Iowahawk: Time To Deal With the Mutineers Aboard the S.S. Conservatism

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At Iowahawk, it’s the return of cherished conservative columnist/yachtsman T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII: I Daresay It Is Time We Deal With the Mutineers Aboard the S.S. Conservatism.

Much has been written about the fate of the conservative movement in the months since last I corresponded with you. I won’t belabor the barrels of ink expended in the printing of its obituary, nor will I bore you with further reading of its entrails. Suffice it to say the grand old ship is in the doldrums, adrift in the electoral currents, with nary a harbor on the horizon. But it is time we leave such map room mopery aside and navigate a bold new course for the conservative armada. One needn’t have a 400-year old heirloom scrimshaw sextant for this task; but, fortunately, I do.

It’s quite a handsome instrument, I might add, skillfully hewn from North Atlantic whalebone by some long forgotten crewman on De Gouden Hoer, the sleek Dutch galleon that once transported great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great-grandfather Marinus Van Voorhees to the New World, safe beyond the reach of the angry Amsterdam mobs who mistakenly blamed him for some unpleasant business there involving tulip futures. According to family legend grandpapa Marinus won it in a high stakes high seas game of Kaiserspiel, trumping that unlucky crewman’s queen-high flush with his trusty pearl handled rapier. Although it doomed the crewman to a tragic fate as shark chum in the Gulf Stream, his beautifully crafted sextant has since proven a treasured family keepsake — passed down from generation to generation of Van Voorheeses as we migrated westward with the great American expansion; from Newport to Greenwich to Manhattan, and finally back east again to the summer compound in Montauk.

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501 comments
1 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:02:36am

Hey Honcos!

2 rawmuse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:03:30am

This column is great, one for the ages. Hoist that one, Buckley!

3 zombie  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:05am

Iowahawk. Yay!

OT:

Sometime very recently Rush Limbaugh listed the news sources and blogs he reads every day, and included LGF among the bunch. It was linked to here in the comments section several times, but I can’t find it. Anybody have the link?

4 J.D.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:04:30am
…As I explained all this to President Obama, I assured him that there are still many conservatives like us who patriotically wish him every success, no matter what policies he has in mind. After extinguishing his Marlboro he paused for a few moments, nodded, and assured me that he would dispatch his staff and allies in the press to deal with the Limbaugh problem, thereby clearing the Council of Nassau to forge a new, improved, more fashionable Republican party.

In that instant my faith in Mr. Obama’s innate conservatism was reborn, for his offer of bipartisan kindness was a manifest sign that he only has our best interests at heart. Yes, I know there remain some conservatives of the better sort who have been shaken by the recent distressing market turns as our gallant young admiral struggles to find his sea legs and a coherent bank nationalization strategy. I confess to such quiet misgivings myself, which I brought up in our conversation. In response the President assured me that he would keep my portfolio in mind in the next round of corporate bailouts. Let us conservatives take comfort in that assurance, and in the fact that no matter what new taxes he proposes, Mr. Obama has at least assembled a cabinet with no personal enthusiasm for paying them. We must maintain our faith that the President’s inner conservative will eventually emerge, and remain firm in the conviction that He works in mysterious ways. …

Hell, yeah! I want on the bandwagon!

5 J.D.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:05:13am

oops

Struck out when I meant to bold.

6 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:07:34am

The epitome of country club conservatives.

7 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:26am

Can I get a harrumph?

8 jcm  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:08:36am

Laughing that hard hurts with a chest cold…… now I have to recover from a coughing spasm caused by lowahawk….

9 blastforth  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:25am

What’s the “T” stand for?

10 rawmuse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:53am

re: #3 zombie

I am sure either he or his staff does read LGF, as I have heard him mention as much more than once.

Ooops, did I just out myself? Yes, I listen to Rush. Like that song “Nobody Does It Better”

11 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:09:57am
12 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:07am

Can we use the ships cannons to fire at the MSM?

13 rawmuse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:10:40am

re: #9 blastforth

Thurston, natch.

14 jaunte  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:04am

“…hackneyed hayseed Hayekian Hee Haw..”

Heh.

15 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:09am

re: #12 screaming_eagle
Of course. Just make sure the guns are loaded with grape shot!

16 Opinionated  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:11:54am

Want to save Conservatism?

Start by rejecting the idea that Conservatism is primarily about Guns, Gays and Abortion and other such issues.

17 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:14:01am

re: #16 Opinionated

Want to save Conservatism?

Start by rejecting the idea that Conservatism is primarily about Guns, Gays and Abortion and other such issues.

FTFY

18 itellu3times  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:31am
Alas, as a leader in the thinking wing of the GOP it has proven impossible to completely avoid the predations of Mr. Limbaugh and his slack jawed minions. Each day he rounds up a fresh wave of uncultured baboons to the Republican cause, like some anti-intellectual Pied Piper, making it harder and harder to reposition the party as an upscale boutique brand.

No doubt, no doubt. But hey, what about us, LGF, the blogsphere, does T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII not know of the interweb?

19 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:37am
20 unclassifiable  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:15:59am

It is better to leave the conservative movement to the slack-jaw cretins because at least we recognize there is work to be done and will do it.

21 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:17:03am
22 jcm  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:17:05am

re: #18 itellu3times

No doubt, no doubt. But hey, what about us, LGF, the blogsphere, does T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII not know of the interweb?

Tis’ but a passing fad lad.
/T. C. V. V. VII

23 varmint  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:34am

weren’t the buckleys texas oil wildcatters a few generations ago? the blood line has really slid.

24 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:18:53am
He was followed by Vice President Joe Biden, who put on a fine display of his famed wit and penchant for unpredictable cerebral infarctions

So that’s what they’re called.

bbl-busy day

25 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:02am
26 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:19:38am

re: #15 pingjockey

Of course. Just make sure the guns are loaded with grape shot!

damn, you’re loadin’ for bear, ain’t you?

I wrote a paper in college about naval combat in the days of said. Great paper - except I misspelled grapeshot. I wrote grapeshit.

Talk about using biological weapons!

27 Spar Kling  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:20:02am

What do you think? Is this is a political version of the Stockholm syndrome: en.wikipedia.org Or worse yet, what happened to the loyalties of Pavlov’s dogs after a fllod in St Petersburg?

-sk

28 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:22:22am
29 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:23:10am

Wow IH, that was awesome. Required reading for any New Honco manual.

(standing, clapping)

30 SteveC  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:23:49am
integration of gays into Nascar

Jeff Gordon’s gay
He must be gay
He’s probably whistling Elton John or Spandau Ballet
He’s got the Rainbow Warriors singing Y.M.C.A.
Jeff Gordon’s gay
He must be gay

31 zombie  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:04am

Hey, this latest screed from Iowahawk is actually quite deep!

Just read the whole thing, and it’s actually a very insightful analysis of conservatism’s inherent problems — but cleverly disguised as a humor essay.

32 arf  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:25:48am

The type described in the story…….Newport, Monatuk, and all that……thing is, nowadays, they’re liberal.

Liberals are against money that’s EARNED. Money that’s inherited is OK.

33 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:31am

re: #27 Spar Kling

No. I think it’s because leftists are quietly (or not so quietly) sympathetic to the ideas of tyrannical regimes.

Basically, they all believe in a Master/Slave setup. There should be a permanent ‘ruling’ class, and everyone else is subject to their dictates. They are absurdly foolish to believe they’ll end up being in the ruling class once the revolution is over.

Just ask millions of Chinese ‘intellectuals’.

34 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:38am

later honcos!

35 vapig  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:26:40am

Hey! Mark Levin has this article linked to his home page under notes of interest! But what I went there for was to share his, “Conservatism is a lifestyle,” monlogue. It IS GREAT!

36 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:27:28am

Excellent towercam view but it may not last.

37 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:28:43am

re: #21 MandyManners

Probably. I read here the past few days that porn viewing is high in red states.

It’s obviously because paper porn is less readily available in redder states.

38 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:29:05am

re: #36 Ojoe

Excellent towercam view but it may not last.

Lots of little cat feet at work.

39 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:29:50am
40 arf  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:29:50am

Who is Iowahawk in real life, or has he revealed himself? Always wondered.

41 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:30:36am
42 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:00am
43 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:08am

re: #41 MandyManners

The ocean.

44 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:16am
45 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:28am

re: #41 MandyMannersThat’s fog dear.

46 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:29am

re: #42 MandyManners

Avanti’s not that eloquent. Iowahawk uses a lot of big words.

47 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:35am

re: #41 MandyManners

What’s on fire?

New Pope.

48 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:45am
49 lostlakehiker  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:47am

Saving conservatism won’t be all that easy. We’re badly fractured. You’ve got your scientific realists (lizards!), your guns, god and steel conservatives (a wide category, ranging from distinguished veterans to fringy), your creationists, who can’t abide scientific realism, your nirthers, who can’t abide any sort of realism, and your Rinos, who can’t abide any sort of conservatism other than conservatism in manners and attire.

Who is next up as standard bearer? Jindal should have been the man. He could have been. He sold his chance at the brass ring for a mess of Louisiana anti-science votes. Romney did a bang-up job rescuing the Salt Lake City Olympics, but he’s anathema to voters that won’t count Mormons as Christian and won’t accept a candidate who isn’t heart-on-sleeve Christian. He’s also rich both by birth and by personal accomplishment, which offends some, and he doesn’t seem to connect with Joe Sixpack. Sorry, Mitt, and good luck, but the stars don’t seem to be aligning. Palin is smarter than she’s given credit for, and far from ignorant, but until she has demonstrated more in the way of Thatcher-like qualities, she won’t be able to make it to the front of the ticket. Newt is getting old, and he’s had a knack for saying things that stir the pot, not necessarily to his or his party’s advantage. Huckabee? Nah. Fred? Nah. Lame, lame, lame.

The Republicans have a good core philosophy and a deep “bench”. Somewhere on that bench is the next star. If the Republicans can’t win it on charm or competence, perhaps they can win it on incompetence. The Democrats are well on their way to turning tens of millions of Democrats away from the donks. Things can only get so bad, in ways that trace back directly to the oval office and Congress, before voters wonder why they would want more of the same.

50 jcm  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:53am

re: #35 vapig

Hey! Mark Levin has this article linked to his home page under notes of interest! But what I went there for was to share his, “Conservatism is a lifestyle,” monlogue. It IS GREAT!

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

READ THE WHOLE THING

51 Ojoe  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:31:56am

re: #47 VegasRick

LOL

52 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:03am

re: #44 MandyManners
Oh, that’s a bit of a leap.

53 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:16am
54 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:32am

Later lizards!

55 kansas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:37am

He was followed by Vice President Joe Biden, who put on a fine display of his famed wit and penchant for unpredictable cerebral infarctionsflatulations. There.

56 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:46am

re: #48 MandyManners

Gonna’ need a bigger boat hose.

Classic.

57 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:32:50am
58 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:12am
59 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:16am

re: #44 MandyManners

Shit.

Avanti!

Where?

60 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:36am
61 rawmuse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:36am

Why is it that Republicans have to be monochromatic when the Dems get to be all the colors of the rainbow? They don’t indulge in these purges.

62 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:33:49am

re: #44 MandyManners

Shit.

Avanti!

Same difference!

63 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:01am

re: #57 MandyManners

Maybe the former has a phone booth nearby.

I doubt he could get out of one unaided.

64 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:34:13am
65 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:02am

re: #61 rawmuse

True, but various parts of the Democrat party are all for purging.

66 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:20am

re: #64 MandyManners

Under da bridge?

I am in the mood. Bring on the trolls/mobys/asshats.

67 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:23am
68 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:50am

re: #61 rawmuse

Why is it that Republicans have to be monochromatic when the Dems get to be all the colors of the rainbow? They don’t indulge in these purges.

Don’t forget ye olde sanguinary patina. There’s hope yet.

69 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:35:50am
70 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:36:24am
71 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:36:57am

re: #65 ConservatismNow!

True, but various parts of the Democrat party are all for purging.

I’m all for purging the democrat party.

72 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:37:37am
73 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:38:55am

re: #72 MandyManners

I’m glad someone is. The daffodils are blooming, the trees are budding, the birds are singing and the sun is shining. I’m all happy.

*twirrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllllllll*

Glad you are having some good weather.

74 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:40:05am

re: #72 MandyManners

I’m glad someone is. The daffodils are blooming, the trees are budding, the birds are singing and the sun is shining. I’m all happy.

*twirrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllllllll*

S’Wonderful!

75 vapig  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:41:52am

re: #61 rawmuse

Why is it that Republicans have to be monochromatic when the Dems get to be all the colors of the rainbow? They don’t indulge in these purges.

Well, we went for the “big Tent” rational and ended up - here!

76 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:42:00am

re: #72 MandyManners

Whoa. That was scary

77 HDrepub  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:42:59am

re: #72 MandyManners

I’m glad someone is. The daffodils are blooming, the trees are budding, the birds are singing and the sun is shining. I’m all happy.

*twirrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllllllll*


I wonder why I’m still sitting here when I should be on the Hawg. I’ve got to cure this LGF addiction somehow.

78 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:20am

Lumperproles?

79 vapig  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:43:37am

re: #67 MandyManners

Good question. Maybe it’s because the MFM loves to paint our crazies as representative of the whole GOP whereas they pat the DNC’s crazies on the head and tell them they’re pwecious.

Actually, I think they like to point out our crazies so it gives them an opportunity to call us hypocrits. They never let an opportunity go by when they can attack us instead.

80 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:44:08am
to learn Accidental Transgression or similar hippie era hooey from Yogi Rama Booboo, or somesuch fakir who now fades from memory

heeheehee

81 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:44:20am

I’ve just finished my last SAT prep class, and I don’t have rehearsal this afternoon (the final performance is tonight). There is a NAP in my immediate future!

82 vapig  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:45:50am

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

I’ve just finished my last SAT prep class, and I don’t have rehearsal this afternoon (the final performance is tonight). There is a NAP in my immediate future!

Oh! Sounds lovely! I’m trying to spring clean and keep ending up here. DID go out shopping this morning tho. I’m all done with the errands and the frills. Time to reorganize!

83 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:46:37am

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

I’ve just finished my last SAT prep class, and I don’t have rehearsal this afternoon (the final performance is tonight). There is a NAP in my immediate future!

I got up early enough that I could take a nap before work!

Not on purpose….

84 HDrepub  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:46:47am

re: #80 wrenchwench

to learn Accidental Transgression or similar hippie era hooey from Yogi Rama Booboo, or somesuch fakir who now fades from memory

heeheehee

All while listening to sitar music by Raving Chancre Ravi Shankar.

85 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:48:12am

re: #77 HDrepub

I wonder why I’m still sitting here when I should be on the Hawg. I’ve got to cure this LGF addiction somehow.

There is no cure …

:-)

86 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:48:38am

re: #77 HDrepub

I wonder why I’m still sitting here when I should be on the Hawg. I’ve got to cure this LGF addiction somehow.

Not curable.

87 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:05am

OT - How ‘animal spirits’ move the market

“In fact, confidence is an example of an “animal spirit,” a term referring to the psychological factors that move the market. British economist John Maynard Keynes coined the term.”

cnn.com

Let’s talk about anything other than how Obama is trashing the whole system.

88 Aviator  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:07am

re: #70 MandyManners

Aren’t there instructions?

Yeah, but I think those say “Deposit Coins”. Eventually he would be out of money and still stuck in the booth.

89 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:49:38am

re: #78 BignJames

lum⋅pen⋅pro⋅le⋅tar⋅i⋅at   /ˈlʌmpənˌproʊlɪˈtɛəriət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [luhm-puhn-proh-li-tair-ee-uht] Show IPA
–noun (sometimes initial capital letter) (esp. in Marxist theory) the lowest level of the proletariat comprising unskilled workers, vagrants, and criminals and characterized by a lack of class identification and solidarity.


————————————————————————————————————————

Origin:
1920–25; < G (Marx, 1850), equiv. to Lumpen rag or Lumpen-, comb. form of Lump ragamuffin + Proletariat proletariat

90 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:21am

re: #75 vapig

Well, we went for the “big Tent” rational and ended up - here!

All tent, no pole.

91 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:50:30am
92 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:51:10am

re: #87 Walter L. Newton

OT - How ‘animal spirits’ move the market

“In fact, confidence is an example of an “animal spirit,” a term referring to the psychological factors that move the market. British economist John Maynard Keynes coined the term.”

[Link: www.cnn.com…]

Let’s talk about anything other than how Obama is trashing the whole system.


Yep - its got nothing to do with PB0 and his politics!

/////

93 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:51:35am

Alec Baldwin that paragon of mental health and physical fitness calls Rush every name in the book but doesn’t mention any principles with which he disagrees.

Every person has the right to pursue happiness and wealth - is a basic - and I can’t figure out what’s wrong with that.

94 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:52:16am

Monsieur Iowahawk forgot to mention that 10% of the DOW Components are now trading at less than one mocha-latte ($5) per share:

* Citigroup (C) - 1.03
* Bank of America (BAC) - 3.14
* General Motors (GM) - 1.45

For the three pack, it’s only about $5.62, or the same price as a cheap throw-rug at Wal*Mart.

Which stock will be de-listed first?

After they are all de-listed, which other companies will replace them?

Will they be firms of Fat (Mouth) Albert & the Climate Gang?

95 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:52:46am

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama on Saturday challenged his country to see its hard times as a chance to “discover great opportunity in the midst of great crisis.”

apnews.myway.com

I see the opportunity to…

1) Finally show the country what the far left wants to do to freedom.
2) That our president couldn’t even take a shit without a teleprompter

Short list.

96 Haverwilde  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:52:53am

I saw this thread and immediately thought of Hayek.

Much wisdom in that man and his writings.

97 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:26am

I’m happy too, but ofr other reasons than Mandy:
Wales win Rugby Sevens World Cup in Dubai
‘Wales created history as they won the Rugby Sevens World Cup with a 19-12 victory over Argentina in Dubai.
The 80-1 outsiders had knocked out Sevens heavyweights New Zealand and Samoa to reach their first ever final on a day of major shocks in Dubai.
Wales, who lost to Argentina in the pool stages, opened a 12-7 half-time lead with tries from Richie Pugh and Tal Selley before Pumas drew level.
But Aled Thomas stole down the blindside to seal the Melrose Cup for Wales with the decisive try.’

Yeeeee-hah!

98 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:33am

Drudge says obama has come out saying that he doens’t want peopl;e stuffing money in their mattresses. During an obama administration - I’ll stuff to my heart’s content.

99 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:53:47am

we need a ronald reagan. if the fringe doesn’t like it, let them go off and mope.
it’s our best chance. look how it turned out w/ conservativie -lite mccain.
it is very disheartening to see the gop give up our basic values in an attempt to
“reach” out to those who don’t really understand what it means to be a conservative.
we can’t lose focus and go all ‘wobbly’.
i was shocked during the campaign to see so many republican candidates not showing leadership. remember how they started using O’s mantra of “change”.
that was pathetic to see them all looking at him and thinking he knew something
they needed to get in on.
i cringed when rudy did that. “change” my ass.
see what change has got us now.
we need to proceed as if the dems don’t even exist.

100 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:55:03am

Well, this is pretty funny too. Mayor Bloomberg thinks raising taxes on the rich is a bad idea. Given that Bloomy hasn’t found a tax he didn’t think couldn’t be raised more, he’s suddenly realized that taxing those who contribute the most tax revenues is counterproductive is downright hysterical.

Not bad for a billionaire.

101 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:55:26am

re: #96 Haverwilde

I saw this thread and immediately thought of Hayek.

Much wisdom in that man and his writings.

He calls conservatives cowards and says we are unprincipled.

102 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:55:30am

re: #94 blackpajamas

…huh. Now could be a good time to get into the stock market. Anyone see any bargains?

103 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:55:50am

re: #97 yma o hyd

I’m happy too, but ofr other reasons than Mandy:
Wales win Rugby Sevens World Cup in Dubai
‘Wales created history as they won the Rugby Sevens World Cup with a 19-12 victory over Argentina in Dubai.
The 80-1 outsiders had knocked out Sevens heavyweights New Zealand and Samoa to reach their first ever final on a day of major shocks in Dubai.
Wales, who lost to Argentina in the pool stages, opened a 12-7 half-time lead with tries from Richie Pugh and Tal Selley before Pumas drew level.
But Aled Thomas stole down the blindside to seal the Melrose Cup for Wales with the decisive try.’

Yeeeee-hah!

And S.Africa lost. I am not a happy camper. Well done Wales.

104 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:56:28am

re: #93 DistantThunder

Alec Baldwin that paragon of mental health and physical fitness calls Rush every name in the book but doesn’t mention any principles with which he disagrees.

Every person has the right to pursue happiness and wealth - is a basic - and I can’t figure out what’s wrong with that.

It’s simple, ya see. Left-wing moon-bats don’t need examples (since they routinely have trouble explaining the pros/cons of both sides) to prove why conservatives are bad/wrong/mean/sexist/blah, blah, blah. Conservatives are “bad” only because we’re conservatives. Republicans, by definition, are just wrong. That’s all you need to know.

105 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:56:54am

re: #99 nyc redneck

we need a ronald reagan. if the fringe doesn’t like it, let them go off and mope.
it’s our best chance. look how it turned out w/ conservativie -lite mccain.
it is very disheartening to see the gop give up our basic values in an attempt to
“reach” out to those who don’t really understand what it means to be a conservative.
we can’t lose focus and go all ‘wobbly’.
i was shocked during the campaign to see so many republican candidates not showing leadership. remember how they started using O’s mantra of “change”.
that was pathetic to see them all looking at him and thinking he knew something
they needed to get in on.
i cringed when rudy did that. “change” my ass.
see what change has got us now.
we need to proceed as if the dems don’t even exist.

We don’t need another Reagan. We need lots of people at the ground level working towards improving the situation locally. Hoping for a Messiah - a chosen one - to lead the GOP and/or conservatives out of the wilderness is going to be a fool’s errand. Lay the groundwork to successfully winning at the local level will build towards wins at the state and national level.

106 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:33am
107 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:57:47am

re: #105 lawhawk

We have local elections? When did this happen?

/sarc

108 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:08am

re: #103 Erik The Red

And S.Africa lost. I am not a happy camper. Well done Wales.

Sorry about your loss!
If it helps - the English thought they had it in the bag and just blew it …

We didn’t expect to get that far, never mind win it outright - lots of heavy hangovers in the valleys and towns tomorrow, thats for sure!

109 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:11am

re: #102 ConservatismNow!

…huh. Now could be a good time to get into the stock market. Anyone see any bargains?

“assisted suicide” facilities….

110 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:58:26am
111 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:59:02am

re: #102 ConservatismNow!

…huh. Now could be a good time to get into the stock market. Anyone see any bargains?

“Automakers, at the heart of the manufacturing slump, continued to slash jobs and trim costs to stay in business. General Motors last month said it would cut 47,000 more positions globally while Chrysler LLC announced 3,000 more layoffs. “

bloomberg.com

112 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:00:07am

re: #105 lawhawk

We don’t need another Reagan. We need lots of people at the ground level working towards improving the situation locally. Hoping for a Messiah - a chosen one - to lead the GOP and/or conservatives out of the wilderness is going to be a fool’s errand. Lay the groundwork to successfully winning at the local level will build towards wins at the state and national level.

Exactly!
Hoping for another ‘Messiah’, this time of the GOP brand, will just make people sit on their hands and do nothing while waiting.
Success needs to be earned by hard work, not by dreaming and hoping.

113 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:00:28am
114 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:00:56am

re: #105 lawhawk

We don’t need another Reagan. We need lots of people at the ground level working towards improving the situation locally. Hoping for a Messiah - a chosen one - to lead the GOP and/or conservatives out of the wilderness is going to be a fool’s errand. Lay the groundwork to successfully winning at the local level will build towards wins at the state and national level.

Save me, Seymour…

115 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:01:44am

re: #98 DistantThunder

Drudge says obama has come out saying that he doens’t want peopl;e stuffing money in their mattresses. During an obama administration - I’ll stuff to my heart’s content.

Oh jeez, the Taupe-Shirts will be doing mattress inspections along with the census inquisition.

116 Spar Kling  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:01:59am

re: #33 esch

No. I think it’s because leftists are quietly (or not so quietly) sympathetic to the ideas of tyrannical regimes.


Basically, they all believe in a Master/Slave setup. There should be
a permanent ‘ruling’ class, and everyone else is subject to their
dictates. They are absurdly foolish to believe they’ll end up being in
the ruling class once the revolution is over.


Just ask millions of Chinese ‘intellectuals’.


I should have been clearer. I meant the political reconciliation that some “conservatives” are talking about regarding Obama. They hope that Obama’s hidden conservatism will emerge. Hah! This guy and his cronies clearly want to destroy the U.S. system and reset it to achieve some vacuous, political dream (with them in permanent control).

Speaking of which, has anyone considered that Hillary’s now-famous button was purposely mistranslated by some wag in the State department?

Overcharge indeed!

-sk

117 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:02:40am

re: #97 yma o hyd

I’m happy too, but ofr other reasons than Mandy:
Wales win Rugby Sevens World Cup in Dubai
‘Wales created history as they won the Rugby Sevens World Cup with a 19-12 victory over Argentina in Dubai.
The 80-1 outsiders had knocked out Sevens heavyweights New Zealand and Samoa to reach their first ever final on a day of major shocks in Dubai.
Wales, who lost to Argentina in the pool stages, opened a 12-7 half-time lead with tries from Richie Pugh and Tal Selley before Pumas drew level.
But Aled Thomas stole down the blindside to seal the Melrose Cup for Wales with the decisive try.’

Yeeeee-hah!

Yeeeee-hah! indeed!

Now, tell me this - what does “yeee-hah” sound like when spoken with a British accent rather than a US redneck accent?

118 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:39am

re: #116 Spar Kling

I asked for the trolls/moby’s/asshats and here you are.

119 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:03:55am

re: #113 MandyManners

I was about to start ranting about Clovis and Piden until I read your (pardon the pun) No. 2. LOL!

I was only making a little fun, but, I wonder. He does depend on that thing more than a hooker depends on fish net stockings.

I wonder if who ever programs his messages into that thing, if that person was to insert the word…

Fart!

… into a speech, if Obama would actually cut one before he realized what he had done.

“”That is what we can do and must do today. (FART) And I am absolutely confident that is what we will do,” Obama said in his weekly radio and video address, taped a day earlier at the White House.”

120 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:04:03am

re: #110 MandyManners

I wish I hadn’t deleted the link to Baldwin verbally abusing his daughter.

It’s still widely available.

“I’m gonna fly out there for a day and I’m gonna straighten your ass out!”

Tough guy.

121 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:04:06am

re: #117 reine.de.tout

“Cheerio”

122 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:04:40am

re: #117 reine.de.tout

Yeeeee-hah! indeed!

Now, tell me this - what does “yeee-hah” sound like when spoken with a British accent rather than a US redneck accent?

yeee-a (they drop the “h” sound)

123 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:06am

Russia’s response to the Hillary “reset” button? Russia will be making the rules.

GENEVA (Reuters) – Russia called on Saturday for a successor agreement with the United States to replace the START-1 strategic nuclear arms reduction pact, saying this was a priority in ‘resetting’ their relations as Washington has urged.

Lavrov, speaking at the disarmament conference, quoted President Dmitry Medvedev as saying a new agreement should limit not only nuclear warheads “but also strategic delivery vehicles, i.e. intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles and heavy bombers.”

The Bush administration, which tried unsuccessfully to reach a compromise deal with the Russians on a START-1 successor, said curbs should be on nuclear warheads only.

Outlaw ballistic missiles and only outlaws will have missiles. But Hillary would rather be loved.

124 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:14am

re: #116 Spar Kling

Not a ID thread Spar. What brings you out of the basement?

125 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:14am

re: #105 lawhawk

We don’t need another Reagan. We need lots of people at the ground level working towards improving the situation locally. Hoping for a Messiah - a chosen one - to lead the GOP and/or conservatives out of the wilderness is going to be a fool’s errand. Lay the groundwork to successfully winning at the local level will build towards wins at the state and national level.

Grassroots is one of the keys…but, we do need a leader with charisma though. That is ALL Obama had and he won….Reagan had loads of it as well.

What the right really needs is a set of goals, policies and strategies and a plan to implement them. It should be like along the lines of the “Contract with America”. Simple, yet strong. Easy to rattle off to anyone not sure of who or what to vote for. I submit that the ideas on the right are far superior than anything the left has to offer us. So, it’s just a matter of getting what we want to do and how we want to do to the masses….having a strong leader with a clear message is the way back.

126 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:27am

re: #115 debutaunt

Oh jeez, the Taupe-Shirts will be doing mattress inspections along with the census inquisition.

The Obamassars wear green shirts, and the badge of the carbon knee-capping Gore-stappo.

127 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:05:49am

Hey y’all - takin’ a break from doing the chores! How is everyone doing?
And I gotta say that Iowahawk hasn’t lost an inch off his fastball - this was terrific, humorous and spot on in Iowahawk speak!

128 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:06:19am

Hmmmm…

It finally went back to a cool day here. Thirty-two degrees. I’m eating a bowl of homemade vegetable soup (tomato based) with just a dash of cayanne pepper, delish…

129 Haverwilde  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:06:20am

re: #101 DistantThunder

He calls conservatives cowards and says we are unprincipled.

Yup, but if you read the details his discussion of his views is very close to what most of us ‘conservatives’ believe.

130 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:30am

re: #16 Opinionated

Want to save Conservatism?

Start by rejecting the idea that Conservatism is primarily about Guns, Gays and Abortion and other such issues.

I agree -we don’t need to go over board, but gun rights are actually a winning issue for conservatives.

the first thing the Nazis did? - they took away everyone’s gun.

131 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:33am

re: #116 Spar Kling

I should have been clearer. I meant the political reconciliation that some “conservatives” are talking about regarding Obama. They hope that Obama’s hidden conservatism will emerge. Hah! This guy and his cronies clearly want to destroy the U.S. system and reset it to achieve some vacuous, political dream (with them in permanent control).

Speaking of which, has anyone considered that Hillary’s now-famous button was purposely mistranslated by some wag in the State department?

Overcharge indeed!

-sk


Which brings all the fashionable talk of revolution into a different light as just part of the plan- goad them until they spill a little blood in the streets and then use that as the excuse to finally gain total control.

132 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:07:39am

re: #123 ciaospirit

Russia’s response to the Hillary “reset” button? Russia will be making the rules.

Outlaw ballistic missiles and only outlaws will have missiles. But Hillary would rather be loved.

Since the Russians seem to dislike our missile shield, we should tell Vlad that we are doubling up on it…..Caving in to that pile of steaming excrement is the last thing we should do. Of course, that is exactly what Team Obama WILL do. Getting lectured by a megalomaniac dictator is pretty pathetic.

133 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:06am
134 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:36am

re: #117 reine.de.tout

Yeeeee-hah! indeed!

Now, tell me this - what does “yeee-hah” sound like when spoken with a British accent rather than a US redneck accent?

Aww - I dunno …
Don’t think its used much here, tbh.
I only use it on the interweb because its so expressive even when written!

135 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:51am

re: #126 blackpajamas

The Obamassars wear green shirts, and the badge of the carbon knee-capping Gore-stappo.

I like that: “the Gore-stappo”….good one

136 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:08:58am

OT - but my suitcase from Cancun via Atlanta to Cleveland yesterday was invaded by TSA there and they took about 4 packs of cigs and a lighter. Also a book is missing. Apparently, we can’t pack lighters now in check-in baggage but can have them in carry-on. No mention in the inserts they stuffed in my bag about cigs or books.

137 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:09:05am

re: #119 Walter L. Newton

lol Like in Anchorman!

“Go fuck yourself, San Diego.”

138 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:09:19am
139 Scion9  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:09:36am

re: #61 rawmuse

Why is it that Republicans have to be monochromatic when the Dems get to be all the colors of the rainbow? They don’t indulge in these purges.

The ideology that the Democrat party has tapped into is basically a religion (and is literally a continuation of a certain brand of Christian theosophy). The ‘rainbow’ of the Democrats is the difference between various branches of mainline Protestantism for them. In short, they already have already been purged of their unbelievers. They aren’t all colors of the rainbow; they are just all wearing multicolored masks that cover their monochromatic quasi-Marxist agenda. Blue Dogs are about as ‘conservative’ as Dennis Kucinich. Pro-Isreal and antisemite can be arm in arm, as long as both are pro-gulag. If Democrat politician that has made it into the upper echelon of the Party, they still had to go through the Democrat litmus test: ‘Do you accept V.I. Lenin/Mao/etc as your (and everyone else’s) Lord and Savior?’

You can count on a Democrat to behave a certain way in regards to both domestic and foreign policy with regular consistency in a way that you never could with a Republican. They are the natural heirs to the throne, and Washington of the past century was built by their ilk (regardless of which party was actually in power; Democrats today, would have been Republicans pre-Wilsonian America; but it is one ideological movement).

Republicans are no where near as consistent in their ideology as Democrats; and being a ‘Republican’ doesn’t really mean all that much in making judgments on what way a particular Republican might act in either domestic or foreign policy.

The reason for that is, because again, being a Democrat is like being the member of a Church. Individual idiosyncrasies are allowed, but overtly questioning the core doctrine is not only a faux pas, but heresy. Republicans are essentially ‘not-democrats’; or secular heretics. From the perspective of just about any religion in the world, the faithful are always much more consistent with each other than the plethora of various heretics available to choose from; and so it is today rather those heretics be Evangelical Protestants, or secular Eastern capitalists.

Of course a great many Republicans desire a political movement with that same kind of consistency; rather that include adopting ‘liberal’ American orthodoxy niche issues like environmentalism, identity politics, etc; or becoming a full blown Evangelical Christian political party (which is just a form of identity politics in itself). I really think it is a fool’s errand either way.

140 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:09:45am

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

Hmmmm…

It finally went back to a cool day here. Thirty-two degrees. I’m eating a bowl of homemade vegetable soup (tomato based) with just a dash of cayanne pepper, delish…

It’s also nice to add some leftover pasta to it - yum!

141 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:25am

Hey Charles! I’d like to suggest that, in the categories for the spin-off links, perhaps you could add one for the economy - I know you have one for business and one for political, but these days it seems that a category for economy might be appropriate.
I just put in a link to a Rasmussen poll where 65% of likely voters agreed with the Chairman of Fidelity Investments that he hopes the government “cure” doesn’t make the patient (the US Economy) more ill.
I put it in politics, although it might have also gone into business, but it would clearly have fit an “economy” category even better.
Just suggesting!

142 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:10:53am

According to Obozo, in a recession we lose our ability to raise our families:

“Obama said today that he’s “committed to doing all that’s necessary to address this crisis,” citing the already-passed stimulus package and measures to slow the tide of home foreclosures and to unlock credit.”

“These aren’t just statistics, but hardships experienced personally by millions of Americans who no longer know how they’ll pay their bills, or make their mortgage, or raise their families,” Obama said in his weekly address. “[1]

143 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:11:31am

re: #136 rightymouse

OT - but my suitcase from Cancun via Atlanta to Cleveland yesterday was invaded by TSA there and they took about 4 packs of cigs and a lighter. Also a book is missing. Apparently, we can’t pack lighters now in check-in baggage but can have them in carry-on. No mention in the inserts they stuffed in my bag about cigs or books.

They pinched a book out of your baggage?
What was it - seditious literature, dissing PB0?

144 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:19am

re: #143 yma o hyd

They pinched a book out of your baggage?
What was it - seditious literature, dissing PB0?


“Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

145 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:36am

re: #142 blackpajamas

HAH! Good find. Is it a gaffe or foreshadowing?

146 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:12:55am

re: #140 debutaunt

It’s also nice to add some leftover pasta to it - yum!

Yes, but not in my case. I try to stay away from the carbs. Although there is a little bit of cubed potato in here from one of the packages of frozen veggies I threw in here.

I go with frozen ones cause I can afford them. Fresh is really high in Colorado.

147 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:13:24am

re: #143 yma o hyd

They pinched a book out of your baggage?
What was it - seditious literature, dissing PB0?


Do you pronounce that as PeeBo?

148 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:13:26am

Crisis is an opportunity.
Great risks bring great rewards.

The Democrats are moving forward with their agenda without regard to the facts on the ground, the markets, or the consequences. The GOP can and must respond not only by showing that the Democrats are wrong, but by providing alternatives.

Cowboy Diplomacy vs. Sophisticate Tactlessness. Getting a case of chronic Slack-Jaw.

Obama’s foreign policy is a disaster and it gets worse with each passing day due to completely unforced errors of judgment and cluelessness. Giving thoughtless gifts, complete with translation errors isn’t going to convince people that you know what you’re doing. It’s going to set up people to attempt to take advantage of you and/or ignore you and/or brace for further failures and mistakes that affect them.

We’re going to see all of the above.

149 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:13:39am

re: #132 Desert Dog

Since the Russians seem to dislike our missile shield, we should tell Vlad that we are doubling up on it…..Caving in to that pile of steaming excrement is the last thing we should do. Of course, that is exactly what Team Obama WILL do. Getting lectured by a megalomaniac dictator is pretty pathetic.

don’t newly minted megalo’s look up to and admire the bigger dict’s?

150 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:17am

re: #142 blackpajamas

According to Obozo, in a recession we lose our ability to raise our families:

“Obama said today that he’s “committed to doing all that’s necessary to address this crisis,” citing the already-passed stimulus package and measures to slow the tide of home foreclosures and to unlock credit.”

“These aren’t just statistics, but hardships experienced personally by millions of Americans who no longer know how they’ll pay their bills, or make their mortgage, or raise their families,” Obama said in his weekly address. “[1]

Weekly address, daily speeches, does he never STFU?

If he goes on like that he’ll turn more and more people off because people will get tired of seeing him and his teleprompter.

151 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:19am
152 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:14:44am
153 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:03am

I was hoping Spar wanted to play. Guess not.

Good Night Lizards. See you on the LNDT tomorrow.

154 Spar Kling  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:12am

re: #105 lawhawk

We
don’t need another Reagan. We need lots of people at the ground level
working towards improving the situation locally. Hoping for a Messiah -
a chosen one - to lead the GOP and/or conservatives out of the
wilderness is going to be a fool’s errand. Lay the groundwork to
successfully winning at the local level will build towards wins at the
state and national level.

You’re absolutely right! Unfortunately, organizing conservatives is like trying to herd cats.

On a more general note, while it’s nice to have a determined, principled, intelligent, and eloquent leader, if the majority of the people themselves are uneducated, self-centered, lazy brats, they will only get the government they deserve—an enormous bureaucracy stuffed with capricious bullies.

Unfortunately, for many years now, many of our educators have been pumping out moonbat clones, who have enormous self esteem without any actual education outside of socialist ideals.

Truly a pity.

-sk

155 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:28am

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Yes, but not in my case. I try to stay away from the carbs. Although there is a little bit of cubed potato in here from one of the packages of frozen veggies I threw in here.

I go with frozen ones cause I can afford them. Fresh is really high in Colorado.

Wow, that third sentence was structured like poop.

156 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:32am

re: #144 rightymouse

“Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Aha!
That baggage checker wasn’t of a certain religious persuasion, was he?

I hope you make a stink about this. I think its outrageous.

157 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:15:54am

re: #152 MandyManners

Doubt it. Those TSA neanderthals probably saw the cover and though it was a terrorist book.

158 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:01am
159 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:07am

re: #151 MandyManners

WTF? What was the book?

See my #144 post.

My gal pal and I searched our room in Cancun thoroughly before we left so I know the book was in my suitcase when we left. Go figure.

160 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:18am

re: #145 ConservatismNow!

HAH! Good find. Is it a gaffe or foreshadowing?

It could be both.

Presumably, he means that only the government is capable of raising our families. It takes a village. An unemployed village, but a village nonetheless. Or, he’ll outsource American family raising to China. Happy happy thoughts!

161 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:18am
162 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:30am

re: #147 BignJames

Do you pronounce that as PeeBo?

Could do - never thought of that :-)

Has a good ring to it, doesn’t it?

163 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:47am

re: #153 Erik The Red

I was hoping Spar wanted to play. Guess not.

Good Night Lizards. See you on the LNDT tomorrow.

And on the next episode of LOST… (LOL). Night.

164 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:16:58am

re: #152 MandyManners

Oh, my stars. Censorship?


I don’t know. And 4 packs of cigs? What’s that all about?

165 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:14am
166 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:32am
167 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:17:42am
168 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:18:08am
169 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:18am

re: #132 Desert Dog
Here: #125 Desert Dog

Desert Dog! “Getting lectured by a megalomaniac dictator is pretty pathetic.”
Well, yes it is pathetic, but after all a majority of the voters elected him, so what did you expect?!
And as for your “Grassroots is one of the keys…but, we do need a leader with charisma though. That is ALL Obama had and he won….Reagan had loads of it as well.” I’m afraid I have to disagree. Reagan had loads of charisma and was extremely well spoken with or without a teleprompter, but he had also been the govenor of California for eight years and knew something about, you know, governing.
And Obama did have more than charisma going for him: he had BOATLOADS of money and the MSM in his hip pocket. IIRC, Reagan won his first term IN SPITE of the MSM and the second term with the MSM actively trying to ensure that he wouldn’t win.
Money and the Mass Media - each more important than grassroots support.

170 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:26am

re: #158 MandyManners

Hard to do for a community organizer.

The one aspect of his daily/weekly talks, which he seems to have overlooked, is that he cannot stop now.
If he does people will wonder what is wrong - and once they start wondering, who knows where that may lead …

He’s made a rod for his own back.
Excellent!

171 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:19:39am

re: #142 blackpajamas

According to Obozo, in a recession we lose our ability to raise our families:

“Obama said today that he’s “committed to doing all that’s necessary to address this crisis,” citing the already-passed stimulus package and measures to slow the tide of home foreclosures and to unlock credit.”

“These aren’t just statistics, but hardships experienced personally by millions of Americans who no longer know how they’ll pay their bills, or make their mortgage, or raise their families,” Obama said in his weekly address. “[1]

Let’s also ignore the fact that the Obama home assistance program is designed to reinforce the fact that those who are in no position to afford their bills will be bailed out if their mortgages are with Freddie or Fannie and they’ve got mortgage payments that exceed 31% of their net income.

Let’s just ignore that these people had no business buying homes in the first place that put them in this position. Let’s ignore the distortion of the markets that this causes.

Hardships are going to be compounded by Obama’s economic policies and the failure of the Fed and Treasury to get their house in order. Geithner is a walking gaffe machine, and he instills no confidence in the markets. They don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel, which is why the markets continue their free fall.

Obama does little to instill confidence in the markets as well, and having his staffers saying that this is an opportunity to reshape health care only shows that his entire motivation is to forever adjust major parts of the US economy to fit his worldview, regardless of the real consequences to Wall Street or Main Street.

172 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:00am

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

173 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:04am

re: #162 yma o hyd

Could do - never thought of that :-)

Has a good ring to it, doesn’t it?

I like it….kind hip-hoppy….right at his intellectual level.

174 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:09am

re: #136 rightymouse

OT - but my suitcase from Cancun via Atlanta to Cleveland yesterday was invaded by TSA there and they took about 4 packs of cigs and a lighter. Also a book is missing. Apparently, we can’t pack lighters now in check-in baggage but can have them in carry-on. No mention in the inserts they stuffed in my bag about cigs or books.

You ought to consider sending them back and explain that the taxes on cigarettes funds childrens health care and if the cared about the children then they would smoke,too.

175 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:28am

re: #168 MandyManners

True, but I’d rather assume that they were too illiterate to read the cover.
The alternative is too scary to think about.

176 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:20:56am

re: #156 yma o hyd

Aha!
That baggage checker wasn’t of a certain religious persuasion, was he?

I hope you make a stink about this. I think its outrageous.

My hubby and I talked about this and he said that TSA would just deny everything. They had also unwrapped a carving I bought from him and rewrapped it with TSA tape. It arrived chipped although I had carefully folded it in clothing so that would not happen. Am not happy with TSA right now.

177 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:21:00am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?


No.

178 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:21:33am

re: #166 MandyManners

I’d raise hell.

Me too!
And regardless of the reason for pinching this book, or who done it - this just offers itself for a jolly little note to be sent across the blogosphere.

179 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:21:50am

re: #167 MandyManners

Theft.

That’s what I figure. They left the empty carton inside the bag. How lovely.

180 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:23:06am
181 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:24:06am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?


Nope.

182 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:24:15am

re: #176 rightymouse

My hubby and I talked about this and he said that TSA would just deny everything. They had also unwrapped a carving I bought from him and rewrapped it with TSA tape. It arrived chipped although I had carefully folded it in clothing so that would not happen. Am not happy with TSA right now.

I’d be incandescent!

Well, while you may not get much joy out of the TSA, just making public which book was taken from your baggage should raise some eyebrows.

183 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:24:21am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

Delta State University, home of the Fighting Okra!

184 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:24:59am
185 wong fei hung  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:25:19am

Flippin’ brilliant. Iowahawk is choice.

-WFH

186 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:25:25am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

You and some old woman in East Texas.

187 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:25:28am
188 wiffersnapper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:25:39am

Arrr mateys. There me Huckabee and McCain mutineers here. Make ‘em walk the plank!

189 wiffersnapper  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:00am

Thar be*

my typing has been so off today

190 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:11am

re: #187 MandyManners

Well said. Tea?

191 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:25am

re: #167 MandyManners

Theft.

You may be right. If they’d stolen my stuff, I’d hope they read the book, at least, rather than sell it.

192 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:42am
193 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:42am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

There’s this place in the US called “the south.” Drop in sometime. You’ll make some friends.

194 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:26:44am

Puff piece by ABC. You have to watch it to find out it’s only 45 jobs in two different states. One worker says the stimulus is working because now he can take his family to the movies once in a while. Oy.
Economic stimulus starts getting workers back on the job

195 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:00am

re: #134 yma o hyd

Aww - I dunno …
Don’t think its used much here, tbh.
I only use it on the interweb because its so expressive even when written!

Yes, it is expressive, that’s fer sure.

196 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:04am

re: #180 MandyManners

He doesn’t wanna’ stop. He’s a freakin’ narcissist.

Digging the hole he’s in deeper every time he opens his mouth - it’ll come to haunt him.

Given today’s facilities of ‘saving’ his every word he ought to remember that he cannot unsay what he once said. People do remember, and lise will be found out and settle on him like flies.
There will be so many in the end that even the MFM won’t be able to rescue him.

197 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:36am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

No, I like Okra, esp. okra & tomatoes or fried.
OR pickled, yummy!

198 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:42am
199 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:27:48am

Sorry, but the name Chas Freeman sounds like some Hollywood scripted cartoon charachter preppie douchebag who’d be played by Ted McGinley…

200 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:25am

re: #192 MandyManners

If I ever forget that you’re from GB, you use a marvelous word or phrase that reminds me.

:-)))

201 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:30am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

No. :D Maybe one of the few in Colorado, though.

202 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:55am
203 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:28:57am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

But you may be one of the very few who knows what okra looks like.

I was in the grocery store one day and a lady stopped me to ask me to point her to the okra.

204 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:29:24am
205 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:29:32am

re: #175 ConservatismNow!

True, but I’d rather assume that they were too illiterate to read the cover.
The alternative is too scary to think about.

* * *
My copy of “Infidel” with Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s beautiful image, clearly states:

“Ayan Hirsi Ali is one of Europe’s most controversial political figures and a target for terrorists. A notably enigmatic personality whose fierce criticisms of Islam have made her a darling of …conservatives…and…popular with leftists…Soft-spoken but passionate.” —The Boston Globe

206 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:29:48am

Here we go…..

Obama Ponders Outreach
to Elements of the Taliban

207 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:29:55am

re: #171 lawhawk

Hardships are going to be compounded by Obama’s economic policies and the failure of the Fed and Treasury to get their house in order.

He’ll certainly drive a new era of tax evasion. Anyone that doesn’t want to have the value of their capital eroded by the inescapable tax of inflation can just put their money in a Swiss bank (just contact a UBS broker). According to the Swiss, the only rule is, if you can get the money into the bank, they’ll keep the IRS out.

The question to the U.S. Congress:

Which of you has a Swiss bank account, either at UBS, or at another firm?

Are you on the IRS list of tax evaders?

If no, prove it. If yes, pay-up, before you ask for any more of our tax-money.

This ‘aint their grandfather’s Tea Party.

208 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:29:58am

re: #186 AuntAcid

You and some old woman in East Texas.

Just wondering. I was having a moment enjoying the pieces of okra in my home made veggie soup and I was thinking of how many people I have heard talk about hating it.

Then again, I like eggplant.

209 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:30:03am

re: #182 yma o hyd

I’d be incandescent!

Well, while you may not get much joy out of the TSA, just making public which book was taken from your baggage should raise some eyebrows.

I feel violated. Lighters, cigs and a book taken by my own government.

210 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:30:07am
211 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:30:58am

Question, with advance apologies to Pillsbury:

Why do so many of these guys look like the Pillsbury doughboy?

212 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:27am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton


Love eggplant.

213 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:30am

re: #204 MandyManners

Or, trashed it.

….and that someone then picked it out of the trash and read it. :D

214 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:34am

re: #193 rwmofo

There’s this place in the US called “the south.” Drop in sometime. You’ll make some friends.

I lived there almost 20 years.

215 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:40am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

Yes.

216 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:49am

re: #194 ciaospirit

Puff piece by ABC. You have to watch it to find out it’s only 45 jobs in two different states. One worker says the stimulus is working because now he can take his family to the movies once in a while. Oy.
Economic stimulus starts getting workers back on the job

When ABC (or any of the MFMSM) claims that a left-wing government program had positive results, this should cause your BS Detector to red-line.

217 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:31:54am

re: #205 alegrias

That would require reading something beyond Yahoo Answers and ESPN. I have a very low opinion of TSA workers. Can you tell?

218 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:32:47am

re: #210 MandyManners

Malignant narcissism

Youtube Video

219 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:32:57am
220 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:06am

re: #179 rightymouse

That’s what I figure. They left the empty carton inside the bag. How lovely.

A patch or two would have been nice.

221 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:39am

Gotta go for a bit.

Hubby hit a deer with MY car last Sunday morning after dropping me off at the airport so we’re picking up a rental now because mine is still in the shop.

Later.

222 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:33:43am

re: #219 MandyManners

And then left it on a bus….

…..where a librarian found it…..

223 notutopia  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:34:17am

Iowahawk, after this short 2 month nosedive cruise with Obama, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Maybe, I’ll try both at the same time, it seems appropriate at this time, given that the moon has more pull on our historical tides, than our current conservative party in formulating a strong comeback.

224 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:34:22am

re: #180 MandyManners

He doesn’t wanna’ stop. He’s a freakin’ narcissist.

* * *
Obama’s not a freaking narcissist! According to Politico staff writer Nia-Malika Henderson’s article, Obama is a

Whistleblower: Obama Sends Messages Whites Don’t Hear

(such as when asked by a cashier at Ben’s Chili Bowl whether he wanted his change back, Obama said: “Nah, we straight.”)

(and the reporter reports a clip of this exchange became an Internet hit amongst morons swooning for his mad coolness…) politico.com on March 3, 2009

225 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:34:57am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

Just wondering. I was having a moment enjoying the pieces of okra in my home made veggie soup and I was thinking of how many people I have heard talk about hating it.

Then again, I like eggplant.

I would try most food well prepared and probably like it.

226 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:35:25am

re: #193 rwmofo

There’s this place in the US called “the south.” Drop in sometime. You’ll make some friends.

Is there a ‘northern’ vegetable that y’all don’t like?

227 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:35:37am

Good afternoon Lizards!
How is everyone this beautiful, fine, wonderful day?
Got home from playing golf this morning…We had so much fun…

228 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:36:01am

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

I lived there almost 20 years.

I grew up in SC. One of the great things I remember as a kid was when my parents would stop at these road-side set-ups where farmers or their families were selling fresh vegetables - and boiled peanuts (really cheap too).

229 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:36:08am

re: #225 AuntAcid

I would try most food well prepared and probably like it.

Try some pickled okra.

230 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:36:21am

re: #226 debutaunt


Yankee carrots?

Or in my case, ‘Yankee’ anything….

231 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:36:39am

re: #206 BignJames

Here we go…..

Obama Ponders Outreach
to Elements of the Taliban

Oh, yeah. We can talk to the Taliban, but don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh—he’s dangerous!

232 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:06am

Oh! I have an idea for a cartoon. This means I need to hook up other computer and get my software running again (had to have the hard drive replaced, but it was free. Things tend to break around me, so I always get the long-term care package).

233 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:10am

re: #212 BignJames

Love eggplant.

…and brussell sprouts

234 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:14am

re: #225 AuntAcid

I would try most food well prepared and probably like it.

Er, I been to France many times. I can show you some stuff most people… get my drift?

Off to a little nap, crowds picking up at theatre for this show, which is good, maybe the financial crisis is over.

Freud and “god?” Makes for interesting theatre.

235 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:18am

re: #226 debutaunt

Do hippies count as vegetables? They don’t move much and are covered in dirt.

236 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:31am
237 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:46am

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

Just wondering. I was having a moment enjoying the pieces of okra in my home made veggie soup and I was thinking of how many people I have heard talk about hating it.

Then again, I like eggplant.

Eggplant is yummy.

238 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:37:55am

re: #233 pink freud

…and brussell sprouts

Mornin’ Pink!
I love eggplant, too, but you can keep the brussels sprouts.

239 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:38:09am
240 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:38:17am

re: #238 reine.de.tout

Mornin’ Pink!
I love eggplant, too, but you can keep the brussels sprouts.

Ditto

241 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:38:22am

re: #226 debutaunt

Is there a ‘northern’ vegetable that y’all don’t like?

Brussels sprouts, but I guess they’re from Belgium?

/

242 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:38:36am

re: #105 lawhawk

We don’t need another Reagan. We need lots of people at the ground level working towards improving the situation locally. Hoping for a Messiah - a chosen one - to lead the GOP and/or conservatives out of the wilderness is going to be a fool’s errand. Lay the groundwork to successfully winning at the local level will build towards wins at the state and national level.

you’re right abt. the ground level participation but ultimately we need a strong
conservative candidate who can galvanize people.

243 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:38:48am
244 abaleh  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:39:20am

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Am I the only person in the world who likes okra?

Okra rocks.

245 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:39:43am

re: #194 ciaospirit

Watched it, thanks. The particular crew they went to tape amounted to 20 new workers for a road repair project in Maryland. Once that project is completed they will be out on the street unless another tax revenue funded project is in line to start.

The money to create these temporary jobs are based on tax revenue which amounts to money removed from private sector investing and spending. Adding to this is the bloated methods and inefficient methods utilized for these public road repair projects (along with the majority of government make-work) lessens the economic value.

The next step in this public works employment scheme will more than likely be a hike in the gasoline tax in order to sustain the political value.

246 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:09am
247 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:10am

re: #238 reine.de.tout

Mornin’ Pink!
I love eggplant, too, but you can keep the brussels sprouts.

Hi you! food thread? Awesome reine!
I hate spinach..The only veggie in the whole world I can’t eat…

248 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:14am

re: #238 reine.de.tout

Morning reine! Isn’t this weather gorgeous!?

I steam them then sprinkle maggi over them ….delicious!

249 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:38am

re: #242 nyc redneck

All I know is Hussein Dolt is giving the GOP the 2010 mid-terms on a silver platter right now…..pissing away this opportunity and allowing him to serve out the rest of his term unchecked would be inexcuseable…..

250 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:39am

re: #226 debutaunt

Is there a ‘northern’ vegetable that y’all don’t like?

winter squash

251 rwmofo  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:40:45am

re: #211 Catttt

Question, with advance apologies to Pillsbury:

Why do so many of these guys look like the Pillsbury doughboy?

Don’t hate fat guys. They know where all the restaurants are.

252 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:41:19am
253 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:41:30am

re: #206 BignJames
Hi BignJames! From your link: “‘Look, I wish I had the luxury of just dealing with a modest recession or just dealing with health care or just dealing with energy or just dealing with Iraq or just dealing with Afghanistan,” Mr. Obama said. “I don’t have that luxury, and I don’t think the American people do, either.’ ”
Well guess what Obamamessiah, neither did George W. Bush and he was facing a war that was brought to our shores and he at least kept us safe. What he hell are you doing to keep us safe, hmmm?

254 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:41:32am

re: #217 ConservatismNow!

That would require reading something beyond Yahoo Answers and ESPN. I have a very low opinion of TSA workers. Can you tell?

* * * *
I understand our frustration with these occasional bad apples & thieves.

Let us not forget: They also serve our country who have to frisk people all day. Imagine some of the stinkers & disgusting abusive passengers traveling in & through our great country.

Remember the Cuban-American Miami customs employee who denied one of the 9-11 attackers entrance into the USA?

God bless MOST of those friskers looking out for our safety.
Sorry but all things considered, I’m glad these folks show up to work every day.

255 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:41:41am

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Hi you! food thread? Awesome reine!
I hate spinach..The only veggie in the whole world I can’t eat…

So like myself, you weren’t affected by that spinach recall a few years back….

/Popeye couldn’t be reached for comment

256 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:41:47am

re: #243 MandyManners

Doubtful. Missus CN was going for her Masters in Library Science. She stopped after she realized that most librarians are big government liberals. They probably trashed it because it didn’t meet their worldview. Granted that Laura Bush was a librarian, but that’s like a needle in the haystack.

257 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:42:00am
258 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:42:29am

re: #253 realwest

Hi Realwest! Hope today finds you well

259 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:42:38am

Why Cloward-Piven is a bullshit conspiracy theory.

It is, by definition, a conspiracy theory. There’s no way around it; Obama is secretly planing to destroy America to create a socialist utopia. One of the first obvious problems is that he can’t do it alone. All of the Clintonistas in his cabinet (statist liberals) would have to go along with it without blowing the whistle. It would also require Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke (A Bush appointee) cooperate and at least remain silent while this dastardly plan unfolds. It simply wouldn’t happen.
Also, if Obama did want to destroy the economy he could easily do it. I’m not talking about Dow 6,000. I’m talking Dow 1,000. With one wacky statement about nationalizing the entire economy while wearing a pink tu-tu and a viking helmet investors would bail. With a crazy executive order to abolish the federal reserve (or something like that) the economy would implode. It would be very easy for him to do.
Why would he wait and kill the economy slowly? He has 4 years before reelection and building a prosperous utopia from scratch is going to take time (see Chavez). Why would he risk ruining the economy and have to face reelection before the rebuilding is complete?

Not everything is a communist conspiracy. There are plenty of reasons to oppose Obama’s policies without being a lunatic about it.

260 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:42:41am
261 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:44:18am
262 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:44:33am

re: #229 reine.de.tout

Try some pickled okra.

Yummmm!

Those really look good. The local stores carry these - they are good.

263 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:45:01am

re: #260 MandyManners

I dated a Belgian in college. I called him “Sprout”.

He must’ve been overjoyed with that nick. :D

264 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:45:04am
265 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:45:11am

re: #206 BignJames

Here we go…..

Obama Ponders Outreach
to Elements of the Taliban

A lovely little puff pice for Peebo by the NYSlimes …

266 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:45:18am
267 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:45:23am

re: #243 MandyManners

;D The end.

268 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:45:52am

re: #254 alegrias

It is scary to think that we have set up an department with near complete control over who flies and who does not. That’s an incredible amount of power these people hold. Imagine what would happen if the pinkos had a push to get hired in these TSA jobs like they did with academia and hollywood.

269 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:46:12am
270 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:46:59am

re: #222 Catttt

…..where a librarian found it…..


who wasn’t a leftie moonbat…

271 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:47:02am

re: #262 Catttt

Yummmm!

Those really look good. The local stores carry these - they are good.

The pickled green beans are just as good as the pickled okra. Both are excellent to use as garnishment for bloody marys.

272 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:47:02am
273 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:47:09am

re: #231 wrenchwench

Oh, yeah. We can talk to the Taliban, but don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh—he’s dangerous!

* * *
That’s because talking to Taliban or Hamas people is no big deal when people like William Bill Ayers the domestic terrorist are your friends! And Obama knows the Taliban ‘hood, having “toured” Pakistan in early 1980-1981 with his classmates.

Obama talked to Hamas’ Palestinian Liberation Organization spokesman, Khalid Rashidi. Heck, Obama dined frequently at Khalidi’s home and thanked Khalidi’s wife for their hospitality.

274 Spar Kling  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:47:18am

re: #131 Capitalist Tool

Which brings all the fashionable talk of revolution into a different light as just part of the plan- goad them until they spill a little blood in the streets and then use that as the excuse to finally gain total control.

Very true, but Statists can easily find excuses. Just see what they will do in the name of global warming “science” or any other crisis, whether it’s real, manufactured, or imagined.

I’m sure that the leadership of the New Federal Government of the USSA (United Socialist States of America) forsees the difficult task ahead: to gain absolute power without encountering a breakup as what happened to the former USSR. This means that state governments will first need to be impoverished and brought under greater Federal dependency.

And a majority of American people are so gullible and docile … what an exciting time this must be for socialists.

Friedrich Hayek, here we come!

-sk

275 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:47:42am

re: #230 Fenway_Nation

Yankee carrots?

Or in my case, ‘Yankee’ anything….

hahahahahahahahaaa

276 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:48:05am
277 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:48:32am

re: #233 pink freud

…and brussell sprouts


sauteed in garlicky butter…

278 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:48:39am

re: #262 Catttt

Yummmm!

Those really look good. The local stores carry these - they are good.

Those look good! But pricey, no?

$15.95 vs. about $3 for the Louisiana version

279 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:48:45am
280 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:48:50am

re: #238 reine.de.tout

Mornin’ Pink!
I love eggplant, too, but you can keep the brussels sprouts.

* * *
With butter & some dark balsamic vinegar, brussels sprouts are to die for.

281 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:49:03am

re: #255 Fenway_Nation

So like myself, you weren’t affected by that spinach recall a few years back….

/Popeye couldn’t be reached for comment

A terrorist’s plot to poison all the spinach in the world will leave you and I totally unaffected..As the last remaining lizards alive we can only hope the few remaining survivors are Brazilian supermodels..
We need to repopulate the world…
/Walter is probably writing the script as we talk..:)

282 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:49:14am

re: #266 ploome hineni

how can you eat a thing that discharges mucus?

The mucus isn’t there when they are heartily pickled. They’re just a crisp, tasty veggie.

It goes away when you fry them also.

My mom eats boiled okra! Ewwwwww.

283 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:49:20am

re: #266 ploome hineni

how can you eat a thing that discharges mucus?

LOL!
Pickled okra aren’t as mucousy as plain boiled okra.
Have you tried them?

284 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:49:48am
285 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:50:13am

re: #262 Catttt

Yummmm!

Those really look good. The local stores carry these - they are good.

a good start to work up to Kimchi.

286 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:50:20am
287 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:50:26am

re: #266 ploome hineni

how can you eat a thing that discharges mucus?

Come on. Are you saying you’ve never eaten gumbo?

Wish I had some now.

288 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:50:32am

Did somebody say “Brazilian supermodels”?

289 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:04am

re: #280 alegrias

* * *
With butter & some dark balsamic vinegar, brussels sprouts are to die for.

Yes! and also with debutant’s garlicky butter …yum yummm

290 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:14am

re: #207 blackpajamas
“The question to the U.S. Congress:

Which of you has a Swiss bank account, either at UBS, or at another firm?

Are you on the IRS list of tax evaders?

If no, prove it. If yes, pay-up, before you ask for any more of our tax-money.”
Love it, but of course they will lie about it; maybe not if you put ‘em under oath, but you’d need a Super-Prosecutor (not a “special prosecutor) with an awful lot of assistant prosecutors, accountants and investigators to make that work.
But boy I’d sure love to see that.
I’d bet we’d turn up all sorts of chicanery, notwithstanding that they (congresscritters) already make a pretty good living, supplemented by their recent raise and the additonal $90,000 in “spending money”, AND they have the absolute BEST health care program in the nation: 100% of all Medical, Dental, Eyecare, prescriptions and hospital coverage and it’s FREE to them.

291 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:22am

re: #284 MandyManners

You can get rid of the smell of boiling Brussel sprouts by dropping in some walnut shells.

Man. Got sick after eating brussel sprouts when I was a kid. Now just looking at them makes my gorge rise. And the smell?

BAZOOKA-BARF!

292 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:26am
293 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:46am

re: #259 Killgore Trout

More thought here….
The Cloward-Piven Candidate?

If Obama believes in and fights for Cloward-Piven, then he will have a contradiction at the heart of his presidency, for presidents are admired for their accomplishments, not the crises they create by screwing up. Or does Obama plan to go past the crisis phase to the institution of socialism?

Another thing that makes me suspicious of Cloward-Piven is that, as Mises and the Austrian economists have demonstrated, government intervention creates crises regardless of the motivation of interventionists. Many politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, earnestly think they are making things better when they pass laws such as Sarbanes-Oxley or the Community Reinvestment Act. (Are the well meaning ones mere useful idiots of the radicals?)

Finally, Simpson’s theory reminds me of the John Birch Society’s old ways of finding a communist conspiracy behind, well, everything. As Ayn Rand wrote, the Birchers don’t understand the role of philosophy. Those who hold the same philosophic premises will tend to want the same political policies. Those who do not understand the role of philosophy in man’s life think conspiracy theories are at work.

None of my reservations refute the idea that there are radical groups out there that want to replace capitalism with socialism. No question, these leftist radicals exist, they have infiltrated to the heart of the Democrat Party, and Obama has had connections with these groups all his life, starting with his hard-line communist father. But the goals and machinations of the radical left are not the fundamental explanation of America’s stumbling from crisis to crisis toward socialism. No, at the root of the problem is the philosophy of altruism, which leads to government intervention in the economy to help the “little guy,” and which — rather conveniently for the acolytes of Cloward-Piven — does not care if its programs make the world actually better. With altruism, intentions are always more important than results. In the end, altruists are more interested in putting chains on the rich rather than raising the standard of living of the poor. As Ayn Rand showed, their goal is to attack the good for being the good. This destructive, nihilist philosophy led to Cloward-Piven, not the other way around.

294 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:48am

re: #288 Occasional Reader

Did somebody say “Brazilian supermodels”?

Somebody has got to save the world..

295 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:51:55am
296 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:52:19am
297 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:52:25am

re: #242 nyc redneck

you’re right abt. the ground level participation but ultimately we need a strong
conservative candidate who can galvanize people.

* * *
Can we agree to first topple the Congress since 2006 run by leftists?
Let’s pick off the low lying leftists ripe for the manure pile.

Remember Iraqis are taking their country back starting with the local tribes and governing councils.

298 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:52:26am
299 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:52:55am

re: #256 ConservatismNow!

Doubtful. Missus CN was going for her Masters in Library Science. She stopped after she realized that most librarians are big government liberals. They probably trashed it because it didn’t meet their worldview. Granted that Laura Bush was a librarian, but that’s like a needle in the haystack.

My mom was a librarian. Make that two needles.

Seriously, most of the librarians I know don’t trash books. In fact - none of them do. They tend to freak out at the very thought.

300 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:53:03am

re: #286 ploome hineni

no

I steam or boil veggies.and I never put butter on them

I don’t use butter either.
Here in the souf where I am, many folks season their veggies with bacon grease. Every vegetable my grandmother cooked, just about, was seasoned with bacon. She had a jar in her kitchen where she kept the left-over bacon grease.

PINK! You’re familiar with that, I’m sure?

301 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:53:08am

re: #286 ploome hineni

no

I steam or boil veggies.and I never put butter on them

Drenched in butter is the only way to eat veggies.

302 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:53:21am

re: #294 HoosierHoops

Somebody has got to save the world..

We could make a sequel to Watchmen, in which all the superheroes are Brazilian supermodels… I *like* it!

303 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:53:39am

re: #253 realwest

Must be some of that “Smart Diplomacy”

304 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:53:41am

re: #246 ploome hineni

I don;t see it anywhere

* * *
Sorry Ploome, I didn’t link to the actual article from Politico’s 3/3/09 edition.

305 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:53:53am

re: #296 ploome hineni

I can count on the fingers of one hand…..maybe 3-4 times

that did not taste mucusy

Bad cooks. :D

306 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:01am

re: #298 MandyManners

Oops. You’re here.

HI, OR!

Hoosier’s offhand statement was like my own personal Batsignal.

307 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:12am
308 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:16am

re: #292 ploome hineni

I love brussel sprouts

I made some steamed asparagus, sprouts and thin beans

a little salt, and wonderful

If you can find it, try some maggi sauce over your steamed veggies. I don’t know exactly how to describe it ….sort of a cross between a steak sauce and a seasoning sauce …very thin, vinegar-y a bit, but delicious.

309 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:22am

re: #301 screaming_eagle

Drenched in butter is the only way to eat veggies.

Dry bread crumbs fried in butter and sprinkled over veggies are also mega-yummy, especially on cauliflower!

310 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:28am
311 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:31am

re: #295 MandyManners

Adriana Lima got married. (Sssssshhhhh…don’t tell OR. He’ll come un-done.)

Note from my link that I’ve adapted to that reality.

312 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:54:36am

re: #287 Catttt

Come on. Are you saying you’ve never eaten gumbo?

Wish I had some now.

Gumbo’s great.

Or paella

/You guys are making me hungry.

313 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:55:02am

re: #305 Catttt

The Okra has to be fresh too. The frozen stuff just doesn’t work very well.

314 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:55:37am
315 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:56:00am

re: #258 HoosierHoops
Hi there Hoops! Yeah today finds me well, but tired from all the chores I had to do and there’s still about a third of the list (the most difficult, natch!) to go!
Glad you enjoyed your golf game! It’s currently 74 degrees, bright and sunny down here in Charlotte!

316 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:56:02am

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Hi you! food thread? Awesome reine!
I hate spinach..The only veggie in the whole world I can’t eat…

* * *
C’mon! Remember Popeye the Great American Salty Seadog!

How can one not like spinach florentine, great Italian flavor with fresh nutmeg?

Or Catalan style spinach with yellow raisins & pinenuts?

Spinach with Parmesan cheese?

317 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:56:06am

re: #298 MandyManners

Oops. You’re here.

HI, OR!

LOL

318 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:56:29am

re: #307 MandyManners

Ooh. Sorry to hear that. I felt the same way about tomato juice until I was facing a shitty deadline at a paper once and needed a potassium boost so I forced myself to drink some V-8. I love the stuff now.

Heh thanks.

I’ll take some nicely steamed broccoli instead. Others can eat the alien brains (my initial impression of them).

I’ve always loved V8. Lots of vite’s and sodium.

319 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:56:50am
320 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:57:25am

UCONN is about to go down to Pitt

321 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:57:32am
322 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:57:54am

re: #300 reine.de.tout

I don’t use butter either.
Here in the souf where I am, many folks season their veggies with bacon grease. Every vegetable my grandmother cooked, just about, was seasoned with bacon. She had a jar in her kitchen where she kept the left-over bacon grease.

PINK! You’re familiar with that, I’m sure?

Of course! I try to go moderate with the bacon and drippings, though …but my grammaw had the same thing, she had one of those old aluminum cannister things that she kept hers in. One of my favorite dishes is corn cooked with bacon and onions ….just brown the chopped up bacon, saute thinly sliced onions in the grease, add the corn and a little half and half. Perfect!

323 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:58:19am

re: #314 MandyManners

Now I have that theme music runnning through my head. Dagnabit.

Neil Hefti, baby. No flies on that.

324 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:58:20am

re: #312 Gus 802

Gumbo’s great.

Or paella

/You guys are making me hungry.

Ohhhh… There’s a place here in Mpls, El Meson that does a BITCHING paella.

NUMNUMNUMNUM

325 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:58:40am

re: #249 Fenway_Nation

All I know is Hussein Dolt is giving the GOP the 2010 mid-terms on a silver platter right now…..pissing away this opportunity and allowing him to serve out the rest of his term unchecked would be inexcuseable…..

* * * *
Amen! Obama’s yes-man Congress can be turned out starting right now!

326 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:58:52am

re: #290 realwest

“The question to the U.S. Congress:

Which of you has a Swiss bank account, either at UBS, or at another firm?

Are you on the IRS list of tax evaders?

If no, prove it. If yes, pay-up, before you ask for any more of our tax-money.”

Love it, but of course they will lie about it; maybe not if you put ‘em under oath, but you’d need a Super-Prosecutor (not a “special prosecutor) with an awful lot of assistant prosecutors, accountants and investigators to make that work.

But boy I’d sure love to see that.

I’d bet we’d turn up all sorts of chicanery, notwithstanding that they (congresscritters) already make a pretty good living, supplemented by their recent raise and the additonal $90,000 in “spending money”, AND they have the absolute BEST health care program in the nation: 100% of all Medical, Dental, Eyecare, prescriptions and hospital coverage and it’s FREE to them.

Well, since the Labor Department just released data indicating that the broadest measure of unemployment just reached over 14% this February (1 in 7 Americans either has no job, or wants a full-time job), and Obozo promised to manufacture over 3.5 million jobs, it sounds like he could sign up millions of special prosecutors to clean up Congress, with a Swiss vacation to boot! — that is, if he’s interested in the nation’s best interests.

:-)

327 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:58:55am

re: #300 reine.de.tout

I don’t use butter either.
Here in the souf where I am, many folks season their veggies with bacon grease. Every vegetable my grandmother cooked, just about, was seasoned with bacon. She had a jar in her kitchen where she kept the left-over bacon grease.

PINK! You’re familiar with that, I’m sure?

GAK! bacon grease? I just got totally grossed out…Eat something healthy cooked in grease? AAAaaaahhhhhhh!

328 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 10:59:34am

re: #257 MandyManners

Turnips if they’re not raw. I could eat my weight in raw turnips.

i love turnips. lightly steamed w/ bacon drippings (ok grease) and hot pepper flakes.
salt n pep.
when i was a kid, the farmer down the road always let us in the turnip field to pull all the turnips we could carry before he let the cows in.

329 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:00:03am

re: #301 screaming_eagle

Drenched in butter is the only way to eat veggies.

I spray them with I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter.

330 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:00:03am

re: #300 reine.de.tout


Or fat back.

331 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:00:26am

re: #321 MandyManners

I like to cook broccoli in a bit of chicken stock.

Hmm. That sounds good, have to try it. We steam it so it’s still kind of firm. Our kids love it that way.

Go figure.

332 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:00:30am

re: #320 screaming_eagle

UCONN is about to go down to Pitt

I’ve been saying here for a long time..Pitt is tough..they are men on the court..They are tough..watch out for them in the big dance..they come to play.

333 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:00:58am

re: #310 ploome hineni

are you saying that Coward and Privin did not describe a method of enabling a socialist agenda by reating crisis?

I dont quite understand your point

It does. What I’m saying is that Obama is not following the Cloward-Piven strategy. He could if he wanted to and there’s not much that could be done to stop him. He’s not. I think it’s over the top to describe to as a marxist/communist. I think it’s pretty clear that he’s a European style socialist, just like much of the Democratic party; Welfare state, entitlement programs, social engineering policies and high taxes. The only nuts and bolts difference I can think of right now is that the Euros have low corporate taxes but tax the shit out of the people. Obama wants to raise our already high corporate taxes and lower taxes for the population. That difference is minor. He’s not a marxist.

334 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:00am

re: #322 pink freud

Of course! I try to go moderate with the bacon and drippings, though …but my grammaw had the same thing, she had one of those old aluminum cannister things that she kept hers in. One of my favorite dishes is corn cooked with bacon and onions ….just brown the chopped up bacon, saute thinly sliced onions in the grease, add the corn and a little half and half. Perfect!

oh,
i’m getting hungry.

335 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:02am

re: #327 HoosierHoops

GAK! bacon grease? I just got totally grossed out…Eat something healthy cooked in grease? AAAaaaahhhhhhh!

Who said anything about healthy? :-)

336 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:15am

re: #324 esch

Ohhhh… There’s a place here in Mpls, El Meson that does a BITCHING paella.

NUMNUMNUMNUM

Looks like a nice place. Now I might be falling into a form of culinary depression. What are their prices like?

337 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:20am

re: #303 BignJames
Yep and calling it that is the ONLY thing that’s smart about it.
What an incredibly inept, obnoxious and narcissistic POTUS we have.

338 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:27am
339 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:42am

re: #300 reine.de.tout

I don’t use butter either.
Here in the souf where I am, many folks season their veggies with bacon grease. Every vegetable my grandmother cooked, just about, was seasoned with bacon. She had a jar in her kitchen where she kept the left-over bacon grease.

PINK! You’re familiar with that, I’m sure?

re: #328 nyc redneck

i love turnips. lightly steamed w/ bacon drippings (ok grease) and hot pepper flakes.
salt n pep.
when i was a kid, the farmer down the road always let us in the turnip field to pull all the turnips we could carry before he let the cows in.

*bacon grease*
you do read my mind.

340 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:44am

One the record - I hate brussels sprouts.

I like broccoli, except for the fact that it’s hard to spell.

341 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:44am

Brussel sprouts on the grill. Put fresh ones in tinfoil with olive oil, salt & pepper, a little butter, crushed garlic & let them get a little blackened - just a bit. I also poke holes in the foil packet to allow the hickory smoke to enter (wet chips go on before the meat of choice).

Delicious…

342 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:01:52am

Just on the radio right now: Obama considering “reaching out elements of the Taliban”.

I’m not making this up.

343 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:01am

re: #327 HoosierHoops

GAK! bacon grease? I just got totally grossed out…Eat something healthy cooked in grease? AAAaaaahhhhhhh!

LOL!
You just sort of stir-fry the veggies in a little bit of bacon grease.
Delish. Really.

344 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:24am

re: #295 MandyManners

Adriana Lima got married. (Sssssshhhhh…don’t tell OR. He’ll come un-done.)

She wanted him - how did this happen?

345 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:30am

re: #336 Gus 802

Looks like a nice place. Now I might be falling into a form of culinary depression. What are their prices like?

Wasn’t that beautiful?

346 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:35am

I know - let’s take a break and meet at the deli. I’m hungry!

347 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:48am
348 realwest  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:02:59am

Well y’all it’s been grand - Iowahawk was nearly as good as you all have been - but lunch and then chores are calling me!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

349 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:01am

re: #342 Occasional Reader

Just on the radio right now: Obama considering “reaching out elements of the Taliban”.

I’m not making this up.

Sorry, “reaching out to…”

350 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:10am

re: #339 nyc redneck

*bacon grease*
you do read my mind.

sometimes I even wonder if we’re actually the same person.

351 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:13am
352 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:19am

re: #341 Noam Sayin’

Oh, and a sprinkle of lemon juice.

353 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:31am

Lets hear it for the best leek dish evah!

Wash them, cut of green tops and the bottom, slice lengthwise, but not through, rinse in running water, cut into one-inch pieces and then cut through.
Melt butter in a pan, stick the leeks in, coat in the melted butter, turn heat to very low. Put the lid on it, sit occasionally, and after about five to seven mintues they’re steamed in their own juice.
Season with salt, pepper and some grated nutmeg - there ye go!

Now you know why we Welsh love our leeks!

354 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:37am

re: #344 debutaunt

She wanted him - how did this happen?

Duh, she’s trying to make me jealous. (Also, she’s probably still pissed that *I* got married._

355 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:51am

re: #316 alegrias

* * *
C’mon! Remember Popeye the Great American Salty Seadog!

How can one not like spinach florentine, great Italian flavor with fresh nutmeg?

Or Catalan style spinach with yellow raisins & pinenuts?

Spinach with Parmesan cheese?

Lucky for me..I’ve already had lunch..Spinach is by far the worst veggie known to mankind…
/you know I’m a very picky eater right? LOL

356 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:56am

re: #345 pink freud

Wasn’t that beautiful?

Sure was. Got me thinking about my checking account balance and perhaps fitting in something other than my typical bachelor diet.

357 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:03:58am
358 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:16am

Also look at who else is pushing the Cloward Piven conspiracy theory….
Cloward Piven Strategy - THE END GAME!

It’s nutty.

359 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:28am
360 BignJames  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:32am

re: #337 realwest


He’s gonna make us think of Carter’s term as “the good old days”.

361 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:35am

re: #341 Noam Sayin’

Brussel sprouts on the grill. Put fresh ones in tinfoil with olive oil, salt & pepper, a little butter, crushed garlic & let them get a little blackened - just a bit. I also poke holes in the foil packet to allow the hickory smoke to enter (wet chips go on before the meat of choice).

Delicious…

I should’ve known you were a brussel sprouts man, Noam. Upding!

362 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:37am

Fresh spinach=good. Cooked spinach=okay. canned spinach=blech.

363 screaming_eagle  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:45am

re: #342 Occasional Reader

Just on the radio right now: Obama considering “reaching out elements of the Taliban”.

I’m not making this up.

There not the enemy. Limbaugh is. Iran is someone we need to talk to. Britan is a country to snub.

364 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:46am

re: #342 Occasional Reader

Just on the radio right now: Obama considering “reaching out elements of the Taliban”.

I’m not making this up.

He heard they had a bumper opium crop.

He’s just trying to alleviate them of a painful trade surplus, in the only way he knows how.

365 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:50am

re: #342 Occasional Reader

See #206.

366 Racer X  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:04:56am

re: #259 Killgore Trout

Are you feeling OK?

I thought you were quite satisfied with The One™

You change your mind?

367 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:05:11am

re: #358 Killgore Trout

Also look at who else is pushing the Cloward Piven conspiracy theory….
Cloward Piven Strategy - THE END GAME!

It’s nutty.

Cashews, peanuts, walnuts, chestnuts or pistachio?

//

368 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:05:22am

re: #351 MandyManners

No flies on that, either. And who IS that chick dancing in the video? She’s certainly, ah, a healthy looking young lady.

369 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:05:29am

re: #361 pink freud

Back at ya, pink - ding!

370 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:05:32am

re: #336 Gus 802

Looks like a nice place. Now I might be falling into a form of culinary depression. What are their prices like?

It is nice.

Prices are high but not insane. Best if you make it a foursome, as they do a big pan of it heavy or light on seafood (more sausage and chicken) either way for about $45 IIRC. But that pan will feed 4 easy. So figure $15-$20 a head for that and a drink. Their sangria is really good too.

Oh, and call ahead so they have it ready when you arrive. Saves them table time and you sitting there hungry watching everyone else scarf down the ceviche.

/MAN I’M GETTING HUNGRY

371 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:05:54am

Killgore is trying to be serious while we talk about food.

We ought to pay attention.

372 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:06:07am

re: #353 yma o hyd

Lets hear it for the best leek dish evah!

Wash them, cut of green tops and the bottom, slice lengthwise, but not through, rinse in running water, cut into one-inch pieces and then cut through.
Melt butter in a pan, stick the leeks in, coat in the melted butter, turn heat to very low. Put the lid on it, sit occasionally, and after about five to seven mintues they’re steamed in their own juice.
Season with salt, pepper and some grated nutmeg - there ye go!

Now you know why we Welsh love our leeks!

Byger. PIMF.
‘Stir occasionally’ - thats what happens when a certain dog is trying to stick her nose into my trouser pocket!

373 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:06:23am

re: #366 Racer X


I thought you were quite satisfied with The One™


You thought wrong. He’s not as bad as I thought he would be but he’s still pretty awful. He seems to be getting worse over the past few weeks.

374 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:07:02am

re: #350 reine.de.tout

sometimes I even wonder if we’re actually the same person.

no, you’re the nice twin.

375 Gus  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:07:28am

re: #370 esch

15 to 20 per person? That’s really a pretty good deal.

376 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:07:44am

re: #371 reine.de.tout

Killgore is trying to be serious while we talk about food.

We ought to pay attention.

Actually I’m just trying to get all of the thoughts about Cloward Piven in one place for future reference. Please continue the foodie talk.

377 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:07:50am

re: #357 MandyManners

I like ‘em raw in salads.

absolutely.

378 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:08:07am
379 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:08:34am

re: #327 HoosierHoops

GAK! bacon grease? I just got totally grossed out…Eat something healthy cooked in grease? AAAaaaahhhhhhh!

* * *
Relax,
Olive oil can substitute for most “grease” then, even in some baked goods.

(Remember pigs are an important INFIDEL product & symbol for us to cherish and WIELD against the Caliphate’s sensitive jihadists)

380 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:08:49am

re: #362 ConservatismNow!

Fresh spinach=good. Cooked spinach=okay. canned spinach=blech.

Canned spinach?
That sounds gruesome!

Cooked spinach, if tis been freshly picked, is fantastic. The trick is to season it with a hint of grated nutmeg and to stir a knob of butter in before serving.

381 Racer X  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:09:05am

re: #373 Killgore Trout

Cool. I need to pay more attention then.

382 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:09:35am

re: #374 nyc redneck

no, you’re the nice twin.

*snort!*

383 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:10:33am

re: #376 Killgore Trout

Actually I’m just trying to get all of the thoughts about Cloward Piven in one place for future reference. Please continue the foodie talk.

You use the “heart” button? You can make a “tag” in your faves for all the related stuff.

384 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:10:59am

re: #229 reine.de.tout

That’a great website, but are, er, alligator balls what I think they are?

385 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:11am

re: #338 MandyManners

Tonight I’m cooking Italian sausage with ripe bell peppers, a few minced cloves of garlic and huge dashes of basil, orregano, marjoram and thyme in vegetable stock, then serving it over bow-tied pasta. I’ll serve it with a salad of romaine lettuce, cucumbers, celery and red onion and fresh garlic bread, toasted.

Do you have those Nature Sweet Cherubs - lovely sweet tomatoes for your salad.

386 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:35am

re: #361 pink freud

I should’ve known you were a brussel sprouts man, Noam. Upding!

i love brussels sprouts.
gramma’s meat loaf, mashed taters and brussels sprouts fried (lightly) in a cast iron skillet. (bacon grease, got to.)

387 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:36am

re: #383 reine.de.tout

That reminds me I need to clean out my favorites again. It gets awfully cluttered in there.

388 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:40am

14% Unemployment, according to the U-6 measure:

(Don’t believe the MSM employment data, check your U-6!)

“U-6 Total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers” [1]

“NOTE: Marginally attached workers are persons who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the recent past. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for a job. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule. For further information, see “BLS introduces new range of alternative unemployment measures,” in the October 1995 issue of the Monthly Labor Review.”

389 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:44am
390 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:46am

re: #333 Killgore Trout

I think it’s over the top to describe to as a marxist/communist. I think it’s pretty clear that he’s a European style socialist

Look, I agree, he’s not Stalin or Lenin. But he does appear to want to fundamentally alter the relationship between the US government and citizenry; and not in a good direction. See here for a description by a Stanford U. econ professor, not a nutty Paulian.

391 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:11:50am

re: #379 alegrias

* * *
Relax,
Olive oil can substitute for most “grease” then, even in some baked goods.

Heat a tablespoon or so of olive oil in a skillet, throw in broccoli florets, toss in some greek seasoning (provence herbs are wonderful too) add some more olive oil on top to soak the seasoning deep into the florets, and saute for just a few minutes.

392 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:12:10am

re: #375 Gus 802

15 to 20 per person? That’s really a pretty good deal.

Yeah most of the restaurants around here really aren’t that bad pricewise for what you get. At least not in comparison to when I was in San Jose.

Another one I’d recommend if you’re ever in the area is Hell’s Kitchen. GOTTA call ahead though.

I’d just about kill for their Bison Bread with homemade peanut butter.

393 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:12:25am
394 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:12:30am

re: #389 MandyManners

Malaika Arora Khan.

Khan? I’d like to feel her wrath. Heh heh.

395 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:12:47am

re: #340 Catttt

One the record - I hate brussels sprouts.

I like broccoli, except for the fact that it’s hard to spell.

Catttt is much easier.

396 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:13:08am

re: #384 vagabond trader

That’a great website, but are, er, alligator balls what I think they are?

Heh!
No.
They are like a crab-cake made into a ball - meat with a mixture of seasonings.

Alligator is actually very good.

397 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:13:26am

re: #379 alegrias

* * *
Relax,
Olive oil can substitute for most “grease” then, even in some baked goods.

(Remember pigs are an important INFIDEL product & symbol for us to cherish and WIELD against the Caliphate’s sensitive jihadists)

LOL
honestly, that occurs to me when i fry up bacon.
ha

398 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:13:43am

re: #386 nyc redneck

i love brussels sprouts.
gramma’s meat loaf, mashed taters and brussels sprouts fried (lightly) in a cast iron skillet. (bacon grease, got to.)

OMG.

I am starving now!

399 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:14:00am
400 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:15:11am

re: #380 yma o hyd

A spinach and walnut salad served with a balsamic vinagrette? Awesome. Sprinkle a little feta on top and it’s wonderful

401 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:15:15am

re: #395 debutaunt

Catttt is much easier.

Just remember it’s 4 “t”s, not 3, not 5, but 4.

402 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:16:27am

re: #400 ConservatismNow!

A spinach and walnut salad served with a balsamic vinagrette? Awesome. Sprinkle a little feta on top and it’s wonderful

Now that sounds indeed awesome!
Hearted for early summer, when the first crop is available.
I love balsamic vinegar! And feta …

403 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:16:29am
404 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:03am
405 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:10am

re: #390 Occasional Reader

That’s a pretty good article….

On the growth effects of a large expansion of government, the European social welfare states present a window on our potential future: standards of living permanently 30% lower than ours. Rounding off perceived rough edges of our economic system may well be called for, but a major, perhaps irreversible, step toward a European-style social welfare state with its concomitant long-run economic stagnation is not.

I think the verbiage is a little overblown though. I think “radicalism” is a little too much. I’d replace it with recklessness. We all know that he ran on a European socialist agenda (socialized medicine, etc). I was originally pleased after the inauguration when he started talking in practical terms; maybe this isn’t the right time to raise taxes, social entitlements might have to wait, etc. Over the past few weeks it looks like he’s getting ambitious again and that could be dangerous.

406 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:15am

re: #328 nyc redneck

i love turnips. lightly steamed w/ bacon drippings (ok grease) and hot pepper flakes.
salt n pep.
when i was a kid, the farmer down the road always let us in the turnip field to pull all the turnips we could carry before he let the cows in.

I accidentally bought turnips once and found out I really liked them. :D

Daikon is also really good. You can prepare it a lot of different ways it’s easy to grate with a cheese grater.

407 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:36am

re: #297 alegrias

Local turnaround will take another generation plus in my part of the country. We have dems with lifetime positions assured.Case in point, Dodd-Lieberman. The only Rs who get into office are crooked, and or Rino governors.

408 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:17:50am

re: #403 MandyManners

I like to wilt spinach with bacon grease and then pour in some vinegar, mustard, red onion slices and a bunch of pepper. I top it with a mess of boiled, chopped eggs.

You are just killing me Mandy..LOL

409 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:18:14am

re: #403 MandyManners

I like to wilt spinach

Mandy, my advice to any Satanist foodies who may be reading this and are thinking of cooking with spinach is to do as thou: Wilt.

410 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:18:24am
411 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:18:52am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

That works well with collard greens too.

412 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:19:06am

re: #409 Occasional Reader

Mandy, my advice to any Satanist foodies who may be reading this and are thinking of cooking with spinach is to do as thou: Wilt.

Satanist Foodies? Lots of fire grilling?

413 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:19:19am

Alternative measures of labor underutilization (BLS):

The U-6 Table

414 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:19:23am

re: #406 Catttt

I accidentally bought turnips once and found out I really liked them. :D

Daikon is also really good. You can prepare it a lot of different ways it’s easy to grate with a cheese grater.

If you have an empty spot in the yard that needs something, you can plant some taro bulbs (sold right next to the daicon) and get a lacy crop of elephant ears ….never know which ones will come up.

415 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:19:24am

re: #403 MandyManners

I like to wilt spinach with bacon grease and then pour in some vinegar, mustard, red onion slices and a bunch of pepper. I top it with a mess of boiled, chopped eggs.

that’s referred to as a ‘french country salad’ in a fancy restaurant.

we always called it “wilted lettuce” when i was a kid.

416 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:20:12am

re: #412 Desert Dog

Satanist Foodies? Lots of fire grilling?

And Devil’s Food Cake, of course.

417 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:20:32am

re: #396 reine.de.tout

Heh!
No.
They are like a crab-cake made into a ball - meat with a mixture of seasonings.

Alligator is actually very good.

I had that once at a place called Zedico’s.
It tasted like a 40 year old chicken raised in the City.

418 opnion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:20:50am

re: #342 Occasional Reader

Just on the radio right now: Obama considering “reaching out elements of the Taliban”.

I’m not making this up.

I got into a dust up with a couple of posters about a year ago, when I said that Obama had lingering Muslim sympathies.
A different point of view was, “He says he is a Christian, he is a Christian. ”
To me that is not the issue. His father was a Muslim as was his step father & he took Koranic Courses on Indonesia. A pal of his from those days says that BHO went to Mosque. I firmly believe that he has confliced sympathies & will be a disaster on the WOT.

419 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:20:53am

re: #405 Killgore Trout

That’s a pretty good article….

I think the verbiage is a little overblown though. I think “radicalism” is a little too much. I’d replace it with recklessness. We all know that he ran on a European socialist agenda (socialized medicine, etc). I was originally pleased after the inauguration when he started talking in practical terms; maybe this isn’t the right time to raise taxes, social entitlements might have to wait, etc. Over the past few weeks it looks like he’s getting ambitious again and that could be dangerous.

Thing is - those European ‘socialists’ who introduced the various welfare agenda after WWII were not commies, you’re right there - but they were staunch Marxists, certainly those here in the UK.

Have a look at the biography of Aneurin Bevan - he’s the one who set up the National Health service ehre, which PB0 want to copy.

420 ConservatismNow!  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:21:12am

re: #416 Occasional Reader

And seafood diablo

421 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:21:13am

re: #413 blackpajamas

Alternative measures of labor underutilization (BLS):

The U-6 Table

Great link, thanks.

422 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:21:51am

re: #406 Catttt

I accidentally bought turnips once and found out I really liked them. :D

Daikon is also really good. You can prepare it a lot of different ways it’s easy to grate with a cheese grater.

i love daikon radishes. i’m going to grow them this year.
chopped w/ just a little sweet vinegar, salt n pep.
nice.

423 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:22:00am

re: #396 reine.de.tout

Yes it is. I had alligator chili at a local seafood joint a few years ago, but sadly it did not catch on.

424 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:22:45am
425 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:22:50am

re: #409 Occasional Reader

Mandy, my advice to any Satanist foodies who may be reading this and are thinking of cooking with spinach is to do as thou: Wilt.

:D

426 natmarc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:23:00am

Is this supposed to be funny? I must be stiff… His late father accomplished more by spoiling himself only.

427 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:23:10am

re: #417 HoosierHoops

I had that once at a place called Zedico’s.
It tasted like a 40 year old chicken raised in the City.

Then Zedico’s did a poor job.

428 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:23:51am

re: #422 nyc redneck

i love daikon radishes. i’m going to grow them this year.
chopped w/ just a little sweet vinegar, salt n pep.
nice.

Just like the way grandma used to make them..
Very nice..good taste nyredneck…Her garden was just the best

429 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:24:06am

re: #391 pink freud

Heat a tablespoon or so of olive oil in a skillet, throw in broccoli florets, toss in some greek seasoning (provence herbs are wonderful too) add some more olive oil on top to soak the seasoning deep into the florets, and saute for just a few minutes.

* * *
Agreed!

Herbs de Provence (also great on lamb) & French Nuclear Plants are two great French inspired ideas I’d like to have in my country, the formerly great United States, currently under crappy management.

430 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:24:55am

re: #426 natmarc

Is this supposed to be funny? I must be stiff… His late father accomplished more by spoiling himself only.

Care to elucidate?

431 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:25:00am

re: #427 reine.de.tout

Then Zedico’s did a poor job.

I hope so reine..Cause that was one bad tasting tail.LOL

432 snowcrash  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:25:13am

re: #410 ploome hineni
I am late to the thread and probably out of place but Hillary Clinton did her senior thesis on Saul Alkinski. Must shape her political philosophy.

433 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:25:20am

re: #421 Occasional Reader

Great link, thanks.

You’re welcome.

Have a good day everybody, may you not become “marginally attached!”

434 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:26:18am

Hi all.
Anyone watching the World Baseball Classic? The Netherlands just defeated the Dominican Republic. Huge upset. Canada is leading the U.S. 1-0 in the first inning. They beat us last year.

435 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:27:20am

abaleh, if you’re still on here, I have another response for you from last night:

re: #152 abaleh

Last night I had a political argument with a friend of mine revolving around the Messiah. The guy worships the 0 and is in love with his rhetorical skills and the fact that he says what he’s going to do, unlike most politicians. I was able to throw out some strong points about the stupidity of his economic plans, but if anybody can provide me with links to send to him that explain why taxing the rich is futile as a long term plan, why bailing out companies such as the automakers is in essence nationalization with all its inherent shortfalls, &c, I would appreciate it.

Taxing “The Rich”

Obama is trying to get tax hikes on “the rich” through Congress to pay for all his promises to other people. But his simplistic Leftist worldview seems to have prevented him from seeing who the people are whom he proposes to tax more. Who are the people earning over $250,000 a year whom Obama wants to hit? Income is a sort of a pyramid. There are a few very rich people at the top but most of “the rich” whom Obama wants to tax are near the base of the pyramid: fairly close to that $250,000 mark. And most of them are hard-working people: doctors, dentists, businessmen and professionals generally.

So will they just pay the extra tax and grin and bear it? If the tax increase were limited to paying 39.6% instead of 33% on any income above $250,000, those just over the mark might not think the change worth bothering about — and sneering Leftist Jonathan Chait makes that point. But Chait fails to acknowledge that there is a lot more to Obama’s tax proposals than the new top rate. Obama also wants to cut out a lot of tax deductions available to those earning over $250,000 and he also has proposed increasing their tax rate on capital gains and dividends from 15 to 20 percent. So many professionals will take a fairly big hit if they carry on as before. So lots of them will reorganize their affairs so that Obama gets exactly nothing extra from them.

[…snip…]

So Obama’s increase in the tax rates could well bring about not an increase but a REDUCTION in the amount of tax revenue received.

436 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:27:36am

re: #422 nyc redneck

i love daikon radishes. i’m going to grow them this year.
chopped w/ just a little sweet vinegar, salt n pep.
nice.

My wife makes a dish with sauteed garlic and onion then adds tomato sauce and simmers..adding thinly sliced daikon a little later and finally, either browned chicken or pork…yummy!

437 opnion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:27:42am

re: #434 Lincolntf

Hi all.
Anyone watching the World Baseball Classic? The Netherlands just defeated the Dominican Republic. Huge upset. Canada is leading the U.S. 1-0 in the first inning. They beat us last year.

What? Bomb Canada!

438 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:28:35am

re: #434 Lincolntf

Hi all.
Anyone watching the World Baseball Classic? The Netherlands just defeated the Dominican Republic. Huge upset. Canada is leading the U.S. 1-0 in the first inning. They beat us last year.

How did Holland beat the DR? I did not know the Netherlands was a baseball hotbed…..

439 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:28:40am

re: #429 alegrias

* * *
Agreed!

Herbs de Provence (also great on lamb) & French Nuclear Plants are two great French inspired ideas I’d like to have in my country, the formerly great United States, currently under crappy management.

A friend of mine spent a month in Provence and brought back a huge ziploc bag of fresh herb’s de provence for me ….ten years ago. I have been looking for that exact taste since, with no luck. To die for.

440 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:28:41am

re: #434 Lincolntf

PIMF. Not last year, last time, in 2006.

441 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:29:32am
442 Occasional Reader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:29:38am

re: #437 opnion

What? Bomb Canada!

Those damn head-flapping Canucks! They’re positively begging for it.

(preemptive duck in case WriterMom shows up)

443 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:29:47am
444 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:30:02am

re: #437 opnion

What? Bomb Canada!

Youtube Video

445 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:30:03am

re: #432 snowcrash

I am late to the thread and probably out of place but Hillary Clinton did her senior thesis on Saul Alkinski. Must shape her political philosophy.

* * * *
It was during Hillary Clinton’s First Ladyship that Rahm Emanuel (fellow Chicago Pol), Paul Begala, Jim Carville and Stan Greenberg got their White House Oval Office experience—the four sleezemeisters currently assisting President Obama so ably.

446 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:30:20am

re: #409 Occasional Reader

Mandy, my advice to any Satanist foodies who may be reading this and are thinking of cooking with spinach is to do as thou: Wilt.

Yes - throw a handful of fresh spinach into your spaghetti sauce and gently wilt for a minute before adding to pasta, you bunch of heathens!

447 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:30:49am

re: #438 Desert Dog
Final score, 3-2.
I’ll wait ‘til I get the box score and post it. It was a great finish after the Netherlands scored all 3 of their runs in the first and barely held them off until the very last out.

448 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:30:49am

re: #434 Lincolntf

Hi all.
Anyone watching the World Baseball Classic? The Netherlands just defeated the Dominican Republic. Huge upset. Canada is leading the U.S. 1-0 in the first inning. They beat us last year.

I love the Netherlands team..Did you hear about they don’t hardly have money for bats and they beat a country that has put 432 players in the Major Leagues.. Old school players..They play for the love of the game ( great movie )

449 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:31:06am
450 opnion  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:31:11am

re: #442 Occasional Reader

Those damn head-flapping Canucks! They’re positively begging for it.

(preemptive duck in case WriterMom shows up)

Eh, they are eh. Drinkin Moosey & beatin our baseball team!

451 Baboon Cheeks  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:31:13am

re: #424 ploome hineni

Image: FrootyLoopsflyer.jpg

452 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:31:27am

re: #431 HoosierHoops

I hope so reine..Cause that was one bad tasting tail.LOL

This restaurant in Natchitoches, Louisiana (north Louisiana) - has some of the best Louisiana food around, including alligator.

A good way to try a bunch of stuff is to split their “sampler” platter appetizer with somebody.

453 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:32:12am
454 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:32:23am

re: #239 MandyManners

When it rains,…

No kidding. But I really refuse to stress out too much. lol!

Got the rental. A little Kia.

455 gmsc  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:32:36am

re: #437 opnion

What? Bomb Canada!

Sorry, 0bama is too busy making plans to destroy New Zealand, for their evil heinous thoughts, words and acts.
;)

456 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:32:38am

re: #441 MandyManners

That little shit has eaten all of my freakin’ croutons to go on the salad tonight. We’re having company and I have no croutons. Now I gotta’ go to the freakin’ store and buy some. I could just throttle him. Nothing is safe around here. He’s eaten a serving-bowl filled with raviolli and two bologne sandwiches with Swiss and that fancy French mustard, grey poupon or whatever. Four cupcakes for desert.

See - thats why I never let my lot into the kitchen unsupervised!

(He’s a growing boy - and he shows great taste!)

457 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:33:01am
458 Dirk Diggler  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:33:06am

Interesting thing about the U-6 unemployment measure is that it corresponds to the way unemployment was tabulated back during the Great Depression.

If the U-6 shows we’re at 14% now, we’re not to far from Great Depression numbers. The scary thing is that we’re only about half way through this, and the other shoe in the real estate mess (commercial) has yet to drop.

459 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:33:49am
460 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:34:27am

re: #441 MandyManners

That little shit has eaten all of my freakin’ croutons to go on the salad tonight. We’re having company and I have no croutons. Now I gotta’ go to the freakin’ store and buy some. I could just throttle him. Nothing is safe around here. He’s eaten a serving-bowl filled with raviolli and two bologne sandwiches with Swiss and that fancy French mustard, grey poupon or whatever. Four cupcakes for desert.

* * * *
Pardonnez mois, but I’m gonna report you to Child Protective Services for denying your child the staff of life, bread croutons.
Or the IRS, for having “rich people’s mustard”.
Or the Health department, for feeding your child four cupcakes.

Welcome to Obama’s neighborhood!

461 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:34:40am

re: #436 Desert Dog

My wife makes a dish with sauteed garlic and onion then adds tomato sauce and simmers..adding thinly sliced daikon a little later and finally, either browned chicken or pork…yummy!

that sounds nice w/ rice.

462 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:34:46am

Re: Spinach
I love the stuff but it’s a bitch to grow. It’s slow, slugs love it and it goes to seed as soon as the weather heats up. In the garden I grow Swiss Chard. It’s very attractive and will produce all summer long. You can even start it in the fall and over winter it with a little protection. Works great for cooking or salads.

For indoors I grow Malabar Spinach. It’s a very attractive and delicious house plant. Great for winter salads.

463 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:34:53am
464 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:35:27am

re: #441 MandyManners

That little shit has eaten all of my freakin’ croutons to go on the salad tonight. We’re having company and I have no croutons. Now I gotta’ go to the freakin’ store and buy some. I could just throttle him. Nothing is safe around here. He’s eaten a serving-bowl filled with raviolli and two bologne sandwiches with Swiss and that fancy French mustard, grey poupon or whatever. Four cupcakes for desert.

I have 3 brothers, Mandy.
I don’t know how my parents managed to afford to feed them.
BOYS EAT A LOT, and they will eat anything in sight.
they need it!

465 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:35:30am

re: #459 ploome hineni


Teach the kid to make more croutons. You’ll have some burnt croutons, some wasted bread, etc., but in a year or so you’ll be able to say:

Go make Mom some croutons, and he will.

466 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:35:43am

re: #458 Dirk Diggler

Interesting thing about the U-6 unemployment measure is that it corresponds to the way unemployment was tabulated back during the Great Depression.

If the U-6 shows we’re at 14% now, we’re not to far from Great Depression numbers. The scary thing is that we’re only about half way through this, and the other shoe in the real estate mess (commercial) has yet to drop.

Well, at least we have a steady hand at the helm in the White House. Otherwise, we’d all be really screwed….

///////////////

467 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:35:52am
468 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:36:10am

The Obama cut his teeth on agitprop, from his Commie mentor “Frank” to the social justice rants of Jerry Wright,ACORN,and all his other unsavory contacts. Seems to me as POTUS he’s having a grand wallow in the smorgasborg of leftist idealogy absorbed over his life.The navel gazing self indulgence once safely locked in his books is now about to smother us.

469 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:36:34am
470 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:36:35am

re: #452 reine.de.tout

This restaurant in Natchitoches, Louisiana (north Louisiana) - has some of the best Louisiana food around, including alligator.

A good way to try a bunch of stuff is to split their “sampler” platter appetizer with somebody.

A few years ago a bunch of us went to Zeico’s after work..I ordered the sampler plate..I had one bite out of all 6 dishes..I would die of starvation if I lived down south..LOL

471 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:36:49am
472 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:37:20am

re: #455 gmsc

Sorry, 0bama is too busy making plans to destroy New Zealand, for their evil heinous thoughts, words and acts.
;)

From that link:

‘But while the U.S. and Australia broadly continued their economic liberalization programs under both right- and left-wing governments, New Zealand didn’t — until now. Over the past nine years, Helen Clark’s left-wing Labour government rode the global economic expansion and used the revenue surge to expand government welfare programs, renationalize industries, and embrace causes like global warming. As a result, the economy stagnated while Australia took off.’

Same in the UK - thats how LLL government operate, be warned!

473 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:38:08am
474 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:38:22am

re: #471 MandyManners

But, he KNOWS those croutons were not snack food!

I dunno - I like to eat croutons as a “snack” sometimes. They’re tasty.
Buy him his own box of croutons. Tell him when they’re gone, to put it on the grocery list, but he can’t eat yours.

475 pink freud  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:38:37am

re: #470 HoosierHoops

No no no ….there’s always doberge (dobashe) cake!

476 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:38:42am

re: #457 MandyManners

What happened to the deer?

Hubby says he kept going but he thinks it must have died because he was going pretty fast and it hit the side of the car.

477 nyc redneck  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:39:10am

re: #462 Killgore Trout

Re: Spinach
I love the stuff but it’s a bitch to grow. It’s slow, slugs love it and it goes to seed as soon as the weather heats up. In the garden I grow Swiss Chard. It’s very attractive and will produce all summer long. You can even start it in the fall and over winter it with a little protection. Works great for cooking or salads.

For indoors I grow Malabar Spinach. It’s a very attractive and delicious house plant. Great for winter salads.

i love the rainbow swiss chard. all the stalks are either pink, yellow, red or light
green. and it can be steamed or made right into a salad. and it is easy grow.
beet tops are good too.

478 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:39:37am

re: #459 ploome hineni

kid is more important than the company

make the kid some more croutons

:)

LOL
I was going to remind Mandy that we raised 5 kids..3 boys,2 girls.
thou have not any idea from which you speak..I didn’t come home from work for 20 years without 2 gallons of milk and snacks..every single day.. LOL

479 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:39:43am
480 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:40:09am

re: #464 reine.de.tout

I have 3 brothers, Mandy.
I don’t know how my parents managed to afford to feed them.
BOYS EAT A LOT, and they will eat anything in sight.
they need it!

My domestic shorthair does that too, but she doesn’t need it. :D

481 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:40:13am
482 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:40:46am

re: #462 Killgore Trout

The ‘spinach’ in Cancun tastes like seaweed.

483 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:40:59am
484 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:41:02am

re: #463 MandyManners

He ate six scrambled eggs with cheese this morning, four sausage patties, five slices of toast and a pear for breakfast. Whatever happened to my widdle boy? He’s gwowin’ up so fast!

Thats how it goes - normal kids are eternally hungry, especially if they’re out and about.

485 esch  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:41:06am

re: #463 MandyManners

He ate six scrambled eggs with cheese this morning, four sausage patties, five slices of toast and a pear for breakfast. Whatever happened to my widdle boy? He’s gwowin’ up so fast!

Heh sounds like my son.

I can only IMAGINE what it’ll be like at 14.

486 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:41:53am

re: #464 reine.de.tout

I have 3 brothers, Mandy.
I don’t know how my parents managed to afford to feed them.
BOYS EAT A LOT, and they will eat anything in sight.
they need it!

* * *
You remind me my dear old dad, during the Great Depression, and his brother had paper routes so they could help their parents with extra “change.”

There was a POW camp near their North Charleston home, and the US G.I.’s guarding Italian “enemy combatants” would tip well for a paper, or give Dad & his brother a “gift” of rationed bacon which was not available or affordable otherwise.

My dad remembers always being hungry, and being nicknamed “Chow Hound”. He is 78.5 years old and still skinny as he was his whole military career.

487 abaleh  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:42:51am

re: #435 gmsc

abaleh, if you’re still on here, I have another response for you from last night:

Thanks again.
I actually read that somewhere today (don’t remember where).
It also said that reducing the deductible on charitable donations will only end up hurting charities.

/ but I guess since gov’t will take care of everybody’s needs, charities won’t be necessary anymore.

488 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:43:24am

re: #486 alegrias

* * *
You remind me my dear old dad, during the Great Depression, and his brother had paper routes so they could help their parents with extra “change.”

There was a POW camp near their North Charleston home, and the US G.I.’s guarding Italian “enemy combatants” would tip well for a paper, or give Dad & his brother a “gift” of rationed bacon which was not available or affordable otherwise.

My dad remembers always being hungry, and being nicknamed “Chow Hound”. He is 78.5 years old and still skinny as he was his whole military career.

What a beautiful story..I would like your pops..I can tell.. Kind regards

489 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:43:34am

re: #471 MandyManners

But, he KNOWS those croutons were not snack food!

Honey, I’ve raised 4 sons, a daughter and a husband. They ignore pleadings like that about food. Just a fact. Next time, hide the croutons in your closet. :)

490 reine.de.tout  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:44:09am

re: #486 alegrias

* * *
You remind me my dear old dad, during the Great Depression, and his brother had paper routes so they could help their parents with extra “change.”

There was a POW camp near their North Charleston home, and the US G.I.’s guarding Italian “enemy combatants” would tip well for a paper, or give Dad & his brother a “gift” of rationed bacon which was not available or affordable otherwise.

My dad remembers always being hungry, and being nicknamed “Chow Hound”. He is 78.5 years old and still skinny as he was his whole military career.

What a difficult life that was for your dad!

But yes - boys particularly need and will eat a ton of food.
My husband tells me when he used to get home from school, his after-school “snack” was 4 sandwiches. Then he would come in at dinner-time and have dinner, too.

491 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:45:21am
492 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:46:08am

re: #490 reine.de.tout

What a difficult life that was for your dad!

But yes - boys particularly need and will eat a ton of food.
My husband tells me when he used to get home from school, his after-school “snack” was 4 sandwiches. Then he would come in at dinner-time and have dinner, too.

Our 16 yr old will go to Panda Express every day after school and eat everything under the sun..And he can’t wait till dinnertime…

493 abaleh  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:46:40am

re: #441 MandyManners

That little shit has eaten all of my freakin’ croutons to go on the salad tonight. We’re having company and I have no croutons. Now I gotta’ go to the freakin’ store and buy some. I could just throttle him. Nothing is safe around here. He’s eaten a serving-bowl filled with raviolli and two bologne sandwiches with Swiss and that fancy French mustard, grey poupon or whatever. Four cupcakes for desert.

if you have bread you can make croutons.
heat a little olive oil (or use an oil spray) in a pan, use whatever herbs you like, and toss with bread cubes.
You can probably bake them to get a more crunchy feel, I’m just used to frying.

494 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:47:24am
495 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:47:55am

sports.espn.go.com>sports.espn.go.com>Box score for WBC, NED vs. DOM.

496 alegrias  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 11:49:43am

re: #494 ploome hineni

I love beet tops

and if you can find them

fiddlehead greens

* * *
In Obama’s America,

Eating Dandelion greens instead of arugula will be the next next thing.

497 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 12:06:37pm

re: #278 reine.de.tout

Those look good! But pricey, no?

$15.95 vs. about $3 for the Louisiana version

They are a lot cheaper at the local store, but still not cheap.

498 Scion9  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:11:01pm

I’ll have to go back and read what Cloward and Piven actually wrote (as opposed to what is presented in just the American Thinker piece), but forcing a ‘collapse’ or ‘crisis’ from what I recall is a misnomer.

The ‘collapse’ they wanted to force, is for the private sector to be incapable of providing for the needs of the populous; by shifting the scope of what the populous is entitled to, away from what it can expect to earn. This isn’t a literal ‘collapse’; as in chaos in the streets, and no private sector at all.

Barack Obama doesn’t need the private sector to fail, with any pink tutu stunts. All he has to do is expand welfare and entitlement programs in order to mandate a larger slice of the pie for the government in order to fulfill them. Once a welfare system is in place, it is basically there to stay.

Any system put in place to buy people’s homes for them with tax money, when they can’t afford it, is a permanent government entitlement for a segment of the populous. The ‘collapse’ is the shift away from being a nation of people that works primarily for their own benefit, in order to earn their keep. When enough people no longer feel that earning things is the paradigm, the collapse is already there.

I’ll be damned surprised if Obama comes out strong saying that people must earn their keep and actually meaning it and doing something about it. 4 out of 5 programs that Obama puts in place now, are permanent, and will continue to swing the focus towards what people are supposed to be given by government rather than having to earn it, the longer they go unchallenged.

Also, I fail to see how Obama is taxing ‘corporations’ while not taxing the individuals. A corporation is just a collection of individuals that is mandated by law to assemble within a certain set of government regulations and call themselves something specific. Taxing a ‘household’ consisting of two government licensed married people and their offspring isn’t any less of an artificial government construct towards collecting taxes, with arbitrary definitions. If it weren’t for government intervention there wouldn’t be any ‘corporations’ as a legal entity to be taxed in the first place, and no one would need a ‘license’ for marriage for the purposes of how the government dictates what property belongs to your family either.

I’m not even rich enough to be ‘middle class’ and my taxes that I do pay will not be going down. Nor am I likely to receive any additional entitlements that Obama has dubbed ‘tax cuts’. Everything will be more expensive for me, and the taxes that I do pay, will probably be going up much more than the $8/week that I’ll believe I’m getting when I see it, will cover. Not to mention any non-legally mandated employment benefits being slashed, and 401ks tanking.

Also, anyone who doesn’t think mainland European socialism isn’t rooted in Hegel and Marx doesn’t know what they are talking about. Socialist Europe is just a step along the path in Marx’s deterministic philosophy; and is organized along those lines. Stalin, Lenin, Bahkarin, and Trotsky were Marxists, but believed you could forcibly jump-start a Communist Utopia into existence without first concentrating the political power and means of production into the hands of statist Bourgeoisie, which would then work with/on the behalf of labor movements (and their associated voting blocs) to wipe out the petit-Bourgeoisie, pushing everyone not running the State/controlling the flow of capital into the Proletariat class.

The Eurosocialists are more Marxist than the Soviets ever were. Even Trotsky recanted his own theory about skipping over the altruistic totalitarian welfare state and go straight for worker’s paradise; and he obviously wasn’t a fan of the competing theory that worked towards those same ends either. What the Soviet’s did by force, was in part meant to be done through Democracy (which of course didn’t exist in Russia for the most part)

499 dual_boot_brain  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 1:33:43pm

Wow. Methinks the dinner atmosphere at the Buckley’s shall be a bit tense.

500 Sloppy  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 5:50:36pm

Re: #353 - Yma o hyd

My first wife, who was of Welsh extraction (maiden name Jones), made a leek-and-potato soup that was to kill for. BTW, congratulations on Wales’ win in whatever that international competition was. Also BTW, Wales is one of my favorite places in the world and one of the very few countries I’d like to revisit.

501 Catttt  Sat, Mar 7, 2009 6:01:51pm

Favorite phrase:

tired, twangy trailer park taxophobia


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