X-Men #14, published in November 1965, was the first X-Men book in which anti-mutant racism became a prominent plot point. Here’s a synopsis of the story.
The Lizard Collection’s copy is in excellent condition, with some minor creases and marks on the cover. Inks are impressively bright and unfaded, and the interior is perfect.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 2, 2010 9:09:55pm |
Just looking at this I can hear the wordless theme tune to the 90's X-men cartoon in my head....
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 9:10:00pm |
He's wearing hot pants. They look like they're made of spandex. He's got imposing arms, and I bet he has buns of steel!
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Four More Tears Sun, May 2, 2010 9:10:49pm |
re: #1 jamesfirecat
Just looking at this I can hear the wordless theme tune to the 90's X-men cartoon in my head...
Dammit Beavis, now it's stuck in my head!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 2, 2010 9:12:21pm |
re: #2 Floral Giraffe
He's wearing hot pants. They look like they're made of spandex. He's got imposing arms, and I bet he has buns of steel!
Reminds me of me a few years ago...
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Kragar Sun, May 2, 2010 9:13:55pm |
I have that one. Bought it at a yard sale for a nickel.
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The Bunny Sun, May 2, 2010 9:19:01pm |
re: #2 Floral Giraffe
He's wearing hot pants. They look like they're made of spandex. He's got imposing arms, and I bet he has buns of steel!
However the radiation seems to have shrunk his nuts. Just sayin'
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 9:19:17pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I have that one. Bought it at a yard sale for a nickel.
But, what is the condition? If it's good, you should read Charle's posts, and maybe sell it. You could get a whole batallion for your war games, or sumpthin'
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Kragar Sun, May 2, 2010 9:20:27pm |
re: #7 Floral Giraffe
But, what is the condition? If it's good, you should read Charle's posts, and maybe sell it. You could get a whole batallion for your war games, or sumpthin'
Decent condition, its locked away in my family collection at my parent's house.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 2, 2010 9:22:13pm |
re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
If it's in good condition, this issue can fetch close to a grand.
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Kragar Sun, May 2, 2010 9:26:15pm |
re: #9 Charles
If it's in good condition, this issue can fetch close to a grand.
Everything is bagged and tagged and sitting in several extra large comic bins in a cool, dry closet, with each box labeled "DO NOT THROW OUT WITHOUT CHECKING CONTENTS!"
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Bubblehead II Sun, May 2, 2010 9:26:36pm |
I need to go thru my collection. Charles, do you have any of the Cerubius comics?
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Nimed Sun, May 2, 2010 9:27:13pm |
re: #2 Floral Giraffe
He's wearing hot pants. They look like they're made of spandex. He's got imposing arms, and I bet he has buns of steel!
You're more right than you think. Sentinels are robots. I wonder if this was the first issue where they appeared.
God, Martin's books and now this. Haven't felt such a geek for a really long time.
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jamesfirecat Sun, May 2, 2010 9:27:21pm |
re: #6 The Bunny
However the radiation seems to have shrunk his nuts. Just sayin'
Could be that or it could be steroids.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 9:32:42pm |
re: #12 Nimed
You're more right than you think. Sentinels are robots. I wonder if this was the first issue where they appeared.
God, Martin's books and now this. Haven't felt such a geek for a really long time.
That's a big part of the fun here. We're all geeks, in our own way. And frighteningly similar!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 2, 2010 9:34:33pm |
re: #9 Charles
If it's in good condition, this issue can fetch close to a grand.
So ummm after you buy that island, could you please by just one
Mode stabilized high power single frequency laser
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Four More Tears Sun, May 2, 2010 9:36:24pm |
re: #15 LudwigVanQuixote
So ummm after you buy that island, could you please by just one
Mode stabilized high power single frequency laser
Does it come with a shark attachment?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 2, 2010 9:37:29pm |
re: #12 Nimed
You're more right than you think. Sentinels are robots. I wonder if this was the first issue where they appeared.
God, Martin's books and now this. Haven't felt such a geek for a really long time.
The Nerd is strong here.
But beware the darkside of the Nerd...
Fear leads to arrogance...
Arrogance leads to pedanticism...
Pedanticism leads to anger...
And anger leads to suffering.
Only a fully trained geek who's ally is the Nerd can face such threads.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 9:44:36pm |
re: #17 LudwigVanQuixote
*whack*
Just because!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 2, 2010 9:50:43pm |
re: #19 Floral Giraffe
*whack*
Just because!
Did you notice the who's instead of whose after the line about anger?
That was an intentional :) to the grammar police here - who BTW, are correct.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, May 2, 2010 9:51:37pm |
Reggie, got that email and sent a reply. Please reply tonight if you can.
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Four More Tears Sun, May 2, 2010 9:51:44pm |
re: #20 LudwigVanQuixote
Did you notice the who's instead of whose after the line about anger?
That was an intentional :) to the grammar police here - who BTW, are correct.
Isn't that more of a vocabulary issue than one relating to grammar?
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 2, 2010 9:52:56pm |
Well. Looking at the old Duncan Hunter thread.
You know, the quality of folks around here has gone up notably. As has the ability to cope with someone disagreeing with you.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 9:54:12pm |
re: #20 LudwigVanQuixote
No, I'm not pedantic!
I did notice, once it was pointed out!
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Four More Tears Sun, May 2, 2010 9:54:18pm |
re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist
Well. Looking at the old Duncan Hunter thread.
You know, the quality of folks around here has gone up notably. As has the ability to cope with someone disagreeing with you.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
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Girth Sun, May 2, 2010 9:58:55pm |
re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist
Well. Looking at the old Duncan Hunter thread.
You know, the quality of folks around here has gone up notably. As has the ability to cope with someone disagreeing with you.
Hi, I'm Ricky Bobby, and if you don't chew Big Red, fuck you.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 10:11:12pm |
Tap tap tap., is this thing on?
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swamprat Sun, May 2, 2010 10:12:59pm |
re: #20 LudwigVanQuixote
Did you notice the who's instead of whose after the line about anger?
That was an intentional :) to the grammar police here - who BTW, are correct.
Well, there always polite. Often more then me.
/I kid
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, May 2, 2010 10:13:13pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 2, 2010 10:21:37pm |
re: #29 LudwigVanQuixote
We are downstairs.
Playing Twister, without me?
Shuffles off to the stairs to down!
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lostlakehiker Sun, May 2, 2010 11:03:48pm |
From a Darwinian perspective, what will happen is that the mutant genes conferring these magical powers sweep through the population, which is little changed in most of its genome for the immediate future. One gets a population in which almost everyone has the power to
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Sigma_x Sun, May 2, 2010 11:35:11pm |
I never knew The Sentinels started out so small. In the later issues they were about 50 ft.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 12:22:52am |
Got no place else to put this, a quote from the otherwise rather highly conservative Arizona Daily Republic, lambasting the politicians who support the immigration bill:
"The result is a state law that intimidates Latinos while doing nothing to curb illegal immigration....
...When migrant labor is channeled through the legal ports of entry, the Border Patrol can focus on catching drug smugglers and other criminals, instead of chasing busboys across the desert."
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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, May 3, 2010 1:02:12am |
re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist
Well. Looking at the old Duncan Hunter thread.
You know, the quality of folks around here has gone up notably. As has the ability to cope with someone disagreeing with you.
Yes. Good stuff.
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Kragar Mon, May 3, 2010 1:19:53am |
re: #35 ralphieboy
The AZ immigration bill is a criminal waste of time, effort and resources at pretty much all levels and will fail in the long run.
Looking at the conditons in Mexico today in regards to corruption and the cartels, I cannot blame the average Mexican or other South American for trying to find a better life here.
If it were up to me, I would work the situation like this. Declare an amnesty with the following stipulations: 1) You will never be eligible to become a citizen, residency only. 2) Background check, no felonies, etc. You'll get the majority of people who are just here trying to make a living into the system without the hard right mantra of "Rewarding them with citizenship" deal coming into play, allowing Law enforcement to focus on the real criminals. Fit this hand in hand with increasing border security and I think its a foundation for a workable plan.
OK, its late, I'm rambling, so now Im going to bed.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 2:34:43am |
The usual suspects are starting up with the usual whinge about oil companies being forced to pay for cleanup after disasters being wrong-headed because "in the end, they just pass the cost on to the consumer".
Any thoughts?
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 3:04:26am |
We pay for it one way or another, either in the price of energy or in the damage to our economy and our quality of life.
Our supreme court recently ruled that corporations enjoy the same rights as private individuals. Which implies that they are also subject to the same laws as individuals. So what if we just all of BP's shareholders and mana directors behind bars?
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 3:40:26am |
re: #38 Cato the Elder
The usual suspects are starting up with the usual whinge about oil companies being forced to pay for cleanup after disasters being wrong-headed because "in the end, they just pass the cost on to the consumer".
Any thoughts?
There is merit to the "pass it along" theory, however Exxon os still to this day paying a price for the Valdez incident. I know people who have never stopped at an Exxon station since. Public Relations disasters are long lasting
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 3:43:31am |
re: #39 ralphieboy
So what if we just all of BP's shareholders and mana directors behind bars?
Because "all of BP's shareholders and mana directors" were not responsible. That would be akin to saying all Toyota management and shareholders should go to jail because of the recalls they're having
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 3:44:02am |
In some countries, enough assets of a corporation that caused a huge eco-disaster could be seized to cover the cleanup costs.
But we couldn't do that here, of course. That would be like holding the rapist accountable for the shaft he buggers the rest of us with.
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laZardo Mon, May 3, 2010 3:44:59am |
Cover Caption:
"The X-Men arrive just in time to stop a bad DJ from "Bringin down tha muthafucken house."
/also good evening
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 3:59:02am |
re: #43 laZardo
Cover Caption:
"The X-Men arrive just in time to stop a bad DJ from "Bringin down tha muthafucken house."
/also good evening
Follow up issue
"bad DJ sues X-Men for restraint of trade. After winning the trial, bad DJ states "Take that, Biotch!!"
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:06:03am |
re: #41 sattv4u2
So what if we just all of BP's shareholders and mana directors behind bars?
Because "all of BP's shareholders and mana directors" were not responsible. That would be akin to saying all Toyota management and shareholders should go to jail because of the recalls they're having
And that is the problem with corporate law. A corporation has all the legal rights of an individual, but there is/are no individual(s) to be held accountable for fuckups, and trying to charge the corporation as a whole is made virtually impossible by their lawyers. Sure, you can throw the odd executive in jail for that person's personal crimes and misdemeanors, but in a case like this, there is no mechanism for making the corporation pay up outside of protracted lawsuits. They will hide behind lawyers and smokescreens for decades before coughing up a single penny.
By "accountability", I mean the kind I would experience if I let my backyard heating-oil tank develop a leak and all 275 gallons got into the local groundwater.
In that case, it would be open-and-shut. Mister Cato, was that your oil tank? Yes, Your Honor. Did you fail to have it inspected? Yes, Your Honor. Gavel! Next case! We'll send you the bill.
We know where the mess in the Gulf came from, but trying to get BP to pay for the damages is going to be like squeezing blood out of a turnip.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 4:06:36am |
re: #41 sattv4u2
So what if we just all of BP's shareholders and mana directors behind bars?
Because "all of BP's shareholders and mana directors" were not responsible. That would be akin to saying all Toyota management and shareholders should go to jail because of the recalls they're having
Shoulda left a sarc tag.
Point is, nobody is going to see any personal consequenses out of this in the form of fines or jail time - i.e., things they cannot just pass along.
And in the end, the managing directors are responsible for the procedures that resulted in this disaster, and the shareholders are the ones who elect the board of managers.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:10:49am |
re: #46 ralphieboy
Shoulda left a sarc tag.
Point is, nobody is going to see any personal consequenses out of this in the form of fines or jail time - i.e., things they cannot just pass along.
And in the end, the managing directors are responsible for the procedures that resulted in this disaster, and the shareholders are the ones who elect the board of managers.
Even if it was some kind of "Act of God" accident, they are still responsible, just like if a big wind blows over one of my trees and the tree crushes a neighbor's car. My tree, my bad.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:12:07am |
re: #45 Cato the Elder
We know where the mess in the Gulf came from, but trying to get BP to pay for the damages is going to be like squeezing blood out of a turnip.
Not so much from a "turnip" though. Perhaps like squeezing blood from a gigantic, un-squeezable, blood engorged something 'er other.
Turnip implies it has no blood. BP has lots, and lots of blood.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:16:53am |
Valdez happened so far from civilization... This shit is right in our kitchen sink.
I wish Toot's would come in here and bring her husband (he's in the business, IIRC) and let him explain what's going on.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:22:08am |
re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Valdez happened so far from civilization... This shit is right in our kitchen sink.
I wish Toot's would come in here and bring her husband (he's in the business, IIRC) and let him explain what's going on.
He is in the business. And just the other day (right before the explosion) she was talking about how safe the technology is.
Well, no technology is entirely safe, that we know.
The people in Bhopal are still paying the price.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:23:45am |
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not so much from a "turnip" though. Perhaps like squeezing blood from a gigantic, un-squeezable, blood engorged something 'er other.
Turnip implies it has no blood. BP has lots, and lots of blood.
The phrase "oil tick" comes to mind.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:24:57am |
re: #51 Cato the Elder
Yeah. That's more like it. Was in the collection business. "Blood from a turnip" was for those with nothing to go after, no money, was time to move on.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 4:25:27am |
Pakistani national Mohammed Ajmal Amir Kasab, 22, was found guilty on the most serious charges over the assault that saw 10 gunmen attack three luxury hotels, a restaurant, a Jewish centre and the main CST train station.
“You have been found guilty of waging war against India, and killing people at CST, killing government officials and abetting the other nine terrorists,” judge M.L. Tahaliyani said as he delivered his verdict.
Kasab was convicted on most of the 86 charges against him and faces the death penalty.
SNIP
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:26:50am |
re: #53 MandyManners
How is the death penalty applied in India?
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laZardo Mon, May 3, 2010 4:28:36am |
re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How is the death penalty applied in India?
Something involving a weird shaman ripping your heart out before dipping you into a pit of lava.
/SNAKES! I HATE SNAKES!
// q;
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:34:01am |
re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How is the death penalty applied in India?
In this case he's a foreign national convicted of waging war against India.
My money would be on the firing squad, and I'd pay to have a place on it.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, May 3, 2010 4:35:59am |
re: #46 ralphieboy
Shoulda left a sarc tag.
Point is, nobody is going to see any personal consequenses out of this in the form of fines or jail time - i.e., things they cannot just pass along.
And in the end, the managing directors are responsible for the procedures that resulted in this disaster, and the shareholders are the ones who elect the board of managers.
Corporate Structure:
Shareholders elect the board of directors.
The board of directors appoint the executive officers.
Basic Principle of Corporate Law: Shareholders are not normally liable for the actions of the corporation unless there is some special reason to pierce the corporate veil.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:37:56am |
re: #58 Spare O'Lake
Corporate Structure:
Shareholders elect the board of directors.
The board of directors appoint the executive officers.
Basic Principle of Corporate Law: Shareholders are not normally liable for the actions of the corporation unless there is some special reason to pierce the corporate veil.
Simple answer: seize enough assets from BP to pay for the cleanup.
The whinging would be fun to listen to.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:38:04am |
re: #56 Cato the Elder
I'll arm wrestle you for it.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 4:41:04am |
re: #59 Cato the Elder
Simple answer: seize enough assets from BP to pay for the cleanup.
The whinging would be fun to listen to.
I have a problem with the word "Seize". I'd prefer to call it a fine. I'm also a little disturbed at all the "throw 'em in jail" talk from some people. Unless they've done something criminal, which I haven't read anywhere, this is a civil issue.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:42:20am |
re: #61 RogueOne
Hasn't China executed some executives?
Not comparing with China, y'all. Just asking.
North Korea executed a public servant for being a dumb-ass.
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laZardo Mon, May 3, 2010 4:43:18am |
re: #58 Spare O'Lake
Corporate Structure:
Shareholders elect the board of directors.
The board of directors appoint the executive officers.
Basic Principle of Corporate Law: Shareholders are not normally liable for the actions of the corporation unless there is some special reason to pierce the corporate veil.
Does that mean we can't drag the executive board out onto the streets and beat them to death in classic street justice?
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:43:42am |
re: #56 Cato the Elder
Funny. I won't eat a critter, but I'd reach into that guys chest and pull out his beating heart.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 4:44:04am |
re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hasn't China executed some executives?
Not comparing with China, y'all. Just asking.
North Korea executed a public servant for being a dumb-ass.
Everything is a criminal offense in China. I'd prefer not to go down that road.
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laZardo Mon, May 3, 2010 4:47:15am |
re: #65 RogueOne
Everything is a criminal offense in China. I'd prefer not to go down that road.
Because that's where the execution partybus is parked.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:48:49am |
re: #61 RogueOne
I have a problem with the word "Seize". I'd prefer to call it a fine. I'm also a little disturbed at all the "throw 'em in jail" talk from some people. Unless they've done something criminal, which I haven't read anywhere, this is a civil issue.
I have no problem with the word or concept. If, as in my example above, my heating-oil tank leaks hundreds of gallons into the groundwater, and I refused to pay the bill, the City of Baltimore would have no problem seizing my assets to pay the damages.
BP will definitely hide behind lawyers and try to avoid payment in any way possible. In that case, I would be in favor of seizing them for the public good.
Just enough to pay for the damages. And don't try to tell me they don't have the money or assets.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 4:49:26am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:49:29am |
Makers of the death vans say the vehicles and injections are a civilized alternative to the firing squad, ending the life of the condemned more quickly, clinically and safely. The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen, who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van in which "Devil" Zhang took his final ride.
Oh, those wacky Chinese.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:50:22am |
re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, those wacky Chinese.
Given the choice, I'd take the firing squad.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:50:33am |
re: #66 laZardo
No wonder they have money to lend us... that sounds very "efficient".
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 4:51:41am |
Speaking of the death penalty,...
The mandate from the American Board of Anesthesiologists reflects its leaders' belief that ''we are healers, not executioners'', the board secretary, Mark Rockoff, said.
Although the American Medical Association has long opposed doctor involvement, the anaesthetists' group is the first to say it will harshly penalise a healthcare worker for abetting lethal injections.
About half of the 35 states performing executions, including Virginia and North Carolina, require a doctor to be present at all executions. Other states have also recruited doctors, including anaesthetists, to play a role in executions involving lethal injections. In some jurisdictions, anaesthetists consult prison officials on dosages. In others, they insert catheters and infuse the three-drug cocktails.
SNIP
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 4:51:59am |
re: #67 Cato the Elder
I think I've read the fines for the BP spill will be limited to $75 million which I think is a mistake. They fucked up and they should have to pay for the clean-up. We're in agreement on this one.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 4:53:14am |
re: #72 MandyManners
Good. If it's wrong for Kevorkian to assist a willing suicide, it's wrong for any doctor to assist in any form of execution. Period.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 4:57:00am |
re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hasn't China executed some executives?
Not comparing with China, y'all. Just asking.
North Korea executed a public servant for being a dumb-ass.
Shit ,, if we did that here congress would be down to a dozen senators!///
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:57:15am |
re: #73 RogueOne
Let's see... When will they be finished spending 75 million on this... hmmm.
Last Friday?!?!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:57:46am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 4:59:10am |
re: #75 Cato the Elder
I thought Jack was a hero. I've been telling about my friend with ALS... if I were to be diagnosed with ALS?... Dr. Jack'd be on my doorstep the next day.
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:01:07am |
re: #75 Cato the Elder
Good. If it's wrong for Kevorkian to assist a willing suicide, it's wrong for any doctor to assist in any form of execution. Period.
Agree. I want my doctors to focus entirely on extending and enriching life. However, I can see the need for an entirely separate career field and ethic.
Morning drive-by.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:01:51am |
re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Let's see... When will they be finished spending 75 million on this... hmmm.
Last Friday?!?!
The Washington Post this morning has a front-page article that quotes some guy as saying it could be 90 days before the spewage from the oil rig is stopped.
Three months.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:02:43am |
re: #80 Decatur Deb
Please, call me Dr. Grim Reaper. I didn't spend three days in execution school to me called "Mr.".
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:03:29am |
It's absolutely pouring rain here
We're getting the tail end of the storm that has devasted Tennessee.
And here, I was planning on doing lots of work outdoors
Ah well ,,, between LGF and internet porn, I should weather the storm!
((oopppsss,, did I type that out loud !?!?))
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:04:04am |
re: #81 Cato the Elder
The Washington Post this morning has a front-page article that quotes some guy as saying it could be 90 days before the spewage from the oil rig is stopped.
Three months.
Perhaps we could halve the time if we sent twice as many administrators to the Gulf.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:04:07am |
re: #81 Cato the Elder
The Washington Post this morning has a front-page article that quotes some guy as saying it could be 90 days before the spewage from the oil rig is stopped.
Three months.
[Link: www.alertnet.org...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:04:32am |
re: #85 sattv4u2
Just grab your d**k and double click
for Porn! Porn! Porn!
-Avenue Q
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:04:35am |
re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Please, call me Dr. Grim Reaper. I didn't spend three days in execution school to me called "Mr.".
Online training? Morning honcos.
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laZardo Mon, May 3, 2010 5:05:07am |
Polanski breaks silence on American extradition threat
Film director Roman Polanski has broken his silence to decry the US for seeking his extradition from Switzerland on a 33-year-old child sex case.
The Oscar-winner said prosecutors wanted him to return so they could serve him "on a platter to the media".
SNIP
Wow, I wonder why the Americans want to oppress you so badly. Oh wait:
Polanski has been under house arrest in Switzerland since September facing a US arrest warrant over his conviction for unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.
Goddammit.
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:05:10am |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just grab your d**k and double click
for Porn! Porn! Porn!
-Avenue Q
Let's leave my duck out of this.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:05:54am |
re: #86 Decatur Deb
Perhaps we could halve the time if we sent twice as many administrators to the Gulf.
Uh... have you met administrators?
Perhaps we could halve the time if we reduced the number by half of administrators to the Gulf...
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:06:00am |
The NYT this morning has surveillance footage of the guy who may have been responsible for the failed bombing attempt in Times Square.
I'm betting this toolish fool or foolish tool will be in custody within 48 hours.
| 94 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:06:12am |
re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Please, call me Dr. Grim Reaper. I didn't spend three days in execution school to me called "Mr.".
Which brings a thought
Do they use clean needles, and if so, why !?!?
//
| 95 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:06:15am |
re: #90 laZardo
Polanski breaks silence on American extradition threat
Goddammit.
IIRC, it was anal rape. He is a POS.
| 96 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:06:40am |
Just watching the news. They're reporting the three month timeline now. Also reporting that the weather is not cooperating with getting barriers set up.
FUBAR
| 97 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:07:06am |
re: #84 NJDhockeyfan
Cato quit smoking... (at least as of yesterday). How long for you now?
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:07:15am |
re: #96 Jadespring
Just watching the news. They're reporting the three month timeline now. Also reporting that the weather is not cooperating with getting barriers set up.
FUBAR
see 81 and 87
| 99 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:07:33am |
re: #94 sattv4u2
Which brings a thought
Do they use clean needles, and if so, why !?!?
//
And alcohol prep pads...
| 100 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:07:34am |
re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Uh... have you met administrators?
Perhaps we could halve the time if we reduced the number by half of administrators to the Gulf...
They can be taught to clean birds. "Rub detergent on, rub detergent off."
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 5:08:24am |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cato quit smoking... (at least as of yesterday). How long for you now?
Last cig I had was April 1st in the afternoon. Congrats Cato!
| 102 |
Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:08:36am |
re: #100 Decatur Deb
They can be taught to clean birds. "Rub detergent on, rub detergent off."
Let them eat shrimp.
| 103 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:09:53am |
re: #100 Decatur Deb
They can be taught to clean birds. "Rub detergent on, rub detergent off."
heh,,the cynic in me can see it now.
Between the census jobs they "created" and the clen up jobs this will "create" I can see the gov;t touting how unemployment is turning a corner!
| 104 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:10:26am |
re: #103 sattv4u2
heh,,the cynic in me can see it now.
Between the census jobs they "created" and the
clenCLEAN up jobs this will "create" I can see the gov;t touting how unemployment is turning a corner!
pimf
| 105 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:11:12am |
re: #98 sattv4u2
see 81 and 87
I know. I was just saying that number is being reported on the tele as well.
It's a top story on all the newscasts up here in the frigid north.
| 106 |
Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:11:24am |
re: #101 NJDhockeyfan
Last cig I had was April 1st in the afternoon. Congrats Cato!
Thanks. The LGF weather forecast calls for extra snarkiness this week, I'm afraid. I'll try to put most of it in Latin without translation.
| 107 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:12:09am |
re: #103 sattv4u2
heh,,the cynic in me can see it now.
Between the census jobs they "created" and the clen up jobs this will "create" I can see the gov;t touting how unemployment is turning a corner!
Looking at the EXXON Valdez cleanup, I think the jobs might last a good part of a generation.
| 108 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:12:23am |
re: #106 Cato the Elder
Oh crap. That didn't occur to me.
| 109 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:12:32am |
re: #103 sattv4u2
heh,,the cynic in me can see it now.
Between the census jobs they "created" and the clen up jobs this will "create" I can see the gov;t touting how unemployment is turning a corner!
Well apparently there are some Canadian companies that are set to make a good amount of coin from this.
| 110 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:12:42am |
re: #105 Jadespring
I know. I was just saying that number is being reported on the tele as well.
It's a top story on all the newscasts up here in the frigid north.
Did Salazar ever give a reason why, or is it merely speculative?
| 111 |
What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 5:12:52am |
re: #96 Jadespring
Just watching the news. They're reporting the three month timeline now. Also reporting that the weather is not cooperating with getting barriers set up.
FUBAR
So here's a dumb question. When they build these wells, why don't they build a containment "field" around them as part a safety precaution?
| 112 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 5:12:53am |
Military recruiters target of Times Square bomb?
The Nissan Pathfinder that contained a crude bomb was parked only yards from an Armed Forces recruiting station in Times Square that has been the target of an earlier anarchist attack and protests, lending credence to theories that the device was assembled by relative amateurs, not al-Qaeda-affiliated operatives.
AQ, anarchists, who will they suspect next?
| 113 |
Taqyia2Me Mon, May 3, 2010 5:13:11am |
BP 18 months down the road?
IMHO just might not exist anymore. Their expenses moving forward are going to be almost unimaginable.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:13:29am |
re: #111 marjoriemoon
My. Is that a dumb question or what?
/
| 115 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:13:45am |
re: #112 NJDhockeyfan
Military recruiters target of Times Square bomb?
AQ, anarchists, who will they suspect next?
Theater critics.
| 116 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 5:14:02am |
re: #106 Cato the Elder
Thanks. The LGF weather forecast calls for extra snarkiness this week, I'm afraid. I'll try to put most of it in Latin without translation.
How will we tell the difference from normal?
//
| 117 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:14:28am |
re: #113 Taqyia2Me
BP 18 months down the road?
IMHO just might not exist anymore. Their expenses moving forward are going to be almost unimaginable.
Don't think so
Driving around I still see Exxon stations!. And BP is a lot more diversified nowadays than an Exxon was back then
| 118 |
Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 5:14:41am |
re: #61 RogueOne
I have a problem with the word "Seize". I'd prefer to call it a fine. I'm also a little disturbed at all the "throw 'em in jail" talk from some people. Unless they've done something criminal, which I haven't read anywhere, this is a civil issue.
My original statement referred to the fact that corporations are treated as individuals under US law, with individual rights to free expression - this was involved in the campaign financing act.
Although "throw 'em in jail" might not apply in this particular case, my question remains: if a corporation is to treated as an individual and it violates the law, can it then be "thrown in jail"?
| 119 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:14:56am |
re: #110 sattv4u2
Did Salazar ever give a reason why, or is it merely speculative?
The report said BP has about 5 ideas to stop it, though the one they talked about was drilling release wells. They said it would take 3 months to get them drilled.
| 120 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:15:02am |
re: #116 NJDhockeyfan
How will we tell the difference from normal?
//
If he talks to you in Latin, just be insulted.
| 121 |
What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 5:15:12am |
| 122 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, May 3, 2010 5:15:44am |
re: #73 RogueOne
I think I've read the fines for the BP spill will be limited to $75 million which I think is a mistake. They fucked up and they should have to pay for the clean-up. We're in agreement on this one.
Exxon spent about $2B on the Valdez cleanup IIRC. This one will make Valdez look like a walk in the park.
Good Morning to Charles' Private Reptilian Army!
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:16:07am |
re: #111 marjoriemoon
So here's a dumb question. When they build these wells, why don't they build a containment "field" around them as part a safety precaution?
How would that work?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:17:53am |
re: #123 Jadespring
How would that work?
Leaking at 5000 feet in 3 different places. Wouldn't work. Tides move the water to much.
| 125 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:19:00am |
re: #111 marjoriemoon
So here's a dumb question. When they build these wells, why don't they build a containment "field" around them as part a safety precaution?
risk/ reward cost prohibitive I would imagine
These wells are 30 or more miles out. The waters there are a mile plus deep. Between the diameter of the "field" that would be required plus the depth you would have to go down, no way
| 126 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 5:19:19am |
This should be an interesting day.
Ahmadinejad likely to stir sanctions debate with address at U.N. nuke summit
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will stir the already stormy debate over sanctions on Iran's nuclear program when he pops in at the United Nations on Monday to address its nuclear nonproliferation conference.
Ahmadinejad's sudden intention to attend caught many by surprise, and comes on the heels of the Islamic Republic's vow last month to formally complain to the U.N. that President Barack Obama was threatening Iran.
Before leaving Tehran on Sunday, Ahmadinejad gave a glimpse into the tone he would likely be taking into the U.N. "We have documents that prove [Washington] is the root of world terrorism," Ahmadinejad said in a speech Saturday, according to Iran's Press TV. "It has been aiding and abetting extremist groups over the past years."
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 5:19:42am |
re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar
Leaking at 5000 feet in 3 different places. Wouldn't work. Tides move the water to much.
And waves (with the oil) can overtop those booms, and actually, destroy them completely. And they don't know exactly how far out to put them - the oil spreads out as it moves upward.
Good morning, all!
| 128 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:20:45am |
re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar
Leaking at 5000 feet in 3 different places. Wouldn't work. Tides move the water to much.
That's what I was thinking. How would you build a containment field in water? And how would you build one big enough to hold this much oil.
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:21:00am |
re: #126 NJDhockeyfan
This should be an interesting day.
Ahmadinejad likely to stir sanctions debate with address at U.N. nuke summit
He should do some sightseeing while he's in town, maybe catch a show at Times Square.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 5:21:26am |
re: #129 Decatur Deb
He should do some sightseeing while he's in town, maybe catch a show at Times Square.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:22:22am |
re: #111 marjoriemoon
So here's a dumb question. When they build these wells, why don't they build a containment "field" around them as part a safety precaution?
I've heard (out of the corner of my ear) that there is precautionary thing-a-ma-jigger (sorry, if I'm getting too technical) they can use to cap the well when something like that happens. Costs about a half a mil to have it set up.
That's (I'm guessing) why it is not there. Follow the money.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:22:25am |
re: #129 Decatur Deb
He should do some sightseeing while he's in town, maybe catch a show at Times Square.
Maybe a walk through Central Park post midnight with hundred dollar bills sticking out of his pockets!
| 133 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:23:34am |
re: #132 sattv4u2
There's never a mugger around when you need one.
| 134 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:25:30am |
Has anyone come across any info about how much oil is actually in the deposit that this well goes to?
Just wondering because I'm coming across some talk this morning about them not being able to stop it or what would happen if they can't stop it.
| 135 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:26:03am |
re: #126 NJDhockeyfan
"We have documents that prove [Washington] is the root of world terrorism,"
and as soon as the ink dries on the ones we wrote, we'll show them to you!
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:27:13am |
re: #134 Jadespring
Has anyone come across any info about how much oil is actually in the deposit that this well goes to?
Just wondering because I'm coming across some talk this morning about them not being able to stop it or what would happen if they can't stop it.
I don't know that world, but it seems to have been a fresh well.
| 137 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:27:18am |
re: #135 sattv4u2
"We have documents that prove [Washington] is the root of world terrorism,"
I would not disagree with that. Terrorists hate Washington.
| 138 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:27:53am |
This is how concerned I am about the oil disaster: I am loyal to my boss, considering I worked for him before and he gave me a job after 20 months of not working. I am again actively throwing out resumes. The job loss of this starts with fishermen but ends within an entire industry.
| 139 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:28:15am |
re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I would not disagree with that. Terrorists hate Washington.
Why ,, because he had wooden teeth!?!?!
/
| 140 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:28:16am |
re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I would not disagree with that. Terrorists hate Washington.
Perhaps they listen to Rushbeck.
| 141 |
What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 5:28:46am |
re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've heard (out of the corner of my ear) that there is precautionary thing-a-ma-jigger (sorry, if I'm getting too technical) they can use to cap the well when something like that happens. Costs about a half a mil to have it set up.
That's (I'm guessing) why it is not there. Follow the money.
Seems to me any kind of containment, if it can be done will still be cheaper than what happens after such a spill. And we're not even talking about the environmental effects.
Exxon paid $3.4B in response to the accident. It was ordered to pay an additional $2.5B in punitive damages but that was reduced to $500M. And they still fouled some 1200 miles of coastline that will never be the same again.
| 142 |
Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 5:30:18am |
re: #67 Cato the Elder
BP will definitely hide behind lawyers and try to avoid payment in any way possible. In that case, I would be in favor of seizing them for the public good.
I feel motivated to defend British Petroleum, Transocean, Halliburton, Cameron, and etc. While you're not wrong to be concerned about the environmental impact of the spill, we may never know the cause with absolute certainty. I am expecting a lot of fingerpointing in the coming weeks and months from the above companies, but the truth is prospecting for minerals is often a dangerous and risky operation. These rigs are highly complex pieces of machinery, working at the limit of technology at very high pressures and temperatures. While there may be a factor of human error, there may not be. There may be factors totally outside human control that led to the accident. You may not realize the lengths to which people who work on these rigs go to to ensure the safety of their employees and the environment. The reporting and maintenance required by government regulations is often the bare minimum of what you want as an operator. BP and Transocean are liable as operators for the environmental impact. They have insurance policies to help them pay for the cleanup. If they were criminally negligible, they deserve to be fined and charges brought against responsible parties. But "seize them for the public good" is a dumb thing to say. You may call me biased and a shill for the corporations because I worked in the oil industry and my dad designed offshore rigs, but I regret hearing Hugo Chavez-style rhetoric regarding the oil industry on LGF. Like the government could really run them better.
| 143 |
Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:32:30am |
Anyways just wanted to say that I'm really appreciating LGF and the ability to discuss this oil spill with some sanity. A couple of other places I post on have devolved into idiocy on this subject. It's either about ripping Obama a new one or railing about driving cars.
| 144 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:33:35am |
re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar
This is how concerned I am about the oil disaster: I am loyal to my boss, considering I worked for him before and he gave me a job after 20 months of not working. I am again actively throwing out resumes. The job loss of this starts with fishermen but ends within an entire industry.
Are you on the seafood end? Someone mentioned LA shrimp the other day.
(Covering your bases by gathering info is not disloyal if there is a real threat to the job--bailing early might be something you have to resolve.)
| 145 |
Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:34:11am |
re: #116 NJDhockeyfan
How will we tell the difference from normal?
//
Extra snarkiness.
You'll know it when you see it.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:34:32am |
re: #144 Decatur Deb
Are you on the seafood end? Someone mentioned LA shrimp the other day.
(Covering your bases by gathering info is not disloyal if there is a real threat to the job--bailing early might be something you have to resolve.)
Yes. Ordering about 500 pounds of shrimp today.
| 148 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:35:32am |
re: #143 Jadespring
Anyways just wanted to say that I'm really appreciating LGF and the ability to discuss this oil spill with some sanity. A couple of other places I post on have devolved into idiocy on this subject. It's either about ripping Obama a new one or railing about driving cars.
heh,,, heard an "advocate" on NPR last night talking about the wind farms proposed off of Cape Cod. She was saying that if Louisiana had wind farms off the coast instead of oil rigs they (LA) wouldn't be having this issue now
I wanted to call and ask where I can get a wind powered car!
| 149 |
reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 5:37:37am |
re: #134 Jadespring
Has anyone come across any info about how much oil is actually in the deposit that this well goes to?
Just wondering because I'm coming across some talk this morning about them not being able to stop it or what would happen if they can't stop it.
According to this article, it could be tens of millions of barrells.
They'll get it stopped. It just may be later rather than sooner.
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:38:02am |
re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes. Ordering about 500 pounds of shrimp today.
I hope it stays away from the Apalachicola Bay area. If that stays clean, the prices will soar. If both that and the Bayou la Batre end go, it's really bad.
| 151 |
What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 5:38:34am |
re: #142 Liberal Classic
The problem is that you can't clean it up. Not in its entirety. There were will always be irreparable damage to wildlife, coastline and most importantly, the livelihood of those who fish in our waters.
I don't know why Exxon is still a functioning company. It's horrifying to me. I'm with Cato on this.
And we have a bunch of Hampton-ites complaining that the wind farms are "unsightly". Oh boo fuckin hoo.
| 152 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 5:38:37am |
re: #142 Liberal Classic
Very well said. People should wait until the investigation is over before pointing fingers at anyone.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 5:40:19am |
re: #148 sattv4u2
heh,,, heard an "advocate" on NPR last night talking about the wind farms proposed off of Cape Cod. She was saying that if Louisiana had wind farms off the coast instead of oil rigs they (LA) wouldn't be having this issue now
I wanted to call and ask where I can get a wind powered car!
Mary Moon has one...
| 154 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 5:40:51am |
Someone posted a KOS thing yesterday about a big "wind spill" in CA. Was very funny.
Pardon me for not wanting to link it.
| 155 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:40:56am |
re: #150 Decatur Deb
I hope it stays away from the Apalachicola Bay area. If that stays clean, the prices will soar. If both that and the Bayou la Batre end go, it's really bad.
When I was a kid, I worked on a neighbor's shrimp boat- we never left the inter-coastal waterway. But that was for bait shrimp, not the eating type.
| 156 |
compound idaho Mon, May 3, 2010 5:41:04am |
re: #73 RogueOne
I think I've read the fines for the BP spill will be limited to $75 million which I think is a mistake. They fucked up and they should have to pay for the clean-up. We're in agreement on this one.
"fines" suggests that the dollars go to the government. That will accomplish nothing. The upside of civil settlements is that the money goes to those that were damaged. (less what the lawyers take)
Wouldn't it be something is BP quit running those stupid commercials about how green they are and step up to the plate and pay for the damage they have done. In the end, they are responsible.
| 157 |
Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:42:59am |
re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar
When I was a kid, I worked on a neighbor's shrimp boat- we never left the inter-coastal waterway. But that was for bait shrimp, not the eating type.
I had plans to get my old express cruiser back in the water and get a box net and "sport" license. Seems a lot less of a rush now.
| 158 |
Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:43:05am |
re: #142 Liberal Classic
I feel motivated to defend British Petroleum, Transocean, Halliburton, Cameron, and etc. While you're not wrong to be concerned about the environmental impact of the spill, we may never know the cause with absolute certainty. I am expecting a lot of fingerpointing in the coming weeks and months from the above companies, but the truth is prospecting for minerals is often a dangerous and risky operation. These rigs are highly complex pieces of machinery, working at the limit of technology at very high pressures and temperatures. While there may be a factor of human error, there may not be. There may be factors totally outside human control that led to the accident. You may not realize the lengths to which people who work on these rigs go to to ensure the safety of their employees and the environment. The reporting and maintenance required by government regulations is often the bare minimum of what you want as an operator. BP and Transocean are liable as operators for the environmental impact. They have insurance policies to help them pay for the cleanup. If they were criminally negligible, they deserve to be fined and charges brought against responsible parties. But "seize them for the public good" is a dumb thing to say. You may call me biased and a shill for the corporations because I worked in the oil industry and my dad designed offshore rigs, but I regret hearing Hugo Chavez-style rhetoric regarding the oil industry on LGF. Like the government could really run them better.
1) As a regular citizen with an oil tank in my backyard, I am responsible for damage it may cause regardless of what precautions I may take. If it develops a leak, it's my responsibility, even if it's an act of God like a lightning strike that causes the tank to leak.
2) I was not talking about seizing the companies and having the government run them. I am most definitely expecting them to run from their responsibility above a bare minimum and try to avoid paying the damages. If I were to do that in the backyard oil-tank example, neither you nor any reasonable person would object to the City of Baltimore seizing enough of my assets to pay for the cleanup. That's the type of seizure I'm talking about, and I would cry no tears for Big Oil if it happened.
3) I was expecting someone to come along and bring up Hugo Chavez. Ding! You win. Bite me for that one.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:43:45am |
re: #148 sattv4u2
heh,,, heard an "advocate" on NPR last night talking about the wind farms proposed off of Cape Cod. She was saying that if Louisiana had wind farms off the coast instead of oil rigs they (LA) wouldn't be having this issue now
I wanted to call and ask where I can get a wind powered car!
I'm all for fuel conservation, more fuel efficient cars and increased public transportation. I'm personally quite conscious about how much I drive and practice personal fuel conservation measures myself. I do this for both the good of the environment and my pocketbook. However idiocy like saying "This is all the fault of car drivers and car drivers are indirectly to blame for this, stop driving' is sheer moronic hyperbole. That's the type of stuff I'm reading right now.
I'm going to comfort myself by thinking that this disaster is just so troubling and makes some people feel so helpless and angry so that there's a lot of lashing out without really thinking things through.
| 161 |
Virginia Plain Mon, May 3, 2010 5:44:51am |
re: #142 Liberal Classic
How much are you getting paid by them?
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Virginia Plain Mon, May 3, 2010 5:45:24am |
Yeah, that may sound Chavez-ish, but it needs to be asked. Anyone can pose as someone they are not on the internet.
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 5:45:54am |
re: #158 Cato the Elder
1) As a regular citizen with an oil tank in my backyard, I am responsible for damage it may cause regardless of what precautions I may take. If it develops a leak, it's my responsibility, even if it's an act of God like a lightning strike that causes the tank to leak.
I agree, and said as much.
2) I was not talking about seizing the companies and having the government run them. I am most definitely expecting them to run from their responsibility above a bare minimum and try to avoid paying the damages. If I were to do that in the backyard oil-tank example, neither you nor any reasonable person would object to the City of Baltimore seizing enough of my assets to pay for the cleanup. That's the type of seizure I'm talking about, and I would cry no tears for Big Oil if it happened.
How else does one interpret "seize them for the public good"?
3) I was expecting someone to come along and bring up Hugo Chavez. Ding! You win. Bite me for that one.
Sure, okay. Consider yourself bitten.
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Ericus58 Mon, May 3, 2010 5:46:20am |
BP vows to clean up US oil slick
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Oil giant BP has acknowledged it is "absolutely responsible" for cleaning up a huge oil spill after an accident at one of its wells off the US coast.
BP boss Tony Hayward said the company was preparing for a "worst case scenario" that the spill would need to be contained for two to three months. "
| 165 |
Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 5:46:32am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:47:02am |
re: #157 Decatur Deb
I had plans to get my old express cruiser back in the water and get a box net and "sport" license. Seems a lot less of a rush now.
Talked to a bartender last night who pays $1200/ month for rent for a place on the beach. Told her to wait 3 months and that cost will drop. Sad.
| 167 |
Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 5:48:52am |
re: #151 marjoriemoon
The problem is that you can't clean it up. Not in its entirety. There were will always be irreparable damage to wildlife, coastline and most importantly, the livelihood of those who fish in our waters.
Unfortunately, this is generally true of all human industrial activity. We have to learn to live with the damage we cause, and learn how to repair it.
| 168 |
Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:48:52am |
re: #163 Liberal Classic
How else does one interpret "seize them for the public good"?
If you read my posts here on this thread with any degree of care, you would see that by "them" I mean "enough assets to pay the damages". Exactly what would happen to me or you if something on our property injures the environment or the property of others.
I said nothing whatsoever about the government seizing and running BP or Transocean or your dad.
The Hugo Chavez remark is a canard, and you know it.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 5:50:13am |
You guys are obviously over-reacting. Rep. Taylor says to calm down:
Taylor expects spill to break up naturally
[Link: www.sunherald.com...]
GULFPORT — U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor on Saturday said people shouldn’t be so scared about the massive oil spill in the Gulf; he said after flying over it, “it’s not as bad as I thought.”
........
Taylor told a group of reporters waiting at Atlantic Aviation he was less concerned about the spill after witnessing its movement firsthand.“This isn’t Katrina. It’s not Armageddon,” Taylor said. “A lot of people are scared and I don’t think they should be.”
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“It’s breaking up naturally; that’s a good thing. The fact that it’s a long way from the Mississippi Gulf Coast, that’s a great thing, because it gives it time to break up naturally,” he said.Walker said the sheen could collect on beaches and in estuaries, but it will evaporate within a week.
The oil will evaporate so we can all calm down now.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:50:49am |
re: #164 Ericus58
BP vows to clean up US oil slick
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Oil giant BP has acknowledged it is "absolutely responsible" for cleaning up a huge oil spill after an accident at one of its wells off the US coast.
BP boss Tony Hayward said the company was preparing for a "worst case scenario" that the spill would need to be contained for two to three months. "
Promises, promises.
We'll see what that's worth when the lawyers get involved and check-writing time rolls around.
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 5:51:06am |
re: #168 Cato the Elder
You used the word seize in a couple of posts. There's a considerable difference between fines and seizing of assets.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:51:20am |
re: #167 Liberal Classic
Unfortunately, this is generally true of all human industrial activity. We have to learn to live with the damage we cause, and learn how to repair it.
As well as understand that there are some things that once damaged or changed cannot be repaired in any sort of timeline that's meaningful in human terms.
We aren't really great at understanding that one.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 5:51:22am |
re: #167 Liberal Classic
Unfortunately, this is generally true of all human industrial activity. We have to learn to live with the damage we cause, and learn how to repair it.
And what have we learned from the Exxon Valdez spill?
Wind, water and electricity don't have any of these kinds of damages. If we had spent the time and money to tackle these issues 40 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today.
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:52:06am |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
Talked to a bartender last night who pays $1200/ month for rent for a place on the beach. Told her to wait 3 months and that cost will drop. Sad.
We used to rent a few days a year on St. George. (PCB is nearer but over-run).
Tourism and seafood there are just massive, and the area would go third-world without them in a blink.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:52:30am |
re: #169 RogueOne
You guys are obviously over-reacting. Rep. Taylor says to calm down:
Taylor expects spill to break up naturally
[Link: www.sunherald.com...]The oil will evaporate so we can all calm down now.
Yes, and the extra-spicy flavor in our shrimp will be mmm-mmm-gooo-oood.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, May 3, 2010 5:53:03am |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
Yes, and the extra-spicy flavor in our shrimp will be mmm-mmm-gooo-oood.
Personally, I prefer olive oil to cook my shrimp...
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 5:53:28am |
Anti-Zionist rabbi Moshe Hirsch dies in Jerusalem
JERUSALEM – An ultra-Orthodox Jewish group says Moshe Hirsch, an anti-Zionist rabbi and close associate of late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, has died in Jerusalem. He was 86.Hirsch was a leading figure in Neturei Karta, a tiny ultra-Orthodox sect that opposes Israel's existence and has embraced its enemies.
Arafat, who died in 2004, appointed Hirsch his adviser on Jewish affairs.
The group is known for its members' 2006 trip to Iran, where they embraced President Mahmoud Ahmadienjad at a Holocaust-denying conference. It also supports Gaza's Hamas rulers.
The sect has drawn criticism even from other anti-Zionist Jewish groups, which believe that only the Messiah can establish a Jewish state.
Eida Haredit, an umbrella group of anti-Zionist Jewish sects, confirmed Hirsch died on Sunday.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:53:32am |
re: #171 Liberal Classic
You used the word seize in a couple of posts. There's a considerable difference between fines and seizing of assets.
If you don't pay your fines as a civilian, your assets may be seized.
Where do you find a problem doing that to a trillion-dollar corporate entity?
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 5:54:17am |
re: #171 Liberal Classic
You used the word seize in a couple of posts. There's a considerable difference between fines and seizing of assets.
There's not much difference in the context or 'what if scenario' that Cato was taking about.
It's a pretty common practice. If you can't pay your fines, pay back money etc etc, your assets get seized.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 5:55:37am |
I remember the arguments Exxon put forth after the Valdez spill: that the captain was drunk at the time, therefore he was responsible.
After which it came out that the captain had a long history of alcoholism, which Exxon was aware of when it put him command of the Valdez...
Energy policy is very "path dependent": its development is highly dependent on steps we took decades ago, and the big step we took at the start of the last century was to rely heavily on oil as a primary source of fuel for vehicles.
It will cost more than money to change that now, it will take political will.
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compound idaho Mon, May 3, 2010 5:56:27am |
re: #173 marjoriemoon
The hydro dams along the the Columbia River have virtually wiped out the wild salmon runs in the Northwest. Seems almost everything comes with a price.
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charlz Mon, May 3, 2010 5:56:57am |
re: #158 Cato the Elder
2) I was not talking about seizing the companies and having the government run them. I am most definitely expecting them to run from their responsibility above a bare minimum and try to avoid paying the damages. If I were to do that in the backyard oil-tank example, neither you nor any reasonable person would object to the City of Baltimore seizing enough of my assets to pay for the cleanup. That's the type of seizure I'm talking about, and I would cry no tears for Big Oil if it happened.
Couple things on this CtE. The CEO of BP was on NPR this morning and accepted full responsibility and said BP would pay for the cleanup.
See NPR [Link: www.npr.org...]
Take that with a block of salt if you'd like, but there it is. Also, there was coverage last week on the insurance issue. BP apparently doesn't insure against spills because it earns so much that the cost of clean up will depress earnings for a few quarters then it will be back to making billions. So it's unlikely that a seizure will ever be necessary.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 5:57:38am |
re: #181 compound idaho
The hydro dams along the the Columbia River have virtually wiped out the wild salmon runs in the Northwest. Seems almost everything comes with a price.
It is, sadly, not the corporations but the regular folks who pay that price, generally speaking.
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Decatur Deb Mon, May 3, 2010 5:57:45am |
Things to do. We'll be talking about this one for a while. BBl.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 5:57:47am |
re: #181 compound idaho
The hydro dams along the the Columbia River have virtually wiped out the wild salmon runs in the Northwest. Seems almost everything comes with a price.
And FWIW, farm raised Salmon is not healthy.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 5:58:27am |
re: #181 compound idaho
The hydro dams along the the Columbia River have virtually wiped out the wild salmon runs in the Northwest. Seems almost everything comes with a price.
That's true, but that's nothing like what happens after an oil spill, particularly environmental damage that can never be repaired.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, May 3, 2010 6:00:27am |
re: #186 marjoriemoon
That's true, but that's nothing like what happens after an oil spill, particularly environmental damage that can never be repaired.
Never is a really long time.
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 6:00:45am |
re: #173 marjoriemoon
And what have we learned from the Exxon Valdez spill?
Wind, water and electricity don't have any of these kinds of damages. If we had spent the time and money to tackle these issues 40 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today.
The power has to come from somewhere. Unfortunately, solar, wind and hydroelectric power aren't sufficient to meet our energy demands. Photovoltaics are only now becoming inexpensive, wind power is dependent on the weather, and hydro and geothermal sources are limited geographically. This is why we rely on nuclear and fossil fuels. I'm all for building wind farms and equipping buildings with photovoltaic window and roofs to supplement demand, but I don't think these sources will supply our needs in the near term.
As for "we wouldn't be in this mess today" I don't necessarily agree. Even if, after the '73 embargo, had we moved aggressively into nuclear generation, we'd still be relying on fossil fuels for some legacy coal and gas fired plants, and for transportation.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:01:10am |
re: #182 charlz
Couple things on this CtE. The CEO of BP was on NPR this morning and accepted full responsibility and said BP would pay for the cleanup.
See NPR [Link: www.npr.org...]
Take that with a block of salt if you'd like, but there it is. Also, there was coverage last week on the insurance issue. BP apparently doesn't insure against spills because it earns so much that the cost of clean up will depress earnings for a few quarters then it will be back to making billions. So it's unlikely that a seizure will ever be necessary.
If they pay, fine. If their armies of lawyers fan out to try and duck their responsibility, that's another matter.
BP could do an Exxon and stonewall in court for years. I would expect them to do just that, unless the CEO has some kind of control over this that goes beyond public posturing. The way I understand corporations is that if the lawyers think he promised too much, they will take over and he will get sacked.
It may indeed be too early to talk of seizing assets. But I would not take the possibility off the table.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 6:01:23am |
I hope the guy who stopped to take off his sweater was involved in the bombing because they're splashing his pic all over the place.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:03:11am |
News is reporting that authorities are searching for 'a middle aged white man' as a person of interest in the NY car bomb incident. They're playing the video on the news saying it was just released by the NYPD.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:03:15am |
re: #188 Liberal Classic
we'd still be relying on fossil fuels for some legacy coal and gas fired plants, and for transportation
Not to mention the myriad of products excluding gas/oil/ fules that are derived from oil. I don't recall the exact percentage of all oil that gets turned into some type of fuel, but only specific grades can be (i.e. light sweet crude). The rest is used for many other products
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:03:33am |
re: #190 RogueOne
I hope the guy who stopped to take off his sweater was involved in the bombing because they're splashing his pic all over the place.
My radio just said it was a white guy in his 40's. Haven't seen the pic.
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Ericus58 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:04:49am |
re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar
And FWIW, farm raised Salmon is not healthy.
Wild Salmon vs Farm Raised Salmon
[Link: www.healthcastle.com...]
"The average level of PCBs in salmon is 0.027 ppm (parts per million)
* FDA: The current FDA limit of PCBs in all fish is 2 ppm
* Health Canada: The current Health Canada's guideline for PCBs in fish is 2 ppm.
* EPA: The Environmental Protection Agency guideline on PCBs is much stricter. They recommend that fish with PCBs level between 0.024 to 0.048 ppm should be eaten 8 oz a month.
What does this mean? There is an obvious discrepancy in the limit set by various health agencies. Dr Mark Woodin of Tufts University noted that even if the strict EPA guidelines were known to be the right ones, they are based on the amount of PCBs that are thought to be capable of causing one additional cancer case in 100,000 people over a 70-year lifetime. "
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:04:49am |
re: #193 Cannadian Club Akbar
My radio just said it was a white guy in his 40's. Haven't seen the pic.
All my radio said this morning was BBBBZZZZZZZZ
((oh ,, wait ,, I had it set for alarm ,, nevahmind!!!))
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, May 3, 2010 6:05:44am |
re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar
And FWIW, farm raised Salmon is not healthy.
Nobody thought of putting in salmon ladders back then. That is a relatively inexpensive retrofit.
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 6:06:03am |
re: #187 rwdflynavy
Never is a really long time.
Yes, but certainly the effects of environmental contamination can be detected for quite some time even after cleanup -- long with respect to a single human life-span in this case.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:06:07am |
re: #194 Ericus58
Look for an Omega 6 vs. Omega 3 study.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:06:14am |
re: #187 rwdflynavy
Never is a really long time.
The oil in Alaska has permeated their beaches and is still there some 20 years later. When is that going away?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, May 3, 2010 6:06:56am |
re: #199 marjoriemoon
The oil in Alaska has permeated their beaches and is still there some 20 years later. When is that going away?
Sooner than never is my bet. Might take hundreds of years, but never is a bit much.
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 6:07:44am |
re: #192 sattv4u2
Not to mention the myriad of products excluding gas/oil/ fules that are derived from oil. I don't recall the exact percentage of all oil that gets turned into some type of fuel, but only specific grades can be (i.e. light sweet crude). The rest is used for many other products
Fossil oils are such a useful chemical feedstock, that it seems wasteful to me to burn it as a motor fuel.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:07:53am |
re: #188 Liberal Classic
So, that's why they built the factory on the volcano planet in Star Wars, Revenge of the Sith!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:09:00am |
re: #193 Cannadian Club Akbar
Muhammad "Bubba" Johnston?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:09:55am |
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:10:06am |
re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar
Look for an Omega 6 vs. Omega 3 study.
Are you talking about fat ratio studies? I've read some info about studies related to ratios in other meat, like beef and chicken.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 6:10:07am |
This is going to come as a shock to some people:
Supreme Court Seems Skeptical of Keeping Signatures Private
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
The Supreme Court appeared critical Wednesday of the claim that Washington state voters who signed a petition to overturn a gay-rights law are entitled to anonymity. Justice Antonin Scalia scoffed at what he called the "touchy-feely" arguments against disclosing their names, saying "you can't run a democracy this way, with everybody being afraid of having his political positions known."
"Running a democracy takes a certain amount of civic courage," Scalia said. "And the First Amendment does not protect you from criticism or even nasty phone calls when you exercise your political rights to legislate, or to take part in the legislative process."
I don't think that's correct, we've been hearing for months that we shouldn't criticize concress-critters for their votes. I thought they have the right to do as they please and we have the right to keep our mouths shut?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:12:07am |
re: #199 marjoriemoon
The oil in Alaska has permeated their beaches and is still there some 20 years later. When is that going away?
The wildlife recovered quickly.
Well, to be perfectly honest, the wildlife that didn't die.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:12:16am |
re: #181 compound idaho
The hydro dams along the the Columbia River have virtually wiped out the wild salmon runs in the Northwest. Seems almost everything comes with a price.
I submit that nuclear power carries the smallest price while we develop more renewable sources...but i think you already agree...
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 6:12:42am |
re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar
If it were a TP'er they would have picked a more appropriate target. Whoever it was didn't have any idea wtf they were doing. They even had bags of fertilizer in the vehicle thinking that somehow that was going to make the explosion bigger.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:13:06am |
re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar
Look for an Omega 6 vs. Omega 3 study.
Omega 6 is good clean fuel for your bodily engine. Flaxseed, baby!!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:13:26am |
re: #205 Jadespring
Are you talking about fat ratio studies? I've read some info about studies related to ratios in other meat, like beef and chicken.
I had a nutritionist friend years ago. Farm raised salmon is high in Omega 6 fish oils (bad) vs. wild that is high in Omega 3 oils (good). Also, go to the store. Farm raised/$5 a pound. Wild/$15 a pound. (I know you use kilos)
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:13:44am |
re: #209 RogueOne
If it were a TP'er they would have picked a more appropriate target. Whoever it was didn't have any idea wtf they were doing. They even had bags of fertilizer in the vehicle thinking that somehow that was going to make the explosion bigger.
If it was a TPer his sign would have been spelled wrong!
/
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:13:44am |
re: #197 Liberal Classic
Yes, but certainly the effects of environmental contamination can be detected for quite some time even after cleanup -- long with respect to a single human life-span in this case.
One of the advantages given to corporate entities is they never die, or at least they never have to, unlike you and I.
If the damage cleanup takes BP three human generations, tough titty.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:13:52am |
re: #188 Liberal Classic
The power has to come from somewhere. Unfortunately, solar, wind and hydroelectric power aren't sufficient to meet our energy demands. Photovoltaics are only now becoming inexpensive, wind power is dependent on the weather, and hydro and geothermal sources are limited geographically. This is why we rely on nuclear and fossil fuels. I'm all for building wind farms and equipping buildings with photovoltaic window and roofs to supplement demand, but I don't think these sources will supply our needs in the near term.
As for "we wouldn't be in this mess today" I don't necessarily agree. Even if, after the '73 embargo, had we moved aggressively into nuclear generation, we'd still be relying on fossil fuels for some legacy coal and gas fired plants, and for transportation.
Cutting oil dependence is good for all kinds of reasons. Safety, environment, foreign dependence. The hippies were yelling about this a long time ago. If we would have spent the effort then, we'd be a lot further down the road today. Certainly this spill doesn't bode well for more "drill baby drill."
I was a big proponent of solar panels, especially down in the south, but with hurricanes, it's not such a good idea. They would have to design them so they can't get blown off the roof. In Florida, I believe it costs about $30K and will virtually take you off the electric grid. But like I say, the hurricane problem is an issue.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:14:44am |
re: #206 RogueOne
This is going to come as a shock to some people:
Supreme Court Seems Skeptical of Keeping Signatures Private
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]I don't think that's correct, we've been hearing for months that we shouldn't criticize concress-critters for their votes. I thought they have the right to do as they please and we have the right to keep our mouths shut?
No we haven't been hearing for months that congress critters shouldn't be criticized. That's silly. It's the way the critizicism is done that we've been hearing for months about. Things like death threats and moranic and over the top hyperbole or critizicism based entirely on on fantasy.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:15:03am |
re: #214 marjoriemoon
The hippies were yelling about this a long time ago
while at the same time yelling against any viable alternative
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:15:45am |
re: #210 Aceofwhat?
Omega
63 is good clean fuel for your bodily engine. Flaxseed, baby!!
pimf...duh
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:15:51am |
re: #214 marjoriemoon
In a hurricane, it is not "what" the wind is blowing off your roof. It is "that" the wind is blowing off your roof.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:16:39am |
dammit ,,, my coffee is cold and
A) I don't wanna make another pot just for one cup and
B) I don't wanna drive up to the store and buy one
my life sucks!
/
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:17:08am |
re: #216 sattv4u2
The hippies were yelling about this a long time ago
while at the same time yelling against any viable alternative
Oh that's not true. They were pushing research into wind, solar and electric, mostly electric cars.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:17:08am |
re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In a hurricane, it is not "what" the wind is blowing off your roof. It is "that" the wind is blowing off your roof.
Thank you, Ron White
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 6:17:27am |
1 Detroit officer killed, 4 wounded in shooting
DETROIT – Police responding to a 911 call at a vacant house in Detroit were met with heavy gunfire early Monday that killed one officer and wounded four others, authorities said.
All five officers and one suspect, who remains in custody, were taken to a hospital, said Police Chief Warren Evans. The officers were in temporary serious condition. No information was available about the suspect.
Evans said officers responded to the tan, brick two-story bungalow about 3:30 a.m. after a next-door neighbor reported hearing gunshots. The officers positioned themselves at the front and rear entrances of the building, police spokesman John Roach said. He said officers at the front of the house were met with heavy gunfire.
The officer who was killed, who had been on the job at least 12 years and had a 10-year-old son, was shot inside the home and struck multiple times, Roach said.
"It's a tough time for all of us," said Evans. "We're all kind of in a state of shock."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:17:44am |
re: #214 marjoriemoon
My electric bill is a hundred bucks a month.
So, I could recoup the costs in 25 years.
Sounds like a deal.
/
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:09am |
re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In a hurricane, it is not "what" the wind is blowing off your roof. It is "that" the wind is blowing off your roof.
lol Right. Well the panels would probably have to be moved off the roof.
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:10am |
re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In a hurricane, it is not "what" the wind is blowing off your roof. It is "that" the wind is blowing off your roof.
Seriously.
Solar panels can be attached to roofs as securely as the roofs are to the building. Anything that can blow them off will take more than just the SPs.
Saying "they could get blown off in a hurricane" is no objection to their use at all.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:11am |
re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I didn't attribute that... shoulda... thanks.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:15am |
re: #220 marjoriemoon
Oh that's not true. They were pushing research into wind, solar and electric, mostly electric cars.
key word ,,, VIABLE,, back then, non of those were close
They did rail against the one that could have been immediatly implemented, though
NUKE
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:37am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Today is a company holiday so I'm goofing off watching ESPN, Blogging and playing with the dog.
/kicking myself for never collecting comic books as a kid
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:44am |
re: #219 sattv4u2
dammit ,,, my coffee is cold and
A) I don't wanna make another pot just for one cup and
B) I don't wanna drive up to the store and buy onemy life sucks!
/
Keep a jar of instant around. Just for times like this. (sips coffee)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 6:18:51am |
re: #220 marjoriemoon
Oh that's not true. They were pushing research into wind, solar and electric, mostly electric cars.
There was plans to build a wand farm in Virginia. The environmentalists went to court to stop it claiming the blades would kill birds & bats.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 6:19:06am |
re: #215 Jadespring
OH yes we have! Bart Stupak said his office got 50 calls and people went crazy. It was a sign of how bad and out-of-control people are.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:19:12am |
re: #229 Cannadian Club Akbar
Keep a jar of instant around. Just for times like this. (sips coffee)
YECH,,,, BLEH !!!
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:19:13am |
re: #223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My electric bill is a hundred bucks a month.
So, I could recoup the costs in 25 years.
Sounds like a deal.
/
Lucky boy. In the summer, mine is over $300, 1600 sq ft home. In the winter, it's about $150.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:19:36am |
re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar
IIRC, it was anal rape. He is a POS.
Quite Concur. Good morning, all. What ever RacerX has yesterday seems to be infecting me to today. My interview later this morning is likely a write-off. I don't want to get an interviewer sick and sitting in a crowded office when you're contagious is a quick way to make enemies.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 3, 2010 6:19:49am |
re: #230 NJDhockeyfan
There was plans to build a
wandwind farm in Virginia. The environmentalists went to court to stop it claiming the blades would kill birds & bats.
PIMF
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:20:01am |
re: #220 marjoriemoon
Oh that's not true. They were pushing research into wind, solar and electric, mostly electric cars.
Yes, but as soon as that research turns out devices that could spoil a hippie's view of the nearest ridge/field/forest/mesa or put a biomass plant anywhere within Prius-range, they start crying.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:20:11am |
re: #227 sattv4u2
key word ,,, VIABLE,, back then, non of those were close
They did rail against the one that could have been immediatly implemented, though
NUKE
In their defense, nuclear wasn't as safe then as it is today.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:20:19am |
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
A way to think out the herd of other applicants tho...
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:20:38am |
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:21:24am |
re: #230 NJDhockeyfan
There was plans to build a wand farm in Virginia. The environmentalists went to court to stop it claiming the blades would kill birds & bats.
Those damn wand farms :p
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:21:30am |
re: #233 marjoriemoon
Lucky boy. In the summer, mine is over $300, 1600 sq ft home. In the winter, it's about $150.
mine too. you just can't NOT run the AC in the summer in Florida.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:21:41am |
re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar
I had a nutritionist friend years ago. Farm raised salmon is high in Omega 6 fish oils (bad) vs. wild that is high in Omega 3 oils (good). Also, go to the store. Farm raised/$5 a pound. Wild/$15 a pound. (I know you use kilos)
Sound like it may be similar. The info I read is about the ratio of one to the other. Newer research is suggesting that a more even ratio between the two matters more then the individual counts. When you look at beef for instance, corn fed has a much higher ratio of one fat relative to the other. (Can't remember which one) and when you look at grass fed, the ratios are more even. Same with chicken.
What it's pointing to is that when you feed the animal in question the food it actually evolved to eat then you get more even ratios. Wouldn't surprise me if it's the same for fish.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:21:46am |
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
Quite Concur. Good morning, all. What ever RacerX has yesterday seems to be infecting me to today. My interview later this morning is likely a write-off. I don't want to get an interviewer sick and sitting in a crowded office when you're contagious is a quick way to make enemies.
Computer virus?
/sorry
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:22:19am |
re: #237 marjoriemoon
In their defense, nuclear wasn't as safe then as it is today.
Really? What nuclear disasters were happening back then? (please note,, disasterS is PLURAL, so Three mile Island is a given)
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:22:24am |
re: #236 Cato the Elder
Yes, but as soon as that research turns out devices that could spoil a hippie's view of the nearest ridge/field/forest/mesa or put a biomass plant anywhere within Prius-range, they start crying.
*chortle*
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:22:47am |
re: #239 Aceofwhat?
starbucks makes a very passable instant these days...
Starbucks always tasted (and smelled) burnt to me
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:23:06am |
re: #241 Aceofwhat?
mine too. you just can't NOT run the AC in the summer in Florida.
Well, actually... you can go without A/C. You chose not too.
Ask a Seminole.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:23:24am |
re: #241 Aceofwhat?
Wait. Was that a double negative?
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:23:46am |
re: #244 sattv4u2
Really? What nuclear disasters were happening back then? (please note,, disasterS is PLURAL, so Three mile Island is a given)
Chernobyl?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:23:48am |
re: #246 sattv4u2
StCharbucks always tasted (and smelled) burnt to me
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:03am |
re: #241 Aceofwhat?
mine too. you just can't NOT run the AC in the summer in Florida.
My house has a new A/C unit. My bill never got over $120. Wish I lived there.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:03am |
re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, actually... you can go without A/C.
YouYour wife and kids chose not too.Ask a Seminole.
Yeah...i could choose to be single, too. Not much of a choice;)
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:10am |
re: #231 RogueOne
OH yes we have! Bart Stupak said his office got 50 calls and people went crazy. It was a sign of how bad and out-of-control people are.
Did Stupak suggest that people shouldn't call at all or was the complaints more about the what happened in the calls, Threats, vulgarity and general harassment etc etc.
I think it was the latter.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:30am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:33am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:38am |
re: #244 sattv4u2
You didn't see the "Pepsi Syndrome"?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:24:51am |
re: #243 Cannadian Club Akbar
Computer virus?
/sorry
No, virus infecting my actual body. My computer is working just fine, but I'm coughing up stuff and I've got a fever. That to me says contagious, which means don't go to interviews.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:25:04am |
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:25:06am |
re: #233 marjoriemoon
Lucky boy. In the summer, mine is over $300, 1600 sq ft home. In the winter, it's about $150.
"There's nothing wrong with Southern Florida that a few more major hurricanes can't fix."
(Actual quote from a prominent environmentalist. I can't be bothered to look it up right now.)
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compound idaho Mon, May 3, 2010 6:25:17am |
re: #196 ralphieboy
Nobody thought of putting in salmon ladders back then. That is a relatively inexpensive retrofit.
We are getting a bit off topic, but it turns out that much of the problem is that the young fish never make it down stream to the ocean. What used to be miles of free running stream are now lakes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:25:51am |
re: #254 sattv4u2
That was a US designed and operated facility? Wow ,, who knew!
Halliburton! Cheney!
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:26:05am |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
Seriously.
Solar panels can be attached to roofs as securely as the roofs are to the building. Anything that can blow them off will take more than just the SPs.
Saying "they could get blown off in a hurricane" is no objection to their use at all.
You can now get solar shingles where the cells are embedded right into the roofing material. I'm looking into cells that you can stick right onto the roof like tape.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:26:07am |
re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wait. Was that a double negative?
Yes. I must run the AC in the summer, lest my wife run it after my expulsion. It's non-negotiable. I don't usually appreciate unilateral rules, but this one does give me strategic trump cards for later use...
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Political Atheist Mon, May 3, 2010 6:26:14am |
re: #246 sattv4u2
It is burnt. They never learned. Brown=done, black=burnt for toast and coffee beans.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:26:25am |
re: #259 Cato the Elder
"There's nothing wrong with Southern Florida that a few more major hurricanes can't fix."
(Actual quote from a prominent environmentalist. I can't be bothered to look it up right now.)
I drove through Florida City a year after Andrew. Looked like a war zone.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:26:36am |
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 6:26:37am |
re: #214 marjoriemoon
Taking one person off the grid is not really a solution to the larger problem. The advantage to wide adoption of photovoltaic cells built into to roofs and windows is the supplemental energy to reduce peak loading of the electric power grid. Reduction of peak loads is good for the environment in that supplementary generators are typically older and less efficient. Also, you incur less transmission line losses in a more distributed system. I saw an article from the IEEE about a window pane with a thin photovoltaic film. It's semi-transparent and tints the window and at the same time produces a small current. If you imagine every skyscraper in every city built with these, it is easy to envision a reduced load during peak electrical consumption around the middle of the day. However, the system is prohibitively expensive, because each window is a small voltage source and must be connected with every other window in the entire building, and all those must be connected to a system of inverters and other power electronics to condition the power to be fed into the mains. And even so, such distributed energy generation isn't necessarily a solution to the problem. It increases efficiency, reduces losses, but it doesn't eliminate the need for generating plants. We're still going to need centralized generation for the foreseeable future.
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 6:27:00am |
re: #214 marjoriemoon
Wind power and solar are both dependent on weather conditions - wind power can't run the turbines when winds go over a specified velocity or it might damage the systems. And solar systems can't run at night and aren't sufficiently efficient to build up reserves to store in batteries overnight to deal with consumption when the sun isn't shining. Unless the nation takes a serious look at nuclear and goes nuclear, we're going to have coal, gas, and oil power stations for years and decades to come that remain the backbone of the nation's energy infrastructure.
As it is, the chief complaints against new energy infrastructure is that NIMBY and environmental concerns continue trumping the need to get off oil - regardless of where it is drilled.
It took a decade to get federal regulatory approval for the Cape Wind project in Mass., and there are opponents still among environmentalists and among a local Native American tribe that could delay that project further. Other projects are slowly moving forward, including those in New Jersey where a 2-year study will determine the feasibility of a major wind power project offshore (and if the study finds that the winds aren't sufficient - what then?) Onshore wind power is opposed by the NIMBY-ots; new transmission lines are opposed by the NIMBY-ots (some complaining that it makes it easier to deliver power from coal plants to regions that want solar or alt-energy); and NIMBY-ots continue thwarting nuclear power plants and want to see many of the older plants shuttered, including those that provide a sigificant amount of power to the NYC metro region (Indian Pt.).
What we need is a streamlined alt-energy siting and implementation system to break through the red tape, and that's simply not happening because for all the talk about how people want cleaner air and "go green" they'd much rather have it done in someone else's backyard so that their own backyard remains unspoiled.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:27:40am |
re: #259 Cato the Elder
"There's nothing wrong with Southern Florida that a few more major hurricanes can't fix."
(Actual quote from a prominent environmentalist. I can't be bothered to look it up right now.)
things i hate about "environmentalists", #472.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:27:48am |
re: #267 Liberal Classic
Taking one person off the grid is not really a solution to the larger problem. The advantage to wide adoption of photovoltaic cells built into to roofs and windows is the supplemental energy to reduce peak loading of the electric power grid. Reduction of peak loads is good for the environment in that supplementary generators are typically older and less efficient. Also, you incur less transmission line losses in a more distributed system. I saw an article from the IEEE about a window pane with a thin photovoltaic film. It's semi-transparent and tints the window and at the same time produces a small current. If you imagine every skyscraper in every city built with these, it is easy to envision a reduced load during peak electrical consumption around the middle of the day. However, the system is prohibitively expensive, because each window is a small voltage source and must be connected with every other window in the entire building, and all those must be connected to a system of inverters and other power electronics to condition the power to be fed into the mains. And even so, such distributed energy generation isn't necessarily a solution to the problem. It increases efficiency, reduces losses, but it doesn't eliminate the need for generating plants. We're still going to need centralized generation for the foreseeable future.
I saw those windows at a home show demo. They are pretty cool.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:28:32am |
re: #263 Aceofwhat?
Yes. I must run the AC in the summer, lest my wife run it after my expulsion. It's non-negotiable. I don't usually appreciate unilateral rules, but this one does give me strategic trump cards for later use...
Imagine that poor Seminole brave. Wife says, "Dammit, turn on the air! You're so damn cheap! My mother told me not to marry you!"
Him, "Ain't even invented yet!"
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:28:54am |
re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, actually... you can go without A/C. You chose not too.
Ask a Seminole.
A friend of mine grew up in chickee hut in the Everglades. He told me until the age of 10, he thought his name was "Go Get the Wood."
The planet is hotter today, more lights, more cement than it was even 25 years ago. But I know people that don't have AC. The old homes have what they call "swamp coolers" out west. I don't know what they call them here. I have one actually, but it doesn't work. Like a big fan installed in the attic, they suck the hot air upwards.
But I'm a 2010 kinda gal. I like my AC.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:29:33am |
re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Imagine that poor Seminole brave. Wife says, "Dammit, turn on the air! You're so damn cheap! My mother told me not to marry you!"
Him, "
Ain't even invented yetWell, you're mother is a windbag so bring her over so the air will circulate!"
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:29:39am |
re: #254 sattv4u2
That was a US designed and operated facility? Wow ,, who knew!
Where it happened doesn't matter. Only that it was looked on as being unsafe.
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Political Atheist Mon, May 3, 2010 6:31:12am |
re: #272 marjoriemoon
Swamp coolers work in dry air. When it's humid, no real effect. Had one as a kid in the San Fernando valley, 110 degree summers spells. When we got real AC it was a blessing. There is a joke in Phoenix-What is the difference between a swamp cooler and an air conditioner in August?
Life and Death.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:31:22am |
re: #273 sattv4u2
And that's when the fight started...
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:31:23am |
re: #274 marjoriemoon
Where it happened doesn't matter. Only that it was looked on as being unsafe.
And again, there were inherent design flaws in the Chernobyl system that are NOT and never have been in any US nuke plant.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:31:41am |
SPIEGEL: Mr. Gadhafi, for years you repeatedly got into shouting matches with the Western world before making your peace with arch-enemy America four years ago. Now you have declared a holy war on tiny Switzerland, of all countries. Why?
Gadhafi: Switzerland is one country among many; sometimes you have trouble with one country, sometimes with another. We never had difficulties with Switzerland before. We used to appreciate it as a holiday destination. We used to appreciate its companies and its watches. But then Switzerland began to treat us badly. For example, the minaret issue and the publishing of nasty portrayals of the Prophet. It was necessary to draw a line with the Swiss. That is what I did in my speech in Benghazi to mark the Prophet's birthday.
SPIEGEL: And now Swiss national Max Göldi, who has absolutely nothing to do with this, has to pay for your anger against Switzerland? A man whose visa allegedly expired, who has not been able to leave Libya for nearly two years and has been in prison for months. Why are you doing nothing for him?
Gadhafi: Only the courts can decide on this.
SPIEGEL: Do you mean to tell us that you don't have the power to pardon him?
Gadhafi: This is a matter for the legal system. But I'm talking now about Switzerland. Switzerland is a state that stands outside the international community. It is not bound by any EU regulations. It is good that it joined the United Nations in 2002, but the whole time before that it was not a member. Why? It wanted to stand above international law. And that has made Switzerland into a mafia.
SNIP
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:31:44am |
re: #272 marjoriemoon
A friend of mine grew up in chickee hut in the Everglades. He told me until the age of 10, he thought his name was "Go Get the Wood."
The planet is hotter today, more lights, more cement than it was even 25 years ago. But I know people that don't have AC. The old homes have what they call "swamp coolers" out west. I don't know what they call them here. I have one actually, but it doesn't work. Like a big fan installed in the attic, they suck the hot air upwards.
But I'm a 2010 kinda gal. I like my AC.
I couldn't possible "do" Baltimore in the summer without AC. Truth be told, if LVQ assured my that my going without it would single-handedly save the planet, the planet would have to take a back seat.
And this, my friends, is why humanity in the aggregate can't stop AGW.
I take full responsibility for my share in buggering the future.
Do the rest of us?
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:32:10am |
re: #272 marjoriemoon
A friend of mine grew up in chickee hut in the Everglades. He told me until the age of 10, he thought his name was "Go Get the Wood."
The planet is hotter today, more lights, more cement than it was even 25 years ago. But I know people that don't have AC. The old homes have what they call "swamp coolers" out west. I don't know what they call them here. I have one actually, but it doesn't work. Like a big fan installed in the attic, they suck the hot air upwards.
But I'm a 2010 kinda gal. I like my AC.
I'm eventually going to build a solar chimney on my house. With the way the air flows through it, it's already perfectly designed for it. Those things do work but the building has to be the right design in the first place.
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Liberal Classic Mon, May 3, 2010 6:32:11am |
re: #270 Jadespring
I saw those windows at a home show demo. They are pretty cool.
I also saw some PV shingle replacements. Instead of roof shingles, your roof is covered with an array of durable solar panels. The down side is each one needs to be wired from the attic, and you need an expensive battery pack and inverter to supply the house. Also, you have to keep your roof clean or you lose efficiency. Also all PVs have a limited life span. Essentially, you would have to buy a new system before you recoup cost in electrical bill savings. So, there's still some economic issues with them.
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Ericus58 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:32:15am |
re: #274 marjoriemoon
Where it happened doesn't matter. Only that it was looked on as being unsafe.
The design of the Soviet/Russian reactors are very different from Western/American - and are many times more prone to breakdowns or disasters.
You really can't compare the two.
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 6:32:35am |
re: #249 marjoriemoon
Chernobyl was a result of a bad Soviet design -the RBMK system, which isn't used anywhere outside the Soviet systems; US systems use pressurized water reactors, which have proven their safety since even the TMI system didn't result in wholesale irradiation of thousands of square miles and the containment system functioned fairly well under the circumstances. TMI was largely due to human error whereas the Chernobyl incident was due to a combination of bad design and human error exacerbating the bad design features.
RBMK designs don't have the kind of containment systems found in PWRs, and if a chain reaction goes out of control, the graphite modulators actually become combustible and accelerate the reactions, causing a potential explosion (which is part of what happened with Chernobyl).
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:33:05am |
re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar
I drove through Florida City a year after Andrew. Looked like a war zone.
I was here for Andrew. I lived in Coconut Grove and had 2 friends staying with us who lived in Perrine where the storm came through. That was some scary stuff, I tell ya.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:33:13am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:34:03am |
re: #285 marjoriemoon
I was here for Andrew. I lived in Coconut Grove and had 2 friends staying with us who lived in Perrine where the storm came through. That was some scary stuff, I tell ya.
I miss CoCo Walk.:(
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:34:07am |
re: #282 Liberal Classic
Economies of scale will come into play at a point. Until then, we need Ed Begley, Jr. to do a new roof every year...
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:34:18am |
re: #229 Cannadian Club Akbar
Keep a jar of instant around. Just for times like this. (sips coffee)
Instant coffee?
ew.
Double ew.
That's not coffee.
That's sorta-coffee-flavored ick.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:34:31am |
re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Imagine that poor Seminole brave. Wife says, "Dammit, turn on the air! You're so damn cheap! My mother told me not to marry you!"
Him, "Ain't even invented yet!"
heh.
My wife was a loser magnet. I use it on occasion to reflect what her life might be like now had she remained with loser #1 - #4...she doesn't think it's fun but i love it.
"gosh, honey, if you'd only stayed with that out-of-work bricklayer...he probably wouldn't argue with you about this..."
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:35:05am |
re: #279 MandyManners
SNIP
Gadhafi omits what this is actually about: The Swiss police's halting the brutal actions of his son. For few worse phrases could be heard by servants these days than Hannibal ad portas.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:35:05am |
re: #290 reine.de.tout
Instant coffee?
ew.
Double ew.
That's not coffee.
That's sorta-coffee-flavored ick.
Zaccly ,,, it's just hot water that sortakinda smells like coffee
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:35:21am |
re: #290 reine.de.tout
Instant coffee?
ew.
Double ew.
That's not coffee.
That's sorta-coffee-flavored ick.
It is Sat that is out of coffee, not me!! (sip)
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:35:46am |
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 6:36:15am |
re: #286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah, they're big - and the key feature is that they're no where near a community, so they're acceptable. They just don't want them sited near the Jersey shore (too close - as in less than 3-5 miles) because it might spoil the views, even though it makes more sense financially since it is significantly cheaper to do build 'em in those waters than further out to sea, where the water depths and conditions make it more expensive to build and maintain.
Oh, and there's still complaints that the wind power projects kill all manner of birds, waterfowl, and bats turning them into flying sashimi - and that some environmental groups are looking to kill those projects on those very grounds.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:36:30am |
re: #280 Cato the Elder
I couldn't possible "do" Baltimore in the summer without AC. Truth be told, if LVQ assured my that my going without it would single-handedly save the planet, the planet would have to take a back seat.
And this, my friends, is why humanity in the aggregate can't stop AGW.
I take full responsibility for my share in buggering the future.
Do the rest of us?
Yep. And i welcome a local nuclear power plant...
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:36:47am |
re: #294 Cannadian Club Akbar
It is Sat that is out of coffee, not me!! (sip)
I'm sipping, also.
I will make a 2nd pot if I need it.
You're right, if he's too laaaaazy to make a 2nd pot, he deserves whatever.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:37:12am |
re: #297 Aceofwhat?
Yep. And i welcome a local nuclear power plant...
I've lived (happily) near two different ones when I was up north
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 6:37:37am |
re: #296 lawhawk
Yeah, they're big - and the key feature is that they're no where near a community, so they're acceptable. They just don't want them sited near the Jersey shore (too close - as in less than 3-5 miles) because it might spoil the views, even though it makes more sense financially since it is significantly cheaper to do build 'em in those waters than further out to sea, where the water depths and conditions make it more expensive to build and maintain.
Oh, and there's still complaints that the wind power projects kill all manner of birds, waterfowl, and bats turning them into flying sashimi - and that some environmental groups are looking to kill those projects on those very grounds.
I'm pretty sure the wildlife will eventually figure it out. That has to be the lamest NIMBY line in the book.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:37:55am |
Ahmadinejad, on arriving in New York to participate in a review meeting of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), said Western powers are not seeking to build trust with the Islamic Republic, IRNA reported.
"We should not offer ways to obtain their trust as Iran abides by the international law and acts within its framework," Ahmadinejad said as he landed at New York's JFK airport.
SNIP
Demonic, technologic willingness to harm.
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Political Atheist Mon, May 3, 2010 6:38:26am |
re: #290 reine.de.tout
:)
D_L just about lost her coffee onto the keyboard when she read that.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:38:59am |
re: #296 lawhawk
When I bring up the wind farm/bird coleslaw lawsuit fact, I get called an ass. Maybe you said it better.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:39:27am |
re: #292 Dark_Falcon
Gadhafi omits what this is actually about: The Swiss police's halting the brutal actions of his son. For few worse phrases could be heard by servants these days than Hannibal ad portas.
Surely he's not as bad as Qussay and Uday.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:39:36am |
re: #282 Liberal Classic
I also saw some PV shingle replacements. Instead of roof shingles, your roof is covered with an array of durable solar panels. The down side is each one needs to be wired from the attic, and you need an expensive battery pack and inverter to supply the house. Also, you have to keep your roof clean or you lose efficiency. Also all PVs have a limited life span. Essentially, you would have to buy a new system before you recoup cost in electrical bill savings. So, there's still some economic issues with them.
The economics are getting better. There's been a couple efficiency break through in the tech both with cells and batteries but there's always a lag between the research and getting it to the product market.
I have plans to build a couple of out buildings and am seriously looking at the roof shingles. Those wouldn't be as hard to keep clean and I'm looking at it in terms of supplementary power as well as store of emergency power. It's also a lot cheaper to new build something then retrofit. Power outages are quite frequent where I am. It's not such a big deal now but when my business gets up and running losing power for even a day could be an economic disaster.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:39:44am |
re: #300 Cato the Elder
I'm pretty sure the wildlife will eventually figure it out. That has to be the lamest NIMBY line in the book.
One bird to another
"Have you seen Doug around lately"
"No,, didn't you hear? He flew into this giant spinny thing and it cut off his head"
"ReallY,, gee ,, what should we do"
"Well ,, I plan on staying clear of giant spinny things!"
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:40:11am |
re: #292 Dark_Falcon
Gadhafi omits what this is actually about: The Swiss police's halting the brutal actions of his son. For few worse phrases could be heard by servants these days than Hannibal ad portas.
Gadafi calls it "youthful exuberance".
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:41:07am |
re: #305 MandyManners
Surely he's not as bad as Qussay and Uday.
No, he isn't. He doesn't kill his victims, at least.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:41:31am |
re: #307 sattv4u2
One bird to another
"Have you seen Doug around lately"
"No,, didn't you hear? He flew into this giant spinny thing and it cut off his head"
"ReallY,, gee ,, what should we do"
"Well ,, I plan on staying clear of giant spinny things!"
My mom had a loose parakeet that flew into a ceiling fan. The ceiling fan batted it into a wall. It was fine. But that's why it's funny.
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 6:41:41am |
re: #300 Cato the Elder
Well, you'd think that birds and wildlife would understand not to fly into buildings, but they do - by the boatload. The Empire State Building turns off its main tower lights after midnight or so because migratory birds tend to get attracted to it and fly into the building - resulting in bird kill.
During spring and fall bird migration seasons and particularly on cloudy, humid and/or foggy nights, when large numbers of birds are seen flying near the building, the tower lights are turned off. Observatory personnel on the 86th floor outdoor deck notify the engineers. The birds are attracted by the lights and there is a danger they will fly into the building and be killed.
Rinse and repeat for the hundreds of skyscrapers that don't turn off the lights, and you've got a far greater threat to birds.
Which is all the more reason to pursue nuclear technologies - less negative impact on the environment.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:42:33am |
re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar
My mom had a loose parakeet that flew into a ceiling fan. The ceiling fan batted it into a wall. It was fine. But that's why it's funny.
slept around, did it?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:43:12am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:43:58am |
re: #291 Aceofwhat?
Bet you wouldn't find it funny if she said, "Yeah. But boy! Could he lay some brick! Bow Chicka Bow Wow!"
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:44:25am |
re: #311 lawhawk
Well, you'd think that birds and wildlife would understand not to fly into buildings, but they do - by the boatload. The Empire State Building turns off its main tower lights after midnight or so because migratory birds tend to get attracted to it and fly into the building - resulting in bird kill.
Rinse and repeat for the hundreds of skyscrapers that don't turn off the lights, and you've got a far greater threat to birds.
Which is all the more reason to pursue nuclear technologies - less negative impact on the environment.
Concur. Here in Chicago, some large windows still have hawk stickers on them or are soaped to keep them from killing birds.
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 6:44:37am |
re: #314 lawhawk
Maybe the parakeet was trying to get away from the "Sandmen"?
Mornin' all.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:44:53am |
Abu Jihad, former second-in-command to Yasser Arafat, planned Fatah’s terror activities beginning in the mid-1960s. He masterminded the 1978 Coastal Road Massacre, the worst terror attack in Israel’s history, which left 38 Israeli civilians dead – 13 of them children – and 71 wounded.
Glorification of terrorists is not a new phenomenon in Palestinian society, according to a new study by Palestinian Media Watch (PMW).
Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon and PMW Director Itamar Marcus will present the results of the study – on Palestinian incitement – during a joint press conference Monday at the Foreign Ministry. The study reveals new evidence of glorification of Arab terrorists.
SNIP
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:45:11am |
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:45:15am |
You're all talking to me at once and I can't keep up LOL
At the time of Chernobyl and even after, I don't think people knew that the plants were created differently. The perception was that nuclear = bad. I don't agree with that actually. I did then, but I know better now. But I still think people have that perception stuck in their heads. I'm all for nuclear energy. We were speaking about why nuclear wasn't popular 40 years ago. (Chernobyl wasn't quite 40 years ago...)
Also, I didn't know about the solar "window" panels. Excellent idea. Now to make them affordable.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, May 3, 2010 6:45:32am |
re: #38 Cato the Elder
The usual suspects are starting up with the usual whinge about oil companies being forced to pay for cleanup after disasters being wrong-headed because "in the end, they just pass the cost on to the consumer".
Any thoughts?
1. (snidely) The free market will take care of it.
2. (less snidely) Well, who should have to pay if not the people who made the mess? If they feel that an oil company is such a public good that the state or the feds ought to do it for them, isn't the consumer just paying for it through taxes?
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 6:45:57am |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bow Chicka Bow Wow!"
Wardrobe Coordinator for a porn flick - easiest job I ever had!
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:46:04am |
re: #288 Cannadian Club Akbar
I miss CoCo Walk.:(
It's changed and you wouldn't recognize it. It's all very modern and upscale now.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:46:25am |
re: #300 Cato the Elder
I'm pretty sure the wildlife will eventually figure it out. That has to be the lamest NIMBY line in the book.
Well now there's the very real example to fall back on.
So how many birds are gonna die because of this spill?
Turbines do affect birds. They do affect bats. What's missing from the equation is an understanding of just how much other forms of energy generation effect birds and bats. If you look at all of the direct and indirect effects on things like habitat and air pollution, other forms have much higher numbers then turbines. It's just with turbines people can actually see the carcasses lying on the ground.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:46:40am |
re: #323 SteveC
Wardrobe Coordinator for a porn flick - easiest job I ever had!
Thought you were a "fluffer"?
///
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:46:58am |
re: #323 SteveC
Wardrobe Coordinator for a porn flick - easiest job I ever had!
Don't EVEN want to know what the HARDest job is!
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:25am |
re: #321 marjoriemoon
Chernobyl's reactor blew April 26, 1986. 24 years ago.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:47:33am |
re: #320 MandyManners
Well, there's that.
Hannibal Gadhafi seems to be more of a Rage Boy, rather than a outright sadist like Uday and Qussay were before the 101st Airborne and Delta Force blew their monstrous asses away.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:48:04am |
re: #324 marjoriemoon
It's changed and you wouldn't recognize it. It's all very modern and upscale now.
As long as Fat Tuesdays is still there, I'm good. (an old friend was a manger at Senior Frogs)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:48:18am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:48:19am |
re: #302 Liberal Classic
He's actually very good in the Spinal Tap guy movies...
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:48:58am |
In one document, Israel describes the import curbs as "a central pillar in the armed conflict with Hamas".
It also confirms estimates were made of how many calories Gazans need, but says these were not used for policy-making.
Israel says the blockade is to pressure Hamas, which does not recognise Israel and backs attacks on its citizens.
Three years ago, after the Islamist Hamas movement took power, Israel and Egypt tightened their closure of Gaza's borders, leaving the territory's one and half million inhabitants facing acute shortages.
SNIP
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 6:49:28am |
FNC reporting the police have talked to the registered owner of the SUV in Times Square. The genuis' scratched off the vin, however, there is a vin on the engine block and the drive axle.
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:50:27am |
re: #311 lawhawk
Well, you'd think that birds and wildlife would understand not to fly into buildings, but they do - by the boatload. The Empire State Building turns off its main tower lights after midnight or so because migratory birds tend to get attracted to it and fly into the building - resulting in bird kill.
Rinse and repeat for the hundreds of skyscrapers that don't turn off the lights, and you've got a far greater threat to birds.
Which is all the more reason to pursue nuclear technologies - less negative impact on the environment.
Another huge bird killers are house and feral cats. I always ask people that are stressed about turbines whether they have cats and whether they let them outside. Their cat likely kills more birds in a year then the that wind turbine they see in the distance.
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:50:28am |
re: #334 MandyManners
BBC News has seen documents, submitted to an Israeli Court, which give more detail than ever before about how and why Israel maintains its Gaza blockade.
In one document, Israel describes the import curbs as "a central pillar in the armed conflict with Hamas".It also confirms estimates were made of how many calories Gazans need, but says these were not used for policy-making.
Israel says the blockade is to pressure Hamas, which does not recognise Israel and backs attacks on its citizens.
Three years ago, after the Islamist Hamas movement took power, Israel and Egypt tightened their closure of Gaza's borders, leaving the territory's one and half million inhabitants facing acute shortages.
and Egypt?
Who'da thunk it?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:50:52am |
re: #335 pingjockey
FNC reporting the police have talked to the registered owner of the SUV in Times Square. The genuis' scratched off the vin, however, there is a vin on the engine block and the drive axle.
Probably on the frame panels as well.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:51:06am |
re: #321 marjoriemoon
re: #328 lawhawk
Chernobyl's reactor blew April 26, 1986. 24 years ago.
And due to the concerns here in ther states was reported immediatly that US plants had very little in common design wise with USSR ones.
I remember Seabrook in New Hampshire was being built at that time, and there was initial cries to stop it.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:51:07am |
re: #322 SanFranciscoZionist
1. (snidely) The free market will take care of it.
2. (less snidely) Well, who should have to pay if not the people who made the mess? If they feel that an oil company is such a public good that the state or the feds ought to do it for them, isn't the consumer just paying for it through taxes?
3. it's not even true. the oil company sells oil at prices related to the commodity market. they can't just "jack up" the price. the consumer is better insulated here than in most other cases, IMO.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 6:51:29am |
re: #330 SteveC
No, that was FBV's job.
I didn't think vegans were allowed to put meat in their mouths?
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:51:30am |
re: #336 Jadespring
Another huge bird killers are house and feral cats. I always ask people that are stressed about turbines whether they have cats and whether they let them outside. Their cat likely kills more birds in a year then the that wind turbine they see in the distance.
Not my cats. They're pretty stupid when it comes to hunting. Not to mention they all have a collar with a bell on it. Their gifts are more along the lines of lizards (uh-oh!) and small snakes.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:51:46am |
The judge, Richard Goldstone, accused South Africa's chief rabbi, Warren Goldstein, on Thursday of politicizing the ceremony and making it difficult for him to attend.
A spokesman for the South African Zionist Federation, Avram Krengel, said in a telephone interview Thursday that the federation had planned protests at the bar mitzvah, but had agreed with the family to drop them on condition that Goldstone not attend.
He said both sides agreed not to comment further until after the bar mitzvah, which news reports say will take place in May at the Sandton Synagogue in Johannesburg.
Goldstone's findings that the three-week Gaza military operation Israel launched in December 2008 was disproportionate and that both the Israeli military and Palestinian militants had committed war crimes were condemned by Israel and rejected as biased by the U.S. House of Representatives.
SNIP
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:52:30am |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bet you wouldn't find it funny if she said, "Yeah. But boy! Could he lay some brick! Bow Chicka Bow Wow!"
Ha! Well done. But no worries. The door's open, and neither of us are remotely interested in walking out of it. 10 years going on 50...
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:52:31am |
re: #340 Aceofwhat?
3. it's not even true. the oil company sells oil at prices related to the commodity market. they can't just "jack up" the price. the consumer is better insulated here than in most other cases, IMO.
Well - if the commodity supply is short because of an incident, the price will go up. But you're correct - there is some insulation there.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:52:33am |
re: #337 reine.de.tout
BBC News has seen documents, submitted to an Israeli Court, which give more detail than ever before about how and why Israel maintains its Gaza blockade.
and Egypt?Who'da thunk it?
I somehow doubt Egypt will be forced to turn over its documents regarding the blockade to an Egyptian court.
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 6:52:49am |
re: #336 Jadespring
We just had a big feral cat roundup here. The state is getting ready to reroute a road and there was a huge feral cat population by the local Fred Meyer. The cat lovers were feeding these cats and they just kept increasing. I know they had to do a number on the quail population.
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:53:21am |
re: #346 MandyManners
I somehow doubt Egypt will be forced to turn over its documents regarding the blockade to an Egyptian court.
I'm with ya.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:53:46am |
re: #331 Cannadian Club Akbar
As long as Fat Tuesdays is still there, I'm good. (an old friend was a manger at Senior Frogs)
Senior Frogs LOL was usually the first place to stop on the Happy Hour circuit.
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 6:53:53am |
re: #343 MandyManners
Protests at the actual synagogue is gauche and assholish. His grandson did nothing wrong. I wouldn't mind at all if they protested him at his airport, or his hotel, but taking it to the synagogue is wrong.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:54:06am |
re: #348 pingjockey
Was the SUV reported stolen?
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:54:24am |
re: #336 Jadespring
Another huge bird killers are house and feral cats. I always ask people that are stressed about turbines whether they have cats and whether they let them outside. Their cat likely kills more birds in a year then the that wind turbine they see in the distance.
SO true. well done.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:55:21am |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 6:55:23am |
re: #345 reine.de.tout
Well - if the commodity supply is short because of an incident, the price will go up. But you're correct - there is some insulation there.
yes, true. it's just not something the company controls...it would be far less expensive for them to simply idle some of their production capacity.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:55:36am |
The story began as Jewish students held a celebration in honor of Israel's recent Independence Day outside the student union offices. A group of students from the Muslim Student Association came to the event and began yelling at those present, accusing Israel of mistreating Arabs
SNIP
Masalkhi said “hotheads” in his group were responsible for escalating the argument by flying a Palestinian Liberation Organization flag from a structure the Jewish students were using for their event. A Jewish student attempted to throw the flag in the trashbin , and was struck by one of the Muslim students.
Jewish students were also upset over graffiti written on the campus plaza the day before the event. The graffiti included a swastika and obscene remarks.
Masalkhi admitted that the Muslim Student Association had written anti-Israel comments on the plaza pavement, but said the association was not involved in writing anti-Semitic slurs.
SNIP
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 6:55:40am |
re: #298 reine.de.tout
I'm sipping, also.
I will make a 2nd pot if I need it.
You're right, if he's too laaazy to make a 2nd pot, he deserves whatever.
Good morning reine...
I'm drinking am/pm super volt coffee...I can actually feel my chest hairs growing now...:)
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:10am |
re: #342 reine.de.tout
Not my cats. They're pretty stupid when it comes to hunting. Not to mention they all have a collar with a bell on it. Their gifts are more along the lines of lizards (uh-oh!) and small snakes.
My cats stay inside. When I lived in another place and had cats they were outside cats and constantly killed birds and other things. The bells didn't seem to make a difference. Here I decided to keep them inside. Too many critters outside that would kill them as well as I live smack dab on a migration route. We have a lot of rare and endangered birds come through and I would feel really bad if my cats were killing them off. They have enough problems as it is.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:11am |
re: #349 reine.de.tout
I'm with ya.
I wonder how many human rights groups devoted to the Palestians exist in Egypt.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:24am |
re: #341 RogueOne
See? You don't actually eat it...
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:24am |
re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar
Please don't use that phrase while talking porn.
/
Got all the LGFers on their toes this mornin'! :)
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:36am |
re: #351 Obdicut
Protests at the actual synagogue is gauche and assholish. His grandson did nothing wrong. I wouldn't mind at all if they protested him at his airport, or his hotel, but taking it to the synagogue is wrong.
I agree.
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:43am |
re: #358 MandyManners
Tolerance! On college campus', not so much.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 6:56:51am |
re: #359 HoosierHoops
Good morning reine...
I'm drinking am/pm super volt coffee...I can actually feel my chest hairs growing now...:)
1) A little late for a sweater, no!?!?
2) To match you back hairs??
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:57:04am |
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:57:05am |
re: #359 HoosierHoops
Good morning reine...
I'm drinking am/pm super volt coffee...I can actually feel my chest hairs growing now...:)
Good morning, HH!
I'm no good in the morning 'til I've had at least 3 cups of my dark roast.
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Political Atheist Mon, May 3, 2010 6:57:18am |
re: #347 pingjockey
The smarter cat lover will get the cats in for spaying and neutering. Here in some closed property off the end of an LAX runway they did this. Catch/spay/release. The population declined to the point hey could capture the last few and adopt them out. Of course this takes time. When the construction crews show up, its too late.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 6:57:40am |
re: #343 MandyManners
My heart bleeds for Mr. Goldstone. He should have thought about what his community would think before he came out with his anti-Israel hatchet job.
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RogueOne Mon, May 3, 2010 6:58:08am |
Mayor Bloomberg finally does something I like:
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
Stephen Goldsmith, a former Indianapolis mayor and Manhattan Institute bigwig, is expected to replace outgoing Deputy Mayor Ed Skyler -- a move that could position the City Hall newcomer to run for the top job down the road.Sources said Goldsmith would be assuming the job of deputy mayor for operations, a wide-ranging post that Skyler held for several years and that includes helping manage key agencies, including the NYPD and FDNY.
He will be, as Skyler was, the lone Republican at City Hall.
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 6:58:23am |
I can have coffee until 8am PDT, then I get to drink some barium for a noon CT scan. Oh yeah!///
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:58:35am |
“A new short range anti-Cruise defence system with the capability to fire 4,000 rounds of bullets per minute has been produced at the defence ministry and soon will be inaugurated,” Ahmad Vahidi said on semi-official Fars news agency.
“We are at the design and production phase of various defence systems in the short, medium and long-range categories,” he added, citing the Mersad air defence and Shahin missile defence systems.
SNIP
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:58:55am |
re: #361 MandyManners
I wonder how many human rights groups devoted to the Palestians exist in Egypt.
gee. Great question.
I would think exactly zero.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:58:56am |
re: #372 pingjockey
I can have coffee until 8am PDT, then I get to drink some barium for a noon CT scan. Oh yeah!///
PARTY AT PING'S HOUSE!!!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 6:59:09am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 6:59:56am |
re: #375 Cannadian Club Akbar
PARTY AT PING'S HOUSE!!!
Barium kegger just doesn't sound right.
/hope all is well, Ping
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 6:59:58am |
re: #351 Obdicut
Protests at the actual synagogue is gauche and assholish. His grandson did nothing wrong. I wouldn't mind at all if they protested him at his airport, or his hotel, but taking it to the synagogue is wrong.
Well, good morning!
Where ya been?
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 6:59:59am |
re: #369 Rightwingconspirator
They managed to trap them all and did the spay and neuter and put them up for adoption. I have no idea how well that worked out. My granpa had barn cats for the orchard and they weren't approachable at all.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:00:07am |
re: #370 Dark_Falcon
My heart bleeds for Mr. Goldstone. He should have thought about what his community would think before he came out with his anti-Israel hatchet job.
I don't like that this affects his grandson but, actions have consequences.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:00:15am |
re: #347 pingjockey
We just had a big feral cat roundup here. The state is getting ready to reroute a road and there was a huge feral cat population by the local Fred Meyer. The cat lovers were feeding these cats and they just kept increasing. I know they had to do a number on the quail population.
We had the same problem.
The Humane Society has a program they call TNR - Trap Neuter Release. It's a bit costly. I'm trying to remember, like $25 to rent one cage, but they have a mobile service that comes around and neuters the cats. Doesn't help the bird problem, but the reproduction problem.
I was part of a neighborhood committee to secure a $2500 grant for our neighborhood. We didn't get it, but the neighbors pitched in and we did get some of the cats done. The bird problem is still a problem. And people still continue to dump their cats here (arrrgghhhh).
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:00:18am |
re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar
My mom had a loose parakeet that flew into a ceiling fan. The ceiling fan batted it into a wall. It was fine. But that's why it's funny.
Speaking of Ceiling fans...The other morning I woke up slipped on a tee-shirt and raised up my arms and caught my fingers in the overhead fan...
My fingers tips on my right hand are black and Blue...I wish I knew how to just type with my left hand...cause they hurt
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:00:31am |
re: #374 reine.de.tout
gee. Great question.
I would think exactly zero.
Remember Egypt's gassing of a tunnel?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:01:27am |
re: #382 HoosierHoops
Speaking of Ceiling fans...The other morning I woke up slipped on a tee-shirt and raised up my arms and caught my fingers in the overhead fan...
My fingers tips on my right hand are black and Blue...I wish I knew how to just type with my left hand...cause they hurt
So, same brain power as a parakeet? Good thing you're a nuke...
///
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:01:28am |
re: #377 Cannadian Club Akbar
This is the follow up to my Feb surgery. I also get an IV contrast, so I will have had a good dose of radioactive isotopes!
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:01:38am |
re: #382 HoosierHoops
Speaking of Ceiling fans...The other morning I woke up slipped on a tee-shirt and raised up my arms and caught my fingers in the overhead fan...
My fingers tips on my right hand are black and Blue...I wish I knew how to just type with my left hand...cause they hurt
You must have either the highest platform bed ever OR the lowest cielings!
(either that, or you stood up ON the bed to put your T-Shirt on)
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 7:02:09am |
re: #382 HoosierHoops
Speaking of Ceiling fans...The other morning I woke up slipped on a tee-shirt and raised up my arms and caught my fingers in the overhead fan...
My fingers tips on my right hand are black and Blue...I wish I knew how to just type with my left hand...cause they hurt
Ouch!
Didn't your mom ever tell you not to stick your fingers into a running fan?
That lesson is imprinted in my brain.
Unfortunately, she kept all the electrical outlets hidden and never said a word to us about those. So one day, I stuck a key into the outlet . . .
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:03am |
re: #387 reine.de.tout
Ouch!
Didn't your mom ever tell you not to stick your fingers into a running fan?
That lesson is imprinted in my brain.
Unfortunately, she kept all the electrical outlets hidden and never said a word to us about those. So one day, I stuck a key into the outlet . . .
shocking story!
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:04am |
re: #381 marjoriemoon
Dumping animals is just wrong. Also, depending on where you live, it can screw up the local ecology. See FLA and the damn boa constictor problem.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:09am |
re: #373 MandyManners
Bad link, Mandy. And don't worry much about all these systems Iran claims. Very few of them have actually entered series production. Iran usually doesn't have the know-how to produce a version their armed forces can actually use.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:19am |
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:38am |
re: #360 Jadespring
My cats stay inside. When I lived in another place and had cats they were outside cats and constantly killed birds and other things. The bells didn't seem to make a difference. Here I decided to keep them inside. Too many critters outside that would kill them as well as I live smack dab on a migration route. We have a lot of rare and endangered birds come through and I would feel really bad if my cats were killing them off. They have enough problems as it is.
Same problem! We feed some strays. My theory is that if they're well fed, they won't hunt. Well, it's not the best theory, they still hunt, but not as often. We've taken in 5 strays so I can't take in anymore (1 just died after a long healthy life).
I also didn't go for the bell because one of our outside cats is a pretty good mouser and I don't want to discourage that.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:48am |
re: #386 sattv4u2
You must have either the highest platform bed ever OR the lowest cielings!
(either that, or you stood up ON the bed to put your T-Shirt on)
i can touch all of my ceiling fans too. i'm just in no hurry to put a shirt on...it delays the production and consumption of coffee...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:03:54am |
re: #390 pingjockey
Dumping animals is just wrong. Also, depending on where you live, it can screw up the local ecology. See FLA and the damn boa constictor problem.
Python problem.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:04:24am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:04:32am |
Two of the SEALs, Jonathan Keefe and Julio Huertas, were cleared of wrongdoing during military trials in Baghdad last month. Prosecutors argued that they helped cover up the mistreatment of Ahmed Hashim Abed in Fallujah in September. Abed is thought to have masterminded the killing of four Blackwater contractors in Fallujah in 2004.
The SEAL who will stand trial beginning today, Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, is the only one who is accused of physically harming Abed. The charges against him include assault for allegedly punching Abed in the midsection; dereliction of duty for not protecting Abed; and making a false statement to an investigator who later interviewed him about the matter.
All three SEALs are assigned to SEAL Team 10, headquartered at Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek. They could have accepted administrative punishment but chose instead to fight the charges.
SNIP
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:04:45am |
This is the next county over from me. I actually know the guy - he came into the museum that I used to work at to set up Kops and Kids programs!
Melvin, 47, of Bishopville, and the others are charged with conspiracy since 2006 to possess with intent to distribute five kilograms or more of cocaine and 50 grams of crack cocaine. Melvin has been sheriff since 2001.
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 7:04:46am |
re: #339 sattv4u2
Concerns over nuclear power and escape plans on Long Island killed the Shoreham plant after opposition grew following TMI, which was completed but never turned on and finally killed after Chernobyl. Taxpayers on Long Island had to pay the bill for the work already done - about a $6 billion worth.
Oh, and get this:
In 2005, two 100-foot-high wind turbines with 25-foot blades were erected at Shoreham and attached to the electric grid, generating a peak power of 50 kilowatts each (1/8000 of the power that the nuclear plant would have generated).
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 7:04:55am |
re: #387 reine.de.tout
Ouch!
Didn't your mom ever tell you not to stick your fingers into a running fan?
That lesson is imprinted in my brain.
Unfortunately, she kept all the electrical outlets hidden and never said a word to us about those. So one day, I stuck a key into the outlet . . .
I was the type of kid that had to test what mom said about sockets. I used my pinky finger.
Mom said I had to test a lot of things she said and sometimes wonders how I survived childhood.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 3, 2010 7:04:57am |
re: #334 MandyManners
In one document, Israel describes the import curbs as "a central pillar in the armed conflict with Hamas".
It also confirms estimates were made of how many calories Gazans need, but says these were not used for policy-making.
WTF? This is pure bullshit. There is no shortage of food in Gaza, as any Daylife photo will confirm, and there are plenty of fat people walking around.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:05:32am |
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:05:59am |
re: #396 Cannadian Club Akbar
I knew it was a big snake. I was stationed in Cape Canaveral in the mid 80s and I remember the Orlando news showing a 300lb python being removed from underneath a house. Apparently the cable guy came nose to nose with it in the crawl space!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:00am |
re: #391 Dark_Falcon
Bad link, Mandy. And don't worry much about all these systems Iran claims. Very few of them have actually entered series production. Iran usually doesn't have the know-how to produce a version their armed forces can actually use.
Fixed.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:01am |
re: #386 sattv4u2
You must have either the highest platform bed ever OR the lowest cielings!
(either that, or you stood up ON the bed to put your T-Shirt on)
LOL
There was a reason I played Basketball...
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:05am |
re: #390 pingjockey
Dumping animals is just wrong. Also, depending on where you live, it can screw up the local ecology. See FLA and the damn boa constictor problem.
It's awful and sick. People think the Humane society is worse. Better to put them down (at least they have a chance of adoption) then to relegate them to the environment where they starve and get hit by cars, maybe to die or maybe to just suffer.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:39am |
re: #397 sattv4u2
Monty?
No. Florida has a problem with released Burmese Pythons. They've flourished in the swamps, where they pose a threat to everything from raccoons to deer. The biggest of them are large enough to swallow a bulldog whole.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:50am |
re: #402 Alouette
WTF? This is pure bullshit. There is no shortage of food in Gaza, as any Daylife photo will confirm, and there are plenty of fat people walking around.
Well, it's the Beeb.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:53am |
re: #395 Aceofwhat?
i can touch all of my ceiling fans too. i'm just in no hurry to put a shirt on...it delays the production and consumption of coffee...
The only ceiling fan in my house thats "touchable" (total of 4 of them) without standing on something is the one in my sons bedroom.
Vaulted cieling in the master bedroom, bottom of fan is at least 10 feet off the floor
10 foot ceiling in family room and screened porch with a fan thats flush mounted
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:06:57am |
re: #401 Jadespring
I was the type of kid that had to test what mom said about sockets. I used my pinky finger.
Mom said I had to test a lot of things she said and sometimes wonders how I survived childhood.
it's science!!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:07:46am |
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:07:48am |
re: #408 Dark_Falcon
No. Florida has a problem with released Burmese Pythons. They've flourished in the swamps, where they pose a threat to everything from raccoons to deer. The biggest of them are large enough to swallow a bulldog whole.
Well then I guess its a good thing people in Florida keep Pumas for pets, they need something to fight off the Pythons...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:08:08am |
Hey Sat, I'm having yet another cuppa. Heh.
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:08:13am |
re: #398 MandyManners
The SEALS lawyer is going to use a story ran by Geraldo as a basis for dismissing the charges. Geraldo reported the general was catching hel from further up the chain of command about prosecuting people, no matter the merits of the case post Abu Graib.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:08:59am |
re: #413 jamesfirecat
Well then I guess its a good thing people in Florida keep Pumas for pets, they need something to fight off the Pythons...
I don't own a puma, but I could use a cougar.:)
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:09:05am |
re: #411 Aceofwhat?
it's science!!
So your mom blinded you with...SCIENCE!?!?
/ Good heavens, Miss Ace, you're beautiful!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:09:09am |
re: #402 Alouette
Earlier this week, the BBC's Trust issued a public apology for Boyle's comedy bit, originally aired on the station's Political Animal radio show in June 2008, and in which the comedian made remarks such as: "I've been studying Israeli Army Martial Arts. I now know 16 ways to kick a Palestinian woman in the back."
Boyle had also said in his 2008 comedy bit that, while "people think that the Middle East is very complex but I have an analogy that sums it up quite well."
"If you imagine that Palestine is a big cake, well... that cake is being punched to pieces by a very angry Jew," Boyle said.
In his letter published Saturday, Boyle said that he first thought "the show's producers will have thought that Israel, an aggressive, terrorist state with a nuclear arsenal was an appropriate target for satire," adding that the BBC's recent apology proved him wrong.
SNIP
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:09:28am |
re: #400 lawhawk
Concerns over nuclear power and escape plans on Long Island killed the Shoreham plant after opposition grew following TMI, which was completed but never turned on and finally killed after Chernobyl. Taxpayers on Long Island had to pay the bill for the work already done - about a $6 billion worth.
Oh, and get this:
In 2005, two 100-foot-high wind turbines with 25-foot blades were erected at Shoreham and attached to the electric grid, generating a peak power of 50 kilowatts each (1/8000 of the power that the nuclear plant would have generated).
I've lived very close to two different plants
Pilgrim in Massachusetts and Seabrook in NH. Seabrook was completed and up and running in 86,, Pilgrim in the mid 70's. Pilgrim has been supplying something in the order of 3/4 MILLION Homes for over 30 years
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 3, 2010 7:09:56am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:10:15am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:10:23am |
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:10:35am |
re: #415 pingjockey
The SEALS lawyer is going to use a story ran by Geraldo as a basis for dismissing the charges. Geraldo reported the general was catching hel from further up the chain of command about prosecuting people, no matter the merits of the case post Abu Graib.
I'd like to think that our army isn't weak willed enough to be pushed around be Geraldo... I mean we got him to leave Iraq!
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:10:46am |
re: #420 Alouette
Fuck the BBC
Will I have to buy it diiner and flowers and promise to call the next day!?!?!?
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Jadespring Mon, May 3, 2010 7:10:52am |
re: #411 Aceofwhat?
it's science!!
Hee. I also drove Dad crazy by taking things apart to see how they work and put them back together again. I started with my mechanical toys and then moved onto radios, watches and my Dad's power tools. Anything in the house that had screws holding it together was fair game.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:11:04am |
re: #415 pingjockey
The SEALS lawyer is going to use a story ran by Geraldo as a basis for dismissing the charges. Geraldo reported the general was catching hel from further up the chain of command about prosecuting people, no matter the merits of the case post Abu Graib.
Really? Will Geraldo be cited in documents?
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:11:47am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:12:21am |
re: #425 Jadespring
Hee. I also drove Dad crazy by taking things apart to see how they work and put them back together again. I started with my mechanical toys and then moved onto radios, watches and my Dad's power tools. Anything in the house that had screws holding it together was fair game.
I used to do the same thing
Problem was, I ended up with a drawer full of ,, umm,, "extra" parts, screws and stuff!
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:12:31am |
re: #423 jamesfirecat
Heh. Geraldo wasn't doing the pushing. It sounds like the PC generals in the "Monument to Murphys Law" building,(Pentagon), were doing the pushing.
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:13:08am |
Study finds shorter work shifts aid in detection of colon polyps
Hey boss, can I have some time off so I can dodge colon cancer? Say what? That applies to the doctors?!?!
Never mind. :(
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:13:22am |
re: #427 MandyManners
Notice it took almost TWO YEARS for them to apologize!
Am I in GroundHog Day? Didn;t we have this convo a few days ago !?!?!?
Bill Murray ,, is that you !?!?
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:13:31am |
So one day, my yard man knocks on my door and says, "I just saw some guy up your street shoving little kittens out of his car." I ran up the street to find 5 little kittens milling about in the street. The car was gone or I would have called 911.
I ended up taking them to the Humane Society. Little babies are easily adopted, but what else could I do with them? Do the agonizing deed some jerk decided wasn't his problem. I hope he caught a flat on the way home.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:13:47am |
re: #417 SteveC
So your mom blinded you with...SCIENCE!?!?
/ Good heavens, Miss Ace, you're beautiful!
aw, shucks.
but my wife says i'm not as pretty with stubble;)
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:13:57am |
re: #426 MandyManners
No idea. I would think the atty has contacted Geraldo about his sources and if Geraldo gave them up I would assume the atty has contacted them. Then again, you know what happens when you assume!
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:14:29am |
re: #378 reine.de.tout
I took a trip with my fiancée up to see some friends of ours in Napa. We've asked on of them to be our officiant at our wedding-- and she had just gotten some bad news about her cancer probably reoccurring so we wanted to have a visit with her in any case. She's a grand lady, you'd like her a lot. So sharp, every conversation with her leaves me feeling like I just ran five miles; exhausted and exhilarated.
We also went to volunteer at the Voice of Roma festival, a cultural Roma festival that tries to raise awareness about the persecution and human rights violations against the Roma in Europe and Turkey. There were a few more real Roma this year, and my fiancée was very glad to see that one person there was Mrs. Wyoming, who's the first beauty-queen pageant winner of Romany descent.
Overall a nice trip, happy and sad in equal measures. And our friends are vintners and big California foodies, so we were spoiled as hell and ate like royalty.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:14:36am |
A suicide attack outside a CIA base killed one civilian and wounded two Your text to link...security guards Monday in eastern Afghanistan, an Afghan official said.
The blast happened outside Camp Chapman, the same base that was hit in December in one of the worst attacks in the history of the US intelligence agency, said Mubarez Zadran, a spokesman for the provincial governor.
The base is in Khost province, a dangerous region southeast of the capital.
The suicide bomber was in a car packed with explosives, the Afghan Interior Ministry said in a statement. The victims were all Afghans, the ministry said.
SNIP
The SAME base? How many must die before they get better security?
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:14:37am |
re: #429 pingjockey
Heh. Geraldo wasn't doing the pushing. It sounds like the PC generals in the "Monument to Murphys Law" building,(Pentagon), were doing the pushing.
Well it sounds like to me Geraldo leaned on the Pentagon with his mighty media muscles, and the pentagon in turn leaned on the soldiers, if the soldiers defense is true.
But on the other hand if the soldiers defense is true then it also means that they didn't torture any body....
Because if they did torture people being upset about getting prosecuted for it is a Dick Move extrodinare....
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:15:22am |
re: #431 sattv4u2
Am I in GroundHog Day? Didn;t we have this convo a few days ago !?!?!?
Bill Murray ,, is that you !?!?
Yes, it's a repost. I wondered if Alouette had seen it.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:15:58am |
re: #434 pingjockey
No idea. I would think the atty has contacted Geraldo about his sources and if Geraldo gave them up I would assume the atty has contacted them. Then again, you know what happens when you assume!
I don't see Geraldo giving up his sources. I could be wrong, though.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:16:05am |
re: #425 Jadespring
Hee. I also drove Dad crazy by taking things apart to see how they work and put them back together again. I started with my mechanical toys and then moved onto radios, watches and my Dad's power tools. Anything in the house that had screws holding it together was fair game.
Just like my brother.
I, on the other hand, was famous for field dissections of dead animals. I think it took a while for my parents to figure out whether to be amused or frightened of the 8-year old who kept wanting to cut open little dead frogs...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:16:56am |
re: #440 Aceofwhat?
Just like my brother.
I, on the other hand, was famous for field dissections of dead animals. I think it took a while for my parents to figure out whether to be amused or frightened of the 8-year old who kept wanting to cut open little dead frogs...
Didn't Jeffery Dahmer do that?
/backs away slowly
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:17:14am |
re: #428 sattv4u2
I used to do the same thing
Problem was, I ended up with a drawer full of ,, umm,, "extra" parts, screws and stuff!
I had a buddy at MINSY that used to tear down Machines like Lathes and Mills and put the bolts and parts in different 5 gallon buckets and would refurbish the machine and reassemble the parts...One day I put a whole box of different bolts into one of his buckets...And just waited a few days to see how his day was going.
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:17:22am |
re: #432 marjoriemoon
So one day, my yard man knocks on my door and says, "I just saw some guy up your street shoving little kittens out of his car." I ran up the street to find 5 little kittens milling about in the street. The car was gone or I would have called 911.
I ended up taking them to the Humane Society. Little babies are easily adopted, but what else could I do with them? Do the agonizing deed some jerk decided wasn't his problem. I hope he caught a flat on the way home.
I hope Bastet distracted him with some making out lesbians and so he drove into a ditch and his car was like totally wrecked but he wasn't hurt.
(Bastet is really like the best goddess ever to pray to, she covers everything from cats to lesbians to pregnancy)
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:17:47am |
re: #437 jamesfirecat
IIRC, this terrorist, claimed the SEALs beat him up after or during capture.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:18:10am |
re: #437 jamesfirecat
Well it sounds like to me Geraldo leaned on the Pentagon with his mighty media muscles, and the pentagon in turn leaned on the soldiers, if the soldiers defense is true.
But on the other hand if the soldiers defense is true then it also means that they didn't torture any body...
Because if they did torture people being upset about getting prosecuted for it is a Dick Move extrodinare...
Torture? No one was accused of that. From the snippet I posted:
The charges against him include assault for allegedly punching Abed in the midsection; dereliction of duty for not protecting Abed; and making a false statement to an investigator who later interviewed him about the matter.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:19:12am |
re: #435 Obdicut
that had to be 100x more enjoyable with the peace of mind that follows an acceptance letter, i'm sure...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:19:29am |
re: #442 HoosierHoops
Left over nuts and bolts are called "pocket parts"... can't find out where to put them? Put them in your pocket.
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 7:19:44am |
Photos from Gaza.
How about a soccer tournament based on the World Cup, including teams from the ''US", "Netherlands", "Italy", and "France". Note in this photo that one of the supposed sponsors is Pepsi.
Smokes are plentiful, but Hamas can't pay its staff of thugs and hangers-on again as the smugglers operating tunnels are having a tough time although you can see 'em working away to get the tunnels going.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:19:48am |
re: #441 Cannadian Club Akbar
Didn't Jeffery Dahmer do that?
/backs away slowly
so when are you coming over for dinner?
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:19:51am |
re: #435 Obdicut
Ahhh. Napa! Home...I grew up outside of Yountville
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:20:12am |
re: #445 MandyManners
Torture? No one was accused of that. From the snippet I posted:
The charges against him include assault for allegedly punching Abed in the midsection; dereliction of duty for not protecting Abed; and making a false statement to an investigator who later interviewed him about the matter.
Sorry my bad.
But still, America shouldn't be mistreating prisoners.
There's an obvious reason for this.
If we mistreat prisoners people will be less inclined to surrender to us.
I won't make any calls on guilt or innocence at the moment but I can't help but see the trial itself as a good thing because it shows that we're working to self police ourselves, having the watchmen watch each other if you will.
Or on the other side we could be blowing however much money the trial costs based on a bunch of lies.....
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:20:12am |
Dinnerjacket at the UN today for a Nuclear summit. How do you say "piss up a rope" in Farsi? "Cause that's what he's gonna say.
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:20:46am |
re: #447 Aceofwhat?
Well, she'd already been accepted at NYU, but the Cornell acceptance letter was 100 times better, so yes. It's the best place in the world for her to do her research; NYU was definitely second place.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:21:20am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:21:26am |
The blasts in the Bakara market went off while people were sitting inside the Abdala Shideye mosque waiting for noon prayers.
The bombings highlight the increasingly violent path Somali militants are taking following an influx of insurgents into the country from the Afghanistan conflict, fighters who are now training Somali militants.
SNIP
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:21:53am |
re: #452 jamesfirecat
The lie part is part of the terrorist handbook. Tie up your opponents, who play by the rules with their own rules.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:21:53am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:22:44am |
re: #449 lawhawk
Photos from Gaza.
How about a soccer tournament based on the World Cup, including teams from the ''US", "Netherlands", "Italy", and "France". Note in this photo that one of the supposed sponsors is Pepsi.
Smokes are plentiful, but Hamas can't pay its staff of thugs and hangers-on again as the smugglers operating tunnels are having a tough time although you can see 'em working away to get the tunnels going.
I thought the Jordyptians were boycotting Pepsi.
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:22:53am |
re: #458 MandyManners
I have no idea. FNC says this report came out a while ago, when the charges were first leveled.
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:23:22am |
re: #457 pingjockey
The lie part is part of the terrorist handbook. Tie up your opponents, who play by the rules with their own rules.
It is what it is, and its the price we pay for making the war worth winning.
What do you want to do? Just ignore them even if there's something like a 1.0% chance they could be telling the truth?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:23:55am |
re: #459 lawhawk
I asked earlier if the SUV was reported stolen. Apparently not. Thanks.
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:23:56am |
re: #454 Obdicut
Well, she'd already been accepted at NYU, but the Cornell acceptance letter was 100 times better, so yes. It's the best place in the world for her to do her research; NYU was definitely second place.
If you want to help with some important research - Ship your brain to Columbia University
These instructions outline the procedures of packing a fresh brain for shipment to the NYBB. Click on figures to enlarge them. Upon request, we provide packing material.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:24:06am |
re: #452 jamesfirecat
Sorry my bad.
But still, America shouldn't be mistreating prisoners.
There's an obvious reason for this.
If we mistreat prisoners people will be less inclined to surrender to us.
I won't make any calls on guilt or innocence at the moment but I can't help but see the trial itself as a good thing because it shows that we're working to self police ourselves, having the watchmen watch each other if you will.
Or on the other side we could be blowing however much money the trial costs based on a bunch of lies...
Of, for fuck's sake. It's war. Shit happens.
BTW, for your information, the other two were EXONERATED.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:24:17am |
re: #443 jamesfirecat
I hope Bastet distracted him with some making out lesbians and so he drove into a ditch and his car was like totally wrecked but he wasn't hurt.
(Bastet is really like the best goddess ever to pray to, she covers everything from cats to lesbians to pregnancy)
I don't do the wiccan goddess thing, but I hear ya.
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:24:32am |
Good Morning and Happy Monday to you all! As RWC is on his way into work I thought I'd pop in for a few and see how everyone is doing this gorgeous morning! :-)
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:24:33am |
re: #453 pingjockey
Dinnerjacket at the UN today for a Nuclear summit. How do you say "piss up a rope" in Farsi? "Cause that's what he's gonna say.
Why is he slated to be one of the fist to speak?!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:03am |
re: #467 Dragon_Lady
Good Morning and Happy Monday to you all! As RWC is on his way into work I thought I'd pop in for a few and see how everyone is doing this gorgeous morning! :-)
I'm having a case of the Mondays.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:04am |
re: #468 MandyManners
Why is he slated to be one of the fist to speak?!
You really do have the best typos.
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:05am |
re: #451 HoosierHoops
This was right by Yountville; maybe actually in it. Right off of Silverado Trail, near Stag's Leap winery.
We got to drink some of their awesome, awesome wine too, of course. And their house was designed by a crazy-but-awesome architect, so it's got all kinds of cool stuff like a sod roof and walls that can be rolled back to basically expose the whole house to the outside.
And the man of the pair is part of a group of twelve vintners who basically meet together to try to keep old-school Napa vintner culture alive, back when it was more friendly and they helped each other with harvests and problems, rather than it being a mercenary big-money deal. He's a really nice guy, and boy can he cook.
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:10am |
re: #466 marjoriemoon
I don't do the wiccan goddess thing, but I hear ya.
What do you mean Wiccan Goddess? Bastet is a very well respected EGYPTIAN Goddess with a lot of history behind her!
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:15am |
re: #462 jamesfirecat
God help me, sometimes yes. I did five cruises over there and I have no sympathy for nonuniformed combatants.
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:41am |
re: #468 MandyManners
Why is he slated to be one of the fist to speak?!
As in "Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove"?
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:25:51am |
re: #468 MandyManners
Why is he slated to be one of the fist to speak?!
Dinnerjacket, talk to the fist! *Smack*
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:26:10am |
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:26:14am |
re: #467 Dragon_Lady
Good Morning and Happy Monday to you all! As RWC is on his way into work I thought I'd pop in for a few and see how everyone is doing this gorgeous morning! :-)
Good Morning! It's a company holiday so I'm just goofing off today...
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:26:27am |
re: #468 MandyManners
Why is he slated to be one of the fist to speak?!
so the nausea can fade before lunchtime?
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pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 7:26:38am |
re: #468 MandyManners
To stink up the place before Hillary speaks I guess. Or to make everybody who follows sound extremely rational.
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:26:39am |
re: #477 HoosierHoops
Good Morning! It's a company holiday so I'm just goofing off today...
You do goofing well!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:26:55am |
re: #470 marjoriemoon
You really do have the best typos.
*sigh*
Thank you. Did you see the "dicked" yesterday?
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 7:27:11am |
re: #471 Obdicut
Stag's leap wine cellars is one of our favorites. They treated us royally on our honeymoon - gave us tastings of some of their premier wines. Great staff.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:27:13am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:27:42am |
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:27:58am |
And by the way:
Since when is Fox carring sex-tips articles? What the hell?
Fox on Sex: The Allure of Vibrating Panties
It gets weirder when you read it; it's a review based on personal use.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:07am |
re: #475 SteveC
Dinnerjacket, talk to the fist! *Smack*
Watch out. Some would want you brought up on charges for that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:14am |
Can someone throw a shoe at Dinnerjacket? Please?
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:24am |
re: #462 jamesfirecat
It is what it is, and its the price we pay for making the war worth winning.
What do you want to do? Just ignore them even if there's something like a 1.0% chance they could be telling the truth?
for an ACTUAL complaint, like "i was repeatedly raped and burned and broken"? investigate.
he's complaining that he got punched in the tummy-wummy? punch him in the gut again and ask him if he still wants to complain...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:40am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:50am |
re: #478 Aceofwhat?
so the nausea can fade before lunchtime?
HRC has warned him not to disrupt the proceedings.
I bet she sent a strongly worded e-mail.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:57am |
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:59am |
re: #471 Obdicut
This was right by Yountville; maybe actually in it. Right off of Silverado Trail, near Stag's Leap winery.
We got to drink some of their awesome, awesome wine too, of course. And their house was designed by a crazy-but-awesome architect, so it's got all kinds of cool stuff like a sod roof and walls that can be rolled back to basically expose the whole house to the outside.
And the man of the pair is part of a group of twelve vintners who basically meet together to try to keep old-school Napa vintner culture alive, back when it was more friendly and they helped each other with harvests and problems, rather than it being a mercenary big-money deal. He's a really nice guy, and boy can he cook.
Best food and wine in the world is in the Valley...My parents house is right off Highway 29...Did you take the tram up to Sterling winery? What a view!
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:28:59am |
re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can someone throw a shoe at Dinnerjacket? Please?
I can't aim that low!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:29:19am |
re: #479 pingjockey
To stink up the place before Hillary speaks I guess. Or to make everybody who follows sound extremely rational.
The smell of sulphur?
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:29:36am |
re: #469 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'm having a case of the Mondays.
ummm...yeaaah...we're gonna need you to move your desk...
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:29:54am |
re: #487 MandyManners
Watch out. Some would want you brought up on charges for that.
SURPRISE! I've got another fist!
And I can reload, too!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:03am |
re: #496 Aceofwhat?
ummm...yeaaah...we're gonna need you to move your desk...
I can set the building on fire.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:25am |
re: #486 Obdicut
Oh, dear lord. Can we please have some "Beck"?
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:25am |
One of the Mumbai terrorists was convicted today in the deadly attacks at various Mumbai hotels and locations, including a Chabad house. However, two co-conspirators were found not guilty of assisting the terrorists in their plot:
Pakistani terrorist, Ajmal Amir Kasab, charged with the deaths of 166 Indians and foreigners, has been pronounced guilty of all charges by a special court in Mumbai. The two Indians, who were named as co-accused in the case-- Faheem Ansari and Sabauddin Shaikh, have been acquitted.The argument on quantum of sentence to Kasab will be held tomorrow.
Kasab has been convicted on all 86 charges against him. He was found guilty or murder and waging war against the nation, the court said while delivering the judgment.
"You have been found guilty of waging war against India, and killing people at CST (train station), killing government officials and abetting the other nine terrorists," Judge M.L. Tahaliyani said as he announced his verdict. They were the most serious charges laid against Kasab, a 22-year-old Pakistani who was arrested after the Mumbai siege.
The conspiracy was hatched in Pakistan, the judge said.
The two Indian co-accused were set free because the evidence against them was weak, the court ruled. Kasab had said that the duo supplied maps of Mumbai to LeT bosses. Thus, they gave logistical support to carry out the attack. But the judge, punching a hole in the prosecution’s argument, said better maps were available on Google than the crude drawings Kasab claimed had been supplied by Ansari and Sabauddin.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:27am |
re: #496 Aceofwhat?
ummm...yeaaah...we're gonna need you to move your desk...
Always an upding for quotes from that movie.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:42am |
re: #486 Obdicut
And by the way:
Since when is Fox carring sex-tips articles? What the hell?
Fox on Sex: The Allure of Vibrating Panties
It gets weirder when you read it; it's a review based on personal use.
but was it far and balanced?
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:53am |
re: #482 lawhawk
Well, these people used to run Stag's Leap, but now they're basically right next door, running a much smaller winery. But if you went more than I think five years ago, then they were running it and you can credit them with your pleasant experience. They are the souls of hospitality.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:30:54am |
re: #426 MandyManners
Really? Will Geraldo be cited in documents?
Give the man his due: He was working to help the grunts, as a reporter should.
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:06am |
re: #485 MandyManners
Sack of Shit in a Velvet Glove.
Yeah. I get that. As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't be allowed to put foot on American soil. He contaminates everything with his presence.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:13am |
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:16am |
re: #489 Aceofwhat?
he's complaining that he got punched in the tummy-wummy? punch him in the gut again and ask him if he still wants to complain...
The beatings will continue until morale improves!
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:27am |
re: #473 pingjockey
God help me, sometimes yes. I did five cruises over there and I have no sympathy for nonuniformed combatants.
I say this from the comfort of my college dorm room, but dude that's not the
kind of statement that made America the great nation we are today.
That red tape as painful as it is to experience is part and parcel of America just as much as our various freedoms are....
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:43am |
re: #462 jamesfirecat
It is what it is, and its the price we pay for making the war worth winning.
What do you want to do? Just ignore them even if there's something like a 1.0% chance they could be telling the truth?
If it's only a 1% chance, yes. Ignore them.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:47am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:31:47am |
re: #501 Cannadian Club Akbar
BTW ,, I bit the bullet
Put on pants and a hat, scrounged 50 cents from the sofa and drove up to the corner store and bought meself a cup-o-joe
AAAHHH!!!!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 7:32:02am |
re: #506 HoosierHoops
Did they take your stapler away?
No, but I'm having trouble with the TPS reports.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 3, 2010 7:32:26am |
re: #402 Alouette
WTF? This is pure bullshit. There is no shortage of food in Gaza, as any Daylife photo will confirm, and there are plenty of fat people walking around.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:32:45am |
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:33:01am |
re: #493 HoosierHoops
No, but next time I'm there I want to climb the ridgeline behind my friend's winery and get the view from there. That's really my favorite landscape in the world; dry without being barren, the dark green of the trees standing out beautifully against the brown dry grass and the pale green of the grass lucky enough to have gotten some moisture.
We saw red-winged blackbirds fighting or mating and little blue lizards scuttling around. It was utterly peaceful and lovely.
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:33:03am |
re: #486 Obdicut
And by the way:
Since when is Fox carring sex-tips articles? What the hell?
Fox on Sex: The Allure of Vibrating Panties
It gets weirder when you read it; it's a review based on personal use.
Make me an unethical entertainment channel and then a conservative news channel to point out what's wrong with it!
AH-HA-HA-HAAAA!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:33:11am |
re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can someone throw a shoe at Dinnerjacket? Please?
Make that a jump-boot from the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) Division.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:33:37am |
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:33:45am |
re: #511 sattv4u2
BTW ,, I bit the bullet
Put on pants and a hat, scrounged 50 cents from the sofa and drove up to the corner store and bought meself a cup-o-joe
AAAHHH!!!
$.50 for coffee?? No shirt? (I've been in the big city too long.)
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:33:51am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:34:13am |
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:34:24am |
re: #513 Alouette
Yeah, it sure looks like their starving, don't it? ///
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:34:27am |
re: #514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ah geez... college? really?
I get you now.
Don't worry on the bright side (for you) I've only got another two weeks before I have to leave this warm protective womb where I guzzle down pizza day in day out and go out into the cold business world in about a fortnight...
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:34:41am |
re: #520 marjoriemoon
$.50 for coffee?? No shirt? (I've been in the big city too long.)
I work in Atlanta but live out in the country, (sorta)
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:34:50am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:35:14am |
re: #504 Dark_Falcon
Give the man his due: He was working to help the grunts, as a reporter should.
Got a link about that. Hold on.
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Obdicut Mon, May 3, 2010 7:35:29am |
re: #517 jamesfirecat
I'm always weirded out by anyone on Fox talking about Hollywood values, because from where I sit, Fox has all of the worst aspects of Hollywood values themselves. They're shallow, obsessed with sex and money, and don't care about the truth, just forming the narrative to suit themselves.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:35:36am |
re: #505 Dragon_Lady
Yeah. I get that. As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't be allowed to put foot on American soil. He contaminates everything with his presence.
Toxic cooties.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:36:09am |
re: #508 jamesfirecat
I say this from the comfort of my college dorm room, but dude that's not the
kind of statement that made America the great nation we are today.That red tape as painful as it is to experience is part and parcel of America just as much as our various freedoms are...
spoken like a dude in a dorm room...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:36:12am |
re: #500 lawhawk
One of the Mumbai terrorists was convicted today in the deadly attacks at various Mumbai hotels and locations, including a Chabad house. However, two co-conspirators were found not guilty of assisting the terrorists in their plot:
India had to let two men go after a fair trial. We may have to do the same. But the scumbag murderer has been convicted and he'll hang. There was a question earlier about how India executes criminals. They do it rarely, less often than the US. But they use hanging, which I find a fitting punishment for a terrorist.
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darthstar Mon, May 3, 2010 7:36:28am |
re: #486 Obdicut
And by the way:
Since when is Fox carring sex-tips articles? What the hell?
Fox on Sex: The Allure of Vibrating Panties
It gets weirder when you read it; it's a review based on personal use.
Men find the 9ft cord trailing behind women when they walk irresistable.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:36:40am |
re: #530 Obdicut
I'm always weirded out by anyone on Fox talking about Hollywood values, because from where I sit, Fox has all of the worst aspects of Hollywood values themselves. They're shallow, obsessed with sex and money, and don't care about the truth, just forming the narrative to suit themselves.
hehe Yea, but they have that sense of smug self-righteousness you're not supposed to notice.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:37:38am |
re: #532 Aceofwhat?
spoken like a dude in a dorm room...
Wait till he sees the breakdown of his 1st paycheck!
"But,, BUT ,, I'm supposed to be making $100,000 a year. How come my take home pay is $472????
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:38:01am |
re: #520 marjoriemoon
Guy runs up to the bartender, "Give me six shots of whiskey! Quick!"
Bartender says (as pouring the shots) , "Why the hurry, pal?"
Guy says (shooting the shots) "If you had what I had you'd be in a hurry too!"
Bartender says, "Oh my. What do you have?"
Guys says (finishing the last shot) "Fifty cents!" Slaps it down on the bar and runs out.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:38:14am |
re: #516 Obdicut
Next time you are in the valley ask directions to our only Redwood tree left.
It's a bit of a drive and hike but it's worth it..Each branch is bigger than a normal tree.. It's just amazing standing there looking up..
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:38:54am |
re: #538 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nice!!!
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:39:09am |
re: #538 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guy runs up to the bartender, "Give me six shots of whiskey! Quick!"
Bartender says (as pouring the shots) , "Why the hurry, pal?"
Guy says (shooting the shots) "If you had what I had you'd be in a hurry too!"
Bartender says, "Oh my. What do you have?"
Guys says (finishing the last shot) "Fifty cents!" Slaps it down on the bar and runs out.
heh,,, I've been in dives where fifty cents would get you an entire bottle ,,, AND a hooker !
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:39:15am |
re: #504 Dark_Falcon
Give the man his due: He was working to help the grunts, as a reporter should.
I've taken advantage of this chance to see the military up close. I have traveled to war zones with Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; with Gen. David Petraeus, the Centcom commander; and many others. I've spent weeks at a time visiting U.S. units in the field, hopping C-130s and Blackhawk helicopters and Humvees. As a result, I have seen more of Iraq and Afghanistan than I possibly could have otherwise, and I think my readers have benefited.
But embedding comes at a price. We are observing these wars from just one perspective, not seeing them whole. When you see my byline from Kandahar or Kabul or Basra, you should not think that I am out among ordinary people, asking questions of all sides. I am usually inside an American military bubble. That vantage point has value, but it is hardly a full picture.
SNIP
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:39:33am |
re: #538 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Guy runs up to the bartender, "Give me six shots of whiskey! Quick!"
Bartender says (as pouring the shots) , "Why the hurry, pal?"
Guy says (shooting the shots) "If you had what I had you'd be in a hurry too!"
Bartender says, "Oh my. What do you have?"
Guys says (finishing the last shot) "Fifty cents!" Slaps it down on the bar and runs out.
Ohhhh, FBV I can always count on you for a really good laugh! I love it!
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:39:59am |
re: #537 sattv4u2
Wait till he sees the breakdown of his 1st paycheck!
"But,, BUT ,, I'm supposed to be making $100,000 a year. How come my take home pay is $472???
Little late for that one. I've already had three summer jobs one of which basically broke down to me taking a subway for an 45 min/hour long ride either way to then do a traditional nine to five work day five days a week, to get paid $20 an hour to sit in a cubicle waiting for people to tell me what to do next.
I got through pay check time still a democrat by reminding myself I still get free room and board from my parents at that point.
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prairiefire Mon, May 3, 2010 7:41:20am |
re: #542 sattv4u2
heh,,, I've been in dives where fifty cents would get you an entire bottle ,,, AND a hooker !
Good lord!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:41:20am |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:41:32am |
re: #542 sattv4u2
heh,,, I've been in dives where fifty cents would get you an entire bottle ,,, AND a hooker !
yeah, but it comes with a free STD combo sampler...
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:41:40am |
re: #527 marjoriemoon
I just leave out whole words :p
If we could just let our brains by-pass our fingers,...
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:42:05am |
re: #549 Aceofwhat?
yeah, but it comes with a free STD combo sampler...
It's not the burning, it's all the itching!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:42:37am |
re: #540 Dragon_Lady
I think he should have persona non grata status for the rest of his life. I think he's a perfect candidate for a cross hairs photo opp.
Watch out. Someone will accuse you of betraying the values that make America great.
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What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:43:07am |
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:43:09am |
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:43:29am |
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:43:51am |
re: #552 MandyManners
Watch out. Someone will accuse you of betraying the values that make America great.
I should be so lucky!
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prairiefire Mon, May 3, 2010 7:44:06am |
re: #486 Obdicut
And by the way:
Since when is Fox carring sex-tips articles? What the hell?
Fox on Sex: The Allure of Vibrating Panties
It gets weirder when you read it; it's a review based on personal use.
Rupert is letting his panties slip. He grew his empire by selling tawdry tabloids to the masses. The so-con spouting on Fox is just a ruse.
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Spider Mensch Mon, May 3, 2010 7:44:18am |
re: #545 jamesfirecat
Little late for that one. I've already had three summer jobs one of which basically broke down to me taking a subway for an 45 min/hour long ride either way to then do a traditional nine to five work day five days a week, to get paid $20 an hour to sit in a cubicle waiting for people to tell me what to do next.
I got through pay check time still a democrat by reminding myself I still get free room and board from my parents at that point.
man, I got a ton of snark, but I'll let you paint yourself into the corner alone on this...lol ))))) 3 summer jobs?..snicker snicker...
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:44:42am |
re: #547 prairiefire
Good lord!
Hey ,, I never said it was top shelf booze ,,, or a fully functioning hooker, for that matter!
But whaddya expect for half a buck @!?!?!?!?
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:44:43am |
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:44:56am |
re: #554 marjoriemoon
I'm not familiar with this...
I'll know more when I get it back to the lab.
// CSI:LGF
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:45:39am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:45:46am |
re: #545 jamesfirecat
Don't take this wrong. It's not that I don't value your opinion (which I don't, I KID!), it's just that... well... I wish anyone in college who posts on political blogs would start each post with...
I say this from the comfort of my college dorm room...
That being said, you have as much right to be here as me (no, you don't).
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Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 7:46:01am |
re: #482 lawhawk
Stag's leap wine cellars is one of our favorites. They treated us royally on our honeymoon - gave us tastings of some of their premier wines. Great staff.
Good morning LGF and lizard nation.
Your post reminded me I have a Stags Leap 1986 Cab. Just one. Maybe someday...
My daughter has worked in the wine industry of Napa and Sonoma almost 15 years. We have a routine when I visit: She selects the restaurant (I pay) and she brings a bottle from her private stash probably worth twice the price of dinner. I love that little girl.
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Joo-LiZ Mon, May 3, 2010 7:46:03am |
Morning, Lizards.
I'll be popping in and out throughout the day. Has anybody talked about the claim by Pakistani Taliban that they were behind the attempted Times Square car-bombing?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:46:50am |
re: #551 Cannadian Club Akbar
That whisp of smoke? That means it's working.
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:47:00am |
re: #565 Semper Fi
Good morning LGF and lizard nation.
Your post reminded me I have a Stags Leap 1986 Cab. Just one. Maybe someday...
My daughter has worked in the wine industry of Napa and Sonoma almost 15 years. We have a routine when I visit: She selects the restaurant (I pay) and she brings a bottle from her private stash probably worth twice the price of dinner. I love that little girl.
Such a good daughter you have!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:47:27am |
re: #566 Joo-LiZ
Morning, Lizards.
I'll be popping in and out throughout the day. Has anybody talked about the claim by Pakistani Taliban that they were behind the attempted Times Square car-bombing?
Lawhawk has an update on his blog. They're looking for a 40ish white guy.
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jamesfirecat Mon, May 3, 2010 7:47:32am |
re: #564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't take this wrong. It's not that I don't value your opinion (which I don't, I KID!), it's just that... well... I wish anyone in college who posts on political blogs would start each post with...
That being said, you have as much right to be here as me (no, you don't).
I think you mean "should start each post with" rather than "would start each post with" in the sense of a warning label, right?
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:47:34am |
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:48:45am |
re: #573 Dragon_Lady
Isn't that from CSI:Miami?
Yep! But people seem to get a bit worried when you slip on your sunglasses and shout YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH!!
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:49:52am |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:50:02am |
re: #552 MandyManners
Watch out. Someone will accuse you of betraying the values that make America great.
Don't worry, Ludwig isn't around to book your ticket to Pyongyang. ;)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:50:10am |
re: #572 jamesfirecat
Well, not a warning label as much as a "I am required by law to think this way until I live in the real world." disclaimer.
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:50:26am |
re: #574 SteveC
Yep! But people seem to get a bit worried when you slip on your sunglasses and shout YEEEAAAHHH!!
David Caruso is literally unwatchable for me.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:50:45am |
Samiullah Khan said the hideouts hit were in the Dabori area and its neighbouring villages of the Orakzai tribal region near the Afghan border. He added the aerial strikes also destroyed six militant compounds.
Pakistani forces launched an operation in Orakzai in mid-March to flush out militants who last year fled an army offensive in South Waziristan. The troops are believed to have retaken several areas from the Taliban in the region.
SNIP
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:51:17am |
re: #580 Aceofwhat?
David Caruso is literally unwatchable for me.
Same here. I liked him in NYPD/ Blue, but since then, not so much
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 7:51:33am |
re: #452 jamesfirecat
Sorry my bad.
But still, America shouldn't be mistreating prisoners.
There's an obvious reason for this.
If we mistreat prisoners people will be less inclined to surrender to us.
I won't make any calls on guilt or innocence at the moment but I can't help but see the trial itself as a good thing because it shows that we're working to self police ourselves, having the watchmen watch each other if you will.
Or on the other side we could be blowing however much money the trial costs based on a bunch of lies...
Not to mention the cost to the individual. I would hate to be an innocent person chosen to be the guinea pig for a trial intended to simply show that we're police ourselves. Not saying that this guy is, I'm making no judgment there, but if the charges are not true, disrupting this person's life for a "show" trial is disgusting.
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Joo-LiZ Mon, May 3, 2010 7:51:36am |
re: #571 Cannadian Club Akbar
Lawhawk has an update on his blog. They're looking for a 40ish white guy.
Thanks! He's got a lot of good stuff there.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:51:39am |
re: #580 Aceofwhat?
First South Park episode... "Ike! Do your impression of David Caruso's career after NYPD Blue", Ike jumps out the window, plummets to the ground.
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Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 7:51:43am |
re: #569 Dragon_Lady
Such a good daughter you have!
Just talking about this... I'll call her today and make arrangements for another visit from Dad.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:52:05am |
re: #566 Joo-LiZ
Morning, Lizards.
I'll be popping in and out throughout the day. Has anybody talked about the claim by Pakistani Taliban that they were behind the attempted Times Square car-bombing?
Commissioner Kelly nixed that idea.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:52:15am |
re: #582 sattv4u2
Same here. I liked him in NYPD/ Blue, but since then, not so much
He left that show to do only movies. How's that working out Dave? Heh.
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:52:20am |
re: #574 SteveC
Yep! But people seem to get a bit worried when you slip on your sunglasses and shout YEEEAAAHHH!!
Not me! I love all the CSI's! Did you know CSI:Miami is filmed here in Los Angeles? One of our former neighbors works on the set and sometimes he used to drive the hummer home after work and park it in our building lot, I got RWC to take my pic next to it! So cool!
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Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:52:22am |
re: #582 sattv4u2
Same here. I liked him in NYPD/ Blue, but since then, not so much
there is less ham in a ham sandwich, even if you hold the bread.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:52:48am |
re: #577 Dark_Falcon
Don't worry, Ludwig isn't around to book your ticket to Pyongyang. ;)
No kimchi for me?
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SteveC Mon, May 3, 2010 7:52:56am |
re: #580 Aceofwhat?
David Caruso is literally unwatchable for me.
The Sunglasses of Justice are watching you! :)
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:53:02am |
re: #580 Aceofwhat?
David Caruso is literally unwatchable for me.
Too bad. I love him and all the cast!
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:53:14am |
re: #580 Aceofwhat?
David Caruso is literally unwatchable for me.
I wanna' reach through the screen and smack him silly.
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Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 7:53:47am |
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lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 7:53:48am |
re: #566 Joo-LiZ
The Taliban claim responsibility - and that's a video that was apparently authentic. However, there doesn't appear to be any ties to the Taliban. Just because the Taliban video is authentic doesn't mean that the Taliban aren't lying about a connection. They could be just trying to take responsibility where none exists. Moreover, they're taking credit for a failed attack.
| 597 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:53:53am |
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Reginald Perrin Mon, May 3, 2010 7:54:00am |
re: #577 Dark_Falcon
I wouldn't worry too much either, there would be hell to pay if they carried out their threat.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
| 599 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:54:16am |
re: #593 Dragon_Lady
Too bad. I love him and all the cast!
You need to watch Dexter. Now THAT is a police show with real actors doing real acting!
| 600 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:54:30am |
re: #586 Semper Fi
Just talking about this... I'll call her today and make arrangements for another visit from Dad.
Which winery does she work for? RWC and I were thinking of heading up to Napa for a short vacation.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:02am |
re: #573 Dragon_Lady
Isn't that from CSI:Miami?
All the CSI shows use music from The Who. Here, have a listen:
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:07am |
re: #599 Aceofwhat?
You need to watch Dexter. Now THAT is a police show with real actors doing real acting!
Nah, serial killers give me the creeps.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:10am |
re: #565 Semper Fi
Good morning LGF and lizard nation.
Your post reminded me I have a Stags Leap 1986 Cab. Just one. Maybe someday...
My daughter has worked in the wine industry of Napa and Sonoma almost 15 years. We have a routine when I visit: She selects the restaurant (I pay) and she brings a bottle from her private stash probably worth twice the price of dinner. I love that little girl.
Awesome! Try to make it to the French Laundry...She'll laugh at you...I think it takes about a month or two to make the list...I like Mustards..
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Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:27am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:36am |
re: #599 Aceofwhat?
You need to watch
DexterThe Wire. Now THAT is a police show with real actors doing real acting!
I do like Dexter though.
I missed Breaking Bad last night, but I taped it. Or at least I set the vcr to tape it. I'll find out tonight if it worked.
| 606 |
lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:38am |
re: #594 MandyManners
I'll have me some Abby Sciuto and Ziva David any day of the week.
| 607 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:55:42am |
re: #572 jamesfirecat
Oh, actually, you're smart as hell. I'm just being a wise-ass.
| 608 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:56:06am |
Government supporters had blocked the women, known as Ladies in White, from marching for the past two Sundays.
The archbishop of Havana said he had intervened on behalf of the women.
Cardinal Jaime Ortega said the authorities had agreed to allow the marches during the month of May, after which they would review their decision.
SNIP
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:56:21am |
re: #597 Cannadian Club Akbar
I like the hot Spanish chick.
I only have room in my lie for one Hot Spanish Chick!
| 610 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 7:56:36am |
re: #609 sattv4u2
I only have room in my liFe for one Hot Spanish Chick!
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:56:37am |
re: #601 Dark_Falcon
All the CSI shows use music from The Who. Here, have a listen:
[Video]
:( *sigh* My friend our sound card is on the fritz, but I have the music on my ipod touch and I listen to it all the time. Thanks anyways!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:56:58am |
| 613 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 7:57:06am |
re: #606 lawhawk
I'll have me some Abby Sciuto and Ziva David any day of the week.
They don't do much for me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:57:14am |
re: #581 MandyManners
Cobras fang terror scum. I love the smell of Hellfire exhaust in the morning. Smells like victory.
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darthstar Mon, May 3, 2010 7:57:23am |
The Onion must have hired a new writer who recalls how their sarc used to be...this story on the new Nerf Biological Weapons toys is pretty good.
"Get ready to feel your chest slowly fill with excitement!" said Nerf spokesperson Patricia Mora, holding up a small plastic test tube filled with 10 milligrams of her company's newest toy. "Just grab a friend, unleash a few neon microorganisms, and prepare for a squishy attack on your entire central nervous system."
...... One vial of Nerf biotoxin, priced at $14.99, can entertain up to 20 children or one densely populated metropolitan area for up to six unforgettable days.
...
"It was so cool," 11-year-old test user Alex Richanbach said. "First I started shaking a little, and then I got really, really hot. After that, everything went dark and dizzy, and when I woke up in the backyard, I puked up a bunch of foam balls."
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Joo-LiZ Mon, May 3, 2010 7:57:33am |
re: #596 lawhawk
The Taliban claim responsibility - and that's a video that was apparently authentic. However, there doesn't appear to be any ties to the Taliban. Just because the Taliban video is authentic doesn't mean that the Taliban aren't lying about a connection. They could be just trying to take responsibility where none exists. Moreover, they're taking credit for a failed attack.
Yeah, that last bit kind of amused me. We pound the hell out of them in Pakistan, and they claim to have failed in a very amateurish attempt to bomb NYC.
I just read some of the posts on your blog, very helpful, thanks!
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Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 7:57:48am |
re: #606 lawhawk
I'll have me some Abby Sciuto and Ziva David any day of the week.
Me too! I love NCIS and NCIS LA! I record them and watch them when RWC is at work.
| 618 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 7:58:07am |
re: #598 Reginald Perrin
I wouldn't worry too much either, there would be hell to pay if they carried out their threat.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Thanks.
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Spider Mensch Mon, May 3, 2010 7:58:22am |
re: #596 lawhawk
The Taliban claim responsibility - and that's a video that was apparently authentic. However, there doesn't appear to be any ties to the Taliban. Just because the Taliban video is authentic doesn't mean that the Taliban aren't lying about a connection. They could be just trying to take responsibility where none exists. Moreover, they're taking credit for a failed attack.
in a back assward way, those douchebags trying to take claim may in a way help catch the actual perp...he might get jealous that someone else is taking credit of his atempted deed...a long shot but possible..some of these psychopaths are very concious of getting the proper credit.
| 620 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 7:58:29am |
re: #615 darthstar
SNL: Bag of Broken Glass. Heh.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 7:59:01am |
re: #609 sattv4u2
Ten pounds of potatoes in a five pound sack.
-Dolly Parton
"It looks like someone took two fine hams and stuffed them down the back of that dress."
-The Lady's Man
| 622 |
What, me worry? Mon, May 3, 2010 7:59:10am |
re: #608 MandyManners
That's a big deal here in Miami as you might guess. Gloria Estafan did a huge Ladies in White protest on 8th Street a few weeks ago.
| 623 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:00:02am |
re: #620 Cannadian Club Akbar
SNL: Bag of Broken Glass. Heh.
heh. Johnny Switchblade...
Irwin Mainway: Okay, Miss, I wanna correct you, alright. The full name of this product, as it appears in stores all over the county, is Johnny Switchblade: Adventure Punk. I mean, nothing goes wrong.. little girls buy 'em, you know, they play games, they make up stories, nobody gets hurt. I mean, so Barbie takes a knife once in a while, or Ken gets cut. You know, there's no harm in that. I mean, as far as I can see, you know?
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:01:55am |
Rather than harm mankind, he said, their (aliens') spaceships have provided us information for triggering today's microchip and IT revolution on our planet.
SNIP
Hawking has recently warned humanity against contacting aliens. "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans,'' the British astrophysicist has said.
SNIP
Taking issue with Hawking on Sunday, the former Canadian defence minister, who himself is an expert on the subject and has been speaking about aliens for years, said aliens have already visited earth and contributed to our technological advancement.
Hellyer told the Canadian Press: "The reality is that they (aliens) have been visiting earth for decades and probably millennia and have contributed considerably to our knowledge.''
SNIP
"I think it is really sad that a scientist of his repute would contribute to what I would consider more misinformation about a vast and very important subject,'' he added.
| 625 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:02:15am |
re: #620 Cannadian Club Akbar
SNL: Bag of Broken Glass. Heh.
"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
Phil Hartman, RIP.
| 626 |
Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:02:39am |
re: #579 Mad Al-Jaffee
Is your daughter single? ;)
Yes, relocated to wine country right after her divorce. Explains she's too busy to get seriously involved. Not gay. A runner. 5'1'' and pretty. Said many men 40+ yrs are still floundering on the sea of life.
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badger1970 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:03:20am |
Good morning all.
Amazing thing this morning. An UT graduate student who's from Haiti came to the school and gave a 30-min presentation on the resent devastation, and the kids actually sat still and quiet.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:03:21am |
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:03:31am |
re: #614 Dark_Falcon
Cobras fang terror scum. I love the smell of Hellfire exhaust in the morning. Smells like victory.
Pakistan's been doing a pretty good job clearing out Waziristan lately. It's Mehsud's home so maybe they'll kill him for good soon.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:05:28am |
re: #615 darthstar
The Onion must have hired a new writer who recalls how their sarc used to be...this story on the new Nerf Biological Weapons toys is pretty good.
Reminds me of that SNL skit about Happy Fun Ball.
| 632 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 8:05:54am |
re: #629 MandyManners
Pakistan's been doing a pretty good job clearing out Waziristan lately. It's Mehsud's home so maybe they'll kill him for good soon.
From your lips to God's ears.
BBIAB
| 633 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:06:04am |
re: #625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
Phil Hartman, RIP.
re: #631 MandyManners
Reminds me of that SNL skit about Happy Fun Ball.
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:06:20am |
re: #622 marjoriemoon
That's a big deal here in Miami as you might guess. Gloria Estafan did a huge Ladies in White protest on 8th Street a few weeks ago.
[Video]
Yep. I posted a few links about it.
| 635 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:06:52am |
re: #628 Cannadian Club Akbar
Does that dude have Kucinich and George Norry on speed dial?
The final sentence cracks me up.
| 636 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:07:40am |
re: #632 Dark_Falcon
From your lips to God's ears.
BBIAB
From Pakistan's choppers to Mehsud's heart.
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darthstar Mon, May 3, 2010 8:07:44am |
re: #633 Cannadian Club Akbar
I stopped watching SNL around the time Eddie Murphy left.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 8:08:26am |
re: #637 darthstar
I stopped watching SNL around the time Eddie Murphy left.
I usually tape it and watch it on Sunday. And I usually end up fast forwarding through about half of the show every time.
| 640 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, May 3, 2010 8:08:31am |
re: #624 MandyManners
How the fuck can you be "an expert on the subject," and make those statements, considering the subject doesn't have ONE SINGLE SHRED OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to back up it's "science?"
| 641 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 3, 2010 8:08:59am |
This is interesting.....
Queens Islamic group denies involvement in Times Square bomb plot
An Islamic group based in New York's Queens area has denied involvement in the Times Square bomb plot, as it had warned the creators of "South Park" of retaliation for making fun of the Prophet Muhammed.
...
Younus Abdullah Muhammed, who runs the Web site RevolutionMuslim.com, said he was in Times Square at the time the car bomb was discovered, but he insisted he was not involved in the botched bombing."What do you think, I commanded somebody to blow up a building in the middle of Times Square?" Muhammed said.
| 642 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:09:08am |
re: #640 Walter L. Newton
How the fuck can you be "an expert on the subject," and make those statements, considering the subject doesn't have ONE SINGLE SHRED OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to back up it's "science?"
that's why it's so damn funny...
| 643 |
darthstar Mon, May 3, 2010 8:09:15am |
re: #639 Mad Al-Jaffee
I usually tape it and watch it on Sunday. And I usually end up fast forwarding through about half of the show every time.
I'll watch their opening skit...usually online, but that's about it.
| 645 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:09:49am |
re: #637 darthstar
I stopped watching SNL around the time Eddie Murphy left.
You mean ,, it's still ON !?!?!
//
| 646 |
pingjockey Mon, May 3, 2010 8:11:01am |
went away for 40 minutes and there is 161 comments. Sheesh.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:11:24am |
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
| 649 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:11:30am |
For those of you who haven't seen it? The "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking" is a breathtaking show.
Animation is amazing, knowledge is broadening, and he does have a way of making the unfathomable; well, fathomable.
| 650 |
A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 8:11:43am |
re: #639 Mad Al-Jaffee
I usually tape it and watch it on Sunday. And I usually end up fast forwarding through about half of the show every time.
Yea..It stopped being funny years ago.. I watched the Peyton Manning show..It wasn't very funny either.. Sorry Peyton
| 651 |
Cato the Elder Mon, May 3, 2010 8:11:55am |
re: #311 lawhawk
Well, you'd think that birds and wildlife would understand not to fly into buildings, but they do - by the boatload. The Empire State Building turns off its main tower lights after midnight or so because migratory birds tend to get attracted to it and fly into the building - resulting in bird kill.
Rinse and repeat for the hundreds of skyscrapers that don't turn off the lights, and you've got a far greater threat to birds.
Which is all the more reason to pursue nuclear technologies - less negative impact on the environment.
Yes, and birds fly into plate-glass windows on regular houses all the time.
Bottom line: As long as humans exist and do shit like build stuff, other creatures are going to die. Not to mention all the meat we eat.
Yuppies crying over dead birds from wind turbines represent the sentimental foolishness of man par excellence.
| 652 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:12:02am |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
For those of you who haven't seen it? The "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking" is a breathtaking show.
Animation is amazing, knowledge is broadening, and he does have a way of making the unfathomable; well, fathomable.
I watched it thanks to you. So, thanks.
| 654 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 8:12:49am |
re: #650 HoosierHoops
Yea..It stopped being funny years ago.. I watched the Peyton Manning show..It wasn't very funny either.. Sorry Peyton
It's very hit or miss, but it can still be very funny at times. I thought Manning was hilarious when he hosted.
| 655 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:12:59am |
| 656 |
A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 8:12:59am |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
For those of you who haven't seen it? The "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking" is a breathtaking show.
Animation is amazing, knowledge is broadening, and he does have a way of making the unfathomable; well, fathomable.
Seen it..awesome...Hey Veggie, Have you seen Crazy heart yet?
| 657 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:12:59am |
| 658 |
Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:13:25am |
re: #603 HoosierHoops
Awesome! Try to make it to the French Laundry...She'll laugh at you...I think it takes about a month or two to make the list...I like Mustards..
French Laundry? Mustards? I'm not familiar with either. I've visited during mustard season. We've done the barrel tasting tour. Picnic'd with a couple wine clubs. Are they restaurants? So many really great Italian place to eat.
| 659 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, May 3, 2010 8:13:29am |
re: #642 Aceofwhat?
that's why it's so damn funny...
re: #644 Dragon_Lady
Yeah, I don't get it either.
I've tooted this horn before, but back in the late 60's through the 70's I was an armchair expert on the UFO phenomena, had over 1000 books and magazines on the subject (and related Fortean arcana), even had a monthly radio show on a Dallas 50,000 watt station in the 70's... let me tell you, this is coming from someone who was really wrapped up in this subject... I was a skeptic all along, and said so, month after month... I could never find on ounce of anything besides anecdotal evidence that there was anything going on.
Could aliens exist? Yes. Have they visited us. We don't know.
| 660 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:13:32am |
| 661 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:14:11am |
Religious people are funny when they're angry - from the LA Times:
Catholic bashers like to refer to priests as ‘men in dresses.’ It’s just another in a growing number of media cheap shots directed at Pope Benedict XVI.
...
Lately Dowd, along with half the other columnists in America, has been speculating about what Pope Benedict XVI knew or didn't know concerning clerical abuse of minors back when he was Josef Ratzinger, acting as archbishop of Munich or as head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. And she and her gang seem to find it hilarious that Catholic priests and bishops often wear cassocks or other long traditional robes, especially on formal religious occasions and when celebrating Mass.
It's odd that no one ever uses the word "dresses" to describe the ankle-length liturgical garments worn by Episcopal priests. Nor are Protestant ministers or Jewish rabbis derided as cross-dressers when they don long robes for religious services. Has anyone ever called the Dalai Lama "a man in a dress"? Or Genghis Khan? Not unless you wanted to see your ribcage sliced into salami by a scimitar.
| 662 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:14:21am |
re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
For those of you who haven't seen it? The "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking" is a breathtaking show.
Animation is amazing, knowledge is broadening, and he does have a way of making the unfathomable; well, fathomable.
Wouldn't miss it, he's one of the smartest human beings our race has ever spawned. It's a great thing their doing some shows while he's still with us, such a tragedy that he's so handicapped. It'll be a huge loss when he leaves us.
| 663 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 8:14:59am |
re: #656 HoosierHoops
Seen it..awesome...Hey Veggie, Have you seen Crazy heart yet?
I saw the movie and I read the book it was based on.
| 664 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:15:30am |
re: #659 Walter L. Newton
Could aliens exist? Yes. Have they visited us. We don't know.
Au contraire!
Proof positive
| 665 |
darthstar Mon, May 3, 2010 8:15:51am |
re: #651 Cato the Elder
Yes, and birds fly into plate-glass windows on regular houses all the time.
Bottom line: As long as humans exist and do shit like build stuff, other creatures are going to die. Not to mention all the meat we eat.
Yuppies crying over dead birds from wind turbines represent the sentimental foolishness of man par excellence.
Diarist Jeff Lieber takes on George Will on dKos this morning...pretty good rant...you should give it a read.
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
| 666 |
A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 8:15:53am |
re: #658 Semper Fi
French Laundry? Mustards? I'm not familiar with either. I've visited during mustard season. We've done the barrel tasting tour. Picnic'd with a couple wine clubs. Are they restaurants? So many really great Italian place to eat.
Mustards is up in St. Helena..Good food.
[Link: www.mustardsgrill.com...]
| 668 |
Wozza Matter? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:16:57am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:17:27am |
| 671 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:17:28am |
re: #659 Walter L. Newton
It would be awfully arrogant for the human race to think that we're the only sentient life in the universe, but to build a ship that can visit other planet would take extraordinary intelligence and somehow I have my doubts. I like to keep my mind open though.
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Wozza Matter? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:17:55am |
srsly kids, just gotta go bake some cookies now the crickets stopped for rain.
was gonna hang around but............ yeah. kitchen beckons.
| 673 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:18:29am |
re: #664 sattv4u2
He must be an absolutely brilliant politician.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:18:46am |
re: #672 wozzablog
srsly kids, just gotta go bake some cookies now the crickets stopped for rain.
was gonna hang around but... yeah. kitchen beckons.
I'm sure that means something to someone somewhere!
| 675 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:19:30am |
re: #667 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Reminds me so much of John Prine.
| 676 |
A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 8:19:30am |
re: #663 Mad Al-Jaffee
I saw the movie and I read the book it was based on.
I loved the movie..except for the ending..I panned the ending Saturday here.
| 677 |
reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 8:19:46am |
re: #651 Cato the Elder
Yes, and birds fly into plate-glass windows on regular houses all the time.
Bottom line: As long as humans exist and do shit like build stuff, other creatures are going to die. Not to mention all the meat we eat.
Yuppies crying over dead birds from wind turbines represent the sentimental foolishness of man par excellence.
www.offwell.free-online.co.uk...]>A small bird's lifespan is only about a year or so anyhow
| 678 |
Wozza Matter? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:19:50am |
re: #674 sattv4u2
am watching the cricket world cup - play has been stopped, i can now dissapear to the kitchen.....................
:-p
| 679 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:19:50am |
re: #676 HoosierHoops
I loved the movie..except for the ending..I panned the ending Saturday here.
SHHHHH!
| 680 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 8:20:06am |
re: #676 HoosierHoops
I loved the movie..except for the ending..I panned the ending Saturday here.
Read the book. It has a very different ending.
| 681 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:20:15am |
re: #673 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He must be an absolutely brilliant politician.
I carry that picture with me. If someone says i'm not too good looking, I just whip that bad boy out!
| 682 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:20:39am |
re: #670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think the ALS laser focused his mind.
He was brilliant to begin with, tho.
Yeah, your probably right, being trapped in his body would do that. I can't begin to imagine how that would affect me. I've lost several friends over the years to ALS and its such a horrible disease.
| 683 |
Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:21:10am |
re: #666 HoosierHoops
Mustards is up in St. Helena..Good food.
[Link: www.mustardsgrill.com...]
Thanks. I'm now on their list.
| 684 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:21:45am |
Bill Maher on Muslim extremists:
[Link: videos.mediaite.com...]
b-but liberals never criticise Muslim extremists!///
| 685 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:22:45am |
| 686 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:23:21am |
re: #684 Jimmah
My boss (liberal) raved about that show.
| 687 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:23:41am |
Socialists,, in the USA!?!?
WHAT socialists!!!?!?
[Link: www.bermanpost.com...]
| 688 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 8:24:49am |
Has anything been posted here about the May Day riot in Santa Cruz?
| 689 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:25:29am |
re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was over snarky. Sorry, Jimmah.
Maher would have never said this while Bush was in the White House, IMO.
| 690 |
Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:25:51am |
re: #671 Dragon_Lady
It would be awfully arrogant for the human race to think that we're the only sentient life in the universe, but to build a ship that can visit other planet would take extraordinary intelligence and somehow I have my doubts. I like to keep my mind open though.
Agreed. That level of intelligence, I think, would cause humans to feel just a little insecure.
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sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:26:33am |
re: #688 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anything been posted here about the May Day riot in Santa Cruz?
There was a May Day Tea Party!!?!?!
//
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MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:27:04am |
re: #640 Walter L. Newton
How the fuck can you be "an expert on the subject," and make those statements, considering the subject doesn't have ONE SINGLE SHRED OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to back up it's "science?"
Beats me!
| 693 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:27:05am |
re: #688 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anything been posted here about the May Day riot in Santa Cruz?
It was terrible. Gave everyone a "problem loading page".
| 694 |
darthstar Mon, May 3, 2010 8:27:19am |
Gulf Oil spill animation, based on aerial surveillance.
[Link: www.nola.com...]
| 695 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:27:29am |
I'm watching CBS News and there's a new study out that shows women who drinking 2 cups of coffee a day have a significantly lower risk of developing uterine cancer! That does it, I'm definitely going to have a second cup a day from now on! Gee, I wonder if RWC will be able to handle my on that much caffeine? Well, we shall see, hmmm?
| 696 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:27:48am |
re: #695 Dragon_Lady
Not having a uterus helps too.
| 697 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 8:28:21am |
I just realized something about this thread: The Sentinels were created by a man named Bolivar Trask. He is named for Simon Bolivar, was was born in Venezuela. Simon Bolivar is used as a "model" by Hugo Chavez. Therefore:
CHARLES SUPPORTS CHAVEZ!!1 COMMUNIST OLIGHARY!!!11
/Alex Jones and Glen Beck logic
| 698 |
lawhawk Mon, May 3, 2010 8:28:23am |
re: #671 Dragon_Lady
It would be awfully arrogant for the human race to think that we're the only sentient life in the universe, but to build a ship that can visit other planet would take extraordinary intelligence and somehow I have my doubts. I like to keep my mind open though.
If there are billions and billions of stars, there is probably billions of stars of the right mass with a planet of the right size, inclination, and orbit that would make life possible. To think otherwise is to ignore the possibilities. To think that we're the most advanced life form in the universe ignores the math.
Either that, or G-d has a funny sense of humor to think that a race that spawned Glenn Beck and Stephen Hawking is the most advanced we could find anywhere...
| 699 |
Political Atheist Mon, May 3, 2010 8:28:41am |
re: #688 Mad Al-Jaffee
I think NJD had a link I read yesterday.
| 700 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:28:52am |
re: #684 Jimmah
Bill Maher on Muslim extremists:
[Link: videos.mediaite.com...]
b-but liberals never criticise Muslim extremists!///
so the 9-11 hijackers were brave or were not? i'm confused...
| 701 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:28:54am |
re: #696 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not having a uterus helps too.
I just love a smart-alack comment in the morning! ;)
| 702 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:29:16am |
re: #688 Mad Al-Jaffee
Has anything been posted here about the May Day riot in Santa Cruz?
I thought only Conservatives were violent.
| 703 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:29:44am |
re: #700 Aceofwhat?
so the 9-11 hijackers were brave or were not? i'm confused...
yes ,, ummm,, no ,,,ummm,, can I get back to you on that !?!?
| 704 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:29:50am |
re: #698 lawhawk
If there are billions and billions of stars, there is probably billions of stars of the right mass with a planet of the right size, inclination, and orbit that would make life possible. To think otherwise is to ignore the possibilities. To think that we're the most advanced life form in the universe ignores the math.
Either that, or G-d has a funny sense of humor to think that a race that spawned Glenn Beck and Stephen Hawking is the most advanced we could find anywhere...
Beam me up Scotty! There's no intelligent life down here!
| 705 |
badger1970 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:30:16am |
re: #688 Mad Al-Jaffee
A rally starting after 9pm causing destruction at 10:20pm. Why couldn't it be held during the day?
| 706 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 8:30:32am |
re: #689 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was over snarky. Sorry, Jimmah.
Maher would have never said this while Bush was in the White House, IMO.
He did actually, more than once. Maher has a serious problem understanding some of what we need to do to protect ourselves, IMO. But he has never had a problem explaining why liberal people should prefer our way of life to that demanded by Radical Islam.
| 707 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 3, 2010 8:30:44am |
re: #698 lawhawk
Either that, or G-d has a funny sense of humor to think that a race that spawned Glenn Beck and Stephen Hawking is the most advanced we could find anywhere...
re: #698 lawhawk
To think that we're the most advanced life form in the universe ignores the math.
...
Jersey Shore pretty much proves that we're not the most advanced or intelligent life form.
| 708 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:30:56am |
re: #698 lawhawk
One of the things Hawking says about ET's... we probably won't even recognize them as life forms when we do meet them.
| 709 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:31:10am |
re: #686 Cannadian Club Akbar
My boss (liberal) raved about that show.
That was one of Maher's best rants I think. Very funny.
| 710 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 8:31:20am |
re: #705 badger1970
A rally starting after 9pm causing destruction at 10:20pm. Why couldn't it be held during the day?
People had to work?
| 711 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:32:51am |
| 712 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:32:58am |
re: #698 lawhawk
If there are billions and billions of stars, there is probably billions of stars of the right mass with a planet of the right size, inclination, and orbit that would make life possible. To think otherwise is to ignore the possibilities. To think that we're the most advanced life form in the universe ignores the math.
that's the right approach; the discussions about the probabilities of the formation of the key ingredients for life, in addition to what "key ingredients for life" means, is really fascinating.
| 713 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:33:01am |
re: #685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They didn't. They do.
See? Jimmah. That's how it works.
But, you know that.
I'll tell you what I don't know- wtf you are trying to say here.
| 714 |
badger1970 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:33:52am |
| 715 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:34:44am |
re: #713 Jimmah
I'll tell you what I don't know- wtf you are trying to say here.
perhaps "they didn't " (critisize) when Bush was in office fighting them, but "do" now that Obama is
| 716 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:34:59am |
re: #713 Jimmah
yeah... earlier I said I was overly snarky. sorry.
| 717 |
Donna Ballard Mon, May 3, 2010 8:35:14am |
*SIGH* My furry boss (the Holstein colored one) is making demands on my time. Guess I'd better let the furrballs out for a while. *SIGH*
BBL Lizardom, keep laughing everyone!
| 718 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:35:45am |
re: #715 sattv4u2
That was what I meant, but, I spoke in "assholese".
| 719 |
Political Atheist Mon, May 3, 2010 8:36:08am |
re: #698 lawhawk
Even speaking as a sci fi fan-
One possibility separates us all for all time. If the light speed barrier is insurmountable in a practical context.
If they are far away, like another galaxy-They may as well not exist as far as any impact goes. Unprovable. If they were from a billion years ago or hence... Ditto. Hawkins warning was valid, but I doubt he loses sleep over our broadcasts.
| 720 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:36:21am |
re: #708 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
One of the things Hawking says about ET's... we probably won't even recognize them as life forms when we do meet them.
SHAPE-SHIFTING REPTILIAN ALIENS!!!
| 721 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:36:23am |
re: #698 lawhawk
re: #712 Aceofwhat?
that's the right approach; the discussions about the probabilities of the formation of the key ingredients for life, in addition to what "key ingredients for life" means, is really fascinating.
It's basically the approach i've always taken. This entire "life as we know it" is a dodge
IF there is life on other planets of COURSE it wouldn't be "as we know it"
| 722 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:36:50am |
re: #718 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was what I meant, but, I spoke in "assholese".
Thats why I understood it. i'm fluent in that
| 723 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:36:52am |
re: #705 badger1970
A rally starting after 9pm causing destruction at 10:20pm. Why couldn't it be held during the day?
Why do you think?!
| 724 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:37:08am |
| 725 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:37:13am |
re: #713 Jimmah
I'll tell you what I don't know- wtf you are trying to say here.
how about "overbroad statements about conservatives making overbroad statements about liberals make me laugh"?
i added a happy twist there right at the end;)
| 726 |
Slap Mon, May 3, 2010 8:37:20am |
Morning, Lizardia!
The impact of the Gulf spill and its similarity to the Valdez incident sent me to my copy of The Yellow Shark. Cousteau commissioned Zappa to write music for his program on the aftermath of the Valdez spill, and this piece was the result.
I find this piece to be filled with heartbreaking, painful beauty, and one of the most emotional pieces Zappa ever composed -- here performed by one of the most magnificent groups of musicians in the world.
Ensemble Modern - Outrage at Valdez (F Zappa)
Sadly, the power of this piece remains relevant. Prayers and sympathy to all whose livelihoods may be affected by this spill.
| 727 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:38:11am |
| 728 |
badger1970 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:38:22am |
re: #723 MandyManners
I should have added a rhetorical slash. :)
| 729 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:38:39am |
| 730 |
Semper Fi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:40:01am |
Much going on today. Weather is perfect so no excuse there. Have a nice day lizards.
| 731 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:40:22am |
hhmmm,,, whats the odds of me doing something productive today
| 732 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:41:05am |
re: #731 sattv4u2
hhmmm,,, whats the odds of me doing something productive today
Well, you did go get a coffee. Beyond that, zero.
/
| 733 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:41:19am |
re: #728 badger1970
I should have added a rhetorical slash. :)
I was being a smart-ass. (Shhh. Don't tell anyone.)
| 734 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 3, 2010 8:41:24am |
re: #720 MandyManners
SHAPE-SHIFTING REPTILIAN ALIENS!!!
Well, we here at LGF have welcomed one of the aliens as our leader. We have felt awe when we saw Charles assume his true form and bite a troll's head off like Ozzie Osbourne.
| 735 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:41:58am |
re: #729 Cannadian Club Akbar
It's a TV show. Not real.
I've never heard of it. David Icke's the one who told me all about Queen Elizabeth, George Bush and HRC.
| 736 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:42:07am |
re: #700 Aceofwhat?
so the 9-11 hijackers were brave or were not? i'm confused...
Who cares? They were insane.
| 737 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:42:35am |
re: #734 Dark_Falcon
Well, we here at LGF have welcomed one of the aliens as our leader. We have felt awe when we saw Charles assume his true form and bite a troll's head off like Ozzie Osbourne.
But, Charles doesn't shift his shape, does he?
| 738 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:43:01am |
re: #700 Aceofwhat?
so the 9-11 hijackers were brave or were not? i'm confused...
Maher's a fuckwad.
| 739 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:43:30am |
re: #735 MandyManners
I've never heard of it. David Icke's the one who told me all about Queen Elizabeth, George Bush and HRC.
Fringe is sci-fi. I don't really like sci-fi but Fringe is awesome. Shape shifters, alternate universe stuff.
| 740 |
A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 3, 2010 8:43:50am |
re: #737 MandyManners
But, Charles doesn't shift his shape, does he?
Is he an undocumented Alien? Somebody needs to check his papers.
/
| 741 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:43:53am |
re: #716 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
yeah... earlier I said I was overly snarky. sorry.
I wasn't objecting to any snark-snark is good. But we're aiming for coherence here :)
| 742 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:44:15am |
re: #736 Jimmah
Who cares? They were insane.
no worries. i forgot the sarc tag...it was a stupid thing that Maher said but everyone says stupid things.
| 743 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:44:48am |
re: #741 Jimmah
Yeah, that was "not so much" too.
| 744 |
King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, May 3, 2010 8:45:05am |
re: #740 HoosierHoops
Is he an undocumented Alien? Somebody needs to check his papers.
/
He was born in Hawaii right? Kinda like another guy who won't show a certain paper!!
///
| 745 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 8:46:25am |
re: #738 MandyManners
Maher's a fuckwad.
yeah, i think he usually comes off asshatty or just plain spiteful rather than funny, but i'll still laugh if he says something funny. funny is funny...
| 746 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:49:18am |
re: #739 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fringe is sci-fi. I don't really like sci-fi but Fringe is awesome. Shape shifters, alternate universe stuff.
I wonder if they got it from Icke.
| 747 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:49:39am |
re: #740 HoosierHoops
Is he an undocumented Alien? Somebody needs to check his papers.
/
Not that kind of alien!
| 748 |
MandyManners Mon, May 3, 2010 8:50:36am |
re: #745 Aceofwhat?
yeah, i think he usually comes off asshatty or just plain spiteful rather than funny, but i'll still laugh if he says something funny. funny is funny...
Well, I don't watch him. Ever.
| 749 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:51:01am |
re: #715 sattv4u2
perhaps "they didn't " (critisize) when Bush was in office fighting them, but "do" now that Obama is
That's right, Maher, Dawkins, Hitchens, Sam Harris and others never criticised muslim extremism before Jan 20th 2009.///
I hear your world is a fun place for wingnuts to hang out. Just out of interest, what colour is the sky there?
| 750 |
reine.de.tout Mon, May 3, 2010 8:51:17am |
| 751 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:52:15am |
re: #749 Jimmah
That's right, Maher, Dawkins, Hitchens, Sam Harris and others never criticised muslim extremism before Jan 20th 2009.///
I hear your world is a fun place for wingnuts to hang out. Just out of interest, what colour is the sky there?
Thataboy Jimmah
YOU didn't understand what FVB said,,, I interpreted for you,, then you attack ME !!
cool!
| 752 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 3, 2010 8:54:30am |
re: #749 Jimmah
Maher used such rants in a connection with anti Bush rants, from what I remember. Perhaps I am wrong.
Never paid attention to Hitchens or Dawkins (they're just hateful toward people of any faith).
Don't know who Sam Harris is, unless you mean that little guy who won Star Search back in the 80s.
| 753 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 8:58:17am |
re: #751 sattv4u2
Thataboy Jimmah
YOU didn't understand what
FVBFBV said,,, I interpreted for you,, then you attack ME !!cool!
gggrrr!!! pimf
| 754 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:58:46am |
re: #751 sattv4u2
Thataboy Jimmah
YOU didn't understand what FVB said,,, I interpreted for you,, then you attack ME !!
cool!
Nobody understood what FBV said, including FBV. But he did apologise for the overly hasty and incoherent comment, so that's cool.
I assumed that you were voicing your own opinion, and responded appropriately. I assume now that it's not?
See, when you post what you think are other people's thoughts, in this world it is customary to say so ;)
| 755 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 8:59:47am |
| 756 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 9:01:35am |
re: #755 Jimmah
That's a start. Keep going - you'll find more:)
yeah ,, you got me. My point is totally invalid because of typos!
Oh ,, the humanity!
| 757 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 9:02:08am |
re: #754 Jimmah
See, when you post what you think are other people's thoughts, in this world it is customary to say so ;)
it was obvious that he did. poster a says i don't understand poster b, and poster c replies with "perhaps that..."
the "perhaps" makes no sense there, otherwise.
| 758 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 9:03:02am |
re: #757 Aceofwhat?
it was obvious that he did. poster a says i don't understand poster b, and poster c replies with "perhaps that..."
the "perhaps" makes no sense there, otherwise.
but ,,But ,, BUT ,, he "assumed" ,, and I have typos ,, and ,, like ,, EVERYTHING!!
| 759 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 9:04:38am |
re: #752 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Maher used such rants in a connection with anti Bush rants, from what I remember. Perhaps I am wrong.
Never paid attention to Hitchens or Dawkins (they're just hateful toward people of any faith).
Don't know who Sam Harris is, unless you mean that little guy who won Star Search back in the 80s.
A lot of people don't pay much attention to what people are saying, but a great deal to what certain pundits say they are saying. That's how these misconceptions get up and running.
| 760 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 9:06:24am |
re: #756 sattv4u2
yeah ,, you got me. My point is totally invalid because of typos!
Oh ,, the
humanityhilarity!
Fixed.
PS - you had a point?
| 761 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 9:06:46am |
re: #758 sattv4u2
but ,,But ,, BUT ,, he "assumed" ,, and I have typos ,, and ,, like ,, EVERYTHING!!
he's right to say that we need to give some indication when we're attempting to clarify another's comment. i agree with that sentiment.
it's just that you did, in fact, give such an indication.
ah, no big deal. let's find something more fun to debate!
| 762 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 3, 2010 9:07:29am |
re: #760 Jimmah
Fixed.
PS - you had a point?
If I did, you wouldn't understand it, just like you didn't understand the original!
| 763 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 9:09:22am |
Why is Jimmah savaging satttv with coherent replies and jokes?
Let's face it folks, this place has gone to shit because of me. Civility is dead :D
| 764 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 9:09:40am |
re: #759 Jimmah
A lot of people don't pay much attention to what people are saying, but a great deal to what certain pundits say they are saying. That's how these misconceptions get up and running.
The problem with Sam is that he's not half as smart as he thinks he is. It's more of a waste of time than anything else...
| 765 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Mon, May 3, 2010 9:12:25am |
I'm heading upthread befpre this gets any more retarded. I fear it may be,,,catching ;)
| 766 |
Aceofwhat? Mon, May 3, 2010 9:13:44am |
re: #765 Jimmah
I'm heading upthread befpre this gets any more retarded. I fear it may be,,,catching ;)
let's debate about Sam someday when we're bored - could be fun.
| 767 |
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