Monsters! Monsters from the id!

Waters asks for release of allegations

No fan of Maxine Waters, but that doesn’t look like someone with something to hide. Now for Rangel—not so much.

Danger, Charles Johnson, Danger!

re: #2 BryanS

Waters asks for release of allegations

No fan of Maxine Waters, but that doesn’t look like someone with something to hide. Now for Rangel—not so much.

I dunno. Water’s is too self-righteous to admit any error. She could be guilty, and still act innocent, because she’d feel she had not done something wrong.

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

I dunno. Water’s is too self-righteous to admit any error. She could be guilty, and still act innocent, because she’d feel she had not done something wrong.

Possibly. But I assume she also has lawyers to consult/inform her whether she did in fact violate any rules. Or maybe the infraction is so minor that it’s better to get it out of the way before the election where speculation could make it seem much worse than it is.

“This is the worst kind of discrimination. The kind against me!” —Bender

:p

Why would anyone think this was a good idea?
[Link: www.lehighvalleylive.com…]

Kathryn Chapman took a trip to the annual Our Lady of Mount Carmel Big Time celebration last weekend, and she was shocked to see a shooting game with President Barack Obama as the target.

I AM MONITORED TO RESPOND TO THE NAME “ROBBY.”

Also on Politico…

Graham: 14th Amendment outdated

I don’t get this coming from Graham. I suppose it could just be pandering. But it’s not like his position is all that well received by his party. I mean, the idea of amending the constitution is an extreme reaction to an immigration problem.

example commentary on the right less than enthusiastic about Graham’s recent conversion:

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com…]

re: #7 webevintage

Why would anyone think this was a good idea?
[Link: www.lehighvalleylive.com…]

Image: cyborg-pirate-ninja-jesus.jpg

“Let’s face it, comedy’s a dead art form. Tragedy, now that’s funny.” —Bender

///:p

re: #10 Varek Raith

Image: cyborg-pirate-ninja-jesus.jpg

“Problem Loading Page”

Bummer, I was so looking forward to seeing a Cybor-Pirate-Ninja-Jesus. They have only been spotted in the wild on a handful of occasions, and even then only by the most intrepid of adventurers.

re: #10 Varek Raith

Image: cyborg-pirate-ninja-jesus.jpg

Won’t load for me…but was it something like this;

Image: 2mr5dt1.jpg

or maybe…

Image: zoidberg-jesus_thumbnail.jpg

or perhaps even…

Image: raptor-jesus-no-where-in-the-bible-.jpg

Just wondering…

re: #12 Slumbering Behemoth

“Problem Loading Page”

Bummer, I was so looking forward to seeing a Cybor-Pirate-Ninja-Jesus. They have only been spotted in the wild on a handful of occasions, and even then only by the most intrepid of adventurers.

Image: cyborg_pirate_ninja_jesus1.jpg

re: #9 BryanS

Also on Politico…

Graham: 14th Amendment outdated

I don’t get this coming from Graham. I suppose it could just be pandering. But it’s not like his position is all that well received by his party. I mean, the idea of amending the constitution is an extreme reaction to an immigration problem.

example commentary on the right less than enthusiastic about Graham’s recent conversion:

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com…]

I agree. But, the good news of it is that they accept that there is no end run around the 14th Amendment. But to change it strikes me as premature, I agree. We should try other enforcement mechanisms long before something that radical is considered.

Image: large_terminator-born-to-run-1.jpg
And I want your perfect Barby Doll lips
And I want your perfect Barby Doll eyes
Slip my fingers down your Barbie Doll skirt
Up & down your spandex ass…

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

I agree. But, the good news of it is that they accept that there is no end run around the 14th Amendment. But to change it strikes me as premature, I agree. We should try other enforcement mechanisms long before something that radical is considered.

I don’t see why we don’t encourage more LEGAL immigration. More people living here—more housing needs.

Mexico doesn’t really want more legal immigration either. They want migrant workers who send their earnings back to Mexico.

But this would be much more like the real Jesus…but very few want to hear it. :(

Image: jesus_thumbnail.jpg

re: #14 Varek Raith

Heh. Should read “No mercy. No salvation.”

Alternate caption:

“He paid for your sins with His life. Now He’s come back to collect.”

re: #17 BryanS

I don’t see why we don’t encourage more LEGAL immigration. More people living here—more housing needs.

Mexico doesn’t really want more legal immigration either. They want migrant workers who send their earnings back to Mexico.

Right now we’re still in recession. We don’t need immigrants right now. After we get into recovery and the unemployment rate is down 2 percentage points, then we can talk about letting more immigrants in. Until then, no.

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Right now we’re still in recession. We don’t need immigrants right now. After we get into recovery and the unemployment rate is down 2 percentage points, then we can talk about letting more immigrants in. Until then, no.

If we kick a million people out of the country, we lose a million people’s worth of economic activity—we decrease housing demand by a million, less people buying other goods by a million.

Robby of course, being a robot, could analyze without being distracted by talk. Robby isn’t hardwired to have to listen.

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Right now we’re still in recession. We don’t need immigrants right now. After we get into recovery and the unemployment rate is down 2 percentage points, then we can talk about letting more immigrants in. Until then, no.

Your forgetting a big peice of the much bigger picture. If we legalized the approx. 24 million illegals who are already here and working and gave them their own Social Security numbers, and added about half again that many to their ranks all paying into to Social Security and Medicare/caid the fiscal deficit on those programs would be gone. Really, $92 Trillion in deficit spending, gone just like that…

re: #23 ausador

Your forgetting a big peice of the much bigger picture. If we legalized the approx. 24 million illegals who are already here and working and gave them their own Social Security numbers, and added about half again that many to their ranks all paying into to Social Security and Medicare/caid the fiscal deficit on those programs would be gone. Really, $92 Trillion in deficit spending, gone just like that…

And they will be more likely to become acculturated. I’m a fan of the melting pot ideal. Knowing you’re illegal means you are more likely to keep one foot planted in the other country.

re: #21 BryanS

If we kick a million people out of the country, we lose a million people’s worth of economic activity—we decrease housing demand by a million, less people buying other goods by a million.

We also get rid of a million people’s worth of excess spending. We no longer have to pay for their health care, nor any other benefits. When we are talking about illegals, the savings outweigh the costs.

re: #13 ausador

Won’t load for me…but was it something like this;

Image: 2mr5dt1.jpg

Oh God, that brings back memories. Back in the early 00s, there used to be this site called “Satan Trek,” where you had some evangelical nutbar arguing that Star Trek was all kinds of blasphemy and satanism. And I don’t mean just a few rambling paragraphs, I mean this guy had fleshed out an entire website, had edited a few Trek pictures to highlight the “satanic” sides of them, and the whole nine.

Site was there for a few years, then just one day disappeared into the ether. No cache, no screenshots, nothing. Like it just sailed into the Bermuda Triangle and never came out the other side.

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

When we are talking about illegals, the savings outweigh the costs.

Well, that is your assertion. Can you prove it?

Do you think the majority of those who enter this country go to work (somehow, somewhere)? If so, are you claiming that their employers will be better off not having these people supply them labor?

re: #21 BryanS

If we kick a million people out of the country, we lose a million people’s worth of economic activity—we decrease housing demand by a million, less people buying other goods by a million.

It’s more like 12 million. The argument is over whether the Democrats can admit, by refusing to enforce the law, another 12 million and thereby tip the demographics in their own favor.

Our legal immigrants are a great bunch. We should open the gates wider and accept more of the sort we now get. Our illegal immigrants are not nearly so talented on average, because they’ve not been screened and selected for talent.

Going on past form, there is no reason to expect anything but more of the same. Our own working poor have trouble enough finding jobs in this economy without bringing in more competition for low-skill jobs.

Those who face competition for high-skill jobs from skilled immigrants are a different story. Yes, that hurts their chances, if you look only at direct effects. But the indirect effect of high-skill immigration is to improve the chances that the U.S. can lead the world in that industry. When we lead, there are lots of extra jobs as a result. Win-win situation in the long run.

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

We also get rid of a million people’s worth of excess spending. We no longer have to pay for their health care, nor any other benefits. When we are talking about illegals, the savings outweigh the costs.

True, there are costs. But if we went the other direction—say we encouraged an additional 3 million immigrants to come to this country legally. No doubt there is demand for that. These people have to live somewhere. It’s no secret that the turnaround in the economy will only happen when the housing market finally recovers.

I’m going to sign off for the night. I’m fading and need to sleep. Sleep well, folks.

re: #27 freetoken

Well, that is your assertion. Can you prove it?

Do you think the majority of those who enter this country go to work (somehow, somewhere)? If so, are you claiming that their employers will be better off not having these people supply them labor?

I must admit, I find it hard to believe that employers who have been knowingly violating the law by employing illegals due to the cheaper labor costs will suddenly be so accommodating to the demands by these newly minted citizens for decent wages, benefits, and all the other items they’ve been denied via threat of deportation.

re: #31 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I must admit, I find it hard to believe that employers who have been knowingly violating the law by employing illegals due to the cheaper labor costs will suddenly be so accommodating to the demands by these newly minted citizens for decent wages, benefits, and all the other items they’ve been denied via threat of deportation.

Enforcement of the labor side of the equation on businesses is probably the most effective way to combat the illegal immigrant labor issue.

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to sign off for the night. I’m fading and need to sleep. Sleep well, folks.

night

re: #31 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I must admit, I find it hard to believe that employers who have been knowingly violating the law by employing illegals due to the cheaper labor costs will suddenly be so accommodating to the demands by these newly minted citizens for decent wages, benefits, and all the other items they’ve been denied via threat of deportation.

Heh. I envision these “newly minted citizens” finding themselves in a position where they say to themselves “Gawt-damnit! These friggin’ illegals are stealing our jobs”.

Why wouldn’t they? If all the illegal immigrant workers here in the States were automagically granted citizenship, they would quickly be replaced by a whole new wave of illegal immigrants ready to be exploited by businesses already using such labor.

re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. I envision these “newly minted citizens” finding themselves in a position where they say to themselves “Gawt-damnit! These friggin’ illegals are stealing our jobs”.

Why wouldn’t they? If all the illegal immigrant workers here in the States were automagically granted citizenship, they would quickly be replaced by a whole new wave of illegal immigrants ready to be exploited by businesses already using such labor.

Exactly what I’m gettin’ at. The argument in favor of amnesty that says these illegals add so much to the economy ignores that they do so by being illegal. These companies are making all this money off not paying the sort of labor costs that companies using 100% legal workforces do. They get away with paying what are essentially slave wages, denying them any benefits, and (in some cases) working them in conditions that would not pass OSHA inspection by threatening any of those injured on the job with deportation if they report this to the authorities.

These companies have been doing it for decades, granting amnesty tomorrow is not gonna make them suddenly decide to go totally legit. You’ll either find all those newly minted legal citizens standing in the unemployment line with the gringos whose jobs they took, replaced with new illegals, or those companies will see their profits drop when they start factoring in the increased labor costs.

Why metal rules:

ORPHANED LAND from Israel is probably the only band from this country ever able to build up a huge following among Muslims and Arabian people that communicate freely via the bands social networking pages.

In your face, all music genres that aren’t prog metal

re: #7 webevintage

Why would anyone think this was a good idea?
[Link: www.lehighvalleylive.com…]

Even though the game shows a black man dressed in a suit, holding a scroll labeled “health bill” and wearing a belt buckle that features the presidential seal, Goodtime Amusements President Irvin L. Good Jr. said the image does not portray President Obama.

Good reports speaking to two people with complaints about the game. Of one complainant, he said, “She said she was offended by it. I said if you are, you might want to be. But you’re interpreting it as being Obama. We’re not interpreting it as Obama.”

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

We also get rid of a million people’s worth of excess spending. We no longer have to pay for their health care, nor any other benefits. When we are talking about illegals, the savings outweigh the costs.

At random, take one million people out of the workforce. Poof gone.

see what happens.

The savings do not in any way outweigh the costs. You’re assuming all 1 million of those illegals do not contribute, don’t have jobs, aren’t valued at their jobs, aren’t functioning members of American society, a conclusion which I really find amazing and stunning that you could come to.

The crime rate for illegals is BELOW legal Americans. If anything, they’re the example. They’re the thing to aspire to.

re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. I envision these “newly minted citizens” finding themselves in a position where they say to themselves “Gawt-damnit! These friggin’ illegals are stealing our jobs”.

Why wouldn’t they? If all the illegal immigrant workers here in the States were automagically granted citizenship, they would quickly be replaced by a whole new wave of illegal immigrants ready to be exploited by businesses already using such labor.

Paddy and Mike came over on the ship from Ireland to America, and they strolled out onto the streets of New York. Paddy turned to Mike and said, “This is grand country altogether. But do you know, there’s one thing wrong with it. Too many foreigners!!”

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

Even though the game shows a black man dressed in a suit, holding a scroll labeled “health bill” and wearing a belt buckle that features the presidential seal, Goodtime Amusements President Irvin L. Good Jr. said the image does not portray President Obama.

Good reports speaking to two people with complaints about the game. Of one complainant, he said, “She said she was offended by it. I said if you are, you might want to be. But you’re interpreting it as being Obama. We’re not interpreting it as Obama.”

We’re just interpreting it as being a random black guy with a health bill that you can shoot in the head for prizes. That’s MUCH better.

re: #35 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’ll simply quote BryanS here:

re: #32 BryanS

Enforcement of the labor side of the equation on businesses is probably the most effective way to combat the illegal immigrant labor issue.

There is a supply of illegal jobs here, so obviously that will be met with the demand of illegal labor. The problem of illegal immigration is looked at in a backwards sort of way here. We don’t need a “fence” nearly as much as we need to crack down on businesses that exploit illegal immigrants desperate for a better life.

re: #27 freetoken

Well, that is your assertion. Can you prove it?

Do you think the majority of those who enter this country go to work (somehow, somewhere)? If so, are you claiming that their employers will be better off not having these people supply them labor?

Man I don’t even know

Here’s what I do know: when you have an incredibly poor destitute country that borders a comparably really rich country, and the comparably wealthy white nativist people of border towns and border states start losing their minds about the illegals? I really don’t give a shit. My heart does not bleed for those people. Poor poor white retirees with nice nest eggs. I’ve literally worked alongside illegals, because I worked in grunt-ass health care for 15 years. They were the best workers my company had. They took the job seriously.

Someone for whom immigration is their number one political issue, that person as as alien to me as they guy for whom UFOs are their number one political issue.

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

I’ll simply quote BryanS here:

re: #32 BryanS

There is a supply of illegal jobs here, so obviously that will be met with the demand of illegal labor. The problem of illegal immigration is looked at in a backwards sort of way here. We don’t need a “fence” nearly as much as we need to crack down on businesses that exploit illegal immigrants desperate for a better life.

It occurs to me that I know enough (American citizen) people who make a living completely under the table, that the term “illegal job” is sort of moot

re: #36 WindUpBird

Metal is universal. If you find yourself with a couple of hours to kill, you should check out this documentary: Heavy Metal in Baghdad.

I think what makes me sympathetic to the plight of the illegals is having gone to school with many immigrants legal and illegal alike. I had one guy in my government class my last year of high school whose family had been oppressed by the Taliban. Believe he was Hazara and Shi’a. I saw a guy who wanted to become American and Americanized. Most immigrants I have known over the years seem to have an ability not to take things for granted that I and my American born classmates have.

re: #43 WindUpBird

Moot? No. An illegal job is an illegal job. Ask the IRS if the term is “moot”.

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

I’ll simply quote BryanS here:

re: #32 BryanS

There is a supply of illegal jobs here, so obviously that will be met with the demand of illegal labor. The problem of illegal immigration is looked at in a backwards sort of way here. We don’t need a “fence” nearly as much as we need to crack down on businesses that exploit illegal immigrants desperate for a better life.

I’ve said for awhile, if you want to see the illegal immigration problem go away, don’t go after the illegals, go after what draws them here. Pass new laws and reform old ones so that the cost of a company caught hiring illegals can be close to, if not totally, crippling to that company and then you enforce those laws with a vengeance. You fine them thousands per head, you put the bosses in jail, you block them from taking part in lucrative government contracts, whatever it takes to get the message across. When the jobs dry up, then the illegals will go home of their own choice.

Of course, it’s easier said than done. Democrats won’t go for it because they’re beholden to the future latino vote, figuring that seeming pro-illegal immigration and pro-amnesty will get them in good with those “future voters.” And the Republicans won’t go for it because their buddies in Big Business will scream bloody murder that it’s wrong for government to tell them who they can and can’t hire and so much other bullshit that equates to letting them get away with murder because they make generous “campaign donations.”

re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth

Metal is universal. If you find yourself with a couple of hours to kill, you should check out this documentary: Heavy Metal in Baghdad.

I have been recommended that doc more thasn once, I keep meaning to sit down and watch it

It’s great, the Katatonia show I’m going to, with Orphaned Land and Swallow the Sun opening?

Swedish band, touring with an Israeli band and a Finnish band. and you know when they’re all backstage together, they do what all metal bands do: talk about Slayer and Sabbath :D

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

Moot? No. An illegal job is an illegal job. Ask the IRS if the term is “moot”.

Well of course THEY’RE interested, what I’m saying is, the difference between a guy who’s an American citizen doing something totally off the books, and an illegal doing something off the books, is really not much of a distinction

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I think what makes me sympathetic to the plight of the illegals is having gone to school with many immigrants legal and illegal alike. I had one guy in my government class my last year of high school whose family had been oppressed by the Taliban. Believe he was Hazara and Shi’a. I saw a guy who wanted to become American and Americanized. Most immigrants I have known over the years seem to have an ability not to take things for granted that I and my American born classmates have.

That has been my experience

Pesky 14th amendment. Do these guys even do their homework? Ever?

re: #49 WindUpBird

Well of course THEY’RE interested, what I’m saying is, the difference between a guy who’s an American citizen doing something totally off the books, and an illegal doing something off the books, is really not much of a distinction

I’d say there is a very significant distinction. An American citizen doing something off the books can easily walk away from such a gig and try to find something on the “up and up” if things go sour.

An illegal immigrant has no such luxury, and is for all intents and purposes beholden to the employers that exploit them.

There is absolutely no equivalence between the two.

re: #48 WindUpBird

Bookmark it, and watch it when you have the time. It’s highly interesting.

Apparently, 9/11 survivors and their families feel a lot of different ways about the Park51 project.

re: #17 BryanS

I don’t see why we don’t encourage more LEGAL immigration. More people living here—more housing needs.

Mexico doesn’t really want more legal immigration either. They want migrant workers who send their earnings back to Mexico.

You’re hitting on something here: as long as there are people on both sides who have no vested interest in solving a problem, it will not get solved.

That was Ito Yukari. Here she is a few years younger:

There’s a lot to be said for elegance.

re: #26 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh God, that brings back memories. Back in the early 00s, there used to be this site called “Satan Trek,” where you had some evangelical nutbar arguing that Star Trek was all kinds of blasphemy and satanism. And I don’t mean just a few rambling paragraphs, I mean this guy had fleshed out an entire website, had edited a few Trek pictures to highlight the “satanic” sides of them, and the whole nine.

Site was there for a few years, then just one day disappeared into the ether. No cache, no screenshots, nothing. Like it just sailed into the Bermuda Triangle and never came out the other side.

It went into a wormhole that ended in a black hole.

re: #60 ClaudeMonet

This was the supposed address, no?

members.tripod.com%~tzimisce69%satantrek.html

where the % become slashes.

Good Morning Lizards!

Simpson Quote of the Day:

Homer: “[drunk] Look, the thing about my family is there’s five of us. Marge, Bart, Girl Bart, the one who doesn’t talk, and the fat guy. How I loathe him.”

re: #55 ralphieboy

You’re hitting on something here: as long as there are people on both sides who have no vested interest in solving a problem, it will not get solved.

Doesn’t have to be both sides. As we’ve seen from the saga of the people commonly referred to as Palestinians, even if only one side has no vested interest in a real solution, it will not get solved.

Kippers for breakfast!

re: #64 thedopefishlives

Jordyptians.

re: #66 MandyManners

Jordyptians.

I like to use the extended phrase because I will not do them the honor of calling them Palestinians, but not everybody knows what a Jordyptian is. Although I certainly wish that were the case.

No time today… but enough to say, “HI Y’ALL!”

*waves as he runs out the door*

re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No time today… but enough to say, “HI Y’ALL!”

*waves as he runs out the door*

*WHOOSH*….bye!

re: #67 thedopefishlives

I like to use the extended phrase because I will not do them the honor of calling them Palestinians, but not everybody knows what a Jordyptian is. Although I certainly wish that were the case.

I use it all the time. When someone asks me what that term means, I give her/him the defiinition.

re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No time today… but enough to say, “HI Y’ALL!”

*waves as he runs out the door*

PIE!

In light of the thread topic:

Churchill ordered UFO cover-up, National Archives show

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk…]

“The government took the threat of UFOs so seriously in the 1950s that UK intelligence chiefs met to discuss the issue, newly-released files show.

Ministers even went on to commission weekly reports on UFO sightings from a committee of intelligence experts.

The papers also include a wartime account claiming prime minister Winston Churchill ordered a UFO sighting be kept secret to prevent “mass panic”.”

Toodles!

Good thing I’m up now considering I work at….4. I may work in a nap. Morning Honcos.

It’s beer time!!!!
[Link: www.lowryparkzoo.com…]

re: #38 WindUpBird

The crime rate for illegals is BELOW legal Americans. If anything, they’re the example. They’re the thing to aspire to.

That’s funny; the crime rate of illegal aliens is by definition 100%.

Glancing at the UCR I don’t see a breakdown by nationality and due to the fact that so many states are barred from asking status upon arrest, I do not see how you can state that the crime rate for illegals is less than that of citizens.

Why is it a week of vacation is shorter than a week of work??
I know I took a week…..the Odometer on the truck has
2,557 more miles!
I think I found a hole in the Time /Space Continuum thingy..deal!
It’s good to be back!!….(.Heavy////).;-)

re: #76 Stonemason

Me thinks it would have to go by percentage of the population. And we can’t get to a number on illegals that are here.

re: #77 reloadingisnotahobby

Good for who?
///

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good for who?
///

I’ll have to get back to ya on that!!

re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me thinks it would have to go by percentage of the population. And we can’t get to a number on illegals that are here.

Correct, therefore the statement that we should ‘aspire to’ be like the illegals based on a number that would be impossible to quantify is injecting feelings into the discussion.

A Rod hit his 600th home run last night. I love him. Hate the Yankees. But I have 4 of his rookie cards. Woot!

” I don’t like the Latino Stereo type….
We’re NOT ALL hard worker.”…!
Esparza
Last comic Standing

re: #81 Stonemason

I can show you a bunch of illegals who aspire to become Americans every day. I can also take you to a store where all they do is hang out, get drunk and work the system. This is a fucked up situation.

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar
Or…on the Vegas Strip handing out porn fliers…

re: #85 reloadingisnotahobby

Or…on the Vegas Strip handing out porn fliers…

Whoa. Porn fliers? Now there is a job Americans just won’t do.
/

re: #86 Cannadian Club Akbar

Whoa. Porn fliers? Now there is a job Americans just won’t do.
/

And BTW, I have picked tomatoes and other veggies and sold them in the front yard of my mom’s house. So save that argument.

re: #86 Cannadian Club Akbar

…Rather than buy Billboard space ..they DRIVE A MOBILE
Billboard up and down the strip all day!!
…For LAP DANCES!!!
What a counrty!!

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can show you a bunch of illegals who aspire to become Americans every day. I can also take you to a store where all they do is hang out, get drunk and work the system. This is a fucked up situation.

I agree, it needs to be fixed. It seems to me to be like a leak in a pipe. before you can patch the leak well, you need to shut off the water, or, at the very least, slow the flow to the point that the patch is viable.

How to stem the flow? Prosecute the companies that hire illegal employees; of course that means identifying the illegals…

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you have a buisness licence???/

re: #88 reloadingisnotahobby

…Rather than buy Billboard space ..they DRIVE A MOBILE
Billboard up and down the strip all day!!
…For LAP DANCES!!!
What a counrty!!

Vermont has no billboards. But they do have a socialist Senator.

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar
On vac…I noticed far fewer billboards in Calif….
Do they have any Social……Oh yeah…never mind!

re: #90 reloadingisnotahobby

Did you have a buisness licence???/

The city can bite me. I’m actually thinking of doing this again. Underprice the store.

No news for a week ….
So…Pelosi is draining a swamp???
Right person for the right job!
Because SHE SUCKS!!!

Good morning LGF

re: #94 reloadingisnotahobby

No news for a week …
So…Pelosi is draining a swamp???
Right person for the right job!
Because SHE SUCKS!!!

She is trying to save the Dems hold on the House. She is all about the political.

The Colbert Report: P.K. Winsome - Black Viewer Ratings with a little comedy bit inspired by the Nielsen Ratings / Fox News African-American audience percentage news.

re: #97 000G

I don’t watch Fox News. Does that make me an African American? I’m half Polish so I’m not sure…
//

Fucking bully is now calling The Kid a “mental retard” because I had him repeat fourth grade for a B- average.

I’m about to go bat-shit crazy over this. I sent an extremely pointed e-mail to the pincipal yesterday. This shit has to stop. I just cannot fucking believe it. This asshole has been bullying my son for a fucking year. Good grief. It stops now or I’ll haul his ass before the board of trustees.

re: #99 MandyManners
….A Teacher??

re: #99 MandyManners

Mandy. Tell The Kid to punch him in the mouth. Trust me.

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

For gas money…I’ll do it!!

re: #100 reloadingisnotahobby

…A Teacher??

No, a student. The bully is in another grade now but, he sees The Kid in the hall on the way to chapel.

re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby

For gas money…I’ll do it!!

I wanna smack you for the samich in your cooler!!
//

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

Mandy. Tell The Kid to punch him in the mouth. Trust me.

Nope. I will not have The Kid throw the first one but, I’m teaching him to throw the last one.

re: #105 MandyManners

Nope. I will not have The Kid throw the first one but, I’m teaching him to throw the last one.

I guess we diagree. Sometimes you have to be proactive.

re: #105 MandyManners

LOL !
Excellent!!!

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

I guess we diagree. Sometimes you have to be proactive.

In school, as in real life, throwing the first punch gets you in heap bigum trouble.

re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby

For gas money…I’ll do it!!

Just for the record….I was unaware we were
talking about a minor!!!
….He needs a SPANKING!!

Bless his heart but, my dad’s got involved. Like he doesn’t have enough to deal with concerning my mom who is oh-so slowly dying.

These folks don’t know it but, I’m not one to fuck with. I might seem mild and meek here but, I can be a fucking raging and raving fucking bitch from hell when you fuck with my family, especially my son.

Work calls!!
Damn!
See ya………….

re: #108 thedopefishlives

In school, as in real life, throwing the first punch gets you in heap bigum trouble.

You throw down and you suffer the consequences. But that will end that.

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

I guess we diagree. Sometimes you have to be proactive.

The child who gets physical first at school gets punshed. The child who defends himself doesn’t.

re: #110 MandyManners

Bless his heart but, my dad’s got involved. Like he doesn’t have enough to deal with concerning my mom who is oh-so slowly dying.

These folks don’t know it but, I’m not one to fuck with. I might seem mild and meek here but, I can be a fucking raging and raving fucking bitch from hell when you fuck with my family, especially my son.

You are very mild here.
/

re: #107 reloadingisnotahobby

LOL !
Excellent!!!

I’m little but, I’m mean.

re: #110 MandyManners

I might seem mild and meek here but,

Who are you…and WHAT have you done with MANDY???

re: #108 thedopefishlives

In school, as in real life, throwing the first punch gets you in heap bigum trouble.

Precisely.

re: #114 Cannadian Club Akbar

You are very mild here.
/

Little Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine at your service!

re: #116 reloadingisnotahobby

Who are you…and WHAT have you done with MANDY???

I shoved her into the filing cabinet.

re: #118 MandyManners

Little Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine at your service!

I’m gonna be serviced? Sweet!!
//please, not the face

re: #112 Cannadian Club Akbar

You throw down and you suffer the consequences. But that will end that.

That’s a great philosophy and all, but some of us would prefer not to be charged with assault.

Please, dont’ tread on me.

I SAID “PLEASE.”

re: #121 thedopefishlives

That’s a great philosophy and all, but some of us would prefer not to be charged with assault.

He’s a kid. This is what they do.

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m gonna be serviced? Sweet!!
//please, not the face

Oh, you. I’m laughing.

Thanks, CCA!

re: #121 thedopefishlives
An assault charge would cost me my JOB….
..and my concealment permit…

re: #125 reloadingisnotahobby

An assault charge would cost me my JOB…
..and my concealment permit…

THEN SCREW YOU!! NEENER NEERNER!!!
/

re: #121 thedopefishlives

That’s a great philosophy and all, but some of us would prefer not to be charged with assault.

wuss/

Morning All!

re: #127 RogueOne

wuss/

Morning All!

Good. Now I have a dog in this fight.

re: #121 thedopefishlives

That’s a great philosophy and all, but some of us would prefer not to be charged with assault.

I understand CCA’s philosophy. And, I approve of it in certain situations.

The Kid has put up with all kinds of shit from this fucking punk for a year. He face-masked The Kid repeatedly during football practice. That got stopped when I alerted the coach. He taunted him about his Broncos’ jersey. The Kid told him to “shut the fuck up you fucking bully” and the bully took a swing at him. The Kid ducked and then shoved him onto his ass. The bully was benched for his actions for twice as long as The Kid was benched for his language.

Well knock me over with a feather alert:

White House Ducks 9/11 Ground Zero Mosque Project Bouncer
2010-08-05 13:40:00
The Obama administration has distanced itself from the heated dispute over whether an Islamic cultural center and mosque should be built a couple blocks away from the 9/11 Ground Zero.
“This is rightly a matter for New York City and the local community to decide,” CBS News quoted Robert Gibbs, White House Press Secretary, as saying.
It comes despite President Barack Obama’s high profile efforts to reach out to the Muslim community since taking office.
“Islam, as we know, is part of America,” Obama had said last September.
On a number of occasions, Obama has also sought to defend American Muslims from the stigma of the terrorists who share their religion.
“We know that the vast majority of Muslims reject Al-Qaeda,” he said last January.
Based on these statements, it was expected that Obama would take the side of the Muslims seeking to build the 13-story community center and mosque in New York.
However, it is now being said that the President does not want to offend the Muslims nor the families of 9/11 victims, who view the construction of the mosque as an insult to the memories of their loved ones.
[Link: sify.com…]

I guess the WH thinks this is a local issue rather than a national one, eh?

Bless your hearts, Lizards! I’m laughing again.

re: #129 MandyManners

I can’t imagine where he got his language from.
/har

re: #129 MandyManners

Sounds to me like the boy is doing the right thing. There’s only one way to get rid of a bully and that’s to stand up to him. The bully will find an easier target eventually and your kid will learn a valuable lesson about himself in the meantime.

re: #129 MandyManners

I understand CCA’s philosophy. And, I approve of it in certain situations.

The Kid has put up with all kinds of shit from this fucking punk for a year. He face-masked The Kid repeatedly during football practice. That got stopped when I alerted the coach. He taunted him about his Broncos’ jersey. The Kid told him to “shut the fuck up you fucking bully” and the bully took a swing at him. The Kid ducked and then shoved him onto his ass. The bully was benched for his actions for twice as long as The Kid was benched for his language.

Hey, I didn’t say there weren’t times when it’s necessary. I’ve been in a scrap or two myself. And, as a certified geek, I can tell you that I’ve had to deal with more than my fair share of bullies.

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good. Now I have a dog in this fight.

I wish I knew what everyone was talking about but I’m all for slapping people who have it coming.

re: #133 RogueOne

Sounds to me like the boy is doing the right thing. There’s only one way to get rid of a bully and that’s to stand up to him. The bully will find an easier target eventually and your kid will learn a valuable lesson about himself in the meantime.

The Kid will get a million dates if he drops the fucker.

re: #132 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can’t imagine where he got his language from.
/har

Not here. I am cirumspect around him. But, he hangs out with kids who have older siblings, and shit just happens.

re: #105 MandyManners

Nope. I will not have The Kid throw the first one but, I’m teaching him to throw the last one.

Two words for ya. Pentjak Silat.

The video is a bit harsh as the first punch is a knife attack. What I like is it “hunts the weapon”. That is you hammer the incoming limb, rather than going for a head shot. Merciful and effective.

re: #130 spare o’lake

Well knock me over with a feather alert:

I guess the WH thinks this is a local issue rather than a national one, eh?

It is a local issue.

re: #133 RogueOne

Sounds to me like the boy is doing the right thing. There’s only one way to get rid of a bully and that’s to stand up to him. The bully will find an easier target eventually and your kid will learn a valuable lesson about himself in the meantime.

I get involved when physical harm can happen, such as the face-masking attacks.

I debated with myself a long time about getting involved with the verbal bullying at school and at practice. I decided to jump in because this is an on-going, pervasive issue.

I do my best to give my son all the tools he needs to deal with the world but, at some point momma’ bear has to tear a strip off of someone.

re: #134 thedopefishlives

Hey, I didn’t say there weren’t times when it’s necessary. I’ve been in a scrap or two myself. And, as a certified geek, I can tell you that I’ve had to deal with more than my fair share of bullies.

Beat the hell out of them with your slide-rule!!!

Or, hack into their bank account and ship their money to Nigeria.

re: #135 RogueOne

I wish I knew what everyone was talking about but I’m all for slapping people who have it coming.

*slap*

re: #142 MandyManners

*slap*

Nope. Didn’t see that one coming.

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Kid will get a million dates if he drops the fucker.

Not if he’s expelled.

re: #140 MandyManners

I get involved when physical harm can happen, such as the face-masking attacks.

I debated with myself a long time about getting involved with the verbal bullying at school and at practice. I decided to jump in because this is an on-going, pervasive issue.

I do my best to give my son all the tools he needs to deal with the world but, at some point momma’ bear has to tear a strip off of someone.

Tell The Kid to do what is best in his mind. Good for character building.

re: #141 MandyManners

Beat the hell out of them with your slide-rule!!!

Or, hack into their bank account and ship their money to Nigeria.

Actually, in one amusing incident, I actually dodged a kid’s punch and he punched the steel anchor pole of one of the pieces of playground equipment. Needless to say, he liked me even less after that.

re: #138 Rightwingconspirator

Two words for ya. Pentjak Silat.

The video is a bit harsh as the first punch is a knife attack. What I like is it “hunts the weapon”. That is you hammer the incoming limb, rather than going for a head shot. Merciful and effective.

I’ve considered getting him into a martial art but, until now I’ve figured he wouldn’t *get* it. I’m rethinking it now.

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

It is a local issue.

So was that field in Pennsylvania.

re: #147 MandyManners

I’ve considered getting him into a martial art but, until now I’ve figured he wouldn’t *get* it. I’m rethinking it now.

One word. Boxing.

re: #146 thedopefishlives

Actually, in one amusing incident, I actually dodged a kid’s punch and he punched the steel anchor pole of one of the pieces of playground equipment. Needless to say, he liked me even less after that.

Everyone I have gotten into it with became friends. But that is funny.

re: #140 MandyManners

I get involved when physical harm can happen, such as the face-masking attacks.

I debated with myself a long time about getting involved with the verbal bullying at school and at practice. I decided to jump in because this is an on-going, pervasive issue.

I do my best to give my son all the tools he needs to deal with the world but, at some point momma’ bear has to tear a strip off of someone.

He’s lucky to have you covering his back. I went to 12 years of Catholic school, and I don’t know if it was the times (50’s-60’s), or the places (Brooklyn and North New Jersey) or if it was some unspoken policy of Catholic education, but I was left up to my own devices with the bullies.

It was almost like the teachers and other adults felt it was an esteem building exercise to let the bullies do what they want, and the general attitude was YOU should fight back, do something about it yourself, stand up for yourself you whining sniveling little piece of shit.

Excuse me.

re: #147 MandyManners

I’ve considered getting him into a martial art but, until now I’ve figured he wouldn’t *get* it. I’m rethinking it now.

I would highly recommend it. There are some excellent martial arts schools with programs for kids even younger than The Kid, that focus on building self-confidence and defensive use of force.

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Nope. Didn’t see that one coming.

You were busy dancing.

re: #148 MandyManners

So was that field in Pennsylvania.

Building a house of worship is not the same as crashing planes in buildings. Period.

re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tell The Kid to do what is best in his mind. Good for character building.

I’m responsible for shaping his mind. I don’t want my son to throw the first punch if he is able to defuse the situation. Making peace starts with the person.

That said, peace at the price of dignity and sanity is not a peace worth having.

re: #146 thedopefishlives

Actually, in one amusing incident, I actually dodged a kid’s punch and he punched the steel anchor pole of one of the pieces of playground equipment. Needless to say, he liked me even less after that.

ROFLMAO!!!

Punks don’t learn their lessons.

re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar

One word. Boxing.

There’s no facility/trainer around here. There are a few martial arts’ dojos, though. But, they’re all quite a drive.

re: #156 MandyManners

ROFLMAO!!!

Punks don’t learn their lessons.

They do one way. Just sayin’.

re: #157 MandyManners

There’s no facility/trainer around here. There are a few martial arts’ dojos, though. But, they’re all quite a drive.

Try youtube.

WTF Alert:

‘Obama Misplaced Trust in Netanyahu’
By LAHAV HARKOV
08/05/2010 16:06
Intel organization accuses Israel of ‘blindsiding’ US on Iran.
A letter from a group of former intelligence professionals imploring US President Barack Obama to prevent a war with Iran sharply critiqued Israel and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s policies, saying they should not be trusted.
Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) said on Tuesday that “comments by senior American officials, you included, reflect misplaced trust in Israeli Prime Minister [Binyamin] Netanyahu” and that Obama’s friendly tone with Netanyahu “was distinctly out of tune with decades of unfortunate history with Israeli leaders.”
The VIPS letter quoted Obama as saying about Netanyahu “neither of us try to surprise each other,” adding that the president “may wish to ask Vice President Biden to remind you of the kind of surprises he has encountered in Israel.”
VIPS is a group of former intelligence professionals of current and former US intelligence officials that was founded in 2003 to protest the use of faulty intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq. It is headed by former top officials from the CIA, State Department, Department of Deffense, US military and other agencies.
The organization accused Israel of consistantly deceiving the US: “Blindsiding has long been an arrow in Israel’s quiver. During the emerging Middle East crisis in the spring of 1967, some of us witnessed closely a flood of Israeli surprises and deception, as Netanyahu’s predecessors feigned fear of an imminent Arab attack as justification for starting a war to seize and occupy Arab territories…We had long since concluded that Israel had been exaggerating the Arab ‘threat.’”
VIPS then quotes Ha’aretz columnist Gideon Levy, who called Netanyahu “a con artist … who thinks that Washington is in his pocket and that he can pull the wool over its eyes.”
The letter also accuses the “Likud Lobby” of having a disproportionate influence on American policy, citing a recent visit by Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Joseph Lieberman as proof. VIPS quotes Lieberman as saying that Congress would use “military actions if we must” to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear power, and Graham as saying “Congress has Israel’s back.” The organization then adds that 47 House Republicans have signed a declaration of “support for Israel’s right to use all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by Iran … including the use of military force.”

VIPS also estimated that Israel would attack Iran in the next month, without American approval.
“Israel’s leaders would calculate that once the battle is joined, it will be politically untenable for you to give anything less than unstinting support to Israel, no matter how the war started, and that US troops and weaponry would flow freely. Wider war could eventually result in destruction of the state of Israel,” the letter reads.
VIPS’s recommendation for preventing an Israeli attack on Iran is as follows: “A strong public statement by [Obama], personally warning Israel not to attack Iran would most probably head off such an Israeli move. Follow-up might include dispatching Adm. Mullen to Tel Aviv with military-to-military instructions to Israel: Don’t even think of it.”
The letter concludes with this advice for Obama: “They are probably telling you that, since you have privately counseled Prime Minister Netanyahu against attacking Iran, he will not do it. This could simply be the familiar syndrome of telling the President what they believe he wants to hear.”
“Quiz them; tell them others believe them to be dead wrong on Netanyahu. The only positive here is that you — only you — can prevent an Israeli attack on Iran.”
[Link: www.jpost.com…]

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

He’s lucky to have you covering his back. I went to 12 years of Catholic school, and I don’t know if it was the times (50’s-60’s), or the places (Brooklyn and North New Jersey) or if it was some unspoken policy of Catholic education, but I was left up to my own devices with the bullies.

It was almost like the teachers and other adults felt it was an esteem building exercise to let the bullies do what they want, and the general attitude was YOU should fight back, do something about it yourself, stand up for yourself you whining sniveling little piece of shit.

Excuse me.

(((Walter)))

I understand that kids have to work things out for themselves but, this is an on-going and pervasive situation. This shit stops this week.

I hope the principal enjoys the tacks I stuck in her head with my e-mail yesterday.

re: #147 MandyManners

As fast as you see a punch coming, you want martial arts. Fair warning, not a fast fix. But you knew that. :)]

BBL

re: #152 thedopefishlives

I would highly recommend it. There are some excellent martial arts schools with programs for kids even younger than The Kid, that focus on building self-confidence and defensive use of force.

We live in a rather remote village so things like that require a looonnnggg drive. Said drive is reserved right now for school and football practice. We’ll see what the winter brings.

re: #154 Walter L. Newton

Building a house of worship is not the same as crashing planes in buildings. Period.

I’m gonna’ muffle myself now.

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

It is a local issue.

I originally thought so too, but didn’t that change once the issue was transformed into a constitutional one?

re: #160 spare o’lake

WTF Alert:

This is good news… evidently President Obama stands by Netanyahu, in public and private, and that has upset some former lefty intelligence operatives. Too bad for them.

A problem is that verbal bullying doesn’t get recognized as bullying. Neither does emotional bullying, something I learned when dealing with a similar issue for my daughter.

For what it’s worth, schools are beginning to add clauses to the anti-bullying rules and regulations, but there’s still a lot of failure. The failure’s causes are two-fold.

First, it’s harder to recognize when it’s happening. It’s the problem with politically correct speech. There’s a line when it goes from stopping bullying to excessive constraint of speech. That line is not bright but is instead a zone in which the break point is not merely different for each individual but different for that individual depending on a lot of other factors. Something I’ll tolerate today may be unacceptable tomorrow after I fail a test, to make up an example.

The second cause is the lack of evidence. You’re getting, literally, he-said/he-said battles with (usually) biased witnesses and no marks, bruises, torn clothes, or anything else to help figure out which side is lying or exaggerating.

It isn’t easy to solve. It happens, though, and is recognized enough people are trying to fix it. I wish you luck.

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

They do one way. Just sayin’.

It’s all a matter of perspective.

Look, if this bully is destined to wind up in 23/7 lockdown, that’s where he’ll go. My goal is to keep The Kid safe and to raise him to be a Christian gentleman.

Mandy, for The Kid.

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

Try youtube.

Not a substitute for reality in this case.

re: #161 MandyManners

(((Walter)))

I understand that kids have to work things out for themselves but, this is an on-going and pervasive situation. This shit stops this week.

I hope the principal enjoys the tacks I stuck in her head with my e-mail yesterday.

I don’t need any hugs. I wasn’t suggesting that kids need to work everything out for themselves. I was pointing out the opposite, there was a time, at least in my life, when adult educators (and parents) did not get involved at all.

re: #163 MandyManners

We live in a rather remote village so things like that require a looonnnggg drive. Said drive is reserved right now for school and football practice. We’ll see what the winter brings.

Honestly, I think it’s worth it. Which reminds me, I should start resuming the long drive from my remote village and get back into martial arts. I feel like a slug.

re: #151 Walter L. Newton

I grew up the son of a single mom and we moved at least once a year and sometimes twice. Always having that new kid smell on me made me a bit of a target even though I was bigger than almost everyone. My mom was the one who taught me the quickest way to get through it was to bust the first kid who got smart with me in the mouth. After you lay out the first kid the rest would give me enough space to figure out where to fit in.

re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar

Mandy, for The Kid.

I thought for sure you were posting this:

re: #173 RogueOne

Amen.

WASHINGTON — Cash-poor New York state got a step closer yesterday to pocketing some emergency money from Uncle Sam.

The US Senate broke a monthlong Republican filibuster to advance a $26 billion aid package that would help states pay Medicaid obligations and avoid teacher layoffs.

take a number and form a line on the left please…

Read more: [Link: www.nypost.com…]

re: #160 spare o’lake

WTF Alert:

Who are these fucks?

I guarantee you that they have wet dreams for Mearsheimer and Walt.

re: #162 Rightwingconspirator

As fast as you see a punch coming, you want martial arts. Fair warning, not a fast fix. But you knew that. :)]

BBL

Have a great day!

re: #165 spare o’lake

I originally thought so too, but didn’t that change once the issue was transformed into a constitutional one?

Getting your logic out of the cereal box this morning? Every step you take on a daily basis is a constitutional issue. We live free to do and practice certain things every day because of the constitution. Does that make everything you do, ever issue you deal with a FEDERAL ISSUE.

You’re really stretching.

re: #173 RogueOne

I grew up the son of a single mom and we moved at least once a year and sometimes twice. Always having that new kid smell on me made me a bit of a target even though I was bigger than almost everyone. My mom was the one who taught me the quickest way to get through it was to bust the first kid who got smart with me in the mouth. After you lay out the first kid the rest would give me enough space to figure out where to fit in.

Then you agree with the teachers and adults I dealt with growing up… it was my fault for not taking care of it?

re: #166 Walter L. Newton

This is good news… evidently President Obama stands by Netanyahu, in public and private, and that has upset some former lefty intelligence operatives. Too bad for them.

Righto. Great news.

re: #181 spare o’lake

Righto. Great news.

Then why did you head your comment “WTF.”

re: #167 kirkspencer

A problem is that verbal bullying doesn’t get recognized as bullying. Neither does emotional bullying, something I learned when dealing with a similar issue for my daughter.

For what it’s worth, schools are beginning to add clauses to the anti-bullying rules and regulations, but there’s still a lot of failure. The failure’s causes are two-fold.

First, it’s harder to recognize when it’s happening. It’s the problem with politically correct speech. There’s a line when it goes from stopping bullying to excessive constraint of speech. That line is not bright but is instead a zone in which the break point is not merely different for each individual but different for that individual depending on a lot of other factors. Something I’ll tolerate today may be unacceptable tomorrow after I fail a test, to make up an example.

The second cause is the lack of evidence. You’re getting, literally, he-said/he-said battles with (usually) biased witnesses and no marks, bruises, torn clothes, or anything else to help figure out which side is lying or exaggerating.

It isn’t easy to solve. It happens, though, and is recognized enough people are trying to fix it. I wish you luck.

You’re right about the he-said/he-said issues but, so far we’ve been lucky. The coach witneseed the face-masking and the physical confrontation.

I’m all for children working things out for themselves becasue life does not come swathed in sweetness and light. But, at some point momma’ bear rips off a strip.

re: #180 Walter L. Newton

Walter. You know this. If you “pop” them, they will back down.

re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar

Mandy, for The Kid.

I can’t let him do something like that without expert guidance.

re: #171 Walter L. Newton

I don’t need any hugs. I wasn’t suggesting that kids need to work everything out for themselves. I was pointing out the opposite, there was a time, at least in my life, when adult educators (and parents) did not get involved at all.

(((Walter)))

*runs away*

re: #185 MandyManners

I can’t let him do something like that without expert guidance.

It’s shadow boxing.

re: #171 Walter L. Newton

I don’t need any hugs. I wasn’t suggesting that kids need to work everything out for themselves. I was pointing out the opposite, there was a time, at least in my life, when adult educators (and parents) did not get involved at all.

Seriously, I get what you’re saying.

I don’t think that approach was good.

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Honestly, I think it’s worth it. Which reminds me, I should start resuming the long drive from my remote village and get back into martial arts. I feel like a slug.

Watch out for Kilgore’s frogs!!!

re: #173 RogueOne

I grew up the son of a single mom and we moved at least once a year and sometimes twice. Always having that new kid smell on me made me a bit of a target even though I was bigger than almost everyone. My mom was the one who taught me the quickest way to get through it was to bust the first kid who got smart with me in the mouth. After you lay out the first kid the rest would give me enough space to figure out where to fit in.

Well, that works, too, in certain situations. Not on the way to chapel, though.

re: #160 spare o’lake

Obama can’t seem to catch a break, but it’s clear to me that VIPS is anti-Semitic. F* em.

re: #188 MandyManners

Seriously, I get what you’re saying.

I don’t think that approach was good.

I don’t either. What the teachers should have done was duct tape the bullies wrists together and then hold them so I could beat the ever loving shit out of them.

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

Getting your logic out of the cereal box this morning? Every step you take on a daily basis is a constitutional issue. We live free to do and practice certain things every day because of the constitution. Does that make everything you do, ever issue you deal with a FEDERAL ISSUE.

You’re really stretching.

So it’s strictly a local matter and neither the State nor the Feds have any right to intervene. OK. Great.

re: #180 Walter L. Newton

Then you agree with the teachers and adults I dealt with growing up… it was my fault for not taking care of it?

No, each family has their own way of dealing with these kinds of issues. My family is very non-pacifist. As a kid I saw my mom jump over a counter at a wendys and go after some girl who called her a bitch. I learned my favorite phrase “I’ll beat you till the cops get here” from an older cousin. My great-aunt shot my uncle. Good times, good times.

re: #174 ShaunP

I thought for sure you were posting this:

[Video]

Freakin’ awesome!

I just got my paycheck. This isn’t working.

re: #176 albusteve

NY passed a $136.5 billion budget yesterday. It increased spending by 2.6% or about $3.2 billion over last year’s budget. How’d they do it? Well, they raised taxes by more than $1 billion. Business as usual.

If the state eliminated the tax increase and cut spending by $1 billion, you wouldn’t have needed the tax hikes.

That thought didn’t even cross their feeble minds. Instead, we’ll have tax hikes and when the revenues fall short, the budget will again be in deficit and the state will be looking for a bailout. Again.

re: #180 Walter L. Newton

Then you agree with the teachers and adults I dealt with growing up… it was my fault for not taking care of it?

Different time, different place, different players.

re: #190 MandyManners

Well, that works, too, in certain situations. Not on the way to chapel, though.

I dunno. After my mom married a preacher I punched some kid in the mouth in front of a couple thousand people at a christian convention. My minister had a panic attack.

re: #194 RogueOne

OMG. I am laughing. Sorry.

re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar

It’s shadow boxing.

I know but, it’s useless unless he has the tools to beat the shit out of someone to begin with.

re: #201 MandyManners

I know but, it’s useless unless he has the tools to beat the shit out of someone to begin with.

Watch the video. That is what it teaches.

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

I don’t either. What the teachers should have done was duct tape the bullies wrists together and then hold them so I could beat the ever loving shit out of them.

*cackles*

That would work, too.

But, many bullies are that way because they’re abused at home, whether verbally or physically.

Other bullies, though, are just assholes.

re: #182 Walter L. Newton

Then why did you head your comment “WTF.”

You been missing my sarc lately, eh Walter?
WTF is for this cabal of former intelligence and military officials who seem dedicated to undermining the US - Israel relationship.
You have an interesting concept of what constitutes good news.

It’s quite and I’m gonna’ take advantage of it.

NAP TIME!

Love you, Lizards! Thanks for hearing me out and all of your advice.

re: #204 spare o’lake

You been missing my sarc lately, eh Walter?
WTF is for this cabal of former intelligence and military officials who seem dedicated to undermining the US - Israel relationship.
You have an interesting concept of what constitutes good news.

You know exactly what “good news” I was pointing out in that article, and it had nothing to do with complimenting the former intelligence and military officials… erecting straw men must be your hobby.

Sod off.

re: #99 MandyManners

{Mandy and The Kid}

re: #200 Cannadian Club Akbar

OMG. I am laughing. Sorry.

Yeah, I don’t go to family reunions anymore.

re: #208 RogueOne

Yeah, I don’t go to family reunions anymore.

I don’t blame you.

re: #191 marjoriemoon

Obama can’t seem to catch a break, but it’s clear to me that VIPS is anti-Semitic. F* em.

I don’t what they are, but they sound like Paulians. How do these assholes think that taking the military option off the table will further America’s policy of preventing Iran from acquiring nukes?

re: #99 MandyManners

Fucking bully is now calling The Kid a “mental retard” because I had him repeat fourth grade for a B- average.

I’m about to go bat-shit crazy over this. I sent an extremely pointed e-mail to the pincipal yesterday. This shit has to stop. I just cannot fucking believe it. This asshole has been bullying my son for a fucking year. Good grief. It stops now or I’ll haul his ass before the board of trustees.

Mandy I know exactly what your kid is going through! I was held back a year which put me straight in the sights of the school bully’s, I was picked on and beaten up at least three times the next year, they trashed my books every chance they got and I had to learn to get tough real fast. I didn’t have the benefit of a concerned parent to help me out like your son (daughter?) does, my Mom had to work full time and had my four brothers to ride herd on so I was pretty much on my own. I can only thank God I didn’t have access to a gun or I probably would have been one of the first to use it in a school shooting. I was depressed all the time and only the fact I had three big brothers that found out what was happening kept me from seriously getting into trouble. All the picking on and crap finally stopped in High School. I’m glad your child has you on his/her side.

re: #206 Walter L. Newton

You disingenuously asked me why I titled the post with WTF, knowing full well why I said it.
Are you OK?

re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don’t blame you.

At a 4th of July party one year a cousin and one of my uncles got into a big argument and my uncle stabbed my cousin with a 2” pocket knife. The look of shock on his face when he got stabbed was priceless. The cousin tried to choke the life out of my uncle and he kept screaming “YOU STABBED ME, YOU STABBED ME!!”. There was alcohol involved, there’s always alcohol involved.

Here’s an odd story coming out of the Maine Tea Party:

Threats lead to Tea Party coup in Maine

I was cornered in the parking lot by 10+ people and told that bad things would happen to me if I did not give them the password and hand over Maine Patriots. Therefore, I no longer have control of Maine Patriots.

Amy

re: #212 spare o’lake

You disingenuously asked me why I titled the post with WTF, knowing full well why I said it.
Are you OK?

No… I HONESTLY asked you why you title the post “WTF” and you came back with a smart-assed answer. MUch like you always do around here.

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

No… I HONESTLY asked you why you title the post “WTF” and you came back with a smart-assed answer. MUch like you always do around here.

Bullshit.
Done.

re: #214 JasonA

Here’s an odd story coming out of the Maine Tea Party:

Threats lead to Tea Party coup in Maine

Ahhhh…. they are going to take over the UNited States… run… flail arms… scream… take cover… the militia is coming…

I need a nap. Rouge, you are killing me. (so to speak).

re: #217 Walter L. Newton

Ahhh… they are going to take over the UNited States… run… flail arms… scream… take cover… the militia is coming…

Just me get my gun and I’ll protect you!// ;)

re: #217 Walter L. Newton

Ahhh… they are going to take over the UNited States… run… flail arms… scream… take cover… the militia is coming…

Great job taking that to such an extreme conclusion, Walter.

re: #214 JasonA

Here’s an odd story coming out of the Maine Tea Party:

Threats lead to Tea Party coup in Maine

Strange. MOst of these local tea party groups probably become little social clubs with cliques and pretty squabbles about direction and leadership are probably pretty common.

re: #221 Killgore Trout

Strange. MOst of these local tea party groups probably become little social clubs with cliques and pretty squabbles about direction and leadership are probably pretty common.

Yeah, but to the point where people are cornered in a parking lot and coerced to hand over the keys, as this woman is claiming?

Anywho, I have to run. Enjoy your morning, all.

Well I’ll see you all next week, I’m heading to sin city this morning, playing chauffeur for my parents. Take care all and Keep Laughing!

re: #223 Dragon_Lady

Well I’ll see you all next week, I’m heading to sin city this morning, playing chauffeur for my parents. Take care all and Keep Laughing!

Vegas? ..or San Fransisco??
Vegas = HOT!!

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

Walter. You know this. If you “pop” them, they will back down.

Not always.

Standard myth is that if you stand up to a bully, if you ‘punch them in the nose’, your problems are done. Standard myth is overly simplistic.

It will work if there are weaker fish for the bully to move to. It will work if the bully believes the effective resistance was not a fluke. It will work if the bully is smart enough to recognize the strategic situation has changed.

Thing is, the bully is going to think that if he gives up he is labeling himself as a victim. After all, giving up is what made you (and others) victims in the first place. As a result, most bullies are going to have to try to suppress the escaping victim for what they perceive as their own self-interest.

This means you will get more attention, more bullying, more opportunities to stand up to the bully. Barring really stupid bullies, it also means the bully will use heavier tactics; supporters to hold you being one example, with indirect attacks (damage to your property) being another.

Now the prison-yard recommendation above works - show the potential bullies that while you may not be the toughest fish in the yard you’ll make any attackers bleed if they take you on. But it only works if you use it at the first opportunity. It also carries costs in that you then have to prove you aren’t just another bully. Not a big deal in a prison society,but pretty big if you want to be part of a cooperative society.

Mencken was right. When the issues involve people, easy answers are probably wrong.

re: #214 JasonA

Here’s an odd story coming out of the Maine Tea Party:

Threats lead to Tea Party coup in Maine

Funny shit. And yes, the comments at the Maine Tea Party/Tea party of Maine website are entertaining, to say the least.

re: #177 MandyManners

Who are these fucks?

I guarantee you that they have wet dreams for Mearsheimer and Walt.

These are them:

VIPS is a group of former intelligence professionals of current and former US intelligence officials that was founded in 2003 to protest the use of faulty intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq. It is headed by former top officials from the CIA, State Department, Department of Deffense, US military and other agencies.

re: #224 reloadingisnotahobby

Vegas? ..or San Fransisco??
Vegas = HOT!!

Vegas, yeah I know its gonna be hot but my folks wanna go so were goin. Besides one of my older brothers lives there and they wanna see him. Don’t know why ;) just kidding, he’s a lot of fun and we spent a week with him last year so this ought to be a great trip. I hope.

re: #228 Dragon_Lady
Was there Friday the 29th….
“Bodies the Experience” is at the Luxor…
Just sayin,we didnt have time!

re: #218 Cannadian Club Akbar

I need a nap. Rouge, you are killing me. (so to speak).

Toss in the fact I was born in the middle of a riot and it’s in my blood. I have an almost uncontrollable urge to tip over cars and set them on fire.

re: #229 reloadingisnotahobby

Was there Friday the 29th…
“Bodies the Experience” is at the Luxor…
Just sayin,we didnt have time!

I have an inside tract to the Star Trek Convention that’s going on right now, my neighbors going to be there and he helps put on several private party’s going on for the celebs and I’m invited. I’m so excited I can barely stand it! I dug out my Star Trek T-shirts and pins and I’m going to go get some pics and autographs! Beam me up Scotty!

re: #231 Dragon_Lady

I have an inside tract to the Star Trek Convention that’s going on right now, my neighbors going to be there and he helps put on several private party’s going on for the celebs and I’m invited. I’m so excited I can barely stand it! I dug out my Star Trek T-shirts and pins and I’m going to go get some pics and autographs! Beam me up Scotty!

Are you going as the Green Alien Hotty!?!?!

//

re: #231 Dragon_Lady

Star Trek Convention??
Well,that explains some things I saw last weekend!!
LOL
Have fun!

re: #232 sattv4u2

Are you going as the Green Alien Hotty!?!?!

//

Nah, since RWC’s stayin’ home I won’t have a body guard so I’m just going as a devoted fan. I may buy some Vulcan ears though! ;)

I was bullied some as a kid but it wasn’t too bad. Most of my experience with bullies has been as an adult with college professors, bosses, etc. My people skills are very basic and I made a conscious choice to simply tolerate them and muddle along without changing my behavior and staying true to who I am as a person. I can put up with almost anything for a couple years.
I wouldn’t really recommend this method for most people. I’m not very social and I’m now self employed and work alone. The path of least resistance has served me pretty well.

re: #233 reloadingisnotahobby

Star Trek Convention??
Well,that explains some things I saw last weekend!!
LOL
Have fun!

Oh yeah, you can bet on that! If I get any good pics I’ll do a post on them.

Tie to go, see you all next week! Take care everyone!

re: #237 Dragon_Lady

Tie to go, see you all next week! Take care everyone!

Nobody wins in a tie.

Rush Limbaugh: Electric Cars are Overpriced AIDS Ribbons

Politico reports that Rush Limbaugh spent a huge chunk of yesterday’s radio broadcast lambasting the Chevy Volt and the tax credits supporting them. Through the course of his ranting, it became clear — as it so often does — that Limbaugh has no idea what he’s talking about. In it, he asserted that “nobody wants” electric cars, and that they amount to nothing more than overpriced AIDS ribbons that allow their owners to “show everybody how much better [they] are than everybody else.” How ignorant is Limbaugh? Let me count the ways.

re: #232 sattv4u2

I was suggesting Bajoran. Get a fancy earring and a bumpy nose. Easy!

re: #240 Rightwingconspirator

I was suggesting Bajoran. Get a fancy earring and a bumpy nose. Easy!

I already have that from years playing hockey!

re: #239 Killgore Trout

he asserted that “nobody wants” electric cars,

The assertion that “nobody wants them’ comes with a context

“nobody” (and no, not literally) wants them at the price they are asking for what they deliver (minimal mileage, costly battery replacements, performance i.e 0-60 in 8.5 seconds,, etc)

re: #242 sattv4u2

he asserted that “nobody wants” electric cars,

The assertion that “nobody wants them’ comes with a context

“nobody” (and no, not literally) wants them at the price they are asking for what they deliver (minimal mileage, costly battery replacements, performance i.e 0-60 in 8.5 seconds,, etc)

Now, a flying car, on the other hand.

Democrats are in a corner on the tax-cut debate, and they know it. If they follow President Obama’s plan and allow tax relief for the top earners to expire, they get blamed for the “biggest tax hike in American history.” But if they extend more than $3 trillion in tax cuts, most of them originally voted against in 2001, they get blamed for the biggest deficit in history. Sounds like fun.

interesting take on the conflict between letting the Bush tax cuts remain or expire…nobody seems to know for sure what will happen, but Fedzilla will do whatever it thinks will generate more feed

[Link: thehill.com…]

re: #244 albusteve

Even 40% of Republicans think letting the Bush tax cuts expire is a good thing. A few pundits wishing the Democrats into a corner doesn’t exactly put them there.

re: #244 albusteve

Democrats are in a corner on the tax-cut debate, and they know it. If they follow President Obama’s plan and allow tax relief for the top earners to expire, they get blamed for the “biggest tax hike in American history.” But if they extend more than $3 trillion in tax cuts, most of them originally voted against in 2001, they get blamed for the biggest deficit in history. Sounds like fun.

interesting take on the conflict between letting the Bush tax cuts remain or expire…nobody seems to know for sure what will happen, but Fedzilla will do whatever it thinks will generate more feed

[Link: thehill.com…]

But, but, but, tax cuts don’t pay for unicorns…

re: #242 sattv4u2

he asserted that “nobody wants” electric cars,

The assertion that “nobody wants them’ comes with a context

“nobody” (and no, not literally) wants them at the price they are asking for what they deliver (minimal mileage, costly battery replacements, performance i.e 0-60 in 8.5 seconds,, etc)

Some people will want them:

re: #245 darthstar

Even 40% of Republicans think letting the Bush tax cuts expire is a good thing. A few pundits wishing the Democrats into a corner doesn’t exactly put them there.

the article is informative, not partisan….and remember, republicans are so stupid they should not be allowed to vote eh?

re: #245 darthstar

Even 40% of Republicans think letting the Bush tax cuts expire is a good thing. A few pundits wishing the Democrats into a corner doesn’t exactly put them there.

huh??

I’ve seen Dems (Evan Bayh,, Kent Conrad,, etc) go on record for extending current rates

Just under a million Missouri voters braved 102-degree heat Tuesday to cast ballots exempting the state’s residents from Obamacare mandates. The verdict on the nationalized health care scheme could not have been more clear: More than 71 percent chose to tell the federal government to stop meddling with their personal health care choices.

proof, republicans are morons….correct?

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com…]

re: #244 albusteve

Found on the sidebar of your post:
[Link: thehill.com…]

Reid plans September showdown on extension of tax cuts

Senate Democrats will hold a September showdown over trillions of dollars in expiring tax cuts passed under President George W. Bush.

Senior Democrats had expected the controversial issue to be postponed until after the election, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) plans to bring it up when lawmakers return from a five-week August recess.

Reids leadership position might not make it until the election. He can’t possibly be that stupid can he?