Godspeed IDF.

Good! It's about damn time! Let's go IDF!

Dear IDF- don't stop until the mission is complete.

Good Hunting to the IDF's.

The idiot reporter on FNC just said he spent a lot of time with Hamas and they have a whole lot of IED's ready for the IDF. Time for a swift kick in the gonads for him.

It almost makes me think...

'And the IDF receives the handoff, they're at the 40...the 30...the 20...the 10'

yeah...we're at about the 10 now

I guess this is the Obama invasion. I still cannot figure the point, other than as a test and demonstration that they've learned some lessons since Lebanon. And now we will see if they have. My prayers go with them.

This is going to be the end of Hamas

Go get 'em, IDF.

Stay safe, but do the job!

Don't give in to international pressure, you are doing the right thing, for Israel, for the Palestinians, and for the world at large.

re: #1 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Godspeed IDF.

abosolutely, won't be walk in the park - shooters hiding behind baby carriages & all.

I don't want any talk of ceasing fire this time. Lebanon should be a good lesson that you don't make any gains by being nice in this neighborhood.

May G_d protect the brave soldiers of the IDF.

re: #6 Jetpilot1101

The idiot reporter on FNC just said he spent a lot of time with Hamas and they have a whole lot of IED's ready for the IDF. Time for a swift kick in the gonads for him.

Give him a break, he is a good guy. he is very pro israel and is just doing his job.

Time in Jerusalem.

re: #8 itellu3times

I guess this is the Obama invasion. I still cannot figure the point, other than as a test and demonstration that they've learned some lessons since Lebanon. And now we will see if they have. My prayers go with them.

I'm with you on that one. I hope they learned their lessons and I pray that none of the IDF forces are killed.

re: #9 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

This is going to be the end of Hamas

I pray you're right.

If anyone has become proficient at urban operations, it's the IDF. Good luck to them.

re: #14 Nevergiveup

Give him a break, he is a good guy. he is very pro israel and is just doing his job.

He just sounded a little too enthusiastic.

re: #9 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

This is going to be the end of Hamas

Oh, I hope so. With every fibre of my being, I hope so.

re: #6 Jetpilot1101

The idiot reporter on FNC just said he spent a lot of time with Hamas and they have a whole lot of IED's ready for the IDF. Time for a swift kick in the gonads for him.

Did he at least mark them on the map for the IDF?

I asked in the previous thread whether Israel has Amphibious Assault Vehicles.

Attacking Hamas from the sea and meeting the "main" force would be a nice change ...

Go IDF, let us hope this is a full sweep that will gather all weps, leaders, and destroy the terror network infrastructure.

re: #19 Jetpilot1101

He just sounded a little too enthusiastic.

He is in close proximity to a combat zone -actually with his back to it. I bet he is hyped up!

re: #21 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Did he at least mark them on the map for the IDF?

Let's hope he did so in private.

I expect there are US army observers with them, no telling just when our forces may be in similar situations.

Do well boys! ..God bless em, and keep them safe.

God be with them.

All my prayers, IDF.

May God keep you safe and give you the strength to defeat your enemies.

Re-post from thread below:

Israellycool is now blogging again - and the Beeb had some images earlier.
There was a three-hour news black-out, and the IDF says they IDF is going to take some of the launch positions from hamassholes in Northern Gaza.

re: #24 Nevergiveup

He is in close proximity to a combat zone -actually with his back to it. I bet he is hyped up!

Fair enough. I just hope he pointed out the positions to the IDF wen he got back.

Need to go, but one last word:

May God protect the IDF as they fight for their faith and their way of life.

Do it calm and professional, just like in training.
Godspeed!

re: #14 Nevergiveup

Give him a break, he is a good guy. he is very pro israel and is just doing his job.

Well, he was still being stupid with that line. I say we let him off with a SMACK! this time. If he does it again we can revisit the merits of ball-busting.

re: #18 SemperHunden

If anyone has become proficient at urban operations, it's the IDF. Good luck to them.

I hope so. I went through MOUT training in IOBC with a load of Lebanese (Mid-80's). We tried to ask them some for lesson learned from their experiences in Beruit. They refused to talk to us. Bastards, yet our country was paying for them to get our training.

May God protect the IDF and the innocent children.

re: #22 jwb7605

I asked in the previous thread whether Israel has Amphibious Assault Vehicles.

Attacking Hamas from the sea and meeting the "main" force would be a nice change ...

I'd rather hope that the Trophy Tank protection systems have been installed.

But good luck to the soldiers, stay safe, and know that all of Israel is with them.

good luck IDF... I support you!

re: #30 yma o hyd

Re-post from thread below:

Israellycool is now blogging again - and the Beeb had some images earlier.
There was a three-hour news black-out, and the IDF says they IDF is going to take some of the launch positions from hamassholes in Northern Gaza.

But what does that mean - "launch position" can be a back yard, a parking lot, the roof of a hospital.

All Lizards are now with the IDF.

Good luck to all of them.

Good luck guys, come home safe.

Interesting invading at night. I can't think of a ground assault BEGINNING at nighttime.

re: #26 itellu3times

I'm hoping so, our forces now have a wealth of experience fighting in "feral cities" that could aid.

Go get 'em IDF. Rid the world of Hamas.

re: #22 jwb7605

I asked in the previous thread whether Israel has Amphibious Assault Vehicles.

Attacking Hamas from the sea and meeting the "main" force would be a nice change ...

Israel has Amphibious capability and could use them for selective strikes. But it would make no sense to wage a large scale amphibious assault. Amphibious assaults are by nature inherently more dangerous. Israel's problem is not the initial assault, but finding and killing the enemy in an urban environment were the enemy is hiding amongst the populace.

re: #36 Ringo the Gringo

May God protect the IDF and the innocent children.

...all of the innocent.

re: #14 Nevergiveup

Give him a break, he is a good guy. he is very pro israel and is just doing his job.

How do you know that?

re: #3 Sharmuta

Dear IDF- don't stop until the mission is complete.

That needs to be said to the Cabinet.

/micro-managing bastards!

re: #23 Thanos

Go IDF, let us hope this is a full sweep that will gather all weps, leaders, and destroy the terror network infrastructure.

While that would be fantastic, it would probably require killing thousands of Gazans, and even at that would just be a good start...

I hope in these last weeks we have seen the sea change in the civilized world's attitude toward murdering islam.

Delenda.

re: #9 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

i hope so

re: #43 Thanos

I'm hoping so, our forces now have a wealth of experience fighting in "feral cities" that could aid.

You been reading Niven & Pournelle again?

As a prior military officer I pray they execute their plan flawlessly and with a minimum loss of life on the Israeli side.

May G-d watch over the IDF. This isn't going to be an easy mission.

re: #42 mini_burkha_fan

Interesting invading at night. I can't think of a ground assault BEGINNING at nighttime.

Didn't Moses do the very same? And won?

God speed boys...finish the job and come home safely.

re: #37 Manker

I'd rather hope that the Trophy Tank protection systems have been installed.

But good luck to the soldiers, stay safe, and know that all of Israel is with them.

What is that?
... and I hope more than Israel is with them. I know I'm with them.

re: #42 mini_burkha_fan

Interesting invading at night. I can't think of a ground assault BEGINNING at nighttime.

Modern Western Armies are capable of doing so... 7th Century barbarians can't see at night.

Makes great sense.

israeli consultate on twitter has also confirmed it - IT'S ON.

Godspeed IDF... fighting for the rest of us , against the barbarians of Islamofascism.

I hope Abu Abbas is taking note.

re: #42 mini_burkha_fan

Interesting invading at night. I can't think of a ground assault BEGINNING at nighttime.

Heh.

re: #60 MandyManners

I hope Abu Abbas is taking note.

I hope shortshit is.

re: #58 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think US forces began the OIF at night too (Early Dawn)

re: #47 Sharmuta

How do you know that?

I have been watching him for years and heard him interviewed by others on his experiences in covering combat situations.

re: #57 jwb7605

The Creator is with them.

re: #42 mini_burkha_fan

Interesting invading at night. I can't think of a ground assault BEGINNING at nighttime.

NVG's are a wonderful thing. I'm guessing each IDF soldier is equipped with a pair. I'm postulating that 1 out of 1000 Ham-assholes are equipped with a pair. You do the math on who is going to win at night.

re: #26 itellu3times

I expect there are US army observers with them, no telling just when our forces may be in similar situations.

interesting point. U.S advisers could also be there to give advice , based on experiences in the battle of Fallujah and other urban combat battles in Iraq.

re: #42 mini_burkha_fan

Interesting invading at night. I can't think of a ground assault BEGINNING at nighttime.

With NVGs, Western armies own the night.

re: #60 MandyManners

I hope Abu Abbas is taking note.

And I hope they find a way to reach into Syria and Lebanon and give Meshaal and Nasrallah the Mugniyeh treatment.

re: #39 itellu3times

But what does that mean - "launch position" can be a back yard, a parking lot, the roof of a hospital.

Yep.
So be prepared for the usual accusations of Israeli 'massacres', while the 'brave' hamassholes hide, as usual, behind children and women.

Using children and women as living shields is, btw a war crime.

/Not that moonbats will ever recognise that!

re: #57 jwb7605

Trophy Tank protection system:
[Link: defense-update.com...]

re: #64 Nevergiveup

How do you know he's pro-Israel?

I would like to see all press coverage cease inside Gaza proper and their sevices shit down....seems approriate as there will be some ugly stuff goin down very soon...why does the IDF allow this?

re: #52 itellu3times

You been reading Niven & Pournelle again?

Actually some moonbat mil/intel analysts from London who stole the concept, without understanding the complex factors that create them.

The Muqata is live blogging.

re: #72 Sharmuta

How do you know he's pro-Israel?

re: #47 Sharmuta

How do you know that?

I have been watching him for years and heard him interviewed by others on his experiences in covering combat situations.

Let the smiting begin.

May they be watched over and come home safely in victory.

re: #18 SemperHunden

I imagine the Israelis could learn more from the current US military regarding urban combat than the other way around. We have had a lot of experience learning the hard way as of late.

re: #63 winston06

I think US forces began the OIF at night too (Early Dawn)

0400 local time, a bit earlier for some troops, including some SEAL activity.

re: #66 Jetpilot1101

NVG's are a wonderful thing. I'm guessing each IDF soldier is equipped with a pair. I'm postulating that 1 out of 1000 Ham-assholes are equipped with a pair. You do the math on who is going to win at night.

it's the only time to move

re: #58 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, Western Armies all have NVGs, but I still can't think of examples of ground invasion at night.

re: #57 jwb7605

What is that?
... and I hope more than Israel is with them. I know I'm with them.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Basically an automated shot gun that can stop anti-tank weapons (either the advanced missiles, RPGs, or whatever other projectile launched to harm an armored vehicle.)

re: #73 albusteve

Shielding the media (and the world) from the REAL end results of Islamofascism hasn't worked.
PR is important, but sometimes reality is called for.

re: #66 Jetpilot1101

NVG's are a wonderful thing. I'm guessing each IDF soldier is equipped with a pair. I'm postulating that 1 out of 1000 Ham-assholes are equipped with a pair. You do the math on who is going to win at night.

Plus the air and armored support will have NV systems as well. To a modern army, night operations are a bonus not a hindrance

re: #19 Jetpilot1101

He just sounded a little too enthusiastic.

He's a reporter, and he's got a relevant story. They get a little mono-focused.

re: #78 SaneInMN

I imagine the Israelis could learn more from the current US military regarding urban combat than the other way around. We have had a lot of experience learning the hard way as of late.

exactly. The U.S. military has had a TON of hard , tough, urban combat experience in Iraq.. invaluable experience to share with the IDF.

i wouldnt be surprised if there's a few U.S. Iraq veterans going in right now in IDF uniforms, as advisers...

Do we have a pool yet on when the first manufactured "atrocity" al la the "Jenin Massacre" will be reported? I'm sure we won't have long to wait.

re: #63 winston06

I think US forces began the OIF at night too (Early Dawn)

Just prior to twilight dates back hundreds of years... why armies stand to just before dawn (much to the chagrin of privates everywhere).

Doing it right after it becomes pitch black requires intensive training and some really fancy equipment. For example, the Germans in WW2 (plenty experienced and well trained) were loath to fight at night.

Prayers for the brave soldiers of the IDF going in.

Compare their bravery to that of the moonbats who 'protest' in front of israeli embassies and think attacking the police is 'brave'.

The houses of three Hamas commanders in #Gaza bombed in the last hour. 8 minutes ago from web

Godspeed IDF.

Does anyone think that Israel's timing has anything to do with our impending change in leadership? (If you don't? Ha -- wake up.)

They are certain that the BHO bus will be on top of them before you know it.

Rain rockets? Reap your rewards!

re: #87 Iron Fist

Do we have a pool yet on when the first manufactured "atrocity" al la the "Jenin Massacre" will be reported? I'm sure we won't have long to wait.

Waiting for the first stuffed animal found in the rubble pic

At this time I would just like to encourage all Lizards to keep an eye on their respective neck of the woods. Since this is a global community and the day's after 'friday' in particular along with what is going on in Gaza, I have a feeling that there is most definitely going to be spillover of terrorism popping up now.

Stay alert.

re: #81 mini_burkha_fan

Yes, Western Armies all have NVGs, but I still can't think of examples of ground invasion at night.

Iraq 2 kicked off at night , didnt it? Shock and awe was at night, followed by jump off by armoured divisions.

also remember the sea landings by british commandos - lots of night vision film showing them firing at an iraqi position.

Mustafa Barghouti on FOX now. Gagging time.

I hate that brave young men and women sacrifice for political stupidity.

ISRAEL!

re: #83 Lincolntf

Shielding the media (and the world) from the REAL end results of Islamofascism hasn't worked.
PR is important, but sometimes reality is called for.

I dont like any media in a combat zone...very little good can come of it...with respect mon...

All the best luck to the IDF. Godspeed.
May all of our brothers in arms return safely.
And good riddance of the Hamassholes.

CNN has some live coverage. Haven't been able to find any others:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #81 mini_burkha_fan

Yes, Western Armies all have NVGs, but I still can't think of examples of ground invasion at night.

You have to be Western, well-equipped, and expertly trained to pull it off. Otherwise you have the world's greatest CF and a lot of Blue on Blue fires.

May God protect the brave IDF soldiers ... our prayers are with them.

re: #62 Sharmuta

I hope shortshit is.

And getting no sleep.

re: #93 Oh no...Sand People!

At this time I would just like to encourage all Lizards to keep an eye on their respective neck of the woods. Since this is a global community and the day's after 'friday' in particular along with what is going on in Gaza, I have a feeling that there is most definitely going to be spillover of terrorism popping up now.

Stay alert.

good advice.

and if you have Jewish friends or neighbours, look out for them. i'm sure they can look after themselves of course, but now might be a time to just watch out for them and offer any help.

re: #92 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Waiting for the first stuffed animal found in the rubble pic

no doubt they are stashed and ready for action!

Sweep Hamas, destroy the infrastructure and the evil.
Keep your heads low and your powder dry....
I pray for each IDF soldier's safety and for them to remain strong and courageous.

Beeb reports that helicopters are also involved, machinegun fire has been heard, and sound from naval vessels have also been heard.

8:53 PM IDF starts massive military call up of reserve forces, (Emergency Call up #8 (Tzav-8.) (This information permitted by IDF censor). Close to 9000 reserve soldiers permitted to be called up by last week's government decision.

re: #82 Manker

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Basically an automated shot gun that can stop anti-tank weapons (either the advanced missiles, RPGs, or whatever other projectile launched to harm an armored vehicle.)

Absolutely fascinating!
Yup. Hope everything is equipped. Sounds like the most effective solution I've seen.

re: #69 Salamantis

And I hope they find a way to reach into Syria and Lebanon and give Meshaal and Nasrallah the Mugniyeh treatment.

What's that?

CNN has a Chief Palestinian Negotiator from the West Bank on their internet stream.

Ugh...ridiculous...

For the Hebrew speakers amongst us you can hear updates here or get the news in readable English: galgalatz

re: #103 MandyManners

And getting no sleep.

I was going to hope he'd run out of clean underwear.

re: #96 jemima

It will not be a wasted sacrifice if the IDF seriously curtails the ability of HAMAS to kill Israeli civilians (and any other non-believers, for that matter).

I don't think this is the big push. The IDF spokewoman is saying that it is to clear the northern parts of Gaza of launching pads.

Meanwhile Hamas just lost another leader, Abu Zakaria al-Jamal.

I expect that the IDf will seal the Northern Border first and then turn towards Egypt with teh house to house roach hunt coming a few days from now.

Maybe a solid ground invasion that leads to the dismemberment of Hamas will be the straw that breaks the back of the rest of the populace and they will turn against the terrorists and actually strive for a lasting peace.

re: #109 MandyManners

What's that?

Car bomb goes boom and terrorist goes dead

Directly from the IDF website, "Second stage of Operation Cast Lead begins"
[Link: dover.idf.il...]

re: #75 yma o hyd

The Muqata is live blogging.

Good link. Thanks.

The Israelis tried turning Gaza over to the Palestinians in exchange for international agreements. That failed.

Time to re-occupy the territory, and arrest or kill the Hamas operatives. I'd suggest negotiating with Egypt or Jordan to grant citizenship to Gaza residents, permitting them to depart for Egypt or Jordan.

Will it work? Only if Egypt or Jordan agree.

They should seize and hold a few of the more thinly-populated parts of Gaza
and not even *discuss* withdrawal till Gilad Shalit is freed.

Erakat is on CNN..what a jerk! This can't be solved by military actions..we have no army, navy ect..He forgot the mention 8 years of rockets.
GO IDF! MAY GOD GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO BECOME VICTORIOUS !

re: #114 Quilly Mammoth

I don't think this is the big push. The IDF spokewoman is saying that it is to clear the northern parts of Gaza of launching pads.

Meanwhile Hamas just lost another leader, Abu Zakaria al-Jamal.

I expect that the IDf will seal the Northern Border first and then turn towards Egypt with teh house to house roach hunt coming a few days from now.

I suspect you are exactly right...a slow and cautious movement south to let the population swell at the Philly corridor....

Honestly, I don't want or need a blow by blow account of this.
All I need is a statement that "after X days of fighting, Hamas and affiliates have ceased to exist".
As far as world opinion goes, a rope and urine comes to mind.

re: #119 quickjustice

The Israelis tried turning Gaza over to the Palestinians in exchange for international agreements. That failed.

Time to re-occupy the territory, and arrest or kill the Hamas operatives. I'd suggest negotiating with Egypt or Jordan to grant citizenship to Gaza residents, permitting them to depart for Egypt or Jordan.

Will it work? Only if Egypt or Jordan agree.

The Cubs will win the World Series before Egypt or Jordan ever agrees to that!

re: #92 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Waiting for the first stuffed animal found in the rubble pic

Did you see the pristine Santa card in the rubble posted here the other day? Yeah. Santa in Gaza.

re: #119 quickjustice

The Israelis tried turning Gaza over to the Palestinians in exchange for international agreements. That failed.

Time to re-occupy the territory, and arrest or kill the Hamas operatives. I'd suggest negotiating with Egypt or Jordan to grant citizenship to Gaza residents, permitting them to depart for Egypt or Jordan.

Will it work? Only if Egypt or Jordan agree.

Publicly, with as much press coverage as possible.
(Smoke everybody out)

re: #109 MandyManners

What's that?

Imad Mugniyeh was assassinated by a car bomb in Syria.

I wish the IDF well in their mission.

Urban warfare sucks. Especially when (like the U.S.) the soldiers on the ground are taking such extraordinary measures to not harm innocents.

I wish people understood how easy it would be for Israel to absolutely destroy Hamas and their followers if they truly didn't care about causing unnecessary death and destruction. I wish people understood how much restraint is being shown by the IDF and the US Armed Forces in not bringing the full weight of our weaponry to bear.

re: #112 Sharmuta

I was going to hope he'd run out of clean underwear.

Psychopaths don't scare.

Berlin's Holocaust Memorial Vandalized.

Berlin police say vandals have daubed swastikas on some of the slabs that make up the German capital's Holocaust memorial.

This guy Mustafa is a one horse pony. Same sob story for any question

re: #115 Jetpilot1101

Maybe a solid ground invasion that leads to the dismemberment of Hamas will be the straw that breaks the back of the rest of the populace and they will turn against the terrorists and actually strive for a lasting peace.

That is my fervent hope.

re: #123 irongrampa

And simple capillary action does not qualify as success.

re: #119 quickjustice

The Israelis tried turning Gaza over to the Palestinians in exchange for international agreements. That failed.

Time to re-occupy the territory, and arrest or kill the Hamas operatives. I'd suggest negotiating with Egypt or Jordan to grant citizenship to Gaza residents, permitting them to depart for Egypt or Jordan.

Will it work? Only if Egypt or Jordan agree.

Israel, per se, doesn't want to "occupy" gaza, she just wants the daily barrage of rockets and missiles to stop and life to become what should be normal with secure borders. Enough is enough. She is cleaning the sewer as it was. I'm tired of the daily booms and whizes and pings those things make and having family hunkered in bomb shelters. Feh!

re: #117 CapeCoddah

Directly from the IDF website, "Second stage of Operation Cast Lead begins"
[Link: dover.idf.il...]

Operation Cast Lead?

I like, good name.

Kill the Hamas Rabbit. Cure the Demented Sara.

re: #116 Nevergiveup

Car bomb goes boom and terrorist goes dead

I don't like car bombs. I'd prefer a bullet between the eyes for them.

The european scum is taking the streets with anti-israel protests these days, several thousands in several german cities. Saw a sign in a TV report saying "Israel is playing the eternal victim". Utterly disgusting, these idiots deserve to be bombed by Islamists in their lifetime so that their bigotry will be silenced forever.

May the IDF be as strong at wiping out Hamas as the international outcry about operation Cast Lead.

Give 'em hell (and those 72 virgins), guys!

re: #134 bj

Israel, per se, doesn't want to "occupy" gaza, she just wants the daily barrage of rockets and missiles to stop and life to become what should be normal with secure borders. Enough is enough. She is cleaning the sewer as it was. I'm tired of the daily booms and whizes and pings those things make and having family hunkered in bomb shelters. Feh!

That is another problem and it's name is Egypt, right Condi?

re: #88 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think the air cover is a necessary thing in ground combat to happen during the day light but since Hamas has no air assets, it means IDF could go in without much air cover. I want IDF to win

re: #137 MandyManners

I don't like car bombs. I'd prefer a bullet between the eyes for them.

It was poetic justice for the mastermind of the Beirut US Embassy and Marine Barracks truckbombings.

re: #127 Salamantis

Imad Mugniyeh was assassinated by a car bomb in Syria.

Oh, that little fucker.

re: #130 Quilly Mammoth

The swastikas are there to imply that native Germans desecrated the Memorial rather than the Muslims who do it on a regular basis. Muslim disinformation designed to show that Jews are causing civil unrest.

re: #137 MandyManners

I don't like car bombs. I'd prefer a bullet between the eyes for them.

That is not always possible when the game you are hunting is in the capitol of an enemy.

re: #124 Nevergiveup

As a long-time Yankees fan, I'll start rooting for the Cubbies if that works! The only other strategy is occupation, eventual Israeli-supervised elections for local offices, and partial integration, meaning the Israelis control the infrastructure, local school systems, etc., until the Palestinians are ready for their own state, or for integration into one of the surrounding Arab-majority states.

re: #138 000G

Germans... anti-Israel... who knew? You'd think traits like that would have come out before... oh wait... nevermind.

re: #142 Salamantis

It was poetic justice for the mastermind of the Beirut US Embassy and Marine Barracks truckbombings.

Amen

re: #132 MandyManners

That is my fervent hope.

It would only take the Gazans to do this and the rest of the terrorist infrastructure would begin to fall like dominos. Id love to see Gaza go anti-terrorist followed by the West Bank. It won't be easy but a small trickle could turn into a flood that could sweep away large swaths of terrorism away from the civilized world and marginalize radical Islam.

I haven't been able to post much here lately, but GO IDF!

This course of action should've been taken a long time ago!

I can't but wonder if Israel realizes that they may not be able to depend on US support under 0bama and the Dem congress, so they're just going ahead with what they need to do.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Palestinians are about to realize that, not only did the US support Israel, we also restrained them. Without that restraint, well . . .

Good Afternoon Lizards!

IDF, wishing you a safe return.
Hamas, say hello to Achmed.

The Chief Palestinian Negotiator on CNN is getting heated. The anchorwoman keeps pushing that he has no control over Hamas.

It's actually kind of funny because he isn't saying anything.

Someone reproting for the Beeb from inside gaza, saying that hamassholes can fire rockets from gaza City.
IDF is only about 500m inside Gaza, he said, and there is a curfew on.
Oh - and he is peddling the lies that everybody is starving in Gaza ...

Looks like the hamasholes have been thieving all the tons of food Israel has been seding in during the last week.

Israeli airstikes in the South are continuing.

re: #142 Salamantis

It was poetic justice for the mastermind of the Beirut US Embassy and Marine Barracks truckbombings.

I remembered when I saw his full name.

I tried watching CNN and FOX, but I couldn't stick around more than a couple minutes because I was getting too angry. I don't want to hear what some Palestinian propagandist has to say, or hear a CNN anchoress say that the ground invasion is what Palestinians want so Israel can get bogged down, or hear anchors in general talk like they have the slightest idea about anything regarding military operations. I'll just stick to the internet for my news.

From The Muqtada site:

Prayer for the Welfare of Soldiers in the Israel Defense Forces

May He who blessed our fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, bless the soldiers
of the Israel Defense Forces who keep guard over our country and cities of
our Lord from the border with Lebanon to the Egyptian desert and from the
Mediterranean Sea to the approach to the Arava, be they on land, air or sea.

May the Almighty deliver us our enemies who arise against us, may the Holy
One, blessed be He, preserve them and save them from all sorrow and peril,
from danger and ill.

May He send blessing and success in all their endeavors, may He deliver to
them those who hate us and crown them with salvation and victory, so that
the saying may be fulfilled through them, "For the Lord, your God, who walks
with you and to fight your enemies for you and to save you", and let us say,
Amen.

Link...

re: #141 winston06

I think the air cover is a necessary thing in ground combat to happen during the day light but since Hamas has no air assets, it means IDF could go in without much air cover. I want IDF to win

I'm sure they have plenty of air cover at night, too.

Laser designators work, night or day.

The IDF must complete all objectives by January 20th.

Good luck IDF!

re: #141 winston06

I think the air cover is a necessary thing in ground combat to happen during the day light but since Hamas has no air assets, it means IDF could go in without much air cover. I want IDF to win

Close air support, day and night, saves lives on the ground.
Night vision systems mean that Israeli air is up there as I type this.

re: #26 itellu3times

I believe Israel and the US share notes from their various experiences fighting Hezbollah, Hamas, the Mahdi Army, and various other insurgents from Israel to Lebanon to Iraq to Afghanistan. I'm glad the IDF are rolling up their sleeves and getting dirty to clean out that pack of vermin in Gaza. God speed IDF.

re: #13 ornery elephant

May G_d protect the brave soldiers of the IDF.

Is G_d code for something?

re: #155 SemperHunden

What's an anchoress?

re: #135 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Operation Cast Lead?

I like, good name.

Based on a hannukah song, of a dreidel made of cast lead.

re: #162 MandyManners

What's an anchoress?

An anchor for a female ship. Duh.

re: #161 AuntAcid

Is G_d code for something?

the dyslexic dog.

re: #147 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Germans... anti-Israel... who knew? You'd think traits like that would have come out before... oh wait... nevermind.

Yeah, it's not surprising. Still, it's kinda scary. Back in the 70s, the protests against Israeli military action were mostly coordinated by the soviet-sponsored leftist organizations, today the consensus to condemn Israel seems to be broader.

Also: Heh on the down-ding there.

re: #161 AuntAcid

Is G_d code for something?

Yes.

re: #156 ornery elephant

Sorry, that should be "From the Muqata site".

re: #163 Joo-LiZ

Based on a hannukah song, of a dreidel made of cast lead.

Even more excellent (My bad, not personally Jewish...).

10,000 more soldiers being called up. #Gaza #GazaWar 2 minutes ago from web

re: #158 Abu Boo Boo

The IDF must complete all objectives by January 20th.

Good luck IDF!

Obama won't be able to affect anything the IDF does. He isn't a friend of Israel and most folks are beginning to realize that. Israel will be condemned by the rest of the world no matter what so adding his voice is just more noise to them. I also don't think he'll have the stomach to cut funding for Israel. Even if HE does, Congress won't because votes for them depend on supporting Israel. Sorry Mr. Obama but you're pretty much screwed on this one.

re: #162 MandyManners

What's an anchoress?

Possibly ill-advised wordplay...

re: #157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'm sure they have plenty of air cover at night, too.

Laser designators work, night or day.

GPS works anytime. No need to lase a target.

re: #164 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I despise esses and ettes and ettas.

Rant over.

re: #162 MandyManners

What's an anchoress?

|Here's one|:

[Link: theanchoressonline.com...]

re: #162 MandyManners

What's an anchoress?

Classically, a female religious who lives in isolation, usually in a small cell, and does not participate in the usual life of her convent.

I wonder if the IDF will have videos of this on Youtube.

re: #161 AuntAcid

It's a Jewish thing.

re: #171 Jetpilot1101

Obama won't be able to affect anything the IDF does. He isn't a friend of Israel and most folks are beginning to realize that. Israel will be condemned by the rest of the world no matter what so adding his voice is just more noise to them. I also don't think he'll have the stomach to cut funding for Israel. Even if HE does, Congress won't because votes for them depend on supporting Israel. Sorry Mr. Obama but you're pretty much screwed on this one.

From your keyboard to God's ears. Let's hope he is screwed on more issues than this one.

Man - it's quite the sound show going on. Lot's of booms, automated weapons fire, helicopters......

One thing that is interesting is the almost total lack of return fire coming our way.

We had one red alert earlier around 5:00 pm or so, and nothing since. I really had been expecting them to light off as much as they could once to troops went in (use it or lose it)

G-d bless our boys and girls in the IDF and preserve them from harm.

And most importantly, let's kick some @ss!

John - 6 kilometers due east of Gaza

re: #162 MandyManners

What's an anchoress?

During the Middle Ages, it meant a holy woman residing in a cell in a church. (Julian of Norwich)

/I'm sure that's more than you wanted to know, but couldn't resist .. :D

Didn't mean to drift the thread.

re: #130 Quilly Mammoth

Berlin's Holocaust Memorial Vandalized.

I'd guess that this wasn't done by Neo-Nazis or native Germans.

Shit, work has called again, problems again at the worst time. The past three days haven't been real pleasant here. I'll try to keep up with this in the background.

re: #180 jonbenjon

Man - it's quite the sound show going on. Lot's of booms, automated weapons fire, helicopters......

One thing that is interesting is the almost total lack of return fire coming our way.

We had one red alert earlier around 5:00 pm or so, and nothing since. I really had been expecting them to light off as much as they could once to troops went in (use it or lose it)

G-d bless our boys and girls in the IDF and preserve them from harm.

And most importantly, let's kick some @ss!

John - 6 kilometers due east of Gaza

God Bless. Stay safe. Thank you for the update.

re: #173 jcm

You kids and your fancy toys.

(Actually, the only problem with GPS is the need to relay the target coords... a grunt with a laser can paint the right house across the street without either knowing the coords or having to transmit or encode them.)

re: #182 MandyManners

Didn't mean to drift the thread.

We'd already discussed options and started flaming each other on the previous thread. We're ready to drift.

re: #182 MandyManners

Didn't mean to drift the thread.

No problem. We were well anchored.

And now local news are reporting that Olmert has said in a closed meeting with cabinet members that the goal of the ground incursion is to get rid of hamas entirely... It appears we're heading into another occupation of gaza, which makes sense due to the incredible amount of reservists being recruited today.
tsk tsk..

re: #180 jonbenjon

Man - it's quite the sound show going on. Lot's of booms, automated weapons fire, helicopters......

One thing that is interesting is the almost total lack of return fire coming our way.

We had one red alert earlier around 5:00 pm or so, and nothing since. I really had been expecting them to light off as much as they could once to troops went in (use it or lose it)

G-d bless our boys and girls in the IDF and preserve them from harm.

And most importantly, let's kick some @ss!

John - 6 kilometers due east of Gaza

Watch to the North, watch to the North, any big replies or ripostes will come from there.

re: #189 Venflon

And now local news are reporting that Olmert has said in a closed meeting with cabinet members that the goal of the ground incursion is to get rid of hamas entirely... It appears we're heading into another occupation of gaza, which makes sense due to the incredible amount of reservists being recruited today.
tsk tsk..

Interesting

G*speed and good hunting IDF!

re: #177 MandyManners

I wonder if the IDF will have videos of this on Youtube.

Yes, for 5 minutes. Then the video will be flagged by the terrorist-supporting robots, and subsequently removed.

re: #182 MandyManners

Didn't mean to drift the thread.

Thank can happen when not dropping anchor-ess.

re: #93 Oh no...Sand People!

At this time I would just like to encourage all Lizards to keep an eye on their respective neck of the woods. Since this is a global community and the day's after 'friday' in particular along with what is going on in Gaza, I have a feeling that there is most definitely going to be spillover of terrorism popping up now.

Stay alert.

Repost from downthread:

In Paris, 20,000 + Pro Pali demonstration degenerates, approximately 200 'uncontrolled elements' attempt to storm Israeli Embassy and are beaten back by riot police. Shops and cars torched, injuries on both sides.

Come what may, we'll always have Paris....

/shit

re: #171 Jetpilot1101

Obama won't be able to affect anything the IDF does. He isn't a friend of Israel and most folks are beginning to realize that. Israel will be condemned by the rest of the world no matter what so adding his voice is just more noise to them. I also don't think he'll have the stomach to cut funding for Israel. Even if HE does, Congress won't because votes for them depend on supporting Israel. Sorry Mr. Obama but you're pretty much screwed on this one.

I tend to agree...and there may be fallout from mishandling this and some sort of a domino effect...at least I hope so

re: #180 jonbenjon

Man - it's quite the sound show going on. Lot's of booms, automated weapons fire, helicopters......

One thing that is interesting is the almost total lack of return fire coming our way.

We had one red alert earlier around 5:00 pm or so, and nothing since. I really had been expecting them to light off as much as they could once to troops went in (use it or lose it)

G-d bless our boys and girls in the IDF and preserve them from harm.

And most importantly, let's kick some @ss!

John - 6 kilometers due east of Gaza

THANKS for the report.

stay in touch - and god bless the IDF!

buzzdroid - in the UK.

re: #180 jonbenjon

Thank you for your report - and keep safe, as we're praying for the safety of the IDF soldiers, and of all of Israel.

(Erm - just saying that I'm effen proud of what you all and the IDF has been doing in the last week!)

re: #180 jonbenjon

Return fire gives away your position. Right now I expect that the Mohammedan terrorists are hunkering down trying to stay close enough to their human shields to stay alive until Israel is forced to withdraw because of "world opinion". The Palestinians are winning the propaganda war. It remains to be seen if that will be sufficient for them to win the larger war.

re: #189 Venflon

And now local news are reporting that Olmert has said in a closed meeting with cabinet members that the goal of the ground incursion is to get rid of hamas entirely... It appears we're heading into another occupation of gaza, which makes sense due to the incredible amount of reservists being recruited today.
tsk tsk..

Let's hope the devils up in the Bekaa Valley and their puppet masters in Tehran don't start getting any ideas in their pointy little heads.

re: #179 Crimsonfisted

From your keyboard to God's ears. Let's hope he is screwed on more issues than this one.

I hope he's screwed on pretty much all of his policies. But if he does get a few of them through, I hope the American people wake up and in two years vote the jacktards out of office. I'm guessing it won't take much more economic pain before normal people are sick and tired of oppressive government and higher taxes. Just look at them trying to raise the gas tax by 50%. Good luck with that one morons, will you never learn?

re: #189 Venflon

And now local news are reporting that Olmert has said in a closed meeting with cabinet members that the goal of the ground incursion is to get rid of hamas entirely... It appears we're heading into another occupation of gaza, which makes sense due to the incredible amount of reservists being recruited today.
tsk tsk..

Go all the way, or don't waste the lives on half-measures.

re: #174 MandyManners

I despise esses and ettes and ettas.

Rant over.

rantesse, rantette...hehe
(i hope you can't hit a moving target)

re: #180 jonbenjon

Man - it's quite the sound show going on. Lot's of booms, automated weapons fire, helicopters......

One thing that is interesting is the almost total lack of return fire coming our way.

We had one red alert earlier around 5:00 pm or so, and nothing since. I really had been expecting them to light off as much as they could once to troops went in (use it or lose it)

G-d bless our boys and girls in the IDF and preserve them from harm.

And most importantly, let's kick some @ss!

John - 6 kilometers due east of Gaza

Be safe John..

jonbenjon

Thank you for your report - please stay safe!

re: #189 Venflon

And now local news are reporting that Olmert has said in a closed meeting with cabinet members that the goal of the ground incursion is to get rid of hamas entirely... It appears we're heading into another occupation of gaza, which makes sense due to the incredible amount of reservists being recruited today.
tsk tsk..

I'm not convinced an occupation would necessarily look the same way as it did in the past.

If the occupation occurs with the goal of helping the Palestinians, it may not be so bad.

re: #200 Desert Dog

Let's hope the devils up in the Bekaa Valley and their puppet masters in Tehran don't start getting any ideas in their pointy little heads.

I would be shocked if they did not react.

MSM reports on IDF "massacre" of Pallywooders , complete with Santa claus cards , Green Helmet Guy and teddy bears in 5...4...3...2....

re: #158 Abu Boo Boo

The IDF must complete all objectives by January 20th.

Good luck IDF!

Well, maybe the horse will learn to sing and Obama will have learned and accepted why Israel has to do things like this. Not likely, but I hope so.

re: #200 Desert Dog

Let's hope the devils up in the Bekaa Valley and their puppet masters in Tehran don't start getting any ideas in their pointy little heads.

They will attack. Sad to say, but they will. Israel must be ready for a wider war.

re: #201 Jetpilot1101

I hope he's screwed on pretty much all of his policies. But if he does get a few of them through, I hope the American people wake up and in two years vote the jacktards out of office. I'm guessing it won't take much more economic pain before normal people are sick and tired of oppressive government and higher taxes. Just look at them trying to raise the gas tax by 50%. Good luck with that one morons, will you never learn?

I hope so. I was encouraged when he was elected and gun sales skyrocketed. Didn't that clue him and his minions in that something was rotten in Washington?

re: #189 Venflon

I hope and pray that an occupation isn't necessary. A good firm sweeping is what the place needs, but I don't think it would do much good to stick around and try to take care of these folks afterward.

IDF and the political leadership are, if anything, too sensitive to the needs of the civilians in the area of operations though, so I suppose that might be on the agenda after all.

Still, I'll say this for any moonbats out there - with IDF in charge and on the ground, Gaza will be a damned sight cleaner, safer, and better served than when Hamas were running the place. We can expect to see working electricity, infrastructure upgrades, and a sharp decline in the petty thuggery that typified Hamas rule.

May the L-rd bless and keep the IDF and those they protect.

re: #188 pre-Boomer Marine brat

No problem. We were well anchored.

Moe Howard :Weigh Ancher...

Larry Fine and Curley Howard: About 12 and a half pounds...

re: #202 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Go all the way, or don't waste the lives on half-measures.

In for a penny, in for a pound....If Olmert announces that as his goal and then stops short...he will have achieved the exact opposite of what he wanted...Hamas will gain in status and strength....They have to go in there and stop this nonsense once and for all.

re: #178 Killgore Trout

It's a Jewish thing.

Th__k y_o

The Hamas nazi Palis have turned Gaza into a hell hole. Everything the hate cult touches turns to rancid putridity.

I'm hoping for a short stay in the Gaza sewers for the IDF. That place is a mosquito-infected hell. Just kick some @ss and get the hell out.

re: #174 MandyManners

I despise esses and ettes and ettas.

Rant over.

You don't like etta's? Like Etta James? LOL

These good guys/gals may get a little hungry takin' out those Hamas pukes. Send em' a pizza or two. It aint' easy takin' out terrorist rat bastards on an empty stomache.

Your text to link...

re: #213 Dustyvet

Moe Howard :Weigh Ancher...

Larry Fine and Curley Howard: About 12 and a half pounds...

Ohh... a wise guy, eh? Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck!

God Bless Isreal!

re: #200 Desert Dog

Let's hope the devils up in the Bekaa Valley and their puppet masters in Tehran don't start getting any ideas in their pointy little heads.

they are in a world of hurt right now...they are damned if they do and damned if they dont...do they hve the guts to sucker punch the IDF...doubtful...will Iran lean on them to do something...maybe...how's their cash holding out?...very interesting

re: #93 Oh no...Sand People!

At this time I would just like to encourage all Lizards to keep an eye on their respective neck of the woods. Since this is a global community and the day's after 'friday' in particular along with what is going on in Gaza, I have a feeling that there is most definitely going to be spillover of terrorism popping up now.

Stay alert.

* * *

Fox News Cable yesterday showed gazillion Hamas supporters protesting --in Barack Obama's hometown of Chicago! Who would have thunk it?

re: #215 AuntAcid

Th__k y_o

You are so bad!
:)

sky news : three pronged attack - north, south and centre (at gaza city)

re: #214 Desert Dog

In for a penny, in for a pound....If Olmert announces that as his goal and then stops short...he will have achieved the exact opposite of what he wanted...Hamas will gain in status and strength....They have to go in there and stop this nonsense once and for all.

And none of this "Hamas on the ropes... give them a cease-fire" shit, either.

I just love that reporter on Fox. "no one knows when they will strike. the children are so afraid". But when it is Jews dying, that is just nagging. And as for rocket hits on Israeli schools? Yawn. Fuck all you Gazans. Payback is a bitch.

Gawd, I loathe these female talking heads of the Beeb in Israel - the one just spouted all the threats of the hamassholes, like how they're going to open hell for the IDF - practically salivating at that image.

*spit*

... as if the IDF has done nothing in the last week to limit the 'military' capabilities of the hamasthugs!

JonBenJon, you're that close? be safe and keep us updated.

Today we are all Israelis (well, most of us sane people.)

Good Luck & GodSpeed. Remove the hamas cancer once & for all.

I just hope people in the know, have been keeping track of where and who has been vocal, in support of hamas.

Interesting (and sickening) just how many terrorist sympathizers there are out there.

Just wait until rockets fall on their families house, until they wise up!

re: #220 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ohh... a wise guy, eh? Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck!

I tried to think once, nothing happened...

Curly Howard

Must win... before 20 Jan 09 when the rug gets pulled out from under them.

re: #213 Dustyvet

Moe Howard :Weigh Ancher...

Larry Fine and Curley Howard: About 12 and a half pounds...

And how do you judge the size of a fish?
Look at his scales.

re: #195 ryannon

Repost from downthread:

In Paris, 20,000 + Pro Pali demonstration degenerates, approximately 200 'uncontrolled elements' attempt to storm Israeli Embassy and are beaten back by riot police. Shops and cars torched, injuries on both sides.

Come what may, we'll always have Paris....

/shit

All's quiet in my little part of the World unless there are small demonstrations in Bolder, CO and the various campuses across Denver, CO but I haven't heard of any. Can any other residents verify.

re: #223 alegrias

And in my own country, yet. Oh, well, good luck to them, I suppose, but they should keep their noses clean and their mouths shut.

re: #206 Joo-LiZ

I'm not convinced an occupation would necessarily look the same way as it did in the past.

If the occupation occurs with the goal of helping the Palestinians, it may not be so bad.

With the Palestinians the way they are now, how is "helping" the Palestinians significantly different than losing the war? The Palestinians in Hamasistan voted Hamas in. By now, any Palestinians that don't support Hamas have either fled or been killed by Hamas. There may be a few holdouts somewhere in Gaza, but they are the real tiny minority. They aren't going to be able to effect how Hamasistan is ran.

re: #227 pat

I just love that reporter on Fox. "no one knows when they will strike. the children are so afraid". But when it is Jews dying, that is just nagging. And as for rocket hits on Israeli schools? Yawn. Fuck all you Gazans. Payback is a bitch.

That was a NYT reporter. (on Fox)

re: #227 pat

I just love that reporter on Fox. "no one knows when they will strike. the children are so afraid". But when it is Jews dying, that is just nagging. And as for rocket hits on Israeli schools? Yawn. Fuck all you Gazans. Payback is a bitch.

and bear in mind that it was Gazans that were celebrating when 9/11 happened -dancing in the street and handing out candy...

yeah - payback sure as hell is a bitch.

re: #230 MikeyHunt

He Mikey... you have some unanswered questions that have been asked of you. Why don't you go do a little research and get back to us with the answers?

I worry that Iran will use this opportunity to jump in.

re: #228 yma o hyd

Gawd, I loathe these female talking heads of the Beeb in Israel - the one just spouted all the threats of the hamassholes, like how they're going to open hell for the IDF - practically salivating at that image.

"Jihad of the mouth."

re: #162 MandyManners

What's an anchoress?

A sequestered female nun or religious authority in the Catholic church. Often a deeply religious and knowledgeable woman who chooses the life with church permission. Advisors to the church and throne.

re: #240 snopercod

I worry that Iran will use this opportunity to jump in.

They wouldn't dare... not yet anyway, America would hop in.

Hizballah -- now there is a threat.

I'm no warmonger, but I do sleep better at night knowing the IDF's are on the move and killing Jihadists.

No one likes the poor death cult Palestinians. They make crap neighbors. The only folks who adore the Palis are non-neighboring media elites and the neo-fascist left.

Go Israel.

re: #240 snopercod

I worry that Iran will use this opportunity to jump in.

That's scheduled for 12pm EST 20 Jan 09.

The Fox News Anchor just had a NY Times reporter from Gaza on the phone.

Here's what she said.

A Prayer For Israel:

[Link: www.acwitness.org...]

re: #234 Idle Drifter

All's quiet in my little part of the World unless there are small demonstrations in Bolder, CO and the various campuses across Denver, CO but I haven't heard of any. Can any other residents verify.

Well, Al-Jazeera hasn't arrived back in Golden.

re: #171 Jetpilot1101

Obama won't be able to affect anything the IDF does. He isn't a friend of Israel and most folks are beginning to realize that. Israel will be condemned by the rest of the world no matter what so adding his voice is just more noise to them. I also don't think he'll have the stomach to cut funding for Israel. Even if HE does, Congress won't because votes for them depend on supporting Israel. Sorry Mr. Obama but you're pretty much screwed on this one.

I suspect Obama will not be willing to risk his domestic agenda over Israel. So he may just continue to lay low.

But I also have no illusions about where his sympathies lay. To the extent he gets involved, he will give a boost to the IslamoNazis.

That's why its crucial for Israel to complete the main objectives before Jan. 20th. After that, it's going to be like Dhimmi Carter's second term.

re: #228 yma o hyd

Gawd, I loathe these female talking heads of the Beeb in Israel - the one just spouted all the threats of the hamassholes, like how they're going to open hell for the IDF - practically salivating at that image.

*spit*

... as if the IDF has done nothing in the last week to limit the 'military' capabilities of the hamasthugs!

The Beeb is working to hire on Baghdad Bob as we speak.

/?

CNN just ran a crawl that said "Israel starts large scale troop drafting".

Umm, "drafting"? How in the world does NOBODY at the network know that that is the entirely wrong word for Reservist call-ups?
Actually, I'm sute they know, but they want to exacerbate the "dreadfulness" of Israel's actions.

Anybody good at extracting/downloading video embedded at Web pages?

Normally, I'm good at it, but I'm having real trouble with this one. It's related to this thread - -Gaza protests in SF.

If you know how to extract the video (i.e. download to hard drive) from this page, either tell me how to do it, or do it yourself and send it to me!

Time to clean up the house, starting with the Hamas room. Thank you, IDF, for standing up to this menace. God bless you and your families for defending freedom.

re: #240 snopercod

I worry that Iran will use this opportunity to jump in.

I suspect that would be about the dumbest thing Dinner Jacket could pull.

sky news: night vision camera shot of lines and lines of IDF soldiers on the march...

brave as hell...

tonight, we are all Israeli.

re: #241 jaunte

"Jihad of the mouth."

Brilliant expression! And she has the hardly islamic name of Katya Adler ...
(Have been complaining about her already, to the Beeb)

re: #244 Maximu§

I'm no warmonger, but I do sleep better at night knowing the IDF's are on the move and killing Jihadists.

Somebody in the West better have the nads to do it. Should be our job, but we became (or soon will become) wimps.

Thank God for the IDF.

re: #173 jcm

GPS works anytime. No need to lase a target.

that all depends on how accurate you want to be......

re: #239 Walter L. Newton

He Mikey... you have some unanswered questions that have been asked of you. Why don't you go do a little research and get back to us with the answers?

I was going to reply much the same. But I thought maybe he would contribute something to this thread. Maybe maybe not/

re: #142 Salamantis

It was poetic justice for the mastermind of the Beirut US Embassy and Marine Barracks truckbombings.

* * *
Ronald Reagan struggled with how to fight these jihadists who murdered innocents for so long--Ronnie's Irish Eyes are no doubt smiling on Israel's invasion today.

re: #259 ploome hineni

the FOX woman did nothing to stop that lying propaganda

That bothered me, too. There were plenty of openings.

re: #240 snopercod