The Bob Cesca Podcast: The Full Babadook

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Van Cleave Law:

The Full Babadook — NSFW! TRex David Ferguson and Jody Hamilton are here today; The Nevada Democratic debate; Warren’s big night; Bloomberg’s implosion; The Office Space Printer; Bernie’s medical records, and reforming the presidency; Roger Stone sentenced to 40 months; The inevitable Trump pardon; Trump is the judge and jury for all of his fanboys now; Trump tried to sell a pardon to Julian Assange; Rohrabacher confesses; The demystification of the presidency; With music by Well-Known Strangers, and Alex Wong and Jesse Terry; and more!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:04:56pm

Stone looks like William Castle’s evil brother!

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:12:33pm

“I don’t think anyone is buying it. I just left a big — a huge Republican dinner here in the San Joaquin Valley of California, President Trump was out yesterday, it was actually a joke tonight,” Nunes said, while speaking in front of tractors.

“Nobody is going to believe this garbage,” he predicted.

Well, if Devin says it, it must be…so full of shit you could fertilize the Sinai with it.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:17:25pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:19:32pm

re: #3 Dread Pirate

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I like how Devin thinks a story about Putin wanting Trump to win means he wants Republicans to win. I guess he didn’t notice when Trump actually had negative coattails, costing Republicans seats in 2016.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:22:25pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

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Well, if Devin says it, it must be…so full of shit you could fertilize the Sinai with it.

May as well have asked Nitup Rimidalv. He’s the same guy who told Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:24:08pm

re: #3 Dread Pirate

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How deep does this rot go? It wasn’t the media. It was Maguire. I wonder if there’s any legal way Fox can be destroyed as a propaganda network because that’s all it is.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:29:03pm

Remember way back when we were talking about how Grenell was really bad, but it could be worse when the thing got around to nominating an actual DNI head? Oh yeah, that was yesterday! Welp, here you go:

Doug fucking Collins—I just want to crawl in a hole and sleep till next January.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:35:52pm

re: #7 BeachDem

Remember way back when we were talking about how Grenell was really bad, but it could be worse when the thing got around to nominating an actual DNI head? Oh yeah, that was yesterday! Welp, here you go:

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Doug fucking Collins—I just want to crawl in a hole and sleep till next January.

He’s not even on any committee involving foreign policy let alone intelligence. He’s reserves military but a chaplain and I won’t dismiss that position’s importance to the military but this guy would be a bad choice to be on the Intel committee and Trump wants him to be DNI. Trumps cabinet picks get more and more absurd as Trump loyalists dominate the opportunists.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:38:54pm

re: #6 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

How deep does this rot go? It wasn’t the media. It was Maguire. I wonder if there’s any legal way Fox can be destroyed as a propaganda network because that’s all it is.

There a reason I call Fox The Ministry of Truth.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:39:18pm

re: #8 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s not even on any committee involving foreign policy let alone intelligence. He’s reserves military but a chaplain and I won’t dismiss that position’s importance to the military but this guy would be a bad choice to be on the Intel committee. Trumps cabinet picks get more and more absurd as Trump loyalists dominate the opportunists.

Don’t forget—he and his wife also ran a scrapbooking store, so there’s that. And he likes to yell. But he has no intelligence background (and from what I’ve seen, no noticeable intelligence at all.) JFC—it just never ends.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:40:26pm

re: #9 Romantic Heretic

There a reason I call Fox The Ministry of Truth.

I used to laugh at the absurdity of North Korean propaganda about the Kim family. FNC really is something else.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:42:58pm

re: #10 BeachDem

Don’t forget—he and his wife also ran a scrapbooking store, so there’s that. And he likes to yell. But he has no intelligence background (and from what I’ve seen, no noticeable intelligence at all.) JFC—it just never ends.

I actually missed that. But yeah none. Not even a member of the committee but he is deeply devoted to protecting Trump at all costs and that’s all that matters. Can the candidates please talk about how dysfunctional our exec branch is? It’s crazy.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:43:16pm

re: #8 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s not even on any committee involving foreign policy let alone intelligence. He’s reserves military but a chaplain and I won’t dismiss that position’s importance to the military but this guy would be a bad choice to be on the Intel committee. Trumps cabinet picks get more and more absurd as Trump loyalists dominate the opportunists.

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which created among other things the office of DNI, requires “Any individual nominated for appointment as Director of National Intelligence shall have extensive national security expertise.” Collins doesn’t even come close to meeting that bar.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:46:48pm

I am going with Warren, too. The way she demolished Bloomberg is only a preview of what she will do to Cheeto, debate or not. Cheeto has incomparably more garbage on him than Bloomberg does, and he is not even a fraction as smart. Warren, in fact, has so much bad-assery available that she was able to graciously donate some to her rival Amy Klobuchar when Amy was being beaten up by Mayor Pete. All the loathsome Republican traitors have on Warren is the Pocahontas bullshit, and I predict that that will backfire spectacularly on them.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:50:29pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:52:40pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which created among other things the office of DNI, requires “Any individual nominated for appointment as Director of National Intelligence shall have extensive national security expertise.” Collins doesn’t even come close to meeting that bar.

Correct. Even that “central casting” hack from Texas whose name escapes me was at least on the committee I believe and a former prosecutor. Collins is only being considered because he’s a Trump loyalist. Trumps cabinet is a clusterfuck.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:53:38pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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DEAR GOD, WHO OPENED THE ARK OF THE COVENANT?!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:54:13pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Whole thing is almost like a parody of fundamentalist Christianity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 9:54:56pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

DEAR GOD, WHO OPENED THE ARK OF THE COVENANT?!

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The good news is you know Trump would choose poorly.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:04:11pm

I generally try to avoid commenting on a person’s looks…but Paula here looks like she went to the same plastic surgeon as Jack Napier.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:04:23pm

re: #14 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am going with Warren, too. The way she demolished Bloomberg is only a preview of what she will do to Cheeto, debate or not. Cheeto has incomparably more garbage on him than Bloomberg does, and he is not even a fraction as smart. Warren, in fact, has so much bad-assery available that she was able to graciously donate some to her rival Amy Klobuchar when Amy was being beaten up by Mayor Pete. All the loathsome Republican traitors have on Warren is the Pocahontas bullshit, and I predict that that will backfire spectacularly on them.

I’m in the minority here but I’m leaning Bjden. But Warren is my number 2.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:17:42pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:24:19pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate

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He’s a chickenshit. He denies and denies. And then he has someone claim “Of course he accepts it.” It was the same shit when he suddenly stopped making birtherism part of his scam and then trying to blame Clinton for it. His psychology will be studied years from now.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:25:21pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which created among other things the office of DNI, requires “Any individual nominated for appointment as Director of National Intelligence shall have extensive national security expertise.” Collins doesn’t even come close to meeting that bar.

You know that and I know that, but will it be enough to stop the Republicans from confirming him anyway? Who will be able to stop them?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:26:57pm

re: #24 BeachDem

You know that and I know that, but will it be enough to stop the Republicans from confirming him anyway? Who will be able to stop them?

Maybe Susan Collins will be concerned. Just imagine Doug Collins trembling in fear as Susan Collins expresses concern he’s unqualified.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:29:44pm

Anyone want to speculate who Sanders might pick for VP?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:31:04pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

Anyone want to speculate who Sanders might pick for VP?

Tulsi would be my bet.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:32:11pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate

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It’s never been my belief that Trump went into Election Night ‘16 expecting to win. Every indication has been that he and his cohorts expected to come close enough to whine about “voter fraud” or “electoral fraud” and give him a platform to spend years whining to the ignorant masses about how he was “cheated” out of the presidency. So when he won, it totally defied his expectations and left him with the impression that there had to be something about him that led to his victory.

This is why he is so vehemently against any other explanation for ‘16, but in particular the suggestion that Russian interference juiced the numbers in his favor. His insistence that any interference was actually in favor of the Democrats really fits in here, because it makes his “win” seem even more amazing to him, that he overcame efforts by Dems to rig the election to win by a “landslide.”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:32:14pm

re: #27 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Na…… She’s toxic. Even to St. B

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:33:28pm

Warren I think would pick Castro. Biden no idea but he would go younger and possibly WoC. Pete? No idea. Amy I think would need a liberal. Bloomberg? A lot of people say Abrams. Dunno but an up and comer would likely be it.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:34:08pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:35:54pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

Na…… She’s toxic. Even to St. B

I dunno honest. But she would be the type he would consider. Delegation is a big issue to me. Hence my tentative endorsement of Joe. I trust him explicitly there. It also is why I don’t like Bernie at all.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:37:08pm

re: #31 Dave In Austin

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PLEASE tell me this is a joke.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:37:28pm

re: #31 Dave In Austin

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Reminds me of all the stupid bacon products. And I like bacon.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:39:13pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

PLEASE tell me this is a joke.

We’re the country that made bacon perfume. Of course, it’s real.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:39:24pm

re: #23 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s a chickenshit. He denies and denies. And then he has someone claim “Of course he accepts it.” It was the same shit when he suddenly stopped making birtherism part of his scam and then trying to blame Clinton for it. His psychology will be studied years from now.

Another possibility: His craven performance at the July 2018 summit suggests that perhaps Putin showed him the receipts that he really did not win — that perhaps they even manipulated the vote count. He knows he is owned by Russia and has decided that is fine because Putin has shown him the way to install a family dynasty so that his offspring will rule this country when he finishes his two terms. And he is acquiring immense wealth by looting the treasury.

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BigPapa  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:41:05pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

PLEASE tell me this is a joke.

ha ha bro, you remember 2020? it was a hell of a year

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:41:32pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Another possibility: His craven performance at the July 2018 summit suggests that perhaps Putin showed him the receipts that he really did not win — that perhaps they even manipulated the vote count. He knows he is owned by Russia and has decided that is fine because Putin has shown him the way to install a family dynasty so that his offspring will rule this country when he finishes his two terms. And he is acquiring immense wealth by looting the treasury.

Whatever the hell it is, it ain’t good.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:44:07pm

I bet your favorite President’s room smells like Jordan Peterson’s kitchen too.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:45:41pm

re: #32 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:47:57pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

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I could see that easily.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:48:27pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

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You know, I was a kid once too. And I believed in a lot of crazy shit at the time. But eventually you grow up and stop believing in magic.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:49:17pm

Hope that Anymouse soon returns to us — otherwise night time tends to be very quiet.

Tales from the COVID-19 front: a South Korean woman infected at least 37 people at her church — and possibly many more. She was confident that she did not have the virus because she had not traveled abroad. Very troubling story, if accurate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:51:00pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

You know, I was a kid once too. And I believed in a lot of crazy shit at the time. But eventually you grow up and stop believing in magic.

A Berner friend of a friend really didn’t like it when I diplomatically said Bernie’s misleading a generation of young people.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:54:01pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

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One of my worst nightmares. I cannot stand that woman.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:57:11pm

re: #45 BeachDem

One of my worst nightmares. I cannot stand that woman.

I do not get her whole thing. She was a state senator who lost big time when she ran statewide. She’s also as you have noted an opportunist. She rags on the Clintons but they campaigned for her unlike Bernie whose career as a campaigner for other candidates is younger than mine.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2020 • 10:57:22pm

re: #44 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

A Berner friend of a friend really didn’t like it when I diplomatically said Bernie’s misleading a generation of young people.

A simple way to get a Berner’s head to explode: Ask them to explain how Bernie will make all his magic policies happen without win Congressional supermajorities. Any answer that revolves around “massive protests” or “poll numbers” is not serious, because if those worked then Trump would have been gone ages ago.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 20, 2020 • 11:02:14pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

A simple way to get a Berner’s head to explode: Ask them to explain how Bernie will make all his magic policies happen without win Congressional supermajorities. Any answer that revolves around “massive protests” or “poll numbers” is not serious, because if those worked then Trump would have been gone ages ago.

I swear dude. It’s like they don’t understand how government works. Bernie would be lucky to get some EOs out and maybe some legislation but not what Nina is promising there. 2022 would be Speaker McCarthy and 2024.

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Chrysicat  Feb 20, 2020 • 11:14:33pm

Yes, I know. Two floors downstairs. Been busy since before leaving for dinner.

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:05:17am

re: #43 Hecuba’s daughter

He may be over at Koas. He didn’t leave mad did he?

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Dread Pirate  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:12:46am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:14:16am

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:20:11am
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Dread Pirate  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:03:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:03:57am

re: #31 Dave In Austin

McDonald’s to sell limited edition six-pack of candles that smell like Quarter Pounder ingredients: Ketchup, Pickle, Cheese, Onion & Beef.

I would actually prefer Gwyneth Paltrow’s yee-haw over those it I were forced to choose

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:05:34am

re: #33 Targetpractice

PLEASE tell me this is a joke.

America is the master of postmoderinst irony when it comes to anything to do with food.

Europe’s leading intellectuals write books on it and spend their careers coming to terms with something that Midwestern kids who grew up within sight of the Golden Arches understand from birth.

(and yes, you could see the Golden Arches directly from our picture window)

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Chrysicat  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:18:38am

I’d been hearing about this one since this afternoon, but somehow until someone posted the BBC written article to one of my political Discord channels an hour ago, my ears had filtered out the “not treating it as terror” part.

Everyplace in the world that speaks this language is well and truly fucked.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:20:23am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

McDonald’s to sell limited edition six-pack of candles that smell like Quarter Pounder ingredients: Ketchup, Pickle, Cheese, Onion & Beef.

I would actually prefer Gwyneth Paltrow’s yee-haw over those it I were forced to choose

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Chrysicat  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:24:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:24:38am

re: #58 Chrysicat

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I’d been hearing about this one since this afternoon, but somehow until someone posted the BBC written article to one of my political Discord channels an hour ago, my ears had filtered out the “not treating it as terror” part.

Everyplace in the world that speaks this language is well and truly fucked.

The article indicated that the attacker had been attending prayers in the mosque.

And hey, 24-hour rule.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:52:25am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The article indicated that the attacker had been attending prayers in the mosque.

And hey, 24-hour rule.

As much as don’t particularly care for BoJo, he at least had the decency to acknowledge the incident.

That’s a damn sight more than Trump would probably do.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:03:58am

In Wuhan Coronavirus news,

That’s distinctly not good news. My morning student and I were talking about this, and he said he wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s already spreading here in Czech Republic as a silent epidemic, coinciding with cold and flu season. And according to long-term weather forecasts, we’re likely in for an early - and warm - spring….and that means allergy season kicks off, and people might well dismiss coronavirus symptoms as hay fever.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:26:06am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:37:17am

So, in today’s installment of “Dr. Lizardo’s Amazing Garbage Finds”,

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:49:39am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:53:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:55:35am

re: #66 Dave In Austin

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Dread Pirate  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:57:36am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:07:58am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:15:07am

re: #43 Hecuba’s daughter

Hope that Anymouse soon returns to us — otherwise night time tends to be very quiet.

Tales from the COVID-19 front: a South Korean woman infected at least 37 people at her church — and possibly many more. She was confident that she did not have the virus because she had not traveled abroad. Very troubling story, if accurate.

What’s more troubling is that trump overrode the CDC recommendations and opted to bring all affected Americans back to the US. No idea of any protocols being used when they return. That, is troubling. But it’s not like trump knows anything or cares about anything.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:19:34am

re: #71 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m on all nite Thurs-Sun nights. Graveyards at the ol’ Data Center. I’m just not much of a chatterbox.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:21:29am

re: #54 Ace-o-aces

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:27:15am

re: #73 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The ending of Goodfellas.

Trump will get to live the rest of his life like a schnook.

Goodfellas: REMASTERED - Ending Scene (1080p)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:32:26am

This is why the Trump-Russia 2020 will wind up being a big nothing burger to the population overall. This is from my Start menu (or whatever it’s called these days) and when I clicked to go to the news pages…look at the placement of this article Midway down the page of articles. MORE THAN HALF FUCKING WAY DOWN the list of all articles.

It’s not even in the top left position under Politics.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:35:31am

What is the Novel Coronavirus? Is this a mutation? It says that the new, “novel” CV causes the COVID-19, so I am confused.

Anyone help a dumbass (me) out here?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:38:31am

re: #76 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What is the Novel Coronavirus? Is this a mutation? It says that the new, “novel” CV causes the COVID-19, so I am confused.

Anyone help a dumbass (me) out here?

As per Wiki:

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), formerly known as 2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease, is an infectious disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, a virus closely related to the SARS virus

en.wikipedia.org

That’s the proper nomenclature for this particular outbreak. Me, I’m a bit old school, so I just informally refer to it as “Wuhan Coronavirus”, being as Wuhan is were it originated and it’s a coronavirus disease.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:43:40am

With the reported deaths in Iran, and now this precautionary self-quarantine (for lack of a better term) in Italy, it looks like we might well be on threshold of a true pandemic.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:45:30am

This is what I was referring to regarding Iran:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:45:31am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

As per Wiki:

en.wikipedia.org

That’s the proper nomenclature for this particular outbreak. Me, I’m a bit old school, so I just informally refer to it as “Wuhan Coronavirus”, being as Wuhan is were it originated and it’s a coronavirus disease.

Why would they call it Novel? If SARS-CoV-2 is a (the?) cause of COVID-19 does that mean Novel = Cause? To me, Novel means variant…but it does not seem that is the case.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:46:36am

re: #76 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Tom Cotton sez it escaped from China’s “Top-Secret Biolab” that was right down the road from the bush meat market that is the origin of the virus.

/Tom Cotton R-MO/

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:47:01am

re: #80 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why would they call it Novel? If SARS-CoV-2 is a (the?) cause of COVID-19 does that mean Novel = Cause? To me, Novel means variant…but it does not seem that is the case.

That I honestly don’t know; it’s epidemiology lingo, a highly specialized dialect of medical terminology.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:48:31am

re: #81 Dave In Austin

Tom Cotton sez it escaped from China’s “Top-Secret Biolab” that was right down the road from the bush meat market that is the origin of the virus.

/Tom Cotton R-MO/

IIRC, that particular rumor started with the Epoch Times, then the Washington Moonie Times and the Washington Examiner picked it up, and it’s been floating around and getting repeated, usually by RWNJ’s.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:51:17am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

And it was noted by sane people that spewing that crap is dangerous and need to stop. I swear these cultist thrive on the fear monger.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:52:37am

re: #84 Dave In Austin

And it was noted by sane people that spewing that crap is dangerous and need to stop. I swear these cultist thrive on the fear monger.

Cultists in general utilize fear as a motivator and to reinforce cult beliefs.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:55:01am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

IIRC, that particular rumor started with the Epoch Times, then the Washington Moonie Times and the Washington Examiner picked it up, and it’s been floating around and getting repeated, usually by RWNJ’s.

Which results in this.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:56:53am

re: #86 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I can’t say I’m surprised. Honestly, there’s probably more than a few dumbasses out there who probably think you’d get it from eating General Tso’s Chicken or something.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:08:08am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:08:56am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:16:27am

I will never understand why people are so taken in by traveling on a Petri Dish of the Seas. This looks more realistic than the brochure pics you always see. And some of these new ships are 14 stories tall having thousands of passengers (and thousands of staff).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:24:43am

Well, this is outstanding.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:31:42am

re: #90 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Some of those photos remind me of the cruise I once took (Long Beach to Ensenada and back, only a couple of days). I had a good time, and my friend and I had a nice cabin, nothing luxurious, but quiet. Luckily, neither of us suffer from motion sickness and my old Navy dad told me to bring some nice clothes and a tie for the Captain’s Dinner (and I told my friend to bring a nice dress, nothing super-formal or anything but above casual). She enjoyed it too, and she greatly enjoyed our self-guided tour of the seedier bars in Ensenada, LOL.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:38:50am

So, I have a rant.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:43:56am

Anyone care to wager it’s probably already starting to spread in Iraq? Maybe Turkey as well?

Some apropos cinematic scenes (some of these are absolutely brilliant, BTW):

Contagion Ending

Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Mid Credits Scene

Dawn Of The Dead (2004) - Intro

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steve_davis  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:44:46am

re: #60 Chrysicat

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the dog downstairs would be found dead from huffing the pickle candle.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:44:54am

re: #90 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I will never understand why people are so taken in by traveling on a Petri Dish of the Seas. This looks more realistic than the brochure pics you always see. And some of these new ships are 14 stories tall having thousands of passengers (and thousands of staff).

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I don’t get it either. I love the ocean and travel very much but cruises have never appealed to me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:47:49am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

Some of those photos remind me of the cruise I once took (Long Beach to Ensenada and back, only a couple of days). I had a good time, and my friend and I had a nice cabin, nothing luxurious, but quiet. Luckily, neither of us suffer from motion sickness and my old Navy dad told me to bring some nice clothes and a tie for the Captain’s Dinner (and I told my friend to bring a nice dress, nothing super-formal or anything but above casual). She enjoyed it too, and she greatly enjoyed our self-guided tour of the seedier bars in Ensenada, LOL.

I realize that those pics are of the extreme. But a floating apartment complex is not my idea of a good time.

I am glad you both enjoyed your cruise…and the underside of Ensenada!

Did you ever hear of a show called LOOK? It was on Showtime in the states years ago and it was all CTV with a story was built around the CTV action. It fascinated me. One of the episodes showed someone putting boogers on the handrail of an escalator and then all the people who touched it thereafter. (Found it! It was a movie first. Who knew? More about the show.)

That is literally seared into my brain and I now can never go anywhere without thinking about that. Not that it’s debilitating or anything but it is definitely creepy AF.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:51:19am

re: #97 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’d never heard of the series or the film, but just the things I observe people doing in my daily out-and-about….yeah, nothing surprises me anymore. Earlier today, I saw some young fellow, about mid-20s I’d say, cheerfully fapping away on the sidewalk across the street from a tram stop. I dunno….maybe passing trams gets him uncontrollably hot?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:58:03am

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hey. At least victims will get free credit monitoring!

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:59:45am

re: #27 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Tulsi would be my bet.

I was following a Kia Soul on my way into work this morning sporting both a Tulsi Gabbard 2020 bumper sticker and a Bernie bumper sticker. At least Tulsi isn’t angry all the time.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:59:59am

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I cannot think of a person who is more deserving of a hack. /

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:01:00am

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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Not only European, but also Socialist. Lambo is owned by VW which is at least 20% owned by German Government entities.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:08:47am

Translation (via Google Translate) - Minister of Health: The first confirmed case of corona virus was recorded in Lebanon.

Like I said earlier, I’d bet this is already spreading in places like Iraq, Syria (good lord, that’d be a fucking epic disaster) and it’ll eventually hit Turkey as well, if it’s not already present there.

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Ming5000  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:08:57am

I have been on four cruises and enjoyed all of them. They have all been in the eastern Carebbean.
The pictures in the article are the worst of the worst, some of them in abnormal weather conditions.
I have not felt crowded on the ships. There are a lot of people, but there are lots of places to be on the ship.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:09:56am

re: #104 Ming5000

I have been on four cruises and enjoyed all of them. They have all been in the eastern Carebbean.
The pictures in the article are the worst of the worst, some of them in abnormal weather conditions.
I have not felt crowded on the ships. There are a lot of people, but there are lots of places to be on the ship.

One of these days, I wouldn’t mind doing a cruise around the Mediterranean.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:12:25am

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

That sounds good. Someday I too would like to do that but for now I will settle for watching Rick Steves running around Europe. :)

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lizardofid  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:17:02am

re: #106 PhillyPretzel

That sounds good. Someday I too would like to do that but for now I will settle for watching Rick Steves running around Europe. :)

Have you seen “Rick Steve’s: Travel as a Political Act”? It’s pretty interesting.

Oh, good morning!

ETA: I just checked, and it’s on Youtube : )

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:20:35am

re: #107 lizardofid

It is interesting. Also his special on Fascism is very interesting. I find that there are many (too many for my taste) parallels between what is going on today and what happened back then.

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lizardofid  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:26:23am

re: #108 PhillyPretzel

It is interesting. Also his special on Fascism is very interesting. I find that there are many (too many for my taste) parallels between what is going on today and what happened back then.

Yep. And his take on the differences between regions and borders.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:36:45am
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jeffreyw  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:54:22am

Billy Bird and His Evil Twin, Billy

Good morning!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:56:05am

I wish he’d pee already. It’s COLD. I think he’s getting even with me for the vet visit yesterday.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:04:20am

re: #112 GlutenFreeJesus

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I wish he’d pee already. It’s COLD. I think he’s getting even with me for the vet visit yesterday.

Heh, made me think of this…..

Rick and Morty - Where Are My Testicles, Summer?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:06:04am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:10:52am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

I’d never heard of the series or the film, but just the things I observe people doing in my daily out-and-about….yeah, nothing surprises me anymore. Earlier today, I saw some young fellow, about mid-20s I’d say, cheerfully fapping away on the sidewalk across the street from a tram stop. I dunno….maybe passing trams gets him uncontrollably hot?

Uhm…I am at a loss. Whatever trips ya, I suppose.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:11:19am
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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:14:50am
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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:15:45am

Trump vs. the Intelligence Community (reality).

“…A narcissist cannot look too closely (there is usually not much depth there) at himself, because this could possibly reveal, to him, the split between his grandiose persona and the primitive, underdeveloped, and/or empty self which the persona is created to cover up. He has no capacity to cope with this knowledge, so it must be denied: his existence depends on this denial. Of course he does not put it in those terms, but rather as a necessity of defending himself from “big trouble” caused by others, who could use this knowledge against him somehow.”

medium.com

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lizardofid  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:16:20am

re: #116 jaunte

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If we get a Dem in the WH, I hope she’ll come back to Justice.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:21:05am

I work from home most of the time so i dont get out too much. i like it that way.
What a bubble it creates.

Driving 2 hours each way to a job leaves a lot of time to ponder.

Yesterday was about the dog crap incident.
And drive time radio and i notice…stories.
And watch the drivers. The way they drive and what they do.
The risks they take, and for what? wow.

People are just plain selfish.
No regard for anyone else.
Just me me me.

Totally oblivious and inconsiderate of their fellow man and woman.

I consider myself reasonably courteous. it’s way less stressful.

They cant all be republicans, can they?

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:22:43am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:26:48am

re: #119 lizardofid

If we get a Dem in the WH, I hope she’ll come back to Justice.

Wouldn’t be a bad pick for AG. We’re going to need a good one. Delegation skills matter to me here.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:27:41am
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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:29:13am
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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:31:34am

re: #112 GlutenFreeJesus

I wish he’d pee already. It’s COLD. I think he’s getting even with me for the vet visit yesterday.

Scout does that when I take him out. My wife calls it ‘old man walking,’ where he slow walks around the yard and sniffs at every single thing before he decides to go. It’s gotten to the point where I’ll just let him out and go back inside and feed the cats while he roots around looking for the right spot.

And yeah, cold here too this morning. It actually feels like a Winter day today.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:31:36am
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lizardofid  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:32:03am

re: #122 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Wouldn’t be a bad pick for AG. We’re going to need a good one. Delegation skills matter to me here.

At this point, I’m looking forward to law abiding. : )

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:32:18am

It looks like a few people watched the debate:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:37:39am

re: #127 lizardofid

At this point, I’m looking forward to law abiding. : )

True. All goes back to imo how Trump has completely fucked the Executive branch in government.

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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:47:43am

Collins gives Trump the Big Nope…

Collins is a dope, but apparently not that big of a dope.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:52:38am

re: #130 makeitstop

Collins gives Trump the Big Nope…

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Collins is a dope, but apparently not that big of a dope.

This is even more telling than it looks at first glance.

Collins must have an inkling that Trump ain’t getting re-elected and that if he takes the DNI job, he’s out of a job come January next year when there’s a new administration. Why go for that when he has at least a shot at a six-year job in the Senate?

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:52:53am

Can someone explain to me of how Union workers are Trump Country?

yahoo.com

I guess the ONLY thing Trump has in common with the Mid-Western mindset is a disdain for the “other”. It never ceases to amaze me how a charlatan like Trump can bamboozle a significant percentage of people against their own personal economic self-interests over and over again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:55:33am

re: #130 makeitstop

Collins gives Trump the Big Nope…

Collins is a dope, but apparently not that big of a dope.

Collins knows he has much bigger of a future as Senator from Georgia than Trump’s DNI.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:55:49am

re: #132 Florida Panhandler

Can someone explain to me of how Union workers are Trump Country?

yahoo.com

I guess the ONLY thing Trump has in common with the Mid-Western mindset is a disdain for the “other”. It never ceases to amaze me how a charlatan like Trump can bamboozle a significant percentage of people against their own personal economic self-interests over and over again.

“It will never happen to me.”
As you said, their hatred of “the other” blinds them to what people like Trump are actually willing to do if given the opportunity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:56:22am

re: #132 Florida Panhandler

Can someone explain to me of how Union workers are Trump Country?

yahoo.com

I guess the ONLY thing Trump has in common with the Mid-Western mindset is a disdain for the “other”. It never ceases to amaze me how a charlatan like Trump can bamboozle a significant percentage of people against their own personal economic self-interests over and over again.

Unions unfortunately have always had some xenophobia in their ranks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:57:26am

re: #134 Belafon

“It will never happen to me.”
As you said, they’re hatred of “the other” blinds them to what people like Trump are actually willing to do if given the opportunity.

It’s sad because a lot of those UMWA/United Steelworkers guys are grandchildren and great grandchildren of immigrants. My grandmother’s mother just missed the 1924 immigration quota from Eastern Europe but my grand aunt’s family exempting my grand aunt herself are Trumpers.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:57:38am

re: #123 lawhawk

I really enjoyed Parasite.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:58:03am

re: #131 i(m)p(each)sos

This is even more telling than it looks at first glance.

Collins must have an inkling that Trump ain’t getting re-elected and that if he takes the DNI job, he’s out of a job come January next year when there’s a new administration. Why go for that when he has at least a shot at a six-year job in the Senate?

It really is that simple.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:58:54am

re: #137 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I really enjoyed Parasite.

I did too and it’s a much more important film for our times than Gone With the Wind. He named Sunset Boulevard too. Makes sense since he’s delusional like Norma Desmond was.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:14:38am

IMDB has the season three Westworld trailer.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:15:13am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:15:24am

re: #6 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

How deep does this rot go? It wasn’t the media. It was Maguire. I wonder if there’s any legal way Fox can be destroyed as a propaganda network because that’s all it is.

Nope, First Amendment. Though you do have to wonder that now that disinformation has become so pervasive and toxic if liberal democracy can survive without enacting some limitations.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:17:03am

re: #141 lawhawk

And we know Trump isn’t going to do anything to help Afghan women.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:17:44am

re: #143 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We all know he’s doing nothing to help women in the US except for helping them to lose their hard won rights to control what happens to their bodies.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:17:45am

re: #142 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nope, First Amendment. Though you do have to wonder that now that disinformation has become so pervasive and toxic if liberal democracy can survive without enacting some limitations.

Yeah I just don’t know anymore. We live in the golden age of disinformation.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:18:13am

re: #144 lawhawk

We all know he’s doing nothing to help women in the US except for helping them to lose their hard won rights to control what happens to their bodies.

Exactly.

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Semper Fi  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:18:46am

re: #31 Dave In Austin

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One in every room of the White House…it’s possible.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:19:19am

re: #145 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I just don’t know anymore. We live in the golden age of disinformation.

The way to break this is for the GOP to lose enough elections that what people are seeing and hearing doesn’t match what’s happening. You can only be told you should be in power and yet not have it for so long.

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plansbandc  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:19:52am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:21:24am

re: #148 Belafon

The way to break this is for the GOP to lose enough elections that what people are seeing and hearing doesn’t match what’s happening. You can only be told you should be in power and yet not have it for so long.

Perhaps so. It’s just maddening how easily disinformation spreads and it’s going to happen even if FNC were to close up shop tomorrow.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:24:12am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:24:46am

re: #131 i(m)p(each)sos

This is even more telling than it looks at first glance.

Collins must have an inkling that Trump ain’t getting re-elected and that if he takes the DNI job, he’s out of a job come January next year when there’s a new administration. Why go for that when he has at least a shot at a six-year job in the Senate?

And even if Trump is re-elected, nobody except Stephen Miller lasts very long in his Administration.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:25:42am

re: #151 jaunte

Trump’s people are taking over. Kelly and he’s an asshole wasn’t really one of his people. That’s the divide within the Trump WH.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:27:24am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And even if Trump is re-elected, nobody except Stephen Miller lasts very long in his Administration.

Miller just lingers as others fade. He appears to be perfectly content to have the role he does and I think that’s what makes him appealing to Trump.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:28:59am
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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:29:26am

re: #153 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The Confirmation Bias Department will wind up blinding itself. But they want to blind us first.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:29:32am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:31:34am

I let myself get a little worried about Trump’s polling, but he is back to being about 9 points underwater today. I think the temporary ups and downs are just statistical noise and don’t change the reality that the majority of Americans don’t like him. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:31:48am

re: #156 jaunte

The Confirmation Bias Department will wind up blinding itself. But they want to blind us first.

Oh absolutely. Just saying that as this goes on, we’re seeing more and more Trump true believers and sycophants end up with positions. I don’t think there’s many people left that are where they are because they wanted to give the Trump WH a veneer of respectability.*

*Not saying that tehy did but that’s why Kelly, Mattis, Tillerson, were there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:32:39am

re: #158 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I let myself get a little worried about Trump’s polling, but he is back to being about 9 points underwater today. I think the temporary ups and downs are just statistical noise and don’t change the reality that the majority of Americans don’t like him. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

I remain fairly bullish on beating him. However, I want to deal a blow to the conditions that made him possible too.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:33:11am

re: #130 makeitstop

Collins gives Trump the Big Nope…

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Collins is a dope, but apparently not that big of a dope.

of course he’d have to be nuts but another take -
president asks you to serve your country and you say no

a kludgy way of getting collins out of the race?

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:33:46am

As Trump’s wealthy buddies buy up distressed farms, federal farm aid becomes just another river of tribute that will run back to his own pockets.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:34:35am

re: #141 lawhawk

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i understand the taliban promised to be good…

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:34:40am

re: #90 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I will never understand why people are so taken in by traveling on a Petri Dish of the Seas. This looks more realistic than the brochure pics you always see. And some of these new ships are 14 stories tall having thousands of passengers (and thousands of staff).

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As a cruising veteran, I have to say that this is pretty much nonsense.

Probably planted by land-based tour groups. //

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sagehen  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:37:15am

re: #117 lawhawk

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Bots at least have a solid motive for such activity. The sooner lots of people die, the easier it will be for them to take over.

Seven Nation Army - Multi movies/tv shows

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:38:29am
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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:40:16am

re: #165 sagehen

I am ready to accept my toaster overlords.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:40:32am

re: #158 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I let myself get a little worried about Trump’s polling, but he is back to being about 9 points underwater today. I think the temporary ups and downs are just statistical noise and don’t change the reality that the majority of Americans don’t like him. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

trumps-high-approval-ratings-may-be-misleading

In the wake of Mr Trump’s acquittal in the Senate, pollsters suspect that such a bias could be affecting polls. Courtney Kennedy, the director for survey research at the Pew Research Center, says that there is a ‘strong possibility’ that the recent uptick in Mr Trump’s ratings has a wave of optimistic Republicans as its source. She says that outlets can control this problem by adjusting their data to have the correct shares of Democratic- and Republican-leaning voters, but the idea is relatively new and few pollsters have data good enough to perform such corrections.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:41:09am

re: #166 Belafon

Trump rallies remain some of the most surreal shit I’ve ever seen anywhere. As I said, I’m almost tempted to crash one because I’d be afraid for my safety if I muttered what I thought about him and the whole show.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:42:28am
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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:44:53am

re: #165 sagehen

Bots at least have a solid motive for such activity. The sooner lots of people die, the easier it will be for them to take over.

I always go back to this version of Seven Nation Army, ‘cuz this cat is fonky.

Ben L’Oncle Soul - SevenNationArmy live

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:47:42am

re: #170 Dr. Matt

Pete Hegseth: The Real ‘Agents of Russia’ Are Democrats and Media Reporting on Election Interference

Foxpravda is guarding the feelings of Dear Leader.

OFFS just shut the fuck up guy who doesn’t believe in washing his hands because he doesnt’ think germs are real.

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sagehen  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:49:02am

re: #142 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nope, First Amendment. Though you do have to wonder that now that disinformation has become so pervasive and toxic if liberal democracy can survive without enacting some limitations.

we can’t forbid it; but maybe we can demand it be slapped with labels, akin to:

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:49:25am

re: #171 makeitstop

Nice.

I’m rather partial to this particular White Stripes video, mostly because I commuted through the PATH station for more time than I care to admit.

The White Stripes-Hardest Button To Button

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:51:13am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:51:50am

re: #175 lawhawk

Some shit you just can’t make up.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:53:06am

re: #175 lawhawk

Conservative voters will literally vote for criminals and Nazis just as long as they have an ‘R’ after their name and they say bad things about the Left.

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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:54:15am

re: #174 lawhawk

Nice.

I’m rather partial to this particular White Stripes video, mostly because I commuted through the PATH station for more time than I care to admit.

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Video

I would have hated to wrangle all those drum kits, but I’d definitely sign up for a couple of those old Fender Deluxes. :)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:55:56am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

Conservative voters will literally vote for criminals and Nazis just as long as they have an ‘R’ after their name and they say bad things about the Left.

Only way Omar is gone is if she loses her primary (don’t know if she has a challenger) but that kook wouldn’t even ebat her if she had a clean record.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:56:24am

re: #176 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Some shit you just can’t make up.

The GOP often has crazy, racist or criminal candidates in extremely blue districts since no-one credible wants to run when they have zero chance of winning.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:58:53am

re: #173 sagehen

we can’t forbid it; but maybe we can demand it be slapped with labels, akin to:

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And the problem, to which I have no solution, is that when in power the GOP would use that authority to label mainstream media “fake news”.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:59:04am

re: #180 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The GOP often has crazy, racist or criminal candidates in extremely blue districts since no-one credible wants to run when they have zero chance of winning.

It’s that she may have fled the state. But yeah that’s why we need to look at who’s running.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:01:19am

I missed the last thread, but I just want to say that Warren is my preference as well, and I hope she does well enough in the next few contests so that she is still in the running when I get to vote in May.

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danarchy  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:02:17am

re: #179 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Only way Omar is gone is if she loses her primary (don’t know if she has a challenger) but that kook wouldn’t even ebat her if she had a clean record.

According to Ballotpedia she has 3 Dem primary challengers, not sure how serious any of them are.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:03:13am

re: #183 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I will admit that I like her too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:03:36am

re: #184 danarchy

According to Ballotpedia she has 3 Dem primary challengers, not sure how serious any of them are.

I think he meant for a Republican to win that district.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:04:42am

re: #186 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think he meant for a Republican to win that district.

The original comment said primary, which would mean Democratic challengers.

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danarchy  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:04:51am

re: #186 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think he meant for a Republican to win that district.

meant to respond to your 179, have corrected it.

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BigPapa  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:05:58am

re: #183 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I missed the last thread, but I just want to say that Warren is my preference as well, and I hope she does well enough in the next few contests so that she is still in the running when I get to vote in May.

Warren’s been my steady #2 for some time.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:07:04am

re: #188 danarchy

meant to respond to your 179, have corrected it.

AH. All good. But yeah I don’t know who’s challenging her. I just looked at Ballotpedia (great reference) btw for my CD. I don’t know who any of the Republicans are that are running. My freshman Dem will likely be favored but nothing’s guaranteed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:08:26am

re: #128 Belafon

It looks like a few people watched the debate:

[Brian Stelter ✔ @brianstelter
HUGE #’s for the #DemDebate last night. Looks like 19.7 million on NBC and MSNBC combined. Final # may fluctuate a bit, but it’s a new record high for a Dem debate, beating last June’s.]

I am not sure if that is good or bad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:08:39am

re: #189 BigPapa

Warren’s been my steady #2 for some time.

I’m Biden as I said last night but Warren hasn’t completely lost me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:10:28am

re: #137 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I really enjoyed Parasite.

A Trump-hating girl friend refuses to see it because she doesn’t like subtitled movies. My sister hated the movie because she thought it was going to be a comedy but it changed mid-film into something far darker; and my sister wants upbeat films. I thought it was terrific.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:13:15am

re: #191 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am not sure if that is good or bad.

It’s good. A lot of people are still undecided. I’ve only decided on Biden within the last couple days. I liked what I saw at the Town Hall last night. I’m not against Warren, Klobuchar, or Pete. But I like Biden the most at this point. I kept on going back to the that that the most ideologically moderate Dem I’ve ever voted for in an gubernatorial race here is delivering some of the most progressive legislation we’ve had in Virginia. That said, I understand why each other candidate has their appeal even Bernie who I immensely dislike and Bloomberg who I feel is too corporate though Saghen did make a nice point explaining his NYC tax policy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:13:53am

re: #141 lawhawk

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No one wins in Afghanistan as a meddling foreign power. It just takes them a varying amount of time, lives, and money to learn that.

Land war in Asia, blah blah blah.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:15:42am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

A Trump-hating girl friend refuses to see it because she doesn’t like subtitled movies. My sister hated the movie because she thought it was going to be a comedy but it changed mid-film into something far darker; and my sister wants upbeat films. I thought it was terrific.

You really miss a lot if you skip out on a movie because it’s subtitled IMO. I’d much rather watch a subtitled foreign movie than a dubbed one. It was darkly funny. The weird thing is that Trump brought up Gone with the Wind in Colorado of all places and Sunset Boulevard which is about a delusional has been movie star. I’m seeing more and more foreign movies and tv shows. I saw an Israeli movie yesterday in the theater and I’m watching a Belorussian one now about occupied life during WWII.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:17:14am

re: #191 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am not sure if that is good or bad.

Perspective:

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:17:51am

re: #80 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why would they call it Novel? If SARS-CoV-2 is a (the?) cause of COVID-19 does that mean Novel = Cause? To me, Novel means variant…but it does not seem that is the case.

Doesn’t Novel just mean new? So it’s a new disease but from the same family as SARS and MERS.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:19:25am

re: #192 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m Biden as I said last night but Warren hasn’t completely lost me.

I am really anybody but Bernie. I have a preference, of course, but fuck a bunch of bernie, that is nose holding that would likely result in oxygen deprivety (if that is a word).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:20:01am

re: #191 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am not sure if that is good or bad.

It’s good; people are energized to defeat Trump, so they are interested in the race.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:21:22am

re: #200 NO SMOCKING GUN!

re: #197 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

re: #194 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This is why I asked…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:22:11am

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am really anybody but Bernie. I have a preference, of course, but fuck a bunch of bernie, that is nose holding that would likely result in oxygen deprivety (if that is a word).

What finally sold me on Biden was seeing how things have been working in Richmond since the Dems gained both Houses. I want the candidate that I feel will get us back the Senate and increase our House numbers. I feel that person is Biden at this point. Ideologically I probably lean closer to Warren.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:22:28am

re: #198 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t Novel just mean new? So it’s a new disease but from the same family as SARS and MERS.

I would agree with that but that does not appear to be how they used it. But hey, I’m not a virologist nor do i play one anywhere.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:24:07am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is why I asked…

I have no idea. I just hate that some people (not you) are throwing in the towel in February.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:25:04am

re: #198 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t Novel just mean new? So it’s a new disease but from the same family as SARS and MERS.

Yes, Novel means New and this why it was used in this context.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:28:00am

re: #204 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And we have not gone through Super Tuesday yet. Dang. This is what upsets me about the primary season. People give up too early. There is still a very good chance that there will be some moment that DT will explode and one of the Democratic challengers will have a great answer.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:29:38am

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I am really anybody but Bernie. I have a preference, of course, but fuck a bunch of bernie, that is nose holding that would likely result in oxygen deprivety (if that is a word).

Deprivation. And I agree (but will buy a clothespin and oxygen tank, if needed).

(Supreme Court)

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BigPapa  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:31:55am

re: #192 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m Biden as I said last night but Warren hasn’t completely lost me.

I’m ever KHive then sorta fell into Biden as #1, with Warren being #2 pretty solid all along.

Klobuchar is locking down the 3 spot.

The 37 candidates didn’t help us nor do caucuses. Ready for it to be over so we can focus on Agent Orange and his band of Banana Republicans.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:41:29am

So, Alberta Canada is trending because there is some separatist bullshit afoot (my some far right conservative, of course) as both Alberta and Ontario are fucking with their Canadian healthcare and unions (for medical and teachers).

I have to wonder if it is being amplified by Russia.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:41:51am

re: #208 BigPapa

I’m ever KHive then sorta fell into Biden as #1, with Warren being #2 pretty solid all along.

Klobuchar is locking down the 3 spot.

The 37 candidates didn’t help us nor do caucuses. Ready for it to be over so we can focus on Agent Orange and his band of Banana Republicans.

Ditto.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:42:36am

re: #206 PhillyPretzel

And we have not gone through Super Tuesday yet. Dang. This is what upsets me about the primary season. People give up too early. There is still a very good chance that there will be some moment that DT will explode and one of the Democratic challengers will have a great answer.

Exactly. There’s been too many damn obituaries and nominating speeches written after Iowa and New Hampshire. It’s absurd.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:47:06am

re: #209 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So, Alberta Canada is trending because there is some separatist bullshit afoot (my some far right conservative, of course) as both Alberta and Ontario are fucking with their Canadian healthcare and unions (for medical and teachers).

I have to wonder if it is being amplified by Russia.

I bet they call themselves “patriots” as well, right?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 8:55:49am

re: #131 i(m)p(each)sos

This is even more telling than it looks at first glance.

Collins must have an inkling that Trump ain’t getting re-elected and that if he takes the DNI job, he’s out of a job come January next year when there’s a new administration. Why go for that when he has at least a shot at a six-year job in the Senate?

Interestingly, Czech PM Andrej Babiš recently decided that he’s not even gonna bother meeting the 2% NATO defense spending commitment - after promising that the Czech Republic would do so at the 2017 NATO summit.

The story floating around behind Babiš’ change of mind is that Babiš has privately told his government colleagues that he strongly believes Trump’s not gonna get re-elected and that a new POTUS, whomever that may be, will most likely drop the whole matter and with Trump gone, Babiš reckons that the Czech Republic has nothing to really worry about.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:04:46am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is why I asked…

I would love to know his voting habits.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:07:02am

Alberta only has two major cities and a limited economy. It’s also completely landlocked.They would never survive on their own. It’s basically the Canadian Texas (i.e. one of the most conservative parts of this country) so this talk shouldn’t come as a surprise.

And yes, I suspect Russia might be involved.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:07:05am

So they arrested that Mom from Idaho, in Hawaii, whose kids have been missing for months now.

Weirdest story. Her ex died under mysterious circumstances. Her new hubby’s ex died under mysterious circumstances. The kids disappeared and the mom and her new hubby took off to Hawaii.

yahoo.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:07:48am

re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So they arrested that Mom from Idaho, in Hawaii, whose kids have been missing for months now.

Weirdest story. Her ex died under mysterious circumstances. Her new hubby’s ex died under mysterious circumstances. The kids disappeared and the mom and her new hubby took off to Hawaii.

yahoo.com

Can’t wait for the Netflix special on this one.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:09:23am

re: #196 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m watching a Belorussian one now about occupied life during WWII.

Is it Come and See (Иди и смотри)?

If it is, you’re in for one helluva ride. It’s considered one of the most important anti-war films ever made and one of the greatest WWII films of all time. It’s all one of the most brutal films I’ve ever seen - there are parts of it that make Schindler’s List look like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:11:24am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

Is it Come and See (Иди и смотри)?

If it is, you’re in for one helluva ride. It’s considered one of the most important anti-war films ever made and one of the greatest WWII films of all time. It’s all one of the most brutal films I’ve ever seen - there are parts of it that make Schindler’s List look like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

Damnnnn.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:13:23am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

Is it Come and See (Иди и смотри)?

If it is, you’re in for one helluva ride. It’s considered one of the most important anti-war films ever made and one of the greatest WWII films of all time. It’s all one of the most brutal films I’ve ever seen - there are parts of it that make Schindler’s List look like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

Magnificent film, and I will never watch it again. (Not that there’s any need — one viewing will burn it into your brain).

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:14:23am

re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So they arrested that Mom from Idaho, in Hawaii, whose kids have been missing for months now.

Weirdest story. Her ex died under mysterious circumstances. Her new hubby’s ex died under mysterious circumstances. The kids disappeared and the mom and her new hubby took off to Hawaii.

yahoo.com

Wow. I saw that on Coffee and Crime Time, a YouTube series. That’s a weird damn story.

Coffee and Crime Time: Where are Tylee and JJ? Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Case

That Chapter also covered it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:15:11am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

Is it Come and See (Иди и смотри)?

If it is, you’re in for one helluva ride. It’s considered one of the most important anti-war films ever made and one of the greatest WWII films of all time. It’s all one of the most brutal films I’ve ever seen - there are parts of it that make Schindler’s List look like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

No, it’s called Okhota na gaulyaytera (Hunting the Gauleitner.) It’s a miniseries. My only complaint is that the German spoken is dubbed into Belorussian and then subtitled in English. You can find it on Prime. But yeah this is pretty brutal so far. It doesn’t shy away from the fact that there were people in the USSR that collaborated with the Nazis.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:15:52am

re: #220 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Magnificent film, and I will never watch it again. (Not that there’s any need — one viewing will burn it into your brain).

I’ve often said that Come and See is one of those truly great films you’ll never want to see ever again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:16:25am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

Wow. I saw that on Coffee and Crime Time, a YouTube series. That’s a weird damn story.

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That Chapter also covered it.

That Chapter is another one I like. I just watched Mike’s latest one. I have to say. He’s really good at crime stories. If there’s a positive about social media like YouTube, it’s that it does allow people like him that have a particular talent to reach a lot of people.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:17:07am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t wait for the Netflix special on this one.

Or joins the tRump administration.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:17:16am

re: #222 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

No, it’s called Okhota na gaulyaytera (Hunting the Gauleitner.) It’s a miniseries. My only complaint is that the German spoken is dubbed into Belorussian and then subtitled in English. You can find it on Prime. But yeah this is pretty brutal so far. It doesn’t shy away from the fact that there were people in the USSR that collaborated with the Nazis.

I’ll have to look for that.

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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:20:11am

re: #192 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m Biden as I said last night but Warren hasn’t completely lost me.

I could vote for either. Joe, because he’s pretty steady and Trump wouldn’t rattle him; Warren, because after she took the bark off Bloomberg the other night I’m pretty sure she’d be able to rattle Trump pretty good.

I’m pretty much good with anybody but Bernie (potential Mondale-scale whupping in store) and Pete (not a big enough personality, Trump would eat his lunch).

Even Bloomberg, if it came to that. He’d get under Trump’s skin for sure, and we’ll need that from whoever emerges.

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William Lewis  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:20:26am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t wait for the Netflix special on this one.

Netflix or Lifetime?

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William Lewis  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:22:03am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

Is it Come and See (Иди и смотри)?

If it is, you’re in for one helluva ride. It’s considered one of the most important anti-war films ever made and one of the greatest WWII films of all time. It’s all one of the most brutal films I’ve ever seen - there are parts of it that make Schindler’s List look like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

I’ve heard that before and considering it took multiple tries to watch SL, I have not attempted to watch it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:22:11am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

I’ll have to look for that.

It’s fascinating. I’m four eps in. I’m also finally binging on the Wire too. There’s a lot of good escapes from Trumpism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:22:48am

re: #229 William Lewis

I’ve heard that before and considering it took multiple tries to watch SL, I have not attempted to watch it.

SL made me cry. I haven’t watched it though since I have visited Auschwitz and the site of Schindler’s factory in Poland though.

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William Lewis  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:23:00am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

I’ve often said that Come and See is one of those truly great films you’ll never want to see ever again.

Sounds a lot like Grave of the Fireflies in that respect.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:23:36am

re: #228 William Lewis

Netflix or Lifetime?

Investigation Discovery or whatever it’s called now.

I forgot to mention… Her brother (who they think killed her ex) also died under mysterious circumstances.

And they’re part of some Uber Christian sect.

Weird doesn’t begin to cover it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:23:37am

re: #227 makeitstop

I could vote for either. Joe, because he’s pretty steady and Trump wouldn’t rattle him; Warren, because after she took the bark off Bloomberg the other night I’m pretty sure she’d be able to rattle Trump pretty good.

I’m pretty much good with anybody but Bernie (potential Mondale-scale whupping in store) and Pete (not a big enough personality, Trump would eat his lunch).

Even Bloomberg, if it came to that. He’d get under Trump’s skin for sure, and we’ll need that from whoever emerges.

Yeah I don’t think liking Biden and Warren is as crazy as people may think. I really like Biden’s knowledge especially FP. And I know he wouldn’t take any shit the minute Trump would lie about Obama’s record.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:23:39am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:28:56am
From the day they left the hospital, the one-year risk of at least one rehospitalization for any reason in Medicare beneficiaries who suffered a heart attack like Sanders’ was about 50 percent (the baseline annual risk among his age cohort is more like 1 in 6). Again, by virtue of four incident-free months on the trail, that number is now lower for Sanders. But his chance of another hospitalization between now and November alone likely remains between 30-35 percent. While the daily risk is low, around 0.17 percent, we have more than 250 days to go until Election Day. The risks add up.

If he gets the nom and then has a heart attack and trump wins and I become an alcoholic/drug addict…

From Slate

What Are the Chances Sanders Has Another Heart Attack Before November?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:31:03am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all need to read this. Seriously.

I Spoke Out Against Sexual Harassment at Uber. The Aftermath Was More Terrifying Than Anything I Faced Before

Holy shit. That’s something else. Wow.

Thanks for sharing

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:31:16am

re: #236 I Would Prefer Not To

If he gets the nom and then has a heart attack and trump wins and I become an alcoholic/drug addict…

From Slate

What Are the Chances Sanders Has Another Heart Attack Before November?

The double standards on it infuriate me. I remember HRC getting sick meant she was dying but Bernie who who will be older than HRC would have been for her entire presidency and had a much more severe health related incident means nothing. I know I said I’m for Biden. I am but I would hope that Biden would have a strong VP and cabinet that he could delegate a lot to. I don’t trust Bernie at delegation at all. Bernie’s not worth the risk and I hope he keeps on getting hounded about how untransparent he’s been.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:31:20am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Hmm. That was very scary. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that type of treatment.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:31:36am

re: #232 William Lewis

Sounds a lot like Grave of the Fireflies in that respect.

It’s in that same category - I’ve seen Grave of the Fireflies reduce even the most hardened cynics to a blubbering mass by the end of that film. It’s one of those rare animated films that convey the raw emotional power of storytelling better than the vast majority of live-action films.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:36:58am

re: #239 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. That was very scary. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that type of treatment.

Agreed. Kudos to that woman for being so defiant.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:37:05am

re: #234 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I don’t think liking Biden and Warren is as crazy as people may think. I really like Biden’s knowledge especially FP. And I know he wouldn’t take any shit the minute Trump would lie about Obama’s record.

Biden as POTUS because we need some kind of evenness returning to government (tho he’s too Work with Republicans for me, he’s known to our allies and we need Department of State building diplomacy, BADLY) and Warren as his Veep attack dog.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:39:55am

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. Kudos to that woman for being so defiant.

She wasn’t defiant. She reported what happened to her.

Who would have expected this? It was fucking black ops bullshit against a woman who dared to speak out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:39:59am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:41:01am

re: #243 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She wasn’t defiant. She reported what happened to her.

Who would have expected this? It was fucking black ops bullshit against a woman who dared to speak out.

I meant defiant by speaking openly in this follow up piece about everything that happened to her after she spoke out instead of shutting the fuck up like a lot of people were wanting her to.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:41:14am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:41:24am

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Biden as POTUS because we need some kind of evenness returning to government (tho he’s too Work with Republicans for me, he’s known to our allies and we need Department of State building diplomacy, BADLY) and Warren as his Veep attack dog.

I think it has to be one or the other with someone younger. But yes, Biden has the ability to really fix a lot of our relationships that have been hurt by Trump. Warren I love for her tenacity and zeal for domestic reform that I wish Biden had more of though I think he would sign most things that a Democratic House and Senate would pass. As I said, look at the Virginia model here.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:42:22am

re: #246 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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He never does. He just sits on his orange ass and expects FNC to praise him. It’s disgusting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:43:07am

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Biden as POTUS because we need some kind of evenness returning to government (tho he’s too Work with Republicans for me, he’s known to our allies and we need Department of State building diplomacy, BADLY) and Warren as his Veep attack dog.

Warren would be stronger as a department head Cabinet member than VP IMO.

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William Lewis  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:43:29am

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Biden as POTUS because we need some kind of evenness returning to government (tho he’s too Work with Republicans for me, he’s known to our allies and we need Department of State building diplomacy, BADLY) and Warren as his Veep attack dog.

Biden as president but without the Senate = 4 years of nothing accomplished. He’ll be too busy “working with” the allegedly reasonable Republicans to get anything passed. That was Obama’s biggest weakness as well. This is why the “never Trumpers” like Biden - he won’t have the same coat tails and he won’t accomplish anything that threatens their tax cuts. Even if he does get the senate for 2 years (the most he’ll get) I’d bet little of consequence and even less to repair the previous 4 years will get passed.

We need the senate and we need anger to begin repairing the damage done.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:43:50am

I’d pair Biden with Harris. I still think she could be POTUS someday and I think she’s great on a lot of issues and would be a great attack dog and foil for Pence. Likewise, I like Castro for Warren. Don’t know who I’d pair with Pete or Amy but people with more liberal reputations.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:45:15am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

I’ve often said that Come and See is one of those truly great films you’ll never want to see ever again.

Like Requiem for a Dream.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:45:25am

re: #250 William Lewis

Biden as president but without the Senate = 4 years of nothing accomplished. He’ll be too busy “working with” the allegedly reasonable Republicans to get anything passed. That was Obama’s biggest weakness as well. This is why the “never Trumpers” like Biden - he won’t have the same coat tails and he won’t accomplish anything that threatens their tax cuts. Even if he does get the senate for 2 years (the most he’ll get) I’d bet little of consequence and even less to repair the previous 4 years will get passed.

We need the senate and we need anger to begin repairing the damage done.

I really think a lot of people read way too much into him talking about that. I read that as him contrasting how hyper-partisan Trump is and how Biden wouldn’t just be the President of the Democrats but the President of all Americans. I understand the criticism and I definitely think he comes off naive when he talks about Congressional Republicans but I think he’s the best choice for a big knockout punch.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:46:02am

re: #250 William Lewis

Biden as president but without the Senate = 4 years of nothing accomplished. He’ll be too busy “working with” the allegedly reasonable Republicans to get anything passed. That was Obama’s biggest weakness as well. This is why the “never Trumpers” like Biden - he won’t have the same coat tails and he won’t accomplish anything that threatens their tax cuts. Even if he does get the senate for 2 years (the most he’ll get) I’d bet little of consequence and even less to repair the previous 4 years will get passed.

We need the senate and we need anger to begin repairing the damage done.

I completely disagree about coattails. Biden’s coattails will be far longer than Bernie’s ever could be.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:46:18am

re: #232 William Lewis

Sounds a lot like Grave of the Fireflies in that respect.

That was the movie I thought of.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:46:37am

re: #251 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’d pair Biden with Harris. I still think she could be POTUS someday and I think she’s great on a lot of issues and would be a great attack dog and foil for Pence. Likewise, I like Castro for Warren. Don’t know who I’d pair with Pete or Amy but people with more liberal reputations.

Harris for AG. We need her in that role. That d department needs fixing, too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:47:00am

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

Warren would be stronger as a department head Cabinet member than VP IMO.

Treasury maybe. And she has experience running a government agency too. I like Warren to either stay in the Senate and shepherd legislation or to be in the cabinet if she’s not the nominee. I think Biden would be wise to go with someone younger than her for his running mate. I really likewise like Castro a lot for her since it helps with her executive experience deficits.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:47:38am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I completely disagree about coattails. Biden’s coattails will be far longer than Bernie’s ever could be.

Agreed. Everyone, but Bernie and Bloomberg are team players and will help most of the ticket.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:48:17am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I completely disagree about coattails. Biden’s coattails will be far longer than Bernie’s ever could be.

Biden I will add even with the shit Trump’s done to him still polls really well in swing states. I know it’s unorthodox but maybe the best thing would be for one term of Biden and then 2024 to have a nice discussion among a much more younger crowd in 2024. I think Biden would bring a lot of talent to his administration.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:48:57am

re: #258 I Would Prefer Not To

Agreed. Everyone, but Bernie and Bloomberg are team players and will help most of the ticket.

Absolutely. Bernie’s a terrible teamplayer. I do think Bloomberg would be a teamplayer though. I just don’t want him to be the nominee.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:50:27am

re: #256 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Harris for AG. We need her in that role. That d department needs fixing, too.

There’s gonna be a lot of great candidates for AG. I just don’t like the idea of two seventy year olds on the ticket. I don’t mind Harris being considered for AG though. I think a lot of these men and women could be VP, a cabinet role in their issue of speciality, or staying in the Senate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:50:54am

Bernie is only a team player when his team his winning.

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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:51:02am

re: #233 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Investigation Discovery or whatever it’s called now.

My wife calls it the ‘Killing People Channel.’

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Dr. Matt  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:51:03am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all need to read this. Seriously.

I Spoke Out Against Sexual Harassment at Uber. The Aftermath Was More Terrifying Than Anything I Faced Before

Whoa. That’s insane.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:51:26am

As hamfisted as Biden was about it, I would hope Abrams would consider the VP if asked, in part because there are other roles for Harris, either as AG or remaining Senator.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:51:30am

re: #261 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s gonna be a lot of great candidates for AG. I just don’t like the idea of two seventy year olds on the ticket. I don’t mind Harris being considered for AG though. I think a lot of these men and women could be VP, a cabinet role in their issue of speciality, or staying in the Senate.

Yeah, Harris would probably do a good job of picking up all the pieces Barr will leave behind.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:52:00am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Unless you know that particular person, I’d call bullshit in that. I’m sure plenty of bots would love to convince people to just stay him this Election Day.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:52:08am

re: #266 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, Harris would probably do a good job of picking up all the pieces Barr will leave behind.

She’s been a DA and a state AG. She definitely understands how justice departments should be run.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:53:26am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:53:41am

Also have to put this out there. The VP likely won’t be a former candidate. Someone who we will know but a lot of the public won’t know too much about.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:54:34am

re: #270 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Also have to put this out there. The VP likely won’t be a former candidate. Someone who we will know but a lot of the public won’t know too much about.

Stacey Abrams?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:54:46am

re: #269 lawhawk

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Yeah I really don’t like Bloomberg as the nominee but he does know why Trump is a fuck up. My problem with Bernie is he treats Trump like Generic Greedy Republican. Trump is that but he’s worse than that too.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:55:41am

re: #267 Shropshire Slasher

Unless you know that particular person, I’d call bullshit in that. I’m sure plenty of bots would love to convince people to just stay him this Election Day.

We know who she is. But the doctor definitely seems a bit strange. He might not vote at all, or he could be a never-Trumper who was looking for an excuse to not vote.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:56:43am

re: #271 Eclectic Cyborg

Stacey Abrams?

Yeah she fits that bill perfectly. She also has experience working with a crazed right wing Republican party as the Dem party leader in the Georgia legislature. I like Harris or Stacey for Joe. I like Castro for Warren. I think Warren needs a younger man of color with a liberal but as liberal as she is reputation. We need people that will get out hte vote in the South and Southwest.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:57:49am

re: #273 Belafon

I’m not interested in anyone’s opinion on politics if they don’t vote. Thank you for your reply.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:58:37am
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ericblair  Feb 21, 2020 • 9:58:53am

What the fuck.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:00:24am

re: #277 ericblair

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What the fuck.

We have to stop punishing urban areas for being where most of where people live. I get rural voters sometimes feel underrepresented but a lot of shit results in them being in fact over represented.

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sagehen  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:00:37am

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

Warren would be stronger as a department head Cabinet member than VP IMO.

Do IRS and SEC report to Treasury? That’d be a good place for her.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:01:48am

I thought of a fix for the caucus issue and Iowa going first. The Democrats should declare that they will only do primaries and they will occur on the days the federal candidates for the House are selected. Texas’ primary is not just for president. It’s also for all of the other races.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:02:42am

re: #279 sagehen

Do IRS and SEC report to Treasury? That’d be a good place for her.

SEC is independent IIRC. IRS is part of Treasury.

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sagehen  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:05:10am

re: #260 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Absolutely. Bernie’s a terrible teamplayer. I do think Bloomberg would be a teamplayer though. I just don’t want him to be the nominee.

Bloomberg would definitely be a team player. He hates Trump. He loathes Trump. If he doesn’t get the nomination, his entire campaign team/staff/budget will magically transform into a Super-PAC supporting whoever the D’s nominate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:06:11am

. re: #282 sagehen

Bloomberg would definitely be a team player. He hates Trump. He loathes Trump. If he doesn’t get the nomination, his entire campaign team/staff/budget will magically transform into a Super-PAC supporting whoever the D’s nominate.

Yeah I agree. I don’t want him to be top dog but as an ally against Trump, absolutely.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:08:19am

re: #282 sagehen

Bloomberg would definitely be a team player. He hates Trump. He loathes Trump. If he doesn’t get the nomination, his entire campaign team/staff/budget will magically transform into a Super-PAC supporting whoever the D’s nominate.

I hope you are right about that.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:11:24am

re: #282 sagehen

I remember hearing that I think on CNN. One of the places where I take my breaks at work had it on their TV.

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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:12:09am

re: #284 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope you are right about that.

He’s already announced that his entire campaign staff would be employed for the duration, whether or not he’s the nominee.

Like Sagehen said, there’s mucho bad blood between Bloomberg and Trump. Mike is ready to spend big money to bring Trump down, and his staff is on point. They would be a great asset to whoever gets the nom.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:12:42am

re: #285 PhillyPretzel

I remember hearing that I think on CNN. One of the places where I take my breaks at work had it on their TV.

I’ve seen it too. I trust Bloomberg to be a better team player than Bernie. I’m ideologically more closer to Bernie’s platform but the two couldn’t be more different when it comes to big picture politics.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:13:06am

re: #286 makeitstop

He’s already announced that his entire campaign staff would be employed for the duration, whether or not he’s the nominee.

Like Sagehen said, there’s mucho bad blood between Bloomberg and Trump. Mike is ready to spend big money to bring Trump down, and his staff is on point. They would be a great asset to whoever gets the nom.

This.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:20:02am

Timon of Athens, Donnie of Queens

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:28:44am

For some good news; a full employment economy is creating job opportunities for the disabled, who are entering the workforce in a big way.vox.com

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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:33:57am

Like I was saying - Bloomberg’s boys are not into playing nice. This is great.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:36:12am

re: #291 makeitstop

Sometimes it is good to have a lot of money. :)

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:36:17am

re: #291 makeitstop

Like I was saying - Bloomberg’s boys are not into playing nice. This is great.

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“Donald tRump cheats on his wives” should have been another statement on that marquee.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:37:58am

re: #290 NO SMOCKING GUN!

While true, it’s still a struggle for disabled people to find work that will support them financially.

Here in GA we have a cool program put together by the late Tommy Nobis, called Nobis Works. My son went through it after high school. He learned a lot and is now employed outside the program by his own skills in landing a job.

But, while in the program, he made minimum wage. He worked for Kroger through them and it was hard for him to get Kroger to see beyond his autism. That’s why he quit and went out on his own. He’s making almost double minimum wage, but it’s still not enough to survive on his own, even with roommates.

Of course this is true for everyone right now, wages have not kept up with housing costs and other expenses. We’re still lagging way behind on helping everyone get some equal footing in this country.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:39:42am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

While true, it’s still a struggle for disabled people to find work that will support them financially.

Here in GA we have a cool program put together by the late Tommy Nobis, called Nobis Works. My son went through it after high school. He learned a lot and is now employed outside the program by his own skills in landing a job.

But, while in the program, he made minimum wage. He worked for Kroger through them and it was hard for him to get Kroger to see beyond his autism. That’s why he quit and went out on his own. He’s making almost double minimum wage, but it’s still not enough to survive on his own, even with roommates.

Of course this is true for everyone right now, wages have not kept up with housing costs and other expenses. We’re still lagging way behind on helping everyone get some equal footing in this country.

That’s definitely part of what I’ve struggled with. People with disabilities and our unique needs get forgotten in the politics of absolutism.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:41:13am

Larry Tesler, the guy who invented cut/copy/paste, died: bbc.com. I thought this was funny:

One of Mr Tesler’s firmest beliefs was that computer systems should stop using “modes”, which were common in software design at the time.

Modes allow users to switch between functions on software and apps but make computers both time-consuming and complicated.

So strong was this belief that Mr Tesler’s website was called “nomodes.com”, his Twitter handle was “@nomodes”, and even his car’s registration plate was “No Modes”.

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SerialUpDinger  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:44:53am

Tom Petty’s Biographer on the Story He Didn’t Tell
Something not political. Well written enough that I had to go get a cup of coffee even though I usually do not partake until the afternoon break…..

Tom Petty’s Biographer on the Story He Didn’t Tell
Author Warren Zanes shares a tale of loss, memory, and the search for the perfect cup of coffee.
But let me first say this about coffee: When it’s time to conduct an interview, I always show up with a large cup. Because the last thing you want when you’re asking questions about a person’s life and work is to sit across from that person struggling to stay awake. Do that, and you’ve lost them. At the same time, you don’t want too much coffee. Starbucks sells some overly large cups of coffee.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:49:00am

re: #295 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My son has at least 3 close friends on the spectrum and none of them are currently employed. Two get disability and one is lucky enough to have a very supportive and pretty well off family. Two also have bipolar disorder and anxiety/depression disorders and one has a seizure disorder that is controlled with medication. My son doesn’t have those particular struggles(except the anxiety disorder part, which is tough enough) but he’s still having trouble finding a good job that pays enough. He works at a warehouse for a dept store chain right now, I’m hoping they value his work ethic and persistence when it comes time for raises.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:52:39am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:53:27am

My old neighbor in Lubbock has advised me of a police raid in the old ‘hood this morning. According to her, about a dozen ninja-suited SWAT types rode into the front yard of a nearby house on a “tank” (presumably LPD’s surplus MRAP) and immediately kicked the front door in. They were armed with the usual black rifles, shotguns, and what looked like a belt-fed machine gun and a .50 cal rifle. (The neighbor doesn’t know armored vehicles but she does know guns.) About 20 other cops had quietly moved into the alley and the neighboring yards a little earlier. They were accompanied by some tough-looking types in suits. They emerged a few minutes later with 3 sullen looking white people in handcuffs. The crime scene detectives and others, my guess is DEA, are still there.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:53:28am
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A Mom Anon  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:54:03am

re: #299 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nope. He’ll always have time to be evil. It’s probably on his daily schedule.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:54:06am

re: #196 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You really miss a lot if you skip out on a movie because it’s subtitled IMO. I’d much rather watch a subtitled foreign movie than a dubbed one. It was darkly funny. The weird thing is that Trump brought up Gone with the Wind in Colorado of all places and Sunset Boulevard which is about a delusional has been movie star. I’m seeing more and more foreign movies and tv shows. I saw an Israeli movie yesterday in the theater and I’m watching a Belorussian one now about occupied life during WWII.

I like to watch movies in other languages, especially if it’s a movie that I have already seen in English. All Blu-Ray movies come with a choice of language, for Region A (North America) it’s English, Spanish (Mexican) and French (Canadian). Disney film especially are fun to watch in other languages. I have Rapunzel and Frozen in German and Hunchback of Notre Dame in French: Canadian French but I think it is better than the European French version that I have seen excerpts from online.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:54:37am

Seeing a new anti-Bernie thing making the rounds all over FB today… claiming Bernie plans to pay for M4A by taxing all income over $29,000 at 52%, and then doing “the math” to show that full-time work at a $15 min wage nets $31K, and so Bernie “wants to take half of that away.”

And people are so gullible and undereducated about marginal tax rates that they’re swallowing it.

Ugh.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:54:37am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:54:59am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

While true, it’s still a struggle for disabled people to find work that will support them financially.

Here in GA we have a cool program put together by the late Tommy Nobis, called Nobis Works. My son went through it after high school. He learned a lot and is now employed outside the program by his own skills in landing a job.

But, while in the program, he made minimum wage. He worked for Kroger through them and it was hard for him to get Kroger to see beyond his autism. That’s why he quit and went out on his own. He’s making almost double minimum wage, but it’s still not enough to survive on his own, even with roommates.

Of course this is true for everyone right now, wages have not kept up with housing costs and other expenses. We’re still lagging way behind on helping everyone get some equal footing in this country.

There is definitely a lot more we need to do as a society to help low income and disabled people.

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Alephnaught  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:55:38am

re: #126 Belafon

Honestly, judging by his recent performances, with all that slurring of words and involuntary full body twitches, I don’t think Trump is going to be fit to debate Warren, or whoever the Democratic candidate turns out to be.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear excuses from the Republicans along the lines of “Why should our dear Leader lower himself to debate these DemoncRAT traitors?!?11!!?ELEVENTY!?!?” (Of course, Trump’s malignant narcissism might overrule that.)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:57:51am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:58:04am

re: #307 Alephnaught

Honestly, judging by his recent performances, with all that slurring of words and involuntary full body twitches, I don’t think Trump is going to be fit to debate Warren, or whoever the Democratic candidate turns out to be.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear excuses from the Republicans along the lines of “Why should our dear Leader lower himself to debate these DemoncRAT traitors?!?11!!?ELEVENTY!?!?” (Of course, Trump’s malignant narcissism might overrule that.)

After watching her flay Bloomberg alive, I would love to see Warren give Trump the same treatment.

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plansbandc  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:58:13am
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makeitstop  Feb 21, 2020 • 10:58:30am

re: #293 Eventual Carrion

“Donald tRump cheats on his wives” should have been another statement on that marquee.

That probably wouldn’t bother him half as much as the one about him cheating at golf.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:00:04am

re: #310 plansbandc

Welp. I’m OLD. I loved that album(s). I was 15 when it came out.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:00:33am

re: #309 NO SMOCKING GUN!

After watching her flay Bloomberg alive, I would love to see Warren give Trump the same treatment.

I can just see it, Trump screaming SHE’S ON THE WARPATH!!! SHE’S GONNA SCALP ME!!11!!

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William Lewis  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:02:11am

re: #297 SerialUpDinger

Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that story.

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plansbandc  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:04:02am

re: #312 A Mom Anon

I loved it when I was a kid and I love it now. Still a huge Zep fan. And yeah, we’re old. :D

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:04:26am

re: #307 Alephnaught

Honestly, judging by his recent performances, with all that slurring of words and involuntary full body twitches, I don’t think Trump is going to be fit to debate Warren, or whoever the Democratic candidate turns out to be.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear excuses from the Republicans along the lines of “Why should our dear Leader lower himself to debate these DemoncRAT traitors?!?11!!?ELEVENTY!?!?” (Of course, Trump’s malignant narcissism might overrule that.)

It’ll be so easy to taunt him. If it is Warren, she should hold all of the debates in DC, “so that the president doesn’t have to travel very far.” He’ll show up if she says the right thing.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:04:59am

Fuck this campaign to hell with a rusty pitchfork.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:05:55am

re: #227 makeitstop

I could vote for either. Joe, because he’s pretty steady and Trump wouldn’t rattle him; Warren, because after she took the bark off Bloomberg the other night I’m pretty sure she’d be able to rattle Trump pretty good.

I’m pretty much good with anybody but Bernie (potential Mondale-scale whupping in store) and Pete (not a big enough personality, Trump would eat his lunch).

Even Bloomberg, if it came to that. He’d get under Trump’s skin for sure, and we’ll need that from whoever emerges.

Warren has already rattled a lot of people. I think it’s one reason that word might have come down from on high in the media markets to try to torpedo her campaign if possible. She is not dealing out platitudes and she is qualified and serious enough that she will try, and probably get, some of her policies passed if elected - and assuming some Senate seats flip Democratic as well.

That my financial adviser mentioned her by name four months ago indicates that in the RW sphere she is already getting noticed and has traction as a threat.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:06:01am

re: #313 The Pie Overlord!

I can just see it, Trump screaming SHE’S ON THE WARPATH!!! SHE’S GONNA SCALP ME!!11!!

“And if you’re that scared of me, think of what the rest of the world will think.” Make him look weak.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:10:39am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:12:58am

re: #282 sagehen

Bloomberg would definitely be a team player. He hates Trump. He loathes Trump. If he doesn’t get the nomination, his entire campaign team/staff/budget will magically transform into a Super-PAC supporting whoever the D’s nominate.

Let’s see how that plays out. I’m not sold.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:16:13am

She’s running for Congress-and from the law.

Local Minnesota authorities are on the lookout for Rep. Ilhan Omar’s (D-MN) Republican challenger, Danielle Stella, who failed to appear in court after she was charged with theft.

Staffers at the Hennepin County District Court and the county sheriff’s office confirmed to TPM that a judge had issued an arrest warrant after Stella skipped her hearing on October 31.

“We can confirm that she does have an active felony theft warrant in Hennepin County,” Jeremy Zoss, the sheriff’s director of communications, said in an emailed statement.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:21:08am

re: #301 Dave In Austin

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What peon is that on the bottom of my shoe?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:22:45am

re: #322 Joe Bacon 🌹

Does this mean she is ineligible to run for Congress now?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:23:36am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

Does this mean she is ineligible to run for Congress now?

Nope; she is innocent until proven guilty.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:24:45am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

Does this mean she is ineligible to run for Congress now?

She’s literally running for congress.

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Alephnaught  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:29:44am

re: #310 plansbandc

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Oooh, makes me feel a little bit older. (I’m about a month or two older than Led Zeppelin 4.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:33:41am

re: #322 Joe Bacon 🌹

She’s running for Congress-and from the law.

Local Minnesota authorities are on the lookout for Rep. Ilhan Omar’s (D-MN) Republican challenger, Danielle Stella, who failed to appear in court after she was charged with theft.

Staffers at the Hennepin County District Court and the county sheriff’s office confirmed to TPM that a judge had issued an arrest warrant after Stella skipped her hearing on October 31.

“We can confirm that she does have an active felony theft warrant in Hennepin County,” Jeremy Zoss, the sheriff’s director of communications, said in an emailed statement.

talkingpointsmemo.com

The GOP is dipping lower and lower into the criminal talent pool to fill their ranks. They started with mob bosses and millionaire con-artists and now they are down to petty shoplifters. How the mighty are fallen!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:36:05am

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m surprised that Chuck C isn’t running for Congress!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:38:39am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:39:04am

re: #329 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m surprised that Chuck C isn’t running for Congress!

A couple more steps down and they’ll tag him for it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:39:42am
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A Mom Anon  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:42:16am

re: #332 The Pie Overlord!

Why oh why do you not live closer to me? Damn it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:44:22am

Trump demonstrates his support for the working man.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 21, 2020 • 11:50:05am

re: #286 makeitstop

He’s already announced that his entire campaign staff would be employed for the duration, whether or not he’s the nominee.

Like Sagehen said, there’s mucho bad blood between Bloomberg and Trump. Mike is ready to spend big money to bring Trump down, and his staff is on point. They would be a great asset to whoever gets the nom.

They would be a better asset imo if they self-edited a little more and we didn’t also get to see every dumb idea they come up with.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:03:09pm

re: #301 Dave In Austin

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:04:41pm

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

Does this mean she is ineligible to run for Congress now?

No, it means she is now on Trump’s short list for Secretary of Commerce.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:08:57pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:10:17pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:18:21pm

Half way through the Kentucky legislative session this year. To my pleasant surprise the heavily GOP house passed a bill to ban corporal punishment in schools. I hope it becomes law! The House has also passed a bill legalizing medicinal cannabis. Meanwhile the Senate has passed a bill banning “sanctuary cities” (there are none in KY) and a “born alive” bill to stop the rampant murder of babies who survive abortion attempts (doesn’t happen).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:20:10pm

New video from DW about pork consumption diving soy bean production around the world:

Soyalism | DW Documentary

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:20:12pm

WTFITS?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:21:36pm

re: #342 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I feel sorry for those poor birds. :(

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:28:56pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:34:41pm

Partial NV caucus returns should start coming in at 4pm ET. on Saturday

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 12:47:48pm

re: #345 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Those would have to be very partial, as the full caucus isn’t until tomorrow, correct?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:09:39pm

re: #346 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Those would have to be very partial, as the full caucus isn’t until tomorrow, correct?

First results are probably from advance ballots.

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aatharuv  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:09:49pm

re: #346 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Nevada has had early caucuses for those who can’t caucus on Saturday (usually religious Jews).

Edit: (Okay, I reread and they start after Saturday sundown, though NV has early voting too..)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:11:08pm

Oh my god, ANOTHER Rally tonight???

Someone make him stop, please.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:12:05pm

re: #345 NO SMOCKING GUN!

re: #346 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #348 aatharuv

And probably absentee ballots too. I know PA holds those ballots aside so that they are counted with the voters who come to the polls.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:13:06pm
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mmmirele  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:14:53pm

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First world problems.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:15:21pm
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ericblair  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:16:39pm

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh my god, ANOTHER Rally tonight???

Someone make him stop, please.

If it gives him another chance to topple over and blow a gasket on live TV, by all means continue.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:17:09pm

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh my god, ANOTHER Rally tonight???

Someone make him stop, please.

3 days in a row right?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:17:34pm

re: #354 ericblair

We should be that lucky.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:18:02pm

re: #354 ericblair

If it gives him another chance to topple over and blow a gasket on live TV, by all means continue.

I’m expecting it at some point. This is just bizarre even for him. It also means he has no grounds at all to complain about Congress doing nothing or even considering his budget.

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aatharuv  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:22:53pm

re: #357 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:23:55pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:25:36pm

Fucking awesome. Just awesome. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:25:52pm

re: #358 aatharuv

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:28:39pm

re: #357 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m expecting it at some point. This is just bizarre even for him. It also means he has no grounds at all to complain about Congress doing nothing or even considering his budget.

Does that matter? Everything he says is a lie and all his followers eat them up, every last lie. Like shit soup with a big ol spoon. Mmm mmm mmm.

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aatharuv  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:31:19pm

re: #361 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:31:52pm

re: #346 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Those would have to be very partial, as the full caucus isn’t until tomorrow, correct?

Corrected the post!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:33:19pm

re: #362 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Does that matter? Everything he says is a lie and all his followers eat them up, every last lie. Like shit soup with a big ol spoon. Mmm mmm mmm.

You’re not getting me. I’m merely stating that it gets more and more bizarre every day that this goes on. Of course, they’re going to eat everything he says up. I’m saying that him doing it allows us to counter that he’s a lazy piece of shit POTUS that does nothing but goes to rally to bitch about whatever is up his ass at the moment. He’s not going to win the narrative. He actually has to defend his record now. I think as we get closer to November, more people are going to see just how unhinged he really is. Unfortunately, there’s no way he’s going to get 25thed or landslided but i think he’s beatable and I think he’s giving us ammo.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:34:21pm

re: #360 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fucking awesome. Just awesome. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Argh. I like you AOC, but this isn’t the way to fight this battle.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:34:38pm

re: #363 aatharuv

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ericblair  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:36:09pm

re: #358 aatharuv

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:36:36pm

re: #344 NO SMOCKING GUN!

So, they can’t get unanimous verdicts on counts 1 and 3, which limits the counts that are in play - and that depends on whether they were deadlocked on the Sciorra or Haley portion of the count.

Five counts:

Count 1: Predatory Sexual Assault (Miriam Haley/Annabella Sciorra)
lf you find the defendant guilty of Count One, Predatory Sexual Assault, then do not consider Count Two, and instead proceed to consider Count Three. lf you find the defendant not guilty of Count One, Predatory Sexual Assault in the First Degree, for the reason that the People have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime of either Rape in the First Degree or Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree against Annabella Sciorra, then you must also find the defendant not guilty of Count Three, and then proceed to consider Counts Two, Four and Five. lf you find the defendant not guilty of Count One, Predatory Sexual
Assault for the reason than that the People have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime of Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree against Miriam Haley, then you must also find the defendant not guilty of Count Two and proceed to Counts Three, Four and Five.

2 Criminal Sexual Act in the First Deoree (Miriam Halev)

3 Predatory Sexual Assault (Jessica Mann / Annabella Sciorra)
lf you find the defendant guilty of Count Three, Predatory Sexual Assault, then do not consider Counts Four and Five. lf you find the defendant not guilty of Count Three, Predatory Sexual Assault in the First Degree for the reason that the people have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime of either Rape in the First Degree or Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree against Annabella Sciorra, then you must proceed to consider Counts Four and Five. lf you find the defendant not guilty of Count Three, predatory Sexual Assault, for the reason than that the people have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime of Rape in First Degree against Jessica Mann, then you the must.find the defendant not guilty of Count Four and proceed to consider Count Five.

Count 4:
Rape in First Degree (Jessica Mann)

Count 5:
Rape in the Third Degree (Jessica Mann)

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:37:48pm

re: #360 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Cristina Tzintzún Ramirez, one of the candidates to get an endorsement, is running in the Democratic primary in the race to challenge Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas. She will be competing in a crowded field of Democratic candidates, including MJ Hegar, who has been endorsed by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the campaign arm for Senate Democrats.

Two of the candidates are mounting primary challenges to incumbent House Democrats and have been previously endorsed by Ocasio-Cortez: Marie Newman, a Democrat challenging Democratic Rep. Dan Lipinski in Illinois and Jessica Cisneros, a Democrat challenging Democratic Rep. Henry Cueller in Texas.

One of the candidates, Kara Eastman in Nebraska, is running in the Democratic primary to challenge Republican Rep. Don Bacon.

That’s not a bad list. I think Hegar has the slot here in Texas, but otherwise, go for it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:38:01pm

re: #366 Eclectic Cyborg

Argh. I like you AOC, but this isn’t the way to fight this battle.

TBH I find the thing offputting. AOC is a freshman in a safe blue district and won her primary last time in part due to low turnout and the incumbent being a moron who took his renomination for granted. I don’t want her purged or anything like that but I think she should at least try to gain some more experience before she deem herself a kingmaker. I do find it interesting that these are all women and AOC is a Bernieloyalist and Bernie claims to be against so called identity politics. Nothing wrong with campaigning to elect more women but I find it sort of funny given Bernie.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:38:08pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:38:44pm

I feel somewhat disturbed that the likes of AOC are so certain that their progressive activism is a winning platform that they can campaign against incumbent Democrats.

Maybe I’m just getting old, but I get the feeling that a lot of young people are not really as tuned into the world as they like to think.

We are a nation where a rather diverse but still somewhat conservative view of the world dominates. Even among long time Democrats, the general feeling is to stick with older ways (especially in regards to religion) rather than a radical form of “progressive”.

If I were to rank what I think are the hills to die on, they would be:
(1) remove remaining political disenfranchisement, and
(2) fix any lingering bigotry in the justice system.

To me those should be no-brainers and certainly most Democrats would agree.

But if you’re campaigning on such gimmicks as eliminating college debt, or taxing churches, etc., those are just too segment-specific to go all crazy in undermining your party.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:42:26pm

re: #373 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I feel somewhat disturbed that the likes of AOC are so certain that there progressive activism is a winning platform that they can campaign against incumbent Democrats.

Maybe I’m just getting old, but I get the feeling that a lot of young people are not really as tuned into the world as they like to think.

We are a nation where a rather diverse but still somewhat conservative view of the world dominates. Even among long time Democrats, the general feeling is to stick with older ways (especially in regards to religion) rather than a radical form of “progressive”.

If I were to rank what I think are the hills to die on, they would be:
(1) remove remaining political disenfranchisement, and
(2) fix any lingering bigotry in the justice system.

To me those should be no-brainers and certainly most Democrats would agree.

But if you’re campaigning on such gimmicks as eliminating college debt, or taxing churches, etc., those are just too segment-specific to go all crazy in undermining your party.

I don’t want to dismiss her since it’s a credit to our democratic system that she challenged successfully a Democratic incumbent in the leadership but AOC is based out of a district that would probably go Democratic if I ran there and didn’t bother to campaign. We didn’t flip the House with her district. Is her district important? Absolutely but she’s part of a coalition of representatives with vastly different interests than NY-14.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:43:29pm

re: #372 Patricia Kayden

What’s he going to do? I have a hard time that Bernie has ever seriously looked at cybersecurity as an issue.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:43:56pm

re: #374 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We didn’t flip the House with her district. Is her district important? Absolutely but she’s part of a coalition of representatives with vastly different interests than NY-14.

This.

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lawhawk  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:44:51pm

Russia is actively trying to help Bernie campaign.

Of course they are. They’re up to the same fucking tricks that they did in 2016, and we’re just as open to this fuckery.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:45:02pm

I feel as if we’re forgetting how the Tea Party took over the GOP - they challenged incumbents in safe GOP seats in the primaries. You build a more progressive Democratic party by electing more progressive Democrats in safe Democratic seats.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:45:30pm

Check out @aagcobb1’s Tweet:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:46:16pm

re: #376 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This.

I mean she has my respect don’t get me wrong. She’s the only House member younger than I am and she saw her civic duty and ran with it. That’s great. It’s what Democracy is all about but she seems not to understand that any Democrat would win her district. She campaigned against people like Sharice Davids who did. I dunno. I like AOC but she needs to focus more on being a representative than a celebrity. She’s young though so she I think can become a more pragmatic politically speaking politician. She wouldn’t be the first.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:47:25pm

re: #378 Blind Frog Belly White

I feel as if we’re forgetting how the Tea Party took over the GOP - they challenged incumbents in safe GOP seats in the primaries. You build a more progressive Democratic party by electing more progressive Democrats in safe Democratic seats.

Reload 378. I goofed on the next to last word, which completely fucked up the meaning.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:49:03pm

re: #377 lawhawk

Russia is actively trying to help Bernie campaign.

Of course they are. They’re up to the same fucking tricks that they did in 2016, and we’re just as open to this fuckery.

Likely more so.

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ericblair  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:52:17pm

re: #382 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Likely more so.

I don’t like Bernie at all, but at least he said the right thing. Far more than the shitgibbon could ever manage.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:53:17pm

What’s up with Biden?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:53:29pm

re: #381 Blind Frog Belly White

The ground work for the collapse of the GOP into a cesspit of atavism was laid long before the Tea Party.

We need to look at the long run of how to make changes. Changes don’t happen by fiat (except in a dictatorship.) Change happens as generations turn over, which means change is slow.

And slow means finding ways of building bridges in critical political districts. Such as happened last time here in San Diego county, when Car Thief finally was not longer representing that (rich) part of the county. It took several elections to flip that district to (D).

If you look at “purple” districts, like the two in Iowa which flipped last election to (D), they can flip right back to (R) if the electorate perceives a threat.

We live in a country where a third of the people still think the world was created 6000 years ago.

Working in a society like that is never going to allow the type of progressivism that AOC wants. It just isn’t going to work.

Which is why I never encourage Democratic candidates to go all atheist in their public discourses, because claiming such non-beliefs is still seen as outcast in our society.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:54:56pm

I really think Joe is starting to lose it mentally.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:56:08pm

re: #384 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with Biden?

No idea but Biden did have a big role in overturning Reagan’s veto against sanctions in South Africa.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:56:23pm

re: #373 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As a middle-aged fogie myself, I think far too many people my age and older don’t have much of a clue what’s going on either. The whole point of “OK, Boomer” was to push back on the “back in my day I worked a part time job and went to college, so you can just suck up your college debt” and “give up avacado toast and buy a house,” neither of which work today. And then there’s the whole generation growing up on training at school to dodge bullets. None of those things are workable in the long run.

I like most of the incumbant challenges they are backing. Lipinski and Cuellar need to be replaced. I think the Cornyn one isn’t going to work, but as long as they back Hegar, that’s ok.

As someone said back after the 2016 election, these “kids” have grown up on Harry Potter, Hunger Games, and a whole host of fiction telling them that not only can they not rely on adults to take care of them, but that the adults may be part of the problem. We can’t just expect them to just vote as we see fit. We kinda messed it up. It’s going to be their world.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:58:37pm

re: #388 Belafon

It’s going to be their world.

Right now it looks like Putin’s world, where oligarchs (often connected to oil and other resources) have their way, and the masses go deeper into debt.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:59:44pm

re: #385 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The ground work for the collapse of the GOP into a cesspit of atavism was laid long before the Tea Party.

We need to look at the long run of how to make changes. Changes don’t happen by fiat (except in a dictatorship.) Change happens as generations turn over, which means change is slow.

And slow means finding ways of building bridges in critical political districts. Such as happened last time here in San Diego county, when Car Thief finally was not longer representing that (rich) part of the county. It took several elections to flip that district to (D).

If you look at “purple” districts, like the two in Iowa which flipped last election to (D), they can flip right back to (R) if the electorate perceives a threat.

We live in a country where a third of the people still think the world was created 6000 years ago.

Working in a society like that is never going to allow the type of progressivism that AOC wants. It just isn’t going to work.

Which is why I never encourage Democratic candidates to go all atheist in their public discourses, because claiming such non-beliefs is still seen as outcast in our society.

Change is slow, except for the collapse of the Whigs and the realignment after the Civil Rights act, where political change was pretty quick.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 21, 2020 • 1:59:49pm

re: #352 mmmirele

First world problems.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:00:26pm

re: #383 ericblair

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I don’t like Bernie at all, but at least he said the right thing. Far more than the shitgibbon could ever manage.

Agreed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:00:30pm

re: #390 Belafon

Change is slow, except for the collapse of the Whigs and the realignment after the Civil Rights act, where political change was pretty quick.

Then again, Trump has changed an endless amount of shit since taking office.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:01:33pm

re: #377 lawhawk

Russia is actively trying to help Bernie campaign.

Of course they are. They’re up to the same fucking tricks that they did in 2016, and we’re just as open to this fuckery.

Same response Trump’s camp has. “The swamp and career bureaucrats don’t want their meal ticket messed with. They’ll make up any lie to stop Bernie/Trump from fixing things!”.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:01:39pm

re: #393 Eclectic Cyborg

Then again, Trump has changed an endless amount of shit since taking office.

It may seem that way, but his actions are the results of concerted and planned efforts in the 1970’s by American evangelicals to change the nature of the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:02:46pm

re: #391 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Dread Pirate  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:07:05pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:07:38pm

re: #394 GlutenFreeJesus

Same response Trump’s camp has. “The swamp and career bureaucrats don’t want their meal ticket messed with. They’ll make up any lie to stop Bernie/Trump from fixing things!”.

Yeah the receipts aren’t good when it comes to Bernie and Russia.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:11:29pm
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KGxvi  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:11:46pm

re: #390 Belafon

Change is slow, except for the collapse of the Whigs and the realignment after the Civil Rights act, where political change was pretty quick.

Our system is designed to make change slow. Staggered elections and diffuse powers not only among the three federal branches but between the federal and state governments, should temper passions and compel consensus building. At least that was the idea, especially when you had the state legislatures between voters and the selection of Senators and electors between voters and the presidential election.

Of course, we’ve also seen over the last four years how much our institutions rely on honest and decent people being generally honorable in order to function properly.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:13:04pm

re: #389 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Right now it looks like Putin’s world, where oligarchs (often connected to oil and other resources) have their way, and the masses go deeper into debt.

And if we piecemeal along, it’s going to stay that way. Occasionally, we should look and see if all we’re doing is pulling harder on a Chinese finger puzzle, and figure out if it’s time to change how we solve our problems.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:14:02pm

re: #400 KGxvi

Our system is designed to make change slow. Staggered elections and diffuse powers not only among the three federal branches but between the federal and state governments, should temper passions and compel consensus building. At least that was the idea, especially when you had the state legislatures between voters and the selection of Senators and electors between voters and the presidential election.

Of course, we’ve also seen over the last four years how much our institutions rely on honest and decent people being generally honorable in order to function properly.

And if people supported by AOC’s group win, then it’ll be telling how much people are wanting to change things.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:17:58pm

Bernie is not shouty, he’s “passionate”.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:21:42pm

re: #403 Sherlock Hound

Bernie is not shouty, he’s “passionate”.

He should try smiling more.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:22:01pm
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uriel  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:23:11pm

And *this* is exactly what pises me off about Sanders supporters. They’re just so obviously dishonest and arguing from bad faith about *every god damned thing.*:

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:24:07pm

I don’t trust Bernie to disavow Russian involvement: His staff and followers have too much to gain from Putin.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:25:14pm

re: #406 uriel

What the actual fuck is up with that?

That’s like condescension level 1000.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:26:38pm

So my local paper (SF Chronicle) just endorsed Amy Klobuchar. I wonder how much of that is regional loyalty.

Going with the snooty easterner (Warren) myself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:27:04pm

Anyone remember Bryan Fischer? He’s still around. And he’s still an asshole.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:27:18pm

re: #406 uriel

And *this* is exactly what pises me off about Sanders supporters. They’re just so obviously dishonest and arguing from bad faith about *every god damned thing.*:

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I would have taken things the same way you did. I’ve been called “challenged” before. I know innuendo.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:27:19pm

re: #406 uriel

And *this* is exactly what pises me off about Sanders supporters. They’re just so obviously dishonest and arguing from bad faith about *every god damned thing.*:

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They’re assholes. It’s why I hope like hell they lose.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:27:40pm

re: #410 Eclectic Cyborg

Anyone remember Bryan Fischer? He’s still around. And he’s still an asshole.

There’s an old name.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:29:03pm

re: #404 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I just love how the original poster is being accused of “white tears.”

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:29:49pm

Well, how about that?

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EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:31:15pm

re: #412 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re assholes. It’s why I hope like hell they lose.

Me too. Of course I will vote for Sanders in the general election if he is the nominee, but I’ve never once considered voting for him in a primary, either this year or in 2016.

Much like how Trump’s actions are indistinguishable from those of a Russian agent, Sanders’ actions are way too often indistinguishable from those of an agent of the plutocracy determined to see any policy proposal that is left of center on economics get buried for the next century or so.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:31:20pm

re: #411 Sherlock Hound

I would have taken things the same way you did. I’ve been called “challenged” before. I know innuendo.

They just act like if you don’t support Bernie, it must be because you’re stupid. TBH four years ago, I genuinely appreciate the idealism he inspired because hell that was me sixteen years ago. I’ve been that kid a lot more recently than the “boomers” they despise. But I think he’s really created something awful too. The whole if you don’t support my candidate, you must be stupid. I as you all know canvassed for the Democrat that lost to Tom Perriello. One of the first things I did for Tom was to get signatures that got him on the ballot. One of the people I got to sign was a Northam backer who just happened to be the then State Senator in our county seat who is now our Congresswoman. Bernie’s people think it has to be Bernie or nothing. They need to combine their genuine want for change to help elect likeminded candidates. Otherwise, they’re just dickbags. I hate the Tea Party but they knew how to fall in once they lost.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:31:39pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:32:40pm

re: #418 jaunte

An un-clearable acting DNI. What a fucking world this is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:33:14pm

re: #414 Sherlock Hound

I just love how the original poster is being accused of “white tears.”

I do a lot of reading of Twitter to see what’s going on. The Bernie supporters are consistently condescending assholes and treat anyone who isn’t sure about Bernie as if they’re stupid.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:33:37pm

re: #419 EPR-radar

Jared will sell him a dispensation.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:36:05pm

re: #415 jaunte

Well, how about that?

She’s more effective than Bernie. That’s why I like her. I prefer Biden but I have nothing but respect for Warren as a doer.

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EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:37:19pm

re: #421 jaunte

Jared will sell him a dispensation.

If Trump manages to convince the senior career spooks that he’s a serious threat to the mission, he really is going to get nailed by the ‘deep state’ and it will be glorious.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:37:49pm

re: #419 EPR-radar

An un-clearable acting DNI. What a fucking world this is.

Trump will probably just override it like he did for Kushner.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:38:25pm

About that idea that Bernie will bring out the young voters:

Iowa caucus turnout was disappointing.
NH primary turnout was up, but inline with the increase in voting-age population over 2008.

If the NV caucuses keep this trend, I think we should dispense with the idea that Bernie will bring out a surge of young voters.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:38:41pm

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump will probably just override it like he did for Kushner.

I think what he means is that it just shows how fucked we are right now. It’s why FP remains one of my big issues.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:40:08pm

re: #406 uriel

And *this* is exactly what pises me off about Sanders supporters. They’re just so obviously dishonest and arguing from bad faith about *every god damned thing.*:

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Sassy might want to go look at the >$10M Warren has raised since the debate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:40:34pm

re: #425 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

About that idea that Bernie will bring out the young voters:

Iowa caucus turnout was disappointing.
NH primary turnout was up, but inline with the increase in voting-age population over 2008.

If the NV caucuses keep this trend, I think we should dispense with the idea that Bernie will bring out a surge of young voters.

He won New Hampshire four years ago in a landslide. This time he barely beat Pete. Lowest percentage for an New Hampshire winner since 1952 yet he wants to act like he’s on the way to being the nominee. He’s not. And I look forward to more exposing of his hypocrisy. By the way, I won’t give him an attaboy for the interference because he would if he read the Mueller Report would have known that the Russians were helping him last time and he shrugged it off.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:41:05pm

re: #427 Belafon

Sassy might want to go look at the >$10M Warren has raised since the debate.

I would love love love for Warren to overtake Bernie. She’s actually effective.

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EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:42:04pm

re: #429 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I would love love love for Warren to overtake Bernie. She’s actually effective.

Warren is the person who has actually made the right enemies.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:42:52pm

re: #430 EPR-radar

Warren is the person who has actually made the right enemies.

As I said, she’s a doer not a shouter.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:45:49pm

Oligarchs don’t like Warren, so I do.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:46:48pm

You have to understand that by supporting Trump who hates our international system of alliances and Bernie who is uninterested at best in foreign affairs is that Russia benefits from having one of them in the WH since it allows Russia to threaten the sovereignty of its neighbors unchecked and what’s more is Bernie and Trump are both polarizing figures too. I don’t know if Bernie outright encourages interference on his behalf like Trump did but he does benefit from it and he has consistently since 2016.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:47:02pm

re: #418 jaunte

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Didn’t disclose the payments. Naturally. I mean, I know with all the various Moldovan politicians I work for it can be hard to keep track of pays me what…

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:47:38pm
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bratwurst  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:48:21pm

I knew I would be angry when I discovered why “Paul Ryan” was trending, but I guess I didn’t expect to be this angry.

I actually hate Ryan more than Trump. I figured out Trump was human garbage when I was a teenager in the 1980s (forgive me for not being real impressed that the Micheal Cohens and Anthony Scaramuccis only recently came to that realization), so I am horrified but not surprised by how he conducts himself as POTUS.

As recently as three years ago, Paul Ryan claimed to be opposed to a huge part of what Trump stands for. Within a few months he was enabling the big orange baby. Rather than going back to being a backbench congressman from the armpit of Wisconsin last year, he quit…yet he is STILL looking to placate Trump from the sidelines.

Fuck Paul Ryan.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:51:39pm

re: #436 bratwurst

I knew I would be angry when I discovered why “Paul Ryan” was trending, but I guess I didn’t expect to be this angry.

I actually hate Ryan more than Trump. I figured out Trump was human garbage when I was a teenager in the 1980s (forgive me for not being real impressed that the Micheal Cohens and Anthony Scaramuccis only recently came to that realization), so I am horrified but not surprised by how he conducts himself as POTUS.

As recently as three years ago, Paul Ryan claimed to be opposed to a huge part of what Trump stands for. Within a few months he was enabling the big orange baby. Rather than going back to being a backbench congressman from the armpit of Wisconsin, he quit…yet he is STILL looking to placate Trump from the sidelines.

Fuck Paul Ryan.

He’s the ultimate fuck you, I got mine Republican. He’s probably hoping that maybe he can get back in the good graces of Trump by doing this. Got an gubernatorial election in Wisconsin in 2022 don’t they?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:52:49pm

So this happened in Vegas.
nbcnews.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:54:47pm

Maybe he could put them in a binder for us.

Mike Bloomberg on Friday announced he would release women from three non-disclosure agreements if they wanted to speak publicly about sexual harassment while working at his media company.

The decision came two days after Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren blasted the media mogul’s record with women on Wednesday night’s debate stage. Bloomberg rebuffed her demand he release female employees from the gag agreements but has since reversed that stance.

nypost.com

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:57:31pm

re: #439 Shropshire Slasher

I know someone here thought it was a populist stunt, but what Warren was actually showing was that Bloomberg’s excuses on that front were limitations he could work around.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 2:59:36pm

re: #436 bratwurst

I knew I would be angry when I discovered why “Paul Ryan” was trending, but I guess I didn’t expect to be this angry.

I actually hate Ryan more than Trump. I figured out Trump was human garbage when I was a teenager in the 1980s (forgive me for not being real impressed that the Micheal Cohens and Anthony Scaramuccis only recently came to that realization), so I am horrified but not surprised by how he conducts himself as POTUS.

As recently as three years ago, Paul Ryan claimed to be opposed to a huge part of what Trump stands for. Within a few months he was enabling the big orange baby. Rather than going back to being a backbench congressman from the armpit of Wisconsin, he quit…yet he is STILL looking to placate Trump from the sidelines.

Fuck Paul Ryan.

Paul Ryan is the definition of failing upwards.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:04:06pm

re: #441 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Paul Ryan is the definition of failing upwards.

He’s a mediocre fuckhead who read too much Ayn Rand fan fiction. How’s that for me being too nice haha.

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bratwurst  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:05:08pm

re: #441 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Paul Ryan is the definition of failing upwards.

I remember how GLEEFUL a former right-wing regular here was about the prospect of Ryan debating Joe Biden in 2012.

I am not sure I fully appreciated Biden’s political skills before that night. Ok, defeating Paul Ryan in a battle of wits was hardly a great feat, but Uncle Joe made it look effortless.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:07:48pm

re: #443 bratwurst

I remember how GLEEFUL a former right-wing regular here was about the prospect of Ryan debating Joe Biden in 2012.

I am not sure I fully appreciated Biden’s political skills before that. Ok, defeating Paul Ryan in a battle of wits was hardly a great feat, but Uncle Joe made it look effortless.

He loved Rubio too. I always saw Rubio as a cynical GOP trying to make their own Obama. The problem is Rubio’s A) nowhere near intelligent as Obama, B) nowhere near as likable, and C) nowhere near as effective, and D) he’s not a leader. They just saw they had a young guy at the time who took advantage of the fact that the GOP base got into a rage because Charlie Crist didn’t despise Obama and rode it into the Senate. It’s my understanding Jeb’s people have some stories about how duplicious a guy Rubio is.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:09:22pm

Evening Lizardim.

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bratwurst  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:13:47pm

re: #444 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He loved Rubio too. I always saw Rubio as a cynical GOP trying to make their own Obama. The problem is Rubio’s A) nowhere near intelligent as Obama, B) nowhere near as likable, and C) nowhere near as effective, and D) he’s not a leader. They just saw they had a young guy at the time who took advantage of the fact that the GOP base got into a rage because Charlie Crist didn’t despise Obama and rode it into the Senate. It’s my understanding Jeb’s people have some stories about how duplicious a guy Rubio is.

Exactly, the GOP was anxious to find their Obama. The problem was they were (and are) SO shallow and SO short-sighted that they convinced themselves that being under 65 and not a WASP was all it took.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:13:56pm

So lunch and shopping today with my sister and a friend — so three old white ladies all at least 70 years old. The only positions in common were absolute hatred of Trump, belief that his reelection would doom our nation, and total dislike of Bernie.

My sister, whose favorite is Klobuchar, insisted that none of the current crop of candidates has the stage presence to defeat Trump and that (as many of us believe) he will not debate anyone. (My sister always said that the only Democrat Trump would debate was Marianne Williamson). She hasn’t seen more than a few minutes of debates because of her schedule.

The friend supports Bloomberg and believes he has the best chance of defeating Trump; she watched the debate and criticized Warren for shouting and being shrill and hated the attacks on Bloomberg; she shares the circular firing squad narrative. She also (and here I agree with her) thought the questions were terrible — that they should have been more real issue oriented.

But let’s hope Bernie does not get a plurality and that Elizabeth somehow manages to overcome the MSM attempts to eliminate her.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:16:29pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:17:47pm

re: #446 bratwurst

Exactly, the GOP was anxious to find their Obama. The problem was they were (and are) SO shallow and SO short-sighted that they convinced themselves that being under 65 and not a WASP was all it took.

They tried to do it with Jindal too though Jindal’s time in Washington predated Obama.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:18:26pm

re: #448 GlutenFreeJesus

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I remember when it came out he lied about marathon times. It was just telling.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:20:01pm

re: #443 bratwurst

I remember how GLEEFUL a former right-wing regular here was about the prospect of Ryan debating Joe Biden in 2012.

I am not sure I fully appreciated Biden’s political skills before that night. Ok, defeating Paul Ryan in a battle of wits was hardly a great feat, but Uncle Joe made it look effortless.

It was the MSM that christened Paul Ryan as a serious candidate who had serious proposals for dealing with the economy, instead of being the ignorant Ayn-Rand loving hack who wants to give tax cuts to the rich and pay for it by destroying the government social safety net.

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:23:05pm

re: #451 Hecuba’s daughter

It was the MSM that christened Paul Ryan as a serious candidate who had serious proposals for dealing with the economy, instead of being the ignorant Ayn-Rand loving hack who wants to give tax cuts to the rich and pay for it by destroying the government social safety net.

Ayep. Years of buying into the “Roadmap to Prosperity,” even though the damned things never added up and had large sections that might as well have been labeled “And then magic happens…,” always papered over with “promises” that he’d flesh them out…once the damned thing was voted into law. Like most wingnut accounting, you were just supposed to take it on faith that the numbers would add up in the end, when the reality was that they’d nickel and dime your ass the moment they got what they wanted.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:23:34pm

re: #444 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He loved Rubio too. I always saw Rubio as a cynical GOP trying to make their own Obama. The problem is Rubio’s A) nowhere near intelligent as Obama, B) nowhere near as likable, and C) nowhere near as effective, and D) he’s not a leader. They just saw they had a young guy at the time who took advantage of the fact that the GOP base got into a rage because Charlie Crist didn’t despise Obama and rode it into the Senate. It’s my understanding Jeb’s people have some stories about how duplicious a guy Rubio is.

I’m really thirsty all of a sudden. Hmmm…I wonder why.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:23:59pm

Best part was when Ryan distanced himself from Ayn Rand. He claimed he had no idea that she was adamantly anti-religion. And then there’s that he’s supposed to be this anti government guy who outside of working at McDonalds one year and his family business another had no experience working outside of politics.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:25:09pm

re: #453 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m really thirsty all of a sudden. Hmmm…I wonder why.

I mean Christie was the one that finished him off for good when Christie called him out on the stupid zinger he had been rehearsing. I guess it takes one bullshit artist to expose another eh?

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:25:36pm

re: #454 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Best part was when Ryan distanced himself from Ayn Rand. He claimed he had no idea that she was adamantly anti-religion. And then there’s that he’s supposed to be this anti government guy who outside of working at McDonalds one year and his family business another had no experience working outside of politics.

That was supposed to be the “humble beginnings” bit, where you totally ignored that SSI survivor’s benefits and his family’s business paid his way through college.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:27:00pm

re: #452 Targetpractice

Ayep. Years of buying into the “Roadmap to Prosperity,” even though the damned things never added up and had large sections that might as well have been labeled “And then magic happens…,” always papered over with “promises” that he’d flesh them out…once the damned thing was voted into law. Like most wingnut accounting, you were just supposed to take it on faith that the numbers would add up in the end, when the reality was that they’d nickel and dime your ass the moment they got what they wanted.

They treated him like a serious policy intellectual and it came out that he had only passed a bill to name a post office after his predecessor and a tax cut on bows (his hobby.) I just was not impressed. I mean John Kasich is an asshole but I could see why people liked him if they were conservative and he actually had a record of getting shit done. Ryan’s just a punkass who read Rand and thought he knew it at all. There’s a reason why he left the House because he’s a fake.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:27:37pm

re: #456 Targetpractice

That was supposed to be the “humble beginnings” bit, where you totally ignored that SSI survivor’s benefits and his family’s business paid his way through college.

My cousin worked at McDonalds at one point. He’s a third generation engineer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:28:01pm

re: #449 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They tried to do it with Jindal too though Jindal’s time in Washington predated Obama.

Alas, a volcano spewed lava all over his future options.

Plus, he’s a wee bit too Brown for Trump’s America.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:29:52pm

re: #447 Hecuba’s daughter

The only one Trump will debate is Bernie. He’s scared of everyone else.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:30:32pm

re: #459 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Alas, a volcano spewed lava all over his future options.

Plus, he’s a wee bit too Brown for Trump’s America.

He also like Rubio is super flakey. I really think the GOP’s actions the past decade are based on they had no idea how to respond to Obama being the first Democrat since FDR to get over 50% of the popular vote twice and I have to admit that I took for granted how hard that was. I can’t wait to see Obama on the trail this fall. Hopefully he does an appearance in Virginia even though we’re becoming more solidly blue with time.

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bratwurst  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:31:01pm

re: #448 GlutenFreeJesus

Well now you give me no choice but to give this gem one (hopefully) last outing:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:31:23pm

re: #460 GlutenFreeJesus

The only one Trump will debate is Bernie. He’s scared of everyone else.

Bernie vs Trump would be awkward as hell. It’s why I laugh when his supporters mock Biden. At least Biden isn’t THE BILLIONAIRES always.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:31:43pm

re: #448 GlutenFreeJesus

In the gym this is typically referred to as “absent on leg day.”

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:32:00pm

re: #462 bratwurst

I think Hannity’s sex face should be behind a warning.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:33:46pm

re: #462 bratwurst

Well now you give me no choice but to give this gem one (hopefully) last outing:

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See, that’s why I don’t know what to make out of Hannity. How much does he really believe Trump’s bullshit or would be cheering Jeb on the way he does Trump now too? I think there’s a little bit of both because Trump is what he as a Limbaugh protege has always wanted. Plus Trump listens to him in a way that Jeb and obviously I won’t clap would never be calling Lumpy to complain about everything.

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:34:17pm

re: #459 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Alas, a volcano spewed lava all over his future options.

Plus, he’s a wee bit too Brown for Trump’s America.

“Bobby” was never going to rise very far in the party. He and “Nikki” were always going to slam into that glass ceiling labeled “Whites Only” that the Repubs continue to insist doesn’t exist. The only reason they were even willing to consider Rubio is because they needed Florida and “Ted” is white enough to fool them into thinking he’s one of them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:34:26pm

re: #465 jaunte

I think Hannity’s sex face should be behind a warning.

Danger: Backpfeifengesicht ahead.

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bratwurst  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:34:29pm

re: #465 jaunte

I think Hannity’s sex face should be behind a warning.

Seriously…that is the creepiest facial expression ever.

And, naturally, that was far from the only time Sean has gotten sexed up for a male political figure!

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:35:02pm

re: #469 bratwurst

Seriously…that is the creepiest facial expression ever.

And, naturally, that was far from the only time Sean has gotten sexed up for a male political figure!

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:35:05pm

re: #469 bratwurst

ACKGH

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:36:13pm

re: #467 Targetpractice

“Bobby” was never going to rise very far in the party. He and “Nikki” were always going to slam into that glass ceiling labeled “Whites Only” that the Repubs continue to insist doesn’t exist. The only reason they were even willing to consider Rubio is because they needed Florida and “Ted” is white enough to fool them into thinking he’s one of them.

I remember when they bragged about Mia Love. And it was like really, it took y’all to 2012 to elect your first African-American woman and you seriously want to play the stupid semantic games about the parties and civil rights. I mean I’ll be the first to give the GOP pre Southern Strategy credit though it’s more complicated than that- read about the Great Flood of 1928 and Hoover’s weak response to it. One of the better Republicans on Civil Rights funnily enough may have been Harding. He was a crook otherwise or at the very least crook adjacent.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:37:42pm

re: #469 bratwurst

Seriously…that is the creepiest facial expression ever.

And, naturally, that was far from the only time Sean has gotten sexed up for a male political figure!

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The way they talk about Trump is just so creepy. Bannon got his wish though. The GOP is a Leninist party. We rightfully make fun of the Reagan worship but when Reagan was actually President, there was actually dissidents not the stupid Susan Collins gets concerned and then votes with Trump’s position anyhow.

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:39:37pm

re: #472 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I remember when they bragged about Mia Long. And it was like really, it took y’all to 2012 to elect your first African-American woman and you seriously want to play the stupid semantic games about the parties and civil rights. I mean I’ll be the first to give the GOP pre Southern Strategy credit though it’s more complicated than that- read about the Great Flood of 1928 and Hoover’s weak response to it. One of the better Republicans on Civil Rights funnily enough may have been Harding. He was a crook otherwise or at the very least crook adjacent.

You mean Mia Love, the flash-in-the-pan Congress critter from Utah that fell out of favor the moment she lost her reelection bid and then was effectively excommunicated the moment she had the audacity, the sheer cheek to suggest that Trump’s popularity black hole cost her said bid.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:41:18pm

ALERT THE LOYALTY PROCTORS

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:41:50pm

re: #475 jaunte

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ALERT THE LOYALTY PROCTORS

Oooh, this is gonna cost him.

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uriel  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:44:00pm

re: #469 bratwurst

Is that real? I mean, it can’t be, can it? Please tell me it isn’t.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:44:10pm

re: #465 jaunte

I think Hannity’s sex face should be behind a warning.

I think it should be behind bars, but that’s just me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:45:11pm

re: #474 Targetpractice

You mean Mia Love, the flash-in-the-pan Congress critter from Utah that fell out of favor the moment she lost her reelection bid and then was effectively excommunicated the moment she had the audacity, the sheer cheek to suggest that Trump’s popularity black hole cost her said bid.

Haha yeah I meant Mia Love. Don’t know why I thought her last name was Long. But yeah she was very much flash in pan. The problem is they claim to be against identity politics but then insist if you criticize Love, Rubio, Jindal, Cruz, or Haley, then it means you’re actually the racist one. What pisses me off about Cruz especially is how anti immigrant he is. Motherfucker as a Cuban-American benefitted from one of the most liberal immigration policies and yet he talks like Bill the Butcher.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:46:18pm

re: #475 jaunte

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ALERT THE LOYALTY PROCTORS

He was the one that Romney fired because the Evangelicals didn’t like him being gay. Grenell is a dick but it’s got nothing to do with him being gay.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:46:33pm

I’d personally love to see Warren take Trump to the woodshed in a debate.

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:47:16pm

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d personally love to see Warren take Trump to the woodshed in a debate.

So say we all.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:47:30pm

Fuck fuckity fuck fuck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:48:06pm

We’re going to get stuck with Bernie vs. Trump, aren’t we?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:48:26pm

re: #483 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck fuckity fuck fuck.

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There’s been two primaries and a lot of voters are still open to other candidates. Do not let them crown Bernie this early.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:50:24pm

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d personally love to see Warren take Trump to the woodshed in a debate.

Yes, me too.

But, as Newt told Ripley when Ripley said the Colonial Marines were tough hombres, “It won’t make any difference.”

People who were going to vote for Trump anyway will think he won, even if she has him down on the mat and he’s tapping out like mad.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:50:49pm

re: #484 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re going to get stuck with Bernie vs. Trump, aren’t we?

If anybody has any REAL dirt on Bernie then they are running out of time too, they’re voting in Texas and California.

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:52:55pm

re: #483 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck fuckity fuck fuck.

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2016: “Don’t crown Hillary the winner until all 50 states have had a say! Doing so just shows that the whole thing is rigged!”

2020: “BERNIE IS THE WINNER AFTER TWO STATES! JUST END IT NOW AND DECLARE HIM THE NOMINEE!!!”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:54:15pm

re: #487 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

If anybody has any REAL dirt on Bernie then they are running out of time too, they’re voting in Texas and California.

The real dirt will come out when he gets the nomination. Stuff about his wife, etc.

Maybe when they are debating both of them can have heart attacks.

I’m still for Warren.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:54:19pm

re: #487 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

If anybody has any REAL dirt on Bernie then they are running out of time too, they’re voting in Texas and California.

The Republicans have a lot of dirt; it’s the Democrats who don’t. OTOH, who knows whether anything will stick in this era of Trump? Bernie cult is as devoted as Trump cult.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:54:43pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:54:46pm

re: #488 Targetpractice

2016: “Don’t crown Hillary the winner until all 50 states have had a say! Doing so just shows that the whole thing is rigged!”

2020: “BERNIE IS THE WINNER AFTER TWO STATES! JUST END IT NOW AND DECLARE HIM THE NOMINEE!!!”

Honestly, I’d like to see more of the candidates go after him loudly. It shouldn’t be just Bloomberg. As someone with a heart condition, I’m infuriated with how dishonest he’s been about that. THe man is going to be 80% for most of a hypothetical first term and he acts more like Trump than anyone running not named Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:56:17pm

re: #491 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Good for Greyhound. I take their buses up to NYC when I go up there. And I’m sure we can expect a tweet about FAILING GREYHOUND from a douchebag who wouldn’t be caught dead riding a bus,

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:56:39pm

re: #491 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fox News limo-riders to urge boycott of Greyhound buses.

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Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:57:20pm

re: #491 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Trump already asking Barr to look into ways to punish Greyhound for defying his rule.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:58:16pm

re: #450 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And he listens to Rage Against The Machine. lol

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:58:49pm

re: #491 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Now we have more reasons to Go Greyhound. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:59:20pm

Right above the comment box, there’s the title of the previous thread, and the number of comments:

Elizabeth Warren for President (45)

And I thought, “Shouldn’t that be ‘Elizabeth Warren for President (46)?’”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:59:52pm

re: #496 GlutenFreeJesus

And he listens to Rage Against The Machine. lol

It was like dude, you do know that you’re the kind of person that they despise.

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:59:53pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2020 • 3:59:54pm

re: #469 bratwurst

Are you sure?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:00:07pm

re: #497 PhillyPretzel

Now we have more reasons to Go Greyhound. :)

Way ahead of you….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:00:08pm

re: #498 Blind Frog Belly White

Right above the comment box, there’s the title of the previous thread, and the number of comments:

And I thought, “Shouldn’t that be ‘Elizabeth Warren for President (46)?’”

I noticed that too. Nearly went back and added a comment to make that happen. :P

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:00:44pm

re: #501 GlutenFreeJesus

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Are you sure?

Ben Garrison’s truest love.

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:01:22pm
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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:04:17pm
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uriel  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:05:17pm

re: #498 Blind Frog Belly White

Right above the comment box, there’s the title of the previous thread, and the number of comments:

And I thought, “Shouldn’t that be ‘Elizabeth Warren for President (46)?’”

Fixed it for you!

re: #46 uriel

Just fixing something here.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:05:37pm

re: #505 gocart mozart

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Count von Count has no comment. Sorry am I missing something because I only see 10 counts listed.

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uriel  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:06:33pm

re: #505 gocart mozart

Good.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:06:49pm

re: #506 jaunte

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He also was openly sympathetic to the neo-fascist party over there. The CDU are actually conservative by German standards but Merkel isn’t a Trump loving fascist.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:07:13pm
“We’re the only country that gets in trouble for pushing ourselves forward.”
— Ric Grenell

Same infantile sense of being victimized that Trump expresses.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:07:30pm

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d personally love to see Warren take Trump to the woodshed in a debate.

Trump will never debate her.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:07:59pm

“Gets in trouble.”

JFC

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:08:05pm

re: #507 uriel

Fixed it for you!

Excellent!!

Now, NOBODY FUCK IT UP!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:09:07pm

re: #473 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The way they talk about Trump is just so creepy. Bannon got his wish though. The GOP is a Leninist party. We rightfully make fun of the Reagan worship but when Reagan was actually President, there was actually dissidents not the stupid Susan Collins gets concerned and then votes with Trump’s position anyhow.

Dad blew his stack when he saw my aunt at her prayer altar praying to Reagan because her preacher told her to…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:10:11pm

re: #511 jaunte

Same infantile sense of being victimized that Trump expresses.

Christ almighty, these people! They spend so much of their energy imagining themselves being victimized, and believing that they’re the ones who have been acting with restraint.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:10:15pm

re: #515 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dad blew his stack when he saw my aunt at her prayer altar praying to Reagan because her preacher told her to…

Yeah he was awful. A proto-Trump.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:10:42pm

re: #516 Blind Frog Belly White

“Look what you made me do!”

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:17:01pm

Ha:

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:17:38pm

re: #505 gocart mozart

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Who is that?

Edit: never mind.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:18:52pm

re: #519 Belafon

Ha:

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Shit I like Bloomberg just for how he’s going to troll the shit out of Trump the next nine months. Hopefully he puts up some billboards that show how Trump is nothing but a spoiled brat who is only rich because of his Daddy. I was shocked to learn a fair amount of Trumpists actually believe hs’s selfmade.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:19:58pm

re: #475 jaunte

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ALERT THE LOYALTY PROCTORS

That should be tagged with Trump’s handle.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:20:35pm

re: #521 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Shit I like Bloomberg just for how he’s going to troll the shit out of Trump the next nine months. Hopefully he puts up some billboards that show how Trump is nothing but a spoiled brat who is only rich because of his Daddy. I was shocked to learn a fair amount of Trumpists actually believe hs’s selfmade.

Oh fella it’s far more than a fair amount. Example—everyone of my brainwashed relatives believes Trump earned every penny via hard work!

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:23:15pm

Dusty wrote “OK Boomer” in Russian. Me, George “Boomer” Scott, for those who don’t get the reference.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:23:28pm

re: #523 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh fella it’s far more than a fair amount. Example—everyone of my brainwashed relatives believes Trump earned every penny via hard work!

When in fact he was born with a silver spoon up his ass.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:23:37pm

re: #523 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh fella it’s far more than a fair amount. Example—everyone of my brainwashed relatives believes Trump earned every penny via hard work!

I believe it. It’s absurd the cult of personality they’ve created around this guy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:24:14pm

We’re in for problems out here in the west:

Climate update to water year and outlook into March 2020

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:24:14pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:24:45pm

re: #524 gocart mozart

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Dusty wrote “OK Boomer” in Russian. Me, George “Boomer” Scott, for those who don’t get the reference.

Want to say he was Cecil Cooper’s predecessor and the 1B on the Impossible Dream Sox that took the AL flag from my Orioles and are actually given credit with for how the Red Sox became a more national team.

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:25:35pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:26:01pm

re: #526 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I believe it. It’s absurd the cult of personality they’ve created around this guy.

I really, really wonder sometimes. It’s like mass fucking hypnosis.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:27:20pm

re: #528 gocart mozart

Dunno, but I graduated from high school in 1975, when that prom pic was pretty much everybody’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:27:59pm

re: #531 Blind Frog Belly White

I really, really wonder sometimes. It’s like mass fucking hypnosis.

My youngest brother’s girlfriend comes from a Trump loving family. I heard some second hand stories. IT definitely rteminds me of what Joe has talked about.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:28:28pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:29:26pm

re: #528 gocart mozart

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plansbandc  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:29:38pm

re: #484 Eclectic Cyborg

Absolutely.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:29:50pm

re: #528 gocart mozart

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re: #528 gocart mozart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:31:31pm

re: #534 Dread Pirate

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Hey, More Socialism For The Rich!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:31:52pm

re: #535 Blind Frog Belly White

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BeachDem  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:32:55pm

re: #387 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

No idea but Biden did have a big role in overturning Reagan’s veto against sanctions in South Africa.

And much credit to the late Ron Dellums.

Working to end apartheid was one of Dellums’ primary legacies when he left a 27-year career in Congress in 1998. Dellums first introduced a sanctions bill in 1972…

The anti-apartheid movement in the United States was nascent in the early 1970s, but Dellums pushed for sanctions year after year. Success came in 1986, when the House passed Dellums’ legislation.

Then-President Ronald Reagan rejected a Senate version of the bill, but his veto was overridden. It was the first time in the 20th Century that Congress overrode a foreign-policy veto, according to Dellums’ office.

eastbaytimes.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:34:12pm

re: #540 BeachDem

And much credit to the late Ron Dellums.

Working to end apartheid was one of Dellums’ primary legacies when he left a 27-year career in Congress in 1998. Dellums first introduced a sanctions bill in 1972…

The anti-apartheid movement in the United States was nascent in the early 1970s, but Dellums pushed for sanctions year after year. Success came in 1986, when the House passed Dellums’ legislation.

Then-President Ronald Reagan rejected a Senate version of the bill, but his veto was overridden. It was the first time in the 20th Century that Congress overrode a foreign-policy veto, according to Dellums’ office.

eastbaytimes.com

Yep!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:34:26pm

re: #539 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:36:11pm

I wonder what it will really take for the American party to so reject the GOP that the party just crashes nationally, as it has here in California?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:36:21pm

re: #542 Blind Frog Belly White

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:37:07pm

re: #543 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder what it will really take for the American party to so reject the GOP that the party just crashes nationally, as it has here in California?

As long as we remain stupid, nothing.

That and Bibles, guns and God.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:39:55pm

re: #544 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:40:27pm

Looking at the San Diego county registration data, over the month of January, the changes are thus:

Dems +7k
GOP +2k
Undeclared -4k

The undeclared go down so people can identify with a party for primary season, I guess.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:42:26pm

re: #547 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If San Diego County has a closed primary yes.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:43:03pm

Over the past year, the local Democratic party is +45k, compared to the Republicans +4k.

I wonder how it is elsewhere?

And do all the polling algorithms that estimate national popularity get adjusted for the changing enrollments?

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gocart mozart  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:43:54pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:45:58pm

Over the past year, the local American Independent (Wallace racists) have actually grown more than the Republicans.

Don’t know what to make of that.

Total county registration is up only +27k. The Undeclared are way down, though they still outnumber the Republicans.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:46:37pm

re: #546 Blind Frog Belly White

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:51:10pm
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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:53:07pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:53:59pm
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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:54:56pm

“…instead of limiting the definition of off-limits government benefits to welfare payments and subsidized long-term institutionalization, the new policy would expand the definition to include a wider range of common government benefits:

All of the status quo benefits list above (SSI, TANF, general assistance, and long-term institutional care)
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), commonly knowns as “Food Stamps”
Section 8 housing and rental assistance
Federal housing subsidies
Nonemergency Medicaid benefits (with exceptions for children under 21, people with disabilities, pregnant women, and mothers within 60 days after giving birth)

A “public charge” denial would be triggered if someone has received one or more of the above public benefits, for more than 12 months in aggregate within any 36-month period. Receipt of two benefits in one month counts as two months.

(DHS will not penalize applicants for use of these benefits by a spouse or child, in a departure from previously reported drafts.)”

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:56:41pm

Don’t ask for food stamps, but if you’re a successful (uncaught) criminal you can stay.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:57:37pm

re: #557 jaunte

Like Melania. #BeBeast

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:59:09pm

re: #555 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I’m almost as excited to vote against Bernie at this point as Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 4:59:41pm

Bernie’s shitty response needs to be called out by every other candidate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:01:22pm

Hell at this point, I would say I’ve read more of the Mueller Report than Bernie has.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:09:14pm

Walsh is on fire these days. The emperor is bare-ass naked.

(Defectors are not always nice people but there are many good reasons to seek them out and give them all the encouragement we can.)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:13:23pm

re: #562 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Walsh is on fire these days. The emperor is bare-ass naked.

(Defectors are not always nice people but there are many good reasons to seek them out and give them all the encouragement we can.)

If we can have Stalin help us to defeat Hitler, we can have Joe Walsh against Trump.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:13:39pm

re: #562 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Walsh is on fire these days. The emperor is bare-ass naked.

(Defectors are not always nice people but there are many good reasons to seek them out and give them all the encouragement we can.)

The best I can offer is silence. They gave us this shit. Buyer’s remorse doesn’t cut it. Not for me at least.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:14:44pm

re: #564 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The best I can offer is silence. They gave us this shit. Buyer’s remorse doesn’t cut it. Not for me at least.

I’ll take his vote. Hell, we should even take his money if he’s so inclined. But I won’t take his policy prescriptions, nor support him for office.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:18:30pm

re: #565 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll take his vote. Hell, we should even take his money if he’s so inclined. But I won’t take his policy prescriptions, nor support him for office.

Exactly

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:18:45pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:22:28pm

re: #565 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll take his vote. Hell, we should even take his money if he’s so inclined. But I won’t take his policy prescriptions, nor support him for office.

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:25:38pm

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EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:25:50pm

re: #564 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The best I can offer is silence. They gave us this shit. Buyer’s remorse doesn’t cut it. Not for me at least.

Same here. What I need to see from a not-Trump Republican before believing in their sincerity is two things:

1) A clear admission that Trump is the perfection of movement conservatism, and that everything the left has said about the right for decades has basically been proven true.

2) Some evidence of a more general repudiation of the willful ignorance, gross stupidity, malice and bigotry that are so characteristic of Republicans, as opposed to merely despising Trump.

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EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:27:02pm

re: #568 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.

One big problem is that gushing all over the never-Trump or not-Trump Republicans feeds into the larger narrative that only Republicans are worth listening to.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:27:34pm

Who’s qualified for the SC Dem debate?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:27:36pm

re: #569 Belafon

“Democratic Shame Dungeon”? That must be in the nonexistent basement of Comet Pizza.

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Belafon  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:34:42pm

re: #573 Blind Frog Belly White

“Democratic Shame Dungeon”? That must be in the nonexistent basement of Comet Pizza.

Things I learned from Tucker:

Democratic shame dungeon.
Democrats are going to use censoring during the campaign.
Democrats are pushing the Russia hoax again.

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jaunte  Feb 21, 2020 • 5:39:14pm

re: #573 Blind Frog Belly White

Tucker’s Kink Memes: Nothing’s Too Weird For Our Chyron

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uriel  Feb 21, 2020 • 6:28:31pm

Nevermind.

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aatharuv  Feb 21, 2020 • 7:48:10pm

re: #551 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Over the past year, the local American Independent (Wallace racists) have actually grown more than the Republicans.

Don’t know what to make of that.

Total county registration is up only +27k. The Undeclared are way down, though they still outnumber the Republicans.

But isn’t that usually just people thinking they’re registering as independents? At least in California, most of the American Independent Party people seem to be people who would probably have put down No Party Preference, the California equivalent of Independent.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 22, 2020 • 7:58:30am

re: #506 jaunte

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Italy has gone to war with Germany!

(It’s on the internet now, so it must be true)


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