Quran Burning Pastor Learned Everything He Knows About Muslims from YouTube

CBS News has quotes from a deposition in which Pastor Terry Jones of the loony Dove World Outreach Center unapologetically states that he learned everything he needs to know about sharia law from YouTube videos.

A deposition obtained by CBS News from a court case last month raises question about how much Pastor Jones even knows about his controversial cause.

According to the deposition, Jones and his wife learned much of what they know about Sharia Law - the sacred law of the Muslim religion - by watching videos on YouTube.

“Do you know where Sharia law came from?” Jones is asked.

“Not really, no,” he replies, “I think there’s experts that say it came from the old Mosaic law. But no.”

Attorneys also asked Jones how many Muslims he knows personally.

“I don’t think I know any personally,” he says, “I haven’t interviewed any.” Jones also says he has not attended any interfaith discussions and that he believes that such discussions are part of “our problem.”

UPDATE at 9/8/10 2:57:03 pm:

Spiegel Online has some information on Terry Jones’s evangelical church in Cologne, Germany, from which he was expelled in 2009: Terry Jones Accused of ‘Spiritual Abuse’ at Cologne Church.

Various witnesses gave SPIEGEL ONLINE consistent accounts of the Jones’ behavior. The pastor and his wife apparently regarded themselves as having been appointed by God, meaning opposition was a crime against the Lord. Terry and Sylvia Jones allegedly used these methods to ask for money in an increasingly insistent manner, as well as making members of the congregation carry out work.

Andrew Schäfer, a Protestant Church official responsible for monitoring sects in the region where Cologne is located, confirmed the accounts. “Terry Jones is a fundamentalist,” he told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

Both major churches in Germany have “sect commissioners” who monitor the activities of religious groups, sects and cults. Although they are obviously not totally impartial, the officials’ findings are usually considered to be trustworthy.

Former church members are still undergoing therapy as a result of “spiritual abuse,” Schäfer said. According to Schäfer, Jones urged church members to beat their children with a rod and also taught “a distinctive demonology” and conducted brainwashing.

“Terry Jones appears to have a delusional personality,” speculates Schäfer. When he came to Germany in the 1980s, Jones apparently considered Cologne “a city of Hell that was founded by Nero’s mother,” while he thought Germany was “a key country for the supposed Christian revival of Europe,” Schäfer says.

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691 comments

1 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:47:30pm

This “Reverend” is no man of God in my eyes. Just an angry ignorant guy with a pulpit and gullible attendees.

2 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:48:03pm

Did he also learn to embezzle Church funds and coerce parishioner into selling their belonging and working for him on YouTube?

In an interview last year with the Gainesville Sun Emma Jones claimed that her father left after church members questioned his frequent dips into the church kitty for personal luxuries and salaries for his eBay business. She called the church a “cult,” saying parishioners were persuaded to give up their belongings and work for his business, TS and Company.

Jones brought his anti-Islamic views and eBay business with him to the small charismatic mother church in Gainesville. Since taking over in 2008, he’s stored his merchandise of used furniture in a church building and listed the business’ home address there on state corporate filings. He also wasted little time initiating controversial evangelical campaigns.

3 elbruce  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:48:20pm

Let’s get this out of the way real quick…

[Link: www.theonion.com…]

4 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:48:22pm

This is what one gets when ignorance and arrogance proudly meet to justify hatred.

Welcome to the face of the right in America.

5 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:49:28pm

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

i couldn’t agree more. The “Reverend” needs to look in a mirror if he wants to know where the real problem lies.

6 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:50:09pm

re: #5 Dreggas

i couldn’t agree more. The “Reverend” needs to look in a mirror if he wants to know where the real problem lies.

His moustache?
/

7 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:50:31pm

I was just starting to suspect he may have been influence by Eurofascists during his time in Germany…
Terry Jones Accused of ‘Spiritual Abuse’ at Cologne Church

8 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:51:25pm

‘cause everybody knows YouTube is the repository for all of the world’s knowledge!

9 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:51:43pm

Gosh there are so many things wrong with this guy I don’t even know where to begin.
He says he learned all he knows about Islam from YouTube. YouTube the same site I go to where I go if I want to see people having nasty collisions is where he goes to learn about another religion.
He says he doesn’t know any Muslims personally. Yet he feels he can judge the world’s Muslim population.
And finally he doesn’t feel interfaith dialogues are a good thing. I don’t even know where to begin with this but all these statements show to me that he’s a bigot who would be just fine and dandy if we had religious law based off his religious beliefs.

10 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:52:08pm

All those scholars of Islam learned about the religion the hard- decades of study.

What a bunch of tools!
/

11 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:52:30pm

The crazy people seemed to have snuck in to this world while I was living.

12 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:52:50pm

All I can say is I for one am praying for rain on the book burning day, all day. Heck a small flood right there would be great.

re: #8 reine.de.tout

Hello from SoCal Reine de tout, how are you and the Roi?

13 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:54:05pm
According to the deposition, Jones and his wife learned much of what they know about Sharia Law - the sacred law of the Muslim religion - by watching videos on YouTube.

I would have guessed it was from reading YouTube comments, not watching the videos themselves, considering the odious nature of his rhetoric.

14 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:54:24pm

All I know about Christians I learned from watching Kirk Cameron videos.

15 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:55:18pm

re: #14 Jeff In Ohio

All I know about Christians I learned from watching Kirk Cameron videos.

You poor, poor man.

16 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:55:34pm

re: #11 Gus 802

The crazy people seemed to have snuck in to this world while I was living.

and emerged after January 21, 2009!

17 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:55:37pm

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

This is what one gets when ignorance and arrogance proudly meet to justify hatred.

Welcome to the face of the right in America.

It’s more than that Ludwig…This attitude has been shown in all religions since the beginning of time.. If we go back and do the math.. More people have died in the name of God than for any other reason since the dawn of time..
Much to our Shame…

18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:55:55pm

Everything I know about women I learned from watching…

Wait, never mind.

19 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:56:03pm

re: #14 Jeff In Ohio

All I know about Christians I learned from watching Kirk Cameron videos.

I learned about Jews watching late night reruns of Bridget Loves Bernie.
/

20 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:56:20pm

I learned math from Glenn Beck.

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:58:04pm

re: #20 Jeff In Ohio

Phuck, when did they start changing that?

22 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:59:13pm

re: #20 Jeff In Ohio

I learned math from Glenn Beck.


[Video]

Hopefully, you didn’t learn to spell from GB…

/O L I G A R H Y

23 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:59:28pm

Cthulu, all I ask is that when you come back, eat the right wingers first, in a very public way. Then you can eat me, as I will have seen justice served.

24 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 2:59:47pm

re: #22 talon_262

Hopefully, you didn’t learn to spell from GB…

/O L I G A R H Y

Moran!11!

25 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:00:26pm

re: #20 Jeff In Ohio

I learned math from Glenn Beck.

[Video]

Here is your graham cracker and apple juice, now go lie down on the rubber mat for a while before you hurt yourself.

26 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:01:25pm

From the first link:

In his deposition, Jones acknowledged that his congregation has decreased in recent years, telling attorneys that he currently has a congregation of about 50 people - whereas he had 100 people when his congregation was at its largest.

“I think mainly just because the things we’re involved in are just really way too hot for your normal Christian and your normal person.”

Let’s see… way too hot for normal Christians…he’s involved in Hell?

27 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:02:29pm

This guy told his followers in Germany to beat their children with rods. What a sicko.

29 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:03:47pm

Hating is good business,

By all appearances, Jones and his wife live a comfortable lifestyle. Facebook pages show him in shorts and a biker T-shirt on the back of a shiny Harley, and Alachua County property records list he and his wife as owning two apartment houses, and their business, owning five. His wife owns a waterfront condo three hours away in the beach town of Treasure Island near St. Petersburg, Florida.

The couple also has use of the church’s luxury 1,500-square-foot parson’s quarters. The metal, cavernous church itself, by contrast, is nothing fancy. A drop-down ceiling grips the metal roof and cheap carpet lines its floors.

30 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:05:30pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

Yo..Rev Jones(is that his real name?)
Ask yourself one question….WWJD?
Rev Jones replies”Jesus had no Qurans to burn”!!
This guy’s in denial of what his actions will reap!!
I wouldn’t stand anywhere near him on a sunny day!
(lightning) BOOM!

31 garhighway  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:06:30pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Koran Burner: Creepier Than You Think | The Smoking Gun

It would be damn near impossible for this guy to be creepier than I think he is.

32 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:07:04pm

It would just be hilarious if the book burning could be disrupted by a water dropping helicopter like we use here on brush fires… Of course if I were an angry type I’d wish for this instead

Oh man I wish I could embed that video in the post.

33 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:07:09pm

Everything I know about Terry I learned from reading LGF.

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:08:43pm

re: #23 Fozzie Bear

I’m planning on doing more of a buffet style thing. Little ‘o this, little ‘o that. I’ll try and set you aside for desert, but no promises.

35 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:10:12pm

From the second link:

Andrew Schäfer, a Protestant Church official responsible for monitoring sects in the region where Cologne is located, confirmed the accounts. “Terry Jones is a fundamentalist,” he told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

Both major churches in Germany have “sect commissioners” who monitor the activities of religious groups, sects and cults. Although they are obviously not totally impartial, the officials’ findings are usually considered to be trustworthy.

Boy, that would never fly in the US, although one can understand the temptation to monitor these things.

36 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:11:14pm

Cologne may or may not be a city of Hell, but it is in point of fact full of Catholics. Prolly the same in his “mind”.

37 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:12:14pm

re: #14 Jeff In Ohio

All I know about Christians I learned from watching Kirk Cameron videos.

Here…*passes the super strength brain bleach*

38 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:12:39pm

Every Religion has it’s own brand of wacko extremists…I Hate it..
Don’t matter if the want to fly planes in buildings.. or play with rattlesnakes..they will burn your Holy book in the name of God..They will preach to you at mass and rape your children on monday..They will heal you with just a touch and beg for money on TV..They will stone woman…
Religion really has a litany of extremism

39 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:13:34pm

You’ve got to wonder if this guy has a supply of flavor-aid and cyanide stashed away somewhere

40 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:13:52pm

re: #27 Charles

This guy told his followers in Germany to beat their children with rods. What a sicko.

spare the rod…//

41 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:14:21pm

OT: In honor of the discussion in the last thread, I shall link:

76 Real Israeli Beach Babes to Kick-Off Rosh Hashanah
(NSFWish links may be there)

42 webevintage  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:14:35pm

re: #27 Charles

This guy told his followers in Germany to beat their children with rods. What a sicko.

I wonder if they are part of the fundi movement that uses “To Train Up a Child”?
[Link: www.salon.com…]

I actually was a homeschool convention 10 or 11 years ago where the Pearls were speaking and yeah, creepy group of folks.
This book and this form of discipline was all the rage in evangelical fundi groups when my son was little. No I did not get sucked in to the “beating your child with a wooden dol rod proves you love them” cult.

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:14:58pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

From the second link:

Boy, that would never fly in the US, although one can understand the temptation to monitor these things.

Remember, Germany is the same country where, when a lady of my acquaintance called a government agency to formally leave her church, the guy on the phone told her, deadpan, that he could send her the paperwork, but he needed to inform her that she WOULD go to hell.

It’s not that Germans don’t have a sense of humor, it’s just that no one else can figure out what the hell it’s about.

44 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:15:10pm

re: #37 blueraven

Here…*passes the super strength brain bleach*

Aw, Kirk can’t handle my brain. I’m the guy in the Creation Museum asking to see Adam’s pecker.

45 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:15:54pm

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

Remember, Germany is the same country where, when a lady of my acquaintance called a government agency to formally leave her church, the guy on the phone told her, deadpan, that he could send her the paperwork, but he needed to inform her that she WOULD go to hell.

It’s not that Germans don’t have a sense of humor, it’s just that no one else can figure out what the hell it’s about.

Something to do with sausage and ugly pants I believe.

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:16:06pm

re: #44 Jeff In Ohio

Aw, Kirk can’t handle my brain. I’m the guy in the Creation Museum asking to see Adam’s pecker.

Do you expect it looked different from any of his descendents’?

47 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:16:38pm

re: #12 Rightwingconspirator

All I can say is I for one am praying for rain on the book burning day, all day. Heck a small flood right there would be great.

Hello from SoCal Reine de tout, how are you and the Roi?

Hey RWC.
We are fine and dandy, and a bit DAMP, thank you!

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:16:39pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Something to do with sausage and ugly pants I believe.

And Albrecht Durer.

49 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:16:40pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

Do you expect it looked different from any of his descendents’?

No. I expected to see it.

50 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:17:17pm

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

OT: In honor of the discussion in the last thread, I shall link:

76 Real Israeli Beach Babes to Kick-Off Rosh Hashanah
(NSFWish links may be there)

Just gonna add that to favorites for further research later…

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:17:20pm

re: #49 Jeff In Ohio

No. I expected to see it.

Before Adam’s Rib…there was Adam’s Schlong.

52 elbruce  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:17:26pm

re: #44 Jeff In Ohio

Aw, Kirk can’t handle my brain. I’m the guy in the Creation Museum asking to see Adam’s pecker.

I’d be more interested in asking them whether he had a belly button.

53 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:17:50pm

If I had children and was inclined to beat them, I’d favor a belt, except the Bible specifies a rod.

Will an iron one be acceptable in the eyes of God?

54 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:17:57pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You’ve got to wonder if this guy has a supply of flavor-aid and cyanide stashed away somewhere

I was gonna make a quip about Terry Jones being related to ol’ Jim…hrmmm

55 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:18:20pm

Just added to Pages:
Koran Burner: Creepier Than You Think.
Florida church’s student “rulebook” worthy of pastor’s bonfire

This is the rulebook for students at the cult’s ministerial school. It is riddled with grammatical and spelling errors and is plainly the product of a deranged control freak. Among the lowlights:

-Students are weighed once a week to make sure they meet physical standards.
-Eating in restaurants, contact with the opposite sex, and most contact with family members are forbidden.
-“Backtalk” is forbidden, and “instant repentance or apology” is expected when confronted about a “bad attitude.”
“If for any reason, the student do not want to right the issue, the student is suppose to ask for an appointment.”
-“in order to become a FFM students are required to absolve 3 years of the DWOC academy.” whatever the hell that means. In fact, “FFM” stands for either “Fife Fold Minister” (as rendered in the guide) or (more likely) “Five Fold Minister.”

My favorite section is the last one, entitled “clothe and sanity” presumably meaning “clothes and sanitation” since it involves rules for bathing, grooming, and cleanliness.

56 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:18:35pm

Isn’t that kind of like someone saying “I learned everything I know about Christians from P.Z. Myers “Pharyngula” site?

///sheesh…

57 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:19:29pm

re: #52 elbruce

I’d be more interested in asking them whether he had a belly button.

Well, since all he had was a loin clothe, I could see his belly button. BTW, the CM uses live models. Least they did when it first opened up. The first Adam they had was fired for his, um, activities in, um, porn.

I’m not making it up!

58 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:20:00pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

Does “Go fuck yourself, you addlepated old coot.” count as backtalk?

59 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:20:13pm

oh gawddd. from James Urbaniak:

A Sarah Palin Facebook post containing the phrases “I can think of no better way to commemorate 9/11” and “Tickets are available at Ticketmaster.com” really says it all.
60 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:20:16pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Before Adam’s Rib…there was Adam’s Schlong.

There’s a good circumcision line in there, damned if I can find it. Something about sausage casing or not…

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:20:55pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

And they want to demonize islam? Sheesh. They sound like they would favor the Saudi version of running things.

62 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:21:53pm

re: #60 Jeff In Ohio

There’s a good circumcision line in there, damned if I can find it. Something about sausage casing or not…

Well, there was Adam 12, then it was Adam 11 and 3/4.

63 allegro  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:22:37pm

It seems that if there are people there still in therapy as a result of their abuse at this guy’s hands, that there were suckers who actually gave him their shit and beat their kids cuz he told them to. I think that reality creeps me out more than the huckster guy and his wife.

64 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:23:39pm

re: #63 allegro

It seems that if there are people there still in therapy as a result of their abuse at this guy’s hands, that there were suckers who actually gave him their shit and beat their kids cuz he told them to. I think that reality creeps me out more than the huckster guy and his wife.

Lotsa people out there just waiting for someone else to tell them what to do.

And in case there are any reading this, send me all your money.

65 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:24:01pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, there was Adam 12, then it was Adam 11 and 3/4.

Your not really familiar with the whole erection thing, are you?

66 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:24:20pm

re: #63 allegro

It seems that if there are people there still in therapy as a result of their abuse at this guy’s hands, that there were suckers who actually gave him their shit and beat their kids cuz he told them to. I think that reality creeps me out more than the huckster guy and his wife.

He has 50 members in his church! unreal…

67 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:24:59pm

re: #65 Jeff In Ohio

Your not really familiar with the whole erection thing, are you?

I heard that Japan sent a whole shipload of Viagra to Florida in 2001 after they heard that they were having problems with its elections.

68 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:25:18pm

re: #53 Cato the Elder

If I had children and was inclined to beat them, I’d favor a belt, except the Bible specifies a rod.

Will an iron one be acceptable in the eyes of God?

We use a wet noodle and a lot of sarcasm around here.

69 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:25:31pm

re: #66 HoosierHoops

He has 50 members in his church! unreal…

From the Fred Phelps/Westboro Baptist Church school of evangalism.

70 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:25:33pm

re: #66 HoosierHoops

He has 50 members in his church! unreal…

He had up to 1,000 in Germany.

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:25:39pm
72 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:25:50pm

re: #67 PT Barnum

Meh, old people. Good for Soylent Green, but not much else.

73 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:26:22pm

Anyone who feels “talking is part of the problem” is themselves about 95% of the time “part of the problem” in my book.

74 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:26:35pm

re: #72 Jeff In Ohio

Meh, old people. Good for Soylent Green, but not much else.

Hey wait a minute…I aspire to be an old people some day…that is if 48 isn’t already considered old.

75 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:26:35pm

re: #65 Jeff In Ohio

Your not really familiar with the whole erection thing, are you?

You can’t blame me, I’m stuck at the back end and can’t see that far!

76 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:27:11pm

re: #73 jamesfirecat

Anyone who feels “talking is part of the problem” is themselves about 95% of the time “part of the problem” in my book.

They should at least remove the word “Outreach” from their name.

77 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:27:20pm

re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Snort!

78 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:27:32pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Before Adam’s Rib…there was Adam’s Schlong.

And Lilith’s laughter.

79 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:27:50pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

He had up to 1,000 in Germany.

I’d say his career path is on the decline…But what the hay..Maybe he figures he’ll go out in a blaze of glory and be demonized by the whole world..

80 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:27:56pm

re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can’t blame me, I’m stuck at the back end and can’t see that far!

Funniest title line in an email was from our facilities director when I worked for Gateway back in the 90s…

Large Steel Erection accross the street.

Emptied out the entire secretarial pool.

81 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:27:59pm

re: #59 deranged cat

oh gawddd. from James Urbaniak:

And these wingnut tools DARE say that the Cordoba House/Park51 project (two blocks away from Ground Zero) somehow desecrates the memory of those lost on 9/11…all the while, selling fucking tickets to their 9/11 function and exploiting 9/11 like nobody’s business.

*spit*

82 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:29:15pm

re: #79 HoosierHoops

I’d say his career path is on the decline…But what the hay..Maybe he figures he’ll go out in a blaze of glory and be demonized by the whole world..

I think he’s self-demonizing. Maybe he’ll do well with the blaze of glory, too.

83 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:29:17pm

re: #74 PT Barnum

Hey wait a minute…I aspire to be an old people some day…that is if 48 isn’t already considered old.

You haven’t renewed on Carousel yet?

84 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:29:41pm

re: #81 talon_262

but it’s about freedom and capitalism you betcha!

//

85 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:30:18pm

I wish this loon could be ignored, and him and his hateful cultists have their book burning in a vacuum, because you know he is just eating up all this attention.

86 garhighway  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:30:36pm

This is off-topic but sufficiently weird to belong on this thread:

Rick Santorum has a “Google problem” that might impede his next run for public office.

[Link: motherjones.com…]

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:31:46pm

re: #83 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We got a Runner. Get a Sandman on the line, stat!

88 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:32:16pm

re: #86 garhighway

This is off-topic but sufficiently weird to belong on this thread:

Rick Santorum has a “Google problem” that might impede his next run for public office.

[Link: motherjones.com…]

Karma is a bitch!

89 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:32:17pm

These are the kind of people who think that you should beat a kid to get them to stop crying.

The kid stops crying…for the next thirty years, when their therapist finally gets them to start again.

90 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:33:07pm

re: #89 EmmmieG

These are the kind of people who think that you should beat a kid to get them to stop crying.

The kid stops crying…for the next thirty years, when their therapist finally gets them to start again.

One of my favs - if you don’t stop crying, I’m going to hit you.

Because a hug never help anyone who was crying.

91 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:33:40pm

re: #83 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You haven’t renewed on Carousel yet?

I can’t run fast enough to get on.

92 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:34:18pm

re: #90 Jeff In Ohio

One of my favs - if you don’t stop crying, I’m going to hit you.

Because a hug never help anyone who was crying.

Most criers just need time to grow up.

Oh, and to not be bribed with a cookie for crying, because then they will perfect the art of the trembling lower lip.

Trust me.

*big eyes, lower lip trembles, tear drop on the edge of eye*

93 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:34:28pm

re: #86 garhighway

This is off-topic but sufficiently weird to belong on this thread:

Rick Santorum has a “Google problem” that might impede his next run for public office.

[Link: motherjones.com…]

I just like the word Frothy.

FROTHY!
FRAA-THAY!

94 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:34:31pm

re: #90 Jeff In Ohio

One of my favs - if you don’t stop crying, I’m going to hit you.

Because a hug never help anyone who was crying.

I have a 9 year old who cries at the drop of a hat. I have never thought hitting him was the answer, though I have sent him to his room when I thought it was drama and not real hurt.

95 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:34:59pm

re: #94 PT Barnum

I have a 9 year old who cries at the drop of a hat. I have never thought hitting him was the answer, though I have sent him to his room when I thought it was drama and not real hurt.

My sister used to cry in front of a mirror.

96 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:35:23pm

re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just like the word Frothy.

FROTHY!
FRAA-THAY!

I like frothtieth. There the betht part about eating at Wendy’th.

97 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:37:02pm

re: #95 EmmmieG

My sister used to cry in front of a mirror.

I finally resorted to the old fine process. You get $15 a week in allowance. Every fit you have costs $1. There is no limit on the number of dollars you can lose, but you can’t go in the whole.

Has helped some.

98 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:37:40pm

re: #94 PT Barnum

I have a 9 year old who cries at the drop of a hat. I have never thought hitting him was the answer, though I have sent him to his room when I thought it was drama and not real hurt.

Aw, the Waldorfians call that the 9 year change - when kids start to realize that fairies aren’t real and people can be evil. It’s a hard hump for a kid to get over, thus all the crying and unreasonableness.

This to will pass, then they’re tweeners and your just stupid..

99 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:38:41pm

re: #97 PT Barnum

I finally resorted to the old fine process. You get $15 a week in allowance. Every fit you have costs $1. There is no limit on the number of dollars you can lose, but you can’t go in the whole.

Has helped some.

I’ve gone with the “Do you want a reason to cry, because I can think of a few” line when I think they’re faking it. That clears up the problem usually.

100 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:39:07pm

re: #89 EmmmieG

These are the kind of people who think that you should beat a kid to get them to stop crying.

The kid stops crying…for the next thirty years, when their therapist finally gets them to start again.

I loved raising kids..Just fun and hard work but the most precious things in the Universe…I just projected my vibe on them walked beside them and be the Father in their lives and be a leader ( Kids need leaders) …And most all.. Was really lucky to have married a wonderful Mother..
She is awesome

101 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:39:54pm

re: #97 PT Barnum

I finally resorted to the old fine process. You get $15 a week in allowance. Every fit you have costs $1. There is no limit on the number of dollars you can lose, but you can’t go in the whole.

Has helped some.

Lucky kids, my allowance was like 3 dollars up until I turned 15 or so at which point it finally jumped to $10 when my brother left leaving more chores I could/should take care of.

102 garhighway  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:40:33pm

re: #86 garhighway

This is off-topic but sufficiently weird to belong on this thread:

Rick Santorum has a “Google problem” that might impede his next run for public office.

[Link: motherjones.com…]

And even stranger and funnier:

On the same page that has the Santorum story is an ad for toilet tissue. (For tidying up that “frothy mixture”, no doubt.)

Context-sensitive advertising: you gotta love it.

103 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:40:49pm

re: #81 talon_262

And these wingnut tools DARE say that the Cordoba House/Park51 project (two blocks away from Ground Zero) somehow desecrates the memory of those lost on 9/11…all the while, selling fucking tickets to their 9/11 function and exploiting 9/11 like nobody’s business.

*spit*

Proof that there is nothing these two will not do for a buck.

I concur…*spit*

104 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:41:07pm

re: #101 jamesfirecat

Hell, I could use a $15 a week allowance. Any room at the Inn PT?

105 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:41:42pm

re: #86 garhighway

This is off-topic but sufficiently weird to belong on this thread:

Rick Santorum has a “Google problem” that might impede his next run for public office.

[Link: motherjones.com…]

hahahaha!

Eventually it eclipsed Santorum’s own campaign site in search results

a google search of Santorum does indeed bring up that website first!

106 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:42:24pm

re: #103 blueraven

Bakers bake and grifters grift.

107 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:46:42pm

re: #95 EmmmieG

My sister used to cry in front of a mirror.

I still cry in front of a mirror.

Especially when just out of the shower.

108 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:47:12pm

re: #107 b_sharp

Solution: Remove mirror.

109 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:47:12pm

This was the lead story on NBC Nightly News. They visited the DWOC, where one sub-pastor showed off the S&W .40 he carries in response to various threats.
A Gainesville police official said emphatically that they will not allow the book-burning to go ahead, since the fire department regards the ink in books as a hazardous substance when burned (which it absolutely is, btw).

110 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:47:39pm

Now Sarah Palin’s trying to glom onto the story… she tweeted:

Koran Burning Is Insensitive, Unnecessary; Pastor Jones, Please Stand Down

And got her ghostwriter to do a new Facebook post: Koran Burning Is Insensitive, Unnecessary; Pastor Jones, Please Stand Down | Facebook

Our nation was founded in part by those fleeing religious persecution. Freedom of religion is integral to our charters of liberty. We don’t need to agree with each other on theological matters, but tolerating each other without unnecessarily provoking strife is how we ensure a civil society. In this as in all things, we should remember the Golden Rule. Isn’t that what the Ground Zero mosque debate has been about?

Oh man. There goes my irony meter again, and I just got it fixed. Sarah “Death Panels” Palin lectures others on provoking strife.

It’s self-refudiating.

111 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:47:39pm

re: #104 Jeff In Ohio

Hell, I could use a $15 a week allowance. Any room at the Inn PT?

No…He used to get nothing because I was unemployed and the debt had piled up to the ceiling. We’re down to paying off only 3 credit cards and should have them paid off by the end of the year, so he gets to benefit too.

Hope to be completely debt free in 5 years. only have the House, medical bills, and one student loan left to pay off. Of course that comes out to close to $80,000 but It’s managable for now.

112 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:48:23pm

re: #105 deranged cat

hahahaha!


a google search of Santorum does indeed bring up that website first!

Frothy

113 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:48:43pm

re: #107 b_sharp

I still cry in front of a mirror.

Especially when just out of the shower.

I usually laugh, then I realize that’s me and start to sob uncontrollably.

114 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:49:18pm

re: #110 Charles

Now Sarah Palin’s trying to glom onto the story… she tweeted:


And got her ghostwriter to do a new Facebook post: Koran Burning Is Insensitive, Unnecessary; Pastor Jones, Please Stand Down | Facebook


Oh man. There goes my irony meter again, and I just got it fixed. Sarah “Death Panels” Palin lectures others on provoking strife.

It’s self-refudiating.

Now if she could figure out a way to sell tickets to it, then that would be another story.

115 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:49:41pm

re: #107 b_sharp

I still cry in front of a mirror.

Especially when just out of the shower.

Heard of the world’s most effective diet?

You can eat anything you want—but you have to eat it while standing naked in front of a mirror.

116 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:49:46pm

re: #110 Charles

And she includes the “Ground Zero” lie, and is clearly trying to claim that Cordoba House is equivalent to the Koran burning.

What a transparent jerk.

117 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:50:31pm

re: #110 Charles

tolerating each other without unnecessarily provoking strife is how we ensure a civil society.

Somehow that doesn’t apply within 1,000 feet of “Ground Zero”.

118 pass the moonbaticide  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:51:10pm

Does he not remember the ‘Golden Rule’ , even though it was reinforced by his supposed Lord, Jesus Christ ?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

If he would be offended by a Bible-burning - and I’m sure he would -
then he should likewise refrain from abusing the Holy Book of another faith.

119 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:51:16pm

Well off to dinner with Mrs B and the Peanut. Later gators.

120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:51:17pm

re: #115 EmmmieG

I’ll eat anything you want me to if you stand na…

Wait, never mind.

121 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:51:59pm

re: #116 Obdicut

And she includes the “Ground Zero” lie, and is clearly trying to claim that Cordoba House is equivalent to the Koran burning.

What a transparent jerk.

“People have a constitutional right to burn a Koran if they want to, but doing so is insensitive and an unnecessary provocation — much like building a mosque at Ground Zero”

Hateful demagogue. Oh and a grifter.

(TPM called her facebook post a “press release” - that’s almost as bad)

122 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:52:31pm

Happy New Year everyone! One final comment for the year 5770:

[Link: www.wvgazette.com…]

Hope everyone has a sweet new year!

123 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:52:41pm

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

*Holds 10 foot pole, decides against touching that post*

124 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:53:06pm

To nobody’s surprise, there is a huge amount of support for Jones at Free Republic.
To be fair, there is also a contingent of sanity advocates who gamely fight back against the book-burners, but they are very much in the minority.

Oddly, Fred Phelps, who is no crazier than Jones imho and espouses many of the same beliefs, is universally despised at FR.

125 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:53:08pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

Hateful demagogue. Oh and a grifter.

(TPM called her facebook post a “press release” - that’s almost as bad)

Maybe it should be referred to as a “face-release”.

126 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:54:15pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

To nobody’s surprise, there is a huge amount of support for Jones at Free Republic.
To be fair, there is also a contingent of sanity advocates who gamely fight back against the book-burners, but they are very much in the minority.

Oddly, Fred Phelps, who is no crazier than Jones imho and espouses many of the same beliefs, is universally despised at FR.

Why do you keep going back there?

127 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:55:07pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Why do you keep going back there?

So I don’t have to.

128 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:55:16pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Why do you keep going back there?

It is a barometer of actual wingnut opinion and trends.

130 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:56:54pm

re: #110 Charles

She’s just pissed that this will take away attention from the lovefest she has planned with Beck. And it’s free to attend also, too.

131 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:57:06pm

re: #116 Obdicut

And she includes the “Ground Zero” lie, and is clearly trying to claim that Cordoba House is equivalent to the Koran burning.

What a transparent jerk.

Yes, because burning a holy book for billions of people, is the same as building a cultural center that has separate prayer rooms for Muslims, Jews and Christians.
One is burning bridges while the other is building them.

132 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:57:20pm

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

It is a barometer of actual wingnut opinion and trends.

I went back there today to collect my old posts and had to leave before I was finished because of the smell.

133 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:57:32pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

‘Burn the Quran Day’ protest: Terry Jones effigy set on fire in Afghanistan


[Video]

Thank you for bringing the debate to this Christian level, Mr. Jones.

Because I’m sure that Jesus is so happy with your efforts.

134 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:01:11pm

Man, no wonder this guy’s views are so warped.

135 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:02:02pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

Actually this video is somewhat heartening. 1) This is a relatively peaceful protest. No one advocating killing anyone and only one being burned in effigy is the actual perpetrator 2) This is in Kabul, right outside a military COB. The fact that it could take place in an occupied country during time of war and the occupier is not trying to prevent it says a great deal about the freedoms we enjoy and allow others.
Lets hope it stays that way.

136 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:02:31pm

Yeah, that is kind of ironic—

If Terry Jones had been born Teru al-Jones, he would be preaching the total adoption of the harshest types Sharia law right now.

Guaranteed.

137 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:03:46pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Why do you keep going back there?

About 30 years ago, I expressed some concern about the creationists and religious right whackos who were starting to insinuate themselves into the local GOP. A wise old grassroots veteran told me they were helping in the short term, unity and winning trumped everything, and their nutty ideas would fade into obscurity if we just didn’t place undue emphasis on them.
You can see how that worked out.

138 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:03:54pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

To nobody’s surprise, there is a huge amount of support for Jones at Free Republic.
To be fair, there is also a contingent of sanity advocates who gamely fight back against the book-burners, but they are very much in the minority.

Oddly, Fred Phelps, who is no crazier than Jones imho and espouses many of the same beliefs, is universally despised at FR.

It’s because Phelps pickets the funerals of the troops. If he only picketed gays funerals, I highly doubt he would be universally despised at FR.

139 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:04:21pm

Wishing all my friends a Good Blessed New Year

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:05:36pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

To nobody’s surprise, there is a huge amount of support for Jones at Free Republic.
To be fair, there is also a contingent of sanity advocates who gamely fight back against the book-burners, but they are very much in the minority.

Oddly, Fred Phelps, who is no crazier than Jones imho and espouses many of the same beliefs, is universally despised at FR.

Is that because of Phelps’ anti-military activities?

141 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:05:47pm

re: #139 Alouette

Wishing all my friends a Good Blessed New Year

And the same to you, and Ludwig, and any / all of the Jewish members of the Lizard Nation.

142 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:06:40pm

re: #36 Cato the Elder

Cologne may or may not be a city of Hell, but it is in point of fact full of Catholics. Prolly the same in his “mind”.

In talking with fundy evangelicals before, I’ve noted over and over that they don’t like any of the Orthodox Christian churches.

143 gearhead  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:06:42pm

I liked him much better when he was in Monty Python…

144 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:06:53pm

re: #129 Slumbering Behemoth

‘Burn the Quran Day’ protest: Terry Jones effigy set on fire in Afghanistan

[Video]

can’t watch the video but can someone please put my mind at rest and state the effigy being burned is not of a squeaky voiced drag queen in a long flowery dress and pearls……….

145 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:07:30pm

re: #110 Charles

Sarah’s fans are confused:

Becky Reader Sarah I hear what your saying and I agree but Damn people are so sick of being s—- on. I have to ALMOST thank this guy for doing it so somebody does it

Valerie Brown Sawyer Sarah, I am highly disappointed that you are taking this stance. This shows that you have no clue who and what our enemy is. This is a perfect chance to call our enemy out and stand up to them, but Americans are too weak to do it.

Greg Maloney Remember, YOU AND I are paying for the maggot who is trying to build a monument to the jihad at Ground Zero to travel to the ME to solicit donations from our enemies. Wake up!

Mark Gerleve The koran should be banned in the USA because it is AGAINST the 8th AMENDMENT. It COMMANDS cruel and unusual punishment. Ciltoral mutilation, Amputation. didmemberment, honor killings. stoning, and beheading. Is this what should be condoned in America. islam COMMANDS YOUR DEATH. WAKE UP !!!

Oh, Sarah…how will you ever tame these people?

146 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:08:04pm

re: #143 gearhead

I liked him much better when he was in Monty Python…

re: #144 wozzablog

can’t watch the video but can someone please put my mind at rest and state the effigy being burned is not of a squeaky voiced drag queen in a long flowery dress and pearls…

Nice work you two.

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:09:02pm

re: #135 Escaped Hillbilly

Actually this video is somewhat heartening. 1) This is a relatively peaceful protest. No one advocating killing anyone and only one being burned in effigy is the actual perpetrator 2) This is in Kabul, right outside a military COB. The fact that it could take place in an occupied country during time of war and the occupier is not trying to prevent it says a great deal about the freedoms we enjoy and allow others.
Lets hope it stays that way.

That’s all true, and good to bear in mind.

148 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:09:14pm

re: #145 darthstar

Sarah’s fans are confused:

Oh, Sarah…how will you ever tame these people?

Sheesh talk about nutty buddies. Sorry that was the most lame pun ever.

149 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:09:14pm

re: #145 darthstar

It’s the Dissonance Song. (insert sound of Crows cawing and flapping)

150 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:10:03pm

re: #145 darthstar

I have seen the enemy and he is us.

151 M. Dubious  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:10:05pm

I thought Sarah Palin would be all “burn baby, burn”. No disco inferno?

152 gearhead  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:10:10pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

re: #144 wozzablog

Nice work you two.

“No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!”

153 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:11:03pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

re: #144 wozzablog


Nice work you two.

(takes a bow)

154 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:11:10pm

re: #145 darthstar

Sarah’s fans are confused:

Oh, Sarah…how will you ever tame these people?

Sarah Palin, not right wing enough for some people?

No please don’t pass the popcorn, I don’t think I have room for another bite.

155 Batman  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:11:31pm

re: #145 darthstar

Sarah’s fans are confused:

Oh, Sarah…how will you ever tame these people?

She’s always found the best way to put out a fire is with a fan or a bellows.

156 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:12:49pm

re: #155 nonsense

She’s always found the best way to put out a fire is with a fan or a bellows.

Bellows is right.

157 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:13:45pm

re: #88 Jeff In Ohio

Karma is a bitch!

Good luck with that, Rick Santorum

Santorum
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Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
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Santorum Santorum

158 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:14:47pm

By the way speaking of Sarah’s fans. Does the clown who suggests that the Koran be banned realized that Thomas Jefferson owned one? And I’m sorry but you don’t get to bust on the Koran for promoting violence while wanting the Bible and its rules to have a bigger role in our society especially given that the Bible has its own violent tales.

159 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:15:39pm

All of this makes me yearn for the days of King Henry II:

“Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?”

/

160 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:15:45pm
161 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:16:37pm

Kos writes more about the Rand Paul intern concern troll:
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

162 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:16:51pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

By the way speaking of Sarah’s fans. Does the clown who suggests that the Koran be banned realized that Thomas Jefferson owned one? And I’m sorry but you don’t get to bust on the Koran for promoting violence while wanting the Bible and its rules to have a bigger role in our society especially given that the Bible has its own violent tales.

Great. Now all the Texan School loonies will feel vindicated because Jefferson was a secret muslim too//

163 researchok  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:16:56pm

re: #142 eclectic infidel

In talking with fundy evangelicals before, I’ve noted over and over that they don’t like any of the Orthodox Christian churches.

Less room for ‘creative theology’.

164 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:17:35pm

re: #162 Petero1818

Great. Now all the Texan School loonies will feel vindicated because Jefferson was a secret muslim too//

Oh noes burn the witch.

165 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:17:46pm

re: #157 darthstar

Good luck with that, Rick Santorum

Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum
Santorum Santorum

Wasn’t Rick Santorum also the guy who threw that fit/rant with “President Obama rare you listening” on the floor of Wall Street?

166 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:18:13pm

re: #165 jamesfirecat

Wasn’t Rick Santorum also the guy who threw that fit/rant with “President Obama rare you listening” on the floor of Wall Street?

santelli

167 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:19:02pm

Speaking of YouTube, here’s a hilarious parody of sub-moron Pastor Jones and his Christian Smackdown movement.

168 M. Dubious  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:20:23pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

If we absolutely have to ban a book, I suggest “Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus: The Classic Guide to Understanding the Opposite Sex” by John Gray.

169 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:21:19pm

re: #166 wozzablog

santelli

Ahh my bad, but in my defense they are both named Rick, though…

170 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:21:28pm

re: #166 wozzablog

re: #165 jamesfirecat


Also famous for this family photo

171 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:23:05pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

re: #165 jamesfirecat


Also famous for this family photo

family fail!

172 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:23:06pm

re: #86 garhighway

This is off-topic but sufficiently weird to belong on this thread:

Rick Santorum has a “Google problem” that might impede his next run for public office.

[Link: motherjones.com…]

I also like the fact that there’s now going to be a google search result with the caption (of the article) “Rick Santorum’s Anal Sex Problem”…

173 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:23:46pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

re: #165 jamesfirecat

Also famous for this family photo

OMG, is that real? Talk about crying in front of a mirror…is that his daughter? Did he just tell her she’s up for adoption?

174 Fenris  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:24:00pm

Just in: Jones’s backlash scheme is working. The PressTV Comedy Hour just reported that “Burn a Koran Day” is a cover-up to distract the public from the Troofers. This comes not long after PressTV reported that the event was organized by Zionists (Jones held a joint protest with the rabidly anti-Zionist Fred Phelps in front of a Hillel building last April, but can’t let pesky, tricksy facts get in the way.)

175 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:24:16pm

re: #172 darthstar

I also like the fact that there’s now going to be a google search result with the caption (of the article) “Rick Santorum’s Anal Sex Problem”…

i believe he can get an over the counter cream for that…..

176 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:24:18pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

nope he was saying how daddy lost so now it’s medical experiments for the lot of them.

177 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:24:18pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

re: #165 jamesfirecat

Also famous for this family photo

Who would of thought someone could make the Palins look good by comparison.

178 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:25:20pm

re: #177 darthstar

the dude took his still born son home and had the kids and family sit there and hold him and talk to him. Nuff said.

179 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:25:27pm

Ya know it’s always interesting when something you’re learning in classes at the moment has a relevancy to current events. I’m taking modern German history right now. We started out on the Enlightenment to get a little background and we read a play by Lessing called Nathan the Wise and read some accompanying documents that were published around Lessing’s time and one of them was an anti semitic piece by a guy named Eisenmenger who had the most vile things you could imagine to say about Jewish people. I see Eisenmenger’s descendants in people like the pastor who get their information about Jews or in Jones’ case Muslims based off what they hear people say. There are a lot of things I don’t like about Islam or Christianity or any religion for that matter but it disturbs me greatly that there is a vocal mindset in this country that thinks all Muslims want to kill us. Statistics show that American Muslims are very well integrated with our population and I find it funny to see Republicans engaging in Islamophobia since after all the previous Republican president appointed a Muslim man to be his ambassador to Iraq and Afghanistan as well as his ambassador to the UN.

180 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:25:44pm

re: #165 jamesfirecat

Wasn’t Rick Santorum also the guy who threw that fit/rant with “President Obama rare you listening” on the floor of Wall Street?


Close though - they are both called rick, but CNBC did/do employ JD Hayworth to spout wingnut talking points as economic analysis & comment.

181 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:27:23pm

re: #178 Dreggas

the dude took his still born son home and had the kids and family sit there and hold him and talk to him. Nuff said.

Yes, that was pretty sick.

182 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:27:46pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

OMG, is that real? Talk about crying in front of a mirror…is that his daughter? Did he just tell her she’s up for adoption?

Real. He lost his election in 2006.

Saddest funny.

183 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:27:54pm

Anyone else getting this?


Forbidden

You don’t have permission to access /prod/ig/100824-091304_ig.html on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Apache/2.0.54 Server at cdn.tmpops.com Port 80

Charles, I think this one of the ads that are injected between posts

184 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:29:00pm

re: #178 Dreggas

the dude took his still born son home and had the kids and family sit there and hold him and talk to him. Nuff said.

That was him?

WHAT A MESS

No wonder the little girl is traumatized.

185 darthstar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:29:05pm

re: #183 Bubblehead II

Only the cool people get to access the /prod/ig/ sub-directory.

186 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:29:25pm

re: #178 Dreggas

the dude took his still born son home and had the kids and family sit there and hold him and talk to him. Nuff said.

I see some rich psychologists in his family’s future.

187 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:30:17pm

Okay, here’s the thing: this a-hole leads / has a ’ church ’ comprised of of exactly what…. fifty members? Subtract the thirty so far who have regained consciousness and defected , and you’re left with about twenty yahoos who stay for who knows why. He’s had his fifteen days of fame, and it’s time to stop paying any attention to him.
The numbers just aren’t there to justify it.
The press can find twenty idiots anywhere who subscribe to any number of atrocities. I bet there are twenty cannibals in a cult out there somewhere wondering when their press posse ‘s going to show. The worst thing that could happen now to the guy is for him to have his evil little ceremony with not one reporter there to cover it. It’d kill him.

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:30:59pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

OMG, is that real? Talk about crying in front of a mirror…is that his daughter? Did he just tell her she’s up for adoption?

It’s not her expression that worries me so much as the terrified and startled look on the boy behind her.

189 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:31:43pm

re: #185 darthstar

Only the cool people get to access the /prod/ig/ sub-directory.

Awesome. That must mean that I am hot!

/////////

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:31:53pm

re: #177 darthstar

Who would of thought someone could make the Palins look good by comparison.

Oh shush. The poor kid. Imagine having YOUR meltdown immortalized for posterity.

191 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:32:51pm

Just up in Pages:

Obama’s double-sekrit plan to sell us out to AQ and the Wahhabis isn’t going well at all. At least these guys wouldn’t say so if they were still available for comment:
Three drone strikes (in 12 hours) kill 18 militants in North Waziristan

192 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:33:48pm

re: #178 Dreggas

huh? i havent followed politics for that long, what is this referring to?

193 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:33:56pm

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel

Just up in Pages:

Obama’s double-sekrit plan to sell us out to AQ and the Wahhabis isn’t going well at all. At least these guys wouldn’t say so if they were still available for comment:
Three drone strikes (in 12 hours) kill 18 militants in North Waziristan

friendly fire
/

194 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:34:30pm

re: #178 Dreggas

k, i take it back. reading wikipedia..

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:34:46pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel

About 30 years ago, I expressed some concern about the creationists and religious right whackos who were starting to insinuate themselves into the local GOP. A wise old grassroots veteran told me they were helping in the short term, unity and winning trumped everything, and their nutty ideas would fade into obscurity if we just didn’t place undue emphasis on them.
You can see how that worked out.

Well, when you make a deal with the devil…

196 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:35:10pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

To nobody’s surprise, there is a huge amount of support for Jones at Free Republic.
To be fair, there is also a contingent of sanity advocates who gamely fight back against the book-burners, but they are very much in the minority.

Oddly, Fred Phelps, who is no crazier than Jones imho and espouses many of the same beliefs, is universally despised at FR.

Even stranger: Dove World Outreach is also homophobic and demonstrated shoulder to shoulder with Phelps in Gainesville at a Synagogue…

197 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:35:46pm

re: #192 deranged cat

huh? i havent followed politics for that long, what is this referring to?

Think Mrs. Santorum had a stillborn child or one that died soon after birth and they brought the baby’s body home so the kids could say good bye to it I believe.

198 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:36:52pm

Just when you thought the tea party circus couldn’t get any stupider:

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com…]

199 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:37:06pm

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel
How many civilians?/

200 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:37:07pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

Think Mrs. Santorum had a stillborn child or one that died soon after birth and they brought the baby’s body home so the kids could say good bye to it I believe.

wow, creepy times.

201 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:37:15pm

re: #196 Thanos

Even stranger: Dove World Outreach is also homophobic and demonstrated shoulder to shoulder with Phelps in Gainesville at a Synagogue…

Ah well at least they’re honest about their anti-semitism rather than playing the we love Israel card to hide it. Explains why this guy disdains open faith dialogue. Wonder how he feels about Catholics. Can’t wait to find out that my baptized religion is a sinister Roman plot to take over the country.

202 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:37:28pm

re: #187 tradewind

Okay, here’s the thing: this a-hole leads / has a ’ church ’ comprised of of exactly what… fifty members? Subtract the thirty so far who have regained consciousness and defected , and you’re left with about twenty yahoos who stay for who knows why. He’s had his fifteen days of fame, and it’s time to stop paying any attention to him.
The numbers just aren’t there to justify it.
The press can find twenty idiots anywhere who subscribe to any number of atrocities. I bet there are twenty cannibals in a cult out there somewhere wondering when their press posse ‘s going to show. The worst thing that could happen now to the guy is for him to have his evil little ceremony with not one reporter there to cover it. It’d kill him.

As someone asked earlier, THAT is exactly why I still go to places like Free Republic. The cult’s actual membership is nothing, but there is more to it than the tiny membership itself. A quick perusal of the nut-o-sphere shows very widespread support for the Koran burning.

203 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:37:48pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior
This has been done to , excuse the phrase, ….death.

204 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:39:32pm

re: #157 darthstar

The blog is a scream. Like many movies today, very little on the intarwebs makes me laugh out loud.

Now I gotta clean the cats’ litter boxes.

Cheers.

205 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:40:15pm

re: #122 reuven

Happy New Year everyone! One final comment for the year 5770:

[Link: www.wvgazette.com…]

Hope everyone has a sweet new year!

They’ve even managed to snag a wingnut commenter on that story, too:

Posted By: Don’t Tread on Me (7 hours ago)Report Abuse


Let’s see…….Seattle, idiotic politics of correctness, loony Democrats who sell this nonsence. Yep, makes perfect sense to me.

Hope nobody lives in Cape Christian.

They’re everywhere !!!11ty

///

206 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:40:46pm

re: #198 Thanos
Speaking of teh stupid,
Not in the Senate Office Bldg, please! I thought this had to be an intern, but no.
Senior campaign staffer.
[Link: www.politico.com…]

207 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:41:04pm

This Koran burning gig is actually a golden opportunity for the world’s Muslims to show how much they have advanced in wisdom and tolerance, things any worthwhile religion ought to teach and actually instill in its followers.

208 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:41:23pm

re: #206 tradewind

Poor dumb bastard.

209 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:41:44pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel
So are the commenters freepers or groupies?
Haven’t seen that site in probably five years.

210 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:42:28pm

re: #207 Ojoe

This Koran burning gig is actually a golden opportunity for the world’s Muslims to show how much they have advanced in wisdom and tolerance, things any worthwhile religion ought to teach and actually instill in its followers.

By doing what exactly?

211 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:42:29pm

re: #208 Obdicut
I mean, the check point at the Hart Office Bldg.
Not the place for your stash./

212 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:42:54pm

re: #207 Ojoe

This Koran burning gig is actually a golden opportunity for the world’s Muslims to show how much they have advanced in wisdom and tolerance, things any worthwhile religion ought to teach and actually instill in its followers.

Yes, because these Christians have shown just how little they have.

213 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:43:27pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat
I believe the undercurrent there is ’ by not going all fatwa on you ‘, to put it as delicately as I can.

214 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:43:50pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel

As someone asked earlier, THAT is exactly why I still go to places like Free Republic. The cult’s actual membership is nothing, but there is more to it than the tiny membership itself. A quick perusal of the nut-o-sphere shows very widespread support for the Koran burning.

Yup, actual people typing “make a stand!!!1!”

215 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:43:59pm

A DISTINCTIVE DEMONOLOGY!!11!!11

That sounds like something Edward Gorey would come up with

Doctor Zoltan Von Killingshrew And His Distinctive Demonology of Manifestations Uncertain

216 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:44:47pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat

By doing what exactly?

Nothing - i believe is the preferred outcome.

217 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:45:08pm

re: #207 Ojoe

This Koran burning gig is actually a golden opportunity for the world’s Muslims to show how much they have advanced in wisdom and tolerance, things any worthwhile religion ought to teach and actually instill in its followers.

I actually don’t think the muslims of the world are that concerned with what some inbred toothless crackers do to a pile of Korans, but that’s just me

218 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:45:45pm

re: #217 WindUpBird
You weren’t around for the cartoon caper, then, I take it…….

219 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:46:00pm

re: #209 tradewind

So are the commenter’s creepers or groupies?
Haven’t seen that site in probably five years.

There are commenters at RedState supporting the burning.

220 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:46:31pm

Interesting that an act of pure bigotry by Christians here somehow turns into a “Golden Opportunity” for Muslims not to act like these Christians.

Hmm…

221 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:46:38pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat

By doing what exactly?

Nothing. Just let it go with perhaps a meh, so what? press release. Don’t do a
repeat the Cartoon riots. Not going to hold my breath though.

222 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:46:49pm

re: #219 prairiefire

There are commenters at RedState supporting the burning.

And FoxNews.

223 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:46:49pm

re: #209 tradewind

So are the commenters freepers or groupies?
Haven’t seen that site in probably five years.

Read above - Darth posted Palin fans who are for the burning. All under their real names on facebook.

224 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:48:25pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel

To nobody’s surprise, there is a huge amount of support for Jones at Free Republic.
To be fair, there is also a contingent of sanity advocates who gamely fight back against the book-burners, but they are very much in the minority.

Oddly, Fred Phelps, who is no crazier than Jones imho and espouses many of the same beliefs, is universally despised at FR.

Phelps protests military funerals, which makes the Freepers pissed

Whereas gays, the freepers are all queerhaters anyway, so they couldn’t care less about Phelps

225 deranged cat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:48:27pm

re: #205 talon_262

They’ve even managed to snag a wingnut commenter on that story, too:

They’re everywhere !!!11ty

///

we’re gonna take our gaming news BACK! ///

226 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:49:31pm

re: #212 Varek Raith

Well I think a “World Burn a Holy Book Day” would be a good idea, with the following rules:

1. As many small fires as you may want.

2. At least 10 Holy Books per fire, but not more than 100.

3. Only ONE copy of any particular Holy Book in the fire.

4. Be sure to purchase carbon credits in advance.

5. Have a fire extinguisher handy, but don’t use it on the books.

6. Eat, drink & be merry around the fire, and raise a glass to our common humanity.

7. The ashes must not be considered Holy, and must be disposed of with secular refuse.

• • • • •

I’m sure the Lizards can come up with a list of 100 uinque Holy Books.

The UN could sponsor this.

I would like to see the Daly Lama light the first one.

227 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:49:55pm

re: #213 tradewind

I believe the undercurrent there is ’ by not going all fatwa on you ‘, to put it as delicately as I can.

Unfortunately, idiocy begets idiocy. This quote is from an AP article I read earlier today.

“”It is the duty of Muslims to react,” said Mohammad Mukhtar, a cleric and candidate for the Afghan parliament in the Sept. 18 election. “When their holy book Quran gets burned in public, then there is nothing left. If this happens, I think the first and most important reaction will be that wherever Americans are seen, they will be killed. No matter where they will be in the world they will be killed.”

228 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:49:57pm

re: #226 Ojoe

Ugh.

229 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:50:08pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea
Then it’s time for the press to stop throwing red meat to the carnivores.
I remember that the major networks made a decision during 9-11 not to show the footage of some of the worst things during the trade center attacks ( the jumpers, for example), out of concern that it would ’ inflame anti-muslim sentiment ‘. Maybe they should show some discretion when it comes to covering obviously insignificant jerks as well.

230 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:51:24pm

re: #226 Ojoe


I’m sure the Lizards can come up with a list of 100 uinque Holy Books.


the pocket guide to swiss cheese…..

231 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:51:28pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat

By doing what exactly?

By not having a violent snit immediately afterwards, for weeks, like with the Danish cartoons.

232 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:52:00pm

re: #226 Ojoe

What are you talking about?

233 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:52:10pm

re: #227 Petero1818
Well, there you go.
This guy and his band of merry morons should never have had the publicity they have had. I wonder how many stories of exceptional tolerance and kindness towards muslims are being ginned up right now? For example, in my city, one of the largest Christian churches is letting the local islamic center use their facility rent free to worship, but who knew??
It’s not meaty.

234 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:52:48pm

re: #226 Ojoe

• • • • &b ull;

That was typed in as 8 of these: •

235 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:52:50pm

re: #229 tradewind

Where’s that quote from?

236 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:53:26pm

re: #232 Obdicut

An annual festival to advance the peace and happiness of all humanity.

237 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:53:31pm

re: #233 tradewind

Which church?

If you say the name— then people will know.

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:53:44pm

re: #210 jamesfirecat

By doing what exactly?

Writing irate letters to their local newspapers.

(I cherished some of the letters by local Muslims when the ‘teddy bear named Mohammed’ scandal was going. Lots of women wrote to say that their child had a bear named Mohammed.)

239 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:53:46pm

re: #236 Ojoe

An annual festival to advance the peace and happiness of all humanity.

How would it do that?

240 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:53:49pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea
There are jerks everywhere. You should have read the comments at Kos and elsewhere when Tony Snow passed away.

241 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:53:56pm

re: #235 Obdicut

Where’s that quote from?


Falsehood central.

242 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:54:17pm

re: #226 Ojoe

As anti-theist as I am, no.
Just no.

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:55:03pm

re: #213 tradewind

I believe the undercurrent there is ’ by not going all fatwa on you ‘, to put it as delicately as I can.

“And I’ll declare a jee-had on your ass too!”

Really, though, I don’t think Pastor Jones is in much danger. Unless he sets his polyester slacks on fire trying to light a Koran.

244 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:55:09pm

re: #240 tradewind

Nice moving of the goal posts.

245 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:55:35pm

re: #229 tradewind

Then it’s time for the press to stop throwing red meat to the carnivores.
I remember that the major networks made a decision during 9-11 not to show the footage of some of the worst things during the trade center attacks ( the jumpers, for example), out of concern that it would ’ inflame anti-muslim sentiment ‘. Maybe they should show some discretion when it comes to covering obviously insignificant jerks as well.

They showed lots of footage of the jumpers that day. They just decided it would be in poor taste to play that footage over and over in the days following.

246 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:55:40pm

re: #239 Obdicut

Why, it would ease the anal coal to diamond pressure that too many of us carry around all the time, it seems.

247 avanti  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:55:50pm

re: #227 Petero1818

Unfortunately, idiocy begets idiocy. This quote is from an AP article I read earlier today.

“”It is the duty of Muslims to react,” said Mohammad Mukhtar, a cleric and candidate for the Afghan parliament in the Sept. 18 election. “When their holy book Quran gets burned in public, then there is nothing left. If this happens, I think the first and most important reaction will be that wherever Americans are seen, they will be killed. No matter where they will be in the world they will be killed.”

Yep, one idiot inspires another. Already reading on other blogs that we should bomb Mecca if we get a violent response, or how nice and shiny the mid east would look from space if we nuked the sand into glass.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:56:03pm

re: #221 Bubblehead II

Nothing. Just let it go with perhaps a meh, so what? press release. Don’t do a
repeat the Cartoon riots. Not going to hold my breath though.

Cartoon rioting wasn’t an American thing, was it? All that seemed to be overseas.

249 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:56:06pm

re: #237 Obdicut
Heartsong, a reformed Baptist congregation It’s a large, predominately white, pretty affluent, Christian church with a huge facility.

250 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:56:51pm

re: #206 tradewind

Speaking of teh stupid,
Not in the Senate Office Bldg, please! I thought this had to be an intern, but no.
Senior campaign staffer.
[Link: www.politico.com…]

I’m sure some people will be really riled up and outraged by that. Here in Cali we’ve got a different attitude about weed. Indeed we just may be legalizing small amounts of it soon.

251 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:57:04pm

re: #246 Ojoe

Why, it would ease the anal coal to diamond pressure that too many of us carry around all the time, it seems.

How would it do that?

252 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:57:53pm

re: #249 tradewind

Heartsong, a reformed Baptist congregation It’s a large, predominately white, pretty affluent, Christian church with a huge facility.

You mean Methodist I think:
[Link: memphissite.brickriver.com…]

That one, right?

253 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:58:06pm

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, I think nothing would thrill him more than to be able to call himself a member of the Salman Rushdie Club.
I’m quite sure he’ll get his wish and there will be some death threats. But that’s probably what sends the tingle down his leg.

254 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:59:19pm

re: #242 Varek Raith

Then you are stuck with the potential of hair trigger un-pleasantries unleashed by the combustion of a merely inconsequential physical object.

We should diffuse this stuff.

Here we are worrying about some small fire when the real problem is much larger and elsewhere.

255 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 4:59:57pm

re: #251 Obdicut

By merriment and laughter. It wold be a party.

256 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:00:29pm

re: #254 Ojoe

Then you are stuck with the potential of hair trigger un-pleasantries unleashed by the combustion of a merely inconsequential physical object.

We should diffuse this stuff.

Here we are worrying about some small fire when the real problem is much larger and elsewhere.

No.
You will just further inflame these people even more.
Seriously.
How many Christians and Muslims today aren’t over the Crusades?

257 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:01:01pm

re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist

Cartoon rioting wasn’t an American thing, was it? All that seemed to be overseas.

Yes but this is a connected world, and US soldiers are overseas too.

258 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:01:33pm

re: #255 Ojoe

By merriment and laughter. It wold be a party.

You know that things don’t happen just because you say they will, right?

259 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:01:46pm

re: #256 Varek Raith

No, if they are laughed at, then their power is diminished.

260 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:02:10pm

Regrettably, I believe that if the moron goes through with it, there will be retaliation, and I believe that retaliation will make the cartoon riots look like childs play. I think this because this act will take place in the US, and that will make it a bigger news item to extremists who already view the US as the great big satan. Pakistan’s ambassador has already weighed in on this so you know it will be big. I would assume US embassies throughout the Muslim world are vacating as we speak.

261 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:02:20pm

re: #252 Obdicut
Yeah, Methodist, Baptist…. I’m Episcopalian, I get them mixed up.
This one:
[Link: www.heartsongchurch.net…]

262 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:02:24pm

re: #259 Ojoe

No, if they are laughed at, then their power is diminished.

You, sir, are an optimist.
I salute you, but still think you are wrong.

263 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:02:37pm

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

“And I’ll declare a jee-had on your ass too!”

Really, though, I don’t think Pastor Jones is in much danger. Unless he sets his polyester slacks on fire trying to light a Koran.

Hold on there. Poly slacks are making a comeback. New synthetic technologies have led to fabrics and styles that have nothing in common with that 70s shit.

And there’s no ironing!

264 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:03:52pm

re: #258 Obdicut

The change has to start somewhere, and I think that wringing hands in worry about the potential reaction to this flame gig is making the problem worse.

265 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:04:40pm

re: #261 tradewind

Yeah, Methodist, Baptist… I’m Episcopalian, I get them mixed up.
This one:
[Link: www.heartsongchurch.net…]

Yes, it’s neat. Here’s one story about it— a nice one about how cool Heartsong is being.

[Link: www.wmctv.com…]

ANd here’s Fox News scaremongering about the Muslims, of course:

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

BUt it’s still got Heartsong being awesome.

What was your point about that story?

266 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:05:11pm

re: #264 Ojoe

The change has to start somewhere, and I think that wringing hands in worry about the potential reaction to this flame gig is making the problem worse.

///Yes the solution to book burning is more book burning, there’s no way this can go wrong!

267 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:05:20pm

re: #264 Ojoe

The change has to start somewhere, and I think that wringing hands in worry about the potential reaction to this flame gig is making the problem worse.

How is it making the problem worse, exactly?

268 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:06:43pm

No thanks. I’ll pass on the whole book burning thing. Other things I will pass on:

* Goose-stepping
* Singling out a race or religion, as a whole, for demonizing
* Sieg heil-ing
* Concentration/internment camps

269 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:07:49pm

re: #268 Slumbering Behemoth

No thanks. I’ll pass on the whole book burning thing. Other things I will pass on:

* Goose-stepping
* Singling out a race or religion, as a whole, for demonizing
* Sieg heil-ing
* Concentration/internment camps

Don’t forget the cult of personality thing.

270 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:08:15pm

re: #248 SanFranciscoZionist

Cartoon rioting wasn’t an American thing, was it? All that seemed to be overseas.

Correct it wasn’t an American thing. But if Muslims/Islam believers react in a violent manner over this, they will just be enforcing the stereotype most people have of them. This I think is the actual goal of this stunt.

Desecrate their Holy Book and watch them go up in flames.

Then we can nail them to the wall as Extremists.

271 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:08:28pm

re: #268 Slumbering Behemoth

No thanks. I’ll pass on the whole book burning thing. Other things I will pass on:

* Goose-stepping
* Singling out a race or religion, as a whole, for demonizing
* Sieg heil-ing
* Concentration/internment camps

I can still demonize disco, right???

272 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:08:43pm

re: #229 tradewind

I remember that the major networks made a decision during 9-11 not to show the footage of some of the worst things during the trade center attacks ( the jumpers, for example), out of concern that it would ’ inflame anti-muslim sentiment .

Some people remember it differently….. the concern was for the feelings of the family members who jumped.

nice try

273 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:08:48pm

re: #226 Ojoe

Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. After all, its sales exceeded those of the bible by a significant margin. That, and it provides a definition of Vogon poetry.

274 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:08:56pm

re: #267 Obdicut

Well looked at from the radical fundamentalist Muslim’s viewpoint, all the fuss is confirming the idea that there is influence and power in the history of “behaving badly” shall we say, and of course it only encourages more of the same.

275 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:09:38pm

re: #208 Obdicut

Poor dumb bastard.

276 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:09:48pm

re: #265 Obdicut
Never mind. It wasn’t exactly hidden.
On second thought, I don’t really want for Heartsong church to get a lot of press for their generosity. It’s bound to bring them grief from random idiots who in turn will bring with them, like a dog with fleas, a whole gaggle of press.

277 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:10:59pm

re: #274 Ojoe

Well looked at from the radical fundamentalist Muslim’s viewpoint, all the fuss is confirming the idea that there is influence and power in the history of “behaving badly” shall we say, and of course it only encourages more of the same.

///So its better if America is extremely “Meh” about the idea of someone gathering his friends around to burn Korans?

How would Israel feel if we were “meh” about people burning Torahs?

278 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:10:59pm

re: #269 EmmmieG

Don’t forget the cult of personality thing.

I have to do that, otherwise my cultists wouldn’t respect me.

279 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:11:08pm

re: #273 lawhawk

98 to go!

I nominate that L Ron Hubbard book,

and “The Fountainhead” by Ann Rand.

As an Architect for sure I nominate that one.

96 to go!

280 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:11:57pm

re: #274 Ojoe

Well looked at from the radical fundamentalist Muslim’s viewpoint, all the fuss is confirming the idea that there is influence and power in the history of “behaving badly” shall we say, and of course it only encourages more of the same.

You are making no sense at all tonight.

281 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:12:21pm

re: #277 jamesfirecat

Books don’t matter, now that printing has been invented there are many many copies.

282 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:12:44pm

re: #280 Obdicut

I don’t think so.

283 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:12:45pm

It is wrong to react to book burning in a violent/murderous manner. It’s also wrong to burn books.

284 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:13:32pm

re: #276 tradewind

Never mind. It wasn’t exactly hidden.
On second thought, I don’t really want for Heartsong church to get a lot of press for their generosity. It’s bound to bring them grief from random idiots who in turn will bring with them, like a dog with fleas, a whole gaggle of press.

It is kind of funny that Fox News was stirring up shit about the same Muslim group that Heartsong is being so awesome about, eh?

Thanks for turning me onto that story— it’s really neat. Glad we have good Christians like Heartsong standing up and showing others what generosity and neighborliness really are.

285 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:13:45pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

I can still demonize disco, right???

That’s mandatory, and I better not catch you slacking.

286 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:14:42pm

re: #281 Ojoe

Books don’t matter, now that printing has been invented there are many many copies.

I’ve only taken a few religious classes… but don’t the Jews tend to you know, consider the Torah something like the word of god made… well words…

As in there is something holy in and of itself about the book….

Would any Jewish Lizards care to step forward and correct/back me up here?

287 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:14:50pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

I can still demonize disco, right???

Disco is of the devil.

288 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:15:14pm

re: #218 tradewind

You weren’t around for the cartoon caper, then, I take it…

There was a lot more in play with the Jylland-Posten cartoons than dirtbag hicks on youtube, but you never know what you’re talking about, I’m not surprised

289 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:15:34pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel

Disco is of the devil.

I disagree, Abba kicks ass

290 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:15:39pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s mandatory, and I better not catch you slacking.

“Disco Stu likes disco music- the cats in Funky Business know how to move it, groove it and prove it, ya dig?”

291 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:16:41pm

re: #277 jamesfirecat
If this were some national movement? Then let the press go all out, you bet’cha. But one lone piece of garbage like this guy?
All I am saying is he’s had way too much time in the spotlight considering his potential for influence. More than half his little congregation , the flockers, have deserted him over this. Let the rest of them wake up too, instead of feeling like they now have to defend him at some fundy Alamo. ( No slur on the Alamo).

292 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:17:13pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s mandatory, and I better not catch you slacking.

I’ll take Earth Wind and Fire’s disco records over a lot of modern shitbag Creed-inspired AOR rock being played nowadays, not even a question

293 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:17:28pm

The fact that these haters on the right are making comments is not because of the media coverage. They were already ignorant haters.

294 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:17:43pm

re: #291 tradewind

They’re a burning this pastor in effigy in Afghanistan. You underestimate his reach.

295 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:17:45pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel

Disco is of the devil.

Nah, She’s responsible for all that awesome Heavy Metal. I think Etrigan is responsible for disco.

296 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:18:04pm

Disco is from heaven.

297 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:18:40pm

re: #288 WindUpBird
Oh, right. I forgot about the magic killer cartoons of evil. Those draw-rings actually came alive after midnight, did you know?//
So much worse than a koran burning.

298 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:18:55pm

re: #289 WindUpBird

I disagree, Abba kicks ass

Nobody said Satan lacked talent. He plays a pretty mean fiddle, for example:

299 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:19:02pm

re: #295 Slumbering Behemoth

Nah, She’s responsible for all that awesome Heavy Metal. I think Etrigan is responsible for disco.

Disco is one of Loki’s practical jokes that backfired.

300 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:19:03pm

It is probably too late to diffuse this by little 100 book weenie roasts

301 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:19:18pm

re: #296 prairiefire

Disco is from heaven.

My favorite disco song ever:

302 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:19:45pm

re: #291 tradewind

If this were some national movement? Then let the press go all out, you bet’cha. But one lone piece of garbage like this guy?
All I am saying is he’s had way too much time in the spotlight considering his potential for influence. More than half his little congregation , the flockers, have deserted him over this. Let the rest of them wake up too, instead of feeling like they now have to defend him at some fundy Alamo. ( No slur on the Alamo).

F*** that sense of complacency.

This is a chance for America to be great.

We should as a nation stand up to these people and say “you have broken no laws, but we find your behavior horrific none the less. We will not arrest you, but we will shun you one and all.”

And then proceed to do just that.

We shouldn’t just sit back and do nothing, we should ACTIVELY “do nothing” when it comes to these people, if we see on the street cross to the other side, if they come into our store, we should tell them they are not welcome and the management has a right not to serve them, if they call 911 or the fire department they should be rescued just like any other person who is in trouble because they have done nothing to make them an outlaw, and yet we should when we reasonably can treat them that way rather than just ignoring the problem they represent.

303 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:20:02pm

re: #300 Ojoe

It is probably too late to diffuse this by little 100 book weenie roasts

I think it’s more that that makes no sense whatsoever and wouldn’t work, actually.

304 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:20:17pm

re: #294 Varek Raith
Oh no….. I’m aware of how famous he is .
Now.
That’s kind of my point, but never mind… I’m kind tired of him. You all know how I feel about him and what he’s doing, and that’s enough.

305 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:20:24pm

re: #296 prairiefire

Disco is from heaven.

I like disco and metal, because both require a great deal of musicianship to do well. You cannot fake EWF. You cannot fake Abba hooks.

And Static X describes their sound as Evil Disco, and how can I turn that down, so great

306 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:21:00pm

re: #304 tradewind

Oh no… I’m aware of how famous he is .
Now.
That’s kind of my point, but never mind… I’m kind tired of him. You all know how I feel about him and what he’s doing, and that’s enough.

Yeah, blame the media.
Sorry, I will not, ever, ignore bigots.
Never.

307 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:21:08pm

re: #298 Shiplord Kirel

I saw Charlie Daniels live about ten years ago, really great show, a surprising segment of the show was all rock music, it was like the CDB morphed into Blue Oyster Cult, awesome stuff :D

308 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:21:16pm

re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth

It is wrong to react to book burning in a violent/murderous manner. It’s also wrong to burn books.

But not equally wrong. That seems to be a point not a lot of people are catching on to.

309 Obdicut  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:22:00pm

re: #308 Escaped Hillbilly

But not equally wrong. That seems to be a point not a lot of people are catching on to.

Like who?

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:22:46pm

re: #299 Varek Raith

Disco is one of Loki’s practical jokes that backfired.

Really? I thought for sure it was Etrigan. I mean, look at dude’s outfit. It screams disco. He even wears a giant medallion, for crap’s sake.

311 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:23:24pm

re: #300 Ojoe

It is probably too late to diffuse this by little 100 book weenie roasts

why would you even say this

“Hey, some guys are burning a jew in effigy, let’s make a gimpy old man joke about it!”

312 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:23:36pm

re: #303 Obdicut

Yeah but it might work.

What else has a chance to work?

I don’t think any book is sacred, & it is over-fawning to words on paper that causes a lot of the world’s problems.

313 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:23:59pm

Sometimes I really have no fucking clue what hole some of the posters here crawled out of

314 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:12pm

re: #311 WindUpBird

No, not an effigy, a book. Small “b.”

315 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:15pm

re: #312 Ojoe

Yeah but it might work.

What else has a chance to work?

I don’t think any book is sacred, & it is over-fawning to words on paper that causes a lot of the world’s problems.

You’re a fucking retard

316 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:17pm

re: #286 jamesfirecat

I’ve only taken a few religious classes… but don’t the Jews tend to you know, consider the Torah something like the word of god made… well words…

As in there is something holy in and of itself about the book…

Would any Jewish Lizards care to step forward and correct/back me up here?

Most Jews are likely at Erev Rosh Hashana dinner right now (except for me as I am sick lying in bed while my family celebrates at my Mother’s home - good news is they are bringing me chicken soup). So I will give the best answer I can.

The Torah is generally accepted to be the word of God as written by Moses. The book itself is considered holy and when taken out of circulation, Torahs are burried rather than thrown out.

That said, over the last few thousands of years, as you can imagine, many Torahs have been destroyed and burned. While it is of course viewed as an abhorrent act, it has never resulted in riots, other than those that rounded up the Jews to kill them,

317 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:26pm

re: #312 Ojoe

Yeah but it might work.

What else has a chance to work?

I don’t think any book is sacred, & it is over-fawning to words on paper that causes a lot of the world’s problems.

I see your problem.
You are applying logic to faith.
That, usually, doesn’t work.

318 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:38pm

re: #215 WindUpBird

A DISTINCTIVE DEMONOLOGY!!11!!11

That sounds like something Edward Gorey would come up with

Doctor Zoltan Von Killingshrew And His Distinctive Demonology of Manifestations Uncertain

Did that just pop into your head or did you have to think about it for a while?

319 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:50pm

As has been shown, Sarah Palin fans are behind the Koran burning, Freepers too, I’m not going to look further (FoxNation), but to write this guy off as one crackpot is blindness to what is happening.

Typical.

320 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:24:59pm

re: #312 Ojoe

Yeah but it might work.

What else has a chance to work?

I don’t think any book is sacred, & it is over-fawning to words on paper that causes a lot of the world’s problems.

We could try directly addressing the problem by shunning these sons of bitches like I suggested previously, giving them no succor that they are not legally entitled to…

321 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:25:05pm

re: #318 b_sharp

Did that just pop into your head or did you have to think about it for a while?

It’s WuB.
So…
:P

322 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:25:25pm

Donna Summer “I Feel Love”

323 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:26:22pm

re: #320 jamesfirecat

That is OK as far as it goes, but I don’t think it will make much difference overseas, if these guys actually burn a Koran, and no other holy books with it.

324 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:26:39pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

You’re a fucking retard

Uncalled for. He’s a good egg, he is just very wrong on this issue.

325 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:26:49pm

re: #315 WindUpBird


Dude. Not cool.

326 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:27:41pm

re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth

I don’t care what anyone calls me.

327 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:29:14pm

Need some awesomeness to counter the… disco *shudders*.

Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space

328 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:29:22pm

re: #309 Obdicut Slumbering Behemeth and anyone else who puts the two side by side as if to say they are equal. If that is not what is meant, then be more careful in your posts because that is what is being suggested by stating it nakedly. Oh, and Ojoe is right that books are just books. Out of respect for those who feel otherwise, I personally would never publicly burn anyone’s religious texts. But I support anyone’s right to do so. And I would say meh and not give them overmuch attention for their childish temper tantrum.

329 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:29:34pm

re: #326 Ojoe

It does nothing to elevate the conversation. Though I suspect that’s not always important. I think you’re wrong on this, but I can tell you that without calling you a BONZAI!

330 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:29:50pm

re: #326 Ojoe

I don’t care what anyone calls me.

Him calling you names is one thing. Him giving up on convincing you to change your mind is another. That’s the larger error the way I see it.

331 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:30:15pm

re: #329 Slumbering Behemoth

It does nothing to elevate the conversation. Though I suspect that’s not always important. I think you’re wrong on this, but I can tell you that without calling you a BONZAI!

Oh, geez, not the bonzai…
:)

332 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:30:34pm

re: #226 Ojoe

I would like to see the Daly Lama light the first one.

I’d like to see the Dalai Lama light his farts.

333 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:31:34pm

re: #229 tradewind

Then it’s time for the press to stop throwing red meat to the carnivores.
I remember that the major networks made a decision during 9-11 not to show the footage of some of the worst things during the trade center attacks ( the jumpers, for example), out of concern that it would ’ inflame anti-muslim sentiment ‘. Maybe they should show some discretion when it comes to covering obviously insignificant jerks as well.

No publicity, no power.

334 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:31:40pm

re: #332 b_sharp

Do you think he really would?

He’s really cool, I bet he would.

335 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:32:21pm

re: #334 Ojoe

Do you think he really would?

He’s really cool, I bet he would.

The Chinese wouldn’t know WTF to do!
XD

336 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:32:39pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

As has been shown, Sarah Palin fans are behind the Koran burning, Freepers too, I’m not going to look further (FoxNation), but to write this guy off as one crackpot is blindness to what is happening.

Typical.

Move along people, there’s nothing to see here…..lol

The right may have a problem, they stirred up their base with this mindless islamaphobia and there is no way the genie is going back into the bottle. It is going to be interesting how they try to spin there way out of this mess.

337 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:33:14pm

re: #281 Ojoe

Books don’t matter, now that printing has been invented there are many many copies.

Are you serious? If so, don’t be so literal minded. It’s not the material value of one or even 1000 Korans that is at issue.

The Koran burning is all symbolic and spiritual and emotional. It’s meant to insult Muslims and inflame passions, not to decrease the number of actual Korans by some infintesimal amount.

338 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:33:18pm

re: #333 b_sharp
Its a bit late for that though. Clinton has weighed in with her views as have a number of other high ranking government reps. He got what he wanted.

339 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:34:01pm

re: #338 Escaped Hillbilly

Really.
So we’re gonna blame this on the Admin and the media.
Please.

340 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:34:10pm

re: #328 Escaped Hillbilly

Slumbering Behemeth and anyone else who puts the two side by side as if to say they are equal.

That’s not what I was doing. I was only making a simple statement, not an equivalence.

If that is not what is meant, then be more careful in your posts because that is what is being suggested by stating it nakedly.

I would suggest you be more careful in your reading, and try not reading into a statement something that is not there.

Also, do try to spell my name right. Thank you.

341 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:34:25pm

re: #294 Varek Raith

They’re a burning this pastor in effigy in Afghanistan. You underestimate his reach.

Which is exactly what he wants: a holy war between Islam and Christianity.

342 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:34:43pm

re: #246 Ojoe

Why, it would ease the anal coal to diamond pressure that too many of us carry around all the time, it seems.

True equality is when everyone gets pissed on the same.

343 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:34:49pm

re: #315 WindUpBird

How dare you! Burning books and pissing all over others beliefs are 100% intelligent and insightful activities!

344 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:35:23pm

re: #341 palomino

So, we ignore this and pretend he never happened?
This is ridiculous.
You don’t ignore a cancer in the hopes it just goes away without harm.

345 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:35:36pm

re: #300 Ojoe

It is probably too late to diffuse this by little 100 book weenie roasts

Maybe, but it’s never to late to make things even worse. Your indifference is bizarre.

346 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:35:43pm

re: #342 b_sharp

True equality is when everyone gets pissed on the same.

Socializm….

347 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:36:56pm

re: #345 palomino

Indifference to this is what EVERYONE should be aiming for.

348 rwdflynavy  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:37:49pm

I like the Fark take on this guy…

Islamophobe pastor Terry Jones ran a church in Germany…until they kicked him out. You know you’re doing something wrong if even the Germans don’t want to burn books with you (spiegel.de)

349 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:38:24pm

re: #343 windsagio

How dare you! Burning books and pissing all over others beliefs are 100% intelligent and insightful activities!

Oh man I know rite?!?

I’m an edgy old man on the internet and I’m all clever and wow words have no power over me let’s disrepect all religions equally becase more hate and discord is really useful oh and there’s nothing like emulating the nazis to really bring us together

There are some dumb DUMB posters on LGF, what can you do except step around their piles of feces

Join the whig party

350 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:38:39pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

I think what that poster is saying is that is just the kind of response Jones wants, much like the Phelps cult loves to provoke angry responses to justify their garbage.

351 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:39:02pm

re: #339 Varek Raith
Sooo not what I said. I was responding to the post that we should not give them attention so as to starve the jerk of what he wants. I just said it was too late. Is that not true? Maybe we can pretend nobody noticed. How did those folks in Afghanistan find out about a retard with a total following of 50? So now if the media doesn’t follow they get accused of trying to hide something. The media does deserve some blame. And I do think it was unnescessary for some of our highest government officials to voice opionions. It would have gone away a lot quicker without it. I don’t think they caused the problem, the proximal cause is the original actor, always. I just think they made a bad tactical move giving him more seeming importance than he deserved.

352 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:39:48pm

re: #348 rwdflynavy

I like the Fark take on this guy…

rofl

353 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:40:02pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

I can still demonize disco, right???

That’s not a right, that’s a responsibility.

354 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:40:36pm

oooh look! Time lapsed night shot of the Boulder fire. It’s bad. Look at the white lights in the foreground - those appear to be vehicles - to get the perspective.

355 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:41:22pm

re: #354 Stanley Sea

looks like a Hollywood depiction of hell. That’s actually pretty cool.

356 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:41:36pm

re: #347 Ojoe

Indifference to this is what EVERYONE should be aiming for.

I don’t want to live in an America that doesn’t get pissed off by this kind of blatant asshattery….

357 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:41:57pm

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth
It is not reading in to say that you left out the most important qualifier. But if that is not what you meant, fine, I apologize. The fact is that this has been stated over and over by many posters here and elsewhere and it does suggest moral equivalence. I have been accused of same here and elsewhere even when I specifically stated I was not suggesting equivalence.

358 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:41:58pm

re: #351 Escaped Hillbilly

No.
He’s an anti American bigot that needs to be exposed to all. His actions, and those opposing Mosques across the country, are putting us in a terrible light. We need to strongly and publicly repudiate them.

359 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:42:09pm

re: #348 rwdflynavy

The Germans aren’t big on book-burning these days, since it didn’t work out so well for them last time.

360 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:42:39pm

On the topic of the original post.

Not only ignorant and insane, but proud of it. Oy vay iz mir.

361 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:42:44pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

mate.

you’re not being all that constructive.

362 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:43:05pm

re: #355 windsagio

looks like a Hollywood depiction of hell. That’s actually pretty cool.

Google map of it, w/evacuation info.

[Link: maps.google.com…]

363 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:43:22pm

re: #306 Varek Raith
How could I have forgotten? That was you, leading the boycotts and outraged protests after the ’ P-ss Christ ’ exhibit.//

364 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:44:16pm

re: #363 tradewind

How could I have forgotten? That was you, leading the boycotts and outraged protests after the ’ P-ss Christ ’ exhibit.//

LOL Piss Christ!

When was that? the 80’s???

365 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:44:37pm

re: #356 jamesfirecat

Trying so hard to resist saying that he’s covering for sympathy…


… oops

366 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:44:43pm

re: #341 palomino
Nah, I think he just wants his mug on the cover of People.
The way this thing is playing out, he might get it.

367 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:44:51pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

So, we ignore this and pretend he never happened?
This is ridiculous.
You don’t ignore a cancer in the hopes it just goes away without harm.

You’re misquoting me. How dare you!//

No, I don’t favor ignoring this at all. Like they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant. This and all similar crap should be exposed and condemned and ridiculed.

368 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:44:57pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

ps: Who censors ‘piss’?

369 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:45:21pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea
Hard to even remember, wasn’t it?
And after all the riots and burning cities…..///

370 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:45:36pm

re: #363 tradewind

outraged protests

no, just thinking this whole thing is a really dumb fucking idea.

371 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:45:49pm

re: #368 windsagio

ps: Who censors ‘piss’?

EXACTLY!!! reason for my lol

372 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:46:09pm

re: #249 tradewind

Heartsong, a reformed Baptist congregation It’s a large, predominately white, pretty affluent, Christian church with a huge facility.

Actually there was just such a story aired tonight about a Christian church welcoming and offering the Muslim community use their facility in Memphis.

On MSNBC…Keith Olberman no less. Oh the irony.//

373 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:46:12pm
374 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:46:14pm

re: #368 windsagio

ps: Who censors ‘piss’?

I thought we were supposed to give piss a chance.

375 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:46:18pm

re: #356 jamesfirecat

I want to live in an America that has left the dark ages behind.

This whole thing is dark age stuff, and the core of it is treating any book as special and privileged over other books, that’s what is going on here, and that’s why I think we should burn a whole passel of so called holy books.

376 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:46:43pm

re: #347 Ojoe

Indifference to this is what EVERYONE should be aiming for.

Indifference to provocative acts of desecration?

There’s a huge gulf between not giving a crackpot preacher too much air time and utter indifference on an issue like burning someone’s holy book.

377 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:47:09pm

re: #374 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I thought we were supposed to give piss a chance.

Oh that I could give more than one upding for that pun. But I’m only able to excrete 1.

378 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:47:48pm

re: #363 tradewind

How could I have forgotten? That was you, leading the boycotts and outraged protests after the ’ P-ss Christ ’ exhibit.//

Fine.
Have you led protests against the idiot Christians supporting the execution of gays in Africa? How about the Lord’s Resistance Army? The witch hunts going on in Africa.

I can play your stupid games too.

379 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:48:23pm

re: #376 palomino

I’ve had it with holy as applied to books

look at the problems it causes

380 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:48:24pm

re: #377 PT Barnum

Oh that I could give more than one upding for that pun. But I’m only able to excrete 1.

If you can only excrete #1 then you must be full of it.

381 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:48:29pm

re: #375 Ojoe

I want to live in an America that has left the dark ages behind.

This whole thing is dark age stuff, and the core of it is treating any book as special and privileged over other books, that’s what is going on here, and that’s why I think we should burn a whole passel of so called holy books.

How about we just have some respect for each other’s beliefs?

382 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:48:43pm

re: #358 Varek Raith
They cannot put us in any light if we give them no attention and no publicity. Nobody knew who he was. Now they all do. I just don’t think the President’s own staff need to weigh in. His own town is doing an excellent job of repudiating him. This clown wants to feel important, and now he is.

383 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:48:47pm

re: #344 Varek Raith
Actually, you do, sometimes. It’s called
’ watchful waiting ‘, and it’s coming to you in the new healthcare plan, big time.//

384 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:48:56pm

re: #380 wozzablog

If you can only excrete #1 then you must be full of it.

are you being fecesious?

385 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:49:43pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

Fine.
Have you led protests against the idiot Christians supporting the execution of gays in Africa? How about the Lord’s Resistance Army? The witch hunts going on in Africa.

I can play your stupid games too.

Varek, you are forgetting the ////////

386 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:49:47pm

re: #381 PT Barnum

No. no respect. make fun of them all. murder happens otherwise.

387 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:50:18pm

re: #375 Ojoe

I want to live in an America that has left the dark ages behind.

This whole thing is dark age stuff, and the core of it is treating any book as special and privileged over other books, that’s what is going on here, and that’s why I think we should burn a whole passel of so called holy books.

Fine.

You want to burn all holy books equally go ahead.

But when you burn just one holy book…

“That was mere foreplay. Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.” (German: “Das war Vorspiel nur. Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen.”)
- Heinrich Heine, Almansor (1821)

These people are scum.

America should stand up to them, America should make them have to grow their own food since no self respecting store owner should be wililng to do business with them.

These assholes need to be brought to light and punished for their behavior in a non violent and yet extremely lasting manner.

388 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:50:22pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

Varek, you are forgetting the ///

Of course.

389 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:50:23pm

re: #379 Ojoe

I’ve had it with holy as applied to books

look at the problems it causes

I agree that organized religion often sucks. But burning their sacred texts isn’t exactly the most constructive way to advance secularism.

390 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:50:44pm

re: #384 PT Barnum

are you being fecesious?

no, just making a shit pun.

391 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:51:30pm

Ay, ay, ay.
I’m out before I blow a gasket.

Later gators.
:)

392 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:51:41pm

re: #375 Ojoe

I want to live in an America that has left the dark ages behind.

This whole thing is dark age stuff, and the core of it is treating any book as special and privileged over other books, that’s what is going on here, and that’s why I think we should burn a whole passel of so called holy books.

I’m against burning any books personally. Singling out ‘holy’ books for burning seems… prejudiced, to say the least.

393 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:51:52pm

re: #381 PT Barnum

Thanks, I needed that. You’re right. I don’t want LGF to start sounding like some of those other sights. I will be first to apologize if I have offended. Can we discuss without name calling?

394 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:51:55pm

re: #390 wozzablog

no, just making a shit pun.

You and Billy Rubin, huh?

(if you’re not familiar with the pun, bilirubin is what makes shit brown)

395 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:51:57pm

re: #389 palomino

I agree that organized religion often sucks. But burning their sacred texts isn’t exactly the most constructive way to advance secularism.

I think you are wasting your breath.

396 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:52:10pm

Aww Jebus! Not a “shit pun” thread. I am so tired of this crap.

397 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:52:13pm

re: #386 Ojoe

No. no respect. make fun of them all. murder happens otherwise.

No not laughed at… not made fun of SHUNNED there is nothing humerous about their blatant bigotry.

398 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:52:49pm

re: #387 jamesfirecat

Yes they are scum

399 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:53:29pm

re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth

Aww Jebus! Not a “shit pun” thread. I am so tired of this crap.

SB, did you hear about the grammar expert who had a colostomy and ended up with a semi-colon?

400 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:53:42pm

re: #397 jamesfirecat

Make fun of ALL belief systems is what I was saying.

401 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:54:07pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

I’m more outraged about the ongoing genocide that’s never been adequately addressed in Darfur.
It’s a big world, full of horrors with no solutions.

402 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:54:11pm

re: #387 jamesfirecat

Fine.

You want to burn all holy books equally go ahead.

But when you burn just one holy book…

“That was mere foreplay. Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.” (German: “Das war Vorspiel nur. Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen.”)
- Heinrich Heine, Almansor (1821)

These people are scum.

America should stand up to them, America should make them have to grow their own food since no self respecting store owner should be wililng to do business with them.

These assholes need to be brought to light and punished for their behavior in a non violent and yet extremely lasting manner.

The problem is that at one time the majority of americans would agree with you. Now they are climbing on busses to help.

403 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:54:12pm

re: #257 Ojoe

Yes but this is a connected world, and US soldiers are overseas too.

True, but there’s a limited amount we can do about that.

404 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:54:19pm

re: #372 blueraven

Actually there was just such a story aired tonight about a Christian church welcoming and offering the Muslim community use their facility in Memphis.

On MSNBC…Keith Olberman no less. Oh the irony.//

I sure hope Charles hasn’t already replace the irony meter that exploded earlier this evening. This might have cost him a second one.

405 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:54:37pm

re: #400 Ojoe

Make fun of ALL belief systems is what I was saying.

Yes nobody should believe anything.//

406 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:54:41pm

re: #263 palomino

Hold on there. Poly slacks are making a comeback. New synthetic technologies have led to fabrics and styles that have nothing in common with that 70s shit.

And there’s no ironing!

Still flammable, though, right?

407 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:55:16pm

re: #400 Ojoe

Make fun of ALL belief systems is what I was saying.

I absolutely agree. Just do it without burning books, is what I am saying.

408 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:55:17pm

re: #381 PT Barnum
I don’t even care if we respect each others beliefs, as long as we mind our manners.

409 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:55:30pm

re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist

and they still chafe.

410 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:55:46pm

re: #405 Petero1818

Yes nobody should believe anything.//

Not to the point of violence anyway.

411 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:56:01pm

re: #408 tradewind

I don’t even care if we respect each others beliefs, as long as we mind our manners.

Exactly. What the hell is wrong with leaving each other the hell alone?

412 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:56:21pm

re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist

Still flammable, though, right?

Everything is flamable under the right conditions.

413 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:56:33pm

re: #400 Ojoe

Make fun of ALL belief systems is what I was saying.

You can make fun of a belief system and that’s fine (if people didn’t want to have their belief’s made fun of they shouldn’t have such silly beliefs (like that genuine thirty party has a chance at becoming a national movement in American Politics ZING!) (I kid cause I love)) but the people who do this, they don’t need to be granted any sort of camouflage by some people “good naturedly burning books” they need to be exposed and shunned.

414 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:57:12pm

re: #410 Ojoe

Not to the point of violence anyway.

One could say that about anything….It is a hollow point.

415 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:57:17pm

re: #412 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Everything is flamable under the right conditions.


Wasn’t that an old Ray Stevens song?

Everything is flammable
in it’s own way.

416 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:57:40pm

re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist

Still flammable, though, right?

All I can say is David Lindley. Mr. Polyester

417 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:57:56pm

re: #405 Petero1818

Yes nobody should believe anything.//

I believe I’ll have another beer.

418 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:58:00pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

Oh man I know rite?!?

I’m an edgy old man on the internet and I’m all clever and wow words have no power over me let’s disrepect all religions equally becase more hate and discord is really useful oh and there’s nothing like emulating the nazis to really bring us together

There are some dumb DUMB posters on LGF, what can you do except step around their piles of feces

Join the whig party

Personally, I’d like to see all religions just disappear. Then perhaps the things we fight about would be more tractable by reason and discourse.

419 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:58:02pm

re: #402 PT Barnum
Actually America has a long tradition of book burning. So the support “pastor” Jones is getting is not surprising. But it is alarming that we seem to be moving backward.

420 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:58:23pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

Varek, you are forgetting the ///

touche

421 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:58:40pm

re: #418 b_sharp

Personally, I’d like to see all religions just disappear. Then perhaps the things we fight about would be more tractable by reason and discourse.

I laughed :D

Hate to tell ya, but people aren’t built that way.

There’ll always be something.

422 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:59:29pm

re: #419 Escaped Hillbilly

Actually America has a long tradition of book burning. So the support “pastor” Jones is getting is not surprising. But it is alarming that we seem to be moving backward.

One of the reasons I begged Mrs. Barnum for a nook for our anniversary (The E-reader you filthy minded people). Best present I ever got. However, my expenditures on reading material have gone up exponentially. It’s just too easy to hear about an interesting book and order it right there off my phone.

423 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 5:59:43pm

re: #397 jamesfirecat
And in a thigh-slapping fracturing of the lexicon…….

424 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:00:23pm

re: #386 Ojoe

No. no respect. make fun of them all. murder happens otherwise.

Respect leads to Murder?

Okay.

You’ve jumped the shark, while wearing some idiotic wig.

Go Big Bull Moose!

425 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:00:33pm

re: #316 Petero1818

Most Jews are likely at Erev Rosh Hashana dinner right now (except for me as I am sick lying in bed while my family celebrates at my Mother’s home - good news is they are bringing me chicken soup). So I will give the best answer I can.

The Torah is generally accepted to be the word of God as written by Moses. The book itself is considered holy and when taken out of circulation, Torahs are burried rather than thrown out.

That said, over the last few thousands of years, as you can imagine, many Torahs have been destroyed and burned. While it is of course viewed as an abhorrent act, it has never resulted in riots, other than those that rounded up the Jews to kill them,

Huh. I’m guessing that burning the Talmud in the right neighborhood would get you one hell of riot.

Pastor Jones has apparently picked the wrong neighborhood for that.

My only point here is, no one is actually worried about violence from American Muslims. American Muslims are acting like Americans.

Now, are some whipped-up Muslim hicks in the Third World going to react violently? Probably. BUT AMERICAN MUSLIMS CAN’T DO SHIT ABOUT THAT.

426 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:00:39pm

re: #421 windsagio

I laughed :D

Hate to tell ya, but people aren’t built that way.

There’ll always be something.

There’s some science to show that belief in God (whatever form that may take) was necessary for humans to form societies. Without the Big (insert your preference here) upstairs to watch over us, nobody had any motivation to trod the straight and narrow.

427 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:01:03pm

re: #418 b_sharp

Personally, I’d like to see all religions just disappear. Then perhaps the things we fight about would be more tractable by reason and discourse.

Humans are irrational. Religion is simply the most organised form of that irrationality. Reason and discourse barely enter into our discussions now, even in this most enlightened of ages, even the things that religion barely touches on.

428 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:01:10pm

re: #417 PT Barnum

I believe I’ll have another beer.

Everybody needs to believe in something…

429 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:01:47pm

re: #422 PT Barnum
Oh no, hadn’t thought of that. A buddy of mine had just about sold me on buying a Kindle or other reader to take on deployments. But I would go broke if I could buy any book I wanted that easily. Now I don’t know what to do.

430 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:01:51pm

re: #413 jamesfirecat

OK on the expose/shun

Eventually people will not care about “holy” books the way that some do now, in the wrong way….

equal incineration for all problem causing books I say

not every last copy at all

but humanity needs to relax about this.

BBL

431 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:01:52pm

re: #426 PT Barnum

not really on point :p

Utopian ‘if religion just goes away we’ll all suddenly turn rational!’ is magical thinking at best :P

432 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:01:53pm

re: #422 PT Barnum

One of the reasons I begged Mrs. Barnum for a nook for our anniversary (The E-reader you filthy minded people). Best present I ever got. However, my expenditures on reading material have gone up exponentially. It’s just too easy to hear about an interesting book and order it right there off my phone.

I have found the same thing since I have had my Kindle. But I suppose nothing bad ever came from reading. Unless of course the book you are reading is a flaming Koran.//

433 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:02:04pm

re: #347 Ojoe

Indifference to this is what EVERYONE should be aiming for.

I can’t get there. Sorry.

434 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:02:09pm

re: #395 Petero1818

I think you are wasting your breath.

That happens a lot here.

435 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:02:26pm
436 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:02:59pm

re: #386 Ojoe

No. no respect. make fun of them all. murder happens otherwise.

So basically if you abuse five people, that means you’ve abused none, because you abused them all equally

Got it, now we know where you’re coming from

437 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:11pm

re: #418 b_sharp

Personally, I’d like to see all religions just disappear. Then perhaps the things we fight about would be more tractable by reason and discourse.

Or mud wrestling. We could always decide to resolve conflicts with nekkid mud wrestling.

438 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:19pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

LOL Piss Christ!

When was that? the 80’s???

It will never be forgotten.

439 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:20pm

re: #435 Dark_Falcon

you are so messed sometimes ;P

440 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:33pm

This Quran burning thing is way out of control. The anti-Muslim hysteria is one thing but the coverage this story has gotten is way out of proportion. The overblown coverage is actually worse than the burning. 50 or so douchebags in some hick church located in rural Florida are going to blaspheme. I really don’t think it’s worth the international coverage.

441 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:36pm

re: #430 Ojoe

OK on the expose/shun

Eventually people will not care about “holy” books the way that some do now, in the wrong way…

equal incineration for all problem causing books I say

not every last copy at all

but humanity needs to relax about this.

BBL

FUCK NO!

Humanity does not need to relax about blatant bigotry.

If it wasn’t burning books these guys would find some other button to push like having hog races around a Mosque.

I care less about their actions and more about their obvious motivations.

442 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:41pm

re: #438 SanFranciscoZionist

Art is evil, you know that!

443 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:44pm

re: #433 SanFranciscoZionist

I can’t get there. Sorry.

This guy is fucked, I’m so creeped out by what he’s saying right now

444 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:49pm

re: #369 tradewind

Hard to even remember, wasn’t it?
And after all the riots and burning cities…///

And the decades-long whining…

445 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:03:57pm

re: #438 SanFranciscoZionist

It will never be forgotten.

Politics!

446 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:04:08pm

re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist

Still flammable, though, right?

Just don’t freebase or barbecue while wearing.

447 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:04:39pm

re: #431 windsagio

not really on point :p

Utopian ‘if religion just goes away we’ll all suddenly turn rational!’ is magical thinking at best :P

That’s what dumbfuck athiests who live in their momma’s basements think, yeah

448 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:04:47pm

re: #383 tradewind

Actually, you do, sometimes. It’s called
’ watchful waiting ‘, and it’s coming to you in the new healthcare plan, big time.//

Which ‘healthcare plan’ is that? A real one, or the one that’s been made up by Sarah Palin?

449 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:05:11pm

re: #409 Petero1818

and they still chafe.

Chafing is a thing of the past. The new polys are like butter.

450 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:05:28pm

Travelling again, connected to an ethernet cable stretched across the kitchen. I’ll be erratic for a while. ‘Nite, all.

451 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:05:40pm

re: #432 Petero1818

I have found the same thing since I have had my Kindle. But I suppose nothing bad ever came from reading. Unless of course the book you are reading is a flaming Koran.//


I think I ate a flaming koran at Disney World.

452 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:05:53pm

re: #437 Slumbering Behemoth

Or mud wrestling. We could always decide to resolve conflicts with nekkid mud wrestling.

Yeah, but Micheal Moore and Ann Coulter? No thanks.

453 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:05:57pm

re: #418 b_sharp

Personally, I’d like to see all religions just disappear. Then perhaps the things we fight about would be more tractable by reason and discourse.

yeah, we’ll fight over race instead

Whoops, can’t make race disappear!

454 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:06:03pm

re: #449 palomino

Chafing is a thing of the past. The new polys are like butter.

I’m not really that into wearing butter, so I don’t really get the comparison.

455 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:06:44pm

re: #450 Decatur Deb

Travelling again, connected to an ethernet cable stretched across the kitchen. I’ll be erratic for a while. ‘Nite, all.

I’m erratic continuously.

456 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:16pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

yeah, we’ll fight over race instead

Whoops, can’t make race disappear!

Sure we can….. cross pollination over time……… I’ve done my share.

457 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:23pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

yeah, we’ll fight over race instead

Whoops, can’t make race disappear!

Well, you can. It just takes a while and some Barry White music.

458 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:33pm

re: #429 Escaped Hillbilly

Oh no, hadn’t thought of that. A buddy of mine had just about sold me on buying a Kindle or other reader to take on deployments. But I would go broke if I could buy any book I wanted that easily. Now I don’t know what to do.

Just read lots of classics. They run 2 or 3 bucks a pop.

459 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:35pm

re: #454 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’m not really that into wearing butter, so I don’t really get the comparison.

I heard a young girl complaining to another friend, “I just can’t get the BO smell out!”

460 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:38pm

Hay guys I am so edgy I am beyond religion let’s take a big steaming dump all over someone’s community and belief system, that’s very productive and will surely lead to enlightened thinking

461 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:38pm

re: #452 PT Barnum

Yeah, but Micheal Moore and Ann Coulter? No thanks.

That’s what proxies are for. No one would allow the scenario above to happen.

462 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:43pm

re: #425 SanFranciscoZionist

My only point here is, no one is actually worried about violence from American Muslims

Unless the CIA and FBI , along with Homeland Security, are ’ no one ‘.
They seem to be more worried about internal attacks than those from overseas, according to their memos.

463 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:43pm

re: #425 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh. I’m guessing that burning the Talmud in the right neighborhood would get you one hell of riot.

Pastor Jones has apparently picked the wrong neighborhood for that.

My only point here is, no one is actually worried about violence from American Muslims. American Muslims are acting like Americans.

Now, are some whipped-up Muslim hicks in the Third World going to react violently? Probably. BUT AMERICAN MUSLIMS CAN’T DO SHIT ABOUT THAT.

In a way, i think its a case of reverse culture shock. Muslims in Afghanistan and Indonesia are used to the government simply shutting down political rallies they don’t like. So if the rally goes forward, either the government approves or someone got his palm greased. The concept of an honest government bound by its Constitution from shutting down things it disagrees with is not something they’re used to.

464 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:07:52pm

re: #454 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’m not really that into wearing butter, so I don’t really get the comparison.


Soft, think soft. Plus velvety and delicious.

465 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:08:03pm

re: #456 Mr Pancakes

Sure we can… cross pollination over time… I’ve done my share.

Well, I don’t exactly have 100,000 years to wait for everyone to be same shade of iced latte ;-)

466 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:08:12pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

yeah, we’ll fight over race instead

Whoops, can’t make race disappear!

Really determined interbreeding will reduce it, though.

467 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:08:19pm

re: #456 Mr Pancakes

re: #457 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Synchronicity!

There’s a ton of things we can divide ourselves over, religion is a minor point :p

468 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:08:42pm

re: #460 WindUpBird

Hay guys I am so edgy I am beyond religion let’s take a big steaming dump all over someone’s community and belief system, that’s very productive and will surely lead to enlightened thinking

Yes, but that Terry Jones fuck deserved it!

469 webevintage  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:08:47pm

re: #422 PT Barnum

One of the reasons I begged Mrs. Barnum for a nook for our anniversary (The E-reader you filthy minded people). Best present I ever got. However, my expenditures on reading material have gone up exponentially. It’s just too easy to hear about an interesting book and order it right there off my phone.

I’ve found that if I download a sample first and read it…sometimes I decide not to buy the book.
I really, really like the sample option.
I also have a horrible memory so having samples sitting there reminds me that I want to read that book at some point.
Yeah, I’m spending more money on books then I did before.

470 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:09:33pm

re: #467 windsagio

re: #457 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Synchronicity!

There’s a ton of things we can divide ourselves over, religion is a minor point :p

Now what we need to hunt down are those damned folks who don’t seem to understand proper turn signal usage. They will suffer a slow death.

471 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:09:40pm

re: #462 tradewind

Unless the CIA and FBI , along with Homeland Security, are ’ no one ‘.
They seem to be more worried about internal attacks than those from overseas, according to their memos.

Let me restate that. No one actually thinks there will be rioting and violence by American Muslims over this Koran-burning, while there well may be such violence in, say, North Africa, or Afghanistan.

472 Nervous Norvous  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:09:53pm

re: #454 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’m not really that into wearing butter, so I don’t really get the comparison.

Like Buttah

473 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:09:59pm

re: #465 WindUpBird

Well, I don’t exactly have 100,000 years to wait for everyone to be same shade of iced latte ;-)

Think 500 years, and butterscotch pudding.

474 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:04pm

re: #439 windsagio

you are so messed sometimes ;P

Why the downdings? That sort of abuse does happen in Chicago’s political culture. And it was not a slam at Obama, who has never engaged in such practices.

475 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:10pm

re: #451 Escaped Hillbilly

No that was a $12 Churro

476 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:18pm

re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist

Really determined interbreeding will reduce it, though.

it will, but we still have a million different ways for people to balkanize themselves :P

477 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:28pm

re: #468 Mr Pancakes

Yes, but that Terry Jones fuck deserved it!

Wasn’t talking about Terry Jones

478 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:31pm

re: #465 WindUpBird

Well, I don’t exactly have 100,000 years to wait for everyone to be same shade of iced latte ;-)

We’re working on your schedule now?

479 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:35pm

re: #392 windsagio

I’m against burning any books personally. Singling out ‘holy’ books for burning seems… prejudiced, to say the least.

Burning books is burning what it means to be human. Being able to preserve ideas for later generations has allowed us to build knowledge and with it civilization.

Burning specific books is symbolism that some ideas, and the people who hold them, are worth less than the rest of us.

That said, symbolism can be viewed for what it is, instead of being reified.

480 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:10:44pm

re: #476 WindUpBird

it will, but we still have a million different ways for people to balkanize themselves :P

I’m still up for the really determined interbreeding!

481 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:00pm

re: #473 Decatur Deb

Think 500 years, and butterscotch pudding.

Will the men of the future truly be this delicious? *_*

482 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:05pm

re: #471 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, from your lips. Hope you are right.
If we have another incident ( Ft Hood, DTW airport, etc) and the koran burning is cited, it will just be awful.

483 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:07pm

re: #477 WindUpBird

Wasn’t talking about Terry Jones

DUH

484 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:12pm

OK. Gotta get going.

Shana tova.

485 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:22pm

re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m still up for the really determined interbreeding!

Motivated and empowered!

486 Kragar  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:23pm

re: #480 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m still up for the really determined interbreeding!

Sometimes 2 or 3 at a time even.

487 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:23pm

re: #474 Dark_Falcon

Just boggles my mind that you’d go there of all places.

“Chicago-style politics” is up there with “SEIU thugs” in reflexive hater crap.

488 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:37pm

it’s 2:10am and i’m still trying to get the sports club paperwork done.

joy.

489 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:11:44pm

Wouldn’t it be fun, and just, and right, if the same companies who dumped their ad contracts on the Glenn Beck clown hour did the same, for equally important reasons, to “Time” magazine over its most recent cover?

Not gonna happen, though. Moonbats love hatin’ on Israel.

490 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:12:43pm

re: #489 Cato the Elder

it is funny that people think Time is a leftwing rag.

Lol, Luce.

491 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:12:55pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

yeah, we’ll fight over race instead

Whoops, can’t make race disappear!

Stephen Colbert has a plan for that, we all just have to wear white bandages and goggles like the Invisible Man….

492 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:13:30pm

re: #475 Petero1818
Oh.
Funny synchronicity…we made chili tonight and used a pepper from my new pepper plant. My son picked his out because he doesn’t like too much heat. Then made the mistake of wiping his eye. Oopsy. Think we could hope for something like for mister burn the Koran? I don’t want him to actually die…just…a little juice in the eye kinda thing?

493 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:13:57pm

re: #491 jamesfirecat

Stephen Colbert has a plan for that, we all just have to wear white bandages and goggles like the Invisible Man…

And if I want green bandages?

494 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:14:34pm

re: #493 Petero1818

Just wait until the Neurodiverse come for us!!!

495 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:16:07pm

re: #490 windsagio

it is funny that people think Time is a leftwing rag.

Lol, Luce.

What’s even funnier is anyone taking your comments seriously.

496 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:16:58pm

re: #482 tradewind
It would be awful whether or not this book burning thing was mentioned. But I do see a potential for a constant back and forth “they started it” feud along the lines of the Ruby Ridge conspiracy theory.

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:17:07pm

re: #495 Cato the Elder

What’s even funnier is anyone taking your comments seriously.

hey because I guess Henry Luce was a democrat rite?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

498 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:17:27pm

re: #495 Cato the Elder

Seriously tho’, Henry Luce would be rolling in his grave to hear his magazine described the way you’re going.

499 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:17:53pm

re: #474 Dark_Falcon

Why the downdings? That sort of abuse does happen in Chicago’s political culture. And it was not a slam at Obama, who has never engaged in such practices.

Jokes about Chicago being corrupt are like jokes about Detroit being violent, not very funny unless taken out outrageous proportions…

500 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:17:59pm

re: #497 WindUpBird

501 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:18:16pm

re: #487 windsagio

Just boggles my mind that you’d go there of all places.

“Chicago-style politics” is up there with “SEIU thugs” in reflexive hater crap.

Remember, Wind, that I was born and raised in Chicago, and I’ve lived in Cook County my whole life. I’ve been taking potshots at Chicago’s political culture since the Hired Truck Scandal, long before I joined LGF. It’s not really about Obama, since he didn’t engage in the kind of shenanigans I’m talking about. I understand what you’re saying Wind, but I’m a local and its different for me.

502 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:18:29pm

re: #492 Escaped Hillbilly

Ha, my daughter broke her glow stick bracelet and it squirted in her eye.

503 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:18:35pm

re: #495 Cato the Elder

What’s even funnier is anyone taking your comments seriously.

The problem cato, is you need to say it, not spray it. Telling someone they’re not taken seriously over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again when they obviously are a contributing member of this community makes you look like a weepy old penis

So please stop, you’re embarassing yourself.

504 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:18:41pm

re: #494 windsagio

Just wait until the Neurodiverse come for us!!!

I live in Canada. I bet that has legs here. Or at least something like legs that may or may not be used for walking or something I may “call” walking but may be viewed or experienced by others as something entirely……oh fuck it. /

505 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:18:49pm

re: #501 Dark_Falcon

Fair enough, but I never mentioned Obama :p

506 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:19:09pm

re: #498 windsagio

Seriously tho’, Henry Luce would be rolling in his grave to hear his magazine described the way you’re going.

“Time” is not owned, managed, or edited by a man now dead these 43 years.

Try to be lucid.

507 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:19:26pm

re: #487 windsagio
Maybe in your mind. But when most people hear ’ Chicago-style politics ’ , they think Eliot Ness and his Untouchables vs Capone , not Crips vs. Bloods.

508 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:19:37pm

re: #501 Dark_Falcon

Do you think Rahm will be the next Mayor?

509 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:20:34pm

re: #506 Cato the Elder

Well the pun was okay anyways.

510 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:21:33pm

re: #489 Cato the Elder

Riiight. Terrorist assholes regularly launch rockets at Israeli elementary schools while demanding Israel is wiped off the map, and it’s Israel that doesn’t care about peace.

Idiots.

511 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:21:57pm

re: #448 SanFranciscoZionist

Which ‘healthcare plan’ is that? A real one, or the one that’s been made up by Sarah Palin?

Must be the Palin version, since all preventative care Dr visits…physicals and such, will be 100% covered. This should help detect cancers earlier and improve survival rates. In theory, it will also save money due to less expensive treatment options for early stage cancers.

512 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:22:19pm

re: #505 windsagio

Fair enough, but I never mentioned Obama :p

Fair enough. It’s just the meme you brought up is normally trotted out by ODS sufferers and I wanted to make clear I wasn’t one of them. Call it pre-emptive fortification. :)

513 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:22:27pm

re: #502 prairiefire
Flush it with lots of water. No telling what kind of toxic crap the ChiComs put in those toys./
/Only half sarc./

514 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:22:38pm

Does anyone think that the “Time” cover this week does not represent a straight-up leftist viewpoint?

Got news for you. Own it, moonbats.

515 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:22:40pm

re: #512 Dark_Falcon

Works for me :p

516 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:23:08pm

re: #500 windsagio

517 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:23:24pm

re: #421 windsagio

I laughed :D

Hate to tell ya, but people aren’t built that way.

There’ll always be something.

Religion is unique in its ability to gather willing and zealous adherents. And, no humans are not inherently irrational any more than they are rational, both need to be developed. Without religion, although the inherent tribalism that is in humans cannot be removed, it can be redirected more easily. Note the lack of absolutes in my comment.

518 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:23:33pm

re: #514 Cato the Elder

You’d think I’d love a good anti-Israel cover, but I still want nothing to do with Time :p

519 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:24:35pm

re: #517 b_sharp

It shocks me that you think that way. A true zealot.

520 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:24:52pm

re: #517 b_sharp

Religion is unique in its ability to gather willing and zealous adherents. And, no humans are not inherently irrational any more than they are rational, both need to be developed. Without religion, although the inherent tribalism that is in humans cannot be removed, it can be redirected more easily. Note the lack of absolutes in my comment.


This is athiest gibberish

521 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:24:53pm

re: #448 SanFranciscoZionist
It’s sad that people have their panties in a wad over that comment. ’ Actually, watchful waiting ’ is a treatment modality that is used in oncology for certain tumors ( i.e. early prostate) that are contained, and where surgery may not be the immediate choice, especially in more elderly people whose tumors grow slowly and are less likely to kill them. The sarc was that it will surely be used more often now.

522 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:24:53pm

re: #508 prairiefire

Do you think Rahm will be the next Mayor?

Maybe. It will be a competitive primary, and we need to wait a little bit and see who emerges as a candidate. My parents still live in Chicago, so my father will, for a rarity for my family, likely vote for a Democrat (since no Republican could win).

523 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:25:01pm

re: #502 prairiefire
Can she see in the dark now?
Seriously though, must have hurt..she’s ok right? You would have said otherwise.
(My son is almost grown man. Would never laugh at a kid in pain.)

524 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:25:28pm

re: #514 Cato the Elder

Does anyone think that the “Time” cover this week does not represent a straight-up leftist viewpoint?

Got news for you. Own it, moonbats.

What’s on it… or do you have a link… I went to their website but now cover I can see.

525 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:25:35pm

re: #520 WindUpBird

shh; you’re gonna make people think you actually ascribe to a religion :p

526 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:25:35pm

re: #518 windsagio

You’d think I’d love a good anti-Israel cover, but I still want nothing to do with Time :p

It makes for fantastic birdcage liners

was that TMI

527 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:26:02pm

re: #526 WindUpBird

It makes for fantastic birdcage liners

was that TMI

Lol, I thought I knew all the crap you were into!

528 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:26:25pm

re: #514 Cato the Elder

Can I amend that to far-leftist? We do have left-of-center posters here who call bullshit when they see idiotic garbage like that Time Magazine cover.

529 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:26:42pm

re: #525 windsagio

shh; you’re gonna make people think you actually ascribe to a religion :p

I do!

530 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:27:03pm

re: #474 Dark_Falcon

Why the downdings? That sort of abuse does happen in Chicago’s political culture. And it was not a slam at Obama, who has never engaged in such practices.

Go easy on DF, he’s a good guy and is trying his best. I know him and he is trying until it hurts. It just going to take a lot more time. I like DF and want him to stick around here until he is too old to type.

531 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:27:13pm

re: #527 windsagio

Lol, I thought I knew all the crap you were into!

You wouldn’t believe how hard it was to get that thing into the garage

532 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:27:35pm

By the way… I went ahead a splurged, spent a little money I made yesterday doing some emergency programming for Kaiser, and I bought a soon to be discontinued Ipod Touch 8 gig, 2nd Generation… I’ve never had any of the Touch line or Iphones or Ipads… I’m playing with this thing right now…

Steve Jobs is a god… I love it.

533 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:27:44pm

re: #511 blueraven
Here’s what I’ve seen as a result of the new health care plan so far: my premiums just went up about 15%. Blue Cross/Blue Shield isn’t taking any chances, the cowards.

534 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:28:00pm

re: #501 Dark_Falcon

Remember, Wind, that I was born and raised in Chicago, and I’ve lived in Cook County my whole life. I’ve been taking potshots at Chicago’s political culture since the Hired Truck Scandal, long before I joined LGF. It’s not really about Obama, since he didn’t engage in the kind of shenanigans I’m talking about. I understand what you’re saying Wind, but I’m a local and its different for me.

Sorry wasn’t aware of the fact that you were from there, that sort of does a lot to mitigate it, in the sense of its always okay to mock your own home town.

Tell you what I’ll give you some up dings to make up for it if you can. tell me, Where’s the Office of the Assessor of Cook County?

535 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:28:15pm

re: #513 tradewind

Flush it with lots of water. No telling what kind of toxic crap the ChiComs put in those toys./
/Only half sarc./

Thanks, yes we did. It was an “I told you so moment”, only I didn’t say I told you so.
I hate those things.

536 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:28:25pm

re: #529 WindUpBird

Always makes me think of this, btw:

537 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:29:08pm

re: #517 b_sharp

Unique? Maybe if you forget nationalism, and war itself.

538 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:30:17pm

re: #524 Walter L. Newton

What’s on it… or do you have a link… I went to their website but now cover I can see.

Here. You owe me a beer.

539 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:30:24pm

re: #534 jamesfirecat

Sorry wasn’t aware of the fact that you were from there, that sort of does a lot to mitigate it, in the sense of its always okay to mock your own home town.

Tell you what I’ll give you some up dings to make up for it if you can. tell me, Where’s the Office of the Assessor of Cook County?

Are you on a Mission from God? Here take this Challah. I have no white bread.

540 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:30:42pm

re: #533 tradewind

Here’s what I’ve seen as a result of the new health care plan so far: my premiums just went up about 15%. Blue Cross/Blue Shield isn’t taking any chances, the cowards.

Ahem


[Link: www.whitehouse.gov…]

541 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:31:11pm

re: #538 Slumbering Behemoth

Here. You owe me a beer.

Ahh, that sucks.

542 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:31:37pm

re: #514 Cato the Elder

Does anyone think that the “Time” cover this week does not represent a straight-up leftist viewpoint?

Got news for you. Own it, moonbats.


I don’t know if that one alone does. Certainly aligns with left viewpoint. Check out Jul 2010 cover featuring the pope. If they are anti Israel, they are also anti Rome. I have gotten the impression they are left leaning for some time.

543 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:31:39pm

re: #500 windsagio

re: #504 Petero1818

I live in Canada. I bet that has legs here. Or at least something like legs that may or may not be used for walking or something I may “call” walking but may be viewed or experienced by others as something entirely…oh fuck it. /

Where in canada? I’ve always wanted to see Montreal

544 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:31:57pm

re: #538 Slumbering Behemoth

Here. You owe me a beer.

Wow, that’s a kick in the balls.

545 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:32:19pm

re: #538 Slumbering Behemoth

Here. You owe me a beer.

Ok… thanks… what’s leftist about that?

546 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:32:30pm

re: #530 Reginald Perrin

I’m updinging as hard as I can!
LOL!
*waves at the Lizards*

547 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:32:31pm

re: #533 tradewind

Here’s what I’ve seen as a result of the new health care plan so far: my premiums just went up about 15%. Blue Cross/Blue Shield isn’t taking any chances, the cowards.

heh. some californians with that firm saw theirs go up 39% before the Obama plan came in.

maybe the new plan meliorated your rise……

548 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:32:35pm

re: #543 WindUpBird

re: #504 Petero1818

Where in canada? I’ve always wanted to see Montreal

Go. to. Montreal!

549 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:32:37pm

re: #503 WindUpBird

The problem cato, is you need to say it, not spray it. Telling someone they’re not taken seriously over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again when they obviously are a contributing member of this community makes you look like a weepy old penis

So please stop, you’re embarassing yourself.

What’s the genesis of this whole Cato vs. WindUp ongoing kerfuffle? Can someone describe it in 140 characters or less?

550 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:32:48pm

re: #543 WindUpBird

I am in Toronto. But I went to University many moons ago in Montreal and it is a great Town.

551 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:33:17pm

Imam Rauf is on the Larry King show with Soledad O’Brian.

552 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:33:23pm

re: #534 jamesfirecat

Sorry wasn’t aware of the fact that you were from there, that sort of does a lot to mitigate it, in the sense of its always okay to mock your own home town.

Tell you what I’ll give you some up dings to make up for it if you can. tell me, Where’s the Office of the Assessor of Cook County?

The main office is at the Daley Center, downtown, but all Cook County Courthouses have satellite offices.

553 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:33:35pm

re: #524 Walter L. Newton

What’s on it… or do you have a link… I went to their website but now cover I can see.

This shite.

It’s for sale, if you want it for your wall.

554 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:33:54pm

They’re playing his quote about “Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.”

555 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:33:55pm

re: #552 Dark_Falcon

The main office is at the Daley Center, downtown, but all Cook County Courthouses have satellite offices.

I’m surprised you didn’t tell me “Down the hall, turn right, take the elevator to 1102.”

556 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:34:09pm

re: #548 prairiefire

Go. to. Montreal!

Ideally when Voivod or Gorguts are playing *_*

557 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:34:24pm

re: #540 jamesfirecat

Ahem

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov…]

Can’t fuck with the predetermined screw over.

558 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:34:36pm

re: #533 tradewind

Mine went up 19%, the previous proposed rate increase was, IIRC, 38%.

559 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:36:14pm

re: #533 tradewind

Here’s what I’ve seen as a result of the new health care plan so far: my premiums just went up about 15%. Blue Cross/Blue Shield isn’t taking any chances, the cowards.

Sorry that flat out predates the medical bill. Blue Cross went for a 40% increase and got a state ordered forensic accounting audit. Turns out the independent auditor backed a 13% raise. When Arnie proposed a tax on employers or mandatory buy in for employees, he canceled the scheduled annual cola pay raises. When that failed to pass he retroactively paid the raises.

560 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:36:35pm

re: #556 WindUpBird

Ideally when Voivod or Gorguts are playing *_*

That would be my only motivation to go there.

561 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:36:45pm

re: #549 palomino

What’s the genesis of this whole Cato vs. WindUp ongoing kerfuffle? Can someone describe it in 140 characters or less?

There is really no kerfluffle with me, Cato’s thing is with Windsagio, and Cato says this same “You don’t count” thing about Windsagio weekly if not daily, apparently he really hates emoticons and people who don’t communicate exactly like him

562 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:36:48pm

re: #549 palomino

What’s the genesis of this whole Cato vs. WindUp ongoing kerfuffle? Can someone describe it in 140 characters or less?

I have nothing against WUB. It’s his witless buddy who nerves me.

Dumbass jester vs. connoisseur of fools. You decide who’s who.

563 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:37:17pm

re: #426 PT Barnum

There’s some science to show that belief in God (whatever form that may take) was necessary for humans to form societies. Without the Big (insert your preference here) upstairs to watch over us, nobody had any motivation to trod the straight and narrow.

The belief in a ‘god’ starts quite young when we view our parents as all knowing and all powerful. When we’re that young it is essential to our survival to follow instructions without question.

As our communities grew to sizes beyond our ability to track genetic relations and debts, we needed to develop practices that would diminish social friction. Religion gave us a method of codifying and enforcing those conventions. It also gave us explanations for events that we didn’t understand, had no control over and/or feared.

We’ve gone beyond those needs.

564 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:37:20pm

re: #560 Mr Pancakes

That would be my only motivation to go there.

The beer is also excellent

Beer and awesome architecture and good food and technical death metal, my kind of town

565 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:37:47pm

re: #546 Floral Giraffe

I’m updinging as hard as I can!
LOL!
*waves at the Lizards*

Hi you! Thanks for the email…Hope today finds you well..

566 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:37:54pm

re: #562 Cato the Elder

>>

567 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:37:56pm

Well, OBL was made in the USA.

Thanks, in part, to Saint Reagan and the Bush crime family.

568 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:37:57pm

re: #545 Walter L. Newton

Here’s the article in question. This links to Yahoo, but it is the same story that appears in Time.

569 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:38:05pm

re: #540 jamesfirecat
Sonofabitch! And I was so sure that the WH website would be all about an apology tour for causing the rate increase!
I guess they’ve used up their entire ration over our sins abroad./

570 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:38:53pm

re: #555 jamesfirecat

I’m surprised you didn’t tell me “Down the hall, turn right, take the elevator to 1102.”

Ah, it’s a Blue Brothers reference. Sorry, I’d forgotten that one for a moment.

571 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:38:58pm

Tales from the coal mines (not) but…

I’m hiring an EMPLOYEE. My first.

This, is a great thing. In 2010.

572 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:39:00pm

re: #563 b_sharp

I haven’t. My spiritual relationship with God healed my broken heart.

573 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:39:17pm

Fascinating interview. If you’re following the groundzeromegamosque nontroversy, I advise turning on CNN.

574 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:39:18pm

re: #563 b_sharp

The belief in a ‘god’ starts quite young when we view our parents as all knowing and all powerful. When we’re that young it is essential to our survival to follow instructions without question.

As our communities grew to sizes beyond our ability to track genetic relations and debts, we needed to develop practices that would diminish social friction. Religion gave us a method of codifying and enforcing those conventions. It also gave us explanations for events that we didn’t understand, had no control over and/or feared.

We’ve gone beyond those needs.

So we understand everything now?

Really?

We know what happens when we die?

575 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:40:38pm

re: #566 Stanley Sea

:D

576 webevintage  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:41:21pm

re: #569 tradewind

Sonofabitch! And I was so sure that the WH website would be all about an apology tour for causing the rate increase!
I guess they’ve used up their entire ration over our sins abroad./

I wonder what explains the 40% increase in our premiums that we got last October.

577 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:41:22pm

re: #575 windsagio

:D

*O_O*

578 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:41:30pm

re: #570 Dark_Falcon

Ah, it’s a Blue Brothers reference. Sorry, I’d forgotten that one for a moment.

I decided to focus on the positive aspect of Chicago.

I was passing through one of their airports (and in a major huff because I’d just lost my wallet (only had $20 in it and about $10 in gift certificates managed to get home okay even without ID since I was with my folks…) but I was none the less had my day brightened by the sight of Jake and Ellwood statues….

579 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:41:33pm

re: #574 WindUpBird

So we understand everything now?

Really?

We know what happens when we die?

I think we become earthworm food.

580 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:41:38pm

re: #427 Renaissance_Man

Humans are irrational. Religion is simply the most organised form of that irrationality. Reason and discourse barely enter into our discussions now, even in this most enlightened of ages, even the things that religion barely touches on.

Humans are naturally superstitious, but only because we see patterns in everything, but we aren’t naturally irrational. Early religion was an attempt to rationally explain events and lubricate social interactions. Many of the things we consider irrational today were considered rational at one time, they have become irrational as our understanding of our physical world, and ourselves, has grown.

581 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:41:59pm

re: #573 Charles

Fascinating interview. If you’re following the groundzeromegamosque nontroversy, I advise turning on CNN.

Done, thanks for the push.

Funding talk now.

582 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:42:15pm

re: #551 Charles
He’s on Fox as well.
Dude gets around.

583 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:42:26pm

re: #567 Cato the Elder

Well, OBL was made in the USA.

Thanks, in part, to Saint Reagan and the Bush crime family.

No, he wasn’t. His ideology was not formed in America. We may have given Arab groups funds and weapons in Afghanistan, but that does not mean we “made” Bin Laden. At most, he was an unintended consequence. Supporting the Afghans was still a good idea, even counting the later fallout.

584 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:42:33pm

re: #577 WindUpBird

(-.-)/

585 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:43:24pm

re: #579 Mr Pancakes

I think we become earthworm food.

Not me, I’m getting cremated

586 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:43:33pm

WOW

587 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:43:38pm

“I condemn everyone who has committed acts of terrorism, and Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.”

588 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:44:45pm

re: #585 WindUpBird

I wanna get dumped in the sound off of our cabin, but I think that’s illegal.

589 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:44:51pm

re: #546 Floral Giraffe

I’m updinging as hard as I can!
LOL!
*waves at the Lizards*

I owe you an email, check for it tomorrow.

590 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:45:24pm

re: #585 WindUpBird

Not me, I’m getting cremated

Ashes become earth nutrients.

I drink so much coffee I think I’m going to get percolated.

591 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:45:24pm

re: #583 Dark_Falcon

No, he wasn’t. His ideology was not formed in America. We may have given Arab groups funds and weapons in Afghanistan, but that does not mean we “made” Bin Laden. At most, he was an unintended consequence. Supporting the Afghans was still a good idea, even counting the later fallout.

Uh-huh.

592 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:45:36pm

re: #579 Mr Pancakes

I think we become earthworm food.

…and if we don’t just become earthworm food, what happens then?

593 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:45:48pm

re: #584 windsagio

594 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:45:53pm

re: #587 Charles

“I condemn everyone who has committed acts of terrorism, and Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.”

Close enough.

595 Stanghazi  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:46:04pm

re: #593 Stanley Sea

>>

ha

596 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:46:20pm

re: #592 Jetpilot1101

…and if we don’t just become earthworm food, what happens then?

I guess I’ll burn in hell forever?

597 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:46:44pm

re: #576 webevintage

I wonder what explains the 40% increase in our premiums that we got last October.

Democrats, naturally.

598 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:47:07pm

“we need to build relationships”

599 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:47:08pm

re: #596 Mr Pancakes

I guess I’ll burn in hell forever?

Easy on the hell stuff; what about reincarnation?

600 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:47:10pm

re: #583 Dark_Falcon
UBL was radicalized in Saudi Arabia, big Daddy issues with his wealthy contractor father. Classic black sheep/prodigal son.
He didn’t like the US contractors, US troops, businessmen, and other infidels who hung around the oil fields and construction sites.
Thought they defiled the entire country.

601 windsagio  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:47:19pm

re: #593 Stanley Sea

FAIL! <<<<

602 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:47:25pm

re: #587 Charles

“I condemn everyone who has committed acts of terrorism, and Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.”

B-b-but, he s-s-still hasn’t said “I condemn Hamas.”

Facepalm x ∞

603 jamesfirecat  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:47:29pm

re: #594 Killgore Trout

Close enough.

///By which you mean the wingnuts will still find a way to condemn him don’t you?

How dare he condemn all the hard fighting Operation Rescue people who have done so much to protect innocent unborn lives?

604 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:48:27pm

Evening lizards!

A little advice…after picking hot peppers for an hour and washing your hands 3 times, still, do not rub your eyes. It fucking burns!

605 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:49:12pm

re: #580 b_sharp

Humans are naturally superstitious, but only because we see patterns in everything, but we aren’t naturally irrational. Early religion was an attempt to rationally explain events and lubricate social interactions. Many of the things we consider irrational today were considered rational at one time, they have become irrational as our understanding of our physical world, and ourselves, has grown.

Humans are indeed naturally irrational. It’s not necessarily about religion or beliefs. We simply place much more stock in our opinions and gut reactions than actual facts. If our opinions and beliefs contradict the facts, we are far more likely to ignore the facts, consider them false, or at the very least view them with a prejudiced eye and look for flaws in them than we are to change our opinions. Far, far more likely.

606 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:49:18pm

re: #431 windsagio

not really on point :p

Utopian ‘if religion just goes away we’ll all suddenly turn rational!’ is magical thinking at best :P

Nobody expects humanity to suddenly become rational if religion disappears. You’ve built a straw man version of the argument.

The point is, motivators like religion stand in the way of developing a more rational approach to social interaction. You know, a rational stance like the civil rights movement that has developed as we drop more of our past reliance on mysticism and gone with more logical systems like science.

Or is the civil rights movement just magical thinking?

607 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:49:28pm

re: #599 Jetpilot1101

Easy on the hell stuff; what about reincarnation?

I’m not spiritual so I’m not a big believer in reincarnation.

I’m not an atheist either…… being an agnostic, barring sudden death, I can play my get out of hell card on my death bed.

608 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:50:14pm

re: #603 jamesfirecat

Well, it shouldn’t have taken him so long but never late than never. It really shouldn’t be such a struggle for Muslim leaders to condemn terrorist organizations.

609 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:50:34pm

re: #521 tradewind

It’s sad that people have their panties in a wad over that comment. ’ Actually, watchful waiting ’ is a treatment modality that is used in oncology for certain tumors ( i.e. early prostate) that are contained, and where surgery may not be the immediate choice, especially in more elderly people whose tumors grow slowly and are less likely to kill them. The sarc was that it will surely be used more often now.

My great-aunt had a slow-growing brain tumor, diagnosed when she was in her 70’s. They told her it would not kill her and recommended against surgery. She did not worry about it.

It did, though, kill her eventually, caused her to have a stroke and die. Of course, she was in her mid-90’s when that happened - I think when they put her on “watchful waiting”, they did not expect that she would live another 20 years.

Surgery would have been difficult, though, in her 70’s, and may have caused other problems that may have lead to an even earlier death.

610 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:50:37pm

CNN interview is very interesting..In depth with the Imam

611 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:51:20pm

re: #604 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

A little advice…after picking hot peppers for an hour and washing your hands 3 times, still, do not rub your eyes. It fucking burns!

re: #492 Escaped Hillbilly

Oh.
Funny synchronicity…we made chili tonight and used a pepper from my new pepper plant. My son picked his out because he doesn’t like too much heat. Then made the mistake of wiping his eye. Oopsy. Think we could hope for something like for mister burn the Koran? I don’t want him to actually die…just…a little juice in the eye kinda thing?


deja vous

612 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:51:39pm

laters gators.

XP does not want to share my bloody printer.

*grabs hammer*

i may be some time.

613 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:52:18pm

re: #447 WindUpBird

That’s what dumbfuck athiests who live in their momma’s basements think, yeah

I may be a dumbfuck atheist, but I don’t live in my mother’s basement. In fact I was out of the house when I was 16.

And no, atheist’s don’t believe in that ridiculous straw argument.

614 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:52:29pm

re: #604 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

A little advice…after picking hot peppers for an hour and washing your hands 3 times, still, do not rub your eyes. It fucking burns!

I can think of worse things to rub.

615 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:52:34pm

re: #607 Mr Pancakes

I’m not spiritual so I’m not a big believer in reincarnation.

I’m not an atheist either… being an agnostic, barring sudden death, I can play my get out of hell card on my death bed.

Fair enough. I like to get the feelings of people on the issue of death and the afterlife. I live my life for my kids and am doing everything in my power to make their lives better than mine was and is. I’ve had a great life but if I can give them a better life, I’ll consider myself a success. It’s all about family. I’m a spiritual dude so I do happen to believe in an afterlife.

616 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:53:03pm

re: #611 Escaped Hillbilly

re: #492 Escaped Hillbilly


deja vous

How about that?

Heh.

617 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:53:43pm

Whew, new thread. Just in time.

618 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:53:47pm

re: #614 Mr Pancakes

I can think of worse things to rub.

Been there. Done that. You are correct.

619 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:54:07pm

Terry Jones’s Last Supper (let us bow our heads and pry):

620 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:54:25pm

re: #611 Escaped Hillbilly

re: #492 Escaped Hillbilly


deja vous

deja vu.

621 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:54:36pm

re: #604 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

A little advice…after picking hot peppers for an hour and washing your hands 3 times, still, do not rub your eyes. It fucking burns!

That’s not the only thing you shouldn’t rub. Rather than tell a story I’ve told here before, I will simply link to a previous post of my own, even if it is somewhat narcissistic.

Why Curry and other Fun Things do not mix

622 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:55:05pm

re: #612 wozzablog

laters gators.

XP does not want to share my bloody printer.

*grabs hammer*

i may be some time.

The bigger the hammer the better the job..
If you need help with a printer issue I can help

623 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:55:19pm

re: #594 Killgore Trout
Ph.D in parsing from the Clinton School.

624 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:55:22pm

re: #453 WindUpBird

yeah, we’ll fight over race instead

Whoops, can’t make race disappear!

Read what I said. Nowhere did I claim we wouldn’t continue to fight. What I said was the things we would fight about would be easier to answer.

Funny thing is, the advances we’ve made in racial equality in the western world validates what I’ve said, doncha think?

625 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:55:40pm

re: #615 Jetpilot1101

Fair enough. I like to get the feelings of people on the issue of death and the afterlife. I live my life for my kids and am doing everything in my power to make their lives better than mine was and is. I’ve had a great life but if I can give them a better life, I’ll consider myself a success. It’s all about family. I’m a spiritual dude so I do happen to believe in an afterlife.

That’s cool…… for me it’s hard to look around and say this was all randomly put together.

I let my kids follow their own path after I was forced as a kid to follow the Bible without question….. which I grew to hate over time.

626 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:56:03pm

Anyone want to take any bets on whether or not this news team alerted the Afghani authorities with relevant details?

Into the mind of a suicide bomber

627 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:56:21pm

re: #621 Renaissance_Man
OMG, without even clicking I know ‘zackly what that’s about.
And it does burn.

628 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:56:26pm

re: #620 reine.de.tout
oops…vuja de…none of this has ever happened before.

629 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:56:29pm

re: #608 Killgore Trout

Well, it shouldn’t have taken him so long but never late than never. It really shouldn’t be such a struggle for Muslim leaders to condemn terrorist organizations.

I had a brief discussion with CuriousLurker about that on this page.
Her response is #6.

630 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:56:46pm

re: #620 reine.de.tout

deja vu.

déjà vu

631 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:57:07pm

re: #621 Renaissance_Man

That’s not the only thing you shouldn’t rub. Rather than tell a story I’ve told here before, I will simply link to a previous post of my own, even if it is somewhat narcissistic.

Why Curry and other Fun Things do not mix

Hilarious!

632 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:57:41pm

re: #630 Cato the Elder

déjà vu

smart aleck.

633 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 6:59:22pm

re: #632 reine.de.tout
Just tell him you knew exactly what you were saying, and it was ’ you, again? ‘/

634 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:00:28pm

re: #519 windsagio

It shocks me that you think that way. A true zealot.

It shocks me that you resort to name calling rather than argue the points.

635 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:00:29pm

re: #625 Mr Pancakes

That’s cool… for me it’s hard to look around and say this was all randomly put together.

I’m a religious person, and I don’t believe this was all “randomly” put together.
I do believe there is God, and He put it all into motion.

636 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:00:57pm

re: #609 reine.de.tout
Sounds like they made the right call for then.
Now maybe they would have used that gamma knife thing-y.

637 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:01:02pm

re: #633 tradewind
Actually, she corrected me on spelling.

638 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:01:16pm

re: #520 WindUpBird

This is athiest gibberish

As opposed to what, religious gibberish?

Let’s hear your argument.

639 tradewind  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:02:23pm

re: #635 reine.de.tout
Back before the expression ’ intelligent design ’ meant ’ crazy ‘, there was a great line from Jimmy Smits/Matt Santos on WW when asked if he believed in it.
” I believe in God, and I like to think that He’s intelligent “.

640 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:02:40pm

re: #629 reine.de.tout

I had a brief discussion with CuriousLurker about that on this page.
Her response is #6.

Thanks for posting that.

641 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:04:40pm

re: #632 reine.de.tout

smart aleck.

Hi reine! The empty house is filled with packed boxes…I hate this part.. Moving between houses…Has any human on earth every said, ’ I love moving!”
Not one…Well unless you are moving into the White House..

642 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:04:45pm

re: #637 Escaped Hillbilly

Actually, she corrected me on spelling.

And I corrected her miscorrection.

‘Taint French without the accents.

643 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:06:27pm

re: #622 HoosierHoops

many thanks - but - its now working - dented, but working.

I’m an IT peep, so was just annoyed the tech-fu hadn’t worked. Stubborn firewalls. Grrr.

But - now printing happily.

644 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:07:03pm

re: #635 reine.de.tout

I’m a religious person, and I don’t believe this was all “randomly” put together.
I do believe there is God, and He put it all into motion.

That’s my point….. I’m not religious …….. I think about the little bones in the ear, or the change of seasons, or why we never burn up in a solar flare, or would there be an inhabitable earth without a moon, or how hummingbirds fly……. I think there is something guiding all this…… can I call “god” nature?

645 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:07:42pm

re: #537 Rightwingconspirator

Unique? Maybe if you forget nationalism, and war itself.

Nationalism in it’s most extreme manifestation is backed by religion. That’s why you hear ‘anti-American’ and ‘attack on Christianity’ from the same groups. War is the result of a lot of things.

Tell me a motivator that is more effective than religion in getting people to follow a leader.

646 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:08:49pm

re: #645 b_sharp

Nationalism in it’s most extreme manifestation is backed by religion. That’s why you hear ‘anti-American’ and ‘attack on Christianity’ from the same groups. War is the result of a lot of things.

Tell me a motivator that is more effective than religion in getting people to follow a leader.

free cookies :p

works for me everytime

647 palomino  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:08:51pm

re: #562 Cato the Elder

I have nothing against WUB. It’s his witless buddy who nerves me.

Dumbass jester vs. connoisseur of fools. You decide who’s who.

In the words of my hero Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get along?”

648 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:12:16pm

re: #643 wozzablog

many thanks - but - its now working - dented, but working.

I’m an IT peep, so was just annoyed the tech-fu hadn’t worked. Stubborn firewalls. Grrr.

But - now printing happily.

Great! We should put together a geek page.
there is some really talented lizards here..

649 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:14:58pm

re: #572 prairiefire

I haven’t. My spiritual relationship with God healed my broken heart.

I respect your belief and the fact you are able to heal through that belief.

As an explanation for physical phenomena and as a tool to codify and enforce laws, we have politicians and the judicial system for that, religion is no longer needed.

650 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:16:34pm

re: #644 Mr Pancakes

can I call “god” nature?

People who have studied this a lot think not; and that God is outside of nature, having created it.

651 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:19:24pm

re: #645 b_sharp

Nationalism in it’s most extreme manifestation is backed by religion. That’s why you hear ‘anti-American’ and ‘attack on Christianity’ from the same groups. War is the result of a lot of things.

Tell me a motivator that is more effective than religion in getting people to follow a leader.

Hate and fear of a group of ‘others’, foreigners or otherwise.

You can say that often stems from religion, but it doesn’t have to. You can gin up resentment against the other based on any point of difference, be it religion, race, or party affiliation.

652 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:20:07pm

re: #574 WindUpBird

So we understand everything now?

Really?

We know what happens when we die?

Are you capable of reading for comprehension when it comes to this subject?

Nothing I said even implies I think we know everything. As far as death is concerned, all we know is what happens to the physical body. We also know that many of the emotions people get with religion can be reproduced through stimulating the brain. Whether there is a soul and an afterlife is impossible to test.

653 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:20:12pm

re: #641 HoosierHoops

Hi reine! The empty house is filled with packed boxes…I hate this part.. Moving between houses…Has any human on earth every said, ’ I love moving!”
Not one…Well unless you are moving into the White House..

Actually - I do like moving, though I haven’t moved in 25 years, I’d love to.
It would force me to get rid of a lot of clutter …

654 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:21:12pm

re: #642 Cato the Elder

And I corrected her miscorrection.

‘Taint French without the accents.

I don’t know how to do the accents on my keyboard.
Is there a secret?

655 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:22:46pm

re: #653 reine.de.tout

Actually - I do like moving, though I haven’t moved in 25 years, I’d love to.
It would force me to get rid of a lot of clutter …

I’m in the process doing that right now since I’m not working at the moment. I didn’t realize how much shit I’ve collected in the past 10+ years.

656 blueraven  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:26:24pm

re: #533 tradewind

Here’s what I’ve seen as a result of the new health care plan so far: my premiums just went up about 15%. Blue Cross/Blue Shield isn’t taking any chances, the cowards.



Right..blame the steady rise in health insurance on HCR. That’s bull. Though I wouldn’t argue that maybe 2-3% may be HCR related, the rest is just part of health care cost that are out of control, and have been for years. The cost controls do not really come into effect until 2014.
But go ahead and spout your talking points. I wouldn’t expect anything less.

657 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:32:52pm

re: #650 Ojoe

People who have studied this a lot think not; and that God is outside of nature, having created it.

Agreed…… that’s where I part company.

658 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:35:51pm

re: #654 reine.de.tout

I don’t know how to do the accents on my keyboard.
Is there a secret?

I found this for you……

659 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 7:36:54pm

re: #605 Renaissance_Man

Humans are indeed naturally irrational. It’s not necessarily about religion or beliefs. We simply place much more stock in our opinions and gut reactions than actual facts. If our opinions and beliefs contradict the facts, we are far more likely to ignore the facts, consider them false, or at the very least view them with a prejudiced eye and look for flaws in them than we are to change our opinions. Far, far more likely.

Our opinions and gut feelings (common sense) are learned. They change with culture and time. You seem to think I’m suggesting adults will suddenly change and go against their upbringing. I’m not, I’m suggesting the way we teach our kids can result in more rational adults.

Humans are not naturally irrational. If we were we would not have attempted to explain the unknown. We would not have developed methods of acquiring knowledge. Even hunter-gatherer level humans thought rationally about how to collect and hunt food. It isn’t irrational to believe a god controls rain if you have no other explanation, in fact it provides a structured response to things like droughts, even though the belief is wrong. We consider that response as irrational now in hindsight, because we have a much better grasp of the causes of rain.

660 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 8:08:22pm

Rational thought in 2010.

1. Never golf in a thunderstorm.
2. Never answer the ‘do I look fat in this’ question.
3. Never discuss religion as an atheist on LGF.

661 Gus  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 8:14:45pm

re: #660 b_sharp

Rational thought in 2010.

1. Never golf in a thunderstorm.
2. Never answer the ‘do I look fat in this’ question.
3. Never discuss religion as an atheist on LGF.

Reading some of your other comments. As you know. You can’t test something that can’t be tested as in the case of a soul. Basically it become a futile argument IMO.

662 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 8:25:53pm

re: #661 Gus 802

Reading some of your other comments. As you know. You can’t test something that can’t be tested as in the case of a soul. Basically it become a futile argument IMO.

It wasn’t about whether religion can be tested. I stated in an earlier comment that it can’t. It was about the need, or lack thereof, for religion in its traditional role and its modern role as an impediment to advancement.

I was surprised by the vitriolic response.

663 Laughing Gas  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 10:22:49pm

Even if you think he’s a walking psychiatric anomaly, he has every right in the world to burn the Koran. Freedom of speech cuts in all directions.

664 ClaudeMonet  Wed, Sep 8, 2010 11:46:58pm

re: #44 Jeff In Ohio

Aw, Kirk can’t handle my brain. I’m the guy in the Creation Museum asking to see Adam’s pecker.

Every time I decide to go across the river to the Creation Museum, I keep going on I-275 to the Indiana casinos. Apparently, my subconscious thinks I’m more likely to find The Truth there.

665 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 12:04:36am

re: #122 reuven

Happy New Year everyone! One final comment for the year 5770:

[Link: www.wvgazette.com…]

Hope everyone has a sweet new year!

And shanah tovah to you!

re: #139 Alouette

Wishing all my friends a Good Blessed New Year

The same to you and your family!

re: #219 prairiefire

There are commenters at RedState supporting the burning.

I’ll take your word for it. If I went there or FreeRepublic or similar sites, I’d have to deal with the byproduct of my computer throwing up. It’s not a pretty sight.

666 ClaudeMonet  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 12:31:40am

re: #271 Varek Raith

I can still demonize disco, right???

And crappy 1970s polyester.

OTOH, there are some singers and groups from that time that I have forgiven and even enjoy. But the polyester, no way. It will not die, it cannot be destroyed, it can only be isolated and shunned.

re: #442 windsagio

Art is evil, you know that!

Hey, Art is my brother. I haven’t thought of him as evil since we were little kids.

re: #533 tradewind

Here’s what I’ve seen as a result of the new health care plan so far: my premiums just went up about 15%. Blue Cross/Blue Shield isn’t taking any chances, the cowards.

I hear you. I can hardly wait to see what my premium will be this fall, when I turn 55.

re: #421 windsagio

I laughed :D

Hate to tell ya, but people aren’t built that way.

There’ll always be something.

I agree. Reluctantly and sadly.

667 Steve Dutch  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 4:59:37am

Ooh, ClaudeMonet, you have comment 666. You Beast, you!

The Germans have it right. They regard fundamentalism as a cult, not genuine Christianity. Granted, their real Christian churches are empty.

Time to roll out the nuclear option. If you read fundie literature on groups like the Mormons, JW’s, 7DA’s, etc., sometimes even the Catholic Church, their code word is “man-made pseudo-Christian cult.” (That’s chutzpah, to mix religions. These people wouldn’t even have heard of Christianity if the Catholic Church hadn’t preserved it for 1500 years until Luther came along.) We need to bomb people like Jones, Phred Phelps, etc. with that term at every opportunity. When the picketers from Westboro Baptist come to town, unroll a huge banner for the cameras proclaiming “Westboro Baptist Church is a Man-Made Pseudo-Christian Cult.” Do the same at the Koran-burning.

668 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 5:55:07am

I’ve got it! Print all Korans on asbestos!

669 Petero1818  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 7:27:59am

re: #425 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes if you went to Meah Shearim and burned one you would have a riot, but if you go there in a short sleeve shirt you will also get one.

670 ihateronpaul  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 8:08:36am

This guy is completely nuts, I give him 3 years before he finds a town in africa to create an evangelical utopia….

671 pawan  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 8:18:10am

Our ancient religious text like Veda and Tripitaka has had many opportunity of this kind (thanks to Muslim invader). Now they will learn a lesson that we are no alone. Go for B.Q.D.

672 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 8:51:30am

re: #671 pawan

Well you see why should Moslems get any special treatment here? It just encourages them to riot, or worse.

673 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:26:38am

What the fuck.

674 jamesfirecat  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:39:46am

re: #672 Ojoe

Well you see why should Moslems get any special treatment here? It just encourages them to riot, or worse.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, I think you forgot your sarc tag mate!

675 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:41:49am

re: #671 pawan

How long ago was that? End the cycle of retribution.

676 jaunte  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:43:12am

re: #675 Rightwingconspirator

He’s transmigrated, Jim.

677 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:46:23am

re: #672 Ojoe

Well you see why should Moslems get any special treatment here? It just encourages them to riot, or worse.

What the hell is wrong with you? Are you tired of commenting at LGF?

678 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:47:14am

re: #674 jamesfirecat

Then why the upding on 671?

679 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:48:52am

re: #678 Jeff In Ohio

Waay out of character for Ojoe, I’m jaw hanging here.

680 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 9:52:30am

re: #672 Ojoe

Well you see why should Moslems get any special treatment here? It just encourages them to riot, or worse.

But I see no Muslims rioting, or massing in protest against churches, synagogues or even strip clubs.

Who is it we see encouraging massive protest rallies, and what is it they are protesting against?

681 Randall Gross  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:06:32am

I’m guessing Tamil separatist with an agenda.

682 Political Atheist  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:17:51am

re: #681 Thanos

Sharp guess. Would have loved to banter with him a bit. Oh well.

683 Randall Gross  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:28:11am

re: #682 Rightwingconspirator

Sharp guess. Would have loved to banter with him a bit. Oh well.

Actually it’s not accurate, but it’s a subtle insult. :)
(My real guess is that he’s Hindu, but Hindi’s always get upset when you mention Tamils, because some Tamils are Dravidian, and …. Hindu religion derived from Dravidianism, but the Vedas were written by a god… therefor…. it’s like challenging a fundamentalist Christian on biblical inerrancy.)

684 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:29:33am

re: #672 Ojoe

Well you see why should Moslems get any special treatment here? It just encourages them to riot, or worse.

Oh man did I call your flounce before you flounced?

Two points for Windupbird

685 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:30:57am

re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth

Uncalled for. He’s a good egg, he is just very wrong on this issue.

Still think he’s a good egg, man?

686 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:34:22am

Building a place of worship that conforms to building code is not a special privilege. All religions are allowed to do this, provided they obey the laws of acquiring and building.

Going on news shows to define your point of view is not a special privilege. We’re inundated with news shows with varying points of view.

Protesting or counter-protesting is not a special privilege. It’s been going on since the Sons of Liberty put on war paint and opened some casks of tea.

Speaking your mind is the very essence of America. What’s un-American is saying that someone else can’t.

687 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:39:17am

re: #680 reine.de.tout

But I see no Muslims rioting, or massing in protest against churches, synagogues or even strip clubs.

Who is it we see encouraging massive protest rallies, and what is it they are protesting against?

yes this

688 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:56:55am

re: #672 Ojoe

Dude, WTF? Please say you forgot a sarc tag…

689 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 10:58:16am

re: #684 WindUpBird

re: #685 WindUpBird

Any particular reason you’re stirring shit up?

690 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 1:17:00pm

re: #689 talon_262

re: #685 WindUpBird

Any particular reason you’re stirring shit up?

I’ve been sick of him and his dogwhistle crap for a long time, and I’m sick of people defending him because they put familiarity over his actual words

I dislike the circle-the-wagons tribalism among older posters here, I dislke it intensely

691 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 9, 2010 1:26:23pm

re: #690 WindUpBird

I’ve been sick of him and his dogwhistle crap for a long time, and I’m sick of people defending him because they put familiarity over his actual words

I dislike the circle-the-wagons tribalism among older posters here, I dislke it intensely

I appreciate your fresh perspective on us oldsters. Some of us can’t help being taken by surprise, even the 1,000th time, when someone we thought we knew sounds like a complete idiot. And objecting to this:

You’re a fucking retard

doesn’t necessarily count as tribalism.


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