One of the more ridiculous moments tonight involved Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert, who suddenly jumped out and started yelling about “RADICAL ISLAM!”
It’s easy to mock Louie Gohmert but he isn’t just a clown - he’s a virulent far right anti-gay GOP operative, about as far from a defender of the LGBT community as it’s possible to be.
Cowards every last republican. They shut down cameras, refuse to talk with media, refuse to listen to America.
They’re ignorant assholes and cowards.
“DON’T LET TERRORISTS HAVE A GUN!”
Okay, Gohmert, then why do you want to keep them freely available to terrorists?
If Louis Gohmert is angry either 1) you’re doing something right or 2) he’s confused by a bit of string or a shiny object.
— John Iadarola (@johniadarola) June 23, 2016
‘Fact” Checking Trump’s speech by the Commies over at NPR
Woman on the House floor noting after the mass murder in Orlando, the House Republicans wanted to debate micro-managing Department of Defense meals for mess/chow halls because DOD could not be trusted to manage such a programme.
As a vet, my guess would be to figure out how to feed the troops the least amount without starving them.
I recall when President Carter was in office, we got the largest payrise the entire time I was in the military. When President Reagan took over, he pushed to freeze our salaries saying we needed to lead the effort to reign in inflation. Under Reagan, the number of enlisted military members drawing food stamps multiplied.
Conservatives simply do not care about people, and nothing they have done since Reagan has convinced me otherwise.
Reminder: Gohmert hates LGBT people https://t.co/7CG02WDMu2
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 23, 2016
The only problem with referring to these Republicans as smegma elementals is the dire insult it gives to smegma elementals.
That near-brawl on the House floor would definitely have been much safer if they were all armed.
— David S. Bernstein (@dbernstein) June 23, 2016
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a shoving match before this sit in ends.
This isn’t just about moms. But if you underestimate the depth of feeling on guns by women of all races, well, you are not on Facebook.
— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) June 23, 2016
Free advice: don’t forcibly remove Rep. John Lewis from the floor of the House of Representatives.
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 23, 2016
FUCK IT WE’LL DO IT LIVE! #holdthefloor
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) June 23, 2016
I was hoping maybe one Republican would have the balls to cross the aisle on this.
Guess not.
re: #13 Belafon
I say do it. Anything that will obliterate GOP chances in November.
I would love to know who replied to Gomert:
Rep Gomert (R-TX) just yelled “Radical Islamist Terrorist did this” to which some1yelled “then don’t let them buy guns” #NoBillNoBreak
— James Pappachen (@jpappachen) June 23, 2016
John Conyers: “This has been the most *unusual* moment I’ve ever seen in my five decades here…”
Incidentally, you know how Ryan could end this? Give Dems a vote. Vote the bill down. Worked for McConnell. But Ryan isn’t that smart.
— Jeff Fecke (@jkfecke) June 23, 2016
Love this, Representative John Lewis Is Not To Be Trifled With (the page link actually say “John Lewis is Not Here for Your Shit”):
You should not fuck with Representative John Lewis. You should not even begin to contemplate the process of how you might fuck with Representative John Lewis. He is the admiral of Not Today, Satan. He is the general of Not Fucking Having It.
re: #20 jaunte
I wonder if he’s smart enough to realize that the next time there’s a mass shooting - and sadly, there will be another mass shooting - the Democrats will bring it up again.
You and your buddy @tedcruz can talk it over with some of his supporters https://t.co/JrFv75yOpJ #NoBillNoBreak @replouiegohmert
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 23, 2016
It’s easy to mock Louie Gohmert but he isn’t just a clown - he’s a virulent far right anti-gay GOP operative https://t.co/u8dpYd6z0q
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 23, 2016
MoJo’s @H_Lev is on the scene as the #NoBillNoBreak showdown unfolds, our live updates here: https://t.co/FZtDkwLlI5
— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) June 23, 2016
Go fuck yourself. Please. @MrSrsly
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 23, 2016
Are any Republicans involved in the sit in at the House, or is it just Democrats?
re: #28 Anymouse
Are any Republicans involved in the sit in at the House, or is it just Democrats?
You are not serious, right?
A message for @SpeakerRyan from the citizens outside the @uscapitol. #ShameOnYou #NoBillNoBreak @HouseDemocrats pic.twitter.com/bFe3cJX2Er
— Caitlin S, PhD (@Paleophile) June 23, 2016
The Orlando shooter was a mentally unstable fuck who hated that he was gay, so you can fuck right the fuck off @DickInman
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 23, 2016
More conservaderp:
worth a repeat at a time such as this #NoBillNoBreak pic.twitter.com/pi89XlxeQ7
— Infidel (@HeidiL_RN) 23 June 2016
Republicans apparently unsuccessful in shutting down House wifi in order to halt the Dem’s sit-in Periscope feed being carried on CSPAN.
— Roger Catlin (@rcatlin) June 23, 2016
re: #31 Kragar
Doesn’t explain the Charleston murderer.
re: #26 Charles Johnson
In 2006, an Amish guy walked into a one room school and shot eleven kids over a 20 year grudge: nytimes.com.
Once again, what do they all have in common: men with guns.
re: #32 Anymouse
Heidi is more likely to shoot or get shot by a family member in an accident than she is to ever shoot a rapist. #NoBillNoBreak @HeidiL_RN
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 23, 2016
re: #34 Belafon
Doesn’t explain the Charleston murderer.
In 2006, an Amish guy walked into a one room school and shot eleven kids over a 20 year grudge: nytimes.com.
Once again, what do they all have in common: men with guns.
He was obviously in fear for his life and was just exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.
Freedoms!
re: #33 Charles Johnson
@rcatlin whole building’s gonna be wrapped in a faraday cage after this
— whit skelly (@notChrisL) June 23, 2016
I wish I could find a patron saint to pay me to study the compiler stuff I’m trying to learn. I don’t get to work on it at work, and there aren’t enough hours in the day otherwise.
re: #33 Charles Johnson
Since most LTE signals are in the 700 MHz band, I bet all 4 carriers have microcells in the capital with excellent coverage-and no way in hell would the GOP be able to get the carriers to shut them down or blocking them without bringing down the wrath of the FCC.
Welp, Gohmert said the magic words, I guess it’s time for everyone to pack up and go home.
Just once, I wish someone would whack Gohmert Pyle in the face with a cream pie!
re: #37 Belafon
That’s going to go right over the heads of the majority of Americans.
Which is a sad comment on Americans and a perfectly good example of Trump’s popularity. When you’ve got 50% of the country not believing in evolution, let’s face it, this is a country half full of bull goose idjits.
If last week’s filibuster & tonights sit-in doesn’t motivate us to vote in November then we deserve a GOP Congress. #Enough #NoBillNoBreak
— G (@GilTPolitics) 23 June 2016
re: #39 Eric The Fruit Bat
Since most LTE signals are in the 700 MHz band, I bet all 4 carriers have microcells in the capital with excellent coverage-and no way in hell would the GOP be able to get the carriers to shut them down or blocking them without bringing down the wrath of the FCC.
The ability of the FCC to act against how Congress chooses to run the Capitol is uncertain. Not the least because Congress ultimately must appropriate money for the FCC to function.
It sounds like Pontiac Illinois got hit by a tornado. I see on Zoomradar one of the chasers is at a destroyed Walmart.
Listen to live scanner traffic in #Pontiac, Illinois. Multiple departments assessing tornado damage. #ilwx https://t.co/8UBCppU3HA
— Charlie Whiteman (@C_Whiteman_51) June 23, 2016
re: #45 Single-handed sailor
It sounds like Pontiac Illinois got hit by a tornado. I see on Zoomradar one of the chasers is at a destroyed Walmart.
[Embedded content]
They did. Trailer park got hit, too.
re: #45 Single-handed sailor
It sounds like Pontiac Illinois got hit by a tornado. I see on Zoomradar one of the chasers is at a destroyed Walmart.
[Embedded content]
There were tornado warning in Chicago’s south suburbs, but so far none have touched down.
Oh hai Dark_Falcon! Do the Sit-In Democrats have a moral or ethical leg to stand on?!? AMIRITE?!?
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
The ability of the FCC to act against how Congress chooses to run the Capitol is uncertain. Not the least because Congress ultimately must appropriate money for the FCC to function.
Republicans attempting to strong arm the FCC, to prevent the people from witnessing their representatives’ attempts to act upon a 1st Amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, on the floor of the People’s House. Good luck with that.
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
The ability of the FCC to act against how Congress chooses to run the Capitol is uncertain. Not the least because Congress ultimately must appropriate money for the FCC to function.
And if the GOP were to strongarm the cell carriers to shut down their towers around the Capitol, it would be another nail in the GOP narrative, in this case they care about the free market.
I would expect the four cell carriers to tell the GOP to take a hike. (They are making money on this.)
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
There were tornado warning in Chicago’s south suburbs, but so far none have touched down.
Kurt, you’ve pissed in your own coffee here the last couple of days because of your Twitter posts. Time to figure out who and what you are, and whether you belong here.
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
Cellphone jamming is a criminal act.
re: #38 Belafon
I wish I could find a patron saint to pay me to study the compiler stuff I’m trying to learn. I don’t get to work on it at work, and there aren’t enough hours in the day otherwise.
I hear you. I did that in college 25 years ago, but never got to do compiler stuff. I try to keep a hand in it but…
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
There were tornado warning in Chicago’s south suburbs, but so far none have touched down.
My mother is under the gun in NW Chicago; the National Weather Service advisory for her area (adjacent to Niles) WEATHER HAZARDS EXPECTED:
EXTREME THUNDERSTORM RISK…WITH AN ASSOCIATED:
SIGNIFICANT TORNADO RISK.
SIGNIFICANT HAIL RISK…UP TO 2 INCHES.
EXTREME THUNDERSTORM WIND DAMAGE RISK…70 MPH OR GREATER.
ELEVATED FLOODING RISK.
DISCUSSION:
AN ORGANIZED ROUND OF THUNDERSTORMS WILL REDEVELOP ACROSS
NORTHWEST TO NORTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS BY EARLY THIS EVENING. THESE
STORMS WILL GRADUALLY INCREASE IN COVERAGE AS THEY PROGRESS
QUICKLY SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS. VERY LARGE
HAIL…DAMAGING WINDS…AND EVEN A FEW SIGNIFICANT TORNADOES ARE
POSSIBLE WITH THESE STORMS.includes:
re: #42 austin_blue
When you’ve got 50% of the country not believing in evolution, let’s face it, this is a country half full of bull goose idjits.
Who vote.
To be fair, Gohmert sneaks up on people and screams, “Radical Islam!” all the time. It’s just a thing he does. https://t.co/9bJAcPETvA
— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) June 23, 2016
re: #55 Romantic Heretic
Who vote.
And for some reason have plenty of money. I drove by a couple of megachurches on my way out of Dallas in April, y’know, to see what they looked like.
Ye Gods!
Let us pray that the GOP get the drubbing they deserve in November. Please. How many more must die before the USA gets what it needs so badly: Sensible gun control.
re: #58 GlutenFreeJesus
*pretending Twitter posts don’t exist*
Too late, I’m not even on Twitter and I can post tweets:
Hilariously, it seems the last sit-in in Congress was by the Rs.. for more off-shore oil drilling. lollllll #NoBillNoBreak
— Miss Miss Liss (@MissMissLiss) 23 June 2016
Person on Periscope’s comment stream:
“I own an AR-15. It was a dumb, boring purchase.”
re: #24 Charles Johnson
I prefer the term: parasite.
#NoBillNoBreak
— Jeff Sjolander (@_sirtainly) 23 June 2016
GOP reported to convene in ten minutes. GOP hasn’t done it’s job since Obama.
re: #51 austin_blue
Kurt, you’ve pissed in your own coffee here the last couple of days because of your Twitter posts. Time to figure out who and what you are, and whether you belong here.
I know about today, but what offended you before that?
re: #61 Anymouse
Too late, I’m not even on Twitter and I can post tweets:
[Embedded content]
Republicans are the stereotype of bad governing. Seth McFarlane couldn’t create a better caricature of the ignorant, hapless, fuck everyone asshole that every republican douchebag is. Fuck them all sideways with a chainsaw. Spit.
re: #54 Anymouse
My mother is under the gun in NW Chicago; the National Weather Service advisory for her area (adjacent to Niles) WEATHER HAZARDS EXPECTED:
EXTREME THUNDERSTORM RISK…WITH AN ASSOCIATED:
SIGNIFICANT TORNADO RISK.
SIGNIFICANT HAIL RISK…UP TO 2 INCHES.
EXTREME THUNDERSTORM WIND DAMAGE RISK…70 MPH OR GREATER.
ELEVATED FLOODING RISK.DISCUSSION:
AN ORGANIZED ROUND OF THUNDERSTORMS WILL REDEVELOP ACROSS
NORTHWEST TO NORTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS BY EARLY THIS EVENING. THESE
STORMS WILL GRADUALLY INCREASE IN COVERAGE AS THEY PROGRESS
QUICKLY SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS. VERY LARGE
HAIL…DAMAGING WINDS…AND EVEN A FEW SIGNIFICANT TORNADOES ARE
POSSIBLE WITH THESE STORMS.includes:
Des Plaines is right next to Niles. Yikes.
I am dead serious when I say the GOP is considering forcibly removing those people.
Hello, Lizards. I’m back from my DC trip. What a wild three days, but glad to be back in Ohio. Will be home on Saturday. I haven’t missed a moment of today’s news. I’m watching CNN right now. Good on the Democrats for doing this. I hear Bernie’s doing another “let’s come together” speech, but it’s not a concession. He’s really doing himself a disservice by being so stubborn. Oh well. Hope everyone is well.
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
Des Plaines is right next to Niles. Yikes.
Well, let’s both hope then that the storms will weaken as the night goes on. My mother has no place to go (and lives in a second-story apartment building where flooding around W Devon Ave and Milwaukee Ave cross) occurs in a slight shower.
So @HouseGOP if people not guns kill people wouldn’t a study by the CDC PROBE your argument? Why are you so afraid? #NoBillNoBreak
— karinchu (@karinchu) 23 June 2016
re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg
I am dead serious when I say the GOP is considering forcibly removing those people.
The moment they lay hands on John Lewis, well…I hope it doesn’t go that far.
Republicans now in the House to bring up the Zika bill then immediately adjourn.
Democrats chanting “no bill no break.”
re: #42 austin_blue
That’s going to go right over the heads of the majority of Americans.
Which is a sad comment on Americans and a perfectly good example of Trump’s popularity. When you’ve got 50% of the country not believing in evolution, let’s face it, this is a country half full of bull goose idjits.
My kids all know what it is. They also know how to count to 35 on their fingers (hint: think of your right hand as the ones place and the left aside the sixes place in a base six number system; I recommend turning your left hand palm in to show the difference).
It’s useful to know what a Faraday cage is so you don’t get out of your car if a wire falls on it.
re: #65 Dark_Falcon
I know about today, but what offended you before that?
Like many former LGF posters, you present one face here and a very different face on other media. You just can’t have it both ways. I have defended you in the past because of your youth, but what has been happening over the past few months is just untenable.
re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg
I am dead serious when I say the GOP is considering forcibly removing those people.
Pictures of police dragging John Lewis away? Really? Is their goal to get 0% of the black vote?
re: #72 Jenner7
You need *mountains*. Those damned jagged piles of rocks are amazing, aren’t they?!?
re: #77 teleskiguy
And dry heat. This humidity sucks donkey balls. I hate it.
Damn, I am proud to be a Democrat today, even if I am virtually alone in my county.
I think I will troll our county prosecutor again at the next village board meeting about my private E-mail server.
re: #78 Jenner7
And dry heat. This humidity sucks donkey balls. I hate it.
“It’s a dry heat, so it’s not that bad” is a bigger lie than the cake.
re: #80 KGxvi
“It’s a dry heat, so it’s not that bad” is a bigger lie than the cake.
There is a point where that is true. But 85 and no humidity and 85 plus a ton of humidity …there is definitely a difference there.
re: #62 Anymouse
Person on Periscope’s comment stream:
“I own an AR-15. It was a dumb, boring purchase.”
I have a billet stripped lower, which technically is the part that is the registered firearm according to the ATF. At one point was planning to build it up as a 6.5mm Grendel chambered 800+ yard target / hunting gun. I liked the idea because at long range the Grendel actually retains more energy than a .308 Winchester, but not so keen on the project anymore.
re: #80 KGxvi
112 here today, I’ll take that over 80 on the east coast.
re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)
There is a point where that is true. But 85 and no humidity and 85 plus a ton of humidity …there is definitely a difference there.
Or 95 with a bunch of humidity. It’s almost midnight here, and the air is absolutely oppressive out. Thank God for air conditioning!
re: #76 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)
Pictures of police dragging John Lewis away? Really? Is their goal to get 0% of the black vote?
I really don’t think that Paul “Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver” Ryan really gives a shit about the optics of that, TBH.
re: #84 retired cynic
Or 95 with a bunch of humidity. It’s almost midnight here, and the air is absolutely oppressive out. Thank God for air conditioning!
I don’t miss humidity at all.
I do miss thunderstorms, but not the humidity.
re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)
There is a point where that is true. But 85 and no humidity and 85 plus a ton of humidity …there is definitely a difference there.
One is oppressive and does not permit sweat to cool you, the other dries you out like a piece of parchment.
62 degrees here now. Hot but windy tomorrow (93 degrees).
re: #80 KGxvi
“It’s a dry heat, so it’s not that bad” is a bigger lie than the cake.
Yeah, you say that, but 97 degrees with 80% humidity is a whole ‘nother thing from 97 degrees with 20% humidity.
re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, you say that, but 97 degrees with 80% humidity is a whole ‘nother thing from 97 degrees with 20% humidity.
Been in both, much prefer the 20% humidity.
re: #80 KGxvi
“It’s a dry heat, so it’s not that bad” is a bigger lie than the cake.
I’d rather be hanging out in 95° weather with a dew point of 30° than 90° weather with a dew point of 87°.
re: #82 goddamnedfrank
I have a billet stripped lower, which technically is the part that is the registered firearm according to the ATF. At one point was planning to build it up as a 6.5mm Grendel chambered 800+ yard target / hunting gun. I liked the idea because at long range the Grendel actually retains more energy than a .308 Winchester, but so keen on the project anymore.
I am not so much a gearhead with guns. I own a plain jane shotgun, only holds one round.
The other thing about humidity? It doesn’t let the air cool off overnight. Sure, it’s less likely to reach Ridiculous Heat, but it’ll still be 85 degrees at midnight. Blech.
Hey, so I hear Donald Trump made a big speech today. Whatever happened to that story?
/////
re: #75 austin_blue
Like many former LGF posters, you present one face here and a very different face on other media. You just can’t have it both ways. I have defended you in the past because of your youth, but what has been happening over the past few months is just untenable.
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White
Hey, so I hear Donald Trump made a big speech today. Whatever happened to that story?
/////
Every big right-wing syndicated talk show host thought it was amazing, a lot of very big points to be made, believe me.
re: #85 TedStriker
I really don’t think that Paul “Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver” Ryan really gives a shit about the optics of that, TBH.
Which is why Ryan is a moron.
Losing the rest of the black vote may be negligible for them, but this is gonna affect a solid 45% of the white vote.
International press covering the Democratic sit-in at the House:
Deutche Welle: House Democrats Stage Sit-In for Gun Control
BBC: Democrats Hold Sit-In Protest to Force Gun Control Vote
re: #96 teleskiguy
Every big right-wing syndicated talk show host thought it was amazing, a lot of very big points to be made, believe me.
So it was a bigly speech?
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
No, this is an attempt by Democrats to get the Congress to do the work of the people, to pass legislation that has the report of a majority of REPUBLICANS, a majority of GUN OWNERS.
re: #85 TedStriker
I really don’t think that Paul “Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver” Ryan really gives a shit about the optics of that, TBH.
I’ve been under the impression for awhile now that Ryan doesn’t really give a shit about anything. I’m also pretty sure that there was something (money, gifts, promises, etc) involved in his reversal on whether or not to accept the Speakership.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
Political points MY ASS.
49 people dead. More sure to come.
Shove those political points where the sun don’t shine. THen get up off your ass and DO SOMETHING. Because your whining of politics over lives infuriates ME.
re: #85 TedStriker
I really don’t think that Paul “Zombie- Eyed Granny Starver” Ryan really gives a shit about the optics of that, TBH.
If he didn’t care about optics, he would not have criticized Donald Trump on a number of matters.
No one is going to lay a hand on Congressman Lewis. On that I am certain.
re: #85 TedStriker
I really don’t think that Paul “Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver” Ryan really gives a shit about the optics of that, TBH.
Then he forgot what it says on his office door.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
And that your political price conveniently happens to include harming your fellow Americans who tend to vote for the (D) party is something we should just overlook?
Given the number of times you’ve waved off shitty behavior by Republicans with “it’s just politics,” this is more than slightly hypocritical. Not surprising, though.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
Well, I was sure outraged when House and Senate Republicans tried, how many times now? 60? to overturn Obamacare. I was livid when Ted Cruz did his ‘government shut-down’ and read ‘Green Eggs and Ham’ on the Senate floor. I’ve spent a lot of my time over the last few decades really furious with the national Republican party, and now with what Governor Rauner is doing to Illinois…. (I know you don’t agree, but I’m just sharing my opinion, as you have.)
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
Nothing unconstitutional about it, and your urging Republicans to take it out on social program spending is utterly despicable.
You’re in favor of letting terrorists have guns because for you guns and gun rights remain some kind of weird abstract fetish, utterly detached from all attendant harsh realities.
At this point I feel safe saying that almost everyone here is holding back enormously when it comes to telling you what they really think. Look down, you’re standing on incredibly thin ice and the cracks are spreading.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
What’s unconstitutional about it? The GOP supports the No-Fly list; if the list is unconstitutional (and I do have severe reservations about a secret list you don’t know you are on, it reminds me of Joe McCarthy), the solution is either get rid of the list or fix the list.
The GOP wants the list to “prevent terrorists from getting on aeroplanes.” Why would the GOP want terrorists to be able to get guns?
The latest wingnut theory making the rounds of the Internet is gun smuggling would proceed north from Mexico (despite all the gun smuggling actually going in the other direction from all the gun shops along the border). That reminds me of the Customs official last year if I was smuggling guns into Montana from Saskatchewan. Canada and Mexico are notorious for the amount of guns they illegally smuggle across the USA border. /s
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
…By punishing people who had nothing to do with this.
How the Funk & Wagnels does that make any sort of sense? Please, connect the dots for me.
re: #102 gwangung
Political points MY ASS.
49 people dead. More sure to come.
Shove those political points where the sun don’t shine. THen get up off your ass and DO SOMETHING. Because your whining of politics over lives infuriates ME.
The compromise bill proposed by Senator Collins seems to answer my concerns. Should it pass the Senate, I would recommend the House follow suit.
The Periscope feed from the House went dead. Six minutes later it came back. I wonder whether there was simply a technical problem, or if the GOP figured out a way to interrupt it and the Democrats already were prepared for a workaround.
re: #102 gwangung
Political points MY ASS.
49 people dead. More sure to come.
Shove those political points where th.e sun don’t shine. THen get up off your ass and DO SOMETHING. Because your whining of politics over lives infuriates ME.
Look, Dark had joined his team in accepting the deaths of those people as an acceptable sacrifice to the Gun Industry. For Dark and the rest of his team, guns are a religion - you can see him quoting the Gospel According To LaPierre all the time.
Dark and his team were willing to throw the bodies of the Sandy Hook victims onto the Altar Of The Holy Gun,, so that really tells you everything you need to know about Dark and his team. They don’t really care about people. They care about guns.
re: #107 retired cynic
Who is ‘Harlequinade’?
re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White
Look, Dark had joined his team in accepting the deaths of those people as an acceptable sacrifice to the Gun Industry. For Dark and the rest of his team, guns are a religion - you can see him quoting the Gospel According To LaPierre all the time.
Dark and his team were willing to throw the bodies of the Sandy Hook victims onto the Altar Of The Holy Gun,, so that really tells you everything you need to know about Dark and his team. They don’t really care about people. They care about guns.
And, what’s either more infuriating or more perplexing (or both), Dark doesn’t even own a gun, IIRC.
Besides, if the bill is horribly unconstitutional, what’s the shame in voting no on it? Are they afraid of what Democrats will say? I don’t see why that would be a concern, unless it turns out that the majority of Americans support common sense gun control proposals and they’re not actually representing their constituents…
re: #111 Dark_Falcon
The compromise bill proposed by Senator Collins seems to answer my concerns. Should it pass the Senate, I would recommend the House follow suit.
Senator Collin’s bill was opposed by the NRA.
re: #117 Anymouse
Senator Collin’s bill was opposed by the NRA.
Then there must be something good there. (I heard a bit about it this evening on the news, but not enough to really understand it.)
re: #115 TedStriker
And, what’s either more infuriating or more perplexing (or both), Dark doesn’t even own a gun, IIRC.
And this liberal does. How does that work? /s
Speaker on the House floor noting this is not a great moment in the House, because the Speaker of the House will not allow Democratic bills to come up for a vote, and noting the Republicans observing are laughing when the names of slain people are brought up in the House.
re: #106 klys (maker of Silmarils)
And that your political price conveniently happens to include harming your fellow Americans who tend to vote for the (D) party is something we should just overlook?
Given the number of times you’ve waved off shitty behavior by Republicans with “it’s just politics,” this is more than slightly hypocritical. Not surprising, though.
I’ve lost count of the number of times that “Republicans doing (insert shitty thing) is good for them because the base wants them to do it” has been uttered here. The number of times that “sane” Republican was allowed to get away with noxious behavior because “that’s what’s expected of him” or words to that effect.
You know what else is infuriating? That there still haven’t even been hearings on Judge Garland’s nomination.
I mean, if we’re going to talk about political games played for political points in Washington that are infuriating.
I’m sure that one is equally infuriating, right?
Louie Gohmert screaming again “Radical Islam killed these people” immediately shouted down with “Why are you protecting terrorists? Why do you want terrorists to be able to buy guns?” “Don’t let terrorists have a gun!”
re: #121 retired cynic
Sorry. I’ve just woken up and apear to still be Captain Obvious.
Why do you ask?
re: #109 Anymouse
What’s unconstitutional about it? The GOP supports the No-Fly list; if the list is unconstitutional (and I do have severe reservations about a secret list you don’t know you are on, it reminds me of Joe McCarthy), the solution is either get rid of the list or fix the list.
The GOP wants the list to “prevent terrorists from getting on aeroplanes.” Why would the GOP want terrorists to be able to get guns?
I’m prepared to exclude those against whom their is clear evidence of terrorist ties from buying a gun. But I can’t support someone’s rights to liberty and property being taken away based on secret evidence. I believe that the government must make a case in court (even a closed court) as to why someone should be so barred.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
This attempt by Democrats to disrupt the Congress, nominally to push for a bill that in its current form is unconstitutional, but really in order to score political points is infuriating to me. I stand by my earlier idea that Republicans need to make Democrats pay a political price for these sorts of actions.
See? It’s exactly that sort of response to an answer to your question that is just untenable.
Welcome to the GAZE club, DF. You are now eligible for the BBQ of hunky buttocks. Pity. But it’s the choice you’ve made.
Adios, Kurt.
Periscope has jumped to over fifty thousand viewers (a few hours ago it was around three thousand).
re: #117 Anymouse
Senator Collin’s bill was opposed by the NRA.
Unfortunate, but the NRA’s opposition does not move me from my support of said legislation,
re: #123 Targetpractice
I’ve lost count of the number of times that “Republicans doing (insert shitty thing) is good for them because the base wants them to do it” has been uttered here. The number of times that “sane” Republican was allowed to get away with noxious behavior because “that’s what’s expected of him” or words to that effect.
There used to be a lot of “death before dishonor” crap as well, but that’s taken a back seat to “if Republicans do it, it’s OK.”
I’m out—I’ve been in a pretty good mood watching Democrats kick some ass, and don’t want to ruin it.
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
I’m prepared to exclude those against whom their is clear evidence of terrorist ties from buying a gun. But I can’t support someone’s rights to liberty and property being taken away based on secret evidence. I believe that the government must make a case in court (even a closed court) as to why someone should be so barred.
But they don’t want that either. The bill proposed by the Texas senator would have required the FBI to prove terrorist intent within three days or a sale must go through. The Republicans have short-staffed the courts for years, and the bill would clog the Federal courts.
In addition, the Due Process argument has been hijacked by the NRA to mean something different than what the Constitution says it is. Due Process means you can seek redress in the courts or receive a proper trial.
The NRA argues the II Amendment is an absolute right without any check. There is no right in the Constitution that has no check on it, other than III (no quartering troops in your home) or XIII (you may not hold slaves).
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
I’m prepared to exclude those against whom their is clear evidence of terrorist ties from buying a gun. But I can’t support someone’s rights to liberty and property being taken away based on secret evidence. I believe that the government must make a case in court (even a closed court) as to why someone should be so barred.
So then you support doing away with the no fly list? Or is the right to conveniently travel freely among the several states not part of someone’s right to liberty?
Also, please explain what you mean by “closed court”? Because if you mean the person whose rights are being denied doesn’t get to present evidence in their defense, then you can go ahead and stop pretending that you care about due process and the rule of law.
re: #129 klys (maker of Silmarils)
My guess would be wondering why the downding on #107 as it seems a relatively innocuous comment. Might be inadvertent, that certainly happens.
Oh! I’m on am edge phone. It would have been a slip. I’m a European socialist who’s horrified his homeland may do something stupid tonight.
Even from here I rage at those things.
(Sorry. I plused to make up for it)
re: #135 harlequinade
Oh! I’m on am edge phone. It would have been a slip. I’m a European socialist who’s horrified his homeland may do something stupid tonight.
Even from here I rage at those things.
(Sorry. I plused to make up for it)
No worries, like I said, it happens. Especially on the phones. But the combo of a less familiar name plus a downding is what prompted the question. :)
All of a sudden, @HouseGOP eager to start new day… At 2:30am. First time showing up to work early? #NoBillNoBreak https://t.co/CQNmQ2TUdV
— Jazmin Ortega (@Jazmin_Ortega) 23 June 2016
re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White
Hey, so I hear Donald Trump made a big speech today. Whatever happened to that story?
/////
Pfawwwwwwww
Fringe benefit of the Democratic beauty we are witnessing.
Well this tickle in the back of the throat doesn’t want to go away. I don’t have time to deal with getting sick, so I’m going to head to bed and see if that helps at all. G’night, all.
re: #126 harlequinade
Because you down dinged me, and I didn’t think I said anything that wrong.
Wife: When are you going to fold the laundry?
Me: Yes, ma’am.
I’ll be back shortly.
re: #135 harlequinade
Oh! I’m on am edge phone. It would have been a slip. I’m a European socialist who’s horrified his homeland may do something stupid tonight.
Even from here I rage at those things.
(Sorry. I plused to make up for it)
We’ll be watching closely the vote today. Either way, condom-head appears to be well and truly fucked.
re: #135 harlequinade
Oh! I’m on am edge phone. It would have been a slip. I’m a European socialist who’s horrified his homeland may do something stupid tonight.
Even from here I rage at those things.
(Sorry. I plused to make up for it)
Thanks!
re: #136 klys (maker of Silmarils)
That’s cool. I’d have asked, too. I need to be active here. It’s my most visited site, but I lurk.
I feel guilty about having to step away now, but dogs are crossing legs.
re: #144 harlequinade
That’s cool. I’d have asked, too. I need to be active here. It’s my most visited site, but I lurk.
I feel guilty about having to step away now, but dogs are crossing legs.
Happy to make your acquaintance. My dog is just back in, so I need to call it for the night.
re: #128 austin_blue
See? It’s exactly that sort of response to an answer to your question that is just untenable.
Welcome to the GAZE club, DF. You are now eligible for the BBQ of hunky buttocks. Pity. But it’s the choice you’ve made.
Adios, Kent.
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
re: #112 Anymouse
The Periscope feed from the House went dead. Six minutes later it came back. I wonder whether there was simply a technical problem, or if the GOP figured out a way to interrupt it and the Democrats already were prepared for a workaround.
That happens on Periscope all the time.
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
I’m prepared to exclude those against whom their is clear evidence of terrorist ties from buying a gun.
Really big of you. Bravo. (S L O W clap)
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
IMO, we have a breakdown of Congress right now. Both houses are non-functional for the most part. It happened when McConnell and all decided they would stake everything on stopping Obama cold, no matter what he wanted. The Garland appointment is the latest symbol.
re: #144 harlequinade
That’s cool. I’d have asked, too. I need to be active here. It’s my most visited site, but I lurk.
I feel guilty about having to step away now, but dogs are crossing legs.
Welcome Hatchling…… Bring beer and coffee for those who don’t imbibe. Also upding with gusto and downding with great caution… Serious stuff here.
Again, welcome.
re: #142 austin_blue
I’ve been saddened by the lack of debate there. I’m one of the “living and working in Europe” and that the vote is close… I want to say it beggars belief, but the rhetoric, the endless stream of anti European news, and the mainstreaming of casual racism has made this inevitable.
I just hope cooler heads prevail.
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine.
What, you mean bills being sent to the floor and being voted up or down might become a daily occurance? In a legislature?! Heaven forefend!
re: #134 KGxvi
So then you support doing away with the no fly list? Or is the right to conveniently travel freely among the several states not part of someone’s right to liberty?
Let’s come back to this one. It’s late and the explanation needed is more than I can muster at 1am.
Also, please explain what you mean by “closed court”? Because if you mean the person whose rights are being denied doesn’t get to present evidence in their defense, then you can go ahead and stop pretending that you care about due process and the rule of law.
Closed would mean the exclusion of the press for certain portions of the hearing dealing with national security matters. It does not, repeat not mean that the accused should not be able to introduce in their own defense. It would not even occur to me to do such a thing.
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
You’ve obviously not been paying attention to congress for the last eight years. It’s broken. Your side fucked it up bad. But that’s ok because it’s your side. Go. Fucking. Team.
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
If being forced to actually do their job with something approaching due diligence is a breakdown, then what the raging fuck have the last seven years of stonewalling Obama been?
I’m sure any answer you have will sadden me further, so I’ll just let you consider that as I turn in.
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
If Republicans in congress weren’t such pricks then the Dem’s wouldn’t have to act this way. The Republicans in Congress have to remember in a way they represent all of the American people not just the people that elect them, There are not just Republicans in their districts or states in the case of a Senator.
.@SpeakerRyan won’t let House vote on gun control because of the GOP’s Hastert “Rule.” Which isn’t a rule & is named after a child molester.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) June 23, 2016
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
Congress, son, is already broken down, when a simple bill requiring universal background checks is not allowed to come to a vote. This is a bill with >80% support of the American people, a strong majority of REPUBLICAN voters, and even a majority of gun owners.
Why is this bill not allowed up for a vote? Because the NRA snapped its fingers, and the GOP did as it was told. Your team, Kurt, tossing the bodies of children on the altar of the gun industry, going against their own party members wishes in doing so.
If that’s not broken, I don’t know what is.
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
I mean, seriously, it’s not like the democrats are demanding that a law be passed, they just want a fucking vote. Why is that something that calls out for punishment? (And no, “voting the way we want to will make us look like assholes” is not a justifiable reason.)
re: #158 goddamnedfrank
[Embedded content]
Perhaps we should change the name to the Pederastert Rule.
re: #158 goddamnedfrank
What a terrible thing to say at this particular time because Hastert began the first day of his 15 month sentence on June 22. Ryan doesn’t know it, but he just made an unwitting public service announcement—-a reminder that the rule he’s using to stop a vote on gun control is named after a convicted felon and child molester. I’ve heard some say that he isn’t too bright when it comes to being Speaker. That he said this confirms that claim for me. He’s proud to invoke the name of someone who has so thoroughly disgraced his party and put the lie to the party’s claim to be “the party of family values.” In my mind, being a pedophile does not belong in the same category as family values.
re: #157 Tigger2
If Republicans in congress weren’t such pricks then the Dem’s wouldn’t have to act this way. The Republicans in Congress have to remember in a way they represent all of the American people not just the people that elect them.
OK, I lied and didn’t leave when I said I would. Just wanted to drop Charles Pierce’s comment here—I think he explains it quite clearly:
But at the heart of these actions is more than a protest against inaction on the issue of guns. It’s a protest against inaction, period, against the repulsive and cowardly vandalism-by-inaction that has been the hallmark of the Congress almost from the second the president’s hand came off the Bible in 2009…
And, again, I am discovering that I am curiously deaf to the bleatings of Republicans about legislative etiquette. Joe Wilson shouted too loudly in 2009. My hearing hasn’t quite recovered yet.
Time for me to sign off for the night. I knew I was going to catch flak here for what I posted on Twitter, and that’s honestly why I put in an appearance. I figured I owned it to you all to let you say what you had to say to my (virtual) face. Tonight’s reaction is in line with my expectations and I’m not mad about it nor do I feel victimized. Because I’m not like those trolls, and I’m man enough to hear what others say, even if I don’t agree.
Good Night.
And Anymouse, if your mother needs help, feel free to ask me. I’ll do what I can to help out.
Tulsi Gabbard has come out against the Gun Bill.
@TulsiGabbard You don’t seem to be concrned when it comes to the rights of Muslim Americans though. Following your BJP masters?
— Richard Wierengo (@The_War_TARDIS) June 23, 2016
She needs to be primaried.
re: #165 Dark_Falcon
Time for me to sign off for the night. I knew I was going to catch flak here for what I posted on Twitter, and that’s honestly why I put in an appearance. I figured I owned it to you all to let you say what you had to say to my (virtual) face. Tonight’s reaction is in line with my expectations and I’m not mad about it nor do I feel victimized. Because I’m not like those trolls, and I’m man enough to hear what others say, even if I don’t agree.
Good Night.
And Anymouse, if your mother needs help, feel free to ask me. I’ll do what I can to help out.
You catch flak because your positions are not consistent with you having any principle beyond your team winning, This is the most revolting aspect of modern conservatism, that winning is the only thing that matters, and that you’ll take the country over the cliff, oppose legislation your own side created, just to win.
At a certain point, one cannot continue to cheer for and work for A Bad Team and still be a Good Person. We mostly deal respectfully with you because your support for the worst sort of people is expressed politely, but again, at some point if you support a vile theocrat like Ted Cruz, you’re no better than he.
re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White
Stolded that.
Did @SpeakerRyan actually deny a gun vote for the Hastert rule? Perhaps we should change the name to the Pederastert Rule. #GOPScumInPrison
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) June 23, 2016
re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White
And, for a party that talks constantly about being pro-life, it’s a disgrace that its politicians care nothing about some of our citizens, over 200 of them kids, dying because of easy access to guns and gun negligence on the part of adults they just happened to have lived with . Hell, I have guns, but I don’t love them. They’re tools I have for the purpose of personal protection since I live alone after my daughter graduated college and moved to another state. I’m the truth against the lie that some republicans push when they claim that all liberals are anti-gun. No, we’re not. We just happen to think that with ownership of guns comes responsibility. More liberals own guns than most republicans know. I have a brother, an army vet, who has a veritable arsenal at his home. He has everything from an AK-47 to a .22, and he knows how to use them. So many lies are told by some GOPers for the sole purpose of quashing any discussion about our gun violence problem in America. As I mentioned previously, one cannot truly be pro-life and support the principal of guns here, guns there, guns everywhere and no restrictions. I mourn every time I read of a kid dying from a gunshot due to some adult’s failure to secure his/her gun. There’s no need for this to happen. None at all. And, the biggest insults to me are those that call these incidents “accidents” and offer useless “prayers for the families.” Offering only prayers after gun deaths is a lazy *ss way of avoiding acknowledging that we have a problem in these United States with gun violence.
re: #170 majii
I don’t know who said it, about ‘moments of silence’, but it’s on point - It’s appropriate to have a moment of symbolically doing nothing before returning to ACTUALLY doing nothing.
re: #166 Ziggy_TARDIS
Here is the woman going against Gabbard in the Primary in Hawaii.
Sorry for the late to the party comment, but this time zone thing makes keeping up with threads here hard.
So, about that “Make America White Again” billboard, someone asked if the family group in the lower right was a stock shot. I used tineye.com to check, and I’m pretty sure it is, but get a load of where it first appeared.
2008:
Israeli government site orianit.edu-negev.gov.il
France — insurance website amcassurances.fr
Argentina — telephone company telefonica.com.ar
Others include China, Spain, Russia, Hungary, Ukraine, Brazil, Germany — and on and on.
So, it’s ironic that Tyler used this particular stock shot, which may well be a family from some other part of the world.
As for the other images, the painting of Washington kneeling in prayer at Valley Forge is based on a legend that Washington kneeled in prayer before the battle. There is some question whether is ever happened as described. ushistory.org
The girl kneeling next to a covered wagon comes from the Latter Day Saints, AFAIK. Image: Screen-shot-2010-07-18-at-7.39.29-AM-229x300.png
And the one at top left is a painting of the Pilgrims landing. It was hard getting all those people to hold still for the shot, considering how tired and malnourished they were from their voyage. There seem to be some Native Americans in the scene, probably the local equivalents of the immigration police.
re: #172 Ziggy_TARDIS
I’m going to write Hodges name down in my special “reminder” book and send her a nice donation. Why in the hell does Tussard thinks she was elected to Congress, if not to solve problems? She can say she doesn’t like the “No Fly” List. It’s her right to, but to say it and sit on her butt, not working on rewriting it, is inexcusable. I taught high school for 33 years and never made anywhere near $174,000 + benefits like she does, but I did my d*mn job every day because that’s just who I am, so yes, she needs to be replaced ASAP. She’s dead weight.
re: #174 majii
She also has a history of supporting Sheldon Adelson, and is the nastiest Anti-Muslim Democrat I have heard of.
I will admit that the actions of her and the BJP have severely coloured my view of Hindus in the past year.
re: #173 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Tyler got some support on Facebook and proceeded to claim that is showed “most Americans” think the way he does. I don’t. If it’s left to people with Tyler’s mindset, I will have to pack my bags, sell my house and possessions, and move to another country. His wife had the billboard removed. Tyler’s mindset reminds me of that of the white supremacist in Phoenix, AZ who told an Hispanic protester at a Trump rally to “fix him a burrito,” and “this is his country.” Dumb f*cker doesn’t know that Mexicans/Latinos/Hispanics were in America before Northern Europeans arrived. To put it one way, the latter are the intruders and squatters, not the former.
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
All they have to do is hold Regular Order as Rep. Ryan said he would hold. Opposing even bringing up Democratic bills unless a majority of Republicans support them is not Regular Order.
All they have to do is hold a vote. Ryan won’t do that because he would be immediately called a RINO from the right. It is the Republicans that have gummed up the works of the Legislature and the Judiciary, not the Democrats.
Since Ronald Reagan was elected, we liberals have been demonised as unpatriotic, un-American, evil, you name it.
Conservatives are so hidebound they cannot simply do the one thing that Regular Order that Mr. Ryan claimed he was interested in: hold a vote.
Someone had a Confederate flag in the House, I guess Sherman is going to have to march on the congress.
Louie Gohmert going on again about “radical Islam” (not even radical Islamic terrorism) immediately shouted down again with “why do you want to let terrorists and criminals buy guns?”
He then pivoted to “Obama is the real terrorist.”
re: #178 Tigger2
Someone had a Confederate flag in the House, I guess Sherman is going to have to march on the congress.
The party of heritage slavery and hate.
re: #177 Anymouse
Why hold a vote when you know you can tell your supporters anything, and they’ll believe it? This is what I think is going on at the most basic level. As you noted, most republicans have been groomed to believe the worst things about everyone who doesn’t agree with them, especially liberals. Jennifer Rubin, the RW Washington Post cheerleader, had the nerve to blame republican voters for Trump being the party’s presidential nominee. Of course, she totally forgot how she has cheered on everything republicans in Congress have done even though she knew they were wrong many times. She put party over country and is now horrified, horrified I tell you that GOP voters chose Trump as the 2016 presidential candidate. You cannot make this stuff us.
Despite his twitterless state, it looks like Jim McDermott made it after all:
Watch Jim McDermott rip Paul Ryan during House sit-in: ‘He’s up in his office crying’
I moved out of his district a few years ago, but his coming retirement will be a sad loss.
re: #181 majii
What is on the floor of the House now is more than a simple argument on whether a particular gun bill should come up for a vote.
Every Republican hypocritical talking point for the last thirty years is being exposed for what it is: empty rhetoric.
Damn, I am proud to be a Democrat. Where was my party in 2010? When GHW Bush was demonising me for being an atheist and unpatriotic when I was in the bloody US Navy on flippin’ recruiting duty and on a carrier?
When Reagan “we don’t bow to terrorists” had my carrier on workups run to Lebanon from the Caribbean to help flee Beirut?
Every event that conservatives have supported they have lost. They have always been on the wrong side of history, and they are now.
The Revolutionary War (conservatives supported the Crown)
The Whiskey Rebellion (conservatives opposed Federal power and George Washington leading the Army)
The Louisiana Purchase
The Civil War (conservatives supported slavery)
The Depression (conservatives opposed the New Deal)
WW2 (America Firsters opposed entering the war against the Nazis, until Japan attacked us)
The Vietnam War (conservatives supported it)
Women’s right to vote (conservatives opposed it)
Civil rights (conservatives supported Jim Crow)
Iraq War (conservatives supported attacking a country that did us no harm)
Iran-Contra (conservative supported violating laws from Congress to give money to right wing death squads by selling weapons to Iran, our enemy at the time)
“Debts don’t matter.” - Dick Cheney
A conservative is a fellow standing athwart history yelling “stop.” - William F Buckley, Jr.
re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White
You catch flak because your positions are not consistent with you having any principle beyond your team winning, This is the most revolting aspect of modern conservatism, that winning is the only thing that matters, and that you’ll take the country over the cliff, oppose legislation your own side created, just to win.
At a certain point, one cannot continue to cheer for and work for A Bad Team and still be a Good Person. We mostly deal respectfully with you because your support for the worst sort of people is expressed politely, but again, at some point if you support a vile theocrat like Ted Cruz, you’re no better than he.
That’s why conservatives love sports. From an early age you are taught to worship your “team” and hate the other team. To treat like heroes the athletes and even let them get away with rape. You also get kids to learn early about hating authority, the refs.
This translates into hate for government and regulation. It’s pretty genius if you think about it. So many small towns who only have religion and sports, and each tell them that you are not a true Christian or American unless you are a Conservative Republican. Conservatives worship the biggest liberal ever born and still think God supports their politics…
re: #184 Shimshon
That’s why conservatives love sports. From an early age you are taught to worship your “team” and hate the other team. To treat like heroes the athletes and even let them get away with rape. You also get kids to learn early about hating authority, the refs. This translates into hate for government and regulation. It’s pretty genius if you think about it. So many small towns who only have religion and sports, and each tell them that you are not a true Christian or American unless you are a Conservative Republican.
It also conditions you to yell “WE WUZ ROBBED!!” every time you lose, too. This is a great insight.
re: #183 Anymouse
You said what I was trying to say beautifully, because it isn’t just voting on the gun bill that is the issue. It’s voting on any bill that might be what a democrat wants. It’s total obstruction, without consequences because most republicans believe whatever Fox News and RW members of Congress and state legislatures tell them.
“No gun never called me Stevie Stupid, or threw crab apples at me! And all my guns love a-snugglin’” pic.twitter.com/vcdWVHrXeZ
— Andy Richter (@AndyRichter) June 23, 2016
re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
It also conditions you to yell “WE WUZ ROBBED!!” every time you lose, too. This is a great insight.
And it must be because the other team cheated their way to victory, which means it’s okay for you to cheat your way to victory next time!
re: #187 teleskiguy
[Embedded content]
@AndyRichter King must need a new dick.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) June 23, 2016
re: #187 teleskiguy
Excuse my language, but ain’t no d*mn liberal/dem ever asked this nutball to give up his guns. I think the purpose of this tweet is to distract from the fact that he showed every American that he is a sexist, racist tool when he filed an amendment to prevent Harriet Tubman from being on the front of the new $20 bill. He’s not slick, but he is a documented liar.
re: #183 Anymouse
What is on the floor of the House now is more than a simple argument on whether a particular gun bill should come up for a vote.
Every Republican hypocritical talking point for the last thirty years is being exposed for what it is: empty rhetoric.
Damn, I am proud to be a Democrat. Where was my party in 2010? When GHW Bush was demonising me for being an atheist and unpatriotic when I was in the bloody US Navy on flippin’ recruiting duty and on a carrier?
When Reagan “we don’t bow to terrorists” had my carrier on workups run to Lebanon from the Caribbean to help flee Beirut?
Every event that conservatives have supported they have lost. They have always been on the wrong side of history, and they are now.
The Revolutionary War (conservatives supported the Crown)
The Whiskey Rebellion (conservatives opposed Federal power and George Washington leading the Army)
The Louisiana Purchase
The Civil War (conservatives supported slavery)
The Depression (conservatives opposed the New Deal)
WW2 (America Firsters opposed entering the war against the Nazis, until Japan attacked us)
The Vietnam War (conservatives supported it)
Women’s right to vote (conservatives opposed it)
Civil rights (conservatives supported Jim Crow)
Iraq War (conservatives supported attacking a country that did us no harm)
Iran-Contra (conservative supported violating laws from Congress to give money to right wing death squads by selling weapons to Iran, our enemy at the time)
“Debts don’t matter.” - Dick CheneyA conservative is a fellow standing athwart history yelling “stop.” - William F Buckley, Jr.
But conservatives are either taught to look at history in terms of the label Democratic or Republican… or if they don’t have an answer like for the New Deal, just listen to right wing think tanks who say the New Deal didn’t do anything positive! My favorite is reading conservatives explain in one thought how government does nothing right but support the greatest military in the world!
re: #187 teleskiguy
Yeah, Steve King (R-Bigot), you want to deport me because my grandparents fled the Nazis to enter the USA illegally. My grandmothers were in the WAC and my paternal grandfather fought in the US Army and died fighting fascism, but you want to deport me.
My father perished in Vietnam, and my mother served during the Vietnam War, but you want to deport me.
I served in the US Navy for seventeen years until I was disabled, and my sister served in the US Army until she was terminated under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, but you want to deport us both.
Representative King, you are a bigot.
this is an interesting book title pic.twitter.com/rS5mev4caR
— realscientists (@realscientists) June 23, 2016
Louie Gohmert (R-Asparagus) going on again against the Democrats claiming “radical Islamic Terrorism - tm” was the cause of the mass murder in Orlando.
I am amazed at the sudden concern that Rep. Gohmert has for the LGBT community. /s
Democrats calling out the Republicans as cowards for not allowing a vote.
re: #190 majii
Excuse my language, but ain’t no d*mn liberal/dem ever asked this nutball to give up his guns. I think the purpose of this tweet is to distract from the fact that he showed every American that he is a sexist, racist tool when he filed an amendment to prevent Harriet Tubman from being on the front of the new $20 bill. He’s not slick, but he is a documented liar.
I would like to ban all guns. I’d also like to ban money. But obviously my dream of living in a Star Trek future is just a dream.
Attention you fucking morons #NoBillNoBreak pic.twitter.com/lXJC7RtTSB
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 23, 2016
Not sure what happened with rumour of the Capital Police massing in the Capitol. Did the GOP decide that bit of unconstitutionality was a bridge too far?
More coservaderp historical revisionism
Hitler took away the Right for these men to arm themselves.
We all know how that worked out.#NoBillNoBreak pic.twitter.com/FKy3wVKx9R— 1776NationWide1 (@1776infowarrior) 23 June 2016
re: #198 Anymouse
I doubt if Ryan and his buddies were worried about the constitutionality of the move because they already crossed that bridge and burned it. I’d say they were worried about optics. For some reason I can’t fathom, the entire GOP seems to have an obsession with optics. Substance? No. Optics? Yes.
re: #199 Anymouse
Because shopkeepers with rifles were going to pose a serious threat to the Waffen SS
re: #199 Anymouse
More coservaderp historical revisionism
[Embedded content]
@1776infowarrior Durp Durp Durp.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) June 23, 2016
@RepMarkWalker is more concerned with less than 3000 suspected terrorists gun rights than American lives. #NoBillNoBreak
— Gary Denton (@EasterLemming) 23 June 2016
The so-called “right to life” movement was able to frame their arguments that they were on the side of “life” (with the unspoken assertion that those who felt otherwise are on the side of “death”).
This time the Democrats are in control of the framing, and it is damning. Conservatives are on the side of terrorists and criminals being able to buy guns. They are framed as a bunch of empty suits in the pocket of the NRA.
The Democrats did a masterful job of this (including the protest crowd of thousands GOP reps had to go through to leave the Capitol). The framing has the GOP caught avoiding the press, trying to suppress freedom of the press, trying to oppose free market capitalism (by suggesting to cell companies they should shut down their towers), by showing their pro-life stance as hypocrisy (they don’t care about the living being gunned down), and by siding with terrorists and criminals against law-abiding citizens.
I love it. They deserve every bit of the thirty plus years they have framed liberals as anti-patriotic or anti-American. If the GOP wants to side with terrorists and criminals, it is they who are anti-American. If they want to shut down freedom of the press, they are anti-American. If they want to oppose businesses operating their services legally, they are anti-American.
re: #201 Kragar
Because shopkeepers with rifles were going to pose a serious threat to the Waffen SS
And the neighbors would just acquiesce to their Jewish brethren and wouldn’t come back with their guns to show das Juden what’s what. It isn’t like there was political violence in the Reich after all.
Remember to lock the bolt back and use plenty of lube. .@SteveKingIA
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) June 23, 2016
My gang is currently recruiting. Applicants must be pretty good with a bo staff and able to type 50 words per minute.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) June 23, 2016
How does @HouseGOP respond to millions of Americans pleading with them to vote on #gunviolence?They take a vacation. #NoBillNoBreak
— Jared Milrad (@JaredMilrad) 23 June 2016
Who *needs* to have a gun *right now*? When I buy stuff from Amazon, I have to wait two whole days for it to show up. #NoBillNoBreak
— K. P. Badertscher (@badkenbad) 23 June 2016
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry you feel that way. But I am certain on this: If Republicans give in to these kind of pressure tactics, they’ll become routine. And that will mean a full-up breakdown of the Congress.
Routine like the 60 GOP votes to overturn ACA? Yes, we cannot accept this kind of time-wasting political grandstanding.
Whew, what an amazing overnight thread. I am proud of the Democrats.
Since I have joined I have watched the D_F stuff mostly from a distance. I scroll over most of what he writes, but read the LGF responses because they are usually insightful and help me argue with Crazy Uncle John at Thanksgiving.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if we had another D_F. Or, several more.
The problem is that there is not really a discussion. D_F deflects and responds with talking points.
re: #211 Ming5000
What is saddest about that is that he is sane and reasonable compared to many of modern major generals er, reactionaries masquerading as conservatives.
re: #211 Ming5000
The problem is that there is not really a discussion. D_F deflects and responds with talking points.
When people try to draw him out on whether he supports Trump as the nominee of his party of choice, he dissembles and says he will vote for neither Trump for Hilary
Which I find a cop-out.
Heck, I will even admit that I voted for Dubya in 200 (something I regretted the moment I did so). but I simply could not bring myself to vote for Gore (mostly because of Tipper the rock lyrics censor and Joe Liebermann, the sanctimonious little twit).
But I would have felt like a hypocrite if I had not voted or voted for a protest candidate like Nader and still taken part in discussing politics.
re: #201 Kragar
Because shopkeepers with rifles were going to pose a serious threat to the Waffen SS
Hey, it worked in Warsaw, right?
////
re: #212 William Lewis
[and Wendell]
The Republicans have always presented themselves as the smarter, more patriotic, and practical party. Their Congress people stand there all suited up and speak bullshit.
For the masses, and I include my pre-2008 self, it is easy to fall prey to the shiny American Flag lapel pin.
But, with the internet and so much information available, and especially if you are focused on politics, to stay so facile, to me, is unforgivable.
re: #201 Kragar
Because shopkeepers with rifles were going to pose a serious threat to the Waffen SS
Those arguments posit a the existence of a government that is out to seize absolute power and to arrest and imprison large segments of its own population in the name of an inhumane ideology.
But that is an article of faith among the 3%ers and Tea Partiers…
Bernie Bros still being awful.
.@JesseBenn what’s amazing is how people co-opt John Lewis’ life history to pretend he has been “taught” revolution by their candidate.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) June 23, 2016
European Union Warlord Jean-Claude Juncker vows to starve English revolution fighters into submission through increased duties on cheeses.
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) June 23, 2016
re: #218 Dave In Austin
European Union Warlord Jean-Claude Juncker vows to starve English revolution fighters into submission through increased duties on cheeses.
And if they leave the EU there will be no more Fucking Hell pale lager
re: #217 goddamnedfrank
As opposed to channeling it into fart-ins?
@realDonaldTrump bringing jobs back to America! 💩💩🖕🏽 pic.twitter.com/klGV0NFgiS
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) June 23, 2016
re: #220 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)
As opposed to channeling it into fart-ins?
LOL! Had to take that one.
Listen up Busters, when John Lewis starts staging fart-ins then I’ll be happy to credit inspiration to your ignorant dumb ass revolution.
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) June 23, 2016
re: #223 goddamnedfrank
Well, that’s terrifying.
Creating jobs: somebody has to stock Wal-Mart shelves and run the cash registers to sell those things…
re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I voted for Ronnie in 1984 because I despised (and still do)
Mondale for gutting NASA. At that point I knew what a ratfucker Raygun was but I just couldn’t make myself vote for the other goat fucker.
re: #223 goddamnedfrank
Terra-Cotta Trumps…..
re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Chia Trumps
The gift you give when you don’t know what to give, and the gift that really no one wants to receive.
Awakened a little over an hour ago by the sound of a tree shattering, wind, rain, a severe thunderstorm warning, a tornado watch, and a flash flood watch.
Looks like a fun weather day ahead.
Caught up now on all the overnight comments and, just in case you didn’t know it:
I love lizards pic.twitter.com/2i8SSKw75S
— Animal Life (@MeetAnimals) June 21, 2016
Son of Sam has said he has found his calling helping other inmates during his recent parole hearing.
David Berkowitz aka “Son of Sam” is one of New York’s most notorious serial killers — yet he told a parole board he views himself as a model inmate and says that he is carrying out his “life’s calling” as a “caregiver” behind bars.
“I’ve really done wonderful,” said Berkowitz appearing before a parole board during his latest and 15th parole hearing, according to the transcript, dated May 17, obtained by The Post.
He has had time to reflect:
In a letter to the parole board that Berkowitz typed on a typewriter from his cell the night before the hearing, he called himself a Christian and detailed how he “helped” inmates and even “counseled” them over the years.
With Dems streaming from floor, Ryan’s office noted “no audio and video recording or transmitting devices are allowed” during recesses.
— John Bresnahan (@BresPolitico) June 23, 2016
I had 3 members say “let’s see them stop me” re this @periscopetv @twitter @KristalHigh @payneNBC https://t.co/wjedl7pKE2
— Lauren Victoria (@LVBurke) June 23, 2016
re: #233 Emptor scriptor Remorse
Son of Sam has said he has found his calling helping other inmates during his recent parole hearing.
He has had time to reflect:
In a letter to the parole board that Berkowitz typed on a typewriter from his cell the night before the hearing, he called himself a Christian and detailed how he “helped” inmates and even “counseled” them over the years.
People can change and reform over time.
Does not necessarily mean that they are fit to be let out of prison, though…
My shocked face:
Donald Rumsfeld Is All In For Trump: It’s ‘Not A Close Call’
re: #236 Timothy Watson
My shocked face:
Donald Rumsfeld Is All In For Trump: It’s ‘Not A Close Call’
The man is still revered in some quarters for reasons that no normal person can explain.
The jury has started deliberations in the Led Zeppelin case.
The eight jurors started deliberating in a Los Angeles courtroom on Wednesday after hearing closing arguments as barbed as any made during the trial’s five days.
Francis Malofiy, who represented the estate of the former Spirit frontman Randy “California” Craig Wolfe, dismissed Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page and Robert Plant as “session musicians” — who played rather than created the iconic intro to “Stairway” after hearing the Wolfe creation “Taurus.”
Wilmore calls out Trump’s scampaign: ‘I’ve never seen anyone turn more sh*t into fool’s gold https://t.co/Ogmh2zMKNU pic.twitter.com/fZgJuG06BQ
— Raw Story (@RawStory) June 23, 2016
re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The man is still revered in some quarters for reasons that no normal person can explain.
It’s also amazing how many Bush administration failures love to go to foreign press to attack Obama and other Democrats.
But the Dixie Chicks were traitors who should have been hanged for condemning Bush overseas.
re: #238 Emptor scriptor Remorse
The jury has started deliberations in the Led Zeppelin case.
This is not just a random case of two songs sounding like each other: there is evidence that Page and Plant were aware of the song and even took an active interest in it.
re: #240 Timothy Watson
It’s also amazing how many Bush administration failures love to go to foreign press to attack Obama and other Democrats.
But the Dixie Chicks were traitors who should have been hanged for condemning Bush overseas.
I have some sympathy for the Dixie Chicks over the death threats they received, but not for the boycott: they chose to offend the very audience that made them wealthy and famous.
Country music in America is about embracing, embodying and promoting a certain set of values, and President Bush was part of that set of sacred images. Belittle them at your own peril.
But the Dixie Chicks somehow thought they were Neil Young, who made his career and reputation playing to an entirely different audience.
The #NoBillNoBreak sit-in continues. Watch it live here: https://t.co/D0mcjGQbYH Full story: https://t.co/oUaFTCbwXJ pic.twitter.com/6O3xrBpcsm
— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 23, 2016
Unconfirmed sources suggest GOP planning to stage their own sit in at the NRA offices.
Donald Trump gets lost beneath “an avalanche of falsehoods”: https://t.co/kckeEuoqq6 pic.twitter.com/7lVDHQ024w
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 23, 2016
re: #238 Emptor scriptor Remorse
The jury has started deliberations in the Led Zeppelin case.
They have ripped off a whole lot of people over the years, but this time? No, I don’t think so. This is just an estate getting greedy.
Edit: An interesting take on the issue…
guitarplayer.com
re: #246 William Lewis
They have ripped off a whole lot of people over the years, but this time? No, I don’t think so. This is just an estate getting greedy.
It’s a win-win for the estate: who the hell had heard of that Spirit song before this lawsuit? Now it has had millions of people listening to the intro, at least.
re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It’s a win-win for the estate: who the hell had heard of that Spirit song before this lawsuit? Now it has had millions of people listening to the intro, at least.
Yep. But listen to this, from 1659, starting at 0:32 in…
Last night’s developments offered a striking reminder: It’s been a rough year for the “both parties are basically the same” crowd.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen) June 23, 2016
re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth
Last night’s developments offered a striking reminder: It’s been a rough year for the “both parties are basically the same” crowd.
When it comes to dealing with Wall Street and the financial industry running America into the ground, then there is a lot of overlap. But it ends there.
6:54 am: police officer says they will be conducting a daily security sweep. “I’d ask that you clear the floor while that happens.”
— Betsy Klein (@betsy_klein) June 23, 2016
.@NancyPelosi responds: “That’s not going to happen.” https://t.co/tJKUD7ZLkA
— Betsy Klein (@betsy_klein) June 23, 2016
re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth
[Embedded content]
Capitol Police are about to have a bad day no matter what.
re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth
[Embedded content]
Pfft. Doesn’t stop them. Try listening to a bunch of pro-gun anti-wall street bernie bro lefties lecture on how Hillary is more dangerous than Trump…
<BANG HEAD>
Got into DC late last night(actually staying in Alexandria VA, but right on the beltway). Phone was blowing up about the actions of the House Dems, and one of my heroes; John Lewis.
Got the family in tow, and about the head into the city. Raining now, but the plans are to hit the Smithsonian, and maybe the Capitol.
Just missed Jenner apparently.
re: #254 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Got into DC late last night(actually staying in Alexandria VA, but right on the beltway). Phone was blowing up about the actions of the House Dems, and one of my heroes; John Lewis.
Got the family in tow, and about the head into the city. Raining now, but the plans are to hit the Smithsonian, and maybe the Capitol.
Just missed Jenner apparently.
Air and Space? That one and National Gallery of Art are my favorite memories of my one time out there.
re: #255 William Lewis
Air and Space? That one and National Gallery of Art are my favorite memories of my one time out there.
Air and Space is first, then who knows? Here till Sunday morning, so have some time. Pics coming soon.
re: #256 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Air and Space is first, then who knows? Here till Sunday morning, so have some time. Pics coming soon.
Do you plan on making it out to the annex at Dulles Airport?
re: #256 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Air and Space is first, then who knows? Here till Sunday morning, so have some time. Pics coming soon.
If you have the time, don’t forget the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center out at the Dulles Airport.
BREAKING: China state media say 51 killed in tornado in eastern province of Jiangsu, large numbers of buildings destroyed.
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 23, 2016
re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg
Unconfirmed sources suggest GOP planning to stage their own sit in at the NRA offices.
they want more money?
/
Stolen from elsewhere, but too good not to share…
re: #152 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)
What, you mean bills being sent to the floor and being voted up or down might become a daily occurance? In a legislature?! Heaven forefend!
Just got caught up on the overnight, this was well done.
And for fucks sake DF: bills are introduced as legislation, they are debated, they are amended and the are voted on. At least that is how I was taught by school house rock.
If there is something in the bill as written that is unconstitutional, then amend, or vote against it. But don’t sit on your lazy ass and do nothing. NOTHING is no longer acceptable.
Doing something is the absolute least they can do.
re: #238 Emptor scriptor Remorse
The jury has started deliberations in the Led Zeppelin case.
This is Spirit’s best known song:
re: #265 Franklin
Just got caught up on the overnight, this was well done.
And for fucks sake DF: bills are introduced as legislation, they are debated, they are amended and the are voted on. At least that is how I was taught by school house rock.
If there is something in the bill as written that is unconstitutional, then amend, or vote against it. But don’t sit on your lazy ass and do nothing. NOTHING is no longer acceptable.
Doing something is the absolute least they can do.
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
So…any rumblings on this B I G story that MotherJones is going to run today? Any rumors? I am going to be in meetings for a good part of today.
re: #265 Franklin
Just got caught up on the overnight, this was well done.
And for fucks sake DF: bills are introduced as legislation, they are debated, they are amended and the are voted on. At least that is how I was taught by school house rock.
If there is something in the bill as written that is unconstitutional, then amend, or vote against it. But don’t sit on your lazy ass and do nothing. NOTHING is no longer acceptable.
Doing something is the absolute least they can do.
Especially by a party that has had no trouble voting 60 times to repeal ACA with no chance of passing.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
Oh?
re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Especially by a party that has had no trouble voting 60 times to repeal ACA with no chance of passing.
re: #270 Franklin
Oh?
Yeah but taking away health insurance from millions of people is god’s work so it’s ok to bring up a not-going-to-happen vote 60 times.
IT’S GOD’S WORK, I SAY!
re: #196 Shimshon
I would like to ban all guns. I’d also like to ban money. But obviously my dream of living in a Star Trek future is just a dream.
When phasers are outlawed, only outlaws will have phasers.
re: #271 Donkey With No Name
I’d have said
My fave is still the whole album Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus and this song from it is my fave:
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
Then, pray tell, why do they waste so much time on votes to do away with RomneyCare? Sorry, dude, but that’s a “fail” explanation given these gentlemen’s previous behaviors.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
Also, are you ignoring the fact that the House R’s sat-in in order to demand approval for offshore drilling?
Back then, House Republicans staged a sit-in as Congress was about to go on a month-long August break. They wanted Democrats, who were then in the majority, to allow a vote to expand oil and gas drilling to help alleviate $4-a-gallon prices.
No $4 gallon of gas ever went on a shooting spree, or killed their wife/girlfriend while on a restraining order, or bought a gun from a gun show while mentally unstable and committed suicide.
To compare these two protests would be asinine.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
Yes, they’re so busy they are going to be in session for 111 whole days:
politico.com
I am sure everyone making minimum wage would love to make $174,000 for working two days a week on average.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session
and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
Edited.
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
Edited.
This is nothing the Democrats have undertaken lightly: it took a series of mass murders followed by complete inaction on the part of the GOP to bring them to it.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
The important legislation they were to consider was overturning a Department of Labor rule that required financial advisers to act in the best interests of their clients.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
Again, not the first person to point this out, but the House has taken more than 50 #@$#$ votes to repeal the ACA.
At this point you are embarrassing yourself.
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
Edited.
The edit makes no sense. To say they can’t bring these bills up for debate/vote because their time is limited is to say that universal background checks is something the constituencies these reps serve don’t want.
I get that you don’t agree with the No Fly, No Buy, but lets not conflate these two issues/bills. Do you think that internet sales and gun show sales should be done without back ground checks?
re: #278 Dark_Falcon
Edited.
*cough* BULLSHIT *cough*
You’re trying to have it both ways. It’s still GO.FUCKING.TEAM.
BABY WHIPLASH STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY
Of course it is early, THERE WILL BE MOAR STUPIDS
These guys will just STAND HERE until you pass an enabling act of some sort to curb all this violence. pic.twitter.com/eQmzt0qhpe
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) June 23, 2016
re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth
Awakened a little over an hour ago by the sound of a tree shattering, wind, rain, a severe thunderstorm warning, a tornado watch, and a flash flood watch.
Looks like a fun weather day ahead.Caught up now on all the overnight comments and, just in case you didn’t know it:
[Embedded content]
That happened around 3:30/4:00 am in Columbus. Again my section of town got some rain, but it appears the north east and east areas got hammered. Saw some images of streets totally flooded, some sink holes forming from washed out roads/streets, some wind damage, etc. Delaware county north of Columbus (Franklin County) appears to have the biggest problems. Lots of flash flooding, high creeks and rivers.
re: #280 Weaselone
The important they were to consider was overturning a Department of Labor rule that required financial advisers to act in the best interests of their clients.
That rule is a separate discussion, needing a level of detail I can’t give in the time I have before I must leave for work.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them.
These are children whining or dogs begging for food. This situation is entirely different.
Will the GOP be rewarded for voting on ACA repeal 50 times?
re: #284 The Vicious Babushka
BABY WHIPLASH STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY
Of course it is early, THERE WILL BE MOAR STUPIDS[Embedded content]
I hated Ben Shapiro before this. Jews using Nazis to make a stupid political point is beyond stupid.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session
and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
Already asked but if this is such a waste of time, then what on earth were the multiple ACA repeals? I’ll tell you why I think you’re pissed by this tactic. You don’t like your party being exposed for caring more what the NRA wants than what the majority of the American people including the majority of American gun owners want to be done. That’s what this is.
re: #284 The Vicious Babushka
BABY WHIPLASH STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY
Of course it is early, THERE WILL BE MOAR STUPIDS[Embedded content]
Yeah comparing John Lewis to the SA, classy Ben, fucking classy.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
Definition of “tone deaf” right here folks.
re: #289 HappyWarrior
Already asked but if this is such a waste of time, then what on earth were the multiple ACA repeals? I’ll tell you why I think you’re pissed by this tactic. You don’t like your party being exposed for caring more what the NRA wants than what the majority of the American people including the majority of American gun owners want to be done. That’s what this is.
If you support the Republican party, then you learn to shut up and do what the NRA tells you to do.
re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If you support the Republican party, then you learn to shut up and do what the NRA tells you to do.
Pretty much.
re: #290 HappyWarrior
Yeah comparing John Lewis to the SA, classy Ben, fucking classy.
Limiting access to firearms to help prevent mass shootings = Enabling Act
This logic only applies if you assume that the government is out to usurp power and imprison a large share of its citizens.
But, of course, that is an article of RNWJ faith.
Trump still doesn’t get the quotey thing…
Thank you to Donald Rumsfeld for the endorsement. Very much appreciated. Clinton’s conduct has been “disqualifying.”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 23, 2016
re: #290 HappyWarrior
Yeah comparing John Lewis to the SA, classy Ben, fucking classy.
He’s a loser. When all you have is outlandish comparisons and exaggerations it’s because your ideas are shit. Call it intellectual overcompensation.
re: #282 Franklin
The edit makes no sense. To say they can’t bring these bills up for debate/vote because their time is limited is to say that universal background checks is something the constituencies these reps serve don’t want.
I get that you don’t agree with the No Fly, No Buy, but lets not conflate these two issues/bills. Do you think that internet sales and gun show sales should be done without back ground checks?
DF/@Dark_Falcon7: Just a reminder for later that I would like to know your opinion on this quoted above.
Honestly, I don’t like the no-fly list and terrorist watch list as it’s currently compiled but it does exist and furthermore the Republican Party supports this too and in fact strongly does. So what pray tel is the purpose of having such a list if we can’t deny people who we think may commit acts of terror the right to get instruments that may allow them to get guns in the first place. If we can even reduce gun violence by 5% because of this bill, I’m happy with it, no one’s losing their right to bear arms. No one is. In fact, the firearms industry has been booming in the Obama years.
re: #289 HappyWarrior
The Obamacare repeal votes are mostly political theater put on to direct the rage of much of Republican Party away from the party’s congressional leadership and at Barack Obama.
re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It’s a win-win for the estate: who the hell had heard of that Spirit song before this lawsuit? Now it has had millions of people listening to the intro, at least.
Me!
And I’ve known people that have been talking about Taurus and Led Zep for 15 years or more. That’s because I know a bunch of Spirit fans (me included) that upon hearing the lick said right off ‘hey this sounds like the intro to Stairway to Heaven’.
And then there was my one friend (since passed) that was a huge Spirit fan back when we were in high school (69-72) and when he heard Stairway to Heaven said “Hey that intro sounds like that Spirit tune”
In other words…this is not new. It may be new to those that never heard it before this year and to those that had no idea there was a cool band named Spirit.
And since I like to play and write and have a pretty good feel for the history of R&R I am watching the whole trial with much interest. And I always keep in mind that Zep has been accused of nicking a lot of licks and lyrics from others.
Matter of fact, I got a pretty good laugh at the “session musicians” comment, as that is exactly how Jimmy Page started out.
Couldn’t resist…
@benshapiro תמחק את החשבון שלך.— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) June 23, 2016
(Translation from Hebrew: Delete your account.)
John Lewis is my fucking hero right now, an incredible man. Duckworth and Warren and the rest of them, all showing leadership and principle.
Something positive that makes me feel good in an otherwise negative world: Trumpenfuhrer, GOP trying to vote away funding for DoD planning on climate change, etc.
Proud of some of our government officials today, showing actual leadership on a important issue.
re: #271 Donkey With No Name
I’d have said
[Embedded content]
Yep, you’re right.
Forgot about that one.
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
The Obamacare repeal votes are mostly political theater put on to direct the rage of much of Republican Party away from the party’s congressional leadership and at Barack Obama.
Which, of course, is just peach keen! GO.FUCKING.TEAM.
re: #298 HappyWarrior
Honestly, I don’t like the no-fly list and terrorist watch list as it’s currently compiled but it does exist and furthermore the Republican Party supports this too and in fact strongly does. So what pray tel is the purpose of having such a list if we can’t deny people who we think may commit acts of terror the right to get instruments that may allow them to get guns in the first place.
They will tell you that the Right to Bear Arms was given to us by God (remember Charelton Heston holding that Kentucky Rifle aloft? That was a direct sign from the Creator) whereas the right to travel is not guaranteed
re: #284 The Vicious Babushka
Baby Whiplash is why I cut DF slack. He ain’t perfect but neither am I. I prefer having him around here as an honest check on my views. I know not everyone agrees with that but I really do think we’d be a far poorer place without him. In the end, I’d rather have him disagreeing than everyone here agreeing and no idea of what I may have missed.
DF, you are what you are: good and bad. So am I in my socialist ways. I lift a shot to you, sir.
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
The
Obamacare repeal votesHouse Dems Sit-Inareis mostly political theater put on to direct the rage of much ofRepublican Partythe American Peopleaway from the party’s congressional leadership and at Barack Obamatowards the do-nothing House of Representatives.
Funny, that.
re: #300 ObserverArt
Matter of fact, I got a pretty good laugh at the “session musicians” comment, as that is exactly how Jimmy Page started out.
As my taste in music progressed to listening to what was cool to what I really appreciated, I have grown to like Led Zeppelin less and less…
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
The Obamacare repeal votes are mostly political theater put on to direct the rage of much of Republican Party away from the party’s congressional leadership and at Barack Obama.
See, this is your fucking problem right here DF, it’s political theater when your guys do it but it should be punished with social spending cuts if the Dems do something that is minuscule in comparison. And as for the constant ACA repeals, they’re disgusting, they’re pushes for repeal of health insurance by a bunch of men and women who already have health insurance. But I think ti shows what your party really is- a bunch of fuck you, i got mine types who don’t give a damn if someone like me is denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition I have no control over.
re: #298 HappyWarrior
The ‘no fly / no buy’ bill would not reduce the murder rate by even 1%. The vast majority of what are being described as mass shootings (as opposed to mass murders) are not ‘active shooter’ type attacks but instead are gang violence over turf, drugs, and perceived slights. The demanded bill would not effect that type of violence at all.
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
Most of what happens in Congressional “hearings” and in addresses on the House floor is political theatre, performed so sound clips can be used by the elected officials.
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
That’s actually a fairly honest assessment. Mentions nothing about the accuracy (cough, non-existent…) of the complaint, but the why is covered truthfully. One of the things I appreciate about you…
re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
In a letter to the parole board that Berkowitz typed on a typewriter from his cell the night before the hearing, he called himself a Christian and detailed how he “helped” inmates and even “counseled” them over the years.
People can change and reform over time.
Does not necessarily mean that they are fit to be let out of prison, though…
I have thought that, for a lot of people, the world is too big for them. It’s needs to be shrunk down. He’s probably a good guy in a setting where he doesn’t have as many choices as he would outside the prison.
I understand the problems with the No-Fly list, but since I’m not really a gun person I don’t have a way to sympathize (except for those who are put on the list mistakenly and therefore can’t travel by plane).
When it comes to guns—hand guns, long guns, I have followed the lead of noted liberal philosopher Ronnie Van Zant:
Hand guns are made for killin’
They ain’t no good for nothin’ else
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don’t we dump ‘em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some ol’ fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me
re: #310 Dark_Falcon
The ‘no fly / no buy’ bill would not reduce the murder rate by even 1%. The vast majority of what are being described as mass shootings (as opposed to mass murders) are not ‘active shooter’ type attacks but instead are gang violence over turf, drugs, and perceived slights. The demanded bill would not effect that type of violence at all.
And you know this how? Have you got a crystal ball? Really, we’ve been doing what you want on guns for years now and guess what, we still have masses of gun violence. Maybe maybe just maybe your approach to gun violence isn’t the answer.
re: #311 freetoken
Most of what happens in Congressional “hearings” and in addresses on the House floor is political theatre, performed so sound clips can be used by the elected officials.
True that.
re: #266 BeenHereAwhile
This is Spirit’s best known song:
[Embedded content]
To the general public and the fact that it was used in commercials, etc., I’d say this is Spirits best known song.
re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
My fave is still the whole album Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus and this song from it is my fave:
[Embedded content]
This!
This to me is Spirit’s most well known tune. What is funny about it, a lot of people know the tune but not the band. It was used in commercials, movies, etc. Very popular tune.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session
and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
What a load of shit. “We now CAN’T do what we weren’t going to do anyway, because after violating tradition by not even considering bills with huge bipartisan support in the electorate, our opponents violated tradition by not letting us continue to ignore the problem!”
re: #315 HappyWarrior
And you know this how? Have you got a crystal ball? Really, we’ve been doing what you want on guns for years now and guess what, we still have masses of gun violence. Maybe maybe just maybe your approach to gun violence isn’t the answer.
Street gang members aren’t terrorists and to a high order of probability they don’t end up on the no-fly list.
re: #311 freetoken
Most of what happens in Congressional “hearings” and in addresses on the House floor is political theatre, performed so sound clips can be used by the elected officials.
Donald Trump is the master of the sound byte. Taken separately and individually, some of his statements are not totally batshit crazy, but he is banking on the certainty that most people are too politically ADD to string them together to produce a coherent picture of a self-contradictory ball of incoherent rage.
Sorry, this is emotional for me but I had friends in Blacksburg when Virginia Tech happened. I really think so often that gun humpers and I will continue to use that term because they see me as a fucking Nazi for daring to believe that things like background checks and the idea that certain arms should never be owned by civilians are guilty of having zero empathy at all towards victims of gun violence. Instead their response after a shooting is to agitate for more guns. We don’t need more guns. We need less.
(h/t @aceoaces)
@realDonaldTrump So you accept the endorsement of the architect of the Iraq war which you claim were against?
— Jeff Anthony (@drumjeffpdx) June 23, 2016
re: #316 Dark_Falcon
True that.
And now after failing to do anything useful about a continuing problem, the Congress is taking off A WHOLE FUCKING WEEK for a holiday that gets the rest of us ONE SINGLE DAY OFF.
But, hey - ‘they’ve got limited time’, right?
re: #319 Dark_Falcon
Street gang members aren’t terrorists and to a high order of probability they don’t end up on the no-fly list.
All I know is this, we like it or not have this no fly list. Tell me, if it’s thought that someone shouldn’t be able to board a plane without commiting an act of terrorism, why should they be able to own a gun? I will be the first to admit that the NFL has its problems but why do you and your party furthermore think it’s okay for someone to remain on that list but be able to purchase guns? You can’t have it both ways.
re: #289 HappyWarrior
Already asked but if this is such a waste of time, then what on earth were the multiple ACA repeals? I’ll tell you why I think you’re pissed by this tactic. You don’t like your party being exposed for caring more what the NRA wants than what the majority of the American people including the majority of American gun owners want to be done. That’s what this is.
His “team’ is getting its asses kicked in other words.
Come November the score will be telling.
re: #319 Dark_Falcon
Street gang members aren’t terrorists and to a high order of probability they don’t end up on the no-fly list.
This isn’t the only bill up for consideration. What about universal background checks? You don’t think that would help reduce the number of guns that make it into the hands of gang members?
re: #319 Dark_Falcon
Chicago gangs get their guns from Indiana because Indiana hardly has any restrictions to stop that from happening. But GO TEAM! Take a week’s vacation. You earned it!!!!
re: #326 Blind Frog Belly White
So…Rumsfeld’s endorsing the guy who claims he was always against Rumsfeld’s war, who says Rumsfeld et al. did a lousy job waging, and who blames Rumsfeld’s boss for 9/11 - or at least, did so when he was running against that guy’s brother.
Rummy’s another cog on the Go Team GOP mobile I guess. Maybe Rummy endorsing Trump will shut up the morons that think he’s a dove somehow. Trump wasn’t even anti-Iraq War like he claims.
re: #321 HappyWarrior
Instead their response after a shooting is to agitate for more guns. We don’t need more guns. We need less.
If you want to use a gun to defend yourself and your family at home, I respect that right, even if you are statistically not any safer for it.
But the notion that guns in public spaces wielded by untrained civilians during a live shooting incident are going to make us safer is absurd. Even the NRA is backing away from it.
re: #329 GlutenFreeJesus
Chicago gangs get their guns from Indiana because Indiana hardly has any restrictions to stop that from happening. But GO TEAM! Take a week’s vacation. You earned it!!!!
It’s the same here in Virginia. Everyone loves to shit on D.C for having strict gun laws but still a lot of gun violence but it totally ignores how one can go to Virginia which like Indiana has few restrictions and get guns. Our states and localities do not exist in vaccums. That to me is the fallacy of seeing guns as a state issue.
re: #315 HappyWarrior
Actually, I’d not be surprised if he were right. Why? The assault weapons ban of 1994. It was a really badly written piece of feel good legislation that named a number of specific models of firearms and then also named a number of physical features which somehow magically made a firearm more dangerous without talking about the one thing that really did make them more dangerous - large capacity and quickly changed magazines. When they did talk about magazines, it was separated from the real issues with AR type or so called Assault Weapons.
It has been claimed, and I believe it, that the 1994 bill banned nothing (because it took 5 seconds to slightly change a weapon and give it a new model name ) and that it prevented no crimes.
It’s not popular to say this here but this is why anti-gun people need to understand gun terminology better. If you do, you can avoid the loopholes that made the 1994 bill so utterly worthless. I’d rather spend the political capital of getting something passed that will actually do something positive.
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
The Obamacare repeal votes are mostly political theater put on to direct the rage of much of Republican Party away from the party’s congressional leadership and at Barack Obama.
???
Are you reading what you be writing?
You just said the Republicans were just dicking around. And yet you are pissed at the Democrats who actually have something to be pissed about and a nation backing them.
If you are ever to be pissed at Congress…then you should be incensed the Republicans did what you just admitted.
Quit while ahead!
re: #328 Franklin
This isn’t the only bill up for consideration. What about universal background checks? You don’t think that would help reduce the number of guns that make it into the hands of gang members?
Right universal background checks, etc. Why is that to be opposed? I have no illusions. We won’t get rid of gun violence but we should be taking measures to reduce it. I haven’t seen jack shit from the Republican Party that indicates that they see A) see gun violence as a problem of B) have ideas to reduce it, the former is much more disturbing to me than the latter honestly.
For those who maybe interested Radio Times will be having a discussion of why that Trump person is going downhill. Broadcast is at 10:00 am audio will be available around 1:00pm.
re: #319 Dark_Falcon
Street gang members aren’t terrorists and to a high order of probability they don’t end up on the no-fly list.
“If this provision doesn’t stop EVERY SINGLE GUN MURDER, it does no good AT ALL!!!”
Tell you what, Dark - next time you get an infection, tell the doctor you don’t want the antibiotic, because it won’t prevent cancer or heart disease.
re: #332 HappyWarrior
Illinois and DC should sue Indiana and VA.
re: #334 ObserverArt
???
Are you reading what you be writing?
You just said the Republicans were just dicking around. And yet you are pissed at the Democrats who actually have something to be pissed about and a nation backing them.
If you are ever to be pissed at Congress…then you should be incensed the Republicans did what you just admitted.
Quit while ahead!
Too late.
re: #333 William Lewis
Actually, I’d not be surprised if he were right. Why? The assault weapons ban of 1994. It was a really badly written piece of feel good legislation that named a number of specific models of firearms and then also named a number of physical features which somehow magically made a firearm more dangerous without talking about the one thing that really did make them more dangerous - large capacity and quickly changed magazines. When they did talk about magazines, it was separated from the real issues with AR type or so called Assault Weapons.
It has been claimed, and I believe it, that the 1994 bill banned nothing (because it took 5 seconds to slightly change a weapon and give it a new model name ) and that it prevented no crimes.
It’s not popular to say this here but this is why anti-gun people need to understand gun terminology better. If you do, you can avoid the loopholes that made the 1994 bill so utterly worthless. I’d rather spend the political capital of getting something passed that will actually do something positive.
Fair enough but I do think there are other things that have been attempted to pass for years now that are still opposed i.e. the universal background checks and closing of the gun show loophole.
re: #310 Dark_Falcon
The ‘no fly / no buy’ bill would not reduce the murder rate by even 1%. The vast majority of what are being described as mass shootings (as opposed to mass murders) are not ‘active shooter’ type attacks but instead are gang violence over turf, drugs, and perceived slights. The demanded bill would not effect that type of violence at all.
The guy arrested in Los Angeles last week on his way to Pride with a car full of automatic weapons and tons of ammo and explosive materials? The reason they were able to arrest him is because a weapon that California doesn’t allow was visible. So they could search and found everything else, and then after he was arrested they continued their investigation and found the evidence that he was probably planning a mass shooting.
If he’d tried this in a gun fetish State, especially an open carry state, he’d have been waved along and there’d have to be dead bodies before he could be arrested.
In Northern California a few years ago, this is also how the Highway Patrol was able to stop a guy who was planning a mass shooting at the Tides Foundation office (because Glenn Beck had been railing about their Soros connections and calling them a threat to all that is good and right).
California’s gun laws demonstrably reduce the number of mass shootings, and provably save lives.
re: #333 William Lewis
Actually, I’d not be surprised if he were right. Why? The assault weapons ban of 1994. It was a really badly written piece of feel good legislation that named a number of specific models of firearms and then also named a number of physical features which somehow magically made a firearm more dangerous without talking about the one thing that really did make them more dangerous - large capacity and quickly changed magazines. When they did talk about magazines, it was separated from the real issues with AR type or so called Assault Weapons.
It has been claimed, and I believe it, that the 1994 bill banned nothing (because it took 5 seconds to slightly change a weapon and give it a new model name ) and that it prevented no crimes.
It’s not popular to say this here but this is why anti-gun people need to understand gun terminology better. If you do, you can avoid the loopholes that made the 1994 bill so utterly worthless. I’d rather spend the political capital of getting something passed that will actually do something positive.
The Assault Weapons Ban also banned the manufacture or importation of high-capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) for non-governmental use.
re: #333 William Lewis
Actually, I’d not be surprised if he were right. Why? The assault weapons ban of 1994. It was a really badly written piece of feel good legislation that named a number of specific models of firearms and then also named a number of physical features which somehow magically made a firearm more dangerous without talking about the one thing that really did make them more dangerous - large capacity and quickly changed magazines. When they did talk about magazines, it was separated from the real issues with AR type or so called Assault Weapons.
It has been claimed, and I believe it, that the 1994 bill banned nothing (because it took 5 seconds to slightly change a weapon and give it a new model name ) and that it prevented no crimes.
It’s not popular to say this here but this is why anti-gun people need to understand gun terminology better. If you do, you can avoid the loopholes that made the 1994 bill so utterly worthless. I’d rather spend the political capital of getting something passed that will actually do something positive.
Ya know, if the AWB had really been so ineffectual and stupid, it would not be so wildly unpopular with gunfuckers.
When I say that the GOP doesn’t see gun violence as a problem, I don’t mean to say they’re not horrified by things like Orlando. Certainly they were but their answer after things like Orlando, Sandy Hook, etc is always anything but guns. They’ll blame Islam (even though that white non-Muslim guy was on his way to CAlifornia to do something similiar), the lack of prayer in school (I can not tell you how many times I see Engle v Vitale blamed whenever a school shooting happens), legalized abortion (yep that happens too), etc. We have a problem with gun violence in this country. It’s a pity that only one party ercongizes this.
re: #340 HappyWarrior
Fair enough but I do think there are other things that have been attempted to pass for years now that are still opposed i.e. the universal background checks and closing of the gun show loophole.
There are many things that can be done. What you suggest, titles for firearms, and so forth. That said, nothing will happen until we have a majority and I’m not sure that will happen before the census (Gerrymandering … ) and only if we get people turning out for midterms.
re: #345 William Lewis
There are many things that can be done. What you suggest, titles for firearms, and so forth. That said, nothing will happen until we have a majority and I’m not sure that will happen before the census (Gerrymandering … ) and only if we get people turning out for midterms.
True enough. I guess that’s the problem. We have a totally irrational minority out there that obstructs the will of the majority.
re: #344 HappyWarrior
When I say that the GOP doesn’t see gun violence as a problem, I don’t mean to say they’re not horrified by things like Orlando. Certainly they were but their answer after things like Orlando, Sandy Hook, etc is always anything but guns. They’ll blame Islam (even though that white non-Muslim guy was on his way to CAlifornia to do something similiar), the lack of prayer in school (I can not tell you how many times I see Engle v Vitale blamed whenever a school shooting happens), legalized abortion (yep that happens too), etc. We have a problem with gun violence in this country. It’s a pity that only one party ercongizes this.
a bit OT but here is the real reason the GOP is dragging its feet on Zika research and treatement:
re: #344 HappyWarrior
When I say that the GOP doesn’t see gun violence as a problem, I don’t mean to say they’re not horrified by things like Orlando. Certainly they were but their answer after things like Orlando, Sandy Hook, etc is always anything but guns. They’ll blame Islam (even though that white non-Muslim guy was on his way to CAlifornia to do something similiar), the lack of prayer in school (I can not tell you how many times I see Engle v Vitale blamed whenever a school shooting happens), legalized abortion (yep that happens too), etc. We have a problem with gun violence in this country. It’s a pity that only one party ercongizes this.
“It’s terrible that you have this cancer, but cutting it out isn’t the answer. The real problem is your hangnails. We need to deal with these hangnails, and then the cancer will go away.”
I hope the Brits will make the correct choice today (which is, of course, remaining in the EU).
re: #349 Blind Frog Belly White
“It’s terrible that you have this cancer, but cutting it out isn’t the answer. The real problem is your hangnails. We need to deal with these hangnails, and then the cancer will go away.”
You have cancer because you are a sinner and God is punishing you. Now get out of my sight!!!
You know it is kind of funny Bernie wanted to see people rise up and have a revolution, make a stand fight back.
Well Bernie…here you go. The Democrats are doing it in the House!
re: #342 Timothy Watson
The Assault Weapons Ban also banned the manufacturer or importation of high-capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) for non-governmental use.
The US Army won WWII with clips (yes, correctly used :) that held 8 rounds. The danger is not the size, it is the speed of reloading. If you can slam in 10 rounds in an instant after you have fired 10 rounds you are far more dangerous than someone dealing with California’s “Bullet Button” magazines.
The State does not have a legal right to poke holes in your space suit…
SCOTUS holds that when arrested for DUI, the Fourth Amendment permits the government to require breath alcohol tests but not blood tests.
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) June 23, 2016
re: #353 ObserverArt
You know it is kind of funny Bernie wanted to see people rise up and have a revolution, make a stand fight back.
Well Bernie…here you go. The Democrats are doing it in the House!
The funny thing is seeing the ignorant Berners on Twitter saying that John Lewis stole Bernie’s ideas. Because John Lewis was a total nobody and do nothing before Bernie Sanders.
re: #350 Nyet
It would be nice if they would do that. Like with elections in the US we have to wait to see what the outcome is.
re: #343 Blind Frog Belly White
They are stupid. Doesn’t make the law any more effective.
re: #357 PhillyPretzel
And like many important elections/polls lately, it will be a nail-biting 40+/50+.
re: #350 Nyet
I hope the Brits will make the correct choice today (which is, of course, remaining in the EU).
It’s going to be interesting to see how it breaks down. From what I understand the English are more anti-EU but the Scots are more pro-EU. Not sure but it will be interesting to see what happens anyhow.
In my opinion such decisions should never be made on a 50%+1 vote basis. They affect too many people immediately.
75%+1 vote is more like it.
re: #357 PhillyPretzel
It would be nice if they would do that. Like with elections in the US we have to wait to see what the outcome is.
We just love instant miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and election results months in advance.
re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It’s a win-win for the estate: who the hell had heard of that Spirit song before this lawsuit? Now it has had millions of people listening to the intro, at least.
From what I’ve heard, Led Zeppelin had seen Spirit play on one of their trips to CA. Spirit was a groundbreaking and very interesting rock band in their time. They weren’t nobodies.
re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
lol. It is the custom of all of the news services trying to predict any election with 1% of the vote or less.
BREAKING: Supreme Court upholds University of Texas’ affirmative action admissions program. pic.twitter.com/ZjG46PT1Uz
— ABC News (@ABC) June 23, 2016
re: #366 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
It’s a wonder what the removal of one nasty egg does to the basket. I mean I am still not fond of Thomas, Alito, and Roberts, but Scalia was a special kind of asshole.
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that is that to reward pressure tactics like sit-ins gets you more of them. Also, the House has limited time in session and bringing bills to the floor that are destined to die there is now seldom done.
So it was perfectly OK to bring up the destined-to-die repeals of the ACA 60 times because that was then?
re: #364 stpaulbear
From what I’ve heard, Led Zeppelin had seen Spirit play on one of their trips to CA. Spirit was a groundbreaking and very interesting rock band in their time. They weren’t nobodies.
I remember hearing Nature’s Way when I was a kid. Cool song. Anyhow, I wonder if we could possibly have a thing like what Harrison had with My Sweet Lord and He’s So Fine when Judge Owen ruled that while in his opinion George did not deliberately copy the tune, he had done so subconsciously. Not sure, I really need to read more on both cases. The funniest I can think is Vanilla Ice being in blatant denial that he took from Under Pressure.
re: #367 HappyWarrior
It’s a wonder what the removal of one nasty egg does to the basket. I mean I am still not fond of Thomas, Alito, and Roberts, but Scalia was a special kind of asshole.
Wow, Thomas with the majority???
Justice Kennedy wrote the 20-page majority opinion. Justices Alito and Roberts dissent, with Kagan not participating.
— NPR (@NPR) June 23, 2016
re: #365 PhillyPretzel
lol. It is the custom of all of the news services trying to predict any election with 1% of the vote or less.
It still has to be a horse race to keep viewers (and potential voters) interested.
The upcoming Presidential election will be different. They will start out of the gate with Hillary in a significant lead, and it will be a big news item whenever Trump gains a tenth of a percentage point in Missouri or elsewhere.
I’ve had it with the gun grabbing Democrats and their sit in anti 2nd amendment jihad. I’m going to go home and buy a new gun.
— Steve King (@SteveKingIA) June 23, 2016
re: #370 FormerDirtDart
Wow, Thomas with the majority???
[Embedded content]
How strange, I won’t complain though.
re: #372 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
He shouldn’t be able to have a gun, Stevie King is mentally unstable.
re: #364 stpaulbear
From what I’ve heard, Led Zeppelin had seen Spirit play on one of their trips to CA. Spirit was a groundbreaking and very interesting rock band in their time. They weren’t nobodies.
I have their greatest hits CD (and all their albums) and play it probably 10 times a year or more. I like all the albums, but the best of CD has all the really familiar tunes and just hits the spot when I need a Spirit lift.
My guitar jamming buddy is a huge Spirit fan and we talk all the time about how they should have been way more recognized but sadly are not. As I said the other day, they added jazz breaks into their tunes along with many different percussive rhythms. If anything they were too ahead of their time.
re: #370 FormerDirtDart
4-3 decision, so Thomas dissented.
@tusk81 so meta
— Franklin (@franklinftw) June 23, 2016
re: #289 HappyWarrior
Already asked but if this is such a waste of time, then what on earth were the multiple ACA repeals? I’ll tell you why I think you’re pissed by this tactic. You don’t like your party being exposed for caring more what the NRA wants than what the majority of the American people including the majority of American gun owners want to be done. That’s what this is.
It’s even more basic than that. D_F just doesn’t like seeing the enemy winning. He sees any success by the Democrats as a direct threat to his team, and it cannot be tolerated.
I doubt he’s actually going to go buy a gun but he sure as hell is egging his constituents who probably in their number have people more nutso than him to go out and buy. That’s the goddamned thing with Republicans and guns. They never miss an opportuntiy to encourage people to buy more guns.
re: #354 William Lewis
The US Army won WWII with clips (yes, correctly used :) that held 8 rounds. The danger is not the size, it is the speed of reloading. If you can slam in 10 rounds in an instant after you have fired 10 rounds you are far more dangerous than someone dealing with California’s “Bullet Button” magazines.
Most people, even most people with a gun, aren’t going to be able to replace a clip fast enough to be nearly continuous. No one needs that many rounds all at the same time.
re: #376 Nyet
4-3 decision, so Thomas dissented.
I guess NPR didn’t list Thomas because, you know, his vote is obvious…
re: #372 FormerDirtDart
Well, we can certainly get behind the ” going home” part: unfortunately, it’s probably unlikely that he’ll stay there…
re: #383 FormerDirtDart
I guess NPR didn’t list Thomas because, you know, his vote is obvious…
No, it appears Kagan did not participate. Not sure why.
re: #384 Jay C
Well, we can certainly get behind the ” going home” part: unfortunately, it’s probably unlikely that he’ll stay there…
Maybe Shoeless Joe and the other baseball playing ghosts can haunt him in the cornfield.
I think SNAP and Medicaid benefits ought to be tied to the number of guns in the house. If you can afford more than one gun, you obviously have some money to spare.
Yes, this is meant to be a poke at Republican’s positions on these issues.
re: #385 HappyWarrior
No, it appears Kagan did not participate. Not sure why.
She was involved as Solicitor General in an earlier case involving the same parties that was remanded for further consideration:
en.wikipedia.org
re: #387 Belafon
I think SNAP and Medicaid benefits ought to be tied to the number of guns in the house. If you can afford more than one gun, you obviously have some money to spare.
Yes, this is meant to be a poke at Republican’s positions on these issues.
Honestly, I do get a chuckle of Republican voters who also boast about the large number of guns they own bitching about Uncle Sam and taxes. Maybe you’d have more money to spend if you didn’t constantly need to get a new gun.
re: #388 Timothy Watson
She was involved as Solicitor General in an earlier case involving the same parties that was remanded for further consideration:
en.wikipedia.org
Oh okay, I thought it would be something like that.
Police say there is an ‘unclear threat situation’ at a movie theater in southwestern Germany. https://t.co/fHJytsBZkr
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 23, 2016
re: #385 HappyWarrior
No, it appears Kagan did not participate. Not sure why.
Yes, I know Kagan did not participate, as it is stated in the tweet I posted. Yet, it lists Alito and Roberts as dissenting. But, not Thomas
Justice Kennedy wrote the 20-page majority opinion. Justices Alito and Roberts dissent, with Kagan not participating.
— NPR (@NPR) June 23, 2016
Thus my comment:
re: #383 FormerDirtDart
I guess NPR didn’t list Thomas because, you know, his vote is obvious…
re: #392 FormerDirtDart
Yes, I know Kagan did not participate, as it is stated in the tweet I posted. Yet, it lists Alito and Roberts as dissenting. But, not Thomas
[Embedded content]
Thus my comment:
D’oh. I’m sorry. You’re right.
re: #391 The Vicious Babushka
Police say there is an ‘unclear threat situation’ at a movie theater in southwestern Germany.
not to worry, I am on my way there with a gun to get the situation under control…
/
Should we call this the “Warren strategy”?
Obama: No One Actually Thinks Trump Is ‘Most Successful Businessman’
re: #391 The Vicious Babushka
Police say there is an ‘unclear threat situation’ at a movie theater in southwestern Germany.
Let’s hope the person who wrote ‘unclear’ isn’t dyslexic and prone to transposing letters….
re: #396 Blind Frog Belly White
Let’s hope the person who wrote ‘unclear’ isn’t dyslexic and prone to transposing letters….
There is a nuclear station near there (in Biblis) that has been very prone to glitches…
BREAKING: Armed man opens fire in German cinema complex, up to 50 hurt: media https://t.co/3p9wGqwTFV
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) June 23, 2016
For those complaining about the “no fly/no buy” that Democrats are pushing, Betty Cracker gets it right. It starts out with a tweet about John Lewis protesting a restaurant in 1960 (which I can’t copy because I can’t see twitter right now):
In addition to enforcing Jim Crow, I bet that Nashville restaurant pictured at left also paid its female employees less than the men. It was the 1960s, after all, and women still aren’t being paid equitably 50 years later.
Was John Lewis tacitly endorsing the oppression of women by signifying a desire to eat at that lunch counter? Fuck no. I bet he didn’t even have a hankering for that joint’s particular pot of stale coffee and congealed, lumpy grits. Lewis was doing something much more important than trying to order food: He was dramatizing the unfairness of segregated public accommodations.
…
The script for this bit of political theater includes the chant, “No fly, no buy.” Should this be understood as a Democratic embrace of the unfair “no fly list”? Nope. No legislation will come out of this protest. The sit-in is political theater that is meant to “dramatize” — as John Lewis carefully put it — Republicans’ refusal to do their jobs.
You’re watching a drama, and a damn good one, with a cast of Democrats who are displaying spine and fire on an important issue as we’ve been demanding for fucking years. You can choose this moment to nitpick the script. But if so, you’ve lost the damn plot, IMO.
Sigh…
DEVELOPING: Gunman opens fire at movie theater in Germany: reports https://t.co/px9D7Te7DL
— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 23, 2016
re: #381 HappyWarrior
I doubt he’s actually going to go buy a gun but he sure as hell is egging his constituents who probably in their number have people more nutso than him to go out and buy. That’s the goddamned thing with Republicans and guns. They never miss an opportuntiy to encourage people to buy more guns.
Hey, when you are in northwestern Iowa you need to worry about the gangs in Chicago, LA, Miami and New York. And if not them, then there are those radical Islamic terrorists ready to blow up grain silos and take your teenage son and daughter and make them ISIS slaves.
FOX News makes it so!
re: #401 FormerDirtDart
Time to go visit zooborns.com to take my mind off of this.
re: #21 Belafon
Love this, Representative John Lewis Is Not To Be Trifled With (the page link actually say “John Lewis is Not Here for Your Shit”):
You should not fuck with Representative John Lewis. You should not even begin to contemplate the process of how you might fuck with Representative John Lewis. He is the admiral of Not Today, Satan. He is the general of Not Fucking Having It.
Wanted to repost this for the morning crowd, a GREAT READ….
Any good German news sources that also publish in English?
Samantha Bee always funny….
.@ScottPetersSD We are huuuge fans of your work on Periscope, even your earlier stuff. You rule!
— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) June 23, 2016
Assholes:
Obama Administration immigration plan remains blocked by 4-4 Supreme Court tie. Lower court injunction remains in place.
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) June 23, 2016
First it was 50, now 25
Shooting at a cinema in Germany has left 25 people wounded, German public TV reports. https://t.co/Tl9W6rLZIl pic.twitter.com/k55Hvhz20S
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) June 23, 2016
At least 20 people injured after man attacks cinema complex in German town of Viernheim https://t.co/7iBzsXZW4s pic.twitter.com/AT0IuTDVvA
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) June 23, 2016
re: #405 Timothy Watson
Any good German news sources that also publish in English?
der spiegel spiegel.de
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
The Obamacare repeal votes are mostly political theater put on to direct the rage of much of Republican Party away from the party’s congressional leadership and at Barack Obama.
True of course and one of my major motivations to despise this Congress. When I want theater I order tickets online. I voted for legislators.
re: #405 Timothy Watson
Police forbids to spread info in such cases, won’t be decent coverage until the situation is resolved.
re: #412 Nyet
Police forbids to spread info in such cases, won’t be decent coverage until the situation is resolved.
But it would be reckless not to speculate that the shooter is a radical Muslim extremist and/or Syrian refugee.
/
I’m sensing a lot of sadness and frustration in the Hispanic community. This will become a major issue for the 2016 election.
— JORGE RAMOS (@jorgeramosnews) June 23, 2016
re: #412 Nyet
Police forbids to spread info in such cases, won’t be decent coverage until the situation is resolved.
Heh, great now we need a 48 hour rule but the publics patience is 24 seconds. Best wishes to the responders
Donald Trump slaps around George W. Bush and the Iraq war.
Donald Rumsfeld endorses Donald Trump.
These people are drunk.— Gus Establishment™ (@Gus_802) June 23, 2016
re: #321 HappyWarrior
Sorry, this is emotional for me but I had friends in Blacksburg when Virginia Tech happened. I really think so often that gun humpers and I will continue to use that term because they see me as a fucking Nazi for daring to believe that things like background checks and the idea that certain arms should never be owned by civilians are guilty of having zero empathy at all towards victims of gun violence. Instead their response after a shooting is to agitate for more guns. We don’t need more guns. We need less.
It isn’t more guns they want. It’s more faith.
Possession of firearms is an expression of faith to these people. Faith in America. When everyone has guns everyone will be faithful and then evil will be defeated.
Yes, it’s nuts but it is what they believe.
The Puritans have a lot to answer for.
re: #416 Franklin
It’s one thing that they’re drunk.
That they’re drunk on Trump’s urine is what’s bad.
(Sorry.)
CNN reports German shooter has been apprehended.
re: #417 Romantic Heretic
It isn’t more guns they want. It’s more faith.
Possession of firearms is an expression of faith to these people. Faith in America. When everyone has guns everyone will be faithful and then evil will be defeated.
Yes, it’s nuts but it is what they believe.
The Puritans have a lot to answer for.
Faith in the notion that guns are some sort of God-given talisman that will allow the virtuous to protect us from Evil
Wow, the number jumped quite a bit…
BREAKING: 50 people injured in Germany movie theater shooting; gunman barricaded inside https://t.co/WUYgB0coHe pic.twitter.com/7HaXZ0UAxE
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) June 23, 2016
Officer acquitted in killing of Freddie Gray. Oh dear…
re: #423 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Also Deutsche Welle spiegel.de
I used to listen to DW back when short wave radio was a thing. I guess they still do that kind of analog stuff now. ;-)
welt.de is their web presence. I really really miss their short wave.
As was theorized above:
Per German press, the 25 were hurt by tear gas https://t.co/yGfnIUqayz pic.twitter.com/g2Zd7FQHKX
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) June 23, 2016
re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
er- adds the notion of completeness.
When would we expect to hear the results of the Brexit vote?
re: #432 Franklin
I’ve read something about 10pm (London time?).
re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
er- is not -er ;)
Got two cousins who live in the UK. Wonder how their husbands and their families will be voting on this.
All hell’s broken loose in Norfolk over the ‘yes’ or ‘no’ debate. It’s close, but they are expected to allow women to vote.#Referendum
— Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) June 23, 2016
Voting is in full swing. We asked 100 BMW drivers for early indications. None understand what indications meant.#Referendum
— Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) June 23, 2016
Boris Johnson is hoping for a landslide. But he’d be equally happy to bury David Cameron using a shovel. #Referendum
— Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) June 23, 2016
re: #440 HappyWarrior
Got two cousins who live in the UK. Wonder how their husbands and their families will be voting on this.
Most of my rellies there are for stay, but then again, they are young, well educated and open to the world.
re: #438 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Tell the joke… ;)
re: #442 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Most of my rellies there are for stay, but then again, they are young, well educated and open to the world.
Both my cousins husbands are university graduates and quite well traveled. I’ve never talked politics with them but if they’re anything like their wives, I expect they’re liberal minded at the very least.
So they paid her so they could endorse her? Explain the logic here. https://t.co/NWrP3j0x5a
— Armando (@armandodkos) June 23, 2016
Forget it Jake….
re: #435 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That is when polls close
There won’t be a call for some after the polls close as the margin either way is likely to be quite small. Definitive announcements won’t come until about 02:00 or so.
I voted earlier today, didn’t get exit-polled.
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS!!!!!
Pray for the people of Germany during the ongoing shooter situation at a cinema in Viernheim. https://t.co/xHURdIaMuU
— Franklin Graham (@Franklin_Graham) June 23, 2016
This:
I’m sensing a lot of sadness and frustration in the Hispanic community. This will become a major issue for the 2016 election.
— JORGE RAMOS (@jorgeramosnews) June 23, 2016
and this…
And there you go: Hillary just released a statement pledging to push immigration reform in first 100 days. https://t.co/iZMcXuT36N
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) June 23, 2016
re: #443 Nyet
Tell the joke… ;)
For those of you unfamiliar with Goethe’s ballads, Der Erlkönig An anxious young boy is being carried home at night by his father on horseback. To what sort of home is not spelled out; German Hof has a rather broad meaning of “yard,” “courtyard,” “farm,” or (royal) “court.” The lack of specificity of the father’s social position allows the reader to imagine the details.
As the poem unfolds, the son seems to see and hear beings his father does not; the reader cannot know if the father is indeed aware of their presence, but he chooses to comfort his son, asserting reassuringly naturalistic explanations for what the child sees - a wisp of fog, rustling leaves, shimmering willows. Finally, the child shrieks that he has been attacked. The father rides faster to the Hof. There he recognizes that the boy is dead…
(you really want the rest?)
re: #448 Franklin
This:
[Embedded content]
Hispanics are going to be an electoral force this year. I really think not only because he’s qualified and a good choice but i think Julian Castro should be the VP. I love Senators Warren and Brown’s energy and progressive bonafidies but Julian is a straunch progressive and going to IMO play a big role in Democratic politics in the future. The GOP really has no idea how much they’ve alienated Hispanics and it’s going to come back to bite them big time. I don’t think the Dems will win Texas but I am going to predict right now that Texas will be the closest it’s been in years and in 2020 will be a battleground state.
and also this….
Major address on the Supreme Court by Clinton is in order.
— Armando (@armandodkos) June 23, 2016
re: #450 HappyWarrior
Hispanics are going to be an electoral force this year. I really think not only because he’s qualified and a good choice but i think Julian Castro should be the VP. I love Senators Warren and Brown’s energy and progressive bonafidies but Julian is a straunch progressive and going to IMO play a big role in Democratic politics in the future. The GOP really has no idea how much they’ve alienated Hispanics and it’s going to come back to bite them big time. I don’t think the Dems will win Texas but I am going to predict right now that Texas will be the closest it’s been in years and in 2020 will be a battleground state.
I don’t like Warren for VP for selfish reasons. I want to keep her as my Senator!
re: #452 SoundGuy 2016
Hispanics, women.
I want to hear them roar.
I think you will hear it. These are two groups that the GOP has gone out of their way to shit on.
re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
My fave is still the whole album Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus and this song from it is my fave:
[Embedded content]
Oh, yeah, that and Animal Zoo.
That whole album is Killer Bee.
Morning, all!
Oh, and for everyone’s edification, today’s referendum in the UK is just a tad more complicated than it appears at the surface. Here’s a good piece of journalism:
re: #453 Franklin
I don’t like Warren for VP for selfish reasons. I want to keep her as my Senator!
Yeah and honestly I think her skillset at the moment is better suited for the Senate.
I admit I profiled the German shooter: white nationalist or brown jihadist. Then I immediately thought how much they need each other.
re: #450 HappyWarrior
Hispanics tend to be conservative, Catholic and to have have strong “family values”. But then we see how at odds this notion is with the GOP’s concept of “family values”
Hispanics favor strong schools, communities and civic institutions that help foster and promote families and education. Even if that means taxes to help pay for them. The GOP just means that they want you to have a nuclear family with the wife barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
Ummmmm..What?
BERLIN (AP) — Police say no one injured by gunman at #Germany movie theater.
— Matt Lee (@APDiploWriter) June 23, 2016
re: #449 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
OK, so who’s Lenkönig and where’s the joke?
re: #459 FormerDirtDart
This is one of many reasons why I prefer a reliable source of information.
re: #458 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Hispanics tend to be conservative, Catholic and to have have strong “family values”. But then we see how at odds this notion is with the GOP’s concept of “family values”
Hispanics favor strong schools, communities and civic institutions that help foster and promote families and education. Even if that means taxes to help pay for them. The GOP just means that they want you to have a nuclear family with the wife barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.
Right. Hispanics truly do believe in family. Man I feel so bad whenever I visit my niece’s mom’s family and all the extended relatives remember me by name and ask me how I am and I can’t even remember who they are. Some of my brothers struggle knowing who our own first cousins are so I guess I can’t feel too bad but the Hispanic sense of familia is very real unlike the GOP who just use it as a cheap slogan with little substance.
re: #462 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Um.
Hot fire from Dick Armey, who once accidentally called Barney Frank “Barney Fag.” pic.twitter.com/k9VLKXj8ZE
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) June 23, 2016
re: #459 FormerDirtDart
Ummmmm..What?
[Embedded content]
Franklin Graham’s thoughts and prayers worked!
//
D’oh, already posted by:
re: #466 FormerDirtDart
I’ll replace it with a joke:
Knock Knock
Who’s there?
Alex!
Alex who?
Alex the questions round here!
re: #468 Nyet
Shut up, Dick Army.
Watch your decorum!
(stares sternly above reading glasses with pursed lips)
Preliminary: probably not an act of terror.
Zum Motiv des Täters machte die Polizei bislang keine Angaben. Die Deutsche Presseagentur berichtet allerdings unter Berufung auf Sicherheitskreise, es habe sich um einen verwirrten Einzeltäter und nicht um einen terroristischen Anschlag gehandelt.
re: #469 Franklin
two minutes and four seconds…
You have got to do better…
//
re: #471 Nyet
That is good to know but I do not read German. Translation, please.
re: #300 ObserverArt
Me!
Me too. As of last Thursday.
I dialed up “Taurus” on Apple. Intrigued, I listened to the rest of the album. Even more intrigued, I dialed up the Dr Sardonicus album, and was bowled over. Given the fertile pop music and rock market in the UK, and the fact that there wasn’t any FM “album” radio at the time, Spirit didn’t make much of an impact. So I was literally listening to this with fresh ears, and hearing songs like “Life Has Just Begun”, and thinking things like: “That sounds like the Fleet Foxes! In 1971!”
re: #471 Nyet
Preliminary: probably not an act of terror.
Google translator:
For motive of the perpetrator, the police previously did not have. However, the German Press Agency reported, citing security circles, there had been a confused individual perpetrators and not a terrorist attack.
re: #469 Franklin
Refresh my 469, it was already posted, I replaced it with a joke :)
re: #474 PhillyPretzel
Security circles say probably a confused lone perpetrator, not a terror attack.
re: #466 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
Yep, look who’s talking Dick. And of course there wasn’t a word from this dickwad when one of his own called Obama a liar during the SOTU.
re: #466 FormerDirtDart
Is that posted from rehab? Lord, that man could drink.
re: #466 FormerDirtDart
[Embedded content]
And I once accidentally spelled “Dick Armey” s.h.i.t.h.e.a.d.
re: #479 Nyet
From the twitter messages it was made to sound like a terrorist attack. Another reason not to tweet.
re: #471 Nyet
Preliminary: probably not an act of terror.
And GSG-9 probably didn’t even have enough time to get their gear packed.
/////
Oy
German official: suspect made a confused impression
not confirmed if had a real weapon or not
suspect took hostages,
was shot dead by police— Richard Engel (@RichardEngel) June 23, 2016
re: #484 PhillyPretzel
From the twitter messages it was made to sound like a terrorist attack. Another reason not to tweet.
We don’t know one way or another. We don’t even know the motive, and whether it was a terror attack depends on the motive (too).
“Twenty injured” sounded awful, but it was only from the tear gas that the police set off…
re: #489 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“Twenty injured” sounded awful, but it was only from the tear gas that the police set off…
Yeah, in the United States tear gas “injury” wouldn’t be reported like that. It would be reported along the lines of, “Suspect dead, twenty treated for tear gas exposure.”
re: #489 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“Twenty injured” sounded awful, but it was only from the tear gas that the police set off…
Let’s not forget that all the 130 dead hostages in the Moscow Nordost attack died from the gas used by the police/whoever.
re: #466 FormerDirtDart
In 1985 Bill Natcher was so old he probably fell asleep during House sessions, and he was closer to being a Republican than a Democrat. The classic good ol’ boy gone old.
And yes, I have met and spoken with Rep. Natcher — when he was alive, that is.
re: #491 Nyet
Let’s not forget that all the 130 dead hostages in the Moscow Nordost attack died from the gas used by the police/whoever.
Oh, gosh, forgot about that disaster.
re: #475 Alephnaught
Me too. As of last Thursday.
I dialed up “Taurus” on Apple. Intrigued, I listened to the rest of the album. Even more intrigued, I dialed up the Dr Sardonicus album, and was bowled over. Given the fertile pop music and rock market in the UK, and the fact that there wasn’t any FM “album” radio at the time, Spirit didn’t make much of an impact. So I was literally listening to this with fresh ears, and hearing songs like “Life Has Just Begun”, and thinking things like: “That sounds like the Fleet Foxes! In 1971!”
I’ll put in a plug for The Family That Plays Together album too. I like it as much (maybe a little more) than Dr. Sardonicus, but that may be because Family was my point of entry for Spirit. I think ‘Aren’t You Glad’ is one of their very best songs.
So far nothing from the New York Times and a brief mention in The Wall Street Journal.
Now imagine he had had a semi-automatic weapon…
Yep, what a difference it makes. Again.
re: #491 Nyet
Let’s not forget that all the 130 dead hostages in the Moscow Nordost attack died from the gas used by the police/whoever.
But that was Fentanyl or something similar IIRC.
re: #496 Nyet
Now imagine he had had a semi-automatic weapon…
Yep, what a difference it makes. Again.
It does make a difference. I recall there was a man who attacked a school in China with a knife. None of the children were killed. The NRA is fond of saying guns don’t kill people, people kill people but guns especially guns like that make it a hell ofa lot easier.
re: #475 Alephnaught
Me too. As of last Thursday.
I dialed up “Taurus” on Apple. Intrigued, I listened to the rest of the album. Even more intrigued, I dialed up the Dr Sardonicus album, and was bowled over. Given the fertile pop music and rock market in the UK, and the fact that there wasn’t any FM “album” radio at the time, Spirit didn’t make much of an impact. So I was literally listening to this with fresh ears, and hearing songs like “Life Has Just Begun”, and thinking things like: “That sounds like the Fleet Foxes! In 1971!”
I’ll see your Dr Sardonicus and raise you The Abominable Dr. Phibes.
Enjoy!
Simmons has some advice for her fellow Brits.
A huge day for the UK today, please DO your research, SEE past false promises and USE YOUR VOTE 💪. #eureferendum 👭👫 pic.twitter.com/BTYyJ0tDCP
— Elizabeth Henstridge (@Lil_Henstridge) June 23, 2016
And treatment for tear gas exposure is usually flushing with water to the eyes and face unless it aggravates a preexisting heart or lung condition.
re: #475 Alephnaught
Me too. As of last Thursday.
I dialed up “Taurus” on Apple. Intrigued, I listened to the rest of the album. Even more intrigued, I dialed up the Dr Sardonicus album, and was bowled over. Given the fertile pop music and rock market in the UK, and the fact that there wasn’t any FM “album” radio at the time, Spirit didn’t make much of an impact. So I was literally listening to this with fresh ears, and hearing songs like “Life Has Just Begun”, and thinking things like: “That sounds like the Fleet Foxes! In 1971!”
I guess I was a lucky kid: there were at least three “underground” album-rock stations in Chicago when I was a teenager, and especially late at night they would play whole album sides or whole sets dedicated to a particular theme or band.
1. There were allegedly 4 shots in all.
2. Acc. to the new info there were no injuries whatsoever.
The two party US system has its flaws, but tell me again how the two parties are no different.
re: #505 SoundGuy 2016
Every system has its good and bad points. Accept it for what it is.
re: #505 SoundGuy 2016
The two party US system has its flaws, but tell me again how the two parties are no different.
There is some overlap: a cabal of former Goldman-Sachs executives is going to run our banking & financial system regardless, but there are major differences in social policy.
re: #502 Timothy Watson
Summer temperatures/humidity exacerbate tear gas exposure…
I speak from multiple exposures…
re: #502 Timothy Watson
And treatment for tear gas exposure is usually flushing with water to the eyes and face unless it aggravates a preexisting heart or lung condition.
Or laughter from your company commanders in boot camp.
Major differences in just about every facet of policy. Even Wall St.
Feed is live now, waiting for Obama to speak on SCOTUS decision re: Immigration EO:
The very first videos from Viernheim:
Nach der #Geiselnahme: Erste Bewegtbilder aus #Viernheim…https://t.co/WEDAl3pESd
— hessenschau (@hessenschau) June 23, 2016
The most compelling difference between parties, on a most rational level, is that the GOP are stupid poopy head jerk faces.
re: #511 SoundGuy 2016
Major differences in just about every facet of policy.
EvenEspecially Wall St.
Fixed.
Geez, what did they put in Squint’s cornflakes?
Morning Joe hammers GOP’s Tom Cole for his #NoFlyNoBuy excuses: If the watch list is bad — fix it
re: #360 HappyWarrior
It’s going to be interesting to see how it breaks down. From what I understand the English are more anti-EU but the Scots are more pro-EU. Not sure but it will be interesting to see what happens anyhow.
It’s true that Scotland is heavily pro remain, and apparently recent polls have Northern Ireland pro remain over concerns about border controls with the Republic of Ireland, given that Leave campaigners had been quoted as saying they’re not in favour of the EU’s freedom of movement because immigration. London, which has more votes than Scotland and NI combined, is also speed to be pro-remain. Indeed, a lot of UK cities are pro-remain, versus pro-Brexit rural areas. (Sound familiar?)
That doesn’t mean it’s plain sailing for Remain. The state of the polls point to a knife edge vote, with lots of polls having either side ahead within the margin of error, and using differing methodologies, a level of Don’t Knows big enough to make a difference. (If you want to get in detail about that, I’d recommend reading James Kelly’s blog. For example, you’ll find that polls conducted over the phone tend to be more favourable to Remain.) The polls over the past couple of days appear to show a modest swing to Remain, and the being markets have swung towards Remain, but things are so close, it could be anyone’s guess, particularly given the turnout, which appears to be larger than the general election. (As a comparison, the last referendum, the Scottish IndyRef, got just under 85% turnout.)
Well probably know by about 3-4 am which way the wind’s blowing.
re: #508 FormerDirtDart
Summer temperatures/humidity exacerbate tear gas exposure…
I speak from multiple exposures…
Similar conditions exacerbate pepper spray exposure too, speaking from only one exposure thankfully (training for a job).
I told you there would be MOAR STUPIDS==>
Obama’s going to blame Congressional Republicans for him hating the Constitution and ignoring it.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) June 23, 2016
The best way to fix the lack of due process in the no fly list is to make white male conservatives concerned about being on it.
re: #520 The Vicious Babushka
Obama’s going to blame Congressional Republicans for him hating the Constitution and ignoring it.
again, a matter of RWNJ faith that Obama, a constitutional scholar, both hates and ignores the Constitution.
Pretty sure our plumber’s pro Europe. #Referendum pic.twitter.com/Zn1M96jTDi
— Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) June 23, 2016
re: #522 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Obama’s going to blame Congressional Republicans for him hating the Constitution and ignoring it.
again, a matter of RWNJ faith that Obama, a constitutional scholar, both hates and ignores the Constitution.
He ignores their constitution, the one that keeps them in power.
KENYANS!!!! OBAMA IS AWESOME!!! TROLL LEVEL 100000
re: #520 The Vicious Babushka
I told you there would be MOAR STUPIDS==>
[Embedded content]
Says the guy who loves gay marriage bans. No, Ben, I think Obama’s quite fine with the Constitution. He’s just tired of gun nut assholes using something that was written when the most advanced firemars were muskets to justify the owning of killing machines that can mow down a bunch of people in minutes.
re: #523 Skip Intro
The “crack” and the shirt make for one heck of a unintentionally funny picture.
re: #518 Alephnaught
It’s true that Scotland is heavily pro remain, and apparently recent polls have Northern Ireland pro remain over concerns about border controls with the Republic of Ireland, given that Leave campaigners had been quoted as saying they’re not in favour of the EU’s freedom of movement because immigration. London, which has more votes than Scotland and NI combined, is also speed to be pro-remain. Indeed, a lot of UK cities are pro-remain, versus pro-Brexit rural areas. (Sound familiar?)
That doesn’t mean it’s plain sailing for Remain. The state of the polls point to a knife edge vote, with lots of polls having either side ahead within the margin of error, and using differing methodologies, a level of Don’t Knows big enough to make a difference. (If you want to get in detail about that, I’d recommend reading James Kelly’s blog. For example, you’ll find that polls conducted over the phone tend to be more favourable to Remain.) The polls over the past couple of days appear to show a modest swing to Remain, and the being markets have swung towards Remain, but things are so close, it could be anyone’s guess, particularly given the turnout, which appears to be larger than the general election. (As a comparison, the last referendum, the Scottish IndyRef, got just under 85% turnout.)
Well probably know by about 3-4 am which way the wind’s blowing.
Thanks, do you have any idea about Wales? My cousin and her family live in Cardiff. Wales I think often gets forgotten when Americans think of the UK.
re: #520 The Vicious Babushka
Someday Ben is going to have to try to get a real job. I don’t think his tweets are going to be much help.
re: #529 HappyWarrior
Wales is like the Idaho of the UK. You almost forget it’s there.
re: #517 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Geez, what did they put in Squint’s cornflakes?
Morning Joe hammers GOP’s Tom Cole for his #NoFlyNoBuy excuses: If the watch list is bad — fix it
The thing is Cole and the GOP don’t care about the No Fly List. They want to have all these tough on terrorism measures so they can beat their chests and go we’re tough on terrorism but heaven forbid, guns be regulated.
Records released by Florida wildlife officials say 240 nuisance alligators have been trapped on Walt Disney World property over the past decade.
What would Li’l Whiplash do if Mrs. Whiplash had to go back to Morocco?
It is not “ripping children from their parents’ arms” to deport people here illegally. Families can choose to stay together. Just not here.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) June 23, 2016
re: #529 HappyWarrior
Thanks, do you have any idea about Wales? My cousin and her family live in Cardiff. Wales I think often gets forgotten when Americans think of the UK.
Mostly of the people I know are Doctor Who fans and think Cardiff is near London.
re: #534 The Vicious Babushka
What would Li’l Whiplash do if Mrs. Whiplash had to go back to Morocco?
Baby Ben knows what’s best for these families, and for all of us.
///
re: #531 SoundGuy 2016
Wales is like the Idaho of the UK. You almost forget it’s there.
Ouch. I do remember my other cousin’s husband who is English having a Welsh friend that I met when we went out drinking one night, my cousin’s husband offered me a free shot of my choice if I asked his mate if it was true that Wales was owned by the English. The guy knew immediately who put me up to it. Really nice guy though and took it with a laugh.
re: #521 Belafon
The best way to fix the lack of due process in the no fly list is to make white male conservatives concerned about being on it.
Exactly.
re: #534 The Vicious Babushka
What would Li’l Whiplash do if Mrs. Whiplash had to go back to Morocco?
[Embedded content]
He’s a heartless asshole. Way to go Ben, using the same mentality that sent Holocaust victims back to their deaths.
My profuse apologies if I offended any Idahoan Lizards. All 3 of you.
I’ve been assured my grandmother was Welsh. I’m otherwise euro mutt, or in local vernacular, poi dog
re: #535 Belafon
Mostly of the people I know are Doctor Who fans and think Cardiff is near London.
Honestly for the longest time I couldn’t tell what a Welsh accent sounded like. I could differeniate English and Scottish, English and Northern Irish, but the Welsh accent was a tough one for me. Wasn’t until I read some Shakespeare with a Welsh character that I saw that the Welsh have their own accent. And then my professor pointed me to a neat database of various accents.
re: #541 SoundGuy 2016
I’ve been assured my grandmother was Welsh. I’m otherwise euro mutt, or in local vernacular, poi dog
I probably have very very distant Welsh ancestry. I always heard the Joyce family was Welsh originally but moved to Western Ireland in about the 13th century.
re: #542 HappyWarrior
Honestly for the longest time I couldn’t tell what a Welsh accent sounded like. I could differeniate English and Scottish, English and Northern Irish, but the Welsh accent was a tough one for me. Wasn’t until I read some Shakespeare with a Welsh character that I saw that the Welsh have their own accent. And then my professor pointed me to a neat database of various accents.
I got familiar with it from watching Fireman Sam with my kids
re: #530 Skip Intro
Someday Ben is going to have to try to get a real job. I don’t think his tweets are going to be much help.
I doubt McDonald’s cares.
re: #533 Timothy Watson
Records released by Florida wildlife officials say 240 nuisance alligators have been trapped on Walt Disney World property over the past decade.
Alligators are just living in their natural habitat. Disney is being the damned intrusive species…
re: #494 stpaulbear
I’ll put in a plug for The Family That Plays Together album too. I like it as much (maybe a little more) than Dr. Sardonicus, but that may be because Family was my point of entry for Spirit. I think ‘Aren’t You Glad’ is one of their very best songs.
Definite +1 on that. ‘Aren’t You Glad’ is my favorite song by them, even more so than the singles.
re: #535 Belafon
Mostly of the people I know are Doctor Who fans and think Cardiff is near London.
By American standards, it is almost a suburb…barely 200 miles.
re: #424 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Officer acquitted in killing of Freddie Gray. Oh dear…
As long as a cop does something while in uniform, he is almost certainly going to be acquitted unless you can show actual pictures of…say…rape.
Killing a young black man…no problem at all.
Epic Wonkette takedown is epic:
SAID THE DUDE WHO IS WRITING ANONYMOUSLY ON THE INTERNET ABOUT HOW FEMINISM MAKES HIM SAD, UNDER A PSEUDONYM THAT IS DEFINITELY A “BOY MEETS WORLD” REFERENCE.
You don’t see Corey whinin’ bout how he’s a victim, ‘cept when he’s victimized by lady feminists who fail to appreciate how super cool and awesome he is, and male feminists who would probably not care for him either if they knew who he was. This post-apocalyptic future will be a glorious utopia in which Corey Savage will never again have to deal with the indignity of someone on the internet hurting his feelings.
re: #551 Aunty Entity Dragon
As long as a cop does something while in uniform, he is almost certainly going to be acquitted unless you can show actual pictures of…say…rape.
Killing a young black man…no problem at all.
Sad but true.
Of course, anything more then 3 people who disagree with Rod is a threatening mob in Dreherland, and following the rules is always more important than paying attention to what the rules were about in the first place.
What can’t you see the sign? Whites only!
Only a white idiot wingnut like Rod could accuse John Lewis of leading a mob.
re: #531 SoundGuy 2016
Wales is like the Idaho of the UK. You almost forget it’s there.
Hey! Yeah, I admit we have our share of racist scum bags, but some good comes from here as well.
President Obama signs Trevor’s Law
WASHINGTON, D.C. - A bill inspired by and named after an Idaho man has finally become law. Wednesday, President Barack Obama signed off on Trevor’s Law, a bill that strengthens protections for children and communities from disease clusters.
re: #555 Aunty Entity Dragon
We already had DF telling us that “publicity stunts” like this should not be acknowledged or they will only lead to more such actions.
re: #555 Aunty Entity Dragon
Of course, anything more then 3 people who disagree with Rod is a threatening mob in Dreherland, and following the rules is always more important than paying attention to what the rules were about in the first place.
What can’t you see the sign? Whites only!
Only a white idiot wingnut like Rod could accuse John Lewis of leading a mob.
A sit in is a mob but a bunch of right wing thugs with guns are patriots. Got it, that’s how Dreierland works.
Political stunt you say. This denies Americans their rights because the no fly lists or watch lists somehow violate the 4A you say.
Really? Stunts? Constitutional violations?
Funny, but these same actions weren’t stunts when the GOP did all this and more.
The GOP shut down the government knowing that the President wouldn’t repeal Obamacare.
The GOP carried out 60+ votes to repeal Obamacare for fundraising purposes, knowing that they had no chance of success.
Speaker Ryan is touting vaporware all this week as part of fundraising efforts for the GOP to keep the House even though there’s no bill to mark up or score because the only thing the GOP can agree on is repealing Obamacare - all the notions of what would replace it can’t be agreed upon by the GOP among themselves. That’s a publicity stunt from a political hack.
Yet they complain that the Democrats sitting in at the House is a stunt? Or that they’ll fundraise off it?
Irony and projection so strong IMAX isn’t big enough to cover it.
The Democrats know there’s no chance of passage in the House. That’s almost entirely besides the point - the GOP have the majority and wont act on gun control. This would force them to put their positions on the record officially.
So, it’s yet another reminder that the parties are exactly alike.
Oh, and about those 4A violations and issues with the various lists. Those issues could be fixed. Those problems could be resolved. Congress just wont do it - they’d stick with the mess they’ve got rather than reconcile any of the problems (and the GOP didn’t seem to have a problem with the no fly or watch lists when they proffered them originally and the Democrats issued their concerns).
The GOP would rather everyone ignore the issue of gun violence entirely, because they’ve otherwise been silent on the 4A issues with those lists until they were applied to gun purchases. That once again is key to identifying the hypocrisy.
re: #555 Aunty Entity Dragon
Of course, anything more then 3 people who disagree with Rod is a threatening mob in Dreherland, and following the rules is always more important than paying attention to what the rules were about in the first place.
What can’t you see the sign? Whites only!
Only a white idiot wingnut like Rod could accuse John Lewis of leading a mob.
Maybe the sitin will finally make Dreher go Galt Benedict.
Eleanor Norton just called out my congresscritter for his stupid amendment to invalidate DC gun laws.
re: #561 Backwoods_Sleuth
Eleanor Norton just called out my congresscritter for his stupid amendment to invalidate DC gun laws.
Good, people like Massie don’t know a damn thing about what life in Washington is actually like.
re: #531 SoundGuy 2016
I’ve always liked the map of Wales that the kind of obscure band Man included with their album Be Good To Yourself At Least Once A Day. Some of the jam band fans here would probably like that album a lot. I liked their Slow Motion album, which was both more concise and a bit more twisted.
re: #562 HappyWarrior
Good, people like Massie don’t know a damn thing about what life in Washington is actually like.
She told him to keep his nose in Kentucky.
So my friend is posting Steve Crowder memes blagh criticizing Apple for boycotting the RNC due to Trump’s rhetoric and saying they still do business in the Middle East where gays and women are killed. I don’t dispute that. I hate the business world’s hypocrisy on a lot of things but uh here’s the thing, Trump himself does business in Saudi Arabia.
re: #558 HappyWarrior
A sit in is a mob but a bunch of right wing thugs with guns are patriots. Got it, that’s how Dreierland works.
Rod is the sort of boot kissing toady who is terrified by any resistance to authority.
Even his own fans have noticed this:
John Spragge says:
June 23, 2016 at 5:01 amRod, if you want to foster a counter-cultural Christian community, you will have to prepare to face down authority. No established culture gives up it authority or its members without some resistance, and if the powers of the current culture grasp that you cannot imagine defying authority, then they will show up with authority.
If you actually disagree with the Democrats on the merits, fine. If you believe elected officials in particular have an obligation not to engage in civil disobedience in their capacity as government officials, you may have a case. But you have made so many comments that suggest you reflexively see defiance of any established authority as disgusting and frightening that I seriously wonder how you expect to create a truly counter-cultural community.
re: #433 Nyet
I’ve read something about 10pm (London time?).
That’s when the polls close. The actual counting of the votes will be well into the morning, with the final result called at around 7am local time. However, the result will be called by council areas, so we’ll probably get a good idea how things are going about 3-4 am local time.
There’s apparently not even an exit poll this time. Sky’s go a pseudo exit poll based on previous interviews, so that probably won’t tell us much. The initial councils to declare are mostly from Remain areas, so we won’t get any indication of where things are going until much later in the night.
Imgur
Mmm… getting on towards lunchtime! (serving suggestion)
re: #566 Aunty Entity Dragon
Rod is the sort of boot kissing toady who is terrified by any resistance to authority.
Even his own fans have noticed this:
That’s good to see. Glad to see it’s not a total echo chamber there.
GOP socioeconomic burden shifting in a nutshell: New Jersey Gov. Christie and state GOP.
Demand estate tax repeal in exchange for gas tax hike to fund transportation trust fund properly (ignore the failure to adjust gas tax for inflation since gas tax last raised decades ago, so the gas hike still isn’t nearly what’s needed).
Throw in Christie’s proposal to trash the state education funding formula - instead of giving urban areas additional funding, he’d give a flat dollar amount per student. This would be a huge break to wealthy suburban districts and screw inner cities.
The takeaway? Screw everyone but the rich and well off. Shift the burdens from the rich and those who can afford taxes to everyone else, especially those who can’t.
This is the GOP way.
re: #571 lawhawk
GOP socioeconomic burden shifting in a nutshell: New Jersey Gov. Christie and state GOP.
Demand estate tax repeal in exchange for gas tax hike to fund transportation trust fund properly (ignore the failure to adjust gas tax for inflation since gas tax last raised decades ago, so the gas hike still isn’t nearly what’s needed).
Throw in Christie’s proposal to trash the state education funding formula - instead of giving urban areas additional funding, he’d give a flat dollar amount per student. This would be a huge break to wealthy suburban districts and screw inner cities.
The takeaway? Screw everyone but the rich and well off. Shift the burdens from the rich and those who can afford taxes to everyone else, especially those who can’t.
This is the GOP way.
And Christie is seen as not right wing enough. That really is the core of what the GOP is all about by the way. Screw everyone not rich and well off. Tehy love to talk about how they’re for equality of opportunity and buzz words like that but they ignore that a poor kid from the inner city is at a totally different starting point than a well off kid from the burbs.
re: #566 Aunty Entity Dragon
If you actually disagree with the Democrats on the merits, fine. If you believe elected officials in particular have an obligation not to engage in civil disobedience in their capacity as government officials, you may have a case. But you have made so many comments that suggest you reflexively see defiance of any established authority as disgusting and frightening that I seriously wonder how you expect to create a truly counter-cultural community.
SHUTUP YOU DEMOCRATIC TROLL LIBERAL ATHEIST HATER!!!!!!!1111
Chronicles of Brogressive Sociopathy, Part MMMMCMXCIX:
Wed, 06/22/2016 - 4:07pm — terriertribe
Trump wants to ban Muslims
Hillary wants to bomb them.I think I know the lesser of the two evils here.
re: #566 Aunty Entity Dragon
Rod is the sort of boot kissing toady who is terrified by any resistance to authority.
Even his own fans have noticed this:
Also, too, I thought the RWNJ were all about resisting authority with the mighty gunz!
re: #574 Nyet
Chronicles of Brogressive Sociopathy, Part MMMMCMXCIX:
They do know that Bernie has supported the use of force too right? Honestly, I think Clinton’s hawkishness is way overblown. I won’t lie and say she’s a dove but she’s nowhere near the hawk that these types fantasize she is.
re: #575 Sir John Barron
Also, too, I thought the RWNJ were all about resisting authority with the mighty gunz!
Only when it’s them doing it. Kind of like how you know the Bundys were patriots were pulling out arms on LEO but those protesting police brutality were thugs and not respecting the law. It’s typical conservatism.
re: #572 HappyWarrior
And Christie is seen as not right wing enough. That really is the core of what the GOP is all about by the way. Screw everyone not rich and well off. Tehy love to talk about how they’re for equality of opportunity and buzz words like that but they ignore that a poor kid from the inner city is at a totally different starting point than a well off kid from the burbs.
Oh, they know it, they just don’t give a fuck. If the poor and minorities voted in numbers like old white people do, things would change right quick.
re: #576 HappyWarrior
Yes, they do.
Wed, 06/22/2016 - 9:48pm — dancingrabbit
Sanders pro-war, pro-drone assassinations
foreign policy positions are in direct conflict with the Green Party’s long-held Peace and Non-Violence foreign policy positions.I don’t see his war by proxy - the Saudis “should get their hands dirty” in Syria, he said during the foreign policy debate - as consistent with Green values either.
Sanders would have to change his tune a lot to fit in with the Greens, and, then, as an opportunist flip-flopper, who would value his words?
re: #578 austin_blue
Oh, they know it, they just don’t give a fuck. If the poor and minorities voted in numbers like old white people do, things would change right quick.
Very true. Hopefully that changes this year.
re: #573 Sir John Barron
SHUTUP YOU DEMOCRATIC TROLL LIBERAL ATHEIST HATER!!!!!!!1111
Dreher really, really hates being asked any tough question on Christina apologetics. He breaks out the “trolls will not be tolerated here” line whenever someone hits him with substantive dissent.
His reputation as some sort of intellectual is entirely spurious. He reads things that are deliberately obscure or esoteric, brags about it afterwards and then parrots whatever he read like he has some sort of profound insight.
In other words, he acts like a college sophomore.
re: #579 Nyet
Yes, they do.
Oh these are Greens, I see. Honestly, I think their approach to foreign policy is as dangerous and wreckless as the right’s and you and I both know about their Putin apologia.
Wed, 06/22/2016 - 9:01pm — UnBlinkingEye
Bernie on top of the Green Party ticket
Is my hope. The Democrat Party is corrupt, why support them?If Bernie throws in with Hillary, I’m voting for Trump.
On voting for Stein:
Thu, 06/23/2016 - 9:05am — UnBlinkingEye
If I thought
She had a chance, I might. Don’t really know her. Trump and Bernie have many positions in common. Notably trade and corruption in politics, along with a non-interventionist foreign policy.Hillary is a disgrace.
re: #581 Aunty Entity Dragon
College Freshman.
re: #582 HappyWarrior
They see someone being murdered. Their policy: do nothing. Maybe yell a bit. But best mind your business.
re: #583 Nyet
On voting for Stein:
Stein is a Putin apologizing hypocrite. And LOL at the idea of Trump being tough on corruption and as for trade, all I can say is Pat Buchanan shares a lot of those views on trade too, and the idea of Pat Buchanan having any kind of political power scares me. Already disturbs me that both Nixon and Reagan employed him.
re: #575 Sir John Barron
Also, too, I thought the RWNJ were all about resisting authority with the mighty gunz!
Rod is cool with right wing dissent. He is terrified of the left wing “SJW Black Live Matter mobs” with their nominalist philosophy and brown skin hues coming to nail him to the cross he keeps begging to be nailed to.
re: #585 Nyet
They someone being murdered. Their policy: do nothing. Maybe yell a bit. But best mind your business.
The types that called WWII a Western imperialist war until your country was invaded in 75 years ago yesterday. I’m probably more dovish than I am hawkish broadly speaking but their do nothing approach sickens me as does their reflexative approach to think the US, West, and Israel can do nothing right.
Truck carrying 40,000 lbs of Popeyes biscuits overturns on Highway 59, shutting down the northbound lanes pic.twitter.com/cMOgFJ40Sz
— Janel Forte (@JanelWLOX) June 23, 2016
What’s the status of the biscuits? https://t.co/klwtPPIqRS
— Old Otis (@BlameOtis) June 23, 2016
This may be your friendly hippie neighbor:
Wed, 06/22/2016 - 7:31pm — The Voice In th..
Well, let’s not go off the deep end.
She won’t bomb people because they have brown skins. She won’t kill people just to prove she’s tough.She’ll kill people because there is money or votes in it. She’s a professional killer.
So the idiot in Germany didn’t kill anyone? They refer to his weapon as a “rifle”. Hedging bets here. Probably bolt action with limited round capacity.
*whistles*
re: #589 Franklin
Status of biscuits: smashed but edible.
re: #590 HappyWarrior
Their biscuits are pretty good IMO.
After watching Popeye’s commercials on cable forever, we finally got one at the top of First Hill. Seriously unimpressed.
@popsci We already know that current people stuck in the 1950’s can’t function today, so no.
— Franklin (@franklinftw) June 23, 2016
Oh yeah!
Spotted outside the House floor: Morgan Freeman
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) June 23, 2016
re: #591 Nyet
She’ll kill people because there is money or votes in it. She’s a professional killer.
Oh. OK.
//
re: #594 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
After watching Popeye’s commercials on cable forever, we finally got one at the top of First Hill. Seriously unimpressed.
I like their chicken better than KFC but most fast food is pretty meh to me these days.
re: #589 Franklin
Mmmm, I sure do loves me some biscuits.
I am awaiting the irony of the GOP and the right wing that takes Ted Nugent seriously to tell Morgan Freeman to not butt into politics.
re: #591 Nyet
This may be your friendly hippie neighbor:
Professional killer, wtf is this shit. Sigh, it is good to be reminded that the far left sucks in its own way just as much as the far right.
re: #589 Franklin
It’s been a bad week for bread items on their way to chain restaurants. Earlier this week a Cinnabon truck burst into flames in Ontario.
re: #601 Sir John Barron
Mmmm, I sure do loves me some biscuits.
Ha! Made me think of William “Refrigerator” Perry. His Chicago Bear teammates called him “biscuit” or “biscuit-shy” because he was “one biscuit shy of 350 pounds.”
re: #599 HappyWarrior
I like their chicken better than KFC but most fast food is pretty meh to me these days.
That’s another thing—we also recently got some Long John Silver’s after decades of cable commercials. They’re in the same building as KFC and use the same breading on fish as KFC uses on fried chicken, and that’s just nasty! Are they that way everywhere?
re: #607 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
That’s another thing—we also recently got some Long John Silver’s after decades of cable commercials. They’re in the same building as KFC and use the same breading on fish as KFC uses on fried chicken, and that’s just nasty! Are they that way everywhere?
Honestly, I don’t know. I can’t remember the last time I ate at LJS. Fast food seafood is a dealbreaker for me usually.
re: #608 HappyWarrior
Honestly, I don’t know. I can’t remember the last time I ate at LJS. Fast food seafood is a dealbreaker for me usually.
Skipper’s used to be really good, but then they tried to go national and lost the plot.
re: #606 Barefoot Grin
Ha! Made me think of William “Refrigerator” Perry. His Chicago Bear teammates called him “biscuit” or “biscuit-shy” because he was “one biscuit shy of 350 pounds.”
Ah, man. I just googled. The Refrigerator has diabetes and other health problems and is living in an assisted-care facility. He had to auction off his Super Bowl ring and other stuff. Shame.
re: #603 HappyWarrior
Professional killer, wtf is this shit. Sigh, it is good to be reminded that the far left sucks in its own way just as much as the far right.
circle of derp.
re: #609 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Skipper’s used to be really good, but then they tried to go national and lost the plot.
Never heard of Skippers. Honestly the best seafood I have is homemade. My Nana had a great Crab Imperial recipe that we have every Christmas Eve.
re: #603 HappyWarrior
Professional killer, wtf is this shit. Sigh, it is good to be reminded that the far left sucks in its own way just as much as the far right.
I used to think I was pretty damn liberal. Maybe I still am on some issues, but after encountering the far left I have come to accept that no, I’m really not.
Because there is some element of sanity and recognition that I can’t stomp my food and magically turn the US into a democratic socialist paradise overnight.
Couldn’t be prouder of my former colleagues who continue the fight on the House floor to address our gun violence crisis. #NoBillNoBreak
— Gabrielle Giffords (@GabbyGiffords) June 23, 2016
The sit-in is getting ready to end. John Lewis is now making what appears to be the last speech.
re: #603 HappyWarrior
Professional killer, wtf is this shit. Sigh, it is good to be reminded that the far left sucks in its own way just as much as the far right.
I feel a lot less threatened by professional killers than all the amateurs we’ve got running around….
re: #610 Barefoot Grin
Ah, man. I just googled. The Refrigerator has diabetes and other health problems and is living in an assisted-care facility. He had to auction off his Super Bowl ring and other stuff. Shame.
No! Oh how fucked up.
re: #614 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I used to think I was pretty damn liberal. Maybe I still am on some issues, but after encountering the far left I have come to accept that no, I’m really not.
Because there is some element of sanity and recognition that I can’t stomp my food and magically turn the US into a democratic socialist paradise overnight.
We’re discovering the differences between liberals and leftists.
re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth
[Embedded content]
The sit-in is getting ready to end. John Lewis is now making what appears to be the last speech.
Gabby Giffords, John Lewis, and Morgan Freeman. The GOP? Louie Gohmert.
re: #600 HappyWarrior
It’s over GOP. God is against you now now :).
No offense to Morgan Freeman, but he is a false god. Everyone knows this is the real god
George Burns - The one true GodThe sit-in Democrats are headed outside to meet with the public supporters.
re: #618 HappyWarrior
We’re discovering the differences between liberals and leftists.
Sanity and a grasp of how the world actually works are helpful and a big one.
re: #618 HappyWarrior
We’re discovering the differences between liberals and leftists.
The Shaun King’s of the world hijacked the term “liberal” and perverted it.
BREAKING: Democrats end sit-in over gun control after more than 24 hours on House floor https://t.co/CRj2Vuotr1 pic.twitter.com/ls8mtF1Ix5
— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 23, 2016
After Paul Ryan made a statement about the sit-in:
.@SpeakerRyan: “We are not going to allow stunts like this to stops us from carrying out the people’s business.”https://t.co/jQgSgsc9ON
— CSPAN (@cspan) June 23, 2016
re: #621 Backwoods_Sleuth
The sit-in Democrats are headed outside to meet with the public supporters.
They brought a lot of attention to the problem and garnered public support.
They made their point and nothing else can be accomplished by staying now. But this will not be the end.
Kudos the the Democrats for their stand.
re: #566 Aunty Entity Dragon
Even [Dreher’s] own fans have noticed this:
But you have made so many comments that suggest you reflexively see defiance of any established authority as disgusting and frightening that I seriously wonder how you expect to create a truly counter-cultural community.
Well, from everything of Dreher’s I’ve ever read, the answer to this one is pretty simple: the “counter-cultural community” he wants to create is a community of enforced orthodoxy (or, as it may be, Orthodoxy); i.e., despite the sputtering denials he usually spouts, fundamentally a form of classic clericofascism (or what he imagines pre-Reformation Europe was like): where Church, State, and Society are all parts of a cohesive whole. Said cohesion being rigidly enforced (usually by sword, stake and gallows) by those societal components.
I suppose Dreher would probably claim he’d deal with religious or “moral” unorthodoxy in this ideal community in a “modern” or “civilized” manner: by expulsion rather than execution, say; but the shadow of the Inquisition always seem to lurk..
No point in continuing if everyone else is on vacation.
re: #623 Dr. Matt
The Shaun King’s of the world hijacked the term “liberal” and perverted it.
To me a big part of being a liberal is being open minded. That’s part of the reason why I am definitely not conservative. I’ve looked at the conservative approach to things and realize it just doesn’t work.
re: #626 Backwoods_Sleuth
After Paul Ryan made a statement about the sit-in:
[Embedded content]
Yeah, our politicians shouldn’t be involved in stunts…when is the next vote to repeal Obamacare?
re: #632 Dr. Matt
Yeah, our politicians shouldn’t be involved in stunts…when is the next vote to repeal Obamacare?
That was simply political theater to allow the GOP Congresspeople who all have health insurance tor rage at the President for making health insurance more affordable for everyone.
We may be leaving floor after 25 hours, but #democraticsitin is not ending. We will come back here July 5th more committed than ever to act.
— Rep. Dan Kildee (@RepDanKildee) June 23, 2016
We got in trouble. We got in the way. Good trouble. Necessary Trouble. By sitting-in, we were really standing up. #NoBillNoBreak
— John Lewis (@repjohnlewis) June 23, 2016
re: #626 Backwoods_Sleuth
After Paul Ryan made a statement about the sit-in:
[Embedded content]
He really should talk to his own party about stunts. You know the whole bs ACA repeals and the hold up over Judge Garland’s confirmation. Ryan just can’t get his hands out of the NRA cookie jar because it’s been so good to him. What I wouldn’t give to see him be the first speaker since Foley got down in defeat.
A Trump lawsuit that does not directly involve Donald:
Did Ivanka Trump rip off these shoe designs? Lawsuit alleges so: https://t.co/fAI1V6pyqO pic.twitter.com/a68ZXaoiQ4
— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 23, 2016
re: #630 HappyWarrior
To me a big part of being a liberal is being open minded. That’s part of the reason why I am definitely not conservative. I’ve looked at the conservative approach to things and realize it just doesn’t work.
I’m very socially liberal, and those are the make or break issues for me. Right to marry, right to choose, the ability to live your life without being discriminated against (to the extent that there can be legislative and court relief for those types of things).
I am substantially less anti-corporate than a lot of people on the left. I firmly believe in the need for better regulation and oversight, but I don’t think Wall Street is the be-all-end-all of evil that needs to be destroyed.
I realize that in some people’s eyes, that probably makes me a lousy liberal.
re: #638 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I’m very socially liberal, and those are the make or break issues for me. Right to marry, right to choose, the ability to live your life without being discriminated against (to the extent that there can be legislative and court relief for those types of things).
I am substantially less anti-corporate than a lot of people on the left. I firmly believe in the need for better regulation and oversight, but I don’t think Wall Street is the be-all-end-all of evil that needs to be destroyed.
I realize that in some people’s eyes, that probably makes me a lousy liberal.
I see Wall Street as being needed to be regulated and oversight but I agree, I don’t see them as evil and something that needs to be destroyed. But yes social liberalism is a big part of what makes liberalism work for me.
re: #607 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
That’s another thing—we also recently got some Long John Silver’s after decades of cable commercials. They’re in the same building as KFC and use the same breading on fish as KFC uses on fried chicken, and that’s just nasty! Are they that way everywhere?
I went to one once. Worst tasting fish I ever had. Threw it all away.
Just horrible.
“He’s America’s grandpa.” - professional politics writer and big nerd @jchaltiwanger on @repjohnlewis
— Emily Arata (@aratatweets) June 23, 2016
I still feel young at heart https://t.co/32zeqxGEKh
— John Lewis (@repjohnlewis) June 23, 2016
re: #638 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I am substantially less anti-corporate than a lot of people on the left. I firmly believe in the need for better regulation and oversight, but I don’t think Wall Street is the be-all-end-all of evil that needs to be destroyed.
This makes you a Democrat.
I’m not anti-business. I think not centralizing most economic decisions is a good thing because it can be slow to react, especially in a country of 330M, and there are a lot of decisions that don’t need to be made by one group anyway. But I am for some regulation, and I think there are things that don’t need to be governed by the market, such as education and healthcare.
re: #638 klys (maker of Silmarils)
No. You are just an open minded individual who is trying to find your way through US politics. As I have stated before I am a Republican but I have voted for Democrats quite a few times because they are closer to my views. That is why I said months ago I will uphold the honorable Philadelphia tradition of splitting my ticket in November.
I think quite simply on economics that some things are better federally, some state, some locally, and some individually. I don’t think we need to return to 70% tax brackets on the wealthiest Americans but I do think that a progressive tax structure is more than adequat and that income tax is constitutional as well as legitimate for a country with an economy our size. I also firmly believe that the government that invests in its people is smart govenrment.
re: #632 Dr. Matt
Yeah, our politicians shouldn’t be involved in stunts…when is the next vote to repeal Obamacare?
Right after the next Benghazi hearings.
#BREAKING US jury finds Led Zeppelin’s ‘Stairway to Heaven’ not plagiarized
— AFP news agency (@AFP) June 23, 2016
Why must people like John Lewis be so rare?
A shame I tells you.
Donald Trump Not Prepping For Debates, Will Just Be Himself. Clinton Campaign OK With That
Read more at wonkette.com
re: #649 Skip Intro
So he will be flying by the seat of pants. Interesting.
re: #647 Backwoods_Sleuth
[Embedded content]
Los Angeles jury decides the band Led Zeppelin did not steal opening to its classic anthem ‘Stairway to Heaven.’ https://t.co/dvyFUyP3vd
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 23, 2016
re: #647 Backwoods_Sleuth
[Embedded content]
I read this morning that Robert Plant testified he could not remember the 60’s.
heh
re: #650 PhillyPretzel
So he will be flying by the seat of pants. Interesting.
He has all the best answers, real bigly answers. Everybody says so.
re: #642 Belafon
This makes you a Democrat.
I’m not anti-business. I think not centralizing most economic decisions is a good thing because it can be slow to react, especially in a country of 330M, and there are a lot of decisions that don’t need to be made by one group anyway. But I am for some regulation, and I think there are things that don’t need to be governed by the market, such as education and healthcare.
I’d like to see a more robust safety net, better access for education (and better funding for it across the board, to bring poorer areas up to the standards that richer areas take for granted), and healthcare treated as a right. I don’t mind paying more in taxes to achieve those things.
I’d also like to see our armed forces become more efficient and waste less, but I realize that our role in the world does require a certain commitment there and so it’s not going to be feasible to completely cut it off. I’d like to see more of what we’re spending there be to support the troops and our returning veterans, because the people are the most valuable investment we could make.
I want to see more funding for things like basic scientific research, a resurgence in our space program, a move away from the culture of anti-intellectualism.
And while I’m at it, one unicorn, please.
/sigh
re: #647 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’ve listened to the two a lot. Back to back. I just can’t hear anything that would lead me to believe LZ stole anything. Ok. So they both used guitar.
re: #650 PhillyPretzel
From the article:
“Don’t misquote me. I never said anything about leaving the North American Tit Oglers. It’s a fine organization and I’m proud to be a member.”
re: #649 Skip Intro
Donald Trump Not Prepping For Debates, Will Just Be Himself. Clinton Campaign OK With That
Read more at wonkette.com
So, if that’s true (and I seriously doubt it), then Trump’s statements/responses will be *bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
Wonder how Iceweasel and her hubby feel about the Brexit vote?
re: #649 Skip Intro
Donald Trump Not Prepping For Debates, Will Just Be Himself. Clinton Campaign OK With That
Read more at wonkette.com
My only question is who the hell is going to play Trump when Clinton prepares to debate him? There really isn’t anyone like him.
re: #626 Backwoods_Sleuth
@cspan @SpeakerRyan Like holding the 60 somethingth vote to repeal Obamacare and take away insurance from millions of Americans?
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) June 23, 2016
re: #648 Eclectic Cyborg
Why must people like John Lewis be so rare?
A shame I tells you.
There used to be more of them, but they got shot.
(sadly, no snark tags for this one)
re: #657 lawhawk
So, if that’s true (and I seriously doubt it), then Trump’s statements/responses will be *bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
At least the bullshit Romney could spew was done in a statesmanly like manner. I jest obviously.
re: #659 HappyWarrior
I hear John Barron is looking for work.
re: #660 MsJ
[Embedded content]
Now that was different. The GOP had to be able to rage against President Obama for giving millions of Americans what the GOP Congresscritters have.
re: #659 HappyWarrior
My only question is who the hell is going to play Trump when Clinton prepares to debate him? There really isn’t anyone like him.
Tommy Flanagan (Jon Lovitz)…
re: #663 GlutenFreeJesus
I hear John Barron is looking for work.
Ha! Seriously though, it’s going to be funny to see Trump become unhinged when he actually has to debate someone who isn’t a right wing hack and the audience isn’t just right wing morons.
Texas Can’t Even Give Prisoners Delicious Arsenic Water Anymore Thanks To Activist Judge
Wimps!
Read more at wonkette.com
re: #661 sagehen
There used to be more of them, but they got shot.
(sadly, no snark tags for this one)
Very true. Definitely hits you where it hurts.
re: #665 Backwoods_Sleuth
Tommy Flanagan (Jon Lovitz)…
Showing my age here but was that one of his SNL characters? Give me some credit for at least knowing who Jon is.
re: #667 Skip Intro
Texas Can’t Even Give Prisoners Delicious Arsenic Water Anymore Thanks To Activist Judge
Wimps!
Read more at wonkette.com
I love her snark.
re: #657 lawhawk
So, if that’s true (and I seriously doubt it), then Trump’s statements/responses will be *bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
*bullshit* *cough* *bullshit* *bullshit*
Can you imagine Trump trying to roll over Hillary the way he did the other GOPers? Oh man. Women will hate him. And Clinton will destroy him.
Honestly…delicious.
re: #635 Backwoods_Sleuth
So Paul Ryan might want to hold onto his clutching pearls and fainting couch.
re: #666 HappyWarrior
Have we seen Trump’s terms for a “fair to him” debate yet? That ought to be good for some laughs.
re: #669 HappyWarrior
Showing my age here but was that one of his SNL characters? Give me some credit for at least knowing who Jon is.
Yep. Tommy Flanagan, Pathological Liar
re: #671 MsJ
Can you imagine Trump trying to roll over Hillary the way he did the other GOPers? Oh man. Women will hate him. And Clinton will destroy him.
Honestly…delicious.
I expect it will happen. Trump’s shown that he doesn’t know how to change his style of being a dick.
re: #673 Skip Intro
Have we seen Trump’s terms for a “fair to him” debate yet? That ought to be good for some laughs.
Not to my knowledge. I just saw something on FB that suggests he’s seriously considering Palin for his VP. Oh man that will be too funny.
re: #677 HappyWarrior
Two word salad politicians. You are correct. Very funny.
re: #644 HappyWarrior
He’s a hero.
But, don’t you know he learned everything he knows about protesting from Bernie?
Not enough //////////// in the world.
(Berners on kos actually have said things like—yeah, but John Lewis wasn’t in Chicago when Bernie was leading the civil rights fights there, and—this one is—well, I don’t even have words to describe it:
I’m just having a problem getting past John Lewis’ desperate dismissal of Sanders actual civil rights activism, on behalf of the clintons. That was truly pitiful, that position, Lewis found himself in — no true hero should ever be that beholden to the royal family
and this one:
There was no (legitimate) excuse for Lewis’ remarks concerning Bernie’s activism; that had everything but the Clinton casino logo on a chip being called in.
re: #677 HappyWarrior
Not to my knowledge. I just saw something on FB that suggests he’s seriously considering Palin for his VP. Oh man that will be too funny.
Palin losing Veep twice. Imagine the hatred overload. OMG. I would almost love to see that. Almost.
re: #679 BeachDem
But, don’t you know he learned everything he knows about protesting from Bernie?
Not enough //////////// in the world.(Berners on kos actually have said things like—yeah, but John Lewis wasn’t in Chicago when Bernie was leading the civil rights fights there, and—this one is—well, I don’t even have words to describe it:
and this one:
Good god. Talk about lunatic fringe.
re: #659 HappyWarrior
My only question is who the hell is going to play Trump when Clinton prepares to debate him? There really isn’t anyone like him.
But Trump is nothing if not predictable.
re: #637 Backwoods_Sleuth
A Trump lawsuit that does not directly involve Donald:
[Embedded content]
I wonder where she has them made?
Oh, and hello all!
re: #683 lizardofid
I wonder where she has them made?
Oh, and hello all!
Hiya.
Can I go out on a limb and guess China since that is where her recently recalled scarves are made.
On Wednesday, the Consumer Product Safety Commission announced it was recalling 20,000 scarves made by Ms Trump’s fashion line Ivanka Trump because they did not meet the federal flammability standards for clothing in the US and posed “a burn risk” for the people wearing them.
re: #684 MsJ
Hiya.
Can I go out on a limb and guess China since that is where her recently recalled scarves are made.
Yup. As is most of the Trump crap.
“Of the 838 Ivanka products advertised through the site, none appear to be made exclusively in the U.S.; 628 are said to be imported and 354 made specifically in China,” Lawrence, who formerly served as a member of President Clinton’s Council of Economic Advisers, writes in a column revealing his findings published on PBS.
re: #640 Skip Intro
I went to one once. Worst tasting fish I ever had. Threw it all away.
Just horrible.
Gosh! Ours is one of the best fast food places around here. They certainly don’t use anything like KFC breading. ??
re: #581 Aunty Entity Dragon
Dreher really, really hates being asked any tough question on Christina apologetics. He breaks out the “trolls will not be tolerated here” line whenever someone hits him with substantive dissent.
His reputation as some sort of intellectual is entirely spurious. He reads things that are deliberately obscure or esoteric, brags about it afterwards and then parrots whatever he read like he has some sort of profound insight.
In other words, he acts like a college sophomore.
Dreher’s $10 vocabulary words and pseudo-intellectual veneer of pretending to engage in philosophy do not alter the essential nature of his project. His utopia is the fervent belief of an illiterate medieval peasant in whatever the village priest tells him is God’s word.
Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory Just Captured Ominous Signals About the Planet’s Health Hawaii’s Mauna Loa Observatory just captured an ominous sign about the pace of global warming. Atmospheric levels of planet-warming carbon dioxide aren’t just on their way to yet another record high this year - they’re rising faster than ever, ...
Cheechako
The Good Liars at the Schnecksville Trump Rally [VIDEO] New theories, great tunes and SHOCKING breaking news. SUPPORT US: http://Herohero.co/thegoodliars SEE THE GOOD LIARS LIVE!WASHINGTON D.C. MAY 23RD: https://www.unionstage.com/shows/good-liars-fix-america/NASHVILLE, TN JUNE 6TH: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/42992972/the-good-liars-nashville-the-lab-at-zaniesSAN FRANCISCO, CA JUNE 25TH: https://www.livenation.com/event/G5vYZbavGvggG/the-good-liars SUBSCRIBE TO OUR AUDIO PODCAST:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-liars-tell-the-truth/id1731178442Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7mgfiwzr32907N4y68eFOCJoin this channel ...
teleskiguy
Trump’s “Stolen Election” Lie Based on Evidence From Pervy Bathroom Cam-Spy OK, this really takes the cake. If you have relatives that still cling to the “election was stolen, dadgum, I jes’ KNOW IT … This should be a slight remedy to the stubborn madness Thanks to online anonymity, the ...
Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
William Lewis
Gateway Pundit, Sued by Election Workers, Declares BankruptcyA onetime favorite, now just pathetic figure around these parts, Jim Hoft aka SMOTI ("Stupidest Man On The Internet"), has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in response to the defamation lawsuits filed against him to the same election workers that ... Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Harper’s Magazine: Slippery Slope - How Private Equity Shapes a Ski Town …Big Sky stands apart for other reasons. The obvious distinction is the Yellowstone Club, a private resort hidden in the mountains above the community that Justin Farrell, a professor of sociology at Yale and the author of Billionaire Wilderness, ... teleskiguy
