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“Faith” is a fine invention
When Gentlemen can see —
But Microscopes are prudent
In an Emergency.
— Emily Dickinson
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zombie Wed, May 27, 2009 11:13:24pm |
I still can't figure out if Emily Dickenson is a subtle genius or just a very unsophisticated poet.
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HelloDare Wed, May 27, 2009 11:14:48pm |
In my opinion, Emily Dickenson needed to get out of the house more often.
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Bobblehead Wed, May 27, 2009 11:17:23pm |
Anyone feeling more than a little bit melancholy tonight? Something for those who wish to wallow..
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:18:23pm |
re: #2 zombie
I still can't figure out if Emily Dickenson is a subtle genius or just a very unsophisticated poet.
Unsophisticated. That reminds me of the Bay Area Figurative Movement in art. Suddenly the unsophisticated becomes sophisticated.
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Racer X Wed, May 27, 2009 11:18:23pm |
Democrat Quotes.....
'It doesn't matter if the planet is cooling and plants need it to live. We still have to ban carbon dioxide.' - Henry Waxman
'The next Person that tells me I'm not religious, I'm going to shove my rosary beads up their ASS.' - Joe Biden
'America is--is no longer, uh, what it--it, uh, could be, uh what it was once was...uh, and I say to myself, 'uh, I don't want that future, uh, uh for my children.' - Barack Obama
'You don't need God anymore, you have us democrats.' - Nancy Pelosi
'Paying taxes is voluntary.' - Harry Reid
'The days of "traditional values" and strong foreign policy are over.' - Chuck Schumer
'I do not regard Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as problems, I regard them as great assets. I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. Fannie and Freddie pose no threat to the Treasury.' - Barney Frank
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HelloDare Wed, May 27, 2009 11:20:44pm |
re: #7 Racer X
Do you have a link for those quotes all in one place?
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:23:12pm |
re: #5 Bobblehead
Anyone feeling more than a little bit melancholy tonight? Something for those who wish to wallow..
[Video]
She put him out like the burnin' end of a midnight cigarette
She broke his heart he spent his whole life tryin' to forget
We watched him drink his pain away a little at a time
But he never could get drunk enough to get her off his mind
Until the night1st Chorus
He put that bottle to his head and pulled the trigger
And finally drank away her memory
Life is short but this time it was bigger
Than the strength he had to get up off his knees
We found him with his face down in the pillow
With a note that said I'll love her till I die
And when we buried him beneath the willow
The angels sang a whiskey lullaby(Sing lullaby)
The rumors flew but nobody know how much she blamed herself
For years and years she tried to hide the whiskey on her breath
She finally drank her pain away a little at a time
But she never could get drunk enough to get him off her mind
Until the night2nd Chorus
She put that bottle to her head and pulled the trigger
And finally drank away his memory
Life is short but this time it was bigger
Than the strength she had to get up off her knees
We found her with her face down in the pillow
Clinging to his picture for dear life
We laid her next to him beneath the willow
While the angels sang a whiskey lullaby(Sing lullaby)
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Racer X Wed, May 27, 2009 11:23:14pm |
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redc1c4 Wed, May 27, 2009 11:24:43pm |
and on that cheerful note, i'll announce that LoL is having technical problems, and i'm going to bed.
fruitcup is in the frig: help yourselves.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:26:06pm |
re: #11 redc1c4
and on that cheerful note, i'll announce that LoL is having technical problems, and i'm going to bed.
fruitcup is in the frig: help yourselves.
Happy rat huntin'. When the time comes.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 27, 2009 11:30:51pm |
Evening Lizards are the best!
I'm just sayin'
Hope everyone is well~
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The Left Wed, May 27, 2009 11:32:55pm |
And in today's edition of Stupid Pundit Tricks, NRO's The Corner decides to attack Sotomoyer for.....
calling herself "Latina" and the way she pronounces her name.
Link: [Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
...because this will be a real winning strategy and endear the GOP to the Latino vote. Obviously.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:33:10pm |
re: #13 Floral Giraffe
Evening Lizards are the best!
I'm just sayin'Hope everyone is well~
Indeed! Listening to Merle Haggard on Youtube.
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freedomplow Wed, May 27, 2009 11:33:24pm |
Charles,
I like Obama, not his policies.
I like LGF too.
Just hoping we can be honest here.
You like Obama a little more than I and most of your readers do.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 11:33:44pm |
re: #2 zombie
Hey zombie - on the prior thread you posted:
"#264 zombie :: Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:09:51 pm
The Republican Party is now composed of eunuchs. They are whipped, beaten and submissive."
and I asked why you felt that way about Satamayor's nomination (that being the thread topic) but I guess you jumped over here before you saw that question.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:35:12pm |
re: #17 freedomplow
Dude, this is the LNDT. I've never seen that kind of talk here before. You have something to say to Charles write him an email or do it in something other than the LNDT.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 11:37:55pm |
Well I'd like to see zombie's answer to my #18, but I must go to bed NOW! LOL!
Zombie, if you're still around and would like to answer that question I'd appreciate it - but I'll have to read it later today (it's now 2:35 Am Eastern time! YIKES!).
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Steffan Wed, May 27, 2009 11:39:55pm |
re: #2 zombie
I still can't figure out if Emily Dickenson is a subtle genius or just a very unsophisticated poet.
From what I've read of her, she was very very very reclusive. She didn't interact with her neighbors, no way no how, nope nope nope. Unsophistication might very well have been her schtick. However, I wouldn't put subtle genius past her.
I mean, jeez. Look at the Brontë sisters. They wanted to support their wastrel brother. His works are doomed to mediocracy and the very dull death of dilligaf. His sisters, however.... Ever hear of a book called Wuthering Heights?
Like Elton John said, I would have liked to have known her. I sincerely doubt, however, that she would have tolerated me in her presence, much less her personal life.
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Kronocide Wed, May 27, 2009 11:40:27pm |
Since there's not to many of us here to share, I'll break out the good stuff. If you put an ice cube into it or use a shot glass I'll fricken kill ya.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:40:55pm |
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 11:41:18pm |
re: #26 BigPapa
Since there's not to many of us here to share, I'll break out the good stuff. If you put an ice cube into it or use a shot glass I'll fricken kill ya.
Glenmoranghie?
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The Left Wed, May 27, 2009 11:42:58pm |
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gmsc Wed, May 27, 2009 11:42:59pm |
For Zombie:
I'm just curious as to how pure a Zombie you actually are!
;)
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, May 27, 2009 11:43:53pm |
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Kronocide Wed, May 27, 2009 11:45:54pm |
re: #28 pink freud
I'm back on tequila now. Haven't the Glenmoranghie yet.
There's a new Steinlager commercial on with a really cool song. Driving me nuts trying to find it. I thought it was some kinda neo-900 Foot Jesus thing, or maybe Beck. WTF?
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mrclark Wed, May 27, 2009 11:46:14pm |
re: #27 Gus 802
You get to choose one:
A) 0
B) 1
I'm from Chicago...here we're allowed to go both ways... 0 and 1
and as many times as we like, as long as we pay our union dues.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 11:46:25pm |
Now I know you're not calling me "sir", are you, checkered capybara? ;-)
/evening, thou of good taste!
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:47:14pm |
re: #30 gmsc
For Zombie:
I'm just curious as to how pure a Zombie you actually are!
;)
Great. I guessed all of the questions and ended up with "could not open page."
/Doh!
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Steffan Wed, May 27, 2009 11:48:03pm |
re: #26 BigPapa
Since there's not to many of us here to share, I'll break out the good stuff. If you put an ice cube into it or use a shot glass I'll fricken kill ya.
Reminds me of a story told by H. Allen Smith of an old KY Colonel.
There were a lot of those around, I'm told.
The story was about a Southern gentleman who always closed his eyes before he imbibed.
When asked about it, he said:
"The sight of good whiskey makes my mouth water, sir, and I do not believe in diluting my drink."
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:48:57pm |
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 11:49:36pm |
re: #32 BigPapa
I'm back on tequila now. Haven't the Glenmoranghie yet.
There's a new Steinlager commercial on with a really cool song. Driving me nuts trying to find it. I thought it was some kinda neo-900 Foot Jesus thing, or maybe Beck. WTF?
I'm in Louisiana, BP. We don't get steinlager commercials here.
/We sum ole backwoods schlitz types ....
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freedomplow Wed, May 27, 2009 11:50:42pm |
re: #19 Gus 802
Are you serious?
Been around here a while.
Hopefully.. Charles knows I respect him to the teeth.
Never went anywhere else to ask a question or to blast him.
And never will.
Gus 802... Appreciate your sincerity.
Hopefully you will learn to appreciate mine as well.
Not trying to be a d*ck...
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Kronocide Wed, May 27, 2009 11:51:35pm |
re: #38 Gus 802
01001101011000010110101101100101001000000111001101110101011100100110010100100000011110010110111101110101001000000110010001110010011010010110111001101011001000000111100101101111011101010111001000100000010011110111011001100001011011000111010001101001011011100110010100100001
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 11:51:49pm |
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:52:48pm |
re: #40 freedomplow
Are you serious?
Been around here a while.
Hopefully.. Charles knows I respect him to the teeth.
Never went anywhere else to ask a question or to blast him.
And never will.Gus 802... Appreciate your sincerity.
Hopefully you will learn to appreciate mine as well.
Not trying to be a d*ck...
Well, I've just never seen it carried over into the LNDT since I've been coming here. I advise that you reconsider bringing that up here now.
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Kronocide Wed, May 27, 2009 11:53:12pm |
re: #39 pink freud
Oh.... jealous. I'm a jambalaya junkie.
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gmsc Wed, May 27, 2009 11:54:15pm |
re: #42 BigPapa
01001101011000010110101101100101001000000111001101 11010101110010011001010010000001111001011011110111 01010010000001100100011100100110100101101110011010 11001000000111100101101111011101010111001000100000 01001111011101100110000101101100011101000110100101 1011100110010100100001
Oh goody, a geek who is into binary AND A Christmas Story!
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 11:55:02pm |
re: #45 BigPapa
Oh.... jealous. I'm a jambalaya junkie.
I know the secret to keeping my nineteen year old son living at home. LOL
/the homemade red velvet cake for dessert didn't hurt either. I love to cook.
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Kronocide Wed, May 27, 2009 11:55:18pm |
re: #41 Sharmuta
"Flaccid GOP promises to not proceed with Scorched Earth policy on new SCOTUS nominee. Traffic on the 10's, weather on the 5's"
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Gearhead Wed, May 27, 2009 11:55:30pm |
re: #2 zombie
I still can't figure out if Emily Dickenson is a subtle genius or just a very unsophisticated poet.
That's what's great about poetry - sophistication is purely subjective, like creating a POS art project, but coming up with an explanation that your professor will believe.
And that's largely why I shy away from poetry (excepting Homer and Dante), esp public readings. It all sounds like "Pointy birds, O pointy, pointy. Anoint my head. Anointy -nointy."
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gtrs Wed, May 27, 2009 11:56:03pm |
re: #7 Racer X you forgot "mission accomplished"; oops, nevermind.........
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 11:56:23pm |
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 11:57:04pm |
re: #48 BigPapa
"Flaccid GOP promises to not proceed with Scorched Earth policy on new SCOTUS nominee. Traffic on the 10's, weather on the 5's"
I'm not sure why everyone is so worked up about Sotomayor. She's a moderate replacing a moderate. We'll be fine so long as constructionalist Justices stay on the bench.
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Kronocide Wed, May 27, 2009 11:57:39pm |
re: #47 pink freud
I remember a drive from Houston to N.O. A couple more trips to N.O.
I like the swamp, the food, the whole vibe of the place. I hope to go back.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 11:58:39pm |
Politics is the art of compromise. I'm not sure if folks understand that. Let me tell you- I got an earful from my political mentor for forgetting that recently.
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MrPaulRevere Wed, May 27, 2009 11:58:45pm |
re: #17 freedomplow
That's an odd comment to say the least, both in timing and content. If you have something to say to the man do it while he's watching
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 11:59:21pm |
re: #53 BigPapa
I remember a drive from Houston to N.O. A couple more trips to N.O.
I like the swamp, the food, the whole vibe of the place. I hope to go back.
We'd love to have you, Big Papa! That thirty mile drive across the Atchafalaya Swamp bridge at sundown is one of my favorite things.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:00:10am |
Today in History, May 28th:
Novelist Ian Fleming is born; Baseball's National League approves moving the Brooklyn Dodgers to Los Angeles ; Duke of Windsor dies.
Other notable May 28th events include:
585 BCE – A solar eclipse occurs, as predicted by Greek philosopher and scientist Thales, while Alyattes is battling Cyaxares in the Battle of the Eclipse, leading to a truce. This is one of the cardinal dates from which other dates can be calculated.
1774 – American Revolutionary War: the first Continental Congress convenes.
1930 – The Chrysler Building in New York City officially opens.
1936 – Alan Turing submits On Computable Numbers for publication.
1937 – The Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, California, is officially opened by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in Washington, DC, who pushes a button signaling the start of vehicle traffic over the span.
1937 – Neville Chamberlain becomes British Prime Minister.
1987 – A robot probe finds the wreckage of the USS Monitor near Cape Hatteras, North Carolina.
1996 – U.S. President Bill Clinton's former business partners in the Whitewater land deal, James McDougal and Susan McDougal, and Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker, are convicted of fraud.
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:01:23am |
re: #52 Sharmuta
I think she needs some hard questions asked of her, but she'll probably make it. The GOP is in not position to stop it anyway, especially since they're acting like they're in no position to stop it.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:01:59am |
re: #54 Sharmuta
Politics is the art of compromise. I'm not sure if folks understand that. Let me tell you- I got an earful from my political mentor for forgetting that recently.
Unfortunately, the people who most often say that think that you can compromise on principles, as well.
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zombie Thu, May 28, 2009 12:02:40am |
re: #18 realwest
Hey zombie - on the prior thread you posted:
"#264 zombie :: Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:09:51 pm
The Republican Party is now composed of eunuchs. They are whipped, beaten and submissive."
and I asked why you felt that way about Satamayor's nomination (that being the thread topic) but I guess you jumped over here before you saw that question.
Yes. About the resignation over the nomination. They're not even gonna try. Geez. They are running scared, is my guess. I think the "All conservatives are inherently racist" meme has worked and now the Republicans live in terror of having the "racist" label applied to them -- which the Democrats can (and do) apply at will. Whenever the whim strikes them, which is often. It's game over for the Republican Party conservatism, if so.
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pink freud Thu, May 28, 2009 12:02:54am |
re: #61 gmsc
Unfortunately, the people who most often say that think that you can compromise on principles, as well.
Oh! Get outta my head!
/my thoughts exactly
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MrPaulRevere Thu, May 28, 2009 12:03:59am |
re: #52 Sharmuta
I'm really loathe to get into labels, but she would be a predictable vote replacing another predictable vote. I don't see it as a big deal, and certainly not worth wasting precious political capital.
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:05:12am |
re: #58 Sharmuta
Don't look at me.
Maybe if you didn't have that mischievous smirk nobody would notice...
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zombie Thu, May 28, 2009 12:05:31am |
re: #30 gmsc
For Zombie:
I'm just curious as to how pure a Zombie you actually are!
;)
I "passed" on them all because I'm not interested in "movie"-style zombies. Just real ones, from Haiti, old-school. Sorry!
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:05:42am |
re: #60 BigPapa
I think she needs some hard questions asked of her, but she'll probably make it. The GOP is in not position to stop it anyway, especially since they're acting like they're in no position to stop it.
First- we're NOT in a position to stop it.
Second- she strikes me as a moderate. She's replacing a moderate. The balance remains the same. Are we really surprised 0bama would nominate someone we didn't like? Let us not kid ourselves here. Frankly- we're lucky she's a moderate.
Third- yes- I welcome tough questions for her. She's up for an important decision, and anyone in her position should be facing tough questions.
Fourth- Let us see what develops and be firm, but fair. I have concerns, but there is some decent rulings from her too. I think we'll be okay. Like I said- the court would remain balanced.
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Dancing along the light of day Thu, May 28, 2009 12:05:44am |
re: #54 Sharmuta
Miss Innocent arrives!
///////
We've been whacking about the Sotamayor nomination, on & on & on!
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freetoken Thu, May 28, 2009 12:07:30am |
re: #14 iceweasel
Yeah... nothing like arguing with how a person pronounces their own name to score points.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:07:51am |
re: #68 Floral Giraffe
Miss Innocent arrives!
///////We've been whacking about the Sotamayor nomination, on & on & on!
Yeah, could you imagine? Barack Obama picked a liberal candidate. Would've thunk it.
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Steffan Thu, May 28, 2009 12:08:03am |
re: #30 gmsc
For Zombie:
I'm just curious as to how pure a Zombie you actually are!
;)
I'm 80% dead.
Is this something I should worry about? Enquiring Minds Want To Know!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, May 28, 2009 12:09:11am |
re: #24 BigPapa
Politics : celebrate binary.
I was looking at this "Facebook" thing tonight and some people have a line in their profile where they can write their political affiliation. I hang out online with some fairly lib'url people and one of them had described themselves as a "Damned dirty liberal".
I gave some thought to what I might put in that same "political affiliation" section:
"Hang The Bastards"
"None Of The Above"
"If You're Not Angry You're Not Paying Attention"
"The Get Off My TV and Get Out Of My Wallet Party"
"Jeffersonian Smallholder"
"The Middle Class Which Refuses To Die"
"My Heroes Are All Dead Rich White Guys"
"Media Messiah Defier"
I prefer #4 so far.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, May 28, 2009 12:09:36am |
Isn't is a sad state of affairs when we refer to judges as liberals, moderates or conservatives? Judges are now de facto politicians and I don't like it one damn bit.
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freedomplow Thu, May 28, 2009 12:09:37am |
re: #44 Gus 802
Well, I've just never seen it carried over into the LNDT since I've been coming here. I advise that you reconsider bringing that up here now.
Thanks for the advise.
The world is so screwed up we are all trying to figure out what direction it should go.
I like that.
Space fascinates me. Everything else is way to simple.
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:11:57am |
re: #67 Sharmuta
I don't disagree at all. She will get confirmed, however, a point was made earlier that I read somewhere else: Much of the time, the game is about stance and the next nominee, especially the nominee that can take the balance out.
That is the best the GOP can do, is to make their case and stance known, and position for the next nominee. Be firm but fair, but don't go all in on this one because Sotomayor is not that bad. It could have been worse.
Some of her statements concern me (about her feelings about identity politics), but yes, I can't pick apart her judicial record. I'm still reading about the firefighter case but read that she came out on the right side of it, but I'm not done on that.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:12:59am |
re: #77 freedomplow
Thanks for the advise.
The world is so screwed up we are all trying to figure out what direction it should go.
I like that.
Space fascinates me. Everything else is way to simple.
OK True enough. I love space. Space exploration. The last shuttle mission reminded me of the wonder that lies beyond Earth. The effort that is involved reminds us that when we work together with science and technology that there are other goals more important than politics. To advance humankind for the betterment of mankind.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:13:27am |
re: #66 zombie
I "passed" on them all because I'm not interested in "movie"-style zombies. Just real ones, from Haiti, old-school. Sorry!
No need to apologize!
You should check a few zombie movies out, however . . .
;)
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:15:31am |
re: #76 MrPaulRevere
Isn't is a sad state of affairs when we refer to judges as liberals, moderates or conservatives? Judges are now de facto politicians and I don't like it one damn bit.
It's the two visions, Archie. They have different underlying differences in the very way they view the law. In the case of equality and the law, the constrained vision sees it as equality of the process, while for the unconstrained it is the equality of outcome.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 12:16:04am |
re: #70 freetoken
Yeah... nothing like arguing with how a person pronounces their own name to score points.
It's just so crazy. Is it any wonder that the GOP gets perceived as racist and out-of-touch when this is the kind of criticism that is made?
In other craziness, some are wondering if her love of Puerto Rican food will influence how she votes...
[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
And this is the state of our political discourse today. Mindboggling.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, May 28, 2009 12:16:09am |
I'm listening to a replay of Limbaugh, he is completely unhinged over Sotomayor.
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:19:12am |
re: #78 BigPapa
She sided with pro-lifers twice- one on a funding issue I think is important. She also said she wouldn't read any rights into the Constitution. We'll see how it turns out, I guess.
And also- elections have consequences. Where's Mandy when we need her?
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 12:20:02am |
re: #83 MrPaulRevere
I'm listening to a replay of Limbaugh, he is completely unhinged over Sotomayor.
I read some of the transcript. He's totally losing it.
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:20:35am |
I just hate people who pronounce their last name perfectly. It's like they're saying "I'm awesome because my name is awesome, listen to how awesome it is.'
I fricken hate those people.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 12:21:52am |
re: #87 BigPapa
I just hate people who pronounce their last name perfectly. It's like they're saying "I'm awesome because my name is awesome, listen to how awesome it is.'
I fricken hate those people.
They probably eat fancy food like Dijon mustard, too. Purge them from the party!
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MrPaulRevere Thu, May 28, 2009 12:22:28am |
Todays reading assignment: Reagan in Opposition... [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...] ...money quote: Second, his tone was unfailingly gracious and civil, and focused on issues, not men. He did not oppose for the sake of opposing. He criticized Carter's ideas, but seldom the man, and he almost never uttered the president's name. "A typical Reagan column was almost never partisan or even explicitly conservative," wrote John O'Sullivan.
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 12:22:58am |
re: #81 Sharmuta
It's the two visions, Archie. They have different underlying differences in the very way they view the law. In the case of equality and the law, the constrained vision sees it as equality of the process, while for the unconstrained it is the equality of outcome.
How very strange. Mah post wuz itted by teh intercheez.
I jusr received that book, having ordered it based upon your recommendation. I haven't even opened it yet. Been unbelievably busy.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:23:26am |
re: #87 BigPapa
I just hate people who pronounce their last name perfectly. It's like they're saying "I'm awesome because my name is awesome, listen to how awesome it is.'
I fricken hate those people.
I have a last name that can be pronounced perfectly. I know what you mean. It's a minor detail but it's something that I do notice. Sort of like how the BBC will only pronounce Chile in the perfect accent yet pronounce the other South American countries with an Anglo accent(o).
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 12:24:12am |
re: #89 iceweasel
They probably eat fancy food like Dijon mustard, too. Purge them from the party!
Oddly enough, my avatar is also the man who famously asked "Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?"
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:24:14am |
re: #87 BigPapa
I just hate people who pronounce their last name perfectly. It's like they're saying "I'm awesome because my name is awesome, listen to how awesome it is.'
I fricken hate those people.
Such as . . . ?
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 12:24:42am |
re: #54 Sharmuta
Politics is the art of compromise. I'm not sure if folks understand that. Let me tell you- I got an earful from my political mentor for forgetting that recently.
There are two parts to politics. One part is compromise. Its that part that allows us to at least get some of what we want. The other part, the part that is too oft forgot, is persuasion. Its the part that is about making the case for why we should get all of what we want so that we can at least get some of what we want when it comes to making compromises.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:25:02am |
re: #85 Sharmuta
She sided with pro-lifers twice- one on a funding issue I think is important. She also said she wouldn't read any rights into the Constitution. We'll see how it turns out, I guess.
And also- elections have consequences. Where's Mandy when we need her?
Twice? I thought it was only once.
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freedomplow Thu, May 28, 2009 12:26:59am |
re: #79 Gus 802
OK True enough. I love space. Space exploration. The last shuttle mission reminded me of the wonder that lies beyond Earth. The effort that is involved reminds us that when we work together with science and technology that there are other goals more important than politics. To advance humankind for the betterment of mankind.
I really like the part where nobody has any idea how big the universe is.
Our solar system is a tiny little thing yet people have no concept of how vast everything else is.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:27:08am |
re: #98 Sharmuta
And, as an aside, it was Reagan who nominated one of the more moderate Justices in O'Connor. It's not alway a good indicator of the Justice based on the president.re: #92 haakondahl
{haak}
Sotomayor wouldn't even be in the spotlight if it wasn't for GHW Bush. I know, I know. People don't want to hear that.
/This is not an endorsement but still.
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 12:28:02am |
re: #99 freedomplow
I really like the part where nobody has any idea how big the universe is.
Our solar system is a tiny little thing yet people have no concept of how vast everything else is.
Pardon me, do you have any dark matter?
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 12:28:26am |
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 12:29:53am |
re: #102 iceweasel
Good point. And Bush nominated Souter, after all.
Well, John Sununu anyway.
[ahem]
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MrPaulRevere Thu, May 28, 2009 12:30:40am |
Second money quote from the above article..."Third, Reagan was an optimist, who seized the banner of hope on behalf of his party and turned its eyes to the future, and away from the past. Traditionally, conservatism in America was a cranky and negative movement, chronically angry, and focused on what it opposed". I find it endlessly fascinating that men like Limbaugh and Hannity who profess to idolize Reagan don't really understand him.
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:30:52am |
re: #93 Gus 802
I think some people are noticing something I've noticed before. When I lived in the Bay Area, most newscasters would speak pretty Anglo but when any Mexican/Latin names happened they would suddenly get perfect Mexican/Latin pronunciation. It was just quirky, got a laugh from it. Just the news stations trying to make everybody happy.
If Sotomayor (or Sotomay-yore) wants to pronounce her name a very particular way, that's fine for a pinkocommietardleftistwackjob, er, it's not an issue. It's irrelevant. But let's talk about it so we look like the evil racists we are! BWAHAHAHAHA!
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:32:31am |
re: #97 Gus 802
Twice. I can't find the link at the moment, but there was another case where she sided with pro-life protesters.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:32:42am |
re: #99 freedomplow
I really like the part where nobody has any idea how big the universe is.
Our solar system is a tiny little thing yet people have no concept of how vast everything else is.
I'm looking forward to the new images from Hubble. The Webb telescope should provide even better images. I have a grasp of the vastness of space in my mind. That's something I find inspiring in life and how we are on this blue Earth in the midst of this universe and how lucky we are.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:32:53am |
re: #87 BigPapa
I just hate people who pronounce their last name perfectly. It's like they're saying "I'm awesome because my name is awesome, listen to how awesome it is.'
I fricken hate those people.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 12:35:14am |
re: #103 haakondahl
Well, John Sununu anyway.
[ahem]
wikipedia: The Wall Street Journal described the events leading up to the appointment of the "liberal jurist" in a 2000 editorial, saying Rudman in his "Yankee Republican liberalism" took "pride in recounting how he sold Mr. Souter to gullible White House chief of staff John Sununu as a confirmable conservative. Then they both sold the judge to President Bush, who wanted above all else to avoid a confirmation battle."
You know, I did not know that. Thanks!
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:36:48am |
re: #105 BigPapa
I think some people are noticing something I've noticed before. When I lived in the Bay Area, most newscasters would speak pretty Anglo but when any Mexican/Latin names happened they would suddenly get perfect Mexican/Latin pronunciation. It was just quirky, got a laugh from it. Just the news stations trying to make everybody happy.
If Sotomayor (or Sotomay-yore) wants to pronounce her name a very particular way, that's fine
for a pinkocommietardleftistwackjob, er, it's not an issue. It's irrelevant. But let's talk about it so we look like the evil racists we are! BWAHAHAHAHA!
I know what you mean. I was born Gustavo. I went to Gustav and then settled with Gus. The reason? I was a kid when I became a citizen and thought it would be easier to sign Gus with just three letters. Seriously. It really is irrelevant. I still have a mafioso name. ;)
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:37:16am |
re: #107 Gus 802
I'm looking forward to the new images from Hubble. The Webb telescope should provide even better images. I have a grasp of the vastness of space in my mind. That's something I find inspiring in life and how we are on this blue Earth in the midst of this universe and how lucky we are.
Does this help?
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:40:19am |
re: #108 gmsc
LOL Good one. Now that I live in HI, I love to watch some of the local newscasters struggle with difficult Hawaiian names or words. Nothing like a haole struggling to over speak Hawaiian. Most of the time they nail it, especially if they've lived here for a while. I'm not ready for prime time (smirk)
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:42:36am |
re: #96 Syrah
There are two parts to politics. One part is compromise. Its that part that allows us to at least get some of what we want. The other part, the part that is too oft forgot, is persuasion. Its the part that is about making the case for why we should get all of what we want so that we can at least get some of what we want when it comes to making compromises.
You're so right, I don't even know what to add. It's worth repeating.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:43:16am |
re: #106 Sharmuta
Twice. I can't find the link at the moment, but there was another case where she sided with pro-life protesters.
One is Center for Reproductive Law and Policy vs. Bush.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:46:35am |
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:47:57am |
re: #115 Gus 802
One is Center for Reproductive Law and Policy vs. Bush.
Amnesty America v. Town of West Hartford
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sandbox Thu, May 28, 2009 12:48:03am |
It occcurred to me the reason North Korea is acting like it wants a war with South Korea and the US is because its leaders really do want a war. Even though we may not understand the motivation.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:48:17am |
re: #116 Gus 802
I recognize that voice.
I've even seen the credits, and I still don't know who Phillip Morrison is. At first, I thought the narrator was Andy Rooney.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:49:52am |
re: #117 Sharmuta
Amnesty America v. Town of West Hartford
When Sotomayor Ruled In Favor of Anti-Abortion Protesters
AMNESTY AMERICA V WEST HARTFORD
Good example. You never know what you're going to get.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, May 28, 2009 12:49:59am |
re: #118 sandbox
Maybe Jimmy Carter can help sort it out //
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:51:54am |
re: #119 gmsc
I've even seen the credits, and I still don't know who Phillip Morrison is. At first, I thought the narrator was Andy Rooney.
Almost!
This guy...
He passed away in 2005.
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Kronocide Thu, May 28, 2009 12:51:57am |
re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor
I'm 'New Honco Party.' Have had it for a few months. I wonder if it can be searched?
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freetoken Thu, May 28, 2009 12:52:43am |
re: #82 iceweasel
And this is the state of our political discourse today. Mindboggling.
Ref. the spinoff link I added, which has to do with that subject but in the areas of science.
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Gus Thu, May 28, 2009 12:53:03am |
re: #123 Sharmuta
Fact checking isn't dead yet.
Not at all. As much as it "hurts" I think it does a lot of good. ;)
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 12:53:56am |
re: #122 Gus 802
Almost!
This guy...
[Link: www.lanl.gov...]
He passed away in 2005.
I guess I never saw his Ring of Truth series. From what I see, that's what many people think of when they think of Phillip Morrison.
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Sharmuta Thu, May 28, 2009 12:56:04am |
All the star talk made me link a space story in the spinoffs. I ♥ Space.
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freetoken Thu, May 28, 2009 1:07:30am |
'nite you sleepy heads!
/some of us still have work to do...
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 1:07:52am |
re: #114 Sharmuta
I think it goes to the heart of the frustration that many are feeling about the Republican Party, i.e. the party of eunuchs.
As important as it is to not look like a bunch of kooks, it is just as important to not look like a bunch of wussies either.
The Republican Party needs to offer a credible opposition to Obama, his polices and his appointees. However, the party must not emulate James Carville or Markos Moulitsas in doing so. (I think Rush is erring in that direction.)
It is not going to be easy for Republicans over the next eight years.
We lost the last Presidential Election fair and square.
We deserved to lose.
Our candidate was week and our message was muddled. If we continue on that path, the Republican party will be out of power for far longer than just two presidential terms. It may in fact never recover. At the same time, if we try to compensate by being just as nasty and vicious as the Dem/left has been over the last three decades, we will lose the reason for winning.
It will be rough sailing for a time.
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sandbox Thu, May 28, 2009 1:17:17am |
One possible win for Republicans is NJ Gov. The primary is coming up this Tuesday and former US Attorney Chris Christie will likely be the winner. Christie is ahead of Gov. Corzine in the general election polls. Corzine's re-election slogan should be: Vote for me so I can continue to manage New Jersey's decline.
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 1:20:28am |
re: #92 haakondahl
How very strange. Mah post wuz itted by teh intercheez.
I jusr received that book, having ordered it based upon your recommendation. I haven't even opened it yet. Been unbelievably busy.
It is not an easy read, but it is well worth the effort that it will require. It is best read slow. He covers a great deal.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, May 28, 2009 1:23:06am |
Wonder what happens to California after the Governator. My guess is a tax-and-spend liberal Republican will be replaced by a tax-and-spend liberal democrat.
But then again, the outcome of prop 8 really surprised me. I think that was the Hispanic demographic coming into play....
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 1:25:43am |
One of the stranger stories of the day . . .
A celebrity was sitting in a bar enjoying her drink. A busload of tourists happened to stop by the bar, and many of them asked the celebrity for her autograph.
She flew into a rage, and began swearing at the seemingly-incessant autograph hounds.
Any guesses as to who this is?
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 1:26:14am |
re: #137 Fenway_Nation
Wonder what happens to California after the Governator. My guess is a tax-and-spend liberal Republican will be replaced by a tax-and-spend liberal democrat.
But then again, the outcome of prop 8 really surprised me. I think that was the Hispanic demographic coming into play....
Maybe Hispanics are all homophobes . . .
/////
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Fenway_Nation Thu, May 28, 2009 1:32:39am |
re: #139 gmsc
Alot of them are Catholic....and the church isn't too keen on that.
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 1:34:18am |
re: #139 gmsc
I've lived in the barrios of California. Hispanics are not what conservatives would call conservative, but the left makes a terrible mistake when they think that Hispanics are leftist.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 1:35:15am |
re: #140 Fenway_Nation
Alot of them are Catholic....and the church isn't too keen on that.
That, of course, I understand.
I thought it was amusing all the anger over proposition 8 turned towards the mormons, but apparently the liberals were afraid to appear racist by pointing fingers at hispanics/latinos/whatever they are this week.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 1:40:13am |
I think it would be interesting to do a poll.
Among the first questions would be: "Do you approve of fascism?"
Hidden among the later questions would be: "Do you approve of the federal government taking control of private businesses?"
I think the disparity of the poll results between the 2 questions would be quite telling.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 1:40:28am |
re: #142 gmsc
That, of course, I understand.
I thought it was amusing all the anger over proposition 8 turned towards the mormons, but apparently the liberals were afraid to appear racist by pointing fingers at hispanics/latinos/whatever they are this week.
I'm pretty sure I saw Mormons and Catholics both being blamed by my liberal brethern for Prop 8. Also Christians in general, as I believe a lot of money was being raised by fundamentalist churches in other states.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 1:43:31am |
re: #141 Syrah
I've lived in the barrios of California. Hispanics are not what conservatives would call conservative, but the left makes a terrible mistake when they think that Hispanics are leftist.
I don't think we do think that Hispanics are 'leftist', necessarily. I'm pretty sure there is a widespread recognition on the left that many Hispanics are what could be called social conservatives. They definitely are conservative on the subject of gay marriage, which I attribute as much to Catholicism as to their cultural ideal of machismo. It's not easy to be a gay Latino.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, May 28, 2009 1:47:34am |
The Muslimah's gone.....she's been replaced by a J-Date banner ad!
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Fenway_Nation Thu, May 28, 2009 1:49:32am |
re: #145 iceweasel
They definitely are conservative on the subject of gay marriage, which I attribute as much to Catholicism as to their cultural ideal of machismo.
Macho? Oh puh-lease.....how do you explain the affinity for chihuahuas?
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 1:50:58am |
re: #145 iceweasel
Ive seen it firsthand. Being a gay Mexican Latino is life threatening. I would attribute it more to the cultural Machismo than to Catholicism.
It is a cultural that is steeped in a weird ethnic supremacism that is at odds with American politics both left and right.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, May 28, 2009 1:56:38am |
Obama Advises Maloofs on NBA Draft
Maybe he can step the fuck down and go into GMing?
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 1:56:54am |
re: #150 Fenway_Nation
Aren't we all?
We must be – 1 mention of fruitcup stopped the thread!
(As well it should!)
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 1:58:28am |
re: #151 TheMatrix31
Obama Advises Maloofs on NBA Draft
Maybe he can step the fuck down and go into GMing?
He also suggested that, if the Maloofs don't follow his advice, they should be "exceedingly careful" with their team in the future.
////
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Fenway_Nation Thu, May 28, 2009 2:00:03am |
So now that the J-Date banner as has usurped the Muslimah banner ad, has the OIS issued a statement of condemnation yet?
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 2:01:07am |
re: #149 Syrah
Ive seen it firsthand. Being a gay Mexican Latino is life threatening. I would attribute it more to the cultural Machismo than to Catholicism.
Updinged and quoted for truth.
It is a cultural that is steeped in a weird ethnic supremacism that is at odds with American politics both left and right.
I'm a little uncomfortable with the term "weird ethnic supremacism"--maybe I don't know what you mean. It's not something I have noticed amongst the Latinos I know.
I would agree though that it's the machismo factor that makes the real difference when it comes to the opposition to gay marriage (and the homophobia--you're right, it's lifethreatening), and I'd also agree that the Hispanic community doesn't neatly line up as either left or right.
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pink freud Thu, May 28, 2009 2:02:38am |
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everyone!
Fruitcup is on the buffet! ---------------------->
/I cannot bear to see it not served!
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 2:02:38am |
re: #156 gmsc
Uh oh, littleoldlady has overslept!
...or is using the new computer, and still doesn't have the hang of it yet!
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 2:02:53am |
re: #147 Fenway_Nation
Macho? Oh puh-lease.....how do you explain the affinity for chihuahuas?
Haha-- ok, had to laugh. My best friend, who is a straight male who works out constantly, owns two chihuahuas. I don't think he quite understands how silly he looks walking them.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 2:02:59am |
re: #157 pink freud
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everyone!
Fruitcup is on the buffet! ---------------------->
/I cannot bear to see it not served!
pink lady?
;)
Thanks!
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 2:03:32am |
re: #157 pink freud
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everyone!
Fruitcup is on the buffet! ---------------------->
/I cannot bear to see it not served!
If red fruitcup is dangerous – what is pink fruitcup?
;)
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pink freud Thu, May 28, 2009 2:03:53am |
re: #158 gmsc
Red swung by early on up in the thread and said to help ourselves, it was in the fridge ...that LittleOldLady was having computerr problems.
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 2:04:19am |
We should give littleoldlday a break tonight. She managed to serve fruitcup at 2 on the nose last night! (down to the second, no less!)
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Karridine Thu, May 28, 2009 2:04:58am |
re: #134 Syrah
Is it permissible, now, to question the efficacy or the unifying capacity of a Two-Party System any more?
Surely after watching the nomination of a flawed, but decent man by One Party and a media-drool cypher by Another Party (and the gaming of the system that he foisted on America, bussing in supporters during caucuses, chasing away supporters from other candidates, hiring ACORN, hiding every diploma, transcript and certificate he'd ever *allegedly* earned in his life), SURELY now is a good time to consider serious reshaping of these collective-decision-making methods, Syrah...
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gmsc Thu, May 28, 2009 2:05:00am |
re: #163 pink freud
Red swung by early on up in the thread and said to help ourselves, it was in the fridge ...that LittleOldLady was having computerr problems.
Red always says it's in the fridge. The problem is, it's usually his fridge!
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pink freud Thu, May 28, 2009 2:05:05am |
re: #161 gmsc
If red fruitcup is dangerous – what is pink fruitcup?
;)
LOL! Nice, and sweet, gmsc ...with a cajun twist.
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pink freud Thu, May 28, 2009 2:06:08am |
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 2:07:36am |
re: #165 Karridine
Is it permissible, now, to question the efficacy or the unifying capacity of a Two-Party System any more?
Surely after watching the nomination of a flawed, but decent man by One Party and a media-drool cypher by Another Party (and the gaming of the system that he foisted on America, bussing in supporters during caucuses, chasing away supporters from other candidates, hiring ACORN, hiding every diploma, transcript and certificate he'd ever *allegedly* earned in his life), SURELY now is a good time to consider serious reshaping of these collective-decision-making methods, Syrah...
Not only is it permissible, it is mandatory.
We are at a precipice.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 2:10:11am |
re: #162 Syrah
See Aztlan.
Fair enough--but just because some Chicanos may have an affinity for an idea of racial superiority, that doesn't mean all Latinos do.
I took you to be saying that it was something endemic to Latino or Hispanic culture, in the way that machismo is.
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Karridine Thu, May 28, 2009 2:10:20am |
re: #171 Syrah
I know it is uncomfortable, but being a second-class citizen much of the time can't be any less uncomfortable, whether one is Demoblican or Republicrat...
Two heads on the same long-tailed body, playing Pig in the Trough and Leave It To Gummint!
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 2:13:09am |
re: #173 iceweasel
It is anecdotal.
I lived in it.
I don't know how to explain it further. It is real. It is serious. It is not to be discounted too lightly.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 2:17:12am |
re: #179 Syrah
It is anecdotal.
I lived in it.
I don't know how to explain it further. It is real. It is serious. It is not to be discounted too lightly.
Oh I will definitely take your word for it--I'm not asking for some scientific proof--I was just curious about your reasons for saying this. It sounds like you know more than I do about it. If it's anecdotal and personal and you don't want to get into it I totally understand. I didn't mean to pry or make you feel put on the spot. Apologies if I made you feel that way!
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 2:21:48am |
re: #182 iceweasel
No need for apologies.
Live the life. You will see what I mean. You can not miss it if you are being attentive.
Maybe it is unfair for me to bring it up. I have been in its midst. I could not escape it. It was the world around me.
It is very real.
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Karridine Thu, May 28, 2009 2:25:54am |
re: #181 Syrah
Syrah, for over a hundred years from America's struggle for self-dependence, independence, a multi-partite system WORKED well, in main because Americans shared 1/ a deep respect for The Rules; 2/ an unabashed LOVE for America and 3/ the near-universal willingness to re-unite, AS Americans, after every election.
Furthermore, human frailties were usually covered up in time and by time, and most people shared moral values based on Judeo-Christian faith.
Today, however, we see how those values, characteristics and motives are no longer shared, universal or even common.
We're entering an age of accountability and we won't be able to hide the shadows much longer in this gathering light.
But DISUNITY (a two-part(y) system) is killing our way of life, stifling initiative, destroying mores, tearing down community and delivering rampant and naked materialism in stead, a poisonous disease indeed, and one from which we seem to have Acquired an Immune Deficiency Syndrome at the national level, Syrah
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Fenway_Nation Thu, May 28, 2009 2:30:41am |
Time for me to turn in, lizards....
g'nite, all!
Weet dreams.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 2:31:49am |
re: #183 Syrah
No need for apologies.
Live the life. You will see what I mean. You can not miss it if you are being attentive.
Maybe it is unfair for me to bring it up. I have been in its midst. I could not escape it. It was the world around me.
It is very real.
I definitely don't think it's unfair for you to bring it up, most especially when you have direct personal experience which others (like me) lack. I just wish I could understand.
As for 'live the life'-- I've lived in Hispanic communities and I've dated a few Latinos, but none of that can make me part of the community for real--I'm not Latina.
I'm completely open to what you're saying and to the idea that I was just oblivious, (I certainly can be at times) which is why I was asking. I can easily believe that I missed something. Thanks.
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 2:33:27am |
re: #184 Karridine
Syrah, for over a hundred years from America's struggle for self-dependence, independence, a multi-partite system WORKED well, in main because Americans shared 1/ a deep respect for The Rules; 2/ an unabashed LOVE for America and 3/ the near-universal willingness to re-unite, AS Americans, after every election.
Furthermore, human frailties were usually covered up in time and by time, and most people shared moral values based on Judeo-Christian faith.
Today, however, we see how those values, characteristics and motives are no longer shared, universal or even common.
We're entering an age of accountability and we won't be able to hide the shadows much longer in this gathering light.
But DISUNITY (a two-part(y) system) is killing our way of life, stifling initiative, destroying mores, tearing down community and delivering rampant and naked materialism in stead, a poisonous disease indeed, and one from which we seem to have Acquired an Immune Deficiency Syndrome at the national level, Syrah
I don't know were to go with this but to say that I am in agreement.
The centrifugal forces are becoming insurmountable.
At times, I find myself fearing for the worst.
Like Peter the Great, we have the momentum of history and culture working against our best understanding and intentions. Not much different than watching a train wreck.
Push and nudge, push and nudge, not much else to do.
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 2:49:57am |
re: #165 Karridine
Is it permissible, now, to question the efficacy or the unifying capacity of a Two-Party System any more?
Surely after watching the nomination of a flawed, but decent man by One Party and a media-drool cypher by Another Party (and the gaming of the system that he foisted on America, bussing in supporters during caucuses, chasing away supporters from other candidates, hiring ACORN, hiding every diploma, transcript and certificate he'd ever *allegedly* earned in his life), SURELY now is a good time to consider serious reshaping of these collective-decision-making methods, Syrah...
The system is not broken and does not need fixing. Several different types of shenanigans are being tolerated to the detriment of our system of government--fix that.
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 2:53:28am |
re: #188 Syrah
Hmm...
Computer glitch ate my post.
Life is good.
It is a blessing to be alive.
We should thank God everyday for the blessing both great and small that we enjoy each and every day. The trick to happiness is in noticing the small blessings, the pure wind, the beauty of a flower, the clear blue sky. The mirror smooth water beneath the prow of the boat as you glide along. . . .
It is good to enjoy God's blessings.
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Karridine Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:02am |
re: #186 iceweasel
I don't know were to go with this but to say that I am in agreement.The centrifugal forces are becoming insurmountable.
At times, I find myself fearing for the worst.
Syrah, there IS a rational solution, flowing from the Judeo-Christian basis for all that's good in the West... but Charles has asked me not to discuss it here.
Haakondahl, I really WANT to believe America's social-legal system is up to the tasks of keeping us united as Americans, but after the 8 years of vitriol under Bush (by one half the country) and the disunity shown by ANOTHER half of the country ("I want Obama to fail.") I believe there is something fundamentally MISSING or dysfunctional... broken may not be the right descriptor, but the American system isn't just being abused, and that abuse tolerated and abetted by both Demoblicans AND Republicrats, the SYSTEM itself (from the Constitution downward) is being attacked by monied, determined factions.
I don't want to 'fix' that, but rather lift up a system that has shown itself far superior to this once-wonderful American Way...
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 3:17:02am |
re: #191 Karridine
I understand.
We are not exactly on the same page, but I know were you are coming from. We are close enough to be able to see in similar directions. He did not ask me as directly as he as asked you to not proselytize on certain maters but I took his request to apply to me on such things as much as they did to you.
This is his house. We, like good guest, accept his requests.
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Syrah Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:31am |
Well, . . .
That's it fellow lizards.
I am in clear and unarguable violation of the Iron Fist rule.
Good night to you all.
May you all find the moment to see and notice the small blessings that God gives you each and every day. It is good to be alive. Share the joy with someone that you know.
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theheat Thu, May 28, 2009 3:35:56am |
Interesting article from World NeutDaily: Brain Worms.
Yup, brain worms. Of course, under related articles you have the following titles:
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Anyone else see a pattern here?
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Fearless Fred Thu, May 28, 2009 3:40:41am |
re: #191 Karridine
Syrah, there IS a rational solution, flowing from the Judeo-Christian basis for all that's good in the West... but Charles has asked me not to discuss it here.
Haakondahl, I really WANT to believe America's social-legal system is up to the tasks of keeping us united as Americans, but after the 8 years of vitriol under Bush (by one half the country) and the disunity shown by ANOTHER half of the country ("I want Obama to fail.") I believe there is something fundamentally MISSING or dysfunctional... broken may not be the right descriptor, but the American system isn't just being abused, and that abuse tolerated and abetted by both Demoblicans AND Republicrats, the SYSTEM itself (from the Constitution downward) is being attacked by monied, determined factions.
I don't want to 'fix' that, but rather lift up a system that has shown itself far superior to this once-wonderful American Way...
What system do you mean?
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:54am |
re: #194 theheat
Interesting article from World N
eutDaily: Brain Worms.Anyone else see a pattern here?
Earning the name WingNut Daily..uh, daily.
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theheat Thu, May 28, 2009 3:45:59am |
re: #196 iceweasel
Clearly, you haven't heeded their warnings.
Run, we're all in danger! Illegal immigrant brain worms!
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daledog Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:15am |
Charles,
A few days ago you had a post about Mancow Mueller undergoing waterboarding. You gave his stunt some publicity. Did you know that he shared the stage with Eric Odom at the Chicago Tea Party this past April?
WE ARE ALL PAULIANS NOW!
/logic
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Fearless Fred Thu, May 28, 2009 3:57:53am |
re: #184 Karridine
Syrah, for over a hundred years from America's struggle for self-dependence, independence, a multi-partite system WORKED well, in main because Americans shared 1/ a deep respect for The Rules; 2/ an unabashed LOVE for America and 3/ the near-universal willingness to re-unite, AS Americans, after every election.
Furthermore, human frailties were usually covered up in time and by time, and most people shared moral values based on Judeo-Christian faith.
Today, however, we see how those values, characteristics and motives are no longer shared, universal or even common.
We're entering an age of accountability and we won't be able to hide the shadows much longer in this gathering light.
But DISUNITY (a two-part(y) system) is killing our way of life, stifling initiative, destroying mores, tearing down community and delivering rampant and naked materialism in stead, a poisonous disease indeed, and one from which we seem to have Acquired an Immune Deficiency Syndrome at the national level, Syrah
Disunity won't kill our way of life, but socialism might.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 4:13:57am |
re: #197 theheat
I LOVE THAT.
In today's other undead news, funny misstatement of the day:
""Housing potential terrorists in Montana is not good for our state," Max Baucus, the state's senior Democratic senator, wrote to Smith. "These people stop at nothing. Their primary goal in life, and death, is to destroy America." "
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
I understand what he means to say, but it sounds like he's saying the zombie terrorist menace needs to be dealt with. Hee.
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:18am |
re: #191 Karridine
Syrah, there IS a rational solution, flowing from the Judeo-Christian basis for all that's good in the West... but Charles has asked me not to discuss it here.
Haakondahl, I really WANT to believe America's social-legal system is up to the tasks of keeping us united as Americans, but after the 8 years of vitriol under Bush (by one half the country) and the disunity shown by ANOTHER half of the country ("I want Obama to fail.") I believe there is something fundamentally MISSING or dysfunctional... broken may not be the right descriptor, but the American system isn't just being abused, and that abuse tolerated and abetted by both Demoblicans AND Republicrats, the SYSTEM itself (from the Constitution downward) is being attacked by monied, determined factions.
I don't want to 'fix' that, but rather lift up a system that has shown itself far superior to this once-wonderful American Way...
Without going into specifics, of course, any system of government which depends upon a change in the nature of mankind is doomed to fail, and can only be prolonged through totalitarianism, and it will still fail.
The road to Hell, and all.
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3 wood Thu, May 28, 2009 4:28:49am |
Good morning.
Look for the market to open on the upside this morning. It now is inevitable that GM will file bankruptcy and you can kiss goodbye the billions we have "loaned" them over the past 6 months or so.
Inflation continues to gain steam as the 10 year treasury yield is now up to 3.76%.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 4:35:55am |
re: #203 3 wood
Morning 3 wood, but what of this talk about the recession being nearly at its end?
Treasury receipts down 34%, Treasury selling off bonds which may raise interest rates, thoughts of a national sales tax, certainly doesn't seem to buttress that.
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haakondahl Thu, May 28, 2009 4:38:01am |
re: #204 rightside
Morning 3 wood, but what of this talk about the recession being nearly at its end?
Technically, when the depression starts, the recessions *is* over.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 28, 2009 4:38:05am |
re: #203 3 wood
Good morning.
Look for the market to open on the upside this morning. It now is inevitable that GM will file bankruptcy and you can kiss goodbye the billions we have "loaned" them over the past 6 months or so.Inflation continues to gain steam as the 10 year treasury yield is now up to 3.76%.
When do the pundits expect inflation to get high enough to force mortgage and other longer-term loan rates to rise significantly?
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3 wood Thu, May 28, 2009 4:41:18am |
I feel another Obama apology about America coming:
Abbas to Meet Obama, Push Pan-Arab Peace
WASHINGTON -- The Palestinian president will be pushing President Barack Obama on Thursday to facilitate peace with Israel through a larger solution to the Middle East conflict.Top Palestinian officials traveling with President Mahmoud Abbas said he was working to repackage a 2002 Saudi Arabian plan that called for exchange of Arab land occupied by Israel in the 1967 war for normalized relations with Arab countries.
Obama's meeting with Abbas is the third of four key sessions the administration had planned as the president tries to reinvigorate the push for Middle East peace, an accord that has eluded American leaders, the Israelis and their Arab neighbors for more than a half-century.
I fully expect Obama to sell out Israel as fast as he can.
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herbieham Thu, May 28, 2009 4:43:21am |
Evening from Aussie land
OK -I had a thought about the Korea stuff.
can you yanks actually now afford a war now that Obama has basically pissed all your treasure up against the wall in what -6 months or so?
My thought is -the only way North Korea can be defeated if they go to war -is by a conventional -lots and lots and lots of boots on the ground war -no way air power alone is going to slow or stop that Army -there ain't enough bombs for a start.
And just how are the divisions going to be raised -and the arms paid for?
North Korea ain't dumb -Obama has left our only last great hope's flanks hopelessly exposed -he cant financially afford a fight after the "stimulus"
And I dread to think how Rudd is going to respond when he gets the call from Obama -
"hey ruddy old son, gee -the world is actually a hard place after all -got any spare troops?"
Fun times
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3 wood Thu, May 28, 2009 4:45:05am |
re: #204 rightside
Morning 3 wood, but what of this talk about the recession being nearly at its end?
The definition of "recession" got stretched by the MSM who was so eager to bash Bush, now it's more of a measure of how the public feels about things rather than hard econometric data.
The melt down has slowed down and that is getting misread as a turn around.
We need to see some GDP growth before the recession is over for 2 consecutive quarters.
That being said, the market tends to lead the econometric data by about 6 months. The recent upturn in the market is seen by some as an early indicator that the economy is improving.
I think the economy has stabilized a bit, but growth is a whole different matter.
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3 wood Thu, May 28, 2009 4:46:09am |
re: #206 Spare O'Lake
When do the pundits expect inflation to get high enough to force mortgage and other longer-term loan rates to rise significantly?
Mortgage rates are starting to inch up now. If you have a deal on the works I'd lock it in pronto.
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 5:06:40am |
re: #198 daledog
Charles,
A few days ago you had a post about Mancow Mueller undergoing waterboarding. You gave his stunt some publicity. Did you know that he shared the stage with Eric Odom at the Chicago Tea Party this past April?WE ARE ALL PAULIANS NOW!
/logic
Mancow isa Libretarian. BTW , good morning all.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 5:11:45am |
re: #207 3 wood
I think the US is trying to play the "our SOBs" game with Abbas, because as much as Abbas isn't any LGF'ers idea of a hero, Fatah and Hamas haven't exactly been best buddies as of late. With Hamas' parent group the Muslim Brotherhood being beaten back in Egypt, this could be a way to really make them feel the pinch.
/just sayin.
//also, good evenin.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 5:16:29am |
re: #215 laZardo
Maybe... but I don't trust Abbas or Fatah. I don't believe Fatah have reformed or renounced their goal of destroying Israel. In the long run, helping them does not help the US or Israel.
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 5:17:26am |
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Steffan Thu, May 28, 2009 5:19:55am |
re: #204 rightside
Morning 3 wood, but what of this talk about the recession being nearly at its end?
Treasury receipts down 34%, Treasury selling off bonds which may raise interest rates, thoughts of a national sales tax, certainly doesn't seem to buttress that.
I think you'll find that this is the Obamacentric MSM being eat-the-lotus-petal optimistic.
The eventual backlash is going to be fun to watch. I'm investing in popcorn.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 5:21:50am |
re: #206 Spare O'Lake
Good morning, fellow Canuck!
Have you noticed the absurd spectacle of the Liberals calling for Harper to fire his finance minister because the federal deficit is greater than previously expected? The truly funny part is, when Flaherty introduced his budget back in January the Liberals were calling for far more "stimulus" spending. If the Liberal had their way, we would have twice the defict by now.
So far the CBC, G&M, & Toronto Star haven't noticed the contradiction. I guess it's the "Iggy fever"!
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 5:22:36am |
re: #218 Steffan
The eventual backlash is going to be fun to watch. I'm investing in popcorn.
Good idea, popcorn may be worth more than the dollar soon.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 5:24:59am |
re: #220 Kenneth
Has Harper said anything about not being invited by Sarkozy?
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:20am |
From what I heard this morning the Republicans will subject Sotomayor to some scrutiny, rulings & maybe La Raza & then vote for her.
The Latina thing is a tough one.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:24am |
re: #216 Kenneth
Perhaps not, but the thought of the Israelis and Palestinians shaking hands and (ostensibly) getting along would rile up the Iranians...
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eon Thu, May 28, 2009 5:41:47am |
re: #209 3 wood
The definition of "recession" got stretched by the MSM who was so eager to bash Bush, now it's more of a measure of how the public feels about things rather than hard econometric data.
The melt down has slowed down and that is getting misread as a turn around.
We need to see some GDP growth before the recession is over for 2 consecutive quarters.
That being said, the market tends to lead the econometric data by about 6 months. The recent upturn in the market is seen by some as an early indicator that the economy is improving.
I think the economy has stabilized a bit, but growth is a whole different matter.
Good morning, Lizards.
My guess is that unlike pros on Wall Street, nobody at the MSM has ever even heard the term "dead cat bounce", much less being able to define it or recognizing one when they see it.
In a related matter, one of the major auto-parts suppliers went chapter 11 overnight due to the bottom falling out of their business. What makes this important is that their primary customer is Ford, not Chrysler or GM. This indicates that even Ford is experiencing weak enough sales that they could soon be in the same position as GM.
Speaking of General Government Motors, as of Monday the U.S. taxpayer will own 70% of GM, with the UAW owning 17.5% (they wanted 39%, but The One threw a tantrum, apparently). Bondholders have for the most part resisted The One's demands (bordering on threats) that they convert their bonds to stock; they are going to be paid about 10 cents on the dollar. (GM stock closed at $1.15/share yesterday, putting it in the same "junk bond" category as NYC municipal bonds under David Dinkins' administration in terms of value loss.) GM is now following Chrysler in wholesale closings of dealerships, which will make cars both scarcer and more expensive. (So much for The One saying he wanted them to "sell more cars"- yes, he lied again.)
I stand by my recent Estimate of the Situation that The One intends that Chrysler and GM be nothing more than "holding companies" to funnel TARP money to the UAW- in payment for "services rendered" in the 2008 election, and in expectation of further "services" in 2010, 2012, etc.
My guess is that Ford will soon be part of the mix, forming that most perfect of all syndicalist creatures- a troika. (Syndicalists love triplets like that, because they tend to remain paralyzed by the two-against-one factor, and thus are easily manipulated.)
Meanwhile, at the White House and UAW, they'll be playing "Let The Good Times Roll"- on our nickel.
/// I hope, but I'm afraid not.
cheers
eon
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 5:53:14am |
Teaching Kindergartners and elementary kids about homosexuality?!
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 5:53:39am |
re: #221 MandyManners
Has Harper said anything about not being invited by Sarkozy?
Not that I'm aware of. There are events in which Canadians will be involved & our troops honoured. The silly thing about this whole business is that it's the 65th anniversary of D-Day. 65 is not normally a big round number to make a special occassion out of, not like the 50th or even the 60th. When you think about it, this event is about giving Obama yet another heroic backdrop for his epic ego. Can't you just wait for His speech in which He talks about Himself and the special role D-Day has in His Life?
Looking at it that way, this is the 1st Anniversay of the D-Day Ceremony of the Obama Era. That's what it's all about.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 5:55:59am |
re: #225 eon
I am not studying Transportation Design to end up in Public Transport for the rest of my life.
/although I will give a pass to the local light rail for being a lot speedier than Manila traffic. Just wish the carriages were roomier.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 5:57:16am |
re: #228 Kenneth
Not that I'm aware of. There are events in which Canadians will be involved & our troops honoured. The silly thing about this whole business is that it's the 65th anniversary of D-Day. 65 is not normally a big round number to make a special occassion out of, not like the 50th or even the 60th. When you think about it, this event is about giving Obama yet another heroic backdrop for his epic ego. Can't you just wait for His speech in which He talks about Himself and the special role D-Day has in His Life?
Looking at it that way, this is the 1st Anniversay of the D-Day Ceremony of the Obama Era. That's what it's all about.
Sarkozy's buying into this?
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 5:57:58am |
Is there anything to this? Sounds like Chicago rules to me...
Dealergate: Mapping the Chrysler Closures
More Hope and Change...
** Earlier it was reported that the Obama Administration may have targeted GOP donors in deciding which Chrysler dealerships would have to close their doors.
** Last night it was discovered that a Big Dem Donor Group was allowed to keep all 6 Chrysler dealerships open.... And, their local competitors were eliminated by Obama's task force.
** The closings also tend to be in "Red" Counties where Obama lost.
** Even Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Fla) lost his Chrysler dealership in Florida and found out from a colleague on the House floor.Now this...
Doug Ross says tonight that, "The odds that these Chrysler closings occurred without partisan bias are roughly equivalent to the odds that Jean Claude Van-Damme will grab a Best Supporting Actor Oscar next year for a remake of Terms of Endearment."
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ConservatismNow! Thu, May 28, 2009 5:58:08am |
re: #227 MandyManners
Who's doing what to kindergardeners?
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 5:58:21am |
re: #229 rightside
Look for the meme "age appropriate"
I didn't hear it this morning. Also, parents will not be able to opt out unlike classes on sex education--they won't even know when the topic is being taught. It's mandatory.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:00:00am |
re: #231 MandyManners
Sarko is an egotist of the first order as well. Having Obama at his side helps him politically. France, Germany & the UK constantly compete to see who can be America's best buddy in Europe. When they're not busy pissing on America, that is.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:00:17am |
re: #233 ConservatismNow!
Who's doing what to kindergardeners?
The Alameda, California, school system will be teaching kids about 5-11 about homosexuals.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:01:03am |
re: #235 Kenneth
Sarko is an egotist of the first order as well. Having Obama at his side helps him politically. France, Germany & the UK constantly compete to see who can be America's best buddy in Europe. When they're not busy pissing on America, that is.
I thought Merkel isn't overly fond of FCBBHO.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:06:44am |
re: #237 MandyManners
Merkel and most of the European leaders were underwhelmed by Obama. For his part, Sarko had some rather cutting words about Obama when The One flounced across Euope a few weeks ago. Still, he knows a good photo-op when he sees one. "Obama on Omaha" will be carried live of French state TV.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 6:09:03am |
re: #236 MandyManners
Do you have a link (or did I miss it)?
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:12:06am |
re: #238 Kenneth
Merkel and most of the European leaders were underwhelmed by Obama. For his part, Sarko had some rather cutting words about Obama when The One flounced across Euope a few weeks ago. Still, he knows a good photo-op when he sees one. "Obama on Omaha" will be carried live of French state TV.
Remember Merke's refusal to let him show-boat in fron of the Brandenburg Gate during the campaign?
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:12:31am |
re: #239 UFO TOFU
Do you have a link (or did I miss it)?
It was on Fox. Hold on while I look for a link, please.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:13:27am |
Two parts of a single coordinated enterprise were taking shape on opposite sides of the world. The pieces of a giant puzzle were coming together with potentially lethal results as Caroline Glick explains:
North Korea is half a world away from Israel. Yet the nuclear test it conducted on Monday has the Israeli defense establishment up in arms and its Iranian nemesis smiling like the Cheshire Cat.
Nuclear weapons are the heart of the dispute between Obama and Netanyahu over the way the “peace process” should go forward. According to Glick, Obama believes that the establishment of a Palestinian state constitutes the unavoidable first step in the process in which the nukes will be dealt with somewhere along the way, maybe, while Netanyahu is seeking a guarantee of national survival before signing on to Washington’s plan... Netanyahu cannot beat Obama in a straight power play. To have any political chance he must throw Obama’s tempo off.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:15:10am |
re: #239 UFO TOFU
This is from 5/22 but, I saw the interview of one parent this morning.
The parents from the Unified School District in Alameda, a suburb of San Francisco and Oakland, say these issues are best learned at home and most definitely are not age-appropriate for elementary school children.
The parents are also angry that they will not be allowed to keep their children out of the classes.
SNIP
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:15:44am |
re: #244 Kenneth
Yup. Must have pissed him off royaly.
I bet he went around all day thinking "We're not amused".
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:16:45am |
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:17:57am |
The proposed curriculum will include a 45-minute LGBT lesson, once a year from kindergarten through fifth grade. The kindergartners will focus on the harms of teasing, while the fifth graders will study sexual orientation stereotypes.
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eon Thu, May 28, 2009 6:18:31am |
re: #230 laZardo
I am not studying Transportation Design to end up in Public Transport for the rest of my life.
/although I will give a pass to the local light rail for being a lot speedier than Manila traffic. Just wish the carriages were roomier.
According to a recent interview with Ray LaHood, The One's new SecTrans, his goal is to (exact quote) "coerce people out of their cars"- and onto public transportation.
Now, quite aside from the impracticality of mass transit "people movers" anywhere but high-density urban areas (compare and contrast; profit/loss ratios other than government funding, NYC transit system vs. San Francisco BART), since when is it the business of a representative government to "coerce" people out of engaging in a lawful activity? (I.e., moving around as they wish or need?)
During WW II auto production was suspended, and fuel was rationed, because the car plants were building military vehicles and every drop of fuel was needed to run them- because we were locked in a death struggle with an enemy which was determined to both rule the world, and kill large numbers of is peoples for "philosophical " reasons. (The bill came due at Nuremberg, among other places.) That was a reasonable response to a serious situation.
LaHood and The One are not making the argument that this is necessary for the GWOT (excuse me, I mean "Foreign Contingency Operations")- because The One doesn't believe we should be doing it. They want to do it because their "existential struggle" is with "global warming" (alias' "climate change"), which may or may not exist, and even if it does, may be a natural process we can have no noticeable effect on (lost in the signal to noise ratio, in effect). That, plus The One's self-admitted yearning to "change our culture"- apparently because he Just. Doesn't. Like. It.
My guess is, that while we are being shoveled onto crowded "people movers", LaHood will be keeping his limousine, complete with chauffeur and (probable) motorcycle escort.
Because, like The One, he is "of the elite'"- and is thus entitled to things forbidden to the "great unwashed"- i.e. the rest of us.
The fact that LaHood is a Republican is irrelevant. What matters is his ideology. And The One wouldn't have hired him if their respective worldviews didn't mesh.
They just don't mesh with reality, is all.
Have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 6:18:49am |
re: #228 Kenneth
I have a little different take on the event, just IMHO mind you. The event should be about those that fought there. Every year may be the very last that these VETs may see. The 65 may not be a significant number in of itself, but at the rate these VETs are dying every year forward should hold a greater meaning in my mind. It will come a year soon, that the VETs that sacrificed there will only be a memory. Lets keep it about them and make each additional year more special for them.
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:18:57am |
Mornin' all. From a warm, 72 now, going up to 90+ Greater Wenatchee Valley.
Yup. Gonna teach kindergardeners about gay penguins. They had some black Revrend on FNC, very unhappy camper.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 6:19:18am |
re: #247 Kenneth
Indeed. Why not just teach that ALL bullying is bad?
/because we wouldn't have a group of victims.
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ConservatismNow! Thu, May 28, 2009 6:19:25am |
re: #248 MandyManners
Here at the Death Camp for tolerance, intolerance vill not be tolerated.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 6:20:26am |
re: #241 rightside
re: #245 MandyManners
Thanks.
I heard on the news this morning that a socal high school elected it's first male prom queen. His statement to the reporter was "Now I really know who I am". So if he hadn't have won he would still be confused? Most high school seniors I come in contact with are pretty clueless about the world in general, much less themselves.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:20:54am |
My Word documents suddenly have been arranged into four categories: DSCF1230, My Scans, Notes and OneNote Notebooks. When I try to print something, I am told that there is no default printer and the print job is sent to OneNote Notebook 2007. I go to the Printer thingy to select a default printer but I cannot do so. HALP!
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:21:48am |
re: #253 ConservatismNow!
Here at the Death Camp for tolerance, intolerance vill not be tolerated.
I think that the thing that alarms me the most is this is mandatory.
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Athens Runaway Thu, May 28, 2009 6:21:48am |
Looks like I missed a hell of an argument last night. So the general consensus is that it's best for the GOP to roll over and let her through without a fight? And that Rush Limbaugh and 90% of the GOP is now of Luap Nor-caliber crazy?
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:22:22am |
re: #255 MandyManners
You need and old Bill Gates and a young Bill Gates. "The power of the chip compels you"!
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:22:31am |
re: #254 UFO TOFU
re: #245 MandyManners
Thanks.
I heard on the news this morning that a socal high school elected it's first male prom queen. His statement to the reporter was "Now I really know who I am". So if he hadn't have won he would still be confused? Most high school seniors I come in contact with are pretty clueless about the world in general, much less themselves.
It wasn't a joke?
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ConservatismNow! Thu, May 28, 2009 6:23:03am |
re: #256 MandyManners
I think that the thing that alarms me the most is this is mandatory.
And the parents won't even be told when it's being taught!
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:23:33am |
re: #258 pingjockey
You need and old Bill Gates and a young Bill Gates. "The power of the chip compels you"!
It's quite confusing. Until this happened, I'd never even *heard* of OneNote Notebook.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:24:05am |
re: #252 rightside
Some "victims" are more equal than others.
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SixDegrees Thu, May 28, 2009 6:24:09am |
re: #218 Steffan
I think you'll find that this is the Obamacentric MSM being eat-the-lotus-petal optimistic.
The eventual backlash is going to be fun to watch. I'm investing in popcorn.
The Fed will combat inflation by raising interest rates. If inflation gets very bad, rates could rise very high. Best place to be if that happens is probably CDs or money markets.
During the early 80s, thanks to stagflation, CD rates were well into double-digit territory for long term deposits. If that happens again, I'll be locking those rates in with as much cash as I can scrape together; I'm already starting to set aside dough so I have a pile of cash to work with, and I'll probably take some stocks off the table, too. The rate of return on CDs may suck relative to the inflation rate, but it's hard to beat double-digit rates with any other investment.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:25:10am |
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:25:19am |
re: #262 MandyManners
Me neither. Use bad language, threaten the 'puter with grevious bodily harm, if that doesn't work.....shoot it!
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:26:36am |
re: #265 MandyManners
Mine too. All three of them. Had to jump on them...Hard. Especially the two teens.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:26:37am |
re: #260 ConservatismNow!
And the parents won't even be told when it's being taught!
You can't give Sissy and Junior cell phones and tell them to call you when the lesson is being taught.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 6:27:02am |
re: #262 MandyManners
Did you recently install something into office, or office itself? When you open the control panel, and choose printers, does anything appear in the window? If not, or your printer does not appear, you will have to (re-)install it, using the supplied drivers.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:27:04am |
re: #266 pingjockey
Me neither. Use bad language, threaten the 'puter with grevious bodily harm, if that doesn't work.....shoot it!
SHOOT MY COMPUTER?!
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:27:21am |
re: #250 1SG(ret)
I agree with you 100%. D-Day is commemorated every year, and rightly so, but only on the big number years do top politicians get involved. For whatever reason, Obama & Sarko are planning a big event this year, but the Queen of England is pointedly not invited. This has pissed off millions of people in the British Commonwealth countries.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 6:27:55am |
re: #252 rightside
Heh, I remember that one episode of South Park where the-newly-Mrs. Garrison was teaching sex ed in kindergarten.
Srsly tho, the way people throw the (other) f-word around with their classmates, this was bound to happen sooner or later. Definitely happened a lot to me when I was in school. And this was supposed to be Manila's classiest private school, too.
/one reason why I don't believe money doesn't make a good school population...though you still paradoxically get what you pay for when it comes to education.
//also, hanging out on 4chan has reduced the impact of aforementioned slur to something to laugh with, not laugh at.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:28:21am |
re: #267 pingjockey
Mine too. All three of them. Had to jump on them...Hard. Especially the two teens.
I just gave it a pass because he's eight. I have no fear that he'll hate homosexuals because my sister is homosexual and they are bestest buds.
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:28:30am |
re: #271 MandyManners
Yep. Then you can help the economy by getting a new one! :)
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 6:29:16am |
Christians battle each other over evolution
The Discovery Institute – the Seattle-based headquarters of the intelligent design movement – has just launched a new website, Faith and Evolution, which asks, can one be a Christian and accept evolution? The answer, as far as the Discovery Institute is concerned, is a resounding: No.
The new website appears to be a response to the recent launch of the BioLogos Foundation, the brainchild of geneticist Francis Collins, former head of the Human Genome Project and rumoured Obama appointee-to-be for head of the National Institutes of Health. Along with "a team of scientists who believe in God" and some cash from the Templeton Foundation, Collins, an evangelical Christian who is also a staunch proponent of evolution, is on a crusade to convince believers that faith and science need not be at odds. He is promoting "theistic evolution" – the belief that God (the prayer-listening, proactive, per
sonal God of Christianity) chose to create life by way of evolution.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 6:29:56am |
re: #277 Killgore Trout
I botched my first post of the day. Feh.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:30:13am |
re: #265 MandyManners
"Gay" is a common school yard slang lately. It is not a homophobic slur, it means boring, wimpy, pointless or a flop. For example, Johnny attempts a stunt on his skate board and falls. His friends laugh and say, "Dude, that was soooo gay!"
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 6:31:00am |
re: #279 Killgore Trout
I botched my first post of the day. Feh.
Buckle up. It might just be one of those days.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 6:31:07am |
re: #280 Kenneth
It is not a homophobic slur, it means boring, wimpy, pointless or a flop. For example, Johnny attempts a stunt on his skate board and falls. His friends laugh and say, "Dude, that was soooo gay!"
i.e. not manly.
Fuck, I remember when I forced myself to wear loose jeans and buttoned shirts to school because I didn't want to be seen as "gay."
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 6:31:30am |
re: #280 Kenneth
I have a few gay friends who use that phrase frequently.
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:31:50am |
re: #275 MandyManners
OK. One of my best friends son has been HIV positive for 10 years, the new meds are amazing. He is gay and it just threw me when the boys started tossing that word around as a descriptor for something they didn't like. My youngest is 9, I just didn't want him picking that up and throwing it around.
I really think the gay community hurts itself with folks like me who will live and let live when they force stuff like this class on parents.
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 6:32:05am |
re: #272 Kenneth
As it does me. She also lived it (I include the Queen as a VET). Screw them both (The O, and Sarkosy).
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:33:39am |
re: #279 Killgore Trout
I read some stuff on that Biologos site. I was less than impressed either scientifically or theologically. Making God an invisible side-kick to evolution stiked me as pointless. But they do dissagree with IDer's so at least that's a good thing.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:34:46am |
re: #280 Kenneth
"Gay" is a common school yard slang lately. It is not a homophobic slur, it means boring, wimpy, pointless or a flop. For example, Johnny attempts a stunt on his skate board and falls. His friends laugh and say, "Dude, that was soooo gay!"
Speaking of gay, did you see this kenneth?
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
I think this thing here in CA is going to end up in the supreme court just in time for Sotomayor to chime in.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:35:45am |
re: #283 UFO TOFU
Yes, gays will also use the words "fag" or "dyke", in the way some blacks use the "n" word. Dangerous territory for no-gay people to venture, so I avoid it.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 6:35:48am |
re: #287 Kenneth
It looks like the site is supposed to be a very basic introduction. I think the audience they are reaching out to is probably pretty religious and misinformed about science.
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pingjockey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:35:48am |
re: #286 1SG(ret)
IIRC, The Queen worked as a truck mechanic during the war. This is a snub of the highest or 'lowest' order!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 28, 2009 6:35:51am |
re: #280 Kenneth
"Gay" is a common school yard slang lately. It is not a homophobic slur, it means boring, wimpy, pointless or a flop. For example, Johnny attempts a stunt on his skate board and falls. His friends laugh and say, "Dude, that was soooo gay!"
There was a really funny bit on The Simpsons (back, years ago when it was still worth watching) when the two tough guy, bully kids see Nelson kissing Lisa. One of them says, "You kissed a girk. That's sooo gay!"
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livefreeor die Thu, May 28, 2009 6:35:59am |
re: #245 MandyManners
This is from 5/22 but, I saw the interview of one parent this morning.
SNIP
If I were in CA, that would be it for public school. There is no need for five year olds to be discussing sexual behavior and that cannot be avoided when you start talking about these issues outside the home. We are good friends with some families with same-sex parents and we explained it to our kids at an appropriate level for their ages ("Some families have two mommies." End of discussion.) However, when you get into classroom settings with kids with older siblings, etc. things can get inappropriate real fast.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:36:11am |
re: #270 rightside
Did you recently install something into office, or office itself? When you open the control panel, and choose printers, does anything appear in the window? If not, or your printer does not appear, you will have to (re-)install it, using the supplied drivers.
I've not installed anything.
The printer window reads, top to bottom in the left column:
Send to OneNote 2007 Ready
HP Deskjet F4100 Series (Copy 3) [with a green check next to it]
HP Deskjet F4100 Series (Copy 1)
In the left column:
MS XPS Document Writer
HP Deskjet F4100 Series (Copy 2)
HP Deskjet F4100 Offline.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:37:56am |
re: #280 Kenneth
"Gay" is a common school yard slang lately. It is not a homophobic slur, it means boring, wimpy, pointless or a flop. For example, Johnny attempts a stunt on his skate board and falls. His friends laugh and say, "Dude, that was soooo gay!"
It might not be meant to refer to homosexuals directly but, I can see that those are words used to describe effiminate homosexuals.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:38:25am |
re: #288 turn
Interesting. The ban is idiotic anyway. Good to see those two lawyers working together on it.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 28, 2009 6:38:37am |
re: #2 zombie
I still can't figure out if Emily Dickenson is a subtle genius or just a very unsophisticated poet.
The title of one of my favorite books (All We Need of Hell, by Harry Crews) comes from one of her poems.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 6:38:53am |
re: #294 MandyManners
How the heck did your printer get installed 4 times? o_O Try uninstalling and unplugging the printer, restarting the computer, then installing it back again?
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 6:39:10am |
re: #228 Kenneth
The silly thing about this whole business is that it's the 65th anniversary of D-Day. 65 is not normally a big round number to make a special occassion out of, not like the 50th or even the 60th. When you think about it, this event is about giving Obama yet another heroic backdrop for his epic ego.
I have to respectfully disagree with you here. I think every WW2 anniversary for the next ten years should be a HUGE deal EVERY year because the veterans of those wars are likely to all be gone in ten years.
I can't even imagine the outcry if Obama skipped a D-Day service or any military-related anniversary at all.
I voted for Obama and I'm a liberal and probably tied with someone here for 'most moonbatty'--if not to the left of that person-- but I still say we should all make a point of honoring WWII anniversaries and those who fought, every single year for the next ten or the next fifteen.
Time is running out for our vets of the Greatest Generation and the survivors of the Holocaust; that's why it's so important that we enshrine and honour their living testimonies while we still can. Soon the whole field will be owned by revisionists.
Just my opinion.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 6:40:05am |
re: #294 MandyManners
OK, for some reason you have multiple copies of your installed printer. You should be able to right click on each of the copies of your printer, and select remove/delete. Right clicking on the HP Deskjet F4100 icon, and choosing "set as default printer, should make it work for you. It reading offline makes me wonder though, but lets take it one step at a time.
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 6:40:52am |
My boss and I have often pondered this question. Maybe you all can help. His neighbors are lesbians. They both look very manly. They dress like men. Walk and talk like men. If you were a woman attracted to other women wouldn't you want your partner to look like a woman? To be pretty?
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:41:34am |
re: #295 MandyManners
"Gay" is used by gays as a positve word or label for homosexallity. Nothing insulting about it or particularly effeminate.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:41:42am |
re: #298 laZardo
How the heck did your printer get installed 4 times? o_O Try uninstalling and unplugging the printer, restarting the computer, then installing it back again?
I don't know. I'm not uninstalling anything unless I know how to reinstall it.
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theheat Thu, May 28, 2009 6:41:59am |
re: #271 MandyManners
Or, you could beat it to death. I had a scanner that suffered a similar fate.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 6:42:43am |
National Securtiy Adviser says NORK's not "an imminent threat".
President Obama’s national security adviser on Wednesday said that North Korea’s recent nuclear detonation and missile tests are not “an imminent threat” to the safety and security of the United States.
Retired Marine Corps Gen. James Jones, in his first speech on the administration’s approach to national security, said that the “imminent threat” posed by North Korea is that of the proliferation of nuclear technologies to other countries and terrorist organizations.
North Korea still has “a long way” to “weaponize” and work on the delivery of its nuclear missiles before they pose a threat to U.S. security, Jones said in a discussion hosted by the Atlantic Council.
“Nothing that the North Koreans did surprised us,” Jones said. “We knew that they were going to do this, they said so, so no reason not to believe them.”
SNIP
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:43:21am |
re: #296 Kenneth
Interesting. The ban is idiotic anyway. Good to see those two lawyers working together on it.
However idiotic you think it is, it represents the will of the people. Like I've said here before I can care less one way or another until activist attorneys and judges begin to thwart the will of the people and that is where I get riled up. They tried once and got shot down and now they are going to try and take this to the supreme court and make it a federal issue. This is not right IMO.
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theheat Thu, May 28, 2009 6:43:25am |
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:43:37am |
I hate to do this but, I'm dropping out any discussion not related to my computer for a few minutes. This thing is driving me nuts and preventing me from printing out the summer review stuff that The Kid needs. I apologize.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 6:44:07am |
re: #304 MandyManners
You should have the CD for it...whether it came packaged with your computer or not. Otherwise you can look online.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 6:44:11am |
re: #250 1SG(ret)
Totally agree-- you said what I wanted to and more eloquently than I did.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:44:18am |
re: #301 rightside
OK, for some reason you have multiple copies of your installed printer. You should be able to right click on each of the copies of your printer, and select remove/delete. Right clicking on the HP Deskjet F4100 icon, and choosing "set as default printer, should make it work for you. It reading offline makes me wonder though, but lets take it one step at a time.
I'll do that. Hold on, please.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:46:34am |
I just deleted the OneNote thingy and set the last one in my above list as my default. Gonna' try to print something now. bbiab
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badger1970 Thu, May 28, 2009 6:46:44am |
re: #310 MandyManners
If you still have the cd (drivers and utilities) for the danged printer, I suggest as someone stated above, remove (as in delete) all printers, unplug the usb cable from the printer to your computer, and then reinstall from scratch; just my $0.02.
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 6:47:24am |
re: #312 iceweasel
Totally agree-- you said what I wanted to and more eloquently than I did.
Thanks! There have been many words associated with me. I don't think Eloquent has every been one of them though!
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:47:45am |
re: #310 MandyManners
I hate to do this but, I'm dropping out any discussion not related to my computer for a few minutes. This thing is driving me nuts and preventing me from printing out the summer review stuff that The Kid needs. I apologize.
Maybe I can help, what is the problem exactly?
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:48:09am |
re: #300 iceweasel
Indeed you are a moonbat, as you completely missed the point.
I am all in favour of Obama going to the D-Day ceremonies, whatever the year. The problem I have with it is that the French have specifically NOT invited the Queen. This is correctly seen as an insult to the millions of British subjects who fought in the war. Elizabeth was alive during the war and saw the Blitz from her palace window. The British gave a home to Charles de Gaul. Now the French, with American acquiescence or approval, are pissing on the British.
Now do you see the problem?
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:49:37am |
re: #302 KenJen
Dude, people are funny. There's no explaining some things.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 28, 2009 6:49:43am |
re: #302 KenJen
My boss and I have often pondered this question. Maybe you all can help. His neighbors are lesbians. They both look very manly. They dress like men. Walk and talk like men. If you were a woman attracted to other women wouldn't you want your partner to look like a woman? To be pretty?
I've noticed the same thing, and the corollary - the gay men I know go to great lengths to look smart & stylish & be attractive.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 6:50:40am |
re: #302 KenJen
My stepdaughter was over with one of her gay male companions this weekend. Her friend (a pretty muscular guy) was talking about his new boyfriend. He says "I 'm not interested in some flaming, limp-wristed faggot; I want to get it on with a real man."
I guess that doesn't really help with your question...
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badger1970 Thu, May 28, 2009 6:51:07am |
re: #319 Kenneth
and not to mention the Dunkirk operation where anything that floated, sailed or moved on water piloted by military and civilians saved the AEF.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 6:52:01am |
re: #322 UFO TOFU
My stepdaughter was over with one of her gay male companions this weekend. Her friend (a pretty muscular guy) was talking about his new boyfriend. He says "I 'm not interested in some flaming, limp-wristed faggot; I want to get it on with a real man."
I guess that doesn't really help with your question...
Guess we all have our "types" we're attracted to whether gay, straight, whatever.
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VioletTiger Thu, May 28, 2009 6:52:46am |
re: #265 MandyManners
I heard The Kid refering to something as "gay" the other day. I didn't know what to say.
Very common usage for kids. Has nothing to do witsilly, h homosexuals. As someone else already said, it means geeky, dorky, whatever. Don't know howit started.
When you think about it, the original meaning of gay was something happy or silly. Who knows how it came to be related to homosexuals.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 6:52:59am |
And let's not forget our heroic Canadian friends who came ashore at Juno beach.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 6:53:11am |
Morning folks! Just checking in before taking the kids to daycare....
Hope everyone is well
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:53:27am |
re: #324 redstateredneck
Guess we all have our "types" we're attracted to whether gay, straight, whatever.
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. Oh man, I mentioned chocolate, sorry red.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 6:53:34am |
re: #325 VioletTiger
Very common usage for kids. Has nothing to do witsilly, h homosexuals. As someone else already said, it means geeky, dorky, whatever. Don't know howit started.
When you think about it, the original meaning of gay was something happy or silly. Who knows how it came to be related to homosexuals.
Yeah, when kids refer to something being gay they mean lame.
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VioletTiger Thu, May 28, 2009 6:53:55am |
re: #325 VioletTiger
oooo that was really sloppy. I can't type this morning. Sorry.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 6:54:26am |
re: #329 redstateredneck
Yeah, when kids refer to something being gay they mean lame.
Not just kids...I've heard better half use it the same way...
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:54:31am |
re: #325 VioletTiger
Very common usage for kids. Has nothing to do witsilly, h homosexuals. As someone else already said, it means geeky, dorky, whatever. Don't know howit started.
When you think about it, the original meaning of gay was something happy or silly. Who knows how it came to be related to homosexuals.
The boys ues it, I never had a problem with understanding the context. No big deal.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 6:54:36am |
re: #328 turn
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. Oh man, I mentioned chocolate, sorry red.
I'm one of the few women lizards who is not a chocoholic. I can take it or leave it.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 6:54:37am |
re: #324 redstateredneck
I guess so. Our daughter seems to favor hanging out with a couple of gays so she can have a good time without worrying about being hit on.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:54:53am |
re: #329 redstateredneck
Yeah, when kids refer to something being gay they mean lame.
Exactly, no prob
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:55:18am |
re: #333 redstateredneck
I'm one of the few women lizards who is not a chocoholic. I can take it or leave it.
Really? I'll have to remember that.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:55:26am |
re: #324 redstateredneck
There's a couple in the neighbourhood I call a "same-ish sex marriage". He's rather effeminate and she's somewhat manly. You sould say they meet in the middle. Whatever... They still managed to have kids & they're great neighbours well like by all anyway.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:55:37am |
I tried to print a short document by going to the Office icon in the upper left corner and selecting the Printer dialogue box that allows you to choose the printer, number of copies, et cet.. There was no printer selected. I clicked on the printer I just chose as the default printer and hit the print button.
I got window that said that printer was not available and then a window that said Windows has shut down, then a window that said Windows is restarting.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 6:56:08am |
re: #336 turn
Ask her about scrambled eggs and brains, or something like that.
;-)
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 6:56:20am |
re: #334 UFO TOFU
I guess so. Our daughter seems to favor hanging out with a couple of gays so she can have a good time without worrying about being hit on.
My younger daughter who went away to college this year made several gay male friends. She said all the cute, fun guys are gay.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:56:31am |
re: #334 UFO TOFU
I guess so. Our daughter seems to favor hanging out with a couple of gays so she can have a good time without worrying about being hit on.
My niece's best friend is a gay dude, same reason I think.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 6:57:08am |
re: #337 Kenneth
There's a couple in the neighbourhood I call a "same-ish sex marriage". He's rather effeminate and she's somewhat manly. You sould say they meet in the middle. Whatever... They still managed to have kids & they're great neighbours well like by all anyway.
Role reversals?
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 6:57:12am |
re: #316 badger1970
If you still have the cd (drivers and utilities) for the danged printer, I suggest as someone stated above, remove (as in delete) all printers, unplug the usb cable from the printer to your computer, and then reinstall from scratch; just my $0.02.
I usually suggest for any device to go to the manufacturer's web site and download the latest drivers. The CDs that come with them are usually obsolete by the time you get the box home.
And NEVER install a device driver from Microsoft Update! Go to the hardware manufacturer's site.
(I did that for a disk controller, and the firmware got wiped. Fortunately my boot disk was on a different controller, so I could reboot and get to the manufacturer's site to get the firmware and the latest driver.)
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:57:15am |
re: #316 badger1970
If you still have the cd (drivers and utilities) for the danged printer, I suggest as someone stated above, remove (as in delete) all printers, unplug the usb cable from the printer to your computer, and then reinstall from scratch; just my $0.02.
I took my dad with me to get my new printer in November 2007 and like a fucking idiot, I let him have the package containing the cd's and such. Now, he says he doesn't have the package. Pardon me while I kick my ass.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 6:57:56am |
re: #339 UFO TOFU
Ask her about scrambled eggs and brains, or something like that.
;-)
That was my father, not me!
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:58:16am |
re: #338 MandyManners
oh man you're so screwed!
/sorry couldn't resist
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:58:26am |
re: #344 MandyManners
You can download the drivers from the manufacturer site
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 6:58:48am |
re: #338 MandyManners
If you actually rebooted, and are back, have you tried printing again? It seems windows is not recognizing your printer, despite being installed. You should remove all copies of that deskjet as well, they may be causing the issues as well. Aside from the obvious (printer turned on, cable connected, set online, has paper inside, etc.), you may need to reinstall the printer again.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 6:58:50am |
re: #339 UFO TOFU
Ask her about scrambled eggs and brains, or something like that.
;-)
What's up UFO? Hey are you in CA?
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 6:59:10am |
re: #318 turn
Maybe I can help, what is the problem exactly?
I start stating it somewhere around No. 255 and list what's on my printer box at No. 294.
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ConservatismNow! Thu, May 28, 2009 6:59:10am |
re: #348 Kenneth
You can download the drivers from the manufacturer site
But be prepared for a 20-30 minute download. I can't stand HP printers for that reason.
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VioletTiger Thu, May 28, 2009 6:59:28am |
re: #344 MandyManners
I took my dad with me to get my new printer in November 2007 and like a fucking idiot, I let him have the package containing the cd's and such. Now, he says he doesn't have the package. Pardon me while I kick my ass.
You can download printer drivers from their website. Just know your printer model and they are bound to be there. There might even be an update for you.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 6:59:30am |
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 7:00:30am |
re: #319 Kenneth
Indeed you are a moonbat, as you completely missed the point.
I am all in favour of Obama going to the D-Day ceremonies, whatever the year. The problem I have with it is that the French have specifically NOT invited the Queen. This is correctly seen as an insult to the millions of British subjects who fought in the war. Elizabeth was alive during the war and saw the Blitz from her palace window. The British gave a home to Charles de Gaul. Now the French, with American acquiescence or approval, are pissing on the British.
Now do you see the problem?
Well, I think you insulted me for no good reason.
If your point is that the Queen should have been invited, I completely agree. And btw, she didn't merely observe the war, she's a veteran. She trained to drive ambulances and she served.
However, this isn't something that is Obama's fault at all. Even the Brit press is blaming Sarko and Gordon Brown for the lack of an invite to the Queen--and I will give you links if you want them.
So do you see the problem here?-- How crazy would it be if Obama invited other heads of states to some event held and sponsered in another nation? then he really COULD and justifiably be called arrogant!
Calm down, watch the cool Office Space link, and don't leap all over me because I'm an admitted liberal.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:00:55am |
Here's an update on the HLF sentencings yesterday. They were defiant to the end.
5 decry jail terms in Holy Land Foundation case
Some of the reader comments are unbelievable, especially one from somebody who claims to be "...a Jew born in Palestine", who now lives in Germany.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 7:01:11am |
re: #350 turn
Busy as hell, thanks for asking. Yeah, I'm in socal, Inland Empire. So have you laid away a supply of flip flops for the pup?
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 7:01:13am |
re: #349 rightside
If you actually rebooted, and are back, have you tried printing again? It seems windows is not recognizing your printer, despite being installed. You should remove all copies of that deskjet as well, they may be causing the issues as well. Aside from the obvious (printer turned on, cable connected, set online, has paper inside, etc.), you may need to reinstall the printer again.
If I remove my copies of DeskJet, how will I get them back?!
I'm gonna' reboot. Hold on.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:01:39am |
re: #319 Kenneth
Indeed you are a moonbat, as you completely missed the point.
I am all in favour of Obama going to the D-Day ceremonies, whatever the year. The problem I have with it is that the French have specifically NOT invited the Queen. This is correctly seen as an insult to the millions of British subjects who fought in the war. Elizabeth was alive during the war and saw the Blitz from her palace window. The British gave a home to Charles de Gaul. Now the French, with American acquiescence or approval, are pissing on the British.
Now do you see the problem?
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Well - you'll be sorta pleased to read the latest on this:
French D-Day surrender: Sarkozy makes U-turn and says Queen IS welcome at 65th anniversary
From that link:
'The French bowed to British anger yesterday over their failure to invite the Queen to next week's D-Day events.
After an outcry revealed in yesterday's Daily Mail, they announced that she was 'welcome' after all at the 65th anniversary.
It was a dramatic U-turn by the French, who only hours before had been insisting that they had never planned to invite any members of the Royal Family.'
So far so good - but then see this:
'Gordon Brown faced mounting criticism as MPs and veterans accused him of being out of step with the public mood and failing to sort out the issue with the French months ago.
The Prime Minister's spokesman insisted that during months of discussions with Paris and Buckingham Palace, he had believed all along that the Royal Family were 'content' not to be involved in the plans.'
Yep - nobody's fault, everybody thought the Queen 'didn't want it' - as if!
So here's another official announcement:
I loathe the Fwench - but I loathe Gord even more!
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 28, 2009 7:02:05am |
re: #337 Kenneth
There's a couple in the neighbourhood I call a "same-ish sex marriage". He's rather effeminate and she's somewhat manly. You sould say they meet in the middle. Whatever... They still managed to have kids & they're great neighbours well like by all anyway.
He is a male lesbian and she is a female gay man. The fact that these specific type of gay people choose partners with whom they can actually breed just makes it easier for them to stay in the closet.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 7:02:16am |
re: #359 MandyManners
You only need one instance of your deskjet printer for windows. The others are merely copies, and can be removed without harm.
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razorbacker Thu, May 28, 2009 7:02:19am |
Schoolyard 'gay' taunts are a newish thing; I never heard of anyone in my school days called 'gay'. Not even the soft-spoken kid who wore pressed khaki pants, pressed white shirt, and bow tie.
Although there was the unspoken knowledge that you could save hundreds of lives at the beach and never be known as 'razorbacker the life-saver'. But if they caught you just one time with a dick in your mouth you'd be, 'razorbacker, that cocksuc*er', the rest of your days.
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badger1970 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:02:31am |
re: #343 Kosh's Shadow
The problem with HP is the file size for the drivers. The cd would be quicker for now.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:03:06am |
re: #338 MandyManners
I tried to print a short document by going to the Office icon in the upper left corner and selecting the Printer dialogue box that allows you to choose the printer, number of copies, et cet.. There was no printer selected. I clicked on the printer I just chose as the default printer and hit the print button.
I got window that said that printer was not available and then a window that said Windows has shut down, then a window that said Windows is restarting.
I'd suggest unplugging the printer, removing all the printers from the printer dialog, download the newest driver, and then, if the driver is a zip file or exe, extract or run it.
THEN plug in the printer and point to where the extracted files went.
Although if you have time, I'd check the disk first. In most current versions of Windows, open My Computer, right click on the drive, select Tools tab. Check disk for errors, set "Automatically fix file system errors" Click OK.
It will tell you that it has to reboot.
Reboot and let it run the disk check; when it reboots to Windows, you're OK.
And run a virus scan. Make sure your software is up to date; if not, there are free online scans. There is also a free trial of AVG (grisoft.com)
Do the disk check first, because if the disk is failing, nothing else will work right.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 7:03:31am |
re: #359 MandyManners
When you get back, and if you're reading this, I posted a quick link to a search for your type of printer at HP. I'm not sure exactly what number your F4100 series is, so you'll have to pick from there.
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 7:03:32am |
re: #351 MandyManners
I start stating it somewhere around No. 255 and list what's on my printer box at No. 294.
Good Morning lizards! esp. you mandy...
Anytime your printers get hinky.. they don't appear or muliple copies appear the first thing you want to do is reboot..Sounds crazy but there is a bug with windows and memory leaks for the print spooler..When you try to print windows gets all whacky cause the heap is too low..
After that then we talk about reinstall...
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:03:54am |
re: #358 UFO TOFU
Busy as hell, thanks for asking. Yeah, I'm in socal, Inland Empire. So have you laid away a supply of flip flops for the pup?
heh, you remembered that. He's going to be 4 in November, not a pup but a boob. Good dog. You a dog person?
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:04:20am |
re: #344 MandyManners
I took my dad with me to get my new printer in November 2007 and like a fucking idiot, I let him have the package containing the cd's and such. Now, he says he doesn't have the package. Pardon me while I kick my ass.
Go on the Web site of the manufacturer and see if you can find updated drivers. Also, in a lot of cases, you have to install the drivers first, then connect the printers. I would delete the printer form the list of printers, and remove the drivers from Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs (XP), or Control Panel/Programs (Vista). This, of course, AFTER you download newer drivers from the mfr's Web site.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 7:04:49am |
This is pretty easy......
O'Donnel(s) PWN Buchannan on Racism - Again!
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 7:05:08am |
re: #317 1SG(ret)
Thanks! There have been many words associated with me. I don't think Eloquent has every been one of them though!
Well, it should have been one of the words associated with you. I've thought so before before but I wasn't registered so I couldn't tell you!
PS please don't tell me about the other words associated with you, my spidey sense tells me some of them might have been dirty.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 28, 2009 7:05:08am |
Most of us are not fans of Obama, but some of us have been willing to give him a chance. For those willing to give him a chance, what would you like to hear him say in Egypt next week?
I'd like him to say something to the arab street along these lines:
Violence has gotten most of you nothing. Until you stop making war against Israel, the vast majority of you will be needlessly trapped in a permanent state of conflict. Try a diffferent way because Israel is not your enemy.
I realize this may accomplish nothing, but if he spoke the words it could not hurt. How about it Mr. President?
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Spare O'Lake Thu, May 28, 2009 7:05:28am |
re: #219 Kenneth
Good morning, fellow Canuck!
Have you noticed the absurd spectacle of the Liberals calling for Harper to fire his finance minister because the federal deficit is greater than previously expected? The truly funny part is, when Flaherty introduced his budget back in January the Liberals were calling for far more "stimulus" spending. If the Liberal had their way, we would have twice the defict by now.
So far the CBC, G&M & Toronto Star haven't noticed the contradiction. I guess it's the "Iggy fever"!
Ignatieff lacks the balls to precipitate an election over the issue, so he and the Libs have the luxury of yapping at the Government's heels.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:05:32am |
re: #357 Ward Cleaver
Here's an update on the HLF sentencings yesterday. They were defiant to the end.
5 decry jail terms in Holy Land Foundation case
Some of the reader comments are unbelievable, especially one from somebody who claims to be "...a Jew born in Palestine", who now lives in Germany.
"brutal apartheid regime"....I can't say how tiresome that shit is...the Palis time has come for full exposure, world wide and with all the ugly trimmings
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 7:05:44am |
re: #369 turn
heh, you remembered that. He's going to be 4 in November, not a pup but a boob. Good dog. You a dog person?
Last night we had lighting and thunder..Little Winston the dog ran into the bedroom and crawled under the covers..funny as hell
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:06:02am |
re: #369 turn
heh, you remembered that. He's going to be 4 in November, not a pup but a boob. Good dog. You a dog person?
Hiya, {turn}!
What else has your excellent dog been training you to do for him?
:-)))
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 7:06:09am |
re: #371 badger1970
No worries, I know everyone is trying to help Mandy, I hope she doesn't get overwhelmed by all our suggestions.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:06:54am |
re: #372 Killgore Trout
This is pretty easy......
O'Donnel(s) PWN Buchannan on Racism - Again!
Why do you want to make us go there (Kos)?
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:07:14am |
re: #359 MandyManners
If I remove my copies of DeskJet, how will I get them back?!
I'm gonna' reboot. Hold on.
You get them back by re-installing the printer.
Run the exe (if that is the download) or unzip it, THEN plug in the printer, and tell Windows to get the driver from where you put the extracted files.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 7:07:52am |
re: #378 HoosierHoops
Last night we had lighting and thunder..Little Winston the dog ran into the bedroom and crawled under the covers..funny as hell
My dog used to get in the bathtub during thunderstorms or fireworks celebrations.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:07:56am |
re: #365 Kosh's Shadow
yeah, what he said. Kosh are you a geek or what? ha
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FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 7:08:29am |
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:08:50am |
re: #378 HoosierHoops
Last night we had lighting and thunder..Little Winston the dog ran into the bedroom and crawled under the covers..funny as hell
Sadie Mae, the hound dog dachshund wannabe, was pacing the floor at our house. Thunder makes her a little concerned.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 7:08:59am |
re: #382 Ward Cleaver
Why do you want to make us go there (Kos)?
Because they have the video. Right wing blogs aren't running this video. I'm not in favor of of affirmative action either but it's a lost cause when Buchanan becomes the spokesman against it.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:09:04am |
Soto on free speech...I like this debate myself
[Link: bristolpress.com...]
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:09:30am |
re: #375 turn
Morning yma, is she going to go?
Dunno - its a bit over a week. She could certainly go at the drop of a hat and sod the protocol, but will the Fwench let her? Security and all that, see ...
The main fault lies with Gord, his government should have worked ahrd for this - but he and his henchmen said it wasn't a real jubilee, 65 years, and nobody would go. And no funding for the vets either ...
But once he heard that FCBBHO was coming - they pulled all the stops out - for Gord, not for the vets and certainly not for the Queen.
Bastards!
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:09:58am |
So anybody got any ideas on how to get a toddler to keep their diaper on @ night? Her royal stoutness has figured out how to take hers off but not how to get it back on......
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:10:10am |
Good morning.
Rather to my surprise, CNN.com has a "front page" link to an opinion piece by a Cato Institute scholar, who argues that Sotomayor is a mediocrity who has been picked due to ethnicity.
[I]n over 10 years on the Second Circuit, she has not issued any important decisions or made a name for herself as a legal scholar or particularly respected jurist. In picking a case to highlight during his introduction of the nominee, President Obama had to go back to her days as a trial judge and a technical ruling that ended the 1994-95 baseball strike.
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FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 7:10:26am |
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:10:36am |
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:10:37am |
re: #391 srb1976
So anybody got any ideas on how to get a toddler to keep their diaper on @ night? Her royal stoutness has figured out how to take hers off but not how to get it back on......
Duct tape?
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 7:10:41am |
re: #369 turn
Yeah, but I address all dogs as "my favoritist puppy" despite their age. The new dwarf goat we got is better than television. He head butts the dog then stands up on his hind legs walking menacingly towards the dog (although the dog is three times bigger), then bounds away with the dog in hot pursuit(and yes, he sproings, just like in the cartoons. I don't ever want to take any grief from anyone again when I say I know something is true because I saw it in a cartoon once).
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:11:24am |
re: #378 HoosierHoops
Last night we had lighting and thunder..Little Winston the dog ran into the bedroom and crawled under the covers..funny as hell
Morning hoops, and Winston is what breed again? I had a female lab once that totally freaked out on loud noises, man she could sense fourth of July coming weeks in advance. Poor dog.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:11:27am |
re: #378 HoosierHoops
Last night we had lighting and thunder..Little Winston the dog ran into the bedroom and crawled under the covers..funny as hell
Hiya, {HH}!
Poor Winston!
Dogs hate thunderstorms - Big Dog always tried to sit on my lap and hide under my sweater - all fifty pounds of him!
But more importantly - did Winston enjoy his swim?
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:11:31am |
re: #395 redstateredneck
Duct tape?
I thought of that, but I have to be able to change it in the morning
/
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:12:11am |
re: #384 bosforus
My dog used to get in the bathtub during thunderstorms or fireworks celebrations.
Smart dog!
My wife's "former" dog (that is, who lives with my inlaws) under the same circumstances finds the smallest room in the house, and then howls.
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FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 7:12:34am |
re: #394 Ward Cleaver
Gorn is in a furor over the dealer closings?!?
Yes. and he will now eat them!
/see my 393. My mistake.
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badger1970 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:12:39am |
re: #386 FrogMarch
This may be a mountain out of a mole hill. I know of some corporations that give heavily to both sides of the fence (kind of like protection money). Heck some dealerships sell GM and five miles down the road sell Toyotas.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:13:02am |
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:13:10am |
re: #379 KenJen
Do you miss Blair as much as I miss Bush?
Tony Bliar, gah!
One things for sure - he saw the mess coming and reliquished his job to Gord, right on time.
Oh - and all his expenses and such got 'inadvertently' shredded ... he's got five properties now, and gets the highest fees as speaker ...
Thats socialism in action, that is!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:13:12am |
re: #391 srb1976
So anybody got any ideas on how to get a toddler to keep their diaper on @ night? Her royal stoutness has figured out how to take hers off but not how to get it back on......
Oh good Lord. We went through that with two of our girls. Start by pinning them on. If that doesn't work, you're going to have to put pajamas on her somehow (like pin the zipper) so she can't get them off, to get the diaper off.
How old is she, anyway?
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 7:13:22am |
re: #356 iceweasel
I'm not jumping on you for being an admitted liberal. After all, admitting you have a problem is the first step to a cure right? (just teasing). I was reacting to the fact you completely missed my point about the Queen not being invited. I had repeated point several times already.
Now if you have information this is all coming from Sarko, fine. True, Obama cannot invite the Queen to France. He could tell Sarko to be a better host, but we have no idea what communications went on. As POTUS Obama has a duty to be there. As a Canadian, I am offended that my Queen is not invited to honour those men. There was much Canadian blood spilled on those shores. The Queen is getting old and should be there.
Your comments about the importance of honouring these veterans is so very true and I commend you for writting about it so emphatically. On that we are 100% in agreement. We have a debt to those men and women and should never forget it.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:13:32am |
re: #400 srb1976
I thought of that, but I have to be able to change it in the morning
/
I think it's just a rite of passage for toddlers. Running around nekkid exerts their independence.
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:13:40am |
re: #396 UFO TOFU
Yeah, but I address all dogs as "my favoritist puppy" despite their age. The new dwarf goat we got is better than television. He head butts the dog then stands up on his hind legs walking menacingly towards the dog (although the dog is three times bigger), then bounds away with the dog in hot pursuit(and yes, he sproings, just like in the cartoons. I don't ever want to take any grief from anyone again when I say I know something is true because I saw it in a cartoon once).
Can you post a video? Pleeease. How cute.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 7:14:05am |
re: #401 Occasional Reader
Smart dog!
My wife's "former" dog (that is, who lives with my inlaws) under the same circumstances finds the smallest room in the house, and then howls.
Ha ha!
Our dog was also a vengeful dog. She pooped in our beds if we didn't come home in time to let her out.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:14:24am |
re: #398 turn
Morning hoops, and Winston is what breed again? I had a female lab once that totally freaked out on loud noises, man she could sense fourth of July coming weeks in advance. Poor dog.
Our alpha standard poodle (57 lbs) is terrified of lightening and fireworks, and comes to me for reassurance. I've had to pet him in the middle of the night.
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 7:14:27am |
re: #399 yma o hyd
Hiya, {HH}!
Poor Winston!
Dogs hate thunderstorms - Big Dog always tried to sit on my lap and hide under my sweater - all fifty pounds of him!But more importantly - did Winston enjoy his swim?
Good Morning...He wasn't to happy in the water..panic look..How could you throw me in here? He likes to set on laps not swim them I guess.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:14:38am |
re: #406 Ward Cleaver
Oh good Lord. We went through that with two of our girls. Start by pinning them on. If that doesn't work, you're going to have to put pajamas on her somehow (like pin the zipper) so she can't get them off, to get the diaper off.
How old is she, anyway?
19 months.....yesterday she saw her big brother playing outside, stop, strip, and pee in the grass and has been trying to copy him ever since....funny....
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:15:16am |
re: #402 FrogMarch
Yes. and he will now eat them!
/see my 393. My mistake.
Lots of crap like this will happen during 0bama's turn, and the MSM will just yawn.
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Kenneth Thu, May 28, 2009 7:15:20am |
re: #360 yma o hyd
Wow! Better late than never. I'll stand down from outrage now. Looking forward to Obama's pretty speech. I just hope he doesn't talk about himself too much.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:15:35am |
re: #404 Kosh's Shadow
I'm a software engineer, and I've been using computers since high school (when very few schools had computers, never mind public ones - this was early 1970's). In this case, an IBM 1130. I think my watch is more powerful than that.
Damn. That beats the hell out of my TRS-80 "old timer" story.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:15:43am |
re: #387 redstateredneck
Sadie Mae, the hound dog dachshund wannabe, was pacing the floor at our house. Thunder makes her a little concerned.
I think its not just the ionised air, its the random loud noise which really scares them. They have no idea where its coming from.
Dog trainers say one ought not to fuss over them because that'll make the fear worse - but how can you not?
Madame's heart beat gets so high, and she trembles from deep inside her body - its awful!
So of course I cuddle her!
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 7:15:53am |
re: #409 KenJen
I'm pretty technologically challenged, but I did just get a new video camera. I'll get back to you.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:15:58am |
re: #408 redstateredneck
I think it's just a rite of passage for toddlers. Running around nekkid exerts their independence.
Not worried about the running around nekkid part.....it's the waking up in a puddle of pee that concerns me
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:16:05am |
re: #413 srb1976
19 months.....yesterday she saw her big brother playing outside, stop, strip, and pee in the grass and has been trying to copy him ever since....funny....
So you've got another one that pees in the yard as well. Great, just great.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:16:21am |
re: #410 bosforus
Ha ha!
Our dog was also a vengeful dog. She pooped in our beds if we didn't come home in time to let her out.
I had a friend whose dog pooped in the bathtub. That was kind of convenient.
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FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 7:16:22am |
re: #403 badger1970
This may be a mountain out of a mole hill. I know of some corporations that give heavily to both sides of the fence (kind of like protection money). Heck some dealerships sell GM and five miles down the road sell Toyotas.
Could be. I'd like some transparency. The government choosing which dealers to close and which ones to leave open is scary enough.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:18:02am |
re: #420 Ward Cleaver
So you've got another one that pees in the yard as well. Great, just great.
Not always....just when he has cut it too close to make it back into the house to the bathroom......
He's mostly very good about running back inside, but peeing in the yard helped with potty training in a HUGE way...it was the only way we could get him interested
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:18:24am |
re: #419 srb1976
Not worried about the running around nekkid part.....it's the waking up in a puddle of pee that concerns me
Maybe you could get those pad thingies like they put under you in the hospital? Might save you from having to change the fitted sheet.
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 7:18:36am |
re: #398 turn
Morning hoops, and Winston is what breed again? I had a female lab once that totally freaked out on loud noises, man she could sense fourth of July coming weeks in advance. Poor dog.
Hi turn..He is a little rescue dog..A long hair Chihuahua.. Never barks and is really cool..
How are you today?
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:18:39am |
re: #405 yma o hyd
Tony Bliar, gah!
One things for sure - he saw the mess coming and reliquished his job to Gord, right on time.
Oh - and all his expenses and such got 'inadvertently' shredded ... he's got five properties now, and gets the highest fees as speaker ...
Thats socialism in action, that is!
Can you imagine what Obama will command in speaking fees after he's done playing president? I'm sure the prices paid will be "historic".
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:18:43am |
re: #421 redstateredneck
I had a friend whose dog pooped in the bathtub. That was kind of convenient.
I would go for that. My daughter's cat seems to have trouble determining where the edge of the litterbox is. You can imagine how much fun that makes it for us.
Good morning, everyone. Very grey and overcast here, but I'm going to be pretty busy today.
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gregb Thu, May 28, 2009 7:18:54am |
My old officemate's Web page quote seems similar to Dickinson's quote: Call on God, but row away from the rocks.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 7:19:00am |
re: #390 yma o hyd
Dunno - its a bit over a week. She could certainly go at the drop of a hat and sod the protocol, but will the Fwench let her? Security and all that, see ...
The main fault lies with Gord, his government should have worked ahrd for this - but he and his henchmen said it wasn't a real jubilee, 65 years, and nobody would go. And no funding for the vets either ...
But once he heard that FCBBHO was coming - they pulled all the stops out - for Gord, not for the vets and certainly not for the Queen.
Bastards!
To be fair, the version I was reading in the Brit press last night was the opposite--said that S wanted to hog the spotlight and Obama to himself, and that GB's office (possibly?) dropped the ball about pushing for an invite.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:19:35am |
re: #424 redstateredneck
Maybe you could get those pad thingies like they put under you in the hospital? Might save you from having to change the fitted sheet.
Good idea!
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:19:48am |
re: #412 HoosierHoops
Good Morning...He wasn't to happy in the water..panic look..How could you throw me in here? He likes to set on laps not swim them I guess.
Aww - he'll get better, enver doubt it!
Madame, at first, didn't even go into whatever open water Big dog was swimming in. It took her a while, then she started going in and actually swim. She never was as enthusiastic as Big Dog, but on principle she thought if he was in, so should she!
Winston will start to love it - and then you'll never get him out ...
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:20:04am |
re: #426 KenJen
Can you imagine what Obama will command in speaking fees after he's done playing president? I'm sure the prices paid will be "historic".
Oh, I figure he will ask no less than $1 million to speak, given the Clintons and Gore seem to demand $300K or more, if I remember correctly. You know, you have to count for inflation.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:20:07am |
re: #423 srb1976
Not always....just when he has cut it too close to make it back into the house to the bathroom......
He's mostly very good about running back inside, but peeing in the yard helped with potty training in a HUGE way...it was the only way we could get him interested
That's okay, so long as he doesn't make it a habit. Let us know how the keeping-the-diaper-on thing works out.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 7:20:35am |
re: #388 Killgore Trout
Because they have the video. Right wing blogs aren't running this video. I'm not in favor of of affirmative action either but it's a lost cause when Buchanan becomes the spokesman against it.
Everything becomes a lost cause when Buchanan becomes the spokesperson for it.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 7:20:48am |
re: #382 Ward Cleaver
Why do you want to make us go there (Kos)?
They want to go there because they're stuck on stupid. Each time they argue the lizard army they end looking terrible, but their fanaticism keeps driving them into confrontation. Things will only change when they accept that their ideas don't work.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:21:04am |
re: #380 yma o hyd
Hiya, {turn}!
What else has your excellent dog been training you to do for him?
:-)))
{yma}
Now that you ask, golfing! Funny story. My neighbor wes from tex golfs at Ancil Hoffman where I walk the boob along the American. Last weekend I knew he would be golfing so I walked the dog to the overlook of the 13th hole and waited for him to show up and tee off. I told the boob "look - there's wes" and he perked up and actually started watching him (from about 150 yards!). We watched him put out and caught up to him on the golf cart path where he got to sniff him and confirm he was wes. We followed him along on the path for the next two holes and the boob got the idea that that there golf club hits them little white balls for me to chase them. Ha its was so funny watching him cock his head on that back swing then lung against his lead as he watched that ball take off down the fairway. Well here is the funny part - last night we were sitting out on the patio drinking beer and talking golf. Wes was describing his new grip so I got out a club from the garage for him to show me. He put the club to the ground and the boob rushed over in a hurry and looked on both sides of the club face for the ball! - no ball and what a puzzled look on his face. What a boob.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:21:12am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 83 degrees) partly sunny Charlotte (although, as usual, heavy T-storms are predicted). How is everyone doing this morning?
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SixDegrees Thu, May 28, 2009 7:21:22am |
re: #344 MandyManners
I took my dad with me to get my new printer in November 2007 and like a fucking idiot, I let him have the package containing the cd's and such. Now, he says he doesn't have the package. Pardon me while I kick my ass.
Shouldn't be a problem. You can go to the manufacturer's website and download the driver for your model and operating system.
I really hate to bring this up, and don't mean it as an insult, but it comes up often enough that I have to ask: is the printer turned on?
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:21:23am |
re: #433 Ward Cleaver
That's okay, so long as he doesn't make it a habit. Let us know how the keeping-the-diaper-on thing works out.
If she wasn't so very very tiny, I would switch her to Pull-Ups (worked for her brother, he liked wearing them) but they start in a size Much too big for her
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:21:29am |
re: #428 gregb
My old officemate's Web page quote seems similar to Dickinson's quote: Call on God, but row away from the rocks.
"God gives every bird it's food but he doesn't throw it in the nest" is a favorite of mine.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:22:05am |
re: #426 KenJen
Can you imagine what Obama will command in speaking fees after he's done playing president? I'm sure the prices paid will be "historic".
Oh absolutely - and WAB will rake it in as well.
People like them, and Tone, are the ebst example of why LLL politicians (and their whole ideology) are nothing but a huge con.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:22:09am |
re: #430 srb1976
Good idea!
Yes, good idea. I assume you have a waterproof mattress pad on the bed? Also, use one of the washable absorbent pads that you use on the changing table, and put it on top of the sheet.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:22:41am |
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:22:45am |
re: #432 vxbush
Oh, I figure he will ask no less than $1 million to speak, given the Clintons and Gore seem to demand $300K or more, if I remember correctly. You know, you have to count for inflation.
$1 million. That's about $100 per uhhh.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:23:03am |
re: #391 srb1976
So anybody got any ideas on how to get a toddler to keep their diaper on @ night? Her royal stoutness has figured out how to take hers off but not how to get it back on......
duct tape, works on almost anything
/
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:23:08am |
re: #439 srb1976
If she wasn't so very very tiny, I would switch her to Pull-Ups (worked for her brother, he liked wearing them) but they start in a size Much too big for her
Yeah, she's got a ways to go to get to pull-ups.
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 7:23:17am |
Have to get some work done. Catch up with y'all later.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 28, 2009 7:23:19am |
re: #411 Kosh's Shadow
My crazy mutt barks at the thunder (same way she reacts to any noise, or anyone approaching the house, or when you say "Who's there?") I think she gets freaked out by it when I'm not home - I've seen that she's chewed stuff when I've gotten home after a storm ar after 4th of July fireworks.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 7:23:58am |
re: #427 vxbush
I would go for that. My daughter's cat seems to have trouble determining where the edge of the litterbox is. You can imagine how much fun that makes it for us.
Good morning, everyone. Very grey and overcast here, but I'm going to be pretty busy today.
Same here is Chicagoland. Today and tomorrow will be very busy days for me while I try to finish the month at quota.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:24:29am |
re: #437 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 83 degrees) partly sunny Charlotte (although, as usual, heavy T-storms are predicted). How is everyone doing this morning?
howdy
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:24:54am |
re: #395 redstateredneck
dang, there is another person who has the same idea. btw, I cured the turnwife's plantar faciaitist (sp) with duck tape - really.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:25:04am |
re: #437 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 83 degrees) partly sunny Charlotte (although, as usual, heavy T-storms are predicted). How is everyone doing this morning?
Good. *smooch*! You?
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:26:10am |
re: #429 iceweasel
To be fair, the version I was reading in the Brit press last night was the opposite--said that S wanted to hog the spotlight and Obama to himself, and that GB's office (possibly?) dropped the ball about pushing for an invite.
Well, the rest of the MFM here basically didn't give a toss one way or the other - except for the Daily Mail which started campaigning to get funds for the vets to travel across. None were forthcoming from the Government.
As for Sarkozy hogging the limelight - that was eysterday, the Fwench have now back-pedalled, and bacisally its nobody's fault - yeah, right!
Gord himself wasn't going - he only got himself invited when he heard that PB0 was coming.
Its despicalbe all round from the politicians, but not surprising.
Just shows clearly how much they care about the vets - and thats a big fat sero.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:26:42am |
re: #454 turn
dang, there is another person who has the same idea. btw, I cured the turnwife's plantar faciaitist (sp) with duck tape - really.
Really? One of my co-workers has that.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:26:57am |
Big decisions in the SATTV household today
Should I
A) mow (takes about 2 1/2 hours even on the riding mower and another 1 hour of trimming, blowing and weed whacking the places the mower can't get too
OR
B) have another cup of coffee or two, brunch then a movie with wifey and son
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:27:00am |
re: #454 turn
dang, there is another person who has the same idea. btw, I cured the turnwife's plantar faciaitist (sp) with duck tape - really.
DUCT tape!
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 7:27:29am |
re: #434 iceweasel
Everything becomes a lost cause when Buchanan becomes the spokesperson for it.
That's true , but Laurence O'Donnell is not exactly a good spokesman.
Several years ago on the McLaughlin group he was debating Buchanan about insults being directed at our troops.
Buchanon opined that it can damage morale.
O'Donnell became very agitated & said, "I don't give a damn abouit their morale. They'll do as they're told."
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:27:38am |
re: #459 sattv4u2
Big decisions in the SATTV household today
Should I
A) mow (takes about 2 1/2 hours even on the riding mower and another 1 hour of trimming, blowing and weed whacking the places the mower can't get too
OR
B) have another cup of coffee or two, brunch then a movie with wifey and son
Spend time with the family. The yard can wait.
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:27:57am |
re: #454 turn
dang, there is another person who has the same idea. btw, I cured the turnwife's plantar faciaitist (sp) with duck tape - really.
Is that the foot thing? I have it. Dr. showed me stretches to do. Not working. Tell me more.
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 7:28:14am |
re: #437 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 83 degrees) partly sunny Charlotte (although, as usual, heavy T-storms are predicted). How is everyone doing this morning?
Good Morning Realwest! Hope today finds you well..
I have good news and then bad news..
Last night I got an upding from Charles..First time..I fell back from my desk in shock..Really cool..
Then in a following post I got an upding from Avanti..Bummed me out...
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:28:16am |
re: #454 turn
dang, there is another person who has the same idea. btw, I cured the turnwife's plantar faciaitist (sp) with duck tape - really.
And now that I've got my language pedant thing out of my system... how the hell did you cure plantar fasciitis with duct tape?!
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 7:28:18am |
re: #434 iceweasel
Buchanan gets a lot of face time on TV these days but I don't see his influence increasing like Ron Paul. If Buchanan starts becoming more influential we're in very serious trouble.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:28:26am |
re: #462 redstateredneck
Spend time with the family. The yard can wait.
Not really. I can barely see the top of the car thats out there!
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:28:28am |
re: #396 UFO TOFU
ha, that is funny. Some time I'll tell the story about my neighbor wes challenging his buddy to run across the paddock and try and out chase the ram. Long story short, they got their asses rammed. ha
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:28:53am |
re: #460 Occasional Reader
DUCT tape!
That's another one of those words that people misspelled so they changed it. There is a brand of duct tape called duck tape. Sheesh!
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 28, 2009 7:29:10am |
WOW.
The Obama Admin appears to be targeting Republican owned dealerships for closings while sparing those whose owners contributed to him.
Un. Freaking. Real.
Every Republican who shrugs off Obama as a "once in a lifetime genius" who would have beaten any Republican party should realize that the only thing "once in a generation" is the incompetence of the Republican leadership, which allowed such a callow opportunist into office and can't seem to effectively oppose such blatant acts.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:29:21am |
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:29:41am |
re: #451 Iron Fist
white, black, puce or chartreuse
Dude... Real Men are not even supposed to know the word "chartreuse", much less that it's a color!
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:29:44am |
re: #436 turn
I love it!
But do watch out he doesn't catch them golf balls - labs can easily swallow them, and then its a trip to the vet.
Story ehre, a few sumemrs ago, was that a golf club was puzzled why they couldn't find any of their lost golf balls.
Turns out a neighbouring lab had dutifully chased them - and eaten them!
He had thirteen golf balls in his stomach - his owner got concerned when that lab lost weight, in spite of scoffing all his food and then some! Thats how they found out ...
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:29:54am |
are the Norks a threat?...to who?
[Link: hotair.com...]
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:29:56am |
re: #454 turn
dang, there is another person who has the same idea. btw, I cured the turnwife's plantar faciaitist (sp) with duck tape - really.
Details, please! I'd like to know how. I have issues.
Well, we all knew that....
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 7:30:02am |
re: #463 KenJen
Is that the foot thing? I have it. Dr. showed me stretches to do. Not working. Tell me more.
KenJen - I had it, and the stretches worked for me ... VERY slowly.
I also had to wear my New Balance shoes almost exclusively for months. But I can now get out of bed without hobbling in pain.
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 7:30:08am |
I know this is a little personal, but thought I'd give the KY lizards a little warning. My youngest turned 16 today and just called to tell me he got his permit. Damn, they grow up so fast. 6' 4" and driving. Now back to the real world problems. Sorry!
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:30:25am |
re: #464 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Realwest! Hope today finds you well..
I have good news and then bad news..
Last night I got an upding from Charles..First time..I fell back from my desk in shock..Really cool..
Then in a following post I got an upding from Avanti..Bummed me out...
Maybe they were both drunk!
//////
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 7:30:41am |
re: #465 Occasional Reader
And now that I've got my language pedant thing out of my system... how the hell did you cure plantar fasciitis with duct tape?!
Duct tape from under your toes to over your knees every night?
/
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 7:31:06am |
re: #472 KenJen
What did Charles upding you for?
Not wanting America to fail...Fail is a stupid word to use in politics..
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:31:53am |
re: #470 karmic_inquisitor
I'm still a little leery of this story... but if it checks out, it will be quite a scandal. Banana Republic governmental tactics.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 7:31:54am |
re: #473 Occasional Reader
Dude... Real Men are not even supposed to know the word "chartreuse", much less that it's a color!
Hey, it's a wonderful liqueur!
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 7:32:00am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 7:32:23am |
Check this out. Thomas Sowell on Sotomayor:
‘Empathy’ in Action
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 7:32:52am |
re: #473 Occasional Reader
Reddish-violetish edging on brown a little bit, I think.
/and am very ashamed to do so.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:33:03am |
re: #450 Mad Al-Jaffee
My crazy mutt barks at the thunder (same way she reacts to any noise, or anyone approaching the house, or when you say "Who's there?") I think she gets freaked out by it when I'm not home - I've seen that she's chewed stuff when I've gotten home after a storm ar after 4th of July fireworks.
Now thunder storms one cannot predict - but fireworks are usually going off on set dates.
I've found that giving them hounds a nice big bowl of cooked pasta with whatever, tuna or meat mixed in, will make them relaxed and sleepy.
Give it to them about an hour before the fireworks - all will be well!
Worked a treat with my lot - who usually went into hysterics at fireworks.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:33:03am |
re: #470 karmic_inquisitor
WOW.
The Obama Admin appears to be targeting Republican owned dealerships for closings while sparing those whose owners contributed to him.
Un. Freaking. Real.
Every Republican who shrugs off Obama as a "once in a lifetime genius" who would have beaten any Republican party should realize that the only thing "once in a generation" is the incompetence of the Republican leadership, which allowed such a callow opportunist into office and can't seem to effectively oppose such blatant acts.
If this thing should check out - still seems a little hazy at the moment - then it would be yet another sign of the growing Bolivarianism of Barry's leadership.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 7:33:38am |
re: #481 HoosierHoops
Not wanting America to fail...Fail is a stupid word to use in politics..
/Stewie Griffin
I don't want Lois to die, so much as I don't want her to be alive anymore.
/Stewie Griffin
Six one way, a half-dozen the other. I sure don't want to see war crimes trials. So if they don't happen, isn't that a failure in someone's eyes?
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:33:43am |
re: #478 1SG(ret)
I know this is a little personal, but thought I'd give the KY lizards a little warning. My youngest turned 16 today and just called to tell me he got his permit. Damn, they grow up so fast. 6' 4" and driving. Now back to the real world problems. Sorry!
Can you describe the vehicle please so I can keep a safe distance?// 6'4" where did that come from?
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:34:22am |
re: #459 sattv4u2
Big decisions in the SATTV household today
Should I
A) mow (takes about 2 1/2 hours even on the riding mower and another 1 hour of trimming, blowing and weed whacking the places the mower can't get too
OR
B) have another cup of coffee or two, brunch then a movie with wifey and son
B) - and then get them to give you a hand!
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:34:59am |
re: #486 Dark_Falcon
Check this out. Thomas Sowell on Sotomayor:
‘Empathy’ in Action
like Jammie said...a hack is a hack...BO is putting lipstick on a pig again
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:35:32am |
re: #491 KenJen
Can you describe the vehicle please so I can keep a safe distance?// 6'4" where did that come from?
Or, better, yet, paint the car chartreuse so we'll all know.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:35:49am |
re: #486 Dark_Falcon
Check this out. Thomas Sowell on Sotomayor:
‘Empathy’ in Action
Why is it that Clarence Thomas and Alberto Gonzales had to struggle to get where they are but that wasn't an admirable attribute. Oh yeah, they're conservatives!
| 497 |
MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 7:35:59am |
Welll, this is fucked. I disconnected the printer and rebooted and got a black screen that told me to select boot device PM-ST3120215AS or PS-ATAPI DVD A DH 16A3L. I chose the former. I tried to print a document using Print option under the Office icon. No printer available. Then, "Microsoft Word has stopped working." Then, it restarted. I tried to print using the Printer icon. Then, "MicroSoft Office Word has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notifyyou if a solution is available".
The Kid has a dentist appointment in 90 minutes so I gotta' get a shower. bbiab
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:36:26am |
re: #62 zombie
Yes. About the resignation over the nomination. They're not even gonna try. Geez. They are running scared, is my guess. I think the "All conservatives are inherently racist" meme has worked and now the Republicans live in terror of having the "racist" label applied to them -- which the Democrats can (and do) apply at will. Whenever the whim strikes them, which is often. It's game over for the Republican Party conservatism, if so.
Well you're right that they aren't even gonna try, but zombie they didn't try to block Ginsberg who, in my book, was more liberal than Sotomayor! Besides which, as I so inarticulately mentioned in the prior thread, unless there's a real smoking gun, she is the kind of woman Republicans used to cheer for, you know? I mean she rose from the depths of poverty to attaining the highest level job in her profession and frankly it appears she did it with good old fashioned HARD WORK and had the abilities and rode those abilities to where she is now.
There doesn't appear to be much for Republican/Conservatives to fight her on - yes, we can bitch and moan about judicial philosophy and "activism" but that's not gonna get us anywhere, especially with the DEMOCRATS running the country and having 60 votes in the Senate. You have to know when to fight and when to hunker down. She's not going to change the balance of the court since she's replacing Souter the goofball LEFTY, so why bother (again, absent any smoking gun)?
And the MSM and certain blogs have ALWAYS painted conservatives as "racists" (while they never miss a chance to call someone a "JOO"!) so this is nothing new. The Tea Party's are something altogether different. They aren't being led by Ron Paul nor by Neo Nazi's. YES, Ron Paul and Neo-Nazis will try to recruit from those Americans who attend the Tea Parties because they are FED UP with government's tax tax and more tax and regulate, regulate more regulations but that doesn't mean they'll succeed in any significant way, and those Tea Parties will grow and soon THEY'LL be called Racist because there are no or few Black people in attendence - well no shit - 96% of Black voters voted for Obama. Does anyone REALLY expect them to come out to Tea Parties or in anyother way significantly criticize Obama?
Hang in there zombie, we'll get ours back soon enough.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:36:32am |
re: #494 Iron Fist
the way I've heard a similar statement is:
Pray like only God can save you, then work like He doesn't exist
And of course there's always the time-honored "praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition".
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 7:37:11am |
re: #491 KenJen
F150, is there anything else? Mom is 6'1" as am I.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:37:11am |
re: #463 KenJen
Is that the foot thing? I have it. Dr. showed me stretches to do. Not working. Tell me more.
Yes jen, no kidding. She tried all sorts of things, stretching, casting etc. and nothing worked. I search the web and found a site on it where the guy recommended duck tape. What this is is irritation of the tendon on the bottom of your foot but the irritation can't be relieved because you are constantly walking on it and flexing the tendon. You can take the pressure off the tendon and give it time to heal by using duct tap. Make an arch in you sole and have the hubby stretch a piece of duck tape from the balls of your toes to the heal of your foot. It takes some more wrapped perpendicular to the ends to hold it in place but you get the picture. When your arch stretches the duct tape should take some of the stress - pratice with this and it will work. It takes time though but you will feel the relieve when it is done properly and religiously. Good luck. oh and put the balls of your foot on a book and stretch out you calf muscles for 1 minute three times a day.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:37:14am |
re: #494 Iron Fist
the way I've heard a similar statement is:
I think I got that out of Waite's Complete Book of Ceremonial Magick. Seems like a wise course to me. Maybe the way God intervenes is to give you the strength for you to complete the task at hand.
Futurama - where Bender floats into the Divinity. "You need a light touch," He says," like a safecracker." "Yeah," Bender agrees," or like a guy who burns down a bar for the insurance money." "Exactly," responds the Almighty, "if you can make it look like an electrical thing. If you do things right, it looks like you never did anything at all."
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gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 7:37:40am |
re: #457 yma o hyd a politician who divorces his wife to marry a much younger starlet trying to "hog the limelight"; say it ain't so....................
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:38:45am |
re: #496 redstateredneck
Why is it that Clarence Thomas and Alberto Gonzales had to struggle to get where they are but that wasn't an admirable attribute. Oh yeah, they're conservatives!
You know, I'm honestly getting really tired of this whole "s/he had to struggle to get where they are" nonsense.
Each person has a struggle of some sort in life. Even if someone is born with a silver spoon in his mouth and gets every benefit of high society, he will have a struggle in some other area of life.
Now you may be right in that libs don't care about struggles when the people struggling turn into conservatives. But here is what I *wish* they would say, instead:
THESE PEOPLE WORKED HARD AND WORKED THEIR WAY UP. THAT MEANS YOU CAN, TOO!
I'm so tired of people making excuses--including me.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:38:55am |
Thanks for the advice everyone....gotta run...later
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:39:37am |
re: #501 turn
there was so many typos in that turn - hey what the hey you got your message across. Hey jen if you want more on this just ask, it's a friggin annoying thing and hard to get rid of.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:39:37am |
re: #444 laZardo
Hey my friend - well same ole same ole doesn't say much other than things could be a LOT worse or a LOT better -which is it with you?!
:)
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:39:38am |
Btw - that British Neonazi party, BNP, is being investigated:
'The British National Party is facing an inquiry into its funding after its leader, Nick Griffin, paid a £5,000 political donation into his personal bank account without declaring it.
The party’s finances came under scrutiny yesterday after it declared donations with the Electoral Commission of £21,132 for the first quarter of this year. No donations were declared between March and December last year. It has pledged to spend £500,000 campaigning for next week’s European and local elections alone.'
Yep - follow the money, never fails to show up the crooks!
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
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gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 7:40:49am |
re: #464 HoosierHoops
along those lines, i got a down ding from the same guy who down dinged charles(cardimont; he was on a down ding roll last night)...........
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:41:01am |
re: #498 realwest
she is the kind of woman Republicans used to cheer for, you know?
I think Republicans do cheer for people with a similar life story, but who are... well... conservative. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree that Sotomayor looks likely to be confirmed, and is probably not the best use for rhetorical ammo for conservatives. But I don't think it hurt to get some of her warts in the spotlight, so that Obama would not simply get to sell a 100% pre-packaged success story.
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:41:02am |
re: #501 turn
Thanks turn. Sounds like it may work. Now all I have to do is find me a hubby.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:41:34am |
re: #498 realwest
There's nothing to gain by grandstanding her approval. The Dems have the votes, the repubs would look petty and whiney.
Hopefully the 2010 will bring a few more Repubs to the senate, then if Obama has another justice to pick and that one is onerous the repubs can take a stand then, with a reasonable chance of blocking a 'Ginsburg" type
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:41:42am |
re: #506 turn
there was so many typos in that turn - hey what the hey you got your message across. Hey jen if you want more on this just ask, it's a friggin annoying thing and hard to get rid of.
The podiatrist my co-worker went to told him to wear New Balance and nothing else. (Wait, that didn't sound right). And to wear them whenever he puts his feet on the floor.
| 517 |
turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:41:56am |
re: #425 HoosierHoops
Hi turn..He is a little rescue dog..A long hair Chihuahua.. Never barks and is really cool..
How are you today?
A chihuahua that doesn't bark? amazing. I'm fine, thanks. My old girlfriend had a Besingy (sp?), those dogs don't bark.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 7:42:09am |
re: #407 Kenneth
I'm not jumping on you for being an admitted liberal. After all, admitting you have a problem is the first step to a cure right? (just teasing). I was reacting to the fact you completely missed my point about the Queen not being invited. I had repeated point several times already
Forgive me-- I'm new to Lizard Nation and honestly the threads here move so fast I'm overwhelmed. ;) I was jumping on only that one post of yours (the one I initially responded to) and specifically the bit about how this slight to the Queen was being abetted or at least tolerated, if not encouraged, by Americans(i.e., Obama)-- (those are NOT the words you used, but it was the sense I took away.)
As POTUS Obama has a duty to be there. As a Canadian, I am offended that my Queen is not invited to honour those men. There was much Canadian blood spilled on those shores. The Queen is getting old and should be there.
Totally agree with you. I have some close Canadian friends and I'm personally appalled at how seldom the official histories talk about the Canadian sacrifice in WWII and also WWI. (same with Oz and NZ, actually).
Your comments about the importance of honouring these veterans is so very true and I commend you for writting about it so emphatically. On that we are 100% in agreement. We have a debt to those men and women and should never forget it.
This is why even though I am a total raving liberal, I like LGF-- there are loads of smart, well-informed, nice people here that I learn from.
You and I probably disagree on many (if not most) things, but it's really cool that we have so much in agreement and that there's this forum where we can both talk to each other with a minimum of partisan bullshit.
Thanks very much for everything you've said, for listening and for engaging. I really appreciate it.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 7:42:29am |
re: #508 yma o hyd
The BNP ran a 5 minute ad on prime time TV in the UK earlier this week. They have money to spend. It looks like there's no legal way to stop them. This is really bad.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:42:43am |
re: #470 karmic_inquisitor
WOW.
The Obama Admin appears to be targeting Republican owned dealerships for closings while sparing those whose owners contributed to him.
Un. Freaking. Real.
Every Republican who shrugs off Obama as a "once in a lifetime genius" who would have beaten any Republican party should realize that the only thing "once in a generation" is the incompetence of the Republican leadership, which allowed such a callow opportunist into office and can't seem to effectively oppose such blatant acts.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:42:49am |
re: #509 redstateredneck
Upding!
Unnecessary, but appreciated. Some day some of you are going to hear *my* life story and the struggles I had to get through. And I'll hear yours, and we'll discover that we are amazed that so many of us are doing as well as we are.
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 7:42:57am |
re: #507 realwest
Well, basically afraid to admit what that one other poster got bashed for a few days earlier, what's happening now is bad but the alternative - total economic collapse - is worse.
Other'n that, just straight down the middle.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:43:54am |
re: #497 MandyManners
Welll, this is fucked. I disconnected the printer and rebooted and got a black screen that told me to select boot device PM-ST3120215AS or PS-ATAPI DVD A DH 16A3L. I chose the former. I tried to print a document using Print option under the Office icon. No printer available. Then, "Microsoft Word has stopped working." Then, it restarted. I tried to print using the Printer icon. Then, "MicroSoft Office Word has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notifyyou if a solution is available".
The Kid has a dentist appointment in 90 minutes so I gotta' get a shower. bbiab
I'm suspecting your system has hardware problems. Either that, or a nasty virus, but it seems more likely the motherboard and or the hard drive are starting to go.
Or maybe something got installed or uninstalled and broke something else. I've seen Windows Updates cause Word to crash because of some obsolete add-on we didn't know we had.
It should automatically boot; if not, it means either the BIOS NVR (non-volatile RAM) is going or the disk didn't respond to the first boot request. Could be the hard drive (bad, because you can lose data), or the motherboard (not good but your data is probably safe) or even a disk drive cable.
If it were my system, I'd get data backed up FAST, and then first get another drive and copy everything to it. Then work on fixing the new drive.
Or just get a new drive and reinstall (you do have all the original installation CDs? I'm probably one of the few who actually do)
Or at least back up data to a USB thumb drive if it will fit, and try removing and reinstalling the printer software.
If you can't wait, did you remove (go to printers, delete the printer) and re-install the printer? If its driver got corrupted, it could crash Word when it goes to get printer information.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:44:02am |
re: #501 turn
oh and put the balls of your foot on a book and stretch out you calf muscles for 1 minute three times a day.
Also: Avoid walking barefoot like the plague (until the plantar fasciitis heals). And first thing in the morning, before getting out of bed, massage the plantar tendon area on both feet for a minute or two, to warm them up.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:44:24am |
re: #455 redstateredneck
Hey {red} *smooch* back to ya! I'm doing ok, just really dragging my butt - I simply HAVE to stay off LGF late at night - cripes I barely got 4+1/2 hours sleep last night!
How are you doing?
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:44:25am |
re: #516 redstateredneck
The podiatrist my co-worker went to told him to wear New Balance and nothing else. (Wait, that didn't sound right). And to wear them whenever he puts his feet on the floor.
I split my time between New Balance and Birkenstocks (egads, yes, I admit I wear birkenstocks). I simply cannot wear dress shoes to work, and thankfully they don't make me; I'm able to wear jeans on those days when I'm crawling under desks.
Even with the New Balance shoes, I have Birkenstock inserts inside to provide enough support.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:44:43am |
re: #519 Killgore Trout
The BNP ran a 5 minute ad on prime time TV in the UK earlier this week. They have money to spend. It looks like there's no legal way to stop them. This is really bad.
Depends. What is the raw number of Englands Muslim immigrant population that are eligible to vote!
(I know ,,, ironic, huh !)
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:45:12am |
re: #437 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 83 degrees) partly sunny Charlotte (although, as usual, heavy T-storms are predicted). How is everyone doing this morning?
Moring real. I'm so far upthread I'll never get caugt up. Something about boobs and duct tape - only at LGF!
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 7:45:20am |
re: #512 Iron Fist
Wish I had more updings to give. If more Americans understood this, we could get on with what is ahead.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:45:42am |
re: #521 realwest
HOwdy back hoss! How are ya today?
almost finished with Eric Claptons autobiography....a fun, quick read and I'm surprised how revealing it is
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:46:04am |
re: #527 vxbush
I simply cannot wear dress shoes to work
And if you must... one word: Mephisto. Pricey, but worth the money. They spare your feet, while looking good.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:46:35am |
re: #526 realwest
Hey {red} *smooch* back to ya! I'm doing ok, just really dragging my butt - I simply HAVE to stay off LGF late at night - cripes I barely got 4+1/2 hours sleep last night!
How are you doing?
4 and 1/2 hours! I've got to get my seven or I'm a real bitch.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:46:49am |
re: #464 HoosierHoops
Take the one from Charles and leave the cannoli's er, avanti! And REJOICE that you got an upding from Charles - I've been on LGF for something like 5 years now, and I've NEVER gotten an upding from Charles!
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 28, 2009 7:46:56am |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
I'm still a little leery of this story... but if it checks out, it will be quite a scandal. Banana Republic governmental tactics.
I think this smells like conspiracy theory, but I have never been able to explain why closing dealerships saves manufacturers money......so, maybe there's something to it?
I'll just keep watching for evidence.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:47:24am |
re: #529 turn
Moring real. I'm so far upthread I'll never get caugt up. Something about boobs and duct tape - only at LGF!
Reminds me of a picture Zombie took of a young woman protester who had nothing on but jeans and an "impeach Bush" bumper sticker. Guess where the bumper sticker was.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:47:34am |
re: #527 vxbush
I split my time between New Balance and Birkenstocks (egads, yes, I admit I wear birkenstocks). I simply cannot wear dress shoes to work, and thankfully they don't make me; I'm able to wear jeans on those days when I'm crawling under desks.
Even with the New Balance shoes, I have Birkenstock inserts inside to provide enough support.
With New Balance, the higher the number the greater the arch support.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:47:56am |
re: #460 Occasional Reader
DUCT tape!
By now you've read my comment - I'm not shitting that stuff worked miracles on turnwife.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 7:47:57am |
re: #532 Occasional Reader
And if you must... one word: Mephisto. Pricey, but worth the money. They spare your feet, while looking good.
Mephisto? Pricey? Have to sell your sole?
/couldn't resist
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Aye Pod Thu, May 28, 2009 7:48:05am |
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
"This is a cross-post by Shikwa from The Spittoon, a new blog where you can trade barbs with REAL LIVE MUSLIMS."
Terrible news from Pakistan this morning where another terrorist attack has caused carnage and loss of life. It’s an obvious act of retaliation from the Taliban who are currently being hammered in Swat.
Beyond the tragedy of this bombing there is an important subtext to all this.
Events like this bombing should remind ordinary Muslims - that’s you and me - who believe in the faith of Islam that we’re the primary target of these terrorists who believe in implementing their ideological and politicised version of Islam. They persecute and kill far more Muslims than anyone else.
Just look at what those animals from Taliban did to this 17 year old girl once they had control of Swat (I should warn you that the video is very, very distressing):
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:48:44am |
re: #460 Occasional Reader
oh, I see DUCT not DUCK you DICK turn
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Eowyn2 Thu, May 28, 2009 7:48:50am |
So last night I'm watching an awards show for the country music entertainer of the century and guess what? Jamie Foxx can SING. He is in the wrong business!
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:49:08am |
re: #519 Killgore Trout
The BNP ran a 5 minute ad on prime time TV in the UK earlier this week. They have money to spend. It looks like there's no legal way to stop them. This is really bad.
I agree...these people are not stupid...eventually some are more parties may have to be banned altogether and even that won't stop the inevitable...Europe is totally fucked imo
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:49:25am |
re: #470 karmic_inquisitor
Hey Kamic! C'mon now, you almost sound as if you want Obama to fail - and we can't have that now. Republicans can fail - hell some Democrats can fail, but not the One. Nuh Huh.
Besides, what kind of source is that you linked to anyway?!
/
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:49:31am |
re: #532 Occasional Reader
And if you must... one word: Mephisto. Pricey, but worth the money. They spare your feet, while looking good.
I love NB. Merrell are pretty good also. Not as expensive as Mephisto.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 7:50:07am |
re: #451 Iron Fist
While it is painful to agree with an admitted liberal (I had to review my position and reasons for it carefully) I think you have this issue, at least in this post, basically correct.
This act was a snub to the Brits, but Obama had no input or responsibiliy for it. The only practical thing he could do is politely decline his invite. I'm of mixed feelings about that. It is kind of like the UN.
I updinged you even though I don't--entirely--agree with what you said about the UN. For what it's worth, it was painful for me to agree with you too.
I also just can't see how Obama could possibly have declined. How on earth, why on earth, could a President decline to attend D-Day services at Normandy? - As liberal as I am, (and make no mistake, I AM)-- I'd be out there with torches and pitchforks myself.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:50:14am |
re: #519 Killgore Trout
The BNP ran a 5 minute ad on prime time TV in the UK earlier this week. They have money to spend. It looks like there's no legal way to stop them. This is really bad.
Of course there is no legal way to stop them - unless they are 'forbidden' by the courts.
This is a free country, so they have the right to spill their manure.
However - with all the shenanigans going on, I doubt very much that they will earn a huge success at the upcoming EU Parliament elections, one week from today.
People here are not stupid - and as one Labour activist told a journalist - the voters may say on the doorstep that they'll vote BNP, but these are the same people who can't be bothered to go out and vote, come the day.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 7:50:37am |
re: #478 1SG(ret)
Hey there Top! How the heck are you (other than removing the ignitions from all your vehicles, I mean?!)?
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:50:53am |
re: #527 vxbush
I split my time between New Balance and Birkenstocks (egads, yes, I admit I wear birkenstocks). I simply cannot wear dress shoes to work, and thankfully they don't make me; I'm able to wear jeans on those days when I'm crawling under desks.
Even with the New Balance shoes, I have Birkenstock inserts inside to provide enough support.
What are you doing crawling under desks?
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:51:00am |
re: #465 Occasional Reader
And now that I've got my language pedant thing out of my system... how the hell did you cure plantar fasciitis with duct tape?!
well good, my first response answered you second post. Morning OR.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:51:02am |
re: #537 redstateredneck
With New Balance, the higher the number the greater the arch support.
You mean model number? Really? Interesting.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:51:28am |
re: #539 Kosh's Shadow
Mephisto? Pricey? Have to sell your sole?
/couldn't resist
Mind your tongue. I might demonstrate a lace-ay faire attitude about pun threads in general, but that doesn't mean eyelet you get away with it this time. I'll not hesitate to bring you to heel, if that's what it takes.
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FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 7:51:49am |
re: #540 Jimmah
Depressing, indeed. I cannot bring myself to watch the video. The Taliban death cult assholes must be destroyed.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:52:13am |
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:53:16am |
re: #549 Ward Cleaver
What are you doing crawling under desks?
[There's a "Clinton Administration White House internship" joke in here somewhere.]
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:53:28am |
re: #549 Ward Cleaver
What are you doing crawling under desks?
Running power cords, uninterruptible power supply (desktop models), setting up computers, etc. And occasionally moving things around. Last week I had to move a big banner printer that prints 42" wide, the print server, and a few other machines around in a room so it would work better. Lots of crawling under tables that day.
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Bloodnok Thu, May 28, 2009 7:53:34am |
re: #537 redstateredneck
With New Balance, the higher the number the greater the arch support.
I didn't know that. Thanks! I just got a pair of NB and they are particularly flat (I still like them, though). I may have to buy another pair with a higher number.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:53:34am |
re: #474 yma o hyd
I love it!
But do watch out he doesn't catch them golf balls - labs can easily swallow them, and then its a trip to the vet.
Story ehre, a few sumemrs ago, was that a golf club was puzzled why they couldn't find any of their lost golf balls.
Turns out a neighbouring lab had dutifully chased them - and eaten them!
He had thirteen golf balls in his stomach - his owner got concerned when that lab lost weight, in spite of scoffing all his food and then some! Thats how they found out ...
Oh no, did he live? Yes I'm very careful not to let the boob get a golf ball, hell I even worry about tennis balls.
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FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 7:53:50am |
re: #540 Jimmah
Ordinary Muslims - that’s you and me - need to rise up against this kind of extremism now more than ever. And we have to be unequivocal in our condemnation of Islamists and the terrorism they promote whether its in Lahore or London, Jakarta or Jerusalem. It’s all the same thing - and we have to stand against it.
It's about time. More please.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:54:06am |
re: #553 FrogMarch
Depressing, indeed. I cannot bring myself to watch the video. The Taliban death cult assholes must be destroyed.
who will occupy Afghanistan?...the Taliban are not going away
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:54:08am |
re: #554 redstateredneck
Yep.
And as the model numbers go up, so does the price. I usually buy ones in the 500s and 600s.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:54:12am |
re: #534 realwest
Take the one from Charles and leave the cannoli's er, avanti! And REJOICE that you got an upding from Charles - I've been on LGF for something like 5 years now, and I've NEVER gotten an upding from Charles!
Hiya, {rw}!
Sorry to hear you had such a short night last night!
LGF is highly addictive, as many can attest!
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irish rose Thu, May 28, 2009 7:54:35am |
Good morning lizards, how's everyone?
I'm afraid that I've been out the loop the last few days, driven to distraction and exhaustion by a rebellious 17 year old who is engaging in dangerous and self-destructive behaviors.
Today is the first peaceful day that I've had since Monday, and I'm badly in need of some downtime with friends.
Did I miss anything interesting?
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Aye Pod Thu, May 28, 2009 7:54:54am |
Harun Yahya(Adnan Oktar) goes nuts over Ida.
[Link: us2.harunyahya.com...]
We can only guess as to what point he thinks he is making with this idiotic picture:
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 7:55:00am |
Nice buttons for the lefty Che admirer you know.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:55:22am |
I used to wear New Balance, and think they make great shoes; but since I overpronate when running, I was advised to switch to Asics.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 28, 2009 7:55:38am |
Hoosier & Kosh ... Thanks for the dings on #374 ... I was hoping to get some responses to the question I asked, but nobody was interested.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 7:55:47am |
re: #563 irish rose
Mandy's printer went Tango Uniform. (broke)
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laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 7:55:49am |
re: #524 Kosh's Shadow
*studiously taking notes from a master*
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:56:04am |
re: #476 vxbush
Details, please! I'd like to know how. I have issues.
Well, we all knew that....
ha, I didn't know there would be that many people curious about this. I'll go google this and see if I can find that site again (now that OR taught me how to spell not only duct tape but plantar fasciitis as well)
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:56:26am |
re: #556 vxbush
Running power cords, uninterruptible power supply (desktop models), setting up computers, etc. And occasionally moving things around. Last week I had to move a big banner printer that prints 42" wide, the print server, and a few other machines around in a room so it would work better. Lots of crawling under tables that day.
I always seem to be wearing my navy slacks on the day I have to crawl under a desk in my lab (usually to reset a surge protector that has tripped). I hate it when that happens. Have you been deploying Vista, or are doing like we are (skipping over Vista, and going to 7)?
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 7:56:42am |
Oh! BIG NEWS:
I found out one of the local pizza joints (not a national chain) actually makes a gluten-free pizza! I think I may just have to visit them this weekend!
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:01am |
re: #565 rightside
Nice buttons for the lefty Che admirer you know.
he was a proud freedom fighter just making omelettes
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KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:08am |
re: #554 redstateredneck
Yep.
Sierratradingpost.com has really good deals on New Balance, Teva, etc. Sometimes more than half off. I've had really good luck with them. great return policy also.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:17am |
re: #558 turn
Oh no, did he live? Yes I'm very careful not to let the boob get a golf ball, hell I even worry about tennis balls.
Oh yes - he was fine, just p*ssed off having to wear that lampshade.
That really annoys labs - I know one, he's lovely, a chocolate one - his latest exploit was to search for the well hidden dishcloth, and eat it. He had to wear that lampshade as well, after the vet had fixed him ...
Still - better to keep Luke away from golf balls.
Mind - HH's Winston might like them - they'd be just his size!
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:20am |
re: #557 Bloodnok
I didn't know that. Thanks! I just got a pair of NB and they are particularly flat (I still like them, though). I may have to buy another pair with a higher number.
Actually:
Generally speaking, the higher the number, the more technology there is featured in the shoe. This does not necessarily mean that the highest number is the best shoe for everyone. The shoes are all listed on the website, with the technology features that are included in each style.
But technology = support in most cases.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:31am |
re: #566 Occasional Reader
I used to wear New Balance, and think they make great shoes; but since I overpronate when running, I was advised to switch to Asics.
The higher number NBs (800s and 900s) offer more overpronation features.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:32am |
re: #565 rightside
Nice buttons for the lefty Che admirer you know.
OR could use a few of those the next time he makes a trip down to Buenos Aires.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 7:57:52am |
re: #565 rightside
Nice buttons for the lefty Che admirer you know.
Perfect. I'm going to have to make some, since $8 for a button is ridiculous.
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 7:58:41am |
re: #524 Kosh's Shadow
If you can't wait, did you remove (go to printers, delete the printer) and re-install the printer? If its driver got corrupted, it could crash Word when it goes to get printer information.
This is when Word crashes.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 7:58:52am |
re: #561 Ward Cleaver
And as the model numbers go up, so does the price. I usually buy ones in the 500s and 600s.
I just bought a new pair of running shoes (although I walk fast instead of run) and not only do they have great support, they are light as a feather. Kind of funky looking, though. White, orange and silver.
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 7:58:56am |
re: #548 realwest
Doing fairly well. Back up to about 90%, working to get back to 100%. My old Dad told me many years ago that if you learn to drive a truck first (with a trailer) you are set for life. So the boy got my truck. Good news thought, now I get a newer/bigger one. Screw the gas/diesel prices! Hope all is well with you my friend!
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 28, 2009 7:59:22am |
re: #547 yma o hyd
Of course there is no legal way to stop them - unless they are 'forbidden' by the courts.
This is a free country, so they have the right to spill their manure.However - with all the shenanigans going on, I doubt very much that they will earn a huge success at the upcoming EU Parliament elections, one week from today.
People here are not stupid - and as one Labour activist told a journalist - the voters may say on the doorstep that they'll vote BNP, but these are the same people who can't be bothered to go out and vote, come the day.
To believe that groups such as BNP, Vlaams Belang, Ron Paul, will gain so much traction to have a major impact on politics in a democratic country, is to believe in the inherent racism and hate of the electorate. I'm not there yet.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 7:59:23am |
re: #579 MrSilverDragon
Perfect. I'm going to have to make some, since $8 for a button is ridiculous.
I think at the bottom of the page it says $2.15 + $0.30 shipping in the US.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 7:59:26am |
re: #501 turn
hey OR, I used both spellings in that post, so there. ha!
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 7:59:30am |
re: #540 Jimmah
From your linked post:
Beyond the tragedy of this bombing there is an important subtext to all this.
Events like this bombing should remind ordinary Muslims - that’s you and me - who believe in the faith of Islam that we’re the primary target of these terrorists who believe in implementing their ideological and politicised version of Islam. They persecute and kill far more Muslims than anyone else.
In a way, I can certainly say this author's attitude is a step in the right (and glaringly obvious) direction. But it's still depressing that the point has to be sold as "we should resist them, because they're targeting Muslims." And if that poor girl had been Hindu or Jewish or atheist?
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 28, 2009 8:00:08am |
re: #576 redstateredneck
But technology = support in most cases.
Their warranty is pretty good. I'm returning some 9-month-old 603 walkers, where one of the mesh areas is starting to pull open at the edge. The only problem is, the 603 is discontinued, so I have to choose another model. I really like the 603. Maybe I'll get the new ones, sell them on Craigslist, and buy some more 603s locally, since they're still in the stores.
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rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 8:00:18am |
Speaking of che, has anyone read this book? Seems like $10 would be good deal.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:00:36am |
re: #567 _RememberTonyC
Hoosier & Kosh ... Thanks for the dings on #374 ... I was hoping to get some responses to the question I asked, but nobody was interested.
I wasn't here for your 374. Went back and read it. Yes, i would LOVE if Obama was that open and direct, but when has he ever given a speech like that. He WILL say how the Egyptians have a long and valued history,,, the begginings of civilization ,,,, many important engineering firsts,,,blah blah.
He will NOT "tell" them they must play nice
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:00:49am |
re: #585 turn
hey OR, I used both spellings in that post, so there. ha!
Between you and I, for all intensive purposes you're begging the question "will OR go into full language-pedant meltdown?".
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 28, 2009 8:00:59am |
re: #537 redstateredneck
With New Balance, the higher the number the greater the arch support.
Now that's an interesting fact.
I love New Balance, but noticed that I tend to buy shoes in a certain range of numbers because those are the ones that are most comfortable for me when I try them on.
Now I know why.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:01:06am |
re: #571 Ward Cleaver
I always seem to be wearing my navy slacks on the day I have to crawl under a desk in my lab (usually to reset a surge protector that has tripped). I hate it when that happens. Have you been deploying Vista, or are doing like we are (skipping over Vista, and going to 7)?
We have older PCs in our department for several reasons I won't get into, so we have completely avoided Vista except on the one or two machines we've purchased new. (Most of the machines I'm getting used from other departments.) I was hoping I'd have enough free time this summer to play with 7 and decide if it can run on our existing equipment, but I may hear some squabbling from some in the department who are in the "if it's not broke, don't fix it" camp.
I don't mind Vista, but most of the OS is gloss. That's why I want to play with 7 first. I don't expect it to be that great, either, but it does sound better than Vista.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:01:29am |
re: #572 vxbush
Oh! BIG NEWS:
I found out one of the local pizza joints (not a national chain) actually makes a gluten-free pizza! I think I may just have to visit them this weekend!
Yeah, we texans have something like that, too. We call it queso.
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Macker Thu, May 28, 2009 8:01:35am |
Good Morning Lizards. Last night, my son sent me a message on Facebook: "u r garbage"
That’s it.
He obviously tried to goad me into responding, and I won’t do it. I reported him for violation of their Terms of Service. At the very least, I’ve got him blocked and I have asked all my friends to do the same, should he try to connect with them.
God, that was a very hard thing to do because I still love him. One would think that he would have grown up a bit since he and his mother got furious at me for moving to AZ, but apparently not. Considering he quit school when he was 15, at least he has a job, and that’s important.
Being a single parent and not being able to have a good relationship with my son is very hard on me. Thank God the Lady E is helping me through this.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:02:09am |
re: #513 Occasional Reader
I think Republicans do cheer for people with a similar life story, but who are... well... conservative. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree that Sotomayor looks likely to be confirmed, and is probably not the best use for rhetorical ammo for conservatives. But I don't think it hurt to get some of her warts in the spotlight, so that Obama would not simply get to sell a 100% pre-packaged success story.
Hey O.r. Good morning to you. I agree that she should be asked the right questions about some of the things that folks out here -well, some folks out here, anyway, have been asking about her. No two ways about it and the firefighter's case is VERY troubling to me cause she said she was following precedent previously set by the 2nd Circuit when her fellow judge. Calderone said there was no precedent in the 2nd Circuit - that definitely raises some legal eyebrows. And frankly, as I've said before, discrimination against someone because of their skin color is simply wrong - morally and contitutionally WRONG - no matter what the justificiation for it may be and SHE should have known that and if there isn't any precedent, that's the kind of thing that could bring the water to a boil.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:02:10am |
re: #514 KenJen
Thanks turn. Sounds like it may work. Now all I have to do is find me a hubby.
Sorry just assumed, well you can do it yourself - it's just easier if someone else does it for ya.
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irish rose Thu, May 28, 2009 8:02:14am |
re: #572 vxbush
Oh! BIG NEWS:
I found out one of the local pizza joints (not a national chain) actually makes a gluten-free pizza! I think I may just have to visit them this weekend!
Also in the good foodie news: there's a Mediterranean deli opening up down at the end of my street. Tabouleh, hummous, stuffed leaves, falafel, gyros... you name it they've got it, and all homemade from scratch. They take my debit card and I can walk to their location in less than five minutes... and they also deliver.
Gonna be a good summer.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:02:19am |
re: #580 MandyManners
This is when Word crashes.
Word is a Virus, you know. Burroughs said so, and was right, even if he was talking about the future, and meant it in a different context.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 8:02:55am |
re: #584 bosforus
I think at the bottom of the page it says $2.15 + $0.30 shipping in the US.
The $2.15 is the shipping, or $0.30 if shipped with something else.
So, $10.15 or $8.30 is still too high for my tastes. But, I give credit to the creator for the idea. :)
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 8:03:01am |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
Buchanan gets a lot of face time on TV these days but I don't see his influence increasing like Ron Paul. If Buchanan starts becoming more influential we're in very serious trouble.
PB peaked in terms of influence when he gave the 92 speech at the RNC. The famous culture war speech. I was young and it scared the crap out of me.
In fact, I remember the McLaughlin Group episode where John McLaughlin said "welcome back Pat, your rosary and your machine gun are right under your seat."
It's bizarre and frightening that Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh are getting as much attention as they are right now. Also Dick cheney. We've heard way more more Cheney in the last month or two than we did in years. I don't think these people should be the face of the GOP.
(N.B.: I am a liberal, but i think America and all democracies need two vibrant parties--at least-- and the GOP sadly is not one right now.)
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:03:09am |
re: #595 unreconstructed rebel
Testing
FAIL ,, sorry ,, you'll have to re-take French during summer school !
((oh,,,no ,, wait , that was me! ))
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 8:03:22am |
re: #555 Occasional Reader
[There's a "Clinton Administration White House internship" joke in here somewhere.]
That's just lewdinsky, OR.
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Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:03:27am |
re: #580 MandyManners
This is when Word crashes.
This is the way the Word ends/
This is the way the Word ends/
This is the way the Word ends,
Not with a bang, but with a print spooler error.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 8:03:37am |
re: #603 MrSilverDragon
The $2.15 is the shipping, or $0.30 if shipped with something else.
So, $10.15 or $8.30 is still too high for my tastes. But, I give credit to the creator for the idea. :)
Oh, guess I didn't understand. Me no read good sometimes.
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gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 8:03:42am |
re: #508 yma o hyd seems like their current fundraising is down; i guess that is what happens when the leader pockets around 25% or more of the take
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 8:04:08am |
re: #493 albusteve
like Jammie said...a hack is a hack...BO is putting lipstick on a pig again
THe ABA lists Her membership in La Raza on her Bio.
Imagine if Bush had sent up a nominee that belonged to the John Birch Society.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 8:04:18am |
re: #598 Macker
Sorry he did that to you. That's a conversation that should take place in private and not out on the internet for all the world to see.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 8:05:13am |
re: #608 bosforus
Oh, guess I didn't understand. Me no read good sometimes.
Actually, I missed the grab bag for a dozen part, so clearly I have a lacking going on too. I R not smrt somedaze.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, May 28, 2009 8:05:14am |
re: #589 sattv4u2
I wasn't here for your 374. Went back and read it. Yes, i would LOVE if Obama was that open and direct, but when has he ever given a speech like that. He WILL say how the Egyptians have a long and valued history,,, the begginings of civilization ,,,, many important engineering firsts,,,blah blah.
He will NOT "tell" them they must play nice
Thanks "Sat" ... He can say all the stuff you said as well as the message I suggested. In fact, he SHOULD start out in a conciliatory tone. But given his opposition to the Iraq war, his well known GITMO stance, and his other words of conciliation towards iran, he actually HAS a certain moral authority and possible "arab street cred." He is JUST the person to deliver that "play nice" message.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:05:25am |
re: #516 redstateredneck
The podiatrist my co-worker went to told him to wear New Balance and nothing else. (Wait, that didn't sound right). And to wear them whenever he puts his feet on the floor.
Yes the right shoes are a must and loosing weight is important too. Not all people who get this are overweight but the majority are. The weight actually changes the gate of your walk which puts additional pressure on the tendon. That is what the book thing does, stretches the calf muscle that gets lazy because of the change in gate.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 8:05:28am |
In the thread last night, the "We're ALL RINOs now." Charles posted...
Looks like there’s not going to be a fight to the finish over Sonia Sotomayor: Sonia Sotomayor ‘fight’ could fizzle.
Top Senate Republican strategists tell POLITICO that, barring unknown facts about Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the GOP plans no scorched-earth opposition to her confirmation as a Supreme Court justice.
More than 24 hours after the White House unveiling, no senator has come out in opposition to Sotomayor’s confirmation.
“The sentiment is overwhelming that the Senate should do due diligence but should not make a mountain out of a molehill,” said a top Senate Republican aide. “If there’s no ‘there’ there, we shouldn’t try to create one.”
And further down in the thread, Charles commented...
re: #5 Charles
I'm definitely not going to say, "I told you so." Nope. Not gonna say it.
This has nothing to do with whether there is really something to fight about, it's has everything to do with the fact that the Republicans have been totally missing from the political process since Obama was elected.
As I said last night, in regards to if they will fight this nomination...
re: #388 Walter L. Newton
Considering how uninspiring most conservative politician have been lately, we can only hope. May not happen.
No senator has come out against the nomination, but that has nothing to do with her qualifications, it has to do with the fact that the conservative party is out to lunch.
It's no wonder Rush Limbaugh (who I can't stand, nor do I agree with), it's no wonder that he is trying to fill the vacuum with his rhetoric and big mouth.
This is in no way a matter of "I told you so." It has everything to do with worthless conservative leaders. Too bad for us.
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 8:05:45am |
re: #534 realwest
Take the one from Charles and leave the cannoli's er, avanti! And REJOICE that you got an upding from Charles - I've been on LGF for something like 5 years now, and I've NEVER gotten an upding from Charles!
It was the highest high..Then 5 minutes later Avanti dinged..
*falling to knees*
God what did I do to deserve this?
LOL
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:05:51am |
re: #610 opnion
THe ABA lists Her membership in La Raza on her Bio.
Don't worry, "La Raza" is correctly translated as "peaceful, internal struggle."
//
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 8:06:00am |
re: #612 MrSilverDragon
Actually, I missed the grab bag for a dozen part, so clearly I have a lacking going on too. I R not smrt somedaze.
If we were both confused it must be the website's fault.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:06:03am |
re: #580 MandyManners
This is when Word crashes.
That's why I think it could just be related to a printer driver corruption.
Did you delete the printers from the Printers list?
And re-install the printer driver? (One reason to get the latest version is I've seen Word crash with some add-ons after various Word updates.)
Then, the question is, why did the driver get corrupted? Sometimes, it just happens (blame it on Microsoft). Other times, there is a reason, like other corrupted software, disk starting to fail, or other disk inconsistencies (check disk will fix those).
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Aye Pod Thu, May 28, 2009 8:06:22am |
re: #559 FrogMarch
It's about time. More please.
A few years ago, sites like this run by genuinely moderate muslims were hard to find. They're popping up all over the place now. Also, just a few years ago, the standard line from Islamists regarding muslim apostates was that they simply didn't exist - they were all made up characters or secret Jewish provocateurs. They don't even try with these sort of denials anymore. Many more muslims seem to be getting involved in popular culture as well. Things are changing - for the better.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:06:36am |
re: #614 turn
Yes the right shoes are a must and loosing weight is important too. Not all people who get this are overweight but the majority are. The weight actually changes the gate of your walk which puts additional pressure on the tendon. That is what the book thing does, stretches the calf muscle that gets lazy because of the change in gate.
Now you're just taunting me, aren't you?!
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 8:06:37am |
re: #512 Iron Fist
Morale wins (or loses) many battles. The object goal in strategic warfare is to completely demoralize the enemy so that he surrenders rather than fight on. Troops with good morale can work miracles on the battlefield (especially troops has highly trained as our troops are), but if their morale tanks, and they feel they are just being fed into the meatgrinder to score political points for the boss, well, don't expect any miraculous victories.
That's exactly right. Our troops are disciplined, but not robots.
Morale is crucial.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:07:25am |
re: #520 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward! I received an e-mail about this car dealership thing from a former LGFer and the basis for it was the Doug Ross blog that you linked to. I'm sure Doug Ross is a neo-nazi or Paulian or somesuch. Don't get too excited over it. After all,President Obama is President of ALL the American people and he'd never do anything so,so.........Chicago style politics as redistriubuting the wealth that way.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 8:07:33am |
re: #623 Occasional Reader
Now you're just taunting me, aren't you?!
Some things you just have to let go!
:D
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:08:07am |
re: #581 redstateredneck
I just bought a new pair of running shoes (although I walk fast instead of run) and not only do they have great support, they are light as a feather. Kind of funky looking, though. White, orange and silver.
I buy mostly Rockports, because there is an outlet store near me, and they last. I'll go through cheap shoes in a year, but still have some Rockports from 8 or 9 years ago. (Although I stopped wearing them much about 4 years ago).
They aren't dress, but they look fine, and use Reebok technology.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:08:23am |
re: #604 iceweasel
PB peaked in terms of influence when he gave the 92 speech at the RNC. The famous culture war speech. I was young and it scared the crap out of me.
In fact, I remember the McLaughlin Group episode where John McLaughlin said "welcome back Pat, your rosary and your machine gun are right under your seat."
It's bizarre and frightening that Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh are getting as much attention as they are right now. Also Dick cheney. We've heard way more more Cheney in the last month or two than we did in years. I don't think these people should be the face of the GOP.
(N.B.: I am a liberal, but i think America and all democracies need two vibrant parties--at least-- and the GOP sadly is not one right now.)
Newt and Cheney tell the truth....why do liberals have such trouble with the truth?...because they expose liberal insanity?
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:08:27am |
Stock Market starting to stabilize
Housing Market starting to rebound
Less "new" unemployment claims than expected
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
Can we NOW start putting pressure on these hacks to NOT spend the "stimulus money" thats slated for 2010 and 2011
The HELL with trying to fight against a nomination of a judge that is a fait acompli to pass
Oh ,,, Look ,, Shiney things !
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:08:49am |
re: #583 Russkilitlover
To believe that groups such as BNP, Vlaams Belang, Ron Paul, will gain so much traction to have a major impact on politics in a democratic country, is to believe in the inherent racism and hate of the electorate. I'm not there yet.
No - nor me neither!
I'll wait for the results of the June 4th election to the European parliament before I start to believe that.
IMHO, NuLab, seeing their party go down the drain thanks to Gord and thanks to the fraudulent behaviour of their MPs, set this hare running, and thus are playing into the BNP's hands.
One doesn't wail about the baddies - one's gotta try and do better than them, to minimise their impact.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:08:58am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 8:09:09am |
re: #604 iceweasel
PB peaked in terms of influence when he gave the 92 speech at the RNC. The famous culture war speech. I was young and it scared the crap out of me.
In fact, I remember the McLaughlin Group episode where John McLaughlin said "welcome back Pat, your rosary and your machine gun are right under your seat."
It's bizarre and frightening that Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh are getting as much attention as they are right now. Also Dick cheney. We've heard way more more Cheney in the last month or two than we did in years. I don't think these people should be the face of the GOP.
(N.B.: I am a liberal, but i think America and all democracies need two vibrant parties--at least-- and the GOP sadly is not one right now.)
Buchanan indeed should not be seen as the face of anything other than bigotry. Dick Cheney on the other hand is a valuable leader the GOP is lucky to have. His views are rational and he worked hard to keep us safe. Republicans should be proud to follow him.
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Athens Runaway Thu, May 28, 2009 8:09:16am |
re: #617 Occasional Reader
Don't worry, "La Raza" is correctly translated as "peaceful, internal struggle."
//
Ha!
For what it's worth, "La Raza" is Spanish for "The Race." I'm sure they're an Equal-Opportunity Employer, though. //
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Eowyn2 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:09:30am |
re: #504 vxbush
You know, I'm honestly getting really tired of this whole "s/he had to struggle to get where they are" nonsense.
Each person has a struggle of some sort in life. Even if someone is born with a silver spoon in his mouth and gets every benefit of high society, he will have a struggle in some other area of life.
Now you may be right in that libs don't care about struggles when the people struggling turn into conservatives. But here is what I *wish* they would say, instead:
THESE PEOPLE WORKED HARD AND WORKED THEIR WAY UP. THAT MEANS YOU CAN, TOO!
I'm so tired of people making excuses--including me.
I work hard and I'm just tired! I will probably never be re-tired since I can't afford to ever quit my job.
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gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 8:09:40am |
re: #598 Macker
not my business but perhaps you should leave some lines open here(you are the adult)
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:09:46am |
re: #531 albusteve Huh, I didn't even know he'd written his autobiography!
What are some of the more surprisingly candid moments he reveals?
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 8:09:54am |
re: #620 Kosh's Shadow
That's why I think it could just be related to a printer driver corruption.
Did you delete the printers from the Printers list?
And re-install the printer driver? (One reason to get the latest version is I've seen Word crash with some add-ons after various Word updates.)Then, the question is, why did the driver get corrupted? Sometimes, it just happens (blame it on Microsoft). Other times, there is a reason, like other corrupted software, disk starting to fail, or other disk inconsistencies (check disk will fix those).
I deleted the OneNote Notebook 2007 printer. Should I delete all?
I am in over my head. Maybe they should not sell computers to idiots.
Oh, who am I kidding?! I blame myself for not knowing what I'm doing, for not knowing the terminology.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:10:05am |
re: #610 opnion
THe ABA lists Her membership in La Raza on her Bio.
Imagine if Bush had sent up a nominee that belonged to the John Birch Society.
she's poison...and once again everyone is playing politics with a most important position....BO can't pick his nose let alone a SC nominee...he cannot be trusted and neither can she
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irish rose Thu, May 28, 2009 8:10:32am |
re: #607 Guanxi88
This is the way the Word ends/
This is the way the Word ends/
This is the way the Word ends,
Not with a bang, but with a print spooler error.
I have an HP All-In-One that is having print spooler issues.
I'm just about ready to take a hammer to the damned thing and be done with it.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:10:44am |
re: #525 Occasional Reader
Also: Avoid walking barefoot like the plague (until the plantar fasciitis heals). And first thing in the morning, before getting out of bed, massage the plantar tendon area on both feet for a minute or two, to warm them up.
dang OR, is there anything you don't know something about? Yes, reach your feet down to the end of the mattress and pull the top side of your foot against the end of the mattress and stretch several times before you get up.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:10:59am |
re: #630 sattv4u2
Can we NOW start putting pressure on these hacks to NOT spend the "stimulus money" thats slated for 2010 and 2011
And maybe point them at the T-bill spreads as a further indication of why it's time to stop shoveling money out the doors of helicopters?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 28, 2009 8:11:26am |
re: #520 Ward Cleaver
Well the stats are interesting.
This is a simple and relatively easy matter to prove.
One has to compare the rate of contributions to Republicans and Democrats for all dealers and compare that to the rate of contributions by those closed. A statistically significant deviation between the two rates of contribution is enough to prove out the bias.
There are public records of contributions and public records of dealership ownership, so one can sample close to 100% of the population, which virtually eliminates uncertainty.
This is precisely the same method used to nail employers for discriminatory hiring practices. I wonder what judge Sotomayor would think of such a methodology.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 8:11:42am |
Glenn Rynolds is pushing another bogus story about gun owners being declared terrorists.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 8:11:57am |
re: #642 turn
dang OR, is there anything you don't know something about? Yes, reach your feet down to the end of the mattress and pull the top side of your foot against the end of the mattress and stretch several times before you get up.
If you did that in my bed and untucked the top sheet I'd throw your ass out!
Another pet peeve.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 8:12:12am |
re: #617 Occasional Reader
Don't worry, "La Raza" is correctly translated as "peaceful, internal struggle."
//
After the little discussion last night, you managed to sum up the multiple long winded comments (mostly mine) in that one wonderful sentence, which I will be remembering and using when needed in the near future.
As I said yesterday, I don't want Sotomayor to fail, I don't want her to even get anywhere near the Supreme Court bench.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:12:24am |
re: #634 Athens Runaway
Ha!
For what it's worth, "La Raza" is Spanish for "The Race." I'm sure they're an Equal-Opportunity Employer, though. //
Yes, we had a rather extensive discussion of this in a thread last night; NCLR disigenuously claims that the terms is "mistranslated" as "the race". Another lizard (I don't recall who) pointed out the similarity to CAIR's smiley-face "translation" of jihad.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:12:37am |
re: #609 gtrs
seems like their current fundraising is down; i guess that is what happens when the leader pockets around 25% or more of the take
There also seem to be other thigns they haven't done which they ought to have done - like filing their alst audit.
Yeah, bad things happen once the audit people have you in their sight!
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:12:45am |
re: #540 Jimmah
Whoa Jimmah - interesting link and comment, of course. Wonder what the other commenters have said (other than issuing a Fatwah on that commenter, I mean!).
Great pick up - seriously!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:12:50am |
re: #632 Occasional Reader
Aren't those the brand Fred Flinstone wore?
I don't think any came in his size. Either that, or they wore off when he was stopping his car. (How did he steer that thing?)
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:12:52am |
re: #536 Kosh's Shadow
Reminds me of a picture Zombie took of a young woman protester who had nothing on but jeans and an "impeach Bush" bumper sticker. Guess where the bumper sticker was.
across her boobs. Hey kosh, if you got time a link to that would be cool.
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 8:13:16am |
Michelle is still pushing the story about Obama closing Republican car dealerships.
Too much crazy.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:13:30am |
re: #647 Walter L. Newton
After the little discussion last night, you managed to sum up the multiple long winded comments (mostly mine) in that one wonderful sentence
Thanks... although as noted, it was someone else last night who first came up with the "jihad" comparison.
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opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 8:13:35am |
re: #617 Occasional Reader
Don't worry, "La Raza" is correctly translated as "peaceful, internal struggle."
//
It doesn't mean Fiesta?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:02am |
re: #645 Killgore Trout
Glenn Rynolds is pushing another bogus story about gun owners being declared terrorists.
Link, please.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:16am |
re: #638 realwest
Huh, I didn't even know he'd written his autobiography!
What are some of the more surprisingly candid moments he reveals?
his addictions and his twisted infatuation with Patty Harrison....he is very humble with regard to his music as well...he speaks very highly of lesser known associates and folks around him back in the day...Delaney Bramlett for example...Jim Gordon etc
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:25am |
re: #646 redstateredneck
If you did that in my bed and untucked the top sheet I'd throw your ass out!
Another pet peeve.
Heh. I never tuck my top sheet in. My feet need freedom!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:33am |
re: #639 MandyManners
I deleted the OneNote Notebook 2007 printer. Should I delete all?
I am in over my head. Maybe they should not sell computers to idiots.
Oh, who am I kidding?! I blame myself for not knowing what I'm doing, for not knowing the terminology.
Yes, delete all of the printers (or at least all the HP ones). First, unplug the printer, though. Then download and re-install the driver (because if it is corrupt, the same thing will happen later.)
Then re-connect the printer.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:44am |
re: #655 Occasional Reader
Thanks... although as noted, it was someone else last night who first came up with the "jihad" comparison.
I know someone else did, but you sort of combined the two thoughts into one neat phrase.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:53am |
re: #615 Walter L. Newton
It has everything to do with worthless conservative leaders.
Problem is, there aren't any just now & I don't see one on the horizon yet. Your run-of-the-mill republican congress-crittur is known neither for principle nor bravery unless inspired by a leader with some vision. (That could be true for the average Dem as well.)
I had hoped Rudy would take up the banner but he came off as disinterested. Newt has the smarts, but he has baggage & the republican rank & file hung him out to dry when it mattered.
I share your frustration.
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Macker Thu, May 28, 2009 8:14:57am |
re: #637 gtrs
not my business but perhaps you should leave some lines open here(you are the adult)
Yes, I AM the adult. and AS the adult, I have every right to protect myself from harassment and mental abuse. Which is what he and his 58-year-old mother have done with me for the last twenty years. I've got recordings of their rantings over the phone. My ex also sat me down back in 2001 and proceeded to call every girlfriend I've had a whore. AND she still considers me her husband!
If that's not fucking sick, I don't know what is. I'm not doing anything wrong. They are.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:15:25am |
re: #562 yma o hyd
Hey good afternoon {Yma} well I'm not even gonna get on LGF tonight -it is too addicting! And I GOTTA get some sleep other than in front of the TV after dinner! LOL!
| 666 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:15:36am |
re: #653 Killgore Trout
Michelle is still pushing the story about Obama closing Republican car dealerships.
Too much crazy.
Um... that story is getting traction, in fact, including a mention in Taranto's column yesterday.
Doesn't mean it'll pan out, but it's not just some wingnut story, either.
| 667 |
KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 8:15:43am |
re: #646 redstateredneck
If you did that in my bed and untucked the top sheet I'd throw your ass out!
Another pet peeve.
Me too. Hospital corners always.
| 668 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:15:47am |
re: #653 Killgore Trout
Michelle is still pushing the story about Obama closing Republican car dealerships.
Too much crazy.
But she is being careful: if you read the articles, you will note that she is saying, "We don't know for sure this is what is going on. More research is needed."
| 669 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 8:16:01am |
re: #604 iceweasel
in my opinion, buchanan is influential in the same regard as ron paul is influential; buchanan has a certain "niche" of loons that take his word as gospel
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redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 8:16:06am |
re: #659 vxbush
Heh. I never tuck my top sheet in. My feet need freedom!
I stick mine out the side to control my body temp!
| 672 |
rightside Thu, May 28, 2009 8:16:21am |
re: #663 unreconstructed rebel
Well said, I share in it too.
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sattv4u2 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:16:35am |
Ah well. As I sit here looking out the back window, the "lawn" is almost up to the windows on one of my cars. All the rain we've had here coupled with a few bursts of sun has made things grow here like the Land That Time Lost.
Guess I'll go for a ride and mow!
Later all
| 674 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:16:40am |
re: #661 Walter L. Newton
I know someone else did, but you sort of combined the two thoughts into one neat phrase.
I am a bloody genius, come to think of it.
| 675 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 28, 2009 8:16:48am |
Some are now speculating that GM is in the process of milking the US taxpayer for all it can, and then it will proceed to shut down more plants and shift the remaining production and jobs from the US to China.
I do not know whether this is in the cards, but I can see Obama taking advantage of this fear of an outsourcing orgy to justify a total takeover and nationalization of GM.
| 676 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 8:17:13am |
re: #615 Walter L. Newton
The GOP can start rebuilding its image not by obstructing, but asking pointed questions of Sotomayor on her judicial philosophy. There wont be fireworks, and while they can ask direct questions about how she'd rule on abortion, gay marriage, or military detentions, they would get the stock answers that all nominees have given since Ginsberg - which is to say that they wouldn't say what they would do under the circumstances.
However, they should ask questions about judicial philosophy - on judicial activism, interpretation and stare decisis and importance of precedence. How comfortable is she in overturning existing law on issues. What is the role of the judge - to impose policy from the bench, or interpret law strictly.
I'd expect many a nuanced answers, but those are questions that have to be asked. It's up to the Judicial Committee to make sure the nation knows what we're getting.
| 677 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:17:24am |
re: #641 irish rose
I have an HP All-In-One that is having print spooler issues.
I'm just about ready to take a hammer to the damned thing and be done with it.
I use Canon printers, mostly. I generally don't have a problem, although multiple copies of the printer did show up, probably because it is a networked printer (MP 620 multifunction) and I didn't set the IP address. If it changes, the computer sees it as a new printer.
I use this because it works with both Windows and Mac, and at the same time. I don't need to disconnect and reconnect the printer; the computers connect as needed. And it gives me a scanner that works with the Windows and Mac systems as well.
But keep buying HP. I own a few shares of their stock.
| 678 |
opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 8:17:31am |
re: #640 albusteve
she's poison...and once again everyone is playing politics with a most important position....BO can't pick his nose let alone a SC nominee...he cannot be trusted and neither can she
I think that the Republicans have determined that this is a fight that they can't when & could get really damaged.
The idea that Obama wants Supreme Court Justices to view cases through the prisim of their own experience is wrong on several levels, but elections have consequences.
| 679 |
Athens Runaway Thu, May 28, 2009 8:17:38am |
One thing that everyone forgets about Senate/House numbers is that a good number of the Democratic Party CAN be convinced, it just takes the will to argue. They're called "Blue Dog Democrats," the ones that represent red areas. Their voters are probably itching for the right reason to vote them out, but the positives still outweigh the negatives for doing so. The Blue Dogs will vote in the GOP's favor if it's made clear that it's in their best interests to do so (i.e. getting re-elected, popularity polls, etc.)
Defeatist attitudes lead to defeat.
| 680 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:17:40am |
re: #653 Killgore Trout
Michelle is still pushing the story about Obama closing Republican car dealerships.
Too much crazy.
it may be true...what about giving it some time...do you seriously believe he is above such a despicable strategy?
| 681 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 8:18:15am |
re: #598 Macker
Good Morning Lizards. Last night, my son sent me a message on Facebook: "u r garbage"
That’s it.
He obviously tried to goad me into responding, and I won’t do it. I reported him for violation of their Terms of Service. At the very least, I’ve got him blocked and I have asked all my friends to do the same, should he try to connect with them.
God, that was a very hard thing to do because I still love him. One would think that he would have grown up a bit since he and his mother got furious at me for moving to AZ, but apparently not. Considering he quit school when he was 15, at least he has a job, and that’s important.
Being a single parent and not being able to have a good relationship with my son is very hard on me. Thank God the Lady E is helping me through this.
I don't know you and I don't know the backstory at all, but I have known some parents who had to take very tough-love approaches with troubled kids. The problem is it always hurts you as the parent because you always love them, even when they're behaving in unjustifiable ways.
I'm really sorry and I hope things work out for you. Total stranger who will keep you in her thoughts, here. Good luck.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:18:15am |
re: #665 realwest
Hey good afternoon {Yma} well I'm not even gonna get on LGF tonight -it is too addicting! And I GOTTA get some sleep other than in front of the TV after dinner! LOL!
Yeah - TV after dinner never fails to send me to sleep as well. Thats why I stoppe watching it ...
:-)))
| 683 |
Aye Pod Thu, May 28, 2009 8:18:19am |
re: #586 Occasional Reader
From your linked post:
In a way, I can certainly say this author's attitude is a step in the right (and glaringly obvious) direction. But it's still depressing that the point has to be sold as "we should resist them, because they're targeting Muslims." And if that poor girl had been Hindu or Jewish or atheist?
Indeed. But I'm sure the writer of the piece doesn't think that way, but he/she is trying to make the point to those who do that Islamism is not the muslims friend. Stage one of a process...
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Nevergiveup Thu, May 28, 2009 8:18:57am |
re: #676 lawhawk
The GOP can start rebuilding its image not by obstructing, but asking pointed questions of Sotomayor on her judicial philosophy. There wont be fireworks, and while they can ask direct questions about how she'd rule on abortion, gay marriage, or military detentions, they would get the stock answers that all nominees have given since Ginsberg - which is to say that they wouldn't say what they would do under the circumstances.
However, they should ask questions about judicial philosophy - on judicial activism, interpretation and stare decisis and importance of precedence. How comfortable is she in overturning existing law on issues. What is the role of the judge - to impose policy from the bench, or interpret law strictly.
I'd expect many a nuanced answers, but those are questions that have to be asked. It's up to the Judicial Committee to make sure the nation knows what we're getting.
Screwed!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:19:00am |
re: #652 turn
across her boobs. Hey kosh, if you got time a link to that would be cool.
I'd have to look on Zombie's site. The copy I downloaded isn't on the net.
| 686 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 8:19:16am |
re: #680 albusteve
it may be true...what about giving it some time...do you seriously believe he is above such a despicable strategy?
Tea Party! Drink!
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Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 8:19:18am |
re: #682 yma o hyd
Yeah - TV after dinner never fails to send me to sleep as well. Thats why I stoppe watching it ...
:-)))
Did you watch Man United lose yesterday? Good game
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:19:20am |
re: #677 Kosh's Shadow
I use Canon printers, mostly. I generally don't have a problem, although multiple copies of the printer did show up, probably because it is a networked printer (MP 620 multifunction) and I didn't set the IP address. If it changes, the computer sees it as a new printer.
I use this because it works with both Windows and Mac, and at the same time. I don't need to disconnect and reconnect the printer; the computers connect as needed. And it gives me a scanner that works with the Windows and Mac systems as well.But keep buying HP. I own a few shares of their stock.
I have no problems with HP. They have worked great for me for years across multiple printers.
| 689 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:19:23am |
re: #582 1SG(ret) Well I reckon that's some damn good advice from your ole Man!
But do y'all really want your 17 year old son driving around with a, uh, er, trailer attached to the rear of the truck? I mean, make him make do with a backseat the way we all hadda! LOL!
I'm doing ok - still no word from those folks you contacted for me.
| 690 |
KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 8:19:41am |
re: #675 Spare O'Lake
Some are now speculating that GM is in the process of milking the US taxpayer for all it can, and then it will proceed to shut down more plants and shift the remaining production and jobs from the US to China.
I do not know whether this is in the cards, but I can see Obama taking advantage of this fear of an outsourcing orgy to justify a total takeover and nationalization of GM.
I heard this morn. that they are paying their employees early in order to reassure them they will still have jobs. Sounds fishy to me.
| 693 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:20:21am |
re: #670 Iron Fist
Neither of the motorcycle clubs (my friends in the Outlaws always emphasized the point that they were a club, not a gang :-) wants to split off part of the Nation and turn it into a racist apartheid State
Erm... AFAIK, that's not the position of NCLR, either. (You're thinking of the nuttier outfits like MeCHA and the "Aztlan" creeps.)
| 694 |
Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 8:20:24am |
re: #666 Occasional Reader
I haven't taken it seriously enough to check but just because the MSM picks it up doesn't mean that it has any basis in reality. It just reeks of anti-government paranoia that seems so popular these days.
| 695 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:20:24am |
re: #674 Occasional Reader
I am a bloody genius, come to think of it.
you know ducked tape...big woop
| 696 |
KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 8:20:44am |
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MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 8:20:50am |
re: #660 Kosh's Shadow
Yes, delete all of the printers (or at least all the HP ones). First, unplug the printer, though. Then download and re-install the driver (because if it is corrupt, the same thing will happen later.)
Then re-connect the printer.
I gotta' get going but, before I do, how do I re-install the driver? I'll read your answer when I get back. Thank you for your help!
| 698 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 8:21:23am |
re: #653 Killgore Trout
I'm not sure that is completely accurate. She's questioning the motivations of certain closures, and some do smell fishy, but without more information there's no way to know.
The fact is that the government is imposing its will on the auto industry in ways never before contemplated, and while closures are warranted, it's curious how these specific dealerships were chosen.
Someone will always complain about some of the closures, but if there is a political angle to some of the closures, it could spell trouble for the remainder, and there's nothing that the markets hate more than uncertainty.
Closures have to happen, and no one will be happy. That's why Congress imposed BRAC with respect to base closures. BRAC chose the closures, and Congress voted up or down on the whole lot. It made sense because of the politically sensitive nature of the closures, and since these closures affect thousands of businesses across the nation - not only dealerships, but the real estate companies, property owners, advertising businesses, newspapers, and all kinds of related industries, perhaps a BRAC style setup is warranted, to take the politics (or the appearance thereof) out of the closures since the government controls the companies.
| 699 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 8:21:23am |
re: #649 yma o hyd
i guess my take here would be simple; can he claim this is a "consulting fee"? US politicians of ALL STRIPES routinely take bribes in the guise of "consulting fees"; are the laws in the UK as lax as the US in this area?
| 700 |
Russkilitlover Thu, May 28, 2009 8:21:31am |
| 701 |
irish rose Thu, May 28, 2009 8:21:39am |
re: #598 Macker
Good Morning Lizards. Last night, my son sent me a message on Facebook: "u r garbage"
That’s it.
He obviously tried to goad me into responding, and I won’t do it. I reported him for violation of their Terms of Service. At the very least, I’ve got him blocked and I have asked all my friends to do the same, should he try to connect with them.
God, that was a very hard thing to do because I still love him. One would think that he would have grown up a bit since he and his mother got furious at me for moving to AZ, but apparently not. Considering he quit school when he was 15, at least he has a job, and that’s important.
Being a single parent and not being able to have a good relationship with my son is very hard on me. Thank God the Lady E is helping me through this.
{Macker}
Prayers going out to you, I'm a single parent and I know how you feel.
My rebellious 17 year old son had an accidental overdose Monday night. Took his prescription meds, decided to smoke some pot, forgot that he took his meds and took a second dose. He was so poisoned that we couldn't wake him up. He went into the ER Tuesday night to have his stomach pumped out and I finally brought him home this morning.
I'm totally exhausted.
| 703 |
opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 8:21:50am |
re: #678 opnion
I think that the Republicans have determined that this is a fight that they can't when & could get really damaged.
The idea that Obama wants Supreme Court Justices to view cases through the prisim of their own experience is wrong on several levels, but elections have consequences.
Can't WIN
| 704 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, May 28, 2009 8:22:09am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is the Lizard Nation today?
| 705 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:22:25am |
re: #688 vxbush
I have no problems with HP. They have worked great for me for years across multiple printers.
The only problem I have with HP is their ink seems to dry up 30 seconds after the expiration date. And their printers take 1 black and 1 3-color cartridge; the Canons (the ones I get, anyway) take separate color cartridges. (The one I have now takes 5 - 1 regular black, 1 photo black; 1 ea cyan, yellow, magenta)
| 706 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 8:22:25am |
| 707 |
Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 8:22:38am |
| 708 |
turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:23:00am |
re: #575 yma o hyd
Oh yes - he was fine, just p*ssed off having to wear that lampshade.
That really annoys labs - I know one, he's lovely, a chocolate one - his latest exploit was to search for the well hidden dishcloth, and eat it. He had to wear that lampshade as well, after the vet had fixed him ...Still - better to keep Luke away from golf balls.
Mind - HH's Winston might like them - they'd be just his size!
Talking about small dogs and balls (I know that sounds a little strange) it amazes me how wide my little lhasa apsos can open their mouths (I know that even sounds stranger), they can pick up softballs ( ok that was over the top - ha) I didn't intend for this post to turn out like it did yma, I hope you get my point.
| 709 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:23:18am |
re: #687 HoosierHoops
Did you watch Man United lose yesterday? Good game
Nope.
I never watch footie, unless its the final of the World Championship.
I'm a rugby addict - and the next few games are already pencileld in!
Our lot is in Canada right now, they've got some brilliant youngsters in the squad - I had my eyes on them last year at the U20 World Championships, and so far all those I thought would go on, have.
Oh - and then there are the British lions, in South Africa - first game on Saturday, against one of their clubs - yeehah!
No footie for me, no thank you sirree!
| 710 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, May 28, 2009 8:23:45am |
re: #707 HoosierHoops
Ford! Good Morning!
Morning HH! How are you? Been real busy myself. I gotta quit my job so I can spend more time here.
| 711 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 8:23:55am |
re: #676 lawhawk
The GOP can start rebuilding its image not by obstructing, but asking pointed questions of Sotomayor on her judicial philosophy. There wont be fireworks, and while they can ask direct questions about how she'd rule on abortion, gay marriage, or military detentions, they would get the stock answers that all nominees have given since Ginsberg - which is to say that they wouldn't say what they would do under the circumstances.
However, they should ask questions about judicial philosophy - on judicial activism, interpretation and stare decisis and importance of precedence. How comfortable is she in overturning existing law on issues. What is the role of the judge - to impose policy from the bench, or interpret law strictly.
I'd expect many a nuanced answers, but those are questions that have to be asked. It's up to the Judicial Committee to make sure the nation knows what we're getting.
If there is actually something to rattle her cage about, then I think it should be done. And in my opinion, there is certainly enough of her "race" colored opinions for that in itself to be a soto MAJOR point of attack.
Yes, I said attack. We may be replacing a liberal with a liber on the SC bench, but at least I would like one that doesn't have the beyond a shadow of a doubt outright racism and bigotry.
I don't know, that's just me.
| 712 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, May 28, 2009 8:24:12am |
Back to the salt mine, Y'all have a good day.
| 713 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:24:18am |
| 714 |
laZardo Thu, May 28, 2009 8:24:33am |
Seem to be going invisible here. Ah well.
Gonna have a snack then head to bed. Cheers.
| 715 |
bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 8:24:33am |
re: #617 Occasional Reader
Don't worry, "La Raza" is correctly translated as "peaceful, internal struggle."
//
There was one more point I wanted to make about that yesterday that I didn't (because like I said, I wanted to go home). Growing up in Phoenix I was also familiar with the organization "La Raza" and am aware of how they use the phrase and organization in a prideful-to-the-point-of-racist way. I guess my defense of the term was more of the colloquial use by the people as opposed to the organization and Walter L. Newton has a different take on the colloquial usage which I respect because it's impossible to argue another person's experience.
| 716 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:24:58am |
re: #697 MandyManners
I gotta' get going but, before I do, how do I re-install the driver? I'll read your answer when I get back. Thank you for your help!
When you download, it should give you an exe or a zip file. Double-click and follow instructions, mostly. If it is a zip file, extract it and look for a Readme or other document. If not, there should be a setup.exe
If no setup.exe, connect the printer and browse to where you extracted the files. You might have to try a few directories until it is happy.
But generally, there is an exe that then gives you instructions. And installs a lot of extra stuff. That should tell you when to reconnect the printer.
| 717 |
Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 8:25:35am |
re: #710 Ford_Prefect
Morning HH! How are you? Been real busy myself. I gotta quit my job so I can spend more time here.
LOL
I'm doing great! I'm planning my lunch..It's the highlight of my work day.
| 718 |
turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:26:31am |
re: #598 Macker
I didn't know you went thought that, it must be hard. He'll grow out of it some day. Take care.
| 719 |
Russkilitlover Thu, May 28, 2009 8:26:35am |
re: #702 ROPMA
OT Breaking news on Obama's teleprompter.
President Obama, visibly shaken, attempted to address the White House press corps on his own. "Words, uh, um, I, uh, heh-heh, well..."
"We need a verb!" shouted David Gregory of MSNBC."I uh, know that," quipped the president testily. "And... I'll make sure my staff, uh, gets back with you," he resumed after regaining his composure.
ROTFL!
| 720 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, May 28, 2009 8:26:38am |
re: #717 HoosierHoops
LOL
I'm doing great! I'm planning my lunch..It's the highlight of my work day.
Ha! I Just started eating mine. Couldn't wait until noon. Don't let 'The Man' tell you when lunchtime is.
| 721 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 8:26:40am |
re: #713 Occasional Reader
Rugby only furthers the cycle of violence.
Heh. Speaking of the cycle of violence, you should've seen the Wings and Hawks last night. Tough game, but the Wings finally pulled it out in OT to close out the series.
Looks like a repeat of last year's Stanley Cup finals (with, hopefully, the same result).
| 722 |
Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 8:26:54am |
re: #698 lawhawk
I'm not buying it. Even treating the story with caution is still pushing a conspiracy theory. 9-11 truthers are always "just exploring the facts" etc. Wight wingers were doing the same thing with the FEMA camp stories last month. Before that it was the Nirth Certifikit. I'd be very surprised if the car dealership story pans out. It will most likely end up being bogus and will make the people advocating it look stupid and paranoid.
| 723 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:27:04am |
re: #604 iceweasel Um, that's the second time I know of where you've mentioned that your a liberal (indeed your personal information says: "female, midthirties, liberal, atheist, science geek" so you should fit in just fine out here) but who are your current political favorites? I'm just curious cause I think there's probably fewer true "liberals" in this country than you can squeeze into a phone booth.
| 724 |
JustMyView Thu, May 28, 2009 8:27:05am |
re: #470 karmic_inquisitor
WOW.
The Obama Admin appears to be targeting Republican owned dealerships for closings while sparing those whose owners contributed to him.
The reason that most of the auto dealers being closed are dealers that contributed to Republican candidates is that most auto dealers contribute to Republican candidates. That is, if you're an auto dealer who made a political contribution, it's overwhelmingly likely that you contributed to a Republican. The fact that most of the to-be-closed dealers lean Republican is simply a reflection of the fact that most dealers lean Republican.
| 725 |
UFO TOFU Thu, May 28, 2009 8:27:22am |
re: #664 Macker
Dude, we need to get together over a beer some day.
| 726 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:27:29am |
re: #699 gtrs
i guess my take here would be simple; can he claim this is a "consulting fee"? US politicians of ALL STRIPES routinely take bribes in the guise of "consulting fees"; are the laws in the UK as lax as the US in this area?
The auditors obvioulsy think it was a donation from someone who wants not to give his name (illegal, for that amount of money) - and Griffin put it in his private account (illegal) - and then transfered it to some sort of shadow organisation, like money laundering.
So consulting fees don't come into it.
And yep, they can claim those, but its all gotta be declared, and taxed.
Our Inland Revenue can be pretty nasty once they've got you in their sight.
| 727 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:28:00am |
re: #715 bosforus
One thing that comes to mind; whoever came up with this term originally to apply as a quasi-political designation for, if you will, "nosotros" (and my understanding is that it came about in the late 60s) had a variety of much less freighted options. The could have used El Pueblo, for instance, or La Nación. Instead, they deliberately chose to use a word whose literal translation is "the race". That tells me something.
| 728 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 8:28:03am |
| 729 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:28:49am |
re: #697 MandyManners
I gotta' get going but, before I do, how do I re-install the driver? I'll read your answer when I get back. Thank you for your help!
Make sure you delete *all* the HP 4100 drivers you see listed. You don't want any sticking around.
Now, go to this page:
[Link: h20180.www2.hp.com...]
and choose the link for the exact type of printer you have. Let's say you have the F4135 model. Click the link for that printer.
On the next page is a list of operating systems. If I remember correctly, you're running XP, right? So click on the link that says Windows XP.
On the next page, you need to choose software to download. However, this gets to be a problem, because you can go with a basic driver or a full-feature set. If you've got the bandwidth, I'd say get the "full-feature software and drivers" set.
Run the installer and it should walk you through the process.
| 730 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:29:35am |
re: #701 irish rose
{irish rose} - thats ghastly!
I pray its all sorted by now.
{Macker} - I don't know what to advise, but tough love, much as it hurts one, works better in the end than taking everything lying down, in my experience.
Prayers for the both of you.
| 732 |
Digital Display Thu, May 28, 2009 8:30:13am |
re: #720 Ford_Prefect
Ha! I Just started eating mine. Couldn't wait until noon. Don't let 'The Man' tell you when lunchtime is.
LOL.. The 'man' works in Silly Cone Valley for me.. I see him now and then when I travel back to the home office...
I'm going with Blacken chicken and noodles today at this great place I haven't been to in awhile...
5 minute warning!
| 733 |
Nevergiveup Thu, May 28, 2009 8:30:19am |
18:21 Ahmadinejad: Holocaust is West`s Achilles heel, its biggest weakness (Israel Radio
This short shit really has a serious preoccupation with the Holocaust?
| 734 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:30:48am |
re: #705 Kosh's Shadow
The only problem I have with HP is their ink seems to dry up 30 seconds after the expiration date. And their printers take 1 black and 1 3-color cartridge; the Canons (the ones I get, anyway) take separate color cartridges. (The one I have now takes 5 - 1 regular black, 1 photo black; 1 ea cyan, yellow, magenta)
The more expensive (professional) equipment from HP does have separate color cartridges, but I agree, they soak you for it.
| 735 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:31:23am |
re: #708 turn
I do, turn, I do!
:-)))
I've met a Border Collie, some time ago, who always carried two sticks in his mouth. Never seen that before or since ...
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Dark_Falcon Thu, May 28, 2009 8:31:32am |
re: #733 Nevergiveup
18:21 Ahmadinejad: Holocaust is West`s Achilles heel, its biggest weakness (Israel Radio
This short shit really has a serious preoccupation with the Holocaust?
He wants to start a new one.
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irish rose Thu, May 28, 2009 8:31:54am |
I can't keep my eyes open to chat.
Later, folks.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:06am |
re: #734 vxbush
The more expensive (professional) equipment from HP does have separate color cartridges, but I agree, they soak you for it.
Not that the Canon cartridges are cheap, at about $13 ea for the small ones; the regular black is a larger cartridge. I don't remember what Staples wants for it now.
And the time I tried Staples brand ink the colors came out funny.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:14am |
re: #732 HoosierHoops
LOL.. The 'man' works in Silly Cone Valley for me.. I see him now and then when I travel back to the home office...
I'm going with Blacken chicken and noodles today at this great place I haven't been to in awhile...
5 minute warning!
Sounds good. Where am I meeting you?
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:16am |
re: #722 Killgore Trout
Even treating the story with caution is still pushing a conspiracy theory. 9-11 truthers [...]
Sorry, but this one just isn't anywhere near as outlandish as 9/11 Troof. Once you have the government involved in deciding which businesses to close down (which is the case), the temptation for those responsible to bring politics into it would be HUGE.
To be clear; I, too, am betting the story will not pan out. But it's not some wacky, suspend-disbelief conspiracy theory. It does not require secret agents surreptitiously wiring skyscrapers with explosives; just one or two apparatchiks with a partisan mean streak.
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Macker Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:35am |
re: #701 irish rose
{Macker}
Prayers going out to you, I'm a single parent and I know how you feel.
My rebellious 17 year old son had an accidental overdose Monday night. Took his prescription meds, decided to smoke some pot, forgot that he took his meds and took a second dose. He was so poisoned that we couldn't wake him up. He went into the ER Tuesday night to have his stomach pumped out and I finally brought him home this morning.
I'm totally exhausted.
I will also pray for you too. So Say We All.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:36am |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
That's a good insight. I didn't realize there was such history behind it.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:38am |
re: #713 Occasional Reader
Rugby only furthers the cycle of violence.
Thats a canard which those perpetuate who don't know about rugby!
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:32:51am |
re: #623 Occasional Reader
sorry OR, that be gait turn. I must drive you nuts. Hey while we are on this foot thing, can you recommend a good pedantrist?
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VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 8:33:22am |
re: #728 Dark_Falcon
LMAO!
Biden broke the other one! "What will he do then?"
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 8:33:28am |
re: #734 vxbush
The more expensive (professional) equipment from HP does have separate color cartridges, but I agree, they soak you for it.
I refill my HP cartridges at Walgreen's. That works for one or two extra fills before the actual print head becomes to worn to reuse.
Ten dollars for black, 15 dollars for the tri-color cartridge.
Works for me. Of course, I have a 59 dollar HP printer, it would almost pay to buy a new printer each time.
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1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 8:33:34am |
re: #689 realwest
still no word from those folks you contacted for me.
It takes a little time, the gubmint works on their on schedule. I'll try to check on it for you though.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:34:53am |
re: #738 Kosh's Shadow
Not that the Canon cartridges are cheap, at about $13 ea for the small ones; the regular black is a larger cartridge. I don't remember what Staples wants for it now.
And the time I tried Staples brand ink the colors came out funny.
I believe HP lost in court because they had clearly coded their cartridges to say they were out of ink when in fact they weren't, and the printers wouldn't even *work*. I hope they have been forced to fix that.
But the printers are very solid, last forever, and do a great job.
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turn Thu, May 28, 2009 8:35:20am |
re: #646 redstateredneck
If you did that in my bed and untucked the top sheet I'd throw your ass out!
Another pet peeve.
You have sheets on your bed? I bet they are even clean - sheesh
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:36:01am |
re: #746 Walter L. Newton
I refill my HP cartridges at Walgreen's. That works for one or two extra fills before the actual print head becomes to worn to reuse.
Ten dollars for black, 15 dollars for the tri-color cartridge.
Works for me. Of course, I have a 59 dollar HP printer, it would almost pay to buy a new printer each time.
Yup; several places are offering that now and cutting into HP's business some--but not enough.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:36:05am |
re: #744 turn
can you recommend a good pedantrist?
What?! You want me to recommend a "good" child molester?!
/
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 8:37:15am |
re: #629 albusteve
Newt and Cheney tell the truth....why do liberals have such trouble with the truth?...because they expose liberal insanity?
I think you're a good guy and I've really liked a few things I've seen you post (before I was regg'd, so before I could interact with you). So I'm going to ignore the fact that you want to smear all liberals, including me, as 'having a problem with the truth', just like I ignore people on my side when they say stupid things like "all republicans hate gays and poor people and they love war" and "all republicans are liars, look at Watergate".
Newt just called Sotomayer a racist, and Cheney has, if not lied, obfuscated and harmed his own party--most recent example, "I didn't know Colin Powell was still a Republican".
Look, like I said, I'm a liberal. So if the GOP really wants Buchanan, Newt, and Rush to be the face of the party....go for it.
On the other hand, I'm an American and therefore I think our country and everyone in it benefits from having strong, vigorous, vibrant political alternatives. Despite the mythology, I don't want to eliminate all non-liberals. I'd really love to see an intelligent and vibrant opposition.
Then we ALL always win-- regardless of which party might currently hold the reins of power.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:37:39am |
re: #748 vxbush
I believe HP lost in court because they had clearly coded their cartridges to say they were out of ink when in fact they weren't, and the printers wouldn't even *work*. I hope they have been forced to fix that.
But the printers are very solid, last forever, and do a great job.
Now that I can attest to!
My HP Laser printer is in its 12th year, no trouble at all.
(Gawd, i hope I haven't jinxed it now!)
How are you today, {vxbush}?
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:37:40am |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:37:42am |
re: #748 vxbush
I believe HP lost in court because they had clearly coded their cartridges to say they were out of ink when in fact they weren't, and the printers wouldn't even *work*. I hope they have been forced to fix that.
But the printers are very solid, last forever, and do a great job.
The Canon ink tanks have a clear part so you can tell they're really almost empty. (No liquid, but still some color in the sponge inside).
But that's if you wait until it stops printing; it warns you long before it is empty. That's the notice to get another ink tank. (With two or three Staples and an Office Max nearby, I can always find the ink.)
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LGoPs Thu, May 28, 2009 8:37:58am |
re: #513 Occasional Reader
I think Republicans do cheer for people with a similar life story, but who are... well... conservative. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree that Sotomayor looks likely to be confirmed, and is probably not the best use for rhetorical ammo for conservatives. But I don't think it hurt to get some of her warts in the spotlight, so that Obama would not simply get to sell a 100% pre-packaged success story.
Quick post as I have to run to meetings, but I agree that she will get approval for SCOTUS and there's nothing the Republicans can do about it. However, I would suggest that they use this as a teaching point for the country. Point out the dangers in her flawed way of thinking - especially with regards to legislating from the bench. Point out the dangerously flawed thinking in Obama's philosophy where nice sounding words like empathy hide a dangerous precedent that undermines the very rule of law.
This can be done without rancor and if done effectively and with a unified voice, may make some inroads in challenging what are inherently dangerous ideas.
The American people are half asleep and every opportunity to instruct them must be taken.
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bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 8:38:27am |
re: #722 Killgore Trout
re: #740 Occasional Reader
It'd be as easy as Google searching United States district map and GM dealerships and then overlaying the two. And something tells me the govt.'s got faster access to these maps than a google search. I don't think the story will pan out either, I'm just saying.
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 28, 2009 8:38:41am |
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:39:19am |
re: #746 Walter L. Newton
Of course, I have a 59 dollar HP printer, it would almost pay to buy a new printer each time.
Hell, mine was "free" (with the purchase of my Macbook). I can't figure out the economics of the thing.
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realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:39:59am |
re: #679 Athens Runaway
Are those the same Blue Dog Democrats that voted unanimously for the Stimulus Bill without having even had the time to read it.........so Dear Leader could take a three day holiday weekend knowing that this "Incredibly important and urgent" legislation had been passed?
With Pelosi as Speaker, don't expect many defections from the House and NONE from the US Senate. Well, of course, except for certain GOP members of the Senate.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:40:11am |
re: #752 iceweasel
Newt just called Sotomayer a racist, and Cheney has, if not lied, obfuscated and harmed his own party--most recent example, "I didn't know Colin Powell was still a Republican".
It's sarcasm, and there was a reason for it. Cheney's not known as a real friendly, cuddly guy.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 8:40:52am |
re: #761 Occasional Reader
Hell, mine was "free" (with the purchase of my Macbook). I can't figure out the economics of the thing.
The razor blade model - give away the razor and make money on the blades (ink cartridges).
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Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 8:40:53am |
re: #740 Occasional Reader
Remember the story last month that Obama was going to use TARP to secrelty nationalize the banks? That one came from the Wall Street Journal. The real problem is the mentality behind these conspiracy theories. Obama is not a Marxist/fascist/dictator hell bent on crushing dissent and destroying America. As long as this charicature exists in the minds of conservatives they are going to be susceptible to conspiracy theories and paranoia. Obama is just somebody you disagree with, he's not a monster.
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Athens Runaway Thu, May 28, 2009 8:41:21am |
re: #724 JustMyView
The reason that most of the auto dealers being closed are dealers that contributed to Republican candidates is that most auto dealers contribute to Republican candidates. That is, if you're an auto dealer who made a political contribution, it's overwhelmingly likely that you contributed to a Republican. The fact that most of the to-be-closed dealers lean Republican is simply a reflection of the fact that most dealers lean Republican.
Two problems:
1) Nate Silver's site, while interesting and full of flashy statistical analyses, is hardcore Democratic. Also, he uses HuffPo as a source.
2) His conclusion is that "most auto dealers are Republican, therefore there is nothing behind the claim that Chrysler dealers that didn't donate to Obama are getting cut, and he admits to not having seen all the available data ("By comparison, the list of dealers on Doug Ross's list "which I haven't vetted, but I assume is fine"...).
So he has motive to fudge the numbers in favor of his stance, he has opportunity, and he has the weapon (statistical massaging). Considering that this story is only a few days old, I'm in the "let's let the facts come out before we start comparing this to 9/11 Trooferism" corner. And KT should be happy, there are Democratic commenters over at 538 doing that just.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:41:40am |
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:41:42am |
re: #763 OldLineTexan
It's sarcasm, and there was a reason for it. Cheney's not known as a real friendly, cuddly guy.
His version of being friendly n' cuddly is to use only #6 shot.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, May 28, 2009 8:43:12am |
re: #751 Occasional Reader
What?! You want me to recommend a "good" child molester?!
/
Eight year olds, dude!
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VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 8:43:19am |
re: #763 OldLineTexan
It's sarcasm, and there was a reason for it. Cheney's not known as a real friendly, cuddly guy.
Newt just called Sotomayer a racist, and Cheney has, if not lied, obfuscated and harmed his own party--most recent example, "I didn't know Colin Powell was still a Republican".
Powell endorsed and voted for the democrat even though the repubs put up the type of candidate that Powell said we needed. He is full of shit.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:44:00am |
re: #753 yma o hyd
Now that I can attest to!
My HP Laser printer is in its 12th year, no trouble at all.(Gawd, i hope I haven't jinxed it now!)
How are you today, {vxbush}?
A little tired, but not bad. I've got a lot to do this afternoon, but this morning has been almost a little too quiet. The son has been at camp, so I've been working in his room cleaning, reorganizing, and moving things around. I don't think he'll freak, but he might. We'll see.
I'm debating what to eat for lunch today, though. I didn't bring my lunch today, as usual.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:44:58am |
re: #761 Occasional Reader
Hell, mine was "free" (with the purchase of my Macbook). I can't figure out the economics of the thing.
Gillette invented the concept ... give away the razor "handle", sell the blades.
Most new printers come with smaller-than-normal cartridges as "starters", or did. There was some uproar about it.
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badger1970 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:45:15am |
re: #743 yma o hyd
Rugby: A thug's game played by gentlemen (though Rugby Union there can be questions).
On that subject (not Union but League), I am trying like crazy to root for a team in the Super League XIV but having difficulties (definitely not Leeds or St. Helen's).
The NRL is easy, how can you not root for a team named the Rabbitohs (cute little bunny rabbits with very ugly uni's)
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:45:17am |
re: #761 Occasional Reader
Hell, mine was "free" (with the purchase of my Macbook). I can't figure out the economics of the thing.
Easy: HP assumes you will buy their toner cartridges because they are better, and they soak you on the price. Consumables always get you.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:45:26am |
re: #752 iceweasel
liberal disregard for reality is well documented...it's in fact inherent in their ideology...if you are less affected then good for you...as for Soto she has some explaining to do and in fact appears to have race problems...Cheney scares the shit out of liberals so your comment comes with little regard
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:45:50am |
re: #765 Killgore Trout
Remember the story last month that Obama was going to use TARP to secrelty nationalize the banks? That one came from the Wall Street Journal. The real problem is the mentality behind these conspiracy theories. Obama is not a Marxist/fascist/dictator hell bent on crushing dissent and destroying America. As long as this charicature exists in the minds of conservatives they are going to be susceptible to conspiracy theories and paranoia. Obama is just somebody you disagree with, he's not a monster.
Crap, next you'll be trying to tell me that Bush isn't Hitler, and that Rove isn't Satan.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:46:09am |
re: #768 Occasional Reader
His version of being friendly n' cuddly is to use only #6 shot.
good one...coulda been a whole lot meaner
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Nevergiveup Thu, May 28, 2009 8:46:23am |
re: #770 VegasRick
Newt just called Sotomayer a racist, and Cheney has, if not lied, obfuscated and harmed his own party--most recent example, "I didn't know Colin Powell was still a Republican".
Powell endorsed and voted for the democrat even though the repubs put up the type of candidate that Powell said we needed. He is full of shit.
Powell is as much a Republican as Arlene Specter is.
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JCM Thu, May 28, 2009 8:46:40am |
At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life, if secured against all liability to account.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Monsieur A. Coray, Oct 31, 1823
"The great object of my fear is the Federal Judiciary. That body, like gravity, ever acting with noiseless foot and unalarming advance, gaining ground step by step and holding what it gains, is engulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them."
Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1821. ME 15:326
Morning Honcos!
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:46:44am |
re: #774 vxbush
Easy: HP assumes you will buy their toner cartridges because they are better, and they soak you on the price. Consumables always get you.
You don't get a "free" HP printer with an Apple product; I would wager it is another brand with the same consumables philosophy.
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The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 8:46:49am |
re: #669 gtrs
in my opinion, buchanan is influential in the same regard as ron paul is influential; buchanan has a certain "niche" of loons that take his word as gospel
I think you're right; I also think both those niches serve to further marginalize and stigmatize the Republican party.
The difference as Killgore Trout mentioned is that the RP demographic is growing and more influential (cf the tea parties) and the PB demographic (? which is what, now?) is recognized as fringe even within the Republican Party broadly speaking.
The RP people are out there and they're scary.
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srb1976 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:47:01am |
Ok, kids safely dropped off (both actually fully clothed)... I love daycare...
Time for mommy's day off, which means....housework and grocery shopping of course
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itellu3times Thu, May 28, 2009 8:47:30am |
re: #748 vxbush
I believe HP lost in court because they had clearly coded their cartridges to say they were out of ink when in fact they weren't, and the printers wouldn't even *work*. I hope they have been forced to fix that.
But the printers are very solid, last forever, and do a great job.
I like the Canon line very much. ink relatively cheap.
HP lost me as a customer when I had a one year old HP printer, working great, but when XP came out, HP wouldn't release a driver for it, had to toss a perfectly good printer, replaced it with a Canon, have bought a couple more for other sites now and never looking back.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:48:16am |
re: #780 OldLineTexan
You don't get a "free" HP printer with an Apple product; I would wager it is another brand with the same consumables philosophy.
Ah, no. I purchase Apple equipment, and they are legitimate HP products. But it's a carrot to get you to buy.
| 785 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:48:31am |
re: #740 Occasional Reader
"just one or two apparatchiks with a partisan mean streak."
There are NONE of those type people working in the Obama administration. He's been very careful to keep them out. That's why he and Rahm Emmanuel are having such difficulty in getting cabinet, under-secretary positions, etc.filled. It takes time to vette folks ya know?!
Besides,JustMyView has already explained that virtually all car dealerships are Republicans! Why investigate?!
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:49:23am |
re: #771 vxbush
Your son freaking would depend on his age, I believe. the older, the more he'll freak!
Glad to hear you're over that migraine!
As for lunch - no idea! I'm starting to think of dinner ... beans on toast are always an excellent choice, for whatever time of day!
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itellu3times Thu, May 28, 2009 8:49:34am |
re: #779 JCM
Great quotes, JCM!
Good perceptions by TJ, also.
It seems to be an issue now, reigning in the supreme court. I'd kiss those lifetime appointments goodbye, at the very least.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:51:04am |
re: #784 vxbush
Ah, no. I purchase Apple equipment, and they are legitimate HP products. But it's a carrot to get you to buy.
?
News to me; Apple pushing HP? When?
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:51:30am |
re: #783 itellu3times
I like the Canon line very much. ink relatively cheap.
HP lost me as a customer when I had a one year old HP printer, working great, but when XP came out, HP wouldn't release a driver for it, had to toss a perfectly good printer, replaced it with a Canon, have bought a couple more for other sites now and never looking back.
This is actually my biggest beef with Microsoft's OS. The drivers. Macs are not great for having drivers for everything, but because it is based on Unix you can often find another driver that works fine. And when I go from 10.1 to 10.5, the drivers still work.
In MS' case, drivers have to be updated for each OS (Win98, Win2K, WinME, XP, Vista, 7). XP lasted so long because manufacturers had time to program drivers for their equipment. One of the biggest beefs with Vista was the lack of drivers, despite the technology being available in beta for ages.
Some programmers are careful to make their drivers work for multiple OSes, but not as many do as they should.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:52:14am |
re: #786 yma o hyd
Your son freaking would depend on his age, I believe. the older, the more he'll freak!
Glad to hear you're over that migraine!
As for lunch - no idea! I'm starting to think of dinner ... beans on toast are always an excellent choice, for whatever time of day!
Actually, he's disabled, so the issues are slighty different. But he cannot manage his room on his own, and I had to intervene. It was getting pretty bad in there.
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gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 8:52:23am |
re: #629 albusteve i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:52:48am |
re: #789 OldLineTexan
?
News to me; Apple pushing HP? When?
At least since summer 2008, when my daughter's laptop died a grisly death.
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yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:52:50am |
re: #773 badger1970
Rugby: A thug's game played by gentlemen (though Rugby Union there can be questions).
On that subject (not Union but League), I am trying like crazy to root for a team in the Super League XIV but having difficulties (definitely not Leeds or St. Helen's).
The NRL is easy, how can you not root for a team named the Rabbitohs (cute little bunny rabbits with very ugly uni's)
The second part of that quote is 'soccer - a game for gentlemen played by thugs'. So yep, the gentlemen are definitely playing Rugby Union! Being a gentleman is a state of mind, not a question of ancestry. after all, our best Welsh players used to be miners, and are still from working class stock!
I don't follow Rugby League, thats played by traitors up North!
:-)))
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Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:53:06am |
re: #752 iceweasel
I wonder if people truly believe their own rhetoric when they make sweeping statements such as "why do [insert political party] have trouble with the truth?" Is it venting, revenge for the other side's rhetoric or a sincere belief?
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:53:25am |
re: #790 vxbush
My favorite driver disaster was a Lexmark printer install that illegally changed the registry, preventing me from successfully installing a new printer until the new printer manufacturer directed me to a Microsoft bulletin ... all the while being careful not to say "Lexmark" anywhere.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:53:26am |
re: #780 OldLineTexan
You don't get a "free" HP printer with an Apple product;
Yes, you do. (Well, it's "free" after you send in the rebate coupon, which, of course, they're counting on a certain number of people to forget to do.)
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:53:59am |
re: #793 vxbush
At least since summer 2008, when my daughter's laptop died a grisly death.
And since at least summer 2007, when I got my Macbook.
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:54:27am |
re: #792 gtrs
i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
that's an impressive record
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:54:47am |
re: #792 gtrs
i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
That's quite a wide claim ... perhaps the "truth" you were looking for was subject to your preconceived notions.
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JCM Thu, May 28, 2009 8:54:48am |
re: #787 itellu3times
Great quotes, JCM!
Good perceptions by TJ, also.
It seems to be an issue now, reigning in the supreme court. I'd kiss those lifetime appointments goodbye, at the very least.
We've gotten the idea that the courts are the final word, the greater of the three branches.
We need to reestablish the co-equal branches. That Legislative and Executive together can overturn actions of the court.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:54:50am |
re: #797 Occasional Reader
Yes, you do. (Well, it's "free" after you send in the rebate coupon, which, of course, they're counting on a certain number of people to forget to do.)
And I believe Apple has an agreement with HP which lowers the price of the printer as well.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 8:54:57am |
re: #792 gtrs
i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
Could you document his lies for me, 4 or 5 would do for a start?
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albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:55:01am |
re: #795 Flyers1974
I wonder if people truly believe their own rhetoric when they make sweeping statements such as "why do [insert political party] have trouble with the truth?" Is it venting, revenge for the other side's rhetoric or a sincere belief?
yes
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:55:35am |
re: #797 Occasional Reader
Yes, you do. (Well, it's "free" after you send in the rebate coupon, which, of course, they're counting on a certain number of people to forget to do.)
Well, that is too cool. My daughter ended up with an Epson in her recent Macbook purchase, not an HP.
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vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:55:37am |
re: #796 OldLineTexan
My favorite driver disaster was a Lexmark printer install that illegally changed the registry, preventing me from successfully installing a new printer until the new printer manufacturer directed me to a Microsoft bulletin ... all the while being careful not to say "Lexmark" anywhere.
That's something else I hate about MS: the registry, although Apple has its own database for tracking information.....I understand the principle, but perhaps the implementation is bad enough in MS' case that it just sucks.
| 807 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 8:56:14am |
re: #791 vxbush
Actually, he's disabled, so the issues are slighty different. But he cannot manage his room on his own, and I had to intervene. It was getting pretty bad in there.
Then I'd guess he'd be eternally grateful!
Boys' rooms are always pretty bad, I don't know why that should be so!
| 808 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:56:41am |
re: #795 Flyers1974
I wonder if people truly believe their own rhetoric when they make sweeping statements such as "why do [insert political party] have trouble with the truth?" Is it venting, revenge for the other side's rhetoric or a sincere belief?
You mean statements like "Cheney and Gingrich always lie"?
| 809 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:56:49am |
re: #792 gtrs
i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
That ridiculously hyperbolic statement shows you to be a knee-jerk, partisan hack.
Next!
| 810 |
bloodnok Thu, May 28, 2009 8:56:54am |
re: #792 gtrs
You sound like a child. So you disagree with them. The "they're a bunch of lying liars who lie all the time with their lying mouths!" frothing act does not advance whatever point you were trying to make.
| 811 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:57:34am |
re: #808 OldLineTexan
You mean statements like "Cheney and Gingrich always lie"?
well DUH?....good grief
| 812 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:57:38am |
re: #806 vxbush
That's something else I hate about MS: the registry, although Apple has its own database for tracking information.....I understand the principle, but perhaps the implementation is bad enough in MS' case that it just sucks.
You know, it almost works when you follow the rules ...
/
| 813 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 8:57:42am |
re: #757 bosforus
Um, I thought we were talking about Chrysler dealerships,no?
And your map (well, Googles' map)doesn't begin to show even 3% of GM dealerships).
| 815 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 8:58:03am |
re: #805 OldLineTexan
Well, that is too cool. My daughter ended up with an Epson in her recent Macbook purchase, not an HP.
Maybe it wasn't a real Macbook? Was the vendor Chinese, by any chance? Check the logo carefully... it might actually read "Maobook".
/
| 816 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 8:58:09am |
I had HP printers for a long time, a 640 IIRC, and it crapped out and it always had driver issues with Win95/98/2000. I got an Epson because it had a straight paper path which I needed to do wedding invitation addressing, but that crapped out a few years ago. I went back to HP after doing a review, and the 6940 does an admirable job and it's been working just fine for the last couple of years.
| 817 |
JustMyView Thu, May 28, 2009 8:58:14am |
re: #766 Athens Runaway
Two problems:
1) Nate Silver's site, while interesting and full of flashy statistical analyses, is hardcore Democratic. Also, he uses HuffPo as a source.
The HuffPo financial contributions data comes from the Federal Election Commission. They do not have their own database. Candidates do not report contributions to HuffPo; they report them to the FEC. From HuffPo:
All calculations are based on public records filed with the FEC of contributions by all individuals totaling more than $200 (and some totaling less than $200) to a single Republican or Democratic presidential campaign or national committee for the 2004 and 2008 election cycles.FundRace is updated according to the reporting schedule set by the FEC. Public contribution data is geocoded using public U.S. Census Bureau data. Dynamic maps are powered by Google Maps.
--------------------------------
2) His conclusion is that "most auto dealers are Republican, therefore there is nothing behind the claim that Chrysler dealers that didn't donate to Obama are getting cut, and he admits to not having seen all the available data ("By comparison, the list of dealers on Doug Ross's list "which I haven't vetted, but I assume is fine"...).
What he is saying here is that the conservative analyst finds the same thing--that essentially all campaign contributions from auto dealers go to Republicans, do the fact that Republican contributors are being closed down is non-diagnostic. Those that are staying open are Republican contributors too.
| 818 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:58:16am |
| 819 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:58:29am |
re: #805 OldLineTexan
Well, that is too cool. My daughter ended up with an Epson in her recent Macbook purchase, not an HP.
Apple sells printers from several major brands: HP, Cannon, etc. but no special deal is in place. Right now, their special is to buy a Macbook and get an iPod Touch for free (again, you have to send the rebate thing back in). That will be in place throughout the summer. Then later they'll probably switch over to the free printer deal.
| 820 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 8:58:39am |
re: #792 gtrs
i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
What a brilliant post!
/asshole
| 822 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 8:59:22am |
re: #815 Occasional Reader
Maybe it wasn't a real Macbook? Was the vendor Chinese, by any chance? Check the logo carefully... it might actually read "Maobook".
/
But then it would have to be red, no?
| 823 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 8:59:27am |
re: #815 Occasional Reader
Maybe it wasn't a real Macbook? Was the vendor Chinese, by any chance? Check the logo carefully... it might actually read "Maobook".
/
It's ALL Chinese; I have been to the factory where most of it's made, although I was of course only shown the areas dealing with MY products.
| 824 |
badger1970 Thu, May 28, 2009 8:59:35am |
re: #794 yma o hyd
The best parts of the Six Nations was watching Wales beat England, "Land of My Fathers" and during the Scotland v. England, "Flower of Scotland".
During the exhibition v. New Zealand, the Welsh stand pat challenge was pretty cool after the Haka.
| 825 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 8:59:46am |
| 826 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:00:11am |
re: #822 vxbush
But then it would have to be red, no?
I could sell Chebooks, I would bet.
/There are a lot of idjits
| 827 |
MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 9:00:40am |
| 828 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:00:59am |
re: #765 Killgore Trout
Do you
Obama is not a Marxist/fascist/dictator hell bent on crushing dissent and destroying America. As long as this charicature exists in the minds of conservatives they are going to be susceptible to conspiracy theories and paranoia. Obama is just somebody you disagree with, he's not a monster.
have any links for that?
:)
| 829 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:05am |
re: #781 iceweasel i agree but i would contend that there is some crossover between the two groups; clearly(in my opinion) the PAULTARDS(many who have been big in the tea-bagging crew)are more activist and the buchanan folks more "scholarly"
| 830 |
eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:14am |
re: #698 lawhawk
I'm not sure that is completely accurate. She's questioning the motivations of certain closures, and some do smell fishy, but without more information there's no way to know.
The fact is that the government is imposing its will on the auto industry in ways never before contemplated, and while closures are warranted, it's curious how these specific dealerships were chosen.
Someone will always complain about some of the closures, but if there is a political angle to some of the closures, it could spell trouble for the remainder, and there's nothing that the markets hate more than uncertainty.
Closures have to happen, and no one will be happy. That's why Congress imposed BRAC with respect to base closures. BRAC chose the closures, and Congress voted up or down on the whole lot. It made sense because of the politically sensitive nature of the closures, and since these closures affect thousands of businesses across the nation - not only dealerships, but the real estate companies, property owners, advertising businesses, newspapers, and all kinds of related industries, perhaps a BRAC style setup is warranted, to take the politics (or the appearance thereof) out of the closures since the government controls the companies.
Can you explain the business sense behind these closures?
I haven't found a good argument in support of them.
For instance, how does a manufacturer benefit from dealerships that it doesn't own closing?
| 831 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:14am |
re: #821 Iron Fist
It looks like they are involved with each other. I went to their website, and (of course) there was nothing particularly controversial there (as opposed to Rev. Wright and the Black Values Ststem), but that is what one would expect from any smart organization.
They are all involved with one another. Just the words in the name, La Raza, raise the appearance of racism. We wouldn't want a Supreme Court Appointee who was a member of a "National Council of the Aryan Nation" to pass through the "advise and consent" of the Senate. What's the difference?
Say it can't be, say it's not true. Just last night I was reading all about how La Raza had thrown off all those connections and they are working for the good of all humanity.
| 832 |
LGoPs Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:21am |
re: #800 OldLineTexan
That's quite a wide claim ... perhaps the "truth" you were looking for was subject to your preconceived notions.
And then again, perhaps gtrs is just fucked in the head.......
/
| 833 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:25am |
re: #826 OldLineTexan
I could sell Chebooks, I would bet.
/There are a lot of idjits
True, true. Everyone is so thrilled that Dell is selling laptops that are in *color*. Gasp! As if you couldn't go spray paint the sucker yourself or pay someone for a skin for the machine. Silly people.
| 834 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:42am |
re: #823 OldLineTexan
It's ALL Chinese; I have been to the factory where most of it's made, although I was of course only shown the areas dealing with MY products.
Sure, but the "Maobook" is the one they make after hours, with leftover parts, in that little workshop behind the fish-head store.
| 835 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, May 28, 2009 9:01:59am |
re: #792 gtrs
i have been watching newt AND cheney for about 30 years now; i have NEVER heard newt tell the truth and cheney just once, the time he admitted his daughter was a lesbian.............
Proof by assertion? Just what we all need.
| 836 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:02:24am |
re: #829 gtrs
i agree but i would contend that there is some crossover between the two groups; clearly(in my opinion) the PAULTARDS(many who have been big in the tea-bagging crew)are more activist and the buchanan folks more "scholarly"
Do you ever answer when other Lizards ask you a question?
| 837 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:02:24am |
re: #834 Occasional Reader
Sure, but the "Maobook" is the one they make after hours, with leftover parts, in that little workshop behind the fish-head store.
And the background is a picture of Mao, and you can't change it ever....
| 838 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:02:34am |
re: #790 vxbush
This is actually my biggest beef with Microsoft's OS. The drivers. Macs are not great for having drivers for everything, but because it is based on Unix you can often find another driver that works fine. And when I go from 10.1 to 10.5, the drivers still work.
In MS' case, drivers have to be updated for each OS (Win98, Win2K, WinME, XP, Vista, 7). XP lasted so long because manufacturers had time to program drivers for their equipment. One of the biggest beefs with Vista was the lack of drivers, despite the technology being available in beta for ages.
Some programmers are careful to make their drivers work for multiple OSes, but not as many do as they should.
Vista changed some internal interfaces, and some old drivers just wouldn't work. If you make hardware, rewriting drivers for old devices is a money sink. Microsoft should have paid them to rewrite the drivers; it would have been better than the reputation Vista got.
| 840 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:02:38am |
re: #834 Occasional Reader
Sure, but the "Maobook" is the one they make after hours, with leftover parts, in that little workshop behind the fish-head store.
They don't have after hours. Those people work like Maxwell's daemon.
| 841 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 9:02:50am |
re: #809 Occasional Reader
you recognize snark so well..........swing again...............
| 842 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:03:15am |
re: #832 LGoPs
I try to save that level of discourse for the LNDT!
| 843 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:03:16am |
re: #824 badger1970
The best parts of the Six Nations was watching Wales beat England, "Land of My Fathers" and during the Scotland v. England, "Flower of Scotland".
During the exhibition v. New Zealand, the Welsh stand pat challenge was pretty cool after the Haka.
Yes - that face-off by our lads, after the Haka, was outstanding! so was the first half. Unfortunately, in the second half, the All Blacks went up a couple of gears, and we couldn't hold on. Just shows how brilliant the All Blacks are.
Oh - and beating England is, was, and always will be, the most important thing in any Six Nations, for any of the Celts.
I like 'Flower of Scotland', meself - after 'Land of my Fathers', naturally, and all our other hymns ...
:-)
| 844 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, May 28, 2009 9:03:53am |
re: #778 Nevergiveup
Powell is as much a Republican as Arlene Specter is.
He is, with some justification, very bitter and determined to get even with the Republicans since, in his view, they hung him out to dry over the Iraq WMD issue.
But he is apparently too shrewd and calculating to have quit the GOP, choosing instead to be a cheap back-stabber.
Still, I hesitate to accuse him of supporting Obama solely on the basis of his race.
| 845 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:04:04am |
re: #815 Occasional Reader
Maybe it wasn't a real Macbook? Was the vendor Chinese, by any chance? Check the logo carefully... it might actually read "Maobook".
/
Did it have a red cover with a star instead of an Apple logo?
| 846 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:04:12am |
re: #838 Kosh's Shadow
Vista changed some internal interfaces, and some old drivers just wouldn't work. If you make hardware, rewriting drivers for old devices is a money sink. Microsoft should have paid them to rewrite the drivers; it would have been better than the reputation Vista got.
True, true. Does 7 have the same issue, though, or does it use the same technology as Vista?
| 847 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:04:15am |
re: #804 albusteve
yes
The posters at Daily Kos use exactly the same rhetorical devices as used by those posting on the conservative sites. And make identical complaints to explain away election losses.
| 848 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:04:16am |
re: #833 vxbush
True, true. Everyone is so thrilled that Dell is selling laptops that are in *color*. Gasp! As if you couldn't go spray paint the sucker yourself or pay someone for a skin for the machine. Silly people.
Do me a favor and DON'T spray paint your notebook!
| 849 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:04:48am |
re: #841 gtrs
you recognize snark so well..........swing again...............
Er, fuck off jerk. Oh my, did I say that? You have been asked to prove your comment about Newt and Cheney being liars all the time, yet your not capable of thinking that out, are you.
Git.
| 850 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 9:05:23am |
| 851 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 9:05:42am |
re: #841 gtrs
you recognize snark so well..........swing again...............
Don't mind if I do.
You are still an asshole.
| 852 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 9:05:59am |
re: #847 Flyers1974
The posters at Daily Kos use exactly the same rhetorical devices as used by those posting on the conservative sites. And make identical complaints to explain away election losses.
crazy world huh?
| 853 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 9:06:01am |
re: #841 gtrs
you recognize snark so well..........swing again...............
I do hope you've enjoyed your brief time here.
| 854 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:06:06am |
re: #848 OldLineTexan
Do me a favor and DON'T spray paint your notebook!
Oh, I'm joking. Actually, the number of people who do case mods is growing, and there are some that do fabulous jobs. But yes, they take the cases apart and paint them.
Although you could, in theory, cover over the hinges and ports.....
/
| 855 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:06:28am |
re: #850 albusteve
Good Lord I hope so - I'd hate to think we have a new one!
| 857 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 9:06:52am |
re: #848 OldLineTexan
Do me a favor and DON'T spray paint your notebook!
Yep, it's bad for the environment. Use a paint roller instead.
| 858 |
Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 9:07:01am |
| 859 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:07:06am |
re: #819 vxbush
Apple sells printers from several major brands: HP, Cannon, etc. but no special deal is in place. Right now, their special is to buy a Macbook and get an iPod Touch for free (again, you have to send the rebate thing back in). That will be in place throughout the summer. Then later they'll probably switch over to the free printer deal.
I did that a couple of years ago - free iPod (or $199 rebate for a fancier one).
They (the processing company, not Apple) lost the first submission, despite it being sent return receipt. When I called, they told me they could fax me a "lost bar code" form, which they did. And, of course, I had copies of everything.
The second time, they sent me the rebate. (I wonder if the fax ID saying the machine belonged to Atty Mrs Kosh's Shadow helped)
So if you get a rebate, ESPECIALLY a large one, COPY EVERYTHING and keep track of the rebate.
| 860 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:07:23am |
re: #855 realwest
Good Lord I hope so - I'd hate to think we have a new one!
It's Avanti without the neat car collection.
| 861 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:07:35am |
re: #854 vxbush
Oh, I'm joking. Actually, the number of people who do case mods is growing, and there are some that do fabulous jobs. But yes, they take the cases apart and paint them.
Although you could, in theory, cover over the hinges and ports.....
/
Be sure and check the paint against the chemical composition of the plastic and ay other paints/coatings. Just sayin'.
;)
| 862 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:07:54am |
re: #859 Kosh's Shadow
I did that a couple of years ago - free iPod (or $199 rebate for a fancier one).
They (the processing company, not Apple) lost the first submission, despite it being sent return receipt. When I called, they told me they could fax me a "lost bar code" form, which they did. And, of course, I had copies of everything.
The second time, they sent me the rebate. (I wonder if the fax ID saying the machine belonged to Atty Mrs Kosh's Shadow helped)So if you get a rebate, ESPECIALLY a large one, COPY EVERYTHING and keep track of the rebate.
They have that outsourced to some company, as I recall; can't recall who.
| 863 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 9:07:59am |
re: #845 Kosh's Shadow
Did it have a red cover with a star instead of an Apple logo?
Yep. And it takes forever to start up... it's kind of a Long March.
| 864 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:08:22am |
re: #857 Occasional Reader
Yep, it's bad for the environment. Use a paint roller instead.
Good tip!
/Here's an Algore greenie point
| 865 |
FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 9:08:48am |
The never-ending campaign. Stuff those coffers.
| 866 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:08:48am |
re: #863 Occasional Reader
Yep. And it takes forever to start up... it's kind of a Long March.
But it purges files, occasionally.
| 867 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:08:55am |
re: #860 Walter L. Newton
ROFL! Nah, avanti is much better spoken (written)!
| 868 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:09:02am |
re: #861 OldLineTexan
Be sure and check the paint against the chemical composition of the plastic and ay other paints/coatings. Just sayin'.
;)
Of course, you could use car pinstriping tape. That shouldn't have issues.
| 869 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:10:27am |
re: #858 Killgore Trout
Glowing Baby Monkeys: Marmosets Inherit Genes Added By Science
Science!
Big deal. They put mercury in tuna fish years ago!
/
| 870 |
Occasional Reader Thu, May 28, 2009 9:10:47am |
re: #866 OldLineTexan
But it purges files, occasionally.
It's got a great "Gang of Quad" processor, though.
| 871 |
MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 9:10:55am |
| 872 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 9:10:55am |
re: #847 Flyers1974
The posters at Daily Kos use exactly the same rhetorical devices as used by those posting on the conservative sites. And make identical complaints to explain away election losses.
Amazing find there, Sherlock. All this shows is that people are people, and wingnuts are wingnuts regardless of political stripe.
/Film at 11.
| 873 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 9:11:00am |
re: #867 realwest
ROFL! Nah, avanti is
muchbetter spoken (written)!
And actually responds to his critics.
| 874 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:11:03am |
re: #846 vxbush
True, true. Does 7 have the same issue, though, or does it use the same technology as Vista?
I think it uses the Vista interfaces with minor changes. Vista had major changes for security. (Or to keep people from messing with digital rights management.)
| 875 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:11:33am |
re: #868 vxbush
Of course, you could use car pinstriping tape. That shouldn't have issues.
Yes, hence the skins, etc. that you can buy. One of my daughters purchased a "Tattoo" for her notebook (dandelion graphics) as opposed to a "Skin".
| 876 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:11:39am |
re: #808 OldLineTexan
You mean statements like "Cheney and Gingrich always lie"?
Absolutely. No individual on this planet "always lie[s]." Do you think this statement is less valid than the statement regarding liberals having a problem with the truth?
| 877 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 9:11:48am |
re: #830 eschew_obfuscation
As best as I can tell, closing businesses that are too close to each other eliminates price pressure to cut the price on vehicles, increasing profits to those businesses that remain. It relieves pressure on GM to drop prices even further.
It also helps GM maintain inventory and reduce the number of cars outstanding on lots (fewer dealers holding fewer cars, reducing the need to drop prices sharply to reduce inventory end of year, etc.)
Of course, none of this helps GM or Chrysler if no one wants to buy your product because of perception.
Government Motors? Heh.
People would much rather drive a Ford since they eschewed federal assistance and are doing better. They're going to survive all this without bailouts, while GM and Chrysler are going to consumer ever larger amounts of federal funds with no endgame (or exit strategy). It's all being done on the fly.
| 878 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:11:50am |
Hey there Iceweasel if y'all are still out here, could you please answer my question in #723?
Who (whom?!) do you admire politically?
| 879 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:12:53am |
re: #870 Occasional Reader
It's got a great "Gang of Quad" processor, though.
Did yours come with the new DVD writer that makes over 52 Cultural Revolutions per second?
| 880 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:13:15am |
re: #862 vxbush
They have that outsourced to some company, as I recall; can't recall who.
Yes, rebates are largely outsourced to companies whose main job is to lose half the submissions.
| 881 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 9:13:27am |
re: #723 realwest
Um, that's the second time I know of where you've mentioned that your a liberal (indeed your personal information says: "female, midthirties, liberal, atheist, science geek" so you should fit in just fine out here) but who are your current political favorites? I'm just curious cause I think there's probably fewer true "liberals" in this country than you can squeeze into a phone booth.
The definition of what 'liberal' really is, and what it means, is a whole discussion. For example, America is a liberal democracy, but this means 'liberal' in the sense Locke meant, etc.
personally, I feel like sometimes I should mention here that I'm the leftist moonbat etc that some people freak each other out about....because many of my opinions are ones that I think lots of LGF people would agree with, even though in many ways I would fit the worst possible stereotype of 'lefty'.
Similarly, I came to read LGF years ago because the site, Charles, and the commenters were caricatured as being racist bigots and an echo chamber, etc.
And because I read the source, I learned that's all bullshit.
I have this idea that I should periodically announce that I'm a member of the "enemy camp" because it shows (hopefully) that not everyone in the hated group is an idiot. I kind of feel the urge to do it especially when I'm expressing an opinion that I know a lot of people assume, in a knee-jerk fashion, "no liberal could think x."
BTW, as to who my political favourites are...I'm a lib and voted for Obama, but I assume all politicians are liars, frankly. That includes Obama, btw. I was happy to vote for him but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made.
So who are your favourites?
| 882 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 9:13:28am |
re: #876 Flyers1974
Absolutely. No individual on this planet "always lie[s]." Do you think this statement is less valid than the statement regarding liberals having a problem with the truth?
yes of course...did you just fall off the banana wagon?
| 883 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:13:37am |
re: #876 Flyers1974
Absolutely. No individual on this planet "always lie[s]." Do you think this statement is less valid than the statement regarding liberals having a problem with the truth?
Pointing out a cognitive dissonance. I am not one for generalities, but I can spot them.
| 884 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 9:13:44am |
re: #870 Occasional Reader
It's got a great "Gang of Quad" processor, though.
Does it go through Great Leaps Forward, or is that just when you throw it?
| 885 |
NonNativeTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:14:01am |
re: #858 Killgore Trout
Glowing Baby Monkeys: Marmosets Inherit Genes Added By Science
Science!
Intelligent Engineering!
| 886 |
itellu3times Thu, May 28, 2009 9:14:33am |
re: #801 JCM
We've gotten the idea that the courts are the final word, the greater of the three branches.
We need to reestablish the co-equal branches. That Legislative and Executive together can overturn actions of the court.
And what about when SCOTUS just blows one, like the eminent domain a couple of years back?
| 887 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:14:43am |
| 889 |
redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 9:15:49am |
re: #881 iceweasel
BTW, as to who my political favourites are...I'm a lib and voted for Obama, but I assume all politicians are liars, frankly. That includes Obama, btw. I was happy to vote for him but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made.
So who are your favourites?
Are/were you a Brit?
| 890 |
itellu3times Thu, May 28, 2009 9:15:52am |
re: #876 Flyers1974
Absolutely. No individual on this planet "always lie[s]." Do you think this statement is less valid than the statement regarding liberals having a problem with the truth?
Listen closely, Norman: "I am lying!"
/meltdown
| 891 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:15:56am |
re: #872 Honorary Yooper
Amazing find there, Sherlock. All this shows is that people are people, and wingnuts are wingnuts regardless of political stripe.
/Film at 11.
I'm not sure the "Sherlock" remark is appropriate considering the past few exchanges. Some on here would find your remark that "people are people" anything but elementary. In fact, the posters claim was essentiall that there is an intrinsic element to liberal thought that makes them lie. So, maybe a bit more amazing of a find for some than you give credit for.
| 892 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:16:22am |
re: #858 Killgore Trout
Glowing Baby Monkeys: Marmosets Inherit Genes Added By Science
Science!
That's really cool. Though I wonder what the marmosets in general make of this?
| 893 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 9:16:46am |
re: #881 iceweasel
BTW, as to who my political favourites are...I'm a lib and voted for Obama, but I assume all politicians are liars, frankly. That includes Obama, btw. I was happy to vote for him but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made.
Anybody that voted for ozero and is disappointed with him was not paying attention before the election. Blinded by the bullshit.
| 894 |
turn Thu, May 28, 2009 9:17:17am |
re: #881 iceweasel
newt, the liar. hey, what kind of science are you into btw?
| 895 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, May 28, 2009 9:17:20am |
re: #892 Dianna
That's really cool. Though I wonder what the marmosets in general make of this?
Dude, what are you on?
| 896 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 9:18:16am |
re: #752 iceweasel cmon ice; you know newt or cheney would never lie OR cheat on their wives......................only democrats do those things................
| 897 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:18:18am |
re: #888 Occasional Reader
Later.
(Where the hell is CJ?)
Don't I recall you getting slightly cranky with me once when I offered to go wake up Charles?
/toe tapping
| 898 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:19:05am |
re: #893 VegasRick
BTW, as to who my political favourites are...I'm a lib and voted for Obama, but I assume all politicians are liars, frankly. That includes Obama, btw. I was happy to vote for him but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made.
Anybody that voted for ozero and is disappointed with him was not paying attention before the election. Blinded by the bullshit.
Blinded by the shite
Voted for a douche
Another commie in the light
--apologies to Manfred Mann and Bruce Springsteen. (Blinded by the Light)
| 899 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:19:25am |
| 900 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:19:29am |
re: #896 gtrs
cmon ice; you know newt or cheney would never lie OR cheat on their wives......................only democrats
doget praised by their supporters those things................
FTFY
/thought you would enjoy the "abuse"
/you seem to have a "need" for attention
| 901 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:19:36am |
re: #877 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk! Say, do you know if those closed or to be closed dealers, who are apparently obliged to turn over their inventories to their surviving competitors had to pay for that inventory?
And if so who is going to repay them - cause if it's the competing dealers who remain open, then there really isn't a whole lot of cost/benefit in this approach. And if the Taxpayers are going to pay for those cars in those inventories we already have Government Motors. Say, wanna buy a car?!?
And if they didn't have to pay for the autos in their inventory and they are being closed, is there any particular reason why they should take good care of those cars that they no longer own? Say, wanna buy a car?
And ALL of this was brought to you by the folks who want to run healthcare in this country!
| 902 |
Russkilitlover Thu, May 28, 2009 9:19:44am |
re: #831 Walter L. Newton
Say it can't be, say it's not true. Just last night I was reading all about how La Raza had thrown off all those connections and they are working for the good of all humanity.
The defense of La Raza, and anyone who would be a member, is just weirod.
| 903 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:19:58am |
Germany calls on Clinton to resolve GM fight:
"German ministers today called on Hillary Clinton to enter talks over the future of Opel and Vauxhall as the American Government unveiled plans to sink more taxpayers’ funds into the European carmakers’ US parent, General Motors (GM).
Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Germany's Foreign Minister, was due to telephone the US Secretary of State last night after criticising the Obama administration for sending a low-level representative to Wednesday's talks with GM.
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, the Economics Minister, also denounced the US Treasury for dispatching a junior official who had to consult Washington through a video link at regular intervals during the night.
Mr Guttenberg said the talks had been "absurd in parts" and demanded "more seriousness and a greater willingness to compromise on the part of the US."
My oh my - whats going on here?
| 904 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 9:20:13am |
re: #897 vxbush
Don't I recall you getting slightly cranky with me once when I offered to go wake up Charles?
/toe tapping
Pretty sure he's up, spinning wheel right now.
| 905 |
turn Thu, May 28, 2009 9:20:14am |
re: #892 Dianna
That's really cool. Though I wonder what the marmosets in general make of this?
They're green with envy. Morning D. I read about that this morning and don't understand the big breakthough here, it was done with rabits and mice years ago.
| 907 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:21:09am |
re: #903 yma o hyd
Germany calls on Clinton to resolve GM fight:
"German ministers today called on Hillary Clinton to enter talks over the future of Opel and Vauxhall as the American Government unveiled plans to sink more taxpayers’ funds into the European carmakers’ US parent, General Motors (GM).
Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Germany's Foreign Minister, was due to telephone the US Secretary of State last night after criticising the Obama administration for sending a low-level representative to Wednesday's talks with GM.
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, the Economics Minister, also denounced the US Treasury for dispatching a junior official who had to consult Washington through a video link at regular intervals during the night.
Mr Guttenberg said the talks had been "absurd in parts" and demanded "more seriousness and a greater willingness to compromise on the part of the US."My oh my - whats going on here?
Oh, that is interesting.
| 908 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:21:22am |
| 909 |
itellu3times Thu, May 28, 2009 9:21:56am |
re: #903 yma o hyd
Germany calls on Clinton to resolve GM fight:
"German ministers today called on Hillary Clinton to enter talks over the future of Opel and Vauxhall as the American Government unveiled plans to sink more taxpayers’ funds into the European carmakers’ US parent, General Motors (GM).
Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Germany's Foreign Minister, was due to telephone the US Secretary of State last night after criticising the Obama administration for sending a low-level representative to Wednesday's talks with GM.
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, the Economics Minister, also denounced the US Treasury for dispatching a junior official who had to consult Washington through a video link at regular intervals during the night.
Mr Guttenberg said the talks had been "absurd in parts" and demanded "more seriousness and a greater willingness to compromise on the part of the US."My oh my - whats going on here?
Sounds like a lack of respect in Europe for community organizers.
/
| 910 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:22:03am |
re: #905 turn
They're green with envy. Morning D. I read about that this morning and don't understand the big breakthough here, it was done with rabits and mice years ago.
The glowing feet were inherited. Which is very cool. The article says this was the first time an "added" (by humans) gene was inherited and expressed, which is why it's a big deal.
| 911 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:22:11am |
re: #906 Dianna
You're an idiot.
Hiya, Dianna!
Being charitable, I suppose he/she/it doesn't know about sarc tags and their use ... maybe?
| 912 |
MrSilverDragon Thu, May 28, 2009 9:22:13am |
re: #896 gtrs
I would still like to see that list of lies you're claiming, please, before you spout off some other (what I find) immature statement.
| 913 |
NonNativeTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:22:39am |
re: #899 Dianna
Our spell-checker is British, I think.
Yeah, it's like the British think they invented English or something..
| 914 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 9:22:44am |
re: #891 Flyers1974
I'm not sure the "Sherlock" remark is appropriate considering the past few exchanges. Some on here would find your remark that "people are people" anything but elementary. In fact, the posters claim was essentiall that there is an intrinsic element to liberal thought that makes them lie. So, maybe a bit more amazing of a find for some than you give credit for.
reread #629....you are twisting my words....not nice
| 915 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:23:06am |
re: #909 itellu3times
Sounds like a lack of respect in Europe for community organizers.
/
I think you're spot on there!
:-)))
| 916 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:23:11am |
re: #910 Dianna
The glowing feet were inherited. Which is very cool. The article says this was the first time an "added" (by humans) gene was inherited and expressed, which is why it's a big deal.
Now everyone in the Hollywood party set will want that.
| 917 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 9:23:17am |
re: #891 Flyers1974
No, there's no intrinic element to being a liberal or conservative that makes one lie. Sorry if it's a bit snarky, but that's what I've tried to tell a certain commentor here regarding his own favorite whipping boy. His is a group of conservatives that he goes off on.
To be quite honest, I've noticed that Hot Air, DU, Ace, and Kos all have their wingnuts, and the wingnuts seem to be far more vocal than the rational commentors. I don't think I've seen more people wish for harm to come to someone than I have at the above places. It is one of the reasons I like LGF. The sane commentors are more vocal, and wishes for harm are quickly deleted.
| 918 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, May 28, 2009 9:23:22am |
re: #903 yma o hyd
Germany calls on Clinton to resolve GM fight:
"German ministers today called on Hillary Clinton to enter talks over the future of Opel and Vauxhall as the American Government unveiled plans to sink more taxpayers’ funds into the European carmakers’ US parent, General Motors (GM).
Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Germany's Foreign Minister, was due to telephone the US Secretary of State last night after criticising the Obama administration for sending a low-level representative to Wednesday's talks with GM.
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, the Economics Minister, also denounced the US Treasury for dispatching a junior official who had to consult Washington through a video link at regular intervals during the night.
Mr Guttenberg said the talks had been "absurd in parts" and demanded "more seriousness and a greater willingness to compromise on the part of the US."My oh my - whats going on here?
Most people I know call this an unintended consequence, but in my part of the world, we call that a tar-baby.
| 919 |
turn Thu, May 28, 2009 9:23:35am |
re: #908 OldLineTexan
No, I am. I left the verb out of my snark!
/sob
I got you beat, I spelled rabbit as rabit. ha
| 920 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:24:17am |
re: #916 Walter L. Newton
Now everyone in the Hollywood party set will want that.
A glowing pursedog would be easier to track in a dimly-lit club while stoned on alcohol and cocaine, so I do see a Hollywood market.
/
| 921 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:24:18am |
re: #913 NonNativeTexan
Yeah, it's like the British think they invented English or something..
I wonder what gave them that idea ...
:-))
| 922 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 28, 2009 9:24:29am |
re: #724 JustMyView
The reason that most of the auto dealers being closed are dealers that contributed to Republican candidates is that most auto dealers contribute to Republican candidates. That is, if you're an auto dealer who made a political contribution, it's overwhelmingly likely that you contributed to a Republican. The fact that most of the to-be-closed dealers lean Republican is simply a reflection of the fact that most dealers lean Republican.
That should be easy to prove or disprove. The population of all Chrysler dealers is known, and the contributions of a certain size are known. So it is a matter of testing the two groups - all Chrysler dealers vs those slated for closure. If there is a statistically significant deviation either way then you have identified a bias. One still has to consider other causes - for example, one could hypothesize that those dealers who are being closed are in rural areas that happen to be more likely to be "red" voters yet don't have the population to support the dealership. Again - it can be tested with public data.
As for the blanket assumption that "most dealers lean Republican", that too has to be tested regarding 2008. Many people with big $ gave money to Obama even though in past elections the "leaned Republican".
| 923 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 9:24:52am |
re: #878 realwest
Hey there Iceweasel if y'all are still out here, could you please answer my question in #723?
Who (whom?!) do you admire politically?
Oh poo, I answered you above-- I'm so slow. (insert joke about liberals here). LGF threads move so fast!
I don't really admire anyone politically; I think the system is corrupt and it corrupts. On both sides.
| 924 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:25:14am |
re: #919 turn
I got you beat, I spelled rabbit as rabit. ha
Maybe a "rabit" is a rabid rabbit? Maybe you are a trendsetter.
| 925 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:25:16am |
re: #911 yma o hyd
Hiya, Dianna!
Being charitable, I suppose he/she/it doesn't know about sarc tags and their use ... maybe?
Good morning, yma!
I don't think charity's much use to this fellow. We all know about Newt Gingrich's behavior; we know more than most of us want to about Republican critters who misbehave in their marriages.
And who could possibly forget Larry Craig?
| 926 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:25:26am |
re: #920 OldLineTexan
A glowing pursedog would be easier to track in a dimly-lit club while stoned on alcohol and cocaine, so I do see a Hollywood market.
/
What I actually meant was the Hollywood party people would like the gene themselves. Could you see the effect on the dance floor?
| 927 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:25:38am |
re: #921 yma o hyd
I wonder what gave them that idea ...
:-))
The Dutch printers invented the hard bits of spelling.
| 928 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:25:40am |
re: #916 Walter L. Newton
Now everyone in the Hollywood party set will want that.
Ew; glowing chihuahuas.
| 930 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:26:27am |
re: #926 Walter L. Newton
What I actually meant was the Hollywood party people would like the gene themselves. Could you see the effect on the dance floor?
I can see them wanting other parts to glow, so as to make nightvision features unnecessary during sex tape production.
| 931 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:26:28am |
re: #916 Walter L. Newton
Now everyone in the Hollywood party set will want that.
It might help some of the folks on Dancing with the Stars.
| 932 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:26:41am |
| 933 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 9:27:30am |
re: #901 realwest
I have no idea what the answer is to any of that, and I'm not sure the feds do either.
| 934 |
eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 28, 2009 9:27:40am |
re: #877 lawhawk
As best as I can tell, closing businesses that are too close to each other eliminates price pressure to cut the price on vehicles, increasing profits to those businesses that remain. It relieves pressure on GM to drop prices even further.
It also helps GM maintain inventory and reduce the number of cars outstanding on lots (fewer dealers holding fewer cars, reducing the need to drop prices sharply to reduce inventory end of year, etc.)
Of course, none of this helps GM or Chrysler if no one wants to buy your product because of perception.
Government Motors? Heh.
People would much rather drive a Ford since they eschewed federal assistance and are doing better. They're going to survive all this without bailouts, while GM and Chrysler are going to consumer ever larger amounts of federal funds with no endgame (or exit strategy). It's all being done on the fly.
I understand your points, but it seems a short term consideration (inventory). Assuming demand is fairly constant over the period of a year, supply will be reduced at the dealer level until the total supply equals demand (assuming they're over supplied now). In the longer term, the system will not remain over supplied as dealers will go out of business if they try to maintain too much inventory.
What I thought was very interesting was this quote in a Washington Examiner article from an attorney representing some closing Chrysler dealers after deposing some Chrysler execs:
"It became clear to us that Chrysler does not see the wisdom of terminating 25 percent of its dealers. It really wasn't Chrysler's decision. They are under enormous pressure from the President's automotive task force," said attorney Leonard Bellavia.
| 935 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:27:49am |
re: #932 Walter L. Newton
I was thinking of Hollywood starlets with glowing feet.
Eh, we're not there yet. Give it another 5-10 years.
| 936 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:27:49am |
re: #925 Dianna
Good morning, yma!
I don't think charity's much use to this fellow. We all know about Newt Gingrich's behavior; we know more than most of us want to about Republican critters who misbehave in their marriages.
And who could possibly forget Larry Craig?
Ahem - who is Larry Craig?
As for politicos misbehaving - yep, we've got a whole bunch of them right now, from all aprties, twisting and turning, and trying to weasel out any way they can, when we all know how disgustingly they have milked us, the taxpayers, with their fraudulent expense claims.
Well - the Inland Revenue is now onto them ... couldn't happen to a nicer bunch ...
| 937 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:29:03am |
re: #927 OldLineTexan
The Dutch printers invented the hard bits of spelling.
Yeah - we prefer our own inventive ways of spelling, though.
| 938 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:29:41am |
re: #929 Iron Fist
The Outlaws claim to be a social club focused on motorcycles. Hell's Angels say the same basic thing. Both have websites, which surprized the hell out of me. Anyway, they claim that they aren't criminals, and I'm sure some of them aren't. Maybe they really have cleaned up (the FBI busted members of both clubs fairly recently though), but I doubt that a former member of either could be appointed to the Supreme Court.
La Raza is kind of like that. They say they aren't racists anymore. Where else have we heard that before?
I was being sarcastic. As I said last night, my ex-wife of 13 years, who's family goes back 400 years in Colorado, are all too well aware of what the organization stands for, and it's racist.
And she has been in public health for 25 years, and works with indigent Hispanics every day, and the word from the street is the same.
If the organization stands for something else other than a racist organization, then they are not doing a very good job of educating the people they represent.
It's bullshit if anyone tells you otherwise.
| 939 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:29:43am |
re: #881 iceweasel
"personally, I feel like sometimes I should mention here that I'm the leftist moonbat etc that some people freak each other out about...." Oh so you're one of those folks that, iirc, zombie was talking about recruiting to LGF! Welcome aboard LGF!
But I am confused when you say "I was happy to vote for him [Obama] but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made." Do you mean that you voted for him EXPECTING him ("not at all surprised") to make the various decsions he's made?
Well, Obama is not one of my political favorites, although I don't agree that all of his decisions were bad.
But if I had my druthers and could appoint a POTUS it would have to be RUDY.
And if he wouldn't take the job (a distinct possiblity given the non-campaign he waged) I'd take - hold onto your seat here: Sara Palin or Mitt Romney.
BTW, you spelled color as colur - are perchance a British or commonwealth educated person?
| 940 |
yma o hyd Thu, May 28, 2009 9:29:51am |
re: #928 vxbush
Ew; glowing chihuahuas.
Well, at least one wouldn't sit on them by mistake, in a dark room ...
| 941 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 9:30:26am |
re: #923 iceweasel
Oh poo, I answered you above-- I'm so slow. (insert joke about liberals here). LGF threads move so fast!
I don't really admire anyone politically; I think the system is corrupt and it corrupts. On both sides.
Don't think the basic system is corrupt, but all the patronage crap thrown on top of it is. Does that system corrupt, or does it simply attract corrupt people? Seeing what I see here in Illinois, I'd say the latter. Honest people are never given a chance by the system. You should take a look at the Spinoff links I put up this morning regarding Illinois politics. It's sad, IMHO. We now have a Senator who apparently did get appointed in yet another pay-to-play scheme, and an ex-governor under indictment (yet again) for it.
| 942 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:30:27am |
re: #914 albusteve
reread #629....you are twisting my words....not nice
In #629 you stated "why do liberals have such trouble with the truth"
But see your #775: "liberal disregard for reality is well documented...it's in fact inherent in their ideology.."
Did I misrepresent what you said?
| 944 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:31:22am |
re: #936 yma o hyd
Ahem - who is Larry Craig?
As for politicos misbehaving - yep, we've got a whole bunch of them right now, from all aprties, twisting and turning, and trying to weasel out any way they can, when we all know how disgustingly they have milked us, the taxpayers, with their fraudulent expense claims.
Well - the Inland Revenue is now onto them ... couldn't happen to a nicer bunch ...
And why won't they eventually get away with it just as much as our politicians manage to slip the noose in cases like this. You'll have a few MP's and such take a fall, the majority will not be affected by this revelation.
| 945 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 9:31:39am |
re: #929 Iron Fist
The Outlaws claim to be a social club focused on motorcycles. Hell's Angels say the same basic thing. Both have websites, which surprized the hell out of me. Anyway, they claim that they aren't criminals, and I'm sure some of them aren't. Maybe they really have cleaned up (the FBI busted members of both clubs fairly recently though), but I doubt that a former member of either could be appointed to the Supreme Court.
La Raza is kind of like that. They say they aren't racists anymore. Where else have we heard that before?
The BNP, Vlaams Belang, and others come to mind.
| 946 |
KenJen Thu, May 28, 2009 9:32:08am |
re: #922 karmic_inquisitor
I'm not buying into this car dealership theory. I would not put it passed Obama to be vindictive but this seems little far fetched. However it would be interesting to see if blue states have received more money than red states regarding the stimulus package.
| 947 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:32:09am |
re: #940 yma o hyd
Well, at least one wouldn't sit on them by mistake, in a dark room ...
Oh, imagine how well that works with the cats! Wait, we have that.....too bad I can't have my black cat retroactively changed....
| 948 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:32:13am |
re: #936 yma o hyd
He was a Senator from Idaho. He was caught up in a very embarrassing and stupid sex scandal. See here: It's Wikipedia, but a cursory reading indicates it's reasonably accurate.
| 949 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 9:32:44am |
BBIAB - going grocery shopping. Supermarket is next door, walking distance.
| 950 |
albusteve Thu, May 28, 2009 9:33:20am |
re: #942 Flyers1974
In #629 you stated "why do liberals have such trouble with the truth"
But see your #775: "liberal disregard for reality is well documented...it's in fact inherent in their ideology.."
Did I misrepresent what you said?
yes you did...think it through
| 951 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:33:25am |
re: #936 yma o hyd
Ahem - who is Larry Craig?
The US Senator that got in trouble over his behavior in an airport toilet stall.
| 952 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:34:08am |
re: #946 KenJen
I'm not buying into this car dealership theory. I would not put it passed Obama to be vindictive but this seems little far fetched. However it would be interesting to see if blue states have received more money than red states regarding the stimulus package.
Blue states tend to heavily urban, and are definitely asking for more help.
| 953 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 9:34:13am |
re: #936 yma o hyd
Who's Larry Craig?
Thought you'd never ask. But I will tell. He was a GOP senator from Idaho who got into trouble toe tapping in a men's room, and was arrested for solicitation and lewd conduct. He pleaded to disorderly conduct.
| 954 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 9:34:21am |
re: #951 OldLineTexan
The US Senator that got in trouble over his behavior in an airport toilet stall.
"Wide stance"
| 955 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:34:31am |
re: #949 Walter L. Newton
BBIAB - going grocery shopping. Supermarket is next door, walking distance.
/Here's your Algore greenie point, and a strongly-worded letter from Saudi Arabia demanding that you buy an SUV.
/
| 956 |
johnnyreb Thu, May 28, 2009 9:34:33am |
re: #901 realwest
Good morning lawhawk! Say, do you know if those closed or to be closed dealers, who are apparently obliged to turn over their inventories to their surviving competitors had to pay for that inventory?
And if so who is going to repay them - cause if it's the competing dealers who remain open, then there really isn't a whole lot of cost/benefit in this approach. And if the Taxpayers are going to pay for those cars in those inventories we already have Government Motors. Say, wanna buy a car?!?
And if they didn't have to pay for the autos in their inventory and they are being closed, is there any particular reason why they should take good care of those cars that they no longer own? Say, wanna buy a car?
And ALL of this was brought to you by the folks who want to run healthcare in this country!
I read a story in the local paper from a dealer here over the weekend. Apparently they can keep their inventory. However they lose all factory incentives and support from their parent companies financial arm. According to one of the dealers quoted that is as bad as outright stealing of their cars. They also lose all factory warranty work which according to him is a huge amount of profit for them.
| 957 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 9:35:04am |
re: #893 VegasRick
BTW, as to who my political favourites are...I'm a lib and voted for Obama, but I assume all politicians are liars, frankly. That includes Obama, btw. I was happy to vote for him but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made.
Anybody that voted for ozero and is disappointed with him was not paying attention before the election. Blinded by the bullshit.
Dude, you chose to bold the part about "disappointed" and not the part about "but I am not at all surprised".
kinda like you would have said of McCain if he had been elected, 'I'm disappointed that he didn't do X (immigration, maybe?) but I am not at all surprised".
I'm disappointed in some of the decisions Obama has made, but they didn't surprise me...because I was always paying attention. ;)
| 958 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:35:13am |
re: #917 Honorary Yooper
No, there's no intrinic element to being a liberal or conservative that makes one lie. Sorry if it's a bit snarky, but that's what I've tried to tell a certain commentor here regarding his own favorite whipping boy. His is a group of conservatives that he goes off on.
To be quite honest, I've noticed that Hot Air, DU, Ace, and Kos all have their wingnuts, and the wingnuts seem to be far more vocal than the rational commentors. I don't think I've seen more people wish for harm to come to someone than I have at the above places. It is one of the reasons I like LGF. The sane commentors are more vocal, and wishes for harm are quickly deleted.
We wouldn't even be having this conversation if we were at the other websites you mentioned, I agree with you 100%. I was busting some balls earlier, and others have done the same, but the level of civility here is way above the other sites. Someone mentioned this last night, during a long long discussion on immigration, etc...
| 959 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:36:21am |
re: #954 VegasRick
"Wide stance"
Yes; he should have received a stern lecture from Barney Frank as part of his punishment. "An airport TOILET?" Frank fumed. "Just use your condo, you fool!"
| 960 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:37:08am |
re: #929 Iron Fist
"La Raza is kind of like that. They say they aren't racists anymore. Where else have we heard that before?"
Uh, Robert Byrd?!
| 961 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:37:43am |
re: #960 realwest
"La Raza is kind of like that. They say they aren't racists anymore. Where else have we heard that before?"
Uh, Robert Byrd?!
Byrd is a reformed racist. He hates everybody now.
| 963 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 28, 2009 9:38:09am |
Here is the list of Chrysler dealers to be closed with the names of the owners.
41 pages.
I have plugged a few of the names from California and Washington into opensecrets.org and found no political donations in 2008 so far.
[Link: www.opensecrets.org...]
But I have only sampled 10 names.
Anyone interested in taking pages and running them through to see if there establish the donor/closure rate? Then a list of all dealers is needed in order to do the same for the donor rates of all dealers.
It is a simple math problem but one that requires leg work which no one seems to have done (the stats so far are of the "how can this example be coincidence?" variety, which doesn't mean anything - coincidences happen. Random doesn't eliminate coincidence. They are, definitionaly, unrelated.
| 964 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:38:22am |
| 965 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:39:15am |
| 966 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:39:58am |
re: #963 karmic_inquisitor
I'm doing database entry, but I can take perhaps one page and make a start. It won't be statistically valid, but it will make sure we can actually talk with data.
| 967 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:40:10am |
| 968 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:40:39am |
re: #967 Kosh's Shadow
Maybe he's missing his sheet.
Always look under the hood before you buy a used politician.
| 969 |
vxbush Thu, May 28, 2009 9:41:30am |
re: #963 karmic_inquisitor
Here is the list of Chrysler dealers to be closed with the names of the owners.
[Link: www.scribd.com...]
41 pages.
I have plugged a few of the names from California and Washington into opensecrets.org and found no political donations in 2008 so far.
[Link: www.opensecrets.org...]
But I have only sampled 10 names.
Anyone interested in taking pages and running them through to see if there establish the donor/closure rate? Then a list of all dealers is needed in order to do the same for the donor rates of all dealers.
It is a simple math problem but one that requires leg work which no one seems to have done (the stats so far are of the "how can this example be coincidence?" variety, which doesn't mean anything - coincidences happen. Random doesn't eliminate coincidence. They are, definitionaly, unrelated.
I can't help now, but I could this weekend, maybe.
| 970 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:41:58am |
re: #950 albusteve
yes you did...think it through
Allright, maybe I'm getting tired here, it looks to me that I accurately represented the spirit of your statements. If not, sorry, I always try to play nice...
| 971 |
VegasRick Thu, May 28, 2009 9:42:22am |
| 972 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:42:52am |
Dangit, the Byrd example actually proves that it's OK for Sotomayor to say racist things and hold a high office. You can't be whiter than a Byrd in a sheet, so it's not special treatment for her based on race. Actually, it's just the same equal treatment afforded all Democrats.
Crap!
/
| 973 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:43:33am |
re: #968 OldLineTexan
Always look under the hood before you buy a used politician.
Kind of strange, isn't it, that unlike cars, politicians increase in value with age, up to a point. Until they have a voting record, lobbyists don't really know what they're buying.
BTW, years ago, some keyword-generated ad on the Boston Globe's site (probably through an ad company, though), said "Democrats for sale".
I think the ad robot just looked for key words and added "for sale", but I found it funny.
| 974 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 9:43:55am |
re: #958 Flyers1974 actually that was me; i said that we would not be able to have a discussion like that on red state OR daily kos; almost ALL of my post are meant as snark BUT in the discussion last night(as opposed to today) the respect you showed for opposing views was returned in kind; it is amazing what a little civility can do.............
| 976 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 9:44:23am |
And speaking of Chicago and Illinois corruption, Patrick Fitzgerald just keeps the hits on coming:
-Chicago SunTimes
| 977 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:45:08am |
| 978 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:45:59am |
Will Charles wake up before I finish lunch and have to go back to work?
| 979 |
realwest Thu, May 28, 2009 9:47:27am |
Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go do some chores.
Hope you all have a GREAT day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
| 980 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:47:57am |
re: #976 Honorary Yooper
I am sorry; I cannot see Patrick Fitzgerald's name without thinking of a very coarse and inappropriate joke.
/
| 981 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:49:20am |
re: #980 OldLineTexan
I am sorry; I cannot see Patrick Fitzgerald's name without thinking of a very coarse and inappropriate joke.
/
And Gerald Fitzpatrick?
| 982 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 28, 2009 9:49:28am |
Let's see, I made cheese blintzes and cheesecake, made my challah dough, made the gefilte fish, chicken soup is in the freezer. I want to make another dessert. I'm looking at a recipe for Raspberry Swirl Coffee Cake, looks real good. Should I also make something with chocolate or is that overkill?
If Charles doesn't put up a new thread soon I'm going to make that raspberry cake.
| 983 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:49:31am |
Abbas to present peace plan to Obama
In his meeting with US President Barack Obama on Thursday, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas is expected to propose the establishment of a supervisory committee, which would work under the Middle East Quartet in order to ensure that both Israel and the Palestinians are complying with their commitments.According to Israel Radio, in a meeting in Washington on Wednesday night, Abbas said that he will present Obama with new ideas connecting the Road Map plan and the Arab League peace initiative.
Regarding the Palestinians right of return, Abbas said that he is not asking that 5 million Palestinian refugees return to Israel and noted that he had reached an understanding on the issue with former prime minister Ehud Olmert.
"We will not destroy Israel," he reportedly pledged.
Let's see. From the top. The supervisory committee will probably be made of anti-Israel groups who will blame Israel while ignoring the terrorism from the Palis.
Abbas isn't insisting on all 5 million "refugees" to "return" to Israel. What do I think the number is still somewhat in the millions?
And the last one is either an outright lie, or "We'll let the world destroy Israel for us, since we haven't been able to."
| 984 |
JustMyView Thu, May 28, 2009 9:50:08am |
re: #922 karmic_inquisitor
That should be easy to prove or disprove. The population of all Chrysler dealers is known, and the contributions of a certain size are known. So it is a matter of testing the two groups - all Chrysler dealers vs those slated for closure. If there is a statistically significant deviation either way then you have identified a bias. One still has to consider other causes - for example, one could hypothesize that those dealers who are being closed are in rural areas that happen to be more likely to be "red" voters yet don't have the population to support the dealership. Again - it can be tested with public data.
As for the blanket assumption that "most dealers lean Republican", that too has to be tested regarding 2008. Many people with big $ gave money to Obama even though in past elections the "leaned Republican".
Did you read the article at the link I included? The data there, which reflect 2008 political contributions, indicate that 88% of all contributions given by auto dealers were given to Republicans. Because donations to Republican candidates were almost universal among auto dealers, it doesn't make sense that that factor could be used in determining whether to close a dealership or not. It's the same as saying, "All the auto dealers whose businesses are being closed have two legs." Well, guess what! So do the dealers whose businesses aren't being closed. .
| 986 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:50:31am |
| 987 |
FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 9:50:33am |
re: #957 iceweasel
I'm disappointed in some of the decisions Obama has made, but they didn't surprise me...because I was always paying attention. ;)
like what?
| 988 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:50:50am |
re: #982 Alouette
Let's see, I made cheese blintzes and cheesecake, made my challah dough, made the gefilte fish, chicken soup is in the freezer. I want to make another dessert. I'm looking at a recipe for Raspberry Swirl Coffee Cake, looks real good. Should I also make something with chocolate or is that overkill?
If Charles doesn't put up a new thread soon I'm going to make that raspberry cake.
Keep going, and if you could, howsabout a little pear tort with a kraskovac glaze?
| 989 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 9:51:05am |
re: #939 realwest
"personally, I feel like sometimes I should mention here that I'm the leftist moonbat etc that some people freak each other out about...." Oh so you're one of those folks that, iirc, zombie was talking about recruiting to LGF! Welcome aboard LGF!
Whoa, zombie was talking about recruiting people like me? I missed that! (and thanks very much for the welcome!)
But I am confused when you say "I was happy to vote for him [Obama] but colour me disappointed and not at all surprised at the various decisions he's made." Do you mean that you voted for him EXPECTING him ("not at all surprised") to make the various decsions he's made?
Yep. That's exactly what I mean.
Well, Obama is not one of my political favorites, although I don't agree that all of his decisions were bad.
I think he's been pretty good overall, frankly, and he's made a lot of decisions that conservatives ought to be happy with.
But if I had my druthers and could appoint a POTUS it would have to be RUDY.
And if he wouldn't take the job (a distinct possiblity given the non-campaign he waged) I'd take - hold onto your seat here: Sara Palin or Mitt Romney.
Oy...it's so sad, now I have to disagree with you. Ex-NYer here, and I fucking hate Rudy....and surprise surprise, it's not because he was a 'fascist' and cleaned up the city, it's because he REAMED the NYFD after 9/11.
BTW, you spelled color as colur - are perchance a British or commonwealth educated person?
Yep. Well spotted!
Proud American, some education (uni) in the UK. lived there a few years after.
| 990 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 28, 2009 9:51:13am |
re: #983 Kosh's Shadow
Abbas to present peace plan to Obama
Let's see. From the top. The supervisory committee will probably be made of anti-Israel groups who will blame Israel while ignoring the terrorism from the Palis.
Abbas isn't insisting on all 5 million "refugees" to "return" to Israel. What do I think the number is still somewhat in the millions?
And the last one is either an outright lie, or "We'll let the world destroy Israel for us, since we haven't been able to."
The "2 state solution" to the Arabs mean they get one Jew-free state right away, and they then swarm what is left of Israel with "refugees" so they get that state too.
| 991 |
JohnnyReb Thu, May 28, 2009 9:52:17am |
re: #985 taxfreekiller
I am waiting to pay off my mortgage with change from McDoanlds.
| 992 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 28, 2009 9:52:33am |
re: #988 Guanxi88
Keep going, and if you could, howsabout a little pear tort with a kraskovac glaze?
Sounds yummy, maybe I'll try that another time.
| 993 |
BatGuano Thu, May 28, 2009 9:53:24am |
re: #982 Alouette
I think a good thread would be something like a quote from, " Dr. Strangelove". Something everyone can enjoy and contribute to.
| 994 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 28, 2009 9:54:10am |
Why don't we get something going between now and this weekend.
I will run pages 1 through 4 through OpenSecrets on the link I provided (which is actually 3 pages of names because the first page is a title page).
I will try to do page 1 tonight and put it up in a google spreadsheet that others can share.
I will also post tips/quirks with how to search open secrets - it can be picky and give false matches as well as false misses. So each search can take 2 or 3 tries.
Anyone else wanting to take some pages just post how many. Count the entries after this post to determine which pages you will get. I will come back in a few hours on this thread and firm up who has what. We should be able to put the numbers together by the end of the weekend.
In the meantime, anyone who can find a similar list of ALL dealers (one that includes the actual name of the person who is the dealer) would do us all a great service.
| 995 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:54:10am |
re: #992 Alouette
Sounds yummy, maybe I'll try that another time.
If you're feeling adventurous, you cold always do a gulab jamun, and substitute slivo or some other fruit brandy for some or all of the rosewater in the syrup. Tasty stuff, I tell you what.
| 996 |
Flyers1974 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:54:23am |
re: #974 gtrs
actually that was me; i said that we would not be able to have a discussion like that on red state OR daily kos; almost ALL of my post are meant as snark BUT in the discussion last night(as opposed to today) the respect you showed for opposing views was returned in kind; it is amazing what a little civility can do.............
I may be mistaken but I don't think Redstate, malkin, etc... allow any opposing views, at least not liberal opposing views. During my few looks at DK, I saw one conservative, very up-front, very respectful, who was posting. Most were respectful in kind, except one jerk. And that one jerky guy is the one who will probably stick in the conservative dude's head, just human nature. But anyway, much better discussion here, a wide range of views.
| 997 |
BatGuano Thu, May 28, 2009 9:54:30am |
re: #993 BatGuano
I think a good thread would be something like a quote from, " Dr. Strangelove". Something everyone can enjoy and contribute to.
Ooops. Forgot :)
| 998 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:54:33am |
re: #993 BatGuano
I think a good thread would be something like a quote from, " Dr. Strangelove". Something everyone can enjoy and contribute to.
Gentlemen! You can't fight here! This is the War Room.
| 999 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:54:46am |
re: #993 BatGuano
I think a good thread would be something like a quote from, " Dr. Strangelove". Something everyone can enjoy and contribute to.
Mandrake, have you ever seen a Russian drink a glass of water?
| 1000 |
opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 9:55:08am |
re: #972 OldLineTexan
Dangit, the Byrd example actually proves that it's OK for Sotomayor to say racist things and hold a high office. You can't be whiter than a Byrd in a sheet, so it's not special treatment for her based on race. Actually, it's just the same equal treatment afforded all Democrats.
Crap!
/
Yeah but Byrd is elected, there is a referendum on him every six years.
A Supreme Court appointment is supposed to be based on merit.
The question is does Sotomayor rate the appointment.
| 1001 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:55:26am |
| 1002 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 9:55:48am |
re: #993 BatGuano
I think a good thread would be something like a quote from, " Dr. Strangelove". Something everyone can enjoy and contribute to.
| 1003 |
Macker Thu, May 28, 2009 9:55:54am |
re: #989 iceweasel
Point of Clarification: It's actually the FDNY.
| 1004 |
BatGuano Thu, May 28, 2009 9:56:06am |
re: #999 Guanxi88
I was only joking, but I am pleased there are fans!
| 1005 |
bosforus Thu, May 28, 2009 9:56:12am |
re: #813 realwest
Um, I thought we were talking about Chrysler dealerships,no?
And your map (well, Googles' map)doesn't begin to show even 3% of GM dealerships).
I know the maps weren't great, I was just saying it wouldn't be that hard to get the info.
| 1006 |
OldLineTexan Thu, May 28, 2009 9:56:38am |
re: #1000 opnion
Yeah but Byrd is elected, there is a referendum on him every six years.
A Supreme Court appointment is supposed to be based on merit.
The question is does Sotomayor rate the appointment.
I can criticize her "issues", qualified or not, actually.
| 1007 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:56:38am |
re: #999 Guanxi88
Mandrake, have you ever seen a Russian drink a glass of water?
Those commies and Islamicists are polluting our precious bodily fluids.
That's why I ordered Wing Attack Plan R on both the Eye-ranians and the Norks.
| 1008 |
CIA Reject Thu, May 28, 2009 9:57:16am |
re: #1001 Kosh's Shadow
Forgot what? You never did answer to the Coca-Cola company?
"Heck, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff..."
| 1009 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:57:50am |
re: #1007 Kosh's Shadow
Those commies and Islamicists are polluting our precious bodily fluids.
That's why I ordered Wing Attack Plan R on both the Eye-ranians and the Norks.
George C. Scott as General Buck Turgidson was simply brilliant, especially when he gets the phone call, in the war room, from his mistress. Good stuff.
| 1010 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 9:59:00am |
re: #984 JustMyView
How about we fact check that?
I've got all the names on Page 2. I'm searching.
Last name was Antwerpen, which is fascinating - that is a family that comes from Antwerp!
| 1011 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 9:59:07am |
re: #1008 CIA Reject
"Heck, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff..."
One prophylactic dee-vice....
| 1012 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 9:59:17am |
re: #1008 CIA Reject
"Heck, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff..."
Funny, I thought it was "Sheeet".
Here's what I got off the web:
- One forty-five caliber automatic
- Two boxes of ammunition
- Four days' concentrated emergency rations
- One drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine,
vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills
- One miniature combination Ruoosian phrase book and Bible
- One hundred dollars in rubles
- One hundred dollars in gold
- Nine packs of chewing gum
- One issue of prophylactics
- Three lipsticks
- Three pair of nylon stockings.
Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff."
| 1013 |
opnion Thu, May 28, 2009 9:59:23am |
re: #1006 OldLineTexan
I can criticize her "issues", qualified or not, actually.
She is an activist judge & will no doubt remain so. Really though, those are the only appointments that Obama will send up.
| 1014 |
capitalist piglet Thu, May 28, 2009 9:59:50am |
re: #963 karmic_inquisitor
I should probably mention that I gave money to John McCain in '08, and my donation doesn't show up on their site, for some reason. I have no idea why.
| 1015 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 10:00:02am |
re: #1010 Dianna
How about we fact check that?
I've got all the names on Page 2. I'm searching.
Last name was Antwerpen, which is fascinating - that is a family that comes from Antwerp!
Do Vlams Belang know that a Belgian is getting pushed around like this?
///
| 1016 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 10:00:10am |
re: #957 iceweasel i am a conservative democrat who voted for obama as well; i have also not agreed with everything he has done BUT if i agreed with all of his policies that would make me the equal to one of those tea-bagging paulians..................
| 1018 |
Macker Thu, May 28, 2009 10:01:48am |
re: #1012 Kosh's Shadow
Funny, I thought it was "Sheeet".
Here's what I got off the web:
- One forty-five caliber automatic
- Two boxes of ammunition
- Four days' concentrated emergency rations
- One drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine,
vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills
- One miniature combination Ruoosian phrase book and Bible
- One hundred dollars in rubles
- One hundred dollars in gold
- Nine packs of chewing gum
- One issue of prophylactics
- Three lipsticks
- Three pair of nylon stockings.Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff."
Guess Major Kong didn't need it after all:
| 1019 |
FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 10:02:22am |
Harry Reid has a new book out:
So, is harry "this war is lost" Reid still an a-hole? Why yes, yes he is.
While no one expects Reid to praise George W. Bush, the degree to which he is judgmental and catty regarding the former president pretty much speaks for itself. Three pages in, after lamely trying to establish his bipartisan bona fides by talking up George H. W. Bush, Reid shares this charming anecdote about his early days in the Senate: “[Former Texas senator and vice-presidential candidate Lloyd] Bentsen went on and on effusively about what a quality man President-elect [H. W.] Bush was. Then he paused and said, ‘But watch out for his wife; she’s a bitch.’ I have never had anything against Mrs. Bush, but guided by Bentsen’s crude advice, I’ve always said that our forty-third president is more his mother than his dad.”
What’s the purpose of recording for posterity a bit of hearsay defaming a woman Reid admits he has no cause to dislike? Is Reid really so petty as to insult someone’s mother? Why yes, yes he is.
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
| 1020 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 10:03:00am |
re: #1015 Guanxi88
Do Vlams Belang know that a Belgian is getting pushed around like this?
///
I think they'd only care if it was a Flemming. If it's a Walloon, they'd probably cheer on the pushing around.
| 1021 |
BatGuano Thu, May 28, 2009 10:03:36am |
re: #1002 lawhawk
Thank you. The most memorable scene from the movie!
| 1022 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 10:03:40am |
re: #1020 Honorary Yooper
I think they'd only care if it was a Flemming.
So, James Bond fans, are they?
;)
| 1023 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, May 28, 2009 10:04:10am |
re: #1016 gtrs
downding for the use of the tea-bagging.
| 1024 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 10:04:30am |
| 1025 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 10:04:58am |
re: #1020 Honorary Yooper
I think they'd only care if it was a Flemming. If it's a Walloon, they'd probably cheer on the pushing around.
I figured, since the name was Belgian, and since it was "obviously" being done by a crypto-Muslim, they'd want to know about. Grist for their mill, as it were.
| 1026 |
JustMyView Thu, May 28, 2009 10:05:48am |
re: #1010 Dianna
How about we fact check that?
By all means. But the opensecrets.org database uses the same FEC data as the data used in the Nate Silver analysis I linked to above, and Doug Ross, the conservative who is writing about this ostensible conspiracy found the same thing. That is, he found that almost all political contributions made by auto dealers were made to Republican candidates.
| 1027 |
lawhawk Thu, May 28, 2009 10:07:12am |
re: #1024 Honorary Yooper
You can never say never again, but I wouldn't take my chances in the casino. Royale screwing if you get me at the tables playing poker, although there's Pussy Galore at the table alongside Goldfinger. /is that overboard on the puns?
| 1029 |
BatGuano Thu, May 28, 2009 10:08:35am |
| 1030 |
redstateredneck Thu, May 28, 2009 10:09:18am |
re: #805 OldLineTexan
Well, that is too cool. My daughter ended up with an Epson in her recent Macbook purchase, not an HP.
I bought a Macbook at Christmas for my daughter and didn't get shit.>:-[
| 1031 |
FrogMarch Thu, May 28, 2009 10:09:46am |
re: #1019 FrogMarch
correction: Harry Reid's flop is now out on paperback. Come celebrate.
| 1032 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 10:09:59am |
re: #1028 Macker
One of my all-time Bond quotes: "Pussy!"
I like some of the remarks at the end of the movie, like "He's keeping the British end up".
| 1034 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, May 28, 2009 10:10:16am |
| 1035 |
1SG(ret) Thu, May 28, 2009 10:10:54am |
| 1037 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 28, 2009 10:11:24am |
re: #1036 Iron Fist
Upding for the upding of the downding. That is almost as much fun as recursion :-)
Recursion. (n) See recursion
| 1038 |
SixDegrees Thu, May 28, 2009 10:11:30am |
re: #1033 BatGuano
As in Pussy Galore?
Pussy: "My name's Pussy Galore."
Bond: "Yes, of course it is."
| 1040 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, May 28, 2009 10:11:53am |
re: #984 JustMyView
Did you read the article at the link I included? The data there, which reflect 2008 political contributions, indicate that 88% of all contributions given by auto dealers were given to Republicans. Because donations to Republican candidates were almost universal among auto dealers, it doesn't make sense that that factor could be used in determining whether to close a dealership or not. It's the same as saying, "All the auto dealers whose businesses are being closed have two legs." Well, guess what! So do the dealers whose businesses aren't being closed. .
That post shows that Nate is just as susceptible to sampling fallacies as anyone else. And you bolded emphasis of a restatement of an inferance based on the same fallacy doesn't eliminate the fallacy.
Statisticians are valuable because they can, with a measurable degree of certainty, establish a trend based on a subset of all data points. The assumption under that is that needs a statistician because it is not possible to sample all data points or it is too expensive.
In this case, neither of those assumptions are true.
Yet Nate went to the Huffpo database and hit the self identified "auto dealers" in the occupation field using the variations of that description that he could think up. He came up with 1000 hits and didn't eliminate duplicates.
There are approximately 4000 Chrysler dealers and about 1000 of them are being closed.
Nates inference applies to a sloppy sample of all dealers of all makes of vehicles in the united states who happened to identify themselves as such on their donation forms. And he didn't eliminate duplicates, yet summed the donations of his "different" sets of data and drew out a big number.
Whooopie.
We can sample all data and eliminate all duplicates and definitively find the donation rate for both populations.
BTW - using occupations on those searches is useless when tracking big donors. Take a guy I know named John J Moores. His occupation varies between Entrepreneur, Retired, Baseball team owner, Lawyer and Programmer. His zip codes are just as varied.
It takes leg work to sample the donor records.
| 1041 |
BatGuano Thu, May 28, 2009 10:12:14am |
re: #1034 unrealizedviewpoint
I worked graveyard. You figure it out then let me know what I meant. :)
| 1042 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 28, 2009 10:13:06am |
re: #982 Alouette
Let's see, I made cheese blintzes and cheesecake, made my challah dough, made the gefilte fish, chicken soup is in the freezer. I want to make another dessert. I'm looking at a recipe for Raspberry Swirl Coffee Cake, looks real good. Should I also make something with chocolate or is that overkill?
If Charles doesn't put up a new thread soon I'm going to make that raspberry cake.
I approve of chocolate for Shavuos, on the grounds that it would have been a land flowing with milk chocolate if only the nearest source of cocoa beans hadn't been thousands of miles away.
| 1043 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 10:14:02am |
re: #996 Flyers1974
as a conservative democrat, when i post on kos some of the folks(to be fair, it is the "vocal few" you speak of)have a fit if any negative word is spoken about obama from the right BUT those SAME folks trash him consistently from THE LEFT! that type of hypocrisyis a big joke to me; the reason i like this site centers around the "pro-science" stances the owner(charles) takes as well as some of his views on foreign affairs; i really could care less about the stuff dealing with the republican party, i just like to "rattle the cage" of those i find dismissive(like to the folks who denigrate iceweasel simply because she self-identies as a "liberal"; i have found ALL of her post to be reasonable, her detractors; not so much.....)
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 28, 2009 10:14:44am |
re: #1027 lawhawk
If Pussy Galore is there, where's Dr. Goodhead, Octopussy, and Triple X? However, I'd stay away from Xenia Onatopp. Heard she has a crushing personality.
| 1045 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 10:18:58am |
re: #1043 gtrs
as a conservative democrat, when i post on kos some of the folks(to be fair, it is the "vocal few" you speak of)have a fit if any negative word is spoken about obama from the right BUT those SAME folks trash him consistently from THE LEFT! that type of hypocrisyis a big joke to me; the reason i like this site centers around the "pro-science" stances the owner(charles) takes as well as some of his views on foreign affairs; i really could care less about the stuff dealing with the republican party, i just like to "rattle the cage" of those i find dismissive(like to the folks who denigrate iceweasel simply because she self-identies as a "liberal"; i have found ALL of her post to be reasonable, her detractors; not so much.....)
And I have found you to be just a simple fucking jerk. You make statements, make statements, make statements, but barely respond to our inquiries.
You're setting yourself up as prime troll meat. Of course, it is also apparent from the tone and tenor of your posts that you are a immature attention whore.
Smack.
| 1046 |
Dianna Thu, May 28, 2009 10:19:33am |
If people are still here, and care:
of the first 17 Chrysler Dealers who are going to be closed, not one of them have donated to a single political cause in either the 2008 or the upcoming 2010 cycle.
You tell me, folks. If you want to try it, and check me (I might have made mistakes), I don't object.
| 1048 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 10:21:21am |
re: #1045 Walter L. Newton
And I have found you to be just a simple fucking jerk. You make statements, make statements, make statements, but barely respond to our inquiries.
You're setting yourself up as prime troll meat. Of course, it is also apparent from the tone and tenor of your posts that you are a immature attention whore.
Smack.
Jeez, Walter! If you're gonna beat somebody down, at least let 'em get to their feet once in a while; rib-kicking when they're on the ground.....
| 1049 |
aggieann Thu, May 28, 2009 10:22:23am |
re: #1044 Honorary Yooper
If Pussy Galore is there, where's Dr. Goodhead, Octopussy, and Triple X? However, I'd stay away from Xenia Onatopp. Heard she has a crushing personality.
Don't tell me you're xeniaphobic!
| 1050 |
JustMyView Thu, May 28, 2009 10:22:36am |
re: #1040 karmic_inquisitor
We can sample all data and eliminate all duplicates and definitively find the donation rate for both populations.
Have at it. I look forward to seeing the results of your analysis, but I would find that list of all dealers before investing too much time in the effort. Without that list, you'll be limited to rediscovering what Doug Ross has already reported--that most of the to-be-shuttered dealers contributed to Republican candidates in 2008.
| 1052 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, May 28, 2009 10:23:42am |
re: #1048 Guanxi88
Jeez, Walter! If you're gonna beat somebody down, at least let 'em get to their feet once in a while; rib-kicking when they're on the ground.....
Have you check GTRS' comments up thread?
| 1053 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 10:23:45am |
re: #941 Honorary Yooper
Don't think the basic system is corrupt, but all the patronage crap thrown on top of it is. Does that system corrupt, or does it simply attract corrupt people? Seeing what I see here in Illinois, I'd say the latter [...]
[...] You should take a look at the Spinoff links I put up this morning regarding Illinois politics..
I think you're right. I wasn't precise enough--
The system isn't intrinsically flawed, but it's flawed extrinsically-- the influence of external pressures corrupts.
thanks, I promise to look at your spinoff links. Cheers, and cheers again for clarifying my own meaning--to myself as well as others. Thanks!
| 1054 |
JustMyView Thu, May 28, 2009 10:25:40am |
Let me amend that.
". . .most of the to-be-shuttered dealers contributed to Republican candidates in 2008"
Should say: "most of the to-be-shuttered dealers who made political contributions in 2008 contributed to Republican candidates"
As Dianna's preliminary report indicates, some will not have contributed to any candidates at all.
| 1055 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 10:26:45am |
re: #1052 Walter L. Newton
Have you check GTRS' comments up thread?
I'm not saying it's uncalled for, but there are times when one likes to see a little sportsmanship - keeps it interesting.
What you wanna do is stagger or stun the troll, let it spit out teeth and stagger to its feet, and then hit it again. See, the effort of standing up after each wave of punishment taxes the beast, weakening it, and making the next kick all the more powerful.
To just knock it down in the first round and kick the bejeezus out of it takes away from the spectators' enjoyment of the spectacle.
| 1056 |
Guanxi88 Thu, May 28, 2009 10:29:30am |
re: #1055 Guanxi88
I'm not saying it's uncalled for, but there are times when one likes to see a little sportsmanship - keeps it interesting.
What you wanna do is stagger or stun the troll, let it spit out teeth and stagger to its feet, and then hit it again. See, the effort of standing up after each wave of punishment taxes the beast, weakening it, and making the next kick all the more powerful.
To just knock it down in the first round and kick the bejeezus out of it takes away from the spectators' enjoyment of the spectacle.
It's the difference between a slaughterhouse and a bullfight.
| 1057 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 10:29:55am |
re: #1016 gtrs
i am a conservative democrat who voted for obama as well; i have also not agreed with everything he has done BUT if i agreed with all of his policies that would make me the equal to one of those tea-bagging paulians..................
I'm a little suspicious of anyone who claims they can agree with ALL of the policies that any politician promotes, whether the politician is on the right ot the left.
We joke about BDS and ODS, but in my mind the real derangement syndrome is from people who mindlessly cheer whatever 'their' side does--and i apply that to people who cheer Obama endlessly just as much as I do anyone who supported any particular republican endlessly.
I've no idea why you're being downdinged for that comment. It sounded really reasonable to me.
| 1059 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 10:47:18am |
i agree with you about the "cheering" thing as if there is a game going on and your side is "winning"(i prefer sports for that sort of thing; GO MAGIC!); for example, last night on the thread dealing with sotomayor's nomination, i made a simple prediction that she would be confirmed with at least 72 BI-PARTISAN votes in the US senate and you would have thought that i just threw a fastball at albert pujol's head!(pardon me for the sports metaphor, i could not resist); i was being honest but i think people viewed that as a negative attack(against whom? i don't have a clue);on that note, from watching today's news, i am beginning to think that my 72 BI-PARTISAN vote prediction was much too CONSERVATIVE
| 1060 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 10:47:48am |
re: #1043 gtrs
as a conservative democrat, when i post on kos some of the folks(to be fair, it is the "vocal few" you speak of)have a fit if any negative word is spoken about obama from the right BUT those SAME folks trash him consistently from THE LEFT! that type of hypocrisyis a big joke to me
i'm going to ignore any internecine fighting here (but thank you very much gtrs for saying nice things about my posts)-- I'll just say I can't stand kos or moveon or the comments sections at huffPo because for me, it's the equivalent of a reasonable conservative reading Free Republic comments or watching Glenn beck. It's like bathing in a sewer!
And gtrs is completely right when he(or she) says some on the left scream down any and all criticism of Obama. Even so, the best criticisms of Obama are coming from the LEFT.
| 1062 |
gtrs Thu, May 28, 2009 10:55:12am |
re: #1060 iceweasel
MY BEEF with huffpo is that science-denying no vaccination crap; how can any parent claim to look out for the best interest of their children and yet not have them given their shots?(full disclosure: i have no children of my own but i think my opinion is valid nonetheless); so in regards to huffpo(they have many fine writers in OTHER areas), i won't read it until they stop with the jenny mccarthy "head in the sand" routine dealing with autism and the like; i think moveon is a little over-rated by the right(just like in the day, i thought the "moral majority" was over-rated from the left); just my opinion
| 1063 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #1003 Macker
Point of Clarification: It's actually the FDNY.
Whoops! thank you for the correction.
It was a typo on my part. In fact one of my grandfathers was one of New York's Bravest.
| 1064 |
The Left Thu, May 28, 2009 11:06:49am |
re: #1062 gtrs
MY BEEF with huffpo is that science-denying no vaccination crap; how can any parent claim to look out for the best interest of their children and yet not have them given their shots?(full disclosure: i have no children of my own but i think my opinion is valid nonetheless); so in regards to huffpo(they have many fine writers in OTHER areas), i won't read it until they stop with the jenny mccarthy "head in the sand" routine dealing with autism and the like; i think moveon is a little over-rated by the right(just like in the day, i thought the "moral majority" was over-rated from the left); just my opinion
I'm totally with you on that. I don't have kids either, but the anti-vaccination stuff is so clearly bullshit, and so dangerous....also I'm with you on the importance of science in general.
and i agree--moveon is like the right's boogeyman now, just like the moral majority was the scary boogeyman for the left in the 80's. Mostly a madeup fear to drive donations and activism.
| 1065 |
Killgore Trout Thu, May 28, 2009 11:43:47am |
The Sonia Sotomayor Case File: A Pundit's Primer
From sports to impounded vehicles and everything in between, six of the new Supreme Court nominee's decisions as a judge shed light on her judicial philosophy — whether you're for her or against her.
| 1066 |
MandyManners Thu, May 28, 2009 11:51:47am |
re: #716 Kosh's Shadow
When you download, it should give you an exe or a zip file. Double-click and follow instructions, mostly. If it is a zip file, extract it and look for a Readme or other document. If not, there should be a setup.exe
If no setup.exe, connect the printer and browse to where you extracted the files. You might have to try a few directories until it is happy.
But generally, there is an exe that then gives you instructions. And installs a lot of extra stuff. That should tell you when to reconnect the printer.
I'm not 100 per cent sure what all that means but, I'm gonna' take the plunge and do it. I found the Microsof Office 2007 disk with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, et cet. on it. I cannot find my printer disk but, I'm not gonna' worry about that.
THANKS!
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