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Majority rule is a precious, sacred thing worth dying for. But—like other precious, sacred things, such as the home and the family—it’s not only worth dying for; it can make you wish you were dead. Imagine if all of life were determined by majority rule. Every meal would be a pizza. Every pair of pants, even those in a Brooks Brothers suit, would be stonewashed denim. Celebrity diet and exercise books would be the only thing on the shelves at the library. And—since women are a majority of the population—we’d all be married to Mel Gibson.

— P.J. O’Rourke

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1 Pietr  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:34:05pm

I like Mel Gibson, as an actor, but I'm not into marrying guys..........:>O

2 wiffersnapper  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:35:30pm

That's deep.

3 srb1976  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:36:56pm

For what it's worth....as member of the majority, I would vote against marrying mel gibson

4 pink freud  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:38:47pm

As a female I can say unequivocally that Mel Gibson is overrated. Especially since his nasty side surfaced.

5 trigger girlie  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:41:37pm

I LOVE Pj O'Rourke, what a genius

6 ladycatnip  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:47:06pm

Here's another example of the high school mentality in the WH. Absolutely. No. Judgment.

7 Killian Bundy  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:48:57pm

Nancy 'Scooter' Pelosi

Security Breaches: Scooter Libby went to prison [sic] for the "outing" of a desk-jockey CIA agent. He forgot conversations. Pelosi forgets briefings. And the outing of our entire intelligence apparatus by Democrats is OK.

Who Is Rosa Brooks?

Transition: The new adviser to an undersecretary of defense is a left-wing reporter who once wrote that President George W. Bush was the "torturer-in-chief." Leftist billionaire George Soros has a mole in the Pentagon.

/elections have consequences

8 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:50:43pm

re: #4 pink freud

I used to think he was the "bomb", especially since he seemed like a good husband, etc. A member of my family worked on most of his earlier movies and I have the autographed pic, etc., signed to me.

Puke, he is an antisemite.

I think somebody stole that picture at one of my parties and I don't even care,

9 TheMatrix31  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:51:29pm

re: #6 ladycatnip

Here's another example of the high school mentality in the WH. Absolutely. No. Judgment.

You mean it was a bad idea to fly low over Manhattan?!?!

10 calcajun  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:52:26pm

re: #5 trigger girlie

I LOVE Pj O'Rourke, what a genius

My kids wanted to do a speech for Speech & Debate from "All the Trouble in the World". I did not want them kicked out of the club.

11 srb1976  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:53:08pm

re: #9 TheMatrix31

You mean it was a bad idea to fly low over Manhattan?!?!

That, and not telling anyone what they were doing..... a head's up probably would have been nice

12 trigger girlie  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:53:09pm

re: #10 calcajun

I love his sarcasm and wit. Smart kids

13 ladycatnip  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:53:16pm

#9 TheMatrix31

You mean it was a bad idea to fly low over Manhattan?!?!

Only those over the age of 18 would think so.

14 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:53:52pm

Goodnight lizards. I have to get my beauty (flu) sleep.

Take care, everyone.

15 calcajun  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:54:10pm

re: #4 pink freud

As a female I can say unequivocally that Mel Gibson is overrated. Especially since his nasty side surfaced.

Well, the legal system is about to do a "Braveheart" on him with his divorce.

16 calcajun  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:57:29pm

Ah, nite lizards!

17 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, April 28th:

Youtube Video

Highlights of this day in history: Italy's dictator Benito Mussolini killed; Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein born; Muhammad Ali refuses military induction during the Vietnam War; The first space tourist; 'Tonight Show' host Jay Leno born.

18 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:01:18am

re: #15 calcajun

Well, the legal system is about to do a "Braveheart" on him with his divorce.

that's a self inflicted wound: he can find sympathy in the dictionary.

it's right between "shit" and "syphilis" ...... %-)

19 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:02:08am

i had an early rat tonight......

he met an early end. %-)

20 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:02:25am

"Late again," the third-grade teacher said to little Sammy.

"It ain't my fault this time, Miss Crabtree. You can blame this'un on my
Daddy. The reason I'm three hours late is my Daddy sleeps naked!"

Now, Miss Crabtree had taught grammar school for thirty-some-odd years.
Despite her mounting fears, she asked little Sammy what he meant by that.

Full of grins and mischief, and in the flower of his youth, little Sammy
and trouble were old friends, but he always told her the truth.

"You see, Miss Crabtree, out at the ranch we got this here low down
coyote. The last few nights, he done ate six hens and killed Ma's best
milk goat. Last night, when Daddy heard a noise out in the chicken pen,
he grabbed his shot gun and said to Ma, "That coyote's back again, I'm a
gonna git him!''

"Stay back, he whispered to all us kids!

"He was naked as a jaybird, no boots, no pants, no shirt! To the hen
house he crawled, just like an Injun on the snoop. Then, he stuck that
double barreled 12 gauge shot gun through the window of the coop."

"As he stared into the darkness, with coyotes on his mind, our old hound
dog, Zeke, had done woke up and comes sneakin' up behind Daddy. Then, as
we all looked on, plumb helpless, old Zeke stuck his cold nose in
Daddy's crack!"

"Miss Crabtree, we all been cleanin' chickens since three o'clock this
mornin'!"

21 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:03:36am

re: #19 redc1c4

i had an early rat tonight......

he met an early end. %-)

...it needed killin'.

22 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:03:53am

re: #20 Pietr

"Late again," the third-grade teacher said to little Sammy.

"It ain't my fault this time, Miss Crabtree. You can blame this'un on my
Daddy. The reason I'm three hours late is my Daddy sleeps naked!"

Now, Miss Crabtree had taught grammar school for thirty-some-odd years.
Despite her mounting fears, she asked little Sammy what he meant by that.

Full of grins and mischief, and in the flower of his youth, little Sammy
and trouble were old friends, but he always told her the truth.

"You see, Miss Crabtree, out at the ranch we got this here low down
coyote. The last few nights, he done ate six hens and killed Ma's best
milk goat. Last night, when Daddy heard a noise out in the chicken pen,
he grabbed his shot gun and said to Ma, "That coyote's back again, I'm a
gonna git him!''

"Stay back, he whispered to all us kids!

"He was naked as a jaybird, no boots, no pants, no shirt! To the hen
house he crawled, just like an Injun on the snoop. Then, he stuck that
double barreled 12 gauge shot gun through the window of the coop."

"As he stared into the darkness, with coyotes on his mind, our old hound
dog, Zeke, had done woke up and comes sneakin' up behind Daddy. Then, as
we all looked on, plumb helpless, old Zeke stuck his cold nose in
Daddy's crack!"

"Miss Crabtree, we all been cleanin' chickens since three o'clock this
mornin'!"

that's a bang up joke.

23 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:04:08am

re: #6 ladycatnip

Here's another example of the high school mentality in the WH. Absolutely. No. Judgment.

Wow. Just wow.

What a f#*king idiot.

24 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:04:21am

re: #17 gmsc

BTW, thanks much for that Futurama link you gave me. Been watching it little by little, savoring it slowly.

25 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:04:58am

re: #21 pink freud

...it needed killin'.

funny thing is, in all these events, i've only found one corpse. the rest of the local animal population takes care of the rest.

26 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:05:57am

American Thinker has a great YouTube on the different reception of Dubya and Obama by the Marine Corps. Two extremes.

27 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:06:03am

re: #23 gmsc

Wow. Just wow.

What a f#*king idiot.

Isn't it fabulous how Obama has reconciled with our enemies and put fear into the hearts of Americans? Does any image illustrate so neatly the wrongheadedness of the Obama administration than Americans scrambling in terror from Air Force One?

-Trantor-, quoted on AoSHQ

28 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:06:25am

re: #25 redc1c4

funny thing is, in all these events, i've only found one corpse. the rest of the local animal population takes care of the rest.

Waste not, want not..............

29 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:06:40am

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

BTW, thanks much for that Futurama link you gave me. Been watching it little by little, savoring it slowly.

You're welcome!

One of my favorite lines from Futurama:

(Bender is visiting the Head Museum, and talking to the heads of the former US Presidents)

Bender: You know, I like it here. What's the rent on one of these jars?

George H.W. Bush: Sorry, Bender, but we just can't allow every Tom, Dick, and Harry to move in. No offence, Jefferson, Nixon and Truman.

30 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:08:18am

re: #6 ladycatnip

That man apologizes REAL well. Fast too. Stupid (self deleted). Just as Charles predicted.

31 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:08:40am

re: #25 redc1c4

funny thing is, in all these events, i've only found one corpse. the rest of the local animal population takes care of the rest.

Like this?

32 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:10:05am

Did all the late night folks hear about DustyVets problems?
I can go lookee for links, if not.....

33 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:10:30am

re: #30 Floral Giraffe

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old rancher, who's hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our president.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a 'Post Turtle''.
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was.

The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.

The old rancher saw the puzzled look on the doctor's face so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, and he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put him up there to begin with'.

34 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:11:13am

re: #32 Floral Giraffe

Did all the late night folks hear about DustyVets problems?
I can go lookee for links, if not.....

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

35 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:11:59am

re: #33 Pietr

LOL! And that's nicer than what I would do to him, given a chance!
Stuck on a post & removable?

36 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:12:13am

How much you wanna bet that some White House staffer has uttered this phrase in the last 100 days:

'These are our planes now!'

37 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:12:14am

re: #32 Floral Giraffe

Did all the late night folks hear about DustyVets problems?
I can go lookee for links, if not.....

i heard his sister passed away unexpectedly..... is there anything else?

38 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:12:19am

re: #27 redc1c4

Isn't it fabulous how Obama has reconciled with our enemies and put fear into the hearts of Americans? Does any image illustrate so neatly the wrongheadedness of the Obama administration than Americans scrambling in terror from Air Force One?

-Trantor-, quoted on AoSHQ

I'm starting up a collection for a fund. The fund will be paid to the first news reporter who asks 0bama about this incident, specifically using the phrase, "Are there any other teenage-level pranks you wish to pull as president of the United States?"

39 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:12:32am

27 redc1c4

Isn't it fabulous how Obama has reconciled with our enemies and put fear into the hearts of Americans? Does any image illustrate so neatly the wrongheadedness of the Obama administration than Americans scrambling in terror from Air Force One?

The brain-dead mentality of the msm and his loyal koolaid drinking followers should make heads explode. This stunt is unconscionable. Apologies should NOT be accepted, and whomever gave the thumbs-up for this should be fired. Can you imagine if a republican WH did this? Front page for weeks; New Yorker's would demand compensation for therapy and PTSD. Lawsuits, media circus - it would be a stinkin media frenzy.

But this stunt in Obama's WH? A big fat yawn.

40 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:14:12am

re: #36 Fenway_Nation

How much you wanna bet that some White House staffer has uttered this phrase in the last 100 days:

'These are our planes now!'

wanna bet that there is one or more emails from the Squadron saying "are you sure this is a good idea?"

41 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:14:13am

re: #39 ladycatnip

How hard would it have been to get the word out.....even pulling a stunt like this could have been no big deal if folks had known it was coming..

42 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:14:23am

re: #30 Floral Giraffe

Actually, checkered capybara, he has *not* apologized.

After we've had to look at his yammering maw damn near every day for the last three months, for once, the man is silent as a tomb.

His *people* apologized. He said nothing.

/ on the nic alteration :-)

43 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:14:44am

China Faces a Grad Glut After Boom at Colleges

Zhang Weidong has been making the rounds at this city's weekend talent fair for more than a month now and can't understand why he hasn't landed a job.

/wait until he tries to find female companionship in China

44 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:15:50am

re: #39 ladycatnip

27 redc1c4

The brain-dead mentality of the msm and his loyal koolaid drinking followers should make heads explode. This stunt is unconscionable. Apologies should NOT be accepted, and whomever gave the thumbs-up for this should be fired. Can you imagine if a republican WH did this? Front page for weeks; New Yorker's would demand compensation for therapy and PTSD. Lawsuits, media circus - it would be a stinkin media frenzy.

But this stunt in Obama's WH? A big fat yawn.

my money is on the WH saying "shut up and do it" when some sane blue suiter said "WTF?"

45 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:15:59am

re: #37 redc1c4

He can't afford to go for the funeral, until his VA money comes on the 1st of the month, so Walter invited the lizards to help out. Hoosier Hoops is covering the plane fare, and others are chipping in. Great community support! GO LIZARDS!

46 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:16:40am

re: #43 Killian Bundy

China Faces a Grad Glut After Boom at Colleges

/wait until he tries to find female companionship in China

or food that is safe to eat.

47 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:16:57am

Funny, I should really be asleep, but I am rather enjoying the quiet house too much... between the baby teething, the better half's injury, and the boy being 4...it's been a long week already

48 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:17:43am

re: #45 Floral Giraffe

Now that's community organizing!

49 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:18:06am

re: #37 redc1c4

i heard his sister passed away unexpectedly..... is there anything else?

My #34 is Dustys' post on his sisters death. I understand Walter has been in contact with Him and is directing board help, and RW is also. If someone has a link, please post it, otherwise you need to touch base with Walter or Realwest, redc1c4.

50 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:18:47am

re: #45 Floral Giraffe

He can't afford to go for the funeral, until his VA money comes on the 1st of the month, so Walter invited the lizards to help out. Hoosier Hoops is covering the plane fare, and others are chipping in. Great community support! GO LIZARDS!

Who does someone get in touch with to kick in? I know that I don't know you folks all that well, but when something like this comes up, I always want to help out, even if it's just a little.....

51 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:18:54am

re: #6 ladycatnip

Here's another example of the high school mentality in the WH. Absolutely. No. Judgment.

You think this is funny, 0bama? Do you really?

If you think that's funny, I've got hours of TV at which you can laugh and laugh. Of course, being Barack 0bama, I have no doubt you would actually think that's funny.

52 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:19:02am

re: #37 redc1c4

I didn't catch it all red, but there was mention of lizards donating thru paypal to so that he could fly for the services, I believe. I believe someone donated frequent flier miles also. Real and Walter coordinated the email effort. I have the info if you (or anyone else here) would like to email me.

53 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:20:23am

re: #49 Pietr

My #34 is Dustys' post on his sisters death. I understand Walter has been in contact with Him and is directing board help, and RW is also. If someone has a link, please post it, otherwise you need to touch base with Walter or Realwest, redc1c4.

i read #45, but there's not much i can offer besides moral support. if i get called in this week for a day, that will make 32 hours for the month, and those are the first paid hours i've had since last spring.

good thing HRH likes me.

54 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:20:40am

re: #50 srb1976

re: #52 pink freud

Back with linkys in a few....

55 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:21:25am

Texts From Last Night

56 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:22:12am

41srb1976

How hard would it have been to get the word out.....even pulling a stunt like this could have been no big deal if folks had known it was coming..

It probably wouldn't have made the news - BUT - to even contemplate this is beyond the pale. Who thought this up? And for a photo-op? From the moment the One was inaugurated, he and his minions have behaved as though America was just one big playground.

Fenway_Nation puts it very aptly in post #36:

How much you wanna bet that some White House staffer has uttered this phrase in the last 100 days:

'These are our planes now!'

Which leads us full circle right back to high school. Maybe I'm being too generous. How about junior high.

57 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:23:31am

re: #50 srb1976

My nic is blue if you want to email me, srb. I have Dusty's paypal info.

58 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:23:39am

re: #7 Killian Bundy

I would like to know who was behind Rosa Brooks getting her Pentagon job. There is a story there, a big story.

59 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:28:13am

Raising Bill Gates

Spend time with the family of Bill Gates, and eventually someone will mention the water incident.

The future software mogul was a headstrong 12-year-old and was having a particularly nasty argument with his mother at the dinner table. Fed up, his father threw a glass of cold water in the boy's face.

"Thanks for the shower," the young Mr. Gates snapped

.

/and he punished us all with Windows to get back at his father

60 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:28:30am

re: #57 pink freud
Thank you. I totally struck out on my searches! Dusty is worthy of support in this tough time! Thanks!

61 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:28:49am

re: #58 MrPaulRevere

I would like to know who was behind Rosa Brooks getting her Pentagon job. There is a story there, a big story.



"She does though have experience working as Special Counsel for George Soros's Open Society Institute in New York, and as a former adviser to Harold Koh, the hugely controversial nominee for Legal Adviser to the State Department."

..and Koh is bigtime bad news

62 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:29:29am

re: #44 redc1c4

my money is on the WH saying "shut up and do it" when some sane blue suiter said "WTF?"

As I understand it, the NYC police were informed well beforehand. They were then told, or decided themselves, not to inform the public for some unexplained, unfathomable reason.

Has anyone heard what the purpose of this was? I've heard it was a staged photo op, but don't know anything about what it's supposed to be used for?

747...Empire State Building...military jets in escort...

I'm thinking "Presidential campaign ad." Er, I mean "public service announcement."

63 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:30:48am

re: #57 pink freud
You should have mail...thanks,
I put in a different e-mail to send info too, because I don't usually have this much time on my hands @ home = )

64 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:30:50am

re: #62 SixDegrees

As I understand it, the NYC police were informed well beforehand. They were then told, or decided themselves, not to inform the public for some unexplained, unfathomable reason.

Has anyone heard what the purpose of this was? I've heard it was a staged photo op, but don't know anything about what it's supposed to be used for?

747...Empire State Building...military jets in escort...

I'm thinking "Presidential campaign ad." Er, I mean "public service announcement."

they wanted it to be a surprise gift to the NYC area?

65 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:30:52am

re: #62 SixDegrees

It's 0bama playing with/showing off his new toys.

He won.

66 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:32:06am

re: #63 srb1976

You should have mail...thanks,
I put in a different e-mail to send info too, because I don't usually have this much time on my hands @ home = )

Benadryl is a mother's best friend!

67 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:32:33am

re: #65 pink freud

It's 0bama playing with/showing off his new toys.

He won.

yeah, but he's still a loser.

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:33:34am

re: #51 gmsc

The latest scuttlebutt is that he's pissed, not laughing.

Either way, it's a big fuck up. Blame will be placed, heads will roll, and it will be business as usual going forward. I wish I was being sarcastic.

69 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:33:37am

re: #62 SixDegrees

I'm thinking "Presidential campaign ad." Er, I mean "public service announcement."

You got that right-Ba*tard has been continuously campaigning ever since Election day............

Sptttttt...

70 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:34:06am

re: #66 redc1c4

Benadryl is a mother's best friend!

Actually, the kids are the easy part, better half managed to get his hand pinned between a log and a chainsaw last week, and burnt the tip of one his fingers off (literally) on the chainsaw exhaust..... and of course it's his good hand.....so no fun at all

71 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:34:11am

re: #63 srb1976

Replied to the email addy you sent. Thank you, srb.

72 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:34:15am

re: #39 ladycatnip

27 redc1c4

The brain-dead mentality of the msm and his loyal koolaid drinking followers should make heads explode. This stunt is unconscionable. Apologies should NOT be accepted, and whomever gave the thumbs-up for this should be fired. Can you imagine if a republican WH did this? Front page for weeks; New Yorker's would demand compensation for therapy and PTSD. Lawsuits, media circus - it would be a stinkin media frenzy.

But this stunt in Obama's WH? A big fat yawn.

It would be fascinating to compare the upcoming coverage (especially the reactions) of this story with the reactions to Reagan's famous "I just signed a bill that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in 5 minutes."

The more I watch the coverage at the Sept. 11th Television Video Archive, the stupider 0bama looks.

73 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:34:18am

re: #69 Pietr

I'm thinking "Presidential campaign ad." Er, I mean "public service announcement."

You got that right-Ba*tard has been continuously campaigning ever since Election day............

Sptttttt...

those that can, do. those that can't, campaign.

74 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:36:48am

re: #72 gmsc

It would be fascinating to compare the upcoming coverage (especially the reactions) of this story with the reactions to Reagan's famous "I just signed a bill that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in 5 minutes."

The more I watch the coverage at the Sept. 11th Television Video Archive, the stupider 0bama looks.

it's hard to believe that's possible...... he was carved out of a solid block of concentrated stupid, then powder coated with a fine layer of bullshit.

75 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:37:46am

re: #71 pink freud

Thank you.... I always feel better when I can DO something to help.... much easier than trying to figure out what to say

76 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:37:55am

re: #70 srb1976

Actually, the kids are the easy part, better half managed to get his hand pinned between a log and a chainsaw last week, and burnt the tip of one his fingers off (literally) on the chainsaw exhaust..... and of course it's his good hand.....so no fun at all

ouch.

that's gonna play hell with his love life too!

/white smoke %-)

77 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:37:57am

re: #74 redc1c4

it's hard to believe that's possible...... he was carved out of a solid block of concentrated stupid, then powder coated with a fine layer of bullshit.

Didn't you get that backwards-or maybe it's 50/50...........

78 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:38:04am

re: #67 redc1c4

I regret having only one upding for that!

79 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:38:15am

re: #68 Slumbering Behemoth

The latest scuttlebutt is that he's pissed, not laughing.

Either way, it's a big fuck up. Blame will be placed, heads will roll, and it will be business as usual going forward. I wish I was being sarcastic.

Right. pissed. He's not pissed. If he were really pissed he would not pass up this opportunity to come and publicly assert some of his new authority.

*Pissed* is what he decided would play well. It's not the reality of it.

80 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:39:41am

re: #78 Floral Giraffe

I regret having only one upding for that!

i'll take what i can get.... danke!

81 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:40:01am

re: #76 redc1c4

Way to recognize the implications....although, the massive amounts of narcotics sort of sap the will....

82 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:40:13am

re: #72 gmsc

Oh my goodness, gmsc. What a wonderful website.

83 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:40:51am

re: #79 pink freud

Right. pissed. He's not pissed. If he were really pissed he would not pass up this opportunity to come and publicly assert some of his new authority.

*Pissed* is what he decided would play well. It's not the reality of it.

personally, i think he and WAB are sitting in a room laughing their asses off over the whole thing......

84 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:41:20am

There are EIGHT headlines about the NYC plane flights on Drudge right now. The Zero will be apologizing for at least a couple of days. He does it well. IMHO.....

85 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:41:42am

re: #76 redc1c4

He's also horribly embarrassed at having been kept in the hospital for a week for what he calls "an ouchie finger"...... manly man and all that

86 Edouard  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:43:17am
But a goverment in which the majority rule in all cases cannot be based on justice, even as far as men understand it. Can there not be a government in which majorities do not virtually decide right and wrong, but conscience?--in which majorities decide only those questions to which the rule of expediency is applicable? Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience, then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume, is to do at any time what I think right. It is truly enough said, that a corporation has no conscience: but a corporation of conscientious men is a corporation with a conscience. Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice.

---Henry David Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience" (boldfacing mine)

87 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:43:42am

re: #83 redc1c4

personally, i think he and WAB are sitting in a room laughing their asses off over the whole thing......

That's exactly how I see it too. Exactly.

/'cept you forgot Axelrod and Rahm. They're laughing too.

88 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:43:52am

re: #81 srb1976

Way to recognize the implications....although, the massive amounts of narcotics sort of sap the will....

i burned the hell out of my good hand out at Ft Irwin on an ATWSS cartridge.

the military, in it's infinite wisdom, gave me no pain meds at all, even when they debrieded the wound the next day.....

it was like a bad western movie: all i could do was bite down on a rag while two big dudes held me down, and another held my arm for the doc.

/fuck government healthcare

89 mardukhai  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:44:27am

You can keep Mel Gibson, and his equally fascist playmate Danny Glover. (Don't get me started.)

90 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:44:32am

re: #84 Floral Giraffe

There are EIGHT headlines about the NYC plane flights on Drudge right now. The Zero will be apologizing for at least a couple of days. He does it well. IMHO.....

Only if you're a communist dictator....

91 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:45:16am

A 'Classified' Photo Op Turns Into a Soaring Blunder for the White House

The New York photo shoot wasn't the only one planned. The White House had scheduled a follow-up session on May 5 or May 6 in Washington, D.C., according to two government officials. The D.C. flyover has now been canceled, a government official said.

/this is far from over, the narcissism is palpable

92 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:45:26am

re: #84 Floral Giraffe

There are EIGHT headlines about the NYC plane flights on Drudge right now. The Zero will be apologizing for at least a couple of days. He does it well. IMHO.....

He has it Down PAT. He just finished a European Tour of Apologizing for America being so PISS POOR over the centuries, UNTIL he CAME forth to lead it from the garbage dump...

//////////////////

93 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:46:54am

re: #84 Floral Giraffe

There are EIGHT headlines about the NYC plane flights on Drudge right now. The Zero will be apologizing for at least a couple of days. He does it well. IMHO.....

OK, in 2012, Republicans need to put images of this NY flyby and people panicking over it (see video below) on every T-Shirt, billboard and TV ad we can find.

The ad will close with the text: VOTE FOR THE ADULTS

Youtube Video
94 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:46:57am

re: #88 redc1c4

i burned the hell out of my good hand out at Ft Irwin on an ATWSS cartridge.

the military, in it's infinite wisdom, gave me no pain meds at all, even when they debrieded the wound the next day.....

it was like a bad western movie: all i could do was bite down on a rag while two big dudes held me down, and another held my arm for the doc.

/fuck government healthcare

Holy shit! nothing hurts worse than a bad burn... while better half was in the hospital they had him on dilaudid, but sent him with just lortab.... he has naked bone sticking out the end of his finger....yeesh

and I totally agree about gov't healthcare.... too many horror stories there

95 Mardukhai  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:48:25am

re: #70 srb1976

Thank you, most sincerely, for referring to your husband as your "better half" -- few women I know would ever say such a kind thing about a man.

96 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:50:11am

re: #94 srb1976

Holy shit! nothing hurts worse than a bad burn... while better half was in the hospital they had him on dilaudid, but sent him with just lortab.... he has naked bone sticking out the end of his finger....yeesh

and I totally agree about gov't healthcare.... too many horror stories there

they going to put a tissue flap on the bone, or did they amputate?

/professional curiosity.

97 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:50:55am

re: #95 Mardukhai

Thank you, most sincerely, for referring to your husband as your "better half" -- few women I know would ever say such a kind thing about a man.

and with good reason.......

/white smoke

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:51:06am

re: #79 pink freud

I've not yet read anything that indicates it was his idea, but it is his admin., so there is heat that will stick to him on this. I am sure, though, that looking through the rolodex of reactions "pissed" was deemed the best approach.

Heads will roll, somebody(s) will lose their job(s) over this, and Obama will come out of this looking like a dude who cares.

99 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:51:18am

re: #82 pink freud

Oh my goodness, gmsc. What a wonderful website.

Thanks. It's interesting to watch, especially the early time where it starts much like any other day, and then turns horrifying.

100 Mardukhai  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:52:02am

I'm on vicodin for a knee surgery and a root canal that went very, very wrong. That's not to mention the soma for the back spasm and the ibuprofen for the bad feet.

AUGH!

101 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:52:30am

re: #96 redc1c4

actually, neither yet, because of the crushing, they wanted to wait to see how much tissue would actually die before doing anything. they will be taking some of his finger off....how much we find out tomorrow

102 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:52:33am

re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth

I've not yet read anything that indicates it was his idea, but it is his admin., so there is heat that will stick to him on this. I am sure, though, that looking through the rolodex of reactions "pissed" was deemed the best approach.

Heads will roll, somebody(s) will lose their job(s) over this, and Obama will come out of this looking like a dude who cares.

i want to see the email where he okay'd it..... except it's already been deleted and scrubbed.

103 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:52:55am

re: #93 gmsc

The only problem I see, is who ARE these adults? I don't see anyone on the horizon, and I am VERY sorry to say that!

104 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:53:47am

re: #95 Mardukhai

Thank you, most sincerely, for referring to your husband as your "better half" -- few women I know would ever say such a kind thing about a man.

I only do it because he very much is.....don't know how I got by without him, wouldn't want to try it now....we've pretty much been together my entire adult life

105 Mardukhai  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:53:54am

Not funny Red.

I'm a Jewish guy from LA, and I know of which I speak.

106 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:53:55am

re: #99 gmsc

Thanks. It's interesting to watch, especially the early time where it starts much like any other day, and then turns horrifying.

i remember that morning quite well, and i'm not sure i need to relive it. i sure as hell will never forget it, nor will i ever forgive.

107 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:55:32am

re: #106 redc1c4

i remember that morning quite well, and i'm not sure i need to relive it. i sure as hell will never forget it, nor will i ever forgive.

Funny, I was glued to the news for days afterwards....now I can't bear to watch the footage.....
My little guy was born Sept. 10th and the first thing I thought was "thank god he didn't wait til tomorrow"

108 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:56:35am

re: #103 Floral Giraffe

The only problem I see, is who ARE these adults? I don't see anyone on the horizon, and I am VERY sorry to say that!

Well, anyone compared to 0bama, at this stage.

109 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:57:06am

re: #105 Mardukhai

Not funny Red.

I'm a Jewish guy from LA, and I know of which I speak.

maybe you need a better class of women to be around? not every woman in LA is an empty headed shrewish bimbo: it just seems that way, especially here in the SFV.

when i hear women bitching about the men in their lives i just point out it's their fault for picking the one's they do..... but that i'm already spoken for.

(and i refer to my 6 element as "my better 2/3rds" %-)

110 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:57:19am

Good night, Lizards of the evening. Sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite. I pray that all will be well with the USA, soon. We will get there. Hang on. Weet Dreams!

111 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:57:49am

re: #103 Floral Giraffe

The only problem I see, is who ARE these adults? I don't see anyone on the horizon, and I am VERY sorry to say that!

If you must use the word "adults", plaid gazelle, at least use "developmentally challenged" in front of it.

:-)

112 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:58:13am

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

Goodnight, sweetpea!

Sleep well.

113 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:58:37am

re: #103 Floral Giraffe

The only problem I see, is who ARE these adults? I don't see anyone on the horizon, and I am VERY sorry to say that!

Sarah, for one of a very short list.

114 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:58:37am

re: #93 gmsc

(see video below)

/lot's more where that came from

115 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:59:24am

re: #113 redc1c4

Sarah, for one of a very short list.

Wow, I'm so glad i'm not the only one who still likes her!

116 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:00:55am

re: #115 srb1976

Wow, I'm so glad i'm not the only one who still likes her!

she's the only reason McLame got the two votes in our household....

not that it mattered in California anyway.

117 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:02:25am

re: #116 redc1c4

she's the only reason McLame got the two votes in our household....

not that it mattered in California anyway.

She's the only reason he got my vote too...didn't matter in alabama either, but in a different direction.....

118 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:03:08am

re: #114 Killian Bundy

/lot's more where that came from

Oh, yes! Many more!

119 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:03:37am

re: #102 redc1c4

Well, the question is: Was it his idea, or the idea of a douchebag he has appointed? There is a difference.

We'll see how it plays out. But one thing will remain true, this event was a display of terribly poor judgment. On the part of the person who made this decision, and also on the part of the individual who hired that person.

I expect to see scapegoats trotted about over this.

120 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:04:18am

re: #116 redc1c4

she's the only reason McLame got the two votes in our household....

/at least you voted, unlike Killgore who just relentlessly bitches about one thing or another

121 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:04:40am

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, the question is: Was it his idea, or the idea of a douchebag who was his idea he has appointed?

FTFY

122 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:06:02am

re: #111 pink freud

If you must use the word "adults", plaid gazelle, at least use "developmentally challenged" in front of it.

:-)

No, ya got it wrong-it's Rosie Zebra......and they aren't adult or challenged, just STOOOOOOPPPPIIIDDD...........

123 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:06:03am

re: #117 srb1976

She's the only reason he got my vote too...didn't matter in alabama either, but in a different direction.....

deliberately set up for failure by the rinos running the "Deliberate Disaster" campaign, aided and abetted by the oh so sophisticated crowd that purports to be conservative, and hated and feared by the leftist scum.

she's my favorite for 2012: if the Republicans want my vote they have to go with her, or someone better, and that doesn't include all the other names the "experts" keep bandying about.

124 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:06:18am

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

I just can't agree, SB. I think it will be business as usual.

"What's the big deal, it was a stupid thing to do, we're sorry and we pwomise it won't happen again, now let us finish our waffles."

...and everyone will nod and say "more syrup, Mr. 0?"

125 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:07:02am

re: #121 gmsc

Dont yu corekt mai gramur yu baster!
/

126 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:07:06am

re: #120 Killian Bundy

/at least you voted, unlike Killgore who just relentlessly bitches about one thing or another

i thought that was you?

i confess that the two of you get a bit confused in my mind sometimes. %-)

127 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:07:19am

re: #124 pink freud

I just can't agree, SB. I think it will be business as usual.

"What's the big deal, it was a stupid thing to do, we're sorry and we pwomise it won't happen again, now let us finish our waffles."

...and everyone will nod and say "more syrup, Mr. 0?"

Well, if that proves to be the case, and terrifying pranks are OK by the president . . .

128 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:07:45am

re: #126 redc1c4

i thought that was you?

i confess that the two of you get a bit confused in my mind sometimes. %-)

/that hurts

129 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:07:55am

re: #122 Pietr

No, ya got it wrong-it's Rosie Zebra......and they aren't adult or challenged, just STOOOOOOPPPPIIIDDD...........

No no no. I renamed her. Didn't you get the memo?

/although I think I prefer checkered capybara

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:09:26am

re: #124 pink freud

I just can't agree, SB. I think it will be business as usual.

As I said in my #68, business as usual.

131 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:09:44am

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, the question is: Was it his idea, or the idea of a douchebag he has appointed? There is a difference.

We'll see how it plays out. But one thing will remain true, this event was a display of terribly poor judgment. On the part of the person who made this decision, and also on the part of the individual who hired that person.

I expect to see scapegoats trotted about over this.

somehow, i don't think this is an administration that believes in delegating authority: i can't see them letting any decision being made by underlings.

remember, Ear Leader was "surprised" at the w*rk load in his j*b.... he wasn't planing on having to actually *do* anything once he got there.

132 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:12:08am

re: #128 Killian Bundy

/that hurts

don't take it personal......

133 srb1976  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:12:15am

Ok folks, I have to take the kiddies to day care and better half to the doc in just a few short hours.... I am hoping that they only end up taking the first joint off of his finger, but we shall see.....

So I am going to have to get to sleep, see you folks later! Tomorrow I have to be up all night to switch over for night shift....yay!

134 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:12:30am

re: #131 redc1c4

somehow, i don't think this is an administration that believes in delegating authority: i can't see them letting any decision being made by underlings.

You misunderstand the 0bama rule:

1) When a decision proves beneficial and good, 0bama gets all the credit.

2) When the decision proves to be poor, 0bama had nothing to do with it at all, and was never even consulted on the matter.

135 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:12:47am

re: #132 redc1c4

don't take it personal......

/hey, I voted!

136 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:13:14am

re: #133 srb1976

Ok folks, I have to take the kiddies to day care and better half to the doc in just a few short hours.... I am hoping that they only end up taking the first joint off of his finger, but we shall see.....

So I am going to have to get to sleep, see you folks later! Tomorrow I have to be up all night to switch over for night shift....yay!

G'nite. {srb1976}

137 Pietr  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:13:20am

Pietr needs his sandbed-no fruitcup for him tonight...:>(( Just a reminder, let all know about Dusty's loss, and how they might help. They can contact Walter, RW, or Pink_freud for info, IIRC............

G'nite Lizard nation.....

138 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:14:34am

re: #134 gmsc

You misunderstand the 0bama rule:

1) When a decision proves beneficial and good, 0bama gets all the credit.

2) When the decision proves to be poor, 0bama had nothing to do with it at all, and was never even consulted on the matter.

hence my comment that the relevant emails have already disappeared from their respective servers.

139 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:15:06am

I think part of the man's plan is to habituate us to lowered expectations, fast and furious. Can anyone say that isn't an accurate descriptor of what we've been seeing for a hundred days. After a year of that, it will be much easier to proceed in implementing who knows what for the next three (or seven).

140 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:15:29am

re: #91 Killian Bundy

A 'Classified' Photo Op Turns Into a Soaring Blunder for the White House

/this is far from over, the narcissism is palpable

AT LEAST HE DIDNT CHOKE ON A PRETZEL!

141 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:16:06am

re: #133 srb1976

Ok folks, I have to take the kiddies to day care and better half to the doc in just a few short hours.... I am hoping that they only end up taking the first joint off of his finger, but we shall see.....

So I am going to have to get to sleep, see you folks later! Tomorrow I have to be up all night to switch over for night shift....yay!

good luck! i'll be hoping for the best.

142 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:17:02am

re: #139 pink freud

I think part of the man's plan is to habituate us to lowered expectations, fast and furious. Can anyone say that isn't an accurate descriptor of what we've been seeing for a hundred days. After a year of that, it will be much easier to proceed in implementing who knows what for the next three (or seven).

fail blog needs to start an "Ear Leader" section.....

143 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:17:27am

Nite all, I am out too. Nic is blue for you early risers out there who want to help out Dusty Vet.

Nite, everyone!

144 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:18:06am

re: #142 redc1c4

What is fail blog? Is that yours?

145 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:19:56am

Ooh, just got an email asking me to use one of my three BOA credit cards totaling almost 45K credit line.

Excuse me? I have a perfect FICO score and you just doubled the interest rate on the card I'm currently using.

/if it wasn't for the total credit line . . .

146 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:21:04am

re: #144 pink freud

What is fail blog? Is that yours?

mine is merely pathetic.... Fail Blog

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:21:29am

re: #131 redc1c4

Whether or not it was his idea (I'll doubt that until I see proof otherwise*), or the idea of an "underling", will be secondary. He will come out smelling like roses by admonishing or punishing whichever person is deemed responsible. This will be last week's news by next week.

*Sorry, after a minor bout of CDS in the early '90s, and seeing the last eight years of BDS, I am not ready to jump on every "Blame Obama For It All" trend. Catch his arse where he screws the pooch, but let's stick to facts, proof, and reason.

148 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:22:00am

re: #145 Killian Bundy

Ooh, just got an email asking me to use one of my three BOA credit cards totaling almost 45K credit line.

Excuse me? I have a perfect FICO score and you just doubled the interest rate on the card I'm currently using.

/if it wasn't for the total credit line . . .

skip a few payments and see if that gets you a better deal.....

149 pink freud  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:23:19am

re: #146 redc1c4

mine is merely pathetic.... Fail Blog

Oh funny! I shall explore over coffee in the morning. whenever I get up.

150 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:24:29am

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

Whether or not it was his idea (I'll doubt that until I see proof otherwise*), or the idea of an "underling", will be secondary. He will come out smelling like roses by admonishing or punishing whichever person is deemed responsible. This will be last week's news by next week.

*Sorry, after a minor bout of CDS in the early '90s, and seeing the last eight years of BDS, I am not ready to jump on every "Blame Obama For It All" trend. Catch his arse where he screws the pooch, but let's stick to facts, proof, and reason.

whatever happened to "The Buck Stops Here."? he's in charge, he won, he gets the bad with the good, and if he wants any slack, he can stop being an arrogant leftist asshole.'

until then, screw him.

151 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:26:02am

re: #148 redc1c4

skip a few payments and see if that gets you a better deal.....

Can't do it, once you give it up you'll never get there again.

/going to switch to charging on one of the other two and see what happens

152 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:33:28am

re: #151 Killian Bundy

Can't do it, once you give it up you'll never get there again.

/going to switch to charging on one of the other two and see what happens

i was being sarcastic, vis a vis the bailouts: miss a few payments on the house, or screw up your business, and *presto*, the government money fairy rains greenbacks down upon you....

153 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:34:25am

rats! i missed the little bugger and hit the metal sheeting. no more targets for hours.

guess i'll go to bed instead.

154 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:35:05am

UAW to Get 55% Stake in Chrysler for Concessions

The United Auto Workers union would eventually own 55% of the stock in a restructured Chrysler LLC under the deal reached by the union and the auto maker, according to a summary of the agreement that was reviewed by the Wall Street Journal.

/while no one's looking

155 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:35:55am

re: #154 Killian Bundy

UAW to Get 55% Stake in Chrysler for Concessions

/while no one's looking

what's 55% of nothing?

156 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:36:36am

re: #155 redc1c4

what's 55% of nothing?

/see GM

157 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:36:48am

Obama "the smartest guy in the room" doesn't seem to be able to relate to people in any way other than "Look at me, bask in my awesomeness". What a pack of geniuses we have running the show now.

What kind of dumbass thinks flying a jumbo around lower Manhattan unannounced is a good idea? Oh hey man, it's cool. September 11th is like, so Bush Administration, you know? It was all a totally fake war anyway. We're beyond that, man. /

If him or his people had any fckin' brains at all, they'd have staged a big media event with a very special Air Force One flyby coinciding with an outdoor fundraiser party or three.

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:37:44am

re: #150 redc1c4

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to run defense for him, but I am not going say "Obama ordered it" without further proof.

It is a lame fuck up, to be sure, and someone will take the blame for this in such a way that deflects the blame from the person in charge (Obama).

159 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:37:57am

re: #156 Killian Bundy

/see GM

nothing to see there......

/move along

160 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:40:21am

re: #159 redc1c4

nothing to see there......

/move along

It's only going to be 40% in GM, Obama gets 50%

/bond holders and stockholders get to scrum for the rest

161 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:40:50am

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to run defense for him, but I am not going say "Obama ordered it" without further proof.

It is a lame fuck up, to be sure, and someone will take the blame for this in such a way that deflects the blame from the person in charge (Obama).

i'm saying he must have okay'd it. they've already id'd the scapegoat: a former Bush appointee.

162 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:41:38am

re: #160 Killian Bundy

It's only going to be 40% in GM, Obama gets 50%

/bond holders and stockholders get to scrum for the rest

well, this *was* a great country.

163 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:43:07am

G'nite Lizards, give LoL my best.

/gah! swine flu! run away, run away!

164 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:43:15am

What happened to Dustyvet?

165 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:44:17am

re: #163 Slumbering Behemoth

You know how much MORE I would like you if you would stop linking to that picture?

Slumbering! :-)

166 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:44:27am

re: #164 littleoldlady

What happened to Dustyvet?

his sister died unexpectedly, and he didn't have the $ to get to the funeral until after the 1st. the usual suspects jumped in and fixed things.

167 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:44:54am

re: #161 redc1c4

i'm saying he must have okay'd it. they've already id'd the scapegoat: a former Bush appointee.

It's real simple.

/TOTUS gets credit for the remarkable coordinated, simultaneous triple sniper shot, he gets credit for terrorizing NYC yesterday

168 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:48:35am

re: #166 redc1c4

Oh, dear. :-( :-( :-(

169 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:49:41am

'Morning, Folks, and esp. LittleOldLady

I'll follow your President's advice and avoid travelling to the USA for the foreseeable future.

/Does this mean he's quarantining himself at home for this time ?
//Just Wondering.

170 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:50:06am

Is it wrong for me to think that most of the people scattering in terror in that video will probably vote for the same asshole again come 2012?

171 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:51:09am

re: #167 Killian Bundy

It's real simple.

/TOTUS gets credit for the remarkable coordinated, simultaneous triple sniper shot, he gets credit for terrorizing NYC yesterday

the SEALS and their trainers get the credit for the shots, since they took them.
Ear Leader only gets credit for finally manning up enough to let them take the shot, and that's only because the local CO pushed the envelope on his orders.

172 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:51:35am

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

173 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:53:36am

re: #170 Fenway_Nation

Is it wrong for me to think that most of the people scattering in terror in that video will probably vote for the same asshole again come 2012?

unfortunately no: from my exposure, NYC residents are idiots, but maybe that's because the only one's i meet are the ones that come out here to be in "the industry".

/y'all can go home now.

174 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:54:07am

re: #171 redc1c4

the SEALS and their trainers get the credit for the shots, since they took them.
Ear Leader only gets credit for finally manning up enough to let them take the shot, and that's only because the local CO pushed the envelope on his orders.

/Go Tell the Spartans

175 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:54:30am

re: #172 littleoldlady

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

/hands over a double scotch

176 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:55:14am

re: #175 redc1c4

red! :-)

That'll work, too.

/but can you make it a bourbon?

177 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:55:26am

re: #172 littleoldlady
Any Fruitcup left ?

I haven't posted in the last few days as I was on the Isle of Wight. The hotel claimed to have Wireless Internet but it didn't work for me.

Grrr...

178 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:56:04am

Just going over the FOX 5 coverage of Sept. 11, and they mention the then-upcoming 2001 Miss America pagent. They mention that 2 of the contestants didn't couldn't name the then-current vice president, Dick Cheney, and 4 couldn't name the date of the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

That seemed to be an interesting bit of irony.

179 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:56:20am

re: #174 Killian Bundy

/Go Tell the Spartans

another hollywood anti war movie..... appropo for this administration. all lies and bullshit being put out by allegedly pretty faces.

180 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:57:35am

remember my whacko law instructor?

turns out he lives in te Bay Area.....

/what a surprise. %-)

181 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:57:51am

re: #177 Pass The Moonbaticide


Redistribution of the wealth fruitcup hasn't begun yet........

182 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:57:55am

re: #179 redc1c4

another hollywood anti war movie..... appropo for this administration. all lies and bullshit being put out by allegedly pretty faces.

/but Burt ends up naked in a ditch

183 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:59:13am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

/but Burt ends up naked in a ditch

during the filming, or on the screen?

184 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 1:59:39am

re: #181 Fenway_Nation

Redistribution of the wealth fruitcup hasn't begun yet........

yes it has: FRUITCUP!

185 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:00:06am

fruitcup?

186 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:00:13am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

187 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:00:24am

re: #181 Fenway_Nation
Our Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, recently announced a rise in Income Tax Fruitcup Redistribution Levy from 40% to 50% on top earners.
I foresee massive Fruitcup wealth moving abroad.

188 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:00:28am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! Thank you!

189 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:01:10am

re: #185 redc1c4

Man! If I got multiple chances I could probably hit 2:00 on the nose.

;-)

190 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:01:13am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

needs a little more bourbon.

191 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:01:33am

gmsc! :-)

192 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:02:53am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Man! If I got multiple chances I could probably hit 2:00 on the nose.

;-)

i figure you've got some hip little application that posts it for you, whereas all i have is a recalcitrant computer and big fingers.

193 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:03:12am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning!

194 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:03:30am

re: #186 littleoldlady
... and I don't even have a cup of Tea to hand !

/Does Fruitcup keep or must it be consumed within the hour ?

195 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:03:56am

re: #191 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

My ISP kicked me off the internet for about 20 minutes, while they made some upgrades. I was worried I was going to miss fruitcup!

196 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:04:11am

re: #194 Pass The Moonbaticide


... and I don't even have a cup of Tea to hand !

/Does Fruitcup keep or must it be consumed within the hour ?

in the current configuration it will outlast even fruitcake.

197 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:04:38am

re: #192 redc1c4

WRONG!

/fatter fingers
//and I even type it out fresh every morning...

Matrix! :-)

198 Killian Bundy  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:05:16am

Dow Jones -106.00

Park your panic at the door.

/IT'S THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] FLU!

199 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:05:25am

re: #195 gmsc

My ISP kicked me off the internet for about 20 minutes, while they made some upgrades. I was worried I was going to miss fruitcup!

maybe we need GPS enabled fruitcup, for all weather capability?

200 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:05:48am

re: #194 Pass The Moonbaticide


... and I don't even have a cup of Tea to hand !

/Does Fruitcup keep or must it be consumed within the hour ?

re: #196 redc1c4

in the current configuration it will outlast even fruitcake.

Sorry. I can't top red's answer.

ROTFL!

201 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:05:54am

Has the Fruitcup been cleared for Export ?
I've heard from your Pres that America is dangerous, you know !

202 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:06:04am

re: #198 Killian Bundy

Dow Jones -106.00

Park your panic at the door.

/IT'S THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] FLU!

and we're all gonna die!

203 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:07:34am

re: #201 Pass The Moonbaticide

Has the Fruitcup been cleared for Export ?
I've heard from your Pres that America is dangerous, you know !

no, he said: "America is lead by a dumb ass", but his accent is difficult to understand.

204 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:08:14am

re: #200 littleoldlady

Sorry. I can't top red's answer.

ROTFL!

there's a tacky joke there, somewhere. %-)

/white smoke

205 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:08:31am

re: #198 Killian Bundy

Dow Jones -106.00

Park your panic at the door.

/IT'S THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] FLU!

Shit, you just reminded me I'm out of Vitamin C, lol.

206 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:09:12am

re: #201 Pass The Moonbaticide

Has the Fruitcup been cleared for Export ?
I've heard from your Pres that America is dangerous, you know !

0bama: To Chavez, he gives a warm handshake. To New Yorkers, he gives a couple of low fly-bys.

Again: asshole.

207 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:09:53am

re: #205 TheMatrix31

Shit, you just reminded me I'm out of Vitamin C, lol.

ethanol w*rks better.

208 redc1c4  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:11:51am

hasta y'all..........

L8r!

/what does a pig sneeze sound like, so i can avoid anyone with the flu?

209 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:11:55am

re: #201 Pass The Moonbaticide

Has the Fruitcup been cleared for Export ?
I've heard from your Pres that America is dangerous, you know !

No- just his airplane.

Thanks for the fruitcup, {lol}!

210 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:13:10am

re: #208 redc1c4

hasta y'all..........

L8r!

/what does a pig sneeze sound like, so i can avoid anyone with the flu?

Good night, man!

211 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:13:38am

'Night, red! :-)

Oink-choo?

212 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:13:51am

re: #206 gmsc
Yes, I heard that.

He low overflies New York for twenty minutes in a 747 without previous publicity ? Has he no idea of the concern he might cause ?
Imagine if Bush had done that.

Obama is short of Wisdom in worldly things. Goes with being a Leftist.

213 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:14:02am

Sharmuta! :-) :-) :-)

214 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:17:05am

THIS SWINE FEVER OUTBREAK IS A JEWISH CONSPIRACY TO INFECT MUSLIMS WITH PIG DISEASES !

/I can see that as a headline in Arab Newspapers.

215 little blessing  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:18:07am

Hi Everybody!

So far no confirmed cases of Swine flu here.

216 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:21:58am

re: #212 Pass The Moonbaticide


Yes, I heard that.

He low overflies New York for twenty minutes in a 747 without previous publicity ? Has he no idea of the concern he might cause ?
Imagine if Bush had done that.

Obama is short of Wisdom in worldly things. Goes with being a Leftist.

I've already mentioned that the reaction to this will be interesting to compare to Reagan's "Bombing of Russia" mistake.

Have you seen the video below? Or the others?

Youtube Video

I'll be mentioning this everytime a liberal mentions 0bama for a loooooooong time!

217 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:25:17am

little blessing! :-)

218 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:26:38am

I would like to express my thanks to all LGF members who sent kind words of sympathy, and condolences to me on my sister Kathy's passing. A special thank you to Walter and Realwest who got out the word about assisting me with travel expenses ,so that I may attend my sister's funeral. To all LGF members who sent emails, offers to help, and made calls to me, I wish to say Thank You.
To all LGF members who made donations through Pay Pal, so that i could attend the funeral. I wish to express a deep Thank You. Travel arrangements have now been made, and any funds left over will be given to my

219 little blessing  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:26:43am

re: #217 littleoldlady

And Hello to you too! : )

220 little blessing  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:28:08am

re: #218 Dustyvet

Dear Dusty,

So sorry to hear about your loss. May you and your family have good health and long life. May your dear sister rest in peace.

Our thoughts are with you.

LB

221 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:31:26am

Good night, lizards!

Take care, dusty!

222 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:31:45am

re: #221 Fenway_Nation

Good night, lizards!

Take care, dusty!

G'Nite, Fenway!

223 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:31:49am

re: #218 Dustyvet

OH, I just was off searching for your email!

{[{DUSTY}]}

May you and your family be comforted among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.

224 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:32:21am

re: #212 Pass The Moonbaticide


Yes, I heard that.

He low overflies New York for twenty minutes in a 747 without previous publicity ? Has he no idea of the concern he might cause ?
Imagine if Bush had done that.

Obama is short of Wisdom in worldly things. Goes with being a Leftist.

The country's in the very best of hands!

Youtube Video
225 pass the moonbaticide  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:33:39am

re: #218 Dustyvet
Sorry I didn't get to hear of your loss. I was away from home and offline for a few days last week.

On behalf of all British Lizards I extend our sincere sympathies for your heartfelt loss , and for peace for yourself and your family.

226 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:35:23am

re: #218 Dustyvet

I would like to express my thanks to all LGF members who sent kind words of sympathy, and condolences to me on my sister Kathy's passing. A special thank you to Walter and Realwest who got out the word about assisting me with travel expenses ,so that I may attend my sister's funeral. To all LGF members who sent emails, offers to help, and made calls to me, I wish to say Thank You.
To all LGF members who made donations through Pay Pal, so that i could attend the funeral. I wish to express a deep Thank You. Travel arrangements have now been made, and any funds left over will be given to my sister's husband to help with the funeral expenses.

I will be sending out personal thank you messages to everyone who assisted. I have never been so moved by all that occurred yesterday. Thank You all, your all in my prayers. Goodbless...

Dustyvet

227 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:40:44am

re: #212 Pass The Moonbaticide


Yes, I heard that.

He low overflies New York for twenty minutes in a 747 without previous publicity ? Has he no idea of the concern he might cause ?
Imagine if Bush had done that.

Obama is short of Wisdom in worldly things. Goes with being a Leftist.

You know, the 0bama administration and his supporters keeps saying we should return to a 9/10 mindset . . .

228 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:45:24am

re: #223 littleoldlady

OH, I just was off searching for your email!

{[{DUSTY}]}

May you and your family be comforted among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.

Thanks Lady...

229 TheMatrix31  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:48:25am

re: #226 Dustyvet

I will be sending out personal thank you messages to everyone who assisted. I have never been so moved by all that occurred yesterday. Thank You all, your all in my prayers. Goodbless...

Dustyvet

Wow....I wish I was around when people assembled to help. That's a truly awesome gesture on the part of LGFers here...

I hope you're doing okay.

230 Dustyvet  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:51:57am

re: #229 TheMatrix31

Wow....I wish I was around when people assembled to help. That's a truly awesome gesture on the part of LGFers here...

I hope you're doing okay.

I'm doing fine. this random act of kindness by LGF folks is wonderful. I thank God for all of you.

231 littleoldlady  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:56:41am

I have to get going... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

{[{Dustyvet}]} Take care of yourself!

232 gmsc  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:57:27am

re: #231 littleoldlady

I have to get going... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

{[{Dustyvet}]} Take care of yourself!

G'nite, lol!

233 little blessing  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 2:57:42am

re: #231 littleoldlady

And you take care of YOURSELF!

Hope to talk to you soon.

234 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:30:10am

Morning Lizards.

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:33:18am

"Baby, can you dig your man?"

236 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:39:58am

Good morning, Lizards.

237 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:41:29am

Good Mornin' Goddess :-)

238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:42:33am

Hiya Goddess! Ranchy! Dusty!

239 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:42:50am

re: #236 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

240 gegenkritik  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:43:23am

Hey all, here's the origin of the picture with the altered background:

[Link: progelsenkirchen.wordpress.com...]

This is an antifa-site, a watchblog for pro-Köln and their affiliate pro-Gelsenkirchen. I think they crossposted this also in Indymedia, where I first saw it.

241 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:46:25am

AF1, what a STOOPID thing to do with an aircraft. A 747 with F16 in chase? Over Manhattan? Perhaps the photo-op was really all about the people screaming their heads off while they ran away from the buildings in panic.

242 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:51:53am

{UncleRancher}
{FBV}
{rigthside}
{gegenkritik}

243 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:52:51am

For those who wonder about the state of the Nut-sphere... WorldNutDaily is now pimping the idea that the current swine flu outbreak is bio-terrorism related.

244 yesandno  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:55:12am

Do you think the flyover was a part of a movie? Still don't understand what they meant by photo-op. It had to be of the plane itself, not of the plane taking pictures. And the use of one of the actual planes used for Air Force One. Who payed for this? And why? Inquiring minds want to know.....

And how long would it take to get back to Washington if it was needed?

245 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 3:56:01am

Who said when you play country music backward you get your wife back, your house back and your horse back?

246 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:02:41am

re: #243 freetoken

Or the other take, using swine flu as a method of making this country less Islam-friendly.

247 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:09:14am

Tower: 'Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on frequency 124.7'
Eastern 702: 'Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure. By the way, after we lifted off we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway.'
Tower: ' Continental 635, cleared for takeoff behind Eastern 702, contact Departure on frequency 124.7. Did you copy that report from Eastern 702?'
BR Continental 635: 'Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, roger; and yes, we copied Eastern... We've already notified our caterers.'

248 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:09:14am

re: #246 UncleRancher

Well, the Beckians are doing that bit on their forums...

249 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:14:43am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open lower due to fears about flu and the bank stress test results:

U.S. stock futures drop on bank, flu fears

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock futures dropped on Tuesday after a report the U.S. government is pressuring Citigroup and Bank of America to raise more cash and as the World Health Organization increased its threat level for the swine flu outbreak.

S&P 500 futures fell 15.3 points to 841.50 and Nasdaq 100 futures dropped 18.5 points to 1,354.70. Dow industrial futures fell 110 points.
U.S. stocks fell on Monday as worries about the swine flu outbreak offset gains for General Motors on a restructuring plan and Humana on a raised profit outlook. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 51 points, the S&P 500 lost 8 points, and the Nasdaq Composite dropped 14 points.
Markets worldwide on Tuesday were affected by a report in The Wall Street Journal that Bank of America and Citigroup have been told to raise more capital based on early results of the government's stress test. Executives at both banks are objecting to the preliminary findings, the report said.

Citi shares fell 6% and Bank of America fell 5% in Frankfurt trade.

According to the following death statistics, approximately 20,000 Americans die of flu complications every year.
Death Statistics Comparison

Killed in car accidents 42,116*
Killed by the common flu 20,000*
Killed by murders 15,517*
Killed in airline crashes
(of 477m passenger trips) 120 (1)
Killed by lightning strikes 90*
Killed by Anthrax 5

(1) Annual average over 19 year period.
*Average annual totals in United States.

Draw your own conclusions.

250 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:16:12am

For example, from the World Health Organization Is Worried That This Flu Is Mutating Into Something Stronger 9-12 forum thread:


Ashrak 75p · 12 hours ago
So when does the Muslim world tout a "See, we told you pork is unclean" ?


wildthing61 39p · 9 hours ago
Did you mean Obama?

DennisCPO_RET 42p · 9 hours ago
If a Muslim dies of Swine-Flu will he go to hell?

251 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:26:00am

Got to run. Chores, you know.

252 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:27:04am

This tells you all you need to know about this White House:
White House Official Apologizes for Air Force One Photo Op in New York City

White House Military Office Director Louis Caldera apologized for any panic caused by a flight mission and photo op that looked like Air Force One and fighter jets heading toward the New York City skyline Monday morning.

Caldera said he approved the mission last week and that federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey.

But for people who work in the New York financial district, the event brought back nightmares of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Numerous buildings in lower Manhattan evacuated in a panic during this morning's false alarm.

"It's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused," Caldera said in a White

House issued paper statement.

All these people care about is themselves, and getting good "photo op's" to advertise themselves.

I wonder what the carbon footprint was of this genius move, oh Messiah?

And if Bush had done this he'd be crucified in the MSM by now for this. Instead, the MSM looks the other way and blames a staffer.

253 katemaclaren  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:29:16am

Well, guys, good morning. Swine Flu is now in Philly.
I've sent some help to Dustyvet--and you can to--look for Walter's posts and send him an e-mail. Then you can make the connection.

Must go, I'm still mad about the flyover in NYC yesterday. A friend sent me cell phone video--panicked.

254 summergurl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:29:18am

re: #252 3 wood

This tells you all you need to know about this White House:
White House Official Apologizes for Air Force One Photo Op in New York City


All these people care about is themselves, and getting good "photo op's" to advertise themselves.

I wonder what the carbon footprint was of this genius move, oh Messiah?

And if Bush had done this he'd be crucified in the MSM by now for this. Instead, the MSM looks the other way and blames a staffer.

The audacity has ceased to amaze me.

255 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:29:48am

The Messiah gets ahead of the tele prompter again.
Obama gets ahead of prompter

President Obama’s speech at the National Academy of Sciences Monday morning hit a brief snag when Obama got ahead of his script.

Laying his plan for a President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, Obama began to name the members of PCAST listed in his prepared remarks – before realizing he’d already introduced them, earlier in his speech.

“In addition to John – sorry, the – I just noticed I jumped the gun here,” Obama said, pausing for several seconds as he looked at the prompter. “Go ahead. Move it up. I had already introduced all you guys.”

The audience, which gave the president a warm reception, responded with a quiet laugh.

256 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:31:52am

re: #253 katemaclaren

Must go, I'm still mad about the flyover in NYC yesterday. A friend sent me cell phone video--panicked.

For a White House who pounded McCain about his not being computer literate, you'd think this outfit would know how to do a photoshop and a computer simulation of Air Force One.

And you'd think the MSM would point that out to, but they are too busy servicing the President from their knees.

257 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:31:57am

re: #243 freetoken

For those who wonder about the state of the Nut-sphere... WorldNutDaily is now pimping the idea that the current swine flu outbreak is bio-terrorism related.

Ugh. I read somewhere that the Mexican gvmt (? is that right) has announced that this mess started back in February, and may be tied to houseflies from a Smithfield factory farm "lagoon?" And that one of the early cases was a 4 year old girl?

That seems to indicate that Mexicans are living and raising families within house-fly range of massive, open, hog-waste pools?

And Smithfield is the company that owns the pig farm there? Check out the map for lots of confirmed "serious" cases of Swine Flu in North Carolina:
[Link: maps.google.com...]

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:34:08am

Mornin' Wood!

They need adult supervision over at the White House?

259 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:34:51am

re: #256 3 wood

I saw an article yesterday, how the media has done more stories on FCBBHO than on clinton and Bush combined!

That's a lot of knobbin'

260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:35:23am

re: #257 funky chicken

Chicken? Ever been to Smithfield, VA?

It ain't perfume they are making over there; that's fer dam sure.

261 summergurl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:36:37am

re: #260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chicken? Ever been to Smithfield, VA?

It ain't perfume they are making over there; that's fer damham sure.

FIFY

262 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:36:41am

re: #257 funky chicken

I was at a house in Smithfield (hot summer day) that could not have been more than a mile from complete foulness.

Enjoy your bacon suckers!
/

263 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:38:12am

re: #259 rightside

Must go, I'm still mad about the flyover in NYC yesterday. A friend sent me cell phone video--panicked.

I saw the editor of Newsweek on O'Reilly last night, and the guy actually said with a straight face that they are not a left-wing operation.

I hope they go broke too.

O'Reilly pointed out that they went after Mel Gibson for his marital problems but had nothing to say about Sean Penn's problems. He did not respond. O'Reilly called it payback and the editor denied it.

264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:40:33am

re: #263 3 wood

Sean Penn has problems?

265 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:40:36am

re: #263 3 wood

They will, I believe. Along with the nytimes and the wapo. Consider this an open invite to any fellow lizards in the DC area, when wapo closes their doors, I will be there with a good riddance sign and celebrate!

266 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:42:58am

re: #255 3 wood

Since you mentioned the speech, I put a link to it in the spin-offs.

267 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:44:44am

Good Morning LGF.

Up here in the Great White North we got thousands of Tamil-Canadians waving the terrorist Tamil Tiger flag and blocking the streets of Toronto, demonstrating in front of the US consulate; demanding that Canada stop the Sri Lankan government from defeating the terrorists who use the Tamil civilians as shields, and vowing not to surrender the street to its rightful users until something is done for their countrymen.

Ya just gotta love that hyphenated-immigrant multi-cultural Canadian reality./

268 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:45:05am

The UAW and the government is going to own Chrysler:
UAW Said to Get 55% Chrysler Ownership, Board Seats

April 28 (Bloomberg) -- The United Auto Workers union’s retiree health-care fund will own 55 percent of Chrysler LLC in exchange for cutting in half the automaker’s $10.6 billion cash obligation to the trust, people familiar with the matter said.

Under the terms of the contract, the trust would get representation on the company’s board of directors, said two people briefed on the deal, who asked not to be named because the matter is private.

The tentative agreement was approved unanimously by UAW leaders yesterday

and will be sent to union locals for ratification, one of the people said. Chrysler, operating with $4 billion in U.S. loans, faces an April 30 deadline to restructure its costs or risk losing government support.

“With employees effectively sharing the risks, this could play to the advantage of the ailing company,” said Howard Wheeldon, a senior strategist at BGC Partners LP in London. The UAW role, if confirmed, may be the only “feasible way of moving forward,” he added.

The U.S. Treasury, which still is negotiating on Chrysler’s behalf with the company’s secured lenders, has little room to give the banks more equity. Fiat SpA would get 20 percent of the company to start, with the ability to increase ownership to 35 percent by hitting performance goals. The Treasury would keep 10 percent.

This is Karl Marx's dream, the workers and the government will own the means of production. And the government will use out taxes to make sure that the unions keep getting their pay and benefits.

269 3 wood  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:46:44am

Got to go to work so the government can take my taxes and pay for another photo op for the Messiah.

270 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:48:57am

*oink*
*snort*
damn flu bug
*oink*
*snort*

271 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:50:43am

re: #260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, but I've read lots of articles over the years about Smithfield's "lagoons" and the efforts of communities in North Carolina and maybe Virginia to regulate them.

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

We may have this century's Chicago/Swift meatpackers case.

If the Smithfield places are horrible in this country, it's hard to imagine how beyond ... vile ... they must be in Mexico.

272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:51:13am

re: #270 Spare O'Lake

Heh, my wife asked me this morning if she should be avoiding bacon. She asked me! Wanna guess my answer?

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:51:57am

re: #271 funky chicken

Oh, I can't imagine.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:52:33am

Ran vinegar through the coffee maker yesterday. Extra damn fine coffee this morning.

275 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:56:24am
The lagoons themselves are so viscous and venomous that if someone falls in it is foolish to try to save him. A few years ago, a truck driver in Oklahoma was transferring pig shit to a lagoon when he and his truck went over the side. It took almost three weeks to recover his body. In 1992, when a worker making repairs to a lagoon in Minnesota began to choke to death on the fumes, another worker dived in after him, and they died the same death. In another instance, a worker who was repairing a lagoon in Michigan was overcome by the fumes and fell in. His fifteen-year-old nephew dived in to save him but was overcome, the worker's cousin went in to save the teenager but was overcome, the worker's older brother dived in to save them but was overcome, and then the worker's father dived in. They all died in pig shit.
The chairman of Smithfield Foods, Joseph Luter III, is a funny, jowly, canny, barbarous guy who lives in a multimillion-dollar condo on Park Avenue in Manhattan and conveys himself about the planet in a corporate jet and a private yacht. At sixty-seven, he is unrepentant in the face of criticism. He describes himself as a "tough man in a tough business" and his factories as wholly legitimate products of the American free market. He can be sardonic; he likes to mock his critics and rivals.

Luter grew up butchering hogs in his father's slaughterhouse, in the town of Smithfield, Virginia. When he took over the family business forty years ago, it was a local, marginally profitable meatpacking operation. Under Luter, Smithfield was soon making enough money to begin purchasing neighboring meatpackers. From the beginning, Luter thought monopolistically. He bought out his local competition until he completely dominated the regional pork-processing market.

But Luter was dissatisfied. The company was still buying most of its hogs from local farmers; Luter wanted to create a system, known as "total vertical integration," in which Smithfield controls every stage of production, from the moment a hog is born until the day it passes through the slaughterhouse. So he imposed a new kind of contract on farmers: The company would own the living hogs; the contractors would raise the pigs and be responsible for managing the hog shit and disposing of dead hogs. The system made it impossible for small hog farmers to survive -- those who could not handle thousands and thousands of pigs were driven out of business. "It was a simple matter of economic power," says Eric Tabor, chief of staff for Iowa's attorney general.

Smithfield's expansion was unique in the history of the industry: Between 1990 and 2005, it grew by more than 1,000 percent. In 1997 it was the nation's seventh-largest pork producer; by 1999 it was the largest. Smithfield now kills one of every four pigs sold commercially in the United States. As Smithfield expanded, it consolidated its operations, clustering millions of fattening hogs around its slaughterhouses. Under Luter, the company was turning into a great pollution machine: Smithfield was suddenly producing unheard-of amounts of pig shit laced with drugs and chemicals. According to the EPA, Smithfield's largest farm-slaughterhouse operation -- in Tar Heel, North Carolina -- dumps more toxic waste into the nation's water each year than all but three other industrial facilities in America.

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

276 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:57:35am

re: #230 Dustyvet

I'm doing fine. this random act of kindness by LGF folks is wonderful. I thank God for all of you.

It's not random, it's targeted. And if I may venture to speak on behalf of the community, LGF folks are just paying some interest on a debt that can never be repaid.

277 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:00:50am

re: #275 funky chicken

Amazing information on pig sh*t....

I eat very little pork - virtually none, really.

278 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:02:50am

re: #268 3 wood

The UAW and the government is going to own Chrysler:
UAW Said to Get 55% Chrysler Ownership, Board Seats


This is Karl Marx's dream, the workers and the government will own the means of production. And the government will use out taxes to make sure that the unions keep getting their pay and benefits.

Well why not have the UAW buy the whole damned thing? At least it would align the incentives of the UAW for once.

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:03:29am

re: #275 funky chicken

Ahem. Just sayin'.

280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:05:35am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ahem. Just sayin'.

Sorry. See why I can't stand vegetarians? Sanctimonious jerks they are!

281 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:06:35am

re: #268 3 wood

The UAW and the government is going to own Chrysler:
UAW Said to Get 55% Chrysler Ownership, Board Seats


This is Karl Marx's dream, the workers and the government will own the means of production. And the government will use out taxes to make sure that the unions keep getting their pay and benefits.

Buncha' fucking Commie bastards.

282 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:06:42am
One day this fall, a retired Marine Corps colonel and environmental activist named Rick Dove, the former riverkeeper of North Carolina's Neuse River, arranged to have me flown over Smithfield's operation in North Carolina. Dove, a focused guy of sixty-seven years, is unable to talk about corporate hog farming without becoming angry. After he got out of the Marine Corps in 1987, he became a commercial fisherman, which he had wanted to do since he was a kid. He was successful, and his son went into business with him. Then industrial hog farming arrived and killed the fish, and both Dove and his son got seriously ill.

Dove and other activists provide the only effective oversight of corporate hog farming in the area. The industry has long made generous campaign contributions to politicians responsible for regulating hog farms. In 1995, while Smithfield was trying to persuade the state of Virginia to reduce a large fine for the company's pollution, Joseph Luter gave $100,000 to then-governor George Allen's political-action committee. In 1998, corporate hog farms in North Carolina spent $1 million to help defeat state legislators who wanted to clean up open-pit lagoons. The state has consistently failed to employ enough inspectors to ensure that hog farms are complying with environmental standards.

Hog farms that contract with Smithfield differ slightly in dimension but otherwise look identical: parallel rows of six, eight or twelve one-story hog houses, some nearly the size of a football field, containing as many as 10,000 hogs, and backing onto a single large lagoon. From the air I see that the lagoons come in two shades of pink: dark or Pepto Bismol -- vile, freaky colors in the middle of green farmland.
From the plane, Smithfield's farms replicate one another as far as I can see in every direction. Visibility is about four miles. I count the lagoons. There are 103. That works out to at least 50,000 hogs per square mile. You could fly for an hour, Dove says, and all you would see is corporate hog operations, with little towns of modular homes and a few family farms pinioned amid them.

Studies have shown that lagoons emit hundreds of different volatile gases into the atmosphere, including ammonia, methane, carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide. A single lagoon releases many millions of bacteria into the air per day, some resistant to human antibiotics. Hog farms in North Carolina also emit some 300 tons of nitrogen into the air every day as ammonia gas, much of which falls back to earth and deprives lakes and streams of oxygen, stimulating algal blooms and killing fish.

Looking down from the plane, we watch as several of Smithfield's farmers spray their hog shit straight up into the air as a fine mist: It looks like a public fountain. Lofted and atomized, the shit is blown clear of the company's property. People who breathe the shit-infused air suffer from bronchitis, asthma, heart palpitations, headaches, diarrhea, nosebleeds and brain damage. When you fly over eastern North Carolina, you realize that virtually everyone in this part of the state lives close to a lagoon.

There are times when laissez-faire policies are not enough. Smithfield is a disgusting company, and they sell nasty, polluted meat.

283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:09:03am

re: #282 funky chicken

Chicken? You a vegetarian, aintcha?

284 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:09:19am

re: #282 funky chicken

And that's in North Carolina. Imagine what a huge Smithfield operation must look like in Mexico.

Globalization ain't all good.

285 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:10:27am

re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh, my wife asked me this morning if she should be avoiding bacon. She asked me! Wanna guess my answer?

You told her to please leave you aloin?

286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:11:37am

re: #285 Spare O'Lake

You told her to please leave you aloin?

I told her, "Well, to be safe; I'd avoid all meat products."

I think she believed me.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

287 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:12:02am

Good morning. The acting Director of the CDC was on TV this morning.
He said pretty much what Napalitano said about closing the Southern Boarder during this emergency. The prevailing wisdom is that we already have Swine Flu cases, so it's too late for that.
Is it just me, or does that sound silly?

288 eon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:12:31am

re: #281 MandyManners

Buncha' fucking Commie bastards.

Good morning, Lizards.

And like the Soviets, eventually they will find that there isn't enough money in their closed system to pay for everything.

Followed by finding out that they cannot make a "government-owned business" work because they cannot force people to pay more for something than it is actually worth.

In the end their great socialist experiment will collapse just like every one before it. All they'll manage is a (short) stay of execution for a failing system- namely, the UAW.

And what will they do then?


cheers

eon

289 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:12:49am

My wife and I were happy for 22 years... then we got married.

290 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:13:15am

re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chicken? You a vegetarian, aintcha?

NO, but I don't buy cheap pork. I actually don't like the taste of pork, but if I buy it for my husband or kids I buy the organic or at least family farm raised stuff from Niman Ranch or Organic Prairie.

A lot of my family used to farm, and most of them were driven out of it by the factory farming that has sprung up in the last 30 years. They couldn't compete with the pricing of multinational corporations, so ....

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:14:22am

re: #290 funky chicken

Okay, not a vegetarian, but a smart meat eater.

Good on you!

292 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:14:22am

re: #287 opnion

So I take it that if you want to shut down all travel to and from Mexico, then you won't mind if all the other nations in the world do likewise to travel to and from the US? (After all, we have the second largest number of infected.)

293 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:14:27am

re: #288 eon

And what will they do then?

cheers

eon

They'll blame Bush and conservatives for being greedy, stingy misers, and the cause of all the problems. And sadly, a plurality of people will buy it hook, line, and sinker.

294 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:14:55am

re: #287 opnion

Good morning. The acting Director of the CDC was on TV this morning.
He said pretty much what Napalitano said about closing the Southern Boarder during this emergency. The prevailing wisdom is that we already have Swine Flu cases, so it's too late for that.
Is it just me, or does that sound silly?

It's absolute insanity.

We have 50 confirmed cases, so let's leave open the borders so we can get another 5 to 10 thousand impoverished, panicked Mexicans bringing us more!

295 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:15:25am

re: #282 funky chicken

There are times when laissez-faire policies are not enough. Smithfield is a disgusting company, and they sell nasty, polluted meat.

For a detailed look at the nation's food production systems, see "The Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan.

By the way - those shit lagoons aren't regulated by the EPA. Any manufacturing firm dumping a fraction of the toxic waste concentrated feedlots do would have been shuttered years ago. They're full of drugs and pesticides because you have to dose the animals with that stuff in order to keep them marginally healthy in the bizarre conditions they're kept in.

296 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:17:21am

re: #293 rightside

They'll blame Bush and conservatives for being greedy, stingy misers, and the cause of all the problems. And sadly, a plurality of people will buy it hook, line, and sinker.

On the bright side, with Chrysler ownership split between the UAW & the government they should be able to compete with the Yugo.

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:17:23am

The new Chrysler!

298 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:17:46am

re: #292 freetoken

So I take it that if you want to shut down all travel to and from Mexico, then you won't mind if all the other nations in the world do likewise to travel to and from the US? (After all, we have the second largest number of infected.)

If we don't shut the border, that's exactly what will happen. The EU already made some noise about issuing a travel warning for Mexico and the United States.

It's either keep the border open in some sort of insane PC gesture, or lose tourism and business travel.

Period.

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:18:26am

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Baby, can you dig your man?"

Did anybody get (or notice) that?

300 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:18:29am

Guess what?
The source of the swine flu is Canada.
Some pig from Canada went on one of those cheap holidays to Mexico.
The rest will be history.

301 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:18:35am

Good evening, all.

My thoughts on majority rule...

Youtube Video
302 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:19:07am

re: #298 funky chicken

As I stated last night, every day there are thousands upon thousands of people crossing the border (legally) between TJ and San Diego. Are you saying you want to shut the gates and lock them for... how long?

303 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:20:14am

re: #294 funky chicken

It's absolute insanity.

We have 50 confirmed cases, so let's leave open the borders so we can get another 5 to 10 thousand impoverished, panicked Mexicans bringing us more!

That's what I think, isolate what we have & don't let it multiply by coming across the boarder. Napalitno said on Sunday that a boarder closure would put millions of dollars of commerce in jeopardy.

304 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:20:16am

The corralling of animals for slaughter is bad for the environment and the physical and moral health of all involved. Its terribly needless suffering, though I realize most people, and most of my friends, need their bacon and burgers.

I wish everyone who thinks all vegetarians are PETA nuts would try giving up meat for a year and see how they feel (not just physically but also about the idea of tearing flesh off of bone and swallowing it, of ten still bloody).

Yuck.

305 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:21:15am

re: #288 eon

Good morning, Lizards.

And like the Soviets, eventually they will find that there isn't enough money in their closed system to pay for everything.

Followed by finding out that they cannot make a "government-owned business" work because they cannot force people to pay more for something than it is actually worth.

In the end their great socialist experiment will collapse just like every one before it. All they'll manage is a (short) stay of execution for a failing system- namely, the UAW.

And what will they do then?

cheers

eon

They'll dodge the problem and blame the jeep conservative bastards who couldn't spare enough money to feed their system.

/it almost happened to Ford, what happened to that?

306 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:22:05am
307 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:23:19am

re: #304 tokyobk

[...](not just physically but also about the idea of tearing flesh off of bone and swallowing it, of ten still bloody).

Since you are in Japan....

On my own Top 10 Reasons to Love Being In Japan (I did live there for a few years):

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1. They fully embrace their inner omnivore.

308 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:23:31am

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Part 1:

Youtube Video

Part 2:

Youtube Video
309 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:24:09am
Millions of factory-farm hogs -- one study puts it at ten percent -- die before they make it to the killing floor. Some are taken to rendering plants, where they are propelled through meat grinders and then fed cannibalistically back to other living hogs. Others are dumped into big open pits called "dead holes," or left in the dumpsters for so long that they swell and explode. The borders of hog farms are littered with dead pigs in all stages of decomposition, including thousands of bleached pig bones. Locals like to say that the bears and buzzards of eastern North Carolina are unusually lazy and fat.

No one seems to be around. It is quiet except for the gigantic exhaust fans affixed to the six hog houses. There is an unwholesome tang in the air, but there is no wind and it isn't hot, so I can't smell the lagoon itself. I walk the few hundred yards over to it. It is covered with a thick film; its edge is a narrow beach of big black flies. Here, its odor is leaking out. I take a deep breath.

Again, all this information is about Smithfield operations here in the US, where there is at least minimal regulation.

I don't even have words to describe what they must do in Mexico.

310 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:24:37am

One theory about the original aversion to pork in Semetic and many African cultures is that it (apparently) has a similar taste as to human flesh and that the taboo reflected one against cannibalism.

311 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:24:59am
312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:25:02am

re: #304 tokyobk

Okay, off the high horse!
/

313 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:25:31am

re: #307 freetoken

No, its true. The Japanese are like the French. If it moves they eat it (and like to eat it while it is still moving if they can).

314 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:26:30am

re: #304 tokyobk

The corralling of animals for slaughter is bad for the environment and the physical and moral health of all involved. Its terribly needless suffering, though I realize most people, and most of my friends, need their bacon and burgers.

I wish everyone who thinks all vegetarians are PETA nuts would try giving up meat for a year and see how they feel (not just physically but also about the idea of tearing flesh off of bone and swallowing it, of ten still bloody).

Yuck.

I have never torn bloody flesh off the bone and swallowed it.
Your comment could have been written by a PETA nut.

315 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:26:46am

re: #307 freetoken

1. They fully embrace their inner omnivore.

Sushi and rare steak. Sounds really good.

316 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:27:09am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're right. Sorry. It is preaching. But I can't help it! Forgive me in the name of those poor little piggies.

And am I wrong? Doesn't the idea of eating flesh become absolutely putrid after a year or so?

317 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:27:12am

re: #302 freetoken

As I stated last night, every day there are thousands upon thousands of people crossing the border (legally) between TJ and San Diego. Are you saying you want to shut the gates and lock them for... how long?

As long as it takes to get the epidemic under control.

I don't want Swine Flu. I don't want my kids to catch Swine Flu.

It's the job of the US government to worry about the health and safety of US citizens, supposedly.

Instead they want to worry about getting enough Mexicans into SoCal to pick lettuce so the factory farmers won't have to pay minimum wage to farm workers.

318 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:27:20am

"Intelligent." "Eloquent." "Uniter." ...You keep on using (those) word(s). I do not think (they) mean what you think (they) mean....'

/apologies to the Princess Bride

319 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:27:26am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay, off the high horse!
/

Mmmmmm, horse ...

/Homer

320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:28:23am

re: #316 tokyobk

Ten years. Sometimes; steak on a grill smells really good (from a distance).

321 summergurl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:28:38am

re: #290 funky chicken

NO, but I don't buy cheap pork. I actually don't like the taste of pork, but if I buy it for my husband or kids I buy the organic or at least family farm raised stuff from Niman Ranch or Organic Prairie.

A lot of my family used to farm, and most of them were driven out of it by the factory farming that has sprung up in the last 30 years. They couldn't compete with the pricing of multinational corporations, so ....

I'm with you - I rarely buy pork but when I do it's the good stuff. The only meat, eggs, cheese, and milk I purchase is organic too - and most veggies.

322 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:28:40am

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

You don't eat chicken legs.

By the way, anyone here ever seen KFC in Japan? They leave a bit of a foot on the drumstick. I think in America that might freak people out since meat is better left looking very much like it was not once part of a living creature.

323 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:29:03am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did anybody get (or notice) that?

I didn't see it (just got here), but I got it.

324 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:29:11am

re: #316 tokyobk

You're right. Sorry. It is preaching. But I can't help it! Forgive me in the name of those poor little piggies.

And am I wrong? Doesn't the idea of eating flesh become absolutely putrid after a year or so?

Yes, you are wrong.
Poor little piggies my ass.

325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:29:43am

re: #323 OldLineTexan

I didn't see it (just got here), but I got it.

M-O-O-N! That spells "hit song"!

326 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:30:12am

re: #319 OldLineTexan

Mmmmmm, horse ...

/Homer

I was once back in my omnivore days in a sushi restaurant in the fish market in Tsukiji, jowels full of what I thought was rather chewy Tuna.

"How do you like that raw horse meat" my friend asked me...

327 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:30:14am

re: #322 tokyobk

You don't eat chicken legs.

By the way, anyone here ever seen KFC in Japan? They leave a bit of a foot on the drumstick. I think in America that might freak people out since meat is better left looking very much like it was not once part of a living creature.

If you're eating a BLOODY chicken leg, fire the effing cook.

Raw chicken is ill-advised. Sal Monella is not your Italian buddy.

328 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:30:50am

re: #317 funky chicken

As long as it takes to get the epidemic under control.

I don't want Swine Flu. I don't want my kids to catch Swine Flu.

It's the job of the US government to worry about the health and safety of US citizens, supposedly.

Instead they want to worry about getting enough Mexicans into SoCal to pick lettuce so the factory farmers won't have to pay minimum wage to farm workers.

Yeah, I never did by into the huigh minded platitudes about undocumented aliens. I do not see it as some attempt to be humane, but the importation of workers who get less than minimum wage , with benefits being picked up by the taxpayers.

329 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:31:09am

re: #326 tokyobk

I was once back in my omnivore days in a sushi restaurant in the fish market in Tsukiji, jowels full of what I thought was rather chewy Tuna.

"How do you like that raw horse meat" my friend asked me...

Raw horse is not something I'm scared of running into in Texas. I believe the Chinese buffets around here cook most everything.

/

330 summergurl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:31:13am

re: #304 tokyobk

The corralling of animals for slaughter is bad for the environment and the physical and moral health of all involved. Its terribly needless suffering, though I realize most people, and most of my friends, need their bacon and burgers.

I wish everyone who thinks all vegetarians are PETA nuts would try giving up meat for a year and see how they feel (not just physically but also about the idea of tearing flesh off of bone and swallowing it, of ten still bloody).

Yuck.

I'll keep my burgers thank you ---

Pass the ketchup.

331 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:31:29am

re:

332 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:31:30am

re: #324 Spare O'Lake

So, I take it you know I am wrong because you have given up meat for a year or so?

333 Shug  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:32:56am

Gooood moooorning lizardnam

334 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:33:30am

re: #333 Shug

speaking of pigs...lol nice nose!

335 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:33:44am

Smithfield:

That has happened several times to Julian and Charlotte Savage, an elderly couple whose farmland now abuts a Smithfield sprayfield -- one of several meant to absorb the shit of 50,000 hogs. The Savages live in a small, modular kit house. Sitting in the kitchen, Charlotte tells me that she once saw Julian collapse in the yard and ran out and threw a coat over his head and dragged him back inside. Before Smithfield arrived, Julian's family farmed the land for the better part of a century. He raised tobacco, corn, wheat, turkeys and chickens. Now he has respiratory problems and rarely attempts to go outside.

destroying North Carolina and farmers' lives.

336 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:34:01am

re: #304 tokyobk

BK! How are you? Long time no see.

337 Shug  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:34:17am

re: #334 rightside

speaking of pigs...lol nice nose!


the European mullahs though so

338 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:34:43am

re: #322 tokyobk

You don't eat chicken legs.

By the way, anyone here ever seen KFC in Japan? They leave a bit of a foot on the drumstick. I think in America that might freak people out since meat is better left looking very much like it was not once part of a living creature.

Is it considered a treat? I was served chicken feet in China, and my grandmother used to eat them. I never got into the hog lips, though.

Having hunted, killed, gutted, and butchered my own meat I have a pretty good idea of where it came from. And I've plucked a few chicken's out of Granny's yard (on orders, of course).

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:34:48am

Gotta run.

340 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:35:47am

re: #336 haakondahl

Hi, just on my Veggie soapbox today!

Meat eating sinners! You will all be reborn as pigs a North Carolina pig!

Repent!

341 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:36:23am

re: #337 Shug

I know! nothing like ginning up a controversy using photos from a french hog calling contest, or some such thing IIRC.

342 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:36:42am

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cheers, mate. Don't forget to check my #308 on the way out. c:

343 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:36:54am

re: #326 tokyobk

I like your stories, BTW, seriously. My uncle was in Japan from 1945-47 (guess why!) and I have always wanted to visit. I was too young (according to my parents) to go to the World Jamboree there in 1971 (IIRC).

344 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:39:24am

re: #340 tokyobk

Hi, just on my Veggie soapbox today!

Meat eating sinners! You will all be reborn as pigs a North Carolina pig!

Repent!

Nothin' could be finer
Than to be in Carolina
In the mooooor-o-orning!
Nothin' gets me shakin'
Like slaughterin' for bacon
In the mooooor-o-orning!

If I was a piggie
For only a day
As they slit my throat
You could hear me say
Nothin' could be finer
Than to be in Carolina
In the mooooor-o-orning!

/

345 eon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:39:26am

re: #287 opnion

Good morning. The acting Director of the CDC was on TV this morning.
He said pretty much what Napalitano said about closing the Southern Boarder during this emergency. The prevailing wisdom is that we already have Swine Flu cases, so it's too late for that.
Is it just me, or does that sound silly?

No, not silly. Completely stupid.

One of the first principles of containing a contagious disease is keeping the infected people away from the ones who aren't infected yet. Followed by "ring inoculations" of people who have been in contact with infected people to keep it from spreading like a Ponzi scheme. (The mathematics of disease contagion and pyramid rackets are remarjkkably similar.)

So far, neither the Mexican government (with its UK-style "national health care" system) or the U.S. government (with agencies like FEMA, Health and Human Services, etc.) have even attempted to do either one. In the case of Mexico, it's just a "socialized medicine" system in its usual operational mode- doing as little as possible on the grounds that its minions get paid the same whether they do anything or not. Reports from Mexico indicate that their hospitals, etc., are refusing to treat potential flu patients for fear of the personnel- who have not been immunized - being infected. (Never mind that Tamiflu is an OTC drug in Mexico- apparently no one in their Ministry of Health can connect the dots.)

Up here, while 12 million doses of Tamiflu have been sent to the five states in which infected individuals (number now up to 40) have been identified, no "ring" immunizations have been done, because the State Health Departments are waiting for the go-ahead from DHS, namely Janet Napolitano- who is wandering around in a haze of bureaucratic doubletalk, and who apparently thinks the most important thing on her calendar is a meeting in Ottawa sometime late next month, at which she and her opposite numbers from Mexico and Canada will "decide on a strategy". (Never mind all the experts from CDC and USAMRIID telling her what we should be doing, right now.)

What I'm seeing is a classic example of "analysis paralysis" at the national level in both countries- more or less thinking "if we 'study' the problem long enough, it will go away, and we won't have to actually commit ourselves to any course of action that might need to be explained later."

In Mexico's case, it's because their government ministry is full of time-servers who don't care whether they do the job or not- like I said, they get paid either way.

Up here, the problem seems to be a combination of;

1. An administrator (Napolitano) who, in keeping with both the Peter Principle and Parkinson's Law, has been promoted at least two levels beyond her level of incompetence, and has never been noted for being willing to do anything that might require her to put her career on the line to start with;

2. A group of higher authorities who are not listening to their own experts- mainly because they apparently have trouble with those experts being types they "disapprove" of on purely "philosophical" grounds (I mean, USAMRIID is Army, CDC is full of people who do experiments on poor defenseless bunnies, so both are Inherently Evil And Not To Be Trusted, in their universe): and

3. A Chief Executive (The One) who honestly does not understand the problem, and who is only getting advice from (1) and (2). And the actual experts can't get through this cordon sanitaire' of unicorn-handlers and puppy-sitters to actually explain The Facts of Life Re Contagious Diseases to Him.

I said before I was going to reserve judgment on this situation. It's no longer reserved. If The One and his minions do not get off their collective a$$ and let the pros do their job, we are looking at a serious cluster-f**k on the public health front. Period. Dot.

cheers

eon

346 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:39:56am

re: #292 freetoken

So I take it that if you want to shut down all travel to and from Mexico, then you won't mind if all the other nations in the world do likewise to travel to and from the US? (After all, we have the second largest number of infected.)

What I am saying that it seems silly for the government to say, since we already have cases that it is too late to shut the boarder. It is very difficult to isolate cases if we keep importing them.
I think that the government refusal to act on the boarder is about political cortrectness & economics , not public health.

347 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:40:43am

re: #338 OldLineTexan

Thanks OldLine.

I would be the first to kill animals and eat them if I had to feed my family. I have to respect someone who at least can do that. I just think the highest state is to cause as little suffering as possible, realizing that my veggie "religion" is run by fundamentalist nuts and holier-than-thou preachers.

Also, I know how I feel since giving up meat and I wish that light healthy feeling on everyone.

348 eon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:41:14am

re: #292 freetoken

So I take it that if you want to shut down all travel to and from Mexico, then you won't mind if all the other nations in the world do likewise to travel to and from the US? (After all, we have the second largest number of infected.)

Other countries are already restricting travel from the U.S. and Mexico. In fact, most of the European countries started "holding" airline flights from both countries two days ago.

cheers

eon

349 Shug  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:41:43am

I use my canine teeth, but I respect those who don't

350 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:42:39am

re: #343 OldLineTexan

I also know a vet who served at the same time. I bet those guys felt lucky to have missed some nasty fighting and if I had been a combat vet in the Pacific I would have been mad not to at least to get to enjoy Tokyo a few years.

351 tokyobk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:42:56am

re: #349 Shug

Haha. Funny.

352 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:43:57am

It's idiotic to scramble to "contain" swine flu cases that are already here while simultaneously leaving the border wide open and the floodgates (planes from Mexico) pouring.

idiotic

353 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:44:17am

re: #340 tokyobk

Hi, just on my Veggie soapbox today!

Meat eating sinners! You will all be reborn as pigs a North Carolina pig!

Repent!

I am a vegetable rights activist. I only eat meat, and I only eat carnivores.

354 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:44:23am

re: #348 eon

Other countries are already restricting travel from the U.S. and Mexico. In fact, most of the European countries started "holding" airline flights from both countries two days ago.

cheers

eon

United Airlines announced today , that they are scrubing down all aircraft that have been in Mexico. .Problem solved

355 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:45:05am

re: #347 tokyobk

We all have our crosses to bear, and I mean that. My actual religion is populated in the public eye at least with ID Creationists and other flimflammery.

I enjoy meeting "international" Lizards very much, and the personal stories are like travelogues to me.

But if I were to go vegetarian it would have to be Vietnamese-style cooking, as much as I like other Asian cuisines.

356 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:45:19am

re: #352 funky chicken

It's idiotic to scramble to "contain" swine flu cases that are already here while simultaneously leaving the border wide open and the floodgates (planes from Mexico) pouring.

idiotic


It seems completely counter intuitive.

357 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:46:28am

re: #345 eon

excellent comment

358 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:46:34am

re: #352 funky chicken

It's idiotic to scramble to "contain" swine flu cases that are already here while simultaneously leaving the border wide open and the floodgates (planes from Mexico) pouring.

idiotic


Indeed. This is one problem which is supposed to be addressed by a sound border policy. There is a reason for checks of innoculations by those wishing to enter the country. If we allow people to enter illegally, then we forfeit the ability to control the spread of well-known, immunizable diseases.

359 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:47:10am

I ♥ animals, they're delicious!

360 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:47:17am

Today is my long day, but after one problem patient at 10:30 AM the rest of the day is OK. Just got to get to 12, just got to get to 12, trying to hypnotize myself?

361 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:47:59am

re: #360 Nevergiveup

a little xylocaine to dull the pain?

362 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:48:18am

The government is advising no trips to Mexico , unless a business necessity. Meanwhile legal & illegal crossings from Mexico continue as usual. I must be missing something.

363 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:48:40am

re: #350 tokyobk

I also know a vet who served at the same time. I bet those guys felt lucky to have missed some nasty fighting and if I had been a combat vet in the Pacific I would have been mad not to at least to get to enjoy Tokyo a few years.

He was drafted out of college, and was on the boat to the Philippines when the first atomic bomb was dropped. They shipped him to Japan ASAP and changed his duties from artillery to medic. He spent the two years in an aid station basically playing town doctor to the local people, who were completely broken by the war. He and three buddies (all enlisted men) actually bought a small house; they had a cook, a gardener, and a houseboy. All were enlisted men. They gave the house to the houseboy's family when they left.

364 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:49:24am

re: #362 opnion

The government is advising no trips to Mexico , unless a business necessity. Meanwhile legal & illegal crossings from Mexico continue as usual. I must be missing something.

Now why would the Government advise against trips to Mexico? It's trips *from* Mexico that are the problem!

365 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:49:40am

re: #362 opnion

The government is advising no trips to Mexico , unless a business necessity. Meanwhile legal & illegal crossings from Mexico continue as usual. I must be missing something.

Yes, the fact is that due to long years of not doing much we are now incapable of doing anything.

366 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:50:18am

re: #364 haakondahl

Now why would the Government advise against trips to Mexico? It's trips *from* Mexico that are the problem!

If you go to Mexico, mightn't you come back?

/

367 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:50:26am

re: #359 rightside

Meat is murder.

Sweet, tasty, delicious murder.

/ C:

368 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:50:37am

re: #364 haakondahl

Now why would the Government advise against trips to Mexico? It's trips *from* Mexico that are the problem!

Cause if you go, you will come back.

369 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:50:51am

Russia to Test Fire at Least 5 New Ballistic Missiles

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Anyone tell Obama and gates?

370 johnnyreb  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:51:07am

re: #358 haakondahl

Indeed. This is one problem which is supposed to be addressed by a sound border policy. There is a reason for checks of innoculations by those wishing to enter the country. If we allow people to enter illegally, then we forfeit the ability to control the spread of well-known, immunizable diseases.

It boggles my mind that just a short 100 years ago, if someone tried to (legally) enter the country and appeared to be sick, they automatically got thrown into quarantine. No questions, no lawyers, no press, just either leave and go back to where you came from or they got invited to spend a week or better period to see if they had something nasty. Now we knowingly let people who are TB carriers to fly all around the world and come in and out of the country without conditions.

371 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:51:08am

re: #361 rightside

a little xylocaine to dull the pain?

Me or them?

372 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:51:41am

re: #371 Nevergiveup

Me or them?

Hey, flip a coin, just to be fair.

/

373 thebigolddog  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:52:26am

Our President was playing a game of P-I-G of with the ladies from UConn yesterday while the people of NYC were being terrified out of their minds:

In Impromptu Game, President Tops Uconn

Moments after congratulating the University of Connecticut’s women’s team for winning the national championship, in front of the South Portico of the White House, President Obama hustled the team over to the outdoor half-court, away from reporters and cameras. The president prevailed in a brief, impromptu game of P-I-G with a few of the players.

374 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:52:40am

re: #368 opnion

Cause if you go, you will come back.

Not if you get mixed up with the narco-terror gangs down there?

375 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:53:01am

Morning all.
Did the world end yet?

376 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:53:04am

re: #371 Nevergiveup

both! do you prefer yours with, or without epinephrine?

377 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:53:10am

re: #372 OldLineTexan

Hey, flip a coin, just to be fair.

/

If you mean me, scotch works better

378 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:53:23am

re: #373 thebigolddog

Our President was playing a game of P-I-G of with the ladies from UConn yesterday while the people of NYC were being terrified out of their minds:

In Impromptu Game, President Tops Uconn

Not S-W-I-N-E?

379 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:54:12am

re: #377 Nevergiveup

If you mean me, scotch works better

Just don't confuse xylocaine and xylophone again.

/

380 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:54:44am

re: #375 Lincolntf

Morning all.
Did the world end yet?

Yes; this is the post-mortem.

381 eon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:55:09am

re: #374 Nevergiveup

Not if you get mixed up with the narco-terror gangs down there?

I'm wondering how they're reacting to this.

Best guess; hoping the government collapses completely, and getting ready to stake their claims on the cities they want to control. Sort of like Colombia back in the Miami Vice days.

/Just without the pastels.

cheers

eon

382 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:56:17am

re: #381 eon

I'm wondering how they're reacting to this.

Best guess; hoping the government collapses completely, and getting ready to stake their claims on the cities they want to control. Sort of like Colombia back in the Miami Vice days.

/Just without the pastels.

cheers

eon

They are avoiding tacos al pastor and hoping they don't get sick and die, IMO.

383 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:56:39am

Mornin' all. Another exciting Tuesday is upon us!

384 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:57:04am

re: #383 pingjockey

Ping! want some bacon?

385 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:58:22am

re: #384 rightside
Damn straight. Payback time for the damn flu! Our house hold did its part Sunday. Boneless country pork ribs, potato salad, yum!

386 freetoken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:58:40am

Here are some webcams from the border (live feeds):

[Link: www.telnor.com...]

See all those tail lights?

387 eon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 5:59:00am

re: #382 OldLineTexan

They are avoiding tacos al pastor and hoping they don't get sick and die, IMO.

Probably already "sequestering" as much of the country's Tamiflu supply as they can lay their grubby little protuberances on, too.

/Drug runners tend to be predictable in such circumstances.

cheers

eon

388 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:00:32am

re: #386 freetoken
That's San Diego! Lotsa folks coming north to do the work Americans won't do!////

389 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:01:37am

FNC "why are some folks dying from this flu and why some are not?" Idjits.

390 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:01:38am

re: #376 rightside

both! do you prefer yours with, or without epinephrine?

on the rocks

391 eon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:02:06am

Have to run.

Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

392 pbird  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:02:58am

OT alert. Can any of you monster geeks tell me how to stuff a virtual XP machine inside a Ubuntu system? I accidentally installed Ubuntu from a live disc I was messing with and it killed my Vista and I need to download all my stuff off Carbonite.

393 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:03:32am

re: #392 pbird
Use lotsa lubrication!

394 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:03:43am

re: #391 eon

Later, man.

395 pbird  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:04:10am

re: #393 pingjockey

Use lotsa lubrication!

Uh huh. Thanks.

396 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:04:15am

re: #392 pbird

OT alert. Can any of you monster geeks tell me how to stuff a virtual XP machine inside a Ubuntu system? I accidentally installed Ubuntu from a live disc I was messing with and it killed my Vista and I need to download all my stuff off Carbonite.

Can ya repeat that in English?

397 pbird  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:04:51am

re: #396 Nevergiveup

Can ya repeat that in English?

I barely know what I'm talking about.

398 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:04:58am
Smithfield's pigs live by the hundreds or thousands in warehouse-like barns, in rows of wall-to-wall pens. Sows are artificially inseminated and fed and delivered of their piglets in cages so small they cannot turn around. Forty fully grown 250-pound male hogs often occupy a pen the size of a tiny apartment. They trample each other to death. There is no sunlight, straw, fresh air or earth. The floors are slatted to allow excrement to fall into a catchment pit under the pens, but many things besides excrement can wind up in the pits:

From Smithfield's point of view, the problem with this lifestyle is immunological. Taken together, the immobility, poisonous air and terror of confinement badly damage the pigs' immune systems. They become susceptible to infection, and in such dense quarters microbes or parasites or fungi, once established in one pig, will rush spritelike through the whole population. Accordingly, factory pigs are infused with a huge range of antibiotics and vaccines, and are doused with insecticides. Without these compounds -- oxytetracycline, draxxin, ceftiofur, tiamulin -- diseases would likely kill them.

Millions of factory-farm hogs -- one study puts it at ten percent -- die before they make it to the killing floor. Some are taken to rendering plants, where they are propelled through meat grinders and then fed cannibalistically back to other living hogs.

excerpts from the article about Smithfield.

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

Smithfield and similar hog operations have been disastrous to farming communities for years. It was only a matter of time before they caused a national/international health crisis.

It's perhaps lucky that their actions have "only" caused a swine flu pandemic.

399 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:05:20am

re: #395 pbird
Sorry, it's early. We have some really good computer folks here. I'm sure they can help.

400 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:05:43am

Roses are red, violets are blue
One peaked Porky,
And we've all got the flu.

401 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:05:51am

re: #392 pbird

Beyond my skillz. How much data do you have to get from carbonite? Can someone with an XP box dowload it, and burn it to DVD(s)?

402 pbird  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:06:16am

re: #399 pingjockey

Its OK. I'm the dummy.

403 pbird  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:07:57am

re: #401 rightside

Beyond my skillz. How much data do you have to get from carbonite? Can someone with an XP box dowload it, and burn it to DVD(s)?

That sounds reasonable but the kids won't let me at their computers. Can't figger out why they don't trust me?....

404 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:09:23am

re: #403 pbird

Bad juju there. Create a company like carbonite that caters to the linux flavors du jour, and you'll rake it in. (For that idea, I will accept 10% gross)

405 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:09:39am

re: #403 pbird

That sounds reasonable but the kids won't let me at their computers. Can't figger out why they don't trust me?....

Are you bigger than them?

406 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:15:58am

Anti-Israel event fraudulently planned, then canceled, at NYU
New York University reports student received permission to host event on climate change, then hung flyers for conference on 'Hidden History of Zionism: The Road to Gaza's Killing Fields'

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Good for them. Now let's see if Columbia stands up and denies tenure to that Racist Palestinian professor?

[Link: www.campus-watch.org...]

407 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:16:04am

Good morning y'all - from a warm (58 degrees going up to 85 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

408 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:17:12am

Janice Schakowsky is an opportunistic, fucking Commie bastard who wants to see this nation abased and bombed again.

409 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:18:35am

Morning all!

Good to see the swine flu being the lead today here in NYC, along with the idiotic photo op of AF One.

My gf works for Ernst and Young in Times Square and knew that there was a potential 'swine flu' person over the weekend. The fact they they have someone with it is not a huge deal but last week was 'Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day'...

410 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:19:24am

re: #406 Nevergiveup

The IDF causes climate change through the razing of Palestinian homes and their occupants, didn't you do your reading?

///////////////////////////////

411 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:19:59am
Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) Strain ST398 Is Present in Midwestern U.S. Swine and Swine Workers

Results
In this pilot study, overall MRSA prevalence in swine was 49% (147/299) and 45% (9/20) in workers. The prevalence of MRSA carriage among production system A's swine varied by age, ranging from 36% (11/30) in adult swine to 100% (60/60) of animals aged 9 and 12 weeks. The prevalence among production system A's workers was 64% (9/14). MRSA was not isolated from production system B's swine or workers. Isolates examined were not typeable by PFGE when SmaI was used, but digestion with EagI revealed that the isolates were clonal and were not related to common human types in Iowa (USA100, USA300, and USA400). MLST documented that the isolates were ST398.

Conclusions
These results show that colonization of swine by MRSA was very common on one swine production system in the midwestern U.S., suggesting that agricultural animals could become an important reservoir for this bacterium. MRSA strain ST398 was the only strain documented on this farm. Further 1studies are examining carriage rates on additional farms.

[Link: www.plosone.org...]

412 Thom  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:20:09am
Every meal would be a pizza.

Mmmm ... pizza ...

413 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:20:17am

re: #408 MandyManners

Ja-who?

/srsly tho.

414 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:20:20am

re: #409 tfc3rid

The fact they they have someone with it is not a huge deal but last week was 'Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day'...

Geez, talk about bad timing. Good luck to your gf and all, I'm sure they'll be fine.

415 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:20:21am

re: #304 tokyobk

I wish everyone who thinks all vegetarians are PETA nuts would try giving up meat for a year and see how they feel (not just physically but also about the idea of tearing flesh off of bone and swallowing it, of ten still bloody).

Yuck.

No more yucky than eating your food while it is still alive, as vegetarians so often do when they consume raw fruits and vegetables. Not to mention putting them in the oven, blender or microwave while still living.

416 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:20:53am

re: #408 MandyManners

Janice Schakowsky is an opportunistic, fucking Commie bastard who wants to see this nation abased and bombed again.

I had to look that one up? She your rep?

417 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:23:00am

re: #414 Lincolntf

The fact they they have someone with it is not a huge deal but last week was 'Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day'...

Geez, talk about bad timing. Good luck to your gf and all, I'm sure they'll be fine.

Yeah, she's not too overly concerned... But she's one who cleans everything down with bleach to begin with so...

418 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:23:25am

Morning all....

Though I would drop by and say hi. (-:

So I see the Prez knew nothing about AF1 around NY city... Hmmmm some how I'm not buying it. Like giving you kids the keys to the car and not knowing they will HOT ROD it.....

Please.

419 pbird  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:24:28am

re: #405 Nevergiveup

No. Tribe of huge childer.

420 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:24:47am

re: #418 Dustoff-507

Morning all....

Though I would drop by and say hi. (-:

So I see the Prez knew nothing about AF1 around NY city... Hmmmm some how I'm not buying it. Like giving you kids the keys to the car and not knowing they will HOT ROD it.....

Please.

I believe him. I doubt he knows what kind of Plane AF One is?

421 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:25:00am

re: #413 laZardo

Ja-who?

/srsly tho.

re: #416 Nevergiveup

I had to look that one up? She your rep?

Janice Schakowsky.

She was just on Fox trying to explain why she's calling for Congressional hearings on the interrogation of terrorists. The Fox woman ate her lunch.

422 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:25:10am

re: #418 Dustoff-507
Hey Dustoff! How are you doing my friend?

423 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:25:50am

re: #420 Nevergiveup


LOL.........

424 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:26:04am

Bah. The world can kiss my ass. I've had enough of it for one day.

Take care, Lizards!

425 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:26:17am

re: #422 realwest


I'm doing great buddy... You get the pictures I sent you?

426 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:27:06am

re: #425 Dustoff-507
Yes I did - I gather you didn't get my reply e-mail?

427 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:27:27am

re: #426 realwest

OOOOOOOOOO I did, and agree

428 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:28:05am

re: #268 3 wood

The UAW and the government is going to own Chrysler:
UAW Said to Get 55% Chrysler Ownership, Board Seats

This is Karl Marx's dream, the workers and the government will own the means of production. And the government will use out taxes to make sure that the unions keep getting their pay and benefits.

The unions are the mechanism the democrats will use to turn the US into Marxist America. All they need to do is roll out their deceptive language - and then hide behind teachers, police and firefighters... (who have nothing to do with car companies and other industries the democrats want to take over)

Fascism, in part, is the government take over of private industry.

429 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:28:13am

re: #407 realwest

Same as I ever was.

Same as I ever was.

Same as I ever was.

Youtube Video
430 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:28:30am

re: #427 Dustoff-507
SOOOooo you forgot I replied LAST NIGHT?!?! I tell ya, when you get older the memory is the first thing to go to hell in a handbasket! LOL!

431 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:29:01am

re: #428 FrogMarch

The unions are the mechanism the democrats will use to turn the US into Marxist America. All they need to do is roll out their deceptive language - and then hide behind teachers, police and firefighters... (who have nothing to do with car companies and other industries the democrats want to take over)

Fascism, in part, is the government take over of private industry.

When do we declare the Republic over? Why does it feel like Star Wars?

432 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:29:55am

re: #430 realwest

No I didn't get your mail last night? I was on it for a good hour.

433 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:30:06am

re: #429 laZardo
Good morning laZardo - Talking Heads? Were they a rock group once upon a time?!
/
How are you doing today?

434 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:30:24am

re: #431 tfc3rid

I call dibs on Boba Fett.

/iirc he survived that monsterpit of death. q:

435 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:31:02am

re: #433 realwest

Repeat my #429, and you'll get it. q;

436 zulubaby  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:31:18am
And—since women are a majority of the population—we’d all be married to Mel Gibson.

Well, sugar tits notwithstanding, I'm not at all sure Mel would want this Jew for a wife!

437 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:32:05am

Any NYC area Lizards care to see Mets-Marlins tonight at Citi Field? My friend who was going to use my tix cannot go...

438 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:32:18am

re: #432 Dustoff-507
Huh? You said in your #427 - in reply to my #426,
"OOOOOOOOOO I did, and agree" so did you get my e-mail or not?!
LOL!

439 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:32:19am

Zulubaby!

(hug)

440 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:33:21am

Swine Flue Death rate at 7%

Mexico, which has had about 70 swine flu deaths out of 1000 cases, a fatality rate of 7% which is far higher than the 2.5% fatality rate from the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918-19, although the latter was many orders of magnitude more widespread, killing 40 million people world-wide.

441 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:34:02am

re: #438 realwest

No not last night... I thought you ment the one from the other day.

So did you get the dog pics?

442 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:34:18am

re: #431 tfc3rid

When do we declare the Republic over? Why does it feel like Star Wars?

It's not over. But it is the beginning of the end of our prosperity. The idiots at the helm (who should all be thrown out, btw) will take over as much private industry as possible, and then they will kill the goose. Everything the government touches will turn into an inept waste of money... and eventually we will be fleeced again to take up the slack.

443 Gella  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:35:10am

good morning Lizards

444 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:36:29am

re: #421 MandyManners

Janice Schakowsky.

She was just on Fox trying to explain why she's calling for Congressional hearings on the interrogation of terrorists. The Fox woman ate her lunch.

TORTURE!

musn't allow the plebes to notice how many important positions are still sitting empty wrt national security and public health right now....

445 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:37:05am

Sen. Reid Says Obama Told Him, 'I Have a Gift'
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid writes in a memoir that President Obama told him he "has a gift" when it comes to public speaking, a comment that could be interpreted as bragging.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Gift my ass.

446 Dustoff-507  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:37:12am

Dang.... sorry folks..
Time to go..

C-ya

447 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:37:27am

re: #435 laZardo
Do I have to?!

448 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:38:11am

re: #436 zulubaby
HEY ZULUBABY! How are you doing? You've been missed around here!

449 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:39:03am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

Sen. Reid Says Obama Told Him, 'I Have a Gift'
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid writes in a memoir that President Obama told him he "has a gift" when it comes to public speaking, a comment that could be interpreted as bragging.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Gift my ass.

So did Stalin... Obama can kiss my ass.Happy Day though... New York State came through! I got my tax refund!

450 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:39:15am

re: #441 Dustoff-507
OY! Yes those were the pics I reply e-mailed to you about last night!

451 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:39:39am

everyone really should read eon's comment above. it was really sharp.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

What I'm seeing is a classic example of "analysis paralysis" at the national level in both countries- more or less thinking "if we 'study' the problem long enough, it will go away, and we won't have to actually commit ourselves to any course of action that might need to be explained later."

In Mexico's case, it's because their government ministry is full of time-servers who don't care whether they do the job or not- like I said, they get paid either way.

Up here, the problem seems to be a combination of;

1. An administrator (Napolitano) who, in keeping with both the Peter Principle and Parkinson's Law, has been promoted at least two levels beyond her level of incompetence, and has never been noted for being willing to do anything that might require her to put her career on the line to start with;

2. A group of higher authorities who are not listening to their own experts- mainly because they apparently have trouble with those experts being types they "disapprove" of on purely "philosophical" grounds (I mean, USAMRIID is Army, CDC is full of people who do experiments on poor defenseless bunnies, so both are Inherently Evil And Not To Be Trusted, in their universe): and

3. A Chief Executive (The One) who honestly does not understand the problem, and who is only getting advice from (1) and (2). And the actual experts can't get through this cordon sanitaire' of unicorn-handlers and puppy-sitters to actually explain The Facts of Life Re Contagious Diseases to Him.

but read it all...

see you all later

452 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:39:55am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

Sen. Reid Says Obama Told Him, 'I Have a Gift'
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid writes in a memoir that President Obama told him he "has a gift" when it comes to public speaking, a comment that could be interpreted as bragging.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Gift my ass.

His Obamaness Has 'A Gift'

453 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:40:21am

here's an interesting piece from today's NY Post on the arab regimes and their concern with iran.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

will our new President stop campaigning and pandering to thugs long enough to throw his weight behind those who might be helpful in stopping iran? or will he undermine those efforts in his desire to be loved by those who will NEVER love him (or us)?

454 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:41:01am

re: #447 realwest

Oh, fine. q; I'm feeling quite the same as I ever was here.

455 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:41:16am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

The biggest myth of the Obama "era" is that he is a great (or even good) public speaker. For crying out loud, do any of these dopes actually listen to him?
I don't think someone has to be a great speaker to be a good President anyway, but what is with this mass delusion?

456 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:41:53am

re: #421 MandyManners

Janice Schakowsky.

She was just on Fox trying to explain why she's calling for Congressional hearings on the interrogation of terrorists. The Fox woman ate her lunch.

Another democrat distracting us with something most American's do not care about: the intense interrogation of 3 hard-core jihadists who helped plan 9/11. E-mail her and thank her for crippling the CIA and helping to make America less safe.

457 yochanan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:41:54am

re: #444 funky chicken

she is my congresscrook, he hubby was convicted of bank fraud and tax evasion yet she still got 70% of the vote

that is chicagostan for you.

458 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:42:45am

re: #455 Lincolntf

The teleprompter thing yesterday was insanely funny and yet very sad at the same time...

459 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:44:01am

re: #457 yochanan

she is my congresscrook, he hubby was convicted of bank fraud and tax evasion yet she still got 70% of the vote

that is chicagostan for you.

Typical. Democrats are above the law, above reproach, and are allowed any and all closet skeletons.

460 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:45:36am

re: #458 tfc3rid

The teleprompter thing yesterday was insanely funny and yet very sad at the same time...

He should have had backup notes in front of him.

461 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:47:14am

re: #458 tfc3rid Hey there my friend - somehow I don't think Obama found a lot of humor in it - there used to be a time when a POTUS would give a speech off of a written text and use the teleprompter only in cases of either emergency or a particularly strong passage(s) that he wanted to get word for word right, but wanted to look at the "people" in the eye when he said it.
Apparently Obama has never heard of this and thinks the teleprompter is all he needs.
hmmmmmmm - trying to figure out how to hack the teleprompter....................!

462 vxbush  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:48:00am

Morning, everyone. Before I head off to my first meeting of the day, I wanted to share this link: As usual, Junk Food Science hits it out of the park.

Flu Fears

Every few years, we are surrounded by dire warnings of an impending pandemic — such as the SARS, avian flu, and 1976 swine flu scares — pandemics that never materialized. As JFS covered during the avian flu scare (when we were being told that 81 million of us could die), these scary pandemic projections are based on computer models that assume the worse case scenarios: a world without medical care or medications, without veterinary medicine, and such social demise and unsanitary living conditions that people will die at the same rates they did a century ago during the Spanish flu pandemic. Most of all, they ignore the science.
463 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #453 _RememberTonyC

Shared Israel-resentment aside, Iran starting shit would be really bad for Mideast business. The ministates (Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait) and UAE are trying to push their cities as relatively-secular (emphasis on relatively, but you get the idea) hubs of global commerce, as well as the usual oil kingdoms.

It's not going to look good on their governments if a regional war (bigger than Iraq) scares off all their investors.

464 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:49:02am

Good foggy morning everyone.

Here's a nice story of local flavor from Dallas, about a nice Jewish boy who designed a sign for one of his great uncle's liquor stores, a sign that became a landmark.

Famed '50s sign at Sigel's liquor store in Dallas almost wasn't, artist recalls

465 zulubaby  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:49:29am

re: #439 Ward Cleaver

Hi, how goes it? :-)

466 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:49:50am

re: #456 FrogMarch

Another democrat distracting us with something most American's do not care about: the intense interrogation of 3 hard-core jihadists who helped plan 9/11. E-mail her and thank her for crippling the CIA and helping to make America less safe.

What would actually be useful - instead of wasting more time on another endless round of hearings, investigations and partisan BS - would be for Congress to provide a clear definition of what constitutes torture that everyone can follow in the future to ensure that everyone is playing by the rules. The current problem is that there are no such rules, and never-ending bickering is the only possible result.

So end the problem, and draw up some real rules. Live by them. And also, live by the results of putting those rules in place.

467 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:49:51am

re: #459 FrogMarch

Typical. Democrats are above the law, above reproach, and are allowed any and all closet skeletons.


Well except for Blago!

468 zulubaby  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:50:07am

re: #448 realwest

HEY ZULUBABY! How are you doing? You've been missed around here!

Hiya realwest, are you well? I miss you guys too, but don't have much time for the 'net these days.

469 irish rose  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:50:59am

Good morning, lizards.
Not a lot of time to post today as I"m stranded in a distant city with a broken down car, and have limited internet use.

I wish that I had known about dustys' PayPal, I would have sent something over there :(.

470 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:51:12am

re: #464 Ward Cleaver

Good morning Ward. What happened yesterday? Did someone help Dustyvet?

472 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:51:47am

re: #467 realwest

Didn't he end up sleeping with the roadkill?

/half-sarc, I wonder if he was really in that deep with Obama...

473 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:52:24am

re: #464 Ward Cleaver

Good foggy morning everyone.

Here's a nice story of local flavor from Dallas, about a nice Jewish boy who designed a sign for one of his great uncle's liquor stores, a sign that became a landmark.

Famed '50s sign at Sigel's liquor store in Dallas almost wasn't, artist recalls

Nice story.

474 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:53:09am

re: #469 irish rose

don't fool us, you are making a secret hitlist.

LOLZ!

475 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:53:24am

re: #462 vxbush

Morning, everyone. Before I head off to my first meeting of the day, I wanted to share this link: As usual, Junk Food Science hits it out of the park.

Flu Fears

Completely agree with this assessment. Current estimates are that the flu is all over Mexico; cases probably run well into the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, already. The death rate shrinks into insignificance as a result. Even the death rate is extremely questionable; few, if any, of these cases have a definitive confirmation as having been caused by the flu. Although discretion may be the better part of valor in such cases, it also leads to wildly inflated mortality rates.

Real numbers will emerge over the next week or two, and there is every indication that the threat of this latest strain will actually be minute.

476 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:53:28am

re: #468 zulubaby I'm doing ok - sorry you don't have much time for the 'net, though!
How are YOU doing?

477 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:53:41am

Good Morning, {all y'all}
Since lizards are so fond of puns, here's a few I received in an email:

1. Two antennas met on a roof, fell in love and got married. The ceremony wasn't much, but the reception was excellent.

2. A jumper cable walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I'll serve you, but don't start anything."

3. Two peanuts walk into a bar, and one was a salted.

4. A dyslexic man walks into a bra.

5. A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under his arm and says: "A beer please, and one for the road."


Yuk, yuk, yuk!
;-)

478 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:53:44am

re: #465 zulubaby

Hi, how goes it? :-)

We're doing well, just waiting for the school year to end (five more weeks).

479 irish rose  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:53:57am

re: #474 rightside

don't fool us, you are making a secret hitlist.

LOLZ!

Stupid, paranoid idiots.

480 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:54:43am

re: #473 Nevergiveup

Nice story.

I just hope the sign winds up somewhere (like in a museum), rather than being scrapped.

481 jacksontn  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:55:06am

re: #471 Ojoe

L.A. is socked in. But if you drove up the old Mt. Wilson toll road, you'd get above the clouds, and this is what you'd see: Towercam, San Gabriel Mountains of California. Pacific time zone.

Good morning all.

Ojoe .. that is beautiful ... it looks like you could walk across those clouds ...

482 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:55:16am

re: #470 KenJen
See his #218 above.

483 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:55:56am

Another distraction for Obama:

Russia to Test Fire at Least 5 New Ballistic Missiles

/comrade, can't i just eat my waffle?

484 zulubaby  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:56:02am

re: #476 realwest

I'm doing ok - sorry you don't have much time for the 'net, though!
How are YOU doing?

Fab, thanks :-)

Glad to hear you're okay!

485 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:56:17am

re: #477 redstateredneck
Good morning {red} how are you doing?

486 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:56:21am

re: #475 SixDegrees

I'll start panicking when Madagascar closes its only seaport.

/popular web flash game inside joke

487 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:56:38am

re: #471 Ojoe

L.A. is socked in. But if you drove up the old Mt. Wilson toll road, you'd get above the clouds, and this is what you'd see: Towercam, San Gabriel Mountains of California. Pacific time zone.

Good morning all.

Morning! We have fog here as well this morning (in Dallas).

488 vxbush  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:56:48am

re: #475 SixDegrees

Completely agree with this assessment. Current estimates are that the flu is all over Mexico; cases probably run well into the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, already. The death rate shrinks into insignificance as a result. Even the death rate is extremely questionable; few, if any, of these cases have a definitive confirmation as having been caused by the flu. Although discretion may be the better part of valor in such cases, it also leads to wildly inflated mortality rates.

Real numbers will emerge over the next week or two, and there is every indication that the threat of this latest strain will actually be minute.

Here's the most important part of her story that no one is being told:

A point repeatedly emphasized to the media yesterday by Dr. Anne Schuchat, Director for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, was that they couldn’t credibly say the cases being identified in the laboratory are indicative of a new situation. Cases identified with increased surveillance is not the same thing as actual increased incidents.

As she said, we might never have even known about this a few years ago because health departments weren’t testing for unusual strains of influenza viruses. They only recently stepped up laboratory capabilities and in 2007 launched a new reporting system that now makes it mandatory for state health departments to report the detection of untypable influenza strains during their routine influenza season surveillance. “Ten years ago we were not doing that, so we may be seeing something and actively investigating something that has happened many times before,” said Dr. Schuchat. So, we really cannot say that this is anything new.

All of the cases have been detected through routine surveillance for seasonal flu after state labs found strains they couldn’t type and sent the samples to them. “We are doing more testing now and looking more aggressively for unusual influenza strains,” she said. “So we haven’t seen this strain before, but we haven’t been looking as intensively as we are these days.” Now, they’re in an active investigation mode, she explained. So, each case that tests positive for swine influenza A (H1N1) “prompts a contact tracing investigation that is much more aggressive than we would do with a routine season influenza patient.”

Emphasis mine. Changes in protocol have resulted in increased numbers of finds. That doesn't mean we don't have a flu bug running around, but it also means that if such testing had not been in place, we probably never would have known about this. So the testing is good; we just need to take a deep breath and not freak out.

489 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:57:01am

re: #485 realwest

Good morning {red} how are you doing?

Well, I was able to take a little nourishment this morning and get to work, so I must be okay.
/jk

490 irish rose  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:57:29am

I'm also Charles' whore, or at least I was last time I checked over there :).

/I see dumb people.

491 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:57:37am

re: #463 laZardo

Shared Israel-resentment aside, Iran starting shit would be really bad for Mideast business. The ministates (Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait) and UAE are trying to push their cities as relatively-secular (emphasis on relatively, but you get the idea) hubs of global commerce, as well as the usual oil kingdoms.

It's not going to look good on their governments if a regional war (bigger than Iraq) scares off all their investors.

although I am not always a fan of the concept "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," in the case of iran, it may be OK.

492 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:58:07am

re: #487 Ward Cleaver

Morning! We have fog here as well this morning (in Dallas).

Kinda hazy over here, as well. mr. hightechredneck will be SOOOOO disappointed if he doesn't get to have his flying lesson this morning.

493 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:58:07am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The NYC area papers are having a field day with the AF1 flyby fiasco where no one bothered to inform the public of the spectacle until after the event (and the ensuing panic) occurred.

NYC issued email notifications 20 minutes after the event started. They should have notified the public well ahead of the flyby, but the FAA had it on a need to know basis. The WH issued an apology, but I still wonder why the flyby was even necessary for the photo shoot, given that nothing had changed from the last time the photos were taken over the Statue of Liberty.

494 vxbush  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:58:14am

Okay; now I have to go to my meeting. Nobody say anything important while I'm gone, okay?

495 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:58:19am

re: #477 redstateredneck

Good Morning, {all y'all}
Since lizards are so fond of puns, here's a few I received in an email:


Yuk, yuk, yuk!
;-)

A grasshopper walks into a bar. The bartender says, "I have a drink named after you."

The grasshopper replies, "Henry?"

496 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:58:41am

re: #483 Ward Cleaver
But, but.........that can't be! Obama said he was gonna disable or whatever the US nuke arsenal so we could get going with the "nuclear weapons free" world!

497 bikergrl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:58:51am

wow lt. col allen west......he gets it!

498 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:59:18am

re: #494 vxbush

Okay; now I have to go to my meeting. Nobody say anything important while I'm gone, okay?

You can count on me!

499 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:00:14am

re: #494 vxbush

Okay; now I have to go to my meeting. Nobody say anything important while I'm gone, okay?

You can count on me!
:D

500 Silvergirl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:00:48am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

Sen. Reid Says Obama Told Him, 'I Have a Gift'
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid writes in a memoir that President Obama told him he "has a gift" when it comes to public speaking, a comment that could be interpreted as bragging.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Gift my ass.

This takes me back to a year old Vanity Fair article (on page seven of a seven page article) where he describes his speech as pretty good. It references the 2004 Dem speech.

Obama’s good friend Martin Nesbitt, a successful black businessman in Chicago, spent the day of the speech with him, traveling from appearance to appearance. “We were walking down the street in Boston, and this crowd was growing behind us, kind of like Tiger Woods at the Masters. And I turned to Barack and I said, ‘This is incredible. You’re like a rock star.’ And he looked at me and said, ‘If you think it’s bad today, wait till tomorrow.’ And I said, ‘What do you mean?,’ and he said, ‘My speech is pretty good.’ ” It was an extraordinary display of self-confidence, and self-knowledge. “All of the rest of us are groping as to how to handle this, because we couldn’t ever imagine we’d be in this place we’re in,” Obama’s brother-in-law Craig Robinson told me. “I think the way my sister is processing it is day by day. I think the way that Barack is processing it is as just another step in his strategic plan.”

501 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:01:04am

re: #482 realwest

See his #218 above.

That's good news. There is an old country saying "Them's good people." It's used a lot here in Kentucky. You, Ward and all Lizards who helped are good people.

502 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:01:08am

When You Have Shit For Brains

The 747 barreling towards Manhattan is a classic cases of several hundred people in Washington making a decision, and like everything else government ever does, screwing it up on a massive scale.

A single press release would have sufficed. If the 747 had been led by a fighter jet, everyone would have known it was government approved and safe. But when the people who think Bush planned 911, lied about Iraq and that congressional dems were never briefed on enhanced interrogation are in charge, miracles can happen.

Now Debka file is never to be believed until confirmed by another source, but they very often do deliver serious information before anyone else- today they are noting the US has asked a country to send supplied over land to Afghanistan. In addition, to sweeten the deal, they offered them part of a new pipeline deal. The country in question is IRAN!

Go ahead, kill several thousand Americans injure thousands more, host al Qaeda and threaten US interests world wide with your terror operatives and our new administration will place their lips on your buttcheeks! Aid insurgencies in Gaza, the Sinai, Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan, our new morons will approach you to help supply our troops.

And why would the US be asking for overland access from Iran? Because currently we support our troops in Afghanistan from Pakistan. Pakistan's government has the Taliban 60 miles from the capital. Thanks to Bush's mismanagement of the situation, the Talibs exploitation of a weak and corrupt government, we are sitting on the mother of all geopolitical implosions.

It has never occurred to our Obamanaut geniuses that Iran is not our friend and cannot be trusted to convoy support to our troops. Would you trust the same regime sending arms and terrorists to terrorists they rain kill our troops in Iraq and Pakistan? Obama would. We elected him because he is so smart. He is so smart he can see this policy is suicidal reliance on a regime committed to our destruction.

I said in October that Obama's election was going to lead to war and a lot of people getting killed. This is nothing short of "hey kids, have some loaded revolvers with hair triggers, some gasoline, my blasting cap collection and that dynamite from Uncle Dave up north: have fun, I will be back in an hour."

When the Rwandan Genocide began, I called the White House demanding then President Clinton take action. Clinton's pathetic apology that he did not know, several years too late, is what we can expect some years from now, when feckless and reckless, the watchwords of Obama foreign policy grow into full blown trees strewn with the corpses of those who did not have to die if the US were a serious mature country with leaders worthy of the power they wield in our names.

I almost pity the angel of death; he will soon be so busy he won't know what to do with all the dead. Business is going to be booming!

504 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:01:36am

re: #493 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk - according to the "news" yesterday, the AF notified the NYPD of the impending fly by and the NYPD forgot to tell the Mayor!

505 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:01:43am

re: #496 realwest

But, but.........that can't be! Obama said he was gonna disable or whatever the US nuke arsenal so we could get going with the "nuclear weapons free" world!

Brilliant!

506 Spartacus50  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:02:17am

Charles:

How come nothing has been posted yet on the Air Force One Manhattan flyby? Its 24 hours later and I'm still furious over how scant attention is being paid to a 9/11-like panic caused by our President.

507 nyc redneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:02:53am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

Sen. Reid Says Obama Told Him, 'I Have a Gift'
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid writes in a memoir that President Obama told him he "has a gift" when it comes to public speaking, a comment that could be interpreted as bragging.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Gift my ass.

the 'prompter' is his boss.
i think we will see more examples of the prompter refusing to do his bidding as time goes on. glitches, timing, crazy words that he will read w/ the confidence of a fool. and not even know that he is ie, 'thanking himself', effusively.
even the machines will turn on him.
he is inviting it w/ his arrogance.
even a telepromter likes a 'practical joke.'
ha ha

508 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:03:18am

re: #467 realwest

Well except for Blago!

Blago just got sloppy.

509 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:03:18am

FNC obambis new budget=1 billion bucks an hour! We have to borrow 2 trillion dollars! Progressive! Change! We're so fucked.

510 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:03:26am

re: #492 redstateredneck

Kinda hazy over here, as well. mr. hightechredneck will be SOOOOO disappointed if he doesn't get to have his flying lesson this morning.

I don't understand that - I'm sure the fog will have lifted by the time he gets to - oh, 10,000 feet or so. And as for landing, well the fog will probably clear off in time for him to see what's happening and if it doesn't he'll land anyway just as soon as the fuel runs out!

511 SteveC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:03:43am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

Sen. Reid Says Obama Told Him, 'I Have a Gift'
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid writes in a memoir that President Obama told him he "has a gift" when it comes to public speaking, a comment that could be interpreted as bragging.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Gift my ass.

Maybe the teleprompter is made by the A.J. Gift and Sons, Inc.

/Probably not

512 Ojoe  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:03:51am

re: #481 jacksontn

You could walk across the clouds, more or less, but you would need
A blimp.

BBL

513 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:04:08am
514 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:04:09am

White House Photo OPs.

515 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:05:21am

re: #488 vxbush

Emphasis mine. Changes in protocol have resulted in increased numbers of finds. That doesn't mean we don't have a flu bug running around, but it also means that if such testing had not been in place, we probably never would have known about this. So the testing is good; we just need to take a deep breath and not freak out.

Exactly. At this point, only around 20 of the cases in Mexico have been positively confirmed at flu. Out of all of them - not just the deaths.

I vividly recall the bird flu panic of a few years ago, that turned into a fiasco. And let's not forget the evil West Nile Virus that was supposed to kill millions upon millions of us - despite the emphatically large population along the Western Nile and elsewhere the disease was already endemic.

516 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:05:38am

re: #493 lawhawk

given that nothing had changed from the last time the photos were taken over the Statue of Liberty

Wrong!

The last time, Air Force One (or the Artist Formerly Known as Air Force One, or whatever we call it when POTUS isn't aboard) wasn't bathed in the aethereal light of Hopey Changeyness.

Good morning.

517 irish rose  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:05:51am

Gotta run, have a good day everyone :).

518 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:05:53am

re: #498 wrenchwench

You can count on me!

GMTA?

519 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:06:19am

re: #475 SixDegrees

Completely agree with this assessment. Current estimates are that the flu is all over Mexico; cases probably run well into the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, already. The death rate shrinks into insignificance as a result. Even the death rate is extremely questionable; few, if any, of these cases have a definitive confirmation as having been caused by the flu. Although discretion may be the better part of valor in such cases, it also leads to wildly inflated mortality rates.

Real numbers will emerge over the next week or two, and there is every indication that the threat of this latest strain will actually be minute.

But the government, media, and international health organizations are making sure to not waste a good crisis.
Even if this is mild, they'll talk about how bad it could have been and how they need more money for the next one.

520 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:07:00am

re: #509 pingjockey

FNC obambis new budget=1 billion bucks an hour! We have to borrow 2 trillion dollars! Progressive! Change! We're so fucked.

It would be a little easier to swallow if private sector jobs weren't vanishing by the minute. Say goodbye to prosperity in America... for a long long time.

And if the GOP doesn't get its act together, even longer.

521 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:07:37am

re: #513 buzzsawmonkey

However, if you listen to Obama speak, you realize that he barks out subclauses of a teleprompter length, pauses until the next phrase replaces it on the cue machine, then barks that out, pauses--and repeats, and repeats.

The regular pauses are what make him so soporific to me.

One is tempted to say "mega-phony," since the words and thoughts he renders clearly are not his;

That perks me back up, thanks!

522 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:07:48am

re: #519 Kosh's Shadow

But the government, media, and international health organizations are making sure to not waste a good crisis.
Even if this is mild, they'll talk about how bad it could have been and how they need more money for the next one.

Agree that there is definite crisis milking taking place.

523 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:08:14am

Pakistan Sends Jets to Battle Taliban

Pakistani fighter jets pounded Taliban positions near the Swat Valley Tuesday and ground troops moved in to assault the militants in an expansion of a government offensive.

Pakistan faces intense pressure from Washington to abandon a peace deal with the Taliban in Swat, and Tuesday's fighting in the neighboring Buner district seemed likely to further undermine the already-shaky accord.

Yeah, I'd say the "peace accord" is definitely looking "shaky".

At least the Pakistani military is finally looking semi-serious about doing something about the Taliban menace 60 miles from the capital.

524 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:08:19am

It ain't easy being green, especially when your Prius is possessed:

The Flip Side of the Perfect Prius

525 SteveC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:08:19am

re: #516 Occasional Reader

Wrong!

The last time, Air Force One (or the Artist Formerly Known as Air Force One, or whatever we call it when POTUS isn't aboard) wasn't bathed in the aethereal light of Hopey Changeyness.

Good morning.

Don't you have to have Unicorn One aboard Air Force One to activate the light show?

526 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:08:25am

re: #518 redstateredneck

GMTA?

...and so do ours!

527 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:09:46am

re: #504 realwest

Good morning lawhawk - according to the "news" yesterday, the AF notified the NYPD of the impending fly by and the NYPD forgot to tell the Mayor!

The FAA was told not to tell the localities of the flyby - and only on need to know. Someone in the Mayor's office was informed, but it never got forwarded to the Mayor. It's a frakfest of failures, but wholly within the realm of possibility for government.

If they can't do this simple task of notifying the public of a publicity stunt, how can we expect them to do anything else well - like say .... health care?

528 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:09:56am

Morning,

What is this Senate "reconciliation" tactic that lets democrats push their "reform" of health care with ONLY 51 votes? (Simple majority)

Ramming Obama's plan through Senate, House & acted on without real debate, bipartisanship, or input from ANY Republicans?

"We WON" on Steroids. Strong Man Fast Tracking his goal of nationalization of your choices, without objection allowed!

Open wide and say Ahhhhh.

529 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:10:11am

re: #510 realwest

I don't understand that - I'm sure the fog will have lifted by the time he gets to - oh, 10,000 feet or so. And as for landing, well the fog will probably clear off in time for him to see what's happening and if it doesn't he'll land anyway just as soon as the fuel runs out!


I gotta go make a call and make sure the life insurance is paid up.

530 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:10:20am

re: #513 buzzsawmonkey
"He is, in other words, not an orator, but a megaphone."
Brilliant!

531 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:11:19am

Good morning all...has the sky fallen yet? Are pigs flying?

532 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:11:26am

re: #523 Occasional Reader

Seems the country is quite bitterly divided over dealing with them. On one hand you have the familiar corruption and rural "devotees", on the other hand you have the urbanites still quite angry over Bhutto's assassination (and the Taliban spoiling their cricket matches) as well as the refugees from that area...many of whom are women.

533 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:11:59am

re: #502 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

When You Have Shit For Brains

I almost pity the angel of death; he will soon be so busy he won't know what to do with all the dead. Business is going to be booming!


It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

534 SteveC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:12:02am

re: #522 SixDegrees

Agree that there is definite crisis milking taking place.

I was interviewed by ABC New.com yesterday about NOT panicking over the Swine Flu.

5 reasons not to panic - I'm mentioned on page two.

535 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:12:32am

re: #531 jorline

Good morning all...has the sky fallen yet? Are pigs flying?

Hi {jorline},

I saw a pig fly by this morning, but no one believes me. :)

536 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:13:11am

re: #513 buzzsawmonkey

Well said. I think algore had that ability too, but he sounded often as if he were speaking to a room full of kindergarteners. 3 or 4 words slowly sounded out, then a pause, then 3 or 4 more, rinse, repeat

537 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:13:12am

re: #513 buzzsawmonkey
[quote shortened]

He is, in other words, not an orator, but a megaphone. One is tempted to say "mega-phony," since the words and thoughts he renders clearly are not his; were they even initially his own, cleaned up and honed by speechwriters, he would show more acquaintance with the subject matter than he does.

But these failures do not impress most of his listeners. They want to believe; they like the sound of his voice, and if they listen at all to what he is actually saying, it is only to the optimistic phrases and the promises, not the substance of what is being said.

Great word. Mega-phony.
The only quibble is that there really isn't much substance in what 0bama says.

538 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:13:45am

re: #523 Occasional Reader

Pakistan Sends Jets to Battle Taliban

Yeah, I'd say the "peace accord" is definitely looking "shaky".

At least the Pakistani military is finally looking semi-serious about doing something about the Taliban menace 60 miles from the capital.

* * * *
I think Pak's Military is waiting until Pakistan's population itself BEGS the military to take over from its lame civilian leaders.

That way, General Kiyani could impose a military junta with the polls showing high approval, unlike Gen. Musharraf who jumped the gun and did his coup too early for popular support.

539 SteveC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:14:39am

re: #537 Kosh's Shadow

[quote shortened]

Great word. Mega-phony.
The only quibble is that there really isn't much substance in what 0bama says.

Obama is like an Angel Food cake... my dad used to say an Angel Food cake was like "eating Sunshine".

/ain't nuttin' there, man!

540 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:15:18am

re: #538 alegrias
I just hope they've got the nukes under very heavy guard and that they have PALs installed.

541 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:15:30am

re: #531 jorline
Good morning and no and no - go back to sleep!
:)

542 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:15:39am

re: #528 alegrias

The 'reconciliation' tactic is simply the nuclear option that the GOP was not 'allowed' to use 2 years ago regarding judicial nominees... This led to the McCain 'Gang of 14'...

543 JacksonTn  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:15:47am

re: #513 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz ... I have always thought that Obama would have been just as happy to be a "video star" ... a rapper or some sort of celebrity ... I just don't believe all the "community organizer" crap because he really wants to "help" the little people ... I feel like it is all about the "celebrity" for him ... if anyone wants to call it ODS ... go ahead ... but it is just my gut feeling about him ... has been since I first heard him speak during the primaries ...

544 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:16:06am

re: #523 Occasional Reader

Pakistan Sends Jets to Battle Taliban

Yeah, I'd say the "peace accord" is definitely looking "shaky".

At least the Pakistani military is finally looking semi-serious about doing something about the Taliban menace 60 miles from the capital.

I can't believe the MSM is using the same terminology somewhere other than Israel. Just like only Israel can break a cease-fire, no matter how many rockets are launched at Israel, they're still calling this a "peace accord" even though the Taliban flat out broke it.
Or maybe the rule is that militant Muslims can never break a cease fire or peace accord, only their victims.

545 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:16:14am

re: #535 midwestgak

Hi {jorline},

I saw a pig fly by this morning, but no one believes me. :)

{gak} How the hell are you?

546 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:16:56am

re: #543 JacksonTn
I don't know what the buzz is? The man IS NOT a speaker of note. His oratory is not that good.

547 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:17:17am

re: #519 Kosh's Shadow

But the government, media, and international health organizations are making sure to not waste a good crisis.
Even if this is mild, they'll talk about how bad it could have been and how they need more money for the next one.

If nothing else, I hope this episode helps to get American voters to understand the danger of unfettered immigration from our decidedly third world nation on our southern border.

548 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:17:31am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right left and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloomhopenchange would be a major concern wonderful if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds rainbows and unicorns.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid right-ade, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

See how easily that is turned around? If you truly believe in hopenchange, I ask you to simply re-file your taxes, and take zero deductions for anything.

I await a copy of your amended return.

549 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:17:58am

re: #528 alegrias

Morning,

What is this Senate "reconciliation" tactic that lets democrats push their "reform" of health care with ONLY 51 votes? (Simple majority)

Ramming Obama's plan through Senate, House & acted on without real debate, bipartisanship, or input from ANY Republicans?

"We WON" on Steroids. Strong Man Fast Tracking his goal of nationalization of your choices, without objection allowed!

Open wide and say Ahhhhh.

The key here will be to break the Democrat voting bloc. Time to reach across the aisle and find some like-minded, fiscally responsible Senators willing to break ranks.

Taking the current situation public in a big way might also help. But there doesn't seem to be any effective Rebublican leadership to craft either action at the moment.

550 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:17:59am

re: #525 SteveC

Don't you have to have Unicorn One aboard Air Force One to activate the light show?

No, once the One has been aboard, his aura infuses the aircraft.
/

551 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:18:22am

re: #545 jorline

{gak} How the hell are you?

I am well. Cable guys are in my home working on the line. Lost expanded channels on one TV, but have all channels on the other one. Weird.

(One of them smells)

552 SteveC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:18:27am

re: #535 midwestgak

Hi {jorline},

I saw a pig fly by this morning, but no one believes me. :)

The Swine Flu is airborne! We're all gonna DIE! (Film at 11)

553 JacksonTn  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:18:48am

re: #546 pingjockey

I don't know what the buzz is? The man IS NOT a speaker of note. His oratory is not that good.

Ping ... if you are referring to the "buzz" in my post ... that is "buzzsawmonkey" ... I always put the posters name I am replying to first ... I do that because I have make bad mistake before replying to the wrong persons posts ... learned my lesson and put the persons name I am replying to first now ...

554 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:19:49am

re: #541 realwest

Good morning and no and no - go back to sleep!
:)

Hey RW...
Ambien más, por favor

How are you today RW?

555 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:20:26am

re: #551 midwestgak

"Lost expanded channels on one TV, but have all channels on the other one. Weird.
(One of them smells)"

Smell-o-vision!

556 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:20:33am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

I don't have much hope for the future, at least not with this administration, when it can't even think far enough ahead of itself to wonder if a 747 followed my military aircraft would be a bit confusing for New Yorkers, if not down right frightening.

I don't have much hope for the future, at least not with this administration, when there MAY be a major pandemic developing here and we don't have a Secretary of Health, a Surgeon General and many other related positions, sitting vacant.

I don't have much hope for the future, at least not with this administration, when we have a president that glad hands EVERY FUCKING dictator he comes across, and then as soon as he turn his back, that dictator is publicly cutting that president down in the press.

I guess the only hope you care about is if the casinos in Atlantic City stay open and you can talk poor slobs out of their old cars for pennies on a dollar.

557 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:20:39am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

Hmmm... there are serious reasons to be concerned about a deal with the devil - Iran - for access to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban there. There's absolutely no reason to trust the Iranians on this or anything given their repeated lies about their missile tech and nuclear programs. They also remain the single biggest threat to the Middle East and everyone knows it, even if they're busy burying their head in the sand or trying to make it out that the single biggest hurdle to peace in the Middle East is Israel's existence.

The disconnect is that there are people who realize that there are threats and want something done about it - and those who think all is well and good and are surprised when the bad things happen and wonder why nothing was done.

Most Americans fall into that latter category. They're the same people who wonder why the government didn't do more to stop 9/11 from happening but who constantly complain that they're having to take their shoes off to go on planes and wonder why they have to put up with more security.

The funny thing is, most people are optimistic about their corner of the world, but there are events that are larger than them that could cause serious harm to them - war in the ME or South Asia. Pakistani instability could lead to a major conflict in South Asia, especially if the Islamists get their hands on the Pakistani nuclear arsenal. Terrorism would get a whole lot more dangerous as the threats ratchet up.

There's reason for optimism, but this Administration isn't exactly showing itself of being capable of lighting the lamp on the mountain.

558 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:09am

re: #553 JacksonTn
No, I meant the buzz the chattering classes have about obambis speechifying! RWR could turn a phrase, FDR could turn a phrase, JFK, Winston Churchill. Obambi cannot speak off the cuff and his delivery sucks.

559 nyc redneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:22am

re: #513 buzzsawmonkey

Obama has a nice, resonant voice--James Earl Jones Lite, if you will. When he is given a script to read, the voice sounds good.

In that, he was/is a marked contrast with both his predecessor and his opponent; neither Bush nor McCain have resonant voices, neither had any particular oratorical skills. Bush had a thin voice, with enough of a Southern accent to count against him in the North and among those people in the South who have been trained by the Northern elites to look upon a Southern accent as an indicator of being a hick. McCain's voice, too, was fairly thin, and a little wheezy. Thus, Obama's round tones, projected confidently, were able to pass muster as "great oratory," particularly since he had co-opted so many neo-Reaganite optimistic phrases to camouflage his few intimations of what his program really was.

However, if you listen to Obama speak, you realize that he barks out subclauses of a teleprompter length, pauses until the next phrase replaces it on the cue machine, then barks that out, pauses--and repeats, and repeats. But he does not appear to actually know what he is saying; on those occasions where the prompter screws up, he rapidly becomes lost and fumbling, to the point where he gives the impression of not having read the speech in advance at all, and having no idea whatever of the speech's subject matter, organization, or the underlying ideas and their progression.

He is, in other words, not an orator, but a megaphone. One is tempted to say "mega-phony," since the words and thoughts he renders clearly are not his; were they even initially his own, cleaned up and honed by speechwriters, he would show more acquaintance with the subject matter than he does.

But these failures do not impress most of his listeners. They want to believe; they like the sound of his voice, and if they listen at all to what he is actually saying, it is only to the optimistic phrases and the promises, not the substance of what is being said.

i don't like his voice at all. the emphasis on all the wrong words in the sentence
is so odd and off putting. he drones. he doesn't speak. and the arrogant manner in which he issues command like single phrases is very annoying.
i don't like the condescending tone he uses. i especially can't stand the attempt
to use different accents based on who he is pandering to. he is bad at accents.
it is embarrassing to watch and listen to this attempt to endear himself to
to whoever he is trying to use.
and now to the content of his speeches?
can't take the leftist commie b.s. at all.
i can't wait for more 'promter sabotage.
i bet o will soon be like a hog on thin ice wondering when he is going to plunge into a bad situation. the odds are the prompter will malfunction even if
by accident.
he screamed at it yesterday, "move up move up"
pathetic, he is lost w/out other people's words.

561 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:40am

re: #551 midwestgak

I am well. Cable guys are in my home working on the line. Lost expanded channels on one TV, but have all channels on the other one. Weird.

(One of them smells)

Cabling to the other TV is bad. Find the bad part and it will work.
I handle all the inside wiring to save money; I replaced most of it a while ago so the cable company wouldn't blame me. Now I just need to get them to replace the drop to the house.

562 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:42am

re: #462 vxbush

Morning, everyone. Before I head off to my first meeting of the day, I wanted to share this link: As usual, Junk Food Science hits it out of the park.

Flu Fears

Good piece, but I have at least one nitpick:

Forget about those blue surgical masks you see everyone wearing on television news. Viruses are tiny enough to go right through them or around the openings. They might help protect you from globs of mucus flying towards your face, but that’s about all.

I'd always thought that the whole idea was to protect against those globs of mucus, in fact, which tend to be where the virii are lodged. The flu virus is unlikely just going to be free-floating around in the air, all by its lonesome.

563 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:53am

re: #551 midwestgak

I am well. Cable guys are in my home working on the line. Lost expanded channels on one TV, but have all channels on the other one. Weird.

(One of them smells)

It's the Olbermann channel. ;)

564 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:56am

re: #547 funky chicken

If nothing else, I hope this episode helps to get American voters to understand the danger of unfettered immigration from our decidedly third world nation on our southern border.

* * * *
I thought the school kids in NY got this flu by going TO Mexico!

565 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:21:56am

re: #543 JacksonTn

Buzz ... I have always thought that Obama would have been just as happy to be a "video star" ... a rapper or some sort of celebrity ... I just don't believe all the "community organizer" crap because he really wants to "help" the little people ... I feel like it is all about the "celebrity" for him ... if anyone wants to call it ODS ... go ahead ... but it is just my gut feeling about him ... has been since I first heard him speak during the primaries ...

I agree. I got the same vibe from Clinton that I'm getting from Obama. He loved to surround himself with movie stars. I appreciated that GWB never did that. I think that is one of the reasons Hollywood hated him so much. He did not invite them to any sleepovers.

566 JacksonTn  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:22:19am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

Avanti ... no, here is my response ...

the 52 percenters are friggin idiots ... who want to take other peoples money ...

567 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:22:34am

re: #554 jorline I'm doing ok, thanks!
Got some company coming by in a while and should ge myself "cleaned up" but...........I'd druther be out here with y'all! LOL!
Hey, is that Ambien good or what?!

568 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:22:38am

re: #544 Kosh's Shadow

I can't believe the MSM is using the same terminology somewhere other than Israel. Just like only Israel can break a cease-fire, no matter how many rockets are launched at Israel, they're still calling this a "peace accord" even though the Taliban flat out broke it.
Or maybe the rule is that militant Muslims can never break a cease fire or peace accord, only their victims.

I was surprised and wondering at the same thing.

Next, the Pakistanis will be building an "apartheid wall"...

569 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:22:41am

re: #555 Lincolntf

"Lost expanded channels on one TV, but have all channels on the other one. Weird.
(One of them smells)"

Smell-o-vision!

Good thing Dirty Jobs isn't in smell-o-vision.
But if there were such a thing, the dogs would love it.

570 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:23:04am

re: #560 SteveC
Evil zionist doctors at work! They aren't stints, they're mini-bombs! Mad mullah mode off.

571 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:23:30am

re: #543 JacksonTn

Buzz ... I have always thought that Obama would have been just as happy to be a "video star" ... a rapper or some sort of celebrity ... I just don't believe all the "community organizer" crap because he really wants to "help" the little people ... I feel like it is all about the "celebrity" for him ... if anyone wants to call it ODS ... go ahead ... but it is just my gut feeling about him ... has been since I first heard him speak during the primaries ...

All the "community organizer crap" has always been about power. "Helping the little people" was always a cover. Not just for Mr. Obama, but for that whole industry. Yes, it is an industry. Politics.

572 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:23:43am

re: #542 tfc3rid

The 'reconciliation' tactic is simply the nuclear option that the GOP was not 'allowed' to use 2 years ago regarding judicial nominees... This led to the McCain 'Gang of 14'...

That was a threat to eliminate the filibuster and it's 60-vote requirement. The current tack is a clause enacted may years ago that was meant for use when continuing resolutions to keep the government operating got bogged down in partisan bickering; streamlining the vote to a simple majority kept things from grinding to a complete halt. It's a rule meant for budgetary measures only, which is how this issue will be recast. It was never intended for application to such large, overreaching measures.

The fact that the Dems are resorting to this tactic indicates that there is fear of defections within their own party over this issue. They are trying to reduce the number of votes needed for passage in order to head this off.

573 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:24:02am

re: #560 SteveC

Israelis do research to predict and prevent heart attacks Palestinians... aww, you know the rest!

What, it turns out that they used Palestinians as their guinea pigs during research?

//////////////////

574 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:24:11am

re: #562 Occasional Reader

I'd always thought that the whole idea was to protect against those globs of mucus, in fact, which tend to be where the virii are lodged. The flu virus is unlikely just going to be free-floating around in the air, all by its lonesome.


Yeah, when they say it's spread by mucus I envision big globs of it.
Ah-choo...!

575 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:24:21am
576 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:24:41am

re: #559 nyc redneck

. . .
pathetic, he is lost w/out other people's words.

And I wonder exactly whose words they are.
Not anyone we've elected to office I bet.

577 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:25:26am

re: #559 nyc redneck

i don't like his voice at all. the emphasis on all the wrong words in the sentence

Also, some of his trademark phony-eloquence techniques are getting really irritating... my favorite (meaning, least favorite) being his apparentl inability to say, "we must do X", instead favoring "we can, we must, and we will do X".

578 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:26:26am

re: #577 Occasional Reader

Also, some of his trademark phony-eloquence techniques are getting really irritating... my favorite (meaning, least favorite) being his apparentl inability to say, "we must do X", instead favoring "we can, we must, and we will do X".

What's an "X?" That sounds scary.

579 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:26:31am

re: #531 jorline

Good morning all...has the sky fallen yet? Are pigs flying?

Nope, but avanti is back to being downdinged for spewing hopychange malarkey.

580 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:26:35am

re: #577 Occasional Reader

Also, some of his trademark phony-eloquence techniques are getting really irritating... my favorite (meaning, least favorite) being his apparentl inability to say, "we must do X", instead favoring "we can, we must, and we will do X".

Elegant simplicity or verbose complexity? Gee, which one will the masses mistake for eloquence? Well, the media has made its choice, TOTUS be damned.

581 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:26:41am

re: #547 funky chicken

If nothing else, I hope this episode helps to get American voters to understand the danger of unfettered immigration from our decidedly third world nation on our southern border.

* * **
The Humane Society sends American veterinarians to Mexico and other countries to teach basic animal husbandry and veterinary procedures to keep alive the animals many people depend on to feed their families.

It would be great if Mexican students could study these advanced fields of medicine, animal science, molecular virology and make a living in their country.

582 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:27:03am
583 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:28:13am

re: #579 Dark_Falcon
That's a good word...malarkey.

584 SteveC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:28:22am

re: #573 laZardo

What, it turns out that they used Palestinians as their guinea pigs during research?

//////////////////

Speaker Pelosi, you're on!

*Nancy rushes out of the House chamber long enough to shout "Torture!" and scoots back in*

585 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:28:30am

re: #548 rightside

See how easily that is turned around? If you truly believe in hopenchange, I ask you to simply re-file your taxes, and take zero deductions for anything.

I await a copy of your amended return.

I've never been tempted to overpay my taxes just because the guy I voted for won, so I missed your point. Heck, I'll even keep the little tax cut that's coming. You guys could all be right, we could be going to hell in a hand cart, but so far "Most" of the country is still hopeful. Here's what you'll be hearing about the first 100 days:

"The release of a poll that shows such a drastic turnaround in national optimism is sure to influence the coverage over the next week in a way that accrues to Obama's benefit.

"For the first time in years, more Americans than not say the country is headed in the right direction, a sign that Barack Obama has used the first 100 days of his presidency to lift the public's mood and inspire hopes for a brighter future."

OK, that comment about hope lifting is clearly MSM spin.

586 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:29:27am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

I wish I had your rose-tinted glasses, or beer goggles, or whatever item you're using to see our country as being in the most perfect condition under Obama's administration.

I don't.

I see a president who lacks experience, makes horrible choices, has an administration that I don't trust in the slightest, and wants me to pay for other people's failures. I see a president that wants to cozy up to countries that would like to see us cease to exist. I see a president that can only speak when he's reading off a teleprompter and makes horrible off-the-cuff remarks when he's not. I see a president that wants to neuter our country by halting weapons programs when other countries are pushing to increase theirs.

I fear for the future of this country because of the policies this president wants to implement. I worry that one morning I'm going to wake up like I did on 9/11 and see something even worse than what happened on that fateful day because of those policies.

No, Avanti. It's not kool-aid. It's reality.

587 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:29:41am
588 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:29:46am

re: #567 realwest

I'm doing ok, thanks!
Got some company coming by in a while and should ge myself "cleaned up" but...........I'd druther be out here with y'all! LOL!
Hey, is that Ambien good or what?!

Ambien is the best. Saturday morning I feel asleep with my laptop still on my lap complete with a half sentence typed on a thread...it didn't make any sense, but what's new...lol

Take your bath and have a great time with your friend.

589 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:30:11am

re: #548 rightside

See how easily that is turned around? If you truly believe in hopenchange, I ask you to simply re-file your taxes, and take zero deductions for anything.

I await a copy of your amended return.

* * * *
THANK YOU!

You'd think all President Obama's nominees for office would have happily and of their OWN ACCORD, OVERPAID their taxes, for the good of the people! For the greater glory of Hope & Change!~

But no, Obama's nominees were cheapskates and cheaters chiseling on their party's position that overpaying taxes is patriotic.

590 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:30:13am

re: #572 SixDegrees

It also means they are willing to do whatever it takes to enact their socialist agenda.

591 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:30:28am

re: #575 buzzsawmonkey

Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man (one of the great novels of the 20th century and a brilliant picaresque journey through the thickets of American racial issues)

Also, quite possibly the first (or one of the first) American novels to contain a description of the head-butt as a fighting technique.

(I don't know why I remember these things.)

592 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:31:01am

Judge disciplines accused in terror trial

An Islamic terrorist suspect, on trial with three others on charges they plotted attacks on American targets in Germany, was thrown out of the courtroom Tuesday after an outburst.

Judge Ottmar Breidling threw Adem Yilmaz, 30, out of the Duesseldorf state court for the day after the suspect yelled: "I want back in my cell!"

Breidling also sentenced him to an extra week's imprisonment, to be added on to any possible sentence.

593 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:31:01am

re: #578 Walter L. Newton

What's an "X?" That sounds scary.

That information is classified.

594 johnnyreb  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:31:08am

re: #571 wrenchwench

All the "community organizer crap" has always been about power. "Helping the little people" was always a cover. Not just for Mr. Obama, but for that whole industry. Yes, it is an industry. Politics.

The people who truly want to and actually do help the people are not the ones who run for elected office IMHO.

595 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:31:30am

re: #586 MrSilverDragon

Ten trillion dollars worth of reality at that.

596 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:31:40am

re: #587 buzzsawmonkey
Ahahahaha!

597 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:31:47am

re: #585 avanti

I've never been tempted to overpay my taxes just because the guy I voted for won, so I missed your point. Heck, I'll even keep the little tax cut that's coming. You guys could all be right, we could be going to hell in a hand cart, but so far "Most" of the country is still hopeful. Here's what you'll be hearing about the first 100 days:

"The release of a poll that shows such a drastic turnaround in national optimism is sure to influence the coverage over the next week in a way that accrues to Obama's benefit.

"For the first time in years, more Americans than not say the country is headed in the right direction, a sign that Barack Obama has used the first 100 days of his presidency to lift the public's mood and inspire hopes for a brighter future."

OK, that comment about hope lifting is clearly MSM spin.

Then most of the country is either uninformed, leftist or stupid.

598 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:32:26am

re: #588 jorline Ah well, I've already showered, I was referring to getting dressed more neatly than I am - you know "he cleans up good!"?!
And I believe that about Ambien. When I take it, I time it so I'm IN BED not more than 10 minutes after I take it!

599 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:32:59am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

Democracy is 2 sheep and 3 wolves deciding on what for dinner.

We are a Representative Republic governed by the The Rule of Law.

WE ARE NOT A FRIGGIN' DEMOCRACY!

Just because 52% the people decided "spreading the wealth around" sounded fine doesn't make it right, much less legal, or even desirable.

600 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:33:20am

re: #579 Dark_Falcon

Nope, but avanti is back to being downdinged for spewing hopychange malarkey.

I had hopes for the kid.

Good morning Dark...hope all is well with you today.

601 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:34:01am

re: #585 avanti

You forgot the poll that says 98.567% of Americans, for the first time in their adult life, are proud of their country. Newsweek poll.
/

602 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:34:23am

re: #579 Dark_Falcon

Nope, but avanti is back to being downdinged for spewing hopychange malarkey.

I guess that's my fate. I'm not unhappy, nor without hope, so down ding away. I'm sorry if you think that being hopeful or happy is only possible the 50% of the time when your guy wins, that's cool, but I disagree.

603 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:34:28am

re: #597 Dark_Falcon
Hey y'all "Then most of the country is either uninformed, leftist or stupid." No need to be redundant, if you just say "leftist", that'll do nicely!

604 acwgusa  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:34:29am

re: #585 avanti

I've never been tempted to overpay my taxes just because the guy I voted for won, so I missed your point. Heck, I'll even keep the little tax cut that's coming. You guys could all be right, we could be going to hell in a hand cart, but so far "Most" of the country is still hopeful. Here's what you'll be hearing about the first 100 days:

"The release of a poll that shows such a drastic turnaround in national optimism is sure to influence the coverage over the next week in a way that accrues to Obama's benefit.

"For the first time in years, more Americans than not say the country is headed in the right direction, a sign that Barack Obama has used the first 100 days of his presidency to lift the public's mood and inspire hopes for a brighter future."

OK, that comment about hope lifting is clearly MSM spin.

I didn't realize the country's mental health system was so bad that folie a deux was spreading beyond two people, Obama and Biden, to the rest of the country.

605 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:34:39am

OH- my apologies. I didn't realize this was an avanti thread.

606 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:34:42am

re: #597 Dark_Falcon

Then most of the country is either uninformed, leftist or stupid.

We learned that back in November.
This is what happens when people are educated to parrot back what they're told, and the MSM tells them to vote for a socialist who doesn't understand how the world works, just how to get elected.

607 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:35:29am

Up next on today's White House image management schedule:

Live dramatizations in several cities of soldiers clad in MOPP gear incinerating (fake) corpses in street, in order to update file photos of same.

/

608 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:35:29am

re: #605 Sharmuta
Some how it reminds me of nodrog threads or cognito!

609 Silvergirl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:35:45am

re: #559 nyc redneck

i don't like his voice at all. the emphasis on all the wrong words in the sentence
is so odd and off putting. he drones. he doesn't speak. and the arrogant manner in which he issues command like single phrases is very annoying.
i don't like the condescending tone he uses. i especially can't stand the attempt
to use different accents based on who he is pandering to. he is bad at accents.
it is embarrassing to watch and listen to this attempt to endear himself to
to whoever he is trying to use.
and now to the content of his speeches?
can't take the leftist commie b.s. at all.
i can't wait for more 'promter sabotage.
i bet o will soon be like a hog on thin ice wondering when he is going to plunge into a bad situation. the odds are the prompter will malfunction even if
by accident.
he screamed at it yesterday, "move up move up"
pathetic, he is lost w/out other people's words.

The way he hits the last word of each sentence gets me. The volume goes up and he sort of bites off the word. Or barks it, as buzzsawmonkey said. More than this, I would happily overlook any speech problems if only we could have some substance, and spoke what I wanted to hear and did what I wanted him to do.

610 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:36:04am

re: #607 Occasional Reader

Up next on today's White House image management schedule:

Live dramatizations in several cities of soldiers clad in MOPP gear incinerating (fake) corpses in street, in order to update file photos of same.

/

They could just use some footage from Repo Man.

611 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:36:48am

re: #608 pingjockey

Some how it reminds me of nodrog threads or cognito!

Where is Cog?

612 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:37:08am

re: #594 johnnyreb

The people who truly want to and actually do help the people are not the ones who run for elected office IMHO.

Perhaps with rare exception, I agree, but my point is that not all those who are making a power grab run for office, either. There are other ways to do it, and being not in office offers a degree of freedom that those in office lack. Think ACORN.

613 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:37:24am

re: #576 reine.de.tout

And I wonder exactly whose words they are.
Not anyone we've elected to office I bet.

His head speechwriter is 27 years old.

614 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:37:26am

re: #597 Dark_Falcon

No... most of the country is seeing the economy improve, and therefore the outlook of the country is improving.

It has little to do with the President, and the President will take the credit, regardless of the merit of any of the actions taken by the President.

Let's keep in mind that the stimulus has barely begun to act, and if things are improving without it, just wait until it kicks in. Then Obama will be crowing 24/7/365 about how his economic plan has brought the economy roaring back - ignoring the massive red hole of debt he's created in his wake.

That too is something most people are ignoring. They don't understand the repercussions of such massive debt, since they have nothing on which to compare the level of spending to.

615 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:37:34am

re: #611 Walter L. Newton

He was here last week, week before, IIRC.

616 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:37:35am

re: #610 Kosh's Shadow

They could just use some footage from Repo Man.

Let's get sushi, and not pay!

617 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:37:50am

avanti- are you a live-by-the-poll kind of guy? So what if a majority of the country feels hopey-changey. They also couldn't find Vietnam on a map.

618 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:38:05am

re: #608 pingjockey

Don't say it out loud!

619 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:38:25am

re: #598 realwest

Ah well, I've already showered, I was referring to getting dressed more neatly than I am - you know "he cleans up good!"?!
And I believe that about Ambien. When I take it, I time it so I'm IN BED not more than 10 minutes after I take it!

Looking good RW!

620 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:38:27am

re: #613 redstateredneck
That is just wrong. WTF does a 27 yr old know?!

621 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:38:30am
622 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:38:44am

re: #615 pingjockey

He was here last week, week before, IIRC.

He's probably doing some deep investigative reporting in Iran or someplace really dangerous.

623 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:38:58am

re: #620 pingjockey

That is just wrong. WTF does a 27 yr old know?!

Tell me about it. I'm mother to a 27 yr old!

624 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:39:02am

re: #614 lawhawk

That too is something most people are ignoring. They don't understand the repercussions of such massive debt, since they have nothing on which to compare the level of spending to.


dingdingdingding

Also, voters under the age of 40 or so have no real memory of high inflation. That's... probably about the change, unfortunately.

625 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:39:12am

re: #618 Sharmuta
Oh crap! Too late! But I didn't say it three times so we're okay...I think.

626 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:39:52am
627 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:39:58am

Good morning lizards!

I posted this in the spinoffs earlier before I went out. Time magazine has a disgusting story about Palestinian prisoners...

Visiting Daddy in Prison: A Palestinian Ordeal

Spending time with her dad requires that six-year-old Jinan undertake a bizarre and arduous odyssey. Usually, she travels alone, but last Monday, the Palestinian girl with the rosebud smile and bouncing energy was accompanied by her younger sisters, Dania, 4, and Noor, 2, on the journey to the Israeli prison that holds her father.

At home in the beleaguered West Bank town of Qalqilya, as her mother dressed her before dawn in an almond-green blouse and jeans, Jinan asks the same question she always does: "Mommy, why does Daddy have to sleep on the Israeli side?" And her mother, Salam Nazal, comforts her by saying: "Because that's where the best Palestinian men go to sleep, and your father is one of them." The town, which has elected a Hamas mayor, is known as a center of Palestinian militancy, and Israeli security forces conduct raids there on average five times a week.

And who's fault is it for the conflict between Israel & the Palis?

With so many Palestinians still locked up in Israel, demands for prisoner releases remain at the center of most Israeli-Palestinian political negotiations. Those behind bars are a lost generation of Palestinians, and it's a safe bet that their children, like Jinan and her sisters, will inherit their parents' bitterness toward Israel.

Israel, of course.///

628 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:39:59am

re: #621 buzzsawmonkey

... "guy" here only on a faute de mieux basis, anyway--people were not so much enthusiastic about him, but felt that he would be better, overall, for the country.

Don't use Spanish around Avanti, he won't understand it./

629 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:40:08am

re: #620 pingjockey

That is just wrong. WTF does a 27 yr old know?!

I'm 21.

I shudder to think about what I know.

/ D8

630 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:40:43am

re: #623 redstateredneck
This is a really broad brush.....but, most 27 yr olds who haven't been in the military, peace corps, something like that do not know shit about the real world...IMO.

631 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:41:15am

re: #628 Walter L. Newton

Don't use Spanish around Avanti, he won't understand it./

That's not Spanish, you idiot, it's clearly Austrian!

632 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:41:18am

re: #629 laZardo
You are the exception that proves my theory!

633 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:41:37am

re: #631 Occasional Reader

That's not Spanish, you idiot, it's clearly Austrian!

Sorry, I meant Brazilian.

634 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:42:07am

re: #633 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, I meant Brazilian.

How many are a Brazilian again?

635 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:42:29am

re: #556 Walter L. Newton


I guess the only hope you care about is if the casinos in Atlantic City stay open and you can talk poor slobs out of their old cars for pennies on a dollar.

Walter, you have a way of cutting to the heart of a issue, even if a bit crudely on occasion. Yes, as long as I'm supporting my family, and enjoying my life, I'm pretty happy. I don't let the POTUS flying in some pizza's affect that, nor obsess about the worst that could happen in the future, I just tend to stay pretty mellow through different POTUS's from the just OK to the great ones.

636 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:42:31am

re: #632 pingjockey

Not since I changed my profile, no.

/run, save yerselves!

637 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:42:39am

re: #627 NJDhockeyfan
Maybe if they didn't try to blow shit up, kill Israelis they wouldn't be locked up!

638 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:42:44am

re: #630 pingjockey

but, most 27 yr olds who haven't been in the military, peace corps, something like that do not know shit about the real world...IMO.

Indeed, an important qualifier there.... I'm always amazed at how much responsibility is thrust upon very young people in the military, both in combat and non-combat roles. (Peace corps... I'd say it's a solid "that depends".)

639 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:42:53am

Time for more fun with puns!

6. Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

7. "Doc, I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home.'" "That sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome."
"Is it common?"
Well, "It's Not Unusual."

8. Two cows are standing next to each other in a field. Daisy says to Dolly, "I was artificially inseminated this morning."

"I don't believe you," says Dolly.

"It's true, no bull!" exclaims Daisy.

640 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:43:01am

re: #599 jcm
Good morning jcm - I'm sitting here wondering why y'all are wasting bandwidth on him?
He clearly understands nothing about our Constitutional form of government, is ready to proclaim Obama the bestest president evah after a less than sparkling 120 days in office, no doubt suffered SO MUCH from BDS he wouldn't credit Bush with keeping America safe for seven long years after 9/11, for ending a despotic and murderous regime in Iraq and for running up deficits because of a) Katrina and Gustav b) fighting two wars contemporaneosly and bringing democracy to Iraq and c) Democrats (and some Republicans) adding on pork project after pork project to his budget bills - and then threatening to over ride his veto if he used it, and LOVES the idea of Obama's budget projecting an almost TWO TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT - cause, ya know, he's thinking of the children.

641 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:43:21am

re: #636 laZardo
Heh!

642 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:44:19am

re: #633 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, I meant Brazilian.

Actually... it's funny, I can understand spoken Brazilian Portugese fairly well, but Portugese Portugese, not so much. I'm told that even Brazilians can have trouble with it.

643 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:44:19am

re: #638 Occasional Reader
The reason I put the PC in there is because the kids do go overseas and see what life is like.

644 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:44:38am

re: #627 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

I posted this in the spinoffs earlier before I went out. Time magazine has a disgusting story about Palestinian prisoners...

Visiting Daddy in Prison: A Palestinian Ordeal

Israel, of course.///

I'm not going to the link, but does it say what her father did? Like kill Israelis?
Does she carry a Farfur toy? Practice suicide bomb belt? AK-47 and grenades?
Her father probably considers her a "future weapon".

645 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:44:46am

re: #614 lawhawk

And thus, guaranteeing himeself a hopey changrey second term...

646 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:44:57am

re: #630 pingjockey

This is a really broad brush.....but, most 27 yr olds who haven't been in the military, peace corps, something like that do not know shit about the real world...IMO.

These days, most 27 year olds are still living off the avails of childhood (aka mooching off the folks).

647 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:02am

re: #600 jorline

I had hopes for the kid.

Good morning Dark...hope all is well with you today.

I am well. Still on track to make my quotas, and looking forward to my first day off in almost 2 weeks on Friday.

648 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:16am

re: #634 rightside

How many are a Brazilian again?

Ask O.R. He's into things like that.

649 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:23am

re: #627 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

I posted this in the spinoffs earlier before I went out. Time magazine has a disgusting story about Palestinian prisoners...

Visiting Daddy in Prison: A Palestinian Ordeal

Israel, of course.///

I read the article, it is vomitous. Where is their article about "Visiting Gilad Shalit in Prison"?

650 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:32am

re: #611 Walter L. Newton
Hey good morning Walter - just wanted to thank you for your efforts in helping Dusty Vet out!

651 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:34am

re: #646 Spare O'Lake

These days, most 27 year olds are still living off the avails of childhood (aka mooching off the folks).

I hear 'ya!

652 johnnyreb  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:43am

re: #606 Kosh's Shadow

We learned that back in November.
This is what happens when people are educated to parrot back what they're told, and the MSM tells them to vote for a socialist who doesn't understand how the world works, just how to get elected.

I disagree. I blame this entire mess on white guilt. At first I thought for sure that Hillary was going to win because it was her "turn". But the MSM broke that deal and jumped in with both feet for Obama. They saw a very good chance to influence an election and put a black man in as President. To the very serious left white people in power, this was the only way to assuage their guilt over being successful.

Well they got what they wished for, but they did not read the entire label on the package.

653 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:45am

re: #635 avanti

Walter, you have a way of cutting to the heart of a issue, even if a bit crudely on occasion. Yes, as long as I'm supporting my family, and enjoying my life, I'm pretty happy. I don't let the POTUS flying in some pizza's affect that, nor obsess about the worst that could happen in the future, I just tend to stay pretty mellow through different POTUS's from the just OK to the great ones.

I have to up ding you on that one for the honesty. Also, proves my point and speaks volumes about you.

I know if I were you, after that little diatribe above, I would go hide in a corner and hope that no one steps on me for being a selfish boob.

654 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:45:50am

re: #639 redstateredneck

Time for more fun with puns!

Then there was the train conductor who murdered someone. He got the death penalty, the electric chair.
They put him in the chair, and nothing happened. The current flowed, but he was fine.
He was a good conductor.

655 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:46:30am

re: #648 Honorary Yooper

Ask O.R. He's into things like that.

"Brazilian" is the loneliest number...

656 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:46:31am

re: #368 opnion

Cause if you go, you will come back.

Not when I'm in charge.

657 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:46:45am

re: #608 pingjockey

Some how it reminds me of nodrog threads or cognito!

Heh. At least it's not a Jeppo thread.

658 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:46:46am

re: #585 avanti

I've never been tempted to overpay my taxes just because the guy I voted for won, so I missed your point. Heck, I'll even keep the little tax cut that's coming. You guys could all be right, we could be going to hell in a hand cart, but so far "Most" of the country is still hopeful. Here's what you'll be hearing about the first 100 days:

"The release of a poll that shows such a drastic turnaround in national optimism is sure to influence the coverage over the next week in a way that accrues to Obama's benefit.

"For the first time in years, more Americans than not say the country is headed in the right direction, a sign that Barack Obama has used the first 100 days of his presidency to lift the public's mood and inspire hopes for a brighter future."

OK, that comment about hope lifting is clearly MSM spin.

Oh yeah, you also forgot the poll that says 96.475% of Americans think Obama is hip and cool. Entertainment Tonite poll.

659 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:46:51am

re: #642 Occasional Reader

Actually... it's funny, I can understand spoken Brazilian Portugese fairly well, but Portugese Portugese, not so much. I'm told that even Brazilians can have trouble with it.

My reference was to the fact that I believe I read a report that Obama made another gaff in his recent South American meeting and called the language of Brazil "Brazilian."

660 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:47:03am

re: #652 johnnyreb

I blame this entire mess on white guilt.


Black dude trumps white woman.

661 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:47:23am

re: #635 avanti

Walter, you have a way of cutting to the heart of a issue, even if a bit crudely on occasion. Yes, as long as I'm supporting my family, and enjoying my life, I'm pretty happy. I don't let the POTUS flying in some pizza's affect that, nor obsess about the worst that could happen in the future, I just tend to stay pretty mellow through different POTUS's from the just OK to the great ones.

That post I have to upding, because it does show a very good attitude on life.

662 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:47:37am

re: #654 Kosh's Shadow

That one made me laugh.

663 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:47:55am

re: #659 Walter L. Newton

Heh. In Mexico they speak Mexican and we speak American here.

664 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:48:15am

re: #644 Kosh's Shadow

I'm not going to the link, but does it say what her father did? Like kill Israelis?
Does she carry a Farfur toy? Practice suicide bomb belt? AK-47 and grenades?
Her father probably considers her a "future weapon".

Here:

Ali Nazal, 35, who sold clothes off a cart in the streets, is one of over 10,300 Palestinian detainees currently inside Israeli jails. Although he has yet to be tried, Nazal has been behind bars for the past two years. He faces up to 10 years if convicted for possessing weapons and harboring a fugitive - charges the family insists are based on false evidence from anonymous informers working for the Israeli security services. Salam Nazal says no weapons were found in their home, but says the Israeli military demolished it anyway. The Israelis maintain that Nazal was an active member of a militant organization, and part of a cell that had been planning a terror attack.

He was set up by the Jooooos!

665 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:48:34am

re: #647 Dark_Falcon

I am well. Still on track to make my quotas, and looking forward to my first day off in almost 2 weeks on Friday.

Treat yourself to ham, pork ribs, bacon...anything pork and pig out...lol

Swine flu isn't passed by eating pork is it?
/////

Congrats Dark, I'm glad you hit your quotas.

666 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:48:44am

re: #641 pingjockey

Seriously though, it's not so much that I want Obama to succeed as it is that I don't want him to fail. My generation, jaded with conservatism, did their part in putting him into office.

I shudder to think how doubly-jaded with politics we(?) will grow up to be if he fails. Maybe he'll realize what he's been doing in the nick of time, I don't know. But I'm not getting my hopes up either way.

667 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:49:23am

re: #650 realwest

Hey good morning Walter - just wanted to thank you for your efforts in helping Dusty Vet out!

Thanks.

668 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:49:26am

re: #663 Killgore Trout

Heh. In Mexico they speak Mexican and we speak American here.

And in South America they speak South American.

669 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:49:53am

re: #666 laZardo

Hell, I voted for McGovern and it didn't scar me for life. Of course, he lost, so....

670 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:49:59am

re: #597 Dark_Falcon

Then most of the country is either uninformed, leftist or stupid.

We may be, but give me a simple reality. Even if the majority is just hopeful because they are uninformed, leftist or stupid, or a combination of the three, in the long run, is that not a good thing ?
Hopeful citizens will spend more, making the economy better, making more folks happy, spending more. BTW, I don't accept that that all the stupid, uniformed folk are on the left and in the middle, they are everywhere.

671 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:50:04am

re: #614 lawhawk
" most of the country is seeing the economy improve"
Really? Must not be all those folks who are still unemployed or the folks at GM and Chrysler, or the banks that want to repay the TARP money but that genius Geithner (who couldn't use TurboTax without screwing it up) won't let them re-pay it, or those folks wondering how come Obama hasn't appointed a Surgeon General, a new head of the CDC (and thus had 19 critical jobs at CDC remain vacant) or can't get anyone to take jobs at the Treasury Department or...........well, y'all get the idea.

672 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:50:09am
673 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:50:18am

re: #649 Alouette

I read the article, it is vomitous. Where is their article about "Visiting Gilad Shalit in Prison"?

They would never write an article like that. "Israeli soldier are the evil oppressors of the poor, peaceful Palestinians." That's how the ignorant left thinks, the violent left understands that Palis are often murderous but thinks that the Israelis deserve it.

674 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:50:38am

re: #663 Killgore Trout

Heh. In Mexico they speak Mexican and we speak American here.

And in Brazil they speak Portuguese, so, what's your point. Obama got it wrong, again!

You can't change the facts, Killgore, don't start.

675 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:50:49am

re: #643 pingjockey

The reason I put the PC in there is because the kids do go overseas and see what life is like.

And while they may come back from their indoctrination as ra-a-aving liberal lunatics, they at least will complain about somebody else having it bad, instead of complaining about their own sorry lot, as they have gained an appreciation for how very well they are sheltered and provisioned at home. The real problem arises when these foks decide that America is rich and shitholes are poor because *America* is doing something wrong! But still preferable to the poor-me crowd who have never seen real suffering.

676 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:50:58am

re: #659 Walter L. Newton

My reference was to the fact that I believe I read a report that Obama made another gaff in his recent South American meeting and called the language of Brazil "Brazilian."

I hadn't heard that. Oh, dear.

Nevertheless, Obama did receive this important Brazilian endorsement. (NSFW)

677 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:51:07am

re: #670 avanti

We may be, but give me a simple reality. Even if the majority is just hopeful because they are uninformed, leftist or stupid, or a combination of the three, in the long run, is that not a good thing ?
Hopeful citizens will spend more, making the economy better, making more folks happy, spending more. BTW, I don't accept that that all the stupid, uniformed folk are on the left and in the middle, they are everywhere.

Soma!

678 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:51:32am

re: #668 wrenchwench

And in South America they speak South American.

I thought they spoke Latin?

679 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:51:35am

re: #619 jorline
ROTFLMAO! Great one jorline! Thank you for that!

680 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:51:36am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

'... we'd all be married to Mel Gibson'?

No effen way!
Not if he was the last man on Earth!

Gah!

681 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:51:44am

re: #668 wrenchwench

And in South America they speak South American.

Up here we speak the Queen's Canajun.

682 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:52:12am

re: #640 realwest

Good morning jcm - I'm sitting here wondering why y'all are wasting bandwidth on him?
He clearly understands nothing about our Constitutional form of government, is ready to proclaim Obama the bestest president evah after a less than sparkling 120 days in office, no doubt suffered SO MUCH from BDS he wouldn't credit Bush with keeping America safe for seven long years after 9/11, for ending a despotic and murderous regime in Iraq and for running up deficits because of a) Katrina and Gustav b) fighting two wars contemporaneosly and bringing democracy to Iraq and c) Democrats (and some Republicans) adding on pork project after pork project to his budget bills - and then threatening to over ride his veto if he used it, and LOVES the idea of Obama's budget projecting an almost TWO TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT - cause, ya know, he's thinking of the children.

LOL!

I never give up hope.... I know a lot like him at work, I keep it up with humor, a few zingers, and keep bringing them back to core values.

LIFE
LIBERTY
PROPERTY

In the Bible Timothy was warned against "every wind of teaching" it not only applies to have a spiritual anchor. It applies to having a philosophical anchor for the real world.

Right now the winds of teaching are prevailing, but when the storm passes only those things of enduring value remain.

683 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:52:28am

re: #676 Occasional Reader

I hadn't heard that. Oh, dear.

Nevertheless, Obama did receive this important Brazilian endorsement. (NSFW)


Does Michelle know about this?

684 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:54:16am

re: #683 redstateredneck

Does Michelle know about this?


Sure. Michelle is painted on her backside.

685 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:54:32am

re: #670 avanti

We may be, but give me a simple reality. Even if the majority is just hopeful because they are uninformed, leftist or stupid, or a combination of the three, in the long run, is that not a good thing ?
Hopeful citizens will spend more, making the economy better, making more folks happy, spending more. BTW, I don't accept that that all the stupid, uniformed folk are on the left and in the middle, they are everywhere.

Hope for the hopeless.

686 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:54:52am

re: #684 KenJen

Sure. Michelle is painted on her backside.

LOL!

687 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:54:55am

re: #585 avanti

My point about taxes is this: obama wants to correct the injustice done to the poor by the rich. In his world, the only way people get rich, is by taking money from poor people. That is typical progressive/liberal thinking. Only one problem with that model. It's static. This is not a zero sum game, whereby in order for one person to make a dollar, he must take it from another.

Now, it was glaringly obvious that this was his plan, ever since he answered Joe the plumbers question. Taking more from those who produce, and giving it to those who don't.

So, I submit to you, since you support him, and his ideas, you must now pay more taxes. If you truly believe in that, prove it by amending your tax return, and taking zero deductions, so that you give more of your earned money to the government.

If you don't, then why are you forcing us to do it?

Again, I await your amended tax return.

688 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:55:03am

re: #681 Spare O'Lake

Up here we speak the Queen's Canajun.

Meaning, you lisp and do really sibilant "esses"?
/

689 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:56:08am

re: #670 avanti

We may be, but give me a simple reality. Even if the majority is just hopeful because they are uninformed, leftist or stupid, or a combination of the three, in the long run, is that not a good thing ?
Hopeful citizens will spend more, making the economy better, making more folks happy, spending more. BTW, I don't accept that that all the stupid, uniformed folk are on the left and in the middle, they are everywhere.

You know, I really want to have hope. I do. Unfortunately, there's that thing called reality that gets in the way. Change the reality, maybe I'll hope.

690 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:56:10am

re: #688 Occasional Reader

Meaning, you lisp and do really sibilant "esses"?
/

Please leave Barney Frank out of this.

691 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:56:22am

re: #676 Occasional Reader

Over here, he has the support of our president and Big Medicine.

Youtube Video

/potential cure for ODS?

692 pingjockey  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:56:23am

later folks!

693 realwest  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:57:22am

Well gotta run you all - hope you have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

694 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:57:41am

Nixon said: If the President says it's legal, it's legal!

(paraphrasing actor Frank Langella in the movie Nixon/Frost or Frost/Nixon)

If Pres. Obama wants to spread the wealth around, it's legal!
(And 52% agree).

I think Obama sounds like Nixon, maybe it's the gravitasy, gravelly Illinois midwestern voice.

The idea that in 2009, liberals are in love with a Nixonian schemer and all his henchmen, is wickedly delicious.

The results are already noxious.

695 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:57:49am

re: #692 pingjockey

later folks!

Bye.

696 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:57:55am

Game going offline after Islamic group complains


CAIRO (AP) — An influential Islamic group branded an online video game depicting religious figures fighting each other as offensive to Muslims and Christians and successfully demanded Tuesday that it be taken offline.

In the game "Faith Fighter," caricatures of Jesus, the Prophet Muhammad, Buddha, God and the Hindu god Ganesh fight each other against a backdrop of burning buildings. God attacks with bolts of lighting and pillars of fire while the turbaned Muhammad can summon a burning black meteorite.

The Saudi-based Organization of the Islamic Conference, which represents most Muslim nations, said it should be removed from the Internet.

"The computer game was incendiary in its content and offensive to Muslims and Christians. ... The game would serve no other purpose than to incite intolerance," an OIC statement said.

Game designer Molleindustria told the Associated Press the game, which had been around for more than a year and played millions of times, was misunderstood but would be removed.

"This was meant to be a game against intolerance and against the one-way Islamophobic satire of the Danish Muhammad cartoons," Molleindustria said in an e-mail message. "So if a respectable organization didn't understand the irony and the message, we failed."

Islamic law generally opposes physical depictions of the prophet.

697 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:58:30am

re: #692 pingjockey

re: #693 realwest

Take care guys!

698 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:58:36am

re: #692 pingjockey

re: #693 realwest

Cheers to the both-a-ye'.

699 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:59:34am

What do you think of this?

700 kansas  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:59:59am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

OK, but is there nothing this douchebag does that concerns you maybe just a little?

701 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:00:05am

re: #699 yma o hyd

What do you think of this?

Mike Meyers?

702 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:00:17am

re: #613 redstateredneck

His head speechwriter is 27 years old.

I was thinking more along the lines of which of Obama's big $ backers is forming the O's policies. Obama is so unfamiliar with what he's talking about that he can't wing it for a few sentences or paragraphs. Personally the only time I have difficulty talking about something is when I'm trying to explain somebody else's ideas - when it's my own ideas I'm talking about, i have no trouble explaining.

703 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:00:45am

re: #701 Walter L. Newton

Mike Meyers?

Its a she ...

Two more guesses!

704 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:00:46am

Good morning lizards!
How is everyone today?

705 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:01:10am

re: #699 yma o hyd

What do you think of this?

"I'm not just the President of the Hair Club For Swine... I'm also a member."

/sorry, riffing on an old American t.v. commercial

706 JacksonTn  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #687 rightside

rightside ... I guess I have been doing something wrong then ... seems like every time I write a check to our employees it is taken out of our account ... should it be coming from "their" account? ... geez ... I could have been taking from "the poor" all along ... some of Obama's supporters do not realize where the money for the paychecks comes from ... of course, they would like all employees to be employees of the government .. that would be their wet dream ...

707 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:01:37am

re: #687 rightside

If you don't, then why are you forcing us to do it?
Again, I await your amended tax return.

I don't begrudge you making over 250K, but you lived through a lot higher rates as a wealthy tax payer under Reagan. As I've said before, I do agree with letting the Bush tax cut for the top tax bracket expire and will gladly pay the extra 3% of anything over 250K, but I'm a few 100K short of that figure.

708 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:01:47am

re: #674 Walter L. Newton

Jeez, dude. Just trying (and failing apparently) to make a joke.

709 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:01:56am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Good morning lizards!
How is everyone today?


Hopey and changey, thanks. You?

710 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:02:02am

re: #703 yma o hyd

Its a she ...

Two more guesses!

Terry Hatcher without her makeup?

711 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:02:19am

re: #696 NJDhockeyfan

In this case, it's not just the Muslims.

712 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:02:24am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Good morning lizards!
How is everyone today?

It's still swinging.

713 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:02:26am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Good morning lizards!
How is everyone today?

Hiya, {HH}!

We had the first thunderstorm today - nothing big or serious, but Madame hid under the table...

714 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:02:37am

re: #699 yma o hyd

a pig that pleasures himself too much?

715 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:16am

re: #700 kansas

OK, but is there nothing this douchebag does that concerns you maybe just a little?

Sure, I'm concerned about the spending. I HOPE it was necessary to save the economy, but we won't know for a while.

716 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:21am

re: #699 yma o hyd

What do you think of this?

Bette Midler?

717 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:30am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Hoops!

718 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:37am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

:%P%

/"Good news first, the world's in great shape."

719 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:52am

re: #710 HoosierHoops

Terry Hatcher without her makeup?

Nope - her name is 'Elizabeth'.

(No, its not The Queen in disguise!)

720 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:53am

re: #707 avanti

I don't begrudge you making over 250K, but you lived through a lot higher rates as a wealthy tax payer under Reagan. As I've said before, I do agree with letting the Bush tax cut for the top tax bracket expire and will gladly pay the extra 3% of anything over 250K, but I'm a few 100K short of that figure.

Screw you! I don't care if you want to pay more of your money, but how dare you and 0bama think that everyone is so able to fork over their property as you.

721 aggieann  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:03:56am

re: #400 Lincolntf

Roses are red, violets are blue
One peaked Porky,
And we've all got the flu.

Children's rope-skipping rhyme from 1918:

I had a little bird,
Its name was Enza.
I opened the window,
And in-flu-enza.

722 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:04:08am

re: #708 Killgore Trout

Jeez, dude. Just trying (and failing apparently) to make a joke.

I didn't catch the humor, sorry Killgore.

723 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:04:25am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Morning Hoosier!

724 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:04:27am

re: #706 JacksonTn

I know. How many poor people have ever hired you?

725 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:04:38am

re: #714 rightside

a pig that pleasures himself too much?

Naw - far too gentle and well brought up for that!

726 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:04:38am

re: #585 avanti

I've never been tempted to overpay my taxes just because the guy I voted for won, so I missed your point. Heck, I'll even keep the little tax cut that's coming. You guys could all be right, we could be going to hell in a hand cart, but so far "Most" of the country is still hopeful. Here's what you'll be hearing about the first 100 days:

"The release of a poll that shows such a drastic turnaround in national optimism is sure to influence the coverage over the next week in a way that accrues to Obama's benefit.

"For the first time in years, more Americans than not say the country is headed in the right direction, a sign that Barack Obama has used the first 100 days of his presidency to lift the public's mood and inspire hopes for a brighter future."

OK, that comment about hope lifting is clearly MSM spin.

Avanti, I wonder how much of the public that are so approving of Obama can tell you who the Vice President is , or could name one Supreme Court Justice.
People are busy, they hear MSM sound bites & buy in.

727 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:04:53am
728 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:09am

Just another thought regarding the AF1 flyover photo op yesterday...

Imagine iif NYC building were equipped with anti-aircraft weaponry to deal with future 9/11 type plots...

Does this type of thing show the enemy that they can still get close to Manhattan?

729 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:09am

re: #715 avanti

Sure, I'm concerned about the spending. I HOPE it was necessary to save the economy, but we won't know for a while.

We already know: It wasn't necessary and it will hurt the economy in the long run.

730 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:10am

re: #699 yma o hyd

I'm confused. Do I smoke it or turn it into a stew?

731 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:15am

re: #716 KenJen

Bette Midler?

Aw - now you're dissing a very rare breed indeed!

:-)

732 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:34am

Obama’s Foreign Policy Disasters
Frontpage Interview with Victor Davis Hanson


What report card would you give the Obama administration in terms of foreign policy right now? Why?

Hanson: An Incomplete that at the present rate will turn into a D/F if he is not careful.

Obama has confused a number of issues: intractable problems like North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, Islamic terrorism, etc. both pre- and post-dated George Bush; they present only bad and worse choices, and are predicated on different agendas of authoritarians that hinge on whether the United States can or cannot deter their regional megalomaniac dreams.

In the long-term, Obama's nontraditional heritage and charisma make little difference; on the other hand, serial apologies, "Bush did it", the "reset button" ad nauseam, trumpeting the "I was only (fill in the blank) when that happened" etc. have a brief shelf life, and achieve only a transitory buzz, similar to a Bono-celebrity tour.

He needs to cut out the messianic style, and realize that millions of brave souls, who invest at great danger in democracy, freedom, open markets, etc. around the world, count on an American President for moral support and guidance against a bullying Russia, Iranian-backed Hezbollah, Chavez's thugs, Castro jailers, et al.

When they see Obama's moral equivalence, they realize they are on their own and must cut their own deals to survive--understanding that multicultural trendiness is now a cynical cover for moral laxity and 'can't we all get along?' appeasement. So by all means smile and shake hands, but don't confuse that for tough diplomacy or protecting American global interests.

RTWFT!

733 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:40am

re: #714 rightside

a pig that pleasures himself too much?

The hooves looked clean-shaven.

734 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:05:43am

Looks like Crazy Pam did another Hitler bunker video. I thought the first one was actually kinda funny But they get progressively less funny as she does more installments. My nic is mentioned in the screencap so I'm tempted to watch. Is this one any good?

735 NYCHardhat  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:06:08am

To all the Lizards,

What happened in NYC yesterday is just one more example of how this POTUS of ours is a unhinged celebrity. Is this ODS? I don't think so. I'm tired of this man. I'm tired of the media needing him to succeed so they have "history" to write about. I don't want our country to fail, but I think that the USA succeeding and Obama succeeding are mutually exclusive. I am pulling for a full recovery from this "cancer."

736 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:06:14am

re: #715 avanti

Sure, I'm concerned about the spending. I HOPE it was necessary to save the economy, but we won't know for a while.

Short term help with a long term downside. How is it going to help the economy in the long run if we're flat ass broke?!

737 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:06:17am

re: #709 Occasional Reader

Hopey and changey, thanks. You?

Hi OR! I'm hanging out at home while workers put in new flooring...Dirty job

738 J.S.  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:06:41am

And in Canada, we speak Canadian.

CNN right now is playing an interview with Mexicans who allege that the swine flu did not originate in Mexico -- No! of course not! -- it (according to those interviewed) began in Canada -- a Canadian brought the disease to Mexico...(more stuck on stupid, I guess. Or "Blame Canada!".)

739 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:06:47am

#513 buzzsawmonkey

...He is, in other words, not an orator, but a megaphone. One is tempted to say "mega-phony," since the words and thoughts he renders clearly are not his; were they even initially his own, cleaned up and honed by speechwriters, he would show more acquaintance with the subject matter than he does.

But these failures do not impress most of his listeners. They want to believe; they like the sound of his voice, and if they listen at all to what he is actually saying, it is only to the optimistic phrases and the promises, not the substance of what is being said.

He is the Milli Vanilli of politics.

740 NYCHardhat  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:13am

re: #707 avanti

Just wait until inflation hits and we all are making over 250K.

741 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:21am

Imagine iif NYC building were equipped with anti-aircraft weaponry to deal with future 9/11 type plots...


It could have been shot down.

742 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:33am

re: #707 avanti

First, it's not just above $250K, all of obamas campaign promises come with an expiration date.

Second, that's fine, pay my 3% too then as well. Since I would never force anyone else to give up more of what they earn, you pay my share too.

Some people pay 0 in taxes, yet get a refund. Why?

743 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:35am

re: #734 Killgore Trout

Looks like Crazy Pam did another Hitler bunker video. I thought the first one was actually kinda funny But they get progressively less funny as she does more installments. My nic is mentioned in the screencap so I'm tempted to watch. Is this one any good?

Can you explain what you are talking about? What is a Pam "hitler bunker video." Your nic is in what screen cap?

744 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:38am

re: #711 laZardo

In this case, it's not just the Muslims.

The game company seems to like to piss people off.


I'd suggest that if you're offended by the content of Faith Fighter, some of Molleindustria's other games may be worth your time, including Operation: Pedopriest, Orgasm Simulator and Queerland. That's the kind of fun everyone can agree on.
745 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:42am

re: #727 buzzsawmonkey

Is that a shpig?

The idea of having a sportcoat made of genuine pig-wool is...bracing.

Thats what I thought, at first.
She is however a very rare breed: a rare Austrian Mangalitza Gilt

I want one ...

746 kansas  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:07:46am

re: #715 avanti

Sure, I'm concerned about the spending. I HOPE it was necessary to save the economy, but we won't know for a while.

So if the economy gets worse, the Great O just couldn't save it from the evil Republicans. If it gets better, he did? What a load. 100 days seems like 4 years. Is this over yet?

747 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:01am

re: #713 yma o hyd

Hiya, {HH}!

We had the first thunderstorm today - nothing big or serious, but Madame hid under the table...

We had thunderstorms last night..Poor winston jumped into bed and huddled in fear..My little prince is a sissy! LOL

748 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:07am

re: #707 avanti

I don't begrudge you making over 250K, but you lived through a lot higher rates as a wealthy tax payer under Reagan. As I've said before, I do agree with letting the Bush tax cut for the top tax bracket expire and will gladly pay the extra 3% of anything over 250K, but I'm a few 100K short of that figure.

How do you know what rightside or anyone else made during the Reagan years? I made less than $10K in 1981 because I had just graduated from high school. One of the things the soak the rich types forget is that "the rich" could be YOU in 20 years. (Not you personally, I mean the general you.) I was certainly not a wealthy taxpayer then, and in fact I'm not now -- filing jointly, my husband and I do not come close to $250K. But we'd like to, and if we work hard and make good decisions, it's certainly possible for us in a couple of years. "The Rich" are not a static group of people who exit the womb earning $250K a year, any more than the poor are a static group who will never earn above minimum wage.

749 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:09am

re: #734 Killgore Trout

Another video?! Well- they must be effectively stopping jihadis, or she would have something better to do, right?

750 tfc3rid  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #741 KenJen
It could have been shot down.

Ding ding ding!

751 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:34am

re: #727 buzzsawmonkey

Is that a shpig?

The idea of having a sportcoat made of genuine pig-wool is...bracing.

If I was a man of evil mind, I would urge making clothing for Islamist prisoners out such wool, if I were such man (I am not).

752 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:40am

re: #730 calcajun

mmmmm, Pork soda.

753 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:43am

re: #738 J.S.

And in Canada, we speak Canadian.

CNN right now is playing an interview with Mexicans who allege that the swine flu did not originate in Mexico -- No! of course not! -- it (according to those interviewed) began in Canada -- a Canadian brought the disease to Mexico...(more stuck on stupid, I guess. Or "Blame Canada!".)

Has anyone blamed George Bush yet?

754 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:08:45am

re: #730 calcajun

I'm confused. Do I smoke it or turn it into a stew?

Heh.
I think, cuddling and cherishing her is more whats needed.

755 kansas  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:09:21am

re: #736 Sharmuta

Short term help with a long term downside. How is it going to help the economy in the long run if we're flat ass broke?!

Doesn't matter, that will be Bush's fault. He did all he could./

756 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:09:30am

re: #730 calcajun

I'm confused. Do I smoke it or turn it into a stew?

Mr Cajun, you turn it into a gumbo or a jambalaya

757 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:09:53am

re: #699 yma o hyd

What do you think of this?

Where did you find that picture of Rosie?

758 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:09:57am

re: #723 midwestgak

Morning Hoosier!


Good morning Gak! You doing alright?

759 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:10:09am

re: #737 HoosierHoops

Hi OR! I'm hanging out at home while workers put in new flooring...Dirty job

I saw you get the roofers in at the same time, and let 'em fight it out!

760 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:10:11am

re: #743 Walter L. Newton

Pam at Altlas Shrugs has been making parody videos of LGF by adding subtitles to a clip of Hitler yelling at his generals.

761 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:10:45am

re: #740 NYCHardhat

Just wait until inflation hits and we all are making over 250K.

And a loaf of bread is $1000.

762 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:10:49am

re: #754 yma o hyd

Heh.
I think, cuddling and cherishing her is more whats needed.

Yeah. Right before slaughtering, gutting, scraping smoking and eating.

763 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:11:14am

re: #756 reine.de.tout

Mr Cajun, you turn it into a gumbo or a jambalaya

But first you make a roux.

764 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:11:18am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

Pam at Altlas Shrugs has been making parody videos of LGF by adding subtitles to a clip of Hitler yelling at his generals.

Because, you know, it stops jihadis.

765 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:11:38am

re: #738 J.S.

And in Canada, we speak Canadian.

CNN right now is playing an interview with Mexicans who allege that the swine flu did not originate in Mexico -- No! of course not! -- it (according to those interviewed) began in Canada -- a Canadian brought the disease to Mexico...(more stuck on stupid, I guess. Or "Blame Canada!".)

They must be quoting Janet Napolitano.

766 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:11:52am

re: #763 redstateredneck

But first you make a roux.

ALWAYS!

767 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:08am

re: #734 Killgore Trout

Looks like Crazy Pam did another Hitler bunker video. I thought the first one was actually kinda funny But they get progressively less funny as she does more installments. My nic is mentioned in the screencap so I'm tempted to watch. Is this one any good?

Never mind, I found it.

Well, that video clears everything up. Pam and Robert are not cavorting with fascists, and Killgore, you're the mastermind behind everything. Blimey, good show.

768 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:13am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

Pam at Altlas Shrugs has been making parody videos of LGF by adding subtitles to a clip of Hitler yelling at his generals.

Tres originale. Very creative of her. The last original thing she did was smearing her feces on the wall.

769 midwestgak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:21am

re: #758 HoosierHoops

Good morning Gak! You doing alright?

Yes, thanks. Enjoying the sunshine this morning and a comfortable 46 degrees.

770 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:23am

re: #726 opnion

Avanti, I wonder how much of the public that are so approving of Obama can tell you who the Vice President is , or could name one Supreme Court Justice.
People are busy, they hear MSM sound bites & buy in.

I hear that argument often from both the right and left. How could the voters pick Bush or Obama, the voters must be stupid. Now it's why does the country approve of Obamba when we are so clearly fucked ?
I can't speculate on why Obama is so popular, blame it on dumb voters or the MSM if you like, but the country as a whole is not as gloomy as the right.

771 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:25am

re: #764 Sharmuta

It's pretty pointless. I'd watch them if they were funnier but she's done 4 or 5 of them now and they're all pretty much the same.

772 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:33am

re: #747 HoosierHoops

We had thunderstorms last night..Poor winston jumped into bed and huddled in fear..My little prince is a sissy! LOL

Lots of dogs hate thunderstorms - its the random bangs which upset them.
Big Dog was so scared, he always tried not just to sit on my lap but to hide under my jumper.
He weighted about 50 pounds ...

Nothing one can do about it, except to disregard the dog. Cuddling and consoling makes them more afraid the next time round.

773 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:41am

re: #763 redstateredneck

Now you're talking.

774 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:42am

I had seen the video of the plane in NYC, but I just now saw the footage of people running through a park (parking lot maybe?).
I'm no softy, but I really feel for those people. What a horrible feeling that must have been.

775 aggieann  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:12:57am

re: #699 yma o hyd

What do you think of this?

Is that one of them labradoodles the kids are so crazy about?

776 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:13:23am

re: #767 Walter L. Newton

...Killgore, you're the mastermind behind everything.

Ok, Maybe I'll watch this one later on. I'm not quite in the mood yet.

777 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:13:39am

Iraq ‘confirms’ detainee is top al-Qaeda leader

778 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:13:42am

Dear Michael Steele:

I heard you were RNC Chairman, but you've been kind of quiet lately. I think you should book yourself on the cable news networks and start holding the Prez accountable for his mistakes.

Start out by asking people in New York if it seems like the present administration has forgotten 911? Because that ham handed blunder yesterday leaves them wide open to that charge.

All NY'ers should be asking themselves if they want an administration that is more interested in Manhattan as a photo op instead of the safety of the millions of people who live there.

Chairman Steele ... please speak up

779 JacksonTn  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:13:54am

re: #770 avanti

I hear that argument often from both the right and left. How could the voters pick Bush or Obama, the voters must be stupid. Now it's why does the country approve of Obamba when we are so clearly fucked ?
I can't speculate on why Obama is so popular, blame it on dumb voters or the MSM if you like, but the country as a whole is not as gloomy as the right.

Avanti ... there are no bigger whiners in the country than the "left" ... NONE! ... optimism is not something they "cling" to ... so don't start that crap here ...

780 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:13:58am

re: #756 reine.de.tout

Nah. I like seafood in my gumbo and smoked meat in the jambalaya.

781 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:14:03am

re: #744 NJDhockeyfan

There's this game company called Running With Scissors that made the Postal Series. Blatantly-offensive good fun, IIRC one option for the multiplayer team deathmatches featured Priests vs. Al-Qaeda.

782 Afrocity  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:14:26am

Hello, I just wanted everyone to know that The New Agenda, a bipartisan group for women published one of my blog posts.

[Link: thenewagenda.net...]

Thanks to IronFist, Ward Cleaver, Sharmutra,Bella Mags, Uber,Fat Bastard, Real West,Occasional reader, Furry Jeans and other friends at LGF for giving me the courage to speak my mind and find my strength as a conservative.

783 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:14:47am

re: #762 calcajun

Yeah. Right before slaughtering, gutting, scraping smoking and eating.

Only if she's the last pig on the planet, you are the last survivor, and there is nothing else to eat!

784 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:14:56am

#533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

just about half the country can see where we're headed. Did you feel this way when the left was practically suicidal with BDS for eight long years? Talk about the drum beat of doom and gloom.

785 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:09am

re: #782 Afrocity
Congrats, girl!

786 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:11am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

That gag has been over worked quite enough. It is particularly ironic that Pamela Geller is doing it, given that she insists on playing Eva Braun to the European Neo-Nazis.

Note to Pam: Who is hanging out with racists, Fascists and Neo-Nazis? Check one of the dozens of mirrors that adorn your apartment for the answer.

787 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:17am

re: #771 Killgore Trout

It's pretty pointless. I'd watch them if they were funnier but she's done 4 or 5 of them now and they're all pretty much the same.

It seems to me she's had to degrade herself further by keeping a certain aspect of her readership happy by promoting Charles hate more than promoting "counter-jihad" or kookspiracies. There's obviously nothing more important to do.

788 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:25am

re: #781 laZardo

There's this game company called Running With Scissors that made the Postal Series. Blatantly-offensive good fun, IIRC one option for the multiplayer team deathmatches featured Priests vs. Al-Qaeda.

I have the old DOS game 'Redneck Rampage'. I had alot of fun with that one. I wish they would bring that one back.

789 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:30am

re: #778 _RememberTonyC

Dear Michael Steele:

I heard you were RNC Chairman, but you've been kind of quiet lately. I think you should book yourself on the cable news networks and start holding the Prez accountable for his mistakes.

Start out by asking people in New York if it seems like the present administration has forgotten 911? Because that ham handed blunder yesterday leaves them wide open to that charge.

All NY'ers should be asking themselves if they want an administration that is more interested in Manhattan as a photo op instead of the safety of the millions of people who live there.

Chairman Steele ... please speak up


Godd letter, but thats not really the RNC chairmans job. We need Senators and Congressmen (as well as those contemplating runs) to be all over the media

790 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:30am

re: #746 kansas

So if the economy gets worse, the Great O just couldn't save it from the evil Republicans. If it gets better, he did? What a load. 100 days seems like 4 years. Is this over yet?

Nope, if the economy tanks, Obama will get the blame and the GOP will look good again. I give him 12-18 months.

791 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:48am

re: #776 Killgore Trout

Ok, Maybe I'll watch this one later on. I'm not quite in the mood yet.

I'm pissed. Why can't I get some blog time. Hell, I've got that juicy Spencer email. I've posted it all over LGF. It's been clipped and pasted to other blogs, but NO... Robert and Pam just ignore me.

What am I, chopped liver?

792 funky chicken  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:49am

re: #562 Occasional Reader

I'd always thought that the whole idea was to protect against those globs of mucus, in fact, which tend to be where the virii are lodged. The flu virus is unlikely just going to be free-floating around in the air, all by its lonesome.

Yep, they can block the droplets that carry the virus.

And they even provide a partial barrier to individual virus particles, of course. If you've ever seen woven fabric under a microscope, there are the solid threads and the open spaces. If the particle hits a thread, it's blocked.

793 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:15:57am

re: #737 HoosierHoops

Hi OR! I'm hanging out at home while workers put in new flooring...Dirty job


Mike Rowe helping out?

794 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:16:07am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

I quite preferred the Microsoft version.

/avid videogamer mode off

795 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:16:18am

re: #783 yma o hyd

Well, I am probably the only guy on the planet who thought "Babe" and "Charlotte's Web" had unhappy endings.///

796 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:16:19am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

Pam at Altlas Shrugs has been making parody videos of LGF by adding subtitles to a clip of Hitler yelling at his generals.

It's really rather childish and silly for her, IMHO, considering that she is palling around with fascists while we try to expose them for what they are. The real bad thing about those videos is that the counterfeit site (they love you there, Killgore/) also posts them right after they're made. Then the LGF Watch loon seems to beat off to them.

797 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:16:29am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

Pam at Altlas Shrugs has been making parody videos of LGF by adding subtitles to a clip of Hitler yelling at his generals.

You didn't appreciate your starring roll?

/;-P

798 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:16:48am

re: #791 Walter L. Newton

Chopped "ham" from what I hear...

799 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:17:17am

re: #770 avanti

I hear that argument often from both the right and left. How could the voters pick Bush or Obama, the voters must be stupid. Now it's why does the country approve of Obamba when we are so clearly fucked ?
I can't speculate on why Obama is so popular, blame it on dumb voters or the MSM if you like, but the country as a whole is not as gloomy as the right.

* * * * * *
What's not to like, if you're always looking for freebies?

"Free" healthcare, housing, jobs for everyone, college for everyone, cradle to grave "benefits" only a Nanny State can promise--plus the lame will walk, the blind will see, the world will sing in perfect harmony.

800 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:17:19am

re: #798 Lincolntf

Chopped BIG "ham" from what I hear...


well ,,,,,,,,

801 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:17:24am

re: #779 JacksonTn

Avanti ... there are no bigger whiners in the country than the "left" ... NONE! ... optimism is not something they "cling" to ... so don't start that crap here ...

I can't speak for the left, I'm getting down dinged for not whining, but yes, both side do whine.

802 haakondahl  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:17:28am

re: #699 yma o hyd

What do you think of this?

Sarah Jessica Parker. Look at the Manolo Blahnik Stilettos.

803 KenJen  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:17:37am

re: #778 _RememberTonyC


Rudy would be all over this if he were RNC chair.

804 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:17:59am

re: #782 Afrocity

Hello, I just wanted everyone to know that The New Agenda, a bipartisan group for women published one of my blog posts.

[Link: thenewagenda.net...]

Thanks to IronFist, Ward Cleaver, Sharmutra,Bella Mags, Uber,Fat Bastard, Real West,Occasional reader, Furry Jeans and other friends at LGF for giving me the courage to speak my mind and find my strength as a conservative.

congrads Afrocity..You have been very brave and forthcoming on your blog

805 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:09am

re: #775 aggieann

Sorry, no!
This is a Labradoodle - and I think PETA wouldn't like it if someone were to breed a Labradoodlepig ...

806 redstateredneck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:16am

Gotta run and earn my living by the sweat of my brow (for a little while, anyway).
BBL

807 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:23am

re: #671 realwest

" most of the country is seeing the economy improve"
Really? Must not be all those folks who are still unemployed or the folks at GM and Chrysler, or the banks that want to repay the TARP money but that genius Geithner (who couldn't use TurboTax without screwing it up) won't let them re-pay it, or those folks wondering how come Obama hasn't appointed a Surgeon General, a new head of the CDC (and thus had 19 critical jobs at CDC remain vacant) or can't get anyone to take jobs at the Treasury Department or...........well, y'all get the idea.

The banks are in a position to repay TARP precisely because the economy is improving. The government doesn't want them to because they'd lose control over the banking industry. GM and the automakers were a mess before, and the bailouts haven't fixed them. It's delayed the inevitable bankruptcy, and the Obama Administration is trying to fix the reorganization so that the unions benefit, while shareholders get screwed royally.

The other failings of the Administration do not directly affect the economy and that the lack of a Surgeon General (he nominated Gupta, but Gupta withdrew from consideration) or other officials only goes to show that the Administration is continuing to be just as inept now as they were when everyone here was warning that these folks were incompetent, untested, and lacked judgment. On those points, nothing has changed, but the economy chugs along regardless of this Administration.

Improved housing figures from many parts of the country also attest to the improving economy. Most of the foreclosures and housing woes are confined to just four states, and that situation will continue for some time because of excessive supply and low demand.

808 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:28am

re: #786 Kenneth

That gag has been over worked quite enough. It is particularly ironic that Pamela Geller is doing it, given that she insists on playing Eva Braun to the European Neo-Nazis.

Note to Pam: Who is hanging out with racists, Fascists and Neo-Nazis? Check one of the dozens of mirrors that adorn your apartment for the answer.

OH- come on! Charles as hitler videos obviously stops islamization in it's tracks. It's clearly highly effective. Look- they're all packing it in right now as we type.

809 Lincolntf  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:30am

Obama called the flyover a mistake. Said he found out about it in the media (I think that's what the reporter said).
The apology tour rolls on...

810 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:31am

ALERT
Pres. Obama calls plane flyover in NYC "A mistake" per fox news

811 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:40am

re: #787 Sharmuta

It seems to me she's had to degrade herself further by keeping a certain aspect of her readership happy by promoting Charles hate more than promoting "counter-jihad" or kookspiracies. There's obviously nothing more important to do.

I have no problem with Pam or Robert posting retorts and trying to support their position. What is interesting is they have nothing available to support their position, so they have to resort to vague misleading essays or badly executed comedy.

Pam, get a comedy writer, because your not one.

812 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:43am

re: #772 yma o hyd

Lots of dogs hate thunderstorms - its the random bangs which upset them.
Big Dog was so scared, he always tried not just to sit on my lap but to hide under my jumper.
He weighted about 50 pounds ...

Nothing one can do about it, except to disregard the dog. Cuddling and consoling makes them more afraid the next time round.

We have a 55 lb standard poodle that insists on getting pet by me when there is a thunderstorm.

813 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #803 KenJen

Rudy would be all over this if he were RNC chair.

Rudy SHOULD be all over it as former mayor and a NYC resident. Again, it's not the RNC chairmans job.

814 aggieann  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:19:12am

re: #805 yma o hyd

Sorry, no!
This is a Labradoodle - and I think PETA wouldn't like it if someone were to breed a Labradoodlepig ...

I know. I was just kidding.

815 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:19:19am

re: #789 sattv4u2

Godd letter, but thats not really the RNC chairmans job. We need Senators and Congressmen (as well as those contemplating runs) to be all over the media


normally, i'd agree with you. but Steele is different because of the Obama/Steele implications. One thing Steele can't credibly accused of is racism. So either he shows some leadership, or the next election might be won before the repubs realize it.

816 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:19:36am

re: #782 Afrocity

Hello, I just wanted everyone to know that The New Agenda, a bipartisan group for women published one of my blog posts.

[Link: thenewagenda.net...]

Thanks to IronFist, Ward Cleaver, Sharmutra,Bella Mags, Uber,Fat Bastard, Real West,Occasional reader, Furry Jeans and other friends at LGF for giving me the courage to speak my mind and find my strength as a conservative.

Way to go!

Good stuff in the article!

817 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:19:45am

re: #782 Afrocity

Congrats!
Well done!
{Afrocity}

818 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:19:52am

re: #770 avanti

I hear that argument often from both the right and left. How could the voters pick Bush or Obama, the voters must be stupid.

Quite true: political opinions are not reflective of a person's level of intelligence. There are smart, average and dull people in any party. Political opinions do reflect a person's values and psychology. Obama won the election by appealing to liberal values and projecting a charismatic personality. Unfortunately, neither of those qualities will provide effective solutions to the challenges the country faces.

819 Ojoe  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:20:10am

Cool Towercam.

820 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:20:31am

re: #782 Afrocity

Hello, I just wanted everyone to know that The New Agenda, a bipartisan group for women published one of my blog posts.

[Link: thenewagenda.net...]

Thanks to IronFist, Ward Cleaver, Sharmutra,Bella Mags, Uber,Fat Bastard, Real West,Occasional reader, Furry Jeans and other friends at LGF for giving me the courage to speak my mind and find my strength as a conservative.

Glad to hear it. How are things going for you otherwise?

821 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:20:35am

re: #778 _RememberTonyC

Dear Michael Steele:

I heard you were RNC Chairman, but you've been kind of quiet lately. I think you should book yourself on the cable news networks and start holding the Prez accountable for his mistakes.

Start out by asking people in New York if it seems like the present administration has forgotten 911? Because that ham handed blunder yesterday leaves them wide open to that charge.

All NY'ers should be asking themselves if they want an administration that is more interested in Manhattan as a photo op instead of the safety of the millions of people who live there.

Chairman Steele ... please speak up

* * * *
Steele's job is to RAISE MONEY for other GOP candidates.
He sends emails to people if you want to hear from him, but Steele wants your financial support.

Steele's job is NOT to respond to Pres. Obama's every action, but to USE Pres. Obama's gaffes to RAISE MONEY for GOP candidates.

822 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:20:39am

re: #809 Lincolntf

Obama called the flyover a mistake. Said he found out about it in the media (I think that's what the reporter said).
The apology tour rolls on...

Yep, as was predicted. I like the fact he apologizes when there is a foul up, but that's just me.

823 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:20:53am
824 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:21:00am

re: #790 avanti

Nope, if the economy tanks, Obama will get the blame and the GOP will look good again. I give him 12-18 months.

Obama will get some blame, but the GOP had better clean up it's act if it ever want to look good again.

825 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:21:11am

re: #819 Ojoe

Cool Towercam.

I don't always ding you for TowerCam, but I do want to say that I usually enjoy it. Thanks for posting them.

826 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:21:18am

re: #803 KenJen

Rudy would be all over this if he were RNC chair.


he should still be all over it ...

827 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:21:24am

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

Pam, get a comedy writer, because your not one.

Pam doesn't seem to do comedy well. However, her blog is a comedy (of errors).

828 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:21:45am

re: #801 avanti

In politics, perception is reality. It was never shown by the MSM that the left whined. Now, the right is being shown as the biggest whiners and this is not true. This is what comes from the right now being able to control the message.

829 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:22:25am

re: #782 Afrocity

Sarah Palin, unfortunately, is currently busy slaying demons and suplexing dragons at the moment to muddy herself with plain ol' politics.

Youtube Video

/ C:

830 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #801 avanti

I can't speak for the left, I'm getting down dinged for not whining, but yes, both side do whine.

Avanti, no one here was whining. We were talking about Obama's poor judgment and bad actions. That's not whining.

831 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:22:30am

re: #810 alegrias

ALERT
Pres. Obama calls plane flyover in NYC "A mistake" per fox news

Yeah, he's throwing the WH military liason under the bus.

832 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:22:36am

re: #810 alegrias

ALERT
Pres. Obama calls plane flyover in NYC "A mistake" per fox news

That little "mistake" demonstrated for all the world just how vulnerable Manhattan is to enemy attack today. Evacuation started yesterday.

833 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:22:58am

re: #823 buzzsawmonkey

You forgot
We have a president who wants to appease our enemies while insulting our allies.
We have a president who is letting our enemies get nuclear weapons.
We have a president who, by weakening the country, is making us more likely to get attacked.

834 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:23:09am

re: #811 Walter L. Newton

I have no problem with Pam or Robert posting retorts and trying to support their position. What is interesting is they have nothing available to support their position, so they have to resort to vague misleading essays or badly executed comedy.

Pam, get a comedy writer, because your not one.

I agree- they can post whatever they'd like, and it is very telling they've got nothing but crap. I just find it the height of hypocrisy to tell folks your mission is to counter jihad, and this is what you spend your time doing- making lame videos. Pathetic.

835 kansas  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:23:09am

re: #822 avanti

Yep, as was predicted. I like the fact he apologizes when there is a foul up, but that's just me.

How about apologizing for not restricting flights from the epicenter of an outbreak of influenza?

836 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:23:45am

re: #822 avanti

Yep, as was predicted. I like the fact he apologizes when there is a foul up, but that's just me.

It was a major gaffe and someone deserves to be fired for something so stupid. Even if the message had gone out and all the right authorities been alerted, many people still would have been spooked. It was a bad idea to begin with.

837 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:24:04am

re: #812 Kosh's Shadow

We have a 55 lb standard poodle that insists on getting pet by me when there is a thunderstorm.

Sounds familiar!
I think its the really clever dogs who get freaked out by thunderstorms, because they cannot smell where its coming from, its too random, and they don't know if they should defend the place against that.

For many other dogs, after the first time, its just another noise ...

838 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:24:13am

re: #528 alegrias

Morning,

What is this Senate "reconciliation" tactic that lets democrats push their "reform" of health care with ONLY 51 votes? (Simple majority)

Ramming Obama's plan through Senate, House & acted on without real debate, bipartisanship, or input from ANY Republicans?

"We WON" on Steroids. Strong Man Fast Tracking his goal of nationalization of your choices, without objection allowed!

Open wide and say Ahhhhh Bend over and say, "Here it comes again!".

FTFY.

839 rightside  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:24:37am

BBL, have a great day!

840 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:24:39am

re: #818 Kenneth

Quite true: political opinions are not reflective of a person's level of intelligence. There are smart, average and dull people in any party. Political opinions do reflect a person's values and psychology. Obama won the election by appealing to liberal values and projecting a charismatic personality. Unfortunately, neither of those qualities will provide effective solutions to the challenges the country faces.

I agree with the bulk of your post also. The fact that he's pursuing the liberal agenda he campaigned on will naturally upset conservatives. We don't yet know if he can be effective to solving the countries problems.

841 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:24:53am

re: #814 aggieann

I know. I was just kidding.

Sorry - I'm often quite dense when it comes to getting a joke!

842 quickjustice  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:25:18am

Mel Gibson is a Democrat who is best friends with Michael Moore, and loved Farenheit 911, which he offered to back financially.

843 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:25:22am

re: #822 avanti

Also, he is now saying he never knew of it until it happened. THAT is a problem.

844 lawhawk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:25:29am

re: #832 UncleRancher

Actually, a slight silver lining in all this: it goes to show that the public is far more aware of their surroundings now than they were then. They're not going to wait for the government to make announcements; they're going to evacuate on their own.

845 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:25:58am

re: #43 Killian Bundy

China Faces a Grad Glut After Boom at Colleges


/wait until he tries to find female companionship in China

You aint' kidding. That's a recipe for war.

846 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:26:10am

re: #840 avanti

I agree with the bulk of your post also. The fact that he's pursuing the liberal agenda he campaigned on will naturally upset conservatives. We don't yet know if he can be effective to solving the countries problems.

How can you believe a liberal agenda could help things?!

847 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:26:10am

re: #836 calcajun

It was a major gaffe and someone deserves to be fired for something so stupid. Even if the message had gone out and all the right authorities been alerted, many people still would have been spooked. It was a bad idea to begin with.

Ya know I don't like the guy, but I don't think you can pin this on the President. This is almost under his pay grade. And I am sorry people in Manhattan freaked out, but they will get over it.

848 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:26:17am

re: #808 Sharmuta

OH- come on! Charles as hitler videos obviously stops islamization in it's tracks. It's clearly highly effective. Look- they're all packing it in right now as we type.

It's working ... I checked the local Craigslist and found these ads:

FOR SALE: Unused bomb vest. Perfect for those weekend jihad getaways. Form-flattering tailoring great for guys or girls. Call M. @ [redacted]

FIRE SALE: Literally. We have hundreds of incendiary devices in surplus. E-mail M. @ [redacted].

VIDEO EQUIPMENT FOR LEASE: Perfect for threatening messages to infidels. See our website at [Link: www.alohasnackbarrentals.com!...]

SWINE FLU GOT YOU DOWN? Our biohazard products are THE BEST Iranian quality. Why settle for Mexican imitations? Phone [redacted] and arrange a clandestine meeting TODAY!

849 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:26:26am

I have a really stupid sounding question in light of the Pamela videos.
Why do these twits refer to Charles as a "Nancy"? I've seen the term used by some of the banned nitwits, and I am curious.

850 Kozak  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:26:58am

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

851 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:26:59am

re: #836 calcajun

It was a major gaffe and someone deserves to be fired for something so stupid. Even if the message had gone out and all the right authorities been alerted, many people still would have been spooked. It was a bad idea to begin with.

No disagreement there.

852 Sharmuta  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:27:22am

re: #848 OldLineTexan

LMAO!

853 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:27:43am

re: #837 yma o hyd

Sounds familiar!
I think its the really clever dogs who get freaked out by thunderstorms, because they cannot smell where its coming from, its too random, and they don't know if they should defend the place against that.

For many other dogs, after the first time, its just another noise ...

I think you're right. This is the alpha, and he takes on the job of protecting the pack and the den. Since he doesn't know what to do for a thunderstorm, he comes to the one he knows to outrank him to get assurance that someone is protecting the place.
(He's also frightened of fireworks and coyotes; one howled when he was outside, and he ran to the door and whimpered.)

854 irish rose  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:27:53am

Well, I'm back for a while... the car is still not done and may not be done today :(

I'm seeing in my alerts that someone is going around on the internet, impersonating Charles and making vague threats to sue people and shut down websites.

Very disturbing.

855 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:27:56am

782 Afrocity

Enjoyed your piece at The New Agenda. Congratulations!

856 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:28:08am

re: #707 avanti Don't be so eager for everyone over $250k (individuals and businesses) to get a tax hike. You may quickly find out that the easiest way to make up the lost revenue is to reduce you from their staff.

857 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:28:15am

re: #842 quickjustice

Mel Gibson is a Democrat who is best friends with Michael Moore, and loved Farenheit 911, which he offered to back financially.

Right - now I'm definitely not going to marry him if he were the last man on the planet, I'd take some serious anti-marrying measures against him!

858 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:28:38am

re: #847 Nevergiveup

Yes--he should have been briefed-a fact he now acknowledges did not happen. It was a true "tin ear" moment.

859 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:29:01am

re: #849 Honorary Yooper

I have a really stupid sounding question in light of the Pamela videos.
Why do these twits refer to Charles as a "Nancy"? I've seen the term used by some of the banned nitwits, and I am curious.

It's a silly put down..I guess they got tired of typing Chuckie..
If you hit a golf ball short on the course you are called nancy..

860 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:29:09am

re: #782 Afrocity

Hello, I just wanted everyone to know that The New Agenda, a bipartisan group for women published one of my blog posts.

[Link: thenewagenda.net...]

Thanks to IronFist, Ward Cleaver, Sharmutra,Bella Mags, Uber,Fat Bastard, Real West,Occasional reader, Furry Jeans and other friends at LGF for giving me the courage to speak my mind and find my strength as a conservative.

* * * *
Congratulations! Thank you for re-examining the abominable trashing of Gov. Palin and her family by both supposed supporters and democrats.

One minor correction: look up sitzpinklers, which is the term I think you meant about RINOs~who SIT instead of STAND in the men's room.

861 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:29:30am

off to salt mines! Later.

862 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:30:07am

re: #846 Dark_Falcon

How can you believe a liberal agenda could help things?!

Because I've never thought of the terms liberal or conservative as negative terms, we need both forms of thought. We can't stand still, nor rush headlong into the abyss.

863 quickjustice  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:30:13am

re: #822 avanti

One thing about George Bush that I didn't like was his failure to hold anyone accountable for 9/11. Not a single firing. Not a single reprimand.

There was only one serious injury from the flyover incident in NYC yesterday, a lady who fell down a staircase as she was fleeing. And I don't know if that guy with the bad heart is OK. But an apology is all that's required for such stupidity? I'd say a termination of employment is in order.

Does the U.S. government have immunity from civil suit when people are injured under these circumstances?

864 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:31:19am

re: #854 irish rose

Sorry about the car. If you were in Houston, you could use your boat instead today.

/

865 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:31:45am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Good morning lizards!
How is everyone today?

Good morning, Hoopster.

866 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:31:49am

re: #849 Honorary Yooper

I have a really stupid sounding question in light of the Pamela videos.
Why do these twits refer to Charles as a "Nancy"? I've seen the term used by some of the banned nitwits, and I am curious.

In some minds, anyone who doesn't agree with a total wipeout of something (i.e. "ALL Muslims must be deported because SOME muslims did 9/11) is considered "weak" on the issue,,, or girlish ,, i.e. Nancy

867 Ojoe  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:31:57am

re: #825 Sharmuta

You are welcome. The Towercam is my default web browser opener. So I post it when it is cool. Plus I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley so I use the Towercam to spy on my old stomping grounds.

BBL

868 irongrampa  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:32:00am

I call bullshit. Is anyone REALLY going to try saying that flying a 747 chased by a fighter over New York is a fine idea for a photo update? Don't try telling me SOMEBODY in the chain didn't scream bloody nurder about the efficacy.

All I see here is another example of sheer arrogance, to go along with all the others

But we mustn't wish him to fail.

*spit*

869 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:32:22am

re: #853 Kosh's Shadow

I think you're right. This is the alpha, and he takes on the job of protecting the pack and the den. Since he doesn't know what to do for a thunderstorm, he comes to the one he knows to outrank him to get assurance that someone is protecting the place.
(He's also frightened of fireworks and coyotes; one howled when he was outside, and he ran to the door and whimpered.)


Thats exacly what I thought! Good to know that dogs' minds work the same on both continents.

Don't have coyotes here - but fireworks: oh yea!
Freaked the Big Dog out totally.
At least one can take preventive measures because one knows when they'll take place.
A lot of pasta, with whatever they like or is good for them (tuna, oil) mixed in, one hour before the fireworks start, is brilliant. It makes them sleepy and relaxed, and they stop worrying.

870 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:32:28am

re: #856 DaddyG

Don't be so eager for everyone over $250k (individuals and businesses) to get a tax hike. You may quickly find out that the easiest way to make up the lost revenue is to reduce you from their staff.

Or at least reduce the size of my White House office. :)

871 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:32:34am

re: #858 calcajun

Yes--he should have been briefed-a fact he now acknowledges did not happen. It was a true "tin ear" moment.

Sure, but considering all the ways he is hurting our country, this is almost comic relief. I'd laugh if I wasn't always crying so much over the damage he is doing.

872 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:32:50am

re: #853 Kosh's Shadow

he comes to the one he knows to outrank him to get assurance that someone is protecting the place.

Alternate explanation; he assumes that he outranks you, and that you're the one who need assurance...

873 Digital Display  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:32:58am

re: #865 jorline

Good morning, Hoopster.

Hi Jorline! What's the lunch special today? I'm hungry

874 jcm  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:33:22am

re: #840 avanti

I agree with the bulk of your post also. The fact that he's pursuing the liberal agenda he campaigned on will naturally upset conservatives. We don't yet know if he can be effective to solving the countries problems.

Actually we do, lots of examples. FDR, LBJ, as well as other countries.

Taxation and spending don't solve an economic crises. Keynes was wrong.

875 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:33:37am

re: #803 KenJen

Rudy would be all over this if he were RNC chair.

* * * *
Rudy couldn't be RNC CHair, Rudy hardly raised any money for himself!
You need MONEY to run ads & win elections.

Sorry, Rudy's can run for Governor or Senator of NY, or keep making noise on TV or whatever he's doing while the GOP is recovering.

876 laZardo  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:33:50am

Heading to bed now.

Hoping that the world hasn't ended again as tomorrow approaches.

Cheers.

877 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:33:50am

re: #862 avanti

Because I've never thought of the terms liberal or conservative as negative terms, we need both forms of thought. We can't stand still, nor rush headlong into the abyss.

I would say trillions of dollars of debt would be the headlong into the abyss.

878 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:34:03am

re: #866 sattv4u2

Thanks. I wondered if it wasn't just that, but thought I'd ask anyway.

879 kansas  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:34:12am

re: #862 avanti

Because I've never thought of the terms liberal or conservative as negative terms, we need both forms of thought. We can't stand still, nor rush headlong into the abyss.

You mean abyss like this? [Link: blog.heritage.org...]

880 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:34:47am

re: #870 avanti

Or at least reduce the size of my White House office. :)

That is the one growth sector in our country right now. Federal bureaucracy. Ugh!

881 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:35:10am

re: #872 Occasional Reader

Alternate explanation; he assumes that he outranks you, and that you're the one who need assurance...

He pretty obviously is upset. You can tell by the pacing and the fact he can't sleep.

882 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:35:41am
883 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #877 MrSilverDragon

I would say trillions of dollars of debt would be the headlong into the abyss.

I will grant you that the light at the end of the tunnel could be a oncoming train, or a way out, we'll see in a few years.

884 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:36:17am

re: #815 _RememberTonyC

normally, i'd agree with you. but Steele is different because of the Obama/Steele implications. One thing Steele can't credibly accused of is racism. So either he shows some leadership, or the next election might be won before the repubs realize it.

* * * *
Your statement is just so wrong.

885 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:36:18am

re: #876 laZardo

Heading to bed now.

Hoping that the world hasn't ended again as tomorrow approaches.

Cheers.

Don't worry if everyone is raptured overnight you can always have your choice of new cars to go to work in tomorrow. /

886 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:36:36am

re: #849 Honorary Yooper

I have a really stupid sounding question in light of the Pamela videos.
Why do these twits refer to Charles as a "Nancy"? I've seen the term used by some of the banned nitwits, and I am curious.

"Nancy-boy" is a pretty old pejorative for a homosexual of effeminate male.

You see the level these people are at.

887 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:37:12am
888 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:37:12am

re: #840 avanti

I agree with the bulk of your post also. The fact that he's pursuing the liberal agenda he campaigned on will naturally upset conservatives. We don't yet know if he can be effective to solving the countries problems.

His oversold charisma did very little for him even among America's European allies. Obama is a fool if he thinks he can wink and charm his way to disarming North Korea or Iran, and they only laugh at his pretty speeches about peace, love and unicorns.

Guided by his liberal values, he declared his intention to close Gitmo, without even knowing what to do with the prisoners instead. His decision to release some of the CIA memos has only served to whet the appetites of his leftist base for a witch hunt, while undermining the ability of the CIA to defend Americans.

The more I watch Obama,. the more I am reminded of that classic cartoon, Bambi vs Godzilla.

Youtube Video
889 MacDuff  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:37:18am

re: #533 avanti

It never ceases to amaze me of the disconnect between some on the right and the rest of the country. The constant drum beat of doom and gloom would be a major concern if it was shared by the majority. From the stock market to foreign affairs, nothing but storm clouds.
I know the response will be that the rest of the country is drinking Kool-Aid, but for whatever reason, we have more hope for the future.

Sorry I don't share in your hope. I've been making payments on my taxes for years now and every year, I just put it on the tab. I have no doubt that will only increase during the current administration. As for the hope shown in "polls", that will quickly evaporate when Obama breaks it to the people that 5% of the population will be unable to pay of the massive debt that he's accumulating in our name.

This cult of personality masquerading as a presidency make me sicker by the minute. I have no faith in his judgment or his ability and have serious questions about his ideology and motivation. I do not believe he has the ability to handle a major crisis, and there are many that loom on the horizon. He's surrounded himself with buffoons, so even IF he had leadership ability and an innate compass to keep him on course (which I don't believe he has) he has no competence below him do do what's necessary.

"Disconnect" you say? The drumbeat of "doom and gloom" has no relationship to what "the majority" thinks; it's hard cold reality slapping you in the face. Conservatives seem to be the only adults in the room. Had we gone with "the majority", we would never have abolished slavery, women would not have the right to vote and there are a lot of very just causes, and wars, that have shaped history that simply would not have occurred. "Majority Rule" is simply a more genteel version of mob rule; that is why we have a republican for of government with, hopefully, leaders elected who will make the right choice. Do you actually see that bold, visionary leadership now? If you do, don't allow me to interrupt your delirium; you will be awakened soon enough and that awakening will be rude, indeed.

890 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:40:20am

re: #843 calcajun

Also, he is now saying he never knew of it until it happened. THAT is a problem.

I can't agree with that part. He has many department in his administration and I suspect he doesn't know the daily roster of tasks for each and every one of them.

This flyover and picture had nothing directly to do with him, so I wouldn't expect him to know it was taking place.

From what I have read, this is sort of grunt stuff, getting these pictures and updating website and having the picture available to press requests etc.

No, I would not expect or want Obama to be saddled with these sort of mundane tasks at all.

Don't agree with you.

891 Summersong  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:40:24am

Here's a national swine flu situation page I haven't seen before

[Link: www.vuetoo.com...]

892 J.S.  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:41:11am

Obama is addressing the FBI right now...It's surreal...People are cheering and applauding and someone fainted...this is the FBI? like they're all high school students at a pep rally? (i really can't figure out what's going on in America right now...) Obama: "We're always stronger when we act in concert..." (yeah, right -- that's America acting as a collectivity? since when exactly?)

893 quickjustice  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:42:55am

re: #890 Walter L. Newton

On the other hand, you'd expect Obama to order a review and discipline of the responsible employee on his White House staff, correct? Or is SNAFU the order of the day each day in the White House?

894 MacDuff  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:43:09am

re: #890 Walter L. Newton

I can't agree with that part. He has many department in his administration and I suspect he doesn't know the daily roster of tasks for each and every one of them.

This flyover and picture had nothing directly to do with him, so I wouldn't expect him to know it was taking place.

From what I have read, this is sort of grunt stuff, getting these pictures and updating website and having the picture available to press requests etc.

No, I would not expect or want Obama to be saddled with these sort of mundane tasks at all.

Don't agree with you.

Agreed. If he's spending time directing photo-shoots, he's a bigger fool than I thought.

895 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:43:11am

re: #889 MacDuff

Do you actually see that bold, visionary leadership now? If you do, don't allow me to interrupt your delirium; you will be awakened soon enough and that awakening will be rude, indeed.

Since I have to admit, I'm still pretty much happy with BHO's leadership, I'll wait for the awakening on one side or the other we'll have by 2012. I made wrong choices in the past, so I can't claim to be correct this time either.

896 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:43:13am

re: #860 alegrias

* * * *
Congratulations! Thank you for re-examining the abominable trashing of Gov. Palin and her family by both supposed supporters and democrats.

One minor correction: look up sitzpinklers, which is the term I think you meant about RINOs~who SIT instead of STAND in the men's room.

I doff my cap to Sarah Palin for shunning the little scumbag who knocked up her daughter right under her own roof.

897 Buck  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:44:01am

re: #760 Killgore Trout

Pam at Altlas Shrugs has been making parody videos of LGF by adding subtitles to a clip of Hitler yelling at his generals.

Family guy did it better.....

898 WriterMom  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:44:39am

Shalom, y'all.

899 jorline  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:45:25am

re: #873 HoosierHoops

Hi Jorline! What's the lunch special today? I'm hungry

Killer Patty Melt with a lot of grilled onions.

900 WriterMom  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:48:02am

re: #895 avanti

I'm still pretty much happy with BHO's leadership

Of course you are.

901 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:48:58am

re: #898 WriterMom

Yo wassup?

902 opnion  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:49:25am

re: #895 avanti

Since I have to admit, I'm still pretty much happy with BHO's leadership, I'll wait for the awakening on one side or the other we'll have by 2012. I made wrong choices in the past, so I can't claim to be correct this time either.

Avanti, I was replying to your previous post & got the spinning wheel of death. I am not implying that the American elctorate is stupid, merely uninformed.
Obama made happy talk with little substance & people bought in.

903 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:49:42am

re: #884 alegrias

* * * *
Your statement is just so wrong.

care to explain why?

904 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:50:24am

re: #895 avanti

Since I have to admit, I'm still pretty much happy with BHO's leadership...

I'll have what you're having then. They must be damn good meds.

905 quickjustice  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:52:24am

re: #895 avanti

I'm in no way an ally of the President's, but I have to defend you on this point. McCain lost largely because of the September surprise, and Paulson's mishandling of the economic crisis. The voters, who aren't political junkies, logically voted against the incumbents who brought this catastrophe upon the nation. It's a simple view, but a logical one if you're not sophisticated. If something goes seriously wrong on an incumbent's watch, blame the incumbent.

I don't blame the American people for electing Obama. I don't see how McCain could have weathered the perfect economic storm except by opposing the bailout proposed by his own GOP President, a dicey proposition at best.

Having said that, I disagree with Obama's current policies, but they are coherent. They represent a vision of an America that shrinks its military to a tiny fraction of its current size, and withdraws from the world back into a Fortress America. That's why the criticism of Obama is pointless. You're arguing from a standpoint (a robust U.S. military with a global outreach) that Obama doesn't accept as a premise.

906 avanti  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:52:33am

re: #902 opnion

Avanti, I was replying to your previous post & got the spinning wheel of death. I am not implying that the American elctorate is stupid, merely uninformed.
Obama made happy talk with little substance & people bought in.

I can't say if you are right or wrong, I was just addressing the difference in mood, right to left. I need to work on a Studebaker now before you guys kill my hope and change buzz. :)

907 alegrias  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 9:05:01am

re: #903 _RememberTonyC

care to explain why?

* * * *
Ex-Lieutenant Governor Steele is a conservative Catholic Republican.
He is not an elected politician right now, he is the chairman of the fundraising arm of the GOP.

The fact Mr. Steele happens to be black doesn't confer on him any special power to counter Pres. Obama's leftist policies.

The GOP lost, and Mr. Steele doesn't have equal stature to counter Pres. Obama.

It is uphill, my friend. We all have work to do to get back the microphone, get people listening and thinking about what's important to do right, to win future elections. (I have one in my city next week, for city council, and will try to elect GOP members including a black conservative.)

908 calcajun  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 9:05:31am

re: #890 Walter L. Newton

Gotta run to work, so we can revisit this later, but the idea of having one of the AF-1 fleet photographed over nat'l monuments is not new. But, the idea that you were going to have a 4-engine jumbo jet flying at low altitude over Manhattan with an F-16 escort should have cause a number of people to scratch their heads and think. And this one particular shot should have been run up the chain--out of basic common sense. His not knowing is not the problem; that some of his people chose not to tell him is. This is something that I saw during the campaign--his people have a bad tendency to engage in "groupthink" and do not solicit the opinions of anyone outside. It is a dangerous tendency.

909 MacDuff  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 9:15:25am

re: #895 avanti

Since I have to admit, I'm still pretty much happy with BHO's leadership, I'll wait for the awakening on one side or the other we'll have by 2012. I made wrong choices in the past, so I can't claim to be correct this time either.

Well good luck, and I say that in the spirit of goodwill. IF, in the end, your iealism is well-placed, that will bode well for all of us. I don't wish Obama ill, for that ill would impact poorly on our country; his failures will eventually be ours and it is WE who will have to pick up the pieces.

My doubts remain, as does your optimism. I guess only time will tell, and I suspect, rather fear, it won't take four years to reach some semblance of consensus. Regardless of the outcome, I will fight like hell for those things that I hold dear in an attempt to conserve our way of life and I will remain solidly with the loyal opposition because that's who I am and that's who I will always be.

910 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 9:37:07am

re: #906 avanti

I can't say if you are right or wrong, I was just addressing the difference in mood, right to left. I need to work on a Studebaker now before you guys kill my hope and change buzz. :)

Can you make a hybrid Studebaker so it will pass the upcoming carbon emission standards?
/

911 ladycatnip  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 9:37:40am

906 avanti

I can't say if you are right or wrong, I was just addressing the difference in mood, right to left. I need to work on a Studebaker now before you guys kill my hope and change buzz. :)

It's all about feelings, not substance. Opnion nailed it in his post # 902:

Avanti, I was replying to your previous post & got the spinning wheel of death. I am not implying that the American elctorate is stupid, merely uninformed.
Obama made happy talk with little substance & people bought in.

912 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 9:41:27am

re: #907 alegrias

The fact Mr. Steele happens to be black doesn't confer on him any special power to counter Pres. Obama's leftist policies.

The GOP lost, and Mr. Steele doesn't have equal stature to counter Pres. Obama.

thanks for the explanation and your excellent point. but let's be honest about why Mr Steele got his job. Of course, number one he is a quality individual whom I have heard and seen many times on TV. He is smart, articulate, and correct on many views. And he is African American. Part of his job has to be to get fellow African Americans into the Republican party. If he can peel off 15-20% (a tough job for sure), he helps the party in more ways than just raising money. But in order to do that job, he has to be seen and heard by those the party needs to recruit. And challenging the Prez seems to be part of that enormous chore.

My two cents ...

913 b00tdisk  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 10:15:32am

So, Arlen Specter has decided to jump the aisle. Thanks, Senator. Thanks a bunch. Enjoy your stay in the party that snuggles up to Klansmen, voted down the equal rights amendment, and pushed a good buddy of Bill Ayers onto the podium to get elected president.

The republican party is completely hosed. Done, stick a fork in, the whole nine yards. The Son of Heaven has voted 51% of the population to live off the largess of the rest of us 49%. It'll never swing back the other way.

Before anyone mutters anything about the '12 or '16 elections: how long was Mexico dominated by a socialist party? 60 years? 70 years?

Yeah.

Thanks for the "help" Senator Specter.

914 Empire1  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 12:27:39pm

re: #316 tokyobk

You're right. Sorry. It is preaching. But I can't help it! Forgive me in the name of those poor little piggies.

And am I wrong? Doesn't the idea of eating flesh become absolutely putrid after a year or so?

You are very wrong, at least in my case. I had to give up all animal products for about two years because of a couple of painful joints in my right toe and index finger. I spent the whole two years craving meat and feeling deprived. By the time I was able to eat meat again, I never wanted to see another vegetable that didn't have some kind of meat juice, or at least real butter, accompanying it!

And yes, I've butchered my own deer, ducks, and whatever else I can get hold of, if necessary.


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