate strategy. As to the editorial side pushing those other stories, editorial may have well overridden what legal said to do (not run).

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KerFuFFler  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:15:34am

re: #334 freetoken

I suppose we could have everyone do a genetics test. Only close cousins will share lots of DNA.

Consanguinity laws regarding marriage do exist. Geneticists insist that distant cousin marriages are not a problem.

Also it is claimed the high proportion of deaf among the Marthas Vineyard communities is due to close relative marriages long ago.

Another population afflicted with a high number of genetic maladies are the Amish:

Some Amish groups have a very limited gene pool. For example, the vast majority of Amish in Lancaster County, PA, are descendents of about 200 Swiss citizens who emigrated in the mid 1700s. Because they traditionally do not marry outsiders and because few outsiders have joined the order, the “community has been essentially a closed genetic population for more than 12 generations.” Thus, intermarriage has brought to the fore certain genetic mutations that were present in the initial genetic pool (as they are in any population), making the Amish host to several inherited disorders.” 5 These include dwarfism, mental retardation and a large group of metabolic disorders. One in 200 have glutaric aciduria type I; they are born healthy, but can experience permanent neurological damage when a mild illness strikes. From 1988 to 2002, the Clinic for Special Children in Lancaster County, PA, has “encountered 39 heritable disorders among the Amish and 23 among the Mennonites…..For 18 of the disorders seen regularly at the clinic, the incidences are high, approximately 1/250 to 1/500 births”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:19:51am

re: #366 KerFuFFler

Another population afflicted with a high number of genetic maladies are the Amish:

There’s a young Amish couple living a few miles down the road from me.
Last year they buried their fifth child. All five died in infancy. They have no living children.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:20:48am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a young Amish couple living a few miles down the road from me.
Last year they buried their fifth child. All five died in infancy. They have no living children.

Anti-vaxxers?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:21:28am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

Anti-vaxxers?

Genetic problems.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:21:33am

Here’s the article on the “real face of Jesus”, and a closer reading indicates that it has almost nothing to do with science.

First of all, they simply take the NT sources at face value. Like, Paul said something general against long hair, so Jesus must have had short hair (except Paul never saw Jesus and was expressing his own opinion). Or some quote from the gospels that Jesus didn’t look different from his disciples is treated as a gospel truth, except gospels are filled with made-up details, were not written by eyewitnesses and were written decades after the alleged events. The details used by these “scientists” are not factual details, so this why this thing breaks down there and then.

Second, the very idea of a “typical Galilean Semite face” makes no more sense to me than the idea of a “typical French face” or a “typical white person face”, except in very crude sense of skin shade and some very basic bone structure. Such “reconstructions” still don’t tell us anything about any individual.

But even if one dismisses the second criticism and accepts some stereotypical “ethnic face”, this still wouldn’t tell us much specifically about Jesus, because we don’t know how different from this stereotype he would look.

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KerFuFFler  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:21:41am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another unfortunate Twitter-truncated headline: The U.S. Government’s Department of Health Finally Admits That Marijuana Kills…

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Yeah, they should really have left out the word “finally” so they could have added on the next word: “cancer”!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:22:23am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a young Amish couple living a few miles down the road from me.
Last year they buried their fifth child. All five died in infancy. They have no living children.

I can’t imagine that especially in the modern world. Very sad but my first thought was what VB just said about wondering if they’re anti vaxxers.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:22:35am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

Genetic problems.

Very sad in any case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:23:12am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

I can’t imagine that especially in the modern world. Very sad but my first thought was what VB just said about wondering if they’re anti vaxxers.

The Amish here do vaccinate.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:24:22am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Amish here do vaccinate.

That’s good. As I said, it’s very sad in any case.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:26:50am

The trees tell me it is time to pick pears. BBL

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KerFuFFler  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:27:18am

re: #375 HappyWarrior

That’s good. As I said, it’s very sad in any case.

So sad it killed the thread… ;)

Well, almost!

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Bubblehead II  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:29:55am

Morning Lizards. Due to an unfortunate glitch in the company transportation Dept. I get an unexpected 3 day weekend. Glad I have the PTO to cover it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:34:36am
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darthstar  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:36:01am

That’s good enough for me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:37:21am

re: #380 darthstar

That’s good enough for me.

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Well shit, I’m convinced. He wants to make America great again. By all means let him have the phone call to launch the nukes.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:37:57am

re: #300 Nyet

I hope Biden doesn’t run. The less chaos on our side, the better.

That is kind of my thinking too. Him entering at this time might signal there are issues in the Dem ranks and there are major issues with Hillary’s campaign. Knowing the media we have today, they will be on all that like sharks and will turn this into a major thing.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:39:02am

re: #380 darthstar

The GOP electorate.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:40:07am

re: #380 darthstar

That’s good enough for me.

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Trump seems to have found that lightning-in-a-bottle that St. Ron had all those years, able to spin bullshit in such a fashion that people think he’s got anything but bullshit to sell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:40:51am

re: #382 ObserverArt

That is kind of my thinking too. Him entering at this time might signal there are issues in the Dem ranks and there are major issues with Hillary’s campaign. Knowing the media we have today, they will be on all that like sharks and will turn this into a major thing.

On the other hand, there is nothing to talk about on the Democratic side except HIllary’s purported scandals. A bit of a horse race would give the media something else to sensationalize about.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:41:39am

re: #348 b_sharp

This puppy of ours is attached to me at the ankle. I can’t get away from him.

I sit on the can with my pants around my ankles and he crawls into them and curls up.

That’s a damn good puppy!

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darthstar  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:41:57am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Well shit, I’m convinced. He wants to make America great again. By all means let him have the phone call to launch the nukes.

It’s on his hat.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:41:58am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Well shit, I’m convinced. He wants to make America great again. By all means let him have the phone call to launch the nukes.

Better yet, give her the nuclear launch codes.

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

//

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:42:11am

re: #348 b_sharp

I had a cat that did that when he was a kitten.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:42:12am

re: #352 Decatur Deb

If you forced everyone into a booth and made them vote today, you’d have the first Kardashian president.

My. Biggest. Fear…about Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:42:26am

re: #384 Targetpractice

Trump seems to have found that lightning-in-a-bottle that St. Ron had all those years, able to spin bullshit in such a fashion that people think he’s got anything but bullshit to sell.

The GOP base is really gullible with that kind of crap. They ate that shit for breakfast with Ronnie and now they want second helpings with Trump.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:42:54am

re: #348 b_sharp

This puppy of ours is attached to me at the ankle. I can’t get away from him.

I sit on the can with my pants around my ankles and he crawls into them and curls up.

Photo, or never happened.//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:43:02am

re: #388 Nyet

Better yet, give her the nuclear launch codes.

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

//

Heh. Wanna move to the Moon?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:43:31am

re: #387 darthstar

It’s on his hat.

Well just like a man who speaks German can’t be all that bad, a man with that sort of slogan on his hat must be fantastic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:43:39am
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darthstar  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:48:09am

Nearly collided? It did five fly-bys…

Maybe it wasn’t an asteroid at all…

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:51:26am
“My legs are shaking,” Luntz said.

You fucking had a fucking part in fucking creating this fucking monster.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:51:46am

re: #365 lawhawk

Gawker has always had a legal team, but whether the editorial side listens to what the legal department has to say - especially given the way they ran the Hogan story and outed a non-public figure - is questionable.

Since Gawker was sued, the legal department has a much stronger say/dictate strategy. As to the editorial side pushing those other stories, editorial may have well overridden what legal said to do (not run).

I cannot imagine how difficult legal is there when most of what they do is gossip. How do you balance gossip to legal standards?

As far as I am concerned, all these gossip sites could go the way of the dinosaur. They are all evil.

But not as evil as a person like Chuck. That asshole is evil personified.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:53:16am

re: #370 Nyet

Here’s the article on the “real face of Jesus”, and a closer reading indicates that it has almost nothing to do with science.

First of all, they simply take the NT sources at face value. Like, Paul said something general against long hair, so Jesus must have had short hair (except Paul never saw Jesus and was expressing his own opinion). Or some quote from the gospels that Jesus didn’t look different from his disciples is treated as a gospel truth, except gospels are filled with made-up details, were not written by eyewitnesses and were written decades after the alleged events. The details used by these “scientists” are not factual details, so this why this thing breaks down there and then.

Second, the very idea of a “typical Galilean Semite face” makes no more sense to me than the idea of a “typical French face” or a “typical white person face”, except in very crude sense of skin shade and some very basic bone structure. Such “reconstructions” still don’t tell us anything about any individual.

But even if one dismisses the second criticism and accepts some stereotypical “ethnic face”, this still wouldn’t tell us much specifically about Jesus, because we don’t know how different from this stereotype he would look.

You need to add in the “immaculate” part of the genetics. I would imagine someone conceived immaculately would have gotten the extra-special DNA/genes.

: )

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:54:47am

re: #371 KerFuFFler

Yeah, they should really have left out the word “finally” so they could have added on the next word: “cancer”!

No matter how you slice it, that headline is too long.

US Gov Admits Marijuana Effective Against Cancer

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:55:09am

re: #399 ObserverArt

Well, we’re speaking on the assumption of a historical Jewish apocalyptic preacher here, not Son of God. :)

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:56:52am

re: #397 Nyet

You fucking had a fucking part in fucking creating this fucking monster.

Fucking A!

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:57:08am

re: #380 darthstar

That’s good enough for me.

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Why not the Oprah run for POTUS.

“You get a car! And YOU get a car! Everyone gets a car!”

She said it! She means it! She has DONE it! Oprah for President!

I am ashamed for my fellow citizens sometimes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:58:11am

re: #402 Targetpractice

Fucking A!

It does amuse me when guys like Luntz, Rove who created this beast complain about it. I have no sympathy for them at all. I loved seeing Rove lose his shit when Ohio was being counted for Obama a few years ago. I also love it that the TP hates him.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:59:16am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Amish here do vaccinate.

I think they do here in Ohio too.

I noticed the article on Amish genetics was from Lancaster Pennsylvania. It is my understanding that the eastern parts of Ohio are actually populated by more Amish than those in Pennsylvania.

I think I’ve mentioned it before, but if you go to Shreve Ohio there are areas that look like 1800s Ohio. Where I grew up we had a lot of Amish too.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 8:59:52am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

On the other hand, there is nothing to talk about on the Democratic side except HIllary’s purported scandals. A bit of a horse race would give the media something else to sensationalize about.

Then it will turn into Biden’s gaffes. The media must have its horse-race. And they must make Dem’s look bad, because, face it, the GOP makes itself look bad. They need little help in that area. If the media accurately reported the insanity that is the GOP, there is no way there would be a horse-race. There would be the consistent 27-30% of dead-enders for the GOP and that’s it because their insanity is palpable.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:00:22am

re: #388 Nyet

Better yet, give her the nuclear launch codes.

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

//

Give Trump the launch codes and it might not be an option.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:02:03am

re: #404 HappyWarrior

It does amuse me when guys like Luntz, Rove who created this beast complain about it. I have no sympathy for them at all. I loved seeing Rove lose his shit when Ohio was being counted for Obama a few years ago. I also love it that the TP hates him.

They’re like guys who carefully, lovingly craft a hotrod, paying attention to every little thing, spending nights and weekends, and a lot of cash on it, and now their irresponsible alcoholic cousin stole the keys and has taken it out for a road trip.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:02:14am

There are various GOP nihilists/hedonists/”fiscal conservatives” that want to ride the tiger without getting bitten. Many of them are horrified by Trump, but they enabled the mindset that let him rise.

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Bird in the Paw  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:02:24am

re: #399 ObserverArt

You need to add in the “immaculate” part of the genetics. I would imagine someone conceived immaculately would have gotten the extra-special DNA/genes.

: )

Jesus was not the immaculate conception, it was Mary. Hence, the Catholic idolatry of The Blessed Mary.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:03:05am

re: #407 WhatEVs

Give Trump the launch codes and it might not be an option.

That’s what I meant by giving her the codes. Quick ending to a sad story. //

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:04:54am

re: #410 Bird in the Paw

Jesus was not the immaculate conception, it was Mary. Hence, the Catholic idolatry of The Blessed Mary.

Which doesn’t make any sense whatsoever, because there had to be a whole immaculate line for that starting with Adam and Eve.

And if Mary could have been conceived immaculately without her parents being in the immaculate line, then so could have Jesus, which makes the whole concept superfluous.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:06:43am

re: #409 Nyet

There are various GOP nihilists/hedonists/”fiscal conservatives” that want to ride the tiger without getting bitten. Many of them are horrified by Trump, but they enabled the mindset that let him rise.

Absolutely.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:07:02am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re like guys who carefully, lovingly craft a hotrod, paying attention to every little thing, spending nights and weekends, and a lot of cash on it, and now their irresponsible alcoholic cousin stole the keys and has taken it out for a road trip.

What’s really becoming a headache for them is not that their alcoholic cousin has driven off with it, it’s that they know they can’t order him to bring it back because their mutual friends egged him into stealing it and if you end the road trip now, they’re going to hate them for life…as well as convince him to just flip you off and keep on motoring.

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freetoken  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:07:22am

It’s raining.

How very odd.

Checking the radar, I see a large blob of rain on the east side of the mountains in northern Baja. Check radar shows this too, along with a significant monsoonal flow.

Oh well, I hope we get enough to count.

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Bird in the Paw  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:08:01am

re: #412 Nyet

Which doesn’t make any sense whatsoever

We’re talking religion here, where does sense come into the equation?

because there had to be a whole immaculate line for that starting with Adam and Eve.

Which would be, by default, impossible because of the incest thing going on.

And if Mary could be conceived immaculately without her parents being in the immaculate line, then so could Jesus, which makes the whole concept superfluous.

I think I covered that in the first bit about sense and religion.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:08:06am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re like guys who carefully, lovingly craft a hotrod, paying attention to every little thing, spending nights and weekends, and a lot of cash on it, and now their irresponsible alcoholic cousin stole the keys and has taken it out for a road trip.

Haha that works. Really though, these guys built a party that mocked a veteran’s purple heart at their national convention and got their candidate Bush re-elected based on fears about same sex marriage. I don’t want to hear them crying about Trump. I suspect the real reason why they don’t like Turmp is they feel they can’t control them like they could a Walker, Bush, or Rubio.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:08:37am

re: #414 Targetpractice

What’s really becoming a headache for them is not that their alcoholic cousin has driven off with it, it’s that they know they can’t order him to bring it back because their mutual friends egged him into stealing it and if you end the road trip now, they’re going to hate them for life…as well as convince him to just flip you off and keep on motoring.

Yep.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:09:24am

I think Luntz is now starting to realize the monster he helped create.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:10:37am

re: #416 Bird in the Paw

We’re talking religion here, where does sense come into the equation?

Which would be, by default, impossible because of the incest thing going on.

I think I covered that in the first bit about sense and religion.

Except the concept started out as making sense of the story while saving Jesus’ sinlessness from birth. Mary’s immaculate conception just moves the problem back one generation, it doesn’t solve it.

Since it was an attempt at dealing with the problem rationally, it’s only fair to analyze it from that POV.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:11:12am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

Haha that works. Really though, these guys built a party that mocked a veteran’s purple heart at their national convention and got their candidate Bush re-elected based on fears about same sex marriage. I don’t want to hear them crying about Trump. I suspect the real reason why they don’t like Trump is they feel they can’t control them like they could a Walker, Bush, or Rubio.

That is largely why Trump is so infuriating to the GOP leadership, because he’s capable of self-financing his own campaign, leaving them with little leverage on him. Not that that’s saying much, since the post-Citizens United political landscape has seen candidates boosted into the stratosphere on a mountain of dark money from donors who do not have the sort of loyalty to the leadership that they once did when constrained by campaign finance laws. Why give a shit what Rinsed Prius wants when you can buy a meat puppet like Walker for pennies on the dollar and get everything you want out of the next administration directly, rather than dealing with the middle men?

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:11:25am

re: #419 Varek Raith

I think Luntz is now starting to realize the monster he helped create.

And that there is no stuffing that genie back into the bottle which leaves them virtually no wiggle room.

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ObserverArt  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:11:44am

re: #410 Bird in the Paw

Jesus was not the immaculate conception, it was Mary. Hence, the Catholic idolatry of The Blessed Mary.

Oh I know. But the resultant child having been immaculately conceived by the power of God would have given God the chance to do whatever he wanted as far as DNA.

That is all part of the miracle and the fact that God can do anything!

(And remember…12 years of Catholic indoctrination education for me taught me how to think like this!)

: )

Later…got stuff to do!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:12:21am

re: #421 Targetpractice

That is largely why Trump is so infuriating to the GOP leadership, because he’s capable of self-financing his own campaign, leaving them with little leverage on him. Not that that’s saying much, since the post-Citizens United political landscape has seen candidates boosted into the stratosphere on a mountain of dark money from donors who do not have the sort of loyalty to the leadership that they once did when constrained by campaign finance laws. Why give a shit what Rinsed Prius wants when you can buy a meat puppet like Walker for pennies on the dollar and get everything you want out of the next administration directly, rather than dealing with the middle men?

Exactly.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:12:37am

Been swamped all day, so I apologize if this has been discussed….but, has CCJ said anything on Facebook (or somewhere else) about this filing by Gawker?

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:13:26am

re: #421 Targetpractice

That is largely why Trump is so infuriating to the GOP leadership, because he’s capable of self-financing his own campaign, leaving them with little leverage on him. Not that that’s saying much, since the post-Citizens United political landscape has seen candidates boosted into the stratosphere on a mountain of dark money from donors who do not have the sort of loyalty to the leadership that they once did when constrained by campaign finance laws. Why give a shit what Rinsed Prius wants when you can buy a meat puppet like Walker for pennies on the dollar and get everything you want out of the next administration directly, rather than dealing with the middle men?

Citizen’s United is really a dual-edged sword. They wanted it so badly but what it did was fuck them as equally as it did Democrats. The monied players are now driving the GOP - and I think it is hurting them. It is lack of control (which goes to the comment about Walker, Rubio, et al).

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:14:23am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Just checked. Not publicly.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:14:46am

re: #427 Nyet

Just checked. Not publicly.

Gracias

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:16:49am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Been swamped all day, so I apologize if this has been discussed….but, has CCJ said anything on Facebook (or somewhere else) about this filing by Gawker?

He did a friends-only FB post last night.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:19:15am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

He did a friends-only FB post last night.

Reaching nearly 4,000 people instantly! Yoooooogeeee!!!

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:20:48am

Funny thing is, both sides tell the truth.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:21:39am
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Bird in the Paw  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:25:20am

re: #423 ObserverArt

Oh I know. But the resultant child having been immaculately conceived by the power of God would have given God the chance to do whatever he wanted as far as DNA.

True, but the goddidit explanation just gets me all tangled up in knots of stupid.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:27:10am

re: #432 Nyet

Just 10 years ago the GOP and Fox “news” would have paid to kiss Turd Blossom’s ass. Amazing to see how quickly they dismiss their former heroes.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:28:14am

WTF….

Well, you knew that Schilling was off the deep end, but that’s quite the Godwin he’s pulled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:29:20am
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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:30:22am

re: #435 lawhawk

WTF….

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Well, you knew that Schilling was off the deep end, but that’s quite the Godwin he’s pulled.

What a freaking moron.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:31:48am

Well look who loves The Donald

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:33:20am

re: #435 lawhawk

WTF….

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Well, you knew that Schilling was off the deep end, but that’s quite the Godwin he’s pulled.

He was just something something something…

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:33:21am

re: #438 The Vicious Babushka

Shocking. I’m shocked that a white supremacist/nativist/xenophobe would like the nativist/xenophobe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:33:53am

re: #440 lawhawk

Shocking. I’m shocked that a white supremacist/nativist/xenophobe would like the nativist/xenophobe.

inorite!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:38:45am

How could anyone KNOW???

good grief

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:39:18am

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was just something something something…

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I’d wager that’s the percentage of extremists for, well, any group.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:40:15am

re: #443 Varek Raith

I’d wager that’s the percentage of extremists for, well, any group.

III% Eleventy One Percent!

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:41:11am

re: #443 Varek Raith

I’d wager that’s the percentage of extremists for, well, any group.

And and even smaller percentage of those who actually act on their extremism.

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:46:53am
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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:47:05am
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CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:49:23am

re: #445 Varek Raith

And and even smaller percentage of those who actually act on their extremism.

THIS. I just did the math real quick—5-10% of 1.6 billion is 80-160 million. These people just pull numbers out of their asses anyway. They never cite sources as it ends up being some shit like “according to [insert RWNJ source].”

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:50:57am

Frat suspended at ODU in Virginia over misogynistic banners hung on moving day.

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Varek Raith  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:52:29am

re: #448 CuriousLurker

THIS. I just did the math real quick—5-10% of 1.6 billion is 80-160 million. These people just pull numbers out of their asses anyway. They never cite sources as it ends up being some shit like “according to [insert RWNJ source].”

Indeed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:52:45am

re: #449 lawhawk

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Frat suspended at ODU in Virginia over misogynistic banners hung on moving day.

Dana Muhgunz thought it was cute.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:54:23am

Hey, did you guys know Google will do math for you? I just tried it on a whim.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:54:58am

re: #447 WhatEVs

Oh dear, this may backfire and force Trump to run as an independent, which would be bad for the GOP.

Who’s to say that Trump won’t just sign the pledge and then run third-party anyway?

Who’s going to stop him?

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:55:39am

re: #452 CuriousLurker

That is good to know but I still like to use the calculator function on my iPhone.

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:55:46am

OT, but this is awesome:

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:56:22am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Been swamped all day, so I apologize if this has been discussed….but, has CCJ said anything on Facebook (or somewhere else) about this filing by Gawker?

He is probably still cleaning his underwear.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:56:56am

re: #453 makeitstop

Who’s to say that Trump won’t just sign the pledge and then run third-party anyway?

Who’s going to stop him?

I would agree with you but isn’t the state party who submits the names that the states put on the ballots?

As far as trusting Trump, not a chance in hell. He will say anything to anyone.

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It's on his hat!  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:57:37am

re: #452 CuriousLurker

Hey, did you guys know Google will do math for you? I just tried it on a whim.

I use it for conversions frequently.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2015 • 9:59:51am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re like guys who carefully, lovingly craft a hotrod assault rifle, paying attention to every little thing, spending nights and weekends, and a lot of cash on it, and now their irresponsible alcoholic cousin stole the keys gun and ammo and has taken it out for a road trip killing spree.

Had to update to modern times.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:00:05am

re: #455 Lidane

The movie better not bomb now ;)

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:02:03am

What’s wrong with Missouri.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:02:44am

re: #451 The Vicious Babushka

Until it’s her daughter.

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:02:45am

This should go over well:

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CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:02:54am

re: #454 PhillyPretzel

That is good to know but I still like to use the calculator function on my iPhone.

I’m sitting at my computer most of the day, so anything that allows me to type something into my browser’s address bar and get an immediate answer is a win for me

I have Google set as my default search engine in FF, and other stuff configured so I can do keyword searches of various sites from the address bar also. For example the letter “w” followed by a space then a word or phrase searches Wikipedia, “u” searches Urban Dictionary, “gi” searches Google Images, etc. Saves me lots of time.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:03:10am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

How could anyone KNOW???

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good grief

When was Hitler elected? Didn’t he lose the 2 elections he entered in?

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:03:23am

re: #461 jaunte

I have no idea. Could it be cousins marrying cousins? /half

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CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:03:44am

re: #458 Deez Nuts for President

I use it for conversions frequently.

Same here, I had no idea it does math though. Don’t know why I didn’t think to try it sooner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:04:03am

re: #457 WhatEVs

I would agree with you but isn’t the state party who submits the names that the states put on the ballots?

As far as trusting Trump, not a chance in hell. He will say anything to anyone.

In Kentucky, normally, a candidate pays the filing fee to have their name on the ballot.
Except this time around if Rand Paul actually gets his caucus, in which case there will be no presidential candidates on the primary ballot.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:04:24am

re: #458 Deez Nuts for President

What would we do without it?

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Franklin  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:05:58am

re: #455 Lidane

OT, but this is awesome:

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There was this too, quite awesome:

‘Ghostbusters’ Cast Visits Children’s Hospital In Costume! (Photos)

“That was wonderful of them to take the time to put a smile on my son’s face! He’s been through soooo much in his battle against Stage-4 Hodgkin’s Lymphoma Cancer!” she wrote. “This was good for his morale and very appreciated!”

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:06:06am

re: #469 Nyet

It answers everything - and the answer to everything is always the same. 42.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:06:07am

re: #469 Nyet

What would we do without it?

LOL

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:07:41am

re: #463 Lidane

This should go over well:

Fox News’ Roger Ailes Calls on Trump to Apologize to Megyn Kelly

Apologize? Shit, he’s not done gloating yet!

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Kilroy01  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:07:51am

re: #463 Lidane


Wonder if Ailes wants a mint..
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CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:08:13am

Okay, back to the salt mines… *sigh*

BBL

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:08:25am

re: #461 jaunte

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What’s wrong with Missouri.

Too much to list. I suppose you could start with the Sundown Towns that never really went away…they only morphed a little.

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It's on his hat!  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:08:47am

re: #469 Nyet

What would we do without it?

“miserable failure” used to return something interesting, but no longer does. “recursion” and “do a barrel roll” are still amusing, though (with the latter perhaps only working in Chrome).

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:08:52am

I didn’t know that millifortnight is a thing.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:09:57am

re: #463 Lidane

Who’s got the popcorn gif? Ailes v Trump. This will be epic. Yooge even!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:10:15am

re: #463 Lidane

This should go over well:

Insert Jonah Jameison laugh here

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:11:07am

re: #468 Backwoods_Sleuth

In Kentucky, normally, a candidate pays the filing fee to have their name on the ballot.
Except this time around if Rand Paul actually gets his caucus, in which case there will be no presidential candidates on the primary ballot.

Really?? This caucus thing will remove Jeb!, Trump, et al from the primary ballots? Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:12:21am

re: #481 WhatEVs

Really?? This caucus thing will remove Jeb!, Trump, et al from the primary ballots? Wow.

Correct.
If the caucus happens on March 5, then there will be no presidential candidates on Kentucky’s primary ballot in May.

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:13:23am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

Correct.
If the caucus happens on March 5, then there will be no presidential candidates on Kentucky’s primary ballot in May.

Holy shit. And the state went along with that. I am…speechless. Truly. (And that does not happen often.)

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:14:59am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

Correct.
If the caucus happens on March 5, then there will be no presidential candidates on Kentucky’s primary ballot in May.

So, what dirt does Aqua Buddha have on the party leadership that made them go along with this shit?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:15:02am

re: #483 WhatEVs

Holy shit. And the state went along with that. I am…speechless. Truly. (And that does not happen often.)

The state didn’t go along with it, it was 111 members of the Republican Party of Kentucky’s central committee who voted “yes” last Saturday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:15:51am

re: #484 Targetpractice

So, what dirt does Aqua Buddha have on the party leadership that made them go along with this shit?

He’s paying the RPK.
They also made him a voting member of the committee on Saturday, right before the vote was taken.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:16:31am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s paying the RPK.
They also made him a voting member of the committee on Saturday, right before the vote was taken.

And wingnuts have the balls to complain about Illinois politics?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:17:54am

I did a short page about the Rand Paul caucus nonsense:
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:18:58am

But they’ll still keep beating that poor dead horse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:22:38am

re: #465 Eventual Carrion

When was Hitler elected? Didn’t he lose the 2 elections he entered in?

HIs party won a plurality in the last election.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:23:56am

re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But they’ll still keep beating that poor dead horse.

BUT A JUDGE SAID SHE DID!!!

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Jenner7  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:26:43am

Add to the file “I really don’t want to be President”:

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:27:59am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:30:29am

Betsy Rothstein has a serious case of butthurt over Gawker’s response to Chuck’s bogus suit.

Gawker Tries to F**K Charles Johnson With His Own Press | the Daily Caller

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Lidane  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:31:15am

ROFL:

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:32:19am

re: #494 Charles Johnson

Such language. Very journalisty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:32:39am

BTW, admission is free at all national parks today.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:32:54am

This fucking dumbass==>

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:33:40am

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BTW, admission is free at all national parks today.

FEDERAL GIVEAWAY TO THE POOR

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Tigger2  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:35:09am

re: #498 The Vicious Babushka

This fucking dumbass==>

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But he’ll get on his knees for the Koch Brothers.

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Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:35:29am

re: #498 The Vicious Babushka

This fucking dumbass==>

[Embedded content]

But he won’t stand up to Donald Trump.

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Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:36:11am

re: #494 Charles Johnson

She simply made up the DOJ report quote.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:37:27am

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

Friendly neighborhood PSA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:38:03am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:39:36am

re: #502 Nyet

She simply made up the DOJ report quote.

She completely did make that up. It’s not what the report says at all.

With the DOJ’s latest report on Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), which states that “corroborating evidence supports” that Menendez really was involved with underage hookers, Gawker may have a hard time proving one of their largest contentions — which is that Johnson’s livelihood is publishing stories that are wrong and that personally attack people.

But then, Rothstein is a creepy unscrupulous liar, like everyone who writes for the Daily Caller.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:39:43am

re: #498 The Vicious Babushka

507
PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:41:57am

re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got it here too. newsworks.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:42:36am

re: #505 Charles Johnson

She completely did make that up. It’s not what the report says at all.

But then, Rothstein is a creepy unscrupulous liar, like everyone who writes for the Daily Caller.

and “corroborating allegations”, as said in the DoJ report, doesn’t mean the same thing as DoJ found the allegations to be true, as UpChuck and his fans were gloating about saying the DoJ report vindicated him.

509
Lidane  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:42:53am

Better yet, don’t. Circular firing squads are awesome:

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:43:55am
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Franklin  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:44:54am

re: #510 Kragar

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GET OUT OF MY HEAD DAMMIT!!!!

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:45:24am

re: #509 Lidane

Better yet, don’t. Circular firing squads are awesome:

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I’m starting to think Kelly is going to lose her job over this.

I really don’t like her at all, but she’s the most likely to go. Hannity isn’t going anywhere, Ailes will just show his ass again, and Trump will dance on her empty anchor desk.

That’s the only way I see this playing out.

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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:47:01am

re: #509 Lidane

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:47:21am
515
KerFuFFler  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:47:56am

re: #512 makeitstop

I’m starting to think Kelly is going to lose her job over this.

I really don’t like her at all, but she’s the most likely to go. Hannity isn’t going anywhere, Ailes will just show his ass again, and Trump will dance on her empty anchor desk.

That’s the only way I see this playing out.

I wonder if she’d see the light about the “War on Women” then.

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Franklin  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:48:57am

re: #511 Franklin

GET OUT OF MY HEAD DAMMIT!!!!

Kragar:

That is to say, great minds think alike.

Also, Happy (belated?) Birthday!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:49:40am

re: #512 makeitstop

I’m starting to think Kelly is going to lose her job over this.

I really don’t like her at all, but she’s the most likely to go. Hannity isn’t going anywhere, Ailes will just show his ass again, and Trump will dance on her empty anchor desk.

That’s the only way I see this playing out.

Can’t imagine what she would be fired for, but then again…Fox News…Donald Trump…Wingnuts…

518
#CampaignZero  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:49:44am

re: #514 Kragar

Hope you had a great bday dinner!

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:49:54am

re: #513 lawhawk

Please, please Oh tremendous Mr. Trump, sir!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:50:50am

re: #519 jaunte

Please, please Oh tremendous Mr. Trump, sir!

“My friend….”

Yeah, Trump and Hannity hang out, watch movies, order pizza.

521
Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:50:54am

re: #518 #FergusonFireside

Hope you had a great bday dinner!

Baked Chicken with golden mushroom gravy with mashed potatoes and then chocolate cake with cream cheese icing.

522
Franklin  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:52:53am

Hold on, do I have the right TCOT Drinking Game™ instruction pamphlet? I have to drink when a right-wing-looney is criticized for AlinskyTactics™ too?

523
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:53:14am

so gracious and such a role model for civility…

524
jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:53:53am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d like him to talk more about winning the Hispanic vote.

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It's on his hat!  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:54:18am

re: #522 Franklin

[Embedded content]

Hold on, do I have the right TCOT Drinking GameTM instruction pamphlet? I have to drink when a right-wing-looney is criticized for AlinskyTacticsTM too?

You finish the drink, and then the rest of the bottle.

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Franklin  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:54:42am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

so gracious and such a role model for civility…

[Embedded content]

Christ Almighty. Not to say Graham has a shot in hell. But this is like someone yelling “Scoreboard!” with one out in the top of the first inning.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:55:12am

re: #517 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Can’t imagine what she would be fired for, but then again…Fox News…Donald Trump…Wingnuts…

It would probably be a ‘mutual decision’ - as in Ailes would pay her a truckload of cash to go away, in return for her making no public comment about the whole thing.

Ailes has had plenty of practice paying hush money.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:55:22am

re: #521 Kragar

Baked Chicken with golden mushroom gravy with mashed potatoes and then chocolate cake with cream cheese icing.

Yum. Starving.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:55:36am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

The epitome of perfect.///

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:55:54am

re: #514 Kragar

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Too much derp in that focus group to read all of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:56:16am
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:56:46am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

so gracious and such a role model for civility…

[Embedded content]

To which The Donald added, “Nana nana boo boo, stick your head in doo doo!”.

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:58:34am
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lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 10:59:38am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got to visit Yosemite and Hetch Hetchy a few years ago, and it really is a mirror to Yosemite valley. Amazing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:00:02am

Dueling statements:

Ailes:

Trump:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:01:47am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dueling statements:

Ailes:

Trump:

Also, too, didn’t this happen like two or three weeks ago? Amazing the two sides are still dueling. But please, carry-on dear wingnuts.

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Franklin  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:02:12am

re: #533 Kragar

This could very well be the finest sentence ever, uh, sentenced.

But unfortunately, some of those pictures are of lesbians lesbianing it up with each other lesbionically.

538
aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:03:14am

Another sign that Governor Goodhair’s campaign will end soon, His Iowa Chair has quit.

thehill.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:03:27am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

so gracious and such a role model for civility…

So much Presidential.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:04:31am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Inside all the back and forth is the core question of whether it was legitimate for a reporter to question Trump on his history of misogynistic statements. Which of course it was. All of his bluster, or questions about a Fox personality’s skills won’t change that.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:05:07am

re: #536 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Also, too, didn’t this happen like two or three weeks ago? Amazing the two sides are still dueling. But please, carry-on dear wingnuts.

I’m pretty sure Trump won that round when Kelly went on ‘unexpected vacation.’

This thing with Hannity and Ailes asking Trump to apologize is new. And I don’t expect any different of an outcome.

Maybe Ailes will hire a platoon of PIs to get the dirt on Trump and destroy him. A man can dream.

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b.d.  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:05:09am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dueling statements:

Ailes:

[Embedded content]

Dear Roger & Donald;

Please leave some oxygen for the rest of us.

Thank you;

Signed;
All other living things on the Planet

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:05:16am

re: #522 Franklin

@seanhannity He uses Alinsky tactics to control people.
— Mary Stewart

How do we know Ms. Mary Stewart isn’t using Alinsky Tactics to control Sean Hannity?

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William of Orange  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:06:11am

I’m not enjoying reading this. Can you get a clearer picture of the lawsuits? I’m totally cross-eyed after the first sentence. ..

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:07:06am
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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:09:03am
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jaunte  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:09:28am
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Ace-o-aces  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:09:53am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

so gracious and such a role model for civility…

[Embedded content]

It occurs to me Trump is using the same basic script for his Presidential campaign that he did during his brief stint as a Pro Wrestling manager.

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:11:39am

re: #537 Franklin

This could very well be the finest sentence ever, uh, sentenced.

Unfortunately?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:11:47am

re: #546 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Of course. A bigoted jackass with bad hair likes another bigoted jackass with bad hair. And this hopefully allows us to talk about Steve “I’m David Duke without the baggage and presently the third highest ranked Republican in the House” Scalise again.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:14:23am

re: #545 Ace-o-aces

It seems Dr. Frankenstein has lost control of his monster.

Pretty sure Trump just woke up that day he announced and said, “what the hell, think I’ll just say I’m running for president today. Hey, can we round up some ‘supporters’ to attend this thing?”

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Kragar  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:16:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:16:24am

More on the shots fired at the courthouse in Pennsylvania

554
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:18:12am

also:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:18:30am

re: #552 Kragar

STL courts will forgive thousands of warrants. Ferguson protesters have just provided #JailSupport to the whole city!

Quite a little racket they had going on out there before they brought attention on themselves. Makes me wonder what other kinds of dirtball government is going on around the country.

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danarchy  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:19:35am

re: #512 makeitstop

I’m starting to think Kelly is going to lose her job over this.

I really don’t like her at all, but she’s the most likely to go. Hannity isn’t going anywhere, Ailes will just show his ass again, and Trump will dance on her empty anchor desk.

That’s the only way I see this playing out.

She has been challenging O’reilly as the ratings leader and regularly beats him in “the demo”. The only way she loses her job is if her ratings plummet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:19:45am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dueling statements:

Ailes:

[Embedded content]

Shorter Donald: My standing in the polls proves Megyn Kelly is a bimbo.

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:20:54am

Here is another policy proposal to fight poverty from a Conservative wonk that has absolutely no chance of being voted into law by a Conservative Congress.

vox.com

The GOP’s only plan to fight poverty is the same as its been for decades: cut taxes on the 1%, bust unions, and cut regulations to protect the environment, workers and consumers.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:21:09am

re: #557 Blind Frog Belly White

Do you mean that he took of his elevator shoes? //

560
aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:21:44am

re: #556 danarchy

She has been challenging O’reilly as the ratings leader and regularly beats him in “the demo”. The only way she loses her job is if her ratings plummet.

And the fight with Trump should actually boost her ratings.

561
HappyWarrior  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:21:49am

re: #558 aagcobb

Here is another policy proposal to fight poverty from a Conservative wonk that has absolutely no chance if being voted into law by a Conservative Congress.

vox.com

The GOP’s only plan to fight poverty is the same as its been for decades: cut taxes on the 1%, bust unions, and cut regulations to protect the environment, workers and consumers.

Basically their plan is the same as their plan has always been.

562
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:22:58am

re: #553 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alleged attacker at Chester courthouse dead; same man who jumped white house fence

Sounds like this guy wanted a suicide by cop.

563
lawhawk  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:23:52am

Trump v. Ailes. Steel cage match with nukes. Everybody fights, everyone takes sides.

Scorched earth tactics.

MP4 Video

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:23:59am

re: #562 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Please pardon the pun. He was dying for attention.

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gwangung  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:24:23am

re: #558 aagcobb

Here is another policy proposal to fight poverty from a Conservative wonk that has absolutely no chance of being voted into law by a Conservative Congress.

vox.com

The GOP’s only plan to fight poverty is the same as its been for decades: cut taxes on the 1%, bust unions, and cut regulations to protect the environment, workers and consumers.

The US has a consumer economy. When the consumer spends, the economy perks up.

Income inequality means the rich has more, everyone else has less.

Ergo, income inequality, BY DEFINITION, means you’re hurting the economy.

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makeitstop  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:25:00am

re: #557 Blind Frog Belly White

Shorter Donald: My standing in the polls proves Megyn Kelly is a bimbo.

And he seems to think it should shield him from any criticism whatsoever.

That’s not how this works, Donny. That’s not how any of this works.

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gwangung  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:25:15am

re: #555 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Quite a little racket they had going on out there before they brought attention on themselves. Makes me wonder what other kinds of dirtball government is going on around the country.

It’s widespread and targeted at the poor and the powerless; on top of that, it’s applied unequally toward blacks.

568
Nyet  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:25:39am

*eating a huge bowl of ice cream*
*feeling guilty*

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aagcobb  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:27:03am

re: #566 makeitstop

And he seems to think it should shield him from any criticism whatsoever.

That’s not how this works, Donny. That’s not how any of this works.

And yet its working for him. I am loving this show; can’t wait to see how it develops.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:30:19am

re: #558 aagcobb

Here is another policy proposal to fight poverty from a Conservative wonk that has absolutely no chance if being voted into law by a Conservative Congress.

vox.com

The GOP’s only plan to fight poverty is the same as its been for decades: cut taxes on the 1%, bust unions, and cut regulations to protect the environment, workers and consumers.

The GOP has this notion that HURR HURR TEH POORS DON’T WANTS 2 WORK THERE SITTING FAT & LAZY ON TEH WELFARES TAKE AWAY THERE WELFARES & LOOK HOW FAST THEY WILL GET TEH JERBS

They offer no remedy for poor people who WANT TO WORK but CAN’T FIND JOBS or want full-time work or a job that pays enough for them to survive. The GOP response to this is HURR HURR WORK HARDER!!!! GET A BETTER JERB!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:31:21am

re: #568 Nyet

*eating a huge bowl of ice cream*
*feeling guilty*

You should never feel guilty about enjoying delicious ice cream.

Here have some pie.

572
Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:33:17am

re: #558 aagcobb

Here is another policy proposal to fight poverty from a Conservative wonk that has absolutely no chance of being voted into law by a Conservative Congress.

vox.com

The GOP’s only plan to fight poverty is the same as its been for decades: cut taxes on the 1%, bust unions, and cut regulations to protect the environment, workers and consumers.

The plan is supposedly an “alternative” to a higher minimum wage, namely just have the government pay the difference between the higher minimum wage and the present one. Call me crazy, but don’t wingnuts usually freak the fuck out when the government creates new spending to help poor folks?

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WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:38:20am

re: #540 jaunte

Inside all the back and forth is the core question of whether it was legitimate for a reporter to question Trump on his history of misogynistic statements. Which of course it was. All of his bluster, or questions about a Fox personality’s skills won’t change that.

The thing that kills me (or makes me laugh more) is that Kelly didn’t just hit Trump on his weak points…she (and Wallace) hit all the candidates. Yet Trump is the only one who is all WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

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William of Orange  Aug 25, 2015 • 11:54:04am

Damn fucking annoying that I can’t read passed page 3 on both documents. Why is that and what’s the solution?

Edit:
Off course…
Scribe wants me to download their app to continue reading the document.

Fuck ‘em.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 25, 2015 • 12:45:21pm

re: #432 Nyet

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 3:58:35pm

Still reading the documents (couldn’t get Scribd to work right on my phone). I heart legal writing! The memo is wonderful and full of juicy case citations. Chucksie calling it “bullshit” is just another measure of what a sad, stupid, stupid little man he is.

In this action, California is clearly the presumptive choice of law and the facts here present no conceivable basis to depart from that strong presumption. The principal locus of Plaintiffs’ alleged reputational and emotional injuries is California, where Johnson resides and attended college, and the sole locus of Got News’s alleged “lost business and lost investments” is California since that is the only state in which it operates.

As an initial matter, it is notable that the California anti-SLAPP statute was designed to ensure protection from individuals just like Plaintiffs: those who regularly threaten or bring defamation litigation in an effort to punish and silence their critics, rather than recover fair compensation for anything the law actually recognizes as a genuine injury.

Friday - DAAAAMN !

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 25, 2015 • 4:09:34pm

Oh, even better. After several pages of citations and legal explanations, the Conclusion is like a shiny little bow:

CONCLUSION

This case is exactly the type of lawsuit for which the California Anti-SLAPP Act was enacted. Accordingly, Plaintiff’s Complaint should be dismissed with prejudice.

It’s so beautiful… *sniff* HAHAHAHAHAHAAH


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