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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

— William Butler Yeats, The Second Coming

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1222 comments
1 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:41:29pm

This guy walks into a quiet bar. He is carrying three ducks. One in
each hand and one under his left arm. He places them on the bar. He
has a few drinks and chats with the bartender.

The bartender is experienced and has learned not to ask people about
the animals that they bring into the bar, so he doesn't mention the
ducks.

They chat for about 30 minutes before the bloke with the ducks has to
go to the rest room. The ducks are left on the Bar.

The bartender is alone with the ducks. There is an awkward silence.
The bartender decides to try to make some conversation.

"What's your name?" He says to the first duck. "Huey" said the duck.

"How's your day been?"

"Great. Lovely day. Had a ball. Been in and out of puddles all day."
"Oh. That's nice," says the Bartender.

Then he says to the second duck, "Hi. And what's your name?"

"Dewey" came the answer.

"So how's your day been?"

"Great. Lovely day. Had a ball. Been in and out of puddles all day. If
I had the chance another day I would do the same again."

So the Bartender turns to the third duck and says, "So, you must be
Louie"

"No", growls the 3rd duck, "My name is Puddles. And don't ask about my
fucking day!"

2 Pietr  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:41:52pm

Well, LNDT is OPEN...........:>))

3 Buster Bunny  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:42:19pm

The Fruit Cup Rebellion of 2009 .. what an event !

Should we serve tea too?

4 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:43:46pm

A construction worker came home just in time to find his wife in bed with
another man. So he dragged the man down the stairs to the garage and put
his Willy in a vise. He secured it tightly and removed the handle.
Then he picked up a hacksaw. The man, terrified, screamed, "Stop! Stop!
You're not going to...to...cut it off, are you?!?" The husband said,
with a gleam of revenge in his eye, "Nope. You are. I'm going to set the
garage on fire."

5 Killian Bundy  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:43:54pm

Turn off the lights and be quiet.

/maybe it won't see this thread

6 gmsc  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:43:59pm

Powers of 10:

Youtube Video
7 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:44:48pm

A salesman drove into a small town where a circus was in progress.
A sign read: 'Don't Miss the Amazing Scotsman'. The salesman bought a
ticket and sat down.

There, on centre stage, was a table with three walnuts on it.

Standing next to it was an old Scotsman.

Suddenly the old man lifted his kilt, whipped out a huge willy and
smashed all three walnuts with three mighty swings!
The crowd erupted in applause as the elderly Scot was carried off on the
shoulders of the crowd.

Ten years later the salesman visited the same little town and saw a
faded sign for the same circus and
the same sign 'Don't Miss The Amazing Scotsman'.
He couldn't believe the old guy was still alive much less still doing
his act!
He bought a ticket. Again, the centre ring was illuminated.

This time, however, instead of walnuts, three coconuts were placed on
the table.
The Scotsman stood before them, then suddenly lifted his kilt and shattered
the coconuts with three swings of his amazing member.
The crowd went wild!
Flabbergasted, the salesman requested a meeting with him after the show.

'You're incredible!' he told the Scotsman. 'But I have to know something.
You're older now, why switch from walnuts to coconuts?
''Well laddie,' said the Scot, 'Ma eyes are nae whit they used tae be.'

8 Pietr  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:44:53pm

John O'Reilly hoisted his beer and said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life,
between the legs of me beautiful wife!"
That won him the top prize at the pub for the best toast of the night!
He went home and told his wife, Mary, "I won the prize for the Best toast of the night."
She said, "Aye, did ye now. And what was your toast?"
John said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life,
sitting in church beside me wife."
"Oh, that is very nice indeed, John!" Mary said.
The next day, Mary ran into one of John's drinking buddies on the street corner.
The man chuckled leeringly and said, "John won the prize the other night at the pub with a toast about you, Mary."

She said, "Aye, he told me, and I was a bit surprised myself.
You know, he's only been there twice in the last four years.

Once he fell asleep, and the other time I had to pull him by the ears to make him come."

9 Macker  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:45:19pm

re: #1 Erik The Red

Well, fuck a duck!

/Whoopi_Goldberg

10 gmsc  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:46:14pm

During a job interview, the interviewer asked, "Where did you get your education?"

The interviewee replied, "Yale."

The interviewer replied, "That's very impressive, Mr . . . I'm sorry, what was your name again?"

The interviewee stated, "Yim Yohnson."

11 Erik The Red  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:46:17pm

In a recent interview,
General Norman Schwarzkopf
was asked if he thought
there was room for forgiveness
toward the people who have harbored
and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated
the 9/11 attacks on America.

His answer was classic Schwarzkopf.

" I believe that forgiving them is God's function.

OUR job is to arrange the meeting. "

12 gmsc  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:47:20pm

Do we have any Potentates of the Rose here?

If you aren't, click the link to try and become one!

13 redc1c4  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:47:55pm

re: #5 Killian Bundy

Turn off the lights and be quiet.

/maybe it won't see this thread

too late: you already did.....

14 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:51:29pm

re: #5 Killian Bundy

Turn off the lights and be quiet.

/maybe it won't see this thread

Too late, I'm here now.

15 Macker  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:52:42pm

A word of friendly advice: my spinoff link above will be available for viewing in approximately 7 minutes.

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:53:38pm

re: #15 Macker

A word of friendly advice: my spinoff link above will be available for viewing in approximately 7 minutes.

You expect me to wait a whole 7 minutes?!? The nerve of some people!

//////

17 SteveC  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:57:19pm

Last Halloween I was out running some errands when I heard BUMP... BUMP... BUMP.... behind me. I turned around and saw this
*CASKET* coming down the street after me! It was up on its edge and
"walking" like a person would!

It got closer and closer, and the lid started clapping open and closed
like it was trying to grab me! So I was *RUNNING* by now, and the
casket was keeping up with me!

I got home, ran inside, and locked the door. The casket crashed
through the wall! All the time that BUMP BUMP BUMP sound, and the
occasional SNAP as the lid tried to bite me!

So I ran down the hall into the bathroom, closed and locked that
door... and the casket CRASHED THROUGH THE DOOR!

Ok, I was praying to Shiva, Buddha, Pharaoh, Isis, EVERYBODY by
that time. No where else to go, the casket between me and the door,
and only a painted shut window behind me.

I was grabbing things and tossing them at the casket. A box of kleenex
and rolls of toilet paper didn't hurt it a bit. I finally grabbed this
bottle of Cough Syrup, wound up like a baseball pitcher, and threw
that. The bottle hit the casket and shattered! Cough syrup went
everywhere!

And that is when the coffin stopped....

18 Pietr  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:58:58pm

Three men married wives from different states.

The first man married a woman from Michigan . He told her that she was to do the dishes and house cleaning. It took a couple of days, but on the third day, he came home to see a clean house and dishes washed and put away.

The second man married a woman from Missouri . He gave his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning, dishes and the cooking. The first day he didn't see any results, but the next day he saw it was better. By the third day, he saw his house was clean, the dishes were done and there was a huge dinner on the table.

The third man married a girl from TEXAS . He ordered her to keep the house cleaned, dishes washed, lawn mowed, laundry washed, and hot meals on the table for every meal. He said the first day he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't see anything, but by the third day, some of the swelling had gone down and he could see a little out of his left eye, and his arm was healed enough that he could fix himself a sandwich and load the dishwasher.

19 BatGuano  Sun, Mar 29, 2009 11:59:32pm

re: #6 gmsc

Thanks for posting that.

20 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, March 30th:

240 BC - 1st recorded perihelion passage of Halley's Comet.

1856 - The Treaty of Paris (1856) is signed, ending the Crimean War.

1858 - Hymen Lipman patents a pencil with an attached eraser.

1867 - Alaska is purchased for $7.2 million, about 2 cent/acre ($4.19/km²), by United States Secretary of State William H. Seward. The news media call this Seward's Folly.

1870 - Texas is readmitted to the Union following Reconstruction.

1927 - Peter Marshall is born.

1930 - John Astin is born.

1937 - Warren Beatty is born.

1962 - MC Hammer is born.

1968 - Celine Dion is born.

1981 - President Ronald Reagan is shot in the chest outside a Washington, D.C., hotel by John Hinckley, Jr.

1986 - James Cagney died.

1997 - Five (channel) Begins broadcasting in the UK

2006 - Marcos Pontes is the first Brazilian astronaut in space.

21 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:00:45am

re: #19 BatGuano

Thanks for posting that.

You're welcome. It's been a favorite since I first saw it in elementary school.

22 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:01:21am

Golly gee I finally made it to an open night thread!

23 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:02:59am

re: #22 Afrocity

Pietr left cocktails on the side bar. :-)

24 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:03:30am

This upcoming quarter (starting tomorrow, or later today, for some of you) is going to be very annoying yet interesting.

Class #1 - History of Middle East, 1700-Present
Class #2 - Politics of American Suburbanization
Class #3 - Politics of Israel's Identity

Definitely not the classes I wanted, I actually ended up getting screwed and stuck in taking the Middle East class, but I suppose it'll be relevant nonetheless.

25 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:03:51am

re: #23 Pvt Bin Jammin

Pietr left cocktails on the side bar. :-)

No thanks, I have my peppermint tea with a shot of half and half

26 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:03:52am

re: #22 Afrocity

Golly gee I finally made it to an open night thread!

Welcome, Afrocity!

If you can stick around until 2AM PT/5AM ET, we get fruitcup!

27 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:03:59am

re: #23 Pvt Bin Jammin

Pietr left cocktails on the side bar. :-)

Since this is your first night here, allow me to serve you, M'Lady!

28 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:04:35am

re: #24 TheMatrix31

Hello, are you in grad school?

29 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:04:57am

re: #25 Afrocity

That sounds good, too.

30 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:05:30am

More right wing religiosity connections, just what we need ...

Rev. Moon Exemplifies Right Wing GOP Subsidy of Big Media to Frame Message

"In short, Moon, in essence, shells out hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to use the Washington Times as a public relations vehicle for "framing" the GOP perspective. The Washington Times doesn't have the incendiary flamboyant impact of Rush Limbaugh, but it has played a vital role in moving the "frame" of what is considered "centrist" in the U.S. among D.C. insiders way to the right.

Just last week (March 23), it was announced that the Washington Times is going to launch a radio program:

The Washington Times is headed for radio. In a partnership announced Monday (March 23) with Talk Radio Network, the paper plans to launch later this spring a nationally syndicated, three-hour, morning-drive radio show (6 a.m. to 9 a.m. ET) aimed at showcasing the paper's investigative reporting and accountability journalism.

The move is part of the paper's strategy to transform itself into a multimedia, multiplatform news company. According to Nielsen Online, unique users of The Washington Times Web grew 39 percent in February, compared to a year ago.

"We believe this unique journalistic team, combined with radio’s ability to give the time and context needed to flesh out breaking stories, will make for a powerful winning combination in talk radio," said Mark Masters, CEO of Talk Radio Network. “Rather than commenting on yesterday’s news, this news show will have the capacity to make, break and drive the news cycle. Like 60 Minutes once did for TV, this show can do for radio. We are very excited and honored to embark in this partnership with The Washington Times investigative team

If you want a little insight into how the pieces of the right wing media echo chamber puzzle fit together, it is worth looking at some of the people under contract to Talk Radio Network: Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Rusty Humphries, Monica Crowley, and Tammy Bruce. Bruce most recently made an infamous remark calling the Obamas trash, and Tammy Bruce managed to insult the entire nation of Canada a couple of weeks ago, resulting in an unprecedented Ottawa call for an apology from FOX "News."

31 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:05:47am

re: #22 Afrocity

Golly gee I finally made it to an open night thread!

then, in keeping with tradition, the drinks are on you....

WOOT!

32 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:05:48am

re: #24 TheMatrix31

This upcoming quarter (starting tomorrow, or later today, for some of you) is going to be very annoying yet interesting.

Class #1 - History of Middle East, 1700-Present
Class #2 - Politics of American Suburbanization
Class #3 - Politics of Israel's Identity

Definitely not the classes I wanted, I actually ended up getting screwed and stuck in taking the Middle East class, but I suppose it'll be relevant nonetheless.

/Poli Sci major?

33 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:07:03am

re: #24 TheMatrix31

This upcoming quarter (starting tomorrow, or later today, for some of you) is going to be very annoying yet interesting.

Class #1 - History of Middle East, 1700-Present
Class #2 - Politics of American Suburbanization
Class #3 - Politics of Israel's Identity

Definitely not the classes I wanted, I actually ended up getting screwed and stuck in taking the Middle East class, but I suppose it'll be relevant nonetheless utterly pointless.

FTFY!

34 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:07:05am

Where were you and what were you doing 28 years ago today?

Youtube Video
35 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:07:20am

re: #28 Afrocity

Hello, are you in grad school?

Nope, undergrad. It's my first year after transferring from a community college, so I'm a Junior.

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/Poli Sci major?

Most definitely, lol, although the Middle East class is a history class, not a poli sci class.

36 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:07:35am

re: #27 SteveC

Since this is your first night here, allow me to serve you, M'Lady!

I believe you meant that for Afrocity but I'll take a Bombay Martini, up, very dry, with a twist, and thanks. LOL

37 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:07:47am

re: #29 Pvt Bin Jammin

That sounds good, too.

It should have put me out like a light but i am too wound up. My energy is back finally after the surgery. Today I was so productive. I did some spring cleaning, got 5 bags to donate to Goodwill. I made 3 scrapebooks. Groomed my cats--which is a feat of you own a Persian Cat. Cooked a roast duckling. I am psyched...

38 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:08:06am

re: #26 gmsc

Welcome, Afrocity!

If you can stick around until 2AM PT/5AM ET, we get fruitcup!

she can has red fruitcup naow.......

/at own risk

39 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:09:27am

re: #35 TheMatrix31

Most definitely, lol, although the Middle East class is a history class, not a poli sci class.

/take all the statistics courses you can to make it viable

40 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:10:01am

re: #38 redc1c4

she can has red fruitcup naow.......

/at own risk

...Thanks, how delightful. (throws contents in evening bag)/

41 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:10:34am

re: #40 Afrocity

...Thanks, how delightful. (throws contents in evening bag)/

(Hole burns in bottom of evening bag.)

///

42 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:11:09am

re: #41 gmsc

(Hole burns in bottom of evening bag.)

///

RMAOTFL

43 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:11:21am

re: #37 Afrocity

I made 3 scrapebooks.

/quite a hobby

44 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:11:44am
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

And the reasoned are belittled. I suppose it's always been like this?

45 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:12:44am

{Sharmuta}

46 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:12:58am

re: #37 Afrocity

Glad you are feeling good after the surgery.

Sounds like you were a busy gal. I don't have any kitties now because we have terriers and folks say they don't get along.esp. the Jack Russell Terriers of which both of my doggies are mixed. We used to have a Russian Blue cat. He was wonderful.

47 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:12:59am

re: #41 gmsc

(Hole burns in bottom of evening bag.)

///

Security calls Hazmat spill, Afrocity is arrested for investigation of possible terrorist linkages, LNDT comes under suspicion and it's all Little Old Lady's fault.

48 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:13:21am

re: #39 Killian Bundy

/take all the statistics courses you can to make it viable

I can't stand math :-/

Took one stats course in my first quarter because they told me the stats I took at community college wasn't "good enough". This was the first year they decided that, just my luck.

49 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:14:00am

re: #44 Sharmuta

And the reasoned are belittled. I suppose it's always been like this?

This reminds me of my favorite quote:

"I am a member of the smallest, most oppressed minority in history. I am an individual."
-Ayn Rand

50 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:14:14am

re: #38 redc1c4

she can has red fruitcup naow.......k

Not for another 1:46.

/them's the rules

51 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:14:18am

re: #42 Afrocity

RMAOTFL

"rolling my ass on the floor laughing"?

/confused.....

52 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:14:31am

re: #35 TheMatrix31

I have a bachelors in Pol Sci. My concentration was Asian Comparative Politics. My dream was to live in Japan.

53 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:14:46am

re: #47 redc1c4

LOL

54 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:00am

re: #48 TheMatrix31

I can't stand math :-/

Took one stats course in my first quarter because they told me the stats I took at community college wasn't "good enough". This was the first year they decided that, just my luck.

/aim for law school then, worked for me

55 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:01am

re: #48 TheMatrix31

Then you will enjoy this one. :D

56 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:03am

re: #48 TheMatrix31

I can't stand math :-/

*GASP*

I've heard of people like this, but I never thought I'd meet one!

//////

57 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:09am

re: #51 redc1c4

/confused.....

I would have thought you'd be used to that by now.

/white smoke

58 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:10am

re: #34 gmsc

I was at work, listening to the radio thinking, "Nov. 22nd, 1963", and hoping for the best. It worked out much better than I thought it would. :)

59 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:21am

re: #50 Killian Bundy

Not for another 1:46.

/them's the rules

piss on you, i w*rk for Mel Brooks!

60 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:39am

re: #53 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL

No, she won't show up until closer to fruitcup time.

61 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:46am

re: #34 gmsc

Where were you and what were you doing 28 years ago today?

I had just gotten home from school. All I did was sit in front of the TV.

I have read that March 30 1981 was the day that Bela Karolyi (The Hungarian Gymnasics coach who trained Nadia Comaneci and Mary Lou Retton) defected. He turned on the TV and saw all the frantic news reporting, and thought HE was the reason! He almost changed his mind and went back!

62 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:15:58am

re: #51 redc1c4

"rolling my ass on the floor laughing"?

/confused.....

Well at least she didn't say PIMP instead of PIMF. I did.

63 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:16:05am

re: #49 gmsc

This reminds me of my favorite quote:

"I am a member of the smallest, most oppressed minority in history. I am an individual."
-Ayn Rand

Have you seen the youtube videos of her on the Phil Donahue show? What a gal.

64 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:16:06am

re: #47 redc1c4

Security calls Hazmat spill, Afrocity is arrested for investigation of possible terrorist linkages, LNDT comes under suspicion and it's all Little Old Lady's fault.

Afrocity uses "Get Out of Jail Race Card" that she got from Charlie Rangle and Roland Burris/

65 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:17:23am

re: #62 Pvt Bin Jammin

Well at least she didn't say PIMP instead of PIMF. I did.

/preview is my pal is accepted usage at LGF

66 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:17:23am

re: #57 Sharmuta

I would have thought you'd be used to that by now.

/white smoke

and someone took the bait.....

yes, i'm used to confusing people.

/y'all make it so easy to do. %-)

67 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:17:51am

re: #30 pink freud

The Rev. Moon Connection to the Washington Times is old news (I think he also owns some newspapers in Latin America as well). If there was some sinister 'right wing noise machine' trying to control the media, newspapers are hardly the most effective avenue to approach those means.

Don't take my word for it, tho'. Take a Look at the balance sheets for the Tribune Corp, New York Times, Hearst McClatchey or Lee enterprises. Or try subscribing to the Rocky Mountain News...

That whole article smacks of media matters talking points....

68 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:18:29am

re: #62 Pvt Bin Jammin

Well at least she didn't say PIMP instead of PIMF. I did.

well, it is hard out there for a PIMF.......

69 stevieray  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:18:33am

Sigh.

My av/as/fw suite (Zone Alarm Security Suite) is about to expire, and I want to get a different one. So I've been checking out the ratings and reviews, looking for a winner.

I didn't know it was possible for every security package to be simultaneously:

The best and mediocre...
Intuitive and confusing...
Slow scans yet fast scans...
Small footprint and a resource hog...

*bangs head against desk*

I'm leaning toward Kaspersky, but BitDefender looks pretty good too.

/too late to think about this anymore

70 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:19:01am

re: #65 Killian Bundy

/preview is my pal is accepted usage at LGF

Whew, I'm relieved.

I actually have seen other posters do it too but I freaked out when I did it because I was new.

71 Ateam  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:19:08am

re: #1 Erik The Red

re: #4 Erik The Red

re: #7 Erik The Red

re: #8 Pietr

re: #10 gmsc

re: #11 Erik The Red

In a recent interview,
General Norman Schwarzkopf
was asked if he thought
there was room for forgiveness
toward the people who have harbored
and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated
the 9/11 attacks on America.

His answer was classic Schwarzkopf.

" I believe that forgiving them is God's function.

OUR job is to arrange the meeting. "

re: #12 gmsc

Do we have any Potentates of the Rose here?

If you aren't, click the link to try and become one!


re: #17 SteveC

re: #20 gmsc

Just to say :-)

72 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:19:26am

Anyone hear any news about Biden's daughter and the coke tape in the MSM? I have a feeling they are playing crickets on that one. Now had it been Bristol Palin it would be on MSNBC.

73 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:19:59am

re: #52 Afrocity

My dream was to live in Japan.

May I inquire if or why you gave up this dream?

I lived there for a few years; quite an experience (good, overall.)

74 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:20:03am

re: #67 Fenway_Nation

I recognized it as old news also, and wondered why the story was being revitalized now. Kinda figured it was just another attempt to link right wingers to wackos.

75 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:20:30am

re: #67 Fenway_Nation

The Rev. Moon Connection to the Washington Times is old news (I think he also owns some newspapers in Latin America as well). If there was some sinister 'right wing noise machine' trying to control the media, newspapers are hardly the most effective avenue to approach those means.

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya. Next thing you know you'll tell me that a huge warship and a rag tag fleet of humans landed on Earth thousands of years ago.

76 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:20:52am

re: #69 stevieray

I love AVG; highly rated also ...and free.

77 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:20:59am

re: #64 Afrocity

Don't know if you've seen this yet but apparently over at daily kos you are now a member over the vast right wing conspiracy. Congratulations

78 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:22:09am

re: #70 Pvt Bin Jammin

Whew, I'm relieved.

I actually have seen other posters do it too but I freaked out when I did it because I was nude.

PIMP!

79 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:22:50am

re: #63 pink freud

Have you seen the youtube videos of her on the Phil Donahue show? What a gal.

Yep, but not in a long time.

BTW, for anyone who hasn't already seen it, check out these playlists:

This is John Galt Speaking 1.0

This is John Galt Speaking 2.0

These are attempts to dramatize the famous "This is John Galt speaking..." speech from the climax of Atlas Shrugged.

Here's the first video from the 2.0 playlist:

Youtube Video
80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:22:59am

re: #34 gmsc

Where were you and what were you doing 28 years ago today?


[Video]

I was in grade school, trying to figure out how to talk to females in their own language.

/still no progress

81 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:22:59am

re: #68 redc1c4

well, it is hard out there for a PIMF.......

Hilarious.
One of our buddies, a black background singer, wigged out when that pimp song won the academy awards. He had to sing it that night. He came to our little restaurant after, bitching about it.

82 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:23:01am

re: #69 stevieray

Sigh.

My av/as/fw suite (Zone Alarm Security Suite) is about to expire, and I want to get a different one. So I've been checking out the ratings and reviews, looking for a winner.

I didn't know it was possible for every security package to be simultaneously:

The best and mediocre...
Intuitive and confusing...
Slow scans yet fast scans...
Small footprint and a resource hog...

*bangs head against desk*

I'm leaning toward Kaspersky, but BitDefender looks pretty good too.

/too late to think about this anymore

My 2 cents. I have BitDefender on my home PC. I hate it. If it is updating or scaning it really slows the machine down. I have it set to run scans it the middle of the night to avoid the problem.

I use AVG Professional on both my work PC and laptop. I find it to run much quicker and it works in the back ground just fine.

83 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:23:59am

re: #77 Neo Con since 9-11

Don't know if you've seen this yet but apparently over at daily kos you are now a member over the vast right wing conspiracy. Congratulations

Oh they thought that when I blogged at THE CONFLUENCE. Only then it was Wonkette that was on my ass.

84 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:24:01am

re: #72 Afrocity

Anyone hear any news about Biden's daughter and the coke tape in the MSM? I have a feeling they are playing crickets on that one. Now had it been Bristol Palin it would be on MSNBC.

the usual suspects here got all up in arms about even mentioning it, which i agree with in principle, if said principle w*rked both ways, but it doesn't. in that case, i see it as a legitimate news story that should be covered, if it is true.

after all: sauce is sauce.

85 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:25:11am

re: #72 Afrocity

Anyone hear any news about Biden's daughter and the coke tape in the MSM? I have a feeling they are playing crickets on that one. Now had it been Bristol Palin it would be on MSNBC.

27 year old snorts coke, shocka!

/lawyer shopping tape abruptly withdraws, no government threats pressure there

86 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:25:44am

re: #81 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hilarious.
One of our buddies, a black background singer, wigged out when that pimp song won the academy awards. He had to sing it that night. He came to our little restaurant after, bitching about it.

that was certainly a new low for our society....., and they had to drill to hit it.

87 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:25:54am

re: #73 freetoken

May I inquire if or why you gave up this dream?

I lived there for a few years; quite an experience (good, overall.)

I wanted to be in the Jet program and then I got ill with some Lupus type ailment and I could not go. I took 3 years of Japanese and had invested so much into learning about the culture. I was really disappointed. I ended up just getting a grad degree and you know, time slips away...

88 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:26:38am

re: #83 Afrocity

We're happy you're here, and if you've gotten on the bad side of the koslings, so much the better.

89 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:27:08am

re: #78 redc1c4

PIMP!

I said nude? OMG, I can't even believe it.
I guess I am the pimf/ho of all times.

90 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:27:40am

Just for fun, Harry Anderson (Remember Judge Stone from Night Court?) performing his version of the 3-shell game.

The music is Scott Joplin's Solace - A Mexican Serenade

Youtube Video
91 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:28:48am

re: #88 Sharmuta

We're happy you're here, and if you've gotten on the bad side of the koslings, so much the better.

Thank you Sharmuta. When it happened at Wonkette, I was demonized as the Black Ann Coulter. The funny thing is, I NEVER go to those blogs. They need to get a life.

92 stevieray  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:28:57am

re: #76 pink freud

I love AVG; highly rated also ...and free.

I used that too a year or so ago. I had the semi-standard freeware collection -- AVG/Spybot/Zone Alarm. They work pretty good together, but I decided to get an all-in-one suite so the different parts would mesh better. Zone Alarm worked great -- except its database gets corrupted too easily, and to fix it, you have to uninstall it and reinstall it from scratch. I had to do that about five times during the past year.

Gonna try another all-in-one package this year.

93 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:29:16am

re: #55 pink freud

Then you will enjoy this one. :D

Love it, lol.

94 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:29:18am

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm not supposed to tell you this, but because you're my friend, I will. The thing with the female language..... it's all a conspiracy directed against you. Not men- you specifically.

95 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:30:09am

re: #93 TheMatrix31

Love it, lol.

It's Cattt's, attribution necessary. :-)

96 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:30:12am

re: #91 Afrocity

Well- that's insulting, imo. I've never seen you defend racists.

97 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:30:38am

re: #89 Pvt Bin Jammin

I said nude? OMG, I can't even believe it.
I guess I am the pimf/ho of all times.

no, i was just punning wit ya.... go back and check your original post.

/white smoke

98 stevieray  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:30:38am

re: #82 Erik The Red

My 2 cents. I have BitDefender on my home PC. I hate it. If it is updating or scaning it really slows the machine down. I have it set to run scans it the middle of the night to avoid the problem.

I use AVG Professional on both my work PC and laptop. I find it to run much quicker and it works in the back ground just fine.

Good to know. Thanks!

99 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:31:33am

Think I'm gonna bail. Night, all!

100 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:32:31am

HELP Please. I am getting a the message Acrobat failed to load its core DDL.

Any idea what this means and how to fix?

101 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:32:44am

re: #87 Afrocity

Jet has proved quite popular with many people, but you would have gotten stuck out in the boonies likely.

They had an age limit (40, then 42 I believe), but I've read recently that they are now taking people way up into retirement age. However, as you've no doubt read, recently Japan has discovered that it is incredibly susceptible to economic downturn in the US and China, so there is pressure to start cutting funding for these type of things.

I would like to go back, but at my age it is not easy, and trying to start a business there (my previous wish) now would be even more difficult.

がんばろう

102 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:32:56am

re: #83 Afrocity


Must be nice being on their shit list. I haven't done anything noteworthy since one of my sock-puppets made an earnest and fair assessment of the excerable Ted Rall and his Pat Tillman cartoon a few years back.

103 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:33:36am

re: #100 Erik The Red

HELP Please. I am getting a the message Acrobat failed to load its core DDL.

Any idea what this means and how to fix?

The most effective thing to do is probably to re-install Acrobat, or upgrade (if a newer version has been released since you last installed Acrobat).

104 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:34:05am

re: #90 gmsc

The best magic is close-up magic. Love the sleight of hand.

105 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:34:33am

re: #103 gmsc

The most effective thing to do is probably to re-install Acrobat, or upgrade (if a newer version has been released since you last installed Acrobat).

Was hoping I didn't have to do that. Seems I will :( Thanks

106 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:34:40am

The new lead psychiatrist was making the rounds of the mental institution he was to head, when going into a patients room he found a man running back and forth, swinging his arm like he were playing tennis. The doctor asked what he was doing and the patient replied, I'm getting out next week and I plan to be a champion tennis player."
Amused, the doctor went to the next room and found a men making the movements of playing the piano. The doctor said, "Don't tell me, you're getting out next week and you plan to be a concert pianist, right?"
Amazed, the patient replied "How incredible your ear is tuned to my music." Again amused, the doctor moved on to the next room to find a patient laying on his bed with a walnut balanced on the end of an enormous erection. The doctor exclaimed What in the world are you doing?"
The patient replied, "I'm fucking nuts, and I'm never getting out of here."

/welcome to the monkey-house......

107 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:35:11am

re: #100 Erik The Red

yep. uninstall, reinstall.

[Link: www.adobeforums.com...]

108 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:35:26am

re: #94 Sharmuta

I. FREAKING. KNEW. IT.

If only you ladies knew what you were missing, you'd all be so much nicer.

//boo hoo for me

109 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:35:27am

I'm still trying to make it all the way through the McLeroy video downstairs. Every 30 seconds I have to stop it. Mos Def was more entertaining, if not any brighter....

110 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:35:29am

re: #96 Sharmuta

Well- that's insulting, imo. I've never seen you defend racists.

Just leftist lies. Another one is that I am self-loathing towards my skin color. I just ignore it and like this Daily Kos article. Why am I cited when my post does not have a damn thing to do with Obama's Special Olympics comment.

It is so infantile on their parts, "Gee lets eat Kool Aid Popsicles and cut and paste some posts from LGF that say mean and nasty things about Dear Leader."

Daily Kos = Dodo Bird regurgitation

111 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:35:38am

re: #52 Afrocity

I have a bachelors in Pol Sci. My concentration was Asian Comparative Politics. My dream was to live in Japan.

What did you want to do here?

Evening all, just stopping by for a quick pint.

BiJ.

112 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:36:28am

re: #101 freetoken

Good hiragana ;-)

113 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:37:34am

re: #107 pink freud

yep. uninstall, reinstall.

[Link: www.adobeforums.com...]

Thanks. At site now.

114 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:38:26am

re: #111 Brit in Japan

What did you want to do here?

Evening all, just stopping by for a quick pint.

BiJ.

I wanted to go into international law and learn everything there is to know about the culture. I learned the language by text so it was very business like Mari Noda method. I wanted to learn the distal style and thought I could achieve that in Japan.

115 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:38:34am

re: #111 Brit in Japan


Newcastle or Asahi?

116 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:38:34am

re: #100 Erik The Red

HELP Please. I am getting a the message Acrobat failed to load its core DDL.

Any idea what this means and how to fix?

Wait, are you talking about Acrobat itself or Acrobat Reader?re: #104 BatGuano

The best magic is close-up magic. Love the sleight of hand.

Yep, close-up magic has been a long-time hobby of mine. I especially love playing card close-up magic.

Of course, closely related to the 3-shell game is the cups & balls:

Youtube Video
117 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:38:49am

re: #113 Erik The Red

Thanks. At site now.

Always helpful to just type whatever error message you receive right into google. Someone, somewhere, has had the same problem. (And more likely than not, thousands have ...)

118 BryanS  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:40:17am

re: #117 pink freud

Always helpful to just type whatever error message you receive right into google. Someone, somewhere, has had the same problem. (And more likely than not, thousands have ...)

Noooo! You're taking away my secret tech troubleshooting-fu that helps me look like I know what the hell I'm doing.

119 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:40:54am

re: #101 freetoken

Jet has proved quite popular with many people, but you would have gotten stuck out in the boonies likely.

Indeed. I've met a few JETs and it still seems the best way for a temporary 1-3 year stay; you seem to get looked after by the schools and a support network of fellow JETs - but the BIG downside is you can get sent to all kinds of backwaters and I've heard some horror stories in bars about the kind of accomodation you have to put up with.

BiJ.

120 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:41:12am

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

To tell the truth, some times I wonder if intelligence in this day and age is a liability in the dating world.

121 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:42:01am

re: #118 BryanS

Damn! I am so sorry for harshing your fu! :-)

122 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:42:34am

re: #111 Brit in Japan

Aloha Brit, we'll be in Japan the first week of May for some family business and an onsen break.........got any favorites?

123 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:42:34am

re: #120 Sharmuta

To tell the truth, some times I wonder if intelligence in this day and age is a liability in the dating world.

ignorance is bliss, and i'm surrounded by happy people.

124 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:43:20am

re: #120 Sharmuta

To tell the truth, some times I wonder if intelligence in this day and age is a liability in the dating world.

FTFY

125 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:43:35am

re: #123 redc1c4

ignorance is bliss, and i'm surrounded by happy people.


...as us LNDT'ers can fully attest to.

126 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:43:42am

re: #119 Brit in Japan

Indeed. I've met a few JETs and it still seems the best way for a temporary 1-3 year stay; you seem to get looked after by the schools and a support network of fellow JETs - but the BIG downside is you can get sent to all kinds of backwaters and I've heard some horror stories in bars about the kind of accomodation you have to put up with.

BiJ.

Okay, I should not say this but my Japanese sensei, professor Nakamoto was going to put in special request for me to go to Tokyo if I did the Jet program. She felt my race would not work well in the rural parts. Personally I never told her but I requested the Kobe block or Nara or Kyoto.

127 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:43:45am

re: #115 Fenway_Nation

Newcastle or Asahi?

Asahi (Super Dry only, please) is great in the summers. It's still pretty cold, so I'll have a Newcastle Brown. Mmmmm.

Learning how to order a beer was the first Japanese I learned lol.

BiJ.

128 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:44:33am

Well, more and more people are waking up now and saying to themselves, WTF socialist madness is Obama up to with GM and Chrysler?

The markets are very angry and it's been deteriorating with time.

/and it's only bound to get worse when Obama climbs on the TV later today and tries to explain the unaAmerican de facto overnight usurpation of control of most of the American auto industry

129 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:45:42am

re: #125 pink freud

...as us LNDT'ers can fully attest to.

*Ahum* I was referring to your online law class-mates.

130 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:46:14am

re: #128 Killian Bundy

Well, more and more people are waking up now and saying to themselves, WTF socialist madness is Obama up to with GM and Chrysler?

The markets are very angry and it's been deteriorating with time.

/and it's only bound to get worse when Obama climbs on the TV later today and tries to explain the unaAmerican de facto overnight usurpation of control of most of the American auto industry

Jay Leno will explain it:

Youtube Video
131 BryanS  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:46:16am

re: #125 pink freud

...as us LNDT'ers can fully attest to.

Hmmm, trying to use my google-fu, LNDT = Lithuanian National Drama Theatre :?)

Guessing LN means late night, does that mean "late night drink tippers"?

132 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:47:05am

re: #131 BryanS

Late Night Drinking Thread

Late Night Dead Threaders (my favorite of the two)

133 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:48:04am

re: #104 BatGuano

The best magic is close-up magic. Love the sleight of hand.

BTW, here's an old video of me performing an effect called Baffle Bat. Yes, that's my voice and my hand in the video.

Youtube Video
134 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:48:07am

re: #132 pink freud

Late Night Drinking Thread

Late Night Dead Threaders (my favorite of the two)

You just made a lot of Lithuanians that read this thread very angry.

135 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:49:07am

re: #114 Afrocity

I wanted to go into international law and learn everything there is to know about the culture. I learned the language by text so it was very business like Mari Noda method. I wanted to learn the distal style and thought I could achieve that in Japan.

The other problem is Japanese looks very different when written down because they conjutate the verbs so differently than when spoken, particularly in business memos / reports.

The respectful methods of address I picked up when I got here, so yes, I think it a good idea to come over because it can be quite tricky according to circumstances - if you over-do it in the wrong situation it's like you are mocking someone.

I love that they put the honorific "o" in front of "sake" (alcohol) - so I love to order "Ohhhhh beeru"!

BiJ.

136 pink freud  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:49:31am

re: #134 Buster Bunny

You just made a lot of Lithuanians that read this thread very angry.

Can you deal with them for me, please? I'm heading to bed. :-)

Nite all!

137 Bob Dillon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:50:01am

re: #12 gmsc

Do we have any Potentates of the Rose here?

If you aren't, click the link to try and become one!

Yes.

138 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:50:34am

re: #136 pink freud

Nite.

I think I am finally getting sleepy too.

139 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:50:49am

re: #136 pink freud

Can you deal with them for me, please? I'm heading to bed. :-)

Nite all!

As usual .. Pink freud slips off to bed and leaves me dealing with angry lithuanians with pitchforks. All righty then ..

EN GARDE !

140 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:50:55am

re: #138 Afrocity

Nite.

I think I am finally getting sleepy too.

Sleep well, Afrocity. Thanks for joining us tonight!

141 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:51:09am

re: #136 pink freud

Can you deal with them for me, please? I'm heading to bed. :-)

Nite all!

G'Nite, pink!

142 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:51:16am

re: #122 IslandLibertarian

Aloha Brit, we'll be in Japan the first week of May for some family business and an onsen break.........got any favorites?

Kyoto and the cherry blossoms are wonderful that time. Don't miss it. Yoshino in Nara is nice too, but you have to time it right. I'm not big into onsens - brudish Brit and all that.

BiJ.

143 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:51:49am

re: #124 gmsc

FTFY

Now we get closer to to the truth. Save your intelligence for your personal life, your personal enrichment, educating your children, tending to your finances. At work? Don't make waves, nobody's interested. Politics? Take a look around. Above all be optimistic!

144 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:52:10am

re: #128 Killian Bundy

Well, more and more people are waking up now and saying to themselves, WTF socialist madness is Obama up to with GM and Chrysler?

The markets are very angry and it's been deteriorating with time.

/and it's only bound to get worse when Obama climbs on the TV later today and tries to explain the unaAmerican de facto overnight usurpation of control of most of the American auto industry

AH-OOOGAH! AH-OOOGAH! Dive, Dive Dive.......

did we ever figure out what crush depth was on this pig?

145 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:53:07am

re: #143 BatGuano

Now we get closer to to the truth. Save your intelligence for your personal life, your personal enrichment, educating your children, tending to your finances. At work? Don't make waves, nobody's interested. Politics? Take a look around. Above all be optimistic!

My optimism is gone.

146 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:53:53am

re: #126 Afrocity

Okay, I should not say this but my Japanese sensei, professor Nakamoto was going to put in special request for me to go to Tokyo if I did the Jet program. She felt my race would not work well in the rural parts. Personally I never told her but I requested the Kobe block or Nara or Kyoto.

I think any of those places would be ok - but they still have rural parts. That's interesting what she said about your race - I hate to say it, but I think she might be right.

BiJ.

147 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:53:57am

re: #143 BatGuano

Now we get closer to to the truth. Save your intelligence for your personal life, your personal enrichment, educating your children, tending to your finances. At work? Don't make waves, nobody's interested. Politics? Take a look around. Above all be optimistic!

Most importantly .. start being more subtle about your opinions in public. One of the things that is constantly re-iterated at the moment in liberal threads is TAKE NAMES. Why would you bother taking names unless you were going to be using it at a later stage?

Be cautious with your tone at all times, and friendly but not political.

The times have changed.

148 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:54:07am

re: #143 BatGuano

Now we get closer to to the truth. Save your intelligence for your personal life, your personal enrichment, educating your children, tending to your finances. At work? Don't make waves, nobody's interested. Politics? Take a look around. Above all be optimistic!

"And yet, don't look too good, nor talk too wise."
-Rudyard Kipling

149 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:54:55am

re: #145 Sharmuta

My optimism is gone.

optimism is it's own punishment.

150 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:55:19am

re: #142 Brit in Japan

Well the plan is two nights in Kyoto after the business portion.
Looking forward to the visit. One of my favorite countries.
Watashi no kanajo wa nihon jin desu.

/they loosen up the brudish attitude.

151 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:55:32am

re: #145 Sharmuta

My optimism is gone.

True optimism isn't seeing only the good side of things. True optimism is seeing both the good and bad side of things, and knowing that you can handle either one.

Trying to handle things out of your control is pointless, anyway.

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:56:32am

re: #120 Sharmuta

Like any other aspect of a dating person's image, it gets the "Marketing Department" treatment. Sanitized, commercialized, and toned down for mass consumption.

Can't be too dirty/clean for you target audience. Too rich/poor. Too intelligent/vapid. Too informed/ignorant. It is a mad balancing act, and I thoroughly suck at it.

Bonus for me, though: I am what I am and I can't hide that. If I find someone who likes me, then they like me, and not some bullshit image.

/bungs up the whole "trying to get laid" thing, though...

153 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:56:36am

I made it to 4:04 in the McLeroy video so far... I wonder if I can make it to the end. Maybe I should go get a burrito before the fruit-cup arrives....

154 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:57:03am

re: #138 Afrocity

Nite.

I think I am finally getting sleepy too.

Ah well. Nice chatting. I get so lonely in this timezone. :D

I'd better be off myself. *gulps down Newkie Brown*

BiJ.

155 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:57:25am

re: #144 redc1c4

AH-OOOGAH! AH-OOOGAH! Dive, Dive Dive.......

did we ever figure out what crush depth was on this pig?

Currently, anything below DJIA 6440.08.

/a little more than 1300 points to the downside from here

156 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:58:02am

re: #133 gmsc

Bravo! I played it twice. I'm stumped.

157 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:58:53am

re: #147 Buster Bunny

Most importantly .. start being more subtle about your opinions in public. One of the things that is constantly re-iterated at the moment in liberal threads is TAKE NAMES. Why would you bother taking names unless you were going to be using it at a later stage?

Be cautious with your tone at all times, and friendly but not political.

The times have changed.

the times may have changed, but i haven't, and i won't....... they're taking names? good: i'll save the little piss ants the trouble and write it down myself, in extra big letters, just like someone else did a few years back.

molon labe.

158 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:59:02am

re: #86 redc1c4

that was certainly a new low for our society....., and they had to drill to hit it.

Dang I went to a PDF and had to re-boot because I wanted to give some background for you lizards.

Our background singer friend's dad was in the "Nickle 'O Trey", which was considered a "negro" division. He was a 1st Lt. in the 503rd Field Artillery Battalion during the Korean War, part of Second Division. They held their ground longer than most. Dad also served in WWII. Dad figured out something regarding the "trajectory" of the rounds. He is POW/MIA from Korea and our friend never even knew his dad.

Spit on the "negro" thing, this man is my brother.

159 Brit in Japan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:59:13am

re: #150 IslandLibertarian

Well the plan is two nights in Kyoto after the business portion.
Looking forward to the visit. One of my favorite countries.
Watashi no kanajo wa nihon jin desu.

/they loosen up the brudish attitude.

Omedetou! :)

PIMF that should have said prudish - but you got the idea I see. :)

BiJ.

160 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 12:59:29am

re: #151 gmsc

True optimism isn't seeing only the good side of things. True optimism is seeing both the good and bad side of things, and knowing that you can handle either one.

Trying to handle things out of your control is pointless, anyway.

When it comes to the "Glass half empty or half full", I just thank God I have a glass at all.

161 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:00:22am

re: #156 BatGuano

Bravo! I played it twice. I'm stumped.

Thanks!

I've been told by those for whom I performed it live that it's even more bizarre in person (not so much to me, as I know the secret).

162 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:00:27am

re: #159 Brit in Japan

Omedetou! :)

PIMF that should have said prudish - but you got the idea I see. :)

BiJ.

Yes, and they take care of that too...............

163 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:01:05am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Currently, anything below DJIA 6440.08.

/a little more than 1300 points to the downside from here

think we'll go there?

164 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:01:19am

re: #137 Bobibutu

Yes.

Thought that would be harder. Missed first 3 and than worked it out. Just became a member. :)

165 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:01:33am

re: #160 IslandLibertarian

When it comes to the "Glass half empty or half full", I just thank God I have a glass at all.

Many here know how technical I am. When someone asked me if the glass was half-full or half-empty, I told them I believed the glass was twice as big as it needed to be, if that's all the liquid it was going to hold.
;)

166 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:02:02am

re: #147 Buster Bunny

I think the leftists would rather enjoy having conservatives feel like they can't express themselves in public. To the people I told at work and in public that 0bama was going to raise taxes and make the economy worse- I feel I owe them a hearty, "I told you so!" As before, I will pick and choose when to keep my mouth shut, but I'm not keeping quiet publicly any more than I have previously.

167 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:02:59am

re: #144 redc1c4

AH-OOOGAH! AH-OOOGAH!

"I . . . I . . I . . I'm hooked on a feeling . . . "

168 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:03:26am

re: #165 gmsc

Many here know how technical I am. When someone asked me if the glass was half-full or half-empty, I told them I believed the glass was twice as big as it needed to be, if that's all the liquid it was going to hold.
;)

it's not whether the glass is half empty or half full: i want something entirely different in the glass.

169 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:04:41am

re: #167 gmsc

"I . . . I . . I . . I'm hooked on a feeling . . . "

that's "OOOGAH-CHUCKA, OOOGAH-CHUCKA...."

and you're old.

170 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:05:34am

re: #163 redc1c4

think we'll go there?

No, except for unemployment, a lagging indicator, the economy seems to be bottoming.

/but Obama hasn't said or done one [expletive deleted] thing to reassure the markets since he declared his run for the Presidency

171 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:06:27am

Cat Phyysics

172 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:06:37am

re: #34 gmsc

Thanks so much. It seems like it was just yesterday.

173 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:06:45am

Hmm....I had a Japanese pen-pal awhile back who hailed from Kobe (this was when I took a semester of Japanese). She sent me this nice Kodansha postcard book and some really spiffy Shinkansen (bullet train) stuff like 3-D stationary and keychains....and since she collected stamps, I sent her a set depicting Norman Rockwell's Four Freedoms.

174 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:07:33am

re: #165 gmsc

re: #165 gmsc

If I have a party, you guys BYOB!

/and there will never be a glass half full.............

175 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:08:14am

re: #169 redc1c4

that's "OOOGAH-CHUCKA, OOOGAH-CHUCKA...."

and you're old.

/Resevoir Dogs

176 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:08:16am

re: #167 gmsc

Blue Swede.

177 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:08:44am

re: #144 redc1c4

I heard 5000...

178 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:08:50am

re: #169 redc1c4

that's "OOOGAH-CHUCKA, OOOGAH-CHUCKA...."

and you're old.

Both true.

179 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:09:01am

re: #170 Killian Bundy

No, except for unemployment, a lagging indicator, the economy seems to be bottoming.

/but Obama hasn't said or done one [expletive deleted] thing to reassure the markets since he declared his run for the Presidency

so you don't think the larger debt, higher taxes and additional regulations will have a negative effect on the economy?

180 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:09:14am

re: #173 Fenway_Nation

Shinkansen rocks, I love trains...........

181 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:09:25am

re: #172 MrPaulRevere

Thanks so much. It seems like it was just yesterday.

You're welcome.

182 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:09:30am

re: #176 BatGuano

Blue Swede.

and before that, BJ Thomas....

183 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:09:37am

Ooogggaa-Chucka...

Youtube Video
184 BignJames  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:12:33am

re: #183 Pietr

You should be severely thrashed for that.

185 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:12:59am

re: #179 redc1c4

so you don't think the larger debt, higher taxes and additional regulations will have a negative effect on the economy?

That's all still hypothetical at this point and, to a certain point, already baked into where the markets are now.

/in Blue Dog Senate Bonkeys we must trust, it's come to that

186 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:13:53am

re: #184 BignJames

You should be severely thrashed for that.

I'm listening to this 1 right now....

Youtube Video
187 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:14:45am

re: #169 redc1c4

that's "OOOGAH-CHUCKA, OOOGAH-CHUCKA...."

and you're old.

CHUCKA?

188 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:16:24am

In reality I'm not optimistic at all. Some American people elected this fecal remnant president. Even nominal conservatives who thought he would govern from the center have admitted they were wrong. I had hoped he would, but never thought he would be more left than what I had feared.
I try not denigrate the office of the president but I can not denigrate it the extent that this grinning gargoyle has done.

189 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:18:17am

re: #182 redc1c4

Absolutely right. About 1970. Except he didn't have the Ooga Chooga thing.

190 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:18:21am

re: #179 redc1c4

so you don't think the larger debt, higher taxes and additional regulations will have a negative effect on the economy?

Plus, the ballooning money supply and the inevitable subsequent inflation and devaluation of the dollar?

Killian,

Jobs FUEL the economy!

/"lagging indicator" my royal tuchas foot

191 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:20:04am

re: #180 IslandLibertarian

For all the upside your part of the world can offer, that's just about the worst place in the world for someone who likes trains...

Unabashed jingoist here- as impressive as the TGV and Shinkansen are for speed, you cannot beat the locomotives made here in the USA for that valuable combination of long shelf-life and pure, raw, undiluted get-the-fuck-out-of-my-way-if-you-know-whats-good-for-you horsepower.

192 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:20:42am

'Gnite, lizards, don't forget the fallen and the POW's. I have spent the majority of my time today leaving remembrances of the fallen on other sites.

Love you lizards.

193 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:21:17am

re: #192 Pvt Bin Jammin

'Gnite, lizards, don't forget the fallen and the POW's. I have spent the majority of my time today leaving remembrances of the fallen on other sites.

Love you lizards.

Sleep well, PBJ!

194 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:21:46am

re: #188 BatGuano

From the first time I saw his smarmy face and heard his populist speech at the Dem' convention, I was repelled.
Now, whenever I see him, I ask out loud, "How did this phony get elected? Is this really happening?"

195 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:22:10am

re: #193 gmsc

Down load done. PDF working again. Thanks.

196 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:22:41am

I had a dream about the G20...

/...strong evidence that I need to get a life

The other guys ripped Obama a new one - in public. And he went full aspic mode.

197 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:22:49am

re: #195 Erik The Red

Down load done. PDF working again. Thanks.

You're welcome. Always glad to be of help!

198 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:23:28am

re: #196 littleoldlady

Morning lol. :)

199 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:23:57am

re: #189 BatGuano

Absolutely right. About 1970. Except he didn't have the Ooga Chooga thing.

yep, BJT..............but it's "HOOKAH-HOOKAH Shaka!"

/or sumpthin'...............

200 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:24:24am

How about a little Jethro Tull...

Youtube Video
201 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:24:40am

Hi Erik! :-)

Don't interrupt me in the middle of my rant, please? I'm almost done...

;-)

202 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:25:13am

re: #196 littleoldlady

Can you save me a fruit cup?

Good to see you.

203 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:25:32am

re: #194 IslandLibertarian

It is indeed happening.

204 LynnfromNZ  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:25:56am

I need to look up when that poem was written. Yeats didn't often write topical poetry but that sure smells like it.

205 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:26:31am

Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

Hiya! How've you been?

I've put it in that special corner of the 'fridge red hasn't discovered yet.

/safe mode ;-)

206 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:27:00am

re: #196 littleoldlady

I had a dream about the G20...

/...strong evidence that I need to get a life

The other guys ripped Obama a new one - in public. And he went full aspic mode.

Welcome, littleoldlady!

You might not be far off . . .

On eve of G20 summit, new blow to Gordon Brown

Brown snubbed over tax

Merkel warns against inflated expectations over G20 summit

207 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:27:01am

Morning all. How's things today?

208 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:27:34am

re: #199 IslandLibertarian

Ooohh.. You sat tomato and I say Ogachoo ka Ooga.. Whetever!. :)

209 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:28:05am

re: #191 Fenway_Nation

I've ridden trains all over the world. Steel wheels on rails drugs my soul.
Best train trip was from Mexicali to Mazatlan in 1967.
Remember going cross country in the early '50s in a pulman. Bliss!

210 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:28:07am

re: #190 littleoldlady

"lagging indicator" my royal tuchas foot

Well it is historically and if you think about it it makes sense.

/the economy needs to pick up (demand) em>before businesses start hiring again, hence employment is a lagging indicator, it works the other way too, businesses layoff as a last resort when the economy turns down

211 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:29:16am

re: #205 littleoldlady

Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

Hiya! How've you been?

I've put it in that special corner of the 'fridge red hasn't discovered yet.

/safe mode ;-)

I'm pretty good.

I'll look in the fridge behind the "ancient Chinese secrets". Thanks, LOL

212 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:29:29am

re: #205 littleoldlady

Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

Hiya! How've you been?

I've put it in that special corner of the 'fridge red hasn't discovered yet.

/safe mode ;-)

she should look at the data plate to see who made the fridge......

"Seewon Industries"

( a wholly pwned subsidiary of Kickntake, Inc. %-)

213 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:29:34am

re: #190 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady!

214 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:29:41am

re: #207 BlueCanuck

Morning all. How's things today?

Morning Blue. Are you at work?

215 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:29:49am

re: #207 BlueCanuck

Morning all. How's things today?

Good morning!

216 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:30:10am

re: #206 gmsc

Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, last night led the assault on the prime minister’s “global new deal” for a $2 trillion-plus fiscal stimulus to end the recession.

“I will not let anyone tell me that we must spend more money,” she said.

May G-d bless and keep Angela Merkel!

217 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:30:22am

One more and I'll stop....Moody Blues...


Youtube Video
218 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:30:42am

re: #207 BlueCanuck

Morning all. How's things today?

screwed, blued and tattooed.... not to mention the fact that LoL is apparently either delusional, or already into the fruitcup.

219 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:31:06am

re: #196 littleoldlady

I had a dream about the G20...

I had a dream that Patti Ann Browne was a crack F-18 pilot.

/powered her way right out of that partially sunk water landing she did

220 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:31:17am

Hiya, Blue! :-)

How did things turn out with work?

221 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:31:32am

re: #216 littleoldlady

May G-d bless and keep Angela Merkel!

Yeah, Germany seems to have this strange aversion to messianic leaders who try and promote massive change to the country, start youth movements, and create civilian security forces.

Go figure.

222 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:31:32am

re: #214 Erik The Red

Morning Blue. Are you at work?

yeah, what he said....

wtf was up with the other night?

223 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:31:39am

re: #214 Erik The Red

Nah, still at home. Nothing heard yet. Can't sleep for some reason. :p

224 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:32:33am

re: #221 gmsc

Yeah, Germany seems to have this strange, American induced, aversion to messianic leaders who try and promote massive change to the country, start youth movements, and create civilian security forces.

Go figure.

FTFY!

225 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:33:02am

re: #223 BlueCanuck

Nah, still at home. Nothing heard yet. Can't sleep for some reason. :p

my advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

226 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:33:35am

re: #224 redc1c4

FTFY!

Thanks! Nice touch.

227 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:33:56am

re: #225 redc1c4

Good call. If I can afford it, if I have an idea what's going on. Might just have to.

228 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:34:09am

re: #223 BlueCanuck

Nah, still at home. Nothing heard yet. Can't sleep for some reason. :p

Shit Blue I also wonder why you can't sleep.

229 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:34:21am

re: #225 redc1c4

my advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

and my advice to me is to go to bed: lots to do in the daylight, and nowhere near enough time to do it in.....

hasta y'all.....

L8r!

230 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:34:47am

re: #229 redc1c4

and my advice to me is to go to bed: lots to do in the daylight, and nowhere near enough time to do it in.....

hasta y'all.....

L8r!

G'Nite, Red!

231 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:35:09am

Night red, sleep well.

232 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:35:25am

re: #229 redc1c4

G'nights, Red.........

233 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:35:34am

Morning, Blue!

234 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:35:45am

re: #227 BlueCanuck

Good call. If I can afford it, if I have an idea what's going on. Might just have to.

just say the magic words and get on with things, instead of stewing....

(what are the magic words? "fuck it." %-)

235 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:36:41am

Listening to the Moody Blues and then I'm out for sure.

236 LynnfromNZ  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:37:05am

re: #18 Pietr

A guy goes skydiving for the first time. The instructor says "To activate your chute, pull this cord."

"Okay," the guy says, "what if the chute doesn't open?"

"Then you pull this cord to activate the emergency chute."

"Okay, what if that done doesn't work?"

"Then you pray to Buddha," the instructor said.

They're up in the plane, and it's time to go out. The guy jumps, and he's loving the free fall, then he thinks it's time to deploy the chute. Pulls the ripcord, nothing happens. Okay, he thinks, no problem, pulls the second cord, nothing happens.

Now he's getting nervous. He tries to think what did that guy say to... oh yeah. He starts praying "Buddha! Buddha! Save me, please!"

And this huge hand swoops out of the sky and carries him away in its palm. Relieved beyond belief, the man whimpers "Oh thank God."

SMACK! on the ground.

(Joke best told with a knee handy to act out the smack.)

237 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:37:26am

re: #210 Killian Bundy

It's hard to increase demand when more and more people are losing their jobs, and folks are cutting back their spending. Regardless of the PR from the Pollyannas in the government, most people know we won't be back to the prosperity we had anytime soon (in my lifetime), and the rampant spending that caused the boom is history.

Patti Anne Brown? Of all the drop dead gorgeous women on FoxNews you dream of Patti Anne Brown?

/I mean, she's pretty and all...

238 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:38:26am

'Night, red! :-)

re: #235 Pvt Bin Jammin

Listening to the Moody Blues and then I'm out for sure.

Aw come on! 20 minutes to fruitcup.

/and red has left... ;-)

239 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:38:42am

Heh, I got a kick out of this Facebook Event Invitation for a get-together at my buddy's apartment --

Come start the quarter off right! Catch up with everybody, come chill, and have a good time! Best of all, we will be celebrating Andrew's big 2 2 !

So come out for a night of fun, laughter, boos, beer pong, and debauchery!

BYOB...it's a recession people!

PS: If you're bringing a friend, please run it by us before, we don't want to get evicted lol

The event creator was a huge 0bama supporter follower.

240 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:39:45am

Blue,

Is there anyone you can call to find out what's going on?

/rather than worry yourself into illness?

241 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:39:58am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Could you throw a few prunes in my fruit cup?
Damned vicodin cause me to need fiber therapy.

242 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:40:43am

REGULATION ON THE MARCH

When black cars are banned in California, only criminals will have black cars. Which they prefer, as it happens. Also in California:

The California Energy Commission is considering a proposal that would ban California retailers from selling all but the most energy-efficient televisions. Critics say the new standards could take 25 percent of televisions off the market — most of them 40 inches or larger.

Even by Californian standards, the place is in a regulation frenzy:

An issue that briefly brought President Barack Obama ridicule on the campaign trail last year is gaining traction in California, where air regulators are seeking to mandate proper tire inflation as a way to reduce fuel consumption.

(Via Antony K.)

243 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:42:04am

More fruit cup. Christopher Walken said it best. He said it about Cowbell not fruit cup. I tried to find him saying fruit cup and couldn't so imagine him saying "fruit cup" instead of "cowbell".

Youtube Video
244 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:42:04am

What's the difference between a golfer and a skydiver?

One goes *WHACK* "Shit!", the other goes "Shit!" *WHACK*.

245 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:42:16am

re: #241 IslandLibertarian

OY. Okay.

/but it's your very own CUSTOM fruitcup.
//can't afford all that extra toilet paper for the entire Dead Thread crew...

What's the vicodin for?

246 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:42:49am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Yeah, in about four hours I can. If I am still awake. Bastard. Wish the prick had called me when he should have.

247 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:43:16am

re: #242 gmsc

REGULATION ON THE MARCH

I hate this place. HATE IT!

248 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:43:58am

BatGuano! :-)

/sorry. in rant mode. ;-)

249 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:44:24am

Japan and Hong Kong markets both down over 4.5%. Dow futures down 2.5%.

Therere: #246 BlueCanuck

Yeah, in about four hours I can. If I am still awake. Bastard. Wish the prick had called me when he should have.

Maybe he is planning on being out of the country. In case you try and hunt him down :)

250 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:44:42am

re: #245 littleoldlady

herniated c5 c6 c7 discs. a real pain in the neck........and shoulders........and arms........and right hand.........

251 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:45:52am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Eighteen minutes, now. I guess I will stay.

252 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:46:01am

re: #247 TheMatrix31

I hate this place. HATE IT!

I live in California for almost 30 years. I'm glad to be out!

Judging by the number of people fleeing California vs. coming in, many agree with me.

253 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:46:03am

re: #248 littleoldlady

BatGuano! :-)

/sorry. in rant mode. ;-)


Shine on you crazy diamond. :)

254 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:46:25am

re: #247 TheMatrix31

Excerpt from your link;

Scene in a California prison:

Prisoner 1: “What are you in for?”

Prisoner 2: “Murder. But I’m getting out next week. The judge says the prison is overcrowded.”

Prisoner 1: “Really?”

Prisoner 2: “Yeah, great, huh. By the way, what are you in for?”

Prisoner 1: “I forgot to put air in my tires.”

Prisoner 2: “Whoa, I don’t realize you were doing life. Good luck with that.”

255 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:46:46am

re: #249 Erik The Red

Don't give me ideas. Please, don't give me THOSE kind of ideas. :)

256 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:47:22am

re: #246 BlueCanuck

Set the alarm!

/it's better knowing...

257 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:48:08am

re: #251 Pvt Bin Jammin

Eighteen minutes, now. I guess I will stay.

So, listen to the Moody Blues again.......:>))

258 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:48:08am

re: #237 littleoldlady

It's hard to increase demand when more and more people are losing their jobs, and folks are cutting back their spending. Regardless of the PR from the Pollyannas in the government, most people know we won't be back to the prosperity we had anytime soon (in my lifetime), and the rampant spending that caused the boom is history.>

Consumer demand is inching up along with housing data and other data isn't getting worse. Employment is the last thing to turn around.

/it was one dream and I can explain, dreams are essentially sorting the contents of your near term memory and filing it into long term memory folders, although I did check to see if Patti Anne was a pilot and she isn't

259 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:48:29am

re: #252 gmsc

I live in California for almost 30 years. I'm glad to be out!

Judging by the number of people fleeing California vs. coming in, many agree with me.

I want to make my family part of that statistic.

260 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:48:45am

re: #250 IslandLibertarian

herniated c5 c6 c7 discs. a real pain in the neck........and shoulders........and arms........and right hand.........

Oh my! :-( I'm so sorry! You must be in a TON of pain.

/THREE disks?!

261 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:49:54am

re: #244 gmsc

What's the difference between a golfer and a skydiver?

One goes *WHACK* "Shit!", the other goes "Shit!" *WHACK*.

Heh! I'm liking that one.

262 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:50:14am

re: #259 TheMatrix31

I want to make my family part of that statistic.

I'm thinking about it but I hate to have to leave my home of 34 years and let *them* win. Can't surf in flyover country either.

263 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:50:41am

re: #258 Killian Bundy

Consumer demand is inching up along with housing data and other data isn't getting worse. Employment is the last thing to turn around.

I hope you are right, Killian, but I suspect the real poop hasn't hit the oscillating device yet.

/there WILL be hell to pay for all the machinations of the government

264 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:51:10am

re: #209 IslandLibertarian

You've been at it longer than me, although I hope to make up some ground. It's really a shame that I missed the very end of long-haul passenger service in Mexico, but I've ridden the rails in other parts of Latin America (Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, Paraguay) as well as Ireland, New Zealand, some of S. Korea and a few parts of Canada.

Too bad I didn't have my crystal ball with me when the last time I was up in Canada (2002). I went up to British Columbia to catch VIA rail's Malahat on Vancouver Island because pretty much everybody was convinced that that particular train had less than a month to go before it got the axe. Meanwhile, on the mainland, the British Columbia Railway had full-fledged passenger and excursion service out of N. Vancouver- I figured BC Rail's operation would be around alot longer, but within two years BC Rail ceased all passenger operations and sold off their passenger equipment while Vancouver Island's Malahat was still trundling along five days a week- and as far as I know still does to this day [Similar thing happened when I went to Argentina- I was convinced I was there for the last days of long-distance rail travel in Argentina when I think they have more passenger train routes there now than when I was there 10 years ago.....]

There was also the extremely favorable excahnge rate at the time (US$1 = C$1.75) so if nothing else, I should've just gone back to the US with a fistful of C$100 or C$50 bills and put them in a safety deposit box (or used them to buy Gold Maple Leafs @ my friendly neighborhood Scotiabank branch before leaving Canada) for the next trip up there. At the time, I wasn't able to think more long-term regarding the favorable exchange rate then I guess I'm having steak tonight instead of Subway- altho towards the end of my trip, even with the favorable exchange rate I wound up dining at Subway an awful lot

265 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:52:43am

Good Morning, LittleOldLady and other Lizards.

I'm back after Four days away from LGF.
< withdrawal symptoms subsiding>

/Do I need LGF Rehab ?

266 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:53:02am

BTW, littleoldlady, did you see my performance at #133?

It might help cheer you up.

267 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:54:12am

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

Fruitcup therapy coming up! ;-)

268 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:54:22am

re: #250 IslandLibertarian

My poor husband has his surgery coming up for the C5, C6 thing. He also has arthritis and had to stop with the Celebrex and the asprin so he is in a world of hurt. Can't get the blood too thin before the surgery. Vicodin just doesn't agree with him.

269 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:54:38am

re: #260 littleoldlady

Two discs between 3 vertebrate.........some dull pain and numbness is constant, I can live with that. But the heavy pain comes and goes and can be tough.
So I only drug when I have to.

270 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:54:41am

re: #263 littleoldlady

I hope you are right, Killian, but I suspect the real poop hasn't hit the oscillating device yet.

/there WILL be hell to pay for all the machinations of the government

This Week: March 30 - April 3, 2009

Monday, March 30, 2009
10:30 a.m. Feb Dallas Fed Mfg Production Index: Previous: -36.1.

Tuesday, March 31, 2009
7:45 a.m. ICSC Chain Store Sales Index For Mar 28: Previous: -0.4%.
8:55 a.m. Redbook Retail Sales Index For Mar 28: Previous: -0.2%.
9:00 a.m. Jan S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Index: Previous: -19.2%.
9:45 a.m. Mar Chicago PMI: Expected: 34.5. Previous: 34.2.
10:00 a.m. Mar Conference Board Consumer Confidence: Expected: 27.7. Previous: 25.
4:30 p.m. API Oil Industry Report For Mar 27
5:00 p.m. ABC/Wash Post Consumer Conf For Mar 28: Previous: -49.

Wednesday, April 1, 2009
7:00 a.m. MBA Mortgage Applications For Mar 27: Previous: +41.5%.
8:15 a.m. Mar ADP Employment Survey: Expected: -646K. Previous: -697K.
10:00 a.m. Mar ISM Manufacturing Index: Expected: 35.8. Previous: 35.8.
10:00 a.m. Feb Construction Spending: Expected: -2%. Previous: -3.3%.
10:00 a.m. Feb Pending Home Sales: Expected: 0.1%. Previous: -7.7%.
10:30 a.m. U.S. Energy Dept Oil Inventories For Mar 27

Thursday, April 2, 2009
8:30 a.m. Initial Jobless Claims For Mar 28 Week: Expected: +3K. Previous: +8K.
10:00 a.m. Feb Factory Orders: Expected: +2%. Previous: -1.9%.
10:00 a.m. DJ-BTMU Business Barometer For Mar 21: Previous: -0.9%.

Friday, April 3, 2009
8:30 a.m. Mar Non-Farm Payrolls: Expected: -671K. Previous: -651K.
8:30 a.m. Mar Unemployment Rate: Expected: 8.5%. Previous: 8.1%.
10:00 a.m. Mar ISM Non-Manufacturing Index: Expected: 42. Previous: 41.6.

/the economic data is the economic data, I watch it every day but I don't control it

271 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:54:45am

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

Fenway, the exchange rate is currently around 75 cents U.S. to the Canuck dollar.

Did you get to ride on the Royal Hudson?

We also have a steam excursion that runs from Camrose to Big Valley, not far from my stompin' grounds.

272 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:54:52am

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

I kinda remember the old days. Back when I was about 3, rode the train from Toronto all the way to Saskatchewan. I have a few memories of that trip, one being of the dining car. Rest of the trip all I remember was cold, snow and flat. Seriously flat.

273 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:55:00am

re: #262 ArchangelMichael

I'm thinking about it but I hate to have to leave my home of 34 years and let *them* win. Can't surf in flyover country either.

Luckily since we've been in LA, we've been renting. The attachment to my childhood home is stronger than ever but that home is in Fresno.

The last two addresses of my life have been all "house" and no "home".

274 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:55:59am

re: #252 gmsc


Judging by the number of people fleeing California vs. coming in, many agree with me.

The complete crash of the new housing construction, on which a significant amount of California's prosperity rested over the previous few years, caused many people to not find jobs. I noticed a real drop in the number of day-laborers standing around the usual spots (e.g. corners near Home Depot).

275 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:56:22am

re: #257 Pietr

So, listen to the Moody Blues again.......:>))

I love them but I have to say they are better in the studio than they are live.

276 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:56:24am

re: #209 IslandLibertarian

I've ridden trains all over the world. Steel wheels on rails drugs my soul.
Best train trip was from Mexicali to Mazatlan in 1967.
Remember going cross country in the early '50s in a pulman. Bliss!

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

A friend in Kalifornia, Jewish-but not very strict, goes to a lot of trade shows around the world-and likes trains. Has been to many trade shows in Germany, but refuses to ride the trains there. He said he couldn't live with the past that would impinge his psyche on German tracks......

277 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:56:30am

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

Always take the Taggart line.

278 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:57:26am

re: #266 gmsc

WOW!

279 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:59:25am

re: #274 freetoken

The complete crash of the new housing construction, on which a significant amount of California's prosperity rested over the previous few years, caused many people to not find jobs. I noticed a real drop in the number of day-laborers standing around the usual spots (e.g. corners near Home Depot).

I've heard many people talk about the 20% drop in tourism to Vegas. I like to point out the bright side – that a 20% drop from 750,000 people/week still leaves 600,000 visitors a week!

Do you know how many cities in the US alone are incredibly jealous of 600,000 tourists each week in this economy?

280 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:59:35am

re: #278 littleoldlady

WOW!

:)

Thanks.

281 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 1:59:50am

re: #275 Pvt Bin Jammin

I love them but I have to say they are better in the studio than they are live.

That is a 2005 concert-and I was surprised how well they did-his voice was almost as I remember from the original.....

282 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:02am

I hear the sound of marching, charging fruitcup.

283 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

284 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:10am

I don't know...

I am a much bigger fan of the more modern forms of the "human beat box".

285 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:21am

re: #266 gmsc
That was clever magic ?

I reckon you should claim Randi's $1 Million. We'll witness that we saw it !

/In The Bag

286 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:26am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! Thanks!

287 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:49am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Thanks LoL....Looking for my jokes...

288 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:00:56am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
!

Wow, you really outdid yourself this morning.

289 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:01:00am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Thank you littleoldlady!

290 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:01:16am

re: #285 Pass The Moonbaticide


That was clever magic ?

I reckon you should claim Randi's $1 Million. We'll witness that we saw it !

/In The Bag

Slight problem – it wasn't exactly caused by supernatural phenomena.
;)

291 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:01:23am

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

In NZ, did you take the train from Christchurch over to Hokotika?
I rode the Amtrac between Sacramento and Tacoma, beautiful scenery.
Italy has great trains.
I'd hope they'd make a comeback in the States.

292 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:02:04am

Thank you for the fruitcup, littleoldlady!

293 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:02:07am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Thanks

294 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:02:10am

Alberta Oil Peon! :-)

gmsc! :-)

Pietr! :-)

freetoken! :-)

Where's the chocolate?! ;-)

BatGuano! :-)

295 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:02:23am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Not now there's not !

/sneaks away with entire buffet to deal with four-Day addiction craving

296 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:03:02am

re: #282 Alberta Oil Peon

You must be a street fight'n man

297 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:03:03am

Erik! :-)

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

298 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:03:27am

re: #268 Pvt Bin Jammin

Had the surgery 2 1/2 yrs ago............kinda helped...........now I do traction and stretching......massage...acupuncture......vicodin...asprin...ibuprophen...etc.....

299 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:03:30am

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. I think I will turn in and set the alarm clock. Find out what the hell is going on.

300 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:03:58am

re: #281 Pietr

That is a 2005 concert-and I was surprised how well they did-his voice was almost as I remember from the original.....

That was great. I saw them at the Greek Theater, Hollywood. It was probably around 1978. It was cool but not as good as the one you posted.

301 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:04:21am

re: #294 littleoldlady

Where's the chocolate?! ;-)

:-)

Umm... does that mean you didn't see it, or that you ate it already?

/BTW, did you know that A diet rich in dietary fiber from cocoa improves lipid profile and reduces malondialdehyde in hypercholesterolemic rats.

302 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:04:33am

re: #290 gmsc
The modesty ... 'Course it was !

Not even recognising his own 'powers'

303 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:04:38am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Spring Quarter Fruitcup!

304 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:04:45am

re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't know...

I am a much bigger fan of the more modern forms of the "human beat box".

What do you get when you cross a human beat box with a mathematician?

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
305 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:04:52am

re: #296 BatGuano

You must be a street fight'n man

That's what I was riffing on, alright.

306 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:06:02am

re: #299 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. I think I will turn in and set the alarm clock. Find out what the hell is going on.

Later Blue. Drop me a mail when you hear something.

307 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:06:11am

re: #301 freetoken

Okay, in english for us none chemistry majors. :p

308 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:06:39am

re: #301 freetoken

Umm... does that mean you didn't see it, or that you ate it already?

/BTW, did you know that A diet rich in dietary fiber from cocoa improves lipid profile and reduces malondialdehyde in hypercholesterolemic rats.

Yeah, I was worried about my hypercholesterolemic rats.

309 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:07:21am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

W00T! I made it, thanks!

I needed a little snack before bedtime.

"Nite. It's late for me.

310 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:07:24am

re: #270 Killian Bundy

A weensie bit of good news in there, but I think there's still a lot of things that the market has not factored in.

/we shall see
//my crystal ball is still in the shop...

311 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:07:34am

re: #302 Pass The Moonbaticide


The modesty ... 'Course it was !

Not even recognising his own 'powers'

You make a persuasive argument. That settles it – You win!

312 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:08:00am

re: #306 Erik The Red

Will do. have a good night. And keep the rest of dem dere famblies on der toes, see?

313 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:08:15am

{BlueCanuck!}

We're all rootin' for you! GOOD LUCK!

314 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:09:00am

re: #283 littleoldlady

Thanks, but these are the smallest prunes I've ever see.........HEY! These are rasins!
...but the best I've ever tasted..........mmmmmm..........fruit-cup.........

315 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:09:16am

The way things are going, Avanti and I will be the only Lizards driving cars not made by a government-owned company.

316 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:10:17am

re: #301 freetoken

I'm a very healthy...um...rat?

;-)

'Night, Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

Great to see you!

Matrix! :-)

317 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:10:26am

re: #315 Alberta Oil Peon

The way things are going, Avanti and I will be the only Lizards driving cars not made by a government-owned company.

Ooohhh...GASP....You invoked that which should not be named.......

318 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:10:40am

re: #313 littleoldlady
LoL, do you ever watch a TV series called 'Cold Case' ?
It's set in Philadelphia. I was curious whether you watch it to see familiar landmarks, etc.

319 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:11:04am

re: #310 littleoldlady

A weensie bit of good news in there, but I think there's still a lot of things that the market has not factored in.

/we shall see
//my crystal ball is still in the shop...

/the markets are always trading at least six months down the road, they are a leading indicator

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:11:28am

re: #304 gmsc

Where do you find that stuff? I mean, I was alive during the '80s, but I don't remember "Square One" at all.

321 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:12:18am

re: #318 Pass The Moonbaticide


LoL, do you ever watch a TV series called 'Cold Case' ?
It's set in Philadelphia. I was curious whether you watch it to see familiar landmarks, etc.

Best Philly-set show is "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia"!

322 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:13:26am

re: #314 IslandLibertarian

Thanks, but these are the smallest prunes I've ever see.........HEY! These are rasins!
...but the best I've ever tasted..........mmmmmm..........fruit-cup.........

Prunes? Did you say prunes?

323 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:14:09am

re: #307 BlueCanuck

Okay, in english for us none chemistry majors. :p

Eat more chocolate. And on those rare occasions when LoL serves us chocolate with fruit, eat a double triple portion!

324 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:14:53am

re: #271 Alberta Oil Peon

Fenway, the exchange rate is currently around 75 cents U.S. to the Canuck dollar.

Did you get to ride on the Royal Hudson?

We also have a steam excursion that runs from Camrose to Big Valley, not far from my stompin' grounds.

Alas, I did not get to ride the Royal Hudson, although I understand that the Canadian Pacific purchased it shortly after BC Rail went under and is using it for executive trains, charters and PR purposes these days.

I did get to ride the vintage Buddliners on Vancouver Island (self-propelled diesel passenger cars that aren't much newer than the Royal Hudson). I'm not sure what the highlight was- me seeing my first-ever bald eagle (which was flying apace my window) or the unbelievably cute ½ Japanese ½ Quebecois woman who was convinced I was the conductor.

This month's Trains actually has a write-up on the Alberta Prarie Railway. Looks like a worthwhile side-trip while travelling between Calgary and Edmonton.

re #272 BlueCanuck

My grandmother got to travel trans-Canada by train in the 40s. I think it was the first time she ever left New England....

I wouldn't mind trying that myself sometime.

325 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:15:46am

re: #318 Pass The Moonbaticide


LoL, do you ever watch a TV series called 'Cold Case' ?
It's set in Philadelphia. I was curious whether you watch it to see familiar landmarks, etc.

Coincidently, I heard on the radio that they're in town right now filming the season finale. Most of it is done in Hollywood. No, I've never seen it. (But I DO have an old copy of Rocky lying around somewhere, in case I want to see Philadelphia on film. ;-)

326 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:15:48am

re: #320 Slumbering Behemoth

Where do you find that stuff? I mean, I was alive during the '80s, but I don't remember "Square One" at all.

Square One TV was a PBS show focused on teaching mathematical concepts. The range of topics was pretty impressive, covering everything from simple addition, all the way up things like complex problem-solving and triangulation!

It was down my alley, and I regularly watched it, so I guess it wasn't too hard to remember and look for.

As a matter of fact, I just posted a whole list of similar links in my Fun and Free (and Nostalgic!) Learning Resources post on my blog.

327 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:16:31am

re: #323 freetoken

Eat more chocolate. And on those rare occasions when LoL serves us chocolate with fruit, eat a double triple portion!

Sorry. That's not in the budget!

;-)

328 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:17:29am

Let me drift into somber stuff. A man killed 2 out of his 3 sisters in Boston, another goes on a shooting rampage in an NC Nursing Home; these are the latest atrocities we hear of. Is it 'the End Times' , where chaos grows before the final struggle between good and evil? Just wanted to throw that out there.....

329 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:19:11am

re: #328 Pietr

Let me drift into somber stuff. A man killed 2 out of his 3 sisters in Boston, another goes on a shooting rampage in an NC Nursing Home; these are the latest atrocities we hear of. Is it 'the End Times' , where chaos grows before the final struggle between good and evil? Just wanted to throw that out there.....

That sort of thing was always around, but in years past, it only made the news in the local area affected. Now, it gets on national and international networks, because, if it bleeds, it leads.

330 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:20:10am

re: #328 Pietr

Let me drift into somber stuff. A man killed 2 out of his 3 sisters in Boston, another goes on a shooting rampage in an NC Nursing Home; these are the latest atrocities we hear of. Is it 'the End Times' , where chaos grows before the final struggle between good and evil? Just wanted to throw that out there.....

Shake it off.

/Obama too will pass

331 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:23:30am

Fenway,

Who was that baseball player (a big star) who played against the Phillies in a World Series in the 80's who had a very public case of hemorrhoids?

When he returned to play he had the Best Line Ever: It's all behind me now!

332 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:24:15am

re: #329 Alberta Oil Peon

That sort of thing was always around, but in years past, it only made the news in the local area affected. Now, it gets on national and international networks, because, if it bleeds, it leads.

But, the amount of bleeding leads keep growing-and all are more horrific than previous ones. It's as if the more one hears, the more others set out to imitate-and it just keeps getting worse. The Boston murderer cut off his 5 year old sisters' head, on her birthday.....it just continues getting more horrific....:>((

333 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:25:52am

re: #332 Pietr

But, the amount of bleeding leads keep growing-and all are more horrific than previous ones. It's as if the more one hears, the more others set out to imitate-and it just keeps getting worse. The Boston murderer cut off his 5 year old sisters' head, on her birthday.....it just continues getting more horrific....:>((

I think there is an element of copy-cat behavior amongst some of those creeps, and the media are to some extent complicit.

334 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:26:12am

re: #328 Pietr

We are in some form of "end of times". On another thread I urged all LGFer's to search their holy books, writings and whatever. It is getting to the point where I can't bear to learn the details of what people are doing to each other. Events seem to be coming to a head. I have my own beliefs but things seem to be getting more brutal as the days go by.

335 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:27:26am

re: #318 Pass The Moonbaticide


LoL, do you ever watch a TV series called 'Cold Case' ?
It's set in Philadelphia. I was curious whether you watch it to see familiar landmarks, etc.

I have a tough time watching things that are filmed here in Las Vegas, unless they're very careful in their shooting (CSI does a fairly good job).

Rain Man has to be the worst offender. In one scene, they're driving down the strip, but some of the casinos they pass are on the east side of the strip, and others on the west side, yet the scene implies that they never make a single u-turn, much less the 5 or so that would be required.

It gets even worse when they win at Caesar's Palace (made abundantly clear by the close-up shots of the cards and the card table), and are comped a room. The view outside their room shows a Caesar's Palace sign, but from an angle you'd only get from staying in Harrah's or the Flamingo!

336 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:27:39am

My AOL just freaked. When I restarted and came back into what I thought was this thread, there were comments by Charles ! I thought we were being visited by The Master !

Seems that the Spinnof links that fill at the top pushed the thread away just as I was clicking on the last comment link.

/As you were. Stand at Ease.

337 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:28:00am

re: #334 BatGuano

We are in some form of "end of times". On another thread I urged all LGFer's to search their holy books, writings and whatever. It is getting to the point where I can't bear to learn the details of what people are doing to each other. Events seem to be coming to a head. I have my own beliefs but things seem to be getting more brutal as the days go by.

We're 1 week closer to the end times than we were this time last week!
;)

338 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:29:53am

Time for a nap. Good night, one and all. Don't dwell too much on that which you cannot change.

339 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:30:04am

re: #338 Alberta Oil Peon

Time for a nap. Good night, one and all. Don't dwell too much on that which you cannot change.

Good night, AOP!

340 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:30:08am

re: #337 gmsc

We're 1 week closer to the end times than we were this time last week!
;)

Well, I'll take "end times" over the NYTimes, anyday.....at least the first guarantees salvation.....

341 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:30:29am

re: #328 Pietr

Same as it ever was. These atrocities are neither new nor indicative of social decline. Some folks like to point to these things and state that this is "The End", and that such things were absent in previous generations. Not true. These things are certainly appalling, but are nothing new in the course of human events.

Same as it ever was.

342 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:30:30am

re: #337 gmsc
I bought a calendar from the Eschatological Society, but had to return it as there were no dates after 17th July.

/

343 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:31:11am

re: #335 gmsc

I think Trading Places did that to Philadelphia.

/Hey! That's a one-way street! WRONG WAY!

344 TheMatrix31  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:31:33am

re: #341 Slumbering Behemoth

Same as it ever was. These atrocities are neither new nor indicative of social decline. Some folks like to point to these things and state that this is "The End", and that such things were absent in previous generations. Not true. These things are certainly appalling, but are nothing new in the course of human events.

Same as it ever was.

I do think we're going to see some increased civil unrest as hopenchange takes effect.

345 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:31:50am

re: #336 Pass The Moonbaticide

My AOL

/you're going to need an internet intervention

346 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:33:08am

re: #327 littleoldlady

Sorry. That's not in the budget!

;-)

You could always apply for a bailout...

347 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:33:51am

re: #344 TheMatrix31

I doubt it. My personal opinion. But that has nothing to do with the spirit of Pietr's post.

348 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:35:26am

re: #346 freetoken

You could always apply for a bailout...

I don't think I qualify for the No Banker Left Behind program...

:-(

349 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:35:33am

re: #342 Pass The Moonbaticide


I bought a calendar from the Eschatological Society, but had to return it as there were no dates after 17th July.

/

*RIMSHOT*

350 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:35:43am

re: #337 gmsc

Absolutely right. The end times are in our future and will come. Increasingly, we must accept trepidations without an adequate explanation. WTF is going on in our society and the world?

351 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:36:18am

re: #291 IslandLibertarian

In NZ, did you take the train from Christchurch over to Hokotika?
I rode the Amtrac between Sacramento and Tacoma, beautiful scenery.
Italy has great trains.
I'd hope they'd make a comeback in the States.

Hokotika isn't ringing any bells for me. However, While in NZ, I took the train from Christchurch to Greymouth (on the west coast of South Island). It was kind of interesting- I just happened to be in Christchurch when they were hosting a barbershop quartet convention- alot of the attendees were on the train that day and gave a performance at one of the extended station stops. I went on a brewery tour of Monteith's in Greymouth and actually missed the return train to Christchurch by 5 minutes or so- but the station agent found a cabbie who was more than willing to outrace the train to the next siding. It was as close as one could get to The French Connection in rural New Zealand.

It would be nice if we could get some more comprehensive passenger rail here, but considering that A) the freight railways own most of the track and tend to view passenger service as a liability and B) the staggering amount of commodities and raw matieriel that gets shipped to market or export by train compared to Japan or Europe, that's a long ways off.

But it's not all doom and gloom- there are several reigonal corridors (aside from the Northeast corridor form Washington D.C. to Boston) that continue to get upgraded (Vancouver B.C. to Portland, OR; San Diego to Santa Barbara, CA; San Jose to Sacramento & Bakersfield, CA) and states like Oklahoma, Maine and North Carolina are lobbying for increased Amtrak service. Cities like Salt Lake City, Albequerque and Nashville have started their own commuter rail service as well...

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:37:55am

re: #350 BatGuano

WTF is going on in our society and the world?

The same thing that has always been going on. These are not the "End Times", these are the "All Times".

Nothing new under the sun. Same as it ever was.

353 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:38:22am

re: #331 littleoldlady

I wanna say George Brett, but I could be wrong.

/The next-to-last Phillies WS win took place when I was a wee lad more interested in playing in the sandbox than the sandlot...

354 freetoken  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:39:31am

I've made it to 5:35 on the McLeroy video downstairs. This is really painful to watch. I suppose he is a fine dentist and probably a decent person on many matters, but it is just painful to watch someone flail like that when they are definitely out of their environment.

355 LynnfromNZ  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:40:11am

re: #353 Fenway_Nation

It was Brett. My favorite player growing up.

356 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:40:25am

re: #348 littleoldlady

I don't think I qualify for the No Banker Left Behind program...

:-(

From the blogfather:

BANKERS: Take Your TARP Money Back. “There’s a growing sense among some bankers that Troubled Asset Relief Program known as ‘TARP’ has become toxic. As a result, they want to bail out of the bank bailout program.” The country’s in the very best of hands.

...and speaking of "The Country's in the Very Best of Hands":

THE COUNTRY’S IN THE VERY BEST OF HANDS: If you wonder where that reference comes from, watch this clip. Note how the lyrics fit just as well today . . . . “Don’t worry ’bout the principle and interest that accrues . . . they’re shippin’ all that stuff to foreign lands.”

(Below is a different clip that the link above)

Youtube Video
357 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:41:20am

As we're entolled in the LGF School, can't LittleOldLady apply for some of the $100 Billion set aside for 'Education' ?

PS Why don't Governments ever spend any more ?
Everything is 'Investment' now.

358 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:42:12am

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

So, perhaps with modern communications we are able to learn more about our world?

359 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:43:31am

re: #353 Fenway_Nation

Boy! You're GOOD! :-)

Brett then hit .375 in the 1980 World Series, but the Royals lost in six games to the Philadelphia Phillies. During the Series, Brett made headlines after leaving Game 2 in the 6th inning due to hemorrhoid pain. Brett had minor surgery the next day, and in Game 3 returned to hit a home run as the Royals won in 10 innings 4-3. In 1981 he missed two weeks of Spring training to have his hemorrhoids removed.[2]

360 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:44:18am

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

Same as it ever was...? No i wont post to the video. :)

361 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:45:38am

Mornin folks...it's a vunderbar day in the neighborhood: Some unknown number of terrorists storm and take-over a police academy in Lahore where al-Reuters estimates the number of dead stands @ 20 but where there could be anywhere from 400 to 800(?) hostages. (Note to Obummer: Send lots more money.)

Yemen is extraditing some five terrorists back to the Klingdom one of whom is on the Fraudi’s list of 85 most wanted, 35 of whom are suspected of being in Iran and getting terrorist training.

And last but not least of my early morning digest, Obummer’s newest, bestest pal Medvedev is getting all set to pump-up our Idiot-and-Chief on a new START treaty which I think we can safely presume means Obummer unilaterally disarms while the Russian’s arm to the teeth.

Happy days are here again....

362 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:45:39am

re: #356 gmsc

OMG! That movie was just on TV yesterday!

363 Pietr  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:46:25am

Well, Lizard Nation, this scaley one is going to seek warm sand.....Later, and pleasant day to all.....:>))

364 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:46:36am

re: #362 littleoldlady

OMG! That movie was just on TV yesterday!

That's probably where Prof. Reynolds caught it.

365 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:47:03am

re: #353 Fenway_Nation

I wanna say George Brett, but I could be wrong.

Youtube Video

/no, that's it!

366 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:48:08am

re: #361 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

aboo! :-)

You're too late. I was depressed even BEFORE you got here.

367 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:48:24am

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm going to read the book of Ecclesiastes again.

368 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:48:37am

See ya, Pietr! :-)

369 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:51:16am

re: #367 BatGuano
There is a time to read, a time to refrain from reading.

/Add that to the list in Ch.3

370 gmsc  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:51:20am

re: #363 Pietr

Well, Lizard Nation, this scaley one is going to seek warm sand.....Later, and pleasant day to all.....:>))

G'Nite, Pietr!

I'm going to hit the hay myself.

Good night, all!

371 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:52:43am

re: #370 gmsc

G'night gmsc.

372 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:53:06am

Oh...and for the record- this is coming from someone who unabashedly loves rail transport- the L.A. to Vegas MagLev is a fucking pipe dream! The only group that will be 'stimulated' by this are the lawyers who will gum up the project with nuisance lawsuits and 'impact studies'.

How do I know? Union Pacific's been trying to lengthen sidings on their existing Southern California-Las Vegas freigh trackage for years and they keep getting hindered by these same lawyers and enviromentalists. Now if they're having a hard time adding more capacity to an already existing rail line, what do you think the odds are that something as labor and energy-intensive as a MagLev railway built from scratch will be completed on budget and on scedule? Unless the magnets are powered by electicity generated from burning unicorn farts...

That really is too bad, since even a regular Amtrak train could probably do quite well in terms of ridership, since the last time I was on that stretch of I-15 in the Mojave desert, it was very much under construction and I'm not sure what sucks worse than a traffic jam in the middle of the desert....

373 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:53:14am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

374 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:57:28am

re: #370 gmsc


Nite gmsc!

375 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:58:14am

re: #361 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

terrorists storm and take-over a police academy in Lahore where al-Reuters estimates the number of dead stands @ 20 but where there could be anywhere from 400 to 800(?) hostages..

Wow, eating their own young.

/what happens in Lahore, stays in Lahore, it's all red on red, more faster

376 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:58:55am

Good mornin Lol :-)

Maybe we should move into the WH -skip the underpass resorts- if only to get what they're taking every morning. It must be some good chit. ;)

377 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 2:59:11am

re: #369 Pass The Moonbaticide

What is that? A time read and refrain from reading?

378 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:00:24am

re: #358 BatGuano

I think that is a part of it. In generations past, news (bad or otherwise) did not travel nearly as fast. Today Americans can know, up to the minute and in real time, what is happening overseas. Just a little over 100 years ago, the same news would have taken months to reach American shores. In this regard, I think a bit of information overload might be fueling some of the hysteria. Though there are certainly fluctuations, these horrible things we hear are not happening in greater volume or with more frequency than in generations past, it is just that we hear about them more often in this modern information age.

Another part of it might also be coming from those who wish to profit from selling doom and damnation. Merchants of the apocalypse know well how to take our fears and repackage them as profitable commodities.

379 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:01:03am

re: #375 Killian Bundy

Yeah...but what happens when they get to the nukes? Knowing the Paki's they'll definitely want to share.

380 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:04:40am

re: #361 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Mornin folks...it's a vunderbar day in the neighborhood: Some unknown number of terrorists storm and take-over a police academy in Lahore where al-Reuters estimates the number of dead stands @ 20 but where there could be anywhere from 400 to 800(?) hostages. (Note to Obummer: Send lots more money.)

If only they'd unclench.

381 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:04:42am

re: #377 BatGuano
Not read the Book of ecclesiastes, then ?

382 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:05:37am

re: #376 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Ohhhhhh! TENT CITY! I LIKE it!

Wasting Away in HooverObamaville

/or we can see what Ashley Biden has going...

383 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:08:10am

Big trouble in Pakistan today:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

This is getting worse.

384 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:11:00am

re: #381 Pass The Moonbaticide


Not read the Book of ecclesiastes, then ?

I've read it many times. Where does it say a time time to read and not read?

385 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:11:11am

re: #379 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Yeah...but what happens when they get to the nukes? Knowing the Paki's they'll definitely want to share.

They're not going get to the nukes, period. The warheads would be useless anyway.

/Obama aside, we still have our hand way up their ass and if we don't, it boils down to Presidential malfeasance

386 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:11:29am

British Cabinet Minister lodges Porn Movies expenses claim.

This sort of BS is coming your way by the truckload
now that you want to be like Europe.

387 Pass The Moonbaticide  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:12:17am

re: #384 BatGuano
It was a joke - I suggested it be added !

388 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:14:05am

re: #382 littleoldlady

Ohhhhhh! TENT CITY! I LIKE it!

Wasting Away in HooverObamaville

/or we can see what Ashley Biden has going...

Know where we can find her, it's going to be a looooog week? Strikes to be with Pak consent: Obama(today...tomorrows a different story, quack, quack)

Washington will strike Al Qaeda and Taliban targets in Pakistan “after consulting with” Islamabad, US President Barack Obama said in an interview aired on Sunday.

Gee...that'll sure reduce collateral casualties and make everyone happy, happy, happy.

Stronger drugs please.

389 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:14:54am

re: #385 Killian Bundy

Presidential malfeasance.

390 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:15:28am

From NDTV in India:

Lahore is under siege battling its second terrorist attack in a month. Heavily armed militants have attacked an elite police training academy in Manavan on the outskirts of Lahore, just 12 km from the Wagah border.

Police and army forces are engaged in a fierce encounter for well over four hours. Over 20 people have been killed and the number is expected to climb higher. Hundreds are reportedly injured.

However, two of the attackers have been killed in the firing by security forces while one suspect has been arrested from the scene of the crisis.

The attack comes less than a month after the attack on Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore.

A blast was heard and then eight to 10 attackers entered the training centre hurling hand grenades.

As per reports, the attackers came from two sides and were wearing police uniforms.

Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Mallik has ordered a judicial inquiry in the attack. While reacting to the attack, Malik said that they would try to catch the militants alive.

"Jehadi outfits have grown so much that it will take time to control them. This is an attack on Pakistan's unity and integrity," said Malik.

Malik said Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) and Taliban might be behind the attacks.

Security across Pakistan has been put on high alert.

Reacting to the attack in the neighbouring country, Vice Chief of Army Staff Lt General N Thumburaj said that India is ready for any spillover.

"India is ready for any spillover. We are watching the Pakistan situation carefully," said Lt General Thumburaj, adding that Pakistan instability affects India.

India has condemned the attacks.

Meanwhile, Union Home Minister P Chidambaram has said India sympathises with the Pakistan government, but no parallel of the attack can be drawn with the Mumbai attacks.

"Our sympathies are with the government and people of Pakistan. No parallel can be drawn between this and Mumbai attacks," said Chidambaram.

Trainee policemen were doing parade when the attackers came. They scaled the training centre wall and threw grenades on trainee policemen, said media reports.

Eight grenades were lobbed. The attackers are still inside the police training centre, and the firing between them and policemen is still on, the reports added.

As per the reports, around 1500 cadets, who were inside the training camp, have been held hostage by the attackers.

More elite forces have now been called in.

Meanwhile, Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has condemned the attack.

Parallels are being drawn with the recent attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore.

391 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:15:40am

Good morning, Lizards!

392 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:15:58am

re: #387 Pass The Moonbaticide

Ok. I misunderstood. You never know around here. All these lizards with all their various opinions. I go with reading all the time!

393 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:16:22am

re: #391 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

{goddess} Good Morning

394 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:16:47am

re: #391 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

Goddess! Good Morning.

395 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:17:07am

re: #383 astronmr20

Big trouble in Pakistan today:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

This is getting worse.

Quagmire!

Kinda makes me wonder what contingency plans the Indians have if the Taliban allied ISI sieze power.

/not sure how likely that is, since they had 10+ years to whack Musharraff but couldn't quite seal the deal.

396 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:17:18am

re: #389 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Presidential malfeasance.

What he meant to say was Just add it to the list.

/send more demerits!

397 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:18:00am

re: #385 Killian Bundy

They're not going get to the nukes, period. The warheads would be useless anyway.

/Obama aside, we still have our hand way up their ass and if we don't, it boils down to Presidential malfeasance

Yes, there are many safeguards, and a supposed US delta team ready to assist at a moments' notice.

However, the fact that the Islamic Shithole of Pakistan actually contains nukes makes the unthinkable far too close for comfort, despite the layers of fail-safes.

398 Buster Bunny  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:18:02am

re: #390 astronmr20

This is what the ISI training camps are producing. Pure heartless killers. And they arent going to stop with Pakistan. I can put money on it that these guys will strike where they can make the most damage and grab the best headlines.

Expect it. Trouble is now trained up and ready to go.

399 littleoldlady  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:18:03am

goddess! :-)

400 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:18:39am

re: #395 Fenway_Nation

Quagmire!

Kinda makes me wonder what contingency plans the Indians have if the Taliban allied ISI sieze power.

/not sure how likely that is, since they had 10+ years to whack Musharraff but couldn't quite seal the deal.

India was not going to attack with Musharaff in power. Why would they?

401 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:19:49am

re: #390 astronmr20

Wonder if the Lahore attackers got as close as they did because they had some police uniforms.

The Mumbai attackers didn't bother with the subterfuge of wearing police or military uniforms, did they?

402 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:20:53am

(Erike the Red)
{Bat Guano}
{littleoldlady}

403 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:21:47am

re: #401 Fenway_Nation

Wonder if the Lahore attackers got as close as they did because they had some police uniforms.

The Mumbai attackers didn't bother with the subterfuge of wearing police or military uniforms, did they?


Really no reason to. They took out the real cops, anyway, in teh early stages of the operation as part of the attack.

They were, otherwise, up against a completely un-armed population, allowing them to pick off members of wedding parties at will.

404 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:22:36am

re: #401 Fenway_Nation

(I'm referring to mumbai. In Lahore, you are probably correct.)

405 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:22:50am

re: #397 astronmr20

However, the fact that the Islamic Shithole of Pakistan actually contains nukes makes the unthinkable far too close for comfort, despite the layers of fail-safes.

They've had 'em for decades. Ain't one warhead turned up and detonated where it ain't supposed to yet.

/I can only take an unclassified guess as to why that is

406 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:22:59am

re: #400 astronmr20

My thoughts (and this has yet to be verified) were that as long as Musharraff co-operated with supplying NATO forces in Afghanistan and clamping down on the Taliban-allied tribes in the frontier reigon, the West would generally turn a blind eye to any Pakistani activities in Kashmir.

/just a theory

407 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:23:51am

re: #405 Killian Bundy

They've had 'em for decades. Ain't one warhead turned up and detonated where it ain't supposed to yet.

/I can only take an unclassified guess as to why that is

It only takes one.

408 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:24:59am

re: #406 Fenway_Nation

My thoughts (and this has yet to be verified) were that as long as Musharraff co-operated with supplying NATO forces in Afghanistan and clamping down on the Taliban-allied tribes in the frontier reigon, the West would generally turn a blind eye to any Pakistani activities in Kashmir.

/just a theory

The US has stayed out of the Kashmir debacle, to benefit if all three nations in my opinion.

409 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:27:03am

re: #407 astronmr20

It only takes one.

/sure, and you might get hit by a car crossing the street later today, management of calculated risk

410 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:27:31am

re: #402 goddessoftheclassroom

My wife and I are discussing Ayn Rand daily. She is also being mention on radio talk shows. Any reaction from you students after lo these many months?

411 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:28:34am

Good Morning LGF.

412 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:30:25am

re: #411 Spare O'Lake

Good morning Spare O'lake.

413 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:31:00am

re: #410 BatGuano

My wife and I are discussing Ayn Rand daily. She is also being mention on radio talk shows. Any reaction from you students after lo these many months?

They loved Anthem, and four of them entered the essay contest. The best way I illustrated socialism was to use the example of the "group project" where everyone got the same grade regardless of how much work he or she put it--the points were simply redistributed.

414 NYCHardhat  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:33:28am

More media bias.

Where is Obama? Is it because this isn't happening to blacks?

415 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:39:19am

re: #413 goddessoftheclassroom

I see. as Obama said, "spread the wealth around". It is best that they learn early that they be rewarded for their accomplishments. It will also bring up those who are lagging. Everyone wins.

416 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:45:06am

re: #415 BatGuano

I see. as Obama said, "spread the wealth around". It is best that they learn early that they be rewarded for their accomplishments. It will also bring up those who are lagging. Everyone wins.

Hell spread Food Stamps around. Since when did it become taxpayers’ duty to feed a family with $80,000 in the bank?

417 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:49:57am

Morning Lizards.

418 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:50:51am

re: #417 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Morning rs. I think everyone has gone to bed:)

419 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:52:09am

re: #418 Erik The Red

Hi Erik, it is Monday!

420 AmeriDan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:52:16am

re: #418 Erik The Red

Morning rs. I think everyone has gone to bed:)

Could you guys keep it down? I'm trying to sleep.

421 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:54:01am

re: #420 AmeriDan

Could you guys keep it down? I'm trying to sleep.

Sorry I will try and keep it down

422 AmeriDan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:54:50am

re: #421 Erik The Red

Sorry I will try and keep it down

;)

423 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:55:42am

re: #416 Erik The Red

Oh that. MY wife and I work our asses off to survive in California. We are actually looking at state benefits to take the pressure off. We won't do it of course because we're idiots. We do have pride which does not make it easier.
Perhaps we should rethink our values. Naaah!

424 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:56:20am

re: #417 rightside

Morning Lizards.

{rigthside}

I've got to run--take care!

425 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 3:56:54am

re: #416 Erik The Red

Hell spread Food Stamps around. Since when did it become taxpayers’ duty to feed a family with $80,000 in the bank?

Back to your question. Fuck'em!

426 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:00:08am

re: #424 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess} have a great day

427 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:02:49am

There is a whiff overwhelming stench of Fascism emanating from the Obama White House. Oh weally?

428 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:10:07am
Youtube Video

Something I guarantee you haven't seen before.

/good luck, stay safe out here

429 3 wood  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:11:19am

Good morning.

Look for the market to to open sharply down in reaction to the auto maker news. This may bring about the additional sharp sell of that the technicians have been looking for to achieve "capitulation".

I think Obama's getting tough with the auto makers will take the market somewhat by surprise, as they had anticipated a long term continuation of the government supporting them.

430 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:12:05am

re: #429 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to to open sharply down in reaction to the auto maker news. This may bring about the additional sharp sell of that the technicians have been looking for to achieve "capitulation".

I think Obama's getting tough with the auto makers will take the market somewhat by surprise, as they had anticipated a long term continuation of the government supporting them.

Good or bad in the long run?

431 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:13:12am

re: #427 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Obama now replaces heads of industry. I an glad i didn't for this piece of shit.

432 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:17:45am

re: #429 3 wood

This may bring about the additional sharp sell of that the technicians have been looking for to achieve "capitulation".

We're 1300 points (+20%) up off the last DJIA low, in a technical bull market.

/capitulation may take some doing

433 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:17:59am

This is cool: Muslim island Mayotte votes itself into the arms of France

Roar mouse, ROAR.
See Mohammad run?
Run infidel, run.

oh blankety..blank me. jayzuz. What a...whatevah.

434 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:24:19am

re: #432 Killian Bundy

We're 1300 points (+20%) up off the last DJIA low, in a technical bull market.

/capitulation may take some doing

And all the recent sell-offs have been on much lower volume.

/we'll see what happens today but I'm seeing a glass half full, despite whatever Obama might do, it's baked in at this point

435 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:25:43am

Obama's Afghan Policy: Is It a Remake of Vietnam?

Run infidel, run.

436 jim in virginia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:27:02am

Great. The President of the United States is replacing CEO's, al Qaeda has taken 800 hostages in Lahore, and the Norks are about to test an ICBM.
I'm going back to bed and pulling the covers way over my head. Wake me on 1-20-13.

437 yesandno  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:27:44am

Obama's major problem is that he has never had to actually "work" for anything. He has not produced anything from the ground up. He only has lawyer-ed and given speeches, both of which in the midst of a hail storm are probably not going to be effective.

Now he deems to tell someone how to run a business? If I have heard it once, I heard it a million times--he successfully ran a large campaign. Well, I wonder how much work he actually did on even that. However, this barely qualifies him to push a Tonka truck across the floor, never mind knowing how to built and market an automobile.

Had the government stayed out of that business without their meddling regulations, it might not be where it is today.

438 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:28:55am

re: #436 jim in virginia

Great. The President of the United States is replacing CEO's, al Qaeda has taken 800 hostages in Lahore, and the Norks are about to test an ICBM.
I'm going back to bed and pulling the covers way over my head. Wake me on 1-20-13.

ʇuǝɯoɯ ǝɥʇ ʇɐ uʍop ǝpısdn sı plɹoʍ ƃuıʞɔnɟ ǝloɥʍ ǝɥʇ

439 3 wood  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:29:06am

re: #430 Erik The Red

Good or bad in the long run?

Probably more positive than negative up in the long run. But I think we can see a long economic downturn before things markedly improve.

440 jim in virginia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:29:45am

Erik, are you sue you want to move back to this mess?

441 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:29:58am
442 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:30:40am

re: #436 jim in virginia

al Qaeda has taken 800 hostages in Lahore

/red on red in a terrorist hub [expletive deleted]hole we have no ground access to, more faster please

443 jim in virginia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:30:54am

re: #438 Erik The Red

ʇuǝɯoɯ ǝɥʇ ʇɐ uʍop ǝpısdn sı plɹoʍ ƃuıʞɔnɟ ǝloɥʍ ǝɥʇ

Showoff!
///

444 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:31:21am

re: #440 jim in virginia

Hey Jim, we need every vote we can get!

445 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:31:32am
446 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:32:23am

re: #440 jim in virginia

Erik, are you sue you want to move back to this mess?

Hell Yes. The US is still the strongest and most prosperous nation in the world. I NEED a first world country again. 26 years of a third world African country is enough. And you can fucking keep Europe.

447 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:34:35am

re: #437 yesandno

Obama has never worked nor ran anything in his life. He has no accomplishments. He is an empty suit. But Americans love him! Americans are asses.

448 3 wood  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:34:55am

Got to get ready for work.

Later.

449 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:35:28am

re: #447 BatGuano

Obama has never worked nor ran anything in his life. He has no accomplishments. He is an empty suit. But Americans love him! Americans are asses.

Hey only 54% of Americans are fucking idiots.

450 BatGuano  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:36:52am

re: #449 Erik The Red

Oh, god. That's over half.

451 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:37:39am

re: #448 3 wood

Got to get ready for work.

Later.

Later 3wood. Stay away from the splatter today:)

452 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:39:29am

re: #450 BatGuano

Oh, god. That's over half.

Youtube Video

/and that's not the half of it

453 jim in virginia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:40:17am

re: #450 BatGuano

Oh, god. That's over half.


In 76 we got Jimmy Carter. Four years later we voted Ronald Reagan in. Everyone makes mistakes, and sometimes we learn from them.

454 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:41:07am

A lady about 8 months pregnant got on a bus.
She noticed the man opposite her was smiling at her.
She immediately moved to another seat.
This time the smile turned into a grin, so she moved again.
The man seemed more amused.
When on the fourth move, the man burst out laughing, she complained to the
driver and he had the man arrested.
The case came up in court.
The judge asked the man (about 20 years old) what he had to say for himself.

The man replied, Well your Honor, it was like this: When the lady got on the
bus, I couldn't help but notice her condition.
She sat under a sweets sign that said, "The Double Mint Twins are Coming"
and I grinned.
Then she moved and sat under a sign that said, " Logan 's Liniment will
reduce the swelling", and I had to smile.
Then she placed herself under a deodorant sign that said, "William's Big
Stick Did the Trick", and I could hardly contain myself.
BUT, your Honor, when she moved the fourth time and sat under a sign that
said, "Goodyear Rubber could have prevented this Accident"...I just lost it.

455 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:42:19am

re: #453 jim in virginia

In 76 we got Jimmy Carter. Four years later we voted Ronald Reagan in. Everyone makes mistakes, and sometimes we learn from them.

The problem is we do not have another RR in the wings. The GOP needs to find a face and a message now if we are to make gains in 2010 and 2013

456 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:44:46am

re: #453 jim in virginia

Good point, I just hope there is some Reagan-esque person to come around. I see no one on the horizon. Mitt is a mormon, Huck is too evangelical, Sarah stumbling, Jindal witnessed a exorcism, etc.

457 jim in virginia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:45:38am

Muhs I'd like to stay on this little internet island of sanity and good humor, work beckons. Stay safe lizards.

458 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:49:20am

re: #455 Erik The Red

The problem is we do not have another RR in the wings. The GOP needs to find a face and a message now if we are to make gains in 2010 and 2013

Did we know Ronald Reagan was in the wings in 1977?

459 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:50:05am

re: #458 MandyManners

Did we know Ronald Reagan was in the wings in 1977?

Good question. I was only 9. Did we?

460 seekeroftruth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:53:21am

Good morning! This might be of interest:

Political leftists play for keeps. They are willing to lie, perform deceptive acts in a coordinated fashion and do so in a wicked way - all in the pursuit of victory. Moral relativism is alive and well in the land of Hope and Change and its Web-savvy youth brigade expresses its "idealism" in a most cynical fashion.

The ends justify the means for them - now more than ever.

Much of Mr. Obama's vaunted online strategy involved utilizing "Internet trolls" to invade enemy lines under false names and trying to derail discussion.

461 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:54:53am

re: #459 Erik The Red

Good question. I was only 9. Did we?

I was young, too but, from what I've read, the adults didn't know about Reagan.

462 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:56:31am

re: #460 seekeroftruth

Good morning! This might be of interest:

Much of Mr. Obama's vaunted online strategy involved utilizing "Internet trolls" to invade enemy lines under false names and trying to derail discussion.

WOW! I'm not naming any names but,...

463 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:57:08am

re: #461 MandyManners

I bet a lot of info could be gathered about him as governor of Cali, through his library.

I was 14 at the time, but never knew who he was, until I joined the Navy on his watch.

464 seekeroftruth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:58:12am

re: #462 MandyManners

; - )

465 Shakey Jakey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:59:08am

re: #461 MandyManners

It was pretty much as it is now. RR had made a run at Ford during the primaries but after the election he went back to California. People were pretty much resigned to 8 years of Carter. Ford was the head of the moderate wing of the party and Reagan was perceived as being way to Conservative.

466 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 4:59:13am

I have been thinking about our plans for Afghanistan and the logistics problem. There is a new seaport on the Arabian Sea due South of Kandahar called Gwadar.

In my bones I think that we cannot keep 70,000 Americans in Afghanistan unless we have 30,000 Americans in Gwadar. Only seven problems with that: the Pakistanis, the Baluchis, the Pashtuns, the Iranians, the Americans, the Russians and the Chinese.

The Pakistani government is attempting to sew together a balloon while it is being shot full of holes from the inside. The odds on their welcoming an American base are between slim and none. Our best bet might be to tell "our friends" that we will need the base to evacuate them when everything collapses. Unfortunately "our friends" will not be in a position to deliver whatever we want from them.

The Baluchis are the regional population and have been subject to autonomy carrots being dangled by cynical outside powers (especially the Soviets) for decades. Why should they align with the soon to vanish Americans and play Kurds for a Day?

The Pashtuns are the 40 million plus tribe that thinks of Kandahar as its territory and have every intention of dissolving the governments in Pakistan and Afghanistan while looting American supply caravans and depots. It is what they do.

The Iranians think of Baluchistan and most of Afghanistan as break away bits of their empire. They are just over the border to the West and if you think that they can be trusted to protect a supply line for Americans then I want your bank account number, social security and credit card quick because you are about to get cleaned out and it might as well be me that profits.

The Americans are now under the command of Barack Obama. No one expects them to stay beyond the second bloodletting.

The Russians have been angling to get a warm water port in this area for over two hundred years. On the long term level that has not changed even if the demographic realities do not support those ambitions. On the more immediate basis an American base to the South reduces the value of the Russian controlled supply lines to the North. As noted before they have a long history of manipulating the tribal politics. The Great Game continues.

The Chinese happen to be the people who built the port, have their own ambitions and intentions with regard to the region and its mineral resources and have spent decades also in building ties in the region to counter the Americans, Russians and Indians.

The Indians could be the only natural friends that America has and I would be doubtful that they would trust Obama enough to stick their necks out for him.

467 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:00:34am

re: #461 MandyManners

I was young, too but, from what I've read, the adults didn't know about Reagan.

I would like to think that this being the information era that it would be very hard for someone to just pop out of the wood work. I don't keep up nearly enough with local and state politics because of where I live now. That will change come June. I hope I can find someone in Central Florida to get behind.

468 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:00:52am

One Way Or Another

Guess her age.

/no Google cheating!

469 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:01:43am

re: #467 Erik The Red

I'm sure you will find someone to get behind in the unemploment line.

/just kidding, but with the Oconomy

470 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:02:04am

re: #468 Killian Bundy

Who is it, can't see?

471 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:02:06am

re: #459 Erik The Red

Reagan gave Ford all the competition he could take in the race for the 1976 GOP nomination. And if there'd been a few more Reagan votes in convention, we wouldn't have had to suffer under the whip and lash of Jimmuh Carter. But that's the realm of alternate historians. Reagan was fondly remembered by millions for his principled stands as California's governor. So, yeah, we knew about Reagan.

472 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:02:48am

re: #463 rightside

I bet a lot of info could be gathered about him as governor of Cali, through his library.

I was 14 at the time, but never knew who he was, until I joined the Navy on his watch.

I'm sure Californians knew about him but, the rest of the nation was probably left in the dark for a while. The MFM wasn't wholly Left back then but, it had not competition so it wholly controlled the flow of information.

473 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:03:11am

re: #466 lifeofthemind

I have been thinking about our plans for Afghanistan and the logistics problem. There is a new seaport on the Arabian Sea due South of Kandahar called Gwadar.

In my bones I think that we cannot keep 70,000 Americans in Afghanistan unless we have 30,000 Americans in Gwadar. Only seven problems with that: the Pakistanis, the Baluchis, the Pashtuns, the Iranians, the Americans, the Russians and the Chinese.

The Pakistani government is attempting to sew together a balloon while it is being shot full of holes from the inside. The odds on their welcoming an American base are between slim and none. Our best bet might be to tell "our friends" that we will need the base to evacuate them when everything collapses. Unfortunately "our friends" will not be in a position to deliver whatever we want from them.

The Baluchis are the regional population and have been subject to autonomy carrots being dangled by cynical outside powers (especially the Soviets) for decades. Why should they align with the soon to vanish Americans and play Kurds for a Day?

The Pashtuns are the 40 million plus tribe that thinks of Kandahar as its territory and have every intention of dissolving the governments in Pakistan and Afghanistan while looting American supply caravans and depots. It is what they do.

The Iranians think of Baluchistan and most of Afghanistan as break away bits of their empire. They are just over the border to the West and if you think that they can be trusted to protect a supply line for Americans then I want your bank account number, social security and credit card quick because you are about to get cleaned out and it might as well be me that profits.

The Americans are now under the command of Barack Obama. No one expects them to stay beyond the second bloodletting.

The Russians have been angling to get a warm water port in this area for over two hundred years. On the long term level that has not changed even if the demographic realities do not support those ambitions. On the more immediate basis an American base to the South reduces the value of the Russian controlled supply lines to the North. As noted before they have a long history of manipulating the tribal politics. The Great Game continues.

The Chinese happen to be the people who built the port, have their own ambitions and intentions with regard to the region and its mineral resources and have spent decades also in building ties in the region to counter the Americans, Russians and Indians.

The Indians could be the only natural friends that America has and I would be doubtful that they would trust Obama enough to stick their necks out for him.

So to sum up. Afghanistan is truly fuck? Would be a good summation?

474 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:04:31am

re: #473 Erik The Red

So to sum up. Afghanistan is truly fuck? Would be a good summation?

For that which we are about to receive Oh Lord may we be truly grateful.

475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:06:34am

re: #467 Erik The Red

Barack 0bama kind of came out of nowhere, IIRC.

476 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:07:15am

re: #464 seekeroftruth

Cool avatar.

477 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:07:29am

re: #475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Barack 0bama kind of came out of nowhere, IIRC.

From under a pile of Chicago shit.

478 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:07:59am

re: #466 lifeofthemind

In my bones I think that we cannot keep 70,000 Americans in Afghanistan unless we have 30,000 Americans in Gwadar.

Where do those numbers come from? Obama's not even close to that.

/Afghanistan is a harsh mistress, Obama will bail with extreme prejudice during his first term

479 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:08:04am

re: #465 Shakey Jakey

It was pretty much as it is now. RR had made a run at Ford during the primaries but after the election he went back to California. People were pretty much resigned to 8 years of Carter. Ford was the head of the moderate wing of the party and Reagan was perceived as being way to Conservative.

Interesting parallels.

480 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:09:44am

re: #467 Erik The Red

I would like to think that this being the information era that it would be very hard for someone to just pop out of the wood work. I don't keep up nearly enough with local and state politics because of where I live now. That will change come June. I hope I can find someone in Central Florida to get behind.

Just look at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

481 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:09:46am

re: #470 rightside

Who is it, can't see?

/Blondie, senior citizen

482 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:10:05am

re: #468 Killian Bundy

One Way Or Another

Guess her age.

/no Google cheating!

50?

483 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:10:51am

Good Morning Comrades. The Maximum Leader is heading to the G2 Summit with an entourage of over 500. He is bringing about 200 Secret Service, the whole kitchen staff etc.
Over 500!

484 seekeroftruth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:11:12am

re: #476 MandyManners

Cool avatar.

Thanks!

485 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:11:28am

re: #461 MandyManners

I was young, too but, from what I've read, the adults didn't know about Reagan.

Good morning, Lizards.

(Good morning littleoldlady, goddess.)

Reagan actually was a known quantity in 1976, as he had already been a candidate for the GOP's presidential nomination once before, in 1972, saying that Nixon was not doing an acceptable job as President, specifically in economic and foreign policy. (He derided Nixon's so-called "secret plan" for getting out of Vietnam, accurately stating that it amounted to unilateral withdrawal and leaving the people of South Vietnam to twist in the wind.) Nixon was renominated, and beat McGovern because as much as most Americans disliked Nixon, they considered McGovern a disaster waiting to happen. (32 years later, a similar fate would befall Eternal Lieutenant Kerry.)

In 1976, he got as far as the second ballot at the convention, but in the end, the GOP leadership's loyalty to the Washington in-crowd (which Ford, as good a man as he was, was a member of, and Reagan was not), as well as most party leaders' tendency to "dance with the one who brung 'em" (a malady both major parties share) ended with Ford's nomination, and defeat in November.

Reagan was not really an "unknown quantity" in 1976. But he definitely was not a "member of the club" in Washington power circles. It was, however, that very outsider aura that brought him back into the party's center of power in 1980, and ended with him in the White House.

Today, Sarah Palin is the most "Reaganesque" individual in the GOP. Anyone who thinks that she has been subjected to some bizarre "criticisms" by the MSM has never looked up what they said about the Gipper.

For the record, at age 51, I'm old enough to remember every U.S. President back to Eisenhower (at age 2, I watched the Nixon/JFK debate, including Nixon's infamous gaffes), and I've voted in every Presidential election since 1976. The morning after, I was driving from home to my college (a 35-mile trip one way), and on the CB the joke was "We'll be eating peanuts for the next four years."

Would that that had been the worst that happened. (I like peanuts- just not as much as I like cheese.)

cheers

eon

486 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:11:48am

re: #482 MandyManners

50?

/good inaccurate guess, Google it and report back

487 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:11:51am

re: #471 Pullus Iulius

Reagan gave Ford all the competition he could take in the race for the 1976 GOP nomination. And if there'd been a few more Reagan votes in convention, we wouldn't have had to suffer under the whip and lash of Jimmuh Carter. But that's the realm of alternate historians. Reagan was fondly remembered by millions for his principled stands as California's governor. So, yeah, we knew about Reagan.

The Left there villified him.

488 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:12:24am

re: #475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Barack 0bama kind of came out of nowhere, IIRC.

GMTA.

489 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:13:27am

re: #480 MandyManners

Just look at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

LOL

490 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:14:07am

re: #485 eon

Who would be a parallel? Giuliani? Romney?

491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:15:22am

re: #490 MandyManners

Wasn't Romney's only problem is that he was too, well... Mormon?

492 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:15:25am

re: #486 Killian Bundy

/good inaccurate guess, Google it and report back

She'll be 54 this year.

493 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:15:58am

re: #491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wasn't Romney's only problem is that he was too, well... Mormon?

Problem with whom? The MFM?

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:18:25am

re: #493 MandyManners

Of course. I'm not a Mormon, but would have sure as hell have voted for him. The MFM ran these, "But his Mormonism..." little seeds.

495 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:18:59am

re: #491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wasn't Romney's only problem is that he was too, well... Mormon?


Yeah, he wasn't Mainstream Christian like Barry. 'GD Amerikkka"

496 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:19:09am

re: #491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wasn't Romney's only problem is that he was too, well... Mormon?

Too many flip flops, wasn't it? Of course we have the king of flip flops in office now, but if Romney were to throw his hat in the ring the MFM would crucify him for it.

497 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:19:34am

re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bingo!

498 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:20:14am

re: #492 MandyManners

She'll be 54 this year.

From the same era.

499 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:20:42am

re: #492 MandyManners

She'll be 54 this year.

64, but who's counting?

/not bad for a classic '80s rock & Roll broad, eh?

500 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:21:18am

re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Of course. I'm not a Mormon, but would have sure as hell have voted for him. The MFM ran these, "But his Mormonism..." little seeds.

I reckon some Christians would have some qualms voting for him because he's Mormon but, he shares their values.

501 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:21:49am

re: #499 Killian Bundy

64, but who's counting?

/not bad for a classic '80s rock & Roll broad, eh?

Oh, noez. I fwunked daf maffs.

502 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:22:31am

It's time to drag The Kid to school. I just love the first days after any kind of vacation or break. bbl

503 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:26:13am

re: #496 soxfan4life

Too many flip flops, wasn't it? Of course we have the king of flip flops in office now, but if Romney were to throw his hat in the ring the MFM would crucify him for it.

I think if that stinkin Huckabee had not given McCain the power in West Virginia, Romney would have been our cantidate and would have smoked nobama. morning lizards

504 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:26:23am

So I took the family downtown on Saturday to look at DC's cherry blossoms. On the way back we cut past the White House on the way to K Street. Obama had the entire north side of the White House blocked off by police. We couldn't believe it. During the middle of the Iraq War Bush would let people sit right outside the fence -- I have pictures of myself there. But Obama won't even let people get anywhere close. A lot of people in the park were grumbling about it. The only protestors on site were some anti-Ampwerhpaed Iranians, so it's hard to believe that was the reason. The constrast between Bush letting hundreds of Code Pink wackos right up to the fence with Obama using squad cars to keep 20 angry pro-American Iranians away was pretty striking.

505 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:27:27am

re: #475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Barack 0bama kind of came out of nowhere, IIRC.

A pattern the Democrats have repeated since the 1960's. JFK was an obscure Massachusetts junior senator. Carter and Clinton were Southern governors who were considered jokes in their own states. The major difference is that Carter and Clinton shared a sense of their own brilliance, perfection, and general superiority to the rest of the world that JFK was singularly lacking in. (Unlike, say, his brother Ted.)

Even the losing Democratic candidates in this period fit the profile, namely Dukakis, Mondale, Gore, and Kerry. I include Gore because being VP does not automatically confer recognition or a public sense that you are "up to the job" of POTUS unless you work extra hard at being VOTUS. Nixon learned that the hard way in 1960, when he lost to that obscure junior senator from Massachusetts. I don't expect Biden to be a serious candidate for POTUS anytime soon, either. (Like, the rest of his life.)

The bottom line is not "recognition", but philosophy. If you look at The One, you see the philosophy that is de riguer for any politician wanting to be, not just the Dems' Presidential candidate, but to have any influence in the Democratic Party's leadership circles at all. Put simply, if you want to play in that ball game, you must be an anti-military, anti-gun, anti-growth, anti-nuclear, pro-"green", anti-free market, pro-abortion, high-tax, big-spending, politically-correct socialist. Period. Dot. (Being anti-Israel used to be optional, but nowadays, I suspect it's been added to the "mandatory" list.)

It's a case of, "If you want to play, you have to abide by the rules."

/They're so flexible and open-minded.

//

cheers

eon

506 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:27:42am

re: #503 apachegunner

I think if that stinkin Huckabee had not given McCain the power in West Virginia, Romney would have been our cantidate and would have smoked nobama. morning lizards

Open primaries deid in Romney. He won the majority of Closed Primaries.

507 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:27:47am

Wow. We had to do that poem in HS English Class. Grade 12 or 13 I believe.

Brings back memories...

Then again, Yeats is good, but he's no Tennyson!

508 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:27:57am

FCBBHO taking 500 staff with him to G20. I wonder if they count his 12 teleprompters in that figure?

509 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:30:32am

littleoldlady ;-)
goddessoftheclassroom ;-)
Lizards ;-)
Sorry I'm late.

Yes, Ronald Reagan was a known quantity back then. He set the ball rolling with a huge conservative speech at the convention that got my attention. First it was "an actor for President, you're kidding, of course", and then it just became "of course". I was too young to remember much about FDR. Truman took over WW2 and finally ended it with a couple of nukes. Eisenhower renamed those bombs 'nucular' weapons. Carter was a disaster. I was in Georgia when he was nominated. A friend said "It;ll be kindr nice to have a presidint without a aksent fer a change. "
Nixon had great experience and was an excellent manager but got his reputation in a major bind and did not have the personality to ride through it. Now I doubt his reputation will ever be restored.

I'm rambling now... must quit.

510 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:30:45am

re: #508 rightside

FCBBHO taking 500 staff with him to G20. I wonder if they count his 12 teleprompters in that figure?

How many usually go?

511 seekeroftruth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:30:52am

re: #508 rightside

FCBBHO taking 500 staff with him to G20. I wonder if they count his 12 teleprompters in that figure?

12? Lol - didn't know TOTUS had siblings.

512 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:31:38am

re: #490 MandyManners

Who would be a parallel? Giuliani? Romney?

Both of them would qualify, but they have the "Northeast Pseudo-Liberal Rockefeller Republican RINO" image to work against, too, especially Giuliani. (The "America's Mayor" thing is less important to Republicans around here- Central OH- than his support for gun-control, which is a 100% certain deal-killer in this neck of the woods.) Palin has no such baggage- again, like Reagan.

cheers

eon

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:34:27am

re: #508 rightside

FCBBHO taking 500 staff with him to G20. I wonder if they count his 12 teleprompters in that figure?

Are his 12 teleprompters his "tele-posse"?

514 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:34:48am

re: #504 Diamond Bullet

So I took the family downtown on Saturday to look at DC's cherry blossoms. On the way back we cut past the White House on the way to K Street. Obama had the entire north side of the White House blocked off by police. We couldn't believe it. During the middle of the Iraq War Bush would let people sit right outside the fence -- I have pictures of myself there. But Obama won't even let people get anywhere close. A lot of people in the park were grumbling about it. The only protestors on site were some anti-Ampwerhpaed Iranians, so it's hard to believe that was the reason. The constrast between Bush letting hundreds of Code Pink wackos right up to the fence with Obama using squad cars to keep 20 angry pro-American Iranians away was pretty striking.

/you weren't allowed to see Michelle's garden?

515 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:34:52am

Giuliani - my top pick for management experience
Romney - #2 and very much for the same reasons
...
...
McCain - Way down at the bottom of the list

I voted for Palin.

516 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:37:28am

Good morning Lizards!

517 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:37:31am

re: #510 Nevergiveup

Teleprompters, or staff?

518 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:37:51am

Okay, Fox just hinted that the entire Board of GM is now gone.

/now who's going to run the company and WTF happened to shareholder rights?

519 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:37:54am

re: #516 Chicago Blonde

Good morning Lizards!

{CB} Good Morning

520 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:38:13am

re: #516 Chicago Blonde

Morning CB.

521 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:38:19am

Chicago Blonde ;-)

522 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:39:27am

re: #517 rightside

Teleprompters, or staff?

Staff

523 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:39:29am

re: #507 Mithrax

You too, huh? Ever read "A World Without Objects is a Sensible Emptiness" by Richard Wilbur? That thing gave me fits...

524 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:39:38am

re: #518 Killian Bundy

Okay, Fox just hinted that the entire Board of GM is now gone.

/now who's going to run the company and WTF happened to shareholder rights?

GM is the new post office.

525 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:39:57am

re: #519 Erik The Red

re: #520 rightside

re: #521 UncleRancher

Morning! :)

526 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:40:33am

re: #515 UncleRancher

Giuliani - my top pick for management experience
Romney - #2 and very much for the same reasons
...
...
McCain - Way down at the bottom of the list

I voted for Palin.

You and me both...

527 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:42:06am

To get your day started, a little clip from the Muppets.

Youtube Video
528 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:43:45am

re: #523 Chicago Blonde

Nope, but reading it now. Ain't the internet a great thing!

529 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:43:53am

re: #503 apachegunner

I think if that stinkin Huckabee had not given McCain the power in West Virginia, Romney would have been our cantidate and would have smoked nobama. morning lizards


Until the GOP steps away from the Religous Right, candidates like Huckabee will continue to put the screws to more qualified candidates. Steele should be focusing on someone who has an economic background and make it known he believes in State's Right's to keep the pro life people happy. Until the GOP stops allowing the pro life argument to become so devisive the Dems will use it to attack our best choices. Every time the left brings it up, we should respond with Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land, and no Supreme Court Decision will outlaw abortion, all it can do is make it a State's decision, and no state will repeal it. The Marxists in charge now are driving us into the ground at a record pace, and recently Steele is being called about his pro-life comments, unfuckingbelievable.

530 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:44:03am

re: #527 Mithrax

I like to get the cob webs out with THIS

531 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:44:07am

re: #518 Killian Bundy

Okay, Fox just hinted that the entire Board of GM is now gone.

/now who's going to run the company and WTF happened to shareholder rights?

You have the right to be jackbooted, kicked, stomped or curbed.

Velkom komrade...to de brave news verld.

532 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:44:38am

re: #522 Nevergiveup

I would guess it's close to that number for any POTUS, maybe not 500, but hundreds I think. I don't know the numbers, there's tons of support people needed.

OT, how is the DT rating doing manning-wise? Son is thinking of being one, and wondering if the manning levels would allow him to go for it.

533 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:46:00am

re: #518 Killian Bundy

Okay, Fox just hinted that the entire Board of GM is now gone.

/now who's going to run the company and WTF happened to shareholder rights?

Ok, thats just crazy....anyone see that on the web? I just read a story via drudge and no mention of that.....

534 saberry0530  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:46:55am

It was the first day of a school in the USA and a new Indian student named Chandrasekhar Subramanian entered the fourth grade. The teacher said "Let's begin by reviewing some American History. Who said "Give me Liberty, or give me Death?' She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Chandrasekhar, who had his hand up: "Patrick Henry, 1775" he said. "Very Good!" Who said "Government of the People, by the People, for the People, shall not perish from the Earth"? Again, no response, except from Chandrasekhar. "Abraham Lincoln, 1863" said Chandrasekhar. The teacher snapped at the class, "Class, you should be asha med. Chandrasekhar, who is new to our country, knows more about its history than you do"! !

She heard a loud whisper. "F--- the Indians"

Who said that" she demanded. Chandrasekhar put his hand up

General Custer, 1862

At that point, a student in the back said "I'm gonna puke"

The teacher glares around and asks "All right! Now, who said that?"

Again chandrasekhar says......George Bush to Japanese Prime Minister, 1991

Now furious, another student yells..........."oh yeah? Suck THIS!"

Chadrasekhar jumps out of his char waving his hand and shouts to the teacher..........Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997

Now with almost mob hysteria someone said "You little shit, If you say anything else, I'll kill you!

Chandrasekhar frantically yells at the top of his voice, Michael Jackson to the child witnesses testifying against him 2004

The teacher fainted

And as the class gathered around the teacher on the floor, someone said , "Oh shit, we're screwed!"

And Candrasekhar said quietly, "I think it was the American people, November 4th, 2008!

535 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:47:09am

re: #531 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You have the right to be jackbooted, kicked, stomped or curbed.

Velkom komrade...to de brave news verld.

/bad kitttens

536 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:48:12am

re: #483 opnion

Good Morning Comrades. The Maximum Leader is heading to the G2 Summit with an entourage of over 500. He is bringing about 200 Secret Service, the whole kitchen staff etc.
Over 500!

Heh. Well, he has to have a posse in keeping with his stature, or rather, a posse to give him some stature as he is an empty suit, after all.

537 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:48:55am

re: #528 Mithrax

Nope, but reading it now. Ain't the internet a great thing!

You kan haz it on intertubes! Yep, love it for finding obscure stuff and presents for Mr. Blonde. I found him a cool framed Frank Zappa poster - don't think I can find that at the mall!

538 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:49:55am

re: #533 ziggyelman

Ok, thats just crazy....anyone see that on the web? I just read a story via drudge and no mention of that.....

I said hinted, Fox didn't come right out and say it.

/let it play out, Obama is going to try and explain this on the TV later today

539 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:51:18am

re: #530 Erik The Red

Heh. When I was working at a school, I'd come in for my afternoon classes/chapel blasting stuff like VNV Nation's Genesis

Youtube Video

The look on some of the parent's faces when they realized it was a staff member listening to this stuff was -priceless-.

540 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:51:45am

Good morning all. At least totus and potus will have their own medical staff along. Hate to think of the entourage being subjected to the NHS if the need arises.

541 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:52:58am

re: #504 Diamond Bullet

So I took the family downtown on Saturday to look at DC's cherry blossoms. On the way back we cut past the White House on the way to K Street. Obama had the entire north side of the White House blocked off by police. We couldn't believe it. During the middle of the Iraq War Bush would let people sit right outside the fence -- I have pictures of myself there. But Obama won't even let people get anywhere close. A lot of people in the park were grumbling about it. The only protestors on site were some anti-Ampwerhpaed Iranians, so it's hard to believe that was the reason. The constrast between Bush letting hundreds of Code Pink wackos right up to the fence with Obama using squad cars to keep 20 angry pro-American Iranians away was pretty striking.

Well, in 1993 it was Hillary who demanded that Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House and down to Blair House be changed to a pedestrian mall. Not on the grounds of car-bomb threats, but on the grounds of "Every other ruler has a private drive in front of their palace, and I deserve one, too!" The Clintons also had a habit of closing the White House to scheduled tours and partying all day and into the night. (See Unlimited Access by Gary Aldrich; P.J. O'Rourke observed that the Clintonistas apparently believed that they could solve all the world's problems, if they could just stay up long enough.)

Nixon briefly had the Capital PD White House uniform detail redressed in uniforms right out of a Ruritanian romance, like The Prisoner of Zenda. That didn't last long.

And Carter, like The One, may have walked up Pennsylvania after his inauguration, but for the next four years he and Rosalyn demanded levels of bowing and scraping from the White House staff and security more appropriate for the Perons' in Argentina or the Marcos' in the Philippines. (This was doubly ironic, in view of the high percentage of Filipino-descent personnel in the White House domestic staff.)

The One's behavior, like that of those noted above, is a classic example of narcissism and egotism morphing into the arrogance of power. But from the sound of it, in his case, there's an unhealthy leavening of paranoia in the mix, as well.

/Just IMPO

cheers

eon

542 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:53:23am

re: #518 Killian Bundy

Okay, Fox just hinted that the entire Board of GM is now gone.

/now who's going to run the company and WTF happened to shareholder rights?

From what I can gather from this story, new board members will be on the slate next month, but noone else is being forced out now.

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

543 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:53:31am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

Don't mind me, I'm just practising how to embed videos here and if I do it right, it's the 2009 commercial for AFL (Aussie Rules footy) and it's a good one!


Youtube Video
544 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:53:40am

re: #537 Chicago Blonde

You kan haz it on intertubes! Yep, love it for finding obscure stuff and presents for Mr. Blonde. I found him a cool framed Frank Zappa poster - don't think I can find that at the mall!

Yeah, or you can find it for cheaper. I was pricing the cost of getting a large sized "Death of General Wolfe" by Benjamin West. Locally it was astronomical, I found decent froms from like allposters.com for much much cheaper

545 UncleRancher  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:53:49am

Looks like it's livestock feeding time again. Have a NICE Monday!

546 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:54:12am

re: #538 Killian Bundy

let it play out, Obama is going to try and explain this on the TV later today

And God help the markets when he does.

/they're already plenty pissed this morning

547 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:54:21am

re: #535 Killian Bundy

That's great. LOL

548 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:55:10am

re: #483 opnion

Good Morning Comrades. The Maximum Leader is heading to the G2 Summit with an entourage of over 500. He is bringing about 200 Secret Service, the whole kitchen staff etc.
Over 500!

No kiddin'.

Know what Sheik Maktoum of the UAE loads up to fill his 747 with only a handful of people on it?

Watermelon.

549 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:56:15am

.....the hanging and trial of the gm executives will begin at noon/.......

550 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:56:23am

re: #543 aussiemagpie

Great commercial. Pity about the game////

Morning aussie.

551 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:58:20am

re: #478 Killian Bundy

Where do those numbers come from? Obama's not even close to that.

/Afghanistan is a harsh mistress, Obama will bail with extreme prejudice during his first term

Do the math 40,000 there now plus 17,000 for combat operations in his first plan plus the 4,000 he announced in his last speech for training means that he is already committed to 61,000. Max Boot has said the plan will take 70 to 80 thousand.

552 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:59:19am

re: #546 Killian Bundy

And God help the markets when he does.

/they're already plenty pissed this morning

I feel worse every day when I read the news headlines. Lizard wit and cute pets like your avatar cheer me up more than anything else lately.
Time had another recent cover - forget the week, sorry - about the economy resetting maybe being a good thing, bringing families closer etc. Puke.

553 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:59:32am

re: #544 Mithrax

Yeah, or you can find it for cheaper. I was pricing the cost of getting a large sized "Death of General Wolfe" by Benjamin West. Locally it was astronomical, I found decent froms from like allposters.com for much much cheaper

Thanks for mentioning it. I just found it on a wallpapers site, and added it to my wallpapers file.

A sad scene, but beautifully done.

cheers

eon

554 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 5:59:48am

re: #534 saberry0530 That was the best of the best! I'll certainly use it! thanks

555 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:00:10am

Here, I found it - someone writes the crisis is GOOD for America

556 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:00:51am

Sounds like we may be near an end if those nasty ICE raids....its a good time to be an illegal in the U.S. ....or soon to be illegal.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

557 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:01:05am

re: #555 Chicago Blonde

The End of Excess? Oh that is rich!

558 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:01:48am

re: #551 lifeofthemind

Max Boot has said the plan will take 70 to 80 thousand.

/well, pardon me, I'm reassured by Max Boot

559 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:01:50am

re: #546 Killian Bundy

And God help the markets when he does.

/they're already plenty pissed this morning

Whoa.

/As in, "Holy (Bleep)!"

cheers

eon

560 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:01:53am

re: #557 vagabond trader

The End of Excess? Oh that is rich!

Right? Would love to know if that applies to him.
Of course not...

561 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:02:02am

There is SNOW on the ground here.

Grrrrrr.

562 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:03:27am

re: #561 Alouette

Morning Alouette.

I know, I'm going to go dig out my Mom's driveway in a few...GWMA.

563 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:04:52am

re: #561 Alouette

Where are you, if I may ask? We had wicked thunderstorms in the Northeast last night.

564 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:05:03am

re: #559 eon

Whoa.

/As in, "Holy (Bleep)!"

cheers

eon

/relax until today's volume comes in

565 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:05:28am

re: #552 Chicago Blonde

It's the "oconomy™" now.

566 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:05:31am

Morning Eric, when ya get to FLA where do ya land?

567 Timbre  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:06:29am
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Good morning Lizards, worldwide. May you all have a wonderful day!

568 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:06:32am

re: #563 vagabond trader

Where are you, if I may ask? We had wicked thunderstorms in the Northeast last night.

Oakland County, MI. Just north of Detroit.

569 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:06:36am

re: #549 phoenixgirl

.....the hanging and trial of the gm executives will begin at noon/.......

Hanging first, I notice.


"You swore my men would be treated decently!"

"They were. They were decently fed- and then they were decently shot."

-The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)


cheers

eon

570 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:07:40am

re: #568 Alouette

Appreciated your link re: Hitchens.

571 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:07:45am

re: #566 apachegunner

Morning Eric, when ya get to FLA where do ya land?

Will land in Orlando. Hoping to settle about 40 minutes north.

572 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:07:46am

re: #565 rightside

It's the "oconomy™" now.

But it's GOOD we're scaling back, keep on the sunny side of life etc etc, insert platitude here.

When I hear that stuff coming from the mouth of someone who couldn't run out of money if they lit a fire every day with a $100 bill, I want to throw up.

573 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:07:52am

re: #565 rightside

It's the "oconomy™" now.

I like that! Has anyone else said Obamanomics ™? ;)

574 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:08:34am

re: #569 eon

We love that movie at Vagabond Manor. Must search for a decent priced copy.

575 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:08:56am

re: #573 ziggyelman

Not sure, but am claiming credit for coining oconomy!

576 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:09:11am

Ford Motor Company

/execs laughing there asses off right about now

577 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:09:14am

re: #564 Killian Bundy

/relax until today's volume comes in

I am relaxed, not being an investor. My reaction is more that of someone watching two trains coming together on one track, and knowing that they're not going to be able to stop soon enough to avoid a fence-corner meet.

/Sort of a "It's horrible, but I can't look away" reaction.

cheers

eon

578 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:09:22am

re: #572 Chicago Blonde

I know what you mean. Have some dramamine.

579 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:09:24am

re: #550 Erik The Red

Great commercial. Pity about the game////

Morning aussie.

Hi Erik! Yes it's a terrific commercial isn't it?

As for Aussie Rules, the less said the better.......:-)

580 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:09:57am

Good morning Lizards. I'm bummed. My Cardnials lost last night. Im soaking my hat right now in a tasty lemon pepper maranaide. Will be eating it for lunch. Pleeease dont let UNC win. I dont want to have to listen to the MSM talking for weeks about how Obama got it right.

581 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:10:32am

re: #573 ziggyelman

Heard it from a talking head or two, but I'll swear it was yours first.

582 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:10:38am

re: #576 Killian Bundy

Ford Motor Company

/execs laughing there asses off right about now

And Toyota ... etc.

583 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:10:52am

re: #575 rightside

Not sure, but am claiming credit for coining oconomy!

Seriously, you ought to put some t-shirts out. Someone will just steal it if you don't act soon....

584 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:10:58am

re: #578 rightside

I know what you mean. Have some dramamine.

I want to stay as alert as I can. I'm having coffee. ;)

585 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:11:21am

re: #579 aussiemagpie

Morning Aussiemagpie! :)

586 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:11:56am

re: #580 KenJen

Good morning Lizards. I'm bummed. My Cardnials lost last night. Im soaking my hat right now in a tasty lemon pepper maranaide. Will be eating it for lunch. Pleeease dont let UNC win. I dont want to have to listen to the MSM talking for weeks about how Obama got it right.

Why don't y'all fire Rick so we can get him back where he belongs?

/man have we ever missed him

587 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:12:22am

re: #584 Chicago Blonde

Good point. America needs more lerts.

588 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:12:38am

re: #581 vagabond trader

Heard it from a talking head or two, but I'll swear it was yours first.

Thanks! ;)
I thought of it a few weeks ago....not that that counts for anything :%P%

589 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:12:48am

re: #585 Chicago Blonde

Morning Aussiemagpie! :)

{Chicago Blonde} Greetings from Down Here :-)

590 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:13:12am

re: #574 vagabond trader

We love that movie at Vagabond Manor. Must search for a decent priced copy.

One of the Ten. Best. Westerns. Ever.

And so full of useful quotes.

"When I get to likin' somebody too much, they ain't around very long."

"I noticed that when you get to dislikin' somebody too much, they ain't around too long, either."

-Clint Eastwood and Chief Dan George

cheers

eon

591 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:14:03am

re: #575 rightside

My comprehension is somewhat dyslexic at times. I think it would pack more punch like this. o-conomy.

592 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:14:07am

re: #587 rightside

If they every come up with a Lert tax I think the whole Lizard nation is screwed.

593 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:14:10am

Glenn Beck said will the head of the union be fired by Obama?

594 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:14:22am

re: #580 KenJen

My Father-in-law went to Oklahoma State, but a big Sooners fan. I was secretly rooting for UNC (ACC and all)...

0 picked UNC to win it all? Cool. The stars will align.

595 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:14:52am

re: #571 Erik The Red
great location, sure you'll love it. I often have business in the area, maby i'll buy ya a beer one day.

597 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:15:10am

re: #580 KenJen

Good morning Lizards. I'm bummed. My Cardnials lost last night. Im soaking my hat right now in a tasty lemon pepper maranaide. Will be eating it for lunch. Pleeease dont let UNC win. I dont want to have to listen to the MSM talking for weeks about how Obama got it right.

Go UConn!

598 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:15:28am

re: #590 eon

To a bounty hunter:

Dying ain't much of a living boy.

Clint westerns=best ever!

599 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:16:08am

re: #596 J.D.

Morning JD. I'd been eyeballing that title - was it a pretty fair assessment?

601 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:16:30am

re: #595 apachegunner

great location, sure you'll love it. I often have business in the area, maby i'll buy ya a beer one day.

Hell yes. When I get there we will hook up. Are you on FaceBook?

602 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:17:42am

re: #593 ziggyelman

You know the answer to that already, don't you?

re: #591 vagabond trader

Good point! If I make it big, I'll reward you monetarily, only to have o confiscate it in taxes.

603 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:17:44am

re: #577 eon

I am relaxed, not being an investor. My reaction is more that of someone watching two trains coming together on one track, and knowing that they're not going to be able to stop soon enough to avoid a fence-corner meet.

200 down on low volume isn't a problem or a bull deterrent.

/it may be a down day today but unless the trading volume picks up substantially, it's not a big one day deal

604 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:17:54am

re: #586 J.D.

UK fan? Not gonna happen.

605 Timbre  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:18:24am

re: #580 KenJen

re: #597 Wishing

Don't worry about Obama picking NC. 'Nova is going to pull it off!

606 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:18:28am

re: #599 Chicago Blonde

Morning JD. I'd been eyeballing that title - was it a pretty fair assessment?

Morning CB.
It was a great read, really, and very fair.
Bernard Goldberg also has a great sense of humor.

re: #600 ziggyelman

That's a great title....


It is!

Not to mention accurate.

607 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:18:37am

Good morning y'all - from a coolish (39 degrees, going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

608 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:18:52am

re: #590 eon


"You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?"

609 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:19:04am

lol,now you're learning how to survive in these times of the o-conomy!

610 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:19:31am

re: #587 rightside

Good point. America needs more lerts.

I've got too much Bailey's in my coffee this morning to be a lert.

611 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:19:33am

re: #604 KenJen

UK fan? Not gonna happen.


Don't rub it in.

:-(

612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:19:57am

re: #607 realwest

Came through Charlotte yesterday heading toward ATL...First time through since the bypass to 85 was completed....NICE!

613 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:20:05am

re: #609 vagabond trader

Hmm, I'd be hammered by confiscatory taxes as well, so why even bother?

614 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:20:38am

re: #610 scottishbuzzsaw

I've got too much Bailey's in my coffee this morning to be a lert.

We can put you on the Entertainment and Dessert Board then. ;)
How are you (((ScottishBuzzsaw)))?

615 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:20:38am

re: #607 realwest

Morning real, only dreary murk here in Southern New England.Enjoy the sun.

616 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:20:42am

re: #610 scottishbuzzsaw

Hey scottish, how have you been?

617 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:20:44am

re: #598 vagabond trader

To a bounty hunter:

Dying ain't much of a living boy.

Clint westerns=best ever!

"There is iron in your word of death. And so, there is iron in your word of life."

I could quote from that movie all day.

cheers

eon

618 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:21:12am

re: #607 {realwest}
Good morning! Beautiful day here, too.

619 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:21:34am

re: #601 Erik The Red
naaa, only twitter and that just a bit, and i don't spend that much time online actually.

620 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:21:44am

re: #613 rightside

I've heard rumors of a burgeoning underground/black market. oops, can I say that?

//

621 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:21:45am

re: #614 Chicago Blonde

We can put you on the Entertainment and Dessert Board then. ;)
How are you (((ScottishBuzzsaw)))?

Sounds like fun! Doing just fine here, {Chicago Blonde}...how are you doing?

622 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:22:05am

Well? Young skulls full of mushy matter await my wisdom dump (training class today)... I hope they're not morons. I've had a lot of coffee and patience and kindness are just not oozing out of me today.

623 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:22:26am

Here's a little something from the Projection Disorder Department.

624 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:22:30am

re: #620 vagabond trader

Hopefully, the lizardoid force field will repel their probes.

625 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:22:43am

re: #608 rightside Ah ha, The Outlaw Josey Wales - one of my favorite and most historically accurate (regarding Quantrill's "Guerrillas", Bloody Bill Anderson and the spread of young, gun men westward in this country) western movies of all time - and I've probably got 25 favorite Westerns!LOL!).
How are you this morning, pilgrim?

626 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:22:58am

re: #616 rightside

Hey scottish, how have you been?

Been just fine, rightside...trying to catch up after being away for a few days...how have you been?

627 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:23:07am

re: #617 eon

I think Clint cornered the iconic quote thing for quite a while.

628 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:24:03am

re: #621 scottishbuzzsaw

I'm fine - I already had my dental thing and it was even easier than having my wisdom teeth out when I was 16. Didn't even need painkillers after the first night.

/Feeling both silly for worrying, and relieved.

629 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:25:26am

re: #620 vagabond trader

I've heard rumors of a burgeoning underground/black market. oops, can I say that?

//

If it's one based on "value for value", with the prices (in cash or barter) set by supply and demand, it isn't a "black" market.

Just a free market.

cheers

eon

630 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:25:37am

re: #628 Chicago Blonde

I'm fine - I already had my dental thing and it was even easier than having my wisdom teeth out when I was 16. Didn't even need painkillers after the first night.

/Feeling both silly for worrying, and relieved.

Wow. Glad to hear, and I'd vote for just feeling relieved. Sounded serious to me, and I've had a lot of dental work done. *shudder*

631 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:25:50am

re: #622 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well? Young skulls full of mushy matter await my wisdom dump (training class today)... I hope they're not morons. I've had a lot of coffee and patience and kindness are just not oozing out of me today.

Snark and wit are sometimes as effective as patience. Whip that mush into shape!

632 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:25:51am

re: #612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Hi and thanks! Not that I had anything to do with it, lol! But it is a pretty little big town, ya know? I like Atlanta too. How are you doing today?

633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:26:03am

Hell, even I want a burger now!

634 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:26:07am

re: #605 Timbre

re: #597 Wishing

Don't worry about Obama picking NC. 'Nova is going to pull it off!


I'd start marinading my hat today if I were you. Uconn is tough.

635 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:26:08am

re: #628 Chicago Blonde

That's good, dental work can be miserable. Gah, dentist has been working on me to get my lower wisdoms out . What a dumb name for useless teeth, nothing smart about them.

636 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:26:14am

re: #625 realwest

Great here, hope you are too. Great movie, I will chiming in with eon, he began the Eastwood-isms though.

"Well, we're not just going to let you walk out of here"

"Who's we, sucka?"

"Me........and Smith.......and Wesson"

637 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:26:41am

re: #607 realwest hiya RW
re: #608 rightside hey Right
re: #610 scottishbuzzsaw
hiya cuz, share the baileys?

638 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:27:14am

re: #626 scottishbuzzsaw

Really good here, thanks.

639 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:27:18am

re: #629 eon

I stand corrected!

640 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:27:32am

re: #615 vagabond trader
Morning back atcha - I will do that, but only cause you asked me too! How's the temperature up there (and where in NE are you?)?

641 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:27:47am

re: #607 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a coolish (39 degrees, going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

*Smooch* darls, and all is well here at Chez Aussiemagpie :-)

Hope you and your Mum are feeling good today!

642 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:28:20am

re: #618 J.D.
Hi {J.D.} I'm glad to hear that! How are you doing today?

643 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:28:46am

re: #637 apachegunner

#610 scottishbuzzsaw
hiya cuz, share the baileys?

Hey there, Cousin! *slides bottle in your direction*

644 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:28:48am

re: #622 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Another genius of a leader heard from. Gah!

645 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:29:09am

re: #620 vagabond trader

I've heard rumors of a burgeoning underground/black market. oops, can I say that?

//

Black Market?

RACIST!

//

646 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:29:26am

re: #635 vagabond trader

That's good, dental work can be miserable. Gah, dentist has been working on me to get my lower wisdoms out . What a dumb name for useless teeth, nothing smart about them.

Names in the dental industry are screwy aren't they?
Wisdom teeth = useless teeth that only send dentist kids to college (huh, maybe that's why they got the name)

Scaling and planing = sounds like something straight out of Hellraiser but is just a deep cleaning with tons of novacaine

647 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:29:31am

re: #642 realwest

A little sore...had some surgery last Wednesday but mending well.
Thank heaven for Percocet!

648 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:02am

re: #637 apachegunner

Hey gunner, how's things?

649 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:14am

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell, even I want a burger now!

The Breast Meat will convert you every time.

650 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:19am

re: #644 vagabond trader

Another genius of a leader heard from. Gah!

Kind of frightening...I don't do anything the way the company wants it done, but they like my results....

Training is fun though.

651 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:28am

re: #645 Dark_Falcon

Black Market?

RACIST!

//

That was fast! lol

652 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:45am

re: #646 Chicago Blonde

Good thing they didn't have to "section" your teeth... sheesh!

653 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:51am

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell, even I want a burger now!

me too! And to have sex with her at the same time! :)

654 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:30:56am

re: #638 rightside

Really good here, thanks.

Glad to hear. Has spring arrived in your neck of the woods? I'm looking out the window at buds and leaves and blossoms despite some snow over the weekend.

655 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:31:06am

Isn't this fabulous? Not only can North Korea and Iran see the big "Kick Me" sign Russia has taped on our back, apparently the aliens (THOSE aliens) can too!

[Link: hamptonroads.com...]

////

656 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:31:17am

And before I head to work, here's a story out of Pakistan. The Islamist took over a police academy.

657 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:31:28am

Mornin' all. I see some of our lizards are starting or finishing Monday off right. Baileys'....yum.

658 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:31:38am

re: #640 realwest

It's in the upper 40s,damp, dank, dismal. Sunshine later this week we hope. Gotta get the old lawn in shape, it took a beating with snow mold. Had never heard of that before.Enjoy!

659 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:32:00am

re: #636 rightside LOL! HEY that's not a western! Besides I thought it was "Me and my two friends aren't gonna let you just walk out of here.......what two friends, sucka? Me and Smith and Wesson...BLAM! BLAM!" ( a lot of CLint's good movies had conversations that ended in "BLAM"!)!

660 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:32:05am

re: #636 rightside

Great here, hope you are too. Great movie, I will chiming in with eon, he began the Eastwood-isms though.

"Well, we're not just going to let you walk out of here"

"Who's we, sucka?"

"Me........and Smith.......and Wesson"

Actually, it's

"Smith... and Wesson... and me."

Sudden Impact (1983)

BTW, Warner Home Video just released the Dirty Harry films (Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, The Enforcer, Sudden Impact, The Dead Pool) in Deluxe Edition DVDS, letterboxed with extras (Dirty Harry includes two hour-long documentaries on the films and Eastwood's career, one of them the one hosted by the late Robert Urich). They're selling for $9.99 each most places.

"Did I fire six shots or only five?"


cheers

eon

661 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:32:13am

re: #649 Erik The Red

Oh, the links I could show you.

re: #657 pingjockey

Ping!

662 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:32:30am

re: #652 rightside

Good thing they didn't have to "section" your teeth... sheesh!

LOL! The one industry that doesn't use cutesy terms for things.

663 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:32:42am

re: #637 apachegunner
Hey good morning Guns! How are you doing today?

664 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:32:48am

re: #646 Chicago Blonde

Names in the dental industry are screwy aren't they?
Wisdom teeth = useless teeth that only send dentist kids to college (huh, maybe that's why they got the name)

Scaling and planing = sounds like something straight out of Hellraiser but is just a deep cleaning with tons of novacaine

CB, glad it worked out well!
Anyone price root canal lately? A friends Father is putting it off since the dentist wants $1800, and they are in tiny town Georgia.

665 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:33:01am

re: #657 pingjockey

Mornin' all. I see some of our lizards are starting or finishing Monday off right. Baileys'....yum.

Gunner's got the bottle, but he's usually good at sharing. ;>) Morning, pingjockey!

666 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:33:16am

On FNC, somebody is using the death of that actress to question Canadian health care!

667 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:33:29am

re: #650 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry, hit the wrong reply, but you go FBV!

668 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:33:30am

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell, even I want a burger now!

Hold the pickle?

669 jdog29  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:03am

Now that the Final Four are set in the NCAA men's basketball tourney, it will be impossible for President Obama to pass my 10 year old son's picks in his bracket.

When we received the expected call asking for my son's advice on the economic issues the nation is facing, his ideas of lowering taxes in the top brackets to motivate those who are actually producing and providing to start producing and providing more were quickly rejected.

We advised the President he was under no obligation to try this time tested economic strategy and then we wished him better luck next year.

The President asked if we were talking about the economy or his NCAA Tourney Bracket.

We said, "Both, Mr. President, both."

670 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:14am
...It is useful to remember what has motivated the Iranians to talk in the past: fear. Fear that the Islamic revolution would collapse brought Khomeini to the negotiating table with Iraq in 1988. And, most tellingly, there is 2003, when Tehran made an overture--how serious is unclear--to the United States via the Swiss ambassador in Tehran. To state the obvious: After the fall of Saddam Hussein, Tehran was terrified that President Bush might eliminate another member of the "axis of evil," the one that had just been discovered to have a massive underground uranium-enrichment facility at Natanz. It was fear, not "mutual respect," that provoked some within the clerical regime to reach out to Washington. ...


The Return of Weakness

671 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:25am

re: #660 eon

Got the DH series, great stuff too.

672 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:38am

re: #641 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} Well mom and I are doing ok, thanks! and here's a *smooch* back to you! Glad to hear all is well with you today!

673 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:47am

re: #660 eon

lol, 26 years later, and I came close enough for govt work.

Tell you the truth, in all this confusion, I kinda lost count myself.

But being this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow youe head clean off, you have to ask yourself one question.

Do I feel lucky?

Well, do ya, punk?

674 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:49am

re: #661 rightside

re: #665 scottishbuzzsaw

Back at you!. No Baileys for me. Have to go to a GIANT french fry plant to check their fire extinguishers. Place is immense, has 257 fire extinguishers.

675 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:34:50am

re: #664 ziggyelman

CB, glad it worked out well!
Anyone price root canal lately? A friends Father is putting it off since the dentist wants $1800, and they are in tiny town Georgia.

Thanks Ziggyelman - unfortunately that sounds right. *sigh*

676 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:35:25am

re: #674 pingjockey


OMG! hope that's not a W-1R!

677 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:35:28am

re: #668 Spare O'Lake

Hold the pickle?

cute

678 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:35:39am

re: #675 Chicago Blonde

Thanks Ziggyelman - unfortunately that sounds right. *sigh*

Dear me. I'd knock the teeth out for only $1000....

679 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:35:43am

re: #674 pingjockey

Morning Pingjockey! How long does a check like that take?

680 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:35:58am

Stocks off 193 points

681 apachegunner  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:35:58am

re: #665 scottishbuzzsaw

Gunner's got the bottle, but he's usually good at sharing. ;>) Morning, pingjockey!


the bottles yours ping, don't be piggish!

682 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:36:05am

re: #656 Dark_Falcon

And before I head to work, here's a story out of Pakistan. The Islamist took over a police academy.

I thought they already ran the Pakistani police

683 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:36:07am

re: #647 J.D. Uh, surgery?!
Was this planned in advance and how are you recovering?

684 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:02am

re: #683 realwest

Not to worry.
Yes, it was planned and I'm doing pretty darn well, I think. Gonna be just fine!

685 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:19am

re: #639 vagabond trader

I stand corrected!

Not intending to "correct" you, it's a common misapellation.

/Thanks to decades of NewSpeak.

cheers

eon

686 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:22am

re: #658 vagabond trader

It's in the upper 40s,damp, dank, dismal. Sunshine later this week we hope. Gotta get the old lawn in shape, it took a beating with snow mold. Had never heard of that before.Enjoy!

Snow mold?

687 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:22am

re: #676 rightside
Heh. Nope but it is a M-1R. A pain in the ass. We are going to try to stick bar codes on the fire bottles to speed up the process. I have no faith it'll work inside the plant. Hot, very humid and GREASY!

688 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:31am

re: #678 Mithrax

Dear me. I'd knock the teeth out for only $1000....

I'll bet you would, but I wanted something about Howard, Fine and Howard Dental skills. ;0

Got every tooth except my wisdom teeth, and I'd like to check out of this mortal coil that way...

689 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:55am

re: #673 rightside

A man's gotta know his limitations.

Boy is that an apt one for certain world leaders.

690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:37:57am

re: #668 Spare O'Lake

Oh, I'm holding it!

691 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:38:02am

re: #686 Wishing

Snow mold?

Sounds like the opening act for Spinal Tap, doesn't it?

692 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:38:08am

re: #688 Chicago Blonde

Nobody takes me up on those offers darn it!

693 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:38:10am

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Geithner has an awfully big forehead with some truly world class wrinkles?

694 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:38:17am

re: #687 pingjockey

Use a zip-tie or something similar, and have the barcode imprinted on a piece of plastic?

695 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:38:31am

re: #686 Wishing

Snow mold?

Snow mold?
That's a new one on me!
It's enough to make you wish for relief by global warming.
/

696 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:38:54am

re: #688 Chicago Blonde

Crap.

ABOVE Howard, Fine and Howard Dental Skills.

697 CommonCents  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:39:20am

Awesome! Israeli's hit Iranian Convoy in Sudan

698 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:39:21am

re: #653 ziggyelman
That's just a disgusting commercial! I mean, really - talk about exploitation of women - I've had to ah, bookmark it, so I can, you know, find it for easy reference next time I write to N.O.W.! WOW!

699 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:39:21am

re: #689 vagabond trader

This is a 44 magnum automag, and if used properly, it can remove the fingerprints...

700 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:39:33am

re: #679 Chicago Blonde
All day! The yearly check took 2 days. The other fun place is a mine for diatomaceaous earth. It is dirt made up of very dead marine diatoms. Used in everything from makeup to nacho cheese mix. All the equipment is outside in the weather. Oh well, makes for an interesting day.

701 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:39:34am

re: #693 Spare O'Lake

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Geithner has an awfully big forehead with some truly world class wrinkles?

It's just you.
/

702 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:40:11am

re: #693 Spare O'Lake

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Geithner has an awfully big forehead with some truly world class wrinkles?

Caused by being perpetually surprised by his own cluelessness?

703 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:40:12am

re: #690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I'm holding it!

I hope you don't have Parkinson's.

704 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:40:13am

re: #678 Mithrax

Dear me. I'd knock the teeth out for only $1000....

Guy asks dentist, "What do you charge to pull a tooth?"
Dentist says, "Oh, about $90.00."
Guy asks, "How long does it take?"
Dentist says, "A half a second or so."
Guys says, "That is a lot of money for a half a seconds work!"
Dentist says, "If you'd like? I could pull it reeeeeeal slow."

705 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #686 Wishing

I know, the old grass has scattered whitish patches. Lawn guy says its from the prolongued snow cover, even though we've had lots of snow cover other years and nothing like it. Always something here, all the lawns look sickly.

706 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:40:33am

re: #700 pingjockey

So...how does this job shape your eating habits?

707 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:40:53am

re: #693 Spare O'Lake

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Geithner has an awfully big forehead with some truly world class wrinkles?

I didn't realize until a couple of days ago that he'd never had a job outside of the government. Either.

708 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:41:27am

BBIAB

709 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:41:32am

re: #693 Spare O'Lake

Why, he's a genius, and a genius always has a much larger cranium to accomodate his superior brain.

////

710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:41:44am

Oh! Skulls full of mushy gray matter and all...

Later taters!

711 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:42:02am

re: #705 vagabond trader

I know, the old grass has scattered whitish patches. Lawn guy says its from the prolongued snow cover, even though we've had lots of snow cover other years and nothing like it. Always something here, all the lawns look sickly.

Snow in spring is called *poor man's fertilizer* so this snow mold is a new one to me.

712 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:42:16am

re: #706 Chicago Blonde
It has damn near turned me off from eating out! I mostly do restraunt fire supression systems. so I'm all in the kitchen, above the grills and up in the vents and ducts and I know who is clean and who just looks clean!

713 J.D.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:42:28am

I've gotta run.
Y'all have fun.

/poetic, aren't I?

714 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:42:34am

re: #699 rightside

Wait a sec, I don't recall that one.

715 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:42:59am

re: #693 Spare O'Lake

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Geithner has an awfully big forehead with some truly world class wrinkles?

He looks..guilty. My Dad says he looks like he's committed a crime, and feels like he's going to be found out.
Of course he has committed several crimes, but he'll get away with it...

716 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:43:32am

re: #711 Wishing

Same here, just hope it can be remedied without spending a small fortune.

717 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:43:54am

Ha. Guys got a system for your gps that you can downlaod and it tells you where all the red light cameras are in your area!

718 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:44:01am

re: #660 eon Hey there eon!
"Well do ya feel lucky, punk?"! BLAM! (as I said, some of Clint's best movie conversations ended with a Blam! (or in this case it may have been a click on an empty chamber - Eastwood likes to change his dialogue once in a while!).
I kid - I think Clint Eastwood has made, starred in or directed more great movies than all but maybe a handful - and in the directing field, I think maybe there are 4 or 5 I like as well).

719 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:45:39am

re: #714 vagabond trader

www.youtube.com/watch?v=57yo3KSjUxM

That may be it, I can't see youtube here, but when I googled that line, it came up with that youtube link. He was shooting alonside horace with his 12 guage shotgun.

720 pingjockey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:46:02am

Y'all have a good day!

721 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:46:28am

re: #664 ziggyelman
Well I live in a tiny suburb of Charlotte and the dentist down here charges $1800 - if you go to an endodontist it's $2100 = no lie!
And I've had 3 root canals down here (two by endodontists and one by a dentist) and all three were screwed up and resulted in having the teeth extracted at $750 a pop!

722 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:46:34am

Excellent advice for a Monday morning:

Never Raise a Parrot with a Baby

723 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:46:38am

Happy Birthday, Norah!

Youtube Video
724 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:46:50am

re: #673 rightside

lol, 26 years later, and I came close enough for govt work.

Tell you the truth, in all this confusion, I kinda lost count myself.

But being this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow youe head clean off, you have to ask yourself one question.

Do I feel lucky?

Well, do ya, punk?

The hilarious thing is, through most of the movie, Eastwood was using a S&W Model 57 .41 Magnum. The reason was that at the time, the big .44 had never been used in a movie, and the effects departments (and Stembridge Gun Rentals) had never made up any theatrical blanks for the caliber, or for .44 Special. The .41 could use .38-40 Winchester 3/4 load blanks, that were already around. Why? Because John Wayne used a .38-40 WCF caliber Colt Peacemaker in his movies, going back to the Three Mesquiteers "B's in the 1930s. As such, a stock of ready-made-up rounds was "in the pipeline", so to speak.

BTW, at that time, the standard service pistol of San Francisco PD uniform division was the S&W M-58 "Military & Police" fixed-sight .41 Magnum. It was adopted in 1969-70 as a result of the "Zodiac" killing spree- that was the basis for the story of Dirty Harry.

/cop trivia

cheers

eon

725 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:47:07am

re: #720 pingjockey

Y'all have a good day!

You too, ping!

726 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:47:18am

re: #721 realwest

Well I live in a tiny suburb of Charlotte and the dentist down here charges $1800 - if you go to an endodontist it's $2100 = no lie!
And I've had 3 root canals down here (two by endodontists and one by a dentist) and all three were screwed up and resulted in having the teeth extracted at $750 a pop!

Man, that sucks!

727 onslow  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:48:36am

GM's Rick Wagoner is sent packing as President Obama opens a Pandora's Box of Not Good.

By Peter M. De Lorenzo

728 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:48:49am

re: #721 realwest

(((Realwest)))

What a crappy deal. I'm sorry. :(

729 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:48:54am

re: #717 pingjockey

Ha. Guys got a system for your gps that you can downlaod and it tells you where all the red light cameras are in your area!

I have on like that here in S Africa. Called POI's. Great just go to the Garmin web site and down load.

730 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:49:46am

re: #722 scottishbuzzsaw

After a few days of that, I might be wondering what wine to serve with it...

731 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:50:00am

re: #724 eon

Thanks for that info. Loved when he said about shooting the naked guy running after a woman with a butcher knife!

732 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:50:16am

Recession is when your neighbor loses his job.
Depression is when you lose yours.
And recovery is when Obama loses his.

733 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:50:32am

re: #684 J.D. VERY GLAD to hear that!

734 ziggyelman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:50:34am

Well, after going down to -227, the stock market is rallying -221.42
I predict down 458 points for the day. Anyone else have a guess?

735 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:50:45am

Happy Birthday, Eric!

Youtube Video
736 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #607 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a coolish (39 degrees, going up to 68 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

good morning {real},
i have abt. an inch of global warming on the ground upstate.
it's beautiful but sheeeesh, it was 60 degrees a few days ago.
i guess i'll work a bit in the green house this morning.
hope you're doing well.

737 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:52:25am

re: #734 ziggyelman

Well, after going down to -227, the stock market is rallying -221.42
I predict down 458 points for the day. Anyone else have a guess?

Is 0 or Geithner speaking about the economy today?

738 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:52:34am

re: #734 ziggyelman

I'll have to look to see whether FCBBHO or timmy are speaking today, then I can predict how far down it will go.

739 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:52:55am

re: #721 realwest

That's dreadful.I always had dentaphobia until I found a wonderful lady doc who is the best and so gentle.Wish she were closer for you.

740 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:53:47am

re: #688 Chicago Blonde
Good morning Blondie "Got every tooth except my wisdom teeth, and I'd like to check out of this mortal coil that way..." Huh. You haven't hit anything close to your 50th birthday have you? That or you're one of THEM (those compulsive brush 4 times a day, floss everytime you brush and get your teeth cleaned every six months - in fact schedule it in your PDA or appointment book - folks!)!

741 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:54:08am

re: #738 rightside

I'll have to look to see whether FCBBHO or timmy are speaking today, then I can predict how far down it will go.

Nice that we have so much faith in the commie SOB.

742 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:54:28am

re: #730 Chicago Blonde

After a few days of that, I might be wondering what wine to serve with it...

Did you ever see the film "My Favorite Year?" There was a scene about cooking parrot, and how they put up a squawk, as told by a lethal bantam-weight named Rookie Carroca.

743 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:54:29am

re: #672 realwest

Hey {aussie} Well mom and I are doing ok, thanks! and here's a *smooch* back to you! Glad to hear all is well with you today!

Actually I'm sad, I've been looking at tributes to our Aussie soldiers on Youtube, and came across a wonderful video, and the latest comment is from the Mum of the soldier who made the video, informing us that her son took his own life in January

I don't know if you remember back in 2007 we went through this with Mr Aussiemagpie's daughter's soldier hubby also committing suicide, after numerous trips to Iraq and Afghanistan (he was a bomb tech)

The care and help from the Army as he spiralled into depression was woeful to say the least

744 Timbre  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:56:15am
MILTON, Massachusetts — A man on a rampage fatally stabbed his 17-year-old sister, decapitated his 5-year-old sister in front of a police officer and then turned toward his 9-year-old sister with a knife in his hand before officers shot him dead in what their chief described as "a killing field."

There was no clear motive for the events that unfolded Saturday, the day after the 5-year-old's birthday, in a tony Boston suburb that also is home to Gov. Deval Patrick. But there was no doubt at the carnage wrought by 23-year-old Kerby Revelus against his sisters in the two-family home they shared with their parents and grandmother.

-FOX News

The "clear motive" is that the man was a criminal psychopath who should have still been in prison, not recently released after serving time on a gun charge. His "constitutional rights" just cost two innocents their lives and left his surviving sister with a lifetime of agony.

745 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:56:24am

As we discussed yesterday, it looks like Gates is saying one thing and doing another just in case.

"Rear Admiral James Kelly, Commander of U.S. Forces Japan, told reporters on Monday Japan had nothing to fear from the launch. "Number one, I wouldn't lose sleep at night. Number two, Japan is very safe," he said.

Asked why he was so confident, Kelly said: "What it's based on is complete confidence that certainly from the United States naval perspective, we're postured to defend Japan and that's what we are here for."

Missile ships.

746 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:56:37am

re: #740 realwest

You haven't hit anything close to your 50th birthday have you!


I'll never tell. ;)
re: #740 realwest

That or you're one of THEM (those compulsive brush 4 times a day, floss everytime you brush and get your teeth cleaned every six months - in fact schedule it in your PDA or appointment book - folks!)!

I'm a dentalphobe too! It's either that or they'd have to sedate me a week for a root canal.

747 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:56:44am

re: #742 scottishbuzzsaw

Did you ever see the film "My Favorite Year?" There was a scene about cooking parrot, and how they put up a squawk, as told by a lethal bantam-weight named Rookie Carroca.

What!

748 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:57:16am

*yawn*......... what's for breakfast?

749 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:57:54am

re: #742 scottishbuzzsaw

NEVER saw that! There are a handful of classics I never got around to that I'm slowly crossing off my list as I view them. I need to sit through Fistful of Dollars and the rest first off.

750 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:58:11am

re: #745 avanti

As we discussed yesterday, it looks like Gates is saying one thing and doing another just in case.

"Rear Admiral James Kelly, Commander of U.S. Forces Japan, told reporters on Monday Japan had nothing to fear from the launch. "Number one, I wouldn't lose sleep at night. Number two, Japan is very safe," he said.

Asked why he was so confident, Kelly said: "What it's based on is complete confidence that certainly from the United States naval perspective, we're postured to defend Japan and that's what we are here for."

Missile ships.

I wonder if it's going to effect your stock market investments?

751 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:58:15am

re: #736 nyc redneck

((((nycredneck))))

Did you hear that potus is bringing 12 totus to the G20?

752 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:58:32am

re: #748 redc1c4

*yawn*......... what's for breakfast?


Waffles. Courtesy of the 0bama administration.

753 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:58:51am

re: #747 Walter L. Newton

Good morning, Walter and Maisey!

754 jorline  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:58:54am

Good morning all.

755 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:59:07am

re: #747 Walter L. Newton

What!

Sorry, Maisey!

756 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:59:07am

re: #750 Walter L. Newton

I wonder if it's going to effect your stock market investments?

he'll likely complain that the funds should be spent on universal health care.....

757 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 6:59:53am

re: #750 Walter L. Newton

I wonder if it's going to effect your stock market investments?

Sorry Walter, not in the mood for a fight over my IRA this morning.

758 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:00:02am

re: #717 pingjockey
Good morning ping! Say that's a handy device to have, less, of course, you're so busy looking at it to see where the speed camera's are you wind up plowing into someone's car in front of you!

HEY - have you seen that commercial for a Volvo 260 (iirc) where it automatically stops the car in city driving when ever you get too close to the car in front of you? If you drove that in NYC, you'd be a wreck, instantly. Hell we (NYC is still my hometown, even though I was born down in N.C.) think yellow lights mean "SPEED UP NOW!", LOL!

759 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:00:06am

re: #752 soxfan4life

Waffles. Courtesy of the 0bama administration.

heh.... for some reason, they smell like horseshit....

guess i'm not as hungry as i thought i was. pass the Baileys!

760 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:00:15am

re: #746 Chicago Blonde

So bad here that I had a pre-molar extracted rather than the root canal. I hear those have vastly improved as to pain and all.At least the gap is not visible unless you really look. lol.

761 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:00:40am

re: #756 redc1c4

he'll likely complain that the funds should be spent on universal health care.....

Good morning to you too.

762 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:00:41am

re: #751 vagabond trader

((((nycredneck))))

Did you hear that potus is bringing 12 totus to the G20?

LOL,
only 12?
hey {vagabond}
how are you doing this fine morning?

763 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:01:04am

re: #757 avanti

Sorry Walter, not in the mood for a fight over my IRA this morning.

that's good, 'cause it's gonna be a lot smaller this afternoon, thanks to your incompetent president....

764 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:01:24am

re: #748 redc1c4

*yawn*......... what's for breakfast?

oatmeal and blueberries.
w/ honey.

765 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:01:41am

re: #762 nyc redneck

LOL,
only 12?
hey {vagabond}
how are you doing this fine morning?

I had a visual of the totus'es chatting among themselves. LOL

766 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:01:56am

re: #722 scottishbuzzsaw

Excellent advice for a Monday morning:

Never Raise a Parrot with a Baby

Hey there Scottishbuzzsaw. Kinda creepy! ;-) How are you?

767 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:05am

re: #726 ziggyelman
Yep, literally!

768 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:07am

re: #757 avanti

Sorry Walter, not in the mood for a fight over my IRA this morning.

I was just wondering why you even care about NK, since your Messiah doesn't give two shit, really. I suspected that maybe you wanted to talk about something that you really care a lot about, you.

769 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:14am

Someone Did It

Sudan is a terrorist lawless state. Theymurdered and enslaved hundreds of thousands of people BEFORE Darfur. Osama Bin Laden was their welcome guest until 1998. They proudly represent the community of nations at the UN Human Rights Council.

Despite all this they are an internationally recognized country with borders.

So who committed an act of war against Sudan and blew up a convoy of civilians (story 1), relief supplies for Gaza (story 2) arms for Hamas (reality)?

Seeing as the people involved in the smuggling were Hamas and Iranian agents, the good bet is Israel or the US. Possibly a joint operation. But my bet is it was Israel.

Here's why:

Whoever did the attack had excellent perfect intelligence for the operation- they knew the who, what, where, when and how. The US excels at two forms of intelligence gathering: electronic and bribery. So the US might have gotten wind via a paid source.

While it is possible that US intelligence got wind of the convoy, the greater likelihood is Mossad- Mossad specializes in long term penetration of Arab governments and their focus is uniquely on Iran and Hamas. Would the US be willing to bomb Sudan over a single illegal arms shipment? Only if it was part of a larger context- a message about Darfur. we have seen, since the Golden Child assumed office that Sudan has thrown out peacekeepers and aid workers in concert with similar failed tests conducted by North Korea, Iran, Russia, Venezuela and China. George Clooney's Twitter account my be pinging the $350,000 Blackberry but nothing a liberal can think of matters to people who paint helicopters UN blue and then use them to gun down helpless civilians.

The attack happened in January, would Bush have sent a farewell card to Iran? He had four years to do that, why wait until the last week to say goodbye? And why in Sudan not in Iran's oil production areas? We don't even know if it was done during Bush's presidency but I am very confident days into office, President Alinsky would never bomb the culturally significant people of Sudan.

Sudan's air force is a haphazard organization but planes crash can create a major international incident, it is why Clinton used cruise missiles in 1998. You do not want to lose people or risk possible capture over a place like Sudan.

Both the US and Israel operate fleets of combat drones that can reach Sudan.

But the attack had, at most, marginal benefit to the US. The Israeli case is more compelling:

- Israel very much wants to interdict arms to Gaza and it is most in their interest to stop them.
- Israel really needed to send a message to Iran and Hamas of how far, hard and well she can hit.

Occam Razor and Qui Bono say it was Israel.

The implications of the attack are a ratcheted up shadow war between Israel and Iran. With Netanyahu assuming the PM's office in the next couple of days, expect tensions to spike rapidly between Iran and Israel.

Obama may have a very high sense of his abilities but Netanyahu can read the newspapers and the intelligence as well as anyone. Iran is in the sprint to the finish for the bomb. It may already be a fait accompli. Russia finished the sellout of Israel over the weekend when she announced she would not press Iran on the nuclear issue EVEN IF THE US AGREED NOT TO EMPLACE ABMs IN EUROPE. From Israel's perspective, the announcement by Russia that she did indeed have a contract to sell S-300 missiles to Iran was the final straw. The S-300s really complicate any strike by Israel against Iran. This really lights a fuse on Israel acting sooner rather than later.

Any and all diplomacy antiproliferation diplomacy with Iran is too little to late.

Can Israel even get to Iran? Does Israel have a "green light?" The US directly controls only one route to Iran- Iraqi airspace. But Israel may use ballistic missiles, commandos, fighters, drones, cruise missiles any or all in combination to get to where they have to go. When your life depends on it, there is no rule book.

War is coming. War is coming soon.

770 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:31am

re: #764 nyc redneck

oatmeal and blueberries.
w/ honey.

And a shot of Bailey's for your coffee.

771 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:34am

re: #742 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #762 nyc redneck

12! Dude is bordering on being a hoarder!

Should be elsewhere trying to scratch out a living! You?

772 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:39am

re: #760 vagabond trader

Sometimes extractions are the better way aren't they? And right, if anyone who's not a dentist is looking in your mouth that closely, you should neigh at 'em.

773 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:02:40am

re: #764 nyc redneck

oatmeal and blueberries.
w/ honey.

Cornflakes and scotch.

774 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:03:09am

re: #764 nyc redneck

oatmeal and blueberries.
w/ honey.

*holds out her bowl...*

775 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:03:36am

re: #728 Chicago Blonde
Thanks, but it just comes with the turf - the med's I'm on rot out my teeth inside out -so brushing and flossing and all that don't do a hell of a lot of good except make me feel like I'm trying to take care of my teeth!

776 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:03:53am

re: #773 Erik The Red

Cornflakes and scotch.

As opposed to Beerios? :)

Gotta go all - have a scaly day!

777 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #768 Walter L. Newton

I was just wondering why you even care about NK, since your Messiah doesn't give two shit, really. I suspected that maybe you wanted to talk about something that you really care a lot about, you.

avanti's all time favorite song

778 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #763 redc1c4

that's good, 'cause it's gonna be a lot smaller this afternoon, thanks to your incompetent president....

LOL. Kudo's, good way to start the morning, Avanti meat for breakfast.

779 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:03:59am

re: #765 Wishing

I had a visual of the totus'es chatting among themselves. LOL

a totus cocktail party. champagne and caviar.
wonder who's designing their clothing?

780 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:04:17am

re: #773 Erik The Red

Cornflakes and scotch.

and you can hold the cornflakes.

781 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:04:18am

re: #731 rightside

Thanks for that info. Loved when he said about shooting the naked guy running after a woman with a butcher knife!

?!?

782 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:04:24am

re: #766 FrogMarch

Hey there Scottishbuzzsaw. Kinda creepy! ;-) How are you?

Doing just fine,{FrogMarch}...how's everything with you?

783 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #742 scottishbuzzsaw

Oooo, that's another fave. Peter O'Toole deserved an Oscar.Absolute hilarity and you could bring your elderly aunt to see it.

784 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:04:56am

re: #778 Walter L. Newton

LOL. Kudo's, good way to start the morning, Avanti meat for breakfast.

it tastes a lot like gamey buttocks. %-)

785 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:05:37am

re: #735 MandyManners
THANK YOU! How are you doing today Mandy?

786 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:06:12am

re: #764 nyc redneck

oatmeal and blueberries.
w/ honey.

sounds disgustingly healthy...... i'm thinking ham & eggs.

/if only i had some ham, and some eggs. %-(

787 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:06:45am

re: #775 realwest

I'm sorry. They need to improve meds - that's such a awful thing. Nobody should have to deal with that.

My (miniscule compared to that) problem is most painkillers make me sick, so the less they have to do to my chompers, the less of a PITA I have/am.

788 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:06:49am

re: #781 realwest

?!?

well, he figured he wasn't out collecting for the red cross......

789 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:07:11am

re: #736 nyc redneck Huh, how far "upstate" ( to us NYC folks anything north of Yonkers is upstate)?!
Sorry for your global warming - hope you'll be warm enough in the greenhouse!

790 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:07:23am

re: #763 redc1c4

that's good, 'cause it's gonna be a lot smaller this afternoon, thanks to your incompetent president....

So you were for a bigger bailout of the auto industry ? I think it's time to get tough with them and get the unions attention, but that's just me. We could have cut yet another check, and made Wall St. happy, but I'll take a dip for a day or two rather then spend more.

791 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:07:27am

re: #783 vagabond trader

Oooo, that's another fave. Peter O'Toole deserved an Oscar.Absolute hilarity and you could bring your elderly aunt to see it.

He did at that. Very funny film.

792 Chicago Blonde  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:07:38am

OK, really gotta go - bye all.

*pries herself off keyboard*

793 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:07:48am

re: #787 Chicago Blonde

I'm sorry. They need to improve meds - that's such a awful thing. Nobody should have to deal with that.

My (miniscule compared to that) problem is most painkillers make me sick, so the less they have to do to my chompers, the less of a PITA I have/am.

if the issue with pain meds is nausea, your doc can give you a script for something to handle the side effects. good pain coverage is essential to good healing.

794 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:08:03am

re: #782 scottishbuzzsaw

Doing just fine,{FrogMarch}...how's everything with you?

Not bad for a Monday.

795 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:08:52am

Dow -227.
Sigh.

796 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:08:59am

re: #781 realwest

In the mayors office, the mayor told Harry that the guy was an alleged criminal. Harry said, when I see a naked man chasing a woman with a butcher knife, there's nothing alleged about it, or something to that effect. They were discussing the zodiac killer in the mayors office.

BTW, interenet explorer is just horrible for me here now. It hangs up on this site 4 or 5 times a day.

797 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:09:24am

re: #788 redc1c4

That's what it was! Thanks!

798 badger1970  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:09:28am

re: #709 vagabond trader

Neanderthals also had big heads, look what happened to them.

799 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:09:36am

re: #796 rightside

In the mayors office, the mayor told Harry that the guy was an alleged criminal. Harry said, when I see a naked man chasing a woman with a butcher knife, there's nothing alleged about it, or something to that effect. They were discussing the zodiac killer in the mayors office.

BTW, interenet explorer is just horrible for me here now. It hangs up on this site 4 or 5 times a day.

Try firefox. No hang ups at all.

800 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:09:39am

re: #740 realwest

Good morning Blondie "Got every tooth except my wisdom teeth, and I'd like to check out of this mortal coil that way..." Huh. You haven't hit anything close to your 50th birthday have you? That or you're one of THEM (those compulsive brush 4 times a day, floss everytime you brush and get your teeth cleaned every six months - in fact schedule it in your PDA or appointment book - folks!)!

At age 51, I still have all my own teeth, have never had a cavity, and go to the dentist about once a decade.

Of course, I'm a nut on brushing after every meal (and snack), using fluoride toothpaste, mouthwash, drinking chlorinated water, and maknig sure that any plaque gets removed ASAP.

As Neal Fargo once observed, I believe that a toothache can put you on your back almost as fast as a bullet, if not quite as terminally.

cheers

eon

801 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:10:18am

re: #783 vagabond trader

Oooo, that's another fave. Peter O'Toole deserved an Oscar.Absolute hilarity and you could bring your elderly aunt to see it.

"I haven't performed in front of an audience for twenty-eight years! I played a butler. I HAD ONE LINE! [pause] I FORGOT IT!"

802 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:10:32am

re: #798 badger1970

At least they fended for themselves instead of demanding handouts from the other tribe.

803 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:10:39am

re: #790 avanti

*boggle*

do you actually believe the crap you spew?

804 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:10:49am

re: #796 rightside

FireFox. Down load it now. Firefox

805 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:11:03am

re: #790 avanti

So you were for a bigger bailout of the auto industry ? I think it's time to get tough with them and get the unions attention, but that's just me. We could have cut yet another check, and made Wall St. happy, but I'll take a dip for a day or two rather then spend more.

And the government telling the GM CEO to step down if the company wants more of the tax payers money, that doesn't sound like nationalization to you, right?

Can you spell fascism, socialism, nanny state?

(I can't wait to hear his answer)

806 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:11:23am

re: #743 aussiemagpie
Shit. I'm terribly saddened by that news {aussie}.
To think that folks just can't cope with life anymore is just sad. And that they got that way by serving their Nation and their Nation's gratitude was a virtual slap in the face for some, benign neglect for the rest.

807 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:12:01am

re: #794 FrogMarch

Not bad for a Monday.

It's all relative when Monday is involved! ;>)

808 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:12:03am

re: #804 Erik The Red

I even have problems with FF3, then again it's prolly vista.

809 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:12:12am
810 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:13:08am

re: #744 Timbre
"His "constitutional rights" just cost two innocents their lives and left his surviving sister with a lifetime of agony."
No, I'm sorry - but his "constitutional rights" didn't kill those people HE did.

811 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:13:12am

Good Morning Lizard Nation....

Speaking of Fox News:

Welcome to the Fox Nation

I like the layout....

812 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:14:13am

re: #806 realwest

Shit. I'm terribly saddened by that news {aussie}.
To think that folks just can't cope with life anymore is just sad. And that they got that way by serving their Nation and their Nation's gratitude was a virtual slap in the face for some, benign neglect for the rest.

{realwest} It really was an awful time

However the inquiry into his death, and the lack of care when he was very ill and suicidal has hopefully changed things for our soldiers

813 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:14:26am

Good morning.

The markets aren't exactly feeling the Hope and Change this morning.

814 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:14:40am

OK, have to go eek it out. Have a pleasant one lizards!

815 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:15:06am

re: #754 jorline
Good morning my friend! How are you today?

816 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:15:41am

this should cheer everyone up


/white smoke

817 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:15:43am

re: #799 Wishing

Unauthorized here now. Same with youtube, mybook, facepage, twister, phlegmer, etc.

818 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:16:16am

re: #805 Walter L. Newton

And the government telling the GM CEO to step down if the company wants more of the tax payers money, that doesn't sound like nationalization to you, right?

Can you spell fascism, socialism, nanny state?

(I can't wait to hear his answer)

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

819 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:16:20am

re: #754 jorline

Good morning all.

Good morning!

820 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:17:04am

re: #813 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

The markets aren't exactly feeling the Hope and Change this morning.

Barry and Timmy to Wall Street:

Please help us fix the banking crisis - we may fire your CEO, we may limit your executive pay, hell we may limit all of your pay, we may scrutinize your expense reports, we may dictate how you do business, but it's a win-win for you! Promise!

821 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:17:46am

Over at [Link: hotair.com...] : AIG-FP strongarmed donations for Dodd

As Democrats prepared to take control of Congress after the 2006 elections, a top boss at the insurance giant American International Group Inc. told colleagues that Sen. Christopher J. Dodd was seeking re-election donations and he implored company executives and their spouses to give.

The message in the Nov. 17, 2006, e-mail from Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products chief executive, was unmistakable: Mr. Dodd was "next in line" to be chairman of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, which oversees the insurance industry, and he would "have the opportunity to set the committee's agenda on issues critical to the financial services industry.

"Given his seniority in the Senate, he will also play a key role in the Democratic Majority's leadership," Mr. Cassano wrote in the message, obtained by The Washington Times.

Mr. Dodd's campaign quickly hit pay dirt, collecting more than $160,000 from employees and their spouses at the AIG Financial Products division (AIG-FP) in Wilton, Conn., in the days before he took over as the committee chairman in January 2007.

Cassano didn’t leave anything to chance. His letter asked employees to make copies of their $2100 checks from both themselves and their spouses — the legal limit — and send the copies to his office. It seems few missed the threat in that message, which was that anyone not contributing to Dodd was obviously not on the same team as the boss. Bottom line: the $4200 was job insurance, and it only took six weeks for Cassano’s protection racket to raise $160,000 for Dodd.

822 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:17:54am

Is FCBBHO gonna' be on television AGAIN this morning?

823 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:18:12am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

and replacing them with Ear Leader and "Who cares about the dollar?" Geithner is any better?

824 jorline  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:18:59am

re: #815 realwest

Good morning my friend! How are you today?

Hey, good morning, RW. I'm well and hope you are as well.

Still blown away and bummed about the meltdown last night.

825 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:19:01am

re: #809 buzzsawmonkey

You Came to Me From Out of Nowhere
--1931 hit

You came to me from out of nowhere,
You took my heart and found it free.
Wonderful dreams, wonderful schemes from nowhere
Made every hour sweet as a flower for me.

If you should go back to your nowhere,
Leaving me with a memory,
I'll always wait for your return out of nowhere,
Hoping you'll bring your love to me.

Just blow me................................ a kiss!

Youtube Video
826 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:19:26am

re: #817 rightside

Unauthorized here now. Same with youtube, mybook, facepage, twister, phlegmer, etc.

They banned the BROWSER?

827 jorline  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:19:36am

re: #819 VegasRick

Good morning!

Good morning, VR.

828 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:19:41am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.


Avati, BHO fired teh CEO of a Private Sector Company!
Doesn't that bother you a little? Hell, I don't believe that Hitler actually took over companies like Krups.

829 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:19:45am

Che Churchill...


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830 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:19:53am

re: #822 MandyManners

Is FCBBHO gonna' be on television AGAIN this morning?

if you don't turn it on, you'll only have to watch the market tank....

less nausea that way.

831 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:20:16am

Morning Lizards.

Well I finally made it to the right wing nut list on Daily Kos:

Afrocity and NYCHardhat on Daily Kos

832 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:20:36am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

You never answered my question (or maybe you did, you're a mixture of a little communist, a little socialist and little fascist).

Name me one other time in the history of this country that a president (our government) has asked a PRIVATE CITIZEN to step down from his/her job?

This obviously doesn't bother you a bit?

833 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:20:37am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

But anything Barry says I exalt!
spit

834 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:21:03am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

Until the union breaks its stranglehold on them GM will continue to flounder. But 0bama says its alright to cripple everyones 401k's and pile tremendous debt upon my grandchildren to prop up the UAW members retirement.Best thing would be to let file bankruptcy and reorganize the union contracts.

835 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:21:06am

Later Lizards. Going home. See you in a bit.

836 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:21:14am

re: #813 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

The markets aren't exactly feeling the Hope and Change this morning.

Hope/Change is fading fast. It will be interesting to see if Obama makes an ass of himself at the G20 and how the MSM will cover him.

837 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:21:27am

re: #813 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

The markets aren't exactly feeling the Hope and Change this morning.

My broker predicted getting up to DOW 7000 by 1 April and it's gone much higher. If it stays at that level or above, we had a great month. It's even silly to track the market by the month, so daily variations will drive you nuts unless you are a day trader.

838 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:21:28am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

tax payers have no say in the GM bailout...what deal?

839 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:21:49am

re: #832 Walter L. Newton

You never answered my question (or maybe you did, you're a mixture of a little communist, a little socialist and little fascist).

Name me one other time in the history of this country that a president (our government) has asked a PRIVATE CITIZEN to step down from his/her job?

This obviously doesn't bother you a bit?

not as long as it's Ear Leader doing it, no. besides, avanti thinks he's going to personally benefit from it, so it's fine by him.

840 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:22:07am

re: #769 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Another GREAT comment. But, my friend, war is already here - the serious shooting may commence very shortly. Very.

841 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:22:14am

re: #831 Afrocity

Morning Lizards.

Well I finally made it to the right wing nut list on Daily Kos:

Afrocity and NYCHardhat on Daily Kos


Congratulations!

842 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:23:16am

re: #831 Afrocity

Morning Lizards.

Well I finally made it to the right wing nut list on Daily Kos:

Afrocity and NYCHardhat on Daily Kos

Congrats! Badge of honor!

843 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:23:40am

re: #828 opnion

Avati, BHO fired teh CEO of a Private Sector Company!
Doesn't that bother you a little? Hell, I don't believe that Hitler actually took over companies like Krups.


he was not fired...that's impossible...he could have told BO to go piss of

844 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:24:14am

re: #822 MandyManners

Is FCBBHO gonna' be on television AGAIN this morning?

The only time I want to see him on TV again is with Billy Mayes on a mighty putty commercial with Mayes shoving a wad of that crap in his mouth.

845 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:24:48am

re: #822 MandyManners

Is FCBBHO gonna' be on television AGAIN this morning?

Of course he is, let's hope the market can handle it.

846 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:25:07am

re: #844 KenJen

The only time I want to see him on TV again is with Billy Mayes on a mighty putty commercial with Mayes shoving a wad of that crap in his mouth.

i'd settle for him going on to announce that the j*b is much harder than it looked, so he's resigning.......

847 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:25:51am

re: #845 avanti

Of course he is, let's hope the market can handle it.

You collect Edsels right?

848 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:08am

re: #845 avanti

Of course he is, let's hope the market can handle it.

the only question is how many points it will have to lose in order to "handle it"

849 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:15am

re: #787 Chicago Blonde
Hmm - I'll guess that most of the "painkillers" they give you, that make you sick, have codeine in them, right? Or aspirin?
YOu ever have REALLY HORRIBLE PAIN, insist on Morphine sulphate - 15 mgs Immediate release. No upset stomach and absolutely no pain! Not that I'm giving medical advice ya understand!

850 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #846 redc1c4

i'd settle for him going on to announce that the j*b is much harder than it looked, so he's resigning.......

Problem with that is President Joe Biden.

851 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:18am

I like your avatar Avanti. I own a Desoto. I don't know how to drive it but it was left to me and is in mint condition.

852 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:23am

re: #818 avanti

BHO will talk in a bit, but I suspect he asked the CEO to step down as part of a the deal to get tax payer help. Any plan to help GM that kept the failing leadership I would oppose.

See Onslow at #727.

The CEO that The One "asked" to step down was not part of the initial problem.

Even if he was, The One's "request" was out of line. GM's acceding to it was even more so.

In the same sense that referring to "managerial capitalism" does not make it anything but syndicalist socialism.

/If the CEO needed to go, that's what stockholders' meetings are for.

cheers

eon

853 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:23am

re: #826 Wishing

We can't install anything on these.

854 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:31am

re: #769 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Excellent post. One nitpick:

Occam Razor and Qui Bono

It's actually "cui bono".

855 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:53am

re: #845 avanti

Of course he is, let's hope the market can handle it.

Of course, you wouldn't suggest that maybe Obama should stop acting like a socialist, right?

856 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:26:56am

re: #831 Afrocity

Morning Lizards.

Well I finally made it to the right wing nut list on Daily Kos:

Afrocity and NYCHardhat on Daily Kos

Congratulations!

I've been called a "fanatic right-wing Christian fundamentalist" :)

857 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:27:14am

re: #853 rightside

Gotcha.

858 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:27:30am

re: #837 avanti

My broker predicted getting up to DOW 7000 by 1 April

We may get there yet.

859 aussiemagpie  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:27:34am

Bedtime here, and I'm fed up with this computer too!

Keeps on freezing, error messages etc so it must be telling me to go to bed!

Have a wonderful yesterday {everyone}!

860 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:28:05am

re: #854 Occasional Reader

Excellent post. One nitpick:

It's actually "cui bono".

Bonjour, M. OR.

861 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:28:10am

re: #855 Walter L. Newton

Of course, you wouldn't suggest that maybe Obama should stop acting like a socialist, right?


He voted for him, so obviously he approves of such behavior.

862 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:28:32am

re: #850 soxfan4life

Problem with that is President Joe Biden.

and, at this point, i see that as a step in the right direction. at least everyone agrees that Plugs is a moron, so they won;t let him do anything.

863 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:28:57am

re: #832 Walter L. Newton


Name me one other time in the history of this country that a president (our government) has asked a PRIVATE CITIZEN to step down from his/her job?

This obviously doesn't bother you a bit?

It's done almost daily by the FDIC with troubled banks. They move in without notice with a team, seizing the assets, selling the bank to another bank, or liquidating. They fire and hire at will, and put in new management.

864 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:29:00am

re: #852 eon

/If the CEO needed to go, that's what stockholders' meetings are for.

But those are evil rich people wearing suits! Better that the Enlightened One makes these decisions on our behalf.

865 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:29:04am

re: #861 soxfan4life

He voted for him, so obviously he approves of such behavior.

Avanti is a communist, so I guess Obama is the next best thing.

866 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:29:42am

avanti...why do you suppose BO does not suggest cutting payroll and corporate taxes...why has he not found a solution to the toxic asset mess?

867 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:29:43am

re: #860 Walter L. Newton

Bonjour, M. OR.

Merci beaucoup, as Obama would say.

868 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:29:53am

re: #831 Afrocity

Morning Lizards.

Well I finally made it to the right wing nut list on Daily Kos:

Afrocity and NYCHardhat on Daily Kos

"Ummm, I don't this guy has really got the hang of it"

Ha, that guy writes like turn. Hey, how did you get wind of that post anyway afro?

869 rw in san diego  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:30:03am

Good morning, everybody. Hi, realwest, I see you're here already. How's the back?

870 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:30:19am

re: #858 Occasional Reader

We may get there yet.

235 down, about 540 to go........

871 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #796 rightside Ah, guess I don't remember those movies as well as I thought I did!
I've had no problems with IE out here (knock on wood) - maybe you have a problem with your version of IE?

BTW -Y'ALL - That Worm - Conflicker or whatever is apparently real. I've got the Geek Squad coming over this afternoon - called 'em yesterday and they confirmed everything that report and Charles said - and when I went to the Windows device link I got a "Page Not Found" so I'm having them back up my system after checking for and clearing out that worm.

872 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:31:27am

re: #849 realwest

Hmm - I'll guess that most of the "painkillers" they give you, that make you sick, have codeine in them, right? Or aspirin?
YOu ever have REALLY HORRIBLE PAIN, insist on Morphine sulphate - 15 mgs Immediate release. No upset stomach and absolutely no pain! Not that I'm giving medical advice ya understand!

even oral MSO4 can cause nausea in some people.

873 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:31:28am

re: #871 {realwest}

Howdy, Handsome.

How's by you?

874 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:31:41am

re: #865 Walter L. Newton

Avanti is a communist, so I guess Obama is the next best thing.

yes...imstead of simply admitting it he says he is in 1000's words

875 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:32:16am

I have a question for medically in the know lizards....

What is considered too low for blood pressure?

876 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:32:26am

re: #847 Wishing

You collect Edsels right?

Studebakers, and they did not get a bailout, but their failure did get new pension insurance laws passed. South Bend, the city where they were built took over 20 years to recover. Of course, Studebaker was tiny compared to GM.

877 kansas  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:32:26am

Dow down 232. Looks like the market just loves Teleprompter Asswipe.

878 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:32:34am

re: #866 albusteve

avanti...why do you suppose BO does not suggest cutting payroll and corporate taxes...why has he not found a solution to the toxic asset mess?

because he's a moron with no training or experience?

879 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:32:43am

re: #868 turn

"Ummm, I don't this guy has really got the hang of it"

Ha, that guy writes like turn. Hey, how did you get wind of that post anyway afro?

That is what I wonder. Isn't this a closed blog? Meaning only members can see what we post?

Also, my post was not about the Special Olympics comment so what was the deal with that? They could have at least omitted our screen names. I would not have known unless a Lizard told me last night.

880 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:32:49am

re: #818 avanti

You cover for dicks, why should we listen to you?

881 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #863 avanti

It's done almost daily by the FDIC with troubled banks. They move in without notice with a team, seizing the assets, selling the bank to another bank, or liquidating. They fire and hire at will, and put in new management.

Answer my question.

An FDIC insured bank has AGREED to certain conditions to have the FDIC coverage. And if they fail, then they are FULLY aware of the possible outcomes. It's a contract, with parties that have agreed to the terms.

GM has not made ANY agreement that would allow the president to suggest that the CEO steps down.

This has never happened before. I guess you haven't been listening to any of the experts who are all saying this is unprecedented.

882 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:33:30am

re: #855 Walter L. Newton

Of course, you wouldn't suggest that maybe Obama should stop acting like a socialist, right?

He can't act like what he isn't.

883 kansas  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:33:36am

re: #858 Occasional Reader

We may get there yet today.

884 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:33:45am

re: #875 loppyd

I have a question for medically in the know lizards....

What is considered too low for blood pressure?

Dead.

885 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:33:56am

re: #871 realwest

Hey there real, how do find out if your computer is infected with the worm anyway?

886 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:34:11am

re: #854 Occasional Reader

Excellent post. One nitpick:


It's actually "cui bono".

Unless the suspected beneficiaries are Andean guinea pigs, in which case the question is "cuy bono?".

887 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:34:25am
888 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:34:29am

re: #879 Afrocity

That is what I wonder. Isn't this a closed blog? Meaning only members can see what we post?

Also, my post was not about the Special Olympics comment so what was the deal with that? They could have at least omitted our screen names. I would not have known unless a Lizard told me last night.

Nope. Anyone can read, but you have to be registered to comment.

889 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:34:35am

re: #867 Occasional Reader

Merci beaucoup, as Obama would say.

Je ne parlerais pas à Obama.

890 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:34:57am

re: #879 Afrocity

No, you can view comments even if you're not logged on. Oh, so a friend let you know.

891 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:34:59am

re: #884 Wishing

Dead.

Last time I checked I'm not dead.... :~)

892 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:35:01am

re: #875 loppyd

I have a question for medically in the know lizards....

What is considered too low for blood pressure?

90 over 50

893 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:35:06am

re: #811 loppyd
Hey {loppyd} - dead fish! (long time no see!) how are you doing goodlooking?!

894 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:35:33am

re: #875 loppyd

I have a question for medically in the know lizards....

What is considered too low for blood pressure?

it varies by person, but if you are feeling faint/light headed, or get dizzy when you stand up from sitting or lying down, you should see your doctor or the ER stat.

895 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:35:36am

re: #892 albusteve

90 over 50

is 105/51 ok?

896 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:35:45am

re: #865 Walter L. Newton

Avanti is a communist, so I guess Obama is the next best thing.

I see the Lizards are in a foul mood again this morning, but I'm not interested in a dog pile so early on a lovely day. Be back later.

897 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:35:53am

re: #875 loppyd

I have a question for medically in the know lizards....

What is considered too low for blood pressure?

If you get dizzy or feel faint when you stand up suddenly, climb stairs, etc., your blood pressure may be too low or too high. Either way, see your doctor ASAP.

/High BP since I was 10- inherited condition. Several relatives on mother's side had low BP- same deal.

cheers

eon

898 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:36:22am

re: #812 aussiemagpie
"However the inquiry into his death, and the lack of care when he was very ill and suicidal has hopefully changed things for our soldiers"
Let us pray {aussie}.

899 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:36:27am

re: #843 albusteve

he was not fired...that's impossible...he could have told BO to go piss of


Even the MSM is saying that the Administration forced him out.
The hammer was no more bail out cash. He was fired.

900 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:36:29am

re: #894 redc1c4

it varies by person, but if you are feeling faint/light headed, or get dizzy when you stand up from sitting or lying down, you should see your doctor or the ER stat.

Thanks. I just left the doctor. Routine check-up.

I feel fine.

901 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:36:47am

re: #852 eon

See Onslow at #727.

The CEO that The One "asked" to step down was not part of the initial problem.

Even if he was, The One's "request" was out of line. GM's acceding to it was even more so.

In the same sense that referring to "managerial capitalism" does not make it anything but syndicalist socialism.

/If the CEO needed to go, that's what stockholders' meetings are for.

cheers

eon

And syndicalist socialism is but one thing, and known by a much better name. It was used extensively in Italy in the 1920s and 1930s, and then followed up in Germany in the 1930s. It's more popular name is fascism. BHO is dangerously close to being a fascist, economically speaking.

902 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:37:12am

re: #895 loppyd

is 105/51 ok?

depends on what's normal for you and if it tanked for some reason...sound like reasonable BP to me if you are otherwise healthy

903 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:37:15am

re: #896 avanti

I see the Lizards are in a foul mood again this morning, but I'm not interested in a dog pile so early on a lovely day. Be back later.

no need to rush back on our account..... you can stay gone.

904 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:37:21am

re: #893 realwest

Hey {loppyd} - dead fish! (long time no see!) how are you doing goodlooking?!

I'm good. Busy, but good.

Went away with the girls this weekend.....still tired! :)

905 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:37:33am

re: #890 turn

No, you can view comments even if you're not logged on. Oh, so a friend let you know.

Someone on I think open thread last night. I have a confession. I have never been to Daily Kos until last night. I heard it was liberal ass cleaning rag and never bothered.

906 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:37:42am

re: #887 Iron Fist

As an aside, for all the hell Nancy got for the Just Sy "No" campiagn, it was a help to at least some kids.

Yep. Even at the time - and I was a knee-jerk college Democrat at the time - I had to admit to myself, "she's probably on to something". Drug use was only going to diminish with cultural change, and the way to do that is by using the media to send a clear, simple message.

907 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:37:43am

re: #863 avanti

It's done almost daily by the FDIC with troubled banks. They move in without notice with a team, seizing the assets, selling the bank to another bank, or liquidating. They fire and hire at will, and put in new management.

Would you care to list the names of some banks that would verify that claim?

908 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:38:07am

re: #899 opnion

Even the MSM is saying that the Administration forced him out.
The hammer was no more bail out cash. He was fired.

he was not fired...you KNOW he was not fired

909 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:38:38am

re: #871 realwest

I'm sure I do, I am behind a firewall, our config of IE is weird. I have to live with it.

910 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:38:40am

re: #902 albusteve

depends on what's normal for you and if it tanked for some reason...sound like reasonable BP to me if you are otherwise healthy

It's always on the low end. I mentioned my BP to a co-worker who told me I need to go back and ask them why it's so low, blah blah blah, but she's a "know-it-all" and I say that loosely b/c she doesn't know diddly about anything.

911 Irene NYC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:38:48am

re: #863 avanti

It's done almost daily by the FDIC with troubled banks. They move in without notice with a team, seizing the assets, selling the bank to another bank, or liquidating. They fire and hire at will, and put in new management.

This is hardly a daily occurrence. Stop exaggerating.

912 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:38:48am

re: #863 avanti

It's done almost daily by the FDIC with troubled banks. They move in without notice with a team, seizing the assets, selling the bank to another bank, or liquidating. They fire and hire at will, and put in new management.

"Almost daily"? PROOF?

913 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:38:56am

re: #896 avanti

I see the Lizards are in a foul mood again this morning, but I'm not interested in a dog pile so early on a lovely day. Be back later.

No, you come here, make pronouncements about your Messiah, and then refuse to answer questions put to you, or you confuse the issues.

The word dishonest comes to mind. Any other suggestions?

914 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:16am

re: #905 Afrocity

Someone on I think open thread last night. I have a confession. I have never been to Daily Kos until last night. I heard it was liberal ass cleaning rag and never bothered.

I am curious as to your impression of the Daily Kos. I've found it to be a bit of a sewer in my excursions over there.

915 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:25am

re: #824 jorline Yeah, me too my friend. It was just HORRIBLE to watch - you could see it coming from a long way off and couldn't do a damn thing about it.
Notwithstanding, fwliw, I think Charles made the absolutely correct decision.

916 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:29am

re: #900 loppyd

Thanks. I just left the doctor. Routine check-up.

I feel fine.

then if they didn't comment on it, and you have none of the signs i mentioned, it's in the normal range for you.

people freak out over "normal", but those numbers are based on the general population, whereas every person is different, and therefore your normal may be no where near "normal".

917 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:43am

re: #905 Afrocity

Someone on I think open thread last night. I have a confession. I have never been to Daily Kos until last night. I heard it was liberal ass cleaning rag and never bothered.

Once in a while I'll check dkos out if I'm really bored. Now that Bush is out they don't have much to talk about over there.

918 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:44am

re: #897 eon

My mom and brother both have high BP and cholesterol. Not this kid.

919 Irene NYC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:52am

Hi real!

Nice to meet up here.
;)

920 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:39:55am

500 staffers are going with Obama to Europe? Geeze.

921 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:01am

re: #854 Occasional Reader

the fingers fly accros the keyboard and my old pal OR sees their failings!

922 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:27am

re: #912 MandyManners

"Almost daily"? PROOF?


Liberal logic doesn't require proof, say something enough times, it is true.

923 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:40am

re: #911 Irene NYC

This is hardly a daily occurrence. Stop exaggerating.

This is a direct talking point from the Barry Administration.

924 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:40am

I'm out of here, have a dental appointment. Snowing here in Golden/Denver area.

925 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:40am

re: #910 loppyd

It's always on the low end. I mentioned my BP to a co-worker who told me I need to go back and ask them why it's so low, blah blah blah, but she's a "know-it-all" and I say that loosely b/c she doesn't know diddly about anything.

you w*rk with avanti?

926 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:46am

re: #920 Afrocity


Including 12 teleprompters.

Many are decoys for TOTUS.

927 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:40:55am
928 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:41:19am

re: #916 redc1c4

then if they didn't comment on it, and you have none of the signs i mentioned, it's in the normal range for you.

people freak out over "normal", but those numbers are based on the general population, whereas every person is different, and therefore your normal may be no where near "normal".

I'm not going to stress over it.

/I kill myself

929 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:41:31am

re: #880 Honorary Yooper

You cover for dicks, why should we listen to you?

Avanti the condom.

930 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #907 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Would you care to list the names of some banks that would verify that claim?

Actually, what avanti says about FDIC is true. There was a very interesting piece on it recently on "This American Life". They do indeed move in on failing banks on a Friday afternoon, like a SWAT team (except it's made up mostly of accountants), fire the management, usually have a buyer lined up, so that the bank can open its door Monday morning under new management and (often) a new brand name, and the depositors aren't spooked. But Walter's point is a good one; this is a condition to FDIC insurance, to which banks agree in advance. Obama forcing out the GM CEO is quite a different thing.

931 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #915 realwest

Yeah, me too my friend. It was just HORRIBLE to watch - you could see it coming from a long way off and couldn't do a damn thing about it.
Notwithstanding, fwliw, I think Charles made the absolutely correct decision.


Goog Morning Lizards! How is everyone today.. Did the melt down last night have anything to do with bottom 10 comments..Did someone get banned?

932 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:41:42am

Driveby:
I'm thinking that "orfannykl" (jumpinginpools) and "Buffoon" (dequalss) should be paying Charles for advertising their blogs here 50 times a day in the links.

933 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:42:18am

re: #920 Afrocity

And Bob Beckle is on FOX News defending it. He is such a lap dog (albeit a huge one). I hate libs that defend everything and anything that Obama does. How can they sleep at night?

934 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:42:21am

re: #910 loppyd

It's always on the low end. I mentioned my BP to a co-worker who told me I need to go back and ask them why it's so low, blah blah blah, but she's a "know-it-all" and I say that loosely b/c she doesn't know diddly about anything.

well don't take my word for it...until it goes down to a certain level I think why it goes down is more important....BP can vary quite a bit....buy a cheap machine and monitor it yourself several times a day to get a better grip on what it should typically be

935 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:42:24am

re: #831 Afrocity Good morning Afrocity - I hate to say this, but almost everyone makes it to Kos's hate list sooner or later, even left wingers do!
Hope you're recovery is coming along well!

936 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:43:03am

re: #921 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

the fingers fly accros the keyboard and my old pal OR sees their failings!

[sigh] It's a lawyer thing, I know...
Sorry!

937 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:43:07am

re: #926 rightside

Including 12 teleprompters.

Many are decoys for TOTUS.

Hey rightside, I'm going to have to finally break down and ask somebody - what does TOTUS stand for? T of the US, what's the "T"

938 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:43:15am

re: #920 Afrocity

Ah the entourage of the self-important man.

Pettifoggers, lickspittles, nosedusters, pickletossers every manner of person over and above the 10 or twelve actually needed.

Clinton hit China in 1996 with 1000 people in tow. Most of them were corp execs there to transfer America's wealth and military secrets to China.

939 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:44:54am

re: #908 albusteve

he was not fired...you KNOW he was not fired


I do not know that. I think that we are into semantics.
How would you describe what happened?

940 Aviator  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:44:59am

re: #937 turn

Hey rightside, I'm going to have to finally break down and ask somebody - what does TOTUS stand for? T of the US, what's the "T"

[Link: baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com...]

941 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:45:36am

re: #927 Iron Fist

For all his failings, he appears to have remained faithful to his wife

As far as we know. If he remains so, I will give him credit where due. The temptations must indeed be great, when you're held up as the God Hero King Who's The Most Beautifullest Guy Ever.

942 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:46:17am

re: #807 scottishbuzzsaw

It's all relative when Monday is involved! ;>)

you said it! I have no motivation. I blame the democrat party.

943 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:46:28am

re: #940 Aviator

Thanks, duh. Now I get it.

944 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:05am

re: #901 Honorary Yooper

And syndicalist socialism is but one thing, and known by a much better name. It was used extensively in Italy in the 1920s and 1930s, and then followed up in Germany in the 1930s. It's more popular name is fascism. BHO is dangerously close to being a fascist, economically speaking.

While similar (in motivations), the two are not necessarily identical. In the Twenties and Thirties, the UK also flirted with syndicalism, notably under Ramsay MacDonald. The Imperial Airship Scheme being just one example of the theory in practice.

The result of that, of course, was the R-101 Disaster.

/Nevil Shute's Slide Rule describes the machinations leading up to it in (often jaw-droppingly bizarre) detail.

cheers

eon

945 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:08am

Morning all.
Everyone eagerly awaiting B.O. the Bozo trying to explain his bizarre power move against a private citizen? Apparently he's going to be on TV shortly to tell us the teleprompter's take on the situation.

946 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:08am

re: #933 Afrocity

And Bob Beckle is on FOX News defending it. He is such a lap dog (albeit a huge one). I hate libs that defend everything and anything that Obama does. How can they sleep at night?

Because they are our superiors, our elites, and they know better than us listtle people.

947 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:10am

re: #920 Afrocity

500 staffers are going with Obama to Europe? Geeze.

Now be fair; the litter-bearers need a pretty good-sized team, in order to get rest breaks.

948 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:15am

re: #937 turn

Teleprompter of The United States

949 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:31am

re: #941 Occasional Reader

As far as we know. If he remains so, I will give him credit where due. The temptations must indeed be great, when you're held up as the God Hero King Who's The Most Beautifullest Guy Ever.

yeah, but i could see her snapping his neck like a chicken's, without even blinking.

950 avanti  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:41am

re: #911 Irene NYC

This is hardly a daily occurrence. Stop exaggerating.

Correct, it's been more like weekly. This 60 minutes video about bank seizures will make even a leftie uncomfortable.

60 minutes

951 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:43am

There was a meltdown last night? Which thread?

952 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:47:59am

re: #915 realwest

Yeah, me too my friend. It was just HORRIBLE to watch - you could see it coming from a long way off and couldn't do a damn thing about it.
Notwithstanding, fwliw, I think Charles made the absolutely correct decision.

What transpired last night? Some major commentor get the stick?
I left LGF somewhere around 10pm CDT, so it must've been after that.

953 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:48:24am

re: #920 Afrocity

500 staffers are going with Obama to Europe? Geeze.


The empty suit needs some stuffing, after all.

954 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:48:50am

Morning all. I see that things haven't changed much since I last checked in. :p

955 turn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:49:01am

re: #948 rightside

Thanks, he's lost without one. Well then I guess you could even say he's lost with one too.

956 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:49:12am

I'm hoping for another revolution thread! Oh, wait! I think I missed something.

957 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #832 Walter L. Newton
Walter - first thing, good morning! Second thing while I agree with you the fact remains that GM and Chrysler continue to slide down and WE - the US Taxpayers, have an enormous debt owed to us by them and they wanted ANOTHER $21.5 BILLION bail out from us. I don't support the POTUS making anyone step down from their private sector job, but the fact is that every day, every month, GM (and Chrysler) were becoming practically colonies of the US. I think Obama leaned HARD on him to quit and given his performance to date, didn't mind that he did quit.
But there's more SOCIALISM in our future - when the US government (that is, we taxpayers) wind up with more of a company's equity than the regular shareholders do, I forsee this happening over and over again.
If GM didn't want the US Government to control it, it shoulda either made cars that people wanted to buy or gone into bankruptcy. If we're footing the bills, I think we have a right to speak out as "shareholders."

958 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:50:28am
959 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:50:36am

re: #955 turn

It's very telling how he stumbles oratorically without one

960 jorline  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:51:14am

re: #915 realwest

Yeah, me too my friend. It was just HORRIBLE to watch - you could see it coming from a long way off and couldn't do a damn thing about it.
Notwithstanding, fwliw, I think Charles made the absolutely correct decision.


i agree.

961 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:51:27am

re: #935 realwest

Good morning Afrocity - I hate to say this, but almost everyone makes it to Kos's hate list sooner or later, even left wingers do!
Hope you're recovery is coming along well!

Why do you hate to say that? I think it is pathetic that they are trolling.

962 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:51:30am
963 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:52:05am

re: #930 Occasional Reader

Actually, what avanti says about FDIC is true. There was a very interesting piece on it recently on "This American Life". They do indeed move in on failing banks on a Friday afternoon, like a SWAT team (except it's made up mostly of accountants), fire the management, usually have a buyer lined up, so that the bank can open its door Monday morning under new management and (often) a new brand name, and the depositors aren't spooked. But Walter's point is a good one; this is a condition to FDIC insurance, to which banks agree in advance. Obama forcing out the GM CEO is quite a different thing.

OR, I understood that they'd move-in with examiners & accountants but I sure didn't know they'd run-off the management - especially in this case as we're not generally talking fraud, theft for mismanagement but a wholesale market depreciation in assets. Thanks for the info.

964 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:52:29am

re: #960 jorline

i agree.


Good Morning Jorline..What happened last night?

965 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:52:35am

re: #939 opnion

I do not know that. I think that we are into semantics.
How would you describe what happened?

like the Mob, BO strong armed the guy...no question he was the object of extortion...clear out or else no money...ironically he should have said no and sent the company into bankrupcy....he said he's stepping down for the good of the company, but the best thing GM can do is go under and start over....it's less about management than it is about the UAW...they all know this...the CEO was used the same way he's been used by the unions...if he had any guts at all he would have told BO to fuck off and go down with the ship....I have no sympathy for any of them....none, zip, nadda

966 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:53:06am

re: #958 Iron Fist

(Afrocity stands straight, chest out, salutes you Iron Fist)

967 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:53:23am

re: #920 Afrocity

500 staffers are going with Obama to Europe? Geeze.

Actual video footage of Obama and entourage arriving in Europe.

968 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:54:35am

re: #966 Afrocity

(Afrocity stands straight, chest out, salutes you Iron Fist)

Who says mondays suck !?!?

969 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:54:43am

re: #958 Iron Fist

It was fun to watch the Leftist blogs come apart

Remember the "LGF paramilitary training" post?

Ah, memories.

970 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:55:09am

re: #945 Lincolntf

Morning all.
Everyone eagerly awaiting B.O. the Bozo trying to explain his bizarre power move against a private citizen? Apparently he's going to be on TV shortly to tell us the teleprompter's take on the situation.

The E-5 (who is over for a bit) has just pointed out that The One seems to have to do this repeatedly.

I don't know who first said it, but there's a Murphy's Law that applies here;

If elaborate calculations or explanations are required to justify a decision or action, the decision or action itself was unnecessary.

cheers

eon

971 irongrampa  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #968 sattv4u2

Retirement means Monday is just another day.

972 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:55:22am

re: #869 rw in san diego
Hi rw! I'm almost always out here by 9:30AM Eastern! Back is better, thanks, but still not a 100%.
How are you doing?

973 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:55:34am

Wow! this should surprise me, but it doesn't. Govt car warranty? It'll will work so smoothly.

/can't find their ass with both hands AND a map.

974 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:56:28am

re: #951 Taqiyyotomist

There was a meltdown last night? Which thread?

The one just before this. Certain posters took it upon themselves to defend mass murderer Baruch Goldstein. Stinky was not amused.

975 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:56:37am

re: #968 sattv4u2

Boob thread?

976 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:56:47am

re: #891 loppyd

Last time I checked I'm not dead.... :~)

Whew!

977 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:57:14am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

The one just before this. Certain posters took it upon themselves to defend mass murderer Baruch Goldstein. Stinky was not amused.

It was a very sad meltdown.

978 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:57:19am

re: #950 avanti

Correct, it's been more like weekly. This 60 minutes video about bank seizures will make even a leftie uncomfortable.

60 minutes

You're using 60 Minutes as PROOF here?

I don't know if you're fucking stupid or fucking insane.

979 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:57:29am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

Thx, OR. Gone to read.

980 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:57:45am

re: #885 turn
Well you can go to Charles thread about it yesterday and read up on it, then, when you get as confused as I did, get some technical help as I am!

981 loppyd  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:57:51am

re: #976 Wishing

Whew!

Yeah that would be a crappy way to start the week.

982 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #978 MandyManners

You're using 60 Minutes as PROOF here?

I don't know if you're fucking stupid or fucking insane.

Now now, don't split hairs. Why not settle for both?

983 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:58:40am

re: #978 MandyManners

I choose both.

984 jorline  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:00am

re: #964 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Jorline..What happened last night?

Thread...Let's Be Honest with the Kids, start at #258.

985 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:10am

I just got notice that the Ayers event at the Illinois High School has been cancelled.

Thank you very much for your e-mail regarding Ayers visit to Naperville North High School. I too have been concerned about this event since learning of it last week, and have been working on it since. I want to advise you that this event has been canceled. A formal announcement will follow later today via Talk 203.

Jackie Romberg
District 203 Board of Education

986 ilzito guacamolito  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:20am

This just makes me like John McCain even more.
/

987 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:23am

re: #982 Mithrax

re: #983 rightside

GMTA!

988 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:42am

re: #978 MandyManners

You're using 60 Minutes as PROOF here?

I don't know if you're fucking stupid or fucking insane.

i prefer fucking.

989 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:45am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

re: #977 Wishing

I went and read the "Bottom Comments" and what the poster was responding too. Moot question, but was the poster warned and yet continued, or did the Wrath Of Stinky just hit unannounced?

990 rightside  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:47am

re: #987 Mithrax

lol, beat me to it!

991 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 7:59:50am

re: #968 sattv4u2

Who says mondays suck !?!?

(Looking down at chest) Uh, sattv don't get your Cheerios all in a smiley face. I am 34A. Hardly mountains majesties more like unfruited plains.

992 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:00:16am

re: #971 irongrampa

Retirement means Monday is just another day.

Hope I get there someday

993 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:00:16am
994 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:00:21am

re: #985 DistantThunder

I just got notice that the Ayers event at the Illinois High School has been cancelled.

Thanks for a small spot of good news!

995 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:01:23am

re: #991 Afrocity

(Looking down at chest) Uh, sattv don't get your Cheerios all in a smiley face. I am 34A. Hardly mountains majesties more like unfruited plains.

As they say at sea ,,, any port in the storm! Your personality and conservative views more than compensates

996 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:01:25am

I cant wait to compare and contrast the European (esp. the U.K.) and American press coverage on Obama trip this week.

997 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #965 albusteve

like the Mob, BO strong armed the guy...no question he was the object of extortion...clear out or else no money...ironically he should have said no and sent the company into bankrupcy....he said he's stepping down for the good of the company, but the best thing GM can do is go under and start over....it's less about management than it is about the UAW...they all know this...the CEO was used the same way he's been used by the unions...if he had any guts at all he would have told BO to fuck off and go down with the ship....I have no sympathy for any of them....none, zip, nadda


Although going down with the ship is a noble gestutre, the ship is still going down.
If he told Obama to "Fuck off", There would have been no more public money & they are planning on that money for recovery.
Yeah they do need bankruptcy protection, but he was intimidated to step down & in my mind he was fired by the Federal Government.

998 notutopia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:01:33am

Just a flyby. Have a great day Lizards.
Interesting piece here on the latest Tea Parties via Instapundit.
If they are successful at nothing less, they Are engaging collective and unifying dissent over the economic issues.

[Link: sisu.typepad.com...]

999 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:01:56am

re: #991 Afrocity

It's what's inside that counts.

1000 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:02:00am

re: #887 Iron Fist
Mmm - nope you haven't told me your Morphine story, Bro'! But I take a lot (as far as I'm concerned) of morphine every day at my oncologists orders - and that's three different oncologists and one urologist in two different states) of morphine - I don't get High or a "buzz" but it does stop my feet and leg BONES from hurting too badly cause of the other meds I'm taking for the cancer and of course from the cancer itself.
I consider myself addicted; doc's all say "No, you're not addicted to morphine your dependent on it" - like there's a difference!

1001 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:02:01am

re: #989 sattv4u2

re: #977 Wishing

I went and read the "Bottom Comments" and what the poster was responding too. Moot question, but was the poster warned and yet continued, or did the Wrath Of Stinky just hit unannounced?

Search for Charles' comments. He made his feelings known in advance.

1002 DistantThunder  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:02:26am

re: #994 Occasional Reader

Thanks for a small spot of good news!

Maybe it will be more difficult for him to spread his poisonous ideology that it has in the past when he was under the radar.

1003 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:02:32am

re: #1001 Occasional Reader

Search for Charles' comments. He made his feelings known in advance.

Thanks ,,,will do

1004 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:03:38am

re: #938 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Ah the entourage of the self-important man.

Pettifoggers, lickspittles, nosedusters, pickletossers every manner of person over and above the 10 or twelve actually needed.

Don't forget the all important "fart-catchers"!

1005 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:03:57am

re: #871 realwest

Ah, guess I don't remember those movies as well as I thought I did!
I've had no problems with IE out here (knock on wood) - maybe you have a problem with your version of IE?

BTW -Y'ALL - That Worm - Conflicker or whatever is apparently real. I've got the Geek Squad coming over this afternoon - called 'em yesterday and they confirmed everything that report and Charles said - and when I went to the Windows device link I got a "Page Not Found" so I'm having them back up my system after checking for and clearing out that worm.

that first was a bad link. don't panic!

1006 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:04:06am

re: #991 Afrocity

(Looking down at chest) Uh, sattv don't get your Cheerios all in a smiley face. I am 34A. Hardly mountains majesties more like unfruited plains.

I still find bra sizes rather baffling.

I also find womens' dress sizes baffling. How can one woman who is, say, 5'7", and another who is 5'2, both be a Size 5?

1007 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:04:10am

re: #900 loppydHey there good looking - I'm feeling ok, thanks. But if you're worried about your blood pressure, what did your doctor say - or didn't he say and didn't you ask him/her?!

1008 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:04:30am
1009 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:05:37am

re: #994 Occasional Reader

Thanks for a small spot of good news!

It was canceled at the school. The kids have set up an off-campus meeting instead.

1010 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:06:18am

re: #995 sattv4u2

As they say at sea ,,, any port in the storm! Your personality and conservative views more than compensates

Sheesh, talk about a back-handed compliment, satt!

:P

Anyway, for my part I'm very eclectic in my, er, tastes on that particular subject. (And yes, they can DEFINITELY be too big.)

1011 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:06:44am

re: #988 redc1c4

i prefer fucking.

You have a good memory but, you forgot the quotation marks.

1012 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:06:47am

Obama will shortly Speak onto us about GM or something.

Prepare thyselves.

1013 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:07:15am

re: #1008 Iron Fist

and Charles took his orders straight from Karl Rove?

Isn't it just like a moonbat to get the thing completely ass-backwards?

1014 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:07:16am

Ayers in spite of cancellation

1015 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:07:18am

re: #907 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Hey aboo - avanti's right about that. I've been part of such takeovers in the very early 90's and iirc, WaMu just got taken over lock stock and barrel by the FDIC.
BUT they have a contract with the FDIC that says, essentially, we'll pay X % of our deposits for FDIC insurance and in return the FDIC can take over the bank if we don't meet FDIC requirements.

1016 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:07:37am

re: #1000 realwest

Morning realwest. Yes there is a difference between dependence and addiction. In your case it's needed for just doing day to day things. By helping take the edge off the pain you are functional. I have known a few people on narcotics that needed it to function. I have also known people on narcotics for the buzz. Big difference between the two.

1017 notutopia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:07:40am

re: #1009 Wishing

It was canceled at the school. The kids have set up an off-campus meeting instead.

This should have NEVER been ON campus to begin with.
What young adults do on private property is up to them.

1018 irongrampa  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:08:04am

re: #992 Leonidas Hoplite

You will. Little difficult for me, in that it meant leaving a job and career that I absolutely loved.

1019 Lincolntf  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:08:05am

re: #939 opnion

The CEO was publicly asked by the President to resign. While it may not fall under the exact definition of "fired", the moment Obama said it, the guy was out of a job, so it amounts to the same thing.
I suppose the CEO could have refused and gotten into a public pissing match with The President of the United States. I'm sure that would have gone well for him. When the AIG executives caused embarrasment to the Admin., Obama's grubby little minions descended on their homes. What CEO in the country would want to have to deal with that kind of intimidation? Not to mention the beating the man and his Co. would have faced from the bubbleheaded boobs in the media to whom immediate obeisance to Obama is the prime directive.

1020 Russkilitlover  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:08:31am

Good morning, all - or is it?

Spent the weekend blissfully unaware of any news. Woke up this morning and heard about Obama's takeover of GM and soon Chrysler. Commentary has been mixed. Too many are saying, Yeah but these companies NEED to be restructured; Yeah but they are poorly run; Yeah but they're taking our bailout money; Yeah but, yeah but......

Just like with AIG, the government is picking low hanging fruit right now, it's not hard to whip up the mob against these companies because they really are unlikable. So many folks, conservatives, liberals, and normal people are not too ruffled by any of this.

However, I am shocked and appalled at the.....well, it HAS to be said, the fascist moves that Obama's administration is rolling out every single damn day. And I truly fear that the assaults have been so swift and so "seemingly" in the public interest that we are being conditioned into accepting a whole lot more soon.

Sad, mad, day.

1021 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:08:44am

oBAMA SPEAKETH!

1022 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:08:55am
1023 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:08:56am

re: #1012 itellu3times

Obama will shortly Speak onto us about GM or something.

Prepare thyselves.

Unless he takes questions, he'll talk about his trip. IF he mentions GM, it will be to only say that they have "agreed" to conditions before they get more money, no specifics will be mentioned

1024 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:09:01am

re: #1009 Wishing

It was canceled at the school. The kids have set up an off-campus meeting instead.

Not much one can do about that. But I'm glad that at least school property will not be used to host this turd.

1025 irongrampa  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:09:09am

Think I'll go read that thread with the meltdown.

1026 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:09:35am

re: #919 Irene NYC
Hey there {Irene} it is nice to see you out here! LOL!
Having fun yet, are we?!

1027 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:09:54am

re: #1000 realwest

Mmm - nope you haven't told me your Morphine story, Bro'! But I take a lot (as far as I'm concerned) of morphine every day at my oncologists orders - and that's three different oncologists and one urologist in two different states) of morphine - I don't get High or a "buzz" but it does stop my feet and leg BONES from hurting too badly cause of the other meds I'm taking for the cancer and of course from the cancer itself.
I consider myself addicted; doc's all say "No, you're not addicted to morphine your dependent on it" - like there's a difference!

there is: you are taking it to control pain, not to get high. yes you will have to be weaned of of it after you're healthy again, but that is doable.

1028 jorline  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:10:00am

re: #1021 itellu3times

oBAMA SPEAKETH!

Markets Falleth...more.

1029 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:10:22am

re: #1006 Occasional Reader

I still find bra sizes rather baffling.

I also find womens' dress sizes baffling. How can one woman who is, say, 5'7", and another who is 5'2, both be a Size 5?

Why is that baffling? Bra sizes= The number in my case 34 = the measurement in inches around my chest. The Letter in my case (sadly) A = the cup size or fullness of the breast. So 38C is usually a man's delight. Most who get implants go up to a C cup. I had a friend that was a 46 FF. She had reduction and was much more comfortable.

As far as sizes. Women's sizes do not use height and waist, or chest measurements like men. So it is possible for a woman to be 5'6" and still be a size 6, like her taller sister. We do have Juniors, and Petite sizes too. Most women are Misses in size.

1030 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:10:27am

re: #1006 Occasional Reader

Ever gone shopping with a women? Sizes will vary from store to store, and brand to brand. That's why I like being a guy. Most pants are labelled in inches along with collars. Very simple.

/well there was that one time at H&M where their pants were in "European" sizes...

1031 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:11:22am

oBama has apparently lost patience with the auto industry.

1032 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:11:46am

re: #1011 MandyManners

You have a good memory one track mind but, you forgot the quotation marks.

FTFY!

1033 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:12:27am

re: #931 HoosierHoops
Well, goog morning to you, too. Yes some poster nicnamed yy and Ploome Heini got the stick last night on the prior thread.
Advocating/applauding genocide.

1034 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:12:44am

re: #1029 Afrocity

Why is that baffling?

Oh, I dunno. Lots of things baffle me. Staple removers, for instance.

Women's sizes do not use height and waist, or chest measurements like men.

Okay, so what do they use?

1035 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:13:30am

$700,000,000,000 for improved cupholders.

1036 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:13:38am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

I went back and read the meltdown. I will not shed a tear for the commentor who was banned. Said commentor had been into that type of stuff for quite some time now. I also had a number of run-ins with said commentor over the commentor's bigotry.

However, it is tragic how it went down.

1037 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:13:50am

I checked Charles' blog on the conflicker worm and I was able to load two of the three sites he said to use for checking. I was unable to get the MSN site to load. I did run the malware removal tool and it says I am OK. Do I need to worry any further?

1038 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:13:56am

re: #1019 Lincolntf

The CEO was publicly asked by the President to resign. While it may not fall under the exact definition of "fired", the moment Obama said it, the guy was out of a job, so it amounts to the same thing.
I suppose the CEO could have refused and gotten into a public pissing match with The President of the United States. I'm sure that would have gone well for him. When the AIG executives caused embarrasment to the Admin., Obama's grubby little minions descended on their homes. What CEO in the country would want to have to deal with that kind of intimidation? Not to mention the beating the man and his Co. would have faced from the bubbleheaded boobs in the media to whom immediate obeisance to Obama is the prime directive.

You summed it up nicely. The GM CEO was not doing a great job, but his tenure should be left up to the Board of Directors.
BHO has set a very dangerous precedent & I expect more of the same.
He is ushering Socialism & the MSM still provides cover.

1039 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:14:04am

Some random clouds on the San Gabriel Mountains. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

"... paradise is all around us and we do not understand."

— Thomas Merton.

Good morning Lizards, on this day of artificial (man made) problems.

1040 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:14:15am

re: #1029 Afrocity

Ah, but you still didn't explain why a man's IQ is inversely proportional to a woman's bra size.

1041 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:14:18am

re: #1029 Afrocity

So it is possible for a woman to be 5'6" and still be a size 6,

I was accompanying a female friend shopping a few years back, and she mentioned that she was a size zero.

Does she actually exist?

1042 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:14:24am

re: #1030 BlueCanuck

Oh, please it is hell shopping for men's clothing. Women's is much easier. With my brother, I can never buy him a jacket because I don't have his chest measurement. I can't get his a shirt properly because I can't remember his neck measurement.

1043 vxbush  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:15:00am

re: #1036 Honorary Yooper

I went back and read the meltdown. I will not shed a tear for the commentor who was banned. Said commentor had been into that type of stuff for quite some time now. I also had a number of run-ins with said commentor over the commentor's bigotry.

However, it is tragic how it went down.

Can you just give me a rundown on who was banned? I've got a server to rebuild this morning; massive crash this weekend.

1044 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:15:27am

re: #1036 Honorary Yooper

I went back and read the meltdown. I will not shed a tear for the commentor who was banned. Said commentor had been into that type of stuff for quite some time now. I also had a number of run-ins with said commentor over the commentor's bigotry.

However, it is tragic how it went down.

Frankly, I had wondered how ploome (let's not be coy) had managed to stick around as long as she did. She was often pretty out there.

1045 notutopia  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:15:29am

Superb Humor Charles!

LGF Front page, left bar selector for news sites

Daily Kos
This site has errors.


ROFLMAO!

1046 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:15:39am

re: #1043 vxbush

Can you just give me a rundown on who was banned? I've got a server to rebuild this morning; massive crash this weekend.

Ploome was banned for applauding/advocating genocide.

1047 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:15:59am

re: #824 jorline

What meltdown?

1048 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:12am

re: #1044 Occasional Reader

ploome is banned? Which thread?

1049 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:14am

re: #1030 BlueCanuck

Morning Blue. I won't ask if you had a restful sleep/nap. Any news?

1050 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:17am

re: #1041 Occasional Reader

I was a zero in high school. That is like a European 36 or 34.

1051 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:19am

re: #1036 Honorary Yooper

I went back and read the meltdown. I will not shed a tear for the commentor who was banned. Said commentor had been into that type of stuff for quite some time now. I also had a number of run-ins with said commentor over the commentor's bigotry.

However, it is tragic how it went down.


Who got nailed?

1052 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:30am

re: #1048 Kenneth

ploome is banned? Which thread?

the one before this, iirc.

1053 KenJen  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:32am

re: #1029 Afrocity

Why is that baffling? Bra sizes= The number in my case 34 = the measurement in inches around my chest. The Letter in my case (sadly) A = the cup size or fullness of the breast. So 38C is usually a man's delight. Most who get implants go up to a C cup. I had a friend that was a 46 FF. She had reduction and was much more comfortable.

As far as sizes. Women's sizes do not use height and waist, or chest measurements like men. So it is possible for a woman to be 5'6" and still be a size 6, like her taller sister. We do have Juniors, and Petite sizes too. Most women are Misses in size.

I'm with you. Im 5'10". Weight 130lbs. Wear a size 6. I cant find any pants that fit right. I always look like I'm preparing for a flood.

1054 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:34am

re: #1029 Afrocity

Why is that baffling? Bra sizes= The number in my case 34 = the measurement in inches around my chest. The Letter in my case (sadly) A = the cup size or fullness of the breast.

Miss A, when I'm in the "get to know you" phase, I try to figure out if she has a warm and compassionate heart and a compatible personality. A great smile also goes a long way with me.

1055 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:16:41am

re: #941 Occasional Reader
"The temptations must indeed be great, when you're held up as the God Hero King Who's The Most Beautifullest Guy Ever."

Oh I don't know O.R. - I managed to resist that temptation too!
Oh, and good morning to you!

1056 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:17:03am

Wow. In exchange for Rick Wagoner stepping down, Obama's staff will work with GM to come up with a better plan, will provide capital for 60 days .

(sounds to me like Wagoner called their bluff)

And Chrysler "needs a partner". Fiat!?!?!?! OMG. OMfG. OMfROFLG.

1057 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:17:13am

re: #1046 Honorary Yooper

Big meltdown ...

1058 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:17:41am

re: #1034 Occasional Reader

Okay, so what do they use?

Ouija boards.

1059 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:17:47am

re: #1048 Kenneth

ploome is banned? Which thread?

"Let's Be Honest with the Kids" thread. About #414 or so.

1060 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:17:52am

re: #1046 Honorary Yooper

Ploome was banned for applauding/advocating genocide.

I think *Ploome defended* is probably more accurate.

1061 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:17:58am

re: #1050 Afrocity

Those european sizes always confused the hell out of me.

1062 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:18:34am

re: #1029 Afrocity

The Letter in my case (sadly) A

I say, go ahead and drop the "sadly". Think of it this way; you and gravity will continue to be on perfectly good terms for years to come.

(And again, like I said, I'm very eclectic on this subject.)

1063 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:18:44am

Chrysler - funding for 30 days.

I *guess* this is just a prelude to a double bankruptcy/reorg.

But bambi is making it sound as BAD as possible.

And himself as dumb as possible.

1064 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:18:52am

re: #1053 KenJen

I'm with you. Im 5'10". Weight 130lbs. Wear a size 6. I cant find any pants that fit right. I always look like I'm preparing for a flood.

And I am 5'6" and always stay far, far away from pants because they are too long. I am 37 in the hips, 26 in the waist so that is a problem too with low rise. I end up having this gap of material in the back.

1065 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:18:54am

re: #1056 itellu3times

I owned a Fiat 850 Berlinetta, a great car, LOTS of fun to drive; not an especially durable machine but obviously designed by very talented people.

1066 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:00am

re: #1054 SteveC

Miss A, when I'm in the "get to know you" phase, I try to figure out if she has a warm and compassionate heart and a compatible personality. A great smile also goes a long way with me.

my first point is to find out if the only thing holding her ears apart is a hard vacuum......

fortunately, not all blondes are dumb.

1067 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:02am

re: #1060 Wishing

I think *Ploome defended* is probably more accurate.

I don't see any difference.

1068 vxbush  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #1046 Honorary Yooper

Ploome was banned for applauding/advocating genocide.

Ah. Shame, but if she was pleading for shameful behavior, I'm not surprised.

Goodness, what a Monday. People banned on LGF, my server craps out, I'm still hobbling on a grumpy ankle--I need a month off.

1069 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:24am

re: #1048 Kenneth

ploome is banned? Which thread?

Immediately preceding this one. Defended Baruch Goldstein.

1070 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:34am

Greets and saluts from the fiscally irresponsible NYC metro area. After NJ put up a budget that was a mess, New York decided to outdo its neighbor and rival with a stink bomb that is so bad, that it's going to give CA a run for the money (or at least the size of the deficit it will carry next year). They've come up with a budget that is 10% higher than last year, and imposing billions in new taxes and eliminating property tax relief. It's a house of cards that will come crashing down because there isn't any money to pay for all this, and the state isn't doing a damned thing except kowtow to the unions and lobbyists to pass budgets that it has no business of even contemplating.

1071 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:40am
1072 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:42am

re: #1042 Afrocity

My last take on this, don't want to start a war. :)

Shopping with my ex-wife, went into four different stores. The size she needed varied by about 5 from each store. That was way over the line as far as I was concerned. There seems to be no standard size for womans' clothing as far as I am aware.

1073 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:19:53am

re: #1048 Kenneth

ploome is banned? Which thread?

Just look through the "Bottom Comments" for a sample

1074 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:20:09am

re: #1042 Afrocity

Men's sizes are usually based on the inches around one's neck, chest, and waist, as well as one's arm length and inseam. I find it very straightforward (but then again, I am male). Women's sizes, 0,2,4,etc, baffle me. They seem to be based on no rational I can find.

1075 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:20:19am

re: #1064 Afrocity

And I am 5'6" and always stay far, far away from pants because they are too long. I am 37 in the hips, 26 in the waist so that is a problem too with low rise. I end up having this gap of material in the back.

that's so you can show off your tattoo and your thong......

1076 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:20:46am
1077 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:20:46am

re: #1050 Afrocity

I was a zero in high school.

Hey, a lot of us were!

1078 J.S.  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:00am

So BO claims that he has no intentions of running GM...yeah, sure, now that's believable...not....the Zero just wants to be able to hire, fire and appoint CEOs...not to mention draw up their business plan...Next will be the introduction of the ObamaMobile...

1079 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:02am

re: #1048 Kenneth

the one before this in the #400's

1080 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:11am

re: #1075 redc1c4

that's so you can show off your tattoo and your thong......

AKA Tramp Stamp

1081 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:27am
1082 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:36am

turn in a dirty car, buy a clean car, win a prize.

we'll all be riding unicorns in 90 days.

1083 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:43am

re: #985 DistantThunder
Hey DT! Good for you - Racer X and I got the same letter (albeit signed by a different board member) - I just love to bitch slap Billy Ayers every chance I get!

1084 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:21:44am

re: #1042 Afrocity

Actually, as a guy I agree.

I go suit shopping and they ask me for my measurements and my blank look and Obama-esque "uh......" usually give away my ignorance :P

1085 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:22:14am

re: #1078 J.S.

We have presidents here not monarchs, I find this to be meddling.

1086 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:22:17am
1087 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:22:34am

re: #1056 itellu3times

Wow. In exchange for Rick Wagoner stepping down, Obama's staff will work with GM to come up with a better plan, will provide capital for 60 days .

(sounds to me like Wagoner called their bluff)

And Chrysler "needs a partner". Fiat!?!?!?! OMG. OMfG. OMfROFLG.

What could possibly go wrong? Obama needed a scalp, and Wagoner fit the bill, even though by most accounts Wagoner did the best he could under the circumstances without breaking contracts with the unions. He's cut staff by 50% and it's still not enough. Obama decided that Wagoner had to go, even though shareholders didn't think that was the case.

And now he thinks that the automakers aren't viable? That's after giving them billions that we'll never recoup. Great. Now, he's thinking of liquidation if Chrysler doesn't merge with Fiat. Excellent. Why Fiat? And why decide now that Chrysler deserves to die, when that decision was just as apparent last year before the billions were given?

1088 BlueCanuck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:22:40am

re: #1049 Erik The Red

No news. Called head office and left a message for my CSM. Wasn't in and voice mail message was from last Friday. I might take red's advice and start drinking heavily. I think rum would be a good start. :p

1089 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:23:02am

re: #1064 Afrocity

And I am 5'6" and always stay far, far away from pants because they are too long. I am 37 in the hips, 26 in the waist so that is a problem too with low rise. I end up having this gap of material in the back.

Maybe I could give the both of you the excess fabric I have to have removed from most pants, skirts and dresses. I'm 5'2" and wear a 4P/6P but, even in those sizes, the clothes are too long. Well, Liz Claiborne jeans in either 4S or 6S are okay.

1090 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:23:05am

re: #1041 Occasional Reader

I was accompanying a female friend shopping a few years back, and she mentioned that she was a size zero.

Does she actually exist?

that's a very good point.
the whole sizing thing is a ploy to sell clothes.
it's ridiculous. until the 80's women were normal sizes.
there was no 0.
and in the 50's everybody's mom was a 10 or 12 or a 14.
marilyn monroe was a size 14. today that would be 4.

1091 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:23:06am

My Warranty is going to be backed by the US Government?

I'M SAVED!

1092 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:23:06am

He is "fighting" for working people? Why don't I think he is talking about me?

1093 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:23:49am

re: #941 Occasional Reader

As far as we know. If he remains so, I will give him credit where due. The temptations must indeed be great, when you're held up as the God Hero King Who's The Most Beautifullest Guy Ever.

It's hard for the 0ne to be unfaithful when Michelle keeps his balls and weenie in a locked golden box nestled between her rock-firm breasts.

1094 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:11am
1095 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:21am

naming some kind of car czar to bestow funds on communities ?

1096 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:29am

Dirty Car

1097 Mithrax  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:33am

re: #1093 Alouette

It's hard for the 0ne to be unfaithful when Michelle keeps his balls and weenie in a locked golden box nestled between her rock-firm breasts.

TMI! TMI!

Must get the brain bleach.....

1098 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:41am

re: #1082 itellu3times

turn in a dirty car, buy a clean car, win a prize.

we'll all be riding unicorns in 90 days.

Who will pay for that prize? The public? This is social engineering.

1099 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:46am
1100 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:24:57am

re: #1088 BlueCanuck

If I were there the drinks would be on me:).......
...........................................>

1101 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:25:07am

re: #1041 Occasional Reader

I was accompanying a female friend shopping a few years back, and she mentioned that she was a size zero.

Does she actually exist?

What a fatso. Nicole Ritchie's size is in the negative numbers.

1102 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:25:07am

that put a pinto on the moon, ...

1103 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:25:12am

re: #1092 Nevergiveup

He is "fighting" for working people? Why don't I think he is talking about me?

he's talking about the U Ain't Working people..... not schmucks like you and i.

1104 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:26:04am

no questions, he vanishes in a flash and a puff of smoke

1105 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:26:04am

re: #1009 WishingHuh, DT and Racer X and I were talking about Ayer's proposed speech at Naperville H.S. - I didn't see where any "kids" set up any kind of off campus type of thing.
Y'all got a link for that?

1106 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:26:07am

re: #1076 buzzsawmonkey

Or "cuir bono" if it's a nice leather jacket.

[chanting] "We're here! We're cuir! We're not going away!"

1107 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:26:29am

nationalized car warrenties!

1108 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:26:52am

re: #1092 Nevergiveup

He is "fighting" for working people? Why don't I think he is talking about me?

Silly me, I thought he was fighting the working people.

1109 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:27:05am

re: #1105 realwest

Huh, DT and Racer X and I were talking about Ayer's proposed speech at Naperville H.S. - I didn't see where any "kids" set up any kind of off campus type of thing.
Y'all got a link for that?

Posted the link above.

1110 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:27:26am

re: #1069 Occasional Reader

Ok, thanks.

Tis a shame. Ploome had some worthwhile things to say sometimes, but she had a tendency to go ballistic out of the blue. That one was a doozy.

1111 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:27:32am

chris mathews & company now thrilled and analyzing and interpreting and spinning. squeeze my master cylinder until the juice runs down my tires.

1112 Dianna  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:27:53am

I love that poem.

1113 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:28:00am

did he even mention the unions?

1114 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:28:25am

re: #1089 MandyManners

I'm 5'2"

Eyes of blue?
Turned-up nose, turned-down hose?

1115 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:28:32am

re: #1113 phoenixgirl

did he even mention the unions?

To mention them is to bring ruin, and he likes them, so mum's the word.

1116 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:28:35am

re: #1101 Alouette

What a fatso. Nicole Ritchie's size is in the negative numbers.

One of my girls (now 16 and in a 3) was once a 000 ... tall and thin ... which forced me to buy jeans at precisely one specialty store at the mall. I HATE the mall.

1117 godfrey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:28:52am
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold

Chinua Achebe wrote a good book called "Things Fall Apart," having that verse in mind.

1118 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:29:17am

re: #1014 Wishing
ah, the BC college speech - that's different! And of course it was the college DEMOCRATS who arranged to have him speak by satellite.
I'm not in the least surprised by this.
Wish we could get the widow of the cop killed by Ayers wife to speak to them by satellite and tell them how bombs "intended to only destroy property" had all kinds of nails and other shrapnel in them.

1119 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:29:18am
1120 vxbush  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:29:35am

re: #1090 nyc redneck

that's a very good point.
the whole sizing thing is a ploy to sell clothes.
it's ridiculous. until the 80's women were normal sizes.
there was no 0.
and in the 50's everybody's mom was a 10 or 12 or a 14.
marilyn monroe was a size 14. today that would be 4.

I'm not so sure I believe a 14 of the 60's corresponds to a four today. Do you have a link for that?

I agree women's sizes are ridiculous, but then I've always been large. Never smaller than a 10.

1121 yochanan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:29:45am

re: #1041 Occasional Reader

SIZE ZERO is just boney

1122 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:30:22am
1123 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:30:45am

re: #1111 itellu3times

chris mathews & company now thrilled and analyzing and interpreting and spinning. squeeze my master cylinder until the juice runs down my tires.

Meanwhile, they've got a 5 person panel on CNBC, and 4 of them look like someone just crapped in their cornflakes. The fifth one looks like he's asleep.

1124 godfrey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:30:57am

Is this the European court of assizes?

1125 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:31:03am

re: #1072 BlueCanuck

That is why there is a chair there for the men to sit in while we change our clothes in the fitting room/

1126 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:31:04am

re: #1063 itellu3times

Chrysler - funding for 30 days.

I *guess* this is just a prelude to a double bankruptcy/reorg.

But bambi is making it sound as BAD as possible.

And himself as dumb as possible.

BO is using everybody...all of us to 'save' the day...it's a disgrace

1127 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:31:15am

re: #1016 BlueCanuck
Good morning Blue! Thanks, but the fact is I NEED the morphine or I go into opiate withdrawal which is a long way from painful, much less fun.
Any further news on your job front?

1128 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:32:03am

welcome to the acorn bus tour........today we will be driving past the gm executive homes. please refrain from dumping excessive lighter fluid on their homes, we don't want any of our guests losing their eye brows!/

1129 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #1120 vxbush

I'm not so sure I believe a 14 of the 60's corresponds to a four today. Do you have a link for that?

I agree women's sizes are ridiculous, but then I've always been large. Never smaller than a 10.

Super-expensive designer clothes are cut large in order to flatter the wealthy women who buy them. A size 4 $10,000 designer gown could be the same dimensions as a 14 from Wal Mart.

1130 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:32:31am

re: #1117 godfrey

Chinua Achebe wrote a good book called "Things Fall Apart," having that verse in mind.

My kid was assigned that book at school, so I read it. Really a gripping story.

1131 tfc3rid  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:33:02am

Morning all...

Enjoyed the first baseball game at Citi Field here in NY yesterday. Georgetown beat St. john's in Big East baseball... The new ballpark is stunningly beautiful... Goes to show what $800 Million can get you...

1132 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:33:08am

re: #1048 Kenneth

ploome is banned? Which thread?

K,
Just read the posts, uneffing believable. I always liked ploomie but that was some serious crazy shit.

1133 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:33:14am

re: #1121 yochanan

SIZE ZERO is just boney

In her case, not so. She's a very well-proportioned, attractive woman, who stands about 5'2" (but no eyes of blue, cootchie cootchie cootchie-coo).

1134 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:33:20am

re: #1105 realwest

Huh, DT and Racer X and I were talking about Ayer's proposed speech at Naperville H.S. - I didn't see where any "kids" set up any kind of off campus type of thing.
Y'all got a link for that?

It's Naperville North H.S (there are three, North, Central, and South). District 203 is apparently reviewing the decision to have Ayres speak at Naperville North.

1135 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:33:27am
1136 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:33:59am

re: #1114 Occasional Reader

Eyes of blue?
Turned-up nose, turned-down hose?

milk-chocolate/amber
normal, I hate hose

1137 godfrey  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:34:04am

I hear you can get a new-fangled Brioni suit for $43,000.

1138 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:34:08am

re: #1120 vxbush

What always struck me as odd is the fact that men's clothing was rationally based - waist size, inseam, arm length, chest size.

You could get a pair of pants for 36 waist, 34 inseam, and the pants fit.

A woman? You've got a size 8, which makes no difference as to inseam or anything else for that matter. It's just a seemingly arbitrary number.

I see it all the time when shopping with the Mrs. I can buy a pair of pants and know exactly how it should fit based on the numbers, but the Mrs. will have to try on every pair of pants in the place because there's no way to tell. It's insane.

1139 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:34:19am

re: #1135 buzzsawmonkey

Actually the flattery starts the minute the customer walks into the salon, before they ever get to the clothes.

It's got to sting those places, having to install methods to clean up all that purse dog poo.

1140 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:34:21am
1141 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:35:07am

re: #1132 VegasRick

K,
Just read the posts, uneffing believable. I always liked ploomie but that was some serious crazy shit.

What thread?

1142 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:35:35am

re: #1113 phoenixgirl

did he even mention the unions?

the unions are the feds bitches...they got a good thing going

1143 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:36:17am

re: #1141 Nevergiveup

What thread?

The one before this one. around comments 450. Unreal!

1144 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:36:18am

re: #1129 Alouette

Super-expensive designer clothes are cut large in order to flatter the wealthy women who buy them. A size 4 $10,000 designer gown could be the same dimensions as a 14 from Wal Mart.

I've found that the nicer clothes have more fabric so that they can be tailored if needed.

1145 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:36:19am

re: #1137 godfrey

I hear you can get a new-fangled Brioni suit for $43,000.

I've seen them offered at Saks for a mere $7,000 or so.

/the mind reels

1146 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:36:29am

re: #1140 Iron Fist

Didn't you get the memo? Obama won! Now he can do whatever he likes and we're not allowed to bitch about it, let alone have orur representatives actually represent us and vote his shit down. So now he wants to play mix and match with the auto industry. Well, that should keep him busy enough that he doesn't tackle Socializing medicine, or implement hars new gun control laws. I'm very much afraid that is the best that we can do in an Obama Administration. The Republicans (especially in the house) should just vote "present" unless the bill is too egriegous or there is a chance of defeating the bill.

The Democrats wanted the power. Make them shoulder the responsability for their actions.

here's what one Obama supporter thinks:

: An opinion equating OUR President (if you consider yourself an American, he is every American citizen's President) to a brutal, repressive dictator who commits heinous crimes against his own citizens is beyond the pale with regard to a serious, civilized discussion. It's as irresponsible as Rep. Michele Bachmann's recent calls for violent revolution against the rightfully elected U.S. government--it is treasonous. In light of those comments by a member of Congress, I understand now why there are so many who wish to retain the 2nd Amendment. These individuals, collectively, wish to retain the means to violently overthrow the U.S. government when they decide that it no longer conforms to their political ideology

1147 vxbush  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:36:34am

re: #1138 lawhawk

What always struck me as odd is the fact that men's clothing was rationally based - waist size, inseam, arm length, chest size.

You could get a pair of pants for 36 waist, 34 inseam, and the pants fit.

A woman? You've got a size 8, which makes no difference as to inseam or anything else for that matter. It's just a seemingly arbitrary number.

I see it all the time when shopping with the Mrs. I can buy a pair of pants and know exactly how it should fit based on the numbers, but the Mrs. will have to try on every pair of pants in the place because there's no way to tell. It's insane.

No disagreement there. One of the many reasons why I hate shopping. All the clothes are designed for women who are smaller than a 12. I was never small to begin with, and age hasn't helped.

1148 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:36:54am

re: #1131 tfc3rid

Morning all...

Enjoyed the first baseball game at Citi Field here in NY yesterday. Georgetown beat St. john's in Big East baseball... The new ballpark is stunningly beautiful... Goes to show what $800 Million can get you...

wait til they unveil the new Texas Stadium...1.2B

1149 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:37:05am

re: #1140 Iron Fist

Didn't you get the memo? Obama won! Now he can do whatever he likes and we're not allowed to bitch about it, let alone have orur representatives actually represent us and vote his shit down. So now he wants to play mix and match with the auto industry. Well, that should keep him busy enough that he doesn't tackle Socializing medicine, or implement hars new gun control laws. I'm very much afraid that is the best that we can do in an Obama Administration. The Republicans (especially in the house) should just vote "present" unless the bill is too egriegous or there is a chance of defeating the bill.

The Democrats wanted the power. Make them shoulder the responsability for their actions.

Fine. Obama is breaking the automakers and the auto industry. He owns it. Literally and figuratively. Bush may have extended them a lifeline (which I argued was wrong), but Obama is throwing them an anvil with his heavy handed tactics.

1150 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:37:27am

re: #1056 itellu3times
I thought Chrysler's "partner" was gonna be Peugeot?!

1151 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:37:38am

re: #1136 MandyManners

I hate hose

We will not tolerate hate speech directed against "sex workers" on this blog, young lady.

1152 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:37:38am

re: #1141 Nevergiveup

Just check out the 'Bottom Comments" to get a sample

1153 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:38:12am

re: #1092 Nevergiveup

He is "fighting" for working people? Why don't I think he is talking about me?

People who are "working" for ACORN.

1154 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:38:12am

re: #1150 realwest

I thought Chrysler's "partner" was gonna be Peugeot?!

they have standards Chrysler couldn't meet...

1155 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:38:16am

I'm not sure oBambi is doing anything that doesn't have to be done, but he's really making it as ugly and difficult as possible.

Of course Rick Wagoner's firing was political, and (again I'm guessing) probably at least semi-voluntary, he not wanting to play this game.

1156 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:38:18am
1157 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:38:44am

re: #1153 Ward Cleaver

People who are "working" for ACORN.

they get enough people there, they'll be ready for war.

1158 phoenixgirl  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:38:56am

re: #1149 lawhawk

Fine. Obama is breaking the automakers and the auto industry. He owns it. Literally and figuratively. Bush may have extended them a lifeline (which I argued was wrong), but Obama is throwing them an anvil with his heavy handed tactics.

he may own it, but he was very clear, very transparent, HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN RUNNING IT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

1159 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:39:18am

re: #1141 Nevergiveup

What thread?

Previous thread.

Having just scanned it, let's just say I'm glad I go to bed early.

/Watching someone self-destruct isn't funny, and that was definitely a self-destruct.

cheers

eon

1160 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:39:44am

re: #1140 Iron Fist

Didn't you get the memo? Obama won! Now he can do whatever he likes and we're not allowed to bitch about it, let alone have orur representatives actually represent us and vote his shit down. So now he wants to play mix and match with the auto industry. Well, that should keep him busy enough that he doesn't tackle Socializing medicine, or implement hars new gun control laws. I'm very much afraid that is the best that we can do in an Obama Administration. The Republicans (especially in the house) should just vote "present" unless the bill is too egriegous or there is a chance of defeating the bill.

The Democrats wanted the power. Make them shoulder the responsability for their actions.

(NV) Not voting might be a better statement than Present, and then the Dems couldn't accuse them of being obstructionists. It would also place all of the responsibility for their out of control spending on the Dems. With the push for reconciliation votes for health care and the budget, it seems that the Dems can't count on solidarity from within their ranks, let alone from Snow,Collins and Specter.

1161 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:40:05am

re: #1156 buzzsawmonkey

Why Fiat?

Well, Obama clearly wants to govern by fiat, and of course he has a number of fiat cats he wants to appease.

i think he's just a pussy and thought this was the purrfectway to deal with things.

1162 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:40:10am

Peter De Lorenzo at The Autoextremist has a good take on the Wagoner "resignation".

1163 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:40:17am
1164 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:40:23am

re: #1159 eon

Previous thread.

Having just scanned it, let's just say I'm glad I go to bed early.

/Watching someone self-destruct isn't funny, and that was definitely a self-destruct.

cheers

eon

Yep, kinda sad to see.

1165 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:40:58am

re: #1156 buzzsawmonkey

Why Fiat?

Well, Obama clearly wants to govern by fiat, and of course he has a number of fiat cats he wants to appease.

I can't wait to hear Berlusconi's reaction.

/Somewhere around "Expletive Deleted" would be my guess.

cheers

eon

1166 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:02am

Charles is out at Dennys...I'll bet he's a whole wheat toast kinda guy

1167 Macker  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:12am

re: #1156 buzzsawmonkey

Fix It Again, Tony!

1168 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:16am

re: #1163 buzzsawmonkey

One clumsy waiter with a bowl of bouillabaise and the price of a new SUV is shot to hell.

that's what you get for eating that sort of thing.

1169 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:22am
1170 JCM  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:26am
"Our auto industry is not moving in the right direction fast enough to succeed," Obama said, citing a variety of steps including more emergency loans, helping to reorganize the companies, supplying more credit for consumers and guaranteeing warranties on new cars .

The auto industry is now socialized.

1171 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:28am

re: #1156 buzzsawmonkey

Why Fiat?

Well, Obama clearly wants to govern by fiat, and of course he has a number of fiat cats he wants to appease.

And given Obama's self-regard, I'm guessing the first car to be produced by this new partnership will be one designed by him, personally: The 2010 Fiat Lux.

1172 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:32am

re: #1166 albusteve

Charles is out at Dennys...I'll bet he's a whole wheat toast kinda guy

One thing he is NOT is a WAFFLE(r)

1173 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:35am

Larry Kudlow just said that he had never seen a Fiat and asked what one looked like! One of the other panelists jumps in and says "Oh! It's a little car that is sold in Europe, really nice..." and everyone is chuckling. Kudlow is being sarcastic and this airhead is taking him seriously!

1174 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:37am

re: #1120 vxbush

They are also "vanity sizing" lately. J Crew is very guilty of doing this. If Michelle Obama is a 4, then I am a size -6.

1175 soxfan4life  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:41:48am

re: #1142 albusteve

the unions are the feds bitches...they got a good thing going

Other way around, the feds are the unions bitches.

1176 Macker  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:42:10am

re: #1166 albusteve

And how do you know this?

1177 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:42:40am

re: #1143 VegasRick

The one before this one. around comments 450. Unreal!

Yeah I went there and read it. Well Ploomi had a tendency to get carried away about some subjects. I am sorry she defended Goldstein in any manner what so ever. He was a murderer period!

1178 redc1c4  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:43:03am

gotta get going: i have drop dead time hacks to hit today.

1179 JCM  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:43:04am

re: #1170 JCM

What would Obama know about how an industry succeeds?

1180 SteveC  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:43:09am

Larry Kudlow on CNBC: "So, how many of those Fiat things do they sell here in the states? 32? 33?"

1181 albusteve  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:43:15am

re: #1176 Macker

And how do you know this?

he just called...

1182 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:43:35am

re: #1081 Iron Fist
LOL! That was a pretty funny story! No my damn doctors - even in the hospital for three weeks with a morphine pump NEVER gave me enough to get high, the pricks!
Percocet, OTOH, just gave me an upset stomach and I never got high at all (maybe cause I kept throwing up the pills!).
And yes I do remember my friend. How could I ever forget?
[manly hug] Iron Fist.

1183 eon  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:44:07am

re: #1171 Occasional Reader

And given Obama's self-regard, I'm guessing the first car to be produced by this new partnership will be one designed by him, personally: The 2010 Fiat Lux.

Upding, courtesy of my having read A Canticle for Leibowitz.

cheers

eon

1184 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:44:09am
1185 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:44:54am
1186 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:45:00am

re: #1177 Nevergiveup

Yeah I went there and read it. Well Ploomi had a tendency to get carried away about some subjects. I am sorry she defended Goldstein in any manner what so ever. He was a murderer period!

Hard to imagine her defending that guy but she really did go WAY over the top.

1187 windhorse  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:45:06am

let the big three, and everyone else in this country, live and die by their own decisions. What the F business is it of Obama's or anyone else who isn't a share holder. this is unreal.

1188 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:45:22am

Hey Lizard pals, a friend just gave me a link to this video with Kay Baily Hutchinson (R-Texas) and Hillary Clinton speaking at a women's museum. It is actually very nice to see.


[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

1189 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:45:32am

re: #1170 JCM

The auto industry is now socialized.

From your link:

"We cannot, we must not, and we will not let our auto industry simply vanish," Obama said.

Cannot, must not, and will not!

Am I the only one getting tired of Obama's cut-rate "eloquence"?

1190 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:45:41am

re: #1174 Afrocity

They are also "vanity sizing" lately. J Crew is very guilty of doing this. If Michelle Obama is a 4, then I am a size -6.

FOUR? With her bone structure?!

1191 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:46:24am

re: #1189 Occasional Reader

Yes!

1192 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:46:48am

re: #1174 Afrocity

That's brilliant. Vanity-sizing. Did you make that up?

1193 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:46:54am

re: #1015 realwest

Hey real, that part I had understood and I understand the details when one of the banks buys-out or merges with the another on a corporate level. The part that is sticking in my craw a bit is when the FDIC seizes say this bank in GA, what would be the motivation behind firing of the management on the branch level which would also be seized and is really the point I'm driving at.

1194 Catttt  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:46:56am

I know this is ridiculously late on the thread, but great poem choice, Charles. The Second Coming is one of my all-time favorites. Two claws up.

1195 opnion  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:46:59am

re: #1142 albusteve

the unions are the feds bitches...they got a good thing going

BHO can't alienate the Unions & get reelected. That is why all his talk about merit rewards for good teachers will never happen.

1196 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:47:32am

re: #1169 Iron Fist

Molon Labe are our watchwords

We have molon labe, but they have the moron lobby. I'm not sure which is stronger...

1197 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:47:36am

re: #1177 Nevergiveup

Yeah I went there and read it. Well Ploomi had a tendency to get carried away about some subjects. I am sorry she defended Goldstein in any manner what so ever. He was a murderer period!


Good morning NGU! Hope today finds you well..
I just read the last thread also...whoa!

1198 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:47:54am

re: #1087 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk -

And now he thinks that the automakers aren't viable? That's after giving them billions that we'll never recoup. Great. Now, he's thinking of liquidation if Chrysler doesn't merge with Fiat. Excellent. Why Fiat? And why decide now that Chrysler deserves to die, when that decision was just as apparent last year before the billions were given?

it's cause as I keep saying, Obama is STUPID. I don't give damn where he graduated from what schools, he's nothing but an empty suit, Chicago Political Machine style 3-card monte dealer. PERIOD.

1199 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:48:05am

re: #1069 Occasional Reader

Oy.

1200 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:48:31am

Dear President Obama,

Last Wednesday I was driving in Pontiac LeMans when the hub cap fell of the the right rear wheel. Even though the care is close to thirty years old, I do not think I should have to pay for a new one. I just heard you were going to have the US government take over my warranty. I have not been able to sleep nights knowing if my warranty was going to be any good but now that I know you will be backing my car, I think I will keep my LeMans another three years until the wind turbine powered version ships in 2011 like you promised.

Please send my new hub cap to Charles Johnson at littlegreenfootballs.com he know how to get a hold of me.

Thanks and I really appreciate you efforts to make peace with Iran, the Mullahs will soon be letting you paddle their bare asses on the main drag in Tehran.

Love, as always,

Ghilmeini

1201 JCM  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:49:14am

re: #1189 Occasional Reader

Cannot, must not, and will not!

Am I the only one getting tired of Obama's cut-rate "eloquence"?

Capitalism.
Creative Destruction.
It's not part intelligent design, part un-intelligent design, part Evolutionary.

Failure eventually will breed success. Meddling in the natural process only reinforces failure.

1202 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:50:02am

re: #1192 WriterMom

That's brilliant. Vanity-sizing. Did you make that up?

Ha! I wish. I used to be a J Crew 8 in pants, then I dropped down to a 4. I knew something was up. But I buy lots of vintage clothing and I am a vintage 12, so I guess women get bigger.

1203 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:50:41am

re: #1061 Mithrax

They use the metric system. No quarter pounders with cheese there.

1204 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:51:01am

re: #1184 buzzsawmonkey

A clumsy waiter carrying it to the next table can destroy your suit just as easily.

I recall an apocryphal story that one of the major American dictionaries defined "Schlemiel" as "A waiter who carelessly spills soup upon a customer", and "Schlemazel" simply as "the customer upon whom the soup is spilled".

1205 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:51:20am
1206 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:52:16am

re: #1174 Afrocity

If Michelle Obama is a 4

Seams fall apart; the stitching cannot hold.

1207 huckfunn  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:52:28am

Saturday night there was a thread about Naperville North High School inviting Bill Ayres to speak. I emailed my disgust to the entire school board and high school principal. The following is an email that I received this morning from one of the board members:

Thank you very much for your e-mail regarding Ayers visit to Naperville North High School. I too have been concerned about this event since learning of it last week, and have been working on it since. I want to advise you that this event has been canceled. A formal announcement will follow later today via Talk 203.

District 203 Board of Education

Looks like Bill won't be going to Naperville.

1208 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:53:01am

re: #1134 Honorary Yooper
Thanks HY - but the letter I got said cancelled, not reconsidered.

1209 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:53:20am
1210 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:53:40am

re: #1200 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

You won;'t have to have your new hubcap shipped. i'm sure there'll be an entire Cabinet Department Gov't Beauracracy that will do nothing but come to your home (which the gov't is paying the mortgage for) to handle the warranty repairs

1211 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:53:45am

re: #1206 Occasional Reader

Really good one.

1212 Wishing  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:55:04am

re: #1171 Occasional Reader

And given Obama's self-regard, I'm guessing the first car to be produced by this new partnership will be one designed by him, personally: The 2010 Fiat Lux.

I am selling my Volkswagen.

1213 Taqiyyotomist  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 8:57:48am

re: #1188 Afrocity

Hey Lizard pals, a friend just gave me a link to this video with Kay Baily Hutchinson (R-Texas) and Hillary Clinton speaking at a women's museum. It is actually very nice to see.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

No offense, but f**&* Hilary. She just received the "Margaret Sanger Award" from PP at a "gala event" on Friday, and brags about it on her site at state.

What kind of piece of dog s*** would even receive this award, (named in "honor" of a eugenicist who wanted to kill blacks and the "mentally unfit" and wanted to "purify" the gene pool through the panacea of abortion, then brag about it. F*** Hilary Clinton.

1214 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:00:10am

That idiot Fred Phelps, and his idiotic gang are in DC today. They're protesting (among other) things, a high school named after a "fag" (Walt Whitman).

[Link: dcist.com...]

If there's one thing the left and right can agree on, it's that Phelps is a hateful moron.

1215 realwest  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:00:33am

re: #1169 Iron Fist
"Don't Tread On Me/ Molon Labe are our watchwords."
They are good, but I still prefer "De Oppresso Liber"

1216 JCM  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:01:41am

re: #1214 Mad Al-Jaffee

That idiot Fred Phelps, and his idiotic gang are in DC today. They're protesting (among other) things, a high school named after a "fag" (Walt Whitman).

[Link: dcist.com...]

If there's one thing the left and right can agree on, it's that Phelps is a hateful moron.

What I would pay to see the look on Phelps' face when St. Peter tells him to fuck off.

1217 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:04:24am

re: #1215 realwest

"Don't Tread On Me/ Molon Labe are our watchwords."
They are good, but I still prefer "De Oppresso Liber"

Wasn't Molon Labe an NHL player? Or am I thinking of Moe L'Abbe? He played for the Dallas Blackhawks.

1218 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:12:24am

re: #1213 Taqiyyotomist

No offense, but f**&* Hilary. She just received the "Margaret Sanger Award" from PP at a "gala event" on Friday, and brags about it on her site at state.

What kind of piece of dog s*** would even receive this award, (named in "honor" of a eugenicist who wanted to kill blacks and the "mentally unfit" and wanted to "purify" the gene pool through the panacea of abortion, then brag about it. F*** Hilary Clinton.

I was at the Dallas Catholic Pro-Life Committee dinner on Saturday night, and the keynote speaker was Gianna Jessen, 31-year-old survivor of a saline abortion (at 7 1/2 months of gestation). Despite having cerebral palsy as a result of the botched abortion, she completed the London Marathon in 2006, and has met Tony Blair, and President Bush. She's an inspiring speaker.

1219 wiffersnapper  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:35:00am

Nice poem!

1220 Aye Pod  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 9:45:55am

I wonder why TFK downdinged this thread? Was Yeats a 'commie sonofabitch' or something?/

1221 Catttt  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 10:57:30am

re: #1218 Ward Cleaver

I was at the Dallas Catholic Pro-Life Committee dinner on Saturday night, and the keynote speaker was Gianna Jessen, 31-year-old survivor of a saline abortion (at 7 1/2 months of gestation). Despite having cerebral palsy as a result of the botched abortion, she completed the London Marathon in 2006, and has met Tony Blair, and President Bush. She's an inspiring speaker.

Wow! I've seen her on TV - awesome that you got to hear her speak.

Speaking as a bastard child of teens and a Catholic Charities baby, I count my lucky stars all the time that I am here.

1222 Engnrman  Mon, Mar 30, 2009 11:27:24am

Most powerfull (production) handgun in the world?

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