NAACP Passes Resolution Condemning Tea Party Racism

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I’ve occasionally had differences with the NAACP, but in this case they’re absolutely right — it’s long past time for Tea Party organizers to take a stand against the significant racist element in their movement: NAACP Passes Tea Party Racism Resolution.

The resolution was approved in a vote by more than 2,000 delegates at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Kansas City.

Versions of the resolution condemned “explicitly racist behavior” in the Tea Party movement and called on people to “repudiate” what it described as racist elements of the Tea Party. The final text of the resolution has not yet been made available, however, and that language may have changed.

As the Associated Press notes, NAACP President Ben Jealous has said the Tea Party movement needs to “be responsible members of this democracy and make sure they don’t tolerate bigots or bigotry among their members.”

Members of the Tea Party movement vehemently deny that their movement is racist.

Note: every word in that last sentence is a link, and there were lots more.

The racist elements of the Tea Party movement are only one of their most visible problems, and maybe not even the worst. The influence of the weird Ron Paul paleo-libertarian cult is also a huge problem, the influence of extreme fundamentalist religious sects is another, and the influence of the John Birch Society and their offshoots is still another.

The Tea Party movement is a deeply destructive force in American politics.

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815 comments
1 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:37:51pm

They haven’t been viewing LGF, have they?

2 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:38:06pm

And this will have precisely *zero* impact on the Tea Party and their leadership pushing out the racists. The Tea Party organizers will continue claiming that theirs is not a movement based on racism and that they don’t condone such activities - all while gathering after gathering includes racist messages.

3 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:38:08pm

Who wants to bet on the tea party’s response?

Put me down for “We do try to cast out all racists who are members of the tea party. Sadly for everyone we turn away another liberal plant trying to make us look bad pops up!”

4 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:38:17pm

a vehement denial is the most convincing sort…yup, look it up

5 researchok  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:40:17pm

Best news of the day. Doing and saying nothing is not an option when it comes to racism.

When ugly elements in the TP purport to act in your name or purport to speak for you, there is an obligation to stand up and make very clear there is no place for them within your proximity or within the movement.

End of story.

6 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:40:34pm

re: #2 lawhawk

And this will have precisely *zero* impact on the Tea Party and their leadership pushing out the racists. The Tea Party organizers will continue claiming that theirs is not a movement based on racism and that they don’t condone such activities - all while gathering after gathering includes racist messages.

Sad but true, my man, sad but true. You throw out the idiots, the racists, and those afflicted with ODS, and you’ll have twelve Libertarians standing around asking themselves “WTF happened to the Movement?”.

7 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:41:18pm

re: #3 jamesfirecat

Who wants to bet on the tea party’s response?

Put me down for “We do try to cast out all racists who are members of the tea party. Sadly for everyone we turn away another liberal plant trying to make us look bad pops up!”

I’ll go with “We neither promote, nor condone racism, and the only place racism exists is in the minds of those who disagree with our movement” for $1000, Alex.

8 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:42:22pm

re: #2 lawhawk

And this will have precisely *zero* impact on the Tea Party and their leadership pushing out the racists. The Tea Party organizers will continue claiming that theirs is not a movement based on racism and that they don’t condone such activities - all while gathering after gathering includes racist messages.

too bad, toss the baby out with the bathwater in that case

9 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:43:10pm

re: #3 jamesfirecat

Who wants to bet on the tea party’s response?

Put me down for “We do try to cast out all racists who are members of the tea party. Sadly for everyone we turn away another liberal plant trying to make us look bad pops up!”

Alternate response: the NAACP pulled the race card!

//Somebody call for a wahmbulance!

10 Jeff In Ohio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:46:32pm

Denial, it’s the new white meat.

11 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:46:55pm

Are we sure this isn’t just a reprint of what they said about Bush in 2000 and 2004? Or is this one new and they’ll come out with the condemnation of the republican party at its usual time?

12 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:48:21pm

re: #2 lawhawk

And this will have precisely *zero* impact on the Tea Party and their leadership pushing out the racists. The Tea Party organizers will continue claiming that theirs is not a movement based on racism and that they don’t condone such activities - all while gathering after gathering includes racist messages.


The usual wingnut sites are making the usual excuses over this. They just refuse to acknowledge the problem. The Tea Parties and right wing blogs are looking more like a white rights movement.

13 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:49:31pm

All Star Game tonight…Go National League! Stomp on those designated-hitter dependent wimps.

14 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:49:54pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

The usual wingnut sites are making the usual excuses over this. They just refuse to acknowledge the problem. The Tea Parties and right wing blogs are looking more like a white rights movement.

Not to the majority of their supporters, members, the voters that they appeal to. I may not matter what they look like if they get the support they are looking for.

That’s the real problem. It looks like they are on the road to big wins.

15 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:50:16pm

re: #9 Gus 802

Alternate response: the NAACP pulled the race card!

//Somebody call for a wahmbulance!

NAACP pulled the race card out of the Tea Party’s back pocket.

16 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:50:43pm

re: #11 RogueOne

Are we sure this isn’t just a reprint of what they said about Bush in 2000 and 2004? Or is this one new and they’ll come out with the condemnation of the republican party at its usual time?

First push back.

Sad, but it makes my stance even more clear.

17 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:51:23pm

OT:

Ooh! An All Star game!

Shiny!

That zaftig black chick who sang the Anthem was outstanding. And not an Autotune in sight.re: #11 RogueOne

Are we sure this isn’t just a reprint of what they said about Bush in 2000 and 2004? Or is this one new and they’ll come out with the condemnation of the republican party at its usual time?

No. This is new and particularly nasty. Why the R’s don’t officially cut themselves off from the extremists in the TPM is beyond me. They lose the same swing voters that elected in Obama in ‘08.

18 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:51:25pm

re: #15 darthstar

NAACP pulled the race card out of the Tea Party’s back pocket.

They have a lot of pockets. They’re wearing an army field jacket and carpenters pants.

/

19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:51:33pm

Friend of mine is a Tea-Party candidate for Congress. I’ve known him since he was a kid. Of course, he’ll get clobbered. But, there ain’t a racist bone in his body that I’ve seen any evidence of.

There are racists in the NAACP also.

20 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:51:34pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

The usual wingnut sites are making the usual excuses over this. They just refuse to acknowledge the problem. The Tea Parties and right wing blogs are looking more like a white rights movement.

The big question is whether the country in November will embrace the new racism by supporting teabagger candidates, or if they’ll vote to reject it.

21 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:52:46pm

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Friend of mine is a Tea-Party candidate for Congress. I’ve known him since he was a kid. Of course, he’ll get clobbered. But, there ain’t a racist bone in his body that I’ve seen any evidence of.

There are racists in the NAACP also.

PUSH BACK!

22 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:52:50pm

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Friend of mine is a Tea-Party candidate for Congress. I’ve known him since he was a kid. Of course, he’ll get clobbered. But, there ain’t a racist bone in his body that I’ve seen any evidence of.

There are racists in the NAACP also.

How can someone in the NAACP be racist?

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:52:51pm

re: #13 darthstar

The National Anthem was atrocious.

Those kids on “Glee” sound much better on auto-tune.

24 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:53:21pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Second pushback?

25 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:53:42pm

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Friend of mine is a Tea-Party candidate for Congress. I’ve known him since he was a kid. Of course, he’ll get clobbered. But, there ain’t a racist bone in his body that I’ve seen any evidence of.

There are racists in the NAACP also.

Got a picture of them carrying signs at political events?

No?

Hmmm…

26 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:53:46pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

Do you guys really wanna go with this one?

Like really?

27 rwdflynavy  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:54:15pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

How can someone in the NAACP be racist?

Duh! It says Colored People right in the Title!!!
//

28 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:54:27pm

re: #26 windsagio

Do you guys really wanna go with this one?

Like really?

Comment 26. And Brookly is absent.

29 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:54:33pm

re: #26 windsagio

Do you guys really wanna go with this one?

Like really?

Walter sees opportunity in this discussion. Best not to take the bait.

30 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:55:08pm

re: #29 darthstar

Calling it as bait seemed like a good way to handle it :)

31 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:55:46pm

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The National Anthem was atrocious.

Those kids on “Glee” sound much better on auto-tune.

I loved it. That tune should be absolutely belted. She rocked.

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:56:06pm

re: #17 austin_blue

You serious? She was sharp and flat all in the same song!

33 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:56:31pm

re: #26 windsagio

Do you guys really wanna go with this one?

Like really?

What do you mean… I’m bothered by statements like “How can someone in the NAACP be racist?” or “Are we sure this isn’t just a reprint of what they said about Bush in 2000 and 2004? Or is this one new and they’ll come out with the condemnation of the republican party at its usual time?”

What the fuck is the matter with you… I didn’t state my distain at these sort of comment EXACTLY the way you want me too.

I’ll tell you what… tell me what I am suppose to say?

34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:56:58pm

re: #31 austin_blue

I loved it. That tune should be absolutely belted. She rocked.

One of the glorious things of music, ain’t it. One man’s trash, another man’s treasure.

35 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:57:23pm

re: #29 darthstar

re: #30 windsagio

You both are wrong.

36 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:58:27pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

What do you mean… I’m bothered by statements like “How can someone in the NAACP be racist?” or “Are we sure this isn’t just a reprint of what they said about Bush in 2000 and 2004? Or is this one new and they’ll come out with the condemnation of the republican party at its usual time?”

What the fuck is the matter with you… I didn’t state my distain at these sort of comment EXACTLY the way you want me too.

I’ll tell you what… tell me what I am suppose to say?

Excuse me… you pissed me off so much I’m clipping my own comments… this bothers me “There are racists in the NAACP also.”

37 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:58:32pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton


I’ll tell you what… tell me what I am suppose to say?

The same thing most people not affected by racism, myself included, should…as little as possible. Especially as little as possible that could distract from the topic, which is the racism exhibited by the Tea Party on several occasions.

38 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 5:59:39pm

re: #37 darthstar

The same thing most people not affected by racism, myself included, should…as little as possible. Especially as little as possible that could distract from the topic, which is the racism exhibited by the Tea Party on several occasions.

I agree… but what the fuck is wrong with you? You can’t even be on the same page as someone else without pushing them around… tough shit.

39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:00:46pm

re: #37 darthstar

The same thing most people not affected by racism, myself included, should…as little as possible. Especially as little as possible that could distract from the topic, which is the racism exhibited by some people in the Tea Party on several occasions.

Little editing there.

40 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:00:47pm

re: #38 Walter L. Newton

I agree… but what the fuck is wrong with you? You can’t even be on the same page as someone else without pushing them around… tough shit.

No need to get hostile. I know you enjoy playing both sides on hot topics, and assumed that was just another example, if I was wrong about that, I apologize.

41 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:00:55pm

Note: The NAACP isn’t a political party.

42 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:01:17pm

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You serious? She was sharp and flat all in the same song!

Yes. They are called quarter tones and she nailed them. You should listen to some eastern European wedding music (aka Klezmer in the US). Good stuff.

43 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:01:18pm

re: #39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Little editing there.

Thank you.

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:01:21pm

re: #41 Gus 802

So?

45 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:01:28pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

It’s just so old, man. If you’re gonna play tricky devil’s advocate come up with something more fun than “Oh wow, blacks can be racist too!”

Its no fun if we all spot it right away :)

46 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:02:33pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

First push back.

Sad, but it makes my stance even more clear.

Push back? Just pointing out this isn’t much of a stunner is it? Are you going to deny they said the same thing about the conservative in the last election cycle? Or the one before that? Or the one before that? How many times in a row does it have to happen before you won’t be surprised? Were you surprised when the NRA said the liberals were going to take away our bullets during the last 847 election cycles or are you still surprised?

www.cnn.com


During his keynote speech at the group’s 95th annual convention Sunday night in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Bond also assailed the Bush administration and the Republican Party, accusing the GOP of “playing the race card in election after election.”

The party appeals “to the dark underside of American culture, to the minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality,” Bond said. “They preach neutrality and practice racial division.”

Many black people are “ready to turn anger into action, to work for regime change here at home,” Bond said. “But they have to be asked. They have to be registered, organized and mobilized.”

Do I really need to post the Byrd ad they ran in 2000? I’m not denying there might be racists who are in the tea party movement but I’m not willing to give a broken clock credit for being correct 2x a day.

47 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:02:45pm

re: #40 darthstar

No need to get hostile. I know you enjoy playing both sides on hot topics, and assumed that was just another example, if I was wrong about that, I apologize.

You’re damn well straight wrong. I can’t stand racism, whether it’s based on skin color, or bigotry based on looks, weight, education, nothing that automatically slots someone into a predefined stereotype.

Sometimes you are you own worst enemy… ya know that?

48 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:03:30pm

re: #45 windsagio

It’s just so old, man. If you’re gonna play tricky devil’s advocate come up with something more fun than “Oh wow, blacks can be racist too!”

Its no fun if we all spot it right away :)

Yawn.

49 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:03:46pm

re: #47 Walter L. Newton

Nobody will ever question that a playwright has a way of turning words to do his bidding :)

50 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:03:53pm

re: #47 Walter L. Newton

You’re damn well straight wrong. I can’t stand racism, whether it’s based on skin color, or bigotry based on looks, weight, education, nothing that automatically slots someone into a predefined stereotype.

Sometimes you are you own worst enemy… ya know that?

Yep.

51 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:04:20pm

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

you’re the one who asked man!

52 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:04:44pm

OT: New icon, too bad its so small ;)

53 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:05:16pm

re: #46 RogueOne

That came across as a little testy and it was mostly sarcasm. It’s hard to do sarcasm in print sometimes.

54 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:05:56pm

re: #49 windsagio

Nobody will ever question that a playwright has a way of turning words to do his bidding :)

You’ve never read my stuff… you have no idea if I’m good at turning a word or not… lame excuse on your part. I’ll say the same thing to you as I did Darth ” I can’t stand racism, whether it’s based on skin color, or bigotry based on looks, weight, education, nothing that automatically slots someone into a predefined stereotype. Sometimes you are you own worst enemy… ya know that?”

And I’m being polite.

55 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:08:10pm

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So?

You’ll have to answer that question yourself.

I know. The NAACP has racists. Therefore their resolution is what? Null? Perhaps someone can point me to an example of where the NAACP has so flagrantly tossed around racist imagery, speech and symbolism as some factions of the Tea Party. This so early in their existence.

Racism is considered a danger to society. Therefore, which would be more dangerous to the future of America? An advocacy group like the NAACP that may contain racist members or a political party like the Tea Party which could effectively impact laws and legislation of American.

This is especially apparent with Tea Party type candidates like Rand Paul who think that private entities have a right to discriminate according to race.

56 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:08:23pm

I piss further than all of you. It’s no contest, really.

57 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:08:29pm

re: #54 Walter L. Newton

I have actually, you linked a play at least once, and I read it.

I believe that you can’t stand racism, hopefully nobody on here can. Nevertheless, the line you were taking above was irrelevant at best, deeply misleading at worst. Its also old and has some unsavory associations.

Trust me when I say that people who bring up black racism alot are usually covering for either themselves (no I don’t think you’re racist, see above) or for something they like that is considered racist.

58 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:09:38pm

re: #56 Fozzie Bear

Not like that man, can’t have somebody throw something stupid like that out and then try to bust through with ‘outraged hostility’.

At risk of getting myself in trouble, this response is no different than the rather unfortunate joke made last Tuesday.

59 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:09:45pm

re: #46 RogueOne

Do I really need to post the Byrd ad they ran in 2000? I’m not denying there might be racists who are in the tea party movement but I’m not willing to give a broken clock credit for being correct 2x a day.

My question is why the NAACP’s statement is something to be debated? Or disparaged? (worthless, they always do this, means nothing, they’re racists too)

We have all seen the racisim in SOME* of the tea party participants.

Why in the HELL can’t the fucking NAACP say something about this? Without your, well they did it to Bush too crap.

*pandering

60 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:10:24pm

re: #52 windsagio

OT: New icon, too bad its so small ;)

Looks like me, now.

61 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:10:46pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea


*pandering

I laughed really hard :)


And there’s no reason of course its pure deflection.

62 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:10:52pm

Well… wasn’t that educational? We wasted almost 50 comment arguing over something that I think we mostly agree on… that there is unabashed publicly displayed racism coming from the Tea PArty, and that in general, there has not been much condemnation coming from the groups or individuals connected to the Tea Party.

For a group that claims there is no single hive controlling them, that each chapter is autonomous and that their opinions are as diverse as the groups, there is not much diversity on this issue.

Where is the complaints, where is the “outrage,” where are the inquiries, it’s almost as if there is no problem.

One wonders.

63 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:11:18pm

re: #46 RogueOne

Are you going to deny they said the same thing about the conservative in the last election cycle?

I’m looking for where the NAACP accused John McCain of being a racist or that he supported racism. However, I haven’t found any yet. Perhaps they did and I can’t find it.

There have been quite a few criticisms of latter day Republicans (from Reagan to GWB), but then again, maybe that was justified?

64 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:11:27pm

re: #57 windsagio

I have actually, you linked a play at least once, and I read it.

I believe that you can’t stand racism, hopefully nobody on here can. Nevertheless, the line you were taking above was irrelevant at best, deeply misleading at worst. Its also old and has some unsavory associations.

Trust me when I say that people who bring up black racism alot are usually covering for either themselves (no I don’t think you’re racist, see above) or for something they like that is considered racist.

Now I’m bored with you…

65 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:11:30pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

Looks like me, now.

Too tiny maybe, but then is this you me and WUB?

:D

66 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:12:22pm

re: #65 windsagio

Too tiny maybe, but then is this you me and WUB?


Reposted for shadowbox love.

67 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:12:34pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

They can say what they like but I never find it amazing that a special interest group finds theres a big need for said special interest the group might be interest in. This is one of those thing aren’t on the list of things we don’t know we know.

68 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:13:13pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

Pff you love it as much as I do :D


/except when I’m winning.

69 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:13:31pm

re: #67 RogueOne

They can say what they like but I never find it amazing that a special interest group finds theres a big need for said special interest the group might be interest in. This is one of those thing aren’t on the list of things we don’t know we know.

Every word in that last sentence is a link. And there were a lot more. Deal.

70 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:13:52pm

RIP Tuli Kupferberg.

71 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:14:22pm

re: #58 windsagio

I’m not really picking on anybody in particular with that comment, just noting that the conversation has gone from a debate about a condition to a debate about a debate. Then one part hostility and two parts interpartisan historical comparison added to the mix, and you have a classic LGF pissing contest.

I vastly prefer the pissing contests to the hive-mind of many other political forums, where opinions are held as though they were axioms, mind you.

72 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:14:31pm

re: #66 windsagio

Too tiny maybe, but then is this you me and WUB?

Reposted for shadowbox love.

Yeah, I’m still pissed. A+

73 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:15:05pm

re: #67 RogueOne

They can say what they like but I never find it amazing that a special interest group finds theres a big need for said special interest the group might be interest in. This is one of those thing aren’t on the list of things we don’t know we know.

pfft.

74 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:15:09pm

re: #68 windsagio

Pff you love it as much as I do :D

/except when I’m winning.

I’ve known people who were constipated and spent days trying to take a poop… and then one day… they did. They won… but all they did was take a shit :)

Loving it :)

75 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:15:09pm

re: #63 freetoken

I’m looking for where the NAACP accused John McCain of being a racist or that he supported racism. However, I haven’t found any yet. Perhaps they did and I can’t find it.

There have been quite a few criticisms of latter day Republicans (from Reagan to GWB), but then again, maybe that was justified?

McCain, to his credit, spoke at the NAACP in 2008.

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:15:57pm

re: #75 Gus 802

McCain, to his credit, spoke at the NAACP in 2008.

And to their credit, IMO.

77 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:16:27pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

the characters bio:

Cindy McPhearson (voiced by Tara Strong): A girl who originally appeared as recurring character in the comic strip. In the strip, Cindy is a girl in Huey’s class who is oblivious to racial issues. She enjoys rap music, especially Snoop Dogg. In the TV series, she appears as an extremely talented junior basketball player for her team, is well-versed (yet overblown) in AAVE, and is just as cocky as Riley. Riley soon resorts to insulting her mother and the problems related to her in Cindy’s life to put her off her game, which leads to her crying and running off the court. Appears in the episode “Ballin’” and “The Story of Gangstalicious Part 2”, in Season 2 and in Season 3 in the episode The Red Ball as part of the kickball team lead by Huey. In that episode, however, she doesn’t speak. She appears in and has a bigger role in the season 3 episode The Fundraiser as one of Riley’s partners in his chocolate enterprise. Her appearance in the TV series is similar to that of Cammy from the Street Fighter series.

And yes, she’s always angry, and a bit of a thug. Funny as hell tho’!

78 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:16:46pm

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And to their credit, IMO.

IIRC, in the primary season they asked all the Repubs to show up for a debate/discussion, but only Huckabee showed up.

79 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:16:50pm

re: #11 RogueOne

Are we sure this isn’t just a reprint of what they said about Bush in 2000 and 2004? Or is this one new and they’ll come out with the condemnation of the republican party at its usual time?

If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, shits like a duck and has duck DNA, then it’s a fucking duck.

I think the NAACP just salted the tail of the duck.

80 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:17:05pm

I have yet to see anywhere on LGF where Charles or anyone else has said that EVERY tea partier or EVERY tea party candidate is a racist. However, it has been HEAVILY documented that many of the tea party organizers themselves have seriously racist tendencies. Anyone who attends a tea party or runs as a tea party candidate needs to understand the kind of freight they are hauling whether them selves have a racist bone in their body or not.

81 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:17:19pm

re: #71 Fozzie Bear

The problem is that it was INTENTIONALLY made into that by the outraged ‘how dare you say that about me!’ response.

its a classic way to try to dodge trouble, but it poisons the dialogue.

82 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:17:45pm

re: #77 windsagio

Well, not so much.

For shizzle?

83 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:18:09pm

re: #78 freetoken

IIRC, in the primary season they asked all the Repubs to show up for a debate/discussion, but only Huckabee showed up.

That was a groan moment.

84 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:18:14pm

re: #15 darthstar

NAACP pulled the race card out of the Tea Party’s back pocket.

And waved it in their faces.

Time to pin it to their chests, or hang it around their necks.

85 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:18:36pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

Damn. If that looks like you tho’, I”ll change it to avoid confusion :D

86 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:19:08pm

re: #85 windsagio

Damn. If that looks like you tho’, I”ll change it to avoid confusion :D

It doesn’t. Well maybe when I was a kid!!

87 ShaunP  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:19:37pm

re: #84 b_sharp

And waved it in their faces.

Time to pin it to their chests, or hang it around their necks.

They’re already wearing “Yeah, I’m a racist” t-shirts…

88 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:19:54pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Anyways, back ot our regularly scheduled programming.


RACISM SUCKS!

89 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:20:11pm

re: #65 windsagio

Too tiny maybe, but then is this you me and WUB?

:D

haha am I the frowny girl scout

90 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:20:11pm

re: #87 ShaunP

They’re already wearing “Yeah, I’m a racist” t-shirts…

Which is freaking mindblowing.

91 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:20:26pm

re: #89 WindUpBird

no thats SS, you can be the one with glasses >>

92 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:03pm

re: #54 Walter L. Newton

You’ve never read my stuff… you have no idea if I’m good at turning a word or not… lame excuse on your part. I’ll say the same thing to you as I did Darth ” I can’t stand racism, whether it’s based on skin color, or bigotry based on looks, weight, education, nothing that automatically slots someone into a predefined stereotype. Sometimes you are you own worst enemy… ya know that?”

And I’m being polite.

Some reviews of “Walter’s stuff”:

www.variety.com

www.westword.com

www.variety.com

Art is art. He’s good. But still massively passive-aggressive.

93 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:05pm

re: #67 RogueOne

They can say what they like but I never find it amazing that a special interest group finds theres a big need for said special interest the group might be interest in. This is one of those thing aren’t on the list of things we don’t know we know.

Well, that settles it then. No need to debate substance — we should never pay attention to what the Anti-Defamation League or the UCLA say ever again.

Also, this:
re: #63 freetoken

I’m looking for where the NAACP accused John McCain of being a racist or that he supported racism. However, I haven’t found any yet. Perhaps they did and I can’t find it.

There have been quite a few criticisms of latter day Republicans (from Reagan to GWB), but then again, maybe that was justified?

94 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:05pm

Charles et al, did you see the mini meltdown by Breitbart on Eric Boehlert?

twitter.com

Find Eric’s tweet then go up.

95 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:21pm

re: #90 windsagio

Which is freaking mindblowing.

I will say, that I’ve felt all along that this would be the good fallout of all this mess.

Best way to get rid of this crap is to expose it to sunlight, and that’s what’s happening in spades

(lolspammy!)

96 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:26pm

re: #83 Gus 802

That was a groan moment.

Yes it was. Even more disturbing are the possible reasons for the other candidates to not show up. Were they afraid that going to an NAACP gathering might have lowered their own desirability in the eyes of potential Republican voters? That’s just speculation on my part, but any candidate obviously must try to make the most of any opportunity for publicity, and to turn down the NAACP invite means turning down publicity.

97 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:27pm

The racist elements of the Tea Party movement are only one of their most visible problems, and maybe not even the worst. The influence of the weird Ron Paul paleo-libertarian cult is also a huge problem, the influence of extreme fundamentalist religious sects is another, and the influence of the John Birch Society and their offshoots is still another.

The Tea Party movement is a deeply destructive force in American politics.

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:21:39pm

re: #80 bratwurst

I have yet to see anywhere on LGF where Charles or anyone else has said that EVERY tea partier or EVERY tea party candidate is a racist. However, it has been HEAVILY documented that many of the tea party organizers themselves have seriously racist tendencies. Anyone who attends a tea party or runs as a tea party candidate needs to understand the kind of freight they are hauling whether them selves have a racist bone in their body or not.

this this this

99 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:22:20pm

re: #91 windsagio

Wait! I thought I was the blondie. The frowning blondie who loves snoop?

100 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:22:59pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

The frowny girl scout IS the blond, silly!

101 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:23:26pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

Wait! I thought I was the blondie. The frowning blondie who loves snoop?

I do have the glasses, I could be the angry nerd :D

102 Nick Schroeder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:23:39pm

I only read the first couple of comments to the thread but, I hate to say it, I think you guys were being optimistic. I’ve been watching Glenn Beck the past couple of days, and all he ever does anymore is show videos from roughly 20 years ago of angry black loons screaming about kill whitey.

I don’t think, at this point, they’ll even try to say they aren’t racist. They know they can’t hold ground on their argument. So they’re now in an all out effort to make it seem like black people everywhere are out to get them. It’s actually kind of frightening. Beck in particular is acutely focused on the New Black Panthers, who are a totally marginalized group of fairly extreme loons (or at least, contain enough former loons to consistently prove embarrassing). And the only thing his viewers are going to think when they see this action from the NAACP, is that the NAACP doesn’t like Glenn Beck because he ‘exposed’ the ‘secret agenda’ to kill all the white people.

This would be comical if millions of functional retards weren’t buying into it.

103 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:23:42pm

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Friend of mine is a Tea-Party candidate for Congress. I’ve known him since he was a kid. Of course, he’ll get clobbered. But, there ain’t a racist bone in his body that I’ve seen any evidence of.

There are racists in the NAACP also.

I have no doubt you are quite correct on both points. However, it is telling that those non-racist TPers aren’t calling out the racists in their own gang. Isn’t that exactly what many have been calling for from the moderate Muslim community?

Right now the TPers are more vocal and more influential with the MSM and a major political party than the NAACP.

Besides, the old Tu Quoque does not make the racism in the TP any less vile does it?

104 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:23:59pm

re: #97 Charles

(repeating myself).

At least these forces have all coalesced into one solid group so we can see them as what they are: A many-headed hydra based in hate and fear.

105 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:24:12pm

re: #70 Alouette

RIP Tuli Kupferberg.

And Harvey Pekar.

106 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:26:40pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

How can someone in the NAACP be racist?

I assume that was written with an unseen sarcasm tag. If that is the case then don’t be a goof. Nobody here would ever claim racism is a white only phenomenon so you’re trying to light an argument made of straw.

107 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:27:05pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

Charles et al, did you see the mini meltdown by Breitbart on Eric Boehlert?

[Link: twitter.com…]

Find Eric’s tweet then go up.

Dude has some anger issues.

108 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:27:24pm

re: #26 windsagio

Do you guys really wanna go with this one?

Like really?

Looks like it.

109 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:27:26pm

re: #105 austin_blue

Damn, really?

110 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:27:55pm

re: #102 Nick Schroeder

I’ve been watching Glenn Beck the past couple of days, and all he ever does anymore is show videos from roughly 20 years ago of angry black loons screaming about kill whitey.

re: #104 windsagio

(repeating myself).

At least these forces have all coalesced into one solid group so we can see them as what they are: A many-headed hydra based in hate and fear.


BOOGA BOOGA, oh yeah, BOOGA!

111 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:28:25pm

re: #109 windsagio

Damn, really?

Yup.

112 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:28:31pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

“Yo, carob-scented freakshow of a “senior fellow,” @ericboehlert. Im only defending people against your side’s ends justify the means lies.”


CAROB-SCENTED FREAKSHOW IS THE BEST INSULT EVER!

113 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:28:43pm

re: #111 austin_blue

Sad sad day.

114 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:28:52pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

Charles et al, did you see the mini meltdown by Breitbart on Eric Boehlert?

[Link: twitter.com…]

Find Eric’s tweet then go up.

Been watching with amusement.

115 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:29:05pm

re: #97 Charles

The racist elements of the Tea Party movement are only one of their most visible problems, and maybe not even the worst. The influence of the weird Ron Paul paleo-libertarian cult is also a huge problem, the influence of extreme fundamentalist religious sects is another, and the influence of the John Birch Society and their offshoots is still another.

The Tea Party movement is a deeply destructive force in American politics.

Unfortunately, it seems that it picked the perfect time in American politics to come into being. Take one economic disaster, mix in some media oversaturation, add a few dashes of unfulfilled promises, and finally a nice helping of “too many cooks spoiling the broth” as a response to a major disaster and presto, perfect environment for even an unpopular and utterly nutty movement to gain a foothold amongst the ranks of angry and depressed voters.

116 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:29:48pm

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You serious? She was sharp and flat all in the same song!

Being sharp is a good thing.

117 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:29:50pm

re: #114 Charles

Been watching with amusement.

Breibart brings out the sex act insults yet again.

118 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:30:38pm

re: #106 b_sharp

I assume that was written with an unseen sarcasm tag. If that is the case then don’t be a goof. Nobody here would ever claim racism is a white only phenomenon so you’re trying to light an argument made of straw.

I was actually trying to highlight the fact that someone would actually bring up that argument that someone in the NACCP would be racist. Of course they can, but what the fuck does that have to do with the thread at hand. The thread is about the Tea Party. Making a statement like that phrase was like trying to dismiss the thing with a “well everyone does it” mentality.

That’s what I was trying to say. Sorry it didn’t pass your literary understanding.

119 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:31:41pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Dude has some anger issues.

I’m beginning to wonder if Breitbart isn’t the equivalent of a reality show contestant acting out constantly to get the camera on him. he does work for drudge after all. Calling the New York post and telling them what restaurant he’ll throw a fit at later that night, that sort of thing. How much of this is real anger, and how much of it is pro-wrestling fake stunt anger?

That may be my bias showing, I assume showmanship when people start going nuts in public in a way that benefits their career. Either way, Breitbart’s words are poisonous and nonsensical.

120 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:32:20pm

Tough, and to be fair to the teabaggers — I got really tired back in 2003 of the media portraying every anti-war demonstration, and by extension everyone who opposed the war, as a bunch of shower deprived anarcho-peacenik weirdos. Not that there’s anything wrong with it.

121 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:32:30pm

re: #115 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I am sad.

And actually invigorated. (really pissed off) And not just on this blog/the internet. The current situation, at least to those disposed to watching politics, has “fired up the base”

122 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:33:49pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

I was actually trying to highlight the fact that someone would actually bring up that argument that someone in the NACCP would be racist. Of course they can, but what the fuck does that have to do with the thread at hand. The thread is about the Tea Party. Making a statement like that phrase was like trying to dismiss the thing with a “well everyone does it” mentality.

That’s what I was trying to say. Sorry it didn’t pass your literary understanding.

I believe you.

123 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:34:17pm

back and forth flamewars on twitter are always great because they have to work within that 150 character limit, which instantly adds a sheen of pidgin-English comedy to the proceedings. It’s like there’s a ref screaming “break it up, keyboard commandos!” every three sentences.

I HATE YOU AND BOY I REALLY HATE YOU AND OBAMA IS THE NEW CASTRO OH SHIT MY LIMIT IS HERE SEE YOU NEXT TWEET

it’s like people fighting in a ring while wearing those fake sumo suits.

124 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:35:34pm

re: #120 Nimed

Tough, and to be fair to the teabaggers — I got really tired back in 2003 of the media portraying every anti-war demonstration, and by extension everyone who opposed the war, as a bunch of shower deprived anarcho-peacenik weirdos. Not that there’s anything wrong with it.

I love you Mustaine, hahaha

125 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:35:58pm

OT:

President Hillary Clinton.

Just kidding.

How did it make you feel?

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:36:46pm

re: #125 Ojoe

OT:

President Hillary Clinton.

Just kidding.

How did it make you feel?

I would have voted for her!

127 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:37:09pm
128 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:37:35pm

re: #126 WindUpBird

Me too at this point.

129 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:37:40pm

re: #127 windsagio

You are stepping ALL OVER MY MEGADETH SIR >:-(

130 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:38:05pm

re: #129 WindUpBird

Bwahahahhaaha

Would you rather I post “White God”?

That’d get people properly aggro ;)

131 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:38:52pm

re: #126 WindUpBird

I would have voted for her!


Better than McCain (I’ve changed everything I ever ran on, for a new race against a teaba**er) With Sarah in the wings.

Holy shit.

132 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:39:07pm

re: #128 Ojoe

Me too at this point.

I would have voted for her at that point… way before I would have ever voted for McCain or Obama.

133 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:39:45pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

I was actually trying to highlight the fact that someone would actually bring up that argument that someone in the NACCP would be racist. Of course they can, but what the fuck does that have to do with the thread at hand. The thread is about the Tea Party. Making a statement like that phrase was like trying to dismiss the thing with a “well everyone does it” mentality.

That’s what I was trying to say. Sorry it didn’t pass your literary understanding.

You are forgiven.

134 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:39:56pm

re: #125 Ojoe

OT:

President Hillary Clinton.

Just kidding.

How did it make you feel?

I would have had a hard time choosing between her & McCain…

135 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:39:57pm

re: #131 Stanley Sea

McCain still makes me sad really. He acted like a kid whose father beat him and then grows up to try the exact same thing.

136 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:40:06pm

re: #112 windsagio


Winston Churchill had some great political insults.

He called someone “a sheep in sheep’s clothing.”

And another:

“A squalid nuisance.”

137 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:40:08pm

re: #125 Ojoe

OT:

President Hillary Clinton.

Just kidding.

How did it make you feel?

I was really tempted to support her, if for no other reason than I thought she’d actually stick to what she was preaching.

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:40:13pm

re: #128 Ojoe

Me too at this point.

I still like Obama more. My feelings are similar to Iceweasels’: Clinton had a lot of political baggage due to the misogynistic noise machine, being demonized for over a decade, and I think it would have impacted her effectiveness.

Though then again, Obama’s skin color seems to have riled up the booga booga crowd and those in the GOP who need the booga booga crowd to get elected, so it may have been a wash.

139 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:40:34pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

I was actually trying to highlight the fact that someone would actually bring up that argument that someone in the NACCP would be racist. Of course they can, but what the fuck does that have to do with the thread at hand. The thread is about the Tea Party. Making a statement like that phrase was like trying to dismiss the thing with a “well everyone does it” mentality.

That’s what I was trying to say. Sorry it didn’t pass your literary understanding.

Walter, that last sentence was gratuitous and insulting. Lighten up!

140 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:41:06pm

re: #131 Stanley Sea

Better than McCain (I’ve changed everything I ever ran on, for a new race against a teaba**er) With Sarah in the wings.

Holy shit.

always funny :D

141 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:41:37pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

Woulda voted for her, but still not a big fan. She just wasn’t htat far left of McCain when you get down to it, and the Clinton legacy was pretty crappy in general, in my opinion.

142 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:43:01pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

Obama can’t be an effective leader after some of his campaign word slips (bitter clingers etc.) and you can see that now I guess. For better or worse there are some people who feel they have been insulted by him. An actual leader can’t afford that. Oh well.

143 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:43:02pm

Evening, all. What’s tonight’s skirmish about? :)

144 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:43:16pm

re: #96 freetoken

Yes it was. Even more disturbing are the possible reasons for the other candidates to not show up. Were they afraid that going to an NAACP gathering might have lowered their own desirability in the eyes of potential Republican voters? That’s just speculation on my part, but any candidate obviously must try to make the most of any opportunity for publicity, and to turn down the NAACP invite means turning down publicity.

To continue my role as a cynic I think you might be looking for too many layers. Gore won 90% of the black vote (Bush 9), Kerry 88 (Bush 11), Obama 96 (McCain - 94 votes total). You might not be surprised to learn none of the dems in those elections spoke in front of the NRA convention.

145 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:43:36pm

Hillareeee!!! (kudos to SFZ)

Of course I would’ve voted for Hillary. I did in the primary. (and I was at a frou frou fundraiser for her in La Jolla, she was strong. Talked a lot about science…UCSD crowd etc.) But I supported Barack Obama since.

Remember those Hillary nut crackers they sold in airports? If they made those of Sarah, wonder the react?

146 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:43:44pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

I still like Obama more. My feelings are similar to Iceweasels’: Clinton had a lot of political baggage due to the misogynistic noise machine, being demonized for over a decade, and I think it would have impacted her effectiveness.

Though then again, Obama’s skin color seems to have riled up the booga booga crowd and those in the GOP who need the booga booga crowd to get elected, so it may have been a wash.

Way I see it, there’s nothing they could have thrown at Hillary in ‘08 that hadn’t already been thrown. What’s the worst they could do, call her a mean-spirited bitch? Hell, in retrospect, that would have been a great quality to run on.

147 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:43:52pm

re: #142 Ojoe

Those people, believe it or not, would have been insulted and against him no matter what.

Speaking the truth is often political suicide, but I’m glad that he ‘slipped up’ that way, and got through anwyays. It was refreshing.

148 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:44:28pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Evening, all. What’s tonight’s skirmish about? :)

there is no skirmish, none at all.

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:44:43pm

re: #142 Ojoe

Obama can’t be an effective leader after some of his campaign word slips (bitter clingers etc.) and you can see that now I guess. For better or worse there are some people who feel they have been insulted by him. An actual leader can’t afford that. Oh well.

See, this is where I feel you have left the freeway, taken the GOP meme exist, then left the surface streets, and finally the earth itself, and your droptop is now rolling along the rings of saturn.

Repeating this all the time, as you are fond of doing, doesn’t make it true. :)

150 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:45:05pm

re: #148 brookly red

Well its more that you guys missed it ;)

151 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:45:49pm

re: #147 windsagio

Yes but it compromised him as a leader.

Now he can’t do as much.

‘Tis the price to pay for being a political klutz.

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:46:10pm

re: #147 windsagio

Those people, believe it or not, would have been insulted and against him no matter what.

Speaking the truth is often political suicide, but I’m glad that he ‘slipped up’ that way, and got through anwyays. It was refreshing.

What will Obama do without the Ozarkian Hillwilliams vote?!?!?!

153 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:46:19pm

re: #150 windsagio

Well its more that you guys missed it ;)

Can’t let it drop… can you… talk about baiting and trolling…

154 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:46:34pm

re: #150 windsagio

Well its more that you guys missed it ;)

It was really minor.

155 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:46:36pm

re: #140 WindUpBird

[Video]

always funny :D

OMG, my first time seeing that. gracias amigo.

156 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:46:38pm

re: #151 Ojoe

That’s not what compromised him at all, its a blind for the real problems.

The people offended would have blanket opposed him no matter what. having a slightly better justification doesn’t change anything.

157 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:46:38pm

re: #150 windsagio

Well its more that you guys missed it ;)

I didn’t miss it… I just held my tongue. ;)

158 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:01pm

re: #151 Ojoe

Yes but it compromised him as a leader.

Now he can’t do as much.

‘Tis the price to pay for being a political klutz.

Lol, the meme goes on

159 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:02pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

I still like Obama more. My feelings are similar to Iceweasels’: Clinton had a lot of political baggage due to the misogynistic noise machine, being demonized for over a decade, and I think it would have impacted her effectiveness.

Though then again, Obama’s skin color seems to have riled up the booga booga crowd and those in the GOP who need the booga booga crowd to get elected, so it may have been a wash.

it’s not just his skin color…that’s a bit of a cop out, and again it was predicted the right was gonna blow their lid if he was elected, the only question being what form it would take…the TP is on a roll and they will no doubt give the donks a black eye this fall, setting up their run for the WH…I have always taken these people serious, no matter how low they blow…BO is in serious trouble and both he and his party know it…racism will likely be lost in the shouting this fall

160 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:06pm

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

C’mon walter, we’re having fun. I had no intention to bait you :(

161 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:15pm

re: #148 brookly red

there is no skirmish, none at all.

Just having fun, brookly. I had a long day at work, ending in a great success which forced me to stay an extra half-hour. But that’s something I’ve done before, and I’m good with it.

162 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:23pm

re: #157 brookly red

I didn’t miss it… I just held my tongue. ;)

With hand or pliers?

163 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:29pm

re: #156 windsagio

That’s not what compromised him at all, its a blind for the real problems.

The people offended would have blanket opposed him no matter what. having a slightly better justification doesn’t change anything.

If anything is compromising Obama, it’s America’s racist heritage.

164 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:36pm

re: #149 WindUpBird

I think it is true. The country seems rather divided, don’t you think? Some things are best left unsaid.

165 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:37pm

re: #146 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Way I see it, there’s nothing they could have thrown at Hillary in ‘08 that hadn’t already been thrown. What’s the worst they could do, call her a mean-spirited bitch?>/> Hell, in retrospect, that would have been a great quality to run on.

It’s on my top ten list of needed qualifications. Right next to likes to take a lot of vacations. The president should take at least 200 days off a year and take the congress with them.

166 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:49pm

re: #163 WindUpBird

If anything is compromising Obama, it’s America’s racist heritage.

BA-ZING!

167 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:47:59pm

Why is it so shocking for the NAACP to call out the racist element of the TP movement?
I think it was long overdue.
Dog bites man.

168 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:48:05pm

re: #144 RogueOne

To continue my role as a cynic I think you might be looking for too many layers. Gore won 90% of the black vote (Bush 9), Kerry 88 (Bush 11), Obama 96 (McCain - 94 votes total). You might not be surprised to learn none of the dems in those elections spoke in front of the NRA convention.

And yet, Eisenhower, before the “Southern Strategy”, got around 50% of the black vote. But then, most of the Racists were southern D’s. Now they are southern R’s.

And it worked for the R’s. They kept getting Presidents elected. But now the demographics are changing and in many States, there will soon be a white minority voting bloc. Many of these people are drawn to the TPM.

169 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:48:15pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Evening, all. What’s tonight’s skirmish about? :)

Hey brother! I’m watching the All Star game.. No real nuclear launch codes tonight…

170 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:48:16pm

OT, but not really. Even when rush limbaugh is trying to be hip, he falls short ….

NEW YORK (AP) - Rush Limbaugh had his own view of George
Steinbrenner.
“That cracker made a lot of African-American millionaires,”
the radio commentator said Tuesday on his show after the New York
Yankees owner died at age 80. “He fired a bunch of white guys as
managers left and right.”
Rev. Al Sharpton called Limbaugh’s statements “repugnant and
offensive whether they were intended to be facetious or tongue and
cheek.”
“For the last 20-years I have known George Steinbrenner and we
have quarreled over diversity and community programs but I always
found him fair, direct, and genuinely prone to do what he felt was
right,” Sharpton said in a statement. “He generated a lot of
money for a lot of players as well as for baseball as a whole. …
Mr. Limbaugh and his broadcasters owe his family an apology.”

171 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:48:44pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Evening, all. What’s tonight’s skirmish about? :)

T-1000 vs Samara — who would prevail?

172 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:48:54pm

re: #165 RogueOne

Wow, sorry about the screwed up bold tag. I feel very strongly about that but not that strongly.

173 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:49:00pm

re: #163 WindUpBird

If anything is compromising Obama, it’s America’s racist heritage.

That is true.

174 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:49:06pm

re: #171 Nimed

Bad nerd, me. I don’t even konw what ‘samara’ is.

175 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:49:33pm

re: #172 RogueOne

Lol, we’ve all been there!

176 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:50:12pm

re: #127 windsagio

Random happy music Break


[Video]

You’re a indie music kinda guy, aren’t you?

177 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:50:35pm

re: #165 RogueOne

It’s on my top ten list of needed qualifications. Right next to likes to take a lot of vacations. The president should take at least 200 days off a year and take the congress with them.

Sound like the ideal presidency.

178 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:50:40pm

re: #160 windsagio

C’mon walter, we’re having fun. I had no intention to bait you :(

You missed my post. We are visiting Walter in November.

179 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:50:56pm

re: #170 _RememberTonyC

rush is showing his desperation,well with hannity and (ugh)beck nipping at his heels

180 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:51:11pm

re: #176 Nimed

You’re a indie music kinda guy, aren’t you?

Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

181 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:51:41pm

re: #176 Nimed

I am!

I kinda grew up on Erasure, if that tells you anything :D

182 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:51:57pm

re: #179 Boondock St. Bender

oh (ugh) for that lil troll hannity too

183 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:52:00pm

re: #178 Stanley Sea

I saw it! Lookin’ forward, if he’ll still have me ;0

184 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:52:12pm

re: #169 HoosierHoops

We are too. Made hot dogs, got beer…

185 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:53:02pm

re: #167 Spare O’Lake

Why is it so shocking for the NAACP to call out the racist element of the TP movement?
I think it was long overdue.
Dog bites man.

EXACTLY.

They were supposed to ignore the current environment*?

*SOME

186 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:53:13pm

From the NAACP site:


NAACP Delegates Vote to Repudiate Racist Elements Within Tea Party | NAACP

Today, NAACP delegates passed a resolution to condemn extremist elements within the Tea Party, calling on Tea Party leaders to reputiate those in their ranks who use racist language in their signs and speeches.

The resolution came after a year of high-profile media coverage of attendees of Tea Party marches using vial, antagonistic racial slurs & images. In March, respected members of the Congressional Black Caucus reported that racial epithets were hurled at them as they passed by a Washington, DC health care protest. Civil rights legend John Lewis was called the “n-word” in the incident while others in the crowd used ugly anti-gay slurs to describe Congressman Barney Frank, a long-time NAACP supporter and the nation’s first openly gay member of Congress.

Missouri Representative Emmanuel Cleaver was spat on during the incident, and so it was particularly appropriate that the resolution was passed as NAACP delegates gathered in Kansas City for our 101st Annual Convention.

The proposed resolution had generated controversy on conservative blogs, where in some cases the language has been misconstrued to imply that the NAACP was condemning the entire Tea Party movement itself as racist.

The resolution will not become official NAACP policy until approved by the National Board of Directors in October.

Click on the link to see the photos.

187 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:53:15pm

re: #162 b_sharp

With hand or pliers?

with sadness & remorse.

188 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:53:41pm

re: #183 windsagio

I saw it! Lookin’ forward, if he’ll still have me ;0

I’m sure there’s a barn somewhere you can sleep in.

189 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:54:01pm

re: #169 HoosierHoops

Hey brother! I’m watching the All Star game.. No real nuclear launch codes tonight…

Drug free..,

190 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:55:44pm

Photo they have up at the NAACP page I mentioned.

Looks familiar. And of course it’s from a Tea Party gathering.

192 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:56:02pm

re: #183 windsagio

I saw it! Lookin’ forward, if he’ll still have me ;0

Why not… I don’t agree with half of what I see anyone post here half the time, and the other half, it’s not the end of the world anyway. What ever your opinions are can’t get in the way of a meal and a few hours of hanging out.

193 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:56:03pm

re: #170 _RememberTonyC

OT, but not really. Even when rush limbaugh is trying to be hip, he falls short …

NEW YORK (AP) - Rush Limbaugh had his own view of George
Steinbrenner.
“That cracker made a lot of African-American millionaires,”
the radio commentator said Tuesday on his show after the New York
Yankees owner died at age 80. “He fired a bunch of white guys as
managers left and right.”
Rev. Al Sharpton called Limbaugh’s statements “repugnant and
offensive whether they were intended to be facetious or tongue and
cheek.”
“For the last 20-years I have known George Steinbrenner and we
have quarreled over diversity and community programs but I always
found him fair, direct, and genuinely prone to do what he felt was
right,” Sharpton said in a statement. “He generated a lot of
money for a lot of players as well as for baseball as a whole. …
Mr. Limbaugh and his broadcasters owe his family an apology.”

Once again, Rush ladled the bottom of the race baiting barrel. RIP George Steinbrenner.

194 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:56:33pm
195 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:57:27pm

re: #194 Gus 802

Hey! See 190. ;)

DAMMIT! :D

That’s what I get for getting a beer XDXDXDXD


(I like how he’s got another sign behind the one in front)

196 Lidane  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:57:32pm

re: #102 Nick Schroeder

This would be comical if millions of functional retards weren’t buying into it.

Which is precisely the problem. So many people are buying into this crap. It’s scary.

197 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:57:39pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

We can get drunk together and then get lost in the mountains!

198 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:57:53pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

Why not… I don’t agree with half of what I see anyone post here half the time, and the other half, it’s not the end of the world anyway. What ever your opinions are can’t get in the way of a meal and a few hours of hanging out.

Trust me, he’s more mellow in person :D

199 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:58:27pm

re: #187 brookly red

with sadness & remorse.

I’m glad you’re doing it though. But I’m here and hopefully we’ll find something to talk about.

200 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:58:56pm

re: #195 WindUpBird

DAMMIT! :D

That’s what I get for getting a beer XDXDXDXD

(I like how he’s got another sign behind the one in front)

Doughy pantload. Maybe the other sign is his backup.

201 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:58:56pm

re: #191 WindUpBird

I’m sure the Jewish people appreciate this doughy tub of guts and his concern

heh I was just thinking, how many people can you insult with one sign? This guy’s the winner.

202 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:58:58pm

re: #186 Gus 802

From the NAACP site:


NAACP Delegates Vote to Repudiate Racist Elements Within Tea Party | NAACP

Click on the link to see the photos.

Click the link.

203 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:59:05pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Once again, Rush ladled the bottom of the race baiting barrel. RIP George Steinbrenner.

whenever i agree with al sharpton, i throw up a bit in my mouth. and I agree with him on this.

204 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:59:17pm

re: #201 marjoriemoon

Leftist plant!

205 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:59:17pm

re: #197 windsagio

We can get drunk together and then get lost in the mountains!

Walter lives there, he won’t get lost. ;)

206 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:59:43pm

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

Thats why you drink first :D

207 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 6:59:56pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

I’m glad you’re doing it though. But I’m here and hopefully we’ll find something to talk about.

there really is not much to say.

208 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:00:11pm

re: #197 windsagio

Take a map and compass for when you sober up.

209 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:00:42pm

re: #204 windsagio

Leftist plant!

Yep! Look at those sun glasses. Just like John Lennon. And look at the color of that jacket. It’s a flowery yellow. Clearly this man is no true Teabagger.

/

210 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:00:44pm

re: #197 windsagio

We can get drunk together and then get lost in the mountains!

I don’t drink a bit… anymore. But, you can get drunk and I’ll help you get lost… hehehehe… (twists mustache)

211 Lidane  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:00:47pm

re: #203 _RememberTonyC

I wouldn’t worry about it. We all know Rush is an asshole. It’s not all that hard to agree with Sharpton on that.

212 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:01:11pm

re: #198 WindUpBird

Trust me, he’s more mellow in person :D

You and Stanley are friends? How did I not know this?

213 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:01:29pm

re: #181 windsagio

I am!

I kinda grew up on Erasure, if that tells you anything :D

It does. I am too, kinda! Blast from the past, I hope:

214 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:01:50pm

re: #212 RogueOne

… … … … … … … … … … … … … …

215 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:02:09pm

re: #197 windsagio

Walter doesn’t drink. We will revel in the fricken Colorado mountains!!!

(then we’ll get drunk & he will kick us out)

216 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:02:28pm

re: #213 Nimed

Ohh my yes :)


So how old were you during your TMBG phase?

217 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:02:29pm

re: #211 Lidane

I wouldn’t worry about it. We all know Rush is an asshole. It’s not all that hard to agree with Sharpton on that.

where two fools met…let them howl at each other, that’s what they are paid to do

218 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:02:43pm

re: #198 WindUpBird

Trust me, he’s more mellow in person :D

huh? I got reamed for calling she he ? or whatever.

219 researchok  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:02:49pm

If the GOP won’t denounce the racism in TP, they are done for in this incarnation. The sane part of the party will have to stage a coup and rebuikd.

A lot- A LOT- of voters will just stay home. They won’t give Pelosi/Reid a free ride or pass (and they shouldn’t), but they will stay home.

220 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:02:59pm

re: #215 Stanley Sea

Pff you know everything :p

221 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:03:17pm

re: #207 brookly red

there really is not much to say.

ORLY?

222 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:03:37pm

re: #212 RogueOne

re: #218 brookly red

I think you guys are a little confused ;)

223 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:03:38pm

re: #181 windsagio

I am!

I kinda grew up on Erasure, if that tells you anything :D

Me too……. Yaz(oo) connection

224 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:03:55pm

re: #211 Lidane

I wouldn’t worry about it. We all know Rush is an asshole. It’s not all that hard to agree with Sharpton on that.

i feel better now …. thanks

225 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:04:29pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

ORLY?

an airport near Paris?

226 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:05:54pm

re: #222 windsagio

re: #218 brookly red

I think you guys are a little confused ;)

That wouldn’t surprise me either.

227 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:06:03pm

re: #225 brookly red

an airport near Paris?

Taitz right.

228 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:06:32pm

trying to learn politics from rush(et al) or olberdeuch(et al) is like learing physics from cartoons.

229 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:06:47pm

OK, not my usual schtick, but:

I have a head of cauliflower and don’t want to steam it the usual way. Ideas?

230 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:07:32pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

Wrap in several layers of paper towel, and microwave it for (god I don’t remember how long).

231 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:08:18pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

OK, not my usual schtick, but:

I have a head of cauliflower and don’t want to steam it the usual way. Ideas?

Try exchanging it for your regular head.

232 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:08:20pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

Casserole?

233 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:08:23pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

OK, not my usual schtick, but:

I have a head of cauliflower and don’t want to steam it the usual way. Ideas?

Frap it, mix it with frapped turnips, add butter and serve like mashed potatoes.

234 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:08:41pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

OK, not my usual schtick, but:

I have a head of cauliflower and don’t want to steam it the usual way. Ideas?

batter dip and deep fry Egyptian style… slammin

235 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:09:07pm

re: #234 brookly red

Best idea so far!

236 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:09:15pm

re: #233 Walter L. Newton

Frap it, mix it with frapped turnips, add butter and serve like mashed potatoes.

What does frap mean?

237 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:10:18pm

re: #235 Rightwingconspirator

Best idea so far!

I get shit for my politics but but I know food damnit!

238 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:10:23pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

OK, not my usual schtick, but:

I have a head of cauliflower and don’t want to steam it the usual way. Ideas?

Boil it and pour a melted cheddar or american cheese sauce on top of it.

239 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:10:38pm

Well, here’s a bunch of people we can all agree are scum:

Somali militants terrorists ready to terrorize world? (alteration mine)

(CNN) — The deadly bombings in Uganda’s capital may have heralded a chilling new chapter in the history of a Somali Islamist group with links to al Qaeda.

For almost four years the radical al Shabaab movement has been engaged in a violent struggle with the U.N.-backed transitional government for control of Somalia, which has had no effective administration since Mohamed Siad Barre’s regime collapsed in 1991.

But the weekend bomb attacks in Kampala that killed 74 people would mark the first time the group has claimed responsibility for an operation beyond the Somali border, apart from sporadic attacks across the border into northern Kenya.

Al Shabaab, meaning “the youth” in Arabic, advocates the strict, often brutal, Saudi Arabian-inspired Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. It emerged in 2005 as the militant youth wing of the Islamic Courts Union (ICU), which briefly controlled much of the Horn of Africa nation before being ousted in 2006 by troops from neighboring Ethiopia.

SNIP

Well at least CNN identifies their inspiration.

240 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:10:42pm

re: #230 windsagio

Wrap in several layers of paper towel, and microwave it for (god I don’t remember how long).

Mr. Takeout talks microwave.

241 allegro  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:11:19pm

re: #238 Mr Pancakes

Boil it and pour a melted cheddar or american cheese sauce on top of it.

Even better, make queso.

242 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:11:34pm

re: #216 windsagio

Ohh my yes :)

So how old were you during your TMBG phase?

Ah sorry, I didn’t know them before their recent activity (the key thing here is that I grew up most in Portugal, so 90% of the stuff I heard was British)!

I was 16 to 18-ish in my Pablo Honey + The Bends phase.

243 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:12:00pm

re: #237 brookly red

Tip of hat for both. Food and willing to take the shit.

244 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:12:01pm

re: #241 allegro

Even better, make queso.

Me gusta queso!

245 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:12:12pm

re: #236 b_sharp

What does frap mean?

Whip it.

246 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:12:35pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Whip it.

Whip it good

247 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:13:03pm

re: #243 Rightwingconspirator

Tip of hat for both. Food and willing to take the shit.

fried cauliflower is awesome…

248 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:13:22pm

re: #237 brookly red

I get shit for my politics but but I know food damnit!

Which is much preferable than the other way around.

249 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:13:43pm

re: #230 windsagio

Wrap in several layers of paper towel, and microwave it for (god I don’t remember how long).

what

250 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:13:43pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Whip it.

I assume it has to be softened up somehow. Do you have to boil it before hand?

251 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:13:46pm

re: #230 windsagio

Ok… I just check out some things in the guest bedroom… there are at least seven places I can lay booby traps in there… you can come.

252 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:14:37pm

re: #249 WindUpBird

what

Stanley’s head.

253 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:11pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

>> shush!

254 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:18pm

re: #251 Walter L. Newton

Ok… I just check out some things in the guest bedroom… there are at least seven places I can lay booby traps in there… you can come.

I can help you re-wire the bathroom if you want ;)

255 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:21pm

Are we getting in to a cooking thread?

256 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:29pm

re: #251 Walter L. Newton

It’s a date then! I’m excited ;)

257 Nick Schroeder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:44pm

re: #186 Gus 802

From the NAACP site:


NAACP Delegates Vote to Repudiate Racist Elements Within Tea Party | NAACP

Click on the link to see the photos.

Charles, you should update the post with this link. Also, from said link…

…reputiate….
…attendees of Tea Party marches using vial, antagonistic racial slurs…

*facepalm*

I guess I should also apply to be the copy editor for the NAACP, in addition to CNN, Fox News, and pretty much half the ‘professional’ journalism/PR universe at this point.

258 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:44pm

re: #250 b_sharp

I assume it has to be softened up somehow. Do you have to boil it before hand?

Yes… boil the cauliflower and turnip beyond recognition and then whip it good… you want to make almost a thick think soup out of it, or at least like well mashed potatoes… very tasty and many less calories than potatoes.

259 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:15:57pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

OK, not my usual schtick, but:

I have a head of cauliflower and don’t want to steam it the usual way. Ideas?

Try baking. My wife bakes it whole until tender then covers it with sour cream, a variety of cheeses, garlic, and some kind of cayenne spice to finish it off.

260 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:16:50pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

turnips rock!

261 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:16:52pm

Mea culpa…I posted my question with my preference (and ingredients - no cheese - drat!) already in my head. Waiting for affirmation of course.

Anyone hear of cutting the cauli like brain sections (slivers) and then roasting it with olive oil?

I needed confirmation or an “all clear”

262 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:16:58pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

Yes… boil the cauliflower and turnip beyond recognition and then whip it good… you want to make almost a thick think soup out of it, or at least like well mashed potatoes… very tasty and many less calories than potatoes.

Cauliflower soup is good stuff.

263 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:17:12pm

Seriously tho’, corn is substantially better microwaved in the husk than it is traditionally boiled or even grilled.

Cauliflower is improved too, at least over normal steaming/boiling… Less mushy. Its hard to get it right tho’, since it doesn’t come with a natural wrapping the way corn does.

264 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:17:13pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

Yes… boil the cauliflower and turnip beyond recognition and then whip it good… you want to make almost a thick think soup out of it, or at least like well mashed potatoes… very tasty and many less calories than potatoes.

Cauliflower and turnips instead of mashed potatoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?

265 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:17:25pm

re: #259 RogueOne

Try baking. My wife bakes it whole until tender then covers it with sour cream, a variety of cheeses, garlic, and some kind of cayenne spice to finish it off.

that is not bad either…

266 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:17:39pm

re: #261 Stanley Sea

Never tried that, but it sounds freakin’ delicious!

267 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:18:32pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Cauliflower and turnips instead of mashed potatoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?

You should try celeriac mash. It’s fantastic!

268 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:18:47pm

re: #261 Stanley Sea

sounds good…add some oregano…mmmmmm

269 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:19:01pm

re: #260 Boondock St. Bender

turnips rock!

they are high in surfer which reduces inflammation in the sinus cavity… any one with allergies should make turnips their friend.

270 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:19:07pm

re: #267 Killgore Trout

You should try celeriac mash. It’s fantastic!

I’d probably like it if I knew what it was.

271 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:19:11pm

re: #256 windsagio

It’s a date then! I’m excited ;)

Easily amused.

If you are really serious, no problem. I’m in Florida for three days in Oct… 24,25,26… otherwise I’m in town until sometime in Jan. 2011, then Paris for 7-10 days.

If you are serious, remember, that’s also a prime time for snow… and if you saw any of the pictures I linked to over this past winter, we are talking possible snows of 2-3 feet at any given time.

I don’t know how you would be coming, but take transportation in the mountains into consideration. Cato came in Dec. 2010, but he luckily didn’t hit much weather… just the snow already on the ground.

272 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:19:25pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Cauliflower and turnips instead of mashed potatoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?

Save the potatoes for the pancakes.

273 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:20:03pm

re: #272 b_sharp

Save the potatoes for the pancakes.

That works for me……

274 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:20:42pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Cauliflower and turnips instead of mashed potatoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?

Preverts abound.

275 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:20:46pm

re: #261 Stanley Sea

Mea culpa…I posted my question with my preference (and ingredients - no cheese - drat!) already in my head. Waiting for affirmation of course.

Anyone hear of cutting the cauli like brain sections (slivers) and then roasting it with olive oil?

I needed confirmation or an “all clear”

that can work or use chicken stock if you eat meat…

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:21:00pm

re: #170 _RememberTonyC

OT, but not really. Even when rush limbaugh is trying to be hip, he falls short …

NEW YORK (AP) - Rush Limbaugh had his own view of George
Steinbrenner.
“That cracker made a lot of African-American millionaires,”
the radio commentator said Tuesday on his show after the New York
Yankees owner died at age 80. “He fired a bunch of white guys as
managers left and right.”
Rev. Al Sharpton called Limbaugh’s statements “repugnant and
offensive whether they were intended to be facetious or tongue and
cheek.”
“For the last 20-years I have known George Steinbrenner and we
have quarreled over diversity and community programs but I always
found him fair, direct, and genuinely prone to do what he felt was
right,” Sharpton said in a statement. “He generated a lot of
money for a lot of players as well as for baseball as a whole. …
Mr. Limbaugh and his broadcasters owe his family an apology.”


I don’t even know enough about Steinbrenner to know what Rush is being facetious about, but dear LORD.

277 researchok  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:21:32pm

re: #270 Mr Pancakes

I’d probably like it if I knew what it was.

It’s a veggie mash, kind of.

West/central Euro in origin, I think. (Belgian, Dutch, like that)

278 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:21:35pm

re: #271 Walter L. Newton

SS came up with the idea, I’d never even thought of it.

The thing is, money permitting (I’d have to plan), I’d 100% love to do it, and 100% enjoy doing it as well.

If you and SS are serious anwyays ;)

279 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:21:50pm

re: #266 windsagio

Do you know these folks?

I bet they aren’t Jimmah’s cup of tea.

280 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:22:09pm

re: #278 windsagio

No pressure of course, I just love doing crap like that ;)

281 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:23:26pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

How can someone in the NAACP be racist?

Anyone can be a hater, regardless of affiliation.

282 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:23:29pm

re: #279 Nimed

Or WUBs ;)

The name is familiar, but I’ve never heard the song before as far as I can remember.

On that subject, this is the earliest pop song I can remember hearing:

283 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:24:06pm

re: #278 windsagio

SS came up with the idea, I’d never even thought of it.

The thing is, money permitting (I’d have to plan), I’d 100% love to do it, and 100% enjoy doing it as well.

If you and SS are serious anwyays ;)

I keep telling you it’s ok… I’ve entertained a number of Lizards over the years… but evidently it’s up to you and SS to make your arrangements… just let me know at least 25 minutes before you get here… I’m rather open on the timing… and there is enough room here for me not to even run into you if I don’t want to :)

You two talk it over, there’s lots of time, let me know something when if you come up with a plan.

Other wise…

284 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:24:49pm

re: #281 eclectic infidel

Anyone can be a hater, regardless of affiliation.

Please… go up thread and follow the comments… I’m not going to explain this again… I’m too nuanced for my own good.

285 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:25:11pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t even know enough about Steinbrenner to know what Rush is being facetious about, but dear LORD.

he was snarking Sharpton’s comment about the Caviler’s owner which was kinda over the top… Sharpton said he was treating Laborn (sp?) like a “runaway slave”… context matters.

286 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:25:19pm

re: #281 eclectic infidel

Anyone can be a hater, regardless of affiliation.

certainly..I hate the feds, the UN, and the MSM…the order varies

287 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:25:23pm

re: #283 Walter L. Newton

Lol fair enough ;) Its just hard to motivate oneself to actually do things like htat ;)

288 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:25:37pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t even know enough about Steinbrenner to know what Rush is being facetious about, but dear LORD.

I think he’s commenting on the fact that Steinbrenner fired Billy Martin a lot. I can’t believe I’m actually on the side of a Yankee in this situation given that I hate the Yankees and that’s putting it kindly. It’s almost like Limbaugh makes no effort to be a decent human being. Note to Rush stuff like this is what people are going to remember you for when you die.

289 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:25:55pm

re: #277 researchok
re: #274 Spare O’Lake
re: #266 windsagio

Is FBV in da house? He can settle this.

290 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:26:23pm

re: #285 brookly red

he was snarking Sharpton’s comment about the Caviler’s owner which was kinda over the top… Sharpton said he was treating Laborn (sp?) like a “runaway slave”… context matters.

Al is a complete, total asshole…look it up

291 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:26:47pm

Since I did the “not surprised” bit earlier I guess I’ll share 2 things I found a little surprising:

Reason ♥’s Willie Brown:
reason.com


Through all of that, Willie Brown has been fairly consistent: an extremely likeable political pragmatist with no particular attachment to principle or ideology. Which makes his new campaign worth listening to: It shows that facts on the ground are no longer possible to ignore.

and:

Tea party groups choose to stand mute on same-sex marriage ruling
www.washingtonpost.com


While many conservative organizations immediately decried a federal judge’s decision last week to invalidate the federal ban on recognizing gay marriages, tea party groups have been conspicuously silent on the issue.

The silence is by design, activists with the loosely affiliated movement said, because it is held together by an exclusive focus on fiscal matters and its avoidance of divisive social issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Privately, though, many said they back the decision because it emphasizes the legal philosophy of states’ rights.

292 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:27:34pm

re: #290 albusteve

Al is a complete, total asshole…look it up

live in NYC have met the man, no need to look it up.

293 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:27:36pm

re: #287 windsagio

Lol fair enough ;) Its just hard to motivate oneself to actually do things like htat ;)

grab some extra Cheetos and you’ll be fine…you can do it, how can one not be motivated to travel?

294 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:28:35pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Cauliflower and turnips instead of mashed potatoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?

In my darkest hours in College.. I always knew for 2 bucks I could buy 2 cans of Campbells Tomato soup and some green beans and some Milk and whip it all up and live for 2 days..Those were the days..Now I bitch about 15 dollar salads…And my morning breakfast sandwich having only egg whites…
jeez…How times change

295 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:28:42pm

re: #285 brookly red

he was snarking Sharpton’s comment about the Caviler’s owner which was kinda over the top… Sharpton said he was treating Laborn (sp?) like a “runaway slave”… context matters.

Poor Rush. He’s so misunderstood. Everyone always takes his comments out of context.

AwwWwwwWwww….

296 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:29:03pm

re: #292 brookly red

live in NYC have met the man, no need to look it up.

the creep probably puts pineapple on his pizza, I’d stay clear of him

297 zora  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:29:05pm

re: #285 brookly red

that was jesse jackson.

rush was saying that this guy made a fortune by making black men rich and tossing the white guys to the side. and good riddance. imo

298 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:29:15pm

re: #293 albusteve

I travel a LOT as it is! Also, you know how it is, its way too easy to have a fulfilling life at home, and travel arrangements are difficult and annoying ;)

299 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:29:31pm

re: #292 brookly red

live in NYC have met the man, no need to look it up.

Hell, I live in Chicago and I don’t need to look it up. He makes not real effort to hide the fact that he’s an ass.

300 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:29:55pm

re: #279 Nimed

Do you know these folks?


[Video]I bet they aren’t Jimmah’s cup of tea.

I like em’

301 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:30:57pm

re: #282 windsagio

Or WUBs ;)

The name is familiar, but I’ve never heard the song before as far as I can remember.

On that subject, this is the earliest pop song I can remember hearing:


[Video]

re: #283 Walter L. Newton

I keep telling you it’s ok… I’ve entertained a number of Lizards over the years… but evidently it’s up to you and SS to make your arrangements… just let me know at least 25 minutes before you get here… I’m rather open on the timing… and there is enough room here for me not to even run into you if I don’t want to :)

You two talk it over, there’s lots of time, let me know something when if you come up with a plan.

Other wise…

Nice song, really.

I love starting things. This could end up being REALLY FUN you know!

302 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:31:15pm

re: #295 marjoriemoon

Poor Rush. He’s so misunderstood. Everyone always takes his comments out of context.

AwwWwwwWwww…

well in this case he was directly referring to a comment made by Sharpton, so it is relevant if you are really interested but I am guessing you are not.

303 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:32:12pm

re: #302 brookly red

well in this case he was directly referring to a comment made by Sharpton, so it is relevant if you are really interested but I am guessing you are not.


Well the Lebron slave comment was made by Jesse Jackson not by Sharpton.

304 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:32:22pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

Ahaha awesome!

If you’re really game I am ;) (but if you’re just joking its cool :p)

you have my email and stuff, we can get working!

Nov is my birthday too!

305 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:32:36pm

re: #282 windsagio

Or WUBs ;)

The name is familiar, but I’ve never heard the song before as far as I can remember.

On that subject, this is the earliest pop song I can remember hearing:


[Video]

Jesus, I hadn’t heard that in ages.

A possible compromise with Jimmah and WUB:

306 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:32:38pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

Nice song, really.

I love starting things. This could end up being REALLY FUN you know!

I’m glad somebody is having fun. The only fun I ever have is poking people with a rubber chicken.

307 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:33:12pm

re: #297 zora

that was jesse jackson.

rush was saying that this guy made a fortune by making black men rich and tossing the white guys to the side. and good riddance. imo

Jackson? I thought it was Sharpton that said “runaway slave” ??? lemmie Google…

308 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:33:40pm

re: #302 brookly red

well in this case he was directly referring to a comment made by Sharpton, so it is relevant if you are really interested but I am guessing you are not.

What comment did Sharpton make that made Rush say those things? I can’t find it.

309 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:33:54pm

re: #307 brookly red

Jackson? I thought it was Sharpton that said “runaway slave” ??? lemmie Google…

same guy, different shoes

310 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:33:56pm

And in other news, David Vitter beclowns himself, again:

TRENDING: Vitter’s ‘birther’ comments draw heat

(CNN) – Louisiana Sen. David Vitter, already bruised politically for failing to adequately explain why he continued to employ a staffer who was arrested for threatening to stab his girlfriend, is now facing heat over his apparent support of investigations into President Barack Obama’s place of birth.

“I personally don’t have standing to bring litigation in court,” Vitter told voters in Metairie, Louisiana Sunday. “But I support conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court. I think that is the valid and most possibly effective grounds to do it.”

Video of Vitter’s remarks were posted by the liberal web site Talking Points Memo on Monday.

When the issue of the president’s birthplace first emerged during the 2008 presidential election, the Obama campaign released the then-senator’s birth certificate showing that he was born in Hawaii. In December 2008, after Obama was elected, the U.S. Supreme Court turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man claiming Obama was ineligible to serve as president. Since then, the White House has called doubts from so-called “birthers” that Obama was born in the state of Hawaii “fictional nonsense.”

But Vitter wouldn’t dismiss the issue outright Sunday, saying, “I know all the information I’ve been able to get my hands on through the media…But obviously with the mainstream media as a filter, that’s not a whole lot.”

The comments are proving to be another gift to Democrats who once considered Vitter all but untouchable in his reelection bid. Despite admitted dalliances with an escort service three years ago, Vitter’s favorability rating remained high and the Democratic candidate – Rep. Charlie Melancon – has struggled to gain serious footing in the race despite his conservative leanings. Polls before Vitter’s latest political foibles showed the Louisiana Republican with a strong double-digit lead over Melancon.

But seizing on this latest opportunity, Melancon’s campaign said in a statement that Vitter’s remarks were evidence the Louisiana senator was “trying to score political points by perpetuating a completely debunked conspiracy theory.”

Vitter was also handed bad news late last week when former Louisiana Supreme Court justice Chet Traylor announced he will challenge Vitter in the state’s GOP primary. Traylor told CNN Monday that while he had been considering a run since last summer; it wasn’t until the last two weeks that he took another look at the race, after being flooded with calls urging him to run.

Some of those calls came from within the GOP Louisiana establishment, Traylor noted.

311 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:33:58pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Well the Lebron slave comment was made by Jesse Jackson not by Sharpton.

Yes Jackson not Sharpton, you are correct, my bad.

312 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:34:51pm

re: #300 Mr Pancakes

I like em’


[Video]

:)

313 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:35:14pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

Nice song, really.

I love starting things. This could end up being REALLY FUN you know!

And I assure you, and any Lizards that has stopped by for a visit, a few hours or a few days, any Lizards will tell you that the differences we may have on certain issues here have never become an issue in person. First off, I’m not built like that, I don’t play that game. It’s sort of like Vegas… what we do here, stays here (side issue… Reid, stay there)… anyway… it would be fun… a day or a week… it’s not a problem.

314 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:35:35pm

re: #311 brookly red

jackson is a bit of an asshole too>>>just saying

315 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:36:21pm

re: #285 brookly red

Uh, that was Jesse. Not Al Sharpton.

Read Jason Whitlock’s article. (Jason Whitlock is who turned me onto LGF by the way)

Jason Whitlock has carved out a place as one of America’s most outspoken sports columnists. An African-American, Whitlock seldom treads lightly on the topic of racism, and today he stomps all over Jesse Jackson for playing the race card with his criticisms of Cleveland Cavaliers owner Daniel Gilbert.

Jackson, as we reported early today, said this about Gilbert’s rip job of LeBron James: “His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave.”

Responds Whitlock, writing for Fox Sports:

msn.foxsports.com

All I can ask is that you read this.

316 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:36:34pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

And I assure you, and any Lizards that has stopped by for a visit, a few hours or a few days, any Lizards will tell you that the differences we may have on certain issues here have never become an issue in person. First off, I’m not built like that, I don’t play that game. It’s sort of like Vegas… what we do here, stays here (side issue… Reid, stay there)… anyway… it would be fun… a day or a week… it’s not a problem.

I plan on a six month visit myself…thanks bro
what’s for lunch?

317 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:36:50pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

That’s the nature of the beast. Even if we all believe what we say and are perfectly serious, blog posting is essentially a game, with different rules and traditions.

Opposing quarterbacks can usually sit down for a good drink after the game, if they have time :)

318 Gearhead  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:37:11pm

Well, for what it’s worth, Rick Barber just lost in today’s runoff.

319 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:38:11pm

re: #314 Boondock St. Bender

jackson is a bit of an asshole too>>>just saying

well on the other side it has been mentioned that playing in FL with no state income tax as opposed to NY would save him like 7 million… hard fact to over look.

320 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:38:21pm

re: #288 HappyWarrior

I think he’s commenting on the fact that Steinbrenner fired Billy Martin a lot. I can’t believe I’m actually on the side of a Yankee in this situation given that I hate the Yankees and that’s putting it kindly. It’s almost like Limbaugh makes no effort to be a decent human being. Note to Rush stuff like this is what people are going to remember you for when you die.

QUITE CONCUR. (DF)

Remember when people used to care?

321 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:38:42pm

re: #305 Nimed

Another compromise;

I know WUB eats it up anyways.

Good combo of a more alternative aesthetic and actually being driving.

322 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:38:44pm

re: #316 albusteve

I plan on a six month visit myself…thanks bro
what’s for lunch?

You know you can… and tomorrow… I may call you. Warning.

323 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:38:56pm

re: #321 windsagio

(oops forgot the embed)

324 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:39:11pm

Sharpton was in Indy this weekend. I had been inclined to believe the kids story (police brutality) until he showed up. He also needs to watch his mouth when talking about Indy.

10 Best Cities For African Americans
blogs.blackvoices.com
We’re #6! Eat it.

325 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:39:14pm

re: #311 brookly red

Yes Jackson not Sharpton, you are correct, my bad.

I can’t find anywhere that says Rush’s idiotic comments were in response to Jackson’s idiotic comments. Looks like they were all on his own.

326 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:39:31pm

re: #316 albusteve

I plan on a six month visit myself…thanks bro
what’s for lunch?

Unfortunately I’m fully booked until after the 2014 Olympics, but if you are planning to be in my neck of the woods in 2015 you are welcome to stop by for a slice of pizza.

327 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:40:10pm

re: #302 brookly red

well in this case he was directly referring to a comment made by Sharpton, so it is relevant if you are really interested but I am guessing you are not.

So the owner of the Yankees, having made his money as a ship and yacht builder is a cracker? Hmmm…

328 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:40:31pm

re: #292 brookly red

live in NYC have met the man, no need to look it up.

FACT CHECK people! My post has already appeared, but you are all on Al Sharpton for now fricking reason!

329 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:41:15pm

re: #328 Stanley Sea

“he’s the man you love to hate”

330 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:41:24pm

re: #329 windsagio

(well, not you personally)

331 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:41:26pm

I know that a lot of “conservatives” feel strongly negative towards the NAACP, but I’ve never understood that. Anyone care to explain?

332 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:41:44pm

re: #319 brookly red

true,and the very real chance that he will get a ring very soon.the cavs really only had the loyalty to the local area thing to go on…hence the huge butt hurt.

333 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:42:01pm

re: #328 Stanley Sea

FACT CHECK people! My post has already appeared, but you are all on Al Sharpton for now fricking reason!

I had a reason.

334 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:42:52pm

re: #331 Cato the Elder

I could, but people would likely get mad at me :)

335 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:43:09pm

re: #278 windsagio

SS came up with the idea, I’d never even thought of it.

The thing is, money permitting (I’d have to plan), I’d 100% love to do it, and 100% enjoy doing it as well.

If you and SS are serious anwyays ;)

*I*’ve actually been to Denver!

Three *hic* guess why

336 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:43:19pm

re: #331 Cato the Elder

they endorse dem….

337 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:43:37pm

re: #335 WindUpBird

You should do it too!

338 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:43:51pm

re: #304 windsagio

Ahaha awesome!

If you’re really game I am ;) (but if you’re just joking its cool :p)

you have my email and stuff, we can get working!

Nov is my birthday too!

Me too (birthday Nov.) mo fo. heh, my little blog commenting could turn into something. ha

339 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:44:02pm

re: #332 Boondock St. Bender

true,and the very real chance that he will get a ring very soon.the cavs really only had the loyalty to the local area thing to go on…hence the huge butt hurt.

well more power to him, and if he gets to pay less taxes all the better.

340 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:44:14pm

“White people love Wayne Brady because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.”

-Dave Chappelle

341 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:44:37pm

re: #335 WindUpBird

i do hear denver is a beutiful city>>>>>>walter?

342 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:44:52pm

re: #337 windsagio

You should do it too!

My travel budget is pretty much shot cavorting with neon hippies at the crossroads of the universe :D

343 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:45:11pm

re: #341 Boondock St. Bender

i do hear denver is a beutiful city>>>>>>walter?

I didn’t really see much of the city :D

344 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:45:11pm

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

And in other news, David Vitter beclowns himself, again:

TRENDING: Vitter’s ‘birther’ comments draw heat

Pitiful. Senator? Pitiful.

345 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:45:27pm

Anyone see this video?:

www.ajc.com

2 officers out of jobs in wake of repeated Tasering of woman


Janice Wells called the Richland Police Department when she feared a prowler was outside her clapboard house in the rural west Georgia town.

The third-grade teacher had phoned for help. But within minutes of an officer coming to her backdoor, she was screaming in pain and begging not to be shocked again with a Taser. With each scream and cry, the officer threatened her with more shocks.

346 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:45:57pm

re: #310 Dark_Falcon

And in other news, David Vitter beclowns himself, again:

TRENDING: Vitter’s ‘birther’ comments draw heat

Way ahead of ya!

littlegreenfootballs.com

Why would Vitter limit these comments to a small gathering in Metairie? Hmmm…he wouldn’t be tossing red meat to the ravenous, would he?

347 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:46:27pm

Vitter’s situation really reminds me a lot of what happened with George Allen here in Va a few years back. Guy looked unstoppable for re-election but he proved himself to be an idiot.

348 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:46:43pm

re: #339 brookly red

well more power to him, and if he gets to pay less taxes all the better.

Quite Concur.

349 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:46:44pm

re: #346 bratwurst

naaaaah

350 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:47:28pm

re: #341 Boondock St. Bender

i do hear denver is a beutiful city>>>>>>walter?

When I went there I was surprised that it was flat land with dead chaparral. Not at all what I expected.

The drive to and fro to the airport took forever……

351 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:47:36pm

re: #346 bratwurst

Way ahead of ya!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Why would Vitter limit these comments to a small gathering in Metairie? Hmmm…he wouldn’t be tossing red meat to the ravenous, would he?

Vitter’s voting bloc

352 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:47:47pm

re: #319 brookly red

well on the other side it has been mentioned that playing in FL with no state income tax as opposed to NY would save him like 7 million… hard fact to over look.

That is a direct Drudge repeat Brookly. I followed it.

353 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:47:49pm

re: #346 bratwurst

Way ahead of ya!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Why would Vitter limit these comments to a small gathering in Metairie? Hmmm…he wouldn’t be tossing red meat to the ravenous, would he?

Sorry, I hadn’t seen that. I sadly don’t get to early-day comment much these days.

354 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:47:54pm

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Vitter’s situation really reminds me a lot of what happened with George Allen here in Va a few years back. Guy looked unstoppable for re-election but he proved himself to be an idiot.

He also made the mistake of assuming that saying something ridiculous at a local event wouldn’t blow up in his face nationally.

355 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:48:25pm

Nite all. The rest of you plan a denver meet up. I know the perfect biker bar and we’ll crash at walters.

356 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:48:35pm

re: #345 RogueOne

Anyone see this video?:

[Link: www.ajc.com…]

2 officers out of jobs in wake of repeated Tasering of woman

I am no LEO expert but I am thinking that perhaps this taser thing is not working out so good. Maybe it should be reconsidered?

357 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:49:07pm

re: #334 windsagio

I could, but people would likely get mad at me :)

Hell, I might get mad at you. When did that ever slow you down?

358 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:49:48pm

I see that the AL GOP picked someone for Gov who at one time was considered the underdog:

Robert Bentley clinches Republican nod for governor in Alabama

Bentley is a “10ther” as well as a strong SoCon:

Abortion is a fundamental assault on the sanctity of innocent human life. I will ensure that abortion in Alabama is limited only to cases in which the mother’s life is in danger. I will oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion. As Governor, I will protect young girls from exploitation and statutory rape by requiring parental notification before a minor may obtain an abortion.

If I’m reading him correctly, he is implying that abortion = exploitation and statutory rape.

Also:

I will ensure that Alabama does not follow the trend of allowing gay marriages or civil unions, and I will protect our state’s right to define marriage as between one man and one woman. I support the Defense of Marriage Act, affirming the right of states not to recognize same-sex marriages licensed in other states.

Will he win in Nov?

359 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:50:29pm

re: #352 Stanley Sea

That is a direct Drudge repeat Brookly. I followed it.

actually I heard it yesterday from someone else… remember drudge don’t writ his own stuff he just links to others. but why the f should it matter? it is true.

360 bratwurst  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:50:38pm

re: #353 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, I hadn’t seen that. I sadly don’t get to early-day comment much these days.

Nothing sad about working for a living, pal! Hope it is going well. I have been gainfully employed myself for over two months now and I am enjoying the work. It is less than 6 miles away in Glenview, so as long as I time the railroad crossings right, I can be there in no time flat.

361 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:51:01pm

re: #358 freetoken

I WILL PROTECT YOUNG GIRLS FROM EXPLOITAAAATION

Why did that line bury my “creepy” meter?

362 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:51:35pm

re: #357 Cato the Elder

Charles has been cracking down some, and I’m proud that he hasn’t had to warn me off (for some reason) yet ;)

363 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:51:43pm

re: #342 WindUpBird

My travel budget is pretty much shot cavorting with neon hippies at the crossroads of the universe :D


Sell stuff @ Burning Man.

:)

364 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:52:39pm
Israeli Warships Allegedly Stop Libyan Aid Ship
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
07/14/2010 05:31

CAIRO — Israeli warships Wednesday reportedly stopped the Libyan ship carrying humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip and diverted it to Egypt.
Youssef Sawani, head of the Gaddafi International Charity and Development Foundation that organized the ship, said it had been stopped and surrounded by four Israeli naval vessels. An Israeli army spokeswoman said she had no knowledge of the report.
The ship is headed for the Egyptian port of El-Arish, Agence France-Presse earlier said, citing an unidentified Egyptian security official. An Israeli military official, who also spoke anonymously by regulation, said the ship’s captain told Israel’s navy he would head for Egypt with the cargo from the Tripoli-based charity.
www.jpost.com

Ya think the flotilla incident taught the fuckers not to push their luck?

365 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:53:10pm

re: #341 Boondock St. Bender

i do hear denver is a beutiful city>>>>>>walter?

It’s a unique city. Has architecture that mimics everything from an east coast city to a northwestern city… with everything in between. That’s why in the 90’s we were a major run-a-way production city for the movie industry… you could use Denver for multiple locations, and never leave the area.

A lot of culture here. More live theatre groups per capita than Chicago. Surprisingly you won’t find much experimental theatre. World class drama, musicals and comedy, and your audience tested standards, but not a lot of avant garde stuff.

Of course, head west 40 minutes and you are in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, getting close to 100 feet high (my house is at 8200 feet), 40 more minutes and you are at 14 thousand feet peaks.

Summer playground, winter wonderland, over 300 sunny days a year. Not a good job market right now, but that’s not rare anyplace in the country.

If you are looking for upscale urban stuff, we have it, but it’s cookie cutter stuff like you can find in any city with the shallow folks.. the in crowd, the scene.

All in all, if you come to Denver, look for the history, the mining history, the western history, the railroad history, the geology, the way the mountain towns built up due to gold, that kind of stuff. Look for the what you can’t find in other places… there’s a fair share of “new” here.

366 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:53:17pm

re: #362 windsagio

Charles has been cracking down some, and I’m proud that he hasn’t had to warn me off (for some reason) yet ;)

/brown nose

367 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:54:03pm

re: #364 Spare O’Lake

Ya think the flotilla incident taught the fuckers not to push their luck?

could be…

368 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:54:23pm

re: #363 Stanley Sea

Seriously tho’, I”ll email you tonight at work, and we can get a dialogue going ;)

369 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:54:29pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

getting close to 10,000 (typo)

370 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:54:36pm

re: #366 brookly red

I’m afraid of jinxing it!

371 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:54:36pm

re: #354 bratwurst

He also made the mistake of assuming that saying something ridiculous at a local event wouldn’t blow up in his face nationally.

Haha yeah he sure did. Such a stupid statement he made considering that college student unlike Allen was Virginia born and raised.

372 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:55:05pm

re: #362 windsagio

Charles has been cracking down some, and I’m proud that he hasn’t had to warn me off (for some reason) yet ;)

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

373 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:55:15pm

re: #370 windsagio

I’m afraid of jinxing it!

don’t worry you can do no wrong.

374 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:55:37pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

TBH I’m surprised I haven’t :D

375 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:56:43pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

heh

376 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:58:30pm

re: #359 brookly red

actually I heard it yesterday from someone else… remember drudge don’t writ his own stuff he just links to others. but why the f should it matter? it is true.

It’s a right wing talking point. Taxes of course! Teams, no way!

Read all about it already! There’s been more than one article about how the right wing grabbed onto the “no taxes for LeBron” hypothesis.

377 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:58:43pm

Thanks to Walter’s generous hospitality, my family and I had a great time sight seeing the natural beauty of Denver’s foot hills.

Thanks, Walter!!

378 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:59:06pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

Sorry, there is no glory in being an occasional asshole.

379 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:59:28pm

re: #374 windsagio

TBH I’m surprised I haven’t :D

Why? You’re aggressive at times but not overly abusive. The only times I’ve seen you push hard was in an in kind response.

380 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:59:44pm

re: #358 freetoken


“I will protect young girls from exploitation and statutory rape by requiring parental notification before a minor may obtain an abortion.”

Sounds like Mr. Bentley isn’t very clear on the concept. Or perhaps he just means that he’ll only “protect young girls from exploitation and statutory rape” in cases where it’s not their father who is the perpetrator.

381 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 7:59:50pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

well said…easily one of my favorite cities and an ex resident

382 Kruk  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:00:12pm

re: #345 RogueOne

Yep, was just about to post a link to that, and also to this one:

online.wsj.com

I hope the Justice Department is aggressive in investigating a lot of the shooting deaths happened post-Katrina.

383 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:00:12pm

re: #379 b_sharp

I thought I’d get nailed over Israel at least once, either that or saying “Reagan hates Black People”

//I kid, never said the latter :)


PS: Mememememe Me me meeeeeee!

384 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:00:16pm

My favorite scene in “Lethal Weapon 3”: Riggs (Mel Gibson) siphoning the gas out of a shot-up police cruiser with a hose and his mouth. When he gets it in the mouth, he chokes, spits it ou, coughs, and says “Pfui! Exxon!”

Wanna bet someone will update that line this year with “Pfui! BP!” - ??

385 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:00:17pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

Now you tell the newbies?

*thinks about topic for a controlled meltdown*

386 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:00:26pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

thanks walter i do look forward to visiting someday

387 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:01:08pm

re: #382 Kruk

Yep, was just about to post a link to that, and also to this one:

[Link: online.wsj.com…]

I hope the Justice Department is aggressive in investigating a lot of the shooting deaths happened post-Katrina.

They have. Many cops have been convicted.

388 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:01:27pm

re: #365 Walter L. Newton

My husband and I met on AOL when he was stationed in Fort Collins. We met for the first time in downtown Denver. There was some festival going on downtown, “Taste of the *something*” IIR. Just a fluke that we were there at the same time, but it was fun.

We didn’t get into the country at all, but I was so impressed with the city. We had a ton of fun and I was introduced to Beer Mats. I’d live in Colorado in a heartbeat, except for that snow and cold weather thing.

389 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:01:28pm

re: #377 prairiefire

Thanks to Walter’s generous hospitality, my family and I had a great time sight seeing the natural beauty of Denver’s foot hills.

Thanks, Walter!!

You’re welcome… I spent a number of comments earlier today complimenting you on the fun I had with you all. If you need any info on Clear Creek so that pan can get some use, call or email me if you have time before you leave the state and maybe you can get in a few hours of panning… or at least getting your feet wet in Clear Creek… the source of Coors mountain spring water.

And I was bragging earlier about the wonderful gifts you brought. Thanks again.

390 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:01:40pm

re: #376 Stanley Sea

It’s a right wing talking point. Taxes of course! Teams, no way!

Read all about it already! There’s been more than one article about how the right wing grabbed onto the “no taxes for LeBron” hypothesis.

so dose it make it any less true? FL has no state income tax and that saves (in his case) several million so what is your point? do you really think that saving millions of dollars is not a consideration? give it a rest.

391 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:01:53pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

Cato shows his war wounds.

392 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:01:55pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

Oh, then I will let loose. Sometime.

393 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:02:22pm

re: #383 windsagio

I thought I’d get nailed over Israel at least once, either that or saying “Reagan hates Black People”

//I kid, never said the latter :)

PS: Mememememe Me me meee!

I think Charles is more concerned with abuse of other posters than in comments that may run counter to his ideas.

394 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:02:52pm

re: #378 austin_blue

Sorry, there is no glory in being an occasional asshole.

What? Well, that just ruined my evening. :)

395 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:03:02pm
396 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:03:21pm

re: #384 Cato the Elder

My favorite scene in “Lethal Weapon 3”: Riggs (Mel Gibson) siphoning the gas out of a shot-up police cruiser with a hose and his mouth. When he gets it in the mouth, he chokes, spits it ou, coughs, and says “Pfui! Exxon!”

Wanna bet someone will update that line this year with “Pfui! BP!” - ??

Btw, there’s another Mel tape out and it’s worse than the other one :(

397 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:03:30pm

re: #388 marjoriemoon

My husband and I met on AOL when he was stationed in Fort Collins. We met for the first time in downtown Denver. There was some festival going on downtown, “Taste of the *something*” IIR. Just a fluke that we were there at the same time, but it was fun.

We didn’t get into the country at all, but I was so impressed with the city. We had a ton of fun and I was introduced to Beer Mats. I’d live in Colorado in a heartbeat, except for that snow and cold weather thing.

Er… well… that’s about 8 months out of the year… down in Denver it was 98 today… up here about 85… right now up here 68… it was in the 40’s last week… so, cool or cold is part of the deal.

398 Kruk  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:03:37pm

re: #331 Cato the Elder

I know that a lot of “conservatives” feel strongly negative towards the NAACP, but I’ve never understood that. Anyone care to explain?

I’m guessing they don’t like their narrative that Minorities have never have never had it so good, and that the white man is now oppressed, questioned so openly.

399 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:03:38pm

re: #392 Stanley Sea

Pff, EVERYBODY wants to see that now.

400 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:04:25pm
# Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal.

Damn.

401 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:04:29pm

re: #378 austin_blue

Sorry, there is no glory in being an occasional asshole.

who said anything about glory?…it’s about being boxed out by Charles and not complaining about it…if you brawl or say something over the edge you go down…it’s about the total LGF experience, including getting chained to the wall for a while if he sees fit

402 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:04:53pm

re: #389 Walter L. Newton

You are welcome, no big deal.

The kids will be using the gold pan in every stretch of water we come across now.

I’m going to have dreams tonight of huge granite boulders perilously perched over rushing rivers, I just know it.

403 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:05:14pm

re: #392 Stanley Sea

Oh, then I will let loose. Sometime.

go for it… just don’t whine if it comes back ;)

404 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:05:19pm
The racist elements of the Tea Party movement are only one of their most visible problems, and maybe not even the worst. The influence of the weird Ron Paul paleo-libertarian cult is also a huge problem, the influence of extreme fundamentalist religious sects is another, and the influence of the John Birch Society and their offshoots is still another.

The Tea Party movement is a deeply destructive force in American politics.

Just quite calling them “Paulians” or “Birchers” and call them by the name they rightly deserve because of their veiws. They are anarchists, plain and simple, when you peel away the layers and get to what they really believe and the positions they advocate.

Sorry but I won’t be supporting their “no government” fantasies anytime soon.

405 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:05:25pm

re: #394 Slumbering Behemoth

What? Well, that just ruined my evening. :)

Why? Just aspire to be a full time asshole. Works for me.

406 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:06pm

re: #393 b_sharp

I think Charles is more concerned with abuse of other posters than in comments that may run counter to his ideas.

true enough…Charles is fair….
mostly

407 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:25pm

re: #401 albusteve

who said anything about glory?…it’s about being boxed out by Charles and not complaining about it…if you brawl or say something over the edge you go down…it’s about the total LGF experience, including getting chained to the wall for a while if he sees fit

One way to look at it. Another way is to not be an asshole.

408 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:25pm

Bentley also apparently believes the Bible should be used in schools, to be taught from:

Either you accept our way of life or you go back to another country that is Muslim,” Potts said.

Most GOP candidates said there is no constitutional basis for excluding some religions while allowing others.

All agreed that teachers in public schools should be allowed to lead voluntary prayers.

Most — including Ivey; state Rep. Robert Bentley, R-Tuscaloosa; former state Sen. Bradley Byrne of Montrose; Greenville businessman Tim James; and Bill Johnson, former director of the Alabama Department of Economic and Community Affairs — said such instructors should also be allowed to teach from the Bible.

409 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:26pm

re: #378 austin_blue

Sorry, there is no glory in being an occasional asshole.

Hahaha…occasional…hahaha.

410 palomino  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:35pm

I just don’t see how people can be upset by all these documented instances of tea party racism when there’s a video from Nov. 2008 showing a scary black man with a nightstick.

The latter is a much bigger problem. I know this because Limbaugh and Breitbart told me so.

411 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:37pm

re: #396 marjoriemoon

Btw, there’s another Mel tape out and it’s worse than the other one :(

I’m trying to imagine what “worse” could be like…

412 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:06:59pm

re: #402 prairiefire

You are welcome, no big deal.

The kids will be using the gold pan in every stretch of water we come across now.

I’m going to have dreams tonight of huge granite boulders perilously perched over rushing rivers, I just know it.

a gold pan!….pretty cool

413 Kruk  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:07:11pm

re: #387 austin_blue

They have. Many cops have been convicted.

It wasn’t just lmited to cops, though. The actions of some of those who “were defending their homes” needs to be put under the microscope as well.

414 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:07:18pm

re: #411 Cato the Elder

I’m trying to imagine what “worse” could be like…

www.radaronline.com

It’s long and hideous.

415 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:07:33pm

re: #158 WindUpBird

Lol, the meme goes on

Obama is president. Is the country united, even more or less, and are we working effectively together for the common good, even more or less?

I rest my case.

416 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:07:35pm

re: #405 b_sharp

Why? Just aspire to be a full time asshole. Works for me.

I just don’t have the energy for that anymore. Besides, no one is hiring for full-time assholes right now. Part-time work is the best I can get.

417 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:07:36pm

re: #401 albusteve

who said anything about glory?…it’s about being boxed out by Charles and not complaining about it…if you brawl or say something over the edge you go down…it’s about the total LGF experience, including getting chained to the wall for a while if he sees fit

Yeah, dude, and when I’m chained to the wall, Summer comes to visit me. Yum.

418 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:08:08pm

re: #408 freetoken

Bentley also apparently believes the Bible should be used in schools, to be taught from:

“Either you accept our way of life or you go back to another country that is Muslim,” Potts said.

Er…our way of life is freedom of religion and separation of church and state. If these folks wanted to live in a theocracy where religious minorities are elbowed out or worse, they could indeed go back to ‘another country that is Muslim’. Or lots of other places, for that matter.

419 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:08:14pm

re: #410 palomino

I just don’t see how people can be upset by all these documented instances of tea party racism when there’s a video from Nov. 2008 showing a scary black man with a nightstick.

The latter is a much bigger problem. I know this because Limbaugh and Breitbart told me so.

We been there, done that.

420 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:08:19pm

re: #406 albusteve

charles lives for a good debate….it’s finding an adversary

421 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:08:24pm

re: #401 albusteve

who said anything about glory?…it’s about being boxed out by Charles and not complaining about it…if you brawl or say something over the edge you go down…it’s about the total LGF experience, including getting chained to the wall for a while if he sees fit

When someone gets chained to the wall, are tomatoes or eggs more appropriate?

422 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:09:08pm

We’ve had about 10 days of normal seasonal weather and thing a re finally starting to grow. My eldest frog has doubled in size in the past week. Hoppy hour seems to be from 5:30 to 6:30 when the mature frogs are most active. He even ventured out of the tadpole refuge today but didn’t go far. He stayed within a foot of his refuge but was exploring around. I’ve given up on summer crops and have little hope left for fall crops. All the squash plants are still only a few inches tall. I figure I’ll start planting my winter garden of kale, collards and chard soon and see how that goes.

423 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:09:10pm

re: #421 b_sharp

tomatos eggs get too stinky

424 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:09:13pm

re: #407 austin_blue

One way to look at it. Another way is to not be an asshole.

you don’t have to be an asshole to get a time out, and not all assholes get one

425 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:09:18pm

re: #412 albusteve

a gold pan!…pretty cool

Just buy a bottle of Goldschläger and if you drink enough you’ll shit out a ring in the morning.

426 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:09:24pm

re: #360 bratwurst

Nothing sad about working for a living, pal! Hope it is going well. I have been gainfully employed myself for over two months now and I am enjoying the work. It is less than 6 miles away in Glenview, so as long as I time the railroad crossings right, I can be there in no time flat.

You’re lucky. I’m working downtown. I can get to work in 50 minutes in the morning, but it takes me an hour and a half to get home. Some of that, though, is that I don’t use Metra to get home (the CTA and Pace are cheaper).

427 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:09:55pm

re: #418 SanFranciscoZionist

Potts lost pretty handily in the Primary. Today was the run off between Byrne (remember his Yes I’m a Creationist video) vs. Bentley, who teaches Sunday School and believes schools should use the Bible.

428 webevintage  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:10:02pm

re: #414 marjoriemoon

[Link: www.radaronline.com…]

It’s long and hideous.

Is that the one where he threatens to set her house on fire…but first she has to blow him? Jesus, the man is just so horrible…I have a feeling the first wife was glad to get while the getting was good.

429 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:10:15pm

re: #402 prairiefire

My brothers & I used to pan for gold on family vacations. Sometimes we would get some black heavy stuff, & then we would take a magnet & pull out all the ferrous stuff, and we would still have heavy black stuff, maybe it was silver. This was in Nevada County, California. We never did get a nugget, those 49ers were thorough.

430 Boondock St. Bender  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:10:51pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

ACK!!! (i live one and a half miles from work)

431 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:11:22pm

Sounds like the captain of the Libyan ship has decided to turn away from Gaza, and Egyptian officials confirm that he’s called ahead to tell them they’ll make port at el-Arish.

The Ghaddafi Good Works and Acting Out Society seems to be insisting this isn’t so.

IDF, with Shayetet on alert, is watching them closely to make sure they keep on goin’ to Egypt.

Also, in other news, apparently Queen Rania won’t allow a Hebrew edition of her children’s book, which is about making friends, and multiculturalism.

432 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:11:26pm

re: #408 freetoken

My response to that person is either accept the American way of life, or pack your bags and take your happy ass on over to a Theocratic country. Assholes.

“We welcome people of all faiths, but at the same time, the standard for America is under the Judeo-Christian principles,” said state Treasurer Kay Ivey.

Only Jewish and Christian religious displays should be allowed on government property, she said.

Wow. Entirely un-American.

433 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:11:35pm

re: #410 palomino

I just don’t see how people can be upset by all these documented instances of tea party racism when there’s a video from Nov. 2008 showing a scary black man with a nightstick.

The latter is a much bigger problem. I know this because Limbaugh and Breitbart told me so.

I wonder about the voices they hear in their heads. Should we be concerned that they are contagious enough to go pandemic?

434 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:11:51pm

re: #390 brookly red

so dose it make it any less true? FL has no state income tax and that saves (in his case) several million so what is your point? do you really think that saving millions of dollars is not a consideration? give it a rest.

Any less true? Weakest argument (there’s a formal word for this, I’m blank) But go ahead, it’s the TAXES that made LeBron’s decision to leave Cleveland fo Miami.

I’m telling you I read 2 articles that discussed the “right wing’s” grasp upon taxes as the LeBron story. PULEEZE.

435 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:12:03pm

re: #425 Mr Pancakes

Just buy a bottle of Goldschläger and if you drink enough you’ll shit out a ring in the morning.

Don’t know about that, but you can see gold flecks in your…waste.

This is one of the less cool things I learned in college.

436 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:12:15pm

All star game just totally turned around. 3 runs in! National league in the lead.

437 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:12:35pm

re: #417 Cato the Elder

Yeah, dude, and when I’m chained to the wall, Summer comes to visit me. Yum.

yes, hallucinations are typical when under that sort of stress

438 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:13:12pm

re: #416 Slumbering Behemoth

I just don’t have the energy for that anymore. Besides, no one is hiring for full-time assholes right now. Part-time work is the best I can get.

It’s the economy.

At one time assholes were highly in demand. You could get a full time job even without papers.

439 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:13:18pm

re: #428 webevintage

Is that the one where he threatens to set her house on fire…but first she has to blow him? Jesus, the man is just so horrible…I have a feeling the first wife was glad to get while the getting was good.

Well, so much for his freakin’ commitment to the sacrament of marriage. But the first wife is an Episcopalian, and Mel said she was going to hell anyway, so who cares?

440 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:13:33pm

re: #421 b_sharp

When someone gets chained to the wall, are tomatoes or eggs more appropriate?

those small red potatoes leave a nice bruise

441 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:13:48pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Er… well… that’s about 8 months out of the year… down in Denver it was 98 today… up here about 85… right now up here 68… it was in the 40’s last week… so, cool or cold is part of the deal.

Oh hell, I’ll only go when it’s REAL. Like winter. 98 in Denver? ugh.

442 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:13:59pm

re: #436 Rightwingconspirator

Wooo Hooo!

(Old Dodger Fan — National League)

443 Kruk  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:14:07pm

re: #414 marjoriemoon

[Link: www.radaronline.com…]

It’s long and hideous.

Heh. How does that saying about plausible deniability go?

Never write when you can speak,
never speak when you can nod,
and never, ever use e-mail leave a recorded message

444 webevintage  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:14:29pm

On the bright side our wealthy have no real worries about their heirs when they die:
www.nytimes.com

“An ordinary trust dissipates as money is distributed to the beneficiaries. But a dynasty trust can avoid this by discouraging outright distributions and instead encouraging trustees to buy, for the use of the beneficiaries, things like houses, artwork, airplanes and even businesses. Because the trust retains ownership, the assets can pass tax-free and creditor-proof to the next generation.
Beneficiaries don’t pay taxes on the use of this property. In contrast, a worker whose employer provides housing or other benefits is taxed on those benefits.
But tax breaks are not the only special advantages that dynasty trusts provide. Even more troubling, they commonly include a “spendthrift clause,” which provides that trust assets cannot be reached by a beneficiary’s creditors. If a beneficiary causes a car accident, for example, the victim cannot be compensated with assets from the trust, even if they are the driver’s only resources. So beneficiaries are free to behave as recklessly as they like, knowing that their money is forever protected for themselves and their heirs. “
445 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:14:35pm

re: #423 Boondock St. Bender

tomatos eggs get too stinky

Right. I forgot about the enclosed space.

446 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:14:39pm

re: #428 webevintage

Is that the one where he threatens to set her house on fire…but first she has to blow him? Jesus, the man is just so horrible…I have a feeling the first wife was glad to get while the getting was good.

I’m not sure about the ex. I found on an interview with Diane Sawyer (I think) after his anti-Semitic tirade where he talks about his alcoholism and said his wife was always there to pick up the pieces. I’m sure she could write volumes. To her credit, she’s been very quiet. They do have children.

But anyway yea, that and he threatens to hit her with a bat and “put her in the rose garden” is how I think he says that.

447 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:14:45pm

re: #432 Slumbering Behemoth

My response to that person is either accept the American way of life, or pack your bags and take your happy ass on over to a Theocratic country. Assholes.

Wow. Entirely un-American.

Jewish religious displays? Ohhh, lady, don’t tempt me. I can make your life not so fun if you tempt me.

448 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:14:59pm

re: #424 albusteve

you don’t have to be an asshole to get a time out, and not all assholes get one

No shit.

449 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:15:03pm

re: #399 windsagio

Pff, EVERYBODY wants to see that now.

Flouncalocity.

450 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:15:08pm

re: #432 Slumbering Behemoth

My response to that person is either accept the American way of life, or pack your bags and take your happy ass on over to a Theocratic country. Assholes.

It looks like the Good People Republicans of Alabama like Theocracy:

Letters to the editor, Huntsville Times, Monday July 12

This letter is in response to Ward Welty’s letter “Out-Christian” condemning Byrne and Bentley for “pandering to Christian Voters.” You are so wrong on so many issues.

First, many people in Alabama, including myself, do believe that God is the supreme ruler thus believing in theocracy. Our entire country once believed this because our laws were designed by those laws handed down to Moses by God.

Secondly, the First Amendment to the Constitution does not say anything about the church and state being separate. In fact, the Establishment Clause you are trying to refer to out of context says that the state will not make any person believe in any one religion, like the Church of England was doing.

[…]

As far as your belief that “whether or not Bentley or Byrne is the better Christian is simply not a relevant question for Alabama voters,” you could not be more wrong. Just because you do not believe in what Christians believe in does not mean it is not important.

Jeffrey Lee Weaber
Hazel Green, 35750

Alabama’s Republicans have spoken.

451 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:15:31pm

re: #425 Mr Pancakes

Just buy a bottle of Goldschläger and if you drink enough you’ll shit out a ring in the morning.

The kind that not even Sauron would wear.

452 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:15:36pm

re: #414 marjoriemoon

[Link: www.radaronline.com…]

It’s long and hideous.

Jaysus.

I feel dirty.

And I also feel like this man needs serious goddamn help, and he won’t get it, because he’s two years old inside. He wants a mommy-virgin-whore to take care of his every need.

Perhaps after hearing himself like that all over the web, he might wake up.

But I suspect the twisted pseudo-Catholic sect that his daddy poisoned him with from childhood on will get in the way.

453 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:15:49pm

re: #434 Stanley Sea

Any less true? Weakest argument (there’s a formal word for this, I’m blank) But go ahead, it’s the TAXES that made LeBron’s decision to leave Cleveland fo Miami.

I’m telling you I read 2 articles that discussed the “right wing’s” grasp upon taxes as the LeBron story. PULEEZE.

who gives a ratsass about LeBron? the fact does not change that FL has no state income tax and millionaires & businesses (including Rush LOL) are flocking there. It is what it is :)

454 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:16:11pm

re: #443 Kruk

“If you don’t want something to be overheard, don’t say it.”

— Klingon motto, found here on LGF.

455 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:16:11pm

re: #443 Kruk

Heh. How does that saying about plausible deniability go?

Never write when you can speak,
never speak when you can nod,
and never, ever use e-mail leave a recorded message

She was recording the conversation. It wasn’t a message he left.

456 webevintage  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:16:51pm

re: #450 freetoken

Alabama’s Republicans have spoken.
First, many people in Alabama, including myself, do believe that God is the supreme ruler thus believing in theocracy. Our entire country once believed this because our laws were designed by those laws handed down to Moses by God.

Secondly, the First Amendment to the Constitution does not say anything about the church and state being separate. In fact, the Establishment Clause you are trying to refer to out of context says that the state will not make any person believe in any one religion, like the Church of England was doing.

head desk

457 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:16:51pm

re: #424 albusteve

you don’t have to be an asshole to get a time out, and not all assholes get one

Whatever.

458 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:17:10pm

re: #390 brookly red

so dose it make it any less true? FL has no state income tax and that saves (in his case) several million so what is your point? do you really think that saving millions of dollars is not a consideration? give it a rest.

Dude, how is it that I know MORE about SPORTS than you?

Lebron wants championships. Period. That’s it. He has endorsements up the wazoo. He has money. he is not concerned about taxes. he’s concerned about rings.

459 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:17:34pm

re: #440 albusteve

those small red potatoes leave a nice bruise

They’re also a good excuse to make a potato gun.

460 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:18:13pm

re: #419 Spare O’Lake

We been there, done that.

Did I miss the resolution?

461 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:18:17pm

Also:

“We welcome people of all faiths, but at the same time, the standard for America is under the Judeo-Christian principles,” said state Treasurer Kay Ivey.

… I have yet to see this oft repeated meme backed up with concrete, constitutional evidence.

462 Kruk  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:18:46pm

re: #455 marjoriemoon

She was recording the conversation. It wasn’t a message he left.

Ah, I see. My bad.

463 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:19:14pm

re: #440 albusteve

those small red potatoes leave a nice bruise

Small red potatoes?…… I say Claim Jumper russets!

464 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:19:24pm

re: #459 b_sharp

They’re also a good excuse to make a potato gun.

heh….consider the possibilities

465 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:19:34pm

re: #424 albusteve

you don’t have to be an asshole to get a time out, and not all assholes get one

So what happened? Wrong place wrong time?

466 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:20:02pm

re: #458 WindUpBird

Dude, how is it that I know MORE about SPORTS than you?

Lebron wants championships. Period. That’s it. He has endorsements up the wazoo. He has money. he is not concerned about taxes. he’s concerned about rings.

as I said who cares about LeBron? I don’t. I am just stating an economic fact, FL has no state income tax. that is all get over it.

467 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:20:18pm

re: #450 freetoken


As far as your belief that “whether or not Bentley or Byrne is the better Christian is simply not a relevant question for Alabama voters,” you could not be more wrong. Just because you do not believe in what Christians believe in does not mean it is not important.


Man I can’t stand belief. It is so cheap and aggressive.

Faith is much better, you either have it or not & it is not something that you “do.”

468 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:20:18pm

re: #452 Cato the Elder

Jaysus.

I feel dirty.

And I also feel like this man needs serious goddamn help, and he won’t get it, because he’s two years old inside. He wants a mommy-virgin-whore to take care of his every need.

Perhaps after hearing himself like that all over the web, he might wake up.

But I suspect the twisted pseudo-Catholic sect that his daddy poisoned him with from childhood on will get in the way.

I would hope so, for his sake, but more for the sake of his kids, to hear their dad like that.

469 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:21:08pm

re: #453 brookly red

Until recently, Florida had an “intangible asset” tax (basically, a tax on your bank accounts and investments) www.abanet.org

They wisely got rid of this, because it was a major impediment toward getting wealthy people to completely relocate to Florida. However, they still have very high property taxes.

470 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:21:08pm

re: #452 Cato the Elder

Jaysus.

I feel dirty.

And I also feel like this man needs serious goddamn help, and he won’t get it, because he’s two years old inside. He wants a mommy-virgin-whore to take care of his every need.

Perhaps after hearing himself like that all over the web, he might wake up.

But I suspect the twisted pseudo-Catholic sect that his daddy poisoned him with from childhood on will get in the way.

He won’t change. He’s got to much money to feel the need to change.

471 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:21:23pm

re: #465 Stanley Sea

So what happened? Wrong place wrong time?

big mouth…I have no complaints, and if I degraded the blog, I apologize

472 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:21:34pm

re: #466 brookly red

as I said who cares about LeBron? I don’t. I am just stating an economic fact, FL has no state income tax. that is all get over it.

Ripe bananas are yellow.

473 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:21:48pm

re: #447 SanFranciscoZionist

What kind of display?

Or should I ask?

474 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:22:03pm

re: #468 marjoriemoon

I would hope so, for his sake, but more for the sake of his kids, to hear their dad like that.

A man like that hasn’t kept his mouth shut around his children. Eeechh.

475 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:22:04pm

re: #402 prairiefire

You are welcome, no big deal.

The kids will be using the gold pan in every stretch of water we come across now.

I’m going to have dreams tonight of huge granite boulders perilously perched over rushing rivers, I just know it.

There’s a lot of streams and river between here and you home… if that’s the case… hopefully you’ll be home by Dec.

476 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:22:16pm

re: #469 reuven

Until recently, Florida had an “intangible asset” tax (basically, a tax on your bank accounts and investments) [Link: www.abanet.org…]

They wisely got rid of this, because it was a major impediment toward getting wealthy people to completely relocate to Florida. However, they still have very high property taxes.

thank you for some sanity…

477 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:23:33pm

re: #472 b_sharp

Ripe bananas are yellow.

no soap radio… wtf?

478 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:23:51pm

re: #473 Ojoe

What kind of display?

Or should I ask?

Oh, I’m just being snarky, because ‘Jewish’ in this case means that it’s OK to have OT stuff that Christians would like anyway, and maybe a Chanukah menorah. I’m wondering how far I can ramp this up with Talmudic quotes, and pictures of the Rebbe and such, before it starts getting ‘un-American’ and uncomfortable.

479 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:23:58pm

re: #460 Stanley Sea

Did I miss the resolution?

I don’t know…did you?

480 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:06pm

re: #473 Ojoe

What kind of display?

Or should I ask?

A GIANT sukkah out on the lawn!

481 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:11pm

re: #450 freetoken

Wow. :sigh:

First, many people in Alabama, including myself, do believe that God is the supreme ruler thus believing in theocracy. Our entire country once believed this because our laws were designed by those laws handed down to Moses by God.

Dear Mr. Weaber,

Just a little tip, continuously repeating a lie does not make it true.

Sincerely,

Someone with just enough brains to realize that our Founders wanted nothing to do with a theocracy.

482 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:13pm

re: #470 Dark_Falcon

He won’t change. He’s got to much money to feel the need to change.

Odds aren’t good, are they. These guys are pretty self-absorbed. Same for Alec Baldwin and David Hasselhoff.

483 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:27pm

re: #475 Walter L. Newton

There’s a lot of streams and river between here and you home… if that’s the case… hopefully you’ll be home by Dec.

nice touch with the mining aspect…it’s the major feature of CO history, and without the history it means so much less to visit

484 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:32pm

re: #474 SanFranciscoZionist

A man like that hasn’t kept his mouth shut around his children. Eeechh.

Yea but the added humiliation of the whole world hearing is pretty brutal.

485 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:35pm

re: #443 Kruk

Heh. How does that saying about plausible deniability go?

Never write when you can speak,
never speak when you can nod,
and never, ever use e-mail leave a recorded message

Whatever the circumstances, that girl (the woman he loved for a short while & had a child with) was smart as hell.

486 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:24:46pm

BTW, Gus, you’ll be pleased to know that the Diary of Dorkus has dubbed you a “Argentine Radical Progressive”. Rodan has devoted a fair bit of time to blogstalking you. You’ve clearly gotten inside his head.

487 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:25:42pm

re: #450 freetoken

Alabama’s Republicans have spoken.

They really should look up “The Enlightenment” on Wiki. Deists, not Theists, founded this country and not a Baptist, Evangelical, or Born-again amongst them.

Lots of Unitarians, though. Lots of folks who believed in the Social Contract, too. That’s why it, rather than Rugged Individualism, is enshrined in the Constitution.

488 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:26:08pm

re: #389 Walter L. Newton

Also, thanks for the meteorites and fossil. Everyone is out on the condo’s deck checking out the CO night sky with our little telescope.

489 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:26:15pm

re: #466 brookly red

as I said who cares about LeBron? I don’t. I am just stating an economic fact, FL has no state income tax. that is all get over it.


I actually feel sorry for anyone who decides where to live solely on the basis of state taxation.

490 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:26:16pm

re: #432 Slumbering Behemoth

As a Jew, I don’t want the Government appropriating “Jewish Symbols”. (Jews, with their caution about idolatry, tend to avoid things like crosses, creches, and statues anyway. The only real symbology would be the menorah, and the Star of David…)

Also, I don’t like the way these theocracists prefix their beliefs with “Judeo-“. There’s nothing Jewish about these beliefs.

491 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:26:43pm

re: #486 Dark_Falcon

BTW, Gus, you’ll be pleased to know that the Diary of Dorkus has dubbed you a “Argentine Radical Progressive”. Rodan has devoted a fair bit of time to blogstalking you. You’ve clearly gotten inside his head.

Our fan club! They so cute :D

492 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:27:01pm

re: #488 prairiefire

Also, thanks for the meteorites and fossil. Everyone is out on the condo’s deck checking out the CO night sky with our little telescope.

you got a METEORITE?
damn

493 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:27:37pm

re: #486 Dark_Falcon

BTW, Gus, you’ll be pleased to know that the Diary of Dorkus has dubbed you a “Argentine Radical Progressive”. Rodan has devoted a fair bit of time to blogstalking you. You’ve clearly gotten inside his head.

Gus has more smarts in his pinky than that whole blog put together.

494 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:27:57pm

I should probably do a Pages entry on Bentley and the Alabama GOP…. Here’s one example from a Bentley supporter:

Byrne doesnt believe in the word of the bible. How can this man be the true republican candidate?

Heh, at least that was to the point.

495 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:28:13pm

re: #478
a Chanukah menorah

We have a word for that! “Chanukkiah” (חנוכייה)

496 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:29:03pm

re: #489 WindUpBird

I actually feel sorry for anyone who decides where to live solely on the basis of state taxation.

why is that not a consideration?….seems harmless enough…I consider the trees where I need to live, I don’t like too many trees

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:29:20pm

re: #487 austin_blue

They really should look up “The Enlightenment” on Wiki. Deists, not Theists, founded this country and not a Baptist, Evangelical, or Born-again amongst them.

Lots of Unitarians, though. Lots of folks who believed in the Social Contract, too. That’s why it, rather than Rugged Individualism, is enshrined in the Constitution.

rugged Individualism! What a joke. Rugged individualism with all the modern amenites… Electrical grid, internal plumbing, moden building materials, modern cars, modern roads, cell phones, internet, hi-def tv, 911, GPS, fire department, police… about as rugged as a Ruth’s Chris steakhouse. As rugged as the Four Seasons.

498 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:29:23pm

re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist

I vote for the live-in camping display!

Very cool, and why not on the courthouse lawn?

My wife’s family is Jewish & I remember a sukkah at one point but I forget which relatives had it.

It was cool & kind of like what Scouting is into, camping and all.

499 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:29:56pm

re: #490 reuven

As a Jew, I don’t want the Government appropriating “Jewish Symbols”. (Jews, with their caution about idolatry, tend to avoid things like crosses, creches, and statues anyway. The only real symbology would be the menorah, and the Star of David…)

Also, I don’t like the way these theocracists prefix their beliefs with “Judeo-“. There’s nothing Jewish about these beliefs.

A cross and star would be fine. Will they add a crescent moon? Maybe a nice little buddha? Don’t think so!

500 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:30:14pm

re: #490 reuven

A while back I read something interesting on the interwebs about the “Judeo-Christan” concept as a fallacy. If I can track it down again, I shall link it. Probably not tonight, though. Too busy lifting beer cans.

501 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:30:24pm

re: #495 reuven

We have a word for that! “Chanukkiah” (חנוכייה )

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer Menorah.

502 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:30:30pm

re: #483 albusteve

nice touch with the mining aspect…it’s the major feature of CO history, and without the history it means so much less to visit

We were down on the Platte, showed the family some eddy’s where black sand had accumulated, explained on a river with still active gold finds, black sand is a good place to look for placer gold.

Once gold was found, the whole shape of Denver up through to the continental divide, changed almost overnight.

And then, when silver was found on the other side of the divide, everything changed again.

Those two major incidents shaped this whole place.

503 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:30:46pm

Good News?


Court rules against FCC policies on indecency

An occasional curse word or even Janet Jackson’s infamous “wardrobe malfunction” on prime-time TV shouldn’t bring down the wrath of the Federal Communications Commission, a federal court ruled Tuesday.

Boobs on the boob-tube!!

504 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:30:55pm

re: #501 Spare O’Lake

A menorah only has 7 branches. Try to use one for Chanukkah, and you’ll come up short!

505 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:31:32pm

re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist

A GIANT sukkah out on the lawn!

All the Jewish employees meet in the lobby three times a day to daven with tallit, tefillin and a portable mechitzah. Lots of fast shuckling.

506 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:31:32pm

re: #489 WindUpBird

I actually feel sorry for anyone who decides where to live solely on the basis of state taxation.

The Franchise Tax Board of California are assholes…….. I moved to Mexico and they questioned me why I stopped paying them. DUH

507 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:01pm

re: #494 freetoken

I should probably do a Pages entry on Bentley and the Alabama GOP

I vote “Yea”.

508 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:13pm

re: #495 reuven

We have a word for that! “Chanukkiah” (חנוכייה )

:)

I’m trying to make my posts relatively readable.

509 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:15pm

re: #488 prairiefire

Also, thanks for the meteorites and fossil. Everyone is out on the condo’s deck checking out the CO night sky with our little telescope.

There is a lot more sky out there then you can see down below in Denver… look for the Milky Way… you can actually see the glow is cast like a broad painted glow of white light across the sky… I believe to the southwest.

510 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:20pm

re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist

And you could be dressed in your med-evil Jewess costume, pounding wheat for flour or something.

511 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:27pm

re: #470 Dark_Falcon

He won’t change. He’s got to much money to feel the need to change.

Well, if there were ever definitive proof that money can’t buy happiness, Gibson is it.

Talk about a man who’s had it all. And could still have “it”, whatever it is.

Fame, fortune, wives, children, houses, cars, sycophants and all the 60-year-old MacCutcheon whisky he can drink. Havana cigars, pools, jacuzzis, bimbos on the side, back, and front. Hell, he can festoon himself with breasts if he wants.

So what’s to be so angry about?

512 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:39pm

re: #502 Walter L. Newton

We were down on the Platte, showed the family some eddy’s where black sand had accumulated, explained on a river with still active gold finds, black sand is a good place to look for placer gold.

Once gold was found, the whole shape of Denver up through to the continental divide, changed almost overnight.

And then, when silver was found on the other side of the divide, everything changed again.

Those two major incidents shaped this whole place.

Blackhawk and Central City are always a nice side trip for the tourists, on a slow day

513 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:42pm

Some houses in December, have blue & white lights where I live. It is very cool.

514 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:48pm

re: #264 Mr Pancakes

Cauliflower and turnips instead of mashed potatoes? What the fuck is wrong with people?

And baked in puff pastry.

515 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:32:53pm

re: #478 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I’m just being snarky, because ‘Jewish’ in this case means that it’s OK to have OT stuff that Christians would like anyway, and maybe a Chanukah menorah. I’m wondering how far I can ramp this up with Talmudic quotes, and pictures of the Rebbe and such, before it starts getting ‘un-American’ and uncomfortable.

No, please, not a picture of the Rebbe…that’s cruel.

516 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:01pm

re: #489 WindUpBird

I actually feel sorry for anyone who decides where to live solely on the basis of state taxation.

It’s a right wing meme about LeBron. I’m amazed it’s traction.

LOL

517 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:04pm

re: #477 brookly red

no soap radio… wtf?

Here goes me in jackass mode:

I am just stating an biological fact, ripe bananas are yellow. that is all get over it.

End jackass mode.

I’m just saying that an isolated comment, where you’ve removed context and links to previous comments is purposely meaningless. Why bother saying it? I trusted you would see that. I was too abstruse.

518 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:18pm

re: #496 albusteve

why is that not a consideration?…seems harmless enough…I consider the trees where I need to live, I don’t like too many trees

It’s a consideration, sure! I’m not saying nobody should take it into account at all. But if it’s the only thing? if it’s number one by far?

I’m saying for me, for what I value, taxation doesn’t even rate, when it comes to picking a state to live in. The city culture of where I live matters most to me, everything else is secondary. Being around the stuff I like to do and the people to do it with.

if I had a kid, I’d imagine the general public education would be a thing I’d consider. Crime is soemthing I’d consider. Oregon has an income tax, it doesn’t bug me too much, since my rent is low and I can basically walk to amazing bars and restaurants.

519 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:39pm

re: #498 Ojoe

I vote for the live-in camping display!

Very cool, and why not on the courthouse lawn?

My wife’s family is Jewish & I remember a sukkah at one point but I forget which relatives had it.

It was cool & kind of like what Scouting is into, camping and all.

This year, I swear I’m gonna put one up on the deck. And watch Ushpizin again.

520 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:40pm

re: #505 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, that’s just silly. You only use Tefillin during the morning prayer. (And not on airplanes… www.huffingtonpost.com )

521 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:54pm

The big dipper has just been found.

522 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:54pm

re: #493 marjoriemoon

Gus has more smarts in his pinky than that whole blog put together.

Quite Concur.

523 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:57pm

re: #509 Walter L. Newton

There is a lot more sky out there then you can see down below in Denver… look for the Milky Way… you can actually see the glow is cast like a broad painted glow of white light across the sky… I believe to the southwest.

no, that’s me lighting my bong in NM

524 austin_blue  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:33:58pm

re: #497 WindUpBird

rugged Individualism! What a joke. Rugged individualism with all the modern amenites… Electrical grid, internal plumbing, moden building materials, modern cars, modern roads, cell phones, internet, hi-def tv, 911, GPS, fire department, police… about as rugged as a Ruth’s Chris steakhouse. As rugged as the Four Seasons.

And yet, if you listen to Rush, Hannity, &c, it was rugged individualism that built this country. Total bullshit.

But there you go. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people. It results in Tea Parties and the Right-wing Blogosphere

525 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:34:16pm

re: #512 albusteve

Blackhawk and Central City are always a nice side trip for the tourists, on a slow day

I suggested that they get over to Clear Creek near Blackhawk… with the gold pan… there is still gold in that river… I have some I got out myself.

526 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:34:48pm

re: #516 Stanley Sea

It’s a right wing meme about LeBron. I’m amazed it’s traction.

LOL

I heard Hannity pushing that this afternoon.

527 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:05pm

Oh well time to wind it up for today.

Back tomorrow at some point.

Thanks for the conversation!

528 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:09pm

re: #506 Mr Pancakes

The Franchise Tax Board of California are assholes… I moved to Mexico and they questioned me why I stopped paying them. DUH

Return the letter with a note. “Please consult the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo for further information on why I am no longer paying taxes in California.”

529 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:13pm

re: #503 freetoken

Good News?

Court rules against FCC policies on indecency

Boobs on the boob-tube!!

Bono’s FUCK!

YEAH

530 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:15pm

re: #521 prairiefire

The big dipper has just been found.

… but enough about your friendly, neighborhood Behemoth.

531 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:48pm

BBIAB… dog is barking… we’ve already had a bear picnicking in our trash a few nights ago… and about 1 week ago, right after dawn… I saw one walking along our fence line, on the other side of the fence… bbiab

532 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:52pm

re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist

A GIANT sukkah out on the lawn!

My son wants us to spend Sukkos with him in Alabama.

Meanwhile my grandson in Safed insists that we are coming back to Israel for the holidays (I wish)

533 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:52pm

re: #500 Slumbering Behemoth

A while back I read something interesting on the interwebs about the “Judeo-Christan” concept as a fallacy. If I can track it down again, I shall link it. Probably not tonight, though. Too busy lifting beer cans.

And people say guys like us don’t get any exercise.

534 Nick Schroeder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:35:56pm

This is pretty hilarious.

The NAACP explicitly states that they are not calling the Tea Party organization racists, they would just like the Tea Party to loudly decry and distance themselves from the racists crawling into bed with them.

Hours later, Tea Party darling Sarah Palin post this to Facebook. If you don’t want to read it, I’ll save you the trouble: it’s a Reagan/freedom/it’s all in the past denunciation of racism, where she claims the NAACP is the bad guys for calling the whole Tea Party racist, which they explicitly did not do.

www.facebook.com

Now let’s see if they can do the same denunciations on-the-spot when Rand and Tancredo get up and suggest that the Civil Rights Act, in whole or part, need to be revisited because Tancredo doesn’t want to sell coffee to Mexicans.

535 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:36:12pm

re: #524 austin_blue

And yet, if you listen to Rush, Hannity, &c, it was rugged individualism that built this country. Total bullshit.

But there you go. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people. It results in Tea Parties and the Right-wing Blogosphere

Well, Rugged individualism has done great things for this country. But its importance is substantially overstated, IMO.

536 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:36:15pm

re: #524 austin_blue

And yet, if you listen to Rush, Hannity, &c, it was rugged individualism that built this country. Total bullshit.

But there you go. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people. It results in Tea Parties and the Right-wing Blogosphere

I like individualism in the creative sense and but individualism without a social contract is meaningless in America. We have 300+ million people here!

537 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:36:47pm

re: #526 JasonA

I heard Hannity pushing that this afternoon.

It’s the biggest story in sports, so they’re of course going to build some rickety scaffolding around it and make it a meme. Whoo!

538 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:36:55pm

re: #504 reuven

A menorah only has 7 branches. Try to use one for Chanukkah, and you’ll come up short!

MY Chanukah Menorah has 8. So kush mir in tuchus. ;D

539 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:37:03pm

re: #515 Spare O’Lake

No, please, not a picture of the Rebbe…that’s cruel.

The Baba Sali instead?

540 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:37:21pm

re: #534 Nick Schroeder

This is pretty hilarious.

The NAACP explicitly states that they are not calling the Tea Party organization racists, they would just like the Tea Party to loudly decry and distance themselves from the racists crawling into bed with them.

Hours later, Tea Party darling Sarah Palin post this to Facebook. If you don’t want to read it, I’ll save you the trouble: it’s a Reagan/freedom/it’s all in the past denunciation of racism, where she claims the NAACP is the bad guys for calling the whole Tea Party racist, which they explicitly did not do.

[Link: www.facebook.com…]

Now let’s see if they can do the same denunciations on-the-spot when Rand and Tancredo get up and suggest that the Civil Rights Act, in whole or part, need to be revisited because Tancredo doesn’t want to sell coffee to Mexicans.

I’ll leave it to Cato to give the Wasilla Twit the smackdown she deserves.

541 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:37:28pm

re: #532 Alouette

It’s like the song Chanukkah in Santa Monica:

542 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:38:21pm

re: #535 Dark_Falcon

Well, Rugged individualism has done great things for this country. But its importance is substantially overstated, IMO.

move to NM…you can still be as rugged and individual as you want

543 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:38:27pm

re: #535 Dark_Falcon

Well, Rugged individualism has done great things for this country. But its importance is substantially overstated, IMO.

Historically, talking about the pioneers, talking about the oregon trail, sure. Homesteading? Sure. It was everything!

But now? in 2010? Global information networks and stace stations and freeways? When “rugged individualism” means a shiny new F-350 in the driveway? Those truly rugged days are gone.

544 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:38:32pm

re: #526 JasonA

I heard Hannity pushing that this afternoon.

It is soo trackable.

Bullshit

545 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:38:36pm

re: #528 SanFranciscoZionist

Return the letter with a note. “Please consult the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo for further information on why I am no longer paying taxes in California.”

Yep…… that would have worked…. but I really didn’t care.

It was a phone call…… I actually told the guy “I’m living in Mexico now should I be paying Idaho and Missouri taxes too?”

546 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:38:42pm

re: #533 Cato the Elder

And people say guys like us don’t get any exercise.

You should see the amount of sweat I work up trying to keep the floor from spinning.

547 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:38:48pm

re: #537 WindUpBird

It’s the biggest story in sports, so they’re of course going to build some rickety scaffolding around it and make it a meme. Whoo!

It must be true, because tax-heavy New York has sooo much trouble attracting great players.

548 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:39:20pm

re: #520 reuven

Well, that’s just silly. You only use Tefillin during the morning prayer. (And not on airplanes… [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…] )

Oh, OHHHHKAY.

But you get my point. These people who think that ‘Jewish’ is all familiar and comfy and just like Christianity would freeeeek out.

549 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:39:30pm

re: #521 prairiefire

The big dipper has just been found.

It was missing?

550 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:39:59pm

re: #486 Dark_Falcon

BTW, Gus, you’ll be pleased to know that the Diary of Dorkus has dubbed you a “Argentine Radical Progressive”. Rodan has devoted a fair bit of time to blogstalking you. You’ve clearly gotten inside his head.

Hey DF. Yeah, I noticed it this afternoon. He keeps repeating that in the hopes that it sticks or something. Hell, if I was a radical it would be an improvement to my boring like. I guess voting for Clinton once and then waiting until 2004 to vote for Bush and 2008 to vote for McCain. Radical man! I guess the radical part was a radical departure from voting for Democrats most of the time. Yeah, those Democrats — they’re sure radical. Or maybe it’s when I was a mover and shaker in Argentina with the Peronists until I left with my family when I was 1-1/2 years old.

551 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:40:16pm

re: #534 Nick Schroeder

Sarah, the divider.

That’s all she’s got.

Bring it on!

552 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:40:50pm

re: #532 Alouette

My son wants us to spend Sukkos with him in Alabama.

Meanwhile my grandson in Safed insists that we are coming back to Israel for the holidays (I wish)

It’s probably still hot in Alabama at Sukkos. Do they have an air conditioner for the Sukkah?

553 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:40:53pm

re: #493 marjoriemoon

Gus has more smarts in his pinky than that whole blog put together.

Thank you Marjorie.

554 Gus  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:41:37pm

re: #550 Gus 802

…boring like life…

I’ve been a lazy typist for the past year.

555 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:41:51pm

re: #521 prairiefire

The big dipper has just been found.

That’s what I was saying this afternoon… nothing beats the natural sciences… you can spend tons of money on games and toys and what ever, but all you have to do is walk outside and a world of natural wonders, material, stuff… are at your fingertips.

I’m smiling now… I’m glad you are enjoying nature in Colorado.

556 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:41:54pm

re: #547 JasonA

It must be true, because tax-heavy New York has sooo much trouble attracting great players.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha :D

557 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:42:00pm

re: #549 SanFranciscoZionist

It was missing?

I made a big bowl of punch for my last party and forgot to put it back. Sorry, sailors!

558 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:42:34pm

re: #548 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, OHHHKAY.

But you get my point. These people who think that ‘Jewish’ is all familiar and comfy and just like Christianity would freeek out.

I imagine there are quite a few people who think Jews believe in the Old Testament, not the New, and that’s it for the differences. I kinda wish the label “Judeo-Christian” would go away.

559 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:43:03pm

re: #520 reuven

Well, that’s just silly. You only use Tefillin during the morning prayer. (And not on airplanes… [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…] )

You don’t USE Tefillin…you LAYG them.

560 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:43:09pm

re: #542 albusteve

move to NM…you can still be as rugged and individual as you want

You know what I mean though, how rugged is rugged in a modern and wealthy society with resources at your disposal? You can live in the middle of nowhere on Mt. Hood in oregon, not see a soul for miles, but still get a bunch of fixins at Home Depot with no trouble, Fed Ex delivers, etc.

561 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:43:43pm

re: #558 JasonA

Its convenient tho’!

562 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:44:09pm

re: #548 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, it is familiar and comfy. But it probably would throw a lot of non-Jews for a loop.

One story: For some reason, the associates and employees in my little consulting firm have Hebrew names. Like Dathan, Carmi, and Reuven, for example. We’ve done some tech consulting for some major multi-media installations at some Christian-themed shows and mega-Churches. And these names—straight out of the Hebrew Bible, stump them! We have to spell our names for them, and they’ll say “I never heard that name before”, etc…..

563 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:44:47pm

re: #558 JasonA

I imagine there are quite a few people who think Jews believe in the Old Testament, not the New, and that’s it for the differences. I kinda wish the label “Judeo-Christian” would go away.

That’s why I prefer the terms Hebrew Scriptures and Greek Scriptures. New Testament… it’s not a new testament for Jews, and it’s sort of insulting, at least the implication I get is that the old testament was not good enough.

564 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:45:11pm

re: #550 Gus 802

Hey DF. Yeah, I noticed it this afternoon. He keeps repeating that in the hopes that it sticks or something. Hell, if I was a radical it would be an improvement to my boring like. I guess voting for Clinton once and then waiting until 2004 to vote for Bush and 2008 to vote for McCain. Radical man! I guess the radical part was a radical departure from voting for Democrats most of the time. Yeah, those Democrats — they’re sure radical. Or maybe it’s when I was a mover and shaker in Argentina with the Peronists until I left with my family when I was 1-1/2 years old.

I hear you. That’s his thing though; Anyone who has criticized in any way and still posts here is a “Radical Progressive”. Unless they are a “Totalitarian Fascist”.

Booga Booga.

565 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:45:18pm

re: #521 prairiefire

The big dipper has just been found.

It was lost?

Damn.

566 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:45:35pm

re: #560 WindUpBird

The guy living in a cave in Montana finally died this year (I think it was Montana, maybe Idaho).

You can DO it anywhere, just most people don’t have the mindset for it… More to the point, its not a morally superior way to live in any way.

Somebody that gives nothing and takes nothing might as well not exist, so far as society is concerned.

567 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:45:57pm

re: #561 windsagio

Its convenient tho’!

I guess. Perhaps I’m just looking forward to a day when we recognize and celebrate our cultural differences instead of pretending they’re no there. Oh well.

568 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:46:26pm

re: #560 WindUpBird

You know what I mean though, how rugged is rugged in a modern and wealthy society with resources at your disposal? You can live in the middle of nowhere on Mt. Hood in oregon, not see a soul for miles, but still get a bunch of fixins at Home Depot with no trouble, Fed Ex delivers, etc.

yes, it’s all about choices, but NM is still a vast, empty place if you want rugged solitude, you will find it here

569 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:46:55pm

re: #567 JasonA

Well the Jews are “OK”, compared to the dirt religions (they’re almost right, after all!) so you have to give them an out when talking about how the country is based on your own religion.

570 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:47:28pm

BTW, check out Rodan’s “Diary of Daedalus”. Reggie is on there right now giving the Stalkers the What For.

571 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:48:50pm

re: #570 Dark_Falcon

BTW, check out Rodan’s “Diary of Daedalus”.

No.

572 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:48:52pm

re: #563 Walter L. Newton

That’s why I prefer the terms Hebrew Scriptures and Greek Scriptures. New Testament… it’s not a new testament for Jews, and it’s sort of insulting, at least the implication I get is that the old testament was not good enough.

I just think of it like the New Adventures of Superman…not quite as good as the original.

573 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:04pm

re: #566 windsagio

The guy living in a cave in Montana finally died this year (I think it was Montana, maybe Idaho).

You can DO it anywhere, just most people don’t have the mindset for it… More to the point, its not a morally superior way to live in any way.

Somebody that gives nothing and takes nothing might as well not exist, so far as society is concerned.

It’s also not, historically speaking, a norm of human behavior. We went through a period, the push West, where usually for short periods of time, individuals or families did have to supply all their own needs without much outside support. Little House on the Prairie, et al. But humans tend to live in groups and specialize labor, because that gets you better stuff and is safer. I sometimes think Americans have a skewed idea of historical norms because the settling of the continent is such a major event for us, historically and emotionally.

574 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:12pm

re: #570 Dark_Falcon

BTW, check out Rodan’s “Diary of Daedalus”. Reggie is on there right now giving the Stalkers the What For.

Let’s not and say we did!

575 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:18pm

re: #566 windsagio

The guy living in a cave in Montana finally died this year (I think it was Montana, maybe Idaho).

You can DO it anywhere, just most people don’t have the mindset for it… More to the point, its not a morally superior way to live in any way.

Somebody that gives nothing and takes nothing might as well not exist, so far as society is concerned.

that’s the point, it has nothing to do with morality that I can see

576 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:23pm

re: #432 Slumbering Behemoth

My response to that person is either accept the American way of life, or pack your bags and take your happy ass on over to a Theocratic country. Assholes.

Wow. Entirely un-American.

Image: atheism.jpg

577 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:42pm

re: #569 windsagio

Well the Jews are “OK”, compared to the dirt religions (they’re almost right, after all!) so you have to give them an out when talking about how the country is based on your own religion.

Also, they’re not scared of us.

578 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:43pm

re: #542 albusteve

move to NM…you can still be as rugged and individual as you want

Just like in the Yukon, or the North West Territories, or even Nunavut. I hear Ellesmere Island is a great place to be rugged and individual.

579 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:44pm

re: #570 Dark_Falcon

BTW, check out Rodan’s “Diary of Daedalus”. Reggie is on there right now giving the Stalkers the What For.

I looked earlier. It seems they’ve labeled me as a supporter of the black panthers. Idiots.

580 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:49:49pm

re: #534 Nick Schroeder

Then you’ll love the Palin superimposed over Reagan buttons here and here, and a zillion other places. I saw a more professional looking one the other day, but didn’t bother to bookmark it.

It’s political necrophilia. And the one who’s dead has no say-so about whichever nutcase hitches their wagon to their memory.

Per usual, Palin is an shallow, dishonest, deficient, blundering, opportunistic, glom-on.

581 What, me worry?  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:05pm

re: #576 Nimed

Image: atheism.jpg

Oh that’s just wrong!

I gotta go. Niters lizards :)

582 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:07pm

re: #568 albusteve

yes, it’s all about choices, but NM is still a vast, empty place if you want rugged solitude, you will find it here

oh yeah, I can dig that

Probably a muscle car owner’s dream :D OPEN ROOOAD

583 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:10pm

re: #571 goddamnedfrank

No.

best comment you have ever posted

584 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:20pm

re: #574 marjoriemoon

Let’s not and say we did!

Well, let’s at least upding Reggie when he arrives here for his valor and stamina.

585 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:20pm

re: #546 Slumbering Behemoth

You should see the amount of sweat I work up trying to keep the floor from spinning.

Try a staple gun.

586 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:40pm

re: #570 Dark_Falcon

We are robbing his will to live.

I almost spat Rocky Road all over my monitor.

587 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:50:58pm

re: #548 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, OHHHKAY.

But you get my point. These people who think that ‘Jewish’ is all familiar and comfy and just like Christianity would freeek out.

I get the impression that a great many of them who use the phrase do not at all feel familiar or comfortable with Judaism, but that they’re simply using y’all as a prop, or a foil. Just my impression.

588 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:03pm

re: #571 goddamnedfrank

No.

Agreed. They thrive on attention.

What we want is a total LGF ignore-‘em to death policy.

589 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:20pm

re: #579 Killgore Trout

I looked earlier. It seems they’ve labeled me as a supporter of the black panthers. Idiots.

Huh, it seems I’m a supporter of Andrew Sullivan too. Go figure.

590 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:22pm

re: #578 b_sharp

Just like in the Yukon, or the North West Territories, or even Nunavut. I hear Ellesmere Island is a great place to be rugged and individual.

too cold…I like my bitchin high desert tan

591 jaunte  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:30pm

re: #588 Cato the Elder

Agreed. They thrive on attention.

What we want is a total LGF ignore-‘em to death policy.

Good policy.

592 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:49pm

re: #584 Dark_Falcon

Well, let’s at least upding Reggie when he arrives here for his valor and stamina.

We did that with Irish Rose, remember? It did not end well.

593 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:53pm

re: #587 Slumbering Behemoth

I get the impression that a great many of them who use the phrase do not at all feel familiar or comfortable with Judaism, but that they’re simply using y’all as a prop, or a foil. Just my impression.

I wouldn’t say you were wrong about that, either.

594 aurelius  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:51:57pm

Testament 2.0

re: #572 Spare O’Lake

I just think of it like the New Adventures of Superman…not quite as good as the original.

595 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:52:23pm

And the National league wins, first time since 1996!

596 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:52:39pm

re: #586 JasonA

I almost spat Rocky Road all over my monitor.

I didn’t say what you quoted me as saying. Sorry.

597 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:52:54pm

re: #570 Dark_Falcon

BTW, check out Rodan’s “Diary of Daedalus”. Reggie is on there right now giving the Stalkers the What For.

I avoid confrontation…….

598 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:53:06pm

re: #592 Cato the Elder

We did that with Irish Rose, remember? It did not end well.

she led with her chin…stupid

599 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:53:16pm

re: #595 Rightwingconspirator

And the National league wins, first time since 1996!

That’s good news. It’ll give them a better chance in the World Series.

600 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:53:51pm

re: #580 theheat

Then you’ll love the Palin superimposed over Reagan buttons here and here, and a zillion other places. I saw a more professional looking one the other day, but didn’t bother to bookmark it.

It’s political necrophilia. And the one who’s dead has no say-so about whichever nutcase hitches their wagon to their memory.

Per usual, Palin is an shallow, dishonest, deficient, blundering, opportunistic, glom-on.

Yeah, she had no clue about Reagan and Immigration on the Bill O. show. Glom-on precisely, and no one objects.

Nancy?

601 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:54:09pm

re: #563 Walter L. Newton

That’s why I prefer the terms Hebrew Scriptures and Greek Scriptures. New Testament… it’s not a new testament for Jews, and it’s sort of insulting, at least the implication I get is that the old testament was not good enough.

Can I assume that you are familiar with this piece of Lewis Black stand-up comedy? NSFW.

602 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:54:23pm

re: #596 Dark_Falcon

I didn’t say what you quoted me as saying. Sorry.

No, that was Doofus. Just quoting from the comments you asked me to read, DF.

603 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:55:43pm

re: #568 albusteve

Its no different than most states in the west tho’ >>

My parents knew a guy who lived ‘off the grid’ in the San Juan Islands for decades (On Yellow Island). That’s living the rugged life.

604 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:56:38pm

re: #575 albusteve

Except ‘rugged individualism’ et al keeps being trumped up as a virtue.

605 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:57:04pm

re: #599 Dark_Falcon

That’s good news. It’ll give them a better chance in the World Series.

Nah, no it won’t.

606 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:57:11pm

re: #603 windsagio

Its no different than most states in the west tho’ >>

My parents knew a guy who lived ‘off the grid’ in the San Juan Islands for decades (On Yellow Island). That’s living the rugged life.

it’s completely different than any other state, west or elsewhere….you missed it

607 jaunte  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:57:28pm

re: #604 windsagio

It just sounds better than ‘cranky loner’.

608 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:57:29pm

re: #606 albusteve

Now yer just messing with me :D

609 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:57:42pm

re: #604 windsagio

Except ‘rugged individualism’ et al keeps being trumped up as a virtue.

I’d love to see El Rushbo “Go Galt.”

610 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:58:48pm

re: #589 Killgore Trout

Huh, it seems I’m a supporter of Andrew Sullivan too. Go figure.

Have they gotten to the part where you’re actually the devil’s right hand man? That’s my favorite part of the fairy tale.

611 aurelius  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:58:58pm

I just don’t understand how the teabaggers can even pretend not to be racist…

They’re caught on tape screaming the n-word at 3 distinguished African-American congressmen…

Shut up and take your punishment, wingnuts…

612 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:59:18pm

re: #604 windsagio

Except ‘rugged individualism’ et al keeps being trumped up as a virtue.

it was a virtue at one time…how do you think the west was opened?….the spirit lives on regardless of modern technology

613 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:59:34pm

re: #611 aurelius

Faked Footage!

(if that doesn’t take, try to throw in “Liberal plants!”)

614 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:59:34pm

re: #609 JasonA

I’d love to see El Rushbo “Go Galt.”

Is that anything like getting naked?

615 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:59:37pm

re: #611 aurelius

I just don’t understand how the teabaggers can even pretend not to be racist…

They’re caught on tape screaming the n-word at 3 distinguished African-American congressmen…

Shut up and take your punishment, wingnuts…

What kind of tape?

616 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:59:40pm

Good Night All!

617 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 8:59:47pm

And no, Jorline, I don’t want Republicans to lose. I really like my GOP candidates for Congressman (Joel Pollack) and for Senate (Mark Kirk) and I will be voting for the GOP gubernatorial condidate (Bill Brady) as well. I’ll donate to them if I am able, and campaign for them when I can. I’m not rooting for the Dems. Even though Bill Brady is a Creationist, I’ll still vote for him because he’s honest and a much-needed opponent to the corrupt Dem machine.

618 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:00:03pm

re: #602 JasonA

No, that was Doofus. Just quoting from the comments you asked me to read, DF.

Sorry.

619 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:00:20pm

re: #614 b_sharp

Is that anything like getting naked?

NO!

620 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:00:42pm

re: #617 Dark_Falcon

That one was directed to someone from another blog to answer a developing meme over there.

621 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:01:32pm

re: #612 albusteve

Well to answer seriously, the west was opened up by a desire for people to better themselves, whether by seeking land (like in homesteading) or just through wealth (various mining rushes). Don’t confuse a necessity to succeed in that context to the purpose of the endevour.

622 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:01:39pm

re: #611 aurelius

*cough*

623 aurelius  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:01:48pm

re: #613 windsagio

Faked Footage!

(if that doesn’t take, try to throw in “Liberal plants!”)


lol

yeah that guy screaming in Cleaver’s face didn’t quite have the look of a liberal plant… good makeup artist maybe…

/

624 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:02:02pm

re: #608 windsagio

Now yer just messing with me :D

change your travel habits…there is no state even remotely ‘like’ NM, physically, historically and especially socially

625 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:02:52pm

Seriously, folks, if I could presume to give advice to a big bunch of anarchists like the ones who hang out here, I’d say let’s permanently ignore the Village.

They already comb every thread here for stuff they can use to get off on, about our fights, our personal lives, our dogs and cats and ferrets and weasels.

Every time someone here takes notice of it, they get all happy-like, drink until they pass out, and then wake up in a stupor and rut like monkeys.

It’s really a kind of cruelty to animals to poke them with sticks like that.

626 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:03:05pm

re: #617 Dark_Falcon

And no, Jorline, I don’t want Republicans to lose. I really like my GOP candidates for Congressman (Joel Pollack) and for Senate (Mark Kirk) and I will be voting for the GOP gubernatorial condidate (Bill Brady) as well. I’ll donate to them if I am able, and campaign for them when I can. I’m not rooting for the Dems. Even though Bill Brady is a Creationist, I’ll still vote for him because he’s honest and a much-needed opponent to the corrupt Dem machine.

where’s Jorline?…I liked that guy

627 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #610 Slumbering Behemoth

Have they gotten to the part where you’re actually the devil’s right hand man? That’s my favorite part of the fairy tale.

They though I was Charles for a while but I haven’t seen that one for wuite some time. Usually when someone devotes a blog to me I tend to read it out of narcissistic impulse. This one seems too stupid to bother with. They can’t even manage a legible screenshot of my comments which they are misinterpreting. I wrote that crap and even I don’t know what they’re talking about.

628 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:03:32pm

re: #624 albusteve

But that’s true of every State, especially in the west.

To take an example I know well, there’s nothing like the San Juans in the rest of the country, and there’s no City like Portland.

629 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:03:51pm

re: #604 windsagio

Except ‘rugged individualism’ et al keeps being trumped up as a virtue.

I’d say, in it’s essence, it is a virtue. But not one exemplified by those they attribute it to in this modern age.

630 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:04:06pm

re: #608 windsagio

Now yer just messing with me :D

He’s correct… and then there is Roswell… did you see the recent issue of the US Sun magazine… there was a recent crash of another UFO in Roswell… and the only survivor was an alien cat… I saw the picture… looked like Chupracabra with a long tail. Scary.

631 pharmmajor  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:04:48pm
Charles:
…The influence of the weird Ron Paul paleo-libertarian cult is also a huge problem…

You do know that the Tea Party was initially a libertarian movement before it was hijacked by the forces you mentioned, right?

632 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:04:52pm

re: #625 Cato the Elder

Except they also totally want the validation of people on here paying attention to us.

Feels to me like this community loses either way by paying attention to them.

633 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:05:26pm

Ok! It’s time to pump ivory for a couple of hours and then get to bed. Goodnight!

634 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:05:36pm

re: #629 Slumbering Behemoth

Its certainly good to have if you need it!

635 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:06:01pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

They though I was Charles for a while but I haven’t seen that one for wuite some time. Usually when someone devotes a blog to me I tend to read it out of narcissistic impulse. This one seems too stupid to bother with. They can’t even manage a legible screenshot of my comments which they are misinterpreting. I wrote that crap and even I don’t know what they’re talking about.

The weird one was the webevintage quote he put up.

“I hate a lot of white people too.”

He thinks that line is racist.

636 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:06:15pm
637 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:06:30pm

re: #625 Cato the Elder

Every time someone here takes notice of it, they get all happy-like, drink until they pass out, and then wake up in a stupor and rut like monkeys.

Since when is abusing a dirty sweat sock considered “rutting”?

638 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:06:38pm

re: #635 JasonA

The weird one was the webevintage quote he put up.

“I hate a lot of white people too.”

He thinks that line is racist.

It was a joooooke. Idiot.

639 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:07:36pm

re: #637 Slumbering Behemoth

Since when is abusing a dirty sweat sock considered “rutting”?

Monkeys do it.

640 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:08:52pm

re: #631 pharmmajor

You do know that the Tea Party was initially a libertarian movement before it was hijacked by the forces you mentioned, right?

A point I keep trying to ridicule the Neo-Teahadis with, but they refuse to see it.

641 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:09:40pm

re: #630 Walter L. Newton

There was another chupacabra - just this morning - supposedly found in Texas by a farmer.

These are not alien animals. More often, they’re emaciated coyotes, and sometimes even bears, made hairless from mange. And once the flies get to them, or they get rainsoaked, they aren’t pretty.

I imagine these supposedly “seasoned” animal owning farmers running around like Chicken Little, believing the sky is falling. Talk about gullible and shit-all stupid.

642 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:09:43pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

They though I was Charles for a while but I haven’t seen that one for wuite some time. Usually when someone devotes a blog to me I tend to read it out of narcissistic impulse. This one seems too stupid to bother with. They can’t even manage a legible screenshot of my comments which they are misinterpreting. I wrote that crap and even I don’t know what they’re talking about.

Whether you are Charles or not makes no difference to me…… you have a name coined by Kurt fucking Vonnegut (RIP) which is way cool…….. and to think I almost signed up as “Montana Wildhack”.

643 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:09:46pm

re: #637 Slumbering Behemoth

Since when is abusing a dirty sweat sock considered “rutting”?

Depends on which orifice that sweat sock is stuffed.

644 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:10:30pm

re: #642 Mr Pancakes

Whether you are Charles or not makes no difference to me… you have a name coined by Kurt fucking Vonnegut (RIP) which is way cool… and to think I almost signed up as “Montana Wildhack”.

Heh. Now that’s something I would pay not to see.

645 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:10:47pm

Fox News website is now running the slightly longer AP version of the Iowa billboard story:

Iowa Tea Party Billboard Compares Obama to Hitler

“That’s just a waste of money, time, resources and it’s not going to further our cause,” said Shelby Blakely, a leaders of the Tea Party Patriots, a national group. “It’s not going to help our cause. It’s going to make people think that the tea party is full of a bunch of right-wing fringe people, and that’s not true.”

Blakely also expressed outrage at linking Obama to Hitler, the leader of Nazi Germany who oversaw the killing of 6 million Jews and whose invasions of neighboring countries led to World War II.

“When you compare Obama to Hitler, that to me does a disservice to the Jews who both survived and died in the Holocaust and to the Germans who lived under Nazi regime rule,” Blakely said.

John White, an Iowa coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots, said that he can understand the North Iowa group’s perception that Obama is “Hitler-esque,” but he thinks the billboard is offensive and unproductive. White said that he planned to discuss the matter with national tea party officials.

Hmmm…

646 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:10:56pm

re: #641 theheat

There was another chupacabra - just this morning - supposedly found in Texas by a farmer.

These are not alien animals. More often, they’re emaciated coyotes, and sometimes even bears, made hairless from mange. And once the flies get to them, or they get rainsoaked, they aren’t pretty.

I imagine these supposedly “seasoned” animal owning farmers running around like Chicken Little, believing the sky is falling. Talk about gullible and shit-all stupid.

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really chupacabra’s?

647 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:11:04pm

re: #625 Cato the Elder

Seriously, folks, if I could presume to give advice to a big bunch of anarchists like the ones who hang out here, I’d say let’s permanently ignore the Village.

They already comb every thread here for stuff they can use to get off on, about our fights, our personal lives, our dogs and cats and ferrets and weasels.

Every time someone here takes notice of it, they get all happy-like, drink until they pass out, and then wake up in a stupor and rut like monkeys.

It’s really a kind of cruelty to animals to poke them with sticks like that.



So let’s do it already.

648 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:11:27pm

re: #641 theheat

There was another chupacabra - just this morning - supposedly found in Texas by a farmer.

These are not alien animals. More often, they’re emaciated coyotes, and sometimes even bears, made hairless from mange. And once the flies get to them, or they get rainsoaked, they aren’t pretty.

I imagine these supposedly “seasoned” animal owning farmers running around like Chicken Little, believing the sky is falling. Talk about gullible and shit-all stupid.

lighten up, it’s a legend, like Big Foot

649 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:11:46pm

re: #646 Walter L. Newton

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really chupacabra’s?

You sound so…disappointed.

650 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:11:47pm

re: #646 Walter L. Newton

I have the only real one, Walter. Sorry. But for $9.95 I can send you a photo. I take PayPal.

651 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:11:50pm

re: #645 freetoken

Fox News website is now running the slightly longer AP version of the Iowa billboard story:

Iowa Tea Party Billboard Compares Obama to Hitler

Hmmm…

“Hitler-esque?” Jeez…

652 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:12:04pm

re: #648 albusteve

lighten up, it’s a legend, like Big Foot

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really Big Foot’s?

653 aurelius  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:12:43pm

libertarians keep getting hijacked

see Jesse Ventura, Howard Stern, Rand Paul, tea party

it’s like a thing they do

racism abhors a vacuum I guess

when you support nothing, it’s easy to fill the void

re: #640 Slumbering Behemoth

A point I keep trying to ridicule the Neo-Teahadis with, but they refuse to see it.

654 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:12:43pm

re: #645 freetoken

Fox News website is now running the slightly longer AP version of the Iowa billboard story:

Iowa Tea Party Billboard Compares Obama to Hitler

Hmmm…

Un-FUCKING-Patriotic is the word they’re looking for.

655 freetoken  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:12:50pm

re: #651 JasonA

“Hitler-esque?” Jeez…

What? Are you implying the Tea Partiers are “right-wing fringe people”?!

656 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:13:11pm

re: #652 Walter L. Newton

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really Big Foot’s?

Bigfoot’s what? Dog? Wife?

657 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:13:12pm

re: #647 Spare O’Lake

So let’s do it already.

some people are hooked on the attention…not gonna happen

658 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:13:28pm

re: #645 freetoken

Fox News website is now running the slightly longer AP version of the Iowa billboard story:

Iowa Tea Party Billboard Compares Obama to Hitler

Hmmm…

All I can say is LOL. Live in it fools!

659 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:13:43pm

re: #650 theheat

I have the only real one, Walter. Sorry. But for $9.95 I can send you a photo. I take PayPal.

Actually, cryptozoology is a fascinating study, what most interesting is when the one out of hundreds of “finds” actually turn out to be a new creature or specie or a rediscovery of a long thought lost living thing.

660 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:13:56pm

re: #648 albusteve

On CNN, with video, the farmer was describing how this couldn’t possibly be a coyote, or any animal he’d ever seen. He called it a chupacabra.

Coyote. With mange. End of story.

661 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:14:19pm

re: #655 freetoken

What? Are you implying the Tea Partiers are “right-wing fringe people”?!

Oh, I have no trouble saying it outright. :P

662 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:14:21pm

re: #539 SanFranciscoZionist

The Baba Sali instead?

I have pictures of my kids and grandkids (Zionist Overlords of the Future)

663 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:14:48pm

re: #652 Walter L. Newton

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really Big Foot’s?

we have to wait for the Final Act…who knows?…Big Foot is more likely than, say, Moses for example

664 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:15:11pm

re: #609 JasonA

I’d love to see El Rushbo “Go Galt.”

A talk-radio host like Limbaugh neatly exemplifies one of the many Randian fallacies — that people have some intrinsic worth rewarded by the market but largely independent of society. Put Limbaugh in any other country (especially a non-English speaking one), and suddenly you have a 60 year old man who can’t do shit. His status and success is completely dependent on the desire that some American “moochers” and “looters” have to listen to him. A “Galt’s Gulch” full of Limbaughs would starve.

665 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:15:37pm

re: #660 theheat

On CNN, with video, the farmer was describing how this couldn’t possibly be a coyote, or any animal he’d ever seen. He called it a chupacabra.

Coyote. With mange. End of story.

Nobody gets famous and featured in a magazine by finding the body of a mangy coyote.

666 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:16:06pm

re: #660 theheat

On CNN, with video, the farmer was describing how this couldn’t possibly be a coyote, or any animal he’d ever seen. He called it a chupacabra.

Coyote. With mange. End of story.

Heat… I think both Steve and myself are fully aware of implications fo the existence of a chupracabra or a bigfoot… we were both goofing on each other… having fun… humor… am I getting through to you… knock… knock… knock… anyone in there?

667 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:16:12pm

re: #645 freetoken

A slight glimmer of sanity, perhaps?

Just a call-back to an earlier post regarding that billboard’s slogan:

RADICAL LEADERS PREY ON THE FEARFUL & NAIVE

668 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:16:26pm

re: #660 theheat

On CNN, with video, the farmer was describing how this couldn’t possibly be a coyote, or any animal he’d ever seen. He called it a chupacabra.

Coyote. With mange. End of story.

well that’s no fun

669 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:16:33pm

re: #664 Nimed

A talk-radio host like Limbaugh neatly exemplifies one of the many Randian fallacies — that people have some intrinsic worth rewarded by the market but largely independent of society. Put Limbaugh in any other country (especially a non-English speaking one), and suddenly you have a 60 year old man who can’t do shit. His status and success is completely dependent on the desire that some American “moochers” and “looters” have to listen to him. A “Galt’s Gulch” full of Limbaughs would starve.

I can just see him walking around with a little basket, harvesting oxycontin in the wild…

670 AlexRogan  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:17:40pm

re: #667 Slumbering Behemoth

A slight glimmer of sanity, perhaps?

Just a call-back to an earlier post regarding that billboard’s slogan:

RADICAL LEADERS PREY ON THE FEARFUL & NAIVE

The irony of the statement is lost on the Tea Partiers, ain’t it?

/pot, meet kettle…

671 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:17:45pm

re: #666 Walter L. Newton

Six Six Six! Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Na-na-na-na-naaa… Walter is the anti-christ.

okay, that was juvenile…I do hope you enjoyed it.

672 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:17:52pm

re: #627 Killgore Trout

They though I was Charles for a while but I haven’t seen that one for wuite some time. Usually when someone devotes a blog to me I tend to read it out of narcissistic impulse. This one seems too stupid to bother with. They can’t even manage a legible screenshot of my comments which they are misinterpreting. I wrote that crap and even I don’t know what they’re talking about.

You need better groupies.

673 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:17:57pm

re: #666 Walter L. Newton

They guys who perpetrated the last bigfoot hoax, with hunks of meat and hair in a freezer, at least showed some initiative. I’ll give them that.

674 aurelius  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:18:01pm

re: #669 JasonA

I can just see him walking around with a little basket, harvesting oxycontin in the wild…

lmfao… waddling a bit b/c of the anal warts too

675 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:18:02pm

re: #667 Slumbering Behemoth

A slight glimmer of sanity, perhaps?

Just a call-back to an earlier post regarding that billboard’s slogan:

RADICAL LEADERS PREY ON THE FEARFUL & NAIVE

That’s the DEATH PANEL Facebook post? I only opened the page. Not going to read the Quitter’s ghostwritten crapola.

She’s the President of FarmVille ya know!

676 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:18:56pm

re: #673 theheat

They guys who perpetrated the last bigfoot hoax, with hunks of meat and hair in a freezer, at least showed some initiative. I’ll give them that.

I was BUMMED it was fake. /fool

677 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:19:09pm

I’m going to bed… got to walk the fence first… last week, out on the east side of the property, I found the Lock Ness Monster having sex with Brittney Spears… I didn’t know Brittney Spears really existed… scary.

678 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:19:40pm

re: #666 Walter L. Newton

Hello?…McFly?…*knock* *knock* *knock*…anybody home?!

679 darthstar  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:19:45pm

re: #677 Walter L. Newton

I’m going to bed… got to walk the fence first… last week, out on the east side of the property, I found the Lock Ness Monster having sex with Brittney Spears… I didn’t know Brittney Spears really existed… scary.

Good night, dark lord.

680 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:19:52pm

re: #677 Walter L. Newton

Call CNN and get your 15 minutes ;-)

681 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:20:01pm

I’ve been told to haul ass to bed too.

682 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:20:11pm

re: #671 darthstar

Six Six Six! Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Walter is the anti-christ. Na-na-na-na-naaa… Walter is the anti-christ.

okay, that was juvenile…I do hope you enjoyed it.

You’re dead sucker… you’re fucking dead… you got that :)

683 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:20:25pm

re: #668 albusteve

well that’s no fun

I agree. People need monsters to exist so they don’t start seeing their neighbors as monsters.

684 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:21:03pm

re: #682 Walter L. Newton

You’re dead sucker… you’re fucking dead… you got that :)

That would have been better without a smiley face.

685 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:21:23pm

re: #672 Nimed

You need better groupies.

Maybe he does, but he can’t have Summer. She’s spoken for.

686 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:21:37pm

re: #683 Cato the Elder

I agree. People need monsters to exist so they don’t start seeing their neighbors as monsters.

Didn’t work out so well in “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street…”

687 albusteve  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:21:49pm

re: #683 Cato the Elder

I agree. People need monsters to exist so they don’t start seeing their neighbors as monsters.

or their tenants

688 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:22:07pm

re: #646 Walter L. Newton

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really chupacabra’s?

Chupa-thingy!

689 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:22:25pm

re: #652 Walter L. Newton

Wait… wait… you mean they’re not really Big Foot’s?

God, I died :D

690 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:22:26pm

re: #685 Cato the Elder

Maybe he does, but he can’t have Summer. She’s spoken for.

I thought you had moved onto Curious Lurker. You don’t get to have more than one, you know.

691 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:22:45pm

re: #682 Walter L. Newton

You’re dead sucker… you’re fucking dead… you got that :)

if you want me to clean it this time I want to see some cash up front…

692 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:23:04pm

re: #684 Mr Pancakes

That would have been better without a smiley face.

I know… but people around here have been really touchy lately… nuance seems to go out the window in the heat of the summer or something… I didn’t want to leave the thread leaving anyone with the wrong idea… hell… I do a good job of that when I’m active on the thread…

night really now

693 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:23:10pm

re: #660 theheat

On CNN, with video, the farmer was describing how this couldn’t possibly be a coyote, or any animal he’d ever seen. He called it a chupacabra.

Coyote. With mange. End of story.

Some of the kids I teach are completely fascinated by the chupacabra.

694 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:23:46pm

re: #662 Alouette

I have pictures of my kids and grandkids (Zionist Overlords of the Future)

Well, OK, but if we put up pictures of your grandkids, all the other bubbes will want to put theirs up too.

695 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:24:09pm

re: #692 Walter L. Newton

I know… but people around here have been really touchy lately… nuance seems to go out the window in the heat of the summer or something… I didn’t want to leave the thread leaving anyone with the wrong idea… hell… I do a good job of that when I’m active on the thread…

night really now

No kiddin’ man…….

Goodnight Walter

696 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:24:28pm

re: #676 Stanley Sea

I live in bigfoot country, actually. Every few years someone claims to see one, then a rash of sightings follows. We’re always hopeful, but nothing ever comes of it. No DNA, no video, no turds… nada. Plaster casts of footprints don’t do it for me any more.

697 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:25:05pm

re: #690 JasonA

I thought you had moved onto Curious Lurker. You don’t get to have more than one, you know.

What part of the plural word “groupies” do you not understand?

698 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:25:48pm

re: #692 Walter L. Newton

Yeah its totally not you at all!

(kidding!)

On a real note, about halfway done with The Cloud of Unknowing.

Its a hell of a book, regardless of your religious persuasion.

699 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:25:57pm

re: #698 windsagio

Review once I finish it!

700 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:26:51pm

re: #697 Cato the Elder

Hi Cato,

How are you doing?
*waves*

701 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:26:56pm

re: #697 Cato the Elder

What part of the plural word “groupies” do you not understand?

Ah. But they have to be exclusive? Spread the wealth, man. :)

702 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:27:49pm

re: #698 windsagio

Yeah its totally not you at all!

(kidding!)

On a real note, about halfway done with The Cloud of Unknowing.

Its a hell of a book, regardless of your religious persuasion.

Sounds…
Yawn…

:P

703 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:27:50pm

anyways, poof for work.

Y’all keep your noses clean!

704 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:27:51pm

re: #694 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, OK, but if we put up pictures of your grandkids, all the other bubbes will want to put theirs up too.

Well that’s OK, I have more.

705 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:28:12pm

re: #677 Walter L. Newton

I’m going to bed… got to walk the fence first… last week, out on the east side of the property, I found the Lock Ness Monster having sex with Brittney Spears… I didn’t know Brittney Spears really existed… scary.

George Clooney tells a hilarious story about getting back to his house in the LA canyons late one night, somewhat drunk, and finding hovering helicopters. Somehow he develops this theory that there’s an escaped convict on the loose, and that the convict might have kidnapped his assistant, who sometimes spends the night in a cottage on the property, so he calls her and tries to give her code words to use if the maniac has taken her hostage.

Eventually he learns that Britney Spears, who he didn’t know lived down the road from him, has done something new, and the paparazzi are going nuts.

706 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:28:28pm

re: #693 SanFranciscoZionist

On my way home the other night, and it was really late, some teenage girls were pretending to be zombies off to the side of a desolate intersection out here in the sticks. Being a horror movie nut, I laughed so hard I was nearly in tears. Had to give them the thumbs up and honk. For all I know, I may have been the only passer by that appreciated their efforts.

Or I escaped certain death from a mutant teenage zombie horde. That’s the other possibility.

707 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:28:33pm

re: #683 Cato the Elder

I agree. People need monsters to exist so they don’t start seeing their neighbors as monsters.

So true

708 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:28:44pm

re: #698 windsagio

On a real note, about halfway done with The Cloud of Unknowing.

Its a hell of a book, regardless of your religious persuasion.

That is one of my favorite books, and not necessarily one I would picture you reading.

709 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:29:13pm

re: #702 Varek Raith

lol the wiki doesn’t do it justice. In a weird way it links up Christianity well with eastern religions without (as far as I can tell) any actual influence coming in.

I don’t particularly agree with the guy (so far), but his POV is amazing to look at.

710 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:29:21pm

re: #670 talon_262

The irony of the statement is lost on the Tea Partiers, ain’t it?

/pot, meet kettle…

That crowd is irony deficient. They have irony-poor blood. If the God of Irony were get up in there faces and be all, um, ironic and stuff, they still wouldn’t catch on.

Yet what perplexes me the most about that crowd as a whole is that the Neo-Teahadis refuse to acknowledge that the movement was born as a 9/11 trooferism/pro-Ron Paul movement, while the Paleo-Teahadis insist that the movement is being corrupted by the newcomers.

711 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:29:40pm

re: #708 Cato the Elder

He Cato, you getting walloped with rain storms?

712 windsagio  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:29:43pm

re: #708 Cato the Elder

Would discuss it more, but I’ve really got to go!

Once I finish it we can have a talk :D

713 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:30:01pm

re: #711 Varek Raith

Hey Cato, you getting walloped with rain storms?


Fail, I do.

714 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:30:19pm

re: #681 b_sharp

I’ve been told to haul ass to bed too.

Well, that’s gonna require at least two trips, so you better get started on it now.

715 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:30:47pm

re: #692 Walter L. Newton

I know… but people around here have been really touchy lately… nuance seems to go out the window in the heat of the summer or something… I didn’t want to leave the thread leaving anyone with the wrong idea… hell… I do a good job of that when I’m active on the thread…

night really now

A smiley face to me is NEVER a bad thing. Clarity is bliss.

716 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:31:24pm

re: #696 theheat

I live in bigfoot country, actually. Every few years someone claims to see one, then a rash of sightings follows. We’re always hopeful, but nothing ever comes of it. No DNA, no video, no turds… nada. Plaster casts of footprints don’t do it for me any more.

BS, bigfoot country… Mr. Foot (thank you) is doing quite well in NYC. He has section 8 housing w/HEAP, food stamps, Medicaid (his tests do come back a bit funny) and an income support allowance. His biggest problem is his satellite TV don’t pick up the nature channel so good, but he is dealing with it/

717 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:31:58pm

On another note… please tell me that’s it for the Mel Gibson tapes.

718 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:33:10pm

re: #677 Walter L. Newton

I’m going to bed… got to walk the fence first… last week, out on the east side of the property, I found the Lock Ness Monster having sex with Brittney Spears… I didn’t know Brittney Spears really existed… scary.

Dude! You told me that you would keep that in confidence. You’re such an asshole.

719 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:33:19pm

Dammit.
I hate having to adjust to new OSes.
Though, Windoze 7 is better than Vista.

720 Mr Pancakes  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:33:49pm

re: #715 Stanley Sea

A smiley face to me is NEVER a bad thing. Clarity is bliss.

I think smiley faces have their place Stanley…. but that was a classic post that didn’t need one……. kinda like Cato not using sarc tags.

721 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:34:53pm

re: #711 Varek Raith

He Cato, you getting walloped with rain storms?

And Big Thunder. Which in Baltimore means I could lose power any second.

It’s nice though. We’ve been dry for weeks.

722 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:36:10pm

re: #721 Cato the Elder

And Big Thunder. Which in Baltimore means I could lose power any second.

It’s nice though. We’ve been dry for weeks.

We had a little flash-flooding today with all the rain that came down this afternoon. It was still worth it, though.

723 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:36:40pm

re: #721 Cato the Elder

And Big Thunder. Which in Baltimore means I could lose power any second.

It’s nice though. We’ve been dry for weeks.

Same here, just south of DC.
I’m on sump pump patrol all night.
House floods real quick.
Wheee!

724 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:37:06pm

re: #696 theheat

I live in bigfoot country, actually. Every few years someone claims to see one, then a rash of sightings follows. We’re always hopeful, but nothing ever comes of it. No DNA, no video, no turds… nada. Plaster casts of footprints don’t do it for me any more.

LOL. Show me the body.

725 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:38:00pm

re: #708 Cato the Elder

Have you read “The invention of clouds” by Richard Hamblyn?
www.amazon.com

Lighter than what appears to be your usual fare, but I think you would enjoy it.

726 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:38:06pm

re: #717 JasonA

Doubtful. radaronline is doling them out, little by little. I assume at some point Mel’s lawyers will block them, seize them, or somehow prohibit them from being posted online.

But the source of the subject material, Mel himself, is a bounty of crazy. A living breathing fountain of mental illness and seething hostility. If it was Mel TV 24/7, there wouldn’t be a shortage of new material. Like, ever.

727 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:38:10pm

re: #701 JasonA

Ah. But they have to be exclusive? Spread the wealth, man. :)

This might end badly if CL or Summer show up, so I just wanna tell you guys that I will totally stab you in the back.

728 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:39:31pm

re: #726 theheat

Doubtful. radaronline is doling them out, little by little. I assume at some point Mel’s lawyers will block them, seize them, or somehow prohibit them from being posted online.

But the source of the subject material, Mel himself, is a bounty of crazy. A living breathing fountain of mental illness and seething hostility. If it was Mel TV 24/7, there wouldn’t be a shortage of new material. Like, ever.

It can’t get worse… can it?

729 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:39:55pm

re: #683 Cato the Elder

I agree. People need monsters to exist so they don’t start seeing their neighbors as monsters.

Call it the Maple Street Effect.

730 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:40:14pm

re: #660 theheat

On CNN, with video, the farmer was describing how this couldn’t possibly be a coyote, or any animal he’d ever seen. He called it a chupacabra.

Coyote. With mange. End of story.

That’s much rarer up here. Partially that’s because a coyote which cannot grow out its fur won’t survive a Chicago winter. Those coyotes we do have also have longer coats, again to deal with the winters.

731 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:40:33pm

re: #727 Nimed

This might end badly if CL or Summer show up, so I just wanna tell you guys that I will totally stab you in the back.

Bros before… yeah, I don’t have the balls to finish that sentence.

732 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:40:55pm

re: #724 Stanley Sea

LOL. Show me the body.

/Mr. Foot is deeply insulted by your speciesest comment and obvious discriminatory attitude(s). Mr. Foot is however willing to settle out of court.

733 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:42:09pm

re: #725 Floral Giraffe

Have you read “The invention of clouds” by Richard Hamblyn?
[Link: www.amazon.com…]

Lighter than what appears to be your usual fare, but I think you would enjoy it.

Hey, you’re talking to a guy who’s currently putting off watching “The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo” in favor of old shoot-‘em-ups and silly comedies.

That looks like an excellent read. And I like weather. I learned the differences between cirrus, nimbus, cumulus and stratus when I was like, five.

734 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:42:32pm

re: #728 JasonA

Sure it could. He could actually hurt someone. If he hurts himself, so what, but crazy people making multiple enraged threats usually hurt someone else before they take themselves out. And if we are to believe what’s on tape, he’s already physically hurt someone. It’s already happened. Who’s to say it won’t happen again, or worse?

735 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:43:05pm

re: #174 windsagio

Bad nerd, me. I don’t even konw what ‘samara’ is.

Sorry for the late reply, didn’t catch your comment the first time around.

But of course you do! It’s the girl from “The Ring”!

736 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:43:07pm

re: #734 theheat

Sure it could. He could actually hurt someone. If he hurts himself, so what, but crazy people making multiple enraged threats usually hurt someone else before they take themselves out. And if we are to believe what’s on tape, he’s already physically hurt someone. It’s already happened. Who’s to say it won’t happen again, or worse?

Oh, I was just talking about the tapes and wondering how they could get any worse.

737 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:43:25pm

re: #701 JasonA

Ah. But they have to be exclusive? Spread the wealth, man. :)

What do you take me for? Some kinda commie?

738 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:44:18pm

re: #728 JasonA

It can’t get worse… can it?


Wetback was today’s newest slur.

I’m probably behind though

739 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:44:56pm

re: #737 Cato the Elder

What do you take me for? Some kinda commie?

You’re not a Totalitarian Progressive like everyone else here?

/

740 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:46:40pm

re: #739 JasonA

You’re not a Totalitarian Progressive like everyone else here?

/


to be fair that is only half the folks…

741 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:46:49pm

re: #738 Stanley Sea

Wetback was today’s newest slur.

I’m probably behind though

I really hope Gibson get’s charged with something. He needs help, badly.

742 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:46:50pm

re: #733 Cato the Elder

It’s a cool story. I think you would like it.

743 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:48:26pm

re: #736 JasonA

Oh, that. Well, the asshole ain’t much for stamina, judging by his frequent timeouts to catch his breath. You’d think he was like the big bad wolf, gonna huff and puff and blow her house down. We may have heard the worst. He may have been all tuckered out, and those were the real gems.

He’ll need more conditioning to sustain that level of creepiness for future hate rants. Situps, LifeCycle, maybe some running.

744 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:48:36pm

re: #739 JasonA

You’re not a Totalitarian Progressive like everyone else here?

/

There’s a wonderful novel about life in Poland in the 1980s, where the young woman figures out her boyfriend is a state agent infiltrating her anti-government group when he casually refers to himself as a ‘rightist reactionary’.

745 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:48:43pm

re: #521 prairiefire

The big dipper has just been found.

In my pants.

746 Racer X  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:48:55pm

I ran into Mel Gibson today in Malibu. No really, I ran into him. He was walking on the side of the street, and I just floored it.

747 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:48:58pm

re: #741 Dark_Falcon

I really hope Gibson get’s charged with something. He needs help, badly.

if a-hole was a crime we would all be trading in ciggarates

748 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:49:02pm

re: #740 brookly red

to be fair that is only half the folks…

The rest of us are “Argentine Radicals” or “Totalitarian Fascists”. I read it on the net, so I’m sure it’s true.

/must I?

749 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:51:02pm

You guys sound like my dad and brothers. My family function is “straight man.”

750 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:51:27pm

Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki puts ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed’ cartoonist Molly Norris on execution hitlist

A CHARISMATIC terror leader linked to the botched Times Square car bomb has placed the Seattle cartoonist who launched “Everybody Draw Muhammed Day” on an execution hit list.

Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki - the radical who has also been cited as inspiring the Fort Hood, Tex., massacre and the plot by two New Jersey men to kill U.S. soldiers - singled out artist Molly Norris as a “prime target,” saying her “proper abode is hellfire.”

FBI officials have notified Norris and warned her they consider it a “very serious threat.”

751 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:51:41pm

re: #746 Racer X

I ran into Mel Gibson today in Malibu. No really, I ran into him. He was walking on the side of the street, and I just floored it.

He was prowling the streets, protecting provocatively dressed white women from roving packs of .

/

752 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:52:11pm
753 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:52:49pm

re: #745 Fozzie Bear

In my pants.

Nice entrance.

754 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:53:26pm

You should see the exit.

755 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:54:18pm

re: #754 Fozzie Bear

You should see the exit.

we are waiting…

756 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:54:44pm

re: #750 Slumbering Behemoth

Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki puts ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed’ cartoonist Molly Norris on execution hitlist

And I say that Mr. Alawlaki is the one in need of Hellfire. Preferably right into his car window. Eat ATGMs, Terror-boy!

757 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:54:55pm

re: #745 Fozzie Bear

In my pants.

In your dreams, maybe?
LOL!

758 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:55:33pm

re: #754 Fozzie Bear

You should see the exit.

My favorite line for an attractive lady who’s making her exit? “I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave!” You could get a smile, or you could get a slap. No guarantees.

759 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:56:11pm

re: #745 Fozzie Bear

In my pants.

/in bed.

760 Nimed  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:56:24pm

re: #757 Floral Giraffe

In your dreams, maybe?
LOL!

Ouch! I hear the sound of a balloon deflating…

761 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:56:39pm

re: #750 Slumbering Behemoth

FBI officials have notified Norris and warned her they consider it a “very serious threat.”

Which means exactly what - are they protecting her, or just gave her a courtesy warning?

762 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:56:59pm

re: #760 Nimed

Ouch! I hear the sound of a balloon deflating…

That’s not a balloon.

763 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:57:17pm

re: #758 JasonA

My favorite line for an attractive lady who’s making her exit? “I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave!” You could get a smile, or you could get a slap. No guarantees.

more than likely she just gave you the bill…

764 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:57:58pm

re: #751 JasonA

He was prowling the streets, protecting provocatively dressed white women from roving packs of …/

Plastic surgeons, armed with a truckload of free breast implants.

765 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:58:19pm

re: #758 JasonA

My favorite line for an attractive lady who’s making her exit? “I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave!” You could get a smile, or you could get a slap. No guarantees.

Very good line.
Do you get slapped more than 1/2 the time?
Curious..

766 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:59:19pm

re: #764 theheat

Plastic surgeons, armed with a truckload of free breast implants.

/if you think that is going to make me buy into Obama care think again…

767 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 9:59:38pm

“Are those space pants you’re wearing? …’cause your ass is out of this world.”

Best lame pickup line ever.

768 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:00:09pm

re: #765 Floral Giraffe

Very good line.
Do you get slapped more than 1/2 the time?
Curious..

Nooo. I don’t get slapped. I pay attention and know my audience when it comes to such jokes.

769 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:00:21pm

re: #752 Cato the Elder

I do hope Miss Norris does not have to suffer attacks from murderous, Dark Age minded theocrats simply for exercising her freedom of expression through art here in the U.S. That would suck donkey balls.

770 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:00:26pm

So, last night Haku got me a date without even being there.

Went down to the local 7-Eleven in the rain and left Haku at home, because he hates the rain.

I’m standing in the back of the line checkin’ out this lady, and the woman behind the counter starts asking me where my baby is. The lady I’m checkin’ out is feeling all conversational, so she asks, what baby is that? And the checkout woman does all the work for me, telling the curious lady all about Haku and how utterly irresistible he is.

End (and beginning) of story: I have a dog-walking date with Joanna tomorrow.

Arf!

771 Racer X  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:00:53pm
772 Four More Tears  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:02:10pm

re: #770 Cato the Elder

End (and beginning) of story: I have a dog-walking date with Joanna tomorrow.

Arf!

Assuming it doesn’t rain. :)

773 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:03:00pm

What kind of dog is Haku?

774 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:03:16pm

re: #770 Cato the Elder

So, last night Haku got me a date without even being there.

Went down to the local 7-Eleven in the rain and left Haku at home, because he hates the rain.

I’m standing in the back of the line checkin’ out this lady, and the woman behind the counter starts asking me where my baby is. The lady I’m checkin’ out is feeling all conversational, so she asks, what baby is that? And the checkout woman does all the work for me, telling the curious lady all about Haku and how utterly irresistible he is.

End (and beginning) of story: I have a dog-walking date with Joanna tomorrow.

Arf!

Congrats, Cato. Enjoy!

775 Racer X  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:03:46pm

Ouch!

Image: x7g8D.jpg

I mean, sonofabitch ouch!

776 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:04:48pm

re: #761 theheat

Which means exactly what - are they protecting her, or just gave her a courtesy warning?

From the article:

Norris’ neighbor said yesterday he’s noticed an increased police presence on the street lined with modest Craftsman-style homes. No one answered the door at her home, where a blue baby swing hung from a tree outside.

Also from the article:

David Gomez, the FBI’s assistant special agent in charge of counterterrorism in Seattle, said Norris and others were warned of the “very serious threat.”

“We understand the absolute seriousness of a threat from an Al Qaeda-inspired magazine and are attempting to do everything in our power to assist the individuals on that list to effectively protect themselves and change their behavior to make themselves less of a target,” Gomez said.

I find the notion expressed in the part I bolded there a bit disturbing.

777 brookly red  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:04:56pm

well good night good folks.

778 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:05:49pm

Anyone see this Palin tweet?

It fits with the thread-


I’m busy today so notify me asap when NAACP renders verdict: are liberty-loving, equality-respecting patriots racist?Bated breath,waiting…

I just can’t comment on the tweet itself.

I think this lady found her way via McCain from nowheresville to being a front runner in the GOP. I am disgusted.

All I can say is, in my opinion, the moment she had those people screaming epithets at her McCain rallies (and carrying the Curious George stuffed monkeys) she realized, yes, THIS is my ticket.

779 Racer X  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:06:22pm
780 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:08:15pm

re: #751 JasonA

He was prowling the streets, protecting provocatively dressed white women from roving packs of .

/

I’d really like to see Mel snubbed at public events by his peers. Just the simple, old-fashioned, “I do not recognize that you’re standing there” routine. If nothing else, the ‘pack of African-American individuals’ line should put him outside the bounds of whatever passes for polite society these days.

781 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:08:51pm

re: #776 Slumbering Behemoth

The whole thing is disturbing, and smells a bit apathetic. Then again, I’ve dealt with some of those fine Seattle-area FBI peeps, and they reminded me of Keystone cops. The stupidity was epic.

782 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:09:50pm

re: #780 SanFranciscoZionist

Unfortunately “what passes for polite society these days” does NOT include Hollywood, or it’s inhabitants. Bunch of overpaid, screaming icky people, for the most part, they are.

783 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:10:00pm

re: #758 JasonA

My favorite line for an attractive lady who’s making her exit? “I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave!” You could get a smile, or you could get a slap. No guarantees.

A friend of mine used to date a gentleman who had a way with the ladies. He once asked if I wanted a refill on my drink. I said “I’m fine.”

He said, “I know you’re fine, girl, what I asked is, do you want another glass of wine?”

He got the smile.

784 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:10:24pm

re: #761 theheat

Which means exactly what - are they protecting her, or just gave her a courtesy warning?

They may not want to publicize that.

785 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:11:45pm

re: #780 SanFranciscoZionist

I also see him as spending a lot of quality time masturbating, because I can’t believe any female familiar with his rants would find any part of him attractive.

Have you seen him lately? It’s like all the blackness inside him has come out in his pores. He’s a living portrait of Dorian Gray.

786 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:12:01pm

re: #781 theheat

It stinks of “Bitch, you shouldn’t been wearing them kinda clothes in the first place” logic.

787 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:13:24pm

re: #773 Fozzie Bear

What kind of dog is Haku?

Read all about him here and here.

788 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:13:28pm

re: #786 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s my take, too. Moreso, because I have some familiarity with he local organization. I hope we’re wrong, and they’re keeping a watchful eye on her, but on the down-lo.

789 prairiefire  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:14:04pm

re: #785 theheat

Yep, and out of his plugs.

790 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:14:14pm

re: #779 Racer X

Stay on target!

791 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:14:51pm

If I found that some backwards cleric had ordered my death for asking people to draw pictures of a guy who has been dead for centuries, I think there would be only one thing to do: Publish a book of unflattering drawings of the guy. I would make it my life’s work.

792 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:15:30pm

re: #787 Cato the Elder

Read all about him here and here.

Your dog is absolutely adorable. He has a sort of nobility about him.

793 Stanley Sea  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:16:47pm

re: #785 theheat

I also see him as spending a lot of quality time masturbating, because I can’t believe any female familiar with his rants would find any part of him attractive.

Have you seen him lately? It’s like all the blackness inside him has come out in his pores. He’s a living portrait of Dorian Gray.

With money and “power”

otherwise, poison

794 Racer X  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:17:13pm
795 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:18:09pm

re: #792 Fozzie Bear

Your dog is absolutely adorable. He has a sort of nobility about him.

You should see the gentle way he takes candy from babies!

796 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:20:06pm

re: #795 Cato the Elder

That’s a really touching story about how you saved him. You have a devoted friend for life. He sounds like an incredible dog.

797 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:21:03pm

re: #778 Stanley Sea

Anyone see this Palin tweet?

I am Sarah’s inflamed sense of rejection.

798 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:21:26pm

I spent the afternoon over at my sister’s house. She has a Goffin’s cockatoo who is simultaneously the most entertaining and interactive animal I have ever met, and the most unabashedly destructive.

He pulled all the grommets out of my shoes in about 3.5 seconds, and yet, I want to steal him.

I’ll have to get some pictures of this animal next time I visit her. Some day I will get myself a Goffin’s. Not until I have kids to will it to, though, lol.

799 Fozzie Bear  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:22:08pm

And a sizeable shoe budget.

800 theheat  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:23:24pm

Speaking of dogs, I saw a commercial for a new TV show called Terriers. It showed some obnoxious terrier acting like a terrier, but nothing else. So, I’m thinking, cool!

Turns out it’ll be some slacker turned private eye show. You can’t imagine my disappointment. I really thought my dog had a shot at fame and fortune for being an obnoxious terrier. Sigh.

801 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:25:11pm

re: #785 theheat

I also see him as spending a lot of quality time masturbating, because I can’t believe any female familiar with his rants would find any part of him attractive.

Have you seen him lately? It’s like all the blackness inside him has come out in his pores. He’s a living portrait of Dorian Gray.

And its like the ending of the book, moreover. All the evil that had been concealed is coming out. Gibson’s career will end up as dead as the ugly corpse of Dorian Grey.

802 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:25:14pm

re: #788 theheat

I’m a “No Quarter” kind of mother-fucker when it comes to dealing with oppressive theocrats. However, re-reading this:

“We understand the absolute seriousness of a threat from an Al Qaeda-inspired magazine and are attempting to do everything in our power to assist the individuals on that list to effectively protect themselves and change their behavior to make themselves less of a target,” Gomez said.

… the “change their behavior” part could mean changing their daily habits or routines in an effort to be more secure. Like watching one’s back, taking different routes home from work, paying much closer attention to those paying close attention to you, and so on.

However, if that is intended to mean changing one’s behavior with regard to freely expressing their opinions here in the States, through art or any other means, then it is a disturbing sentiment.

803 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:27:21pm
804 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:27:26pm

re: #798 Fozzie Bear

805 palomino  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:27:46pm

re: #419 Spare O’Lake

We been there, done that.

Really? You don’t think, a la Code Pink, that we’ll be hearing more about NBPP in the future?

NBPP is a nothing movement, but hyperpartisans and teabag defenders (eg, Limbaugh, Malkin, Breitbart) will grasp at anything to make the equivalency argument.

806 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:28:03pm

re: #801 Dark_Falcon

Hey, is the new job working out OK?
I hope so!

807 aurelius  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:34:31pm

disgusting….

re: #778 Stanley Sea

Anyone see this Palin tweet?

It fits with the thread-


I just can’t comment on the tweet itself.

I think this lady found her way via McCain from nowheresville to being a front runner in the GOP. I am disgusted.

All I can say is, in my opinion, the moment she had those people screaming epithets at her McCain rallies (and carrying the Curious George stuffed monkeys) she realized, yes, THIS is my ticket.

808 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:37:43pm

re: #785 theheat

I also see him as spending a lot of quality time masturbating, because I can’t believe any female familiar with his rants would find any part of him attractive.

Have you seen him lately? It’s like all the blackness inside him has come out in his pores. He’s a living portrait of Dorian Gray.


Did he choose poorly? :D

809 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:38:30pm

re: #806 Floral Giraffe

Hey, is the new job working out OK?
I hope so!

It’s going better this week. Today was a good day. But now I have to get to bed. Goodnight, All.

810 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:39:26pm

re: #764 theheat

Plastic surgeons, armed with a truckload of free breast implants.

EAST BOUND AND DOWN LOADED UP AND TRUCKIN’

WE GONNA DO WHAT THEY SAY CAN’T BE DONE

WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO AND A SHORT TIME TO GET THERE

EAST BOUNF, WATCH OLD BANDIT RUN

811 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:42:44pm

re: #780 SanFranciscoZionist

I’d really like to see Mel snubbed at public events by his peers. Just the simple, old-fashioned, “I do not recognize that you’re standing there” routine. If nothing else, the ‘pack of African-American individuals’ line should put him outside the bounds of whatever passes for polite society these days.

Sorta like the penultimate scene in “Les Liaisons Dangereuses”, where the Marquise shows up at the opera and gets booed out of the house?

812 Why I Never!  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:47:39pm

re: #803 goddamnedfrank

I am John’s raging bile duct.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

813 ryannon  Tue, Jul 13, 2010 10:50:48pm

re: #724 Stanley Sea

LOL. Show me the body.

Remember her?

814 rwdflynavy  Wed, Jul 14, 2010 3:03:33am

re: #810 WindUpBird

EAST BOUND AND DOWN LOADED UP AND TRUCKIN’

WE GONNA DO WHAT THEY SAY CAN’T BE DONE

WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO AND A SHORT TIME TO GET THERE

EAST BOUNF, WATCH OLD BANDIT RUN

My Mom’s favorite movie. When I got her to watch “Raising Arizona”, she said: “I don’t care for movies where people break the law”. ?!?!?!?!?!!??
//

815 RogueOne  Wed, Jul 14, 2010 4:01:33am

re: #372 Cato the Elder

You’re not a real Lizard until you’ve had at least one timeout.

I got mine on my first day! Stupid balloon boy.


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