Richie Kotzen: “Raise the Cain”

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Richie Kotzen Lyrics to
‘Raise The Cain’

Far from wise
Let him blow
Hear his rhyme
He is Pinocchio
They slow our drive
Like Pinot Grigio
No sober minds
Leave our innocence to die

I wanna hear your voice raise the cain
I wanna hear your voice raise the cain tonight

In with the new
Out with the old
We say unite
But nature divides
So where do you go when you’re out of hope?
These broken lives
Leave our innocence to die

I wanna hear your voice raise the cain
I wanna hear your voice raise the cain tonight

I wanna hear your voice raise the cain
I wanna hear your voice raise the cain for life
I believe in us that’s why I’m raising the cain
I believe in life we’re raising our cain

Richie Kotzen- Guitars-Bass Guitar- Lead and Background Vocals
Mike Portnoy- Drums-Percussion-Background Vocals
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249 comments
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:52:14pm

Make sure a friend votes.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:07:55pm

Epidemiology question: if the Obama administration had reacted to the swine flu the way Trump has reacted to Covid, how many people might have died?

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:16:03pm
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:19:36pm

re: #1 BlueSpotinAL

Make sure a friend votes.

Depending on the friend…

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:21:16pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:27:51pm

re: #5 Belafon

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Well shit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:55:41pm

re: #113 Belafon

Have you ever noticed that people will like the first version of a song they hear, even if it wasn’t the original performance.

Left behind on the previous thread (3:36)

Bananarama - Venus (Official Video)

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:57:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:59:45pm

re: #113 Belafon

Have you ever noticed that people will like the first version of a song they hear, even if it wasn’t the original performance.

(2:53)

Nick Lowe - “Cruel To Be Kind (Original Version)” (Official Audio)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:02:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:04:04pm

re: #1 BlueSpotinAL

Make sure a friend votes.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:06:05pm

Saw Josh Marshall’s remarks posted downstairs and I’m split on this, mostly because I feel he has a point but it’s one that’s sort of lost in the reality of the situation. I agree that no Senate Dems should meet with Barrett, should not even given the appearance that they are considering her nomination at all. But Senate Repubs are looking for an excuse, any excuse at this point, to cancel the politically bruising spectacle of hearings and just jump straight to the voting. And as it stands right now, they have the votes on paper to confirm her Nov 3rd. And the base needs to some measure of resistance, some effort to bring this process to a crawl if not a complete halt, before then.

So go forward with the hearings, use the opportunity to put both her extremism and their hypocrisy on display, show up for the debate before the vote, and then make a very public display of walking out the moment the vote begins. Don’t stick around to vote “nay,” just get up, grab your things, and walk out the door.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:10:05pm

This will bring California wildfire smoke back into the Nebraska Panhandle.

For the last day, we’ve had northeast winds which cleared out the Colorado wildfire smoke.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:12:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:15:51pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:26:16pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Saw Josh Marshall’s remarks posted downstairs and I’m split on this, mostly because I feel he has a point but it’s one that’s sort of lost in the reality of the situation. I agree that no Senate Dems should meet with Barrett, should not even given the appearance that they are considering her nomination at all. But Senate Repubs are looking for an excuse, any excuse at this point, to cancel the politically bruising spectacle of hearings and just jump straight to the voting. And as it stands right now, they have the votes on paper to confirm her Nov 3rd. And the base needs to some measure of resistance, some effort to bring this process to a crawl if not a complete halt, before then.

So go forward with the hearings, use the opportunity to put both her extremism and their hypocrisy on display, show up for the debate before the vote, and then make a very public display of walking out the moment the vote begins. Don’t stick around to vote “nay,” just get up, grab your things, and walk out the door.

Having Democrats meet with Barrett will take time, so that alone makes it worth considering.

Personally, I don’t see the point in walking out. Worst case it would allow the vulnerable Republicans to vote against the nomination in greater numbers and still have it pass. IMO the farce has to be played out to the bitter end, hopefully with every D senator voting against the nomination.

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piratedan  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:30:45pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

well… that was the original, whereas as Bananarama was covering Shocking Blue… unsure why you picked out Nick Lowe there…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:34:48pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

Make her wait in the lobby

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:37:28pm

re: #18 Dave In Austin

Make her wait in the lobby

The best suggestion I’ve seen is “Shouldn’t we be talking to your husband about his legal views, since it would appear he does your thinking for you?”

But that’s too rude for a Democrat to get away with.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:39:35pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey Rubio,
These faithful Catholics call BS.
Sister Simone Campbell said “If Senator McConnell and President Trump think that pushing this through will help them win Catholic votes, then they don’t know Catholics. Unlike these politicians focused on taking power at all costs, we love our country more than political power. We Catholics will vote for integrity, justice, and the common good.”
Read more: networklobby.org

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:42:03pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Left behind on the previous thread (3:36)

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Their Hellfire mix…

BANANARAMA - Venus (12” hellfire mix)

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piratedan  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:44:01pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

to be fair, the GOP is gonna be the GOP and they’re gonna spin this how they’re gonna spin this no matter what, their allies in the media already have their talking points and I can see why Marshall is saying what he is saying… my issue with that is, how is that played by the media?

Does he honestly expect the media to report the nuance of the point he’s trying to make? Does he really think that CNN will state that Dems are not participating in the freak show because of the illegitimacy of the process?

sorry, after witnessing the reporting of the last election and even this election, I think you STILL have to show up and you STILL have to put down your marker.

You STILL put her hypocrisy on the record…
You get her to say out loud and for the record how she feels about…

abortion
voting/civil rights
immigration status
naturalization
labor rights
health care
social security
Medicare
LGBTQ rights
peaceful protest
police immunity

get her ass on the record, so EVERYONE KNOWS that THIS is what the GOP sees as a valid jurist.

No illusions
No recriminations
No one has to even raise their voice… just let her say what she’s gonna say and if it’s different from what she’s said in the past, you simply point out that its inconsistent with what she’s said before and then politely ask why she’s changed

she can start with why she thought Merrick Garland didn’t deserve a vote/hearing in the Senate and why she does?

Don’t even ask her about her religion, because frankly no one gives a shit

The optics of not participating are not going to be interpreted by most Americans in the way that a lot of us political junkies think it might be because the people filtering that act, framing that narrative are NOT going to present it faithfully, I can almost guarantee that.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:54:42pm

re: #22 piratedan

One question that must be on the list is asking her if she will recuse herself from any law suit relating to the presidential election of 2020.

If the answer is “no”, pound her on the obvious conflict of interest.

If “yes” it’s a GOP lie that is likely to be so spectacularly violated that it might make a dent in the Great Both-Siderist Lie of the media.

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:56:40pm

I really want the Senators to grill her about her views on the “illegitimate” 14th and 15th Amendment and “illegitimate” West Virginia. I know it’s a practice among law profs to stake out weird-ass positions to make names for themselves, but now that she’s being considered for the Supreme Court, she has to say on the record if she accepts these Amendments (and West Virginia’s validity). The 14th Amendment particularly concerns me, since it was that Amendment that grants citizenship to freed slaves and others.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:00:47pm

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Hmm. I can’t upload a GIF here over 500k in size.

We’ll do this.

giphy.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:11:08pm

re: #24 mmmirele

I really want the Senators to grill her about her views on the “illegitimate” 14th and 15th Amendment and “illegitimate” West Virginia. I know it’s a practice among law profs to stake out weird-ass positions to make names for themselves, but now that she’s being considered for the Supreme Court, she has to say on the record if she accepts these Amendments (and West Virginia’s validity). The 14th Amendment particularly concerns me, since it was that Amendment that grants citizenship to freed slaves and others.

Attacking the 14th amendment is part of the larger Nativist drive in the GOP, having that Nazi in the White House Stephen Miller as one of its leaders.

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:14:39pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

Attacking the 14th amendment is part of the larger Nativist drive in the GOP, having that Nazi in the White House Stephen Miller as one of its leaders.

Yeah, I think that’s how ACB came to Trump’s attention.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:16:38pm

re: #27 mmmirele

Yeah, I think that’s how ACB came to Trump’s attention.

Attacking the 14th and 15th amendments is also a favorite pastime of Confederate lost causers. The transformation of the party of Lincoln to the party of Jeff Davis proceeds apace.

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ericblair  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:18:20pm

re: #24 mmmirele

I really want the Senators to grill her about her views on the “illegitimate” 14th and 15th Amendment and “illegitimate” West Virginia. I know it’s a practice among law profs to stake out weird-ass positions to make names for themselves, but now that she’s being considered for the Supreme Court, she has to say on the record if she accepts these Amendments (and West Virginia’s validity). The 14th Amendment particularly concerns me, since it was that Amendment that grants citizenship to freed slaves and others.

Yes. I mean, what the fucking fuck does that mean? Does Kamala Harris ask her whether she thinks African Americans should be citizens of the United States?

Also, if the Dems make her lose her cool she’s got a problem. Justice Boofy McRapey can get mad and whiny because he has a penis. Not her.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:23:34pm

re: #29 ericblair

Yes. I mean, what the fucking fuck does that mean? Does Kamala Harris ask her whether she thinks African Americans should be citizens of the United States?

Also, if the Dems make her lose her cool she’s got a problem. Justice Boofy McRapey can get mad and whiny because he has a penis. Not her.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of every Democrat on the Judiciary committee giving their time to Kamala Harris, with the plan of devoting at least half of that extended block of time to the 14th and 15th amendments.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:24:39pm

re: #23 EPR-radar

One question that must be on the list is asking her if she will recuse herself from any law suit relating to the presidential election of 2020.

If the answer is “no”, pound her on the obvious conflict of interest.

If “yes” it’s a GOP lie that is likely to be so spectacularly violated that it might make a dent in the Great Both-SIderist Lie of the media.

This actually should follow the video of her remarks from 2016.

“Before I ask my questions, I’d like to direct your attention to some remarks you made 4 years ago.”

*play clip of her remarks on Garland nomination*

“Now, having refreshed your memories as well as those of my colleagues, the question I’d like to ask you is what has changed in the 4 years since those remarks? We’re less than a month from the election, not 8 months as was the case with Merrick Garland’s nomination. And the justice you would be replacing was one of the most liberal voices on the bench, so it’s fair to say that your appointment to her seat would ‘dramatically flip the balance of power on the court.’ So, again, what has changed?”

*cue mealy-mouthed excuse-making*

“Alright, Judge Barrett, my time is limited. So I’m going to get to the point: Would you be willing today to sign a pledge to recuse yourself from any cases brought before the Supreme Court in the coming months that involve the upcoming election or the results thereof? Normally in these circumstances a simply voice pledge might suffice, but your presence here proves that we cannot take you at your word. So, again, are you willing to sign that pledge?”

*rambling excuse-making that amount to “no”*

“Alright, we I think I and the American people got our answer about why you’re here today and why my colleagues across the aisle are so eager to get you on the bench before November 3rd.”

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:27:54pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

This is perfect. You should consider forwarding it to a Judiciary committee D Senator.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:31:47pm

re: #32 EPR-radar

This is perfect. You should consider forwarding it to a Judiciary committee D Senator.

I may very well do that.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:41:16pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:43:04pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

I may very well do that.

If you go forward with that, maybe propose to Charles to make this a new kind of front page post, with an invitation to us all to ping our Senators about it, and/or Judiciary committee Democrats.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 26, 2020 • 11:58:18pm

.

Alice in Wonderland by Nahre Sol (original)

..

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:08:33am

Short thread

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:08:38am

I hope nobody wasted time accusing this woman of having principles:

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:17:38am

re: #33 Targetpractice

I may very well do that.

Both of my senators sit on the judiciary committee, and I intend to use some of the discussions here when I contact them, so unless one of your senators is also a member, you might want to leave it to me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:23:16am

re: #28 EPR-radar

Attacking the 14th and 15th amendments is also a favorite pastime of Confederate lost causers. The transformation of the party of Lincoln to the party of Jeff Davis proceeds apace.

It is also the cause of sovereign citizen nutbars.

As for the idea of conservatives wanting to find a way to overturn those amendments, they’ve been after them all my life. In the event they did, I would no longer be a citizen. That’s also why they want to revive the 1924 Immigration Act.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:26:18am

re: #39 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Both of my senators sit on the judiciary committee, and I intend to use some of the discussions here when I contact them, so unless one of your senators is also a member, you might want to leave it to me.

Yeah, I was just about to remark that both my senators (Warner & Kaine) sit on other committees, so it might work better for someone who have a Dem senator on that committee to send the remarks.

Plus, I’m such an undiplomatic asshole that I’d be compelled to put this in the margin:

“I want to take a sec to bring to your attention that you and your colleagues in the Democratic caucus need to get on the same page and quickly. McConnell is pressing forward with this nomination because he does not fear any sort of negative consequences that will last longer than the time it takes to get to 2022. The comments from others in the party dismissing abolishing the filibuster or expanding the SCOTUS bench in response to the ramming through of this nomination is only emboldening Mitch while depressing your own base. You are way past ‘strongly-worded letters’ and appealing to the better nature of Republicans by this point.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:27:46am

re: #34 teleskiguy

That’s precisely the way religions work. That is one of the reasons I call conservatism a religion. Both use such a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:30:44am

re: #39 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Both of my senators sit on the judiciary committee, and I intend to use some of the discussions here when I contact them, so unless one of your senators is also a member, you might want to leave it to me.

Yay, Sen. Ben Sasse is on the Judiciary Committee. He has my telephone on “reject upon call” and my mail on “shred before reading.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:19:15am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:21:13am

I’m here by myself so I’ll keep going.

This is a hilarious Twitter thread.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:26:04am

As we blow past Episode #775 of “Dark Shadows” while staying holed up at home until all the covidiots do each other in, I think I finally figured out the secret behind Senator Susan Collins.

Downeast Maine has been chock full of vampires, werewolves, ghosts, witches, zombies, time travellers, The Phoenix, evil spirits, corrupt preachers; all of whom are associated with or members of the Collins Family, going all the way back to 1795.

Perhaps the issue here is the senator is related to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:29:36am

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today the assault may be on Catholicism.

But tomorrow, no religion will be safe from the same attacks

And then the message will be clear,if you want to serve in public office,especially on the highest court in the land,only those willing to hide or deny their faith need apply.

Because opposing their SCOTUS nominee makes you anti-Catholic, anti-women, anti-motherhood and in the end ANTI-AMERICAN!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:32:43am

re: #27 mmmirele

Yeah, I think that’s how ACB came to Trump’s attention.

Of course, do you think he knows or cares about any women he does not want to fuck?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:39:33am

Local fires impacting our air quality:

inciweb.nwcg.gov

The Mullen Fire (in Colorado north of Rocky Mountain National Park, 68,138 acres burned, 2% contained)

The Cameron Peak Fire (north of Denver, 120,251 acres burned, 25% contained)

The Middle Fork Fire (west of Rocky Mountain National Park, 7,499 acres burned, 0% contained)

The Williams Fork Post-Fire (south of Rocky Mountain National Park, 12,420 acres burned, 15% contained)

The Sarpy Fire (southeast Montana, 52,010 acres burned, contained)

The whole damn High Plains is on fire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:45:22am

Who has “Brain Eating Bacteria” on their 2020 Apocaplypse card?

Brain-eating microbe: US city warned over water supply

Residents of Lake Jackson, Texas, have been warned about using tap water after a deadly brain-eating microbe was found in the city’s public water supply.

Tests confirmed the presence of Naegleria fowleri in the system. The amoeba can cause an infection of the brain, which is usually fatal.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:47:54am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who has “Brain Eating Bacteria” on their 2020 Apocaplypse card?

Very clever: Republicans are obviously immune to its effects, so they’ll win the election and we’re DOOOOMED

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:52:27am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who has “Brain Eating Bacteria” on their 2020 Apocaplypse card?

Brain-eating microbe: US city warned over water supply

Residents of Lake Jackson, Texas, have been warned about using tap water after a deadly brain-eating microbe was found in the city’s public water supply.

Tests confirmed the presence of Naegleria fowleri in the system. The amoeba can cause an infection of the brain, which is usually fatal.

It’s an eye-catching headline, but really the biggest worry for folks in those areas considered “at-risk” is getting water up your nose. Drinking the water is (AFAIK) safe, or at least doesn’t carry the risk of a brain infection. So the safest course would be to wear a nose-clip if you’re doing anything where water will cover your head (swimming, bathing, etc).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:54:58am

re: #52 Targetpractice

It’s an eye-catching headline, but really the biggest worry for folks in those areas considered “at-risk” is getting water up your nose. Drinking the water is (AFAIK) safe, or at least doesn’t carry the risk of a brain infection. So the safest course would be to wear a nose-clip if you’re doing anything where water will cover your head (swimming, bathing, etc).

what about all the coke heads rinsing out their nostrils at the end of a long binge?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:56:03am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because It’s 2020. That’s Why. (Goes to Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon)

I wake up this morning, take a shower and brush my teeth, fix my coffee and then see this —

Brain. Eating. Amoeba. That’s sooooo 2020.

It’s all around me but I am blessed to sit on a little island among brain eating amoeba in a city, only because it’s been here forever, that has its own water supply.

This morning Epp wrote me that she’s not a religious person but if Bidens wins she’s going to light a candle in a church, any church. I’ll join in that soul of sacrifice to the gods. If Biden wins, I will put a light-up plastic nativity scene in my front yard for Christmas.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:57:05am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what about all the coke heads rinsing out their nostrils at the end of a long binge?

Only danger there is the poor amoeba starving due to lack of food.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:59:37am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This morning Epp wrote me that she’s not a religious person but if Bidens wins she’s going to light a candle in a church, any church. I’ll join in that soul of sacrifice to the gods. If Biden wins, I will put a light-up plastic nativity scene in my front yard for Christmas.

I have a Virgen de Guadalupe votive candle. I keep one ever since the Intercession of the Holy Virgin helped repair my AC unit at the ranch I was caretaking in Sedona, AZ (long story there involving a scam by a the previous gay caretaker couple who later joined the Bhagwan cult)

I will light her in honor.

But right now, I am depressed as hell and see this disaster barreling right down on us. Trump has already telegraphed what he is going to do: challenge any results that do not favor him and take this to the SCOTUS, who will rule in his favor.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:05:23am

Have I ever mentioned how much fun it is to deal with a bunch of drunks on a Saturday night?

That you get all the fun of a single belligerent asshole, then dial it to 11 because as bad as that one asshole may be, his buddies will be there to egg him on to even greater levels of stupidity?

Especially if the head drunk is also the center of some celebration, so by telling them to (say…) quiet the fuck down because they’re disturbing others at o’dark thirty, they take it as an insult and only crank up the stupidity further?

And the only way you might avoid needing to call the cops on their asses is because one of them hasn’t yet reached the legal BAL for the night and is rational enough to try to be diplomatic, rather than suggesting that the leader kick your ass?

No? Huh, must just be me then…//////

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:05:38am

re: #51 ericblair

Very clever: Republicans are obviously immune to its effects, so they’ll win the election and we’re DOOOOMED

The microbes can’t eat what doesn’t exist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:08:38am

re: #57 Targetpractice

Have I ever mentioned how much fun it is to deal with a bunch of drunks on a Saturday night?

There is nothing more annoying than being the only sober person in a room full of drunks…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:12:29am

re: #52 Targetpractice

It’s an eye-catching headline, but really the biggest worry for folks in those areas considered “at-risk” is getting water up your nose. Drinking the water is (AFAIK) safe, or at least doesn’t carry the risk of a brain infection. So the safest course would be to wear a nose-clip if you’re doing anything where water will cover your head (swimming, bathing, etc).

The issue for a water supply system [wateroperatorhat] is that it thrives in warm fresh water, particularly if there is bacteria (which the amoeba feeds on). It gets into homes and survives in places of pooled water, water heaters, cisterns, &c. The amoeba particularly does well in very warm water (hence water heaters).

While drinking the water is fatal to the amoeba (due to stomach acid), the water can be aerosolised (by turning on a tap or flushing a toilet), or accidentally snorted up the nose (such as a hiccough or choking during drinking).

The disease if it enters the brain is universally fatal; thus it is one of the things tested for in water suppliles. [/wateroperatorhat]

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:16:02am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The issue for a water supply system [wateroperatorhat] is that it thrives in warm fresh water, particularly if there is bacteria (which the amoeba feeds on). It gets into homes and survives in places of pooled water, water heaters, cisterns, &c. The amoeba particularly does well in very warm water (hence water heaters).

While drinking the water is fatal to the amoeba (due to stomach acid), the water can be aerosolised (by turning on a tap or flushing a toilet), or accidentally snorted up the nose (such as a hiccough or choking during drinking).

The disease if it enters the brain is universally fatal; thus it is one of the things tested for in water suppliles. [/wateroperatorhat]

I bow to your wisdom, good sir.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:43:19am

re: #61 Targetpractice

I bow to your wisdom, good sir.

Hardly wisdom, I just paid attention in class.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:45:10am

My view is that all this stuff needs to be hammered by surrogates way before the hearings, and make Barrett play defense. Also make sure everybody knows that she was part of a sect that had Handmaidens, for shit’s sake. You use the hearings to back her into corners and hopefully clearly perjure herself.

And, inshallah we win the trifecta, expand the Court. Expand it to 15, write laws on random allocation of judges to cases and eliminate gaming the system. Make the crowning achievement of the Republican party useless, and Barrett can yell into the void until she decides to pack it in.

I’ve lived in several countries and no other have any reason for J Random Citizen to know who the Supreme Court/Constitutional Court justices are, because it’s legal inside baseball. There’s no need to know, and the only time you even see them is in the middle of a constitutional change or constitutional crisis. We can’t have an ever more liberal, ever more diverse, ever more modern country under the dictatorship of a council of clerics. For all the hating on Iran, the Republicans sure as shit like their government.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:51:33am

US election 2020: Who will be the next president? (BBC interactive political game)

The BBC currently has the fixed electoral votes at Biden 233, Trump 188. They suggest a number of states they consider swingy along with the issues present in those states. You pick each state for one candidate or the other to yield a result for the overall election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:54:57am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

US election 2020: Who will be the next president? (BBC interactive political game)

The BBC currently has the fixed electoral votes at Biden 233, Trump 188. They suggest a number of states they consider swingy along with the issues present in those states. You pick each state for one candidate or the other to yield a result for the overall election.

wishful thinking to assume that either the popular or the electoral vote is going to decide the outcome of this unprecedented clusterfuck of an election.

again again again

trump is a criminal

he is backed by criminal organizations (his family company and the RNC)

and a meddling foreign government

and he has the full powers of the Executive Branch at his disposal this time around

and he knows what fate awaits him when he loses Executive Immunity

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:11:36am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, the election is not an unprecedented clusterfuque (1860).

Also the shyteshow when Washington retired and the election went to Adams and Jefferson (1800).

Also the end of the Era of Good Feelings when the Democratic-Republican Party fell apart as the election was thrown into the House by competing factions, electing JQ Adams. The alleged stab-in-the-back by Henry Clay caused Andrew Jackson to found the Democratic Party.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:38:39am

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do with a statement like “it will be an unprecedented clusterfuck and they’ll steal it somehow”. How are they going to do it? How are they going to get enough electoral votes in close states to the Supreme Court to throw the election that way? How many close states are Republican legislatures and governors and Supreme Courts (I think FL and TX)? Any Dem in the chain is going to throw sand in the gears of a stolen election.

How are enough balloting precincts going to be shut down, if the Dems are outright leading in the suburbs too and a huge number are voting early or by mail? Fucking with the mail has made Dems paranoid about banking their votes early, and discouraged goopers from voting by mail and therefore maybe voting at all; how is that actually helping them? We’re already able to monitor mail-in returns, and Dems look like they’re doing substantially better than expected (a good resource here).

Every Dem I know is paranoid about this election in a way that is totally, utterly unlike 2016. The whole public discussion of the election is about how Biden is significantly ahead and how the Republicans are trying to steal it. Third parties are essentially dead. I don’t think complacency or optimism are problems here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:46:30am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, the election is not an unprecedented clusterfuque (1860).

Trump is already planning in advance to totally ignore the election results as a scam and let things be decided by his freshly-packed courts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:56:31am

re: #67 ericblair

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do with a statement like “it will be an unprecedented clusterfuck and they’ll steal it somehow”.

Trump CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE

He has criminal organizations and the Executive Branch on his side, he is not going to shy away from anything to try to keep from losing.

Our electoral system is not set up to deal with just massive evil-minded fuckery: it has always been rather loosely regulated based on mutual trust and good will.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:07:12am

re: #67 ericblair

…Every Dem I know is paranoid about this election in a way that is totally, utterly unlike 2016. The whole public discussion of the election is about how Biden is significantly ahead and how the Republicans are trying to steal it. Third parties are essentially dead. I don’t think complacency or optimism are problems here.

Good. There are environments to which a tot of paranoia is the best adaptation. Look at the runup to the 2016 election, and tell yourself “Never again.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:21:28am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Good. There are environments for which a tot of paranoia is the best adaptation. Look at the runup to the 2016 election, and tell yourself “Never again.”

Trump was able to game the system: he counted on apathy, indifference to suppress a lot of the vote against him and third-party purists to deflect a bit more.

Now he has too many people riled up, he knows he has to lean a lot harder to pull out a win, but this time he has a lot more resources at his disposal.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:23:35am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump was able to game the system: he counted on apathy, indifference to suppress a lot of the vote against him and third-party purists to deflect a bit more.

Now he has too many people riled up, he knows he has to lean a lot harder to pull out a win, but this time he has a lot more resources at his disposal.

For the rest of my life I will have one approach to any Republican politician—Massive Overkill.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:26:43am

re: #72 Decatur Deb

For the rest of my life I will have one approach to any Republican politician—Massive Overkill.

And assuming the most base motives and total lack of ethics or values beyond what it takes for them to win.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:38:38am

In the mundane realm, Wife flies into Pensacola today and I have a 6-hour drive to pick her up. My little squad of cast-off roombas has been cleaning for an hour, and I’ve got the kitchen, laundry, and bedroom restored. Lawnmower guy came and went recently, and the only sign of her two-month coronavirus evacuation is a huge pile of mail, mostly junk.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:04:55am

This is the environment which we must overcome:

Trump has spent a year building a legal network to fight the election
politico.com

If our turnout isn’t overwhelming, we can “win” the polls, win the vote, and the bastards will still steal the country. We are two points behind where we need to be, and the futures of the planet and all its people are on the table.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:17:24am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

In positive signs elsewhere:

Switzerland firmly rejects end of free movement with EU - projection (BBC, twenty minutes ago)

The referendum in Switzerland to end free movement between it and the European Union has failed.

Swiss voters have rejected in a referendum a proposal to end an accord with the EU on the free movement of people, TV projections suggest.

Broadcaster SRF said voters were set to reject the plan by 63% to 37%.

Ballots are still being counted, and final results are due within hours.

Switzerland is not a member of the EU, but currently accepts free movement so that it can have access to free trade and co-operate with Brussels in areas like transport and education.

The proposal came from the right-wing Swiss People’s Party (SVP), and was a successor to a 2014 referendum to introduce quotas on immigrants from the EU, which narrowly passed.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:30:20am

Conservatism is pretty much the same everywhere.

bbc.com
The Culture Minister of the Tories argues that universities must open, because students cannot lose a year over coronavirus, and infections are inevitable.

In Ontario, it turns out when you cut inspections of nursing homes, you find fewer violations. CBC Marketplace found that when Premier Doug Ford’s government cut inspections in 2018, 68% fewer infection control violations were found, leaving homes vulnerable to Covid-19.
cbc.ca

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:39:34am

Good morning!

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:00:19am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:05:05am

On the Covid-19 front in the Nebraska Panhandle, there are now only three towns with no cases: mine (pop 128), Lisco (64), and Llewellyn (224).

Strictly, Angora doesn’t have any either (pop 1).

pphd.org

PPHD has moved the risk level further up the “moderate” scale toward “high” for all towns except those three and three others where there were cases but none now.

Total 854 (+5), deaths 9 (no change)
Most cases: Age 20-29
Cumulative positivity rate: 6.1%, weekly rate 18.1% (sux)
In hospital: 3
Women and girls remain 2/3 of cases

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:13:24am

OFFS. I can’t link it from my phone but there is a godawful op ed on Politico right now titled: Amy Coney Barrett: a new feminist icon.

See kids, abortion is bad because it lets men off the hook. But if we look at Barrett’s stance, why it makes men take responsibility in coparenting. The author also says the Barretts have worked together to raise their kids despite having busy careers and right now her husband is doing most of the home stuff so she can move her career forward. No mention of nannies and sitters and housekeepers and the fucking money needed to afford them. They did mention the aunt who provided free child care for a decade.Yeah, she’s a feminist as much as Melania Trump is.

I can no longer even with this bullshit.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:19:20am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

For MN, The WaPo had this chart this morning. Every state that borders MN is on the list. Thank you stupid governors or (in the case of WI) jerry-rigged legislatures and corrupt courts.

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:19:42am

This might be a legitimately huge celeb endorsement for the team.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:21:02am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE

He has criminal organizations and the Executive Branch on his side, he is not going to shy away from anything to try to keep from losing.

Our electoral system is not set up to deal with just massive evil-minded fuckery: it has always been rather loosely regulated based on mutual trust and good will.

Hitler could not afford to lose. The Confederacy could not afford to lose. AL Capone could not afford to lose. Yes, they all had lots of tools to help them, and they lost.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:25:48am

re: #83 Citizen K

He’s seen as a reasonable, friendly alpha male. And he’s still a character in wrestling.

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:28:03am

[Sauce]

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:28:12am

re: #5 Belafon

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nwa fuck the police hq

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:31:24am

re: #83 Citizen K

He’s going to need three full time staffers just to delete the hate mail he’s going to get because of this.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:31:29am

re: #84 Belafon

A light for me is how many people have voted already in this election cycle vs how many had voted by this point in 2016. People are pissed and energized. We just have to keep pushing and help people get to the polls, explain the process if they have questions and keep fighting after the election for the changes needed.

One good thing about Trump being who he is is that his election demonstrates the absolute need of citizens to be civically involved beyond election season. Democrats really need to pound on that point. It’s our job.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:33:51am

re: #81 A Mom Anon

Feminist icon, as long as your husband and church let you be.

Tiger Beat on the Potomac strikes again.

Amy Coney Barrett: A New Feminist Icon

Erika Bachiochi is a pro-life feminist legal scholar and fellow of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Her BA is from Middlebury College, her MA in Theology as a Bradley Fellow at the Institute for the Study of Politics and Religion at Boston College, and she received a law degree from Boston University School of Law. She has edited Women, Sex & the Church: A Case for Catholic Teaching and The Cost of Choice: Women Evaluate the Impact of Abortion

(that’s everything Wikipedia has on her)

What is a “pro-life feminist?” The article was created about her on 15 Jan 2018.

Her bio at the organisation which she works for is here.
eppc.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:36:10am

re: #84 Belafon

Hitler could not afford to lose. The Confederacy could not afford to lose. AL Capone could not afford to lose. Yes, they all had lots of tools to help them, and they lost.

A commentator at Stonekettle Station on Mr. Wright’s latest article:

What we need to do is foster hope for the future, AND to do our part to resist what is going on - for which hope for the future helps, not this airy-fairy idea of “oh it’ll just work out” but rather the idea that resistance might actually be effective and that we still have a chance. This means NOT implying votes are pointless, NOT demoralizing protesters, and NOT hinting to people who have suffered mental health crises that the writing is on the wall anyway so they may as well lay down and die. Rather, acknowledge the grim reality, assure people they are not crazy - and don’t spread abject despair and the idea that we already lost at the same time.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:37:42am

Looks like the yam is helping out the Democratic media strategy. Yes, the crazy lady is hell-bent on overturning Roe vs. Wade, just like we told you.

Apparently the polling crosstabs are showing that Democratic voters are 15% more likely to be energized because of the Supreme Court than they were in 2016, and it now exceeds the figure for Republicans. This is a net Democratic energizer now.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:41:51am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanks for putting up the link for this crap, lol. Let’s see how long it will take for this shit to begin hitting mainstream media outlets as a warped apologia.

I have known two women, both Republicans, both younger than me by at least a decade, who were able to advance their careers, go to college and raise a total of 4 daughters because they both had moms who retired and took care of their kids so they could work and go to school. Meanwhile, women like me had none of that but I am the failure for not going to school, working and raising a kid at the same time. And neither of these women understand that not everyone’s family is loving and close. Nor do they understand the cost of child care, especially specialized daycare. I’m tired of this crap.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:42:15am

re: #92 ericblair

The Supreme Court could possibly overturn Roe by calling it a bad decision. But they can’t overturn an abortion law unless they are going to invent rights for fetuses, and i have a ton of environmental law ideas that we can pass if they try to do that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:44:28am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

This is the environment which we must overcome:

Trump has spent a year building a legal network to fight the election
politico.com

If our turnout isn’t overwhelming, we can “win” the polls, win the vote, and the bastards will still steal the country. We are two points behind where we need to be, and the futures of the planet and all its people are on the table.

That is the point I have been making. He has a lot of resources at his disposal as Prez that he did not have in 2016.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:46:13am

re: #84 Belafon

Hitler could not afford to lose. The Confederacy could not afford to lose. AL Capone could not afford to lose. Yes, they all had lots of tools to help them, and they lost.

Hitler was in power for 12 years and did a lot of damage before he went down. Likewise the Confederacy for four years and Al Capone probably did more damage than he ever repaid by being imprisoned.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:46:40am

re: #2 Belafon

Epidemiology question: if the Obama administration had reacted to the swine flu the way Trump has reacted to Covid, how many people might have died?

Obama would have because Republicans would have tried and hanged him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:46:52am

re: #94 Belafon

The Supreme Court could possibly overturn Roe by calling it a bad decision. But they can’t overturn an abortion law unless they are going to invent rights for fetuses, and i have a ton of environmental law ideas that we can pass if they try to do that.

Plus the Supreme Court doesn’t create laws. There are several states with tripwire anti-abortion laws in place should Roe be struck down, but the court cannot outlaw legal abortion in states where they don’t have such laws (or they have state constitutional protections).

For that, separate cases would need to be brought to strike down legal abortion outside of the framework of Roe, or federal legislation prohibiting it nationwide (which would die in the US House).

That doesn’t take us back to 1973 (where there were fewer places than there are today where states support women’s reproductive rights).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:47:45am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hitler was in power for 12 years and did a lot of damage before he went down. Likewise the Confederacy for four years and Al Capone probably did more damage than he ever repaid by being imprisoned.

I am just trying to point out that Trump is likely to resort to desperate, illegal and extreme measures to cling to power, more for his own sake than for the GOP.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:48:32am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the point I have been making. He has a lot of resources at his disposal as Prez that he did not have in 2016.

He also has 200,000 corpses, the ire of veteran “losers and suckers,” the elderly who should be sacrificed on the altar of capitalism, &c.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:52:53am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He also has 200,000 corpses, the ire of veteran “losers and suckers,” the elderly who should be sacrificed on the altar of capitalism, &c.

Yes, he cannot count on people being cynical, indifferent or apathetic about him, and there are no third-party challengers of note to siphon off votes, guaranteeing him an EC victory despite losing the popular vote.
This time he knows for certain that he will lose the popular vote, probably by an even larger margin.
But he is already telling us that he is going to everything he can to challenge any results that do not tally up in his favor and try to get the decision moved out of the EC into the courts.

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:53:45am

re: #67 ericblair

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do with a statement like “it will be an unprecedented clusterfuck and they’ll steal it somehow”. How are they going to do it? How are they going to get enough electoral votes in close states to the Supreme Court to throw the election that way? How many close states are Republican legislatures and governors and Supreme Courts (I think FL and TX)? Any Dem in the chain is going to throw sand in the gears of a stolen election.

How are enough balloting precincts going to be shut down, if the Dems are outright leading in the suburbs too and a huge number are voting early or by mail? Fucking with the mail has made Dems paranoid about banking their votes early, and discouraged goopers from voting by mail and therefore maybe voting at all; how is that actually helping them? We’re already able to monitor mail-in returns, and Dems look like they’re doing substantially better than expected (a good resource here).

Every Dem I know is paranoid about this election in a way that is totally, utterly unlike 2016. The whole public discussion of the election is about how Biden is significantly ahead and how the Republicans are trying to steal it. Third parties are essentially dead. I don’t think complacency or optimism are problems here.

The answer, I suspect, is that they will simply pretend the results are invalid and that Republicans actually won. There will be some conspiracy theory-type nonsense about how 50k votes here in PA are invalid, or a basket of Trump votes in WI was thrown away, or someone saw a black antifa truck next to a polling booth in Florida or something. In the end, the election won’t be stolen by judges or faithless electors or anything like that. It will be decided the same way so many major issues are decided - by mainstream American media companies pretending that made-up Republican issues are real.

If CNN and the like spend the weeks following the election bringing Republicans on to state that we can’t trust these election results, and what about this judge here in Florida that said something about a minor fraud issue, and what about that story that FOX said where Democrats were bringing in trucks of illegals to vote, the American people will believe the election is fraudulent. They will believe that any Democrat win is ‘controversial’. They will believe that any win, even a landslide win, is ‘in doubt’. And then when the same media presents some authoritative statement, such as a Supreme Court ruling or even just Trump declaring that he won and holding another inauguration, they will pretend that that decides the matter. And for millions of Americans, it will.

Even if not, the goal will be to damage any subsequent government permanently. To ensure that any Democratic government is seen as illegitimate before it starts, and to ensure that any Democratic policies are seen as tyranny of the minority. US mainstream media has been doing this for nearly 20 years now. They, not the votes or the judges, will decide the outcome of this election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:57:12am

re: #102 Renaissance_Man

In the end, the election won’t be stolen by judges or faithless electors or anything like that. It will be decided the same way so many major issues are decided - by mainstream American media companies pretending that made-up Republican issues are real.

Trump insisted that there was “massive voter fraud” to explain why he lost the popular vote in 2016…something he never proved even after convening a commission to investigate it.

Let us just work toward and hope that the results are just too clearly overwhelming for the inevitable GOP/Trump court challenges to stand up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:59:39am

re: #92 ericblair

Looks like the yam is helping out the Democratic media strategy. Yes, the crazy lady is hell-bent on overturning Roe vs. Wade, just like we told you.

Apparently the polling crosstabs are showing that Democratic voters are 15% more likely to be energized because of the Supreme Court than they were in 2016, and it now exceeds the figure for Republicans. This is a net Democratic energizer now.

A lot of Americans are against abortion - in the moral sense, but want to have it as a fallback in case their daughters get knocked up by some loser…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:02:06am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump insisted that there was “massive voter fraud” to explain why he lost the popular vote in 2016…something he never proved even after convening a commission to investigate it.

Let us just work toward and hope that the results are just too clearly overwhelming for the inevitable GOP/Trump court challenges to stand up.

My understanding is also Trump has been grifting so much from his own campaign and the GOP that they don’t have any money. How do they pay for these multi-state lawsuits?

Chambers-of-Commerce across the country are endorsing Joe Biden and the Democrats. I’m not sure how much an endorsement is worth to a candidate, but if the business community is abandoning the GOP this time round, they are in real trouble.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:02:11am

In other news, looks like war between Azerbaijan and Armenia. Again. Russia has proven to be a very stabilizing influence in the region, apparently.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:04:21am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The mainstream media take can simply be boiled down to “fascism won’t be as bad this time around. “

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:04:59am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My understanding is also Trump has been grifting so much from his own campaign and the GOP that they don’t have any money. How do they pay for these multi-state lawsuits?

This is a case where his interests and the party’s diverge and this could be what hamstrings him in the end.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:06:35am

re: #107 Florida Panhandler

The mainstream media take can simply be boiled down to “fascism won’t be as bad this time around. “

Just think of all the fun you’ll have on those package vacations with Kraft durch Freude

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:07:07am

re: #106 ericblair

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In other news, looks like war between Azerbaijan and Armenia. Again. Russia has proven to be a very stabilizing influence in the region, apparently.

Just the fatherly role that Putin wants to be seen playing

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:12:17am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But he is already telling us that he is going to everything he can to challenge any results that do not tally up in his favor and try to get the decision moved out of the EC into the courts.

His persona is based in being a winner. The moment he admits he can lose, it all falls apart. He can say a bunch of stuff that mean nothing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:13:08am
The long-awaited launch of expanded Medicaid will be especially helpful now that the pandemic has cost many Nebraskans their health insurance, says Molly McCleery of Nebraska Appleseed.

‘It’s a huge relief’: Long-awaited Medicaid expansion begins this week in Nebraska (Omaha World-Herald)

LINCOLN — It’s taken six years of legislative battles, a statewide petition drive, a Nebraska Supreme Court ruling, a successful ballot measure and nearly two years of preparation to get to this point.

Now only a few days remain before thousands of low-income Nebraskans can start getting health care through an expanded Medicaid program.

Viola Tiedemann already has two doctor visits lined up. Within the first two weeks of October, the Omaha woman, 58, will see an orthopedic surgeon to talk about her painful, bone-on-bone hips and her primary care doctor to sort through the complexity of her other medical needs.

The day she got approval for coverage under Medicaid expansion, making those kind of visits possible, brought her to tears.

“I read the letter three or four times to make sure I was reading it correctly,” she said. “I was like, ‘Oh, my God. Thank you, sweet Jesus.’ I was ecstatic.”

Advocates who fought for Medicaid expansion say they are excited to hear of people like Tiedemann who are finally going to get health care.

(more)

Governor Pete Ricketts refused to honour the results of the referendum on the ACA’s Medicaid expansion in 2018, resulting in the court fights. He lost.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:21:00am

More World-Herald, because we haven’t got anything better to do with tax money, like say, Medicare-for-All or even testing for Covid-19:

New generation of ICBMs means Nebraska will continue to be ‘nuclear sponge,’ warn nuke skeptics

In the unhappy event that the world’s nuclear powers cut loose with their atomic weapons, Nebraska would become an especially hellish place.

That’s because the Cornhusker State is one of a handful in the West and Midwest whose role in Armageddon is to soak up an unfathomable first strike of Russian bombs.

Under the weird logic of mutually assured destruction, the 450 Minuteman III missile silos containing 400 nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles in Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado and western Nebraska are meant to be sitting ducks for any first strike by Russia, or any other potential adversary.

(more)

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:28:45am

Beau of the Fifth Column welcomes everyone to visit unrestricted Florida.

(Apparently whenever Beau does a sarcastic post, he turns the patch on his hat upside down.)

Let’s talk about Florida reopening….

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:28:49am

re: #111 Belafon

His persona is based in being a winner. The moment he admits he can lose, it all falls apart. He can say a bunch of stuff that mean nothing.

Why he won’t let anyone outside his control watch him golf.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:30:43am

Meet the guy who is taking down anti-Semitic church sculptures in Germany:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:35:23am

re: #114 stpaulbear

The Oregon Trail video game shirt is appropriate as well.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:37:58am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Oregon Trail video game shirt is appropriate as well.

Yep. He’s got so many great t-shirts.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:38:40am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More World-Herald, because we haven’t got anything better to do with tax money, like say, Medicare-for-All or even testing for Covid-19:

New generation of ICBMs means Nebraska will continue to be ‘nuclear sponge,’ warn nuke skeptics

(more)

Better to be at ground zero than sloughing off your flesh and insides attempting to survive in a post-nuclear war hellscape if you survive an initial strike.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:40:31am

re: #116 The Pie Overlord!

Meet the guy who is taking down anti-Semitic church sculptures in Germany:

When it comes to Martin Luther, they fall back on the old “He was no more anti-Semitic than anybody else back then” argument.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:41:10am

re: #119 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Better to be at ground zero than sloughing off your flesh and insides attempting to survive in a post-nuclear war hellscape if you survive an initial strike.

Unless you have access to the mineshafts…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:43:21am

re: #116 The Pie Overlord!

Meet the guy who is taking down anti-Semitic church sculptures in Germany:

A feature of Christianity, not a bug is its anti-Semitism.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:46:40am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless you have access to the mineshafts…

Living in the mines is just as bad. You certainly won’t be able to come out and frolic for a few Millennium.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:47:12am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A feature of Christianity, not a bug is its anti-Semitism.

The Evangelists went out of their way to let us know that it was the Jews, not the Romans who had the final word on nailing Jesus to the Cross…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:47:21am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:49:17am

re: #81 A Mom Anon

OFFS. I can’t link it from my phone but there is a godawful op ed on Politico right now titled: Amy Coney Barrett: a new feminist icon.

[snip]

I can no longer even with this bullshit.

Don’t they mean feminazi?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:50:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:52:14am

Driver arrested for attempted murder at Yorba Linda protest against police brutality (Los Angeles Times, nine hours ago)

Another ISIS terrorist drives a car through protestors.

A woman was arrested Saturday on suspicion of attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon after driving her car into a crowd during a demonstration in Yorba Linda involving protesters against police brutality and counter-demonstrators, authorities said.

Two people were injured in the incident, according to Sgt. Dennis Breckner of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department.

One man suffered two broken legs and was hospitalized and one woman suffered major and moderate injuries throughout her body, he said.

The driver of the vehicle was not identified.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:52:28am

re: #127 jaunte

As Republicans all don their religion-on-their-sleeves-hair-shirt today, let’s not forget White Evangelicals believe in their cramped, tiny hearts that Catholics, Mormons are also damned to eternal hell.

Thanks for attending my Sunday sermon

But Catholics and Mormons are anti-abortion so they will be tolerated to that extent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:54:24am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was mistaken. After reading it over again, it would appear someone drove a car through the Trump supporters.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:55:44am

Oh yes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:57:09am

re: #127 jaunte

They all believe I’m damned though, so ecumenism.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:57:34am

re: #94 Belafon

The Supreme Court could possibly overturn Roe by calling it a bad decision. But they can’t overturn an abortion law unless they are going to invent rights for fetuses, and i have a ton of environmental law ideas that we can pass if they try to do that.

I want to see the insurance companies shit the bed when parents and grandparents start taking out life insurance policies on zygotes (babies). Since it is estimated that only about 30% of conceptions result in live birth. They are going to lose a bundle.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:59:12am

More Dem messaging from the yam. He’s saying the quiet parts loud again.

His much better, far cheaper alternative is in his other pair of pants, I suppose. Or the dog ate it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:59:56am

re: #133 Eventual Carrion

I want to see the insurance companies shit the bed when parents and grandparents start taking out life insurance policies on zygotes (babies). Since it is estimated that only about 30% of conceptions result in live birth. They are going to lose a bundle.

The zygote usually dies after it fails to attach to the uterine wall or is spontaneously aborted.

Those count as preëxisting conditions (for which you can still be denied life insurance today, which is why I don’t have any).

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:00:00am
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:02:21am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The zygote usually dies after it fails to attach to the uterine wall or is spontaneously aborted.

Those count as preëxisting conditions (for which you can still be denied life insurance today, which is why I don’t have any).

I call those “God’s Abortions.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:02:24am

re: #134 ericblair

Better and cheaper… but for who exactly…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:04:53am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But Catholics and Mormons are anti-abortion so they will be tolerated to that extent.

For the moment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:09:46am

Weird Christian sex stuff.
Pastor Todd White “God is Waiting For You to Climax” (goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language and adult subjects, 21:23)

They don’t know who Pastor White is, so I can help out here (I keep track of wingnuts for counter-apologetics)

Todd White’s ministry is very similar to when Jesus was on this earth in that Todd is walking around looking for people who need a Savior… who need a Healer… who need a Deliverer. And when he meets someone, he’s very sensitive to figure out what their need is and then share how Jesus can meet that need.
Robert Morris

Founding Lead Senior Pastor, Gateway Church

Todd White is senior pastor of Lifestyle Christianity Church in Watauga, Texas.

Pastor Todd White “God is Waiting For You to Climax”

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:10:18am

re: #134 ericblair

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More Dem messaging from the yam. He’s saying the quiet parts loud again.

His much better, far cheaper alternative is in his other pair of pants, I suppose. Or the dog ate it.

The follow-up with people who believe him is what exactly do they think will pass muster with this court if the ACA doesn’t.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:10:58am

re: #92 ericblair

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Looks like the yam is helping out the Democratic media strategy. Yes, the crazy lady is hell-bent on overturning Roe vs. Wade, just like we told you.

Apparently the polling crosstabs are showing that Democratic voters are 15% more likely to be energized because of the Supreme Court than they were in 2016, and it now exceeds the figure for Republicans. This is a net Democratic energizer now.

But it’s too late. The time to be energized was in 2016 when a certain someone was warning us. She’s going to be confirmed and there’s nothing that can be done. Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the Dem strategy of “Well, look what you said in 2016!” won’t change a damn thing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:11:06am

re: #136 The Pie Overlord!

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Great. I did a volunteer shift on Thanksgiving at Masbia. They are always hitting me up for money, but seem to spend some of it on advertising.

Would like to do a small donation. Are they a good charity to donate to?

Thanks.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:12:06am

re: #131 (((Archangel1)))

Oh yes.

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Well, maybe: a 45-43% poll means 12% aren’t counted (presumably “undecided” or “Other”) - but still: not bad news at all.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:13:41am

Trump supporters are ok with this.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:22:08am

re: #142 GlutenFreeJesus

But it’s too late. The time to be energized was in 2016 when a certain someone was warning us. She’s going to be confirmed and there’s nothing that can be done. Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the Dem strategy of “Well, look what you said in 2016!” won’t change a damn thing.

It’s not too late to fix the country. And I don’t want this to sound too optimistic, but had Clinton been elected in this environment, there would probably be 60+ Republican senators, the House would be in GOP hands, Hillary would be 10 points down in the polls due to her mishandling of the virus that has so far killed 40,000 people and required two $2T stimuli packages, and do you know how many people would be complaining about their kids staring at the computer screens all day watching their teachers on zoom classrooms when that money used to install cameras in teachers homes could have been spent on making schools safer?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:22:44am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:42am

re: #2 Belafon

Epidemiology question: if the Obama administration had reacted to the swine flu the way Trump has reacted to Covid, how many people might have died?

Swine flu has turned out not to be that lethal. So no more than a typical flu year.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:27:59am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

‘It’s a huge relief’: Long-awaited Medicaid expansion begins this week in Nebraska (Omaha World-Herald)

(more)

Governor Pete Ricketts refused to honour the results of the referendum on the ACA’s Medicaid expansion in 2018, resulting in the court fights. He lost.

But Medicaid expansion was part of the ACA. Wouldn’t that go away too as part of the SCOTUS decision?

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cat-tikvah  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:29:11am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can hang out in Hell with me.
Or wherever I am as Jews don’t have a Hell.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:30:32am

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

Swine flu has turned out not to be that lethal. So no more than a typical flu year.

We would have just seen an additional set of flu deaths? Now I just need to look up what the normal flu death count would be over the time H1N1 was active.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:34:35am

re: #152 Belafon

We would have just seen an additional set of flu deaths? Now I just need to look up what the normal flu death count would be over the time H1N1 was active.

I don’t know about swine flu, but to be contagious with SARS, you have to be symptomatic. That also changed the whole dynamic

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:40:10am

re: #147 Belafon

It’s not too late to fix the country. And I don’t want this to sound too optimistic, but had Clinton been elected in this environment, there would probably be 60+ Republican senators, the Hiuse would be in GOP hands, Hillary would be 10 points down in the polls due to her mishandling of the virus that has so far killed 40,000 people and required two $2T stimuli packages, and do you know how many people would be complaining about their kids staring at the computer screens all day watching their teachers on zoom classrooms when that money used to install cameras in teachers homes could have been spent on making schools safer?

There wouldn’t have been a worldwide pandemic because the teams and policies that had been put in place under Obama would have detected the virus at the beginning and our experts would have worked with China to prevent the spread. It would have been stopped at the beginning, well before South Korea and New Zealand implemented measures that limited the harm to their nations.

That said, you are right that the GOP would be in charge of the House and Senate, obstructing everything Hillary tried to do. Who knows — McConnell might not have approved anyone she appointed to SCOTUS, but he would probably have been forced to accept her appointments to the lower court — or maybe not — it’s not really clear whether he would let our whole system implode and die — but maybe. And she probably would have been impeached a dozen times by now, but no convictions since they likely would not have had 67 Senate votes.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:40:56am

This was a response to Dwayne Johnson’s endorsement of Biden/Harris. It is so on the nose, I can’t even begin to say….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:45:01am

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

But Medicaid expansion was part of the ACA. Wouldn’t that go away too as part of the SCOTUS decision?

If the ACA was struck down, presumably Medicaid expansion would go away as well.

Some states could choose to keep those provisions as state law if they eat the cost themselves, but there’s no chance a state like mine which fought the voters after the referendum passed for two whole years would ever do that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:49:13am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If the ACA was struck down, presumably Medicaid expansion would go away as well.

Some states could choose to keep those provisions as state law if they eat the cost themselves, but there’s no chance a state like mine which fought the voters after the referendum passed for two whole years would ever do that.

It would likely go away in most other states because they cannot afford to maintain it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:50:41am

Looking at the morning regional paper’s letters column, I see the last letter they published was mine on August 7.

I guess no one here is outraged about anything.

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:52:21am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:53:13am

re: #154 Hecuba’s daughter

There wouldn’t have been a worldwide pandemic because the teams and policies that had been put in place under Obama would have detected the virus at the beginning and our experts would have worked with China to prevent the spread. It would have been stopped at the beginning, well before South Korea and New Zealand implemented measures that limited the harm to their nations.

That said, you are right that the GOP would be in charge of the House and Senate, obstructing everything Hillary tried to do. Who knows — McConnell might not have approved anyone she appointed to SCOTUS, but he would probably have been forced to accept her appointments to the lower court — or maybe not — it’s not really clear whether he would let our whole system implode and die — but maybe. And she probably would have been impeached a dozen times by now, but no convictions since they likely would not have had 67 Senate votes.

I suspect the virus would have still spread. The fact there was so much time between infection and symptoms means that it could spread pretty far before things could get started. And we know that it entered here through two different paths, both from Asia and from Europe. I think we would have acted like New York state did at the beginning, thinking we could stop it at the entry points. Republicans would have been far worse about things if a Democrat, especially Hillary, was telling them they needed to do something. I’m also imagining Greg Abbott talking about Jade Helm 2.0. But it wouldn’t be as bad as we are right now. Think Kentucky on a national scale.

Edited because I got “and” happy.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:56:02am

re: #81 A Mom Anon

OFFS. I can’t link it from my phone but there is a godawful op ed on Politico right now titled: Amy Coney Barrett: a new feminist icon.

See kids, abortion is bad because it lets men off the hook. But if we look at Barrett’s stance, why it makes men take responsibility in coparenting. The author also says the Barretts have worked together to raise their kids despite having busy careers and right now her husband is doing most of the home stuff so she can move her career forward. No mention of nannies and sitters and housekeepers and the fucking money needed to afford them. They did mention the aunt who provided free child care for a decade.Yeah, she’s a feminist as much as Melania Trump is.

I can no longer even with this bullshit.

Once again, Tiger Beat On The Potomac lives down to it’s reputation!

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:58:00am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:59:24am

Post-tropical cyclone Paulette is still bouncing around the eastern Atlantic, currently about 100 miles south of the Azores. I think this is going for the record for the longest-lived storm system.

nhc.noaa.gov

It is not predicted to develop (again) into a tropical storm soon.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:05:13am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But Catholics and Mormons are anti-abortion so they will be tolerated to that extent.

Yeah, up until the point these guys get their hands on real power, and then we will have a combination of the Thirty Years’ War and the English Civil War. Each group thinks the other is heretical or not Christian. They will not play nice together. The Founding Fathers got a lot of things wrong, but one thing they got kind of right was tamping down the influence of religion in government. Of course, it has taken the better part of two centuries to actually bring this to fruition, but damn if these sectarians aren’t going to drag us back into the crazy.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:09:08am

This hand wringing and sanctimony over George Conway is asinine. I don’t know who’s more insufferable: those who are saying ‘we should have never trusted him’ or those expressing high dudgeon saying ‘see I told you so.’

Conway was nothing other than what he still is: a conservative, against Trump. He conned liberals into retweeting his sick burns and Trump criticism. That’s all.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:11:01am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The zygote usually dies after it fails to attach to the uterine wall or is spontaneously aborted.

Those count as preëxisting conditions (for which you can still be denied life insurance today, which is why I don’t have any).

I’ve told this story before, but it bears repeating: when I was picketing that nest of wannabe murderers nearby* last year, I asked one of the male parishioners about the 50 percent of fertilized ova that fail to implant. Oh, he told me that they were as alive as you and me and that God had judged them from before the foundation of the world, thus some of these multicellular zygotes would go to heaven and some would go to hell. And it was completely up to the will of the Calvinist god. I may or may not have said, “That’s completely fucked.” (If I didn’t, I should have.)

You cannot reason with people caught up in that kind of crazy.

*That’d be Apologia Church, where the leadership is on record as wanting to execute women who have abortions.

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gwangung  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:11:11am

re: #165 BigPapa

This hand wringing and sanctimony over George Conway is asinine. I don’t know who’s more insufferable: those who are saying ‘we should have never trusted him’ or those expressing high dudgeon saying ‘see I told you so.’

Conway was nothing other than what he still is: a conservative, against Trump. He conned liberals into retweeting his sick burns and Trump criticism. That’s all.

Only use for him is to say, “See? Even other conservatives think Trump is an incompetent.”

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:15:09am

So supposedly Conway and Lincoln conned ‘us’ into what exactly? To give them $ to make a bunch of seriously damaging Trump ads and retweet them, which if you haven’t looked are pretty damaging?

How much $ did Lincoln put in and compare it to the damage done. Show the work.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:18:35am

re: #165 BigPapa

This hand wringing and sanctimony over George Conway is asinine. I don’t know who’s more insufferable: those who are saying ‘we should have never trusted him’ or those expressing high dudgeon saying ‘see I told you so.’

Conway was nothing other than what he still is: a conservative, against Trump. He conned liberals into retweeting his sick burns and Trump criticism. That’s all.

“I told you we never should have fought with Stalin to defeat Hitler.”

Do a lot of liberals not work with conservatives. Because I do, and while we’re good at working together to get our work done, and we’d help each other of something bad happened, like a house burnt down, we are not going to be close friends.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:19:40am

re: #168 BigPapa

Didn’t con me. I knew what they were doing. And I knew to never give them money, but instead donate to Dems. Not that hard. I enjoy their tRump hate and anti tRump ads, that’s all. Conway is a fraud. He supports his wife. He’s a braindead conservative who thinks he’s way smarter than he is. He also thinks he’s funny. He, of course, isn’t.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:21:47am

Now for something completely different. This guy is a Japanese calligrapher who I watch just for his lovely writing. I aspire to write like him. Today he put up a video explaining why four hiragana characters (one of the two syllabic writing systems in Japanese, used alongside kanji) are not allowed on Japanese license plates.

(There is an English crawl explaining why each character is forbidden.)

ナンバープレートで使用が禁止されている4つのひらがなをご存知ですか？

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:22:28am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The zygote usually dies after it fails to attach to the uterine wall or is spontaneously aborted.

Those count as preëxisting conditions (for which you can still be denied life insurance today, which is why I don’t have any).

The only reason I can get any life insurance is because I’m a Federal employee. When I was ordered to pay child support years ago the judge ordered me to get an additional life insurance policy. No company would write a policy for me based on my and my family’s medical records except one that would only write a $2,500 term policy with astronomical premiums which the judge rejected…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:27:42am

Just some interesting family stuff found while surfing last night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:29:15am

re: #172 🌹UOJB!

The only reason I can get any life insurance is because I’m a Federal employee. When I was ordered to pay child support years ago the judge ordered me to get an additional life insurance policy. No company would write a policy for me based on my and my family’s medical records except one that would only write a $2,500 term policy with astronomical premiums which the judge rejected…

I had SGLI when I was in the Navy, plus a John Hancock variable whole-life insurance policy. When my wife divorced me after I was medically separated from the Navy, the court in Florida ordered the whole life policy liquidated and all the money given to my ex-wife. (They also liquidated our mutual fund and gave her all that money as well.)

The Florida court ordered me to get a life insurance policy, but you can’t do that with epilepsy and homeless. Fortunately my ex-wife either didn’t pay attention or didn’t care.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:30:38am

re: #173 Eventual Carrion

Just some interesting family stuff found while surfing last night.

How did you do all that while on a surfboard?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:35:14am

The sun is up, so I’m going to go to bed. Catch y’all later. Try to stay out of the smoke.

The current AQI here is 24 (yay) as the wind is from the NW (no fires in that direction, though later in the week it will drag Idaho and West Coast smoke our way).
airnow.gov

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:41:33am

2015: Moonrise over Saticoy, CA

Was thinking about posting crazy political diatribes, but settled on a moonrise photo as the day beckons me away from electronics

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:42:11am

re: #165 BigPapa

This hand wringing and sanctimony over George Conway is asinine. I don’t know who’s more insufferable: those who are saying ‘we should have never trusted him’ or those expressing high dudgeon saying ‘see I told you so.’

Conway was nothing other than what he still is: a conservative, against Trump. He conned liberals into retweeting his sick burns and Trump criticism. That’s all.

Most of the anti-Trump conservatives… it’s foreign policy that chafes them the most. The Putin-worship, picking fights with allies, the abdication of American leadership in the world. With a secondary set of complaints that “family values”, “personal responsibility” and support for free trade and deficit-hawks policies were always bullshit they never really cared about no matter how loudly they pretended to.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:45:25am

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How did you do all that while on a surfboard?

Practice, practice, practice

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:46:14am

re: #78 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

Born yesterday
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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:47:21am

re: #152 Belafon

We would have just seen an additional set of flu deaths? Now I just need to look up what the normal flu death count would be over the time H1N1 was active.

It’s interesting: I went to the Wiki for the 2009 H1N1/”swine flu” pandemic, and while there seems to be a general agreement that it was, as influenza outbreaks go (for the US), worse than “usual” - there seems to be no hard number as to the “extra” deaths attributable to the flu in 2009-10, outside of the 3,433 total (as a state-by-state compilation) in their top sidebar. I’ve seen the figure of “9,000 to 12,000 deaths” bandied around a lot; but it’s unclear as to whether that is the total number of flu deaths, or the particular “swine flu” body-count. Which seems to have boosted by the fact that H1N1 was a more-resistant strain.

In any event, it seems pretty obvious (except, of course, to those of the Asshole Bloc who persist in trying to make political “points” out virtually everything) that there is not much in the way of relevant comparison (either on a biological or epidemiological basis) between H1N1 and COVID-19 - least of all in the way the incumbent Administrations handled the pandemics…..

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:47:37am

re: #166 mmmirele

I’ve told this story before, but it bears repeating: when I was picketing that nest of wannabe murderers nearby* last year, I asked one of the male parishioners about the 50 percent of fertilized ova that fail to implant. Oh, he told me that they were as alive as you and me and that God had judged them from before the foundation of the world, thus some of these multicellular zygotes would go to heaven and some would go to hell. And it was completely up to the will of the Calvinist god. I may or may not have said, “That’s completely fucked.” (If I didn’t, I should have.)

You cannot reason with people caught up in that kind of crazy.

*That’d be Apologia Church, where the leadership is on record as wanting to execute women who have abortions.

So, wouldn’t the same be true for aborted fetuses, and 45 year old people and everyone else? How is that relevant to abortion?

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:48:28am

re: #169 Belafon

“I told you we never should have fought with Stalin to defeat Hitler.”

Do a lot of liberals not work with conservatives. Because I do, and while we’re good at working together to get our work done, and we’d help each other of something bad happened, like a house burnt down, we are not going to be close friends.

This is similar to the reasons I’m so disappointed in AOC not going to the Rabin thing. Did he do a bunch of shitty stuff during his military career? Sure. But that’s a big part of why him shifting to pursuing peace was so important.

Menachem Begin did a bunch of super-violent things too. Including, he was a full-on terrorist by any definition. None of which diminishes in the slightest the kudos he deserves for establishing a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt (for which Sadat paid with his life).

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:49:06am

re: #81 A Mom Anon

OFFS. I can’t link it from my phone but there is a godawful op ed on Politico right now titled: Amy Coney Barrett: a new feminist icon.

See kids, abortion is bad because it lets men off the hook. But if we look at Barrett’s stance, why it makes men take responsibility in coparenting. The author also says the Barretts have worked together to raise their kids despite having busy careers and right now her husband is doing most of the home stuff so she can move her career forward. No mention of nannies and sitters and housekeepers and the fucking money needed to afford them. They did mention the aunt who provided free child care for a decade.Yeah, she’s a feminist as much as Melania Trump is.

I can no longer even with this bullshit.

Curiously, Elizabeth Warren had an aunt who came to help her with childcare and stayed for 16 years. What she learned from that is that people who don’t have an Aunt Bee (sp?) need help.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:53:12am

Anti Trumpers are still conservative to the bone. They merely think 1920’s Italy is a bridge too far to their vision of a much more staid and stable 1950’s America with a court system that constantly negs liberalism. Trump is throwing the baby out with the bathwater for them.

But they are still conservatives. None of us forgot that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:54:23am

re: #184 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Curiously, Elizabeth Warren had an aunt who came to help her with childcare and stayed for 16 years. What she learned from that is that people who don’t have an Aunt Bee (sp?) need help.

You still see that in small-town Germany: you live in same village as your parents or in a neighboring village and they contribute to child care.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:58:39am

re: #93 A Mom Anon

Thanks for putting up the link for this crap, lol. Let’s see how long it will take for this shit to begin hitting mainstream media outlets as a warped apologia.

I have known two women, both Republicans, both younger than me by at least a decade, who were able to advance their careers, go to college and raise a total of 4 daughters because they both had moms who retired and took care of their kids so they could work and go to school. Meanwhile, women like me had none of that but I am the failure for not going to school, working and raising a kid at the same time. And neither of these women understand that not everyone’s family is loving and close. Nor do they understand the cost of child care, especially specialized daycare. I’m tired of this crap.

For me, that’s one of the big differences between Republicans and Democrats. Democrats try to understand and empathize with a variety of experiences. For Republicans, there is only one experience - their experience.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:59:14am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:01:18am

re: #188 Belafon

Maybe Joe should use that picture every time DT calls him sleepy.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:01:46am

re: #181 Jay C

It’s interesting: I went to the Wiki for the 2009 H1N1/”swine flu” pandemic, and while there seems to be a general agreement that it was, as influenza outbreaks go (for the US), worse than “usual” - there seems to be no hard number as to the “extra” deaths attributable to the flu in 2009-10, outside of the 3,433 total (as a state-by-state compilation) in their top sidebar. I’ve seen the figure of “9,000 to 12,000 deaths” bandied around a lot; but it’s unclear as to whether that is the total number of flu deaths, or the particular “swine flu” body-count. Which seems to have boosted by the fact that H1N1 was a more-resistant strain.

In any event, it seems pretty obvious (except, of course, to those of the Asshole Bloc who persist in trying to make political “points” out virtually everything) that there is not much in the way of relevant comparison (either on a biological or epidemiological basis) between H1N1 and COVID-19 - least of all in the way the incumbent Administrations handled the pandemics…..

Thanks for doing the research. I was kind of hoping for something along the lines of “If Obama had been this incompetent, lots of people would have died, but he didn’t,” but I guess there isn’t.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:06:08am

re: #145 jaunte

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Trump supporters are ok with this.

And when a Trump supporter loses their health care, it will be the Dems fault.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:07:03am

I would also have to install a faucet I could connect this to, but neat:

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:09:53am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I had SGLI when I was in the Navy, plus a John Hancock variable whole-life insurance policy. When my wife divorced me after I was medically separated from the Navy, the court in Florida ordered the whole life policy liquidated and all the money given to my ex-wife. (They also liquidated our mutual fund and gave her all that money as well.)

The Florida court ordered me to get a life insurance policy, but you can’t do that with epilepsy and homeless. Fortunately my ex-wife either didn’t pay attention or didn’t care.

Well my son’s mother made it clear that I was nothing but a Gold Amex card and she’d get every last penny out of me with he assistance of the “born again” judge in Orange County CA…

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:13:15am

I played Trump in Clinton’s debate prep. Here’s what Biden can expect.
The president will be a desperate — and dangerous — adversary. by Philippe Reines, WaPo

Pretty good analysis, IMO.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:13:18am

re: #188 Belafon

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TFW only half the dose has kicked in.

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HypnoToad  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:17:25am

Finally tried out my digital camera on my big telescope last night. Been meaning to do that for a long time. There was a nice lineup of Jupiter, Saturn, the Moon, and Mars in the southern sky. These were done with a Canon T6i using a homemade lens on a non-tracking alt-az mount. I used hand pressure to momentarily ‘freeze’ the motion of objects near the meridian for the exposures. Focal length 9,400mm at f/30 moderate to good atmospheric seeing.

Jupiter with shadow from Ganymede. 1/200 sec. exp. iso 1600
Sunrise over Sinus Iridium (Bay of rainbows) large flat crater on the left is Plato
Copernicus crater (60 miles in dia)

A night under the universe puts things in perspective.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:22:01am

re: #196 HypnoToad

Wonderful!! Thank you for sharing!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:26:55am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:27:34am

re: #198 Patricia Kayden

Good. Go Joe Go. :)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:28:44am

re: #192 Belafon

I would also have to install a faucet I could connect this to, but neat:

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Thx, Now I have to go pee.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:33:53am
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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:35:29am

re: #190 Belafon

Thanks for doing the research. I was kind of hoping for something along the lines of “If Obama had been this incompetent, lots of people would have died, but he didn’t,” but I guess there isn’t.

Mainly, IMO, because so very few people bother to do ANY sort of “research” and so very many just see “Obama” and “incompetent” and stop thinking right there.

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HypnoToad  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:42:31am

re: #201 BigPapa

Works a bit better when you’re two thousand times closer and shooting through a vacuum!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:43:55am
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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:46:25am

The Selling of Barrett is coming Fast and Furious. We knew it would. Put on the waders.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:48:33am

re: #205 BigPapa

Do you think we will need a backhoe?

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:50:18am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:54:05am

re: #204 Charles Johnson

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It should be one sentence long: they both are female and married.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:54:55am

Afternoon Lizardim.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:55:49am

re: #182 calochortus

So, wouldn’t the same be true for aborted fetuses, and 45 year old people and everyone else? How is that relevant to abortion?

He really believed that life began at conception. So i presented him with the documented fact that 50 percent of fertilized ova fail to implant, then asked him what happens to them? That’s when he said they were either predestined from before the foundation of the world to either go to heaven or hell. It didn’t occur to him to question a system where 50 percent of all fertilized ova, which he believed to be as alive as you and me, were destined to die.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:58:24am

re: #210 mmmirele

He really believed that life began at conception. So i presented him with the documented fact that 50 percent of fertilized ova fail to implant, then asked him what happens to them? That’s when he said they were either predestined from before the foundation of the world to either go to heaven or hell. It didn’t occur to him to question a system where 50 percent of all fertilized ova, which he believed to be as alive as you and me, were destined to die.

Which, as someone said, says nothing about abortion, since an all-knowing God would know that was going to happen as well.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:58:54am

re: #207 Teddy’s Person ✌

And Tapper let him spew b.s. without interruption or pushback. That’s exactly why I don’t watch CNN.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:58:55am

re: #204 Charles Johnson

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What Amy Coney Barrett has in common with Ruth Bader Ginsberg

1. They are carbon-based life forms.
2. They both have XX chromosomes.

(anybody want to add to that list?)

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:59:13am

re: #14 Dave In Austin

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:59:25am

re: #213 sagehen

They’re both Americans.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:00:38am

re: #201 BigPapa

Every time I hear or read about Jupiter, I’m much happier about life on earth.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:01:27am
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:04:41am

re: #217 jaunte

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Unless you’re a white, wealthy, Christian, heteronormative man, Amy Coney Barrette* doesn’t give a shit about your rights.

* My line the petty sand is not to refer to her as ACB.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:09:33am

re: #218 Teddy’s Person ✌

Unless you’re a white, wealthy, Christian, Republican, heteronormative man, Amy Coney Barrette* doesn’t give a shit about your rights.

* My line the petty sand is not to refer to her as ACB.

FTFY. Because let’s face it, I match all of those other criteria, but I guarantee you she would rather I don’t vote.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:12:45am

Amy Klobuchar bringing the fire. Well worth 6 minutes of your time today.

Amy Klobuchar Slams Ted Cruz Over SCOTUS Hypocrisy | NowThis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:12:57am

re: #127 jaunte

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and Methodists

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:13:27am

re: #219 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

FTFY. Because let’s face it, I match all of those other criteria, but I guarantee you she would rather I don’t vote.

👍

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:13:59am

re: #210 mmmirele

He really believed that life began at conception. So i presented him with the documented fact that 50 percent of fertilized ova fail to implant, then asked him what happens to them? That’s when he said they were either predestined from before the foundation of the world to either go to heaven or hell. It didn’t occur to him to question a system where 50 percent of all fertilized ova, which he believed to be as alive as you and me, were destined to die.

Right, but it seems to me that “God has decided your fate and it will be for all eternity regardless of anything you do” is a strong argument that outright murder is A-OK for everyone involved, because it won’t affect anyone’s ultimate fate and our lives on earth are just a tiny blip in eternity .
No. I don’t expect logic to enter into this religious position.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:21:56am
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:23:07am

re: #210 mmmirele

He really believed that life began at conception. So i presented him with the documented fact that 50 percent of fertilized ova fail to implant, then asked him what happens to them? That’s when he said they were either predestined from before the foundation of the world to either go to heaven or hell. It didn’t occur to him to question a system where 50 percent of all fertilized ova, which he believed to be as alive as you and me, were destined to die.

Ah to be a spider in the corner of a ceiling in an insurance company boardroom when the Court rules a fertilized egg is a person and Republicans enact legislation that insurance companies are required to write policies for fertilized eggs…

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:26:53am

re: #225 🌹UOJB!

Ah to be a spider in the corner of a ceiling in an insurance company boardroom when the Court rules a fertilized egg is a person and Republicans enact legislation that insurance companies are required to write policies for fertilized eggs…

They won’t of course, unless they are unaffordably priced. Insurance companies aren’t noticeably required to write policies for much of anything that could lose them money.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:29:45am

re: #210 mmmirele

He really believed that life began at conception. So i presented him with the documented fact that 50 percent of fertilized ova fail to implant, then asked him what happens to them? That’s when he said they were either predestined from before the foundation of the world to either go to heaven or hell. It didn’t occur to him to question a system where 50 percent of all fertilized ova, which he believed to be as alive as you and me, were destined to die.

If ova/sperm combos are ensouled at conception, it follows that 70% of souls in the afterlife, in the course of nature, were never born and never had an earthly life.

Seventy percent.

From which it follows that the Ensouler PREFERS that embryos have no terrestrial life (else why set things up that way?). Therefore, an abortion furthers the Plan and opposing it is against that same Plan.

Run that by them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:29:57am

I think a lot of people don’t realize how much Obamacare has gotten them and will be completely caught off guard if it gets struck down.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:31:48am

The Pastor at my former church spent a good amount of time in his Sermon today talking about important it is to have Christians in all levels of government and saying how excited he was about ACB.

He doesn’t normally get this political in his messages.

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NetworkKed  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:32:12am

Well after taking a minor wobble for a few days, 538 is back to 22-1-77 on the main prediction, the high water mark. Remember that the model there will leach out uncertainty as we get closer to the election so identical polling on election day would mean even better odds.

If there is a reason to be nervous, it is that state-level polling is a bit… wobbly. Yesterday there were two Arizona polls released - one was Biden +11, the other was Trump +1. There’s good reason to think it’s probably in the +4ish range, but the bottom line is that state-level polling is not nearly so precise a science as we’d like. That was where predictions went screwy last time. The polling firms say they’ve fixed the problem from 2016, but inevitably the electorate will mutate again.

I will say that I find it interesting how a lot of “Likely Voter” filters are plus a point or two D, where previously they were always +2 R. Again, this is great news - if it’s real.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:33:19am

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

The Pastor at my former church spent a good amount of time in his Sermon today talking about important it is to have Christians in all levels of government and saying how excited he was about ACB.

He doesn’t normally get this political in his messages.

I see the Pulpit Pimp received the GOP talking points.

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:36:20am

H/T to Caleb Cain

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:40:41am

re: #218 Teddy’s Person ✌

But but but she adopted Black children!!! /s

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:41:37am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

Bloop!! Pretty amazing since Jennings is a Mormon.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:47:36am

It’s sobering to realize no “win” will ever be enough to satisfy conservatives.
They have to be fought on every issue at every level.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:47:41am

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

But but but she adopted Black children!!! /s

A couple of months ago I was watching a live stream of the Portland protest. This was in the early days of the Wall of Moms. One of the organizers/speakers talked about how she was adopted into a white family and raised by a racist mom. Her point was the white women supporting BLM and seeing non-racist white women meant a lot to her personally.

Adopting children of color is not an automatic get out of racism free card.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:49:17am

re: #236 Teddy’s Person ✌

Yep. I was being sarcastic. To be honest, even marrying a Black spouse doesn’t mean that you can’t be anti-Black. Looking at you, Mrs. Ginni Thomas.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:50:08am
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:50:18am

Surprise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:50:40am

re: #236 Teddy’s Person ✌

Yep. I’ve known plenty of middle class white couples with a “token black” adopted child.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:51:06am

re: #237 Patricia Kayden

Yep. I was being sarcastic. To be honest, even marrying a Black spouse doesn’t mean that you can’t be anti-Black. Looking at you, Mrs. Ginni Thomas.

I should have acknowledged the snark, but that woman’s words have really stuck with me.

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gwangung  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:53:31am

re: #236 Teddy’s Person ✌

A couple of months ago I was watching a live stream of the Portland protest. This was in the early days of the Wall of Moms. One of the organizers/speakers talked about how she was adopted into a white family and raised by a racist mom. Her point was the white women supporting BLM and seeing non-racist white women meant a lot to her personally.

Adopting children of color is not an automatic get out of racism free card.

Exactly. I know a lot of white folks who’ve adopted Korean and Chines babies and they’re fine people; I also know a number of white folks who’ve adopted and they can be as racist as any other bigots. Character is character.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:01:34pm

re: #192 Belafon

I would also have to install a faucet I could connect this to, but neat:

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brain-eating amoeba recommended!

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:03:35pm

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(Please reply upstairs.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:05:01pm

re: #213 sagehen

What Amy Coney Barrett has in common with Ruth Bader Ginsberg

1. They are carbon-based life forms.
2. They both have XX chromosomes.

(anybody want to add to that list?)

bewbs

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:06:28pm

re: #244 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:07:32pm

re: #213 sagehen

What Amy Coney Barrett has in common with Ruth Bader Ginsberg

1. They are carbon-based life forms.
2. They both have XX chromosomes.

(anybody want to add to that list?)

3. Married with children
4. Attorneys

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:11:31pm

re: #236 Teddy’s Person ✌

A couple of months ago I was watching a live stream of the Portland protest. This was in the early days of the Wall of Moms. One of the organizers/speakers talked about how she was adopted into a white family and raised by a racist mom. Her point was the white women supporting BLM and seeing non-racist white women meant a lot to her personally.

Adopting children of color is not an automatic get out of racism free card.

See: Laura Ingraham

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:37:43pm

re: #227 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

If ova/sperm combos are ensouled at conception, it follows that 70% of souls in the afterlife, in the course of nature, were never born and never had an earthly life.

Which is why identical twins, who started as one embryo and didn’t split until maybe 5 or 6 days in, only each have half a soul.


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Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
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