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1 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 6:58:29pm

i miss the comidas criollas restaurants in manhattan. i don't think there's anyplace to get mofongo in the bay area

2 Petero1818  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:01:25pm

Ah, nyc burger places is a topic I could spend hours on. But top 3 in no particular order:
corner bistro
Original shake shack
Peter Luger (lunch)

3 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:04:59pm

Character.

4 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:26:46pm

Bad News in Egypt.

The Death Toll has risen to 74, and it is believed it will rise farther, as 200 are critically injured in the hospital.

Also, all Association Football games have been postponed until further notice.

5 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:38:53pm

Prime Burger Google street view.

Their menu.

Pretty good prices. Heck, they have a lot of places in Denver beat.

6 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:41:51pm

An oldie* but a goodie...

Charlie Brooker's How to Report the News

Youtube Video

*by interweb standards

7 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:43:16pm

mofongo for everybody on me!

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:47:54pm

re: #7 engineer dog

Never had it, but it sounds delicious. I'll take two.

9 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:49:37pm

Welcome to the Soviet Union.

10 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:53:16pm

Is the Super Bowl on tonight?

//

11 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:53:27pm

re: #9 Gus 802

"Feb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency released 622 documents related to its study of water contamination tied to hydraulic fracturing in Pavillion, Wyoming, as Republican lawmakers criticized the findings."[Link: www.businessweek.com...]

They criticized the findings before they even had a chance to read the released documentation.

12 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:55:45pm

"Representative Andy Harris of Maryland, the Republican chairman of the Energy and Environment subcommittee of the House Science Committee, criticized Martin and the EPA, saying that the study of groundwater contamination was an example of “politics trumping policy and advocacy trumping science.”"

Lol.

13 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:56:03pm

re: #11 jaunte

They criticized the findings before they even had a chance to read the released documentation.

The Republican Party is a hopeless mess. They can't even do a good job of advancing their own policies without turning it into a clown show. All of it. It's getting really sickening to see all of this anti-choice BS being passed in the states. And in a lot state a return of many of the same old creationist bologna and attempts to bring religion into schools.

14 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:56:47pm

re: #12 jaunte

That's like a black hole of irony. Too strong for even reason to escape.

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 7:58:57pm

re: #13 Gus 802

At first scan, I originally read your first sentence as:

The Republican Party is a homeless mess.

Wishful thinking on my part, I suppose.

16 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:00:41pm

re: #14 BigPapa

James Inhofe, throwing his weight around:

"I am concerned that EPA has pre-determined that hydraulic fracturing is the cause of contamination in their Pavillion investigation and the Agency is trying to make the data conform to that conclusion, instead of engaging in an open scientific inquiry...”
[Link: k2radio.com...]

17 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:00:53pm

OT but interesting stuff.

Satellites and the internet haven't taken over the telecommunications world completely, at least not quite. I've been researching one of the radio world's longest running mysteries, the intriguing phenomenon known as Numbers Stations.
These are clandestine shortwave stations that broadcast what appear to be coded signals. They have been logged by amateur radio enthusiasts since just after World War 2 and continue to operate to this day. It is now generally conceded that they are involved in espionage.
Numbers Stations at Wikipedia
Many of the stations have nicknames, usually derived from characteristic introductions or apparent call-signs. The Cuban station "Atencion!" is called that because it always begins its otherwise cryptic broadcasts with that word. The British (probably SIS) station known as the "Lincolnshire Poacher" always plays a British folk song by that title to introduce its broadcasts. "Cherry Ripe" uses several bars from that song and is apparently located in Australia. One of the more interesting aspects of this is that some of these stations have not changed their characteristic formats in decades.

Shortwave transmitters are difficult to locate, at least for amateurs, but several have been tracked down. The Lincolnshire Poacher transmits from the grounds of the RAF base at Akrotiri Cyprus. One US station is located near Tangier in Morrocco and others are located in Florida and near Warrenton VA. Mossad stations broadcast from Israel itself, of course, and sometimes from distant locations, possibly including South Africa or even ships at sea. Speculation that these are run by drug traders or terrorists are rubbish, since you can't operate a high powered short-wave transmitter without at least the permission of the nearest government, at least not for long.

18 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:01:48pm

re: #13 Gus 802

The Republican Party is a hopeless mess. They can't even do a good job of advancing their own policies without turning it into a clown show. All of it. It's getting really sickening to see all of this anti-choice BS being passed in the states. And in a lot state a return of many of the same old creationist bologna and attempts to bring religion into schools.

and if things keep going the way they've been going, the GOP won't have a viable presidential candidate in 2016

19 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:02:43pm

re: #16 jaunte

James Inhofe, throwing his weight around:

Right. Because Republicans are well know for their "open scientific inquiry." And we all know now how the Bush White House withheld crucial scientific information and data during their time in office.

20 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:03:28pm

re: #18 engineer dog

and if things keep going the way they've been going, the GOP won't have a viable presidential candidate in 2016

Hope so. But never underestimate the ability for Americans to be stupid.

21 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:05:19pm

re: #19 Gus 802

Sen. Inhofe Lists Creationists as Prominent Scientists in Global Warming Report

Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) issued a report that said, “Over 700 dissenting scientists … from around the globe challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.”
Calling it a “groundbreaking report,” the document said, “The over 700 dissenting scientists are more than 13 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.”

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:06:44pm

"Mitt Romney is complaining that Newt Gingrich never called to congratulate last night for winning the Primary. However, Romney said he did get a call from a guy asking for Heywood JaBlowme. The voice sounded very familiar." - Conan, just now.

23 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:11:35pm

Sources: Trump to endorse Newt

i'm making an indistinct noise right now

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:12:26pm

re: #23 engineer dog

Sources: Trump to endorse Newt

i'm making an indistinct noise right now

King maker? yeahno.

25 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:13:40pm

Hey Trump! Check it out:

The graffiti artist who took Facebook stock instead of cash for painting the walls of the social network’s first headquarters made a smart bet. The shares owned by the artist, David Choe, are expected to be worth upward of $200 million when Facebook stock trades publicly later this year.

26 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:16:47pm

re: #23 engineer dog

Sources: Trump to endorse Newt

i'm making an indistinct noise right now

That's his "big announcement," that he's going to endorse Newt? Too little, too late.

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:17:15pm

Who (other than an employee of Donald Trump) gives a flying fig what he thinks?

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:18:13pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

Dharma Initiative stations. Bet me.

29 dragonath  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:19:04pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I used to have a theory that the farther up in AM frequency, the crazier radio gets. Shortwave has the weirdest stuff of all. Gold bugs, one-man religious shows, and communists!

There's still some cool programs out there. I once caught a Radio Japan broadcast where they were playing anime music and taking calls. On shortwave.

30 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:21:01pm

Seriously, how could a Trump endorsement help Newt at this time if it doesn't come with a huge cash donation? If anything, it's gonna drag Newt into a lot of shit he probably doesn't want to confront, such as questions about whether he support Trump's birther beliefs, which he expressed to much derision last year.

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:21:56pm

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who (other than an employee of Donald Trump) gives a flying fig what he thinks?

A new season of Celebrity Apprentice starts in a couple of weeks. That's what this is all about. Drumming up some interest for his show. At least, that's what I think.

32 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:25:04pm

re: #30 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It ain't about Newt. It's about Trump. And his TV show.

If I was a betting man, I'd put money on him working his show into his announcement about supporting Newt or whatever it will be.

33 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:25:48pm

I think it should be obvious here that the Republicans are just orchestrating this hearing not to defend or support fracking but to slam and criticize the EPA. Politics as usual. They're not interested in the science. The long game here is this new bizarre GOP platform of destroying the EPA. Which of course was brought to you in large part by Richard Nixon.

34 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:28:13pm

re: #33 Gus 802

I think it should be obvious here that the Republicans are just orchestrating this hearing not to defend or support fracking but to slam and criticize the EPA. Politics as usual. They're not interested in the science. The long game here is this new bizarre GOP platform of destroying the EPA. Which of course was brought to you in large part by Richard Nixon.

You mean "progressive" Richard Nixon? Ya know Reagan was arguably just as crooked as Nixon but the reason why Republicans don't embrace Nixon isn't because Nixon was crooked, it's because Nixon didn't believe the government was totally evil.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:31:38pm

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

I watch a shitload of tv (SHUT UP SNOBS!) and I'm very proud that I've never seen one of his shows.

I just can't imagine someone who isn't brain dead will think, "Well...that does it for me. If Trump likes Newt..."

36 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:31:57pm

re: #33 Gus 802

The draft report says inves­ti­ga­tors have found com­pounds in Pavilion’s ground­wa­ter asso­ci­ated with frack­ing. The EPA found high con­cen­tra­tions of ben­zene, xylene, gaso­line and diesel fuel in shal­low ground­wa­ter sup­plies that they linked to waste­water pits. But the report also found a num­ber of frack­ing chem­i­cals in much deeper fresh water wells.
.......
The EPA draft report found chlo­ride,iso­propanol, dieth­yl­ene gly­col, tri­eth­yl­ene gly­col, and tert–butyl alco­hol in the deeper test wells. The report indi­cates the dif­fi­culty track­ing the chem­i­cals because the gas indus­try is not required to reveal all chem­i­cal elements.[Link: stateimpact.npr.org...]

Yum.

37 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:32:18pm

re: #33 Gus 802

I think it should be obvious here that the Republicans are just orchestrating this hearing not to defend or support fracking but to slam and criticize the EPA. Politics as usual. They're not interested in the science. The long game here is this new bizarre GOP platform of destroying the EPA. Which of course was brought to you in large part by Richard Nixon.

And the airwaves will be polluted as well, with 24/7 Citizens United pro-pollution crap (thanks, worst Supreme Court since Dred Scott!)

Too bad there isn't funding for an ad showing "before and after" as far as the EPA goes (images of rivers on fire and overflowing waste dumps, etc - voters desperately need their short-term memories jogged, throttled, and whipped into shape)

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:32:21pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

He's tanned. He's rested. He's ready.
Nixon '12.

39 Big Joe  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:34:03pm

LOL, reading the thread on Hot Air about Ann Coulter endorsing Romney when I found this comment...

Is Ann Coulter dating Charles Johnson these days?

xxxxxx on February 1, 2012 at 9:07 PM

40 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:34:39pm

re: #36 jaunte

Yum.

I'm not too familiar with oil shale production but most of it is from surface mining. IMO fracking might be even more dangerous because ground water contamination is typically irreversible.

41 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:34:51pm

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's tanned. He's rested. He's ready.
Nixon '12.

Just in time to turn 100 next year too.

42 Big Joe  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:34:59pm

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's tanned. He's rested. He's ready.
Nixon '12.

I have that t-shirt from '88

43 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:35:07pm

re: #33 Gus 802

I think it should be obvious here that the Republicans are just orchestrating this hearing not to defend or support fracking but to slam and criticize the EPA. Politics as usual. They're not interested in the science. The long game here is this new bizarre GOP platform of destroying the EPA. Which of course was brought to you in large part by Richard Nixon.

This hearing's more for the benefit of their "campaign contributors" in the natural gas industry than it is anything else. Especially by putting it behind closed doors, as the industry's been asserting for years (backed up by the previous administration's love of playing footsie with the fossil fuel boys) that the stuff in fraking fluid is a "trade secret" that simply can't get out. The reality is that, due to shoddy cement work, this shit is turning up in local drinking water supplies and they're looking at years of litigation if it can be proven that fraking fluid is the culprit.

44 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:36:00pm

Fun Nixon fact but he holds the record for most times on a ballot as president or VP from a major party.
1952, 1956, 1960, 1968, and 1972. Pretty incredible.

45 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:36:06pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Just in time to turn 100 next year too.

So ,, younger than Ron Paul!
/

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:36:10pm

re: #42 mracb

Need my address so you'll know where to mail it?

47 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:36:13pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

Interesting is right. I've read a little about it but your post was a great refresher. Thanks!

48 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:36:30pm

re: #16 jaunte

James Inhofe, throwing his weight around:

Great! Let's see James Inhofe engage in a little "open scientific inquiry" of his own by downing a nice, tall glass of groundwater from a fracking site to empirically demonstrate how safe it is.

49 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:37:01pm

re: #45 sattv4u2

So ,, younger that Ron Paul!
/

Yes, and more sane too. Though his human brain eating policy may not work in some states.

50 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:37:37pm

re: #43 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

This hearing's more for the benefit of their "campaign contributors" in the natural gas industry than it is anything else. Especially by putting it behind closed doors, as the industry's been asserting for years (backed up by the previous administration's love of playing footsie with the fossil fuel boys) that the stuff in fraking fluid is a "trade secret" that simply can't get out. The reality is that, due to shoddy cement work, this shit is turning up in local drinking water supplies and they're looking at years of litigation if it can be proven that fraking fluid is the culprit.

Right. And since it's a "trade secret" they can't reveal the chemical make-up. Strange but true in their little Randian world-view.

51 Big Joe  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:37:54pm

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's quite worn out. I wore it a lot.

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:38:02pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Fun Nixon fact but he holds the record for most times on a ballot as president or VP from a major party.
1952, 1956, 1960, 1968, and 1972. Pretty incredible.

I'm still fascinated by the fact that most folks who listened to him debate Kennedy on the radio thought he won handily.

People who watched on TV... well... you know.

53 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:38:41pm

re: #23 engineer dog

Sources: Trump to endorse Newt

i'm making an indistinct noise right now

Aw. I liked my theory much better. It gave me more time to panic before the master's future history took over... :P

54 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:39:09pm

re: #50 Gus 802

Right. And since it's a "trade secret" they can't reveal the chemical make-up. Strange but true in their little Randian world-view.

It's a trade secret because the previous admin sign law, championed by these ever-caring natural gas companies, dubbing fraking fluid composition a "trade secret." Part of Gasland's story is about how wrong the law is and how badly it needs to be repealed.

55 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:39:58pm

re: #48 publicityStunted

Senator Inhofe, here's your nice cool glass of deep well water with:
Acids
Glutaraldehyde
Sodium Chloride
N, n-Dimethyl formamide
Borate salts
Polyacrylamide
Petroleum distillates
Guar gum
Citric Acid
Potassium chloride
Ammonium bisulfite
Sodium or potassium carbonate
Sand
Ethylene glycol
Isopropanol

Enjoy!

56 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:40:05pm

Hmmm. Never mind. This oil shale stuff...

Image: oil_shale.gif

57 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:40:43pm

re: #10 Gus 802

Is the Super Bowl on tonight?

//

Whats that?

58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:41:27pm

Freakin' Blake Griffin is playing tonight for LA. He is a being from another planet.

59 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:41:59pm

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm still fascinated by the fact that most folks who listened to him debate Kennedy on the radio thought he won handily.

People who watched on TV... well... you know.

The poor guys sweat glands opened up on him like it was Niagra Falls

Image: TH185_DA_080128nixon185x185.jpg

Hard to see that on the radio!

60 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:42:25pm

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats that?

The yearly release of major movie trailers and hilarious commercials, separated by 10-20 minutes of big, sweaty men dressed in colorful outfits and body armor, fighting over an oddly shaped ball.

//

61 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:42:37pm

In a strange way we're treating this planet as if though it's some desolate uninhabitable place we can destroy and move on to another planet. Which of course won't happen even in a million years unless we terra-formed Mars or something. But we'd wind up doing the same there.

62 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:42:37pm

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm still fascinated by the fact that most folks who listened to him debate Kennedy on the radio thought he won handily.

People who watched on TV... well... you know.

That and the fact that he was only four years younger than Nixon. It's always made out that it was young JFK versus middle aged Nixon but both guys were under 50 which if memory serves me is the only time that both party's presidential candidates were under 50. I also think it's funny that Kennedy was made out to be inexperienced. Fourteen years in Congress at that time.

63 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:43:11pm

re: #59 sattv4u2

The poor guys sweat glands opened up on him like it was Niagra Falls

Image: TH185_DA_080128nixon185x185.jpg

Hard to see that on the radio!

First televised presidential debates. Or, better known as the day that substance took a backseat to style in presidential elections.

64 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:43:13pm

re: #60 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The yearly release of major movie trailers and hilarious commercials, separated by 10-20 minutes of big, sweaty men dressed in colorful outfits and body armor, fighting over an oddly shaped ball.

//

Sounds gay.

65 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:43:25pm

re: #29 dragonath

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I used to have a theory that the farther up in AM frequency, the crazier radio gets. Shortwave has the weirdest stuff of all. Gold bugs, one-man religious shows, and communists!

There's still some cool programs out there. I once caught a Radio Japan broadcast where they were playing anime music and taking calls. On shortwave.

Oh, there is some seriously cool shit out there. I took a little pocket radio that had short wave frequencies on it to Vietnam. Was interesting to compare what BBC, Deutsche Welle and Radio Beijing had to say on a given day. Radio Hanoi and Manilla were always fun too.

Gotta get another cheap receiver and start listening again. Deutsche Welle especially - some good cultural programming there ... :eek:

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:44:20pm

re: #59 sattv4u2

Hard to see that on the radio!

"Make up? You think I'm a Nancy-boy? Give it to that young guy over there."
-RMN

67 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:44:21pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sounds gay.

Very. And yet, people find some odd compulsion to watch and cheer/boo. Humans are such strange creatures.

//

68 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:44:22pm

I was doing some research just now on if Al-Awlaki had be a threat to foreign nations aside from the US. It turns out, he was partially responsible for some minor incidents in Britain, along with more major incidents in Yemen and Somalia. I believe the US has another justification for dealing with Americans with Awlaki. They were ongoing international incidents, threatening other nations and their civilians. As a citizen of the US, Awlaki needed to be handled by the US Government. Thankfully, Obama did just that.

However, I noticed two things in the Wikipedia article. The First Involves Britain:

Despite being banned from entering the United Kingdom in 2006, al-Awlaki spoke on at least seven occasions at five different venues around Britain via video-link in 2007–09. The East London Mosque provoked the outrage of The Daily Telegraph by allowing Noor Pro Media Events to hold a conference on New Year's Day 2009, showing a videotaped lecture by al-Awlaki; former Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve expressed concern over al-Awlaki's involvement.

He also gave video-link talks in England to an Islamic student society at the University of Westminster in September 2008, an arts center in East London in April 2009 (after the Tower Hamlets council gave its approval), worshipers at the Al Huda Mosque in Bradford, and a dinner of the Cageprisoners organization in September 2008 at the Wandsworth Civic Centre in South London (at which he said: "We should make jihad for our brothers"). On August 23, 2009, al-Awlaki was banned by local authorities in Kensington and Chelsea, London, from speaking at Kensington Town Hall via videolink to a fundraiser dinner for Guantanamo detainees promoted by Cageprisoners. His videos, which discuss his Islamist theories, have also been circulated across the United Kingdom, and until February 2010 hundreds of audio tapes of his sermons were available at the Tower Hamlets public libraries. In 2010 it was reported that the London-based Islam Channel had in 2009 carried advertisements for DVDs of al-Awlaki's sermons and for at least two events at which he was due to be the star speaker via video link.

Britain is doing a failure of a job at controlling Radicalism in their own nation. This is one example. And I guarantee nothing will be done about it until a Radicalized British Muslim, or a British Far-Rightist, commits a major terror attack in a nation that is not Britain. Britain, at least in my eyes, is far more of a mess than the US.

Secondly:

Nasser al-Awlaki is the father of Anwar and grandfather of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. After the deaths of his son and grandson, Nasser published a 6 minute audio message condemning the US for the killings. In the audio he described Obama:

"I urge the American people to bring the killers to justice. I urge them to expose the hypocrisy of the 2009 Nobel Prize laureate. To some, he may be that. To me and my family, he is nothing more than a child killer."

He claimed his son was far from any battlefield. After the audio, Nasser al-Awlaki began to deny he was endorsing violence after some media outlets interpreted his audio in that way.

A brother-in-law of Awlaki is Tariq al-Dahab, who leads al-Qaeda insurgents in Yemen.

How the flying fuck is this guy not on a watchlist and being tracked constantly?

69 Kragar  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:44:42pm

re: #67 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Very. And yet, people find some odd compulsion to watch and cheer/boo. Humans are such strange creatures.

//

I'll pass.

70 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:44:58pm

re: #55 jaunte

Senator Inhofe, here's your nice cool glass of deep well water with:
Acids
Glutaraldehyde
Sodium Chloride
N, n-Dimethyl formamide
Borate salts
Polyacrylamide
Petroleum distillates
Guar gum
Citric Acid
Potassium chloride
Ammonium bisulfite
Sodium or potassium carbonate
Sand
Ethylene glycol
Isopropanol

Enjoy!

Wait...doesn't someone already bottle and sell that?

71 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:45:44pm

NOTE TO SELF

When the coffee's been sitting in the pot for 6 hours (burner off for the last 5), DO NOT pour a cup, reheat and drink

Either
A) make another pot
or
B) wait 15 minutes till I leave work and stop at the QT on the way home

72 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:47:03pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

NOTE TO SELF

When the coffee's been sitting in the pot for 6 hours (burner off for the last 5), DO NOT pour a cup, reheat and drink

Either
A) make another pot
or
B) wait 15 minutes till I leave work and stop at the QT on the way home

Sometimes it works if you put the extra coffee in the frig after it cools down some. Keeps it fresher. Then re-heat. Otherwise it's pretty gross.

73 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:47:12pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

NOTE TO SELF

When the coffee's been sitting in the pot for 6 hours (burner off for the last 5), DO NOT pour a cup, reheat and drink

Either
A) make another pot
or
B) wait 15 minutes till I leave work and stop at the QT on the way home

You've never been in the military, have you?

74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:47:55pm

On that note? The long quiet walk up the stairs beckons.

G'night knuckleheads.

75 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:48:20pm

re: #70 publicityStunted

One more chemical factoid:

Between 2005 and 2009, the oil and gas service companies used hydraulic fracturing products containing 29 chemicals that are (1) known or possible human carcinogens, (2) regulated under the Safe Drinking Water Act for their risks to human health, or (3) listed as hazardous air pollutants under the Clean Air Act. These 29 chemicals were components of more than 650 different products used in hydraulic fracturing.

The BTEX compounds – benzene, toluene, xylene, and ethylbenzene – appeared in 60 of the hydraulic fracturing products used between 2005 and 2009. Each BTEX compound is a regulated contaminant under the Safe Drinking Water Act and a hazardous air pollutant under the
Clean Air Act. Benzene also is a known human carcinogen. The hydraulic fracturing companies injected 11.4 million gallons of products containing at least one BTEX chemical over the five year period.

(Chemicals Used In Hydraulic Fracturing;
Committee on Energy and Commerce Minority Staff
April 2011)

76 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:48:29pm

There appears to be some fracking going on in my stomach.

77 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:48:32pm

re: #73 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You've never been in the military, have you?

No,, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week, does that count?

78 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:49:23pm

I freaking want some hot fries, after this video.
STAT!

79 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:49:38pm

re: #75 jaunte

One more chemical factoid:

(Chemicals Used In Hydraulic Fracturing;
Committee on Energy and Commerce Minority Staff
April 2011)

That's freaking nuts.

80 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:50:01pm

re: #72 Gus 802

Sometimes it works if you put the extra coffee in the frig after it cools down some. Keeps it fresher. Then re-heat. Otherwise it's pretty gross.

It usually doesn't last that long around here

I made a fresh pot 6 hours ago thinking that my boss (who was still here) would have a cup as well as two contractors that have been here all week

Non of them drank any ( I had two cups before shutting the pot off)

81 sattv4u2  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:50:41pm

And on that note, (after a stop at the QT right around the corner) the long quiet drive home beckons

82 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:51:05pm

re: #79 Gus 802

Most of these chemicals were injected in Texas.

83 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:51:14pm

re: #77 sattv4u2

No,, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week, does that count?

Perhaps. But trust me, after 20+ years in the service, both my folks don't even flinch at coffee that's been sitting for 6 hours anymore. The sentiment seems to be that as long as it ain't burning through the bottom of the cup, it's still drinkable.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:52:05pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

My mom drinks coffee like that. Day old, even. She's either really frugal, or has no taste buds.

85 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:54:07pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

My mom drinks coffee like that. Day old, even. She's either really frugal, or has no taste buds.

Taste buds? Is that like when someone gets together with their buddies to taste a bunch of different foods?

"This one's good. This one, not so much..."

//

86 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:54:27pm

Mitt Romney is leading Gingrich by 15-20 points after one night of polling in Nevada

87 BongCrodny  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:56:16pm

re: #75 jaunte

One more chemical factoid:

(Chemicals Used In Hydraulic Fracturing;
Committee on Energy and Commerce Minority Staff
April 2011)

We're all fracked.

88 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:56:31pm

re: #86 jaunte

Mitt Romney is leading Gingrich by 15-20 points after one night of polling in Nevada

I think Newt's win in S.C. was a fluke, more a sign of just how ass-backwards a state it is than any sign that he's back on the warpath. Despite his promise, I don't see him staying in past Super Tuesday.

89 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:56:42pm

So really. We're hell bent on destroying the atmosphere, the climate, the ground water supplies, surface water supplies, etc. All to power a bunch of stupid cars and trucks for the most part. With little or no concern for our future. And this mostly coming from a bunch of people who are always talking about the debt's "impact on our future generations." I got news for them. Our debt is going to look like a walk in the park compared to irreversible ecological destruction. You can't pay your bills when you can't breath.

90 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:58:05pm

More fracking info than you can shake a stick at:
[Link: www.epa.gov...]

91 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:58:49pm

re: #86 jaunte

The fat lady (wearing a Tiffany's necklace, bought on credit no doubt) is singing (at a casino in Vegas) for Newtie.

92 BongCrodny  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:59:21pm

I never took to the taste of coffee, but there are times on these cold winter days up here in Maine, when I'm jealous as hell.

93 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:59:32pm

re: #89 Gus 802

So really. We're hell bent on destroying the atmosphere, the climate, the ground water supplies, surface water supplies, etc. All to power a bunch of stupid cars and trucks for the most part. With little or no concern for our future. And this mostly coming from a bunch of people who are always talking about the debt's "impact on our future generations." I got news for them. Our debt is going to look like a walk in the park compared to irreversible ecological destruction. You can't pay your bills when you can't breath.

Why do you buy into all this 'global warming' hype? Just because we have one winter that's warmer than last year's doesn't mean the world's comin' to an end! Why, I remember one winter when I walked in shorts every day, and we didn't hear scientists bitchin'! What, you gonna pay my bills for all your fancy shit like solar panels and windmill?!

94 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 8:59:37pm

re: #90 jaunte

More fracking info than you can shake a stick at:
[Link: www.epa.gov...]

I don't like that information! We must shut down the EPA and proceed with an "open scientific inquiry!"

//

95 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:00:50pm

re: #89 Gus 802

You can't pay your bills when you can't breath.

Just take you bootstraps, affix them to your gas mask, get a job, and quit your damn whining.
/

96 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:00:57pm

re: #93 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Right. But of course it's not just climate change as we can see with this fracking thing. How can we expect these knuckleheads to even compromise on AGW mitigation when they think injecting benzene into our groundwater supplies is just peachy.

97 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:02:06pm

re: #95 Slumbering Behemoth

Just take you bootstraps, affix them to your gas mask, get a job, and quit your damn whining.
/

Murica! Love it or leave it pinko! Take Michael Moore and your Code Pink-Greenpeace buddies and move to Cuba. See how you like it there!

//

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:02:33pm

re: #92 BongCrodny

I never took to the taste of coffee...

I'm sorry, but I don't think we can be friends anymore.

99 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:02:36pm

re: #89 Gus 802

... And this mostly coming from a bunch of people who are always talking about the debt's "impact on our future generations." I got news for them. Our debt is going to look like a walk in the park compared to irreversible ecological destruction. ...

The necessary shift in the mindset of the society, from one of thinking only about today and money (which is an enumeration of time spent) and one's status in one's local tribe, to that of being an integral element in a global eco-system with long lasting effects of our actions and with long-term requirements for our future ... all of that requires a major re-wiring of our culture.

That's why I'm a doomer.

100 BongCrodny  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:03:36pm

re: #95 Slumbering Behemoth

Just take you bootstraps, affix them to your gas mask, get a job, and quit your damn whining.
/

If you affix your bootstraps to your gas mask, you'll be bending over -- which is an absolutely accurate description.

101 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:04:03pm

re: #94 Gus 802

From the EPA Director's testimony before the Subcommittee on Water & Power, (Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resouces) in Oct. 2011:

The EPA plans to release two reports, one in 2012 that will summarize existing data, intermediate progress regarding retrospective case studies, scenario modeling and laboratory studies; and one in 2014 that will provide additional scientific results on these topics and report on prospective case studies and toxicological analyses.

Inhofe and friends would like to kill the EPA before that next report comes out.

102 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:04:10pm

re: #99 freetoken

The necessary shift in the mindset of the society, from one of thinking only about today and money (which is an enumeration of time spent) and one's status in one's local tribe, to that of being an integral element in a global eco-system with long lasting effects of our actions and with long-term requirements for our future ... all of that requires a major re-wiring of our culture.

That's why I'm a doomer.

Yeah. In the end life will go on even if the human species does go extinct. Which as we well know is very well possible.

103 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:04:19pm

re: #96 Gus 802

Right. But of course it's not just climate change as we can see with this fracking thing. How can we expect these knuckleheads to even compromise on AGW mitigation when they think injecting benzene into our groundwater supplies is just peachy.

Because it's always "somebody else's problem." They're polluting the water out West to pump the natural gas that warms my house? Oh well, that's "their problem." Oil spill in the Gulf screwed up billions in fishing and tourism? Long as gas prices don't go up, that's "their problem." Fly ash spill buries houses and pollutes rivers up in New England? Long as my electricity bill don't go up, that's "their problem."

But as soon as prices go up or it spills in my backyard? Those assholes are making "their problem" into my problem!

104 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:07:02pm

re: #103 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Because it's always "somebody else's problem." They're polluting the water out West to pump the natural gas that warms my house? Oh well, that's "their problem." Oil spill in the Gulf screwed up billions in fishing and tourism? Long as gas prices don't go up, that's "their problem." Fly ash spill buries houses and pollutes rivers up in New England? Long as my electricity bill don't go up, that's "their problem."

But as soon as prices go up or it spills in my backyard? Those assholes are making "their problem" into my problem!

Amazingly enough conservatives are supporting a major tenet of instant gratification.

Drill here, drill now. Fuck the future we want gasoline for our Dodge Rams now! I don't care what happens to our descendants future.

105 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:07:28pm

re: #100 BongCrodny

Excellent observation. Maybe I can overlook you blasphemous position on The Nectar of the Divine Bean.

106 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:08:01pm

And of course if you think the Sky Hook will come and save you. Well, we've already seen plenty of evidence in that belief from the GOP side of congress. "God won't let anything bad happen to us." Yeah, right.

107 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:08:58pm

re: #102 Gus 802

Yeah. In the end life will go on even if the human species does go extinct. Which as we well know is very well possible.

Oh, it is actually inevitable - all species of (multicellular) animals eventually to extinct. Either they are replaced by superior versions of themselves, or the entire line gets superseded.

However, humans will be (apparently) the first species to cognitively be aware of and unwilling to stop their own extinction.

As doomer as I am, I don't expect the Homo genus to go totally extinct anytime soon. Oh, we'll kill off the rest of the megafauna that is left, as well as most of the smaller animals and a good portion of the larger plant life... but even thousands of years from now, on a denuded planet, a few of our ancestors will be around, living off of jellyfish and crabgrass.

108 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:10:13pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Amazingly enough conservatives are supporting a major tenet of instant gratification.

Thing is they're being sold on a bunch of bullshit by conmen who know it. Whether it be "energy independence," or "jobs," or even the whole "free market" that will magically cause prices to drop at the announcement of new oil drilling, it's all a crock. But the conservatives lap it up, because they're scared shitless that the Good Ol' Days are gone and their big land yachts and Mid-Life Crisis-Mobiles are doomed.

109 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:10:40pm

re: #107 freetoken

Oh, it is actually inevitable - all species of (multicellular) animals eventually to extinct. Either they are replaced by superior versions of themselves, or the entire line gets superseded.

However, humans will be (apparently) the first species to cognitively be aware of and unwilling to stop their own extinction.

As doomer as I am, I don't expect the Homo genus to go totally extinct anytime soon. Oh, we'll kill off the rest of the megafauna that is left, as well as most of the smaller animals and a good portion of the larger plant life... but even thousands of years from now, on a denuded planet, a few of our ancestors will be around, living off of jellyfish and crabgrass.

Yes. When I say "go extinct" I'm not thinking anytime soon either. Could very well be another 1,000 or more years from today.

110 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:11:31pm

re: #104 Gus 802

How people see my car...

111 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:12:49pm

re: #109 Gus 802

While we are denuding the planet quickly, our descendants could live on for hundreds of thousands of years.

Not in the billions, and maybe only in the hundreds of thousands, but that will be a big enough of a population to keep a megafauna species (of which we will be the last) viable.

112 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:13:42pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

How people see my car...

That image loads and then disappears on my end.

113 jaunte  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:14:50pm

re: #111 freetoken

Escamoles for dinner again?

114 Targetpractice  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:16:01pm

re: #113 jaunte

Escamoles for dinner again?

And that's yet another item on my "Never in a million years" list.

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:16:17pm

re: #107 freetoken

a few of our ancestors will be around, living off of jellyfish and crabgrass.

Bob's Iguana Bits.

*Spoiler Alert*

The kebabs are not made from iguanas.

116 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:17:13pm

re: #112 Gus 802

Just some throw-away internet humor. No biggie.

117 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:18:02pm

re: #111 freetoken

While we are denuding the planet quickly, our descendants could live on for hundreds of thousands of years.

Not in the billions, and maybe only in the hundreds of thousands, but that will be a big enough of a population to keep a megafauna species (of which we will be the last) viable.

I do know one thing. It won't matter in my lifetime but eventually the world population has to be controlled and capped at a certain level.

118 Gus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:18:26pm

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Just some throw-away internet humor. No biggie.

It loaded up long enough for me to see it. :)

119 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:18:31pm

this is great


Youtube Video
120 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:19:37pm

re: #83 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Perhaps. But trust me, after 20+ years in the service, both my folks don't even flinch at coffee that's been sitting for 6 hours anymore. The sentiment seems to be that as long as it ain't burning through the bottom of the cup, it's still drinkable.

I do that and, thankfully, my wife doesn't even notice. Of course, her dad was WWII navy... ;)

121 BongCrodny  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:19:40pm

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

Excellent observation. Maybe I can overlook you blasphemous position on The Nectar of the Divine Bean.

My best friend drinks enough coffee for four people. Does that balance out the numbers at all?

122 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:22:06pm

re: #75 jaunte

One more chemical factoid:

(Chemicals Used In Hydraulic Fracturing;
Committee on Energy and Commerce Minority Staff
April 2011)

At this rate, I won't be surprised if America sees its own equivalent of Bhopal (in the form of dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of people dying in a town from poisoned water)

Durr hurr, that's okay, cuz Teh Free Market™ will ensure it doesn't happen again! Derp.

123 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:25:26pm

re: #111 freetoken

While we are denuding the planet quickly, our descendants could live on for hundreds of thousands of years.

Not if we reach the sulphuric acid/Permian tipping point, and why wouldn't we? The ocean is tired of absorbing all our crap. Might as well start belching it right back us. You seem to think it's 1000s of years off; I think it could possibly happen before 2200. All the positive feedbacks are in place to make it happen.

124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:28:59pm

re: #119 SpaceJesus

That was epic. Better than what my neighbor from way back did to me, though it was funny as all hell.

I gave him a ride to the drive-thru, and let him do the ordering 'cuz I wasn't getting anything.

He put in a big order in an over the top, "flaming homosexual" voice, full of flirty innuendo that person taking the order didn't much appreciate. Then when we got to the window to pick it up he leans over, points at me and says "Sorry about my friend here, he can be a real jerk sometimes".

125 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:30:03pm

re: #121 BongCrodny

My best friend drinks enough coffee for four people. Does that balance out the numbers at all?

That sounds like the content of one of my cups of coffee. I also use it as replacement fluid for my car battery.

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:31:38pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. I have a good friend I should pull that on...

127 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:32:48pm

Another school board in another podunk, USA, town decides to tackle the evil of Evolution:


Kiel School District wrestles with 'origin of man' teachings

Although the mention of intelligent design or creationism in public school science classrooms has been struck down by federal courts, the Kiel School District is considering how to present freshmen with a “balanced” view of the various theories of the origin of man.

The Kiel School Board will discuss those alternate theories at its meeting tonight, though no action is planned.

The issue kicked off last fall, when Kiel resident Patty Kubetz sent the School Board a letter asking why only evolution is presented to freshmen science students.

[...]

Kubetz, who home-schools her own children, said she is not trying to coax the school district into teaching intelligent design or creationism. Rather, she said, she just wants to make sure students are made aware that there is more than one way to consider how man came to exist.

[...]

Kubetz’s husband, Randy Kubetz, is a member of the Kiel School Board, and the Kubetzes run a website called Wisconsin Citizens Involvement, which encourages community involvement and supports constitutional values and states’ rights.

[...]

Though she acknowledges her family’s strong Christian background, Kubetz said her interest in having this statement read is independent of her religious faith and doesn’t believe it would violate the Constitution.

[...]

... Superintendent Louise Blankenheim, adding that the board’s inclusion of this issue at a meeting is no different than how it handles any community concerns.

“It’s not something the board itself has determined to include as part of the agenda,” Blankenheim said. “They’re just responding to a letter from a community member. This is how they react to any type of topics brought to their attention.”

Although Blankenheim declined to comment on whether she believes mentioning intelligent design in class is appropriate, she allowed that strong feelings on either side make the topic worthy of at least a discussion.

[...]

Kubetz said she only wanted to open up the discussion, and the outcome will depend upon the will of the community.

“If the community does not want it, all they have to do is come to the meeting and say ‘I’m in support of it,’ or ‘I’m not in support of it,’” Kubetz said. “If more people are not in support of it, I will drop it. I’m not going to fight for something the community doesn’t want. I’m simply getting the ball rolling.”

Ah yes, feelings, everybody's got feelings.

Shouldn't we be more sensitive to the feelings of creationists?

128 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:35:49pm

re: #126 wlewisiii

At least he is a good friend. Me and my neighbor were just getting to know each other when he pulled that. I think he was trying to test how "gay tolerant" I might be.

129 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:38:24pm

re: #127 freetoken

Another school board in another podunk, USA, town decides to tackle the evil of Evolution:

Kiel School District wrestles with 'origin of man' teachings

Ah yes, feelings, everybody's got feelings.

Shouldn't we be more sensitive to the feelings of creationists?

If you homeschool your children, you should not be on the school board.

Just my two cents as a homeschooler.

I'm the board of my homeschool group.

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:39:39pm
Although Blankenheim declined to comment on whether she believes mentioning intelligent design in class is appropriate, she allowed that strong feelings on either side make the topic worthy of at least a discussion.

Not in a science class, it doesn't. Well, maybe a poli-sci class.

131 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:40:47pm

re: #129 EmmmieG

That's a typo. I'm on the board, I am not the board.

However, if you consider what I do the other four days of the week as my homeschool school, I am the board, principal, the teacher, the janitor, the home ec teacher, the lab assistant, the curriculum committee, and the PE teacher.

132 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:42:14pm

re: #123 publicityStunted

Not if we reach the sulphuric acid/Permian tipping point, and why wouldn't we? The ocean is tired of absorbing all our crap. ...

That's a poetic statement... but not a scientific one.

And, the P-T boundary extinction event wasn't instantaneous but appears to have been a series of events, some more gradual than others. And, the changes in the atmosphere suggested by the proxies is larger than what we are doing. Additionally, the P-T events may not be reproducible - that is, they may have resulted from a unique set of conditions that we can't replicate today.

133 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:42:45pm

re: #131 EmmmieG

Ever catch any of your students smoking in the boy's room?
:P

134 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:44:20pm

re: #129 EmmmieG

If you homeschool your children, you should not be on the school board.

The counter argument to that is that anyone who pays property taxes (even indirectly) in their community ought to be able to sit on whatever board spends those taxes.

135 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:45:49pm

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

Ever catch any of your students smoking in the boy's room?
:P

No, but we've had a few fires in the toaster oven and a deliberate puffball of flame on the front porch. (Hydrogen gas demo)

136 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:48:18pm

re: #134 freetoken

The counter argument to that is that anyone who pays property taxes (even indirectly) in their community ought to be able to sit on whatever board spends those taxes.

I see that thought, but if you have deliberately turned your back on the school system, that says a lot. I would say that people who have a personal investment in the school system should be considered first for positions. That includes retired teachers and those who have worked with youth on a volunteer basis.

137 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:50:21pm

re: #135 EmmmieG

No, but we've had a few fires in the toaster oven and a deliberate puffball of flame on the front porch. (Hydrogen gas demo)

I think I am beginning to see a certain truth bleed through in your comments here.

You're not a home-school teacher, as you would have us believe. You're one of the descendants of Gomez and Morticia Addams.

138 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 9:52:17pm

re: #137 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I am beginning to see a certain truth bleed through in your comments here.

You're not a home-school teacher, as you would have us believe. You're one of the descendants of Gomez and Morticia Addams.

I have already told the parents of my science class students that I am actually training them up to my minions for when I take over the world. They just nod. When you volunteer to teach a science class for kids, people are thrilled to drop them off and let you cut up the dead things. (That will be in about a month.)

139 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:10:01pm

re: #138 EmmmieG

I have already told the parents of my science class students that I am actually training them up to my minions for when I take over the world. They just nod. When you volunteer to teach a science class for kids, people are thrilled to drop them off and let you cut up the dead things. (That will be in about a month.)

Really, I wasn't intending to dissect the thread. It can come back to life now.

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:10:50pm

re: #138 EmmmieG

Ah. I was too hasty with my Addams assumption. Clearly you are the daughter of Dr. Frankenstein.

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:11:27pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah. I was too hasty with my Addams assumption. Clearly you are the daughter of Dr. Frankenstein.

re: #139 EmmmieG

Really, I wasn't intending to dissect the thread. It can come back to life now.

I knew it!

142 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:17:26pm

Heh,

God Bless & good night.

143 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:22:07pm

G'nite.

144 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:42:58pm
A new poll from Public Policy Polling (D) shows that while former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is sewing up the Republican nomination, the process is dragging him down in key swing states — PPP numbers from Ohio show that a 56 percent majority of general election voters now view Romney unfavorably, which leads to a seven point deficit in a matchup with President Obama.

Obama leads Romney 49 - 42 in the new Ohio poll, a state where the political ground has shifted greatly over the last few months. After the massive defeat of SB 5, the anti-union legislation pushed by state Republicans, Obama has seen a major turnaround in his numbers on the ground.

Back in October, PPP’s President Dean Debnam said that were the election to have been held then, Obama would have lost. PPP’s analysis at the time suggested it would be hard to see more support coming to the president as the election got closer. The SB 5 vote moved the state back toward Obama in PPP’s November poll, resulting in a nine point lead, and it seems that trend is continuing into the new year.

145 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 10:51:45pm
"A man who gives a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life when viewed from the inside is simply a series of defeats."

On that happy note, I bid you all good night.

146 freetoken  Wed, Feb 1, 2012 11:33:36pm
MP3 Audio
147 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 12:49:40am

re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth

On that happy note, I bid you all good night.

I guessed Ambrose Bierce, but Google says it's Orwell...

148 researchok  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 1:26:51am

Morning, all

149 boxhead  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 2:08:57am

re: #148 researchok

Morning, all

same to you

150 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 3:46:41am

dead fred

151 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 3:52:50am

Good Morning Honcos!!!

152 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:12:57am

re: #151 rwdflynavy

Good Morning Honcos!!!

Hello? Echo, Echo

[Thinking to himself]
Ted Striker: I've got to concentrate...
[his thoughts echo]
Ted Striker: concentrate... concentrate... I've got to concentrate... concentrate... concentrate... Hello?... hello... hello... Echo... echo... echo... Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...

153 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:14:44am

re: #152 rwdflynavy

HAve you ever seen a grown man naked?

154 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:18:24am

re: #153 Shropshire_Slasher

Reporter: What kind of plane is it?
Johnny: Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big Tylenol.

155 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:19:31am

re: #154 rwdflynavy

Youtube Video
156 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:19:52am

re: #154 rwdflynavy

The actor who played Johnny stole the show, he died too young.

157 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:24:26am

Striker, listen, and you listen close: flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

158 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:26:29am

Don't hire FBI agents with dyslexia:
[Link: boston.cbslocal.com...]
I'm a husqvarna man, but I love the sound of Stihls, or a tuned and ported Dolmar. Mmmm, I can almost smell the 2-cycle exhaust!

159 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:26:54am

re: #157 rwdflynavy

Have you ever seen Leslie Nielsen in a serious role, before he became a comic actor?

In retrospect, he's hilarious in those roles.

160 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:27:44am

'Morning, all. It's 60f here in pre-dawn Baja Alabama, warm by any standard.*

*Yeah, weather is not climate.

161 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:28:16am

re: #159 Obdicut

Have you ever seen Leslie Nielsen in a serious role, before he became a comic actors?

In retrospect, he's hilarious in those roles.

Or just great--Forbidden Planet.

162 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:28:50am

re: #159 Obdicut

Have you ever seen Leslie Nielsen in a serious role, before he became a comic actors?

In retrospect, he's hilarious in those roles.

I think he was one of the great comic actors of all time. I have always been partial to dry humor.

163 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:29:13am

re: #159 Obdicut

Surely you can't be serious

164 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:29:21am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Or just great--Forbidden Planet.

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Or just great--Forbidden Planet.

Watched that with my kids the other week. Oldest daughter found it boring, younger daughter found it fascinating.

165 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:29:49am

There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?

166 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:31:15am

re: #164 ralphieboy

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Watched that with my kids the other week. Oldest daughter found it boring, younger daughter found it fascinating.

Robot fascination fades with puberty in girls? There was to be a remake a year or so ago, I don't know why.

167 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:33:26am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Robot fascination fades with puberty in girls? There was to be a remake a year or so ago, I don't know why.

older daughter found it "too talky". Younger daughter was fascinated by the psycho stuff. And I still play chasing youngest daughter about shouting "Monsters from the Id! Monsters from the Id!"

And heck, it had the first fully electronic soundtrack with the theremin.

168 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:35:37am

re: #167 ralphieboy

older daughter found it "too talky". Younger daughter was fascinated by the psycho stuff. And I still play chasing youngest daughter about shouting "Monsters from the Id! Monsters from the Id!"

And heck, it had the first fully electronic soundrrack with the theremin.

They had me just because we were riding the flying saucer. Vaguely associate the opening shot with the opening Star Destroyer in Star Wars.

169 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:38:02am

re: #168 Decatur Deb

They had me just because we were riding the flying saucer. Vaguely associate the opening shot with the opening Star Destroyer in Star Wars.

Had the Nazis won WWII we would all be riding around in flying saucers - from the Hollow Earth, of course.

170 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:41:47am

One more...

Ted Striker: Mayday! Mayday!
Steve McCroskey: What the heck is that?
Johnny: Why, that's the Russian New Year. We can have a parade and serve hot hors d'oeuvres...

171 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:42:13am

- Monsters from the Id!
- Monsters from the Id!
- Calm down, buddy,
Freud was full of shit.

//

172 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:42:20am

re: #169 ralphieboy

Had the Nazis won WWII we would all be riding around in flying saucers - from the Hollow Earth, of course.

A kid in my era at Univ of KY built a neat little flying saucer by 'bending' a high-profile wing into a torus and mounting a .049 engine in the tunnel formed by the chord.

173 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:44:25am

re: #171 Sergey Romanov

- Monsters from the Id!
- Monsters from the Id!
- Calm down, buddy,
Freud was full of shit.

//

After all, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.//

174 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:45:25am

re: #173 rwdflynavy

After all, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.//

In Ru version it's a banana. ;)

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:45:57am

Phil's a phuckin' liar. We haven't had six weeks of winter, yet.

176 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:47:22am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

A kid in my era at Univ of KY built a neat little flying saucer by 'bending' a high-profile wing into a torus and mounting a .049 engine in the tunnel formed by the chord.

Wouldn't that be a flying doughnut?

177 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:51:21am

re: #176 EdDantes

Wouldn't that be a flying doughnut?

He shaped it leading-edge inwards, and the taper to the outer 'trailing' edge made it aspherical. It was for fun, and he never tried to control it. The difference in mass between the prop and the fixed body gave the saucer a nice stabilizing rotation.

178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:55:34am

Ever typed a comment, hit "post it". then realize the comment was stupid and quickly exit LGF while "post it" is still gray?

I just did that... and it works.

179 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:57:56am

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Come on, now I'm all curious what the dumb post was. Spill.

180 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:57:58am

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever typed a comment, hit "post it". then realize the comment was stupid and quickly exit LGF while "post it" is still gray?

I just did that... and it works.

Self-censorship is for the faint-of-heart, Grasshopper.

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:58:41am

re: #179 Obdicut

Nah... It was crazier than a bag of frogs.

182 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 4:59:17am

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever typed a comment, hit "post it". then realize the comment was stupid and quickly exit LGF while "post it" is still gray?

I just did that... and it works.

But don't rely on it. One day it you will close too late ;)

183 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:00:28am

re: #174 Sergey Romanov

In Ru version it's a banana. ;)

In Soviet Union banana smoke you!
;)

184 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:01:00am

re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah... It was crazier than a bag of frogs.

Was it dumber than a bag of wet mice?

185 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:01:10am

Enough daylight to walk the dog--BBL

186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:03:31am

re: #176 EdDantes

Wouldn't that be a flying doughnut?

Ich bin ein fliegend Berliner?

187 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:04:42am

re: #174 Sergey Romanov

In Ru version it's a banana. ;)

In Soviet Russia, banana is YOU!!!

188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:07:40am

re: #184 Obdicut

Was it dumber than a bag of wet mice?

I heard "bag of frogs" yesterday (in a book), thought it was funny.

Dumber than a sack of hammers (from Oh Brother, Where Art Thou)
Dumber than a bag of dicks (from a really pretty woman that I once knew)

Now, I have bag of wet mice (thanks, Obdi) and, crazier than a bag of frogs.

You don't even need alliteration for those to work.

189 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:08:23am

Hmm, Taco Bell tied to samonella outbreak last fall.

[Link: vitals.msnbc.msn.com...]

I expect that will leave a mark.

190 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:11:35am

Morning Lizardim from the cold and foggy wild north country. The fog froze overnight, but not to the roads, since they are solidly caked in road salt by this point of the year. I feel like I need a shower now.

191 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:11:45am

re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard "bag of frogs" yesterday (in a book), thought it was funny.

Dumber than a sack of hammers (from Oh Brother, Where Art Thou)
Dumber than a bag of dicks (from a really pretty woman that I once knew)

Now, I have bag of wet mice (thanks, Obdi) and, crazier than a bag of frogs.

You don't even need alliteration for those to work.

My brother uses "like a wedge"; e.g. simplist tool in the drawer.

192 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:12:13am

re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Bag of wet mice" is from Rich Hall, I can't claim credit.

193 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:12:17am

re: #190 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim from the cold and foggy wild north country. The fog froze overnight, but not to the roads, since they are solidly caked in road salt by this point of the year. I feel like I need a shower now.

Ah winter. When the default color of all cars is white.

194 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:13:34am

re: #193 oaktree

Ah winter. When the default color of all cars is white.

Minnesota car washes rake in millions of dollars over the winter months on the days they are able to remain open. This allows them to subsist for the remainder of the year on minimal income.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:13:55am

re: #192 Obdicut

Rich used to have a funny bit. Words for things ("sniglets?").

Alponium... the odor issued forth as a can of pet food is opened.

196 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:14:56am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

As I recall, you can't watch Quite Interesting because the UK accents throw you. Pity-- Rich Hall is great on that show.

Youtube Video
197 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:17:48am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rich used to have a funny bit. Words for things ("sniglets?").

Alponium... the odor issued forth as a can of pet food is opened.

Heh. Good one.

I can track air circulation in my apartment by timing appearance of cats from when I open a can of cat food. And I know in one case it is not them hearing me peel the top off since he is mostly if not totally deaf.

And I've timed a cat going from sound nap in bed room to in front of dish in kitchen awaiting food to about four seconds.

198 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:19:54am

My dogs and cats don't get soft food, but they always come running when I open a can of Spam, what gives?!

199 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:24:32am

re: #198 Shropshire_Slasher

My dogs and cats don't get soft food, but they always come running when I open a can of Spam, what gives?!

Our family cat was actually quite fond of Spam. Especially since I fried it a bit first and served it with eggs. So she hung around and got a few scraps.

Current cats are bacon fans. They have also picked up on slow cooker pork shoulder.

200 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:27:21am

re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard "bag of frogs" yesterday (in a book), thought it was funny.

Dumber than a sack of hammers (from Oh Brother, Where Art Thou)
Dumber than a bag of dicks (from a really pretty woman that I once knew)

Now, I have bag of wet mice (thanks, Obdi) and, crazier than a bag of frogs.

You don't even need alliteration for those to work.

dumber than a box of rocks

201 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:27:44am

re: #199 oaktree

Our family cat was actually quite fond of Spam. Especially since I fried it a bit first and served it with eggs. So she hung around and got a few scraps.

Current cats are bacon fans. They have also picked up on slow cooker pork shoulder.

My feline overlord is a chicken fanatic. He is the one who also seems to like cheese, as I've caught him licking my pizza before. My wife's feline overlord, Basement Cat, likes potatoes.

202 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:28:13am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rich used to have a funny bit. Words for things ("sniglets?").

Alponium... the odor issued forth as a can of pet food is opened.

Stipulate: to incoherently mumble the words to an REM song

203 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:29:04am

Good morning lizards!

204 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:29:14am

re: #50 Gus 802

Right. And since it's a "trade secret" they can't reveal the chemical make-up. Strange but true in their little Randian world-view.

Then they surely won't mind if I put some unidentified substances in their corporate water softener tank.

205 Indepublicrat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:31:35am

Interesting that Prime Burger and the first McDonald's restaurant opened within a year of each other as businesses of about the same size, offering the same product to roughly the same demographic--although Prime probably saw more foot-traffic in Manhattan than McDonald's had in San Bernadino.

Prime Burger concentrated on quality, tradition, and personalized service. Today, their single restaurant is a beloved nostalgia joint that's essentially unchanged from decades ago.

McDonald's concentrated on turning the burger into a commodity, getting it out the door as fast as possible, and franchising that experience to other communities. Today, they have over 33,000 locations in 119 countries, with $24 billion in annual revenues.

Just saying.

206 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:32:55am

re: #201 thedopefishlives

My feline overlord is a chicken fanatic. He is the one who also seems to like cheese, as I've caught him licking my pizza before. My wife's feline overlord, Basement Cat, likes potatoes.

Oh they like poultry and cheese. If I microwave cheese on crackers they will lick the excess melted cheese off the plate if I let them.

There is also a ProPlan canned food that is sliced turkey in gravy with cheddar cheese bits in it. MOAR! NOW! MOAR!
(Canned food is default with the kitties now since it helps keep them hydrated in their old age.)

207 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:33:17am

re: #205 Indepublicrat

The American Southwest and Midwest were full of wide-open spaces and endless streches of road, just the sort of setting that burger joints nestle into.

208 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:33:18am

Iran was working on US-range missile

Iran was working on developing a missile with 10,000 km range that would put America in reach of a potential Iranian attack, Strategic Affairs Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon said Thursday.

According to Ya'alon, the missile was based on a solid fuel propellant and would have been able to significantly increase Iran's offensive capabilities. Last month, a mysterious explosion rocked an Iranian missile base near Tehran where Iran was working on developing this long range missile

209 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:34:24am

re: #205 Indepublicrat

Interesting that Prime Burger and the first McDonald's restaurant opened within a year of each other as businesses of about the same size, offering the same product to roughly the same demographic--although Prime probably saw more foot-traffic in Manhattan than McDonald's had in San Bernadino.

Prime Burger concentrated on quality, tradition, and personalized service. Today, their single restaurant is a beloved nostalgia joint that's essentially unchanged from decades ago.

McDonald's concentrated on turning the burger into a commodity, getting it out the door as fast as possible, and franchising that experience to other communities. Today, they have over 33,000 locations in 119 countries, with $24 billion in annual revenues.

Just saying.

But if you had one last meal to eat today before being executed and had to choose between the two, which would you eat in?

210 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:34:27am

re: #208 Killgore Trout

Iran was working on US-range missile

You know they really need to unclench their fist.

211 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:35:44am

re: #208 Killgore Trout

Iran was working on US-range missile

I'll be worried if they can actually test-fire one out into the open ocean. Until that point, rocket science is not as easy as it looks.

212 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:35:58am

re: #209 oaktree

But if you had one last meal to eat today before being executed and had to choose between the two, which would you eat in?

Ronald McDonald with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

213 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:36:36am

News from my neck of the woods...

Albemarle deputies brave fighting rooster while trying to deliver summons

A deputy became a victim of “fowl” play while attempting to deliver a summons Monday, according to Albemarle County Sheriff Chip Harding.

The incident occurred when Tom Wood and two fellow deputies surrounded a house on Mountain View Drive to deliver a summons to Sara Bishop Gibson, 34, for failing to appear in court.

Harding said Wood pulled out a can of mace while “keeping a close eye on a dog in the yard that did not appear to appreciate him being there.”

“All of a sudden he heard a sound of wings beating, and a large rooster hit him beak first just below the belt hard enough to double him over,” Harding said.

Wood reflexively sprayed mace at the rooster, but it had no effect on the bird.

“The bird never gave any ground,” Harding said.

Harding said the rooster went back to walking around the yard and eating as Wood’s fellow deputies collapsed into hysterics.

“It turns out that no one was home so the deputies continue their dangerous quest,” Harding said.

214 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:37:50am

re: #213 NJDhockeyfan

I have been attacked by domestic geese

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:38:23am

re: #213 NJDhockeyfan

News from my neck of the woods...

Albemarle deputies brave fighting rooster while trying to deliver summons

I see OWS has spread its nefarious roots into the animal world! /

216 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:38:26am

re: #214 ralphieboy

I have been attacked by domestic geese

Vicious little dinosaurs.

217 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:38:34am

re: #214 ralphieboy

I have been attacked by domestic geese

Geese are serious business, man. Those suckers bite hard.

218 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:38:40am

re: #214 ralphieboy

I have been attacked by domestic geese

Who hasn't been?

219 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:38:55am

re: #211 thedopefishlives

I'll be worried if they can actually test-fire one out into the open ocean. Until that point, rocket science is not as easy as it looks.

They working on it and eventually they'll figure it out.

221 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:40:50am

re: #208 Killgore Trout

Iran was working on US-range missile

Israeli higher-ups are itching to attack Iran with US' help. So take this news coming from Yaalon with a grain of salt.

222 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:41:08am

re: #218 Sergey Romanov

Who hasn't been?

A friend of mine was chased by a flock of Canada geese on a golf course once. He tried to shoo them away from a golf ball, they concentrated while heading away from him, and then seemed to realize that they outnumbered him 50:1. At that point they did a 180 turn as a group and headed right for him. I wish I had gotten a picture of him running with fifty geese chasing after him and honking.

223 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:41:28am

re: #214 ralphieboy

I have been attacked by domestic geese

Geese are mean bastards, in addition to being a bitch to clean. That's why Americans have been trained by the poultry industry to prefer turkeys. But Europeans (Hungarians especially) sure does love them some roast geese.

Zedushka still talks about a roast goose dinner that he had at a Hungarian restaurant in Israel over 40 years ago.

224 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:42:27am

re: #208 Killgore Trout

Iran was working on US-range missile

You'd think for 10,000 km range and being less noticable during development they would work on cruise missile designs.

225 AK-47%  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:43:05am

re: #223 Alouette

Geese are mean bastards, in addition to being a bitch to clean. That's why Americans have been trained by the poultry industry to prefer turkeys. But Europeans (Hungarians especially) sure does love them some roast geese.

Zedushka still talks about a roast goose dinner that he had at a Hungarian restaurant in Israel over 40 years ago.

We did roast goose one Christmas, as it is also the German tradition. The whole nine yards, with red cabbage and potato dumplings. It was very good, but I don't think I will do it again....way too greasy.

226 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:43:19am

There was a Hungarian kosher butcher who would always have goose for the holidays, especially Hanukkah. But he retired years ago. Nobody else wants to mess (and I do mean big mess!) with geese.

227 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:43:23am

re: #219 Killgore Trout

They working on it and eventually they'll figure it out.

Honestly, I don't care if they do. More power to them. We have enough Minuteman and Trident missiles to detach Iran from the Asian continent. If they want to pretend they're a big bad grown-up military, let them. I'm sorry, I am not going to live in fear that an Iranian missile is going to come crashing down on my head. The US simply will not let it get that far.

228 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:45:11am

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Occupy Oakland: Police release video of City Hall break-in

Video here:[Link: oakland.granicus.com...]

The surveillance video, taken Saturday, shows a man prying open the front door with a crowbar and a crowd streaming in, dumping garbage on the floor and stealing an American flag that they then burn on the building’s front steps.

"God bless them"
~Nancy Pelosi

229 Indepublicrat  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:45:21am

re: #209 oaktree

But if you had one last meal to eat today before being executed and had to choose between the two, which would you eat in?

That's tough. I love the idea of Prime Burger and the atmosphere of the place but the burger itself about average for what you might expect from a mid-priced family chain like TGIFriday's or UNO's. In my hypothetical prison cell on death row, I might actually find a Big Mac more comforting. I've eaten a whole lot more of them over my life and associate them with fond memories of family and friends.

230 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:46:15am

re: #228 NJDhockeyfan

"God bless them"
~Nancy Pelosi

Assholes.

Ding. Pelosi never said that about the flag-burners.

231 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:46:28am

re: #228 NJDhockeyfan

"God bless them"
~Nancy Pelosi

Assholes.

Was the Pelosi quote actually made in reaction to the actions shown in the video?

232 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:47:22am

re: #231 oaktree

Was the Pelosi quote actually made in reaction to the actions shown in the video?

No, it's just a lie.

233 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:49:43am

re: #230 Sergey Romanov

Ding. Pelosi never said that about the flag-burners.

Just the OWS protesters. Here's the full quote:

"God bless them for their spontaneity. It's independent ... it's young, it's spontaneous, and it's focused. And it's going to be effective."

Who broke into City Hall?

234 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:50:57am

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

Just the OWS protesters. Here's the full quote:


Who broke into City Hall?

What date is the quote from? And on what date was City Hall broken into?

235 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:51:18am

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

Who broke into City Hall?

You're projecting the actions of a few onto the whole group. Again.

236 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:53:16am

re: #235 thedopefishlives

You're projecting the actions of a few onto the whole group. Again.

It's just a few™!
It was only one™!
It was just a handful™!

237 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:53:46am

re: #233 NJDhockeyfan

Just the OWS protesters.

Indeed. So your quote was inapplicable.

238 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:54:18am

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

It's just a few™!
It was only one™!
It was just a handful™!

Just like Tom Tancredo.

239 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:55:42am

re: #235 thedopefishlives

You're projecting the actions of a few onto the whole group. Again.

It's not that, even. Current OWS is a bust. He is projecting the actions in time. Then he complains about "awful" generalizing comments about the right here.

240 Decatur Deb  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:56:16am

re: #200 ralphieboy

dumber than a box of rocks

"Crazier than a shithouse rat" goes back a long way. In WWII it morphed into Outhouse Mouse, a name used by a famous B17 and various lesser aircraft.

Image: Out-House-Mouse-crew.jpg

241 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:56:55am

re: #239 Sergey Romanov

It's not that, even. Current OWS is a bust. He is projecting the actions in time. Then he complains about "awful" generalizing comments about the right here.

I haven't complained about that. It goes with the territory of politics.

242 EdDantes  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:57:25am

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever typed a comment, hit "post it". then realize the comment was stupid and quickly exit LGF while "post it" is still gray?

I just did that... and it works.

No. All my stupid asinine posts appear. But I'll keep that in mind.

243 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 5:59:06am

re: #241 NJDhockeyfan

I haven't complained about that. It goes with the territory of politics.

Hmm.

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re: #26 dragonfire1981

It's pretty obvious the right wing has fantasies about putting Obama on a slave ship and sending him back to Africa.

That's a pretty fucked up comment. I expect something like that posted at DU, HuffPo, or DKos but not here.

244 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:00:00am

re: #235 thedopefishlives

You're projecting the actions of a few onto the whole group. Again.

For sure. The problem is now that the "few" are the only ones out there anymore as far as the current protests for Occupy movement. 90% of the people who were involved at the start, no longer go to these things and camp out. Why would they. Its a total clusterfuck of causes with some idiot troublemakers hijacking the events to cause mayhem. I think the best thing the Occupy movement could do is distance itself from these current protests, regroup and organize for the Spring with major initiatives. Camping out is not a strategy, not one that rational working people can be involved in anyways.

245 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:00:06am

re: #238 Sergey Romanov

Behold!

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re: #84 makeitstop

This one took all of three seconds to find:

Tancredo: Send Obama 'back' to Kenya

Ughh...that is ugly. I'm glad he doesn't represent the party as a whole.

It was only one™!

246 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:00:48am

re: #245 Sergey Romanov

Behold!

Ughh...that is ugly. I'm glad he doesn't represent the party as a whole.

It was only one™!

It was only one!

247 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:01:06am

re: #244 Petero1818

For sure. The problem is now that the "few" are the only ones out there anymore

It's true, but we were not talking about that. We were talking about how dishonest it is to apply Pelosi's words about the early OWS to the late OWS.

248 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:01:59am

re: #246 NJDhockeyfan

It was only one™!

It was only one!

There's already two. Don't make yourself look any worse.

249 Petero1818  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:02:43am

re: #247 Sergey Romanov

It's true, but we were not talking about that. We were talking about how dishonest it is to apply Pelosi's words about early OWS to late OWS.

It was dishonest. I agree completely. But it is too easy. That is why Occupy should attempt to distance itself and NOW. The movement is being substantially discredited every day. Rightly or wrongly. That is reality.

250 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:03:42am

re: #249 Petero1818

It was dishonest. I agree completely. But it is too easy. That is why Occupy should attempt to distance itself and NOW. The movement is being substantially discredited every day. Rightly or wrongly. That is reality.

Uh, that's a bit too late. It has been dead for a month or so. What you see are decomposing remains.

251 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:06:37am

Occupy Super Bowl!!!

252 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:06:45am

Family of Slain Border Agent Files $25M Claim

The family of a slain U.S. Border Patrol agent filed a $25 million wrongful death claim against the federal government on Wednesday.

The 65-page document that's a precursor to a lawsuit was filed in Phoenix and claims Brian Terry was killed because U.S. investigators allowed murder weapons into the hands of criminals, The Arizona Republic ([Link: bit.ly...] reported.

...Terry's family claims federal agents were negligent and acted "in violation of ATF's own policies and procedures."

The claim was filed on behalf of Terry's parents as well as surviving siblings. In it, family members criticize federal authorities for attempting to cover up the flawed strategy in Fast and Furious and its connection with Terry's death.

It also said that family members met last March with former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, who resigned amid the scandal. The claim alleges he incorrectly said that guns found at the scene were from a store in Texas and that the fatal bullet would never be found even though it was recovered during an autopsy.

This could get ugly.

253 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:07:15am

re: #251 Shropshire_Slasher

Occupy Super Bowl!!!

And shit in the Bowl for a change! //

254 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:08:07am

re: #253 Sergey Romanov

oatmeal..shoooting.out.of.nose!

255 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:09:08am

re: #253 Sergey Romanov

And shit in the Bowl for a change! //

Set up tents on the 50 yard line!

256 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:09:20am

re: #254 Shropshire_Slasher

oatmeal..shoooting.out.of.nose!

It was a calculated attempt on your life! //

257 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:10:40am

Morning all!

Ever get the feeling you are being watched?

How goes your morning?

258 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:11:40am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

Family of Slain Border Agent Files $25M Claim

This could get ugly.

Oh geez, and it starts . . .

Fast and Furious is going to blow-up things just like the GOP wants it to. Holder better take responsibility.

259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:12:31am

Since it's apparent that you're not going to acknowledge and withdraw your "exaggeration" in trying to tie the Pelosi quote to the Occupy Oakland City Hall break-in I'll supply the little piece of data that the quote by Pelosi was made on October 6, 2011 and it generally taken as applying to the activities of Occupy: Wall Street in NYC.

So you tossed out a piece of bullshit by attempting to smear Pelosi with your comment. Leaving that out and simply calling the perpetrators of the recent action assholes was fine. But you had to convert it into a smear, got called on it, and are now running off to stir other pots.

(spit)

260 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:12:38am

Luckily Occupy Super Bowl 46 is not seen as a threat:
[Link: www.google.com...]

261 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:13:39am

re: #222 oaktree

A friend of mine was chased by a flock of Canada geese on a golf course once. He tried to shoo them away from a golf ball, they concentrated while heading away from him, and then seemed to realize that they outnumbered him 50:1. At that point they did a 180 turn as a group and headed right for him. I wish I had gotten a picture of him running with fifty geese chasing after him and honking.

Don't some golf courses "employ" border collies to control the geese? Or is that an urban legend?

262 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:15:30am

re: #258 ggt

Oh geez, and it starts . . .

Fast and Furious is going to blow-up things just like the GOP wants it to. Holder better take responsibility.

He's going to get the opportunity today...

Attorney General Eric Holder Set to Take Hot Seat at Fast and Furious Hearing

263 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:16:58am

re: #262 NJDhockeyfan

He's going to get the opportunity today...

Attorney General Eric Holder Set to Take Hot Seat at Fast and Furious Hearing

Wut, again?

264 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:19:47am

Hot seat? Is that when pants are on fire? /

265 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:20:47am

Can you say: B U L L S H I T?

"We are alarmed and saddened that the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation appears to have succumbed to political pressure," Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said on Tuesday. "Our greatest desire is for Komen to reconsider this policy and recommit to the partnership on which so many women count."

Critics of the decision have pointed to the fact that Komen recently hired a vice president who had pushed for the defunding of Planned Parenthood during a gubernatorial run.

According to Komen, the decision was born not out of political pressure but rather as part of an ongoing effort to exact "stronger performance criteria for our grantees."

"Starting in 2010, Komen began an initiative to help us do a better job of measuring the impact of community grants," the statement said. "This is important because we invest significant dollars in our local community programs--$93 million in 2011, which provided for 700,000 breast health screenings and diagnostic procedures." (According to Planned Parenthood, it received roughly $680,000 worth of Komen grants in 2011 and $580,000 in 2010.)

Among the new criteria, according to Komen, is the implementation of "more stringent eligibility standards to safeguard donor dollars" - including a clause which prohibits Komen from giving money to organizations that are under local, state or federal investigations. Planned Parenthood is currently being investigated by the House oversight and investigations subcommittee over its funding.

"Some might argue that our standards are too exacting, but over the past three decades people have given us more than just their money," the statement said. "They have given us their trust and we take that responsibility very seriously."

Komen said it was regrettable that longstanding grantees such as Planned Parenthood had been "impacted" but emphasized that they "want to be absolutely clear that our grant-making decisions are not about politics."

Even so, the foundation has over the last 24 hours been subject to a number of attacks from women's health advocates, who saw the decision as part of an ongoing effort by conservative Republicans to take down Planned Parenthood."

So easy, PP is always going to be investigated because someone is always going to be trying to put them out-of-business. Nice, convenient, policy to cut their funding.

Except that no one believes them.

266 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:21:33am

re: #261 ggt

Don't some golf courses "employ" border collies to control the geese? Or is that an urban legend?

Only golf course I've been on that had a border collie there the collie "herded" the golf carts.
:)

267 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:21:56am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Today's big news isn't in NYC, but rather the UK, where a lawmaker has intimated that law enforcement is focusing on the Times of London in their widening investigation into the News Corp. hacking scandal.

The lawmaker, Tom Watson, from the opposition Labour Party, who has been a central figure in the inquiries into phone hacking, said in a message on Twitter that Scotland Yard had “confirmed to me they are investigating” The Times “over e-mail hacking.”

A spokesman for Scotland Yard, who spoke in return for anonymity under departmental rules, said officers investigating hacking were “in contact with Mr. Watson in relation to specific issues he wishes to raise” after he sent the police a letter on Jan. 23. But the spokesman declined to confirm specifically that The Times was under investigation.

News International, the British newspaper arm of the Murdoch media empire, said it had no immediate comment on Mr. Watson’s message.

The development was significant in two regards: it focused attention on e-mail hacking rather than the illicit voice mail interception at the center of inquiries so far, and it suggested that the most august of the Murdoch publications in Britain was not immune from scrutiny.

The case apparently was related to an episode in 2009 when a reporter who has since left The Times of London exposed the identity of a police officer who blogged under the pseudonym Nightjack, according to British news reports.

James Harding, the editor of The Times of London, said in written testimony to a formal inquiry into press conduct last month that “there was an incident where the newsroom was concerned that a reporter had gained unauthorized access to an e-mail account.”

The reporter “was issued with a formal written warning for professional misconduct,” Mr. Harding said.

268 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:22:00am

re: #262 NJDhockeyfan

He's going to get the opportunity today...

Attorney General Eric Holder Set to Take Hot Seat at Fast and Furious Hearing

Let's hope. I really don't want to hear about this from now until November. It could derail the election and I really hope the Obama Team realizes it.

269 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:22:18am

re: #264 Sergey Romanov

Hot seat? Is that when pants are on fire? /

Youtube Video
270 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:22:25am

re: #266 oaktree

Only golf course I've been on that had a border collie there the collie "herded" the golf carts.
:)

Easier to scam treats from?

271 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:22:55am

We have a beach here that employs a dog to chase the seagulls away.

272 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:23:12am

re: #267 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Today's big news isn't in NYC, but rather the UK, where a lawmaker has intimated that law enforcement is focusing on the Times of London in their widening investigation into the News Corp. hacking scandal.

Too bad this can't be an election issue --a/ k /a Fox News.

273 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:24:41am

re: #270 ggt

Easier to scam treats from?

It was a dog that appeared to take the job quite seriously. And since it was barking and nipping at the rear wheels of carts the riders were generally edgy about the dog.

And since it was "working" I did not want to mess with it either. Have met enough border collies to know that they're obsessive to the point I wonder why anyone would want one as a pet.

274 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:24:57am

re: #265 ggt

Can you say: B U L L S H I T?


So easy, PP is always going to be investigated because someone is always going to be trying to put them out-of-business. Nice, convenient, policy to cut their funding.

Except that no one believes them.

I thought Komen was supposed to be a non-profit foundation, dedicated to "finding a cure" for breast cancer. But they are acting like a big for-profit corporation with their mumbo jumbo. I wonder if they pay their executives bonuses out of the donated funds that are supposed to go into cancer research.

275 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:25:00am

re: #271 Amory Blaine

We have a beach here that employs a dog to chase the seagulls away.

Border collies hired to chase gulls off of Bradford Beach

276 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:26:17am

re: #261 ggt

Don't some golf courses "employ" border collies to control the geese? Or is that an urban legend?

Here is a way to curb the Canadian Geese problem...extend hunting season.

277 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:28:20am

re: #272 ggt

Too bad this can't be an election issue --a/ k /a Fox News.

Oh, it would certainly help if Papa Mu were caught in the net.

278 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:29:12am

Jimmy Carter Does It Again

"Well, of course, the religious leaders of Iran have sworn on their word of honor that they're not going to manufacture nuclear weapons. If they are lying, then I don't see that as a major catastrophe because they'll only have one or two military weapons. Israel probably has 300 or so."

279 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:29:56am

The "official" groundhog saw his shadow this morning.

Six more weeks of 60 F weather...

280 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:30:07am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Jimmy Carter Does It Again

Thank God he isn't president right now. What an idiot.

281 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:31:27am

re: #274 Alouette

We were having this discussion yesterday, and they indeed appear to have put fundraising and appearances above the goal of curing and preventing cancer.

So while they claim that they're doing this because PP is under investigation, it's a flimsy cover for the fact that some entities are always under investigation - politically motivated investigations at that. PP is targeted because of what PP does on an albeit small percentage of their overall services (providing abortion to those requesting it).

282 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:32:02am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

Thank God he isn't president right now. What an idiot.

I really wish he had stuck to his Habitat for Humanity thing and stayed out of international affairs. He's a real embarrassment and he seems to get worse over the years.

283 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:36:51am

re: #282 Killgore Trout

I really wish he had stuck to his Habitat for Humanity thing and stayed out of international affairs. He's a real embarrassment and he seems to get worse over the years.

A term for people like him is 'Useful Idiot'. I wonder what his opinion is of this?

Article on Iranian Website: "We Welcome War"

On the eve of the Iranian Navy's extensive Gulf maneuvers in December 2011, the conservative Serat News website, which is close to Hossein Shariatmadari, editor of the Kayhan newspaper, published an article by blogger Ali-Reza Forghani titled "We Welcome War." The article glorifies jihad and martyrdom against the U.S. and warns it and its leaders that not only do the Iranians have no fear of war, but they long to die in it. The article also set out details of threats, including suicide missions against American targets.

284 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:37:39am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Everyone seems to think that Israel has a couple hundred nuclear weapons since after they completed the Dimona facility. They've never acknowledged whether they have weapons or not, and have not tested a weapon. They've used the ambiguity as a defense in and of itself to ward off a potential attack, though that fell short during the first Gulf War when Saddam lobbed dozens of Scuds at Israel in an attempt to bring them into the fight and break up the coalition effort.

Now, Iran's mullahs have different intentions and Iran's nuclear infrastructure indicates a completely different tact. Far from being open about their nuclear ambitions, they've repeatedly hidden nuclear facilities, buried them underground, and spread them around the country. All while calling for genocidal rhetoric against Israel's existence mind you. Carter hears on what he wants to hear - that Iran is carrying out enrichment for peaceful purposes, but Iran's actions suggest something quite different.

Combine the nuclear program with an intention to develop and master intermediate range missiles capable of hitting Israel and other locales throughout the Middle East, and it's a threat to the region at large.

It's that latter part that has me wondering whether the recent spate of assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists aren't the result of the Saudi or other Arab countries trying to thwart Iran's ambitions (another chapter of the Sunni/Shi'a split) and regional hegemony among the Middle Eastern powers.

285 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:40:16am

re: #281 lawhawk

We were having this discussion yesterday, and they indeed appear to have put fundraising and appearances above the goal of curing and preventing cancer.

So while they claim that they're doing this because PP is under investigation, it's a flimsy cover for the fact that some entities are always under investigation - politically motivated investigations at that. PP is targeted because of what PP does on an albeit small percentage of their overall services (providing abortion to those requesting it).

In my opinion, Komen stopped being a non-profit foundation dedicated to finding a cure for cancer when they launched their "BUY PINK STUFF" campaign, which is to SELL PRODUCTS and maybe donate some minuscule percent to cancer research just to keep their 501(c)(3) status.

Now they exist to help corporations SELL PINK STUFF.

286 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:43:01am

Video: Pakistani Taliban execute 15 Frontier Constabulary personnel
Warning: The video of the Pakistani Taliban executing the 15 Frontier Constabulary personnel who were captured late last year is extremely graphic.

An unedited segment of the video showing the Pakistani Taliban executing 15 Frontier Constabulary personnel who were captured in the district of Tank at the end of December has emerged on the Internet.

The video, which was published on the LiveLeak video-sharing website, shows the 15 paramilitary men blindfolded and lined up along a hillside; some are handcuffed together. Taliban fighters then take turns gunning down the Pakistani troops, one at a time, with AK-47 assault rifles.

The graphic video shows the slain Pakistani security personnel falling to the ground as those still living remain standing. The Taliban are heard chanting, "We will cross all limits to avenge your blood."

287 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:45:25am

I am really, really freaking tired of religion interfering in my world:

NPR: Rift between Planned Parenthood and Susan G Komen

Before this action, Komen had lost out on donations from groups and individuals who opposed its ties to Planned Parenthood. Several Catholic dioceses around the country stopped supporting Komen because of the issue. So ending its funding for Planned Parenthood could restore some of those funding sources.

The Southern Baptist Convention's publishing division was also recently forced to pull its line of pink-bound Bibles because of complaints that some of the proceeds donated to Komen might be finding their way to Planned Parenthood.

On the other hand, numerous calls for boycotting Susan G. Komen and for supporting Planned Parenthood have sprung up on social media since Tuesday's decision.

288 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:46:13am

Mornin' everyone. It looks like the Donald will be endorsing Newt today. That should swing the Kardashian vote in Newt's favor.

289 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:46:44am

re: #276 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a way to curb the Canadian Geese problem...extend hunting season.

I don't know why hunters can't shoot them for the benefits of soup kitchens and food pantries.

Seems like a win-win to me.

290 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:47:01am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' everyone. It looks like the Donald will be endorsing Newt today. That should swing the Kardashian vote in Newt's favor.

What's a Kardashian?

291 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:47:14am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' everyone. It looks like the Donald will be endorsing Newt today. That should swing the Kardashian vote in Newt's favor.

Whoop de frickin' doo.

292 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:47:28am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

Thank God he isn't president right now. What an idiot.

Not so much an idiot as naive and ready to retire to the nice rest home by the sea.

293 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:48:02am

re: #290 NJDhockeyfan

What's a Kardashian?

Go look in the mirror.

294 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:48:05am

re: #289 ggt

I don't know why hunters can't shoot them for the benefits of soup kitchens and food pantries.

Seems like a win-win to me.

Thing with a lot of geese flocks is the same with the white-tail deer in that they hang out in places like industrial parks where there is no casual hunting.

295 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:48:36am

re: #284 lawhawk

It's that latter part that has me wondering whether the recent spate of assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists aren't the result of the Saudi or other Arab countries trying to thwart Iran's ambitions (another chapter of the Sunni/Shi'a split) and regional hegemony among the Middle Eastern powers.

I'm pretty sure the whole region is nervous and most of them are probably helping behind the scenes.

296 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:48:53am

re: #285 Alouette

In my opinion, Komen stopped being a non-profit foundation dedicated to finding a cure for cancer when they launched their "BUY PINK STUFF" campaign, which is to SELL PRODUCTS and maybe donate some minuscule percent to cancer research just to keep their 501(c)(3) status.

Now they exist to help corporations SELL PINK STUFF.

And organize bik-a-thons and Cure Breast Cancer Walks. It's all "rah-rah" feel good stuff -- nothing more.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:49:10am

re: #289 ggt

I don't know why hunters can't shoot them for the benefits of soup kitchens and food pantries.

Seems like a win-win to me.

I agree. They shit all over everything and are a general nuisance. They would look much better coming out of my oven.

298 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:50:03am

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

I agree. They shit all over everything and are a general nuisance. They would look much better coming out of my oven.

We DO have homeless and hungry PEOPLE.

Makes no sense to me.

299 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:50:52am

re: #293 darthstar

Go look in the mirror.

I'm Danish, English, Irish, German, and Hungarian. There is no Kardashian blood in my family.

300 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:51:14am

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

I agree. They shit all over everything and are a general nuisance. They would look much better coming out of my oven.

Wait. I know you hate OWS, but...

///

301 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:51:21am

re: #298 ggt

We DO have homeless and hungry PEOPLE.

Makes no sense to me.

Well, on one hand, over-hunting has been a chronic problem in the United States. On the other hand, Canadian geese are practically a pest in the United States. As long as populations are monitored, I don't see why it would be a problem to let the hunters off the leash a little bit more.

302 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:51:40am

Kardashian=Sheep?
Sheep aren't baaaaaaad

303 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:51:53am

re: #299 NJDhockeyfan

I'm Danish, English, Irish, German, and Hungarian. There is no Kardashian blood in my family.

Whoosh.

304 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:52:00am

So much for Carter's theory of one or two Iranian bombs...
Israel says Iran has material for four A-bombs

Israel estimated on Thursday that Iran could make four atomic bombs by further enriching uranium it has already stockpiled, and could produce its first within a year of deciding to build one.
....
Citing figures similar to those from the U.N. nuclear agency, Kochavi told Israel's annual Herzliya Conference on strategic affairs: "Iran has accumulated more than 4 tonnes of uranium enriched to a level of 3.5 percent and nearly 100 kilos at an enrichment level of 20 percent.

"This amount of material is already enough for four atomic bombs."

305 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:52:03am

re: #300 Sergey Romanov

Wait. I know you hate OWS, but...

///

The geese are more than welcome to occupy my oven.

306 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:52:22am

re: #291 thedopefishlives

The egos on display will pale in comparison to the rival hairdos. As if Donald's endorsement counts for anything. Now, if Donald was ponying up millions to fund Newt's PACs and superpacs, that's a different story.

307 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:53:55am

re: #301 thedopefishlives

Well, on one hand, over-hunting has been a chronic problem in the United States. On the other hand, Canadian geese are practically a pest in the United States. As long as populations are monitored, I don't see why it would be a problem to let the hunters off the leash a little bit more.

Issue permits just like deer and other game. The flock needs to be culled, IMHO. Not enough Coyotes in urban/suburban areas to do it.

308 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:55:33am

re: #304 Killgore Trout

That would still require significant time run through the centrifuges (the same ones that have been hit by Stuxnet et seq. reducing their overall numbers and processing capabilities to some degree). It wouldn't happen overnight, but they're developing the capabilities to develop a processing stream for weapons grade materials though at this time they don't appear to have any (90% enriched uranium versus the LEU of 5-20%).

309 Amory Blaine  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:56:08am

Animatronic Baby

Youtube Video
310 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:56:31am

Bad Lip Reading finally does Santorum

Youtube Video
311 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:58:39am

re: #309 Amory Blaine

Animatronic Baby

[Video]

Fucking robots. More dangerous than you think.

312 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:59:18am

Some good news: Most-wanted terror leaders killed in the Philippines

The Philippine military said it killed Southeast Asia's most-wanted terrorist and two other senior militants Thursday in a U.S.-backed airstrike marking one of the region's biggest anti-terrorism successes in recent years.

The dawn strike targeting a militant camp on a southern Philippine island killed Malaysian Zulkifli bin Hir, also known as Marwan, a top leader of the regional, al Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiyah terror network, said military spokesman Col. Marcelo Burgos.

Also killed were the leader of the Philippines-based Abu Sayyaf militants, Umbra Jumdail, and a Singaporean leader in Jemaah Islamiyah, Abdullah Ali, who used the guerrilla name Muawiyah, Burgos said.

313 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 6:59:19am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

Family of Slain Border Agent Files $25M Claim

This could get ugly.

When was that rifle sold? Nothing I find in the article said anything about that. Was it during the years before Obama was elected (yes, this "gun-walking" shit has been going on since 2006, it wasn't started by the Obama administration).

314 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:00:09am

re: #296 ggt

And organize bik-a-thons and Cure Breast Cancer Walks. It's all "rah-rah" feel good stuff -- nothing more.

Komen is an industry. They SELL PINK STUFF.

I once saw a Komen Facebook status, with Pink Ribbon and all: "Like" This if You Hate Cancer! (then if you "Like" it, they will spam you with ads for Pink Stuff)

The suggestion of course is that if you don't "Like" their Pink Stuff, you must Love Cancer.

315 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:00:53am

re: #314 Alouette

Komen is an industry. They SELL PINK STUFF.

I once saw a Komen Facebook status, with Pink Ribbon and all: "Like" This if You Hate Cancer! (then if you "Like" it, they will spam you with ads for Pink Stuff)

The suggestion of course is that if you don't "Like" their Pink Stuff, you must Love Cancer.

Mmm. I love me some cancer. Tastes good on toast./

316 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:01:09am

re: #313 RayFerd

For that to be true, they'd have to prove the murder wouldn't have occurred without the weapon, which, obviously, is not going to happen.

317 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:06:09am

Oops...CNN is reporting Trump to endorse Mitt, not Newt...the following story is a lie!

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Celebrity mogul Donald Trump plans to endorse former House speaker Newt Gingrich in Las Vegas today, the Associated Press is reporting.

“He’s got great ideas. He’s very smart, he’s very tough and he is a great debater,” Trump said of Gingrich on Sunday.

318 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:07:21am

re: #317 darthstar

Or CNN is incorrect?

319 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:08:46am

re: #257 ggt

Morning all!

Ever get the feeling you are being watched?

How goes your morning?

[Link: abstrusegoose.com...]

320 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:09:05am

re: #313 RayFerd

When was that rifle sold? Nothing I find in the article said anything about that. Was it during the years before Obama was elected (yes, this "gun-walking" shit has been going on since 2006, it wasn't started by the Obama administration).

Very good point!

321 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:10:39am

Brat Puppy has taken to curling up by my computer chair and staying there.

Makes it very hard to get out of the chair and step away from the desk.

322 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:12:24am

I think I finally figured-out what "butthurt" really means.

It's what happens when you are old and work-out with a personal trainer two days in a row.

Makes stepping over Brat Puppy even more difficult.

323 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:19:35am

re: #321 ggt

Brat Puppy has taken to curling up by my computer chair and staying there.

Makes it very hard to get out of the chair and step away from the desk.

My feline overlord likes to fall asleep on top of my tower. It's nice and warm there, and it's near where I sit so he gets petting while I'm at my desk. Win/win.

324 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:20:13am

ahahahahahahah!

dogs and kids.

325 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:20:14am

re: #321 ggt

Brat Puppy has taken to curling up by my computer chair and staying there.

Makes it very hard to get out of the chair and step away from the desk.

Where'd you get the space to put in the ice there?
;)

And who is he using as a sweeper?

326 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:22:50am

re: #323 thedopefishlives

My feline overlord likes to fall asleep on top of my tower. It's nice and warm there, and it's near where I sit so he get petting while I'm at my desk. Win/win.

The office chair is the favored FO snooze spot. Gets some sun if I have the blinds open, close to the bed, and allows a view out the door and across the apartment to monitor staff.

327 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:26:07am

Best quote of the day:

"Grant making decisions are not about politics — our priority is and always will be the women we serve. Making this issue political or leveraging it for fundraising purposes would be a disservice to women."

328 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:27:00am

My great-Aunt had a luncheonette in lower Manhattan that closed years before I was born.

But I've spent hours staring into the photos:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

and

[Link: www.flickr.com...]
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

This film was like being transported in a time machine back to that period. I was expecting a "punch line" ending. (Like "but because of ADA rules, we're forced to shut down"), and I was pleased it was just a vignette.

329 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:28:15am

re: #326 oaktree

The office chair is the favored FO snooze spot. Gets some sun if I have the blinds open, close to the bed, and allows a view out the door and across the apartment to monitor staff.

Heh, my two feline overlords prefer the back of the couch. It's in the middle of the basement room and affords a wide view of their domain, including out the sliding glass door that goes under the deck. However, on winter nights, one or both of them will curl up on top of the computer for the added warmth. Most disturbing is when I go down there at night and Basement Cat is in there. Two disembodied beady green eyes staring out at me from inside my own desk...

330 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:28:42am

How true!

331 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:34:39am

re: #329 thedopefishlives

Heh, my two feline overlords prefer the back of the couch. It's in the middle of the basement room and affords a wide view of their domain, including out the sliding glass door that goes under the deck. However, on winter nights, one or both of them will curl up on top of the computer for the added warmth. Most disturbing is when I go down there at night and Basement Cat is in there. Two disembodied beady green eyes staring out at me from inside my own desk...

I had a cat bed that the two FO ignored for years. Then when cleaning the bedroom one day I moved it temporarily out into the hall in order to vacuum and left it there. And the cats started using it.

I then realized that I'd placed it next to a wall that had a heat duct running up it. Plus the placement let a cat sit with almost full concealment (only eyes and ears showing) at the intersection of the upstairs rooms (bathroom and three bedrooms) while also being able to watch anyone who came up the stairs.

Since it was out of the way in a sort of nook I left it there.

332 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:36:33am

re: #327 ggt

Best quote of the day:

"Grant making decisions are not about politics — our priority is and always will be the women we serve. Making this issue political or leveraging it for fundraising purposes would be a disservice to women."

Worst Facebook Status Ever:

"Like" this Status to show how much you Hate Cancer!

333 Interesting Times  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:36:45am

Awwwkward:

KagroX David Waldman
New Komen rule says no $ for those under gov't investigation? But Karen Handel was under gov't investigation.

334 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:37:27am

re: #333 publicityStunted

Awwwkward:

IOKIYAR

335 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:38:02am

Trump to endorse Mitt.
Rofl.

336 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:39:27am

re: #335 Varek Raith

Trump to endorse Mitt.
Rofl.

Funny, I've heard contradicting reports so far this morning. Has the actual announcement come out yet? Or a correction from the AP?

337 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:40:01am

re: #336 thedopefishlives

Funny, I've heard contradicting reports so far this morning. Has the actual announcement come out yet? Or a correction from the AP?

Don't know, CNN just emailed the alert to me.

338 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:41:35am

Cuteness of the day

Youtube Video
339 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:42:51am

Today marks the 30th anniversary of the Hama massacre. Protesters marked the day by pouring red dye and paint in the streets to commemorate the thousands killed (estimates range from 10-25,000 or more) by Hafez al-Assad when he cracked down against the Muslim Brotherhood. Now, his son is cracking down against opponents to his regime in much the same way (according to a modified Hama rules).

340 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:45:03am

So, let's see.

The AP says Trump to endorse Newt.
CNN says Trump to endorse Mittens.

My guess? Trump is announcing his run for President as a third party.

341 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:45:14am

re: #335 Varek Raith

Trump to endorse Mitt.
Rofl.

Trump is endorsing one, his hair is endorsing the other.

342 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:45:38am

re: #341 oaktree

Trump is endorsing one, his hair is endorsing the other.

Damn. I like yours a lot better.

343 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:46:00am

re: #340 thedopefishlives

So, let's see.

The AP says Trump to endorse Newt.
CNN says Trump to endorse Mittens.

My guess? Trump is announcing his run for President as a third party.

Ah, so that's what's going on.
/

344 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:47:09am

I think Trump is endorsing himself by staying in the news.

345 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:47:14am

re: #343 Varek Raith

Ah, so that's what's going on.
/

Right after he fires the entire GOP.

346 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:47:15am

re: #328 reuven

Thanks for posting this. Brilliant.

347 iossarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:48:47am

re: #333 publicityStunted

Awwwkward:

Republicans. What can you do?

348 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:49:04am

re: #347 iossarian

Republicans. What can you do?

Point and laugh. It relieves the tension.

349 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:53:49am

Morning. Well look at what we have here. More wingnuttery from Komen's new VP Karen Handel:

Feds rip Georgia voter system

As a coalition of pro-immigration groups rallied at the state Capitol on Monday, Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel was reacting to a U.S. Justice Department repudiation of her system of verifying citizenship of voters.

In a six-page letter issued last week, and released Monday, Justice Department lawyers said Handel’s office had created a system that “does not produce accurate and reliable information and that thousands of citizens who are in fact eligible to vote under Georgia law have been flagged.”

Handel was not pleased. The decision, she said, “shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections.”

Continues.

And here's a quote where she went wingnut over this.

“DOJ has thrown open the door for activist organizations such as ACORN to register non-citizens to vote in Georgia’s elections, and the state has no ability to verify an applicant’s citizenship status or whether the individual even exists. DOJ completely disregarded Georgia’s obvious and direct interest in preventing non-citizens from voting, instead siding with the ACLU and MALDEF (The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund). “Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy.”

Circa 2009.

350 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:54:07am

re: #340 thedopefishlives

So, let's see.

The AP says Trump to endorse Newt.
CNN says Trump to endorse Mittens.

My guess? Trump is announcing his run for President as a third party.

My money's on Newt. He & Trump are both egomaniacal bloviators who love grandiosity and will do or say anything to make a buck.

The only thing he & Romney have in common is being rich guys. Uncanny valley & flip-flopping pandering aside, I don't think Romney would be able to hide his distaste for Trump.

BTW, whatever happened to that birther stuff Trumps investigators supposedly dug up, hmm? Must be locked in a vault with the "whitey" tape. //

351 iossarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:55:15am

I think the whole Komen debacle really throws two (related) aspects of contemporary US politics into sharp relief:

1) There is no such thing as an apolitical movement. Any cause will eventually be drawn into the general battle royale between Democrats and Republicans.

2) The Republicans' primary objective is to extend their power through whatever means possible. Their fundamental ideology is one of wielding power over others, and so it makes perfect sense to use their influence in one sphere of activity to exert their ideology against another sphere of activity, even if those spheres are only tangentially related (and may in fact have some activities that are complementary, as is the case with Komen and PP).

352 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 7:59:38am

Outraged Wingnut Syndrome.

Oh yes. That'll work.

353 Sionainn  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:01:20am

re: #350 CuriousLurker

My money's on Newt. He & Trump are both egomaniacal bloviators who love grandiosity and will do or say anything to make a buck.

The only thing he & Romney have in common is being rich guys. Uncanny valley & flip-flopping pandering aside, I don't think Romney would be able to hide his distaste for Trump.

BTW, whatever happened to that birther stuff Trumps investigators supposedly dug up, hmm? Must be locked in a vault with the "whitey" tape. //

Better get Geraldo on that.

354 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:04:24am

re: #350 CuriousLurker

Must be locked in a vault with the "whitey" tape.

Whitey Bulger has a tape??
/

355 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:05:42am

re: #354 sattv4u2

Must be locked in a vault with the "whitey" tape.

Whitey Bulger has a tape??
/

You never know... /

356 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:07:43am

SO ,,, why did I even bother to go home from work last night? Colossal waste of gas and sleep time

Left work at about midnight thirty
one hour and 15 minute drive home
didn't fall asleep till about 2:30 a.m. (takes time to unwind after work and the drive)
dogs woke me at 6 a.m. asking to go out
couldn't fall back to sleep
out of bed at 8 a.m
hit the road to come back to work at about 8:20

here ,,,, again ,,,, {sigh}

357 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:08:05am

Good morning, Lizards! It's Thursday, and Sen. Mike Lee of Utah is still a raging tool:

en. Mike Lee Compares Recess Appointments To Pearl Habor — ‘A Day That Will Live On In Infamy’

358 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:10:03am

re: #357 Lidane

That's how to make a Holocaust out of jaywalking.

Except is there anything ever wrong with recess appointments other than they don't like them?

359 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:10:39am

re: #358 BigPapa

That's how to make a Holocaust out of jaywalking.

Except is there anything ever wrong with recess appointments other than they don't like them?

Yes. Obama.

360 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:11:30am

re: #356 sattv4u2

That's how you burn yourself out. Careful my friend.

361 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:12:10am

re: #355 CuriousLurker

You never know... /

I actually kind of met him once

He was a 'silent" owner of a bar in South Boston that wanted me to install a satellite dish/ TV system. All the talking I did was with the "manager" of the place. Whitey was sitting in a corner booth watching us. Every 5 or so minutes during my presentation the "manager" would go over to Whitey, say a few things, Whitey would nod yes or no, then the manager came back to talk with me some more. Last time he went to talk him Whitey reached into his pocket and peeled off some bills from a stack that could choke a horse. Manager came back to me with the downpayment for the work I was to do

362 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:13:38am

re: #351 iossarian

Speaking of Komen, their right-wing capitulation caused this to happen:

Top Susan G. Komen Official Resigned Over Planned Parenthood Cave-In

The decision, made in December, caused an uproar inside Komen. Three sources told me that the organization's top public health official, Mollie Williams, resigned in protest immediately following the Komen board's decision to cut off Planned Parenthood. Williams, who served as the managing director of community health programs, was responsible for directing the distribution of $93 million in annual grants. Williams declined to comment when I reached her yesterday on whether she had resigned her position in protest, and she declined to speak about any other aspects of the controversy.

But John Hammarley, who until recently served as Komen's senior communications adviser and who was charged with managing the public relations aspects of Komen's Planned Parenthood grant, said that Williams believed she could not honorably serve in her position once Komen had caved to pressure from the anti-abortion right. "Mollie is one of the most highly respected and ethical people inside the organization, and she felt she couldn't continue under these conditions," Hammarley said. "The Komen board of directors are very politically savvy folks, and I think over time they thought if they gave in to the very aggressive propaganda machine of the anti-abortion groups, that the issue would go away. It seemed very short-sighted to me."

363 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:13:49am

re: #360 Rightwingconspirator

That's how you burn yourself out. Careful my friend.

1 hour into a 12 hour shift today
tomorrow
and Saturday

Then most likely here on Sunday for a few hours before till a few hours after Super Bowl

364 allegro  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:18:52am

re: #327 ggt

Best quote of the day:

"Grant making decisions are not about politics — our priority is and always will be the women we serve. Making this issue political or leveraging it for fundraising purposes would be a disservice to women."

That makes the additional information about Koman in this article all the more "interesting."

In 2000, when I first became a breast cancer activist, one of my first assignments was contacting the senators and members of Congress in my area to encourage their support for the Breast & Cervical Cancer Prevention & Treatment Act. The bill was to provide Medicaid coverage for uninsured women diagnosed through the Breast & Cervical Cancer Prevention & Screening Act, which had been passed several years earlier. IOW, the Treatment Act was necessary because uninsured women were getting no-cost breast cancer diagnosis, but still had no means to pay for treatment.
...
Upon calling my GOP senator and speaking with his aide, I was shocked to hear her tell me "Sen.__ can't sign on as a co-sponsor to the bill because all the breast cancer groups aren't in agreement on it." Shocked, I asked her who was opposing it. She told me that Komen opposed the bill. When I asked her why, she explained that Komen felt that treatment for uninsured breast cancer patients should be funded through private donations, like the pink ribbon race. I was speechless, in shock. A phone call to another activist confirmed it was true - Komen was lobbying behind the scenes to kill the bill. A moment later, Sen.__'s aide called me back and begged me not to repeat our conversation to anyone, that she had given me the information by mistake.

There's much more.

365 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:22:05am

re: #361 sattv4u2

I actually kind of met him once

He was a 'silent" owner of a bar in South Boston that wanted me to install a satellite dish/ TV system. All the talking I did was with the "manager" of the place. Whitey was sitting in a corner booth watching us. Every 5 or so minutes during my presentation the "manager" would go over to Whitey, say a few things, Whitey would nod yes or no, then the manager came back to talk with me some more. Last time he went to talk him Whitey reached into his pocket and peeled off some bills from a stack that could choke a horse. Manager came back to me with the downpayment for the work I was to do

Heh. He was recently captured after many years on the lam, wasn't he?

366 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:23:41am

re: #357 Lidane

George Bush made (as of June 2007) 171 recess appointments, more than Bill Clinton (139) and Barack Obama (32). Also, recess appointments are temporary: they expire at the end of the Congressional session they were appointed in (IIRC), according to Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution (which the GOP has no understanding of). Presidents since George Washington have made recess appointments. The GOP doesn't like Constitutional powers unless they are the ones wielding it.

367 iossarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:25:20am

re: #364 allegro

Once again, no such thing as an apolitical movement.

Susan G. Komen: taking your breast cancer donations and supporting right-wing ideologues with them.

368 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:25:50am

re: #364 allegro

That makes the additional information about Koman in this article all the more "interesting."

There's much more.

I was just about to post that same article. Some folks around here might hyperventilate about DKos, but they do have some good stuff over there, especially all the info about Komen that is coming to light.

Also, there is an incredibly timely documentary that's about to come out. In light of the Komen debacle, I expect it's going to get a lot more attention than it would have before:

[Link: www.nfb.ca...]

369 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:25:56am

re: #365 CuriousLurker

Heh. He was recently captured after many years on the lam, wasn't he?

Yup,, in California with his long time g/f

370 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:29:09am

re: #368 Lidane

Wow, very interesting.

371 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:29:41am

Ascribing Occupy Oakland's recent shenanigans to Nancy Pelosi's "God bless them comment" about OWS back in October of last year is a massive non sequitur.

372 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:30:44am

re: #371 Gus 802

Ascribing Occupy Oakland's recent shenanigans to Nancy Pelosi's "God bless them comment" about OWS back in October of last year is a massive non sequitur.

Morning Gus. Yeah, that was a fun discussion. Amazing the lengths some people will go to to discredit someone.

374 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:33:14am

Palestinians throw shoes, stones at U.N. convoy

GAZA (Reuters) - Dozens of Palestinians threw shoes, sticks and stones at U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's convoy as it crossed into the Gaza Strip on Thursday, protesting against what they saw as a slight against Palestinians jailed in Israel.

No one was injured during the hostile welcome and the vehicles, which crossed into the Hamas-ruled territory from southern Israel, pushed through the crowd and sped away.

Ban is visiting the region to try to restart long-stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

"I thank the people of Gaza for the warm welcome," he told a news conference, provoking laughter among local journalists. "I met many people who were waiting for me at the entrance."

375 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:33:22am

Wikipedias page for Susan G. Komen for the Cure is very interesting reading.

There are some factual and neutrality disputes but I don't have the time to review them at the moment. But this has been very eye opening.

376 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:33:53am

re: #372 thedopefishlives

Morning Gus. Yeah, that was a fun discussion. Amazing the lengths some people will go to to discredit someone.

Seriously. I was supporting OWS back then. So I guess that means I support the vandalism and flag burning. I mean obviously no? Er, no.

377 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:34:03am

re: #371 Gus 802

Ascribing Occupy Oakland's recent shenanigans to Nancy Pelosi's "God bless them comment" about OWS back in October of last year is a massive non sequitur.

I like pro derpitor.

378 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:35:21am

re: #371 Gus 802

Ascribing Occupy Oakland's recent shenanigans to Nancy Pelosi's "God bless them comment" about OWS back in October of last year is a massive non sequitur.

Kind of, sort of but not really. It was a toxic and reckless movement from the very begining and it was politically dangerous to give them anything other than a vague statement supporting the right to protest. Luckily OWS rebuffed early attempts to associate with Dem politicians but opponents are still going to use any statements support OWS for political gain. That's just the way it works. Dems would to the same thing to Republican statements supporting the Tea Party. You might not agree but it's still fair political game.

379 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:35:51am

re: #378 Killgore Trout

Kind of, sort of but not really. It was a toxic and reckless movement from the very begining and it was politically dangerous to give them anything other than a vague statement supporting the right to protest. Luckily OWS rebuffed early attempts to associate with Dem politicians but opponents are still going to use any statements support OWS for political gain. That's just the way it works. Dems would to the same thing to Republican statements supporting the Tea Party. You might not agree but it's still fair political game.

Sorry. I'm an atheist. I don't believe in playing God.

380 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:36:27am

re: #377 BigPapa

I like pro derpitor.

Argumentum ad derp: A logical fallacy in which everything spilling out of the logician's mouth is weapons-grade stupid.

381 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:36:49am

re: #366 commadore183

Recess appointments are constitutionally provided for mechanism to fill positions in government. The numbers cited in your comment alone don't tell the whole story though.

One of the reasons that Obama's number of appointments are so low is that the GOP has purposefully engaged in parliamentary action to remain in session (even if it's only to gavel in and out of session) to prevent the President from using the recess appointment power in the first place. Democrats had tried to do something similar during some of Bush's second term, but aren't nearly as debased as the GOP attempts, which is why President Obama announced the recess appointments in claiming that the Congress wasn't in actual session but engaging in a sham. Since Congress wasn't actually conducting business, it wasn't in session even though the GOP leadership was gaveling in and out daily.

382 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:38:20am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

Family of Slain Border Agent Files $25M Claim

This could get ugly.

The families of the over 5,000 American war dead during the Iraq War should file a wrongful death suit against the Bush/Cheney White House.

Weapons of mass destruction.

/Snark

383 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:40:03am

re: #382 Gus 802

The families of the over 5,000 American war dead during the Iraq War should file a wrongful death suit against the Bush/Cheney White House.

Weapons of mass destruction.

/Snark

I'm filing a wrongful death suit against the federal government. I'm sure that somehow, in some way, the government has contributed to my demise. Even though it hasn't happened yet.

384 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:40:40am

re: #378 Killgore Trout

Kind of, sort of but not really. It was a toxic and reckless movement from the very begining and it was politically dangerous to give them anything other than a vague statement supporting the right to protest. Luckily OWS rebuffed early attempts to associate with Dem politicians but opponents are still going to use any statements support OWS for political gain. That's just the way it works. Dems would to the same thing to Republican statements supporting the Tea Party. You might not agree but it's still fair political game.

Comment #228 as made is not defensible.

385 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:43:05am

re: #381 lawhawk

I forgot to add the part about the GOP obstruction regarding President Obama's low recess appointments. And while Democrats used pro forma sessions to prevent then-President Bush recess appointments, they've mainly been over the views of the appointee and when Bush did a recess appointment, the Democrats didn't throw a shit fit like what the GOP is doing now.

386 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:43:34am

re: #384 oaktree

Comment #228 as made is not defensible.

Has she recanted her blessing or distanced herself from OWS since then?

387 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:43:49am

Go to Weasel Zippers. They's big on hating OWS over there. They're even talking about the Nancy Pelosi non-sequitur.

388 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:44:03am

re: #385 commadore183

I forgot to add the part about the GOP obstruction regarding President Obama's low recess appointments. And while Democrats used pro forma sessions to prevent then-President Bush recess appointments, they've mainly been over the views of the appointee and when Bush did a recess appointment, the Democrats didn't throw a shit fit like what the GOP is doing now.

Also!
The GOP was blocking a position that was REQUIRED BY LAW to have.

389 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:44:05am

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Has she recanted her blessing or distanced herself from OWS since then?

Who gives a fucking crap.

390 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:44:15am

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Has she recanted her blessing or distanced herself from OWS since then?

You are not seriously going to play that game, are you? "She didn't say anything contrary, so that means we can automatically assume she holds the same view." What utter tosh.

391 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:45:09am

re: #389 Gus 802

I take that as a no

392 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:46:14am

re: #391 Shropshire_Slasher

I take that as a no

With all the shit going on in this country. OWS is very low on my list of concerns. They can all go to Weasel Zippers and Brietbart to discuss their concerns.

393 iossarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:47:01am

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR BLACK PRESIDENT'S FAILURE TO DENOUNCE CHILD MOLESTATION TODAY.

394 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:48:58am

re: #393 iossarian

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR BLACK PRESIDENT'S FAILURE TO DENOUNCE CHILD MOLESTATION TODAY.

Every morning, everyone must recite a list of their current positions on the following topics:

* OWS
* Creationism
* Iraq/Afghanistan
* Climate change

Failure to do any of these will result in your previous position being assumed as correct from now until eternity, no matter how many times you denounce it henceforth. Have a nice day and remember, Big Brother is watching.

395 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:49:16am

Given how fucked up and indefensible the GOP is now, it's no wonder some would rather talk about OWS.

396 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:49:51am

re: #394 thedopefishlives

Every morning, everyone must recite a list of their current positions on the following topics:

* OWS
* Creationism
* Iraq/Afghanistan
* Climate change

Failure to do any of these will result in your previous position being assumed as correct from now until eternity, no matter how many times you denounce it henceforth. Have a nice day and remember, Big Brother is watching.

Don't forget to add yet another report about what the Palestinians are doing. That way you show concern for Israel. Or something.

397 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:50:24am

re: #396 Gus 802

Don't forget to add yet another report about what the Palestinians are doing. That way you show concern for Israel. Or something.

Right. Clearly my list was not comprehensive. I'd be here all day if I had to make a full list.

398 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:50:43am

re: #395 Varek Raith

Given how fucked up and indefensible the GOP is now, it's no wonder some would rather talk about OWS.

Clearly you are another example of how LGF has gone RADICAL LEFT!!11ty

//

399 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:51:24am

Seriously.
Fuck OWS.
They're dead, Jim.
Beating dead horses is boring.
;)

400 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:51:54am

If you do not denounce OWS daily and frequently you are also an OWS apologist and Radical-Left-Lizard!

//

401 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:52:42am

re: #400 Gus 802

If you do not denounce OWS daily and frequently you are also an OWS apologist and Radical-Left-Lizard!

//

I don't even talk about OWS every day. I guess that makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

402 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:52:44am

re: #338 Alouette

Cuteness of the day

[Video]

That's great. I love the momentary distraction, then back to the mission.

403 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:53:10am

re: #402 wrenchwench

That's great. I love the momentary distraction, then back to the mission.

SQUIRREL!

404 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:53:22am

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Has she recanted her blessing or distanced herself from OWS since then?

Translation: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party Occupy Wall Street?"

405 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:53:52am

re: #401 thedopefishlives

I don't even talk about OWS every day. I guess that makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

Sure does. Silence means tacit approval. That's what it says in the manual.

//

406 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:54:15am

Have you denounced your use of the Internet yet?
It's full of pirates and hackers and pedos and holy shit.
/

407 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:54:17am

re: #394 thedopefishlives

* OWS (for it, since it meant I could engage in some of that bloggy photojournalism since Zuccotti Park was essentially around the corner)
* Creationism (isn't it turtles all the way down? /)
* Iraq/Afghanistan (they're countries that are in a whole world of hurt - both before and after US involvement)
* Climate change (the world is a whole world of hurt over long term impacts of human actions)
* Israel/Palestinians (do I really need to go there? /)

408 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:54:38am

Are you, or have you ever been, a supporter of Occupy Wall Street?

409 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:55:18am

re: #387 Gus 802

Go to Weasel Zippers. They's big on hating OWS over there. They're even talking about the Nancy Pelosi non-sequitur.

I may have stirred up some trouble there...

Every one who agrees breast health funding should be tied to abortion controversy should raise their hands. OK all you men put your hands down. No women? What a surprise!
///

This is not bullying, it’s a legit look at a bad decision based on neo socon desires.

410 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:55:47am

re: #406 Varek Raith

Have you denounced your use of the Internet yet?
It's full of pirates and hackers and pedos and holy shit.
/

If you haven't, you can pay your penitence c/o lawhawk. Please email with your account numbers, ssn, and other relevant information so that compensation can be forthcoming /

411 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:55:56am

re: #407 lawhawk

Very good, citizen. Now make sure you report back tomorrow, lest you be accused of silent complicity. Oh, and if one of your positions does change, you will be accused of being a flip-flopper and castigated for changing your mind.

412 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:55:57am

re: #403 Varek Raith

SQUIRREL!

Ironically, I was also trying for a momentary distraction.

413 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:56:00am

Way to put some pepper on the posture.

414 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:56:27am

re: #412 wrenchwench

Ironically, I was also trying for a momentary distraction.

I've been bamboozled!

415 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:56:50am

re: #412 wrenchwench

Ironically, I was also trying for a momentary distraction.

Unfortunately, the Lizardim are not so easily dis -- ooh, look, shiny!

416 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:57:09am

re: #414 Varek Raith

I've been bamboozled!

I guess you are the only one I have any power over....

417 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:57:10am

re: #406 Varek Raith

Have you denounced your use of the Internet yet?
It's full of pirates and hackers and pedos and holy shit.
/

ZOMG! I just realized that OWS, Anonymous, and Wikileaks all use the internet! We must surely turn off our computers and go offline or we give tacit approval to their tactics and beliefs.

///

418 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:57:38am

re: #415 thedopefishlives

Unfortunately, the Lizardim are not so easily dis -- ooh, look, shiny!

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

419 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:57:38am

re: #403 Varek Raith

SQUIRREL!

O_o

Polo Club Founder Adopts Girlfriend Amid Civil Suit Over DUI Death

A wealthy Florida polo club founder has adopted his longtime adult girlfriend in what attorneys believe may be a legal maneuver to protect his financial assets--which he estimates as "several hundred million dollars"--as he faces a trial for a drunk driving incident that killed a 23-year-old.

John Goodman, 48, formally adopted Heather Laruso Hutchins, 42, in October 2011. The couple started dating in 2009. Goodman is the founder of the International Polo Club Palm Beach in Wellington, Fla.

West Palm Beach Judge Glenn Kelley wrote in a court order that the twists in the case "border on the surreal and take the Court into a legal twilight zone."

"The Defendant has effectively diverted a significant portion of the assets of the children's trust to a person with whom he is intimately involved at a time when his personal assets are largely at risk in this case," the judge wrote. [...]

420 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:58:27am

re: #418 Varek Raith

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Heh. Hitch up a massive rocket to that thing and tow it on over here.

421 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:58:43am

Julianne Moore is frightening as Sarah Palin. Trailer for "Game Change", which is a film I have no idea why anyone made.

Youtube Video
422 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:59:42am

re: #420 thedopefishlives

Heh. Hitch up a massive rocket to that thing and tow it on over here.

I just want to be the guy that designs (engineers) the platinum setting for that diamond.

423 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:59:47am

re: #421 negativ

Julianne Moore is frightening as Sarah Palin. Trailer for "Game Change", which is a film I have no idea why anyone made.

[Video]

Damn!

424 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 8:59:52am

re: #419 CuriousLurker

O_o

Creepy. Very creepy.

425 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:00:45am

Get outta my flat and make room for the stupid tourists, you cheap bastards!

LONDON -- Landlords in Britain's capital are evicting tenants so they can cash in on this summer's Olympic Games by charging tourists many times the usual rent.
Homes in the east London boroughs where many events are to be held are fetching between five and 15 times their typical rates as properties are rebranded as short-term "Olympic lets." Some landlords are also enforcing expensive "penalty" clauses for tenants who want to remain during the gathering of the world's top athletes.
Rent controls are almost non-existent in Britain and some Londoners told msnbc.com that the looming increase in housing costs will leave them with no choice but to leave the city for the summer.

Since when did London turn into New York?/

426 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:01:03am

re: #419 CuriousLurker

O_o

It's okay. He's a rich white guy. They can do those kinds of things.

If he was a dirty, unwashed OWS hippie, though, he'd have to be denounced or something.

427 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:02:54am

Puppy Bowl starting lineup
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Careful cute critters.

429 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:04:36am

re: #426 Lidane

It's okay. He's a rich white guy. They can do those kinds of things.

If he was a dirty, unwashed OWS hippie, though, he'd have to be denounced or something.

If the 23 yr old he killed was an OWS hippie, it would be much less of a crime.

430 allegro  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:05:25am

re: #421 negativ

Julianne Moore is frightening as Sarah Palin. Trailer for "Game Change", which is a film I have no idea why anyone made.

[Video]

Wow. Ed Harris is a perfect McCain. Julianne Moore is awesome in anything she does.

431 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:05:50am

re: #411 thedopefishlives

Service brings citizenship. /would you like to know more?

432 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:06:01am

re: #421 negativ

Julianne Moore is frightening as Sarah Palin. Trailer for "Game Change", which is a film I have no idea why anyone made.


[Video]

Because Sarah Palin needs an image rehab, stat.

433 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:06:27am

re: #429 BigPapa

If the 23 yr old he killed was an OWS hippie, it would be much less of a crime.

That too.

434 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:06:28am

Sorry 'bout that. But the Nancy Pelosi/OWS bullshit threw me over the edge.

435 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:08:19am

re: #427 Shropshire_Slasher

Puppy Bowl starting lineup
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Careful cute critters.

They've got some cute pootie lined up for the half time show, too.

436 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:08:21am

re: #430 allegro

Wow. Ed Harris is a perfect McCain. Julianne Moore is awesome in anything she does.

Has John McCain ever "recanted" his support of Sarah Palin?

//

437 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:11:11am

re: #421 negativ

Julianne Moore is frightening as Sarah Palin. Trailer for "Game Change", which is a film I have no idea why anyone made.

[Video]

Okay...now I need to go read that book. I'll bet Sarah Palin is hoping this movie doesn't get too much attention.

438 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:11:41am

re: #428 Lidane

Ahahaha:

Brewer Pledged Cash For Immigration Fight, Instead Spent It Buying Copies Of Her Own Book

She's going to 'build the damn fence' out of her books.

439 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:12:19am

re: #437 darthstar

Okay...now I need to go read that book. I'll bet Sarah Palin is hoping this movie doesn't get too much attention.

Are you kidding, for her, any press is good press. My wife and I were talking about it yesterday. The politically-incorrect term for her is "attention whore".

440 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:15:27am

re: #434 Gus 802

Sorry 'bout that. But the Nancy Pelosi/OWS bullshit threw me over the edge.

You are not the one who should apologize.

441 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:16:41am

Has the Pope ever "recanted" his support of Occupy Wall Street?

442 sagehen  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:16:49am

re: #385 commadore183

I forgot to add the part about the GOP obstruction regarding President Obama's low recess appointments. And while Democrats used pro forma sessions to prevent then-President Bush recess appointments, they've mainly been over the views of the appointee and when Bush did a recess appointment, the Democrats didn't throw a shit fit like what the GOP is doing now.

They did throw a fit over John Bolton.... but as you say, that was a very specific objection to that particular person and his stated views. Objections that were explained, repeatedly, loudly, and in public.

443 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:17:06am

Of course the Pope is a notorious enemy of the right wing.

/Snark.

444 darthstar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:17:24am

Okay...time to head downstairs...our team is getting a tour of a Navy Destroyer this morning...pics will be posted later.

Cheers.

445 SpaceJesus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:17:34am

[Link: www.lettersofnote.com...]


An 1865 correspondence between a former slave and his former master

446 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:20:04am

re: #419 CuriousLurker

O_o

What is the charge for having sex with your adopted "child"? Charge him with that.

Like that guy that insured some expensive cigars against fire and then tried to collect after he smoked them. The insurance company just pressed charges of arson.

(Don't know if the cigar story was really true, I just heard it and thought it was funny).

447 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:20:11am

Nancy Pelosi never reversed her support of Occupy Wall Street. However, John Boehner, Newt Gingrich, and Eric Cantor never supported Occupy Wall Street. This year, I'll be voting for the Republican Party.

Derp.

448 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:21:18am

re: #443 Gus 802

I know you're being "snarky" however most of the Church's positions regarding rights of workers, rights of the poor, rights of children would be considered "left wing" by American standards. It's hard to pin down the Catholic Church in the context of American political parties

449 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:21:24am

re: #441 Gus 802

Has the Pope ever "recanted" his support of Occupy Wall Street?

I never demanded Pelosi recant. But her statement is fair game for political criticism. I see plenty of others here demanding that a whole list of current events, news stories and topics not be discussed, Personally I don't think it's healthy to bash Republicans all day, every day to the exclusion of other topics but I'm not telling anyone else what they may or may not discuss.

450 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:24:17am

OMG! Totalitarian theocratic tyrant develops economic plan by decoding ancient scriptures!
At prayer breakfast, Obama says Christian faith guides his policies

Obama, speaking to 3,000 people at the Washington Hilton, used passages from the Bible to make the case that his push for a more equitable economy is rooted in a long-honored value system. And he suggested that his proposal to increase taxes on wealthier Americans is consistent with the teachings of Jesus.

/C'mon, lighten up, folks

451 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:25:03am

Dark side of the moon photographed
[Link: www.space.com...]
No mention of Pink Floyd

452 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:25:19am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

When the Democrats do something equally as vile or facepalm-worthy as the GOP has lately, I'm sure folks here won't be shy about saying so.

Also LOL you at making an issue about anyone talking about something almost to the exclusion of other topics.

453 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:25:47am

re: #362 Lidane

re: #364 allegro

worth paging for future reference.

I rely a lot on LGF pages to help me remember things

and So Long and Thanks for all the Links!

454 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:27:13am

re: #452 Lidane

When the Democrats do something equally as vile or facepalm-worthy as the GOP has lately, I'm sure folks here won't be shy about saying so.

Also LOL you at making an issue about anyone talking about something almost to the exclusion of other topics.

My point is that I'm not telling anyone else what they should or should not be discussing.

455 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:27:18am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

. I see plenty of others here demanding that a whole list of current events, news stories and topics not be discussed

Demand?

456 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:27:25am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

I never demanded Pelosi recant. But her statement is fair game for political criticism. I see plenty of others here demanding that a whole list of current events, news stories and topics not be discussed, Personally I don't think it's healthy to bash Republicans Occupy Wall Street all day, every day to the exclusion of other topics but I'm not telling anyone else what they may or may not discuss.

FTFY

//

457 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:27:37am

I actually called Pelosi's office after she supported Occupy Wall Street. This was around the time when news organizations were calling attention to all sorts of odd statements made by Occupiers, who included nearly everyone under their infinitely broad platform. At this time, there was a video by an LA School Teacher/Occupier who was calling for the end of "the Zionist Run Federal Reserve."

I called Nancy's Office. I said "I want to find out if Nancy Pelosi supports Occupy Wall Street". I gave no indication what side I was on.

I barely finished this sentence when I was cut off by the staffer. He said "If you're calling about the ad from "Emergency Committee for Israel" Pelosi is about to issue a statement clarifying her position." Then he hung up.

I had no idea about this ad, and I had to google it to find out about it. This staffer, I presume upon hearing my NY "Jewish" accent, made a snap judgement about me and gave me a canned answer.

And a footnote: There was never a clarification issued from Pelosi's office. Her staff was just shutting up Jews as fast as they could. I was not impressed. (FWIW: I'm a registered Democrat.)

458 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:27:50am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

I never demanded Pelosi recant. But her statement is fair game for political criticism. I see plenty of others here demanding that a whole list of current events, news stories and topics not be discussed, Personally I don't think it's healthy to bash Republicans all day, every day to the exclusion of other topics but I'm not telling anyone else what they may or may not discuss.

Pelosi can do as she pleases (recant or not). But as you said, it's fair game to bring up her comment

Obama doesn't have to denounce "child molestation" (393) as he never made a positive statment about it,, I don't have to denonce "the internet" because I never made a positive statement about internet piracey

459 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:27:59am

re: #455 Obdicut

Demand?

Of course we're demanding. That's how we radical-leftists operate.

//

460 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:28:33am

re: #459 Gus 802

I don't get how anyone would demand anything on LGF. "You better do this or.." Or what?

461 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:29:08am

re: #454 Killgore Trout

My point is that I'm not telling anyone else what they should or should not be discussing.

Ah, but you're somehow bothered by people talking about something that you think is irrelevant or unhealthy and almost to the exclusion of other topics.

El Oh El, given your ongoing obsession with Occupy.

462 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:29:24am

re: #460 Obdicut

I don't get how anyone would demand anything on LGF. "You better do this or.." Or what?

Downdinged
GAZE
ridiculed
stalked

463 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:29:41am

re: #460 Obdicut

I don't get how anyone would demand anything on LGF. "You better do this or.." Or what?

I was ordered by another Lizard to Denounce! Ludwig! Van! Quixote! Now!

I told him to Fuck. Off. Now.

464 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:30:16am

re: #462 sattv4u2

intimidated

465 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:30:35am

re: #449 Killgore Trout

I never demanded Pelosi recant. But her statement is fair game for political criticism. I see plenty of others here demanding that a whole list of current events, news stories and topics not be discussed, Personally I don't think it's healthy to bash Republicans all day, every day to the exclusion of other topics but I'm not telling anyone else what they may or may not discuss.

Her statement is fair game, sure. But relevance of her statement is as well. It doesn't mean much.

But the key point I disagree on is the equivocation between OWS 'coverage' and the 'bashing of Republicans all day, every day to the exclusion of other topics.' As if we're incessantly harping on them with no merit to the criticisms. There is tons of merit to the majority of criticisms.

Not to mention, the GOP and it's members are in control of a large part of the US federal, state and local governments. In other words, relevant.

The OWS? Not in control of anything. Not even in control of the kids with OWS signs. In other words, not relevant.

So this contrast is lacking, to put it politely.

466 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:31:05am

re: #464 Shropshire_Slasher

intimidated

Image: Dale_Earnhardt_Sr-The_Intimidator_Wallpaper_JxHy.jpg

467 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:32:36am

re: #462 sattv4u2

Downdinged
GAZE
ridiculed
stalked

Go away, or I will taunt you a second time?

Heh. I think 'demanding things on the internet' could be a good synonym for 'futile behavior'.

468 allegro  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:32:53am

re: #459 Gus 802

Of course we're demanding. That's how we radical-leftists operate.

//

I see a lot of well deserved mocking but no demanding.

469 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:32:55am

And here comes the persecution complex.

470 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:33:06am

re: #462 sattv4u2

Downdinged
GAZE
ridiculed
stalked

Sounds like the class of 2004 to me.

471 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:33:17am

re: #466 sattv4u2

Image: Dale_Earnhardt_Sr-The_Intimidator_Wallpaper_JxHy.jpg

What kind of fuckery is this?

472 sattv4u2  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:33:32am

re: #467 Obdicut

Go away, or I will taunt you a second time?

Heh. I think 'demanding things on the internet' could be a good synonym for 'futile behavior'.

And both good names for rock bands

473 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:33:35am

re: #469 BigPapa

And here comes the persecution complex.

Weird isn't it? I just noticed that. Some of the comments are a bit perplexing.

474 Shropshire_Slasher  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:33:55am

re: #467 Obdicut

I don't get it, why did my father smelt of elderberries?!

475 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:35:45am

Rick Joyner: West Coast is Doomed

Rick Joyner is doubling down on his claims that an earthquake will soon bring ruin to the west coast, writing in an email today that the New Madrid Fault Line will also rupture. Joyner, the head of MorningStar Ministries and the Oak Initiative, said that America’s policy towards Israel is responsible for “natural disasters that have struck our country.” He has already warned people “to get out of” California because America has “fallen to some of the ultimate depravity that a nation could fall into,” and said that the recent earthquake in Japan will lead to a demonic, Nazi takeover of the United States.

476 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:36:10am

re: #474 Shropshire_Slasher

I don't get it, why did my father smelt of elderberries?!

Aliens.

477 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:36:19am

This is framing the debate. Nobody is telling anybody that they cannot talk about OWS. Many other posts about OWS do not have blowback. Why is that?

Maybe it's because the point is not to 'talk about' OWS but to 'talk about OWS in a particular way.'

478 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:37:27am

re: #431 lawhawk

Service brings citizenship. /would you like to know more?

Where's my gun and when do I get to blast some bugs???

479 jaunte  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:38:47am

re: #471 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Dale Earnhardt is a well-known left-turnist.

480 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:39:33am

re: #474 Shropshire_Slasher

Yo mamma wears combat boots. /
Yo mamma's so fat that Jabba the Hutt said... DAAAAAAAMMMMMNNNN! /

Youtube Video
481 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:39:35am

re: #470 Gus 802

Sounds like the class of 2004 to me.

Those dicks!

h/t Kragar

482 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:40:01am

re: #467 Obdicut

Go away, or I will taunt you a second time?

Heh. I think 'demanding things on the internet' could be a good synonym for 'futile behavior'.

I fart in your general direction!

483 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:41:25am

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Occupy Oakland: Police release video of City Hall break-in

Video here:[Link: oakland.granicus.com...]

LGF MUST DISASSOCIATE ITSELF FROM ALL LEFTEEZ IMMEDIATELY! LGF MUST ONLY BE UNPOPULAR AND DISREGARDED HOME OF DISAFFECTED AND DISCONNECTED CURMUDGEONS LIKE KT!!!

484 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:41:46am

re: #477 BigPapa

This is framing the debate. Nobody is telling anybody that they cannot talk about OWS. Many other posts about OWS do not have blowback. Why is that?

Maybe it's because the point is not to 'talk about' OWS but to 'talk about OWS in a particular way.'

Exactly.

485 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:42:13am

re: #481 wrenchwench

Those dicks!

h/t Kragar

Yeah. Well as you know I experienced the tail end of the Muslim derangement days. It wasn't pretty at all. And people where beyond being demanding to the point of drunken extremism. No, people didn't demand. Not a bit. Instead they ostracized people. Many of those same people are still watching over us with an unbreakable obsession.

486 jaunte  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:42:55am

OWS seems about as organized, definable and accountable as Anonymous.

488 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:44:51am

re: #470 Gus 802

Sounds like the class of 2004 to me.

ASSHOLES!

489 Obdicut  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:45:14am

re: #487 Varek Raith

Amazingly offensive.

490 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:45:17am

re: #485 Gus 802

Yeah. Well as you know I experienced the tail end of the Muslim derangement days. It wasn't pretty at all. And people where beyond being demanding to the point of drunken extremism. No, people didn't demand. Not a bit. Instead they ostracized people. Many of those same people are still watching over us with an unbreakable obsession.

Everything you say is true, and yet, I am a member of the 'class of 2004'. So I'm just pokin' you good naturedly in the broad brush.

491 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:45:51am

MUST ATTEMPT TO DRIVE WEDGE BETWEEN OBAMA AND LEFTEEZ! FLOTILLA OUTRAGE NEVER MATERIALIZED, OWS LOOKED PROMISING FOR A WHILE BUT BACKFIRED - MAYBE BOMBING IRAN PROSPECT WILL BEAR FRUIT?

MAGIC 8-BALL SAYS "WORTH A TRY!"

492 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:46:44am

re: #488 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ASSHOLES!

There's a meaning behind that as you know and I didn't invent it. Someone else pointed that out a while back. There's no secret about my past in here either and I often took the deranged wingnut road when I first got here.

493 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:47:47am

re: #492 Gus 802

There's a meaning behind that as you know and I didn't invent it. Someone else pointed that out a while back. It's not secret about my past in here either and I often took the deranged wingnut road when I first got here.

It's ok, at least you learned from your mistakes.
I used to be an AGW denier.

What is this, Blogging Anonymous???
:)

494 jaunte  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:48:04am

re: #487 Varek Raith

There may not be enough of a bomb-throwing market to support two Ann Coulters.

495 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:48:26am

re: #491 Jimmah

MUST ATTEMPT TO DRIVE WEDGE BETWEEN OBAMA AND LEFTEEZ! FLOTILLA OUTRAGE NEVER MATERIALIZED, OWS LOOKED PROMISING FOR A WHILE BUT BACKFIRED - MAYBE BOMBING IRAN PROSPECT WILL BEAR FRUIT?

MAGIC 8-BALL SAYS "WORTH A TRY!"

Funny you should mention that. Members of the Occupy movement are in Iran this morning to attend an anti-Israel film festival.
Tehran hosts 2nd Intl. Confab on Hollywoodism

A number of international filmmakers, university and religious scholars, authors, peace activists and leaders of occupy movements are in Tehran. The reason: attending the Second International Conference on Hollywoodism and Cinema.


The international conference is being held as a sideline program of the Fajr International Film Festival, marking the 33rd anniversary of Iran's Islamic Revolution.

Hllywood and Human Tolerance, Cinema and Awakening, plus Hollywoodism and Zionism are the main themes of this year's event.

496 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:49:22am

re: #495 Killgore Trout

Funny you should mention that. Members of the Occupy movement are in Iran this morning to attend an anti-Israel film festival.
Tehran hosts 2nd Intl. Confab on Hollywoodism

CLASSIC! KEEP UP GOOD WORK!

497 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:49:37am

re: #487 Varek Raith

CNN's Dana Loesch: Al Gore's Climate-Change Documentary Was "The Same Level Of Propaganda" As Leni Riefenstahl's Films

This woman is insane.

A wingnut derps what?

She's crazy.

498 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:49:53am

re: #492 Gus 802

There's a meaning behind that as you know and I didn't invent it. Someone else pointed that out a while back. There's no secret about my past in here either and I often took the deranged wingnut road when I first got here.

I never said I wasn't an asshole.

499 jaunte  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:50:06am

Hollywoodism?
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

500 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:50:22am

re: #453 ggt

re: #364 allegro

worth paging for future reference.

I rely a lot on LGF pages to help me remember things

and So Long and Thanks for all the Links!

I just Paged it.

501 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:51:07am

re: #496 Jimmah

CLASSIC! KEEP UP GOOD WORK!

Ergo... Clearly if you support or have supported OWS you support the Iranian regime and are anti-Israel*.

*If all else fails always draw the Israel-card.

*And use a PressTV claim. That helps. ;)

//

502 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:52:14am

I'M BEING REPRESSED!

503 Kragar  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:52:42am

re: #502 Varek Raith

I'M BEING REPRESSED!

Bloody peasant.

504 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:52:48am

re: #493 Varek Raith

It's ok, at least you learned from your mistakes.
I used to be an AGW denier.

What is this, Blogging Anonymous???
:)

If people weren't able to take in new information and come to new positions based on it, there would be no point to talking or typing. Or to life itself, maybe.

505 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:53:19am

re: #499 jaunte

Hollywoodism?
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Interesting. That is probably where they got the term from.

506 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:53:44am

re: #502 Varek Raith

I'M BEING REPRESSED!

Yeah if there are Americans going to this confab in Iran they should be arrested upon their return and held indefinitely in GITMO. They are fighting against those Americans that died for are freedoms.

//

507 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:54:49am

re: #487 Varek Raith

CNN's Dana Loesch: Al Gore's Climate-Change Documentary Was "The Same Level Of Propaganda" As Leni Riefenstahl's Films

This woman is insane.

Rec'd that to Charles. Dana Loesch should look in the mirror if she wants to go Godwin on propaganda.

508 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:55:21am

40 people showed up! Clearly we must bomb Iran immediately! We are in grave danger from this small meeting.

509 jaunte  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:55:35am

re: #505 Killgore Trout

The conference will also review subjects such as 'Hollywood and Holocaust,' 'Palestine on the Line of Fire,' 'Hollywood and Apocalypse,' 'Hollywood,' and 'Darwinism and Liberalism.'
[Link: www.panarmenian.net...]

Those Darwinists turn up everywhere.

510 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:56:17am

re: #509 jaunte

Those Darwinists turn up everywhere.

Darwin Ackbar!

511 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:56:32am

re: #492 Gus 802

There's a meaning behind that as you know and I didn't invent it. Someone else pointed that out a while back. It's not secret about my past in here either and I often took the deranged wingnut road when I first got here.

Me too. Post 9-11 syndrome and all that. I honestly thought I was approaching things from a post-enlightenment perspective - took me a while to realise that the creationist crusaders that made up most of the rest of the group I perceived myself to be a part of were no closer to enlightenment values that the Islamic militant fundamentalists we were supposed to be opposing.

512 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 9:57:46am

re: #495 Killgore Trout

Funny you should mention that. Members of the Occupy movement are in Iran this morning to attend an anti-Israel film festival.
Tehran hosts 2nd Intl. Confab on Hollywoodism

You just made an assertion presented on the official Iranian state news service.

What 'occupy leaders' were there?

513 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:00:14am

re: #509 jaunte

Those Darwinists turn up everywhere.

I'm kind of amazed at how people don't really understand how current Iranian propaganda operates. By this I mean both supporters and detractors. Much of what they do is similar to what the Soviets used to do with the American progressive movements in the late 1960s and the corollary reaction by the John Birch Society, et al. So it's not uncommon to see attempted co-opting by ideological groups.

514 iossarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:00:48am

re: #512 BigPapa

You just made an assertion presented on the official Iranian state news service.

A puppet on a string.

515 SpaceJesus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:00:54am

re: #457 reuven

And a footnote: There was never a clarification issued from Pelosi's office. Her staff was just shutting up Jews as fast as they could. I was not impressed. (FWIW: I'm a registered Democrat.)

Um, no. They're interns, not staffers. Also, they trace your call in order to see if you are from their congressperson's district or not. I know because this used to be my exact job when I intered in the Senate. If you're not from their congressperson's district, they will give you a little something and move you on, especially if their lines are being flooded by people calling from out of state. Their job is to listen to people their office actually represents.

516 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:02:56am

re: #512 BigPapa

You just made an assertion presented on the official Iranian state news service.

What 'occupy leaders' were there?

The only people I recognized were Oliver Stone's son and the Neturei Karta folks. A couple old white academics types that I didn't bother to google. I notice the "ism" of Hollywoodism is in big red letters which might mean the International Solidarity Movement was sponsoring the conference.

517 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:03:05am

re: #515 SpaceJesus

Um, no. They're interns, not staffers. Also, they trace your call in order to see if you are from their congressperson's district or not. I know because this used to be my exact job when I intered in the Senate. If you're not from their congressperson's district, they will give you a little something and move you on, especially if their lines are being flooded by people calling from out of state. Their job is to listen to people their office actually represents.

This is very common ploy or detraction. Josh Block has entered the argument yet again.

518 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:04:04am

re: #516 Killgore Trout

The only people I recognized were Oliver Stone's son and the Neturei Karta folks. A couple old white academics types that I didn't bother to google. I notice the "ism" of Hollywoodism is in big red letters which might mean the International Solidarity Movement was sponsoring the conference.

They should be arrested!

//

519 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:04:52am

re: #516 Killgore Trout

The only people I recognized were Oliver Stone's son and the Neturei Karta folks. A couple old white academics types that I didn't bother to google. I notice the "ism" of Hollywoodism is in big red letters which might mean the International Solidarity Movement was sponsoring the conference.

Oliver Stone's Son? Never knew he had one.
Neturei Karta? Never heard of them.
Some 'leaders' they are.

520 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:06:46am

re: #516 Killgore Trout

The only people I recognized were Oliver Stone's son and the Neturei Karta folks. A couple old white academics types that I didn't bother to google. I notice the "ism" of Hollywoodism is in big red letters which might mean the International Solidarity Movement was sponsoring the conference.

Guess I missed the meeting whre Oliver Stone's son and fucking Narurei Karta were declared leaders of the OWS movement.

521 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:07:14am

re: #519 Varek Raith

Oliver Stone's Son? Never knew he had one.
Neturei Karta? Never heard of them.
Some 'leaders' they are.

Those gal darn leftist radical Hollywood extremists and their support of the Dinnerjacket anti-Israel regime must be stopped before the end of the world is before us! Pray to God now for your salvation because the end is near!

522 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:07:44am

re: #520 Jimmah

Guess I missed the meeting whre Oliver Stone's son and fucking Narurei Karta were declared leaders of the OWS movement.

Welcome to Fox News.

//

523 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:07:58am

Make that Fox Nation.

524 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:10:16am

re: #520 Jimmah

Guess I missed the meeting whre Oliver Stone's son and fucking Narurei Karta were declared leaders of the OWS movement.

Can you prove it didn't happen?

Exactly.

525 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:11:44am

What's funny too is that if it wasn't for Oliver Stone we'd probably never would have heard of Adam Baldwin. It would have been Little Hollywood instead.

//

526 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:12:26am

I don't like Michael Moore. Not one bit. But I don't think he's a threat to the universe.

527 Lidane  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:14:44am

re: #519 Varek Raith

Oliver Stone's Son? Never knew he had one.
Neturei Karta? Never heard of them.
Some 'leaders' they are.

But...Hollyweird! Liberals! OWS! Eleventy!

Clearly you should know who they are, just because.

528 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:17:17am

re: #527 Lidane

...

Nancy Pelosi! Oliver Stone! Occupy Wall Street! Hollywood liberals! Democrat Party! Barrack Hussein Obama! Dinnerjacket!

529 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:17:56am

The Jam Lady is on the loose!

Youtube Video
530 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:19:33am

re: #512 BigPapa

You just made an assertion presented on the official Iranian state news service.

What 'occupy leaders' were there?

Here;s one of the people in the Press TV report...
Occupy Wall Street: Danny Schechter on Spiritualution—Justice to the People!

Youtube Video

piritualution—Justice to the People! [Link: spiritualution.org...]
We joined the 99% in Zuccotti Park (Freedom Plaza) on Monday, October 10 to Occupy Wall Street. We ran into Danny Schechter, "The News Dissector," a blogger, filmmaker and self-proclaimed "trouble-maker."

Danny Schechter is the director of the the films "Plunder: The Crime of Our Time" & "In Debt We Trust." He has long been an activist against the greed of the corrupt financial system.

531 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:20:09am

re: #458 sattv4u2

Pelosi can do as she pleases (recant or not). But as you said, it's fair game to bring up her comment

Not in the context of the flag-burning idiots, no.

532 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:21:19am

re: #530 Killgore Trout

Here;s one of the people in the Press TV report...
Occupy Wall Street: Danny Schechter on Spiritualution—Justice to the People!

[Video]
piritualution—Justice to the People! [Link: spiritualution.org...]
We joined the 99% in Zuccotti Park (Freedom Plaza) on Monday, October 10 to Occupy Wall Street. We ran into Danny Schechter, "The News Dissector," a blogger, filmmaker and self-proclaimed "trouble-maker."Danny Schechter is the director of the the films "Plunder: The Crime of Our Time" & "In Debt We Trust." He has long been an activist against the greed of the corrupt financial system.

Never heard of him.

533 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:22:22am

re: #532 Gus 802

Never heard of him.

They're so awesome they convinced 40! people to follow 'em.

534 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:22:36am

Here's another guy attending the film festival....
Webster Tarpley Reveals Occupy and the CIA Within

Youtube Video
535 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:23:03am

re: #532 Gus 802

Me neither.

536 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:23:08am

re: #531 Sergey Romanov

Not in the context of the flag-burning idiots, no.

Come on! Clearly Pelosi is responsible for the flag burning.

//

*Which is Constitutionally protected. Perhaps we should be more like China and ban it outright.

537 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:23:29am

re: #530 Killgore Trout

The OWS protesters have full support from Iran. That's not someone who I would like endorsing any protest movement I was a part of.

538 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:24:00am

Oh brother.

539 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:24:12am

HHAHAHAHAHA

540 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:24:58am

Iran supports OWS... Lame argument.

Argumentum ad Ahmadinejadum

541 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:26:28am

Ahmadinejad supports Barrack Hussein Obama!

No wait they actually did try that.

542 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:26:39am

re: #540 Gus 802

Iran supports OWS... Lame argument.

Argumentum ad Ahmadinejadum

Iran also probably like our invasion of Iraq.
Benefited them nicely.

543 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:26:48am

MUST UPDING LAST REMAINING WINGNUT ON LGF!

Youtube Video
544 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:26:55am

re: #537 NJDhockeyfan

The OWS protesters have full support from Iran. That's not someone who I would like endorsing any protest movement I was a part of.

Full support? Seriously? Full support?

545 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:27:55am

re: #540 Gus 802

Iran supports OWS... Lame argument.

Argumentum ad Ahmadinejadum

It's not even an argument. It's a singular statement that is supposed to have a compelling meaning, which is based on syllogism: they bad, therefore, them who they support are bad.

This is what passes for logic.

546 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:28:07am

re: #509 jaunte

Those Darwinists turn up everywhere.

Started with the Protocols:

Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty
words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzscheism. To us Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the goyim.

547 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:28:27am

re: #545 BigPapa

It's not even an argument. It's a singular statement that is supposed to have a compelling meaning, which is based on syllogism: they bad, therefore, them who they support are bad.

This is what passes for logic.

Ahmadinejad Endorses Obama

+8!

548 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:29:07am

re: #547 Gus 802

Ahmadinejad Endorses Obama

+8!

+7!

//

549 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:29:25am

re: #548 Gus 802

+7!

//

+6

550 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:29:29am

+6!

It's going down! What the hell?

551 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:30:02am

Iran supported Obama.

552 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:30:09am

re: #544 Gus 802

Full support? Seriously? Full support?

Yes. They even have a website put up by Iran's Basij militia.

553 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:30:30am

re: #552 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. They even have a website put up by Iran's Basij militia.

Well no shit.

554 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:30:46am

Awesome.
Now we're to take Iranian propaganda at face value!
ROFL.

555 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:31:52am

re: #550 Gus 802

+6!

It's going down! What the hell?

Down to 5? WTF IS GOING ON HERE! PAULIANZ! AHH!

556 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:31:56am

re: #554 Varek Raith

Awesome.
Now we're to take Iranian propaganda at face value!
ROFL.

Exactly. They're reacting exactly as the Iranian propaganda wants them to react. Iran will use anything to deconstruct the USA. They're exploiting the movement. Sheesh Louise.

557 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:32:08am

My wishy-washy Captain Sensible centrist position: with time the extremism at OWS accumulated to the point where it now more or less represents the movement, since there seem to be no attempts to distance from this extremism (and I don't mean to say that each OWSer is an extremist or is tainted just by participating). It doesn't mean that the current extremism at OWS can be used to taint any previous supporters.

558 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:32:32am
Al Qaeda Endorses McCain

The Post today reports that Al Qaeda has endorsed John McCain for president. With seemingly impeccable logic, the cave dwellers -- actually, more likely, Quetta-squatters -- say that by electing McCain, the United States will commit itself to an extension of President Bush's blunders and thus exhaust itself militarily and financially.

Of course, Al Qaeda says that the way it can assist McCain is through a terrorist act that will rally Americans to his side.

Saying that McCain will continue the "failing march of his predecessor," Al Qaeda added:

"Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election. ... [We] will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America."

The quotes came from an AQ-linked website called al-Hesbah and were written by Muhammad Haafid, a longtime contributor to the site. [...]

559 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:33:04am

INTEGRATION IS A COMMUNISTS PLOT!

Oh, wait, wrong index card.
/

560 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:33:08am

re: #558 CuriousLurker

The quotes came from an AQ-linked website called al-Hesbah and were written by Muhammad Haafid, a longtime contributor to the site. [...]

Therefore all McCain supporters support Al Qaeda!

Derp.

//

561 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:33:12am

re: #552 NJDhockeyfan

Yes. They even have a website put up by Iran's Basij militia.

heh. They also tried to label their storming of the British Embassy recently as an outgrowth of the Occupy movement. At the time I thought it was just some confusion of the language but the regime does have an interest in the movement.

562 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:33:36am

re: #558 CuriousLurker

The quotes came from an AQ-linked website called al-Hesbah and were written by Muhammad Haafid, a longtime contributor to the site. [...]

See, this is what happens when you play with double edged swords.
They cut both ways.
;)

563 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:35:16am

Of course, I for one don't give a shit what Iran or Osama bin Dead think of America.

565 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:35:57am

I am leader of the Occupy LGF Thread #39864 Movement.

Just don't repeat what I say it freaks out my chihuahua, Lenin.

566 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:36:41am

Seriously, WTF is this shit?

567 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:37:11am

Down to 3! Come on we can do this!

Down ding this puppy.

568 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:37:29am

re: #566 Varek Raith

Seriously, WTF is this shit?

Revanchism. Atavism.

569 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:38:21am

re: #566 Varek Raith

Seriously, WTF is this shit?

SQUIRREL!

570 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:39:33am

It's at +1. One more to take it down to zero! Then it can go below that.

571 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:39:39am

It's like, you liked the Star Wars, and then suddenly Episode I came along. That doesn't make you a douche. //

572 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:40:27am

Israel sets up assassination and sabotage unit in Iran

PressTV.
Your Credible Source for OWS!

*Link removed by The Force*

9_9

573 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:40:47am

We've done it! It's hit zero. Take it even further down. Come on KT and NJD. Go there and down ding it!

574 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:41:08am

re: #572 Varek Raith

Israel sets up assassination and sabotage unit in Iran

PressTV.
Your Credible Source for OWS!

9_9

But. But. That's different.

//

575 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:41:16am

Ok, I feel better now.

576 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:41:19am

It's called confirmation bias.

577 iossarian  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:41:32am

Do the people making the whole Iran-OWS dance on here seriously think that MLK was a bad guy because he had the stated support of various scary Soviets?

578 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:42:07am

Sorry for the link to PressTV.
I feel dirty now.

579 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:43:09am

re: #577 iossarian

Do the people making the whole Iran-OWS dance on here seriously think that MLK was a bad guy because he had the stated support of various scary Soviets?

Hmm. For me this analogy is doubtful. OWS is nowhere near MLK's achievements. Which achievements overshadow any personal failings MLK had.

580 Gus  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:44:34am

-1! Woot! Thanks to all the down dingers. :)

581 Varek Raith  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:45:12am

Link removed.
I think I made my point with that.
:)

582 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 10:51:12am

Iran supports iranium. Oh, sorry, I meant uranium.

The US supports uranium and myranium. Therefore, US Bad.

584 Aye Pod  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 11:15:15am

re: #557 Sergey Romanov

My wishy-washy Captain Sensible centrist position: with time the extremism at OWS accumulated to the point where it now more or less represents the movement, since there seem to be no attempts to distance from this extremism (and I don't mean to say that each OWSer is an extremist or is tainted just by participating). It doesn't mean that the current extremism at OWS can be used to taint any previous supporters.

Ahoy there 'Cap'n'.

Youtube Video

That's actually my position too, pretty much - popular protest movements are at their most reprsentaive at their largest and much less so when they start to dwindle to the point where you are basically left with a bunch of semi-pro protest nuts. The fact a protest movemens runs such a well trodden course doesn't, as you rightly point out, invalidate te original cause or it's supporters.

585 boredtechindenver  Thu, Feb 2, 2012 12:01:58pm

re: #514 iossarian

A puppet on a string.

Youtube Video

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